From crash!sheffield.ac.uk!J.W.Godley Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:48:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pec@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:48:57 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1mU-00002UC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:47 PST Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQxzc-0003BXC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 04:44 PST Received: from gorgon.shef.ac.uk by pp2.shef.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 31 Jan 1994 12:43:07 +0000 Received: From LADYBOWER/GORGON_WORKQ by gorgon.shef.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940131124249.1600; 31 Jan 94 12:43:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: 31 Jan 94 12:42:37 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "J.W.Godley" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Music module convertors wanted! Does anyone out there have any sort of program on either the Amiga or St so that I can transfer ST music mods to the Amiga? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks John Godley From crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:07 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pei@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:07 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1nH-0000TCC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:48 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQyI3-0003CKC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 05:03 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA11901; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:02:48 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA05997; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:02:08 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:02:03 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "Robert Dabell" at Jan 28, 94 3:00 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: E 3.0 ? Welll, I'm no more new here :) > > > I'm new to this list and have heard constant talk of E version 3.0. Do any of > > you have the specifications for it? What changes etc? When it will be > > available? > > I'm new too :-) > > 3.0, is 2.5 even available yet, as far as I know that was to be the first > commercial release, and I've heard nothing more of that... > Ok, as far as I know, there is no more version 2.5, but a FUTURE 3.0 which is not yet released. I can say that, because Wouter dos send me the doc 3.0 for the french translation... Or he forget it ! About the french translation, I've now to tranlate, something about 50 Ko of datas. Next week, I'll send the docs to Wouter... Bye ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pen@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:15 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1nR-0000WMC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:48 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQyjG-0003CwC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 05:31 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA12200; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:32:14 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA06100; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:31:35 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:31:32 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <199401290311.WAA00380@freenet.carleton.ca>; from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Jan 28, 94 10:11 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: C2E Hi, I see for some weeks, that the program C2E may convert C code to E code. Is it right ? Wher can I find it... I saw in Aminet dev/e in berlin and uni-kl but nothing new... I can't have acce to the US... I takes so much time, that I'm always disconnected.. Thanx -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pes@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:24 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1ng-0000HTC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:48 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQyTk-0003CUC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 05:15 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA12009; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:16:13 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA06032; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:15:34 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:15:30 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "Olivier Anh" at Jan 28, 94 4:04 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: IntuiSup Hi all Well, Barry, I try what you said with the gadgetdata form the IntuiSup.library. Hey, that works fine ! My program looks very nice now ! and most of all, I discover that this library, under WB 1.3 allows you to access to the all capabilities of the system 2.0... (locale, 3D look, all 2.0 gadgets) If someone want to know more about This library, mail me or in the ML. I'll send a doc, made by myself.... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pf7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:49:41 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1oH-00008WC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:49 PST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQzbP-0003EhC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 06:27 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13964; Mon, 31 Jan 94 09:30:39 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940131090355.768; 31 Jan 94 09:28:11 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 31 Jan 94 09:03:47 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: fonts >> How do you print in other fonts in an intuition window??? I got this to work thanks to somebody's source posted on here the other day. I'll answer these questions anyway for other people who might be having trouble. >What function are you using to 'print'? TextF >Did you open the window with OpenW() or with OpenWindowTagList() ? >If the second choice then set stdrast to the window's rport. I used OpenW() The problem was my textfont structure it seems. Originally I had something like (Don't take this literally, it is just out of my head) myfont := ['times.font',18,0,1] or something similar. This didn't work for some reason. By unscrupulously copying that other guy's source :^) I changed to something along the lines of myfont.name := 'times.font' myfont.ysize := 18 etc. etc. that's what made it work. I've been working on a series of small useless programs such as a starfield, a bouncing line, and the piece de resistance, the Magic 8 Ball toy simulator :^), I will post them sometime in the near future, for beginners to look at. Have fun Alan From crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:50:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pgk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:50:24 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1pH-00003oC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:50 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQzpt-0003FJC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 06:42 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA12505; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 15:41:56 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA06209; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 15:41:17 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 15:41:14 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "Rob Nottage" at Jan 29, 94 1:53 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: LIST VIEW Hi all, > > ~8> > I guess LISTVIEW's aren't my thing ... :) > > ~8> > > ~8> I hate them too. We're stuck with them :-) > > > > Once you get by the skimpy instructions, listviews are > > awesomely simple. Don't give up. If you're still having > > trouble by Friday, mail me privately and I'll post an > > example this weekend. yes, I want this example. I'm try to have a list view with the IntuiSup.library But I don't know how to pass the list of text... Or does anybody else have an example ? Thanx. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From crash!grove.iup.edu!CHASMC Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:50:43 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ph1@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:50:43 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1pr-00004VC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:50 PST Received: from acorn.grove.iup.edu by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQzy9-0003FaC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 06:51 PST Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF #2467 ) id <01H8BT8IFRC08Y62YA@grove.iup.edu>; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 09:51:04 EST Date: 31 Jan 1994 09:51:04 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8BT8IG0Z68Y62YA@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-to: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com X-VMS-To: NETMAIL%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: Charles McCreary To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Requesters (Requestors?) Hello All! This question is not really E specific and it probably is an Amiga programmer FAQ but since there are so many bright people out there, I thought this would be a great place to start...:-) My confusion comes from reading the Libraries manual (3rd ed.) as concerns requesters. It seems if you want to open one, you have three possibilities: 1. Fill out a requester structure/record/object-list. Good for pre-version 36 operating system. I do not want to do this because you cannot use gadtools gadgets in such a requester. 2. Use the Easy request or auto-request function. This is good for simple yes-no type requesters which have perhaps a couple of lines of explanation but are really quite limited. 3. Here is where I'm not too sure what's going on: open a sub-window which might be more along the lines of what I want to do. This sub-window could have many gadgets in it, use gadtools and allow the user to move it around the screen. The manual makes reference to the main window's IDCMP port as if somehow the two windows can share the same port. How is that done? I have also seen programs such as excellence! the word-processor where requesters which open do not block input to the main window but rather function as if they were separate programs (threads?) Are these requesters actually mini-windows with their own IDCMP port? How could you handle something like that in your program? I know that an add-on library like Reqtools would do the job quite well but before going that route, I'd like to try the system-provided routines. Any help is of course greatly appreciated. :-) --Charles McCreary From crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:51:34 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pi3@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:51:34 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1wL-0000Q4C; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:57 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pR1Xf-0003KqC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:32 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id LAA12735 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 11:31:55 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDEA16; Mon, 31 Jan 94 11:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.99660.1351.0CEDEA16@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:50:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: XPK library Has anybody successfully used the XPK libraries with E? If so, I'd *really* like to see an example on how to use it. I've just converted the .i file to an .m, so I shouldn't need modules. From crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:51:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pi8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:51:41 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR1wM-0000PtC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:57 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pR1Xv-0003KsC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:32 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id LAA12738 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 11:32:07 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDEA17; Mon, 31 Jan 94 11:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.99661.1351.0CEDEA17@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: iffparse.library I've just started using the iffparse.library. and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? From crash!prism.gatech.edu!gt1567b Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:52:31 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pja@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:52:31 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR27P-0000MdC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 09:08 PST Received: from hydra.gatech.edu by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQqCB-0002AbC; Sun, 30 Jan 94 20:25 PST Received: by hydra.gatech.edu (5.67a/3.1) id AA15610; Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:15:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:15:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199401310415.AA15610@prism.gatech.edu> From: gt1567b@prism.gatech.edu (MAY,JEFFERY CARTER) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Mailing List Please at de to the Amiga E mailing list. Thanks! AA AA i Jeffery C. May ONLY A A A A President, Amiga Atlanta, Inc. Users' Group AMIGA AAAA AAAA i Senior EE, Georgia Institute of Technology MAKES IT A A A A i POSSIBLE AAA AAA AAA AAA i Internet: gt1567b@prism.gatech.edu From crash!mail.swip.net!z92!n901!f607!p3!Roger_Martensson%BadNet Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pk4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:10 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR2Fe-0000cMC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 09:17 PST Received: from mail.swip.net by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQunp-00037iC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 01:20 PST Received: from localhost by mail.swip.net (8.6.4/2.01) id KAA05928; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 10:20:14 +0100 Received: by piraya.bad.se (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:41:16 GMT for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Received: by f1.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (0.0.1 BA Datasystem/3C) id AA01652; Mon, 31 Jan 94 08:41:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 12:33:36 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <940128115749.26203484@v1.ph.ox.ac.uk> Fidonet-Flags: private Reply-To: Roger_Martensson@p3.nola.bbs.bad.se (Roger Martensson) From: Roger_Martensson@p3.nola.bbs.bad.se (Roger Martensson) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From crash!hot.gun.de!mak Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:51 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pl1@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:51 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR2Hu-0000VhC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 09:19 PST Received: from dhiurzm31.rz.uni-hildesheim.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pQwia-00039xC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 03:23 PST Received: from uni-hildesheim.de by dhiurzm31.rz.uni-hildesheim.de with SMTP (PP) id <15437-0@dhiurzm31.rz.uni-hildesheim.de>; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 12:16:21 +0100 Received: from baghira.UUCP by uni-hildesheim.de (4.1/SMI-4.1/az/18-Jan-94) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 12:16:08 +0100 Received: by baghira.han.de (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 05:59 MET Received: by ldb.han.de (UUCPfZ V5.09 U002) with ZConnect; 31 Jan 94 02:24:43 +0100 Date: 30 Jan 94 00:00:00 +0100 Organization: MaK's private pointsystem Return-Receipt-To: mak@hot.gun.de Message-Id: X-Mailer: MicroDot 1.6 [REGISTERED 000026] X-Gateway: ZCONNECT UL ldb.han.de [UUCPfZ V5.09 U002] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: mak@hot.gun.de To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Date&Time Hello People! Has someone a Proc that converts Secs from 1.1.1978 to some date and time vars? Thanks, Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Z-Netz: MAK@HOT.gun.de PhönixNet: MAK@OLDIE2 MagicNet: MAK@HIS - - MAK@Blanker.zer SevenNet: MAK@OLDIE2 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wer auf dem Boden liegen kann, ohne sich festzuhalten, ist noch lange nicht blau! (Marc Olden) From crash!edtng.Kenosha.WI.US!Kenny_Anderson Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:56:00 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1po5@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:56:00 PST Received: from cs.uwp.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR4ii-0000QzC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 11:55 PST Received: from edtng.Kenosha.WI.US by cs.uwp.edu with UUCP id AA01550 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for bkhouse.cts.com!amigae); Mon, 31 Jan 1994 13:31:38 -0600 Received: by edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00k6u; Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:18 CST Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:18 CST Message-Id: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> From: Kenny_Anderson@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Kenny Anderson) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Listviews That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 Cheers! Kenny _____ _________________ ----- // /__// _____ // \ Kenny Anderson a.k.a. Ken D/LSD // / \\____ \/ // \ Kenny_Anderson@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US \\ \ \ \\ \ \\ \ IRC: KenD Mono: ken_d \\_______/_________/________/ Amiga; why compromise? From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:24:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pr9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:24:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRmOq-0001O6C; Wed, 2 Feb 94 13:34 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRmKk-0000MPC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 10:29 PST Received: from amukta.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <17547-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 18:29:27 +0000 Received: by amukta.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA09647; Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:29:21 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:29:21 GMT Message-Id: <9402021829.AA09647@amukta.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Random numbers randomizer Is there a way of 'randomizing' the output of the standard random number generator in E. If there is, what is it? Thanks in advance Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!freenet.buffalo.edu!ac812 Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:25:34 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1psx@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:25:34 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRp9h-0001qQC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 16:30 EST Received: from freenet.buffalo.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRoP6-00007DC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 12:42 PST Received: from localhost (ac812@localhost) by freenet.buffalo.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA14863; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:42:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:42:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199402022042.PAA14863@freenet.buffalo.edu> Reply-To: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu From: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu (Matthew Hornyak) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: iffparse.library > >I've just started using the iffparse.library. >and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. >ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? > That error is a IFFERR_READ, which is a stream read error. Maybe you could try it on another file. -- ---------------->-Matthew Hornyak-ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu-<----------------- Please support the Bill Clinton mind fund. |Super Bowl 25, 26, 27 and 28 Because a mind is a terrible thing not to have.|GO BILLS in Super Bowl XXVIII From donews!crash!acca.nmsu.edu!tosca Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:26:16 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ptw@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:26:16 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRrYW-0001wiC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:04 EST Received: from NMSU.Edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRr80-00008lC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 15:37 PST Received: from acca.nmsu.edu (kazak.NMSU.Edu) by NMSU.Edu (4.1/NMSU-1.18) id AA26908; Wed, 2 Feb 94 16:36:56 MST Received: by acca.nmsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16688; Wed, 2 Feb 94 16:04:39 MST Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:04:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Tosca To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!prism.gatech.edu!gt1567b Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:26:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pug@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 3 Feb 94 10:26:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRrZN-0002SdC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:05 EST Received: from hydra.gatech.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRrOP-0000TRC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 15:53 PST Received: by hydra.gatech.edu (5.67a/3.1) id AA21081; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 18:53:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 18:53:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199402022353.AA21081@prism.gatech.edu> From: gt1567b@prism.gatech.edu (MAY,JEFFERY CARTER) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Problem child program I am waiting to be added to the mailing list, but I have a problem that is driving me up the wall. Included here is a program fragment I've been working on, which has tons of Enforcer hits, and I can't figure out why. Also, it seems that AZ becomes very unstable when Enforcer is running, causing lots of hits. If it helps: My system: Amiga 2000, 33 MHz Zeus 040 accel w/ 12 Megs 32 bit RAM, Quantum LP52S hd, and Syquest 44. I run 2.04 WB/KS. If you have any clue about the cause, please mail me back. I like the E language, but this simple example is driving me nuts! AA AA i Jeffery C. May ONLY A A A A President, Amiga Atlanta, Inc. 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Kraft) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: ADMIN: AmigaE list delays I'm sure that some of you have noticed a break in the flow of list mail from AmigaE over the last few days. Our feed system changed their setup over the weekend, and in the process broke our up-til-now very reliable connection. We have finally resolved this problem, and mail will once again be flowing freely beginning in the evening of Thursday, Feb. 3, 1994. If, after a couple of days, you feel that mail you sent has not appeared on the list, please resend it. It is possible, though not likely, that some mail was lost while we wrestled with software configurations. Sorry for any inconvenience these delays may have caused. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!fwi.uva.nl!oortmers Thu, 3 Feb 94 17:10:07 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pva@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 3 Feb 94 17:10:07 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRs5r-0001NdC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:38 EST Received: from mail.fwi.uva.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRs0q-00003SC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 16:33 PST Received: from gene.fwi.uva.nl by mail.fwi.uva.nl with SMTP (5.65c/5.1) id AA12467; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 01:33:37 +0100 Received: by gene.fwi.uva.nl id AA05618; Thu Feb 3 01:33:35 1994 Message-Id: <199402030033.AA05618@gene.fwi.uva.nl> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 01:33:35 +0100 Return-Path: X-Organisation: Faculty of Mathematics & Computer Science University of Amsterdam Plantage Muidergracht 24 NL-1018 TV Amsterdam The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 525 5200 X-Telex: 16460 facwn nl X-Fax: +31 20 525 5101 From: oortmers@fwi.uva.nl (Wouter van Oortmerssen (Alfa_Inf92)) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Various [note: these are various responses combined to one mail] -> WRT, the multiple-value assignments, how is (or might) this capability -> different from the already available ability to have multiple assignments -> "chained" in one statement?, e.g. : -> -> a:=b:=c:=func() This seems to confuse many people. Until now, it was usual for functions in programming languages to return just one return value. E now allows to return more than one return value! (which is very useful, when you think of it). The a,b,c:= notation allows to assign those values. -> My question is: Isn't a list always terminated with a NIL automatically by -> Amiga E ? The reason this question arose was the fact that a list is the -> counterpart of a string, and a string IS zero terminated. no, it isn't. therefore taglist should always end in ,0] or ,TAG_DONE] -> I seem to have found a bit of a bug in E. When trying to track -> down memory loss in Dirj, through a whole lot of debug code, I managed to If you think you are sure it's a compiler problem, send me the code, and I'll fix it. I must warn you however, that >90% of the bug-reports I have received where problems in the program, not in EC. [...] -> Ok, name and date are allocated with String and New respectively. -> The freeup routine uses Dispose on both of them, ie Dispose(file.name) ; which is illegal. strings should be deallocated with DisposeLink() _only_. -> just accusing E of my faults. If you like Wouter, I will send you the code -> and you can check it yourself, but since this is Shareware in progress, -> the only other people getting it are the beta testers. I can be trusted :-) Wouter ____ Wouter van Oortmerssen, Wouter@alf.let.uva.nl / __/ "Nobody with a good car needs to be justified" / __/ -Ministry, Jesus build my hotrod /___/ E mailing list: amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pw6@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRtv7-0001w9C; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:35 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRtmg-0000TbC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:27 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15296; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:27:25 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA14485; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:25:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:25:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199402030225.VAA14485@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Amiga E bug! (I'm pretty sure.) > >Odd, because I also use New() and String() for similar fields, and I also >use Dispose() to free up the memory. It works ok here. I get every byte back >that my program uses. I can't explain what the problem is unfortunately. Hmm, strange.. Yeah, I haven't touched said program myself in quite a few days, having just gotten ahold of Dune II and 1869. heh. > >Just going off track a bit here, have you found a suitable and fast way of >drag selecting multiple files in the window? That's where I'm having the >most problems. > Drag selecting, yah, I've been thinking of that myself, and the only solution I have is this: There is no intuition way to do it. You can try IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE reports, and get it to REPORTMOUSE, and this works, but only when the mouse is moving. I want mine to start scrolling the list (and selecting as it goes), if you hold down the mouse button and drag it off the window. I can see no system friendly way to do this, so I might have to add it to Dirj's input handler. >Also, it's a great excersize doing a project like this. I learned how to >make appwindows and appicons. My project lets you drop any disk or drawer >icon on the appicon and it will automatically load that path into the >dirutil. I also have made it so that doubleclicking the appicon will >iconify/uniconify the window (this project doesn't open it's own screen) > >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: > > >DEVICENAME: VOLUMENAME: xx% full >DEVICE2: VOLUME2: yy% full >C: Assign >CLIPS: Assign > >etc... >But... no matter which way I do it, I either end up with devices I don't >want >(SER: AUX: PRT: PAR: etc) or I have no devices at all, just volumes and >assigns... the second option would be OK if I knew how to get the device >name from the volume name.. e.g. given I have a volumename of >AmigaLibDisk930, how do I find from that the device it is in? >e.g. DF3: Ok, this is a bit tricky, but is quite doable. My details may be a bit off, because I don't have the RKMs with me, but here's the gist. First, to avoid having devices you don't like, use the Dos (I believe) call, IsFileSystem(). To get the volume of the currently selected dir, somewhere in the directory structure there's a pointer to a DiskInfo structure (or something similar). This contains the volume node name and the size. So this way, if you have an assign of c:, and it was actually dh0:c, you could track down that c: was actually on dh0:, and dh0: has x bytes left. I'll do a little write up on this when I get home and post it next time I get on this stupid Mac to check my mail. Oh, for a remote account. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pwd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRtvE-0001qQC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:36 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRtsl-00003LC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:33 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15646; Wed, 2 Feb 94 21:33:41 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA19318; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:33:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 21:33:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199402030233.VAA19318@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: EFormat >It is absolutely fine, it has never gurued on me and I'm running an >obsolete KS1.2 with a ZKicked 2.04 on top of it. Works absolutely fine, >nice work.. > Hey thanks.. I find it quite handy sometimes myself. > >Am> and is running Magic WB. 2. Try it from a bare cli. If it still does it, >Am> without any of those programs, (Magic menus comes immediately to mind as > >I would suggest the user to try to set a stack size a bit larger. Mine is >12000 bytes and it's sufficient for everything (excluding Frontier..;) >If that doesn't help, then there are some higher forces working on the >poor chap's computer and I'd advice him to make a quick browse through >the yellow pages on the letter E (as in exorcist..) ;) Dontcha just hate it when your computer is possessed? But seriously, I don't believe stack is relevant to E programs.. It does say in the docs that they control their own stack... -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pwj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:34:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRuN5-0001vtC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRuKw-00005sC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17283; Wed, 2 Feb 94 22:02:50 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA07822; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:02:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:02:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199402030302.WAA07822@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: C2E >I see for some weeks, that the program C2E may convert C code to E code. >Is it right ? Wher can I find it... I saw in Aminet dev/e in berlin and uni-kl >but nothing new... I can't have acce to the US... I takes so much time, that >I'm always disconnected.. > Well, I'm writing it, and I'm not even close to done. (Of course, this Dune II and 1869 thing hasn't helped.) Expect it on aminet in a MINIMUM of 4 months. H2E might be up sooner, say within a month. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:35:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1pws@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:35:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRvLd-0001v2C; Wed, 2 Feb 94 23:07 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRv1g-00008KC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:46 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA19448; Wed, 2 Feb 94 22:47:01 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA06702; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:46:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:46:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199402030346.WAA06702@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: iffparse.library > >I've just started using the iffparse.library. >and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. >ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? > I have found that IFFParse doesn't work as advertised on my 1200. I copied the example instruction for instruction from the RKM, but, still doesn't work. But, the most common 'error' that iffparse returns is the end of file 'error.' This might be what you're thinking. Use Showmodule on iffparse.m to see what -5 stands for. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!johnm Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:37:44 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q03@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:37:44 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pS6Zw-0001wvC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 11:06 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pS6Gc-0000XpC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 07:46 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pS6ET-0001KwC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 15:44 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:44:41 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> from "Kenny Anderson" at Jan 31, 94 10:53:18 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 597 From: "The Mighty Git" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Listviews Kenny Anderson chucked aplhabetty-spagetti in the form of: :> :> That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an :> example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded :> blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just :> fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... I'd like a copy please :) The____________________________ Mighty/ _________/__/ _______/ / / _________/ / / /__/ / / / \_____________/__/__/ From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:38:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q0u@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:38:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pS9mR-0001OlC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 14:31 EST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pS9JP-00007ZC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 11:01 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <20830-2@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:01:43 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <19339-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:01:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:02:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: Amiga E mailing list Subject: STOP PRESS!!! Amiga E has a double page feature in Amiga Shopper this month, March issue, pages 62/63. Here are the contents of the "Checkout" box at the end of the article. ----8<----8<----8<---- FEATURES Everything but OOP, FPU and 020+ processor support, but that's all coming in the next version. 9/10 DOCUMENTATION A tutorial, reference manual and loads of really good, useful examples. However, the tutorial is a bit short, and the reference manual is a bit too terse in places. 7/10 EASE OF USE A lot of the features are geared towards readability and ease of use. However, the error reports from syntax checking could be more helpful and at present you need to use an assembly level debugger to debug your code. 8/10 VALUE FOR MONEY A complete, powerful language for the price of a floppy disk. Excellent value. 10/10 OVERALL RATING The bad points are completely outweighed by the good points. 10/10 ----8<----8<----8<---- The reviewer is called Jason Hulance (are you on this mailing list, Jason? :-) Hope I didn't infringe any copyrights :-o Dave +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:39:51 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q2p@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:39:51 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSDd7-0001OiC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 18:38 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSDZy-0000JnC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 15:35 PST Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:35:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940203183516.204136b3@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Help with screens Hi All, Just a quick question. How do you get windows and cons to open up on a screen that is opened with OpenS(). Haven't had a chance to really look at the ref docs yet, maybe the answer is there, but if anybody could show me how I would be grateful. Thanks in advance Jessie thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:40:03 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q2u@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:40:03 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSDz8-0001OnC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 19:01 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSDv7-0000ajC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 15:57 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA27308; Thu, 3 Feb 94 18:57:29 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA24368; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:56:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:56:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199402032356.SAA24368@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Disk info (as requested) Rob Nottage asked for help on this, so here's the writeup on how to get volume names, sizes, etc... (Modified for beginners as well, as I know you aren't, Rob.) Ok, first of all, to figure out whether a device is useable in a dir utility, use the function IsFileSystem(name). So IF IsFileSystem('PAR:') ... ENDIF The other thing you need to know about is the InfoData structure, and the Info() command. InfoData is the following and must be longword aligned. (Which I'm sure is probably taken care of in E, if you allocate it in your DEF.) OBJECT InfoData numsofterrors:LONG unitnumber:LONG diskstate:LONG numblocks:LONG /* So, these three are how you */ numblocksused:LONG /* Compute size remaining, of course. */ bytesperblock:LONG disktype:LONG volumenode:LONG /*<- This is a BCPL pointer to a node */ inuse:LONG /* So, to use it as an E ptr, you must */ ENDOBJECT /* ptr:=Shl(ptr,2) (I believe.) */ To get this structure, use the Dos call Info(lock,infodata). Where lock is a BCPL pointer to a lock (obtained from Open or Lock), and infodata is a pointer to an allocated InfoData structure. This way you can use any open file to obtain the volume information. That should pretty much do it. If example code is needed, I'll be happy to post it. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!mail.csh.rit.edu!jerry Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:41:45 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q4r@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:41:45 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSKBE-0001PDC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:38 EST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSJwC-0000rJC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 22:22 PST Received: from nick.csh.rit.edu by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pSJ2I-0002wgC; Thu, 3 Feb 94 21:24 PST Received: from localhost (jerry@localhost) by nick.csh.rit.edu (8.6.3/8.6.3) id XAA15653 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199402040440.XAA15653@nick.csh.rit.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:40:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) From: jerry@mail.csh.rit.edu (Prince of Llamas) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Accessing the joystick port? Hiya all! anyone done any system calls to access the joystick port? I want to try some stuff with the joystick data... (not a game) -Jerr -- __ __ "There's nothing like seeing \ oo / sdl7253@cs.rit.edu /// nature on a screaming `--' __/// crotch rocket." _/|_ jerry@mail.csh.rit.edu \\// -Crow T. Robot From donews!crash!marlin.ssnet.com!c-hardy Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:42:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q59@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:42:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSL4x-0002o8C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 02:35 EST Received: from marlin.ssnet.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSKqS-000074C; Thu, 3 Feb 94 23:20 PST Received: by marlin.ssnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29534; Fri, 4 Feb 94 02:20:05 EST Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 02:20:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Curtice Hardy To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!freenet.buffalo.edu!ac812 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:42:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q5o@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:42:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR6kp-0001wDC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:05 EST Received: from freenet.buffalo.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR6SN-0000LjC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 13:46 PST Received: from localhost (ac812@localhost) by freenet.buffalo.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA24334; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 16:46:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199401312146.QAA24334@freenet.buffalo.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 16:39:33 -0500 Reply-To: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu From: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu (Matthew Hornyak) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Pointing to gadget I am writing a program where I wanted my string gadget to be automatically activated. So, I used the ActivateGadget() routine. I can't get ActivateGadget() to activate my string gadget. I created the interface to my program using GadToolsBox and SrcGen. Here's what I'm doing: PROC openrequeststringwindow() DEF g:PTR TO gadget IF (g:=CreateContext({requeststringglist}))=NIL THEN RETURN NOCONTEXT IF (g:=CreateGadgetA(STRING_KIND,g, [offx+65,offy+41,326,14,'_String',tattr,0,1,visual,0]:newgadget, [GTST_MAXCHARS,256, GT_UNDERSCORE,"_", NIL]))=NIL THEN RETURN NOGADGET IF (g:=CreateGadgetA(BUTTON_KIND,g, [offx+9,offy+61,94,14,'_Ok',tattr,1,16,visual,0]:newgadget, [GT_UNDERSCORE,"_", NIL]))=NIL THEN RETURN NOGADGET IF (g:=CreateGadgetA(BUTTON_KIND,g, [offx+296,offy+61,94,14,'_Cancel',tattr,2,16,visual,0]:newgadget, [GT_UNDERSCORE,"_", NIL]))=NIL THEN RETURN NOGADGET IF (g:=CreateGadgetA(TEXT_KIND,g, [offx+9,offy+13,382,25,'',tattr,3,0,visual,0]:newgadget, [GTTX_TEXT,bodytxt, GTTX_COPYTEXT,1, GTTX_BORDER,1, NIL]))=NIL THEN RETURN NOGADGET [...] ActivateGadget(g.gadgetid.0,requeststringwnd,NIL) I can't get the program to compile when I have this in. My string gadget is gadgetid 0. Should I use this kind of DEF instead? DEF pointer PTR TO gadget, gadgetid -- ---------------->-Matthew Hornyak-ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu-<----------------- Please support the Bill Clinton mind fund. |Super Bowl 25, 26, 27 and 28 Because a mind is a terrible thing not to have.|GO BILLS in Super Bowl XXVIII From donews!crash!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!3NDS3 Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:43:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q66@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:43:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR7dg-0001tLC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 18:02 EST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR7aD-00000xC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:59 PST Received: from QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7074; Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:56:54 EST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA (NJE origin 3NDS3@QUCDN) by QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4691; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:56:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:52:43 EST In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:39:09 -0500 from From: 3NDS3 <3NDS3@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: New Project! C2E! On Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:39:09 -0500 said: >But, I would like to make this a list project if at all possible. >Any example code, algorithims for problems would be greatly appreciated. >Once I get the .h converter working 100%, I'll put a preliminary version in dev/e. (Mind you, I myself would be totally happy with something that converted .h files to the equivalent in .m files. I'm thinking about doing some DLG programming using E, but the thought of somehow making a .m file that EC will understand has stopped me so far. ;-) Is there any way right now to type in an equivalent OBJECT to the C structure and then convert that ASCII file to a .m module? Otherwise it becomes a bit of a pain to use E, since I learn best through hacking with sample code, and all the sample code for this stuff is in C. Dave From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:44:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q7e@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:44:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR9zK-0001owC; Mon, 31 Jan 94 20:33 EST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pR9c2-0000e2C; Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:09 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4-1.13) with ESMTP id RAA15145 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:09:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.13) id RAA25123 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:09:50 -0800 Lines: 34 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:09:49 PST Message-ID: <9401311709.3.23539@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Amiga E bug! (I'm pretty sure.) >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: > > >DEVICENAME: VOLUMENAME: xx% full >DEVICE2: VOLUME2: yy% full >C: Assign >CLIPS: Assign > >etc... >But... no matter which way I do it, I either end up with devices I don't >want >(SER: AUX: PRT: PAR: etc) or I have no devices at all, just volumes and >assigns... the second option would be OK if I knew how to get the device >name from the volume name.. e.g. given I have a volumename of >AmigaLibDisk930, how do I find from that the device it is in? >e.g. DF3: > >At the moment I'm just showing ALL devices/volumes and assigns. Will cause >some >problems if someone decided to try and view the contents of PAR: :-) Here's a solution: Get ALL Devices, and then check all VOLUMES ONLY. A Device which has a filesystems IS GOING TO HAVE a VOLUME NAME. Just do a little cross-checking and baddabing, baddaboom :-) /*******************************************************\ | ** . . ___ . * ** | | ** | |. /| | | * Internet: WiZkId@cup.portal.com ** | | ** | || / |/|.-| * ** | | ** |/\||/__|\||_| * A Visual Image/GammaSoft ** | | ** * ** | |/*******************************************************\| --------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!comlab.oxford.ac.uk!ecs.oxford.ac.uk!m88jrh Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:46:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q99@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:46:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRGzg-0002TNC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:02 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRGeL-0000NZC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:39 PST Received: from ecs.oxford.ac.uk (ecs.ecs) by comlab.oxford.ac.uk id AA27958; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:39:08 GMT Received: from ecs.ox.ac.uk (booth8.ecs) by ecs.oxford.ac.uk (4.1/ecs.1) id AA29647; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:42:08 GMT Received: by ecs.ox.ac.uk (4.1/ecs2.0) id AA03081; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:40:39 GMT Via: uk.ac.oxford.comlab; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:39:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:40:39 GMT Message-Id: <9402010840.AA03081@booth8.ecs.ox.ac.uk> From: m88jrh@ecs.oxford.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Amiga Shopper article. Dear All, At long last my article about Amiga E has been published in Amiga Shopper (a UK serious magazine). If anyone's interested it's in Issue 35 (March 1994) on pages 62-63. I haven't had time to look at it in detail, yet, but it seems like all the bad puns have been left in! The references to 2.5 show the age of the article... --- _____ _ / / | / / / /__/ /__/ Jason R. Hulance / /\ / / |_/ . / \ . / / . From donews!crash!archiduc.irit.fr!vintenat Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:46:33 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1q9f@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:46:33 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRHTZ-0001nyC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:32 EST Received: from archiduc.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRHKD-0000XpC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 01:23 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archiduc.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA05246 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 10:22:21 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 10:22:21 GMT Message-Id: <199402011022.KAA05246@archiduc.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Mac2E for 1.3 users Hi everybody, Mac2E v3.0 is finished, and I'm now working on the docs. It is far more better (faster above all) then the 2.0 one. But I will tell you its new features when I'll put it on aminet (next week I hope). For the moment, my problem is that Mac2E still needs Workbench 2.0+ to run. So, I ask myself if someone is interested by a 1.3 version. If it is, let me know ! It's useless to do a program if nobody (even you !) uses it :-) I point out that the Mac2E v3.0 is FASSSSSSSSSSTER than the Mac2E v2.0. So I think that any Amiga user (even with a 68000 inside) can afford the extra time needed to use it. To be more precise, in the worst cases, Mac2E v3.0 doubles the compilation time. I've already think about a 1.3 version. My problem is to emulate the ReadArgs() function. To do this, I thought to use the arp.library. So I got it from aminet yesterday. But when I extrated the docs, I found out that the aminet version is only for 2.0 Kickstart, ARGGGGGGGGGG :-( But I'm sure that the versions above 39 are for 1.3 kickstart. So, is any of you knows where I can find v39 arp.library ? Perhaps, somebody owns it ! Third solution : is any of you successed in making a ReadArgs() emulation for 1.3 ? Thanks for your answers, Lionel From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:47:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qaa@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:47:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRJpy-0002TLC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:04 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRJb0-0000QrC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 03:48 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pRJYz-0001LPC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 11:46:36 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Olivier Anh" at Jan 31, 94 03:41:14 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 183 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: LIST VIEW > I'm try to have a list view with the IntuiSup.library ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What exactly is this, and where can I get it? Thanks, Robert From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qcf@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRN5b-0001NIC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:32 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRMfV-0000T1C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:05 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA26148 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 09:04:47 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25990; Tue, 1 Feb 94 09:01:04 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00227; Tue, 1 Feb 94 09:02:42 CST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 09:02:42 CST Message-Id: <9402011502.AA00227@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: LIST VIEW ~8> yes, I want this example. I'm try to have a list view with the IntuiSup.library ~8> But I don't know how to pass the list of text... ~8> ~8> Or does anybody else have an example ? By popular demand, or so it seems... Gadtools ListView Example. This isn't intuisup, Olivier, but I would imagine you could apply the same concepts. UUencoded since it's _just_ over 200 lines. Enjoy. -- Barry begin 664 gtlv.lha M'QXM;&@U+04+ #0'P 2)4^'" !!F=T;'8N96M)504 4/V!!P!1O +# @< M5.A33"T @><[KNC4<>-\Y\ ME;9-AU7?&[]G_,;;8:;LG22\KW*I555+O!?+5?-:K\)[Z;W#M9&VVYR_ M1Y?]_OHI&,P9J#;#G.;4=\\+D9]!NS<9K);O,83>VO6L4AI+A^V T6N#N=?U M&'T:. 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end From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:33 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qcp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:33 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRN5l-0001NfC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:32 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRMi3-00010FC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:08 PST Received: from badger.westminster.ac.uk (badger) (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:22:40 GMT Received: by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:21:25 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:19:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:21:25 GMT Message-Id: <28449.199402011421@badger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: I`m new here! Hello, I`ve just joined this mailing list and I`m a little out of touch with everything that`s going on. I got the postings on Aminet for the old lists, but since then... :) Anyway, I`m wondering about a couple of things: 1: E has some darn useful functions missing... Has anyone managed to use GT_SetGadgetAttrs in gadtools? Cuz it AIN`T THERE! And ParsePatternNoCase() in DOS? SAME AGAIN! (bitch when writing a file finder... like I WAS... :) Not to mention DoMethod() in amiga.lib... I tried disassembling this but I don`t know too much about how the C stubs work, so I got lost... :( Anyway, any help in getting around these problems would be appreciated... 2: I have had some joy with MUI, I got a basic window with some text up and running, but nothing else... no DoMethod()! Gah! Anyway, if anyone wants any help with gadtools or similar stuff please mail me direct, as I have quite a bit of expereince with such things. And I managed to get a font-sensitive new-look BlackOnWhite(tm) menu-ed Scalable-MXbutton window running... WITHOUT using GadToolsBox! Any use to anyone? Finally, has anyone got any tips for reading tooltypes? My efforts crash the system, but I don`t have the source at hand :( And this month`s Amiga Shopper has a 2-page spread on E! Plus the address for this mailing list... Prepared to be swamped by requests asking how to access the CLI to compile E code! :) "What is ED?" ... "Hello World" in E... UWP From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:49 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qcy@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:49:49 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRN5t-0001NZC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:32 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRN18-0000wdC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:27 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15897; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:30:42 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940201085727.2656; 01 Feb 94 10:28:14 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 08:57:18 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: fonts >The problem was my textfont structure it seems. >Originally I had something like (Don't take this literally, it is just >out of my head) >myfont := ['times.font',18,0,1] >or something similar. This didn't work for some reason. >By unscrupulously copying that other guy's source :^) I changed to >something along the lines of >myfont.name := 'times.font' >myfont.ysize := 18 >etc. etc. >that's what made it work. Well i played around with it some more and discovered that my original way was ok, if I would just put ':textattr', after the closing ']' Learn something new every day... Have fun Alan From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:16 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qdn@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:16 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRO0C-0001maC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:31 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRNof-0000HtC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:19 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA26525 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 10:18:23 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29698; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:14:38 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00271; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:16:16 CST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:16:16 CST Message-Id: <9402011616.AA00271@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Requesters (Requestors?) ~8> around the screen. The manual makes reference to the main window's IDCMP ~8> port as if somehow the two windows can share the same port. How is that done? I suggest, Charles, that you take a gander at Dave Higginson's mweg.e example, which can be obtained from aminet, dev/e/AmigaE.BinArc.lha. It's a very small and easy to read demo of opening multiple windows, waiting on multiple ports, and acting on the messages coming from Intuition...exactly what you're looking for. If anyone has not seen this source, get it. NOW. It's one o' them valuable E gems, rare and indispensible. :-) -- Barry P.S. - While I got your attention, remember waaaay back, I expressed some interest about an article you wrote on E? If you still have the electronic version I'd really appreciate it if you emailed it to me. =) From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qdy@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVR-0001pPC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROFX-0000L8C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:43:39 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20625; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:10 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 10:03:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20624; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:10 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 10:03:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Listviews To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:03:46 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRLeT-0000LoC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 06:00 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!edtng.Kenosha.WI.US!Kenny_Anderson Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:56:00 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:18 CST Message-Id: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: Listviews Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: Kenny_Anderson@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Kenny Anderson) That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 Cheers! Kenny _____ _________________ ----- // /__// _____ // \ Kenny Anderson a.k.a. Ken D/LSD // / \\____ \/ // \ Kenny_Anderson@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US \\ \ \ \\ \ \\ \ IRC: KenD Mono: ken_d \\_______/_________/________/ Amiga; why compromise? From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qe3@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVU-0001oqC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROF1-0000PIC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:45:52 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20703; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:42:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 08:49:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20702; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:42:26 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 08:49:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:49:20 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRKnw-0000LYC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 05:06 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!mail.swip.net!z92!n901!f607!p3!Roger_Martensson%BadNet Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:10 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 12:33:36 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <940128115749.26203484@v1.ph.ox.ac.uk> Fidonet-Flags: private To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: Roger_Martensson@p3.nola.bbs.bad.se (Roger Martensson) X-Original-From: Roger_Martensson@p3.nola.bbs.bad.se (Roger Martensson) UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qe8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:50:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVX-0001O9C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROF6-000139C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:44:31 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20648; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:41:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 08:47:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20647; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:41:04 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 08:47:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: iffparse.library To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:47:15 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRKPl-00009yC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:41 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:51:41 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Message-ID: <1d.99661.1351.0CEDEA17@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: iffparse.library Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) I've just started using the iffparse.library. and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qed@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVZ-0001oqC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROFG-0000vMC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:46:23 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20713; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:42:50 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 08:48:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20712; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:42:50 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 08:48:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Date&Time To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:48:00 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRKvI-0000CQC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 05:13 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!hot.gun.de!mak Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:53:51 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Date: 30 Jan 94 00:00:00 +0100 Organization: MaK's private pointsystem No-Return-Receipt-To: mak@hot.gun.de Message-Id: To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: Date&Time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: mak@hot.gun.de Hello People! Has someone a Proc that converts Secs from 1.1.1978 to some date and time vars? Thanks, Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Z-Netz: MAK@HOT.gun.de PhnixNet: MAK@OLDIE2 MagicNet: MAK@HIS - - MAK@Blanker.zer SevenNet: MAK@OLDIE2 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wer auf dem Boden liegen kann, ohne sich festzuhalten, ist noch lange nicht blau! (Marc Olden) From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qei@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVb-00020HC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROFN-0000QPC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:44:26 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20645; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:59 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 08:48:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20644; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 08:48:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Mailing List To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:48:08 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRKh7-000082C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:59 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!prism.gatech.edu!gt1567b Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:52:31 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:15:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199401310415.AA15610@prism.gatech.edu> To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: Mailing List Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: gt1567b@prism.gatech.edu (MAY,JEFFERY CARTER) Please at de to the Amiga E mailing list. 