From nobody Sun Aug 1 07:00:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29554 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22563 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 11:00:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22556 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 11:00:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web904.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 11:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990801105945.12273.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.137.96] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 01 Aug 1999 11:59:45 BST Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:59:45 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] parallel port samplers Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi Does anyone have any code they can send me for reading from a parallel port sampler cartridge? 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 1 13:16:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28532 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14442 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 17:17:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 14283 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 17:16:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 17:16:59 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-053.enterprise.net [194.72.197.53]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA05155 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:16:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 18:16:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990801105945.12273.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: parallel port samplers Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Does anyone have any code they can send me for reading > from a parallel port sampler cartridge? Using the info in the technosound manual I got data from one, but it didn't seem to be much use as when I played it as a sample it was just noise. Perhaps I have to sign the data, or maybe it couldn't sample it fast enough to get any meaningful sound from it? I don't seem to have a copy anywhere, but if no-one else has a /working /one, I could try getting it working again. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hitler and Napolean each had only one testical. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 1 14:43:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28146 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32100 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 18:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 32079 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 18:43:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 18:43:34 -0000 Received: from du-53.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.53]:1027 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8581-1149> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:43:17 +0300 Message-ID: <009a01bedc4e$4c9efc00$35c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:35:01 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Vs: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Leto, >Also, I found on Aminet a doc on optimising AMOS code. One >suggestion was that floating point calculations, which is supposed >involved with arrays like: PLAYER#() are _very_ slow. I've been >using these arrays heaps in my new tank code! I can not afford >for the game to be slow. What do other people know about this? >If it's true, how can I get around it? > > -- Leto How about learning Amal?:) It gives you chance to move things very smoothly without any kind of floating points... It's not so hard to learn, really:D [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations DALMATIANRESCUE. Our latest ONElist of the week. To see full story and submit YOUR ONElist story, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/ootw_19.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 1 15:29:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23213 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24285 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 19:28:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 24276 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-077.enterprise.net [194.72.196.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19234 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:29:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 20:29:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990731202425.9895.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Also, I found on Aminet a doc on optimising AMOS > code. One > suggestion was that floating point calculations, > which is supposed > involved with arrays like: PLAYER#() are _very_ > slow. I've been > using these arrays heaps in my new tank code! I can > not afford > for the game to be slow. What do other people know > about this? Ah, floating point no's are around 3 to 4 times slower then integer when compiled, but so what? My James Bond game uses a lot of floating point stuff and that runs fine, if it didn't have to contend with the blitter's speed it'd run at 50fps ;). If you want the game to remain at the same speed, add an automatic frame skipper, and store stuff like sin/cos's in a table instead of calling them directly. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Only two people signed the American Declaration of Independence on July 4th - John Hancock and Charles Thomson. Most of the rest signed on August 2, but the last signature wasn't added until five years later. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 08:45:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06800 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32090 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 12:45:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 32077 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 12:45:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero1.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 12:45:02 -0000 Received: from usr02.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.82]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07179 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:40:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-52.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.244]) by usr02.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04390 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:40:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 14:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller The last couple of days I have gotten a "Connection Refused" everytime I try to look up any of the AmiNet sites. Do I have a problem or have something changed or what? -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - it's all psychological: you yell barracuda, everbody says "huh? what?" you yell shark, we've got a panic on our hands on the fourth of july! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 10:44:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22489 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19071 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 14:45:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18993 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 14:45:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edtnps04.telusplanet.net) (198.161.157.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:45:02 -0000 Received: from edtntnt5-port-54.agt.net ([161.184.204.54]:1830 "EHLO telusplanet.net") by smtp1.telusplanet.net with ESMTP id <43197-6487>; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:44:10 -0600 Message-ID: <37A5AE60.D3F7DEA2@telusplanet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 08:42:41 -0600 From: Dale Hymanyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: Dale Hymanyk I've had the same problems. Assuming they are down... Dale Rune Keller wrote: > From: Rune Keller > > The last couple of days I have gotten a "Connection Refused" everytime I try to > look up any of the AmiNet sites. Do I have a problem or have something changed > or what? > -- > rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk > - it's all psychological: you yell barracuda, everbody says "huh? what?" > you yell shark, we've got a panic on our hands on the fourth of july! > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist: your connection to online communities. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 22:07:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05430 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19923 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 01:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19794 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 01:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 01:47:24 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-39-169.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.135.169]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07441 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 21:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 02-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I >> cannot get the mouse down low enough. My latest project involves Points about Limit Mouse: 1 it uses the screen position, (128,50) as an offset 2. It uses low res coordinates, no matter what screen you are opening so Limit mouse 128,50 to 447,305 should work. 447= 128 (x offset default) + 319 (low res version of screen width, weird but true) 305= 50 (y offset default [may be different on PAL)) +255 (low res again) Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 05:02:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA04771 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10056 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 09:02:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10023 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 09:02:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 09:02:09 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.128]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA1834 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:07:25 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:02:28 +0100 Message-ID: <003801bedd8e$e965a5c0$8048a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello Rune, I have found the UK aminet site has been inaccessable for the past few weeks but the German mirror, http://de.aminet.net/aminet/, works just fine. Declan. -----Original Message----- From: Rune Keller [mailto:keller@vip.cybercity.dk] Sent: 02 August 1999 14:36 To: AMOS List Subject: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet From: Rune Keller The last couple of days I have gotten a "Connection Refused" everytime I try to look up any of the AmiNet sites. Do I have a problem or have something changed or what? --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 05:28:08 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10416 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28954 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 09:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28937 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 09:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 09:28:03 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.134.53] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A65D4E01D0; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:29:01 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:06:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Andrew On 02-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >> For the last couple of years any buttons I've used have all been inside >> the 640x200 >> range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I >> cannot get the mouse down low enough. > Limit mouse 0 (that turns off mouse limiting, or is it 1?) my version of amospro(the AF one) won't accept 0 or 1 > > Limit mouse x hard(0),y hard(0) to x hard(640),y hard(256) > Tried that but still limited movement so I inserted and loop to print the mouse co-ordinates and found that although I opened a screen of 640x256 the mouse co-ordinates were top left 124,40 and bottom right 448,294 giving a display of 320x256 for the mouse. I've fed these co-ords in and all is well. Many thanks for your speedy response it's much appreciated. >> If I can solve this I might be able to stem >> Andrew's monopoly of the Readers Games Prize (fat chance!). > > Don't worry, I doubt that I'll be doing any more readers games, I'm > breaking into the commercial market now (yeah, about 10 years too late!!) > > Yes, thats right, be on the look out for such brilliant titles as > 'Blast Squad' and 'Pictris AGA', comming to a store near you ;) I wish you well in the future with commercial stuff. Had Ocean released your James Bond a few years ago as an official tie-in they perhaps wouldn't have been lumbered with such a bad reputation for crappy film tie-ins like Total Recall etc. Many thanks too to Paolo Rinaldi who also helped with this problem. Regards roger --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! 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Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 12:01:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04080 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29069 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 16:01:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 29063 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 16:01:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 16:01:14 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10206 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16228 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:01:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:01:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Rune Keller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" funny, I have been having no trouble with the main cite, www.aminet.org (or is it .net) @wustl in Usa. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations COUNTRYSIDE-ELIST. Our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 07:58:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17117 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23477 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 11:58:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23459 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 11:58:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 11:58:20 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA02737 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:57:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-48.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.48]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA15891 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:57:57 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: Sasu Lintula Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:38:00 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <009a01bedc4e$4c9efc00$35c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler >How about learning Amal?:) It gives you chance to move things >very smoothly without any kind of floating points... >It's not so hard to learn, really:D I've seen the code to your ship flight thing, Sasu, and it's nuts! It would take ages to learn it all....... And as far as I can see, it currently is easy to get and change X / Y positions.... -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Richard van den Brink This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 07:58:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06188 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19321 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 11:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 19285 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 11:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 11:58:22 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA02754 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:58:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-48.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.48]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA15910 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:58:00 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: Rune Keller Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:47:43 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler >The last couple of days I have gotten a "Connection Refused" >everytime I try to look up any of the AmiNet sites. Do I have a >problem or have something changed or what? Aminet is getting really dodgy lately. It crashes all the time. The best Aminet to try is: http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/ (I think) -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 13:05:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20554 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 515 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 17:05:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 510 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 17:05:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 17:05:05 -0000 Received: from vmadd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.73.170]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Bi0G-00093l-0C for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:05:29 +0000 Received: from vmadd ([127.0.0.1]) by vmadd.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NetNow!/3.0.0.999) id VMDD301823C3 for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01beddd2$566ce3c0$aa49989e@vmadd> From: "Dwayne Heaton" To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:05:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Hops: 1 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet Status: O X-Status: From: "Dwayne Heaton" i generally use http://aminet.net/aminet/ it has never gone wrong for me.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Scooter D. Matott sXe To: Rune Keller Sent: 03 August 1999 17:01 Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-Topic: AmiNet > From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > > funny, I have been having no trouble with the main cite, > www.aminet.org (or is it .net) @wustl in Usa. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 14:48:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20076 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14387 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 18:48:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14323 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 18:48:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 18:48:19 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.133.17] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9B624B01AA; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:49:26 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:30:08 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Rev. On 03-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: "Rev. Giark To You" > > On 02-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >>> range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I >>> cannot get the mouse down low enough. My latest project involves > > Points about Limit Mouse: > > 1 it uses the screen position, (128,50) as an offset > 2. It uses low res coordinates, no matter what screen you are opening > > so > > Limit mouse 128,50 to 447,305 > > should work. it does, perfectly. sorry i've just posted one email before I read this but thanks anyway > 447= 128 (x offset default) + 319 (low res version of screen width, weird > but true) > 305= 50 (y offset default [may be different on PAL)) +255 (low res again) AFAIK the offset is not covered in the online Help for Amospro, hence my struggles. regards roger --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElists WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 15:04:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19407 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5904 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 19:03:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5890 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 19:03:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 19:03:22 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-079.enterprise.net [194.72.196.199]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10575 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:03:49 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:03:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > AFAIK the offset is not covered in the online Help for Amospro, hence my > struggles. Yep, thats because it works in hardware co-ordinates. By the way, After checking with the Amos manual, I was wrong about the limit mouse thing: To set the mouse limit of the current screen (thats to the screen's boarders) all you have to do is: Wait Vbl Limit Mouse That way the mouse will be perfectly limited to the current screen. (The wait vbl bit, apparently, is important) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 2/8/99 --- James Bond level editor! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as Odd Job /took his hat off/ for him. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 3 19:34:05 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02681 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7820 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 23:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7727 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 23:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 23:32:23 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20170 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10810 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:32:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <19990728232709.24067.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Sample Playing, PT Raw... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > The limit is 131072 bytes (or close), due to Paula. > To get around this you can use AmigaOS audio.device, > sending max-length blocks one after the other until > the sample is all played (the iorequests are queued). > I have no problems playing samples larger than that using Amos's own Sam Raw, wonder waht it's doing?? Somethign that Pt Raw ain't I suppose... > Try chopping samples up into smaller samples. > (Tricky) > > Try transposing the samples an octave up (resample) > and playing them at a lower pitch. (Poor quality) > I was working on an Animation player thing to add soundFX and music to anim's as well as fades and set frame rate, plus make it possible to stream many anim's together.... Turns out there is already animatED out there to do this! I downloaded it today, will check it out, my Amos prog is fully written, just that unless Pt Raw can get working sounds will ruin any music being played. Also I am considering maye maybe using DME to do the music bit, it is strange though, you must specify a channel to shut off, then play a sound then I guess turn the channel back on again for music... Ok for games, but will be tricky on a system like this, where I need to be able to handle any thing a user can throw at the proggy.. Anyway, I may release my code anyway, even knowing animatED is out there, it seems similar but I have a few tricks up my sleeve that may make the AMOS go at an Anim/Sound system worthwhile... > > > it starts terds out very early on big sample and > > dies jsut before then end of small samples... > > Basically, if you chop 131072 bytes from the end until > there is less than that left, that is what will play. > So a 140000 bytes sample will play only 9000 bytes. > > > Claude > > _____________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Congratulations DALMATIANRESCUE. 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For details on ONElists NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 5 15:38:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03314 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9956 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 9830 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-006.enterprise.net [194.72.196.6]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10999; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:37:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: afb@egroups.com, just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:37:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] !James Bond on a GFX card screen!! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Whats that you say? You can't use a GFX card with amos? Well, Think again! James Bond V0.98 is now out (cor, that was quick - ed) and this time it supports ANY GFX CARD! Yes, thats right! Now all you BV/CV owners who were missing out because they didn't have a scandoubler can now finally play You Only Live Twice. And if that wasn't enough, the CPU players are better and some bugs are fixed too ;) So, why not go to my homepage, Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ and download a copy of James Bond V0.98 now ;) PS. James Bond has not yet been /tested/ on a gfx card, but the routines it uses have, so it should work no prob. PPS. Does anyone have one of those 4-player adapters? I would /really/ like to know if James Bond actually works with it... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 4/8/99 --- James Bond CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 11:29:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15774 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12626 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 15:29:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12617 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 15:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 15:29:54 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-048.enterprise.net [194.72.195.168]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16175 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:29:17 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 16:28:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I've started making some changes to my James Bond game to allow for a TCP network option, but I still can't figure out the GUI extention's TCP commands. So, has anyone at all got any example code of some simple TCP commands, say a Telnet program written in amos? please? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson." --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 12:28:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30562 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6969 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 16:28:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 6950 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 16:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 16:28:23 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-055.enterprise.net [194.72.195.175]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23668 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:28:21 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 17:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I have more spasific questions about the TCP commands in the GUI ext: How do I make it wait for someone to connect to you? I've tried opening the TCP port on my machine (my IP no.) but that fails. I want to make it set up a server for people to connect to, but I can't for the life of me work out how. Also, how would that affect multiple logins? Like, what would happen if someone was connected to it, and someone else tried to connect? Anyway, if anyone has any amos program that can communicate with another copy of it's self over the 'net could I plleeeaaaasssseee have a look at it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - In ancient China and certain parts of India, mouse meat was considered a great delicacy. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 18:41:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01059 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26049 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 22:42:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26006 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 22:42:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 22:42:19 -0000 Received: from vmadd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.73.170]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DF9i-000DPn-0K for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:41:35 +0000 Received: from vmadd ([127.0.0.1]) by vmadd.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NetNow!/3.0.0.999) id VMDD311924E8 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 07 Aug 1999 23:41:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bee125$f215b120$aa49989e@vmadd> From: "Dwayne Heaton" To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:41:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Hops: 1 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Dwayne Heaton" They are not quite like serial commands.. a server program needs to put a socket in listen mode, and when detects a client connecting process the data from the client.. to have multiple connect sessions, you need to start the server <--> communication in a separate thread, and then put the server socket back in listen mode.. Well that works under win32 and unix, may be different using AMOS though.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rev. Giark To You To: Andrew Crowe Sent: 08 August 1999 00:02 Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. > From: "Rev. Giark To You" > > On 07-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > > So, has anyone at all got any example code of some simple TCP commands, > say > >a Telnet program written in amos? please? > > What are you not understanding? They are almost exactly the same as serial > commands. > > Well met and godspeed, > Rev. 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For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 18:08:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03859 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27183 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 22:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 27061 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 22:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 22:08:38 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-08-129.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.129]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09780 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:07:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 18:02:23 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 07-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > So, has anyone at all got any example code of some simple TCP commands, say >a Telnet program written in amos? please? What are you not understanding? They are almost exactly the same as serial commands. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 18:08:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA06837 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20664 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 22:09:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20185 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 22:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 22:08:44 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-08-129.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.129]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09804 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 18:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 07-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >How do I make it wait for someone to connect to you? You would use inetd (part of your system in miami or whatever) and launch the program that way, just like any other daemon. inetd will send the port info to your program and you can read it using the Command Line$ instruction. I've just started working on a Lunar Conquest INet version, so I'm wrestling with the same problems. > I want to make it set up a server for people to connect to, but I can't for >the life of me work out how. I just told you. You'll have to experiment with the arguments and see how it comes through, but it should launch properly that way. >Also, how would that affect multiple logins? Like, what would happen if >someone was connected to it, and someone else tried to connect? Well, if the data can be kept separate, compile the program with gui mode, not amos mode, so you can run multiple copies. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 20:02:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12532 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 20:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1548 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 00:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 1409 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 00:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 00:02:49 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-026.enterprise.net [194.72.197.26]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA12458 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:01:58 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 01:01:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> So, has anyone at all got any example code of some simple TCP commands, > say >> a Telnet program written in amos? please? > > What are you not understanding? They are almost exactly the same as serial > commands. Yeah, but they're far more complex, and I don't like complex things, I'm scared ;( Well, I think I'm starting to understand em. No wait, no I'm not. Well maybe a little... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Only two people signed the American Declaration of Independence on July 4th - John Hancock and Charles Thomson. 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For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 20:10:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01935 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 20:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5783 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 00:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5775 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 00:11:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 00:11:04 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-026.enterprise.net [194.72.197.26]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA13045 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:10:15 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 01:09:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > You would use inetd (part of your system in miami or whatever) and launch the > program that way, just like any other daemon. inetd will send the port info to > your program and you can read it using the Command Line$ instruction. > > I've just started working on a Lunar Conquest INet version, so I'm wrestling > with the same problems. > >> I want to make it set up a server for people to connect to, but I can't > for >> the life of me work out how. > > I just told you. You'll have to experiment with the arguments and see how it > comes through, but it should launch properly that way. Um, err, what is it? I'm afraid I haven't come across this thingy before ;( Well, anyhow, if you do get it running, if you could send me some example networking code please? :) (Well, you're gonna get there before me aren't you ;) >> Also, how would that affect multiple logins? Like, what would happen if >> someone was connected to it, and someone else tried to connect? > > Well, if the data can be kept separate, compile the program with gui mode, not > amos mode, so you can run multiple copies. Oh no, I can't run it in GUI mode, it uses too much interupt stuff. I have the multitasker patcher though, it removes the switcher code. But could I run multiple copies to test it? Would it work if all copies were on my machine? (hmmm, perhaps I don't need my other A1200 after all....) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Q: What is brown and sticky? A: A stick. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 7 21:08:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18211 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7266 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 01:09:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 7244 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 01:09:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 01:09:07 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-21-38.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.38]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA18577 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 21:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 07-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Um, err, what is it? I'm afraid I haven't come across this thingy before ;( Go into miami's interface, under interface and look at the inetd entries. You could pick a port for your game, then set up a command to run it followed by the port data parameters. >Well, anyhow, if you do get it running, if you could send me some example >networking code please? :) Will do. bug me occasionally. I've got a fair bit of time this week (um, actually its disappearing rapidly) to get started on it. >(Well, you're gonna get there before me aren't you ;) Quite possibly. > Oh no, I can't run it in GUI mode, it uses too much interupt stuff. I have >the multitasker patcher though, it removes the switcher code. But could I run >multiple copies to test it? Would it work if all copies were on my machine? >(hmmm, perhaps I don't need my other A1200 after all....) Depends on whether you want multiple users logging in. I think you can set inetd to only spawn 1 process. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 05:00:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25395 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16558 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 09:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 16542 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 09:00:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 09:00:30 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-014.enterprise.net [194.72.197.74]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08040 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:00:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 09:59:51 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Um, err, what is it? I'm afraid I haven't come across this thingy before > > Go into miami's interface, under interface and look at the inetd entries. You > could pick a port for your game, then set up a command to run it followed by > the port data parameters. Well, I don't use Miami, I use AmiTCP Genesis. I'd better check it has it... Ah yes, here we go. I've got a section in the prefs and an exe. Lets see If I can work out how to use it. Well I can't understand all that in the prefs, lets try running it: 11.Workbench:> inetd ? SERVPRI/K/N,TOOMANY/K/N,DEBUG/S,CONFIGFILE: inetd: already exists Um, hmmm, err, what does that mean? So, could I run this from my amos program, like say Exec "Inetd blah blah blah" or would the user have to set all that up manualy if he wanted to host a game? Also, is the Inetd system used in Miami and genesis different? Would I need two routines to handel each? >> Well, anyhow, if you do get it running, if you could send me some example >> networking code please? :) > > Will do. bug me occasionally. I've got a fair bit of time this week (um, > actually its disappearing rapidly) to get started on it. Well, the only incentive I have is that the sooner you can do that, the sooner /I/ can add TCP support to JamesBond (thats, if you like JB that is...) Anyway, cheers ;) >> Oh no, I can't run it in GUI mode, it uses too much interupt stuff. I have >> the multitasker patcher though, it removes the switcher code. But could I run >> multiple copies to test it? Would it work if all copies were on my machine? >> (hmmm, perhaps I don't need my other A1200 after all....) > > Depends on whether you want multiple users logging in. I think you can set > inetd to only spawn 1 process. Ah good, I have a funny feeling it would be a lot easer having 4 seperate ports for the different players. 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Transmeta Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id FAA16066 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=)հ䰁-Ѡ!ɽє4(4($ݽձٔѼ͕ѽ՝ѡЁ䁍ɥЁݥѠѡ4(̸4(AɕɅ䁥ѡэ4(4)QЁ4(4)ͬѡѼ͡܁Y ѥѥ幍ɽ镐Ѽͽͥͅ4)QͬѡA Ѽѡͅ4(4)Qݽձݥ4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4(8%R좿X(w*'bwljwdwky)~'"jP 9%[mgm((&Zr+{٥ From nobody Sun Aug 8 07:49:16 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05745 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 07:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5684 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 11:49:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5679 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 11:49:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 11:49:06 -0000 Received: from modem-26.protactinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.26] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DRRh-0002sk-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:48:58 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 12:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.30211888.1" Subject: [amos-list] What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.30211888.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I'm doing a game in AMOS, sort of like Grand Theft Auto, only wihtout the cars (at the moment anyway ;) and have just done a map scroller test, because I've NEVER done a scrolling game before ;) The map data is stored inside the program ATM (see below) and all files needed are included. My questions are: 1) Why do the map graphics trash up when you go so far down (and I don't mean the flickery bands, the palette changes!) 2) Why do the flickery bands show up. 3) How can I store the map data in a file and read it in later? 4) Why is it, that about three quarters of the way DOWN the map, everything goes white, and bobs won't show up on it. When I was using an IFF instead of a map tiles, this area refused to show up the main player bob, or the others. why? To move your bloke around, use the joystick, and aim and shoot with the left mouse button, and the mouse. Shooting is not detected between different bobs yet tho ;) Please help, this is driving me insane! Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* "Bother," said Pooh, as his flick knife failed to open. --BOUNDARY.30211888.1 Content-Type: application/x-lzx; name="MassacreTest.lzx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MassacreTest.lzx" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 TFpYAAwACgQAAA8AMgcAAAAAAAAKAgEAAAoAADu7TPrlDsrlVe6LYxdNYXNzYWNyZS9HRlgv UGxheWVyLkdGWA8AlgUAAIQDAAAKAgEAAAoAAEO6wTfoP++tAOpV9RRNYXNzYWNyZS9HRlgv TWFwLkdGWMVTBllAYAAOgAAiGQMyAoC/+Nu7L9u7Oxd7uQm64a13iQoq4IXwezOUw8opltBq 0raXIHnDjVZIzq3E90gwnkQYiIHksDzmCN6F1QMKJz6t91CfQN7oPQvm4wC+AAAZmAADoAD1 ssMzXyjuv/rOSIkORu7UFyTVIskEKqFKgtkiHLXFSL3SJEGdhhhKELruwV8lF2Kpem0ov2OX NiR2qqIQzx9UQiEL6YX0FvKWufVLl+uQ2AQERDIXAIW/YLOIFk7yrdTO8CR5n5GR0yoOf5qJ Hpob1E9Kiu5+PkRNldkHxVS/NDPBtFX+h/srx2s/4S4urpqgSs1RXNKJybz6fI/B8KKuVRSs LVKDgyTVOKdp3a5SbFYIlQVRM4Jw6S9HBq0vaeQT9MOdc9NOkk+gWJOAyEx1HMhXx1yVi8k4 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Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 08-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Also, is the Inetd system used in Miami and genesis different? Would I need > two routines to handel each? Miami, AmiTCP and Genesis (which is just a GUI for AmiTCP) works in the exact same way AFAIK. -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - thou didst find me beautiful once... - honey...you got reeeeal ugly! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 11:04:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12386 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 905 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 15:04:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 899 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 15:04:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 15:04:04 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-25-209.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.209]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20090 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:04:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 10:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 08-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Well, I don't use Miami, I use AmiTCP Genesis. I'd better check it has >it... It will, they all do. > Um, hmmm, err, what does that mean? InetD is always running, for it is your own personal port monitor/manager. >So, could I run this from my amos program, like say Exec "Inetd blah blah >blah" or would the user have to set all that up manualy if he wanted to host a >game? No, you set up an entry in your database for InetD like this: Port 453 myprog parameters and when someone addresses your system on port 453, it will run your program and pass the parameters you specify to it, allowing you to make a tcp connection. >Also, is the Inetd system used in Miami and genesis different? Would I need >two routines to handel each? InetD is just a program launcher, basically. It works the same across the board. You'll have to find out how the prameters are dealt with, but amos can read them. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 13:03:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06801 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30010 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 17:03:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 30003 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 17:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:03:43 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-052.enterprise.net [194.72.196.52]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27738 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:03:41 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:22:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > 1) Why do the map graphics trash up when you go so far down (and I > don't mean the flickery bands, the palette changes!) > 2) Why do the flickery bands show up. > 4) Why is it, that about three quarters of the way DOWN the map, > everything goes white, and bobs won't show up on it. When I was using > an IFF instead of a map tiles, this area refused to show up the main > player bob, or the others. why? Your problem is simple, it is the same problem I had while writing JamesBond: Your screen is too big. I'm afraid you're limited to about 640x512, otherwise at a certain point down the screen almost none of the Amos gfx commands will work. (as you have found) The only alternative is, I know the Turbo extentions F 16proc Icon command will work on a screen that big, I have no idea about bobs though, prehaps the PBOB extention'll work? > 3) How can I store the map data in a file and read it in later? easy, first you write a level editor, then do this: 'sx - x size of map 'sy - y size of map Dim MAP(sx,sy) ------------ level editor bit goes here ---- sav: Rem suproutine for saving. open out 1,FILENAME$ For x=0 to sx for y=0 to sy Print #1,map(x,y) next next close 1 return lod: Rem suproutine for loading. open in 1,FILENAME$ For x=0 to sx for y=0 to sy input #1,map(x,y) next next close 1 return then just use the 'lod' subroutine ingame. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 13:36:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20514 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14513 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 17:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14439 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 17:36:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web901.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:36:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990808173339.14895.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.132.247] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:33:39 BST Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:33:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: parallel port samplers Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi Andrew Crowe > you know asm? excellent, thats what language they gave > it in, I just modified it to amos code. Here's what the > manual says: I used your info to get some sampling done, the quality seems quite poor, with a strange metallic edge to it. I'm investigating using the system timer interrupts to record at a sensible rate, rather than having delay code. The hardware reference manual doesn't mention samplers at all. There may be some small differences between Technosound and Megalosound (which I have) samplers too. Maybe I'm trying to sample too quickly? (Before I put in the delay all I got was noise). Usage of program: sample >sample.raw I use octamed to convert the unsigned data from the sampler into signed Amiga samples. /* sample.e */ PROC main() DEF buffer[8000] : ARRAY OF CHAR sample(buffer, 8000) Write(stdout, buffer, 8000) ENDPROC PROC sample(buffer, length) Disable() -> turn off interrupts (is this needed?) -> initialise MOVE.L length,D0 SUBQ.W #1,D0 -> dbcc tests =-1 MOVE.L buffer,A0 MOVE.B #0,$BFE301 -> enable input MOVE.B #6,$BFD200 -> enable channels MOVE.B #2,$BFD000 -> select left channel (4 = right) MOVE.L #$BFE101,A1 -> 7 MHz processor, 22050 kHz sample rate => 324 clock cycles -> all the NOPs below waste 256 cycles loop: MOVE.B (A1),(A0)+ NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; NOP;NOP;NOP;NOP; DBRA.B D0,loop Enable() -> turn on interrupts ENDPROC /* END: sample.e */ Thanks Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 13:03:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20750 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4145 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 17:04:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 4140 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 17:04:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:04:12 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-052.enterprise.net [194.72.196.52]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27717 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:03:37 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:37:09 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > No, you set up an entry in your database for InetD like this: > > Port 453 myprog parameters > > and when someone addresses your system on port 453, it will run your program > and pass the parameters you specify to it, allowing you to make a tcp > connection. So, what would happen? Say I was at IP addy w.x.y.z and someone from a different one called TCP OPEN 1,"w.x.y.z/453" what would happen? Would the program just run whatever? What would it output? How would I then use that to open the connection to the other person? And finally, can I set this up on the fly? I really would not expect people to have to set up about 6 different ports on there own just so they could host a game of James Bond. (thats how many I think I'd need, because trying to do it all with one port would get rather messy I think) I mean, Quake can set up a listening port without messing about like that, so there must be a way? Anyone? 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For details on ONElists NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 14:58:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA32311 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23289 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 18:57:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 23279 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 18:57:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 18:57:48 -0000 Received: from modem-98.prisoner.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.99.226] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DY97-0004Lj-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:58:14 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 19:53:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi Andrew On the 08-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > Your problem is simple, it is the same problem I had while > writing JamesBond: JB rocks by the way! Where can I get the updates? I can't find the main archive on aminet? > Your screen is too big. I thought so. > I'm afraid you're limited to about 640x512, otherwise at a certain > point down the screen almost none of the Amos gfx commands will > work. (as you have found) So how would I do what I want to do then? Say, have a map the same size as the one I have now, only on a 640x512 screen. I ideally wanna stick to lowres. Consequently, instead of using Screen Offset, I'd have to use something else. Has anyone got any formulae, ideas, CODE? (hint hint ;)) would AMOS TOME be any good for this (I'm using Pro, if so, how do I install TOME?) > The only alternative is, I know the Turbo extentions F 16proc > Icon command will work on a screen that big, I have no idea about > bobs though, prehaps the PBOB extention'll work? I have'nt got either of them. Are they freely available? > easy, first you write a level editor, then do this: easy? ;) > See ya. Thanx for the help :) -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Basic airline flying: keep the pointy end forward. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 16:14:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25976 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14007 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 20:14:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13997 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 20:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 20:14:17 -0000 Received: from modem-44.thalium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.40.44] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DZLC-0004TK-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:14:46 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:15:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi Andrew On the 08-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > I guess you'll just have to reduce the map a little? NO can do I'm afraid. GTA style games demand big maps ;) -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you I was? --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 05:44:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17954 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30657 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 30649 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe050.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.206) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11282 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:17 -0000 Received: from 40.ppp3-3.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.75.168) by smtp.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:44:17 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Claude Heiland-Allen Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:18:57 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990731202425.9895.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id FAA17954 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=ĵ)հ䰁 Ց!ɽє4(4(ѥЁյ́ɔٕͱ܀չ́ԁٔ4(AT䁑Չɕͥ4(4)Qչѡ̰ѡЁԀٔATѡՉɕͥ́Ս4)ѕȁѡͥɕ͕ͥ5=Lͥ͸Ё͔ѡATЁ4))Ёѱѥ饹ѥ4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4(8%R좿LӍMDE/쵬ޞ'j׬- j۫zƭ8%[:")zfޮwWڷm wrr{'zXq X߉ȚIemzƊ&& V From nobody Sun Aug 8 15:27:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31790 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28417 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 19:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28408 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 19:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 19:27:00 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-040.enterprise.net [194.72.195.160]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19285 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:27:25 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 20:26:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Your problem is simple, it is the same problem I had while >> writing JamesBond: > > JB rocks by the way! Where can I get the updates? I can't find the > main archive on aminet? My homepage is now the only place you can get it I'm afraid. Thats: http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ >> Your screen is too big. > > I thought so. > >> I'm afraid you're limited to about 640x512, otherwise at a certain >> point down the screen almost none of the Amos gfx commands will >> work. (as you have found) > > So how would I do what I want to do then? Say, have a map the same > size as the one I have now, only on a 640x512 screen. I ideally wanna > stick to lowres. Consequently, instead of using Screen Offset, I'd > have to use something else. Has anyone got any formulae, ideas, CODE? > (hint hint ;)) would AMOS TOME be any good for this (I'm using Pro, if > so, how do I install TOME?) Well, I have a FAST infinite map scrolling routine (50fps on my amiga). Unfortunatly it is too complex for even me to understand propperly, so it's really no use any anyone I'm afraid. (Not even me ;( I can send it to you anyway though, but you have been warned. ;) By the way, apparently TOME is no good I'm afriad. I guess you'll just have to reduce the map a little? >> The only alternative is, I know the Turbo extentions F 16proc >> Icon command will work on a screen that big, I have no idea about >> bobs though, prehaps the PBOB extention'll work? > > I have'nt got either of them. Are they freely available? Turbo is free, off the Amos factory homepage. >> easy, first you write a level editor, then do this: > > easy? ;) Easier then writing the game anyway. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 8 18:26:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00492 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9408 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 22:25:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6505 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 22:24:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 22:24:19 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-25-224.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.224]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14805 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:24:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 08-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > So, what would happen? Say I was at IP addy w.x.y.z and someone from a >different one called TCP OPEN 1,"w.x.y.z/453" what would happen? Well, the inetd would then launch your program, and pass the other person's port data, so you could execute your tcp open command, thus establishing the link. > And finally, can I set this up on the fly? I really would not expect people >to have to set up about 6 different ports on there own just so they could host >a game of James Bond. (thats how many I think I'd need, because trying to do >it all with one port would get rather messy I think) You got me. You'll have to experiment. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 08:19:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02535 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18635 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 12:19:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 18280 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 12:18:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 12:18:41 -0000 Received: from modem-86.tinactin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.89.86] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DoO9-0003EP-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:18:52 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:18:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi Andrew On the 08-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > lod: Rem suproutine for loading. > open in 1,FILENAME$ > For x=0 to sx > for y=0 to sy > input #1,map(x,y) > next > next > close 1 > return Right. I've used a text editor (BED) to create my map file, which looks like this (or part of it does anyway ;) 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 etc. etc. Now, when I try and load that in using the routine above, I get "Input too long at line xx". Now I'm guessing that AMOS is attempting to read the ENTIRE line into the variable. Is there a way of making it retrieve the first character in the line, and then the next, and then the next and so on and so on. I REALLY do not want my map files to look like this 1 1 1 1 1 1 etc. etc. ;) -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* I'm just here for moral support... ignore the gun... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 07:49:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02981 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6648 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 11:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6592 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 11:49:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 11:49:24 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.166]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA64F6 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:55:19 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:50:16 +0100 Message-ID: <002101bee25d$5a51d1a0$a648a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" >From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D [mailto:gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk] >So how would I do what I want to do then? Say, have a map the same >size as the one I have now, only on a 640x512 screen. I ideally wanna >stick to lowres. Consequently, instead of using Screen Offset, I'd >have to use something else. Has anyone got any formulae, ideas, CODE? >(hint hint ;)) would AMOS TOME be any good for this (I'm using Pro, if >so, how do I install TOME?) Check out the Mega MAC Map Maker at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html and for info on how to use it check out some of the source code on the various Mr AMOS Club Disk Magazines which are also available on the same page. Declan, --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 14:02:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12579 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28922 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 18:01:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9506 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 17:35:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 17:35:48 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-007.enterprise.net [194.72.196.7]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA17162 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:36:11 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:50:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> So, what would happen? Say I was at IP addy w.x.y.z and someone from a >> different one called TCP OPEN 1,"w.x.y.z/453" what would happen? > > Well, the inetd would then launch your program, and pass the other person's > port data, so you could execute your tcp open command, thus establishing the > link. Yuch, there has to be a better way? Anyway, wouldn't the other persons TCP request just bomb out with a timeout error? Or would it work? Also, could I get it to lanch the Echo command and have it print the details to ram and have my program pick them up? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as his car got in the way of an on-comming Boing 737 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 14:16:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05367 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14169 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 18:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 7121 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 18:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web902.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 18:05:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990809180346.9322.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.144.249] by web902.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:03:46 BST Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:03:46 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- Andrew Crowe wrote: > > Well, the inetd would then launch your program, > > Also, could I get it to lanch the Echo command and > have it print the details to ram and have my program > pick them up? ... and with file notification your program would find out immediately. Claude (Feeling smug at his cunning ideas...) _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 15:04:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08917 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 514 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 19:04:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 939 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 17:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 17:35:21 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-007.enterprise.net [194.72.196.7]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA17075 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:35:45 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:35:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 > 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 > 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 > etc. etc. Now, when I try and load that in using the routine above, I > get "Input too long at line xx". Now I'm guessing that AMOS is > attempting to read the ENTIRE line into the variable. Is there a way > of making it retrieve the first character in the line, and then the > next, and then the next and so on and so on. you could load them as strings, but you'd have to set Bed to save as LF+CR or AMOS won't accept it. That would be one way of doing it > I REALLY do not want my map files to look like this > > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 Well, if you have a map editor then it wouldn't matter what the save format was like.... (Once you have a map editor you can develope a compressed format etc.) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he made fun of Chris Ubanks lisp for the last time. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 15:12:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13207 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28543 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 19:12:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6738 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 18:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 18:53:33 -0000 Received: from du-30.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.30]:1617 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:52:51 +0300 Message-ID: <002f01bee298$81a78b60$1ec7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:52:12 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi all, just have to tell you that the Pinball Construction Kit ([pre-]beta) is finally seeing light:D It's going to be so good that I'm trying to $ell it somewhere - actually never thought that it could work at all:P There's an one 'little' problem - Aga-support; At the mo PCK uses 32-colours which is essential for speed and reasonable memory usage, but I have to update it (at least later) to use Agas 256 colours. One possibility is to rewrite PCK to Blitz but I really don't want to do that 'cause I've used mainly Amal - it would be pain:((( The best solution should be the AmosNG but nothing has happened for ages, or has it? So, what's up with it, Pietro (are you on this list anymore?)? Peter, where's your Aga-extension? I really want to stick with amos but it seems that there's no other way:( - hope you see my point... There's other thing; I need more beta-testers with different configs. At the moment there are only Andy (H), Christopher and Palle who has promised to help me out:| [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 15:57:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01568 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29893 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 19:57:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12858 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 18:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 18:21:06 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-007.enterprise.net [194.72.196.7]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25859 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:20:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:19:57 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990809180346.9322.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Also, could I get it to lanch the Echo command and >> have it print the details to ram and have my program >> pick them up? > > ... and with file notification your program would find > out immediately. I don't want it to actually run the program if someone wants to connect though, that would be very annoying if you didn't want to have a game, I just want it to tell the program, when the program is on the title screen, so that it can open a connection then. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he turned the microwave oven on, from the inside. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElists NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 22:31:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA27051 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18150 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 02:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16380 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 00:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 00:29:14 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.134.155] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A278E51002C; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:29:44 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:14:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002f01bee298$81a78b60$1ec7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Sasu On 09-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: "Sasu Lintula" > > Hi all, > > just have to tell you that the Pinball Construction Kit ([pre-]beta) is > finally seeing light:D It's going to be so good that I'm trying to $ell it > somewhere - actually never thought that it could work at all:P > > There's other thing; I need more beta-testers with different configs. At > the moment there are only Andy (H), Christopher and Palle who has promised > to help me out:| My system is Amiga 1200 68050/50 Viper Mk 5 and 8MB Ram, is this any use to you?> > [Sasu Lintula] > regards roger --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElists NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 9 23:44:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25953 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18233 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 03:43:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 29655 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 01:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shelob.ecc.tased.edu.au) (147.41.65.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 01:59:24 -0000 Received: from [147.41.128.135] by shelob.ecc.tased.edu.au; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20May98-1029AM) id AA07700; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:59:56 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990810115903.00886dd0@vision.net.au> X-Sender: ender@vision.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:59:03 +1000 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" In-Reply-To: References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] Searching for Niall.. :) Status: O X-Status: From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" Heyas, Has anyone got a copy of Niall? I remember I had it on a coverdisk, but I seem to have lost it :) It's a AI Eliza'ish program, but it acually learns words as you give it sentances. Cheers :) Ender James Brown == Ender/Amigo == Ender@vision.net.au Sys Admin/Programmer: ADM Development (Http://www.admdev.com) Sys Admin/Webmaster: ERA Online (Http://www.animorphs.org.au) Coder of: EasyCuts, QuakeMovie, CoopWorld, Castle Forte, CBATNAM Member of the Litestep Developent team <> Taz-Mania, Australia Arch-Wizard: AniMoo <> Wizard: AnsibleMoo --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 00:33:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA05695 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31780 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 04:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 22156 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 03:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.sosbbs.com) (204.186.168.100) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 03:42:20 -0000 Received: from computerinother (206.28.246.101) by mailhost.sosbbs.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000701bee2e6$1e6bf6a0$65f61cce@computerinother> From: "Garfield Benjamin" To: "AMOS MAILING LIST" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:09:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] The king lives... Status: O X-Status: From: "Garfield Benjamin" Hello. This is just a quick message to let you all know that the king (me dammit, not Elvis!!!) is alive. LOL So, what ever happened to CBATNAM?! My Amiga is packed in a box back in Pennsylvania (I am now living in Missouri) so I cannot do much to help but I am quite sure I have the .lha archive for my stage! Thinking about putting it on my website. What about the rest of you guys? Hell, at least if we did that people could enjoy the work we putinto this thing!! Garfield --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 02:52:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02625 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8023 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 06:52:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7923 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net) (203.108.7.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from shayol-ghul (slmlb33p50.ozemail.com.au [210.84.137.50]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12.IPASS) with SMTP id QAA15366 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:52:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990810165221.008aa140@pop.wow.aust.com> X-Sender: adam%templeton.wow.aust.com@pop.wow.aust.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:52:21 +1000 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Dragonstar In-Reply-To: References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Dragonstar At 12:18 09/08/1999 +0100, you wrote: >From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D > >Hi Andrew >On the 08-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > >> lod: Rem suproutine for loading. >> open in 1,FILENAME$ >> For x=0 to sx >> for y=0 to sy >> input #1,map(x,y) >> next >> next >> close 1 >> return > >Right. I've used a text editor (BED) to create my map file, which >looks like this (or part of it does anyway ;) > >11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 >11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 >11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 > A couple of years ago I was writing a game that used mapdata and I found a way to store the map as hex in a file. the map[ can be up to any size you want it (mine was 512x512) and took up one meg of hard disk space so if this interest you can you please send me a message and I'll send to code with an explanation of how to use it to you. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 06:29:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05861 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7813 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 10:28:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13793 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 10:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 10:00:42 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990810100050.KEPS25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:00:50 +0200 Message-ID: <37AFEAD3.A1D88286@home.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:03:15 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <3.0.6.32.19990810115903.00886dd0@vision.net.au> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Searching for Niall.. :) Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" wrote: > > From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" > > Heyas, > Has anyone got a copy of Niall? I remember I had it on a coverdisk, but I > seem > to have lost it :) Yep, I found it years ago on the AMOS PD CD. > It's a AI Eliza'ish program, but it acually learns words as you give it > sentances. We also had lots of fun with it :) I'll look it up and will hopefully email it to you today. -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amiga, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://www.altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 06:09:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA01955 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19445 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 10:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19431 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 10:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 10:09:21 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990810100905.KERB25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:09:05 +0200 Message-ID: <37AFECC2.E034EC17@home.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:11:30 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong Gaz-JD/FX-s^D wrote: > > From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D > > Hi Andrew > On the 08-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! > so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > > > lod: Rem suproutine for loading. > > open in 1,FILENAME$ > > For x=0 to sx > > for y=0 to sy > > input #1,map(x,y) > > next > > next > > close 1 > > return > > Right. I've used a text editor (BED) to create my map file, which > looks like this (or part of it does anyway ;) > > 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 > 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 > 11122222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222111 > > etc. etc. Now, when I try and load that in using the routine above, I > get "Input too long at line xx". Now I'm guessing that AMOS is > attempting to read the ENTIRE line into the variable. Is there a way Even worse :). It want to load your whole file in the variable. AMOS usually uses 2 characters to tell when the line end, but standard Amiga texteditors use only 1. To use normal textfiles you got to tell AMOS to use the normal Amiga textfiles standard: Set Input 10,-1 But you also got to do something about the fact it loads the complete line. (And I think you switched the X and Y too... The horizontal lines in the texteditor are vertical lines in your program?) The best way is to do: Set Input 10,-1 Open In 1,FILENAME$ For Y=0 To SY Line Input #1,MYLINE$ For X=0 To SX MAP(X,Y)=MID$(MYLINE$,X,1) Next X Next Y I havn't tested it but it should work :). -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amiga, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://www.altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 13:21:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08234 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29724 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 17:21:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29313 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 17:21:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 17:21:03 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11EFaR-000AqZ-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:21:20 +0000 Message-ID: <006f01bee354$ce7848a0$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: <000701bee2e6$1e6bf6a0$65f61cce@computerinother> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:12:01 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] The king lives.../CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > This is just a quick message to let you all know that the king > (me dammit, not Elvis!!!) is alive. LOL Greetings living one with possible delusions.. > So, what ever happened to CBATNAM?! > My Amiga is packed in a box back in Pennsylvania (I am now > living in Missouri) so I cannot do much to help but I am quite > sure I have the .lha archive for my stage! Thinking about > putting it on my website. > What about the rest of you guys? Hell, at least if we did > that people could enjoy the work we putinto this thing!! Yeah, a real good point. Current state of it: Levels (mostly) complete, combined code debugging and strapping together under way(cough), and the sound is dead wierd - but I think with CD-sound it'll be problem solved. The game will be available on CD, or as a massive download as soon as possible, but with the current state of my stuff, it seems to be one delay after another. Maybe I should get amos installed on the emulator (cough). Giark, if you are listening, any high-quality sampled sound (don't care what format, as long as I can read it) and to any other members, if there is anything outstanding, SEND IT to me, and we'll drag it out. This has been too long a time waiting and would be nice to finally see it in one go. In the mean time, the more you pester me to get it put together, the more likley it becomes, and the more submissions (you know who you are) the more likley it becomes. A *LOT* of work has gone into it already, it would be nice to see things in the final finished form. I will dig up the traces on the various machines they inhabit and re-assemble things as soon as I have a chance. Why is it I get bored, but still have a hundred things to do ? The CD case is already designed though.... ..etc. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 14:22:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05333 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25128 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 18:22:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18745 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 18:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 18:16:52 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-27-72.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.72]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07660 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:17:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Keith Hill Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006f01bee354$ce7848a0$0200a8c0@defiant> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 10-Aug-99, Keith Hill wrote: >Yeah, a real good point. Current state of it: Levels (mostly) complete, >combined code debugging and strapping together under way(cough), and the >sound is dead wierd - but I think with CD-sound it'll be problem solved. I still have all the data that was sent to me. I think you have it as well. Whatever happened to all the artists that were doing pics? One after another, they volunteer, then disappear. >The game will be available on CD, or as a massive download as soon as >possible, but with the current state of my stuff, it seems to be one delay >after another. Maybe I should get amos installed on the emulator (cough). I had a system of intro setup thing sort of kind of like, but my artist disappeared. It was a cool intro, too. >Giark, if you are listening, any high-quality sampled sound (don't care what >format, as long as I can read it) Like what? I thought we had all the sound covered. BTW, my intro was a complete Cap'n bubba intro story, shown on a tv screen with cool japanime effects. Damn artists! Get back here! >In the mean time, the more you pester me to get it put together, the more >likley it becomes, Pester pester bo bester banana fana fo fester me my mo mester pester >and the more submissions (you know who you are) Artwork!!!!! >A *LOT* of work has gone into it already, Huge amounts. Anyone know where EJ Slypen went? >it would be >nice to see things in the final finished form. Yup. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Molly Jones This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 10 17:46:09 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13402 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17459 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 21:45:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20023 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 21:24:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.xs4all.nl) (194.109.127.49) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 21:24:33 -0000 Received: from xs4all.nl (dc2-modem2092.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.136.44]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03080 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:24:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <37B09A31.37492502@xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:31:30 +0200 From: Michel Bijlsma X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] unsubscribe Status: O X-Status: From: Michel Bijlsma unsubscribe --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! 