From nobody Thu Jul 1 11:37:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10500 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24702 invoked by alias); 1 Jul 1999 15:37:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24566 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 15:37:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 15:37:32 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0040.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.40]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA06903 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:37:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 17:32:18 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990630175229.23047.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli I finally got around to testing all of the algorithms suggested:) The only one that seems accurately is Claudes:) The Michener algorithm seems totally identical to the amos/turboplus routines:) now for the task of figuring out what it's doing...:)) btw for those who wonder i'm trying to make curves for a vector drawing thing i'm making... (which gets considerably harder whan i have no idea how to rotate Michener generated curves:) (maybe i should have asked for a spline algorithm instead... but got a bit gobsmacked when i couldn't even draw a circle:) to Peter Cahill: It would be really nice if you could send bresnhams line and circle algorithms:) (then i could check out which algorithm is best for the intended use:) BIG thanks to the all who have helped, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 1 14:04:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20433 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30298 invoked by alias); 1 Jul 1999 18:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 30293 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from GPO2.GPO.iol.ie (GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15566 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:04:34 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0307.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.51]) by GPO2.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02106 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:04:32 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <377BBC52.BF2B7826@iol.ie> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:06:58 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: RO X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Arash Tavakoli wrote: > > From: Arash Tavakoli > > I finally got around to testing all of the algorithms suggested:) > > The only one that seems accurately is Claudes:) > The Michener algorithm seems totally identical to the amos/turboplus > routines:) > > now for the task of figuring out what it's doing...:)) Its not actually complicated. I can explain it if you like ;oP > btw for those who wonder i'm trying to make curves for a vector drawing thing > i'm making... (which gets considerably harder whan i have no idea how to > rotate Michener generated curves:) > (maybe i should have asked for a spline algorithm instead... but got a bit > gobsmacked when i couldn't even draw a circle:) If you need rotation, you should get a Ellipse routine, not circle. > to Peter Cahill: > It would be really nice if you could send bresnhams line and circle > algorithms:) > (then i could check out which algorithm is best for the intended use:) Ok, Ill code them up for you later. The "Michener" looks like just a copy of the bresnhams ones. The OS and AMOS and everything use the origional bresnham ones cos they rock :) > BIG thanks to the all who have helped, no problem, thats what were here for ;) -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 180,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 1 17:09:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08777 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18626 invoked by alias); 1 Jul 1999 21:08:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18581 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 21:08:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 21:08:37 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-61-122.btinternet.com [195.99.61.122]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA30932 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:08:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003501bec405$f77875e0$7a3d63c3@default> From: "Eric" To: "Amos List" Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:07:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Hard Disk Status: RO X-Status: From: "Eric" Eric (Old Wrinkly) Here, Thanks everyone for help and advise, lets hope I don't send my Miggy into orbit while poking about. TA! OLD WRINKLEY --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 1 22:54:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA23057 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 654 invoked by alias); 2 Jul 1999 02:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 643 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1999 02:54:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edtnps04.telusplanet.net) (198.161.157.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 1999 02:54:36 -0000 Received: from edtntnt1-port-314.agt.net ([161.184.193.60]:1425 "EHLO telusplanet.net") by smtp1.telusplanet.net with ESMTP id <28573-28062>; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:54:18 -0600 Message-ID: <377C2967.C77A48F6@telusplanet.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:52:25 -0600 From: Dale Hymanyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <003501bec405$f77875e0$7a3d63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Looking to buy AMOS Pro? Status: O X-Status: From: Dale Hymanyk Found this message today, in case anyone's looking for one: Subject: FS Amiga Programming Tools Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:44:11 -0400 From: George Roland Organization: Allegheny College Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace I have a number of programming tools for Amigas I am interested in selling. Send offers or questions on these packages if interested. All items include software and documentation. SAS C, several versions Helm CanDo, several versions Director2 Blitz Basic AMOS Pro George Roland Dale --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 2 16:50:09 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17044 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24264 invoked by alias); 2 Jul 1999 20:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24233 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1999 20:50:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 1999 20:50:31 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-05-200.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.200]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26369 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:48:27 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] NetGames Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" For those of you interested, I have all the telnet RFCs for making a telnet prg. It is easy to switch this over to be a data port for netgaming. The big reason for using the telnet port, instead of opening your own, is that the telnet port is already fairly secure. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@ragemail.com 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 3 06:07:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA31257 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 06:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27037 invoked by alias); 3 Jul 1999 10:07:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27031 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 10:07:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 10:07:30 -0000 Received: from modem-20.farmer.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.159.20] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Mhw-0003fR-00; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:07:40 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: AMOS Mailing List , Blitz Mailing List , Satanic Dreams Mailing List Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Module converter Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi, Does ne1 know where I can get a SoundTracker Pro II to ProTracker module converter? The SoundTracker Pro II header is STP3, and I need it as a ProTracker to load it into blitz. Any ideas? Cheers in advance. Sorry it's offtopic!! Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* My inferiority complexes aren't as good as yours. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! http://www.onelist.com/info/news.html Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 3 08:25:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06880 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31254 invoked by alias); 3 Jul 1999 12:24:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 31161 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 12:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 12:24:42 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.193] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A39C267501FE; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:27:24 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:55:26 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Andrew, On 27-Jun-99, you wrote: > · Blast Force Ok i like this :) > · Demolition Man (um, actually I think that name' s taken! dang) Wasn't that a film? > So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better one? please? Ermm, these sound good to me, AIO Bomber man Bomber "you can download aio from www.aio.co.uk" blast Hey why not take a look at AIO magazine and then play this bomber game thingy? or HWNTALAAMATPTBGT? Ok, they sound good to me :) Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Find people who care about what you care about. http://www.onelist.com At ONElist: your connection to community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 3 07:58:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32143 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19664 invoked by alias); 3 Jul 1999 11:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19659 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 11:58:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 11:58:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-073.enterprise.net [194.72.196.73]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20012 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:58:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:57:12 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Module converter Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Hi, > Does ne1 know where I can get a SoundTracker Pro II to ProTracker > module converter? The SoundTracker Pro II header is STP3, and I need > it as a ProTracker to load it into blitz. Any ideas? I think Noiseconverter may be able to do it. I rekon its included in the EaglePlayer arc. on aminet. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Why make good software, when people will buy bad. -- Bill Gates --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 3 10:22:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02070 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18865 invoked by alias); 3 Jul 1999 14:22:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18860 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 14:22:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 14:22:42 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-07-67.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.67]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07658 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 10:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Telnet Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" Here's a good question: We all know that the gui extension can open a telnet port, but how do you get it to act like a server and wait for a remote call? If I set it up to wait for a connection request (miami inetd setup) and then launch my prg, how does it know what address to connect to? Can you pass a parameter from miami/amitcp with remote address so the prg knows what address to connect to? Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@ragemail.com 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 4 14:01:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22626 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 14:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8903 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 1999 17:56:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 8896 invoked from network); 4 Jul 1999 17:56:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www200.image.dk) (212.54.64.146) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 1999 17:56:52 -0000 Received: from zedeler.dk (23.ppp3-6.image.dk [212.54.74.215]) by www200.image.dk (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12435 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:56:51 +0200 From: Rune Zedeler To: Rune Zedeler Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:50:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 02-Jul-99, Rune Zedeler wrote: > Sqr((x+1)²+y²) - r > r - Sqr((x+1)²+(y-1)²) >To get rid of the square roots we multiply all parts with them selves: > ((x+1)²+y²) - r² > r² - ((x+1)²+(y-1)²) >Notice that the 2 inequations are not exactly the same - but they are very >close when the numbers are close to each other. I made a test. The smallest radius on which the two routines do not do exactly the same is 2051. That is: If your circles has smaller radii than 2051 then the two routines make identical circles. If your circles are getting bigger then a few pixels now and then will be different. -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Rydevænget 3,3th \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 8210 Århus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rune@zedeler.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-86750655 ¯¯ ¯¯ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 4 08:12:53 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10338 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 08:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14437 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 1999 12:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14430 invoked from network); 4 Jul 1999 12:13:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 1999 12:13:05 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA17665 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:12:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-35.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.35]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA03078 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:12:46 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 22:12:22 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Hmm... Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Isn't there a "dl80@gmx.de" guy on the AMOS list? Their email doesn't work, and I just wanted to comment on the cool "sounds from HD" AMOS program I found on Aminet... -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 4 14:51:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13923 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 14:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14889 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 1999 18:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14877 invoked from network); 4 Jul 1999 18:51:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 1999 18:51:00 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-06-36.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.36]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA16599 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 14:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:48:44 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Jokenstein Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" Check out my new program, The Cartman Show, on aminet. It should be in game/gag as TheCartmanShow.lha. It needs 2MB CHIP (maybe 1MB if you have no startup) and a CD32 pad. It will work with just a joystick, but you won't be able to access all the functions. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@ragemail.com 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What do fashion and football have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 4 16:07:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06541 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10722 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 1999 20:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10717 invoked from network); 4 Jul 1999 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 1999 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (max01-043.enterprise.net [194.72.195.43]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13811 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:07:45 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 21:05:39 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > >> · Blast Force > > Ok i like this :) maybe so.... >> · Demolition Man (um, actually I think that name' s taken! dang) > > Wasn't that a film? yep. >> So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better one? > please? > > Ermm, these sound good to me, > > AIO Bomber man > > Bomber "you can download aio from www.aio.co.uk" blast > > Hey why not take a look at AIO magazine and then play this bomber > game thingy? or HWNTALAAMATPTBGT? > > Ok, they sound good to me :) Gimmie a couple of hundred quid and it's a deal ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Reality is for people who lack imagination. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 5 16:38:16 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14932 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22593 invoked by alias); 5 Jul 1999 20:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22585 invoked from network); 5 Jul 1999 20:37:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 1999 20:37:38 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-032.enterprise.net [194.72.197.32]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA21666 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:38:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:05:46 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Faster Blitter? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I could really do with a way of speeding the blitter ops up, and I'm wondering, doesn't AGA have a birst mode that speeds up blitter access by x4 or something? Is this always active, or if not, is there a way of accessing it from AMOS? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Fortune Cookie Say: Baseball wrong; Man with 3 balls cannot run. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 6 07:55:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA10100 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18019 invoked by alias); 6 Jul 1999 11:55:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18012 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 11:55:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www200.image.dk) (212.54.64.146) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 11:55:32 -0000 Received: from zedeler.dk (39.ppp3-7.image.dk [212.54.70.39]) by www200.image.dk (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05834 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:55:40 +0200 From: Rune Zedeler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Faster Blitter? Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Zedeler On 05-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I could really do with a way of speeding the blitter ops up, and I'm >wondering, doesn't AGA have a birst mode that speeds up blitter access by >x4 or something? Nope, the blitter is right as slow as it was in the very first A1000 :-( You probably think about the fetch modes. If you are running in high resolutions then the birplane DMA steals some time from the blitter ops - and the blitter works slower. The higher fetch mode the lesser time the DMA steals. I hardly think it possible to change the fetchmodes in AMOS. in the lowest fetchmode (in which AMOS runs) you can run in upto 16 colours lowres or 4 colours highres with full blitter speed. -- /¯\ __ __ /¯¯¯¯¯\ _ Rune Zedeler ________/ /// \\__/ \\\ ---/ \¯-_ Rydevænget 3,3th \ / //¯| \\/ ||¯\ \\¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯-_ 8210 Århus V ) / // | \ ` / || \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet - Denmark / / ¯¯¯¯¯\\|\-'/ /¯¯¯¯¯ \\____________ _-¯ ¯¯¯¯¯\------'/||¯¯| \------'/ /_-¯ rune@zedeler.dk ¯¯¯¯¯¯\-'/ \-'/¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯ Tel: +45-86750655 ¯¯ ¯¯ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 6 08:44:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08765 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10593 invoked by alias); 6 Jul 1999 12:44:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10581 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 12:44:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 12:44:36 -0000 Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05627 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:44:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-5.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.197]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28291 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:44:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 06-Jul-99, Leto Kauler wrote: > 2. How do I write data to /normal/ text files? It's possible to > make files with the PC format carriage return, but I can't see > how to make one with the standard Amiga type. > > I use -- Open Out #1,file$ : Print #1,variables Set Output 10,-1 -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - music to drown by... now i know i'm in first class! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of 180,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 6 07:36:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07868 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19227 invoked by alias); 6 Jul 1999 11:36:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19142 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 11:36:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 11:36:40 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA24964 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:36:38 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (dialup-m1-23.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.23]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA24024 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:36:36 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 20:07:25 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler 1. I've found that I can't get the mouse pointer below "XMouse= 312"! I need it to reach about 400 or so..... Is it something I'm doing wrong? I have set Limit Mouse to 400 and it still doesn't work... 2. How do I write data to /normal/ text files? It's possible to make files with the PC format carriage return, but I can't see how to make one with the standard Amiga type. I use -- Open Out #1,file$ : Print #1,variables 3. Do you think it's selfish to expect money from Amiga products? As in... maybe comic strips.... -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 6 17:57:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13429 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25733 invoked by alias); 6 Jul 1999 21:54:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15603 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 21:12:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 21:12:13 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-032.enterprise.net [194.72.196.32]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03669 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:10:15 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:54:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1196859016.1" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.1196859016.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Everybody, > 1. I've found that I can't get the mouse pointer below "XMouse= > 312"! I need it to reach about 400 or so..... Is it something > I'm doing wrong? I have set Limit Mouse to 400 and it still > doesn't work... 312 is the sprite hardware limit I think... You can use this to get round it, it moves a 'mouse pointer' in an infinite plane. The only problem is you can't have the original pointer visible. You can set its limits to whatever you like See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he stepped into the auto-sentry gun's line of sight. --BOUNDARY.1196859016.1 Content-Type: text/plain; name="infinitemouse.asc" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="infinitemouse.asc" Limit Mouse 0 OX=160 OY=100 Hide X Mouse=160 Y Mouse=100 Do Rem Start of routine X=X Mouse Y=Y Mouse If X<>160 or Y<>100 X Mouse=160 Y Mouse=100 End If OX=OX-(160-X) OY=OY-(100-Y) Rem End of routine Plot OX,OY If OX<0 : OX=0 : End If If OX>400 : OX=400 : End If If OY<0 : OY=0 : End If If OY>200 : OY=200 : End If Rem limiting routine... Print At(0,0);OX;" ";OY;" " Wait Vbl Loop --BOUNDARY.1196859016.1-- From nobody Wed Jul 7 03:26:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24337 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 03:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1033 invoked by alias); 7 Jul 1999 07:26:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1027 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 07:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mel.aone.net.au) (203.12.176.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 07:26:16 -0000 Received: from magnet.com.au (rwhiteley@d149-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.149]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA14938 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:26:19 +1000 (EST) From: Rod Whiteley To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:06:08 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Internal clipboard Status: O X-Status: From: Rod Whiteley G'Day fellas, Anyone have any idea how I can implement the internal clipboard with the GUI Ext (just to cut & paste text)? On a related theme, I remember a prog previously which let you use the miggy's 256-level clipboard which most apps seem to ignore. Any clues? Cheers, Rod Whiteley -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist. Our latest story of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 7 19:15:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA32097 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9202 invoked by alias); 7 Jul 1999 23:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9179 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 23:15:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns1x.pvt.net) (194.149.105.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 23:15:48 -0000 Received: from usa.net (phuD098.pvt.net [194.149.100.98]) by ns1x.pvt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA17561 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:14:56 +0200 From: Filip Subr To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:11:02 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Shotek Design Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] new member Status: O X-Status: From: Filip Subr hello I am new to this list and I want to ask what is latest release of Amos Basic an where I can get it thanks mLha -- ** ** *** -=ansi bY*mLha=- * * ** ** ** ** * ** ** ** ** ** ** **** *** ** ** ** ***** ** ** ** ** ** ******* ***** ***** ***** **** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *** *** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **** *** ** ** ** ** ** **** **** *** ** *** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ***** ** ***** ***** **** *** ** ** ** **** ** ** *** **** ** ** ** **** * ** ***** *** ** ** dESIGN ------------>kEEP tHE sPIRIT aLIVE - aMIGA fOREVER<------------- oK. nOW yOU cAN vISIT vOBLOZ hOME pAGE ----------[http://members.xoom.com/vobloz2/index.html]---------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 07:40:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07922 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29628 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 11:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29619 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 11:40:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 11:40:34 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA16983 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:40:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-42.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.106]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA01821 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:40:44 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:26:25 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture background.....? Thanks for the help, -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 08:03:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23779 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14207 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 12:03:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 14199 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 12:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 12:03:39 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA19477 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-42.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.106]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA13079 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:48 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: Rune Keller Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:03:21 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler >Set Output 10,-1 Well that would seem logical, and I tried it, but it doesn't work! In that AMOS doesn't recognise the command...... -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 09:51:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29211 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4455 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 13:51:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 4448 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 13:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.union-investment.de) (62.144.69.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 13:51:13 -0000 Received: by gateway.union-investment.de id m112EPp-004OzGC; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:40:41 +0200 (METDST) Received: from email.union-investment.de(192.0.2.5) by gateway-1 via smap (3.2) id xma007126; Thu, 8 Jul 99 15:40:34 +0200 Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de by email.union-investment.de with esmtp with Smail id m112ENG-001J2kC; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3784AA4D.12F69FED@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 15:40:29 +0200 From: citrone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE To: amos-list CC: Leto Kauler References: <3784A4DF.2497233C@dm.union-investment.de> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: citrone > Leto Kauler wrote: > > > From: Leto Kauler > > > > >Set Output 10,-1 > > > > Well that would seem logical, and I tried it, but it doesn't work! > > In that AMOS doesn't recognise the command...... > > > > -- Leto > > > > http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > How has ONElist changed your life? > > Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html set output is wrong, it have to be "set input 10,-1" bye citrone --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 15:40:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22449 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5500 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 19:39:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5476 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 19:39:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 19:39:29 -0000 Received: from bexley.u-net.com ([194.119.166.76]) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 112Kvu-0003Un-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:38:14 +0000 Date: 08 Jul 99 14:34:00 +0000 From: "David Smith" To: "Leto Kauler" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <725.858T38T8742741dsmith@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: "David Smith" Hello Leto, you said >Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, >maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture >background.....? Only colour 0 is transparent, so I suggest drawing the part of your bob which is see-through like the checker board below, using the X positions as the colours of your bob, and leaving the 0 positions as colour 0. In effect, this creates a `ghostly' bob with holes through which the background passes unchanged. When the bob stops moving you can optionally swap it for the fully drawn version. This is less than perfect, but it works. X0X0X0X0X 0X0X0X0X0 X0X0X0X0X 0X0X0X0X0 X0X0X0X0X David Smith -- Confession is good for the soul, but bad for the career. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 13:19:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17297 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30584 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 17:19:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 30447 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-023.enterprise.net [194.72.195.143]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25987 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:19:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:15:39 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, > maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture > background.....? You can use the classic bitmap hacks. I'm sure someone must have an example of it somewhere... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - 'Canada' is an Native American word meaning "Big Village". --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 19:10:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01697 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26429 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 23:10:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26295 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 23:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 23:10:13 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a02-0039.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.103]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA26301 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:10:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:04:47 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 08-Jul-99, Leto Kauler wrote: > Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, > maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture > background.....? You could do bitplane tricks, like only writing to certain planes or making the second half of your palette a darker/brighter copy of the first part and make the bob appear on the last bitplane:) (not really sure if what I said is technically correct, but i did manage something like that with the Set Bob command... with experimentation.. as i've never fully understood the SetBob command:) You could also use the AMCAF shadebobs and shadepixels:) (for some reason I once managed a very clever transparency of a small multicolour ship bob by using a bob grabbed in a 16 colour screen and displayed on a 32col screen, but I never figured how it happened coz I lost the source and pics when I unknowingly repartitioned my drive...) Hope this was somewhat helpful, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 8 18:24:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29591 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19610 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 1999 22:23:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 22:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 22:23:17 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-054.enterprise.net [194.72.196.54]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25385 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:23:46 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:22:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <725.858T38T8742741dsmith@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Network protocall Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Does anyone have any tips for making a multiplayer game with network support, either through serial link, or (preferably) the internet? I'm trying to add netplay support to some of my games, but I can't manage it ;( Any tips etc? By the way, has anyone every made an amos program that uses the internet to communicate with another copy of its self? Can it be done with the TCP commands in the gui ext? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Plastic flamingos outnumber live flamingos in the United States. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! http://www.onelist.com/info/news.html Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 9 04:03:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA20645 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18684 invoked by alias); 9 Jul 1999 08:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18679 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 08:03:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 08:03:46 -0000 Received: from du-9.