This is another one :- 

http://x28.deja.com/=yahoo/getdoc.xp?AN=562514694.4&CONTEXT=946746741.1
114177539&hitnum=11
 

Thanks Philip, I'm doing some searching on Amino and so far it sounds
good.

"philip cosby, editor of amiga flame" <phili-@amigaflame.demon.co.uk>
wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41125
> Hello, its Philip of Amiga Flame
> 
> >I think this is a sad day , Gateway selling the Amiga...!
> 
> I think the sad day was when Gateway got rid of Jim Collas.  It
seemed clear
> to me then, that Gateway lacked any type of vision or understanding
of the
> potential of Amiga technology.
> 
> >brief statement from gateway...
> >>The company elected to sell the Amiga name after deciding to wrap
> >Amiga's >software engineering function into Gateway's product
> >development systems.
> >>"Under Gateway's wing, Amiga morphed into a software development
> >company >working on a new Internet appliance operating environment
> >software. 
> >>Now that we're bringing that development into work into Gateway
> >product >development, it made sense to find a buyer for Amiga.
> >
> >Basically they used the Amiga for what they wanted to make their
> >internet box and then throw the rest away.. 
> >I don't know about you guys but who the hell are "Amino"?
> 
> It really wasn't suppose to work out this way, Amino Development was
in the
> new year, I think on the 3rd, to announce the buyout and then tell us
about
> the new direction for the Amiga computer.  However, Gateway seemed to
have
> let things slip, and now people are jumping the gun, wondering what
the hell
> is going on? who are Amino Development? and what are their plans for
the Amiga?
> 
> The positive news is that Bill McEwen and Fleecy Moss, ex-employees
of Amiga
> are involved, with some suggestions that Petro may also be in on the
act.
> These are people I think we can trust, but we must wait a while
longer to
> find out what they have in store for the Amiga.
> 
> Till then, wait and see.
> 
> Amiga Flame    / For Latest Amiga News             Game Reviews
> ^^^^^^^^^^^   /      Future Game Releases          Games Developers
>   Victory    /	     Future CD-Rom Game Releases   Web Links
>     To      /        Latest Game Releases          Past Games Of
1996/97
>    The     /         Demo Of The Month             
>   Amiga   /           
> New UK Base Site - http://www.amigaflame.co.uk
> US Mirror - http://www.geocities.com/~amigaflame/
> Italian Mirror - http://www.abol.it/tekne/amiflame
> Russian Mirror - http://amigaworld.cch.pmc.ru/mirror/www.amigaflame.c
o.uk/
> 

just incase the link is down, a small snippet:-

But you are defining Amiga in a different manner to them, so of
course they will be different. The glory of such a generic vision as
"a better way" is that it can mean anything you want it to - welcome
to corporate marketing and PR ;-)

 I have said from the start that AmigaObjects won't be a revolution.
Several companies are working on similar concepts, HAVi, Jini, Rebol,
NextObjects, Inferno, Elate, to name just a few. No one has a full
architecture working properly at the moment but that is not through
want of trying.


* As for networking and communicating computers and appliances (simply
different contexts) over the network, there is IMHO a much better
solution already available and is by many considered truly innovative,
if not revolutionary. I'm speaking about REBOL...

 Couldn't agree more.


* Just a few days after the early September earthquakes in Amiga, Inc.
a group of Amigans, you including, came with a plan, how to finally
put the destiny of Amiga in the hands of the community. Could you
please describe how and when did this plan come to life, who was the
initiator, who participates in this and what are the relationships
between the participating subjects? Many Amigans see this blurly, as
"just another effort" or as an immediate reaction to Amiga, Inc.
happenings, maybe stimulated by the sacking of your friend and the
last Amiga enthusiast there, Bill McEwen.

 Okay - things are mixed up here. The group of which you speak is
called Phoenix, and is a developers and notables organisation. Amino
is a member of it, but we are not a driving force within it. Others
are organising and pushing it forwards.


* A part of the plan is your and Bill's new company called Amino. How
is Amino organized, is it already an officially registred company?
Long-time Amiga evangelist, Giorgio Gomelsky, who participated in all
the initiatives promoting the idea of independence from mother
companies (the first one was IAS, in 1994) supports and puts forth
non-traditional models of managing a company. Is Amino going this
inclusive model of business which supports active participation of the
community?

 Amino is a company formed by Bill and I to take all the plans that we
formulated whilst at Amiga Inc, but which were never used by them, and
provide for a complete digital convergence solution. Part of that is
the development of a leading edge platform that we hope will inherit
and carry forwards the ideals of the classic Amiga computer and
community.

 We recognise that a community is a huge asset to any platform, and
that the company/customer model is unable to take advantage of that
asset. However, developing a platform and a product line is a costly
proposition, and raising the sort of capital required to do it
successfully is better suited to a traditional model. For Amino, we
want the best of both worlds. To do this, we intend to offer as much
of the company as possible to the community. By having a stake in the
company, and hopefully a controlling stake, then we will see the
synergy of a community based structure maximised whilst protecting the
platform from the usual business dangers of takeover, bankruptcy and
market before morals.


* Amino needs capital, as each and every startup. Are you going the
path of venture capital to raise the funds and do you have some
investors already? Isn't it rather risky plan?

 Yes we do, and no it isn't. Risk is inherent in everything.


* Recently, IBM started to provide complete CHRP designs freely and
Motorola presented the PowerPC roadmap covering G4, G5, G6 and G7
processors... How does the business plan of Amino relate to the
longer-term plan of Phoenix to set up a new platform, and what is the
position of Amino in this?

 A HW reference group has been formed within Phoenix and we are
participating in it. Part of our distributed strategy is that we will
concentrate only on the SW, and let the HW partners concentrate on the
HW so that we can all work towards our own goals whilst benefiting
from a common approach.


"erol ismael" <eismae-@netscape.net> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41127
> This is another one :- 
> 
> http://x28.deja.com/=yahoo/getdoc.xp?AN=562514694.4&CONTEXT=946746741
.1
> 114177539&hitnum=11
>  
> 

Sandy Brownlee said something about [afb] Keep clear, I've had an idea!

> Just thought, that bit on afb in AF is supposed to encourage new members.

> Why not make it into a summary of the most popular threads, so ppl can see
> what they're missing?

You really think that would encourage new members? ;)

BTW Ben allows us to submit 500 words for use as the AFB blurb, so why
not give it a go?

All the best </Ben> :)
-- 
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>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

On 31-Dec-99, Andy Kinsella wrote:

> The cheapest I could find around town was 2 quid each in packs of 8,
> or 16 quid for a pack of 8, if you like :)

the best I've seen is 10 flourescent ones for 20. Or maybe better is the
new Sony ones which are 80 minutes long, and about the same price for a
pack of 12 IIRC.... forward any good bargains here

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

A gentleman can disagree without being disagreeable.

Hi

agggh!, the little people in my head wont leave me alone :/ stop playing the
goddam steel drums up there! :P

;)

Mash
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Blondes and Beerbottles:  both empty from the neck up.

Hi

WTF is going on! I goto cucug to find its shut down forever!, why?, no
warning? no I see ammiga has been sold (something for af to write about at
least) jeeeez, some 2K present this is turning out to be :(

I s'pose Eric Schwartz is dead, Collas is a tranny Ben vost is in a coma
..... :p

Mash
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It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a.

On 31-Dec-99 14:10:23 GMT, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

>> Is anybody using Barclay's online banking service with an Amiga
>> browser?
>> 
>> It's not working properly with IB2, and I'm trying to determine if it
>> is a bug in IB2 or a problem with the site.  So, any AWeb and/or V3
>> users who find that the site works just fine for them, please let me
>> know.

> IBrowse doesn't have as good security features as Voyager, AFAIK.
>
> Maybe that's your prob?

Nope, I shouldn't think so - I'm using MiamiSSL.  Besides, somebody said
that that Voyager complains about unsupported encryption of something,
whereas IB is ok with that particular area.

The problem is that after I login, when I click links to get more info
on my account, it just goes to the front page instead (the sign-up
process went without a hitch).  I have a feeling it is a cookie problem
or some other simple bug in IB.  BTW, I'm an IB beta tester, so all I
was really looking for here was whether the site worked in other Amiga
browsers :)

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<tsb>

On 31-Dec-99 23:30:54 GMT, Ken Walsh wrote:

>> Is anybody using Barclay's online banking service with an Amiga
>> browser?
>> 
>> It's not working properly with IB2, and I'm trying to determine if it
>> is a bug in IB2 or a problem with the site.  So, any AWeb and/or V3
>> users who find that the site works just fine for them, please let me
>> know.

> I was on about this about a year ago, I tried but cannot get it as well.
> I joined there service (barclays online) and was emailing them about it.
> But unless you have a Mac or Microsoft machine, no chance so cancel your
> account (web account) unless you have these machines.

They changed it quite recently though, I think - the site used to be
heavily dependent on javascript (and java?) and IE or NSN.  Now the site
is much more steamlined and not so browser dependent - enough for all
Amiga browsers to work with it, in theory ;)  I could never get past
the sign-up procedure before, but since the new site appeared, IB gets
through it without a hitch.  Looks like AWeb is the only Amiga browser
that can handle the site at the moment :(

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<tsb>

Just when on to www.cucug.org/amiga.html to see if my request for a
link had been processed and was greeted with the following message..

CUCUG has retired Amiga Web Directory..

Check it out for youself..

http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html
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> Hello,

> Now, after all my indecision, I'm going for a PPC and BlizzardVision.

> Now I would like a really cheap, high resolution, crisp displaying, lar=
ge,
> high refresh- capable monitor.

> (Don't we all)

> Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?

> Regards,

>        Sandy Brownlee

depends on where you live.....

There's a place in Sheffield which build up PeeCees and last time I was
their they had tons of old and new monitors. I bought ages ago a 15" AST
vision 5L for =A340 I think.  Not brilliant but  quite sharp @ 1024x768 w=
ith
the PIV

I will remember their name in a minute

Regards

Darren=

p>  I would like to take this time to wish everybody on this eGroup a very
p> happy new year for the year 2000 and lets see if we can all keep the
p> amiga alive through out the next millennium and possibly even longer than
p> that so don't buy a PC buy and amiga

Uhh...why is it that those foolish people who leave Amiga always seem to
leave for PC, probably the worst platform ever, when there are Macs out
there that operate nice and friendly [albeit with no DOS shell and only one
mouse button], and best of all don't need Microsoft to run the computers?

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Okay, here's a suggestion....

Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD? Perhaps we can all
"donate" a small section of personal web space for a certain category, like
dealers,or mags, hardware tip links, etc.?? I have a coupla megs to
spare....

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Ben,
Is there a problem with the above disc? Why I ask is because when I
try to  get to a game on that disc it refuses to load.The game in
question is "connect4" on cover disc132b.Under the "MrE" heading.
what happens is, when ever I click on it, the whole screen jumps,and
the mouse pointer jumps to the top of the screen,and that's it no
program.There seems to be no way to get to it.All the other games play.
Any pointers?
Primo.
primo@busancano.prestel.co.uk   1/1/2000

http://www.amino1.net/

no info yet

Hello Sandy

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?

Try a PC computer fair where you can pick up at least a 15 incher for about
60 notes. My NEC Multisync XV15+ was about that and it is a bloody good
monitor too.

Come to think of it the 17 inchers are coming down a lot.

Oh and one other thing they are "reconditioned" which usually means second
hand or shop soiled but as long as the tube is fine you'll be alright
 

See Ya Later
-- 
Wesley Potter
Web: http://come.to/amigaworkshop
ICQ: 34306277

Hello Ant

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

> Hey, did anyone know this?

> "01 Jan 2000 - CUCUG Retires Amiga Web Directory - The
> Amiga Web Directory was retired on January 1, 2000.
> Thanks to all our members, friends and supporters
> throughout the years."

> From:

> http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

AWD Finished it can't be!! Can someone else restart it some where else ?

If so please do. It was the best Amiga resource on the web :(

I thought Y2k was going to be so much better for the miggy and this happens.
A sad, sad day indeed

See Ya Later
-- 
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Web: http://come.to/amigaworkshop
ICQ: 34306277

get a 17" viewsonic monitor or 17" iiyama monitor from www.simply.co.uk

sandy brownlee <sand-@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41111
> Hello,
> 
> Now, after all my indecision, I'm going for a PPC and BlizzardVision.
> 
> Now I would like a really cheap, high resolution, crisp displaying,
large,
> high refresh- capable monitor.
> 
> (Don't we all)
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>         Sandy Brownlee
> 
> -- 
> Sandy Brownlee
> Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
> Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
> Sent using YAM 2.0

This legal Quake PPC port is good news!

With this in mind, I bought the PC Quake off my PC-owning friend whos
more into Unreal these days; paid only about 7 for it. There is a
problem, though...

...the files are archived. Does anyone know how to unpack these? I guess
I should  have checked things before handing the cash, or better yet,
bought of the CB Quake instead!

- Jani, who jumps before he looks.
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

> AWD Finished it can't be!! Can someone else restart
> it some where else ?

They've even taken almost all of the links off.  They
could've just left what was already up on there. 
Maybe they'll let someone else have the pages.
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> ...the files are archived. Does anyone know how to
> unpack these? I guess
> I should  have checked things before handing the
> cash, or better yet,
> bought of the CB Quake instead!

Use a copy of PC-Task to (slowly) unarchive it, or get
your PC-Chum to install it on his machine, then use
Twin and a serial cable to copy the "ID" (I think)
drawer to your miggy.  It's only about 40 meg big...
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Hi Jani

> This legal Quake PPC port is good news!
>
> With this in mind, I bought the PC Quake off my PC-owning friend whos
> more into Unreal these days; paid only about 7 for it. There is a
> problem, though...
>
> ...the files are archived. Does anyone know how to unpack these? I guess
> I should  have checked things before handing the cash, or better yet,
> bought of the CB Quake instead!

I can't check 'cause my CD's on loan ATM but IIRC the files are just zipped
up that just unzip to give 50MB's worth of .PAK files.

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This week's lie: The word "viper" was originally derived from the words
"biscuit" and "spongy".

> http://www.amino1.net/
> 
> no info yet

Well, it looks like they're B5 fans; "and so it
begins" is a quote from Kosh.  Ohmygod!  Amiga
enthusiasts actually own Amiga!  Now that's something
that no-one ever expected.