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Users' Group AMIGA AAAA AAAA i Senior EE, Georgia Institute of Technology MAKES IT A A A A i POSSIBLE AAA AAA AAA AAA i Internet: gt1567b@prism.gatech.edu From donews!crash!venus.iucf.indiana.edu!iucf.indiana.edu!MAILER-DAEMON Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qen@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:51:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROVd-0001oqC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:03 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pROFR-0000SMC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 08:46 PST Received: from cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:43:47 EST Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20631; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 94 09:54:00 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Subject: Returned mail: Insufficient permission ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail: cannot append to /usr/mail/ejames mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from venus.iucf.indiana.edu by cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20630; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:40:18 -0500 Return-Path: <@venus.iucf.indiana.edu:AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com> Date: 1 Feb 94 09:54:00 EST From: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Listviews To: "ejames" Return-Path: Received: from crash.cts.com by venus.iucf.indiana.edu with SMTP ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 09:54:47 EST Received: from bkhouse.cts.com by crash.cts.com with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRLTQ-0000GqC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 05:49 PST X-Original-Envelope-From: crash!edtng.Kenosha.WI.US!Kenny_Anderson Tue, 1 Feb 94 00:56:00 PST X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 10:53:18 CST Message-Id: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> To: Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com) Subject: Listviews Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) From: Kenny_Anderson@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Kenny Anderson) That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 Cheers! Kenny _____ _________________ ----- // /__// _____ // \ Kenny Anderson a.k.a. Ken D/LSD // / \\____ \/ // \ Kenny_Anderson@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US \\ \ \ \\ \ \\ \ IRC: KenD Mono: ken_d \\_______/_________/________/ Amiga; why compromise? From donews!crash!access.digex.net!gladiatr Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:52:12 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qfc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:52:12 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRPtW-0001O6C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:32 EST Received: from access2.digex.net by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRPfa-0000J5C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:17 PST Received: by access2.digex.net id AA07392 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:17:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199402011817.AA07392@access2.digex.net> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:17:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> from "Kenny Anderson" at Jan 31, 94 10:53:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 558 From: Donald Holman To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Double mailing? I seem to be getting double mailings of some of the the postings to the list. Can I assume that his is not normal? Any help is appreciated. -Donald =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=[] Donald Holman / gladiatr@access.digex.net []=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= __ __ | | | | "Alright, m'lad-o. The party's over. I've had just about as much | |__| | of this as I'm going to take. And it's no good standing there | __ | with your big macho chest and your silly oiled nipples. Doesn't | | | | impress me one bit." |__| |__| - Arnold Rimmer From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:53:03 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qge@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:53:03 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRQoq-0001wdC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 14:31 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRQlj-00009iC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 11:28 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA27630 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:26:27 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03264; Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:22:42 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00287; Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:24:20 CST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:24:20 CST Message-Id: <9402011924.AA00287@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Listviews ~8> That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an Who you callin' OLD?! }:-) ~8> example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded ~8> blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just ~8> fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... Too late. I already squashed and posted it posted. -- Barry From donews!crash!BIX.com!sshireman Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:53:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qh5@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:53:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRRqT-0001oKC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 15:37 EST Received: from bos3a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRRll-00004PC; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:32 PST Received: from bix.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #4520) id <01H8DJYAV01C934PQX@delphi.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:31:47 EST Received: by bix.com (CoSy3.31.1.45) id <9402011527.memo.35461@BIX.com>; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:27:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 15:27:18 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <9402011527.memo.35461@BIX.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-CoSy-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com From: sshireman@BIX.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!marlin.ssnet.com!c-hardy Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:56:04 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qk8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:56:04 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRZzO-0001qQC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 00:18 EST Received: from marlin.ssnet.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRZM4-0000t3C; Tue, 1 Feb 94 20:38 PST Received: by marlin.ssnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29777; Tue, 1 Feb 94 23:37:29 EST Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:37:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Curtice Hardy To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:58:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qme@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:58:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRhIH-0002U2C; Wed, 2 Feb 94 08:06 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRh0m-00016HC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 04:48 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pRgyk-0001LNC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 12:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 12:46:46 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9401311653.AA00k6t@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> from "Kenny Anderson" at Jan 31, 94 10:53:18 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 295 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Listviews > That kind old soul Barry has finally solved my LISTVIEW blues with an > example bit of code. Rather than clog up the list with huuuuge uuencoded > blocks and double mailings, anyone who wants a copy is welcome to it. Just > fling me a mail and I'll do the rest ... Please, I'd love a copy... From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:58:54 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qnh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:58:54 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRjYX-0001wBC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 10:31 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRjBt-0000HnC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 07:08 PST Received: from rbhp75.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA25468; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:07:44 +0100 Received: by rbhp75.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA04952; Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:07:08 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 16:07:07 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: IntuiSup.library hai all, Here it is : the missing doc about IntuiSup. I write from my own experiences and with help from some of you :) It is not a real doc, but a kind of How to use' for beginners like me ! Good reading ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************************************************* IntuiSup.library IntuiSup.library The missing DOC Note : this file is *NOT* a part of the IntuiSup archive. I write it only because there are some other users who will ask them a lot of question about using this library, and may be are as I am, a beginner in programmation. There are some things that I don't know about this library. So don't ask me what does one function do. It is only a summary with some comments. the (?) means that I don't know what exactly does this function. I don't try it yet ! This file is more a 'How to use' and 'whre to find that' file than a technical one, where I can read nothing. All what you will read comes directly from my own experience. There is no Doc, except a brief description of the command. All of this can be found in the example file semed in the archive... I What is the IntuiSup.library ? It is a gadget library compatible with all Amigas system from 1.3 up to 3.0. It is written by Torsten Jürgenleit. The library can be found on Aminet sites, in the 'utils/libs' directory. II What does this library do more than the others ? Well, for 2.0+ system user, this library is only usefull in the way of how you program it in your code. For 1.3 system users, like me, it is a open door to the 2.0 system without having it ! Here are the features that IntuiSup allows : - 3D look, - all 2.0 gadgets, - locale available under 1.3 ! - and a Editor, but unfortunately, it produces C codes :( III How to link IntuiSup with Amiga E ? What about the E modules ? This is a critical point. The only way for E user to use an shared library, is to convert the pragmas and the include files into E modules. Pragmas : you can find the pragmas file called 'IntuiSup.h' Beware, there is many 'IntuiSup.h' files in the archive. Then use the Pragmas2module program to convert it. Place the resulting 'IntuiSup.m' in the EMODULES: directory. Include : There is no IntuiSup.i file in the package. The only way to do is to convert the include 'IntuiSup.h' (not the same as the Pragmas one) with a C processor into 'IntuiSup.i'. And then convert this latter file with Iconvert (which need the SAS/C Includes and A68k). Place the result in the 'EMODULES:Libraries/' directory. That's it for the modules ! Note 1 : I translated these files in E modules, but modified some constants (They are very very long : some are 25 chars long !) Note 2 : In the Include file, you will find a structure for the gadgets with a C union within. Just erase this structure, we don't use it as far as we will use E lists and the GadgetData structure. IV Is there something special in the use of IntuiSup ? Yes, it is the internal variable, which is used in fast all the fonctions. This is the only way to the library to know where it is ! This is because the IntuiSup modify all Intuition messages by adding its own. So it is not very painful to add this library in your code, because all message will be send through intuition. The only minor difference is to replace the functions GetMsg() and ReplyMsg() with IGetMsg() and IReply(). That's all ! For the lists and structures, lists must be 0-terminated. (INTUISUP_DATA_END = 0) V About the gadgets, how do we code them ? Simple, we will use lists to create our gadget. The way to do it is : DEF gadgets gadgets:=[ type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, ....... 0, 0,0,0,0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ]:gadgetdata Note that you must have at least in the 'emodules:libraries/intuisup.m' module the gadgetdata structure. The union can be deleted. This is the object equivalent to the C structure we must have : OBJECT GadgetData [ gd_Types, gd_Flags, gd_LeftEdge, gd_Width, gd_Height, gd_Text, gd_TextAttr : textattr gd_Data1, gd_Data2, gd_Data3 ] You will notice that the string gadget need a 4th Data. You can add this one in this 'onject' before compiling the module, but don't forget to add a 4th NIL data in ALL gadgets... Entries : Note that these entries are definied as constant. type : one of the ten gadgets (1..11) 1 = Button 2 = Check 3 = Mutual Exclude (mx) 4 = String 5 = Integer 6 = Slider 7 = Scroller 8 = Cycle 9 = Count 10 = ListView 11 = Palette flags : 13 flags are available 1 = gadget disabled (ghosted) 2 = no border 4 = High Comp (?) 8 = vertical orientation 16 = Hot Key 32 = No text Output 64 = Text is displayed on the left side of the gadget 128 = ----------------- ------ right ------- ---------- 512 = ----------------- above ---------- 1024 = ----------------- under ---------- 2048 = Button toggle 4096 = Button image x,y,w,h : coordinates of the gadget text : a pointer to a string or a dynamic string textattr : pointer to the TextAttributes strutures or a list datas : here are the meaning of the 3 (or 4) datas for each kind of gadgets : Button : data 1 : button state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : button image (not selected) data 3 : button image (when selected) Check : data 1 : check state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : check pad1 (?) data 3 : check pad2 (?) Mutual exclude (MX) : data 1 : # of pixel sepring 2 radio gadgets data 2 : num of the active entry data 3 : pointer to a text array or a 0-terminated list String : data 1 : length of the input data 2 : offset of the next string gadget to be activated data 3 : offset of the previous string gadget to be activated data 4 : default text that is displayed Integer : Same as String Slider : data 1 : minimum level data 2 : maximum level data 3 : current position Scroller : data 1 : # of visible entries data 2 : # of total entries data 3 : cuurent entry (the top one) Cycle : data 1 : # of pixel separing pop up cycle (?) data 2 : # of current cycle text pointer text array (?) data 3 : pointer to cycle text pointer array (?) Count : data 1 : minimum value data 2 : maximum value data 3 : current default value ListView : data 1 : # of pixel separating 2 entries data 2 : current entry (the top one) data 3 : pointer to a List structure Palette : data 1 : # of bitplanes to be displayed data 2 : first color in the palette (?) data 3 : selected color Example : DEF gadget,internalvar,txtattr,gadgetlist internamvar:=IgetRenderInfos(screen,RENDERINFOSFLAGS) txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gad:=[ 1, 0, 10, 15,120, 13,'Archiver',txtattr,0,0,0, 3, 1,530,167,120, 13,'Suffix',txtattr,0,0,['Always', 'Never', NIL], 1, 0,370, 15,120, 13,'Debug' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] : gadgetdata gadgetlist:=IcreateGadgets(internalvar,gad,0,0,NIL) Note that you can't pass this gadgetlist in the declaration of a window.. To display the gadget, you must call the IdisplayGadgets(window,gadgetlist) function. The same is to remove a list of gadget from a window, you must call the IremoveGadgets(gadgetlist) and then, if you don't want to use anymore this list, call IfreeGadgetList(gadgetlist). VI Are there other structure ? Yes : the BorderData, which allows yu to draw 3D border the TextData , which allows to pass text and text flags to some functions NOte that it is possible to make an E list of any number of Data, in the form of the GadgetData above. VII And about requesters ? Sorry, but I prefer to use the great ReqTools.library However, requester and auto resquet can be made. There is no file requester :( The structure is called 'RequesterData' : OBJECT RequestData [ rd_LeftEdge, rd_TopEdge, rd_Width, rd_Height, rd_Flags, rd_Title, rd_Texts : TextAttr rd_Borders : BorderData rd_Gadgets : GadgetData ] VIII Do you try then menus ? No, not yet. May be sooner as I'm thinking :) The structure is named 'MenuData' : OBJECT MenuData [ md_Type, md_Flags, md_Name, md_CommandKey, md_MutualExclude ] Conclusion : Well this is folks ! I hope that you will enjoy using this library. I think more particularly to 1.3 system users like me. If some one else is making a 'How to use' file; pease mail it me before end of July 94 (I'm returning to France, yes I'm French, studying in Germany !) Olivier ANH ******************************************************************************* From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:59:05 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qnm@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:59:05 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRjYx-0001oOC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 10:32 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pRjSP-0000vnC; Wed, 2 Feb 94 07:25 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA18025; Wed, 2 Feb 94 10:28:21 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940202085542.2592; 02 Feb 94 10:25:43 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 2 Feb 94 08:55:32 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: float Does anyone have some good example sources that show how to use "|" in E? The only sample program that uses it is 'ReWriteGfx' and I can't make heads or tails of its use in that program... Have fun Alan From donews!crash!comlab.oxford.ac.uk!ecs.oxford.ac.uk!m88jrh Fri, 4 Feb 94 02:14:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qnx@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 02:14:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSMtw-0001POC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 04:32 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSMQU-0000wkC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 01:02 PST Received: from ecs.oxford.ac.uk (ecs.ecs) by comlab.oxford.ac.uk id AA27912; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:00:58 GMT Received: from ecs.ox.ac.uk (booth30.ecs) by ecs.oxford.ac.uk (4.1/ecs.1) id AA27872; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:04:02 GMT Received: by ecs.ox.ac.uk (4.1/ecs2.0) id AA04900; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:02:31 GMT Via: uk.ac.oxford.comlab; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 09:01:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:02:31 GMT Message-Id: <9402040902.AA04900@booth30.ecs.ox.ac.uk> From: m88jrh@ecs.oxford.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Amiga Shopper [Sorry if this has made it once already, but the list has been playing up...] My Amiga Shopper article has made it to press! It's in Issue 35 (March 1994) on pages 62-63. There's been a small amount of editing done, but all the bad puns still seem to be there. The article was submitted about 6 months ago so it's a little out of date. In particular it refers to the forth-coming E version 2.5 (which should now be 3.0 of course). For the uninitiated: Amiga Shopper is a UK magazine which does not review any games, just the serious stuff. I think it's available (mail order) around the world (there was a recent comp.sys.amiga.review, and I think the author was Australian). I'd like to post the review here, but I've only got the unedited version and I'm not sure where I'd stand on Copyright... [It's not that good, anyway!] --- _____ _ / / | / / / /__/ /__/ Jason R. Hulance / /\ / / |_/ . / \ . / / . From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Fri, 4 Feb 94 05:41:34 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qom@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 4 Feb 94 05:41:34 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSQlu-0001OjC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 08:40 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSQlA-0000gNC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 05:39 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA09679; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:40:01 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA00292; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:39:30 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:39:29 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <199402030233.VAA19318@freenet.carleton.ca>; from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 2, 94 9:33 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Ahem... Hi all, Well I recieve the mail from our listserv Man. I notice the problem.. But, I send for 3 days a mail. I never recieve it back, but some of you mail me that they read it !!!!! Is there any segregation too :) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:02:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qor@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:02:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSR5E-0001P3C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:00 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSQmv-0000uCC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 05:41 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA09689; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:42:03 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA00301; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:41:32 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:41:31 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <199402030233.VAA19318@freenet.carleton.ca>; from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 2, 94 9:33 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: IntuiSup doc2 Hi all, well, I repost the doc I wrote about the IntuiSup.library - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IntuiSup.library IntuiSup.library The missing DOC Note : this file is *NOT* a part of the IntuiSup archive. I write it only because there are some other users who will ask them a lot of question about using this library, and may be are as I am, a beginner in programmation. There are some things that I don't know about this library. So don't ask me what does one function do. It is only a summary with some comments. the (?) means that I don't know what exactly does this function. I don't try it yet ! This file is more a 'How to use' and 'whre to find that' file than a technical one, where I can read nothing. All what you will read comes directly from my own experience. There is no Doc, except a brief description of the command. All of this can be found in the example file semed in the archive... I What is the IntuiSup.library ? It is a gadget library compatible with all Amigas system from 1.3 up to 3.0. It is written by Torsten Jürgenleit. The library can be found on Aminet sites, in the 'utils/libs' directory. II What does this library do more than the others ? Well, for 2.0+ system user, this library is only usefull in the way of how you program it in your code. For 1.3 system users, like me, it is a open door to the 2.0 system without having it ! Here are the features that IntuiSup allows : - 3D look, - all 2.0 gadgets, - locale available under 1.3 ! - and a Editor, but unfortunately, it produces C codes :( III How to link IntuiSup with Amiga E ? What about the E modules ? This is a critical point. The only way for E user to use an shared library, is to convert the pragmas and the include files into E modules. Pragmas : you can find the pragmas file called 'IntuiSup.h' Beware, there is many 'IntuiSup.h' files in the archive. Then use the Pragmas2module program to convert it. Place the resulting 'IntuiSup.m' in the EMODULES: directory. Include : There is no IntuiSup.i file in the package. The only way to do is to convert the include 'IntuiSup.h' (not the same as the Pragmas one) with a C processor into 'IntuiSup.i'. And then convert this latter file with Iconvert (which need the SAS/C Includes and A68k). Place the result in the 'EMODULES:Libraries/' directory. That's it for the modules ! Note 1 : I translated these files in E modules, but modified some constants (They are very very long : some are 25 chars long !) Note 2 : In the Include file, you will find a structure for the gadgets with a C union within. Just erase this structure, we don't use it as far as we will use E lists and the GadgetData structure. IV Is there something special in the use of IntuiSup ? Yes, it is the internal variable, which is used in fast all the fonctions. This is the only way to the library to know where it is ! This is because the IntuiSup modify all Intuition messages by adding its own. So it is not very painful to add this library in your code, because all message will be send through intuition. The only minor difference is to replace the functions GetMsg() and ReplyMsg() with IGetMsg() and IReply(). That's all ! For the lists and structures, lists must be 0-terminated. (INTUISUP_DATA_END = 0) V About the gadgets, how do we code them ? Simple, we will use lists to create our gadget. The way to do it is : DEF gadgets gadgets:=[ type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, ....... 0, 0,0,0,0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ]:gadgetdata Note that you must have at least in the 'emodules:libraries/intuisup.m' module the gadgetdata structure. The union can be deleted. This is the object equivalent to the C structure we must have : OBJECT GadgetData [ gd_Types, gd_Flags, gd_LeftEdge, gd_Width, gd_Height, gd_Text, gd_TextAttr : textattr gd_Data1, gd_Data2, gd_Data3 ] You will notice that the string gadget need a 4th Data. You can add this one in this 'onject' before compiling the module, but don't forget to add a 4th NIL data in ALL gadgets... Entries : Note that these entries are definied as constant. type : one of the ten gadgets (1..11) 1 = Button 2 = Check 3 = Mutual Exclude (mx) 4 = String 5 = Integer 6 = Slider 7 = Scroller 8 = Cycle 9 = Count 10 = ListView 11 = Palette flags : 13 flags are available 1 = gadget disabled (ghosted) 2 = no border 4 = Highlight with Complement colours 8 = vertical orientation 16 = Hot Key 32 = No text Output 64 = Text is displayed on the left side of the gadget 128 = ----------------- ------ right ------- ---------- 512 = ----------------- above ---------- 1024 = ----------------- under ---------- 2048 = Button toggle 4096 = Button image x,y,w,h : coordinates of the gadget text : a pointer to a string or a dynamic string textattr : pointer to the TextAttributes strutures or a list datas : here are the meaning of the 3 (or 4) datas for each kind of gadgets : Button : data 1 : button state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : button image (not selected) data 3 : button image (when selected) Check : data 1 : check state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : check pad1 (?) data 3 : check pad2 (?) Mutual exclude (MX) : data 1 : # of pixel sepring 2 radio gadgets data 2 : num of the active entry data 3 : pointer to a text array or a 0-terminated list String : data 1 : length of the input data 2 : offset of the next string gadget to be activated data 3 : offset of the previous string gadget to be activated data 4 : default text that is displayed Integer : Same as String Slider : data 1 : minimum level data 2 : maximum level data 3 : current position Scroller : data 1 : # of visible entries data 2 : # of total entries data 3 : cuurent entry (the top one) Cycle : data 1 : # of pixel separing pop up cycle (?) data 2 : # of current cycle text pointer text array (?) data 3 : pointer to cycle text pointer array (?) Count : data 1 : minimum value data 2 : maximum value data 3 : current default value ListView : data 1 : # of pixel separating 2 entries data 2 : current entry (the top one) data 3 : pointer to a List structure Palette : data 1 : # of bitplanes to be displayed data 2 : first color in the palette (?) data 3 : selected color Example : DEF gadget,internalvar,txtattr,gadgetlist internamvar:=IgetRenderInfos(screen,RENDERINFOSFLAGS) txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gad:=[ 1, 0, 10, 15,120, 13,'Archiver',txtattr,0,0,0, 3, 1,530,167,120, 13,'Suffix',txtattr,0,0,['Always', 'Never', NIL], 1, 0,370, 15,120, 13,'Debug' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] : gadgetdata gadgetlist:=IcreateGadgets(internalvar,gad,0,0,NIL) Note that you can't pass this gadgetlist in the declaration of a window.. To display the gadget, you must call the IdisplayGadgets(window,gadgetlist) function. The same is to remove a list of gadget from a window, you must call the IremoveGadgets(gadgetlist) and then, if you don't want to use anymore this list, call IfreeGadgetList(gadgetlist). VI Are there other structure ? Yes : the BorderData, which allows yu to draw 3D border the TextData , which allows to pass text and text flags to some functions NOte that it is possible to make an E list of any number of Data, in the form of the GadgetData above. VII And about requesters ? Sorry, but I prefer to use the great ReqTools.library However, requester and auto resquet can be made. There is no file requester :( The structure is called 'RequesterData' : OBJECT RequestData [ rd_LeftEdge, rd_TopEdge, rd_Width, rd_Height, rd_Flags, rd_Title, rd_Texts : TextAttr rd_Borders : BorderData rd_Gadgets : GadgetData ] VIII Do you try then menus ? No, not yet. May be sooner as I'm thinking :) The structure is named 'MenuData' : OBJECT MenuData [ md_Type, md_Flags, md_Name, md_CommandKey, md_MutualExclude ] Conclusion : Well this is folks ! I hope that you will enjoy using this library. I think more particularly to 1.3 system users like me. If some one else is making a 'How to use' file; pease mail it me before end of July 94 (I'm returning to France, yes I'm French, studying in Germany !) Olivier ANH -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:02:45 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qp2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:02:45 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSR5M-0001P3C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:00 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSQzO-000018C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 05:54 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA09751; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:54:25 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA00325; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:53:55 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:53:54 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <199402030233.VAA19318@freenet.carleton.ca>; from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 2, 94 9:33 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: ARRAY OF OBJECT Hi all, I use the filerequest of the ReqTools.library. Having the MULTISELECT tag set to ON. I want to save the list of the files wich is in the rtfilelist structure I try to make a object with 2 string item in it. That's work fine. But it is only for one file... (path and name). How could I make an array of this object I try to declare my array as an ARRAY OF myobject. I always have a GURU. Here is an example, I don't know if this runs (it is a 'souvenir'), but you will quickly understand, what I mean :) OBJECT myobject path : LONG, NAME : LONG ENDOBJECT DEF myarray[10] : ARRAY OF LONG PROC main() path:=String(20) name:=String(30) /* etc... */ ENDPROC Does anybody have a suggestion ? or have another way to do it. Note : I want to make with this list a list View... Thanx, bye ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:03:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qpu@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:03:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSSYj-0001OfC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 10:35 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSSKC-0000WbC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 07:20 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA12925 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 09:18:36 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07292; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:13:27 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01168; Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:15:05 CST Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 09:15:05 CST Message-Id: <9402041515.AA01168@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: LIST VIEW [RETRY: sorry, this bounced back or it would have been posted before now...] ~8> yes, I want this example. I'm try to have a list view with the IntuiSup.library ~8> But I don't know how to pass the list of text... ~8> ~8> Or does anybody else have an example ? By popular demand, or so it seems... Gadtools ListView Example. This isn't intuisup, Olivier, but I would imagine you could apply the same concepts. UUencoded since it's _just_ over 200 lines. Enjoy. -- Barry begin 664 gtlv.lha M'QXM;&@U+04+ #0'P 2)4^'" !!F=T;'8N96M)504 4/V!!P!1O +# @< M5.A33"T @><[KNC4<>-\Y\ ME;9-AU7?&[]G_,;;8:;LG22\KW*I555+O!?+5?-:K\)[Z;W#M9&VVYR_ M1Y?]_OHI&,P9J#;#G.;4=\\+D9]!NS<9K);O,83>VO6L4AI+A^V T6N#N=?U M&'T:. 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MM2KDO:3@("S":9%.%TC1D6:TB5$$BAM@;:V [4?D2)5^KP2)U^O^P'0 K6\@ MY-LV/?X[8M#FZ61RS,S:RF[$G&1,1;<^=6*SAM[V]9,;]#'+BE0++-I$!V2 M5,89"U7"X?/6J?L+Q(ODQ\26;P.E+Y59"#B/16Y)H_(',_>TCWN4_Y:/^5#[ MP:EGG-^/XM3)4"4)S_EL9V\.$VA->]=#M10_* 9+$(X0\3.\(9JN03$-!^!/ M(+"6-$,0.+Z-\+_?$3\MBJBE+C=7X0QO_0(;HH>DP#T12(];@?^@A$NW8 M. (B*!G.;\DA.P^%%1\A+1P'O@*.^#WQ5O5[QYWJCX?N.\LH7KW].#P8!M>*]O OI& MM?ZB[A6BH%S\"GDA5'B]J#SHB,:73O:/U<1=QJ[^]?+.%O*RVS;^MK?M<.+& M@3@1 0."BW[#HIUBL$T=O)%!VBI.UNQQ[@D=R((Y^^SY:E \XCA-9)0T7:\+ M^Q6JXV[LTT*3[X<\4#11W8>794KA\7U6Q?2C#S0B)K=J4V/=G/L)))O)]D7D 4^P=NR;K/)B(X@.K2\1G_,0J@3@#A end From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:04:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qro@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:04:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSVrH-0001MAC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:06 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSVOt-000089C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 10:37 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA14560 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 13:36:59 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDED12; Fri, 4 Feb 94 12:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.102305.1351.0CEDED12@synapse.org> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 12:32:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: iffparse.library -> That error is a IFFERR_READ, which is a stream read error. Maybe you -> could try it on another file. Hmm, O.k. I'll check it out. I'll post another msg with the routine that I'm using later on, so you people try it your self. Is there any special things I should be looking for when I "InitIFFasDOS"? From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:04:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qrt@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:04:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSVrP-0001MAC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:06 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSVQ9-0000HiC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 10:38 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA14581 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 13:38:18 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDED19; Fri, 4 Feb 94 13:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.102309.1351.0CEDED19@synapse.org> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 12:46:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: iffparse.library -> I have found that IFFParse doesn't work as advertised on my 1200. I -> copied the example instruction for instruction from the RKM, but, -> still doesn't work. But, the most common 'error' that iffparse -> returns is the end of file 'error.' -> This might be what you're thinking. Use Showmodule on iffparse.m to -> see what -5 stands for. (-5) is a stream read error... I wonder if the problem isn't because the iff_stream portion of the structure isn't being initialized properly in the RKM example. I'm currently doing something like this... Open (file,... PutLong (iff.stream,file) /* set up my propchunks here */ err:=ParseIFF(iff) IF err<>0 THEN boom(err) etc... As I said, I'll post the code later. From donews!crash!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!3NDS3 Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:05:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qsq@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:05:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSXmd-0001NUC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 13:09 PST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSXKR-0000G5C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 12:40 PST Received: from QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8295; Fri, 04 Feb 94 15:30:12 EST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA (NJE origin 3NDS3@QUCDN) by QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5911; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:30:07 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 04 Feb 94 15:28:14 EST From: 3NDS3 <3NDS3@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Egads.e (from dev/e in Aminet) Is it just my machine or is anyone having trouble compiling this? It keeps choking at the first DEF statement with an "unknown object identifier" error. I don't know what the problem is, certainly the code before that references all the modules properly. Barry, anyone? Dave From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:05:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qt0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:05:28 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSY7D-0001LrC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:31 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSXpQ-0000MpC; Fri, 4 Feb 94 13:12 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13408; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:12:53 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA00442; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:12:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:12:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199402042112.QAA00442@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Various The Great God Wouter spaketh onto the masses: >-> I seem to have found a bit of a bug in E. When trying to track >-> down memory loss in Dirj, through a whole lot of debug code, I managed to > >If you think you are sure it's a compiler problem, send me the code, >and I'll fix it. I must warn you however, that >90% of the bug-reports >I have received where problems in the program, not in EC. > >[...] >-> Ok, name and date are allocated with String and New respectively. >-> The freeup routine uses Dispose on both of them, ie Dispose(file.name) ; > >which is illegal. strings should be deallocated with DisposeLink() _only_. > Ok, I have tried that. But, before I waste your time with my code, I'll load the code with debug statements pointing to the error. (It's quite obvious where the memory is dissapearing when you load it with enough debug code.) >I can be trusted :-) > No doubt. (I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!) -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:41:18 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1qyk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:41:18 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeCU-0001OgC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:13 PST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSefD-0000b3C; Fri, 4 Feb 94 20:30 PST Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 23:30:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940204233031.20410310@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Strings and Numbers and Things......Oh My!! Hi It's me again, I know in the Ref docs it tells how to change a string representation of a number to a number, but can you change a string rep. of a hex number into a hex number. Also I haven't been able to find any mention of how to raise a number to a power. The reason for the questions is that in the game I'm working on, I'm breaking the map down into a 16 x 16 grid with the lines to the grid representing where the vertical and horizontal walls would be. With this scheme, I can represent all of the information for the vertical and horizontal walls with two different sets of 17 numbers. The same scheme will be used for the location of doors as well. I could use decimal instead of hex but I'm trying to keep my eventual data files as small as possible. Also being able to raise 2 to the diff powers would cut down on the code some. I don't have a lot done yet but if anyone's interested i could send them what I have so you could kinda see what I'm trying to do and maybe offer some suggestions on how to do some things better. later Jessie thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:43:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r09@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:43:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeDS-0001o1C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:14 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSjYj-0000MOC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 01:44 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02499; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 03:45:05 -0600 Message-Id: <9402050945.AA02499@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 03:45:05 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3412 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (amigae) Subject: HELP!!! (With AppIcons) I'm working on an AppIcon project, and I've run into what I think may be a bug in E. I'm trying to read the appmessage.arglist[].name. According to the RKM, the .name part is there, and according to E, it is not. Ok I can handle that. I look up the appmessage structure in 'workbench/workbench' and it says that appmessage.arglist is a LONG. So how the heck are you supposed to read the names of the icons which are dropped on the AppIcon??? BTW - This is an attempted translation of the AppIcons prog on page 360 of the Libaries RKM. The code I have so far follows (so far this code can detect when the AppIcon is double clicked, when objects are dropped on it, and how many. Now I just need to get the names of the icons which are dropped on it!! Thanks in advance for any help. OPT OSVERSION=37 /* The following MODULE statements come from EPP. EPP came up with these statements given the following PMODULE statements: PMODULE 'eheaders:exec/types' PMODULE 'eheaders:workbench/workbench' PMODULE 'eheaders:workbench/startup' PMODULE 'eheaders:exec/libraries' */ MODULE 'exec/types' MODULE 'exec/nodes' MODULE 'exec/lists' MODULE 'exec/tasks' MODULE 'graphics/gfx' MODULE 'exec/ports' MODULE 'exec/semaphores' MODULE 'utility/hooks' MODULE 'graphics/clip' MODULE 'graphics/copper' MODULE 'graphics/gfxnodes' MODULE 'graphics/monitor' MODULE 'hardware/custom' MODULE 'graphics/view' MODULE 'graphics/rastport' MODULE 'graphics/layers' MODULE 'utility/tagitem' MODULE 'graphics/text' MODULE 'exec/io' MODULE 'devices/serial' MODULE 'devices/inputevent' MODULE 'intuition/intuition' MODULE 'workbench/workbench' MODULE 'dos/dos' MODULE 'workbench/startup' MODULE 'exec/libraries' MODULE 'icon' MODULE 'wb' DEF dummy1:LONG DEF dummy2:PTR TO LONG DEF str[256]:STRING DEF dropcount DEF x DEF dobj:PTR TO diskobject DEF myport:PTR TO mp DEF appcon:PTR TO appicon DEF appmsg:PTR TO appmessage PROC main() IF (iconbase:=OpenLibrary('icon.library',37)) IF (workbenchbase:=OpenLibrary('workbench.library',37)) IF (dobj:=GetDefDiskObject(WBDISK)) dobj.type=NIL IF (myport:=CreateMsgPort()) IF (appcon:=AddAppIconA(NIL,NIL,'TestAppIcon',myport,NIL,dobj,NIL)) dropcount:=0 WriteF('Drop files on the AppIcon.\n') WriteF('Example exits after 3 drops.\n') WHILE dropcount < 3 WaitPort(myport) WHILE appmsg:=GetMsg(myport) IF appmsg.numargs = 0 WriteF('User activated the AppIcon.\nA window here would be nice.\n') ELSEIF appmsg.numargs>0 WriteF('User dropped \d icons on the AppIcon.\n',appmsg.numargs) FOR x:= 0 TO appmsg.numargs-1 dummy1:=appmsg.arglist dummy2:=dummy1[x] StrCopy(str,dummy2,ALL) WriteF('#\d name = \s\n',x+1,str) ENDFOR ENDIF ReplyMsg(appmsg) ENDWHILE INC dropcount ENDWHILE RemoveAppIcon(appcon) WHILE appmsg:=GetMsg(myport) ReplyMsg(appmsg) ENDWHILE DeleteMsgPort(myport) FreeDiskObject(dobj) CloseLibrary(workbenchbase) CloseLibrary(iconbase) ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDPROC From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:43:45 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r12@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:43:45 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeDp-0001OgC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:14 PST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSm7L-0000gHC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 04:28 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <08230-0@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 12:27:59 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <06947-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 12:27:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 12:28:59 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <28449.199402011421@badger.westminster.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: I`m new here! On Tue, 1 Feb 1994 vaald@westminster.ac.uk wrote: > Anyway, I`m wondering about a couple of things: > > 1: E has some darn useful functions missing... > Has anyone managed to use GT_SetGadgetAttrs in gadtools? Cuz it AIN`T THERE! > And ParsePatternNoCase() in DOS? SAME AGAIN! (bitch when writing a file > finder... like I WAS... :) Gt_SetGadgetAttrs is a stack based function. E does not provide this sort of function call, so you must use Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA. Due to E's list handling facilities, the code ends up looking virtually the same anyway : Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA(gad,win,NIL,[GA_DISABLED,TRUE,0]); instead of Gt_SetGadgetAttrs(gad,win,NIL,GA_DISABLED,TRUE,0) > Not to mention DoMethod() in amiga.lib... I tried disassembling this but > I don`t know too much about how the C stubs work, so I got lost... :( > Anyway, any help in getting around these problems would be appreciated... Wouter sent code for a DoMethod to the list some time ago, I seem to remember. So, hunt through your archives for his message (I didn't save it at the time, unfortunately). I think it was either July or August. > Finally, has anyone got any tips for reading tooltypes? My efforts crash the > system, but I don`t have the source at hand :( If you have WB2+ and don't mind relying on your users to have this too, there are some functions in the Workbench or Icon library - can't remember which - that will do this for you. > And this month`s Amiga Shopper has a 2-page spread on E! Plus the address > for this mailing list... Prepared to be swamped by requests asking how to > access the CLI to compile E code! :) "What is ED?" ... "Hello World" in E... Unfortunately the article was written before E changed to a listserv, so they have the wrong address anyway. I suspect this may turn out to be a headache for Norm more than anyone else :) Dave +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r4k@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeGI-0001qKC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:16 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSuzm-0000O8C; Sat, 5 Feb 94 13:56 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15695; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 15:57:47 -0600 Message-Id: <9402052157.AA15695@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 15:57:47 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2865 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (amigae) Subject: AppIcon.e Yes!!! I did it. I found that in order to read the names of the objects dropped on an AppIcon you have to reference a wbarg structure at arglist in the appmessage structure. (Errrkkk!!) Thanks to my friends includes I figured this out. So it wasn't a bug in E, but durn close. Here's the completely functioning source for a 100% (not yet) usable AppIcon. OPT OSVERSION=37 /* The following MODULE statements come from EPP. EPP came up with these statements given the following PMODULE statements: PMODULE 'eheaders:exec/types' PMODULE 'eheaders:workbench/workbench' PMODULE 'eheaders:workbench/startup' PMODULE 'eheaders:exec/libraries' */ MODULE 'exec/types' MODULE 'exec/nodes' MODULE 'exec/lists' MODULE 'exec/tasks' MODULE 'graphics/gfx' MODULE 'exec/ports' MODULE 'exec/semaphores' MODULE 'utility/hooks' MODULE 'graphics/clip' MODULE 'graphics/copper' MODULE 'graphics/gfxnodes' MODULE 'graphics/monitor' MODULE 'hardware/custom' MODULE 'graphics/view' MODULE 'graphics/rastport' MODULE 'graphics/layers' MODULE 'utility/tagitem' MODULE 'graphics/text' MODULE 'exec/io' MODULE 'devices/serial' MODULE 'devices/inputevent' MODULE 'intuition/intuition' MODULE 'workbench/workbench' MODULE 'dos/dos' MODULE 'workbench/startup' MODULE 'exec/libraries' MODULE 'icon' MODULE 'wb' DEF appmsg:PTR TO appmessage DEF args:PTR TO wbarg DEF dropcount DEF x DEF dobj:PTR TO diskobject DEF myport:PTR TO mp DEF appcon:PTR TO appicon PROC main() IF (iconbase:=OpenLibrary('icon.library',37)) IF (workbenchbase:=OpenLibrary('workbench.library',37)) IF (dobj:=GetDefDiskObject(WBDISK)) dobj.type=NIL IF (myport:=CreateMsgPort()) IF (appcon:=AddAppIconA(NIL,NIL,'TestAppIcon',myport,NIL,dobj,NIL)) dropcount:=0 WriteF('Drop files on the AppIcon.\n') WriteF('Example exits after 3 drops.\n') WHILE dropcount < 3 WaitPort(myport) WHILE appmsg:=GetMsg(myport) IF appmsg.numargs = 0 WriteF('User activated the AppIcon.\nA window here would be nice.\n') ELSEIF appmsg.numargs>0 WriteF('User dropped \d icons on the AppIcon.\n',appmsg.numargs) args:=appmsg.arglist FOR x:= 1 TO appmsg.numargs WriteF('#\d name = "\s"\n',x,args[].name++) ENDFOR ENDIF ReplyMsg(appmsg) ENDWHILE INC dropcount ENDWHILE RemoveAppIcon(appcon) WHILE appmsg:=GetMsg(myport) ReplyMsg(appmsg) ENDWHILE DeleteMsgPort(myport) FreeDiskObject(dobj) CloseLibrary(workbenchbase) CloseLibrary(iconbase) ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDPROC From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r50@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:28 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeGa-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:17 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSw4r-0000uUC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 15:06 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05635; Sat, 5 Feb 94 18:06:30 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA14545; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:06:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:06:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199402052306.SAA14545@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Pointing to gadget > ActivateGadget(g.gadgetid.0,requeststringwnd,NIL) > I believe the RKMS say do NOT use ActivateGadget on Gadtools gadgets. Could be wrong, but I know you are not supposed to use other stuff like DisableGadget on it. Find the proper tag and pass it to it with SetGadgetAttrsA(). -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r55@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeGd-0001peC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:17 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSwAN-00003hC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 15:11 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05829; Sat, 5 Feb 94 18:12:15 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA18004; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:11:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:11:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199402052311.SAA18004@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: New Project! C2E! > >On Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:39:09 -0500 said: > >I myself would be totally happy with something that converted .h files to >the equivalent in .m files. I'm thinking about doing some DLG programming >using E, but the thought of somehow making a .m file that EC will understand >has stopped me so far. ;-) > >Is there any way right now to type in an equivalent OBJECT to the C structure >and then convert that ASCII file to a .m module? Otherwise it becomes a bit >of a pain to use E, since I learn best through hacking with sample code, and >all the sample code for this stuff is in C. > Well, yes, it's quite easy to convert C structures to E. Convert them, then use the PMODULE directive with EPP. That's how H2E is going to work. There really is no huge need to make them .m's.. They're a little slower, but they still work. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:46 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r5a@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:37:46 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeGi-0001PUC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:17 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pSwDR-0000sDC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 15:15 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06018; Sat, 5 Feb 94 18:15:24 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA19831; Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:15:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199402052315.SAA19831@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Amiga E bug! (I'm pretty sure.) > > Here's a solution: Get ALL Devices, and then check all VOLUMES ONLY. A >Device which has a filesystems IS GOING TO HAVE a VOLUME NAME. Just do a >little cross-checking and baddabing, baddaboom :-) > Pretty gross solution I might say. Read my message. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:39:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r7b@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:39:28 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeIH-0001peC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:19 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pT2fz-0000SUC; Sat, 5 Feb 94 22:08 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id AAA20768 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 00:08:20 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24000; Sun, 6 Feb 94 00:04:32 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01601; Sun, 6 Feb 94 00:06:11 CST Date: Sun, 6 Feb 94 00:06:11 CST Message-Id: <9402060606.AA01601@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Egads.e (from dev/e in Aminet) Ho, Dave. I suppose I should fix that egads.lha on aminet since it's turning out to be a 9-headed hydra. The problem is with the object identifier DEF'ed as 'PTR TO textfont'. Change it to "PTR TO tf" and all should be well. (Come on, guys, how many times are ya gonna make me apologize??? :-) :-) -- Barry From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:41:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1r9k@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:41:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeJd-0001PUC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:20 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTBh8-0000HmC; Sun, 6 Feb 94 07:46 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA21306 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 09:46:08 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25924; Sun, 6 Feb 94 09:42:20 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01727; Sun, 6 Feb 94 09:43:59 CST Date: Sun, 6 Feb 94 09:43:59 CST Message-Id: <9402061543.AA01727@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Various ~8> The Great God Wouter spaketh onto the masses: Careful, Jason! His Eggo -- um, er, -- his Ego is large enough already. ;-) -- Barry From donews!crash!uidaho.edu!andre921 Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:42:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rc5@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:42:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeKf-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:21 PST Received: from crow.csrv.uidaho.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTHtO-0000JhC; Sun, 6 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: by crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (1.37.109.8/1.34) id AA10695; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 14:23:38 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 14:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Jeremy Andrews To: "E (Amiga E Mailing List)" Subject: subscribe Please subscribe me. -Jeremy ANDRE921@CROW.CSRV.UIDAHO.EDU From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:44:34 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1re7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:44:34 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeLc-0001P9C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTMiI-0000wIC; Sun, 6 Feb 94 19:32 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA04738; Sun, 6 Feb 94 22:33:00 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA24576; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 22:32:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 22:32:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199402070332.WAA24576@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: 3.0 Wish List Addendum Well, just thought I'd add to this wishlist, though all of these are relatively simple things that probably could have been added to 2.1b. (I guess me and Wouter have different design philosophies.) Wish List Addendum... -No size/element limit on constant structures, lists, arrays.. E is a dynamic language, why is there a limit on something so silly? -Real keyword/constant checking! I want to be able to start my functions/variables in uppercase if I so desire! (You wouldn't believe the problems this is causi ng with converting Angband to E!) Anything else is just cheaping out to keep compiler speed. Come on! Well, everything else I can think of has already been suggested so that's it. I hope this isn't too late for 3.0, or has already been implemented! -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE!olli Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:05 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1res@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:05 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeLq-0001o1C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: from alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTPuw-00006SC; Sun, 6 Feb 94 22:57 PST Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de by alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.931109) id AA57079; Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:34:06 +0100 Received: by Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17252; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:34:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by p232.informatik (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21028; Fri, 4 Feb 94 16:33:56 +0100 Message-Id: <9402041533.AA21028@p232.informatik> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Feb 1994 21:25:35 EST." <199402030225.VAA14485@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 1994 16:33:54 +0100 From: Olliver Moehreke To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Amiga E bug! (I'm pretty sure.) |> >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to |> >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: |> > |> > |> >DEVICENAME: VOLUMENAME: xx% full |> >DEVICE2: VOLUME2: yy% full |> >C: Assign |> >CLIPS: Assign |> > |> >etc... |> >But... no matter which way I do it, I either end up with devices I don't |> >want |> >(SER: AUX: PRT: PAR: etc) or I have no devices at all, just volumes and |> >assigns... the second option would be OK if I knew how to get the devic e |> >name from the volume name.. e.g. given I have a volumename of |> >AmigaLibDisk930, how do I find from that the device it is in? |> >e.g. DF3: |> |> Ok, this is a bit tricky, but is quite doable. My details may be a |> bit off, because I don't have the RKMs with me, but here's the gist. |> First, to avoid having devices you don't like, use the Dos (I believe) |> call, IsFileSystem(). MEGA WARNING !!! NEVER USE IsFileSystem('DEVICE:') WHEN YOU HAVE LOCKED THE DOSLIST FOR READING OR WRITING, BECAUSE YOU WILL GET A MEGA-DEADLOCK... The reason is, that IsFileSystem(...) has to load every handler, that is not already loaded to the system (eg. PRT:). The OS then has to update the processport-information of the doslist and tries to lock the doslist too, that is already locked by you. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver Moehrke EMail: olli@informatik.Uni-Bremen.de FB - Informatik - AG KI UUCP: unido!ubrinf!olli Universitaet Bremen Postfach 33 04 40 Tel: +49-(0)4221-218-3776 D-28334 Bremen Fax: +49-(0)4221-218-7196 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!kbss.bt.co.uk!tonyp Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:19 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rf0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:19 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeLu-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTSE6-0000awC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 01:25 PST Received: from jasper.kbss.bt.co.uk (actually 132.146.9.31) by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:16:20 +0000 Received: from olivine.kbss.bt.co.uk by jasper.kbss.bt.co.uk; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:14:56 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:14:54 GMT Message-Id: <1122.9402070914@olivine.kbss.bt.co.uk> From: Tony Prichard 293834 To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: SUBSCRIBE AmigaE HELP AmigaE FAQ AmigaE From donews!crash!archiduc.irit.fr!vintenat Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:32 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rf8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:32 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeM1-0001UFC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: from archiduc.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTSKe-00017iC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 01:32 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archiduc.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA12055; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:31:40 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:31:40 GMT Message-Id: <199402071031.KAA12055@archiduc.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: vaald@westminster.ac.uk Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Not to mention DoMethod() in amiga.lib... I tried disassembling this but > I don`t know too much about how the C stubs work, so I got lost... :( > Anyway, any help in getting around these problems would be appreciated... Wouter gave me a doMethod() function for Amiga E which works very well, I'll e-mail it to you tomorrow. Does anybody else want it ? >2: I have had some joy with MUI, I got a basic window with some text up > and running, but nothing else... no DoMethod()! Gah! I wrote a macro preprocessor for Amiga E with MUI macros as example. It's called Mac2E. E-mail me for more details. >Finally, has anyone got any tips for reading tooltypes? My efforts crash the >system, but I don`t have the source at hand :( I began a long time ago a program which needed tooltype reading. I gave up this program (for the moment), but I can send to you the parts that you are interested in. But the comments are in French ! Lionel From donews!crash!sheffield.ac.uk!D.Lamptey Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rfd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:45:41 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeM3-0001P9C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTSUu-00013oC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 01:43 PST Received: from ntsc.shef.ac.uk by pp.shef.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <27153-0@pp.shef.ac.uk>; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:38:09 +0000 Received: from mars.nattrans.COM by ntsc.shef.ac.uk (4.1/Derryck 1.1(mm)) id AA10869; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:39:51 GMT Received: by mars.nattrans.COM (4.1/Derryck 1.2(sm)) id AA00601; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:45:02 GMT Via: uk.ac.sheffield; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:42:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:45:02 GMT Message-Id: <9402070945.AA00601@ntsc.shef.ac.uk> From: D.Lamptey@sheffield.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: STOP PRESS!!! ] ]Amiga E has a double page feature in Amiga Shopper this month, March ]issue, pages 62/63. ] ]Here are the contents of the "Checkout" box at the end of the article. ] (Good News...) ] ]----8<----8<----8<---- ] ]The reviewer is called Jason Hulance (are you on this mailing list, ]Jason? :-) ] Yes, Jason is on this list, and contributes frequently. Good to see you made it, Jason! (Please e-mail me, wanna talk to you..) Derryck. _____________________________________________________________ Derryck Lamptey, MSc(Eng): National Transputer Support Centre D.Lamptey@sheffield.ac.uk Evening voice: (+44/0)742 309165 From donews!crash!mars.let.uva.nl!wouter Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rgd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:28 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMQ-0002ScC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from uranus.let.uva.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWaj-0000LPC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 06:05 PST Received: by uranus.let.uva.nl id AA01869 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:00:04 +0100 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:00:04 +0100 Message-Id: <199402071400.AA01869@uranus.let.uva.nl> X-Organisation: Department of Computational Linguistics, University of Amsterdam Spuistraat 134, 1012 VB Amsterdam, The Netherlands From: Wouter van Oortmerssen To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Types! Hello All, Here is yet another text I wrote with the purpose to help people understand E better. It's a first version, so needs improvement. Enjoy! