From nobody Tue Jun 1 10:53:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27185 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4452 invoked by alias); 1 Jun 1999 14:53:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 4434 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 14:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 14:53:33 -0000 Received: from usr00.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.34]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10038; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:46:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-3.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.3]) by usr00.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20439; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:46:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Larsen To: amos-list@onelist.com CC: Keith Hill Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 02:06:35 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Buhh! Status: O X-Status: From: Palle Larsen Hi! Den 31-Maj-99 skrev * de Jong *: *dJ*>>> KH> From: "Keith Hill" *dJ*>>> KH>> BUHHHHH!!! *dJ*>>> KH> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! *dJ*>>> I thought that the list was dead, but hey it's not ;). *dJ*>> *dJ*>> Nearly, but not quite ! *dJ*>> *dJ*>>> What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? *dJ*>> *dJ*>> Ya got me. Maybe it rolls to the floor or something. Or maybe it's *dJ*>> reborn in a new cheese in it's next life. Maybe it just gets eaten. I think it's the holes that piles up to fart ;). *dJ*> *dJ*> Maybe he left his alone computer to get a bite to eat and his little *dJ*> brother (if *dJ*> he has one) decided to play a trick on him :)). (sending email under *dJ*> his name) Nope, I'm to old to have a little brother ;), and my daughter is to young to play with computer's, she's only 18 month :), so I'll be the one to blame ;)). -- Best Wishes Palle (BALLS) Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://p.larsen.homepage.dk/ H-Page: http://p.a.larsen.homepage.dk/ ICQ: 15538608 Nick: SkodSoft Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 1 18:35:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16330 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31924 invoked by alias); 1 Jun 1999 22:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 31916 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 22:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 22:36:14 -0000 Received: from eaborn.powernet.co.uk (root@bmip153.powernet.co.uk [195.60.5.153]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA00711 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:31:35 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Steve Eaborn To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Motivation? Status: O X-Status: From: Steve Eaborn Motivation, huh? Games are my forte. I've written a few since the first incarnation of Amos. I look on it as a creative hobby, a bit like painting. I think that writing a game is the most demanding application you can write for any computer. It takes programming ability to be able to synchronise events in real time and make a game appear smooth I was away from the Amiga scene for quite a while until I found a second-hand A1200 going cheap (my trusty old A500 having finally given up the ghost), so I got back into coding games again and found the thrill was still there. No matter what language you use to write, on whichever platform, there is always a better way of doing something, and it's finding the better way that gives the most satisfaction. I like Amos because it has limitations (in it's basic form anyway), and I like to stretch these limitations as far as I can. As far as actual coding goes, I rarely finish a game. I like to look at an existing game and say to myself 'I wonder if that could be done in Amos', so away I go and try. If I make that idea work, then I tend to lose interest in finishing the project. No game that I have written up to now has been totally original (although I do have an idea that I'm dwelling on at the moment). Now I am married with a one-year-old son, I want to be able to write games and educational programs for him. Even if the Classic Amiga disappears into the sunset someday, you might still find me huddled in my study writing ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 1 16:44:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA30331 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16159 invoked by alias); 1 Jun 1999 20:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 16152 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 20:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 20:44:15 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-001.enterprise.net [194.72.196.1]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29214 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:44:44 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:44:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] JOY vs KEYSTATE Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> It's (probably - haven't tried the exact keys out) due to the way the >> Amiga keyboard is handled. Some keys just don't fit together. > > Ah yes, I remember. This must the problem with Octamed. You cant play > chords on an A1200. Ahh, you /can /if you use different rows on the keyboard ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I no longer fear hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 1 20:48:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15855 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 639 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 00:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 628 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 00:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 00:48:39 -0000 Received: from goliath (p089.rp7.space.net.au [202.168.100.90] (may be forged)) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA13870 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:48:35 +0800 Message-ID: <37547F47.1C52@space.net.au> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:48:07 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <007901beac61$5de44a00$0301010a@mydomain.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." Agent Hawkins, reporting in from the cold!!!! > > What happened to my artist? My programmers? My team? > One programmer, reporting for duty, Sir! > > > Is CBAT NAM truly cursed? > "Well, now, I wouldn't say THAT..." > > Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What was YOUR favorite part?! > http://www.onelist.com > Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 160,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 1 23:08:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28040 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14569 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 03:07:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14559 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 03:07:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.eisa.net.au) (203.166.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 03:07:29 -0000 Received: from mine (Ender@ppph2-5.eisa.net.au [203.166.250.5]) by mail.eisa.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA28356 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:07:30 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990602131019.007c0100@vision.net.au> X-Sender: ender@vision.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:10:19 +1000 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" Eh? CBATNAM? Oh, THAT! *grin* Well, ye second member of the bonus stage is still hanging around, sorta. PAC? You out there? Helllllllllllllloooooo? :) == Ender >What happened to my artist? My programmers? My team? Is CBAT NAM truly cursed? > >Well met and godspeed, > Rev. Giark > ICQ 12235820 > giark@ragemail.com > http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ > .----------------------------------------------. > | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | > | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | > | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | > | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | > | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | > | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | > | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | > | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | > `----------------------------------------------' > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where the world talks! >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > > James Brown == Ender/Amigo == Ender@vision.net.au Sys Admin/Programmer: ADM Development (Http://www.admdev.com) Sys Admin/Webmaster: ERA Online (Http://www.animorphs.org.au) Coder of: EasyCuts, QuakeMovie, CoopWorld, Castle Forte, CBATNAM Taz-Mania, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? http://www.onelist.com Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 02:15:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA31759 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31623 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 06:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 31616 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 06:15:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pine.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 06:15:14 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by pine.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09125 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:16:01 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:15:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:15:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > "Rev. Giark To You" wrote: > >What happened to my artist? My programmers? My team? I'm still here as your ever faitful betatester. >Is CBAT NAM truly cursed? Cursed? Oh-noo! Magnus Life is a car wash and I'm on a bicycle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 18 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 08:08:36 1999 Received: from ahmler1.mail.eds.com (ahmler1.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.77]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24753 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nnsa.eds.com (nnsa2.eds.com [192.85.154.30]) by ahmler1.mail.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16397 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ushem103.exse01.exch.eds.com ([206.122.215.125]) by nnsa.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07585 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by USHEM103 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:07:59 -0400 Message-ID: <66A57735EFD3D211B80400600815A745E83139@USHEM201> From: "Cox, Michael D" To: mcox4@osf1.gmu.edu Subject: [amos-list] CBATNAM Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:07:58 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: "Cox, Michael D" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Status: O X-Status: Michael Cox -- EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@EDS.com (703)742-2543 (F) -----Original Message----- From: Adam Parrott [mailto:parrottsoft@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:03 PM To: amos-list@onelist.com Subject: Re: [amos-list] CBATNAM From: "Adam Parrott" > What happened to my artist? My programmers? My team? One programmer, reporting for duty, Sir! > Is CBAT NAM truly cursed? "Well, now, I wouldn't say THAT..." Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What was YOUR favorite part?! http://www.onelist.com Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 08:09:00 1999 Received: from portal.gmu.edu (portal.gmu.edu [129.174.1.8]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01757 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.eds.com (ns1.eds.com [192.85.154.78]) by portal.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03709 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nnsa.eds.com (nnsa2.eds.com [192.85.154.30]) by ns1.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA08245 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ushem103.exse01.exch.eds.com ([206.122.215.125]) by nnsa.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07801 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by USHEM103 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:23 -0400 Message-ID: <66A57735EFD3D211B80400600815A745E8313A@USHEM201> From: "Cox, Michael D" To: mcox4@gmu.edu Subject: [amos-list] odd compiler prob... Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:23 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: "Cox, Michael D" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Status: O X-Status: From: "Adam Parrott" > If i dimension an array bigger than the standard variable space, (even if > I Setbuffer with insanely high numbers) the compiled program just exits > with "illeagal instruction" error... does anyone know how to fix this? If you look in the AMOS Pro manual, you will see this: "...each dimension can have up to 65,000 elements." The strange thing about this is that uncompiled, AMOS doesn't catch this problem [or bug] (even if you go way over the limit; not sure how far, though). However, if you compile the program, namely as a compiled AMOS proggie, then it will quit with the error that you described. Either way, it seems to be one of AMOS' limitations, and the only way around it is to either 1) use less than 65,000 elements or 2) use an alternative method for storing your arrays (ie. banks or sequential files). Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 08:09:22 1999 Received: from portal.gmu.edu (portal.gmu.edu [129.174.1.8]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21191 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmler1.mail.eds.com (ahmler1.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.77]) by portal.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29995 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nnsa.eds.com (nnsa2.eds.com [192.85.154.30]) by ahmler1.mail.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16567 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ushem103.exse01.exch.eds.com ([206.122.215.125]) by nnsa.eds.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07956 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by USHEM103 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:45 -0400 Message-ID: <66A57735EFD3D211B80400600815A745E8313D@USHEM201> From: "Cox, Michael D" To: mcox4@gmu.edu Subject: [amos-list] JOY vs KEYSTATE Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:46 -0400 Return-Receipt-To: "Cox, Michael D" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller On 01-Jun-99, Eric Molyneux wrote: > NOW, do exactly rthe same thing using Keystate, with keystate(77) curs down, > for jdown(1) and keystate(64) spacebar, for fire(1). > Fine, they both work great. > Now try the two together and it locks up, Why?. It's (probably - haven't tried the exact keys out) due to the way the Amiga keyboard is handled. Some keys just don't fit together. It's the same on the PC. Ever tried playing Micro Machines in two player mode on keyboard? If you hold down three keys, your opponent wont be able to control his car! Very annoying! Try to use the shift keys (Shift, Control, Alt and Amiga) - they never have any problems. -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - don't know about you, but i intend to write a strongly worded letter to the white star line about all this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 08:10:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23423 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20100 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 12:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20089 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 12:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 12:10:07 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id WAA06563 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:10:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m2-5.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.69]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id WAA01531 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:10:16 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:51:01 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Ready to crash? Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler Is anyone interested in crashing their computer? I've been writing a game in AMOS, and I've come across a bizarre bug / problem which *stuffs* the screen up with an assortment of crazy patterns, freezes the game... then sits thinking about what's happening and then crashes! If anyone was interested in wasting their time having a gander, or have had something similar happen to them, I can send the trouble-making program (50K LhA'd) I did eventually find the problem, but *why* it happened still eludes me. -- Leto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of nearly 160,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 15:30:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08475 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25166 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 19:29:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 25144 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 19:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 19:29:41 -0000 Received: from default (host5-171-246-20.btinternet.com [195.171.246.20]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id UAA01178 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:30:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004c01bead2e$43f6c820$14f6abc3@default> From: "Eric Molyneux" To: "Amos - List" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:20:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Joy vs Curs Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric Molyneux" Hi Everyone, Thanks a lot for your comments on Curs/Spacebar syndrome, it's surprising what you learn if you ask. I thought the fault was me going senile. Thanks Old Wrinkly ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 160,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 15:22:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21605 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13062 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 19:22:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13057 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 19:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 19:22:37 -0000 Received: from GPO2.GPO.iol.ie (GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA76421 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:22:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0567.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.146.55]) by GPO2.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06305 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:21:59 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <375595AD.1377A2A4@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:35:57 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] CBATNAM Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Rev. 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Please share your story. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 2 18:28:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21782 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13041 invoked by alias); 2 Jun 1999 22:28:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 13030 invoked from network); 2 Jun 1999 22:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 1999 22:28:55 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-063.enterprise.net [194.72.196.63]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13778 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:28:11 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:27:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Ready to crash? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Is anyone interested in crashing their computer? I've been > writing a game in AMOS, and I've come across a bizarre bug / > problem which *stuffs* the screen up with an assortment of crazy > patterns, freezes the game... then sits thinking about what's > happening and then crashes! > > If anyone was interested in wasting their time having a gander, or > have had something similar happen to them, I can send the > trouble-making program (50K LhA'd) > > I did eventually find the problem, but *why* it happened still > eludes me. Go ahead, make my day :). I'm used to making amos crash, so I'll have a butchers at it for ya... (not on purpose, obviously ;) (PS. What do'ya rekon causes it? It's not because you're using Turbo's 'F Paste Icon' is it?) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - ... Windows Error #00A: Promotional literature overflow. Mailbox full. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of nearly 160,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 07:37:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06430 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7437 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 11:35:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 7395 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 11:35:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 11:35:13 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA26785 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:35:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-50.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.50]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA16278 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:35:21 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:57:47 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Something else too Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler There's also another strange phenomenon happening with AMOS: When I run my "MapEditor" program... (hmm... this is a bit hard to explain)... when I click a mouse button on certain areas, the Workbench system sound is activated!! It also rings with certain events during the program! The curious thing is, it doesn't occur on every button click or event..... I find this rather inexplicable. You can imagine how quickly a "chomp" sound would get when played over and over and over and over........ Any ideas anyone? -- Leto WWW - http://lyle.cjb.net -- Lyle Comic Site - http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central - http://blazingiris.cjb.net -- Blazing Iris AmiSoftware ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 07:55:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31300 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31597 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 11:55:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31585 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 11:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 11:55:51 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA27784 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:55:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-50.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.50]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA21317 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:55:46 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: Andrew Crowe Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:37:16 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Ready to crash? Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler You wrote: >(PS. What do'ya rekon causes it? It's not because you're using >Turbo's 'F Paste Icon' is it?) Uh oh.... is there something wrong with that command????? I use it heaps in the program....... -- Leto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Congratulations to 'Voice-Diary,' our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 14:07:14 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19066 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19535 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 18:07:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19520 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 18:07:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 18:07:42 -0000 Received: from [193.237.1.24] (helo=steve1.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10pyN3-000Jgy-0B for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:07:10 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: Amos-List Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:59:18 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi all, anyone here running a blizzard 603e+ in a Power Tower? (from power computing) if so, email me.. I need help.. ASAP!!!! Steve -- Stephen Thornber | Current Imagine/LW/C4D/T3D Projects SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | Aftermath [##........] 20% Complete A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Congratulations to 'Voice-Diary,' our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 15:00:56 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29769 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11339 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 19:01:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11310 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 19:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 19:00:59 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-074.enterprise.net [194.72.196.194]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15298 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:00:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:25:41 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Ready to crash? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > You wrote: >> (PS. What do'ya rekon causes it? It's not because you're using >> Turbo's 'F Paste Icon' is it?) > > Uh oh.... is there something wrong with that command????? I use > it heaps in the program....... its buggy. Use 'F 16proc Icon' or 'F 32proc Icon'. They're almost as fast but have no bugs (only work for 16x16 and 32x32 icons respectivly) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hitler and Napolean each had only one testical. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 160,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 16:30:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14427 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11284 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 20:31:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11269 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 20:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lyra.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 20:31:05 -0000 Received: from rm2-823.tiscalinet.it (root@rm2-823.tiscalinet.it [212.123.85.61]) by lyra.