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.9]:1027 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8477-951>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:03:38 +0300 Message-ID: <002a01bec9e2$092d2ce0$09c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:03:21 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Vs: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Leto, > >On 08-Jul-99, Leto Kauler wrote: > >> Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, >> maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture >> background.....? > > >You could do bitplane tricks, like only writing to certain planes or making the second half of your palette a darker/brighter copy of the first part and make the bob >appear on the last bitplane:) > >(not really sure if what I said is technically correct, > but i did manage something like that with the Set Bob > command... with experimentation.. as i've never fully > understood the SetBob command:) > >You could also use the AMCAF shadebobs and shadepixels:) > >(for some reason I once managed a very clever transparency > of a small multicolour ship bob by using a bob grabbed in a 16 > colour screen and displayed on a 32col screen, but I never > figured how it happened coz I lost the source and pics when I > unknowingly repartitioned my drive...) > I have that kind of routine lying in my drawer somewhere, just have to find it. I wrote it 'cause I wanted to have transparent explosions in my game. It works nicely and is fast (and uses Set Bob command)... [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! http://www.onelist.com/info/news.html Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 9 16:23:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04997 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2621 invoked by alias); 9 Jul 1999 20:22:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2616 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 20:22:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 20:22:36 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-23-113.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.113]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04226 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 10:34:33 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Network protocall Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 08-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Any tips etc? By the way, has anyone every made an amos program >that uses the internet to communicate with another copy of its self? >Can it be done with the TCP commands in the gui ext? I am wondering about that myself. I would like to know if Pietro has any upgrades with daemon commands? Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Giark To You" To: "Rev. Giark To You" Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Network protocal Status: RO X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 09-Jul-99, Rev. Giark To You wrote: >I am wondering about that myself. I would like to know if Pietro has any >upgrades with daemon commands? What I mean by that is commands that would allow the program to wait for access (monitor a port), then come on in response to the data being sent from remote. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 9 17:58:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12536 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15615 invoked by alias); 9 Jul 1999 21:59:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 15609 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 21:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 21:59:11 -0000 Received: from du-47.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.47]:1031 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8632-948>; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:58:19 +0300 Message-ID: <002901beca56$a4d56800$2fc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:00:18 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Was: Cool Effects Status: RO X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Leto, I did not find my routine for transparent explosion but instead of I wrote another code of using Set Bob -command. I know it's a bit crappy but hey, it's written in 15 minutes. -----------------------------------------8<----------- Randomize Timer Screen Open 0,320,192,16,Lowres Cls 0 : Flash Off : Curs Off ' 'Little More Time for Big Bobs Screen Display 0,,80,, ' 'Draw Bob For N=0 To 31 Ink N : Box N,N To 63-N,63-N Next N For N=1 To 4 Get Bob N,0,0 To 64,64 Next N ' 'Bitplanes Set Bob 1,0,%1, Set Bob 2,0,%10, Set Bob 3,0,%100, Set Bob 4,0,%1000, ' 'How About Starting... Cls 0 Palette $F00,$F20,$F40,$F60,$F80,$FA0,$FB0,$FC0,$FC0,$FB0,$FA0,$F80,$F60,$F40,$F20,$ F00 Shift Up 5,0,15,1 N=0 For X=0 To 300 Step 20: Ink N : Bar X,0 To X+20,192 : Inc N: Next X Dim BX(4),BY(4),DX(4),DY(4) Gosub SETUP ' 'Main Do A$=Inkey$ If A$=" " Then Gosub SETUP For N=1 To 4 Add BX(N),DX(N) : Add BY(N),DY(N) If BX(N)<0 or BX(N)>256 Then DX(N)=-DX(N) If BY(N)<0 or BY(N)>128 Then DY(N)=-DY(N) Bob N,BX(N),BY(N),N Next N Wait Vbl Loop 'Just Change to New Directions If You Happen to Push Space SETUP: For N=1 To 4 : BX(N)=Rnd(320) : BY(N)=Rnd(192) : DX(N)=Rnd(2)-1 : DY(N)=Rnd(2)-1 : Next N Return -------------------------8<------------------------------------ Ok, here's a little explanation what Set Bobs 'bitplanes' -value does: It is possible to set this value from %1 to %111111 to define which bitplanes' bits blitter can change when drawing bobs. If you set 'bitplanes'-value to %1 you will see following results: 'bitplanes' Background colour => Result %1 %0(0) %1(1) %1(1) %0(0) %10(2) %11(3) %11(3) %10(2) etc. etc. You can see what the blitter does is a bit change operation to backgrounds 1st bitplane ('bitplanes'-value). The result is that colours 0 and 1 change places in background, same as 2 and 3 up to 14 and 15 (if you have a four bitplane screen). Ok? If you set 'bitplanes'-value to %10 all effects will be on 2nd bitplane, so: %0 will be %10 0 => 2 %1 "" %11 1 => 3 %10 "" %0 2 => 0 %11 "" %1 3 => 1, and so on... I can write for you a simpler version later in which you'd be able to see better all those colour mixs. But now I have to go to sleep... [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist.com. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 02:58:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA17123 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 02:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19098 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 06:58:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19047 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 06:58:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 06:58:30 -0000 Received: from goliath (p042.rp7.space.net.au [202.168.100.43]) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12848 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:58:15 +0800 Message-ID: <3786EEF7.75A7@space.net.au> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:57:59 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <002901beca56$a4d56800$2fc7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Cool Effects Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." To get transparent bobs, save them as 8 colours and load them into a 16 colour screen. Use the SET BOB command to only draw in the first 3 planes and you will get a transparency effect. The same works for higher colour screens as long as your sprites colour planes are less than the chosen screen planes. Blended colours are made from colours higher in the palette so you may want to reserve the top 3 or 4 for exactly the right colour you desire after a blend. Screen Copy using bit patterns also works, and with logical operators such as AND OR et. al. The other option you have is to make transparent shapes from the POLYGON command setting the fill pattern so it's a checker pattern. You will see the other graphics underneath. Andy H. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! http://www.onelist.com/info/news.html Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 04:04:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA29911 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28934 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 08:04:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28928 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 08:04:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 08:04:23 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29930 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 03:04:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12699 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 03:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 03:04:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Check this out!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" For all the nay-sayers out there!! check out the new and improved: http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos This web cite can happen!! IT is already so groovey! I just need more quirks, I gotta admit it looks patently pathetic with just four links on there! Well that's why I need your help!! Come on AMOS guru's you know amos is loaded with wierd programming oddities, so send'em this way and do a turn for the whole world! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA PS: if you are wondering what is so new and improved, it's not hot graphics or fancy fonts, it's a genuine, fully functional search engine, written all by my lonesome! I want to extend the search engine to searching the entire history of messages posted to Amos-list, but the trouble is the files on the aminet lump the messages together a month at a time, I need one message at a time, other wise shifting through them would be a nightmare... Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 05:26:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA30790 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 05:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29755 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 09:26:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29748 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 09:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 09:26:22 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-033.enterprise.net [194.72.197.33]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02566 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:26:09 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:24:19 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3786EEF7.75A7@space.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cool Effects Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > To get transparent bobs, save them as 8 colours and load them into a > 16 colour screen. Use the SET BOB command to only draw in the first > 3 planes and you will get a transparency effect. What I've found is that if you pick up a bob from, say, an 8 colour screen and display it on a 32 colour screen then it is tansparent (if you use it in the right way) already, without fafing about with set bob. The same goes to screen copy, thats how I got my shading in James Bond :) (using a 64 colour screen with the right palette, and the shading drawn down then copying the 16 colour screens noto it ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he put his finger in the mains socket. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist.com. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 05:35:25 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA31514 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 05:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2669 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 09:35:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2611 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 09:35:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 09:35:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-033.enterprise.net [194.72.197.33]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03582 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:35:20 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:33:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Check this out!! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > This web cite can happen!! IT is already so groovey! > I just need more quirks, I gotta admit it looks patently > pathetic with just four links on there! > Well that's why I need your help!! > Come on AMOS guru's you know amos is loaded with wierd programming > oddities, so send'em this way and do a turn for the whole world! I'd like to submit loads to quirks that I've found over the years, shall I just email you 'em? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Alexander the Great was gay. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 08:05:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14910 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 287 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 12:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 217 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 12:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 12:04:47 -0000 Received: from powernet.co.uk (www@logger.power.net.uk [195.60.31.13]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA25092; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:00:22 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: eaborn@powernet.co.uk Sender: eaborn@powernet.co.uk To: amos-list@onelist.com X-CC-Sender: eaborn@powernet.co.uk Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:04:57 -100 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 1.8s, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <378736e9.bf2.0@powernet.co.uk> X-User-Info: 194.242.65.9 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: Re: [amos-list] re: Cool effects, etc Status: O X-Status: From: eaborn@powernet.co.uk >From: Leto Kauler >> >Thanks for all the help! I've yet to try out all these ideas, but >they sounds good.> >Also, well done to Andrew Crowe for the great results with James >Bond! I'm downloading it at the moment (hm... just stopped :( >It's great that "even" AMOS can do some impressive things...... >(even though I don't really know what the game's abouut...)> I have to agree about James Bond, it is rather a good game. I found myself playing it for ages on my own, even though it's a multi-player game! I especially like the intro and music. Steve. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get involved. Share your thoughts! http://www.onelist.com Join the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 09:25:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01529 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3065 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 13:25:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3054 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 13:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 13:25:09 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-058.enterprise.net [194.72.195.178]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA27172 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:25:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:23:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cool effects, etc Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Thanks for all the help! I've yet to try out all these ideas, but > they sounds good. No prob. > Also, well done to Andrew Crowe for the great results with James > Bond! I'm downloading it at the moment (hm... just stopped :( > It's great that "even" AMOS can do some impressive things...... > (even though I don't really know what the game's abouut...) Grab a copy of httpresume, it'd let you carry on d/l ing it if it stops. By the way, the game is basically a cross between Goldern Eye and Extreme Violence. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Tiger stripes are like human fingerprints - no two tigers have the same pattern of stripes. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 09:26:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03074 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11841 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 13:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 11809 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 13:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 13:26:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-058.enterprise.net [194.72.195.178]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA27327 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:26:32 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:24:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <378736e9.bf2.0@powernet.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [amos-list] re: Cool effects, etc Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I have to agree about James Bond, it is rather a good game. I found > myself playing it for ages on my own, even though it's a > multi-player game! I especially like the intro and music. Ta ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The first novel to be written on a typewriter was 'Tom Sawyer', by Mark Twain. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 10:15:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11431 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1137 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 14:15:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1128 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 14:15:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 14:15:00 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.81] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A431E6FD00CA; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:01:37 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: aio@aio.co.uk CC: just-amiga@onelist.com, craigm@choice.southern.co.nz, Ngadd@southcom.com.au, kwdjc@wf.net, paul@delaney.demon.co.uk, pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com, juneau@freenet.hut.fi, kkilfedder@iee.org, elp@algonet.se, pbrazier@yebo.co.za, skuld@inconnu.isu.edu, taoberly@mindspring.com, marianol@hotmail.com, Drac@micks-cupboard.demon.co.uk, Dikrin@Acropolis.Net, rowinggiul@tin.it, dlbenson@psnw.com, elp@algonet.se, banzi@CS.UniBO.IT, goran.cvijanovic@in2.hr, chridez@club-internet.fr, jason@albatross.co.uk, regl@qb.island.net, vgouret@ireste.fr, mik@termv.jammys.net, craig@promptus.demon.co.uk, jperez@colon.net, elmcclur@yahoo.com, amiga.eagle@england.com, joopdejong@wxs.nl, nick@nab.u-net.com, ikoloski@mpt.com.mk, msawyer@netcom.com, csonne@get2net.dk, chris@doorhand.demon.co.uk, ambartsumian@glas.apc.org, info@compcity.nl, d_rivic@usa.net, siegel@siegel.in-berlin.de, rennex@icon.fi, classic@thenet.co.uk, drstrange@usa.net, list-pr@amigazone.com, coenradi@cybercomm.nl, lairfight@softhome.net, teamamiga@thule.no, emeck@imarpe.gob.pe, morden@mcmail.com, langard@ebox.tninet.se, lyndon_c@hotmail.com, axis@distrinet.com.uy, rbiondi@mgr.com.br, pertorp@vip.cybercity.dk, letok@geocities.com, paul@valerie.u-net.com, clubbed@williams.demon.co.uk, perniolapa@bccsanteramo.it, ours@noname.fr, lsd@tekrum.com, templar@net-link.net, barry@beestonb.freeserve.co.uk, 777@eastwind.com.au, stephens@netutah.com, curtcool@image.dk, mr.wibble@bigfoot.com, rocketperson@hotmail.com, ianurie@jwu.u-net.com, sd50086@lanet.lv, nallen@shipley.ac.uk, b.j.gaskell@iti.salford.ac.uk, tng@uq.net.au, KiloTwo@netcomuk.co.uk, alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk, mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk, acexe2@iname.com, muchar@promail.pl, ant@bridgebarn.freeserve.co.uk, fb691875@er.uqam.ca, steve@brackenburgh.demon.co.uk, garyr@icon.net, ja49@rapid.co.uk, elessar@dei.unipd.it, jeroen@infothuis.nl, abodo@netnitco.net, bergei@online.no, tenbelly@netcomuk.co.uk, annsal@asan.com, smassina@yahoo.com, luke@skywalker.8m.com, mjpicard@uswest.net, ash@bbs.gu.com.au, CDHolly@yahoo.com, briakenn@avonmaitland.on.ca, jose_andias@softhome.net, idavison@bigfoot.com, Iliak_@club-internet.fr, pistosa@cci-29palms.com, ewalker@tmisnet.com, Mugwump@idt.net, chris@strachan96.freeserve.co.uk, jason@chaos.u-net.com, sxg@cae.co.uk, savoc@hotmail.com, amigadave@hotmail.com, NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk, dh0@hotmail.com, ah802@torfree.net, RMeister@Earthling.net, fpacheco@mail.wsc.nasa.gov, briakenn@avonmaitland.on.ca, ep241@aol.com, igutteridge@igutteridge.freeserve.co.uk, sikaoksennus@hotmail.com, yebbalb@netspace.net.au, duncan@aaaa94.freeserve.co.uk, jarpie@zonex.cop.fi, avellis@pmail.net, amigaone@powerh.net, gigas@bigfoot.com, crackaxlebuf@earthlink.net, samuel_byford@A242.surrart.ac.uk, mim@abyss.lodz.pdi.net, piri@online.no, SnorsleX@softhome.net, j1200@retemail.es, robandjoanne@emry.net, martin5@swipnet.se, qdu@uq.net.au, loloesp@hotmail.com, Scooby@KiloTwo.freeserve.co.uk, venom@psnw.com, johnh@calweb.com, mikety@octet.com, slong@customcpu.com, sills@free4all.co.uk, jehms@kabelfoon.nl, fsalvatini@iname.com, kludge@magma.ca, jonbykads@earthlink.net, julienmarcel@lemel.fr, v0117jm3@solent.ac.uk, smb@mersinet.co.uk, neil.ives@btinternet.com, gboyd@vaxxine.com, AndreOne@Wantree.com.au, ivang@mail.com, lightnin@xs4all.nl, wal@ukonline.co.uk, 102127.3522@compuserve.com, sfitz@alltel.net, anthonyfarrimond@cableinet.co.uk, drost@swipnet.se, kdeep@gto.net.om, jadams1@breathemail.net, nabolt@eurobell.co.uk, jandrew@ukonline.co.uk, brotheramiga@takas.lt, maverick@titan.co.nz, frallan@canit.se, engine9@ukonline.co.uk, Lunacoil@hotmail.com, Eddy.Horemans@advalvas.be, moveisr@mail.telepac.pt, rogerbu@callnetuk.com, henryo@southcom.com.au, jamz@bigpond.com, zeleca@esoterica.pt, bclarke@oberon.ark.com, cclark@surf-zone.co.uk, chris@amiga1.demon.co.uk, elf@DruidPoet.u-net.com, amos-list@onelist.com, gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk, blitz-list@netsoc.ucd.ie, stuart@digital-images.demon.co.uk, paul@blittersoft.com, amiga1@earthlink.net, andrew.korn@lineone.net, ian@ianhew.freeserve.co.uk, darrenj@enterprise.net Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:39:25 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.2014953472.1" Subject: [amos-list] Amiga/AIO competition phone line, phone and WIN! Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.2014953472.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Amiga User, A new competition line run by Amiga Information Online magazine and Sponsored by Access Technology - 0800 0 83 20 53 has now been opened. Every month a new prize will be offered and a new question asked. The prizes we will be offering are not your usual one CD or anything small but great prizes which are to do with the Amiga. This months prize is, Complete Amiga/PC audio setup including brand new dual standard 56k voice modem with built in speakerphone, headset microphone, stereo speakers, earphones and s/w for either PC or Amiga (STFax Pro or SuperVoice Pro) Worth around =A385.00 if bought in the shops. If you can answer the following question you have a GREAT chance of winning as this competition line is solely for Amiga users, *Question* : The name 'Amiga' was used as a codeword by its original inventors, but what = does it mean? 1) It's Greek for 'machine' 2) It's Spanish for 'girlfriend' 3) It's Italian for 'the very first' If you think you know the answer the call now on, *0906 613 57 50* ( Calls charges at 60p per min, Call should last no longer than 1 min ) ( ie. JUST 60p per call ) Outside UK call, *+44 906 613 57 50* For more details please read the enclosed NEWS RELEASE *GOOD LUCK!* Toodle Pip! -- = Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga= --BOUNDARY.2014953472.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="AIOphone.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="AIOphone.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _ __ _________________ __ _ _ _ /\_\ _) (_ /_/\ _ _ _\/_/ | A I O | \_\/_ Y |___ |___ Y ______| \ ___/\_________| \ \______ / \__ __/\______ / __/. ! \__/. \__/. |/ \__ \_::. _ _/::. _/::. _/ /_____|_____\_______\___________\ | -nM$| __ | general@aio.co.uk | __ ___\/_ |_ _| _\/___ \ /\/ ) ( \/\ / \/ =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF \/ http://www.aio.co.uk Aminet:Docs/Mags/AIOV25.lha - AMIGA INFORMATION ONLINE Competition Line - ( Sponsored by Access Technology - 0800 0 83 20 53 ) The new Amiga AIO Competition telephone line is now open, phone each month and stand a chance of winning some GREAT Amiga prizes. No more one CD prizes but some worth while prizes. Phone NOW on, 0906 613 57 50 ( Calls charges at 60p per min, Call should last no longer than 1 min )= ( ie. JUST 60p per call ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Outside UK phone, +44 906 613 57 50 ( Please check with your telephone company for call charges ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- THIS MONTHS PRIZE : Complete Amiga/PC audio setup including brand new dual standard 56k voic= e modem with built in speakerphone, headset microphone, stereo speakers,= earphones and s/w for either PC or Amiga (STFax Pro or SuperVoice Pro) Worth : =A385.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- THIS MONTHS QUESTION : The name 'Amiga' was used as a codeword by its original inventors, but wh= at = does it mean? 1) It's Greek for 'machine' 2) It's Spanish for 'girlfriend' 3) It's Italian for 'the very first' -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- If you think you know the answer then phone now 24 hours a day 7 days a week on, United Kingdom 0906 613 57 50 -- Rest of World +44 906 613 57 50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- [ NOTE : THIS LINE IS ONLY OPEN TO AMIGA USERS AND BECAUSE SO YOU HAVE A BIG CHANCE AT WINNING ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Contact : Email : amiga@thefree.net Competition line : 0906 613 57 50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- *** SPONSORED BY *** Access Technology Amiga and PC Freephone Support on all Products Sales Freephone: 0800 0 83 20 53 Enquiries: (0151) 475 5555 www.access.cc.st -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Amiga Information Online issue 26 out, 24th/July/1999 To subscribe free email, amiga@thefree.net= --BOUNDARY.2014953472.1-- From nobody Sat Jul 10 10:37:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29464 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27763 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 14:37:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27756 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 14:37:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 14:37:38 -0000 Received: from golden.net (AS52-18-144.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.131.144]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25507 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:37:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:30:51 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Silly Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" Check out The Cartman Show. If you've seen South Park, you know Cartman. Now you can animate him on your screen. game/gag TheCartmanShow.lha Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 10 07:40:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02298 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2916 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 1999 11:40:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 2901 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 11:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 11:40:58 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA23880 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:39:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-46.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.110]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA00129 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:39:02 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:38:31 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] re: Cool effects, etc Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Thanks for all the help! I've yet to try out all these ideas, but they sounds good. Also, well done to Andrew Crowe for the great results with James Bond! I'm downloading it at the moment (hm... just stopped :( It's great that "even" AMOS can do some impressive things...... (even though I don't really know what the game's abouut...) hehe -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist.com. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 06:40:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA17775 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23521 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 10:40:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23516 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 10:40:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 10:40:34 -0000 Received: from steve1.demon.co.uk ([193.237.1.24]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 113H2L-000AOe-0K for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:40:45 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:18:52 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amiga/AIO competition phone line, phone and WIN! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi Chris >A new competition line run by Amiga Information Online magazine and >Sponsored by Access Technology - 0800 0 83 20 53 has now been >opened. Pah! >1m0906 613 57 500m >( Calls charges at 60p per min, Call should last no longer than 1 min ) >( ie. JUST 60p per call ) This is just a scam to con money out of people... 60p per min..huh DON'T PHONE IT GUYS..!!! Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | IFA 5.15 CUP Subscriber and SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | IFA BetaTester http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Current Project(s) | None.............. Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners! http://www.onelist.com/info/news.html Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 06:47:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA21906 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26527 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 10:47:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26522 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 10:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 10:47:42 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.126] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A8CD4E9600C6; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:50:05 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:48:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Amiga/AIO competition phone line, phone and WIN! Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Stephen, On 11-Jul-99, you wrote: > This is just a scam to con money out of people... 60p per min..huh > DON'T PHONE IT GUYS..!!! Ermm, thats nice of you to say but the calls actually fund the prizes so I don't know where you get your strange ideas from. Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha *Call the AIO Competition line on : 0906 613 57 50 (60p per min)* --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist.com. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 11:03:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20589 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21628 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 15:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 21623 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 15:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 15:03:51 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a02-0045.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.109]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA09310 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:03:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:01:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amiga/AIO competition phone line, phone and WIN! Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 11-Jul-99, Chris Seward wrote: >(...) the calls actually fund the prizes (...) Just got kinda curious abt this... What happens if only 10 ppl call in? Would you be paying out of your own pocket?:) (that problem is why most non-scam competitions run with donated prizes, or the cost of the prizes comes out of the ad budget:) Good luck with it tho:) Regards, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 12:34:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16193 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32002 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 16:35:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 31997 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 16:35:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 16:35:06 -0000 Received: from du-26.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.26]:1027 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8164-948>; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:34:27 +0300 Message-ID: <002b01becbbb$bd1140e0$1ac7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:36:30 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Vs: Cool effects, etc Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi all, what I explained to Leto of Set Bob 'bitmap'-values wasn't of course correct at all. Here's real results what you get when using Set Bob -command on a screen with 4 bitplanes: 'bitplanes' bgcol result %1 0 1 1 1 2 3 3 3 4 5 5 5, etc... This happens when you use odd numbered colour in your bob. The result is opposite 1=>0, etc. when using even numbered colours. %10 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 1 4 4 5 5 6 4 7 5, etc... Like before effects are opposite when use even colours. %11 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 5 5 5 6 5 7 5 8 9, etc... This happens when you use ink 1 in your bob. If you have f.e.x colour 2 in your bob results will be: bgcol 0 to 3 => 2, 4 to 7 =>6, etc... The results'll be same for every fourth colour so there's no point using any other colours in bob than 0 to 3. %110 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 1 4 0 5 1,... ...,8 8 9 9 10 8, etc... This happens when using ink 1 (or 0). Like before the results'll change when bobs colour is other than 0/1. There's no point using more than lower eight colours for bob as the results'll be same on every 8th colours. %111 0 1 1 1 2 1,... ,...7 1 8 9 9 9, etc... Like before the result colours are dependent from bob colours. %1110 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 1,... ,...14 0 15 1 This is what I used in creating transparent explosions. All colours will be masked to those two colours used to draw bob (0/1,2/3,4/5,...). %1111 This is normal bob - all bitplanes in use. Hope this help you to create nasty effects:) btw, it's vice to use Set Bob command when you have bobs that don't use all bitplanes. Mask out all unnecessary bitplanes and you can easily double number of bobs / vbl. [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 15:38:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04535 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9021 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 19:38:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9015 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 19:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 19:38:31 -0000 Received: from steve1.demon.co.uk ([193.237.1.24]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113PR5-0002di-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:38:51 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:00:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amiga/AIO competition phone line, phone and WIN! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi Chris >Ermm, thats nice of you to say but the calls actually fund the prizes >so I don't know where you get your strange ideas from. Get your sponsors to fund it, not poor saps who fall for it... ;) Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | IFA 5.15 CUP Subscriber and SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | IFA BetaTester http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Current Project(s) | None.............. Windows: Yesterdays software TODAY! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 14:53:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29828 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8958 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 18:53:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8942 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 18:53:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 18:53:50 -0000 Received: from default (host5-171-229-181.btinternet.com [195.171.229.181]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17863 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:53:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000d01becbce$a86efca0$b5e5abc3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:51:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BECBD6.D13C9180" Subject: [amos-list] Hard Disks Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BECBD6.D13C9180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Old Wrinkly again, still on the subject of fitting a hard disk = from a PC to my Amiga. I now have the hard disk, but I'm even more = puzzled than ever. Its not just a case of making room for it (which I = am not really concerned about), but the connections. The hard disk in question is a Seagate 1GB. No. ST31081A. There is an = IDE interface connection (40 pin) and a power connection (4 pin). The = interface cable is 50mm wide. The hard disk I am taking out has an interface connection of 44 pin and = no power connection (I assume its included in the interface connection. How on earth do I work this one out? Can I get a suitable cable from one size to the other? What do I do = about the power connection and how do I find out what each of the four = pins are? I need hardly say one mistake could prove costly, so softly softly = catchy monkey. Can anyone help, in plain English please. Old Wrinkly ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BECBD6.D13C9180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
        = Old Wrinkly=20 again, still on the subject of fitting a hard disk from a PC to my = Amiga. =20 I now have the hard disk, but I'm even more puzzled than ever.  Its = not=20 just a case of making room for it (which I am not really concerned = about), but=20 the connections.
The hard disk in question is a Seagate = 1GB. No.=20 ST31081A.  There is an IDE interface connection (40 pin) and a = power=20 connection (4 pin).  The interface cable is 50mm wide.
The hard disk I am taking out has an = interface=20 connection of 44 pin and no power connection (I assume its included in = the=20 interface connection.
How on earth do I work this one = out?
Can I get a suitable cable from one = size to the=20 other? What do I do about the power connection and how do I find = out what=20 each of the four pins are?
I need hardly say one mistake could = prove costly,=20 so softly softly catchy monkey.
Can anyone help, in plain English=20 please.