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- UNDERSTANDING E TYPES by Wouter van Oortmerssen Intro ----- Most problems people have while programming in E stem from their incorrect view of how the E type-system works, and, admitted, this is not surprising given the way it is described in the reference manual. Also, many people have an idea how types work from their previous programming language, and try to apply this to E, which is often fatal, because E is quite different when it come to types. The Type System --------------- This may come as a shock to some readers, but E is in essense a TYPELESS language. Indeed, variables may have a type, but this is only used as a specification how to dereference a variable when it is used as a pointer. In almost ALL other language constructions, variables are treated as all being of the same type, namely the famous 32bit typeless value. In practise this means that for example in expressions with the exception of the ".", "[]" and "++" operators etc., all operators and functions work on 32bit values, regardless of wether they represent booleans, integers, reals or pointers to something. So what are those Pointer Types? -------------------------------- In the E type-system only 4 types exist, PTR TO CHAR, PTR TO INT, PTR TO LONG and PTR TO , where is a name of a previously defined OBJECT. When a variable (or an object member, as we'll see later) is declared as being of this type, It means that if the variable contains a value that is a legal pointer, this is how it should be dereferenced. And what about LONG, ARRAY etc. ? --------------------------------- All other types one may see in a DEF declaration a not really types, as they really are only other ways of writing one of the above four. As an example, ARRAY OF is just another way of writing PTR TO , with the only difference that the former is automatically assigned the address of an area of stackspace which is big enough to hold data for the #of elements specified in square brackets. Here's a table that shows all E 'types' in terms of the basic four: ARRAY OF CHAR, ARRAY, STRING, LONG, <> (are equal to) PTR TO CHAR ARRAY OF INT (is equal to) PTR TO INT ARRAY OF LONG, LIST (are equal to) PTR TO LONG ARRAY OF , (are equal to) PTR TO with "<>" I mean: no type specification at all. - LONG is for variables that are not intended to be used as a pointer, i.e integers. It's equivalence with PTR TO CHAR is quite logical, as conceptually both talk about things that are measured in units of 1. (for example, "++" has the same effect on both) - LIST and STRING are the same as their ARRAY equivalents, in respect to the fact that they're initialised to a piece of stack-space, but they're stack representation is a little more complex to facilitate runtime bounds-checking (when used with the correct functions). - an is equivalent to [1]:ARRAY OF . both represent an initialised PTR TO . In an OBJECT one can have the same declarations, with the addition of CHAR and INT (similar to LONG), and the ommission of LIST and STRING, as these are complex objects in their own right, and cannot be part of an object. (NOTE: in versions of E previous to v3.0, PTR TO and ARRAY OF types were not available in OBJECTS) Deferencing ----------- Given a pointer p of some type, "[]" may index other elements that are sequentially ordered next to the element it is currently pointing to. note that this allows for both positive and negative indices, and also no assumptions are made about where and howmany elements are actually allocated. "++" sets the pointer to the next element in memory, "--" to the previous one. note that these operators always operate on the pointer and never on the the element the pointer is pointing to. "." works similar to "[]", only now indexes the pointer by name, i.e. the pointer must be a PTR TO . "[]" and "." may be concatenated to a pointer p in any sequence, given the fact that the previous resulting value again is known to be of a "PTR TO" type. (note that in versions of E previous to v3.0, this was restricted to one "[]" and then one ".", notably because OBJECTs couldn't have PTRs in them) One does not need to write out a de-reference in total, as in other languages, e.g. if p is an ARRAY OF obj, instead of having to write p[index].member you can write just p[index], which logically results in in the address of that object. This also explains why p[].member is equivalent to p.member, since p[] is the same as p when it points to an object. Reference Semantics ------------------- Another type-related issue that makes E somewhat different from other languages and thus harder to grasp is it's accent on Reference Semantics rather than Value Semantics. I'll try to argue why that's good here. Informally, Reference Semantics means that objects in a language (mostly other than the simple ones like LONGs) are represented by pointers, while Value Semantics treats these objects as just being themselves. An example of a language that has only Value Semantics is BASIC, examples of languages that have them both are the C/C++ and Pascal type-of languages, and examples of Reference only are newer Object Oriented languages like Eiffel, functional languages like LISP and ofcourse E. Using Reference Semantics doesn't mean being occupied with pointers all the time, rather you're worrying about them a lot less then in the mixed case or the Value-only case, especially since in real life programs most non-trivial data-structures get allocated dynamically which implies pointers. The best example of this is LISP, where one programs heavily with pointers without noticing. In E, one could easily forget STRING is a pointer, given the easy by which one can pass it around to other functions; in C often lots of "&" are needed where in the equivalent E case non are, and the Oberon equivalent of bla('hallo') looks like bla(sys.ADR('hallo')) because the string doesn't represent a pointer, but a value as a whole... So why do languages have Value Semantics? beats me. One may thinks it's conceptually nice but I can't imagine. A stronger argument seems to be that accesses to objects that are no pointers can be better optimised by a good compiler, but since only very trivial and static data-structures can be build in this fashion, it's hardly an issue. Value semantics is old-fashioned and will probably loose significance in new and upcoming languages. Comparisons with C ------------------ long *x; x:PTR TO LONG long x[10]; -- long dummy[10], *x=&dummy; x[10]:ARRAY OF LONG (-- = not possible, because of value-semantics) Often Made Mistakes ------------------- DEF s[50]:STRING s:='bla' This does not get the 'bla' into the string, however there's nothing wrong with it either, just not what programmer means. The expression on the righthandside of the ":=" results in a pointer, and replaces the pointer that was already in s, namely one to an empty STRING. To actually make a copy of 'bla' instead of just moving the pointer around (which is desired in 90% of the cases), use StrCopy(). Conclusions: So does Strong-Typing suck? ---------------------------------------- Yes and no. From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:43 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rgl@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:43 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMY-0001NlC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWIR-00011XC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 05:46 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16024; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:46:47 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA04970; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:46:16 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:46:15 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <940203183516.204136b3@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com>; from "THORNTONJ@beast.cs.hh.ab.com" at Feb 3, 94 6:35 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Help with screens Hi Jessie ! > Just a quick question. How do you get windows and cons to > open up on a screen that is opened with OpenS(). The only way I know is avalaible under 2.0. You must open a Public Screen. Then open a file with Open() named for example 'CON:0/0/640/100/Shell'. I don't know the possibility of the new 2.0 shell ( I mean options like /CLOSE /WAIT...) there is probably a /PUBLIC option... Under 1.3, opening a shell on a private screen (only the WB is public) is not possible. Or I don't know how to do :) Bye,... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:52 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rgq@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:46:52 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMb-0001o1C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWNZ-0000WmC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 05:51 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16051; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:52:10 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA04998; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:51:40 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:51:39 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "3NDS3" at Jan 31, 94 5:52 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: New Project! C2E! Hi Dave You write : > > Is there any way right now to type in an equivalent OBJECT to the C structure > and then convert that ASCII file to a .m module? Otherwise it becomes a bit > of a pain to use E, since I learn best through hacking with sample code, and > all the sample code for this stuff is in C. Well dave, I did this for the IntuiSup.library. I tranlated the .h into .m via the includes (.i). A friend of mine (Lionel, in this ML) convert me this .h file into .i, Then I modified some C structure and constant definition for my own use. Finally I compile this .i file with Iconvert (which needs A68K and the C includes) into an E module.. That's it ! The most difficult is to convert the .h into .i. I don't have any C compiler... Hope this helps... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rgv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMd-0001P9C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWSz-0000MZC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 05:57 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16082; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:56:15 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA05020; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:55:50 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:55:49 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <199402011022.KAA05246@archiduc.irit.fr>; from "Lionel VINTENAT" at Feb 1, 94 10:22 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Mac2E for 1.3 users Hi Lionel ! > Mac2E v3.0 is finished, and I'm now working on the docs. It is far more > better (faster above all) then the 2.0 one. But I will tell you its new features > when I'll put it on aminet (next week I hope). Good news !!! But under 1.3 too ? > For the moment, my problem is that Mac2E still needs Workbench 2.0+ to > run. So, I ask myself if someone is interested by a 1.3 version. If it is, let Meeeeeeeeeeeeee, I want a 1.3 versions..... :)))) > I've already think about a 1.3 version. My problem is to emulate the > ReadArgs() function. To do this, I thought to use the arp.library. No, try to use the built-in variable 'arg' ! > So I got > it from aminet yesterday. But when I extrated the docs, I found out that the > aminet version is only for 2.0 Kickstart, ARGGGGGGGGGG :-( But I'm sure that > the versions above 39 are for 1.3 kickstart. The V39 of arp.library is for 1.3 users. The v40 is for 2.x users...) > So, is any of you knows where I can > find v39 arp.library ? I can send you the whole disc of ARP... Just tell me ! > Perhaps, somebody owns it ! Third solution : is any of > you successed in making a ReadArgs() emulation for 1.3 ? I don't yet !!! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rh0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMf-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWTC-00015lC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 05:57 PST Received: from agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <29843-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:57:30 +0000 Received: by agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA08772; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:57:21 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:57:21 GMT Message-Id: <9402071357.AA08772@agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Complete function list for Amiga-E Does anyone have a list of all the functions provided by AmigaE. The documentation seems to leave out some functions like StringF() which I only found out about by reading someone elses code. Thanks in advance Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rh8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMk-0001UFC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWxe-00002ZC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 06:29 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16747; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:29:12 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA05219; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:28:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 15:28:45 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: IntuiSup.doc Addendum Hi all, I post this time a new version of my doc about the IntuiSup... I added a section about the locale, and some news... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IntuiSup.library IntuiSup.library The missing DOC Note : this file is *NOT* a part of the IntuiSup archive. I write it only because there are some other users who will ask themself a lot of question about using this library, and may be are as I am, a beginner in programmation, or simply they wnt to know what can do this library. There are some things that I don't know about this library. So don't ask me what does one function do. It is only a summary with some comments. the (?) means that I don't know what exactly does this function. I don't try it yet ! This file is more a 'How to use' and 'whre to find that' file than a technical one, where I can read nothing. All what you will read comes directly from my own experience. There is no Doc, except a brief description of the command. All of this can be found in the example file semed in the archive... I What is the IntuiSup.library ? It is a gadget library compatible with all Amigas system from 1.3 up to 3.0. It is written by Torsten Jürgenleit. The library can be found on Aminet sites, in the 'utils/libs' directory. II What does this library do more than the others ? Well, for 2.0+ system user, this library is only usefull in the way of how you program it in your code. For 1.3 system users, like me, it is a open door to the 2.0 system without having it ! Here are the features that IntuiSup allows : - 3D look, - all 2.0 gadgets, - locale available under 1.3 ! - and a Editor, but unfortunately, it produces C codes :( III How to link IntuiSup with Amiga E ? What about the E modules ? This is a critical point. The only way for E user to use an shared library, is to convert the pragmas and the include files into E modules. Pragmas : you can find the pragmas file called 'IntuiSup.h' Beware, there is many 'IntuiSup.h' files in the archive. Then use the Pragmas2module program to convert it. Place the resulting 'IntuiSup.m' in the EMODULES: directory. Include : There is no IntuiSup.i file in the package. The only way to do is to convert the include 'IntuiSup.h' (not the same as the Pragmas one) with a C processor into 'IntuiSup.i'. And then convert this latter file with Iconvert (which need the SAS/C Includes and A68k). Place the result in the 'EMODULES:Libraries/' directory. That's it for the modules ! Note 1 : I translated these files in E modules, but modified some constants (They are very very long : some are 25 chars long !) Note 2 : In the Include file, you will find a C structure for the gadgets with a C union within. Just erase this structure, we don't use it as far as we will use E lists and the GadgetData structure/object. IV Is there something special in the use of IntuiSup ? Yes, it is the internal variable, which is used in fast all the fonctions. This is the only way to the library to know where it is ! This is because the IntuiSup modify all Intuition messages by adding its own. So it is not very painful to add this library in your code, because all message will be send through intuition. The only minor difference is to replace the functions GetMsg() and ReplyMsg() with IGetMsg() and IReply(). That's all ! For the lists and structure/objects, lists must be 0-terminated. (INTUISUP_DATA_END = 0) V About the gadgets, how do we code them ? Simple, we will use lists to create our gadget. The way to do it is : DEF gadgets gadgets:=[ type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, type,flags,x,y,w,h,text,textattr,data1,data2,data3, ....... 0, 0,0,0,0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ]:gadgetdata Note that you must have at least in the 'emodules:libraries/intuisup.m' module the gadgetdata structure/object. The union can be deleted. This is the object equivalent to the C structure we must have : OBJECT GadgetData [ gd_Types, gd_Flags, gd_LeftEdge, gd_Width, gd_Height, gd_Text, gd_TextAttr : textattr gd_Data1, gd_Data2, gd_Data3 ] You will notice that the string gadget need a 4th Data. You can add this one in this 'onject' before compiling the module, but don't forget to add a 4th NIL data in ALL gadgets... Entries : Note that these entries are definied as constant. type : one of the ten gadgets (1..11) 1 = Button 2 = Check 3 = Mutual Exclude (mx) 4 = String 5 = Integer 6 = Slider 7 = Scroller 8 = Cycle 9 = Count 10 = ListView 11 = Palette flags : 13 flags are available 1 = gadget disabled (ghosted) 2 = no border 4 = Highlight with Complement colour 8 = vertical orientation 16 = Hot Key 32 = No text Output 64 = Text is displayed on the left side of the gadget 128 = ----------------- ------ right ------- ---------- 512 = ----------------- above ---------- 1024 = ----------------- under ---------- 2048 = Button toggle 4096 = Button image x,y,w,h : coordinates of the gadget text : a pointer to a string or a dynamic string textattr : pointer to the TextAttributes strutures or a list datas : here are the meaning of the 3 (or 4) datas for each kind of gadgets : Button : data 1 : button state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : button image (not selected) data 3 : button image (when selected) Check : data 1 : check state : 0 = not selected, 1 = selected data 2 : check pad1 (?) data 3 : check pad2 (?) Mutual exclude (MX) : data 1 : # of pixel sepring 2 radio gadgets data 2 : num of the active entry data 3 : pointer to a text array or a 0-terminated list String : data 1 : length of the input data 2 : offset of the next string gadget to be activated data 3 : offset of the previous string gadget to be activated data 4 : default text that is displayed NOTE : this 4th data is NOT written anywhere. The author says that there is 3 datas in the GadgetData structure/objet. Integer : Same as String Slider : data 1 : minimum level data 2 : maximum level data 3 : current position Scroller : data 1 : # of visible entries data 2 : # of total entries data 3 : cuurent entry (the top one) Cycle : data 1 : # of pixel separing pop up cycle (?) data 2 : # of current cycle text pointer text array (?) data 3 : pointer to cycle text pointer array (?) Count : data 1 : minimum value data 2 : maximum value data 3 : current default value ListView : data 1 : # of pixel separating 2 entries data 2 : current entry (the top one) data 3 : pointer to a List structure/object Palette : data 1 : # of bitplanes to be displayed data 2 : first color in the palette (?) data 3 : selected color Example : DEF gadget,internalvar,txtattr,gadgetlist internamvar:=IgetRenderInfos(screen,RENDERINFOSFLAGS) txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gad:=[ 1,0, 10, 15,120, 13,'Button1' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 3,1,530,167,120, 13,'Mutual Exclude',txtattr,0,0, ['1st item', '2nd item', NIL], 1,0,370, 15,120, 13,'Button2' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ] : gadgetdata gadgetlist:=IcreateGadgets(internalvar,gad,0,0,NIL) Note that you can't pass this gadgetlist in the declaration of a window.. To display the gadget, you must call the IdisplayGadgets(window,gadgetlist) function. The same is to remove a list of gadget from a window, you must call the IremoveGadgets(gadgetlist) and then, if you don't want to use anymore this list, call IfreeGadgetList(gadgetlist). VI Are there others structures/objects ? Yes : the BorderData, which allows you to draw 3D border OBJECT BorderData bd_Type, bd_LeftEdge, bd_TopEdge, bd_Width, bd_Height ] the TextData , which allows to pass text and text flags to some functions OBJECT TextData gd_Type, gd_Flags, gd_LeftEdge, gd_TopEdge, gd_Text, gd_TxtAttr : TextAttr ] Note that it is possible to make an E list of any number of Data, in the form of the GadgetData above. VII And about requesters ? Sorry, but I prefer to use the great ReqTools.library However, requester and auto resquet can be made. There is no file requester :( The structure/object is called 'RequesterData' : OBJECT RequestData [ rd_LeftEdge, rd_TopEdge, rd_Width, rd_Height, rd_Flags, rd_Title, rd_Texts : TextAttr rd_Borders : BorderData rd_Gadgets : GadgetData ] VIII Do you try then menus ? No, not yet. May be sooner than I'm thinking :) The structure/object is named 'MenuData' : OBJECT MenuData [ md_Type, md_Flags, md_Name, md_CommandKey, md_MutualExclude ] IX You said, the localization is available ? Well, yes. As far as I saw in the doc, a fonction can create a 'Langage Text Array'. We can find in the archive '.langage' files, so I suppose that's the locale is implemented ! But, looking at these locale files, I notice that they are ASCII files. I'm not sure that locale files are in ASCII form, but in some IFF form. Sorry I don't try to use it... Conclusion : Well that is all, folks ! I hope that you will enjoy using this library. I think more particularly to 1.3 system users like me. If some one else is making a 'How to use' file ; please mail it me before end of July 94 (I'm returning to France, yes I'm French, studying in Germany !) Olivier ANH -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rhd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:47:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeMn-0001P9C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTWXj-0000yhC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 06:02 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16120; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:02:03 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA05063; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:01:37 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 15:01:36 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "Robert Dabell" at Feb 1, 94 11:46 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: LIST VIEW Hi Robert > > > I'm try to have a list view with the IntuiSup.library > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > What exactly is this, and where can I get it? > You can get it on vertain Aminet sites... I found it only on : - ftp.cs,tu-berlin.de - ftp.wustl.edu - ftp.etsu.edu The archive is 571 Ko long !!!! You can find my an updated doc in the ML of E Bye ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!comlab.oxford.ac.uk!ecs.oxford.ac.uk!m88jrh Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:49:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rje@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:49:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeNh-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:24 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTYu6-0000qwC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:33 PST Received: from ecs.oxford.ac.uk (ecs.ecs) by comlab.oxford.ac.uk id AA04992; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:32:38 GMT Received: from ecs.ox.ac.uk (booth29.ecs) by ecs.oxford.ac.uk (4.1/ecs.1) id AA15531; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:35:46 GMT Received: by ecs.ox.ac.uk (4.1/ecs2.0) id AA00903; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:34:15 GMT Via: uk.ac.oxford.comlab; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:39:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:34:15 GMT Message-Id: <9402071334.AA00903@booth29.ecs.ox.ac.uk> From: m88jrh@ecs.oxford.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Problem child program Jeffery C. May wrote in with a problem, and supplied the complete program. Although it seemed to work it was giving Enforcer hits, which he wanted to remove. Now I don't have an MMU so I can't run Enforcer, but here's a little look at what the problem might be and two possible solutions (amedex2.e and amedex3.e). (The complete lzh archive is pasted on the end...) First off, Jeffery had: > /* Database template */ > OBJECT entry > memberNum[5]:ARRAY > first[40]:ARRAY > last[40]:ARRAY > business[40]:ARRAY > address1[40]:ARRAY > address2[40]:ARRAY > city[30]:ARRAY > state[10]:ARRAY > zip[10]:ARRAY > phone[20]:ARRAY > expires[9]:ARRAY > computer[20]:ARRAY > ENDOBJECT Well, this isn't wrong, just a bit large (especially if you want to reserve a block of 1000 of them...). It would be nicer to just store pointers to the strings in this object, so this is the first change: /* Database template */ OBJECT entry memberNum, first, last, business, address1, address2, city, state, zip, phone, expires, computer ENDOBJECT (In retrospect it looks like Jeffery really wanted to have E-strings in the object [something from a STRING declaration or String() call], but this will do for those, too.) The next problem was reading a lump of memory from a file (in read_list()). The code is OK, but then Jeffery tries to use the lump as if it were a string (a normal string not an E-string). As it stood, the code could run off into unreserved memory because the lump was not NIL terminated (so it wasn't really a string). This can be fixed by making the lump one bigger and sticking the NIL at the end, so this: > flen:=FileLength('current.dex') > IF (mem:=New(flen))= NIL > ... > IF Read(file, mem, flen)<>flen > ... becomes this: flen:=FileLength('current.dex') IF (mem:=New(flen+1))=NIL /* We need extra byte to terminate string */ ... IF Read(file, mem, flen)<>flen ... Close(file) mem[flen]:=NIL /* mem can now be a string (but not an E-string) */ Now Jeffery commits a real E sin: he treats the lump of memory (which isn't even a string) as an E-string. This is because he uses it as the first argument to MidStr() (see the Reference.doc). I don't know how he gets away with it, but he does. This will undoubtly cause memory reads from unreserved memory. And in fact the MidStr() was overkill: all he need do was increase the pointer "mem" appropriately. Also lurking in the code was the invalid call to Val(). The second argument *must* be a pointer to a variable (or appropriate memory), and not the value of a variable. Therefore the second argument should have been "{a}", not simply "a". So, this: > tmp:=InStr(mem, '\n',0); MidStr(st, mem, 0, tmp) > numEntries:=Val(mem,a) > MidStr(mem,mem,tmp+1, ALL) becomes this: t1:=InStr(mem,'\n', 0); MidStr(st, mem, 0, t1) numEntries:=Val(mem, {a}) /* Must pass an address {a} or NIL */ mem:=mem+t1 /* Now mem points to start of next line */ or this if you want to check that the number is valid: t1:=InStr(mem,'\n', 0); MidStr(st, mem, 0, t1) numEntries:=Val(mem, {a}) /* Must pass an address {a} or NIL */ IF a=0 WriteF('Number of entries is not a number!!\n') CleanUp(21) ENDIF IF (numEntries<0) OR (numEntries>MAXENTRIES) WriteF('Invalid number of entries!!\n') CleanUp(22) ENDIF mem:=mem+t1 /* Now mem points to start of next line */ Now we've hit the FOR loop in read_list(). Generally, Jeffery does something similar to the following to read each entry: > t1:=InStr(mem,'|',0); MidStr(list.memberNum,mem,0,t1) > MidStr(mem,mem,t1+1, ALL) > IF (tmp:=InStr(list.memberNum,'|',0)) <> TRUE > jnk:=(list.memberNum)+tmp+2; StrCopy(jnk,'', ALL) > ENDIF This commits the same MidStr() sin twice (the "list" entry elements were ARRAYs and so cannot be used as E-strings). Then something weird happens with StrCopy() and "jnk" (which is a pointer to LONG ???). So "jnk" is not an E-string and it's being used as the first argument to StrCopy(), which is the same sin as the MidStr() sin. If the entry object elements were pointers to E-strings we could use StrCopy() or MidStr() to copy the string from the memory block, but as it is we can use a more sneaky trick: the | character can be replaced by a NIL to terminate each field in the record and we can use the memory in "mem" (being careful not to Dispose(mem) at the end, becuase we want to keep it around). [The second solution copies the memory into fixed sized String()'s, which is arguably better.] IF (t1:=InStr(mem, '|', 0))=NOT_FOUND WriteF('Failed to read member number for entry \d\n', a) CleanUp(23) ENDIF mem[t1]:=NIL /* Turn | into a NIL to make it a string */ list.memberNum:=mem mem:=mem+t1+1 /* mem is still valid */ Notice that there's a bit more error trapping in here, too. (The constant NOT_FOUND is -1, and is a handy constant to define [you could use TRUE I suppose but it doesn't read so well...]) N.B. DON'T FORGET TO REMOVE THE Dispose(mem) FROM THE END OF THE read_list() PROCEDURE IF YOU DO THIS. Next up is a bug in E v2.1b. It's been fixed in later versions, though. > list:=list+(SIZEOF entry) This ought to be replaced by: list++ because "list" has been declared as "PTR TO entry". However, in v2.1b it doesn't increase "list" at all :-( Since I am lucky enough to have a newer, beta version of EC I can reveal that this has already been fixed, so you should be able to do that in v3.0 when it arrives. Well, that's all the potential Enforcer hits I could find. The "amedex2.e" program uses the above method for getting the fields from the records as is nice and similar to Jeffery's original program. "amedex3.e" does what I think Jeffery was trying to do, using fixed sized String()'s for each of the fields and copying them from the input. It uses ReadStr() to keep memory usage to a minimum, reading a line of input on each go. It also tidies up all the error processing by using exceptions (which might serve as a useful example). 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From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:49:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rjw@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:49:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTeNy-0001OoC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:24 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTYZy-0000OmC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:12 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id LAA25719 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 11:12:43 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDEF14; Mon, 7 Feb 94 10:16:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.103386.1351.0CEDEF14@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 10:11:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Help with screens Basically, when you open a screen, give it a public screen name (and make if public of course :-)) Then, when you open a window, specify the public screen that your had just created. From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:53:52 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rp2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:53:52 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTk6L-0001x1C; Mon, 7 Feb 94 23:31 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTk4u-0000gWC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 20:29 PST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:29:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940207232924.2041eb4a@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: PROBLEMS....PROBLEMS...PROBLEMS Hi All, I've been working on my game over the weekend and everything seemed to be going ok. I had done everything that I had set out to do. With Barry's help I was able to get my screen public. I got my proc to draw the maps working right. I had to change my info. from hex to decimal. I also found my function to raise a number to a power (Shl()). With this I was able to leave out about 60 IF statements. I even got my charater icon drawn. This is where my problem starts. After I had my little character drawn, I wanted to see if I would be able to move it like I had planned to. I'm planning to use the keypad as movement, so that by pressing 8 the character would move towards the top of the screen. This worked fine the first time I entered an 8, but when I entered another 8 I got a guru $8000 0003. I don't have any idea as to what is causing the problem. The only thing that I think it might be is the way that I have opened my screen and made it public. That part I copyed word for word out of the pubscreen.e example and then changed it some to make it hires interlaced. Maybe some of you who knows more than me can see what I've done wrong or not done at all. Until I get this problem figured out I can't go any farther with it. Another question that I have is, how do I set the palette for my screen and how to give it that 2.0'ish look. I want windows and cons to look the way they did when I was opening them on the workbench screen. I will use the colors that I have on my workbench, but I need to know how to set them on my screen. I have some more misc. questions but will save them for another post. Thanks in advance. Jessie thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:54:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rp7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:54:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTkZg-0001qKC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 00:01 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTk85-0000iXC; Mon, 7 Feb 94 20:32 PST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:32:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940207233236.2041eb4a@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: FANTASY ADVENTURE ENGINE Here is my program. The data strings should work as is but the Line and Box functions in the drawmap() proc should be put back into one statement I think. I broke them down so that they would mail better. Don't forget to cut this out Please let me know if you can find what's wrong with it. Thanks in advance jessie thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com ---8<-------8<------8<------cut here -----8<-----8<------8<------8<--- /* Fantasy Adventure Engine in E */ OPT OSVERSION=37 MODULE 'intuition/screens' ENUM OKAY,NOSCREEN,NOSIG DEF vwalls[86]:STRING, hwalls[86]:STRING, vdoors[86]:STRING, hdoors[86]:STRING, command[80]:STRING, ccon, oldstd, mapcon, statcon, miscon, myscrn=NIL, sig=-1, name, temp, row, col PROC main() /* this is information for the map later to be read in out of a file */ /* originally these were one line each but broke them up to mail out */ vwalls := '65534000000001457854000000012600000004485069400000'+ '9600000000179200000000006553400000' hwalls := '00000327670000032516000310000000903000240307200903'+ '0000038400000000007319920076832767' hdoors := '00000000000000000004000010000000000000000102400002'+ '0000000000000000000021760051200000' vdoors := '00000000000000832776000000002400000000640000400000'+ '0000000000000000000000000038400000' command := 'test' row := 16 col := 8 openmyscreen() openwindows() oldstd := SetStdOut(miscon) WriteF('This is my first program in E!\n') WriteF('Enter Quit to stop program\n') WHILE StrCmp(command,'QUIT',ALL)=FALSE drawmap() printstatus() temp := SetStdOut(ccon) WriteF('COMMAND>') ReadStr(ccon,command) WriteF('\n') UpperStr(command) docommand() ENDWHILE closewindows() closemyscreen() ENDPROC PROC printstatus() temp := SetStdOut(statcon) WriteF('This is where the characters stats wil be printed\n') WriteF('This is where the general info will be\n') WriteF('This will be info about the game\n') temp := SetStdOut(ccon) ENDPROC PROC openmyscreen() IF (myscrn:=OpenScreenTagList(0, [SA_DEPTH,4, SA_DISPLAYID,$8004, SA_PUBNAME,name:='FAE', SA_PENS,0, SA_TITLE,name, SA_PUBSIG,IF (sig:=AllocSignal(-1))=NIL THEN Raise(NOSIG) ELSE sig, SA_PUBTASK,NIL, 0,0]))=NIL THEN Raise(NOSCREEN) PubScreenStatus(myscrn,0) SetDefaultPubScreen(name) SetPubScreenModes(SHANGHAI) ENDPROC PROC closemyscreen() CloseS(myscrn) ENDPROC PROC openwindows() IF mapcon:=OpenW(1,1,190,185,$200,$F,'Map',NIL,1,NIL) ENDIF IF statcon:=Open('con:190/1/450/55/Status',NEWFILE) ENDIF IF miscon:=Open('con:190/55/450/131/Misc',NEWFILE) ENDIF IF ccon:=Open('con:1/185/640/215/Commands',NEWFILE) ENDIF ENDPROC PROC docommand() IF command := '8' row:=row-1 /* this is my original line */ /* also tried; row-- */ ENDIF ENDPROC PROC closewindows() Close(ccon) CloseW(mapcon) Close(statcon) Close(miscon) ENDPROC PROC drawmap() /* draw map and position character icon */ DEF i, ii, vbase, hbase, verwal[6]:STRING, horwal[5]:STRING, verdor[5]:STRING, hordor[5]:STRING, nvwal, nhwal, nvdor, nhdor vbase := 15 hbase := 7 FOR i:= 1 TO 17 MidStr(verwal,vwalls,(i-1)*5,5) MidStr(horwal,hwalls,(i-1)*5,5) MidStr(verdor,vdoors,(i-1)*5,5) MidStr(hordor,hdoors,(i-1)*5,5) nvwal:=Val(verwal,NIL) nhwal:=Val(horwal,NIL) nvdor:=Val(verdor,NIL) nhdor:=Val(hordor,NIL) FOR ii := 1 TO 16 /* these Line commands were one line, broke them up for mailing */ IF nvwal AND Shl(1,ii-1) Line(hbase+((ii-1)*10),vbase+((i-1)*10), (hbase+10)+((ii-1)*10),vbase+((i-1)*10),2) ENDIF IF nhwal AND Shl(1,ii-1) Line(hbase+((i-1)*10),vbase+((ii-1)*10), hbase+((i-1)*10),(vbase+10)+((ii-1)*10),2) ENDIF IF nvdor AND Shl(1,ii-1) Box(hbase+3+((ii-1)*10),(vbase-1)+((i-1)*10), hbase+7+((ii-1)*10),(vbase+1)+((i-1)*10),3) ENDIF IF nhdor AND Shl(1,ii-1) Box((hbase-1)+((i-1)*10),vbase+3+((ii-1)*10), (hbase+1)+((i-1)*10),vbase+7+((ii-1)*10),3) ENDIF ENDFOR ENDFOR Box(hbase+((col-1)*10)+4,vbase+((row-1)*10)+2, hbase+((col-1)*10)+5,vbase+((row-1)*10)+5,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+3,vbase+((row-1)*10)+4, hbase+((col-1)*10)+6,vbase+((row-1)*10)+4,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+2,vbase+((row-1)*10)+2, hbase+((col-1)*10)+2,vbase+((row-1)*10)+3,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+7,vbase+((row-1)*10)+2, hbase+((col-1)*10)+7,vbase+((row-1)*10)+3,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+3,vbase+((row-1)*10)+6, hbase+((col-1)*10)+3,vbase+((row-1)*10)+6,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+6,vbase+((row-1)*10)+6, hbase+((col-1)*10)+6,vbase+((row-1)*10)+6,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+2,vbase+((row-1)*10)+7, hbase+((col-1)*10)+3,vbase+((row-1)*10)+7,1) Line(hbase+((col-1)*10)+6,vbase+((row-1)*10)+7, hbase+((col-1)*10)+7,vbase+((row-1)*10)+7,1) ENDPROC From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:00:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rr4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:00:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rqe@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:23:54 PST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:23:54 PST Message-Id: <9402082123.1rqe@bkhouse.cts.com> Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Ahem... In argusnet.amiga.amigae, article , you wrote: > Hi all, > > Well I recieve the mail from our listserv Man. I notice the problem.. > But, I send for 3 days a mail. I never recieve it back, but some of you > mail me that they read it !!!!! There have been a variety of problems with my feed system in the last couple of weeks. We think that these are finally fixed and both mail and news are flowing fine through bkhouse again. Unfortunately, the problems caused a number of delays and other oddities with regard to amigae list mail, and all I can do in response is ask for your patience. We really are working very hard to keep all the mailing lists here at bkhouse running as smoothly as possible. Thanks! Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:00:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rr9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:00:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rqj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:27:59 PST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:27:59 PST Message-Id: <9402082127.1rqj@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: <199402011817.AA07392@access2.digex.net>; (argusnet.amiga.amigae) Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Double mailing? In argusnet.amiga.amigae, article <199402011817.AA07392@access2.digex.net>, you wrote: > I seem to be getting double mailings of some of the the postings to the > list. Can I assume that his is not normal? Any help is appreciated. I suppose that depends on what you think is normal? :) Anyway, yes there have been problems with double mailings of some postings. These are not coming from my site, but from the next one upstream, who receives all the outgoing list mail via SMTP. So far, the problem has defied all attempts to figure it out, but we have at least gone from doubling every posting to doubling just some of them. I think that we are finally on the right track, and I hope to have this cleared up soon. Please, everyone, accept my apologies for all these burps in the mailing list administration and dissemination. In one week, both my site (bkhouse) and my feed site went through major system upgrades, and it is taking a bit to straighten out the results of those ill-timed tandem changes. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!emh.kadena.af.mil!mckinnej Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:33:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rsd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:33:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTr7M-0001NRC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 07:00 EST Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTqsR-000092C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 03:45 PST Received: by emh.kadena.af.mil (5.60 pl1/25-eef) id AA02765; Tue, 8 Feb 94 20:34:40 JST Message-Id: <9402082034.AA02765@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:34:37 +0000 (JST) In-Reply-To: from "3NDS3" at Feb 4, 94 03:28:14 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 486 From: James Mckinney To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Egads.e (from dev/e in Aminet) > Is it just my machine or is anyone having trouble compiling this? It > keeps choking at the first DEF statement with an "unknown object > identifier" error. I don't know what the problem is, certainly the code > before that references all the modules properly. Barry, anyone? Mail has been slow lately so I don't know if anyone's answered this for you. The problem is in the line "scrFont:PTR to textfont". Change the "textfont" to "tf" and it will compile. Later, Jim From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:17:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rtu@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:17:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTtwW-0001NRC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:01 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pTts1-0000DwC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 06:56 PST Received: from rbhp45.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA23676; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:57:09 +0100 Received: by rbhp45.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA03962; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:56:39 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 15:56:38 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Ah ? Hi all, I look into a source someone mail to the ML for some week. It is called 'AmEdex'. Well I saw the following decalration of an object : /* Database template */ OBJECT entry memberNum[5]:ARRAY first[40]:ARRAY last[40]:ARRAY business[40]:ARRAY address1[40]:ARRAY address2[40]:ARRAY city[30]:ARRAY state[10]:ARRAY zip[10]:ARRAY phone[20]:ARRAY expires[9]:ARRAY computer[20]:ARRAY ENDOBJECT The first, last, address1 and 2 items are used as String variable. Is this really a correct definition, or is it good to use the String() statement ? Here is how the use of then item are done, after openening a file : t1:=InStr(mem,'|',0); MidStr(list.first,mem,0,t1) MidStr(mem,mem,t1+1,ALL) IF (tmp:=InStr(list.first,'|',0)) <> TRUE jnk:=list.first+tmp+2; StrCopy(jnk,'', ALL) ENDIF Could we do a such statement : object.item := Stringvar ? Bye... I'm waiting for a answer about the ReqTools and and ARRAY OF STRING ... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH (ERAMUS Student) |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cs.vu.nl!velschot Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:21:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1rxp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:21:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU0Xz-0001n3C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 17:04 EST Received: from top.cs.vu.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU0PZ-0000OPC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:56 PST Received: from kits.cs.vu.nl by top.cs.vu.nl id aa05895; 8 Feb 94 22:55 MET Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:56:06 MET Message-ID: <9402082256.aa01698@kits.cs.vu.nl> From: Elschot VAW To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: converting .h to .m Hello, A friend of mine has bought himself a registered copy of a BBS programme, called Xenolink. with this, he got a few .h files to create 'C' programmes for doors etc. I've tried to convert these files to .m, but several of them turn outas files of ONE byte. this obviousely is wrong. So, can anybody tell me what's going on? am I using the wrong converter? or is it just an OLD one.. I could really use your help, because my friend is thinking of deserting to C! vinny From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:26 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s08@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:26 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5EP-0001NJC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Bs-0000JnC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28362 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:09 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxGf-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:34 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:34:36 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <199401312146.QAA24334@freenet.buffalo.edu> from "ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu" at Jan 31, 94 04:39:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1275 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Pointing to gadget > activated. So, I used the ActivateGadget() routine. I can't get > ActivateGadget() to activate my string gadget. I created the interface to > DEF mystringgadget:PTR TO gadget > IF (g:=CreateGadgetA(STRING_KIND,g, > [offx+65,offy+41,326,14,'_String',tattr,0,1,visual,0]:newgadget, > [GTST_MAXCHARS,256, > GT_UNDERSCORE,"_", > NIL]))=NIL THEN RETURN NOGADGET mystringgadget:=g > [...] > > ActivateGadget(g.gadgetid.0,requeststringwnd,NIL) This would certainly not work even if it did compile. the contents of the variable 'g' has changed several times since it held the pointer to the string gadget. Also, ActivateGadget() requires a pointer to the gadget structure, not an id. In the case I've noted above it would be: ActivateGadget(mystringgadget,requeststringwnd,NIL) > I can't get the program to compile when I have this in. My string gadget is :-) You have g.gadgetid.0 Strange construction you have there :-) -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s0d@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5EQ-0001OUC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Bt-0000M0C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28356 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:08 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTx8G-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:25 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:25:55 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <1d.99661.1351.0CEDEA17@synapse.org> from "Bob Monaghan" at Jan 31, 94 10:53:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 607 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: iffparse.library > > I've just started using the iffparse.library. > and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. > ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? Yes, I got exactly the same problem, and I know I've seen messages from other people who get the same problem with 'E' . What a downer.. I really really need to use iffparse.library :-( -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s0i@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:23:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5EW-0001q3C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C1-0000DPC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28369 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:11 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxKN-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:38 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:38:27 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <9401311709.3.23539@cup.portal.com> from "WiZkId@cup.portal.com" at Jan 31, 94 05:09:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 894 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Devices and volumes > >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to > >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: > > > > > >DEVICENAME: VOLUMENAME: xx% full > >DEVICE2: VOLUME2: yy% full > >C: Assign > >CLIPS: Assign > Here's a solution: Get ALL Devices, and then check all VOLUMES ONLY. A > Device which has a filesystems IS GOING TO HAVE a VOLUME NAME. Just do a > little cross-checking and baddabing, baddaboom :-) Sounds extremely tedious. :-) I found a much easier way anyway.. thanks for the reply though. -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:00 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s0n@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:00 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5EY-0001rXC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C1-0000M8C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28375 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:12 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxVf-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 02:50 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:50:07 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <28449.199402011421@badger.westminster.ac.uk> from "vaald@westminster.ac.uk" at Feb 1, 94 02:21:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1202 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > 1: E has some darn useful functions missing... > Has anyone managed to use GT_SetGadgetAttrs in gadtools? Cuz it AIN`T THERE! Use Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA() like everyone else does :-) (You do remember to make the second letter lower-case??) > And ParsePatternNoCase() in DOS? SAME AGAIN! (bitch when writing a file > finder... like I WAS... :) Looks like you're stuck with ParsePattern and MatchPattern() > 2: I have had some joy with MUI, You threw it away like I did?? :-) MUI : How to turn an A3000 into an A600 :) > Anyway, if anyone wants any help with gadtools or similar stuff please > mail me direct, as I have quite a bit of expereince with such things. Except Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA() I guess :-) :-) > Finally, has anyone got any tips for reading tooltypes? My efforts crash the > system, but I don`t have the source at hand :( Yep, make sure you open icon.library :-) I don't have the source at hand just now either. -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s0s@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Ea-0001OlC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:05 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C3-0000LhC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28382 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:14 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxlO-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 03:06 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 03:06:21 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <199402030225.VAA14485@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 2, 94 09:25:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1871 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: stuff about dos > >Odd, because I also use New() and String() for similar fields, and I also > >use Dispose() to free up the memory. It works ok here. I get every byte back > >that my program uses. I can't explain what the problem is unfortunately. > Hmm, strange.. Yeah, I haven't touched said program myself in > quite a few days, having just gotten ahold of Dune II and 1869. heh. After reading that msg from Wouter about using DisposeLink() I better go back to a couple of programs and fix them :-) Odd that they work with no errors relating to those strings Dispose()'d > >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to > >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: > >e.g. DF3: > Ok, this is a bit tricky, but is quite doable. My details may be a > bit off, because I don't have the RKMs with me, but here's the gist. > First, to avoid having devices you don't like, use the Dos (I believe) > call, IsFileSystem(). Uhuh... Good start :) > To get the volume of the currently selected dir, somewhere in the > directory structure there's a pointer to a DiskInfo structure (or mm yeah.. Assuming you have a lock to work with. I found that trying to do anything with a device that didn't have a volume in it either had no lock to work with, or popped a requester 'Please insert volume "" in df0:' After a lot of stuffing around, I found a way to get it to work, which involved locking the device if there was no lock available, and making sure my process windowptr was set to prevent the requester popping up. I think I used NameFromLock() on the device's lock to find the volume name. -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s0x@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Ec-0001q3C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:05 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C4-0000JnC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28410 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:20 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTy5t-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 03:27 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 03:27:32 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <199402032356.SAA24368@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 3, 94 06:56:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1410 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) > Rob Nottage asked for help on this, so here's the writeup on how to > get volume names, sizes, etc... (Modified for beginners as well, as I know > you aren't, Rob.) That's a matter of opinion :-) Thanks for all the info.. I ended up sorting it all out a couple of nights ago.. I decided to go into a frenzy with RKMs autodocs includes and stuff spread out all over the place, including both Amigas.. :-) > To get this structure, use the Dos call Info(lock,infodata). Where > lock is a BCPL pointer to a lock (obtained from Open or Lock), and infodata > is a pointer to an allocated InfoData structure. This way you can use any > open file to obtain the volume information. > That should pretty much do it. If example code is needed, I'll be > happy to post it. Yeah.. umm that's all great but you still get that requester when you try to do something with, for example, DF0: if there is no disk in there :) I fixed that bit up by getting my task like this. DEF mytask:PTR TO process ... mytask:=FindTask(NIL) ... temp:=mytask.windowptr mytask.windowptr:=-1 /*scan the device list*/ mytask.windowptr:=temp No nasty requesters if a device is empty! -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:32 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s12@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:32 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Ee-0001OlC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:05 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C6-0000HoC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28388 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:15 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxnt-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 03:08 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 03:08:57 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <199402030302.WAA07822@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 2, 94 10:02:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 625 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: C2E re: C2E > Well, I'm writing it, and I'm not even close to done. (Of course, > this Dune II and 1869 thing hasn't helped.) Expect it on aminet in a > MINIMUM of 4 months. H2E might be up sooner, say within a month. Programmer's rule #1 never ever even GUESS a target date for release of your program :-) Just tell 'em it will be ready Wednesday (don't say which Wednesday) -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:43 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s17@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:24:43 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5Eg-0001opC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 22:05 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pU5C6-0000BmC; Tue, 8 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA28398 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:02:18 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pTxxu-000BvRC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 03:19 WST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 03:19:18 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <940203183516.204136b3@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> from "THORNTONJ@beast.cs.hh.ab.com" at Feb 3, 94 06:35:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1286 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Help with screens > Just a quick question. How do you get windows and cons to > open up on a screen that is opened with OpenS(). > > Haven't had a chance to really look at the ref docs yet, maybe > the answer is there, but if anybody could show me how I would be > grateful. As far as I'm aware, you cannot legally open a window on a screen you don't own unless it is the workbench screen or a public screen. I can't remember exactly but i have a feeling that OpenS() doesn't allow you to open a public screen. Personally, I've never used OpenS() since OpenScreenTagList() is a lot more versatile (but not WB 1.3) Once you open a public screen, you can open a console window on it like this con:=Open('con:0/0/640/256/MyScreenTitle/screenPUBSCREENNAME',MODE_NEWFILE) replace 'PUBSCREENNAME' with the actual publicscreen name of the screen in question. To open a window on a publicscreen you can use OpenWindowTagList() and include in the taglist: ...,WA_PUBSCREENNAME,pubscreenname,.... where 'pubscreenname' contains the name of the publicscreen. -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:26:07 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s2m@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:26:07 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUANI-0001oLC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 03:34 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUAIu-0000DeC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 00:29 PST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 2:23:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940209022322.20428c96@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: some problems solved Hi Guys (and maybe Gals), Found my problem with FAE. I had used an assignment ':=' where I should have used '='. Once I fixed that it didn't GURU again, but it didn't work right either. Looks like I'm going to have to use CASE and SELECT's. Oh well, slowly but surely, at least I'm learning and that's mainly what I wanted to do in the first place. later Jessie thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:20:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s3n@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:20:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s38@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:49:18 PST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:49:18 PST Message-Id: <9402091649.1s38@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: ; (argusnet.amiga.amigae) Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! Dave Higginson wrote: > On Tue, 1 Feb 1994 vaald@westminster.ac.uk wrote: > > > And this month`s Amiga Shopper has a 2-page spread on E! Plus the address > > for this mailing list... Prepared to be swamped by requests asking how to > > access the CLI to compile E code! :) "What is ED?" ... "Hello World" in E... > > Unfortunately the article was written before E changed to a listserv, so > they have the wrong address anyway. I suspect this may turn out to be a > headache for Norm more than anyone else :) It's not really a headache at all. The amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com address still works, it just refers everything to the listserv. Folks who mail a request to that address which does not include a valid listserv request (such as SUBSCRIBE) will get a cheerful little note explaining how to use the listserv. 15 or so of these have gone out already, just since Friday. We are getting a lot of new subscriptions all of a sudden, as well as a bunch of deletions, but since many of our list members are of the "strong, silent type", it remains to be seen what long term impact this will have on the list. Right now the list is at just under 170 members, and growing every week. It's been much more successful than I ever thought it would be when I first started it last spring. Much like my garden, I've really enjoyed watching it sprout, grow and mature. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:28:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1s6d@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:28:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUFxG-0001n2C; Wed, 9 Feb 94 09:31 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUFjw-0000F9C; Wed, 9 Feb 94 06:18 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA05302 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:17:25 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16808; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:13:35 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01155; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:15:14 CST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:15:14 CST Message-Id: <9402091415.AA01155@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Strings and Numbers and Things......Oh My!! Hi, Jessie. ~8> I know in the Ref docs it tells how to change a string representation ~8> of a number to a number, but can you change a string rep. of a hex number ~8> into a hex number. A number's a number's a number, dude. :-) A hex string is an "image" of a binary number, and you have the luxury in E of looking at the binary number in more than one form. It's all in the perspective. ~8> Also I haven't been able to find any mention of how to raise a number ~8> to a power. PROC exp(n, p) /*-- Computes n**p. --*/ DEF i, x=1 FOR i:=1 TO p DOx:=x*n ENDPROC x ~8> The reason for the questions is that in the game I'm working on, I'm ~8> breaking the map down into a 16 x 16 grid with the lines to the grid ~8> representing where the vertical and horizontal walls would be. Sounds like a job for...Multi-Dimensional Arrays in E! :-) ~8> I could use decimal instead of hex but I'm trying to keep my eventual ~8> data files as small as possible. Also being able to raise 2 to the diff ~8> powers would cut down on the code some. Are you storing the data as binary or ascii? In binary a 0 byte takes up just as much room 255 byte. Same rule applies to ints and longs. ~8> I don't have a lot done yet but if anyone's interested i could send them ~8> what I have so you could kinda see what I'm trying to do and maybe offer ~8> some suggestions on how to do some things better. <*drool*> Aaaaah, E code! Later. -- Barry From donews!crash!freenet.buffalo.edu!ac812 Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:34:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ses@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:34:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUOqg-0001THC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 19:01 EST Received: from freenet.buffalo.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUOUf-00002EC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 15:38 PST Received: from localhost (ac812@localhost) by freenet.buffalo.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA09960; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:38:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:38:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199402092338.SAA09960@freenet.buffalo.edu> Reply-To: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu From: ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu (Matthew Hornyak) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Pointing to gadget > > >> ActivateGadget(g.gadgetid.0,requeststringwnd,NIL) >> > I believe the RKMS say do NOT use ActivateGadget on Gadtools >gadgets. Could be wrong, but I know you are not supposed to use other >stuff like DisableGadget on it. Find the proper tag and pass it to it with >SetGadgetAttrsA(). You may be wrong, because in the GadTools chapter of RKM Libraries, where it talks about Keyboard Equivalent behavior, it says to "use Intuition's ActivateGadget() call" with Text and Number Entry gadgets. -- ---------------->-Matthew Hornyak-ac812@freenet.buffalo.edu-<----------------- Please support the Bill Clinton mind fund. |Super Bowl 25, 26, 27 and 28 Because a mind is a terrible thing not to have.|GO BILLS in Super Bowl XXVIII From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:35:18 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sfo@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:35:18 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUPPg-0001NsC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 19:37 EST Received: from bos1c.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUPDo-0000UQC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:25 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #4520) id <01H8OY3HOPR48ZHX49@delphi.com>; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:17:35 EST Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 19:17:35 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8OY3HOZEQ8ZHX49@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: MUI tools help I am having trouble useing the Gadtoolsbox. I can create a window and I can covert it to e with sourcegen. My problem is..... I need some examples on how to read/write to the gadgets. Is thier a command like "getgadinfo" or "putgadinfo"? Eric From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:36:26 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sh0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:36:26 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pURCh-0001prC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 21:32 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUQkV-0000MaC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 18:03 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20636; Wed, 9 Feb 94 21:03:39 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA05469; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:03:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:03:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199402100203.VAA05469@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! >>Finally, has anyone got any tips for reading tooltypes? My efforts crash the >>system, but I don`t have the source at hand :( > > I began a long time ago a program which needed tooltype reading. I gave >up this program (for the moment), but I can send to you the parts that you >are interested in. But the comments are in French ! > Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made for a friend) -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!world.std.com!cosell Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:37:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sib@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:37:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pURgr-0001o1C; Wed, 9 Feb 94 22:03 EST Received: from news.std.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pURd0-00002kC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 18:59 PST Received: from world.std.com by news.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA21700; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:59:40 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA14360; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:59:38 -0500 X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Content-Length: 775 Date: Wednesday, 9 February 1994 21:23 EST Organization: Fantasy Farm Fibers Message-Id: <5883:77010@fantasyfarm.com> From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Bugs in the Mod() function After a lot of debugging of code that ought to have worked, I discovered that the Mod function seems to be VERY broken. As we [ought to] all know, taking an integer mod N should *always* get you an integer between 0 and n-1. Well, it ain't so in E. A simple test reveals: Modulo: Mod(11,8) = 3 Modulo: Mod(6,8) = 6 Modulo: Mod(1,8) = 1 Modulo: Mod(-4,8) = -4 Modulo: Mod(-9,8) = -1 Modulo: Mod(-14,8) = -6 Which is clearly broken. In the course of pursuing this, I discovered that simple division ain't a prize, either: Dividing 11 / 8 = 1 Dividing 6 / 8 = 0 Dividing 1 / 8 = 0 Dividing -4 / 8 = 0 Dividing -9 / 8 = -1 Dividing -14 / 8 = -1 It is astounding to me to try to understand arithmetic in an environment where: (A - B) / B does *NOT* equal (A / B) - 1 /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com Fantasy Farm Fibers, Pearisburg, VA (703) 921-2358 From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:38:13 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sj8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 01:38:13 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUSeI-0001w2C; Wed, 9 Feb 94 23:05 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUSSt-00008HC; Wed, 9 Feb 94 19:53 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA26817; Wed, 9 Feb 94 22:53:38 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA17369; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:53:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:53:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199402100353.WAA17369@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Some stuff.. Well, some announcements, etc.. I have just uploaded Eformat 1.4 to aminet after having ferretted out the machine guruing bug. It was Eformat. (I wasn't initializing the stack pointer.. duh.) So, to fix it, I switched to the stack code in the E source archive. Now works like a charm, again. The reason I even saw the bug is because the nested case stuff wasn't working on some WouterCode, when fixing that, I noticed the stack problem. My apologies to the person who reported the bug. My fault! Also, H2e is almost complete and should be up within the week. It works fine so far, but does not do the following: - any code! - global/extern variables - string constants - Other goodies -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!dutikos.twi.tudelft.nl!verver Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:32:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1smn@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:32:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUaaC-0001OqC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 07:33 EST Received: from dutrun.tudelft.