From blitz-list-request Sun Feb 27 13:40:02 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA00285 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:40:01 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA19798 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:39:59 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199402271139.NAA19798@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Re: You are on the list (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:39:58 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1126 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu Sun Feb 27 02:10:12 1994 > > > > > If you received this message, everything is fine. > > List's mail address is (not surprisingly) blitz-list@helsinki.fi > > After one day of start, there are already four of us, which is not > > bad at all 8). > > My first question is: > > Is this for Blitz Basic 2 on the Amiga? > > > > Welcome to the list, use it as you like ! > > > > -Mikko Makela > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Raist: "I'm BACK!"----> CSA '12 Gauge, A1200, Bernoulli 150 > I LOVE IT!! //Image FX, SCALA MM210, Real 3D V2 > \X/Opinions are my own, not of my college campus > Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering > Yes, it certainly is, maybe I should have been more spesific 8). I was going to write more about myself and my interests in Blitz to welcoming message, to start a conversation sort of, but I have math exam tomorrow, and that's why I don't have much time before it... anyway, list works, and if you have anything to ask, go for it, maybe somebody knows... -Mikko From blitz-list-request Sun Feb 27 13:46:51 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA00404 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:46:50 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:46:35 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:46:24 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:48:53 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:46:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:46:26 +0200 X400-Originator: dj%cck.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<15698.9402271146@cck.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Versions Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: DAVID JACKSON Message-ID: <15698.9402271146@cck.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Versions Status: RO Does anyone know what the latest version of Blitz is? Where's the proper AGA update? I'm using v1.7 of the editor, and wondered if there is going to be updates on BBS; s .... If so do you know of an ftp site/BBS number???? If you want to swap algorithms/ideas/code etc then just mail me. Seeya Steve & DJ dj@uk.ac.coventry From blitz-list-request Mon Feb 28 22:35:20 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA11184 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:35:04 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA08765 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:35:03 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199402282035.WAA08765@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Welcome ! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:35:02 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 835 Status: RO Dear blitzers... after 3 days of start there are 19 of us in this list, so this is starting to look very promising. This list is meant to any kind of conversation and questions concerning Blitz Basic 2, the best programming tool in it's pricerange for any computer. I myself am not a programming guru of any kind, I'm in fact a total newcomer to blitz. I'll do my best, however, to answer any questions sended to this list, although I'm sure there are already some excellent programmers subscribed to this list... list's address is: blitz-list@helsinki.fi If you answer to letters sended to the list, and want all others see the answer too, please remember to forward your answer to this address. -Mikko Makela p.s. as you may have noticed (?), english wasn't my best subject in school - I hope this doesn't disturb anybody 8) From blitz-list-request Mon Feb 28 22:55:42 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA11702 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:55:40 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA09918 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:55:39 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199402282055.WAA09918@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Versions (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 22:55:38 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1279 Status: RO Forwarded message: > Does anyone know what the latest version of Blitz is? Where's the proper > AGA update? I'm using v1.7 of the editor, and wondered if there is going to be > updates on BBS; > s .... If so do you know of an ftp site/BBS number???? > If you want to swap algorithms/ideas/code etc then just mail me. > Seeya > Steve & DJ > dj@uk.ac.coventry > Well, I received my copy of Blitz just couple of weeks ago from Amiga Format, and it's v1.7, so I guess that's the newest version. I'm going to write to Acid Software about the list this week, so maybe (hopefully) we'll receive some news from them soon. What comes to swapping programs and so on, I'll try to make aminet's guys to make directory for blitz (dev/blitz/). Only I have the problem, that I don't have any other material yet, what didn't come with blitz... Infact, I don't even have BUMs in hole, because they were packed to one disk, and almost all articles were missing (I presume). Maybe somebody who has them, could upload them to aminet ? While I'm on it, here are couple of questions also: -Is there any kind of screen/window/gadget manager for blitz ? If not, this could be good project to share... -Anybody have a procedure to play sample from spesific memorylocation ? I need it bad. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 03:34:20 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA19081 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 03:34:11 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA11179 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:34:06 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403010134.AA11179@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Welcome ! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:34:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199402282035.WAA08765@klaava.Helsinki.FI> from "Mikko Makela" at Feb 28, 94 10:35:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 452 Status: RO No need to worry about the English. Blitz is not my best subject! :) Has anyone else received the latest BUM? I haven't but have heard it has been sent out in some areas. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 03:37:43 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA19147 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 03:37:35 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA11527 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:37:03 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403010137.AA11527@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Versions (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:37:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199402282055.WAA09918@klaava.Helsinki.FI> from "Mikko Makela" at Feb 28, 94 10:55:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 870 Status: RO >Well, I received my copy of Blitz just couple of weeks ago from >Amiga Format, and it's v1.7, so I guess that's the newest version. Yes, v1.7 is the latest unless a new version has been released on the new BUM. >Maybe somebody who has them, could upload them to aminet ? I do not think you can upload them to anywhere. It may be best to write to Simon in NZ to ask for permission. >-Is there any kind of screen/window/gadget manager for blitz ? Well, there is that one utility program that does not work with newer systems as they have not recompiled the code since it was first released. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 13:57:52 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA20679 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:57:50 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:57:18 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:56:35 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:53:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:53:56 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<10250.9403011153@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <10250.9403011153@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello fellow blitzers, Does anybody know if acid house are planning support for new mod formats. I badly need support for Protracker 3.15, but the latest version of Octamed would also be adequate. Basically, a friend has invested a great deal of time in creating some mods for my blitz game (which should be released soon, small plug there 8^), but he used PT3.15 which uses timing commands not available in standard sound/noisetracker or medv3 mod formats, and hence it plays very badly in blitz (the speed of playback is all over the place). He can redo them of course, but this will take a long time, and the results will be far from satisfactory. Are there any other possible solutions for getting these mods to work which I may have missed. Could I use an asm routine to handle the playback, and not use the blitz functions. If so, does anybody have example source for this (you'll get a credit in my game, honest 8). Thanks for your time. Martin Kift Email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk A1200/80hd/50Mhz 68030/6M memory Wow, Frontier runs smoothly! BlitzBasic2 enthusiast. If you are interested in BB2, contact me NOW!! From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 15:20:37 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA25776 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:20:34 +0200 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:20:18 +0000 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: BUMS and stuff. Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1994 13:20:13 +0000 Message-ID: <15506.762528013@aber.ac.uk> From: nlh1 Status: RO Hello there, A few little questionettes for you intelligent people. 1) Is BUM 6 out yet, and if so wheres my copy. 2) Has any one noticed bugs in either getashape or Blit? My shapes seem to get corrupted. In the game I am writing I build shapes as I go, and they get corrupted even though they are OK before they are blitted or getashaped. By corruption I mean, some colours or lost, and colour 0 splatted in the middle etc. Skidmarks is excellent. I am very impressed, nice one lads. Nigel Hughes A4000/030 + 882 + 6Mb + .5 Gbyte HD = No money :-( From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 16:35:23 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA02520 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:35:19 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:34:50 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:34:03 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:36:25 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:33:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:33:18 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<11944.9403011433@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Ham/Ham8 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <11944.9403011433@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Ham/Ham8 Status: RO Hmm, OK, so we can all display Ham, and now Ham8. Is there any way of detecting if a file is ham/ham8? I could look at the header of the file but there must be an easier way.. Things are looking promising for this group, we're growing all the time! I've never had so much mail waiting for me before!! Andy :) From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 20:20:09 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA14537 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:19:59 +0200 Received: from mdis.co.uk by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <09205-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:19:23 +0000 Received: from gx2.mdis.co.uk by gate.mdis.co.uk id aa13925; 1 Mar 94 18:19 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 18:19:16 GMT From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9403011819.AA23949@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Blitz list mail Status: RO Hi everyone, I reckon I have received about 30 pieces of mail re blitz list since yesterday when I subscribed. My mail box is getting v cluttered. I was wondering if it would be possible for the mail to be filtered a bit more effectively, I have received some request to join the list amongst other things. Perhaps you could change the format so that one large mail goes out to every one at the end of the day containing all the days mail messages. Also perhaps you could filter out joining requests so that othere dont receive them. This is just a suggestion. Let me know what you think. Andy. From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 11:56:32 1994 Received: from mailhost.lut.ac.uk (bgate.lut.ac.uk [131.231.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19131 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:56:09 +0200 Received: by suna.lut.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12748; Wed, 2 Mar 94 09:50:11 GMT Message-Id: <9403020950.AA12748@suna.lut.ac.uk> From: Rob Subject: Corrupted Blitz PD Disk To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 9:50:09 GMT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0 (LUT)] Status: RO I recently bought Blitz2 from Amiga Format. Unfortunately the disk containing the archives of Blitz PD disks 1 & 2 is corrupted could someone please uuencode and email me the dms archives? Thanks very much Rob From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 16:52:58 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA07503 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:52:44 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:52:33 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:49:57 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:52:27 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:49:39 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:49:39 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<11145.9403021449@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <11145.9403021449@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Here's some source code for all you fellow blitzers. It's a landscape program. First of all it produces a plasma type view, after a mousewait it continues to do a 3d scape. I take no credit for this at all, csi077 at my address wrote this and has allowed me to upload it. What a dude! Cheers Pete. Anyway, do what you like with this file. Let's hope this starts off some source sharing... :) cut here------------> <---------end of file Andy :) From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 17:38:14 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA10139 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:38:05 +0200 Received: from mdis.co.uk by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <19335-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:37:24 +0000 Received: from gx2.mdis.co.uk by gate.mdis.co.uk id aa29767; 2 Mar 94 15:36 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 15:36:10 GMT From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9403021536.AA10411@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, csi059@cch.coventry.ac.uk Subject: uuscape Status: RO Will have a look at this tonight. Thanks, Andy. From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 17:56:57 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA11148 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:56:42 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA09207 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:56:41 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403021556.RAA09207@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Just few things To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:56:40 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 562 Status: RO 1st thing: I think that we would need some place to save all blitz pd's and sources ,which could be useful for all blitz-users, so here are some alternatives: -aminet -ftp.funet.fi -some ftp:able place Which one would you prefer ? I would think that they all are possibly to arrange. 2nd thing: When you advertize this list, please remember to give the request address (blitz-list-request@helsinki.fi), so that subscribtions won't be posted to everyone on the list. 3th thing: I have an exam next friday+monday+thursday. AARGH! (Had to let it out 8) -Mikko From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 19:30:22 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA15916 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:30:00 +0200 Received: from mdis.co.uk by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <25365-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:29:35 +0000 Received: from gx2.mdis.co.uk by gate.mdis.co.uk id aa04665; 2 Mar 94 17:29 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 17:29:29 GMT From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9403021729.AA12103@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, mmmakela@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Just few things Status: RO 1. Definately aminet. 2 + 3 Noted. Andy. From andy@gx2.mdis.co.uk Wed Mar 2 19:30:33 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA15934 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:30:28 +0200 Received: from mdis.co.uk by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <25365-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:29:35 +0000 Received: from gx2.mdis.co.uk by gate.mdis.co.uk id aa04665; 2 Mar 94 17:29 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 17:29:29 GMT From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9403021729.AA12103@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, mmmakela@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Just few things Status: RO 1. Definately aminet. 2 + 3 Noted. Andy. From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 3 12:15:46 1994 Received: from athmail1 (athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk [143.117.254.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA23770 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 12:12:47 +0200 Received: by athmail1 id AA08546; Thu, 3 Mar 94 10:08:15 GMT Received: by ash15 (5.57/4.7) id AA01464; Thu, 3 Mar 94 10:08:04 GMT Message-Id: <9403031008.AA01464@ash15> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Filled Polygons Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 10:08:01 GMT From: Jonny Status: RO Hi, Does any one know much about the Polyf command. I`ve used it to do write a filled surface, rotating cube. I`ve just used Blitz, i.e no machine language. The question i have about the polyf command is, is it the fastest way to fill polygons. IF not how would you go about writing your own (I do have a knowledge of assmebly.. a few algorithms would be of help). Also, the last (optional) parameter of the poly commands should be -1, to not draw faces which are drawn anticlockwise (or is it clockwise), but would say -2, or 10, as the last parameter mean ? Thanx Jonny u9242708@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 3 13:47:31 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA01926 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:46:47 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:46:41 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:46:03 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:48:32 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:45:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:45:42 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<10258.9403031145@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Scape source... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <10258.9403031145@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Scape source... Status: RO I made a slight mistake in uuencoding it. It'll decode to a funny name, it's actually a .lha file. Andy :) From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 7 15:48:42 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA26023 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:47:28 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:33:15 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:32:18 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:29:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:29:44 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<7895.9403071329@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <7895.9403071329@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hi, I probably know the answer to this already, but has any representive of Acid House joined either Internet or better still this blitzlist yet? If not, what is the best way to get in touch with them, regarding some serious bugs or failings in the blitz language. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blitz-basic enthusiast. Finger me at above address for some more information Look out for my latest game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon (-ish) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 04:53:22 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA27324 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 04:53:05 +0200 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA19908 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:52:59 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9403080152.21709@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Shape pixel colour To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:52:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 201 Status: RO Does anyone know how to/or an equivalent comand for Point(x,y) which works on Shapes? What does .shape\data point to? How can I get colour info from it? Any help much appreciated. Thanks.. Son Le From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 11:13:27 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA17246 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:12:43 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:12:22 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:11:53 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:09:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:09:24 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<2565.9403080909@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <2565.9403080909@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hi blitzers, Can anybody help me with a few problems: 1. If I set up the copper to do palette switches using the ColSplit command, how do I get rid of them and go back to a single palette screen? 2. Is it possible to have more than 8 sprites on screen, using some sort of sprite multiplexing (not sure if thats the correct term 8^) If so, how, and what are the limitations. 3. If there any chance to Acid House writing some decent docs? 8) Is it just me, or is this list very quiet. I was expecting lots of discussions, gossip, jokes etc. Come on folks!!! 8) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blitz-basic enthusiast. Finger me at above address for some more information Look out for my latest game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon (-ish) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 13:18:27 1994 Received: from athmail1 (athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk [143.117.254.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA24901 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:18:02 +0200 Received: by athmail1 id AA20493; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:13:30 GMT Received: by ash42 (5.57/4.7) id AA01645; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:13:14 GMT Message-Id: <9403081113.AA01645@ash42> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Copper Wibble Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 11:13:10 +0100 From: Jonny Status: RO Please mail me your copper wibble code, not sure i`ll be able to help you though.. just want to have a look. Thanx Dave Jonny u9242708@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 13:47:51 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA27322 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:47:42 +0200 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:20:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:17:18 GMT Message-Id: <152.9403081117@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Rainbows To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hi there, in response to Martin's question about copper rainbow effects (Col Splits), I had this problem too. My own game required a 12 colour b/g rainbow the colours of which changed with each level; each time I reset the ColSplits the copper list got longer and the screen got messier. My solution: I wrote a little programme which set the rainbow colours to $111,$222 etc. and then looked through the copper list (using CopLoc and CopLen) for these values. No luck (??) Now I've set the colour split using Custom Cop dim cop_adr.l(11) From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 14:37:37 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29977 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:37:13 +0200 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:19:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 12:19:34 GMT Message-Id: <18167.9403081219@nimbostratus.met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Rainbows To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Aargh!! Cut short! Here goes again: dim cop_adr.l(11) ;table of LONG WORD adresses for (12) rainbow lines for i=1 to 15 customcop mki$($180+2*col_index)+mki$($111*i),slice_top+i*16 next ;this sets up a grey rainbow for i=0 to coplen step 4 iadr=coploc+i for j=1 to 11 if peek.w(iadr)=$180+2*Col_index AND peek.w(iadr+2)=$111*j cop_adr(j)=iadr+2 next next; locate colours (currently grey scales) in coplist Now poke new values into adresses stored in cop_adr array. Don't open new slices after doing this, or otherwise change coplist. To remove rainbow effect, just poke the same colour into all of the adresses. Not perfect, but it works. I dont know how to totally remove the rainbow code, but you could try storing the old copper list in an array; set up rainbow; then poke old one back to coploc and following adresses? Sounds dodgy to me, but it might work. From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 15:25:59 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA02946 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:25:55 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:24:51 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:22:55 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:23:19 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:22:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:22:00 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<28398.9403081322@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Gadgets and t... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <28398.9403081322@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Gadgets and things.. Status: RO OK, so I'm doing a map editor for a rather funky game which is coming out soon. So I get clobbered to do a map editor, I thought Blitz can do that! I crank up my 1200, start Blitz, stick in some NEW gadgets like gtslider and then it hits me. How the bloody hell do I know what value has been selected, ie, can I pass a value back from gtslider and scroller in a similar manner to pro proportional gadgets??? I thought I'd mail this STUPID question in the hope that I get 'flamed' for being a thicky as we need *some* kind of a discussion! :) Andy :) From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 9 11:37:47 1994 Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA24898 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:36:37 +0200 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA11057 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:07:55 +1000 Received: from kumear.UUCP (Ukumear@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.6.Beta11/8.6.6.Beta11-bw1) with UUCP id SAA16228 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:52:11 +1000 Received: by kumear.apana.org.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0078z; Tue, 8 Mar 94 23:09:42 EST Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 23:09:42 EST Message-Id: <9403090409.AA0078y@kumear.apana.org.au> From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Status: RO In a message dated m h kift wrote: mhk> I probably know the answer to this already, but has any mhk> representive mhk> of Acid House joined either Internet or better still this blitzlist mhk> yet? mhk> If not, what is the best way to get in touch with them, regarding mhk> some serious bugs or failings in the blitz language. Dunno if they are connected or not. They are connected on AmigaNet though, and have answered lots of questions when they aren't galavanting all over the world! -- Via DLG Pro v1.0 phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 9 14:40:06 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA11606 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:39:47 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:39:35 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:38:45 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:35:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:35:20 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<14939.9403091235@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <14939.9403091235@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hi blitzers, I have a small problem with a game I am developing. I want to be able to show 4 15colour sprites onscreen at any time. These are small sprites, less than 16x16. Anyway, I know that 15 colour sprites must be displayed through even-numbered channels,a nd they tie up the next odd numbered channnel. However, I cannot get a sprite to work through channel 7!!! If I show a 15col sprite through channel6, it has corrupted colour, and if I try to show a 3col sprite through channel 7 it comes back with an error 'channel in use'. What this probably means is that something (has reserved channel 7, and not letting me access it. Maybe the workbench mouse?? I don't know. Does anybody know of this problem, and how to solve it. Thanks 8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is BlitzBasic2 so wonderful one minute, and so utterly crap the next? Look out for my first BB2 game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon-ish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. As an aside, can the blitz person who I promised AIBB modules for my machine please contact me. I forgot to bring them in today actually, but I just realised that I don't have your address, so I couldn't send them to you anyway. Call me!!!!! 8) From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 10 21:17:35 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA20154 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:16:16 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:15:57 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:15:04 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:06:33 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:06:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:06:43 +0200 X400-Originator: N.Datta%hertfordshire.ac.uk@helios.hertfordshire.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Sender: N.Datta@hertfordshire.ac.uk Message-ID: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Any blitz programs on aminet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Does anyone out there know of any programs written in blitz, on aminet or any other ftp site, apart from sphere ??? Thanx Nac ****************************************************************************** * Naciketa "NAC" Datta * What do you mean, we need a break * * cs2dy@altair.herts.ac.uk * from the old routine * * Hatfield, England, UK * yeah you know what i mean * * The land where the sun never shines * * ****************************************************************************** From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 10 22:12:03 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA22019 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:12:00 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA13359 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:11:59 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403102011.WAA13359@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Any blitz programs on aminet (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:11:58 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1163 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 10 21:17:35 1994 > Subject: Any blitz programs on aminet > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Does anyone out there know of any programs written in blitz, on aminet > or any other ftp site, apart from sphere ??? > > Thanx > > > Nac > > > ****************************************************************************** > * Naciketa "NAC" Datta * What do you mean, we need a break * > * cs2dy@altair.herts.ac.uk * from the old routine * > * Hatfield, England, UK * yeah you know what i mean * > * The land where the sun never shines * * > ****************************************************************************** > > No, I don't, but I think we would need one place with little storage, IF people are going to share some source. That way I could upload them to aminet when reasonable. I'll see what I can do. And I think that almost everyone has something to share, so come on guys, mail them. I myself am writing a little screen manager, and will post it, when there is something to post. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 17:20:25 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA18527 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:20:08 +0200 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:19:50 +0000 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA13878; Mon, 14 Mar 94 15:16:19 GMT To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: GadTools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:21:33 +0000 Message-Id: <825.763658493@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes Status: RO Hi There, Two (propably stupid) problems with GT gadgets in Blitz 2 (BUM5) 1. How do I get values of sliders, integers etc? 2. How do I change attributes of sliders, eg set a higher total, the SetAttrs does not work, do I have to use GT_SetAttrsA system call? I am writing a GOOD shape grabber, what features do you want? Which do you already like? Come on guys let's discuss. Would you like me to mail the current version so as that you can comment on it? Many Thanks nlh1@uk.ac.aber From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 17:56:18 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA20266 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:55:51 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:55:40 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:54:30 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:51:53 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:51:53 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<29203.9403141551@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <29203.9403141551@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO >American git writes (sorry Mike, just a joke 8^) >Oh, it's you... ;) >> I am writing a GOOD shape grabber, what features do you want? Which >> do you already like? Come on guys let's discuss. Would you like > me to mail the current version so as that you can comment on it? >I want a shape grabber that lets me either cut the shapes manually or can do >it automatically using settings that I set. Such as, 2 pixel blank border >around each shape which separates them, 16x16 or 16x32 or 32x32 or 32x16, etc. >And then I'd like to be able to flip them around within the file so that >a certain type of shape (like walls) are all together, etc. Some good ideas there Mike, unusual for you 8^). Anyway, I'd like to second the idea for having the ability to define methods for cutting out iffs automatically from iff's structured to suit this (although the blitz shapegrabber can handle this, as long as you are willing to sacrifice one colour). Heres a few more ideas: 1. Ability to merge shapes files, extract/delete/move shapes. 2. Ability to load in existing shapes files, and add to them from other iff's. 3. Simple graphical operations. Not painting really, but the ability to move/flip shapes, and to cut off sides of the shape to reduce its size. A question here, not a request. Can you have shapes with different depths in the same shapes file. I imagine so, I have just never tried it to be honest. If you can: 4. Ability to handle multiple depth shapes handling, again with merge/ extract, etc. Theres loads of other things I can think of, but these will do for the moment. I'll come up with more ideas once I've seen the program. Oh yes: 5. Ability to both graphically/andor manually define hotspots for all shapes. Very important, they must not be just centered. There you go Nigel. 8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is BlitzBasic2 so wonderful one minute, and so utterly crap the next? Look out for my first BB2 game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon-ish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 20:26:26 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA28272 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:25:52 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA19981 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:26:21 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403141826.UAA19981@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: GadTools (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:26:20 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 694 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From: Nigel Hughes > > > I am writing a GOOD shape grabber, what features do you want? Which > do you already like? Come on guys let's discuss. Would you like > me to mail the current version so as that you can comment on it? > > Many Thanks > > > nlh1@uk.ac.aber If it's not huge, you could mail it to the list. I think many of us would like to see it (tell me if I'm wrong). I'm still finding out, if there is a chance for me to make ftp:able place, where all Blitz- related stuff could be uploaded (and maybe upload them in one piece to aminet, when there would be reasonable amount to do that). I can't promise anything though. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 05:16:39 1994 Received: from VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.23]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA13437 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 05:16:23 +0200 Received: from mdw052.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #6430) id <01HA03CZ1L6891W6ZL@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:13:11 +1000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mdw052.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA09480 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:12:06 +1000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:12:05 +1000 From: Mr M Sawicki To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: <199403150312.NAA09480@mdw052.cc.monash.edu.au> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-Warning: mdw052.cc.monash.edu.au: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mts: smtp Status: RO No I never had any momory problems when reloading libs, but then again I havee 6meg so that's probably the reason for it. From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 12:48:10 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA10264 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:47:38 +0200 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:47:22 +0000 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Shape Grabber Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:47:18 +0000 Message-ID: <5092.763728438@aber.ac.uk> From: nlh1 Status: RO OK OK!! First off things that are already in, or ready to go in, 1. The ability to load shape files and merge them, then delete move around, grab new ones and put them anywhere in the bank. You can specify wether you want new shapes to go into a certain place in the bank or at the end. 2. You can copy and swap and delete shapes. 3. You Can load an existing shape file then add to it from any number of other IFF and shape files. 4. Multi depth no probs, BLitz does that ;) I had not thought about, 1. Drawing operations 2. Hot spot definition These will go in! Here is the uue file, the disk may have got a little corrupt, so I will bring another copy up tomorrow incase it, STOP PRESS, it is corrupt, I will upload it tomorrow, it is only little. Meanwhile keep up the ideas. And Martin, don't slander Michael, of course he doesn't have good ideas ;) Mike, git means Gifted Intelligent Type, honest... Sorry aboutthe delay, I hate PC's. Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 14:42:42 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA19361 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:42:40 +0200 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:15:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 11:40:11 GMT Message-Id: <11039.9403151140@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Tinting with Shapes To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO I think I know what you mean about tinting effects. I still use DPaint II so I am not entirely sure. A n y w a y . . . . One neat effect I thought of is to use dummy bitplanes, using the command BitmapBitplanes. Say you have a 32 colour bitmap #0, you can define, say Bitmap 1 to be the top bitplane (most significant bit) with BitMap BitPlanes 1,0,%10000 ^ ^ ^ New BM Source Mask setting which Bitplanes are active This doesnt use more memory, merely sets BM 1 to refer to part of the memory used by bm 0 I think thats right. Set colours 0-15 of the relevant slice to your favoruite palette, and colour 16 to 31 to half the intensity of the colour 16 less. Now Blit any one bitplane shape to bitmap 1 and you will darken the area. Now, all you rich bastards with AGA: Set up an 8 plane (256 colour screen), and set three dummy bitmaps to provide red green and blue light, and mix them. Could look great for lighting effects in an Alien type atmosphere. Mike Cooper 1 Meg A500 + 1 Sodding Disk Drive + DPaint II = Honest and Poor From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 14:42:45 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA19355 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:42:33 +0200 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:15:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 11:43:44 GMT Message-Id: <11085.9403151143@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Sprites To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Yaaay!! I got Sprite 7 to work under adverse circumstances last night (Dual Playfield) 8+8 colours, Sprites inbetween playfields, another DUal PF above that, both playfields hardware scrolling and my pokey copper rainbows from that other posting. Mind you this was two 64 pixel wide 3 colour sprites. I'll see how it goes with, say, 8 16 pixel sprites or 4 32 pixels sprites. To the original poster- was the problem in using 16 colour sprites or what? I can't remember. Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 15:32:30 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA22816 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:32:16 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:31:29 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:30:13 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:28:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:28:50 +0200 X400-Originator: PHY93003%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk@birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<"15_Mar_94_13:28:50_GMT_#7297"@] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Resident files Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: SgtBilko Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Message-ID: <"15_Mar_94_13:28:50_GMT_#7297"@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090> To: Blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: Resident files Status: RO EASY-PEASY! ;) Resident files hold your newtype and constant definitions (in case you didnt know - have you read *ANY* of the manual?). compile a file containing these as normal, then select create resident. enter your filename (*.res is a good idea ;) ), and presto - one resident file. To use it just bung its name (including path) into the resident files box under compiler options in the relevant files. It means that view type stuff works *ALL* the time (not just immediately after compilation), and the code you work on is smaller. Also another neat trick is to use blitz as a modular compiler. The prog im working on at the moment uses about 8 different files, each file containing different parts of the prog. Nice easy development + reduces compile time to test singular bits. Also makes my code ive done now easily transportable ;). Very useful when youre making an adventure creator+interpreter -> file io is all in one file so i only have to change it in the include file and both progs are fixed for the new version. By the way - if anyones interested in adventure creators ill upload the thing when its done - dont know how long - and any comments on what sort of things i ought to have are very gratefully received. Does anyone know how i can call Multiview for my help file - currently i cheat and use some nasty code that looks like this.... .HELP SetErr f=Execute_("execute multiview SCREEN vw.guide",0,0) goto cheat End SetErr FindScreen 2,"MultiView" ScreenToFront_(2) .cheat Return Yeah - i know - its ugly but it works - does anyone know a cleaner way? (the findscreen bit produces an error if it cant find the screen making it hit the error handler). Happy Blitzing, SgtBilko From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 16 01:41:35 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA18292 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 01:41:20 +0200 Received: from sauron (sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.108]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.6.Beta9/1.4) with SMTP id JAA19669 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:41:16 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by sauron (5.0/client-1.3) id AA00484; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:41:12 --1000 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:41:12 --1000 Message-Id: <9403152341.AA00484@sauron> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: your mail X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 949 Status: RO > From blitz-list-request@cc.helsinki.fi Tue Mar 15 23:03:34 1994 > From: M D Cox > Subject: Re: your mail > To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:50:19 -0500 (EST) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >No I never had any momory problems when reloading libs, but then again I havee > >6meg so that's probably the reason for it. > I also have 6MB. 4MB FAST, 2MB CHIP. Still get it, though. > > Also, anyone know how to make resident files? I select the CREATE RESIDENT > option, but it does NOTHING!!! > > Mike > -- > Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net > A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU > For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! > For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net You need to compile the file before you can create a resident file. Mark. From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 16 12:33:31 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA21108 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:32:43 +0200 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:32:21 +0000 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA27152; Wed, 16 Mar 94 10:28:43 GMT To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: New Shape Grabber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:34:01 +0000 Message-Id: <23803.763814041@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes Status: RO Right, Here it is. It took hours to work out how to read a Gadtools integer. But I did find a way... integer.l=Val(GetGadInteger(gadlist,#id)) Sorry that should be GetGadString. The GetGadInteger returns a pointer that I cannot seem to work out what it is pointing to! There are some bugs still in this but I really want to know what you think generaly, use help to explain buttons! Let me know huh! Nigel From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 16 13:20:49 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA23642 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:20:45 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:19:58 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:19:12 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:16:37 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:16:37 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<7300.9403161116@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <7300.9403161116@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello, just a couple of questions for all you intelligent people out there. 