       =20             Old=20 Wrinkly
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BECBD6.D13C9180-- From nobody Sun Jul 11 18:18:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00004 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2773 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 1999 22:17:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2767 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 22:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 22:17:56 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-012.enterprise.net [194.72.197.12]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23900 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:17:50 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000d01becbce$a86efca0$b5e5abc3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Hard Disks Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Old Wrinkly again, still on the subject of fitting a hard > disk from a PC to my Amiga. I now have the hard disk, but I'm even > more puzzled than ever. Its not just a case of making room for it > (which I am not really concerned about), but the connections. The > hard disk in question is a Seagate 1GB. No. ST31081A. There is an > IDE interface connection (40 pin) and a power connection (4 pin). > The interface cable is 50mm wide. Thats a standard 3.5" connection. >The hard disk I am taking out has > an interface connection of 44 pin and no power connection (I assume > its included in the interface connection. Thats a standard 2.5" connection. The 4 power connections aren't actually included, only 2 of them (2.5" hd's don't need +/- 12v) > How on earth do I work > this one out? Can I get a suitable cable from one size to the other? > What do I do about the power connection and how do I find out what > each of the four pins are? I need hardly say one mistake could prove > costly, so softly softly catchy monkey. Can anyone help, in plain > English please. You can't use the 2.5" connector with your 3.5" harddrive. You'll have to ring up power computing or someone and get an A1200 3.5" IDE cable (A1200 IDE interface -> 3.5" hd port) and power cable. (the power cable connects to the floppy power connector with a splitter for the disk drive) Hope that helps. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Iceland consumes more Coca-cola per capita than any other nation. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 11 21:42:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20910 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19776 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 1999 01:42:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19767 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 01:42:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 01:42:34 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12791; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:41:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16964; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:41:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:41:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Andrew Crowe cc: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Check this out!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Andy, YOu Betcha! Just email me, what I've been doing is just making the web-pages by cutting tex right out of emails, being sure to mention the source of course ;) Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 12 05:31:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA18774 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 05:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2864 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 1999 09:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2837 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 09:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 09:31:04 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA521D for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:29:48 +0100 Message-ID: <3789B4D1.5B34A77@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:26:41 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Cool effects? Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > From: Leto Kauler > > Is there any way to create transparency effects in AMOS? As in, > maybe a bob which is partially see-through over a picture > background.....? If I remember well here is a solution : Create a dual playfield, with the same image in back and front screens. Both screens have the same palette. If you use color 8 in a bob, you will see what's in the back screen. If you modify all colors a little bit darker for this screen, you get a nice shadow effect. If you make them brighter, you get a spotlight effect. Sorry, I've lost the sources I wrote about that, but it worked fine. I plan to use this to create à 20th-century like intro, with the DCA effect. Regards -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 12 10:10:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31534 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18694 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 1999 14:09:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 18657 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 14:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.171) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 14:09:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 42784 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jul 1999 14:08:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990712140837.42783.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.155 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:08:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.155] From: "patrick Wesseling" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:08:35 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Cool Effects Status: O X-Status: From: "patrick Wesseling" A question for Andrew! Do you have made a James Bond game? I really would like to have a copy if it. Let me know! Patrick Wesseling P.S. Amiga changed there kernel! Instead of QNX it's now Linux! Let's see and wait. I work with Linux and it's great. >From: Andrew Crowe >Reply-To: amos-list@onelist.com >To: amos-list@onelist.com >Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cool Effects >Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:24:19 +0000 > >From: Andrew Crowe > >Hi Everybody, > > > To get transparent bobs, save them as 8 colours and load them into a > > 16 colour screen. Use the SET BOB command to only draw in the first > > 3 planes and you will get a transparency effect. > > What I've found is that if you pick up a bob from, say, an 8 colour >screen and display it on a 32 colour screen then it is tansparent (if >you use it in the right way) already, without fafing about with set bob. > > The same goes to screen copy, thats how I got my shading in James >Bond :) (using a 64 colour screen with the right palette, and the >shading drawn down then copying the 16 colour screens noto it ;) > >See ya. >-- > Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing > Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 > Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! > - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - >"Bother," said Pooh, as he put his finger in the mains socket. > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >Congratulations KNICKS@ONElist.com. 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Visit our homepage and let us know! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 12 13:38:15 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11761 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5879 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 1999 17:37:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5872 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 17:37:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 17:37:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-045.enterprise.net [194.72.195.45]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26778 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:38:09 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990712140837.42783.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cool Effects Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > A question for Andrew! Do you have made a James Bond game? I really > would like to have a copy if it. Let me know! Check out my homepage ;) (http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The world's youngest recorded parents were 8 and 9 and lived in China in 1910. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details, including our weekly drawing! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 12 17:59:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30205 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14639 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 1999 21:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 14601 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 21:59:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 21:59:02 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-063.enterprise.net [194.72.195.183]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09684 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:58:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:56:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cool Effects Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I remember someone has a routine for copying bob images to and fro fastmemory, but I can't remember who, so could I please have a copy? I need someway of having a few bob images which I can use as a buffer to copy stuff from fast ram to and then display them using the standard AMOS bob routines, does anyone have a copy of it? (if not I could probably (try) to write one myself...) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Proportional to their weight, adult men are stronger than horses. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 07:39:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06139 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5077 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 11:39:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5070 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 11:39:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 11:39:54 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.163]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA3733 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:45:11 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:40:22 +0100 Message-ID: <002801becd24$7eb59a20$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" >From: Leto Kauler >If not, will there be?? Is this the sort of thing the new GUI >extension will be catering for? Hmmm, the new GUI extension seems a bit old now. Does anyone have any news on its progress? Pietro? Declan. +________+______+_______ /__ ___/ ___/ ____/\ \_/ / _/___ / __/\_\/ /__/ //______/__/\_\/ \__\/ \______\__\/ The Software Factory http://browse.to/tsf http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/tsf.htm --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist’s new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 08:40:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12729 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29198 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 12:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29188 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 12:39:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.union-investment.de) (62.144.69.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 12:39:45 -0000 Received: by gateway.union-investment.de id m1141hc-004OzSC; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:30:28 +0200 (METDST) Received: from email.union-investment.de(192.0.2.5) by gateway-1 via smap (3.2) id xma025410; Tue, 13 Jul 99 14:30:17 +0200 Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de by email.union-investment.de with esmtp with Smail id m1141eT-001J2kC; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:27:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <378B3153.37375DBB@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:30:11 +0200 From: citrone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE To: amos-list References: <3784A4DF.2497233C@dm.union-investment.de> <3784AA4D.12F69FED@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: citrone hi leto, sorry, i missunderstood your question :) if you want to write a ascii-file with amiga-returns you have to add a chr$(10) after the charakters, i.e. standart-amiga-files: open out 1,"ram:test" print #1,"bla"+chr$(10)+"bla"+chr$(10) close standart-unix-files: open out 1,"ram:test" print #1,"bla"+chr$(13)+"bla"+chr$(13) close standart-msdos-files: open out 1,"ram:test" print #1,"bla"+chr$(13)+chr$(10)+"bla"+chr$(13)+chr$(10) close you can use this to break a line when you print the output to a standart console: open out 1,"newcon:0/0/300/100//" print #1,"test"+chr$(10)+chr$(10) close hope i could helped you now Leto Kauler wrote: > You wrote: > >set output is wrong, it have to be "set input 10,-1" > > I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think you were following the > whole problem I was having. I want to know how to make AMOS create > standard text files rather than ones which use a PC-type carriage > return. > > Set Input is used to READ in files, and setting it to 10,-1 will > allow for standard Amiga "line returns". > > But how to WRITE standard returns I don't know... > > -- Leto > > http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central > http://lyle.cjb.net -- Lyle Comic Site > http://blazingiris.cjb.net -- Blazing Iris AmiSoftware --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations MilitaryEFM. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 13:31:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19838 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18786 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 17:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18778 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 17:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero2.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.53) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 17:31:26 -0000 Received: from usr00.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.34]) by cicero2.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17407 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-42.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.234]) by usr00.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA06291 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:27:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:39:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 13-Jul-99, Leto Kauler wrote: > What I'd like to know, though, is are there any current extensions > for AMOS which will allow Internet gaming? The GUI extension should be able to do the job with the TCP commands. > If so, has anyone > successfully created a game which can be played over the 'Net. Don't think so. > I think Internet play is a big deal nowadays, but Amigans don't > really seem to have many options when it comes Net games. It > would be good if we could do something about it :) The same goes for ethernet gaming! I would love to have network gaming in my stuff but just can't seem to perform the task. > My suggestion: a big AMOS tutorial on all the conventions and how > it applies to programming, etc. Hm.... of course someone would > have to know how to do it in the first place.... :| That seems to be the problem... I think Giark is looking into it, but it's a tough job. Maybe there are more guys out there with some knowledge on generel ether/inter networking? -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - mama said life's like a box a chocolates; never know what you're gonna get --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 07:31:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11011 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1812 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 11:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1788 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 11:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 11:31:16 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA12392 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:30:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-33.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.97]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA25161 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:30:51 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:08:56 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Andrew seems pretty keen on implementing Internet-play into his games, and to be honest, I'd really like to know how to! What I'd like to know, though, is are there any current extensions for AMOS which will allow Internet gaming? If so, has anyone successfully created a game which can be played over the 'Net. If not, will there be?? Is this the sort of thing the new GUI extension will be catering for? I think Internet play is a big deal nowadays, but Amigans don't really seem to have many options when it comes Net games. It would be good if we could do something about it :) My suggestion: a big AMOS tutorial on all the conventions and how it applies to programming, etc. Hm.... of course someone would have to know how to do it in the first place.... :| -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 12:05:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22210 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17511 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 16:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 17505 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 16:06:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 16:06:05 -0000 Received: from eaborn.powernet.co.uk (root@bmip151.powernet.co.uk [195.60.5.151]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA06100 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:00:58 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Steve Eaborn To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:04:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] MrE Games Status: O X-Status: From: Steve Eaborn I've released a few games onto aminet with Amos source if anyone's interested. You can find them in game/misc or use this link: http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/dirs/aminet/game/misc/MrE.lha BTW, anyone know what's wrong with the UK mirror of Aminet. I haven't been able to connect for a while now. Cheers, Steve. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 08:11:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08437 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11461 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 12:10:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 11446 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 12:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 12:10:55 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA16466 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:11:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-33.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.97]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA08575 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:11:03 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: "Rev. Giark To You" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:45:01 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Silly Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler >Check out The Cartman Show. If you've seen South Park, you know >Cartman. Now Well, I don't watch that show, but I have a fague idea how Cartman is. But I'm not really into that stuff, sorry. -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 13:46:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA10009 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23686 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 17:46:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 23678 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 17:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 17:46:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-072.enterprise.net [194.72.195.192]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA17566 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:46:46 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:40:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> What I'd like to know, though, is are there any current extensions >> for AMOS which will allow Internet gaming? > > The GUI extension should be able to do the job with the TCP > commands. The problem is not communication across TCP, its actually writing the protocall the game uses to communicate with its self: I tried rigging bomberblaster to run between two Amigas over a serial cable. It actually worked, until someone set a bomb off and the whole thing suddenly slowed right down, got totally out of sync and filled the serial buffer. Does anyone have any ideas? The only net protocall I've been able to do is SerialPaint, a very simple protocall indeed. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Men get hiccups more often than women. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What is "FRIENDS & FAMILY?" http://www.onelist.com It’s a new program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 17:31:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30670 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27235 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 21:23:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27169 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 21:23:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 21:23:23 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990713212314.GFFH25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <378BA0A4.A4A9A1A1@home.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:25:08 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Virus(?) in Poolmem and FastIPrefs! Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong "Rev. Giark To You" wrote: > > From: "Rev. Giark To You" > > On 13-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > >FastIPrefs 40.37 (11.07.99) optimized by H.-W.Schober > > filesize=17,428 > > >PoolMem 1.45 (9.7.99) > > filesize=7,672 > > >are infected(?) by a program called zakapior that does /something /on > >the internet. I have no idea what it is doing but if you have those > >installed I'd bin them straight away. Also if you have zakapior in > >your task list then I'd stop it before going on the internet and > >disable your startup programs to find what else might be infected... > > According to the scuttlebutt, it sends an email to the Amiga people saying > "Fuck you, you nazi bastards, you are killing the amiga" or words to that > effect. If you really wanne know what it says, I disassembled poolmem (from Aminet) and decoded the proggy that was in it and this text was in it: (it uses bsdsocket.library to send it) ---- MAIL FROM: RCPT TO: DATA From: Amiga Lover <> Subject: FILTHY CUNT! FUCK U NAZI CUNT - DIE AND BURN IN HELL AMIGA KILLING WHORE! ---- -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://www.altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 15:58:02 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21861 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25422 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 19:56:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 25394 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 19:56:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 19:56:52 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-035.enterprise.net [194.72.196.35]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15877 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:57:17 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:55:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Virus(?) in Poolmem and FastIPrefs! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, On the JustAmiga mailing list we have found that the following files: FastIPrefs 40.37 (11.07.99) optimized by H.-W.Schober filesize=17,428 PoolMem 1.45 (9.7.99) filesize=7,672 are infected(?) by a program called zakapior that does /something /on the internet. I have no idea what it is doing but if you have those installed I'd bin them straight away. Also if you have zakapior in your task list then I'd stop it before going on the internet and disable your startup programs to find what else might be infected... Does anyone have anymore info about this thing? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as his lungs exploded. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 18:05:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04003 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3824 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 22:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1184 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 22:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 22:03:29 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990713220316.GFHC25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:03:16 +0200 Message-ID: <378BAA06.F0DF8E42@home.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:05:10 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: [just-amiga] Found exactly what zakapior does... Status: O X-Status: From: Mark de Jong Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > ** FORWADED ** > > From: Mark de Jong > > If you really wanne know what it does, I disassembled poolmem (from > Aminet) > and decoded the proggy that was in it and this text was in it: > (it uses bsdsocket.library to send it) > ---- > MAIL FROM: > > RCPT TO: > > DATA > > From: Amiga Lover <> > > Subject: FILTHY CUNT! > > FUCK U NAZI CUNT - DIE AND BURN IN HELL AMIGA KILLING WHORE! > ---- > ** FORWADED ** I've looked closer at at and from what I've seen in the half dissasembled code I think it tries to sends one of those messages every minute If it can't find the bsdsocket.library it uses to send its message it also waits a minute before it tries to open the library again. (3000 ticks/50=60 seconds) So basiclly it waits for the user to start Maimi or AmiTCP and then keeps trying to send an email every minute to president@amiga.com It doesn't destroy files and doesn't infect virusses either, it just installs itself in memory upon loading one of the fake/altered programs. I now heard on a IRC channel that 3 programs have this 'virus': CMQ060, PoolMem 1.45 and FastIPrefs 40.37 > Well, thats what this virus does. > > Awfully nice of someone eh? He (/she?) could probably have used the time to do better things :( -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://www.altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist’s new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 16:37:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05771 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16567 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16549 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 20:37:28 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-21-28.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.28]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07215 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:37:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Declan Gorman Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002801becd24$7eb59a20$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] RE: Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 13-Jul-99, Declan Gorman wrote: >>If not, will there be?? Is this the sort of thing the new GUI >>extension will be catering for? >Hmmm, the new GUI extension seems a bit old now. >Does anyone have any news on its progress? Pietro? The last I heard, Pietro was reworking the TCP commands (perhaps adding daemon commands?). I have a beta 2.0 release that I am writing docs for, but I have not heard anything from Pietro in a long time. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 16:39:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24645 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7025 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6925 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 20:37:26 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-21-28.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.28]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07222 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: citrone Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:30:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <378B3153.37375DBB@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Limit Mouse & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 13-Jul-99, citrone wrote: >standart-amiga-files: >open out 1,"ram:test" >print #1,"bla"+chr$(10)+"bla"+chr$(10) >close or, Print #1,TXT$;Chr$(10); Remember the final ;, or the file will add the amos Chr$(13) anyway. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details, including our weekly drawing! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 16:37:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01337 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18351 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18346 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 20:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 20:37:24 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-21-28.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.28]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07229 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:33:29 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Virus(?) in Poolmem and FastIPrefs! Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 13-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >FastIPrefs 40.37 (11.07.99) optimized by H.-W.Schober > filesize=17,428 >PoolMem 1.45 (9.7.99) > filesize=7,672 >are infected(?) by a program called zakapior that does /something /on >the internet. I have no idea what it is doing but if you have those >installed I'd bin them straight away. Also if you have zakapior in >your task list then I'd stop it before going on the internet and >disable your startup programs to find what else might be infected... According to the scuttlebutt, it sends an email to the Amiga people saying "Fuck you, you nazi bastards, you are killing the amiga" or words to that effect. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 17:39:25 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA07035 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10075 invoked by alias); 13 Jul 1999 21:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10032 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 21:39:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 21:39:51 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-007.enterprise.net [194.72.197.67]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06168 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:39:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:37:13 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <378BA0A4.A4A9A1A1@home.nl> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Virus(?) in Poolmem and FastIPrefs! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > If you really wanne know what it says, I disassembled poolmem (from > Aminet) > and decoded the proggy that was in it and this text was in it: > (it uses bsdsocket.library to send it) > ---- > MAIL FROM: > > RCPT TO: > > DATA > > From: Amiga Lover <> > > Subject: FILTHY CUNT! > > > FUCK U NAZI CUNT - DIE AND BURN IN HELL AMIGA KILLING WHORE! well, thats awfully nice of them!. I suppose at least it wasn't another of those key stealing trojens, phew. Corr, poor bloke must have recieved hundreds of em! See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - When every raise is run, and the day is closing in, I don't care 'bout the world, I'm living for the light, -- Ace of Base --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What is "FRIENDS & FAMILY?" http://www.onelist.com It’s a new program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 13 21:34:05 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00792 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27827 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 01:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 27786 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 01:34:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 01:34:00 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0040.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.40]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA11053 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:34:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:32:01 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Internet gaming Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli I was just wondering... Wouldn't It be possible to use Amarquee.library in some way? (It promises hassle-free TCP network usage for programmers:) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 03:21:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA30188 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27465 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 07:21:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 27456 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 07:20:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 07:20:59 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.163]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA438E for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:26:15 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: "'Amos-List'" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:21:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000801becdc9$7becf540$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Gui Text and Windows Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello All, I have a question about Gui Text within windows. I may have missed this in the manual but I did look and I am kinda stuck at the moment, so my problem is...... I am using the Gui Text command to place text into the currently active window but this does not seem to happen as it should. The syntax for this particular command is Gui Text x,y,text$ I have two windows, Window_1 and Window_2, each window has a procedure determining what happens while it is selected and active. So within each procedure I have a counter which increases each time a window is selected and becomes active and a Gui Text command that should write the value of the counter within the window, ie. Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_1_COUNTER) for Window_1 and Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_2_COUNTER) for Window_2. So ideally whenever Window_1 is selected, the value for WIN_1_COUNTER should be displayed within Window_1 and whenever Window_2 is selected, the value for WIN_2_COUNTER should be displayed within Window_2. This is not the case, regardless of what window is selected and active, the Gui Text command places the WIN_1_COUNTER and WIN_2_COUNTER within the same window. I hope I have explained this enough and I guess my question is if this is a bug within the Gui Extension Version 1.75 or am I missing something in the manual. I do have an small example program on this issue if required. Any help would be appreciated. Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 04:33:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA03004 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20573 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 08:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20559 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 08:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 08:33:27 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by mail.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03830 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:34:00 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3CY9RKKP>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:31:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:31:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: RE: [amos-list] Gui Text and Windows Status: O X-Status: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > "Declan Gorman" wrote: > >I have two windows, Window_1 and Window_2, each window has a procedure >determining what happens while it is selected and active. So within each >procedure I have a counter which increases each time a window is selected >and becomes active and a Gui Text command that should write the value of the >counter within the window, ie. Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_1_COUNTER) for >Window_1 and Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_2_COUNTER) for Window_2. So ideally >whenever Window_1 is selected, the value for WIN_1_COUNTER should be >displayed within Window_1 and whenever Window_2 is selected, the value for >WIN_2_COUNTER should be displayed within Window_2. This is not the case, >regardless of what window is selected and active, the Gui Text command >places the WIN_1_COUNTER and WIN_2_COUNTER within the same window. I might be wrong but I beleve there's another command you have to use to change output-window. Magnus --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist’s new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 05:10:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17542 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22418 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 09:10:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 22363 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 09:10:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 09:10:59 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by mail.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04767 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:11:29 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3CY9RKR1>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:08:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:08:31 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: RE: [amos-list] Gui Text and Windows Status: O X-Status: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se >> "Declan Gorman" wrote: >> >>I have two windows, Window_1 and Window_2, each window has a procedure >>determining what happens while it is selected and active. So within each >>procedure I have a counter which increases each time a window is selected >>and becomes active and a Gui Text command that should write the value of the >>counter within the window, ie. Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_1_COUNTER) for >>Window_1 and Gui Text 10,10,str$(WIN_2_COUNTER) for Window_2. So ideally >>whenever Window_1 is selected, the value for WIN_1_COUNTER should be >>displayed within Window_1 and whenever Window_2 is selected, the value for >>WIN_2_COUNTER should be displayed within Window_2. This is not the case, >>regardless of what window is selected and active, the Gui Text command >>places the WIN_1_COUNTER and WIN_2_COUNTER within the same window. >I might be wrong but I beleve there's another command you have >to use to change output-window. OK, I did some research and found the following text in the manual: *** Instruction: Set the following graphics output. GUI GFX type,number GUI GFX sets where following graphics operations are carried out. The parameter type, can be: 0 - Window. 1 - Screen (not yet implemented). The parameter number tells which window or screen to set it to. For example, to set the current output to window 7... Gui Gfx 0,7 *** Good luck Magnus --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 05:18:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA29488 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20695 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 09:18:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20657 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 09:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 09:18:45 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.163]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA62F0 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:24:04 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:19:13 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01becdd9$f120ab80$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Gui Text and Windows Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" >From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se >OK, I did some research and found the following text in the manual: >*** >Instruction: Set the following graphics output. > > GUI GFX type,number > >GUI GFX sets where following graphics operations are carried out. The >parameter type, can be: Thanks Magnus. I guess I just did not put Gui Gfx and Gui Text together. I will try it out and let you know how it works out. Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What is "FRIENDS & FAMILY?" http://www.onelist.com It’s a new program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 09:27:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28042 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31110 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 13:27:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31100 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 13:27:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 13:27:35 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-19-184.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.131.184]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA06142 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:27:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Declan Gorman Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000801becdc9$7becf540$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Gui Text and Windows Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 14-Jul-99, Declan Gorman wrote: >WIN_2_COUNTER should be displayed within Window_2. This is not the case, >regardless of what window is selected and active, the Gui Text command >places the WIN_1_COUNTER and WIN_2_COUNTER within the same window. Gui Active X Gui Text X,Y,TXT$ It might be a different command than gui active, but, just like amos screens, you have to tell it which one to draw in first. If you do that, but just didn't mention it in your description, then I am stumped. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 14:24:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05616 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23797 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 18:23:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 23524 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 18:23:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 18:23:52 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29566 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04170 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:24:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amos Quirk => Help... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Hey All, I've officialyl changed the Amos Quirks page to the amos Help page, due largely to the nature of the "quirks" sent to me by Andy Crowe, they were more like general help than bugs in amos, but hey that's no problem! I put the new pages up (with some additions, tell me if their no good Andy) Anyway I am hard at work on setting up a searchable archive of the Mailing List records, just so I don't work so hard for nothing, there isn't such a thing out there already is there?? With permision I'd like to put the Amos Optimization Tips from the aminet onto the page, it's a really good file I'd like to put it on my search engine. Ok and again I implore everyone to check out the site and send their Amos knowledge this way! Thanks, scooter d. matott sxe BTW- Andy, I was unsure if I should include your error trapping routine, it is good, but I am worried it has some extension commands in it, Oh and while I'm thinking of it... the official amos cite or the aminet has a coy of the Amos Pro Manual, am I clear to put that jub up on the cite for searching?? thanks... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What is "FRIENDS & FAMILY?" http://www.onelist.com It's a new program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 14:25:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07451 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25325 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 18:25:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25319 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 18:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 18:25:09 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00192 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05090 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:25:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:25:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amos Help Pages... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" once more that url is: http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos enjoy!! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 14 18:28:55 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA32329 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10149 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 1999 22:29:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10063 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 22:29:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 22:29:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-067.enterprise.net [194.72.195.67]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA27507 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:28:45 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:47:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Amos Quirk => Help... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Andy, I was unsure if I should include your error trapping routine, > it is good, but I am worried it has some extension commands in it, Don't worry, its only the GUI extention. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Alexander the Great was gay. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Your anytime, anywhere sports store. Fogdog Sports. Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 16 07:12:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20377 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5261 invoked by alias); 16 Jul 1999 11:12:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 5253 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1999 11:12:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1999 11:12:14 -0000 Received: from modem-45.technetium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.21.45] helo=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk ident=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1155ui-0006Lr-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:12:24 +0100 From: Lee Marchment To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Off topic: ARexx Status: O X-Status: From: Lee Marchment Hi, I know this has nowt to do with AMOS but I'm having trouble with AREXX, i'm just starting playing around in it. Could someone tell me how to tell PPaint to grab a screen? I'm not sure how you go about Syntax's in AREXX the command is: GrabScreen TITLE ADDRESS also how do I find the Address? -- czya __ . . . ____ . . . l8r.../_ \ . . /_ / . . __ . . / /__ . __ . ____ / / . ____ /_ \ . . / ___/ ____ / /___ / __ \ / / . __ __ / __ \ / /__ . . / \ / __ \ / ____// /_/ // / / / / // / / // __/ / /\ \ / ____// /. / ____// /___ / / / // / / // \ . . . \/ .\// /__ /_/ / / . \____// /_/ //_/ /_// /\ \ . . \____\ . /_/ . . \____/ . \/ \/ lEe mARchmEnT - lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk - RGB - ICQ=28384616 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get $20 off all MotherNature brand products! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 16 13:42:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18121 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4670 invoked by alias); 16 Jul 1999 17:42:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 4651 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1999 17:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1999 17:42:27 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05721 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:42:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10564 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:42:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:42:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Where's It's At!!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" they said it couldn't be done, they said it wouldn't be done, they said it shouldn't be done, But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! Every message for the past SEVEN YEARS has been extracted and made available to you via my speedy Perl search engine! That's right over SEVEN years of Amos Mailing List activity all at your finger tips, that's over 10,000 messages coverng ever topic you could ever dream of, all made available for your viewing pleasure by humble old me! Just point your browsers to: http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ once again that's http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ Well guys let me know what you think... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, auctions, and more. Amazon.com! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 16 16:51:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17934 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15449 invoked by alias); 16 Jul 1999 20:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15440 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1999 20:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1999 20:50:40 -0000 Received: from powernet.co.uk (www@logger.power.net.uk [195.60.31.13]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA11302 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:45:59 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: eaborn@powernet.co.uk Sender: eaborn@powernet.co.uk To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:50:40 -100 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 1.8s, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <378f9b20.4eb1.0@powernet.co.uk> X-User-Info: 195.60.5.148 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [amos-list] Where's It's At!!! Status: O X-Status: From: eaborn@powernet.co.uk >From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > >they said it couldn't be done, >they said it wouldn't be done, >they said it shouldn't be done, > >But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable >AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! Wow! That's a bit neat. Now I can find all those elusive snippets of Wisdom from fellow Amos coders. >Just point your browsers to: >http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ >once again that's >http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ Excellent! Cheers, Steve. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 16 17:47:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26699 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19751 invoked by alias); 16 Jul 1999 21:46:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19706 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1999 21:46:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1999 21:46:44 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-019.enterprise.net [194.72.195.19]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19172 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:47:04 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:44:55 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Where's It's At!!! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable > AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! > Every message for the past SEVEN YEARS has been extracted > and made available to you via my speedy Perl search engine! > > That's right over SEVEN years of Amos Mailing List activity > all at your finger tips, that's over 10,000 messages > coverng ever topic you could ever dream of, all made > available for your viewing pleasure by humble old me! wu-hey, not bad. I've got a few suggestions for the system though: 1. Could you have it, instead of having the codename of the email, have its subject, date and size to identify it in the list? 2. How about stripping some of the email header? PS. If you like I could write a quick amos program to strip the headers and rename the files to its subject/date/size. Or you could, and probably do a better job of it too ;) 3. Finally, how about having an option to search all the years, as well as individual ones? anyway, great page, keep up the good work ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 18 07:28:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13074 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10249 invoked by alias); 18 Jul 1999 11:28:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10129 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 11:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 11:28:02 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA04963 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:27:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-3.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.3]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA26735 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:27:52 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:05:31 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] GUI ext, JD & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I recently downloaded JD and GUI extensions from AMOS Factory. I wanted to have a look at GUI's TCP commands but there are no docs included in the archive for them! Apparently Giark has them... if so, could you please send them to me, mate :) Regarding how to create text files with standard Amiga line returns: it seems JD ext. has a command "Jd Setoutput Amiga". The problem is, even with the ext. installed, AMOS doesn't appear to recognise the command! I put "AMOSPro_JD.Lib" in slot 22. In the JD archive, there are numerous other extensions too. What are these for, and where do they go? -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central http://lyle.cjb.net -- Lyle Comic Site http://blazingiris.cjb.net -- Blazing Iris AmiSoftware --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- The planet's eCenter for health & well-being. PlanetRX. Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 18 09:46:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03537 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14103 invoked by alias); 18 Jul 1999 13:46:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13990 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 13:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 13:46:03 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-10-204.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.204]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08106 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Leto Kauler Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7868.1351.2016821688.1" Subject: [amos-list] Re: GUI ext, JD & Text files Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7868.1351.2016821688.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18-Jul-99, Leto Kauler wrote: >I recently downloaded JD and GUI extensions from AMOS Factory. I >wanted to have a look at GUI's TCP commands but there are no docs >included in the archive for them! Apparently Giark has them... if >so, could you please send them to me, mate :) I attached the tcp docs to this message for all to get. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .--------------------------------------------= --. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! = | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ =B7SoloTrek I= II | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / = | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / =B7Cap'n Bubb= a | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty= | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace = | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! = | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast = | `--------------------------------------------= --' --BOUNDARY.7868.1351.2016821688.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="GUI-TCP.guide" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @DATABASE TCP Commands @NODE Main "GUI Extension TCP Commands" @{b}GUI Extension@{ub} @{u}TCP Commands@{uu} @{u}25/08/98@{uu} @{" Introduction " LINK "Introduction"}= @{" Commands " LINK "Commands"} @{" GUI Compiler " LINK "Compiler"} @ENDNODE @NODE "Introduction" @NEXT "Compiler" @PREV "Main" @TOC "Main" !!! o o +-----------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------+ | | | Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft | | E-Mail: ghizzo@agonet.it | | Team AMIGA | | | | Amos Professional Team Coordinator | | | +--------------------------------------+ Well met and godspeed, Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/ .--------------------------------------------= --. | ______ ______ _____ = | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of = | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II = | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / = | | / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BB= S | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072= | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173= | | = | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast = | `--------------------------------------------= --' This document was created by Giark (C. Edward Stewart) after examining th= e TCP example programs and email response from Pietro Ghizzoni. These docs cover version 1.80. @ENDNODE @NODE "Compiler" @NEXT "Commands" @PREV "Introduction" @TOC "Main" The GUI Compiler You don't need the GUI Compiler for your GUI Extension programs. You can = use the standard AMOSPro compiler without problems. The GUI Extension is a standard AMOSPro v2 Extension and so it works fine with the AMOSPro compi= ler, too. If you use the GUI compiler ALL the AMOS commands work without problems. = It is when you use Gui Amiga 1, shutting off unnecessary AMOS functions, tha= t you may run into difficulty. How does the GUI compiler work? What's the difference? The main differenc= e between the GUI and AMOSPro compilers is that the compiled code generated= by the GUI compiler hides all the AMOS "system unfriendly" code. If you zap = the code you'll see nothing AMOS related. If you zap the code generated by th= e standard AMOSPro compiler, you'll find tons of AMOS stuff, like the names= of all the AMOS extensions installed in your system and other preferences= =2E If you trace an AMOS compiled program using SnoopDOS or other programs, you'll notice other AMOS activities, like search for and freeze any other= running AMOS programs, search for the mysterious AMOS_Switcher and other stuff. The GUI Compiler removes these useless operations. If you run a virus checker together with AMOS, it will probably pop up a warning message because some system functions have been modified. For experts: - Graphics.library LoadView() only on AGA machines - Intuition.library EasyRequestArgs() - Intuition.library AutoRequest() the GUI Compiler removes them as well. So essentially the GUI compiler: - hides the AMOS rubbish in the code. - makes your AMOS programs able to run in multitasking with the other AMO= S programs. As you know you can't run two or more AMOS programs together,= because only the last one will run while the others will be freezed. No= w you can! - makes your programs more "clean" and virus checkers warnings free. Since so many AMOS tags have been removed from the code, it is not a good= idea to use it in AMOS games, for example. The GUI Compiler is specifical= ly designed for {B}Workbench{UB} applications. If your program runs in the W= orkbench environment, it doesn't need all the AMOS patches and hacks. For this rea= son, Pietro has created the GUI Compiler. If you need to open AMOS screens and related stuff, use the AMOSPro compi= ler. If you need a nice Workbench GUI for your programs, use the GUI compiler.= About the commands that don't work anymore, this isn't a GUI Compiler eff= ect. It happens if you put the Gui Amiga 1 command at the start of your progra= m. What does Gui Amiga 1 do and why don't some commands work anymore? Simple= =2E The Gui Amiga 1 command disables other AMOS internal functions in order t= o make your program a bit more OS friendly. In particular, this command rem= oves the AMOS interrupt routine. Because of this, all the VBL/interrupt-based commands/functions don't work. Mainly: - Music - Samples - AMAL - VBL commands and timer - AMOS gfx If you're creating a Workbench program, usually you don't need the above commands, so it's a good idea to disable them. If you do need them, don't call Gui Amiga 1 and everything will work as usual. Therefore, Pietro suggests that you use other extensions for music= and samples, because the AMOS music extension is really badly coded. @ENDNODE @NODE "Commands" @NEXT "Tcp Address" @PREV "Compiler" @TOC "Main" @{u}The TCP Command List@{uu} @{" =3DTcp Address " LINK "Tcp Address"} @{" =3DTcp Buffer " LINK "Tcp Buffer"} @{" =3DTcp Channel " LINK "Tcp Channel"} @{" =3DTcp Check " LINK "Tcp Check"} @{" Tcp Close " LINK "Tcp Close"} @{" Tcp Close A " LINK "Tcp Close"} @{" =3DTcp Code " LINK "Tcp Code"} @{" =3DTcp Count " LINK "Tcp Count"} @{" Tcp Download A to B *" LINK "Tcp Download"} @{" =3DTcp Error " LINK "Tcp Error"} @{" =3DTcp F Open(A,B$,C) " LINK "Tcp F Open"} @{" =3DTcp Free(A) " LINK "Tcp Free"} @{" =3DTcp Get(A,B,C) " LINK "Tcp Get"} @{" Tcp Limit A " LINK "Tcp Limit"} @{" =3DTcp Line$(A) " LINK "Tcp Line$"} @{" =3DTcp Open(A,B$) " LINK "Tcp Open"} @{" =3DTcp Packet " LINK "Tcp Packet"} @{" =3DTcp Put(A,B,C) " LINK "Tcp Put"} @{" =3DTcp Put$(A,B$) " LINK "Tcp Put$"} @{" =3DTcp Read(A,B,C,D) " LINK "Tcp Read"} @{" Tcp Remove A " LINK "Tcp Remove"} @{" Tcp Reset " LINK "Tcp Reset"} @{" =3DTcp Response " LINK "Tcp Response"} @{" =3DTcp Save(A,B,C To D)*" LINK "Tcp Save"} @{" =3DTcp Send(A,B,C,D) " LINK "Tcp Send"} @{" =3DTcp Send$(A,B$,C) " LINK "Tcp Send$"} @{" Tcp Set A,B " LINK "Tcp Set"} @{" =3DTcp Signal(A,B,C) " LINK "Tcp Signal"} @{" =3DTcp Time " LINK "Tcp Time"} @{" =3DTcp Total *" LINK "Tcp Total"} @{" Tcp Trash " LINK "Tcp Trash"} @{" =3DTcp Type " LINK "Tcp Type"} @{" =3DTcp User " LINK "Tcp Remove"} * - these commands are new and have not been fully documented yet. Use th= em at your own risk. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Address" @NEXT "Tcp Buffer" @PREV "Commands" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Address Returns the address of the last asynchronous TCP/IP packet sent. This is only useful with @{"Tcp Set" LINK "Tcp Set"}. Example: A=3DTcp Read(1,Start(10),100,0) : ADR=3DTcp Address In order to obtain the right value, you must call this command just after= the asynchronous call or at least before another asynchronous call or gui wai= t. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Buffer" @NEXT "Tcp Channel" @PREV "Tcp Address" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Buffer Returns the buffer address associated with the TCP/IP message returned by= Gui Wait. e.g if you receive the result of a read request Tcp Buffer is the address= where the data is stored. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Channel" @NEXT "Tcp Check" @PREV "Tcp Buffer" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Channel Returns the channel number associated with the TCP/IP message returned by= Gui Wait @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Check" @NEXT "Tcp Close" @PREV "Tcp Channel" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Check Check to see if there is data waiting to be read. Returns True (-1) or False (0). @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Close" @NEXT "Tcp Code" @PREV "Tcp Check" @TOC "Main" Tcp Close Close all open TCP connections Tcp Close Close TCP connection @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Code" @NEXT "Tcp Count" @PREV "Tcp Close" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Code When you receive a TCP/IP message (Gui Wait returns -9) you can obtain th= e associated code e.g. if you receive the result of a read request, Tcp Code returns the nu= mber of bytes received. If it's a write request, Tcp Code returns the number o= f bytes transferred. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Count" @NEXT "Tcp Download" @PREV "Tcp Code" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Count This function returns the number of asynchronous requests sent to the device that are waiting for responses. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Download" @NEXT "Tcp Error" @PREV "Tcp Count" @TOC "Main" Tcp Download A To B @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Error" @NEXT "Tcp F Open" @PREV "Tcp Download" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Error This function returns the DOS error code of the last error. When @{"Tcp C= ode" LINK "Tcp Code"} equals -1 there has been a transfer error. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp F Open" @NEXT "Tcp Free" @PREV "Tcp Error" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp F Open(,) Open a file to write your incoming TCP data to. e.g. X=3DTcp F Open(2,"RAM:IRC.log") @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Free" @NEXT "Tcp Get" @PREV "Tcp F Open" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Free() This will return the first free socket, starting from the specified one. = This command is useful if you have to handle a lot of TCP connections and need= to know which sockets are free for a connection. Example: You are currently using TCP channels 1, 2 and 3. A=3DTcp Free(1) A will contain 4. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Get" @NEXT "Tcp Limit" @PREV "Tcp Free" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Get(,,) This function works the same way as @{"Tcp Read" LINK "Tcp Read"} only, l= ike @{"Tcp Put" LINK "Tcp Put"}, the command is @{I}synchronous@{UI}. The program will halt and wait for a message to come from the TCP connection. This command can be set to time out by using the @{"Tcp Limit" LINK "Tcp = Limit"} command. The function returns the number of bytes read. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Limit" @NEXT "Tcp Line$" @PREV "Tcp Get" @TOC "Main" Tcp Limit Set a timeout period for @{"Tcp Get" LINK "Tcp Get"} and @{"Tcp Get$" LIN= K "Tcp Get$"} commands. If there is no data available after the specified value (the value must be set as a Wait command would be, in jiffies (50=3D1 Second (PAL) 60=3D1 Second (NTSC))),= the @{"Tcp Get" LINK "Tcp Get"} command will exit and return -1. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Line$" @NEXT "Tcp Open" @PREV "Tcp Limit" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Line$() Reads a line of text from the specified channel. As with @{"Tcp Get" LINK= "Tcp Get"}, you can specify the timeout period using @{"Tcp Limit" LINK "Tcp Limit"}. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Open" @NEXT "Tcp Packet" @PREV "Line$" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Open(,) Open a TCP channel using the port data e.g. X=3DTcp Open(1,"timequake.unterlab.org/6667") to open a port to IRC @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Packet" @NEXT "Tcp Put" @PREV "Tcp Open" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Packet Returns the Packet ID of the last TCP/IP message received. e.g. A=3DTcp Read(1,Start(10),100) B=3DTcp Send(2,Start(11),100) C=3DTcp Send(3,Start(12),100) D=3DGui Wait IF D=3D-9 : Rem TCP/IP message received. PKT=3DTcp Packet If PKT=3DA : Rem received the answer to A request Else If PKT=3DB : Rem received the answer to B request Else If PKT=3DC : Rem received the answer to C request Endif @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Put" @NEXT "Tcp Put$" @PREV "Tcp Packet" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Put(,,) This command works the same way as @{"Tcp Send" LINK "Tcp Send"}. The dif= ference is that Tcp Put is a @{I}synchronous@{UI} command. The program will halt until the data i= s sent. This means you don't have to monitor the number of bytes sent, etc.= yourself. The function returns the number of bytes sent. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Put$" @NEXT "Tcp Read" @PREV "Tcp Put" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Put$(,) Send a string to the TCP port e.g. X=3DTcp Put$(1,"NICK Giark") This command works the same way as @{"Tcp Send$" LINK "Tcp Send$"}. The d= ifference is that Tcp Put$ is a @{I}synchronous@{UI} command. The program will halt until the d= ata is sent. This means you don't have to monitor the number of bytes sent, e= tc. yourself. The function returns the number of bytes sent. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Read" @NEXT "Tcp Remove" @PREV "Tcp Put$" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Read(,,) Get bytes from the channel, and put them into the , a previously defined AMOS bank. e.g S=3DStart(10) : X=3DTcp Read(1,S,100) Using the bank as a buffer allows the command to run asynchronously. The command doesn't wait for data to become available, it just sends a reques= t to the channel. When there is data to be read, Gui Wait will inform you. A very simple example: S=3DStart(10) A=3DTcp Read(1,S,100) B=3DGui Wait If B=3D-9 : Rem TCP/IP message received D=3DTcp Code : Rem D=3Dnumber of bytes received B=3DTcp Buffer : Rem B=3Daddress of the buffer where the data is stored EndIf The function returns the Packet ID. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Remove" @NEXT "Tcp Reset" @PREV "Tcp Read" @TOC "Main" Tcp Remove A Disables the @{"Tcp Signal" LINK "Tcp Signal"} mode for the specified cha= nnel. You @{b}must@{ub} call this command when you've received a signal from th= e TCP channel. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Reset" @NEXT "Tcp Response" @PREV "Tcp Remove" @TOC "Main" Tcp Reset Resets the TCP internal timer. After using @{"Tcp Time" LINK "Tcp Time"} = you can read the amount of time elapsed since the last Tcp Reset. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Response" @NEXT "Tcp Save" @PREV "Tcp Reset" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Response Some servers return ASCII responses with numeric codes on the front like:= 220 Welcome to galactica.it This command lets you get the numeric value for use in your program (Grea= t for IRC!). Call this command after the @{"Tcp Line$" LINK "Tcp Line$"} comman= d. Example: A$=3DTcp Line$ : CD=3DTcp Response Using the example above, CD would be 220. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Save" @NEXT "Tcp Send" @PREV "Tcp Response" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Save(B,C,D To E) @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Send" @NEXT "Tcp Send$" @PREV "Tcp Save" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Send(,,) Send the specified number of bytes, starting from , to the channe= l. Like @{"Tcp Read" LINK "Tcp Read"}, this command is asynchronous. The com= mand doesn't wait for the end of the transfer, but quits immediately so your program can continue i= ts work. When the transfer is complete, you will receive a TCP/IP message. S= ee the @{"above" LINK "Tcp Read"} example. e.g. X=3DTcp Send(1,S,125) The function returns the Packet ID. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Send$" @NEXT "Tcp Set" @PREV "Tcp Send" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Send$(,) Send to the specified The function returns the Packet ID. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Set" @NEXT "Tcp Signal" @PREV "Tcp Send$" @TOC "Main" Tcp Set , All the asynchronous commands have a new parameter added. It is a user da= ta. This value will be returned to you when the TCP/IP packet comes back usin= g the @{"=3DTcp User" LINK "Tcp User"} command. You can change the value of the= user data using Tcp Set. Note: You can only modify this value @{b}before@{ub} calling Gui Wait. If= you try to modify a packet already returned by Gui Wait, your system will cra= sh. You can safely use this command to modify a Tcp Signal packet because it remains present until you remove it. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Signal" @NEXT "Tcp Time" @PREV "Tcp Set" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Signal(,,) Tcp Signal is a major improvement to the TCP handling system. Using this command activates the signal mode on the specified channel. Whenthere is = data ready for download, you will be informed. Gui Wait will still return a -9 to indicate a TCP message, but @{"Tcp Typ= e" LINK "Tcp Type"} will return 20 to indicate a signal. You can also use the @{"Tcp Packet" = LINK "Tcp Packet"} command and compare its value with the packet ID returned by Tcp Signal. You only= need to call Tcp Signal once. The advantage is that, unlike @{"Tcp Read" LINK "Tcp Read"}, nothing will= be downloaded or modified. You will just be informed that there is data to be dealt with a= nd you can decide for yourself how best to handle it. This command is the asynchronous version of @{"Tcp Check" LINK "Tcp Check= "}. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Time" @NEXT "Tcp Total" @PREV "Tcp Signal" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Time Returns the amount of time elapsed since the last @{"Tcp Reset" LINK "Tcp= Reset"}. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Total" @NEXT "Tcp Trash" @PREV "Tcp Time" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Total @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Trash" @NEXT "Tcp Type" @PREV "Tcp Total" @TOC "Main" Tcp Trash Clear @{B}all@{UB} messages from the TCP/IP port. Take care when using th= is command. @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp Type" @NEXT "Tcp User" @PREV "Tcp Trash" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp Type Returns the type of TCP/IP message received. 87 (Asc("R")) - Received an answer to a read request 98 (Asc("W")) - Received an answer to a send request @ENDNODE @NODE "Tcp User" @PREV "Tcp Type" @TOC "Main" =3DTcp User Returns the user data of the last TCP/IP packet received. @ENDNODE --BOUNDARY.7868.1351.2016821688.1-- From nobody Sun Jul 18 18:36:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13009 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25276 invoked by alias); 18 Jul 1999 22:37:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25251 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 22:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 22:37:03 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-052.enterprise.net [194.72.196.172]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24333 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:36:20 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:30:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: GUI ext, JD & Text files Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I recently downloaded JD and GUI extensions from AMOS Factory. I > wanted to have a look at GUI's TCP commands but there are no docs > included in the archive for them! Apparently Giark has them... if > so, could you please send them to me, mate :) Actually, does anyone have any example code of a program that comunicates with something via TCP (didn't someone have a telnet client written in AMOS?) I'd like to investigate creating a TCP networking game, but I'm not sure how these commands would relate to sending stuff over a serial link (which is what it uses now) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. 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Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello Scott, I like the search engine, a job well done. Declan. -----Original Message----- From: Scooter D. Matott sXe [mailto:sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu] Sent: 16 July 1999 18:42 To: Amos List Subject: [amos-list] Where's It's At!!! From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" they said it couldn't be done, they said it wouldn't be done, they said it shouldn't be done, But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! Every message for the past SEVEN YEARS has been extracted and made available to you via my speedy Perl search engine! That's right over SEVEN years of Amos Mailing List activity all at your finger tips, that's over 10,000 messages coverng ever topic you could ever dream of, all made available for your viewing pleasure by humble old me! Just point your browsers to: http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ once again that's http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ Well guys let me know what you think... 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Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 19 10:01:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09055 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14691 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 1999 14:01:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 14625 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 14:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.union-investment.de) (62.144.69.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 14:01:05 -0000 Received: by gateway.union-investment.de id m116Dqh-004P1SC; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:52:55 +0200 (METDST) Received: from email.union-investment.de(192.0.2.5) by gateway-1 via smap (3.2) id xma011702; Mon, 19 Jul 99 15:52:48 +0200 Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de by email.union-investment.de with esmtp with Smail id m116Dmy-001J2kC; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:49:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <37932DA2.61C19529@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:52:35 +0200 From: citrone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE To: amos-list@onelist.com CC: eaborn@powernet.co.uk References: <378f9b20.4eb1.0@powernet.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Where's It's At!!! Status: O X-Status: From: citrone hi, its a great idea and it works almost fine. almost? well, when i enter the keyword (maybe iam looking for my nick "citrone", i got some results where the keyword cant be found but my real name. You have to add the full email header to the search results. Further it would be easier if you can search through the whole archive, from 199x-today. i like it :-) citrone eaborn@powernet.co.uk wrote: > From: eaborn@powernet.co.uk > > >From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > > > >they said it couldn't be done, > >they said it wouldn't be done, > >they said it shouldn't be done, > > > >But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable > >AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! > > Wow! That's a bit neat. Now I can find all those elusive snippets of Wisdom > from fellow Amos coders. > > >Just point your browsers to: > >http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ > >once again that's > >http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ > > Excellent! > > Cheers, > Steve. > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! > http://www.onelist.com > Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get $20 off all MotherNature brand products! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 19 12:38:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04985 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25915 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 1999 16:38:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25908 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 16:38:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 16:38:07 -0000 Received: from steve1.demon.co.uk ([193.237.1.24]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 116GQu-000IVI-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:38:28 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: Amos-List Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:31:48 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Help Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi all, How do I get off this damn mailing list? Steve -- Stephen Thornber | IFA 5.15 CUP Subscriber and SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | IFA BetaTester http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Current Project(s) | None.............. I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get $20 off all MotherNature brand products! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 19 13:34:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27530 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1965 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 1999 17:33:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 1936 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 17:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 17:33:47 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 116HIm-0000O2-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:34:08 +0000 Message-ID: <005201bed20c$eda7f300$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: <378f9b20.4eb1.0@powernet.co.uk> <37932DA2.61C19529@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:34:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Where's It's At!!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > its a great idea and it works almost fine. almost? well, when i enter the > keyword (maybe iam looking for my nick "citrone", i got some results where the > keyword cant be found but my real name. You have to add the full email header > to the search results. Further it would be easier if you can search through the > whole archive, from 199x-today. While we're supplying ideas, how about a next-message-in-sequence, previous-message--- etc type thing for following threads ;-) > i like it :-) > > >they said it couldn't be done, > > >they said it wouldn't be done, > > >they said it shouldn't be done, > > > > > >But here it is!! The first ever, fully searchable > > >AMOS MAILING LIST ARCHIVE!! > > >http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 19 14:57:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30464 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21368 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 1999 18:57:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21335 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 18:57:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 18:57:18 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02475 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:57:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19492 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:57:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:57:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Where It's At!1 Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" This is just a quick update, will answer all your questions when I get more time, thanks for checking out the cite,hope you find it useful I already have... :) 1) I have added a multi-year search feature Try it from 1993 and 1999 to see why I left it out the first time it take forever and returns more hits than is useful, esp. if you're not good with keywords... 2) sped up the search a bit (eliminated need to drag up a directory of all the files, now it just hops through them on it's own, makes it a bit faster...) 3) I will answer all the other questions and such in a larger letter, need time to explain how the searhc works, then maybe you can suggest how to add wanted features... thanks again, glad you like it, Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- The Best Place to Buy Movies - Reel.com Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 03:51:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13071 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 03:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4297 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 07:51:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4286 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 07:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 07:51:38 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.163]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA64C8 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:56:50 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: "'Amos-List'" Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:51:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bed284$bec74900$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Inserting data into memory banks Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello all, I have a bit of a dilemma with a new project I have just started. Firstly, the project is just a small utility that reads digest emails created at onelist.com and converts them to Amigaguide files. So my program looks for specific keywords and adds the appropriate amigaguide command text into the email which is stored in memory. Once complete the amigaguide file is saved to disk. The problem that I am having is that when I add the amigaguide command text to the file it over-writes existing text and what I want is to insert it and move everything else along not unlike a text editor. I am thinking that I will have to copy parts of the memory bank but am checking if there is an easier way to do it. Any ideas? Thanks. Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, auctions, and more. Amazon.com! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 06:43:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29944 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16691 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 10:43:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 16644 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 10:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mel.aone.net.au) (203.12.176.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 10:43:13 -0000 Received: from magnet.com.au (rwhiteley@d14-2.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.187.14]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02729 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:42:54 +1000 (EST) From: Rod Whiteley To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:41:50 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Slightly off topic: Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: Rod Whiteley G'Day all, I've just read Oliver Wagner's white paper on the Amiga and Y2K at the amiga.com site, whilst most of our OS is Y2K-proofed since it uses the Unix style 'days since an epoch' method for describing a date, I am now just a little bit worried because I have an A1200 with an external battery backed up clock. How many other people have A1200's who put a third party battery backed up clock in, which Oliver describes as having more or less the standard PC type 2 digit year field Y2K problem? More worryingly, there seems to be no immediate solution. Oh dear. Any ideas? Cheers, Rod -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- The Best Place to Buy Movies - Reel.com Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 07:12:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06696 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 07:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17862 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 11:12:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 17827 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 11:12:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.36) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 11:12:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 32585 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 11:11:30 -0000 Received: from port1-1.harrisburg.desupernet.net (HELO MUSH) (208.157.103.16) by mail1.desupernet.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 11:11:30 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990720071151.007f7c20@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 07:11:51 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [amos-list] Happy Trails! Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" Well, im out. Im going to bask in the wonderfull UK for 3 weeks. I will be partying with the likes of Paul Burkey, as well as attending the WOA show. I leave in a bout 4 hours, so noone be pestering me with email now!! Mush -- *Mushroom Software* - The largest Amiga Licenseware company in the Eastern US carrying exclusively the F1 Software & 5D Titles from the UK. We also carry titles from software author's such as Paul Burkey. See our webpage for more info!! Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett ICQ #9701389 AOL IM - FishGuy876 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- The planet's eCenter for health & well-being. PlanetRX. Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 11:32:43 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25876 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22353 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 15:32:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22344 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 15:32:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edtnps04.telusplanet.net) (198.161.157.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 15:32:18 -0000 Received: from edtntnt5-port-213.agt.net ([161.184.204.213]:1096 "EHLO telusplanet.net") by smtp1.telusplanet.net with ESMTP id <35133-23925>; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:32:06 -0600 Message-ID: <379495EE.BABA267A@telusplanet.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:29:52 -0600 From: Dale Hymanyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <000701bed284$bec74900$a348a8c0@ki95142> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Inserting data into memory banks Status: O X-Status: From: Dale Hymanyk Hi Declan, I'm not sure how you're going about this task, but have you tried the Insstr$ command from AMCAF? I did something similar to this a few years ago(converting HPGL plotter files to an ancient form of binary compressed code so I could use an OLD HP plotter with the Amiga). For that I used the Ldos ext especially the Lreplace command. I basically loaded the entire file into a bank using Sload did the Lreplace and Insstr$ stuff and then saved the whole mess in one operation with Ssave. As I recall it workedd really well, though others will probably have a truely elegant solution. Hope this helps. Dale Declan Gorman wrote: > From: "Declan Gorman" > > Hello all, > I have a bit of a dilemma with a new project I have just started. > Firstly, the project is just a small utility that reads digest emails > created at onelist.com and converts them to Amigaguide files. So my program > looks for specific keywords and adds the appropriate amigaguide command text > into the email which is stored in memory. Once complete the amigaguide file > is saved to disk. > > The problem that I am having is that when I add the amigaguide command > text to the file it over-writes existing text and what I want is to insert > it and move everything else along not unlike a text editor. I am thinking > that I will have to copy parts of the memory bank but am checking if there > is an easier way to do it. Any ideas? > Thanks. > > Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Your anytime, anywhere sports store. Fogdog Sports. Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 18:59:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09881 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11637 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 22:55:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5115 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 19:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo28.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.72) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 19:47:27 -0000 Received: from Minion2197@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id hAPOa27414 (14398) for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:43:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Minion2197@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:43:36 EDT To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 134 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Inserting data into memory banks Status: O X-Status: From: Minion2197@aol.com In a message dated 20/07/99 08:51:46 GMT Daylight Time, declan_gorman@modusmedia.com writes: << The problem that I am having is that when I add the amigaguide command text to the file it over-writes existing text and what I want is to insert it and move everything else along not unlike a text editor. I am thinking that I will have to copy parts of the memory bank but am checking if there is an easier way to do it. Any ideas? Thanks. >> The way I would do it (probably not the best, most efficient etc, but its my way) would be to create a second bank and copy the first sequentially. Whenever I hit a a specific keyword, i`d tag on the Amigaguide command and continue, repeating as necessary. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100! http://www.onelist.com By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY PROGRAM. