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If it`ll will help, Ive the got the original manual for it, i`ll get a chap at
work to OCR it and post it on! Theres also a nice A4 sized sheet of a
breakdown of all the commands, and on the reverse is a description of how OM
works and is used, I`ll also scan in as a picy and pass on !

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>I have an interesting problem, folks. Here goes:
>I'm using a 'command line' in an AMOS program I'm running (input a string
>of characters, or more specifically commands, into a string like CMD$).
>Now, if the user says 'set <variable> <value>', I want to be able to set
>the named variable to the value they give (assume the variable exists).
>Right now, as I said, I'm reading in a string, and then I parse the string
>for the variable and the value (VAR$ and VAL$). Here's the problem (using
>this method): How do I change the ACTUAL VARIABLE when the NAME of the
>variable is in the string? Varptr() prefers pre-typed variable names in the
>program and doesn't seem to like any substitues. Also, I couldn't say
>Varptr(VAR$)
>as that'll give me the address of the string, not the variable. I want the
>address of the VARIABLE so I can change it's value. Any ideas on this?
>Remember, what I want is basically 'set <variable> <value>'. If anyone has
>a solution or a better method than what I'm using, my box is open. Thanks!


Wow, a challenge.  You've tried the obvious,  now it's time for the obscure
and devious..  For this, we need to access the amos variable table, which is
around somewhere..  I'm not one of those assembly guys with the source code,
but I'm sure it has to be possible.

Aha...  A solution comes to mind..  self modifying code !!  Is this gonna
need to work compiled, or not ??  If not, it will probably be a LOT easier.
We can easily get the address of the program, and write it in that way.
Perhaps we are using an accessory that modifies the code directly.  Perhaps
the amos code is called by an external routine that modifies a data file for
amos.  Maybe all the data is stored externally, and modified by a seperate
piece of code.  Perhaps we are directly accessing an external copy of the
variable table.  I can do it with memory banks, but that isn't sufficiant.
There is an extension available (can't remmeber of hand, probably easy life)
that uses variables set at the beginning of the code and can handle
structured variables stored in memory banks that it should be possible to
modify with the usual methods.

Hmmm.  Actually quite a difficult task you have here.  Do I remember
something on aminet that printed out your variables ?  Or was it extensions
?  Something like that.  Fascinating.

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That would be great and maybe Rune could make it available on the AMOS
Factory website.

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From: Minion2197@aol.com

If it`ll will help, Ive the got the original manual for it, i`ll get a chap
at
work to OCR it and post it on! Theres also a nice A4 sized sheet of a
breakdown of all the commands, and on the reverse is a description of how OM
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From: Andrew 'BadHart' Maughan <andrew_hom@yahoo.com>

Hey people...
does anyone know any good amiga emulators for the PC? And where can i
find kickstart roms?
==
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> 
> Hey people...
> does anyone know any good amiga emulators for the PC? And where can i
> find kickstart roms?
>

I know UAE works quite well. There's a program with it (or at least 
with the distribution I got) that lets you make a copy of the 
kickstart rom on your amiga, creating a .rom file.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>


http://web.ukonline.co.uk/madjock.m/ is an excellent source of emulators for
the peecee.  It also has links to the Amiga emulator sites and roms.

http://home6.inet.tele.dk/aqvist/uae/ is a good source of files for the
emulator.


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From: Andrew 'BadHart' Maughan <andrew_hom@yahoo.com>

Hey people...
does anyone know any good amiga emulators for the PC? And where can i
find kickstart roms?
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On 02-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:

> That would be great and maybe Rune could make it available on the AMOS
> Factory website.

Sure. Pass it on and I'll (try :) to put it on the site.

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From: ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

Took awhile but I now have replaced the bad HD. Seems I had almost everything
backed up, but some things weren't..

Can someone send me the amos compiler again. Also is the Amos home page still
alive ? The page with the devpac source code ? I went to the search engines
and all ¦ could find was mushypd, (êy mushy you don't have the amos home page
as a link..


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On 02-Mar-99 03:35:41 my search for intelligent life turned up this
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 AM> Hey people...
 AM> does anyone know any good amiga emulators for the PC?

No, sorry.

Anyway, who wants an IBM emulator?

 AM>                                                       And where
 AM> can i find kickstart roms?

Amiga ROMs? Inside every Amiga! (Available seperately from Amiga
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Subject: [amos-list] Amos 3D Commands
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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

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I decided to make an amigagude file containing the Amos 3D commands and have
attached it to this email.  It is only 3k in size which makes it ok to post
it to the list.   The archive is packed using lha but I renamed it to zip as
some lha files get corrupt when emailed as attachments so rename the file to
Amos3D.lha if you are going to unpack it.  I also have a copy of the Object
Modeller and if anyone wants it email me privately.

Please note that I copied the commands from a magazine and do not know if
they are complete.  Enjoy......

Declan.
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From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk>

This is for Andrew Crowe, but his EMail doesn`t seem to work....

> To: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterpise.net>
> Subject: Re: 4ply adaptor
> Date: 03 March 1999 18:08
> 
> Hi,
>  I tested out your program. The joystick on the left worked fine, except
> the
> FIRE button didn`t work. On the right, only up and down worked. Oh, Q
> worked, and sent me back to Workbench!
> 
>  Are you the same author of Wizards of Odd? It`s the same group anyway.
> It`s
> a cool game. I reviewed it for you in AIO.
> 
>  If you do get the joystick routines to work, could you send me the
source?
> I think it is an AMOS program. Am I right?
> 
> Talk soon,
> 
> --
> 
> Lee Hesselden  (aka. wrecker98)           | Current Amiga Software:
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From: * de Jong * <joopdejong@wxs.nl>

Hello ken

On 02-Mar-99 ken wrote:

> From: ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
>
> Can someone send me the amos compiler again. Also is the Amos home page
> still alive ? The page with the devpac source code ? I went to the search

Ofcourse it is :).  The Amos home page?
There are many Amos homepages:
The one with the AMOS sourcecode: http://www.clickteam.com
The AMOS Factory: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.hmtl

> engines and all ¦ could find was mushypd, (êy mushy you don't have the
> amos home page as a link..


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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>

Any news of GUI ext 2?

Hurry up and get it on AMOS Factory !  :)

It may involve loads of monitor swapping for me but this is one thing
thats worth it!

-Murray


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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 03-Mar-99, Alastair Murray wrote:
>Any news of GUI ext 2?

I'm still working on the docs. 

>Hurry up and get it on AMOS Factory !  :)

I am going as fast as I can.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Rev. Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@youvegotmail.net
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Whats happened to the Pitfall site ? Has it died along with the game ? Are we
no longer doing anything ? 

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From: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" <ender@vision.net.au>

Hehe, good one :)
Rev. Giark the slavedriver, Rev. Giark 'I wanted that yesterday!' :)

>   The good Rev. Giark warned you of this... you need to CRACK
>   THAT WHIP!!!
>   Personal pride and the need to excel always help too!!!!
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>   Hahaha.  :-)
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>Whats happened to the Pitfall site ? Has it died along with the game ? Are
we
>no longer doing anything?

   The good Rev. Giark warned you of this... you need to CRACK
   THAT WHIP!!!
   Personal pride and the need to excel always help too!!!!

   Hahaha.  :-)

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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

G'Day All
    A recent HD Controller crash and subsequent tears :-( has made me rethink
my backup policy. Previously, using AmiBack 2.0i and AmiSched, I'd backed up
what I thought were the 'critical' files every night. Unfortunately, when it
came to the crunch (as it did) it turned out that a lot of the files I
thought weren't critical in fact were (like my AMCAF key, my AMOS extensions,
my internet dialup software, ... you get the idea). So I've decided I should
do the occasional COMPLETE backup (about 200 and something Mb and growing),
with daily backups of the changing, 'critical' files. The problem is that I
only seem to be able to use one zip catridge (about 100Mb or so). When this
disk fills, and I get a 'volume zip is full' message, and try to insert
another zip disk (same physical and logical device name) I'm not able to fool
the backup prog (be it my preferred AmiBack, or even Quarterback) into
continuing the backup onto the new disk. Short of copying the files over by
hand onto the zip disk, does anyone have any ideas as to how to do this?
Surely someone else backs up to Zips?
Since this is off-topic, you may want to reply privately so as to not annoy
the rest of the list
Thanks in advance

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>disk fills, and I get a 'volume zip is full' message, and try to insert
>another zip disk (same physical and logical device name) I'm not able to
fool
>the backup prog (be it my preferred AmiBack, or even Quarterback) into
>continuing the backup onto the new disk. Short of copying the files over by
>hand onto the zip disk, does anyone have any ideas as to how to do this?


This will almost certainly work...

    diskchange physical_device_name:

..will tell the OS you have inserted different disk.

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>continuing the backup onto the new disk. Short of copying the files over by
>hand onto the zip disk, does anyone have any ideas as to how to do this?
>Surely someone else backs up to Zips?
>Since this is off-topic, you may want to reply privately so as to not annoy
>the rest of the list

2 programs I use..
dremind (avail from aminet)
and the one below

lha -x -r -d -a -N u backup:system2 sys:#?

The above oneliner, the icon type is a project, and the tooltype is iconx. It 
sits in my sys drive. Hmmmm.... wonder if I set the script bit, if dremind 
can do the whole job ???

For now I just smack the icon monthly and upload to my PC's bbs...
You could mod the above to several different lines, and like I said if 
dremind can execute a script, you could create several of the above for each 
directory needing backed up and where to put it.. Then just let dremind do 
the timing for when to backup...

I've been the route of using these 'SPECIAL backup' programs with their own 
special algorithms to dearc the files. Thats how I lost a backup of Dbase 4 
and Lotus 1-2-3... The backup got trashed a bit and the backup program 
couldn't do squat about it...

Using LHA, ARJ, ZIP, what have you, you can usually salvage something. If the 
backup program throws up on any bytes thats the end of the whole backup

Lost CED that way also as it was archived all by itself...


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From: ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>There are many Amos homepages:
>The one with the AMOS sourcecode: http://www.clickteam.com
>The AMOS Factory: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.hmtl

Don't know if you know it, but you're sending out dupes. And when I did a 
reply with yam, it said 'reply to sender and other recipients'. That seldom 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Declan Gorman <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
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Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 8:08 AM
Subject: [amos-list] Amos 3D Commands


>I decided to make an amigagude file containing the Amos 3D commands and
have
>attached it to this email.  It is only 3k in size which makes it ok to post
>it to the list.   The archive is packed using lha but I renamed it to zip
as
>some lha files get corrupt when emailed as attachments so rename the file
to
>Amos3D.lha if you are going to unpack it.  I also have a copy of the Object
>Modeller and if anyone wants it email me privately.
>
>Please note that I copied the commands from a magazine and do not know if
>they are complete.  Enjoy......


Hi, I`m looking for the complete AMOS 3D package, e.g. the library and
source, is that contained in the object modeller? If it is then could you
e-mail me it please!

Thanks,
Lee.



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What I do have is a DMS file of The Object Modeller, a DMS file of AMOS The
Creator which includes all of the required AMOS 3D package and were given
away on a magazine coverdisk a few years ago.  If anyone wants this please
email me privatley.

Declan.

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From: "Geff Marchment" <lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>


-----Original Message-----
From: Declan Gorman <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
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Subject: [amos-list] Amos 3D Commands


>I decided to make an amigagude file containing the Amos 3D commands and
have
>attached it to this email.  It is only 3k in size which makes it ok to post
>it to the list.   The archive is packed using lha but I renamed it to zip
as
>some lha files get corrupt when emailed as attachments so rename the file
to
>Amos3D.lha if you are going to unpack it.  I also have a copy of the Object
>Modeller and if anyone wants it email me privately.
>
>Please note that I copied the commands from a magazine and do not know if
>they are complete.  Enjoy......


Hi, I`m looking for the complete AMOS 3D package, e.g. the library and
source, is that contained in the object modeller? If it is then could you
e-mail me it please!

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Lee.



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I cant remeber off hand who asked for it, so all those that did want the scan
of my AMOS 3D Refernce card (Containing all the AMOS 3D instructions one side,
and a descripion of all the OM functions on the other) E-Mail me privatly and
I`ll E-Mail them too you. I have them in JPG format at the moment, and they
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I know this is going to sound like a stoopid question, but can anyone lead me
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Hi Everybody,


> I know this is going to sound like a stoopid question, but can anyone lead
me
> in the direction to find a "SMALL" LHA archiver for the miggy !

   Small in what way?

Just the program 'lha' can create/decompress LHA files. If you want a GUI
then do an aminet search for 'knack' or something.

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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>

	
	Hey folks,
	sorry I dissappeared, two papers and a midterm this week, but
still I read and appreciated all your comments, even those from the
non-believers ;)  
	Here's a big reply to everything said:

so:
Palle Anker Larsen (from Denmark!) said:
Yes, it's GREAT, but is it true, that only 2 LedSsamples is used in one
player??
	
	Yeah this is true, only 2 samples in each mode.  The samples avg.
about 80k in length so 2 play modes X 2 Samples X 80 + 80 (for intro loop)
= 400k, the actuall sample bank is even bigger than this, so you can see
why I didn't include too many, I suppose I could include more by having
several sample banks, then pick a random one to load at the start of each
level, the banks would be smaller (2-300k) would a 2-300k load slow the
game up too much between levels, what do you folks think?  (also the more
samples I use the further in Copyright trouble I get ;)

Neil ives said:
A1200 - 040/50Mhz - Game runs at a good speed.

Well your machine's even faster then mine! :)

Again Neil Ives:
#I'm impressed with the way you and Amos have created such a slick game.
Amos# 
	Thanks, this was actually a key goal of mine, I'm as proud of Amos
as the next guy but I didn't want it showing through in my game, :)

Neil also recommended that I send the game to AF magazine, jsut let me
know how, ok?  thanks!

Neil also said:
#I also am interested in where peeps are from. Can I suggest that Amos#
#Listers put their location in their signatures?#
	Well I'm all about this suggestion, of course I'm not so sure
where ot add my country, the way I did it now makes it look like I'm
writing my Snail Mail address instead of my signature.

#I have 2 teenage boys who are busy play testing SPMania.#

	Cool, Floquet also had kids playing the game, anybody else got
youngsters testing the game?  I'm actualy quite interested in how they
respond, kids are the most demanding critques. but also the funnest to
please.  ;)


Andrew Crowe added:

Its not too bad. The music adds a nice touch, could you have a perminant
drum beat in the background when none is playing though? it seems a bit
silent when theres nothing playing.

	I agree the game is too quiet during the game, usually eating
pellets makes for enough noise, but there are definately quiet moments.  I
had experiamented with adding the drum loop throughout the game but it
gets waaay too repetitive (yes even that classic drum beat (anybody spot
it yet?) get's dull after ten minutes)  I'd need different drum loops left
and right, maybe this could be part of the multi-sample bank solution I
was talking about.  The orig. Mrs. Pac-Man gets around this silence issue
by having ms. pac make jaw flapping noises when she isn't eating pellets.
I could try this as well I suppose.

Andrew Crowe also said:

Also, 2 player modes good as well.

	Yeah this feature is waht makes the game IMHO, otherwise jsut
another (albiet cool zep enhanced) paccer.  But 2-play at the same time is
massively fun.  By the way the only bug n the game that I know of happens
in the two player mode, I noticed just before I sent the game out, will
correct it.  (anyvody spot it? hint, try both paleyrs dyng alot)

Andy added further:
I think that the GFX could be bigger though, they seem a bit small.

	I chose the GFX size so i could evenly fit the orginal pac-man map
onto the screen, the trouble is the Pac arcade machine is taller than it
is wide, whereas our 'miggies are wider than they are tall!  Nonetheless
this is a good point, I tinkered with thidea of scrolling the visible
screen around a bigger map but canned it after playing some pac-man Jr, it
uses this feature and sucks!  

Oh but Andrew wasn't doen with me just yet:

Apart from that, its not bad. I think it could be more original, like
having powerups that randomly appear and have random effects (jump over
walls for a certain amount of time?) 

	Ut-oh, I don't want to be caught mincing words, but while I
definately see the originality point, I gotta say I'm not all interested
in adding any fancy stuff to the game, my mission statement was to make a
decent pac clone for my miggy cause I couldn't find one that would run on
my machine.  Also I've played Super-Pac-Man in the arcades, which is sort
of like this, lots of wierd power ups and stuff, changing walls and
things, and I can say it sucks!  All the same I appreciate the comment
Andy, I'm a pretty hard core Pac-Man fan but I could see where there might
be room for bonus extras and such in the game, in fact it might add alot
to the two-player mode.  I'll give it some thought, what kind of extras
would be cool in the two player mode, any ideas folks??

Oh andy was nice too:
   Well, keep up the good work.
thanks man, will do.

Oh and later he added:
 I think SPMainia needs more work before it'd win though.

	I see the point, I once read an article talking about a neat
Pac-like written in Amos and the reviewer started off by saying "At first
glance one might think 'Oh great just what the world needs another poorly
written Amos Pac-man clone.'"  He went on to praise the game, but I kept
that quote in the back of my mind the whole time I was writing the game,
still it's not clear to me even a well-written pac-clone is worth any
awards, I wouldn't be hurt if they chose to give'em to something more
original.  :)

Everybody's pal Giark wrote:

One change I'd make: Some sort of game over thing when your last man dies. 
It's a bit abrupt, going right to the title screen as soon as you die for
the last time. 

	good point, it's a simple thing to ask too.  Also I know the
screen flicks some when the name-entry scheme for high-scores appears,
this was a by-product of my switch to loading the screens instead of jsut
Unpacking them, so I didn't bother to fix it up since I just wanted to get
a working ver. of the game out to you guys as soon as possible.  So I'll
fix up both these, even got a sample in mind for Game-Over music.

	Speaking of music the saddest comment came from Leto, who all the
from down Under, commented:

Haha -- well to be honest I've never heard any Led Zepplin tunes.
But the samples you've included are pretty cool!

	AAAHH!!  This is truly tragic, leto if international postage
wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg (making me that much closer to looking
like pac-man :)  ) I'd rush you a Zep CD overnight!!  You just don't know
what you been missing son.  Seriously, they are an absolutely dynomite
band, there's no denying it, they are also the 2nd best selling band of
all time (behind only the beatles)  If you want an album to look for try
spinning Led Zeppelin II or Houses of The Holy, oh and Zep IV is home of
Starway to Heaven, can't be you'v enever heard that one!  

	Now as for the rest of you, there's no excuse, come on now you
must be able to spot those samples, one of the two-player ones is just
about the most famous Rock n roll song ever!!!

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
				Chicago, IL USA
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Hello ken

On 04-Mar-99 ken wrote:

> From: ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
> 
>> There are many Amos homepages:
>> The one with the AMOS sourcecode: http://www.clickteam.com
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In caseyou somehow miss it on the list you also get it private.


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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



Hi all,

I seem to have a major computer fault, my a1200t is crashing like
crazy and frequently taking longer and longer to actually start
working, when I switch on.

I'm broke and can't afford a new a1200, and this is the 3rd
a1200 motherboard I've had (2nd hand) so if the problem persists
then I give up.

no more 3d... :(

I'm really depressed, as my miggy is not only my passion for
3d, but also my lines of communication.. so i'll lose a
lot of good friends. :(

I think the system will totally collapse in 2-3 days, thats why
I'm saying "goodbye" now.

BTW - Its only my a1200 motherboard thats gone, ne1 wanna buy
a 2nd hand 166mhz PPC 060/50 SCSI2.? , Tower, HD, cd-rom,
1700 disks and 75CD's? :)

if you're interested then write to:

Stephen Thornber
Flat 4,
44 Withnell Rd,
Blackpool,
South Shore,
Lancs,
FY4 1HE
England

sob sob sob..

Steve
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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>


	Hey all,
	I am still quite committed to the pitfall project,
	want to write the movement routines,
	what I need to know is, what are the states we envision
	for Pitfall Harry, I mean what in all can harry be doing?
	I suggest:
		
	1) Standing/Running on ground
	2) Jumping
	3) Swinging (on rope)
	4) Climbing (like up a laddder)
	
	that covers the original pitfall, what about adding:
	5) Swimming
	
	Well I need to know what ones to use, then I will
	dream up a structure to deal with all the states and such and
	send it in for you guys to pick apart, then maybe I start
	writing the code finally (sound ok?)

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From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Scooter!

Sorry for a late reply.

Den 24-Feb-99 skrev Scooter D. Matott sXe:

SDMs>  From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
SDMs>  
SDMs> >  
SDMs> >  Yes, it's GREAT, but is it true, that only 2 LedSsamples is used in
SDMs> >  one player??
SDMs> >  
SDMs> >  Keep up the GOOD work!!
SDMs> >  
SDMs>      Thanks, yeah there are two samples in the one player mode and two
SDMs>  diff. ones in the two player mode. Since that totalled to 490k with
SDMs>  the intro drum loop I decided not to throw anymore in, although I had
SDMs>  dozens prepared. Incidently if you can folks have a sound sampler you
SDMs>  can stick your own samples in just by replacing mine in the
SDMs>  PacSounds.Abk file, the one player sounds are about 7 secs long and

That would be a shame to do, Led rules ;)

SDMs>  the 2 player are about 5 secs long.
SDMs>      Thanks again, working on a burger time clone, hope it goes over
as
SDMs>  well, though I'm not sure if it can, there's no place for zep samples
SDMs>  in that game. ;)

Arghhh, maby the hiscorelistemusic could be a LedTune and the intromusic ;)

SDMs> >  
SDMs> > > 3) Where are you all from? I read users in Denmark, Germany,
SDMs> >  Uk,
SDMs> >  
SDMs> >  I'm from Denmark, the dark north of this beatifull country.
SDMs>  
SDMs>      Born and reaised there?  You guys play a lot of Hockey?  

Yup, born and raised, and yes there is alot of skating activities in this
part of denmark, and we have players from all over the world, even Canada ;)


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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello Stephen

On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I seem to have a major computer fault, my a1200t is crashing like
> crazy and frequently taking longer and longer to actually start
> working, when I switch on.
> 
> I'm broke and can't afford a new a1200, and this is the 3rd
> a1200 motherboard I've had (2nd hand) so if the problem persists
> then I give up.
> 
> no more 3d... :(
> 
> I'm really depressed, as my miggy is not only my passion for
> 3d, but also my lines of communication.. so i'll lose a
> lot of good friends. :(
> 
> I think the system will totally collapse in 2-3 days, thats why
> I'm saying "goodbye" now.
> 
> BTW - Its only my a1200 motherboard thats gone, ne1 wanna buy
> a 2nd hand 166mhz PPC 060/50 SCSI2.? , Tower, HD, cd-rom,
> 1700 disks and 75CD's? :)
> 
> if you're interested then write to:
> 
> Stephen Thornber
> Flat 4,
> 44 Withnell Rd,
> Blackpool,
> South Shore,
> Lancs,
> FY4 1HE
> England
> 
> sob sob sob..
> 
> Steve


Is what you really need an excuse to give up on the Amiga? I just saw a
picture that you did in the latest Amiga Format (April 99). It's very good.

We have probably all felt like giving up when our Amiga's play up, but when
it comes to it decide not to move to something inferior. 
Sorry if you've tried all this but.........why should the mother board fail?
Try re-seating all the socketed chips, (earth yourself first). What's it
like when you boot from a floppy? Check for virus's. Check the HD ribbon
cable connections. Spray contacts like that with electrical lubricant. Try
reformatting the HD. I had a Seagate 200MB hard disk when I bought my 1200,
it gradually became more and more faulty, with block errors. The computer
frequently crashed. Eventually the HD refused to boot. The only thing I
could do was buy a new HD.  
I have installed Professional File System 2 on my new HD, this avoids
invalidated disks. I can safely turn the machine off while writing to disk
without anything bad happening, just the loss of that last save. I have a
zip drive so I can back up my HD just in case.
I have always used a power supply smoothing device. I have never
plugged/unplugged anything while the machine is turned on.

Come on man don't give up yet. The Amiga needs all the support it can get.

I have an unused new Amiga Technologies A1200 Magic pack for sale but I
guess you could get a mother board much cheaper.


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Hello de Jong

>> Don't know if you know it, but you're sending out dupes. And when I did a
>> reply with yam, it said 'reply to sender and other recipients'. That
> seldom
>> happens..
> 
> Yep, I did that on purpose. I send one to the list and one to you.
> I renember reading in a book (Netiquette?) that it's a good custom
> that if you reply to somebody you also send a copy private.
> In caseyou somehow miss it on the list you also get it private.

It's somewhat irritating tho:) wonder who wrote such a thing:))

(then again it might be good in enormous list that have 70 mails a day
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 08-Mar-99, Palle Anker Larsen wrote:
>Yup, born and raised, and yes there is alot of skating activities in this
>part of denmark, and we have players from all over the world, even Canada ;)

What do you mean, /even/ Canada?

I had more, amos related, to say, but I forget it now.

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 06:15 PM 3/3/99 EST, you wrote:
>From: Minion2197@aol.com
>
>Whats happened to the Pitfall site ? Has it died along with the game ? Are we
>no longer doing anything ? 

It is back up now, so i hope the guys are still updating it

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I have solved my conversion problem, but what are the opinions about
Klik and Play and Hisoft Basic?





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>I have solved my conversion problem, but what are the opinions about
>Klik and Play and Hisoft Basic?


Personally, I find Hisoft Basic 2 usefull, and very stable, with a nice
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Hi everyone,

I am new to amos-list but not to amos or the amiga, I just love the 
amiga.

anyway, now to the subject, I was wondering if anyone has made an 
Isometric game in amos, I have started but was wondering if you have any 
code or somethingfor detecting where the mouse is on the tiles.

That would be very usefull.

cheers,

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Hi Andy,

Where is the Pitfall website.  I`d like to see how things are going?

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From: "Andy H." <geosync@space.net.au>

Hi Andy,

Where is the Pitfall website.  I`d like to see how things are going?

Andy H.

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Hi,

you'll find the pitfall website at:

HTTP://mushypd.dynip.com/pitfall

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 08:05 AM 3/10/99 +0800, you wrote:
>From: "Andy H." <geosync@space.net.au>
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>Where is the Pitfall website.  I`d like to see how things are going?
It can be found at http://mushypd.dynip.com/~pitfall

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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

G'Day all,
Since so many people were kind enough to respond privately to my backup
question, I thought it only fair that I post a summary of the replies to the
list, I thought some of the information would be useful to others . (This is
how our biomechanics list works)
Oh, BTW I'm currently evaluating Diavolo (which works like a charm) and will
check out ABackup next week (freeware).
Cheers,
Rod Whiteley

I use Diavolo and a tape backup. No problems with using multiple tapes. I
believe it can use Zips too, although I haven't used it for that purpose.

