Hello Bert


>> 5) Was the 5.05 the latest version of Final Writer? =

> =

> The latest FW I am aware of is FW97, not sure if it is 5.05.
> =

> Where can I find it?
> =

> Don't know. Tried to get it a year ago but could not get hold of a copy=
=2E So
> went for WW


well at the time the upgrade came out it was priced about =A329.99 (somet=
hing
like that anyhow) I use v 5.03 British version and did not think the upgr=
ade
price was worth it .(the reports at the time said same thing) still using=

5.03 fine here.

                 Cheers all the best

                      Ken Walsh




  Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 =

            'Coming soon the new Amiga MCC'

Stephen Harris didst speaketh about [afb] Re: pinball games herein. So I =
reply:

>> Pinball Illusions with *four tables* (the >Vikings table wasn't
>> included in the Amiga version due to lack of disk space), but
>> unfortunately, they don't
>> have that either. Oh well, {sigh}... I did try my best for you all!
> Does that mean that the PC version has the 4th table?

I saw it once in a PC shop going second hand - looking at the back of
the box, there was Vikings. So yes, it does.

-- =

Peter Price
Gone, but not forgotten - A=B2?

"Oh no--- I know what you want--- You coveteth my ice cream bar!" -Ren

Neil Bothwick wrote:

> 
> They didn't produce two drives, they only produced the external SCSI
> one for a couple of years. The SCSI is still only available as external
> AFAIK. The IDE internal was a later addition to the range.
> 

They also produced the internalk SCSI ZIP for Apple remember.
And they can still be bought - some suppliers in the States sell them as OEM
packs (in packs of 5 or 10) if you are building you own. But Iomega Europe
doesn't - only Apple did.

Although I'm sure I saw someones site selling them (OEM packs) of internal
SCSI in the UK, but I'm damned if I can remember who it was.

Q for everyone - if I was able to get hold of some internal SCSI ZIP drives
- how many would be interested?

l8r

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Tom Waddington wrote:
> 
> Aaagghhh! It's look*A*like. Not lookielike. Lookielike doesn't mean
> anything. It's a contraction of look and alike. Because it's used when
> two people look... alike. So stop it. Now.

Down my way - Bristol/North Somerset - we say lookielikie - look-ee-like-ee
- for some bizarre reason. We all know that it is lookalike but we have
regionalised the word and made it more fun (did I say that?) :)

So look*A*like or look*ie*lik*ie I know what it means, so I don't care :)

l8r

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j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25752

> Q for everyone - if I was able to get hold of some internal SCSI ZIP
drives
> - how many would be interested?

How much would they sell for?

John

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25726
> On 23-Aug-99 23:27:49 BST, morden wrote:
> 
> > Quoting Oliver Roberts <oliver.roberts@iname.com>:
> >> Yeah, I've got the same problem.  I have been unable to locate
NListTree
> >> anywhere - it's not on any of the AFCDs either :(  Anybody know
where it
> >> can be found?
> 
> > Quick search on Aminet:
> >
> > MCC_NList0_89.lha  dev/mui    187K
> 
> Ah, yes, I found that too - but, it doesn't include NListtree.mcc
which is
> what we're after.

Don`t know how up to date this is, but I found this on Tumult:

http://home3.inet.tele.dk/ole_f/bin2/MCC_NewListTree.lzx

It`s version 0.2. I haven`t been following the thread- does this need
to be updated to work with IBrowse 2.1?

John Hart

Just been looking around some sites for the offline HTML browser that
uses HTMLview.mcc

Anyone know where to find it?

John

On 23 Aug 1999, Oliver Roberts wrote:

> > Quoting Oliver Roberts <oliver.roberts@iname.com>:
> >> Yeah, I've got the same problem.  I have been unable to locate NListTree
> >> anywhere - it's not on any of the AFCDs either :(  Anybody know where it
> >> can be found?
> 
> > Quick search on Aminet:
> >
> > MCC_NList0_89.lha  dev/mui    187K
> 
> Ah, yes, I found that too - but, it doesn't include NListtree.mcc which is
> what we're after.
> 
Contact ibrowse-support@hisoft.co.uk  I'm sure they will be able to help
;-)

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Tel: +44 1525 718181 Fax: +44 1525 713716 Freecall: 0500 223 660
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[about polls]

> How about putting the reminder in the group's sig, underneath the
quote
> sensibly message?

Um, I presume that only comes in the mail?
It doesn't seem to be in eGroups, unless I'm missing something...

What would I know? :-)

Rob L

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25757
> 
> On 23 Aug 1999, Oliver Roberts wrote:
> 
> > > Quoting Oliver Roberts <oliver.roberts@iname.com>:
> > >> Yeah, I've got the same problem.  I have been unable to locate
NListTree
> > >> anywhere - it's not on any of the AFCDs either :(  Anybody know
where it
> > >> can be found?
> > 
> > > Quick search on Aminet:
> > >
> > > MCC_NList0_89.lha  dev/mui    187K
> > 
> > Ah, yes, I found that too - but, it doesn't include NListtree.mcc
which is
> > what we're after.
> > 
> Contact ibrowse-support@hisoft.co.uk  I'm sure they will be able to
help
> ;-)

We`re losing time Steve! Voyager3 pre2 is out and no sign of IB 2.1 yet?

I want it to DESTROY them ;)

John

j.hart@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > Q for everyone - if I was able to get hold of some internal SCSI ZIP
> drives
> > - how many would be interested?
> 
> How much would they sell for?
> 

The cheapest I can track down are bare drives with no s/w or media.

Would make them somewhere in the region of 100 incl VAT & postage if
I sold them through my company.

Interested?

l8r

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Andy wrote about mouse wheels:
> Wouldn't some paddle type rocker switch be more ergonomic than a
> wheel ? I reckon it would cause less middle finger ache, or summat.

I can't actually begin to imagine what a "paddle type rocker switch"
would be, but...

in practice, the wheels are multifunction. For a start, you can press
them, in which case they act just like a middle mouse button.

Normally, if you click them, they enable an autoscroll function, which
means if you move the mouse down, it will start scrolling the window
down at a steady rate. If you move the mouse down a bit further, it
scrolls faster. Same in the other direction.

If you hold the wheel/button down, then the scrolling happens as you
move the mouse (if you see what I mean) rather than autoscrolling.

I presume it's obvious how it works if you actually rotate the wheel...

Rob L

> Just been looking around some sites for the offline HTML browser that
> uses HTMLview.mcc
> 
> Anyone know where to find it?

AFCD43 (IIRC) and at http://www.diku.dk/students/duff IIRC

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 j.hart@ukonline.co.uk wrote:

> > > > Quoting Oliver Roberts <oliver.roberts@iname.com>:
> > > >> Yeah, I've got the same problem.  I have been unable to locate
> NListTree
> > > >> anywhere - it's not on any of the AFCDs either :(  Anybody know
> where it
> > > >> can be found?
> > > 
> > > > Quick search on Aminet:
> > > >
> > > > MCC_NList0_89.lha  dev/mui    187K
> > > 
> > > Ah, yes, I found that too - but, it doesn't include NListtree.mcc
> which is
> > > what we're after.
> > > 
> > Contact ibrowse-support@hisoft.co.uk  I'm sure they will be able to
> help
> > ;-)
> 
> We`re losing time Steve! Voyager3 pre2 is out and no sign of IB 2.1 yet?

IB 2.1 will be out in the next few days...

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Tel: +44 1525 718181 Fax: +44 1525 713716 Freecall: 0500 223 660
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Although we have lost allot of good developers e.g. Vulcan, softwood
and now digita what has happened has done some good aswell.  I have
found that the average amiga user is a nice guy/girl, always willing to
help, you don't have to worry about update your virus checker every day
(most of the time you don't need to for at least a month), developers
spend there time creating quality software instead of competing and
suing each other, most of the most famous people in the amiga platform
are dedicated and normal users who want want best for the machine
instead being money grabbing corporate types.  The amiga owners are
clearly defined and make sure the amiga doesn't end up like the PC
where thousands of companies spin out thousands of different machines
and which makes the one you bought last week out of date.

Please don't get me wrong I still don't think that the Bill Gates types
are nice guys, I still hate them after all the didn't do this to the
amiga intenionally and it is not really a good thing but this is the
bright side.
MASC

You're actually putting two issues together: one of "look" and one
"technical".
 
>    o I prefer MagicWB icons
>    o I prefer the default NewIcon look
>    o I prefer the GlowIcon look
>    o I prefer Iconographics icons
>    o I prefer the classic C= icons
>    o I like a different style that isn't mentioned

This one's about look.

>    o I don't care as long as it doesn't use NewIcons
>    o I don't care as long as it uses NewIcon

This is technical. 

The reason I bring this up: How do the 3.5 icons work? Are they
completely the same as NewIcons (images encoded in the ToolTypes), or
did they rework the file's layout? I know the new icon.library
*supports* the NewIcons way of doing things, but is there a *new* way?

Joris

You're actually putting two issues together: one of "look" and one
"technical".

 >   o I prefer MagicWB icons
 >   o I prefer the default NewIcon look
     * I prefer the GlowIcon look
 >   o I prefer Iconographics icons
 >   o I prefer the classic C= icons
 >   o I like a different style that isn't mentioned

This one's about look.

 >   o I don't care as long as it doesn't use NewIcons
     * I don't care as long as it uses NewIcon

Mark Cheetham wrote: 
 
> You're actually putting two issues together: one of "look" and one
> "technical".

Except of course, that the NewIcons system is SO much better than the
original in terms of what you can achieve style-wise.

My answer was "don't care as long as it uses NewIcons", but I don't
even care if it does use NewIcons, technically - I simply meant as long
as they make good use of colours (which the original icon system just
can't do)

Rob L

> 
> This is technical. 
> 
> The reason I bring this up: How do the 3.5 icons work? Are they
> completely the same as NewIcons (images encoded in the ToolTypes), or
> did they rework the file's layout? I know the new icon.library
> *supports* the NewIcons way of doing things, but is there a *new* way?

The icons are stored internally in the .info file, as in NOT tooltypes,
With a (slightly) better compression method I'm told. There is a new
icon editor that will convert Newicons to New Icons :) on the fly,
and I think the installer will convert them for you anyway, but if you
DON'T convert them, the new icon.library will load them anyway without
any naff patches. Also totally compatible with original system, will
work fine with DOpus etc. I'm told..

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Folks,

Does anyone know of a patch for syndicate that makes it run at a sane
playable speed on an accelerated Amiga? (030/50).  I've searched Aminet
to no avail.

cheers
-- 
rob  

Malcolm Harnden wrote:
> Just saw a review of OS 3.5 on 3.SAT`s satellite Computer Channel. It
> showed in detail the new time and or locale settings. The new 4+ Gig
> hard drive settings including settings for SCSI built in. Also some
> bits of hardware were shown finally ending with the release date for
> OS 3.5 being the end of September.

  Dexter Fletcher uses an Amiga on the Rachel Files to store his evaluation
of Rachel.  It was on last night.



bye,
  Chris


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> Dexter Fletcher uses an Amiga on the Rachel Files to store 
> his evaluation of Rachel.  It was on last night.

Yeah, I saw that. An alright film, spoilt somewhat by the
cockney idiot :)

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"Sealey, M." wrote:
> > Dexter Fletcher uses an Amiga on the Rachel Files to store
> > his evaluation of Rachel.  It was on last night.
> 
> Yeah, I saw that. An alright film, spoilt somewhat by the
> cockney idiot :)

  To be honest I wasn't really looking at him ;)  More li

eddi-@maddock.prestel.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D25764

Hi MASC
 
> Please don't get me wrong I still don't think that the Bill Gates
types
> are nice guys, I still hate them after all the didn't do this to the
> amiga intenionally and it is not really a good thing but this is the
> bright side.

I can't say I particularly hate the Bill Gates mob. I don't have any
feelings for them really, as I've no interest in owning a PC full
stop. I'm one of those 'lucky' people who doesn't have to use PC's at
work and, as such, find my present set up perfectly adequate for what
I need. The only reason I'll be buying a NGAmiga when it comes out is
to 'hopefully' play some kick ass games and 'hopefully' get more out
of the internet. (Then again, Voyager=B3 is nearly out and that's got a
shockwave plugin - working albeit a bit crudely but, hey, it's a
start) Personally, I love watching the PC brigade charging ahead
trying to come up with ever more overblown bits of software that need
better hardware to run it - and then getting something similar on the
Amiga a year or so later. Every time my Pentium owning brother tells
me "your Amiga can't do this", I usually reply with "not yet it can't"

He hates that  :)

Cheers,

Eddie

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D25773
> eddi-@maddock.prestel.co.uk wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D25764
> 
> Hi MASC
> 
> > Please don't get me wrong I still don't think that the Bill Gates
> types
> > are nice guys, I still hate them after all the didn't do this to the
> > amiga intenionally and it is not really a good thing but this is the
> > bright side.
> 
> I can't say I particularly hate the Bill Gates mob. I don't have any
> feelings for them really, as I've no interest in owning a PC full
> stop. I'm one of those 'lucky' people who doesn't have to use PC's at
> work and, as such, find my present set up perfectly adequate for what
> I need. The only reason I'll be buying a NGAmiga when it comes out is
> to 'hopefully' play some kick ass games and 'hopefully' get more out
> of the internet. (Then again, Voyager=B3 is nearly out and that's got a
> shockwave plugin - working albeit a bit crudely but, hey, it's a
> start) Personally, I love watching the PC brigade charging ahead
> trying to come up with ever more overblown bits of software that need
> better hardware to run it - and then getting something similar on the
> Amiga a year or so later. Every time my Pentium owning brother tells
> me "your Amiga can't do this", I usually reply with "not yet it can't"

Can anyone give a pretty complete list of the "standards" on other
platforms which are not yet implemented on Amiga?

I can ATM think of:

RealMedia
Microsoft Office
Java
DVD
Those Windows media formats (?)
Speech recognition (?)

As you say, there`s good stuff hopefully coming.

John Hart 

> "Sealey, M." wrote:
> > > Dexter Fletcher uses an Amiga on the Rachel Files to store
> > > his evaluation of Rachel.  It was on last night.
> > 
> > Yeah, I saw that. An alright film, spoilt somewhat by the
> > cockney idiot :)
> 
>   To be honest I wasn't really looking at him ;)  More li

li?

I get your drift, but it would have been better with someone
less.. distracting?

fnarr fnarr etc.

Neko

> Can anyone give a pretty complete list of the "standards" on other
> platforms which are not yet implemented on Amiga?
> 
> I can ATM think of:
> 
> RealMedia

Are implemented. Well, the old 14.4 and 28.8 RA formats are.

> Microsoft Office

VERY difficult, Office docs are actually complex COM constructs
and the Amiga doesn't have a standardised COM interface yet.

People moan that you can't read Office documents on other
platforms. But the reason they can't is because Microsoft have
tied it to COM, which is funnily enough included in Windows
and neglected (installed but rarely used) by anything else.

> Java

Coming soon..

> DVD

Also coming soon..

> Those Windows media formats (?)

Don't need them.

> Speech recognition (?)

Would need a standardised way of audio data
aquisition. We need a REAL RTA SOLUTION!

OS4.0 anyone? Come on, I'm starting a campaign :)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"Sealey, M." wrote:
> >   To be honest I wasn't really looking at him ;)  More li
> li?