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 20 18:48:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07134 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29476 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 1999 22:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 18682 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 19:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web903.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.78) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 19:48:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990720194700.17753.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.142.210] by web903.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:47:00 BST Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:47:00 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Inserting data into memory banks Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi --- Declan Gorman wrote: > have just started. > Firstly, the project is just a small utility that > reads digest emails > created at onelist.com and converts them to > Amigaguide files. So my program Usually it is best to generate output as you read the input, so there isn't lots of hassle moving things around in memory. You should be able to get away with reading one line at a time and processing that, if the digest format is anything sensible. > looks for specific keywords and adds the appropriate > amigaguide command text > into the email which is stored in memory. Once Eh? Is this for adding links between mails to follow keywords, or to follow threads? Or are the "keywords" parts of the email header? > The problem that I am having is that when I add > the amigaguide command > text to the file it over-writes existing text and > what I want is to insert > it and move everything else along not unlike a text > editor. I am thinking > that I will have to copy parts of the memory bank > but am checking if there > is an easier way to do it. Any ideas? You could have a linked list containing sections of text, this would minimise copying. Have a new node in the list for each line, and then if that line needs commands it can be split into lots of nodes, so only the data on that line has to be copied. Example: This is some /example/ text for conversion. 1: "This is" 2: "some " 3: "@{i}" 4: "example" 5: "@{ui}" 6: " text" 7: "for conversion." No real commands, just using /italics/ as an example. Hope this helps. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations SAYNO2DRUGS. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 04:26:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA13152 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18409 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 08:25:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10296 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 07:03:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 07:03:56 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.163]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA3B1F for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:09:25 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:04:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bed347$4942b5c0$a348a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000701bed284$bec74900$a348a8c0@ki95142> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Inserting data into memory banks Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Thanks for the ideas, I will be trying them all to see which works best. 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See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 04:45:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA31833 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16196 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 08:45:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16188 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 08:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 08:45:20 -0000 Received: from du-10.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.10]:1070 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8324-1133>; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:45:05 +0300 Message-ID: <000301bed355$dd201220$0ac7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:47:08 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Shitshitshit! Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, Could anyone please help? I managed spill water on my computer desk. Miggy and most of my disks on it survived but Pinball Fantasies -disks are now corrupted:( I know this sounds a bit lame but is it possible for anyone to send them to me? This is irritating 'cause those disks were really original:((( I really need those disks - I use PBF to evaluate all ball movements and hits with my Pinball Construction Kit. I've already downloaded demo of it from aminet but it's nothing like the original:( At the same time I could ask if there's anyone volunteer for beta testing of PBCK or actually just player-version of it. I think I can manage to complete a beta of it within a month! Just send me (directly) your miggys specs... 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See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 04:53:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA12892 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5440 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 08:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5420 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 08:53:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mel.aone.net.au) (203.12.176.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 08:53:25 -0000 Received: from magnet.com.au (rwhiteley@d36-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.36]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28506 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:53:30 +1000 (EST) From: Rod Whiteley To: AMOS Mailing List Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:52:27 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] AMOSPro and UAE Status: O X-Status: From: Rod Whiteley G'Day all, A terrible thought just entered my tiny brain: as a means of avoiding the aforementioned Y2K problem with the battery backed up clock in my A1200's, I guess I could entertain the idea of new hardware, which made me wonder how stable, functional, useful, is UAE on a PC with respect to AMOSPro. Before I get flamed horrendously, let me explain that this would, of course, only be a stop-gap measure until our new machines come out at the end of this year (?) It's probably best to reply privately to me rather than bore the rest of the list, so if anyone's using UAE and AmosPro+extensions, let me know please. Cheers, Rod Whiteley -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100! http://www.onelist.com By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY PROGRAM. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 09:43:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05902 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1356 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 13:43:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1325 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 13:43:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.92) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 13:43:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 65340 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 1999 13:42:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990721134255.65339.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.48 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:42:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.48] From: "patrick Wesseling" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:42:54 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Re: [amos-list] New game? Or Fantasy... Status: O X-Status: From: "patrick Wesseling" I allways loved playing FirePower! Some ideas! - Really I splitscreen on 1 comp. for two player game. - Maybe some ground troops that can "break you up". - Maybe some villages a long the way. - Landmines!!!!!! - Offcourse enemy from the air (helicopters, airplanes, zeppelins?) I will come up with more. Some notes: I think we can call Pittfal (The Project) dead. Really I shame. I do have very little time (Work, study), so cannot start I project of myself, because it never will be finished. Patrick Wesseling >From: Leto Kauler >Reply-To: amos-list@onelist.com >To: AMOS List >Subject: [amos-list] New game? Or Fantasy... >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:02:43 +0500 > >From: Leto Kauler > > >I've come up with what I think would be a ripper game. What I need >is comments, suggestions... etc, etc. > >Do you all remember "Firepower"? That tank game where you go >capture the opponent's flag and make it back to base to win... >Well, I'm thinking a doing a 'remake'. There is actually a nice >game called Firepower on Aminet which was made in AMOS, but this >lacks a lot of things. > >Firstly, I've been planning for your tank to be controlled with >the keyboard (that the body, direction bit), but then you can use >the mouse to control the aiming of the turret! It might sound >strange, but I lurrrrrve the idea. > >The graphics are "3D" rendered, 32 colour, sorta top and front >view. > >I was thinking of having "hills" over which to drive, with slopes >changing the angle of driving, aiming, etc. How to do this >escapes me at the moment... but it sounds nifty. > >The big clincher though would be Net play, which is why I was >asking those questions earlier. I want to have Net play, and the >ability to have "mugshots" of yourself which gets sent to whoever >you play with..... and you get theirs. > >Then maybe split two-player on same comp. With different types of >games.... deathmatch, capture flag, co-op, etc. > >So... yeah... I lotta work, which I don't know if I could pull >off, but send along your ideas, etc. > > -- Leto > > http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... >http://www.onelist.com >...and you can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. See homepage for details. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist's new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 10:48:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA30060 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21313 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 14:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21176 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 14:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 14:47:47 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a02-0037.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.101]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24659 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:47:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:45:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: AMOSPro and UAE Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli Hello Rod On 21-Jul-99, Rod Whiteley wrote: >A terrible thought just entered my tiny brain: as a means of avoiding the aforementioned Y2K problem with the battery backed up clock in my A1200's >(...) >let me explain that this would, of course, only be > a stop-gap measure until our new machines come out at the end of this year (?) hmm... the Y2K problem won't make your amiga fail or anything... It'll just reset the clock when you reboot... and i'm pretty sure someone is working on fixing that:) In any case it won't affect amos pro at all unless you're writing something that has to have the exact time and date:) (and anyone with an inet connection can install one of the many clock synchronizers and have their time corrected when they go online:) Regards, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist’s new program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 11:34:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01199 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12656 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 15:34:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 12537 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 15:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 15:33:59 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05102 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:34:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13802 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:34:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" This May sound nuts, but I have a VERY simple y2k solution for all of you... Just rip your friggin battery out! I did it to my A3000, now every time I start it up the machine thinks it's 1978! None of my files are ever date-stamped right, BIG DEAL! Honestly i can't see how a home user could care... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 12:16:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18638 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8404 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 16:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8349 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 16:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 16:15:52 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26535 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07291 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] The Mailing List Archives... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Ok here is my promised explanation... My search engine does this... It has 4 loops! 1) Loop by year 2) Loop by month 3) Loop by File load message file 4) Loop by Pattern Search for patterns in message text This loop is short as it aborts as soon as it fails to find a pattern entered with the AND operator And OR searches can be done all at once, so scott AND matott takes at most two loops scott OR matott takes only one pass.. 4) next pattern 3) Next File 2) Next Month 1) Next Year It loads the ENTIRE file as one big string and searches it... This is the fastest way otherwise we'd need a 5th loop between 3 and 4 to loop by line in file searchign for the pattern and things would get VERY slow!! If it matches all patterns, then it stores the file name in an array which is later printed to the HTML page This makes certain things impossible... 1) Show Message Subject as part of the Links List print out This can't be done, I'd need a way to get to the SUBJECT: line of file, but since I load the entire file up there is no way to goto just anyone line.. I guess I could use a split command to try and work it out... 2) Similarly a NEXT MESG IN THREAD feature is not possible. To be honest I was a bit peeved at this suggestion... I understand how nice it would be to have, but all the same I felt like "If you want the bloody thing you code it yourself!" I mean can you imagine the headache it would be to try and sort out threads from the mass of messages I have?? It'd be one thing on NEWS-GROUP ARCHIVE, but the mailing list is just a stack of messages divided by date... AND dont' anybody wirte in saying how easy this would be unless they have perl code to hand me with their cheap words!! I'm sorry, esp to Keith, it wasn't an ureasonable suggestion it's just one of those things that sounds maybe easier than it is to do, also it's the kind of thing user's like to take for granted when it's there... Anyway, thanks for all the postive words I will be listing the cite with Amiga Web Directory today so it is more or less done in my eyes, well enjoy! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 12:18:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15402 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13019 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 16:18:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12979 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 16:18:19 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27853 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:18:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08579 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:18:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:18:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amos PD Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Has anybody got the AMOS PD CD out there?? why hasn't that archive ever been made available ofr public download on some ftp?? The music files and sprites would be useful, also the samples, obviously I could get them by plunking out for a copy of the CD, but if the stuf is really in the Public Domain why don't we put up for downloading?? I could provide space and a cite to host it... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 08:03:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06641 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7965 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 12:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 7946 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 12:03:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 12:03:31 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA26324 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:03:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-36.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.100]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA07107 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:03:27 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:02:43 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] New game? Or Fantasy... Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I've come up with what I think would be a ripper game. What I need is comments, suggestions... etc, etc. Do you all remember "Firepower"? That tank game where you go capture the opponent's flag and make it back to base to win... Well, I'm thinking a doing a 'remake'. There is actually a nice game called Firepower on Aminet which was made in AMOS, but this lacks a lot of things. Firstly, I've been planning for your tank to be controlled with the keyboard (that the body, direction bit), but then you can use the mouse to control the aiming of the turret! It might sound strange, but I lurrrrrve the idea. The graphics are "3D" rendered, 32 colour, sorta top and front view. I was thinking of having "hills" over which to drive, with slopes changing the angle of driving, aiming, etc. How to do this escapes me at the moment... but it sounds nifty. The big clincher though would be Net play, which is why I was asking those questions earlier. I want to have Net play, and the ability to have "mugshots" of yourself which gets sent to whoever you play with..... and you get theirs. Then maybe split two-player on same comp. With different types of games.... deathmatch, capture flag, co-op, etc. So... yeah... I lotta work, which I don't know if I could pull off, but send along your ideas, etc. -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... http://www.onelist.com ...and you can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 13:13:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14103 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1834 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 17:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 1818 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 17:13:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:13:48 -0000 Received: from du-68.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.68]:1028 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <7852-1131>; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:13:18 +0300 Message-ID: <000501bed39c$dcd10f80$44c7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:15:20 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Aga-Amos! Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi all, Have you seen Personnal-extension on Aminet. Go and check it! It supports aga screens, fast icon commands, and multiple color rainbows! I liked it although it's little slow and it's only a demo. It makes also Amiga to crash when exiting but hey, so does Turbo (at least on my miggy). I think this extension has a potential:) [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 13:30:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02613 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12188 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 17:30:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12169 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 17:30:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:30:53 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-059.enterprise.net [194.72.197.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06493 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:30:20 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:27:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: AMOSPro and UAE Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > A terrible thought just entered my tiny brain: as a means of avoiding the > aforementioned Y2K problem with the battery backed up clock in my A1200's, > guess I could entertain the idea of new hardware, which made me wonder how > stable, functional, useful, is UAE on a PC with respect to AMOSPro. Before Well, I haven't used the AMOSPro editor on WinUAE, but I have run some of my games on it. There is a problem with text if you set the CPU to highest emulated priority, but apart from that it all seems to work. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Napoleon Bonaparte was afraid of cats. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 13:35:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05173 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18846 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 17:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18750 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 17:34:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:34:18 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-059.enterprise.net [194.72.197.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07351 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:33:47 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:31:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > This May sound nuts, but I have a VERY simple y2k solution for all of you... > Just rip your friggin battery out! Why is everyone worried about the Y2K with amigas? They are already FULLY year 2000 compliant (try setting the clock to 2000...), so quit worring. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Child actress Drew Barrymore hosted SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE on November 20th, 1982 when she was seven years old. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! http://www.onelist.com If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 13:40:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05684 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13313 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 17:40:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13300 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 17:40:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:40:26 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-059.enterprise.net [194.72.197.59]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08715 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:39:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:37:28 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: New game? Or Fantasy... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Do you all remember "Firepower"? That tank game where you go > capture the opponent's flag and make it back to base to win... > Well, I'm thinking a doing a 'remake'. There is actually a nice > game called Firepower on Aminet which was made in AMOS, but this > lacks a lot of things. Never played it, but I have played games like it. > Firstly, I've been planning for your tank to be controlled with > the keyboard (that the body, direction bit), but then you can use > the mouse to control the aiming of the turret! It might sound > strange, but I lurrrrrve the idea. Like Snes SmashTV eh? You should have an option to use a CD32 pad: + pad to move the tank and the buttons to fire in the resective direction, as this'd make it easy to 2player. (or use two joysticks, and have support for the 4pl adapter) And if you had two keyboard players, then you could have 4 human players which would be even better ;) > I was thinking of having "hills" over which to drive, with slopes > changing the angle of driving, aiming, etc. How to do this > escapes me at the moment... but it sounds nifty. Well, you'd have to store the Z level of the tanks too, and move the shots in Z as well. Although, this may not help gameplay, by making it hard to judge shots etc. > The big clincher though would be Net play, which is why I was > asking those questions earlier. I want to have Net play, and the > ability to have "mugshots" of yourself which gets sent to whoever > you play with..... and you get theirs. If I ever work it out, I'l detail it to everyone. (First you should get it working via a serial link though...) > Then maybe split two-player on same comp. With different types of > games.... deathmatch, capture flag, co-op, etc. use screencopy to have 4 players, even better ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The most common first name in the world is Mohammed. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 15:41:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00557 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11778 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 19:41:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 11681 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 19:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 19:41:08 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a02-0010.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.74]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18101 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:41:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:38:58 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli Hello Scooter On 21-Jul-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote: > This May sound nuts, but I have a VERY simple y2k solution for all of you... > Just rip your friggin battery out! Why on earth would anyone want to rip the battery out?:) The effect would be the same as leaving it in:) (and wouldn't require soldering skills to prevent your accel from blowing up:) Regards, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 16:01:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10569 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24079 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 20:01:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24035 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:01:01 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13054 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:01:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10150 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:01:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:01:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Arash Tavakoli wrote: > From: Arash Tavakoli > > Hello Scooter > > On 21-Jul-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote: > > > This May sound nuts, but I have a VERY simple y2k solution for all of you... > > Just rip your friggin battery out! > > > Why on earth would anyone want to rip the battery out?:) > The effect would be the same as leaving it in:) > (and wouldn't require soldering skills to prevent your accel from blowing up:) The advantage is that it doesn't leak deadly battery acids all over the insides of your miggy, trust me, it can happen... the flicker fixer on my A3000 is no more for just this reason... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to RON MARTINO This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To join ONElist's Friends & Family program, go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 16:12:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA13991 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26479 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 20:12:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 26424 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web904.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:12:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990721201126.29662.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.133.156] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:11:26 BST Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:11:26 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] The Mailing List Archives... Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" wrote: > My search engine does this... > 2) Similarly a NEXT MESG IN THREAD feature is not > possible. > To be honest I was a bit peeved at this > suggestion... > I understand how nice it would be to have, but all > the same > I felt like "If you want the bloody thing you code > it yourself!" > I mean can you imagine the headache it would be to > try and > sort out threads from the mass of messages I > have?? > It'd be one thing on NEWS-GROUP ARCHIVE, but the > mailing > list is just a stack of messages divided by > date... > AND dont' anybody wirte in saying how easy this > would be unless > they have perl code to hand me with their cheap > words!! I don't have any perl code, but I think it is possible, by extracting all of the messages with the same subject (excluding Re: and [amos-list]) you get an entire thread, then sort this by date. After that you can move forwards and backwards through a thread. Dealing with Was: might be trickier. > it's just one of those things that sounds maybe > easier than it > is to do, also it's the kind of thing user's like > to take > for granted when it's there... Sorry if my ideas don't help. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 16:24:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21420 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26907 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 20:23:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26836 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:23:43 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24009 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:24:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22619 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:24:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] FIRE-POWER!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" just flipping through the messages here, and oddly enough... I do own FirePower, I found it in the back of some used software shop with a tag that read $20, it was the only piece of Amiga software I'd seen on a retail shelf in 3 years (this was back in 97) I told the clerk I'd give him $5 for it, he looked at said "Do know what an Amiga is?" I said "I own one!" "$5 it is." :) The game actually sucks, terrible control, but the idea is sound, so sound there is a playstation send-up out there which is quite a bit of fun... some notes: 1) I too love the mouse-aim, keyboard-drive idea, but that makes net-play a must, as two players is the only way to go, one player is such a bore... 2) The PSX send up feature several kinds of vehicles you could use this offered some variety and made for fun situations like a jeep trying to out-run a heuy-copter after stealing the flag... 3) One thing about the games I never liked was that the bases were pre-generated, you could get just as lost in your own base as in the other guys! Adding a base-build/design phase may seem tricky, but it coudl add lots of replay to the game... just a story and some ideas... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 16:28:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04970 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25185 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 1999 20:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25162 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:28:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web901.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:28:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990721202552.16378.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.133.156] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:25:52 BST Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:25:52 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] FIRE-POWER!! Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" wrote: > 1) I too love the mouse-aim, keyboard-drive idea, > but > that makes net-play a must, as two players > is the only way to go, one player is such a bore... I have some AMOS code to read a second mouse, so you can plug two mice in and 2play. On its way soon... > 3) One thing about the games I never liked was that > the bases were > pre-generated, you could get just as lost in your > own > base as in the other guys! > Adding a base-build/design phase may seem tricky, > but > it coudl add lots of replay to the game... Getting into Command&Conquer territory, which is probably a bigger project than you need... Maybe design bases in a paint package (different colours = different buildings?) Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 09:19:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24356 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 616 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 13:19:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 595 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 13:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 13:19:15 -0000 Received: from steve1.demon.co.uk ([193.237.1.24]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 117Ikw-0004ma-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:19:27 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: Amos-List Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:38:03 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Arrgghhh! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi all, Someone please tell me how to get off this damn list I'm sick of getting shite emails bah! ;) Steve -- Stephen Thornber | IFA 5.15 CUP Subscriber and SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | IFA BetaTester http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Current Project(s) | None.............. When marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will have inlaws. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 21 23:01:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27270 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30992 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 03:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30967 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 03:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 03:02:04 -0000 Received: from goliath (p065.rp7.space.net.au [202.168.100.66]) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05095 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:01:15 +0800 Message-ID: <3796892E.20A2@space.net.au> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:59:58 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <000301bed355$dd201220$0ac7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Shitshitshit! Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." Hi, Yes I would like to beta-test your game. I have the following... Amiga 68020, 1.7gig HDD, 2Meg Chip, 4Meg Fast AGA/ECS. Andy H. >Sasu Lintula wrote: > > From: "Sasu Lintula" > > Hi, > Could anyone please help? I managed spill water on my computer desk. Miggy > and most of my disks on it survived but Pinball Fantasies -disks are now > corrupted:( I know this sounds a bit lame but is it possible for anyone to > send them to me? This is irritating 'cause those disks were really > original:((( I really need those disks - I use PBF to evaluate all ball > movements and hits with my Pinball Construction Kit. I've already downloaded > demo of it from aminet but it's nothing like the original:( > > At the same time I could ask if there's anyone volunteer for beta testing of > PBCK or actually just player-version of it. I think I can manage to complete > a beta of it within a month! Just send me (directly) your miggys specs... > The beta-version is meant especially for Blade Runner -fans;) > > [Sasu Lintula] > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! > http://www.onelist.com > If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. See homepage. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 13:00:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12230 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9039 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 17:00:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8923 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 17:00:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 17:00:03 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27766 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:00:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26674 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:00:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:00:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <19990721201126.29662.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] The Mailing List Archives... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > I don't have any perl code, but I think it is > possible, > by extracting all of the messages with the same > subject > (excluding Re: and [amos-list]) you get an entire > thread, yes but it's not like the messages are in some handy database for me, it's not like Subject: means anything, it's just some line of text in the mail message, it's only your mail program that makes Subject: look like it's anything fancy A mail message looks like this: >From sdsfdsfds@thsgd.dsfds,rt. to ... blah blah blah describing where the message traveld to get to you From: fsdf To: Date: Subject: (message text) There is no standard to how far down (ie what line) Subject: appears on because the top header describing the path the message took can be as long as it needs to be, depending on ho many hops a messages takes to get home... Also there isn't even a (real) standard for the normal header that we're used to, it doesn't ahve to be there by anymeans, on a unix box type sendmail johnny@wherever then type anythign you want followed by a line wht justr a period like . and wahlah, johnny will get a message with NO subject header, No Nothing! Email is just text, nothing more, nothing special, if I wanted to sort these messages by subject or by date I'd have to build the data base myself! > Sorry if my ideas don't help. > It's ok, I kind of went off the handle the other day, guess I was jsut sort of exhausted with the project, I knew that people would want things by subject when I was doing it, there just didn't seem to be any real easy way to do it. My idea was more or less just to get the archives up and searchable, and even w/o subject sorting the are still quite useful, the search takes a bit, I could have used a scheme like Glimpse to make it faster, but unless the cite starts getting some ungodly number of hits that shouldn't be necessary. Anyway, I really like the atmosphere on this list, especially the freedom people have to make suggestions for and even critize one another's work and I just hope I haven't spoiled that any by my errant reaction to what were really very, very reasonable suggestions. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. http://www.onelist.com Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 13:05:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27212 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14744 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 17:05:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14718 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 17:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 17:05:10 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00012 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29601 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:04:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:04:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] amospro_3d.lib Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" So I was diggin through the archives this mornign cause I knew the question'd been flown around the list about a million times and I discovered to get Amos3d working under AmosPro one needs amospro_3d.lib off productiivty disk #2 no less, :) Well I of course have this disk, but it's tucked away safely in a closet back home in New York and I am here at school in chicago, so... unless the library is copied to one's hard disc as part of the strd install (in which case I got it) I was wondering if anyone had a copy they could zap me real quick. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 13:14:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09230 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25511 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 17:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25473 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 17:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 17:14:01 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04962 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:14:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05926 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:13:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Bank Archive Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Hey I would like to start add an Archive of banks to the Help Pages, I was thinking wouldn't it be need if there was a just amos archive of good snd/fx and useful bobs/icons. I know over the years I have amassed a pile of snd/fx and some good icons what about putting together a cite with .abk files arched with a small readme? Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. 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See homepage for details! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 15:52:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30785 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31146 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 19:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 31093 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 19:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crux.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.59) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 19:52:13 -0000 Received: from rm2-532.tiscalinet.it (root@rm2-532.tiscalinet.it [212.123.84.24]) by crux.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20398 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:52:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: KillGates Inc Date: 22 Jul 99 21:28:17 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] amospro_3d.lib Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Once upon a time there was a sage, Scooter D. Matott sXe, who enlightened the world about [amos-list] amospro_3d.lib > So I was diggin through the archives this mornign cause I knew > the question'd been flown around the list about a million times > and I discovered to get Amos3d working under AmosPro one needs > amospro_3d.lib off productiivty disk #2 no less, :) [...] > unless the library is copied to one's hard disc as part of the strd install > (in which case I got it) > I was wondering if anyone had a copy they could zap me real quick. I have got it in the productivity2/extensions/ drawer, and as I never did anything with it, I suppose it was put there by the standard install. Regards, Paolo -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys." 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See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 15:01:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01246 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30110 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 19:01:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 30099 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 19:01:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO carbon.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.92) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 19:01:22 -0000 Received: from host5-171-234-77.btinternet.com ([195.171.234.77] helo=btinternet.com) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 117O68-0006xe-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:01:40 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:58:12 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: amospro_3d.lib Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello Scooter On 22-Jul-99, you wrote: >I discovered to get Amos3d working under AmosPro one needs > amospro_3d.lib off productiivty disk #2 no less, :) Do you mean the AMOSpro productivity disk #2? Its not on mine, sorry. --------------- NEIL IVES [HomeMade Software] MALVERN UK --------------- PC's pah! I fart in their general direction. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist's new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 15:28:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05746 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32651 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 19:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 32621 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 19:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 19:29:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-031.enterprise.net [194.72.197.31]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA18151 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:28:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:26:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1197004824.2" Subject: [amos-list] Re: amospro_3d.lib Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.1197004824.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > So I was diggin through the archives this mornign cause I knew > the question'd been flown around the list about a million times > and I discovered to get Amos3d working under AmosPro one needs > amospro_3d.lib off productiivty disk #2 no less, :) > Well I of course have this disk, but it's tucked away > safely in a closet back home in New York and I am here at = > school in chicago, so... Ok everyone, it was so small that I thought, what the heck? and I've s= ent it to the list for everyone. 