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUaLj-0000l4C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 04:18 PST Received: from dutikos.twi.tudelft.nl by dutrun.tudelft.nl with SMTP (PP) id <26105-0@dutrun.tudelft.nl>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:18:21 +0100 Received: by dutikos.twi.tudelft.nl (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00958; Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:16:30 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:16:30 GMT Message-Id: <9402101316.AA00958@dutikos.twi.tudelft.nl> From: verver@dutikos.twi.tudelft.nl (Rob Verver) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Types! En jij verwachte dat niemand je tegen zou spreken, huh? Ha! Niet dus: > [...] > and examples of Reference only are newer Object Oriented languages like > Eiffel, functional languages like LISP and ofcourse E. > [...] AHUM!!! Hier spreekt de Eiffel kenner: Eiffel heeft excact dezelfde ref/value semantics als Pascal. Het is alleen zo dat de meeste types standaard referenced values hebben, maar je kunt ze net zo makkelijk 'expanded' maken. Een belangrijk verschil met C is dat in het gebruik je niet hoeft te weten of een type expanded of referenced is. Dit is dus een schijnbare overeenkomst met E, maar dat ligt dus NIET aan de reference semantics. > [...] Value semantics > is old-fashioned and will probably loose significance in new and upcoming > languages. Tsja, je zegt het zelf al, E heeft toch nog value semantics voor scalaire types, zoals de meeste talen. > Conclusions: So does Strong-Typing suck? > ---------------------------------------- > > Yes and no. > Enlighten me, great Wooter! :-) Voor de rest ben ik het trouwens helemaal met je eens. Zelfs Icon is bij nader inzien inderdaad ERG goed. Rob From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:33:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1snh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:33:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUbUB-0001O6C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 08:31 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUbGN-0000HYC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 05:16 PST Received: from agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <05837-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:15:43 +0000 Received: by agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA18554; Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:15:32 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:15:32 GMT Message-Id: <9402101315.AA18554@agattu.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: vaald@westminster.ac.uk Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Wouter gave me a doMethod() function for Amiga E which works very > well, I'll e-mail it to you tomorrow. Does anybody else want it ? I would quite like this and any other BOOPSI support you happen to have since I would like to experiment with BOOPSI programming but have been held back by the lack of these functions/macros. Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:34:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1so2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:34:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUcQa-0001OqC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:31 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUcJV-0000AFC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 06:24 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA03944; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:24:18 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA10628; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:23:58 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 15:23:57 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402060606.AA01601@plucky.safb.af.mil>; from "Barry D Wills" at Feb 6, 94 12:06 (midnight) Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Thanx Hi, ! Well I must thanx Barry and Kenny : I recieve 5 mails with the gtlv.e ! 3 from Kenny, 2 from Barry. Note that I can't compile this programme, cause I'm under 1.3.... Well, I have a questoin : in the definition of the object l : PROC initList(l:PTR TO mlh) /*-- Initialize an exec list. --*/ l.head:=l+4 l.tail:=NIL l.tailpred:=l ENDPROC Why is l.head:=l+4, for what is this 4 ? What is the meaning of .tailpred. I know the others items, but this not one. /*-- This is where the string gadget buffer is hidden. --*/ stringInfo:=stringGadget.specialinfo stringGadgetValue:=stringInfo.buffer /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ What do you measn with 'hidden' ? Must we always detach the list from the listview gadget before modifying it ? Thanx for the answers ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:07:43 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1so7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:07:43 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUcta-0001O6C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:01 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUcUK-0000VMC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 06:35 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA03994; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:35:15 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA10703; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:34:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 15:34:53 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402070945.AA00601@ntsc.shef.ac.uk>; from "D.Lamptey@sheffield.ac.uk" at Feb 7, 94 9:45 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: don't stop the press Hi, > > ] > ]Amiga E has a double page feature in Amiga Shopper this month, March > ]issue, pages 62/63. > ] Well, here in Germany, Amiga Plus begins a course in programming in Amiga E. The magazin is sold with a disc containing the whole archive of AmigaE The first article is on 6 pages. It might be 10 others courses... They is a very great spread out in Germany these months. ote that the other magazin : Amigamagazin, of february gas a 2 pages article about Amiga E, and it is on the Amiga Magazin PD disc... See you !!! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!Ra.MsState.Edu!djm2 Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:13:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ssg@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:13:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUk6v-0001jYC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 14:43 PST Received: from Tut.MsState.Edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUjzD-0000AqC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 14:35 PST Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (djm2@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]); by Tut.MsState.Edu using ESMTP (8.6.4/6.5m-FWP); id QAA26058; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:35:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.6.4/6.0c-FWP); id QAA06980; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:35:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199402102235.QAA06980@Ra.MsState.Edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:35:37 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9402082123.1rqe@bkhouse.cts.com> from "nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com" at Feb 8, 94 01:23:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 151 From: Daniel Jr Murrell To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Ahem... Norm, If you get the chance, please remove djm2@ra.msstate.edu from the AmigaE mailing list. I've been trying to get off for months now!! :) Dan From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:15:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sun@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:15:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUoAs-0001PEC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 22:04 EST Received: from bos1d.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUnm6-000037C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 18:38 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H8QGVMBAJ490N44C@delphi.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 21:25:43 EST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 21:25:43 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8QGVMBAJ690N44C@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: More MUI questons I have been trying to use the program MUIbuilder. But have been unable to get the source output of the program to compile. Any Idea's? Eric From donews!crash!mail.msen.com!crandall Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:17:04 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1swa@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:17:04 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUq1e-0001OdC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 00:02 EST Received: from garnet.msen.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUpR5-000029C; Thu, 10 Feb 94 20:24 PST Received: by garnet.msen.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0pUpR0-0013CHC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 23:24 EST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 23:24:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Chad Randall To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Re: iffparse.library >> I've just started using the iffparse.library. >> and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. >> ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? No, not really. Here's a snippet of code from my icon editor: (Sorry for lack of comments. Hopefully this example is straight forward enough to understand.) PROC doloadpalette() HANDLE DEF iff=NIL:PTR TO iffhandle DEF ierror DEF sp=NIL:PTR storedproperty DEF body,size iff:=AllocIFF() iff.stream:=Open(palettename,MODE_OLDFILE) IF (iff.stream) InitIFFasDOS(iff) ELSE Raise(E_FILE) ENDIF ierror:=OpenIFF(iff,IFFF_READ) /* Better error handling */ ierror:=PropChunk(iff,"ILBM","CMAP") /* could be done here! */ ierror:=StopOnExit(iff,"ILBM","FORM")/* Actually, it could be */ ierror:=ParseIFF(iff,IFFPARSE_SCAN) /* improved throughout! */ IF(sp:=FindProp(iff,"ILBM","CMAP")) body:=sp.data size:=sp.size /* This is where you'd handle the chunk. It starts at "body", and has "size" number of bytes. ELSE Raise(E_IFF) /* This just means no "CMAP" chunk was found. */ ENDIF Raise(E_NONE) EXCEPT IF (iff) CloseIFF(iff) IF (iff.stream) THEN Close(iff.stream) FreeIFF(iff) ENDIF IF exception<>E_NONE THEN errormessage(exception) ENDPROC The troubles you are running into might be due to not using the "StopOnExit" function. I could not get this to work without it. The example used here tells ParseIFF to stop when it is leaving the FORM chunk, which normally is the end of the file. Hope this helps, Chad Randall (crandall@garnet.msen.com) From donews!crash!mail.csh.rit.edu!jerry Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:17:31 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1swq@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:17:31 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUqTv-0001PjC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 00:31 EST Received: from nick.csh.rit.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUqGM-00003tC; Thu, 10 Feb 94 21:17 PST Received: from ccimp.csh.rit.edu (ccimp.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.1]) by nick.csh.rit.edu (8.6.3/8.6.3) with ESMTP id AAA13744 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:15:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (jerry@localhost) by ccimp.csh.rit.edu (8.6.3/8.6.3) id AAA22601 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:15:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402110515.AAA22601@ccimp.csh.rit.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:15:25 -0800 In-Reply-To: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) "Devices and volumes" (Feb 9, 2:38am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) From: jerry@mail.csh.rit.edu (Jerry (Watch out for snakes)) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Devices and volumes On Feb 9, 2:38am, Rob Nottage wrote: } Subject: Devices and volumes } > >One other thing I'm stuck on is with a device/volume/assign list. I want to } > >be able to show it similar to the way ASL shows it ie: } > > } > >DEVICENAME: VOLUMENAME: xx% full } > >DEVICE2: VOLUME2: yy% full } > >C: Assign } > >CLIPS: Assign } } > Here's a solution: Get ALL Devices, and then check all VOLUMES ONLY. A } > Device which has a filesystems IS GOING TO HAVE a VOLUME NAME. Just do a } > little cross-checking and baddabing, baddaboom :-) } } Sounds extremely tedious. :-) } } I found a much easier way anyway.. thanks for the reply though. Do tell! -- __ __ "There's nothing like seeing \ oo / sdl7253@cs.rit.edu /// nature on a screaming `--' __/// crotch rocket." _/|_ jerry@mail.csh.rit.edu \\// -Crow T. Robot From donews!crash!comlab.oxford.ac.uk!ecs.oxford.ac.uk!m88jrh Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:20:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1sy8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Feb 94 06:20:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUv9s-0001THC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 05:31 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUumE-00008TC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 02:07 PST Received: from ecs.oxford.ac.uk (ecs.ecs) by comlab.oxford.ac.uk id AA18472; Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:05:25 GMT Received: from ecs.ox.ac.uk (booth11.ecs) by ecs.oxford.ac.uk (4.1/ecs.1) id AA25207; Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:08:39 GMT Received: by ecs.ox.ac.uk (4.1/ecs2.0) id AA15713; Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:07:03 GMT Via: uk.ac.oxford.comlab; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:06:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:07:03 GMT Message-Id: <9402111007.AA15713@booth11.ecs.ox.ac.uk> From: m88jrh@ecs.oxford.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FANTASY ADVENTURE ENGINE Recently, thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com (Jessie) wrote in with his program which seemed to not be working. Well, everything looks fine except a few major string mistakes (E is more like C than BASIC or PASCAL). All lines like: vwalls := '65534000000001457854000000012600000004485069400000'+ '9600000000179200000000006553400000' should be StrCopy()'s (String Copy) like this: StrCopy(vwalls, '65534000000001457854000000012600000004485069400000'+ '9600000000179200000000006553400000', ALL) And in docommand() the assignment in the IF will always be TRUE: IF command := '8' What you really wanted to do is StrCmp() (String Compare): IF StrCmp(command, '8', ALL) If you want to check just the first letter of the command string you could write this instead: IF StrCmp(command, '8', 1) With these changes things should work. --- _____ _ / / | / / / /__/ /__/ Jason R. Hulance / /\ / / |_/ . / \ . / / . From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:35:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t0s@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:35:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV0Js-0001nyC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 11:02 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pUzsO-00007bC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 07:33 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA09506; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:17:11 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA13093; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:16:52 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 16:16:50 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402082123.1rqe@bkhouse.cts.com>; from "nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com" at Feb 8, 94 1:23 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Ahem... Hi > There have been a variety of problems with my feed system in the last > couple of weeks. We think that these are finally fixed and both mail > and news are flowing fine through bkhouse again. > > Unfortunately, the problems caused a number of delays and other oddities > with regard to amigae list mail, and all I can do in response is ask > for your patience. We really are working very hard to keep all the mailing > lists here at bkhouse running as smoothly as possible. > OK, that's good now, I recieve all the mails. But 3 days after... I know the problems you have. I'll be patient :) See you... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:36:44 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t2a@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:36:44 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV2BP-0001jYC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 13:01 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV232-0000N1C; Fri, 11 Feb 94 09:53 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA25009 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:52:49 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDF29C; Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:37:27 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.105587.1351.0CEDF29C@synapse.org> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:29:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: iffparse.library -> Message-ID: -> > -> > I've just started using the iffparse.library. -> > and I'm getting a problem when I parse an IFF file. -> > ParseIFF() returns an error (-5). Anyone encounter this problem? -> -> Yes, I got exactly the same problem, and I know I've seen messages -> from other people who get the same problem with 'E' . -> What a downer.. I really really need to use iffparse.library :-( I know, I'm trying to make an animation player (just for the hell of it), and like would be much nicer if I could get IFFParse to work. I'm currently tinkering with an ILBM viewer that I made, and the amount of code that I originally wrote to read and store the chunks of just one picture was twice the amout needed to have IFFParse do it for me. Could you imagine what I'd have to write to do a simple anim player? Bob Monaghan. From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:37:49 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t3l@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:37:49 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV38X-0001PvC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 14:02 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV32r-0000SNC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:56 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA25686 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:56:38 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDF2A0; Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:58:06 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.105588.1351.0CEDF2A0@synapse.org> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:36:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Types! You should create a list of C to E Typeing equivelents. (As some kind of Glossary?) That would be a real bonus. I'm not really strong on C programming, so when I look at C code to figure out what is going on, Types can really be pretty convusing when trying to make E equivelents. BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m files with IConvert. Needless to say, there are some .i files that don't want to work. (eg. exec/ables.i or exec/exec.i or exec/initializers.i) Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:25 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t5i@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:25 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV7oo-0001PjC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:02 EST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV7fY-0000AIC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 15:53 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06939; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:54:04 -0600 Message-Id: <9402112354.AA06939@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:54:04 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199402100203.VAA05469@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 9, 94 09:03:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 444 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around > the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional > tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made > for a friend) Why don't you make yourself famous and make a complete example and post it to Aminet in /dev/e??? Personally I collect all the examples I can get so when I have a problem I can see how someone else has done it. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:36 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t5o@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:36 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV7or-0001PmC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:02 EST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV7mN-0000GtC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 16:00 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07196; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 18:01:02 -0600 Message-Id: <9402120001.AA07196@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 18:01:02 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199402100353.WAA17369@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 9, 94 10:53:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 551 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Some stuff.. > Well, some announcements, etc.. > I have just uploaded Eformat 1.4 to aminet after having > ferretted out the machine guruing bug. It was Eformat. (I wasn't > initializing the stack pointer.. duh.) So, to fix it, I switched to the YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, thank you, and THANK YOU!!! Goodbye to reboot after formats!!!!! > on some WouterCode, when fixing that, I noticed the stack problem. My > apologies to the person who reported the bug. My fault! No problem!!!! Thanks for fixing it!!!!!!!!! BTW - Yes I AM glad you fixed it. From donews!crash!emh.kadena.af.mil!mckinnej Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t63@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:39:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV9E2-0001PDC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 20:32 EST Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pV8km-0000WSC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 17:02 PST Received: by emh.kadena.af.mil (5.60 pl1/25-eef) id AA00782; Sat, 12 Feb 94 09:51:56 JST Message-Id: <9402120951.AA00782@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:51:46 +0000 (JST) In-Reply-To: <01H8OY3HOZEQ8ZHX49@delphi.com> from "NES@delphi.com" at Feb 9, 94 07:17:35 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 933 From: James Mckinney To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: MUI tools help Hi Eric, > I am having trouble useing the Gadtoolsbox. I can create a window and I > can covert it to e with sourcegen. My problem is..... I need some > examples on how to read/write to the gadgets. Is thier a command like > "getgadinfo" or "putgadinfo"? Not quite sure what you are asking for, but I'll give it a shot. If you are looking for an example of how to interpret and act upon gadget selections, ftp the file "Spotlite.lha". It's in the dev/e directory on the Aminet sites (ftp.wustl.edu is the main site). If you're trying to change the gadget text, I'm not sure if you can do that under gadtools (there are several dissappointing limitations on gagtools gadgets as I've found out over the last few days). You may have to use a regular Intuition gadget. (I could be wrong here. I've been messing with BOOPSI gadgets too and I might have mixed them up. Yet another sign of old age. B-) Later, Jim From donews!crash!fwi.uva.nl!oortmers Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t7d@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVAbH-0001PEC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:00 EST Received: from mail.fwi.uva.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVABJ-00001iC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 18:34 PST Received: from gene.fwi.uva.nl by mail.fwi.uva.nl with SMTP (5.65c/5.1) id AA08159; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 03:33:59 +0100 Received: by gene.fwi.uva.nl id AA16276; Sat Feb 12 03:33:52 1994 Message-Id: <199402120233.AA16276@gene.fwi.uva.nl> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 03:33:52 +0100 Return-Path: X-Organisation: Faculty of Mathematics & Computer Science University of Amsterdam Plantage Muidergracht 24 NL-1018 TV Amsterdam The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 525 5200 X-Telex: 16460 facwn nl X-Fax: +31 20 525 5101 From: oortmers@fwi.uva.nl (Wouter van Oortmerssen (Alfa_Inf92)) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: various [various stuff] -> Will E 3.0 have proper float support? depends on what you call 'proper', but yes, it will have operators that work on floats etc. in the language. -> Does anyone have some good example sources that show how to use -> "|" in E? The only sample program that uses it is 'ReWriteGfx' -> and I can't make heads or tails of its use in that program... "|" was the float convertion operator in <2.1a, and shortly before release I decided I didn't like floats like this in E, so I removed the documentation about floats. Not many people know this, but v2.1 actually has floats implemented, but a bit silly if you ask me. -> Wish List Addendum... -> -No size/element limit on constant structures, lists, arrays.. E is a -> dynamic language, why is there a limit on something so silly? well, yes [] lists and typed list should be able to get longer in the future. If you trouble with the current limits just because you want to have a large amount of data in your program, I might advice to use INT (as statement) or INCBIN or something similar. -> -Real keyword/constant checking! I want to be able to start my -> functions/variables in uppercase if I so desire! (You wouldn't believe the -> problems this is causing with converting Angband to E!) Anything else is -> just cheaping out to keep compiler speed. Come on! This is a false assumption many people have made. Those contrains were introduced into E because I wanted to enforce a common style of identifiers to make sources more readable. infact, with techniques like hashing the compiler uses, the speed difference would not be noticable. -> pound sand up his arse and go to the C mailing list! }:-/ now come on barry! no cursing on this list :-) Be nice to people! Wouter ____ Wouter van Oortmerssen, Wouter@alf.let.uva.nl / __/ "Nobody with a good car needs to be justified" / __/ -Ministry, Jesus built my hotrod /___/ E mailing list: amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:28 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t7m@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:28 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVB5L-0001Q0C; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:31 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVAjN-00003hC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:09 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15552; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:09:38 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA24449; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:09:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:09:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199402120309.WAA24449@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: PROBLEMS....PROBLEMS...PROBLEMS > I got my proc to draw the maps working right. I had to change my info. >from hex to decimal. I also found my function to raise a number to a >power (Shl()). With this I was able to leave out about 60 IF statements. 60 Ifs? My god man. Why did you not just write up a function to do it? (off the top of my head) PROC exponent(num,pow) DEF result=0,a FOR a:=0 TO pow result:=result*result ENDFOR ENDPROC a Unless I've totally gone bonkers that should return num^pow. (this really should be included as an operator in high level languages) >as movement, so that by pressing 8 the character would move towards the >top of the screen. This worked fine the first time I entered an 8, but >when I entered another 8 I got a guru $8000 0003. > Hmm.. well, this information does not help when dealing with a guru. Either post the code, or if you don't want to, email it to me and I'll take a look at it. Most people's E programming bugs are usually just misconceptions about how E works, or how some function works. It's probably something really simple, and thus the hardest kind to spot. > Another question that I have is, how do I set the palette for my screen >and how to give it that 2.0'ish look. I want windows and cons to look the >way they did when I was opening them on the workbench screen. I will use >the colors that I have on my workbench, but I need to know how to set >them on my screen. > Haven't played with screen for a while.. I assume you are using 2.0+? If not, well, kiss the 2.0 look goodbye without a lot of work. I'll lookup how to do it when I get home tonight and post it next time. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t7r@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVB5g-0001W3C; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:32 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVAyA-00009iC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:24 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16282; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:24:54 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA02577; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:24:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:24:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402120324.WAA02577@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: converting .h to .m > >Hello, >A friend of mine has bought himself a registered copy of a BBS programme, >called Xenolink. >with this, he got a few .h files to create 'C' programmes for doors etc. >I've tried to convert these files to .m, but several of them turn outas >files of ONE byte. this obviousely is wrong. >So, can anybody tell me what's going on? am I using the wrong >converter? or is it just an OLD one.. >I could really use your help, because my friend is thinking of deserting to C! >vinny You're probably trying to use pragma2module. It only does the pragma files (which tell a compiler what library has what functions I believe.) P2M will not do any other .h file. However, take heart, as H2E is nearly complete and I will release it within a few days. It will do the normal .h files pretty much perfectly. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t7w@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBYh-0001OkC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 23:02 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVB8I-0000D0C; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:35 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16961; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:35:24 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA08352; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:34:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:34:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199402120334.WAA08352@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) >Yeah.. umm that's all great but you still get that requester when >you try to do something with, for example, DF0: if there is no >disk in there :) I fixed that bit up by getting my task like this. > DirWork, the reigning god of directory utils, brings up a requester when you try to access DF1: or what have you with no disk in drive. It ain't a sin! [Code deleted.] >No nasty requesters if a device is empty! Looks good, but something nags me about illegalities there. Can't see what. Maybe if something else tries to access your window while the winptr is set to -1. I personally try to avoid tinkering with OS structures. My programs live longer that way. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t81@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:41:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBYj-0001sAC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 23:02 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVB9o-0000IEC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:36 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17014; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:36:56 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA09180; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:36:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:36:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402120336.WAA09180@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: C2E >Programmer's rule #1 never ever even GUESS a target date for release >of your program :-) >Just tell 'em it will be ready Wednesday (don't say which Wednesday) > Hey, it just might be! Good rule though. I'll have to remember that. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:42:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t86@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:42:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBYm-0001PuC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 23:02 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBEZ-00006tC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:41 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17397; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:41:53 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA11975; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:41:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:41:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199402120341.WAA11975@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Pointing to gadget >You may be wrong, because in the GadTools chapter of RKM Libraries, where >it talks about Keyboard Equivalent behavior, it says to "use Intuition's >ActivateGadget() call" with Text and Number Entry gadgets. > Hmm. my mistake. Really should bring the rkms with me seeing as I'm answering questions without support. For sure though, the proper way to disable a gadget is with Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA(), and GA_DISABLED. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!tso.uc.EDU!usr1400a Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:42:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t8c@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:42:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBYw-0001OsC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 23:02 EST Received: from ROLL.SAN.UC.EDU by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVBLC-00003jC; Fri, 11 Feb 94 19:48 PST Received: from tso.uc.edu by UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #4918) id <01H8RY2GR8WW924V2N@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU>; Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:46:20 EST Received: by tso.uc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08956; Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:46:52 EST Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:46:52 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <9402120346.AA08956@tso.uc.edu> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: usr1400a@tso.uc.EDU (Carl Jolley) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.COM Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function Bernie, In your message you said (in part): > After a lot of debugging of code that ought to have worked, I > discovered that the Mod function seems to be VERY broken. As we > [ought to] all know, taking an integer mod N should *always* get you > an integer between 0 and n-1. Well, it ain't so in E. A simple > test reveals: > > Modulo: Mod(11,8) = 3 > Modulo: Mod(6,8) = 6 > Modulo: Mod(1,8) = 1 > Modulo: Mod(-4,8) = -4 > Modulo: Mod(-9,8) = -1 > Modulo: Mod(-14,8) = -6 > > Which is clearly broken. In the course of pursuing this, I discovered > that simple division ain't a prize, either: > > Dividing 11 / 8 = 1 > Dividing 6 / 8 = 0 > Dividing 1 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -4 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -9 / 8 = -1 > Dividing -14 / 8 = -1 > > It is astounding to me to try to understand arithmetic in an environment > where: > > (A - B) / B does *NOT* equal (A / B) - 1 Hmm, Bernie, I'm not sure what the last equation (or non-equation) has to to do your assertion that the Mod function is broken. As I recall (it's been a long time since I got my degree in Math) the Mod function involves the sign of the division operation being applied to the absolute value of the result. In any event, I've always used a a working definition of Mod to be the remainder after integral division. It seems correct to me as does the example "integer" division examples. From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:46:32 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1t9h@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:46:32 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVGiF-0001THC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:32 EST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVGhW-0000CxC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 01:31 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <07012-0@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:31:41 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <22704-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:31:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:32:44 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: Thanx On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, Olivier Anh wrote: > Why is l.head:=l+4, for what is this 4 ? > What is the meaning of .tailpred. I know the others items, but this not one. 4 is the size of a pointer. So l+4 is actually a pointer to the Tail field of the List. Memory List Head Node Tail Node ----------------------------------------- l Head Head.Succ - l+4 Tail Head.Pred Tail.Succ <- always NIL l+8 TailPred - Tail.Pred This is how you should think of a list. Even though there are only 3 pointers, there are actually 4, but because 2 of them are always NIL (Head.Pred and Tail.Succ), you can put them in the same memory to save space. So l is a pointer to the Head Node and l+4 is a pointer to the tail node. The Head node's successor is the tail node when the list is empty, hence List.Head:=l+4 > /*-- This is where the string gadget buffer is hidden. --*/ > stringInfo:=stringGadget.specialinfo > stringGadgetValue:=stringInfo.buffer > /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ > > What do you measn with 'hidden' ? It's not really hidden, just that C= buried it rather deep in the gadget structure :-) > Must we always detach the list from the listview gadget before modifying it ? Yes. Otherwise Intuition might try to refresh the gadget using the list while you were messing about with its pointers. That's the disadvantage of a pre-emptive multitasking system :-) Hope this helps, Dave P.S. If you have the RKM Libraries there is a whole chapter on Lists which probably explains them better than I can. +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:13:00 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1taq@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:13:00 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVIYJ-0001mhC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 06:30 EST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVILM-0000TzC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 03:17 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <08479-0@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 11:16:30 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <24735-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 11:15:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 11:17:00 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <5883:77010@fantasyfarm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Bernie Cosell wrote: > After a lot of debugging of code that ought to have worked, I > discovered that the Mod function seems to be VERY broken. As we > [ought to] all know, taking an integer mod N should *always* get you > an integer between 0 and n-1. Well, it ain't so in E. A simple > test reveals: In fact the Mod function is not broken at all. Virtually all mod functions in computer languages work in the fashion you have described. You'll just have to find a workaround if you want a strictly positive answer, I'm afraid. You could try Mod(Mod(a,n)+n,n). Or, if your n is a power of 2, use (a and (n-1)). > Which is clearly broken. In the course of pursuing this, I discovered > that simple division ain't a prize, either: > > Dividing 11 / 8 = 1 > Dividing 6 / 8 = 0 > Dividing 1 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -4 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -9 / 8 = -1 > Dividing -14 / 8 = -1 What answers were you expecting??? > It is astounding to me to try to understand arithmetic in an environment > where: > > (A - B) / B does *NOT* equal (A / B) - 1 Ermm ... actually I think it does. Can you give an example where E does not exhibit this behaviour? Dave +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tb7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVJ49-0001O3C; Sat, 12 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVIkO-0000OEC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 03:42 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA00248 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:42:49 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pVDyi-0003TPC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 14:37 WST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 14:37:19 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <9402041533.AA21028@p232.informatik> from "Olliver Moehreke" at Feb 4, 94 04:33:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 997 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Amiga E bug! (I'm pretty sure.) > |> Ok, this is a bit tricky, but is quite doable. My details may be a > |> bit off, because I don't have the RKMs with me, but here's the gist. > |> First, to avoid having devices you don't like, use the Dos (I believe) > |> call, IsFileSystem(). > > MEGA WARNING !!! > > NEVER USE IsFileSystem('DEVICE:') WHEN YOU HAVE LOCKED THE DOSLIST > FOR READING OR WRITING, BECAUSE YOU WILL GET A MEGA-DEADLOCK... > > The reason is, that IsFileSystem(...) has to load every handler, > that is not already loaded to the system (eg. PRT:). The OS > then has to update the processport-information of the doslist > and tries to lock the doslist too, that is already locked by you. :) Thanks for the warning! I wasn't using IsFileSystem() anyway :) -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tbc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVJ4B-0001wwC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVIkQ-0000DNC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 03:42 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA00263 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:42:51 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pVEFN-0003TPC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 14:54 WST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 14:54:32 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <9402050945.AA02499@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> from "Vincent Platt" at Feb 5, 94 03:45:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2252 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: HELP!!! (With AppIcons) > I'm working on an AppIcon project, and I've run into what I think may be a > bug in E. I'm trying to read the appmessage.arglist[].name. According to No bug in E. A project Im working on here works fine. It can recognize the pathname/filename of any drawer/file icon dropped on it and can tell when it has been double-clicked. > the RKM, the .name part is there, and according to E, it is not. Ok I can Of course it is. Check if the .lock is there first. I don't think you can drop appicons onto appicons. > handle that. I look up the appmessage structure in 'workbench/workbench' > and it says that appmessage.arglist is a LONG. So how the heck are you arglist is a LONG which points to a list of arguments. Step through the list. The C examples show exactly how to do it. use the appmessage.numargs to find how long the list is and use a counter to step trough the list. > WHILE dropcount < 3 > WaitPort(myport) > WHILE appmsg:=GetMsg(myport) > IF appmsg.numargs = 0 > WriteF('User activated the AppIcon.\nA window here would be nice.\n') > ELSEIF appmsg.numargs>0 > WriteF('User dropped \d icons on the AppIcon.\n',appmsg.numargs) > FOR x:= 0 TO appmsg.numargs-1 > dummy1:=appmsg.arglist > dummy2:=dummy1[x] > StrCopy(str,dummy2,ALL) > WriteF('#\d name = \s\n',x+1,str) What the???? appmsg.arglist points to a list of arguments, not a list of names. Add this variable somewhere: argptr:PTR TO wbarg then before this loop you have: argptr:=appmsg.arglist then inside the loop refer to argptr.lock and argptr.name for the lock and name of the icon dropped on your appicon It's in that RKM example I believe. > ENDFOR > ENDIF > ReplyMsg(appmsg) > ENDWHILE > INC dropcount > ENDWHILE -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tbh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:43:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVJ4D-0001OUC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVIkR-0000FjC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 03:42 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA00271 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:42:52 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pVEYt-0003TPC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 15:14 WST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 15:14:42 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <5883:77010@fantasyfarm.com> from "Bernie Cosell" at Feb 9, 94 09:23:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 988 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function > an integer between 0 and n-1. Well, it ain't so in E. A simple > test reveals: > > Modulo: Mod(11,8) = 3 Yep, you found a bug that a lot of us have already seen :-) > Which is clearly broken. In the course of pursuing this, I discovered > that simple division ain't a prize, either: > > Dividing 11 / 8 = 1 > Dividing 6 / 8 = 0 > Dividing 1 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -4 / 8 = 0 > Dividing -9 / 8 = -1 > Dividing -14 / 8 = -1 All that looks correct to me.. are you expecting maybe floating point numbers from integers? > It is astounding to me to try to understand arithmetic in an environment > where: > > (A - B) / B does *NOT* equal (A / B) - 1 > > /Bernie\ Since you aren't using floating point math, what else can you expect? -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:23:50 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1teb@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:23:50 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVMIg-0001PQC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 10:30 EST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVM49-00006SC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 07:15 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23207; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:16:27 -0600 Message-Id: <9402121516.AA23207@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 09:16:27 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <1d.105588.1351.0CEDF2A0@synapse.org> from "Bob Monaghan" at Feb 11, 94 12:36:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 558 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Types! > BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m files > with IConvert. > > Needless to say, there are some .i files that don't want to work. (eg. > exec/ables.i or exec/exec.i or exec/initializers.i) > > Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. This will strip out crap that may confuse iconvert. Then iconvert your new files to .m files. Note that I haven't actually done this myself, but I have heard it works. It's worth looking into at any rate. From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:24:55 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tfi@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:24:55 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVNhW-0001mhC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 12:00 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVNM4-0000SwC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 08:38 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA24008 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 10:37:26 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15560; Sat, 12 Feb 94 10:33:35 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00727; Sat, 12 Feb 94 10:35:14 CST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 10:35:14 CST Message-Id: <9402121635.AA00727@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: re: various ->-> pound sand up his arse and go to the C mailing list! }:-/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ->now come on barry! ^^^^^^^ ->no cursing on this list :-) ^^^ ->Be nice to people! ^^^ -> ^^^ ->Wouter ^^^ ^^^ So right, Wouter, I should not be so impulsive. :-) :-) Besides, you're the one who *posted* that obsenity. Check the "From:" line. :-) :-) :-) -- Barry From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:25:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tge@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 94 01:25:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVOB2-0001pbC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 12:30 EST Received: from bos1b.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVO59-000014C; Sat, 12 Feb 94 09:24 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H8SQJMT7K48Y5JKJ@delphi.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 12:24:24 EST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 12:24:23 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8SQJMT7K68Y5JKJ@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Gadtools examples. Button, Check box Hare are couple of examples of Gadtoolsbox. Useing buttons and check box's. I would like some feedback. 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I know this is the E list, but since False and E were written be the same author, I was wondering if anyone has managed to get FALSE to work on an IBM? I couldn't get it to compile with Turbo C++, and Power C compiled, it, but it wouldn't work right. If anyone managed to get it to work, please send me mail. Rob Lent From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Sun, 13 Feb 94 07:52:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ti0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 94 07:52:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVR0l-0001PlC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 15:32 EST Received: from bos1c.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVQeN-0000G5C; Sat, 12 Feb 94 12:09 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H8SVWKOTLC9JD28W@delphi.com>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 15:06:37 EST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 15:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8SVWKOTLE9JD28W@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: More questons about Gadtools. Thanx Berry for the info. I now able to use the sliders and buttons andd check boxs and cycle gadgets. Now... I need to figure out the getfile gadget. In the gadtoolsbox the Icon for the file button is there. When I convert it to E with srcgen. I seem to loose the file button? Any help on this? Also I have been looking in the RKRM book for how to put strings into text box's. I am lost on that one. Eric BTW I am leaving for Itay on the 19th of Feb. Any amiga E people near Florence... Also will have a layover in Munich and Gatwick(England)... Chow... From donews!crash!UNCA.EDU!JVANRIPER Sun, 13 Feb 94 07:54:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tka@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 94 07:54:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVX9H-0001uvC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 22:05 EST Received: from uncavx by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVWqx-0000HcC; Sat, 12 Feb 94 18:46 PST Received: from UNCA.EDU by UNCA.EDU (PMDF V4.2-15 #5911) id <01H8T9YREOPS8WW8FR@UNCA.EDU>; Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:44:56 EST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:44:56 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8T9YRFRAQ8WW8FR@UNCA.EDU> Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: "Joseph E. Van_Riper III" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! Someone wrote: |> I have fully functional |> tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made |> for a friend) To which someone else wrote: | Why don't you make yourself famous and make a complete example and post it | to Aminet in /dev/e??? Personally I collect all the examples I can get so | when I have a problem I can see how someone else has done it. If you are really interested, look for quip7e.lha (or somesuch) in the aminet directories. It's written in E, includes the source code, and has implemented the reading of tooltypes (although in a semi-nonstandard way... it reads the tooltypes of tool as well as project icons, so you can create various project icons to govern how Quip works). The tooltypes code were a minor modification of Term's code, converted from C to E. Perhaps I should simply upload the code itself to dev/e, so people won't have to bother searching for it... it addresses a number of programming issues that might be of interest (tooltypes, ReadArgs, error-handling, etc). For those who haven't heard me babble about it before, Quip is a fortune cookie program, but it's an extremely ADVANCED fortune cookie program, with some scripting comands and stuff (I intended for it to be useful for BBS sysops). I can't remember exactly which directory Quip wound up in.. but I'll see if I can't find it, and put the source code in the /dev/e directory. - Trey From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:22:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tn2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:22:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVmb8-0001wBC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 14:35 EST Received: from bos3a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVkKl-0000F5C; Sun, 13 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H8U4FEIC8G9EDGK4@delphi.com>; Sun, 13 Feb 1994 12:10:08 EST Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 12:10:08 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8U4FEIC8I9EDGK4@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: examples of gadtoolsbox Hare are couple of examples of Gadtoolsbox. Useing buttons and check box's. I would like some feedback. Since this is my first try at it. Eric begin 644 examples.lzh M'WPM;&@U+:D%``!H"@``C+M+'```"71H96)U='1O;L"E!)9RH^T;:Z,_I+VU MA&ET/Y&E$P[ZQFO^RZ:R4<9QB@RZBE*5ZHZNWAR6];9)8WK.YD^[;*82;(/@ MPCMG>-'P8QC&!I2F,8O@O@BM\%4PD\&$HE#(F0RM'87"5K)?OW[[NDG6[9%? 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(As some kind of >Glossary?) That would be a real bonus. >I'm not really strong on C programming, so when I look at C code to >figure out what is going on, Types can really be pretty convusing when >trying to make E equivelents. > Are you replying to me? Quote! Ah well.. Types are really pretty easy once you get what they're doing.. >BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m files >with IConvert. > I really would convert the .h files myself. I got the last bit of information on C stuff I needed today, so as soon as I implement the last bit of code, H2E will be done. (Yeah, I know, I've said that already.) Of course, for a copy of those includes I could send you a copy damn quick. heh. >Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) Be patient. H2E will solve your troubles. I myself am really amazed at how easy it was and how well it works. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:13 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1trt@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:13 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVuzG-0002SqC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:32 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVukg-00009zC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 20:17 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08945; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:18:05 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA06105; Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:17:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:17:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199402140417.XAA06105@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > >> Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around >> the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional >> tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made >> for a friend) > >Why don't you make yourself famous and make a complete example and post it >to Aminet in /dev/e??? Personally I collect all the examples I can get so >when I have a problem I can see how someone else has done it. > Ok, I brought it with me today. I was going to email it to the person who requested it, but I suppose I can put it up on Aminet. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1try@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVuzK-0001vAC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:32 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVupO-00009hC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 20:22 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA09255; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:22:56 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA08384; Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:22:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:22:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402140422.XAA08384@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: MUI tools help >> I am having trouble useing the Gadtoolsbox. I can create a window and I >> can covert it to e with sourcegen. My problem is..... I need some >> examples on how to read/write to the gadgets. Is thier a command like >> "getgadinfo" or "putgadinfo"? > Gt_SetGadgetAttrsA() sounds like what you're looking for. I take it you are operating without rkms/autodocs? >If you're trying to change the gadget text, I'm not sure if you can do >that under gadtools (there are several dissappointing limitations on >gagtools gadgets as I've found out over the last few days). You may have >to use a regular Intuition gadget. (I could be wrong here. I've been >messing with BOOPSI gadgets too and I might have mixed them up. Yet >another sign of old age. B-) Actually, with some effort, you can contort gadtools into all sorts of neat things. Resizable gadgets are possible. (I've done it.), changing button/gadget text is trivial. To the original asker of the question: Post exactly what you want to do, and any relevant source. It'll aid in getting a useable reply. Anything I could give you right now would be way too vague to be of use. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ts3@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 01:26:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVuzN-0001xUC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:32 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pVuu3-00004GC; Sun, 13 Feb 94 20:27 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA09564; Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:27:46 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA10790; Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:27:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:27:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199402140427.XAA10790@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: various >-> Wish List Addendum... >-> -No size/element limit on constant structures, lists, arrays.. E is a >-> dynamic language, why is there a limit on something so silly? > >well, yes [] lists and typed list should be able to get longer in the >future. If you trouble with the current limits just because you want to >have a large amount of data in your program, I might advice to use INT >(as statement) or INCBIN or something similar. Well, the problem is not in my code, it's in converted C code. C programmers really seem to love massive constant structures. E, however, does not. >This is a false assumption many people have made. Those contrains >were introduced into E because I wanted to enforce a common style of >identifiers to make sources more readable. infact, with techniques like >hashing the compiler uses, the speed difference would not be noticable. Enforce? What is this, basic? Really, this is another thing that is causing my problems with C2e. Not important from a strictly E programming point of view, but hard to deal with for C conversion. I actually kind of like that it's for the sake of readability, but it really is getting in my way. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:41:58 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tu9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:41:58 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW20L-0002StC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:02 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW1uT-0000XyC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 03:56 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa25545; 14 Feb 94 11:55 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:54:23 GMT Message-Id: <17601.9402141154@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: float support Hi Could someone who has been able to use floats easily under the current 2.1b float system provide some examples for use. If possible Wouter could please send me the original float documented info that was in the reference manual. I would like use of floats and the knowledge to use them. I understand that the floating point representation will change with 3.0 but I will change my code if I ever need to recompile. BoomBoom (Mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Standards are great things when there are som many to choose from! From donews!crash!archiduc.irit.fr!vintenat Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:42:07 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tue@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:42:07 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW2SS-0001xHC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:31 EST Received: from archiduc.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW25m-0000EPC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:07 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archiduc.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA00255; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:07:05 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:07:05 GMT Message-Id: <199402141307.NAA00255@archiduc.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: NES@delphi.com Subject: Re: More MUI questons >I have been trying to use the program MUIbuilder. But have been >unable to get the source output of the program to compile. >Any Idea's? First be sure that you have correctly installed it, especially the E generation code module that must be in the modules/ directory. If MUIBuilder is properly installed, design your application, go to the code window, choose the kind of generation you want (the whole apllication code or simply a lonely object code), and finally choose the filename you want for the generated source file in the filerequester. Then, the generated file should be created. If you have more problems, check with SnoopDos and e-mail me the results. One more thing : you must of course choose to generate E code instead of C code in the config window. Lionel From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:43:12 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tus@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:43:12 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW2wx-0002StC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 08:02 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW2t2-0000YfC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:58 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA13483; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:53:20 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA11261; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:53:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 13:53:04 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <1d.105587.1351.0CEDF29C@synapse.org>; from "Bob Monaghan" at Feb 11, 94 12:29 (noon) Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: List View and Intuisup.library Hi all, I try with success to code a list View gadget wit the IntuiSup.library The following code shows how to do. It is not very usefull, but works. There are one button and a list view. Each time you press on the button or an item of the list view, an another item (counter) is added.. Aaaaaaaargggghh, the file is corrupted... WEll, I rewrite some lines.. This code should be ok... I only have problem with AddHead() which cause a GURU :( If some one could explain me why ! Thanx, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - /* IntuiSup & ListView test UNDER WB1.3 */ MODULE 'intuisup', 'graphics/text', 'intuition/intuition', 'intuition/screens', 'libraries/intuisup', 'exec/lists', 'exec/nodes' ENUM NONE,ERR_INTUISUP,ERR_REQTOOLS,ERR_WINDOW,BRK CONST WIDCMP = IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW OR IDCMP_GADGETUP OR IDCMP_GADGETDOWN OR IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE, WFLAGS = WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_WINDOWACTIVE, MAXGADGET = GADGETSIZE*3, RENDERINFO = 0 DEF win : PTR TO window, scr : PTR TO screen, msg : PTR TO intuimessage, loop, ri, glist, class, code, iaddress, speciallink, txtattr,gaddata, list : PTR TO mlh, count PROC main() HANDLE intuisupbase:=OpenLibrary('intuisup.library',0) IF intuisupbase=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_INTUISUP) scr:=NIL ri:=IgetRenderInfo(scr,RENDERINFO) win:=OpenW(0,11,300,120,WIDCMP,WFLAGS,'Test',0,1,NIL) IF win=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_WINDOW) WriteF('1\n') list:=New(SIZEOF mlh) list.head:=list+4 list.tail:=NIL list.tailpred:=list WriteF('2\n') txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gaddata:=[10,0,70,0,100,100,'list view',txtattr,0,0,list, 1,0,10,0, 40, 13,'Button' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 0,0, 0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0] : gadgetdata glist:=IcreateGadgets(ri,gaddata,0,11,NIL) IdisplayGadgets(win,glist) WriteF('3\n') loop:=TRUE REPEAT WaitPort(win.userport) msg:=IgetMsg(win.userport) IF CtrlC() THEN Raise(BRK) class:=msg.class code:=msg.code iaddress:=msg.iaddress speciallink:=msg.speciallink IreplyMsg(msg) SELECT class WriteF('Selection\n') CASE IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW WriteF('CLOSEWINDOW\n') loop:=FALSE CASE ISUP_ID WriteF('ISUP\n') WriteF('code: \d\niadr : \d\nlink : \d \n',code,iaddress,speciallink) dogadget(code) ENDSELECT UNTIL loop=FALSE closeall() EXCEPT closeall() IF exception>0 THEN WriteF('Couldn\at \s !