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<HR><A NAME=mess40490></A><CENTER>Message 40490</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:15:08 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:13:38 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
&gt; &gt; Don't be surprised if this gets cancelled ... Ben?  Ben?  
&gt; &gt; Where's he gone now?  ;-)
&gt; 
&gt; I'm doing a datey one, shh!

Curses Sealey, I was just about to do that.  That way you can include the
"Yes but  Iwish I hadn't bothered" option, as well as "I tried but still
haven't got my keyfile from Paul Jewell" amongst others ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



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<HR><A NAME=mess40491></A><CENTER>Message 40491</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:17:41 -0000
<BR><PRE>
 
&gt; &gt; I'm doing a datey one, shh!
&gt; 
&gt; Curses Sealey, I was just about to do that.  That way you can 
&gt; include the "Yes but I wish I hadn't bothered" option, as well
&gt; as "I  tried but still haven't got my keyfile from Paul Jewell"
&gt; amongst others ...

Too late! I did add the 'unable to get it registered because of
Cosmic Rays' sort of excuse though. Where did Paul Jewell go,
anyway?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



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<HR><A NAME=mess40492></A><CENTER>Message 40492</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:19:11 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:17:41 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
&gt;  
&gt; &gt; &gt; I'm doing a datey one, shh!
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Curses Sealey, I was just about to do that.  That way you can 
&gt; &gt; include the "Yes but I wish I hadn't bothered" option, as well
&gt; &gt; as "I  tried but still haven't got my keyfile from Paul Jewell"
&gt; &gt; amongst others ...
&gt; 
&gt; Too late! I did add the 'unable to get it registered because of
&gt; Cosmic Rays' sort of excuse though. Where did Paul Jewell go,
&gt; anyway?

I didn't see that one, but there was one due to lack of Visa card, which
isn't the same thing as attempted to register.  I've no idea where Paul has
gone, and my email to SASG asking if I could take over registrations hasn't
had a reply ....

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



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<HR><A NAME=mess40493></A><CENTER>Message 40493</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:25:49 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; Too late! I did add the 'unable to get it registered because of
&gt; &gt; Cosmic Rays' sort of excuse though. Where did Paul Jewell go,
&gt; &gt; anyway?
&gt; 
&gt; I didn't see that one, but there was one due to lack of Visa 
&gt; card, which isn't the same thing as attempted to register. 
&gt; I've no idea where Paul has gone, and my email to SASG asking
&gt; if I could take over registrations hasn't had a reply ....

If you were looking over my shoulder when I typed in the
options, you'd have seen me expand on that VISA one:

* No, because I can't register (no VISA card, that Bastard Paul
  Jewell took my money and ran away with it), but I'd love to.

But I thought it was a bit harsh. Either way, "I can't, but
I want to" is the general gist of that option..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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<HR><A NAME=mess40494></A><CENTER>Message 40494</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:26:18 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi M.,

&gt; Methinks Ben is getting jealous of it's rival Amigactive ;) If
&gt; they're such a teeny tiny magazine (Pinprint isn't exactly
&gt; Future-sized ;) how come they get such nice paper, ink, and
&gt; decent printing?

It's not jealousy, I know exactly why Future prints us on crap paper, why we
end up with end-of-bin inks, why we only have 92 pages and so on. It's down
to money, pure and simple.

&gt; They sure can't get the subscriber/reader base of an established
&gt; mag like Amiga Format, can they?

Nope, they certainly can't. Even if they were selling twice the number of
mags we are...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I organized that big party for the prisoners," Tom confessed.




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<HR><A NAME=mess40495></A><CENTER>Message 40495</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:27:36 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi shall@mgs.kent.sch.uk,

&gt; Do you use a registered version of MUI, if not, why? After all, it is the
&gt; most used piece of Amiga software.

&gt; ----

&gt; Please select one of the following:

&gt;   o Yes, I have a registered version of MUI
&gt;   o No, I couldn't be bothered to register


&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------
&gt; *AFB: All polls MUST have dates*, and if you have something to
&gt; sell use AmiBench! http://www.amibench.org/

Did you see this bit? Poll cancelled.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: password is too complex to decrypt




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<HR><A NAME=mess40496></A><CENTER>Message 40496</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:28:18 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Hi M.,
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Methinks Ben is getting jealous of it's rival Amigactive ;) If
&gt; &gt; they're such a teeny tiny magazine (Pinprint isn't exactly
&gt; &gt; Future-sized ;) how come they get such nice paper, ink, and
&gt; &gt; decent printing?
&gt; 
&gt; It's not jealousy, I know exactly why Future prints us on crap
&gt; paper, why we end up with end-of-bin inks, why we only have 92
&gt; pages and so on. It's down to money, pure and simple.

So how come Amigactive seem to have more money? Are you embezzling
all of AF's funds to feed your MiniDisc habit or something? :)

&gt; &gt; They sure can't get the subscriber/reader base of an established
&gt; &gt; mag like Amiga Format, can they?
&gt; 
&gt; Nope, they certainly can't. Even if they were selling twice 
&gt; the number of mags we are...

Selling to shops, or selling to people?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester 


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<HR><A NAME=mess40497></A><CENTER>Message 40497</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:29:30 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:25:49 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Too late! I did add the 'unable to get it registered because of
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cosmic Rays' sort of excuse though. Where did Paul Jewell go,
&gt; &gt; &gt; anyway?
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I didn't see that one, but there was one due to lack of Visa 
&gt; &gt; card, which isn't the same thing as attempted to register. 
&gt; &gt; I've no idea where Paul has gone, and my email to SASG asking
&gt; &gt; if I could take over registrations hasn't had a reply ....
&gt; 
&gt; If you were looking over my shoulder when I typed in the
&gt; options, you'd have seen me expand on that VISA one:
&gt; 
&gt; * No, because I can't register (no VISA card, that Bastard Paul
&gt;   Jewell took my money and ran away with it), but I'd love to.
&gt; 
&gt; But I thought it was a bit harsh. Either way, "I can't, but
&gt; I want to" is the general gist of that option..

Ahhhh, I'll let you off on that one then   ;-)

But where's the "I registered and wish I hadn't bothered" option, just for
completeness?

Kev

PS  I've emailed you again at home regards the printer.device configurable
timeout thingy  :-)

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



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<HR><A NAME=mess40498></A><CENTER>Message 40498</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:31:40 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi M.,

&gt; * No, because I can't register (no VISA card, that Bastard Paul
&gt;  Jewell took my money and ran away with it), but I'd love to.

I didn't think he took anyone's money - just left the cheques gathering
dust...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Loose Lips Drop Chips




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40499></A><CENTER>Message 40499</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:32:15 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; * No, because I can't register (no VISA card, that Bastard Paul
&gt; &gt;   Jewell took my money and ran away with it), but I'd love to.
&gt; &gt;=20
&gt; &gt; But I thought it was a bit harsh. Either way, "I can't, but
&gt; &gt; I want to" is the general gist of that option..
&gt;=20
&gt; Ahhhh, I'll let you off on that one then   ;-)

Kewl :)
=20
&gt; But where's the "I registered and wish I hadn't bothered"=20
&gt; option, just for completeness?

Up your backside? :) No, I assume that people are pretty happy
with their registrations. If you can be bothered to fork out
=A315 for the thing (plus P&P, exchange rates/commission) then
you can at least be proud that you've paid the guy for all his
work..

&gt; PS  I've emailed you again at home regards the printer.device=20
&gt; configurable timeout thingy  :-)

PS I'm going to look on the webmail service to see what you've
written ;)

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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<HR><A NAME=mess40500></A><CENTER>Message 40500</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:33:02 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi M.,

&gt;&gt; It's not jealousy, I know exactly why Future prints us on crap
&gt;&gt; paper, why we end up with end-of-bin inks, why we only have 92
&gt;&gt; pages and so on. It's down to money, pure and simple.

&gt; So how come Amigactive seem to have more money? Are you embezzling
&gt; all of AF's funds to feed your MiniDisc habit or something? :)

Quote from BladeRunner time: "The candle that burns twice as bright burns
half as long, and you've burned so very brightly Roy".

&gt;&gt; Nope, they certainly can't. Even if they were selling twice 
&gt;&gt; the number of mags we are...

&gt; Selling to shops, or selling to people?

Doesn't make a lot of difference if you are on sale or return.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Inflation to be phased out in favour of annual 1.1% 
lowering of wages to avoid costly relabelling of goods




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<HR><A NAME=mess40501></A><CENTER>Message 40501</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Dearing" &lt;neil@wibble.karoo.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] MUI Registration
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:54:11 +0000
<BR><PRE>
  Ive registered MUI about 6 months ago using the sasg website and a
visa card. I have seen a huge improvement in the look and feel of all
the MUI programs ever since. I would highly recommend it to anyone who
regularly uses MUI programs, like all of the Vapor app's
  It only took about 10 days to receive my keyfile by e-mail so it is
not that bad really!

Is there any versions of mui optimised for higher processors. mine is
a 68040 @ 33Mhz with 16Mb ram


-- 
  Cheerio

  ICQ #38639804



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<HR><A NAME=mess40502></A><CENTER>Message 40502</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Do you use a registered version of MUI
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:56:06 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:32:15 -0000, Sealey, M=2E (mws2@leicester=2Eac=2Euk)=
 wrote:

&gt; &gt; But where's the "I registered and wish I hadn't bothered"=20
&gt; &gt; option, just for completeness?
&gt;=20
&gt; Up your backside? :) No, I assume that people are pretty happy
&gt; with their registrations=2E If you can be bothered to fork out
&gt; =A315 for the thing (plus P&P, exchange rates/commission) then
&gt; you can at least be proud that you've paid the guy for all his
&gt; work=2E=2E

Well, you can assume that people are happy with what they've paid good
money for, but that isn't always the case now is it?  I'm happy with what I
paid for MUI, and hope that there's another release, be it 3=2E9 or a
paid-for 4=2E0 upgrade=2E

&gt; &gt; PS  I've emailed you again at home regards the printer=2Edevice=20
&gt; &gt; configurable timeout thingy  :-)
&gt;=20
&gt; PS I'm going to look on the webmail service to see what you've
&gt; written ;)

Heh heh - I'd better hide  ;-)

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



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<HR><A NAME=mess40503></A><CENTER>Message 40503</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: MUI Registration
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 13:57:55 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On 11 Jan 2000 13:54:11 +0000, Neil Dearing (neil@wibble.karoo.co.uk) wrote:

&gt; Is there any versions of mui optimised for higher processors. mine is
&gt; a 68040 @ 33Mhz with 16Mb ram

Nope, unless you use a hack like PatchFor020 to optimise them yourself ...

Kev

PS  I wouldn't mind either an 060 or PPC version for my system   :-)

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40504></A><CENTER>Message 40504</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: MUI Registration
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:02:57 -0500
<BR><PRE>
&gt;  It only took about 10 days to receive my keyfile by e-mail so it is
&gt;not that bad really!


Be sure you post that to the newsgroups! Every once in a while SASG gets a
raging flame because "I sent my registration yesterday and I haven't gotten
anything yet! I hate MUI! I'll never use it again! I'm gonna knock on
everybody's door and tell 'em really evil things about MUI!" Things like
that...

&gt;Is there any versions of mui optimised for higher processors. mine is
&gt;a 68040 @ 33Mhz with 16Mb ram


Nope. Just a "generic" version for all '0x0 processors.



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<HR><A NAME=mess40505></A><CENTER>Message 40505</CENTER><BR>
From :"Erol Ismael" &lt;eismael@netscape.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: soundcards - which is the best?
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:05:15 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Can anyone help?

"erol ismael" &lt;eismae-@netscape.net&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41848
&gt; I have an A1200T (being repaired at eyetech)
&gt; A4000 and A2000
&gt; I want a soundcard that is great for sound and games; I'm not too much
&gt; into what it can do as long as it is compatible to most new games
using
&gt; AHI.
&gt; I was thinking of the Delfina, does anyone have this card and is it
any
&gt; good?
&gt; Also the conciertoIV for the Picasso card but this is no longer
&gt; available.
&gt; Any comments and advice would be most appreciated.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40506></A><CENTER>Message 40506</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: soundcards - which is the best?
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:12:44 -0500
<BR><PRE>
&gt;"erol ismael" &lt;eismae-@netscape.net&gt; wrote:
&gt;original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41848
&gt;&gt; I have an A1200T (being repaired at eyetech)
&gt;&gt; A4000 and A2000
&gt;&gt; I want a soundcard that is great for sound and games; I'm not too much
&gt;&gt; into what it can do as long as it is compatible to most new games
&gt;using
&gt;&gt; AHI.
&gt;&gt; I was thinking of the Delfina, does anyone have this card and is it
&gt;any
&gt;&gt; good?
&gt;&gt; Also the conciertoIV for the Picasso card but this is no longer
&gt;&gt; available.


I have a Concierto, and it suits my needs...but I wouldn't recommend it if
you have a Zorro slot to spare. The reasons I got the Concierto: 1) it was
cheap, and 2) I DIDN'T at the time have a spare Zorro slot. If you're just
looking to PLAY music, it's really a nice card...but if you want to RECORD
music [especially for CD burning] on an Amiga 4000, it's not gonna be a heck
of a lot of help unless your A4000 is accelerated...i.e. at least an 040/40.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40507></A><CENTER>Message 40507</CENTER><BR>
From :"Erol Ismael" &lt;eismael@netscape.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Transmeta
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:29:43 -0800
<BR><PRE>
 
It is nearly here 19th January

http://www.transmeta.com



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<HR><A NAME=mess40508></A><CENTER>Message 40508</CENTER><BR>
From :Simon Jenkins &lt;simon@jinky.connectfree.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] The demo of Hell Squad on AFCD49
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:26:49 +0100
<BR><PRE>
I seem to be having some trouble playing the demo of this game.
It seems to load fine, but all I hear is the in game sound fx, but I don't
have any picture. Does this game work on a Picasso96 screen?
-- 

                     JINKY              
      ***********************************
      Infinitiv A1300 ZII PIV + Conceirto           
             CTX 15" Trinitron SVGA                        
      GI-Quatro - HD - CD-ROM - Atapi ZIP       
         Blizzard 1230IV + FPU + 32MB          
               Pace 56k (V.90)                  
           Epson Stylus Photo 700             
      *********************************** 
                /OS 3.5 Powered!/      
                                     
 "Bother," said Pooh, as he was being castrated.

  
  



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40509></A><CENTER>Message 40509</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: The demo of Hell Squad on AFCD49
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:32:30 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Simon,

&gt; I seem to be having some trouble playing the demo of this game.
&gt; It seems to load fine, but all I hear is the in game sound fx, but I don't
&gt; have any picture. Does this game work on a Picasso96 screen?

I don't think it does, but it should come through your flicker fixer okay...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: cosmic ray particles




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40510></A><CENTER>Message 40510</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:36:32 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Hi M.,
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; It's not jealousy, I know exactly why Future prints us on crap
&gt; &gt; &gt; paper, why we end up with end-of-bin inks, why we only have 92
&gt; &gt; &gt; pages and so on. It's down to money, pure and simple.
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; So how come Amigactive seem to have more money? Are you embezzling
&gt; &gt; all of AF's funds to feed your MiniDisc habit or something? :)
&gt; 
&gt; Quote from BladeRunner time: "The candle that burns twice as 
&gt; bright burns half as long, and you've burned so very brightly Roy".

Is this the bit where you push Andrew Korn's eyes into his head? :)

&gt; &gt; &gt; Nope, they certainly can't. Even if they were selling twice 
&gt; &gt; &gt; the number of mags we are...
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Selling to shops, or selling to people?
&gt; 
&gt; Doesn't make a lot of difference if you are on sale or return.

Are you (ISTR the CD is but not the DD), and/or are Amigactive?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40511></A><CENTER>Message 40511</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:38:55 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi M.,

&gt;&gt;&gt; Selling to shops, or selling to people?
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Doesn't make a lot of difference if you are on sale or return.

&gt; Are you (ISTR the CD is but not the DD), and/or are Amigactive?

AFCD=yep, AFDD=nope, AA=yep (think so WHSmiths probably wouldn't take it on
firm sale anyway).

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40512></A><CENTER>Message 40512</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] SIMM prob...
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:39:50 -0500
<BR><PRE>
Hey...just got my Tekmagic 060 installed in my A4000 and it's working well,
except that what I thought was a double-sided 32MB SIMM is only recognized
as a 16MB SIMM. I checked the jumper settings to make sure they were set for
a double-sided SIMM, and they were. [Any other jumper setting made the
accelerator think it was an 8MB SIMM.]

How can I tell for sure whether the SIMM is indeed 32MB and not 16? Any way
to just look at it and tell?



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40513></A><CENTER>Message 40513</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: SIMM prob...
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:46:25 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Sean,

&gt; How can I tell for sure whether the SIMM is indeed 32MB and not 16? Any
&gt; way to just look at it and tell?

Yep, read the part number and manufacturer name and go and look it up on
their website - are you sure it's not a double-sided 8M SIMM?

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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<HR><A NAME=mess40514></A><CENTER>Message 40514</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: SIMM prob...
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:55:39 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; How can I tell for sure whether the SIMM is indeed 32MB and 
&gt; &gt; not 16? Any way to just look at it and tell?
&gt; 
&gt; Yep, read the part number and manufacturer name and go and 
&gt; look it up on their website - are you sure it's not a
&gt; double-sided 8M SIMM?

It could well be just incompatible memory. Not all memory is the
same, some companies hold patents on how their memory works in
subtle ways, which makes them more reliable and therefore
faster (subtley ;)

If you've got cheapo memory and the card is expecting EXPENSIVE
memory then all you can do is take it back and get some more.

This is hardly an Amiga specific problem, many older Intel
boards rely on Kingston and Samsung memory rather than cheapo
brands and unlabeled stuff.. so you have a 64Mb SIMM that
comes out as 32Mb, or two 32Mb that come out as two 16Mb..

-- 
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Computer Centre
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<HR><A NAME=mess40515></A><CENTER>Message 40515</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Scouting for textures
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:32:45 -0000
<BR><PRE>
I need metallic textures.

Like Apple's QuickTime 4 backdrop or the same sheeny
stuff you get on disk shutters, or the kind of 
metal-with-lumps-in stuff you get on fire escapes,
or anything metallic like that.

24-bit or 256 colours is preferable, and I need
proper seamless textures.

Can anyone help? 

TIA!

-- 
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<HR><A NAME=mess40516></A><CENTER>Message 40516</CENTER><BR>
From :Robert Johnston &lt;RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Scouting for textures
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:33:54 -0000
<BR><PRE>
/me gets his Digital camera and disk-shutter collection ready...