 RW>                             Surely someone else backs up to Zips?

I use ABackup version 5.14 with my ZIP drive.


 - Rand
<sb>
Rand R. Fredricksen

I have set up my HD like my PC at work to have program directories and a
main Data directory off the root with sub directories for Final Writer,
Amos etc. I don't archive the data files, I use UpdateCopy with a script
run by IconX from an icon. UpDateCopy obviously only copies newer files.
The script excludes the file icons. This is useful because the process was
being slowed down updating the snapshot info from the icons. I have to
check for space on the Zip occasionally. If you have loads of stuff, you
could arrange further scripts for different sections. I recently tidied up
my data by lha archiving to a zip disk all data greater than a year old and
removing it from the HD.

I have lha'd my program directories seperately to another zip but I dont
know if one really needs to backup program files as you could re-install
them from the originals. 
Hmm......your mail has made me think about the prefs settings though. I
think I'll change the prefs paths to save into my Data directory. 

Let me know if you want a copy of UpDateCopy and the script that I use.

<sb>
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        MALVERN 
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>continuing the backup onto the new disk. Short of copying the files over by
>hand onto the zip disk, does anyone have any ideas as to how to do this?
>Surely someone else backs up to Zips?
>Since this is off-topic, you may want to reply privately so as to not annoy
>the rest of the list

2 programs I use..
dremind (avail from aminet)
and the one below

lha -x -r -d -a -N u backup:system2 sys:#?

The above oneliner, the icon type is a project, and the tooltype is iconx. It 
sits in my sys drive. Hmmmm.... wonder if I set the script bit, if dremind 
can do the whole job ???

For now I just smack the icon monthly and upload to my PC's bbs...
You could mod the above to several different lines, and like I said if 
dremind can execute a script, you could create several of the above for each 
directory needing backed up and where to put it.. Then just let dremind do 
the timing for when to backup...

I've been the route of using these 'SPECIAL backup' programs with their own 
special algorithms to dearc the files. Thats how I lost a backup of Dbase 4 
and Lotus 1-2-3... The backup got trashed a bit and the backup program 
couldn't do squat about it...

Using LHA, ARJ, ZIP, what have you, you can usually salvage something. If the 
backup program throws up on any bytes thats the end of the whole backup

Lost CED that way also as it was archived all by itself...


>disk fills, and I get a 'volume zip is full' message, and try to insert
>another zip disk (same physical and logical device name) I'm not able to
fool
>the backup prog (be it my preferred AmiBack, or even Quarterback) into
>continuing the backup onto the new disk. Short of copying the files over by
>hand onto the zip disk, does anyone have any ideas as to how to do this?


This will almost certainly work...

    diskchange physical_device_name:

..will tell the OS you have inserted different disk.

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From: jono <jono@enti.demon.co.uk>

Hey, Declan Gorman , didn't you write?:
>From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>To be honest they don't show a whole lot although the people in the picture
>look very pleased with themselves.  Nice backdrop, glowicons and they didn't
>even change the Ram disk icon.

Hiya,

All it seems to show is that the top title bar has gone. Hmm (as he checks to
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Hi,
anyone visited in the amiga web directory lately?
In the news section you should see first official pics of OS3.5 but for
some reason I can't see them (www.amiga.de doesn't reply or something):(
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To be honest they don't show a whole lot although the people in the picture
look very pleased with themselves.  Nice backdrop, glowicons and they didn't
even change the Ram disk icon.

Declan.

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is gui extension 1.7 documentation about TCP commands complete?

I guess Giark was working on it but there is no news about it since
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 10-Mar-99, ardaoncu wrote:
>is gui extension 1.7 documentation about TCP commands complete?

Not complete, because Pietro went offline for a while. Abot 80% of tcp is
done.

>I guess Giark was working on it but there is no news about it since
>months...

You've not been watching. GUI 2.0 is in beta stages. I'm doing a complete doc
of the entire extension. It's more of a chore than you might think.

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From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Rev.

Den 09-Mar-99 skrev Rev. Giark To You:

RGTY>  From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>
RGTY>  
RGTY>  On 08-Mar-99, Palle Anker Larsen wrote:
RGTY> > Yup, born and raised, and yes there is alot of skating activities in
RGTY> > this part of denmark, and we have players from all over the world,
RGTY> > even Canada ;)

First of all did you notice the smily??

RGTY>  
RGTY>  What do you mean, /even/ Canada?

Canada - Hockey / Hockey - Canada, any bells ringing???
Canada is one of the best/biggest hockey nations ever.

Sorry, if my answers is a little longer than your's B).
I would not take too much of your time though ;).

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From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Scooter!

Den 10-Mar-99 skrev Scooter D. Matott sXe:

SDMs>  From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
SDMs>  
SDMs>  
SDMs> > RGTY>  What do you mean, /even/ Canada?
SDMs> > 
SDMs> > Canada - Hockey / Hockey - Canada, any bells ringing???
SDMs> > Canada is one of the best/biggest hockey nations ever.
SDMs>  
SDMs>  
SDMs>      just to jump into this frey, yeah Canada's big on hockey, but are
SDMs>  they best?? they've lost the last two big world tourney's (world Cup,

OK, once they were, but yes it goes in the wrong direction.

SDMs>  won by USA!! and Olympics, won by Team Czech!!) The top players in
the
SDMs>  NHL are alomst all European these days, Jamir Jagr Dominik Hasek
(both
SDMs>  czech) Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin (Swedish) Teemu Seleane (Finland,
SDMs>  do you say Finish?) Anyway, sorry couldn't resist the urge to talk

Arggggghhh, they live on ice, I know ;).

SDMs>  hockey for a minute, :)

Darn, DArn, DARNNNNNNN ;))))))


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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>


> RGTY>  What do you mean, /even/ Canada?
> 
> Canada - Hockey / Hockey - Canada, any bells ringing???
> Canada is one of the best/biggest hockey nations ever.


	just to jump into this frey, yeah Canada's big on hockey, but
are they best??  they've lost the last two big world tourney's (world Cup,
won by USA!! and Olympics, won by Team Czech!!)  The top players in the
NHL are alomst all European these days, Jamir Jagr Dominik Hasek (both
czech) Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin (Swedish) Teemu Seleane (Finland, do
you say Finish?)  Anyway, sorry couldn't resist the urge to talk hockey
for a minute, :)


			Thanks,
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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>


	Ok folks,
	So I finally got away from the old ball and chain for a bit, (just
kidding, I do love my girl :)  and launched the 3rd major revision of
SuperPacMania, I made a bunch of changes, but there's still more to be
done.  Here's what I did:

	1) Sped up Pac-Man 
		Sounds simple but this really makes the game alot better,
it's more like the arcade game and changes the dynamics a little, instead
of just dodging the ghosts your more trying to avoid them (ie keep from
running into them rather than keep them from running into you)  Also this
change helps the graphics a little, there still as small, but the boards
feel smaller (because you move faster) so the graphics feel bigger, make
sense??  Also gives the game a 'fast and furious' feeling.

	2) Made Pac-Man slow down when eating pellets
		Just a little bit of a slow down, makes it more like the
arcade game and gives some strategy (ie try to clear escape paths across
baord for outrunning ghosts in a pinch)
	
	3) Completely re-wrote ghost AI
		they are now alot better.  No more turning around ever!!
Well can move backwards if trapped. but otherwise, never turn around.
Also now always either chase or run, no more 'random wander' mode.  Much
better, ghosts are trickier, but also have just right amount of
predictability so there is more strategy to deciding where you move.  

	That's all right now, am very proud of how I did new AI and kept
ghosts from moving backwards, it's the 3rd AI engine the game has seen and
it by far the best.  Also proud of how easy it was to implement these
changes, seriously, speeding up pac man litterly took deleting two lines
of code and adding one new one.  good structure in your code really does
pay heavy dividends. :) 

	To Do:
	
	1) Game Over Screen
		No swett to do just not too interesting from a coding
stand point, still it'll be there I promise!

	2) More samples, new sample routines
		Again i know how I want to implement this change just take a
minute.  Also Floquet put together a new sample bank for me, it may
replace the zep bank, for copyright reasons.  Sad to see zep go, :( , but
I'm sure Floquet's got something equally as rocking prepared for us, :) 

	3) True Ghost "Home(s)"
		Will take a bit more work

	4) Ghost turn into eyes and run home.
		This will actually be quite simple with my new AI code.

	5) Edible/Dangerous ghosts on board at same time
		Will take work, but have idea how to do.

	6) New Bigger gfx
		Still a maybe but want to try it at least

	Ok I admit this list is more for me than you, but wanted to
announce my hot new changes, and let you guys know I was taking your
comments seriously.  Actually looking at my list I made three changes
nobody mentioned (well somebody complained about ghosts turning around)
and didn't work on any of the ones you talked about, but they're next I
promise. :)

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
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I dot s`pose any of you lot can help me, but Im after any STAR WARS mods ! Can
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,


> Does anyone actually use this news group ALT.RELIGION.AMOS ??? If not, why
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> Surely its ideal to post binaries there, then theres no hassel over
sending
> them via the list ! Any suggestions ?

   There definatly used to be one like that, but I think it died!

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,


> I dot s`pose any of you lot can help me, but Im after any STAR WARS mods !
Can
> you point me in the right direction to find some, or if you have any, can
you
> E-mail them to me ?

   Writing a starwars game? If you like I'll search my MOD cd for one.

If not you could always record it as a large sample and use the hd sample
playback routine in the amospro manual. 

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In a message dated 10/03/99 23:35:35 GMT Standard Time,
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<<   There definatly used to be one like that, but I think it died!
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It still exists ! I keep popping on to see if anyone does post anything !
Theres the odd add bout every week or so, but that seems to be all !

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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>






---Minion2197@aol.com wrote:
> I dot s`pose any of you lot can help me, but Im after any STAR WARS
mods ! Can
> you point me in the right direction to find some, or if you have
any, can you
> E-mail them to me ?

Erm Dunno If You Will Be Allowed But I have The Mods From Star Woids !!!

I dunno if these are copyrighted or not but will let you have them if
no-one complains !!!

mail me if you want them !!

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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>






---Minion2197@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone actually use this news group ALT.RELIGION.AMOS ??? If
not, why ?
> Surely its ideal to post binaries there, then theres no hassel over
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> them via the list ! Any suggestions ?
 
I do read it occasionally but as i have just started to recieve them
there are loads of back logs to go through !!!
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From: Minion2197@aol.com

In a message dated 10/03/99 23:38:08 GMT Standard Time,
andrewcrowe@enterprise.net writes:

<<   Writing a starwars game? If you like I'll search my MOD cd for one.
 
 If not you could always record it as a large sample and use the hd sample
 playback routine in the amospro manual. 
 
  >>
Record the CD ? Well Ive already done that on my PC (Argh !) and ecah CD is
640 meg a piece ! Besides that, Im still using AMOS 1.3 on my lowly A500
(Lowly ? God damn it, its still better than this pile of shitte they call a
PII !)

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From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se

> "Scooter D. Matott sXe" wrote:
> 
>	just to jump into this frey, yeah Canada's big on hockey, but
>are they best??  they've lost the last two big world tourney's (world Cup,
>won by USA!! and Olympics, won by Team Czech!!)  The top players in the

Don't forget the World Championship, won by Sweden!!! :-D

>NHL are alomst all European these days, Jamir Jagr Dominik Hasek (both
>czech) Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin (Swedish) Teemu Seleane (Finland, do
>you say Finish?)  Anyway, sorry couldn't resist the urge to talk hockey
>for a minute, :)

Me neither.

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Minion2197@aol.com a écrit:
> 
> From: Minion2197@aol.com
> 
> I dot s`pose any of you lot can help me, but Im after any STAR WARS mods ! Can
> you point me in the right direction to find some, or if you have any, can you
> E-mail them to me ?

No ! Don't e-mail him where he can find Stra Wars MODS !!!!

Email *US*, or better, give the url(s) here, I guess there are lots of
star wars addicts here !!


**************** ABOUT SUPER PACMANIA ****************

As said Scooter, I created a new sample bank for his game,
BUT:
* He never heard it again, so he may think it's shit ;)
* I use some commercial samples, too, but as they are techno,
copyrights are smoother!
* Damn, I use the 20th Century fox and THX trailers, too... 8(
* It is huge, the lha file weights 654 Kb !! So goodbye 512k chip
machines...

Anyway I'll create other(s) banks, with self-made loops and shorter
samples.

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Hi,


Super PacMania sounds really good, but I cant find it anywhere to 
download.

I would really like to play it and maybe offer some good feedback.

could you please tell me where I can get the game.

Cheers,

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

Be of good cheer, fellows.

The gui docs are shaping up. I've integrated all the gui 1.7 docs and my gui
tcp 1.8 docs. I've also sent to Pietro the list of undocumented commands. As
soon as he gets back to me, I will add them in. Remember, over 200 commands
have to be documented.
 
Well met and godspeed,
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Does anybody know where I could locate a 10base-T Ethernet card for my
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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>


	Hey there,
	does anybody know if you can control the volume of a specific
sound channel using amos?  Like I want to play a sample in one channel
then slowly fade it out, w/o affecting the other channels.  Any ideas?

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 11-Mar-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote:
>does anybody know if you can control the volume of a specific
>sound channel using amos?  Like I want to play a sample in one channel
>then slowly fade it out, w/o affecting the other channels.  Any ideas?

Volume works just like sam play. Use the voice parameter and you can alter
volume levels of one or more voices.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello Scooter

On 11-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
> 
> 
>     Hey there,
>     does anybody know if you can control the volume of a specific
> sound channel using amos?  Like I want to play a sample in one channel
> then slowly fade it out, w/o affecting the other channels.  Any ideas?
> 

My AmosPro manual (pg 08.01.03) says:

VOLUME level
VOLUME /voice/,level

The VOLUME command controls level of sound..0 to 63
and
VOICE bit-mask....representing the state of one of the four channels
eg 
Voice %1111: all voices activated
Voice %0001: Voice 0 only
Voice %1001: Voices 3 and 0

So
Volume %0001,63
Boom:Wait 100:Rem Channel 1 loud

Volume %1110,5
Boom:Wait 50:Rem Channels 2,3,4 soft
 


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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

I have been thinking about the new release of AmosPro and am wondering if
there is any documentation to accompany it.  There are still quite a number
of people using Amos The Creator and this release will be welcomed but
practically useless if they do not know or understand the syntax of the
AmosPro commands.

Would the current AmosPro users consider documenting a chapter each from the
manual for such people and of course for the better of the Amos community.
*8^)
Before anyone asks, Yes I do own a copy of the AmosPro manual and am more
than willing to contribute.

What do you think?

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> "Declan Gorman" wrote:
> 
>Would the current AmosPro users consider documenting a chapter each from
the
>manual for such people and of course for the better of the Amos community.

>Before anyone asks, Yes I do own a copy of the AmosPro manual and am more
>than willing to contribute.

>What do you think?

Great idea.
If there's no copyright difficulties, that is. Pietro?
And yes, I've got a copy of the AP manual too and am willing to contribute.

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On 12-Mar-99, Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se wrote:
>>Before anyone asks, Yes I do own a copy of the AmosPro manual and am more
>>than willing to contribute.
>Great idea.
>If there's no copyright difficulties, that is. Pietro?
>And yes, I've got a copy of the AP manual too and am willing to contribute.

As do I. And, to get it started, here's a text file of several chapters of
amos commands. (Syntax only)

Whingers shut up! You want amos 3 to be here, you have to take a bit of data
transfer.

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From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi,
Does anyone know if amos 3d is compatible with AMOS Pro?

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello Declan

On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:

> Would the current AmosPro users consider documenting a chapter each from
> the manual......

I'm thinking, thats a lot of typing. I might be persuaded to try some of it.
Would a listing of all the commands be useful so that the on-line help can
be accessed to explain syntax etc? Better than nothing?

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Well, the Dungeon for CBATNAM is coming along. After some collaborating
(between PAC and myself, with help from Kalms), I have implemented some c2p
routines into the Dungeon. Here are some test results from my Amiga:

A2000 'o4o/25 with WB 2.1 (ECS):
8fps-20fps with texture mapping
15fps-30fps without texture mapping

Cool, eh? Yes, these results ARE IN *AMOS* (compiled, of course). In
theory, people running an AGA setup should get a MUCH higher frame rate,
due to the fact that the c2p's are currently optimized for o3o+ AGA (30-50
fps?). Anyhow, there are still a few bugs to be worked out, but as soon as
they are, then I will be sending a demo to Keith and the List. Stay tuned.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
The official Parrottsoft site at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net up soon.


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On 12-Mar-99, Lee Marchment wrote:
>Does anyone know if amos 3d is compatible with AMOS Pro?

Yes, but you have to replace a few files from 3d with ones that came with
APro.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>



	Hey all,
	Thanks for the scoop on volume control, put the routine in
super-pac mania this morning, worked like a charm, now I can set the Power
pellet timer to anything I want!!  Thanks a bundle, game is grooving along
great, just added a cornering routine, pretty cool, figured it out by
wasting a few quarters at the arcade and watching how the orignal pac man
game handled corners, turns out to be much simpler than you'd think.  
Floquet: Will get back to you in a bit, sorry, I keep making more and more
changes, but very close to done with them, then I'll pass you the ditty
ok.  Same to everybody else, as soon as I get his new revisoin done it'll
be rock-a-rolla time!

BTW
	Got to see the Road Warrior movie last night, great film, would
love to work on a Road Warrior/Spy Hunter style game sometime, any
partners out there.  Also Pitfall guys, will have movement routine design
out soon, sorry, so many distractions...

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
				Chicago, IL USA

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Hi Everybody,

   Thought you might all like to know that I've just redone my website.

It now features a list of all the games/utils I've writen, with links to
download them from aminet.



To have a look, goto 

   Http://members.tripod.com/~MantaSoft/
or
   http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/



   Email me with what you think of it...

See ya.
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To Anybody That Wants The Starwars Mods From Starwoids

They Total 737k in LZX Format If You Want Them Mail Me Or Does Anyone
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Hi everybody,
                       HELP, anyone know where I can get AmosPro v2.00 and
its compiler as I only have an early version of Amos Pro and keep getting
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                                                    Eric.



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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>






---Eric Molyneux <eric@molyneux.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi everybody,

Spose that includes me!

>                        HELP, anyone know where I can get AmosPro
v2.00 and
> its compiler as I only have an early version of Amos Pro and keep
getting
> problems, please, please help.
>                                                     Anyone know the
current legal status of this is it freely distributable or does the
copyright or distribution rights belong to some one ???
________
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Notification from ST3 Headquarters

Yes, I /am/ still working on SoloTrek III. It got put on the back burner due
to other projects, but I am still working on it.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

Two things:

1. What's happening with respect to CBAT NAM? Keith? Art guy (I /will/
eventually remember to save your email address)?

2. Are you making a ST3 module? Did you get an email about ST3? If not, tell
me so I can get you on the list. Also, any beta testers who wish to get on the
ST3 waiting list for releases to test, let me know.
 
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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>

You wrote:
>I am still quite committed to the pitfall project,
>for Pitfall Harry, I mean what in all can harry be doing?

Yes, I think your actions for Harry sound pretty good.

I know I've set myself up as half co-ordinator, but to be honest,
I'm finding it rather difficult to find time. I'm sure no-one
wants to have a person working on the game who's finding it a
hassle. I still want to help out, but this level of position is a
bit too much......... any one want to take over?

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From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Rev.

Hi on 12-Mar-99, Rev. wrote to me about: [amos-list] Re: Amos 3d so I decided
to write back!
> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>
> 
> On 12-Mar-99, Lee Marchment wrote:
>> Does anyone know if amos 3d is compatible with AMOS Pro?
> 
> Yes, but you have to replace a few files from 3d with ones that came with
> APro.

what files?

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>Two things:
>1. What's happening with respect to CBAT NAM? Keith? Art guy (I /will/
>eventually remember to save your email address)?


Well, my end is delayed, (wow, there is a suprise) but the minute I get a
tiny bit of inspiration and time, things will proceed.
Inspiration=gfx/sound/new code...  I'm still more than a little annoyed at
losing the updated code in the crash.

>2. Are you making a ST3 module? Did you get an email about ST3? If not,
tell
>me so I can get you on the list. Also, any beta testers who wish to get on
the
>ST3 waiting list for releases to test, let me know.


Huh ?

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On 14-Mar-99, Leto Kauler wrote:

>I know I've set myself up as half co-ordinator, but to be honest,
>I'm finding it rather difficult to find time. this level of position is a
>bit too much.

I must say:

*I told you so.*

Yep, had to say that. Been there, done that. Getting code/pics/sound is like
pulling teeth without anaesthetic.

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello children are you sitting comfortably? Then I will begin.
Once upon a time I had an idea......... 
I have often wondered what you people are like, how old you are, what you
have done with Amos, if you are at
school/college/university/work/unemeployed/armed forces, where you live,
what gender, other interests, what computer experience you
have......etc,..etc.
I propose to create a  CV template which I will mail to the list. Those who
want to, can fill in the details and mail them back to the list. Those who
are interested can keep those mails and refer to them when writing to
someone, locating their web site, or reading their comments.
If you keep your own copy you can update details later and mail it to the
list again.
Anyone got anything to say about this idea? 
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On 13-Mar-99, Lee Marchment wrote:
>> Yes, but you have to replace a few files from 3d with ones that came with
>> APro.
>what files?

Replace the amos3d.library with amospro32.library. It's on one of the ap
disks, in a weird spot.

Well met and godspeed,
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Hi Everybody,

> Hello children are you sitting comfortably? 

   I am indeed.

>Then I will begin.
> Once upon a time I had an idea......... 

   do go on...

> I have often wondered what you people are like, 

   Oooh, you don't want to know what /we're /like! :) (joke.) 

> how old you are, what you
> have done with Amos, if you are at
> school/college/university/work/unemeployed/armed forces, where you live,
> what gender, other interests, what computer experience you
> have......etc,..etc.

   See my website..;)

> I propose to create a  CV template which I will mail to the list. Those
who
> want to, can fill in the details and mail them back to the list. Those who
> are interested can keep those mails and refer to them when writing to
> someone, locating their web site, or reading their comments.
> If you keep your own copy you can update details later and mail it to the
> list again.

   well, fair enough. I can't see anything wrong with that.


See ya.
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Hi there..

Does anybody know what's wrong when I get a "Amos screen not compatible with
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Perhaps the Amos screen height you have defined is not suitable for Amos3D.
Change the screen height and see if you get any change.  *This is just a
guess.*

Declan.

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Hi there..

Does anybody know what's wrong when I get a "Amos screen not compatible with
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Hello Neil,

>I'm thinking, thats a lot of typing.

Indeed you could be right but a small price to pay for all the hard work put
in by Pietro and the rest of the team.

>I might be persuaded to try some of it.

Great!

>Would a listing of all the commands be useful so that the on-line help can
>be accessed to explain syntax etc? Better than nothing?

Anything at all would be welcome.

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From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk>

Does anyone know how I can see how many characters are in a variable (the
one i want  to find out is t$(2). This is for Blitz ][ but it could be the
same in AMOS,

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>Perhaps the Amos screen height you have defined is not suitable for Amos3D.
>Change the screen height and see if you get any change.  *This is just a
>guess.*
>Does anybody know what's wrong when I get a "Amos screen not compatible
with
>3d" runtime error?
>


...screen width should be 320 if memory serves.
make sure TD SCREEN HEIGHT=something sensible
Make sure the number of colours is quite low (8 ish), but it does
compensate.

Have fun.

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uAMOS LIST CVn

Keep this CV for later reference

Last updated: March 16th

CV for: Mr Sylvain Zangiacomi

Gender: Male

Of: Paris, France

Age: 25

Birthday: 25th February

Occupation: Electronic Ingineer

Real Amiga or emulator? 
 Real, definitly real.

How long have you been using an Amiga? 7 years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? 

* An A500+, 68020+68881, 9 meg RAM, HD 1.7Go, ROM 3.1&1.3

* An A1200, 68060+PPC 603e+ 230 MHz, 66 Meg RAM, ROM 3.0, CD 32x
  HD SCSI 4.3 Go, soon BVision

* An other A1200 a little broken...

What is your main Amiga activity? 

Programming games.

How long have you used Amos? 5 years

What version of Amos do you have? 
Amos Pro V2.00 & Amos 1.3

What Amos extensions do you have? 
Turbo, Ercole, Voodoo, EasyLife, Locale, Gui.

Other computer languages used and competence level: 

C++ Good, 
Assembler little,
Turbo Pascal Good.

Amos achievements: 
  
   <game/2play/FightingSpirit.lha>
   <game/2play/ForestFight.lha>
   <game/2play/Duelcity.lha>
   <game/2play/Snacky.lha>
   <game/action/SnackyII.lha>
   <game/think/Demineur.lha>

 soon, SuperDrive.
                              
Amiga achievements: see above

Your Website: sorry, none for now, but one day...

Website recommendations: 
 Amos Factory & Aminet (don't need the URLs)

Other interests/achievements: 
 Judo, juggling.

Your comments: 

 Amiga is the best, how can we survive without it ? 
If someone has any answer...



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>Last updated (date)
17th March 1999

>CV for: (your name)
Rick Pezzimenti

>Gender: (mail, female)
mle

>Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
Chirnside Park, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

>Age:
20

>Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
5th of may

>Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
>forces,unemployed, retired)
AS400 Programmer Business Systems


>Real Amiga or emulator?

Very real

>How long have you been using an Amiga?

7 years

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?

2* A1000
1 A500 2.5meg ram A570 cd-rom 2.04 rom
1 CD32 with sx-1  6 meg ram, 120mb hdd
1 A4000 060/50 ppc604e/233 cvisionppc 80meg ram 32x cd rom 17"monitor
vidi amiga 12 - dss sound sampler

>What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming, Surfing, Generally having fun!



>How long have you used Amos?

6 years

>What version of Amos do you have?

AMOS PRO Version 2 Amos 1.36 Pro compiler


>What Amos extensions do you have?

3D extension

>Other computer languages used and competence level:

C -Just Learning with StormC DSK(IT is really good, buy it!)
AMOS - Fairly good (no 3d stuff though)
RPG/400 - Good
CL - Very Good

>Amos achievements:

Many started projects, none really finished

>Amiga achievements:



>Your Website:
None
>Website recommendations:

www.cucug.org/amiga.html
www.amiga.org
www.ann.lu

>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)

Love Basketball, Football, the pub, Soccer, women, the usual

>Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
>a family audience!)