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Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 02:08:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA23641 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13016 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 06:08:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 13011 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 06:08:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tantalum.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.80) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 06:08:15 -0000 Received: from host5-171-228-251.btinternet.com ([195.171.228.251] helo=btinternet.com) by tantalum.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11ERYb-0000aB-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:08:13 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:06:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: I want JB Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello All On 02-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > woah no, I'm sorry, I can't upload 4 megs to the damn Tripod server, > I'd be there all day! What you can do, is use this program (from aminet). > Its a PC file splitter, that way you can use it to split the game up on > the PC, then copy it to disks and re-join it with, say, MuiJoin on your > amiga. I have done this and just used the Amigas append command to join the split files back together. Works fine. > > Get FSplit from: > > http://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/misc/emu/fsplit.zip > > See ya. Regards -- --------------- NEIL IVES [HomeMade Software] MALVERN UK --------------- Amiga owners do it before the PC has finished booting. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 05:44:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15722 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4379 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 4362 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe050.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.206) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:44:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11301 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 1999 09:44:19 -0000 Received: from 40.ppp3-3.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.75.168) by smtp.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:44:19 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:40:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 08-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >sav: Rem suproutine for saving. > open out 1,FILENAME$ > For x=0 to sx > for y=0 to sy > Print #1,map(x,y) > next > next > close 1 >return This would create a file consisting of ascii-strings seperated by linefeeds. A bit unprofessional, I would say. Better to use: 'sx:size-x ; sy:size-y dim map(SX-1,SY-1) ' (editor here) End sav: open out 1,filename$ sprint 1,varptr(map(0,0)) to varptr(map(0,0))+sy*sx*4 close 1 return lod: open in 1,filename$ sload 1 to varptr(map(0,0)),sy*sx*4 close 1 return Which creates a raw file containg sy*sx longwords. -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 05:58:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20355 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24598 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24589 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe050.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.206) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19209 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:53 -0000 Received: from 4.ppp3-1.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.75.4) by smtp.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:58:53 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Keith Hill Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:55:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005d01bed89b$625ac940$0200a8c0@defiant> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 28-Jul-99, Keith Hill wrote: >I would love to see a tough amiga that can play cricket with the best >peecees. >Preferably in an online deathmatch.. Take a look at an A500. Ask the A500 to show a VBl-timed animation syncronized to some sampled music. Then ask the PeeCee to do the same. The A500 would win. -- Rune Zedeler Rydevnget 3,3th 8210 rhus V Denmark rune@zedeler.dk Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 05:59:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA30338 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10618 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10606 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe050.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.206) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:58:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 19224 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 1999 09:58:54 -0000 Received: from 4.ppp3-1.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.75.4) by smtp.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 09:58:54 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Claude Heiland-Allen Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990731202425.9895.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 31-Jul-99, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: >Floating point numbers are very slow (unless you have >an FPU). Especially double precision. The funny thing is, that if you /do/ have an FPU then double precision is much faster than single precision (see, AMOS single doesn't use the FPU at all) Just a little optimizing tip :) -- Rune Zedeler Rydevnget 3,3th 8210 rhus V Denmark rune@zedeler.dk Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 14:13:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20801 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12627 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 18:13:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12587 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 18:13:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 18:13:34 -0000 Received: from vmadd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.73.170]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11EcsX-00006e-0K for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:13:34 +0000 Received: from vmadd ([127.0.0.1]) by vmadd.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NetNow!/3.0.0.999) id VMDD32112604 for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bee425$2880b8c0$aa49989e@vmadd> From: "Dwayne Heaton" To: References: <002f01bee298$81a78b60$1ec7e882@samali> <37B1C111.FB23186B@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:13:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Hops: 1 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: "Dwayne Heaton" > > There's an one 'little' problem - Aga-support; At the mo PCK uses 32-colours which is essential for speed and reasonable memory usage, but I have to update it (at least later) to use Agas 256 colours. One possibility is to rewrite PCK to Blitz but I really don't want to do that 'cause I've used mainly Amal - it would be pain:((( The best solution should be the AmosNG but nothing has happened for ages, or has it? So, what's up with it, Pietro (are you on this list anymore?)? Peter, where's your Aga-extension? Amos NG is being released this september.. it will be freeware and downloadable from the web site.. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 13:27:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28236 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14418 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 17:24:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14356 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 17:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 17:23:59 -0000 Received: from gpo1.mail.iol.ie (gpo1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.198]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03202 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:23:35 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0372.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.116]) by gpo1.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA30628 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:23:33 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo1.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37B1C111.FB23186B@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:29:37 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <002f01bee298$81a78b60$1ec7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Sasu Lintula wrote: > > From: "Sasu Lintula" > > Hi all, > > just have to tell you that the Pinball Construction Kit ([pre-]beta) is finally seeing light:D It's going to be so good that I'm trying to $ell it somewhere - actually never thought that it could work at all:P > > There's an one 'little' problem - Aga-support; At the mo PCK uses 32-colours which is essential for speed and reasonable memory usage, but I have to update it (at least later) to use Agas 256 colours. One possibility is to rewrite PCK to Blitz but I really don't want to do that 'cause I've used mainly Amal - it would be pain:((( The best solution should be the AmosNG but nothing has happened for ages, or has it? So, what's up with it, Pietro (are you on this list anymore?)? Peter, where's your Aga-extension? > I really want to stick with amos but it seems that there's no other way:( - hope you see my point... My extension did RTG too, but I canceled it cos noone liked GMS, and the entire extension was based on it. There was a pre beta out, it only did basic pixel handling, iff loading, p61 support and a few other bits. Before it was out I did have bobs working, but I had a new, better design for how it should handle them, so I removed my old bob code and started to code the new ideas I had for the bobs, that was when it was canceled, so the pre-release beta never did do bobs. But it fully did AGa on all of its commands, and they were all much faster than the amos equivilents(like much much much faster :). After the prebeta I pretty much stopped it altogeather cos of all of the GMS moans, I remember adding c2ps into it, they used EBH and got 47.3fps. on my 030. But I never released them. As for pietro, I think his amiga has died completely. I remember he was having trouble with it a few months ago. If you like, Ill contact the other members of the Amos NG group to find out about it ? cyas, -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 14:46:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04885 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29464 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 18:46:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29406 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 18:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 18:46:38 -0000 Received: from vmadd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.73.170]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11EdO0-0002nV-0K for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:46:04 +0000 Received: from vmadd ([127.0.0.1]) by vmadd.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NetNow!/3.0.0.999) id VMDD32112613 for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:45:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001301bee429$b2c50140$aa49989e@vmadd> From: "Dwayne Heaton" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:45:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Hops: 1 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: "Dwayne Heaton" > > Amos NG is being released this september.. it will be freeware and > > downloadable from the web site.. > > I thought it was due /last/ september.... Are you sure that this time it's for real? :) That's what Pietro Ghizzoni told me in a message about amos.. I'm looking for the amos pro compiler, can anyone send it to me (I also understand that it also updates AMOS Pro 1.12 to AMOS Pro 2.00) and last, but not lease, does anyone know of an online version of the AMOS Pro manual? I lost mine in a move.. Other that that, can anyone recommend any essential extensions.. BTW - James Bond rocks.. even on my PII 333 ;-) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 14:29:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27733 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3019 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 18:29:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2711 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 18:29:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 18:29:07 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-045.enterprise.net [194.72.197.45]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01607 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:29:10 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:28:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000801bee425$2880b8c0$aa49989e@vmadd> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Amos NG is being released this september.. it will be freeware and > downloadable from the web site.. I thought it was due /last/ september.... Are you sure that this time it's for real? :) Also, (if it is really going to happen) how portable is it? Any chance of a port to the AmigaNG, or ever PC/Mac? (just think, it could become *the* beginers language across the systems ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he built a glove with knives for fingers. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 16:06:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12849 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18003 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 20:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 17913 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 20:07:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 20:07:20 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA83797 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:06:42 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0325.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.69]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43001 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:06:41 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37B1E74E.2AB8E1AB@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:12:46 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's up with AmosNG? Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > > Amos NG is being released this september.. it will be freeware and > > downloadable from the web site.. > > I thought it was due /last/ september.... Are you sure that this time it's for real? :) I dont want to shatter your expectations, but I honestly doubt a release this september. That couldnt have been last september cos the sources wernt even released then. > Also, (if it is really going to happen) how portable is it? Any chance of a port to the AmigaNG, or ever PC/Mac? > (just think, it could become *the* beginers language across the systems ;) True, but also dont forget Jama3d, although its probably 3d only (some part of the name sort of suggested that to me :). It claims to have linux & MaC ports planned. If it is going to happen, it will be quite portable. Of course, most of the compiler, and gfx/sfx handling routines probably wont be. cyas, -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 11 19:13:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA12421 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 420 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 23:13:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 133 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-035.enterprise.net [194.72.196.35]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA22213 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:12:54 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:12:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Well, anyhow, if you do get it running, if you could send me some example >> networking code please? :) > > Will do. bug me occasionally. Ok, how are the TCP stuff comming? how are the TCP stuff comming? Have you worked out InetD, 'cos it seems you can't simply stick a port down, you have to do a loada other stuff in Services menu and IneD's menu and probably some more stuff as well... PPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE say there is an easier way, PPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE! See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Mel Blanc, the voice of Bugs Bunny, was allergic to carrots. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 08:05:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23105 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23169 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 12:05:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23161 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 12:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 12:05:21 -0000 Received: from vmadd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.73.170]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Etbz-000FbK-0C for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:05:36 +0000 Received: from vmadd ([127.0.0.1]) by vmadd.demon.co.uk with SMTP (NetNow!/3.0.0.999) id VMDD3229269C for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:05:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bee4ba$e90017e0$aa49989e@vmadd> From: "Dwayne Heaton" To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:05:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Hops: 1 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] AmosNG Status: O X-Status: From: "Dwayne Heaton" This is part of the message I received from Pietro Ghizzoni about AMOS.. >From: Pietro Ghizzoni >Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:57:38 +0200 > > Roughly when during the summer is it going to be released? will it be all > > the disks? and will it be the same version or updated? > >A bit delayed.. the official release is the 18-19 September at the Pianeta >Amiga fair here in italy. > >The release will be freeware, and available on-line on our site. > >It will be a reorganised AMOSPro distribution, with MANY new features added >trough our extensions. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 08:19:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07516 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14821 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 12:19:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 13834 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 12:18:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 12:18:14 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA18178 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:17:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-t1-60.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.196.60]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA25096 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:17:51 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:17:48 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000b01bee4ba$e90017e0$aa49989e@vmadd> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: AmosNG Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler >> The release will be freeware, and available on-line on our >> site. >> It will be a reorganised AMOSPro distribution, with MANY new >> features added trough our extensions. I think there is no doubt that AMOSProNG is THE most eagerly awaited AMOS-related program...... not to put any further pressure on the release date, mind ;) -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central Quote of the day: ----------------- You can't say civilisation don't advance... In every war they kill you in a new way. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 13:20:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28449 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9085 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 17:21:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9036 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 17:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 17:21:22 -0000 Received: from du-14.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.14]:1039 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:20:44 +0300 Message-ID: <002401bee4e6$aa6f8980$0ec7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:16:46 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] Re: AmosNG Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, >>> The release will be freeware, and available on-line on our >>> site. >>> It will be a reorganised AMOSPro distribution, with MANY new >>> features added trough our extensions. > >I think there is no doubt that AMOSProNG is THE most eagerly >awaited AMOS-related program...... not to put any further pressure >on the release date, mind ;) > GrOovYy:D [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 17:52:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23797 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16690 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 21:53:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16684 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 21:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 21:53:12 -0000 Received: from modem-64.glucophage.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.69.192] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11F2ly-0003ll-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:52:30 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi Rune On the 11-Aug-99 you said something about Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > sav: > open out 1,filename$ > sprint 1,varptr(map(0,0)) to varptr(map(0,0))+sy*sx*4 > close 1 > return > > lod: > open in 1,filename$ > sload 1 to varptr(map(0,0)),sy*sx*4 > close 1 > return That's all well and good, and I tahnk you for the suggestion, but unfortunately SPrint and SLoad don't tokenise. Is it part of an extension? Don't say AMCAF please, because I have that installed! A file of ASCII's would be unprofessional yes, and I have no idea how to go about making my own file format! -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Just walk to the east....until your hat floats. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 14:06:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13948 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15298 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 18:06:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 15251 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 18:06:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web901.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 18:06:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990812180253.17818.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.144.95] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:02:53 BST Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:02:53 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- Andrew Crowe wrote: > >> Also, could I get it to lanch the Echo command and > >> have it print the details to ram and have my program > >> pick them up? > > > > ... and with file notification your program would find > > out immediately. > > I don't want it to actually run the program if > someone wants to connect though, that would be very > annoying if you didn't want to have a game, That's why AmigaOS file notification would be useful here: 1:Your program asks the OS to be notified when a file (say ENV:mynotifyfile) is modified. 2:InetD (or whatever) starts a program that modifies the file. 3:The OS sends a message to your program telling it the file has been changed. (3) only happens if you did (1) before (2) happens. (File notification is part of AmigaOS 2.04+ I think) Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 14:35:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20125 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6187 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 18:35:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5365 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 18:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.supernet.com) (204.249.184.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 18:34:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 30027 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 18:36:26 -0000 Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (qmailr@204.249.184.36) by smtp1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 18:36:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20138 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 18:35:00 -0000 Received: from c0-6.pm4-1.harrisburg.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.191.69) by mail1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 18:35:00 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990812143458.007e5a90@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:34:58 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] F1 Software Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" For those of you who haven't heard just yet, I purchased F1 Software, 5th Dimension licenseware, and all of Phil's other Amiga pieces and copyrights whilst I was in the last stages of my trip to England. Later on today, I will be releasing a large(ish) press release regarding the whole matter, so you can read about a lot more stuff there. The URL will be http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1purchase.html for those interested, it should be up later today. Over the course of the next few weeks, I would like to introduce a lot more software into the library, and that's why im mailing here first. All of my current best-selling titles have been written in AMOS, and are currently making their programmers a lot of money. I know that there are a lot of you here on the list writing new games, utilities and internet app's, and if some of you are interested in making a lot of royalties from your work, then email me and talk to me. I would like to see a working version of your program. I strongly beleive in AMOS as most of you know, and would still like to see a lot of good quality games written in it. If anyone has any questions or queriers, feel free to email me at mushypd@redrose.net. If you know anyone interested in getting their work published who isn't on this list, then forward this mail to them. Thanks. Andy Kellett Operator/Owner F1 Software and 5th Dimension Licenseware -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 18:11:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28860 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25749 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 22:10:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25728 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 22:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 22:10:37 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990812221105.KXOA25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:11:05 +0200 Message-ID: <37B338FC.EC1FEF5C@home.nl> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:13:32 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong Gaz-JD/FX-s^D wrote: > > From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D > > Hi Rune > On the 11-Aug-99 you said something about Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > > > sav: > > open out 1,filename$ > > sprint 1,varptr(map(0,0)) to varptr(map(0,0))+sy*sx*4 > > close 1 > > return > > > > lod: > > open in 1,filename$ > > sload 1 to varptr(map(0,0)),sy*sx*4 > > close 1 > > return > > That's all well and good, and I tahnk you for the suggestion, but > unfortunately SPrint and SLoad don't tokenise. Is it part of an > extension? Don't say AMCAF please, because I have that installed! > A file of ASCII's would be unprofessional yes, and I have no idea how > to go about making my own file format! SLoad and SSave (sprint doesn't exist!) are normal AMOSPro commands. -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amiga, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://www.altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 19:01:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA21797 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13618 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 23:02:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 13609 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 23:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp6.mindspring.com) (207.69.200.74) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 23:02:39 -0000 Received: from sprynet.com (hil-qbu-ppu-vty17.as.wcom.net [209.154.55.17]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA31128 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Griffith To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:03:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37B338FC.EC1FEF5C@home.nl> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Lacking; Does not play well with others. Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Status: O X-Status: From: Richard Griffith On 12-Aug-99, Mark de Jong wrote: > Gaz-JD/FX-s^D wrote: >> unfortunately SPrint and SLoad don't tokenise. Is it part of an >> extension? Don't say AMCAF please, because I have that installed! > SLoad and SSave (sprint doesn't exist!) are normal AMOSPro commands. Actually, SLoad and SSave are part of the music extension. The 'S' was for Sample, to use for double buffered sample playing, but they are very handy for many other things, too. -Richard --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 12 22:35:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA27737 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21418 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 02:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 21391 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 02:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.supernet.com) (204.249.184.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 02:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16198 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 02:36:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (qmailr@204.249.184.36) by smtp1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 02:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 30882 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 02:35:25 -0000 Received: from c2-49.pm4-1.harrisburg.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.187.112) by mail1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 02:35:25 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990812223523.007e5100@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:35:23 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] Offtopic: reviewers Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" Is ther anyone out there interested in reviewing some games for my website? I don't have much time to do many reviews and would like for others to help me along a bit. Please contact me if you wish to be helpful. Thanks. Andy Kellett -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 13 09:45:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26957 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9907 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 13:45:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9839 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 13:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 13:45:33 -0000 Received: from bc.protactinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.127] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11FHdt-0008P8-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:45:09 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Thanx Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi, Cheers to Andrew (Crowe), Rune and anyone who helped me with that map editor prob. Special thanx go to Andrew for fixing the goddamn thing ;) Cheers Rune for that map loader/saver, and thanx to whoever it was who pointed out that it was SSave and not SPrint. I can't reember his name, because all mails go straight to deleted items on my system (unless they are REALLY, MEGA, important ;) Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Some choose not to waste their hormones growing hair. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Molly Jones This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 13 09:24:55 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17130 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19812 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 13:24:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19304 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 13:23:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe050.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.206) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 13:23:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4673 invoked by uid 0); 13 Aug 1999 13:24:08 -0000 Received: from 42.ppp3-7.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.70.42) by mail030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 13:24:08 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:21:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: What's wrong with this! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id JAA17130 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=ȵ՜䰁)`yɽє4(4(QН́ݕ$хԁȁѡ՝ѥ4(չչѕMAɥЁM1Ёѽ͔%́ЁЁ4(4)]̸4)MɥЁ͡ձٔMٔͅͽ4)ɔԁɔѡЁMЁѽ%Ё͸Ёѕͥ4(4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4(8%R좿LӍMDE/쵬ޞ'j׬- j۫zƭ8%[:")zfޮwWڷm wrr{'zXq X߉ȚIemzƊ&& V From nobody Fri Aug 13 15:31:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09294 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22734 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 19:31:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22689 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from default (host5-171-231-162.btinternet.com [195.171.231.162]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15663 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:31:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000f01bee5c2$8ac90ac0$a2e7abc3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:30:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Appending Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric Molyneux" Hi All, Eric here (old wrinkly). Regards to splitting files on the PC with "FSplit" I have done this, as I was sent Imagine and couldn't fit it on floppies. It split the file okay and had imagine.ca1 - .ca4 and imagine.fsi. I could not find the append command in WB 3 or 2, so I was unable to use the files. I did try the "Join" command and although it joined the files to one, it would not run. Firstly, where is the append command to be had and secondly, what am I doing wrong. Thanks. Old Wrinkly. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations IM-USA, our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 13 16:08:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25222 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2257 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 20:07:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1923 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-024.enterprise.net [194.72.196.144]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA21466 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:08:11 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:07:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01bee5c2$8ac90ac0$a2e7abc3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Appending Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I did try the "Join" command and although it > joined the files to one, it would not run. What do you mean it wouldn't run? What error message did Lha give? Also, if in doubt, download MUIJoin or simmilar from aminet and use that :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own, -- Ace of Base --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 13 19:23:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11970 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27587 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 23:22:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27577 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 23:22:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 23:22:48 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.174] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB1B48A0126; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:24:27 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:02:12 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.2014615560.10" Subject: [amos-list] Amos with comms example/program! Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.2014615560.10 Content-Type: text/plain To whoever asked about amos and comms, Can't remember but someone wanted info about using Amos with a modem. Don't know if the persons question was answered but heres a program I wrote a few years ago for when Sysops have to repair their BBSes and need a message system setup. The colours don't show because at the time I didn't realise how to show them but now I know. Hope this is of some use or whatever... Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --BOUNDARY.2014615560.10 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Offline.amos" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Offline.amos" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 QU1PUyBCYXNpYyBWMTM0IAAAM3gLAQZSAA4gT2ZmbGluZSBWMS4wIAAACgEGUgAMIFBlbiAx IC0gUmVkAAALAQZSAA4gUGVuIDIgLSBHcmVlbgAADAEGUgAQIFBlbiAzIC0gWWVsbG93IAAA CwEGUgAOIFBlbiA0IC0gQmx1ZSAAAAwBBlIAECBQZW4gNSAtIFB1cnBsZSAAAA4BBlIAFCBQ ZW4gNiAtIExpZ2h0IEJsdWUgAAALAQZSAA4gUGVuIDcgLSBXaGl0ZQAABQEGUgACICAAAAYB BP4APgAAAFoAAAkBBlIACkJyZWFrIE9mZiAAAAMBFxoAABYBCeoAPgAAAAAAXAA+AAACgABc AD4AAAEAAFwAPgAAAAgAXAyEAFQNNAAAMAEVyAA+AAAAAABcAD4AAAAAAFwAPgAAAAAAXAA+ AAAAAABcAD4AAAAAAFwAPgAAAAAAXAA+AAAAAABcAD4AAAD/AFQT3AA+AAAAAABUC64AVB3g AFQT0gA+AAAABwAAFQEABgAABAJsaW4A/6IFUgB0AD4AAAAKAHz/wAVSAHQAPgAAAA0AfAAA 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+0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Question Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" Anyone know anything about the Commodore 64 Internet machine I saw on QVC the other night ? All I know is that it exists. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 05:21:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA05585 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21186 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 09:21:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21152 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 09:21:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 09:21:20 -0000 Received: from modem-34.chromium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.11.162] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Fa0F-00015X-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:21:27 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:22:22 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00d101bee630$c47b82c0$0200a8c0@defiant> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: JokerD/FX Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Question Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi Keith On the 14-Aug-99 you said something about [amos-list] Question so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) > Anyone know anything about the Commodore 64 Internet machine I saw on QVC > the other night ? The C64 WebIT? Its not COmmodore I don't think, they just used C64 so people could associate with it. I think its a 64-bit (no shit) machine, with full net capabilities. But, like most 8-bit systems of old, it relies on interrupts for sound (j/k) :) > All I know is that it exists. Yea, and at a hefty price as welll! -- --= *Gareth Griffiths* =-- gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk A1200/030, 18Mb RAM, HD/CD "Bother," said Pooh, as Eeyore sneezed the crack all over Owl... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 05:25:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22540 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21264 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 09:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21256 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 09:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO praseodumium.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.82) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 09:25:36 -0000 Received: from host5-171-252-183.btinternet.com ([195.171.252.183] helo=btinternet.com) by praseodumium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Fa4J-0000kG-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:25:39 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:25:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01bee5c2$8ac90ac0$a2e7abc3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Joining Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello Eric On 13-Aug-99, you wrote: > I did try the "Join" command and although it > joined the files to one, it would not run. Firstly, where is the append > command to be had and secondly, what am I doing wrong. > Thanks. > Old Wrinkly. > Oh dear, I'm sorry. I obviously shouldn't rely on my memory anymore (too many drugs in the 60's!). 'Join' is what I was thinking of, I dont know why I thought it was append. I have done this operation successfully. I used Split on the PC. Make sure that you join the files in the correct order. The command template is Join fileA fileB AS fileC. Note no commas between file names. Are you sure of the final file name? -- --------------- NEIL IVES [HomeMade Software] MALVERN UK --------------- Amiga owner who needs a new memory implant --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 07:59:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18335 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1807 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 11:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 1794 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 11:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 11:58:47 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.134.23] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9C1137900A0; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:57:53 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:42:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Joining Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Neil On 14-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Neil Ives > > Hello Eric > > On 13-Aug-99, you wrote: > >> I did try the "Join" command and although it >> joined the files to one, it would not run. Firstly, where is the append >> command to be had and secondly, what am I doing wrong. >> Thanks. >> Old Wrinkly. >> > > Oh dear, I'm sorry. I obviously shouldn't rely on my memory anymore (too > many drugs in the 60's!). 