&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
&gt; Sent: 11 January 2000 15:33
&gt; To: 'afb@egroups.com'
&gt; Subject: [afb] Scouting for textures
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; I need metallic textures.
&gt; 
&gt; Like Apple's QuickTime 4 backdrop or the same sheeny
&gt; stuff you get on disk shutters, or the kind of 
&gt; metal-with-lumps-in stuff you get on fire escapes,
&gt; or anything metallic like that.
&gt; 
&gt; 24-bit or 256 colours is preferable, and I need
&gt; proper seamless textures.
&gt; 
&gt; Can anyone help? 
&gt; 
&gt; TIA!
&gt; 
&gt; -- 
&gt; Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
&gt; Distributed Systems Support
&gt; Computer Centre
&gt; University of Leicester
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<HR><A NAME=mess40517></A><CENTER>Message 40517</CENTER><BR>
From :Robert Johnston &lt;RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Scouting for textures
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:34:53 -0000
<BR><PRE>
(And apologises for the receipts! forgot I leave them on for work!)

&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Robert Johnston [mailto:RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK]
&gt; Sent: 11 January 2000 15:34
&gt; To: 'afb@egroups.com'
&gt; Subject: [afb] Re: Scouting for textures
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; /me gets his Digital camera and disk-shutter collection ready...
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; &gt; From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
&gt; &gt; Sent: 11 January 2000 15:33
&gt; &gt; To: 'afb@egroups.com'
&gt; &gt; Subject: [afb] Scouting for textures
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I need metallic textures.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Like Apple's QuickTime 4 backdrop or the same sheeny
&gt; &gt; stuff you get on disk shutters, or the kind of 
&gt; &gt; metal-with-lumps-in stuff you get on fire escapes,
&gt; &gt; or anything metallic like that.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 24-bit or 256 colours is preferable, and I need
&gt; &gt; proper seamless textures.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Can anyone help? 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; TIA!
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; -- 
&gt; &gt; Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
&gt; &gt; Distributed Systems Support
&gt; &gt; Computer Centre
&gt; &gt; University of Leicester
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<HR><A NAME=mess40518></A><CENTER>Message 40518</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Info on Amiga North Thames (ANT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:09:19 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hello all.

Sorry to post something like this here, but I am trying to doing some
damage limitation.

I am very grateful to AF for publicising our usergroup website (Thanks
Ben)

Unfortunately, My Hard drive died totally over the chrimbo period.
(Which took a fix on a PC using fdisk to getting working again). I have
lost everything, (see I knew I had something left to do - like a backup)

In short.

The information contained on the ANT website about our meeting venue is
incorrect. It is at the Venue in Enfield as stated in the AF usergroup
section.
(We couldn't get a regular meeting date there until the start of 2000).

So please ignore the Chingford meeting venue, it is the one in Enfield,
and the next meeting date is the 23rd of Jan.

Right, I'd better get the files restored before the 17th....

Regards

Mikey C






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<HR><A NAME=mess40519></A><CENTER>Message 40519</CENTER><BR>
From :Robert Johnston &lt;RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Info on Amiga North Thames (ANT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:13:45 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Right, I'd better get the files restored before the 17th....

Here's an idea for you... Download the site back from your webserver (Had to
do this myself several times before!) :))


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<HR><A NAME=mess40520></A><CENTER>Message 40520</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Info on Amiga North Thames (ANT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:24:27 -0800
<BR><PRE>
robert johnston &lt;rjohnsto-@simply.co.uk&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D42136
&gt; &gt; Right, I'd better get the files restored before the 17th....
&gt; 
&gt; Here's an idea for you... Download the site back from your webserver
(Had to
&gt; do this myself several times before!) :))

Well, if you think I was going to sit down and rewrite the whole bloody
thing from scratch....... :)

&gt; Visit our Website at http://www.simply.co.uk 

What is an Amigan doing working for a PC firm??

Actually if my hard drive hadn't done a "lazarus" I was going to buy a
new drive from Simply in Walthamstow. How can you beat a Fujitsu (did I
spell that right) 8.3gb IDE Drive for =A384 inc Vat?

If you work in the Walthamstow branch, how about becoming an ANT
member? 
(Recruitment drive on)

Regards

Mikey C




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<HR><A NAME=mess40521></A><CENTER>Message 40521</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Info on Amiga North Thames (ANT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:26:28 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; Visit our Website at http://www.simply.co.uk 
&gt; 
&gt; What is an Amigan doing working for a PC firm??

Does it REALLY matter where people work? And I
challenge you to find an Amiga firm who's hiring
at the moment... ;)
 
-- 
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<HR><A NAME=mess40522></A><CENTER>Message 40522</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: [Slightly OT] 10 commandments of email
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 23:9:3 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Paul Cundle &lt;paulc@lantik.u-net.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 07:05:41
 Re:  [afb] Re: [Slightly OT] 10 commandments of email

Hi Paul,

&gt; BTW, regarding you not receiving the HTML part of it. Could it be
&gt; because your mail reader automatically snips everything after the
&gt; signature thing -- ?

Nup.  I'm using Thor.  And textual types of attachments are always shown
below the main text body (binary attachments require user interaction to
view).  It's not my mail server either, as I've often received HTML
mail, grrr.

I am now wondering whether picking, "receive mail as text only," at
eGroups, actually parses all mail?  (Not just converting all mail to
HTML if you pick that type of mail.)

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40523></A><CENTER>Message 40523</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Zip drives
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 23:5:25 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Paul Cundle &lt;paulc@lantik.u-net.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 07:02:07
 Re:  [afb] Re: Zip drives

Hi Paul,

&gt;&gt; When I bought my Squirrel (100 meg), I bought a Surf Squirrel.  It
&gt;&gt; didn't work at all A classic Squirrel did, however, work on my 1200,
&gt;&gt; but was pretty awful (impossible to boot off it, and terribly slow).

&gt; Aaargggh! Just as I'd been convinced all would be okay, you go and do
&gt; this to me.

Well, either get a money back guarentee.  Or take your computer in and
test it at the store (this sort of thing is easier for an Amiga than a
PC).  ;-)

If they balk at that.  Just explain, that if they want a sale (of a not
insubstantial amount either, I might add).  It's got to work on your
system (which isn't just an Amiga only type of problem).  If it works,
you're buying it on the spot.  If it doesn't they don't have to worry
about taking soiled goods back, or more to the point, goods they have no
idea what has been done to them.

Bye,
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<HR><A NAME=mess40524></A><CENTER>Message 40524</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 22:52:49 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Sealey, M. &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
 To:  'afb@egroups.com' &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  10-Jan-00 23:07:23
 Re:  [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

Hi Sealey,,

&gt;&gt; Isn't it annoying how the Windows update doesn't save the 
&gt;&gt; update to the drive, then run from there.  It has to save and
&gt;&gt; run directly, losing the original downloaded source.  Very
&gt;&gt; stupid.  But then that's typical of Microsoft.

&gt; Actually, that's a GOOD feature, not a stupid one. With the
&gt; frequency of updates and updates to updates from Microsoft,
&gt; storing the original source would be just a waste of space
&gt; on your hard drive.

Dunno about that.  I've had it screw up during the procedure, and have
to start again downloading a whole mass of files.  This, on a brand new
PC, not a cheap one either, and without any extra crap added to it.

&gt;&gt; And I wish there was an IBuM list as useful as this one.  
&gt;&gt; Anytime I ask anyone for IBuM advice, all they can ever say
&gt;&gt; is re-install.

&gt; I don't think anyone would pay attention to your problems
&gt; anyway. Tech support tend to ignore people who mock their
&gt; field of expertise, by making up peurile 5-year-old words
&gt; and acronyms and inserting dollar signs into company names.

Since I wrote the paragraph you are replying to here, I'll point out
that I did not use those type of terms in that letter.  Only a complete
idiot would use those sort of terms in a letter asking for support from
the people concerned.  Though it's by no means an Amiga thing to refer
to IBM software in such a derogatory manner.  It's so deserving of it,
it gets it from all manner of users.

&gt;&gt; Geezus, I don't want to patch up problems, I want to stop
&gt;&gt; them happening in the first place.

&gt; There are two big reasons for PC clones exploding: crappy
&gt; substandard hardware (read ISA, cheap PCI cards, etc.) or
&gt; user error. Guess which one is the most common..

As users, we don't get much choice in the matter.  We don't have the
resources to get the parts (dealers only), and no reliable information
about parts quality, or compatibility (just about everything has some
stupid limitations, so what do you do?).

I paid through the nose for a custom built system, from a fairly large
firm.  To source the parts, build it, and test it.  They failed
terribly at the job, and I've spent a lot of my own time fixing things
up.  Such as:

Putting a card in a slot that conflicts with the AGP port, against the
instructions supplied with the card!  Not connecting the CPU fan power.
Power LED plugged in backwards.  HDD LED plugged into the keyboard lock
header.  Thermal sensor that is supplied with the motherboard not
installed.  Hard drive installed with screws hanging half out.  Floppy
drive and hard drive sub-chassis hanging out of main chassis, only
screwed in one side, and jammed in out of place too.  Technician badly
scratching the Windows 98 CD.  Not installing any updates from the
service pack on a brand new system, when the service packs have been
around for quite some time, requiring a new user (who luckily wasn't a
completely new computer user), to spend hours downloading upgrades (who
luckily also already had internet access).  Knowingly installing
versions of software that caused failures (DVD software decoder), when
there was another version installed too (for the hardware decoder), and
not even bothering to tell the customer not to use it, nor why.

&gt; There are very few faults which can be traced back to
&gt; a genuine fault in Windows or any software you run on
&gt; your system (bar some notables), but nearly all of them
&gt; come about from users messing about, pushing stuff that
&gt; shouldn't be pushed (buttons AND hardware configs) and
&gt; the idiotic (IMO) view that you can buy a quality PC for
&gt; less than 500 - because you can't.

The only skimping I did was not paying through the nose for a 500 MHz
processor, and buying a 450 MHz one instead, knowing full well that I'll
never see any difference in performance.  But I still got put through
the roller coaster of hell.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40525></A><CENTER>Message 40525</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Flash updates
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 22:34:49 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 00:16:12
 Re:  [afb] Re: Flash updates

Hi Matthew,

&gt;&gt;&gt; Can everybody PLEASE learn how to quote emails properly, and
&gt;&gt;&gt; stop talking in shorthand!

&gt;&gt; That and daft quote prefixes with wierd characters, annoy me, grrr.

&gt; Whereas people who slap and extra 5 heading at the top of the mails
&gt; are perfectly acceptable, yes?

Yes.  Several mailers do that to outgoing mail.  I see no reason to be
different.  That header does not cause any problems with quoting, it can
be left as is (if you're a lazy git), or stripped out completely.  And
you found it necessary to add two lines of rubbish to the top of the
page yourself.

Semi-amusing, or not (the silly way you worded it), it ammounts to the
same thing).  Whether you write 100 characters (made up figure) across
four lines, neatly tabulated, or smacked across two, unformatted,
virtually the same amount of data is being transmitted (an EOL character
sequence is only one more character than a space).

Lines that have daft things preceeding quoted text often require every
single line on the page to be hand edited, when replying to mail.

You'll find that several mailing lists (this one included) slap more
(lengthwise) rubbish on the bottom of each e-mail automatically.  It
doesn't need to be blank line, blank line, blank line, blank line, blank
line, all polls need dates.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40526></A><CENTER>Message 40526</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Pronounciation of Boing
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 22:19:38 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew Wise &lt;matthew@wise25.swinternet.co.uk&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 06:43:07
 Re:  [afb] Pronounciation of Boing

Hi Matthew,

&gt; Maybe a stupid question, but how d'ya pronounce Boing?
&gt; Bo-ing or Boing (1 sylable or 2)?

You obviously have lead a deprived life, and not spent your Saturday
mornings watching Warner Brothers cartoons.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40527></A><CENTER>Message 40527</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Microvitec monitor problems
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 22:17:52 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Donald W Millican &lt;donaldwm@stonelawdrive.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 05:23:02
 Re:  [afb] Microvitec monitor problems

Hi Donald,

&gt; My brother was just using my Power Towered A1200 with my Microvitec
&gt; 1438 multiscan monitor (not the M1438S with the built in speakers),
&gt; when the screen dimmed. ..........[snip]............. Can anyone
&gt; tell me if the monitor sounds repairable or if it is the computer
&gt; which is at fault? Or do I have to buy a new multiscan monitor?

..... My car won't start, can you fix it?.......

The only way you're going to know, is to get someone to look at it.

And yes, it doesn't sound too terrible.  If you've still got some
picture on the screen, then repairs probably aren't too bad.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40528></A><CENTER>Message 40528</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Isn't it annoying....
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 22:13:55 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Mikey C &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  11-Jan-00 01:32:17
 Re:  [afb] Isn't it annoying....

Hi Mikey,

&gt; When you buy a new application/program and they are still
&gt; using those poxy 4 colour magic workbench Icons that went out
&gt; with the ark!

Magic Workbench icons are 8 colours.  ;-)  It's the original Workbench
icons that are 4 colour.  Which wouldn't be quite so bad if they hadn't
designed them to look like a potato cut out stamp.

&gt; What else bugs you, Amigawise?

Bugs.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40529></A><CENTER>Message 40529</CENTER><BR>
From :Robert Johnston &lt;RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Info on Amiga North Thames (ANT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:32:03 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; What is an Amigan doing working for a PC firm??

How many Amiga firms do you see around these days?

&gt; Actually if my hard drive hadn't done a "lazarus" I was going to buy =
a
&gt; new drive from Simply in Walthamstow. How can you beat a=20
&gt; Fujitsu (did I
&gt; spell that right) 8.3gb IDE Drive for =A384 inc Vat?

HF0122 (Fujitsu MPC3084AT-UD 8.4GB 10ms) 79.90 Inc. VAT... :))

&gt; If you work in the Walthamstow branch, how about becoming an ANT
&gt; member?=20
&gt; (Recruitment drive on)

I work in Walthamstow, but don't live there... 1 & 1/2 hour journey =
into
work every morning... Good chance to read my AF on the train, tho. :)


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<HR><A NAME=mess40530></A><CENTER>Message 40530</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Where people work was (A.N.T.)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:37:31 -0800
<BR><PRE>

&gt; Does it REALLY matter where people work? And I
&gt; challenge you to find an Amiga firm who's hiring
&gt; at the moment... ;)

Matt,

Oh! Drat! you've seen the hole in my argument! :)

Actually if Rob, is reading this one too, can you confirm that you work
at the place in Walthamstow? If so, I know who to ask for next time I
pop down.

BTW, do simply do EDO simms to fit on Amiga PPC boards? if so give me
some prices...


Regards

Mikey C






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<HR><A NAME=mess40531></A><CENTER>Message 40531</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:37:33 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 11-Jan-00, Ben Vost wrote:

&gt; Hi Alex,

&gt;&gt; Tee-hee hee hee. Funny army man. Ha ha ha. Very good. Oh, I spotted a

&gt; Glad you liked it. People have been pretty silent on the new issue, so I
&gt; was beginning to think that a) you've all given up your subscriptions or
&gt; b) no-one had got it. 

Got it? survival guide + commando? was that it? Olease tell me that isn't
any of you... please...

Mash - 
-- 
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HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets!







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<HR><A NAME=mess40532></A><CENTER>Message 40532</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Pronounciation of Boing
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:41:03 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 10-Jan-00, Matthew Wise wrote:

&gt; Maybe a stupid question, but how d'ya pronounce Boing?
&gt; Bo-ing or Boing (1 sylable or 2)?

boing as in boing

unless you mean like the aircraft people boeing?

Mash - 
-- 
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<HR><A NAME=mess40533></A><CENTER>Message 40533</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Magic Workbench Icons (was Isn't it annoying....
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:44:27 -0800
<BR><PRE>
"tim seifert" &lt;tim_seifer-@picknowl.com.au&gt; wrote: 

&gt; &gt; When you buy a new application/program and they are still
&gt; &gt; using those poxy 4 colour magic workbench Icons that went out
&gt; &gt; with the ark!
&gt; 
&gt; Magic Workbench icons are 8 colours.  ;-)  It's the original Workbench
&gt; icons that are 4 colour.  Which wouldn't be quite so bad if they
hadn't
&gt; designed them to look like a potato cut out stamp.
&gt; 

Okay, so I got my MWB and AOS ICON Colours mixed up. no need to jump on
me. :)
- Anyhow I think that anyone still using the MWB icons are idiots ;)

GlowIcons are so cool...

Mind you I bet people thought the same of the original AOS 4 colour
icons when they first came out.

Regards

Mikey C




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<HR><A NAME=mess40534></A><CENTER>Message 40534</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:45:27 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Matthew,

&gt;&gt; Glad you liked it. People have been pretty silent on the new issue, so I
&gt;&gt; was beginning to think that a) you've all given up your subscriptions or
&gt;&gt; b) no-one had got it. 

&gt; Got it? survival guide + commando? was that it? Olease tell me that isn't
&gt; any of you... please...

It's actually me - I shaved off my beard and lost a stone to do it - I hope
you all appreciate my method modelling...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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<HR><A NAME=mess40535></A><CENTER>Message 40535</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:45:53 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Hi Sealey,,
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Isn't it annoying how the Windows update doesn't save the 
&gt; &gt; &gt; update to the drive, then run from there.  It has to save and
&gt; &gt; &gt; run directly, losing the original downloaded source.  Very
&gt; &gt; &gt; stupid.  But then that's typical of Microsoft.
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Actually, that's a GOOD feature, not a stupid one. With the
&gt; &gt; frequency of updates and updates to updates from Microsoft,
&gt; &gt; storing the original source would be just a waste of space
&gt; &gt; on your hard drive.
&gt; 
&gt; Dunno about that.  I've had it screw up during the procedure,
&gt; and have to start again downloading a whole mass of files.  This,
&gt; on a  brand new PC, not a cheap one either, and without any extra
&gt; crap added to it.

First Law of Microsoft Software: whether it multitasks or not,
you should never try to install two things at once. Windows Update
doesn't have a clue which bits of the system and how other bits
actually update. If one of them does a forcible reboot of the
machine (a few of them do, no warning!) then all the rest will
fail. Others really do say that they can't be installed at the
same time as other updates.

If they ever update it to some kind of installer like IE5's then
it'll be fine, because it downloads them all to a place on your
drive, and then installs AFTERWARDS (so you can disconnect ;) if
you know what you're doing. Then you delete the installer files.

I'm envisaging a global kind of system for the Amiga when I get
round to finishing all my CURRENT programming projects, sort of
a cross between a task scheduler, critical update notification,
and Update Wizard (hookable by other online-aware tasks, and by
the use of special LibGuide-style routines ;)

&gt; &gt; &gt; And I wish there was an IBuM list as useful as this one.  
&gt; &gt; &gt; Anytime I ask anyone for IBuM advice, all they can ever say
&gt; &gt; &gt; is re-install.
&gt;

[snip]

&gt; Though it's by no means an Amiga thing to refer to IBM
&gt; software in such a derogatory manner.  It's so deserving of
&gt; it, it gets it from all manner of users.

Even when the software ISN'T written by IBM? Or the hardware?

