@BEGIN_FILE_ID.DIZ Details on Footage of the Roswell Autopsy [ 09-Jul-95 ] [ mIC fLAiR/oGN uFO tEAM!'95 ] @END_FILE_ID.DIZ [100545,3262] mick sparham FOOTAGE.TXT Text, Bytes: 10193, Count: 250, 09-Jul-95 Title : footage.txt Keywords: ROSWELL SANTILLI AUTOPSY This file was originally posted in Newbage Forum (Communion(UFO)) as R.TXT. this is the 2nd June updated version. Posted by request. Uploaded by the Author, may be copied freely. This file was originally uploaded as "R.TXT" (no, it's not a story about painters and decorators) in Newbage (Communion(UFO)) Forum, on 6th May '95 without the update. I added the update on 2nd June when I sent the file to a friend in Washington. I upload here in Encounters(MUFON) at the request of Gordon DeSpain, who doesn't want to go hunting for it in Newbage, on 9th July, so it's already history. Mick. ================================================================= = Mike Sparham. Compuserve 100545,3262. 06 MAY 1995 THIS FILE MAY BE FREELY COPIED AND DISTRIBUTED IN ANY FORM. Many people by now have heard of the film of the Roswell crash in 1947, which is in the hands of Ray Santilli, who is allegedly making a documentary on the subject to be screened by the BBC sometime in August. I was invited by Ray to view this film in a private viewing on 5th. May '95 at the Museum of London. I was present among a large number of people, many from USA, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and UK, including reporters and many (I believe) experts in this field. I do know that BBC Radio 4 did broadcast something about this film at around 3pm that afternoon, but I did not hear that broadcast as I was driving home at the time. I will call them after the bank holiday. This file details MY IMPRESSIONS of that film. As I am not medically trained, you will have to excuse any mistakes I make with naming bodily organs and structures. I was told that the film was a total of 91 minutes in duration, and was taken by a military cameraman sent from Washington to Roswell to record the cleanup of the site, and the autopsy of the recovered "Aliens". I was also led to believe that the film was of excellent quality, and professionally done. We were only shown approx. 20 minutes of the film, taken inside a small room. There was a large glass window on one side of the room, a telephone was on the wall next to this window, and a clock was on another wall adjacent to this wall. In the middle of the room was a large table on which was the body of the "alien". Two people, who I will refer to as pathologists, were inside the room performing the autopsy, wearing white whole body suits with round flat topped headgear, with a clear plastic or perspex type front. Although it is difficult to judge size from the angle of the camera, I estimate the size of the "alien" to be around 4-4.5 feet. It had 6 digits on each hand, 5 long fingers and a thumb, and 6 digits on the feet (see notes). The bone structure of the feet and ankles seemed to be very much like human feet. The abdomen was very large, much like you see in malnourished children. The cranium was larger in proportion to the body than a human cranium, with small ears, small nose, small mouth and small chin. It had large deepset black eyes which seemed to slant upwards toward the outside of the face. There were no external sexual organs, although it looked to me to have a slit similar to a female vaginal opening. I saw no evidence of any facial or bodily hair. The pathologist made an incision down the length of the body through the skin to expose the internal organs. The body looked to have a sternum but I saw no evidence of a ribcage. Various internal organs, unrecognisable to me, were cut and removed from the body cavity and placed in what looked like porcelain bowls. The pathologist used tweezers or forceps to remove a thin layer of black "skin" from both eyes, exposing large white eyeballs. He then made an incision round the cranium and peeled back the skin to expose the skull, which he cut open using a Fret-saw (I don't know the american name for this tool) and removed to expose the brain. The brain itself was removed in pieces, so it was very difficult to estimate the size of the whole organ. During this operation the cameraman continually moved around the body, often getting in the way of the pathologist, who at one stage seemed to be annoyed by the cameraman. The second pathologist present was seen to be taking various notes throughout the operation. notes: The cameraman taking the film was continually moving during the operation. He seemed unaware of the need to refocus the camera, so whenever he moved forward for a closer look the picture was always out of focus, making it very difficult to see the finer details of the bodily part he was trying to get a closer look at. At one stage I thought I saw a sixth toe, like a vestigial small toe, but another look later was difficult to judge due to shadow and the lack of focus. This was continued throughout the whole of the section of film we saw. It would be nice to know the make and model of the camera used. Simon Fitzpatrick, a British filmaker