'Join' is what I was thinking of, I dont know > why I thought it was append. > I have done this operation successfully. I used Split on the PC. Make sure > that you join the files in the correct order. The command template is Join > fileA fileB AS fileC. Note no commas between file names. Are you sure of > the final file name? > The memory loss is probably triggered by word association problems like Join/Joint and Split/Spliff. Oh dear back to the Camberwell Carrots again. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem and Citizen Swift Printer. Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 11:46:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23339 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32530 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 15:45:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 32500 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 15:45:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.36) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 15:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 16795 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 15:45:52 -0000 Received: from port2-17.lancaster.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (205.246.83.113) by mail1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 15:45:52 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990814114547.0080ada0@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:45:47 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" In-Reply-To: <00d101bee630$c47b82c0$0200a8c0@defiant> References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" At 09:35 AM 8/14/99 +0100, you wrote: >From: "Keith Hill" > >Anyone know anything about the Commodore 64 Internet machine I saw on QVC >the other night ? > >All I know is that it exists. > You can use a regular C64 on the internet via a shell account. A couple of guys I talk to on IRC use their C64's online, its quite amazing! Andy K -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 16:20:02 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07345 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28519 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 20:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28505 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 20:19:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 20:19:06 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990814201932.LKCD25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:19:32 +0200 Message-ID: <37B5C1DC.3417FF75@home.nl> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:22:04 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <003601bee68e$cbba95e0$652f63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Joing & Appending Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong Eric Molyneux wrote: > > From: "Eric Molyneux" > > Thanks Andrew and Neil, > The error message I get in LHA is "Warning skipping > corrupt/extraneous data. Bad decoding table. > I am calling the final file imagine.lha, the split files are imagine.ca1 - > .ca4 and imagine.fsi. Is the imagine.fsi part of the files? if not, what is > it. Also what is the web address at which I can get this MUIJoin. You might have downloaded it on the pc in ascii format. PC browsers don't know lha and lzx and might try to download them as text. They also convert those textfiles to pc format so all chr$($A) characters will be changed into chr$($A)+chr$($D) ;)). Try FixLHA which is on Aminet which reverses that effect. Then it should work. -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amiga, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Molly Jones This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 14 15:53:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19250 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26891 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 19:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 26846 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 19:53:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 19:53:21 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-47-101.btinternet.com [195.99.47.101]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA20611 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:53:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003601bee68e$cbba95e0$652f63c3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:51:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Joing & Appending Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric Molyneux" Thanks Andrew and Neil, The error message I get in LHA is "Warning skipping corrupt/extraneous data. Bad decoding table. I am calling the final file imagine.lha, the split files are imagine.ca1 - .ca4 and imagine.fsi. Is the imagine.fsi part of the files? if not, what is it. Also what is the web address at which I can get this MUIJoin. Thanks. Eric. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 15 17:16:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (www.onelist.com [209.207.164.219]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11154 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12111 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 1999 21:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12099 invoked by uid 99); 15 Aug 1999 21:15:49 -0000 Date: 15 Aug 1999 21:15:49 -0000 Message-ID: <934751749.12096@onelist.com> To: amos-list@onelist.com Received: from 194.73.73.69 by www.onelist.com with HTTP; 15 Aug 1999 21:15:49 -0000 From: drewgreen@hotmail.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] AMOS Pro compiler Status: O X-Status: From: drewgreen@hotmail.com does anyone know where I can get the amos pro compiler? I use the amos pro that came on a very old AF disk... but I'm told it should still work... BTW - has anyone thought of converting amoslist to egroups.com? it's got a much nicer interface, IMHO :) Cheers, Drew.Green@btinternet.com --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 15 17:20:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09180 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25872 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 1999 21:20:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25849 invoked from network); 15 Aug 1999 21:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 1999 21:20:56 -0000 Received: from gpo1.mail.iol.ie (gpo1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.198]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA84328 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:20:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0825.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.147.57]) by gpo1.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27038 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:20:12 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo1.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37B73E9F.8574BEEE@iol.ie> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:26:39 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <934751749.12096@onelist.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] AMOS Pro compiler Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill drewgreen@hotmail.com wrote: > > From: drewgreen@hotmail.com > > does anyone know where I can get the amos pro compiler? I use the amos pro that came on a very old AF disk... but I'm told it should still work... > BTW - has anyone thought of converting amoslist to egroups.com? it's got a much nicer interface, IMHO :) You can buy it at: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/ cya, -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 00:11:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22986 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1560 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 04:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 1545 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 04:11:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mago.agonet.it) (195.32.124.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 04:11:38 -0000 Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@fiore78.agonet.it [195.32.126.78]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA17978 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:11:27 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:12:17 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Pietro Ghizzoni Hello Andrew On 12-Ago-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. > Ok, how are the TCP stuff comming? how are the TCP stuff comming? > > Have you worked out InetD, 'cos it seems you can't simply stick a port > down, you have to do a loada other stuff in Services menu and IneD's menu > and probably some more stuff as well... > > PPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE say there is an easier way, PPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE! Yes... there is a easier way. You're considering the problem form the wrong point of view. It seems that several peoples are interested in internet gaming, but the ideas are a bit confused ;) Make your game acts like a server is not the best solution, mainly for one reason: If i want to play with you, i need to know if you are on-line and mainly your IP address. HOW????? Maybe: Using ICQ or IRC i can obtain your IP, but it's boring.... a solution is to obtain a 24h on-line dedicated server wich share your IP address to all the connected players ( ... like the ICQ servers does when you're connected ) but not everyone is so lucky to own a server :) The secret is to use the public available tecnologies... and in the above case the solution is.... suspence....... IRC! Several applications use the IRC method in order to solve problems like this... you've not to consider IRC just like a users CHAT, but it's dedicated for the applications too!! There are several IRC servers around the world.. a good news since the players can use a local connection. Now... how can i use IRC for the game? Solution: Your game will works as a small IRC client and not as server... you've to open a connection with a IRC server, and create a dedicated Channel for your game.. for example JBonds. When the players join the channel, your program will be informed, and you (.. your program) are able to play (chat) with all the players or just some of them. For the protocol to use, you can be inspired by the other internet protocols like HTTP,FTP,IRC an so on. Just use simple ASCII commands... for example if you want to move a player you can send a command (message) like this: MOVE James,50,90 when the program receive the above msg it moves the player James to the map coordinates 50,90. Using IRC you can send the message to all the players connected at the JBonds channel, or just one of them so your're able to setup a complete enviroment. I've not tried your game, and so i don't know what it does exactly.. anyway you've just to create a command for every possible action of your game... like: move,kill,fire,escape and so on... and send them trough the IRC channel to the other players. That's all folks! -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | ICQ 16361472 \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Development Group Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 00:11:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA21789 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:11:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5292 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 04:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5271 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 04:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mago.agonet.it) (195.32.124.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 04:11:45 -0000 Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@fiore78.agonet.it [195.32.126.78]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA17975 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:11:24 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni To: Amos-List Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:15:57 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] After the eclipse the Ghizzo is back! Status: O X-Status: From: Pietro Ghizzoni Hi! I'm sorry for the long period of silence... don't ask me why.. it's a long story :) a few notes: At the Pianeta Amiga'99 fair in Italy i'll release AMOSPro and not AmosNG :)) They are 2 different things. -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | ICQ 16361472 \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Development Group Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" 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Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37B7CAF4.9CCB737C@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:25:24 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: one fang > Solution: > > Your game will works as a small IRC client and not as server... you've to open a > connection with a IRC server, and create a dedicated Channel for your > game.. for example JBonds. > > When the players join the channel, your program will be informed, and you (.. > your program) are able to play (chat) with all the players or just some of them. > > For the protocol to use, you can be inspired by the other internet protocols like HTTP,FTP,IRC an so on. Just use simple ASCII commands... for example if you want to move a player you can send a command (message) like this: > > MOVE James,50,90 Oh yuck. That's all the Internet needs, more excessively verbose protocols. It's not very Amiga either, to use 16 (plus IRC protocol) bytes when 3 will do. You have replaced a simple Internet port programming problem with a complex "first write an IRC client, then write your protocol on top" problem. Inetd is designed to listen on certain ports, and start a new instance of a particular server proggy for each incoming connection. Since your proggy still needs to do everything except listening for a connection, you are probably better off simplifying things by just adding the "listen for a connection" part yourself. I can't solve this particular problem for you though, I don't even have AMOS Internet extensions. Oh, and do us all a favour, design a compact protocol that uses all 8 bits of the bandwidth, rather than having every 8th bit wasted. It's well overdue that the Internet changed to 8 bit protocols instead of 7 bit protocols and all the encoding that has to go on to cater for sending 8 bit data through a 7 bit protocol working over an 8 bit link. This sort of madness probably wastes about one quarter of all available bandwidth just on un-needed overhead. All to cater for some ancient systems that probably only exist in museums now. Sorry about that, it's a pet peeve of mine. All the reasons for using innefficient protocols on the Internet went away a long time ago, and most of then probably didn't exist when the bulk of protocols where designed. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 09:55:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04261 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 524 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 13:55:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 508 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 13:55:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 13:55:13 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.166]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA655B for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:01:17 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:56:11 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bee7ef$19e21700$a648a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] After the eclipse the Ghizzo is back! Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" >From: Pietro Ghizzoni >Hi! Hi Pietro, welcome back! >At the Pianeta Amiga'99 fair in Italy i'll release AMOSPro and not AmosNG :)) >They are 2 different things. Can you explain the difference? I know you must be sick of hearing this but have you an update on what you have been up to while you were away? Relating to AMOS of course. Regards, Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Molly Jones This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 14:27:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28496 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14660 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 18:27:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14650 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:27:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web903.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.78) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:27:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990816182625.15057.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.134.118] by web903.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:26:25 BST Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:26:25 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amigae-list@intercom.it, amos-list@onelist.com, octamed-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] holiday Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi Just thought I'd let y'all know that I'm on holiday for the next 2 weeks. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 14:30:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14236 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8851 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 18:30:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8795 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:30:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:30:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 1655 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:29:53 -0000 Received: from c0-18.pm4-1.harrisburg.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.191.81) by mail3.desupernet.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:29:53 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990816142841.0081c100@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:28:41 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" In-Reply-To: References: <37B7CAF4.9CCB737C@bigpond.net.au> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" At 07:25 PM 8/16/99 +0000, you wrote: > > So, Pietro, how about doing a 'open listening port' command for the gui extention ? plleeeaaaassseeeee :) > Yeah, make it return a value in Gui Wait or something if a connection on a specified port was made to your machine =)) Andy "Mushroom" Kellett Owner/Operator of F1 Software & 5th Dimension Licenseware -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 15:46:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06139 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26708 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 19:45:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26696 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 19:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mago.agonet.it) (195.32.124.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 19:45:53 -0000 Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126080.agonet.it [195.32.126.80]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10885 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:46:11 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:08:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37B7CAF4.9CCB737C@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Pietro Ghizzoni Hello one On 16-Ago-99, one fang wrote: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. > Oh yuck. That's all the Internet needs, more excessively verbose > protocols. It's not very Amiga either, to use 16 (plus IRC protocol) > bytes when 3 will do. You have replaced a simple Internet port > programming problem with a complex "first write an IRC client, then > write your protocol on top" problem. Ok... you're right! I know the problem but.... i've just solved *ALL* the problems in the *most easy to use solution* for all the AMOS coders. Problem... i'm on-line, and i want to play with you, but i don't know if you're on-line and your IP address.. how can i open a connection with your port???.... and the "simple internet port programming" is simple only if you know how it works ;) I belive again in the IRC solution because: - you don't need any specific inetd/sockets knowledge (probably only the 2% of the users on the list has some real knowledge about it) so everyone can use it. - the IRC protocol is VERY simple to use - you don't need to code a FULL IRC client.. just the essentials are needed. There is a AmosIRC client example already done in the GUI Extension archive. Sure... it's not the best professional way... but it is a /valid and/ /working solution!/ About the protocol format.. i agree with your point of you.. obviously the format can (must!) be reduced. See below... > Inetd is designed to listen on certain ports, and start a new instance > of a particular server proggy for each incoming connection. Since your > proggy still needs to do everything except listening for a connection, > you are probably better off simplifying things by just adding the > "listen for a connection" part yourself. > > I can't solve this particular problem for you though, I don't even have > AMOS Internet extensions. Not a problem... take the .fd file of the bsdsocket.library and the FD Extension builder.... in few seconds you'll obtain a ready to use extension with all the bsd functions inside! > Oh, and do us all a favour, design a compact protocol that uses all 8 > bits of the bandwidth, rather than having every 8th bit wasted. It's > well overdue that the Internet changed to 8 bit protocols instead of 7 > bit protocols and all the encoding that has to go on to cater for > sending 8 bit data through a 7 bit protocol working over an 8 bit link. Hey... it's just a stupid example to explain easly the situation. You can reduce the 16 bytes to just 3 byets.. example: the MOVE command can be just the letter M... the coordinates 50 and 90 can be their ASCII equivalent.. the chr$(50) is the char 2 and the chr$(90) is the letter Z so: M2Z (3 bytes!) can be interpreted as MOVE 50,90 there are even better solutions.... this is just a hint. > Sorry about that, it's a pet peeve of mine. All the reasons for using > innefficient protocols on the Internet went away a long time ago, and > most of then probably didn't exist when the bulk of protocols where > designed. I agree. My examples was so expanded in order to explain better the idea. Is up to the coder to optimize and setup the protocol. -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | ICQ 16361472 \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Development Group Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 14:22:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12341 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9499 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 18:18:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9453 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:18:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:18:22 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.195.50]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20879 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:18:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:17:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > The secret is to use the public available tecnologies... and in the above > case the solution is.... suspence....... IRC! > > Several applications use the IRC method in order to solve problems like > this... you've not to consider IRC just like a users CHAT, but it's > dedicated for the applications too!! > > There are several IRC servers around the world.. a good news since the > players can use a local connection. Now... how can i use IRC for the game? Hmm, good idea... > Solution: > > Your game will works as a small IRC client and not as server... you've to open a > connection with a IRC server, and create a dedicated Channel for your > game.. for example JBonds. > > When the players join the channel, your program will be informed, and you (.. > your program) are able to play (chat) with all the players or just some of them. > > For the protocol to use, you can be inspired by the other internet protocols like HTTP,FTP,IRC an so on. Just use simple ASCII commands... for example if you want to move a player you can send a command (message) like this: > > MOVE James,50,90 > > when the program receive the above msg it moves the player James to the map coordinates 50,90. ...But, wouldn't that be rather slow? And what if people joined in the chat thing and started mucking about with it? Also, that method just would not be practical at all in an action game, I'd have to be able to send and recieve binary, you can't do that with IRC could you? That would be a good way of starting a game automatically, but it would just not work for the actual game. > Using IRC you can send the message to all the players connected at the > JBonds channel, or just one of them so your're able to setup a complete > enviroment. > > I've not tried your game, and so i don't know what it does exactly.. anyway > you've just to create a command for every possible action of your game... > like: > > move,kill,fire,escape and so on... > > and send them trough the IRC channel to the other players. Well, it's a good idea but unfortunatly not practical for a game like James Bond :( it'd work for a statergy game, but not an action game :( So, how would you set your amiga as a server? ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - No word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver, and purple... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 14:27:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06275 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:27:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31650 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 18:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 31564 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:26:35 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.195.50]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22635 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:26:53 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:25:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37B7CAF4.9CCB737C@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> For the protocol to use, you can be inspired by the other internet protocols like HTTP,FTP,IRC an so on. Just use simple ASCII commands... for example if you want to move a player you can send a command (message) like this: >> >> MOVE James,50,90 > > Oh yuck. That's all the Internet needs, more excessively verbose > protocols. It's not very Amiga either, to use 16 (plus IRC protocol) > bytes when 3 will do. You have replaced a simple Internet port > programming problem with a complex "first write an IRC client, then > write your protocol on top" problem. > Inetd is designed to listen on certain ports, and start a new instance > of a particular server proggy for each incoming connection. Since your > proggy still needs to do everything except listening for a connection, > you are probably better off simplifying things by just adding the > "listen for a connection" part yourself. I couldn't see how InetD would listen for ports, and how amos'd connect to em. And the current GUI extention has no 'listen for a connection' feature as far as I can see. > I can't solve this particular problem for you though, I don't even have > AMOS Internet extensions. The Gui extention. > Oh, and do us all a favour, design a compact protocol that uses all 8 > bits of the bandwidth, rather than having every 8th bit wasted. It's > well overdue that the Internet changed to 8 bit protocols instead of 7 > bit protocols and all the encoding that has to go on to cater for > sending 8 bit data through a 7 bit protocol working over an 8 bit link. > This sort of madness probably wastes about one quarter of all available > bandwidth just on un-needed overhead. All to cater for some ancient > systems that probably only exist in museums now. Wouldn't a direct TCP connection be 8 bit? So, Pietro, how about doing a 'open listening port' command for the gui extention ? plleeeaaaassseeeee :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 16:52:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07477 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24250 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 20:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 24185 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 20:33:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 20:33:30 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-05-203.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.203]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23409 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:33:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:32:09 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 16-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> Inetd is designed to listen on certain ports, and start a new instance > I couldn't see how InetD would listen for ports, and how amos'd connect to >em. And the current GUI extention has no 'listen for a connection' feature as >far as I can see. First, you must decide which port you want to use for your game, for example 234. Now, you make an entry in inetd, for port 234, that will launch your program and send the parameter that contains the incoming port data, for example: jamesbond %p (I'm not sure of the format for the variable) in your program, you do: prt$=Command Line$ this reads a command line when your program starts, similar to vt ram:pic.iff and prt$ would be "ram:pic.iff" (Try it, amos programs can be started with command line parameters) Tcp Open prt$ or whatever the syntax is. So, when inetd gets a hit on port 234, it launches your program, passing the info on what port to connect back to. Your program then starts up, connecting to the user who is waiting on port 234. Clear now? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 18:02:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25613 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25167 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 22:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 25161 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 22:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO matavnet.hu) (145.236.224.246) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 22:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 18329 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 00:02:20 +0200 Received: from line-202-37.dial.matav.net (HELO freemail.c3.hu) (@145.236.202.37) by mail.matav.hu with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 00:02:20 +0200 From: Lazar Zoltan To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:53:56 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <934786958.29892@onelist.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Arexx$ Status: O X-Status: From: Lazar Zoltan Hello! Could you tell me somebody, how does it work the variable =arexx$()? I can get the whole message in the arexx$(0). What about parsing the arguments? Thank you in advance! --- Lazi lazi@freemail.c3.hu --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Why do WOMEN ASTRONAUTS have such BAD HAIRCUTS? What happens if you CLEAN your self-cleaning OVEN? The DR. has answers:Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 18:31:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28034 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6570 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 22:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6524 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 22:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 22:30:36 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-059.enterprise.net [194.72.195.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA10703 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:31:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:30:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Ok... you're right! I know the problem but.... i've just solved *ALL* the > problems in the *most easy to use solution* for all the AMOS coders. But what about speed? Syncronising 3 or 4 people over IRC isn't going to be that fast is it? & wouldn't it slow down the entire IRC server, as they aren't designed to handle untolled numbers of people sending multiple packets every screen update... > Problem... i'm on-line, and i want to play with you, but i don't know > if you're on-line and your IP address.. how can i open a connection with > your port???.... and the "simple internet port programming" is simple only if you know how it works ;) But why not just use an IRC server as a game listings, showing everyone that's online and then letting you connect to them? > Hey... it's just a stupid example to explain easly the situation. > > You can reduce the 16 bytes to just 3 byets.. example: > > the MOVE command can be just the letter M... > > the coordinates 50 and 90 can be their ASCII equivalent.. the chr$(50) is > the char 2 and the chr$(90) is the letter Z so: > > M2Z (3 bytes!) > > can be interpreted as MOVE 50,90 But what about characters under 32 or over 128? Would these show up, or be scrubbed by the irc server? Anyway, I'm still pretty sure that using IRC will be too slow, as I think I'd have to send about 15-20 packets between computers per update, but ok ok, I'll give it a shot. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - uins can jump as high as 6 feet. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 18:36:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28192 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4945 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 22:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4900 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-059.enterprise.net [194.72.195.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11560 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:36:31 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:35:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > First, you must decide which port you want to use for your game, for example > 234. Now, you make an entry in inetd, for port 234, that will launch your > program and send the parameter that contains the incoming port data, for > example: How? None of the InetD setting have anything to do with a port number... > jamesbond %p (I'm not sure of the format for the variable) > > in your program, you do: > > prt$=Command Line$ No no no no, that really wouldn't work becuase: I don't want the game loaded up JUST becuase someone's accessing that port on your computer, that'd be silly as anyone could start JamesBond on your amiga even if you really didn't want to. Why not just do Echo >RAM:tmp %p and then where the program checks for a connection: if exist("ram:tmp") open in 1,"ram:tmp" etc etc... Although I still don't see how InetD is supposed to be set up, and having people try to set it up on there own is asking a bit much I think... Well, anyway, thanks for trying :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - flamingos in the United States. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 19:00:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17227 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19417 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 22:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19339 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 22:59:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 22:59:36 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-059.enterprise.net [194.72.195.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA15475 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:59:59 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:58:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Ok... you're right! I know the problem but.... i've just solved *ALL* the >> problems in the *most easy to use solution* for all the AMOS coders. Ok people, does anyone know ANY way of logging onto the same server with both AMOS and AmIRC? It's a bit hard testing the IRC solution when you can't see what's happening :( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 16 22:24:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06807 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12987 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 02:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12976 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 02:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 02:24:06 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-19-186.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.131.186]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28901 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:24:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 16-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > How? None of the InetD setting have anything to do with a port number... You use the services entries to set the port data up name: jamesbond ID: 234 (port number) protocol: tcp > No no no no, that really wouldn't work becuase: >I don't want the game loaded up JUST becuase someone's accessing that port on >your computer, that'd be silly as anyone could start JamesBond on your amiga >even if you really didn't want to. Why else would someone be accessing port 234 (to stick with our example)? > Why not just do >Echo >RAM:tmp %p >and then where the program checks for a connection: >if exist("ram:tmp") > open in 1,"ram:tmp" > etc etc... For a net game where people link, somewhere there needs to be a server, running all the time, to route the traffic. Only a direct link from 1 computer to 1 computer, no other parties, can operate without a middle man. Someone will have to be running a james bond hub. That's where inetd comes in. > Although I still don't see how InetD is supposed to be set up, and having >people try to set it up on there own is asking a bit much I think... Bitch at the miami guy for not having any docs. I've set up my own web servers and pop3 (mail) servers, so it is not all that difficult. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 13:44:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA32527 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30773 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 17:45:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 30755 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:45:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:45:10 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-028.enterprise.net [194.72.196.28]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01888 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:44:35 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:18:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Http access w/ TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I don't suppose anyone would be kind enough to give me an example, using the Gui extention, to read a text file from a website? I've tried, but for some reason it just won't do it. I remember there being a program that got the Aminet recent list, but I can't find it anywhere... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - 640k is probably all the memory anyone will ever need. -- Bill Gates --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 12:59:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26987 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30533 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 17:00:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 30527 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:00:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:00:04 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA89573 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:59:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0618.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.146.106]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA62793 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:59:32 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37B9A490.5E7DDBC5@iol.ie> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:06:08 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > Hello! > > the coordinates 50 and 90 can be their ASCII equivalent.. the chr$(50) is > > the char 2 and the chr$(90) is the letter Z so: > > > > M2Z (3 bytes!) > > > > can be interpreted as MOVE 50,90 > > But what about characters under 32 or over 128? Would these show up, or be scrubbed by the irc server? > > Anyway, I'm still pretty sure that using IRC will be too slow, as I think I'd have to send about 15-20 packets between computers per update, but ok ok, I'll give it a shot. iRC will be WAY to slow! It normally has a 3second lag! But, Ive got a better idea :) You could run it through the partyline in #amos!!! (its on my new bot "Karma" in #amos) once in the partyline, everything is taken off the irc servers, and it is handled directly by the bot, which is running on a damn fast server. It runs just like a mini irc server, appart from theres no lag at all. To use it, you will need to log on to irc as normal, you dont need to join channels or anything, just dcc chat with the bot, and when you are speaking to the bot, via dcc chat, it sends the message to everyone else who is dcc chatting to it. You should get a quite fast speed through it. It will definately be faster than irc. At the moment, the partyline is fully functional appart from atm, it doesnt let you upload files onto it, cos I dont want people to fill my hd with files :) But you wont need that unless your putting a autoupdate jamesbond thing in it :) cya, -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 12:59:55 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23583 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16605 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 17:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16590 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:00:12 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA89607 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:59:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0618.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.146.106]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA62830 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:59:39 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37B9A499.B5FC7514@iol.ie> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:06:17 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, Hiya! > Well, it's a good idea but unfortunatly not practical for a game like James Bond :( it'd work for a statergy game, but not an action game :( > > So, how would you set your amiga as a server? ;) I think checking out "amarquee.library" might be worth while, It has server support. you would just need to do some lib calls, and you prolly wont have much probs with it. cya! -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 13:51:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11059 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18269 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 17:51:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18226 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neodymium.