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26896 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:30:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: Privato Date: 4 Jun 99 22:18:48 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Hi Stephen! > anyone here running a blizzard 603e+ in a Power Tower? > (from power computing) > if so, email me.. I need help.. ASAP!!!! Well, I am running it; but you must be warned that I am almost illiterate when it comes to hardware, so I dunno how much I can help you... Anyway, what's the problem? Regards, Paolo -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys." Paolo Rinaldi amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.onelist.com Deadline is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 19:12:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15638 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17267 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 17247 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 23:12:26 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.147] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A011C5C60252; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:15:45 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:49:41 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] amos.com registration? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Hi y'all, I'll get to the point very quick, well I see that the official amos page is at, http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html Which is quite a long address and is on free space, I wonder if anyone would be interested in me registering www.amos.com if its still free or www.amos.net if its not. This could offer email addresses for products, and Amos groups etc, for example Andrew Crowes Mantasoft amos group could have, mantasoft@amos.com as well as other groups having other addresses. We could also sub-domain from amos.com with things like, www.mushy.amos.com for a Mushy PD site or anything of importance. I was thinking that the main site could be a global place for amos users around the world, how often have you typed anything of interest without actually knowing if the site exists, you would type www.name-of-a-group.com and most probably come up with a site to do with the group you where looking for even if you didn't know the site was actually there. I'm sure some people have thought lets try for an Amos site, hmm maybe www.amos.com would be a good idea, its easy to remember. they type it and find nothing exists, if i registered it then we could have the biggest global resource for amos programs. We could have sections for news, latest releases detailing anything programmed in amos new, tutorials and help sections giving extensive help into every single problem. We could have sections for important projects like the new Amos with up to the second news on what is going on, an amos swap section, questions and answers where people can post questions and anyone could give an answer, ideas pool where authors could get ideas from users who use their software. Just think this could be a mass resource for Amos. For this to happen I need *alot* of support to make it worth while buying the domain and paying for hosting etc etc. I will also not beable to put 100% into this project because of running alot of other things so would need alot of help, ie. html coders, ideas, gfx, layout designers and other helpers of other sorts. You could advertise for rare disks of amos, need helpers for your utility or game? this could be a great chance to let them know, put together new teams to design new amos products, games/apps made in amos or extensions etc. You never know big brother multi-million pound company or an Amiga company could spot your work and give you your break. It will allow a main centre for all small one man teams to unite. If anyone has any ideas on this or if you think its a good idea reply to the list and let everyone know. If www.amos.com is taken we could have www.amos.net or www.amos.org Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know each week we feature a ONElist story? http://www.onelist.com How has ONElist changed your life? Please share your story. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 19:12:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11600 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17366 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17335 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 23:12:28 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.147] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A013C5C60252; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:15:47 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Motivation? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Leto, On 24-May-99, you wrote: > Well, abouts the only almost decent thing I've coded in AMOS is my > *explosiveCHAOS* bomberman clone game. Looking at it now, it is > rather old and yucky.... explosiveCHOAS got 78% in AIO - Issue 18, November 1998. With quote "so i'd say go for it!" Alot of Amos things have been reviewed in AIO so if you want to see an archive of whats been reviewed all with total review scores and small quote goto, *http://www.aio.co.uk/games.htm* or *http://www.aio.co.uk* /-)Click MISC then Games Archive(-\ (You never know, if you've uploaded some thing made in Amos then its probably been reviewed in AIO sometime or another, you may find your game in there) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 160,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 19:12:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05320 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17579 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 17553 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 23:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 23:12:32 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.147] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A017C5C60252; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:15:51 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:49:58 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] FTP send through amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Hi, I was wondering if any knew if its possible to open a TCP session via amos? I know its possible to access the serial port and also to run external TCP programs but is there any internal Amos way? My need to know this is I want to make a small example to send a file from one computer to an FTP site on another. You run the program on your computer and the file you suppy is sent directly to the ftp site IP you give. I don't know if this is possible but if anyone has any ideas then that would be great! If its not possible then maybe the new Amos that is being produced could have good TCP/IP workings. ie. allow TCP programs to be made. 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Please share your story. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 4 19:35:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA25457 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29953 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 1999 23:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29939 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 23:34:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 23:34:49 -0000 Received: from [193.237.1.24] (helo=steve1.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10q3Uj-000GxW-0B for amos-list@onelist.com; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:35:25 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:17:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi Paolo >Well, I am running it; but you must be warned that I am almost >illiterate when it comes to hardware, so I dunno how much I can >help >you... >Anyway, what's the problem? The problem is my keyboard interface. it works fine without my ppc060 board, but when I plug in my ppc060 9 times out of 10 the miggy won't come on when I power up. (the num lock doesn't light) and I have to switch off also if the miggy crashes or I reset, the keyboard locks and I have to power down for 1-2 hours!!! with the ppc060 out, it works fine and resets okay.. I've tried my ppc060 board in my spare miggy, and it works fine, no probs.. so obviously the keyboard interface doesn't like my accel..? any ideas how I fix it..? I need my 060, my backup accel (an 030) seems soooo slow. its like wading though teacle... and It only takes an 8mb simm.. I can do bugger all with 8mb :( (BTW - my keyboard interface is a little farting thing which actually "sits" on top of a chip to the right of where the keyboard ribbon should go.) any suggestions..???!! Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | Current Imagine/LW/C4D/T3D Projects SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | Aftermath [##........] 20% Complete A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Bugs come in through open WINDOWS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.onelist.com Deadline is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 01:53:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18876 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30207 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 05:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 30181 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 05:53:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.eisa.net.au) (203.166.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 05:53:07 -0000 Received: from mine (ppph2-92.eisa.net.au [203.166.250.92]) by mail.eisa.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA26875 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:52:24 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990605155518.007c56c0@vision.net.au> X-Sender: ender@vision.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:55:18 +1000 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] amos.com registration? Status: O X-Status: From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" -- Snip (hey, read the original message :) -- This, of course, is a excellent idea. Brilliant, fantastic, long needed, etc, etc, etc :) I acually considered doing something like this myself, at once stage, but never acually got around to it :) James Brown == Ender/Amigo == Ender@vision.net.au Sys Admin/Programmer: ADM Development (Http://www.admdev.com) Sys Admin/Webmaster: ERA Online (Http://www.animorphs.org.au) Coder of: EasyCuts, QuakeMovie, CoopWorld, Castle Forte, CBATNAM Taz-Mania, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 08:37:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06894 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16970 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 12:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16937 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 12:36:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 12:36:40 -0000 Received: from usr02.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.82]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01110 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:33:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-7.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.7]) by usr02.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14085 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:33:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Larsen To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 14:25:39 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] FTP send through amos? Status: O X-Status: From: Palle Larsen Hi Chris! Den 05-Jun-99 skrev Chris Seward: CS> From: Chris Seward CS> CS> Hi, CS> CS> I was wondering if any knew if its possible to open a TCP session via CS> amos? I could answer this VERY short, GUI.EXTENSION by Pietro Ghizzoni. Latest version so far is (V1.75 20-11-98), but a new one should be on the way. Check it out it's worth it and even better it's FREEWARE, but he will be glad to receive a postcard with lovly XXCENSUREDXX ;)))). -- Best Wishes Palle (BALLS) Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://p.larsen.homepage.dk/ H-Page: http://p.a.larsen.homepage.dk/ ICQ: 15538608 Nick: SkodSoft Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 14:45:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20775 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20536 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 18:45:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20518 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 18:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 18:45:07 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-054.enterprise.net [194.72.196.174]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20160 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:45:06 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:18:31 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990605155518.007c56c0@vision.net.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Anyone a good artist? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I have a huuuuge problem: I've been given a commercial contract (yeeehhhhhh!) to write a game, but I'm no good at gfx. (uh oh) I don't suppose anyone'd like to help out with 32 colour cartoony characters for my bomberman clone 'Bomber Blaster'? Please? Money would be involved ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Do you suffer from long term memory loss? I can't remember... -- Chumbawamba ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 16:56:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18310 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9362 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 20:55:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 9164 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 20:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lyra.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 20:55:45 -0000 Received: from rm1-454.tiscalinet.it (rm1-454.tiscalinet.it [212.123.79.74]) by lyra.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22413 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:56:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: Privato Date: 5 Jun 99 13:19:41 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Hi Stephen! > The problem is my keyboard interface. [...] > with the ppc060 out, it works fine and resets okay.. > > I've tried my ppc060 board in my spare miggy, and it works > fine, no probs.. so obviously the keyboard interface doesn't > like my accel..? > any ideas how I fix it..? Well, I have no idea... But you could do like me, and use a (shame on me!) win95 keyboard, as they are said to be cheap and the port at the back of the Power Tower is ok for them. Then you just need to get a win95 keymap (it is on Aminet, if I remember well), or you can use the english one correcting the keys which are different (that's what I did, and now I've got 2 Ctrl and 2 Help keys). The only drawback I've found is that unless I press the Left-A key it doesn't recognize either of the Ctrl keys, but after pressing it once everything works fine... Not much help, but if you can't find anything else... Regards, Paolo -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys." Paolo Rinaldi amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 13:08:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17202 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12586 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 17:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12581 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 17:08:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 17:08:55 -0000 Received: from modem-112.earache.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.102.112] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=root) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10qJvn-0000eR-00; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:08:27 +0100 From: Gareth Griffiths To: Blitz Mailing List , AMOS Mailing List Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 18:07:44 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] This is an emergency! (PLEASE READ!) Status: O X-Status: From: Gareth Griffiths Hi, I want to say thanks to everyone who sent files to me that I requested, but can I just ask you all to stop now! I've got all of the files I need, yet I get a few every day from helpfuls. I am not having a go at any1 before you ask, this mail is just to notify you all that I have the files required and that no more sending is needed. Cya! Gaz. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 16:44:25 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28021 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30117 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 20:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 30110 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 20:43:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 20:43:49 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-14-156.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.156]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA08296 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:44:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 16:40:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] FTP send through amos? Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 04-Jun-99, Chris Seward wrote: >I was wondering if any knew if its possible to open a TCP session via >amos? Yes. >I don't know if this is possible but if anyone has any >ideas then that would be great! GUI extension has TCP commands. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@ragemail.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 17:15:25 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09520 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15143 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 1999 21:14:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15136 invoked from network); 5 Jun 1999 21:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 1999 21:14:49 -0000 Received: from [212.229.51.157] (helo=a-clarke.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10qNmi-0004ce-0B for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:15:20 +0000 From: Ashley Clarke To: All Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:11:14 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Help re Extensions. Status: O X-Status: From: Ashley Clarke I've downloaded three Extensions from the Amos Factory to find them difficult to install: "Craft", Has got a bad keymap for the installer (which also crashes on my A1200); "JD", uses location 12 on the Interpreter set-up which clashes with other Extensions; "OS Dev Kit", has the installer missing completely and some Directories, and "Turbo+", messes-up the Amos Pro Interpreter-Config file (I think). Where exactly is the Amos Pro Interpreter Config file read from? I've tried using the Editor Menu options for Loading and Saving custom Interpreter files in "SYS:S", without much luck, although the Editor Loads the Default alright. I'm using Version 2. Can all the Extension commands be Compiled? This is my first attempt to access extra Extensions, other than the ones supplied with the Updater. Do they really make that much difference to the ease of programming? -- Ashley Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Congratulations to 'Voice-Diary,' our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 21:31:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20284 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18223 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 01:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 16104 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 01:29:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 01:29:13 -0000 Received: from [193.237.1.24] (helo=steve1.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10qRc2-000IoW-0C for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:20:34 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi Paolo >Well, I have no idea... >But you could do like me, and use a (shame on me!) win95 keyboard, as >they are said to be cheap and the port at the back of the Power Tower >is ok for them. Then you just need to get a win95 keymap (it is on >Aminet, if I remember well), or you can use the english one correcting >the keys which are different (that's what I did, and now I've got 2 >Ctrl and 2 Help keys). The only drawback I've found is that unless I >press the Left-A key it doesn't recognize either of the Ctrl keys, but >after pressing it once everything works fine... I am using a lame pc shit keyboard :( as I couldn't afford a miggy one. :( >Not much help, but if you can't find anything else... damn Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | Current Imagine/LW/C4D/T3D Projects SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | Aftermath [##........] 20% Complete A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got an opinion? http://www.onelist.com Make it count! Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 5 23:47:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07199 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24054 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 03:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24046 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 03:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.tx.home.com) (24.4.0.66) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 03:46:02 -0000 Received: from cm60308a ([24.7.230.209]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990606034644.USLJ22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cm60308a> for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:46:44 -0700 Message-ID: <005a01beafcf$2760d0e0$d1e60718@ftwrth1.tx.home.com> From: "Adam Parrott" To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:45:09 -0500 Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Help re Extensions. Status: O X-Status: From: "Adam Parrott" Greetings, Ashley. > Where exactly is the Amos Pro Interpreter Config file read from? I'm not entirely sure, but I think it reads it from S: first, and if it's not found there, then it checks your AMOSPro_System: directory. The file it checks, of course, is the AMOSPro.Interpreter_Config file. > Can all the Extension commands be Compiled? Turbo Plus can (the full version anyways), and so can the others, unless they are demo versions that won't allow you to compile them. > Do they really make that much difference to the ease of programming? Many can, namely AMCAF, Turbo+, TGE, and GUI, to name a few. Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator Parrottsoft website under reconstruction. Contact above for more details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 02:43:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA13252 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21263 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 21256 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (209.178.63.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 06:43:26 -0000 Received: from p4y1w4 (2Cust59.tnt18.dfw5.da.uu.net [208.254.184.59]) by raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20244 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002d01beafe7$21078640$3bb8fed0@p4y1w4> From: "Drew" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:33:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] odd compiler prob... Status: O X-Status: From: "Drew" PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM YOUR LISTING -----Original Message----- From: Adam Parrott To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [amos-list] odd compiler prob... >From: "Adam Parrott" > >> If i dimension an array bigger than the standard variable space, (even if >> I Setbuffer with insanely high numbers) the compiled program just exits >> with "illeagal instruction" error... does anyone know how to fix this? > >If you look in the AMOS Pro manual, you will see this: >"...each dimension can have up to 65,000 elements." > >The strange thing about this is that uncompiled, AMOS doesn't catch this >problem [or bug] (even if you go way over the limit; not sure how far, >though). However, if you compile the program, namely as a compiled AMOS >proggie, then it will quit with the error that you described. > >Either way, it seems to be one of AMOS' limitations, and the only way >around it is to either 1) use less than 65,000 elements or 2) use an >alternative method for storing your arrays (ie. banks or sequential files). > >Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Campaign 2000 is here! >http://www.onelist.com >Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 02:43:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA07310 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11945 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11917 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (209.178.63.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 06:43:18 -0000 Received: from p4y1w4 (2Cust59.tnt18.dfw5.da.uu.net [208.254.184.59]) by raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20255 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002e01beafe7$223ecdc0$3bb8fed0@p4y1w4> From: "Drew" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:36:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] JOY vs KEYSTATE Status: O X-Status: From: "Drew" PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM YOUR LISTING -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [amos-list] JOY vs KEYSTATE >From: Andrew Crowe > >Hi Everybody, > >> problem thaqt I can't figure out. Take the following;- >> If jdown(1):y=y+1:endif : rem Fine, bob moves down OK, no probs' if >> fire(1)::endif; rem Fine, _Fire works OK Now do the two >> together and it works fine as you would expect, Bob moves down and fires >> at the same time, no problem whatsoever, done it hundreds of times. >> NOW, do exactly rthe same thing using Keystate, with keystate(77) curs >> down, for jdown(1) and keystate(64) spacebar, for fire(1). Fine, they both >> work great. Now try the two together and it locks up, Why?. All the rest >> work OK, Up, Right, Left with Fire(spacebar). only down is effected. in >> the end, I have had to use an Alt key for Fire. A simple way to test this, >> is use "Bell " and "Shoot"in place of the bob move and the fire >> It's surprising how often one gets these things, which outwardly don't >> make sence. > > Congratulations, you have descovered the EVIL which is keyboard conficts. >This happens whenever a key on the same line is pressed. (try c and v or b >or n for example) The arrow keys are evil as they conflict with all the >lines of letters and should not be used for more then one player > > What you should have for two players: > > [S or D] > >[Z] [X] [C] > >with shifts and > > [0 or -] > >[o] [p] [[] > >with other shifts etc > > That way you get no conflict. > >-- > Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing > Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 >Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes > - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - >Samuel Baldwin was buried at sea in 1736 at the >deceased's own request in order to frustrate his wife - in >frequent squabbles she declared her intention to dance on his grave. >--The Miscellanea Digest > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Congratulations to "M-K-ROSES," our latest ONElist of the Week. >http://www.onelist.com >Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 160,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 02:43:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02045 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12828 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12812 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 06:43:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (209.178.63.