  Erm... ah.   I thought that I'd cancelled the message! (Half way 
through a sentance).  Don't ever let me near anything dangerous...

> I get your drift, but it would have been better with someone
> less.. distracting?
> 
> fnarr fnarr etc.

  Indeed. Erm, what was the plot again?  ;)  (Don't answer that one).



bye,
  Chris


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On 22-Aug-99, Matthew wrote:

> Alot of programs I download from aminet have the nasty habit of
> crashing my machine spectacularly, which has the side effect of
> screwing my clock up.... :/

Okay. I wasn't really bothered, it wasn't a "Set your bloody clock"
sort of reply. I even added a smiley at first, but it dropped off the
end of the line and looked silly all on its own, so I deleted it.
-- 
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ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 22-Aug-99, Matthew wrote:

>> Young girl? I hope you don't mean the kid with the metal boomerang.
> That was a boy for crying out loud!!! I mean the girl, looked about
> 18 in the film, one with the white headband

Was it? Crikey...

Ah yes, I know the one you mean now. She didn't have a name, AIR, she
was just "Warrior Girl" on the credits. Or maybe that was her name.
You can never tell with the Mad Max films.

> Lord of the Flies?

Yep, that's the one.
-- 
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email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Gary wrote:

> I'm still looking for the horror-novel-to-keep-you-awake-at-night,
> and TBH I wouldn't even call Stephen King a horror writer (perhaps
> supernatural fiction, if it has to have a label). I'd definitely say

Agreed. Maybe I just don't scare easy, I dunno.

> the more fantasy-orientated books (Talisman with Peter Straub and
> the Dark Tower series) are amongst his best.

I haven't read those, because the horror is so unspectacular. In
fantasy I prefer J. V. Jones and Robin Hobb. Melanie Rawn's Exiles
trilogy is good, but I never found the courage to buy her older stuff
due to the exceptionally dodgy air brushed covers with naked women on.

Ah, I don't know. First I'm judging books by their length, now the
cover. Wherever will it end? ;)

Stan Nicholls is good too. David Eddings bores me, and his writing
comes across as unbearably smug considering all the grammatical errors
he makes. And the continual repetition of unfunny jokes (I know, I
know: "look who's talking").

The problem is Jones, Hobb and Rawn won't finish the next part in each
of their current trilogies until the end of next year, so I find
myself reading all sorts of stuff these days. Y'know, classics and
stuff. ;)

> What about 'Nightmares and Dreamscapes', 'Skeleton Crew' or any of
> the other short-story/novella (hate that word) collections ;)

/Nightmares and Dreamscapes/ was good. I think he should stick to short
stories, he does it /sooo/ much better than novels. Although none of
them were what I'd call scary, some succeeded in being creepy.

The first story in /N&D/ where that guy plans to murder a man by
burying him alive in his car was quite Edgar Allan Poe-ish (Edgar
Allan Poe-tic?). The conclusion as he starts to shovel the earth in
was particularly reminiscent of /The Cask of Amontillado/.

For the love of God, Montresor, indeed. He spoilt the effect a bit by
giving us a perfectly reasonable motive for the killing and then
carrying on after the murder. A good effort otherwise, I'll give him a
B+ for that one.
-- 
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On 23-Aug-99, 4-0 wrote:

> It seems that Nicks new job isn't paying as much as he'd hoped
> for... U'see I've got photographic evidence that he has now turned
> to a LIFE OF CRIME! Goto http://www.beamer.u-net.com for the
> shocking evidence....

I can't be arsed to go and look at the web site. Is it just the old
C+VG photo story advert he was in?
-- 
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email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

> On 22-Aug-99, Matthew wrote:
> 
> > Alot of programs I download from aminet have the nasty habit of
> > crashing my machine spectacularly, which has the side effect of
> > screwing my clock up.... :/
> 
> Okay. I wasn't really bothered, it wasn't a "Set your bloody clock"
> sort of reply. I even added a smiley at first, but it dropped off the
> end of the line and looked silly all on its own, so I deleted it.

Tell 'Matthew' to get TimeSwipe from the Aminet. That won't crash
your machine, but WILL ask you if you want to reset the time if
your clock does screw up.

Or use Atomic with Miami or Genesis (on Aminet) which synchs your
Amiga to an atomic clock somewhere. DST enabled as well..

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> I'm still looking for the horror-novel-to-keep-you-awake-at-night,
> and TBH I wouldn't even call Stephen King a horror writer (perhaps
> supernatural fiction, if it has to have a label). I'd definitely say

Read 'The Rats' by James Herbert, that scared me shitless for weeks.

Actually it's more funny than scary, but in a nasty grimace-worthy
gory kind of way..

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25776
> > Can anyone give a pretty complete list of the "standards" on other
> > platforms which are not yet implemented on Amiga?
> > 
> > I can ATM think of:
> > 
> > RealMedia
> 
> Are implemented. Well, the old 14.4 and 28.8 RA formats are.

OK, but video isn`t. 

Have you tried RA? I`m wondering if you can use Web Radio stuff
perfectly on the Amiga with it. [thinks] There`s a PPC version of RA on
the site for Lamer I think...

> 
> > Microsoft Office
> 
> VERY difficult, Office docs are actually complex COM constructs
> and the Amiga doesn't have a standardised COM interface yet.

What`s the NG getting- Coral office? Can this read Microsoft Formats?

> > Speech recognition (?)
> 
> Would need a standardised way of audio data
> aquisition. We need a REAL RTA SOLUTION!

Where`s ARTAS gone?

> 
> OS4.0 anyone? Come on, I'm starting a campaign :)

CU did an article on "OS 4.0" ages ago. Some of the stuff is actually
still relevant. Good articles in CU. The mock screenshot was horrible
though...

John

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25780
> On 23-Aug-99, Gary wrote:
> 
> > I'm still looking for the horror-novel-to-keep-you-awake-at-night,
> > and TBH I wouldn't even call Stephen King a horror writer (perhaps
> > supernatural fiction, if it has to have a label). I'd definitely say
> 
> Agreed. Maybe I just don't scare easy, I dunno.

H P Lovecraft is pretty cool.

John

j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25782

> Tell 'Matthew' to get TimeSwipe from the Aminet. That won't crash
> your machine, but WILL ask you if you want to reset the time if
> your clock does screw up.

I use ClockCheck (clockchk.lha). Very small, Very good for this. Uses
just the one env var. Execute it from user-startup.

> 
> Or use Atomic with Miami or Genesis (on Aminet) which synchs your
> Amiga to an atomic clock somewhere. DST enabled as well..

Atomic has got a lot better, I`ve installed it not long ago :)

John

> > > RealMedia
> > 
> > Are implemented. Well, the old 14.4 and 28.8 RA formats are.
> 
> OK, but video isn`t. 
> 
> Have you tried RA?

Yeah, I can find a few ancient sites that work :)

> > > Microsoft Office
> > 
> > VERY difficult, Office docs are actually complex COM constructs
> > and the Amiga doesn't have a standardised COM interface yet.
> 
> What`s the NG getting- Coral office? Can this read Microsoft Formats?

Corel [pr. cor-ell]

Yes, through Linux's COM system. Which nobody uses because nobody
in the hacker community thought to ask :)
 
> > > Speech recognition (?)
> > 
> > Would need a standardised way of audio data
> > aquisition. We need a REAL RTA SOLUTION!
> 
> Where`s ARTAS gone?

Marc Albrecht was - for want of a better word - a cnut.
Mardy git, he ditched the Amiga because nobody would buy
his niche-market products. Clearly they don't have the
word niche in the German vocabulary :)

ARTAS was never going to be REAL RTA anyway. You'd
have to replace audio.device for that, and AHI isn't
up to it.

> > OS4.0 anyone? Come on, I'm starting a campaign :)
> 
> CU did an article on "OS 4.0" ages ago. Some of the stuff is actually
> still relevant. Good articles in CU. The mock screenshot was horrible
> though...

Yeah, I have it. OS4.0 was supposed to be the mid-level between
OS3.0 and OS5.0, when there was a real upgrade path. It wasn't
always NG Amiga and QNX and Linux - they were just going to
upgrade the hardware and revamp the OS for PPC - "do an Apple"

I would like an OS4.0 anyway. 3.5 is too limited by it's not-ROM-based
quirks, and you have to remember that not everyone actually WANTS a
new computer system when their A1200 (with PPC card of course) or
whatever can do what they want. Not EVERBODY wants AmigaObjects, however
cool they are. That, my friend, is me :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On 23-Aug-99, Tony wrote:

> Don't appologise! I always thought AUI had virtually limitless
> potential for improvement, but I was never allowed to do anything

Well, it was pretty much straight down after the Saddam incident,
wasn't it? They did the best (floppy) cover disks, though.

> other than game reviews in my days there. CU was never a favourite
> of mine either, and only started to come good once I got some say in

Always felt a little bit fanziney to me (not necessarily in a bad way).
And I could never take it seriously after the Masterclass bit (by that
bloke with all the hair, Tony Dillon?) that said the only way to
remove the Trashcan from a disk was to reformat.

Eek!

The quality did rise dramatically towards the end, though. I missed
the video reviews and suchlike a little bit. Of course, that was all
long dead when you started, so it wasn't your fault.

And then, just when I'd decided it was worth buying every month, EMAP
go and close the damned thing. *Sob*. :(

But seriously, it's funny isn't it? The (classic) Amiga isn't so much
on it's last legs as on the last few shovels of earth, but the
software and magazines we're getting are, IMHO, better than ever. If
Amiga Power had stuck around (and indeed, had had a reason to stick
around) I dare say I'd be as happy as Bill Gate$ in a buyout.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Eddie wrote:

> You lucky sod. I've just had my 38th birthday and have just been
> reminded that all the Eddie Maddocks' in our family drop dead at 
> 40 / 41 from heart attacks (gotta love that cholesterol - it's name
> specific as well)

Erm, just a thought but, maybe your lot should stop calling kids
Eddie, then? ;)
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 22-Aug-99, Ian wrote:

> Oh, and the little PD game, Amiganoid. What do you all think? I find
> it damn addictive, and with the two paddles it can be eeeeeeevil
> when things speed up - twice as much room to lose your ball! And it
> says "AF" in it... :)

IIRC it was originally written for an AF coverdisk.

> For those who haven't noticed, the Pinball Illusions Prefs thingy I
> mentioned earlier is now on the website... Christ, my 'phone bill
> will be heeeeeouwge!

It might save some people a download to know that the Pinball prefs
program was on the first Disk 4 you uploaded, so they may already have
it. You just have to copy it into the Pinball3 directory. Assuming
you've installed it to a hard drive, of course.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, a Masked Man wrote:

> Do you believe in protecting the integrity of Amiga software?

Of course.

> Do you believe that it's wrong to steal somebody else's product,
> alter it, and then pass it off as your own?

Naturally.

> If you do, then you could do worse than visit
> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/screen/3695

If these allegations are found to be true I should hope that it would
be the last time he appears in AF.

> This site is created anonymously; I am posting this anonymously to
> allow the site to survive for as long as possible; although it is
> not my site, I know the owner, and he is not on this list.

If it /is/ true then there's no reason why the site should be closed.

> "like Hotmail but faster and a lot better"
> Carol Vorderman, The Mirror, writing about http://www.funmail.co.uk

Hahahahaha! Blimey, /must/ be good then. ;)
-- 
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On 23-Aug-99, Paul wrote:

>> The main target market for the MCC won't generally have a use for
>> floppy disks, so why bump up the price of the machine, and waste
>> expansion space in a relatively small case, by including a
>> peripheral that 90% of users will have no need for.
> A floppy drive won't bump up the price much at all. And I refuse to
> believe that 90% figure you made up. I reckon 99.9% of users will
> want a floppy /sometime/, and they're not going to have one just
> when they need it (rather like my ink cartridges :( )

So you make up another figure? Time for a poll, methinks.

I personally have used my floppy drive exactly twice in the last year.
both were in the last fortnight: firstly the Archos install disk which
I DMSed for someone and secondly for the Digital Illusions' pinball
games. Neither of these applications would be necessary on an MCC.

If the floppy drive is an external option then people who want it can
have it. If it's internal it's there adding to the cost (not much,but
adding nevertheless), drawing power, spoiling the gleaming facade and
increasing the boot time (again, not much but increasing) whether you
use it or not. It's a dead medium anyway; there's not much you can do
with 1.44 MB of storage.

There is a place for a modern day equivalent to floppies, a FloppyNG
if you will, but that place is already filled by Zip. Before you say
you haven't got and don't want a Zip drive, they only cost 150 (or
less if you shop around) for a 250 MB drive. There'll be a USB version
of the 250 out RSN that you'll be able to plug into any machine you
want, so it doesn't /matter/ if your mates/business/school/whoever
doesn't have one.

150 is peanuts for the convenience it offers.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
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ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Vincenzo wrote:

> AFAIK, everyday Tom try to answer as many email as the time allow to
> do so. If you think they receive one or two mails a day you are
> wrong. PowerC is in the PC business as well. The company deals with
> hundreds of customers every day.
> I understand your frustation and your anger. I really believe you
> have been unlucky in your relationship with PowerC.

I recently had to return a hard drive to Power. The first and second
drives I got were both broken. I received a reply to my email the
same day I sent it. I sent off the drive and got a new one 3 days
later. I've had no problems since.

Now, Power were legally obliged to replace it since it was still under
warranty. They were not obliged to respond so promptly, or send the
new drive by next day delivery. It's rare in the extreme to find
service that good from a computer supplier, I speak from bitter
experience.

I've been using Power for years and never had a problem they could
reasonably be blamed for. So leave off `em. Considering all the
non-standard peripherals and bizarre board revisions Amiga users, erm,
use, it's a wonder they manage the level of compatibility they do.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Neil wrote:

> mainly intended for use with Macs, hence the SCSI interface, tacky
> blue case and monosyllabic documentation.

Tacky? I like the case. Although the menagerie of external drive cases
sprawled across my desk is beginning to look... unusual... to say the
least.

You're right about the documentation though. I flicked through it
once, then used it to prop my wobbly desk up. So it was /sort/ of
useful. ;)
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
E-Mail  : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Gary wrote:

> I'm with you there, I've bought loads of gear from Power and I've
> always found them more than happy to help, or even just chat about
> future plans etc. They were even happy to suggest alternative
> dealers when they didn't have exactly what I wanted (like there's so
> many to choose from ;)).

I've bought hundreds of pounds worth of gear from Power, Eyetech and
Weird Science and never had a single problem with any of them. Usually
the person you're talking to knows a bit about what you're asking for
as well. I don't think you could ask for better service. It's not even
like the Amiga market is hugely profitable.