8) Firstly, I couldn't find any reference in the manuals about how a blitz compiled game loads into memory. I know that all graphics/sounds etc loads in chip, but does the main exe and other things like lookup tables automatically load into fast, or does this have to be requested???? Secondly, in my game I load different map blocks for each level. The number of blocks is always the same, so currently when I come to load them in I just go LoadShapes #first,"..." without bothering to delete the existing shapes. Is this an okay thing to do, or should I free the old set first? Does anybody have any news on the latest issue of bum (issue 6). Also, has anybody in the uk who ordered skidmarks with their subscription received it yet. I've been waiting for a couple of months now, but no package. I've also tried ringing the main office for the last two weeks, but all I get is either a answer phone or an endlessly ringing line. 8( Martin Kift email: cekift@uk.ac.swan.pyr From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 16 20:00:37 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA18056 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:59:44 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA09917 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:59:41 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403161759.TAA09917@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Viewmode option in Screen command (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:59:34 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1304 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From msaw1@mdw021.cc.monash.edu.au Wed Mar 16 06:23:45 1994 > Does anyone out there know what viewmode option does and what > values does it take? Blitz manual (which is horrible) only mentions that > long version of screen command provides more control but it does't explain > what each option does. I was able to find most of the required info > scattered across the manual but nothing about viewmode. > Also, does anyone know how to kill mouse pointer in amiga mode > without changing its sprite to blank? > You can examine screen's viewmode from viewport-structure, 32 bytes from start of the structure: viewmode=peek.w(viewport(scr_number)+32) Here is explanation of modes (from book "Mapping the Amiga", I don't have RKMs yet): name (C) bit hex genlock_video 1 2 lace 2 4 pfba (?) 6 40 extra_halfbrite 7 80 genlock_audio 8 100 dualpf 10 400 ham 11 800 vp_hide (?) 13 2000 sprites 14 4000 hires 15 8000 ...these were listed in the book. As you can see, there is no mention about for example superhires, but you can find out missing modes by changing wbscreen to desired mode and peeking address given above. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 15:15:39 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA15265 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:15:28 +0200 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:15:14 +0000 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA06786; Thu, 17 Mar 94 13:11:43 GMT To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Shapez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:17:02 +0000 Message-Id: <25164.763910222@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes Status: RO Look I am glad you like it, but please give me a bit of time before you spread it. I have only been working on it for 8 hours! I've got a huge list of things to do and bugs to fix but thanks, please tell me what you want, and I will put it in. I am having a crap day, and Mike, you just cheered me up, thanks Nigel Hughes From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 17:30:05 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA25415 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:29:39 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:29:27 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:28:58 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:29:18 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:28:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:28:37 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<20450.9403171528@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Aminet.. Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <20450.9403171528@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Aminet.. Status: RO If we get it, sorry, WHEN we get it, will this list keep going? I hope so 'cos I'll miss you guys :( sniff Andy :) From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 18:38:07 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA02402 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:37:56 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:37:51 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:37:16 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:34:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:34:34 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<14373.9403171634@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <14373.9403171634@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO >>If we get it, sorry, WHEN we get it, will this list keep going? >>I hope so 'cos I'll miss you guys :( sniff >Oh, yes, it will. THe directory on Aminet will just be a place to put files >for us all to get. But, if I keep cheering up Nigel, I don't know what I'll >do!! Yeah, but don't do it too often or his head will probably explode 8) Theres probably hundreds of blitz users out there (how many people are on this list anyway) who are thinking, 'what the bloody hell are these people talking about, wasting time and flooding my mailbox' 8) And its all your fault Mike, you started this. Martin From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 18 15:46:50 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07722 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:45:19 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:32:58 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:32:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:30:33 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:30:33 +0200 X400-Originator: PHY93003%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk@birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<"18_Mar_94_10:30:33_GMT_#6605"@] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: aslrequest/bum6 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: SgtBilko Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Message-ID: <"18_Mar_94_10:30:33_GMT_#6605"@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090> To: Blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: aslrequest/bum6 Status: RO hi all, Ive finally got the asl file requester to work without crashing (no thanks to the aslfilerequest command!), using the library call AllocASLRequest_ and RequestFile_. Trubble is - it only wants to open up the file requester on the workbench screen, not the currently used one! Can anyone help me out here? Im actually at uni so im going home in a weeks time - if BUM6 is going to arrive in the next couple of weeks then its bound to be just after i leave and im pissed off by it. (im at home for 5 weeks - doing nothing at all ;) ). Do you know if were ever likely to see the blitz compiler as command line type thang so i can use my fave editor rather than ted (assuming ted isnt going to become magically transformed in BUM6). I wish i could fold my statements like in the AMOS editor (about the only thing i miss about amos ;) ). And i want multiple documents open on just one ted screen - having three screens open at once isnt exactly user friendly! (or memory for that matter!) Oh well - thats enough wishes for one mail, SgtBilko signing off.... From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 21 13:53:18 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA15347 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:52:58 +0200 Received: from athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:52:47 +0000 Received: from thorbb by athene.dcs.aber.ac.uk (4.1/aberclient-4.0-cs-1.1) id AA09053; Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:49:10 GMT To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Shapez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:52:02 +0000 Message-Id: <2893.764250722@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> From: Nigel Hughes Status: RO Hi ALL, I have the latest version of Shapez with Auto-Grabbing, configuration, graphical handle setting and loads of extra stuff. Even though it is small please mail ME if you want a copy. All joking aside it does have a whole host of new features, if you all want a version I guess I can put it here. Missing you already (well apart from Mike;) Nigel HUghes From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 22 18:27:49 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA09151 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:27:06 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:26:49 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:26:26 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:26:51 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:26:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:26:30 +0200 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<20918.9403221626@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Elmorelib Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <20918.9403221626@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Elmorelib Status: RO Argh! My ftp is shagged! I can't get at the new library.. Would one of you luverly people mail it too me? Ta very much, Andy PS. While I'm at it.. Y'know the options menu where you can view the .res files etc, well, I can't do it anymore. I try typing in the amigalib.res and it loads it as resident but I can't view it! Maybe I'm missing something here (a brain?!) From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 23 11:20:35 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA24454 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 11:19:47 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 11:19:31 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 11:18:42 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 11:16:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 11:16:01 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<5388.9403230916@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <5388.9403230916@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello blitzers, I have some serious problems with blitz (well I think its a problem with blitz rather than with my program, but moe on that in a sec). Heres the situation. I am developing a game in blitz, and apart from a few bugs, its pretty stable at the moment, but it is getting pretty large (the exe is 175k with no debug-info). Now, if I compile the program *without* debug-info, then the game runs perfectly okay, in fact yesterday I played it on about a dozen occasions with no problems whatsoever. Now, if I compile the program with debug-info enabled, things get somewhat hairy. The program crashes over and over again at seemingly randome points, in fact it doesn't run for more than a couple of minutes without crashing. And when I say crash, I mean a total system failure (either a machine lockup or a software guru box). Thats with no message from the debugger at all. Also, to make matters worse, if I put STOP commands around the code, 9 times out of 10, the game will again crash majorly, and the debugger just plain refuses to stop at the required line. All this has been happening over the last few days. I have tried reinstalling blitz, but to no avail. I wa wondering if maybe the debugger is straining under the presssure of such a large amount of code and symbols?? I'm not sure, but if the debugger cannot handle this much information, then I'm in trouble. And as I mentioned above, my game works fine with no debug-information. Does anybody have any ideas on this. Is it possible to break down a program into separate modules, and turn off debug-info for certain modules to see if this eases the strain. Any help will be greatly appreciated, I need the debugger since I am making last minute alterations to the code and I need to look at variables. Thanks Martin Kift email: cekift@uk.ac.swan.pyr From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 23 12:25:55 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA28545 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:25:31 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:25:26 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:24:47 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:22:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:22:05 +0200 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<8486.9403231022@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <8486.9403231022@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello again, I just managed to get through to AcidHouse UK, and bad news. They think it will be as much as two (!!) months before bum6 is released. Major bummer. At leat he confirmed that they they know about the major bugs (especially on accelerated machines) in the sfx, keyboard, and debugger (see previous letter) department, and these are being addressed. Martin Kift From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 23 23:01:32 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA09659 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:58:41 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA27907 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:58:40 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403232058.WAA27907@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Proggy collection To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:58:39 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 820 Status: RO First bad news: I can't start an anonymous ftp-place just for the list, as I tried. So we have to use second alternative: aminet But since "threshold" to upload something to aminet is quite high, I thought that it could be better, if I would collect all the stuff, and upload it to aminet in one archive. I'll include all programs already sended to the list (if you don't want that, please let me know). So if you have something to share, send it to me ! (and this is an order 8^) ) Easiest way of doing this would be just by replying to this letter, and including your program in uuencoded form. (For Unix, command for uuencoding is "uuencode", and if you use emacs as a mail-editor, you can include a file with "Ctrl+x Ctrl+i") BTW, where do you think I should upload them: in dev/misc/ or in dev/basic ? -Mikko From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 24 06:56:28 1994 Received: from CS.UWindsor.Ca (csgate.lamf.uwindsor.ca [137.207.192.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA29549 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 06:55:29 +0200 Received: from jabba.UUCP by CS.UWindsor.Ca (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA01452; Wed, 23 Mar 94 23:53:12 EST Received: by jabba.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0785z; Wed, 23 Mar 94 20:47:52 EDT Received: by vyper.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0092y; Wed, 23 Mar 94 20:34:07 EST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 20:34:07 EST Message-Id: <9403240134.AA0092x@vyper.uucp> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Content-Length: 197 From: vyper!Bill (Bill Staudt) (Bill Staudt) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Printing Status: RO Looking thru the manual, I did not find any info on sending output to your printer. Can anyone suggest a method. Also if your program is in a loop, is there a way to break and stop the program? From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 24 14:06:26 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA21558 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:05:43 +0200 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:05:17 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:03:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:00:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:00:15 +0200 X400-Originator: PHY93003%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk%ibm3090.computer-centre.birmingham.ac.uk@birmingham.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<"24_Mar_94_12:00:15_GMT_#0794"@] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: bREAKING OUT ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: SgtBilko Sender: PHY93003@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk Message-ID: <"24_Mar_94_12:00:15_GMT_#0794"@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090> To: Blitz-list@HELSINKI.fi Subject: bREAKING OUT OF A PROGRAM Status: RO Have you tried CTRL-ALT-C ? Invoke the debugger then hit escape to halt program execution - if you have gadgets and stuff then you may need to cause an idcmp event type thing. By the way - can we just determine what the differences are between versions of blitz in the uk and usa? Here in the uk from Amiga Format i got User Manual, Reference guide, 4 archived disks. BUM1-4 were in the User guide and BUM5 disk was archived on one of the others. The archives contained main blitz disk, BUM5 disk, Blitzlibs, examples, pd disks 1-4. I have received no addendum and no BUM6 8^{. There are references in the user guide to an advanced developers pack or something. There is only a couple of references, and nothing about how to get it/ how much it costs/ what it actually is! If anyones interested ill have my adventure creator type thang ready around 6th May ish (im off for 5 weeks easter hols now ;). If you want it email me personally. Seeyall in 5 weeks...... SgtBilko From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 24 21:20:01 1994 Received: from klaava.Helsinki.FI (klaava.Helsinki.FI [128.214.4.113]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA19165 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 21:19:30 +0200 Received: from localhost (mmmakela@localhost) by klaava.Helsinki.FI (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA16471 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 21:19:29 +0200 From: Mikko Makela Message-Id: <199403241919.VAA16471@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Subject: Printing (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 21:19:28 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 231 Status: RO Forwarded message: > > Looking thru the manual, I did not find any info on sending output to your printer. > Can anyone suggest a method. There are some examples of using printer in BUM5 in directory named PrinterStuff. -Mikko From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 25 03:14:31 1994 Received: from CS.UWindsor.Ca (csgate.lamf.uwindsor.ca [137.207.192.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA06639 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 03:14:24 +0200 Received: from jabba.UUCP by CS.UWindsor.Ca (4.1/SMI-DDN) id AA02932; Thu, 24 Mar 94 20:12:29 EST Received: by jabba.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA078hl; Thu, 24 Mar 94 19:45:44 EDT Received: by vyper.uucp (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00936; Thu, 24 Mar 94 19:14:00 EST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 19:14:00 EST Message-Id: <9403250014.AA00935@vyper.uucp> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Content-Length: 385 From: vyper!Bill (Bill Staudt) (Bill Staudt) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Printing (again) Status: RO Mikko Makela suggested that I look in Bum5 disks for examples. The only problem is that I did not receive any disks in my Blitz Package. Only the Bum 1-5 magazines. Is there a way to get these disks? If you order your package from the states, you will receive the User Guide, Reference Manual and 5 Disks (Program, Libaries, Examples and two Pd Disks). Also Bum 1-5 Magazines. Bill From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 25 12:07:03 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA23373 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 12:06:29 +0200 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <28930-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:06:23 +0100 Received: from charon0.