I think 5 years of disappointment have embittered me slightly.
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jani =3D??q?m=3De4kitalo?=3D <jani.makital-@saunalahti.fi> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41145
> This legal Quake PPC port is good news!
> 
> With this in mind, I bought the PC Quake off my PC-owning friend who=B4s
> more into Unreal these days; paid only about =A37 for it. There is a
> problem, though...
> 
> ...the files are archived. Does anyone know how to unpack these? I
guess
> I should  have checked things before handing the cash, or better yet,
> bought of the CB Quake instead!
>
The following worked for my version of Quake (cd volume name Quake101:),
it might not work for other versions.
First cut the first 1945 bytes from the Q101_int.1 file, you can do
this 
using a simple text editor which supports binary files (i.e. CED).
Load the file into the editor and search for  -lh  next up remove all
the
characters up until the 2 characters before -lh, so you'll end up with
a 
file starting with 2 characters followed by -lh. Now save this file to
HD 
as q1.lha. Next up join the new q1 file and the q101_int.2 to quake.lha 
using the standard join command i.e.:
join q1 quake101:q101_int.2 to quake.lha
(don't forget to enter the path where you've put the q1 file and where
you
want to put the quake.lha file).
Now you can use lha to unarchive the quake.lha file.

> - Jani, who jumps before he looks.
> -- 
> "The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"
> 

Hello Darren

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

> depends on where you live.....

North East Scotland, so I'm really looking for a chain that might have a
branch in Aberdeen. Which is the best of the generic PC stores? I don't
shop at any often...

Regards,

        Sandy Brownlee

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On 02-Jan-00 Alex Furmanski wrote:

> I can't check 'cause my CD's on loan ATM but IIRC the files are just
> zipped up that just unzip to give 50MB's worth of .PAK files.
> 
> --
> Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net

Well, I peeked inside the files with an editor and they actually appear
to be LHA packed (this is Quake version 1.01 so perhaps it was changed
later?). The LHA command gives me the filelisting, while UNZIP does not
recognise it.

However, this appears to be a two-part LHA package (named Q101_int.1 and
Q101_int.2). Having never dealt with those before I dont know how to
uncompress it! It beats me why it even had to be compressed in the
first place - it would have fit the CD easily anyway.

- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

Hi Jani

> On 02-Jan-00 Alex Furmanski wrote:

No I didn't ;-)

> > I can't check 'cause my CD's on loan ATM but IIRC the files are just
> > zipped up that just unzip to give 50MB's worth of .PAK files.
> >
> > --
> > Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
>
> Well, I peeked inside the files with an editor and they actually appear
> to be LHA packed (this is Quake version 1.01 so perhaps it was changed
> later?). The LHA command gives me the filelisting, while UNZIP does not
> recognise it.
>
> However, this appears to be a two-part LHA package (named Q101_int.1 and
> Q101_int.2). Having never dealt with those before I dont know how to
> uncompress it! It beats me why it even had to be compressed in the
> first place - it would have fit the CD easily anyway.

Yeah, it does seem a bit silly.  A bit like bedsocks really - justifiable
yet silly.  You might like to just try joining the lumps together then
LhA'ing it.

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This week's lie: The word "viper" was originally derived from the words
"biscuit" and "spongy".

Hello Steven

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

> A question to the wise (this goes over my head)
> 
> Why can't my Amiga keep a constant fast download speed when downloading
> a file?

It's not just the Amiga, it happens with downloading from the net on any
computer that I've used. (PC and QNX)

I'm not sure exactly why, though- it must be something to do with TCP/IP
negotiations and all that jazz, in addition to network bandwidth et all.

Regards,

        Sandy Brownlee

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Hello Dauber

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

> Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD? Perhaps we can all
> "donate" a small section of personal web space for a certain category,
> like dealers,or mags, hardware tip links, etc.?? I have a coupla megs to
> spare....

I've space, too, but it would need severe co-ordination.

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

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On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:40:16 -0800, AmiFreak@chello=2Enl (b=2Ebeukhof@chell=
o=2Enl) wrote:

> > With this in mind, I bought the PC Quake off my PC-owning friend who=B4=
s
> > more into Unreal these days; paid only about =A37 for it=2E There is a
> > problem, though=2E=2E=2E
> >=20
> > =2E=2E=2Ethe files are archived=2E Does anyone know how to unpack these=
? I guess
> > I should  have checked things before handing the cash, or better yet,
> > bought of the CB Quake instead!
> >
> The following worked for my version of Quake (cd volume name Quake101:),
> it might not work for other versions=2E
> First cut the first 1945 bytes from the Q101_int=2E1 file, you can do
> this=20
> using a simple text editor which supports binary files (i=2Ee=2E CED)=2E
> Load the file into the editor and search for  -lh  next up remove all
> the
> characters up until the 2 characters before -lh, so you'll end up with
> a=20
> file starting with 2 characters followed by -lh=2E Now save this file to
> HD=20
> as q1=2Elha=2E Next up join the new q1 file and the q101_int=2E2 to quake=
=2Elha=20
> using the standard join command i=2Ee=2E:
> join q1 quake101:q101_int=2E2 to quake=2Elha
> (don't forget to enter the path where you've put the q1 file and where
> you
> want to put the quake=2Elha file)=2E
> Now you can use lha to unarchive the quake=2Elha file=2E

or just join the two files and then lha -x them, cos lha will skip the crap
data beforehand that is just the pc's self-extracting stuff=2E

That's what I did with the PC demo when the first illegal port of Q came
out, and I had university (ie free & high bandwith) internet access  :-)

Kev

PS If you've only got 68k, buy the official Quake from CB - you're much
better that way, cos it is much faster =2E=2E=2E=2E

PPS  If you've got a PPC then the unofficial illegal port seems 10fps
faster than this first showing on aminet  ;-)

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hello Sandy, you wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?etc

#I am pretty sure you will be able to get one from a (gasp) PC style shop. 
If this isn't cheap enough,
#kkep your eyes open in your equivalent up there of buy sell and exchange.
#If you are really lucky, a freind of yours will work somewhere that is
upgrading all its monitors, and throwing away all the old ones and get a
very nice Phillips 1409 for free. Ha!
#Yours 

#     Jeremy Spring
#

On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 01:21:03PM -0500, Dauber wrote:

> Uhh...why is it that those foolish people who leave Amiga always seem to
> leave for PC, probably the worst platform ever, when there are Macs out
> there that operate nice and friendly [albeit with no DOS shell and only one
> mouse button], and best of all don't need Microsoft to run the computers?

Since when has buying a PC meant using Microsoft products? In terms of the
price/performance ratio, PCs are very good value - it's just a pity that
there are so many legacy flaws in the hardware. For heaven's sake, even
the Mac has Open Firmware now. Argh.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Thanks for the advice with the Quake archives! The archive needed no hex
editing, joining of the two archives was the only necessary step. LhA
automatically discarded the "erroneous data" in the beginning of the
archive and unpacked the PAKs successfully.

The Quaker port runs quite well on my 603e 200MHz. In AGA LoRes I get
around 15-20fps up on the on-screen counter (and around 30 in confined
spaces). I think this would really fly on a graphics card! Since the
f2p used is optimised code, I expect no great speed improvements in
later ports... Anyone in Finland wanting to part with their BVision? :)


- Jani, off to the Necropolis
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

Hi Chris

>JD> company president Bill McEwen said,  "Yee-haw ...."
>JD> Well at least Bill McEwen seems to be happy about it.

>JD Do we really want a president and CEO who says "Yee-haw"?

>Well Jim Collas was extremely positive while he was in charge,not quite to the
>same degree though, and a large number of people thought things had started to >change for the better. Untill the custard hit the
fan, again;-(
>
>You have to admit it's better than  "O'h my GOD what have I done" ;-)) or just
>plain " O'h F*** "

Well OK then, maybe, just.  ;-)

>Time of course will tell, hopefully we will echo his sentiments.

I hope that`s possible, but until then we`re back to all that uncertainty.  At least with the final Gateway position we knew where
Amiga was heading (PPC) if you ignored all the NG hype.  Now we have the potential for QNX and other ideas to re-appear, not a bad
thing in itself, but another delay until everythings worked through.

What is going to happen to OS3.6 now?  I suppose we have to hope that Amino`s announcements make a few things clear.

Jon


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Hi

It`s great news that AF will shortly be running a 3D tutorial, it`s been a long time coming, but is anyone else concerned that it
will be for C4D?

I know many of us own either v2 from AF or v4 from CU, but IMO AF should run the series on a 3D program that is still being worked
on, Imagine for example.  Many of us will have copies of that too.

Whilst on the subject of Imagine, I reckon it`s about time we had a Work In Progress on it`s current state, a lot of work must have
gone into it since the last review  - any chance Ben?

Jon

Hi Sandy/Dauber

> > Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD? Perhaps we can all
> > "donate" a small section of personal web space for a certain category,
> > like dealers,or mags, hardware tip links, etc.?? I have a coupla megs to
> > spare....
>
> I've space, too, but it would need severe co-ordination.

I`ve not got around to doing a site as yet (I`m a boring sod, nothing to put on one) so I`ve got a full 20 Meg to play with.  A lot
of the stuff on AWD could be shifted to remote sites IMO, for example the company index, still pretty useful for web addresses, but
wouldn`t require much attention.

Jon

Hello Tim

On 31-Dec-99, you wrote:

>TS _Replying to a message_:

>TS> I agree with you to some extent. It would benefit the Amiga community
>TS> greatly, if we all knew good arguments and reasons for continuing to
>TS> use computer we do, as opposed to just saying "it's great" and the
>TS> like. C'mon people; if the rest of the computing world knows us as
>TS> serious users, instead of a mad cult, Amiga would get a lot more
>TS> respect.

>TS The simplest answer is that it's nice to use.

>TS But you'd have to go into that hoary nest of rhetoric to be more
>TS specific.  It's easier to say what makes the IBuM bad...

>TS Microsoft - huge code, bugs galore, updates galore, with newer bugs, and
>TS rampant commercialism.

<snip>

Agreed. For Amiga, refer to one A.Einstein who said "Make it as simple as
possible, but no simpler." or if you like K.I.S.

Whereas M/S adhere to the big is beautifull principle

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Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 

> WTF is going on! I goto cucug to find its shut down forever!, why?, no
> warning? no I see ammiga has been sold (something for af to write
about at
> least) jeeeez, some 2K present this is turning out to be :(


Maybe someone else has already noticed this too: (but I haven't been on
for a while... )

What happened to wustl.wuarchive?!?! aminet?  It's been gone for
probably 2-3 weeks now?~

basshead@blue-lagoon.com.au

matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41133
> Hi
> 
> WTF is going on! I goto cucug to find its shut down forever!, why?, no
> warning? no I see ammiga has been sold (something for af to write
about at
> least) jeeeez, some 2K present this is turning out to be :(

Hi everyone,

Wow, what is happening?  Amiga bought!  (Yipppee!)
now maybe we will get somewhere.
Aminet shut forever!  Thats just takes the p*ss.

Did anyone out there know about this before it happened?
What about all that software?  What will we do now?
Just a few questions that probably most of us are asking.

Does anyone have any plans to set up a new site?  In todays 
standards you could probably hold the whole site on 
one very large hard drive!  I am sure there must be an ISP
out there who would help support this.

Well, any suggestions?  It would be a project that we would
all like to get involved in.

Nick.

Hello Matthew

 
> WTF is going on! I goto cucug to find its shut down forever!, why?, no
> warning? no I see ammiga has been sold (something for af to write
> about at least) jeeeez, some 2K present this is turning out to be :(

I read Kevin Hisel from CUCUG has something against Fleecy Moss, and of
course declining business and market share.
 
Regards
-- 
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC

Hi,

> >JD Do we really want a president and CEO who says "Yee-haw"?
> 
> >Well Jim Collas was extremely positive while he was in charge,not
quite to the
> >same degree though, and a large number of people thought things had
started to >change for the better. Untill the custard hit the
> fan, again;-(
> >
> >You have to admit it's better than  "O'h my GOD what have I done"
;-)) or just
> >plain " O'h F*** "
> 
> Well OK then, maybe, just.  ;-)

I don't care what he said, all I know is that he is a good person, and
a good Amigan.
Does is matter what he said?!
 
> >Time of course will tell, hopefully we will echo his sentiments.
> 
> I hope that`s possible, but until then we`re back to all that
uncertainty.  At least with the final Gateway position we knew where
> Amiga was heading (PPC) if you ignored all the NG hype.  Now we have
the potential for QNX and other ideas to re-appear, not a bad
> thing in itself, but another delay until everythings worked through.
> 
> What is going to happen to OS3.6 now?  I suppose we have to hope that
Amino`s announcements make a few things clear.

I don't think we'll see QNX being used, see:

http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/fleecy.html

That pretty much says it all, but I think we'll see more AmigaOS
updates from
Amino headed Amiga.  We'll know in a few days time... :)

Nick     

Hello Zipper,

At 11:01 02/01/00 , you wrote:
>Hello Matthew
>
>
> > WTF is going on! I goto cucug to find its shut down forever!, why?, no
> > warning? no I see ammiga has been sold (something for af to write
> > about at least) jeeeez, some 2K present this is turning out to be :(
>
>I read Kevin Hisel from CUCUG has something against Fleecy Moss, and of
>course declining business and market share.
>
>Regards
>--
>Zipper

Perhaps it is a good time to visit the page below to remind ourselves of 
one or two things.

http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1998/981118-cucug.html

Will.

On 01-Jan-00, Steven Holmes wrote:

> When the download begins it is often at about 6000bps, then very
> quickly drops to about 4000 bps, then slowly down 3500, 3000, 2500,
> 2000, then it eventually settles at about 1600/1700bps. (These rates
> are a guide, I don't mean they are the exact speeds... You get the
> idea! ;-)  )

The download is 1600cps all the time, it just takes a while for the number
to average out. where are you downloading from? my 030, 33.6k machine gets
6000cps easily...?

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Oxymoron: Minor Issue.

On 31-Dec-99, Simon Jenkins wrote:

> Happy new year all you boys and girls of AFB

Its nice that someone remembered Sandy ;)

Mash - shlober....
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"Weapons do not remain stockpiled."  -Tenzin Gyatso

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Hi

shit shit shit, sorry, are balls, bugger..... I am VERY sorry for sending
that to the list, I really didn't mean to, it should have gone straight to
Johnathan, not the entire list...

hmmm, must be a y2k bug in YAM ;) <whistles innocently>

once again, VERY sorry :/

Mash - Sorry
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I put on women's clothing, And hang around in bars.

HAPPY NEW YEAR Guys,

If you would like to have your website included (or updated) on Amiga
Format magazine's CD #50, (issue 134, March 2000), could you please
upload your archived website site to:

             ftp2.futurenet.co.uk/pub/incoming

The ABSOLUTE deadline is *Friday 7th January* but, we would appreciate
it if you could upload your site sooner. Any websites arriving after the
deadline will not be updated. Please prefix your archive with "AF_"
for example: AF_MyWWWSite.lha.

**************************************************************************

                            Important Notes:

1. We have now re-designed the layout of the "Essential Websites" page on
   the Amiga Format CD and it now includes a hyperlink to your wesite on
   the net allowing Amiga users who have access to the internet to visit
   your wesite directly. We now also require the complete URL to your
   website and this should be contained in a text file called "URL.txt"
   within your archive.

2. Due to space restrictions, websites are now updated on *every CD* basis
   so, if you don't update your website you'll probably find your website
   won't be included on the Amiga Format CD!