\n',ListItem(['do anything', 'open IntuiSup.library', 'open ReqTools.library', 'open Window', 'continue\n*** User Break'], exception)) ENDPROC PROC dogadget(code) DEF newnode : PTR TO ln, node : PTR TO ln, len,item WriteF('Button \d pressed\nAdding item \d\n',code,count) IsetGadgetAttributes(glist,0,0,0,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,0) INC count item:=String(30) StringF(item,'\d',count) len:=StrLen(item) newnode:=New(SIZEOF ln) newnode.name:=String(len) StrCopy(newnode.name,item,ALL) AddTail(list,newnode) IsetGadgetAttributes(glist,0,0,0,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,list) ENDPROC Well this should be good ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:43:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tvc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:43:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW3QH-0001wDC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 08:33 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW33S-0000P2C; Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:09 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA13637; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:09:38 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA11354; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:09:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 14:09:24 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: ; from "Rob Nottage" at Feb 12, 94 2:37 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Amiga E Bugs... Hi all, Is there anywere a file of all known bug of the Amiga E 2.1b. My club will spread the french archive I translated in to french. So I'm sure I will be asked for bugs.. If there is no file, could all of you send me the bugs YOU know, and Through the ML. So that sound-likes-bugs could be removed. Thanx for help -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:05:32 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tvp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:05:32 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW3sA-0001wcC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:02 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW3VT-0000LkC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 05:38 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA27085 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 07:37:57 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27867; Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:34:04 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01021; Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:35:43 CST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:35:43 CST Message-Id: <9402141335.AA01021@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Thanx *B) Hi, ! Hi, Olivier! *B) Well I must thanx Barry and Kenny : I recieve 5 mails with the gtlv.e ! 3 from *B) Kenny, 2 from Barry. Heh. Sorry, that was during one of the troublesome times of the mailing list. I sent it once and it hung. When I sent it again, 'cause I didn't think it made it...that's how you got two from me. :-) Next time you should mail someone privately because list members have no way of knowing who's going to respond to your request. *B) Note that I can't compile this programme, cause I'm under 1.3.... Isn't Gadtools 1.4 on Aminet a KS1.3-specific library? *B) Well, I have a questoin : *B) in the definition of the object l : *B) *B) PROC initList(l:PTR TO mlh) *B) /*-- Initialize an exec list. --*/ *B) l.head:=l+4 *B) l.tail:=NIL *B) l.tailpred:=l *B) ENDPROC *B) *B) Why is l.head:=l+4, for what is this 4 ? *B) What is the meaning of .tailpred. I know the others items, but this not one. Dave Higginson answered this question sufficiently. l.head will hold the *address* of l.tail, so if/when we can do multiple dereferencing, we can say: IF l.head.succ<>NIL THEN ... /*list not empty*/ For now, I just use: IF l.tailpred<>l THEN ... *B) /*-- This is where the string gadget buffer is hidden. --*/ *B) stringInfo:=stringGadget.specialinfo *B) stringGadgetValue:=stringInfo.buffer *B) /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ *B) *B) What do you measn with 'hidden' ? I meant what I said. Really, it's a joke. I had to dig and dig to find out how to get that info out of the gadget, and I was a little miffed. *B) Must we always detach the list from the listview gadget before modifying it ? Any time. :-) -- Barry From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:06:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tx3@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:06:41 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW4mv-0002TCC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 10:00 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW4de-00001gC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 06:51 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA27677 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 08:50:26 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00297; Mon, 14 Feb 94 08:46:34 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01044; Mon, 14 Feb 94 08:48:13 CST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 08:48:13 CST Message-Id: <9402141448.AA01044@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function From the fingers of Bernie: *B) Modulo: Mod(11,8) = 3 11/8=1, remainder=3 *B) Modulo: Mod(6,8) = 6 6/8=0, remainder=6 *B) Modulo: Mod(-9,8) = -1 -9/8=-1, remainder=-1 *B) Dividing 11 / 8 = 1 *B) Dividing 6 / 8 = 0 *B) Dividing 1 / 8 = 0 *B) Dividing -4 / 8 = 0 *B) Dividing -9 / 8 = -1 *B) Dividing -14 / 8 = -1 This is integer division. *B) (A - B) / B does *NOT* equal (A / B) - 1 This is rarely true in the world of integer division. :-) Trying using the mathfpp.library functions. Later. -- Barry From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:07:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1txo@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:07:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW8tp-0001OpC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:24 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW4yb-00007pC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 07:12 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA27832 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 09:12:06 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00886; Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:08:16 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01061; Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:09:55 CST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:09:55 CST Message-Id: <9402141509.AA01061@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function I forgot to mention, Bernie, that the reference says: [QUOTE] a:=Mod(b,c) Divides 32bit b by 16bit c and returns 16bit modulo a [ENDQUOTE] This will give weird results if c exceeds max-int. Wouter likes it this way, so I made a function that does 32bit modulo: PROC mod(this, bythat) RETURN this-Mul(bythat, Div(this, bythat)) Enjoy. -- Barry From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:08:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1tz9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:08:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW8wv-0002SlC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:27 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pW6ug-00002hC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:16 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA28828 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 11:16:07 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06272; Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:12:15 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01139; Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:13:54 CST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 11:13:54 CST Message-Id: <9402141713.AA01139@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: I`m new here! *B) Perhaps I should simply upload the code itself to dev/e, so people won't have *B) to bother searching for it... it addresses a number of programming issues that Good idea, Trey. *B) I can't remember exactly which directory Quip wound up in.. but I'll see if I *B) can't find it, and put the source code in the /dev/e directory. It's in util/cli. -- Barry From donews!crash!mpoli.fi!ilkka.anttonen Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:12:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u3q@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:12:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWEA9-0001PcC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 20:01 EST Received: from eunet.fi by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWDh2-00008rC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 16:31 PST Received: from mpoli.fi by eunet.fi with UUCP id AA05268 (5.65c+l/IDA-1.4.4 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM); Tue, 15 Feb 1994 02:30:43 +0200 Received: by mpoli (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id FAB6E1; Mon, 14 Feb 94 16:46:21 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 00:26:00 +0200 Organization: Metropoli, Finland From: ilkka.anttonen@mpoli.fi (Ilkka Anttonen) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Fragment of code.. Am> Wouter gave me a doMethod() function for Amiga E which works very Am> well, I'll e-mail it to you tomorrow. Does anybody else want it ? If it isn't too long, maybe you could post it? (A repost every now and then doesn't matter, as everyone reading rec.humor knows..?) ;) P.S. Who is Vicky Robinson? (Yes, I've been reading alt.folklore.* groups lately..) (Someone mail the answer, spare others..) -- ******************************************************************* ** Ilkka Anttonen: Ilkka.Anttonen@mpoli.fi (Oh yes, Finland..) ** * Oliver's Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are * ******************************************************************* * Q-Blue 1.0 [NR] * From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:13:16 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u51@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:13:16 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWH4T-0001wgC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 23:07 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWGiX-0000ADC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 19:44 PST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:44:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940214224449.2043c447@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: FAE update Hi All, Just a few lines to let you know where I am with FAE and what's planned for the near future. Well I've solved most of my problems. I got my screen working, map is drawn, and most movement routines done. When I get the following items done I will release a copy to the list so you can see what I've done so far. 1) finish diag movement checks. 2) check for open or closed doors, only allow movement thru an open door and show door opened or closed That's about it. What I've got planned for the near future is to take the data out of the program and create an external file, this will be the start of being able to create maps larger than 16x16. Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you who write large programs use? Here are some of the little problems that I have had while trying to write FAE. First, I started out with EGUI. This was nice, pick your program, hit the edit button, make your changes or whateverand when youwere through hit a button and compile it, press another button to run your program. This was all good. Then I got jed and started using it with EGUI. Then I started getting DOS errors Object In Use and it wouldn't save the changes I had made. I thought maybe it was jed because I hadn't had those problems using ED. Then I started getting the errors with ED. I also got them if using jed by itself. I had EDS so I thought I would try it. I couldn't even get it to run Then I remebered that I had an update. With the update I got it running. EDS looks nice but I couldn't tell you how it is to use. Every file I have tried to open gives me a status of File Being Watched (or something like that). I had ESEE and thought I would give it a try but I don't have GoldED so I can't even tell you what this program looks like to run. What I've ended up using is MEMACS. I can edit my source, then open a cli screen, compile my code, and run my program. Then end the cli session and I'm right where I was in my editing. This is ok but not exactly what I'd like to use. I guess I'll keep looking till I find something I like and that works. Later Jessie Thorntonj@beast.cs.hh.ab.com From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:13:25 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u56@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:13:25 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWHTi-0001wDC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 23:33 EST Received: from bos3a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWHNH-0000CdC; Mon, 14 Feb 94 20:27 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H8W57N27N48WXIC2@delphi.com>; Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:54:34 EST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:54:34 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8W57N2HAA8WXIC2@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"amigae@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: int to string's {Is there a E command to convert a number to a ASCII string? Also what is the correct way to put an image on a Gadget button? and memory for it. Eric From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:14:51 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u6y@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:14:51 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWLhs-0002SxC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 04:04 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWLRH-0000CyC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 00:47 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa03955; 15 Feb 94 8:45 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 08:44:12 GMT Message-Id: <27587.9402150844@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > Now... I need to figure out the getfile gadget ..... Well there may be a problem there as the getfile gadget is actually a boopsi image incorporated into gadtoolsbox. I dont know much about srcgen but maybe its due to the fact that normally you# have to link your code with the file boopsi.o that comes with gadtoolsbox. So maybe this hasnt been implimented yet into srcgen. The best thing to do is come up with an intuiimage for some getfile gadget and then just create it as a rendered gadget - not using gadtools.library cos that dont support image gadgets. BoomBoom(mexaland) # dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Wed, 16 Feb 94 01:41:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u75@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 01:41:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWM8Z-0001V5C; Tue, 15 Feb 94 04:32 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWLs3-0000CqC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 01:15 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa04137; 15 Feb 94 8:56 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 08:55:24 GMT Message-Id: <27893.9402150855@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: citas I know this probably isnt the right place - but Im after a program that converts a dpaint brush to an intuiimage. I could write something that decrunched it and did it but i dont really want to waste the time if someone else has written something already. I need the program to load the brush in , and then save it out as a binary file telling me the dimensions of the intuiimage it has saved - so that I can incorporate it into my code buy using a standard image object and copying the binary to chip mem after loading it with INCBIN. I want it to strip all the CMAP and BMHD stuff - I just want pure data. BoomBoom (mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Wed, 16 Feb 94 01:42:16 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u7g@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 01:42:16 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWN4Y-0002SlC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 05:32 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWMmx-0000S8C; Tue, 15 Feb 94 02:13 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16333; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:13:21 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA12165; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:13:08 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 11:13:06 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (amiga e mailing list) Subject: List View and IntuiSuip.library Hi all Yesterday I post a source using the IntuiSup.library and a List View gadget. My source was coorupt. Well not exactly : The PC disk drive of this $#%^ HP- UNIX add a sector which doesn't belong to the file, and scratch the end ofd the code. However, reading the file on my Amiga, all is fine. Sooo ? Here it is again ! and its working... I code this source in my GUI for LHA, and it doesn't work. Well not the list but when I re-attch the list to the Gadget. The program stop. Ther is not GURU or alert, other application continues to run... I don't understand. The problem comes from the IsetGadgetAttributes(). I check the gadgetlist, the gadget offset, all of these are correct. I don't know where the non-error comes from ! Is there really nobody who codes with the IntuiSup.library v4.7 ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - /* IntuiSup & ListView test UNDER WB1.3 */ MODULE 'intuisup', 'graphics/text', 'intuition/intuition', 'intuition/screens', 'libraries/intuisup', 'exec/lists', 'exec/nodes' ENUM NONE,ERR_INTUISUP,ERR_REQTOOLS,ERR_WINDOW,BRK CONST WIDCMP = IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW OR IDCMP_GADGETUP OR IDCMP_GADGETDOWN OR IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE, WFLAGS = WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_WINDOWACTIVE, MAXGADGET = GADGETSIZE*3, RENDERINFO = 0 DEF win : PTR TO window, scr : PTR TO screen, msg : PTR TO intuimessage, loop, ri, glist, class, code, iaddress, speciallink, txtattr,gaddata, list : PTR TO mlh, count PROC main() HANDLE intuisupbase:=OpenLibrary('intuisup.library',0) IF intuisupbase=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_INTUISUP) scr:=NIL ri:=IgetRenderInfo(scr,RENDERINFO) win:=OpenW(0,11,300,120,WIDCMP,WFLAGS,'Test',0,1,NIL) IF win=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_WINDOW) WriteF('1\n') list:=New(SIZEOF mlh) list.head:=list+4 list.tail:=NIL list.tailpred:=list WriteF('2\n') txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gaddata:=[10,0,70,0,100,100,'list view',txtattr,0,0,list, 1, 0,10,0, 40, 13,'Button' ,txtattr,0,0,0, 0, 0, 0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0] : gadgetdata glist:=IcreateGadgets(ri,gaddata,0,11,NIL) IdisplayGadgets(win,glist) WriteF('3\n') loop:=TRUE REPEAT WaitPort(win.userport) msg:=IgetMsg(win.userport) IF CtrlC() THEN Raise(BRK) class:=msg.class code:=msg.code iaddress:=msg.iaddress speciallink:=msg.speciallink IreplyMsg(msg) SELECT class WriteF('Selection\n') CASE IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW WriteF('CLOSEWINDOW\n') loop:=FALSE CASE ISUP_ID WriteF('ISUP\n') WriteF('code: \d\niadr : \d\nlink : \d \n',code,iaddress,speciallink) dogadget(code) ENDSELECT UNTIL loop=FALSE closeall() EXCEPT closeall() IF exception>0 THEN WriteF('Couldn\at \s !\n',ListItem(['do anything', 'open IntuiSup.library', 'open ReqTools.library', 'open Window', 'continue\n*** User Break'], exception)) ENDPROC PROC dogadget(code) DEF newnode : PTR TO ln, node : PTR TO ln, len,item WriteF('Button \d pressed\nAdding item \d\n',code,count) IsetGadgetAttributes(glist,0,0,0,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,0) INC count item:=String(30) StringF(item,'\d',count) len:=StrLen(item) node:=list.head IF list.head=list AddHead(list,newnode) ELSE AddTail(list,newnode) ENDIF IsetGadgetAttributes(glist,0,0,0,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,USE_CURRENT_VALUE,list) ENDPROC PROC closeall() /* Note that I'm not sure of this PROC but you */ /* understand want it does :) */ IF ri THEN IfreeRenderInfo(ri) IF intuisupbase THEN CloseLibrary(intuisupbase) IF list THEN Dispose(list) IF win THEN CloseW(win) ENDPROC -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:33:32 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u8x@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:33:32 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWPzK-0001wDC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 08:38 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWPYa-00002XC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 05:11 PST Received: from tanaga.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <00135-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:08:58 +0000 Received: by tanaga.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA20556; Tue, 15 Feb 94 13:08:50 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 13:08:50 GMT Message-Id: <9402151308.AA20556@tanaga.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around > the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional > tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made > for a friend) Could you mail it to me as I would like to see it please. Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:34:00 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1u9g@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:34:00 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWQLk-0001jmC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 09:02 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWQBJ-00003OC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 05:51 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA02492 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 07:50:39 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29175; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:46:46 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01509; Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:48:26 CST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:48:26 CST Message-Id: <9402151348.AA01509@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Amiga E Bugs... *B) Hi all, *B) *B) Is there anywere a file of all known bug of the Amiga E 2.1b. My club will *B) spread the french archive I translated in to french. So I'm sure I will be *B) asked for bugs.. *B) If there is no file, could all of you send me the bugs YOU know, and Through *B) the ML. So that sound-likes-bugs could be removed. *B) Thanx for help Olivier, You should ask Wouter for a list of reported and *confirmed* bugs instead of taking a poll. :-) -- Barry From donews!crash!kbss.bt.co.uk!tonyp Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:35:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ub1@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:35:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWSgR-0001wzC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 11:31 EST Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWSIy-00009JC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 08:07 PST Received: from jasper.kbss.bt.co.uk (actually 132.146.9.31) by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:07:01 +0000 Received: from olivine.kbss.bt.co.uk by jasper.kbss.bt.co.uk; Tue, 15 Feb 94 16:05:23 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 16:05:22 GMT Message-Id: <16149.9402151605@olivine.kbss.bt.co.uk> From: Tony Prichard 293834 To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: SUBSCRIBE tonyp@kbss.bt.co.uk AmigaE HELP AmigaE FAQ AmigaE From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:36:54 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1udc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:36:54 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWWSe-0002TeC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 15:33 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWW8R-0000BpC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 12:12 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa09154; 15 Feb 94 15:38 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 15:37:02 GMT Message-Id: <2658.9402151537@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Re: List View and Intuisup.library It looks to me - although I dont use intuition support library like you might not be detahcing the list from the listview before you alter it. This has been known to be catastrophic with gadtools. BoomBoom (mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:37:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ue1@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:37:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWWu0-0002U9C; Tue, 15 Feb 94 16:01 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWWmF-0000BrC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 12:53 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id PAA02581 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:53:43 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDF593; Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:57:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.107419.1351.0CEDF593@synapse.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:42:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: Types! -> Message-ID: <9402121516.AA23207@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> -> > BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m -> files > with IConvert. -> > -> > Needless to say, there are some .i files that don't want to work. -> (eg. > exec/ables.i or exec/exec.i or exec/initializers.i) -> > -> > Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) -> -> First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. -> This will strip out crap that may confuse iconvert. Then iconvert -> your new files to .m files. Note that I haven't actually done this -> myself, but I have heard it works. It's worth looking into at any -> rate. I'll definately be giving it a try... Bob MOnaghan From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:37:49 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ue6@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:37:49 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWWu1-0001NwC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 16:01 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWWmx-000074C; Tue, 15 Feb 94 12:54 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id PAA02600 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:54:27 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDF598; Tue, 15 Feb 94 15:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.107421.1351.0CEDF598@synapse.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 15:02:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: WB3 includes -> Message-ID: <199402140416.XAA05596@freenet.carleton.ca> -> >You should create a list of C to E Typeing equivelents. (As some -> kind of >Glossary?) That would be a real bonus. -> >I'm not really strong on C programming, so when I look at C code to -> >figure out what is going on, Types can really be pretty convusing -> when >trying to make E equivelents. -> > -> Are you replying to me? Quote! Ah well.. Types are really pretty easy -> once you get what they're doing.. You are using Freenet in Ottawa? Give my system a call (Multimedia BBS 834-6482) If it is down, be patient, It will be up eventually. Weekday, daytimes best.) Anyways, any help with the WB3.1 include convertion would be awfly nice. From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:39:40 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ugk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:39:40 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWb8x-0001PhC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 20:33 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWavC-00000FC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 17:19 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA14417 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 09:19:18 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pWOJm-000TDrC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 19:51 WST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:51:54 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <199402120334.WAA08352@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 11, 94 10:34:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1253 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) > >Yeah.. umm that's all great but you still get that requester when > >you try to do something with, for example, DF0: if there is no > >disk in there :) I fixed that bit up by getting my task like this. > > > DirWork, the reigning god of directory utils, brings up a requester Try Directory Opus. Your god will fall to it's knees. > when you try to access DF1: or what have you with no disk in drive. It > ain't a sin! When you get a device list?? Yucko. > >No nasty requesters if a device is empty! > > Looks good, but something nags me about illegalities there. Can't I got that from the RKM. :-) > see what. Maybe if something else tries to access your window while the > winptr is set to -1. I personally try to avoid tinkering with OS structures. > My programs live longer that way. Like? :-) Just requesters... The only requester likely to pop up during acess to the device list is one asking to insert a disk (as far as I can see) Other stuff can damned well leave my window alone! :) ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!multi!robbage Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:39:49 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ugp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:39:49 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWb8y-0001oUC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 20:33 EST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWavG-0000LnC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 17:19 PST Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA14424 for bkhouse.cts.com!AmigaE; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 09:19:20 +0800 Received: by multi.multiline.com.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pWOVl-000TDrC; Tue, 15 Feb 94 20:04 WST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:04:16 +0800 (WST) In-Reply-To: <01H8SVWKOTLE9JD28W@delphi.com> from "NES@delphi.com" at Feb 12, 94 03:06:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1281 From: robbage@multi.multiline.com.au (Rob Nottage) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > Now... I need to figure out the getfile gadget. In the gadtoolsbox > the Icon for the file button is there. When I convert it to E with > srcgen. I seem to loose the file button? Any help on this? the getfile gadget isn't strictly a gadtools gadget. With SRCGEN, you do get the gadget. It is actually there but it has no imagery, and doesn't give an IDCMP_GADGETUp/DOWN message. Look for a gadget in the gadget list (CreateGadgetA()) that is a GENERIC_KIND gadget. That'll be it. You need to supply and image for it as wellas telling the gadget what sort of activation it should be (IMMEDIATE and/or RELVERIFY) See the RKMs how. > Also I have been looking in the RKRM book for how to put strings into > text box's. I am lost on that one. If you mean TEXT_KIND gadtools gadget then nothing could be easier. Just supply in the gadget's taglist something like this [GTTX_TEXT,'my text',...,...,TAG_DONE] You could also just draw a bevel box and print the text there yourself using Amiga-E's TextF() or intuitions PrintIText() -- ___________________________________ / \ | robbage@multi.multiline.com.au | | Rob Nottage 3:690/662.0@FidoNet | | 41:616/662.0@AmigaNet | \___________________________________/ From donews!crash!unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk!pmygby Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:44:23 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ulp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:44:23 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWk1D-0001x1C; Wed, 16 Feb 94 06:02 EST Received: from jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWjwc-0000WEC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 02:57 PST Received: from unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk by jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16033-0@jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 10:57:13 +0000 Received: from localhost by unicorn.nott.ac.uk (4.1/930628) id AA16465; Wed, 16 Feb 94 10:57:07 GMT Message-Id: <9402161057.AA16465@unicorn.nott.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 10:57:06 +0000 From: pmygby@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: ASlL Hi Last night I had a problem with the Asl library. The RKM suggests you use AllocAslRequest(ASL_FILEREQUEST,[taglist,NIL]) Now I placed a few WriteF's in convenient places only to find that the program was failing with the call below - it was popping up the requester Wait for disk activity to finish Program failed #800000b Reboot or Suspend Ive come across this before and never properly understood what was going off. My call was exactly IF fr:= AllocAslRequest(ASL_FILEREQUESTER,[ASL_HAIL,'Choose an icon', ASL_PATTERN,'#?.info', ASL_FUNCFLAGS,FILF_PATGAD, TAG_DONE]) Where fr was just declared locally as DEF fr:PTR to filerequestr /* nb filrequestr NOT filerequester */ It is here that the program fails. Sorry that Im not able to give you the full code but the disk its on is formatted under kick3.0 and the amigas im using are 1.3. What am I doing wrong? Possible thoughts are 1 .. Should I declare fr as so and give it some space. I though AllocAslRequest got the space for you as you never pass fr as an argument - only to AslRequest after AllocAslRequest returns and this just inst returning at all. 2 .. Do I need to specify the tags in a certain order or maybe specify more tags like ASL_HEIGHT for the height of the file requester window or ASL_WIDTH for the width reqpectively. I thought tags were invented cos they gave the programmer a set of defaults that he could choose to ignore. Any answer would be appreciated. Darren. From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:45:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1umd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:45:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWmKz-0001VzC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 08:30 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWmGV-00006TC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 05:26 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA21261; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:25:10 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA13396; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:25:00 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 14:24:59 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402141335.AA01021@plucky.safb.af.mil>; from "Barry D Wills" at Feb 14, 94 7:35 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Thanx Hi Barry > Heh. Sorry, that was during one of the troublesome times > of the mailing list. I sent it once and it hung. When I > sent it again, 'cause I didn't think it made it...that's Don't matter, I recieve a copy that good ! > how you got two from me. :-) Next time you should mail > someone privately because list members have no way of > knowing who's going to respond to your request. Well, with the new list server, I can have access to the private email address anymore. > Isn't Gadtools 1.4 on Aminet a KS1.3-specific library? Well, I try it, but the name of the library is NOT the same as the 2.0 version... and this library is bugged :( as well as the others ones (asl and iffparse) > I meant what I said. Really, it's a joke. I had to dig and > dig to find out how to get that info out of the gadget, and > I was a little miffed. After a whule, :))))) > > *B) Must we always detach the list from the listview gadget before modifying it ? > > Any time. :-) And I have problem to re attach it on my ListView gadget (no error, no alert, no guru, nothing happens, the programm stop hereand 'wait') Thanx for your help... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:45:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uml@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 01:45:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWmrB-0001wcC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:04 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWmWn-0000BmC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 05:42 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pWmSw-0001KcC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 13:38 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 13:38:54 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 455 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (AmigaE) Subject: Multiple Pointing Just remembered a little problem I had with E a good while back and never really fixed, it was for some folks on the FidoNet E echo, involving AppIcon usage. I used the example from RKM libraries, with coomplete success, except for a line that involved indexing the information for a selected gadget by a number, something vaguely like: appicon[].name appicon[]. How could this king of code be implemented in E? Thanks, Robert From donews!crash!archimed.irit.fr!vintenat Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:41:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uoj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:41:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWp8z-0001mmC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 11:30 EST Received: from archimed.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWokP-0000BIC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 08:05 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archimed.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA04041 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:08:26 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:08:26 GMT Message-Id: <199402161708.RAA04041@archimed.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Fragment of code.. >Am> Wouter gave me a doMethod() function for Amiga E which works very >Am> well, I'll e-mail it to you tomorrow. Does anybody else want it ? > >If it isn't too long, maybe you could post it? (A repost every now and >then doesn't matter, as everyone reading rec.humor knows..?) ;) All right. See below. Lionel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- /* This procedure was given to me by Wouter van Oortmerssen, the Amiga E author. It replaces the DoMethod() function (included in the amiga.lib library) for E users. */ PROC doMethod( obj:PTR TO object, msg:PTR TO msg ) DEF h:PTR TO hook, o:PTR TO object, dispatcher IF obj o := obj-SIZEOF object /* instance data is to negative offset */ h := o.class dispatcher := h.entry /* get dispatcher from hook in iclass */ MOVEA.L h,A0 MOVEA.L msg,A1 MOVEA.L obj,A2 /* probably should use CallHookPkt, but the */ MOVEA.L dispatcher,A3 /* original code (DoMethodA()) doesn't. */ JSR (A3) /* call classDispatcher() */ MOVE.L D0,o RETURN o ENDIF ENDPROC NIL From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:43:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1urf@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:43:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWryG-0001v8C; Wed, 16 Feb 94 14:31 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWraG-0000GYC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 11:06 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA11874 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 13:06:15 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27977; Wed, 16 Feb 94 13:02:21 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00454; Wed, 16 Feb 94 13:04:01 CST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 13:04:01 CST Message-Id: <9402161904.AA00454@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: FAE update From the fingers of Jessie: *B) Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you *B) who write large programs use? EE [problem description deleted] I sympathize. :'-( *B) I guess I'll keep looking till I find something I like and that works. For a simple solution, look into EZ_E v2.0. For a final solution, wait for E v3.0. The Freeware version of EE will be made available at that time. Your patience will pay off. That ain't no boast, it's the bare-assed truth. Hmph. ;-) From donews!crash!UNCA.EDU!JVANRIPER Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:44:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1usj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:44:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWtJK-0001KVC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 12:57 PST Received: from uncavx by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWsVG-0000P8C; Wed, 16 Feb 94 12:05 PST Received: from UNCA.EDU by UNCA.EDU (PMDF V4.2-15 #5911) id <01H8YGSIK7HS90MYZ2@UNCA.EDU>; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:53:08 EST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:53:08 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H8YGSIM30I90MYZ2@UNCA.EDU> Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: "Joseph E. Van_Riper III" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Bug in EC (?) I've got something that I feel is a bug in the EC compilor, although it may already have been addressed. I do not know what the circumstances are that cause it, but I tried to do a comparison against NIL (that is, my code says something like IF blah<>NIL, which I know is redundant, but I'm weird) the compilor gives a Software Error (the 8[0's]3 kind) and freezes up on me. That was the only change I had made in my code, since the last time I had sucessfully compiled it. You can even see the compilor counting up the lines, getting to line 1000 before, bam, guru (and the IF statement is at line 1006). Note, this isn't a matter of MY code bombing when I try to run it.. this is a matter of the compilor itself bombing when I make it compile my source code. If you'd like, Wouter, I can send an uuencoded archive of the source code (in its entirety), as well as the text that appears prior to the bomb, with a recap of what I had done just prior to the fatal compile. - Trey From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:07 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1usv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:07 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWtNG-0002TpC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 16:01 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWt6V-0000QDC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 12:44 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA18898; Wed, 16 Feb 94 15:47:16 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940216140817.2720; 16 Feb 94 15:43:32 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 16 Feb 1994 14:12:48 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac v2.02 From: amonroe@rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update > First, I started out with EGUI. This was nice, pick your program, >... > I had EDS so I thought I would try it. I couldn't even get it to run >... > I had ESEE and thought I would give it a try but I don't have GoldED >... > What I've ended up using is MEMACS. I can edit my source, then Try TDS, It's OK. Quality-wise, TDS is very very high quality. But from ease of use, it has no feedback whatsoever, there's no visual indication of whether or not you really have a project open or what project the current source belongs to. But try it you might like it. Have fun Alan From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ut9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWum1-0001oXC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 17:31 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWukG-00007mC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 14:29 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA04028; Wed, 16 Feb 94 17:29:38 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA21891; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:29:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:29:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199402162229.RAA21891@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update > Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you >who write large programs use? Cygnus ED 3.5 PRO of course. Thanks to Wouter and the wonder of Arexx, I have a nice little programming environ happenning. F1 to compile, F2 to compile and run. Works great. > What I've ended up using is MEMACS. I can edit my source, then >open a cli screen, compile my code, and run my program. Then end >the cli session and I'm right where I was in my editing. This is >ok but not exactly what I'd like to use. Well, it certainly is a time honroed source code editor. Sure isn't fun to use though. Better than Ed I guess. (Ed blows dog.) -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:44 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1utk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:44 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWvFM-0002SdC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 18:01 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWvAX-0000HUC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 14:56 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05712; Wed, 16 Feb 94 17:56:54 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA08831; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:56:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:56:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199402162256.RAA08831@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: citas > >I know this probably isnt the right place - but Im after a program that converts >a dpaint brush to an intuiimage. > I wouldn't mind that myself. I tried to write one, but I ran into inexplicable bugs in iffparse so I gave up. If anyone knopws a good one, please mention it. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!access.digex.net!gladiatr Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uts@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:45:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWvjf-0001ZqC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 18:32 EST Received: from access2.digex.net by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWvJo-0000UIC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 15:06 PST Received: by access2.digex.net id AA18644 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:06:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199402162306.AA18644@access2.digex.net> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:06:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199402120233.AA16276@gene.fwi.uva.nl> from "Wouter van Oortmerssen (Alfa_Inf92)" at Feb 12, 94 03:33:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 659 From: Donald Holman To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Keyboard Intercept I was wondering...is it possible to write a program in E that will intercept key presses? Let me explain, that's kind of vague. What I'd like to do is write a program that runs concurrently with my terminal program and that "intercepts" any keys pressed on the keypad and send whatever I want in its place. Example: The rest of the keyboard works normally. But say I press '0' on the keypad - the program would then intercept the '0' and replace it with the word 'directory' which would then be picked up by the terminal program. It sounds like it should be doable, but I'd like to make sure before I invest the time in it. Thanks. -Donald From donews!crash!emh.kadena.af.mil!mckinnej Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:46:18 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uu6@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:46:18 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWwB7-0002SXC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 19:01 EST Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWvpS-00007tC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 15:38 PST Received: by emh.kadena.af.mil (5.60 pl1/25-eef) id AA11692; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:27:37 JST Message-Id: <9402170827.AA11692@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 08:27:31 +0000 (JST) In-Reply-To: <940214224449.2043c447@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> from "THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com" at Feb 14, 94 10:44:49 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 283 From: James Mckinney To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Editor of choice > Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you > who write large programs use? I use Edge from Inovatronics. It's a pretty new editor. I like it a lot. It uses dictionaries like GoldEd does and does everything I ever wanted an editor to do. Later, Jim From donews!crash!tso.uc.EDU!usr1400a Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:47:00 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uv0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:47:00 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWxat-0001ohC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 20:31 EST Received: from ROLL.SAN.UC.EDU by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pWxPD-0000RsC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 17:19 PST Received: from tso.uc.edu by UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #4918) id <01H8YRF938E89275M4@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU>; Wed, 16 Feb 1994 19:52:09 EST Received: by tso.uc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26291; Wed, 16 Feb 94 19:52:13 EST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 19:52:13 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <9402170052.AA26291@tso.uc.edu> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: usr1400a@tso.uc.EDU (Carl Jolley) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.COM Subject: Re: int to string's > {Is there a E command to convert a number to a ASCII string? > Also what is the correct way to put an image on a Gadget button? > and memory for it. I just want to one of hundreds of E users who are going to answer the part of your question about "number -> ascii string". Since the first public release of E, there has been the StringF function. It is related to the WriteF thusly: instead of a filehandle, the first parameter of a StringF function is an E string. What it does is that using the second parameter as a formatting string it then converts the remaining parameters as specified by the formatting string but instead of then writing the result to the filehandle parameter as in a WriteF, it just puts the output string into the E-string parameter that is the first parameter of the StringF command. Thus to convert a number to a string one could do: StringF(str,'\d',num) As I said before, E has the function, but Wouter has not documented it so that's why you probably don't know about it. I'm not sure if the semantics of the function have changed since 2.0 but as of that version, StringF was an arithmetic valued function. The result of the function was the difference between the maximum length of the string variable and the number of characters that were output by the function to the E-string parameter OR to look at it another way, the result is the number of characters that remain avaiable to be used. Please note that there is no restriction to the format string and thus the StringF function, in addition to being used to output a number as an ascii string (I assume you meant as a decimal number), it could also be used to convert a number to an ascii string that is the hexidecimal representation [ StringF(str,'\h',num) ] or it could be used to do other strange things such as concatconate two (or more) strings: StringF(str_out,'\s\s',str1,str2) It could also be used as a substitute to the StrCopy function: StringF(str_out,'string literal') Maybe the reason Wouter didn't document the StringF function is that it would take to much space to document all the ways it could be used. (:-D) Also, with a StringF function, at least two other E functions would not be needed, i.e. StrAdd and StrCopy. From donews!crash!suburbia.apana.org.au!trax Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:48:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uwm@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:48:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX0sv-0001q2C; Thu, 17 Feb 94 00:02 EST Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX0Xk-0000JCC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 20:40 PST Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA03192 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:37:23 +1100 Received: from suburbia.apana.org.au (root@suburbia.apana.org.au [192.188.107.90]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA25552 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:37:14 +1100 Received: from localhost (trax@localhost) by suburbia.apana.org.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id OAA01168 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:38:07 +1100 Message-Id: <199402170338.OAA01168@suburbia.apana.org.au> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:38:05 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <27893.9402150855@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> from "Darren Parr" at Feb 15, 94 08:55:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 211 From: "Andre Dedio" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: citas Look for a program call CConvert.lha. That will change dpaint brushes to raw data. -- ---------------------------------------- trax@suburbia.apana.org.au was here!!!!! ======================================== From donews!crash!world.std.com!cosell Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:50:25 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1uym@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:50:25 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX3fK-0002VAC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 03:00 EST Received: from relay2.UU.NET by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX3Cb-0000NDC; Wed, 16 Feb 94 23:31 PST Received: from world.std.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwdpm23647; Thu, 17 Feb 94 02:31:08 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA15152; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 02:31:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9402141509.AA01061@plucky.safb.af.mil> (from bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills)) (at Mon, 14 Feb 94 09:09:55 CST) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Content-Length: 2691 Date: Wednesday, 16 February 1994 19:13 EST Organization: Fantasy Farm Fibers Message-Id: <5890:69185@fantasyfarm.com> From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function In <9402141509.AA01061@plucky.safb.af.mil> on Feb 14, Barry D Wills wrote: } I forgot to mention, Bernie, that the reference says: } } [QUOTE] } } a:=Mod(b,c) } } Divides 32bit b by 16bit c and returns 16bit modulo a } } [ENDQUOTE] Right, and in EVERY example you cited in your previous message you carefully [and correctly] used the term "remainder". The fact is that this statement [QUOTE or not] is incorrect... 'modulo' is a perfectly well-defined term [go check a textbook on abstract algebra or group theory or galois fields or the like[*]] and what E implements *ain't* modulo. I wish it _were_, since modulo is a useful arithmetic function to have. [*] For example, the ARexx reference I have here gives the usual simple explanation: "what is called 'modulo arithmetic', or, from its most familiar illustration in everyday life, 'clock arithmetic'. What is the sum of ten and seven? Seventeen? Not on a twelve-hour clock: the answer is five. You could say that adding twelve on a clock is equivalent to adding zero, since it leaves the hands in the same position. ..." } This will give weird results if c exceeds max-int. } Wouter likes it this way, so I made a function that } does 32bit modulo: } } PROC mod(this, bythat) RETURN this-Mul(bythat, Div(this, bythat)) Unfortunately it doesn't. It returns the *remainder*. Not the same as modulo. [actually it would be if EEs, the guys that designed the ALUs on the CPU chips, had even the merest beginning of a clue about how arithmetic works. For a VERY long time I've argued about this with hardware designers... they take the attitude that since *THEY* don't know enough math to be able to tell the difference they figure it doesn't matter, and so CPUs implement all sorts of truly *dumb* conventions when it comes to whats-the-quotient and whats-the-remainder. I've learned to live with that [gritting my teeth, of course]. I'm not as complacent about doing so with "modulo", since there is *no*reason* to make that confusing [and/or pretend that because _you_ don't know what the precise definition of modulo arithmetic is, that there isn't one and so it doesn't matter what you do]. As I suggested, if Wouter just changes the docs to call it "Rem" or some such, my program wouldn't have been any closer-to-working but at least it'd have been clear what is going on. Not a big deal in any scheme of things, but one of my hot-buttons since I've been trying to argue some _basic_ math into hardheaded hardware designers for almost 30 years now.... /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com Fantasy Farm Fibers, Pearisburg, VA (703) 921-2358 From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:05:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v0o@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:05:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8NU-0002VVC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:02 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8Fn-000092C; Thu, 17 Feb 94 04:54 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA25226; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:54:52 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA18675; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:54:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:54:43 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <01H8W57N2HAA8WXIC2@delphi.com>; from "NES@delphi.com" at Feb 14, 94 10:54 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: int to string's Hi Eric ! > > {Is there a E command to convert a number to a ASCII string? > Also what is the correct way to put an image on a Gadget button? > and memory for it. Yep, there is one, I learn from Barry, or Trey,.... It is the StringF() function : DEF l, str[10] : STRING l:=10 StringF(str,'\d',l) WriteF('The string is \s\n',str) ... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:06:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v0w@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:06:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8p7-0002VBC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:31 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8eq-0000IYC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 05:20 PST Received: from atka.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <24899-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:20:19 +0000 Received: by atka.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA25028; Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:20:10 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:20:10 GMT Message-Id: <9402171320.AA25028@atka.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: fd2module I have written a program to convert fd files to E modules. Well in all honesty it is actually just a hack to Wouter's pragma2module so that it reads fd files instead of pragma files. If anybody wants it I could mail it here once I get around to documenting it. Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!johnm Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:06:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v11@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:06:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8p8-0001OAC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:31 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX8g6-0000IYC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 05:22 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pX8cb-0001KeC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:18 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:18:23 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9402121516.AA23207@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> from "Vincent Platt" at Feb 12, 94 09:16:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 520 From: "The Mighty Git" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Types! Vincent Platt, it's time for your spleen flensing! :> :> First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. Maybe I'm mad but don't you just end up with a preprocessed C file? If I'm wrong then tell me how to do it, Coz "sc PPONLY" def not make .i files for me. The____________________________ Mighty/ _________/__/ _______/ / / _________/ / / /__/ /__/__/ Sub\_____________/enius to the last! From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Fri, 18 Feb 94 01:36:06 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v1o@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 01:36:06 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v19@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 17 Feb 94 10:37:30 PST Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 10:37:30 PST Message-Id: <9402171837.1v19@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: <940214224449.2043c447@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com>; (argusnet.amiga.amigae) Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update In argusnet.amiga.amigae, article <940214224449.2043c447@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com>, you wrote: > Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you > who write large programs use? > > What I've ended up using is MEMACS. I can edit my source, then > open a cli screen, compile my code, and run my program. Then end > the cli session and I'm right where I was in my editing. This is > ok but not exactly what I'd like to use. For years now, I've been using MEmacs for my Amiga development, from the OS 1.2 version on my A1000 back in '86 to the version that came with OS 2.1 that I run on my A3000. It doesn't do everything I'd like it to, although I hear that the one that comes with OS 3.X is pretty nice, but it works and works reliably. I try other editors, but I keep coming back to MEmacs. I've also tried all the other editors you mentioned, but I've always found that my idea of a developer's editor and most Amiga author's ideas about them are quite different. I'm probably biased somewhat by my use of Brief as my editor for MS-DOS work, a program I've used for this since it was a beta release from Underware in the early 80's. I wasn't impressed with CygnusEd in the least, though I know that many, many people are. GoldEd is a nice editor, but it has a few oddities that I just can't live with. Most of the keys are redefinable, which is nice, but some of the movement functions don't work in the way that I am used to. I don't know about the current version, but what finally drove me away from GoldEd was its assumption that "end-of-line" meant the last character on the line, not the last character + 1, as most editors do. It drove me nuts. That and GoldEd's general instability. GnuEmacs is a nice system, but I refuse to devote that much disk space to an *editor*. You'd think we were talking about Windows applications, with all this nonsense about needing multiple megabytes just to edit text. Lately I've been toying around with the Twilight Editor, which is part of the Twilight Development System (TDS???.lha on AmiNet). I like it quite a bit, and it seems very configurable. I have, for the most part, been able to get it to act in the way that I want it to, and it comes with AmigaE support built in. It has a project manager that is very nice, and supports E. It looks like this may be the editor that I'll move to. It seems to be well worth its $15 (US) shareware fee. One warning: The demo version of TED available on AmiNet has a 200 line limit on the files it will edit, and this is worth knowing ahead of time (the exact limit isn't stated in the docs, as far as I saw). TED will let you load a file of any size and make changes without any warnings until you try to save it. Of course, since I feel that good programming style precludes more than the occasional file with more than 200 lines, this really isn't a problem. :) I'll register anyway, though, just to support the author. I know what a disappointment this shareware game can be. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rossegat.uji.es!itigso78 Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:22:23 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v2b@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:22:23 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX9lD-0002VbC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:31 EST Received: from pereiii.uji.es by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pX9Ni-00006SC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 06:07 PST Received: from rossegat.uji.es by pereiii.uji.es with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA27213; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:09:28 +0100 Received: by rossegat.uji.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10741; Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:11:37 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:11:37 MET Reply-To: Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] From: itigso78@rossegat.uji.es To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Lists LIST INDEX From donews!crash!unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk!pmygby Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:23:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v3z@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:23:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXBcp-0001vuC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 11:30 EST Received: from jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXBKb-0000TZC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:12 PST Received: from unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk by jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <00289-0@jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:09:31 +0000 Received: from localhost by unicorn.nott.ac.uk (4.1/930628) id AA14868; Thu, 17 Feb 94 16:01:59 GMT Message-Id: <9402171601.AA14868@unicorn.nott.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 16:01:58 +0000 From: pmygby@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: asl difficulties Hello - Here is the full code it crashes at the line with AllocAslRequest() in I would appreciate it if someone can handle this and tell me whats wrong with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODULE 'libraries/asl','asl','utility/tagitem' PROC request() DEF fr,fl,aslbase aslbase := OpenLibrary('asl.library',37) IF aslbase fr := AllocAslRequest(ASL_FILEREQUEST,[ASL_HAIL,'Choose an Icon',TAG_DONE]) IF fr fl := AslRequest(fr,NIL) ENDIF IF fl THEN RETURN fr WriteF('Fatal Error with requester!!\n') CloseLibrary(aslbase) ELSE WriteF('Couldnt open asl.library.