Oh, the above goes for Active Technologies as well.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

>From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
>Reply-To: afb@egroups.com
>To: afb@eGroups.com
>Subject: [afb] Re: I really hate... (was web pages :( )
>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:34:57 -0700
>
>j.har-@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25782
>
> > Tell 'Matthew' to get TimeSwipe from the Aminet. That won't crash
> > your machine, but WILL ask you if you want to reset the time if
> > your clock does screw up.
>
>I use ClockCheck (clockchk.lha). Very small, Very good for this. Uses
>just the one env var. Execute it from user-startup.
>
> >
> > Or use Atomic with Miami or Genesis (on Aminet) which synchs your
> > Amiga to an atomic clock somewhere. DST enabled as well..
>
>Atomic has got a lot better, I`ve installed it not long ago :)
>
>John
>
>
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>
>
please don't send any message any more


______________________________________________________

>From: Tom Waddington <mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: afb@egroups.com
>To: AFB <afb@egroups.com>
>Subject: [afb] Re: I really hate... (was web pages :( )
>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:06:18 +0100
>
>On 22-Aug-99, Matthew wrote:
>
> > Alot of programs I download from aminet have the nasty habit of
> > crashing my machine spectacularly, which has the side effect of
> > screwing my clock up.... :/
>
>Okay. I wasn't really bothered, it wasn't a "Set your bloody clock"
>sort of reply. I even added a smiley at first, but it dropped off the
>end of the line and looked silly all on its own, so I deleted it.
>--
>Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
>email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
>ICQ UIN : 43069792
>
>
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>
>
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> On 23-Aug-99, Tony wrote:

[AUI]
> Always felt a little bit fanziney to me (not necessarily in a 
> bad way). And I could never take it seriously after the Masterclass
> bit (by that bloke with all the hair, Tony Dillon?) that said the
> only way to remove the Trashcan from a disk was to reformat.
> 
> Eek!

Errm.. but that's true. Sure, you can just do a "Delete Trashcan#? FORCE"
and get rid of it, but it confuses the OS something rotten.. which he
rightly said. 
 
> And then, just when I'd decided it was worth buying every month, EMAP
> go and close the damned thing. *Sob*. :(

Is that a running theme or what?
 
> Amiga Power had stuck around (and indeed, had had a reason to stick
> around) I dare say I'd be as happy as Bill Gate$ in a buyout.

Amiga Power sucked. Sorry. It tried to be all things to all laddish
idiots, and is the magazine the Zealots and Pirates clung to. Games
games games, occasional bit of swearing, games, games.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On 23-Aug-99, Neil wrote:

> Are we talking about the Active with Chris Wiles in it? He was a tad
> vicious towards me a while back when I ommited Active from a poll I

Well, he has got somewhat of a temper. ;)

> If Ashley Scott was still here, I know what he'd call Chris :/

Ash is as bad...
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
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On 23-Aug-99, Alex wrote:

> Oh, and here's some actual Polish for you:
> Prosze tylko przystryc.

I take it the Poles aren't fond of vowels, then? ;)
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 23-Aug-99, Alex wrote:

>> Aaagghhh! It's look*A*like. Not lookielike. Lookielike doesn't mean
>> anything. It's a contraction of look and alike. Because it's used
>> when two people look... alike. So stop it. Now.
> Do you wanna take this to afb-ot and argue with me there?

Erm... if you like. I can't imagine what possible lexical argument you
could have for lookielike though.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

> So you make up another figure? Time for a poll, methinks.

Most users WON'T use a floppy drive, but it won't be a floppy
drive according to Jim C. and Rick LeF. - more an LS120 drive
which has much more potential.

And a standard floppy drive only costs =A310 to buy - think of
how much that is in EXTREME wholesale. =A31? 50p? Why do you
think they are so standard?
=20
> If the floppy drive is an external option then people who want it can
> have it.

Cue iMac style NO FLOPPY rantings from Linux and Amiga and most
just-come-from-a-PC users. It's not a technical aspect, it's more
appeasing the masses.

> =A3150 is peanuts for the convenience it offers.

So include a =A32.50 floppy drive (that's the most it would cost
Amiga to install it) and buy a USB Zip250. Sheesh!

Neko

> On 23-Aug-99, Neil wrote:
> 
> > mainly intended for use with Macs, hence the SCSI interface, tacky
> > blue case and monosyllabic documentation.
> 
> Tacky? I like the case. Although the menagerie of external drive cases
> sprawled across my desk is beginning to look... unusual... to say the
> least.

I think Neil meant that for all the niceties of a Bondi Blue semi-t/p
case, they aren't particularly useful. And they aren't made from the
BEST plastic in the world - it reminds me of those chew sticks you
get off the Beano (you know, the big strips of gooey stuff) when they
go hard. I can't remember what they are called, but Barrats make them.

Neko

>From: Tom Waddington <mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: afb@egroups.com
>To: AFB <afb@egroups.com>
>Subject: [afb] Re: Protect the Amiga's reputation
>Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:02:35 +0100
>
>On 23-Aug-99, a Masked Man wrote:
>
> > Do you believe in protecting the integrity of Amiga software?
>
>Of course.
>
> > Do you believe that it's wrong to steal somebody else's product,
> > alter it, and then pass it off as your own?
>
>Naturally.
>
> > If you do, then you could do worse than visit
> > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/screen/3695
>
>If these allegations are found to be true I should hope that it would
>be the last time he appears in AF.
>
> > This site is created anonymously; I am posting this anonymously to
> > allow the site to survive for as long as possible; although it is
> > not my site, I know the owner, and he is not on this list.
>
>If it /is/ true then there's no reason why the site should be closed.
>
> > "like Hotmail but faster and a lot better"
> > Carol Vorderman, The Mirror, writing about http://www.funmail.co.uk
>
>Hahahahaha! Blimey, /must/ be good then. ;)
>--
>Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
>email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
>ICQ UIN : 43069792
>
>
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>gotveren pezevenk ananin amina dolumu fiskirtayim,sonra onu sana yalatayim 
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LUFTU!

Try unsubscribing on the website if you
don't want to receive mails.

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University of Leicester

On 24-Aug-99, M. wrote:

> Errm.. but that's true. Sure, you can just do a "Delete Trashcan#?
> FORCE" and get rid of it, but it confuses the OS something rotten..
> which he rightly said.

Does it? Never noticed anything. I always just used SwazInfo to turn
it into a drawer then did a normal delete. Erm... what exactly do you
mean by "confuses"?

>> And then, just when I'd decided it was worth buying every month,
>> EMAP go and close the damned thing. *Sob*. :(
> Is that a running theme or what?

It's the first time I've said anything about it at all.

> Amiga Power sucked. Sorry. It tried to be all things to all laddish
> idiots, and is the magazine the Zealots and Pirates clung to. Games
> games games, occasional bit of swearing, games, games.

If you wanted games reviews it was good. I never bought it after about
issue 27 or so, so maybe it changed later.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 02:28:31PM +0100, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Amiga Power sucked. Sorry. It tried to be all things to all laddish
> idiots, and is the magazine the Zealots and Pirates clung to. Games
> games games, occasional bit of swearing, games, games.

If there was one word that I'd never have used to describe AP, it would
have been laddish. Swearing was never used as a stand-in for humour, and
describing anything written by Jonathan Nash using the same adjective as
you'd use for any of the current crop of "Men's magazines" is so blatantly
wrong it's physically painful. And given the way they continuously
insulted the most cretinous of their readers ("Don't phone us and ask for
cheats or we'll machinegun your fish pond with helicopter gunships")
hardly fits in with being "All things to all laddish idiots".

Are you sure you're not thinking of The One (fixated with the word "Arse")
or Amiga Action (Just plain dire, to the extent that the last few issues
mainly consisted of the writers complaining about the publishers and how
dire the magazine was)? I'd still see AP as being one of the most witty,
clever and generally well-written publications ever.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk
(Official honourary mighty being. Who will be in Bath on Saturday. To
mourn AP's death. Sob.)

"Sealey, M." wrote:
> Errm.. but that's true. Sure, you can just do a "Delete Trashcan#? FORCE"
> and get rid of it, but it confuses the OS something rotten.. which he
> rightly said.

  Really?  I've never heard of that before.  Really, I haven't.  What
happens? 

> Amiga Power sucked. Sorry. It tried to be all things to all laddish
> idiots, and is the magazine the Zealots and Pirates clung to. Games
> games games, occasional bit of swearing, games, games.

  Surely you lie!  Amiga Power was great and for a games magazine I think 
that "Games games games, occasional bit of swearing, games, games." is
perfectly acceptable.  There is only one thing in that sentance that
you could possibly dissagree with.  It had more character, and indeed 
characters, than any other mag that I've read.

  I don't know about the pirate hanger ons that you mention, but in one
readers poll they had to break off at the cheek of people.  Degeneration
was voted as one of people's favourites.  Yet it barely touched the charts.

  Oh, hang on.  I see what you mean :)




bye,
  Chris


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chrisandrews@earthling.net  - http://www.legpits.co.uk

Hi
Does anyone know of another UK distributor for MasterISO other than
Blittersoft?  I've tried ordring via them twice, and on both occasions was
told "well have it in stock in a few days"; the last time I cancelled 'cos
I couldn't be bothered to wait/mess about.... maybe it won't take as long
this time (just over a week so far - I called them today to be told another
few days) - or I'm just impatient!

RobM
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I don't really play many games on my miggy, but I have now decided that I
want to have a good old game of DOOM.
Don't cry out - get Quake, it's better - as I didn't like it that much on
the PC. I preferred the simplicity of DOOM.

I have an A4K with an 040/25, 16mb RAM and a Picasso IV.

My question is - which is the best version of DOOM taking into account that
I want good speed, sound, mouse control but don't care about the networking
side.

Thanks

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Hello Ken

On 22-Aug-99, you wrote:

> Hello Tom
> =

> =

>> BTW, does anyone remember that old /Porridge/ sketch?
>> =

>>   McEye: Oh? So you regard yourself as working class, eh?
>> Fletcher: Well I used to...`til I went up to Glasgow. Now I regard
>>          myself as middle class.
> =

> yes brill' bit that (but they was the city of culture not long back ;-)=


SO we was! But now its the city of Archy-texture as weel!;-)
Best
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Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everyone else.

8/9/99 Let's gauge the general feel amongst you lot! What will happen to the new Amiga once released and in the immediate future after its release?
----

Please select one of the following:

   o It's gonna flop big time! The PC has won it, Microsoft and the like are too big!
   o It could get a foot hold in the market, but I don't see Amiga getting anywhere
   o Perhaps a shakey start, but it'll never be the way it was.
   o It'll be there amongst other computers, but it won't quite reach the heights of the last Amigas
   o It may get to the last amount of market dominance, but it might not last
   o Its back and its gonna be influencial
   o Its back and its gonna be big
   o It's back and its gonna take over!!!!!


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=935503771219

Thank you!

Ne1 on the list interested in buying Quake? I don't play it anymore, any
offers?
<tsb>
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> My question is - which is the best version of DOOM taking 
> into account that I want good speed, sound, mouse control
> but don't care about the networking side.

DoomAttack was the fastest, most competant one I tried.
Ran like a dream on an 030/25, even better at 030/40
and should fly on an 040/25 like yours.

Mouse, decent sound support, everything

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Following on from a previous thread "Power Tower" where I was thinking of
importing internal SCSI ZIP drives - I've decided to not bother.

Dabs and Tech Direct do them for 81 plus delivery :( or :)

Power should start stocking them really as most people don't move them
between machines these days....

l8r

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Hi Tom,

> Aaagghhh! It's look*A*like. Not lookielike. Lookielike doesn't mean
> anything. It's a contraction of look and alike. Because it's used when
> two people look... alike. So stop it. Now.

I originally wrote "lookielikie" because it's the term used by French &
Saunders in their popular light comedy program...

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"OK Mom, I'm going to hypnotize you now,"
said Tom transparently.

Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> DoomAttack was the fastest, most competant one I tried.
> Ran like a dream on an 030/25, even better at 030/40
> and should fly on an 040/25 like yours.
> 
> Mouse, decent sound support, everything
> 

That was what I wanted. I'll go and try to download it - I already have a
registered PC WAD to use.

Thanks Matt :)

l8r

PS Did you end up at WOA? 'cos I owe you a drink (and Ben for that matter!)
- I'll send it virtually.

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Hello Matt,

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:

> The icons are stored internally in the .info file, as in NOT
> tooltypes, With a (slightly) better compression method I'm told. There
> is a new icon editor that will convert Newicons to New Icons :) on the
> fly, and I think the installer will convert them for you anyway, but
> if you DON'T convert them, the new icon.library will load them anyway
> without any naff patches. Also totally compatible with original
> system, will work fine with DOpus etc. I'm told..

Your explanation is right, but not that it works under DOpus (at least
not at the moment). Opus has to be updated to support the new
icon.library. Opus does continue to work and displays them in 4 colours
(or so I think, maybe 8?). The "New" Icons will display with four (or
eight :) colours under older OS versions, and in full colour under OS3.5
(maybe that's what you've meant with compatible :) 

Regards
-- 
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Hi Chris,

> Having followed this thread (and all other ones like always :) I did
> wonder - is it possible to get E-groups to mention the need to add the
> date when someone is creating a poll? Or even add the date automatically
> to every poll? Either possibility would make creating polls easier for all
> - especially newcomers who may not have read mails on the subject - and
> (virtually) negate the need to remind people every time a new poll is
> created.

I've even sent them some HTML to have more speedy polls (faster to
download), and including the date and not repeating info, like the topic.

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           I don't have any solution, 
        but I certainly admire the problem.

> Sealey, M. wrote:
> > 
> > DoomAttack was the fastest, most competant one I tried.
> > Ran like a dream on an 030/25, even better at 030/40
> > and should fly on an 040/25 like yours.
> > 
> > Mouse, decent sound support, everything
> 
> That was what I wanted. I'll go and try to download it - I 
> already have a registered PC WAD to use.

That's alright then. There is another one (ADoom?) that went
PPC I think.. that is JUST as good, it's down to your
preference in the end, but I've never had any problems with
it.

> PS Did you end up at WOA? 'cos I owe you a drink (and Ben for 
> that matter!) - I'll send it virtually.

No, I didn't go to WOA because me muvver wuz movin' 'ouse. Except
she didn't because it all fell through at the last minute. I was
on IRC though :)

Remind me why you owe me a drink again?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Oliver,

>> when i use the cachebrowser in IBrowse 2 it locks up IBrowse.
>> Snoopdos indicates that i may (do?) need NListtree.mcc.
>> but where to look??. Tried Aminet, Amiga Web Directory etc,
>> can anyone shed some light

> Yeah, I've got the same problem.  I have been unable to locate NListTree
> anywhere - it's not on any of the AFCDs either :(  Anybody know where
> it can be found?

You can get it from Gilles Masson's ftp site (it's part of the NListviews
package) ftp://iutsoph.unice.fr/pub/amiga/mui/

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in the next issue of Amiga Format? Go to
http://www.egroups.com/list/afb-announce

Hi Neil,

> Whereas just about everyone you know already has CD and tape?

Umm, I don't.

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             Help your fellow Amigan!

> Hello Matt,
> 
> On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:
> 
> > The icons are stored internally in the .info file, as in NOT
> > tooltypes, With a (slightly) better compression method I'm 
> > told. There is a new icon editor that will convert Newicons
> > to New Icons :) on the fly, and I think the installer will
> > convert them for you anyway, but if you DON'T convert them,
> > the new icon.library will load them anyway without any naff
> > patches. Also totally compatible with original system, will
> > work fine with DOpus etc. I'm told..
> 
> Your explanation is right, but not that it works under DOpus
> (at least not at the moment). Opus has to be updated to support
> the new icon.library.