3. We make every possible effort to include your website on the Amiga
   Format CD-ROM. However, due to space restrictions, we are sometimes
   forced to make space for alternative data. For this reason we are
   unable to offer any firm guarantees that your website will be included.

4. Some of you have been sending your updated websites to the Future server
   several times over the course of a particular month. In the future could
   you please refrain from doing this. One update per month is fine! ;-)

5. If you have any problems uploading your files to the Future server,
   please email: ftp@futurenet.co.uk to let them know!

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Hi Mash

> > Me, me, me.
> 
> Currently modelling the waist....

Thanx.  Oooh you naughty boy, slap your wrist ;-) wait til Ben finds out. 

> It's raining cats and lesbians!

Ehh?

Jon
-- 

... Infatuation, n:
    When you're in love, there's a lump in your throat.
    When you're infatuated, there's a lump in your pants.

Hello Matthew

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:
>> =

>> Me, me, me.
> =

> Currently modelling the waist....
 =

Why only the lower half?  I wanted to see the whole of Amy in 3D (Better =
than Lara Croft me wonders?)

:)

Regards
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Hi Bifford

>> Currently modelling the waist....
 
>Why only the lower half?  I wanted to see the whole of Amy in 3D (Better than Lara >Croft me wonders?)

>:)

And I`m sure you weren`t planning on fiddling (ooh er) with her assets to make sure of that ;-)

Jon

Hello everyone,

A friend of mine just bought a nice new 17.2 GB Harddrive. We've
installed
FFS V43.20 + scsi.device 43.24 but when trying to prep and partition the
drive using HdToolBox (os 3.1 version) it can only recognize 8 GB.
Please help us :-)

E-mail: AmiFreak@chello.nl
ICQ: 50437470

On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 05:13:14 -0800, AmiFreak@chello.nl (b.beukhof@chello.nl) wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> A friend of mine just bought a nice new 17.2 GB Harddrive. We've
> installed
> FFS V43.20 + scsi.device 43.24 but when trying to prep and partition the
> drive using HdToolBox (os 3.1 version) it can only recognize 8 GB.
> Please help us :-)

Upgrade to OS3.5 - problem solved  :-)

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hello Matthew

On 01-Jan-00, you wrote:

>> Happy new year all you boys and girls of AFB
> 
> Its nice that someone remembered Sandy ;)

Grrr....

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
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Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0

Hey Kevin

On 02-jan-00, you wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 05:13:14 -0800, AmiFreak@chello.nl (b.beukhof@chell=
o.nl) wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> =

>> A friend of mine just bought a nice new 17.2 GB Harddrive. We've
>> installed
>> FFS V43.20 + scsi.device 43.24 but when trying to prep and partition t=
he
>> drive using HdToolBox (os 3.1 version) it can only recognize 8 GB.
>> Please help us :-)
> =

> Upgrade to OS3.5 - problem solved  :-)

Not always the solution. On my set-up the HDToolbox of 3.5 f**ked up big =
time. But the BoingBag (OS3.5 upgrade) seems to have a modified version. =
Did not try that version yet but is worth a try.

> =

> Kev
> =

Regards
-- =

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bert@volders.demon.nl
<sb>
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children.  I would prefer to achieve it by not dying.
-- Woody Allen

Hello Kevin

On 02-Jan-00, you wrote:

>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> A friend of mine just bought a nice new 17.2 GB Harddrive. We've
>> installed
>> FFS V43.20 + scsi.device 43.24 but when trying to prep and partition the
>> drive using HdToolBox (os 3.1 version) it can only recognize 8 GB.
>> Please help us :-)
> 
> Upgrade to OS3.5 - problem solved  :-)
> 
> Kev
> 
No it isn't......I've got a 13Gb HD but OS3.5 with Boing Bag enhancement, it
only recognises 9.5Gb.

OS3.5 does _NOT_ fully support hard drives bigger than 4Gb.

Regards

chris
-- 
 Bada, Big Boom.
-- LeeLoo, The Fifth Element

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hi everyone.  Bit of news from my website:


Before Vulcan Software decided to abandon their Amiga
operation, they were going to release a Doom-clone
creator by the author of F1 Sotware's most successful
title, GRAC. By virtue of the fact that I'm friends
with his brother, I've convinced Edmund Clay to
release it via the internet, and should be available
for download from this website soon!

The "3D Game Creator", or "Doom But In Blitz" as it
was known during testing, allows you to do pretty much
anything you can in Doom, including (as far as I can
remember):

- Lighting effects
- Look up/down
- Jump
- Multiple level walkways
- Bouncing grenade effects
- Stairwells
- Intelligent enemies that do not hide behind doors
waiting for you to open them, who then try to get on a
line with you and shoot you from a distance (Amiga
Power would be proud)

And loads more.

The lighting effects are more advanced than AB3DII's;
the preview game had a torch, like Half-Life's (though
it was written several years before that game was
released), and the light-bulbs that lit up the
majority of the corridors could be shot out. This
affected the enemies' ability to see you, reducing the
accuracy of their shots, and enabling you to sneak
past unobserved.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be shareware.

Anyway, that's enough plugging for now.
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Hi all,

The deadlines for the CDs and the on sale dates for this year are now up on
the afb calendar.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
try this: http://www.music365.co.uk

Ha! Not just an OS3.5 Wishlist now.

Hopefully we can do some big big things
with AmigaOS if only just to make it that
much more friendly, even if it only gets
retired to an emulation in the end.

I'm gonna do some little articles on
different parts of the OS and tools that
have been suggested, that I have thought
of, that have been in old "Amiga 2000"
articles, etc.

Basically anything goes now. If it's been
implemented on AmigaOS, it can potentially
go *into* AmigaOS, within reason.

So MagicMenu would be a candidate for
integration. But VMM would not be, because
it breaks too much, is breaking the system,
and is technically a *REAL* hack.. 

Maybe that's a bad example. But anyway. Go
suggest (ON THE WEBSITE, NOT HERE) and I'll
see if it warrants a case study type look,
or just a breif mention.

I might see what Olaf Barthel thinks of it all
as well..

Okeydokey?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi,

http://opaldata.com/the_end/index.html

All the best,
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uh oh! Part of this tagline is umop apisdn

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:05:04 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> http://opaldata.com/the_end/index.html

Kewl

</hipdude>

Kev

-- 
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What's been happening while I've been away?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Errol!

I'll have those icons you asked Ben for
before Friday (the deadline), definitely.
Don't make any big changes, I've modified
a few icons, so if you've over-used some
of them you might need to change them
(actually they're pretty non-used icons ;)

If you need any specific specific icons,
please mail me at home matt@neko.u-net.com
and I'll work on them if I have time. Same
goes for Ben.

Sorry about the mailing-list approach,
but I think it's necessaryary, as I also
need to ask a question  ;)

QUESTION FOR OTHER PEOPLE:

Has anyone got a picture of a roladex,
you know those things with the bits of
paper that you put addresses and stuff in?

Failing that, has anyone got any icons
from Amiga apps that feature a roladex
so that I can remind myself what the HELL
they look like (exactly) and draw a neat
Glowicons style one? Thanks!!

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hello Ben

On 05-Jan-00, you wrote:

>BV Hi,
>BV 
>BV http://opaldata.com/the_end/index.html

>BV All the best,

What more can one say? 

I don't suppose that you can argue with fact.

This is something that I never thought that I would ever see.

All the best

Colin
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"paul laycock" <amipa-@yahoo.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41434
> Hi ppl,
> 
> Anyone studied the source to the Amino website. Such keywords as
> "Linux", "Open System", and "Open Platform" are mentioned. Possibly a
> clue to where they may be heading?

No, just ways to get extra hits from outside. There was a big
fuss over those keywords on the Team Amiga mailing list, in that
they're just attention grabbing...

Neko

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:26 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
> What's been happening while I've been away?

Ummm, your OS3.5 wishlist didn't let me ask for a user-definable timeout on
printer.device ...

Kev

-- 
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> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:26 -0000, Sealey, M. 
> (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
> > What's been happening while I've been away?
> 
> Ummm, your OS3.5 wishlist didn't let me ask for a 
> user-definable timeout on printer.device ...

It should do. Try it *NOW* and it should get through.
If not, mail me at home (link on site) and I'll add
it to the "Printing" section of the revamped site..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Ant,

> Hi everyone.  Bit of news from my website:

What website's that, then?

> Before Vulcan Software decided to abandon their Amiga
> operation, they were going to release a Doom-clone
> creator by the author of F1 Sotware's most successful
> title, GRAC. By virtue of the fact that I'm friends
> with his brother, I've convinced Edmund Clay to
> release it via the internet, and should be available
> for download from this website soon!

Again - could you give us the URL?

Cheers,
Drew Green
=======================
Drew.Green@btinternet.com

On 04-Jan-00 14:08:50, Paul Cundle said about [afb] Re: External ZIP drive on Amiga:
> According to Patrick, there's something good going on and it's
> something to do with [afb] External ZIP drive on Amiga.

>> Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga 500/600? I
>> think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.

> Different question here:

> I want to get an external Zip (250MB) for my A1200. I've got a Surf
> Squirrel.
> Thing is, Curry's have a SCSI Zip drive "for the Mac" but it says it
> also works on a PC with a 25pin socket, or a 50 pin adaptor. I would
> just assume this is the right one for me and buy the 25-->50 pin
> adaptor (probably by mail order as I can't see any in the shops) but
> for one thing:

> This costs 110 in Currys, reduced from 120 for the sale. But in AF
> it is advertised for 190. Is it the right thing? Do I need anything
> else?

The Zip works well with the Squirrel,you do need the adaptor cable though!
I got the cable at PCWorld....I think it was apprx 8.




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Uin:19729444
Why isn't phonetically spelled that way?

Hi Everybody,

> What OS is being used with LZX, 3.1 and below or 3.5 ?
> =

> IIRC Shell\Cli in any OS *below* 3.5 is not y2k compatable.

   In what way is shell not y2k compatible? I've 3.1 and the dates show u=
p fine, and I think, actually, all the amiga OS's are y2k compatible.

Anyway, who cares if LZX has a small y2k bug? so what if the file dates d=
on't pack right, you can still read the file can't you?

See ya :)
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          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166        =

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"Bother," said Pooh, as a piece of blue ice hit him square in the face.

Alex Furmanski said something about [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

> Sainsbury's?  I'm an Asda man!  But seriously, no.  For one thing the queues
> at Sainsbury's/Adsa/other supermarket are so bloody long, the checkout
> assistants so slow, and the barcode readers so crap it can easily take well
> over an hour to do the shop.  Windows installs in 30 minutes (it sez ear).

Ah yes. But can you enjoy the four bottles of Black Sheep that find,
ahem, fall in to your trolley after installing Windows? :)
-- 
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>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

>> Here is another HTML question.
>> I've heard that a site can tell where a visitor has come from using HTTP
>header
>> or something. Is it possible to use this information to re-direct a
>visitor
>> dependant on where they've come from?

>This is done using a javascript program in the header.  Its not standard
>HTML.

O.K. I'll try again.
Here is another Javascript question ;-)
(see above)

How?

All the best,
Phil


==================================
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phil_ellis@bigfoot.com
http://www.philellis.co.uk
Info on Cystic Fibrosis
http://www.philellis.co.uk/cf.html
==================================

in a fit of rage Sealey, M. said something about [afb] Gone-ness

> What's been happening while I've been away?

Nuffin' much, a new millennium and I cut my toe nails...

(And no, before anyone (I'm looking at you Mash) asks  I don't only
cut my nails every 1000 years)
-- 
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>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

in a fit of rage Matthew O'Neill said something about [afb] Re: Recent events in Amiga-land

> http://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk although their web server sucks so I use 
> the much better http://www.bigwig.net/mash :) please go there!, no hits in 
> over 5 months :(

Tried putting "porn" in the header? 3:-)
-- 
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>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hello,

> Its fine as long as I
> A) dont play Frontier

I had a problem with Frontier, which turned out to be caused by the fact
that I was using a high-res Workbench pointer, instead of a low-res ponter.

Just a thought.

VIC

Hello,

> > ............Now all I have to do is get rid of the English
Boyfriend................
>
> Or become the English boyfriend?
>

I thought he meant HIS English Boyfriend.  I thought this list seemed rather
enlightened.

:)

VIC

Hi,

Yes I agree, it's like watching paint dry, it's had that 'design' since
1997 :(

Nick

> AmiGameBoy looked promising, but it plays up on most
> ROM files, so can anybody inform me about A fastish
> Gameboy emulator that supports newer types of ROMs
> and that will run on a system like mine.

I`ve got a registered version of WzonkaLad, which runs at full speed on my
030/40 on an AGA screen - at least Kirby Pinball, Zelda, etc do.

But the last upload I saw on Aminet said it wouldn`t load proper ROMs any
more - unless that just meant the demo version.  BTW - it`s much better if
you`ve also got a CD32 joypad.

VIC

>AMOS was good for its time. I just wish people would learn a REAL languag=
>e. I'm not denying AMOS can produce good results (your Cannon Fodder clon=
>e is quite good, for example), but since I migrated from AMOS to Amiga E =
>(and then C and assembler too), i've never looked back,
>and now only use AMOS to try out ideas before coding them properly...


I know what you mean but I still disagree with the general sentiments
towards AMOS.

My actual job is a games programmer so I obviously have to program in
C/C++/ASM
using Direct-X/OpenGL etc. I guess these are what you would call 'real'
languages.

However they are no more real than AMOS. Games programming is more about the
techniques you
use rather than the language you do it in.

The techniques you learn using AMOS are the same as using C++ but with AMOS
you can afford
the time to experiment a lot more.

And of course, not everyone has the time/money/skill/desire to learn C++.
I'd also like to point out that in my opinion it is much harder to get into
coding C++ on the AMIGA than on Windows, because of a lack of
books/resources/help.

My cannon-fodder game, Turtleminator is actually a few years old but it
didn't take that long to code
in AMOS. If I'd done it in C++ it would have taken much much longer, been
much much more unstable and wouldn't have been much better.
A little bit faster but it gets almost 25fps already so I wouldn't need
that.
Better graphics? No. The graphics are only as good as my graphics artist
(which I think were pretty good anyway).

All in all, there was not one good reason for me to good that particular
game in C rather than AMOS.

The problem is that AMOS is too good at what it does. Any fool can come
along and make a reasonable attempt at a game. People see these and
automatically blame the language.
If C++ was as easy to code in as AMOS you'd get an equally number of bad
games coming from that language.

You have migrated from AMOS to E/C/ASM but at one point you were an AMOS
programmer. Everyone has to start somewhere before migrating don't they? And
there is no other good alternative to AMOS at the moment. I don't want to
start an arguement about Blitz but I think its very buggy and not very
friendly. Even on the PC they have nothing which comes close to being as
easy to learn whilst being fairly powerful and being good at teaching the
techniques. Dark Basic looks like it might make it but not for a while yet.