\n') ENDIF CleanUp(5) ENDPROC PROC main() DEF filereq:PTR TO filerequestr filereq := request() IF filereq THEN WriteF('well you picked one\n') CleanUp(0) ENDPROC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Darren. From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:24:03 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v48@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:24:03 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXC7E-0002VRC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 12:02 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXBwV-0000n3C; Thu, 17 Feb 94 08:51 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa02329; 17 Feb 94 15:31 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:30:49 GMT Message-Id: <651.9402171530@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Re: FAE update A Very good one to try is TDS - The twilight Development system This program suits all sort of needs for compilers which are called thro the CLI In fact its excellent!! BoomBoom (mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:24:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v4j@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 06:24:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXCZs-0002VRC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 12:31 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXCJs-00008xC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:15 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa14998; 17 Feb 94 16:55 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 16:54:59 GMT Message-Id: <2122.9402171654@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com, problems@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: asl Hello - Here is the full code it crashes at the line with AllocAslRequest() in I would appreciate it if someone can handle this and tell me whats wrong with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODULE 'libraries/asl','asl','utility/tagitem' PROC request() DEF fr,fl,aslbase aslbase := OpenLibrary('asl.library',37) IF aslbase fr := AllocAslRequest(ASL_FILEREQUEST,[ASL_HAIL,'Choose an Icon',TAG_DONE]) IF fr fl := AslRequest(fr,NIL) ENDIF IF fl THEN RETURN fr WriteF('Fatal Error with requester!!\n') CloseLibrary(aslbase) ELSE WriteF('Couldnt open asl.library.\n') ENDIF CleanUp(5) ENDPROC PROC main() DEF filereq:PTR TO filerequestr filereq := request() IF filereq THEN WriteF('well you picked one\n') CleanUp(0) ENDPROC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Darren. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v7e@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXIFw-0002VFC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:35 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXHNk-0000DtC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 14:39 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17335; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:39:55 -0600 Message-Id: <9402172239.AA17335@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:39:55 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Rob Nottage" at Feb 15, 94 07:51:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 395 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) > > DirWork, the reigning god of directory utils, brings up a requester > > Try Directory Opus. Your god will fall to it's knees. Yeah it would: from laughing. DirOpus is such a pig!!! I can handle a few inconveniences when it comes to the difference between DirWork and DirOpus. I must admit, DirOpus is nice. However it's such a speed and memory pig that it's not even worth my time. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:30 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v7m@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:30 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXIGF-0002V5C; Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:35 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXHgr-0000GrC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 14:59 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18710; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:00:25 -0600 Message-Id: <9402172300.AA18710@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:00:25 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Rob Nottage" at Feb 15, 94 08:04:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 363 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > Now... I need to figure out the getfile gadget. In the gadtoolsbox > the Icon for the file button is there. When I convert it to E with > srcgen. I seem to loose the file button? Any help on this? Instead of using a getfile gadget (generic gadget) I just use a button just big enough to hold a character. In PPI I used a button with '*' inside of it. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1v7r@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:21:41 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXIGG-0002VHC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:36 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXHhU-00005dC; Thu, 17 Feb 94 15:00 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18763; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:01:04 -0600 Message-Id: <9402172301.AA18763@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:01:04 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Rob Nottage" at Feb 15, 94 08:04:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 77 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools Err... scratch that. It wasn't PPI. It's another one I'm working on now. From donews!crash!teesside.ac.uk!A.Kennedy Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:13 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vbd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:13 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXS1i-0002VdC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 05:01 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXRnM-0000HTC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 01:46 PST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by tees.ac.uk; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:46:15 GMT Received: from kiki (kiki-r.tees) by scorch; Fri, 18 Feb 94 09:48:29 GMT Via: uk.ac.teesside; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:46:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 09:48:18 GMT Message-Id: <18707.9402180948@kiki> From: "A.J." Kennedy To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: v39 .m's -> > BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m -> files > with IConvert. -> > -> > Needless to say, there are some .i files that don't want to work. -> (eg. > exec/ables.i or exec/exec.i or exec/initializers.i) -> > -> > Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) -> -> First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. -> This will strip out crap that may confuse iconvert. Then iconvert -> your new files to .m files. Note that I haven't actually done this -> myself, but I have heard it works. It's worth looking into at any -> rate. Is/has anyone been able to do this? If so, are they going to post the 3.1 .m files to this list, or make them available for others? Apart from HowToCode 7, are there any other docs on v39+? I've got the autodocs for v40 - but they only cover the new libraries for the cd32... Alex From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vbu@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTtK-0002VQC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:01 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTW3-0000KxC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 03:37 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca ([134.117.1.25]) by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22137; Thu, 17 Feb 94 23:25:00 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA20587; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:24:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:24:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199402180424.XAA20587@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! >> Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around >> the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional >> tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made >> for a friend) > >Could you mail it to me as I would like to see it please. > Well, it's up on aminet now, but if you don't have ftp, I can mail it. Do you? -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vbz@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTtL-0001jmC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:01 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTXc-0000alC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 03:38 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca ([134.117.1.25]) by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA23103; Thu, 17 Feb 94 23:37:59 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA28320; Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:37:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:37:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402180437.XAA28320@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) >> DirWork, the reigning god of directory utils, brings up a requester > >Try Directory Opus. Your god will fall to it's knees. I have DirOpus 4.01. Not only does the stupid thing take ~1 meg of memory, it crashes under 3.0! Plus, it's ugly as hell! What crap. Damn program is written in Cando. Crap. >When you get a device list?? Yucko. Hey, IsFileSystem. >Like? :-) Just requesters... The only requester likely to pop Like what programs? Like Dirj (most importantly.), Like Eformat. Like Sampex. Like Pyromon. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!stack.urc.tue.nl!leon Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vc4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:40:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTtM-0002VZC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:01 EST Received: from mailhost.tue.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXTaE-00006PC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 03:41 PST Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl by mailhost.tue.nl with SMTP id AA05213 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:41:10 +0100 Received: from blade.stack.urc.tue.nl by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (4.1/1.53) id AA18167; Fri, 18 Feb 94 12:40:23 +0100 Received: from localhost (leon@localhost) by blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.5/8.6.4) id MAA12579 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:40:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199402181140.MAA12579@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 12:40:26 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <940214224449.2043c447@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> from "THORNTONJ@beast.cs.hh.ab.com" at Feb 14, 94 10:44:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 554 From: leon@stack.urc.tue.nl (Leon Woestenberg) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update > > Hi All, > > Just a few lines to let you know where I am with FAE and what's > planned for the near future. > > I had ESEE and thought I would give it a try but I don't have GoldED > so I can't even tell you what this program looks like to run. > GoldED is on Aminet, most probably in the util/edit dir. Look for ged096.lha or something similar. Then use it with ESEE and smile. > I guess I'll keep looking till I find something I like and that works. > -- Intel Outside, Intuition Inside... Leon Woestenberg (leon@stack.urc.tue.nl) -- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Sat, 19 Feb 94 01:34:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vd2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 01:34:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXA1-0001o0C; Fri, 18 Feb 94 10:30 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXWkS-0000D5C; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:04 PST Received: from rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA29794; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:04:00 +0100 Received: by rbhp47.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA15200; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:03:53 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 16:03:52 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <01H8YGSIM30I90MYZ2@UNCA.EDU>; from "Joseph E. Van_Riper III" at Feb 16, 94 2:53 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Bug in EC (?) > > I do not know what the circumstances are that cause it, but I tried to do a > comparison against NIL (that is, my code says something like IF blah<>NIL, > which I know is redundant, but I'm weird) the compilor gives a Software Error > (the 8[0's]3 kind) and freezes up on me. > > That was the only change I had made in my code, since the last time I had > sucessfully compiled it. > > You can even see the compilor counting up the lines, getting to line 1000 > before, bam, guru (and the IF statement is at line 1006). > Well, I'm coding a GUI. My code has more than 1500 lines.. I never had a GURU or something like that (I don't consider : error while re-alloacting as an error : I only have 1 mega bytes.. Strange ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Sat, 19 Feb 94 01:34:42 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vdf@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 01:34:42 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXeJ-0001xJC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:01 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXN0-0000TpC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:43 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA23036 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:43:17 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09390; Fri, 18 Feb 94 09:39:22 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01549; Fri, 18 Feb 94 09:41:01 CST Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 09:41:01 CST Message-Id: <9402181541.AA01549@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Dev Tools and E (was "Re: FAE update") Alan says: *B) Try TDS, It's OK. *B) Quality-wise, TDS is very very high quality. *B) But from ease of use, it has no feedback whatsoever, there's no *B) visual indication of whether or not you really have a project open *B) or what project the current source belongs to. *B) But try it you might like it. No, thanks. I use EE exclusively now. If I were using another language at all, I might try another dev tool, but I'm not. EE is designed expressly for E. I'm using EE to develop EE in E, so it's getting a lot of testing as well. My advice to you is don't waste yer money in a hurry on some generic development tool. If you're serious about E, wait for the Freeware release of EE. Then you have my blessing to squander your cash, since it will be an informed decision. :-) :-) EE will have some overlapping of functionality with EDS, but they should be compatible once EE incorporates ARexx, so you EDS-lovers out there can still enjoy EDS's comfy environment. As Mark Langston might say: "Other development tools soon get soggy in milk..." Sorry about the lengthy plug for EE. I figgered it's E news that most will be thankful for later on. If not, then I'm a lot more out of touch with reality than I suspected. :-) :-) Later. -- Barry From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:29 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vdk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:29 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXeK-0001vPC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:01 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXRP-0000EJC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:48 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24736; Fri, 18 Feb 94 10:51:33 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940218090812.3104; 18 Feb 94 10:47:34 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 18 Feb 94 09:08:01 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: The Magic 8 Ball, or how to use AreaEllipse... Here's my wonderful (yeah right :^) ) Magic 8 Ball. It's really simple. Ask a question, click on the ball. :^) And it shows the right (I hope) way to draw circles in a window on the workbench screen. If there's any glaring logical errors in the program flow please tell me, I mean it runs and all, but I haven't torture tested it :^) Oh, you need times 18 in fonts: Have fun Alan MODULE 'intuition/intuition' MODULE 'graphics/rastport' MODULE 'graphics/text' MODULE 'diskfont' PROC main() DEF fortune, class DEF eightwin:PTR TO window DEF arinf:PTR TO areainfo DEF artmpras:PTR TO tmpras DEF arcoords[60]:ARRAY DEF armem DEF myrast:PTR TO rastport DEF myitext:PTR TO intuitext DEF mytextattr:PTR TO textattr DEF myfont:PTR TO tf IF diskfontbase := OpenLibrary('diskfont.library',36) mytextattr := ['times.font',18,0,1]:textattr myfont := OpenDiskFont(mytextattr) CloseLibrary(diskfontbase) ENDIF Rnd(-VbeamPos()) IF eightwin := OpenW(0,0,200,210, (IDCMP_MOUSEBUTTONS OR IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW), (WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_ACTIVATE), 'Magic 8 Ball',0,1,0) fortune := ['Cannot predict now', 'Better not tell you now', 'Reply hazy try again', 'Concentrate & ask again', 'Ask again later', 'My sources say no', 'Outlook not so good', 'My reply is no', 'Don''t count on it', 'Very doubtful', 'No', 'It is certain', 'Signs point to yes', 'Most likely', 'It is decidedly so', 'Outlook good', 'Yes, definitely', 'As I see it, yes', 'You may rely on it', 'Yes'] arinf := New(SIZEOF areainfo) artmpras := New(SIZEOF tmpras) myrast := stdrast IF armem := AllocRaster(eightwin.width, eightwin.height) InitTmpRas(artmpras, armem, 5000) InitArea(arinf, arcoords, 6) myrast.tmpras := artmpras myrast.areainfo := arinf SetAPen(stdrast,1) SetBPen(stdrast,0) /*SetOPen(stdrast,4)*/ /*myrast.aolpen := 7 Neither of these seem to work */ AreaMove(stdrast,100,100) AreaEllipse(stdrast,100,110,92,92) AreaEnd(stdrast) IF myfont<>0 THEN SetFont(stdrast,myfont) Colour(7,1) myitext := [7,1,RP_JAM2,NIL,103,mytextattr,NIL,0]:intuitext WHILE (class := WaitIMessage(eightwin)) <> IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW IF (class=IDCMP_MOUSEBUTTONS) AND (MsgCode()=SELECTUP) /*TextF(46,108,'\s',ListItem(fortune,(Rnd(8))) )*/ myitext.itext := ListItem(fortune,(Rnd(20))) myitext.leftedge := 100-(IntuiTextLength(myitext)/2) PrintIText(myrast, myitext, 0, 0) Delay(75) Box(9,94,190,120,1) ENDIF ENDWHILE FreeRaster(armem, eightwin.width, eightwin.height) ELSE TextF(70,100,'No mem for circle drawing!') Delay(75) ENDIF IF myfont THEN CloseFont(myfont) CloseW(eightwin) ENDIF CleanUp(0) ENDPROC From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:42 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vdp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:42 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXeL-0001jmC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:01 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXRu-00007hC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 07:49 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24740; Fri, 18 Feb 94 10:52:09 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940218091205.3456; 18 Feb 94 10:48:12 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 18 Feb 94 09:11:49 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Starfield Here's a little program for fun. It seems to be bugged in that one of stars goes backwards, but maybe you'll have some fun with it anyway. Have fun Alan MODULE 'intuition/intuition' CONST NUMSTARS=200 OBJECT point x y z s ENDOBJECT DEF star[NUMSTARS]:ARRAY OF point DEF loop,x,y DEF d=180 PROC main() DEF bouncewin:PTR TO window DEF port, mes:PTR TO intuimessage IF bouncewin := OpenW(0,0,400,200, (IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW), (WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_ACTIVATE), 'StarField',0,1,0) Box(0,0,400,200,1) Rnd(-VbeamPos()) port := bouncewin.userport FOR loop := 1 TO NUMSTARS star[loop].x := Rnd(400) - 200 star[loop].y := Rnd(200) - 100 star[loop].z := Rnd(200) - 500 star[loop].s := /*Rnd(4) +*/ 1 ENDFOR /*TextF(20,20,'x \d',star[1].x)*/ IF (mes := GetMsg(port))=NIL REPEAT FOR loop := 1 TO NUMSTARS x := ((star[loop].x*d)/star[loop].z) + 200 y := ((star[loop].y*d)/star[loop].z) + 100 Plot(x,y,1) ENDFOR FOR loop := 1 TO NUMSTARS x := star[loop].z + star[loop].s IF (x>=-2) THEN x := x - 200 star[loop].z := x ENDFOR FOR loop := 1 TO NUMSTARS x := ((star[loop].x*d)/star[loop].z) + 200 y := ((star[loop].y*d)/star[loop].z) + 100 Plot(x,y,7) ENDFOR WaitTOF() /*WaitTOF()*/ UNTIL (mes := GetMsg(port))<>NIL ENDIF ReplyMsg(mes) CloseW(bouncewin) ENDIF CleanUp(0) ENDPROC From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!johnm Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:55 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vdv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 09:59:55 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXY6S-0001mtC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:30 EST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXgK-0000YaC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 08:03 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pXXcP-0001L1C; Fri, 18 Feb 94 15:59 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:59:48 +462004312 (GMT+4620043:12) In-Reply-To: <199402162229.RAA21891@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 16, 94 05:29:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 660 From: "The Mighty Git" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update ao443@freenet.carleton.ca, it's time for your daily spleen flensing! :> :> > Now a question, not concerning FAE, what editor do those of you :> >who write large programs use? :> Cygnus ED 3.5 PRO of course. Thanks to Wouter and the wonder of :> Arexx, I have a nice little programming environ happenning. F1 to compile, :> F2 to compile and run. Works great. Me too. All I need now is for F3 to write my proggies..... The____________________________ Mighty/ _________/__/ _______/ / / _________/ / / /__/ / / / \_____________/__/__/ From donews!crash!rcbins.mu.wvnet.edu!AMONROE Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:00:06 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ve0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:00:06 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXY6Z-0001xQC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:31 EST Received: from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXXmb-0000JYC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 08:10 PST Received: by byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24789; Fri, 18 Feb 94 11:13:26 -0500 Received: From RCBINS/WORKQUEUE by bins00.mu.wvnet.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940218093513.3808; 18 Feb 94 11:09:27 +0500 Message-Id: Date: 18 Feb 94 09:34:56 EST Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). From: "R. Alan Monroe" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Bouncing Lines program Another fun program... MODULE 'intuition/intuition' OBJECT point x y a b ENDOBJECT DEF old:point DEF new:point PROC main() DEF class, count DEF bouncewin:PTR TO window DEF dx=3, dy=4, da=5, db=6 DEF port, mes:PTR TO intuimessage old := [100,100,130,130] new := [0,0,0,0] IF bouncewin := OpenW(0,0,200,200, (IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW), (WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_ACTIVATE), 'Bouncing Lines',0,1,0) port := bouncewin.userport /* WriteF('Borderleft = \d\n', bouncewin.borderleft) WriteF('Borderright = \d\n', bouncewin.borderright) */ IF (mes := GetMsg(port))=NIL REPEAT IF (old.x+dx>(199-bouncewin.borderright)) OR (old.x+dx(199-bouncewin.borderbottom)) OR (old.y+dy(199-bouncewin.borderright)) OR (old.a+da(199-bouncewin.borderbottom)) OR (old.b+dbNIL ENDIF ReplyMsg(mes) CloseW(bouncewin) ENDIF CleanUp(0) ENDPROC From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:02:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vgm@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:02:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXehd-00021yC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 18:33 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXd7M-0000JTC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 13:52 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA25470 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:51:34 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11289; Fri, 18 Feb 94 15:47:39 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01661; Fri, 18 Feb 94 15:49:19 CST Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 15:49:19 CST Message-Id: <9402182149.AA01661@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function *B) Right, and in EVERY example you cited in your previous message you *B) carefully [and correctly] used the term "remainder". The fact is *B) that this statement [QUOTE or not] is incorrect... 'modulo' is a *B) perfectly well-defined term [go check a textbook on abstract algebra Guess I'll have to in order to see just what you mean, Bernie. Every computer language I've dealt with, from Ada to Pascal to E to C to BASIC all use the Mod() function in the same way. It seems to be a prevalent convention, regardless of it's origin and/or any similarity to another term in another realm of operation. Sounds from your example like: WriteF('time=12: 15 hours later it's \d\n', Mod(15, 12)) writes: time=12: 15 hours later it's 3 I still don't see it. Mod(12,12) = 0, just like the example. *B) } This will give weird results if c exceeds max-int. *B) } Wouter likes it this way, so I made a function that *B) } does 32bit modulo: *B) } *B) } PROC mod(this, bythat) RETURN this-Mul(bythat, Div(this, bythat)) *B) *B) Unfortunately it doesn't. It returns the *remainder*. Not the same By any definition I am familiar with it does. You better hurry up and edumuhcate us before Wouter releases a Compiler Authoring Tutorial and suddenly a hundred other languages arise, all with a Mod function or operator that performs against your expectations. :-D Ahem, sorry. I couldn't resist the opportunity. :-) *B) it doesn't matter what you do]. As I suggested, if Wouter just *B) changes the docs to call it "Rem" or some such, my program wouldn't *B) have been any closer-to-working but at least it'd have been clear *B) what is going on. *B) *B) Not a big deal in any scheme of things, but one of my hot-buttons since Heh, kinda like me and tail-gaters. }:-( *B) I've been trying to argue some _basic_ math into hardheaded hardware *B) designers for almost 30 years now.... Preseverence! Changing tradition, nearly impossible sometimes. -- Barry From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:04:21 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1viv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 10:04:21 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXiRG-0001NPC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 22:33 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXiBh-0000mIC; Fri, 18 Feb 94 19:17 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20741; Fri, 18 Feb 94 22:17:27 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA21766; Fri, 18 Feb 1994 22:16:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 22:16:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199402190316.WAA21766@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Keyboard Intercept >I was wondering...is it possible to write a program in E that will >intercept key presses? Let me explain, that's kind of vague. What I'd >like to do is write a program that runs concurrently with my terminal >program and that "intercepts" any keys pressed on the keypad and send >whatever I want in its place. Example: The rest of the keyboard works >normally. But say I press '0' on the keypad - the program would then >intercept the '0' and replace it with the word 'directory' which would >then be picked up by the terminal program. > Not only doable, it's quite easy. Are you sure you want to invest the time writing it? There are many PD commodities out there that do that sort of thing. Almost every mouse accesory commodity does. Yak, Mach, ClockDJ, etc.. If you really really want to write your own however, here's a start: Grab E_Commodity.lha off of aminet. It's an example commodity that monitors the keyboard and redirects the output to stdio. This commodity can be modified with some work to produce that effect. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Sun, 20 Feb 94 01:43:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vln@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 20 Feb 94 01:43:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vle@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 19 Feb 94 11:27:30 PST Date: Sat, 19 Feb 94 11:27:30 PST Message-Id: <9402191927.1vle@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: ; (argusnet.amiga.amigae) Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Thanx In argusnet.amiga.amigae, article , you wrote: > Hi Barry > > > how you got two from me. :-) Next time you should mail > > someone privately because list members have no way of > > knowing who's going to respond to your request. > Well, with the new list server, I can have access to the private email address > anymore. The orginal sender's address is in the header in the at least one of the fields, so you do have access to their email address. What happens with the server software is that the Reply-To header is set to the list so that pressing 'R' (or whatever you press to reply to mail) will automatically set up amigae@bkhouse.cts.com as the default To address. Depending on your mail software, there are many ways around that, unless your site is banging up the headers and losing the original address. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!brunel.ac.uk!cs91pps2 Sun, 20 Feb 94 14:46:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vn7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 20 Feb 94 14:46:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXyJn-0002VJC; Sat, 19 Feb 94 15:30 EST Received: from sirius.brunel.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pXxzP-00003CC; Sat, 19 Feb 94 12:09 PST Received: from molnir.brunel.ac.uk by sirius.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <24695-0@sirius.brunel.ac.uk>; Sat, 19 Feb 1994 20:09:09 +0000 Message-Id: <29040.9402192008@molnir.brunel.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 20:08:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 53 From: Paul Smart To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: subscribe Please subscribe me. Paul (cs91pps2@brunel.ac.uk) From bkhouse!nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Mon, 21 Feb 94 00:58:50 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vqd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 21 Feb 94 00:58:50 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vpp@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 20 Feb 94 16:21:57 PST Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 16:21:57 PST Message-Id: <9402210021.1vpp@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: <199402180437.XAA28320@freenet.carleton.ca>; (argusnet.amiga.amigae) Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) In argusnet.amiga.amigae, article <199402180437.XAA28320@freenet.carleton.ca>, you wrote: > >> DirWork, the reigning god of directory utils, brings up a requester > > > >Try Directory Opus. Your god will fall to it's knees. > I have DirOpus 4.01. Not only does the stupid thing take ~1 meg of > memory, it crashes under 3.0! Plus, it's ugly as hell! What crap. Damn > program is written in Cando. Crap. > > >When you get a device list?? Yucko. > Hey, IsFileSystem. > > >Like? :-) Just requesters... The only requester likely to pop > Like what programs? Like Dirj (most importantly.), Like Eformat. > Like Sampex. Like Pyromon. Folks, Do you think we can stay on the subject of E for the list, please? This discussion could easily be carried on via private email or on the USENET newsgroup comp.sys.amiga.applications. Not that it isn't interesting, but it's not what the list is about. Thanks! Norm. BTW: If anyone needs a copy of the posting guidelines for the AmigaE list, just let me know at amigae-admin@bkhouse.cts.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!postoffice.utas.edu.au!t_little Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:16:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vsi@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:16:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYQRy-0001PuC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 21:32 EST Received: from bruny.cc.utas.edu.au by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYPz6-0000IEC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:02 PST Received: from localhost (t_little@localhost) by bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA25833 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:02:48 +1100 Message-Id: <199402210202.NAA25833@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 13:02:47 EST In-Reply-To: <199402162229.RAA21891@freenet.carleton.ca>; from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 16, 94 5:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] From: Timothy Little To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE me from this mailing list, please. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:17:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vsx@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:17:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYQvz-0001opC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 22:03 EST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYQbM-0000aqC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:42 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18631; Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:43:30 -0600 Message-Id: <9402210243.AA18631@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:43:30 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "The Mighty Git" at Feb 17, 94 01:18:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 372 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Types! > > Vincent Platt, it's time for your spleen flensing! > :> > :> First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. > > Maybe I'm mad but don't you just end up with a preprocessed C file? If > I'm wrong then tell me how to do it, Coz "sc PPONLY" def not make .i > files for me. Hey, I _TOLD_ you that I had only heard about it, and not tried it. From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:17:36 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vtd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:17:36 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYSIl-0002VJC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 23:31 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYRxg-0000EHC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 20:09 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA19261; Sun, 20 Feb 94 23:10:02 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA03528; Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:09:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:09:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199402210409.XAA03528@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) >> Try Directory Opus. Your god will fall to it's knees. > >Yeah it would: from laughing. DirOpus is such a pig!!! I can handle a >few inconveniences when it comes to the difference between DirWork and >DirOpus. I must admit, DirOpus is nice. However it's such a speed and >memory pig that it's not even worth my time. Dirj will kill them both. But yes, at the moment DirWork is the reigning god. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!world.std.com!cosell Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:18:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vuc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:18:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYV6B-00005kC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 02:30 EST Received: from relay2.UU.NET by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYUmU-0000QDC; Sun, 20 Feb 94 23:10 PST Received: from world.std.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAweee08491; Mon, 21 Feb 94 02:10:00 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA11072; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 02:10:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9402182149.AA01661@plucky.safb.af.mil> (from bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills)) (at Fri, 18 Feb 94 15:49:19 CST) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Content-Length: 2838 Date: Sunday, 20 February 1994 18:29 EST Organization: Fantasy Farm Fibers Message-Id: <5894:66590@fantasyfarm.com> From: bernie@fantasyfarm.com (Bernie Cosell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Bugs in the Mod() function In <9402182149.AA01661@plucky.safb.af.mil> on Feb 18, Barry D Wills wrote: } Sounds from your example like: } } WriteF('time=12: 15 hours later it's \d\n', Mod(15, 12)) } } writes: } } time=12: 15 hours later it's 3 } } I still don't see it. Mod(12,12) = 0, just like the example. Try WriteF('time=12: 15 hours earlier it's \d\n', Mod(12-15, 12)) } *B) } This will give weird results if c exceeds max-int. } *B) } Wouter likes it this way, so I made a function that } *B) } does 32bit modulo: } *B) } } *B) } PROC mod(this, bythat) RETURN this-Mul(bythat, Div(this, bythat)) } *B) } *B) Unfortunately it doesn't. It returns the *remainder*. Not the same } } By any definition I am familiar with it does. You better } hurry up and edumuhcate us before Wouter releases a } Compiler Authoring Tutorial and suddenly a hundred other } languages arise, all with a Mod function or operator that } performs against your expectations. :-D } } Ahem, sorry. I couldn't resist the opportunity. :-) OK, I'll try this slowly. "modulo arithmetic" refers to a particular sort of arithmetic over a finite field. In every mathematical context using the term, the concept of "modulo n" refers to operations over a field best modelled as the integers from (0, ..., n-1), where each 'integer' is actually an equivalence class: the member 'k' of the field is actually the equiv class of all integers of the form (k + x*n), for all integral x. form a field with the arithmetic operations defined over the integers in the usual way. There are subtleties if you want to talk about 'n' being negative or fractional, but those aren't relevant for the current discussion. } *B) I've been trying to argue some _basic_ math into hardheaded hardware } *B) designers for almost 30 years now.... } } Preseverence! Changing tradition, nearly impossible } sometimes. At the least, I _might_ be able to get Wouter to change it from Mod() to Rem() or _at_least_ get the docs to say explictly that it implements nothing more than 'remainder' [regardless of what it is called].... not likely but it's a shot... [I've given up hope of anyone actually *implementing* a real mod function, and so if I need to do modular arithmetic [as in the clock example] the only alternative is to do it brute-force [and the little expression you wrote above *doesn't* do it, unfortunately [yes, i did try that! it just gets you the remainder back again on most [but not all!] architectures]]. Real modular arithmetic is useful and it is really a shame that because of a bunch of EEs a long time ago not caring [or not knowing any better], computers now don't support it, when they trivially could. such is life.. /Bernie\ -- Bernie Cosell bernie@fantasyfarm.com Fantasy Farm Fibers, Pearisburg, VA (703) 921-2358 From donews!crash!archimed.irit.fr!vintenat Tue, 22 Feb 94 01:33:19 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vv2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 01:33:19 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYXTq-0002SvC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 05:03 EST Received: from archimed.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYXQ9-0000V2C; Mon, 21 Feb 94 01:59 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archimed.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA08101 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 11:02:37 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 11:02:37 GMT Message-Id: <199402211102.LAA08101@archimed.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: v39 .m's >-> > BTW I'm trying to convert the AmigaDos 3.1 .i includes into .m >-> files > with IConvert. >-> > >-> > Needless to say, there are some .i files that don't want to work. >-> (eg. > exec/ables.i or exec/exec.i or exec/initializers.i) >-> > >-> > Any Suggestions? (I really want to have these includes!) >-> >-> First convert the .h files into .i files using the C preprocessor. >-> This will strip out crap that may confuse iconvert. Then iconvert >-> your new files to .m files. Note that I haven't actually done this >-> myself, but I have heard it works. It's worth looking into at any >-> rate. > >Is/has anyone been able to do this? If so, are they going to post the 3.1 .m >files to this list, or make them available for others? I converted asm includes v40.13 into Amiga E modules this week-end using IConvert. But I had a lot of problems with A68K/asm include format. I think I fixed them in 95% of the cases, but for the remaining 5%, I can't assure you that the conversion is perfect. Anyway, those problems are local to rarely used modules (like card.m). I can e-mail them for each of you who want them (I prefer personal e-mail than a global e-mail to the list because the archive is quite big :-)). Simply e-mail me. If there are really too much demands for them, I'll e-mail them directly to the list. >Apart from HowToCode 7, >are there any other docs on v39+? I've got the autodocs for v40 - but they >only cover the new libraries for the cd32... I have the v39 autodocs (so they exists :-)) but not the v40 :-(... Lionel From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Tue, 22 Feb 94 01:33:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vvh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 01:33:41 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYZMP-0002VDC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYYrk-0000TRC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 03:31 PST Received: from attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <01573-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 11:31:36 +0000 Received: by attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA27888; Mon, 21 Feb 94 11:31:32 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 11:31:32 GMT Message-Id: <9402211131.AA27888@attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: asl difficulties From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:20 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vvm@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:20 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYZMa-0002T2C; Mon, 21 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYZLk-0000XlC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 04:02 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa27062; 21 Feb 94 11:22 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 11:22:31 GMT Message-Id: <6919.9402211122@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: aslbase Hi I was recently told that declaring aslbase locally before you set it equal to the opened library base address is DISASTROUS! Are there any more things in modules, apart from constants that are declared globally - also except for library base pointers. I wouldnt want to use em in my code and make the same mistake twice. BoomBoom dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!daimi.aau.dk!dofok Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vvs@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYaG1-0001xDC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 08:01 EST Received: from iris by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYa7N-0000piC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 04:52 PST Received: by iris id AA06914 (5.67a8/IDA-1.4.4 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:52:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199402211252.AA06914@iris> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:52:04 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199402162229.RAA21891@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 16, 94 05:29:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 146 From: Brian Kofoed To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: FAE update What about emacs, availble on aminet... Works great and is _THE_ editor... :) HAIL emacs (as I am supposed to do, when I mention emacs :) Brian From donews!crash!archimed.irit.fr!vintenat Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:55 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vw4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:02:55 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYbEE-0001p7C; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:03 EST Received: from archimed.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYalR-0000HcC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 05:33 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archimed.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA08185 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:46:40 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:46:40 GMT Message-Id: <199402211246.MAA08185@archimed.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Localization Hi everybody, I have some problem with localization. Can anyone send me small example code with the associated file.catalog ? Thanks for advance, Lionel From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:03:12 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vwd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:03:12 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYbem-0002VXC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 09:30 EST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYbNK-0000D6C; Mon, 21 Feb 94 06:12 PST Received: from rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA04703; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:12:30 +0100 Received: by rbhp48.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA22871; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:12:28 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 15:12:27 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (amiga e mailing list) Subject: FAQ amigae From donews!crash!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!kgreiner Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:03:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vwt@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:03:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYccz-0001NbC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 10:32 EST Received: from bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYcDT-0000DqC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 07:06 PST Received: from localhost by bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/3.910213) id KAA06158; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 10:06:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199402211506.KAA06158@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 10:06:29 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] From: "Kurt W. Greiner" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vxj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYdzw-0001OBC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 12:00 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYdux-0000SqC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 08:55 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:44:40 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:41:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:44:40 GMT Message-Id: <21791.199402211644@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Disk info (as requested) Opus is cool... it`s just your machine is shitty. :) I got ten meg and a full 030 in my machine at 50mz. What you got? ;) UWP From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vxo@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYdzz-0002TzC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 12:00 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYdut-0000MkC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 08:55 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:29:26 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:26:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:29:26 GMT Message-Id: <20652.199402211629@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Keyboard Intercept Sounds like a good job for a commodity here! They get the input events before intuition, so it`s just a matter of remapping the keyboard events to a whole bunch of input events corresponding to the keypresses you want instead... assuming you are running os2+ Otherwise, you`ll jut have to rite an interrupt timed to the keyboard and go patch that... not entirely sure how to do this not, but I did it once in assembler... Come to think of it, the easiest way would just create a new keymap (there are some pd editors) that bound the new keys to the presses, if you can do this in your term software. UWP From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:25 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vxt@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:25 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYe01-0000AKC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 12:00 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYduw-0000TVC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 08:55 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:43:06 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:39:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:43:06 GMT Message-Id: <21700.199402211643@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. Vincent platt recons: "I just use a button just big enough to hold a acharacter. In PPI I used a button with `*` inside of it." You tit!!!! What is the point of having a gfx interface if you don`t use any graphics? The amiga`s biggest problem is it isn`t graphical _enough_, things are too removed to be recognisable.... and when I see a * in a box the last thing I think of is the established "getfile" symbol! Wise up! Get your interfaces in order! UWP (graphic design student extraordinaire!) From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:34 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vxy@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:04:34 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYe04-0002SMC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 12:00 EST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYdur-0000MZC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 08:55 PST Received: from seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <09902-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:55:09 +0000 Received: by seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA28040; Mon, 21 Feb 94 16:55:05 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 16:55:05 GMT Message-Id: <9402211655.AA28040@seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > From bkhouse!AmigaE-error@donews.cts.com Sat Feb 19 13:14:50 1994 > X-Original-Envelope-From: donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 18 Feb 94 > 07:40:39 PST > X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com > X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:24:30 -0500 > To: "Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE" (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com)@dcs.gla.ac.uk > Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) > From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca > X-Original-From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) > Content-Length: 484 > > >> Actually,. tooltypes are really easy. You just have to get around > >> the lack of the amiga.lib functions in E. I have fully functional > >> tooltypes code if anyone wants it? (hacked it up for a commodity I made > >> for a friend) > > > >Could you mail it to me as I would like to see it please. > > > Well, it's up on aminet now, but if you don't have ftp, I can mail it. > Do you? I do have ftp access, however when I went onto the Aminet today, I could not find it. What is it called? Where is it? Could you please mail it anyway so I don't have to keep asking these dumb questions? :-) Thanks in advance Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ad047 Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:05:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1vzd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:05:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYjDd-0001vuC; Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:35 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYisC-0000K7C; Mon, 21 Feb 94 14:13 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA25605; Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:13:26 EST Received: from localhost (ad047@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA00290; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:12:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:12:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199402212212.RAA00290@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca From: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca (Stephane Costisella) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Sound in e. Can somebody convert this C code into E. ---------------------------------------- #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #ifdef LATTICE int CXBRK(void) { return(0); } /* Disable SAS CTRL/C handling */ int chkabort(void) { return(0); } /* really */ #endif struct GfxBase *GfxBase; /*-----------------------------------------------------------*/ /* The whichannel array is used when we allocate a channel. */ /* It tells the audio device which channel we want. The code */ /* is 1 =channel0, 2 =channel1, 4 =channel2, 8 =channel3. */ /* If you want more than one channel, add the codes up. */ /* This array says "Give me channel 0. If it's not available */ /* then try channel 1; then try channel 2 and then channel 3 */ /*-----------------------------------------------------------*/ UBYTE whichannel[] = { 1,2,4,8 }; void main(int argc, char **argv) { struct IOAudio *AudioIO; /* Pointer to the I/O block for I/O commands */ struct MsgPort *AudioMP; /* Pointer to a port so the device can reply */ struct Message *AudioMSG; /* Pointer for the reply message */ ULONG device; BYTE *waveptr; /* Pointer to the sample bytes */ LONG frequency = 440; /* Frequency of the tone desired */ LONG duration = 3; /* Duration in seconds */ LONG clock = 3579545; /* Clock constant, 3546895 for PAL */ LONG samples = 2; /* Number of sample bytes */ LONG samcyc = 1; /* Number of cycles in the sample */ /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Ask the system if we are PAL or NTSC and set clock constant accordingly */ /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ GfxBase = (struct GfxBase *)OpenLibrary("graphics.library",0L); if (GfxBase == 0L) goto killaudio; if (GfxBase->DisplayFlags & PAL) clock = 3546895; /* PAL clock */ else clock = 3579545; /* NTSC clock */ if (GfxBase) CloseLibrary((struct Library *) GfxBase); /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Create an audio I/O block so we can send commands to the audio device */ /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ AudioIO = (struct IOAudio *) AllocMem( sizeof(struct IOAudio),MEMF_PUBLIC | MEMF_CLEAR); if (AudioIO == 0) goto killaudio; printf("IO block created...\n"); /*-------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Create a reply port so the audio device can reply to our commands */ /*-------------------------------------------------------------------*/ AudioMP = CreatePort(0,0); if (AudioMP == 0) goto killaudio; printf("Port created...\n"); /*----------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Set up the audio I/O block for channel allocation: */ /* ioa_Request.io_Message.mn_ReplyPort is the address of a reply port. */ /* ioa_Request.io_Message.mn_Node.ln_Pri sets the precedence (priority) */ /* of our use of the audio device. Any tasks asking to use the audio */ /* device that have a higher precedence will steal the channel from us.*/ /* ioa_Request.io_Command is the command field for I/O. */ /* ioa_Request.io_Flags is used for the I/O flags. */ /* ioa_AllocKey will be filled in by the audio device if the allocation */ /* succeeds. We must use the key it gives for all other commands sent.*/ /* ioa_Data is a pointer to the array listing the channels we want. */ /* ioa_Length tells how long our list of channels is. */ /*----------------------------------------------------------------------*/ AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Message.mn_ReplyPort = AudioMP; AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Message.mn_Node.ln_Pri = 0; AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Command = ADCMD_ALLOCATE; AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Flags = ADIOF_NOWAIT; AudioIO->ioa_AllocKey = 0; AudioIO->ioa_Data = whichannel; AudioIO->ioa_Length = sizeof(whichannel); printf("I/O block initialized for channel allocation...\n"); /*-----------------------------------------------*/ /* Open the audio device and allocate a channel */ /*-----------------------------------------------*/ device = OpenDevice("audio.device",0L, (struct IORequest *) AudioIO ,0L); if (device != 0) goto killaudio; printf("Audio device opened, channel allocated...\n"); /*----------------------------------------------*/ /* Create a very simple audio sample in memory. */ /* The sample must be CHIP RAM */ /*----------------------------------------------*/ waveptr = (BYTE *)AllocMem( samples , MEMF_CHIP|MEMF_PUBLIC); if (waveptr == 0) goto killaudio; waveptr[0] = 127; waveptr[1] = -127; printf("Wave data ready...\n"); /*------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Set up audio I/O block to play a sample using CMD_WRITE. */ /* The io_Flags are set to ADIOF_PERVOL so we can set the */ /* period (speed) and volume with the our sample; */ /* ioa_Data points to the sample; ioa_Length gives the length */ /* ioa_Cycles tells how many times to repeat the sample */ /* If you want to play the sample at a given sampling rate, */ /* set ioa_Period = clock/(given sampling rate) */ /*------------------------------------------------------------*/ AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Message.mn_ReplyPort =AudioMP; AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Command =CMD_WRITE; AudioIO->ioa_Request.io_Flags =ADIOF_PERVOL; AudioIO->ioa_Data =(BYTE *)waveptr; AudioIO->ioa_Length =samples; AudioIO->ioa_Period =clock*samcyc/(samples*frequency); AudioIO->ioa_Volume =64; AudioIO->ioa_Cycles =frequency*duration/samcyc; printf("I/O block initialized to play tone...\n"); /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ /* Send the command to start a sound using BeginIO() */ /* Go to sleep and wait for the sound to finish with */ /* WaitPort(). When we wake-up we have to get the reply */ /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ printf("Starting tone now...\n"); BeginIO((struct IORequest *) AudioIO ); WaitPort(AudioMP); AudioMSG = GetMsg(AudioMP); printf("Sound finished...\n"); killaudio: printf("Killing audio device...\n"); if (waveptr != 0) FreeMem(waveptr, 2); if (device == 0) CloseDevice( (struct IORequest *) AudioIO ); if (AudioMP != 0) DeletePort(AudioMP); if (AudioIO != 0) FreeMem( AudioIO,sizeof(struct IOAudio) ); } -------------- I tried to convert C to E but my program doesn't work, I'm near but I need help. Here is my E code. /* Sound V1.0 - Stephane Costisella in 1994 */ /* Internet: ad047@Freenet.carleton.ca */ OPT OSVERSION=37 MODULE 'devices/audio', 'dos/dos', 'exec/memory', 'exec/types', 'exec/io' ENUM NONE, ERR_DOS, ERR_MEM, ERR_DEVICE DEF audiobuf=NIL, msgport=NIL, filebuf=NIL, audiomsg=NIL, ioreq: PTR TO ioaudio, iow:PTR TO iostd, ior:PTR TO iostd DEF whichannel[4]:ARRAY OF INT,waveptr:PTR TO INT PROC main () HANDLE whichannel[1]:=1;whichannel[2]:=2;whichannel[3]:=4;whichannel[4]:=8 /* open audio device */ ioreq := AllocMem( SIZEOF ioaudio,MEMF_PUBLIC + MEMF_CLEAR) msgport := CreateMsgPort () IF msgport=NIL THEN Raise (ERR_DEVICE) ioreq := CreateIORequest (msgport, SIZEOF ioaudio) IF ioreq=NIL THEN Raise (ERR_DEVICE) IF OpenDevice ('audio.device', 0, ioreq, NIL)<>NIL THEN Raise (ERR_DEVICE) /* init values */ iow := ioreq iow.command := ADCMD_ALLOCATE iow.flags := ADIOF_NOWAIT ioreq.allockey := 0 ioreq.data := whichannel ioreq.length := 30000 DoIO(ioreq) /* create sample */ waveptr := AllocMem( 2 , MEMF_CHIP+MEMF_PUBLIC) waveptr[0] := 127 waveptr[1] := -127 /* set up audio */ iow := ioreq iow.command := CMD_WRITE iow.flags := ADIOF_PERVOL ioreq.data := waveptr ioreq.length := 2 ioreq.period := 40 ioreq.volume := 64 ioreq.cycles := 10000 DoIO (ioreq) WaitPort(msgport) audiomsg := GetMsg(msgport) /* clear all */ FreeMem(waveptr, 2) IF ioreq <>NIL THEN CloseDevice (ioreq) BUT DeleteIORequest (ioreq) IF msgport<>NIL THEN DeleteMsgPort(msgport) EXCEPT SELECT exception CASE ERR_DOS; PrintFault (IoErr(), 'Error') CASE ERR_MEM; PutStr ('Error: not enough memory\n') CASE ERR_DEVICE; PutStr ('Error: couldn\at open audio device\n') ENDSELECT ENDPROC -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Stephane Costisella, Hull Quebec, Canada | Talk me about: //3D Raytracing | | Freenet: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca | ------------- // Programming | |___________________________________________| \\// CommodoreAMIGA| From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:38:31 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1w3n@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:38:31 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYurr-0001PoC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 06:01 EST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYuls-0000QmC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 02:55 PST Received: from synapse.org (uucp@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id FAA24895 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Tue, 22 Feb 1994 05:55:14 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDFA42; Mon, 21 Feb 94 20:50:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.110332.1351.0CEDFA42@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 12:07:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: fd2module Yep! Definately want fd2module! Bob Monaghan From donews!crash!dsi.unimi.it!ruocco Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:40:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1w69@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:40:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYzaq-0002VWC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 11:04 EST Received: from pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pYzVh-0000HUC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 07:58 PST Received: by pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01392; Tue, 22 Feb 94 16:59:33 +0100 Message-Id: <9402221559.AA01392@pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 16:59:33 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 147 From: sergio ruocco To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE ME UNSUBSCRIBE ME from this list. Sorry, but it seems that the listserver recorded me with an e-mail address that I forgot now... Thanks. Sergio From donews!crash!daimi.aau.dk!dofok Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:42:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1w9e@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:42:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6e1-0001maC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:36 EST Received: from daimi.aau.dk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6DW-0000N1C; Tue, 22 Feb 94 15:08 PST Received: by daimi.aau.dk id AA05046 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:08:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199402222308.AA05046@daimi.aau.dk> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 0:08:29 GMT In-Reply-To: <199402211102.LAA08101@archimed.irit.fr>; from "Lionel VINTENAT" at Feb 21, 94 11:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] From: Brian Kofoed To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: v39 .m's How about put them on an ftp-site? It is not every user of E that reads this mail group. Brian From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:42:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1w9j@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:42:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6e1-0002TeC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:36 EST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6EM-0000I9C; Tue, 22 Feb 94 15:09 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA12047 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:10:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id PAA27555 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:10:14 -0800 Lines: 37 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 15:10:13 PST Message-ID: <9402221510.1.26789@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Dev Tools and E (was "Re: FAE update") >No, thanks. I use EE exclusively now. If I were using another >language at all, I might try another dev tool, but I'm not. EE >is designed expressly for E. I'm using EE to develop EE in E, >so it's getting a lot of testing as well. My advice to you is >don't waste yer money in a hurry on some generic development >tool. If you're serious about E, wait for the Freeware release >of EE. Then you have my blessing to squander your cash, since >it will be an informed decision. :-) :-) But, they must all wait for EDS V40.64 - it will be out Wednesday. >EE will have some overlapping of functionality with EDS, but >they should be compatible once EE incorporates ARexx, so you >EDS-lovers out there can still enjoy EDS's comfy environment. Why thank you for calling EDS comfy :-) Hey, Barry... when it gets to a point where someone else might be able to figure it out (which it may already be), send me a copy and I'll add some features to EDS if possible to support things, et al. You should have just gotten the latest greatest version of EDS (v40.64 is almost ready for release to all of you, and even has in installer script!) /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Ask about Beta-testing EDS V40 ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!fwi.uva.nl!oortmers Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:43:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1w9t@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 01:43:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6eR-0001PgC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:36 EST Received: from mail.fwi.uva.