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The worry for me as I said is that the battery backed up clocks (3rd party ones that is) for the A1200 DO use the dreaded DDMMYY notion. There are some other Y2K type issues depending on your machine and OS, but they are rather more complex. It's probably worthwhile looking at the Y2K paper that Oliver Wagner wrote, you can find it at www.amiga.com Oh, and btw, I do need to have accurate date and time every day, I use my amiga here at work for all our accounting/billing procedures (a proggy I wrote in AmosPro), and it would be a pain in the arse to have to re-enter date and time every time I start up. Unfortunately, it's sounding like that's what I'll have to do Cheers, Rod -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist’s new program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 04:15:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA11859 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22792 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 08:15:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22784 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 08:15:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 08:15:40 -0000 Received: from bexley.u-net.com ([194.119.166.76]) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 117aVB-0001Ut-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:16:21 +0100 Date: 22 Jul 99 23:21:06 +0000 From: "David Smith" To: "Rod Whiteley" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1608.872T345T14012484dsmith@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Clarification, Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: "David Smith" Hello Rod, you said: >sorry to bring this up again, but a couple of responses seemed to suggest >that the Amiga has no Y2K type problem, whilst this is almost correct (since >it uses the Unix style days since a given epoch date method, rather than the >standard DDMMYY) the devil is in the detail. The worry for me as I said is >that the battery backed up clocks (3rd party ones that is) for the A1200 DO >use the dreaded DDMMYY notion. There are some other Y2K type issues depending >on your machine and OS, but they are rather more complex. It's probably >worthwhile looking at the Y2K paper that Oliver Wagner wrote, you can find it >at www.amiga.com Oh, and btw, I do need to have accurate date and time every >day, I use my amiga here at work for all our accounting/billing procedures (a >proggy I wrote in AmosPro), and it would be a pain in the arse to have to >re-enter date and time every time I start up. Unfortunately, it's sounding >like that's what I'll have to do Cheers, Rod Anyone worried about this needs only to set their clock with the Preferences programme to 11:58pm 31 December 1999 then switch off and cold start their machine a few minutes later. I did this and the Preferences programme correctly displayed the year as 2000, and February as having 29 days. Not all clocks are the same, of course, but checking this now will allow you time to buy another if necessary. You ought to disable programmes in the WBStartup drawer which use the date (like Remind) before doing this. Temporarily move them somewhere else. David -- We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details on ONElist's new "FRIENDS & FAMILY" program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 19:27:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02983 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21021 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 1999 23:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 20469 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 23:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 23:27:23 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-051.enterprise.net [194.72.197.51]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA00112 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:26:32 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:23:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Clarification, Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Oh, and btw, I do need to have accurate date and time every day, I use my > amiga here at work for all our accounting/billing procedures (a proggy I > wrote in AmosPro), and it would be a pain in the arse to have to re-enter > date and time every time I start up. Unfortunately, it's sounding like that's > what I'll have to do Ah, using home written programs? Excelent, here's what you do: Simply put your clock back a few years, and then modify your program to automatically adjust to it. Or, if you use your amiga online a lot, get a clock syncroniser, I think there is one on aminet that grabs the correct time/date everytime you go online, therefore bypassing your batterybacked up clock. Anyway, you've still got plenty of time left (famous last words) so who knows? You may buy (or be given? ;) a better accelerator with a battery backed up clock on it ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Why make good software, when people will buy bad. -- Bill Gates --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. http://www.onelist.com Weekly drawing is held each Friday. See homepage for details! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 22 22:36:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA32759 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18597 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 02:35:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18590 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 02:35:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 02:35:47 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 117VBb-000Jab-0B for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:35:47 +0000 Message-ID: <019401bed4b4$13d54ba0$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:35:46 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Clarification, Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > sorry to bring this up again, but a couple of responses seemed to suggest that > the Amiga has no Y2K type problem, whilst this is almost correct (since it > uses the Unix style days since a given epoch date method, rather than the > standard DDMMYY) the devil is in the detail. The worry for me as I said is > that the battery backed up clocks (3rd party ones that is) for the A1200 DO > use the dreaded DDMMYY notion. There are some other Y2K type issues dependin Oh dear. Yawn. Do I have to solve the Y2K alleged "problem" with amigas ?? You are all programmers. You know how to get the date from a shell. You know how to add. You know how to set the date from a shell. How hard can it be guys ?? In the unlikely event your clock can't deal with it, it should take you 5 mins to solve. Stop messing about, you aren't brainless peecee owners. (If you were brainless, you wouldn't be on the list) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details, including our weekly drawing! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 15:41:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16736 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28828 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 19:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 25562 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 19:08:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web902.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 19:08:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990723190619.15007.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.136.141] by web902.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:06:19 BST Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:06:19 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] The Mailing List Archives... Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > > I don't have any perl code, but I think it is > > possible, > > by extracting all of the messages with the same > > subject > > (excluding Re: and [amos-list]) you get an entire > > thread, > > yes but it's not like the messages are in some > handy > database for me, it's not like Subject: means > [snip] > Email is just text, nothing more, nothing special, > if I wanted to sort these messages by subject or by > date I'd have to build the data base myself! I thought that was what you were doing... Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. http://www.onelist.com Weekly drawing is held each Friday. See homepage for details! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 16:07:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28349 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2879 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 20:07:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2872 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 20:07:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 20:07:14 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-021.enterprise.net [194.72.197.81]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22869 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:07:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:07:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1608.872T345T14012484dsmith@bexley.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Compiler 'send amos to back on booting' problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I have found that if I select 'send amos to back on booting' in the compiler menu, then my compiled program becomes rather unstable, especially around error handeling routines. (even if I call 'AMOS TO FRONT' during the program) Does anyone know why it does this, or how I can fix it please? I'd like amos not to put its custom screen straight up when it starts... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - A rainbow can occur only when the sun is 40 degrees or less above the horizon. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 19:11:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24250 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29110 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 23:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 29093 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 23:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 23:12:23 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.66] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A905762A0114; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:13:25 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:02:24 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Utilities Toplist in AIO! Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward News Release 24/7/99 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amiga Information Online has set up a Utilities PD Toplist. So if you have three favourite Utilities that you would like to give credit to then why not show your support for those programs and send us your votes. It is very simple, all you have to do is give 3 points to your favourite Util, 2 points to your second favourite and then 1 point to your third favourite utility of all time. The only restriction is you can only vote of PD/Shareware type software and not Commercial. By commercial I mean you don't register. It still holds it open to vote for Utilities like Miami, AmIRC and the like. If you are interested please return the form to the address below, -Cut- 1st Util (3 Points) : [Enter util name here] 2nd Util (2 Points) : [Enter util name here] 3rd Util (1 Point) : [Enter util name here] -Cut- Email : SnorsleX@Home.se Topic : AIO Toplist You can see the latest ratings in the latest issue of AIO or on our website, Aminet:Docs/Mags/AIOV26.lha or http://www.aio.co.uk Chris Seward Editor of Amiga Information Online --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! http://www.onelist.com Check out homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 19:11:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA31650 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29769 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 1999 23:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29397 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 23:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 23:12:30 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.66] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A90A762A0114; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:13:30 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:02:34 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] AIO Hot-topic for issue 27! Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Dear Reader, Please send us your comments and ideas for the hot-topic for issue 27. The hot-topic for issue 27 is 'The news that Amiga have decided to choose Linux for the NG Amiga instead of QNX came as a great shock to everyone. For next issue send us your comments and ideas on this matter, do you think it was the correct move? or do you think its too late to change? will this effect your support and backing to Amiga? So if you have anything to say on this subject contact us at the address below.' While the aio.co.uk domain is down please direct all letters regarding this topic to, *amiga@fdn.co.uk* Please do not reply to this email on this mailing-list. 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See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 23 20:09:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA17562 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24930 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 00:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24903 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 00:09:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 00:09:23 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-055.enterprise.net [194.72.196.55]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA26707 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:09:22 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:06:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Compiler 'send amos to back on booting' problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I have found that if I select 'send amos to back on booting' in the compiler menu, then my compiled program becomes rather unstable, especially around error handeling routines. (even if I call 'AMOS TO FRONT' during the program) ok, ok, I've worked it out: I had it on create CLI program, as this doesn't overwrite my nice Icon. When I set it to wb program, all the problems are gone! ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he put his finger in the mains socket. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! http://www.onelist.com If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 03:26:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08918 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22727 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 07:26:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 22716 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 07:26:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 07:26:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20354 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 07:15:00 -0000 Received: from u61.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.61) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 07:15:00 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990724082044.009692f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: coolc@pop3.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:26:32 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Hi, how's it going, just subbed, so I thought I'd introduce myself to all you lovely people. Joined up for this list in a fit of nostalgia, been playing C64 games all week, and got to thinking of the amount of fun I had with Amos. Decided to have a quick hunt on Onelist, and was delighted to find this list. Anyway, anyone here remember the Mr Amos Club, run by Brian Bell (helped by me, Neil Kennedy), or does anyone remember Totally Amos, run by Anne and Len Tucker? Both of these were great disk-mags, are they available on the net anyplace by the way? I had fun contributing to those disk-mags, and the reason that I've been getting nostalgic about this sort of stuff, is because I've remembered how much *fun* I had back then. Computing was a real laugh back then. Anyway, I can already feel myself getting tempted to plug the Amiga 500+ in again, and fire up that dusty old copy of Amos Pro. I'll just have a few more games of Sentinel and Ghost-busters first though, lol! Cheerio Neil -- ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" Top Tips,,, Pretend you're on the Jerry Springer show by sitting in your dentist's waiting room, and punching the first person who enters the room. ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist’s new program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 08:15:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17778 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27162 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 12:15:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26970 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 12:15:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 12:15:10 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-057.enterprise.net [194.72.195.177]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23378 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:14:34 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:11:44 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990724082044.009692f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] AmosNG, um, hello? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, um, what ever happened to AmosNG?? Come on guys, we're going to need a portable version of AMOS for when the AmigaNG comes out, or were all out of a job ;) So, is AmosNG still in developement? If not, WHY NOT. PS. On the subject of over due stuff, where's the GUI ext. version 2? Did I miss it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - If you belive, they put a man on the moon, /man on the moon/. If you belive, there's nothing out there to see, and nothing is good. -- REM --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 10:42:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07811 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20250 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 14:42:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20244 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 14:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 14:42:12 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-11-38.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.38]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26075 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:28:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: 'send amos to back on booting' problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 23-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I have found that if I select 'send amos to back on booting' in the >compiler menu, then my compiled program becomes rather unstable, Use the /open default screen/ option instead. Then, either leave it black or put up a "loading" screen. If you do this, remember not to use screen 0 without opening in first. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to RON MARTINO This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To join ONElist's Friends & Family program, go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 10:42:43 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20494 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3834 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 14:42:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3829 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 14:42:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 14:42:21 -0000 Received: from golden.net (Giark@AS52-11-38.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.38]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26087 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:39:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: AmosNG, um, hello? Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 24-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Ok, um, what ever happened to AmosNG?? Spectre kidnapped the programmers and are holding them hostage for the sum of £100,000,000. (Sorry, they've been showing Bond films all month.) >So, is AmosNG still in developement? If not, WHY NOT. Rune? Any word from the crew that you've not posted on the AMOS site? >PS. On the subject of over due stuff, where's the GUI ext. version 2? Did I >miss it? Pietro is AWOL. I have a beta and am writing the docs for it. The last I heard, he was doing a major revamp of the tcp section of the code. That was a few months ago. Either his dairy business is taking up all of his time, he has lost his net connection again, or his amiga has died. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@golden.net 12235820@pager.mirabilis.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations SAYNO2DRUGS. Our latest ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 17:12:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23805 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32647 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 21:12:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 32635 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 21:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 21:12:05 -0000 Received: from usr02.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.82]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00398 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:08:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-16.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.208]) by usr02.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA13876 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:08:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:26:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: AmosNG, um, hello? Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 24-Jul-99, Rev. Giark To You wrote: >> So, is AmosNG still in developement? If not, WHY NOT. > > Rune? Any word from the crew that you've not posted on the AMOS site? Well, there's nothing that hasn't been on the maillist. However the last major message form Pietro to the list was removed from the site due to some copyright trouble or something. So, sorry, no news you aren't aware of already. -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - we've got company! - police!? - how many? - uh, all of them i guess... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 11:43:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10083 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14784 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 15:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14775 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 15:43:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 15:43:00 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-014.enterprise.net [194.72.196.134]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13968 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:43:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:39:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: 'send amos to back on booting' problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> I have found that if I select 'send amos to back on booting' in the >> compiler menu, then my compiled program becomes rather unstable, > > Use the /open default screen/ option instead. Then, either leave it black or > put up a "loading" screen. If you do this, remember not to use screen 0 > without opening in first. no no no no no no, thats not why I want it: I want it not to put the AMOS screen up, because I'm making it gfx card compatible, and before I had to call 'amos to back' straight away, but still flashed the pal display up on loading, and apparently mucks CGX up. Anyway I've worked it out, so I've got no problem now ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The first novel to be written on a typewriter was 'Tom Sawyer', by Mark Twain. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to RON MARTINO This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To join ONElist's Friends & Family program, go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 18:04:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03746 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32005 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 22:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 31999 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 22:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 22:05:17 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.144] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AACD662900D2; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:06:21 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:44:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990724082044.009692f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Neil, On 24-Jul-99, you wrote: > Anyway, anyone here remember the Mr Amos Club, run by Brian Bell (helped by > me, Neil Kennedy), or does anyone remember Totally Amos, run by Anne and > Len Tucker? Both of these were great disk-mags, are they available on the > net anyplace by the way? I remember both as my brother used to get them :) And the Witby Amos Club disk magazines as well. Brian Bell got millions of orders for his Charlie Chimp Amiga Format winning game remember :)? He made loads of money and then moved into a special building and a few days later all his computer equiptment was stolen and he had to spend most of the money buying new computers :( Toodle Pip -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 24 18:46:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07825 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32631 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 1999 22:47:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 32623 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 22:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 22:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18135 invoked from network); 24 Jul 1999 22:34:41 -0000 Received: from u108.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.108) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 22:34:41 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990724232357.00911e80@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:45:39 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990724082044.009692f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Neil The Milky bars are on Chris Seward,,, >I remember both as my brother used to get them :) And the Witby Amos Club >disk magazines as well. > >Brian Bell got millions of orders for his Charlie Chimp Amiga Format >winning game remember :)? Yeah, actually that's how I met Brian, through ordering a copy of his game, which was brilliant. Then I started writing loads of stuff for the MAC disks, and ended up being elevated to "sub-editor" or something, lol. Brian was/is a great guy, and we used to spend hours on the phone discussing programing and stuff (I live in Belfast too). We were planning to start work on a few projects together, and I was writing, among other things, an Alien Breed clone in Amos. I also wrote an agony column, with some made-up "funny" letters, and some real ones that I received from places as far away as Australia. It was great fun working on that diskmag, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was very different to disk-mags like Totally Amos, with it's rave music, and funky graphics. Brian was a very talented programmer, and the disk-mag engine was fantastic back then. Still got the source code for it here somewhere, I should give it to you guys, because I don't think it was ever actually released. >He made loads of money and then moved into a special building and a few >days later all his computer equiptment was stolen and he had to spend >most of the money buying new computers :( Yeah, he used to work in a wee caravan/trailer-type thing in his back garden before that. Big things were going to happen for him, Ashley (his graphics man) and me, but then he got all his stuff nicked, and I dropped out of the computer scene altogether for about 3 years, to drink beer and smoke dope. Got back into computers last year, but sadly I'm not on an Amiga. Yet 8) I'm glad someone else remembers the good old days though, I know that Brian put a lot of work into all his projects, and we both had a great laugh working on the diskmag. Oh God, I'm busting to fire up Amos Pro now, but my mates got my old power-brick. It's a shame there was never an equivalent version of Amos for the PC. When I first got on the net last year, I hunted around for Amos stuff, and could only find something called "Multimedia Fusion" which Francois had been working on. Seemed crappy though, not a real programming language from what I could gather, and it never seemed to actually get released. Cheerio Neil -- ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" Top Tips,,, Pretend you're on the Jerry Springer show by sitting in your dentist's waiting room, and punching the first person who enters the room. ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 25 12:47:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31217 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5890 invoked by alias); 25 Jul 1999 16:47:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5884 invoked from network); 25 Jul 1999 16:47:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 16:47:59 -0000 Received: from modem-70.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.70] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 118RR2-0000L7-00; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:47:36 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: AMOS Mailing List , Blitz Mailing List , Satanic Dreams Mailing List Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:17:57 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] The Chicken is BACK! Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi, Man, I'm back after two weeks of non-computery stuff. Well almost, I was at the WOA on Saturday (nice!). Geez, i's been TWO weeks since I've done any real typing, and doing this now feels weird, so apologies in advance for any typos :)) Right. I'm now replying to mails again (wahey!) so any queries directed straight at me (like, why didn't I come to the WOA dressed as a chicken?) to the usual addy :))) BTW, that Sandra out of Annex is HOOOOTTTTTT!!!!! But havin' said that, I f**ked my g/f last night. And then she goes and spoils it all by throwing up on me (she was pissed) :) Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* A child is a curly-haired, dimpled lunatic. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jul 25 20:39:53 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10119 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23284 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 1999 00:40:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 23171 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 00:40:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us) (207.156.5.150) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 00:40:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA28216 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:55:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:55:28 -0400 (EDT) From: fernando Bartra To: Amos List In-Reply-To: <003601bec31f$20ec1d60$082b63c3@default> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] UNSUBSCRIBE Status: O X-Status: From: fernando Bartra UNSUBSCRIBE --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. http://www.onelist.com Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 26 04:33:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA28908 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16264 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 1999 08:33:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16220 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 08:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 08:33:41 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.98]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA2F1E for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:38:59 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:34:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bed741$9fb46b80$6248a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990724232357.00911e80@pop3.demon.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello Neil, Mr Amos Club, I remember it well. You can find issues 1-6 and a few other things at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html I actually remember some of your contributions, did you do the article on artificial intelligence? You were right about one thing, it sure was a great diskmag that had some excellent tutorials and example code. If you are aching to get back into programming Amos Pro why not try WinUAE for your PC, I am assuming you are using a PC, and run Amos Pro on it. WinUAE is an Amiga emulator and it and numerous other emulators can be found at http://madjock.emulationworld.com/. I have WinUAE running Amos Pro here in work and toy around with it whenever I get a spare half hour, I really did it to see if I could and it works perfectly. Enjoy...... Declan. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 26 05:15:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA32465 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8819 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 1999 09:16:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8808 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 09:16:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 09:16:00 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.98]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA39F8 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:21:18 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: "'Amos-List'" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:16:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bed747$89498820$6248a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Cannot find AMCAF docs. Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello All, Having installed AMCAF and its documentation, I am unable to see any changes in the AMOSPro help file and any of the AMCAF docs. Can anyone help? Declan. http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/tsf.htm --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 26 22:44:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08661 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15327 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 02:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 4048 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 02:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpin.superonline.com) (212.252.112.111) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 02:33:07 -0000 Received: from ALPHA3.superonline.com (alpha3.superonline.com [194.242.73.11]) by smtpin.superonline.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18116 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from fcc205 (asy21.as03.bil1.superonline.com [194.242.76.127]) by ALPHA3.superonline.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 590-40531L0S0) with SMTP id AAA19387 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:34:27 +0400 Message-ID: <002801bed7d8$c8f41620$7f4cf2c2@fcc205> From: "Arda Oncu" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:36:08 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ynt: [amos-list] Clarification, Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: "Arda Oncu" >From: Rod Whiteley >Oh, and btw, I do need to have accurate date and time every day, I use my >amiga here at work for all our accounting/billing procedures (a proggy I >wrote in AmosPro), and it would be a pain in the arse to have to re-enter >date and time every time I start up. Unfortunately, it's sounding like that's >what I'll have to do >Cheers, >Rod It would be a problem if you were not an amos programmer.. if you have y2k problem with your battery backed up clock, then here is an idea: set your clock eg. 01.01.1980 and save it.when amos reads clock from system, add 20 years to date within your accounting program and it will be "01.01.2000", you can write a date modifying sub routine also, to correct day names. note: if you can understand something from my bad english, you can fix y2k problem also :)) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to MICHELLE UNSER This week’s FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jul 26 23:53:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA11478 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1182 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 03:53:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 1176 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 03:53:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 03:53:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4675 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 03:41:08 -0000 Received: from u29.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.29) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 03:41:08 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990727044703.009655f0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:52:40 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: <000901bed741$9fb46b80$6248a8c0@ki95142> References: <4.1.19990724232357.00911e80@pop3.demon.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Neil The Milky bars are on Declan Gorman,,, > Mr Amos Club, I remember it well. You can find issues 1-6 and a few other >things at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html Class! I was just reading those, it was spooky! I was 17/18 when I wrote all that stuff, that was like 5 years ago. > I actually remember some of your contributions, did you do the article on >artificial intelligence? Yeah! > You were right about one thing, it sure was a >great diskmag that had some excellent tutorials and example code. If you >are aching to get back into programming Amos Pro why not try WinUAE for >your PC, I am assuming you are using a PC, and run Amos Pro on it. Brilliant! I never even thought of that,even though I've been running a C64 emulator all week. Winuae works brilliantly, but now I have a problem. There doesn't seem to be any way to get my PC to read my original AMOS Pro disks,,,is there anywhere I can download AMOS Pro from? I'll have to get a way of transferring files eventually, because I've got about thirty disks of source code, including the source for the MAC diskmag engine! I would like to eventually do a special episode of MAC, to clear up what happened last time. I could call round to Brians house, get stoned with him, and then do an interview for the mag. Should be a good laugh, and I have loads of source-code to stick on there. So, anywhere I can get Amos Pro from? I'm gagging for it! Cheerio Neil -- ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" Top Tips,,, Pretend you're on the Jerry Springer show by sitting in your dentist's waiting room, and punching the first person who enters the room. ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 04:38:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA23597 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6910 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 08:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 6905 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 08:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.122) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 08:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 30215 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 1999 08:38:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990727083815.30214.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.186 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:38:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.186] From: "patrick Wesseling" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:38:14 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "patrick Wesseling" Check out http://www.xtpower.com/ for HUGE AMOUNT of links and software for UAE/Fellow. There are a lot of links and some of them must contain Amos software! Amos Pro is out there! Patrick Wesseling >From: Neil >Reply-To: amos-list@onelist.com >To: amos-list@onelist.com >Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:52:40 +0100 > >From: Neil > >The Milky bars are on Declan Gorman,,, > > > Mr Amos Club, I remember it well. You can find issues 1-6 and a few >other > >things at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html > >Class! I was just reading those, it was spooky! I was 17/18 when I wrote >all that stuff, that was like 5 years ago. > > > I actually remember some of your contributions, did you do the article >on > >artificial intelligence? > >Yeah! > > > You were right about one thing, it sure was a > >great diskmag that had some excellent tutorials and example code. If you > >are aching to get back into programming Amos Pro why not try WinUAE for > >your PC, I am assuming you are using a PC, and run Amos Pro on it. > >Brilliant! I never even thought of that,even though I've been running a >C64 emulator all week. Winuae works brilliantly, but now I have a problem. > >There doesn't seem to be any way to get my PC to read my original AMOS Pro >disks,,,is there anywhere I can download AMOS Pro from? > >I'll have to get a way of transferring files eventually, because I've got >about thirty disks of source code, including the source for the MAC diskmag >engine! I would like to eventually do a special episode of MAC, to clear >up what happened last time. I could call round to Brians house, get stoned >with him, and then do an interview for the mag. Should be a good laugh, >and I have loads of source-code to stick on there. > >So, anywhere I can get Amos Pro from? I'm gagging for it! > >Cheerio >Neil >-- >ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø >http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable > Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" >Top Tips,,, >Pretend you're on the Jerry Springer show by sitting in your dentist's >waiting room, and punching the first person who enters the room. >ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! >If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to >http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 05:41:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20441 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4711 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 09:41:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 4693 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 09:41:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 09:41:34 -0000 Received: from modem-87.radon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.215] helo=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk ident=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1193je-0008H2-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:41:22 +0100 From: Lee Marchment To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:43:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Lee Marchment Hi Chris >> Len Tucker? Both of these were great disk-mags, are they available on > the >> net anyplace by the way? > > I remember both as my brother used to get them :) And the Witby Amos Club > disk magazines as well. errm thats Whitby Amos club and it's just up the road from where I live. -- czya __ . . . ____ . . . l8r.../_ \ . . /_ / . . __ . . / /__ . __ . ____ / / . ____ /_ \ . . / ___/ ____ / /___ / __ \ / / . __ __ / __ \ / /__ . . / \ / __ \ / ____// /_/ // / / / / // / / // __/ / /\ \ / ____// /. / ____// /___ / / / // / / // \ . . . \/ .\// /__ /_/ / / . \____// /_/ //_/ /_// /\ \ . . \____\ . /_/ . . \____/ . \/ \/ lEe mARchmEnT - lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk - RGB - ICQ=28384616 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 05:28:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA24509 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32447 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 09:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 32439 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 09:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mhv.net) (208.195.228.27) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 09:29:01 -0000 Received: from mhv.net (04-ta01pk.idsi.net [205.232.27.34]) by mhv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA15546 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:28:47 -0400 Message-ID: <379D7C2E.19AD9696@mhv.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:30:22 -0400 From: Michael Drummond X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <000901bed741$9fb46b80$6248a8c0@ki95142> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Michael Drummond Declan Gorman wrote: > (snip) > WinUAE is an > Amiga emulator and it and numerous other emulators can be found at > http://madjock.emulationworld.com/. I have WinUAE running Amos Pro here in > work and toy around with it whenever I get a spare half hour, I really did > it to see if I could and it works perfectly. Enjoy...... > Hi Declan and all. I went to the madjock link and it listed KickStart as required file (Kick13.zip or Kick30.zip) I tried for the latter, but after two days the link still seems dead. Aminet has no Kick30.zip, but it does have a program to copy the Kick ROM to file. What did you use, Declan? Mike D. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 06:05:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA01657 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5811 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 10:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5804 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 10:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com) (208.14.214.114) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 10:04:56 -0000 Received: from ki95142 ([192.168.72.98]) by mail-ki.kild.eu.modusmedia.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA6B0 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:10:36 +0100 From: "Declan Gorman" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:05:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bed817$96743c40$6248a8c0@ki95142> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <379D7C2E.19AD9696@mhv.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Declan Gorman" Hello Michael, The file used to copy your 3.0 rom to a file is called Transrom and should come with the WinUAE archive in the Amiga Programs directory. Another small utility in the same directory is transdisk which copies your amiga disks to files for use in WinUAE. If you still cannot find them let me know and I will send them to you. Declan. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Drummond [mailto:miked@mhv.net] Sent: 27 July 1999 10:30 To: amos-list@onelist.com Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Hi Declan and all. I went to the madjock link and it listed KickStart as required file (Kick13.zip or Kick30.zip) I tried for the latter, but after two days the link still seems dead. Aminet has no Kick30.zip, but it does have a program to copy the Kick ROM to file. What did you use, Declan? 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For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 07:18:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17496 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20986 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 11:18:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20980 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 11:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 11:18:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11095 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 11:06:17 -0000 Received: from u54.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.54) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 11:06:17 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990727121635.00c2e600@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:17:42 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: <19990727083815.30214.qmail@hotmail.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Neil The Milky bars are on patrick Wesseling,,, >From: "patrick Wesseling" > >Check out http://www.xtpower.com/ for HUGE AMOUNT of links and software for >UAE/Fellow. There are a lot of links and some of them must contain Amos >software! Amos Pro is out there! > Nope, been hunting for it all night, with no joy. Does anyone have any ideas where a copy of Amos Pro would be? Or can anyone email it to me? I'd be very grateful. Cheerio Neil -- ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 09:22:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01961 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11452 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 12:58:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12535 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 12:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mel.aone.net.au) (203.12.176.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 12:34:22 -0000 Received: from magnet.com.au (rwhiteley@d37-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.37]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10233 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:31:07 +1000 (EST) From: Rod Whiteley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:26:50 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101bed747$89498820$6248a8c0@ki95142> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: Cannot find AMCAF docs. Status: O X-Status: From: Rod Whiteley G'Day Declan On 26-Jul-99, Declan Gorman wrote: > From: "Declan Gorman" > > Hello All, > Having installed AMCAF and its documentation, I am unable to see any > changes in the AMOSPro help file and any of the AMCAF docs. Can anyone > help? Same thing happened to me each time I installed AMCAF. I asked Chris Hodges about it, and he was a bit puzzled, saying that it shouldn't have happened. The first time I did it (AMCAF v1.44 I think), I just re-installed AMOSPro, then all of the extensions, and finally AMCAF, but chose not to install the AMCAF help files, and my original help files were left unmolested. Then, like the dill that I am, when I installed the full version that I reg'd from Chris, I asked to install AMCAF's help files... so it was re install time again as my help files were then trashed. Then along comes the new version, and, wait for it, yup I tromoped on my help files again. This time I haven't bothered to re-install (and when I posed this question to the list, no-one had a quick fix). So now, I keep the AMOSPro book close at hand, and wait for a simple solution to fall across my Incoming folder....please... Rod -- Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 10:05:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01342 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7039 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 14:05:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28504 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 13:52:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 13:52:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11396 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 1999 13:52:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990727135210.11395.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:51:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.8] From: "patrick Wesseling" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:51:58 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [amos-list] Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: "patrick Wesseling" This is almost 100% certain! The new CPU in the new Amiga's wil be Transmeta, from the company Transmeta. Also Linus the maker of Linux works there. And the new Amiga's will contain a Linux-based kernel. p.s. If anyone knows more about it, let me know! Patrick Wesseling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 10:33:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20159 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11065 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 14:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11046 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 14:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 14:32:47 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26470 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11612 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:32:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: AMOS List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] AMCAF Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > > > This is a pain b'coz you can't nicely browse thru AMCAF's > commands! > -- Leto Yes you can Leto, you just ahve to let your mind go, use the Amiga multi-taksing force!! AMCAF comes with complete docs in AmigaGuide Format open the docs in AmigaGuide on your workbench, load amos and then use left-Amiga-A to switch back and forth between the Workbench and Amos this is actually better than using the Amos Help docs because is it spares you the trouble of loading up the danged Help interface all the time. enjoy! > > is now fully released on Aminet (but it certainly would've been > worth the shareware fee). Who did the extension again, If I can get the Pt commands working right for use in my Movie Maker project I will send them the cash anyway, it is very nice! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 10:45:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21403 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25432 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 14:44:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25417 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 14:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 14:44:57 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02464 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:45:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17538 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:45:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:45:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990727121635.00c2e600@pop3.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Neil wrote: > Nope, been hunting for it all night, with no joy. > > Does anyone have any ideas where a copy of Amos Pro would be? Or can > anyone email it to me? I'd be very grateful. > If you already have the original disk you don't need to go score illicit copies. of course the PC can't read an Amiga floppy, but an Amiga can read a PC floppy, arc the disks and copy them to PC floppy then to your PC. Obviously you will have to fire up your old 'Miggy for this, but it'll do you some good anyhow. :) As for WinUAE and kickstart files, I'm not surprised the links you found busted out quickly. Amiga still owns the Copyright on those roms and is VERY serious about hanging onto it, largely because they are still developing OS 3.5, they have a big stake in not seeing the AmigaOS become freeware. Of course so does Clanato, that Italian Company responsibl for Personal Paint (bet they're sad to see Amiga Inc Signing with Corel, though Corel Draw ain't much better IMHO) who are also trying to Hauk a modified version of UAE with Amiga Inc. certified Roms for 40 USD. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 11:04:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA17574 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16150 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 15:04:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16130 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 15:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 15:04:16 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12525 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:04:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27289 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:04:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:04:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Off Topic: AmigaOS 3.5 Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" While was writing that last message (about WinUAE and roms) it occurred to me to ask you guys a quickie: Anyone planning to pick up OS 3.5?? It looks like a sizeable enhancement over OS 2.1 that I run, but over 3.0/3.1 that most you all have?? Any thoughts? Also when is it going to be released already, the NG amigas are supposed to be out in winter... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 11:58:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20718 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18905 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 15:58:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18865 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 15:58:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.union-investment.de) (62.144.69.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 15:58:52 -0000 Received: by gateway.union-investment.de id m1199QI-004PG6C; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:45:46 +0200 (METDST) Received: from email.union-investment.de(192.0.2.5) by gateway-1 via smap (3.2) id xma022743; Tue, 27 Jul 99 17:45:20 +0200 Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de by email.union-investment.de with esmtp with Smail id m1199LR-001J2mC; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:40:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <379DD411.48480A63@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:45:21 +0200 From: citrone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE To: amos-list Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] UNSUBSCRIBE Status: O X-Status: From: citrone UNSUBSCRIBE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 11:59:45 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03899 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20232 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 16:00:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20219 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 16:00:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gateway.union-investment.de) (62.144.69.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 16:00:09 -0000 Received: by gateway.union-investment.de id m1199Rr-004P5GC; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:47:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from email.union-investment.de(192.0.2.5) by gateway-1 via smap (3.2) id xma021827; Tue, 27 Jul 99 17:47:22 +0200 Received: from wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de by email.union-investment.de with esmtp with Smail id m1199NO-001J2kC; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <379DD48A.1C678472@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:47:22 +0200 From: citrone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE To: amos-list Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] on holidays Status: O X-Status: From: citrone iam on holidays for the whole august, see ya later, wish merry christmas and happy new year to all amos users. ;-) ps: if shell is off, there is no way to reconnect it again, sorry. iam working on a stable version! citrone ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 12:05:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20399 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23837 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 16:04:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23817 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 16:04:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au) (24.192.1.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 16:04:50 -0000 Received: from bigpond.net.au (CPE-24-192-26-211.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.26.211]) by mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04037 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:05:10 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: dvs1@bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: CPE-24-192-26-211.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.26.211] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <379DD997.B2DFDEDD@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:08:55 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <19990727135210.11395.qmail@hotmail.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: one fang patrick Wesseling wrote: > This is almost 100% certain! The new CPU in the new Amiga's wil be > Transmeta, from the company Transmeta. Also Linus the maker of Linux works > there. And the new Amiga's will contain a Linux-based kernel. The Amiga's icon is the Boing Ball, and Linux's icon is Tux the Penguin. This can mean only one thing... Penguins with Balls! Wasn't the Boing sound a mangled recording of a cricket bat hitting the side of a garage? That makes for very tough Penguins if they have been hit in the Balls with cricket bats B-). Anybody wanna do a graphic? -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 07:47:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21445 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1460 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 11:47:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1447 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 11:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 11:47:21 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA26326 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:47:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-23.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.23]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA00828 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:47:12 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:46:16 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] AMCAF Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I don't know if there's been a reply about the AMCAF docs question, but I also recently installed it after finding that it is now fully released on Aminet (but it certainly would've been worth the shareware fee). I found that the docs which the installer is supposed to append to the internal AMOS Help stuff only works for pressing the [help] key while the cursor is over a command. There doesn't appear to be any additional menus added. This is a pain b'coz you can't nicely browse thru AMCAF's commands! BTW: Which slot does GUI extension go in? I thought it was 8, but AMCAF goes there and GUI refuses to load if I put it in 8! -- Leto http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central http://lyle.cjb.net -- Lyle Comic Site http://blazingiris.cjb.net -- Blazing Iris AmiSoftware ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 13:30:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26635 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25849 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 17:31:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25805 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 17:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 17:31:00 -0000 Received: from mushy-pd.demon.co.uk ([158.152.212.229] helo=xohgoynt) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 119B3a-000JRf-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:30:27 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990727183204.0079a900@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:32:04 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Andy Kellett In-Reply-To: <19990727135210.11395.qmail@hotmail.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: Andy Kellett At 06:51 AM 7/27/99 PDT, you wrote: > >p.s. If anyone knows more about it, let me know! > >Patrick Wesseling Transmeta recently passed a brand new patent this week for a truly amazing piece of microchip. maybe it will be in the new Amiga! http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/07/25/1521226&mode=thread Let's just say that this will make an incredibly fast microchip =)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 14:28:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04174 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24607 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 18:27:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24509 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 18:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 18:27:23 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-027.enterprise.net [194.72.197.87]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10005 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:27:42 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:24:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Off Topic: AmigaOS 3.5 Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > While was writing that last message (about WinUAE and roms) > it occurred to me to ask you guys a quickie: > > Anyone planning to pick up OS 3.5?? > > It looks like a sizeable enhancement over OS 2.1 that I run, > but over 3.0/3.1 that most you all have?? Any thoughts? > > Also when is it going to be released already, the NG amigas > are supposed to be out in winter... nah, I'm not bothering with 3.5: waste of time for me as a) I don't have the 3.1 roms and b) I don't need anything else for my A1200, all the patches I have make it look nice and I already have more internet software then I need. And of course, I'll need to save up as much money as possible to buy an Amiga NG ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - *Stress Is:* The confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic desire to choke the living s&%t out of some asshole who desperately need it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 14:30:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31487 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 995 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 18:30:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 979 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 18:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 18:30:14 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-027.enterprise.net [194.72.197.87]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10629 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:30:37 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:27:49 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990727183204.0079a900@redrose.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Let's just say that this will make an incredibly fast microchip =)) Nah, wait 'till they get quantum processors working! Now that'd be fast. (actually, I wonder what the current dev. status of 'em are, last year they had a quantum transister working didn't they? or is going a little too offtopic?) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 1/7/99 --- James Bond, Out Now! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Pleasure, at the fairground, on the way... -- Simply Red ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 15:55:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29538 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:55:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1226 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 19:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23497 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 18:38:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 18:38:17 -0000 Received: from gpo1.mail.iol.ie (gpo1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.198]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA79433 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:38:17 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0881.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.147.113]) by gpo1.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23197 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:38:16 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo1.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <379E0BC6.3BCEC8E5@iol.ie> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:43:02 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] AMCAF Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Leto Kauler wrote: > > From: Leto Kauler > BTW: Which slot does GUI extension go in? 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If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 21:30:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13869 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31653 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 01:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 16616 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 00:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 00:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 6527 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 00:32:20 -0000 Received: from u41.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.41) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 00:32:20 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990728013740.01cca100@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:44:38 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990727121635.00c2e600@pop3.demon.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Neil The Milky bars are on Scooter D. Matott sXe,,, > If you already have the original disk you don't need to go score >illicit copies. of course the PC can't read an Amiga floppy, but an >Amiga can read a PC floppy, arc the disks and copy them to PC floppy >then to your PC. Obviously you will have to fire up your old 'Miggy >for this, but it'll do you some good anyhow. :) > Yep, kind of guessed that I could do that, but I was looking to get AMOS Pro fired up as fast as poss, and my power-brick is currently round at my mates. I'll have to look at transferring the files tomorrow if I can get the power supply back. I had an old copy of Messydos knocking about, that should do the job shouldn't it? 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For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 23:08:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA08749 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31459 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 03:01:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26348 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 01:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 01:39:46 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 119Ih5-000Kca-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:39:44 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01bed89a$1b19ee40$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:39:58 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > As for WinUAE and kickstart files, I'm not surprised the links > you found busted out quickly. Amiga still owns the Copyright on those > roms and is VERY serious about hanging onto it, largely because they are > still developing OS 3.5, they have a big stake in not seeing the AmigaOS > become freeware. Of course so does Clanato, that Italian Company responsibl > for Personal Paint (bet they're sad to see Amiga Inc Signing with Corel, > though Corel Draw ain't much better IMHO) who are also trying to Hauk > a modified version of UAE with Amiga Inc. certified Roms for 40 USD. I actually OWN a legal copy of Amiga Forever by Cloanto, which comes with the latest version of PPaint, which runs quicker than a standard 1200 on my new P550, but seems slower than my 68060 based amiga. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jul 27 21:54:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22549 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1993 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 01:50:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 29561 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 01:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 01:48:52 -0000 Received: from mirex.demon.co.uk ([158.152.68.125] helo=defiant) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 119Ipw-000LYO-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: <005d01bed89b$625ac940$0200a8c0@defiant> From: "Keith Hill" To: References: <19990727135210.11395.qmail@hotmail.com> <379DD997.B2DFDEDD@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:49:06 +0100 Organization: Mirex Software X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Off-topic! Transmeta Status: O X-Status: From: "Keith Hill" > > This is almost 100% certain! The new CPU in the new Amiga's wil be > > Transmeta, from the company Transmeta. Also Linus the maker of Linux works > > there. And the new Amiga's will contain a Linux-based kernel. > The Amiga's icon is the Boing Ball, and Linux's icon is Tux the > Penguin. This can mean only one thing... > Penguins with Balls! > Wasn't the Boing sound a mangled recording of a cricket bat hitting the > side of a garage? That makes for very tough Penguins if they have been > hit in the Balls with cricket bats B-). > Anybody wanna do a graphic? > Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! Sounds like a great idea ! As does the new gen amiga, the a\box, the pre\box, the amiga "vacuum" cleaner(well, maybe not), ppc chips and amiga emulators. It would be soooooo nice to see it working. Wake me up when it does. (PS, if any of that didn't sound serious, it actually was meant seriously) I would love to see a tough amiga that can play cricket with the best peecees. Preferably in an online deathmatch.. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 06:30:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA07513 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 291 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 10:30:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 286 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 10:30:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.109) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 10:30:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 91399 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 1999 10:30:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728103009.91398.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.183 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:30:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.183] From: "patrick Wesseling" To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:30:09 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [amos-list] New Amiga Pictures Status: O X-Status: From: "patrick Wesseling" Check out http://www.amiga.de/e-fr.html for pictures of the NEW machine! Looks fine! Patrick Wesseling --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 09:58:02 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19691 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15257 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 13:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15217 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 13:58:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 13:58:31 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17128; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:57:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03363; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:57:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:57:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Neil cc: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990728013740.01cca100@pop3.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RE: [amos-list] Anyone remember Mr Amos Club and Totally Amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Neil wrote: > From: Neil > > > > Yep, kind of guessed that I could do that, but I was looking to get AMOS > Pro fired up as fast as poss, and my power-brick is currently round at my I can understand, the thought of zipping up all six install disks, copying, unzipping, tricking them into installing, etc. kinda makes me cringe, but hey the things you have to do for the love of your 'miggy, ;) > mates. I'll have to look at transferring the files tomorrow if I can get > the power supply back. I had an old copy of Messydos knocking about, that > should do the job shouldn't it? yeah, if you run any OS past 2.1 it will have CrossDos built in too, but if not messyDOs should do the trick, though I advise keeping your files sizes as small as possible, I used to get lots of errors with MessyDOS and somehow learned to associate it with files > 400k. good luck! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Enjoy 120+ unique music channels right from your desktop! Download Spinner Plus 2.0 Click Here Spinner.com. Where music lives online. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 10:57:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08000 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25690 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 14:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25684 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 14:56:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 14:56:57 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16136 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:57:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07203 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:57:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:57:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990728013740.01cca100@pop3.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] MR. AMOS CLUB! Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Wow! Downloaded the MAC disks and ran them for the first time ever last night, believe it or not the Club was kind of before my time (not to make anyone feel old, I was still hacking a c64 back in those days... Well I gotta say they are NICE! The menu prog won't run right on my NTSC machine, but the sample programs run fine and man am I impressed.... I already ported the Iff font routine for simple use in my programs, love it! Of course I have one big question... Where did you guys learn to draw like that?!!!! Charlie the chimp looks georgus (well as georgus as a monkey can look anyhow) The extra gfx on there are great as well, really like the (very big!) Metal Man for the SF clone... ANd the all the backdrops looked so good! I would kill for that kind of gfx talent, how'd you guys get so good?? Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to MICHELLE UNSER This week’s FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 11:02:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28147 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32249 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 15:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 32173 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 15:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 15:01:49 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18511 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10318 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:01:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Off Topic: AmigaOS 3.5 Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Andy, I am in the same boat I guess, with OS 2.1, I'm not sure OS 3.5 is worth the trouble, but honestly in my heart I feel as if I should buy a copy, I mean the Amiga's survived hell to see a new product release, OS 3.5 is like the beginning of the great revival, I feel like I ought to support it... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 11:39:55 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16334 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7383 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 15:39:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 7345 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 15:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 15:39:30 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07485; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:39:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01264; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:39:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:39:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: patrick Wesseling cc: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <19990728103009.91398.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga Pictures Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" looks scary... like a new fangled DVD player ro something, too close to the CDTV for my tastes, but should be fun... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 12:36:16 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15588 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5343 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 16:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5324 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 16:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 16:35:27 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03296 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06147 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:30:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Sample Playing, PT Raw... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Awhile back I asked about PT raw and somebody replied saying the custom audio chips could only handle samples so big and anything bigger needed to be buffered in, well it's taken me forever to get backon this one, but Pt Raw truncates nearly every sound I give it, so does the sample player for Doom Music! it starts terds out very early on big sample and dies jsut before then end of small samples... I am very saddened by this... I am writing the Movie Maker theing to put snds and anims together would be great to be able to add music, esp. to be able to support so many music formats as does DME, but as always, playing a sample messes up the playing of the music. saerched the list archives, no luck with Pt Raw, does it run fine on your guy's machines??? Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to MICHELLE UNSER This week’s FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 12:44:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14175 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1477 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 16:44:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 1472 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0022.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.22]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA03882 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:44:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:42:07 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Off Topic:AmigaY2k Again... Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli Hi ppl:) this is to all those who worried abt y2k for miggys:) I re-read the Amiga y2k page on amiga.com, and I found I had mis-read something which others probably have too:) (this is abt amigas and not badly-written apps:) As far as I can see, the only time problems amigas with 3rd party battery backups will have is in the year 2078 when the rom reads the 78 as 1978, and in 2046 when the signed 32bit integer "rolls over" :) a value between 00 and 77 is interpreted as 2000+value a value between 78 and 99 is interpreted as 1900+value So DDMMYY doesn't matter for amigas. (for some reason i thought the 00 would be read as 1978... I think it was a magazine not-to-be-named-here that confused me into thinking that...) (sorry if this seems sooo obvious to those of you who weren't as confused abt it as me:) Regards, Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 19:29:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02657 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:29:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5193 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 23:30:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5185 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 23:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web902.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 23:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728232709.24067.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.142.92] by web902.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:27:09 BST Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:27:09 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Sample Playing, PT Raw... Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" wrote: > Awhile back I asked about PT raw and somebody > replied > saying the custom audio chips could only handle > samples > so big and anything bigger needed to be buffered in, The limit is 131072 bytes (or close), due to Paula. To get around this you can use AmigaOS audio.device, sending max-length blocks one after the other until the sample is all played (the iorequests are queued). >From AMOS I don't know. I could probably give code for playing one long sample, but more than one would be pretty tricky. Try chopping samples up into smaller samples. (Tricky) Try transposing the samples an octave up (resample) and playing them at a lower pitch. (Poor quality) > it starts terds out very early on big sample and > dies jsut before then end of small samples... Basically, if you chop 131072 bytes from the end until there is less than that left, that is what will play. So a 140000 bytes sample will play only 9000 bytes. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations DALMATIANRESCUE. Our latest ONElist of the week. To see full story and submit YOUR ONElist story, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/ootw_19.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 19:38:08 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10173 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27250 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 23:38:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27244 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 23:38:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web904.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 23:38:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728233739.29544.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.142.92] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:37:39 BST Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:37:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Off Topic: AmigaOS 3.5 Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" wrote: > product release, OS 3.5 > is like the beginning of the great revival, I feel > like I ought to support it... Personally I get a bit worried if someone tries to make me feel guilty if I don't buy something from them. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 19:47:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11378 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13782 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 23:47:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 13747 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 23:47:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web901.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 23:47:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728234412.2824.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.142.92] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:44:12 BST Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:44:12 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] amiga mouse driver Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi Here is that code I promised to read the second mouse port. I haven't tested it myself, but it looks feasible, and was from a mag (I think Amiga Shopper). Not exactly OS legal, but that doesn't matter anymore. Someone asked quite a while ago though... Claude ' magic registers _JOY0DAT = $DFF00A ' standard mouse port _JOY1DAT = $DFF00C ' second mouse port ' initialise mousex = 0 mousey = 0 counterx = Peek(_JOY1DAT+1) countery = Peek(_JOY1DAT ) DO ' main loop ' should probably waitvbl, but not strictly necessary oldcounterx = counterx oldcountery = countery counterx = Peek(_JOY1DAT+1) countery = Peek(_JOY1DAT ) deltax = counterx - oldcounterx deltay = countery - oldcountery ' counters wrap, correct deltas IF deltax < -128 THEN deltax = deltax + 256 IF deltax > 127 THEN deltax = deltax - 256 IF deltay < -128 THEN deltay = deltay + 256 IF deltay > 127 THEN deltay = deltay - 256 ' do fancy effects (eg acceleration, gravity) here mousex = mousex + deltax mousey = mousey + deltay ' keep within screen bounds here LOOP _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jul 28 22:03:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18224 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18789 invoked by alias); 29 Jul 1999 02:04:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18781 invoked from network); 29 Jul 1999 02:04:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.tibus.net) (212.108.64.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 1999 02:04:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12522 invoked from network); 29 Jul 1999 01:51:23 -0000 Received: from u65.pm1.club24.co.uk (HELO neil) (212.108.65.65) by mail.club24-net.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Jul 1999 01:51:23 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990729025652.00c05ee0@pop3.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: chilled.club24.co.uk@pop3.club24-net.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:02:39 +0100 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Neil In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990728013740.01cca100@pop3.demon.co.uk> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] MR. AMOS CLUB! Status: O X-Status: From: Neil The Milky bars are on Scooter D. Matott sXe,,, >Well I gotta say they are NICE! The menu prog won't run right >on my NTSC machine, but the sample programs run fine and man am I >impressed.... In the last 1 or 2 issues, there is a keyboard system, so you can navigate round with the number keys. >Where did you guys learn to draw like that?!!!! >Charlie the chimp looks georgus (well as georgus as a monkey can look anyhow) >The extra gfx on there are great as well, really like the (very big!) Metal >Man for the SF clone... ANd the all the backdrops looked so good! > >I would kill for that kind of gfx talent, how'd you guys get so good?? Well the graphics were all done by one fat guy called Ashley. Brian had known him for years, and as I recall, he used to charge Brian 20 quid for a screen full of graphics. Not a bad deal! I've got disks full of his graphics here, which you are all free to use, once I get them converted. I should have called round my mates house to get my power pack off him, but I've been too stoned. I need to get the lend of a cat-weasel or something, that would solve all my problems. Eventually I'll put together a wee mini Amos site, with loads of old source code and graphics. And then a new issue of MAC! I'll have to try and get the hold of Brian tomorrow. Cheerio Neil -- ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø http://www.coolc.demon.co.uk Neils Nick Abbot Site, Unbelievable Just Opened "It's Carol McGiffins Website, Oh Right Yeah!" Top Tips,,, Pretend you're on the Jerry Springer show by sitting in your dentist's waiting room, and punching the first person who enters the room. ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸»«¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ø¤°`°¤ø --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jul 29 13:49:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA23871 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21367 invoked by alias); 29 Jul 1999 17:49:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21356 invoked from network); 29 Jul 1999 17:49:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 1999 17:49:30 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-58-119.btinternet.com [195.99.58.119]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29051 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:48:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001a01bed9ea$23e2e6c0$773a63c3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:44:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BED9F2.5FE7EAA0" Subject: [amos-list] Info Please Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BED9F2.5FE7EAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, could anyone tell me how to write a small program I can = put in the "user-startup" that uses the clock as a variable. For = instance=20 "IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): SAMPLAY (whatever): ENDIF You know the sort of thing. I prefer it in Amos as I am not familiar with any other languages, = unless anyone can write me a batch file. It would be a bit of fun to have the miggy greet me with "Good morning = or good evening you old sod" or something like that. By the way, can anyone tell me how to trace why the mouse port on my = A1200 has ceased to work, "It's not the mouse". I have to use "MouseIt" on the serial port and its very limiting. Also I'm trying to find a good 3D drawing and/or anim program (not amos = 3D) more like 'Truspace' on the PC. I heard Cinema 4D is good but I = don't know where to get hold of it. Thanks. Old Wrinkly ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BED9F2.5FE7EAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everybody,
       =20         could anyone tell me how to write = a small=20 program I can put in the "user-startup" that uses the clock as a = variable. =20 For instance
"IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): = SAMPLAY=20 (whatever): ENDIF
You know the sort of = thing.