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.83) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:51:39 -0000 Received: from host5-171-234-219.btinternet.com ([195.171.234.219] helo=btinternet.com) by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11GnNa-0000jr-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:34 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:28 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Strange AMOS Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello, AMOS experts. Can you shed any light on this please? My Amos Pro has been behaving strangely lately. Often the Compiler screen takes some (5) seconds to appear when called from the editor, also the editor takes some time to quit, occasionaly blacking the screen for many seconds. Just this week a strange AMOS style message has started to appear. I'll try and reproduce it in ASCII text. ------------------ | JPEG Datatype Error | |-----------------I | Can't alloc Bitmap | | OK | ------------------ Hope that comes out OK. Any ideas? Kind regards -- ------------ NEIL IVES MALVERN UK ------------ Amiga owners do it before the PC has finished booting. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 14:55:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11110 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29929 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 18:54:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 29843 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 18:54:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 18:54:42 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-08-130.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.130]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25550 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Artist Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" Had contact with the artist dude. Still waiting for the pics, but he's not dead yet. CBAT NAM will not die. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 15:32:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00240 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11520 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 19:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 11510 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 19:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 19:33:01 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-077.enterprise.net [194.72.195.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24089 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:32:25 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:31:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I have a small request: I have tried, and failed to adopt the AmosIRC program for use as a James Bond netgaming forum. So, I'm asking very nicely if someone could try writing: A Simple IRC program (simple as in so that /I/ can understand how it works :), that runs asyncro. (the main loop needs to be constantly updated) and finally, that uses the amos custom screen. If you would write one, I'd be really really greatful. I'll be a bit more specific: A) Could it please only have a very simple interface using 1 or more AMOS screens (I can integrate it into my own iface later;) where it sends and recieves messages and the basic IRC commands. b) Could it also be able to get a list of everyone on that channel and put it into an array, on demand? c) Could it be simply written with lots of REMS please? Contrary to popular belief, I'm not an expert in programming :) Anyway, any help I get will be very much aprechiated :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - *Stress Is:* The confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic desire to choke the living s&@t out of some asshole who desperately need it. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 17:04:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA07095 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31020 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 21:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 30805 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 21:04:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 21:04:28 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-026.enterprise.net [194.72.196.146]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12942 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:04:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> No no no no, that really wouldn't work becuase: >> I don't want the game loaded up JUST becuase someone's accessing that port on >> your computer, that'd be silly as anyone could start JamesBond on your amiga >> even if you really didn't want to. > > Why else would someone be accessing port 234 (to stick with our example)? Here's the scene: You are happily surfing the net or playing quake online etc., when suddenly some ideot thinks 'I know, lets give whoever a game of james bond' and then puts in there IP no. without telling them. Suddenly a copy of James Bond jumps onto the screen, causing much annoyance. >> Although I still don't see how InetD is supposed to be set up, and having >> people try to set it up on there own is asking a bit much I think... > > Bitch at the miami guy for not having any docs. I've set up my own web servers > and pop3 (mail) servers, so it is not all that difficult. AmiTCP btw. Anyway, I managed to get it working, you forgot to tell me to add an entry in 'services' and then fiddle about with the cli command. As I've go a program that outputs the command line its given to a file in ram, but lo, I can't get it to output any kind of IP no. or anything. And AMOS locks up when I try to do anything with the port... Besides, I don't want to have to expect poor people to fiddle about in the settings like that. Quake can have a direct TCP connection between two computers, why not GUI TCP commands? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as the gamma rays disintegrated his cellular structure. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 18:11:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18495 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23378 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 22:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23369 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 22:12:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 22:12:22 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-23-143.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.143]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18387 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:01:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 17-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >A) Could it please only have a very simple interface using 1 or more AMOS >screens (I can integrate it into my own iface later;) where it sends and >recieves messages and the basic IRC commands. Do you have the irc rfc file? >b) Could it also be able to get a list of everyone on that channel and put it >into an array, on demand? Very simple to do. >c) Could it be simply written with lots of REMS please? Contrary to popular >belief, I'm not an expert in programming :) I'll add it to the list. I had a bot running before, you might recall. But I haven't written a line of code for anything in weeks. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 18:11:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23856 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7797 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 22:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 7790 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 22:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 22:12:24 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-23-143.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.143]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18394 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:11:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:09:58 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re:TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 17-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Here's the scene: You are happily surfing the net or playing quake online >etc., when suddenly some ideot thinks 'I know, lets give whoever a game of >james bond' and then puts in there IP no. without telling them. Suddenly a >copy of James Bond jumps onto the screen, causing much annoyance. Only the server end. As in, one computer sets up inetd, the hub. Others just connect to it. You wouldn't set up inetd for all users. Others would hit the hub. > AmiTCP btw. Even worse. Q8-{) >Anyway, I managed to get it working, you forgot to tell me to add an entry in >'services' and then fiddle about with the cli command. Ya, sorry about that. >As I've go a program that outputs the command line its given to a file in ram, >but lo, I can't get it to output any kind of IP no. or anything. I don't know the parameter, but it will do it. I'm fiddling about with it myself. > And AMOS locks up when I try to do anything with the port... The one that is reported or the one you set up? > Besides, I don't want to have to expect poor people to fiddle about in the >settings like that. They wouldn't. > Quake can have a direct TCP connection between two computers, why not GUI >TCP commands? Now, let's try to get on the same page. I'm talking about a game with three or more people logged in at once, as you originally stated. If you only want to direct connect person a to berson b, that is dead simple. The irc example would do fine. Or, for that matter, any kind of connection where you can get the ip or domain or whatever of the person you want to connect to. Even just a little window saying 'enter ip number to connect to'. I think you still have to set up the port so your system will let it work, but I may be wrong. Once you know the ip to connect to (both ends need to know the other guys ip), you just instruct one guy to open the port (he would be like a host) and the other connect to it (he would be the user). It's easy to set that as a flag, then the host program would initiate all data transfers, the user would respond. bingity bangity boo. I've done similar stuff with my serial game "dungeon", using dialup instead of net connect, but the idea is the same. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 18:52:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23117 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12667 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 22:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12639 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 22:51:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 22:51:42 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-023.enterprise.net [194.72.196.23]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03715 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:51:42 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:50:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> c) Could it be simply written with lots of REMS please? Contrary to popular >> belief, I'm not an expert in programming :) > > I'll add it to the list. I had a bot running before, you might recall. But I > haven't written a line of code for anything in weeks. Ok, I've found what was causing probs with my first try: 1. 'TCP OPEN' seems to lock up if amos is in front ?! 2. Gui Event causes 'Amos to back' whenever its called. I'm still having trouble with it though :( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The average ice berg weighs 20,000,000 tons. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 18:57:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08181 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21658 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 22:56:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21481 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 22:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 22:56:11 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-023.enterprise.net [194.72.196.23]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA04798 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:56:38 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:55:24 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Re:TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Only the server end. As in, one computer sets up inetd, the hub. Others just > connect to it. You wouldn't set up inetd for all users. Others would hit the > hub. yeah, but people that wanted to host a game'd have to fiddle about with all that. >> As I've go a program that outputs the command line its given to a file in > ram, >> but lo, I can't get it to output any kind of IP no. or anything. > > I don't know the parameter, but it will do it. I'm fiddling about with it > myself. ta ;) >> And AMOS locks up when I try to do anything with the port... > > The one that is reported or the one you set up? The one I set up, but I think I know why now.... >> Besides, I don't want to have to expect poor people to fiddle about in the >> settings like that. > > They wouldn't. but they would if they wanted to host a game.... >> Quake can have a direct TCP connection betwen two computers, why not GUI >> TCP commands? > > Now, let's try to get on the same page. I'm talking about a game with three or > more people logged in at once, as you originally stated. If you only want to > direct connect person a to berson b, that is dead simple. But Tcp Open only works one way. There is no 'Tcp Listen(port)' type command. >The irc example > would do fine. IRC would be totally useless for ingame, as a) its slow and b) everyone would get kicked off for flooding. IRC is perfect for doing the pre-game forum though, for people to find each other and start games etc. (Which is what I'm trying now... :) >Or, for that matter, any kind of connection where you can get > the ip or domain or whatever of the person you want to connect to. Even just a > little window saying 'enter ip number to connect to'. > > I think you still have to set up the port so your system will let it work, but > I may be wrong. Once you know the ip to connect to (both ends need to know the > other guys ip), you just instruct one guy to open the port (he would be like a > host) and the other connect to it (he would be the user). It's easy to set > that as a flag, then the host program would initiate all data transfers, the > user would respond. bingity bangity boo. I've done similar stuff with my > serial game "dungeon", using dialup instead of net connect, but the idea is > the same. Yeah, thats what I'm after but I really think there should be an easier way then using InetD. Surely it can't be that hard to add a Tcp Listen(port) command or whatever, can it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The total budget for ET: The ExtraTerrestrial (1982) was $10.5 million - a sum that was more than returned in the movie's first week of release. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 19:24:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24758 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12504 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 23:23:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12496 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 23:23:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 23:23:58 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-032.enterprise.net [194.72.196.152]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09318 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:24:33 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:23:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] GUI tcp, bugs? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I've /almost /found what kept crashing my attempt at an IRC proggy: 1) Tcp Open seems to lock up if the Amos screen is in front. bug? 2) Gui Wait and Gui Event force amos to back, even when I a) really really really don't want it to and b) even though I called Amos Lock. Any way of stopping this or a way of catching incomming TCP stuff without it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The longest recorded flight of a chicken is thirteen seconds. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 23:15:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05851 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22289 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 03:16:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22275 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 03:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 03:16:06 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-27-75.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.75]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA17750 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:15:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:08:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 17-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > But Tcp Open only works one way. There is no 'Tcp Listen(port)' type >command. You wouldn't need it, maybe. We're getting too theoretical here. You're trying to force me to start programming again, aren't you? > IRC would be totally useless for ingame, as a) its slow and b) everyone >would get kicked off for flooding. > IRC is perfect for doing the pre-game forum though, for people to find each >other and start games etc. (Which is what I'm trying now... :) That's what I meant. > Yeah, thats what I'm after but I really think there should be an easier way >then using InetD. Surely it can't be that hard to add a Tcp Listen(port) >command or whatever, can it? Well, for just direct person to person, I don't think you'd need inetd. It would take a bit of experimenting with the command. If you and I knew each other's ip numbers and you did a tcp open port 1.1.1.1/234 (or whatever), then I did the same, using your ip instead, I think they would hook up. Anyone doing any experimenting with direct tcp connect yet? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 17 23:15:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01473 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7408 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 03:14:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 7258 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 03:14:36 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-27-75.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.75]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA17753 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:15:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: GUI tcp, bugs? Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 17-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Ok, I've /almost /found what kept crashing my attempt at an IRC proggy: >1) Tcp Open seems to lock up if the Amos screen is in front. bug? Assumption that you have made a gui. >2) Gui Wait and Gui Event force amos to back, even when I a) really really >really don't want it to and b) even though I called Amos Lock. Any way of >stopping this or a way of catching incomming TCP stuff without it? Pietro? Possible to add a tcp wait command in there that doesn't rely on the gui stuff? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 05:33:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA13612 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32716 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 09:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 32710 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 09:33:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 09:33:34 -0000 Received: from du-67.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.67]:1209 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:33:35 +0300 Message-ID: <000901bee95d$667497e0$43c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:36:47 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, Have anyone managed somehow to get all eight hardware sprites on screen at the same time? I have a pice of code using sprite numbers 0 to 7 but Amos only shows only one sprite of each group (0/1,2/3,4/5,6/7). In the manual there's nothing of missing pairs but all example code in manual folder are based only on four sprites. [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 13:41:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07212 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12136 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 17:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11931 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 17:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 17:40:38 -0000 Received: from eaborn.powernet.co.uk (root@bmip132.powernet.co.uk [195.60.5.132]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA17851 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:35:46 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Steve Eaborn To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:39:40 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000901bee95d$667497e0$43c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Steve Eaborn Hello Sasu > Have anyone managed somehow to get all eight hardware sprites on screen at > the same time? I have a pice of code using sprite numbers 0 to 7 but Amos > only shows only one sprite of each group (0/1,2/3,4/5,6/7). In the manual > there's nothing of missing pairs but all example code in manual folder are > based only on four sprites. You must make sure that your sprites have a maximum of 4 colours (2 bitmaps), otherwise the sprite system uses pairs of sprites to display any more than 4 colours. Also, if you use hardware scrolling for left/right then you can't use sprites 6 & 7 (this is a hardware limitation according to the manual). Cheers, Steve. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 13:45:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26919 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30930 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 17:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 30899 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 17:45:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 17:45:52 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-044.enterprise.net [194.72.196.44]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23792 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:45:21 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:44:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000901bee95d$667497e0$43c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe > Have anyone managed somehow to get all eight hardware sprites on screen at the same time? > I have a pice of code using sprite numbers 0 to 7 but Amos only shows only one sprite of each group (0/1,2/3,4/5,6/7). In the manual there's nothing of missing pairs but all example code in manual folder are based only on four sprites. Sounds like you're using 16 colour sprites, right? If you use 16 colour sprites, they actually use 2 sprites. If you need 8, either use 4 colour sprites, or use computed sprites (no. 8 onwads). Or use bobs instead? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) cost $6,270,000 to make, and grossed about $60,000,000. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 14:04:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00510 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14717 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 18:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14712 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 18:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 18:04:56 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-044.enterprise.net [194.72.196.44]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27838 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:04:22 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:03:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Ok, I have a small request: > > A Simple IRC program (simple as in so that /I/ can understand how it works >:), that runs asyncro. (the main loop needs to be constantly updated) and >finally, that uses the amos custom screen. Ok, after that desperate plee for help, I managed to make one myself anyway. (typical eh?). The problem was trying to get the commands working when amos was in front, which just didn't work. I solved this by using the intuition ext. to use a pubscreen. As James Bond already supports pubscreen, using the current GUI ext commands would work, but there'd be not custom screen mode option while having a net game. PS. Pietro, how about not forcing amos to back when calling Gui Event, and please fix the TCP OPEN when amos is in front bug? On the subject of net James Bond, I have almost finished the comms routine, I've got it to save all the outgoing packets (thats from the host to the remote copies). I've found that it uses around 100-200 bytes per frame. Say the game was running at 15fps, that'd make the total outgoing bandwith around 18kbits, which is quite a lot, but a fast connection between to 56kbit modems /should /be ok. (not taking into consideration net lag etc.) Using IRC for this game data would be impossible, because that is about 2-3k of binary data every seccond, and IRC just isn't designed for this kind of application. PPS. Thanks for the idea Rev. Giark, but I already tried TCP open on someone else, it just fails. It seems that the program has to open that port for someone to connect to, and so far (hu-hum Pietro) there seems to be no command that does this.... PPPS. Can someone send me a program that downloads a text file from a webpage please, I can't work out how to :( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he shorted the plane's electrics with his nose. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 14:12:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21059 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 154 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 18:11:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 147 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 18:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 18:11:42 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-28-113.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.113]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA28725 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:12:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 18-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > PPPS. Can someone send me a program that downloads a text file from a >webpage please, I can't work out how to :( Tcp F Open should do the trick. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Join our community member news update ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 15:01:25 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14079 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28158 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 19:01:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28020 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-063.enterprise.net [194.72.196.63]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09273 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:01:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:34:26 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> PPPS. Can someone send me a program that downloads a text file from a >> webpage please, I can't work out how to :( > > Tcp F Open should do the trick. Yep, but how would I request the file? I don't suppose you could please please please please write a little example program please? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as Odd Job /took his hat off/ for him. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 16:15:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12401 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22965 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 20:15:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22901 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 20:15:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 20:15:22 -0000 Received: from du-29.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.29]:1246 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bitcdb1 smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:15:34 +0300 Message-ID: <003a01bee9b7$114b7f40$33c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:18:39 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Andrew, > >> Have anyone managed somehow to get all eight hardware sprites on screen at the same time? >> I have a pice of code using sprite numbers 0 to 7 but Amos only shows only one sprite of each group (0/1,2/3,4/5,6/7). In the manual there's nothing of missing pairs but all example code in manual folder are based only on four sprites. > > Sounds like you're using 16 colour sprites, right? Nope, my sprites have only one colour by this way: spr0 - col 17 spr1 - col 19 spr2 - col 21 spr3 - col 23 spr4 - col 25 spr5 - col 27 spr6 - col 29 spr7 - col 31 So all of them should be visible but aren't:( [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 17:50:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com ([209.207.164.249]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA31805 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26659 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 21:50:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26651 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 21:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by 209.207.164.249 with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 21:50:03 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-077.enterprise.net [194.72.195.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12859 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:50:03 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:48:49 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003a01bee9b7$114b7f40$33c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> >> Sounds like you're using 16 colour sprites, right? > > Nope, my sprites have only one colour by this way: > spr0 - col 17 > spr1 - col 19 > spr2 - col 21 > spr3 - col 23 > spr4 - col 25 > spr5 - col 27 > spr6 - col 29 > spr7 - col 31 > > So all of them should be visible but aren't:( is that the actually colour the sprites are painted in? If you're using 4 colour sprites, make sure that the images are *4* colours. (as in drawn on a 4 colour screen). Even if they only have 4 colours in them, if they are on a 16+ colour screen then they count as 16 colour sprites. The pallette for 4 colour sprites goes like this: Sprite 0 &1 sprite colour 1 -> screen colour 17 sprite colour 2 -> screen colour 18 sprite colour 3 -> screen colour 19 sprite 2 & 3 1 - 21 2 - 22 3 - 23 sprite 4 & 5 1 - 25 2 - 26 3 - 27 sprite 6 & 7 1 - 29 2 - 30 3 - 31 See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 17:55:02 1999 Received: from onelist.com ([209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30404 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9320 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 21:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 9314 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 21:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe090.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.152) by 209.207.164.245 with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 21:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13336 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 1999 21:54:57 -0000 Received: from 35.ppp3-7.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.70.35) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 21:54:57 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Sasu Lintula Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:49:26 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003a01bee9b7$114b7f40$33c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 18-Aug-99, Sasu Lintula wrote: >Nope, my sprites have only one colour by this way: >spr0 - col 17 >spr1 - col 19 >spr2 - col 21 >spr3 - col 23 >spr4 - col 25 >spr5 - col 27 >spr6 - col 29 >spr7 - col 31 >So all of them should be visible but aren't:( Eh. Sorry, that's not the way it works... The hardware doesn't "count" the colours you use. So even if you only use a few colours on a 32 colour screen the hardware assumes that you use all 32 colours. To tell AMOS that your sprites are in only 4 colours you have to grab them from a four colour screen. The sprites will then use the folowing colours in the palette: Sprite Colours 8+1 17-19 2+3 21-23 4+5 25-27 6+7 29-31 For some reason Europress thought it very clever to rename sprite 0 to sprite 8... So even though the hardware refers to the sprites as 0-7 then AMOS refers to the hardware sprites as 1-8 where sprite 8 is reserved for the mouse pointer when it is shown. -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 18:02:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17938 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10498 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 22:02:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 10490 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 22:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 22:02:11 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-077.enterprise.net [194.72.195.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA15467 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:02:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:01:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > For some reason Europress thought it very clever to rename sprite 0 to sprite > 8... So even though the hardware refers to the sprites as 0-7 then AMOS refers > to the hardware sprites as 1-8 where sprite 8 is reserved for the mouse > pointer when it is shown. I think (I may be wrong) but that isn't the case: Sprite 8 is the first computed sprite. The real sprite 0 is usually tied up with the mouse pointer. To free it up, call 'Hide On' to free it up. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Lee Harvey Oswald's cadaver toe tag was sold at auction in 1992 for $6,600. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 18:51:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23674 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30467 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 22:51:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 30462 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 22:51:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by 209.207.164.243 with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 22:51:26 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-14-177.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.177]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01965 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:03:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 18-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Yep, but how would I request the file? I don't suppose you could please >please please please write a little example program please? Tcp Download A To B It may be a GUI2 command. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 18:57:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19195 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23777 invoked by alias); 18 Aug 1999 22:56:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23652 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 22:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 22:56:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-007.enterprise.net [194.72.195.127]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24768 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:56:56 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:55:41 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos IRC program. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Tcp Download A To B > > It may be a GUI2 command. Yep, no such command :( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Actor Alan Hale Snr played the role of Little John in three seperate screen versions of the Robin Hood tale over 28 years. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 22:35:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA23927 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26792 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 02:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26784 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 02:34:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 02:34:15 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11HI2X-000OKS-0C for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:34:53 +0000 Message-ID: <007601bee9eb$7b2d3820$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:35:19 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" Does anyone have a circuit diagram of the CD32 pad ??? --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 23:58:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA12731 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 563 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 03:57:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 556 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 03:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 03:57:21 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11HJL4-000OFx-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:58:06 +0000 Message-ID: <00cd01bee9f7$192c9a60$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:58:28 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > >Does anyone have a circuit diagram of the CD32 pad ??? > > Why do you need that? Some guy asked me, and he is aparantly building one or wiring a playstation one up or something obscure like that. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 18 23:21:16 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03664 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5663 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 03:21:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5658 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 03:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 03:21:22 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-19-179.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.131.179]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA27813 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Keith Hill Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:19:31 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007601bee9eb$7b2d3820$0200a8c0@defiant> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 18-Aug-99, Keith Hill wrote: >Does anyone have a circuit diagram of the CD32 pad ??? Why do you need that? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 01:44:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA26637 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1668 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 05:44:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1054 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 05:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 05:43:37 -0000 Received: from du-29.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.29]:1027 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:43:23 +0300 Message-ID: <004301beea06$69e0dc00$1dc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:40:15 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Andrew, >>> >>> Sounds like you're using 16 colour sprites, right? >> >> Nope, my sprites have only one colour by this way: >> spr0 - col 17 >> spr1 - col 19 >> spr2 - col 21 >> spr3 - col 23 >> spr4 - col 25 >> spr5 - col 27 >> spr6 - col 29 >> spr7 - col 31 >> >> So all of them should be visible but aren't:( > > is that the actually colour the sprites are painted in? > >If you're using 4 colour sprites, make sure that the images are *4* colours. (as in drawn on a 4 colour screen). And Amos remaps all sprites? 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Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > Some guy asked me, and he is aparantly building one or wiring a playstation > one up or something obscure like that. Very interesting ! As Megadrive/Genesis' joypads are now hard to find, Playstation ones are everywhere ! And most of time stronger and easier to handle. Please can you tell us when this guy will achieve his wiring ? 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Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.1748825168.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Ok eagers :) do you want play with sockets and servers... voila'! I've cr= eated for you the AMOS BSDSocket.library survival kit :)) Included: - a FD Extension with all the bsdsocket.library functions - the .fd file of the bsdsocket.library = - the Sockets doc - a set of Amos procedures for a easy access to the functions In the future i'll integrate all the functions of these procedures in the= GUI Extension... now i'm working for the Pianeta Amiga fair, and i've not= enough time to do it. = First you need to install the extension... it's the number 25. If you alr= eady use a FD extension, or you've another extension in the slot 25 i sug= gest you to run the FD Extension builder and create your version. In the = archive there is the .fd file and the ASCII version of the procedures, to= o. *You need the EasyLife and GUI extension too.* Now you're ready to use the procedures. They are very easy, and offers al= l the necessary functions for open a connection,send and receive datas, and= obviously the possbility to open the famous listening port :) Since the "open listening port" is the request number one.... example: SOCK_OPENSERVER[PORT] : PORTSOCK=3DParam that's all!! :) if the PORTSOCK param is ><-1 everything is fine, and your PORT is waitin= g (listening) for connections. In order to know is someone wants open a connection... SOCK_SERVERCHECK[PORTSOCK] : ADR=3DParam If there is a connection waiting, the ADR param is ><-1 and it's the sock= et number associated to the remote system. Now you can chat with the other c= omputer using the SOCK_SEND and SOCK_READ procedures... or fuck it with a= nice SOCK_CLOSE :) In the above case, if i want send 100 bytes of datas to the connected com= puter.... SOCK_SEND[ADR,Start(10),100] simple eh? The name of the procedures are self-explaning, and there are some connents inside.... 