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 06:43:19 -0000 Received: from p4y1w4 (2Cust59.tnt18.dfw5.da.uu.net [208.254.184.59]) by raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20272 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002f01beafe7$23962060$3bb8fed0@p4y1w4> From: "Drew" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:37:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Help re Extensions. Status: O X-Status: From: "Drew" PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM YOUR LISTING -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Clarke To: All Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 4:15 PM Subject: [amos-list] Help re Extensions. >From: Ashley Clarke > >I've downloaded three Extensions from the Amos Factory to find them difficult >to install: > >"Craft", Has got a bad keymap for the installer (which also crashes on my >A1200); >"JD", uses location 12 on the Interpreter set-up which clashes with other >Extensions; >"OS Dev Kit", has the installer missing completely and some Directories, and >"Turbo+", messes-up the Amos Pro Interpreter-Config file (I think). > >Where exactly is the Amos Pro Interpreter Config file read from? >I've tried using the Editor Menu options for Loading and Saving custom >Interpreter files >in "SYS:S", without much luck, although the Editor Loads the Default alright. >I'm using Version 2. > >Can all the Extension commands be Compiled? >This is my first attempt to access extra Extensions, other than the ones >supplied with >the Updater. Do they really make that much difference to the ease of >programming? > >-- > >Ashley Clarke > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >"Congratulations to 'Voice-Diary,' our latest ONElist of the Week. >http://www.onelist.com >Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 02:55:32 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA08008 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24949 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 06:54:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 24935 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 06:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (209.178.63.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 06:54:58 -0000 Received: from p4y1w4 (2Cust59.tnt18.dfw5.da.uu.net [208.254.184.59]) by raven.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA22491 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00ac01beafe8$bd245160$3bb8fed0@p4y1w4> From: "Drew" To: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:45:51 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] amos.com registration? Status: O X-Status: From: "Drew" PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM YOUR LISTING -----Original Message----- From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: [amos-list] amos.com registration? >From: Chris Seward > >Hi y'all, > >I'll get to the point very quick, well I see that the official amos page >is at, > >http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > >Which is quite a long address and is on free space, I wonder if anyone >would be interested in me registering www.amos.com if its still free or >www.amos.net if its not. This could offer email addresses for products, >and Amos groups etc, for example Andrew Crowes Mantasoft amos >group could have, mantasoft@amos.com as well as other groups having >other addresses. > >We could also sub-domain from amos.com with things like, > >www.mushy.amos.com for a Mushy PD site or anything of importance. > >I was thinking that the main site could be a global place for amos users >around the world, how often have you typed anything of interest without >actually knowing if the site exists, you would type >www.name-of-a-group.com and most probably come up with a site to >do with the group you where looking for even if you didn't know the >site was actually there. I'm sure some people have thought lets try >for an Amos site, hmm maybe www.amos.com would be a good idea, its >easy to remember. they type it and find nothing exists, if i registered >it then we could have the biggest global resource for amos programs. > >We could have sections for news, latest releases detailing anything >programmed in amos new, tutorials and help sections giving extensive >help into every single problem. We could have sections for important >projects like the new Amos with up to the second news on what is going >on, an amos swap section, questions and answers where people can >post questions and anyone could give an answer, ideas pool where >authors could get ideas from users who use their software. > >Just think this could be a mass resource for Amos. For this to happen >I need *alot* of support to make it worth while buying the domain and >paying for hosting etc etc. I will also not beable to put 100% into this >project because of running alot of other things so would need alot >of help, ie. html coders, ideas, gfx, layout designers and other helpers >of other sorts. > >You could advertise for rare disks of amos, need helpers for your >utility or game? this could be a great chance to let them know, put >together new teams to design new amos products, games/apps made >in amos or extensions etc. You never know big brother multi-million >pound company or an Amiga company could spot your work and give >you your break. It will allow a main centre for all small one man teams >to unite. > >If anyone has any ideas on this or if you think its a good idea reply >to the list and let everyone know. > >If www.amos.com is taken we could have www.amos.net or www.amos.org > >Toodle Pip! >-- >Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk >*http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 >Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha >Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Did you know each week we feature a ONElist story? >http://www.onelist.com >How has ONElist changed your life? Please share your story. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 18:22:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07551 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23178 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 22:22:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23146 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 22:22:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bianca.scs.com.br) (200.231.154.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 22:22:07 -0000 Received: from tteste (ra1-11.scs.com.br.154.231.200.in-addr.arpa [200.231.154.41]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id TAA02277 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:18:37 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <199906062218.TAA02277@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:19:37 +0000 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3.0.5.32.19990605155518.007c56c0@vision.net.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [amos-list] Anyone a good artist? Status: O X-Status: From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Hello there as said... > I don't suppose anyone'd like to help out with 32 colour cartoony > characters for my bomberman clone 'Bomber Blaster'? I can give a try , but that would be 3d render transformed to cartoon.(might look good as bomber clones are top-view) For the normal-fashion-cartoon , talk to Leto as he is very good! See ya! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got an opinion? http://www.onelist.com Make it count! Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 18:10:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13786 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28742 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 22:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28664 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 22:09:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 22:09:18 -0000 Received: from usr02.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.82]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA10509 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:01:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-8.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.8]) by usr02.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA15466 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:01:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Larsen To: AmosList Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:59:02 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] How to get diskinfo??? Status: O X-Status: From: Palle Larsen Hi! I need *HELP* !!! I can't figure how to get diskinfo right, I have searched through all my extensions doc's without any luck, what I need is: dev: size total, used and free in bytes, KB, MB and GB. I have tryed alot, but without getting the right info. any wizard out there, having the *BEST* solution to share with me, and maby others to??? *_#THANX A BILLION IN ADVANCE!!!!!#_* -- Best Wishes Palle (BALLS) Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://p.larsen.homepage.dk/ H-Page: http://p.a.larsen.homepage.dk/ ICQ: 15538608 Nick: SkodSoft Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 6 19:34:43 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15279 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 802 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 1999 23:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 796 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 23:33:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 23:33:35 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0020.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.20]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA22604 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:34:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 01:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.2019808048.3" Subject: [amos-list] Weird bob/screen problem Status: O X-Status: Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.2019808048.3 Content-Type: text/plain Hi ppl Today I discovered a weird thing about using 2 screens with Bobs... Try the attachment and see the results... Seems amos only wants to display bobs on the screen they were first displayed on! Does anyone know how to avoid/fix this problem? Kind regards Arash Tavakoli --BOUNDARY.2019808048.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="Weird.Asc" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Weird.Asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uue begin 644 YAMmsg-w4p2.Asc M4V-R965N($]P96X@,"PS,C`L,C4V+#0L3&]W; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27446 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 14:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27339 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 14:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pine.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 14:15:07 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by pine.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26195 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:16:05 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:14:47 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: RO X-Status: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > Stephen Thornber wrote: > >The problem is my keyboard interface. >it works fine without my ppc060 board, but when I plug in my >ppc060 9 times out of 10 the miggy won't come on when I power >up. (the num lock doesn't light) and I have to switch off >also if the miggy crashes or I reset, the keyboard locks >and I have to power down for 1-2 hours!!! >with the ppc060 out, it works fine and resets okay.. I found this on the net. *** Blizzard PPC boards doesn`t work with standart A1200/A600 PSUs. 4,5 Amps for 5 Volts is needed for A1200 with a Blizzard PPC,but standart A1200 PSU outputs only 3 Amps for 5 Volts. Old A500+ PSUs outputs 4.5 Amps,so you can use one of these.Of course best solution is buying a reinforced PSU (like Goliath,e.t.c) or buying a Power Tower/Micronik Infinity with a strong PSU. *** Unsuffient powersupply can cause various strange problems. Magnus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 10:44:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13441 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25867 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 14:43:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25861 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 14:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 14:43:56 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA4413 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: <375BDA73.E947C960@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:42:59 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se wrote: > Unsuffient powersupply can cause various strange problems. Yes, including hard drives + CD Roms. It is suicidal to keep his Amiga out of a tower nowadays: - You get a good power supply easy to replace with a stronger one if needed - Your accelerator board finds fresh air - You can plug easily another hard drive, a CD... - You can add SCSI extensions - Your amiga gets a "pro" touch - Your wife comes back, your son gets his exams, you win at Lotto.. ;) - And many more ! 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Please share your story. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 15:45:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17212 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 19:46:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 17203 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:46:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:46:05 -0000 Received: from [193.237.1.24] (helo=steve1.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10r5Kl-00091D-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:45:24 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:29:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi Magnus >Blizzard PPC boards doesn`t work with standart A1200/A600 PSUs. 4,5 Amps for >5 Volts is needed for A1200 with a Blizzard PPC,but standart A1200 PSU >outputs only 3 Amps for 5 Volts. Old A500+ PSUs outputs 4.5 Amps,so you can >use one of these.Of course best solution is buying a reinforced PSU (like >Goliath,e.t.c) or buying a Power Tower/Micronik Infinity with a strong PSU. But my miggy's in a Tower with a 200Watt PSU...!! :) Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | Current Imagine/LW/C4D/T3D Projects SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | Aftermath [##........] 20% Complete A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 15:45:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03121 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16377 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 19:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16372 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:46:09 -0000 Received: from [193.237.1.24] (helo=steve1.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10r5Kt-00091D-0A for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:45:32 +0000 From: Stephen Thornber To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:31:24 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <375BDA73.E947C960@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Stephen Thornber Hi floquet >Yes, including hard drives + CD Roms. >It is suicidal to keep his Amiga out of a tower nowadays: >- You get a good power supply easy to replace with a stronger one if >needed >- Your accelerator board finds fresh air >- You can plug easily another hard drive, a CD... >- You can add SCSI extensions >- Your amiga gets a "pro" touch >- Your wife comes back, your son gets his exams, you win at Lotto.. ;) >- And many more ! >The only bad point is that you loose the PCMCIA connector, but it is >possible to buy an adapter. Nope, my CD-Rom uses the PCMCIA port via a "V" adapter.. and she works fine... :) Regards Steve -- Stephen Thornber | Current Imagine/LW/C4D/T3D Projects SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk | http://www.steve1.demon.co.uk/ | Aftermath [##........] 20% Complete A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets. - The Brigader, from Dr Who ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? http://www.onelist.com More than 5,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 15:59:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28133 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13448 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 19:58:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13440 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:58:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:58:48 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0043.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.43]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA20184 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:59:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:58:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Question!! Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli >> The only bad point is that you loose the PCMCIA connector, but it is >> possible to buy an adapter. > > Nope, my CD-Rom uses the PCMCIA port via a "V" adapter.. > and she works fine... :) My RBM TowerhawkII doesn't even need an adaptor:) (tho it IS unusually big:) What we could really use would be an easy to open mac-ish tower... but that'd probably cost too much anyway... Regards Arash T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 165,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 15:54:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25690 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10651 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 19:53:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10642 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crux.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.59) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:53:49 -0000 Received: from rm2-860.tiscalinet.it (root@rm2-860.tiscalinet.it [212.123.85.98]) by crux.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20748 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:54:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: Privato Date: 7 Jun 99 21:46:09 +0100 Message-Id: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] Weird bob/screen problem Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Hi Arash! > Today I discovered a weird thing about using 2 screens with Bobs... Try the > attachment and see the results... I know, I saw it before... > Seems amos only wants to display bobs on the screen they were first displayed > on! No, it's only that it doesn't let you display the same bob on two screens: as you didn't call Bob Off, the bob is still on the first screen, and for some strange reason it doesn't want to eliminate it for you, thus not displaying it on the new screen. > Does anyone know how to avoid/fix this problem? The only way I could come up with is to put a Bob Off 1 : Wait Vbl at the end of the loop: so it works, although it slows down everything a little ;-( Regards, Paolo -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys." Paolo Rinaldi amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of over 165,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 7 16:07:49 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00344 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26460 invoked by alias); 7 Jun 1999 20:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26449 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 20:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO praseodumium.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.82) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 20:07:19 -0000 Received: from host5-171-230-125.btinternet.com ([195.171.230.125] helo=btinternet.com) by praseodumium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10r5c7-0006vk-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:03:19 +0100 From: Neil Ives To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:05:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Bomberman Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello Andrew I just downloaded the BM demo via your site. It's VERY impressive, well done and good luck with it. It ran very quickly on my 40/40, I didn't have time to read the loading message! Are the icons in Magic Workbench colours? I dont use that colour scheme so they look a bit odd. --------------- NEIL IVES [HomeMade Software] MALVERN UK --------------- Amiga owners know the difference ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you entered ONElist's "Grow to Give" program? http://www.onelist.com Deadline is June 19. Join now to win $5000 for your charity of choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 9 07:25:05 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20407 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5994 invoked by alias); 9 Jun 1999 11:25:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 5967 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1999 11:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 11:25:13 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA13481 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:24:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-29.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.29]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA20782 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:24:55 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:59:42 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Found the problem Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler I said before that one of my programs was having trouble with the system sound blaring all the time..... well, I found the problem! (I think) I noticed it in another program too, and found it was related to whenever the "Text" command was used. In the end it turned out to be some sort of clash with a Workbench program called "CacheFont" which I run! Now that I've removed that program AMOS doesn't seem to cause any more trouble. Bizarre, huh ^_- -- Leto WWW - http://lyle.cjb.net -- Lyle Comic Site - http://letostarfish.cjb.net -- Leto's StarFish Central - http://blazingiris.cjb.net -- Blazing Iris AmiSoftware ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.onelist.com Deadline is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 9 07:36:58 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11429 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19907 invoked by alias); 9 Jun 1999 11:37:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 19892 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1999 11:37:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 11:37:12 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA14551 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:36:52 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-29.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.29]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA24464 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:36:50 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: Neil Ives Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 21:35:42 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Bomberman Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler You wrote: >Are the icons in Magic Workbench colours? I dont use that colour >scheme so they look a bit odd. I suggest a little program called *MWB_2_NI* It does wonders for MWB icons for NewIcon users. Also, can I make a point for people doing programs / games in AMOS: DON'T make people need to put assign in their start-up sequences, etc. This is $%^*! annoying. It is quite simple to do it through AMOS (well, Pro at least). Thank you ;) -- Leto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jun 10 15:07:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18567 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22667 invoked by alias); 10 Jun 1999 19:06:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22597 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 19:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 19:06:41 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-090.enterprise.net [194.72.196.90]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15781 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:06:55 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:05:57 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] TCP to and fro... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I know that the GUI ext's TCP commands allow downloading of the net, but does it allow to send and recieve TCP packets from say, another machine? (AKA internet gaming). I want to be able to write a game that has net play. (yeah!). PS. Anyone got any tips? It didn't work very well when I tried writing nul modem version ;( What kind of protocall should I develope? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Chine produces and consumes more fresh pork than any other country. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jun 10 15:26:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15792 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30588 invoked by alias); 10 Jun 1999 19:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 30582 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 19:25:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 19:25:56 -0000 Received: from a-clarke.demon.co.uk ([212.229.51.157]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10sAT0-000OhS-0K for amos-list@onelist.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:26:22 +0000 From: Ashley Clarke To: All Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:17:45 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Starving Artist here. Status: O X-Status: From: Ashley Clarke I ART B4 breakfast M8's. -- Ashley Clarke B.A. Hons. Interactive Arts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Thu Jun 10 22:44:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA20869 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31616 invoked by alias); 11 Jun 1999 02:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 31610 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1999 02:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 1999 02:45:08 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-03-113.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.113]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA20810 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] TCP to and fro... Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 10-Jun-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I know that the GUI ext's TCP commands allow downloading of the net, but >does it allow to send and recieve TCP packets from say, another machine? >(AKA internet gaming). Yes. GUI TCP commands allow for any type of tcp connection. You can open any port you like, following the TCP standards. Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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BARGIN software for sale !!! Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Hi Everybody, A small local shop recently moved its last few Amiga items into storage but I've bought the last few copies of each of the products they were selling. I'm offering this at the same price I bought them for and no profit is being made, all this stuff is *NEW* and has never been used before it is *NOT* second hand. If your interested email me in advance to reserve your software as this is likely to go fast. Please add Ł1 for p&p to all prices. Outside Europe please add Ł2.50 for p&p Genetic Species CD - *Ł10.00* (Normally Ł25-Ł27) Amos PD 2 CD - *Ł11.00* (Normally Ł19.99) ***** *Amos list special* - Due to the fact that this is the amos list I will sell the Amos PD cd for *Ł9.50* + *Ł1.00* p&p if you quote the code AMOS322 when reserving your order of this Amos PD 2 CD. Normal price inc. p&p is *Ł12.00*. ***** Geek Gadgets 1 CD - *Ł8.50* Geek Gadgets 2 CD - *Ł8.50* (Normally Ł12.99) Blade (Disk) - *Ł8.50* (Normally 12.99) Blitz Basic V2.1 (Disk) - *Ł11.00* (Normally Ł19.99) Deluxe Paint 5 - *Ł9.00* Flyin' High - *Ł8.00* (Normally Ł14.99) HiSoft Net and Web (Disk) - *Ł11.00* Wordworth 7 CD - *Ł16.00* TurboPrint 7 (Disk) - *Ł32.00* (Normally Ł39.99) HiSoft Termite TCP - *Ł7.00* Testament - *Ł10.00* (Normally Ł14.99) To reserve your software email me personally at : *software@aio.co.uk* Other software maybe available so if your looking for something and want the BEST price also contact us to see if we can get it in stock. Other details you want send to the above address. Normal prices taken from prices stated by Epic Marketing, Wizard and Fore Matt Home Computing. 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Join now to win $5000 for your charity of choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 11 19:14:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA03783 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24977 invoked by alias); 11 Jun 1999 23:13:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24968 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1999 23:13:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 1999 23:13:43 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.92] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AAF42A20124; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:17:24 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [amos-list] Amos Logo Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by osf1.gmu.edu id TAA03783 Status: O X-Status: ş&ü(kŠÄžÁŞÝý©˘Żí…çëyďçzßĂB ­ííííííííííííííííííííííííííííííííííííËB ×‹× ÎNNB Č Č ­ííííííííííííË‹KKKKKKKKKKB × Ëě Ë쎋ŽŽB Č Č ČŽ­Č ‹K_B)-íííËËě Č -íííííÉĂB ČB Č×××××××××××××××××—×Ë-ííííËB Č‹ ŽŽ ŽźB ×××××××××××××-ííííííέííííέííííííííííííÉËKKKKKKKKKIČB-ííííÉČB‹ËŰY[X™\śËžŰŰKŰŰKĐ[[ÜŃXÝÜžKŮś›Űť š[-íííííííííííÉĂBBžHÚš\ČŮ]Ř\™BB–ČY\ČŮŰČŰÚÜČ[Y\ÜŮY\ Ř]™HHY\ÜŘYŮH\ČH^[™B›ŘY][ťČH^Y]ÜZŮHŃQÜÚÝČšXHÜ\ČCBB‘™Y[ś™YHČ™[[Ý™YH[[ÜŃXÝÜžHT“[™™\XŮH]Ú]Bž[Ý\ÝŰT“ÜÚ]]™\ÝZ]Ë\ŮH]Č]H[Ý\ŘÜČÜBťÚ]]™\‹™[Y[X™\ČÜ™Y]Úš\ČŮ]Ř\™›ÜHŮŰËBB•ŰŮH\CB‹KHBÚš\ČŮ]Ř\™[XZ[Úš\ĐZ[ËŰËťZĂBŠš‹ËÝÝÝËZ[ËŰËťZĘŰ™H Í  MÎ Č ŤŤLMCB‘Y]ÜŮ[ZYŘH[™›Ü›X][ŰŰ›[™H[Z[™]ŘÜËÓXYÜËĐRSŐŹĎË›CB’›Ú[•TŐ PSZQĐHXZ[[™Č\ÝÝݲۙ[\Ý ŰŰKÜÝXśŘÜšX™KŮÚKÚť\Ý X[ZYŘCB˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ˢ‰"ž h{ZťÜ¨şĽ(®W˙†Űi˙˙đĂčťéb˛ßܢcŤX¬¶¬˘÷«×®˙ÓMţf˘•Ę&šéâ¶'¬~ş&Âś†Ú†Š,{˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙óź~'"jP 9%–[řm¶ź˙ţg¦męě˙(›÷(›đ&˘ÁZrÚ+Ë÷ë˘{˙†ŮĄ From nobody Fri Jun 11 19:38:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA19992 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17911 invoked by alias); 11 Jun 1999 23:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 17422 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1999 23:36:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 1999 23:36:51 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.92] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A05F2DC0124; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:40:31 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:37:57 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00ac01beafe8$bd245160$3bb8fed0@p4y1w4> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] amos.com registration? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Drew, On 06-Jun-99, you wrote: > PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS FROM YOUR LISTING ARE YOU PERSONALLY TALKING TO ME SHOUT BOY!? I don't own the amos mailing list so why hastle me? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 12 11:52:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19200 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26010 invoked by alias); 12 Jun 1999 15:37:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25959 invoked from network); 12 Jun 1999 15:37:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 1999 15:37:41 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.208] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A1825660122; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 15:41:06 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:30:04 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Calling Gareth Griffiths Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Hey Gareth, I just saw the blitz list (grr!) on the latest AF CD and saw you are making a GTA clone. I to was planning to do something similar a while back and my letter featured in the last issue of CU Amiga about doing this. I had someone doing the code in amos but unfortunally I've given up on this project. Instead I contacted Take 2 and the other companies involved and they said they migh be interested if a company like clickBOOM do was prepared to convert it. I past this information onto clickBOOM. They said they would keep me informed but that was about 4-5 months ago, oh well, maybe they'll release the 'real' thing one day. If you interested in seeing what was our basic effort email me privately. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 14 07:08:40 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25668 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18469 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 1999 11:08:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18464 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 11:08:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.rothervalley.ac.uk) (194.81.77.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 11:08:23 -0000 Received: by EMAIL_NTEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: <974ACDC76E0BD211B54B00805F65087AB5043C@EMAIL_NTEX1> From: S9225796 To: "'amos-list@onelist.com'" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:06:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Little survey Status: RO X-Status: From: S9225796 > -----Original Message----- > From: Leto Kauler [SMTP:letok@netspace.net.au] > Sent: 14 June 1999 16:53 > To: AMOS List > Subject: [amos-list] Little survey > > From: Leto Kauler > > If anyone has the time, would they mind filling out this little > survey please? It might be best, also, to reply to /my/ address. > > - How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? > Point and click adventures are great - especially if you use a program called "Visions" to write them :) > - Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? > Speech is not essential, however it does add a bit of quality into the game > - Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? > Background music is always essential, especially if you wish for the game to do well. > - Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or > should be included just because they're cool? > Finish the game and then add the cool bits :) > - Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? > It depends on the game itself. Neither are better then one another. > Thanks for your time, > -- Leto ^_^ letok@geocities.com > Best regards, Matt Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 165,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 14 07:17:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14011 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24141 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 1999 11:16:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 24117 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 11:16:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.eisa.net.au) (203.166.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 11:16:45 -0000 Received: from mine (ppph2-71.eisa.net.au [203.166.250.71]) by mail.eisa.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA20341 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:16:24 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990614211930.0080fdc0@vision.net.au> X-Sender: ender@vision.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:19:30 +1000 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "J. Brown (Ender/Amigo)" In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Little survey Status: O X-Status: From: "J. Brown (Ender/Amigo)" >If anyone has the time, would they mind filling out this little >survey please? It might be best, also, to reply to /my/ address. > >- How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? Love 'em, expecially if they have cute cartoon graphics *grin*. >- Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? Personally I acually hate speech in most games, ditto with movie sequences. But it did work in some of the kings quest games.. >- Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? Background music definatly.. I've yet to find a graphic adventure that acually makes good use of non-repeative sfx. >- Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or > should be included just because they're cool? Depends on the game. >- Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? Humourous, but it's a matter of preference.. Not totally humorous to the point of being stupid, however.. There still has to be a reasonably serious plot line. >Thanks for your time, The bills in the mail, Leto :) James Brown == Ender/Amigo == Ender@vision.net.au Sys Admin/Programmer: ADM Development (Http://www.admdev.com) Sys Admin/Webmaster: ERA Online (Http://www.animorphs.org.au) Coder of: EasyCuts, QuakeMovie, CoopWorld, Castle Forte, CBATNAM Member of the Litestep Developent team <> Taz-Mania, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 14 07:03:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19406 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5788 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 1999 11:03:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5766 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 11:03:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 11:03:22 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id VAA02969 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:03:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-14.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.14]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id VAA10337 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:03:04 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:52:56 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Little survey Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler If anyone has the time, would they mind filling out this little survey please? It might be best, also, to reply to /my/ address. - How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? - Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? - Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? - Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or should be included just because they're cool? - Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? Thanks for your time, -- Leto ^_^ letok@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 14 10:57:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12945 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28978 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 1999 14:57:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28972 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 14:57:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.196) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 14:57:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2934 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 1999 14:57:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990614145718.2933.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.184 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:57:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.184] From: patrick Wesseling To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:57:18 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: patrick Wesseling At Home Electronics World show in Keulen from 12 t/m 14 November they will show the next generation Amiga's! If things are correct the first one will be some what like the Amiga 500. I really hope Amos will be ported to the next generation. The current Amos will still run on it but through some sort of emulation. A next generation of Amiga's without Amos would not be the same! This will be the year we all hoped for. Some KICK_ASS computers, not the shit they like to call Windows (I kicked my pc with Windows so many time, it's a wonder it still runs) Patrick (Amigafan forever) Wesseling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 14 15:24:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19317 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15592 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 1999 19:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15531 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 19:25:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lyra.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 19:25:20 -0000 Received: from rm1-789.tiscalinet.it (root@rm1-789.tiscalinet.it [212.123.80.155]) by lyra.tiscalinet.it (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27207 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:23:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Organization: Privato Date: 14 Jun 99 19:31:46 +0200 Message-Id: To: amos-list@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#000004CA] Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Little survey Status: O X-Status: From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Hi Leto! > - How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? They're really cool: they are the best types of game, together with Napalm, of course ;-) > - Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? Well, if it is good it fits well, but you should also write on screen what is said (I'm getting mad trying to understand what Myst says ;-() > - Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? Absolutely background music is a must have... > - Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or > should be included just because they're cool? Well it should be neither impossible nor too stupid to solve > - Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? If they're well made there's little difference, though if you don't know what to do in a humourous one you can at least have a good laugh ;-) Regards, Paolo -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 1 GB, CD 24x "It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys." 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It is limited for now so go to the below URL and fill out the form. http://www.Freecall-UK.com But please, put my name (Alastair Murray) in the reffered to box otherwise I won't get my own connection. Thanks, -Murray Alastair Murray ICQ: 15173722 malcolm.murray@virgin.net (AMIGA Stuff) alastair.murray@ukgateway.net (PC Stuff) Homepage ----------> http://surf.to/Murrays-Home Muzzasoft ---------> http://welcome.to/muzzasoft Monolith Designs --> http://surf.to/monolith Backbone Support --> http://welcome.to/backbone ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 03:25:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20967 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 03:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1933 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 07:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1911 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 07:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 07:25:22 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA1467 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:12 +0100 Message-ID: <3765FF43.41A185D2@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:22:43 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <19990614145718.2933.qmail@hotmail.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > From: patrick Wesseling > > At Home Electronics World show in Keulen from 12 t/m 14 November they will > show the next generation Amiga's! Where does this info come from ? I've never heard about that. Maybe just a huge PC running the new OS will be presented. Maybe... Be careful with rumours. Especially when they say what we want to hear. -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 10:44:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10626 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1109 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 14:44:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1083 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 14:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.221) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 14:44:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 70933 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 1999 14:43:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990615144355.70932.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.158.175.214 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:43:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.158.175.214] From: patrick Wesseling To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:43:54 PDT Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: patrick Wesseling All you people must have heard that new Amiga's are coming! This info that I previous announced is from a good source. The new OS will be running on a excisting kernel called "Neutrino" (Don't know if I spelled it wright?). The Amiga part will be build on that. The first machines will have OS 4 wich later can be upgraded to OS 5. I still haven't heard what processor it will contain. Some say PowerPC but i think (Peter Kittel likes this processor) a processor from Hewlet Packet (The HP-A?). The "graphics card" will be better then the one in the Sega Dreamcast. 24 gigabyte per second? There must be people that know a bit more about this. Let me know! Patrick Wesseling >From: "floquet" >Reply-To: amos-list@onelist.com >To: amos-list@onelist.com >Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:22:43 +0200 > >From: "floquet" > > > From: patrick Wesseling > > > > At Home Electronics World show in Keulen from 12 t/m 14 November they >will > > show the next generation Amiga's! > >Where does this info come from ? I've never heard about that. Maybe just >a huge PC running the new OS will be presented. Maybe... >Be careful with rumours. Especially when they say what we want to hear. > >-- > +____________ +____ > /____ ____/\ / / > \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA > /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES > \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! > >http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! >http://www.onelist.com >Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 12:15:44 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28211 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4327 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 16:16:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4239 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 16:16:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 16:16:07 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17040 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03441 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:15:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <19990615144355.70932.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Folks, I don't know what 'reliable sources' you've all been reading, but check out this link http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1999/990509-cucug.html for word straight from the horses mouth, it's an interview with Amiga's Vice President of Engineering, talks alot about what the new OS will be like, of course even coming from the horses mouth I'd still take all of this with a grain of salt, I'm excited about the new OS, but forgive my cynicism if I say we've heard alot of this talk before. At any rate at least this guy is actually working in a lab, developing the new amiga, instead of just talking about what it will be like. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA BTW, the os that was mentioned, the one Amiga OS 4 will run on top of is the QNX os, I've heard really good things about it from Unix junkie friends of mine, which is a good sign, as a rule those guys usaully hate anything even remotely single-user-ish. QNX like Unix has been compiled for a host of processors so the AMiga OS will probly be as well. This is very good news, as the PowerPC is dead, the alpha going and the Intel x86 ought to have expired years ago, like right along with it's peer the Motorola 68k line, where it not for Microsoft... If I can sneak another personal note in here, I find it astonshing that the i86 line is still around competing with, and actually beating, the 68k's successor, the PowerPC... Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 170,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 14:37:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15613 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31146 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 18:37:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 30872 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 18:36:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 18:36:49 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0041.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.41]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA24242 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:37:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:35:57 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 15-Jun-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote: (...) as the PowerPC is dead, (...) Who said PPC is dead?:) Even Nintendo just signed a billiondollar deal to have PPC in it's next generation console (DOlphin) I think Alpha is the dead one:) ppl choose muli-processor x86 setups instead of alphas nowadays... (more powerful and cheaper it seems) Oh and on the note of the original message, they'll be showing the development system then not the finished consumer setup:) Kind Regards, Arash ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 16:32:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15670 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19114 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 20:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18998 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 20:32:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 20:32:12 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17307 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04797 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:32:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" one question about the ppc, whose developing it?? Not IBM, not Motorola, certainly not Apple... Anyway, I don't want to get the list involved in this kind of banter, my only real point is that portablility will be key to any new OS and the Amiga will happily have that, we should stop worrying about what kind and clock speed processor the thing will run on and start asking about what software it will run. Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 15 17:03:34 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11461 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19762 invoked by alias); 15 Jun 1999 21:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 19667 invoked from network); 15 Jun 1999 21:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 1999 21:03:27 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0037.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.37]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA00486 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:03:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:00:12 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] New Amiga's Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 15-Jun-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote: > one question about the ppc, whose developing it?? > > Not IBM, not Motorola, certainly not Apple... IBM *_and*_ Motorola :) They're resolving the differences in architecture of IBM's standard and Motorola's AltiVec instruction set with their "Book E" project. > Anyway, I don't want to get the list involved in > this kind of banter, my only real point is that portablility will be key > to any new OS and the Amiga will happily have that, we should stop > worrying about what kind and clock speed processor the thing will run on > and start asking about what software it will run. I agree... I don't really care what processors are chosen as long as the NG miggy's do the job and do it better than wintel platforms:) (which should be an easy task:) Viva Amiga :) Kind Regards, Arash Tavakoli ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your voice heard! http://www.onelist.com Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 06:56:09 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA04639 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24162 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 10:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24144 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 10:55:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorpion.netspace.net.au) (203.10.110.106) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 10:55:54 -0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by scorpion.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id UAA23683 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:56:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from netspace.net.au (letok@dialup-m1-16.