present at the viewing, commented on the amateurishness of the cameraman. (see update: 2nd June 1995 at end of report) I heard many comments about the clock on the back wall of the room. Many people thought it did not look like a period clock, I get the impression they thought it was too modern to be a forties clock. (see update) Some people also thought the telephone was too modern. The main point of contention was the "curly chord" from the handset to the main body of the telephone. I also had my doubts about the phone, and I will contact "Ma-Bell" soon to try to get more info on phones in use during this period. (see update) Many comments were passed about why we only saw the film from this room, what about the film of the recovered vehicle itself. This other footage might have given more autheticity to the film, but at the moment we just don't know. Before the film started I spoke briefly with Ray Santilli, who promised to talk more after the film. The last I saw of Ray was as he climbed some stairs up to the projector area, and after the film I couldn't find him. I caught one of his secretaries, but she said she "had to go". I asked various people around me if they had seen or spoken to Ray, but I got various comments like "He's done a runner," and "He is holed up with some people talking money". I am limited in my search capabilities as I am confined to a wheelchair. I will phone his office after the bank holiday. Over the next few days I will also try to speak to more of the people who were present at the film and try to get some reports from them. They include Dan Silver of "Value Added Talent", London, who was there representing Stanton Friedman, a noted Nuclear Physicist and lecturer, and Matthew Williams of "Truth Seekers Review". As I get more information I will post them on compuserve. I also have two articles by Stanton Friedman called "Challenge to Ray Santilli" and "The Cosmic Watergate", which I will post as soon as I have copied them. I am interested in any reports written about this film, to compare with my own, and any help that could be given to this end will be greatly appreciated, along with any comments or questions anybody would care to make. Mike Sparham Compuserve: 100545,3262. E-mail: 100545.3262@compuserve.com Update: 2nd. June 1995 Re: Lack of focus/unprofessionalism. I have recently had many talks with Ray Santilli, and he tells me that he asked the military cameraman who originally took the film about the lack of focus. He explained that, like the surgeons performing the autopsy, he too was wearing the white all body suit with the headgear, which was quite heavy and hot inside, in temperatures of 90+ degrees, with limited movement and control, and after the two hour operation he was very exhausted, as were the surgeons, suffering from the excess heat, and very close to collapse. During my time in the British Army I too have gone through a similar experience. All military personel have to go through thorough training to survive in Nuclear, Biological and Chemical warfare. This involves wearing NBC suits and Gasmasks to protect you and (hopefully) isolate you from external dangers. The equipment we were wearing was very awkward to work in, the gloves we wore made it very difficult to operate anything with accuracy, and were certainly extremely uncomfortable to wear for long periods, especially in hot conditions. Firing a rifle accurately under these conditions was extremely difficult. (I do have some endearing memories of spending hours in an NBC suit while on manoeuvres in Germany, digging holes in the ground to do my toilets, and the extreme difficulty of removing enough of this clothing to perform my toilets. This is of course impossible to do if any "Nerve-agents" are around, as the exposure of any bare skin could easily result in death.) I can easily understand the problems the cameraman had in 1947, and I would imagine that the suits worn on the section of film I saw were probably more awkward and heavier than the modern military equipment I was issued. Re: Clock and Telephone. Ray Santilli assures me he has looked into this very deeply himself, the clock does conform with styles available at the time. The telephone was one of a range available, all with curly cords, in the mid 40's. Philip Mantle (BUFORA) has been told that curled cables in use for telephones as early as the 40's were found in a book. I still have not seen any documentary proof of this, and I am still chasing this info. As for Ray Santilli's whereabouts after the film, I left the theatre with a mass of people and went into the reception area to wait for him. As I am in a wheelchair, I could not see past the mass of people I was surrounded by, and Ray was at the back of the theatre, up many steps, surrounded by various Ufologist's and media people. He could easily have gone past me without my even noticing it in the reception area, perhaps while I was getting a glass of wine or a sandwich! It is very difficult manoeuvering a wheelchair and impossible to keep my eye on the doorway in the corner of the room in a crowd of people . Mike Sparham. 02 June 1995.