Does it? I have loads of other icon utils that will load newicons
fine - because the newicons patch intercepts icon.library loading
code and converts newicons into real, 256 colour standard icons.

As I understand it (unless DOPus is doing something screwy - which
I have no doubts about :) DOpus should just read them as nice
colourful icons as normal, right?

Well that's what I was **told**.. anyway..

> Opus does continue to work and displays them in 4 colours (or
> so I think, maybe 8?). The "New" Icons will display with four (or
> eight :) colours under older OS versions, and in full colour 
> under OS3.5 (maybe that's what you've meant with compatible :) 

I guess you've got an OS3.5 beta then? OK, you win :)

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi fool,

> Hmmm, I think it would require more than one line to explain
> adequately (and that sig is going to get too big fairly quickly
> if anything else is added to it) - maybe a regular (weekly?)
> "MANAGER" post would be a better idea?

Ag! More writing? As if I didn't do enough...

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no-one can ever read my writing...

Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,

> Just been looking around some sites for the offline HTML browser that
> uses HTMLview.mcc

> Anyone know where to find it?

Search for it on our CD. The mcc goes out of date very quickly, but the
browser works with all versions of it so far...

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Hello Stephen

>> Erm. "sallow" IS the correct spelling. It means pale.
> Well that teached me ;-) hehehe

Me too. A yellowish skin colour?
 
Regards
-- 
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now cooking with A4000/233PPC

Hello Alex

 
> Prosze tylko przystryc.

Please something (about interpreting?)... Why didn't you ask kot perski?

Those names were pretty easy. What about that guy ,who ran hurdles in
fifties(?) Stanislaw Krzysz#?kowiak ?? I remember the commentators did
call him "twigs" (about right translation from Finnish) for short ;-)

Regards
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Hello Alex


> If you want a laugh, I can dig out some name of relatives. A prize
> goes to the first (non-Polish) person who can correctly pronounce
> them!

I've been in Szcecin, Bydgoszcz, Warszawa, Oswiecim etc. Sitting in a
Warszawa Cab in the middle of Warszawa, speed 80 mph. Boy, did it scare
me! And 0.5 l of beer did cost 1/3 penny - many, many years ago!

Regards
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proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC

Hi JorisW@dma.be,

> The reason I bring this up: How do the 3.5 icons work? Are they
> completely the same as NewIcons (images encoded in the ToolTypes), or
> did they rework the file's layout? I know the new icon.library
> *supports* the NewIcons way of doing things, but is there a *new* way?

The new way *is* compatible with NewIcons, but is a new standard. It will
display NewIcons, but NewIcons can't display the new icon format...

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astonishment.

Tom Underwood wrote:

>
> Now, Does anyone know if EDO simms will work with my 1230LC ?
>

I don't think so. As far as I know, the Apollo LC accelerators can take only
normal SIMMs, not EDO. You may mail Eyetech at sales@eyetech.co.uk and they
can answer this more sure.
Best regards,
--
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Aka: Caine
Porto Alegre-RS
Brazil
mailto:mateussd@cpovo.net

> > Hmmm... that's what I thought, but I would have thought whoever it is only
> > did it anonymously to avoid possible legal proceedings.
> How often do people get sued for telling the truth?
> I've no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but it's the
> act of a coward to hide behind an anonymous address. The fact that he is
> hiding implies he has something to hide from... such as a libel action?

Hmm... True, I suppose. Guess we'll just have to see if the site does actually
get updated like it says it will, then we can use the contact page. (/me
doubts that will happen)

Neil

Hi Ben
On 23-Aug-99, you wrote

>> Can we have a new AF logo at some stage? The current one looks very dated

> I've actually pushed for a new logo, but the powers that be at Fewtch
> decided that it's too recognisable to want to change it...

Fewtch?....

Cherio bye ta tar
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Hi Alex
On 22-Aug-99, you wrote

> If you want a laugh, I can dig out some name of relatives. A prize goes to
> the first (non-Polish) person who can correctly pronounce them!

Ok then, "Furmanski" :)

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Hi Danny
On 22-Aug-99, you wrote

>> Hmm, you can, there is a util on aminet which lets you save using any
>> datatype IIRC

> Will this allow other programs, eg PPaint, to save through Datatypes too?

nope, but what cant ppaint save as?

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Hi Gary
On 23-Aug-99, you wrote

> I'm with you there, I've bought loads of gear from Power and I've always
> found them more than happy to help, or even just chat about future plans
> etc. They were even happy to suggest alternative dealers when they didn't
> have exactly what I wanted (like there's so many to choose from ;)).

I have a coin with PowerC and Eyetech engraved on each side ;)

>>> I recently bought a Scanner off them on next day delivery,
>>> it took THREE days.! hmpffttt

Get parcel force to give you a refund, its their policy

> 'Next day' does rank up there with 'the cheques in the post' and 'don't
> worry, I'll pull out in time' doesn't it ?

And "one more minute"

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Hi Neil
On 23-Aug-99, you wrote

> There were no internal drives to put in cases. The external Zip
> pre-dates the internal versions by a couple of years. They were mainly
> intended for use with Macs, hence the SCSI interface, tacky blue case
> and monosyllabic documentation.

Rather a tacky blue case than more sodding cream

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Hi M.
On 23-Aug-99, you wrote

>>> I just got a call from Laura at QNX. Well
>>> blow me (fnarr fnarr) if they weren't
>>> interested in sending me lots of information,
>>> with a view to getting me to develop (and
>>> develop inane utilities at that!)
>> 
>>> I guess they're getting round to answering
>>> those forms after all!

> Matt O'Neill:

>> Well that pretty much guarentees the success for the NG then! ;)

> Grrrr! Can't you say ANYTHING without being such a twat?

Ahahahahah, Fart calling the shit smelly.....

> Ben - ban me if you have to. But he's provoking me.

If I were provoking you, I'd stand on my head going "Wooooooble wooooble
raaaaaaaaaaar, squeeeeeeeeeg!"

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Hi Neil
On 22-Aug-99, you wrote

> CD and tape are rather different. One is read only the other is
> read/write. Try buying records on the old read-only medium (vinyl) now.
> Tape will probably suffer the same fate as minidisc takes off.

minidisc will never replace CD, simply because the sound qulity isn't as
good. minidisc will only ever be a tape replacement

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Hi ppl
I have just dug my copy of XTR out again 80)  and reinstalled it.  I
was mad on this game at the end of last year , now I remember why!
  Does anybody know of any really good addon tracks Deathmatch or
single player (even both) and sound modules?  I used to have some
extra modules but I cannot remember whether that was on a patch that
made the game easier or not (I am trying not to use that patch this
time).
  Also last time I played the game, I tried a few addons from
amagazine cd, but they never seemed to work.  Has anybody else had
difficulty using addons?

Hope that all made sense
Peace
Zanthras

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<html>gaz-@globalnet.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25813

> Ne1 on the list interested in buying Quake? I don't play it anymore, any
> offers?
> <tsb>
>                                              JINKY              
>                               -----------------------------------
>                               Infinitiv A1300 ZII PIV + Conceirto
>                                     CTX 15" Trinitron SVGA     
>                               GI-Quatro - HD - CD-ROM - Atapi ZIP
>                                  Blizzard 1230IV + FPU + 32MB   
>                                         Pace 56k (V.90)   
>                                     Epson Stylus Photo 700

heh, did you ever play it in more than 2 fps on your 030? :-) i only ask because im still 
playing quake alot, and i wouldnt dream of selling, thats just me tho.. 

ps. epson stylus photo 700 is an amazing printer, i have 2 of the epson stylus range :)

Gaz..</html>

Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,

>> Would need a standardised way of audio data
>> aquisition. We need a REAL RTA SOLUTION!

> Where`s ARTAS gone?

Marc Albrecht got fed up with being pissed around by Amiga and put it on the
back burner...

>> OS4.0 anyone? Come on, I'm starting a campaign :)

> CU did an article on "OS 4.0" ages ago. Some of the stuff is actually
> still relevant. Good articles in CU. The mock screenshot was horrible
> though...

One of the first features I wrote when I came to AF was a next-gen Workbench
one - some of the stuff in the CU one was verrry similar...

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...late than never

Hi Tom,

> Erm... if you like. I can't imagine what possible lexical argument you
> could have for lookielike though.

But it's not lookielike - that would be silly. It's "lookielik*i*e"!

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Why doesn't onomatopoeia sound like what it means?

<html>
Hey all, on the subject of DOOM,  used to play it alot using the cd32 pad support by doing -joypad. 
But now that doesnt work for me, not even on ADoom68k the version I used to play! My cd32 is fine, so why 
isn't it working anymore? is there some sort of lib, i need a newer/older version of or something? 

I also got ADoomPPC running at a tremendous rate of like 70fps on my 603 and Bvision, to be able to play that nicely with my 
cd32 pad would be sheer class :)

any help greatly appreciated..

Gaz.. </html>

Hi Everybody,

   After rummaging around in my old disk collection, I found my BattleChe=
ss disk again! :)   Unfortunantly it was full of errors, therefor unplaya=
ble :(

   I don't suppose that anyone has a copy of Battle Chess that I can have=
 a disk image of (ADF, DMS etc.) please /please/, as it was quite an amus=
ing little chess game :)

See ya.
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Hi MARRISR@uk.ibm.com,

> Does anyone know of another UK distributor for MasterISO other than
> Blittersoft? I've tried ordring via them twice, and on both occasions was
> told "well have it in stock in a few days"; the last time I cancelled 'cos
> I couldn't be bothered to wait/mess about.... maybe it won't take as long
> this time (just over a week so far - I called them today to be told
> another few days) - or I'm just impatient!

IIRC you can order direct from the Asimware website...

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We want *your* reviews of your favourite
hardware and software. Get 'em in!

Anyone have any idea where I can get a legal copy of IFFParse.library v39? I
need it for WinUAE, and I can't get it from my Workbench disks or my Amiga
hard disk because I don't have an Amiga at the moment :)

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Hello,

Just a brief one: Will it be possible to modify an Commodore A3000T power-supply to power an A1200? 

My brother wants his A1200 to be towered up in an empty A3000T case we own.

Kind regards
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If Windows is heaven, I hope I'll go to hell.

Hi ca8ama@isis.sunderland.ac.uk,

> 8/9/99 Let's gauge the general feel amongst you lot! What will happen to
> the new Amiga once released and in the immediate future after its release?

Cancelled! Get the date right...

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try this: http://www.vcnet.com/bms/

Here are the results of the vote:

1. I dunno/don't care			2
2. Yes, I think it's a hoax			3
3. No, I think it's for real			9
4. Who's IWin?			9
5. Not sure yet			17

Hello Neil Bullock,
 your comments on [afb] Re: Buffered Serial Ports have got me thinking

>> I don't know but I've always found Active very helpful and straight.

>Are we talking about the Active with Chris Wiles in it? He was a tad vicious
>towards me a while back when I ommited Active from a poll I was doing on my
>website to find out people's favourite Amiga company. There was just ten
>companies you could choose from which I'd though of off the top of my head,
>and a box where you could enter a company of your own choosing! He sent me an
>email along the lines of:

>    "Why have you left Active out! We have been serving the community longer
>than
>    most of those in your list! You obviously don't know what you're talking
>about"

>blah, blah. (not those exact words, btw). I sent him an email saying I'd put
>Active in the list, which I did and got the reply saying "No! Sod you, don't
>bother!" (or words to that effect).

Well, I've dealt with Active on a couple of occasions. I bought my modem and
Netconnect package off them. They didn't have Netconnect 2 in stock so they sent
me Netconnect 1 with the promise to send version 2 as soon as possible. Within a
couple of week it arrived. They have always been very friendly over the phone
and on one occasion when I was having problems I received an E mail from Chris
10 minutes with the solution.

I always speak as I find and Active have always been OK with me.

___________________________________________________
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---- Original Message -----
From: <robert@inteloutside.demon.co.uk>
To: <afb@eGroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 12:02
Subject: [afb] Syndicate


> Does anyone know of a patch for syndicate that makes it run at a sane
> playable speed on an accelerated Amiga? (030/50).  I've searched Aminet
> to no avail.

I've got an 030/50 and it runs nearly the same speed as when I had an 020/14
;) How odd.

Neil

> RealMedia

There are sound players for this, not video yet.

> Microsoft Office

We've got an office suite from Digita, but it's not exactly as complete, and
no longer supported :(

> Java

Soon... :)

> DVD

Also soon... :)

> Those Windows media formats (?)

Yeah, '?', exactly

> Speech recognition (?)

I think there *are* specific programs which allow you to speak rather than use
traditional methods, but I don't know what they are (I think there's a version
of AmigaShell programmed by a 3rd party which recognises speech, but I'm not
sure)

Neil

---- Original Message -----
From: Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 14:28
Subject: [afb] Re: Who does *Nick* look like


> > Always felt a little bit fanziney to me (not necessarily in a
> > bad way). And I could never take it seriously after the Masterclass
> > bit (by that bloke with all the hair, Tony Dillon?) that said the
> > only way to remove the Trashcan from a disk was to reformat.
> Errm.. but that's true. Sure, you can just do a "Delete Trashcan#? FORCE"
> and get rid of it, but it confuses the OS something rotten.. which he
> rightly said.

Eeeh. Is this real? Seems a bit odd that people don't know that you can just
use Swazinfo to turn the icon of the trashcan into a drawer and delete the
drawer!

Neil

> > Are we talking about the Active with Chris Wiles in it? He was a tad
> > vicious towards me a while back when I ommited Active from a poll I
> Well, he has got somewhat of a temper. ;)

Me too :) Which was useful...

> > If Ashley Scott was still here, I know what he'd call Chris :/
> Ash is as bad...

Yeah, I know ;)

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 14:33
Subject: [afb] Re: Why Floppies Suck [was: Win the New Amiga (backpageAf128)]


> Most users WON'T use a floppy drive, but it won't be a floppy
> drive according to Jim C. and Rick LeF. - more an LS120 drive
> which has much more potential.

Ok, I've been reading and pondering before I throw myself into this one, and
originally, I was with the people who were FOR floppy drives. I'm not now,
after thinking about how much I use them myself. Fine, I occasionally play
disk games (but that's only when my hard disk isn't working or I don't have my
Amiga - like at the moment :) But the last time I saved anything on to disk
was at the end of April, when I had lots of files which I didn't want to send
to College by email because of the phone bill, so I put them on disk. Disk
drives are great for saving the odd file on to for transferring to another
machine, but due to the inefficiency of a lot of file formats today, it's not
too often you can fit much on a disk. If you want a floppy drive, they go out
and buy one, that's what I say :)

Neil - who's decided to post more often now I've got less to do.

Hello Andrew,

On 22-Aug-99, you wrote:
> Can i just say on behalf of everyone who have
> downloaded some top class games from you're site
> a big thankyou, you're one groovy baby.

You're all *very* welcome. I intend to get more games, such as those
from EA... what else would you all like to see on the site?

<sb>
Regards,

  Ian Court

<sb>Get *free* Digital Illusions games from:
<sb>http://www.ian.avfc.com

<sb>ICQ: 43842938

Hello Tom,

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:
>> For those who haven't noticed, the Pinball Illusions Prefs thingy I
>> mentioned earlier is now on the website... Christ, my 'phone bill
>> will be heeeeeouwge!
> 
> It might save some people a download to know that the Pinball prefs
> program was on the first Disk 4 you uploaded, so they may already have
> it. You just have to copy it into the Pinball3 directory. Assuming
> you've installed it to a hard drive, of course.