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19803; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:05:50 +0100 Received: From MS1/WORKQUEUE by charon0.hsbos.nl via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940325110700.448; 25 Mar 94 11:07:01 -0100 Message-Id: From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:06:49 NFT-1 Subject: Sprites on WB screen Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Status: RO How can I use sprites on a WB screen? I know you can't do it with the normal BB2 commands, but maybe someone did it allready? ------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ \|/ | Email Adres: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | \ (o) (o) /| | Systems: Amiga 2000, 68030 fpu, 6Mb | | / / \ \| | Super Nintendo | \_____/ | Sega Mega CD | | | | PC 486DX-33 | /--o-o--\ | soon: Amiga 5000 beta | ------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ ) To multitask a PC you have to run a PC emulator on the Amiga twice. From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 25 12:53:22 1994 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA26695 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 12:53:18 +0200 Received: from aixserv.hsbos.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP) id <29819-0@relay.surfnet.nl>; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:52:59 +0100 Received: from charon0.hsbos.nl by aixserv.hsbos.nl (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23860; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:52:21 +0100 Received: From MS1/WORKQUEUE by charon0.hsbos.nl via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940325115325.480; 25 Mar 94 11:53:36 -0100 Message-Id: From: Jurgen Valks Organization: Hogeschool 's-Hertogenbosch To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:53:16 NFT-1 Subject: Vwait Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Status: RO Is it possible to wait on a specified line? Why refreshing the whole screen while using just 200 or less lines... ------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ \|/ | Email Adres: j.valks@hsbos.nl | | \ (o) (o) /| | Systems: Amiga 2000, 68030 fpu, 6Mb | | / / \ \| | Super Nintendo | \_____/ | Sega Mega CD | | | | PC 486DX-33 | /--o-o--\ | soon: Amiga 5000 beta | ------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ ) To multitask a PC you have to run a PC emulator on the Amiga twice. From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 25 16:11:31 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA08696 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 16:11:11 +0200 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 13:53:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 13:52:54 GMT Message-Id: <21245.9403251352@nimbostratus.met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: vwait To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO How about: While Vpos; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 06:30:45 +0200 From: KIRKSTAR@NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU Message-Id: <199403260430.GAA12205@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU by NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3022; Fri, 25 Mar 94 23:30:42 EST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 23:30:41 EST To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO ;program = nprint.bug ; This demonstrates a bug with the format and nprint commands ; that occurs in Blitz2 version 1.70, via Blitz User Disk BUM #5, ; and ROM 2.05. ; ; internet email: (Hawkins Kirk) ; Hawkins@phast.umass.edu (UMASS Dept. Physics/Astronomy) ; Kirkstar@npvm.newpaltz.edu (SUNY, Kirk Planetarium) ;format # bug makes 99.999 appear instead as 00.00 ; ^ ; with the leading digit omitted............| bug: BitMap 0,640,200,2 Screen 0,0,0,640,200,2,$8000,"Format + NPrint BUG!",1,0,0 Use Screen 0 : Cls : BitMapOutput 0 : ShowBitMap 0 RGB 0,0,0,0 : RGB 1,12,12,12 Window 0,0,0,640,200,$100f,"Format + NPrint BUG!",1,0 Use Window 0 : WJam 0 ; DEFTYPE .f WLocate 0,10 : Format "+####.##" X.f=99.999 NPrint "CONSIDER: What should X.f look like?" NPrint "X.f is really 99.999" NPrint " wrong |" NPrint " v" NPrint "X formatted as +####.## is ",X," NO!" NPrint "X+.001 formatted as +####.## is ",.001+X," Yes." NPrint "" NPrint "------------------------------------------------" NPrint "" Y.q=99.999 NPrint "CONSIDER: What should Y.q look like?" NPrint "Y.q is really 99.999" NPrint " Both wrong |" NPrint " v" NPrint "Y formatted as +####.## is ",Y," NO!" NPrint "Y+.001 formatted as +####.## is ",.001+Y," NO!" NPrint "" NPrint "But then" NPrint "Y+.01 formatted as +####.## is ",.01+Y," (rounded)" NPrint "" NPrint "---------------------------------------------------" NPrint "CLICK MOUSE TO EXIT." MouseWait End ;end-of-program From blitz-list-request Sat Mar 26 11:27:45 1994 Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA15763 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 11:27:31 +0200 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA10873 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:27:09 +1000 Received: from kumear.UUCP (Ukumear@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.7/8.6.6.Beta11-bw1) with UUCP id TAA24890 for cc.helsinki.fi!blitz-list; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:23:16 +1000 Received: by kumear.apana.org.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA007h9; Sat, 26 Mar 94 17:16:22 EST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 17:16:22 EST Message-Id: <9403262216.AA007h8@kumear.apana.org.au> From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: More commands. Status: RO Hi All, I have finally gotten around to doing some serious converting from GFA over to blitz2. Listed below are commands which I've had to write custom functions for. Having written them, I suppose there's not much need for them to be included in Blitz, but it sure would be nice. Perhaps these could be included in Blitz2 or added like the commands in Elmorelib. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ERASE z1()[,z2()...] Function: Erase the given array. INSERT x(i)=y DELETE x(i) Function: To insert or delete elements from an array (Not a list array). INSERT will insert the value, dropping the last element in the array and moving all later values down 1 element. ARRAYFILL x(),y Function: Fill all elements of the given array with the value of y. STR$(x,y) Function: Pads the returned string with leading spaces to make the string y characters in length. MOD(x,y) DIV(x,y) Function: Return value from numeric function x MOD y or x DIV y DEC x INC x Function: Increase or decrease the given variable by 1 unit. ODD x EVEN x Function: Return True/False if given variable is odd or even. MID$(a$,x[,y]) as command Function: Allows the insertion of a string into another string. TRIM$(a$) Function: Removes white-space from both ends of given string. ELSE IF Function: Allows for more than 3 undefined options in an IF-ENDIF block. EXIT IF con Function: Exits looping routine of con is true. ERR ERR$(x) Function: ERR returns the error number of an offending error. ERR$(x) returns a string containing what the error was. -- Via DLG Pro v1.0 phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 28 19:01:17 1994 Received: from pereiii.uji.es (pereiii.uji.es [150.128.1.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03262 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:59:40 +0300 Message-Id: <199403281559.SAA03262@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA26964; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:02:05 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05906; Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:04:11 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: Array Init To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:04:10 METDST Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 28 21:16:02 1994 Received: from pereiii.uji.es (pereiii.uji.es [150.128.1.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA10016 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:15:24 +0300 Message-Id: <199403281815.VAA10016@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA28551; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 20:17:55 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09886; Mon, 28 Mar 94 20:20:03 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: Array init (sorry 4 previous blank message) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 20:20:02 METDST Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO Hi all How can I initialize an array with some determinated values? I do it using DATA and READ, but i'd like to know if it is possible to do it directly like in C (myarray=[1,2,...]) Also, I am trying to use the function Poly, giving an array of words to it containing the X and Y coords of the polygon, but I get something strange on my screen. I've tried doing it with Line and works fine. If anybody knows where is the problem, please, tell me. Ramon Macia (iiso29@rossegat.uji.es) From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 29 14:01:57 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA28516 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 14:00:32 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 11:59:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 11:59:52 BST Message-Id: <5486.9403291059@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper again To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hi guys Have a look at the example of CustomCop in the manual - I reckon there are some pretty cool special FX could be reproduced with the code there. For exampe, if anyone else out there plays Stardust and admired the ripply water effect on the special mission levels, I reckon you could use Copper pokes to the adresses given in the example to acheive such an effect, using a minimal amount of memory and power. Investigations have only begun, Ive got to try this out for dual playfields now. Ill post results later, when I know what Im doing. Over and Out Mike From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 29 15:16:00 1994 Received: from pereiii.uji.es (pereiii.uji.es [150.128.1.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA04322 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 15:13:12 +0300 Message-Id: <199403291213.PAA04322@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA10039; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 14:15:39 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28456; Tue, 29 Mar 94 14:17:45 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: Bug in Poly functions? To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 14:17:45 METDST Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO ; Hi all, I think there is a bug in the Poly/Polyf functions. ; Try the following program. It is the same as the example from ; BUM 1-5 page 48, but using an array instead of a NEWTYPE ; It worked fine with NEWTYPES (and arrays inside NEWTYPES), ; but failed with arrays, and BUM says that arrays can also be used. ; Try it, and tell me, please. Dim a.w(6) BLITZ BitMap 0,320,256,3 Slice 0,44,3 Show 0 Repeat For i=0 To 4 Step 2 a(i)=Rnd(320) a(i+1)=Rnd(256) Next Polyf 3,a,1+Rnd(7) Until Joyb(0) Free Slice 0 Free BitMap 0 AMIGA ; Ramon Macia (iiso29@rossegat.uji.es) From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 30 01:18:27 1994 Received: from zeus (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA20668 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:17:46 +0300 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios) by zeus with SMTP id AA11390 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 08:19:27 -1000 Message-Id: <199403301819.AA11390@zeus> Received: by helios.usq.edu.au From: tom duncan Subject: Gadgets fix To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 08:10:28 +1000 (EST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2574 Status: RO Here is a little routine that I found on a network the other day. BTW bum6 (2x lha disks) should be available by thursday or Friday THIS week. (true story) Conf:[INTL] - Blitz Basic 2 Support Date:03-26-94 Time:14:56 To:Perry Mowbray From:Nick Cross Subj:list view source Okay, I finally found time to do a basic listview proggie... ; ; How to... part 1. ; ; ... A gadtools library listview gadget ; ; by Nick Cross. 26/03/94 ; ; please use amigalibs.res ; ;-------- YOU MUST HAVE THIS IDCMP FLAG ! ------- #LISTVIEWIDCMP=#GADGETUP|#GADGETDOWN|#INTUITICKS|#MOUSEBUTTONS|#MOUSEMOVE FindScreen 0 NEWTYPE .test ;the bb2_listview structure a.w:b$ End NEWTYPE ;--------- make a list ----------- Dim List a.test(20):For i= 1 To 20:AddItem a():a()\b="ITEM "+Str$(i):Next ;--------- add the gadget to the screen --------- GTListView 2,5,90,90,120,100,"GT__LISTVIEW",1,a() ;--------- MUST ADD THE IDCMP FLAGS !!!! ----------- AddIDCMP #LISTVIEWIDCMP Window 0,20,0,600,220,$100f,"HELLO",1,2,2 ;--------- Attach the gad to the window ------------ AttachGTList 2,0 ;--------- wait for the left mousey ---------- MouseWait ;--------- do something to the list ---------- GTChangeList 2,5 ResetList a() count.b=0 While NextItem(a()) a()\b=Str$(count) count+1 Wend GTChangeList 2,5,a() ;-------- check which item has been selected --------- Repeat ev.l=WaitEvent If ev=$40 NPrint ev," ",GadgetHit," ",EventCode," ",EventQualifier EndIf Until ev=$200 ;------- finished, drop back to the editor ---------- End ;;;------- cut here -------- Hope that helps someone.... The EventCode function returns the actual item pressed, hopefully in BUM6 (if it really exists!) there'll be a few changes and REAL GT_functions will be available for us to use, instead of these hacks. ;^) cheers, /\/ick. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Im nearly a programmer, but hacking is more fun and it it produces much | | more spectacular results. -= Especially in Blitz Basic 2 =- | +-------------+-----------------------+---------------------+-------------+ | Replies To: | Amy_NET 41:649/235 | Fido_NET 3:772/235 | Abuse >NIL: | +-------------+-----------------------+---------------------+-------------+ also ncro01@cs.aukuni.ac.nz <--- internet??? --- Xenolink 1.0 Z.3 * Origin: C= User Group BBS, Auckland, NZ. 64-9-528-5872 (41:649/235) Hope this helps other people who have had problems with the Gadgets also. Yours Tom Duncan University of Southern Queensland duncan@usq.edu.au From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 31 16:23:55 1994 Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA26999 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:23:49 +0300 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA26035 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 23:23:11 +1000 Received: from kumear.UUCP (Ukumear@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.7/8.6.6.Beta11-bw1) with UUCP id WAA18680 for cc.helsinki.fi!blitz-list; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 22:58:07 +1000 Received: by kumear.apana.org.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA007jm; Wed, 30 Mar 94 23:27:42 EST Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 23:27:42 EST Message-Id: <9403310427.AA007jl@kumear.apana.org.au> From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: Re: indent.bb (program for indenting) Status: RO In a message dated Mikko Makela Here is a little program I made today. It indents Blitz programs. Hmmm. Code sure was small. Executable sure as hell wasn't. There's gotta be something wrong somewhere when 2K of code compiles to 40K+ of executable. Unless I'm doing something wrong, this seems to be an awful bad exe/code ratio. -- Via DLG Pro v1.0 phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 31 16:07:47 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA26380 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:06:23 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:06:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 14:06:02 BST Message-Id: <6625.9403311306@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Files To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Read this file carefully, then eat your terminal. We don't want this to get into the hands of the Commies.... The adresses $108 and $10A indicate the memory shift to be performed at the start of each scan line, for even and odd bitplanes respectively. Their values should match for normal screens, and represent fg & bg in a dual playfield. The default value is related to the width of the bitmap being displayed as follows: BPLMOD=(BITMAP WIDTH - WINDOW WIDTH)/8 - 2 ^ ^ ^ ^ Value Width par. in Slice A Byte God knows? The effect of this is to jump the excess width of the bitmap if you are hardware scrolling, and start each line 1 pixel down from the previous one. Now calculate BMLINE=bitmap Width/8 (size of a line in bytes) Now, if you want to miss every second line on the bitmap, add BMLINE to the value of BPLMOD. The screen will appear squashed by a factor of 2 in the vertical. Subtract BMLINE from BPLMOD and you jump back a line, thus making each line displayed the same as the previous one. Subtract 2*BMLINE and the screen is displayed upside down, and so on. Value Description BPLMOD+0*BMLINE Normal BPLMOD+1*BMLINE Half height BPLMOD+2*BMLINE Third Height BPLMOD-1*BMLINE Vertical stripes (each line shows same memory) BPLMOD-2*BMLINE Upside down BPLMOD-3*BMLINE Upside down & Half Height etc. The trick is to use the copper to write to these adresses at certain beam positions, to create warped/flipped areas of the screen. Mike Cooper From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 31 16:20:23 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA26914 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:20:18 +0300 Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.meteorology; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:18:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 14:17:53 BST Message-Id: <6833.9403311317@met.ed.ac.uk> From: M Cooper Subject: Copper Files To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Alright, the ripply effect: Set up a dual playfield (320x256), and we'll ripple the background for i=1 to15 bplmod=-2 if i&1=1 then bplmod=-82 CustomCop Mki$($10A)+Mki$(bplmod),slice_top+i*16 next What have I done? The first 16 scan lines are normal. The next sixteen count backwards, so we see the same part of the bitmap upside down. The next sixteen are normal again, and so look identical to the first sixteen. And so on. Note that the first sixteen lines of the background bitmap are repeated over and over again, we cannot see the bottom of it on screen. You can get away with displaying a bitmap only 16 pixels high, and still fill the screen. Set aside a bitmap 320x32 and draw some nice wibbly patterns on it. Now move it up and down Repeat For i=0 to 15 Vwait : ShowB 1,0,i Next For i=14 to 1 step -1 Vwait : ShowB 1,0,i Next Until JoyB(0)<>0 Wibbly wobbly woo woo! DISCLAIMER: I havent actually tried the above myself yet, I just think it should work. I'll have a go over the weekend and post any corrections required. Mike From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 5 15:37:28 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA27167 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:37:07 +0300 Received: from eunet.fi by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 06:34:56 +0300 Received: by eunet.fi with UUCP id AA14842 (5.65c+l/IDA-1.4.4 for helsinki.fi!blitz-list); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 06:34:49 +0300 Received: by fipnet.fi (smail2.5) id AA13479; 4 Apr 94 20:57:53 DS Received: by midearth.fipnet.fi (V1.16/Amiga) id AA001q9; Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:33:44 EET Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:33:44 EET Message-Id: <9404041833.AA001q8@midearth.fipnet.fi> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Organization: Fipnet X-Charset: LATIN1 From: janl@midearth.fipnet.fi (Jan Lindstrom) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: True AGA Graphics Status: RO Can you load 256 color pictures to BlitzBasic 2 v1.7 ? I have included the source code of my program. This is only a example, in real program I try to scroll that picture too. All works nice up to 32 colors (you can load that 256 color picture ok but you lose true colors). In AmigaFormat and other magazines I have seen mentioned AGA support, but when it will be here ? Oh that example program will give Sofware Failure, any reasons ? .Main BitMap 0,896,512,8 LoadBitMap 0,"pic/Bloks.pic",0 LoadPalette 0,"pic/palette.iff",0 BLITZ Slice 0,44,368,283,$fff8,8,8,256,896,896 Use Slice 0 Show 0 MouseWait Free Slice 0 Free Bitmap 0 Free Palette 0 AMIGA End Jan Lindstrom Fipnet & Internet: janl@midearth.fipnet.fi Karhusuontie 64 Fidonet : 2:220/550 02810 ESPOO FINLAND Ash nazg durbatuluk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul - J.R.R.T From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 5 15:35:05 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA26891 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:34:53 +0300 Received: from mail.netcom.com (actually netcom2.netcom.com) by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 04:02:04 +0300 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA20562; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:02:48 -0700 From: lull@netcom.com (Robert Edgar) Message-Id: <199404050102.SAA20562@mail.netcom.com> Subject: Public Screens To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 824 Status: RO How do I send the Blitz2 graphics to a Public Screen of my naming? I am trying to use MainAuthor to stream a Ham8 animation, and want to have my Blitz2 program use that Ham8 Public Screen for its own graphics and interactivity when the anim is not streaming. I've used WbToScreen to send Blitz2 to the workbench, but while that gives me 256 colors, it won't give me Ham8. And I haven't gotten FindScreen to work with a Ham8 screen, it opens its own window but not on the named screen. Alternatively, anyone able to load an anim larger than CHIP ram (i.e. almost any AGA anim), either into FAST ram for playback or streaming from disk? Blitz2 seems to be loading the anims into CHIP RAM, which doesn't get me very far. Or maybe I've got a setting off? Anyway, thanks for any help on this. Robert Edgar lull@netcom.com From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 5 17:43:21 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA09314 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:43:06 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <13192-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:42:17 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa01852; 5 Apr 94 15:42 BST Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:42:09 BST From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9404051442.AA12978@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi, s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au Subject: Re: ProgressInd.bb2 - Progress Indicator for WB Status: RO I am interested. These routines could be usefull in a project I am working on. Could you email them to me direct or post them please. Thanks -Andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Andy Malcolm + + Comms Group - Product Development + + MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems. + + email amalcolm@mdis.co.uk + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+" From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 6 20:07:23 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net (relay1.pipex.net [158.43.128.4]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA26594 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:05:49 +0300 Received: from mdis.