[snip] 
&gt; Technician badly scratching the Windows 98 CD.

They shouldn't be using YOUR licensed copy to install Windows,
you **should** get a sealed copy with the instruction manual
according to all the licenses these suppliers use. Otherwise
they've effectively bound you to the license, without your
consent, and that's a bit illegal..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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<HR><A NAME=mess40536></A><CENTER>Message 40536</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:50:09 -0800
<BR><PRE>
"ben vost" &lt;ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk&gt; wrote: 

&gt; It's actually me - I shaved off my beard and lost a stone to do it -
I hope
&gt; you all appreciate my method modelling...

Ben, you big fibber you. That's really Richard isn't it? How did you
get him to look happy? :)

Regards

Mikey C




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<HR><A NAME=mess40537></A><CENTER>Message 40537</CENTER><BR>
From :Robert Johnston &lt;RJOHNSTON@SIMPLY.CO.UK&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Magic Workbench Icons (was Isn't it annoying....
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:50:57 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Mind you I bet people thought the same of the original AOS 4 colour
&gt; icons when they first came out.

Who Remember's those old 3-colour AOS Icons? Black, White and Orange!
Kewl!!! :)


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<HR><A NAME=mess40538></A><CENTER>Message 40538</CENTER><BR>
From :"Andrew McCombe" &lt;andrew@instant-print.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ben & AF - Thanks
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:55:22 -0000
<BR><PRE>

&gt; &gt; Ben - thanks for the dopus feature in the new issue - I've now
&gt; &gt; successfully replaced WB with dopus 5.11.
&gt;
&gt; Wooho... 5.11?! Don't even use it! It's rubbish! Get 5.82 immediately!
(lots
&gt; of exclams!)

No - I can't afford to spend much more on my Amiga.  It does all I need it
to do, and my PC can do the rest - (DON'T START EVERYONE!).

I find though that Dopus runs so much faster than my WB3.0, so I'll use it
more.



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<HR><A NAME=mess40539></A><CENTER>Message 40539</CENTER><BR>
From :"Andrew McCombe" &lt;andrew@instant-print.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Anyone got a Bars&Pipes Manual
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:11:00 -0000
<BR><PRE>
As the subject - has anyone got a bars & Pipes manual they want to
sell/copy?
Mail me privately if you have on euperia@instant-print.co.uk.

Ta



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<HR><A NAME=mess40540></A><CENTER>Message 40540</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ben & AF - Thanks
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:10:25 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Andrew,


&gt; I find though that Dopus runs so much faster than my WB3.0, so I'll use it
&gt; more.

And even Opus 5.5 runs so much faster than 5.11...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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available as 'Bi' ones




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<HR><A NAME=mess40541></A><CENTER>Message 40541</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sealey, M." &lt;mws2@leicester.ac.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ben & AF - Thanks
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:08 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Ben - thanks for the dopus feature in the new issue - I've now
&gt; &gt; &gt; successfully replaced WB with dopus 5.11.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Wooho... 5.11?! Don't even use it! It's rubbish! Get 5.82 
&gt; &gt; immediately! (lots of exclams!)
&gt; 
&gt; No - I can't afford to spend much more on my Amiga.  It does 
&gt; all I need it to do, and my PC can do the rest - (DON'T START
&gt; EVERYONE!).
&gt; 
&gt; I find though that Dopus runs so much faster than my WB3.0, 
&gt; so I'll use it more.

Just you wait! When you find all the bugs in 5.11, you'll wish
you'd *never* installed it! (lots of exclams!)

And faster my ass. Anything would be faster than WB3.0, more
to the point, both WB3.1 and WB3.5 are leagues faster than
DOpus 5.11 - why didn't you buy them instead of wasting your
money on some dumb offer to install crap buggy software on
your machine?

(I mean, would you install Windows 3.11 on your PC now, just
because it was on offer??)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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<HR><A NAME=mess40542></A><CENTER>Message 40542</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Bullock" &lt;tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: My OS3.5 prob
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:01:47 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; Any more ideas? :)
&gt; Yes, SnoopDOS.

Well, I already said it crashes opening helvetica.font (I don't think that's
the actual cause though)...

/me goes to make a SnoopDOS logfile...
/me starts Exchange



/me gasps in amazment as Exchange works!

Ok, I'm confused now, but it works, so I'm happy :) It didn't work last time I
tried it, and I haven't tried to get it working since then!

&gt; Have I given you a copy of my Reaction glyph.image recently?
&gt; That causes that problem on some (i.e. all :) machines - an
&gt; 8000 0003 GURU on starting up Reaction apps. It's my dodgy
&gt; startup code ;)

No, you hadn't :)

--
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http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
--
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<HR><A NAME=mess40543></A><CENTER>Message 40543</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Bullock" &lt;tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] AF133
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:15:53 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

Ok, here's my thoughts on the issue

1) The OS3.5 Guide. Good for the people who are having problems installing
OS3.5, but I didn't have any problems, so it wasn't much use to me. Still
informative though :)

2) Skipping back a bit, The front cover is cool :)

3) The Marblelous review looked a bit bland, although that's probably because
of the screenshots. Too much of that bluey grey colour. I don't suppose you
can help that, though, unless there are some more colourful levels you could
have used.

4) Dunno what I'd do without PD Select nowadays. I can never be bothered
wading through stuff on Aminet, so reading PD Select gives me some idea what I
should download

5) I was expecting something longer for the Tornado 3D review, but it was
still good, even though I'll probably nevber buy it :)

6) Good review of Digital Almanac II. And a welcome review from Nick ;)

7) Skipping back again, I thought Month in View was brilliant :) Dunno why,
though :)

8) Thought the Twister Mk2 review was good. Didn't care about the product, but
I founds lots of interesting stuff about Serial ports in there.

9) two and a half grand for a bleedin' monitor! Argh! (not your fault, though
:)

10) I always like articles about other OS(s|')s, and the Unix compenidum is no
exception.

11) Another 'too much of one colour' problem. Amiga.net looks decidedly odd :)

12) I liked the DOpus guide. Loads of things I didn't know in there, but I'm
still not going to use DOpus (incase you were wondering :)

Hmm... that's as far as I've got. I'll send more if I can find anything to
comment on :)

--
Neil Bullock
http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
--
If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!





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<HR><A NAME=mess40544></A><CENTER>Message 40544</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] AOL taking over Time Warner
<BR>Date: 11 Jan 2000 18:16:06 +0000
<BR><PRE>
I vaguely remember there being something about AOL being partnered with
gateway.  So does the buyout perchance have something to do with Gateway? 

Perhaps Gateway will produce (using Amiga patents and technology?) the set
top box everyone thinks AOL will produce to access Time Warners' back
catalogue of TV shows and films ...

Kev

-- 
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<HR><A NAME=mess40545></A><CENTER>Message 40545</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Just a test message - ignore it please!!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:31:51 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; And for a wild stab I reckon your aim was pretty good.
&gt; 
&gt; Well you know how it is, post often enought and one day I was bound to
&gt; get something right :)

You never know, I may be able to repeat that feat myself one day ;-)

Jon
-- 




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<HR><A NAME=mess40546></A><CENTER>Message 40546</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: old messages
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:34:39 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi
 
&gt; &gt;&gt; You`d possibly find it easier to get someone to do an Imagine series...
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Possibly, but no-one's come forward yet...
&gt; 
&gt; I'm writing I'm writing!!!
&gt; 
&gt; do you want a 1-off or a 3, 4, 5... issue spread?

How about one *every* month ;-)

Jon
-- 




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<HR><A NAME=mess40547></A><CENTER>Message 40547</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Zip drives
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:39:47 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Paul

&gt; &gt; &gt; Paul C, waiting for next Saturday
&gt;
&gt; &gt; OK then, sorry folks...why?
&gt;
&gt; Because
&gt; a) I can go back to Curry's and buy the Zip drive (if I don't get one
&gt; second hand from someone...)

Oi C.  NO.

Come on, support the few Amiga dealers we have left.  OK so they may be a little more expensive, but what do you expect with their
volumes.  They support Amiga, we should support them.

That`s if you buy a new one of course....

Jon
--




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<HR><A NAME=mess40548></A><CENTER>Message 40548</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ben? A question of copyright.
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:59:54 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Tim

&gt; &gt; I uploaded some stuff to Aminet which had some samples of
&gt; &gt; possible-copyright-infringement, but AF downloaded it and used it of
&gt; &gt; their own accord. Which was nice.
&gt; 
&gt; Sprung!!!!  (as we used to say in high school).  He's even written out
&gt; his confession.  ;-)

Curses!  And I'd've gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

-- 
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This week's lie: Submarines are used to smuggle hair into Japan.



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<HR><A NAME=mess40549></A><CENTER>Message 40549</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Me = LOL!
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:03:13 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Ben

&gt; &gt; rogue apostrophe in a coverdisk page and I'm not sure (though I'm sure
&gt; &gt; I'll be corrected/cussed) but I think it's bad practice to draw a pie
&gt; &gt; chart in such a way as to have the slices in the order of size/area, so
&gt;
&gt; Actually, that was the order of the answers (they went from small values
to
&gt; large) given too.

Y'know, it took me a while to get that one :-)

&gt; 
&gt; All the best,
&gt; -- 
&gt; Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
&gt; Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
&gt; +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
&gt; Doctors lash out at backlash against whiplash

Have you subbed to The Weekly?

--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: Submarines are used to smuggle hair into Japan.




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<HR><A NAME=mess40550></A><CENTER>Message 40550</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ben? A question of copyright.
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:05:24 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Ben

&gt; &gt; As I say (he says, stepping back slightly), AF put this on their CD of
&gt; &gt; their own accord. I didn't even know it was on there til I got an
&gt; &gt; phonecall (!) from somebody who was having troubles with it.
&gt;
&gt; Neither did I, otherwise it wouldn't have been.

I can appreciate given your circumstances that you've probably got a helluva
lot more work to do as editor than other editors (of different mags, natch),
but who does check what goes on to the CD?  And how does the selection
process work, is it just everything new that gets uploaded?

&gt; All the best,
&gt; --
&gt; Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
&gt; Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
&gt; +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
&gt; Very Few Calls For TV Listings Magazines To Show Broadcast Times
&gt; Adjusted For Reader's Velocity As A Proportion Of The Speed Of Light

Definitely subbed up then :-)

--
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<HR><A NAME=mess40551></A><CENTER>Message 40551</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: TagLine (ever so slightly OT)
<BR>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:09:51 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Nick

&gt; Ben's taglines, always being an interesting read: -)
&gt;
&gt; &gt; f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng.
&gt;
&gt; Ahh: If You Can Read This You Can Get A Good Job In Computer Programming
&gt;
&gt; Woooohhoooo! :-)  Lots of nice lovely money! :-)

Hmm, I think the only part of programming that skill helps you with is
coming up with variable names ;-)

--
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WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: Submarines are used to smuggle hair into Japan.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40552></A><CENTER>Message 40552</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tom Underwood" &lt;tom.underwood@tesco.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: OS 3.5
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:00:10 -0000
<BR><PRE>

Hi Paul

&gt; You mean you've /got/ 10 Downing Street? Since when? I thought Crazy
&gt; Abdul was auctioning it next week?

Yup, I thought Blair might have noticed by now :) Guess he's too busy
worrying about the Dome being a cock-up :)

Speaking of which, if the Dome is a flop, I hear that Crazy Ralph will try
and sell it on the black market :)

Tom U, Heaven can wait





</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40553></A><CENTER>Message 40553</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tom Underwood" &lt;tom.underwood@tesco.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: net time
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:00:19 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Neil

&gt; &gt; Oh, alright. So who's fault is that then?
&gt; 
&gt; Not mine, blame someone else :-/

How about ...

... [everyone] The Parents :)

Tom U, Trapped inside this prison




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40554></A><CENTER>Message 40554</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: AMOS + sundries
<BR>Date: 22 Dec 99 02:15:17 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Andrew Crowe &lt;andrewcrowe@enterprise.net&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  21-Dec-99 00:07:49
 Re:  [afb] Re: AMOS + sundries

Hi Andrew,

&gt;    You can download a full copy of AmosPro and the compiler from:
&gt;
&gt;    http://back2roots.emuunlim.com/

None of the get (download) links worked.  I'm using the latest demo
version of IBrowse, by the way.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40555></A><CENTER>Message 40555</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Active (was Schatztruhe)
<BR>Date: 22 Dec 99 02:28:13 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  21-Dec-99 07:49:00
 Re:  [afb] Re: Active (was Schatztruhe)

Hi Will,

&gt; I also had a question published about extending keyboard leads but I
&gt; felt  that the answer was best-guess rather than from any electronics
&gt; knowledge.  I would actually like to know why extending IDE leads or
&gt; keyboard leads can  blow the output chip. Is it because of an
&gt; increased load at high  frequencies (due to the capacitance of the
&gt; leads,) or what?

Because longer leads can pick up interference from other devices, and
what you're connected to hasn't got protective circuitry to look after
this.  Chances are though, that you wouldn't damage things, just that it
wouldn't work so well with the long lead.

Having said that, my A1200 has a long ribbon lead from the keyboard to
my re-housed motherboard (and other peripherals), I did get some
interference, so I wrapped the lead in kitchen foil, and grounded one
end of it (old audio tech's trick for quickly eliminating noise when out
in the field - it's rumoured that one of our state television
broadcasters had a device, up at the transmitter site, wrapped up in a
turned inside-out foiled lined hot chicken bag for years, to eliminate
the interference it picked up).

&gt;&gt; We're a diverse bunch of people.  I'm sure no one would complain about
&gt;&gt; the occasional hardware project, and as it stands, this is an area
&gt;&gt; that's not covered by AF.

&gt; My A1200 is powered by a PC power supply which I adapted for the
&gt; Amiga. It  cost me 12 as against the then 50+ for an Amiga one. Dead
&gt; easy project  which could easily be covered. For more advanced
&gt; readers, how about using  an A500 as an oscilloscope or storage
&gt; display unit? Well within its capacity.

I seriously doubt the A500 would have enough capability to do a useful
job of that.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40556></A><CENTER>Message 40556</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Active (was Schatztruhe)
<BR>Date: 22 Dec 99 02:08:27 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Neil Bothwick &lt;neil@wire.net.uk&gt;
 To:  Will &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  21-Dec-99 03:45:19
 Re:  [afb] Re: Active (was Schatztruhe)

Hi Neil,

&gt;&gt; Actually, Maplin do a relay interface board which works off a
&gt;&gt; centronics port and I have wondered about trying that. Evidently it
&gt;&gt; changes the printer commands into relay on/off and timing commands.

&gt; So you only need a "printer driver" and then you print the commands?
&gt; Would it work with an Amiga parallel port with its different handling
&gt; of bidirectional signals?

I seem to remember that the Amiga was one of the first to actually have
a parallel port (as opposed to a printer port), where all eight DATA
bits were actually properly bidirectional.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40557></A><CENTER>Message 40557</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: [IML] Amiga: Anyone want a 3000? (fwd)
<BR>Date: 22 Dec 99 02:16:27 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
 To:  Amiga Format Bulletin &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  21-Dec-99 01:14:46
 Re:  [afb] [IML] Amiga: Anyone want a 3000? (fwd)

Hi Matthew,

&gt; you might wanna give this guy a bell, not really an ad, more like a
&gt; grouping of users and machines :)
&gt;
&gt; *** Begin of forwarded message ***
&gt;
&gt; Date: 19-Dec-99 23:47:19
&gt; From: Jon Rubin &lt;floater@INTERPORT.NET&gt;
&gt; Subject: [IML] Amiga: Anyone want a 3000?

But where is he?  (What country.)

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40558></A><CENTER>Message 40558</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Cor! Isn't it quite here?
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:53:52 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi.

Goes to show how many people post from work eh?

The number of postings on this group during the working day has gone
rapidly
down hill.

Regards

Mikey C




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40559></A><CENTER>Message 40559</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: afb-ot (WAS:UKOnline getting more unreliable)
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:44:49 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi fool

&gt; &gt;&gt; It still amazes me that no-one actually knows what goes on over at
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Maybe we don't *want* to know what goes on in afb-ot? ;P
&gt;
&gt; Oh yes you do! (well it is panto season, and yes, I know I've already used
&gt; that one on afb-ot, but I liked it so much I thought it deserved a wider
&gt; audience :)

Oh no it doesn't!

:-)

--
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ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, also
invented the wigwam, the blue cross sale, rabbits, wood and the number 59.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40560></A><CENTER>Message 40560</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Worms
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:46:59 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Kevin

&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Paul C, who bought Worms after getting the AF demo
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It should have won the AF reader game competition that was set,
&gt; and missed
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; out to Charlie Chimp or whatever it was.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; It was a reader game? When was that?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Wowzers!  I knew it was originally developed on the Amiga, but I
&gt; didn't know
&gt; &gt; it was an AF reader game!  Yet another exclusive for AF eh?
&gt;
&gt; It was NEVER a reader game. AF ran a competition, Worms was one of the
&gt; entrants, and it DIDN'T win, so it DIDN'T become a reader game.
&gt; Instead,
&gt; Team 17 were shown the game and the rest (as they say) is history ...

Oh, in that case change my last statement to:

Ha ha!  I bet AF feel pretty silly now, don't they!

--
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WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, also
invented the wigwam, the blue cross sale, rabbits, wood and the number 59.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40561></A><CENTER>Message 40561</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Cor! Isn't it quite here?
<BR>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:01:03 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Micky

&gt; Goes to show how many people post from work eh?

&gt; The number of postings on this group during the working day has gone
&gt; rapidly
&gt; down hill.

I thought something must be wrong when I only downloaded 44 mails for today.
Then it clicked: oh for the student life ;-)  Get used to it for another
couple of weeks.

Hows about some biased polls  ;-)

Jon

Shhh.  It`s oh so quite.





</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40562></A><CENTER>Message 40562</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:09:45 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 14:08 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt; &gt; Hi Ian
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality????
&gt; &gt; I
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I think that's a good point - whilst PCs have many faults, I
&gt; &gt;&gt; have had to reformat and salvage partitions on my Amiga one hell of a
&gt; &gt;&gt; lot more times than my brother has on his PC. The Amiga isn't the
&gt; &gt;&gt; perfect computer, (it has it's share of problems) it's the one that I
&gt; &gt;&gt; love using - so let's not slag off other machines for the fun of
&gt; &gt;&gt; it (although it is most definitely fun! :)
&gt;
&gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard harddisk
&gt; &gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.
&gt;
&gt;The answer to that is change your filesystem to something like PFS

Shouldn't have to - the operating system should work properly as supplied.

Cheers,

Will



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40563></A><CENTER>Message 40563</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 17:09:01 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 02-Jan-00, Will wrote:

&gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality???? I 
&gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most 
&gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.

Why? I haven't used a salvage proggy in over a year, and I've installed
workbench once, when I got my machine.....

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

A Borg, A Ferengi, and a Romulan walk into Dan Quayle.