But it's not on the disk 4 that's there now - I have now uploaded
versions /without/ the cheat files, like I meant to do in the first
place. I made the mistake of DMSing my backups rather than my original
disks..! {blush}

<sb>
Regards,

  Ian Court

<sb>Get *free* Digital Illusions games from:
<sb>http://www.ian.avfc.com

<sb>ICQ: 43842938

What are you on about, Danny Shepherd?

> Hello All,

Hello, Danny, me old mate, me old mucker etc etc.
> 
> I remember someone wanted a util that would watch certain files and popup a
> reminder when they were modified.

Aye, 'twould be me.

> Well i've written one that does just that.

Genius! Thankyou. Thankyou. Thankyou. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Ta. Ta.
Ta.
 
> It's in an early stage at the moment and I have'nt even had a chance to
> test it on anything but my own patched, hacked but surprisingly stable,
> system.

I haven't tried it yet, but I'll be sure to let you know
</irish_accent>

> Bye,
> Danny Shepherd.

Ta ra,
Paul C, slightly less peeved now.

> Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at 2.898 Giga keys/hour

Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at a crap rate, but then
they keep getting deleted by Myzar/not sent to the server/not being
recognised even when they are sent :(
--
... Assassins DO IT from behind.

FOOTNOTE ADDED LATER : 19 byte file - I don't think so!

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Alex Furmanski.

> Hi Paul
> 
> > > <sb>Matthew O'Neill  -  MashMan
> >
> > Here, I've just been to the stats page and you are top of the list.
> > Calm down, Mr O'Neill, you've overtaken Ben on the ratings -
> > you're both about twice as much as the person in third.
> 
> Let me guess - me?

Can't remember now. Probably. Anyway, I'm now officialy retracting
your "AFB spammer of the year" status.
Which reminds me of something funny on the radio. [all people who
couldn't care less please disembark from this email now. Have a look
at the tagline though in case it's funny].
Apparently Italians have decided rat meat helps you lose weight.
Seeing as the Pope likes this idea, he has officially granted it "Fish
Status". WTF is he on?  Perfectly true, BTW.

> Alex Furmanski

Paul C, peeved
--
... I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards.
    I got a full house and four people died.

Some guy around here has been mumbling again. Apparently he goes
by the name of Alex Furmanski.

> Bonjour, Monsieur Cundle.

Uh, yeah. Actually, it's soir now.

> > Hooray! Can you help me argue with Neil Bothwick please Alex? We need
> > to defend our floppy equipment ;)
 
> As I say, I'm with the man Bothwick. 

Confessions abound: Alex and Neil both have a problem with floppy
hardware.

> Why don't you ask some people  with iMacs how they fared without
> one?

Because I don't know any? Besides, Macs don't even have eject buttons
for their floppy drives. That is ridiculous. (Yes I do know the
reasoning but it's not good enough).

> > Not really. Are they as bad as that sample you sent?
 
> Bad, what was bad about it?

It was just a 2 second unintelligible noise. As others agreed.

> You can get the A-Team theme from my site if you want to hear it,
> and I'll probably put Airwolf up there some time too.

No ta :)

> Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net

Paul C, peeved
--
... Pentium - Produces Erroneous Numbers Through Incorrect Understanding
    Of Mathematics

Some guy around here has been mumbling again=2E Apparently he goes
by the name of Alex Furmanski=2E

> I do read everything you write=2E  And I mean /everything/=2E

<quiver_worryingly>Oh dear</quiver>

> Aniela Rydowska
An-yella (like a cockney says "a yellow") Ree-dov-sk=E6

> Karolina Czacharska
Ka-r=E6-lean-=E6 Ch=E6-char-sk=E6

> Janek Kordaszewski
Yan-ek Kor-da-Schov-ski

> Kerzy Trochimczuk
Kurt-see Troch-imk-zooch

> Stanislaw Skonieczny
Stan-is-loud*1 Skon-yech-z-nee
*1 ignore the 'd' ie rhymes with sow (female pig)=2E

BTW, the =E6 is supposed to be an upside down e, like 'the'=2E

> Oh, and here's some actual Polish for you:
>=20
> Prosze tylko przystryc=2E
               ^^^^^^^^^
That is /not/ a real word!

> > Stop pretending now, before I send my list of what people on here
> > look like based on their names=2E
>=20
> Let me guess, mine says I'm a woman? (glances at fool sternly)

Nah, definitely male=2E Just like Julian Clary is definitely straight=2E

> Alex Furmanski

Paul C, peeved
--
=2E=2E=2E A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is
    shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain=2E -- Mark Twain

Ben Vost said, 

> Hi Neil,

>> Whereas just about everyone you know already has CD and tape?

> Umm, I don't.

How do you use AFDCs? :)

Anyway, you're a technofreak and hardly typical. Minidisc doesn't, yet,
have the market penetration of CD or tape. How many cars come with
minidisc players?


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - http://www.wire.net.uk   icq://16361788
Connected via Wirenet, The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
--
Assembler: (n.) a minor program of interest only to obsessed programmers.

What are you on about, Neil Bothwick?

> > A floppy drive won't bump up the price much at all=2E
>=20
> *Everything* bumps the price up, and several times by the time the
> distributors, shipper and dealers have added their markup=2E If it is so
> cheap, surely you won't object to paying the slight extra when you order
> your machine=2E

No, I won't=2E But if I pay the extra when I order, as you say, then it
is effectively coming with a built in floppy drive, right? (which is
what I wanted)=2E
=20
> The MCC isn't aimed at traditional computer users=2E Yes, the 90%
> figure was made up, but I'm pretty sure it's about right=2E

We'll have to agree to differ on percentage points, then=2E

> > Monitors don't vary that much
=20
> Size , resolution, scan rates and various features=2E Whereas printers
> vary on size, resolution etc=2E

When someone buys a computer (I'm talking about 'normal' PCs here)
they don't usually go into all that detail for a monitor=2E They buy one
that looks a nice size for what they want with pretty controls and
that's about it=2E That's one of the few advantages PC owners have -
they don't really worry about scan rates etc - if the plug fits, it'll
probably work=2E Just choose VGA or SVGA=2E

> >> CD and tape are rather different=2E One is read only the other is
> >> read/write=2E
=20
> > That's why I said minidiscs as well=2E

> >> Try buying records on the old read-only medium (vinyl) now=2E
>=20
> > Not that hard around here!
>=20
> For current releases?

Yep! (well, sort of anyway)=2E DJ's are always using vinyl - my brother
has a ridiculously huge collection of new stuff for his decks=2E

> Whereas just about everyone you know already has CD and tape?

Yes=2E Everyone still has tapes=2E (nearly) every hifi comes with a tape
deck (or 2)=2E Tapes aren't going to die as soon as most people have
minidisc recorders=2E And floppies aren't going to die because this new
machine has a zip drive/email/whatever=2E
Besides - we're talking about one machine here=2E The floppy won't die
out until nearly all machines turn this way=2E There are still a hell of
a lot of PCs out there with floppy drives in use but no 'modern'
equivalents=2E

> Which is why you can still buy them=2E But the general consumer audio
> systems sold in Dixons et al rarely have turntables these days=2E

Depends what range you're looking in=2E I bought a hifi for =A3150 and
specifically /wanted/ a turntable for my old vinyls=2E I had plenty of
choice (not Dixons, but Currys [same I know], Comet etc)

> They are extinct technology as far as that market is concerned=2E

Nah=2E Depends who you are=2E

> The analogy is slightly flawed anyway, since audio material has a
> longer useful life than computer programs=2E I still listen to music
> from the 70s

Same here, and I wasn't even born until 1980!

> but I don't play ZX81 games anymore=2E

I play my Amstrad CPC (1985) games on a regular basis=2E There is a
thread here about good old classic games=2E They aren't defunct just
because they are less popular - you still need them=2E If my A1200 could
emulate a CPC properly I'd love to put the original disks/tapes in and
play=2E If the A1200 didn't have a floppy drive - aaarggh!
Similarly, if people could play their old 1 disk Amiga games on a next
gen machine I'm sure many would=2E They couldn't with no floppy drive=2E

> > Anyway, were discussing equipment being superceded
> > here=2E The MCC doesn't have any alternative to the floppy
=20
> Floppy, Zip, Orb, anything else with a USB interface=2E The MCC should
> be able to handle them all=2E=20

I worded it a bit wrong - "the MCC doesn't have any alternative to the
floppy"=2E=2E=2E"which is readily available on the majority of machines"=2E
How many people in schools/offices have access to Zip drives, Orb
things (never even heard of them)?
There's no point in being revolutionary if it won't work with anything
else=2E

> Leave it to the user's choice, that's the Amiga way=2E

That's just being an Amiga sentimentalist - "the Amiga way" ain't
always "the right way" if you're honest=2E
=20
> Kneel

Paul C, peeved
--
=2E=2E=2E Q=2E Why did the bass player get mad at the timpanist?
    A=2E The timpanist turned a peg and wouldn't tell him which one=2E

What are you on about, Alex Furmanski?

> > A floppy drive won't bump up the price much at all. And I refuse to
> > believe that 90% figure you made up. I reckon 99.9% of users will want
> > a floppy /sometime/,

> I'm with Neil on this one.  Maybe 99.9% of user will want a floppy /once/,
> use it, think it's slow, break a disk and then use it as a frisbee.  They'll
> find how much fun that is and continue to buy floppy disks just to use as
> frisbees, thus lulling people into thinking floppy disk is a popular medium
> and we'll be stuck with them forever.

:) Can't argue with that, can I.
So how do we explain the popularity of frisbees? Are they really being
used as plates?

> Alex Furmanski

Paul C, peeved
--
... If most accidents occur within five miles of home, why doesn't everyone
    move ten miles away?

MSGTO: Matthew O'Neill
SUBJECT: [afb] Re: Win the New Amiga (backpage Af128)

> Hi Paul

Oh, it's you again. BTW, you've stolen Alex Furmanski
> On 22-Aug-99, you wrote
> 
> > Just because most people have CD players now and minidiscs, have
> > they stopped selling music on tape?
> 
> More to the point why the heck is it cheaper!!???
> 
> Cherio bye ta tar
> -- 
> <sb>HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
> <sb>Matthew O'Neill  -  MashMan
> 
> Inknition - The metal clicker at the top of ball point pens.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: Please quote sensibly and read all MANAGER mails
> 
> 
> 

Fewtch ~= Future (ie: Future Publishing)

:-)



Darin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew O'Neill [mailto:mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: August 23, 1999 10:23 AM
To: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] Re: afb-announce


Hi Ben
On 23-Aug-99, you wrote

>> Can we have a new AF logo at some stage? The current one looks very dated

> I've actually pushed for a new logo, but the powers that be at Fewtch
> decided that it's too recognisable to want to change it...

Fewtch?....

Cherio bye ta tar
-- 
<sb>HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
<sb>Matthew O'Neill  -  MashMan

Parrot:  Official Bird of the Tagline echo.



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Hi MARRISR@uk.ibm.com

On 22-Aug-99, you wrote:

> Old technology... nah.  Embrace the new flesh!
> Jesus, I shouldn't keep watching Videodrome....

My fave thing to do on holidays is to watch it over and over again,
alternating with the Tetsuo movies, and Apocalypse Now...

I find that if I do it long enough and take enough Pro-Plus, I can reach a new
state of Nirvana - only with violence and horror, instead of that namby-pamby
sanity and peace angle...!

Wonderful... ;-)

Regards,

Frost.
-- 
"Bother," said Frost, as they dropped the reality bomb...

Hi Matt,

On 24-Aug-99 you wrote:

>> If the floppy drive is an external option then people who want it can
>> have it.

> Cue iMac style NO FLOPPY rantings from Linux and Amiga and most
> just-come-from-a-PC users. It's not a technical aspect, it's more
> appeasing the masses.

I'm inclined to agree but, those iMac-no-floppy rants seemed to
die down very quickly and I've heard nothing of them lately.

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>MartinJTaylor mailto:baseheadz@bigfoot.com
<tsb>--- http://www.3amigas.freeserve.co.uk ---
<tsb>Well, this is certainly interesting innit!
-- 

Hi gazy@globalnet.co.uk,

On 24-Aug-99 you wrote:

[snip]

>> If you do, then you could do worse than visit
>> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/screen/3695

[snip]

> Im glad to see that the Amiga public were not so willing to except this
> pack
> of lies.. I know exactly who sent this and I know why.

So uhm, why?

> The are a constant threat to my reputation, and I feel they have
> already done
> some damage.

No offence Gaz, but what reputation?

> I can disprove *every* single allegation I have seen o their site, and
> I will do if
> I have to.

I think you're going to have to.

> but im quite sure the amiga public wont jump to any
> ridiculous conclusions
> without questioning me first.

Which is why I'm replying.

> Right, sorry about that folks but i thought it was about time i cleared
> my name :-)..

You haven't yet.

[snip]

> PeeCee.. But Im only learning Java because a) its part of my course at
> Uni and b) when
> it comes out on the Amiga i'll have a head start on the rest of you..
> haahaa :-))..
> watch out for a few alpha software Java releases as soon as daytona
> (amiga's java
> virtual machine) comes out...

IIRC, there's already a Java compiler available - try
http://www.ramjam.u-net.co.uk

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>MartinJTaylor mailto:baseheadz@bigfoot.com
<tsb>--- http://www.3amigas.freeserve.co.uk ---
<tsb>Well, this is certainly interesting innit!
-- 

On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 06:21:47PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> nope, but what cant ppaint save as?

Any number of formats that don't exist yet?

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 11:14:32AM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> minidisc will never replace CD, simply because the sound qulity isn't as
> good. minidisc will only ever be a tape replacement

Isn't that what Neil said?

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

HTML?

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Hi Ben,

On 24-Aug-99 you wrote:

>> Hmmm, I think it would require more than one line to explain
>> adequately (and that sig is going to get too big fairly quickly
>> if anything else is added to it) - maybe a regular (weekly?)
>> "MANAGER" post would be a better idea?

> Ag! More writing? As if I didn't do enough...

Well, you'd only have to write it once - and maybe a little ARexx to
automatically post it once a week.

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>MartinJTaylor mailto:baseheadz@bigfoot.com
<tsb>--- http://www.3amigas.freeserve.co.uk ---
<tsb>Well, this is certainly interesting innit!
-- 

Hi,

If anyone is using Petri Nordlund's Executive with DiskSafe, here's a
little tip.

Set the scheduler to NOSCHEDULE for the DiskSafe task and set the
priority for that to 4. If you have it scheduled, because it never
does anything it's priority drops right down to the bottom when
sheduled. Under certain circumstances it becomes impossible to reboot
the computer because DiskSafe is blocking the process whilst data is
written to disk, but DiskSafe can't get the processor time to finish
it's job and let the reboot go ahead. It usually happens when a
processor intensive task has hung but is still hogging the cycles.

