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From:Neil Bothwick
Date:13 Oct 99 at 23:12:57
Subject:Re: Communication, ain't we got fun? was; Re: Cover CD

From: "Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>

Rich Holtzschue said,

NB>> From: "Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>

NB>> RH> I take it you know how much breakage occurred this last
NB>> RH> mailing?

NB>> No, because there were no jewel cases to break. ...

> nnNNNNGGGG! Why do I always have this prob? :^) I KNOW there are no
> jewel cases to break. Do you ever get any CDs broken?

I doubt it, the things are almost unbreakable. It's certainly beyond the
Post Office's capabilities, you need the skilled services of Securicor
to break a CD.

> I saw one mag cover
> CD that got crunched once. It looked like the corner of something hit the CD.

Which sounds like a very rare occurrence. The total cost of sending a
replacement to the subscriber would be about 50p.

NB>> ... However, The vast
NB>> majority of magazines are sold via newsagents, so any increased
NB>> expenditure on cases there would be pointless, there's no postman to
NB>> break them. ...

> Just freight handlers and delivery/distribution ppl. ;^) Yah, I
> understand. Since they are bulk packed in boxes then they have some added
> protection. Plus there would be less individual handling and thus
> opportunity for damage.

Exactly. Jewel cases actually *cause* damage, they can tear the magazine
cover as people remove them from the shelf and replace them.

NB>> ... More important is the potential damage to the magazine from
NB>> the case.

> Hmm, really? Hadn't thought of that. The relatively sharp corners on
> the case would present more chances of damage to the mag cover.

It's more the bulk and the weight of the things, and the way they can
catch.

NB>>> I'd rather spend any extra revenue on the contents of the CD, rather
NB>>> than its wrapper.

NB>> RH> Might get a debate from some ppl on this. Since this is a
NB>> RH> subjective preference I'm sure there will be some that might go for
NB>> RH> it. Since the mag could buy them in bulk they would be somewhat
NB>> RH> cheaper than if you ran out and bought a single on your own.

NB>> The cost of the case is minimal. ...

> Regular jewel cases maybe. Even they aren't all that cheap if you
> just
> buy them one at a time. IIRC, a 3 pack is anywhere from 3 to 5 US bux 'round
> here. Now it I go to the local computer flea market on the 4th Sat of each
> month then I can buy them in bulk. This would save me mucho mulla as they
> would range from 30 to 50 US cents each. Now if I could buy them in lots of
> 1K I suspect they would be cheaper yet.

That's my point. it's the associated costs that add up, the actual cases
are extremely cheap.

> I really don't think that regular jewel cases would be cost effective
> tho in this case (no pun intended). As stated here (by you?) they break
> entirely too easy. I am constantly replacing jewel cases and have a stack of
> jewel case parts for just this purpose. I'm slowly replacing them with the
> Strongarm cases so I don't ever have to mess with'em again.

I threw 200 perfect cases away earlier this year, they were getting in
the way (I store CDs without the cases).

> I would think that, right now, your ratio of number sent bulk to sent
> individually is rather high. Since the mag just started it will be awhile b4
> subbed numbers even approach bulk numbers. If subbed numbers are ever equal
> to or are greater than bulk then you might see a significant increase in
> damaged CDs.

I doubt it.

NB>> RH> the possible cfgations would have been putting the CD inside the
NB>> RH> mag for additional protection.

NB>> That's normal practice for postal subscriptions with jewel cased CDs.

> Really? Didn't know this. CU never reassorted to this. Off hand, I
> don't recall any mag doing this.

CU *did* do this.

Neil



Neil Bothwick - New Media Editor, Amiga Active Magazine
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