Keep on punching guys.  I had stopped coding in AMOS for about two
years, but when i got back on the net and saw the AMOS presence and
enthusiasm still in the community, i couldn't help but fire up that
turqoisee screen again.  It's philosophy of minimum effort, maximum,
quick results will never die.  It certainly launched and nurchered my
programming career and i will never forget it or stop supporting it
until i am the last one using it.  I wish i could promote it to my
cvision but alas, i will have to make do.  Don't Give up on AMOS and
above all, never ever give up on the amiga, you WILL miss out on a
huge revolution if you do.


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Lee Hesselden wrote:

>Does anyone know how I can see how many characters are in a variable (the
>one i want  to find out is t$(2). This is for Blitz ][ but it could be the
>same in AMOS,

A=LEN(T$(2)) will do the trick.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 14-Mar-99, Arash Tavakoli wrote:
>Does anybody know what's wrong when I get a "Amos screen not compatible with
>3d" runtime error?

AMOS 3D only does 320X200 (256) screens, 16 colour. Anything else will not
work.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 15-Mar-99, 95LHSC wrote:
>Does anyone know how I can see how many characters are in a variable (the
>one i want  to find out is t$(2). This is for Blitz ][ but it could be the
>same in AMOS,

A=Len(T$(2))

*And* Blitz sucks.

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>>Does anyone know how I can see how many characters are in a variable (the
>>one i want  to find out is t$(2). This is for Blitz ][ but it could be the
>>same in AMOS,
 
> A=Len(T$(2))
Maybe
A=Len(T$(2)-" ") 
to "forget" spaces in the count ?
Maybe this works only with Amos.

> *And* Blitz sucks.

Blitz is a Micro$oft product ?   ;)

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>> *And* Blitz sucks.
>Blitz is a Micro$oft product ?   ;)


Worse.  At least Micro$oft pretend they support their junk and upgrade it
every few days.

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Hello Declan

On 15-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
> 
> Hello Neil,
> 
>> I'm thinking, thats a lot of typing.
> 
> Indeed you could be right but a small price to pay for all the hard work
> put in by Pietro and the rest of the team.

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Amos Listers.
I have designed this form to bring members of the Amos Mailing List closer
together.
Please complete as much of the CV as you want, delete this part of the mail
and return the CV to the list with "<your name> CV" as the subject. Keep a
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Thank you for your cooperation.
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_AMOS LIST CV_

Keep this CV for later reference

Last updated (date)

CV for: (your title and name)

Gender: (mail, female)

Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)

Age:

Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)

Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
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Real Amiga or emulator?

How long have you been using an Amiga?

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?

What is your main Amiga activity?

How long have you used Amos?

What version of Amos do you have?

What Amos extensions do you have?

Other computer languages used and competence level:

Amos achievements:

Amiga achievements:

Your Website:

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 15-Mar-99, Neil Ives wrote:
>Please complete as much of the CV *What the %&@!# is a "CV"?*

>Last updated *October 76th, 1845*

>CV for: *Reverend Giark*

>Gender: *mail? Did you really spell it mail?*

>Of: *Somewhere in the seventh dimension*

>Age: *Old as the hills*

>Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!) *I'd rather have birthday female*

>Occupation: *Quite.*

>Real Amiga or emulator? *Live or Memorex? Sydney or the bush?*

>How long have you been using an Amiga? *Today? Or all together?*

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? *Seven of nine.*

>What is your main Amiga activity? *No, "what" is an interrogative preface
word.*

>How long have you used Amos? *When you say it like that, I feel guilty.
"Using" poor Amos. Or did you mean AMOS?*

>What version of Amos do you have? *All of them.*

>What Amos extensions do you have? *Many and varied.*

>Other computer languages used and competence level: *Is swearing at it when
it locks up considered a language?*

>Amos achievements: *See website http://24.112.23.20/~fbn/*

>Amiga achievements: *Social independence for the Duchy of Giark*

>Your Website: *See signature attached to every message*

>Website recommendations: *Cool website. Check it out. That's a good one.*

>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related) *That's very
democratic of you.*

>Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
>a family audience!) *Which family?*

Well met and godspeed,
                      Rev. Giark
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

  CV for: 
Mr Andrew Crowe
 
  Gender: (mail, female)
mail (yes, I'm an envelope ;)
 (Obviously I mean /male/)

  Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
Hove, E.Sussex, England
 
  Age:
16.8 

  Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
14/5 

  Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
  forces,unemployed, retired)
College 

  Real Amiga or emulator?
Real.

  How long have you been using an Amiga?
Too long

  If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 PPC603e-240mhz + 040-25mhz, 32megs fast, 2.1gig hd, AGA only.
 
  What is your main Amiga activity?
Dunno, college work+programing+mp3 probably. 

  How long have you used Amos?
Too long

  What version of Amos do you have?
Pro V2

  What Amos extensions do you have?
Lots

  Other computer languages used and competence level:
Um, any other basic.
 
  Amos achievements:
Lots a games including 1 winner of Readers Game section in AF.
 
  Amiga achievements:
Not a lot.
 
  Your Website:
Http://members.tripod.com/~MantaSoft/ 

  Website recommendations:
Http://members.tripod.com/~MantaSoft/
 
  Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Sport, um, can't think of any other achievements. 
 
  Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't
  upset a family audience!)
I like work, I can sit and watch it for hours.
 

See ya.
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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
>> 
>> Hello Neil,
>> 
>>> I'm thinking, thats a lot of typing.
>> 
>> Indeed you could be right but a small price to pay for all the hard work
>> put in by Pietro and the rest of the team.

>When my wife wants something done guilt usually does it !!!!

Hehe, now we know you weak spot. ;)

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Hi all,

Hope the Pitfall game is going well.  I`d love to help out, if there`s
something small I can do, like some GFX or som-ink.

While I have your attention, I don`t suppose you know how many radians
are in a circle?  I`ve got it narrowed down to about 6.2 but it`s still
not right.

Andy H.

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_AMOS LIST CV_

Last updated
16 mar 1999

CV for:
Thierry Floquet

Gender:
Ask my wife 8)

Of: 
Lille, France

Age:
33 (I'm *not* OLD!!!)

Birthday:
21 oct.

Occupation:
Employment

Real Amiga or emulator?
Real, of course

How long have you been using an Amiga? 
For years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 + 030/50 + 32Mb fast + HD 3.2Gb + Ateo Tower + CD + MODEM 33.6k

What is your main Amiga activity?
Coding using Amos, Watching Demos

How long have you used Amos?
Since it has been released

What version of Amos do you have?
1.34, Waiting for Apro 2.

What Amos extensions do you have?
none

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Any basic (good skill)
Foxpro (pro skill)
C (absolute beginner)
Cobol (I had pro skill)

Amos achievements:
See my website

Amiga achievements:
Sorry I don't understand the exact meaning of the question
and I don't have my Harrap's here !
(see above : I'm french)

Your Website:
http://members.xoom.com/T_h_y/

Website recommendations:
Nothing particulary

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Music, Star Wars (hummm the Episode 1's trailer in a THX theater)
Amiga, Experiments (3D, stereovision), Video games

Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't
upset a family audience!)
Do you know what you get when you ask Bill Clinton for The Truth, Only
The Truth, All The Truth ?
-> 3 different answers !

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Andy H. wrote:
> While I have your attention, I don`t suppose you know how many radians
> are in a circle?  I`ve got it narrowed down to about 6.2 but it`s still
> not right.

2 x Pi = 2 x 3.141159 = 6.282318 (rounded, Pi has infinity of decimals)
You'd better use DEGREE : 360 degrees !
And like this you can use integers : It's faster !

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From: "David Vivash" <PMA98DAV@sheffield.ac.uk>

_AMOS LIST CV_

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Last updated 16/March/99

CV for: Mr David Arthur Stephen Vivash

Gender: [Insert postage joke here]

Of: Eynesbury. Near Cambridge (sort of). Erm, England.

Age: Nineteen

Birthday: One a year (sometimes twice but that's only to trick people 
into buying me extra presents...)

Occupation: University, loafing

Real Amiga or emulator? Both

How long have you been using an Amiga? 
Um... Since I got an A500 however long ago that was

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 030/50 + 8MB Fast + CD Drive 
Oh yeah, and a printer
(And some other Amigas - A500, A600)

What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming, and I dabble in art. Oh yeah, and I spend hours 
customising GUI's, then deciding the defaults look better anyway.

How long have you used Amos?
Erm, 27 years? Dunno, since it was a CU Amiga coverdisk

What version of Amos do you have?
All the coverdisk versions :)

What Amos extensions do you have?
Extension = Not (all the ones I don't have) 

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Hmm, C: Okay, C++: Okay again, Lisp: Beginner, Java: Okay

Amos achievements:
Done a few games, written some fast code from time to time. Winner of 
an AF Reader game once too (still haven't seen that £50... grrr!)

Amiga achievements:
Um

Your Website:
http://surf.to/a-zone/

Website recommendations:
See above

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Music. Play badminton. Watch Sci Fi stuff. Eat food.

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a family audience!)
Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a 
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A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.

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> Last updated 99-03-16
> 
>CV for:
Magnus Sjöberg

>Gender:
male (At least the last time I checked)

>Of:
Kramfors, Ångermanland, Sweden

>Age:
31

>Birthday:
Januari 29th

>Occupation:
Electric constructor

>Real Amiga or emulator?
REAL! Nothing like the real thing.

>How long have you been using an Amiga?
12 years.

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200-030-882 at 40MHz, 24MB RAM, 85MB HD, 8xCD-ROM
and an old A500, 5MB RAM, 128MB GVP HD.

>What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming and gameing.

>How long have you used Amos?
Since AMOS Pro v2 was released.

>What version of Amos do you have?
AMOS Pro v2.00

>What Amos extensions do you have?
CRAFT, GUI, JD, JD_PRT.

>Other computer languages used and competence level:
AmigaBasic-OK, C-terrible.

>Amos achievements:
Earned some bucks from a time-taking/result program.

>Amiga achievements:
Happy times.

>Your Website:
- 

>Website recommendations:
Everyone that supports the Amiga.

>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Map-making, Orienteering.

>Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
>a family audience!)
Amiga and PC = Heaven and hell.

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Last updated: March 16th

CV for: Mr Ben Jones

Gender: Male
Of: Newport, Wales, UK

Age: 21

Birthday: 26th August

Occupation: Student - Glamorgan University - BSc Computer Studies

Real Amiga or emulator? Both - EMU on a K6-2 300, 64MB Ram, 6.4GB HD, 
Voodoo Banshee Graphics Card.

How long have you been using an Amiga? 7 years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? A600, 2MB Ram, 
540MB HD, WB 2.0

What is your main Amiga activity? Games/Programming

How long have you used Amos? 4 years

What version of Amos do you have? Pro V2.00

What Amos extensions do you have? Turbo, Turbo Plus, others.

Other computer languages used and competence level: C++ Average, 
Assembler Average, Pascal Good.

Amos achievements: Half Done Strategy Game.

Amiga achievements: Same

Your Website: http://members.xoom.com/GamesXTREME

Website recommendations: None Yet :-)

Other interests/achievements: Skiing, Football, Reading, TV, Games, 
STARWARS.

Your comments: AMOS is great, The AMIGA will live forever - If we let it 
die, its gone already.

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Last updated: March 16th

CV for:
Martin Møller

Gender:
Male

Of:
Århus in Denmark

Age:
27

Birthday:
31/8

Occupation:
Sys-admin on two web servers

Real Amiga or emulator?
Both. Emulator = Pentium II at 333MHz, 256MB SD-RAM, 12GB harddrive,
Graphics Blaster Exxtreme 4MB, Sound blaster AWE64, CD-Rom, etc.

How long have you been using an Amiga?
About 10 years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200, 020 at 32MHz, 4MB fast, 4 drives, 1.3GB harddrive, 56K modem (Soon
with a ISDN modem)
And a CD32 a couple of A500, A600 and A1200's

What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming and having fun

How long have you used Amos?
Since AMOS V1.12

What version of Amos do you have?
All from AMOS V1.12 to AMOS Pro 2.0

What Amos extensions do you have?
All i have found so far.

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Amiga assembler, C & E - Beginner, Pascal - REAL beginner, 6502 assembler
(C64) - Average, Perl - Learning, A LOT of different basics - Average

Amos achievements:
I never actually finished any of my programs, to little time! :(
(Well, the programs i wrote for my friends DID get finished!)

Amiga achievements:
Same as above

Your Website:

www.pot.dk

Website recommendations:
For danish people: www.vitsen.dk (I've just started working for them too,
writing CGI programs in Visual Basic 5.)

Other interests/achievements:
Hmm, computers, internet & electronics. Thats pretty much it!

Your comments:
Visual Basic 5 SUCKS! There is NO data statement, and NO peek or poke!
Avoid it like the plague if you can! :)


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>_AMOS LIST CV_
>Keep this CV for later reference
>Last updated (date)

    Today.  Well, if you can't read a date stamp on an email, I'm giving up
and going home.


>CV for: (your title and name)

    Keith Hill, AKA Braneloc.

>Gender: (mail, female)


    Male.  Though if you mail me a female, I'll be happier.

>Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)


    Peterborough England, 52.36, -0.14, 10

>Age:


    Classified.

>Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)


    28/12

>Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
>forces,unemployed, retired)


    Internet Wierdo.  (Yes, you can get paid for that)

>Real Amiga or emulator?


    Both.  I prefer the real one, it's 30 times faster, and crashes less.

>How long have you been using an Amiga?


    Decade or so.

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?


    To sit on the desk next to the peecee and do internet stuff.  Oh, you
mean..  Right.

In front of me: A1200 in a big towery box, 68060 chip, 32meg fast ram,
cybergraphics in a dusty box next to the dusty zorro slots I can't get
workign, a couple of hard drives that are small and work, and a couple of
internal blown up hard drives that are large and don't work, a really slow
20 speed CD rom, one of those SCSI boards that plug into the back of the
68060, a quick modem, and a nice network to the peecee.

To my right, a boring old 68020 based a2000 with no gfx card (yeah, I
probably should), with more hard drives than I can count, about 16 CD ROM
drives, a bit of memory (probably 8 meg fast) and a bunch of other stuff
like a TV card or so.

Above me at a scary angle, a CD32, with 68020 & floppy drive (!)  (ok, it
came as an extra on the A1200, so I plugged it in somewhere it would be
usefull), with plenty of memory, and a hard drive that is exactly big enuf,
plus some kind of network to the A1200 (or is it the peecee, can't
rememebr), and it has a lovely graphics tablet attached to it, genlock, and
other stuff.

Next to the bed is the A500 which has a massive 2 meg expansion box on the
side, and a serial cable ggoing to god knows where.  I think it attaches to
the A2000, but I'm not sure any more.

In a box in the hall are the genlocks, video digitizers (b/w, colour),
robotics drivers, midi interfaces, old modems, old hard drives, old scsi
cards, and a whole bunch of other stuff I can't remember.

>What is your main Amiga activity?


Oh dear.

A1200 - Internet publishing, and mostly graphics and web page editing these
days.
CD32  - Dust gathering, and notepad with graphics tablet.  Electronic paper.
Night light.  Umm, remind me to use it again.
A2000 - Dust gathering, and BBS system.  Remind me to do SOMETHING with it.
PS: The moniter on it blew up a few months ago.
A500  - Dust gathering and games when I get a chance to remmeber it exists.

>How long have you used Amos?


Yonks.

>What version of Amos do you have?


Err, almost certianly AmosPro2.0

>What Amos extensions do you have?


Less than I had before the crash.  I used to have many, many, many of them
installed, but now its a very select few.  Probably less than that.

>Other computer languages used and competence level:


Oh dear.  Most of them.  Yeah, at least competant..

>Amos achievements:
>Amiga achievements:


I hate stuff like this.  Err, stuff.  Loads of stuff.  Megs and megs of
stuff.

>Your Website:


    http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk/

>Website recommendations:


    What, there are others ?  Most of the ones I design are boring
sales/marketing ones that no-onme would be interested in.  I don't make any
money from telling you.

>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)


    AD&D - Seriously, my DM skills are legendary.  I'm currently workign on
a massive campaign world conversion to the computer.  If I ever get the time
to finish it.  It will be available on either peecee or amiga, or if you are
lucky, both.  It's a LONG term project.

>Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
>a family audience!)


Won't upset ?  Oh dear.  I wish I could support the amiga more than I do.  I
still use my amiga on a regular basis, but since the crash and moving my
email to the peecee, I use it considerably less.  I currently still use the
amiga and peecee as one unit, with the amiga editing directly from the
peecee, and use them as a fully integrated system.  There are still some
things that the amiga does better than the peecee, and no matter how much
money you spend on the damn things, they are still more annoying.  Now if
the amiga emulator was about 30 times quicker, I would be a lot happier and
buy a laptop peecee to just run amiga stuff.

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_AMOS LIST CV_

Keep this CV for later reference

Last updated (date)

CV for: Declan Gorman

Gender: Male

Of: Kildare Town, Ireland.

Age: 28

Birthday: 29/05

Occupation: Employed

Real Amiga or emulator?
A Real Amiga.

How long have you been using an Amiga?
About 10 years.

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 030 @ 30MHz, 16Meg Fast Ram, 2 drives, 250MB harddrive, CD-ROM Drive,
28.8K Modem.

What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming & Music.

How long have you used Amos?
Since it's very first release.

What version of Amos do you have?
Amos Pro V2.0

What Amos extensions do you have?
All but only use a couple, mainly GUI Extension.

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Pascal from my college days, competence : can't remember.
Cobol : basic
C : Basic
Arexx : Basic to Intermediate

Amos achievements:
Midi Companion
W-Lib

Amiga achievements:
Getting my A1200 online at home.

Your Website:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html
http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/midi_com.htm

Website recommendations:
http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Music/Midi, TV, Everton FC,

Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
a family audience!)
I am genuinely looking forward to the new release of AmosPro and think it is
probably the most exciting thing to happen with Amos since the release of
sliced bread.


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there are 2 * PI radians in a circle (PI = 4 * ATAN(1))


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 > _AMOS LIST CV_
> 
> Keep this CV for later reference
> 
> Last updated (date)
> 
> CV for: (your title and name)
Steve Eaborn (Mr)
> 
> Gender: (mail, female)
Male (R there any females?)
> 
> Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
Birmingham, England.
> 
> Age:
'$021' (again)
> 
> Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
8th Feb
> 
> Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
> forces,unemployed, retired)
Employed.
> 
> Real Amiga or emulator?
The genuine article.
> 
> How long have you been using an Amiga?
Years.
> 
> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
'030 12Mb HD.
> 
> What is your main Amiga activity?
Using Amos and surfing/Email.
> 
> How long have you used Amos?
Since it came out.
> 
> What version of Amos do you have?
Pro V2
> 
> What Amos extensions do you have?
Just the standard ones: music, compiler, etc.
> 
> Other computer languages used and competence level:
Various Basics (Good), 8-bit Machine Code/Assembler (6502/Z80) (Long time
ago), Cobol (Poor), PL/SQL (OK), Powerhouse (OK), C (OK), Pro*C (OK)
> 
> Amos achievements:
MrE's Compendium (AF Game of the Month, Readers' Vote)
WiZiO (AF Game of the Month)
WiZ² (Coming Soon...)
> 
> Amiga achievements:
??
> 
> Your Website:
None, yet.
> 
> Website recommendations:
Ooo, too many to mention. All the Amiga ones for sure. Moo Bunny's good.
> 
> Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Reading all of the Discworld novels.
> 
> Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't
upset
> a family audience!) 
Amiga - Live Long and Prosper \\//,


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Hiya,

Does anyone in the UK know of someone selling an A4000? Or a tower system for
an A1200.

Cheers,

Jono


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From: Christopher Kossa <abattoir@erols.com>

_AMOS LIST CV_

Last updated: 16-Mar-99

CV for: Mr. Christopher Kossa

Gender: Male

Of: Clifton, NJ USA

Age: 22

Birthday: 5-Dec-76

Occupation: College, and unused space

Real Amiga or emulator?
  The one and only real thing.

How long have you been using an Amiga? 
  Since June 93.  Wow!  And I didn't have to go through 3 new motherboards
to keep up with the latest hardware/processors. :)

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
  1)  Amiga 4000T. Cyberstorm 060/50+604e/200, 144 Fast, Picasso IV,
Conceirto, Buhhda/Catweasle, Multiface III, A4066 Ethernet, 4.3 Gigs HD,
32x CD-Rom, LS-120, ZIP, UMAX 12000S scanner, and CD-RW.. Plus a killer 17'
Monitor. :)
  2)  Amiga 1200, GVP 030/50, 8 Fast, 210 Megs HD (Grandmother got it for
me, so this one will never be junked/sold!)

What is your main Amiga activity?
  Surfing the net, school work, and trying to get AMOS to run .

How long have you used Amos?
  about 5 years

What version of Amos do you have?
  the latest one

What Amos extensions do you have?
  AMCAF (Reg), LDos, LSerial, Turbo, JD Exts

Other computer languages used and competence level:
  Pascal, not really much in C/C++.  I guess Arexx.

Amos achievements:
  violent Nibbles clone, VoyagerNG Cache cleaner, and never finishing any
project I started.

Amiga achievements:
  proving to people that those "an old" machines can do almost anything that
a MAC or PC can.  

Your Website:
  a horrible waste of web space!  http://www.erols.com/abattoir/

Website recommendations:
  http://www.go2net.com/index_power.html
  
Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
  Drawing, playing (or more like trying to play) guitar and drums, and
sleeping.
  
Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
a family audience!)
  I think AMOS is a great programming language and enviroment.  I rather try
working around some AMOS quirks and bug than try to program in a dull text
editor.  AMOS is kinda fun to work with.  Hope the new verison will be
similar.      

-- 
...Chris
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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

G'Day Neil
Yeah, I've seen how everyone's mucking about with this (fun I know), but Neil
seems to really want this info, so I'll fill it out 'properly'
On 16-Mar-99, Neil Ives wrote:

> _AMOS LIST CV_
> 
> Keep this CV for later reference
> 
> Last updated 17 Mar 99
> CV for: Rod Whiteley
> 
> Gender: (mail, female)
> M
> Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
> Sydney
> Age:
> 32 (!)
> Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
> 5/1/67
> Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
> forces,unemployed, retired)
> Physiotherapist
> Real Amiga or emulator?
> Real
> How long have you been using an Amiga?
> Since the A500 (whenever that was)
> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
> A1200, '030+FPU, SCSI+Zip, 16MFast
> What is your main Amiga activity?
> I use it at work
> How long have you used Amos?
> Since the first demoversion
> What version of Amos do you have?
> Pro2
> What Amos extensions do you have?
> The ones I use are AMCAF, JD, and of course the wonderful GUIExt
> Other computer languages used and competence level:
> Beginner C, I used to be pretty competant machine language for the 6502
(Apple ][)
> Amos achievements:
> Hmmm, jujst the accounting prog that I use here at work
> Amiga achievements:
> Using an Amiga in businesss, that must be something of a rarity 
> Your Website:
> None
> Website recommendations:
> My recommendation is to gedt some updates to the Amos site ;-)
> Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
> Hmmm...I like chess,  Rugby Union, and Rugby League
> Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
> a family audience!)
> Amos needs a MUI initerface, and soon
>
Regards
Rod Whiteley
-- 
Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy.



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Last updated: 16/03/99

CV for: Chris Coulson

Gender: Male

Of: Slough, England

Age: 25

Birthday: 20th July

Occupation: Embedded control engineer

Real Amiga or emulator? 
 Both

How long have you been using an Amiga? 
 11 years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? 
 A4000, KS3.1, 2MB Chip, 48MB Fast, CS060, CyberSCSI, CV64, Micronik  
 scandoubler, 3.1GB IDE HD, SCSI Zip, SCSI 4xCD, VLab Y/C, CTX 1785S  
 17" monitor

What is your main Amiga activity?
 Website design

How long have you used Amos?
 Since whenever it was first released :-)

What version of Amos do you have?
 Classic 1.36 + compiler, Pro 2

What Amos extensions do you have?
 3D, Turbo, Intuition, GUI, LSerial

Other computer languages used and competence level:
 Turbo Pascal (good), C (good), 68k asm (average), 8051 asm (good),
 Javascript (average)

Amos achievements:
 Several million (only a *slight* exaggeration :-) map editors
 Team Yankee datafile editor
 Agfa/Epson/Olympus digicam utility (ongoing)

Amiga achievements:
 Two MathScript enhancements
 Several reviews for the c.s.a.r newsgroup
 Beta tester for F1GP-Editor and Amipeg

Your Website:
 http://www.tornado.pair.com/

Website recommendations:
 http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
 Military aviation (real and simulated)
 DVDs
 Website design


Chris

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P166 32MB/4GB/MilleniumII/EncoreDXR2/2xDVD/WinTV/SB16/Zip
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	hey does anybody know a way to sample just one sample in one
voice?
	Sam Loop On loops all future samples, but what if only want to
loop one sample in one voice, like to have a drum loop play in background
while a sound effects go off.  

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
				Chicago, IL USA

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>_AMOS LIST CV_
>
>Keep this CV for later reference
>

>Last updated (date)
17th March 1999

>CV for: (your title and name)
James Brown (AKA Ender)

>Gender: (mail, female)
mail

>Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
Hobart, -1, Tasmania, -1, -1, Australia

>Age:
16

>Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
22nd Feburary

>Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
>forces,unemployed, retired)

school

>Real Amiga or emulator?

Both :) (Usually Real)

>How long have you been using an Amiga?

Umm... Err... N/A

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?

Amiga 500, 1 meg chip 0 fast, Kick 1.2, No H/D
Amiga 500, 512k chip, 512k fast, Kick 1.3, No H/D :(

>What is your main Amiga activity?

Umm.. I must confess, I've only used it for games lately :)

>How long have you used Amos?

N/A :)

>What version of Amos do you have?

AmosPRO 2 and some other really old version I have on disk somewhere...

>What Amos extensions do you have?

Oh, all of them. Most need Ks2 and dont run tho :)

>Other computer languages used and competence level:
C/C++ - Reasonable Competence
VB5 (PC! Noo!!!) - Fairly Competent. Exp. with DirectX and Win32 API

>Amos achievements:
>Amiga achievements:

None ever finished, many started.

>Your Website:
>
>Website recommendations:
>
>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
>
>Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
>a family audience!)

Alas... If only there would be a new Amiga...


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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

_AMOS LIST CV_

Last updated - 16 March 1999

CV for: Andy Kellett, Mushroom Software Owner

Gender: Male

Place Of Birth: Manchester, England. Now Residing in Pennsylvanie, USA

Age: 22

Birthday: November 4

Occupation: Staples Tech Center Advisor & Lead, Store #138
	     Mushroom Software, Sole proprieter & Operator
	                        Computer Repairs, Internet Lessons,
				    Tech Support 

Real Amiga or emulator?  Both. A1200, A3000 and IBM Thinkpad 385XD & Amiga
Forever

How long have you been using an Amiga? Close to 5 years

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?