It's been confusing me for weeks, that has.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

Hi LUTFU,

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:

>> AFB: Please quote sensibly and read all MANAGER mails lan gonderme
>> artk amcik beyinli gotveren pezevenk ananin amina dolumu
>> fiskirtayim,sonra onu sana yalatayim yarrak osman

Does that means I'm cursed?
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

On 24-Aug-99, gazy@globalnet.co.uk wrote:

> Im glad to see that the Amiga public were not so willing to except
> this pack
> of lies.. I know exactly who sent this and I know why. The same
> people have
> phoned me up and threatened to beat me up, in alot harsher language
> I might add.

If you have proof of this you should go to the police. Personal
threats are a serious matter and can be prosecuted. Any prospective
libel case from these allegations, on the other hand, would never
reach court.

For various reasons that are outlined below, however, I find myself
doubting that any such `phone call ever took place.

> too.. and hardcoding results into tCPU? heh what a joke.. I'll admit
> it is no
> revolutionary piece of software, but it does actually do tests
> reliant on CPU speed and

I can see how people could be mistaken for believing the results to be
hard coded. I ran this program (the version that was on AFCD26) twice,
once with nothing running, once with ADoom running, YAM doing a search
(thorugh approximately 7 000 emails) and emacs sorting the jargon file
(about 4 MB of text) into alphabetical order. Both tests returned the
same result, despite Petri Nordlund's TOP command reporting that the
CPU power available to tCPU had dropped from 99.80% to 0.12%.

By all means explain how the tests work, but AFAICS tCPU is at best
broken. The results were way out anyway, it reported 17.5 "murfins"
for each test and the average, roughly 4-5 times faster than an 060 by
your reckoning. It's an 030 running at 40 MHz, almost certainly
overclocked. Hardly the Cray Supercomputer described by your program.

Now, this does suggest to me that results are either hard coded or
that your testing method is poor in the extreme. People with all sorts
of set ups also report 17.5 "murfins" including, importantly, various
clock speeds of 030.

In fact, not one of the people who replied about this program (I'm
referring to the emails in the tCPU directory on AFCD26) got the
expected results. One also complained about ShowConfig2 which cannot
recognise an 060 or CGFX, giving an incorrect figure for screen mode
(on my system a PAL High Res Laced  screen (167940 decimal or $29004)
is reported as -16380) and also reporting an incorrect amount of
memory.

Hmm... I'll let people draw their own conclusions.

Then there's Theme040. A script that turns the 040 caches on using the
Commodore CPU program. Why? IIRC SetPatch turns everything on except
the Data Burst mode which causes problems with some software. You
haven't exactly stolen anything there, but it's billed as a patch. And
it isn't.

Same goes for the Gloom 3 patch. I'll reproduce it here in full:

        ;
        ; Gloom 3 "Ultimate Gloom" Startup Script
        ;
        ; By Gareth "Gaz" Murfin (gazy@globalnet.co.uk)
        ;
        CD Ultimate_Gloom:Gloom_3/
        Ultimate_Gloom:Gloom_3/Gloom2

Also, in the interests of research, I disassembled your "Poo" command
and the Commodore Version command 40.1:

They are exactly the same command hex edited to say POO instead of
VER and your name instead of the original version and date command.
There is no credit given to Commodore anywhere in the documentation.
If anyone wants to see the source code for comparison I'd be happy to
mail it to them. The two files pack very small, since they are so
very, /very/ similar.

Whilst none of this is reason to insult or threaten you, I can see
where people might get the idea that you are a plagiarist and have
difficulty believing anything you say. I'm sure you begin to see why
I have difficulty believing that you were threatened on the telephone.

I can't really comment on the other allegations because I'm not so
bothered about all this that I'm going to go hunting for the programs
you are accused of plagiarising. However, based on the programs I *have*
looked at, a mere 20 minutes research, it doesn't put you in a
particularly flattering light, I'm afraid.

> i'm not going to stoop to their childhood level and reveal who they
> are.. altho I could
> anytime i want. I have their address, phone number and atleast 2
> URLS where they admit
> to being nasty to me over the phone and insulting me.. thats 2
> 'hate' sites and a
> discussion group.. seems like an unhealthy obsession for teenage
> boys doesn't it?..

Give the URLs by all means. Give the lot if you like, if you can prove
/your/ allegations try and do so. If nothing else it will give these
people a chance to either refute them or come clean. I'd like to know
how you got telephone numbers and addresses though, it smacks of
something more going on than either of you have spoken of. Revealing
URLs can't do any harm, they're there to be looked at or they wouldn't
have been written.

I will admit here that I was, unknowingly, on a mailing list dedicated
to you. I was invited to join via an anonymous email, and had no way
of knowing what the list was about as the name was simply "gmh8s". Not
particularly clear what it was all about, was it? The usual
information just mentioned being against software theft, so I replied.
In the 2 weeks or so I was subscribed I received only 2 emails, both
anonymous, both last night. One mentioned that you had attempted to
join the list and the other said the group manager had declined to
approve you. I suspect it was all a bit of fun and there was no real
slander campaign ever undertaken by these people. They certainly
weren't using that list to coordinate their efforts whilst I was
subscribed. In an effort to disassociate myself from any incidents in
which you were personally threatened I unsubscribed from this list
early today.

Speaking for myself, whilst I no longer use any of your software I
have used dwarfx and I bought Gloom3 and Zombie Massacre. None of
these products remains on my hard drive because I could see no use for
dwarfx and, IMHO, the Gloom sequels are inferior to the original and
the other Doom clones I have. This does NOT mean I bear you any
personal malice and I would certainly never threaten anyone with a
beating because I believed they had stolen software, or because I
disliked the contents of a disk with their name on it.

I have said many times on this list that the Amiga is just a computer
and that there is more to life. I'm not the sort of person who would
cause physical harm over a computer.

I would also like to add that I have had nothing to do with any of
these web sites until yesterday, when I read one of them. I am not the
anonymous poster who started this thread.

It is /entirely/ possible that person or persons not subscribed to
that list have been bothering you, but I'm near certain that list was
never used to discuss anything, never mind you. Based on the small
amount of evidence I have gathered I cannot understand why this person
didn't give their name; there does appear to be evidence to support at
least some of their claims.
-- 
Tom Waddington, Tainted Waters Productions
email   : mrflay@castlegormenghast.freeserve.co.uk
ICQ UIN : 43069792

Hello All,

On 24-Aug-99, roger buckley wrote:

> Hello Gaz-JD/FX-s^D
> 
> On 23-Aug-99, you wrote:
> 
>> Hi Neil
>> On the 23-Aug-99 you said something about [afb] Re: Apollo Question so
>> now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :)
>> 
>>>> /me builds a 3 foot high tower using 32meg SIMM's that were just
>>>> laying about...
>>> 
> I'm interested as well. Would one be OK in my Viper Mk5, 72 pin SIMM.
> More details please.

I'll take two if you still have any left :) (I am willing to pay a certain
amount for them, of course)

Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at 2.898 Giga keys/hour

Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
-- Cicero

Just a test it's just that none of my mails seem to be reaching any of
the afb mailing lists.

Carl

Howdy Sealey,

On 24-Aug-99, Sealey, M. wrote:

SM>> I'm still looking for the horror-novel-to-keep-you-awake-at-night,
SM>> and TBH I wouldn't even call Stephen King a horror writer (perhaps
SM>> supernatural fiction, if it has to have a label). I'd definitely say

SM> Read 'The Rats' by James Herbert, that scared me shitless for weeks.

I read that, and every other Herbert book :)) He's one of the better horror
writers.. I enjoyed the third Rats installment (What was it called now??
The one after WW3)

SM> Actually it's more funny than scary, but in a nasty grimace-worthy
SM> gory kind of way..

Herbert does get into great detail.. I'd have thought a Rats type film would
have been done by now ?!?

Regards

Mark
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Vincenzo Morra said, 

> does anybody know if Candy Factory Pro is compatible with WarpOS?

No, although the author did mention a possible WarpUP port.

> If not, does it work under PPCLIB emulation?

Not currently.


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Hello all  

I am having trouble downloading .wavs with both Voyager and AmFTP.  I 
accidentally delated the host name in AmFTP when trying to download from Aminet 
so the connection was closed.  Voyager tries but the computer (A1200T) hangs 
when trying to unpack .lha files.  I was trying to download a program called 
TAPAVI in Voyager but the computer locked up on me.  Does anyone know if I can 
get this program anywhere else?  If not, can anyone help an idiot out of a spot?  

C  U, Lazyhippie.

> Confessions abound: Alex and Neil both have a problem with floppy
> hardware.

Huum, It's "Flopware" or "Hardy" then? heh.

What I wan't to know is where the bloddy hel do they expect a zip OR flop=
py to fit? I can see 2 horizontal slots in the case, a thin 1 (prolly for=
 the DVD yes?) (but where is the eject button?) and a thicker 1 (at the b=
ottom). So presumably then, under here is either 1 or 2 3.5" drive bays. =
If that is the case, then you will have a nice black/grey case with a bri=
ght square of cream plastic in it. I wonder if they will make new facias =
which are designed to accept the ZIp disk and a buttom extender..........=
=2E

Ben: at the WOA there were some schematics on the wall just behind the ca=
binet wern't there? Are these plans available digitally? If so can you po=
st them to afb or the CD. I suppose there are =A9 problems though, yes? =

According to Tom, there's something good going on and it's
something to do with [afb] Re: Why Floppies Suck [was: Win the New Amiga (b=
ackpage Af128)]=2E

> On 23-Aug-99, Paul wrote:

> > A floppy drive won't bump up the price much at all=2E And I refuse to
> > believe that 90% figure you made up=2E I reckon 99=2E9% of users will
> > want a floppy /sometime/,

> So you make up another figure?

Yeah, I didn't say you shouldn't make up figures=2E Just that 90% is a
bad estimate (IMO)=2E

> It's a dead medium anyway; there's not much you can do
> with 1=2E44 MB of storage=2E

Not much, maybe, but still enough=2E Our office PCs buggered up with a
new software installation today (Microsoft, of course) and the IT
bloke spent ages going round getting files from various computers and
transferring=2E Floppies were essential=2E

> Before you say you haven't got and don't want a Zip drive, they only
> cost =A3150 (or less if you shop around) for a 250 MB drive=2E

Don't get on the 'only costs' bus=2E Apart from me not wanting to spend
=A3150 on a hyped floppy drive, there are a hell of a lot of people who
/can't/ spend it=2E It will take them long enough to get the basic
machine=2E Plus
* Zip disks cost more each=2E You'll need several to leave in various
places=2E
* You've got to be a lot more careful transporting Zips=2E As Alex said,
you can use floppies like frisbees, they're that cheap and common=2E

> There'll be a USB version of the 250 out RSN that you'll be able to
> plug into any machine you want, so it doesn't /matter/ if your
> mates/business/school/whoever doesn't have one=2E
>
Great, so if I have a letter I want to give to someone on disk, I have
to carry a Zip drive around, do I? So much more convenient than a
floppy disk=2E=2E=2E

> =A3150 is peanuts for the convenience it offers=2E

See above=2E

> Tom Waddlington

Paul C,
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According to fool, there's something good going on and it's
something to do with [afb] Re: I really hate... (was web pages :( ).

> >> Our kid? You're 17 and partly Polish. Stop pretending now, before I
> >> send my list of what people on here look like based on their names.
 
> Hmm, I'd quite like to see that.

Due to lack of smiley, I assume you're serious. In which case - get
real! It's only an imaginary list - I have an exact perception of most
people here.

> Martini and lemonade.

Paul C, telling a thousand lies
--
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I just read a /very/ interesting mail where you said about [afb] Re: Why Fl=
oppies Suck [was: Win the New Amiga (backpage Af128)]:

> > So you make up another figure? Time for a poll, methinks=2E
=20
> And a standard floppy drive only costs =A310 to buy - think of
> how much that is in EXTREME wholesale=2E =A31? 50p? Why do you
> think they are so standard?

Go Matt, go Matt, go Matt, go (again)=2E!

> > If the floppy drive is an external option then people who want it
> > can have it=2E
>=20
> Cue iMac style NO FLOPPY rantings from Linux and Amiga and most
> just-come-from-a-PC users=2E It's not a technical aspect, it's more
> appeasing the masses=2E

Go Matt, go Matt, go Matt, go (again again)=2E!

> > =A3150 is peanuts for the convenience it offers=2E
=20
> So include a =A32=2E50 floppy drive (that's the most it would cost
> Amiga to install it) and buy a USB Zip250=2E Sheesh!

Go Matt, go Matt, go Matt, go (again again again)=2E!

Hoorah! I have the techincal genius university bloke on my side ( I
think)=2E Now you can come up with some good arguments for me Matt, I
can't really be arsed at the mo=2E

> Neko

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Matthew Garrett reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: Win the New Amiga (backpage Af128), but there's more to it than that.

> > So you use floppies.
> 
> Yes, because (as you snipped) the PC architecture is brain-dead enough not
> to support BootP and TFTP without mucking around with boot ROMs. This is a
> function of bad design rather than suggesting that floppies are useful. If
> it was a Sun, an Alpha, an SGI, an HP or (for crying out loud) a Mac, I
> wouldn't need floppies. Ever. I'm assuming that the new Amiga technology
> will be good enough to deal with this.

But what if you want to transfer to PC's with their brain-dead
architecture? A floppy, maybe?

> > And what if you want to take that information somewhere else - on
> > disk?
 
> Why would I want to? I'd send it over the network, or obtain it
> again somewhere else.

But you can't always. Imagine you get some wonderful info and want to
transfer it to a PC - whadda ya gonna do if it's not networked  and
doesn't have the facility to 'obtain it again'?

> Do you want a floppy drive for your video recorder, CD player or
> teletext decoder?

Wha??? There is no way you can transfer info from a video/CD/teletext
to a floppy in a useful way (except a screen grab I suppose). You
/can/ get decent stuff onto a floppy from the MCC.

> Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Paul C,
--
... Electrical Engineers DO IT with less resistance.

Hello roger

 =

>> On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 01:15:37AM +0100, roger buckley wrote:
>> =

>> Putty: It was originally called Silly Putty but the name was changed t=
o
>> Putty at the last moment, probably due to a licensing dispute or
>> something.
>> =

> This one is actually Silly Putty originally from Gremlin but in this ca=
se
> a boxed, bideget game from GBH. I haven't got this one going from HD as=

> yet but Super Putty, a CD=B3=B2 game won't work on mine but goes perfec=
t on
> the wife's 1200, spit.

Mine is called Silly Putty too, It came with a 600 I bought last week. It=

plays fine on that but not at all on my 1200. I have one of the Escom
jobbies and the floppy light just stays on while the machine does nothing=

:( I can't find a hard disk installer for it anywhere.

CHeers

Tom=

Hello Matthew


> If I were provoking you, I'd stand on my head going "Wooooooble wooooble
> raaaaaaaaaaar, squeeeeeeeeeg!"

You should try AFB-OT :)

Tom

Matthew O'Neill said, 

> Hi Neil

>> CD and tape are rather different. One is read only the other is
>> read/write. Try buying records on the old read-only medium (vinyl) now.
>> Tape will probably suffer the same fate as minidisc takes off.

> minidisc will never replace CD, simply because the sound qulity isn't as
> good. minidisc will only ever be a tape replacement

Doh! Where did I say that?

I said CD replaced vinyl, minidisc will replace tape.


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Paul Cundle said, 

> What are you on about, Neil Bothwick?