</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40564></A><CENTER>Message 40564</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:34:01 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 16:09 02/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;On 02-Jan-00, Will wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality???? I
&gt; &gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most
&gt; &gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
&gt;
&gt;Why? I haven't used a salvage proggy in over a year, and I've installed
&gt;workbench once, when I got my machine.....

I suspect that the problem is that there were several different versions of 
motherboards and if a particular version works well with whatever version 
of WB you have then fine. If not, however, who do you turn to?

One thing I noticed, when Gateway said they were going to produce a new 
Amiga and Mr Collas was busy making his ridiculous speeches there was a 
singular absence of a help site or email help service hosted by them. 
However, whilst Mr Collas was busy slagging off Microsoft, Microsoft 
themselves quietly kept updating their free service of critical updates and 
looking after their customers.

Will




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40565></A><CENTER>Message 40565</CENTER><BR>
From :"Steven Holmes" &lt;s.holmes@free4all.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] AmiMasterGear
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:36:32 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi all,

I have in the last few days downloaded the latest version of said
emulator. (0.62)
Does anyone else have the problem that on pressing any fire button, the
emulator goes back to the GUI from the game?

I have used previous versions with no probs. Is this a new bug?


Steven Holmes





</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40566></A><CENTER>Message 40566</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ian Shurmer" &lt;shurm@messages.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: 17 Jan 2162 11:17:23 +0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; &lt;html&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;pre&gt;
&gt; At 14:08 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi Ian
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality????
&gt; &gt; &gt; I
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I think that's a good point - whilst PCs have many faults, I
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; have had to reformat and salvage partitions on my Amiga one hell of a
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; lot more times than my brother has on his PC. The Amiga isn't the
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; perfect computer, (it has it's share of problems) it's the one that I
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; love using - so let's not slag off other machines for the fun of
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; it (although it is most definitely fun! :)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard harddisk
&gt; &gt; &gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;The answer to that is change your filesystem to something like PFS
&gt; 
&gt; Shouldn't have to - the operating system should work properly as supplied.

Indeed. Plus as a 16 yr old student , i don't have the amount of cash
to warrant having to pay the 40/50 quid to buy PFS (it's either OS3.5
or this.) And then there's the hassle of having to reformat and
reinstall all the software on the hard drive - the exact thing i`m
trying to avoid in the first place :-) 

Cheers,

Ian

Powered by AMIGA in Norwich


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40567></A><CENTER>Message 40567</CENTER><BR>
From :"Malcolm Harnden" &lt;malky@nobleone.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Web Directory
<BR>Date: 2 Jan 100 23:27:41 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Don`t try to be a great man just be a man and let history make it`s own Judgments.

On StarDate:- Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:41:41 -0000

The following was added to the ships log:- [afb] Re: Amiga Web Directory



&gt; Hi Sandy/Dauber
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD? Perhaps we can all
&gt; &gt; &gt; "donate" a small section of personal web space for a certain category,
&gt; &gt; &gt; like dealers,or mags, hardware tip links, etc.?? I have a coupla megs to
&gt; &gt; &gt; spare....
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I've space, too, but it would need severe co-ordination.
&gt; 
&gt; I`ve not got around to doing a site as yet (I`m a boring sod, nothing to put on one) so I`ve got a full 20 Meg to play with.  A lot
&gt; of the stuff on AWD could be shifted to remote sites IMO, for example the company index, still pretty useful for web addresses, but
&gt; wouldn`t require much attention.
&gt; 
I havn't got time to do anything with my site so you could have that
as well.
-- 
Via the keyboard of:-
Malcolm Harnden
malky@nobleone.u-net.com
http://www.nobleone.u-net.com




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40568></A><CENTER>Message 40568</CENTER><BR>
From :"Malcolm Harnden" &lt;malky@nobleone.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: 2 Jan 100 23:31:56 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Don`t try to be a great man just be a man and let history make it`s own Judgments.

On StarDate:- Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:30:54 +0000

The following was added to the ships log:- [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

SNIP
&gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality???? I 
&gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most 
&gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
SNIP

Perhaps you should make PFS3 your most valuable bit of Amiga Software
then you'll be able to say Yar Boo Sucks to PC owners.

-- 
Only the Amiga makes it possible.
Malcolm Harnden
malky@nobleone.u-net.com
http://www.nobleone.u-net.com

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<HR><A NAME=mess40569></A><CENTER>Message 40569</CENTER><BR>
From :"Patrick Wesseling" &lt;p_wesseling@hotmail.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] External ZIP drive on Amiga
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:09:49 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga 500/600? I
think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.

Patrick Wesseling


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40570></A><CENTER>Message 40570</CENTER><BR>
From :=?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= MARTIN &lt;family.martin@wanadoo.fr&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:20:18 +0200
<BR><PRE>
Bonsoir,

Is the last version of V stable ?
I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.

 bientt...
-- 
Stphan - family.martin@wanadoo.fr -



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40571></A><CENTER>Message 40571</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: External ZIP drive on Amiga
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:29:42 -0500
<BR><PRE>
&gt;Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga 500/600? I
&gt;think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.


If the Zip drive is a SCSI drive and you have a SCSI controller, it should
work fine.

If you have a Surf Squirrel on your A600, don't expect it to work -- use a
"classic" Squirrel instead.

You may need a mount list...I use one on my A4000...



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40572></A><CENTER>Message 40572</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bafb=5D_V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:30:27 -0500
<BR><PRE>
&gt;Is the last version of V stable ?
&gt;I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.


I've been using the demo version of 2.1, and I've never had a crash from it;
worst that happened was that some Javascript image rollovers wouldn't work
100%...

Guess I'm just lucky...



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40573></A><CENTER>Message 40573</CENTER><BR>
From :"AmiFreak@chello.nl" &lt;b.beukhof@chello.nl&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: AmiMasterGear
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 10:41:44 -0800
<BR><PRE>
"steven holmes" &lt;s.holme-@free4all.co.uk&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41269
&gt; Hi all,
&gt; 
&gt; I have in the last few days downloaded the latest version of said
&gt; emulator. (0.62)
&gt; Does anyone else have the problem that on pressing any fire button,
the
&gt; emulator goes back to the GUI from the game?
&gt; 
&gt; I have used previous versions with no probs. Is this a new bug?
&gt; 

I've just downloaded version 0.81 and it works fine for me. I did
however 
have the same problem a while back but that was caused by a broken 
competition pro cd32 pad.

&gt; 
&gt; Steven Holmes
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40574></A><CENTER>Message 40574</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:45:50 +0000
<BR><PRE>



&gt;Perhaps you should make PFS3 your most valuable bit of Amiga Software
&gt;then you'll be able to say Yar Boo Sucks to PC owners.

Amiga owners saying Yar Boo Sucks to PC owners is a bit like the scene from 
The Holy Grail with the knight still shouting abuse even though he has no 
arms and no legs.

Cheers,

Will



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40575></A><CENTER>Message 40575</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:48:39 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 17:20 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;Bonsoir,
&gt;
&gt;Is the last version of V=B3 stable ?
&gt;I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.

I have been through exactly the same tiresome thing. Use Internet Explorer=
=20
- it knocks the socks off any Amiga browser and use the Amiga for other=20
things, that's what I do.

Cheers,

Will




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40576></A><CENTER>Message 40576</CENTER><BR>
From :Ken Walsh &lt;bigken@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] scsi
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:20:57 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

    I put my old Blizzard 1230-III with the scsi interface into a second hand
A1200 which I bought last week (with 3.1 ROMS) then updated it to OS3.5. The
trouble is my scsi HDs which are connected to it are slow to recognise the
scsi inteterface. There was a fix for a similar problem found on my other
A1200 with this scsi. I have put the scsi fix '1230ScsiFix' into the C: and
put the bit in S:startup-sequence

C:SetPatch QUIET

1230ScsiFix &gt;NIL: RESIDENT    

Note after setpatch. This used to work on my other machine and was working
fine on my old machine with this before upgrading to a Blizzard 1260/50 with
scsi.

My scsi chain is all working on my A1200 with the 1260scsi but the same chain
hooked onto the 1230 scsi does not work the same takes ages to boot-up. All
the devices are set as 1230scsi.device (which is the same for the 1260)

Does anyone know what this could be. I did managed to get the scsi HD's
working and copy stuff over but it was very slow. 

See You

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken 




  



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40577></A><CENTER>Message 40577</CENTER><BR>
From :"George Bayliss" &lt;bayliss@georth.demon.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Monitors
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 16:00:44 +0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Hello,
&gt; 
&gt; Now, after all my indecision, I'm going for a PPC and BlizzardVision.
&gt; 
&gt; Now I would like a really cheap, high resolution, crisp displaying, large,
&gt; high refresh- capable monitor.
&gt; 
&gt; (Don't we all)
&gt; 
&gt; Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?

  I got my 17" Belenia 10 30 15 from Software warehouse for 160 IIRC.
Its about the cheapest 17" monitior I could find. I run it at 1024 by
768 in16 bit off my BVision. Alternativly you could go for a 15" from
Viewsonic, Sony, Iiyama or Mitsubishi these are a bit cheaper but are
probably better built than mine.

  Basicly, if you want a cheap monitor you either have to sacrifice
size or quality or go for a reconditioned model. 


  Chris Bayliss


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40578></A><CENTER>Message 40578</CENTER><BR>
From :Samuel Byford &lt;sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Czech News Leaving as well?
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 06:00:07 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hello,

Well, thats a blow.  First CUCUG leaves us, now it looks as though Czech =
Amiga News could, too.

Its not definate, but here's a short quote from their site:

"Another year, in which we brought you dailey news from the world of Amig=
a, has passed.  We are standing at the cross road once again, and as one =
year ago, we have to do our decision upon further continuation or closure=
 of Czech Amiga News service...........So we decided to wait for further =
happenings, at least till 21st March of 2000.  This date is of some speci=
al meaning to us, but we will not tell you right now :-)  So we give exac=
tly 81 days to all players on the Amiga field, to prove us, that our effo=
rt is worth it."
 =

Will they close?  I for one hope not as they are a damn good news/info so=
urce.

TTFN,
-- =

Bifford the Youngest
(Sam Byford)
Visit my site:
  http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com
 ICQ: 52983236
 IRC:  IRCNet on AmIRC or Pub
        BeyondIRC on HarryHomers



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40579></A><CENTER>Message 40579</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Monitors
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:32:00 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt; &gt; Does anyone know where I can get a good SVGA monitor on the cheap?

Pet subject here, I have several monitors - all ranging from 14" to 17" all 
with digital front controls except for one. My old DELL with rotary 
controls, superb colour and crystal clear, it screen knocks the spots off 
all the others I have. I have been told that Dell monitors are made by 
Philips but I can't vouch for it.

It would be a good idea to actually look at the picture quality before you 
buy, after all you may be spending many, many hours in front of it.

Poor quality is remembered long after the small saving in price is forgotten.

Cheers,

Will

Southport England.


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40580></A><CENTER>Message 40580</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: scsi
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:23:10 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt;My scsi chain is all working on my A1200 with the 1260scsi but the same chain
&gt;hooked onto the 1230 scsi does not work the same takes ages to boot-up. All
&gt;the devices are set as 1230scsi.device (which is the same for the 1260)
&gt;
&gt;Does anyone know what this could be. I did managed to get the scsi HD's
&gt;working and copy stuff over but it was very slow.

I have a CDROM via a scsi port on one of my 1200s and it literally takes 5 
mins to boot up, I just go and make a cup of tea, seems to cure it.

Cheers,

Will

Southport England.




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40581></A><CENTER>Message 40581</CENTER><BR>
From :"Phil Ellis" &lt;phil_ellis@bigfoot.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: 03 Jan 00 18:20:50 +0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt;At 00:50 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;&gt;On 03-Jan-00 Alex Furmanski wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard
&gt;&gt; &gt; harddisk to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall
&gt;&gt; &gt; Windows.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;True on my account - during the past month I have reformatted my
&gt;&gt;friends PC once (and not due to a bug) while my Amigas HD has needed
&gt;&gt;to revalidate itself about five times - last of them yesterday as Quake
&gt;&gt;PPC crashed during exit. :?(

I lost the web partition two days ago. My Amiga wouldn't even boot! No amount of
playing around with Disksalv would solve it. I had to delete the partition,
resize it and reformat to get the Amiga to boot normally. Life as an Amiga owner
isn't all a bed of roses.

All the best
Phil



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40582></A><CENTER>Message 40582</CENTER><BR>
From :Darren Silcock &lt;darren@d-m-s.fsnet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:32:55 +0100
<BR><PRE>
&gt; At 14:08 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Ian

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo
&gt;&gt; mentality????
&gt;&gt;&gt; I
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my
&gt;&gt; most
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I think that's a good point - whilst PCs have many faults, I
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; have had to reformat and salvage partitions on my Amiga one hell of a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lot more times than my brother has on his PC. The Amiga isn't the
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; perfect computer, (it has it's share of problems) it's the one that I
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; love using - so let's not slag off other machines for the fun of
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it (although it is most definitely fun! :)

&gt;&gt;&gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard
&gt;&gt; harddisk
&gt;&gt;&gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.

&gt;&gt; The answer to that is change your filesystem to something like PFS

&gt; Shouldn't have to - the operating system should work properly as supplied.

Yes but it will stop re-validation as it is not or ever required with PFS. 
Something to do with it only writes from valid state to valid state (I
think), So a partition/HD will never become invalid and fail to full.

THEREFORE you should never have to wait for your HD to validate if a write
operation screws up. 

Regards

Darren



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40583></A><CENTER>Message 40583</CENTER><BR>
From :Adam Burrows &lt;aymiay@uk2.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: thump
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:46:20 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On the 01-Jan-00, a layman by the name of "Matthew O'Neill" did enscribe =
unto stone:

&gt; agggh!, the little people in my head wont leave me alone :/ stop playin=
g
&gt; the goddam steel drums up there! :P

Go seek psyciatric help from a phyciatrist...

-- =

Kind regards,

Adam Burrows
Email: &lt;aymiay@uk2.net&gt;
ICQ: 35227475
Homepage: &lt;http://aymiay.n3.net&gt;
Mailing list: &lt;http://www.egroups.com/group/fe2/fullinfo.html&gt;=



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40584></A><CENTER>Message 40584</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ian Shurmer" &lt;shurm@messages.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Web Directory
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 19:45:40 +0000
<BR><PRE>

Hi kids!

&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Why don't we all pitch in and put together a new AWD? Perhaps we can all
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#34;donate&#34; a small section of personal web space for a certain category,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; like dealers,or mags, hardware tip links, etc.?? I have a coupla megs to
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; spare....
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I've space, too, but it would need severe co-ordination.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I`ve not got around to doing a site as yet (I`m a boring sod, nothing to put on one) so I`ve got a full 20 Meg to play with.  A lot
&gt; &gt; of the stuff on AWD could be shifted to remote sites IMO, for example the company index, still pretty useful for web addresses, but
&gt; &gt; wouldn`t require much attention.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; I havn't got time to do anything with my site so you could have that
&gt; as well.

I`ve got about 3 different accounts worth of web space (about 50MB in
total I think. maybe more) that I don't have time to use - you're
welcome to that if you want....

Cheers,

Ian Shurmer

Powered by AMIGA in Norwich


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40585></A><CENTER>Message 40585</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:56:30 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 18:20 03/01/00 , you wrote:

&gt;I lost the web partition two days ago. My Amiga wouldn't even boot! No 
&gt;amount of
&gt;playing around with Disksalv would solve it. I had to delete the partition,
&gt;resize it and reformat to get the Amiga to boot normally. Life as an Amiga 
&gt;owner
&gt;isn't all a bed of roses.

I have had exactly that, what I ended up doing was reinstalling WB on the 
other partition and that seemed to cure it.

Cheers,

Will


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40586></A><CENTER>Message 40586</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alex Furmanski" &lt;a.furmanski@virgin.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:53:13 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Matthew

&gt; &gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo mentality????
I
&gt; &gt; have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over the years, my most
&gt; &gt; valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.
&gt;
&gt; Why? I haven't used a salvage proggy in over a year, and I've installed
&gt; workbench once, when I got my machine.....

I think we've seen plenty of evidence over the months, and this is just
another piece, of the fact that you're an "exception" ;-)

--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: The word "viper" was originally derived from the words
"biscuit" and "spongy".



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40587></A><CENTER>Message 40587</CENTER><BR>
From :Bert Volders &lt;bert@volders.demon.nl&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:06:45 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hey St=E9phan

On 03-jan-00, you wrote:

&gt; Bonsoir,
&gt; =

&gt; Is the last version of V stable ?
&gt; I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.

I used the V=B3 demo for the first time last thursday. Amazed by its spee=
d I immediately registered and till this moment I am not disapointed. And=
 yes, I did register IB2.1 too but it is not as good as 1.2. So if you'd =
ask me then I would say go for V=B3.
&gt; =

&gt; bientt...
Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

bert@volders.demon.nl
&lt;sb&gt;
Tag of the day:
Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everyone else.




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40588></A><CENTER>Message 40588</CENTER><BR>
From :"Drew Green" &lt;Drew.Green@btinternet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Reality Game Engine
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:25:50 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi!
Does anyone know if there are any webpages where I can get info or skeleton
disks from the Reality Game Engine (you know, the full-page ad in AF that
looked oh-so-tempting, until I bought it, and realised it was shite)?

Cheers,
Drew Green
=======================
Drew.Green@btinternet.com



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40589></A><CENTER>Message 40589</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__Re:_V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:35:33 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 20:06 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;Hey St=E9phan
&gt;
&gt;On 03-jan-00, you wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Bonsoir,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Is the last version of V stable ?
&gt; &gt; I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.
&gt;
&gt;I used the V=B3 demo for the first time last thursday. Amazed by its speed=
 I=20
&gt;immediately registered and till this moment I am not disapointed. And yes,=
=20
&gt;I did register IB2.1 too but it is not as good as 1.2. So if you'd ask me=
=20
&gt;then I would say go for V=B3.

I think one of my problems with IBrowse was their attitude. I received an=20
update which stopped the browser printing and I spoke to a HiSoft rep at=20
the (1997 I think,) Amiga show. "Oh, we didn't have time to check it before=
=20
the deadline." was what I got. Some service.

I have NEVER been able to get the SSL encryption to work, after a while I=20
just gave up.

I also paid out seven quid for an update book which turned out to be=20
virtually the same as the manual supplied with the original package.

Internet Explorer is great, it will run Macromedia Flash (shockwave,) full=
=20
Java with no problems at all, and with the free plug ins will display any=20
graphics you will encounter on the net including ART by AOL. It will also=20
play every video and audio format. As a new  format comes out so an update=
=20
is made available - generally free. There is just no comparison, I remember=
=20
reading a couple of years ago a comment in either AFormat or  CU Amiga=20
(can`t remember which,) that it was a good idea to use a PC for the web and=
=20
the Amiga for other things.