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with SMTP id LAA26372 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27179 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 15:23:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27172 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 15:23:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe010.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.195) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 15:23:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 32015 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 1999 15:24:04 -0000 Received: from 2.ppp3-6.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.74.194) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 15:24:04 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Sasu Lintula Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004301beea06$69e0dc00$1dc7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 19-Aug-99, Sasu Lintula wrote: >>If you're using 4 colour sprites, make sure that the images are *4* colours. >>(as in drawn on a 4 colour screen). >And Amos remaps all sprites? No. THE HARDWARE remaps all sprites. -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 11:24:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15546 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23518 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 15:24:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23513 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 15:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe010.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.195) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 15:24:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 32037 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 1999 15:24:09 -0000 Received: from 2.ppp3-6.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.74.194) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 15:24:09 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:17:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 19-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> For some reason Europress thought it very clever to rename sprite 0 to >sprite >> 8... So even though the hardware refers to the sprites as 0-7 then AMOS > I think (I may be wrong) but that isn't the case: >Sprite 8 is the first computed sprite. The real sprite 0 is usually tied up >with the mouse pointer. To free it up, call 'Hide On' to free it up. DAMN! It seams like you are right. Where did I get the idea that you could't use sprite 0??? (I even tested it before I wrote the letter - but apperently my test was not good enough) Yep. Hardware sprites go from 0 to 7. Uh, I'm embarressed :) -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 14:20:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (may be forged)) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23406 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13161 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 18:21:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 13145 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 18:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.209) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 18:21:07 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-46-52.btinternet.com [195.99.46.52]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14360 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:20:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001001beea6f$95e16a40$342e63c3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:19:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Exterior Floppy Drive Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric Molyneux" Hi Everone, Old Wrinkly here again. A while back I asked about a Hard Drive off a PC fitting the Amiga. Now I want to know, will the external Floppy Drive I now use on my Amiga, run on a PC.?. May sound obvious to most, but I've got to ask. as it could save me a few bob. I want to couple my Amiga to the PC via a parnet lead and the PC I will use has no Floppy Drive, I need this of course for the software. I'd also like to enquire again, "Does anyone know where I can get Cinema 4D" Thanks A Lot Eric --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElists NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 15:00:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01501 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2990 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 19:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 2876 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.erols.com) (207.172.3.234) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from erols.com (216-164-182-126.s126.tnt2.xmv.nj.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.182.126]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05579 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:00:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Kossa To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:59:53 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37BBB129.6BB0305F@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: Christopher Kossa Hey floquet... On 19-Aug-99, didn't you say... >> Some guy asked me, and he is aparantly building one or wiring a playstation >> one up or something obscure like that. > Very interesting ! As Megadrive/Genesis' joypads are now hard to find, > Playstation ones are everywhere ! > And most of time stronger and easier to handle. > Please can you tell us when this guy will achieve his wiring ? I know a while back there was a link on Dave's Video Game Classics that had a link for a site that had schematics for hooking up N64, PSX, NES and other types of controllers to a serial/game port on a PC. Maybe this can help you out. If I can find it, I'll send the URL to the list. -- ...Christopher ============================================================================ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElists WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 15:32:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06591 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 665 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 19:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 578 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 19:32:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 19:32:18 -0000 Received: from du-49.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.49]:1041 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:31:27 +0300 Message-ID: <003c01beea7a$169c3c00$31c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:33:29 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" >>>If you're using 4 colour sprites, make sure that the images are *4* colours. >>>(as in drawn on a 4 colour screen). > >>And Amos remaps all sprites? > >No. >THE HARDWARE remaps all sprites. Well, well. Looks like THE HARDWARE;P does it, however THE HARDWARE can't show eighth sprite when screen width is wider than 352, damn:( [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 16:11:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24415 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6340 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 20:11:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6299 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 20:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 20:11:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-012.enterprise.net [194.72.195.12]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16088 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:11:49 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:10:31 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001001beea6f$95e16a40$342e63c3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Exterior Floppy Drive Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > A while back I asked > about a Hard Drive off a PC fitting the Amiga. > Now I want to know, will the external Floppy Drive I now use on my Amiga, > run on a PC.?. Nope, there's no where to plug it in on a PC. Seeing as the drive probably isn't a high density drive, there wouldn't be much point anyway. If your PC needs a new drive, just get some cheap replacement disk drive, you can pick them up for peanuts nowerdays. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Charles Lindbergh took only four sandwiches with him on his famous transatlantic flight. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members, don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist! Join our community member news update ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 16:13:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA31734 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15814 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 20:14:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 15714 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 20:14:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 20:14:22 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-012.enterprise.net [194.72.195.12]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16459 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:13:40 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:12:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003c01beea7a$169c3c00$31c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Well, well. Looks like THE HARDWARE;P does it, however THE HARDWARE can't show eighth sprite when screen width is wider than 352, damn:( Yep, but if you need L<>R scrolling screens, just use Screen Display to shrink the display size down to 320. That should do it :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Colgate introduced a toothpaste in France called Cue, the same name as a notorious French porno mag. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 19:22:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02677 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26791 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 1999 23:23:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 26782 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 23:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 23:23:02 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-001.enterprise.net [194.72.196.121]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21023 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:22:16 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Server Connection Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Ok eagers :) do you want play with sockets and servers... voila'! I've created for you the AMOS BSDSocket.library survival kit :)) They're perfect :) I've only given them a little spin, and they worked perfectly, I connected to my own AMOS program with telnet :) I'll have to check they work in my IRC program, then I can see if I can get JB working over a network connection :) > When you've finished remember to close all the opened sockets! Yep, that's the only problem I had.... Is there any way of forcing it to close a port after the program's finnished? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Chine produces and consumes more fresh pork than any other country. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 19 21:09:05 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18519 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25222 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 01:08:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25192 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 01:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 01:08:12 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11HdAh-000C4d-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:08:43 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01beeaa8$9c36e080$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:09:09 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > >> Some guy asked me, and he is aparantly building one or wiring a playstation > >> one up or something obscure like that. > > > Very interesting ! As Megadrive/Genesis' joypads are now hard to find, > > Playstation ones are everywhere ! > > And most of time stronger and easier to handle. > > > Please can you tell us when this guy will achieve his wiring ? > > I know a while back there was a link on Dave's Video Game Classics that had a link for a site that had schematics for hooking up N64, PSX, NES and other types of controllers to a serial/game port on a PC. Maybe this can help you out. If I can find it, I'll send the URL to the list. ...an excellent idea... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 05:49:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA24132 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5984 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 09:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5883 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 09:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bc.seflin.org) (199.227.192.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 09:48:31 -0000 Received: (from a007193t@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA26458; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:48:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Hyland Sender: Eric Hyland To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <002d01beeaa8$9c36e080$0200a8c0@defiant> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: CD32 Joypads. Status: O X-Status: From: Eric Hyland On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Keith Hill wrote: > From: "Keith Hill" > > > > >> Some guy asked me, and he is aparantly building one or wiring a > playstation > > >> one up or something obscure like that. > > > > > Very interesting ! As Megadrive/Genesis' joypads are now hard to find, > > > Playstation ones are everywhere ! > > > And most of time stronger and easier to handle. > > > > > Please can you tell us when this guy will achieve his wiring ? > > > > I know a while back there was a link on Dave's Video Game Classics that > had a link for a site that had schematics for hooking up N64, PSX, NES and > other types of controllers to a serial/game port on a PC. Maybe this can > help you out. If I can find it, I'll send the URL to the list. > > > ...an excellent idea... On the AmiNET in hard/hack CD32pins.lha may be what you want. I believe it's like a 2 button joystick with all the other buttons on one pin. Eric Hyland a007193t@bc.seflin.org --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 05:58:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA30209 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16741 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 09:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16664 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 09:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 09:58:02 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.166]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA6A2C for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:04:04 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: "'Amos-List'" Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:58:58 +0100 Message-ID: <002501beeaf2$9fe7b3e0$a648a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" I am looking for a way to bring AMOSPro to the front when it gets locked behind the workbench screen and for some reason the Amiga+A key combination does not work. I tried to compile a small program that contained the line 'Amos To Front' but when executed my Amiga crashes. Does anyone have something that could help me out. Thanks. Declan. +________+______+_______ /__ ___/ ___/ ____/\ \_/ / _/___ / __/\_\/ /__/ //______/__/\_\/ \__\/ \______\__\/ The Software Factory http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/tsf.htm --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 07:06:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11982 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4716 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 11:06:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4703 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 11:06:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 11:06:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4626 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 10:52:40 -0000 Received: from u80.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.80) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 10:52:40 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990820120053.032724f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:05:03 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: <002501beeaf2$9fe7b3e0$a648a8c0@ki95142> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Declan Gorman, you smooth-talking fucker,,, >I am looking for a way to bring AMOSPro to the front when it gets locked >behind the workbench screen and for some reason the Amiga+A key combination >does not work. I tried to compile a small program that contained the line >'Amos To Front' but when executed my Amiga crashes. > >Does anyone have something that could help me out. Thanks. As far as I remember, you have to make sure you open a screen, and that screen *has* to be screen 0, or else the compiler bombs. Another reason for the compile bombing is when you compile a program with the sample bank saved in it. You have to erase bank 5 before compiling, and load it off the disk instead. Or you did when I was really into Amos anyway. Hope this helps. Cheerio Neil -- `,,`,,`,,`,,`,,`,` http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk - Nick Abbot nonsense. "Daddy, that man's looking at my slacks" http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Street/4229/ Why Bother? Archive Chris Morris meets Peter Cook. Derek & Clive audio section started. `,,`,,`,,`,,`,,`,` --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 08:46:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20096 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29319 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 12:46:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28913 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 12:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 12:45:31 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA23708 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:45:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-t1-79.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.196.79]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA11961 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:45:17 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:44:32 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Off topic: Anim Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Has anyone heard of and / or know of an animation called "Last Stand on Hoth"? It's by Craig Collins. I'd like to know where I can get it from... -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central http://boingman.cjb.net -- Amiga's comic hero! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 08:59:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA31530 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7739 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 12:59:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7414 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 12:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero2.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.53) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 12:59:00 -0000 Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero2.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16340 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-6.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.198]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03906 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:57:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990820120053.032724f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 20-Aug-99, Neil wrote: > Another reason for the compile bombing is when you compile a program with > the sample bank saved in it. You have to erase bank 5 before compiling, > and load it off the disk instead. Or you did when I was really into Amos > anyway. Hope this helps. Also you can't store icon banks that has an odd length. They must be loaded from disk aswell. -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - do you have anything to say to your fans? - you ain't seen nothin' yet! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 13:23:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13380 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4123 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 17:23:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 4117 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 17:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 17:23:24 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.129.198] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AEE0383017A; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:22:40 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:24:18 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] bits & Bobs Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hi, I'm currently trying to convert an old Mike Singleton(Lords Of Midnight & Doomdark's Revenge) designed game to the Amiga. The two previous version were written for the Speccy & the BBC. I have a problem with the bobs. Ineed a set of 5 bobs, no problem, but 8 colour sets of the bobs. Is there an easier way than having forty bobs, of changing the colour. They are all two colour and I don't fancy using paint and having 40 sets of co-ordinates cluttering up the place. I may also have the old copyright problem again. The programme was published as a type in prog in C&VG Yearbook(god only knows which year) and no programmers' names are quoted in the article, only the designer. Kind regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF and Citizen Swift Printer. Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 13:10:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05258 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10503 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 17:10:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10496 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 17:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 17:10:15 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA89804 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:10:39 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0281.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.25]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA97203 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:10:37 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37BD9BB6.C5166C7D@iol.ie> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:17:26 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <001001beea6f$95e16a40$342e63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Exterior Floppy Drive Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Eric Molyneux wrote: > > From: "Eric Molyneux" > > Hi Everone, Old Wrinkly here again. > A while back I asked > about a Hard Drive off a PC fitting the Amiga. > Now I want to know, will the external Floppy Drive I now use on my Amiga, > run on a PC.?. Not directly. The amiga floppy drives are modified pc floppy drives, so if you were to get a soldering iron at the floppydrive you could do it, but it would stop the drive from working on your amiga and theres quite a few things you would need to hack at. Id advise you just to buy a pc floppy drive. > May sound obvious to most, but I've got to ask. as it could save me a few > bob. On my pc, I baught my floppy drive for IR11 in a shop. Thats about 8.50 sterling. Of course that drive is a HD drive also... > I want to couple my Amiga to the PC via a parnet lead and the PC I will use > has no Floppy Drive, I need this of course for the software. One way would be to upload the software from one computer onto a FTP site somewhere or somewhere on the internet, then plug your modem into the other one, and download on it, then you could set up your parnet then, and you wouldnt need to repeat that. > I'd also like to enquire again, "Does anyone know where I can get Cinema 4D" I have it, somewhere on a cd. It was on a AFcd years ago. Maybe by trying to get a backissue of af you could get it ? cya, -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 20 16:18:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10585 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20589 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 20:18:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 20538 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero1.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.4) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from usr00.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.34]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24715 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:14:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-5.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.5]) by usr00.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08559 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:14:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Larsen To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:11:20 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002501beeaf2$9fe7b3e0$a648a8c0@ki95142> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.142298536.1" Subject: [amos-list] Re: Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.142298536.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Declan! Den 20-Aug-99 skrev Declan Gorman: DG> From: "Declan Gorman" DG> DG> I am looking for a way to bring AMOSPro to the front when it gets locked DG> behind the workbench screen and for some reason the Amiga+A key DG> combination does not work. I tried to compile a small program that DG> contained the line 'Amos To Front' but when executed my Amiga crashes. DG> DG> Does anyone have something that could help me out. Thanks. Have you tryed ams??? it's a part of the gui.ext I think, but it's rater smaal so I've included it, hope not it's to big a problem. -- Best Wishes Palle Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://p.larsen.homepage.dk/ ICQ: 15538608 Nick: SkodSoft Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein --BOUNDARY.142298536.1 Content-Type: application/x-lha; name="Ams.lha" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Ams.lha" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 GYEtbGgwLVQAAABUAAAAmKCkIgAAA0Ftc8mQAAAD8wAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAD 6QAAAAxD+gAmLHgABE6u/tpKgGcWIEAqaABYcgEgbf/4TqgBIDt8AAD/cE51IEFNT1MAAAAA AAPyIBEtbGg1LW8AAACIAAAAmKCkIgIACkFtcy5yZWFkbWW/MQB6U3KNtQRveAPjIQxHAzwM skcAJsSmy0tmUkqy3HKiIAACKwo41cEE1iEMeveI3ZfrFQRoUAkReHHK2EKN7QMKLdCL3GJs tY7yxjq4s5zsg40OomrB1oYYydav/Uv0Iuex/P2VkWew8dpS88n0kBuLLWxoNS1gAQAALwIA AJigpCICAAVBbXMuc0OMAWVis6225j5vrgD8NgbgOuthZAuYUssklClsuNJdQvhYoko4iJpS pJ263wbgtuIX3MQpt4dwM1UCtJx1fn/+NUaocdroDp9VxRtU8fSmegf1Tz8+Icp1v9rVNHS7 ZElHi9cYlNr9h+q1Re4evav393NWRmbk7jrZ9Bs4BdJ7HNVGdZNzGMALahlyVBJZDlvuE9kJ P4Mr8KRy3/K2L1zr/xcTw3QvIIlijhfRNB7VS70YJj0kLa70VOwPnzTHxFN2QeFfb9+/Otqd RPJT4sBDRhEkiaCi1q854BodmSuLnmD4oaaJj0AAVXuB0vuRG56hxpS9UIDydA46PhbqyV+E FPSeJ5T0Fw3CFXDKmUgR8iwR/XOHhacyMh2ZQx93fpr8eqakrYQDBjtV+9I6nDne5sR2XNRF bm8bh6h8qJtVeh2di98p8OAnXg1jkbuDg3HqAfaMDG44nBKJ9YSDfcJJqAA= --BOUNDARY.142298536.1-- From nobody Fri Aug 20 17:44:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10523 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21966 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 1999 21:44:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 21954 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 21:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 21:44:34 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.134.166] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC164C7019A; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:43:50 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:41:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37BD9BB6.C5166C7D@iol.ie> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Exterior Floppy Drive Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Peter On 20-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Peter Cahill > > Eric Molyneux wrote: >> >> From: "Eric Molyneux" >> >> Hi Everone, Old Wrinkly here again. >> I'd also like to enquire again, "Does anyone know where I can get Cinema >> 4D" > > I have it, somewhere on a cd. It was on a AFcd years ago. > Maybe by trying to get a backissue of af you could get it ? > Cinema4D was on CUCD27, the very last one they issued but they made a balls of it and the installer doesn't work and you need a registration code from Hisoft which they are now refusing to give out. However the code is the same for everyone. The correct installer is on an AFCD33, December 1998, Issue 117. They also give you Hisoft's number but don't bother as they won't give you the code. I believe that Hisoft are still selling a later edition of 4D but I've no idea of prices. Suggest you contact their web site. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF and Citizen Swift Printer. 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Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.2014618256.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [*UK Mainland ONLY*] Dear all! Sorry this isn't really to do with the mailing list but i'm putting my mobile phone up for sale so if anyone is interested then read below; Vodafone - 'Pay as you talk' for sale! Ericsson GA628 digital phone connected to the Vodafone digital network for the BEST in clear sound quality. =A35.00 built in calling credit with roughly 165 days service credit, ie you won't have to top-up for at least 165 days if you don't want to! The phone comes with belt clip, two front covers, the original one and an extra wacky yellow one worth =A34.99. Slim battery as standard with recharger, only 1hr for full charge. 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(194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA67475 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:28:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0582.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.146.70]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA60924 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:28:54 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37BDF463.9D042873@iol.ie> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:35:47 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Exterior Floppy Drive Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill roger buckley wrote: > > From: roger buckley > > Hello Peter > > On 20-Aug-99, you wrote: > Cinema4D was on CUCD27, the very last one they issued but they made a balls > of it and the installer doesn't work and you need a registration code from > Hisoft which they are now refusing to give out. However the code is the > same for everyone. The correct installer is on an AFCD33, December 1998, > Issue 117. They also give you Hisoft's number but don't bother as they > won't give you the code. I believe that Hisoft are still selling a later > edition of 4D but I've no idea of prices. Suggest you contact their web > site. > I dont think Im talking about that version, Ive got Cinema4D on a AF cd, it installed 100%, and I didnt need any reg codes, it worked perfectly for me. I think I have Cinema4d 2. -- . .. .: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/ |. : / \| | Author of : .-------// \ .-| ENViSAGE : .| / __/ \ |' `| (_/ \ |. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `' `' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElists WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 21 23:19:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA15276 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24316 invoked by alias); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23602 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 22:17:36 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.169] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A6EB62B0152; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:15:23 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Submit questions for AIO, Bjorn Lynne interview! Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Dear All, Amiga Information Online has secured an interview with the master of Amiga music, Mr. Bjorn Lynne. Famous for working on many computer game music titles, Bjorn Lynne is probably the most famous Amiga musician ever! If you have any questions you would like me to ask him then please email them to, *general@aio.co.uk* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 21 18:44:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17523 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25077 invoked by alias); 21 Aug 1999 22:42:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25058 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 22:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 22:42:38 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-073.enterprise.net [194.72.195.73]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17274 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:43:51 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:42:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990821103119.00877b60@mail> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] JamesBond net play results.... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I am pleased to say that my netplay version of JamesBond worked! What it didn't do was play nearly fast enough. It seemed that most the data packets just went straight out the window, resulting it about a 1/2 fps frame rate on the client machine :( I'm using the procedures donated by Pietro, but I think they may not work well because I converted my working irc proggy to them and it stopped working.... The other posibility, is, I'm simply trying to send too much through the internet: The server needs to send about 400-500 bytes to each client every seccond to play at an acceptable rate. This equates to around 3.6kbits per seccond, which considering most modems are 56kbits shouldn't be a problem, but, who knows? PS. The macine that was acting as a server in my tests had a super fast cable modem, I only ran one client and the ping to them was 200ms, Which is (should) be good speed. So, anyone got any idea why its so slow? Would the gui ext V2's tcp commands do a better job Pietro? Or I'm I just expecting too much from the internet? BTW. Pietro, would it be possible to make a command that sent the same TCP packet to more then one user? That'd reduce the network load 3 fold with a 4player game :) (if that is possible with tcp...) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Q: How many surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: Fish --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 22 05:52:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16948 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13289 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 1999 09:54:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13283 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 09:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO io.worldonline.be) (212.233.1.146) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 09:54:27 -0000 Received: from wol.be (Zoic@dp19-129.worldonline.be [212.233.19.129]) by io.worldonline.be (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21932 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:51:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Van Mensel To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Help Status: O X-Status: From: Johan Van Mensel Hallo all, A few questions ! How can I make a commando to puch 3 buttons at the same time ( in AMOS ) like reset CTRL/A/A How can I upload to Aminet ? Where on Internet can I find the best sites for download AMOS source files ? Can someone send me AMOS source ? Are there still AMOS programmers ? Until now I was not able to download the AMOS-list from Internet ! Where can I download and how ? A/1200 ,Voyager Vriendelijke groeten, Johan ... - E-mail: son.of.zoic@wol.be --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 22 07:31:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07436 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10953 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 1999 11:30:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10884 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 11:30:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 11:30:02 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-047.enterprise.net [194.72.196.47]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01904 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:31:31 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:30:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Help Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > From: Johan Van Mensel > > Hallo all, > > > A few questions ! > > How can I make a commando to puch 3 buttons at the > same time ( in AMOS ) like reset CTRL/A/A What, that presses them for you? You can't make amos press keys (unless you poke into the keyboard buffer?). If you want it to reset, use an extention that has a reset command (like craft) > How can I upload to Aminet ? Read the aminet readme's, they explain all. > Where on Internet can I find the best sites for download AMOS source files The amos factory: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > Can someone send me AMOS source ? You won't want any of mine, they break just about every rule of good programming :) > Are there still AMOS programmers ? Um, me? > Until now I was not able to download the AMOS-list from Internet ! > Where can I download and how ? > A/1200 ,Voyager What do you mean download the amos-list? Do you mean recieve messages from it? Dunno, maybe it was slow to sign you up? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 22 09:30:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09963 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5220 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 1999 13:28:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5211 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 13:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 13:28:47 -0000 Received: from golden.net (AS52-14-176.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.176]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA10681 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:30:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Johan Van Mensel Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:26:37 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Help Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 22-Aug-99, Johan Van Mensel wrote: > How can I make a commando to puch 3 buttons at the > same time ( in AMOS ) like reset CTRL/A/A You could use a combination of the shift keys, using keyshift. > How can I upload to Aminet ? Use an ftp program, upload to the new dir, remember to include a readme. > Where on Internet can I find the best sites for download AMOS source files ? dev/amos > Can someone send me AMOS source ? Depends on what you need. > Are there still AMOS programmers ? Yes. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 22 21:16:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA12850 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11655 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 01:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11472 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 01:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 01:15:47 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.129.183] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A0C01030294; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:15:44 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:43:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Help Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Rev. On 22-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: "Rev. Giark To You" > > On 22-Aug-99, Johan Van Mensel wrote: >> Are there still AMOS programmers ? > > Yes. > YES. Not many of us I admit but after years of Speccy Basic I found that Amos was the kind of versatile language that suits my 'spaghetti programming'. I tend to use trial and error in preference to flow charts, bad form I know, but Amos shows up my mistakes without trashing everything and as the stuff I write tends to be static I don't need the lighning speed of assembler, C or Blitz and I'm far to old to change my methods now. All my grandsons want is a program that responds accurately to their imput and IMO Amos gives programmes that stability. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF and Citizen Swift Printer. 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For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 23 05:45:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA18911 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15988 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 09:45:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15970 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 09:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.gmx.net) (194.221.183.61) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 09:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23665 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 1999 09:45:07 -0000 Received: from ppp19625.01019freenet.de (HELO gmx.net) (212.81.204.169) by mail1.gmx.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 09:45:07 -0000 Message-ID: <37C1192D.ECCC348A@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:49:33 +0200 From: "Wolfgang Bhl" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de] (Win95; I) To: "amos-list@onelist.com" Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Amos Screens on RTG? Status: O X-Status: From: "Wolfgang Bhl" Hi there, this is my first message to the list and I hope you can help me with that: Im searching for a way to display Amos screens on a screnn that is supported by my GFX Board. I dont want to use the Resolution or color depth of my GFX Board I just want to promote the Amos screens in some way. Ive tried things like ModePro but it didnt work. Could you help me? Wolfe --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 23 15:09:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04709 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25631 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 19:09:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25619 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 19:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 19:09:43 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-009.enterprise.net [194.72.195.129]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15148 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:09:42 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37C1192D.ECCC348A@gmx.