>> *Everything* bumps the price up, and several times by the time the
>> distributors, shipper and dealers have added their markup. If it is so
>> cheap, surely you won't object to paying the slight extra when you order
>> your machine.

> No, I won't. But if I pay the extra when I order, as you say, then it
> is effectively coming with a built in floppy drive, right? (which is
> what I wanted).

Which is *exactly* what I've been saying all alomg, that it should be
an option, not a standard fitment. I certainly wouldn't was a floppy
drive taking up the space that could be occupied by a far more useful
LS120 drive.

>> The MCC isn't aimed at traditional computer users. Yes, the 90%
>> figure was made up, but I'm pretty sure it's about right.

> We'll have to agree to differ on percentage points, then.

It's an appliance, not a computer. That's how it will be marketed. Why
do you think it looks more like a VCR than a computer?

> When someone buys a computer (I'm talking about 'normal' PCs here)

A completely different scenario to the MCC buyer.

> they don't usually go into all that detail for a monitor. They buy one
> that looks a nice size for what they want with pretty controls and
> that's about it.

Which is a bad mistake. The monitor is a most important choice for a
machine that's used often.

>> Whereas just about everyone you know already has CD and tape?

> Yes. Everyone still has tapes. (nearly) every hifi comes with a tape
> deck (or 2). Tapes aren't going to die as soon as most people have
> minidisc recorders.

See what I said later about the longer life of audio data.

> Besides - we're talking about one machine here. The floppy won't die
> out until nearly all machines turn this way. There are still a hell of
> a lot of PCs out there with floppy drives in use but no 'modern'
> equivalents.

Modern PCs can come with LS120 drives instead of floppies.

> I play my Amstrad CPC (1985) games on a regular basis. There is a
> thread here about good old classic games. They aren't defunct just
> because they are less popular - you still need them. If my A1200 could
> emulate a CPC properly I'd love to put the original disks/tapes in and
> play. If the A1200 didn't have a floppy drive - aaarggh!
> Similarly, if people could play their old 1 disk Amiga games on a next
> gen machine I'm sure many would. They couldn't with no floppy drive.

But the target market won't have old Amiga games because they won't have
old Amigas. You're still thinking that people here are the typical
purchaser of the MCC, we aren't!

>> > Anyway, were discussing equipment being superceded
>> > here. The MCC doesn't have any alternative to the floppy
>  
>> Floppy, Zip, Orb, anything else with a USB interface. The MCC should
>> be able to handle them all. 

> I worded it a bit wrong - "the MCC doesn't have any alternative to the
> floppy"..."which is readily available on the majority of machines".

Floppy, Zip, LS120.

> How many people in schools/offices have access to Zip drives, Orb
> things (never even heard of them)?

Why do you think I mentioned floppy first. No one is taking away your
choice to have one, why take away others' choice to not have one. It's a
waste of space and money for many people.

>> Leave it to the user's choice, that's the Amiga way.

> That's just being an Amiga sentimentalist - "the Amiga way" ain't
> always "the right way" if you're honest.

No it's not, it's one of the strengths of the Amiga ethos, choice. I'd
like to be able to choose not to buy a pice of outdated technology if I
have no use for it.

Saying that the Amiga way isn't always right isn't the same as saying
the Amiga way is always wrong. You can't decry anything based on
previous methods just because some things didn't work out as intended...
Unless you really feel freedom of choice was a bad decision.


Neil
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Matthew O'Neill said, 

> Hi Neil

>> There were no internal drives to put in cases. The external Zip
>> pre-dates the internal versions by a couple of years. They were mainly
>> intended for use with Macs, hence the SCSI interface, tacky blue case
>> and monosyllabic documentation.

> Rather a tacky blue case than more sodding cream

It's not the colour that's tacky (it's actually quite a nice shade of
blue).


Neil
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bert Volders <bert@volders.demon.nl>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 22:19
Subject: [afb] Re: Iffparse.library


> Try any AF-CD, should be on there (on 31 it is...)

Ah. So it is, thanks :)

> >I need it for WinUAE, and I can't get it from my Workbench >disks or my
Amiga
> > hard disk because I don't have an Amiga at the moment :)
> No Amiga and you still can smile????

I get it back tomorrow, so I'm ok :)

Neil

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:14:01 +0200, Tudor Davies said:

> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> > 
> > They didn't produce two drives, they only produced the external SCSI
> > one for a couple of years. The SCSI is still only available as external
> > AFAIK. The IDE internal was a later addition to the range.
> 
> Although I'm sure I saw someones site selling them (OEM packs) of internal
> SCSI in the UK, but I'm damned if I can remember who it was.

I got my internal SCSI ZIP drive (ZIP100 Insider) from Gasteiner
almost a year ago. Fits in either a 3" bay or 5" with the
supplied face plate. I can't remember exactly how much, I think around
100 inc p+p. Don't know if they still got any though.

Chris

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Hi Everybody,


>> I need it for WinUAE, and I can't get it from my Workbench >disks or m=
y Amiga
>> hard disk because I don't have an Amiga at the moment :)

   You can go to http://www.classicgaming/aiab/ and download a fully setu=
p WinUAE setup :)

See ya.
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On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:43:09 +0100, Matthew Garrett wibbled...

> And given the way they continuously
> insulted the most cretinous of their readers 
> hardly fits in with being "All things to all laddish idiots".

I think a lot of the bad feeling towards the magazine was created by the
software houses, who, not understanding that 50% is an average mark,
stopped supplying them with games to review.

I'm not sure if that made sense. I've got a headache you see. 

> Are you sure you're not thinking of The One (fixated with the word "Arse")

And it was rubbish. 

> or Amiga Action (Just plain dire, to the extent that the last few issues
> mainly consisted of the writers complaining about the publishers and how
> dire the magazine was)?

I actually brought the final issue. I was stuck in some godawful northern
town, desperate for something to read, and that was all that was in the
shop.

had some rubbish beat-em-up on the front cover, which loaded, but was
'accidentally' formatted five minutes later.

> I'd still see AP as being one of the most witty,
> clever and generally well-written publications ever.

If only another magazine would start up that was like AP in the same way
that AP was like Game Zone which was like Your Sinclair which was like...

:)

> (Official honourary mighty being. 

Stop showing off. :)
Have you be sent your AP stuff yet?

> Who will be in Bath on Saturday. To mourn AP's death. Sob.)

And was I right about the ticket cost in #creatures?

Oh, and seeing as you're the only Mighty Being alive (honorarily), it's
actually your job to start up the new Amiga Power-alike magazine.

Ho-ho.

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On 24-Aug-99 20:03:49, You said about;
 
>Hi All,
>    Is there anyone on this list that is using the Demon/AmiTCP software
>from AFCD 10 that can help me? What I would like to do, is change the
>configuratipn so that the software doesnt automatically collect my mail
>when it connects because I prefer to use YAM as my mailer as the default
>mail program is a bit pants :(. At the moment I am having to import the
>mail file into YAM after I've disconnected.
>Any help would be much appreciated. 

OK, my memory's a bit rusty, but in yer AmiTCP:db/ directory, there's a
file called "inetd.conf". Comment out the line in that file starting
with "smtp" with a hash (#). That then should stop mail being downloaded
automatically.

HTH

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----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Berry <mlist@cberry.prestel.co.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 22:23
Subject: [afb] test, sorry :)


> Just a test it's just that none of my mails seem to be reaching any of
> the afb mailing lists.
> Carl

Not havving a go at you, but has anyone noticed it's just the test postings
that ever get here when people are having problems posting? :) (Queue
conspiracy theories :)

Neil

The burning question we are all interested in!
Are beardy blokes like Ben sexy or is clean
shaven the funky thing?


----

Please select one of the following:

   o Yes. Ben should shave pretty damn soon!
   o No. Ben should keep his beard.
   o That's a beard?
   o I like Ben so much, I just want to get on the next train to Bath and buy a pint for everyone who has a beard.
   o The state of a man's chin is his own private buisness!
   o Who is Ben anyway?
   o Soory. I just walked past this terminal and found that someone had left thier browser logged in.
   o Bill is wasting valuable resources by posting frivious polls like this one. His afb subscription must be roked immeditately!


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=935534663018

Thank you!

Hi Everybody,

> I also got ADoomPPC running at a tremendous rate of like 70fps on my 60=
3 and Bvision, to be able to play that nicely with my =

> cd32 pad would be sheer class :)
 =

   How is that possible, 70fps in doom? It's framerate is hardcoded max 3=
5fps. which is half as much as 70fps, hmmm, sounds like the FPS calculati=
ng routine uses the vbl or sommin silly?

> any help greatly appreciated..

   Get MacJoy and use it to remap CD32 pad buttons to keys.
 =

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Hello Matthew

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:

> The MCC is aimed at a different market than the people who need to use
> floppies. If you want to use floppies, buy something that's designed as a
> computer rather than an entertainment device.

Errrrrr.... Entertainment device? The MCC is a COMPUTER, for entertaining,
but also for word processing, gfx etc. etc. Its the computer front end for
AmigaOE basically.


===================================
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===================================

Real meanings #17:
WWW: World Wide Waste

Hello Tudor

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:

> Down my way - Bristol/North Somerset - we say lookielikie -
> look-ee-like-ee - for some bizarre reason. We all know that it is
> lookalike but we have regionalised the word and made it more fun (did I
> say that?) :)
> 
> So look*A*like or look*ie*lik*ie I know what it means, so I don't care :)

The term "lookielikie" was coined by French and Saunders on one of their
shows many years ago.


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===================================

Real meanings #14:
PERL: Pleases Easily Real Lamers

Hi Ben,
On 24-Aug-99, Ben Vost wrote:

> Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,

>> Just been looking around some sites for the offline HTML browser that
>> uses HTMLview.mcc

>> Anyone know where to find it?

> Search for it on our CD. The mcc goes out of date very quickly, but the
> browser works with all versions of it so far...

AFCD 39

http://www.DIKU.dk/students/duff/

Cya


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Hi there folks,   It's me again and I have some new problems that I'd
appreciate answers to (if possible).

I'm now online with my A1200T  (and the Appolo 040 is a hell of a lot
more stable than it was BTW - it doesnt crash 4 times when the computer
is cold anymore!) but I am having trouble with both Hotmail and Egroups
(I'm using my flatmates IMac ATM).

First Egroups.  Using the Netconnect 3 package (still with Voyager 2
until they send me the new version) when I try to access Egroups it
says my computer did not return the cookie it sent it.  Now both cookie
options in Voyager are set to accept and there is no-where else that
mention cookies.  Any ideas on how to solve this?

Secondly, Hotmail.  This sends back a window that stays open for about
1/3 a second (I had to grab the title bar with my mouse to hold it
open) saying that it cant secure the SSL channel (or whatever).  I've
looked at the list of SSL passes in Voyager and Hotmail isnt on it. 
I've tryed a Yahoo search for SSL and Hotmail SSL but come up with
nothing.  How can I access Hotmail?  Where can I get the pass for it?

Help!!!!

Thankyou all in advance.

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi all,


>> > Now, Does anyone know if EDO simms will work with my 1230LC ?
>
>Unlikely - and I could never get any EDO simms going in mine. The 1240/1260
>boards seem quite happy with EDO though :)


Bugger :(

How much do I need to save to get a second hand 1240 then?

Tom

Hi,

    When using Microdot-II (part of NC2) using newsgroups I have two options
either download just headers or headers & bodies. The trouble with just
headers (which is miles faster) is that well its just the headers, can I not
after seeing the header only, download the full item that I want. Otherwise
it means downloading loads of rubbish that i don't want to read just for a
few items.
    
See You
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  Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 
            'Coming soon the new Amiga MCC'

>>>> You may not use floppies regularly, but they're still useful.

>> Hooray! Can you help me argue with Neil Bothwick please Alex? We need
>> to defend our floppy equipment ;)
> 
> As I say, I'm with the man Bothwick.  Handy as they are, I only use them
> occasionally.  I think you've forgotten what this argument was all about.
> It's whether or not to include a floppy drive with the NG.
> I agree most peeps ever need to use them, and will only end up sticking
> rulers in there to make the button pop out.  Why don't you ask some people
> with iMacs how they fared without one?

If its just a bog standard floppy drive can we not use our drives (external)
ones from our present machines or are the connections going to be different 

                 Cheers all the best

                      Ken Walsh




  Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 
            'Coming soon the new Amiga MCC'

Hello Mark

>>   Now that it's dead, I suppose I'll need a new one, so does anyone A)
>> have one I can buy off them? or B) know of a cheap monitor, that will work
>> with a 15khz PAL and NTSC scart output, and preferably has dual input, even
>> more preferable one scart, and one comp video input (so I wouldn't have to
>> get a scart splitter) ?
>> 
>>   Or am I better off trying to get my old one fixed?
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> It sounds fixable to me, probably something on the line circuit got
> fried (you're getting a picture, it's just sqeezed into a vertical
> column). Why not get a repair estimate first?


a lot of these are going second hand (some with Amiga machines) might be
cheaper to buy second hand if repair bill is to much (remember the guarantee
will only cover the repair done) might pick up a monitor for a good price
(remember these type of monitors are only good for us Amiga people the
majority of times) look in 'LOOT'
     
                 Cheers all the best

                      Ken Walsh




  Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 
            'Coming soon the new Amiga MCC'

---- Original Message ----- 
From: Tom Underwood <tcu-666@ukonine.co.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 19:17
Subject: [afb] Re: QNX Called!


> > If I were provoking you, I'd stand on my head going "Wooooooble wooooble
> > raaaaaaaaaaar, squeeeeeeeeeg!"
> You should try AFB-OT :)

Sounds fun, I might join :)

Neil

> I got my internal SCSI ZIP drive (ZIP100 Insider) from Gasteiner
> almost a year ago. Fits in either a 3" bay or 5" with the
> supplied face plate. I can't remember exactly how much, I think around
> 100 inc p+p. Don't know if they still got any though.

Do they still do Amiga stuff?

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
To: Matthew O'Neill <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 21:44
Subject: [afb] Re: Power Tower


> It's not the colour that's tacky (it's actually quite a nice shade of
> blue).

Hmm... I agree. Nice colour, and damned nice piece of equipment too. If only I
had an IDE one, or one of those adaptor thingies to connect this Parallel one
I *do* have to my Amiga. Do you have to make them, or is there somewhere that
sells them, pray tell? :)

Neil

On 24 Aug 99 21:38:40 +0000, Brian Edward Soley said:
> Hello all  
> 
> I am having trouble downloading .wavs with both Voyager and AmFTP.  I 
> accidentally delated the host name in AmFTP when trying to download from Aminet 
> so the connection was closed.  Voyager tries but the computer (A1200T) hangs 
> when trying to unpack .lha files.  I was trying to download a program called 
> TAPAVI in Voyager but the computer locked up on me.  Does anyone know if I can 
> get this program anywhere else?  If not, can anyone help an idiot out of a spot?  

If you really want it, mail me privately and I'll send it to you, but
it is quite old now...

Have you tried MooVid or MaVi instead? Far better.

Chris.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 25 August 1999 00:36
Subject: [afb] Re: Iffparse.library


> You can go to http://www.classicgaming/aiab/ and download a fully setup
WinUAE
> setup :)

Cool! Saves me doing ANYTHING! :)

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---- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Thornton <mcwib@iname.com>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 19:51
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Power (was Who does *Nick* look like)


> > Are you sure you're not thinking of The One (fixated with the word "Arse")

The One was rubbish, but it has it's funny parts :)

Neil

Hi Ben Vost,

> Sorry to see it's also the last issue I enjoyed reading them over the past
> few years.