Regards,

Will


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40590></A><CENTER>Message 40590</CENTER><BR>
From :Sandy Brownlee &lt;sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:36:22 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hello Darren

On 03-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt; Yes but it will stop re-validation as it is not or ever required with PFS.
&gt; Something to do with it only writes from valid state to valid state (I
&gt; think), So a partition/HD will never become invalid and fail to full.
&gt; 
&gt; THEREFORE you should never have to wait for your HD to validate if a write
&gt; operation screws up. 

Though I have heard that when it does screw up, and it *does* occasionally,
the partition dies in spectacular style...

btw, I occasionally get an invalid HD due to bad software, but 99/100 times,
AmigaOS revalidates it on booting; it doesn't even take that long!

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
Sandy Brownlee
Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0
</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40591></A><CENTER>Message 40591</CENTER><BR>
From :Sandy Brownlee &lt;sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] 2 Questions- 1 old, 1 new
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:37:07 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hello,

1- I might have asked this recently b4- will the AmiJoe have a graphics card
available for it when it's released, or is that just thin air at present?

2- How much should I sell an Apollo 1240/40 + 32Mb (One of the Eyetech
overclocked 33MHz ones) for. I was hoping over a hundred pounds...

These are just to reassure myself b4 I make te leap to PPC+ BlizzardVision.

On that note- who still sells these GFX cards, I've heard they're not too
common now.

So that's three questions, really!

Regards,

        Sandy Brownlee

-- 
Sandy Brownlee
Email: sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0
</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40592></A><CENTER>Message 40592</CENTER><BR>
From :"Alastair Murray" &lt;Alastair.Murray@ukgateway.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amos docs
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:20:50 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt;&gt; I am programming on the Amiga in Amos and was wondering if anyone has s=
&gt;ome
&gt;&gt; docs/info about programming in Amos.

&gt;Well, the best advice I can give is, stop programming in Amos. (note the =
&gt;lack of smiley...)


I knew someone would give a helpful response like that.

Send a blank e-mail to:
amos-list-subscribe@onelist.com

-Murray




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40593></A><CENTER>Message 40593</CENTER><BR>
From :"Chris Green" &lt;editor@amigainsight.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: External ZIP drive on Amiga
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:50:33 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi

&gt; Is it possible to use my Iomega External ZIP-drive on a Amiga 500/600? I
&gt; think I heard that it was not possible but I am not sure.

Yes, providing you have a suitable SCSI interface (if it is SCSI) or if you
have the special cable (I think Blittersoft sell it) for Parallel use.

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40594></A><CENTER>Message 40594</CENTER><BR>
From : "Oliver Roberts" &lt;egroups@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: CUCUG RETIRES MAC WEB DIRECTORY TOO (Was CUCUG)
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 19:29:28 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On 03-Jan-00 11:35:14 GMT, Godzilla wrote:

&gt;&gt; Anybody else notice this?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; CUCUG stands for Champaign-Urbana [Illinois] Computer Users Group.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Interesting, especially since as of now the only computer users they
&gt; support
&gt;&gt; are Mac users.

&gt; Actually.. check THIS out...
&gt;
&gt; http://www.cucug.org/mac/index.html
&gt;
&gt; They scrapped every directory... hmm... I don't think Fleecy Moss had
&gt; anything to do with the Mac side..

Looks like the real reason for shutting down the web directories may
well be that the maintainers have simply got bored with updating the
sites, and no longer have the motivation.  This is the impression I
formed over the last few months as the AWD news page has been updated
far less frequently than it used to, say, a year ago.

If this is the case, then fair enough - you can't expect a person to
be interested in doing something for their whole life.  What I find
strange is why they didn't bother to pass the AWD on to a new owner.

-- 
 *Oliver Roberts*  -  Norwich, UK  -  Software Developer & Web Designer
 /oliver.roberts@iname.com/  |  /oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk/
 http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/  -  ICQ: 34640231
-- 
 The Amiga RC5 Team Effort ==&gt; http://distributed.amiga.org/
&lt;tsb&gt;



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40595></A><CENTER>Message 40595</CENTER><BR>
From :"Michael" &lt;Michael@MysticalAmiga.Freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: M.Sealey needs moderating
<BR>Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:16:35 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; Yeah...but then so do Microsoft...but I would'nt want to work for
&gt; &gt; them...they can ofcourse just give me the money or you can (either way
the more money
&gt; &gt; the happer I will become....really I take an bribes...I have no limit on
the
&gt; &gt; amount of money I can take...really!!)...though I am not Archer!!!
&gt;
&gt; Huh?  Are you saying you wouldn't work for IBM just 'cos they invented the
PC?
&gt; They do a lot of other stuff too, you know....
&gt;

No...I don't like big business....its easier to get fired!....and your easy
to replace....

IBM also help Motorola with PPC developement!

Michael




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40596></A><CENTER>Message 40596</CENTER><BR>
From :"J.N" &lt;jn_amimate@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Gameboy Emulator
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:32:58 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hello All.

I'm beggining to get into Gameboy emulation recently
(takes me back to the days of Mario World) but I cant
seem to find a good emulator for my system (A1200,030,
FPU,8MB, various speedup patches and hacks running).

AmiGameBoy looked promising, but it plays up on most
ROM files, so can anybody inform me about A fastish
Gameboy emulator that supports newer types of ROMs
and that will run on a system like mine.

Thanks in advance.

-
J.N
-



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40597></A><CENTER>Message 40597</CENTER><BR>
From :"Sean Courtney" &lt;dauber@wallnet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Gameboy Emulator
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:31:13 -0500
<BR><PRE>

-&gt;I'm beggining to get into Gameboy emulation recently
&gt;(takes me back to the days of Mario World) but I cant
&gt;seem to find a good emulator for my system (A1200,030,
&gt;FPU,8MB, various speedup patches and hacks running).


Have you tried WZonka-Lad??



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40598></A><CENTER>Message 40598</CENTER><BR>
From :"Steven Holmes" &lt;s.holmes@free4all.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:35:00 -0800
<BR><PRE>
=3D?iso-8859-1?q?st=3De9phan?=3D martin &lt;family.marti-@wanadoo.fr&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41274
&gt; Bonsoir,
&gt; 
&gt; Is the last version of V=B3 stable ?
&gt; I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.

It's a damn sight more stable than IB. I too am growing very tired of
IB crashing. Does it FAR too often, and updates aren't exactly flying
out.
It's almost as if they are conceding defeat to V=B3... 

Shame, I prefer IB, but I am using V=B3 more and more at the mo. I have
full versions of all 3 browsers...


Steven Holmes




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40599></A><CENTER>Message 40599</CENTER><BR>
From :"J.N" &lt;jn_amimate@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Gameboy Emulator
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:46:03 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hello all.

I said... 

I'm beggining to get into Gameboy emulation recently
takes me back to the days of Mario World) but I cant
seem to find a good emulator for my system (A1200,030,
FPU,8MB, various speedup patches and hacks running).

Sean courtney then said... 
Have you tried WZonka-Lad??

And now i'm saying...
No I havent, but i'm going to Aminet this very moment!!!

Thanks Sean. :)

-
J.N
-



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40600></A><CENTER>Message 40600</CENTER><BR>
From :"Steven Holmes" &lt;s.holmes@free4all.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: AmiMasterGear
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:50:22 -0800
<BR><PRE>
"amifreak@chello.nl" &lt;b.beukho-@chello.nl&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41277
&gt; "steven holmes" &lt;s.holme-@free4all.co.uk&gt; wrote: 
&gt; original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41269
&gt; &gt; Hi all,
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I have in the last few days downloaded the latest version of said
&gt; &gt; emulator. (0.62)
&gt; &gt; Does anyone else have the problem that on pressing any fire button,
&gt; the
&gt; &gt; emulator goes back to the GUI from the game?
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I have used previous versions with no probs. Is this a new bug?
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; I've just downloaded version 0.81 and it works fine for me. I did
&gt; however 
&gt; have the same problem a while back but that was caused by a broken 
&gt; competition pro cd32 pad.

Thanks for the info. Just downloaded 0.81 and the problem is still
there.
I'm going to check it with my CBM CD=B3=B2 pad to rule out my competition
pro CD=B3=B2 pad.


Steven Holmes




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40601></A><CENTER>Message 40601</CENTER><BR>
From :Paul Crellin &lt;p.crellin@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Recent events in Amiga-land
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:04:53 +0000
<BR><PRE>

&gt; 
&gt; I'm not giving up mine just yet, but then I have a Mac here, to fill
&gt; in the gaps. Other people can't afford that two-computer luxury.
&gt; 
&gt; Regards,
&gt; Jonny. (Hanging on in there).

Well said that man.

 As an Amiga loving lorry driver who works an average 70 hour week and
then has to watch and force a smile as his wife takes all his lovly
money and spends it on mortgages, food and clothes for kids and other
such secondary items I would like to second that last statment.

While I have used the daughters pc it seems a bit 'sterile' to me.
It's just there to do a job. The Amiga may be falling behind with
every day that passes but I still use it because it is fun and it
somehow feels that it was made by real people that cared what they
were doing.

I couldn't afford a new computer even if I wanted one and have to
grovel horribly when I want to upgrade my Amiga but for sheer
enjoyment it's still the only one in my book.

Well thats my bit for what it's worth.

See you P.C.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40602></A><CENTER>Message 40602</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amos docs
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:07:02 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 19:20 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; I am programming on the Amiga in Amos and was wondering if anyone has s=
&gt; &gt;ome
&gt; &gt;&gt; docs/info about programming in Amos.

Somewhere I have some info/docs on this what were you looking for exactly.

Will.


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40603></A><CENTER>Message 40603</CENTER><BR>
From :"mark bradford" &lt;bloggs96@yahoo.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 14:11:00 -0800
<BR><PRE>
i have heard from a few freinds that this soon to be service is a hoax
do any other members know anything about this? They must have thousands
of people interested,0800 access 7 days a week email etc.Too good to be
true??  

Mark



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40604></A><CENTER>Message 40604</CENTER><BR>
From : "Oliver Roberts" &lt;egroups@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] ANNOUNCE: WarpJPEG 44.3 + WarpPNG 44.1
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 21:30:27 +0000
<BR><PRE>
A new version of WarpJPEG.datatype (44.3) is now available, and it's
now much, much faster than before (at least 35-60% faster!).  It is now
by far the fastest JPEG datatype currently available.  For more details
and to download it, goto:

  http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/warpjpeg.html

I am also pleased to announce the first release of WarpPNG.datatype,
which is already the king, speed-wise, of PNG datatypes, offering
comparable performance boosts as WarpJPEG.  For more details, goto:

  http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/warppng.html

Both will be available on Aminet within the next few days.

-- 
 *Oliver Roberts*  -  Norwich, UK  -  Software Developer & Web Designer
 /oliver.roberts@iname.com/  |  /oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk/
 http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/  -  ICQ: 34640231
-- 
 F1GP-Ed Web Site  ==&gt;  http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/F1GP-Ed/
&lt;tsb&gt;



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40605></A><CENTER>Message 40605</CENTER><BR>
From :Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= &lt;jani.makitalo@saunalahti.fi&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:12:24 +0300
<BR><PRE>
On 03-Jan-00 Will wrote:

&gt; Glad I am not the only one who has had this. If it wasn't for
&gt; Disksalve I would have lost my data umpteen times over the last few
&gt; years. BTW I also have Upper Disk Tools which is a waste of time.

Well, my problems werent so severe - I had just to boot without startup
(or from WB3.0 diskette)  and the HD gives off sounds of mild torture
for twenty minutes, then it is bootable again. A good thing the
validation process is automatic; I have no idea as to how to do it
manually. My only serious HD crash was with my 4.1gig drive which lost
its partitions - I was able to recover only the first one.

&gt; Will

- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40606></A><CENTER>Message 40606</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:24:58 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 22:11 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt;i have heard from a few freinds that this soon to be service is a hoax
&gt;do any other members know anything about this? They must have thousands
&gt;of people interested,0800 access 7 days a week email etc.Too good to be
&gt;true??

A friend of mine signed up to a service called 08004u which boasted 24/7 
free service and so far has got nothing and is trying to get his money back.

I am with btinternet (not btclick,) and it is the best I have tried - free 
access every weekend and they have allowed free access for the last 10 days 
over the holiday period. Also a terrific help line and fast access speeds.

Will




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40607></A><CENTER>Message 40607</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Recent events in Amiga-land
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:34:06 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hello,

Signposts along the wayside all seem to be pointing in a very terminal 
direction.

Talk is cheap, for a reminder of the emptiness of past promises check out:-

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-344648.html?tag=

It was all just a load of dingo`s kidneys.

Will.


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40608></A><CENTER>Message 40608</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:37:42 +0000
<BR><PRE>

&gt;  had just to boot without startup
&gt;(or from WB3.0 diskette)  and the HD gives off sounds of mild torture
&gt;for twenty minutes, then it is bootable again.

Funny that, you have just reminded me of that whining noise I have got from 
the HD.

Will



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40609></A><CENTER>Message 40609</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Bullock" &lt;tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:57:10 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; A friend of mine signed up to a service called 08004u which boasted 24/7
&gt; free service and so far has got nothing and is trying to get his money back.
&gt;
&gt; I am with btinternet (not btclick,) and it is the best I have tried - free
&gt; access every weekend and they have allowed free access for the last 10 days
&gt; over the holiday period. Also a terrific help line and fast access speeds.

Ok, I think I'll plug screaming.net then :) Not having tried BTInternet (and
not really wanting to :) I can't comment on that, but Screaming.net have
recently got a very good system from no-where, and now I haven't had an enaged
tong when trying to connect since they upgraded (a couple of months ago). I'm
also getting betweek 4 and 7k/sec download rates, and they've recently upped
their disconnection time to 3 hours, rather than two :)

And it's free every weekday after 6pm (till 8am the next day) and all weekend.
The only real catch is that you have to change phone companies from BT To
LocalTel, but Localtel are 10% cheaper than BT anyway, use the same network
(Localtel are BT resellers) and offer the same services as BT!

Oh, and to sign up, you need a pdf viewer, as the Localtel signup form is in
PDF format (http://www.localtel.co.uk). Localtel will contact BT on your
behalf, and if BT don't transfer your account within a certain time, Localtel
will probably end up suing BT again :))

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot.





</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40610></A><CENTER>Message 40610</CENTER><BR>
From :chris &lt;cmillar@amigappc.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Recent events in Amiga-land
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 23:18:27 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hello Paul

On 03-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt; As an Amiga loving lorry driver who works an average 70 hour week and
&gt; then has to watch and force a smile as his wife takes all his lovly
&gt; money and spends it on mortgages, food and clothes for kids and other
&gt; such secondary items I would like to second that last statment.

Ha!  And I thought I was the only Amiga-loving-trucker in the UK.  :)

Btw, I used to work the same hours as you but since moving to night-shift,
it's been reduced to around 48 hours. :-)

Regards

chris
-- 
 Are you threatening me?  I am the Great Cornholio!  I need TeePee for my
 bunghole.
-- Beavis, Beavis & Butthead

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40611></A><CENTER>Message 40611</CENTER><BR>
From :"Roy Leith" &lt;r.m.leith@btinternet.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__V=B3?=
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:23:43 -0800
<BR><PRE>
will &lt;wills-plac-@engineer.com&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D41279
&gt; At 17:20 03/01/00 , you wrote:
&gt; &gt;Bonsoir,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Is the last version of V=B3 stable ?
&gt; &gt;I'm very tired of the IBrowse 2.1 crashes and I'm ready to change.
&gt; 
&gt; I have been through exactly the same tiresome thing. Use Internet
Explorer 
&gt; - it knocks the socks off any Amiga browser and use the Amiga for
other 
&gt; things, that's what I do.
&gt; 
I use V3 rather than IE or NS Communicator because I can be on the net
and browsing before 
the PC has got past the WIN95 splash screen.  The only thing I can't
use it for
is afb, for which I use buggy Ibrowse 2.1.

One other noticeable problem with V3 are some problems printing frames.
 Other than that, 
it does seem pretty stable and has a shockwave implementation, but
cannot match the PC
platform for other plugins. 

Regards
Roy Leith 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40612></A><CENTER>Message 40612</CENTER><BR>
From :Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= &lt;jani.makitalo@saunalahti.fi&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Quake total conversions
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 01:39:30 +0300
<BR><PRE>
Hello,

Has anyone tried the total conversion packs with the Quake PPC port? Id
like to know if they work with it before forking out $$$ (or , EURO,
FIM, whatever :).

- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40613></A><CENTER>Message 40613</CENTER><BR>
From :dopus@ozemail.com.au
<BR>Subject: [afb] Anyone got a handle on Amino??
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:03:16 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi.

Anyone out there know what is happeining with Amino Development
Corporation? Aparently they have bought the Amiga name, but no patents,
and Bill McEwan is the CEO.

Seems a bit pointless, as Gateway seem to still have the OS and custom
chips etc.

If anyone knows anything concrete, I would love to know.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40614></A><CENTER>Message 40614</CENTER><BR>
From :=?iso-8859-1?q?Ant's=20Spam?= &lt;spam_mail250@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Gameboy Emulator
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:02:44 -0800 (PST)
<BR><PRE>
&gt; I'm beggining to get into Gameboy emulation recently
&gt; takes me back to the days of Mario World) but I cant
&gt; seem to find a good emulator for my system
&gt; (A1200,030,
&gt; FPU,8MB, various speedup patches and hacks running).

Try AmiGameBoy version 0.92; look at
http://www.emuclassics.com/aer for the link and info,
and also my site at http://members.xoom.com/greenpizza
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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40615></A><CENTER>Message 40615</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:31:56 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Ian

&gt; Indeed. Plus as a 16 yr old student , i don't have the amount of cash
&gt; to warrant having to pay the 40/50 quid to buy PFS (it's either OS3.5
&gt; or this.)

If your having trouble, IMO go for PFS instead of OS3.5, so long as you get it later when you can afford it.

&gt;And then there's the hassle of having to reformat and
&gt; reinstall all the software on the hard drive - the exact thing i`m
&gt; trying to avoid in the first place :-)

But surely your backing up your files?  If you are, then it`s no problem to do a reformat, your programs can be reinstalled from
floppy/CD, just back up your data/prefs files.

If not, and your drive keeps on needing to be validated, you should be backing up now whilst you still can.

The simplest, quickest and cheapest way is to copy the backup stuff onto another partition, and instal PFS one partition at a time.
But of course you need room to do this.

Jon



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40616></A><CENTER>Message 40616</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:16:41 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Sandy

&gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard harddisk
&gt; &gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.
&gt;
&gt; I'd have thought that M$ would have come up with something better than
&gt; Scandisk by now though.

I`ve had to sit through lots of scandisks, much more often than a revalidation.  This PC hangs every 3 weeks or so just going
through the shut down routine, even though all programs are closed before hand.