A1200:  28Mhz A1200, placed in PC Tower. 4Mb FAST, 2 chip, 2.1Gb HD,
Scandoubler,
	 Networked to 3 other PC's in my business.
A3000:  25Mhz, 100Mb SCSI HD, Flicker fixer & Scandoubler

What is your main Amiga activity? Programming. Main project, is the
Foundation Mailinglist software.

How long have you used Amos? 5 Years

What version of Amos do you have? Every version released

What Amos extensions do you have? I own a copy of almost all, but use
mainly GUI and AMCAF in my work.

>Other computer languages used and competence level: Visual Basic
(beginner), C (beginner), Blitz Basic (Average), HTML (Advanced)

Amos achievements:
Extreme AMOS Issue's 2 and 3 Engine & Articles
Twinz & Twinz Pro
MPDMailpost (Mass Mailer program)
MPD Linear Sys (3D Linear Rotation Device)
Hi-Score morphing routine used in Captain Bubba
Complete AMOS Anthology for Texture Mapping Routines
Cliffhanger (hang-man style game)
NADS Puzzle Games (14 in all)
Newsgroup Sifter (AMOS Program downloads newsgroups and posts messages to
specified criteria groups)
Multiple Tracker & Sample Format Recognition Routines in AMOS
Over 20 Tracker Demo's
26-Tune Chip Demo (Does anyone have this? Mine is busted)
GUI Assigner Program
Mailinglist Maintainer (Runs the Foundation Mailing List)
Multiple POP3 and SMTP delivery/recovery Routines
Encryption Software for Email
EXE2Data (Hide EXE's in Data Statements)
Custom GUI Designer & Operation Routines (Used in EA 3)
Customized Stonecracker Decruncher
Partial Target; Renegade Clone (never finished)
MMPlay CLI (Full based AMOS-CLI music player)
Titchyplay (Less featured version of MMPlay)
GUI Extension Docs & Examples (V 1.6)
Phonebook V3
Disk Manager
IBrowse Picture Spooler (Done in AMOS!)
Numerous Music & Graphic Demo's

Amiga achievements:
Mushroom PD - Largest AMOS Collection Online
Foundation Mailing List (Ran with a program written in AMOS!)
MPDMailpost - Often used to mass-spam PC Products (I have complaints to
prove it!!)
F1 Software USA - US Distributors of F1 and 5D Licenseware, as well as Pre-
                 Foundation titles by Paul Burkey.

Your Website:
http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

Website recommendations:
www.amiga.org - Amiga News Site

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Travel to many Amiga shows & Events around the country
Web & FTP Hosting for all to use


--
  *Mushroom Software* - The largest Amiga Licenseware company in the
Eastern US
carrying exclusively the F1 Software & 5D Titles from the UK. We also carry
titles    from software author's such as Paul Burkey. See our webpage for
more info!!

                      Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk
                      FTP:  ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/
                     Contact: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
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Hi Everybody,

   Now that there are lots of CVs floating around on the list, is someone
going to enter them all onto a web page somewhere etc, or are we just going
to leave them in a huge heap on the floor?  (figure of speech btw.)

See ya.
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> _AMOS LIST CV_
> 
> Keep this CV for later reference
> 
> Last updated:  17.3.99	
> 
> CV for: Arda Öncü
> 
> Gender: Male
> 
> Of: Istanbul, Turkiye
> 
> Age: 24
> 
> Birthday: 29/01
> 
> Occupation:  university
> 
> Real Amiga or emulator? Real Amiga.
> 
> How long have you been using an Amiga? About 10 years
> 
> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? A1200 030/30 16M
fast, 640MB HDD, 24xCDROM, 33600 Modem
> 
> What is your main Amiga activity? Programming.
> 
> How long have you used Amos? 5 years
> 
> What version of Amos do you have? AmosPro (AmigaFormat Version)
> 
> What Amos extensions do you have? All, but I use only GUI extension.
> 
> Other computer languages used and competence level: Visual Basic (OK), C
(beginner), Pascal (Average), Delphi (Average)
> 
> Amos achievements: Dividler (game), Picture2ascii (converter), amila
(e-mail client) and many others.
> 
> Amiga achievements: Bugfixing and proofreading of Amiga Inc. supported
Turkish Workbench.
> 
> Your Website: Http://members.xoom.com/apm/amiga
> 
> Website recommendations: www.amigart.com  (Turkish Amiga User Group)
> 
> Other interests/achievements: Cinema, Computergames.
> 
> Your comments: I love Amiga and AMOS.



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From: "floquet" <floquet@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr>

> From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
> 
>         hey does anybody know a way to sample just one sample in one
> voice?
>         Sam Loop On loops all future samples, but what if only want to
> loop one sample in one voice, like to have a drum loop play in background
> while a sound effects go off.

No way. But there is a solution:
Create an empty sample (let's say it will be sample #1)
Store somewhere in tables the durations,
the current timers, and the current voice for each sample.
Set sam loop to on, play your drum loop.
When you play a sample, make:
TB_TIMER(numsample)=TB_DURATION(numsample)
TB_VOICE(numsample)=<the_voice_yoy_want>
Sam Play TB_VOICE(numsample),<your sample>
(...code...)
for i=1 to <number_of_samples>
	if TB_TIMER(i)>0
		Dec TB_TIMER(i)
		If TB_TIMER(i)=0
			Sam play TB_VOICE(i),1
		Endif
	endif
Next

***************

Add some blank space at the end of each sample, in case of some
timing errors : on slow machines, maybe you will loose some Vbl's
and the sample will loop again before being cut.

I use a blank sample to interrupt a note currently played when
user releases a key on his synth (MIDI), it works fine.

Hope this helps.
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I've found another solution while eatin' this noon:
Set sam loop to OFF, and when you need your drum loop to start just use
the EVERY statement to perform it at the right timing !
It is a better way to do the trick than my previous message.

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From: David Brian Hayes <dbh02@students.stir.ac.uk>

I found a problem using the every statement though;

I was writing an application in AMOS Interface (I have Pro 2.*). As it was a
program which displayed basically the same screen forever, I decided to
write a screensaver, which I did. It uses the every statement to check the
timings etc... But I found that when I incorporated it into the Interface
program, it just seemed to crash. This was before I update my Amos libraries
to correct other problems that I had, but as I have deleted the faulty
program, I cannot say whether this a general fault to ALL versions of AMOS,
or just earlier versions.

In a nutshell: Be Careful With the EVERY statement.

floquet wrote:

> From: "floquet" <floquet@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr>
>
> I've found another solution while eatin' this noon:
> Set sam loop to OFF, and when you need your drum loop to start just use
> the EVERY statement to perform it at the right timing !
> It is a better way to do the trick than my previous message.
>
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> David Brian Hayes <dbh02@students.stir.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>I found a problem using the every statement though;

>I was writing an application in AMOS Interface (I have Pro 2.*). As it was
a
>program which displayed basically the same screen forever, I decided to
>write a screensaver, which I did. It uses the every statement to check the
>timings etc... But I found that when I incorporated it into the Interface
>program, it just seemed to crash. This was before I update my Amos
libraries
>to correct other problems that I had, but as I have deleted the faulty
>program, I cannot say whether this a general fault to ALL versions of AMOS,
>or just earlier versions.

>In a nutshell: Be Careful With the EVERY statement.

True. I've used the EVERY command quite a lot together with AMOS Interface.
What I've learnt is that using a lower value than 5 in ON EVERY x ... will
make the program unstable if you have a slow machine.

And if you use EVERY OFF you're also up for trouble. It seems like
if the program is about to trigger an EVERY interrupt when the EVERY OFF
command is executed you'll be granted a crash.
Solution: Use a flag to block the reactivation (EVERY ON) at the end of
your EVERY-called routine.

Doing this I've no longer any problems with EVERY and related crashes.

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>   Now that there are lots of CVs floating around on the list, is someone
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From: Steve Eaborn <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>

Hello Scooter

You need to turn on sam looping, then turn off the voices you don't want
looped as follows...

sam loop on

sam loop off %1101

sam play %0010,1 : rem this will loop

sam play %0001,1 : rem this won't

I'm not sure if this is documented anywhere, but it works.
Beware though, the 'Sam Loop Off' command magically turns into 'Sam Loop On'
in the editor, so if you edit it, you need to change it back to 'Sam Loop
Off' to work !

Cheers,


> From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
> 
> 
>     hey does anybody know a way to sample just one sample in one
> voice?
>     Sam Loop On loops all future samples, but what if only want to
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> while a sound effects go off.  
> 
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Hi,
Does anybody on this list know how to handle modems in Amos? I'm trying to
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>_AMOS LIST CV_

>CV for:
Mr Leto Kauler

>Gender: (mail, female)
Mail? Male!

>Of:
Coningham, Tasmania, Australia

>Age:
19

>Birthday:
28.Dec.79

>Occupation:
Unemployed.... student at TAFE

>Real Amiga or emulator?
Two real Amigas.... well.... underpowered, but REAL ;)

>How long have you been using an Amiga?
9 or 10 years

>If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 - 020 - 10Mb RAM - 40Mb HD - HiDensity floppy - 33.6 Modem
A500 - doesn't count (much)

>What is your main Amiga activity?
Gaming, GFX, Net

>How long have you used Amos?
since 1994 (i think)

>What version of Amos do you have?
Amos Pro 1.3

>What Amos extensions do you have?
I really don't know.... Turbo perhaps... maybe Craft

>Other computer languages used and competence level:
HTML: pretty good.... Javascript: basic.... Pascal: Basic
Unix: basic

>Amos achievements:
explosiveCHAOS  (game/demo/echaos.lha)
Sequel in progress!!

>Amiga achievements:
Spreading the word that Amiga is the best. Getting Mac friends to
use an Amiga emulator (and love it!)

>Your Website:
<http://surf.to/starfish>
<http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/4280> if above fails

>Website recommendations:
Aminet! hehe -- <www.modarchive.com>

>Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Reading, mountain-biking

>Your comments:
Just to say thanks for a good Amos list. Altho, sometimes a little
off-topic ;)   (which is ok)... it's really good to be able to get
help when needed and to know that the Amiga really is a FANTASTIC
machine!

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On 20-Mar-99, Rev. Giark To You wrote:
>From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

>On 19-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>>I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone have
>>it?

>You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.

The Compiler wont compile it, its too big.
The source needs 1meg of a text buffer in the editor
and the compiler just crashes

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 16-Mar-99, Scooter D. Matott sXe wrote:
>hey does anybody know a way to sample just one sample in one
>voice?

Sam Loop On
Sam Loop Off %1110

Now only voice %0001 will loop.

Well met and godspeed,
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Hi Everybody,

> Hi,
> Does anybody on this list know how to handle modems in Amos? I'm trying to
> write a program which will dial a BBS and get my mail. The only problem is
> that i don't  know how to get the modem to dial, I have sent 'atdt 01xxx
> xxxxxx' to the modem but it doesn't dial the number. Is there some sort of
> setup string i need to send?
> Thanks!

You have to send CR+LF to the modem, like your pressing return.

I think (dont quote me on it) you do "adtd 01xxxxxxxxx"+chr$(10)+chr$(13)


I've writen a working modem program so if that doesn't work I'll dig it up
and see how it was done...

See ya.
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From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>

_AMOS LIST CV_
 
Keep this CV for later reference
 
Last updated (17/3/99)
 
CV for: Lee Marchment
 
Gender: Male 
 
Of: Whitby, North Yorkshire, England
 
Age: 15 9 mths

Birthday: 10th June '83

Occupation: school

Real Amiga or emulator? Only the real thing of course!
 
How long have you been using an Amiga? oooooh about half my life! really!
 
If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
    A!200 030/50Mhz 33Mhz FPU, 18MB Ram, 36X CR ROM, 540MB Hard Drive and a
modem of course!.

What is your main Amiga activity?
 Programming, Mp3's Sampling and being in bits usualy.

How long have you used Amos? About 5 years, I think.

What version of Amos do you have? Amos Pro 2

What Amos extensions do you have? Most Of Them

Other computer languages used and competence level: HTML (beginner)
 
Amos achievements:
 Just loads of crap that I only seem to use. 
 and a few BBS doors:
 InstantMessy,
 UserMenu,
 Spin2Win. 

Amiga achievements:
 Being the only person in our school to actually know about amigas.

Your Website:
 not yet! I'm working on it!

Website recommendations:
 www.amiga.org - kewl!
 www.audiofind.com - loads of mp3's

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
 Play guitar in punk'ish band.
 
Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
a family audience!)

I really do hate comments sections, I never fill them in..... doh!

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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>



--- Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>
> 
> Hi,
> Does anybody on this list know how to handle modems
> in Amos? I'm trying to
> write a program which will dial a BBS and get my
> mail. The only problem is
> that i don't  know how to get the modem to dial, I
> have sent 'atdt 01xxx
> xxxxxx' to the modem but it doesn't dial the number.
> Is there some sort of
> setup string i need to send?
> Thanks!


Lee i got the very basic source code to a BBS prog in amos that i`m sure
if you hack to pieces you could find the modem settings !!!

you want it ???
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_AMOS LIST CV_
 
Keep this CV for later reference
OK
 
Last updated 
17/3/99
 
CV (means Curriculum Vitae = Resume) for: 
Neil Ives

Gender: 
Male
(I spose I could pretend I spelt it mail for a joke!)

Of: 
Malvern, Worcestershire, UK. 
(where Morgan automobiles are made)

Age:
%110001
(I know, I don't look that old)

Birthday: 
2nd Feb

Occupation: 
British Telecom (BT) Planning Officer 
(look, someone's gotta own up that they work for BT)

Real Amiga or emulator?
Real. 2 x A1200 + A500
 
How long have you been using/abusing an Amiga?
9 years
 
If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200 - Multisync monitor - 040/50Mhz accelerator - 32Mb memory - Zip drive
- Surf Squirrel -
CDrom - 200M hard disk - 36k modem
 
What are your main Amiga activities?
Fiddling with the setup of my Amiga to make it even nicer to use, visiting
the Amos list, AMOS, Animation, Scala, Internet 
 
How long have you used Amos?
Since it came out, 7 years?
 
What version of Amos do you have?
Original, now use AmosPro 2 + Compiler
 
What Amos extensions do you have?
GUI Extension
 
Other computer languages used and competence level:
AmigaBasic (by Microsoft, and it showed), learning. 
AMOS, not bad at the basics
AREXX, learning

Amos achievements:
Self taught from the excellent AMOS manuals. A couple of competent games,
but not original. 
Lots of enjoyment.
 
Amiga achievements:
Really nicely set up system with New icons and Glow Icons with many other
patches that bring my Miggy into the 21st Century.
Infra Rexx unit built and working. Parnet link to second Amiga.
Scala script called from Startup Sequence to run DPaint anim with
music.
Getting on the Net and finding the AMOS list has removed that feeling of
isolation in a world of PC owners.
Lots of enjoyment.

Your Website:
Not ready for viewing yet

Website recommendations:
www.AmigaCentral.com
www.AmigaSoc.com

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Being a Father for the last 20 years. I have 3 children that anyone would be
proud of. Dinghy Sailing. Walking. Cycling 20 miles every weekday.
Beautiful women, (thats an interest, not an achievment). My 1929 Austin 7
car. Pink Floyd's music. Food. The movie, Blade Runner.
 
Your comments:
I use a Windows NT PC at work. Yeh ok, MS software is very powerful, I love
using Excel. But the machine is so 'unfriendly', and it locks up
frequently. I find it relaxing to come home and sit at the Amiga. It still
feels more modern than the PC.
When (lets be optimistic) the new Amiga comes out it will have to be able to
read & run PC software as that has become the de facto standard, (God help
us).
I guess emulation will be the name of the game, It may emulate a 680xx
Amiga if were lucky. 
The World needs a better Personal Computer than the existing PC, Amiga
owners know the difference. Why shouldn't the new Amiga be the one? 
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On 17-Mar-99, Lee Marchment wrote:

>Does anybody on this list know how to handle modems in Amos?

Yep.

>that i don't  know how to get the modem to dial, I have sent 'atdt 01xxx
>xxxxxx' to the modem but it doesn't dial the number. Is there some sort of
>setup string i need to send?

You need to open the port at the right speed, set the transfer bits, set the
buffer, all that rot. And you still may need to send an atz before any other
commands.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Rev. Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
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Hi Everybody,

   So far here's the current 4 player adapter code I've got.

I've had conflicting reports about the fire button though.... 



If you have a 4 player adapter, could you run this little program and see if
it works. 

If it does then you can all go and add 4 player adapter support to your
games ;)

(Of corce, if it doesn't work then by all means please try to fix it ;)

See ya.
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Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="4player.asc"

'
'    Working? 4 player adapter code... 
'
' andrewcrowe@enterprise.net 
'


Print At(0,4);"   L R U D F"

Do 
   
   L=0 : R=0 : U=0 : D=0 : F=0
   P1=255-Peek($BFE101)
   P2=255-Peek($BFD000)
   If P1 and 1
      U=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 2
      D=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 4
      L=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 8
      R=-1
   End If 
   
   If P2 and 4
      F=-1
   End If 
   
   Print At(0,0);1;L;R;U;D;F;"  "
   
   
   
   L=0 : R=0 : U=0 : D=0 : F=0
   P1=255-Peek($BFE101)
   P2=255-Peek($BFD000)
   If P1 and 16
      U=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 32
      D=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 64
      L=-1
   End If 
   If P1 and 128
      R=-1
   End If 
   If P2 and 1
      F=-1
   End If 
   
   Print At(0,2);2;L;R;U;D;F;"  "
   
   
Loop 

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_AMOS LIST CV_

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CV for: Simon Walker
 
Gender: Male 
  
Of: Bristol, England. Originally Southampton, England  

Age: 19 

Birthday: 20/11/79

Occupation: Uni Student

Real Amiga or emulator? Real
  
How long have you been using an Amiga? Since late 1989

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200, '030 50Mhz, 16mb fast, 127mb HD, S.doubler/f.fixer
A500, 1 mb ram. (used only to play AGA incompatible games now!)

What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming in Amos, and gaming.

How long have you used Amos? Since it was first released

What version of Amos do you have? The first version of AmosPro...1.3?
 
What Amos extensions do you have? Craft, and a couple of others - not 
sure which!
 
Other computer languages used and competence level: Blitz (didn't rate 
it) - beginner.
  
Amos achievements:
None of any note. Made a few things that I use myself, but nothing of 
note. Lots of unfinished projects (of course).

Amiga achievements:
None worth mentioning!

Your Website:
Nope.
 
Website recommendations:
www.saintsfc.co.uk - I am a Southampton FC fan!!
 
Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Beer, footie(soccer), pub, drinking.
  
Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't 
upset a family audience!)
Erm, Amos is real easy to use, and way better than any equivalent 
language given its expandability (extensions etc). 
I also hope that Gateway/Amiga Tech publicise AmigaNG enough to ensure 
it sells well. Otherwise there's no point.


Simon

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Gender: Male


Of: Rauma, Finland


Age: 24


Birthday: 25th March


Occupation: Student of Educational Sciences


Real Amiga or emulator? Real.


How long have you been using an Amiga?  Since 1988.


If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification? An A1200/120Mb - yes I know, pretty sad:|


What is your main Amiga activity? Programming. 


How long have you used Amos? 6 years.


What version of Amos do you have? Amos 1.36


What Amos extensions do you have? EasyLife & Ercole.


Other computer languages used and competence level: 

C++ (only on windoze at the mo)  	-good

Visual Basic						-good

Blitz Basic							-good	

Assembler							-learning forever;)

Pascal								-understand



Amos achievements:  N/A - ok, Hooked on Aminet (it doesn't work 
properly however)


Amiga achievements: Lots of stuff in my drawer:P


Your Website: N/A


Website recommendations: You know all the best...


Other interests/achievements: Arts, music, wife & daughter, 
dreaming of making a really good game.


Your comments: New Miggy -> "The Chip" -> HDTV -> 400 million 
textured polygons/s -> 4 parallel mpeg players -> Dolby Surround -
> Where is Amos on that platform?




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Check out http://www.futurenet.com/amiganet/classified/forum_frameset.htm

or any of the following vendors......

Eyetech -> http://www.eyetech.co.uk

Power Computing -> http://www.powerc.com/amiga_index.html

Blittersoft -> http://www.blittersoft.com

Declan.

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Hiya,

Does anyone in the UK know of someone selling an A4000? Or a tower system
for
an A1200.

Cheers,

Jono


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Last updated (date)
18/03/99

CV for: (your title and name)
Rune Keller

Gender: (mail, female)
M

Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
Sporup, Denmark

Age:
20

Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
20/05/78

Occupation: (school, college, university, employment, armed
forces,unemployed, retired)
I actually review games (Playstation/N64) for a living... :) Also some DTP and
HTML design work.

Real Amiga or emulator?
Real.

How long have you been using an Amiga?
Since 1987 or something.

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A4000, 060, PPC604e/200, 128MB RAM, 30GB HD, VLab Motion video, Toccata sound,
CyberVisionPPC, laserprinter, scanner, modem, cd-burner... loads of stuff...
Additional 2*A4000, A2000, CDTV, CD32 but they ain't used alot...

What is your main Amiga activity?
Internet (mails and HTML designing), writing (articles and screenplays...
soon...), coding.

How long have you used Amos?
Since the first release.

What version of Amos do you have?
All of them.

What Amos extensions do you have?
All common.

Other computer languages used and competence level:
C16 BASIC - OK :)
Amiga Basic - Poor
Visual Basic - OK
HTML - Good
Amos - Good

Amos achievements:
Loads of unfinished code. Some finished too. Mostly small utils, but a couple
of finished games too (X-Mas Time, World Conflict). Also some demos.

Amiga achievements:
I always manage to get PC-owners impressed by the work I do and leaving them
with a stupid-looking face, when telling I'm using an Amiga :) Well, actually
most people here are former Amiga owners and sort of dream back to that time
and wish they could get rid of Gates, Windows, BIOS, DOS and all that PC-stuff
:)

Your Website:
http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc21504
http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory
http://sng.solgames.dk

Website recommendations:
The above :)

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
Movies, soccer

Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
a family audience!)
May our continuing support for Amos and Amiga pay off someday :)

-- 
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	Super Pac Mania v3 is out, just sent it to my list of folks who
asked for it the 1rst time, if you didn't get it and want to let me know!
	
	Thanks to Steve (I think) for the Sam Loop Off %1010 trick,
	it did the job alright, and you were right, editor likes to turn
it into Sam Loop On for some reason, my secret was to zip up the proc to
hide it from the dirty editor when testing.  Anyway, thanks a bundle for
that trick as it made it possible for me to use short samples and also to
have different power pellet times for different levels.  
	All in all SPMania is rock solid now, I mean I hate to say it but
I've actually become terribly proud of it since these changes, so well if
you guys would like to burst my bubble go right ahead, at any rate let me
know what you all think.

peace out,
	Scott Matott sXe
	Chicago, IL USA

I don't want no tutti-frutti, no lollipop
Oh, come on baby, just rock, rock, rock
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Try setting the transfer rate to 31250bps. This should clear up almost all your
problems... If not try the following tech page...

http://www.hinton.demon.co.uk/hintmidi.html
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

_AMOS LIST CV_
Keep this CV for later reference
Last updated on March 18, 1999

CV for: Adam Parrott
Gender: Male
Of: Trophy Club, Texas, US

Age: 17 and 6 mos.
Birthday: 09-15-81

Occupation: High School, about to enter College

Real Amiga or emulator?  Real, although I run WinUAE on my PC (which is a
Gateway G6-450, Pii-450 with 128MB SDRAM, 9GB HD, nVidia Riva TNT, STB
Voodoo2 Blackmagic 3D card, SoundBlaster AudioPCI 64D, 5x/DVD, 32x/CD, 56k)

How long have you been using an Amiga?
Since I was about 9 (that would be around 1990)

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A2000 'o4o/25, ECS, 1MB Chip, 16MB Fast, 500MB HD, 105MB/SyQuest, WB2/3
(also have a stock A3000 'o3o/25 and a stock A500 68k that I don't use) :/

What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming, games, and almost nothing else.

How long have you used Amos?
Since Pro was released (mid-1993)

What version of Amos do you have?
AMOS Pro v2.01 and AMOS Pro Compiler

What Amos extensions do you have?
AMCAF (registered)
AMOS-3D (coverdisk)
Craft (coverdisk)
Turbo Plus (coverdisk)
Game Extension (beta)
Falcon Extension (beta)
GUI (haven't installed it yet)

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Any other BASIC (pretty good)
C/C++ (just the basics)
68k Assembler (average)
HTTP/3-4 (pretty well)

Amos achievements:
Cap'n Bubba and the Nasty Alien Menace (Dungeon, Level 4)
and a few other unreleased games and multimedia apps.

Amiga achievements:
Many old projects archived away--never finished. Best Amiga acheivement
yet, though, is that my trusty A2000 still works great (10+ years old).

Your Website:
http://come.to/parrottsoft (or)
http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net

Website recommendations:
Visit my site, when it's done (soon)

Other interests/achievements:
Music (playing and soon composing)
Computing (web site design and games)
Some reading (when I get the chance)
Hoping to get an A1200/A4000T or new Amiga soon.

Your comments: AMOS is a great language, and I am expecting, along with
everyone else, the next release. Hopefully, it'll provide the foundational
base for excellent programming opportunities which AMOS Pro can't offer.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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Obviously, you guys never caught this in all the CV commotion:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2225804,00.html

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Ive started to upload pictures from the show the weekend gone, for all
those interested. Im still working on the pages so keep checking back on a
regular basis.

The URL is http://mushypd.dynip.com/~st-louis99

Have Fun!!

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Hello Adam

On 19-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
> 
> Obviously, you guys never caught this in all the CV commotion:
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2225804,00.html
> 

Oh boy I had a good time reading this today! 
The comments from readers were just great. 
I'll have to add something myself.
Thanks for telling us. Made my day.

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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>


On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Andrew Crowe wrote:

> Hi Scooter 
>    I see Super pac man is comming on nicely.
> 
	thanks, how do you like the new control??  Can you feel Pac
take thsoe corners??  

> I have some suggestions for it though:
> 
	Bring'em on!