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZ6O8-00007uC; Tue, 22 Feb 94 15:19 PST Received: from gene.fwi.uva.nl by mail.fwi.uva.nl with SMTP (5.65c/5.1) id AA23113; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:19:31 +0100 Received: by gene.fwi.uva.nl id AA01281; Wed Feb 23 00:19:24 1994 Message-Id: <199402222319.AA01281@gene.fwi.uva.nl> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:19:24 +0100 Return-Path: X-Organisation: Faculty of Mathematics & Computer Science University of Amsterdam Plantage Muidergracht 24 NL-1018 TV Amsterdam The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 525 5200 X-Telex: 16460 facwn nl X-Fax: +31 20 525 5101 From: oortmers@fwi.uva.nl (Wouter van Oortmerssen (Alfa_Inf92)) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: BUGS (known and unknown :-) -> You should ask Wouter for a list of reported and -> *confirmed* bugs instead of taking a poll. :-) Good idea. I think it's useful for more people to know what severe bugs are present in v2.1b, so I made a list. SEVERE known BUGS in Amiga E v2.1b, all solved for the next version (i.e. this does not include smaller bugs) - typed :CHAR lists do not work with expressions (same for a CHAR in :object), i.e. [1]:CHAR works well, but [a]:CHAR gives a wrong result - INT dereferencing returns an UNSIGNED INT instead of a SIGNED one (INT in E is SIGNED by definition). LONG doesn't have this problem. example: DEF p:PTR TO INT ... p[]:=-1 WriteF('\d\n',p[]) /* results in 65535 */ (you don't notice this bug when working with INTs from 0..32783). - some cases of wrong program structure (such as forgetting an ENDIF) are known to be able to crash the compiler - workbench console opens in READWRITE modus (only harmful under 1.3) (these are the most severe ones, but ofcourse there are more. I don't think I'll make a list for those, unless it is very badly needed) -> I do not know what the circumstances are that cause it, but I tried to do a -> comparison against NIL (that is, my code says something like IF blah<>NIL, -> which I know is redundant, but I'm weird) the compilor gives a Software Error -> (the 8[0's]3 kind) and freezes up on me. The compiler should _never_ crash. If you can cook up a small example source that crashes repeatedly, I'd appreciate it. -> Maybe the reason Wouter didn't document the StringF function is that it -> would take to much space to document all the ways it could be used. (:-D) Not everything I do has a reason, this one I just forgot :-) -> Well in all honesty it is actually just a hack to Wouter's -> pragma2module so that it reads fd files instead of pragma files. um, the module file-format is supposed to be private, so if you changed anything there, I recommend you show it me first. Wouter ____ Wouter van Oortmerssen, Wouter@alf.let.uva.nl / __/ "Nobody with a good car needs to be justified" / __/ -Ministry, Jesus built my hotrod /___/ E mailing list: amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Wed, 23 Feb 94 04:31:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wdk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 04:31:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZIJk-0001wiC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 07:03 EST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZIHU-0000iXC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 04:01 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa01932; 23 Feb 94 11:57 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:57:40 GMT Message-Id: <19074.9402231157@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: amigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Editors Increasingly the problem seems to be that people nowadays cant generally afford ram expansions - especially with the advent of the 1200 and 4000. These 2 machine require 32 bit memory which is considerably more expensive than its 16 bit counterparts. With this in mind what the language needs is an editor that will run in the background and be very memory efficient. Today Im haveing a look at GoldED and ESEE - but I think that Im likely to discover that it wants to eat about 400k up before I start editing. This is totally useless from my point of view. I need to be able to edit and compile my sources withing my 2meg of chip ram that comes with my 1200. I dont even have a hd yet so this makes things even more complex. To be honest I have things configured pretty well with emacs. I click on an icon from my E disk and it sets up emacs and a cli in front of it so that all i do is crtl-x ctrl-s from emacs to save and then I compile from the cli. For memory purposes I have EMODULES: no assigned at all - as I am often converting modules like the great crm.library which I have used for crunching purposes. I converted this to modules after I discovered CRM - crunchmania on Pazza Legal tools collection. Its ths best crunch library Ive come across - it blows powerpacker away with lots to spare. If anyone actually wants to modules to this and the docs mention it on here and Ill upload em on here - not the library - go get that somewhere else as its available as PD and its very long - not what this groups about. Wouter maybe a statement about what sort of memory availabilty well need for 3.0 as I believe that you ought to stay within the guidelines that youve set before - like we can compile most things in 2meg. See ya BoomBoom (mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From nkraft Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:11:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wei@bkhouse.cts.com>; Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:11:24 PST Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:11:24 PST Message-Id: <9402231911.1wei@bkhouse.cts.com> In-Reply-To: <21700.199402211643@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> (from vaald@westminster.ac.uk) (at Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:43:06 GMT) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Organization: Argus Computing, San Diego, CA Reply-To: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com From: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman R. Kraft) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. Hello vaald (vaald), on Feb 21 you wrote: > "I just use a button just big enough to hold a acharacter. In PPI I used > a button with `*` inside of it." > > You tit!!!! I know that we have a lot of new users here, so I'll be patient about this sort of thing. Please re-read the section of the FAQ pertaining to posting guidelines on this mailing list. The basic rule is very simple, be polite. Mailing lists are not newsgroups, and require a different level of attention to what we post. Yours is not the most flagrant violation of the basic rule that I have seen in the last couple of weeks, but I do not intend to let flame wars or name-calling get started here. The AmigaE mailing list is a family, not a town square. Thanks for trying to keep all the posts here in line with the guidelines. Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!prl.philips.nl!hill Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:09:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wer@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:09:56 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZKBY-0001vUC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 09:03 EST Received: from relay.philips.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZK9e-0000n3C; Wed, 23 Feb 94 06:01 PST Received: from prl.philips.nl ([130.144.1.112]) by relay.philips.nl with SMTP (5.65c/smail2.5/05-10-87); id AA00619; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 15:00:59 +0100 Received: by prl.philips.nl; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 15:00:53 +0100 Received: by istw232.prl.philips.nl; Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:00:43 +0100 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:00:43 +0100 Message-Id: <9402231400.AA04450@istw232.prl.philips.nl> From: hill@prl.philips.nl To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: FAQ AmigaE From donews!crash!pitt.edu!cjfst4+ Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:10:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wfa@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:10:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZLYN-0001mkC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 10:31 EST Received: from pop.pitt.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZLEA-0000rZC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 07:10 PST Received: from unixs1.cis.pitt.edu by pop.pitt.edu with SMTP id AA20696 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.5 for ); Wed, 23 Feb 1994 10:10:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 10:08:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199402211252.AA06914@iris> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Chad J Freeman To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: FAE update On Mon, 21 Feb 1994, Brian Kofoed wrote: > What about emacs, availble on aminet... > > Works great and is _THE_ editor... :) HAIL emacs (as I am supposed to do, when > I mention emacs :) Gee, I hate to start an emacs war, but emacs is big and bloated for an Amiga text editor. From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:11:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wgy@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 01:11:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZNSy-0001TUC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:33 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZN8Z-0000V9C; Wed, 23 Feb 94 09:12 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06775; Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:13:04 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA09588; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:12:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:12:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402231712.MAA09588@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Problem IFFParse code. Well, here is the program that I told you people about. Take it home, nurture it, see if you can get it to straighten up and fly right. If it works when you compile it (as it should), then something is wrong with my iffparse library. /* ILBM brush to Image. */ MODULE 'dos/dos','intuition/intuition','asl','libraries/asl', 'libraries/iffparse','iffparse','utility/tagitem' ENUM NOERROR,ER_LIBRARY,ER_NOMEM,ER_NOASLREQUEST,ER_FILENOTFOUND,ER_IFFERROR, ER_NOBMHD CONST ID_ILBM=$494C424D CONST ID_BMHD=$424D4844 CONST ID_BODY=$424F4459 CONST ID_CMAP=$434D4150 DEF iff:PTR TO iffhandle PROC main() DEF req:PTR TO filerequestr,source[256]:STRING,err,xsize,ysize,depth,bmhd, body,cmap,camg,cflag,p:PTR TO INT,bp:PTR TO CHAR,sp:PTR TO storedproperty IF KickVersion(37)=FALSE WriteF('Sorry, Kickstart V37+ Required.\n') getout(0) ENDIF IF (aslbase:=OpenLibrary('asl.library',37))=0 error(ER_LIBRARY,'asl') ENDIF IF (iffparsebase:=OpenLibrary('iffparse.library',37))=0 error(ER_LIBRARY,'iffparse') ENDIF IF (req:=AllocAslRequest(ASL_FILEREQUEST,[ASL_HAIL,'Choose ILBM to convert',0]:tagitem))>0 IF AslRequest(req,0)=0 FreeAslRequest(req) getout(0) ELSE StrCopy(source,req.dir,ALL) ; AddPart(source,req.file,256) ; SetStr(source,StrLen(source)) ENDIF ELSE error(ER_NOASLREQUEST,0) ENDIF IF FileLength(source)>0 IF (iff:=AllocIFF())>0 iff.stream:=Open(source,MODE_OLDFILE) InitIFFasDOS(iff) IF (err:=OpenIFF(iff,IFFF_READ))=0 IF (err:=PropChunk(iff,"ILBM","BMHD"))=0 IF (err:=ParseIFF(iff,IFFPARSE_SCAN)=IFFERR_EOF) IF (sp:=FindProp(iff,"ILBM","BMHD"))>0 bmhd:=sp.data bp:=p:=bmhd ; xsize:=p[2] ; ysize:=p[3] depth:=bp[13] ; cflag:=bp[14] ELSE error(ER_NOBMHD,0) ENDIF WriteF('Start:\z\h[8] Xsize:\d Ysize:\d Compression:\d Depth:\d\n',bmhd,xsize,ysize,cflag,depth) getout(0) ELSE error(ER_IFFERROR,err) ENDIF ELSE error(ER_IFFERROR,err) ENDIF ELSE error(ER_IFFERROR,err) ENDIF ELSE error(ER_IFFERROR,IFFERR_NOMEM) ENDIF ELSE error(ER_FILENOTFOUND,source) ENDIF ENDPROC CHAR '$VER: ILBM2Image v.01 (C) 1994 Jason Maskell',0 PROC getout(retcode) IF iff CloseIFF(iff) Close(iff.stream) FreeIFF(iff) ENDIF IF aslbase CloseLibrary(aslbase) ENDIF IF iffparsebase CloseLibrary(iffparsebase) ENDIF CleanUp(retcode) ENDPROC PROC error(errnum,str) DEF work[80]:STRING SELECT errnum CASE ER_LIBRARY StringF(work,'Could not open \s.library V37+',str) CASE ER_NOMEM StringF(work,'Unable to allocate memory.') CASE ER_NOASLREQUEST StringF(work,'Unable to allocate ASL requester.') CASE ER_FILENOTFOUND StringF(work,'File "\s" not found.',str) CASE ER_IFFERROR SELECT str CASE IFFERR_EOC StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: End of Context') CASE IFFERR_NOSCOPE StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: No valid scope') CASE IFFERR_NOMEM StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Internal Memory allocation failed.') CASE IFFERR_READ StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Stream Read Error.') CASE IFFERR_WRITE StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Stream Write Error.') CASE IFFERR_SEEK StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Stream Seek Error.') CASE IFFERR_MANGLED StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: IFF file is corrupt.') CASE IFFERR_SYNTAX StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: IFF Syntax Error.') CASE IFFERR_NOTIFF StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Not an IFF file.') DEFAULT StringF(work,'Iffparse Error: Unknown Error code: \d',str) ENDSELECT CASE ER_NOBMHD StringF(work,'No Bitmapheader found. Not a usable FORM') DEFAULT StringF(work,'Unknown Error code: \d',errnum) ENDSELECT request('ILBN2Image Error',work,'Ok',0) getout(11) ENDPROC PROC request(title,body,gadgets,args) ENDPROC EasyRequestArgs(0,[20,0,title,body,gadgets],0,args) -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Thu, 24 Feb 94 08:58:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wh8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 08:58:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZNwr-0001TUC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 13:04 EST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZNX8-000081C; Wed, 23 Feb 94 09:38 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08294; Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:38:21 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA25180; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:37:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:37:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199402231737.MAA25180@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. [Flames removed.] >The amiga`s biggest problem is it isn`t graphical _enough_, things >are too removed to be recognisable.... and when I see a * in a box the > >UWP (graphic design student extraordinaire!) I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but that 'getfile' gadget is not an 'established' symbol. It is a gadtoolsbox thing, not a gadtools thing. It is not system standard, and it just plain looks weird. Your point is well taken, but perhaps not accurate. P.S. Please remember, this is a list, not a newsgroup. Flames are NOT welcome. If you feel the need to flame someone, go somewhere else. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Thu, 24 Feb 94 08:59:49 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wio@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 08:59:49 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZPLn-0001maC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 14:34 EST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZOtZ-0000DUC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:05 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA11631 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:04:42 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14395; Wed, 23 Feb 94 13:00:46 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00372; Wed, 23 Feb 94 13:02:26 CST Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 13:02:26 CST Message-Id: <9402231902.AA00372@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. A quote from vaald@westminster.ac.uk: *B) Vincent platt recons: *B) *B) "I just use a button just big enough to hold a acharacter. In PPI I used *B) a button with `*` inside of it." *B) *B) You tit!!!! *B) *B) What is the point of having a gfx interface if you don`t use any graphics? *B) The amiga`s biggest problem is it isn`t graphical _enough_, things *B) are too removed to be recognisable.... and when I see a * in a box the *B) last thing I think of is the established "getfile" symbol! *B) *B) Wise up! Get your interfaces in order! *B) *B) UWP (graphic design student extraordinaire!) How about a little decency and commeraderie here. We don't need any inflamation on this list. Take a chill. Let's hear something constructive instead, ay?! From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:00:15 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wj4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:00:15 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZPps-0001S8C; Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:05 EST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZPiG-0000UgC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:57 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA29139; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:58:32 -0600 Message-Id: <9402231958.AA29139@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:58:32 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <21700.199402211643@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> from "vaald@westminster.ac.uk" at Feb 21, 94 04:43:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1406 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > > Vincent platt recons: > > "I just use a button just big enough to hold a acharacter. In PPI I used > a button with `*` inside of it." > > You tit!!!! > Aren't you going a bit far here? Name-calling is not neccessary and it's not really funny either. Also, referring to the rest of our machines as 'shitty' in your other post wasn't exactly humorous either. If you have something to say, then say it. Don't try to entertain us: we aren't entertained by insults. > What is the point of having a gfx interface if you don`t use any graphics? > The amiga`s biggest problem is it isn`t graphical _enough_, things > are too removed to be recognisable.... and when I see a * in a box the > last thing I think of is the established "getfile" symbol! The reason I am doing that is to keep the program size down. There is another program that is exactly like mine that I am trying to beat for size and efficiency (as well as making mine guru-free, because the other is not). If anyone has some code (in E of course) which will allow me to change a character filled button which is one character wide (topaz) to a small graphic then let me know. If I use it you will be in the credits. The product is freeware so don't expect recompense. > Wise up! Get your interfaces in order! > > UWP (graphic design student extraordinaire!) I don't see very many examples of your work posted here.. Hmmm.. From donews!crash!cardiff.ac.uk!thor.cardiff.ac.uk!san3mw Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:00:41 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wjm@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:00:41 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZQF7-0001okC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:31 EST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZQ3K-0000UKC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:19 PST Received: from thor.cf.ac.uk by pigeon.cardiff.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07511-0@pigeon.cardiff.ac.uk>; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 20:00:36 +0000 Via: uk.ac.cardiff; Wed, 23 Feb 1994 20:19:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 20:20:30 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199402212212.RAA00290@freenet.carleton.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Mark Wardle To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Setting up a usenet E group Hello! Has anyone asked about getting an usenet group (just like i-amiga) so people have two ways of posting/accessing this group. I would personally prefer the news via my news reader than a mail reader, but others differ I suppose. Isn't it possible for this to happen? After all i-amiga manages it. Anyway, thanks Mark Wardle From donews!crash!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!THORNTONJ Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:01:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wkz@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:01:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZT6S-0001oOC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 18:34 EST Received: from beast.cs.hh.ab.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZSkn-0000WXC; Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:12 PST Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:12:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <940223181222.20434582@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> From: THORNTONJ@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Fantasy Adventure Engine version 0.1 Hi All, Well, here it is, Fantasy Adventure Engine version 0.1. It's not much right now, but I feel like it's a good core program to build on. The next step will be a fairly major rewrite of the program. With Barry's help, I will be changing the way I am presently working with my data over to his Array system. I will also be incorporating the conlib functions that should improve the way commands our input to the program. When this is done and I've added a few more bells and whistles, I'll post another copy to the list. I'll try to keep you informed as to what I'm doing and where I'm at with the program. Please check out what I've done so far and let me know what you think. Suggestions and comments welcomed. 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M2KW+Q&1ZPMOD.XHB#Q4LFBV,6#L2,_3: MISZHM31(9>&SS/D`NTP)AZ4-W'`_D?_+R/(.]^/$_(X-1^H&E])Y'N2?M/*NV M@]ZPB?$$2?V269FO(DL]S1SJ='T2DYDWZP;*UKZVCOE)705%9.H^3^X)D_PGO M*'K^C]?J9NOC97:]!.:\5PN/N&.9>!O?C;_5!2!MHV6HT5ID%(:VC?Q'Q=(7Y M1U!=%"AP/\A/_2>\9.G0$[4><83/TA,]0\&N2JYC%)ND4G:2]0UA/:7IG@GN\ KH)F_27J/@7J/M+VICE!3]H3VEZAX%ZA[2]J:C1\$]H^U/:/@WLQ>@FQ```GN6 `` end size 2518  From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:19:44 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wpk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:19:44 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZenJ-0001oUC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 04:03 PST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZeRe-0000JSC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 03:41 PST Received: from attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <08853-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:41:00 +0000 Received: by attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA10597; Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:40:46 GMT Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:40:46 GMT Message-Id: <9402241140.AA10597@attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: BUGS (known and unknown :-) > From bkhouse!AmigaE-error@donews.cts.com Wed Feb 23 23:29:08 1994 > X-Original-Envelope-From: donews!crash!fwi.uva.nl!oortmers Wed, 23 Feb 94 > 01:43:15 PST > X-List-Server-Address: AmigaE-request@bkhouse.cts.com > X-List-Admin-Address: AmigaE-admin@bkhouse.cts.com > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:19:24 +0100 > To: "Multiple Recipients of List AmigaE" (AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com)@dcs.gla.ac.uk > Subject: BUGS (known and unknown :-) > Reply-To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) > From: oortmers@fwi.uva.nl (Wouter van Oortmerssen \(Alfa_Inf92\)) > Content-Length: 2228 > > > -> You should ask Wouter for a list of reported and > -> *confirmed* bugs instead of taking a poll. :-) > > Good idea. I think it's useful for more people to know what > severe bugs are present in v2.1b, so I made a list. > > SEVERE known BUGS in Amiga E v2.1b, all solved for the next version > (i.e. this does not include smaller bugs) > > - typed :CHAR lists do not work with expressions (same for a CHAR > in :object), i.e. > > [1]:CHAR > > works well, but > > [a]:CHAR > > gives a wrong result > > - INT dereferencing returns an UNSIGNED INT instead of a SIGNED one > (INT in E is SIGNED by definition). LONG doesn't have this problem. > example: > > DEF p:PTR TO INT > > ... > > p[]:=-1 > WriteF('\d\n',p[]) /* results in 65535 */ > > (you don't notice this bug when working with INTs from 0..32783). > > - some cases of wrong program structure (such as forgetting an ENDIF) > are known to be able to crash the compiler > > - workbench console opens in READWRITE modus (only harmful under 1.3) > > (these are the most severe ones, but ofcourse there are more. I don't > think I'll make a list for those, unless it is very badly needed) > > -> I do not know what the circumstances are that cause it, but I tried to do a > -> comparison against NIL (that is, my code says something like IF blah<>NIL, > -> which I know is redundant, but I'm weird) the compilor gives a Software Error > -> (the 8[0's]3 kind) and freezes up on me. > > The compiler should _never_ crash. If you can cook up a small example > source that crashes repeatedly, I'd appreciate it. A badly structured program in a SELECT block can cause a compiler crash. > -> Well in all honesty it is actually just a hack to Wouter's > -> pragma2module so that it reads fd files instead of pragma files. > > um, the module file-format is supposed to be private, so if you > changed anything there, I recommend you show it me first. The module format itself is unchanged however I will mail you a copy of the program and sources directly for you to see before I put it on this mailing list. Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!archimed.irit.fr!vintenat Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:20:13 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wq6@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:20:13 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZfGD-0001wVC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 04:33 PST Received: from archimed.irit.fr by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZf7p-00006LC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 04:25 PST Received: from localhost (vintenat@localhost) by archimed.irit.fr (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA12738 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:28:25 GMT Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:28:25 GMT Message-Id: <199402241328.NAA12738@archimed.irit.fr> From: Lionel VINTENAT To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: v39 .m's >How about put them on an ftp-site? It is not every user of E that reads >this mail group. Because I think that it's the job of Wouter to do "an official release". I repeat that I can't assure anybody that my e-modules are 100% reliable. But as I had to translate them from C includes, I think it's a good idea to e-mail them for other people who need too them. Lionel From donews!crash!UNCA.EDU!JVANRIPER Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:20:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wqh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:20:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZfg4-0001PsC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 05:00 PST Received: from uncavx by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZffj-0000GXC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 05:00 PST Received: from UNCA.EDU by UNCA.EDU (PMDF V4.2-15 #5911) id <01H998QWCFMO935967@UNCA.EDU>; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 07:58:21 EST Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 07:58:21 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H998QWDI7M935967@UNCA.EDU> Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: "Joseph E. Van_Riper III" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: My reported 'bug' found in Wouterlist Earlier, I wrote that a comparison against NIL (blah<>NIL) crashed during compile. I took that out, and the source STILL crashed.. so I was wrong about the problem. Therefore, I searched in the code and uncovered a missing 'ENDIF'. Since Wouter just described this in his 'buglist,' I suppose it's already been handled... no need to mention it. Which leaves... nothing more to say. - Trey From AmigaE-Admin Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:02:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wr7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:02:22 PST Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:02:22 PST Message-Id: <9402241902.1wr7@bkhouse.cts.com> X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 2.253) Organization: Argus Computing & Multimedia Reply-To: amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com From: AmigaE-Admin@bkhouse.cts.com (AmigaE Mailing List Administration) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: ADMIN: Subjects to be closed AmigaE List Members, Since the discussions under the subject lines: re: FAE update re: Disk info (as requested) have either strayed too far from the subject of AmigaE (Disk info), or appear to be turning into editor wars (FAE update), I'll be accepting posts with these subjects for another three days. After that, all posts to the list with these subjects will be rejected. As always, please refer at least occasionally to the AmigaE Posting Guidelines to help us all keep this list as helpful and AmigaE specific as possible. With the number of people who unsubscribe due to high list volume, we can't afford to have that volume increased with discussions that belong in newsgroups, or via personal mail. Thanks! Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) Department of Psychiatry UUCP : ucsd!nkraft UCSD School of Medicine, San Diego, CA -- Usual disclaimers apply. -- * Metamail cheerfully accepted * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:37:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wsd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:37:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZgdz-0001PIC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 06:02 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZgNc-00009OC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 05:45 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA14947; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 14:44:52 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA16955; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 14:44:55 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 14:44:52 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402221510.1.26789@cup.portal.com>; from "WiZkId@cup.portal.com" at Feb 22, 94 3:10 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: Re: Dev Tools and E (was "Re: FAE update") HI ! > > But, they must all wait for EDS V40.64 - it will be out Wednesday. hehehe which one ? You are using the first upload law ! ^^^^^^^^^ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:39:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wuc@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:39:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZjz9-0001mmC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:36 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZjYo-0000FzC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 09:09 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:34:42 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:31:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:34:42 GMT Message-Id: <29745.199402241634@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:39:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wuv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:39:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZkxB-0001KHC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 10:38 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZkYR-00006gC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 10:12 PST Received: from synapse.org (uucp@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA05092 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:12:42 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDFBCA; Thu, 24 Feb 94 12:23:51 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.112342.1351.0CEDFBCA@synapse.org> In-Reply-To: <199402212212.RAA00290@freenet.carleton.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 12:06:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Sound in e. Hi Stephane, The source is incomplete. (The Message can only be so long...) What is the program supposed to do? A sound player? BTW.. Does anyone out there have the source (and documentation on) for the SOundtracker format? I want to try and write an ST mod player, (and perhaps later on a MOD. datatype. From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:40:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wvz@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:40:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZmFP-0001wbC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 12:01 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZlrT-0000eTC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 11:36 PST Received: from synapse.org (synapse@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id OAA06137 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 14:36:31 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCB-UUCP 1.1f) id EDFBD9; Thu, 24 Feb 94 13:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.112348.1351.0CEDFBD9@synapse.org> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 13:04:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Hooks/Xpk I've been trying to create a 'hook' for the status report feature of the xpkmaster.library. Sofar.. No luck. Information isn't coming back to the xpkprogress structure. Any suggestions? Here is the code. (This only unpacks individual files not whole dirs!) begin 644 Inflator.lha M(-$M;&@U+?L#``!X"```.6-8'```"DEN9FQA=&]R+F4*^@.-:]?1IMQ?YWX`K M_WXAD3T"27:Z.PJ3&<2-5C8F!=4H"BX9P#0SFTWQ5#9;P7WB%_W\V1S[ MO6!OQ$<6#@A?>OJXX".PXL;##&`F$`W\2T;*6\>6(,L(/PP=[5&I0)/-1'(?A M7)*;QZ[MW0WDRQ/5!A<4O,W4$FX(G*C;[EFJ8YN:1:$HK/'?!R)0;SUU@A>G. M7)I4$-11>@>?:CUJ['+O-.BCW.TA_'LZ_1:1[>!]R8LMI\+44]$VQL4\GW0:1 MFEI8+_4E[#*9/Y,PQCBA=#>60[-M@%N:EE1YV*3I,=%'%N]_4>W7P/'_8*_7& M.@*3(!0L)YI#H#7-0LU23!T7!0BHEWO&ZU^?^@1]C1WE<6!2L,YC@C:8!GJ#- MZJ(^*T8]A!D7$TEI%I$DU0UE-*.\M*#4=*Z5.-IJ[;MI<@,O@2!,:YJ&:Z+;& M;"5/C+1292H=?>".;?O*?5+(B,74X/%FUDFX41FPC2+5 M<<:"$:(^"%];32T`T+!IBR`9$4.S3\65TZU#O&[H:@@\F4D44-B5[1#C`JQL4N0FKRJBO[S[LQYRQ[F4CK=ON^= MBZV0#^*!Q3X6;6MCC. M,P)M:$>NV):/.I.^R`R$?([E`]"EPZYD)7C\^8F'Q.F]JL9TE%%_@=X_+%)'K;O/S'V,V$<>M8E>CSU%I!VQL#]+=*FTTI=I,FDI.MY0`//SK `` end size 1054 -------------------- Check it out... 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From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:41:04 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1ww8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:41:04 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZmpE-0001PuC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 12:38 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZmOD-00004HC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 12:10 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA11421; Thu, 24 Feb 94 15:10:53 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA19292; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:10:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:10:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199402242010.PAA19292@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! >I do have ftp access, however when I went onto the Aminet today, I could not >find it. What is it called? Where is it? Could you please mail it anyway so I >don't have to keep asking these dumb questions? :-) > Well, it turns out I cannot uuencode anything on ythis piece of crap Mac. It munges up all my uuencoded files, even when I do them on the Mac! I've just been told that it is possible, so I'll try again. The file on aminet is E_Commodity. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ad047 Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:42:06 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wxb@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:42:06 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZpcG-0001jmC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 15:37 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZpEO-0000FPC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 15:12 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22942; Thu, 24 Feb 94 18:12:58 EST Received: from localhost (ad047@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA00104; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 18:12:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 18:12:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402242312.SAA00104@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca From: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca (Stephane Costisella) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Is that a E BUG? I am trying to use the ToLower() & ToUpper() command in the module Utility, each time I try to use it I have a GURU. This is an example: MODULE 'Utility' DEF key[120]:STRING,key2[120]:STRING PROC main() StrCopy(key,'Testing: AbcDeFghIjkLmnoPqRSTuvwXyZ.,!@#$%^&*()+|?<>',ALL) key2:=ToLower(key) WriteF('\s',key2) ENDPROC -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Stephane Costisella, Hull Quebec, Canada | Talk me about: //3D Raytracing | | Freenet: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca | ------------- // Programming | |___________________________________________| \\// CommodoreAMIGA| From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:44:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1wzx@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:44:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZuH0-0002TeC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 20:35 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZthg-0000MBC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 19:59 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA28461 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:59:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id TAA27082 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:59:48 -0800 Lines: 27 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 19:59:46 PST Message-ID: <9402241959.1.25339@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: PrintIText V40??? Hi! I have just been working on EDS under the new V40 emodules (trying to re-compile) and have run into a major problem! I was about to ask for help, but just went into the two different intuition/intuiton.m files, and found this line in the new one: kludgefill00:CHAR This must be my problem, and I will try different values (probably a 0) in it, but if anybody else tries recompiling sources under 3.1 - BE CAREFUL! This may be your major problem. Also, the ASL objects are different, but those are easy to fix, I think :-) /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:44:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x02@bkhouse.cts.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:44:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZuH1-0001PgC; Thu, 24 Feb 94 20:35 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pZthj-0000D5C; Thu, 24 Feb 94 19:59 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA28466 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:59:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id TAA27112 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:59:55 -0800 Lines: 52 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 19:59:53 PST Message-ID: <9402241959.2.25339@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Kid in a candy shop Wow! I feel like a kid with a new toy! After un-UUencoding (AKA UUDecoding :-) the V39/V40 modules, I've been playing all night! After checking out all my new parts, I tried to put a few together, onto an even better version of EDS :-) I figured, I have an Amigaguide.m, why not add online help? So, I looked at some examples in the autodocs for the AmigaGuide.library, and threw together what I though would work... PROC dohelp() DEF nag:PTR TO newamigaguide,agahandle IF (amigaguidebase:=OpenLibrary('amigaguide.library',37))=NIL THEN RETURN ER_ NOAGALIB nag:=NIL nag.name:='EDS:EDS_Docs.guide' nag.node:='MAIN' nag.line:=1 agahandle:=OpenAmigaGuideA(nag,[AGA_HELPGROUP,NIL,NIL]) CloseAmigaGuide(agahandle) IF amigaguidebase THEN CloseLibrary(amigaguidebase) ENDPROC Now... can anyone tell me why this might crash? I know I'm not doing any error checking on agahandle to see if it's opened up or not, but that doesn't matter, because it crashes right there. It is a very HARD crash, and I don't even have time to get a SnoopDos report (to a file even) on what is happening. It even cleared my static-ramdisk one time! I have tried without the taglist to Open...A() I have tried a lot of different things. The autodoc example doesn't declare all parts of nag, just defines as NULL and then declares what it wants (same things) So... if you know anything about the AmigaGuide.library, and have any suggestions, lemme-know! Thanx! /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:30:53 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x20@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:30:53 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5Uw-0001S4C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:34 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa57R-0000KaC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:10 PST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pZyOb-0002w5C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 00:59 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa01401; 25 Feb 94 8:58 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:58:26 GMT Message-Id: <11912.9402250858@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Re: fd2module >> Yep! Definately wand fd2module << >> Bob Monaghan << Not really its easy just get your fd type fd2pragma (if uve got it) and then use prgama2module Its as easy as that! BoomBoom (mexaland) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!mclink.it!MC1876 Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:31:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x3c@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:31:56 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5VG-0002SnC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:35 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa59L-0000CyC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:12 PST Received: from ax433.mclink.it by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pZzYY-0002yNC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 02:14 PST Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 11:13:44 CET Message-ID: <9402251113.aa00494@ax433.mclink.it> From: Francesco Munda To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE unsubscribe UnSubscribe Sorry, the AmigaE list is fascinating, but I've got no spare time from my Army job... :( FM - mc1876@mclink.it From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x4t@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa62Q-0002T4C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:09 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5Oe-0000avC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:28 PST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pa1fC-00033FC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 04:29 PST Received: from seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <21490-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:28:38 +0000 Received: by seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA11621; Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:28:30 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:28:30 GMT Message-Id: <9402251228.AA11621@seguam.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! > Well, it turns out I cannot uuencode anything on ythis piece of > crap Mac. It munges up all my uuencoded files, even when I do them on the > Mac! I've just been told that it is possible, so I'll try again. The file > on aminet is E_Commodity. This may be caused by the Mac using a different end of line marker from the Amiga and Unix. Hope this helps Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x4z@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa62W-0001S4C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:09 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5P6-0000d0C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:28 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pa1yf-00033oC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 04:49 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA18814; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:48:26 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA18054; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:48:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 13:48:22 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (amiga e mailing list) Subject: 4 Barry Hi ! Sorry if I post here, but I can reach Barry at his address : Host Unknown. I check the address I use with a old mail from him, there is no mistake. A reply do the same ! PLease, Barry, tell me your right email address Thanx ! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!stack.urc.tue.nl!leon Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x5i@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:33:56 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa63K-0001PUC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5bT-00009oC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:41 PST Received: from mailhost.tue.nl by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pZydP-0002wZC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:14 PST Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl by mailhost.tue.nl with SMTP id AA26528 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 25 Feb 1994 10:14:43 +0100 Received: from blade.stack.urc.tue.nl by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (4.1/1.53) id AA17967; Fri, 25 Feb 94 10:13:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (leon@localhost) by blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.5/8.6.4) id KAA22966 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 10:14:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199402250914.KAA22966@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 10:14:47 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <19074.9402231157@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> from "Darren Parr" at Feb 23, 94 11:57:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1699 From: leon@stack.urc.tue.nl (Leon Woestenberg) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Editors > > With this in mind what the language needs is an editor that will run in the > background and be very memory efficient. > > Today Im haveing a look at GoldED and ESEE - but I think that Im likely Let me know if you like it, please. > to discover that it wants to eat about 400k up before I start editing. > This is totally useless from my point of view. > GoldED IS very memory efficient, and ESEE does NOT TAKE any memory, because it's a configuration. GoldED can be iconified, or unloaded from memory (as it is resident if you want so). When compiling via ESEE, it will start an ARexx script that will compile the E source in the background. After compilation, error feedback pinpoints your cursor to the spot of error and pops up a requester with the EC error statement. All in all, I think GoldED takes ~180 Kb fast, and some chip if the screen is open. > I need to be able to edit and compile my sources withing my 2meg of chip ram > that comes with my 1200. > Really this should be no problem for you. It should be ESEE :o) > I dont even have a hd yet so this makes things even more complex. > To be honest I have things configured pretty well with emacs. > I like GoldED's 2.x/3.x look, feel and power. Especially things like folding, referencing to AutoDocs, E Modules etc. is very useful for me. > I click on an icon from my E disk and it sets up emacs and a cli in front of > it so that all i do is crtl-x ctrl-s from emacs to save and then I compile > from the cli. > I press RightAmiga-E to do the same with error feedback. > See ya > BoomBoom (mexaland) > > dp@maths.nott.ac.uk > > -- Intel Outside, Intuition Inside... Leon Woestenberg (leon@stack.urc.tue.nl) -- From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:34:23 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x61@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:34:23 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa63N-0001T5C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5Tv-0000oSC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:33 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pa3iM-00037eC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 06:40 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA22835 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 08:39:49 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12429; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:35:52 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01104; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:37:32 CST Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:37:32 CST Message-Id: <9402251437.AA01104@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: PrintIText V40??? *B) Hi! I have just been working on EDS under the new V40 emodules (trying to Hi. :) *B) re-compile) and have run into a major problem! *B) *B) I was about to ask for help, but just went into the two different *B) intuition/intuiton.m files, and found this line in the new one: *B) *B) kludgefill00:CHAR Let's see, that would be the intuitext object, right? I worked around it by defining the object locally in my program to appear the same way it does in the 2.0 modules, and called it OBJECT intuitext_fix ... ENDOBJECT or something like that. Wouter was nice enough to send me a "doctored" intuition/intuition.m. Maybe he's nice enough to post it since there appears to be some need. (I'll do it if you want, Wouter, since it's probably less trouble for me.) *B) This may be your major problem. Also, the ASL objects are different, but *B) those are easy to fix, I think :-) Hmph. Didn't notice any problems there. What's the diff, naming? Or structure? -- Barry From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:34:54 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x6n@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:34:54 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa63V-0001ZwC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from vmbb.cts.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5UQ-0000hrC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:34 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pa3vk-00038CC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 06:54 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id GAA00285 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 06:55:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id GAA20414 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 06:55:10 -0800 Lines: 34 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 06:55:09 PST Message-ID: <9402250655.1.19291@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but that 'getfile' gadget is >not an 'established' symbol. It is a gadtoolsbox thing, not a gadtools >thing. It is not system standard, and it just plain looks weird. Your >point is well taken, but perhaps not accurate. [I'm not trying to start a war here, just put in my 2 cents] First off, the Getfile gadget is a BOOPSI-thing. Also, it should be possible to USE it, or even one of the MUI getfile gadgets (which I think look much nicer, but MUI is too slow!), by using a generic gadtools gadget, and supplying the imagery. Second, it is "established" because if you show someone one of those gadgets, and ask what it is, they will tell you "getfile". If you give someone an asterisk and ask what it is, you're not going to get a precise result. I also believe it is STANDARD, because look at C='s own FOUNTAIN/INTELLIFONT. They use the "non-standard/non-established" getfile symbol in a gadget. /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:35:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x6w@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:35:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa640-0001xJC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5q1-0000FcC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:56 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pa5pJ-0001KyC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 16:55 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:55:43 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9402241959.2.25339@cup.portal.com> from "WiZkId@cup.portal.com" at Feb 24, 94 07:59:53 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 615 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Kid in a candy shop > IF (amigaguidebase:=OpenLibrary('amigaguide.library',37))=NIL THEN RETURN ER_ Can't help you with your problem sorry :-( But could I ask that you don't hard code the guide filename into your program. I (and many others) store all my manual, doc and guide files into specific directories, and I'd like for all programs to be able to access that help without me having to create softlinks or making assigns. On a large hard drive it's far neater to have all guide files in one place, intead of dotted around the drive. Oh, and it may also help to support powerpacked amigaguides... Later... Robert From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:35:17 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x71@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:35:17 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa642-00020HC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 09:10 PST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa5t1-0000XmC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 08:59 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pa5se-0001LDC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 16:59 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:59:11 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <1d.112342.1351.0CEDFBCA@synapse.org> from "Bob Monaghan" at Feb 24, 94 12:06:00 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 395 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Sound in e. > BTW.. Does anyone out there have the source (and documentation on) for > the SOundtracker format? I want to try and write an ST mod player, (and > perhaps later on a MOD. datatype. I'd suggest you convert the modules into MED format, then use the player library to do all the hard work for you. The includes for MED convert with no problems, as I've done this myself :-) Ciao, Robert From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:36:18 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x8e@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:36:18 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa9Cu-0001S4C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:32 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pa94b-0000NPC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:23 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA18960 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:24:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id MAA00674 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:24:40 -0800 Lines: 22 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:24:40 PST Message-ID: <9402251224.2.27387@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Dev Tools and E (was "Re: FAE update") >HI ! >> >> But, they must all wait for EDS V40.64 - it will be out Wednesday. > >hehehe which one ? You are using the first upload law ! ^^^^^^^^^ Last one :-) It's already up on the Aminet sites, in the Dev/e directory. And I'm already at work on an even better (read: more features) version :-) /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ad047 Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:36:59 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1x9a@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 01:36:59 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paB64-0001o1C; Fri, 25 Feb 94 14:33 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paAwP-0000UJC; Fri, 25 Feb 94 14:23 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA18631; Fri, 25 Feb 94 17:23:41 EST Received: from localhost (ad047@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA02508; Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:23:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:23:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199402252223.RAA02508@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca From: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca (Stephane Costisella) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Sound in e. > >Hi Stephane, >The source is incomplete. (The Message can only be so long...) >What is the program supposed to do? A sound player? > >BTW.. Does anyone out there have the source (and documentation on) for >the SOundtracker format? I want to try and write an ST mod player, (and >perhaps later on a MOD. datatype. > It's just suppose to play an analog sound, I'm shure all the source is included. This is a simple example from the Rom Kernal. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Stephane Costisella, Hull Quebec, Canada | Talk me about: //3D Raytracing | | Freenet: ad047@freenet.carleton.ca | ------------- // Programming | |___________________________________________| \\// CommodoreAMIGA| From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Sat, 26 Feb 94 05:40:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xd8@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sat, 26 Feb 94 05:40:56 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paODY-0002TCC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 04:34 PST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paNxT-0000NLC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 04:17 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <21923-0@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:17:19 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <17798-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:17:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:18:18 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: Setting up a usenet E group On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Mark Wardle wrote: > Hello! Has anyone asked about getting an usenet group (just like > i-amiga) so people have two ways of posting/accessing this group. I would > personally prefer the news via my news reader than a mail reader, but > others differ I suppose. Isn't it possible for this to happen? After all > i-amiga manages it. I think the ability to read this list from a newsreader would be good, because I hate having to separate my personal mail from list mail - my mail program should do it for me, but I don't know how to get it to. On the other hand, I think you would have a much higher noise ratio since everyone on this list at the moment is interested in E (not so with a newsgroup). You might even find people posting trying to get us to buy PCs or Macs instead (happens on a lot of Amiga newsgroups). Dave +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:36:52 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xec@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:36:52 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paSr8-0002TWC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 09:31 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paSRN-0000BaC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 09:04 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22743; Sat, 26 Feb 94 12:05:02 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA02736; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:04:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:04:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199402261704.MAA02736@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: I`m new here! >This may be caused by the Mac using a different end of line marker from the >Amiga and Unix. > Well, no, I'm aware of the differences. What is happenning is this: To send a uuencoded file, I have to bring up a text editor in the background, then cut and paste it onto the terminal. (Since both telnet term program have no way to send an ascii file.), but when I load it into any editor, that editor 'decides' that I really don't need some of the characters in the uuencoded lines, and kills them, changing the line sizes. This totally screws up the uue. And, since this is rather off topic, any replies should be in email. (Sorry Norm.) -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:37:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xeh@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:37:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paSrB-0001ZxC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 09:31 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paSUD-0000FLC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 09:07 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22837; Sat, 26 Feb 94 12:07:58 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA04200; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199402261707.MAA04200@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > [I'm not trying to start a war here, just put in my 2 cents] [Me either] > > First off, the Getfile gadget is a BOOPSI-thing. Also, it should be >possible to USE it, or even one of the MUI getfile gadgets (which I think >look much nicer, but MUI is too slow!), by using a generic gadtools gadget, >and supplying the imagery. Yep. Completely possible. > Second, it is "established" because if you show someone one of those >gadgets, and ask what it is, they will tell you "getfile". If you give >someone an asterisk and ask what it is, you're not going to get a precise >result. > Perhaps an asterix is a little vague yes. > I also believe it is STANDARD, because look at C='s own >FOUNTAIN/INTELLIFONT. They use the "non-standard/non-established" getfile >symbol in a gadget. Intellifont/Fountain are for some weird reason non style guide compliant. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xfn@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paZxa-0002TRC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 17:06 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paZno-0000FcC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 16:56 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA26690 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:56:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id QAA03751 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:56:56 -0800 Lines: 45 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 16:56:55 PST Message-ID: <9402261656.3.2883@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Kid in a candy shop >> IF (amigaguidebase:=OpenLibrary('amigaguide.library',37))=NIL THEN RETURN E > >Can't help you with your problem sorry :-( But could I ask that you don't :-( >hard code the guide filename into your program. I (and many others) store all Of course. No, I'm just trying to get something working before I go about setting up a definable place for it. Most likely, EDS will have 2 guides. The normal DOC guide, and then the Online help guide which is just short and sweet info on each button/menu/feature. >my manual, doc and guide files into specific directories, and I'd like for all >programs to be able to access that help without me having to create softlinks >or making assigns. On a large hard drive it's far neater to have all guide Yeah... I've begun keeping my guides in a standard place (If I'm actually thinking when Installer asks me where to put the guide!) I use the place that was set-up (at least for 3.0/3.1) by the original installer on my system, HELP:English/ or even just HELP:. This is where the EDS installer will ask for as a default place to install the help file, if possible, and if it ever makes it there. >files in one place, intead of dotted around the drive. Oh, and it may also >help to support powerpacked amigaguides... I was thinking about MAYBE adding the option of having EDS decompress XPK'd files (now that I have real modules and an example) before loading into Amigaguide. This is only a maybe though. /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xfv@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paZxZ-0002UWC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 17:06 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paZnW-00004FC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 16:55 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA26669 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:56:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id QAA03715 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:56:48 -0800 Lines: 62 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 16:56:48 PST Message-ID: <9402261656.1.2883@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: PrintIText V40??? >*B) kludgefill00:CHAR > >Let's see, that would be the intuitext object, right? I worked >around it by defining the object locally in my program to appear >the same way it does in the 2.0 modules, and called it > > OBJECT intuitext_fix > ... > ENDOBJECT Well, I fixed it easily enough by just adding a 0 to each of my (2) intuitext structures. "PrEgrammers" creed: When all else fails, and a required element is unknown, stick in a NIL! :-) >or something like that. Wouter was nice enough to send me a >"doctored" intuition/intuition.m. Maybe he's nice enough to >post it since there appears to be some need. (I'll do it if >you want, Wouter, since it's probably less trouble for me.) Whatever... if you get a chance. I only have the v40 autodocs here, and not the includes (lost my damn disks... hopefully I'll be able to grab them again at our next computer club meeting... :-) - and I couldn't find that item IN there, but maybe theres a feature we don't know about in V39+... who knows... >*B) This may be your major problem. Also, the ASL objects are different, but >*B) those are easy to fix, I think :-) > >Hmph. Didn't notice any problems there. What's the diff, >naming? Or structure? Well, I was using a semi-hacked up un-modulized version of the 2.1 asl requester (using a pointer to a filerequester, and then accessing all of the different fields to see what info they held...) so there were a bunch of changes there that I had to make. Also, for the font requester, freq.name is no longer there. You have to go and get freqtattr:=freq.tattr and then get freqtattr.name and freqtattr.ysize (ysize is no longer there either) AND, in the file requester, it's req.drawer not req.dir now. Those are the only ones I could remember. Just takes running the source through EC, re-editing, running through EC, re-editing... :-) I HAVE A BIG SUGGESTION FOR E 3.0!!! Wouter should make a runtime library (the E.library) with some features available to us like debugging. It would be MUCH better than a simple debugger. From here, we could supply the modules we want to search in a taglist, and it could go and check and see if some referenced variable was available... it would be much better and faster for something like EDS or EE to use that than a script. What do ya think? /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!cup.portal.com!WiZkId Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:54 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xg5@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:38:54 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pabHH-0001P5C; Sat, 26 Feb 94 18:30 PST Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pabAY-0000JPC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 18:23 PST Received: from hobo.corp.portal.com (hobo.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.14]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA07694 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 18:24:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (pccop@localhost) by hobo.corp.portal.com (8.6.4/1.21) id SAA22150 for amigae@bkhouse.cts.com; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 18:24:37 -0800 Lines: 38 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 18:24:36 PST Message-ID: <9402261824.1.18837@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) From: WiZkId@cup.portal.