And since I bought PS2, I`ve had no revalidations to do whatsoever, even with all the abuse I give my Amiga.  I was very suprised
the the mention of occassional stability problems in the PS3 review, it`s never failed on me once.

Jon



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40617></A><CENTER>Message 40617</CENTER><BR>
From :=?iso-8859-1?q?Ant's=20Spam?= &lt;spam_mail250@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino homepage
<BR>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:49:38 -0800 (PST)
<BR><PRE>
Apparently, according to http://www.emucamp.com:

Gateway Sells Amiga to Former Employee 
(posted by lilac - 10:26)
Just when we think gateway will shelve Amiga hardware
forever, they sell the rights to a former Amiga
employee, Bill McEwen.

Anyone know anything about him?
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<HR><A NAME=mess40618></A><CENTER>Message 40618</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Day" &lt;jonday@totalise.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:53:33 -0000
<BR><PRE>
To anyone remotely interested

&gt; Ok, I think I'll plug screaming.net then :) Not having tried BTInternet (and
&gt; not really wanting to :) I can't comment on that, but Screaming.net have
&gt; recently got a very good system from no-where, and now I haven't had an enaged
&gt; tong when trying to connect since they upgraded (a couple of months ago). I'm
&gt; also getting betweek 4 and 7k/sec download rates, and they've recently upped
&gt; their disconnection time to 3 hours, rather than two :)
&gt;
&gt; And it's free every weekday after 6pm (till 8am the next day) and all weekend.
&gt; The only real catch is that you have to change phone companies from BT To
&gt; LocalTel, but Localtel are 10% cheaper than BT anyway, use the same network
&gt; (Localtel are BT resellers) and offer the same services as BT!

Since we`re into the plug lark, I would like, once again to draw your attention to www.totalise.co.uk .  You pay the normal local
rate calls, but you get shares every month depending on your usage, plus bonus shares for this and that.

I have been using them for 4 months now and have received 710 shares, all readilly tradable and currently at 132.5p each  - OVER
900 in value!!!  Infact at this price it`s worth while staying on line even if your not using it.  (of course prices may go down as
well as up).  To put this in comparrison, my internet phone bill for the last 12 months was 150 (including 3 of the 4 with
totalise).

So, me with over 3500 of student loan still hanging over me (graduated in 96) is going to be using this to splash out on a G4.

If you`re interested please mail me and I`ll refer you so if you join I get another 25 shares    /money grabbing t**t

Jon
--




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40619></A><CENTER>Message 40619</CENTER><BR>
From :"Peter Lewis" &lt;ultrasbm@hotmail.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Action Replay Disk
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:51:51 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; I have a Action Replay but the disk that belongs with it not. Does
anyone
&gt; &gt; know where to get it or has it? The Action Replay uses it's own
diskformat
&gt; &gt; and you need that disk to convert it to amigados.
&gt; 
&gt; Stating the obvious I know, but have you tried Datel. I think they
&gt; still trade (though not in Amiga gear). Directory Enquires will get
&gt; you their number, they are based in Longton, Stoke on Trent, UK.
&gt; -- 
&gt; Anthony Prime
&gt; &gt;&gt;Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
&gt; anthony@prime.clara.co.uk
&gt;
Actually, Datel Electronics have now moved to a place called Stone.
it's a few miles South, in between Stoke and Stafford - I only know
this because I passed it the other day when i was going to the Stoke
computer fayre where I brought my Zip drive...



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40620></A><CENTER>Message 40620</CENTER><BR>
From :Chris Faircloth &lt;chrisfa@ihug.co.nz&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:56:24 +1300
<BR><PRE>
Hello mark

On 04-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt;mb i have heard from a few freinds that this soon to be service is a hoax
&gt;mb do any other members know anything about this? They must have thousands
&gt;mb of people interested,0800 access 7 days a week email etc.Too good to be
&gt;mb true??  


Just remember when something sounds "to good to be true" invariably it is or it
has dirty great hooks in it;-)





-- 
      Seasons Greetings

                     ============================================
                     Chris Faircloth.    Auckland ,   New Zealand
                     ============================================
                             *Amiga Phoenix For The Future*
                             ============================
                                    ICQ # 38728970
                                    ==============
                             PGP Key Available on Request
                             ============================


I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards.
I got a full house and four people died.




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40621></A><CENTER>Message 40621</CENTER><BR>
From :"Peter Lewis" &lt;ultrasbm@hotmail.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Backing Up Your HD before changing to PFS
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:20:39 -0800
<BR><PRE>
"jonathan day" &lt;jonda-@totalise.co.uk&gt; wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41319
&gt; Hi Ian
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Indeed. Plus as a 16 yr old student , i don't have the amount of
cash
&gt; &gt; to warrant having to pay the 40/50 quid to buy PFS (it's either
OS3.5
&gt; &gt; or this.)
&gt; 
&gt; If your having trouble, IMO go for PFS instead of OS3.5, so long as
you get it later when you can afford it.
&gt; 
&gt; &gt;And then there's the hassle of having to reformat and
&gt; &gt; reinstall all the software on the hard drive - the exact thing i`m
&gt; &gt; trying to avoid in the first place :-)
&gt; 
&gt; But surely your backing up your files?  If you are, then it`s no
problem to do a reformat, your programs can be reinstalled from
&gt; floppy/CD, just back up your data/prefs files.
&gt; 
&gt; If not, and your drive keeps on needing to be validated, you should
be backing up now whilst you still can.
&gt; 
&gt; The simplest, quickest and cheapest way is to copy the backup stuff
onto another partition, and instal PFS one partition at a time.
&gt; But of course you need room to do this.
&gt; 
&gt; Jon
&gt; 

Room that an IOmega Internal IDE Zip drive gives u!!!
Sorry.

Oh, totally OT, but ever since I've brought that Zip drive, I've been a
much happier fellow, knowing that my data is backed up about 38 times
over.
Walking around with a smile on my face has actually improved my social
life!

Since I have brought a Zip drive, I've acquired *TWO* girlfreinds.
Not meaning to brag, but there you go.
Not only does backing up your Hard Drive give you peace of mind - It
gets you a couple of birds @ the same time!
I think its called a chain reaction or something like that...

I am gonna write to Iomega and tell them this...
Yeah...It can be their new slogan "Feeling Lonely???? - Haven't got a
girlfriend???  - Well, what *YOU* need is a Zip Drive..." :o)

Err...I'll go now...

Hope u all had a good a Millenium Night as me! :o)
God am I tired...:P

The point to this e-mail was to bacck up your HD's everyone!
Just incase u didn't know!

Pete.



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40622></A><CENTER>Message 40622</CENTER><BR>
From :"Peter Lewis" &lt;ultrasbm@hotmail.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Amino?
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:30:47 -0800
<BR><PRE>
dopu-@ozemail.com.au wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=41317
&gt; Hi.
&gt; 
&gt; Anyone out there know what is happeining with Amino Development
&gt; Corporation? Aparently they have bought the Amiga name, but no
patents,
&gt; and Bill McEwan is the CEO.
&gt; 
&gt; Seems a bit pointless, as Gateway seem to still have the OS and custom
&gt; chips etc.
&gt; 
&gt; If anyone knows anything concrete, I would love to know.
&gt; 
Although not having the OS patents are a bit of a mystery - why would
they want the Custom Chip Patents? They are slow, out of date, and to
be honest, quite poo really.
They aren't going to be used in the new Amiga (If there will be one) so
why have them?
The only reason I could POSSIBLY think of having them for is if they
absolutely REQUIRE the precise way the Chips are engineered to create a
Perfect Software Emulator.

As for the OS, I dunno.

Oh yeah, whilst I'm here...Does anyone have an A4k Accelerator lying
about?
If u do, e-mail us and tell us the spex...I really NEED one ATM!

Laters!

Pete.

PS Zip drives RULE!



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40623></A><CENTER>Message 40623</CENTER><BR>
From :Chris Faircloth &lt;chrisfa@ihug.co.nz&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Backing Up Your HD before changing to PFS
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:41:51 +1300
<BR><PRE>
Hello Peter

On 04-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt;PL Room that an IOmega Internal IDE Zip drive gives u!!!
&gt;PL Sorry.

&gt;PL Oh, totally OT, but ever since I've brought that Zip drive, I've been=
 a
&gt;PL much happier fellow, knowing that my data is backed up about 38 times=

&gt;PL over.
&gt;PL Walking around with a smile on my face has actually improved my socia=
l
&gt;PL life!


&gt;PL Since I have brought a Zip drive, I've acquired *TWO* girlfreinds.
&gt;PL Not meaning to brag, but there you go.
&gt;PL Not only does backing up your Hard Drive give you peace of mind - It
&gt;PL gets you a couple of birds @ the same time!
&gt;PL I think its called a chain reaction or something like that...

&gt;PL I am gonna write to Iomega and tell them this...
&gt;PL Yeah...It can be their new slogan "Feeling Lonely???? - Haven't got a=

&gt;PL girlfriend???  - Well, what *YOU* need is a Zip Drive..." :o)

&gt;PL Err...I'll go now...

&gt;PL Hope u all had a good a Millenium Night as me! :o)
&gt;PL God am I tired...:P

&gt;PL The point to this e-mail was to bacck up your HD's everyone!
&gt;PL Just incase u didn't know!

If that is what a ZIP does for you, for Gods sake do not invest in an ORB=
 drive or
you'll lose it completely

Little ditty for you in your current frame of mind;-)

Look at you, look at me.
Waliking ten foot tall are we.
Smiling silly smiles all day.
How did we ever get that way.

-- =

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Adultery, n:
Putting yourself in someone else's position.




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40624></A><CENTER>Message 40624</CENTER><BR>
From :"Eddie Maddock" &lt;eddie@maddock.prestel.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Backing Up Your HD before changing to PFS
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 100 03:14:36 -0500
<BR><PRE>
Oi, Peter, noooo !!!

&gt; Since I have brought a Zip drive, I've acquired *TWO* girlfreinds.
&gt; Not meaning to brag, but there you go.
&gt; Not only does backing up your Hard Drive give you peace of mind - It
&gt; gets you a couple of birds @ the same time!

Hang about. I've got a zip drive. Where's *my* bird ? One of those two
was meant for me. Give her back !

&gt; I think its called a chain reaction or something like that...

No, it's called stealing.

Cheers,

Eddie  :)


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40625></A><CENTER>Message 40625</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan M. Dudley" &lt;jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Microdot-II and Outlook Express
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:12:14 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Ian Shurmer wrote:

&gt; Can anyone privately send me an Outlook mail that is in plain text
&gt; with a (small) attachment so that I can test the theory?

Mail and mugshot on its way!  :)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Someday we'll look back on all this and plough into a parked car.


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40626></A><CENTER>Message 40626</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:09:44 +0000
<BR><PRE>
At 12:57 03/01/00 , you wrote:

&gt;Ok, I think I'll plug screaming.net then :) Not having tried BTInternet (and
&gt;not really wanting to :) I can't comment on that, but Screaming.net have
&gt;recently got a very good system from no-where,

My son has screaming net and it works fine, I don`t want to change my phone 
provider just yet so am waiting to see.

Will




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40627></A><CENTER>Message 40627</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Backing Up Your HD before changing to PFS
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 09:21:13 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On 4 Jan 100 03:14:36 -0500, Eddie Maddock (eddie@maddock.prestel.co.uk) wrote:
&gt; Oi, Peter, noooo !!!
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Since I have brought a Zip drive, I've acquired *TWO* girlfreinds.
&gt; &gt; Not meaning to brag, but there you go.
&gt; &gt; Not only does backing up your Hard Drive give you peace of mind - It
&gt; &gt; gets you a couple of birds @ the same time!
&gt; 
&gt; Hang about. I've got a zip drive. Where's *my* bird ? One of those two
&gt; was meant for me. Give her back !

Wait a minute, I've got two zip drives, one in my A4000 and one in my
A1200!  They're *both* mine!   :-)

&gt; &gt; I think its called a chain reaction or something like that...
&gt; 
&gt; No, it's called stealing.

What I want to know is, do both girls know about each other, or is Peter
being a very naughty boy?

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40628></A><CENTER>Message 40628</CENTER><BR>
From :"Paul Laycock" &lt;amipal@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Reality Game Engine
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:19:53 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Does anyone know if there are any webpages where I can get info or
skeleton
&gt; disks from the Reality Game Engine (you know, the full-page ad in AF
that
&gt; looked oh-so-tempting, until I bought it, and realised it was shite)?

So, I wasn't the only one...

Paul



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40629></A><CENTER>Message 40629</CENTER><BR>
From :"Paul Laycock" &lt;amipal@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: 2 Questions- 1 old, 1 new
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:25:22 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; 1- I might have asked this recently b4- will the AmiJoe have a
graphics card
&gt; available for it when it's released, or is that just thin air at
present?

Nothing has been stated... yet. Should have a MiniPCI connector on it
(whatever that is).

&gt; 2- How much should I sell an Apollo 1240/40 + 32Mb (One of the Eyetech
&gt; overclocked 33MHz ones) for. I was hoping over a hundred pounds...

I think =A3100 would be perfect.

&gt; These are just to reassure myself b4 I make the leap to PPC+
BlizzardVision.
&gt; On that note- who still sells these GFX cards, I've heard they're not
too
&gt; common now.

None have been made for a loooooooong time (I've been waiting for one
from WhiteKnight since July). However, phase5 have sold the licenses
for numerous PPC products to DCE, so we should have BVisions very soon.

Paul



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40630></A><CENTER>Message 40630</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino?
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:31:38 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,


&gt; Although not having the OS patents are a bit of a mystery - why would
&gt; they want the Custom Chip Patents? They are slow, out of date, and to
&gt; be honest, quite poo really.

The AmigaOS is not patented, it's copyrighted!  I agree that the custom
chips
are slow (1982 origins!), but they are still versatile and are actually
ok'ish when you take into account their age... (Paula is 16-17 years
old as a concept...,  AGA as a concept is about ten years old...)

Just to clarify one major mis-understanding about the Amiga purchace:

 * Amino have everything about Amiga, copyrights, patents, names,
trademarks            etcetera; so long as it pre-dates 1997!!!!  *  
Gateway has kept all the post 1997 patents, see an older issue for AF
to see what they are.  In effect, Amino has complete control over the
so-called 'Classic Amiga', lock, stock and (two smoking :)) barrels.

I for one am excited at the prospects of Amino developing Amiga,
despite what some people think, i'm an eternal optimist, i think you
have to be in the Amiga industry.... ;-)

Nick



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40631></A><CENTER>Message 40631</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: 2 Questions- 1 old, 1 new
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:34:30 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt; &gt; 1- I might have asked this recently b4- will the AmiJoe have a
&gt; graphics card
&gt; &gt; available for it when it's released, or is that just thin air at
&gt; present?
&gt; 
&gt; Nothing has been stated... yet. Should have a MiniPCI connector on it
&gt; (whatever that is).

Basically a smaller version of Intel's 32BIT expansion slot which runs
at 33MHZ iirc.
 
&gt; &gt; 2- How much should I sell an Apollo 1240/40 + 32Mb (One of the
Eyetech
&gt; &gt; overclocked 33MHz ones) for. I was hoping over a hundred pounds...
&gt; 
&gt; I think =A3100 would be perfect.

How much would you pay for a real 68040 40MHz (the actual 40MHz
component!) + 32Mb RAM, Apollo 1240/40 as Pauls is.  =A3110?  If you
would, I may save up for a PPC sometime... :)

Nick



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40632></A><CENTER>Message 40632</CENTER><BR>
From :  Pekka Sippola &lt;pekka.sippola@pp.inet.fi&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: scsi
<BR>Date:   Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:54:26 +0200
<BR><PRE>
Hello Ken

 
&gt;    I put my old Blizzard 1230-III with the scsi interface into a
&gt; second hand A1200 which I bought last week (with 3.1 ROMS) then
&gt; updated it to OS3.5. The trouble is my scsi HDs which are connected to
&gt; it are slow to recognise the scsi inteterface. There was a fix for a
&gt; similar problem found on my other A1200 with this scsi. I have put the
&gt; scsi fix '1230ScsiFix' into the C: and put the bit in
&gt; S:startup-sequence
&gt; 
&gt; C:SetPatch QUIET
&gt; 
&gt;&gt; NIL: RESIDENT    
&gt; 
&gt; Note after setpatch. This used to work on my other machine and was
&gt; working fine on my old machine with this before upgrading to a
&gt; Blizzard 1260/50 with scsi.
&gt; 
&gt; My scsi chain is all working on my A1200 with the 1260scsi but the
&gt; same chain hooked onto the 1230 scsi does not work the same takes ages
&gt; to boot-up. All the devices are set as 1230scsi.device (which is the
&gt; same for the 1260)

There is a line in 3.5:s NSDPatch.cfg for 1230scsi.device; make it
available (taking the # off ) and have a test.
 
Regards
-- 
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40633></A><CENTER>Message 40633</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] re: freedomi internet access
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:44:09 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

I went on http://www.freedomi.net and the catch appears to be when you
use the WWW, you get an advert the the top of the page, i think i'd be
able to bear with that for free access... :)

Besides, i use email and irc more :)  (nice sesh last night Neil!)

Nick



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40634></A><CENTER>Message 40634</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 02:55:45 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

well I have just entered my details and I am told that i'll get an
email to notify me when the service begins, if it does that is.

I shall notify AFB as and when (if) anything happens....

I don't know what to say, if i don't here anything then I'll guess I'll
switch to LocalTel and Screaming.net, I'll have to use a PC to sign up
though, just to be on the safe side, eh?! :)

The only thing is that no email address on http://www.freedomi.net is
supplied to make contact.... makes you wonder! ;)

Nick



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40635></A><CENTER>Message 40635</CENTER><BR>
From :"Anthony Prime" &lt;anthony@prime.clara.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Totally Off Topic
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 10:16:08 +0000
<BR><PRE>
in a fit of rage Peter Wesson said something about [afb] Totally Off Topic

&gt; I just became a dad at 22:28 31/12

Fanstatic! I take it we'll be hearing less of you over the coming
months ;)

Congratulations :)
-- 
Anthony Prime
&gt;&gt;Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40636></A><CENTER>Message 40636</CENTER><BR>
From :"Anthony Prime" &lt;anthony@prime.clara.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga news ;)
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 21:24:41 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Jonathan Day said something about [afb] Re: Amiga news ;)

&gt; "Amino...has purchased from Gateway (NYSE: GTW) the Amiga trademarks and
&gt; Amiga computer systems...Gateway will retain ownership of all patents
&gt; acquired when it bought Amiga in 1997."

&gt; Not sure if this bit is good tho.  What is "Amiga computer systems"?  Surely
&gt; that should include the intellectual rights to produce the Amigas, but if
&gt; Gateway hold the patents how does that work, could they hold Amino to
&gt; ransom?

IIRC the patents related to the user interface and the MCC hardware,
so PPC AmigaOS and PPC shouldn't rely on their patents.
 