-Murray

> Hihi Alex,
> 
>> Uhm, you don't really wanna go disabling the validation process as you can't
>> write to an invalid drive.  Unless you don't want to write to it of
>> course...
> 
> Sure, fair do. The unwritability of invalid drives completely slipped my mind.
> I bow to your greatness :)
> 
> (Anyone got any suggestions regarding my wobbily zorro slot btw?)
> 

It could be unique....... the only one in the universe, the wibbly wobbily zorro slot
that feels an outsider because the rest aren't wobbily... or maybe not.

Back to the mental institute I think!!!

Regards

Darren

> > Hi everyone.  Bit of news from my website:
> 
> What website's that, then?

Whoops!  It's:

http://members.xoom.com/greenpizza

(Info posted in the forum)

Everything about the game creator that is on the site
I've put in my original posting.  I'll post more info
to afb as it happens.

Ed Clay's just got back from Africa at the moment, and
is using a laptop more than his miggy these days, but
I should have more info soon.
__________________________________________________
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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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Brilliant!, a bloke that starts the year off with YeeHaa!!

but we will see and time will tell

Regards

Darren

Greetings  Jani 

On 04-Jan-00, you wrote:

> On 03-Jan-00 Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>> same thing, it would be the other way round. plus validating a
>> drive(haven't done that since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes
>> minutes, win takes hours, maybe day to put it all back
>> 
>> Mash - 

> Minutes? Surely not! My 2GB drive eats up to 20 minutes to
> revalidate. Or is my filesystem effed up?

My 3.6gig file became invalid the other day (ran out of ram which cause
ibrowse to choke halfway through a d/l) for the first time in ages.

I simply booted with no startup sequence. The drive lit up for about
30 seconds while it validated, and bobs your cross dressing uncle,
all is well.

> - Jani
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

Life's a bitch. Well, it just is
--

> I`ve got a registered version of WzonkaLad, which
> runs at full speed on my
> 030/40 on an AGA screen - at least Kirby Pinball,
> Zelda, etc do.

You cam't register any more unless you:

a) learn C
b) learn how to code C for the Game Boy
c) get a compiler for the Game Boy
d) send a work-in-progress and source code to Ville
Helin.

Personally, I'd prefer to part with 10.

> But the last upload I saw on Aminet said it wouldn`t
> load proper ROMs any
> more - unless that just meant the demo version.  BTW
> - it`s much better if
> you`ve also got a CD32 joypad.

That was version 1.00.00e.  Within a week, version
1.00.01e was released, with that limitation removed.

Emuls to avoid are VGB and Gamebuk; they're slow and
have a poor incompatibility rate.  AmiGameBoy is the
best, in my opinion.  However, AmiDog has recently
released "GBE", a colour GB emulator for PPC Amigas,
though this won't be any use to whoever originally
posted the message.

Everyone else can check out http://www.amidog.com/emu
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Hi Anthony

> > Sainsbury's?  I'm an Asda man!  But seriously, no.  For one thing the
queues
> > at Sainsbury's/Adsa/other supermarket are so bloody long, the checkout
> > assistants so slow, and the barcode readers so crap it can easily take
well
> > over an hour to do the shop.  Windows installs in 30 minutes (it sez
ear).
>
> Ah yes. But can you enjoy the four bottles of Black Sheep that find,
> ahem, fall in to your trolley after installing Windows? :)

You know a thread has run its life when it descends to making sheep jokes...

--
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WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: The word "viper" was originally derived from the words
"biscuit" and "spongy".

Hi Phil

> >> Here is another HTML question.
> >> I've heard that a site can tell where a visitor has come from using
HTTP
> >header
> >> or something. Is it possible to use this information to re-direct a
> >visitor
> >> dependant on where they've come from?
>
> >This is done using a javascript program in the header.  Its not standard
> >HTML.
>
> O.K. I'll try again.
> Here is another Javascript question ;-)
> (see above)
>
> How?

document.referrer holds the URL of the page that the user clicked a link to
get where they are.  Note, though, that it only has the URL if they
*clicked* a link - if it was a direct request (typing the URL in the address
bar for example) it'll be blank.  Mail me off-list if you want more.

--
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WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: The word "viper" was originally derived from the words
"biscuit" and "spongy".

Hi all at afb,

This is just a test message to see if Egroups have subscribed me
successfully.

Cheers,

Ian Shurmer

powered by AMIGA in Norwich

The Man with No Name wrote:

> Before Vulcan Software decided to abandon their Amiga
> operation, they were going to release a Doom-clone
> creator by the author of F1 Sotware's most successful
> title, GRAC. By virtue of the fact that I'm friends
> with his brother, I've convinced Edmund Clay to
> release it via the internet, and should be available
> for download from this website soon!

Excellent news!! I was waiting with baited breath for this software, being a
bit of a dabbler with Doom editors. I returned again and again to Vulcan's
site, in the hope that it was nearing completion, and then the bugger
vanished without trace (the info, not the site).

Could you please give us the URL?

Soon?  :)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.

Matt Sealey wrote:

> What's been happening while I've been away?

We all said rude things about you.  ;)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Always take time to stop and smell the roses and, sooner or later, you'll
inhale a bee.

Matt Sealey

> Has anyone got a picture of a roladex,
> you know those things with the bits of
> paper that you put addresses and stuff in?
>
> Failing that, has anyone got any icons
> from Amiga apps that feature a roladex
> so that I can remind myself what the HELL
> they look like (exactly) and draw a neat
> Glowicons style one? Thanks!!

I have a bit of structured clip-art which is nicely detailed. I can bitmap
it if you prefer. Name your format and max file size.

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Keep your nose to the grindstone and your shoulder to the wheel.
It's a lot cheaper than plastic surgery.

Jonathan Duncombe wrote:

> Jonathan M Duncombe ( hi J.M.Dudley - same initials - two
> on the one list - confusing or what :)

Not at all.

Who am I again?  :)

Regards,
J.M. Duncombe.

Doh!

Jonny. (confusion reigned - and we all got wet)
--
The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:06:44 -0800, Nick Lamburn wibbled...

> Yes I agree, it's like watching paint dry, it's had that 'design' since
> 1997 :(

I like it; it doesn't take half an hour to load and decode the images
for one thing, it doesn't rely on JS for links when <a href> does the
job just as well, it's quick and easy to navigate...

-- 
The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk ---------------------------------
Episode 4764 - Morse and Lewis investigate their lack of Christmas Dinner,
with the help of Professor Heinz Wolff.
-------------------------------- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:26 -0000, Sealey, M. wibbled...

> What's been happening while I've been away?

Apart from the Amiga/Amino takeover, events over on the Netconnect list
could result in Active being taken to Trading Standards. Which is
interesting.

-- 
The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk ---------------------------------
Episode 4764 - Morse and Lewis investigate their lack of Christmas Dinner,
with the help of Professor Heinz Wolff.
-------------------------------- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble

As we are on the subject of External ZIP drives, I'd just like to
mention that I have been trying to sell a SCSI one for the past few
months. Send me a private mail on DonaldWM@stonelawdrive.freeserve.co.u
k if you'd like to know more about it. Sorry to interrupt...

On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...

>> Well, there's obviously something wrong somewhere - I'm using the
>> same version, and I don't see dates like you describe!  I see the
>> following behaviour - any files pre-2000 behave in the normal way, but
>> any files post-2000 display their year as 128 in an LZX list, but set
>> themselves to the current date and time when the file was dearchived.

>Are you sure you are actually over-writing the existing file?  Copy a file
>to a temporary drawer, bung it into an lzx archive, then delete the
>original file before you do the unarchiving.  See if that makes a
>difference ...

I've tried copying over the original file, deleting the file then
dearchiving, and dearchiving to a whole new partition - results remain
the same.

Could it be OS specific then?  I'm using 3.1.


Bablos.

On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...

>I'm just wondering if people are archiving or extracting using different
>options, eg -a (Preserve file attributes) or -E (Touch extracted files)
...

I'm using lzx x foobar.lzx


Bablos.

Hello Andy

On 05-Jan-00, you wrote:

>>> same thing, it would be the other way round. plus validating a
>>> drive(haven't done that since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes
>>> minutes, win takes hours, maybe day to put it all back
>>> 
>>> Mash - 
> 
>> Minutes? Surely not! My 2GB drive eats up to 20 minutes to
>> revalidate. Or is my filesystem effed up?
> 
> My 3.6gig file became invalid the other day (ran out of ram which cause
> ibrowse to choke halfway through a d/l) for the first time in ages.
> 
> I simply booted with no startup sequence. The drive lit up for about
> 30 seconds while it validated, and bobs your cross dressing uncle,
> all is well.

That works for me, too. (Not cross dressing, b4 anyone asks)
Actually, I think OS3.5 has some kind of WAITVALIDATE function, or I have a
nice hack that does it without me knowing, because when invalidation
occurs, WB loading stops until it can boot without killing the HD. This
normally works out faster.

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
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Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0

Hi Everyone,

I have been trying to make a zip bootable so as to run on my A1200 via the IOMEGA 100
unit.

I have managed, via SquirrelHDToolbox, to set up the parameters (one of which is IDH0) and have then high level formatted
 it as ZIP-Workbench.

I mounted it with SCSIMounter and saved the resulting Mountlist as IDH0, which
was then placed into the Devs/Dosdrivers drawer.

I then copied across to the zip the contents of the HD Workbench partition.

How do I get the zip to bootup on a reset?

Thanks in advance

Bill

Hello Ant

On 05-Jan-00, you wrote:

> This has been bugging me for a while.  Is it just me,
> or is the Amiga website dull, poorly designed and just
> plain useless?  It's like looking through the
> Workbench  manuals again. It never gets updated, either.

I agree, Amiga.org looks much more professional, and they aren't exactly a
company.

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
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Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0

Hello Daniel

On 05-Jan-00, you wrote:

>> What's been happening while I've been away?
> 
> Apart from the Amiga/Amino takeover, events over on the Netconnect list
> could result in Active being taken to Trading Standards. Which is
> interesting.

Sorry for being ignorant, but uh?

What is this all about, then?

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
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Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0

Just got a question on fitting an IDE 2.5 "  Hard Drive to a very early
model A600. The kickstart version is 2.04,  37.299 and I am totally unable
to get my hard drive to work. I was wondering if there is a patch availabe
to get it recognised or if I have to get KS 2.05, 37.350

Hello Anthony

On 06-Jan-00, you wrote:

>AP in a fit of rage Sealey, M. said something about [afb] Gone-ness

>AP> What's been happening while I've been away?

>AP Nuffin' much, a new millennium and I cut my toe nails...

>AP (And no, before anyone (I'm looking at you Mash) asks  I don't only
>AP cut my nails every 1000 years)

Full Moons as well ? ;-)

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                     ============================================
                             *Amiga Phoenix For The Future*
                             ============================
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                                    ==============
                             PGP Key Available on Request
                             ============================


Bang on the LEFT side of your computer to restart Windows

>Just got a question on fitting an IDE 2.5 "  Hard Drive to a very early
>model A600. The kickstart version is 2.04,  37.299 and I am totally unable
>to get my hard drive to work. I was wondering if there is a patch availabe
>to get it recognised or if I have to get KS 2.05, 37.350


You'll need to upgrade your Kickstart. My advice is just go all-out and get
OS 3.1. About 99.44% of my stuff on my A600 from my 2.05 worked perfectly on
3.1, as did, of course non-AGA OS 3.1-based software.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:21:15 -0000, Bablos (bablos@cableinet.co.uk) wrote:
> On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...

> I've tried copying over the original file, deleting the file then
> dearchiving, and dearchiving to a whole new partition - results remain
> the same.
> 
> Could it be OS specific then?  I'm using 3.1.

OS3.5 here - why haven't you upgraded?   ;-)

> >I'm just wondering if people are archiving or extracting using different
> >options, eg -a (Preserve file attributes) or -E (Touch extracted files)
> ...
> 
> I'm using lzx x foobar.lzx

I'm just using lzx x too!

This is with v1.21, the 040/060 version ...

Kev

-- 
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:01:02 +0100, Sandy Brownlee (sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) wrote:

> That works for me, too. (Not cross dressing, b4 anyone asks)
> Actually, I think OS3.5 has some kind of WAITVALIDATE function, or I have a
> nice hack that does it without me knowing, because when invalidation
> occurs, WB loading stops until it can boot without killing the HD. This
> normally works out faster.

(0) Ready> setpatch ?
QUIET/S,NOCACHE/S,REVERSE/S,NOAGA/S,NONSD/S,PATCHCONFIGFILE=PCF/K,PATCHCONFIGLINE=PCL/K,PATCHINFO=PI/S,FORCEUPDATE/S,KILLUPDATE/S,NOROMUPDATE/S,DISABLEROMMODULES/K,SKIPROMUPDATES=SKIPROMMODULES/K,WAITFORVALIDATE/S: 

So everyone with OS3.5 should put the WAITFORVALIDATE switch at the end of
their call to SetPatch in S:Startup-Sequence ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hi Andy,

The zips are amiga formatted and I have never had any problems.

The zips did not get hot at all. Mind you, the Classic Squirrel interface gets
quite warm regardless so perhaps the room temp could have caused instability.
Perhaps the computer also could have became unstable.

As I said, closing down the computer and turning off the heater rectified the
problem. One chap said it could have been a surge caused by the convector
heater but surge plugs are fitted anyway.

Cheers

Bill

On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...

>> Could it be OS specific then?  I'm using 3.1.

>OS3.5 here - why haven't you upgraded?   ;-)

I'll upgrade when someone convinces me to do so, when I KNOW that
everything will still work properly, and when I can afford to shell
out for it.  You always were a bully, redvers!

>> I'm using lzx x foobar.lzx

>I'm just using lzx x too!

>This is with v1.21, the 040/060 version ...

Same version, same CPU version.  Maybe it's an OS3.5 problem  ;o)


Bablos.

Hi Jeremy,

I think your clock might be set wrong....

Cheers,

Ian Shurmer

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 22:00:08 -0000, Bablos (bablos@cableinet.co.uk) wrote:
> On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...
> 
> >> Could it be OS specific then?  I'm using 3.1.
> 
> >OS3.5 here - why haven't you upgraded?   ;-)
> 
> I'll upgrade when someone convinces me to do so, when I KNOW that
> everything will still work properly, and when I can afford to shell
> out for it.  You always were a bully, redvers!

Mwuhahahaha!  Everything seems to work fine here .... and why not give up
beer for a week so that you can support the amiga?  ;-) 

> >> I'm using lzx x foobar.lzx
> 
> >I'm just using lzx x too!
> 
> >This is with v1.21, the 040/060 version ...
> 
> Same version, same CPU version.  Maybe it's an OS3.5 problem  ;o)

You also using PFS3 on a Seagate SCSI3 drive hooked up to a CS-PPC 233/060?