>   * More ingame onscreen colours (PS. I spent a few minutes spicing up your
> 4 colour title screens with nice 32 colour shading, tell me what you think
> of em.)
> 
	I was going for a slightly retro look with the title screens,
hence the Loud Red&Yellow colour scheme, like the arcade pac man cabinet
which is painted bright yellow.  Also the game loads all the title screens
on start-up and keeps them open from then on.  This includes the highscore
entry screen, the options screen as well as the two title screens, I did
this to reduce redundant load time and also because constantly loading and
closing screens tends to scramble the Amiga's memory after a bit, this was
esp. true in the old ver. of the game when the actuall game screen was
closed and reopened at the start of every new game, this seemed to cause
alot of trouble with 'ghost' walls and pellets appearing as if left over
from previous levels but never properly cleared from Ram.
	Anyway the point is that's 5 screens X how big they are that you
need in ram, that's why I like them at 4 colours, still could go back to
loading them if snazzy title screens look good enough.
	Oh and the In game screen uses 16 colours, will check out your
screen, though I must admit I am hesitant to change this as it helps make
the game faster and uses less ram.  The orig pac used 16 colours and I'm
not sure how much better more colours can make the game, my first versions
had shaded ghosts and such and I'm not sure it made much difference, plus
I've seen fancy 3-d looking pac clones and I actually think all the 3-d
effects detract from the simplicity of the game.

>   * Animation on the ghosts.
> 
	Would like to add this, the trouble is how small the are, hard to
animate their tails much cause they are so small.  But def. a feature I
want to work on, esp. now that the ghosts wait so long to come out, they
look sort of silly just sitting there staring off into space not moving.  

>   * In 2 player mode, have different coloured pac men instead of showing 1
> or 2 above them, and have them change colour when they've eaten a power
> pill you you can tell if your going to kill the other player.
> 
	yup this is my next mission, it will be easy to add to the code, I
just need to draw the 2nd pac, it will be MS. Pac I think, with lip stick
and bow tie, been holding out because it is less fun work than monkeying
with the code.  

>   * Maybe add psudo-3d shading on the map blocks if you want. (I can show
> you how if you like) 
	I think I've already done this with some levels, see there are 6
different wall types to pick from, the first one and default in the map
editor (thus the one I've used most) is hollow to mimic the original Pac
arcade game, but there are also filled wall icons/levels, I use a scheme
like this

HHHHHHHHH
HMMMMMMML
HMMMMMMML
LLLLLLLLL

	where H=Highlight/Bright colour shade, 
	      L=Lowlight/Dark colour shade
	      M=Middle/Medium colour shade

	it's standard stuff, do you have s slicker method, woudl love to
hear of it. :)


> 
> Anyway, keep up the good work,
	thanks and will do. :)
			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
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Hi there,

i´ve got a few questions concerning MIDI and AMOS :
First, can someone tell me how i can done some simple things like "Channel
xx On" and "Velocity xx" with the AMOS-commands??
It seems, that "Serial Send" doesn´t work...in fact i´ve never got
something out with this!! I´ve noticed that the commands (hex) "90","48","7F"
should cause my Synth to play Note C-3 with Velocity 127 on MIDI-Channel 1 !! But
that doesn´t work!! My Synth doesn´t do anything... how must this be
done??? 
Furthermore, I'd like to know, is it right to set the speed in AMOS to
38400 (serial fast) for using MIDI-transfer??? (i´ve done this, it doesn´t
changes anything)...

arghhh...! can ya help?? (i want to do somethin´ with MIDI... :-)

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

Hello,

I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone have
it?

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 19-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone have
>it?

You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

Hello Rev.

On 20-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>
> 
> On 19-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>> I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
>> have it?
> 
> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.

I have done that, its to big ;) 

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 19-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
>I have done that, its to big ;) 

Too big for who? You to send?

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>>> I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
>>> have it?
>> 
>> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
> 
> I have done that, its to big ;) 


   Do not use RAMOS, I repeat, do NOT use RAMOS.

It leaves the source unaltered, so anyone could just open it up and change
it.

And if you compile the game, it will run quite a bit faster.


If you like, send it to me and I'll compile it for you, its not going to be
to big for me ;)

See ya.
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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>

You wrote:
>I must say:
>*I told you so.*

Hehe -- so you did.

>Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark

Something I've been wondering about... you're not a real Reverand
are you?   If not, what's the "Rev." mean?

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You wrote:
>>Of: (town, county, state, region, area, country)
>Hobart, -1, Tasmania, -1, -1, Australia

Hey! No kidding! Wow... what I coincedence! I'm from Hobart too!
E. me private where abouts, k?

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You wrote:
>>Birthday: (you may get birthday mail!)
>    28/12

Hey! It looks like you share my birthday! Woo hoo ;)

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Well...... as I thought.... no gals seem to do any AMOSing......
(figures)......... does this mean we can make fun of 'em  ;)

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On 20-Mar-99, Leto Kauler wrote:
>>*I told you so.*
>Hehe -- so you did.

But I'll not say more, since I know what a thankless job "project coordinator"
is.

>Something I've been wondering about... you're not a real Reverand
>are you?

Yes, of the Universal Life Church.

Well met and godspeed,
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For newcomers
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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Amos Listers.
I have designed this form to bring members of the Amos Mailing List closer
together.
Please complete as much of the CV as you want, delete this part of the mail
and return the CV to the list with "<your name> CV" as the subject. Keep a
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_AMOS LIST CV_

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CV for: 
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Age:

Birthday: 
(you may get birthday mail!)

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How long have you used Amos?

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Amos achievements:

Amiga achievements:

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 _AMOS LIST CV_
 
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 Last updated 
990320
 
 CV for: 
Torbjörn Lindquist (Linkan)
 
 Gender: 
Male
 
 Of: 
Gävle, Sweden
 
 Age:
23
 
 Birthday: 
11 september
 
 Occupation: 
Studying economics, mathematics and statistics
 
 Real Amiga or emulator?
Real Amiga
 
 How long have you been using an Amiga?
Since 1990
 
 If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
Amiga 1200 in a TH2 with B1230@50Mhz and 16 Mb fast, 32xCD, 2Gb IDE HD,
Networkcard.

Amiga 1200 Pure

Amiga 600 with extra memory

Amiga 3k (not functional)
 
 What is your main Amiga activity?
Surfing the net, making a game

 How long have you used Amos?
About 8 months (have tried to use it a couple of years ago)
 
 What version of Amos do you have?
Amos Pro
 
 What Amos extensions do you have?
None
 
 Other computer languages used and competence level:
None
 
 Amos achievements:
I am making a managergame
 
 Amiga achievements:
 
 Your Website:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3342/
http://home.ljusdal.se/p0088/
 
 Website recommendations:
 
 Other interests/achievements: 
Bandy and my girlfriend
 
 Your comments: 
 (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
 a family audience!)
 
 

Regards
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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



Hi all

I'm back, after what seemed like a month without a miggy
Arrghh.. some kind soul donated one to me :)

anyway, I thought I'd fill in this "CV" as well..

CV for: Stephen Thornber
(your title and name)

Gender: Male. (I think?)
(mail, female)

Of: Blackpool, Lancs, England
(town, county, state, region, area, country)

Age: 36 (ouch!)

Birthday: 10th of April
(you may get birthday mail!)

Occupation: Bum... I mean Unemployed
(school, college, university, employment, armed
forces,unemployed, retired)

Real Amiga or emulator?
Real of course.... what do you take me for ;)

How long have you been using an Amiga?
since the a500 came out.. late 80's IIRC

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200t 166mhz PPC 060/50 SCSI2, 42mb Ram, Quad CD-Rom,
250mb HD (yeah, tiny innit...), Power Tower,
Sampler, Vidi12 aga, Citizen abc printer

What is your main Amiga activity?
3D Graphics (using Lightwave, Imagine, C4D and T3D)

How long have you used Amos?
since v1.34 came out.

What version of Amos do you have?
Amos Pro v2

What Amos extensions do you have?
not many. 2 or 3 max

Other computer languages used and competence level:
Arexx (beginner)
AmigaDos (Competent)

Amos achievements:
errrm, ahhh, well, errr, none (blush)

Amiga achievements:
Had my Artwork on the AFCD and in the mag 3 times
had articles I wrote published on the "Grapevine"
magazine.

Your Website:
None at the mo..

Website recommendations:
None at the mo.

Other interests/achievements: 
(can be non computer related)
Interests are Computing, Rendering,Ray Tracing, F1,
Reading, Writing Fiction and keeping finches.

Your comments: 
(about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
a family audience!)
none that can be printed ;)

Regards
Steve
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SThornber@Steve1.Demon.co.uk     |
Http: (Coming Soon...!!)         | Zip,Nothing,Zero,Sod all...
A1200T 166mhz PPC 060/50 42mb Ram| 

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>>>I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
have
>>>it?
>
>>You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
>
>The Compiler wont compile it, its too big.
>The source needs 1meg of a text buffer in the editor
>and the compiler just crashes


Have you tried using the "include" command.....


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From: ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

Could I impose on the list to send me the coverdisk amos again ? 
My amiga lost it's HD, and in trying to test if the one on my PC could 
be used instead of.. I lost everything. several years of aminet BBS

Nothing that can't be replaced, just it's going to take a real long time.



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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>


> Last updated 21/3/99
> 
> CV for: Alastair Murray
> 
> Gender: Male
> 
> Of: Middlesbrough, England
> 
> Age: 21
> 
> Birthday: 11/11/77
> 
> Occupation:   Almost finished University
> 
> Real Amiga or emulator?   Real AMIGA.
> 
> How long have you been using an Amiga?   Since A500 days
> 
> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?

A1200 16MB, BPPC 166Mhz with 68040. Bvision. 5GB Hard Drive. CD ROM.
Zip Drive. Modem. Other usual stuff.

> What is your main Amiga activity?

Until I got my Bvision, it was AMOS coding.
Now just general computer use.

> How long have you used Amos?

Since A500 days.


> What version of Amos do you have?

AMOS Pro v2.

> What Amos extensions do you have?

Loads of them.
Ones I use are GUI, AMCAF mainly.

> Other computer languages used and competence level:

AMOS (pretty damn knowledgable)
C/C++ (fairly well)
Java (very well)
Prolog (not bad)
Pascal (a bit)
Things like Visual Basic (easy stuff though shit)
Asm (not very well)


> Amos achievements:

On aminet. (I might have got some directories wrong)
game/shoot/Hangar18
game/role/Chaos
game/shoot/Traitor
game/shoot/Extinct
game/shoot/KillEmAll
game/jump/Blobby
game/jump/Banana
dev/misc/Backbone   (game creator using GUI interface)
dev/amos/ this and that

> Amiga achievements:

Pretty much the same as above.

> Your Website:

http://welcome.to/Muzzasoft   (PD games)
http://surf.to/Monolith      (better games)
http://surf.to/Murrays-Home  (main page)

> Website recommendations:

err.... Aminet and Chzech news and mine.

> Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)

See webpage.

> Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
> a family audience!)

I've said it a hundred times but....
MAKE AMOS GFX CARD COMPATABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!


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|  Homepage -------------------> http://surf.to/Murrays-Home        |
|  Muzzasoft Productions ------> http://welcome.to/muzzasoft        |
|  Monolith Design ------------> http://surf.to/monolith            |
|  Backbone Support -----------> http://welcome.to/backbone         |
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From: "Andy H." <geosync@space.net.au>

> _AMOS LIST CV_
> 
> Keep this CV for later reference
> 
> Last updated
????????????????????
> 
> CV for:
Andy Hawkins

> Gender:
Male

> Of:
Perth, Western Australia

> Age:
28 

> Birthday:
7th April 1970

> Occupation:
Computer Hardware/Software Technician - self employed
 
> Real Amiga or emulator?
Real Amiga

> How long have you been using an Amiga?
Since 1991

> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
Amiga 1200, 2Meg Chip, 4Meg Fast, 1.6Gig HDD, 1084 Monitor
Amiga 500, 2Meg Chip, 2Meg Fast - no HDD.

> What is your main Amiga activity?
Programming games/utilities

> How long have you used Amos?
Since 1991
 
> What version of Amos do you have?
Amos Pro 

> What Amos extensions do you have?
Turbo, Amos3d, GUI.

> Other computer languages used and competence level:
C & Machine code

> Amos achievements:
Star Fighter D'Yammens Reign
3d level in Capn Bubba game
Sample Performance Editor
Time Code generator
ASCII text reader
Surfing simulation
3d text animation
3d animator
3d points character animator for Capn Bubba

> Amiga achievements:
As above.
 
> Your Website:
http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/tainment/index.htm
http://www.space.net.au/~geosync/index.htm

> Website recommendations:
http://www.knittingfactory.com - Need realplayer g2
http://www.amigaflame.co.uk
http://www.starshiptroopers.com/ - Need shockwave flash

> Other interests/achievements:
Made 'Attack Of The Suckworth 2' (schlock horror film)
Wrote 15 soundtracks
Wrote 3 feature film scripts
Made countless short films
Nominated 'Best Sound' Young Film Makers Awards 1993
Knocked back by LucasArts to make a revolutionary game.  I suggested a
spin-off from the battle of Hoth, and they said, 'No way are we going to
let you make this'.  10 months later, out comes 'Shadows Of The
Empire'...hmmm something's strange....didn`t I suggest this to them????
Many other great things...hee hee

> 
> Your comments:
Long live the Amiga.  When I had the cash to buy a computer in 1991, I
looked at the 286/386 for about 2.31 microseconds, then ran with great
haste to the Amiga computer.  The Amiga 500, which I still have today,
PARNET`ed to my A1200 is one of the most revolutionary computers ever
built.
In 1999, 14 years after the Amiga was born,  Gates has just managed to
create a comparable GUI.  Now the other thing that astounds me is that
all I need is a trap-door expansion (PowerPC add-on) and WE-HEY-HEY, my
A1200 Miggie will be more powerful than my clunky IBM.
I look forward to the new class of Amiga`s coming out in the Millenium.

Seeya,
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On 21-Mar-99, Neil Ives wrote:
>From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

>Hello Peter

Hello,

>1978! You sent a mail from 1978. Are you a Time Lord? 
>I remember 1978, I was 28. We had no children then. Spare money, spare time.
>I wish I could take my Amiga back to that time.......Wait a minute things
>are beginning to click into place. No wonder the Amiga was/is so far ahead
>of its time. 
>'Who' are you and just what period are you really from Doctor?

Boy arnt we funny today!

Its actually a prob with my Blizzard, I replaced the battery about 2
weeks ago.

Im glad to see that you spend your spare time been so creative :)

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I want to draw a box on an iff screen and 
use the mouse to change the size of the box,
like in a paintprogram.

Has anyone got a code for that?




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Hello Keith

On 21-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>
> 
>>>> I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
> have
>>>> it?
>> 
>>> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
>> 
>> The Compiler wont compile it, its too big.
>> The source needs 1meg of a text buffer in the editor
>> and the compiler just crashes
> 
> 
> Have you tried using the "include" command.....

No, I havn't. I have read the manual, but I don't get how it works after it
has been compiled. Does it became 1 exefile or does it became the same
number of exefiles as the number of sources included?

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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

Hi Giark,
  What is the latest on the GUI extension?  Sorry if it seems like I am
pestering you but I am kinda anxious to see what is on offer in this new
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I am sure this has been asked before but I have only recently got my amiga
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> I want to draw a box on an iff screen and 
> use the mouse to change the size of the box,
> like in a paintprogram.

'
'Boxy Boxy, by Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net> 
'
'
' Just insert this in the approprate place.
'
'


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Limit Mouse 0
For A=0 To 1000
   F Plot Rnd(320),Rnd(200),Rnd(15)
Next 

TMPB=1 : Rem unused bob number

C=4 : Rem colour 

SX=Screen Width
SY=Screen Height

Repeat 
   
   Gr Writing 2
   X=X Screen(X Mouse)
   Y=Y Screen(Y Mouse)
   
   Draw X,SY To X,0
   Draw SX,Y To 0,Y
   
   Repeat 
      Wait Vbl 
      X2=X Screen(X Mouse)
      Y2=Y Screen(Y Mouse)
   Until X2<>X or Y2<>Y
   
   Draw X,SY To X,0
   Draw SX,Y To 0,Y
   
Until Mouse Key=1


Repeat 
   
   Gr Writing 1
   DX=X Screen(X Mouse)
   DY=Y Screen(Y Mouse)
   
   DX2=Max(DX,X)
   DY2=Max(DY,Y)
   X2=Min(DX,X)
   Y2=Min(DY,Y)
   
   If DX2>X2 and DY2>Y2
      Get Bob TMPB,X2,Y2 To DX2+1,DY2+1
      Ink C : Bar X2,Y2 To DX2,DY2
      Repeat 
         Wait Vbl 
         X3=X Screen(X Mouse)
         Y3=Y Screen(Y Mouse)
      Until X3<>DX or Y3<>DY
      Paste Bob X2,Y2,TMPB
   End If 
   
Until Mouse Key=0

If DX2>X2 and DY2>Y2
   Ink C : Bar X2,Y2 To DX2,DY2
End If 


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''


   There you go, hope it helps

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hubbe Hubbe <grok@flashback.net>
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Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 11:29
Subject: [amos-list] box


>From: Hubbe Hubbe <grok@flashback.net>
>
>I want to draw a box on an iff screen and 
>use the mouse to change the size of the box,
>like in a paintprogram.
>
>Has anyone got a code for that?

Repeat
Until Mouse Key<>0
ox=x screen(x mouse)
oy=y screen(y mouse)

Gr writing 3
Repeat
    mx=x screen(x mouse)
    my=y screen(y mouse)
    box ox,oy to mx,my
    wait vbl
    box ox,oy to mx,my
    wait vbl
Until Mouse key=0

Gr writing 0
Box ox,oy,mx,my

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From: dl80@gmx.net

hi there,

can ya help me? i have a real big problem. i got an old a3000,030,ecs &
workbench 2.0 from a friend without the workbench-disks... and now i need them
!! i´ve installed all libs from the AGA-Toolwork CD (me idiot) but i forgot
that i´ve ROM2.0 and these libs are for ROM3.0!!(AGA-machines) !! arghh!
now nothing works! so i need the original libs (better all the wb2.0-disk´s)
to re-install them!! can someone of you mail me the libs, the disk(s) or can
give me information how (or where) to get libs,disk´s !? 
thanx in advance...

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello Peter

On 14-Jan-78, you wrote:

> From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>
> 
> On 20-Mar-99, Rev. Giark To You wrote:
>> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>
> 
>> On 19-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>> I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
>> have it?
> 
>> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
> 
> The Compiler wont compile it, its too big.
> The source needs 1meg of a text buffer in the editor
> and the compiler just crashes
> 
> bye,

1978! You sent a mail from 1978. Are you a Time Lord? 
I remember 1978, I was 28. We had no children then. Spare money, spare time.
I wish I could take my Amiga back to that time.......Wait a minute things
are beginning to click into place. No wonder the Amiga was/is so far ahead
of its time. 
'Who' are you and just what period are you really from Doctor?

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 21-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>  What is the latest on the GUI extension?

Waiting for info from Pietro on about 25 commands.

>Sorry if it seems like I am
>pestering you but I am kinda anxious to see what is on offer in this new
>release. 

Me, too. At the moment, I just don't have time to experiment,crash,reboot ad
naseum to figure out all the new commands. But the manual is shaping up. I'm
trying to track down all needed utils and such to include in the final public
release. If anyone has a line on the XFA system, let me know.

To recap:
Iconify
AppIcon
XFA anim control
Locale
Public Screens
TCP

All fully supported in GUI 2.

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Hello, everyone

I know this has been asked before but I wasn't paying attention.
Can I legally give copies of my licensed Amos to my friends or is it still a
copyrighted product?
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,
>
> On 14-Jan-78, you wrote:
> 
>> From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>
>> 
>> On 20-Mar-99, Rev. Giark To You wrote:
>>> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>


> 1978! You sent a mail from 1978. Are you a Time Lord? I remember 1978, I
> was 28. We had no children then. Spare money, spare time. I wish I could
> take my Amiga back to that time.......Wait a minute things are beginning
> to click into place. No wonder the Amiga was/is so far ahead of its time.
> 'Who' are you and just what period are you really from Doctor?

   Oh, arn't we funny....

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

I've compiled the big prg, but I forget the address. Send me mail so I can
send you your exe.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Rev. Giark
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Hello, peeps
I can scan the AmosPro command index (19 pages ) at work, but we dont have
OCR software. Can anyone on the list get them OCR'd to produce a simple
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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>>>>> I would need ramos 1.3 for a game-project I am working on, does anyone
>> have
>>>>> it?
>>>> You'd be better off sending someone with the compiler your source.
>>> The Compiler wont compile it, its too big.
>>> The source needs 1meg of a text buffer in the editor
>>> and the compiler just crashes
>> Have you tried using the "include" command.....
>No, I havn't. I have read the manual, but I don't get how it works after it
>has been compiled. Does it became 1 exefile or does it became the same
>number of exefiles as the number of sources included?


If memory serves, one executable, which should be what you are after.
Otherwise, you could always break it into chunks and load sequentially.
Amos does soemthing really wierd when you do that that I think you may like.

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>


>can ya help me? i have a real big problem. i got an old a3000,030,ecs &
>workbench 2.0 from a friend without the workbench-disks... and now i need
them
>!! ive installed all libs from the AGA-Toolwork CD (me idiot) but i forgot
>that ive ROM2.0 and these libs are for ROM3.0!!(AGA-machines) !! arghh!
>now nothing works! so i need the original libs (better all the wb2.0-disks)
>to re-install them!! can someone of you mail me the libs, the disk(s) or
can
>give me information how (or where) to get libs,disks !?


Better idea...  softkick KS3.1 - There are half a dozen softkickers on
aminet or so that will allow you to load the newer KS into memory, and then
all your libs will work correctly.  Assuming you have a sensible amount of
memory, this is the best solution, and is pretty much 100% reliable.  Plus,
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

Hello Declan

On 21-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>
> 
> I am sure this has been asked before but I have only recently got my amiga
> online at home.  Anyway, is there any active AMOS IRC channels?
> 
> Declan.

Yes, look at IRCnet, channel #AMOS
shell is the bot there...

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I want to download a file from a web server (eg. XOOM or Geocities) within
amos. is it possible? does Gui extension's TCP command work? is there a a
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On 21-Mar-99, ardaoncu wrote:
>I want to download a file from a web server (eg. XOOM or Geocities) within
>amos. is it possible?

Yes.

> does Gui extension's TCP command work?

Yes.

> is there a a
>way to do this?

There's a command that does just that. You give it the info and it grabs a
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dl80@gmx.net wrote:
> i´ve got a few questions concerning MIDI and AMOS :

You knocked to the right door: I know that topic !

> First, can someone tell me how i can done some simple things like "Channel xx On" and "Velocity xx" with the AMOS-commands??

1st you have to know how midi messages are made. If so, yes, it is
possible and easy.

> It seems, that "Serial Send" doesn´t work...in fact i´ve never got
> something out with this!! I´ve noticed that the commands (hex) "90","48","7F"
> should cause my Synth to play Note C-3 with Velocity 127 on MIDI-Channel 1 !! But
> that doesn´t work!! My Synth doesn´t do anything... how must this be
> done???

Serial send works fine, but it seems that your serial port isn't
correctly opened.

> Furthermore, I'd like to know, is it right to set the speed in AMOS to
> 38400 (serial fast) for using MIDI-transfer??? (i´ve done this, it doesn´t
> changes anything)...
> arghhh...! can ya help?? (i want to do somethin´ with MIDI... :-)

If I remember well, the right speed is 31250 for Midi. Parity and number
of bits are important, too.
I don't know "by heart" the settings for Midi handling. I'll check my
progs this evening and send you the exact parameters for Serial open,
Serial Buf and so on.

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I will send you some Amos code to get you started when I get home this
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From: dl80@gmx.net

Hi there,  i´ve got a few questions concerning MIDI and AMOS : First, can
someone tell me how i can done some simple things like "Channel
xx On" and "Velocity xx" with the AMOS-commands?? It seems, that "Serial
Send" doesn´t work...in fact i´ve never got
something out with this!! I´ve noticed that the commands (hex)
"90","48","7F"
should cause my Synth to play Note C-3 with Velocity 127 on MIDI-Channel 1
!! But
that doesn´t work!! My Synth doesn´t do anything... how must this be
done???  Furthermore, I'd like to know, is it right to set the speed in AMOS
to
38400 (serial fast) for using MIDI-transfer??? (i´ve done this, it doesn´t
changes anything)...  arghhh...! can ya help?? (i want to do somethin´ with
MIDI... :-)  -bye-


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> _AMOS LIST CV_
> 
> Keep this CV for later reference
> 
> Last updated
22.03.99 
> CV for:
Claude Aeschlimann
> 
> Gender:
> (mail, female)
M 
> Of:
Geneva, Switzerland
> 
> Age:
35 
> Birthday:
January 14th
> 
> Occupation:
> (school, college, university, employment, armed
> forces,unemployed, retired)
Librarian 
> Real Amiga or emulator?
Real at home, emulator at work 
> How long have you been using an Amiga?
About 11-12 years
 
> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
A1200, 1240/40, 16MB RAM, 3GB HD, Micronik Tower (not satisfied at all,
though :(, CD-ROM, CD-Writer
A1200, 1230/40, 8MB RAM, 2GB HD, CD-ROM, ZIP
> 
> What is your main Amiga activity?
Games and especially SWOS (great game!), 3D, AMOS, music
> How long have you used Amos?
Don't know exactly, since AMOS 1.36
> What version of Amos do you have?
AMOSPro2.0, EasyAMOS, AMOS 1.36
> What Amos extensions do you have?
None
> Other computer languages used and competence level:
HTML, ok 
> Amos achievements:
None. I never finished a project. I have an idea at the moment but no
spare time to start it 
> Amiga achievements:
Same as above
> Your Website:
- 
> Website recommendations:
http://www.jlmurat.com/
Very original site of a talented French singer

> Other interests/achievements:
> (can be non computer related)
Football (soccer), my bike (Suzuki 500GS E), music, history, ... 
> Your comments:
> (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that won't upset
> a family audience!)
Tried twice to enter PC world, and came back twice very quickly to my
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Claude Aeschlimann <aeschlim@hei.unige.ch> wrote:

>> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
>A1200, 1240/40, 16MB RAM, 3GB HD, Micronik Tower (not satisfied at all,
>though :(, CD-ROM, CD-Writer

Why aren't you satisfied?
I'm planning to buy a Micronic Tower myself, you see.

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From: Claude Aeschlimann <aeschlim@hei.unige.ch>

Hi, 
> Hello, peeps
> I can scan the AmosPro command index (19 pages ) at work, but we dont have
> OCR software. Can anyone on the list get them OCR'd to produce a simple
> text document for newcomers to refer to?

I have access to OCR software so I could give it a go, just send me the
file to my private e-mail address.

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Hello

have tried some examples of drawing a box on a screen but
I can't get it to work properly.

In the program I write I must have a box drawn, not bar...
...only the outline of the square should be seen...

What's inside the box must be seen.