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos Screens on RTG? Status: RO X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Im searching for a way to display Amos screens > on a screnn that is supported by my GFX Board. > I dont want to use the Resolution or color depth > of my GFX Board I just want to promote the > Amos screens in some way. Ive tried things > like ModePro but it didnt work. Could you > help me? Ok, you can't promote amos screens in any way, let alone to a gfx card. What you can do, is get an extention like the Intuition extention that can open a gfx card screen and copy an amos screen to it. This copying has to be done every frame, so it drops the frame rate a little, but it is currently the only way of having a real amos custom screen on a gfx card. It does work, you can see my JamesBond game for proof :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he was infected by the andromeda strain. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 23 18:05:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10543 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31520 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 22:05:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31513 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 22:04:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 22:04:59 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10680 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:05:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09510 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:05:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990820120053.032724f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Neil wrote: > From: Neil > this maybe a really old thread but... > the sample bank saved in it. You have to erase bank 5 before compiling, > and load it off the disk instead. Or you did when I was really into Amos > anyway. Hope this helps. > Very true, esp. if you want to distribute your Amos Prog to others, had this kind of problem with SuperPacMania, it bombed on other people's machines, well trashinh all the banks and loading them from disk instead did the trick, so my advice, never compile a program with banks in it, it's nothing but trouble... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 23 17:51:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24417 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14703 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14674 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 21:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe010.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.195) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 21:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19172 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 1999 21:51:15 -0000 Received: from 17.ppp3-7.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.70.17) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 21:51:15 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: roger buckley Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:47:47 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: [amos-list] bits & Bobs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id RAA24417 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=՜䰁ɽȁՍɽє4(4(ݕɔɥѕȁѡM䀘ѡ $ٔɽݥѠѡ̸4(%͕Ёԁ̰ɽЀȁ͕́ѡ̸%́ѡɔ4(4)%ȁ́ɔ݅́ɅݸȀɽչѡԁ͔4(4)MЁ 8ı 4(4)]ɔ8́ 9յȰ ́ѡȁи4(4)%ȁɽչ́Ёȁɼѡ$Ё܁ݡЁѼ4)1Н́ȁ܁ٕͥ5=LݥѠɔ ̀4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4(8%R좿 ڶZ*'Ƨ Xv44-4+Zۧy\اwrzlz-jGj+yN4Ib}@0Yohoܢoih/߮f From nobody Mon Aug 23 20:29:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05637 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7424 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 00:28:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7396 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 00:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 00:28:17 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.130.43] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A71E1AA024A; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:28:14 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:09:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: bits & Bobs Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hello Rune On 23-Aug-99, you wrote: Thanks for the advice. All the backgrounds are 0, so your help has saved my arrays getting out of control. Now I can get down to sorting the algorithms used in the BBC and Spectrum original versions. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF and Citizen Swift Printer. 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Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos Screens on RTG? Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 23-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Ok, you can't promote amos screens in any way, let alone to a gfx card. >What you can do, is get an extention like the Intuition extention that can >open a gfx card screen and copy an amos screen to it. Cough cough - gui 2 new version - cough. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I've recently been playing with Lightwave, and have produced a most excellent animated logo :) I converted it to a ham6 320x480 IFF anim, so that AMOS could play it. After writing a quick testing routine to see how fast it would play back. It started playing nice and fast, but then suddenly as soon as the lensflare came into view, the screen trashed quite spectacually and crashed. I guessed that the frame was too big, so I reserved a massive amount of memory, but it still happened. I then reduced the anim to 320x240, but again the screen got trashed just after the lensflare and for about 15 frames after that, but then returned to normal. After a bit of messing around I found that any frame over about 42k just wouldn't render. I finally had to cut the anim down to 320x200, which finally got it running. I'd really like to have it in 320x480, because it looked much nicer. So, is there any way of getting large anims to work in amos, or an extention that has support for a different format? (I really don't want to have to use an external program to play them...) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hot water is heavier than cold. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 24 13:51:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27716 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 455 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 17:50:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 51 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-051.enterprise.net [194.72.196.51]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA17667 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:50:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:49:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos Screens on RTG? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Ok, you can't promote amos screens in any way, let alone to a gfx card. >> What you can do, is get an extention like the Intuition extention that can >> open a gfx card screen and copy an amos screen to it. > > Cough cough - gui 2 new version - cough. Does it? Propperly? eg. Not like GUI Clone. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Iceland consumes more Coca-cola per capita than any other nation. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations GENEVINCENT. Our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 24 15:29:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21004 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10347 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 19:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10254 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 19:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mago.agonet.it) (195.32.124.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 19:28:02 -0000 Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@fiore78.agonet.it [195.32.126.78]) by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08480 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:29:07 +0200 From: Pietro Ghizzoni To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:35:02 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Dairymen Soft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos Screens on RTG? Status: O X-Status: From: Pietro Ghizzoni Hello Andrew On 24-Ago-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: [amos-list] Re: Amos Screens on RTG? > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >>> Ok, you can't promote amos screens in any way, let alone to a gfx >>> card. What you can do, is get an extention like the Intuition extention >>> that can open a gfx card screen and copy an amos screen to it. >> >> Cough cough - gui 2 new version - cough. > > Does it? Propperly? eg. Not like GUI Clone. Yes. Now you can copy from/to a GUI Screen to AMOS and viceversa. P.S* I need a quick reply!* The old commodore monitor *1940* is able to display PAL and DoublePAL screens?? -- Bye! !!! o o +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft __ /// Amiga 12OO | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it \\\/// 'O3O 5OMhz | | ICQ 16361472 \/// 18MB - CD4x | | | | Amos Development Group Coordinator AMIGA RULEZ! | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 24 16:39:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19099 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10794 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 20:39:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 9341 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 20:38:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 20:38:37 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id GAA21403 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:38:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-t1-50.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.196.50]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id GAA24676 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:38:38 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:37:49 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Amos pro! (fwd) Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I got an email from a bloke called Steve and his email follows. It seems a shame to waste all the work that was done, so if anyone was interested in helping him out then maybe you should contact him at the address given. I personally have not heard of the game, and really don't have time to work on it. I'm sure someone could tho ;) *** Forwarded message, originally written by Steve Bovis on 23-Aug-99 *** HI, I see by your web site that you like point & click adventures, I ask this because about 5 years ago I created a game using AMOS PRO that was nearly published by Grandslam Interactive , it was shown at Earls Court at the 96 Ects show, we had every magazine looking and doing a work in progress on the game. We had a CD32 magazine cover CD disk and an 8 page spread on the game. Alas Grandslam pulled out when the Amiga game scene started to crumble and the project got shelved! Now nearly 5 years on from its creation do you think it is worth publishing? Would you be interested in finishing the Amos Pro codeing with me? Oh by the way the game was called LIMBO of the LOST. sbovis@mclgroup.co.uk *** End of forwarded message *** -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central http://lyle.cjb.net -- Visit the Lyle Comic Site and catch up with all the latest comic strips. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 03:36:15 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32634 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28612 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 07:36:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28604 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 07:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 07:36:05 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.86]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA820 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:42:08 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:36:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01beeecc$9edee760$5648a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Re: Bringing Amos to Front Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" > From: Palle Larsen [mailto:p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk] Hello Palle, >Have you tryed ams??? it's a part of the gui.ext I think, but >it's rater smaal so I've included it, hope not it's to big a >problem. AMS worked a treat. Thanks. Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 05:21:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA02200 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14596 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 09:22:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14583 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 09:22:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.eisa.net.au) (203.166.224.55) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 09:22:43 -0000 Received: from pppm13-33.eisa.net.au (root@pppm13-33.eisa.net.au [203.166.234.33]) by mail.eisa.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA08016 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:21:50 +1000 From: "Rick Pezzimenti" Date: 25 Aug 99 19:16:07 +1000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004F2] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Amos pro! (fwd) Status: O X-Status: From: "Rick Pezzimenti" Cor blimey! i would love to work on something. i have been scratching my head for ideas, not sure what else to do > From: Leto Kauler > > I got an email from a bloke called Steve and his email follows. It > seems a shame to waste all the work that was done, so if anyone > was interested in helping him out then maybe you should contact > him at the address given. I personally have not heard of the > game, and really don't have time to work on it. I'm sure someone > could tho ;) > > *** Forwarded message, originally written by Steve Bovis on 23-Aug-99 *** > > HI, > I see by your web site that you like point & click adventures, I > ask this because about 5 years ago I created a game using AMOS PRO that > was nearly published by Grandslam Interactive , it was shown at Earls > Court at the 96 Ects show, we had every magazine looking and doing a > work in progress on the game. We had a CD32 magazine cover CD disk and > an 8 page spread on the game. Alas Grandslam pulled out when the Amiga > game scene started to crumble and the project got shelved! > > Now nearly 5 years on from its creation do you think it is worth > publishing? Would you be interested in finishing the Amos Pro codeing > with me? > > Oh by the way the game was called LIMBO of the LOST. > > sbovis@mclgroup.co.uk > > *** End of forwarded message *** > > > > -- Leto > > http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central > > http://lyle.cjb.net -- > Visit the Lyle Comic Site and catch up with all the > latest comic strips. > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" > For details, including our weekly drawing, go to > http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Susan Davis! ONElists final FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! Stay tuned for exciting new contests, sweepstakes & more at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 09:52:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17476 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1049 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 13:52:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1044 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 13:52:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.39) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 13:52:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29967 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 13:51:44 -0000 Received: from c1-55.pm4-2.lancaster.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.184.214) by mail4.desupernet.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 13:51:44 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825095250.007bda50@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:52:50 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: F1 Software Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] F1 Software Mailinglist Status: RO X-Status: From: F1 Software Ive started a mailinglist for F1 and F1 related matters. 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For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 10:06:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27077 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26926 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 14:07:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26794 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 14:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.38) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 14:07:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26128 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 14:05:54 -0000 Received: from c1-55.pm4-2.lancaster.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.184.214) by mail3.desupernet.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 14:05:54 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825100551.007bcc70@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:05:51 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: F1 Software Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] Graphician Wanted Status: RO X-Status: From: F1 Software The guy I usually work with (Gaz Hoyles) cant be reached ATM, and I was looking for someone who could design me a really awesome disklabel graphic. I want to stick with the F1 Car theme, and am looking for someone to draw me a really realistic F1 car, prefereably like a williams renault that damon hill used to drive, but im pretty open. Ideal angle is facing front-forward, with the front to the left at about 40 degrees so you can see the side of the car too. Im not fussed about the fancy stickers that they had for advertisers, but feel free to put on what you want. If you think you can help me, please let me know. Thanks. Andy "Mushroom" Kellett Owner/Operator of F1 Software & 5th Dimension Licenseware -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members, don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist! Join our community member news update ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 13:30:55 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA23538 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26639 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 17:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26601 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 17:28:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 17:28:58 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-042.enterprise.net [194.72.197.42]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29952 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:30:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:28:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990825100551.007bcc70@redrose.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Graphician Wanted Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > The guy I usually work with (Gaz Hoyles) cant be reached ATM, and I was > looking for someone who could design me a really awesome disklabel graphic. > I want to stick with the F1 Car theme, and am looking for someone to draw > me a really realistic F1 car, prefereably like a williams renault that > damon hill used to drive, but im pretty open. Ideal angle is facing > front-forward, with the front to the left at about 40 degrees so you can > see the side of the car too. Im not fussed about the fancy stickers that > they had for advertisers, but feel free to put on what you want. If you > think you can help me, please let me know. Thanks. Could you not find a picture of a real F1 car on the internet? That's what I'd do (show's how lazy I am eh? ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - 111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321 --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Aug 25 21:54:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28884 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31371 invoked by alias); 26 Aug 1999 01:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 31180 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 01:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.36) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 01:51:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 24247 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 01:53:34 -0000 Received: from c0-64.pm4-2.lancaster.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.170.184.127) by mail1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 01:53:34 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825215332.007bfe60@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:53:32 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: F1 Software In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990825100551.007bcc70@redrose.net> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Graphician Wanted Status: O X-Status: From: F1 Software At 06:28 PM 8/25/99 +0000, you wrote: > > Could you not find a picture of a real F1 car on the internet? That's what I'd do (show's how lazy I am eh? ;) > Hehe, never thought of that, hehe Andy "Mushroom" Kellett Owner/Operator of F1 Software & 5th Dimension Licenseware -- F1 Software - The Largest Amiga Licenseware Company in the Universe!! Call us today to order titles or request a free catalogue. F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett Tel. (717) 367-6210 ICQ #9701389 (Mush) AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Aug 26 13:30:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA32517 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12193 invoked by alias); 26 Aug 1999 17:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12074 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 17:30:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 17:30:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-005.enterprise.net [194.72.196.5]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA28282 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:29:57 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:28:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990825215332.007bfe60@redrose.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Graphician Wanted Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Could you not find a picture of a real F1 car on the internet? That's > what I'd do (show's how lazy I am eh? ;) >> > > Hehe, never thought of that, hehe Actually, I think I've got some photo's of F1 cars on one of my CD's, shall I see if I can find you a decent one? :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he woke up naked at the 17th hole on the golf course . --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 01:54:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23018 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 428 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 05:54:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 420 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 05:54:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 05:54:37 -0000 Received: from du-20.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.20]:1030 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:54:28 +0300 Message-ID: <006701bef051$51b9c960$14c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:57:57 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] Help needed!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, I need lots of good graphicians who love to draw all kind of pinball table objects. If you're interested send me e-mail and some of your works. The Pinball Construction Kit needs you;-9 Sasu Lintula --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 13:55:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02443 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12738 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 17:56:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12679 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 17:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 17:56:07 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-024.enterprise.net [194.72.197.24]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11568 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:55:40 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:53:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I want to be able to copy one screen onto another so that all of colour 0 is transparent, and shows through the destination screen's gfx. So far, the only way I've been able to do this is by picking the whole screen up as a bob and pasting it back down. This isn't a very good method however, so is there a better way of doing it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 15:23:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12070 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6631 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 19:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6466 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 19:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:22:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5114 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 19:22:10 -0000 Received: from 13.ppp1-17.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.74.13) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:22:10 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:16:46 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7908.2339.137790792.4" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7908.2339.137790792.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I want to be able to copy one screen onto another so that all of colo= ur 0 >is transparent, and shows through the destination screen's gfx. I made a routing that does it. I don't don't know if it's faster than getting a bob and pasting it. I guess it is. In all cases it usesless temp memory (it uses the memery of onebitplane, = that is 10k in 320*256) The routine expects the source and dest screen to be of the same size (no= t same number of colours, though) You have to give it a number of a temp-bank it can use for the mask. And = set a flag: True if the bank is to be reserved and erased; False if it is alrea= dy reserved. By the way, during the test I found a(nother) bug in the AP-compiler: Min() doesn't work with floats. Try to compile Print Min(6.0,4.0) (Result 6, should be 4) Well, here it is. Only tested a little, but it appears to work. (Copy 16 colour 320*256 to 16 colour 320*256 takes 5 vblanks on '060 afte= r compilation): -- = /=AF\ __ __ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\ _ Rune Zedele= r ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \=AF-_ Rydev=E6nget 3,3th \ / //=AF| \\/ ||=AF\ \\=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF-_ 8210 =C5rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\\|\-'/ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF \\____________ _-=AF =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\------'/||=AF=AF| \------'/ /_-=AF rune@ze= deler.dk =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\-'/ \-'/=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF =AF = Tel: +45-86750655 =AF=AF =AF=AF --BOUNDARY.7908.2339.137790792.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="blk.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uue begin 644 YAM.msg.2 M4')O8V5D=7)E(%-#4D-46U-20RQ$4U0L5$U00DY++%)%4T525D5&3%T*("`G" M0VAE8VL@=&AA="!S8W)E96YS(&%R92!S86UE('-I>F4*("!)9B!38W)E96X@4 M5VED=&@H4T-2*3P^4V-R965N(%=I9'1H*$135"D@;W(@4V-R965N($AE:6=HU M="A34D,I/#Y38W)E96X@2&5I9VAT*$135"D*("`@(%-T;W`@.B!296T@4T]5A M4D-%(&%N9"!$15-4('-CF4*N M("!%;F0@268@"B`@"B`@)T-A;&-U;&%T92!N=6UB97(@;V8@8FET<&QA;F5S/ M(&]N('-O=7)C92!A;F0@9&5S="US8W)E96X@"B`@)R@@(DUI;B@V+C`L(B!BI M96-A=7-E(&]F($A!32`[("(K,"XU(B!T;R!P2!F:7)SQ M="!P;&%N92!T;R!435!"3DLN(")/'0@20H@G M("`@3F5X="!0"B`@16YD($EF(`H@(`H@("=%'0@20H@& M($YE>'0@4`H@(`H@("=#;W!Y('-O=7)C97-C2!34D,L,"PP+%-#4E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4739 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 19:29:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4723 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 19:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:29:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6863 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 19:28:41 -0000 Received: from 29.ppp1-12.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.73.93) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:28:41 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Rune Zedeler Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:25:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: [amos-list] Transparent Screen Copying Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id PAA25863 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=ܵ՜䰁Iչiȁɽє4(4(]ɔЁ̸=ѕѕѱЁЁ́Ѽݽɬ4(4)՜4(4)MI 老9U5A19M H4)IA1 9U5A19MI 4(4)M4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4(8%R좿LӍMDE/쵬ޞ'j׬- j۫zƭ8%[:")zfޮwWڷm wrr{'zXq X߉ȚIemzƊ&& V From nobody Fri Aug 27 15:32:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13686 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6051 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 19:32:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5892 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 19:32:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:32:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7744 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 19:31:07 -0000 Received: from 10.ppp1-29.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.77.10) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 19:31:07 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Rune Zedeler Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:27:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 27-Aug-99, Rune Zedeler wrote: >Well, here it is. Only tested a little, but it appears to work. Damn, a bug! SEARCH: NUMPLNSCR REPLACE: NUMPLNSRC Sorry! -- Rune Zedeler --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 18:33:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10509 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17510 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 22:33:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17436 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 22:33:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 22:33:09 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-079.enterprise.net [194.72.195.79]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA27294 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:32:19 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:30:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I made a routing that does it. > I don't don't know if it's faster than getting a bob and pasting it. > I guess it is. > In all cases it usesless temp memory (it uses the memery of onebitplane, that > is 10k in 320*256) Well, I gave it a go and it does work, quite well infact, but it is slower then the picking up bob method, the loading time increases by a few secconds. (it doesn't seem like much, but it all adds up, and whatabout people with less then an 040?) I was thinking, could you do two procedures, one that creates and saves the mask, and then another one that loads the mask and uses it? That should speed it up a bit :) Anyway, thanks for helping ;) > By the way, during the test I found a(nother) bug in the AP-compiler: > Min() doesn't work with floats. > Try to compile > Print Min(6.0,4.0) > (Result 6, should be 4) If you 'Set Double Precision', they work fine.... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Lee Harvey Oswald's cadaver toe tag was sold at auction in 1992 for $6,600. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 19:10:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA26298 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10378 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10364 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.213] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACDE6A6018E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:10:38 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:57:40 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Anyone got Willy Beamish? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Dear All, Does anyone have the original of a point and click adventure similar to Monkey Islands called *Willy Beamish* by Sierra? I can't remember when it was released but probably some time between 1991-1994. I'm only looking to buy the original so if anyone has it and is willing to sell it please contact me. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 22:56:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11026 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13787 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 02:56:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13735 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 02:56:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:56:15 -0000 Received: from goliath (p026.rp5.space.net.au [202.168.99.27]) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21317 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:55:38 +0800 Message-ID: <37C74F8C.3484@space.net.au> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:55:08 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <006701bef051$51b9c960$14c7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Help needed!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." Hi Sasa, I've tried your ball routines and they seem to work quickly and bug free on my computer. I have an Amiga 1200 4mb Fast/2mb Chip 68020 w/ 1.6Gig HDD. I guess the best place to look at my work is by going to... http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/tainment/scrnst5.htm ..And... http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/digiart/page1.htm (just dont go to the index on this last site..it's been overwritten!!!) 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Click Here With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Aug 27 23:13:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA31077 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18998 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 03:14:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18901 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 03:14:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 03:14:35 -0000 Received: from goliath (p043.rp6.space.net.au [202.168.99.172]) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23409 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:13:09 +0800 Message-ID: <37C753B6.44D1@space.net.au> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:12:54 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <006701bef051$51b9c960$14c7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Help needed!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." Firstly a couple of corrections. Hi Sasu....(sorry about that) and the site... http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/digiart/index.htm ... you can now navigate where you want. Seeya, Andy H. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Susan Davis! ONElists final FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! Stay tuned for exciting new contests, sweepstakes & more at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 28 08:55:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA19202 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14679 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 12:55:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14661 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 12:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 12:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26265 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 12:55:13 -0000 Received: from 18.ppp1-32.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.71.82) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 12:55:13 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:51:17 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7909.867.138899600.2" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7909.867.138899600.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I was thinking, could you do two procedures, one that creates and sav= es the >mask, and then another one that loads the mask and uses it? = >That should speed it up a bit :) That should be no problem. call CT_MAKEMASK[SRC,TMPBNK] to reserve TMPBNK and create a mask in it. call CT_COPY[SRC,DST,TMPBNK] to do the copy-operation. If TMPBNK is reser= ved then it is used as a mask. If it is not reserved then CT_MAKEMASK is call= ed - and afterwards TMPBNK is erased again. That is: If you are to make a single copy then just call CT_COPY with an unused bank. If you are to do several copies then first call CT_MAKEMASK. Then call CT= _COPY the acquired number of times. Then erase the tempbank. Without the mask making 16 colour 320*256 to ditto now only takes 3.2 PAL-vbl's on '060. (With mask making it takes 4.6 vbl's) -- = /=AF\ __ __ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\ _ Rune Zedele= r ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \=AF-_ Rydev=E6nget 3,3th \ / //=AF| \\/ ||=AF\ \\=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF-_ 8210 =C5rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\\|\-'/ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF \\____________ _-=AF =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\------'/||=AF=AF| \------'/ /_-=AF rune@ze= deler.dk =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\-'/ \-'/=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF =AF = Tel: +45-86750655 =AF=AF =AF=AF --BOUNDARY.7909.867.138899600.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="blk.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uue begin 644 YAM.msg.2 M4')O8V5D=7)E($-47TU!2T5-05-+6U-20RQ435!"3DM="B`@4V-R965N(%-20 M0PH@(%-#4E<]4V-R965N(%=I9'1H(#H@4T-22#U38W)E96X@2&5I9VAT(#H@# M4T-24SU30U)(*E-#4E2!F:7)S="!P;&%N92!T;R!435!"3DLN(")/% M'0@4`H@($5N9"!)9B`*16YD(%!R;V,*"E!R\ M;V-E9'5R92!#5%]#3U!96U-20RQ$4U0L5$U00DY+70H@("=#:&5C:R!T:&%T' M('-C M/#Y38W)E96X@5VED=&@H1%-4*2!O'0@20H@($YE>'0@4`H@(`H@("=#;W!Y('-O=7)C97-C2!34D,L,"PP+%-#> M4E; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12409 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 21:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12396 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 21:34:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 21:34:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-060.enterprise.net [194.72.196.60]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10995 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:34:36 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:49:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > That is: If you are to make a single copy then just call CT_COPY with an > unused bank. > If you are to do several copies then first call CT_MAKEMASK. Then call CT_COPY > the acquired number of times. Then erase the tempbank. > > Without the mask making 16 colour 320*256 to ditto now only takes 3.2 > PAL-vbl's on '060. > (With mask making it takes 4.6 vbl's) thanks :) The routine is about as fast now, but almost certainly uses less memory. Is it possible to make it faster though? I do have an 040, and I'm just thinking as this requires lots of CPU power, what about lesser amiga's? There doesn't seem to be anywhere we can make more efficency gains, as I couldn't save the stenciled picture, I'd end up with 100's of different combos... Although, I was thinking, couldn't we use the blitter to cut the mask out of the destination screen? I would've thought the blitter'd be good at doing that kind of bitplane stuff? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Penguins can jump as high as 6 feet. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through September 17. For details go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Aug 28 18:23:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27707 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14364 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 22:22:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 14359 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 22:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.226) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 22:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 35253 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 22:23:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990828222309.35252.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.73.73.70 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:23:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.73.73.70] From: "Drew Green" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:23:05 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [amos-list] GRaphic Adventure Creator 2 (GRAC) game Status: O X-Status: From: "Drew Green" Hi everyone, This is my first post to this list, so 'Hello!' once more :) I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of: A) GRAC resources (except Andy Gibson's page B) Gfx resources C) Mods I'm doing a game in the aforementioned program, and need some graphics people to work on it. The game will be released via trogladite software (http://www.trogsoft.f9.co.uk, or www.egroups.com/groups/tsoft). If anyone feels like helping, then mail me :) I already have one gfx guy, but haven't seen any work from him yet... Cheers, ========================= Drew.Green@btinternet.com ICQ 46385140 I am Elmer Fudd of Borg, be vewy quiet, I'm assimilating wabbits. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 29 09:18:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28693 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10122 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 13:18:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 10116 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 13:18:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server1.screaming.net) (212.49.224.2) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 13:18:13 -0000 Received: from DEFIANT (dyn82-ras5.screaming.net [212.49.228.82]) by server1.