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <07777-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:04:25 +0100 Received: from gx2.uk.mdis.com by gate.mdis.com id aa04180; 6 Apr 94 18:04 BST Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:04:17 BST From: Andy Malcolm Message-Id: <9404061704.AA21814@gx2> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Good Luck !!! Status: RO >From @relay1.pipex.net:dbengels@encore.com Wed Apr 6 17:22:26 1994 Received: from relay1.pipex.net by gate.mdis.com id ag03359; 6 Apr 94 17:22 BST Received: from ns.encore.com by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <03351-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:36:48 +0100 Received: from dino.encore.com by ns.encore.com with SMTP id AA06989 (5.59/UK-2.1-940113); Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:35:27 EDT Received: by dino.encore.com id AA288827 (5.67/UK-2.1-921104); Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:32:03 -0400 From: Doug Bengels Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:32:03 -0400 Message-Id: <288827.9404061532@dino.encore.com> To: swray@mx1.mdis.co.uk Cc: amalcolm@mdis.com, dbengels@encore.com, jjohnsto@encore.com, mrugare@encore.com, pfong@encore.com, pstickel@encore.com, rschache@encore.com, schang@encore.com, sfalvai@encore.com, tshafer@encore.com Status: RO On Mon, 4 Apr 1994 ctg3001@andy.bgsu.edu wrote: \\\|||/// \\\|||/// \\\|||/// . ======= . ======= . ======= / \| O O | / \| O O | / \| O O | \ / \v_'/ \ / \v_'/ \ / \v_'/ # _| |_ # _| |_ # _| |_ (#) ( ) (#) ( ) (#) ( ) #\//|* *|\\ #\//|* *|\\ #\//|* *|\\ #\/( * )/ #\/( * )/ #\/( * )/ # ===== # ===== # ===== # (\ /) # (\ /) # (\ /) # || || # || || # || || .#---'| |----. .#---'| |----. .#---'| |----. #----' -----' #----' -----' #----' -----' This message has been sent to you for good luck. 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Bye, Sriram -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "To avoid seeing a fool, break your mirror" d:^) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Apr 7 14:53:33 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA25349 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:51:40 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:50:51 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:50:27 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:50:53 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:50:44 +0300 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:50:44 +0300 X400-Originator: csi059%cch.coventry.ac.uk@hermes.coventry.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<23342.9404071150@cch.coventry.a] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Blitz I guess... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Sandman Message-ID: <23342.9404071150@cch.coventry.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Blitz I guess! Status: RO First of all, thanks to the guy who posted some stuff on the changelist. I used his idea and now I'm using all the new gt stuff, sure is great! But, I'm stuck elsewhere now! Regarding 256 colour screens, I now know that I should be using initcop, createdisplay, etc but it just makes my screen go funny. Well, weird would be more acurate as I don't find myself laughing when it happens. Basically, I can create a 256 colour screen in AMIGA or BLITZ mode but when it comes to changing the palette or displaying a picture it's 'bomb-out city!' Any help/source would be greatly appreciated. Getting back to the new gt stuff.. How can I change the level of a slider gadget, I need to tie three together. How can I enable a gtgadget? Enable doesn't find the new gadgets.. I think that's all for now.. Andy :) PS. How come my best special effects are produced by system crashes?! From blitz-list-request Fri Apr 8 16:18:33 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA10914 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:16:40 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:14:59 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:14:24 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:12:21 +0300 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:12:21 +0300 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<16556.9404081312@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <16556.9404081312@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello, Can anybody tell me what is the best way of checking for the existance of a file before attempting to load? I am fed up of having blitz programs crash the system when a file is requested for loading which isn't there!?!? Any news on BUM6 also 8) (optimistic or what!) Martin From blitz-list-request Sat Apr 9 20:17:42 1994 Received: from mail.netcom.com (netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA09681 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:16:46 +0300 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA15133; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:17:52 -0700 From: lull@netcom.com (Robert Edgar) Message-Id: <199404091717.KAA15133@mail.netcom.com> Subject: Ham8 Window Pallettes To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 381 Status: RO Hmm. OK, so I can open a window on a public screen from Blitz2, ok so far. But I can't get the palette correct. Is there a way to make an intuition call to set the pallette for a shanghai Ham8 window? I have a *special* pallette that I use for all my Ham8 stuff, but I can't seem to invoke it for shanghai'd windows. Any help appreciated--thanks. Robert Edgar lull@netcom.com From blitz-list-request Sun Apr 10 02:25:15 1994 Received: from sol.newcastle.edu.au (sol.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.96.103]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA13637 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 02:24:48 +0300 Received: from sage.newcastle.edu.au by sol.newcastle.edu.au with SMTP id AA28463 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 09:24:31 +1000 From: Brett Johansen Message-Id: <199404092324.AA28463@sol.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: vertical copper wrap To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 09:24:22 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 461 Status: RO HI, Can anyone out there help me to produce 8 way scrolling using blitz? Horizontal scrolling is no problem (just adjust bitplane pointers by a word for every 16pixels scrolled) but I've seen this combined with vertical scrolling using the copper wrap method. any hints\source on the copper wrap method would be great! On another note is BUM6 out I've being waiting 3months now so whats the story? Brett Johansen c9108939@cs.newcastle.edu.au From blitz-list-request Sun Apr 10 12:49:10 1994 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au ([192.188.107.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA18123 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:48:44 +0300 Received: from kumear.UUCP (Ukumear@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.7/bw-nf2) with UUCP id TAA29730 for cc.helsinki.fi!blitz-list; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:25:00 +1000 Received: by kumear.apana.org.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA007no; Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:25:28 EST Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:25:28 EST Message-Id: <9404092325.AA007nn@kumear.apana.org.au> From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: Re: File existence Status: RO In a message dated "C. Jennings" > Can anybody tell me what is the best way of checking for the > > existance of a file before attempting to load? I am fed up > > of having blitz programs crash the system when a file is > > requested for loading which isn't there!?!? > The easiest way to do this within Blitz is probably to use the > ReadFile() > function. It will return a zero (false) if it fails, and since it The easiest way is to use the Exists() command! Having said that, it depends on exactly what you want to do with the file once you have found it! -- Via DLG Pro v1.0 phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Mon Apr 11 14:38:05 1994 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au ([192.188.107.58]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA19767 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:37:45 +0300 Received: from kumear.UUCP (Ukumear@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.7/nf3) with UUCP id VAA07942 for cc.helsinki.fi!blitz-list; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 21:37:00 +1000 Received: by kumear.apana.org.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA007o0; Sun, 10 Apr 94 19:29:29 EST Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 19:29:29 EST Message-Id: <9404110029.AA007nz@kumear.apana.org.au> From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) To: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi Subject: Re: Checking for file. Status: RO In a message dated Mr M Sawicki > Can anybody tell me what is the best way of checking for the MMS> > existance of a file before attempting to load? I am fed up MMS> You can use dos routine open to check if file exists. If I remember MMS> correctly, it returns 0 if unsuccessful, otherwise its a file MMS> handle. For more info on the routine refer to hardwre manuals. Hmmm. How about just using the Blitz command Exists()? -- Via DLG Pro v1.0 phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au From blitz-list-request Mon Apr 11 14:35:04 1994 Received: from NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU (npvm.newpaltz.edu [137.140.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA19552 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:32:29 +0300 From: KIRKSTAR@NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU Message-Id: <199404111132.OAA19552@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU by NPVM.NEWPALTZ.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1909; Mon, 11 Apr 94 07:33:27 EDT Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 20:40:41 EDT To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO To: Amiga 3D-coders From: G. Hawkins Kirk About: 3D+glasses; here's a demo and some code. This [uuencoded(lha'd)] file contains: xspecs.asm ;3D-glasses enable/disable/driver code 3D-Blitz2.exe ;executable demo of elementary 3D+glasses display 3D-Blitz2.exe.info ;Blitz2 icon Enjoy. -GHK From blitz-list-request Mon Apr 11 14:56:27 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA20380 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:56:08 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:56:01 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:55:30 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:19 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:19 +0300 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<14563.9404111153@pyr.swan.ac.uk] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <14563.9404111153@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello, Can anybody advise me on the best (easiest/quickest/safest) was of moving graphics/mods etc from chip into fast mem. Basically, I want to program my game so it takes advantage of any fast mem in the system, storing unused items in fast to reduce loading. Do I have to go through the system to allocate/copy mem, and if so, could anybody help me with a few examples. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look out for my first BB2 game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon-ish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 12 04:49:02 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA12710 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 04:48:24 +0300 Received: from sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.108]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA12661 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:48:16 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8/client-1.3) id LAA02448; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:48:11 +1000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:48:11 +1000 Message-Id: <199404120148.LAA02448@sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: BUM6 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: RO BUM6 is now out. I received mine yesterday. UK users may have to wait as their distributer is ill. Mark. PS where can I get an archiever to extract files from a *.lha file The Lharc program I use didn't recognise the format when I tried to extract files from the developers.lha file. PPS BUM6 is in disk form. From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 12 11:56:53 1994 Received: from pereiii.uji.es (pereiii.uji.es [150.128.1.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA24125 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:56:27 +0300 Message-Id: <199404120856.LAA24125@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA08938; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 10:58:55 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29685; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:01:19 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: recent mail To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:01:19 METDST Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO Hi! Where can I find last two weeks mail posted to this list? Thanks in advance -- Ramon Macia (iiso29@rossegat.uji.es) Universitat Jaume I (Spain) From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 12 16:36:16 1994 Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.220.11]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA07721 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:34:46 +0300 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id PAA13282; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:34:43 +0200 Received: by gfl.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24130; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:38:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:38:33 +0200 Message-Id: <9404121338.AA24130@gfl.se> From: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) Return-Receipt-To: sand@gfl.se (Peter Sandberg) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Greetings, presentation and questins Status: RO Hello everybody! I'm a 27 year old blitz user from Stockholm, Sweden, who is new to this list. I was very happy to see that there actually existed such a list since I haven't had anyone to discuss topics related to blitz-programming. I like beer, karate(2nd Dan) and women(I'm married). Of course I also like programming. My current job is as a research engineer at the Swedish Graphich Arts Research Institute. 1989 I bought an Amiga 2000 HD which I had decided to learn how to program on. I started out with Amiga Basic(yuk!) and assembler(puh) and played around with them for a couple of years. Then Amos came and I was stuck on it since the very first day I bought it. I never thought that anything could even compete with it until I read about Amiga Formats BlitzBasic Compo last autumn. I decided to buy it and decided I liked it. I and a friend of me even completed a game which we sent as an entry to the competition(I have not yet heard the results though). I'm really stuck with BB2 now and I hope that I may found people here that think like me. Now to some new-to-the-list questions. - How long has this list been around? - How many subscribers are there? - Is there any connection to Acid Software( i.e do they read this list)? - Is it possible to receive a list of all subscribers? Best Regards Peter Sandberg sand@gfl.se From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 13 02:41:23 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA05353 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 02:40:16 +0300 Received: from sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.108]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA01906 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:39:29 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8/client-1.3) id JAA02479; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:39:22 +1000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:39:22 +1000 Message-Id: <199404122339.JAA02479@sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: RO > From J.VALKS@ms1.hsbos.nl Tue Apr 12 17:13:06 1994 > From: Jurgen Valks > To: Mark Kuzmycz > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:13:03 NFT-1 > Subject: Re: BUM6 > > > BUM6 is now out. > > > > I received mine yesterday. > > > > UK users may have to wait as their distributer is ill. > > > Are there new improvements? New commands? Better examples? > > Tell me please! > > Cya The only new commands are supplied by blitz users. To that end the elmore library has been include in blitz basic. Many printer commands have been added as well as MemAlloc and MemFree (I cannot remember the exact name (I haven't got may Amiga with me.) Also there is memory monitoring routines to determine the amounts of various memory that is free (Fast, chip). Also compression and decompression commands for power packer and imploder have been included. As far as I can tell 2 commands have been revamped ScreenPens which now has 7 argumants. SortList now supports by any field (I would have prefered to pass a function pointer for the comparison function). Some examples have been included but you need to judge for yourself if they are better. Intuitools has been revamped and only works for 2.0+ (rats I only have 1.3). That's all for now. I need to unarchieve various *.lha file to discover more but as of yet my Lharc cannot uncompress it. Does anyone know where I can get the latest version? (Or if Lharc is the wrong archieve which one should I be looking for?) Mark. From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 13 02:46:37 1994 Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA05457 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 02:45:35 +0300 Received: from sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au [128.184.80.108]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA02452 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:45:29 +1000 From: Mark Kuzmycz Received: by sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8/client-1.3) id JAA02481; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:45:24 +1000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:45:24 +1000 Message-Id: <199404122345.JAA02481@sauron.cm.deakin.edu.au> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: Re: BUM6 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: RO > I won't normally ask this, but can you send it to me. I am > a registered blitz user, and I have paid my subscription, but > as you say, here in the uk we are forced to wait, and its > BLOODY annoying. > > Basically, I want to release my new game to aminet, but bugs in > blitz (v1.7) are preventing me from doing this!!!!!!!!!! Acid > claim to have fixed them, but I need bum6. > > I'll do anything to prove I have blitz (type in pages from > the manual. etc, etc). Sorry, I do not have distribution rights. I would like to help out but my conscience won't let me. Mark. PS. you shouldn't have to wait too long (perhaps another week or two.) From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 13 15:42:50 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA16481 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:40:51 +0300 Message-Id: <199404131240.PAA16481@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from pereiii.uji.es by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:49:29 +0300 Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA28327; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:50:39 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18273; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:53:04 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: problems with pointers To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:53:02 METDST Reply-To: iiso29 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO Hi all! I can't find the way to make parameter passing by reference to return some value (I don't want to use SHARED). I think it should be like in C (i.e. foo{¶meter}) but I don't know how to refer to the value pointed by a pointer. I also had that problem when tried to access to values defined with Dc like this: *ptr.b=&text ; What can I do to read the value pointed by the pointer? text Dc.b "text",0 Any help would be apreciated. -- Ramon Macia (iiso29@rossegat.uji.es) From blitz-list-request Thu Apr 14 02:21:17 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA16114 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:20:26 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA01384 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:18:33 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9404132318.8247@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: BUM6 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:18:20 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1596 Status: RO > The only new commands are supplied by blitz users. To that end the elmore > library has been include in blitz basic. Many printer commands have been added > as well as MemAlloc and MemFree (I cannot remember the exact name (I haven't AllocMem and FreeMem (; These use Blitz's routine so will be freed by Blitz2 if you forget to free them yourself. Cool! > got may Amiga with me.) Also there is memory monitoring routines to > determine the amounts of various memory that is free (Fast, chip). Also > compression and decompression commands for power packer and imploder have > been included. > That's all for now. I need to unarchieve various *.lha file to discover more > but as of yet my Lharc cannot uncompress it. Does anyone know where I can get > the latest version? (Or if Lharc is the wrong archive which one should I be > looking for?) Use LhA. Can be found on Aminet. There are some things you should note: - library numbers #supportlib and #seriallib clash (both 90) so if you want to use the above AllocMem and FreeMem you must change #supportlib to something else (eg. 99) and recompile libmacs and then AmigaSupportLib. - Also HARDWARE.ElmoreLib.obj is missing. You need to recompile it from source code (can be found in one of the directories). Can some kind soul send me the last 10 tracks from the second BUM6? Mine are corrupt, :( o-------------- ---o | Son H. Le - internet address:s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au - no comment | o--- ------------o From blitz-list-request Thu Apr 14 15:38:45 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA05431 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:37:41 +0300 X400-Received: by mta funet.fi in /ADMD=fumail/C=fi/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:37:15 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:36:16 +0300 X400-Received: by /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:34:04 +0300 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:34:04 +0300 X400-Originator: cekift@pyramid.swansea.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<223.9404141234@pyr.swan.ac.uk>] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: m h kift Message-ID: <223.9404141234@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Status: RO Hello, Can anybody tell me what countries have been blessed with the release of BUM6 so far!?! Also, when can us downtroden blitz users in the UK expect to get it (BUM5 was 2-3 months late if memory serves me correct). As anybody in the UK rang head-office. If not, I'll do that tomorrow. Thanks for your time... +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Martin Kift email: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk | | Software developer. Procede Software Ltd. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Look out for my BB2 game 'StarWoids', available on aminet soon. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 00:35:30 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA15046 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:35:20 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id JAA03570 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:35:37 +1100 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA04845 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:35:15 +1100 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199402282235.JAA04845@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Intuition Planner To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:35:15 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 771 Status: RO G'day all, I just got my copy of Blitz Basic 2 last week from Amiga Format (great deal!) but don't seem to have got the intuition planner. There is a pic of it on th e back of the box, and it is also mentioned several times in the User Guide. Has anyone got any idea where I can get this program?? Also, what is the format of the MapEditor files?? There is no documentation on it at all, so how are we supposed to include its maps in our games?? Thanks in advance, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 13:22:12 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17335 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:21:55 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id WAA06828 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:22:12 +1100 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA16753 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:21:49 +1100 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403011121.WAA16753@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Copper under interrupt (Wibbles) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:21:49 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 417 Status: RO G'day all, Just out of interest, has anyone managed to program a wibble using the copper under interrupt yet in BB2?? Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 14:42:22 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA23644 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:42:16 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA09678 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 07:42:14 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403011242.AA09678@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Welcome ! To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 07:42:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9403010449.AA12411@metallica.asel.net> from "raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu" at Feb 28, 94 11:49:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 368 Status: RO > What's a BUM? Blitz User Magazine > Hey, what's this guy doing here? ;-) Shhh!! ;) Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 1 15:34:49 1994 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk (mailsun.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.7]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA26675 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:34:40 +0200 Received: from aber.ac.uk (actually decb.aber.ac.uk) by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:34:14 +0000 To: cekift@pyr.swan.ac.uk cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Subject: BUM6 and Skidmarks Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1994 13:34:06 +0000 Message-ID: <16386.762528846@aber.ac.uk> From: nlh1 Status: RO Martin. Well I had to chace Acid UK a bit to get Skidmarks, they had cashed my cheque but lost my order!!!!!!! Anyhow after highlighting the problem they sorted it all out and in three days I had Skidmarks! Yeah the palette is the same. The shapes get corrupted, like bytes are begin missed etc. I just cannot work out wether it is in the blitting or the getting, even the shape grabber gets this sometimes! Sometimes no corruption, sometimes there is, it is never in the same place or pattern! I shall give the nice chap at Acid Uk a bell. Let me know how you get on! Nigel Hughes Well I only have 30Mb free at the moment! From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 02:53:17 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA26284 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 02:52:48 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id LAA18805 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:53:05 +1100 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA27320 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:52:42 +1100 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403020052.LAA27320@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Insectoids To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:52:42 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 519 Status: RO G'day all, Just another (!!) query about the stuff that comes with BB2. On the back of the box, it has a pic for Insectoids, which looks different to the version on disk. Is this another version or what?? Just curious, Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 03:02:08 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA26449 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 03:02:03 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id MAA19017 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:02:20 +1100 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA27703 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:01:58 +1100 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403020101.MAA27703@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: CD32 library To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:01:57 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 664 Status: RO G'day all, It mentions somewhere in the manuals that Sibly and co are going to be writing a CD32 specific library. As there any news on this yet?? I have a CD32 (but not a 1200, am waiting for the CD32 expander), but would like to use the controller of the 32 (joypad), and all of its buttons (rather than just direction and 2 fire buttons). Thanks for any info, dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 2 13:44:06 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA25753 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:43:30 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id WAA03258 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:27:02 +1100 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA12893 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:26:35 +1100 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403021126.WAA12893@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Using BPLCON1 to scroll parts of copper list To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:26:35 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 869 Status: RO G'day all, As you may know from a previous post, I am interested in writing a wibble effect for the copper in Blitz. A problem that has occurred for me however, is that when I do the following: For i=0 To 15 co$=Mki$(#BPLCON1)+Mki$(i) CustomCop co$,i+100 VWait Show 0 Next i instead of scrolling all bitplanes over by the relevent degree, it will only move a bitplane or 2 (I'm not sure how many are moving). Why don't all the bitplanes move?? Am I forgetting to do something prior to this (maybe set BPLMOD or something??) ANy help would be appreciated. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 3 22:02:41 1994 Received: from dummy1.dur.ac.uk (dummy1.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.240]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA25601 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:02:24 +0200 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by dummy1.dur.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <08366-0@dummy1.dur.ac.uk>; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:02:07 +0000 Received: from deneb.dur.ac.uk by venus.dur.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Mar 94 20:02:01 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:01:58 +0000 (GMT) From: D P Marshall Subject: Windows and scrollbars To: blitz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Dear all, Anyone know how to get scroll bars in the bit of blue around the edges on an intuition window using either Gadtools or the standard gadgets? Thanks Dave Marshall +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | __ | | _/// Dave Marshall Talk requests to d3r6yw@deneb.dur.ac.uk not email | | \X/ D.P.Marshall@durham.ac.uk "Ask me anything - Fonts a specialty" | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 8 12:51:21 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA23572 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:51:00 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id UAA05203 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 20:50:50 +1000 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id UAA29127 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 20:50:25 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403081050.UAA29127@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Copper wibble To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 20:50:25 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 874 Status: RO G'day all, I've come across a snag in my wibble program, and I just can't seen to work out why it buggers up. What I want it to do, is to get a specific line (say line 100 on the display), and move it to the right by say 15 pixels, then move it back to the left by 15 pixels. However, it doesn't seem to be that easy. It seems to move the line a bit to the right, then it starts to stuff the display, by moving lines below this line (100). If anyone has any ideas, I'd be happy to upload the source to them (only currently about 20-30 lines). Any help appreciated. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 11 02:42:22 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA00256 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 02:42:10 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA21970 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:42:04 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403110042.AA21970@access1.digex.net> Subject: News from Simon To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:42:03 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4408 Status: RO Here is what Simon says about samples messed up on accelerated machines: Samples do tend to stuff up, also on 040 machines, I am not sure what to do about this, has anyone got good code that handles the double interupt bug in audio hardware a nice clean way? Also, the following is beta Shape Maker source code. Intuitools 2 should be on here soon: -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 11 15:30:45 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10906 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:29:22 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA15109 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 11 Mar 1994 08:29:11 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403111329.AA15109@access1.digex.net> Subject: Other news from Simon To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 08:29:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 370 Status: RO I understand that there may be a Blitz Lite for the UK market. Anyone else here about this? Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 11 23:51:42 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA00980 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 23:50:44 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA20747 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:50:41 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403112150.AA20747@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Other news from Simon To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:50:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199403112058.WAA23284@klaava.Helsinki.FI> from "Mikko Makela" at Mar 11, 94 10:58:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 331 Status: RO >What is Blitz Lite ? Probably the same as Easy AMOS. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Sat Mar 12 22:42:37 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA02459 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 1994 22:41:13 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA04660 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sat, 12 Mar 1994 15:41:10 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403122041.AA04660@access3.digex.net> Subject: A new library for Blitz To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 447 Status: RO I downloaded a user-made library from the USA BBS. I will post it to Aminet. It is called Elmorelib.lha Hey, why is an AMOS fanatic like me helping you guys?!/!/! ;) Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Sun Mar 13 14:30:46 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA19503 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 1994 14:29:51 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA24429 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 13 Mar 1994 07:29:49 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403131229.AA24429@access3.digex.net> Subject: elmorelib To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 07:29:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 319 Status: RO elmorelib.lha is on Aminet under dev/misc Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 01:02:16 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA00937 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 01:01:13 +0200 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA10551 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 09:00:37 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9403132300.1068@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: .q and .w To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 09:00:39 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 729 Status: RO I've got a question concerning the WORD (.w) and QUICK (.q) primitives. In the User Guide, it says quicks are 2 bytes long and have an accuracy of 1/65536. Isn't 2 bytes a bit small to hold +/- 32768 and 1/65536 data? (shouldn't it be 4 bytes?) Also it says quicks are fast, but relative to what? Just floats or words and long words as well? Is it better off for me to use words instead of quicks when I don't need fractional accuracy or just leave the default to quicks for speed? Thanks.. Son Le o-------------- ---o | Son H. Le - internet address:s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au - no comment | o--- ------------o From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 15:02:21 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09905 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:01:21 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA09312 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 08:01:12 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403141301.AA09312@access3.digex.net> Subject: FIle list request To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 08:01:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 792 Status: RO I was wondering if anyone has a list of what files they have installed with Blitz? I mean, there isn't really an Install program/method, so did everyone just drag the drawers over to their HD? I put the Libraries drawers in one directory and the Main disk (Blitz2:) in another. Did everyone do the same? Do you ever get an OUT OF MEMORY error when you do RELOAD LIBS? Anyone been able to get LibManager to work or LibTool or whatever it is called? Anyone have a complete list of Libs and what number they are? Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 15:53:17 1994 Received: from dummy1.dur.ac.uk (dummy1.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.240]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA13308 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:53:12 +0200 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by dummy1.dur.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <08055-0@dummy1.dur.ac.uk>; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:52:02 +0000 Received: from altair (altair.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:51:59 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:52:53 +0000 (GMT) From: D P Marshall Subject: Re: FIle list request To: M D Cox Cc: blitzlist In-Reply-To: <199403141301.AA09312@access3.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1271 Status: RO On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, M D Cox wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has a list of what files they have installed with > Blitz? I mean, there isn't really an Install program/method, so did everyone > just drag the drawers over to their HD? I put the Libraries drawers in one > directory and the Main disk (Blitz2:) in another. Did everyone do the same? > Do you ever get an OUT OF MEMORY error when you do RELOAD LIBS? Anyone been > able to get LibManager to work or LibTool or whatever it is called? > > Anyone have a complete list of Libs and what number they are? I was just wondering the same thing. I DO get an out of memory when I try reload libs and haven't a clue about the libtools. I think Blitz is crying out for an update, there are SO many bugs that are just SO irritating. Dave Marshall +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | __ | | _/// Dave Marshall Talk requests to d3r6yw@deneb.dur.ac.uk not email | | \X/ D.P.Marshall@durham.ac.uk "Ask me anything - Fonts a specialty" | | | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 17:41:28 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA19539 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:41:11 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA16570 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 10:41:08 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403141541.AA16570@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: GadTools To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 10:41:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <825.763658493@mailhost.aber.ac.uk> from "Nigel Hughes" at Mar 14, 94 03:21:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 864 Status: RO Oh, it's you... ;) > I am writing a GOOD shape grabber, what features do you want? Which > do you already like? Come on guys let's discuss. Would you like > me to mail the current version so as that you can comment on it? I want a shape grabber that lets me either cut the shapes manually or can do it automatically using settings that I set. Such as, 2 pixel blank border around each shape which separates them, 16x16 or 16x32 or 32x32 or 32x16, etc. And then I'd like to be able to flip them around within the file so that a certain type of shape (like walls) are all together, etc. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 14 18:56:53 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA23494 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:56:05 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA27103 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 11:52:20 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403141652.AA27103@access1.digex.net> Subject: :) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 11:52:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <29203.9403141551@pyr.swan.ac.uk> from "m h kift" at Mar 14, 94 05:51:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1146 Status: RO >American git writes (sorry Mike, just a joke 8^) What is a git anyway??!! >Some good ideas there Mike, unusual for you 8^). Anyway, I'd like to Hey hey hey!!! :) >5. Ability to both graphically/andor manually define hotspots for all > shapes. Very important, they must not be just centered. Most definitely! Perhaps some certain codes should be constants. For instance, if you set the hot spot to $000 that means in the middle. $110 means upper left corner, etc. Let the program figure out exactly where those spots are in terms of the shape. In BB2, there are only 3 needed files, right? Deflibs, Blitz, and Ted, right? All the others are NOT needed. Let me know if I am wrong because I am going to delete a bunch of stuff I have yet to touch in those directories. They are on floppy, but I'd rather not have to drag them out. You know how us gits are. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 02:56:48 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA10493 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 02:56:33 +0200 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.3) with ESMTP id KAA03781 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:56:57 +1000 Received: from localhost (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA13464 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:56:11 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199403150056.KAA13464@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Tinting using shapes To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:56:10 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 924 Status: RO G'day all, I was wondering if it was possible to use a shape to be used in tinting another object behind it, similar to the effect found in DPaint III. For instance, I would have a square shape with a pattern on it, which I would want to tint the upper half of it (reduce the brightness of the colour) using another shape to do so (If shapes were used various patterns can be used as a stencil in the tint). Its hard to explain, but hopefully someone will understand what I'm asking. Thanks in advance, Dave PS. If you aren't sure what i mean, but think you know of a solution, I can post a small pic showing what I want. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 14:51:06 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA19967 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:50:50 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA04066 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:50:19 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403151250.AA04066@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: your mail To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:50:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199403150312.NAA09480@mdw052.cc.monash.edu.au> from "Mr M Sawicki" at Mar 15, 94 01:12:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 571 Status: RO >No I never had any momory problems when reloading libs, but then again I havee >6meg so that's probably the reason for it. I also have 6MB. 4MB FAST, 2MB CHIP. Still get it, though. Also, anyone know how to make resident files? I select the CREATE RESIDENT option, but it does NOTHING!!! Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 15:19:44 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA22045 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:19:12 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA04740 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 08:18:58 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403151318.AA04740@access3.digex.net> Subject: gtlib vs bbgtlib To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 08:18:58 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 517 Status: RO On BUM 5 in the Devmaterial.lzh archive there is a gtlib source and a bbgtlib.lib library. Does anyone know if they are the same thing? Also, in the gtlib source it asks for the resident file 'blitzoffs'. Is that on the disks somewhere? Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 15 21:57:34 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA10676 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:57:11 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA24630 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:57:00 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403151957.AA24630@access3.digex.net> Subject: dev/blitz on Aminet To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:56:59 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 588 Status: RO I have sent a request to the Aminet admin to add a blitz directory unde dev but have not heard from him yet. You might also want to send him email. His address is: umueller@wuarchive.wustl.edu Mike And, yes, I have read the manuals, and mine seem to be different than what is now being sold (at least in the UK)!! -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 16 02:42:09 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA20103 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 02:42:01 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA28241 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:41:57 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403160041.AA28241@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: New directory request (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:41:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1303 Status: RO This is from the Aminet admin: What do you think? Forwarded message: >From umueller@wuarchive.wustl.edu Tue Mar 15 19:15:06 1994 >From: Urban Mueller >Message-Id: <199403160014.SAA04697@wuarchive.wustl.edu> >Subject: Re: New directory request >To: mcox@access.digex.net (M D Cox) >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:14:53 -0600 (CST) >In-Reply-To: <199403141235.AA08912@access3.digex.net> from "M D Cox" at Mar 14, 94 07:35:25 am >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] >Content-Type: text >Content-Length: 486 > >>Since Blitz BASIC 2 is gaining in popularity, there has been a mailing list >>created for it, similar to the AMOS one. However, there really isn't a place >>on Aminet for Blitz files, except dev/misc. Is there anyway we can make a new >>one in dev called blitz? > Nope. We're getting more tight with creating new directories, so there must be a more general scope for any new dirs. Thus I *could* be talked into dev/basic/, maybe adding dev/amos to it later. Will that do? -Urban Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From msaw1@mdw021.cc.monash.edu.au Wed Mar 16 06:23:45 1994 Received: from VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.23]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA01254 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:23:42 +0200 Received: from mdw021.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #6430) id <01HA1K3YTBV491WU44@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:23:06 +1000 Received: from localhost (msaw1@localhost) by mdw021.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id OAA15225; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:22:54 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:18:17 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Viewmode option in Screen command To: Basic II Blitz Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO Does anyone out there know what viewmode option does and what values does it take? Blitz manual (which is horrible) only mentions that long version of screen command provides more control but it does't explain what each option does. I was able to find most of the required info scattered across the manual but nothing about viewmode. Also, does anyone know how to kill mouse pointer in amiga mode without changing its sprite to blank? From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 02:09:43 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA00653 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 02:09:14 +0200 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA24574 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 10:08:56 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9403170008.20065@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Blitz News (fwd) To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 10:08:53 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1858 Status: RO Picked this up from the Blitz echo.. Note the date. Fingers crossed X. > From: Simon Armstrong Date: 03-13-94 01:26 > To: All Msg#: 390 > Subj.: blitznews > Area: BLITZ BASIC > > Blitz News > ---------- > ; > Acid on slow trip for BUM6, however there have been some major > bug fixes going on in the last two weeks... there was also the > problem of finding then moving then warming the new residence > of Acid Software... > ; > new address is 12 York Street, Parnell, Auckland. phone and fax > is still +649 358 1658, all mail sent to StKevins will still > be collected as well as Day Street however the Jesmond Tce > is out... > ; > Good news is Mr Sibly is back and has been seen editting the > blitz2 compiler source code inbetween spouts of Guardian > development, read all about it in latest One, Edge and Action > mags... > ; > 3D shape editor is nearly complete thanks to Paul Andrews, along > with lashings of blood in the form of Zombies 2, 3D library > still in need of some attention but warm fuzzies close now > ; > entries in AF Blitz2 competetion will be judged next week, from > the stuff I have seen we are in for a major year of top notch > PD, budget and commercial releases from Blitz programmers... > ; > now where did I put that linker.... > ; > anyway, the new year is indeed here, my apologies for the crazy > delays. we're home now and we're working hard on all the RIGHT > things so give us two more weeks and the next bum will be in > yer face. > > --- Star-Net v1.02a > * Origin: Phone The Bridge Baud 64-7-8430086 AMIGA! (41:647/640.0) o-------------- ---o | Son H. Le - internet address:s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au - no comment | o--- ------------o From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 14:53:56 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA12565 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 14:53:14 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA02625 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 07:52:58 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403171252.AA02625@access1.digex.net> Subject: ShapeZ To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 07:52:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 527 Status: RO Make sure everyone gets this program! Really works on my machine and doesn't even guru, despite its British origins! ;) Also, you can't ignore me because I am knocking on your door and I'm coming in! (Dennis Leary(sp?)) Mike "No! *I'M* bloody right!" -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Thu Mar 17 18:23:02 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00333 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:22:33 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA15743 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 17 Mar 1994 11:22:11 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403171622.AA15743@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: Aminet.. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 11:22:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20450.9403171528@cch.coventry.ac.uk> from "Sandman" at Mar 17, 94 05:28:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 546 Status: RO >If we get it, sorry, WHEN we get it, will this list keep going? >I hope so 'cos I'll miss you guys :( sniff Oh, yes, it will. THe directory on Aminet will just be a place to put files for us all to get. But, if I keep cheering up Nigel, I don't know what I'll do!! Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Sat Mar 19 19:42:32 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25151 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:41:10 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA12922 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sat, 19 Mar 1994 12:40:58 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403191740.AA12922@access1.digex.net> Subject: New ELMORELIB To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 12:40:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 466 Status: RO If someone wants the latest, email me and I will email it to you. it has smaller code, so it is faster. Also, a new Intuitools is supposed to be on BUM 6, whenever it comes out, that is! Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Sun Mar 20 13:35:05 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17068 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:34:46 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA24713 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 06:34:41 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403201134.AA24713@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: New ELMORELIB To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 06:34:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9403200656.1448@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> from "Son Huu Le" at Mar 20, 94 04:56:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 622 Status: RO >Yes, please! Okay, I will mail it to you. >I am a subscriber to the BUM.. but I'm not sure as to the status of the BUM >and disk? Are they PD? (If so, why did I have to subscribe?) They are NOT PD. Unless the file on the disk says it is PD, it is not. The files I have uploaded are not on BUM disks, but have been placed in PD by the maker. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 21 02:08:29 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA02095 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:07:34 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA21067 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 20 Mar 1994 19:07:29 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403210007.AA21067@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: New ELMORELIB To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 19:07:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199403211814.AA24648@zeus> from "tom duncan" at Mar 21, 94 08:06:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 644 Status: RO > Could you mail the latest version of ElmoreLib to me. I have the Will do! >library manager from simon if you do not have it by the way. Bum6 is Is that the same as the one from BUM5? The one that just creates a new DEFLIBS? If not, please send me a copy. Thanks! >within a week or so. (from the horses mouth) I hope so! I think it has been a YEAR since BUM 5! Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 22 14:31:40 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA21941 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:30:18 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA19129 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 07:30:09 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403221230.AA19129@access3.digex.net> Subject: Addendum to BB2 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 07:30:09 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 794 Status: RO Anyone receive the BB2 addendum? It had a few things: Talks about the 'display' lib as being beta and how to code a display using the display lib. Do not use the Gadtools Palette gadget under WB2.xx. It is being fixed for WB2.xx, but works fine under WB 3.xx. ASLScreenRequest is a WB3.xx only function A new Intuitools is being made and will take advantage of Gadtools. Some users of the 1230XA 50/50/4 seem to be having problems while others are not. :) And a little sort demo that shows how to sort lists. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 22 19:06:07 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA10914 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:06:00 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA10582 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:05:50 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403221705.AA10582@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Addendum to BB2 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:05:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <18380.9403221245@pyr.swan.ac.uk> from "m h kift" at Mar 22, 94 12:45:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 356 Status: RO >Whats the BB2 addendum???? A piece of paper. It was in my mailbox yesterday. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 22 19:10:03 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA11074 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 19:09:55 +0200 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA10850 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:09:51 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403221709.AA10850@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: Elmorelib To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:09:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20918.9403221626@cch.coventry.ac.uk> from "Sandman" at Mar 22, 94 06:26:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 821 Status: RO >Would one of you luverly people mail it too me? Sure, why not, even though you are in the UK... ;) >PS. While I'm at it.. Y'know the options menu where you can view the .res files >etc, well, I can't do it anymore. I try typing in the amigalib.res and it loads >it as resident but I can't view it! Maybe I'm missing something here (a brain?!) Ummm, I don't think you CAN view the .res files. Just look at the .bb2 file that made the .res file. The Libmacs were on BUM 5 and I downloaded a new Libnum file. I don't have Blitzoffs, though. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Fri Mar 25 19:07:11 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA18102 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 19:06:45 +0200 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA07854 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 12:06:26 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403251706.AA07854@access3.digex.net> Subject: Re: Vwait To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 12:06:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Jurgen Valks" at Mar 25, 94 11:53:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 445 Status: RO >Is it possible to wait on a specified line? Why refreshing the whole >screen while using just 200 or less lines... Check out the ELMORE libs. I can email it to you. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Mon Mar 28 19:05:36 1994 Received: from pereiii.uji.es (pereiii.uji.es [150.128.1.2]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA03493 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:05:12 +0300 Message-Id: <199403281605.TAA03493@kantti.helsinki.fi> Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA27019; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:07:44 +0200 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06146; Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:09:49 +0200 From: Ramon Macia Subject: Re: More commands. To: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham) (Phillip Eastham) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:09:49 METDST Cc: blitz-list@cc.helsinki.fi In-Reply-To: <9403262216.AA007h8@kumear.apana.org.au>; from "Phillip Eastham" at Mar 26, 94 5:16 pm Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: RO > MOD(x,y) > DIV(x,y) > > Function: Return value from numeric function x MOD y or x DIV y ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think this is implemented (at least in my version) NPrint 9 MOD 2 ;prints 1 Ramon Macia (iiso29@rossegat.uji.es) From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 29 14:23:46 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA00380 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 14:23:19 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA28750 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:48:48 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9403290948.13496@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Rounding off.. To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:48:38 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3162 Status: RO I just got hold of BUM1 and in it I found a very interesting article on rounding that might be of interest to some of you. [Quote from BUM1] BUGGY BOOBOOS ------------- Being the first issue of Blitz User it would be silly if we were already reporting bugs in this section. However there has been a few problems with evaluation inside square brackets... SQUARING UP.. If an evaluation such as: jim\son[5-bob\numkids]="BILLY" gives spurious results try: num=5-bob\numkids jim\son[num]="BILLY" We are currently doing more tests on such evaluations. ROUNDING OFF.. A few mathematical issues will now be addressed here. This discussion is based around the complex issue of rounding numbers not about some 'bug' in the Blitz2 quick maths library or the Amiga's Fast Floating Point library (which we use for all floating point calculations). The only reason this discussion is in the Buggy Booboos section is because this section needs fleshing out a bit... Anyway try the following... DEFTYPE .f While Joyb(0)=0 NPrint a a=a+.1 Wend So where do all the wierd numbers come from? Try it in another BASIC. Now try changing the deftype back to quick (that's .q). Same problem again. This is because computers are not decimal (base 10) but binary (base 2) and have big trouble accurately defining a number such as .1, this is of course the same as 1/10. To see the binary equivalent of .1 try the following: a.q=.1 NPrint Bin$(Peek.l(&a)) MouseWait This prints in binary the contents of the memory location where the variable a is kept. As you can see .1 is a very complex number in base 2. What's more when using quicks (fixed point maths) multiply increases the rounding error dramatically: a.q=.1 Print 500*a MouseWait You can now see why rounding errors are such big deal in computer science. The above example remains accurate with floating point because of the nature of floating point (amount of error is absorbed by the change in exponent) but rounding still increases with sufficient initial error. Confused? Let's just say that if you want to do an accounting type package in Blitz2 don't use fixed point (quick) types. Fast floating point is also probably not a good idea as when you hit the $260,000 anything less than a dollar will disappear. So what should you do? Wait for a Double Precision maths library to be released? Don't be silly, just use long integers and treat a dollar as 100 cents. Ha, not only do you get to account for numbers up to 20 million but you don't loose a cent of accurary either. Don't forget to physically insert the decimal point two digits from the right when you print figures. Also divide by whole numbers rather than multiplying by decimal points whenever possible. As if somebody is going to write huge financial programs in Blitz2 anyway... [End of quote] Phew! Hope that answers some of your questions. Keep blitzing... Son Le o-------------- ---o | Son H. Le - internet address:s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au - no comment | o--- ------------o From blitz-list-request Tue Mar 29 20:59:16 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA00114 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 20:57:44 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA25936 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 12:57:33 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403291757.AA25936@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: ELMORELIB 1 of 1 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 12:57:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <26422.9403291327@cch.coventry.ac.uk> from "Sandman" at Mar 29, 94 02:27:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 611 Status: RO >Have you read how to include new libraries in the docs? I haven't seen it anywhere. >I've corrupted my deflibs several times because of this! In your Blitzlibs: dir, create a directory called USERLIBS and place any non-ACID libraries in here. Then, run the MAKEDEFLIBS program. It works for me so let me know if you have problems. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 30 04:09:51 1994 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA02963 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:09:02 +0300 Message-Id: <199403300109.EAA02963@kantti.helsinki.fi> Via: uk.ac.northumbria; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 02:07:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 2:07 BST From: Keith Suddick To: BLITZ-LIST Subject: Re: Array init Status: RO Ramon Macia asked : > How can I initialize an array with some determinated values? > I do it using DATA and READ, but i'd like to know if it is possible > to do it directly like in C (myarray=[1,2,...]) I needed to do this recently and the only way I found was to use a combination of pointers and newtypes... NEWTYPE .kludge myarray.b[100] END NEWTYPE : DEFTYPE .kludge *ptr : *ptr=&myarray_data : myarray_data Dc.b 1,2,3,4....99,100 You can then access the data using *ptr\myarray[n] (The code is from memory if it doesn't work, let me know and I'll find the exact method I used.) KTS From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 30 12:56:19 1994 Received: from peladon.rmit.EDU.AU (peladon.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA16784 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:55:12 +0300 Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU by peladon.rmit.