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>Hi there,  ive got a few questions concerning MIDI and AMOS : First, can
>someone tell me how i can done some simple things like "Channel
>xx On" and "Velocity xx" with the AMOS-commands?? It seems, that "Serial
>Send" doesnt work...in fact ive never got
>something out with this!! Ive noticed that the commands (hex)
>"90","48","7F"
>should cause my Synth to play Note C-3 with Velocity 127 on MIDI-Channel 1
>!! But
>that doesnt work!! My Synth doesnt do anything... how must this be
>done???  Furthermore, I'd like to know, is it right to set the speed in
AMOS
>to
>38400 (serial fast) for using MIDI-transfer??? (ive done this, it doesnt
>changes anything)...  arghhh...! can ya help?? (i want to do somethin with
>MIDI... :-)  -bye-

I was messign with this years ago, but I seem to remember problems setting
the speed high enough for midi.  Somewhere I have a list of specs, but its
possible amos isn't quite capable.  Either that, or we both had the same
problem someone is about to solve.  Hint, when you get it working, check the
INPUT from the keyboard, and record the bits you like,m then play them
back..

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

I hope someone can help me out with this problem I am having difficulty
with.

Firstly, my string gadget is set to hold no more than 3 digits.  In my GUI,
when I click on the gadget and enter in a 3 digit value, the cursor forces
the first digit behind the gadget border thus displaying only two digits.
The only way to rectify this is to click on the gadget again, thus
re-aligning itself correctly.

Has anyone got any tricks or ideas how I may achieve this?

Thanks in advance.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

Keith Hill said :

>I was messing with this years ago, but I seem to remember problems setting
>the speed high enough for midi.  Somewhere I have a list of specs, but its
>possible Amos isn't quite capable.  Either that, or we both had the same
>problem someone is about to solve.  Hint, when you get it working, check
the
>INPUT from the keyboard, and record the bits you like,m then play them
>back..

I have had a problem when trying to capture system exclusive messages from a
midi device where I keep getting a data overrun error.  This suggests to me
that Amos just can't handle the speed at which data received.  What I did
was get the Blitz source of a program called "Syx" and try and integrate it
into one of my own programs.  Integrating it was simple enough but the
errors kept flooding in.  I even tried to trap the errors and let Amos
continue capturing the data but found it very unreliable.

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From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= <tfb@bigfoot.com>

At 03:56 22-03-99 -0800, you wrote:
>From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>
>
>I am looking for the disk that belongs to the "Amiga Action Replay". If 
>you save something with it it uses a different disk-format. And with the 
>disk you can convert pictures/sounds that you saved. If anyone can help 
>me, please let me know!

I have the Action Replay MK III on my A500.
But i never got any disks with it!
(I have MK II too, so if theres any disks with it, it has to be MK I)

It does not save pictures in any special format!
How do you save the picture after finding it in memory?
Try SPM "PicName"
That should save it as an ordinary IFF file!

Samples is saved in RAW format.
I can't remember how it's done though.
But i do know that Audiomaster III can read the raw samples!

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 22-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>Firstly, my string gadget is set to hold no more than 3 digits. 

Set as in gui limit, or set as in you made it big enough for three? If option
2, you need to make a 3 character gadget *4* characters wide (3+cursor).

>Has anyone got any tricks or ideas how I may achieve this?

No tricks, just understanding how the gui system works.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 22-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>I have had a problem when trying to capture system exclusive messages from a
>midi device where I keep getting a data overrun error. 

How big are you setting your serial buffer to?

When I set up serial links, I usually use 10k x modem speed/100 which means
140k for a 14.4 connect. It seems a bit high, I know, but I never had a buffer
overflow.

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If you want to save something on disk with the Replay I you need to 
format the disk first with a different format then Amiga. Then you can 
save on that disk. maybe with II and III it's different but.

Patrick Wesseling (OS 3.5 on schedule and Amiga NG/II somewhere at the 
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>At 03:56 22-03-99 -0800, you wrote:
>>From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>
>>
>>I am looking for the disk that belongs to the "Amiga Action Replay". 
If 
>>you save something with it it uses a different disk-format. And with 
the 
>>disk you can convert pictures/sounds that you saved. If anyone can 
help 
>>me, please let me know!
>
>I have the Action Replay MK III on my A500.
>But i never got any disks with it!
>(I have MK II too, so if theres any disks with it, it has to be MK I)
>
>It does not save pictures in any special format!
>How do you save the picture after finding it in memory?
>Try SPM "PicName"
>That should save it as an ordinary IFF file!
>
>Samples is saved in RAW format.
>I can't remember how it's done though.
>But i do know that Audiomaster III can read the raw samples!
>
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On 22-Mar-99, Hubbe Hubbe wrote:
>In the program I write I must have a box drawn, not bar...
>...only the outline of the square should be seen...

Use the Box command, rather than the Bar command.

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From: "ardaoncu" <ardaoncu@artemis.efes.net>

> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

Hi, its me again... More questions I have got.

> > is there a a
> >way to do this? 
> There's a command that does just that. You give it the info and it grabs
a file.

So what command is it? and what is its syntax in GUI ext 1.75?

I browsed all of the Gui Ext TCP command guide, couldnt find any.

Tcp F open just logs output to a local file.
How can I open a channel to a file on a web server?

What is the port for a web server...
110 for POP3,  25 for STMP, 21 for FTP and what port is for HTTP?

its just silly idea to use Tcp open (1,"members.xoom.com/apm/update.abk")
and obviously it won' work but I cannot imagine any other way :)))

I'm stuck...

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Hey Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se...

On 22-Mar-99, didn't you say...
> From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se

> Claude Aeschlimann <aeschlim@hei.unige.ch> wrote:

>>> If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
>> A1200, 1240/40, 16MB RAM, 3GB HD, Micronik Tower (not satisfied at all,
>> though :(, CD-ROM, CD-Writer

> Why aren't you satisfied?
> I'm planning to buy a Micronic Tower myself, you see.

>     Magnus

I had a Micronik Tower.  With a Cyberstorm PPC in it, it ran about a slow as
my 1200 with an 030 in it.  Hopefully their newer ones have a sturdier case
and don't break in shipping.  The money I wasted on shipping the tower back
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From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

	hello all

	First I own some reply to a few people on the list, i hope this also 
answers it
	I stopped working on the game couse the way it goes it is eayer to 
rewrite them try to fix it. The other fact is that instead of 
rewriting it right now with the help of a few people here and there , 
I will probably write another game instead (a ring king clone with 
manga characters as I just mastered the technique!)
	What makes me write this is that the batraquio game is somehow 
almost completed , it has 30 levels plus bosses and two player 
simultaneous game(plus few secrets!). I would be really sad to trash 
all the work so instead i decided to release it the way it is as it 
proves REAL fun (specially 2 played as it is fast and furious!)
	The only things lacking are the story itself , 4players support (gaa 
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	So , if anybody would like to give a go on this , email me and I 
will send a copy to you +-400k in lha (I actually wanted to mail it 
to the list but i guess some people woul be pissed)
	I really would like everybody to play it as it is really funny!
	For those that don't know , it is a game based on the old frog's fly 
from the atari2600 , screen shots are on the amos-site
	So , for all those people that offered help , thanks , I will 
contact you as I plan the new version.
	See ya!!


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From: "Chris Coulson" <chris@bay13.demon.co.uk>


> a midi device where I keep getting a data overrun error.  This suggests to
> me that Amos just can't handle the speed at which data received.

Were you trying to do anything with the messages whilst they were 
being downloaded, or were you just sitting in a tight receive loop?  
I`m working on a digicam utility, and some of my betatesters have 
successfully had it running at 115.2 kbaud via a third-party serial 
port.  Even with the standard serial port on my A4000, I can achieve 
38.4 kbaud without difficulty, and some A1200 owning testers are 
achieving 57.6 kbaud.  

So, if we`re just talking about being able to receive serial data and 
quickly shove it into memory somewhere for later processing, then 
AMOS is more than capable of handling high bitrates :-)


Chris

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Personally, I use the following settings to open a serial port

Serial Open 0,0
Serial Speed 0,31250
Serial Bits 0,8,1
Serial Parity 0,-1
Serial X 0,-1

To play a note I have used

Serial Send 0,Chr$($9-enter midi channel here-)+Chr$(-enter note value
here-)+Chr$(-enter velocity here-)

To stop playing a note I have used

Serial Send 0,Chr$($8-enter midi channel here-)+Chr$(-enter note value
here-)+Chr$(-enter velocity here-)

I hope this helps.

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From: Jono <jono@enti.demon.co.uk>

Hello erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

On 22-Mar-99, erico@www.tecnopro.com.br wrote:
> From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
> 
>     hello all
> 
>     First I own some reply to a few people on the list, i hope this also 
> answers it
>     I stopped working on the game couse the way it goes it is eayer to 
> rewrite them try to fix it. The other fact is that instead of 
> rewriting it right now with the help of a few people here and there , 
> I will probably write another game instead (a ring king clone with 
> manga characters as I just mastered the technique!)
>     What makes me write this is that the batraquio game is somehow 
> almost completed , it has 30 levels plus bosses and two player 
> simultaneous game(plus few secrets!). I would be really sad to trash 
> all the work so instead i decided to release it the way it is as it 
> proves REAL fun (specially 2 played as it is fast and furious!)
>     The only things lacking are the story itself , 4players support (gaa 
> too slow!) and a front end , other than this it is complete.
>     So , if anybody would like to give a go on this , email me and I 
> will send a copy to you +-400k in lha (I actually wanted to mail it 
> to the list but i guess some people woul be pissed)
>     I really would like everybody to play it as it is really funny!
>     For those that don't know , it is a game based on the old frog's fly 
> from the atari2600 , screen shots are on the amos-site
>     So , for all those people that offered help , thanks , I will 
> contact you as I plan the new version.
>     See ya!!
> 
> 
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> http://www.onelist.com
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I'll take a look :)

Cheers,

Jono

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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

Hello Giark

>Set as in gui limit, or set as in you made it big enough for three? If option
>2, you need to make a 3 character gadget *4* characters wide (3+cursor).

I can't seem to find any mention of a Gui Limit in the V1.75 docs.  Or are you
referring to Gadtools?
Unfortunatley, to fit all of the gadgets into my window I need the gadgets set
to 3 characters wide.

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On 22-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>Serial Open 0,0
>Serial Speed 0,31250
>Serial Bits 0,8,1
>Serial Parity 0,-1
>Serial X 0,-1

No serial Buf? Are you crazy?

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On 22-Mar-99, ardaoncu wrote:
>Hi, its me again... More questions I have got.

I wish more answers had I. Does anyone know if Pietro has lost his net access
again?

>So what command is it? and what is its syntax in GUI ext 1.75?

Sorry, I forget. It was a while ago that we discussed it.

>I browsed all of the Gui Ext TCP command guide, couldnt find any.

It might be tcp download. And it might be in 2.0. I am working as fast as I
can, in a vaccuum here.

>What is the port for a web server...
>110 for POP3,  25 for STMP, 21 for FTP and what port is for HTTP?

Argh, I forget. One of the listers must know.

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Declan Gorman wrote (quicker than me ;):
> Personally, I use the following settings to open a serial port
> Serial Open 0,0
> Serial Speed 0,31250
> Serial Bits 0,8,1
> Serial Parity 0,-1
> Serial X 0,-1

I use for my part:
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Serial fast 1

It works, too, but I'll try to use Declan's commands !

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

>On 22-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>>Serial Open 0,0
>>Serial Speed 0,31250
>>Serial Bits 0,8,1
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>>Serial X 0,-1

>No serial Buf? Are you crazy?

I am sure I have a Serial Buf somewhere only I forgot to mention it.  I will
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>From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

>On 22-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>>I have had a problem when trying to capture system exclusive messages from
a
>>midi device where I keep getting a data overrun error.

>How big are you setting your serial buffer to?

I need something in the range of 400k - 500k but still the error persists.
If you are intereseted, I could post the main loop of the code as it is not
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> I had a Micronik Tower.  With a Cyberstorm PPC in it, it ran about a slow as
> my 1200 with an 030 in it.  Hopefully their newer ones have a sturdier case
> and don't break in shipping.  The money I wasted on shipping the tower back
> and forth, i could have bought a used 4000.

I have an Ateo tower, it is made of metal and anyway sent in a cocoon !
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> "floquet" <floquet@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr> wrote:
> 
>> I had a Micronik Tower.  With a Cyberstorm PPC in it, it ran about a slow
as
>> my 1200 with an 030 in it.  Hopefully their newer ones have a sturdier
case
>> and don't break in shipping.  The money I wasted on shipping the tower
back
>> and forth, i could have bought a used 4000.

>I have an Ateo tower, it is made of metal and anyway sent in a cocoon !
>Postmen can train rugby with it, you don't matter !
>It is very satisfying, but not perfect, just almost.

Is this some sort of a international training program all postmen has to go
throu?
"How to wreck a package. Ten easy steps."

Anyhow, is there anyone on this list who know about a 1200 Tower with Z3
that doesn't make the Miggy slow as a snail?

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On 22-Mar-99, erico@www.tecnopro.com.br wrote:
> From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
 
>     hello all
 
Hi ya,

>     So , if anybody would like to give a go on this
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> will send a copy to you +-400k in lha (I actually
wanted to mail it 
> to the list but i guess some people woul be pissed)
>     I really would like everybody to play it as it
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Mmmm Can`t Wait.

>     So , for all those people that offered help ,
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> contact you as I plan the new version.
>     See ya!!

I will help too if i can.
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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>

To everybody that asked for the starwars mods and the bbs program i am
currently trying to get my web pages up and running and will post them
on there!

Do any of you Have a ICQ number?

Would anybody like to help me with the webpages as my html knowledge is
CRAP !

Can I say CRAP on here ?

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

---->>> I had a Micronik Tower.  With a Cyberstorm PPC in it, it ran about a
slow
>as
>>> my 1200 with an 030 in it.  Hopefully their newer ones have a sturdier
>case
>>> and don't break in shipping.  The money I wasted on shipping the tower
>back
>>> and forth, i could have bought a used 4000.
>
>>I have an Ateo tower, it is made of metal and anyway sent in a cocoon !
>>Postmen can train rugby with it, you don't matter !
>>It is very satisfying, but not perfect, just almost.
>Is this some sort of a international training program all postmen has to go
>throu?
>"How to wreck a package. Ten easy steps."
>Anyhow, is there anyone on this list who know about a 1200 Tower with Z3
>that doesn't make the Miggy slow as a snail?


Ok, how are you saying the tower is "slow" ?  The tower is just a box, that
is all.  My box, holds my extremely slow 68060 based amiga which seems to
absolutely crawl along when doing power applications, but still interfaces
faster than the peecee.  There is no way ANY tower is slow, 'cos the
internal bus width doesn't change.  The only way it can slow is by hard
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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>Do any of you Have a ICQ number?


Many of us do.  There is a link to mine on my webpage.

>Would anybody like to help me with the webpages as my html knowledge is
>CRAP !


Certainly.  What sort of setup are you interested in ?  (or do you mean free
?)

>Can I say CRAP on here ?


Well, not really..

>Many appologies to all


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Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!

The letter below look like "F A C"............ maybe it's just me

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You wrote:
>I am sure this has been asked before but I have only recently got
>my amiga online at home.

Good feeling isn't it, Declan!  I thought it was so super actually
/surfing/ the Net on my Miggie ;)

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 23-Mar-99, Ian Ison wrote:
>Do any of you Have a ICQ number?

A lot of us do.

>Can I say CRAP on here ?

Apparently.

Well met and godspeed,
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>Well, I didn't think that my comment on my tower setup would start a
>discussion, especially when it is out of context in this mailing list,
>so sorry about that if it disturbs anyone.


Are you calling us disturbed ?

>> Ok, how are you saying the tower is "slow" ?  The tower is just a box,
that
>> is all.  My box, holds my extremely slow 68060 based amiga which seems to
>> absolutely crawl along when doing power applications, but still
interfaces
>> faster than the peecee.  There is no way ANY tower is slow, 'cos the
>> internal bus width doesn't change.  The only way it can slow is by hard
>> drive size and cable width (!) and zorro2 vs zorro3.
>That's what I meant. Without the Z3 board it works as before, but with
>the card plugged in it crawls. Sad :-(


Ouch.  Slow card.  Jumpers ?  Too obvious.  Is it the actual SLOTS that are
slow, or something plugged into them ?  Either way, its an interesting
warning, and one that requires more info !

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>>>Hi there,  ive got a few questions concerning MIDI and AMOS : First, can
>>>someone tell me how i can done some simple things like "Channel
>>>xx On" and "Velocity xx" with the AMOS-commands?? It seems, that "Serial
>>>Send" doesnt work...in fact ive never got
>>>something out with this!! Ive noticed that the commands (hex)
>>>"90","48","7F"
>>>should cause my Synth to play Note C-3 with Velocity 127 on MIDI-Channel
1
>>>!! But
>>>that doesnt work!! My Synth doesnt do anything... how must this be
>>>done???  Furthermore, I'd like to know, is it right to set the speed in
>>AMOS
>>>to
>>>38400 (serial fast) for using MIDI-transfer??? (ive done this, it doesnt
>>>changes anything)...  arghhh...! can ya help?? (i want to do somethin
with
>>>MIDI... :-)  -bye-
>
>
>There is a whole packet of inf0ormation that goes with midi, and that
>includes the identifiying device.  I am however, still convinced your baud
>rate is wrong.  Try setting to either 9600 (which I'm sure is wrong) or
>115200.  I'm gonna have to get books out at this rate.
>
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 23-Mar-99, Keith Hill wrote:
>Are you calling us disturbed ?

If he isn't, /I/ am!

>Ouch.  Slow card.  Jumpers ?  Too obvious.  Is it the actual SLOTS that are
>slow, or something plugged into them ?  Either way, its an interesting
>warning, and one that requires more info !

When I inquired about getting a tower for my 1200, the place warned me that
the slots part was dodgy at best. I don't mind, since I plan on the tower just
for ext. kbd and more deskspace, not slots, but the slot unit has a bad rep.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: Claude Aeschlimann <aeschlim@hei.unige.ch>

Well, I didn't think that my comment on my tower setup would start a
discussion, especially when it is out of context in this mailing list,
so sorry about that if it disturbs anyone.

> Ok, how are you saying the tower is "slow" ?  The tower is just a box, that
> is all.  My box, holds my extremely slow 68060 based amiga which seems to
> absolutely crawl along when doing power applications, but still interfaces
> faster than the peecee.  There is no way ANY tower is slow, 'cos the
> internal bus width doesn't change.  The only way it can slow is by hard
> drive size and cable width (!) and zorro2 vs zorro3.
That's what I meant. Without the Z3 board it works as before, but with
the card plugged in it crawls. Sad :-(

Claude 

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From: dl80@gmx.net

Thanx a lot for this great idea!
(i mean softkick)... but there´s a problem ... on aminet i can only find
some specific softkickers (e.g. for blizzard,68040 a.s.o....)
where can i find THAT softkick that i need? (os2.0 to 3.0)
on aminet, too??? perhaps i am stupid, but i cant find ;-(
hope ya can help me again...

BTW: has someone of you got some example code or any idea how to create an
executable out of AMOS?? (e.g. an intromaker that saves REAL executables
direct out of an AMOS-program...)

thanx in advance...

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Thanx a lot for this great idea!
> (i mean softkick)... but there´s a problem ... on aminet i can only find
> some specific softkickers (e.g. for blizzard,68040 a.s.o....)
> where can i find THAT softkick that i need? (os2.0 to 3.0)
> on aminet, too??? perhaps i am stupid, but i cant find ;-(
> hope ya can help me again...
> 
> BTW: has someone of you got some example code or any idea how to create an
> executable out of AMOS?? (e.g. an intromaker that saves REAL executables
> direct out of an AMOS-program...)

   There must be, because whats-his-name has done it with that 'klick and
play' kind of thing thats on aminet. I guess what it does is creates an
ascii Amos program and then gets the compiler extention to compile it.

   I theory it would work with a dynamically produced C or ASM program as
well.

See ya.
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From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

	Hi there

	I thought to send two things here , one is the instruction for the 
game and the other is a reply form for those who played

	Instructions:

	-After unpacking the lha , there will be a drawer called batraquio , 
assign this drawer as batraquio:
	-run BMM to play
	-the game starts right away with 2 frogs , in case you are playing 
alone , leave the other frog  alone or as a spare life
	-control:  (only joy)
		left and right make the frog walk
		up and upper diagonals make the frog hop (or get out of water)
		down and downer(!) diagonals make the frog fall from plataforms or 
enter the water
		press the button+up makes an up jump(duh)
		press the button+upper diagonals makes a diagonal jump(duh)
		press the button+left or right makes a more diagonal jump
		while jumping(not hoping) push down to make a straight escape to 
the water
		while on the air(not escaping) press button to use the tongue
	-objectives:
		eat all fly on the level , then enter the water(both frogs) to dive 
to the next level
		
	Form: (if you play the game ,please, fill this form and send to me) 

	How do you like the playability? any ideas?
	How do you like the control? any ideas?
	How do you like the gfx and sfx? any ideas?
	Thing it could be commercial somehow? (ho ho ho and a bottle of cd-
rum)
	Any extra comments?

	-Oh there is a third thing , hints...
	The energy gauge goes to 40
		-a fly eaten adds 1 energy
		-a wasp hit decreases 2 ene (red fly)
		-a marimbondo hit decreases 5 ene (a bit bigger then fly grey bug)
		-a libelula(fire fly) eaten adds 5 energy
		-a mamangava hit decreases 10 ene (big fat black bug)
		-hits on the other frogs , nothing happens
		-an urubu(blue bird) hit decreases 5 ene
		-a crocodile bite causes instant death , watch out!
	This is a very last modified version , I tried to make it a lot 
easier as before cause since I tested it all along , I was always 
making it harder based on me.
	When you perform a jump , while going up , you will hit the other 
frog , but watch as it flips your direction! so as when escaping!
	There is a lot more to it but I will get to it later on as i guess 
you are all bored reading this
	oh , one more thing , there is a really cool intro picture Leto 
Kauler made for it but since I did not add any front end at all , it 
is not there , anybody wanna see it tell me! (thks leto!)
	See ya all!	

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From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se

> "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net> wrote:
> 
>>Ouch.  Slow card.  Jumpers ?  Too obvious.  Is it the actual SLOTS that
are
>>slow, or something plugged into them ?  Either way, its an interesting
>>warning, and one that requires more info !

Sure is.

>When I inquired about getting a tower for my 1200, the place warned me that
>the slots part was dodgy at best. I don't mind, since I plan on the tower
just
>for ext. kbd and more deskspace, not slots, but the slot unit has a bad
rep.

Where's the Z3/Z2 board attached? I beleve I've read somewhere that the
A1200
slot is Z2 based. I don't know if I'm right about this but if the Z3 bord
are
plugged into that, it could maybe explain why Z3s ends up so slow.

	Magnus

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
 My message direct to you failed, so I have to mail the Amos list.
 Please will you mail me a copy of the game, including a copy of Leto's
picture. 
ThanX
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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>

>You wrote:
>>I am sure this has been asked before but I have only recently got
>>my amiga online at home.

>Good feeling isn't it, Declan!  I thought it was so super actually
>/surfing/ the Net on my Miggie ;)

Hi Leto,
  It sure is but I have to say that my A1200 is not really up to surfing the
web but it is good for email, IRC, etc.  One of my main Amiga goals was to
get it online and there is great satisfaction after having done that.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

>Yes, look at IRCnet, channel #AMOS
>shell is the bot there...

I have only been on twice at different times of the day and there has been
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>> BTW: has someone of you got some example code or any idea how to create an
>> executable out of AMOS?? (e.g. an intromaker that saves REAL executables
>> direct out of an AMOS-program...)

>    There must be, because whats-his-name has done it with that 'klick and
> play' kind of thing thats on aminet. I guess what it does is creates an
> ascii Amos program and then gets the compiler extention to compile it.

I doubt whether that program on the Aminet does create an Ascii file, then pases
it to the Compiler extension, as if the program itself has been compiled, then
the program will have no access to the compiler command APCMP,(you know the dos
command) if it is used on an Amiga which doesn't use AMOS compiler. This would
mean that whats-his-name would have to include the file with the package, either
accessable through dos, or encoded into the program file itself, which is
illegal, as the compiler dos command is copyright. Or at least it was when last
I checked.
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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 23-Mar-99, Leto Kauler wrote:
>From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


>Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
>What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
>read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
>often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!

>The letter below look like "F A C"............ maybe it's just me
   
Its not crazy, its cool :)
it says 'PAC', so you wernt too far off :)

Ascii art is completely legible to me, maybe some folks cant
read it though...


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From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>

On 22-Mar-99 17:51:35 my search for intelligent life turned up this message from Declan Gorman:
 DG> From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

 DG> Hello Giark

>>Set as in gui limit, or set as in you made it big enough for three?
>>If option
>>2, you need to make a 3 character gadget *4* characters wide
>>(3+cursor).

 DG> I can't seem to find any mention of a Gui Limit in the V1.75
 DG> docs.  Or are you referring to Gadtools? Unfortunatley, to fit
 DG> all of the gadgets into my window I need the gadgets set to 3
 DG> characters wide.

Dare I say you need more windows <Arghh!>

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On 23-Mar-99 13:49:26 my search for intelligent life turned up this message from dl80:
> From: dl80@gmx.net

> Thanx a lot for this great idea!
> (i mean softkick)... but there´s a problem ... on aminet i can only
> find some specific softkickers (e.g. for blizzard,68040 a.s.o....)
> where can i find THAT softkick that i need? (os2.0 to 3.0) on
> aminet, too??? perhaps i am stupid, but i cant find ;-( hope ya can
> help me again...

The correct answer is to buy an A3000 OS3.1 kit containing the unique
A3000 ROMs as well as all the software and manuals.

If you use any other ROMs you won't have your scsi.device available,
AFAIR.


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	Hi Leto!
	long time uh?
	

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	I can't understand it either (maybe my font?)
	it is like a drawing using characters , I often saw this on the gold 
days of bbs
	Anyway , the batraquio version is a newer one you havent seen
	In case you are not tired of it (Leto saw the game from scratch)
	I can send , I'm also sending some people your pic as i think it is 
cool , hope you don't mind!
	well , how are things going?
	See ya!

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>Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
>What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
>read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
>often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!


I can read it..  Whats the probs ?  Are you using a proportional font or
something ?  You are supposed to be using fixed fonts, unless otherwise
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>>Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
>>What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
>>read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
>>often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!
>Its not crazy, its cool :)
>it says 'PAC', so you wernt too far off :)


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From: Rune Keller <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>

On 24-Mar-99, Peter Cahill wrote:

>> Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
>> What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
>> read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
>> often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!
> 
>> The letter below look like "F A C"............ maybe it's just me
>   
> Its not crazy, its cool :)
> it says 'PAC', so you wernt too far off :)
> 
> Ascii art is completely legible to me, maybe some folks cant
> read it though...