Kev

-- 
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On 05-Jan-00 Andy Kinsella wrote:

> My 3.6gig file became invalid the other day (ran out of ram which
> cause ibrowse to choke halfway through a d/l) for the first time in
> ages.
> 
> I simply booted with no startup sequence. The drive lit up for about
> 30 seconds while it validated, and bobs your cross dressing uncle,
> all is well.

Ah, the mysteries of the filesystems. :) Im still using FFS, BTW. Is
the validation time dependent on the DRIVE size or PARTITION size? My
WB3.0 is 100megs (to make the second partition 2GB exactly). I guess
some speed-up will be evident once I get around buying & installing
WB3.5.

> Regards
> 
> Andy

- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

> You cam't register any more unless you:

> a) learn C
> b) learn how to code C for the Game Boy
> c) get a compiler for the Game Boy
> d) send a work-in-progress and source code to Ville
> Helin.

> Personally, I'd prefer to part with =A310.

Nonono! Get GBDK from Aminet. I downloaded it years ago (back in my BBS d=
ays!) and was making cartridges within 30 minutes! Its fab. Give the ILBM=
toGB utility plenty of stack though...


-- =

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #5:
AmigaBASIC: A Microsoft Incompatible Gnarled American Backwards Arsed Stu=
pid Incoherent Code

Hello Nick

On 04-Jan-00, you wrote:

> It's Fleecy! ;-)  But seriously, i agree, if you want to see what Amino
> is probably going to do, see AF's digital convergence article written
> by Fleecy, November 1998 issue iirc; i think that'll give you a good
> idea what's ahead... (and it's not qnx, i can say that much...)

Isn't Fleecy part of that Open Source AmigaOS Campaign ? That might be the
way forward
 
See Ya Later
-- 
Wesley Potter
Web: http://come.to/amigaworkshop
ICQ: 34306277

Hello,

Just a quick question. When are White Knight re-opening. All I get is "White
Knight Technologies is now closed for the Christmas and New Year period".
Arrrgh!! I want my Blizzard 1240

See Ya Later
-- 
Wesley Potter
Web: http://come.to/amigaworkshop
ICQ: 34306277

From: Alex Furmanski <a.furmanski@virgin.net>

> Sainsbury's?  I'm an Asda man!  But seriously, no.  For one thing the
queues
> at Sainsbury's/Adsa/other supermarket are so bloody long, the checkout
> assistants so slow, and the barcode readers so crap it can easily take
well
> over an hour to do the shop.  Windows installs in 30 minutes (it sez ear).

What I don't like is going to a supermarket and they're really busy, but
only 3 checkouts are working :(

Oh, and I installed Windows onto a formatted drive in about 15 mins :)

Tom U

> Oh, and I installed Windows onto a formatted drive in about 15 mins :)

But of course, that was done after you slowed down time. It actually took 3
and a half hours, but it seemed like 15 minutes.

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I.

On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...

>Mwuhahahaha!  Everything seems to work fine here .... and why not give up
>beer for a week so that you can support the amiga?  ;-) 

Support the Amiga, or support a small third world country?

>You also using PFS3 on a Seagate SCSI3 drive hooked up to a CS-PPC
233/060?

Erm... nope?  Quantum Fireball on an internal 1200 interface.  Why I
never shelled out for that SCSI interface on the BPPC is a mystery to
me...


Bablos.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:05:00 -0000, Bablos (bablos@cableinet.co.uk) wrote:
> On 05-Jan-00, Kevin Fairhurst spewed forth the following...
> 
> >Mwuhahahaha!  Everything seems to work fine here .... and why not give up
> >beer for a week so that you can support the amiga?  ;-) 
> 
> Support the Amiga, or support a small third world country?

it's a tough choice, but lets go for Amiga  ;-)

> >You also using PFS3 on a Seagate SCSI3 drive hooked up to a CS-PPC
> 233/060?
> 
> Erm... nope?  Quantum Fireball on an internal 1200 interface.  Why I
> never shelled out for that SCSI interface on the BPPC is a mystery to
> me...

That might be it then - but I doubt it to be honest ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

I was just going to bed, when Dauber wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> PC> This costs =A3110 in Currys, reduced from =A3120 for the sale=2E But =
in AF
> PC> it is advertised for =A3190=2E Is it the right thing? Do I need anyth=
ing
> PC> else?
=20
> Sounds like it's the right thing=2E

Righto=2E Ta=2E

> and when I need to connect it to my wife's computer I use a
> DB25-to-50-pin [not Centronics, but the small kind=2E=2E=2Ewhat's that
> called???]

Anyone know? What does it look like BTW? I think I may have to get one
from Eyetech anyway=2E

      Dauber * ICQ: 28677921=20=20=20

Thanks=2E

Paul C, with a parking permit
--=20
=2E=2E=2E I'm trying to get some air circulating, said Tom fanatically=2E

What are you on about, Dauber?

> Oh=2E=2E=2Eone more thing=2E=2E=2EI don't know about the Zip 250, but the=
 "standard" Zip
> doesn't come with a Zip disk -- you have to buy 'em separately, so keep
> that in mind=2E=2E=2E=2E

Comes with one 250MB disk, although I'll need some more pretty quick=2E
=20
> As for pricing -- ALL devices advertised in Amiga magazines are much more
> expensive than they are in stores!

I realise this, but =A380 extra for a standard box seems very high - I
expected extra cables and stuff at least

Paul C, actively up a drainpipe
--=20
=2E=2E=2E Does the Little Mermaid wear an algebra?

I was just going to bed, when Paul Laycock wrote this and I just HAD to read it:

> [Amiga traders more expensive]
> while I went to Staples and got the same model for less than $100...
> 
> If something goes wrong though, will these places offer support for an
> Amiga system? Probably not.

With something like a Zip drive it shouldn't be a problem - if it
doesn't work, it doesn't work, and they wouldn't check it anyway.

> Paul

Paul C, note the C
-- 
... Q: How many Oxford Uni students does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A: Just one. He holds the light bulb and the universe revolves around him.

The name's Urie, Ian Urie, licence to email=2E

> The Zip works well with the Squirrel,you do need the adaptor cable though=
!
> I got the cable at PCWorld=2E=2E=2E=2EI think it was apprx =A38=2E

Right, thanks=2E Two things now
i) Does it work with the /surf/ squirrel? (suppose I could trawl AF
for a review=2E=2E=2E :/)
ii) What does the cable look like?

> Ian Urie=20

Paul C, spelt phonetically
--=20
=2E=2E=2E To err is human, but when the eraser wears out before the pencil,=
 you're overdoing it a little=2E

What are you on about, Sean Courtney?

> In fact, there's an Amiga setup guide on the Iomega web site
> somewhere. I'd post the direct URL, as it's sort of "hidden," but
> because I found it on AWD...well...you know.

Oooh, lovely. Pleeeeaaaaaaasssssee try and find the URL if you still
have it (obviously I wouldn't ask you to scour the internet for it!
(Well... ;))

Paul C, and you are?
-- 
... "Bother," said Pooh, as the the drug squad broke down the door.

When did the 'u' key move on my keyboard?

I seem uncapable of finding it from a funny angle without looking any
more. Very annoying.

Any ideas?

Paul C, so special
-- 

Hello Jani

On 04-Jan-00, Jani Mkitalo wrote:
> On 03-Jan-00 Matthew O'Neill wrote:
> 
>> same thing, it would be the other way round. plus validating a
>> drive(haven't done that since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes
>> minutes, win takes hours, maybe day to put it all back
>> 
>> Mash - 
> 
> Minutes? Surely not! My 2GB drive eats up to 20 minutes to revalidate.
> Or is my filesystem effed up?

Get a 060 + SCSI3! It takes 2 minutes for 1.7 GB partition ;-)...

Regards
-- 
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC

Power Computing has the licence to re-manufacture phase5 PPC cards...so far, they are only taking up the CyberStorm PPC accelerator and the C/BVision graphics cards...currently, there are no plans to manufacture Blizzard 603/603+ cards :(

Is there a market for the Blizzard 603/603+ range?
----

Please select one of the following:

   o Yes, Power, I want a Blizzard 603/603+ card...
   o I`m happy sticking with my 68k cpu...
   o I`m waiting for my G4 card...
   o I`m waiting for my AmiJoe card...
   o I`m waiting for Amiga Corp. to tell me more...


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=947114650164&listname=afb

Thank you!

From: Neil Bullock <tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net>

> > Oh, and I installed Windows onto a formatted drive in about 15 mins :)
>
> But of course, that was done after you slowed down time. It actually took
3
> and a half hours, but it seemed like 15 minutes.

Well, It was following your "advice" that ment I had to reformat the disk
:-)
Although the slowing down time thing would be useful tomorrow afternoon, I
gotta finish some coursework. I'll install windows while I do it, yes?

Tom U

> Well, It was following your "advice" that ment I had to reformat the disk
> :-)
> Although the slowing down time thing would be useful tomorrow afternoon, I
> gotta finish some coursework. I'll install windows while I do it, yes?

Actually, I probably shouldn't have posted what I did. I didn't actually
realise I was replying to something on afb :) I thought it was afb-ot :)
Oops...

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 My train of thought?  It derailed!

Hello Ben,

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41447
> Hi,
> 
> http://opaldata.com/the_end/index.html
> 
> All the best,
> -- 

Great Link. I should send this link to the Australian Government, cause
this'd probably be the only place that they'd be able to censor the
internet.

Dumb Governments, thinking that Netforce (the dumb movie) is based on
reality (whole internet going through the whitehouse with encryption
that can kill/censor the internet)

That was my Bit

Regards

Kresimir Rogic
Canberra Amiga Users Society President.
A4000/CSPPC/80Mb RAM/OS3.1/CV643D/15Gb+ HDD/RICOH CD-R/4x
EIDE/AriadneII and a Palm IIIx

Greetings all.

Has anyone used the HDToolbox program after installing OS3.5?
I would like to change the partition sizes (HD2..HD4) after 
formatting them first.  I noticed that a little window comes 
up saying that I will lose all data!
I don't want to make the mistake of losing all the data on
all the partitions, including the one that OS3.5 is stored on!

Many thanks,

Nick.

> Has anyone used the HDToolbox program after installing OS3.5?
> I would like to change the partition sizes (HD2..HD4) after
> formatting them first.  I noticed that a little window comes
> up saying that I will lose all data!
> I don't want to make the mistake of losing all the data on
> all the partitions, including the one that OS3.5 is stored on!

As far as I know, you have no choice as to whether you lose the data on the
drives or not. You'll have to back up anything you want, make the changes to
the partitions, format them, and then restore what you backed up.

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 If Jesus lives, does this mean no more Easter holiday?

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:10:09 +0100, Sandy Brownlee wibbled...

> > Apart from the Amiga/Amino takeover, events over on the Netconnect list
> > could result in Active being taken to Trading Standards. 
> Sorry for being ignorant, but uh?
> What is this all about, then?

The edition of Microdot (the mail/newsreader) supplied with NC*2* is not
Y2K compliant, which means that...

a) everyone's postings are dated dd/mm/100, often putting them at the
bottom of people's mail folders
b) Many news servers will not accept postings from MDII, as the year
'100' is too old.

Active/Vapor haven't made any move to produce a version for NC2 users,
although a bugfix was released to NC3 users last week. They are aware of
the problem; a big thread has been going on all week, yet nothing has
been said, and so we are lead to believe that we've paid for software
which isn't fit for it's purpose, something which trading standards
could be brought in about.

Of course, if a bugfix does turn up, TS won't have to become involved.

-- 
The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk ---------------------------------
Episode 4764 - Morse and Lewis investigate their lack of Christmas Dinner,
with the help of Professor Heinz Wolff.
-------------------------------- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble

semprin-@robgoody.demon.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41512


- Date.....


Steven Holmes

Hi Everybody,

> Has anyone used the HDToolbox program after installing OS3.5?
> I would like to change the partition sizes (HD2..HD4) after =

> formatting them first.  I noticed that a little window comes =

> up saying that I will lose all data!
> I don't want to make the mistake of losing all the data on
> all the partitions, including the one that OS3.5 is stored on!

   It should tell you which partitions are effected, and don't worry, onl=
y the partitions you change will be wiped, if you keep the others the sam=
e then they'll be fine :)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166        =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
I want to sing, to sing my song, I want to live, in a world where I'll be=
 strong
I want to live, I will survive, And I believe, that it won't be very long=
,
-- Travis

Hello Kevin

On 05-Jan-00, you wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:39:09 +0000, Samuel Byford (sam@biffordyoungest.=
u-net.com) wrote:
> =

>> ............Now all I have to do is get rid of the English Boyfriend..=
=2E.............
> =

> Or become the English boyfriend?
> =

That's what I meant.  Not dating the boyfriend - Ben!

Putting words into my mouth, whatever next!


Regards
-- =

Bifford the Youngest
(Sam Byford)
Visit my site:
  http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com
 ICQ: 52983236
 IRC:  IRCNet on AmIRC or Pub
        BeyondIRC on HarryHomers

> > ....all the partitions, including the one that OS3.5 is stored on!
> 
> As far as I know, you have no choice as to whether you lose the data
on the
> drives or not. You'll have to back up anything you want, make the
changes to
> the partitions, format them, and then restore what you backed up.

Better get out all those old floppies :(
That or buy another hard-drive!

Thanks,

Nick.

> Better get out all those old floppies :(
> That or buy another hard-drive!

Of course, it only applies to any partitions which you are changing. If you
don't change a partitions size, then it won't be destroyed. As pointed out by
my kind assistant, Andrew Crowe :))

Ahem...

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 Political Correctness? Blow me.

Hi Everybody,

> Just got a question on fitting an IDE 2.5 "  Hard Drive to a very early=

> model A600. The kickstart version is 2.04,  37.299 and I am totally una=
ble
> to get my hard drive to work. I was wondering if there is a patch avail=
abe
> to get it recognised or if I have to get KS 2.05, 37.350

   Ok, there should be no problem getting to working with an A600, so:

1. You're sure the HD and cables etc. do work?

2. The jumpers are set right on the drive?

3. You've done HDtoolbox right?


   Also, in what way doesn't the hd work? Does it spin up, or doesn't hdt=
ool box find it?

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166        =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Actor Alan Hale Snr played the role of Little John in three
seperate screen versions of the Robin Hood tale over 28 years.
--The Miscellanea Digest

Worm Wars 5.21 has been released today. If you're still using a version
from the AFCDs then we suggest you upgrade.

It's available from our website (below). It will appear on Aminet
(games/misc/WormWars.lha) in a few days.

Don't forget, we also run the Amiga Qualifications Working Group from
our website, and we also have our utility Report+ 1.1 available for
download.