Say it isn`t so!

1. I seem to remember there was a readers poll recently. Can you 
tell me if/what (back) issue the results are in please?

2. Presumably some of the existing AF advertisers will all be 
heading over to Amiga Active: When does it come out?

Thanks,
Dave S.

----- Original Message -----
From: <bill-mod@bacchae.demon.co.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 24 August 1999 23:44
Subject: [afb] POLL: Should Ben shave his beard off?


> The burning question we are all interested in!
>
> Are beardy blokes like Ben sexy or is clean
>
> shaven the funky thing?

Goodbye Mr. Poll... If only you were dated! (See, I'm being responsible! Can I
be a moderator :))

Neil

---- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
To: <afb@egroups.com>
Sent: 25 August 1999 00:36
Subject: [afb] Re: Iffparse.library


>   You can go to http://www.classicgaming/aiab/ and download a fully setup
WinUAE
> setup :)

Well, It's actually www.classicgaming.com/aiab/ and it's moved anyway :) Try
http://www.emuunlim.com/aiab/ for the current site :)

Neil

>Greetings  Tom


Are you psychic Andy :)

>For filling in the gaps between releases, you can't go wrong with
>Robert Rankin. light, easy reading and quite amusing (spot the
>intentional understatement).


Is he the guy who did "Nostrodamus ate my Hamster"? If so then I agree with
you. He's not bad.

Cheers

Tom

Hello All,

On 23-Aug-99, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Hi Danny
> On 22-Aug-99, you wrote
> 
>>> Hmm, you can, there is a util on aminet which lets you save using any
>>> datatype IIRC
> 
>> Will this allow other programs, eg PPaint, to save through Datatypes
>> too?
> 
> nope, but what cant ppaint save as?

Just the lesser used formats such as TIFF and Targa

Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at 2.898 Giga keys/hour

Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice.
-- James P. Hogan

Hi Everybody,

> First Egroups.  Using the Netconnect 3 package (still with Voyager 2
> until they send me the new version) when I try to access Egroups it
> says my computer did not return the cookie it sent it.  Now both cookie=

> options in Voyager are set to accept and there is no-where else that
> mention cookies.  Any ideas on how to solve this?

   That seems to be a bug in Voyager, I usually get it when trying to get=
 into hotmail...

> Secondly, Hotmail.  This sends back a window that stays open for about
> 1/3 a second (I had to grab the title bar with my mouse to hold it
> open) saying that it cant secure the SSL channel (or whatever).  I've
> looked at the list of SSL passes in Voyager and Hotmail isnt on it. =

> I've tryed a Yahoo search for SSL and Hotmail SSL but come up with
> nothing.  How can I access Hotmail?  Where can I get the pass for it?

   SSL isn't something you can get, its the way that your browser to reci=
eve and send encrypted data.  Voyager should do this automatically, check=
 its installed propperly and the settings are right.

   BTW. I've tried to use Voyager to get into hotmail, but were greated b=
y a cookey error, much like your egroupes error.

  =

   You now have 3 choices:

1) Wait for voyager 3

2) Get IBrowse (both sites work with my version 1.22)

3) Set up Mac emulation and use either netscape or IE.

See ya.
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
     Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/      ICQ: 21829166        =

 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players!
  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
If a statue of a person on a horse has both of the horse's front legs in =
the air, then the person died in battle.
--The Miscellanea Digest

Hi Everybody,

>    When using Microdot-II (part of NC2) using newsgroups I have two opt=
ions
> either download just headers or headers & bodies. The trouble with just=

> headers (which is miles faster) is that well its just the headers, can =
I not
> after seeing the header only, download the full item that I want. Other=
wise
> it means downloading loads of rubbish that i don't want to read just fo=
r a
> few items.

   What about the menu item  message/download ? this downloads only the s=
elected items. =


(although, mine is set up to check the headers, then to download the full=
 message when I double click on it, so you should check the config...)

See ya.
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
     Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/      ICQ: 21829166        =

 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players!
  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
"Bother," said Pooh, as he confronted the man with the golden gun.

Yes, this is a known problem with MD2.  Annoying as it is, until a fix is
made all one can do is to download the full articles.


Cheers,

Darin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Walsh [mailto:bigken@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: August 24, 1999 12:30 PM
To: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] MD2


Hi,

    When using Microdot-II (part of NC2) using newsgroups I have two options
either download just headers or headers & bodies. The trouble with just
headers (which is miles faster) is that well its just the headers, can I not
after seeing the header only, download the full item that I want. Otherwise
it means downloading loads of rubbish that i don't want to read just for a
few items.
    
See You
-- 
                 Cheers all the best

                      Ken Walsh




  Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 
            'Coming soon the new Amiga MCC'




------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFB: Please quote sensibly and read all MANAGER mails

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:07:28 +0100, Ken Walsh said:
> 
> If its just a bog standard floppy drive can we not use our drives (external)
> ones from our present machines or are the connections going to be different 

No. No "standard" floppy port will be provided, you will need to use
USB.

Chris.

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| Blizzard SCSI,Iomega ZIP,4xCD           |
| Catweasel/Buddha ZII,24xCD,Conner 512MB |
| HyperCom3Z,Dynalink 56K,EpsonSC600      |
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> > Sorry to see it's also the last issue I enjoyed reading them over the past
> > few years.
> Say it isn`t so!

Eh? Have I missed something!?

Neil

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:30:03 +0100, Ken Walsh said:
> Hi,
> 
>     When using Microdot-II (part of NC2) using newsgroups I have two options
> either download just headers or headers & bodies. The trouble with just
> headers (which is miles faster) is that well its just the headers, can I not
> after seeing the header only, download the full item that I want. Otherwise
> it means downloading loads of rubbish that i don't want to read just for a
> few items.

If you're still online, just double click on the headers you want to
download the body for.
Alternatively, download the headers, go offline, multi-select all the
posts you want, go back on line and click "Read".

Or get NewsRog :-)

Chris.

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| A1200T 060/50 2Mb Chip 128Mb Fast       |
| Picasso IV,Paloma TV,Maxtor 3.2GB,      |
| Blizzard SCSI,Iomega ZIP,4xCD           |
| Catweasel/Buddha ZII,24xCD,Conner 512MB |
| HyperCom3Z,Dynalink 56K,EpsonSC600      |
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In order not to propagate rumours.....


What! What! What!!


I really do hope this is a miscommunication.



Cheers,

Darin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Davey [mailto:Davey@get.freewire.net]
Sent: August 24, 1999 5:14 PM
To: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] last orders, please



Hi Ben Vost,

> Sorry to see it's also the last issue I enjoyed reading them over the past
> few years.

Say it isn`t so!

1. I seem to remember there was a readers poll recently. Can you 
tell me if/what (back) issue the results are in please?

2. Presumably some of the existing AF advertisers will all be 
heading over to Amiga Active: When does it come out?

Thanks,
Dave S.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
AFB: Please quote sensibly and read all MANAGER mails

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:07:29 +0100, Neil Bullock said:

> > I got my internal SCSI ZIP drive (ZIP100 Insider) from Gasteiner
> > almost a year ago. Fits in either a 3" bay or 5" with the
> > supplied face plate. I can't remember exactly how much, I think around
> > 100 inc p+p. Don't know if they still got any though.
> 
> Do they still do Amiga stuff?

Yea, CDRoms, memory SIMMS, Hard drives etc. :-)
Honestly, I don't know, but didn't they hold an "Amiga day" or
something a short while back? So I suppose so. 
You could always give them a call and ask.

Chris.

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| panda@enterprise.net                    |
| A1200T 060/50 2Mb Chip 128Mb Fast       |
| Picasso IV,Paloma TV,Maxtor 3.2GB,      |
| Blizzard SCSI,Iomega ZIP,4xCD           |
| Catweasel/Buddha ZII,24xCD,Conner 512MB |
| HyperCom3Z,Dynalink 56K,EpsonSC600      |
+-----------------------------------------+

Hello Vincenzo,

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote about [afb] CandyFactory


> Hello,
> 
> does anybody know if Candy Factory Pro is compatible with WarpOS?
> 
> If not, does it work under PPCLIB emulation?
> 
> Kind regards

I think it was written for WarpOS rather than PowerUp. There are no elf
files, unlike the beta versions, it's a fat binary. It runs fine on mine
and I have WarpOS plus the PPCLib Emulator installed with very good
results - only three programs fail to work under emulation and rc5 is very
slightly faster!


Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at 2.898 Giga keys/hour

Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you
won't either.
-- Murphy's laws on sex

Hello All,

On 24-Aug-99, biffordyoungest@hotmail.com wrote:

> First Egroups.  Using the Netconnect 3 package (still with Voyager 2
> until they send me the new version) when I try to access Egroups it
> says my computer did not return the cookie it sent it.  Now both cookie
> options in Voyager are set to accept and there is no-where else that
> mention cookies.  Any ideas on how to solve this?

You can't! Voyager2 just dosn't support the advanced choc-chip cookie.
Download the latest V preview and it will view the site fine.
 
> Secondly, Hotmail.  This sends back a window that stays open for about
> 1/3 a second (I had to grab the title bar with my mouse to hold it
> open) saying that it cant secure the SSL channel (or whatever).  I've
> looked at the list of SSL passes in Voyager and Hotmail isnt on it. 
> I've tryed a Yahoo search for SSL and Hotmail SSL but come up with
> nothing.  How can I access Hotmail?  Where can I get the pass for it?

Again, try with the V preview. (I assume you are trying to get in through
their web site).


Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
Member of the AmigaRC5 team: Cracking blocks at 2.898 Giga keys/hour

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-- Albert Einstein

sholme-@messages.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=25898
> The burning question we are all interested in!

> Are beardy blokes like Ben sexy or is clean

> shaven the funky thing?

> 

> 
> ----
> 
> Please select one of the following:
> 
>    o Yes. Ben should shave pretty damn soon!
>    o No. Ben should keep his beard.
>    o That's a beard?
>    o I like Ben so much, I just want to get on the next train to Bath
and buy a pint for everyone who has a beard.
>    o The state of a man's chin is his own private buisness!
>    o Who is Ben anyway?
>    o Soory. I just walked past this terminal and found that someone
had left thier browser logged in.
>    o Bill is wasting valuable resources by posting frivious polls
like this one. His afb subscription must be roked immeditately!


Oh dear. Looks like this poll will be removed like mine did.

Ben, you need to make the fact that you need a date more obvious!!


Steven Holmes

 
> > > Are you sure you're not thinking of The One (fixated with the
word "Arse")
> 
> The One was rubbish, but it has it's funny parts :)
> 
> Neil


I thought that 'The One' was the better of the 3 games mags. 
They nearly always had good cover disks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <sholmes@messages.co.uk>
To: <afb@eGroups.com>
Sent: 25 August 1999 01:12
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Power (was Who does *Nick* look like)


> > The One was rubbish, but it has it's funny parts :)
> I thought that 'The One' was the better of the 3 games mags.
> They nearly always had good cover disks.

I thought it was the best of the 3 games mags too, which shows you what I
think of the others :/

Neil

On 24-Aug-99 19:36:06, You said about;
 
>*/Thank you Alex Furmanski for your email dated 23-Aug-99/*
>>> Now which ad is that? :-)
>> 
>> The one with the steam and the wind blowing at her hair. And she walks
>> away from camera at the end and you can see here nice a.....

Ass? There, said it for you.... ;)

>Now who was it who said about the bird off the 3D Dorietos ad? Now she has a
>/*very*/ nice pair of breasts!! :-)  Soz Ben, but I just had to say it ;-)

That would this pervy sat here typing this. Shame they're not real
though, but apart from that, phwaaarrrr......

-- 
 Andy Mills,
 South West Amiga Group
 http://www.wharne.u-net.com/swag/
--
They'll release Windows 3.2 when 3.1 finishes loading.

On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 07:51:30PM +0100, Daniel Thornton wrote:

> I think a lot of the bad feeling towards the magazine was created by the
> software houses, who, not understanding that 50% is an average mark,
> stopped supplying them with games to review.

Which, amusingly enough, appears to be happening to Digitiser now. That
lovable games industry, eh?

> > (Official honourary mighty being. 
> 
> Stop showing off. :)
> Have you be sent your AP stuff yet?

Stuart's at the Edinburgh Festival at the moment, I think. Bah.

> And was I right about the ticket cost in #creatures?

Roughly. Annoyingly it looks like it's falling through after half the
people involved suddenly found they had to be in Scotland, or something.

> Oh, and seeing as you're the only Mighty Being alive (honorarily), it's
> actually your job to start up the new Amiga Power-alike magazine.

Ah. Erm. Well, stay tuned...

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 07:19:06PM +0000, Paul Cundle wrote:

> But what if you want to transfer to PC's with their brain-dead
> architecture? A floppy, maybe?

No, the internet. Quite literally everyone that I might want to transfer
information to is connected to the internet in such a way as to allow me
to do that. This is going to become increasingly widespread in the near
future as cable modems and ADSL take off.

> But you can't always. Imagine you get some wonderful info and want to
> transfer it to a PC - whadda ya gonna do if it's not networked  and
> doesn't have the facility to 'obtain it again'?

I don't need to. Quite simply, it's not going to happen. If it's anything
less than a megabyte, emailing it is a hell of a lot easier. If it's more,
I refuse to muck about with splitting it across disks and risking one of
them developing a spontaneous error. Floppies aren't reliable enough,
aren't large enough and are annoyingly difficult. I'd rather burn a CD.

> Wha??? There is no way you can transfer info from a video/CD/teletext
> to a floppy in a useful way (except a screen grab I suppose). You
> /can/ get decent stuff onto a floppy from the MCC.

No, but you could produce one. The MCC is designed to fit into the same
sort of market to a large extent, and forcing a large number of people who
will never need a floppy drive to buy one is stupid. If you need a floppy
drive, you can buy an external one for not a great deal more than the
price would end up being increased for including an internal one.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Hello Chris

On 24-Aug-99, you wrote:

> Hi Matt.
> 
>> Read 'The Rats' by James Herbert, that scared me shitless for weeks.
>> 
>> Actually it's more funny than scary, but in a nasty grimace-worthy
>> gory kind of way..
>> 
> 
> I wondered when someone would mention Herbert in this thread. I read The
> Rats years ago and have read most of his others since. Definitely my kind
> of horror! The only strange one he ever wrote was 'Fluke', about a dog
> that thinks he's a man that thinks he's a dog... Most peculiar and nothing
> like his other novels, but still somehow worth the read to try and work it
> all out.

And they made a film of theat one. Also The Survivor was a great book but a
crap film. I thought they made a film of The Rats or am I thinking of the
one with Ernie Borgnine from the book 'Willard' with Michael Jackson doing
Ben on the sound track.

Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate
410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k
Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF and Citizen Swift Printer.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-- Albert Einstein

> > Now, Does anyone know if EDO simms will work with my 1230LC ?

Unlikely - and I could never get any EDO simms going in mine. The 1240/1260
boards seem quite happy with EDO though :)

Chris Green
Technical Editor
Computing