YAM 2 can't use fixed size fonts, so it's pretty hard to read here... :(

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

Hello Rune

On 24-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Rune Keller <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>
> 
> On 24-Mar-99, Peter Cahill wrote:
> 
>>> Sorry, Peter C., but I've just picked your signature randomly.
>>> What I want to ask people though, is how many of you can actually
>>> read this crazy ASCII pic / text stuff???????  I see it all too
>>> often and more often than not, it is simply unreadable to me!
>> 
>>> The letter below look like "F A C"............ maybe it's just me
>>   
>> Its not crazy, its cool :)
>> it says 'PAC', so you wernt too far off :)
>> 
>> Ascii art is completely legible to me, maybe some folks cant
>> read it though...
> 
> YAM 2 can't use fixed size fonts, so it's pretty hard to read here... :(

I use YAM 2, and it has fixwed fonts as default.
 
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From: Rune Keller <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>

On 24-Mar-99, Torbjörn Lindquist wrote:
>> YAM 2 can't use fixed size fonts, so it's pretty hard to read here... :(
> 
> I use YAM 2, and it has fixwed fonts as default.

That's REAL strange! I have selected Use Fixed Font in the Read settings, but
the font still ain't fixed! How did you do?

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>>> YAM 2 can't use fixed size fonts, so it's pretty hard to read here... :(
>> I use YAM 2, and it has fixwed fonts as default.
>That's REAL strange! I have selected Use Fixed Font in the Read settings,
but
>the font still ain't fixed! How did you do?


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Lindquist <linkan@ljusdal.se>

Hello Rune

On 25-Mar-99, you wrote:

> That's REAL strange! I have selected Use Fixed Font in the Read settings,
> but the font still ain't fixed! How did you do?

I didn't do anything, I use the default settings while reading, writing
mails.
 
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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

 DG> I can't seem to find any mention of a Gui Limit in the V1.75
 DG> docs.  Or are you referring to Gadtools? Unfortunatley, to fit
 DG> all of the gadgets into my window I need the gadgets set to 3
 DG> characters wide.

>Dare I say you need more windows <Arghh!>

No, as this particular GUI needs to be one single window.  Although now that
I think of it, I am limiting myself to a screen width of 654.  So the
obvious thing to do is use a larger screen......Unfortunatley I am at
present using a 14 inch portable  tv for my Amiga and don't see myself
getting a monitor for a few more months and anything larger than 654 would
involve scrolling the screen.

Can I ask you guys if you use monitors, what model they are and what is your
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On 25-Mar-99 Declan Gorman wrote:
> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
> 
>  DG> I can't seem to find any mention of a Gui Limit in the V1.75
>  DG> docs.  Or are you referring to Gadtools? Unfortunatley, to fit
>  DG> all of the gadgets into my window I need the gadgets set to 3
>  DG> characters wide.
> 
>>Dare I say you need more windows <Arghh!>
> 
> No, as this particular GUI needs to be one single window.  Although now

I just joined this list, and this is the only part of this thread I have
seen, so forgive me if I go over something that has been covered already,
or if I have the wrong end of the stick.

Would a tabbed window do the trick (many pages full of gadgets)?  I
haven't seen this Gui V1.75, or any version, but I have programed a tabbed
window from scratch, and it's damn simple in any GUI system.  A row of
buttons along the top, each button will hide the currently displayed
gadgets, and show it's own gadgets.  All else in a typical tab is bells
and whistles.

Why do you need so many gadgets on one window?  A redesign  of the GUI
might help.  Use menus and other things to hide some of the gadgets. 
Scroll the window.

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On 25-Mar-99 Declan Gorman wrote:
> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
>
>>Would a tabbed window do the trick (many pages full of gadgets)?  I
>>haven't seen this Gui V1.75, or any version, but I have programed a
>>tabbed
>>window from scratch, and it's damn simple in any GUI system.  A row of
>>buttons along the top, each button will hide the currently displayed
>>gadgets, and show it's own gadgets.  All else in a typical tab is bells
>>and whistles.
> 
> Tabs are not available within GadTools which the GUI extension is based
> upon
> and I have not mastered using MUI or ClassAct within Amos.

That's why I mentioned the simple way of rolling your own tabs.  Since you
already have setup your window with lots of buttons and things, a few
extra buttons are trivial, the hard part is hiding and showing specific
controls, but that could also be easy if the language (or extension in
this case) supports it.

I see that you may have a good case for your current setup though.  I
would be very interested in seeing it as you suggested, especially since I
have designed a few MIDI devices and programs in my time.

Somewhere on my resume it says I am experienced in hanging out with
musicians and drummers, just so I could study how they work and design
nice user interfaces for them.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

Hello David and welcome to the list.

>Would a tabbed window do the trick (many pages full of gadgets)?  I
>haven't seen this Gui V1.75, or any version, but I have programed a tabbed
>window from scratch, and it's damn simple in any GUI system.  A row of
>buttons along the top, each button will hide the currently displayed
>gadgets, and show it's own gadgets.  All else in a typical tab is bells
>and whistles.

Tabs are not available within GadTools which the GUI extension is based upon
and I have not mastered using MUI or ClassAct within Amos.

>Why do you need so many gadgets on one window?

I am doing an interface for one of my midi keyboards, Yamaha AN1x, where I
can change all parameters on screen, etc. etc.
One feature of the AN1x is the pattern sequencer where you can have a range
of steps from 1 - 16.  The best representation I could do of this sequencer
is a slider for each step and 3 other gadgets representing some other
related values.  So all gadgets need to be on screen at all times.

>A redesign  of the GUI might help.

I have already re-designed it twice or three times and am left with what I
think is the best and most user friendly GUI.

>Use menus and other things to hide some of the gadgets.

Not really viable in this case.

>Scroll the window.

Personally I think it makes the GUI look ugly and unprofessional.

Thanks for the ideas.

I will post a picture of the GUI the net for you guys to have a look at to
see my dilemma and the points raised above.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

I am also subscribed to the Amiga Format mailing list and recently Amos was
brought up.  Ben Vost, associate editor of Amiga Format, made the following
comments which I think should be seriously considered regarding the future
of Amos.......

It started by someone requesting that game programmers use a screen type
requester when the games boot up so users can choose the appropriate screen
type.

Bens first comment was :

"just put that it was written in Amos and *no-one* will bother trying to run
it... :)"

I replied asking if that was his personal opinion and that a lot of AF
reader games are written in Amos and even some commercial games.

Ben replied :

"I can only speak for myself, but Amos tends not to like any recent Amiga
equipment - you know, like 040+ CPUs, AGA or graphics cards, resolutions
different to HiRes NonLaced (640x200-256). It doesn't take advantage of
more memory, has a horrible filerequester, doesn't allow for things like
AssignX and doesn't respond to assigns anyway (everything seems
hardcoded) and hundreds more reasons why I don't tend to run anything I
know's been programmed with Amos. Also the programmers don't tend to be
rigorous with their code resulting in many more crashes than its
necessary. I know that this is mainly because Amos programmers tend to
be newbies, but not testing your app on someone else's Amiga before
inflicting on the rest of the world is inexcusable.

Yes, a lot of reader games have been written in Amos - and would you
spend a tenner on any of them? No offence to the reader game authors,
but it's unlikely they'll ever get poached by a commercial software
company to produce yet another breakout clone. The only reader games in
AF to become commercial titles were Worms and Alien F1, to my knowledge,
and perhaps Worms started out in Amos (I don't think it did), but it was
certainly programmed in a different package by the time it came out as
an AGA-only title. The only commercial games I know of written in Amos
were the Valhalla series and some of Vulcan's other early games. And at
least they were properly tested.

Sorry if I've ranted, but I wish people would let go of Amos now. No-one
is using any other software from 1989 now... (cue flood of people saying
that they are...)"

My comments were obviously in it's defence giving some details about the new
release but not able to give a release date.

Ben replied :

"I did know of an update, but I hadn't
heard anything from the authors for ages.
People won't be using it because they won't know it exists...
:("

Other comments......

Andrew Martin :

"Amos is good but old and fairly inflexible, most amigans dismiss it is a
bit over the hill, or least the demo scene coders do anyway (apart from
the amos coders scene ;) )"

Tony Horgan (of CU Amiga fame) :

"Even though AMOS was in a list of things we hate about
the Amiga in the last CU, you can't deny it's allowed
some programmers to realise their ideas when otherwise
they would probably never have happened at all.

EG, 303Tracker, and the old realtime audio effects
processor called... erm... whatever it was. It had nice
effects and was better than anything else at the job."

--

As a result of this someone decided to do poll which included the following
criteria

o I love it.
   o It did good PR job for the Amiga, but it's had it's day.
   o Still good for beginners but not for released programs.
   o I hate it with a passion.


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=922357623496

So, why not register with egroups, it's free, and cast your vote in favour
of Amos.

--

Some questions that Ben asked that I would like to answer

Who is writing good quality software for the Amiga using Amos?
What good commercial products were written using Amos?

If we could gather a list and present it to him, perhaps we could change his
mind.  Can anyone help?

--

So, what do you people think?  Personally I think Ben is a good bloke but I
just had to retaliate.  Any comments or feedback to help our (my?) cause
would be appreciated.

To subscribe and get in on the action goto http://www.egroups.com/list/afb/

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On 25-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:

> "I can only speak for myself, but Amos tends not to like any recent Amiga
> equipment - you know, like 040+ CPUs,

Ehh!!?? My AMOS loves my 060...

> It doesn't take advantage of
> more memory,

Ehh!!?? My AMOS takes advantage of my 128MB Ram...

> has a horrible filerequester,

Which no coder in their right mind would ever use!

> doesn't allow for things like
> AssignX and doesn't respond to assigns anyway (everything seems
> hardcoded)

Ehh!!?? I use assigns in all my programs! My AMOS definetly responds to
assigns!

> Also the programmers don't tend to be
> rigorous with their code resulting in many more crashes than its
> necessary.

It might just be my system, but 75% of all Blitz programs (which the exact same
editor LOVES!) crashes. Only like 10% of AMOS programs do...

> and perhaps Worms started out in Amos (I don't think it did), but it was
> certainly programmed in a different package by the time it came out as
> an AGA-only title.

Worms is NOT AGA-only! It is coded in Blitz, and I think to remember, that it
started out in AMOS. Not sure about that, though.

> The only commercial games I know of written in Amos
> were the Valhalla series and some of Vulcan's other early games. And at
> least they were properly tested.

The Prophet (one full page preview in AF#122)

Rasputin games (Basejumpers and some game similiar to Wings Of Fury)

Flight Of The Amazon Queen (atleast partly)

Alien Breed 3d (only the editor)

GRAAL (don't know if this is commercial?)

All done in Amos.

> Sorry if I've ranted, but I wish people would let go of Amos now. No-one
> is using any other software from 1989 now... (cue flood of people saying
> that they are...)"

If AMOS is from 1989, then Workbench must be from 1985... Doesn't he use that?
Dating any program from their first release is one of the most stupid things,
I've ever heard!

> Some questions that Ben asked that I would like to answer
> 
> Who is writing good quality software for the Amiga using Amos?

> What good commercial products were written using Amos?

The above mentioned. Although I don't know if they're any good (except FOTAQ).

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> (...)
> So, what do you people think?  Personally I think Ben is a good bloke but I
> just had to retaliate.  Any comments or feedback to help our (my?) cause
> would be appreciated.

I think Amos is considered by Amigans like Amiga is considered by
Peeceeists:
<< Okay, it exists, they are only 14 people using it,
and all they can do is sh*t >>

It's up to us to make decent software. When we upload it on Aminet,
upload it in the right directory (I.e. game/2play). Don't say loudly
it's Amos, but say it somewhere (in the readme file nobody reads).

We don't have to be ashamed to use Amos, but user must ignore the 
programming language that has been used.
After all, nobody claims "I wrote it in C" or "C++" or "Asm" or
anything... 

That's why I've totally rewritten an FSEL procedure in my Midi
Sequencer,
for example.

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Hi,
I am having trouble with a piece of code which scans a directory, I want the
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>I think Amos is considered by Amigans like Amiga is considered by
>Peeceeists:
><< Okay, it exists, they are only 14 people using it,
>and all they can do is sh*t >>
>

I totally agree.

AMOS was designed to be a beginner's language, easy and quick to use. It's probably
got a bad rep exactly because a lot of beginners use it and so the standard
is not always up to that of a professional bit of code. You *CAN* write good
software with it (a good game doesn't have to have multipolygon 3d texture-mapped
objects running at 50fps). 

I agree it's probably showing it's age now, but it's still a better hobby than
train spotting (IMHO) !

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

Hmm, you might want to point out to him that SoloTrek II was written in AMOS.
It was never submitted for review, but it was reviewed by them anyway. Quite a
favourable review, in fact.

The unfortunate truth is the mass of amosidiots out there who write a copy of
hangman as their first project and upload it to aminet. I would like to see a
site go up for amos programs that are tested and have a degree of quality
control before they make it to the public. Look at Sneech, there's a game that
stands up to the challenge, and it's AMOS.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: dl80@gmx.net

hi there,

some years ago, i´ve noticed an AMOS-3d-Game-Demo... it was a real
3d-Engine like in DOOM-games... does someone of you know where to get some
demos,infos on amos and texture-mapping?? (or has some source-code for this topic) ?

thanx!

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From: Ian Ison <triadian_uk@yahoo.com>



--- dl80@gmx.net wrote:
> From: dl80@gmx.net
> 
> hi there,
> 
> some years ago, i´ve noticed an AMOS-3d-Game-Demo...
> it was a real
> 3d-Engine like in DOOM-games... does someone of you
> know where to get some
> demos,infos on amos and texture-mapping?? (or has
> some source-code for this topic) ?
> 
> thanx!
> 
> bye. dl80.
> 

also send to me PLease !!!!!
Triadian_UK@Yahoo.com

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello, AMOS listers

I really don't understand why people have anything against AMOS. It is a
flavour of BASIC. BASIC is a language for beginners, not a high-power hard
to learn computer nurds language. If I had all the time in the world I
would learn C, but I've a hundred other things to do. I wanted to know
about programming. I have no dreams of creating a commercial game. AMOS
gave me the power of magic over my Amiga. I have always seen it as a
perfect companion to the friendliness of the Amiga. Within a few hours of
receiving my AMOS disks I was doing amazing things with it. This is in
complete contrast to Blitz which I got to do nothing. What a a waste of
money that was!
Of course it's dated, what do you expect in the circumstances. 
So what if readers games look amateurish!
If you clever guys can use AMOS to create professional games thats great,
good luck to you, it shows how powerful AMOS /really/ is.
AMOS and my Amiga have given me enormous pleasure over the past years, no
one can detract from that. 
---------------
I stick 2 fingers up to Ben Vost, can he really afford to offend any of his
subscribers? I'll hold him in the same esteem as those PC owning toss-pots
that laugh
at the Amiga.
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very appropriate to the message!
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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>I agree it's probably showing it's age now, but it's still a better hobby
than
>train spotting (IMHO) !


So, now someone is gonna combine the two, and take video input from a
camera, and auto-digitize it, feed it into a database, and totally automate
train spotting.

(not that I'm that mad)

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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Declan!

Den 25-Mar-99 skrev Declan Gorman:


DG> "I can only speak for myself, but Amos tends not to like any recent
DG> Amiga equipment - you know, like 040+ CPUs, AGA or graphics cards,
DG> resolutions different to HiRes NonLaced (640x200-256). It doesn't take
DG> advantage of more memory, has a horrible filerequester, doesn't allow
DG> for things like AssignX and doesn't respond to assigns anyway

All, I can say, is that poor sucker(pardon my french) does obviosly
ONLY know a VERY old version of AMOS, the first would be my gues.

Yes, Amos has, so far no AGA/GFX-card support, but it'll come I hope.
After my experience, there is NO problems in using 040+, and ram,
I use AmosPro 2 on my setup( see bottom of letter), without any
problems at all, and the file requesters, I'll bet he means the
Amosclassic again, AmosPro is a little better, but then again WHO
is using those requesters???, one make there own or use asl/req.

But, Ben W. can't make my P*SS boil, he had a bad dream about Amos,
and think he is the GREAT HERO who has to free the world for such a
menace.

Ben think he know's a lot about Amos, but, all most all the "facts" he is
so glad to share, is false, becaurse Ben has NEVER seen Amos nor used it,
all he does is picking up alot of gossip, and think it's the truth.

My advice, IGNORE Ben W. and what he's saying about Amos, if you'r happy
using Amos, then do it, it's not Ben you should make happy, but you'r self.

If you has not guest it yet, I LOVE AMOS ;)) 


_**#DO* *NOT* flame me about my big sig. it's only added when there#*_
_*#is need for my setup to be seen.#*_


*#I hope you all could read and understand my poor english.#*

If you know a program called "SnapShot v2.3 (1995/04/7)"
It's a Startup-Sequence protector sort of, it remembers
how your system was and when you boot, if there has been
anything changed it'll tell you about it.

I've made a BETTER version IMHO ;), it features:
Maine program :)
Configurations program
Configfile and chkfile is Cryptoprotected
and some more.


But I need some one to translate/write docs from
Danish to English, before I can release it to Aminet '(.


MSG for PIETRO!!!!!
Where is the new stuff??? move them fingers, a bit faster B).



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From: amos-list <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>


I have a pre-release version of my new game #WiZ²# finished, and I would
really appreciate having some feedback on it from you guys before I release
it to the Masses. 

Basically it's a platform 'Mario' style game with a few extras.

I'm particularly interested in any bugs and how it performs on various
machine specs.

If you would like to play it then drop me an E-mail and I will forward you a
copy (130k compressed lha).


Cheers,

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Sorry - just testing my setup (I'm not amos-list!!).


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> >  What is the latest on the GUI extension?
> 
> Waiting for info from Pietro on about 25 commands.

This sounds to me like Pietro has lost internet connection again. He
didn't respond to any of my mails either.

Does anyone have any way of contacting him to see what's up?

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Hello floquet

On 25-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "floquet" <floquet@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr>
> 
> Hello Amossians,
> 
> I wrote a little prog that is a card trick.
> If you wanna be surprised, download it !
> If you wanna surprise your friends, download it !
> If you like me, download it !
> It's magic ! It works ! It's fun ! It's Amiga !
> Adress below.
> 
Regards


Hey... that was really cool, man. It fooled the wife anyway. 

Can't wait to try it on some other poor sucker !


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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

As promised, a picture of my GUI can be viewed at
http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/gfx/sequence.gif

Let me know what you think.

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On 25-Mar-99, amos-list wrote:
>From: amos-list <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>


>I have a pre-release version of my new game #WiZ²# finished, and I would
>really appreciate having some feedback on it from you guys before I release
>it to the Masses. 

>Basically it's a platform 'Mario' style game with a few extras.

>I'm particularly interested in any bugs and how it performs on various
>machine specs.

>If you would like to play it then drop me an E-mail and I will forward you a
>copy (130k compressed lha).


>Cheers,

>Steve.

Hi Steve,
  I will test it for you on my A1200 030, just email it to me as soon as you
can.

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Hi all,

Whatever happened to that LW util someone was coding.?
(to "say" the frame its currently rendering and how
long the last one took.?)

I've not heard anything for a while.?

and I can't remember who was coding it :)


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From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

	Hi Steve

	I will test too on my naked a4000 
	Just send it over
	but send to erico@tecnopro.com.br
	(no www)

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--- amos-list <eaborn@powernet.co.uk> wrote:
> From: amos-list <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>
> 
> 
> I have a pre-release version of my new game #WiZ²#
> finished, and I would
> really appreciate having some feedback on it from you
> guys before I release
> it to the Masses. 
> 
> Basically it's a platform 'Mario' style game with a
> few extras.
> 
> I'm particularly interested in any bugs and how it
> performs on various
> machine specs.
> 
> If you would like to play it then drop me an E-mail
> and I will forward you a
> copy (130k compressed lha).
> 
I`ll Playtest It For You And The Amount Of Stuff in My Startup-sequence
Should give it a good test run 4.2 meg used in startup alone

p.s. if anyone would like to see my excellent WB with a nice little amos
talking lcd screen on it then drop us a line 
________
/riadian.

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From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>

On 25-Mar-99 02:42:52 my search for intelligent life turned up this
message from Declan Gorman:

 DG> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

 DG>> I can't seem to find any mention of a Gui Limit in the V1.75
 DG>> docs.  Or are you referring to Gadtools? Unfortunatley, to fit
 DG>> all of the gadgets into my window I need the gadgets set to 3
 DG>> characters wide.

>>Dare I say you need more windows <Arghh!>

 DG> No, as this particular GUI needs to be one single window. 
 DG> Although now that I think of it, I am limiting myself to a screen
 DG> width of 654.  So the obvious thing to do is use a larger
 DG> screen......Unfortunatley I am at present using a 14 inch
 DG> portable  tv for my Amiga and don't see myself getting a monitor
 DG> for a few more months and anything larger than 654 would involve
 DG> scrolling the screen.

I can see your need since viewing your interface.

We can make this work, I'm sure!

Your next option is to create your own input routine so that the
cursor never moves beyond the last character or before the first.

Watch for a keypress
  Interpret
  Format
  Print
  Place cursor for next keypress
Loop

Quite a bit of code, but fast enough when compiled, and as
versatile as you desire.


 DG> Can I ask you guys if you use monitors, what model they are and
 DG> what is your workbench screen size set to.  Thanks.

I use an 800 X 600 16 bit workbench and a Magnascan/15 (Magnavox
AutoScan (1501?), 15") driven by a PicassoIV/P96.

I've switched to a 13 point font as default; these eyes are aging a
bit, so I really don't fit much more text on a screen than a standard
workbench but pictures are beautiful!

I always try to make interfaces accessable to as many users as
possible so I recommend that you try to keep your window(s) within
hi-res specs.


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>Whatever happened to that LW util someone was coding.?
>(to "say" the frame its currently rendering and how
>long the last one took.?)
>I've not heard anything for a while.?
>and I can't remember who was coding it :)

   Hahaha... that was me.  Yes, it worked rather dandy too!
   Problem is I am in the process of selling everything (well, 
   almost everything.. keeping what I can fit in the car with me)
   and moving (1,000 miles to Missouri) in about ten days now.
   Been busy doing this all month and the Amiga has been packed
   away for a while now.

   I should have it up and running again by mid to late April.

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>If you would like to play it then drop me an E-mail and I will forward 
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I would like to have one, please!




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From: "John Glanville" <John.Glanville@btinternet.com>

Hey every1 My brother is on the AFB and Ben Vost (Amiga format editor) sent
this mail to the list:


I have just finished going through the shareware section of AFCD
38,
and one thing has stood out more than anything else... Promotable
games.

Not even promotable - games which use a screen chooser at the start by
default and *don't* force you to promote them. The main problem is that
people are still using programming laguages that have no support for the
display database... :(

Even if you cant make your games Promotable, then please specify the
fact
in the 'Requirements' section of the docs, so we dont run the game,
then
have to reboot to get out of it :)

(Or just put that it was written in Amos and *no-one* will bother trying
to run it... :)

All the best,
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Hi all,

Yes I would love to play test it also.  Please email the demo to me as
well.  I look forward to playing it.

Thanks,
Andy H.

> > From: amos-list <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>
> >
> >
> > I have a pre-release version of my new game #WiZ²#
> > finished, and I would
> > really appreciate having some feedback on it from you
> > guys before I release
> > it to the Masses.
> >
> > Basically it's a platform 'Mario' style game with a
> > few extras.
> >
> > I'm particularly interested in any bugs and how it
> > performs on various
> > machine specs.
> >
> > If you would like to play it then drop me an E-mail
> > and I will forward you a
> > copy (130k compressed lha).
> >

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On 25-Mar-99 Declan Gorman wrote:
> From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>
> 
> As promised, a picture of my GUI can be viewed at
> http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/gfx/sequence.gif

What are all those numbers in the middle for?  What range for those
numbers?

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Has anyone got some interesting configuration of AMOSPro?

Could be some nice colorsetup of the mainscreen etc....


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Hello Erico


> From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
> 
>     Hello Steve
> 
>     As said...
>     
>>     Here you go, have fun !
> 
>     I had good fun!
> 

Glad to hear it !

>>     Let me know what you think.
> 
>     First here goes my system ,  for the logs:
>         A4000 030 (ec) , 6mb , fpu (33)

No problem there then :)

>     
>     I found the game really cool , i guess it just needs:
>         -gfx redone for some parts , mainly scenary , I love the wiz and 
> specially the thief!

Yes. I haven't been paying much attention to the landscape graphics to be
honest, but I have loads of available icons, so this will probably by my
next job.

>         -I liked the sfx!

Really? I didn't think they were much cop, except the powerup sfx maybe.

>         -More action on some parts , but that may already be done if you 
> planned a  LOT more levels than this

Yes, there will be more levels. Not sure how many though. Until I get really
sick of them I suppose. I am also toying with the idea of releasing the
landscape editor when I've tidied it up a bit so that anyone that wants to
can make their own !

>         -One thing that pissed me off was the fact that loosing a life
also 
> looses ALL the magic power ups , maybe you could add a way to keep 
> some powers , like a scroll (like the shield one) that would 
> recuperate one power level when you loose a life(just an example). It 
> gets really confortable when you have all the powers but when you 
> loose the  difference is huge

Hmm. I'll have to have a think about that one. Can't make it too easy, eh ?

>         -Of course more different powers and scrolls

I found this one of the hardest things to come up with. Any suggestions ?

>     Bugs:
>         -on the last level , there is a kind of rock castle(on the left) 
> with fires outside(on the right , plus a green switch more to the 
> right) and thieves inside(the castle) , there happened a flick on all 
> bobs when they reached the lower left part of the castle , apart from 
> this , everything was in sync        

As they are computed sprites, care must be taken when choosing their start
position so that they don't overlap too much on the horizontal, otherwise
you get the flicker. Careful level design and testing should avoid this.

>         -one level before this , there are two candles with a life 
> in between  , I guess those two fires were placed some pixels wrong 
> to the left , all other candles with fire were ok and in place

Ooo, I thought I'd fixed that. Must take another look.

>         -thats it

OK!

> 
>     If there is something specific you want me to pay attention , just 
> ask.
>     Now for some curiosities... 
>     -I could not find a way to get that life on the first level , the 
> only way was after beating all levels and reestarting with some jump 
> power

It can be done first time around... but I'm not telling :p

>     -those arrows are really nasty!!!! I always forget they fall when 
> hit something and ended up beeing cought by surprise!!!!!!!

The are, aren't they !

>     -Some levels behind doors I could not reach , like the door with 
> bars that require a black key , full of jumpy things and covered by 
> blocks.
> 

Pesky blocks.

