Hello everzbody Thanks for being here today JHaage... JHaage: Ok, I have first dibs. Could you please explain to us what involvement you have with 3.5. And perhaps a little about it. Not too much. But I try it. Our part will be the powerpc pices of os3.5 if it becomes reality Just a note to everyone, when its your turn to speak, when your finished asking your question please say GA so we know your finished. To join the message Que, please message Tasmaniac with a "?" and not a question. you can ask when your turn. JHa: While the que fills I will ask another question. Is there anything you can tell us about H&Ps 68k emulation? Yes. We are finished the first step an it run very well. But we still have no hardware docs from p5 so we can't do optimizations for it. I think we'll show the first running version on the cologne show. 1)What`s P5 reaction to warpup based OS 3.5 ? 2)Will they remove ppc.library from BlizzardPPC FlashRoms ? 3)Will u offer support SASC or GCC C Compilers ? 4)Will OS 3.5 have PowerUP emulation ? GA 1. They were pissed. 2. Thez have to. 3. If anybody implement this. 4. We try to do it. 1) Are H&P responsible for the non-PPC version of OS 3.5 as well? 2) Will these be exactly the same, except for the prosessor they are running on? GA 1. In a little part. 2. Yes I think so but it better to ask Fleecy or Olaf. 1> Will you change any thing to do with the Arexx system ? Script Compliers Maybe.... 2> Will You have TCP/IP Support as standard... 3> Will the Gui look any different , will you be having mui as standard. 1. we all should hope that OS3.5 will be announced very soon by AInc. Please understand that I can't tell you details. Jhaage: I think I understand that (1) You have a version of OS 3.5 working on the PPC now Yes? and (2) You cannot say anything for sure about its features until Amiga Inc says more, Yes? GA You are right. «Voice» Tasmaniac gives voice to Merko JHaage: How could it be so central to have PuP hardware docs to make a ->68k emulation<-? For a kernel I would understand but for the 68k emulator? General PPC docs should be enough then, I think.. GA Yes but for optimizations we need to know how the hardware works. JHaage: 1) the OS 3.5 for PPC, will need new roms? If not how it boot up? GA I think it is not possible to do new ROM. I don't know how the startup can work. Please aks Olaf. Will you support ppc amiga clones ? GA Which clones do you mean? The Boxer for example... Might I just mention that H&P is making "AmigaWriter", a new Amiga wordprocessor. (Demo available now in German and English) I think we may have lost out guest 1) Author of ppc.library "Ralph Schimdt" is here..His nick is Laire....Will u work with him ?...When will H&P and P5 really begin to work together ? 2) Can u give more information about Warp3D API for Permedia2,S3 gfx cards .Will that be in Os3.5 ?GA It seems our guest is having technical problems, so we'll go unmoderated until he can return. «Quit» JHaage (PlaySoft@mpltst04.pn.ITnet.it) has signed off (Read error to JHaage[mpltst04.pn.ITnet.it]: Connection reset by peer). the OS 3.5 release date, is it gonna happen or not, as seen so many broken promises an nothing but vapor from AI, an can new word pro do word docs? JHaage: why p5 don't release you the hardware specifics of their PPC boards? which are the relationships between you? GA he was ircing off OS 3.5, and it crashed. :) --> JHaage (root@mpltst04.pn.ITnet.it) has joined this channel. «OP» TB gives channel operator status to JHaage Back to the que... «Voice» Tasmaniac gives voice to Mano^PPC 1) Author of ppc.library "Ralph Schimdt" is here..His nick is Laire....Will u work with him ?...When will H&P and P5 really begin to work together ? 2) Can u give more information about Warp3D API for Permedia2,S3 gfx cards .Will that be in Os3.5 ?GA *laire* why do you ask such nonsense ? People, try and remeber 3.5 hasnt been anounced yet officialy, so theres only a small amont of info he can tell us. 1. Yes I know. We have know problem working together with him, but you should ask him. 2 Not yet. JHaage: Have you had a good cooperation with AInc? Do you think that they're working hard and has a credible organisation? It would be great with an AmigaOS that could run on PPC Macs...why not? GA The cooperation with Petro here in germany is very good, but AInc in USA is very slow working in my opinion. May I please have any news about "StormARexx"? Thanks. GA Michael Rock is working very hard on it now. He is doing some seed optimzations bevor we can go to the first beta test to the ICOA group. 1) What kind of intregrated support will OS 3.5 offer for Graphic's cards, ie standardised libraries like cybergrafix etc ? 2) Will there be any support for retargetable Audio (Like AHI) ? 3) Is there likely to be a shift to a totally retargetable OS ? GA Please understand that you should wait for the official announcement made by AInc. the OS 3.5 release date or it even been released full stop, is it gonna happen or not, as seen so many broken promises an nothing but vapor from AI etc, only ppl that have done anything promising for amiga is P5 with ppc, but as usuall AI do nothing to support P5 an we will prolly lose them to MACs an can new word pr o "amigawriter" do word docsan pdf? (sorry if os 3.5 release been asked before, but i was not here) GA If AInc announces PowerPC support for OS3.5 many soft- and hardware developer can do new projects but it's in AInc's hands. JHaage: why p5 don't release you the hardware specifics of their PPC boards? which are your relationships? GA Ask laire! GA JHaage: Why are you going out with this "news" now, why can't you wait until AInc decides to tell us if it is indeed true that they have decided in favor of your solution? GA I tell you that i think they will announce. This is not an official anouncement. What happened to Merapi Java Project ?..Is it cancelled ? Is it possible to give away a lite version of Merapi with OS3.5 ?GA People, have your questions ready before hand. Merapi it not cancelled but it is not possible for us to bring a commercial version if we don't have a licence from SUN and the licence is very, very expensive. GA JHaage: When PCX and FUSION PPC version go out? GA Uppps I can't answer this question because this are not our products. Why is there still no concrete WarpUP/PowerUP system where both are integrated? Wasn't this to be established at some point? GA Ask Laire! JHaage: We've heard that AInc must say something before anyone else can say anything about OS 3.5 ... has AInc given you any idea when they (AInc) may say something? GA What is your problem? GA Have you thought about taking preorders on Merapi like ClickBOOM are with Napalm, to help with the licencing fee and to sum up if its worth it? GA No because the licence is tooooooooo high. JHaage: i would just notice that lair refuse to answer at all questions... :( GA Typical for lair. GA 1)How far in terms of percent are u in the development stage??? 2)How long will be a testing stage? 3)If Ainc. aggree the OS right now how long before u can release it??? GA We are ready to go to betatesting for all part now. So if the licence cost of Merapi is too high, we can assume we wont EVER(?) see a full blown commercial or otherwise version of Java on current Amiga systems? Shouldnt you stop promoting it as the be all and end all Java solution for Amiga? GA No we try to use some backdoors. Our author is well known by an SUN employe and so on... With the importance of supporting Java, has there been contact with Amiga Inc about helping with that licensing fee? GA Yes. Any last question i have to go back to my both. Did u inform/warn all commercial PPC developers (e.g. Titan, A.C.T, ClickBoom) about WarpUP based OS3.5 ?..It won`t be nice if a PPC commercial software doesn`t work under OS3.5 next year ?GA 1)btw can u give us some specifications??? Just to dream on it??? 2)What expectation have u got from the actual Amiga market?? Are PPC users the base market??