&gt; BTW whatever happened to those ideas of Gateway only buying Amiga for it`s
&gt; patents, especially those on CD usage so it could sue all the other
&gt; manufacturers?

Dunno
-- 
Anthony Prime
&gt;&gt;Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40637></A><CENTER>Message 40637</CENTER><BR>
From :"Anthony Prime" &lt;anthony@prime.clara.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Stone [was:  Action Replay Disk]
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 11:16:11 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Peter Lewis said something about [afb] Re: Action Replay Disk

&gt; &gt; Stating the obvious I know, but have you tried Datel. I think they
&gt; &gt; still trade (though not in Amiga gear). Directory Enquires will get
&gt; &gt; you their number, they are based in Longton, Stoke on Trent, UK.

&gt; Actually, Datel Electronics have now moved to a place called Stone.
&gt; it's a few miles South, in between Stoke and Stafford - I only know
&gt; this because I passed it the other day when i was going to the Stoke
&gt; computer fayre where I brought my Zip drive...

Why Stone I wonder? Hmm possibly grants.

Anyway which fayre was that then, Trentham? Moat House Hanley? I get
to those myself on occasion.
-- 
Anthony Prime
&gt;&gt;Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40638></A><CENTER>Message 40638</CENTER><BR>
From :Stephen &lt;amiganut@iweb.net.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Old A500's
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:14:06 +1000
<BR><PRE>
(Disengaging lurk mode)

Is there anybody out there (preferabley Australian) that would be interested
in a couple of old A500's plus a couple of 1084S monitors and an A590? The
disc drive on one of the 500's doesn't want to work and I know nothing
about electronics to pull it apart and tinker with it. (This from someone who 
breaks out into a cold sweat just changing the clock battery on my
accelerator) There's even a book on AmigaBasic included.

All this for no charge. :) They're no good to me, as I said I wouldn't know
how to tinker with them. They were given to me by a well meaning friend
who know's I like the Amiga.

I said Australian, mainly because there ain't no way, no how _I'm_ paying to
to ship them overseas. :)

If anybody's interested it'd be easier to mail me off list, I get the AFb as
the digest and trying to read through a weeks worth gives me a headache.

Well, I've had my say.

Stephen

(Re-engaging lurk mode)
-- 
http://www.iweb.net.au/~amiganut/



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40639></A><CENTER>Message 40639</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: LZX Y2K bug
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:31:48 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hi Bablos
Somewhere around 02-Jan-00, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: LZX
Y2K bug

&gt; You sure?  I've just tested a newly created file, and although the
&gt; dates are completely fecked if I do a listing of the archive, they're
&gt; OK once it's unpacked.

Yup, in the archive they're shafted (future) but when unpacked again then
they get the right dates back again

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Downpour!: Wayne Dwops







</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40640></A><CENTER>Message 40640</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:36:07 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 03-Jan-00, Alex Furmanski wrote:


&gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard harddisk
&gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.

Yeah, but thats the sort od comparison M.Sealey would have come up with....
now if you compared it to scandisk which is basically the same thing, it
would be the other way round. plus validating a drive(haven't done that
since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes minutes, win takes hours, maybe
day to put it all back

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Brought to you by the letter oe -RUSH Counterparts







</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40641></A><CENTER>Message 40641</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:39:08 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 03-Jan-00, Will wrote:

&gt; Glad I am not the only one who has had this. If it wasn't for Disksalve I 
&gt; would have lost my data umpteen times over the last few years. BTW I also 
&gt; have Upper Disk Tools which is a waste of time.

Same here, especially on my net partition, however since installing pfs a
few months ago I have never had to revalidate or anything.... get it now,
everyone. YAM is a damn site quicker to

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Necrophiliacs DO IT until they are dead tired.







</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40642></A><CENTER>Message 40642</CENTER><BR>
From :Matthew O'Neill &lt;mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Upcoming AF C4D tutorials
<BR>Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:43:54 +0100
<BR><PRE>
On 03-Jan-00, Andy Kinsella wrote:


&gt; The updated gui and a ppc renderer will not a v6 make 8) 

&gt; There a whole bunch of new features to be bolted in there too. . .

And also a biggy, there is no manual atm, who is gonna buy a complicated
peice of software with no manual? no-one, that has to be done atleast

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Message brought to you by sufficient coffee indigestion.







</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40643></A><CENTER>Message 40643</CENTER><BR>
From :"Paul Laycock" &lt;amipal@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino?
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:43:36 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; I for one am excited at the prospects of Amino developing Amiga,
&gt; despite what some people think, i'm an eternal optimist, i think you
&gt; have to be in the Amiga industry.... ;-)

I am also, though I wonder how many ppl we'll lose. Everytime Amiga is
sold, the community shrinks and/or is fragmented into for vs. against.
It is nice that the Classic range will be continued through Amino, but
I still feel that the MCC was the way ahead.

Since Fleacy is the Digital Convergance bloke, maybe we'll see the
Classic evolving along these lines. Hmm...

Paul



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40644></A><CENTER>Message 40644</CENTER><BR>
From :"Kevin Fairhurst" &lt;redvers@redvers.u-net.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: LZX Y2K bug
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 12:43:34 +0000
<BR><PRE>
On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 17:31:48 +0100, Matthew O'Neill (mash@myamiga=2Efreeser=
ve=2Eco=2Euk) wrote:

&gt; Yup, in the archive they're shafted (future) but when unpacked again then
&gt; they get the right dates back again

Which version of lzx are you using?  With v1=2E21 here, if you list the
archive contents, they're shafted=2E  You unarzhive them again, and the dat=
e
is still shafted!!  They have the right time, but NOT the right date =2E=2E=
=2E

(0) Ready&gt; list list dates
list                              6440 ----rwed 04-Jan-00 12:38:52
1 file - 8 blocks used
(0) Ready&gt; lzx l list=2Elzx

LZX 1=2E21 (Registered) Archive/Extract utility - 68040/68060 Version=2E
Copyright =A9 1995 Data Compression Technologies=2E  All rights reserved=2E
Registered to the Amiga community for non-commercial use=2E

Viewing archive 'list=2Elzx':

Original  Packed  Ratio   Date      Time   Name
-------- -------- ----- --------- -------- -----------
    6440     3916 60=2E8% 04-Jan-128 12:38:52 list
-------- -------- ----- --------- --------
    6440     3916 60=2E8% 04-Jan-256 12:40:22 1 file(s)

Operation successful

(0) Ready&gt; lzx x list=2Elzx=20

LZX 1=2E21 (Registered) Archive/Extract utility - 68040/68060 Version=2E
Copyright =A9 1995 Data Compression Technologies=2E  All rights reserved=2E
Registered to the Amiga community for non-commercial use=2E

Extracting files from archive 'list=2Elzx':
'list' already exists; overwrite? (Yes,No,All,Quit): y
  (    6440) Extracted OK: list

  ** 1 file(s) extracted, all files OK

Operation successful

(0) Ready&gt; list list dates
list                              6440 ----rwed 04-Jan-28 12:38:52
1 file - 8 blocks used
(0) Ready&gt;


You see?

Kev

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40645></A><CENTER>Message 40645</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino?
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:49:57 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi

&gt; Since Fleacy is the Digital Convergance bloke, maybe we'll see the
&gt; Classic evolving along these lines. Hmm...

It's Fleecy! ;-)  But seriously, i agree, if you want to see what Amino
is probably going to do, see AF's digital convergence article written
by Fleecy, November 1998 issue iirc; i think that'll give you a good
idea what's ahead... (and it's not qnx, i can say that much...)

Nick 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40646></A><CENTER>Message 40646</CENTER><BR>
From :"Paul Laycock" &lt;amipal@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Upcoming AF C4D tutorials
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:50:56 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; It`s great news that AF will shortly be running a 3D tutorial, it`s
been a long time coming, but is anyone else concerned that it
&gt; will be for C4D?
&gt; 
&gt; I know many of us own either v2 from AF or v4 from CU, but IMO AF
should run the series on a 3D program that is still being worked
&gt; on, Imagine for example

I for one would like a tutorial on C4D, though I must admit I do know
most of the features. I'd like to know how to produce specific efects,
however, such as 3D nebulae (NOT using the sky) and other types of SFX.

Paul



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40647></A><CENTER>Message 40647</CENTER><BR>
From :"Paul Laycock" &lt;amipal@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino?
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:52:24 -0800
<BR><PRE>
&gt; It's Fleecy! ;-) 

Oops! Sorry Fleecy!

&gt; But seriously, i agree, if you want to see what Amino
&gt; is probably going to do, see AF's digital convergence article written
&gt; by Fleecy, November 1998 issue iirc; i think that'll give you a good
&gt; idea what's ahead... (and it's not qnx, i can say that much...)

I know - as it happens I read it last night!

Paul



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40648></A><CENTER>Message 40648</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:55:51 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard
harddisk
&gt; &gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.

I agree, my Amiga (on average) has had a good day if any hard disk
partition has only been invalidated once! ;)  Yesterday HD1:, PS2K: and
DATA: were invalidated, all is ok now though.  Mind you I am running
AmigaOS 39 (3.0) which not that stable on my over bloated A1240T!

&gt; Yeah, but thats the sort od comparison M.Sealey would have come up
with....
&gt; now if you compared it to scandisk which is basically the same thing,
it
&gt; would be the other way round. plus validating a drive(haven't done
that
&gt; since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes minutes, win takes hours,
maybe
&gt; day to put it all back

PFS is good, if you have it, i may consider getting the latest PFS 3
soon, I dunno, I've got a phone bill to pay soon! :((  It's FFS that's
the problem, a 1987 fs! :((  

ScanDisk sucks, let me just say in the past I have 'repaired' PCs where
the problem was bad hard disk blocks, ScanDisk always crashed at a
certain point, I sorted it in the end though...    ... with a bodge...
:)

Nick 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40649></A><CENTER>Message 40649</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Amino?
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:58:12 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt; &gt; It's Fleecy! ;-) 
&gt; 
&gt; Oops! Sorry Fleecy!

I don't mind!  just thought i'd point it out! :)
 
&gt; &gt; But seriously, i agree, if you want to see what Amino
&gt; &gt; is probably going to do, see AF's digital convergence article
written
&gt; &gt; by Fleecy, November 1998 issue iirc; i think that'll give you a good
&gt; &gt; idea what's ahead... (and it's not qnx, i can say that much...)
&gt; 
&gt; I know - as it happens I read it last night!

You mean AF Nov' 1998, good isn't it! :)  Also check out:

http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/fleecy.html

It's a little more up to date and gives you an idea as to what Amino
are supposedly up to, at the time that is, Sep-Oct '99 iirc.
 
Nick 



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40650></A><CENTER>Message 40650</CENTER><BR>
From :"Andrew Gillen" &lt;andyroo@globalnet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:08:29 -0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Matthew,

&gt; &gt; :-) I bet most Amiga owners have had to wait for their standard harddisk
&gt; &gt; to validate more times than PC owners have had to reinstall Windows.
&gt; 
&gt; Yeah, but thats the sort od comparison M.Sealey would have come up with....
&gt; now if you compared it to scandisk which is basically the same thing, it
&gt; would be the other way round. plus validating a drive(haven't done that
&gt; since I got pfs a few months ago!) takes minutes, win takes hours, maybe
&gt; day to put it all back

Well, not strictly true since you can disable scandisk from kicking in auto-
matically on boot up. I can tell you it IS a pain in the arse, or rather was
since it has been disabled here. I am not aware of a method of disabling the
Amiga from validating the drive on bootup, but if there is (short of upgrad-
ing to PFS), or a way of speeding it up I'd be interested to know. 

Oh before I go, has anyone any solutions for 'fixing' a Zorro daughterboard?
Mine doesn't always work on boot-up, and I suspect it's due to the connectors
not lining up correctly, ie the tracks in the slot it connects into do not
always meet. At the momenet I am forced to take the case off and jiggle the 
board about a bit (left right up down etc) and randomly power up to see if it
is working. Any suggestions would be welcome :)

Tata,
--
Andrew Gillen
andy@pudding.net




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40651></A><CENTER>Message 40651</CENTER><BR>
From :"Nick Lamburn" &lt;oruk-amigan@excite.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 05:11:39 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Hi,

&gt; Well, not strictly true since you can disable scandisk from kicking
in auto-
&gt; matically on boot up. I can tell you it IS a pain in the arse, or
rather was
&gt; since it has been disabled here. I am not aware of a method of
disabling the
&gt; Amiga from validating the drive on bootup, but if there is (short of
upgrad-
&gt; ing to PFS), or a way of speeding it up I'd be interested to know. 

Indeed, ScanDisk can be disabled...

You can speed up re-validation I found by increasing a drive's buffers.
 In a cli or Workbench..Execute Command (RAmiga E) type in:

addbuffers &gt;nil: {partition} 1024

where {partition} is the drive re-validating e.g: HD1:, NET: etc.  1024
is the amount of buffers BTW

Nick



</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40652></A><CENTER>Message 40652</CENTER><BR>
From :"Eddie Maddock" &lt;eddie@maddock.prestel.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Backing Up Your HD before changing to PFS
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 100 13:51:52 -0500
<BR><PRE>
Hi Kev,

&gt; What I want to know is, do both girls know about each other, or is Peter
&gt; being a very naughty boy?

Everyone on afb...  "He's *not* the messiah, he's a very naughty 
boy !!!"

Cheers,

Eddie


</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40653></A><CENTER>Message 40653</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Zip drive will not zip!
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 23:5:54 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Satan &lt;satans_smeg@hotmail.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  28-Dec-99 01:07:09
 Re:  [afb] Zip drive will not zip!

Hi Satan,

&gt;   I've being trying (rather un-sucessfuly) to install a Zip100. It's
&gt; an internal Atapi but it will not play ball.
&gt;   When I turn the machine on it spins up and clicks away if there's a
&gt; disk in it but when I come to running HDToolBox the only enrty in the
&gt; drive list is my HD! So I can't format anything to use on it. I'm sure
&gt; the jumper config. is right, IDEFIX is set to mount it as HD, I'm not
&gt; sure if that should be floppy mount but who the hell cares!

So what jumper settings are you using then?  I've got mine in an IBuM,
and with no jumpers set at all (slave mode), but that would depend on
what else shares the port.

On mine, the jumpers nearest the IDE connector are for cable select
(not likely to need setting), the middle ones for drive A (IBuM use
only), and the last two nearest the power connector are for master.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40654></A><CENTER>Message 40654</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Video on Amiga
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 22:57:27 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  01-Jan-00 00:14:33
 Re:  [afb] Re: Video on Amiga

Hi Will,

&gt; Thanks for the info - I will order a genlock next week and have a go.
&gt; I built a fade-to-black video box recently, as the sync signals are 
&gt; unaffected I assume that it would be ok to put in line with the video
&gt; feed to the genlock?

Video source -&gt; fader -&gt; GenLocker -&gt; recorder ought to work fine,
likewise would source -&gt; GenLocker -&gt; fader - recorder, just as long the
fader doesn't foul up the sync and colour burst signals.

Some GenLockers already have extensive fader options built in.  Mine
only has a inserted Amiga video fader (fade to background video), but
I've seen ones where you can fade the incoming video, and the inserted
Amiga video via seperate controls.

&gt; I want to build a unit which will separate the line sync and back
&gt; porch signals, clamp them and then reconstitute them. Do you know of
&gt; an Internet resource of circuits?

Sorry, no idea here.  In the past I've seen video fader circuits in
electronics magazines (I've got one or two stashed somewhere, but I have
several hundered magazines, and they're not catalogued very usefully),
but none of the circuits I saw did a good job of maintaining signal
quality.

The circuits I've seen usually suffered from appalling methods of black
level clamping that crushed syncs, caused over-all general signal
distortion, and didn't really clamp to a fixed level either.

For what it's worth, also cleaning up the vertical sync and blanking
periods is useful for playing tapes with bad tracking problems (or
chewed tape edges), as some TVs have trouble with vertical lock in these
situations, and a good vertical sync restoration circuit can use
alternative methods than most TVs use to determine where the sync should
really be (line counting usually).

My (professional) video mixer has a full manual and circuit diagram, if
I get a chance I'll see if I can nut out the circuit portion that
handles clamping (it uses discrete components and conventional ICs), but
you'd also need to work out how you re-insert the sync (you really need
to do it from a SPG (Sync Pulse Generator), but the SPG would need to be
GenLocked to the source video).

&gt; It must be New Year where you are by now - so best wishes!

You too.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40655></A><CENTER>Message 40655</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Interview with Fleecy Moss - Amino mentioned!
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 22:40:46 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Erol Ismael &lt;eismael@netscape.net&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  02-Jan-00 02:22:14
 Re:  [afb] Interview with Fleecy Moss - Amino mentioned!

Hi Erol,

&gt; Old Article I found on the net.


&gt; http://x28.deja.com/=yahoo/getdoc.xp?AN=562514694.3&CONTEXT=946746741.
&gt; 1
&gt; 114177539&hitnum=9

Anybody care to comment on how to make a link like this work when
clicked on in Thor?  Quite apart from how the URI has become split
across lines, that's only one part of the problem, GetNet doesn't
appear to like certain parameters in URIs.

I mean with GetNet, sending to browser doesn't throw up the error
message that GetNet does:

"ReadArgs failed: wrong number of arguments
 Template: URL/K,REQ/S"

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40656></A><CENTER>Message 40656</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)
<BR>Date: 4 Jan 2000 0:1:44 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@eGroups.com&gt;
 On:  03-Jan-00 01:30:54
 Re:  [afb] Re: Nasty Wintel System (Ha ha ha!!!)

Hi Will,

&gt; Sigh, are people ever going to get away from this yah-boo
&gt; mentality???? I  have had to re-install workbench umpteen times over
&gt; the years, my most  valuable bit of Amiga software is disksalve.

I've never had to re-install Workbench.  It's sat on the drive working
very nicely for about 8 years, and only finally got shovelled about for
a 3.1 upgrade last year.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40657></A><CENTER>Message 40657</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Microdot-II and Outlook Express
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 23:59:34 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Jonathan M. Dudley &lt;jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  03-Jan-00 06:04:38
 Re:  [afb] Re: Microdot-II and Outlook Express

Hi Jonathan,

&gt; Ian Shurmer wrote:

&gt;&gt; The mailer that I use is Microdot II, and my friends quite often send
&gt;&gt; me attachments from their PCs. Although when I receive the mail I can
&gt;&gt; view all the attachments, I can't read the text unless I save it out
&gt;&gt; and use a text viewer. Is this a fault with my MD setup, Outlook
&gt;&gt; Express/the mail's that are sent by my friends, or just Microdot
&gt;&gt; itself, and can anyone help me solve this problem?

&gt; Outlook tends to send mails in HTML format by default, until you
&gt; "cure" it of this silly habit (it's in the prefs). If this is the
&gt; problem, tell your friends to send their mails to you in plain text.