>     There is more , I will tell you later as I play more
>     See ya!
> 

Thanks for the feedback !

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On 27-Mar-99, David Seikel wrote:
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>What are all those numbers in the middle for?  What range for those
>numbers?

They represent Midi Velocity, Gate Time & Continuous Controller Values and
there is one for each step in the sequencer.  It is a bit cramped but after
much thought and re-designing, this seemed to fit best on the screen size I am
using.  When I eventually get a monitor I will hopefully re-design it for a
larger screen.  But until then......

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On 27-Mar-99 Declan Gorman wrote:
> They represent Midi Velocity, Gate Time & Continuous Controller Values
> and
> there is one for each step in the sequencer.  It is a bit cramped but

Then it does look like you have pretty much got the best layout taking
into account your desire to have it all on one window and all visible at
once.  I don't suppose that you could use a smaller font to uncramp those
numbers?

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>

You wrote:
>Can I ask you guys if you use monitors, what model they are and
>what is your workbench screen size set to.  Thanks.

Sure. I've got a (cr*p) 1084S with Workbench set to 640x256 with
no overscan.

Anyone got any recommendations for a new monitor as my eyes are
going bonkers with using interlace!!!!!

  -- Leto
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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>


Hi Garfield

>   Hahaha... that was me.  Yes, it worked rather dandy too!
>   Problem is I am in the process of selling everything (well, 
>   almost everything.. keeping what I can fit in the car with me)
>   and moving (1,000 miles to Missouri) in about ten days now.
>   Been busy doing this all month and the Amiga has been packed
>   away for a while now.

oh.. hehe okay :)

>   I should have it up and running again by mid to late April.

great...!! 

Regards
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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

On 27-Mar-99, Hubbe Hubbe wrote:
>From: Hubbe Hubbe <grok@flashback.net>



>Has anyone got some interesting configuration of AMOSPro?

>Could be some nice colorsetup of the mainscreen etc....

I remember seeing an alternative set of graphics for the AmosPro editor
somewhere.  I think it was aminet and they were designed by someone on the
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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

On 27-Mar-99, David Seikel wrote:
>From: David Seikel <dvs1@dvs1.aus.to>

>Then it does look like you have pretty much got the best layout taking
>into account your desire to have it all on one window and all visible at
>once.  I don't suppose that you could use a smaller font to uncramp those
>numbers?

Would you believe that I never even considered another font.  Shame on
me......

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From: dl80@gmx.net

hi there,

are some programming examples about AMOS&AMAL out there?
i´m searchin for it, because i want to try something with it...
by the way...: i am still searchin for some code on how to do simple
Audio-Effects in AMOS(i mean Echo,Reverb,phaser,Chorus and pitching and so on...)
reversing & flanging are the only things that i have already programmed in
amos (and a mixing-routine in realtime), but i want code a nice
sample-editor with lost of functionality and to do this, i need more code... :) PS:
whats with the amos-development-team?? (i mean the coders on amos-factory) ???
they said, they got amosV3 ready on dec´98 !! now we have march!! and what
is?? nothing.
hmm...

see ya later... bye! dl80. 

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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi erico!

I write to the ML, BC. you'r e-mail adr. does not work.

Den 24-Mar-99 skrev erico@www.tecnopro.com.br:

e> From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
e> 
e>     Hi there
e> 
e>     I thought to send two things here , one is the instruction for the 
e> game and the other is a reply form for those who played
e> 
e>     Instructions:
e> 
e>     -After unpacking the lha , there will be a drawer called batraquio , 
e> assign this drawer as batraquio:

Where can I get my hands on a copy of this game???

THANX!!

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From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

On 27-Mar-99, dl80@gmx.net wrote:
>From: dl80@gmx.net

>hi there,

>are some programming examples about AMOS&AMAL out there?

Check out  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6256/amos.html and
download all of the Mr AMOS Club disk magazines.  There are some good examples
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From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>

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_AMOS LIST CV_

Keep this CV for later reference

Last updated:
    March 26, 1999

CV for:
    Rand R. Fredricksen

Gender:
    Male

Of:
    Wheeling, IL  USA (a Chicago suburb)

Age:
    44.703
        (I had a 33 1/3 birthday party, like an L.P. if anyone
         remembers those things :)
         Next is 45, then 78!

Birthday:
    You should get close

Occupation:
    Ironworker

Real Amiga or emulator?
    Amiga 3000

How long have you been using an Amiga?
    Since the A500 hit the shelves, late 1987?

If you have a real Amiga, what is it's specification?
    I have an A3000/25/3.1 10+2Megs/2Gig PicassoIV/IOBlix CD-ROM/ZIP
    The wife and kids use an Amiga 500/'020/16/3.0 8+1Megs/700Megs
    The garage holds an A500/000/8/2.1 4+1Megs/120Megs/SCSI ZIP

What is your main Amiga activity?
    Surfing, lately. I hate that AMOS can't use an interlaced screen.
    I tried learning C++ last winter, went back to work too soon ;)
    I started playing a bit with ACE, but I think I may as well learn C.

How long have you used Amos?
    Since I bought a second A-500, early 1988?

What version of Amos do you have?
    AMOSPro 2.0 (the Compiler update)

What Amos extensions do you have?
    Intuition Extension v1.3b, AMOSPro GUI Extension v1.7, the
    standard extensions which came with Pro and the compiler.

Other computer languages used and competence level:
    FORTRAN, A+ (1972)
    BASIC, pretty darn good :)
    ML, got fairly good on my C-128
    C/C++, rudimentary
    AmigaDOS, not a bad scripter
    ARexx, can modify scripts that work
    AmigaVision, what can I say?

Amos achievements:
    Composite Man (a memory exercise)
    Magic Door (an odds example)
    Listener (and X-10 CP-290 reader and FinalData converter; next a
        writer)
    RPM Chart (run your car through the gears)(done twice, new and
        improved coming soon!)
    Amortizere (compute an amortization table)(in slow progress)

Amiga achievements:
    What? Like buying three of the buggers and tons of software and
        shareware?

Your Website:
    http://www.netwave.net/members/rand
    mailto:rand@mail.netwave.net

Website recommendations:
    http://www.wxrt.com WXRT Radio Chicago
        for the best local site I know of.

Other interests/achievements: (can be non computer related)
    I guess I'm about as middle class voting American as you can
    imagine. See my page for details.

Your comments: (about, Amos - Amiga - computers - anything that
won't upset a family audience!)

    I really don't need to wish for a new Amiga, I just wish someone
    would produce the old ones again.

    If it ain't broke', don't fix it.


    I wish they bundled a genlock and the appropriate software with a
    CD-32 type box and keyboard/mouse. And a networking option.

    Upper-middle class Americans would jump at the chance to draw on
    thier home videos for about $750. Don't even tell them it's a
    computer ;)

    Then sneak the software up on them. First, a cheap game for the
    kids. Then, LQQK! the kids can use the Amiga to do homework.

    Hah! Now they need another so dad can surf the 'net, mom wants to
    keep an address/birthday/appointment book...


    It's a shame that people are in such a mindset that they think
    they need a computer. And then they don't think they need more
    than one?


    And so what if it isn't the fastest computer in the world? It's
    not going to be unless you buy a Cray anyhow.

    Better graphics, okay. But if the game is good then it will last,
    no matter if you have sixteen colors or sixty-four million colors.

    I would sooner have two slower computers than one really fast one.
    What the hell, my computer spends about 95% of it's time waiting
    for input.


    Can't people see that different computers are better at different
    things? And that while one person is using one computer, someone
    else can use another?

 - Rand
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> I have a pre-release version of my new game #WiZ²# finished, and I would
> really appreciate having some feedback on it from you guys before I
> release it to the Masses. If you would like to play it then drop me an E
> mail and I will forward you a copy (130k compressed lha).

Go ahead and send me a copy as well. The setup I'm running is an
A2000 'o4o/25, 1mb Chip, 16mb Fast, 500mb HD, WB 2.1 (or 3.1, if needed)

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Just my take on some of Ben Vost's AMOS views:
> but Amos tends not to like any recent Amiga equipment
Well, this is a totally subjective statement, depending on your hardware.

> like 040+ CPUs
AMOS doesn't mind my PP&S '040/25.

> It doesn't take advantage of more memory,
Not so, as I have over 16mb fast, and AMOS runs.

> has a horrible filerequester,
This is something we can agree on..

> doesn't respond to assigns anyway (everything seems hardcoded)
As for AMOSPro, this is entirely untrue, since I use Assign all the time.

> and hundreds more reasons why I don't tend to
> run anything I know's been programmed with Amos.
hehe, it would be nice to SEE those hundred+ reasons.

> Also the programmers don't tend to be rigorous with their
> code resulting in many more crashes than its necessary.
This is true, but just because an AMOS program is structured poorly doesn't
mean that it will crash your machine, as AMOS compensates good for this.

> Sorry if I've ranted, but I wish people would let go of Amos now.
If Amiga users let go of the Amiga the same way he suggests AMOS users let
go of AMOS, where would either be today? In the same way the Amiga floats
on the surface of the rumors of the Amiga community, so does AMOS.

> No-one is using any other software from 1989 now...
> (cue flood of people saying that they are...)"
It is true that AMOS is old, but so are many other programs people use.

> So, why not register with egroups, it's free,
> and cast your vote in favour of Amos.
I have registered and I casted my vote under 'I love it'.

> Who is writing good quality software for the Amiga using Amos?
> What good commercial products were written using Amos?
These are two good questions. Hopefully, they can be answered.

> If we could gather a list and present it to him,
> perhaps we could change his mind. Can anyone help?
This sounds like a good idea. I'm up to help if anyone else is.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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> some years ago, i´ve noticed an AMOS-3d-Game-Demo... it was a real
> 3d-Engine like in DOOM-games... does someone of you know where to get
> some demos,infos on amos and texture-mapping??

Here's some source from an issue of DoubleClick (an Amiga e-zine). It can't
do more than Wolfenstein, but it shows how to write a basic Wolfenstein-er
without objects or the like (the code is somewhat messy). I used it as a
base for a 3D level I'm writing for CBATNAM (team project), but added
support for things like sliding doors and (soon) objects and enemies.

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Hello erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

On 08-Apr-99, erico@www.tecnopro.com.br wrote:
> From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br
> 
>     Hello all
> 
>     my mail adr is erico@tecnopro.com.br
>     don't know where that www comes from (I use pc for mail)
>     
>     for those that got my game , can you tell me if it all went ok?
>     just send the comments throught the list
> 
>     thanks!


Hiya,

It ran fine, good speed scrolling for Amos. One of those games that gets you
playing and playing. Up the graphical detail and you could win Amiga Format's
reader's games :)

Cya soon,

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Hello everyone,

This is my first email to the list (I joined last night), so forgive
me if this has been on here before but...

Is there an extention that will let me use the DblPAL modes of the AGA
chipset?


thanks,


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From: "Frank Mathieson" <frank@massin.freeserve.co.uk>

Hello,

> What is your main Amiga activity?
>     Surfing, lately. I hate that AMOS can't use an interlaced screen.
>     I tried learning C++ last winter, went back to work too soon ;)
>     I started playing a bit with ACE, but I think I may as well learn C.

AMOS can use interlaced screens.  My game uses them.  I found that it
was a bug between OS3.1 and AMOS.  It works on OS3.0 though.

Get the update AMOS.Library from the AMOS Factory.  That fixed it for
me.

hope that sorts the problem,


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Did anyone see the PD review of my game *explosiveCHAOS* in Amiga
Format  January or February?   I only saw it at the newsagent. 
Who ever reviewed it was real tough.... perhaps deservedly so. 
Made some nice screenshots I thought...........

  -- Leto
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Hey Frank...

On 28-Mar-99, didn't you say...
>> What is your main Amiga activity?
>>     Surfing, lately. I hate that AMOS can't use an interlaced screen.
>>     I tried learning C++ last winter, went back to work too soon ;)
>>     I started playing a bit with ACE, but I think I may as well learn C.

> AMOS can use interlaced screens.  My game uses them.  I found that it
> was a bug between OS3.1 and AMOS.  It works on OS3.0 though.

> Get the update AMOS.Library from the AMOS Factory.  That fixed it for
> me.

It worked for me, too bad I cannot read what the interlaced screens say on
my Picasso IV. :(

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After some tests:

1st impression was excellent,
2nd impression was excellent too !

Want some critics ? Humm.. what could I find ?
- Put some ingame music (I know it's already in the "to do" list)
- I dislike the title screen, but I'm not an artist ;)
- Tell the player whar are the commands on the title screen, or
  on a 2nd title screen. You can also tell a small story of
  a princess you have to save or what you want.
- The end-level dragon is too easy to "beat":
  Keep the bounce but let it move left-right with a random speed.
  maybe he could burn you but it could be too hard, then.

I really liked the playability, even if it quickly becomes
hard to play.
The rolling demo gives the game a "pro" feeling.

It is really a good work that just needs some small things.
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On 29-Mar-99 Heiland-Allen,Claude wrote:
> to test ideas quickly.  Anyway, my proggy is OOP, so you can
> add new effects easily, and link lots and lots of effects
> together with feedback and stuff, which would be tricky in
> AMOS (not impossible, ask Turing ;)).

People where writing OOP long before there where OOP languages.  Anything
is possible, and often not as tricky as it seems.

>From the guy that wrote an AI system in HyperCard, and programmed a
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From: "Heiland-Allen,Claude" <CHEILA@saintolaves.demon.co.uk>

Hi

> From: dl80@gmx.net 
> by the way...: i am still searchin for some code on how to 
> do simple Audio-Effects

I am writing some fat sample processing software in Amiga E.
I stopped using AMOS seriously a while ago, but its useful
to test ideas quickly.  Anyway, my proggy is OOP, so you can
add new effects easily, and link lots and lots of effects
together with feedback and stuff, which would be tricky in
AMOS (not impossible, ask Turing ;)).

I've got some pretty cool effects (user editable filters),
but I ain't got no reverb.  I also have quiet a bit of this
stuff in QBasic, cos my Ami was out of action for a while.

If you're interested, mail me.

Claude Heiland-Allen

PS. Is this my first posting?  I have A500+ 4MB RAM 40MB HD
CD, mainly do music and programming, nothing uploaded 
anywhere yet.  My friends say my music sounds like game music, so if anyone's interested I can send you a mod or 2.


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From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

	Hello Steve

	As said...
     
>     Here you go, have fun !
 
	I had good fun!
 
>     Let me know what you think.
 
	First here goes my system ,  for the logs:
		A4000 030 (ec) , 6mb , fpu (33)
	
	I found the game really cool , i guess it just needs:
		-gfx redone for some parts , mainly scenary , I love the wiz and 
specially the thief!
		-I liked the sfx!
		-More action on some parts , but that may already be done if you 
planned a  LOT more levels than this
		-One thing that pissed me off was the fact that loosing a life also 
looses ALL the magic power ups , maybe you could add a way to keep 
some powers , like a scroll (like the shield one) that would 
recuperate one power level when you loose a life(just an example). It 
gets really confortable when you have all the powers but when you 
loose the  difference is huge
		-Of course more different powers and scrolls
	Bugs:
		-on the last level , there is a kind of rock castle(on the left) 
with fires outside(on the right , plus a green switch more to the 
right) and thieves inside(the castle) , there happened a flick on all 
bobs when they reached the lower left part of the castle , apart from 
this , everything was in sync		
		-one level before this , there are two candles with a life 
in between  , I guess those two fires were placed some pixels wrong 
to the left , all other candles with fire were ok and in place
		-thats it

	If there is something specific you want me to pay attention , just 
ask.
	Now for some curiosities... 
	-I could not find a way to get that life on the first level , the 
only way was after beating all levels and reestarting with some jump 
power
	-those arrows are really nasty!!!! I always forget they fall when 
hit something and ended up beeing cought by surprise!!!!!!!
	-Some levels behind doors I could not reach , like the door with 
bars that require a black key , full of jumpy things and covered by 
blocks.

	There is more , I will tell you later as I play more
	See ya!

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From: erico@www.tecnopro.com.br

	Hello all

	my mail adr is erico@tecnopro.com.br
	don't know where that www comes from (I use pc for mail)
	
	for those that got my game , can you tell me if it all went ok?
	just send the comments throught the list

	thanks!

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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>

> Bens first comment was :
> 
> "just put that it was written in Amos and *no-one* will bother trying to run
> it... :)"

OK. He's got a hell of a lot of things wrong especially when you consider his
job. I'd be grateful if someone would pass this letter or at least the
points in it along to him if they have not already been made.

> "I can only speak for myself, but Amos tends not to like any recent Amiga
> equipment - you know, like 040+ CPUs, 

AMOS works fine with ANY 680x0 processor. I use an 040 myself, plenty of
others use 060's.

>AGA or graphics cards, 

AMOS doesn't support AGA or graphics cards but doesn't "not like them".
It works fine with either of them, however if your graphics card does not
have a pass through and scan doubler then you have to connect a TV to your
normal video output. This is in my opinion the main problem with AMOS
however it certainly doesn't mean programs won't run.

> resolutions different to HiRes NonLaced (640x200-256). 

Erm where did that one come from?
Lowres (with or without Laced) 1-64 colours
Hires (with or without Laced) 1-16 colours
Just like an A500 for which it was made for originally.


> It doesn't take advantage of
> more memory, 

Yes it does. Like any program the only reason it wouldn't take advantage of
extra memory would be if the programmer didn't program it to do so.

> has a horrible filerequester, 

True but most programmers use the AMIGAs file requestor with AMOS (yes it
can be done). 

> doesn't allow for things like  AssignX and doesn't respond to assigns anyway (everything seems
> hardcoded) 

Completely wrong. AMOS works fine with assigns and can in fact produce them
itself from within it's program. I use assigns all the time in my AMOS
programs.

> and hundreds more reasons why I don't tend to run anything I
> know's been programmed with Amos. 

Well so far none of your points has actually been correct so maybe you
should detail some of these hundred more points.

> Also the programmers don't tend to be
> rigorous with their code resulting in many more crashes than its
> necessary. I know that this is mainly because Amos programmers tend to
> be newbies, but not testing your app on someone else's Amiga before
> inflicting on the rest of the world is inexcusable.

AMOS programs actually crashing your machine is quite a rarity. AMOS
programs just quitting because the programmer has messed up often happens.

However, personally I have less problems running an average AMOS program
than any ClickBoom game so far. (Not one has worked without a right hassle
first). I never have to disable MCP of any other commodities to run AMOS
programs for example.

The whole point is that 90% of the programs you see that are written in
AMOS come from beginners. If you saw a program written in AMOS by someone
who knew exactly what he was doing, you wouldn't even know it was written
in AMOS.

> The only commercial games I know of written in Amos
> were the Valhalla series and some of Vulcan's other early games. And at
> least they were properly tested.

It's true that a lot of the games need more testing but you are mixing this
up with AMOS being crap. 
C is crap if used by a crap programmer too but you wouldn't blame it on the
C language so don't do it with AMOS.

> Sorry if I've ranted, but I wish people would let go of Amos now. No-one
> is using any other software from 1989 now... (cue flood of people saying
> that they are...)"

There are plenty of people using it. I myself have virually stopped
although nothing beats it for creating utils/games quickly.

-Murray

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From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>

On 27-Mar-99 09:33:26 my search for intelligent life turned up this
message from Declan Gorman:

 DG> From: Declan Gorman <declangorman@tinet.ie>

 DG> On 27-Mar-99, Hubbe Hubbe wrote:
>>From: Hubbe Hubbe <grok@flashback.net>



>>Has anyone got some interesting configuration of AMOSPro?

>>Could be some nice colorsetup of the mainscreen etc....

 DG> I remember seeing an alternative set of graphics for the AmosPro
 DG> editor somewhere.  I think it was aminet and they were designed
 DG> by someone on the list.  Or am I wrong?

aminet/dev/amos/AP_newlook.lha from Bernie Noel bnoel@club-internet.fr

A bit different toolbar and a new color scheme.


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Check out the Amiga ICQ page and database at
http://www.yodare.com/index2.html

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From: Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@club-internet.fr>


   Hi Folks,

 I want to get a BVision, but I'd like to know if Amos screens 
will be visible on the VGA port. If not how do you, guys, do ?

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Hi Everybody,

> I want to get a BVision, but I'd like to know if Amos screens 
> will be visible on the VGA port. If not how do you, guys, do ?

   No, they wont I'm afraid.

If you want to use AMOS you'll have to have either some 15khz monitor/TV
stuck to the amiga video port, or buy a scan doubler.

(or wait for an extention that'll let you use RTG propperly, that won't fix
the edit screen though....)

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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi!,

How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000

Can't Amos handle those kinds???

I've used Amos since the very first Amos hit the
street, but I never needed those kinds of numbers
before, so the problem is new to me.

PLEASE!!! say it can be done, and how,

I've got the AMOSPro user guide,if there is some
page or pages I should look at PLEASE point me in
the right direction.


THANX!!

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On 30-Mar-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:
>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

>Hi Everybody,

>> I want to get a BVision, but I'd like to know if Amos screens 
>> will be visible on the VGA port. If not how do you, guys, do ?

>   No, they wont I'm afraid.

>If you want to use AMOS you'll have to have either some 15khz monitor/TV
>stuck to the amiga video port, or buy a scan doubler.

Hi Andrew,
   From your email, am I right in thinking that Amos will not work on VGA
monitors? 

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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi My Self and all

Den 30-Mar-99 skrev Palle Larsen:

PL> Hi!,
PL> 
PL> How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
PL>                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000
PL> 
PL> Can't Amos handle those kinds???

Please ignore the previous msg. I've found the soloution, it was
VERY easy, but I was BLIND ;).

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>>> I want to get a BVision, but I'd like to know if Amos screens 
>>> will be visible on the VGA port. If not how do you, guys, do ?
> 
>>   No, they wont I'm afraid.
> 
>> If you want to use AMOS you'll have to have either some 15khz monitor/TV
>> stuck to the amiga video port, or buy a scan doubler.
> 
> Hi Andrew,
>   From your email, am I right in thinking that Amos will not work on VGA
> monitors? 

   Well, the problem is:

A) It uses the amiga video port, so it wouldn't go through your BVision and
B) the way it uses screens it can only give a 15khz TV output, not a 31khz
VGA output. 

If you got a scandoubler and didn't mind swapping the monitor lead between
the bvision and amiga, then it would work no problem though. (at least it
/should/)

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 30-Mar-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>   From your email, am I right in thinking that Amos will not work on VGA
>monitors? 

Depends. I have a friend with a PicassoIV who managed to promote the amos
screen. It was not easy and I don't know what prg he used to do it, but he did
get it there. It may also depend on the scan rates your monitor will do.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: David Brian Hayes <dbh02@students.stir.ac.uk>

This is a common problem/mistake in most programming languages. The number
100 and the number 250 are treated as integers. As you are doing an integer
operation, AMOS will only treat the answer as an integer, ie 100/250 = 0

If you make one or more of the values to be of floating point kind (add a
decimal point) then the operation is a mixed floating/integer operation, and
the result is then in floating format, ie 100/250. = 0.4 or 100./250 = 0.4
or 100./250. = 0.4, but beware, if you are then trying to assign this value
to an integer variable, the result will be converted into integer format, ie
X = 100./250. will give X = 0

So if you just wish to print the value of 100/250 direct to the screen just
make one or more of the numbers floating point, but if you wish to assign it
to variable, make sure you make one or both of the numbers floating point,
and make sure the variable is of floating point kind.

Hope that clears up any problems any others might be having...

Palle Larsen wrote:

> From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
>
> Hi!,
>
> How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
>                                  ex. 100/2500=0.040000000
>
> Can't Amos handle those kinds???
>
> I've used Amos since the very first Amos hit the
> street, but I never needed those kinds of numbers
> before, so the problem is new to me.
>
> PLEASE!!! say it can be done, and how,
>
> I've got the AMOSPro user guide,if there is some
> page or pages I should look at PLEASE point me in
> the right direction.
>
> THANX!!
>
> --
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>          Palle (BALLS) Larsen
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On 30-Mar-99, Palle Larsen wrote:
>How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
>                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000

Use the A# variables, to make floating point.

>Can't Amos handle those kinds???

I think there is also a command to set how many decimal points are displayed.

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Hi Everybody,


>>   From your email, am I right in thinking that Amos will not work on VGA
>> monitors? 
> 
> Depends. I have a friend with a PicassoIV who managed to promote the amos
> screen. It was not easy and I don't know what prg he used to do it, but he
> did get it there. It may also depend on the scan rates your monitor will
> do.

PicassoIV has an inbuilt pass through and scan doubler, so the card does it
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,
> From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
> 
> Hi!,
> 
> How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
>                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000
> 
> Can't Amos handle those kinds???
> 
> I've used Amos since the very first Amos hit the
> street, but I never needed those kinds of numbers
> before, so the problem is new to me.
> 
> PLEASE!!! say it can be done, and how,
> 

   First of all put a '#' in front of the variable like

num#=0.053245 etc.

   To do division or multiplication with floating point numbers simply put a
decimal place after them :

num#=100./2500.


That should do it. 

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Question:
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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Rev.

Den 31-Mar-99 skrev Rev. Giark To You:

RGTY> From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>
RGTY> 
RGTY> On 30-Mar-99, Palle Larsen wrote:
RGTY>> How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
RGTY>>                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000
RGTY> 
RGTY> Use the A# variables, to make floating point.

I found it in the book, right after the letter was sendt, but
Thanx anyway, it's nice ppl. is so helpfull!!

RGTY> 
RGTY>> Can't Amos handle those kinds???
RGTY> 
RGTY> I think there is also a command to set how many decimal points are
RGTY> displayed.

Yup, Fix(x)

Have you heard anythin from Pietro???.
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Hi Andrew!

Den 31-Mar-99 skrev Andrew Crowe:


AC>> How do I make AmosPro2 calculate ex. 100/250=0.400000000
AC>>                                 ex. 100/2500=0.040000000
AC>> 
AC>> Can't Amos handle those kinds???

AC>   First of all put a '#' in front of the variable like
AC> 
AC> num#=0.053245 etc.

Yes, I found it in the book, but the letter was sendt at that time,
but Thanx for the answer, ppl. in this ML is very helpfull it's a
good thing.


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From: Palle Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Keith!

Den 31-Mar-99 skrev Keith Hill:

KH> From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>
KH> 
KH> Question:
KH>    Why is it I always receive the reply toi a message before the actual
KH> message
KH> 
KH> Feels like I'm in a timewarp.

Maby you are ;))


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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@youvegotmail.net>

On 31-Mar-99, Palle Larsen wrote:
>I found it in the book, right after the letter was sendt, but
>Thanx anyway, it's nice ppl. is so helpfull!!

That's what the list is for.

>Have you heard anythin from Pietro???.

Nothing.

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