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: AmigaGuide Hey, anybody REALLY bored? Could somebody translate SOME FORM of AmigaGuide handling into E for me? I've gone through multiple sources, and what I'm trying to do is almost EXACTLY what PPGUIDE (a program that un-powerpacks a guide file and then loads it into an Amigaguide window through the library) is doing. IN fact, I have gone through and matched it (except for the de-powerpacking) step by step. I've also looked at Term 3.3 source (only stuff I could find locally) and the examples that come with AmigaGuide, and I have yet to have any luck! It really sucks! All I want to do is load an amigaguide doc-file into EDS through the Amigaguide.library. I don't need it to be Asynchronous, and I don't need it to be a Dynamic Node-Host type of thing (I don't REALLY want to go THAT deep into online help, providing information on the program loaded in and the memory situation and all that - not yet anyways :-) I know it can be done SIMPLY (i.e. should be less than 100 lines... should be less than 50 lines!) but most code I've seen involves callback hooks and asynchronous calling and notifying the mother-task and spawning of processes, and being V39 specific (term). I KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARY! AYUGHSDHNSDFJUISHDKNW"SIORJNEWS:LKTRHWOI:LEKHNDWSILK TRHS MRENH"! Ah! Now I feel better... /***************************************************\ | ** ___ __ __ __ _____ _ __ __ __ ** | | ** / // // //_//____ /| | / //_/ | \ ** | | ** / // // /__ _/_/ | |/ / _ ||\ \ ** | | ** / - - // / _/ /__ | |\ \ \ \ ||/ / ** | | ** \________//__/ /______/|_| \_\ \_\|__/ ** | | ** ** | | ** Jeffrey J Peden II ** | | ** WiZkId@cup.portal.com WiZkId@shell.portal.com ** | | ** GammaSoft/A Visual Image ** | | ** Get your copy of EDS V40 Today! ** | |/***************************************************\| ----------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!access.digex.net!gladiatr Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:39:05 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xgb@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 01:39:05 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pabjt-0001okC; Sat, 26 Feb 94 19:00 PST Received: from access3.digex.net by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pabMu-000077C; Sat, 26 Feb 94 18:36 PST Received: by access3.digex.net id AA10858 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:36:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199402270236.AA10858@access3.digex.net> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:36:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 648 From: Donald Holman To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Vector.Library Was wondering if anyone here has used Vector.library v1.6x(I believe it was written by Jurgen Koch) with E. If so, do you mind if I see some of the code? Just picked the library up from aminet last night. Thanks for any info. -Donald =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=[] Donald Holman / gladiatr@access.digex.net []=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= __ __ | | | | "Alright, m'lad-o. The party's over. I've had just about as much | |__| | of this as I'm going to take. And it's no good standing there | __ | with your big macho chest and your silly oiled nipples. Doesn't | | | | impress me one bit." |__| |__| - Arnold Rimmer From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Sun, 27 Feb 94 03:42:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xia@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 03:42:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pairQ-0001vMC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 02:36 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paiXf-00007lC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 02:16 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04351; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 04:17:04 -0600 Message-Id: <9402271017.AA04351@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 04:17:04 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Higginson" at Feb 26, 94 12:18:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1490 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Setting up a usenet E group > I think the ability to read this list from a newsreader would be good, > because I hate having to separate my personal mail from list mail - my > mail program should do it for me, but I don't know how to get it to. > > On the other hand, I think you would have a much higher noise ratio since > everyone on this list at the moment is interested in E (not so with a > newsgroup). You might even find people posting trying to get us to buy > PCs or Macs instead (happens on a lot of Amiga newsgroups). Personally, I am *VERY* opposed to setting up comp.sys.amiga.programmer.e for two reasons: 1) No other programming language for the amiga has their own newsgroup. i.e. There is no comp.sys.amiga.programmer.c or comp.sys.amiga.programmer.amos and I think we don't want to start this trend either. Also, to do this when no other language users have done it would be rude. 2) The reason mailing lists exist is to provide a high quality (low noise) content and I think that making this newsgroup would defy this purpose. Also, consider how many people use E in comparison to C users. Why should we make this group (and make everybody have a copy of it in their news areas) when only a select group of people use it? One might argue that this would be great advertising, but I don't think we want to advertise E until at least 3.0 is ready. There are just too many bugs and inconsistencies at this point to convince an already hard-boiled programmer that E is a viable option. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Sun, 27 Feb 94 03:42:31 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xif@bkhouse.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 94 03:42:31 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pairS-0001guC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 02:36 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paidJ-0000QOC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 02:21 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04372; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 04:22:54 -0600 Message-Id: <9402271022.AA04372@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 04:22:54 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199402261707.MAA04200@freenet.carleton.ca> from "ao443@freenet.carleton.ca" at Feb 26, 94 12:07:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1169 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > > Second, it is "established" because if you show someone one of those > >gadgets, and ask what it is, they will tell you "getfile". If you give > >someone an asterisk and ask what it is, you're not going to get a precise > >result. > > > Perhaps an asterix is a little vague yes. I never asked anyone to analyze my stupid little asterisk. I TOLD everybody that is the character in the button I am going to use. I AM going to do this because it is efficient and small. Any questions? I also asked if anyone would send me source, which would put up a getfile-like button in place of the asterisk (about 1 character wide under topaz 8). No one has sent me anything. Any questions??? > > I also believe it is STANDARD, because look at C='s own > >FOUNTAIN/INTELLIFONT. They use the "non-standard/non-established" getfile > >symbol in a gadget. > Intellifont/Fountain are for some weird reason non style > guide compliant. ^^^^^ A GUIDE, not a hard and fast rule. This isn't Macintrash. I highly doubt C= follows it own GUIDElines 100%. Those GUIDEs are meant for the brainless. Any more questions? Please let this god-awful stupid thread die. From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xj7@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palbP-0001PdC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:32 PST Received: from bos1a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palFI-0000nwC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:09 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9DG1XGK6Y8X1SQ5@delphi.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:09:14 EST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:09:14 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H9DG1XGK708X1SQ5@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Sound in e. Robert, why don't you share your code on using the MED library with us? I think that would help alot of us out.... Eric From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:14 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xjf@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:14 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palbR-0001wbC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:32 PST Received: from bos2a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palKi-0000VLC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:14 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9DG6G570G8X1SQ5@delphi.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:14:46 EST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:14:46 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H9DG6G570I8X1SQ5@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. Gee, I did not think my queston would start a war.... You know all I ask was a simple queston. And what I got was a runaround on it... We should be sharing code here not flaming each other.... BTW I was gone a week and had over a 100 messages in the old mail box... Eric (NES@DELPHI.COM) Chow... From donews!crash!delphi.com!NES Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:22 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xjk@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:33:22 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palbS-0001mmC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:32 PST Received: from bos1a.delphi.com by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0palO4-0000EoC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 05:18 PST Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #6311) id <01H9DGCBHGJA8X1SQ5@delphi.com>; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:18:13 EST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 08:18:13 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <01H9DGCBHGJC8X1SQ5@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: NES@delphi.com To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Vector.Library Donald, I have been working off and on with the vector.library. But have not got it working. I have the vector lib modules in E. But not a working program. I will post it as soon as I get it working Eric From donews!crash!freenet.uwm.edu!gmandic Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:35:12 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xls@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:35:12 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paqmf-0001vvC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 11:04 PST Received: from freenet.uwm.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0paqb8-0000MkC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 10:52 PST Received: by freenet.uwm.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA03766; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 12:52:11 -0600 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 12:52:11 -0600 Message-Id: <9402271852.AA03766@freenet.uwm.edu> From: gmandic@freenet.uwm.edu (Gojko Mandic) To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: E Mailing List Request SUBSCRIBE AmigaE FAQ AmigaE INDEX From donews!crash!nkraft Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:35:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xmb@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:35:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pata2-0002TrC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 14:03 PST Received: by crash.cts.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0patVQ-0000FiC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 13:58 PST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:58:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Higginson" at Feb 26, 94 12:18:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1025 From: "Norman Kraft" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Setting up a usenet E group > I think the ability to read this list from a newsreader would be good, > because I hate having to separate my personal mail from list mail - my > mail program should do it for me, but I don't know how to get it to. One answer to this, for those that can do it, is to set up another email address for AmigaE and hvae the mail sent to that address. A lot of users here are doing this I've noticed, with all the AmigaE-List@... addresses I have in the subscriber list. This may not solve your problem, Dave, but I thought I'd suggest it. Norm. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Kraft INET : nkraft@ucsd.edu (work) Peptide-T Clinical Trial or try: nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (home) HIV Neurobehavioral Research Center UUCP : ucsd!nkraft Dept of Psychiatry, School of Medicine University of California, San Diego Usual disclaimers... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From donews!crash!hull.ac.uk!electronic-engineering.hull.ac.uk!M.C.Askin Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:36:11 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xn1@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:36:11 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pav1k-0002TKC; Sun, 27 Feb 94 15:36 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pauxx-0000y8C; Sun, 27 Feb 94 15:32 PST Received: from adelphi-bf0.ucc.hull.ac.uk by gilbert.ucc.hull.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <09933-0@gilbert.ucc.hull.ac.uk>; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:13:05 +0000 Received: from humus.computer-centre.hull.ac.uk by humus.computer-centre.hull.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <12955-0@humus.computer-centre.hull.ac.uk>; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:32:58 +0000 Via: uk.ac.hull; Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:31:42 +0000 Message-Id: <8665.9402272331@humus.hull.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:31:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5868 From: "M.C.Askin" To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: 1 or 2 beginner questions Hello everybody, I'm new to E, and this list. I've been reading the E list archives on Aminet which have been very helpful, but I hope you can help me with some questions (problems) I've got. I only came by AmigaE 26 days ago, and already programming half decent programs. I'm taking electronic engineering, and one of the leture courses was programming in C. Since this was on PC's I have little idea of how to use the Amiga libraries apart from what I've picked up along the way. I've looked at the examples, and with the help of the GFA Basic book (it has 1.3 library names, and a short blurb about each function), and the AmigaE list I've managed to write several simple DOS utils and a simple intuition thing based on SpriteExample.e, but I don't use sprites, and it's not an example! :-) Heres the questions..(I've been saving them up) 1. What is the best way to clear a window. I've used ClearScreen, but it crashes the machine a treat once you start moving screens about. In GFA Basic I used: CLEARW #1 2. I've tried to make EModules from the Medplayer progmas, and include, but I got an error from Pragma2Module, and OctaMed does not come with a .i file, but a .h file (C definitions). Pragma2Module the output: Amiga E Pragma2Module by $#%! in 1992 converting: "libproto.h" Base will be: medplayerbase Correct name of this library (with the ".library" or ".device"): >medplayer.library found 1 empty or private functions before -66. Pragma file format error! but does seem to make an EModule which looks similar to the others with the correct names. The .h is needed in the examples, but do *I* need it? How can I convert it to a .i? 3. I'd like to get the full path of the current directory (from the root directory), Newlist (a dir util program) does this (even CD does!), but D (Wouter's directory program) doesn't. Also is there a better way of getting the disk name of a specified directory/device than : /* getdevname : Gets the root directory name, i.e. the volume name */ /* specified in the string 'devname', and places the actual volume */ /* name back in 'devname' with the approiate ':' on the end of it */ -----------8<----------------8<----------------------------- PROC getdevname(devname) DEF lock,fib:fileinfoblock IF lock:=Lock(devname,SHARED_LOCK) /* Get a lock on the root dir of the disk */ IF Examine(lock,fib) /* Get the information */ StrCopy(devname,fib.filename,ALL) /* Copy filename to the string */ StrAdd(devname,':',ALL) /* and add a ':' on the end */ ELSE WriteF('Could not get lock on root directory\n') ENDIF UnLock(lock) ENDIF ENDPOC -----------8<----------------8<----------------------------- and if the user asks for bla: and it's not mounted the standard req comes up, anyway of cancelling this? Sometimes something happens to the system and it stops the requesters as if the user clicked on cancel could I make it do this?, or better still... How do I get a list of mounted devices? 4. I've written a very simple direct to disk sampler (goes into a buffer, and when it's full is then saved to disk), however I want to view the samples graphically (I don't know enough to be able to hear them yet). The main problem is that once I subtract 129 from the incoming numbers (at addr $bfe105 - bad programming I know - I don't even setup the port to receive mode) to get the needed positive/negative numbers for IFF samples and save them to disk, I can't do the opposite (i.e. Add 129) to get the 0-255 (or -128 to 129) range of numbers that I can easily plot as they are now positive numbers from 0 to 255 in an odd order, i.e. Upside down for half of the numbers. Someone out there must know what I mean..could they help? I didn't even realise until recently how the samples where held. I wrote elabrate procedures to convert the 0-256 number from my sampler to the values needed for IFF using IF statements!!! 5. Why does this code produce a 'recoverable error' when run with the following line: 1.> ReadArgsTest dest I know that it isn't the corrct usage of args but it shouldn't mess up. ---------8<-------------8<----------- DEF args:PTR TO LONG PROC main() HANDLE DEF rdargs args:=[0] IF rdargs:=ReadArgs('DEST=DESTINATION/K',args,NIL)=0 ENDIF Raise(0) EXCEPT IF rdargs THEN FreeArgs(rdargs) /* Clean up args if used */ ENDPROC ---------8<-------------8<----------- 6. Last question (told you I've been saving them up), how do I draw a filled boxed, in GFA Basic I would do: COLOR col ! Set the colour PBOX x,y,dx,dy ! Draw a filled box with current patten set I would be eternally grateful if some one could answer these (relativily simple, compared to what you normally talk about) questions. Thanks in advance, Myk. (I pronouce it Mike, but stricly speaking it should be pronounced Mick) ps. My computer setup : I have a standard A1200 (OS3) with 170Meg HD, and Trilogic stereo sampler, and a 2400 baud modem. I don't mind using OS2 specific library calls (sorry 1.3 users), so don't go out of your way to make the answers work on any machine if you can't be bothered to. Keep a watch on Aminet (dev/e) for some of my programs (once I've worked out how to upload). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Askin : E Mail address - Look at the Mail Header - Its something like: m.c.askin@electronic-engineering.hull.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My favorite movie/television quotes: 'Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!' - A Dalek from Dr Who Homemade tag lines inc. 5 1994 Michael Askin :-) ======================================================================== From donews!crash!piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk!maths.nott.ac.uk!dp Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:37:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xof@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:37:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb3s8-0002TqC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 01:02 PST Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb3cH-0000oFC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 00:46 PST Received: from piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk by marian.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa20257; 28 Feb 94 8:44 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 08:44:18 GMT Message-Id: <15948.9402280844@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> From: Darren Parr To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Cc: dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. How about this? It seems that the guy using the asterisk is getting flamed alot. Change the * to some other character in some nice font - one thats got a high ascii code. Then edit the font and make your own in an 8x8 grid. A good monspaced font would be hack ( the one that comes with nethack3.1.3) It also has alot of chars in it which are used for walls in the game. Just redefine on of them. BoombOOm (MeXaLaNd) dp@maths.nott.ac.uk From donews!crash!teesside.ac.uk!A.Kennedy Mon, 28 Feb 94 03:45:01 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xp0@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 03:45:01 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb5HE-0001vdC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 02:32 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb4xS-0000l4C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 02:12 PST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by tees.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 10:11:06 GMT Received: from kiki (kiki-r.tees) by scorch; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:13:26 GMT Via: uk.ac.teesside; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 10:11:18 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:13:09 GMT Message-Id: <18780.9402281013@kiki> From: "A.J." Kennedy To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Vector.Library I haven't used the library myself, but I've done plenty of 3d stuff in 68000... I can post my routines if anyone is interested... >Alex From donews!crash!rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de!anh Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:38 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xq9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:38 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb6C1-0002SvC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 03:31 PST Received: from rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb5vu-0000RvC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 03:14 PST Received: from rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de by rbhp89.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA22639; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:14:00 +0100 Received: by rbhp44.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (1.36.108.4/15.6) id AA18820; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:14:08 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:14:04 MEZ Full-Name: Olivier Anh In-Reply-To: <9402251437.AA01104@plucky.safb.af.mil>; from "Barry D Wills" at Feb 25, 94 8:37 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] From: Olivier Anh To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com (The AmigaE Mailing List) Subject: HHEELLPP !!!!! Hi ! I'm coding a GUI for LhA... Working on several problems at the same time, I found that they are going to the same problem : saving a list of string into my own array : I'm reading the rtfilelist (ReqTools.library) and want to save the members filelist.name into my own array of string... This array is used as pointers to string : FOR i:=0 TO 10 DO my-array[i]:=String(100) I try to make a StrCopy(my-array[x], filelist.name,ALL) :-> GURU then assigninga PTR TO CHAR variable to my-array[x] and copy characters per characters in a loop : FOR i:=0 TO EstrLen(filelist.name) DO s[i]:=filelist.name[i] :-> GURU The same problem occurs when I'm reading a file and save each line in my-array2 How can I do that ? Following an example of the second example Thanx -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / / Olivier ANH |' And may the Force be with You ! ' \ X / anh@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de | - Return of the Jedi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /* IntuiSup & own ListView test UNDER WB1.3 */ MODULE 'intuisup', 'graphics/text', 'intuition/intuition', 'intuition/screens', 'libraries/intuisup' ENUM NONE,ERR_INTUISUP,ERR_REQTOOLS,ERR_WINDOW,BRK CONST WIDCMP = IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW OR IDCMP_GADGETUP OR IDCMP_GADGETDOWN OR IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE, WFLAGS = WFLG_DRAGBAR OR WFLG_DEPTHGADGET OR WFLG_CLOSEGADGET OR WFLG_WINDOWACTIVE, MAXGADGET = GADGETSIZE*15, RENDERINFO = 0 DEF win : PTR TO window, scr : PTR TO screen, msg : PTR TO intuimessage, loop, ri, glist, class, code, iaddress, speciallink, txtattr,gaddata, arccontlist[100] : ARRAY PROC main() HANDLE DEF i intuisupbase:=OpenLibrary('intuisup.library',0) IF intuisupbase=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_INTUISUP) scr:=NIL ri:=IgetRenderInfo(scr,RENDERINFO) win:=OpenW(0,11,300,150,WIDCMP,WFLAGS,'Test',0,1,NIL) IF win=NIL THEN Raise(ERR_WINDOW) txtattr:=['topaz',8,0,0] : textattr gaddata:=[ 7,$00000008,10, 16, 16, 82, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 16,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 24,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 32,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 40,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 48,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 56,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 64,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 72,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 80,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 1,$00000806,30, 88,160, 8, 0,txtattr,0,0,0, 0, 0, 0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0] : gadgetdata glist:=IcreateGadgets(ri,gaddata,0,11,NIL) IdisplayGadgets(win,glist) FOR i:=0 TO 99 DO arccontlist[i]:=String(100) IF getarccontent()=FALSE THEN Raise(NONE) loop:=TRUE REPEAT WaitPort(win.userport) msg:=IgetMsg(win.userport) IF CtrlC() THEN Raise(BRK) class:=msg.class code:=msg.code iaddress:=msg.iaddress speciallink:=msg.speciallink IreplyMsg(msg) SELECT class WriteF('Selecting ') CASE IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW WriteF('CloseWindow\n') loop:=FALSE CASE ISUP_ID WriteF('Isup\n') dogadget() ENDSELECT UNTIL loop=FALSE closeall() EXCEPT closeall() IF exception>0 THEN WriteF('Couldn\at \s !\n',ListItem(['do anything', 'open IntuiSup.library', 'open ReqTools.library', 'open Window', 'continue\n*** User Break'], exception)) ENDPROC PROC dogadget() DEF i SELECT code CASE 0 WriteF(' Scroller \d\n',iaddress) Box(30,27,190,107,3) Colour(1,0) FOR i:=0 TO 9 TextF(30,33+(i*8),'\s',arccontlist[i]) ENDFOR DEFAULT WriteF(' Item \d\n',code) ENDSELECT ENDPROC /* getarccontent read a LhA message and only save what is between '-------- ' NOTE : the WriteF() statements are here to debug */ PROC getarccontent() DEF t[512] : STRING, filehandle, ok, i, maxitem, k : PTR TO CHAR WriteF(' Procedure getarccontent()\n') IF FileLength('Esources:ELha.t')=-1 WriteF('GetArcList : Can\at find ELha TempFile !') RETURN FALSE ENDIF IF (filehandle:=Open('Esources:ELha.t',OLDFILE))=NIL WriteF('GetArcList : Can\at open ELha TempFile !') RETURN FALSE ENDIF REPEAT ok:=ReadStr(filehandle,t) UNTIL ((ok=-1) OR (InStr(t,'-------- ',0)=0)) IF InStr(t,'-------- ',0)=0 i:=0 REPEAT ok:=ReadStr(filehandle,t) IF ((ok<>-1) AND (InStr(t,'-------- ',0)=-1)) MidStr(t,t,43,EstrLen(t)-42) INC i WriteF('\s\n - ',t) /* Here are beginning my problems, sniff */ k:=arccontlist[i] FOR ok:=0 TO StrLen(t)+1 WriteF('\c',t[ok]) k[ok]:=t[ok] ENDFOR /* The problems are ending here */ WriteF('\n') ENDIF UNTIL ((ok=-1) OR (InStr(t,'-------- ',0)=0)) ENDIF WriteF('Close\n') Close(filehandle) maxitem:=i IF i<=10 THEN maxitem:=10 WriteF('Displaying') IsetGadgetAttributes(glist,0,0,0,10,maxitem,0) Box(30, 27,190,107,3) Colour(1,0) FOR ok:=0 TO 9 TextF(30, 33+(ok*8),'\d, \s',ok,arccontlist[ok]) ENDFOR WriteF(' End of getarccontent\n') ENDPROC TRUE PROC closeall() IF ri THEN IfreeRenderInfo(ri) IF glist THEN IfreeGadgets(glist) IF intuisupbase THEN CloseLibrary(intuisupbase) IF win THEN CloseW(win) CleanUp(0) ENDPROC From donews!crash!dcs.gla.ac.uk!mccracal Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:48 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xqe@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:48 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb6gS-0002SvC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:02 PST Received: from vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb6EN-000026C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 03:33 PST Received: from attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk by goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk with LOCAL SMTP (PP) id <04471-0@goggins.dcs.gla.ac.uk>; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 11:33:03 +0000 Received: by attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk (4.1/Dumb) id AA04258; Mon, 28 Feb 94 11:32:54 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 11:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <9402281132.AA04258@attu.dcs.gla.ac.uk> From: mccracal@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: fd2module > >> Yep! Definately wand fd2module << > >> Bob Monaghan << > > Not really its easy just get your fd type fd2pragma (if uve got it) > and then use prgama2module > > Its as easy as that! > Unfortunatly, no it isn't. I wrote fd2module because when I tried what you have just suggested it didn't work! Alex McCracken Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization! From donews!crash!cogs.susx.ac.uk!robda Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:57 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xqj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:43:57 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb6gZ-0001o8C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:02 PST Received: from tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb6fu-0000NUC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:02 PST Received: by tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #44) id m0pb6eZ-0001LLC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:00 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:00:47 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <01H9DG1XGK708X1SQ5@delphi.com> from "NES@delphi.com" at Feb 27, 94 08:09:14 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 398 From: "Robert Dabell" To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: MEDPlayer Library > Robert, why don't you share your code on using the MED library with > us? I think that would help alot of us out.... OK then, I'll get it onto the network here tomorrow and post it then. The code is just an example of using the library for _standard_ modules (MMD0 or something like that), a doc file, and the library module, but hopefully that'll be what you need. Later... Robert From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:18 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xr4@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:18 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7eK-0001pyC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:04 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7VK-0000GHC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:55 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:46:00 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:42:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:46:00 GMT Message-Id: <10262.199402281246@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. The amiga is screaming out for standardisation and embellishment. Macs are easy to use not because they are nice, or good hardware, or even worthwhile, but because there is logicand consistency and a little FLAIR to them. When the mac desktop has a programme running, it is ghosted out on the desktop. When you scroll around a window full of programmes, they may read off disk slow, but they don`t flicker... THEY SEEM A LOT MORE _SOLID_ and reliable. Interfaces are nice to use. They will not let you make dumb mistakes, like choose two incompatible settings simultaneously. This is because there is a lot more basis on real-world models. An example.... Remember MUI? :) Remember the nice little `paged` mode, where you could select one out of a few pages using a cycle gadget? Now, on release 2 of MUI, Stefan has updated they cycler to use `tabs` like an address book. The thing is, these two modes of working are NOT THE SAME. Internally, sure, the difference between the two might just be a single flag (if that). But to the user, they are quite seperate ways of viewing the data. I am producing a program where you must pick one of three ways of defining a colour, so there are three `pages` but each page will have different gadgets and information, and the user can only select on page to use. The `tab` gadget, even though MUI uses it like a cycle gadget, is unsuitable-it gives the impression that all data is simultaneous, and it is only the editing which can be done page at a time. The cycler is more suitable here, as it only shows one page at a time, which the user does not see so much as a choice, but as selection (am I making sense? :) The gadget says, 'You have picked this mode of operation, and no other... If you change me, I will cease to be and a different one will take my place`, whereas the tab-selector says `I am a multi-faceted thing but you can only see one part of me... If I had the space, all the (incompatible) elements of me would become simultaneous (and so confusing)`. I really need to be able to sketch and wave my arms about to elaborate properly :) Getfile gadgets are getfile images. Even if you have not seen it before, it is square like the file requester, it is a picture of a file, there is one image in the box as you must pick one file... You get my gist? There is a lot more working in an image or gadget than you may think. If you really are unsure how to gear something, look deep into how your program works (page based, message based, interactive, ...), and look for real-work examples. Stick-it notes, clocks, fuel gauges, fridge magnets, screens, cables are all real-world solutions to the problem of showing how things work in the most succinct, economical, accurate, and logical way. Good software will integrate such devices into their user interface. Great software will _make_ you want to try re-wiring it or slapping notes all over it or pushing things about and re-arranging it. I can have hours of fun with MUI_Prefs and the world-time gadget on the locale prefs is wonderful! Not only do I give it input, but it responds, showing me time zones all over the world! Now, that`s a gadget to die for... Remember your intution style guide! Be bold! And if anyone would like any help on their userr interface (or even want it writing) please contact me, I would love to contribute! UWP (NB: I am _not_ trying to get at anyone! :) From donews!crash!emh.kadena.af.mil!mckinnej Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:27 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xr9@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:27 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7eL-0002SMC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:04 PST Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7VX-0000GHC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:55 PST Received: by emh.kadena.af.mil (5.60 pl1/25-eef) id AA19551; Mon, 28 Feb 94 21:44:14 JST Message-Id: <9402282144.AA19551@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:44:10 +0000 (JST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 264 From: James Mckinney To: amigae@bkhouse.cts.com (AmigaE List) Subject: Allocating Chip RAM Have any of tried to build your own "busy" pointers? If so, how did you do it? I see in the RKM that the data for the pointer must be in chip RAM. Did you have to use AllocMem() to get the chip RAM or is there another trick to use. Thanks. Later, Jim From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:36 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xre@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:36 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb83J-0001pyC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:30 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7gw-0000ouC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:07 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:01:21 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:58:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:01:21 GMT Message-Id: <11711.199402281301@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. No-one is flaming anyone for using asterisks. :) I might have got a little wound up, granted. When you work with a bunch of computer geeks all day on macs, and when they mean to say `I need access to a computer` they say `I need to do some type on an applemac (one word)` and the amiga is constantly discounted by your ignoramus tutor because `it isn`t standard` you too would want a little consistency for your favourite (and heavily-invested in) machine. Making _another_ font is _NOT_ a solution. Fonts are fonts, not symbols. If it`s any use, should I try writing a bunch of PROCs that create standard style gadgets and do some basic user-interface style events? (and no, I`m not having a guilt trip... :) UWP From donews!crash!access.digex.net!gladiatr Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:44 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xrj@bkhouse.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:42:44 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb83J-0001vdC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:30 PST Received: from access3.digex.net by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb7g4-0000NUC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:06 PST Received: by access3.digex.net id AA17159 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com); Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:06:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199402281306.AA17159@access3.digex.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:06:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <18780.9402281013@kiki> from "A.J." Kennedy" at Feb 28, 94 10:13:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 214 From: Donald Holman To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Vector.Library > > I haven't used the library myself, but I've done plenty of 3d stuff in > 68000... I can post my routines if anyone is interested... > > >Alex Would love to see those routines, Alex. Thanks. -Donald From donews!crash!plucky.ike.safb.af.mil!bwills Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:36:24 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xs6@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:36:24 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb8WG-0002TuC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 06:00 PST Received: from kirk.safb.af.mil by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb862-0000WDC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:33 PST Received: from ike (ike [140.175.6.44]) by kirk.safb.af.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA01621 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 07:32:43 -0600 Received: from plucky.safb.af.mil by ike (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14445; Mon, 28 Feb 94 07:28:44 CST Received: by plucky.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01942; Mon, 28 Feb 94 07:30:24 CST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 07:30:24 CST Message-Id: <9402281330.AA01942@plucky.safb.af.mil> From: bwills@plucky.safb.af.mil (Barry D Wills) To: Subject: Re: Sound in e. *B) It's just suppose to play an analog sound, I'm shure all the source is *B) included. This is a simple example from the Rom Kernal. It appears to me that the only thing "missing" in the source is the audio.device's BeginIO(), which is in -- can you guess? -- amiga.lib! $%!!#!# I have the source translated all but that one statement. I sent a query to a asm-head friend :-), waiting to see if he comes up with some code for the body of that function. -- Barry From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ae432 Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:36:35 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xsb@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:36:35 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb8WH-0002SWC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 06:00 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb8Al-0000eYC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 05:38 PST Received: from freenet2.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03191; Mon, 28 Feb 94 08:38:30 EST Received: from localhost (ae432@localhost) by freenet2.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA14703; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:37:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:37:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199402281337.IAA14703@freenet2.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ae432@freenet.carleton.ca From: ae432@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rick Savoury) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. >From bkhouse!crash!MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU!UMLANGSTON@crash.cts.com Fri Sep 24 07:00:59 1993 > >Well all, > I'm back from Germany and working away on some programs. I had a few >things to say/ask: > >[...] > >Where I am: Well, I'm currently working on SDM. Now up to 0.3a. > SDM stands for Sparse Distributed Memory. basically a holographic > storage system. The version I'm working on now will learn to read > text...anything. Books, newspapers, term papers, you name it. I > have most of the routines either coded or planned, at least as far > as having it correctly recognize concepts, categories, and predict > word sequences (I'm using pop science texts, but will move on to fiction > soon). > >So. That's where my projects are so far. All the others I listed (except > the TIERRA port) will be using SDM as the foundation for their functioning. > I get this thing working, everything else is pretty much downhill. Any updates? -- If you had half as much fun reading this as I had writing it 0/ __o I had twice as much fun as you!! ,,, <| _`\< _ (o o) / > --(_)/ (_)------ae432@Freenet.carleton.ca------ooO-(_)-Ooo-- From donews!crash!hermes.cam.ac.uk!dmh1002 Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:37:40 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xtq@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:37:40 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb9Uu-0001wBC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 07:03 PST Received: from ppsw2.cam.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pb9Mv-0000oNC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 06:54 PST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw2.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <12295-1@ppsw2.cam.ac.uk>; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 14:54:26 +0000 Received: from hermes.cam.ac.uk by black.csi.cam.ac.uk id <09179-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 14:54:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 14:55:22 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk From: Dave Higginson To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: HHEELLPP !!!!! On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, Olivier Anh wrote: > I'm reading the rtfilelist (ReqTools.library) and want to save the members > filelist.name into my own array of string... > This array is used as pointers to string : > FOR i:=0 TO 10 DO my-array[i]:=String(100) How did you define my-array? Come to think of it, how did you manage to get a minus sign in a variable name? > I try to make a StrCopy(my-array[x], filelist.name,ALL) :-> GURU If you change this to x*4+my-array, I am sure all will be OK. You should also be sure that your strings are actually big enough to hold the data, otherwise you may start overwriting other memory (not sure if E handles this for you or not). > then assigninga PTR TO CHAR variable to my-array[x] and copy characters per > characters in a loop : > FOR i:=0 TO EstrLen(filelist.name) DO s[i]:=filelist.name[i] :-> GURU Again, the [] notation is very easy to misuse and type something that you really didn't mean. Dave +-- // David Higginson, dmh1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk \X/ Churchill College, Cambridge, CB3 0DS, UK From donews!crash!teesside.ac.uk!A.Kennedy Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:40:12 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xx2@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:40:12 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbCLM-0002SZC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:05 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbCJl-0000xfC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:03 PST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by tees.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 17:50:48 GMT Received: from slc19 (slc19.tees) by scorch; Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:53:08 GMT Via: uk.ac.teesside; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 17:51:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:53:03 GMT Message-Id: <1926.9402281753@slc19> From: "A.J." Kennedy To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: Vector.Library > >I haven't used the library myself, but I've done plenty of 3d stuff in > >68000... I can post my routines if anyone is interested... > > Yeah go ahead! > > Have fun > Alan > Will do... I'll post to this list - unless I get any objections... Alex From donews!crash!westminster.ac.uk!vaald Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:40:25 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xxa@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:40:25 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbCLN-0002SKC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:05 PST Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbCJZ-00006uC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:03 PST Received: (user vaald (rfc1413)) by badger.westminster.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:55:37 GMT Via: uk.ac.westminster; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:52:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:55:37 GMT Message-Id: <1693.199402281655@newbadger.westminster.ac.uk> From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Getfile Gadgets... Okay, okay, I`m the big evil guy for whining about interfaces... :) I`ve been thinking about this one. Commodore have botched up badly here, they need a gadtools gadget which contains a bunch of standard images, such as scroll buttons, getfile gadgets, magnifying glasses, all that kinda stuff. What do we get? Oh well... In the meantime, we have a problem. There are a number of solutions... 1: Replace the image with the words "Pick file...". CBM have done this themselves in the WBFont preferences programme This is not a nice way about it because lots of text on a window and no graphics is REALLY ugly! 2: Use MUI. This is another nice solution, but MUI has it`s own problems... like the difficulty of setting up HUGE structures for anything, and that it all feels a little too `rubbery` and not concrete enough. 3: Create a `getfile.gadget` library This would have to be a new gadget library, kinda like the colorwheel and gradientslider .gadgets, but again... E in it`s present state is not too well inclined towards creating these types of things and I don`t have any docs on how to do it... 4: Create a `AddGetFile(window,x,y,w,h)` function which can be included directly into the E source. This may well be the best way of doing this at the moment. Unless anyone can think of a better way of doing things, I`ll have a go at writing one in a desperate effort to redeem myself :) I have written some code which will place an image in a window as a datatype, the advantage of which is it remaps and gets any pens it needs automatically. This could be really useful as it is only a few lines long and will let you create lovely-looking windows... :) I`ll post it as soon as I manage to make it more flexible and return intuimessages and draw borders and stuff... hey, I can smell a solution to the getfile problem here...! ;) Uhhh, can anyone tell me how the unix mail command works inside out as well? And how VI works? And if there are any better editors? This is one of the main reasons for my lack of useful postings here. And if anyone wants to know a way of producing font-sensitive interfaces, mail me. My way is harder than using gadtoolsbox, but produces better looking results. UWP From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:41:05 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xy5@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:41:05 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbDG9-0001mnC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 11:04 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbD3L-00004HC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:50 PST Received: from freenet.carleton.ca by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20242; Mon, 28 Feb 94 13:51:17 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA18394; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:50:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:50:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199402281850.NAA18394@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: 1 or 2 beginner questions (pt. 2) >5. Why does this code produce a 'recoverable error' when run with the >following line: >1.> ReadArgsTest dest >I know that it isn't the corrct usage of args but it shouldn't mess up. > >---------8<-------------8<----------- >DEF args:PTR TO LONG Here's the error. This should be a list or ARRAY OF LONG. You are putting your rdargs results into a totally random bit of memory. >6. Last question (told you I've been saving them up), how do I draw a >filled boxed, in GFA Basic I would do: > >COLOR col ! Set the colour >PBOX x,y,dx,dy ! Draw a filled box with current patten set > Real simple. Make sure you have stdrast set to your open window.. Colour(fg,bg) RectFill() Jez.. can't remember the order.. If you need the data, I'll post it. Welcome to the E programming community dude. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!cap.gwu.edu!gbritton Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:41:59 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xzd@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:41:59 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbEic-0002SeC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:37 PST Received: from cap.gwu.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbEBi-00001hC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:03 PST Received: by cap.gwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01333; Mon, 28 Feb 94 15:04:05 EST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 15:02:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8665.9402272331@humus.hull.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: "Gerald C. Britton" To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: 1 or 2 beginner questions The MEDPlayer library C include files need to be edited inorder to be converted to EModules. Seperate the MED from OctaMED function calls and save them in seperate files. Then try using Pragma2Module. /// Gerald - Britton _ /// _(_)_ \\\ /// gbritton@cap.gwu.edu (_)_(_) \\X// gbritton@freenet.fsu.edu //// From donews!crash!cap.gwu.edu!gbritton Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:42:08 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xzi@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:42:08 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbEie-0001w9C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:37 PST Received: from cap.gwu.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbEJ0-00000oC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:11 PST Received: by cap.gwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02741; Mon, 28 Feb 94 15:11:37 EST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 15:08:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: "Gerald C. Britton" To: AmigaE Mailing List Subject: MMD0Player.e Here is a simpe example of how to use the MEDPlayer.library from E. The MEDPlayer emodule was created w/Pragma2Module from the .h file. --- 8< --- MODULE 'MEDPlayer' PROC main() DEF m[120]:STRING, mod=NIL, err=NIL m := arg IF (medplayerbase := OpenLibrary('medplayer.library',2)) IF (err := GetPlayer(0)) = NIL IF (mod := LoadModule(m)) PlayModule(mod) WriteF('Playing module "\s"\n', m) WHILE Mouse() <> 3 ; ENDWHILE StopPlayer() UnLoadModule(mod) ELSE WriteF('*** ERROR: Unable to load module "\s"\n', m) ENDIF ELSE WriteF('*** ERROR: Unable to get player\n') ENDIF FreePlayer() CloseLibrary(medplayerbase) ELSE WriteF('*** ERROR: Unable to open MEDPlayer.library v2.00\n') ENDIF ENDPROC /// Gerald - Britton _ /// _(_)_ \\\ /// gbritton@cap.gwu.edu (_)_(_) \\X// gbritton@freenet.fsu.edu //// From donews!crash!fwi.uva.nl!oortmers Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:42:23 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1xzu@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:42:23 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbF75-0001PuC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 13:02 PST Received: from mail.fwi.uva.nl by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbElL-00002pC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:40 PST Received: from gene.fwi.uva.nl by mail.fwi.uva.nl with SMTP (5.65c/5.1) id AA27453; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:40:10 +0100 Received: by gene.fwi.uva.nl id AA03870; Mon Feb 28 21:40:07 1994 Message-Id: <199402282040.AA03870@gene.fwi.uva.nl> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:40:07 +0100 Return-Path: X-Organisation: Faculty of Mathematics & Computer Science University of Amsterdam Plantage Muidergracht 24 NL-1018 TV Amsterdam The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 525 5200 X-Telex: 16460 facwn nl X-Fax: +31 20 525 5101 From: oortmers@fwi.uva.nl (Wouter van Oortmerssen (Alfa_Inf92)) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: v39 modules, usenet, etc. -> I converted asm includes v40.13 into Amiga E modules this week-end -> using IConvert. But I had a lot of problems with A68K/asm include format. -> I think I fixed them in 95% of the cases, but for the remaining 5%, I can't -> assure you that the conversion is perfect. Anyway, those problems are local -> to rarely used modules (like card.m). Everybody is of course free to use these modules, but I should warn that this may cause problems when your sources get incompatible to official Amiga E module distributions. If there really is a big demand for the v39 modules, I'm willing to release the ones I made to aminet prior to the release of E v3.0. I understand there must be a lot of people wanting to program with v39, and I never thought it would take me long to get a new version out. A slight problem is ofcourse the v39 intuition etc library definitions, since these are in the compiler. -> > Hello! Has anyone asked about getting an usenet group (just like -> > i-amiga) so people have two ways of posting/accessing this group. I would I agree this would be nice. -> I think the ability to read this list from a newsreader would be good, -> because I hate having to separate my personal mail from list mail - my -> mail program should do it for me, but I don't know how to get it to. well, this specific problem could be solved if only the mailing-list software prefixed all subjects by something like 'E:' [...] -> 1) No other programming language for the amiga has their own newsgroup. -> i.e. There is no comp.sys.amiga.programmer.c or someone has got to start. the volume of this list justifies a newsgroup more than enough. indeed, having our own newsgroup before C would be a bit weird, but then again should we wait until those C folk realise for themselves they want a newsgroup? -> 2) The reason mailing lists exist is to provide a high quality (low noise) -> content and I think that making this newsgroup would defy this purpose. what you forget is that with a newsreader, its easier to 'ignore' the noise of a group. Also, somebody could act as moderator, atleast for those who want to read it by mail. -> Also, consider how many people use E in comparison to C users. Why should -> we make this group (and make everybody have a copy of it in their news -> areas) when only a select group of people use it? One might argue that well, >90% of all newsgroups are quite a bit smaller than the E one would be. And don't underestimate the growing #of people with atleast some interest in E (but not enough to get on the list). If we don't want to be at war with the C users, it would be a good idea to propose a split of c.s.a.programmer for the main programming languages at once, i.e. C, C++, E, Asm... -> this would be great advertising, but I don't think we want to advertise E I don't think advertising is the point here. [...] -> I HAVE A BIG SUGGESTION FOR E 3.0!!! Wouter should make a runtime library -> (the E.library) with some features available to us like debugging. It would could you explain this idea to me further (in a private mail, maybe?). Wouter ____ Wouter van Oortmerssen, Wouter@alf.let.uva.nl / __/ "Nobody with a good car needs to be justified" / __/ -Ministry, Jesus built my hotrod /___/ E mailing list: amigae-request@bkhouse.cts.com From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:10 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y0t@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:10 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbGVy-0001wXC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:32 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbGEl-00003dC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:14 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA03623; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:15:39 -0600 Message-Id: <9402282215.AA03623@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:15:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <8665.9402272331@humus.hull.ac.uk> from "M.C.Askin" at Feb 27, 94 11:31:51 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 657 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: 1 or 2 beginner questions Myk, Please do us and yourself the following favors: 1. Read ALL of the E docs that came in the package. I know that 1 or 2 of your questions can be solved that way. 2. Get the RKMs (just the Library and Devices should do) and those will answer the rest of your questions. 3. The autodocs would be extrememely helpful also, but you can get by with the two RKMs mentioned above. This may not seem helpful, but it is. There is no substitute for getting your information straight from the source. All the examples off the net you can get aren't worth those two RKMs. This is especially true if you plan on producing quality software. From donews!crash!mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu!platt Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:26 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y15@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:26 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbGW3-0001PtC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:32 PST Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbGMM-0000HgC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:22 PST Received: by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA03800; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:23:40 -0600 Message-Id: <9402282223.AA03800@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:23:39 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <15948.9402280844@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> from "Darren Parr" at Feb 28, 94 08:44:18 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 595 From: platt@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Vincent Platt) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. > > How about this? > It seems that the guy using the asterisk is getting flamed alot. > Change the * to some other character in some nice font - one thats got a high > ascii code. > Then edit the font and make your own in an 8x8 grid. > A good monspaced font would be hack ( the one that comes with nethack3.1.3) > It also has alot of chars in it which are used for walls in the game. > Just redefine on of them. This is a good idea, except that I would then have to include this new version of the font in the package. Most people don't want a new font for every little program they use. From donews!crash!ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu!ecorbin Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:37 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y1b@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:37 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbH1z-0002SoC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 15:05 PST Received: from ezmail1.ucs.indiana.edu by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbGlh-0000GRC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:48 PST Received: by ezmail1.ucs.indiana.edu (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14170; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 17:48:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 17:47:34 -0400 (EST) In-Reply-To: <18780.9402281013@kiki> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: ecorbin To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: Vector.Library On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, A.J. Kennedy wrote: > > I haven't used the library myself, but I've done plenty of 3d stuff in > 68000... I can post my routines if anyone is interested... Post! Post! I love having algorithms to play with. Earl C. ecorbin@indiana.edu From donews!crash!freenet.carleton.ca!ao443 Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:55 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y1n@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:43:55 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbI0e-0001vfC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 16:08 PST Received: from freenet-news.carleton.ca by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbI0F-000023C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 16:07 PST Received: from by freenet-news.carleton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AB08148; Mon, 28 Feb 94 19:08:27 EST Received: from localhost (ao443@localhost) by freenet.carleton.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA10948; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:38:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 13:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199402281838.NAA10948@freenet.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca From: ao443@freenet.carleton.ca (Jason Maskell) To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com Subject: Re: 1 or 2 beginner questions (wow, 1 or 2?) >1. What is the best way to clear a window. I've used ClearScreen, but it Well, in Intuition borders etc are part of the window, and so can be cleared, so this is a little trickier than in another high level such as GFA or Amos. There's two ways you can do this, one requires some playing around, and one is just real simple. The simple one first. Call SetRast(,), and then just RefreshWindowFrame(), I believe. This is NOT the nice way to do it, but it will work. The other way is pretty easy, but has a higher function count. Use LockPubScreen() to find the size of the title bar.(In screen.barheight) Get the window size data from teh window structure, and calculate the actual window area from that and the title bar size. Then use EraseRect() to nuke the relevant data. This is very vague, and I can post An example if needed. Gotta log off and save.. Answer the rest in another message. -- 'You see son, if this were Star Trek, we'd be negotiating with this Kobold.' - Unknown Angband Player From donews!crash!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA!3NDS3 Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:44:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y2t@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:44:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbJlU-0001PXC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 18:00 PST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbJOh-0000JiC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:37 PST Received: from QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8405; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:34:52 EST Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA (NJE origin 3NDS3@QUCDN) by QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1779; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:34:52 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:32:21 EST In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:25 -0500 from From: 3NDS3 <3NDS3@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> To: The AmigaE Mailing List Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools. On Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:25 -0500 said: >> Second, it is "established" because if you show someone one of those >>gadgets, and ask what it is, they will tell you "getfile". If you give >>someone an asterisk and ask what it is, you're not going to get a precise >>result. >> > Perhaps an asterix is a little vague yes. Gee, in my latest project I'm using an exclamation point for that exact purpose. As we ALL know, the exclamation point is the true sine qua non of "non-graphic" file requestors. I'm afraid the asterisk is non-standard. :-) Repeat after me: It just doesn't matter. Dave From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:39 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y40@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:39 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbM9a-0002UFC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:33 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbLtl-0000WMC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:17 PST Received: from synapse.org (uucp@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id XAA21689 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 23:17:20 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id EDFF5C; Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.114412.1351.0CEDFF5C@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:42:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: fd2module -> Message-ID: <11912.9402250858@piaggio.maths.nott.ac.uk> -> >> Yep! Definately wand fd2module << -> >> Bob Monaghan << -> -> Not really its easy just get your fd type fd2pragma (if uve got it) and then -> use prgama2module -> -> Its as easy as that! -> -> BoomBoom (mexaland) -> dp@maths.nott.ac.uk Nahh, I'm just lazy. I'd rather do it in one step instead of 2-3 steps. Bob Monaghan... From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:47 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y45@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:47 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbM9b-0001NlC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:33 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbLuf-00009pC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:18 PST Received: from synapse.org (uucp@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id XAA21698 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 23:18:03 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id EDFF5E; Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.114414.1351.0CEDFF5E@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:46:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: Sound in e. Ahhh! I'll take a look at the RKMs to see what can be done.. Bob Monaghan... From donews!crash!synapse.org!bob.monaghan Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:56 PST Received: by bkhouse.cts.com (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <1y4a@bkhouse.cts.com>; Tue, 1 Mar 94 01:45:56 PST Received: from crash by donews.cts.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbM9b-0001vrC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:33 PST Received: from uusynap.synapse.org by crash.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0pbLuA-0000VPC; Mon, 28 Feb 94 20:17 PST Received: from synapse.org (uucp@localhost) by uusynap.synapse.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id XAA21695 for AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 23:17:47 -0500 Received: by synapse.org (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id EDFF5D; Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <1d.114413.1351.0CEDFF5D@synapse.org> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:45:00 -0500 Organization: Babillard Synapse Inc. - (819) 246-2344 From: bob.monaghan@synapse.org (Bob Monaghan) To: AMIGAE@BKHOUSE.CTS.COM Subject: Re: Sound in e. -> Message-ID: -> > BTW.. Does anyone out there have the source (and documentation on) for > -> the SOundtracker format? I want to try and write an ST mod player, (and > -> perhaps later on a MOD. datatype. -> -> I'd suggest you convert the modules into MED format, then use the player -> library to do all the hard work for you. The includes for MED convert with -> no problems, as I've done this myself :-) -> -> Ciao, -> Robert Hmmm. there's an Idea... I'll have to take a look at that route. Thanks! Bob Monaghan.