James Jacobs
CEO
Amigan Software
Canberra, Australia

http://users.interact.net.au/~cjaj/amigan.html
james_jacobs@altavista.net

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:12:54PM +1200, jeremy spring wrote:
> Just got a question on fitting an IDE 2.5 "  Hard Drive to a very early
> model A600. The kickstart version is 2.04,  37.299 and I am totally unable
> to get my hard drive to work. I was wondering if there is a patch availabe
> to get it recognised or if I have to get KS 2.05, 37.350

I think 37.299 is missing IDE support - if you boot off floppy and type

version scsi.device

does anything happen? Your best bet is probably to scavange a 2.05 ROM
from somewhere.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

hi
can some one tell me how i can get my amiga 600 on to the internet,
i know i have to upgrade it a bit but i;m going to use parts from other
p.c's
it is just a stanerd 600 i have done no upgrades to it but it does have
a little problem, it keep's finding 4 drive's when there is only one
pluged in,
i'm going to use an old 500 meg hard drive from an old 486 laptop and i
do have a 28.8 us robitics modem for it, 

any help in this will help me a lot


thanks 

PW> can some one tell me how i can get my amiga 600 on to the internet,
PW> i know i have to upgrade it a bit but i;m going to use parts from other
PW> p.c's
PW> it is just a stanerd 600 i have done no upgrades to it but it does have
PW> a little problem, it keep's finding 4 drive's when there is only one
PW> pluged in,

Get yourself either a Whippet or an accelerator and a Surf Squirrel, then
get a high speed modem. Then get Miami, YAM, a web browser, an FTP program,
etc....

I recommend the Whippet, as the SCSI port on the Surf Squirrel doesn't work
on the A600 [with very few exceptions].

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I just got a TekMagic 060 accelerator for my A4000, and well...I can't get
it to work.

I have a Revision B motherboard, 18MB RAM, PIV+Concierto, GVP I/O Extender,
DKB Spitfire, an internal SCSI AND IDE hard drive [one each, that is]...

Problem is 1) I didn't get a manual with the TekMagic, and 2) Computer won't
boot when I have the accelerator in. I've noticed a few things:

-- Unless I have a SIMM [it's a 32MB double-sided] plugged into the far left
SIMM slot on the accelerator, my caps lock light stays lit and will NOT
unlight. If the SIMM is either not plugged in at all or in a different
slot, the caps lock light stays on.

-- The caps lock light also stays on if the oscillator is either in the
wrong way or completely out...

-- I doubt this is important, but I didn't attach the SCSI to the TekMagic.

Well....any suggestions? I put the A3640 back in and I'm working fine, but I
really want my 060 to work!

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Hi!

> When did the 'u' key move on my keyboard?
> 
> I seem uncapable of finding it from a funny angle
> without looking any
> more. Very annoying.
> 
> Any ideas?

What do you mean by "move", do you mean to a different
key, or physically move?  If it's just to a different
key you must have a Keymap for a different country
installed, if it's physically moved the plastic
"plunger" (for want of a better description) must have
snapped, this happened with my "J" key, went really
wobbly, I just opened the keyboard with a little
screwdriver and took a plastic-plunger out of the F9
key (or some other little-used key) and swapped them
around.

DAN
> 

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> semprin-@robgoody.demon.co.uk wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41512
> - Date.....
> Steven Holmes

I would have voted, but there's no "I'm happy with my Blizzard 603e already
thanks" (But there was a "I'm happy with my 68k")

> Just a quick question. When are White Knight re-opening. All I get is
"White
> Knight Technologies is now closed for the Christmas and New Year
period".
> Arrrgh!! I want my Blizzard 1240

And me for my BVision! Gah!

Paul

> Support the Amiga, or support a small third world country?

Easy answer; Amga!

> >You also using PFS3 on a Seagate SCSI3 drive hooked up to a CS-PPC
> 233/060?
> 
> Erm... nope?  Quantum Fireball on an internal 1200 interface.  Why I
> never shelled out for that SCSI interface on the BPPC is a mystery to
> me...

I'm starting to think the same too. Damn CPU-intensive IDE!

Paul

> 
> > [Amiga traders more expensive]
> > while I went to Staples and got the same model for less than $100...
> > 
> > If something goes wrong though, will these places offer support for
an
> > Amiga system? Probably not.
> 
> With something like a Zip drive it shouldn't be a problem - if it
> doesn't work, it doesn't work, and they wouldn't check it anyway.

I suppose...

> > Paul
> 
> Paul C, note the C

Maybe I should put "Paul L" to avoid confusion!

Paul "L"

If your using an Micronik Zorro board then it will be that which is
causing the problem. Read below and then make a decision to phone
Eyetech.
Has anyone noticed why no-one is selling the infintiv range anymore?
...reason below.
My A1200 was at Blittersoft for 7 months being fixed after being
damaged by DHL and then problems with my 1260 card not working with the
Zorro board completely dead. Plus on top of that they could not get the
parts in time. In the end (over a year later) I had it shipped to
Eyetech whom are kindly fixing my machine. Just waiting for the Tower
to be made which will be released as a unit with the new Zorro IV
board. I have asked Eyetech to take out Micronik Zorro board as it has
caused so much problems, they are replacing this with the Zorro IV
which is 100% Apollo compatible.
Plus they test my machine fully before it arrives back.
I'm not bothered by Zorro IV speed as I already own a A4000, plus
A4000's are cheap secondhand anyway.
Micronik don't sell many products anymore as the infinitiv tower range
is cheap and nasty, even with complete strong packaging shipped first
class with DHL mine got damaged. Anyone considering upgrading their
A1200 then buy the towers from Eyetech (or the power tower from Power
Computing) as they are first class when it comes to customer service.

Hope this advice helps someone!

Erol

wesley potter <wezz-@currantbun.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38621
> Hello,
> 
> After spending all bloody weekend trying to get this damn machine to
> recognise my nice new(ish) Picasso 2 it turns out its my sodding
> accelerator card causing the problems. The card is an Apollo 1230
mkIII
> with two simm slots from Eyetech. Any help would be gratefully
recieved
> 
> Kind regards
> 

get the adaptor from Blittersoft if it is a parrell port one.

instructions to setup drive:-

How do I setup my Zip drive on an Amiga?

Iomega does not provide support for the Amiga Operating System or for
the SCSI board and its associated software. If problems are encountered
that are outside the scope of this document, contact your SCSI board
manufacturer. The Zip parallel drive will not work on the Amiga computer

Installation... 

Turn the power off to all devices in your system. 
Connect the SCSI cable from the external SCSI connector on the rear of
the Zip drive to the external SCSI connector on the SCSI adapter card. 
Enable termination on the first and last devices connected to the SCSI
chain and disable termination to any other devices. 
Set the SCSI ID. Make sure that all devices connected to the ribbon
cable have different SCSI ID numbers. A switch found on the rear of the
drive sets the SCSI ID. 
Set the SCSI card to bootable by jumping the boot jumper on the card.
This must be done even when you do not intend to boot from the drive.
If you are not sure how to set this jumper try the card the way it is
(cards usually ship with bootability enabled), otherwise contact the
card manufacturer. Booting from the Zip drive is not recommended. 
The Zip drive should now be installed.
Formatting the Disk...
Formatting destroys any information on the disk. Before performing a
format on a disk make sure you have a backup copy of any information on
the disk you may need. 

Turn the power on to the computer and to the Zip drive. If you have an
external Zip drive, turn the drive power on before you power on the
computer. 
Insert the Zip disk into the drive. 
Locate HDToolBox on your system or refer to your Amiga documentation
for installation. HDToolBox should be in your tools directory under
Workbench: (HD0:). 
Select HDToolBox menu, choose Menu and then select Information. 
Once inside the Icon Information window, click on New and enter the
SCSI card adapter driver as shown: 
For Commodore cards enter SCSI_DEVICE_NAME= scsi.device. 
For GVP cards enter SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=gvpscsi.device. 
For more than one card from the same manufacturer enter
SCSI_DEVICE_NAME= 2nd.gvpscsi.device.
If you don't know the name of the device driver, contact the
manufacturer of your SCSI card. 
Press Return to enter the device driver name into the Tool Types window
and then choose Save. 
Run HDToolBox by double clicking on the HDToolBox Icon. The Zip drive
light will now flicker for a minute while HDToolBox scans the disk. 
Choose Continue if HDToolBox warns you of changes. 
You should now be at the main HDToolBox screen. Select the Zip drive
from the window under Hard Drives in System. The Zip drive can be
recognized by the SCSI ID number found under Address. The first time a
format is performed, status will be Unknown. 
Select Change Drive Type, Define new drive type, and then Read
Configuration From Drive.
Iomega Drive and AmigaDOS Operation Notes...
AmigaDOS and Removability: 
If removable disks have different volume names, AmigaDOS may not be
able to recognize a new disk. To avoid this problem, give all removable
disks used in a specific drive the same volume name. At the very least,
give all related removable disks used in the save drive the same volume
name. If you must use disks with different volume names, you may need
to reboot your computer after changing disks. 

Partitioning and Removable Disks: 
Partitioning of any type of removable disk is not recommended. AmigaDOS
defaults to multiple partitions on larger disks. Partitioning of
removable disks can cause problems with changing disks and keeping
partition sizes synchronized from disk to disk. 

Disks and Low-Level Formats: 
All Zip disks have spare tracks available for use during low-level
formats. If a disk begins generating read/write errors, a low-level
format will replace any bad sectors on the disk with the available
spare sectors. This process assures an error free disk over the life of
the Zip disk. Low-level formats can be performed using the HDToolBox
utility.


"patrick wesseling" <p_wesselin-@hotmail.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41273
> Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga
500/600? I
> think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.
> 
> Patrick Wesseling

FYI

"erol ismael" <eismae-@netscape.net> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41388
> 
> If you have a working A590HD I would be willing to pay shipping to the
> UK.
> Can you let me know how much and we can arrange details later.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Erol
> 
> 
> 
> stephen <amiganu-@iweb.net.au> wrote: 
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41342
> > (Disengaging lurk mode)
> > 
> > Is there anybody out there (preferabley Australian) that would be
> interested
> > in a couple of old A500's plus a couple of 1084S monitors and an
> A590? The
> > disc drive on one of the 500's doesn't want to work and I know
nothing
> > about electronics to pull it apart and tinker with it. (This from
> someone who 
> > breaks out into a cold sweat just changing the clock battery on my
> > accelerator) There's even a book on AmigaBasic included.
> > 
> > All this for no charge. :) They're no good to me, as I said I
> wouldn't know
> > how to tinker with them. They were given to me by a well meaning
> friend
> > who know's I like the Amiga.
> > 
> > I said Australian, mainly because there ain't no way, no how _I'm_
> paying to
> > to ship them overseas. :)
> > 
> > If anybody's interested it'd be easier to mail me off list, I get
the
> AFb as
> > the digest and trying to read through a weeks worth gives me a
> headache.
> > 
> > Well, I've had my say.
> > 
> > Stephen
> > 
> > (Re-engaging lurk mode)
> > -- 
> > http://www.iweb.net.au/~amiganut/
> > 
> 

> > Failing that, has anyone got any icons
> > from Amiga apps that feature a roladex
> > so that I can remind myself what the HELL
> > they look like (exactly) and draw a neat
> > Glowicons style one? Thanks!!
> 
> I have a bit of structured clip-art which is nicely detailed. 
> I can bitmap it if you prefer. Name your format and max file
> size.

Bitmap it, any format that PSP can use, any size you like
(above 300 pixels wide would be nice!)

Thanks J!

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:26 -0000, Sealey, M. wibbled...
> 
> > What's been happening while I've been away?
> 
> Apart from the Amiga/Amino takeover, events over on the 
> Netconnect list could result in Active being taken to
> Trading Standards. Which is interesting.

With regards to Amiga/Amino, it's not like I didn't know
anyway, but I'm talking more about "what's happened on
this list" more than in general..

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Computer Centre
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Hi semprini@robgoody.demon.co.uk,

> Power Computing has the licence to re-manufacture phase5 PPC cards...so
> far, they are only taking up the CyberStorm PPC accelerator and the
> C/BVision graphics cards...currently, there are no plans to manufacture
> Blizzard 603/603+ cards :(

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!

Cancelled.

All the best,
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a plane, with a bomb, demanding to be taken to Luton.

Hi Peter,

> can some one tell me how i can get my amiga 600 on to the internet,
> i know i have to upgrade it a bit but i;m going to use parts from other
> p.c's
> it is just a stanerd 600 i have done no upgrades to it but it does have
> a little problem, it keep's finding 4 drive's when there is only one
> pluged in,
> i'm going to use an old 500 meg hard drive from an old 486 laptop and i
> do have a 28.8 us robitics modem for it, 

You'll need to explain a little more. What do you mean by "four drives when
there is only one plugged in"? Also, to effectively make use of everything
the net has to offer, you'll need at least Workbench 3. However, for email,
telnet and news you could probably get by with 2.05. You will, however,
need a hard drive and at least some extra ram.

All the best,
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Hey Peter,

> > can some one tell me how i can get my amiga 600 on
> to the internet,
> > i know i have to upgrade it a bit but i;m going to
> use parts from other
> > p.c's

Just make sure you have a decent sized hard disk and a
few megs of RAM, A600 upgrades are dirt cheap these
days, getting 2 megs of Chip RAM and 4 megs of FAST
ram should do you fine.

> to it but it does have
> > a little problem, it keep's finding 4 drive's when
> there is only one
> > pluged in,

Ah that old chestnut, looks like there's a problem
with the way your floppy drive is hooked up, this
happened on my old A500, turned out two pins on the
internal floppy connector were shorting out, try
getting a new cable.

> > i'm going to use an old 500 meg hard drive from an
> old 486 laptop and i
> > do have a 28.8 us robitics modem for it, 

No probs, just do a Workbench format on the hard disk
and get the correct serial wire/driver.  

If you want to get on the web, do a hunt around for an
old version of AMosaic (V2.1 I think) which works with
Kick 2.0 and Workbench 2.1 and 2.04 I think.

Good luck!

Regards

DAN WOOD
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Hi

> > Yes I agree, it's like watching paint dry, it's had that 'design'
since
> > 1997 :(
> 
> I like it; it doesn't take half an hour to load and decode the images
> for one thing, it doesn't rely on JS for links when <a href> does the
> job just as well, it's quick and easy to navigate...

That is a valid point but it still looks dull, and it has bad
connatations on PC users because:  they think the design is old
fashioned and simple because Amigas have web browsers which can't
handle anything more complex.  It wasn't until they saw Voyager 3 pre 5
(now i use 3.0a) running with jscript, and shockwave flash that they
realised that Amiga browsers were actually pretty good!  :)

Nick

Hi,

You didn't have to wait two months (almost exactly bar one day!) for an
Ateo Bus and Pixel 64!!!  (The first one was faulty)  I'm sure Ian will
be back soon, he's a good chap, he won't leave you stranded.... :)

Nick

Does anyone have the specs on the Microvitec 1438?