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27544 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:34:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001601bef220$de4212e0$0200a8c0@DEFIANT> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:17:37 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software - Please reply to Demon address X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] ZIPs Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > This is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if you can read ibm format zip > disks on amiga? Zip disks ? You mean those big plug in jobbies ? Yup. Miggies have very little problem with ibm drives. If you have the right driver. If its the right sorta drive. Zip disks ? You mean floppies with zip files ? Yup. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS! Are you getting your ONElist news? If not, join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 29 09:14:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.247]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12464 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 550 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 13:14:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 545 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 13:14:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 13:14:46 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-11-16.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.16]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA13866 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] ZIPs Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" This is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if you can read ibm format zip disks on amiga? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 29 12:18:05 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25879 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18466 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 16:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18461 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 16:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 16:18:28 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-038.enterprise.net [194.72.195.38]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01049 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:17:56 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:15:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001601bef220$de4212e0$0200a8c0@DEFIANT> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Internet gaming... (packet problems) Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, After precious little success with getting JamesBond working on the internet, I decided to do a little test. I wrote a very simple program that sent the equivilent amount of data that JB uses to its self, then sent it back and measured how they came in...... What I found was that packets seem to arive with intervals of a few secconds, in a batch of about 20! (both the server and client program were running on my A1200 asyncronously) That meant that somewhere along the line, all my precious little data packets were buffered together, then sent in one big batch a few secconds later... Is there anyway I can stop this from happening? It kinda makes writing a real time net game a little hard when it's packets are handled like this... PS. Pietro, how's GUI v2 going? :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Aug 29 19:49:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18873 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22255 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 23:49:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22237 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 23:49:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 23:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3403 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 1999 23:49:22 -0000 Received: from 25.ppp1-2.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.78.89) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 23:49:22 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:45:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7911.1969.138365576.3" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7911.1969.138365576.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Although, I was thinking, couldn't we use the blitter to cut the mask= out >of the destination screen? I would've thought the blitter'd be good at d= oing >that kind of bitplane stuff? Yes. But coding the blitter directly from withit AMOS is for some reason very= unstable (tried that, but some random blits will be done wrong). And if you use AMOS' built in commandos to do it, you have to do some ugl= y poking around in the screen base. Well. = Been there, done that :) I assume that Leek(Screen Base)=3DLogbase(0). If that in some future AMOS will not be the case, then the program will certainly crash. Use on your own risk. On '060 it is actually a bit slower than the old program, but as all work= is done by the blitter then the speed should be the same on every Amiga. I g= uess the new program will be faster on everything else than '060. Replaced TMPBNK with TMPSCR. Don't you think that the rest of the users on this list are getting tired= of strange AMOS-programs being posted here...? Perhaps we should continue th= is off the list...? -- = /=AF\ __ __ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\ _ Rune Zedele= r ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \=AF-_ Rydev=E6nget 3,3th \ / //=AF| \\/ ||=AF\ \\=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF-_ 8210 =C5rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\\|\-'/ /=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF \\____________ _-=AF =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\------'/||=AF=AF| \------'/ /_-=AF rune@ze= deler.dk =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF\-'/ \-'/=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF =AF = Tel: +45-86750655 =AF=AF =AF=AF --BOUNDARY.7911.1969.138365576.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="blk.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uue begin 644 blk.asc M4')O8V5D=7)E($-47TU!2T5-05-+6U-20RQ435!30U)="B`@)W1U'0@H M4`H@("`@3&]K92!38W)E96X@0F%S92Q,0C`*("!%;F0@268@"B`@0G)E86L@) M3VX@"D5N9"!0F4*("!)9B!3' M8W)E96X@5VED=&@H4U)#*3P^4V-R965N(%=I9'1H*$135"D@;W(@4V-R965N= M($AE:6=H="A34D,I/#Y38W)E96X@2&5I9VAT*$135"D*("`@(%-T;W`@.B!2] M96T@4T]54D-%(&%N9"!$15-4('-CF4*("!%;F0@268@"B`@"B`@)TEF('1E;7!S8W)E96X@;F]T(&]P96YE3 M9"!T:&5N(&]P96X@:70@86YD(&UA:V4@;6%S:R`*("!42!34D,L,"PP+%-#4E; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6219 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 06:30:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6187 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 06:30:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 06:30:01 -0000 Received: from du-33.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.33]:1027 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit3662 smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:29:58 +0300 Message-ID: <001c01bef2b1$ca58c120$21c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:33:32 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, >On 28-Aug-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> Although, I was thinking, couldn't we use the blitter to cut the mask out >>of the destination screen? I would've thought the blitter'd be good at doing >>that kind of bitplane stuff? >Yes. >But coding the blitter directly from withit AMOS is for some reason very >unstable (tried that, but some random blits will be done wrong). >And if you use AMOS' built in commandos to do it, you have to do some ugly >poking around in the screen base. >Well. >Been there, done that :) >I assume that Leek(Screen Base)=Logbase(0). >If that in some future AMOS will not be the case, then the program will >certainly crash. Use on your own risk. >On '060 it is actually a bit slower than the old program, but as all work is >done by the blitter then the speed should be the same on every Amiga. I guess >the new program will be faster on everything else than '060. >Replaced TMPBNK with TMPSCR. Haven't you all got AMCAF? There's a command for masked screen copy operations, I think... It should be fast enough:) Sasu Lintula --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 02:54:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA04150 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19240 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 06:54:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19233 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 06:54:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 06:54:25 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27181 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:54:16 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA2B6C.D2EC4EC9@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:57:48 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > well overdue that the Internet changed to 8 bit protocols instead of 7 > > bit protocols and all the encoding that has to go on to cater for > > sending 8 bit data through a 7 bit protocol working over an 8 bit link. > > Wouldn't a direct TCP connection be 8 bit? That is part of my point, a direct TCP connection WILL be 8 bit, but the majority of packets travelling through the Internet are for 7 bit protocols, a lot of which are trying to send 8 bit data. What a waste of bandwidth. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 03:02:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA18850 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14824 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 07:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14816 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 07:01:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 07:01:51 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00363 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:01:53 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA2D34.278BDD41@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:05:24 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Pietro Ghizzoni wrote: > > From: Pietro Ghizzoni > > Problem... i'm on-line, and i want to play with you, but i don't know > if you're on-line and your IP address.. how can i open a connection with > your port???.... I gotta admit, I see this as a solved problem for me. I run the games site for my local cable users, all that sort of information is automatically added to my web pages by my bot. It all runs under Linux, Apache, and PHP3 with a touch of Java. That won't help any of you guys though. No, you can't see any of it, it's a private web site for BigPond cable users only. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 03:06:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11826 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 957 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 07:06:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 948 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 07:06:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 07:06:26 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02765 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:06:29 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA2E48.7DC14B61@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:10:00 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: one fang "Rev. Giark To You" wrote: > > Although I still don't see how InetD is supposed to be set up, and having > >people try to set it up on there own is asking a bit much I think... > > Bitch at the miami guy for not having any docs. I've set up my own web servers > and pop3 (mail) servers, so it is not all that difficult. Unix documentation may help, since it is probably a port of unix inetd. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 03:21:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11431 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13482 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 07:21:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 13468 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 07:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 07:21:52 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09983 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:21:50 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA31E1.D03071D3@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:25:21 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Rune Zedeler wrote: > To tell AMOS that your sprites are in only 4 colours you have to grab them > from a four colour screen. Last time I played with sprites (many many years ago) I thought they where independant of the screen size and depth, only suffering from bandwidth problems for sprites 6 & 7? Hmm, should check the hardware reference manual. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! 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Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA3451.25B0DA85@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:35:45 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] JamesBond net play results.... Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Andrew Crowe wrote: > What it didn't do was play nearly fast enough. It seemed that most the data packets just went straight out the window, resulting it about a 1/2 fps frame rate on the client machine :( Where you using TCP or UDP?, TCP gives you reliability of delivery, UDP doesn't. > PS. The macine that was acting as a server in my tests had a super fast cable modem, I only ran one client and the ping to them was 200ms, Which is (should) be good speed. As a cable modem user myself, that ping sucks. But I guess you are talking about the ping from dial-up to cable, where the limiting factor is the dial up end. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. 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Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA3571.4F1492B6@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:40:33 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Crashing IFF anim... Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > I converted it to a ham6 320x480 IFF anim, so that AMOS could play it. Ham mode could be your problem, it could be that the anim doesn't have enough time to do all the calculations required to make ham mode look nice. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. 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Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA3679.AB62A69F@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:44:57 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <001c01bef2b1$ca58c120$21c7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Is dual playfield not suitable to the task? -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. 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For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 03:49:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24388 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5723 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 07:49:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 5691 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 07:49:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 07:49:11 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA22873 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:49:16 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA384F.BFD69B13@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:52:47 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Internet gaming... (packet problems) Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > What I found was that packets seem to arive with intervals of a few secconds, in a batch of about 20! (both the server and client program were running on my A1200 asyncronously) > > That meant that somewhere along the line, all my precious little data packets were buffered together, then sent in one big batch a few secconds later... > > Is there anyway I can stop this from happening? It kinda makes writing a real time net game a little hard when it's packets are handled like this... This is probably the TCP / UDP issue again. UDP, while not guaranteeing delivery, will send the packet straight through, and is probably better for real time stuff, but you should write your own packet loss protocol on top of it. TCP has some intelligence behind it, and should guarantee delivery, but not right now if it has to resend packets. You really should get yourself a good book or something that explains all this, so you can make the proper decision about how to do it. I think the best way to do it for a real time game is to use absolute coords and UDP. If a packet gets dropped, you don't care so much coz the next one to get through will move you to the correct place anyway. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 03:57:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23499 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23658 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 07:57:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 23645 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 07:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 07:57:43 -0000 Received: from modem-101.manganese.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.101] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazchap) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11LMK4-0006me-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:57:49 +0100 From: "Gaz Griffiths (GazChap)" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CA3451.25B0DA85@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: JokerD/FX Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: JamesBond net play results.... Status: O X-Status: From: "Gaz Griffiths (GazChap)" Hi one , > Where you using TCP or UDP?, TCP gives you reliability of delivery, UDP > doesn't. I disagree. I've been playing around with Anton Reinauer's UDP_Chat funcs for Blitz2 (on Aminet) and they seem to be VERY reliable. I tried it with TCP, and about 1/2 the packets got lost on the way from my modem to the remote computer ;( Cya d00d GazChap. -- *Gareth Griffiths*: gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk Founder of *Joker Developments*: http://www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk *ICQ*: 31023012 *IRC*: GazChap/#AmIRC (Undernet) When you smell an odourless gas, it is probably carbon monoxide. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 04:52:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA23264 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28411 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 08:52:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 28403 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 08:52:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 08:52:10 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA20094 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:52:16 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-25-149.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.25.149] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37CA4713.42C7AC20@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:55:47 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: JamesBond net play results.... Status: O X-Status: From: one fang "Gaz Griffiths (GazChap)" wrote: > > From: "Gaz Griffiths (GazChap)" > > Hi one , > > > Where you using TCP or UDP?, TCP gives you reliability of delivery, UDP > > doesn't. > > I disagree. I've been playing around with Anton Reinauer's UDP_Chat funcs for > Blitz2 (on Aminet) and they seem to be VERY reliable. I tried it with TCP, and > about 1/2 the packets got lost on the way from my modem to the remote computer That is simply the difference between the design and the implementation. TCP is DESIGNED to be more reliable than UDP, coz UDP will only send the packet and forget about it according to the specs, TCP is supposed to try to ensure delivery, it's an end to end stream. UDP_Chat probably has a reliability layer on top of the UDP layer, and it looks like it works better than whatever TCP layer you used. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! 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Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 06:05:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA06807 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1390 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 10:05:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1373 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 10:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 10:05:28 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.66]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA68A9 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:11:19 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:06:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bef2cf$481d89c0$4248a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] ZIPs Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" >From: Rev. Giark To You [mailto:giark@golden.net] Hello Rev. Giark, >This is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if you can read ibm format zip >disks on amiga? Check out the following...... http://search.iomega.com/support/documents/2160.html http://search.iomega.com/support/documents/4160.html http://search.iomega.com/support/documents/4022.html Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 14:13:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20985 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7627 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 18:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7595 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 18:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 18:12:27 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-015.enterprise.net [194.72.196.135]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18344 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:12:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:10:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CA2D34.278BDD41@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: TCP commands. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Problem... i'm on-line, and i want to play with you, but i don't know >> if you're on-line and your IP address.. how can i open a connection with >> your port???.... > > I gotta admit, I see this as a solved problem for me. I run the games > site for my local cable users, all that sort of information is > automatically added to my web pages by my bot. I solved this problem by creating a simple IRC client to act as a 'forum' for game users, where they can connect to each others games through it.... (shame I can't actually get the game running over the internet... :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as Piglet took all the credit for saving the world. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 14:14:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21021 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31517 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 18:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 31509 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 18:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 18:14:05 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-015.enterprise.net [194.72.196.135]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18583 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:13:53 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:11:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CA3679.AB62A69F@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Is dual playfield not suitable to the task? no. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - A rusty car, lies in our path, just a constant reminder, of a happier past... -- Pasifica --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist's NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 14:15:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10118 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17021 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 18:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16997 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 18:14:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 18:14:35 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-015.enterprise.net [194.72.196.135]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18741 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:14:53 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CA3451.25B0DA85@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: JamesBond net play results.... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> What it didn't do was play nearly fast enough. It seemed that most the data packets just went straight out the window, resulting it about a 1/2 fps frame rate on the client machine :( > > Where you using TCP or UDP?, TCP gives you reliability of delivery, UDP > doesn't. Nope, that problem is fixed, almost no packet loss, just a syncronisation problem now.... See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as his bunge rope got tangled round his neck. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 14:23:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04550 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15662 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 18:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15655 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 18:23:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 18:23:06 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-015.enterprise.net [194.72.196.135]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA19957 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:22:56 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001c01bef2b1$ca58c120$21c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Haven't you all got AMCAF? There's a command for masked screen copy operations, I think... > It should be fast enough:) Oh yeah, it does! why was I not informed of this earlier?? :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as his internal organs were consumed by a flesh eating virus. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through September 17. For details go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 31 01:48:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA03437 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3753 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 05:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3744 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 05:48:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tantalum.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.80) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 05:48:19 -0000 Received: from host5-171-228-80.btinternet.com ([195.171.228.80] helo=btinternet.com) by tantalum.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11LgmL-0004iQ-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:48:21 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:47:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello Rune On 30-Aug-99, you wrote: > Don't you think that the rest of the users on this list are getting tired > of strange AMOS-programs being posted here...? Perhaps we should continue > this off the list...? Not at all. I may not be in a position to use these program tips now but I keep them for later reference. -- -------- NEIL IVES MALVERN UK -------- 'Amiga' - The new word for 'Personal Computer' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist's WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 16:08:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10398 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12744 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 20:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12648 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 20:08:53 -0000 Received: from modem-41.spy.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.98.169] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazchap) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11LXj0-00058U-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:08:19 +0100 From: Gaz Griffiths To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:07:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: JokerD/FX Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz Griffiths Hi Rune , On the 30-Aug-99 you muttered something about Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying if I remember correctly, so I thought I would reply! Nice of me wasn't it? > Isn't AMCAF something that you have to register to use...? I think its available free from the AMOS Factory now.. Cya d00d GazChap. -- *Gareth Griffiths*: gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk Founder of *Joker Developments*: http://www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk *ICQ*: 31023012 *IRC*: GazChap/#AmIRC (Undernet) It is physically impossible to tax us into prosperity. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist's NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 15:18:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15654 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2449 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2101 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:18:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 31622 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:04 -0000 Received: from 43.ppp1-28.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.77.171) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:18:04 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Sasu Lintula Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:09:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001c01bef2b1$ca58c120$21c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id PAA15654 Status: O X-Status: &yzW{u^d=՜䰁Mԁ1ձɽє4(4(!ٕЁԁЁ5 Qɔ́ȁ͍ͭɕ4(Ʌѥ̰$ѡ4(%Ё͡ձЁ՝4(4)94)%͸Ё5 ͽѡѡЁԁٔѼɕѕȁѼ͔4(4(4(4(p}|}|p|Iչi4)}}}}}}}|qq}|qqpr|I呕ۙЀ̰Ѡ4)pqppqr|ɡ́X4(ppqp1́ɕЀɬ4(qqpqq}}}}}}}}}}}||4*pp|չ镑ȹ4(ppQ耬Դ4(4+8%R좿LCS N4Ib0K*.D+-,"0CDY"M1mrXgwri{ %z^o Xw{߉ȚIemzƊ&& V From nobody Mon Aug 30 15:18:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32475 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2294 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 2286 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:18:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31729 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 19:18:10 -0000 Received: from 43.ppp1-28.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.77.171) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:18:10 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: one fang Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:13:59 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CA31E1.D03071D3@bigpond.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Sprite problem Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 30-Aug-99, one fang wrote: >> To tell AMOS that your sprites are in only 4 colours you have to grab them >> from a four colour screen. >Last time I played with sprites (many many years ago) I thought they >where independant of the screen size and depth, only suffering from Eh: I WROTE: "grab them from a four colour screen" I DID NOT WRITE: "display them on a four colour screen" Eh, yep, they are independant of screen depth, but that has nothing to do with the depth of the screen from which they are /grabbed/ - only with the depth of the screen on which they are /shown/...! -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 15:20:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13725 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18931 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 19:19:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18864 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 19:19:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:19:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 32719 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 19:20:17 -0000 Received: from 43.ppp1-28.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.77.171) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:20:17 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: Sasu Lintula Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:17:25 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001c01bef2b1$ca58c120$21c7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 30-Aug-99, Sasu Lintula wrote: >Haven't you all got AMCAF? There's a command for masked screen copy >operations, I think... >It should be fast enough:) Nope. Isn't AMCAF something that you have to register to use...? -- Rune Zedeler --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 15:26:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01577 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27172 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 19:26:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27148 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 19:26:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fe060.worldonline.dk) (212.54.64.207) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:26:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 3035 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 19:26:19 -0000 Received: from 43.ppp1-28.image.dk (HELO zedeler.dk) (212.54.77.171) by mail010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:26:19 -0000 From: Rune Zedeler To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:23:28 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] footer on AMOS-list Status: RO X-Status: A From: Rune Zedeler ARGH! I'm tired of base64-encoded messages not working on the AMOS-list. The problem is that the footer: --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- blablablabla... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html is added to the bottom of all documents in raw ascii-format - even if the document is base64-encoded. And my mailer gets confused - and displays nothing but nonsense. Isn't it possible to fix that damn bug...? -- /\ __ __ /\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \-_ Rydevnget 3,3th \ / //| \\/ ||\ \\ -_ 8210 rhus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / \\|\-'/ / \\____________ _- \------'/||| \------'/ /_- rune@zedeler.dk \-'/ \-'/ Tel: +45-86750655 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! Click Here With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 30 18:31:08 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03535 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15330 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 22:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 15285 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 22:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay02.indigo.ie) (194.125.133.226) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 22:31:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2765 messnum 46162 invoked from network[194.125.170.87/ts01-087.naas.indigo.ie]); 30 Aug 1999 22:27:35 -0000 Received: from ts01-087.naas.indigo.ie (HELO gofree.indigo.ie) (194.125.170.87) by relay02.indigo.ie (qp 2765) with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 22:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <37CB071B.C961E15C@gofree.indigo.ie> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:35:07 +0100 From: Declan Gorman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EA5340013BDC889D12A5A181" Subject: [amos-list] Help required. Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EA5340013BDC889D12A5A181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I am hoping someone can help me out with a problem I am having with a small project I am working on. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it. Firstly I will explain exactly what my program does......It converts onelist.com digest emails to amigaguide. My reason for doing this is to submit a series of digest emails to Amiga Format for inclusion on their cover CD and amigaguide format is easier to handle and navigate through on any amiga. The problem : I can load a digest email that contains up to 19 messages and it gets processed with no problem and the resulting amigaguide file works perfectly. It is only when I load a digest email that contains 20 or more it all goes wrong. What I can determine is that a negative value is returned during the processing of message link number 3, which is incorrect and causes my program to fail and return an error. I have attached the ascii source code and a couple of digest emails. One of the digest emails contains 19 messages and the other contains 25. The following are the steps taken by my code...... The program prompts the user for a onelist.com digest email. The number of messages in the chosen digest email is determined. Unwanted text is removed from the digest email. Message links are determined and added. A header is added. Message nodes are determined and added. The resulting file is saved to disk. Thanks in advance for your help. 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network); 31 Aug 1999 07:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 07:01:48 -0000 Received: from du-11.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.11]:1026 "HELO samali" convert rfc822-to-8bit smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-CCERT: ) by alya.utu.fi with SMTP id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:01:47 +0300 Message-ID: <000201bef37f$67c962c0$0bc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:57:54 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Vs: [amos-list] Re: Transparent Screen Copying Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, >> Isn't AMCAF something that you have to register to use...? >I think its available free from the AMOS Factory now.. >Cya d00d >GazChap. Yes, you can dowload it's latest (and last:() version also from aminet. It's cool, really:) My Pinball CK's fantasies and dreams have turned to reality;) Sasu Lintula samali@utu.fi --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 31 09:24:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06198 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12738 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 13:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 12726 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 13:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osf1.gmu.edu) (129.174.1.13) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 13:25:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (mcox4@localhost) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10531 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Cox, M." To: AMOS List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] footer on AMOS-list Status: O X-Status: From: "Cox, M." On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Rune Zedeler wrote: > I'm tired of base64-encoded messages not working on the AMOS-list. > The problem is that the footer: > Isn't it possible to fix that damn bug...? Unfortunately, it is not a bug but a feature of the list. Ads at the bottom pay for the service so it is free. I see no way of turning it off. Sorry. Michael Cox --- mcox4@gmu.edu --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 31 10:51:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA32326 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8725 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 14:50:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8708 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 14:50:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 14:50:56 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18377; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00989; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:50:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Pietro Ghizzoni cc: Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Re: Mailing-list search engine Status: RO X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Pietro Ghizzoni wrote: > Hello Scooter, > > I really like the service of your mailing-list search engine, and so i > would like to make it a *official* resource of the AMOS Factory site. > I have been waiting for someone to mention this on the list but... Sad as it is to report, the Amos Mailing List Archive Search Site died a tragic death of Hard Drive Failure a few weeks ago. I would love the oppurtunity to re-work the site on another server. I wrote it with Perl so it would most likely need a unix server, anybody got access to one?? I kind of did it stupid style last time, a real brute force method which I think contributed to the HD failure (it was accessing literally 10,000+ files per search, death on that old HD's motor. I think it was a great service, used it several times myself and would love to see it back up, but actually the delay in anyone mentioning the fall of it makes me wonder if it was very widely used. > You'll credited for the service.... > Just the oppurtunity to give something back years of help, hints and fun would be worth it. :) Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Aug 31 18:55:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00688 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 851 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 22:56:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 846 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-016.enterprise.net [194.72.195.16]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21948 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:55:30 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:11:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37CB071B.C961E15C@gofree.indigo.ie> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Help required. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I am hoping someone can help me out with a problem I am having with a > small project I am working on. If anyone could help I would really > appreciate it. Ok, the problem with it is not the number of mails in the things, it's the size of the source file: Changing the number of mails in the first file to 25+ doesn't break it, also deleting some of the mails on the other file fixes it. It also crashes a heck of a lot. Although I couldn't find exactly what was wrong, it's probably after a certain size source file overwrites the wrong part of the memory, mucking the program up. I'm afraid I can't find the prob, so I can only suggest that you should go over the code carefully, and maybe re-design with a more stable search/replace system... See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html