I prefer it in Amos as I am not = familiar with any=20 other languages, unless anyone can write me a batch file.
It would be a bit of fun to have the = miggy greet me=20 with "Good morning or good evening you old sod" or something like=20 that.
By the way, can anyone tell me how to = trace why the=20 mouse port on my A1200 has ceased to work, "It's not the = mouse".
I have to use "MouseIt" on the serial = port and its=20 very limiting.
Also I'm trying to find a good 3D = drawing and/or=20 anim program (not amos 3D) more like 'Truspace' on the PC.  I heard = Cinema=20 4D is good but I don't know where to get hold of it.
       =20     Thanks.
       =20             =     Old=20 Wrinkly
 
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Sender: root@mr4.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au Message-ID: <37A1A32C.310B1A8C@bigpond.net.au> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:05:48 +1000 From: one fang Organization: Anarchadia, where freedom rules with an iron fist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: one fang Leto Kauler wrote: > suggestion was that floating point calculations, which is supposed > involved with arrays like: PLAYER#() are _very_ slow. I've been > using these arrays heaps in my new tank code! I can not afford > for the game to be slow. What do other people know about this? > If it's true, how can I get around it? Floating point is always slower than integer. What you do about it is use fixed point maths. Multiply all your floating point numbers by some suitable power of ten, then do the math using the integer part and convert back again later. Better yet, don't bother with the conversion steps at all, just treat the integers as if there was a decimal point in them at a fixed point in the integer. This is commonly known computer science, not just AMOS. -- Look out your Windows, the Penguins are coming, and they've got Balls! David Seikel dvs1 Digital Polyglot World's Greatest Programmer. "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 12:17:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18901 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24856 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 16:18:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24845 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 16:18:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 16:18:20 -0000 Received: from modem-98.radon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.226] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AFLy-0005gQ-00; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:17:51 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: AMOS Mailing List , Satanic Dreams Mailing List , Blitz Mailing List , afb@egroups.com Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] --> OFF-TOPIC! A small request that will only take 5 mins <-- Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi, OK. I want everyone reading this to email support@take2games.com and ask them to convert GTA and GTA London over to the Amiga. I already have done, and if enough people aask, it may happen. It won't take 5 mins, and even a bit of that will be sending it to the mail server ! Apologies to every1 whos subscribed to more than one list and has to get this mail more than once. Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Fruit Loops: Gay Cheerios. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations DALMATIANRESCUE. Our latest ONElist of the week. To see full story and submit YOUR ONElist story, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/ootw_19.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 08:00:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04949 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3024 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 12:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 3018 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 12:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 12:00:31 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA28388 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:00:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (dialup-m2-52.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.116]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA05549 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:00:13 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:15:27 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I think Claude was going to send some code for use of a mouse in the joy-stick port. Thanks, but I found that the AMCAF extension supports this nicely! The big PROBLEM: my joystick port doesn't work with a mouse anymore!!!!! I noticed it a while back now when a friend and I went to play Settlers together. Two mice USED to work, but now they don't! argh! What could be the trouble, and can I fix it?? Also, I found on Aminet a doc on optimising AMOS code. One suggestion was that floating point calculations, which is supposed involved with arrays like: PLAYER#() are _very_ slow. I've been using these arrays heaps in my new tank code! I can not afford for the game to be slow. What do other people know about this? If it's true, how can I get around it? -- Leto --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 13:11:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28344 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 434 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 17:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 420 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 17:11:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 17:11:19 -0000 Received: from modem-120.vaqta.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.91.248] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AGBe-0001CX-00; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:11:14 +0100 From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D To: Satanic Dreams Mailing List , Blitz Mailing List , AMOS Mailing List Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:31:07 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Weapons Status: O X-Status: From: Gaz-JD/FX-s^D Hi, I know I've been sending a lot of off-topic mails recently, but they are all related to blitz/amos in some way. Are there any gun fanatics out there? By that I don't mean murderers, I mean match rifle shooters, or just general followers of the sport (there is one, despite press 'knowledge'. I know because I'm a target rifle shooter myself) I need smallish images (about 4-8 colours reduced) of the following weapons. I've looked on internet, but no luck. maybe u know where to look, or u have these pics somewhere on your hd. 9mm Handgun (silenced, and NO SOCOM PISTLS PLEASE!) 12-guage shotgun HK-5 Machine Gun G-18 Pistol Machine Gun (does this exist? I saw it in Syphon Filter. 60rnds per second! WOW!) M-79 Grenade Launcher (like the one from T2) Sniper Rifle of some kind A really futuristic, powrful looking gun that could come under this category "TOP SECRET MILITARY-GRADE WEAPON" say a railgun or summat. I'm doin' a stealth-em-up game, as some of you already know. I need these for the status panel. Thanx. Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* I always give people a second chance, but never a third. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 16:02:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12552 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18401 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 20:03:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18116 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 20:02:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 20:02:43 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20998 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01524 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:01:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:01:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <37A1A32C.310B1A8C@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" I thought the AMos opt file had specific descriptions of how to use fixed point arithmetic... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 17:10:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02959 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22071 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 21:10:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 22062 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 21:10:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 21:10:59 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-44-178.btinternet.com [195.99.44.178]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06685 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:09:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004b01bedacf$6da57d00$b22c63c3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:03:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEDAD7.67CC0400" Subject: [amos-list] Info PLEASE! Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEDAD7.67CC0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, could anyone tell me how to write a small program I can = put in the "user-start-up" that uses the clock as a variable. For = instance=20 "IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): SAMPLAY (whatever): ENDIF You know the sort of thing. I prefer it in Amos as I am not familiar with any other languages, = unless anyone can write me a batch file. It would be a bit of fun to have the miggy greet me with "Good morning = or good evening you old sod" or something like that. By the way, can anyone tell me how to trace why the mouse port on my = A1200 has ceased to work, "It's not the mouse". I have to use "MouseIt" on the serial port and its very limiting. Also I'm trying to find a good 3D drawing and/or anim program (not Amos = 3D) more like 'Truspace' on the PC. I heard Cinema 4D is good but I = don't know where to get hold of it. Thanks. Old Wrinkly ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEDAD7.67CC0400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everybody,
       =20         could anyone tell me how to write = a small=20 program I can put in the "user-start-up" that uses the clock as a=20 variable.  For instance
"IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): SAMPLAY = (whatever):=20 ENDIF
You know the sort of = thing.
I prefer it in Amos as I am not = familiar with any=20 other languages, unless anyone can write me a batch file.
It would be a bit of fun to have the = miggy greet me=20 with "Good morning or good evening you old sod" or something like=20 that.
By the way, can anyone tell me how to = trace why the=20 mouse port on my A1200 has ceased to work, "It's not the = mouse".
I have to use "MouseIt" on the serial = port and its=20 very limiting.
Also I'm trying to find a good 3D = drawing and/or=20 anim program (not Amos 3D) more like 'Truspace' on the PC.  I heard = Cinema=20 4D is good but I don't know where to get hold of it.
       =20     Thanks.
       =20             =     Old=20 Wrinkly
------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEDAD7.67CC0400-- From nobody Fri Jul 30 17:47:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21612 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32484 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 1999 21:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 32261 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 21:47:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 21:47:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-022.enterprise.net [194.72.197.82]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21704 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:47:19 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:44:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004b01bedacf$6da57d00$b22c63c3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Info PLEASE! Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > could anyone tell me how to write a small program I can put in the "user-start-up" that uses the clock as a variable. For instance > "IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): SAMPLAY (whatever): ENDIF > You know the sort of thing. ok, gimmie an hour or two and I'll see if I can knock something up for ya ;) As for a 3d program, I have the free version of imagine4, want it ? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Napoleon Bonaparte was afraid of cats. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jul 30 21:09:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA29397 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8580 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 01:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 8574 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 01:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 01:09:55 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-089.enterprise.net [194.72.196.209]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA14778 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:09:54 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004b01bedacf$6da57d00$b22c63c3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1197594504.1" Subject: [amos-list] Re: Info PLEASE! Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.1197594504.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > could anyone tell me how to write a small program I can = put in the "user-start-up" that uses the clock as a variable. For instan= ce = > "IF TIME>(u) AND TIME< (uu): SAMPLAY (whatever): ENDIF > You know the sort of thing. ok, here you go. I adopted it from my countdown2000 program. I suggest when you compile it you set it to have amos to back on booting = and cli programs to run in the background. I havn't tested it, but in theory it works. (famous last words ;) See ya. -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Q: What is brown and sticky? A: A stick. --BOUNDARY.1197594504.1 Content-Type: text/plain; name="saytime.asc" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="saytime.asc" CHKDATE 'Print At(0,0);DAT;" /";MON;" /";YEAR,HR;" :";MN;" :";SC;" " Rem Activate it if you want to show the time/date Set Talk 0,0,100,150 If HR=>4 and HR<12 Say "Good morning dave" Else If HR=>12 and HR<18 Say "Good afternoon dave" Else If HR=>18 and HR<22 Say "good evening dave" Else Say "good night dave" End If Rem Please feel free to change'em to your own samples etc. End Procedure CHKDATE Shared DAT,MON,YEAR,HR,MN,SC T$=Space$(12) Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) A=Doscall(-192) L2=Leek(Varptr(T$)+4) L3=Leek(Varptr(T$)+8) E1=L2/60 : E2=L2 mod 60 : E3=L3/50 E1=Val(Mid$(Str$(E1),2)) E2=Val(Mid$(Str$(E2),2)) E3=Val(Mid$(Str$(E3),2)) 'Print E1,E2,E3 ML$="203232332323" 'T$=Space$(12) 'Dreg(1)=Varptr(T$) 'A=Doscall(-192) L1=Leek(Varptr(T$)) X=L1 : L=365 YEAR=1978 : MON=0 While X=>L Inc YEAR Add X,-L If(YEAR mod 4)=0 Then L=366 Else L=365 Wend L=31 While X=>L Inc MON Add X,-L L=Asc(Mid$(ML$,MON+1,1))-20 If L=28 and(YEAR mod 4)=0 Then Inc L Wend If MON>0 Restore MON For A=1 To MON Read Y X=X+Y Next End If MON=MON+1 DAT=Y HR=E1 MN=E2 SC=E3 MON: Data 31,28,31,30,31,30,31,31,30,31,30,31 End Proc --BOUNDARY.1197594504.1-- From nobody Sat Jul 31 09:12:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11427 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6496 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 13:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6490 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 13:12:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 13:12:37 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.20] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A86F2EB301F0; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:13:35 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com, AMOS Mailing List , Satanic Dreams Mailing List , Blitz Mailing List , afb@egroups.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:52:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] --> OFF-TOPIC! A small request that will only take 5 mins <-- Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Gaz, On 30-Jul-99, you wrote: > OK. I want everyone reading this to email support@take2games.com > and ask them to convert GTA and GTA London over to the Amiga. I > already have done, and if enough people aask, it may happen. As you may know I did this a while ago :) They said they might be interested and to get some Amiga developers to contact them. I told Vulcan (It was when they did Amiga stuff ;) ) and also clickBOOM. clickBOOM said they would keep me posted and this was about 6 months ago so I guess nothing happend :( Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! 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Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 09:22:09 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA31806 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2075 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 13:21:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2067 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 13:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 13:21:50 -0000 Received: from gpo2.mail.iol.ie (gpo2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.199]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA33812 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:22:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0633.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.146.121]) by gpo2.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27187 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:22:04 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo2.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37A307BD.B717C3B5@iol.ie> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:27:09 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <002801bed7d8$c8f41620$7f4cf2c2@fcc205> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Ynt: [amos-list] Clarification, Amiga & Y2K Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Arda Oncu wrote: > > From: "Arda Oncu" > > >From: Rod Whiteley > > >Oh, and btw, I do need to have accurate date and time every day, I use my > >amiga here at work for all our accounting/billing procedures (a proggy I > >wrote in AmosPro), and it would be a pain in the arse to have to re-enter > >date and time every time I start up. Unfortunately, it's sounding like > that's > >what I'll have to do > >Cheers, > >Rod Another option is also, to set the auto get time thing in what ever app you use to go online. I think I remember seening it in Miami and AmiTCp. What it does is, everytime you go online, it sets your clock off your isps clock. So you would need to go online everytime you boot, it maybe more hastle, depending on how often you go online. cya, -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |···········. : / \| | Author of : .-------//° \ .-| ENViSAGE : .··| /° __/ \ |···········' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 11:05:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02175 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18680 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 15:05:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18657 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 15:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero1.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 15:05:31 -0000 Received: from usr00.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.34]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20847 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:02:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-56.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.248]) by usr00.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00546 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:02:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: AMOS List Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] GUI Extension Bug Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller Noticed a really weird bug in the GUI extension. The funny thing is, that the following program works fine from the editor. But when compiled, you can start it and absolutely nothing happens! Trapping down the error was pretty time consuming (as it was in a 50K source code), but I did it: The problem is with the Dim A(255,255) line. If it is changed to Dim A(255,254) it works! It is not a memory problem (tried with Set Buffer 40000 ;). Apart from the first line you can change the rest of this program with any GUI stuff you want. The problem stays the same. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not sure if this problem happens without GUI stuff aswell? Anyway... Set Buffer 500 Dim A(255,255) A=Tcp F Open(1,"CON:320/0/320/128/Test/CLOSE",1) A=Tcp Signal(1,0,0) Do A=Gui Wait If Tcp Line$(1)<>"" Then Exit Loop Tcp Close 1 -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk -i am henry the red... lord of the northlands and leader of its people -you ain't leadin' but two things now, pal! jack and shit, and jack left town! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 11:40:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23780 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12340 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 15:40:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12298 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 15:40:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 15:40:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-003.enterprise.net [194.72.196.3]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA29771 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:40:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:40:24 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: GUI Extension Bug Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Noticed a really weird bug in the GUI extension. It is not a bug in the gui extension... > code), but I did it: The problem is with the Dim A(255,255) line. yep, thats the problem. You are dimming an array that has 256x256 records, which is 65536. This is too many for amos to handel, although it does work through the editor for some reason. What you'll have to do is split the array in to: Dim A1(255,128),A2(255,128) and then when accessing it put: If B<128 A1(A,B)=C else A2(A,B-128)=C end if See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Charles Lindbergh took only four sandwiches with him on his famous transatlantic flight. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 17:27:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02998 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17559 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 21:27:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17554 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 21:27:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 21:27:57 -0000 Received: from usr02.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.82]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29695 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:19:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-3.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.195]) by usr02.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10024 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:19:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:06:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Re: GUI Extension Bug Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 31-Jul-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> code), but I did it: The problem is with the Dim A(255,255) line. > > yep, thats the problem. > > You are dimming an array that has 256x256 records, which is 65536. This is > too many for amos to handel, although it does work through the editor for > some reason. That's just completely weird. Anyway, we got it figured out... -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - you're all clear, kid! - now let's blow this thing and go home... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 15:34:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27934 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26051 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 19:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26044 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 19:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 19:34:13 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-45-221.btinternet.com [195.99.45.221]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27381 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:34:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004401bedb8b$382c0a60$dd2d63c3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: References: Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:29:25 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: Info PLEASE! Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric Molyneux" > Hi Everybody, > As for a 3d program, I have the free version of imagine4, want it ? > Yes Please, Andrew! Would Be Most Grateful --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 16:24:53 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09367 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22512 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 20:25:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22473 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 20:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web904.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 20:25:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990731202425.9895.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.142.80] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:24:25 BST Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:24:25 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- Leto Kauler wrote: > Also, I found on Aminet a doc on optimising AMOS > code. One > suggestion was that floating point calculations, > which is supposed > involved with arrays like: PLAYER#() are _very_ > slow. I've been > using these arrays heaps in my new tank code! I can > not afford > for the game to be slow. What do other people know > about this? Floating point numbers are very slow (unless you have an FPU). Especially double precision. Fixed point numbers are really integers manipulated in a cunning way. The basic idea is the same as using pence instead of pounds in a money calculation. Here are the simple rules: addition/subtraction: same as for integers x*k + y*k = z*k multiplication: multiply, then divide by magic constant (x*k * y*k)/k = z*k division: multiply top by magic constant, then divide (x*k * k) / y*k = z*k If you use 256 as a magic constant, then you can use shift operations. I wrote some assembly language stuff to do this quickly, I wouldn't know how to link it in with AMOS though. I can post it to the list if you want. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 15:56:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04832 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12664 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 19:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12657 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from gpo1.mail.iol.ie (gpo1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.198]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA55623 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:56:50 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0321.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.65]) by gpo1.mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA54547 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:56:49 +0100 (IST) Sender: PaC@gpo1.mail.iol.ie Message-ID: <37A36441.B70AC537@iol.ie> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:01:53 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Modem's Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Hiyas! Does anyone know how to make a modem dial a certain number through amos ? thx, -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |···········. : / \| | Author of : .-------//° \ .-| ENViSAGE : .··| /° __/ \ |···········' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /______|____\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 16:20:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03326 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2318 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 20:19:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 2282 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-063.enterprise.net [194.72.196.63]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29158 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:20:10 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37A36441.B70AC537@iol.ie> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Modem's Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Does anyone know how to make a modem dial a certain number > through amos ? Simple, open the serial port, and send the string "ATDT03456634456"+chr$(10)+chr$(13) The chr$'s at the end are important as the modem needs the LF+CR format. PS. I may have got the 10 and 13 round the wrong way, try both. PPS. Send "ATA"+chr$(10)+chr$(13) and you can pick the modem up in amos. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as his internal organs were consumed by a flesh eating virus. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jul 31 16:34:15 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21872 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7182 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 1999 20:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 7107 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 20:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 20:34:46 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-063.enterprise.net [194.72.196.63]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00538 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:34:06 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:33:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990731202425.9895.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: 2nd mouse & Floating point Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > If you use 256 as a magic constant, then you can use > shift operations. I wrote some assembly language > stuff to do this quickly, I wouldn't know how to link > it in with AMOS though. I can post it to the list if > you want. I believe if you multiply/divide by powers of 2, then the compiler automaticall optimises those opperations. Although, surly to do that kind of shift opps with /256 would be a simple case of a=rnd(999999) b=deek(vaptr(a)+1) print b,a/256 See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own, -- Ace of Base --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 13:14:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA24211 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5394 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 17:14:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5328 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 17:14:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 17:14:50 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.132.141] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2321420114; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:15:30 +0100 From: roger buckley To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 17:33:33 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: roger buckley Hi everyone, For the last couple of years any buttons I've used have all been inside the 640x200 range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I cannot get the mouse down low enough. My latest project involves forward/backwards buttons which look pretty stupid half way up the screen. Can anyone help please ? If I can solve this I might be able to stem Andrew's monopoly of the Readers Games Prize (fat chance!). Actually I might get on with my projects faster if I could stop playing James Bond all night. Kind regards roger buckley --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 14:07:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28062 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31333 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 18:07:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31302 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:07:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:07:27 -0000 Received: from du-61.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.61]:1210 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <21212-1148> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:07:22 +0300 Message-ID: <002b01bedd12$73235dc0$3dc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: "Amos-list" Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:09:56 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: [amos-list] I want JB Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Andrew (Crowe), I have read too much good stuff of your James Bond -game. I have to get it. The only problem is that I have to use a peecee for e-mail and net stuff:( Is it too hard to split your JB to <720kb .lha -files and place them to your web-site? Please.... [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 14:55:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07315 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11977 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 18:55:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11931 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web903.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.78) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:55:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990802185538.12859.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.144.230] by web903.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:55:38 BST Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:55:38 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Re: parallel port samplers Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- Andrew Crowe wrote: > > Does anyone have any code they can send me for reading > > from a parallel port sampler cartridge? > > Using the info in the technosound manual I got > data from one, but it didn't seem to be much use as > when I played it as a sample it was just noise. > Perhaps I have to sign the data, or maybe it > couldn't sample it fast enough to get any meaningful > sound from it? Do you still have that info? It would be a great help as AMOS isn't my first language anymore. Did it detail the custom chips registers you had to deal with? The format is probably 8bit signed or unsigned, just experiment. Sampling fast enough could be a problem, if you have a 7 MHz processor sampling stereo at 22050 Hz that leaves you with about 160 clock cycles to do everything, including running the operating system. Time for assembly language... Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 14:45:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09970 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23716 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 18:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23694 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:45:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:45:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-024.enterprise.net [194.72.196.24]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25372 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:44:56 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:44:44 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > For the last couple of years any buttons I've used have all been inside the > 640x200 > range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I > cannot get the mouse down low enough. My latest project involves > forward/backwards buttons which look pretty stupid half way up the screen. > Can anyone help please ? Have you tried either: Limit mouse 0 (that turns off mouse limiting, or is it 1?) or Limit mouse x hard(0),y hard(0) to x hard(640),y hard(256) > If I can solve this I might be able to stem > Andrew's monopoly of the Readers Games Prize (fat chance!). Don't worry, I doubt that I'll be doing any more readers games, I'm breaking into the commercial market now (yeah, about 10 years too late!!) Yes, thats right, be on the look out for such brilliant titles as 'Blast Squad' and 'Pictris AGA', comming to a store near you ;) > Actually I > might get on with my projects faster if I could stop playing James Bond all > night. ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he noticed the mercury trip switch. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 14:48:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18223 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22431 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 18:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22291 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:48:21 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-024.enterprise.net [194.72.196.24]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25870 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:47:44 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:47:30 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002b01bedd12$73235dc0$3dc7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: I want JB Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Hi Andrew (Crowe), > I have read too much good stuff of your James Bond -game. I have to get it. The only problem is that I have to use a peecee for e-mail and net stuff:( Is it too hard to split your JB to <720kb .lha -files and place them to your web-site? Please.... woah no, I'm sorry, I can't upload 4 megs to the damn Tripod server, I'd be there all day! What you can do, is use this program (from aminet). Its a PC file splitter, that way you can use it to split the game up on the PC, then copy it to disks and re-join it with, say, MuiJoin on your amiga. Get FSplit from: http://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/misc/emu/fsplit.zip See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Meet me in the crowd, people, people. -- REM --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 16:19:37 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20642 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10046 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 20:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10039 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 20:20:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crux.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.59) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 20:20:06 -0000 Received: from rm1-864.tiscalinet.it (root@rm1-864.tiscalinet.it [212.123.80.230]) by crux.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12192 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:19:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: KillGates Inc Date: 2 Aug 99 22:14:51 +0200 Message-Id: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Screen Problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Once upon a time there was a sage, roger buckley, who enlightened the world about [amos-list] Screen Problem > For the last couple of years any buttons I've used have all been inside the > 640x200 > range as even though I open a 640x256 screen and alter the mouse limit I > cannot get the mouse down low enough. My latest project involves > forward/backwards buttons which look pretty stupid half way up the screen. > Can anyone help please ? If I can solve this I might be able to stem > Andrew's monopoly of the Readers Games Prize (fat chance!). Actually I > might get on with my projects faster if I could stop playing James Bond all > night. I know that it sounds stupid, but have you tried putting the Direct Mode window lower? I found that most of the times I cannot get the mouse lower unless I put the window down... Hope this helps Regards, Paolo ... Windows Error #018: Unrecoverable Error - System destroyed - Buy a new one. Old license is not valid anymore. -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x Paolo Rinaldi amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it lazybone@diff.org --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Aug 2 15:19:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00614 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 355 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 19:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 337 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 19:19:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 19:19:52 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-012.enterprise.net [194.72.195.12]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01970 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:19:15 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 20:19:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990802185538.12859.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Re: parallel port samplers Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > The format is probably 8bit signed or unsigned, just > experiment. Sampling fast enough could be a problem, > if you have a 7 MHz processor sampling stereo at > 22050 Hz that leaves you with about 160 clock cycles > to do everything, including running the operating > system. Time for assembly language... you know asm? excellent, thats what language they gave it in, I just modified it to amos code. Here's what the manual says: 1. Initialise the parallel port: Move.b #0,$bfe301 ;set port to input Move.b #6,$bfd200 ;ini left and right channel Move.b #2,$bfd000 ;select left channel (send 4 for right channel) 2. Read the data. Move.b $bfe101,d0 ;Get sample data Subi.b #128,d0 ;sign the data there you go, It was a simple task of changing the move.b's to peeks and pokes to use it in amos. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Tiger stripes are like human fingerprints - no two tigers have the same pattern of stripes. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html