I need to know what is it's highest resolution and frequency, etc, etc
Like:
resolutions and scan rates
ie
800x600@60Hz

Thanks

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Hi's,

I've been trying to get Deuteros to work on my A1200 using degraders and
the like, but everything I have done has not helped. So, does anyone
know if there is a way of emulating an A500 on an A1200 030, rather than
degrading to it?

cheers,

-curry

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  James Jacobs <james_jacobs@altavista.net>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  03-Jan-00 21:42:44
 Re:  [afb] Idea regarding AWD

Hi James,

> I am sure that out of the thousands of people who have visited CUCUG's
> Amiga Web Directory in last few months there are a few who would have
> saved or cached most of the pages?
>
> If you have any of these pages could you please get in contact with me.
> It might be possible to set up some kind of snapshot of the AWD as
> at December 1999.
>
> This would remain useful for several months even if it were not
> updated.
>
> Can anyone help?

Yes, I can help.  I have just one word that you need to think about:

"copyright"

Bye,
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 By:  Peter Lewis <ultrasbm@hotmail.com>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 11:30:47
 Re:  [afb] Amino?

Hi Peter,

> Although not having the OS patents are a bit of a mystery - why would
> they want the Custom Chip Patents? They are slow, out of date, and to
> be honest, quite poo really.

It depends on what you intend to do with them...  Sure for whizzy bangy
graphics, they're a bit slow but, if you're talking about adding a few
nice looking features to a TV's on-screen display, then they're perfect
for the job - they can do a quick medium resolution image, with a
moderate amount of colours - more than adequate for this task, in fact
anything more than that probably isn't noticeable on the average TV set
(the screen is too lousy).

But then that's probably not their real interest, the patents will cover
more than just current circuits.  The theory of "how" they operate
probably has more tangible uses, and may provide a good starting point
to design research in newer devices.

We might think the patent of something so old and simple (by current
standard) is not worth much, but that's not how it works (imagine being
able to patent fire!).  Companies often patent things just to limit the
options to their opposition.  There's even a patent on a particular
breed of laboratory mouse.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Paul Laycock <amipal@yahoo.com>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  05-Jan-00 01:50:31
 Re:  [afb] Re: Voting Results: Which OS for the Amiga? (4/12/99)

Hi Paul,

>> 1. Linux			1
>> 2. QNX Neutrino		7
>> 3. AmigaOS port (OS4.0?)	69

> Wow! I always thought ppl were in for a change to the OS (not me). I
> wonder how this may change when ppl get hold over their G4s with QNX
> OS supplied...

I finally got around to trying out that QNX demo on a floppy.  While it
looked nice, and seemed to work okay, it wasn't any way to judge an OS.

I doubt any of us could really make a judgement on an OS we couldn't
see.  QNX was the least likeliest that we could see, and I'm sure most
of us haven't had any way of trying LINUX either.

I'm sure most of us like "the way" the Amiga works, and would like a new
computer that's fairly similar.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Will <wills-place@engineer.com>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 02:09:45
 Re:  [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

Hi Will,

>>> :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard
>>> harddisk to validate more times than PC owners have had to
>>> reinstall Windows.

>>The answer to that is change your filesystem to something like PFS

> Shouldn't have to - the operating system should work properly as
> supplied.

I agree.  And for what it's worth, I've always used FFS, and don't have
a problem with it.  I think that I've only had 3 drive invalidations in
7 years.  One from Thor refusing to abort writing to a drive when it was
too full (downloading news).  One from Term doing the same thing (the
capture log).  And once when an apparently hung program suddenly decided
to write to a drive jsut at the moment I gave up and started to reboot.

Bye,
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 By:  Ian Shurmer <shurm@messages.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 04:45:40
 Re:  [afb] Re: Amiga Web Directory

Hi Ian,

> Hi kids!

>> > > > Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD?
>> Perhaps we can all

...[huge snip]....

> I`ve got about 3 different accounts worth of web space (about 50MB in
> total I think. maybe more) that I don't have time to use - you're
> welcome to that if you want....

Maybe you can use them to store all that HTML garbage you just quoted.

Geez, the level of quoting is getting stupid on here, these last few
days that I've noticed.  Quoting entire messages, and quoting the most
hideously unreadable badly formatted text.

Edit your messages before replying.  And if you can't be bothered
reformatting crappily formatted text, then delete the whole damn lot.

>> crap crap crap
crap crap cra
>>>>> crap >>> crap>.>>> crap 
crap carp
>>crap >crap
crap crap crap crap crap crap

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Hi Tudor

According to the manual:

The series 13 range of autoscanning monitors are suitable for use over a
wide range of horizontal and vertical scan rates; including 15-40kHz,
30-40kHz and 30-50kHz horizontal rate and 45-100Hz vertical rate depending
on the particular model type.

I own a 1438 myself and have succesfully used at 800*600*50Hz ( or was it
60Hz, I do not remember ), with my PC. I you go higher it will freakout.

Regards
	Steen



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Emne: [afb] Microvitec 1438 Monitor


Does anyone have the specs on the Microvitec 1438?

I need to know what is it's highest resolution and frequency, etc, etc
Like:
resolutions and scan rates
ie
800x600@60Hz

Thanks

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 By:  Sean Courtney <dauber@wallnet.com>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 03:30:27
 Re:  [afb] Re: [afb] V

Hi Sean,

>>Is the last version of V stable ?
>>I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.

> I've been using the demo version of 2.1, and I've never had a crash
> from it; worst that happened was that some Javascript image rollovers
> wouldn't work 100%...

JavaScript is going to be worse than HTML for compatibility between
different browsers.  It's functions are more dependent on which browser
it runs on than anything else you'll try and look at in a web browser.

Bye,
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 By:  Patrick Wesseling <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>
 To:  AFB <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 03:09:49
 Re:  [afb] External ZIP drive on Amiga

Hi Patrick,

> Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga 500/600?
> I think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.

Yes, but it depends on you having the right interface and OS.

I have used the SCSI Zip on an 1.3 A500 with an A590 SCSI interface, and
it worked, but you have to treat it as fixed media (i.e. you have to have
the disk in when you boot, and you can't remove it).

I've also used it on a 2.0 A500 with an A590 SCSI interface, and that
worked fine, and the the Zip disk was usable as removable media.

Bye,
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 By:  Andrew Gillen <andyroo@globalnet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 22:08:29
 Re:  [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

Hi Andrew,

> Oh before I go, has anyone any solutions for 'fixing' a Zorro
> daughterboard? Mine doesn't always work on boot-up, and I suspect it's
> due to the connectors not lining up correctly, ie the tracks in the
> slot it connects into do not always meet. At the momenet I am forced
> to take the case off and jiggle the  board about a bit (left right up
> down etc) and randomly power up to see if it is working. Any
> suggestions would be welcome :)

That's been a standard sort of fault in TVs that used edge connectors,
for many years.  The standard fix is:  remove the card, scrub card and
slot with toothbrush and *unpolluted* alcohol (not meths, get ethanol,
or surgical spirit), let it dry, and insert card properly, and fix into
place (in the proper place, even if this means doing some metal work to
ensure that the card is fixed properly into place, not fixed improperly
out of place).

Sometime you have to retension the edge connector so it connects
properly with the board.  This is a fiddly task, either using a tool, or
a needle, and you can wreck the connector if not careful, or be stuck
with a connector that it's impossible to get behind the pins to bend
them at all.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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Is there any way that I can use a peecee modem on a miggy? It's a PCI 56k
modem, and the miggy in question is an A1200 with 10megs ram (8 Fast), wb
3.1, 500meg HD and a CD-rom drive. It's all in an EZ-Tower, so both power
and space shouldn't be a problem. It's just figuring out how to connect PCI
devices to a miggy... I don't need a Zorro port jobbie, or anything do I? In
which case it's probably cheaper to get a serial/parallel modem instead...
btw - which one's faster?

Cheers,
Drew Green
=======================
Drew.Green@btinternet.com

Hi Tudor,

> Does anyone have the specs on the Microvitec 1438?

> I need to know what is it's highest resolution and frequency, etc, etc
> Like:
> resolutions and scan rates
> ie
> 800x600@60Hz

It's a crappy monitor, I don't reckon you'll even get that much, but you
should be able to work it out for yourself - it's max frequency is 38kHz...

All the best,
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 By:  Will <wills-place@engineer.com>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 05:35:33
 Re:  [afb] Re:  Re: V

Hi Will,

> I think one of my problems with IBrowse was their attitude.  I
> received an update which stopped the browser printing and I spoke to
> a HiSoft rep at the (1997 I think,) Amiga show.  "Oh, we didn't have
> time to check it before the deadline." was what I got.  Some service.

I find that about quite a few Amiga software authors, they're damn
arrogant - it's your system that's at fault; stop running patches; all
patches are hacks; we need to be able to exploit the OSs undocumented
features without someone else fixing them up; it's okay for us to
produce non-standard interfaces; a commonly useful and wanted feature is
completly unimportant to them, despite there being many (external) ARexx
scripts floating around to do this wanted feature, they don't see there
being a need to write it into the program, so they won't implement it....

And the list goes on forever.

> I have NEVER been able to get the SSL encryption to work, after a
> while I just gave up.

Hmm, I have got SSL to work with IBrowse (using Miami's SSL, that is).
But any browser can come unstuck when the site you're connecting to
doesn't use a SSL scheme your system supports, or insists on only
letting Internet Exploiter or Nutscrape use their site.

> I also paid out seven quid for an update book which turned out to be 
> virtually the same as the manual supplied with the original package.

Try the Scala manual, it's three different versions in one, with the
newer versions added pages at the front.  To understand it, you have to
read the old instructions, then read all the newer ones to work out
what's changed.  Which is bloody intollerable when you've paid $400 for
the software.

> Internet Explorer is great, it will run Macromedia Flash (shockwave,)
> full Java with no problems at all, and with the free plug ins will
> display any graphics you will encounter on the net including ART by
> AOL.  It will also play every video and audio format.  As a new format
> comes out so an update is made available - generally free.  There is
> just no comparison, I remember reading a couple of years ago a comment
> in either AFormat or CU Amiga (can`t remember which,) that it was a
> good idea to use a PC for the web and the Amiga for other things.

I tend to find the speed of the IBuM programs to be the main benefit, I
find all the other frilly bits a liability.  It's taken me several days
to work out how to remove something that downloaded from a site - to add
extra functionality to their web site.

The bloody thing forces their site as your home site, and is completely
unchangeable no matter how many times you re-set your home site URI,
it replaces your e-mail signature with their advert, and is not
uninstallable.

Nor are you given any indication of what it does when it's going to
install itself.  You've no idea what function it gives you, (so you
could decide whether to bother with it), you're not told whether it
was essential to view their site (like whether it were some flash style
of viewer applet), or whether you're just adding something unneccessary.

I've had to go ploughing through the registry, the various batch files,
and trying to identify all the various stupidly (and uselessly) named
executable files in the Windows directory.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> 
> What I want to know is, do both girls know about each other, or is
Peter
> being a very naughty boy?
> 
Well, personal opinion here, the first doesn't know about the 2nd one -
but the second one knows about the 1st one - And she's quite happy with
it because I say that I am splitting up with the first one...

Oh I am a good liar! :o)
I could work for Gateway! :P

Pete.

PS I have a 48x Creative Labs IDE CDROM Drive aswell...that ALSO put a
smile on me face so that might of influenced it aswell...

Hi Nick,

> You didn't have to wait two months (almost exactly bar one day!) for
an
> Ateo Bus and Pixel 64!!!  (The first one was faulty)  I'm sure Ian
will
> be back soon, he's a good chap, he won't leave you stranded.... :)

I've been waiting alright; since July in fact!

Paul

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 By:  Alex Furmanski <a.furmanski@virgin.net>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  03-Jan-00 09:06:19
 Re:  [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

Hi Alex,

> I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard
> harddisk to validate more times than PC owners have had to
> reinstall Windows.

I'd refute that.  Only occasionally has some program (written by a
complete git) trashed my hard drive (it's even survived, without any
problems, the occasional powerfailure during write access), but I've a
friend who re-installs windows several times a month (after completely
re-formatting the drive too).

And I can think of more people who've had to do this sort of malarkey
with their IBuMs, than their Amigas.  From everything I've seen, anyone
who's repeatedly getting drive invalidations on their Amiga, either has
a knackered drive itself, or inadequate system power.

Bye,
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Hi all,

The afb has now been running for more than a year, so I was wondering wha=
t
you thought of it now? We've got more than 850 subscribers, the volume
seems to have finally settled down somewhat and people are reasonably
on-topic.

Do you think:

=B7 I should be harsher with off-topicality, or softer, perhaps?
=B7 We need more "stuff" to talk about?
=B7 I should be on here less?

Let me know your thoughts, and I'll try to make afb just as good as you w=
ant
it to be...

BTW, we're coming up on the time to have another afb page written. Who's
volunteering this issue? :)

All the best,
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Amiga Format? Go to http://www.egroups.com/list/afb-announce

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Roy Leith <r.m.leith@btinternet.com>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  04-Jan-00 08:23:43
 Re:  [afb] Re:  V

Hi Roy,

> I use V3 rather than IE or NS Communicator because I can be on the net
> and browsing before  the PC has got past the WIN95 splash screen.  The
> only thing I can't use it for is afb, for which I use buggy Ibrowse
> 2.1.

I tried to use IE to access AFB, or more to the point, my space on
egroups, and it wouldn't let me log in.  Yet, at the same time (so it
wasn't a fault at the server at this moment in time), I could dial in on
the Amiga, and access it fine through IBrowse.

I've no idea what the problem is.  I've had trouble with IBrowse in the
past, and then it suddenly worked, and I've not been able to pin it
down.  I don't know if the password is different from what I wrote down,
as you can't read the cookie information in IBrowse (I've never been
able to get egroups do do what I want, it's just pure luck as to whether
it will work or not).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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Hi,

Simon Jenkins posted over Christmas that he wanted to know how Zorro III
busboards worked.

They have a standard fast slot for an A3000/A4000-style accelerator which=

must be used if you want Zorro III. However, it's far cheaper to buy
yourself a secondhand A4000 or A3000 than lash out =A3400 on something th=
at
a) won't give you the full speed of Zorro III and b) almost certainly won=
't
do it as successfully anyway...

All the best,
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available as 'Bi' ones

Hi 

I have been in Australia for the last nine months so I have a few dozen
questions
if anyone can help ?!

What has happened to Uk Aminet?  I cannot seem to get on?  The site at
Germany is OK tho'

Is OS3.5 worth getting?  I am using 3.0 at the moment and am doing
fine, so
is it worth the hassle ?

Cheers

Allen

On 05-Jan-00 Pekka Sippola wrote:

> Get a 060 + SCSI3! It takes 2 minutes for 1.7 GB partition ;-)...
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Zipper

Not with MY monthly income... although I will happily accept donations.
^_^

Before any type on SCSI, on my hardware wish list first comes a graphics
card, then a fast serial, then a soundcard (although these last two
seem to be mutually exclusive,A1200 having only one clock port...)

- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 07:21:22AM +0900, Tim Seifert wrote:

> > This would remain useful for several months even if it were not
> > updated.
> > Can anyone help?
> Yes, I can help.  I have just one word that you need to think about:
> "copyright"

yes that is an issue.