OE sucks in many ways.  Despite me continually setting it to quote text
with a &gt; in front of it, every time I reboot, it stops, and just quotes
text without any quote prefix at all.  It's far worse than using a plain
text editor (with Thor), to do e-mail.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40658></A><CENTER>Message 40658</CENTER><BR>
From :"Tim Seifert" &lt;tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: blackborder
<BR>Date: 3 Jan 2000 23:47:59 +0900
<BR><PRE>
 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
 To:  afb &lt;afb@egroups.com&gt;
 On:  03-Jan-00 00:59:25
 Re:  [afb] Re: blackborder

Hi Will,

&gt; Many years ago when I was a TV engineer we were taught not to over
&gt; scan the  horizontal width as this caused the neck of the tube to heat
&gt; up and over a  period crack. Now, I have personally never known this
&gt; to happen but would  be interested in other peoples opinions,

All TV sets overscan, every single one of them scans over the edge of
the tube, usually by at least 5% in modern sets, upto 15% in ancient
ones.

They do this so the user doesn't see black borders, as blanking widths
are somewhat variable from set tolerance drifts, and television
broadcasters various different program sources.

Only professional video monitors, and computer monitors underscan, or do
edge to edge scan.

You'd have to overscan by a really extreme amount, or have the worlds
worst designed tube, to cause any such problem with a normal amount of
overscanning.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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<HR><A NAME=mess40659></A><CENTER>Message 40659</CENTER><BR>
From :"Ben Vost" &lt;ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: A couple of points
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:39:08 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Ragnar,

&gt; 2) Is it just my imagination or aren't there any CD deadlines in the
&gt; calendar
&gt; any more?

There aren't because I haven't gotten round to doing them yet. I shall do so
soon...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40660></A><CENTER>Message 40660</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mikey C" &lt;michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] New Executive Update
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:02:35 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Yep, Bill McEwen has posted a new executive update on 
http://www.amiga.com (or .de if you prefer)

I wonder who their partner is?

Regards

Mikey C





</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40661></A><CENTER>Message 40661</CENTER><BR>
From :Sandy Brownlee &lt;sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:48:00 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hello Will

On 03-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt; I am with btinternet (not btclick,) and it is the best I have tried - free
&gt; access every weekend and they have allowed free access for the last 10
&gt; days over the holiday period. Also a terrific help line and fast access
&gt; speeds.

How much is their subscription charge, then?
And do you get webspace, etc?

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40662></A><CENTER>Message 40662</CENTER><BR>
From :Sandy Brownlee &lt;sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: freedomi internet service
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:54:22 +0100
<BR><PRE>
Hello Jonathan

On 04-Jan-00, you wrote:

&gt; I have been using them for 4 months now and have received 710 shares, a=
ll
&gt; readilly tradable and currently at 132.5p each - OVER =A3900 in value!!=
!
&gt; Infact at this price it`s worth while staying on line even if your not
&gt; using it. (of course prices may go down as well as up). To put this in
&gt; comparrison, my internet phone bill for the last 12 months was =A3150
&gt; (including 3 of the 4 with totalise).
&gt; =

&gt; So, me with over =A33500 of student loan still hanging over me (graduat=
ed in
&gt; 96) is going to be using this to splash out on a G4.
&gt; =

&gt; If you`re interested please mail me and I`ll refer you so if you join I=

&gt; get another 25 shares /money grabbing t**t

They pay *you*?

Regards

        Sandy Brownlee

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</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40663></A><CENTER>Message 40663</CENTER><BR>
From :"eGroups.com Poll Results" &lt;spudgun@free4all.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Voting Results: Which OS for the Amiga? (4/12/99)
<BR>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 07:52:28 -0800
<BR><PRE>
Here are the results of the vote:

1. Linux			1
2. QNX Neutrino			7
3. AmigaOS port (OS4.0?)			69




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40664></A><CENTER>Message 40664</CENTER><BR>
From :"Jonathan Duncombe" &lt;jondun@freeuk.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Power Flyer & OS3.5
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:23:30 -0000
<BR><PRE>

[snip]

&gt; &gt;Power have been quite helpful but don't seem able to help here, so I
thought
&gt; &gt;I'd ask the experts on this list.
&gt;
&gt; &gt;Any help/advice much appreciated.
&gt;
&gt; The problem is the NDSPatch it doesn't like the PowerFlyer.
&gt; Go to you DEVSdir and find the file called NSDPatch.cfg and either
&gt; delete it or rename it.
&gt;
&gt; That worked for me

you could just add NONSD to the args of Setpatch, i use
Setpatch QUIET NONSD SKIPROMUPDATES scsi.device
just to be sure :)

Regards
       Jon




</PRE>
<HR><A NAME=mess40665></A><CENTER>Message 40665</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Active (was Schatztruhe) now Robotics
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:41:42 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Thanks Ian,

Great info - I will try to find tha Amiga hacks and sign up.

Will

:
&gt;On 21 Dec 99, at 10:54, eGroups Digest wrote:
&gt;
&gt;To Will and the others who were talking about Interfacing robots to
&gt;the Amiga and Relay drivers, look at the following two file on
&gt;Aminet,
&gt;
&gt;ParPortTst.lha  hard/misc       Parallel port Hardware & Software tester.
&gt;
&gt;This allow you to toggle the state of the 8 Data Lines of the Amiga
&gt;Parallel port. It also allows the state of the ACK, BUSY and select
&gt;lines. It is basic but great for what it does.
&gt;
&gt;Also look at  turd_ii.lha       hard/misc  The Ultimate Relay Driver.
&gt;
&gt;This is a program written to control some of the many Relay cards
&gt;available on the market.
&gt;
&gt;It should be possible to use a PC Relay card driver like those in
&gt;Maplin as the standard PC printer port only has Uni-directional data
&gt;lines. The other thing to check is that the Data lines are opto-
&gt;isolated, but this is easily done, even for bi-directional ports.
&gt;
&gt;If you want more info on Parallel ports and interfacing, admittedly
&gt;for the PC but useful background try,
&gt;
&gt;http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/8302/parallel.htm
&gt;
&gt;Regarding Will's query about Long IDE cables and the like, the
&gt;reason that it can go wrong is due to TTL Logic drive capabilities. A
&gt;standard TTL logic chip can source a current of 400 micro amps for
&gt;a logic 1 and sink a current of 16 mili amps for a logic 0. This is
&gt;fine for PCB traces, with their 75 ohm impedances, but to drive a
&gt;signal down a cable you need more power. The standard TTL
&gt;device can sink enough current but not source it, so you use a
&gt;drive chip, like a 74245 (8 bit bus transceiver) which can provide +-
&gt;24 mA for logic 0 and logic 1. Variants of this device are used on
&gt;buffered interfaces. They cost 25 pence each from Farnell, how
&gt;much are these buffered interfaces?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;You might want to join the Amiga Hacks mailing list at Onelist, as
&gt;DIY interfacing topics are one of the main points of discussion.
&gt;
&gt;Bye,
&gt;
&gt;Ian Stedman



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<HR><A NAME=mess40666></A><CENTER>Message 40666</CENTER><BR>
From :Will &lt;wills-place@engineer.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Video on Amiga
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:45:43 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hi Chris,

Right, that is my next shopping item after Christmas - who would you 
recommend I go to for the hardware?

Cheers,

Will

Southport England.


&gt;I've managed it OK with MM300 with an 020 for the last 6 or 7 years without
&gt;problem, so an 030 should be more than enough.
&gt;
&gt;Chris
&gt;
&gt;Chris Green
&gt;Technical Editor - Computing
&gt;VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG



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<HR><A NAME=mess40667></A><CENTER>Message 40667</CENTER><BR>
From :"Phil Ellis" &lt;philllip.ellis@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Seasons Greetings
<BR>Date: 22 Dec 99 23:17:53 +0000
<BR><PRE>
To all afb readers,

As it's getting quiet on here because all the students &lt;/spit&gt; are on holiday
may I take this opportunity to wish everyone a Merry Christmas (Nadolig Llawen)
from North Wales. (Ben can do it for all the other countries of the World ;-)

___________________________________________________
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For information on Cystic Fibrosis
http://www.philellis.co.uk/cf.html
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<HR><A NAME=mess40668></A><CENTER>Message 40668</CENTER><BR>
From :=?iso-8859-1?q?Mirrorball?= &lt;djoutlaws@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Seasons Greetings
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:59:42 -0800 (PST)
<BR><PRE>

Hey!

&gt; As it's getting quiet on here because all the
&gt; students &lt;/spit&gt; are on holiday

Holiday?  What's that then?!

&gt; may I take this opportunity to wish everyone a Merry
&gt; Christmas (Nadolig Llawen)
&gt; from North Wales. (Ben can do it for all the other
&gt; countries of the World ;-)

I second that, in fact if I wasn't so lazy I'd email
you all an e-card :)  

So who's gonna be the sad gimps on here on Christmas
day? hehe

Respect

DAN WOOD
http://the-point.8m.com
TRIBUTE to The-Point, the greatest Amiga Diskmag EVER!

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<HR><A NAME=mess40669></A><CENTER>Message 40669</CENTER><BR>
From :Peter Gordon &lt;mrtickle@amiga4k.ndo.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: A4000 PowerFlyer?
<BR>Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:48:23 +0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; Has anyone bought the PowerFlyer for the A4000? :)

Got one here. But i pre-ordered. :)


-- 
===================================
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===================================

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<HR><A NAME=mess40670></A><CENTER>Message 40670</CENTER><BR>
From :James Lowe &lt;j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: UKOnline getting more unreliable
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:11:21 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Excuse me Tom, what was that you were saying about UKOnline getting more =
unreliable?
&lt;sb&gt;

&gt; strICQ, thats probly it, I did get around 8000 cps when sending a
&gt; 100k mail tho

Looks like that is the problem. 8000 cps is much more like it, though
(actually, it's quite impressive for SMTP - usually, it's slower).

&gt;&gt; ... "Bother," said Tom Underwood, as he received his phone-bill.

&gt; :)

Hmm... more proof that Tag-o-Miga (my tagline adder) has AI...
didn't even notice that it had chosen that tagline :)

&lt;sb&gt;
*#James Lowe#*  */E-Mail/*: j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk   */ICQ:/* 15846720
            */WWW   /*: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/j.lowe/
            */Virus Help Team Netherlands*/ - http://welcome.to/vht-nl/
&lt;sb&gt;
=2E.. Never meddle in the affairs of cats, for they will pee on your keyb=
oard



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<HR><A NAME=mess40671></A><CENTER>Message 40671</CENTER><BR>
From :James Lowe &lt;j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Ultra super fast speedy mega CPU (aka the 68040)
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:42:23 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Hey, Paul! Can I have some Ultra super fast speedy mega CPU (aka the 68040)?
&lt;sb&gt;

&gt; Well seeing as the first and last four are locked by WB, and I only
&gt; have 8, you won't be surprised to find you're right! But does it
&gt; matter?

Yes, if you use programs on the Workbench screen that need the last
four pens to be free. But if you use these programs on a different
screen, then no, it doesn't matter.

&gt; I just want to be able to play mp3s at max possible speed.

Well, that's an easy one. Get MPEGA if you haven't already got it, and
use the following command line:

   mpega -i -C -D -F 22050 -x 22050 -m -T -I -f 0 -t 5 -q0 -p20 -b128

and put the path and filename of the MP3 file at the end (but only at
the end, otherwise MPEGA will get confused).

Seeing as you have a 040 (whereas I only have a 030), you can afford
to bump the quality up a bit. The options here will play all MP3s
smoothly, though it will take over your machine while it's playing
unless you change the -p option (priority) to less than 10. Just type
'mpega' on it's own to get a rundown of all the options.

&lt;sb&gt;
*#James Lowe#*  */E-Mail/*: j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk   */ICQ:/* 15846720
            */WWW   /*: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/j.lowe/
            */Virus Help Team Netherlands*/ - http://welcome.to/vht-nl/
&lt;sb&gt;
... This punishment is not boring and pointless.



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<HR><A NAME=mess40672></A><CENTER>Message 40672</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Bullock" &lt;i03427@trogsoft.freeserve.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Seasons Greetings
<BR>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:09:03 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; So who's gonna be the sad gimps on here on Christmas
&gt; day? hehe

That'll be me then :) Only to download mail and possibly send some if I have
time. If I don't check my mail everyday, it REALLY mounts up...

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
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<HR><A NAME=mess40673></A><CENTER>Message 40673</CENTER><BR>
From :Peter Gordon &lt;mrtickle@amiga4k.ndo.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: LZX under OS3.5
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:48:18 +0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; There is that aspect. Microsoft have a practice of employing good
&gt; programmers just to stop them being employed by the competition.

Oh my god! The evil sods! What sort of company goes around hiring good pr=
ogrammers? This is disgraceful :)


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<HR><A NAME=mess40674></A><CENTER>Message 40674</CENTER><BR>
From :James Lowe &lt;j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: afb-ot getting more unreliable
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:54:18 +0000
<BR><PRE>
afb-ot getting more unreliable? What are you talking about, fool?
&lt;sb&gt;

&gt; Hello you dull afb type people ;p,

Oi! I may be dull, but at least I'm sane! Sort of... ;)

&gt;&gt; into a gibbering wreck by the time they're finished ;)

&gt; I don't know why you're smiling.  That statement is completely true.

Exactly. That's why you must leave!

&gt; We've already turned Neil Bollock into a gibbering wreck (although

I assume that first 'o' in Neil's surname was a typo :)

&gt; Norbert's 'normous norberts...) and he's happy now. In fact,

Hmm... no comment :)

&gt; Go on, join afb-ot, you know it makes no sense! Go on, go on, go on,
&gt; go on, go on! GO ON!!!!

No :P

&gt; Join afb-ot or we'll kill you!

Erm... okay, when you put it like that :)

EOT, and I may do it. Or I may not. :P

&lt;sb&gt;
*#James Lowe#*  */E-Mail/*: j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk   */ICQ:/* 15846720
            */WWW   /*: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/j.lowe/
            */Virus Help Team Netherlands*/ - http://welcome.to/vht-nl/
&lt;sb&gt;
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<HR><A NAME=mess40675></A><CENTER>Message 40675</CENTER><BR>
From :James Lowe &lt;j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: afb-ot (WAS:UKOnline getting more unreliable)
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:47:40 +0000
<BR><PRE>
Oh, no! It's fool, muttering something about afb-ot again!
&lt;sb&gt;

[don't want to know what goes on in afb-ot]

&gt; Oh yes you do! (well it is panto season, and yes, I know I've

Oh, no I don't ;)

&gt; already used that one on afb-ot, but I liked it so much I thought it
&gt; deserved a wider audience :)

You're insane ;)

&gt;&gt; in private mail, we don't want to turn afb into an extension of
&gt;&gt; afb-ot... well, not any more than it already is ;)

&gt; afb-ot is supposed to be an extension of afb! It's supposed to be

I know, but we don't want to turn the original ML into an extension of
the extension (or something like that ;)

&gt; joypads?" which no one wants to read on here, not that we want to
&gt; read them on afb-ot - it'd interfere with the sheer madness :)

And who really cares about who invented joypads - they suck anyway ;)

Ah, I give in. You've got me on the list :)

Anyway, I think we should call this EOT, before we get complaints.
This isn't afb-ot, remember ;)

&lt;sb&gt;
*#James Lowe#*  */E-Mail/*: j.lowe@ukonline.co.uk   */ICQ:/* 15846720
            */WWW   /*: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/j.lowe/
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&lt;sb&gt;
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<HR><A NAME=mess40676></A><CENTER>Message 40676</CENTER><BR>
From :"Neil Bullock" &lt;tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: afb-ot getting more unreliable
<BR>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:14:20 -0000
<BR><PRE>
&gt; &gt; We've already turned Neil Bollock into a gibbering wreck (although
&gt; I assume that first 'o' in Neil's surname was a typo :)

Don't bank on it :) They seem to call me that. And how many times in my life
do you think I've heard it? Yet I still refrain from hurting anyone :)

&gt; &gt; Norbert's 'normous norberts...) and he's happy now. In fact,
&gt; Hmm... no comment :)

No, good choice of action :)

&gt; EOT, and I may do it. Or I may not. :P

Ooh. :)

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
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<HR><A NAME=mess40677></A><CENTER>Message 40677</CENTER><BR>
From :JRB &lt;jrsburch@swbell.net&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] PAY NO TAXES!!!
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:00:44 -0600
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<HR><A NAME=mess40678></A><CENTER>Message 40678</CENTER><BR>
From :=?iso-8859-1?q?Mirrorball?= &lt;djoutlaws@yahoo.com&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Seasons Greetings [A Bit OT]
<BR>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:30:55 -0800 (PST)
<BR><PRE>


Hey!
&gt; &gt; So who's gonna be the sad gimps on here on
&gt; Christmas
&gt; &gt; day? hehe
&gt; 
&gt; That'll be me then :) Only to download mail and
&gt; possibly send some if I have
&gt; time. If I don't check my mail everyday, it REALLY
&gt; mounts up...

Know what you mean, it's all these mailing lists!  AA,
AFB, Ministry of Sound, UK Garage list, get about 450
a day!  Maybe a feature on sorting out emails would be
a good idea for AF?....

So Neil, you're on here late, hows the diskmags going?

Regards

DAN WOOD


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<HR><A NAME=mess40679></A><CENTER>Message 40679</CENTER><BR>
From :"Mark Dale" &lt;mark.d@free4all.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Quake/Warp(3D) Sooooooon? maybe ;-)
<BR>Date: 23 Dec 99 07:20:50 -0500
<BR><PRE>
Hi all,

       I hear that WinQuake,GLQuake,QuakeWorld & GLQuake World source
code has been released at the following URLs :-

ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/q1source.zip
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/source/q1source.zip
ftp://ftp.3dgamers.com/pub/3daction/00archives/quake/unsupported/q1source.zip
ftp://ftp2.3dgamers.com/pub/3daction/00archives/quake/unsupported/q1source.zip

So could someone please inform me when an optimised version of this
great 3D classic is available for download, as I would dearly love to
be able to play this game on my Blizzard Vision PPC along side
WipeOut2097. Especially on the internet through Quake World.

Merry Xmas & long Live the AMIGA in the new Millennium

Mark (mark.d@ukonline.co.uk)

URL :- www.welcome.to/baug

( Virtual Birmingham Amiga User Group )


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<HR><A NAME=mess40680></A><CENTER>Message 40680</CENTER><BR>
From :"Andrew McCombe" &lt;andrew@instant-print.co.uk&gt;
<BR>Subject: [afb] Re: Who? What? Where? When? How?
<BR>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:43:57 -0000
<BR><PRE>
My reply to your questions is as follows:

Where, when etc.

Never - you wanna use your Amiga? You're just gonna have to bolt, build and
add on to your existing setup - it gets rougher and harder the longer we
wait.

There will not ever be a new Amiga.
Reality 1, Dreams 0.



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