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA06219 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:54:58 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU From: s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Son Huu Le) Message-Id: <9403300954.11974@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: Small texture mapping To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz List) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:54:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2108 Status: RO Here's a small program to for all to browse, implementing a very slow version of realtime texture mapping. I don't think it'll be of use to anyone, but hey, what the heck. Btw: post me any speed improvements. Thanks. Son Le o-------------- ---o | Son H. Le - internet address:s924723@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au - no comment | o--- ------------o From blitz-list-request Wed Mar 30 15:26:43 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA27797 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 15:26:11 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA15038 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 07:26:02 -0500 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199403301226.AA15038@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: ELMORELIB 1 of 1 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 07:26:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <27165.9403300906@cch.coventry.ac.uk> from "Sandman" at Mar 30, 94 10:06:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1165 Status: RO >I have done that, but couldn't find such instructions in the manual. One time >I ran makedeflibs and my deflibs increased to well over 500K. Hmmmm...If there are any .info or .bb2 files in the SYSTEM, AMIGALIBS, BASIC, or USERLIBS directories, delete them. >I had some extra libraries, which I assume are already in my deflibs, and quite >a few .obj files. Are .obj files to be included in deflibs? Surely there is a >way to find out which libraries (and version) have already been included.. I don't think there is. LibManager is supposed to do that, but it isn't stable on AGA machines. I will list my BlitzLibs: dir and post it. >Thanks for your help, No problem. >PS. How come you're into Amos and not slagging of bb2? :) That seems to be >fashionable these days. Well, I never was a fashion statement. Besides, it's those Brits like Martin and Kift that are slaggers!!! ;) Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Sun Apr 3 15:39:08 1994 Received: from access1.digex.net (access1.digex.net [164.109.10.3]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA16804 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:38:20 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA04308 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Sun, 3 Apr 1994 08:38:09 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199404031238.AA04308@access1.digex.net> Subject: Directory listing of BlitzLibs: To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 08:38:08 -0400 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 9176 Status: RO Directory "BlitzLibs:" on Sunday 03-Apr-94 seriallib 9021 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:50 libnums.bb.bak 2850 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:46 blitzoffs.res 11080 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:44:28 system Dir ----rwed 14-Mar-94 18:51:13 userlibs Dir ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:47:18 fdconv.bb2 4353 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 14:07:08 makedeflibs.bb2 1031 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 14:07:40 libmacs.bb 4939 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:46 gtlib 19010 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:44 libmacs.res 8464 ----rwed 14-Mar-94 19:11:29 libmacs.res.info 383 ----rwed 14-Mar-94 19:11:18 seriallib.xtra 1222 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:50 libnums.bb.xtra 1202 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:52:05 obj.bak 296 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:48 amigalibs.res 121396 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:45:08 basic Dir ----rwed 14-Mar-94 18:51:23 makedeflibs.bb2.xtra 1190 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 14:07:40 gtlib.xtra 1222 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:44 libmacs.bb.xtra 1202 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:46 libnums.bb 2986 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:52:04 obj.info 396 ----rwed 02-Sep-92 13:55:48 amigalibs Dir ----rwed 14-Mar-94 18:51:11 18 files - 4 directories - 411 blocks used Directory "BlitzLibs:system" on Sunday 03-Apr-94 ffplib.obj 236 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 strcomplib.obj 280 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 clrlib.obj 164 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 errtraplib.obj 608 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 rundebuglib.obj 632 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 maxlenlib.obj 248 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 varslib.obj 224 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 lmullib.obj 292 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 runerrlib.obj 2388 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 floatquicklib.obj 296 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 memlib.obj 780 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 staticslib.obj 208 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 chipbaselib.obj 152 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 maxslib.obj 308 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 wbstartuplib.obj 644 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 exitslib.obj 216 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 debuglib.obj 15908 ----rwed 03-Oct-93 12:21:34 strings2lib.obj 296 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 arrayslib.obj 448 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 strings1lib.obj 268 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 modlib.obj 320 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 switchlib.obj 1028 ----rwed 10-Aug-93 16:23:20 ldivlib.obj 272 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 datalib.obj 184 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 intlib.obj 1512 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 25 files - 93 blocks used Directory "BlitzLibs:userlibs" on Sunday 03-Apr-94 HARDWARE.ElmoreLib 1952 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:47:18 SYS.ElmoreLib 2448 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:47:18 FUNCTIONS.Elmorelib 1196 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:47:19 MATH.ElmoreLib 1488 ----rwed 19-Mar-94 12:47:18 4 files - 19 blocks used Directory "BlitzLibs:basic" on Sunday 03-Apr-94 utillib.obj 964 ----rwed 07-Sep-93 18:10:48 bblitlib.obj 2144 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 gadgetslib.obj 5220 ----rwed 03-Oct-93 23:10:08 windowslib.obj 10744 ----rwed 13-Oct-93 21:44:08 bitmaplib.obj 1420 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 blitzcoplib.obj 4600 ----rwed 10-Aug-93 16:21:52 trackerlib.obj 4012 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 environlib.obj 1100 ----rwed 29-Aug-93 15:47:52 medlib.obj 10660 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 audiolib.obj 2688 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 bbgtlib.obj 6168 ----rwed 21-Oct-93 18:58:00 spriteslib.obj 2400 ----rwed 06-Oct-93 11:15:52 brexxlib.obj 3396 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 freqlib.obj 16260 ----rwed 30-Aug-93 17:57:14 sis2dlib.obj 8948 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 memacclib.obj 468 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 sortlib.obj 1052 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 shapetrixlib.obj 3264 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 stencillib.obj 1480 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 datelib.obj 1752 ----rwed 30-Aug-93 17:59:24 vallib.obj 1592 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:16 seriallib.obj 3844 ----rwed 07-Sep-93 18:18:20 blitlib.obj 1748 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 banklib.obj 788 ----rwed 30-Aug-93 17:59:34 qblitlib.obj 1972 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 blitzkeyslib.obj 1264 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 editlib.obj 836 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 fileiolib.obj 3400 ----rwed 27-Aug-93 16:22:08 mathtranslib.obj 1052 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 rawkeylib.obj 1028 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 palettelib.obj 4468 ----rwed 01-Oct-93 20:42:00 fontlib.obj 1968 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 iffmakelib.obj 8860 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 screenslib.obj 4076 ----rwed 01-Oct-93 20:06:34 cliargslib.obj 320 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 menuslib.obj 3380 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 printlib.obj 2932 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 fadelib.obj 1368 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 gameiolib.obj 600 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 linklistlib.obj 2064 ----rwed 06-Oct-93 07:29:26 bbasllib.obj 1924 ----rwed 30-Aug-93 17:57:46 displaylib.obj 4332 ----rwed 15-Oct-93 15:00:48 intuifontlib.obj 732 ----rwed 28-Aug-93 13:05:22 speaklib.obj 5520 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 ilbmifflib.obj 1036 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 animlib.obj 1692 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 mouselib.obj 1236 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 shapeslib.obj 3340 ----rwed 14-Aug-93 16:36:50 inputoutputlib.obj 796 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 arexxlib.obj 3496 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 scrolllib.obj 2076 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 stringfunclib.obj 2876 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 collslib.obj 1692 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 iffiolib.obj 852 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:14 54 files - 408 blocks used Directory "BlitzLibs:amigalibs" on Sunday 03-Apr-94 ciab.resource1 424 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 disk.resource1 436 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 amigaguide.library1 1060 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 asl.library1 488 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 iffparse.library1 2228 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 colorwheel.gadget1 320 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 dos.library1 5824 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 mathieeedoubbas.library1 760 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 mathieeedoubtrans.library1 904 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 dos.library2 1312 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 mathtrans.library1 804 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 keymap.library1 428 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 mathieeesingbas.library1 740 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 icon.library1 884 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 expansion.library1 1336 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 locale.library1 1500 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 commodities.library1 1336 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 exec.library1 5428 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 mathffp.library1 684 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 ciaa.resource1 424 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 datatypes.library1 972 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 rexxsyslib.library1 700 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 battmem.resource1 404 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 xprzmodem.library1 512 ----rwed 31-Aug-93 23:51:16 intuition.library1 6868 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 misc.resource1 304 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 graphics.library1 6532 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 bullet.library1 456 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 graphics.library2 1908 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 layers.library1 1836 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 workbench.library1 640 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 card.resource1 976 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 utility.library1 2136 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 battclock.resource1 324 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 gadtools.library1 1168 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 diskfont.library1 500 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:10 mathieeesingtrans.library1 872 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 potgo.resource1 328 ----rwed 06-Jul-93 18:08:12 38 files - 160 blocks used TOTAL: 139 files - 4 directories - 1091 blocks used From blitz-list-request Mon Apr 4 05:37:22 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA09531 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 05:36:51 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA09702 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:36:45 +1000 Received: (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id MAA26336 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:36:41 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199404040236.MAA26336@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: BUM6 etc To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:36:40 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 688 Status: RO G'day all, I was just wondering about the subscription to the Blitz User Mags, and whether you had to pay. All I got in my Blitz box was a rego card which I have sent off. There were no other details about BUM etc. I think I heard a while ago that the first User Mag was free and then you paid an annual fee after that. Any info concerning the User Mags would be greatly appreciated. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 5 15:57:31 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA29415 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:57:05 +0300 Received: from access1.digex.net by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:33:40 +0300 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA05872 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 07:32:16 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199404041132.AA05872@access1.digex.net> Subject: Re: BUM6 etc To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 07:32:16 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <199404040236.MAA26336@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> from "Dave Cole" at Apr 4, 94 12:36:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 410 Status: RO In the USA, it is $20 for a year sub. You should get BUMs 1 - 5 in new BlitzBASIC 2 packages. At least, people here (USA VA) have. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net From blitz-list-request Tue Apr 5 15:25:50 1994 Received: from funet.fi (funet.fi [130.230.1.1]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA25731 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:24:13 +0300 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au by funet.fi with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:04:06 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA17235 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:04:03 +1000 Received: (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id AAA09299 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:03:59 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199404041403.AAA09299@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: ProgressInd.bb2 - Progress Indicator for WB To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:03:58 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 643 Status: RO G'day all, I decided to write something today in BLitz as I was feeling board, and ended up writing a progress indicator program. It is written as a couple of statements, so should easily be implemented into any program. If anyone is interested, I could post it to the list, as it is only 3-4k uuencoded, else I could mail it to you direct. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 6 02:11:47 1994 Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.40]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA23618 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 02:11:28 +0300 Received: from yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU [131.170.24.42]) by goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA09536 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:11:24 +1000 Received: (s933384@localhost) by yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id JAA02522 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:11:20 +1000 From: Dave Cole Message-Id: <199404052311.JAA02522@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au> Subject: ProgInd.uue To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (Blitz) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:11:19 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4725 Status: RO G'day all, It seems that quite a few of you out there are interested in the Progress Indicator routines which I wrote the other day, so I am posting it to the list (I hope noone minds 8-)). Any comments, bug-reports etc welcome. Dave ------------------------8<----Cut Here----8<----------------------- ------------------------8<----Cut Here----8<------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole | Editor of: s933384@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | s933384@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au | The Warhammer Compendium David_Cole@guru.apana.org.au | ----------------------------------------------------------- From blitz-list-request Wed Apr 6 03:35:12 1994 Received: from VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.23]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA24748 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 03:34:53 +0300 Received: from mdw080.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #6430) id <01HAUO8MNM1S91WXIJ@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 10:34:22 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw080.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id KAA03008; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 10:34:17 +1000 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 10:31:32 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: True AGA Graphics In-reply-to: <9404041833.AA001q8@midearth.fipnet.fi> To: Jan Lindstrom Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Jan Lindstrom wrote: > Can you load 256 color pictures to BlitzBasic 2 v1.7 ? I have > included the source code of my program. This is only a example, > in real program I try to scroll that picture too. All works nice > up to 32 colors (you can load that 256 color picture ok but > you lose true colors). In AmigaFormat and other magazines I have > seen mentioned AGA support, but when it will be here ? Oh that > example program will give Sofware Failure, any reasons ? > > .Main > BitMap 0,896,512,8 > LoadBitMap 0,"pic/Bloks.pic",0 > LoadPalette 0,"pic/palette.iff",0 > BLITZ > Slice 0,44,368,283,$fff8,8,8,256,896,896 > Use Slice 0 > Show 0 > MouseWait > Free Slice 0 > Free Bitmap 0 > Free Palette 0 > AMIGA > End > > Jan Lindstrom Fipnet & Internet: janl@midearth.fipnet.fi > Karhusuontie 64 Fidonet : 2:220/550 > 02810 ESPOO FINLAND > > Ash nazg durbatuluk, ash nazg gimbatul, > ash nazg thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul - J.R.R.T >From what I've heard AGA modes are supported in AMIGA MODE ONLY! (at least for now). I might be wrong but this could be the reason for loosing colours. From blitz-list-request Fri Apr 8 18:35:33 1994 Received: from muss.cis.mcmaster.ca (muss.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.4.225]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA17151 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:33:47 +0300 Received: by muss.cis.mcmaster.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18323; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:33:43 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "C. Jennings" Subject: File existence To: Blitz List In-Reply-To: <16556.9404081312@pyr.swan.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 1488 Status: RO On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, m h kift wrote: > Can anybody tell me what is the best way of checking for the > existance of a file before attempting to load? I am fed up > of having blitz programs crash the system when a file is > requested for loading which isn't there!?!? The easiest way to do this within Blitz is probably to use the ReadFile() function. It will return a zero (false) if it fails, and since it implies input only, will fail if the file doesn't exist. Don't have the manual around, but I'm pretty sure the argument template is ReadFile(file,filename). Here is an example: If ReadFile(0,"does_it_exist.file") {file exists} Free File 0 else {file does not exist} Endif If you only want to see if it exists, you can close the file immediately; if you want to read it in if it exists, read it in (FileInput 0, etc.) and then close it. You can also use dos.library, but this method requires less work (and less knowledge of how the system works) on your part. Hope this solves your problems. Christopher +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- | Christopher Jennings | Never place your file integrity in the | u9303286@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca | hands of a talking amphibian! +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- Amiga Developer - Master of the ancient long-lost art of reading books DISCLAIMER: I write for myself, not Enchanted Blade Associates or McMaster From blitz-list-request Sun Apr 10 05:10:32 1994 Received: from VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.23]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA15005 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 05:10:19 +0300 Received: from mdw070.cc.monash.edu.au by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #6430) id <01HB0CPO0YXC91Y2PS@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:09:15 +1000 Received: (msaw1@localhost) by mdw070.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.4) id MAA19711; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:09:12 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:07:25 +1000 (EST) From: Mr M Sawicki Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: <16556.9404081312@pyr.swan.ac.uk> To: m h kift Cc: blitz-list@helsinki.fi Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, m h kift wrote: > Hello, > > Can anybody tell me what is the best way of checking for the > existance of a file before attempting to load? I am fed up > of having blitz programs crash the system when a file is > requested for loading which isn't there!?!? > > Any news on BUM6 also 8) (optimistic or what!) > > Martin You can use dos routine open to check if file exists. If I remember correctly, it returns 0 if unsuccessful, otherwise its a file handle. For more info on the routine refer to hardwre manuals. Maciek. From blitz-list-request Thu Apr 14 18:21:59 1994 Received: from access3.digex.net (access3.digex.net [164.109.10.6]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.8/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA11307 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:21:41 +0300 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA01306 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for blitz-list@helsinki.fi); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:21:37 -0400 From: M D Cox Message-Id: <199404141521.AA01306@access3.digex.net> Subject: BUM 6 To: blitz-list@helsinki.fi (blitzlist) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:21:36 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <223.9404141234@pyr.swan.ac.uk> from "m h kift" at Apr 14, 94 03:34:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 373 Status: RO I haven't received it yet. Haven't been home except to sleep, though, so I may have missed it. Mike -- Michael Cox Work: mcox@access.digex.net A1200/120 w/1230XA 50/50/4 = SPEED! Play: aj639@Cleveland.FreeNet.EDU For info on the AMOS Mailing List, contact me! For AMOS Pro news, finger mcox@access.digex.net