Check 
http://www.cucug.org//amiga/aminews/2000/000101-cucug.html 
and at the bottom it says

"The Amiga Web Directory", the Amiga Web Directory logo, "Agnes" and the
Agnes character are service marks of the Champaign-Urbana Computer Users
Group, Inc. All of the textual descriptions associated with the links
shown as well as the collection of links are property of CUCUG. Copying or
unauthorized mirroring of material from the Amiga Web Directory is
prohibited.

l8r
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:24:11 +0000, Ben Vost wibbled=2E=2E=2E

Apart from a big bar of chocolate and some Cherry Tango, y'mean?

> =B7 I should be harsher with off-topicality, or softer, perhaps?

Nope; it's just right at the moment, although it'd be nice if some of
the longer off-topic threads were killed earlier=2E

> =B7 We need more "stuff" to talk about?

Why? Do you have a magic wand to make things happen in the Amiga market?
:)

> =B7 I should be on here less?

No; it's good to have people who know what they're talking about on
here, not just us lot who only hear second-hand rumours=2E
=20
> BTW, we're coming up on the time to have another afb page written=2E Who'=
s
> volunteering this issue? :)

Bwah=2E

--=20
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Episode 4764 - Morse and Lewis investigate their lack of Christmas Dinner,
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ibble

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41562
> Hi all,

Hi Ben :)

> Do you think:
> 
> =B7 I should be harsher with off-topicality, or softer, perhaps?

Keep it as is, If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

> =B7 We need more "stuff" to talk about?

The more the merrier, I do wish though that people would change the
subject heading when they change the discussion. Grr!

> =B7 I should be on here less?

As a matter of fact, if you were on here less it wouldn't be the same,
we should have more AF staffers on here. Where has evil Rich gone?

To me the the AFB is the AFB because the AF staff pop up from time to
time.
- otherwise it may as well be another discussion list. 

> Let me know your thoughts, and I'll try to make afb just as good as
you want
> it to be...

Just done so.

> BTW, we're coming up on the time to have another afb page written.
Who's
> volunteering this issue? :)

I would love to do one on the retailers poll, but as you can see my
english grandma isn't up to magazine standard :(

Anyhow, keep it going as is and crack down on people who change the
subject without changing the subject heading Grr! Again.

Regards

Mikey C

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:22:02 -0000, Drew Green (Drew.Green@btinternet.com) wrote:
> Is there any way that I can use a peecee modem on a miggy? It's a PCI 56k
> modem

and thus won't work.  you need an external modem ...

Kev

-- 
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On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:22:02PM -0000, Drew Green wrote:
> Is there any way that I can use a peecee modem on a miggy? It's a PCI 56k
> modem, and the miggy in question is an A1200 with 10megs ram (8 Fast), wb
> 3.1, 500meg HD and a CD-rom drive. It's all in an EZ-Tower, so both power
> and space shouldn't be a problem. It's just figuring out how to connect PCI
> devices to a miggy... I don't need a Zorro port jobbie, or anything do I? In

Q. Does your Amiga have PCI slots?
A. No

Therefore you cannot use it. Unless you wait for a boxer or a PCI
Bridgeboard to come out :)

> which case it's probably cheaper to get a serial/parallel modem instead...
> btw - which one's faster?

Generally external as PCI ones generally use the PC processor to do some of
the work. The great thing about PCI modems is that you don't have to worry
about getting the right cable, right transmission speed, etc

l8r
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:43:24 -0800, Peter Lewis (ultrasbm@hotmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > What I want to know is, do both girls know about each other, or is Peter
> > being a very naughty boy?
> > 
> Well, personal opinion here, the first doesn't know about the 2nd one -
> but the second one knows about the 1st one - And she's quite happy with
> it because I say that I am splitting up with the first one...

Tut tut tut ...

> Oh I am a good liar! :o)
> I could work for Gateway! :P

Would she be as happy if she knew you AREN'T breaking up with the first
one?  If that's the case, send her here and i'll cheer her up  ;-)

Kev

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Ben V. wrote like a man with a will to keep living:

> It's a crappy monitor, I don't reckon you'll even get that much, but you
> should be able to work it out for yourself - it's max frequency is 38kHz...

Yeh, but I have myself a Picasso II for my other A4000T (a long story) and
it has passthru for normal modes and the 1438 handles everything.

800x600 will be fine for most and yet the 1438 will still allow me to use
AGA without a s/d :)

Unless I can track down another PIV (chance'll be a fine thing)

l8r

ps Swagging?

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From: Neil Bullock <tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net>

> Actually, I probably shouldn't have posted what I did. I didn't actually
> realise I was replying to something on afb :) I thought it was afb-ot :)
> Oops...

Oh, ok, sorry folks :)

>  My train of thought?  It derailed!

^^^ random ?

Tom U

"xatiminey" <xatimine-@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41546
> Hi's,
> 
> I've been trying to get Deuteros to work on my A1200 using degraders
and
> the like, but everything I have done has not helped. So, does anyone
> know if there is a way of emulating an A500 on an A1200 030, rather
than
> degrading to it?
> 
There are both PPC and 68K ports of UAE available for the Amiga,
unfortunately
they don't even reach A500 speed on a PPC system so I'd be surprised if
you
could do anything usefull with it on an 030.
Have you tried searching for a jst or whdload installer, these will
allow you to 
run older games straigh from hd.

> cheers,
> 
> -curry
> 
> -- 
> "I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

On 05-Jan-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>> ............Now all I have to do is get rid of the English
>> Boyfriend................

> So you swing both ways do you Sam? What have you got against your
> boyfriend? :)

Oh don't be such a big thilly!. I think it'th FABULOUS that he's
experimenting... ;)

He's Samantha at the weekends

Mash - straight
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Under the Grandstand,   by Seymour Butts.

On 04-Jan-00, Jani Mkitalo wrote:

>> same thing, it would be the other way round. plus validating a
>> drive(haven't done that since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes
>> minutes, win takes hours, maybe day to put it all back

> Minutes? Surely not! My 2GB drive eats up to 20 minutes to revalidate.
> Or is my filesystem effed up?

And is 20 minutes not minutes? my largest partition of 1 gig took 10 minutes
to fix, IIRC, it was a while ago

Mash - not jani
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

If you've got the money, I've got the time...

On 04-Jan-00, Alex Furmanski wrote:

>> Yeah, but thats the sort odd comparison M.Sealey would have come up
>> with....

> How is it odd (it's alright, I've corrected the typo for you - it'll be
> our little secret)? Both are an inconvenience that nobody really wants to
> have to endure, and both take longer than you really want them too :-)

because how can you compare validating a drive with reinstalling windows!??
they're not even slightly similar....

> Pardon my French, but tu parle testicules (sorry Patrice, though I don't
> think you're here any more)! 

Je parle une petite peu du franais, mais je ummmm..... know what you mean

> Scandisk is done in minutes, in fact it's

so is validating a drive. Once it starts, whack 500 buffers on the partition
and its quicker than waiting for windows to boot.

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"Logic is logic. That's all I say." Holmes

On 04-Jan-00, Anthony Prime wrote:

> So is the weekly visit to Sainsburys, so do we add that as another
> comparison :/ Sorry gotta go with Mash here.

whooop whooop whooop! :)

>> quicker on my PC's HD (4GB) than DiskSalv takes to put my 1.6GB on my
>> Amiga back together.

> Perhaps Mash has a lovely shiny 286 that is his pride and joy ;p

p90 and a celeron 450. both piss me off and get slower everyday. eg
installed Halflife addon pack 3 weeks ago, ran nice and quick, now the
frame rate has slowly dropped each day, now it is half the original..for no
reason, no new programs, no updates, just slower...

Mash - rendering
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Cat HAIR all over the keyboard. Don't blame me for spelling errors.

On 04-Jan-00, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

> Hello,

> I picked up AF72 (the second one I bought!) last night, to make reference
> to the history of the Amiga article. This was the first one with SOLD
> across the front; circulation of 100 000 +, Amiga topping the all- formats

grey and orange? I've got every copy back to 45 ish.. Althougna  few have
been cut up to make new backdrops for my clock on the wall (now theres an
idea for everyone)

> games chart with Super Skidmarks. The Cyberstorm 060 kicks Pentum Ass, and

all formats!!?? wow... got that, and the addondisk, and some other guys pd
disks with cars on (was the last pd I got)

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Hint for Mom:  Run a credit line at the toy store.

On 05-Jan-00, Andrew Gillen wrote:

> (Anyone got any suggestions regarding my wobbily zorro slot btw?)

Do like all the asian guys did in my high school, use stickytape. Anything
(and I really do mean anything) could be fixed, chairs, tables, gates, car
tyres, nuclear reactors. No-one had inner tubes, they stuffed the tyres
with carpet....

Mash - solid
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"It's high noon on my sundial!" - Butt-Head

> =B7 I should be harsher with off-topicality, or softer, perhaps?

Fine as it is, I think.

> =B7 We need more "stuff" to talk about?

Once again, fine. Just as long as it's Amiga-related...

> =B7 I should be on here less?

On here more! You lot at AF have been really quiet recently. What toys
and gizmos are you playing with?

> BTW, we're coming up on the time to have another afb page written.
Who's
> volunteering this issue? :)

I would offer my services, but I don't think I'd be able to expand on
previous, erm, offerings.

Paul

> Before any type on SCSI, on my hardware wish list first comes a
graphics
> card, then a fast serial, then a soundcard (although these last two
> seem to be mutually exclusive,A1200 having only one clock port...)

4 with a ClockExpander, though I wouldn't go for one until someone
reviews it.
And there are other ways of adding such items.

Paul

On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 06:50:52 -0800, Paul Laycock (amipal@yahoo=2Ecom) wrote=
:

> > =B7 I should be on here less?
>=20
> On here more! You lot at AF have been really quiet recently=2E What toys
> and gizmos are you playing with?

Maybe *gasp* they were off for Christmas, like the rest of us!!

Kev

--=20
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Hi Kevin,

>> On here more! You lot at AF have been really quiet recently. What toys
>> and gizmos are you playing with?

> Maybe *gasp* they were off for Christmas, like the rest of us!!

I'm currently trying to get through all the old mails on afb from
Christmas...

All the best,
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for the taste of good taste, reach for DyDo.

Hi,

A reply to Jonathan Day who asked about an upcoming 3D tutorial in AF.

It doesn't look like a 3D tutorial is going to be forthcoming unless I get
someone to write it...

All the best,
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         I'll try anything once too often

I know someone asked if anyone had any cached copies of the Amiga Web
Directory
on their machine.

Well, for the time being, the Russian Mirror (in english) is still up.

URL is http://cucug.cch.pmc.ru/amiga.html

Regards

Mikey C

> they don't even reach A500 speed on a PPC system so I'd be surprised if
> you
> could do anything usefull with it on an 030.
poo

> Have you tried searching for a jst or whdload installer, these will
> allow you to
> run older games straigh from hd.
I don't see how installing to HD would help, as the game wibbles by
excessive hard ware hitting (the disks are even NDOS) but I'll have a
peek an aminet and my AFCDs.
I'll let you know if I find something which works.
In case I don't, has anyone got an A500 or A1000 for sale? I'll pay 10.

-curry
-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

> On 04-Jan-00, Alex Furmanski wrote:
> 
> > > Yeah, but thats the sort odd comparison M. Sealey
> > > would have come up with....

I resent that!

> > How is it odd (it's alright, I've corrected the typo for 
> > you - it'll be our little secret)? Both are an
> > inconvenience that nobody really wants to have to endure,
> > and both take longer than you really want them too :-)
> 
> because how can you compare validating a drive with 
> reinstalling windows!?? they're not even slightly similar....

They are both an inconveniance that nobody wants to have to
endure, and  they both take longer than you really want them
too. Hence similar, and therefore comparable.

Can't you read? Or are you just being pedantic?

My take is that neither should happen unless you actively
f*ck about with your system. My hard disk hasn't invalidated
in God knows how long (certainly not since I installed OS3.5)
and I don't reinstall Windows willy-nilly like some idiots
do, because I don't mess in the first place.

> > Scandisk is done in minutes, in fact it's
> 
> so is validating a drive. Once it starts, whack 500 buffers 
> on the partition and its quicker than waiting for windows to
> boot.

Dead right. My not-invalidating-disk thing is probably due to
the fact that I run DiskSafe which catches disk writes and
stops the machine from rebooting in most circumstances, until
they've been written to the disk.

Everybody should install it. The only reason it isn't built in
to the filesystem is because filesystems aren't supposed to
patch system functions like that, according to OS Design Lore.

One day, I'll do a masterclass on keeping your Amiga ship-shape,
just like mine is. Then you'll see that you don't need DOpus or
PFS to hide the system to make it good, in fact you can do much
of it's job using smaller system utilities and not have megabytes
of crap installed..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> On 04-Jan-00, Anthony Prime wrote:
> 
> > So is the weekly visit to Sainsburys, so do we add that as another
> > comparison :/ Sorry gotta go with Mash here.
> 
> whooop whooop whooop! :)
> 
> > > quicker on my PC's HD (4GB) than DiskSalv takes to put my 
> > > 1.6GB on my Amiga back together.
> 
> > Perhaps Mash has a lovely shiny 286 that is his pride and joy ;p
> 
> p90 and a celeron 450. both piss me off and get slower everyday. eg
> installed Halflife addon pack 3 weeks ago, ran nice and quick, now the
> frame rate has slowly dropped each day, now it is half the 
> original..for no reason, no new programs, no updates, just slower...

The surgery is open, Mash. What are your virtual memory settings like?
What are your disk cache settings set to? What screen res are you at,
are you using the Active Desktop, etc.?

When was the last time you Defragged your disk?

Come on, I can fix all these stupid problems. What's your system
setup, like memory and disk size? Are you using the latest stable
drivers?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"xatiminey" <xatimine-@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41588
> > they don't even reach A500 speed on a PPC system so I'd be
surprised if
> > you
> > could do anything usefull with it on an 030.
> poo
> 
> > Have you tried searching for a jst or whdload installer, these will
> > allow you to
> > run older games straigh from hd.
> I don't see how installing to HD would help, as the game wibbles by
> excessive hard ware hitting (the disks are even NDOS) but I'll have a
> peek an aminet and my AFCDs.
> I'll let you know if I find something which works.
> In case I don't, has anyone got an A500 or A1000 for sale? I'll pay
=A310.
> 
There is a Whdload based HD installer for Deuteros it can be found on
aminet 
in the archive WHDIGamesC-D.lzh which also includes installers for other
games, you will also need the WHDLoad_usr.lha archive. This installer
will 
create a disk image on your HD and comes with an executable to start
the 
game.
You can download the installer seperately from the whdload homepage at
http://www.fh-zwickau.de/~jah/whdload but this site seems to be down at
the moment.

> -curry
> -- 
> "I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."