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.253.16]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1/NS) with SMTP id UAA04418 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:56:00 +1000 (EST) From: Leto Kauler To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:53:00 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Comic strip Status: O X-Status: From: Leto Kauler A couple of months ago I created a comic strip character named "BoingMan" which was supposed to be for a European Amiga magazine. It was probably my fault, but this didn't eventuate. To my knowledge, it is the only Amiga-specific comic about. But anyway... I've only drawn one strip and some sketches but if people are interested I was wondering if it would be worth putting up a web-page for what has been done so far. If anyone knows of any Amiga mags wanting a strip then they should get in touch with me ;) -- Leto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "PAFind," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 13:39:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05792 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16414 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 17:39:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16395 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 17:39:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 17:39:41 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-47-6.btinternet.com [195.99.47.6]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27613 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:39:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000001beb81f$0cc0a000$062f63c3@default> From: "Eric" To: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:38:27 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [amos-list] FreecCall Status: O X-Status: From: "Eric" Hi Everyone, I've also joined this FreeCall but I didn't know that before you get your new connection someone had to put your name in the referred box when they joined. Please, Please, Please could someone join up at http://www.freecall-UK.com and put my name (Eric Molyneux) in the referred box. Thanks Eric Molyneux. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Who is the most visited e-mail list community Web Service? http://www.onelist.com ONElist.com - where more than 20 million e-mails are exchanged each day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 09:58:28 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19150 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20448 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 13:58:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20405 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 13:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 13:58:19 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA4E10 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:07:20 +0100 Message-ID: <3767ACE2.36FD273E@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:55:46 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Comic strip Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > A couple of months ago I created a comic strip character named > "BoingMan" which was supposed to be for a European Amiga magazine. > It was probably my fault, but this didn't eventuate. > If anyone knows of any Amiga mags wanting a strip then they should > get in touch with me ;) I -alas- don't know any mag interested yet, but I'd be blag to see that on the web ! I'll ask for the (coming) amiga-news mag, scheduled for september. Your strip will have to be translated into french, I can do it, if they accept your work. Regards -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last chance to earn $5000 for your charity of choice! http://www.onelist.com Deadline for "GROW TO GIVE" is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 13:45:04 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03658 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9080 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 17:45:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9066 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 17:45:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web903.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.78) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 17:45:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990616174451.7441.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.137.35] by web903.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:44:51 BST Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:44:51 +0100 (BST) From: Claude Heiland-Allen To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] FreecCall Status: O X-Status: From: Claude Heiland-Allen From: "Eric" > I've also joined this FreeCall > but I didn't know that > before you get your new connection someone had to > put your name in the > referred box when they joined. Please, Please, Yes, its a bit of a con isn't it, this means that 1/5 of the people (maximum) who sign up get a connection, and lists get clogged up with spam :( Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 170,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 13:44:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08529 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2134 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 17:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2122 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 17:45:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.desupernet.net) (204.249.184.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 17:45:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 647 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 17:44:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MUSH) (208.157.103.115) by mail4.desupernet.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 17:44:44 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990616134619.007a4910@redrose.net> X-Sender: mushypd@redrose.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:46:19 -0400 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" In-Reply-To: <000001beb81f$0cc0a000$062f63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] FreecCall Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" At 07:38 PM 6/15/99 +0100, you wrote: >From: "Eric" > >Hi Everyone, > I've also joined this FreeCall but I didn't know that >before you get your new connection someone had to put your name in the >referred box when they joined. Please, Please, Please could someone join up >at http://www.freecall-UK.com and put my name (Eric Molyneux) in the >referred box. > Thanks > sounds like a dumb system if you ask me, hehe. just copy someones details out of the phone book, hehe -- *Mushroom Software* - The largest Amiga Licenseware company in the Eastern US carrying exclusively the F1 Software & 5D Titles from the UK. We also carry titles from software author's such as Paul Burkey. See our webpage for more info!! Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk FTP: ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/ Contact: Andy Kellett ICQ #9701389 AOL IM - FishGuy876 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 170,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 16 18:15:53 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26113 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22540 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 1999 22:16:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22401 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 22:16:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 22:16:24 -0000 Received: from a-clarke.demon.co.uk ([212.229.51.157]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10uNyD-000IKn-0C for amos-list@onelist.com; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:15:45 +0000 From: Ashley Clarke To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:09:15 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <929430120.30009@onelist.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Little Survey. Status: O X-Status: From: Ashley Clarke > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:52:56 +0500 > From: Leto Kauler >Subject: Little survey >If anyone has the time, would they mind filling out this little >survey please? It might be best, also, to reply to /my/ address. Just worked another 12 Hour day, so what's ten minutes? I like survey questions, which in answering can help yourself. This information would be helpfull for others too! >- How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? It seems to be the most effective form of Biofeedback with current mainstream technology. Don't you always test the Vocabulary Parser for swear words on Text Adventures? >- Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? English, for me please. But not escensial. They saw us. >- Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? Both. The Amigas' got 4 Channels to play with, so why not? >- Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or > should be included just because they're cool? A good clue would be to simply look at the large Bill Boards around Town. See how products "stand out" against the "normal" hustle and bustle. >- Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? Either. It's up to the individual participating in the experience of the "Adventure", whether they find it's content humourous or serious. You might find that one Mans Food is another Mans Poison! >Thanks for your time, > -- Leto ^_^ letok@geocities.com You can, of course, make powerfull suggestions to the participants of the "Adventure", which could totally overwhelm their desires. Target an Audience maybe? -- Ashley Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 18 19:02:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16295 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3954 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 1999 23:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 30571 invoked from network); 18 Jun 1999 22:58:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bianca.scs.com.br) (200.231.154.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 22:58:33 -0000 Received: from tteste (ra1-9.scs.com.br.154.231.200.in-addr.arpa [200.231.154.39]) by bianca.scs.com.br (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id TAA28600 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:54:41 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <199906182254.TAA28600@bianca.scs.com.br> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:56:36 +0000 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [amos-list] Music Behind Samples... Status: O X-Status: From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br Hello ALL as said... > This must be an old old question, but does anybody know how to make > samples play over a mod, like just cancel the one channel instead of > pausing the whole song? Isn't this done automatically? (amos1.3) Now , anyone knows a way to play a 4 channel song and play sfx together with it? Like mixing?Is it possible? See ya! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your voice heard! http://www.onelist.com Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 18 17:37:48 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27131 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27950 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 1999 21:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27929 invoked from network); 18 Jun 1999 21:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-relay.power.net.uk) (195.60.31.17) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 21:37:18 -0000 Received: from eaborn.powernet.co.uk (root@bmip140.powernet.co.uk [195.60.5.140]) by mail-relay.power.net.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA06276 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:33:24 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Steve Eaborn To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:36:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] xor bobs Status: O X-Status: From: Steve Eaborn >> I know how to do with plot, draw, text.. but I would like to paste >> coloured things like bobs. >> >> I have *MANY* objects to animate, but just a few at one time: One >> invader, the player's ship, some bombs, lasers and bonuses. >> The next invader will be moved at the next VBL, well you maybe know how >> space invaders move ! >> >> If anyone could help me ? > > If you're animating stuff on a clear background, why not just draw a > black rectangle over the old image, erasing it before you paste the new > one down? > You need to use the 'Set Bob' command to define the way your bobs are drawn on screen. You can select whether or not to replace the background with a single colour, define a mask (blitter mode) for drawing the bob, or even set which bitplanes to draw the bob in. syntax is... Set Bob bobno,background,planes,mask you must set bob before you actually draw the bob on screen. cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got an opinion? http://www.onelist.com Make it count! Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 18 19:14:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA26529 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26479 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 1999 23:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 26431 invoked from network); 18 Jun 1999 23:15:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 23:15:18 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.247] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A576E66014A; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:17:26 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:12:24 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001beb6cf$d3ec0b20$2a90bc3e@oemcomputer> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] UK Freecall Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Alastair, On 14-Jun-99, you wrote: > Just in case anyone hasn`t already seen this: > But please, put my name (Alastair Murray) in the reffered to box otherwise I > won't get my own connection. Sorry to break it to you but everyone has basically decided it is a scam. I've has well over 4 people put my name in an still nothing, I've wrote about this on the JUST-AMiGA mailing list and it seems noone has an account.... go figure. Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 19 04:42:02 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17990 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13780 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 1999 08:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 13773 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 08:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 08:41:46 -0000 Received: from modem-3.nitrogen.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.3.3] helo=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk ident=rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10vGhB-0007fP-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:41:51 +0100 From: Lee Marchment To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:41:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] UK Freecall Status: O X-Status: From: Lee Marchment Hi on 19-Jun-99, Chris wrote about: Re: [amos-list] UK Freecall so I decided to write back! > From: Chris Seward > > Alastair, > > On 14-Jun-99, you wrote: > >> Just in case anyone hasn`t already seen this: >> But please, put my name (Alastair Murray) in the reffered to box > otherwise I >> won't get my own connection. > > Sorry to break it to you but everyone has basically decided > it is a scam. I've has well over 4 people put my name in an > still nothing, I've wrote about this on the JUST-AMiGA mailing > list and it seems noone has an account.... go figure. Yeah I can back that up, i've had about 4-5 people mut my name in the box and that was ages ago and i haven't had a reply yet. and that goes for loads of other people I know! shame like! 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Status: O X-Status: From: Neil Ives Hello Scooter On 18-Jun-99, you wrote: > Since I don't have one, (and don't know where to get one for free) I am > going to write a program to put Sound/Music to Anim files. > Once set up it will play sounds at user specified frames in an anim. Great idea. I don't know the answer though I'm afraid, sorry. -- --------------- NEIL IVES [HomeMade Software] MALVERN UK --------------- Amiga owners do it before the PC has finished booting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got an opinion? http://www.onelist.com Make it count! Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 19 11:20:00 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28581 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26328 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 1999 15:19:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26253 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 15:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 15:19:43 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.32] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A78E13E9012A; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:22:06 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Little survey Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Leto, On 14-Jun-99, you wrote: > - How do you feel about point and click graphic adventures? They are the best games ever BTW :) I've played most of them that appeared on the Amiga from the likes of the 'first' called Loom to anything and everything. Basically GREAT :) > > - Do you think speech is an important feature? Full or partial? Well nowadays, yes, very important, it adds to the feel, makes it look more like todays games and is a nice gimic that sells. > > - Is background music preferable to sounds? Vise versa? Or both? Music is a best choice but with some sounds, the music needs to be very atmospheric and lots of it for different locations, ie, when you enter the next location/screen the music really should change to suit it. Lots of music or people get bored. > > - Are there any features which help a g.adventure stand out, or > should be included just because they're cool? Graphics, need to be very cartoony (sp?) and colourful. They need to have alot of detail, lots of it. > > - Are g.adventures better humourous or more serious? No humourous all the time, just look at the likes of the humour in Monkey Island series, very funny. Also Leisure Suit Larry collection, smutty humour was good, depends on what the game is about really. If someone was murdered and your finding out about a murder then humourous comments won't go dowm to well but.. A colourful game with bouncy but atmospheric music with humour sounds good to me. You really should find someone funny though and spend along time working on the humour and test it on people lots before the game is released. You don't want corney comments and silly puns that aren't funny at all and the game is advertised as the funniest game of the year, etc. BTW, does this mean your making an c&p adventure game? can I take a wee look :)? Hope it was some help! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? http://www.onelist.com More than 5,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 19 11:20:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20477 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26419 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 1999 15:19:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 26335 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 15:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 15:19:45 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.32] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A79113E9012A; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:22:09 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:34:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Comic strip Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Leto, On 16-Jun-99, you wrote: > If anyone knows of any Amiga mags wanting a strip then they should > get in touch with me ;) If you want a webpage for it that could be updated weekly/monthly or whenever you do a new comic strip i'll quit happily host it at something like. www.boingman.aio.co.uk Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 19 11:35:17 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09855 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10461 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 1999 15:35:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 10449 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 15:35:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 15:35:38 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.32] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB4A9280136; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:38:02 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: amos-list@onelist.com, just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:35:43 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] FREECALL UK, not a scam? Status: O X-Status: From: Chris Seward Dear All, OK, i know i've said it was a scam but i've remailed the person who is running this Freecall UK and I think you'll be nicely supprised with this reply. --- Hi Chris We are literally days away from start. Our tracking software is being tested at the moment.Our lines are all open and live and ready to start I am just waiting for my tech team to say go. I am hoping for Monday/Tuesday . Richard --- Enjoy :) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 19 12:56:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07046 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24253 invoked by alias); 19 Jun 1999 16:55:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24248 invoked from network); 19 Jun 1999 16:55:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 1999 16:55:44 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-017.enterprise.net [194.72.197.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04093 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:56:06 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:55:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] AGA palette with Intuition extention. Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Is there any way of either: Using an AGA palette with the intuition extention or getting the GUI extention to copy an amos screen onto an int. screen like ol' intext. can? Also, is there any way of hiding the mouse pointer on an int ext/gui ext screen? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hot water is heavier than cold. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 12:48:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21624 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2146 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 16:48:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 2138 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 16:48:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 16:48:22 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04506 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:48:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA29456 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:48:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:48:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amcaf.lha??? Sam Raw??? Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Been working on my little project, Two snags, 1) Visited amos factory (VERY VERY nice, hats off to you guys for a e that is at once simple and buetiful, love the no-frames/no java line!) Problem, the copy of amcaf.lha on the site won't unzip, I've downloaded it twice, tried both amiha lha v1.38 and MacLha2.21 and no luck. The files come out grossly corrupted, anybody else have this problem? 2) Sam Raw ain't doing it... even copying the text str8 out of the manual Sam Raw just plays garbage. I know I am loading the samples right because loading one then saving it to ram: then reloading in a MOD prog. works. I have: reserve as work 10,120000 bload "ram:sound",start(10) : rem sample is <120,000 bytes big Sam Raw 15,start(10),length(10),8000 nothing, just looping noise. well any ideas?? I want to use Sam Raw so i can put the samples in Fast Ram, leaving plenty of Chip free for animations... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last chance to earn $5000 for your charity of choice! http://www.onelist.com Deadline for "GROW TO GIVE" is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 14:42:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08760 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12733 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 18:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12727 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 18:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero2.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.53) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 18:42:32 -0000 Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero2.cybercity.dk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01857 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:37:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from neupart@email.dk) Received: from cis3849 (msx-vib-17-11.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.30.75]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16974 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:37:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from neupart@email.dk) Message-ID: <000301bebb4b$3e606a80$4b1ef2d4@cis3849> From: "Mogens Neupart" To: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:32:21 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Help needed: AMOS Pro synthetic speech Status: O X-Status: From: "Mogens Neupart" Hi there! I'm reviving my Amiga 600HD with AMOS Professional and would like to know how (if possible) I use phonetic spelling as in AmigaBASIC or WB's Say program. The subject is mentioned on p. 11.02.01 in the manual under the SAY command: "..., or using phonetic spellings." Does this mean I have to spell words differently or can I use phonetics? Thank you in advance for any help you may provide. Regards Mo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last chance to earn $5000 for your charity of choice! http://www.onelist.com Deadline for "GROW TO GIVE" is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 14:56:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02690 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28651 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 18:55:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28599 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 18:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 18:55:43 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20452 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23218 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Amcaf.lha??? Sam Raw??? Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Thank you!Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!Thank you! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 14:57:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08981 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30087 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 18:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 30072 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 18:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 18:57:22 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20675 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:57:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23547 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:57:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:57:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Amcaf.lha??? Sam Raw??? Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" as for amcaf, I think the file is fine, jsut having trouble getting this danged mac to ftp it right, it unarc's fine on my local area Unix box so... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 14:32:36 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29775 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29477 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 18:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 29466 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 18:32:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 18:32:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-037.enterprise.net [194.72.196.157]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23009 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:32:28 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:31:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Amcaf.lha??? Sam Raw??? Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > 2) Sam Raw ain't doing it... > even copying the text str8 out of the manual Sam Raw just plays garbage. > I know I am loading the samples right because loading one then saving it > to ram: then reloading in a MOD prog. works. > I have: > reserve as work 10,120000 > bload "ram:sound",start(10) : rem sample is <120,000 bytes big > Sam Raw 15,start(10),length(10),8000 > > nothing, just looping noise. > well any ideas?? > I want to use Sam Raw so i can put the samples in Fast Ram, leaving plenty > of Chip free for animations... The problem is simple : you *CAN'T *play samples from fast ram, under any circumstances. You *must* have the sound in chip mem or the custom chips can't access it. The only way to get round this is to have all the samples stored in fast ram, and then copy it temperaraly to chip ram to play it. Something like: reserve as work 10,120000 bload "ram:sound",start(10) : rem sample is <120,000 bytes big _SAMPLAY[10,8000,15] Procedure _SAMPLAY[bank,rate,chan] reserve as chip work 1000,length(bank) copy start(bank),start(bank)+length(bank) to start(1000) sam raw chan,start(bank),length(bank),rate End proc there you go, I've just typed it in to YAM so I'm not sure it'll work, but you get the idea ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Annie Hall (1977) remains Woody Allen's highest grossing movie, making a $36 million profit at last count. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last chance to earn $5000 for your charity of choice! http://www.onelist.com Deadline for "GROW TO GIVE" is June 19. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 20 17:31:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17739 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32722 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 1999 21:32:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32705 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 21:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 21:32:06 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-083.enterprise.net [194.72.196.83]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18926 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:31:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Has anyone got the Intuition extention v1.3a Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, A while ago Andrew Church kindly gave me a copy of the full version of Intu extention 1.3b I've only really now got back into using it from the demo version, and its so god damn bloody full of bugs that weren't there before its almost unusable!!! So, has anyone got a copy of *full* version of the intuition extention V1.3a that I could have please? I've sent an email to Andrew, but I suspect he probably doesn't support it any more ;( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Why make good software, when people will buy bad. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "PAFind," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 21 03:30:10 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20990 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31655 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 1999 07:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31648 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 07:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 07:22:35 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA7237 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:31:44 +0100 Message-ID: <376DE798.624583E3@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:19:52 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] xor bobs Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > > I know how to do with plot, draw, text.. but I would like to paste > > coloured things like bobs. > If you're animating stuff on a clear background, why not just draw a > black rectangle over the old image, erasing it before you paste the new one > down? That's a good idea ! In fact the backgrond is just composed of a vertical starfield, but the use of a dual playfield may solve the pb. Thanks a lot ! -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 21 17:59:01 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24339 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12192 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 1999 21:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12090 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-069.enterprise.net [194.72.195.69]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02633 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:58:44 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:57:30 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Some words on Sam Raw.... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> (they did 'Reserve as Chip Work' in there Sam swap example though) >> > Yeah, BTW has anyone ever used the recommended sam swapping > routine, it strikes me as a bit risky because you keep the file open for > so very long, suppose you miggy crashes, then you'd have a disk validation > problem? Anyway, we are in agreement the manual is sketchy... You're thinking of keeping an output file open. With input nothing on the disk is changing so no de-validation happens on a crash. >> Ok, I think you mean 'Audio:' because 'RAW:' simply prints it to a CON >> window. >> > yeah must be, I think I jsut started saying Raw: cause of the sam > raw connection. Nope, you don't want to copy a sample to RAW: 'cos you'll be there all day. (unless you have a gfx card ;) >> Yes, thats a feature of the Audio device. >> > it's one I like to show off to my friends, cause it's just so > cool! Ah, good enough reason. >> No, I'm afraid that is completely untrue: >> >> AMOS does not use the AUIDO: device, if it did then it would be AHI >> compatible and be able to play long soundFX from fast memory or disc. >> > I wasn't so sure it really did, I jsut figured it did something to > that effect, I think AUDIO: has to mounted and all that jazz so it would > be strange to see Amos use it as there's no garuntee a user has it > mounted. Well, it was an idea. >> What AMOS does is simply access the custom chip directly and make it play >> that section of memory. Absolutly NO copying involved. >> >> Thats not because there are two copies in memory, thats because even >> though you say 'Erase 10' or whatever, the actuall sound is still that >> part of memory, just that block is now 'Free' and can be overwritten. >> > hmmm.... I guess that's faster than blipping it out, but man kinda > sketchy don't ya think? I wonder if anybody's ever written a memory > recover program, like recovering deleted files from a disk.. Sure they have: Mod rippers and gfx rippers have been around for ages. >> Try instead of 'erasing' it, using poke to change it all to 0. I think >> you find that the sample would soon stop ;) >> > Well, out of the frying pan and into the fire!! This is crazy! I > will have to write in a routine to hang onto the bank till the sample is > done otherwise, what's the garuntee I won't write over this data with the > next _SAM_RAW procedure? Yep, thats a problem I had with one of my games. I got round it by having 4 different chip buffers for each channel. If you're only playing one sample at a time, it makes no difference though as the sample would be stopped anyway. >> Well, sorry to put you down like that, but it just 'aint true. >> > no no, that's fine, besides knowing how it really works points to > a different and potentially more dangerous problem. It won't be hard to > get around though, so actually I'm better off than I thought, just gotta > make sure my bank's don't over lap. At least I don't need twice the mem > for every sample like I was thinking... Don't forget that even if it needed twice as much, all the rest of the samples would still be in fast. >> Glad to be of service ;) >> > BTW > How did you figure that one out? Trial and error? it makes sense > when you think about it, but I'd never really have thought of it, but then > look at my understanding of how Sam Raw worked, I didn't think it really > read from the bank. Well thanks again, When you program a game with quite a bit of sampled speech, you soon run in to problems keeping it all in chipram ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Just what do you think you are doing Dave? Put down that Windows disk Dave. DAVE! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 21 20:10:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16334 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30903 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 1999 00:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 30629 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 00:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bednorz.get2net.dk) (130.227.3.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 00:16:18 -0000 Received: from -2 (p417-112.ppp.get2net.dk [195.82.220.112]) by bednorz.get2net.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01596 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:09:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199906220009.CAA01596@bednorz.get2net.dk> X-Sender: mx23381@paul.get2net.dk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:07:50 +0200 To: amos-list@onelist.com From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= In-Reply-To: References: <000001bebbdb$4e0a91a0$482f63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Desktop conversion Status: O X-Status: From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= At 18:29 21-06-99 +0000, you wrote: >From: Andrew Crowe > >Hi Everybody, > >> When I opened it up, I found they had cut off the end of the board, and >> with it the mouse port, to get it to fit in the case. > > They did WHAT???? oh dear me. > >The only thing I can think of is use a serial mouse with a serial mouse >driver. Look at Power Computings ads, I think they do that kind of deal. I once saw a program to make the mouse use joy port 2 instead of port 1. I beleave it was on aminet somewhere, but don't remember where! :( But i think it was some example C source code! (Or maybe it was in a book, i'll check my books tomorow and see if i can find it!) /Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 22 03:21:38 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA22750 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3124 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 1999 07:21:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3119 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 07:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 07:21:29 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA4F5A for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <376F38D6.129879BD@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:18:46 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Iff Sound Files... Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > Anybody written a routine to interpret IFF sound files?? I did, for my midi-driven sample player. It handles only 8bit mono samples, but recognizes and uses the IFF frequency chunck and works fine. I'll cut the part of prog doing that job and post it soon. -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 22 17:44:33 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22754 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18164 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 1999 21:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18155 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 21:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.wxs.nl) (195.121.6.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 21:44:28 -0000 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.45.239]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA6A6; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:44:28 +0200 From: * de Jong * To: amos-list@onelist.com CC: Leto Kauler Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:43:44 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Comic strip Status: O X-Status: From: * de Jong * Hello Leto On 16-Jun-99 Leto Kauler wrote: > From: Leto Kauler > > > A couple of months ago I created a comic strip character named > "BoingMan" which was supposed to be for a European Amiga magazine. > It was probably my fault, but this didn't eventuate. Ah, that was why you asked me some while ago if that Dutch magazine had a comic strip :) (I didn't forget it but I didn't had time to reply) > To my knowledge, it is the only Amiga-specific comic about. But > anyway... I've only drawn one strip and some sketches but if > people are interested I was wondering if it would be worth putting > up a web-page for what has been done so far. > > If anyone knows of any Amiga mags wanting a strip then they should > get in touch with me ;) I told one of the writers of the Dutch Amiga magazine (Amiga Scene) about your comic strip (and also added the url for your boingman site), so hopefully you'll hear from him :). -- Mark de Jong - Member of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* ICQ: 16523430 IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #AMOS & #amigaexotic URL: http://members.xoom.com/AmigaFan ( <-- the previously new address 8op.com/amigafan doesn't work anymore since a co-administrator of that company accidently formatted the hd :)) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 22 18:02:24 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21097 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7697 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 1999 22:01:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 7535 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 22:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 22:01:30 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29453 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:01:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28902 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:01:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:01:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amos Quirks Home-page Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Hey everybody, My recent adventures with Sam Raw have inspired me to start up a web page dedicated to Amos' Quirks, I'd like it to keep track of all those funny, un- or poorly documented Amos features which have caused so many head aches over the years. the site is at: http://greycity.cs.uchicago.edu/amos/index.html the html is pretty primitive, I wrote it all in vi as a 'learning exercise', which means it was an exercise in frustration, but alas.... Anyway, I only posted two quirks, the two I recall off the top of my head, sooo.... If you all know of any Amos 'quirks' send'em this way!! BTW: For the quirk pages I just snipped from my old emails, I hope this doesn't pee anybody off, I just figured, rather than pretend like I know anything, why not take the info straight from the horses mouth?? Anyway, I will set-up a contributors page to list all of you... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Tue Jun 22 18:04:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09578 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11374 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 1999 22:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 11175 invoked from network); 22 Jun 1999 22:03:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 22:03:45 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00469 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA00248 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:04:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:04:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Comic Strip Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Leto, I dug the comic as well, Bill Gates looks esp. cute, it's almost sad to see boing man kick him around... :) I also really dug the b&w sketch look to it all, it made for very fast downloading and looked really good, ah how I envy you folks with drawing talent... :) Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 06:30:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA10951 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29651 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 10:29:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29646 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 10:29:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.rothervalley.ac.uk) (194.81.77.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 10:29:49 -0000 Received: by EMAIL_NTEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:27:42 +0100 Message-ID: <974ACDC76E0BD211B54B00805F65087AB505EC@EMAIL_NTEX1> From: S9225796 To: "'amos-list@onelist.com'" Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:27:42 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Timebombs is here!!! Status: O X-Status: From: S9225796 Heh, okay the main game engine is written in Amos 1.3. The audio handler and HD installer is written in Blitz and the decompression routines are in C++ Good idea? Well, it seems to work okay! :P Best regards Matt Briggs > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Crowe [SMTP:andrewcrowe@enterprise.net] > Sent: 22 June 1999 19:35 > To: amos-list@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [amos-list] Timebombs is here!!! > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > > I have just released a really cool demo of a 3d/isometric game of > mine > > called "TimeBombs", which is coded in Amos/Blitz 2 and C. If you > would > > like a copy of this 796Kb DMS disk image then please visit > > http://enginenine.cjb.net or e-mail s9225796@rothervalley.ac.uk with > the > > subject "TimeBombs" > > Amos, blitz and C in the same program? what? how? Are you sure > thats a > good idea? > > See ya. > -- > Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing > Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 > Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes > - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - > A rainbow can occur only when the sun is 40 degrees or less above > the horizon. > --The Miscellanea Digest > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? > http://www.onelist.com > At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 07:05:22 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26337 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11197 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 11:05:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11191 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 11:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.rothervalley.ac.uk) (194.81.77.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 11:05:06 -0000 Received: by EMAIL_NTEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:02:59 +0100 Message-ID: <974ACDC76E0BD211B54B00805F65087AB505F3@EMAIL_NTEX1> From: S9225796 To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:02:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Hello folks :P Status: O X-Status: From: S9225796 Hello all Sorry about my crude e-mail address, but I'm here at college. My home address is actually engine9@ukonline.co.uk. I am wanting to subscribe to this list using my home address, however I can't remember how I managed to join before! Advice please! Also check out my new new new web page at: http://enginenine.cjb.net :)) Best regards, Matt Briggs --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 07:16:13 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06435 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21017 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 11:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21009 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 11:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.rothervalley.ac.uk) (194.81.77.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 11:15:54 -0000 Received: by EMAIL_NTEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:13:48 +0100 Message-ID: <974ACDC76E0BD211B54B00805F65087AB505F9@EMAIL_NTEX1> From: S9225796 To: "'amos-list@onelist.com'" Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:13:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hello folks :P Status: O X-Status: From: S9225796 Cheers dude :P I owe you one :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se [SMTP:Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se] > Sent: 23 June 1999 12:14 > To: amos-list@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hello folks :P > > From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > > > S9225796 wrote: > > > >Sorry about my crude e-mail address, but I'm here at college. My home > >address is actually engine9@ukonline.co.uk. I am wanting to subscribe > to > >this list using my home address, however I can't remember how I > managed > >to join before! Advice please! > > Goto http:\\www.onelist.com and then enter your e-mail address > and password and finally click on "Member Center". > There you can change your e-mail address. > If you've forgot your password there's a help function for you. > > Magnus > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at > AMAZON.COM. > Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to > 50%! > Click Here > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. 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Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 07:15:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06403 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30610 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 11:15:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 30391 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 11:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pine.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 11:15:07 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by pine.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25615 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:16:03 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:14:10 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hello folks :P Status: O X-Status: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > S9225796 wrote: > >Sorry about my crude e-mail address, but I'm here at college. My home >address is actually engine9@ukonline.co.uk. I am wanting to subscribe to >this list using my home address, however I can't remember how I managed >to join before! Advice please! Goto http:\\www.onelist.com and then enter your e-mail address and password and finally click on "Member Center". There you can change your e-mail address. If you've forgot your password there's a help function for you. Magnus --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 16:51:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06789 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31025 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 20:50:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 30980 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 20:50:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 20:50:21 -0000 Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17070 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (ccc21504@msx-arh-16-9.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.10.201]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12247 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:48:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from keller@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Rune Keller To: AMOS List Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:44:38 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] TCP in AMOS Status: O X-Status: From: Rune Keller Sorry if this has been fully covered before... I haven't really paid any attention to this subject until I got my second ethernet card today :) I want to communicate via the netcards in AMOS (for a game). I guess I need some info about the TCP commands of the GUI extension. If it's something else I should be looking for, let me know. I need to know everything, as I currently know nothing... At the point I only have a running network with two Amigas and one PC using Samba. -- rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@vip.cybercity.dk - gimme some sugar, baby! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 18:40:46 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11908 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17821 invoked by alias); 23 Jun 1999 22:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 17776 invoked from network); 23 Jun 1999 22:40:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 1999 22:40:29 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-27-85.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.85]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA24475 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:38:40 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Intuition extention v1.3a ? Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 23-Jun-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > So, has anyone got a copy of *full* version of the intuition extention >V1.3a that I could have please please please? Sorry, I've got 1.3b as well, but it's no worse than any previous version was. I dumped int-ext long ago, just because very few of the features worked as promised. I must add, however, that most of it is duplicated in the gui extension, and gui is pretty much rock solid. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@ragemail.com http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 23 20:51:11 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02840 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16769 invoked by alias); 24 Jun 1999 00:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16758 invoked from network); 24 Jun 1999 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 1999 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26216 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:51:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27875 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:51:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Brilliace... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" anybody ever used Brilliance? wondering how a city boy could score a copy... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 25 11:09:57 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09699 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27342 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 1999 15:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27285 invoked from network); 25 Jun 1999 15:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 1999 15:08:54 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11679 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:09:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23414 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:09:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:09:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] List Archive Search... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Hey, Is there a search engine out there for the Amos Mailing list archives?? I'm working on learnign perl & cgi script so I can write a search engine for the Amos Quirks Page and was thinking why not include a general search of all Amos Mailing list messages... BTW Send them Quirks this way!! Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 25 11:11:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32615 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31300 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 1999 15:10:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31288 invoked from network); 25 Jun 1999 15:10:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 1999 15:10:50 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12608 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:11:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA24461 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:11:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:11:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: Amos List Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [amos-list] Amcaf: Pt Raw Play Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" Just got Amcaf final release, Pt Raw Play seems to quit out early on small files sometimes and it always bails real early on large files 100k+, any ideas... Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 175,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 25 13:37:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08266 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30080 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 1999 17:36:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 30073 invoked from network); 25 Jun 1999 17:36:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midway.uchicago.edu) (128.135.12.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 1999 17:36:44 -0000 Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21455 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:37:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:15273@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20192 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:37:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:37:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu To: amos-list@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <3773C739.3425D98E@iol.ie> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [amos-list] Brilliace... Status: O X-Status: From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Peter Cahill wrote: > From: Peter Cahill > > > DPaintV is quite good, if it didnt crash so much it would be great. > PPaint7 still is no.1 for me :) > > cya, I have PPaint6 and Blech! It's like using a mac. Also I thought the Animation system was very primitive, is it any better in 7?? Thanks, Scott Matott sXe Chicago, Il USA Pac Man Defense A takeover defense pattern named after the video game. The original takeover target attempts to swallow (takeover) the original bidder. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 175,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 25 13:55:26 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA30871 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2998 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 1999 17:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 2989 invoked from network); 25 Jun 1999 17:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero0.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 1999 17:55:23 -0000 Received: from usr03.cybercity.dk (usr03.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.83]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27433 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:49:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-4.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.4]) by usr03.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24402 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:49:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Larsen To: AmosList Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] HELP!!! Status: O X-Status: From: Palle Larsen Hi all you nice ppl. I know it's offtopic, but I do not know where to ask, so here it goes. I need a fastserialcard fo my a4060, so it has to be zorro II/III, and the choice, so far, is between IOBlix v1.3 or Hypercom4, which card is the best and what is good/bad things, what should I choose and why???. If there is other cards then please fill me in. Do we ever see the GUI.extension V2???......... Pietro are you awake??? -- Best Wishes Palle (BALLS) Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://p.larsen.homepage.dk/ H-Page: http://p.a.larsen.homepage.dk/ ICQ: 15538608 Nick: SkodSoft What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Books, music, videos, gifts, e-cards, auctions-find them at AMAZON.COM. Browse Earth's Biggest Selection! Enjoy everyday savings of up to 50%! Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Fri Jun 25 13:14:52 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA31308 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2736 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 1999 17:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2373 invoked from network); 25 Jun 1999 17:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 1999 17:13:04 -0000 Received: from GPO2.GPO.iol.ie (GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA43554 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:13:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0343.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.87]) by GPO2.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05311 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:13:24 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <3773C739.3425D98E@iol.ie> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:15:21 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Brilliace... Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Andrew Crowe wrote: > > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > >> Anybody ever used dpaint 5?? I think it needs os 3.0+ too doesn't > >> it?? > > > > I use dpaintV all the time. It's about the same as 4, but it has aga > > support and such. Not sure if it /needs/ 3.0 or not. > > I've just checked the box, it only needs 2.04+ DPaintV is quite good, if it didnt crash so much it would be great. PPaint7 still is no.1 for me :) cya, -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 26 13:54:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28666 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6869 invoked by alias); 26 Jun 1999 17:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6828 invoked from network); 26 Jun 1999 17:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 1999 17:54:39 -0000 Received: from du-12.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.12]:1027 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <8085-1347>; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:53:58 +0300 Message-ID: <00aa01bebffd$4b04f600$0cc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:55:28 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Vs: [amos-list] Pinball thing Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi Adam, Chris and all, >From: "Adam Parrott" > >Hey, Chris. >> I can't remember who it was, but someone on the list said they were >> working on some sort of Pinball game in AMOS. I was wondering what was >> happening with that. > >Well, the only person I could find from my archived messages was Sasu >Lintula, from June 9th, 1998. Ah yes, I'm the one to blame. It's good to know that there's at least one or two people there who are interested in my current project(s);9 I think there was someone else who also tried to write a pinball-simu'. Haven't heard of it since... Release of the ultimate Pinball Construction Kit is closer than you may think:) The BCK is a one mans project, I'm a terrible slow coder and the game is mainly done with AMAL . These are quite good reasons why it is taking so long to complete. Here's a list what I have done and what I should do before it's free for beta-testing: Ready: -Table independent ball-routine - 50 frames/sec, of course:D -Tables size 320x512 with 32 colours - palette may have to be locked:/ -Flippers, kickers, targets/drop targets, ramps, switches, buttons and lamps - gRoOVyyY... -Scoreboard - will be animated Soon to be: -Bumbers, lockers - are there anything else? -Sound - this is problematic: I've only got Amos1.36 so it may have support only for old ST-format for music. Any suggestions? -Multi-ball support(?) -Editor - it's a construction kit u know;D -Anything else? Feel free to suggest... All kind of mental support is welcome, [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- What do fashion and football have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 26 15:35:18 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA30588 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11632 invoked by alias); 26 Jun 1999 19:35:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 11613 invoked from network); 26 Jun 1999 19:35:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 1999 19:35:39 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-002.enterprise.net [194.72.196.2]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02338 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:35:01 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:33:41 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00aa01bebffd$4b04f600$0cc7e882@samali> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Pinball thing Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Release of the ultimate Pinball Construction Kit is closer than you may > think:) The BCK is a one mans project, I'm a terrible slow coder and the > game is mainly done with AMAL . These are quite good reasons why it is > taking so long to complete. Here's a list what I have done and what I > should do before it's free for beta-testing: > > Ready: > -Table independent ball-routine - 50 frames/sec, of course:D > -Tables size 320x512 with 32 colours - palette may have to be locked:/ > -Flippers, kickers, targets/drop targets, ramps, switches, buttons and > lamps - gRoOVyyY... > -Scoreboard - will be animated > > Soon to be: > -Bumbers, lockers - are there anything else? -Sound - this is problematic: > I've only got Amos1.36 so it may have support only for old ST-format for > music. Any suggestions? I have the free version of AMOS pro. want it? > -Multi-ball support(?) -Editor - it's a > construction kit u know;D -Anything else? Feel free to suggest... Well, if you're after any beta testers, I could ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sat Jun 26 18:12:39 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02124 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30926 invoked by alias); 26 Jun 1999 22:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 30918 invoked from network); 26 Jun 1999 22:12:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.tx.home.com) (24.4.0.66) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 1999 22:12:35 -0000 Received: from cm60308a ([24.7.230.209]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990626221235.EYHE9450.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cm60308a> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:12:35 -0700 Message-ID: <005101bec021$0a1bcb40$d1e60718@ftwrth1.tx.home.com> From: "Adam Parrott" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990621215602.007bb290@redrose.net> <377506FD.C1D1B2FC@iol.ie> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 17:12:54 -0500 Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] q2 matches. Status: O X-Status: From: "Adam Parrott" > Axi: Plz tell us all what the numbers "4-1" mean to you ? I'll leave that in your hands if you tell them what "4-3" means. :) Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator Parrottsoft website under reconstruction. Contact above for more details. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 15:12:27 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29496 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4487 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 1999 19:13:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 4450 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 19:12:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 19:12:59 -0000 Received: from GPO2.GPO.iol.ie (GPO2.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.197]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28763 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:12:23 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0428.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.172]) by GPO2.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17316 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:12:21 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <37768625.E2AF7E76@iol.ie> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:14:29 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <3.0.5.32.19990621215602.007bb290@redrose.net> <377506FD.C1D1B2FC@iol.ie> <005101bec021$0a1bcb40$d1e60718@ftwrth1.tx.home.com> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] q2 matches. Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Adam Parrott wrote: > > From: "Adam Parrott" > > > Axi: Plz tell us all what the numbers "4-1" mean to you ? > I'll leave that in your hands if you tell them what "4-3" means. :) hehe :o) Ok, It was 3-3 in a match, he said "Ive got to go and get something to eat", then about 5mins later he came back. Snuck up behind me, then said "back" and shot me straight away, cos he knew I had to go then. "4-3" is close, but "4-1" isnt, cos i slaughtered you in that match. 2 of them with my BFG, one of them with the BFG at poing blank ;o) Now, you tell us all about the "4-1" complete beating I gave you. :) cyas, -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of 175,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 17:25:47 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25071 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6060 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 1999 21:25:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6039 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 21:25:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web901.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 21:25:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990627212212.22050.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.131.5] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:22:12 BST Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:22:12 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Amcaf: Pt Raw Play Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- "Scooter D. Matott sXe" > Just got Amcaf final release, Pt Raw Play > always bails real > early on large files 100k+, any ideas... Amiga audio hardware (aka Paula) is limited to playing samples maximum length 131000 (or so). Any longer and it plays the length MOD 131000, so for just over it plays only a short part. Solution: split the sample into several pieces Solution: resample the sound an octave up (loss of quality) (If you use audio.device with iorequests (as in AmigaOS and not AMOS ;) then double buffering is really easy, but the rest of the coding isn't) Good luck Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 17:27:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30205 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17263 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 1999 21:27:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17219 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 21:27:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 21:27:42 -0000 Received: from modem-39.phosphorus.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.7.39] helo=jokerd.freeserve.co.uk ident=gazza) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10yMSc-0000m5-00 for amos-list@onelist.com; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:27:35 +0100 From: Gareth Griffiths To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:27:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joker Developments Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Gareth Griffiths Hi Andrew On the 27-Jun-99 you said something about [amos-list] Name of game... so now I am going to offer a witty retort (well maybe :) PQ: From: Andrew Crowe PQ: PQ: Hi Everybody, PQ: PQ: I have my bomberman clone going nicely, but I still can't PQ: really decide on a decent name for it, so maybe you guys can help PQ: out: PQ: PQ: So far, I have: PQ: PQ: · Blast Radius This is taken as well. PlayStation got there first :) PQ: PQ: · Blast Force Hmm. Don't like that PQ: PQ: · Bomber Blaster OK. Not entirely original tho PQ: PQ: · Demolition Man (um, actually I think that name' s taken! dang) Nuff said. PQ: PQ: · Maximum Force Creeap. PQ: PQ: PQ: So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better PQ: one? please? PQ: None of them. How about Super Blast Wave Fighter Turbo Alpha Gamma II: The New Challengers:) Or just Super Blast Wave or DynaWarrior or AMOS Bombers Or Bomb or Big Bomb or some other items. Sorry if there is a lot of critisicism in here, but u asked for it :)) PQ: PQ: See ya. -- Gareth Griffiths Founder of Joker Developments: E-Mail: *gaz@jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* WWW: *www.jokerd.freeserve.co.uk* ICQ: *GazChap (31023012)* Check your altimeter! Pull a lever! Push a button! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 17:09:23 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28932 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25837 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 1999 21:08:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25825 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 21:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 21:08:39 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-005.enterprise.net [194.72.196.5]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA28102 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:09:03 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37768625.E2AF7E76@iol.ie> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I have my bomberman clone going nicely, but I still can't really decide on a decent name for it, so maybe you guys can help out: So far, I have: · Blast Radius · Blast Force · Bomber Blaster · Demolition Man (um, actually I think that name' s taken! dang) · Maximum Force So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better one? please? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Colgate introduced a toothpaste in France called Cue, the same name as a notorious French porno mag. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 17:37:54 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30030 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5362 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 1999 21:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5345 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 21:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 21:37:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-005.enterprise.net [194.72.196.5]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02568 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:37:46 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:36:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > PQ: · Blast Radius > > This is taken as well. PlayStation got there first :) D'oh. > PQ: · Blast Force > > Hmm. Don't like that D'oh. > PQ: · Bomber Blaster > > OK. Not entirely original tho Sure isn't. > PQ: · Maximum Force > > Creeap. D'oh. > PQ: So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better > PQ: one? please? > None of them. >How about Super Blast Wave Fighter Turbo Alpha Gamma II: > The New Challengers:) Um, nah. > Or just Super Blast Wave Uh, maybe not. > or DynaWarrior I'm sure thats taken by something. > or AMOS Bombers I really *don't* want people thinking its written in amos. > Or Bomb > > or Big Bomb > > or some other items. Um, none of those either. > Sorry if there is a lot of critisicism in here, but u asked for it :)) No prob. Oh great, I'm still stuck for a name, anyone else got any? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - When every raise is run, and the day is closing in, I don't care 'bout the world, I'm living for the light, -- Ace of Base --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 05:32:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA31009 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9433 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 09:32:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 7931 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 09:29:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 09:29:56 -0000 Received: from ragemail.com (Giark@AS52-01-52.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.52]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26432 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 27-Jun-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > I have my bomberman clone going nicely, but I still can't really decide >on a decent name for it, so maybe you guys can help out: >So, whats your preference, or perhaps you can think of a better one? please? Cap'n Bubba And The Big Bad Bombs! Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Sun Jun 27 20:44:06 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06728 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4650 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 00:44:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4436 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 00:44:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv0.space.net.au) (202.168.96.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 00:44:36 -0000 Received: from goliath (p012.rp5.space.net.au [202.168.99.13]) by srv0.space.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA11519 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:43:43 +0800 Message-ID: <3776C4FC.3092@space.net.au> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:42:36 +0800 From: "Andy H." Organization: GeoSync Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: "Andy H." Hi, Here`s a few. 1) Acetylene Alex 2) U.X.B. Extreme 3) C4 Charlie (very catchy as in "D for Dog") 4) Explode N Reload 5) Fraggin Freddy. 6) Impact Corps Well, I'll think of some more later, Andy H. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How has ONElist changed your life? Share your story with us at http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 04:25:50 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA16879 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5678 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 08:25:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5670 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 08:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.utu.fi) (130.232.1.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 08:25:40 -0000 Received: from du-60.isdn.utu.fi ([130.232.199.60]:1027 "HELO samali" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <7794-1343>; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:25:37 +0300 Message-ID: <005801bec140$3bc6bae0$3cc7e882@samali> From: "Sasu Lintula" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:52 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [amos-list] Vs: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: "Sasu Lintula" Hi, >From: "Andy H." > >Hi, > >Here`s a few. >1) Acetylene Alex >2) U.X.B. Extreme >3) C4 Charlie (very catchy as in "D for Dog") >4) Explode N Reload >5) Fraggin Freddy. >6) Impact Corps > >Well, I'll think of some more later, >Andy H. I've got a few too: -Supa Dupa Fire Fight (SDFF) -Burn Your Friends And Dance on Their Graves (BYFADTHG) -Filip The Fireman And His Bad Day (FTFAHDB) -The Ultimate And By Far The Best Copy of The Classic Bomberman (TUABFTBCTCB) ;-) Ok, those names may not be so good. But It's a fact that power of the name relies mostly on it's shortened version which everybody regognize, like SWOS. If you look at those shortened names you'll see that they have great potential;P [Sasu Lintula] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 05:35:08 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA28162 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8854 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 09:35:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 8842 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 09:35:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 09:35:13 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA566E for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:44:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3777410D.F6A4E9@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:31:57 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <00aa01bebffd$4b04f600$0cc7e882@samali> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Vs: [amos-list] Pinball thing Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" > Ready: > -Table independent ball-routine - 50 frames/sec, of course:D > -Tables size 320x512 with 32 colours - palette may have to be locked:/ > -Flippers, kickers, targets/drop targets, ramps, switches, buttons and > lamps - gRoOVyyY... > -Scoreboard - will be animated Cool ! > Soon to be: > -Bumbers, lockers - are there anything else? Spinners > -Sound - this is problematic: I've only got Amos1.36 so it may have support > only for old ST-format for music. Any suggestions? Forget modules. Use only sampled music as jingles. They will give an atmospher to the game and it is easy to associate a sample to any event (bumper, target...) > -Multi-ball support(?) > -Editor - it's a construction kit u know;D > -Anything else? Feel free to suggest... Small anims when player scores something significant. example : "50 000" spinning from far. > All kind of mental support is welcome, Go! go! go! It is not easy, that's why it's a great challenge ! -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 06:03:03 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA32430 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12243 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 10:03:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12236 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 10:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isis.univ-lille2.fr) (193.51.139.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 10:03:12 -0000 Received: from hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr ([194.167.255.12]) by isis.univ-lille2.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA5A9C for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: <377747A3.AC00BEB6@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:00:03 +0200 From: "floquet" Organization: Universite de Lille 2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <3776C4FC.3092@space.net.au> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: "floquet" Here are some suggestions: Bomb'em all The bomb team Bomberos (=firemen in spanish) Bombers bombers Boom! Peek-a-boom Big badaboom Big bang Bangers Bang Boom Bomb (BBB) Law of the bombs ...I'm tired, now ;) -- +____________ +____ /____ ____/\ / / \___/ __/\_\/ *____/ / AMIGA Amiga owners AMIGA /__/\_\/ \ / / POWER know the RULES \__\/ \/___/INSIDE difference. !!!! http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com Check out the new "DEFAULT MODERATED STATUS" option. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 09:37:42 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07369 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2983 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 13:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2919 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 13:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cicero2.cybercity.dk) (212.242.40.53) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 13:37:19 -0000 Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero2.cybercity.dk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA04042 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:31:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.a.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-hob-1a-4.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.24.4]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08330 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:31:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from p.a.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk) From: Palle Anker Larsen To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:19:14 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: skodsoft Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Name of game... Status: O X-Status: From: Palle Anker Larsen Hi Andrew! Den 28-Jun-99 skrev Andrew Crowe: AC> Oh great, I'm still stuck for a name, anyone else got any? How about: BombAstic ChickenBlaster :) GnomeBlaster DwarfBlaster BoobBlaster (C)AstroBlaster BillBomber LastChanceLetsRock (LCLR) :) No it's difficult to find a good name, but if I dream one I'll maile it to you. -- Best Wishes Palle Larsen _\|/_ (6_6) ___oOO(")OOo______________ E-Mail: p.a.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118 Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 16:04:53 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09549 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19743 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 20:05:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19725 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 20:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 20:05:23 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0043.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.43]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA10174 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:04:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:03:05 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: RO X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli Hi everyone Does anybody have a formula/algorithm for plotting perfect(ish) circles? I've tried several I found on the net (well.. they were vector rotation algorithms, but that shouldn't really matter), and none of them come close to the circles amos or turboplus produce... Regards Arash Tavakoli --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Find people who care about what you care about. http://www.onelist.com At ONElist: your connection to community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 16:43:20 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10952 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1803 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 20:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 1694 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 20:42:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web906.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.81) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 20:42:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990628204359.2808.rocketmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.132.53] by web906.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:43:59 BST Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:43:59 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= --- Arash Tavakoli wrote: > Does anybody have a formula/algorithm for plotting > perfect(ish) circles? I found a book with loads of raster algorithms ages ago, I think it was called Fundamentals of Interactive Computer Graphics (may be Principals instead of Fundamentals). I think I noted down the more useful ones, I'll check to see if the circle (or ellipse) is one of them. I you haven't heard from me in a week then I haven't got it... Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 17:13:19 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA31063 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12957 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 21:13:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 12914 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 21:13:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 21:13:51 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a01-0043.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.43]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA05128 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:13:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:11:34 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 29-Jun-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Would joining up a load of sin/cos points with lines be ok? why join them with lines when you can simply plot every single point from the formula?:) (doesn't need to be fast.. just accurate:) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 17:47:59 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03966 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28198 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 21:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28180 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 21:48:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 21:48:33 -0000 Received: from online.no (ti04a02-0055.dialup.online.no [130.67.29.119]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA10193 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:47:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Arash Tavakoli To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:46:16 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Arash Tavakoli On 29-Jun-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > But you might have gaps between some points if you make it too big... can't you just increase angle resolution?:) i'm sure 1/10000th of an angle could cover a very big size:) (tho decimal limits in amos might prevent very high resolution i guess...) > By the way, what is wrong with amos' circle command? Do you want to do > something more with it then just draw it? yeah.. ever try doing just part of a circle?:) (experimenting with curves... figuring out how to make rigid and flexible curve systems...) (got interrested in vector drawings when I couldn't get a decent pdf viewer... but decoding pdf is too much for me so I just started figuring out my own vector design system... and screeched to a halt when I got to curves and discovered I couldn't even plot a perfect circle...) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has 175,000 e-mail communities from which to choose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 17:06:07 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13451 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28616 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 21:06:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28601 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 21:06:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 21:06:37 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-029.enterprise.net [194.72.197.89]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25297 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:06:00 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:04:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Does anybody have a formula/algorithm for plotting perfect(ish) circles? > > I've tried several I found on the net (well.. they were vector rotation > algorithms, but that shouldn't really matter), and > none of them come close to the circles amos or turboplus produce... Would joining up a load of sin/cos points with lines be ok? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hitler and Napolean each had only one testical. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 17:17:12 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17374 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17410 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 21:17:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17389 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 21:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 21:17:45 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-029.enterprise.net [194.72.197.89]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27746 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:17:03 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:15:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Would joining up a load of sin/cos points with lines be ok? > > why join them with lines when you can simply plot every single point from > the formula?:) > (doesn't need to be fast.. just accurate:) But you might have gaps between some points if you make it too big... By the way, what is wrong with amos' circle command? Do you want to do something more with it then just draw it? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Attention ONElist list owners. http://www.onelist.com We've just added a "NO ATTACHMENTS" option. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Mon Jun 28 18:20:30 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12113 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1465 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 1999 22:20:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 1443 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 22:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 22:20:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-054.enterprise.net [194.72.195.54]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA10457 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:20:21 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> But you might have gaps between some points if you make it too big... > > can't you just increase angle resolution?:) i'm sure 1/10000th > of an angle could cover a very big size:) > (tho decimal limits in amos might prevent very high resolution i guess...) well, suite yourself. if you drew a line you could problaby get away with just 20-30 points on a smaller circle (speed may not be much of an issue, but you don't want to wait hours while it draws a circle ;) >> By the way, what is wrong with amos' circle command? Do you want to do >> something more with it then just draw it? > > yeah.. ever try doing just part of a circle?:) > (experimenting with curves... figuring out how to > make rigid and flexible curve systems...) Ah, you're after splines then. I think there are some extentions that can draw those (um, is it in Amcaf or turbo? I've seen it in one of those.) > (got interrested in vector drawings when I couldn't get a decent pdf > viewer... but decoding pdf is too much for me so I just started figuring > out my own vector design system... and screeched to a halt when I got to > curves and discovered I couldn't even plot a perfect circle...) Ah yes, I developed some rotating/scaling line vector routines a while back. Havn't really done anything with them since ;( See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 24/5/99 --- Bomberman clone update & site changes - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Penguins can jump as high as 6 feet. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of 175,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 03:12:31 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA19535 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 03:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9184 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 07:12:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9179 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 07:12:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.tx.home.com) (24.4.0.66) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 07:12:20 -0000 Received: from cm60308a ([24.7.230.209]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990630071226.OECW9450.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cm60308a> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:12:26 -0700 Message-ID: <009d01bec2c7$f3da4100$d1e60718@ftwrth1.tx.home.com> From: "Adam Parrott" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990621215602.007bb290@redrose.net> <377506FD.C1D1B2FC@iol.ie> <005101bec021$0a1bcb40$d1e60718@ftwrth1.tx.home.com> <37768625.E2AF7E76@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:12:45 -0500 Organization: Parrottsoft, Ltd. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] q2 matches. Status: O X-Status: From: "Adam Parrott" > > > Axi: Plz tell us all what the numbers "4-1" mean to you ? > > I'll leave that in your hands if you tell them what "4-3" means. :) > > Ok, It was 3-3 in a match, he said "Ive got to go and get something > to eat", then about 5mins later he came back. Snuck up behind me, then > said "back" and shot me straight away, Actually, I went back and watched the demo, and the score was 5-3. :) > Now, you tell us all about the "4-1" complete beating I gave you. You beat me, serving two good BFG shots, if I remember correctly. :) Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator Parrottsoft website under reconstruction. Contact above for more details. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:36:41 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26596 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6111 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6071 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO boober.lineone.net) (194.75.152.84) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from default (host5-99-43-8.btinternet.com [195.99.43.8]) by boober.lineone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00273 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:36:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003601bec31f$20ec1d60$082b63c3@default> From: "Eric" To: "Amos List" References: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:35:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEC327.4DBFAA20" Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hard Disks Status: O X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEC327.4DBFAA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Andrew, Old Wrinkly again. The reason I was asking about the 'PC' Hard disk to Amiga, was that my = son is upgrading his hard disk on his PC and I was hoping I would be = able to make use of it on my A1200, would the connections be the same? = His PC is a Packard Bell and the Hard Disk, it says, is a IDE/ESDI, if = thats any help. Thanks a lot. Old Wrinkly ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEC327.4DBFAA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Andrew,
            =    =20     Old Wrinkly again.
The reason I was asking about the 'PC' Hard disk to Amiga, was that = my son=20 is upgrading his hard disk on his PC and I was hoping I would be able to = make=20 use of it on my A1200, would the connections be the same?  His PC = is a=20 Packard Bell and the Hard Disk, it says, is a IDE/ESDI, if thats any = help.
            =    =20     Thanks a lot.
            =    =20             =     Old Wrinkly
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEC327.4DBFAA20-- From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:52:35 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27447 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32394 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:52:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 32360 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web905.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.80) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:52:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990630175229.23047.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.134.243] by web905.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:52:29 BST Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:52:29 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= To: amos-list@onelist.com Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= Hi I found the algorithm for drawing a circle, here it is in pseudo-code. I haven't actually tested this, but it should work. It is Michener's algorithm, from "Fundamentals of Interactive Computer Graphics" (c) 1982-3 J D Foley, A van Dam. (This book has everything - from low level line drawing up to raytracing.) All variables are integers. Just don't ask me how the thing actually works... -->8-------------------------------------------------------- procedure circle(cx, cy, radius, pen) // consider the first 1/8 of the circle x = 0 y = radius d = 3 - 2 * radius while x < y circlepoints(cx, cy, x, y, pen) if d < 0 d = d + 4 * x + 6 else d = d + 4 * (x - y) + 10 y = y - 1 endif x = x + 1 endwhile if x = y then circlepoints(cx, cy, x, y, pen) endprocedure procedure circlepoints(cx, cy, x, y, pen) // plot 8 points on the circle, by symmetry plot(cx + x, cy + y, pen) plot(cx + x, cy - y, pen) plot(cx - x, cy + y, pen) plot(cx - x, cy - y, pen) plot(cx + y, cy + x, pen) plot(cx + y, cy - x, pen) plot(cx - y, cy + x, pen) plot(cx - y, cy - x, pen) endprocedure -->8-------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, why do you need to draw circles? Why not use the OS functions directly - they should be the fastest. Good luck anyway. Claude _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:22:21 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17874 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2161 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2062 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:22:37 -0000 Received: from GPO1.GPO.iol.ie (GPO1.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.196]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02865 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0367.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.111]) by GPO1.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12879 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:07 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <377A60DE.951C39DD@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:24:30 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: <001101bec252$d06d8da0$452f63c3@default> Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hard Disks Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Eric wrote: > > From: "Eric" > > Hi! Knowledgeable ones, > Old Wrinkly here again. > QUESTION 1 - I have 2 hard disks (internal ones) is it okay to couple > the two of them and have them read as one drive. No, you cant access 2 drives as 1. QUESTION 2 - Is there an exterior lead that I can use on an internal > type hard disk, so that I can put it in a separate holder and use it from > one of the ports. That way I can use it as a mobile storage. No, unless its a SCSI HD. With a IDE you wouldnt have a long enough cable. and if you got one, you would get to much interference on the cable, unless you screened each one of the 40 ribbons. which would be WAYYYYYY to much hastle > QUESTION 3 - Is it possible to use a PC internal type hard disk on an > Amiga. PC hd ? A hard disk is a hard disk, theres no machine pacific ones. You might need a 2.5" to 3.5" cable converter for a standard drive. (assuming the standard to be 3.5" IDE) -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:22:29 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26277 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32668 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 32633 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.192) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:22:25 -0000 Received: from GPO1.GPO.iol.ie (GPO1.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.196]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02916 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0367.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.111]) by GPO1.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12929 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:23 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <377A60EE.C00AF53F@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:24:46 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Arash Tavakoli wrote: > > From: Arash Tavakoli > > Hi everyone > > Does anybody have a formula/algorithm for plotting perfect(ish) circles? Theres 2 worthwhile ways of doing this. You could use Bresnhams midpoint algorithm, its fastest, and quite accurate. Or Sin/Cos combined. I remember I searched the WWW for Bresnhams one a while back, only his line one seems to be floating around. To do it in Sin/Cos, you will need to also use a line algorithm, (use bresnhams, none other comes close, Ive got it if you want it) With it, (for a ellipse) you do a: ' This presumes R1 and R2 is the radius, and you have a LINE procedure ' for your points array. and CX and CY are the center coords PX = R1 PY = R2 Degree For A = 0 To 90 S = Sin(A) C = Cos(A) X = C * R1 Y = S * R2 'Get the points in a line between the points. LINE[CX+PX,CY+PY,CX+X,CY+Y] LINE[CX-PX,CY+PY,CX-X,CY+Y] LINE[CX+PX,CY-PY,CX+X,CY-Y] LINE[CX-PX,CY-PY,CX-X,CY-Y] PX = X PY = Y Next A Of course, if you need circles only, you can make it calculate only to 45 degrees, and add in 4 more calls to the "LINE" procedure. Its quite a while since I coded amos, so I dunno if this will work directly, it should :oP These circles are not *PERFECTLY* round, but they do look it once the radius isnt somthing like 10000. Or, for a more faster, more accurate routine, you should use bresnhams algorithm, the above one isnt nearly as accurate as it. If you want Ill code it for you also in amos. cya, -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:22:51 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA24567 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5105 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5087 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:22:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iol.ie) (194.125.2.193) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:22:19 -0000 Received: from GPO1.GPO.iol.ie (GPO1.GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.196]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA39407 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:41 +0100 (IST) Received: from iol.ie (dialup-0367.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.111]) by GPO1.GPO.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12969 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:22:39 +0100 Sender: PaC@iol.ie Message-ID: <377A60FE.63539298@iol.ie> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:25:02 +0100 From: Peter Cahill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) To: amos-list@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... Status: O X-Status: From: Peter Cahill Paolo Rinaldi wrote: > > From: "Paolo Rinaldi" > > Once upon a time there was a sage, Arash Tavakoli, who enlightened the world about > [amos-list] Seemingly easy task... > > > Does anybody have a formula/algorithm for plotting perfect(ish) circles? > > I've tried several I found on the net (well.. they were vector rotation > > algorithms, but that shouldn't really matter), and > > none of them come close to the circles amos or turboplus produce... > > Well, in January I brilliantly passed my Geometry exam, so I think I > should share my enormous knowledge with you ;-) > Here's an example which should be quite close to what you need: > > Degree > R=50 : XC=100 : YC=100 > ' R = Radius; XC,YC = coords of the center of the circle > ' A is the angle: I prefer using degrees ;-) > For A=0 To 360 > Plot XC+R*Cos(A),YC+R*Sin(A) > Next > That routine will work HORRIBLY SLOW!!!! Your not taking advantage of circles been so geometric. Also, what if the radius is about 200 ? Youll just end up with a bunch of dots, in a circluar shape with there been spaces between each dot. cya -- . .···. ···············.: : : .-----------. Author of TGE |/° |····. : / \| | : .-------//° \ .-| : .··| /° __/ \ |····' `··| (_/ \ |·······. | / \ | : | /___________\-------' : | |email : cahill4@iol.ie : `---' : : : : : `·············' `············' --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? http://www.onelist.com More than 5,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From nobody Wed Jun 30 13:42:43 1999 Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by osf1.gmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08689 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 513 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 1999 17:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 505 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 17:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 17:43:06 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-032.enterprise.net [194.72.195.152]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01801 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:42:37 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: amos-list@onelist.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:41:09 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003601bec31f$20ec1d60$082b63c3@default> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [amos-list] Hard Disks Status: O X-Status: From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Thanks Andrew, No problemo > Old Wrinkly again. > The reason I was asking about the 'PC' Hard disk to Amiga, was that my son > is upgrading his hard disk on his PC and I was hoping I would be able to > make use of it on my A1200, would the connections be the same? His PC is a > Packard Bell and the Hard Disk, it says, is a IDE/ESDI, if thats any help. > Thanks a lot. If you get the right leads, it'll work no prob. If its a 3.5" drive you'll have to take the kinda stretched out U shaped thing that the keyboard rests on (the drive bay) and squeeze it under the keyboard. It will fit though, I've got one in mine ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/6/99 --- James Bond release imminent - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Its the same room but everythings different, you can find the sleep but not the dream... -- Crowded House --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Check out this week's ONElist of the week. http://www.onelist.com How is ONElist changing YOUR life? 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