From ias-owner@artworks.apana.org.au Thu Jan 4 11:32:17 1996 Received: from artworks.apana.org.au (root@artworks.apana.org.au [203.12.237.186]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with ESMTP id LAA19717 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:31:47 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by artworks.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA18833 for ias-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:12:21 +1100 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:12:21 +1100 From: owner-ias@artworks.apana.org.au Message-Id: <199601040612.RAA18833@artworks.apana.org.au> To: ias@artworks.apana.org.au Subject: IAS: January 1996 Newsletter Sender: owner-ias@artworks.apana.org.au Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ias@artworks.apana.org.au Status: R {========================================================================} { File Name : 'January96.txt', 04-Jan-96 } {========================================================================} /\ \/ ___ __ ___ __ _ /\ ||\ /|| || // \ /\ / | o __ _ o / \\ ||\\ / || || // _ / \\ / / / / / /_//-/_ / /_ /_/ /___\\ || \\ / || || \\ | /___\\ /__/ / /_/ /_ / _// /_ / / \\_|| \V ||__||_ \\_/ / \\__________________________/___ {========================================================================} { } { Diversity : The Official Journal of the International Amiga Society } { Editor: James Burton ( James@Snark.apana.org.au ) } { Volume 2, Issue 1, 04-Jan-96 } { } {========================================================================} Contents * News * IAS Project Reports * Reader Mail * Next Month... * Credits & Contributions {========================================================================} { News } {========================================================================} By the time you read this the hangovers will have faded and the time will have come to think forward to the new year. What will happen this year, and what will you do to make the world a better place? According to what we already know we will see several new releases from Amiga Technologies and the IAS can also have a year of strength. From AT we should see the long awaited A1200+ and the "Internet Station" in the first few months of the year. What happens after that is either not decided or being kept secret. We do know that several old Amiga faces are being contracted to work on the operating system, and that Phase V's "PowerUp" board is due (available to developers) early in the year. This tells us that things really must be boiling in the offices at Bensheim. Let's hope that AT through Gilles Bourdin don't forget us out here on the internet. We are the people that have kept the flame alight. We are the centre of their business, and now that we are getting organised via the IAS we, the users, can really begin to help build a solid global industry. The IAS also has a bumper year planned. Early in the year we hope to get some "audience involvement" happening. In the background we need to start encouraging software and hardware development, as well as promoting and supporting the use of Amiga equipment in creative solutions. The areas that need attacking are graphics, video and audio. The IAS should be heavily involved with supporting these activities. We need freely distributable tutorials, we need reviews of equipment purchases, we need to set up "help lines" and maybe even produce starter kits for beginners. In fact if the IAS was to produce a starter kit for the A1200+ on CD-ROM (the A1200+ reputedly will have a CD drive) containing an install script that would install various utilities from AmiNet I don't see that AT would be adverse to including it in the A1200+ package as standard. We also need to set up a translating team to translate all manner of documents into various languages. Initially just the major European languages, but eventually we should be able to make everybody happy. It would also be nice to be able to make the IAS a more concrete organisation by having direct representation on the ground. What if we had action teams from each usergroup, who could make things happen locally. As usual I am going to end by saying that I'm not necessarily going to do any of this. These are just ideas that nobody has grabbed yet. So if you might be interested in helping to organise some of this then please get in touch. New Newsgroup ============= My newsreader just asked me whether or not I wanted to subscribe to a new newsgroup called 'comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95'. I thought this fact might get a few laughs. We don't even have a newsgroup for talking about our operating system let alone setting up the latest version. One assumes that setting it up is not particularly easy. Workbench Snap Competition ========================== This competition was supposed to give everybody a feeling of involvement. I always thought that everybody wanted to show off their particular workbench configuration to the world. It would seem that this was a serious miscalculation. People only do things when a prize or remuneration of some kind is involved. I thought that collecting a series of workbench snaps would not only show off the beauty and configurability of the Amiga's graphic interface, but also advertise the strength on the ground that the Amiga has in terms of software, both free and commercial. Yet despite running this for two months we have received a total of 3 entries in that period. None of them were "adverts" although that opportunity does exist. So it would seem that there are only 3 IAS members who want to show their creativity, their humour, their productivity to the rest of the world. I would dearly like to receive some correspondance on this matter. If you think this is a bad idea or a waste of time please let me know. Alternatively if you are the sort of person who could come up with a prize to enliven everybody, please do so with all speed. Anyway this month's winner is coincidentally the only entrant. Dave Naylor (knocker@frost3.demon.co.uk) got a total score of 53 from a maximum of 80 points. You can check out the snaps on WBSnap - http://Snark.apana.org.au/IAS/WBSnap/ [ Ed. I was going to put my workbench up for everybody to see but I can't find any software to snap a 1280x1024x256 Picasso screen. Maybe I'll have to write it myself - damn.] AMIL - A list of everything =========================== NOTE: The newest version of AMIL can always be found on Aminet AMIL - docs/hyper/AMIL_xxxx.lha Welcome to AMIL (Amiga Main Internet List). This is (or at least tries to be) a full (???) listing of every (???) person - company - dealer - group - BBS - mailing list - newsgroup - zine related to the Amiga. Extra goodies include all Aminet sites and a lot of WWW Resources. Let's try to make it clearer. This guide contains the following : 1. People/Persons. That includes : - Programmers/Coders - Music/Gfx Artists - Hardware/Software Designers - Managers - Producers Additional information includes : - Company working for - E-Mail address - WWW address - IRC Nickname/Channel - Fidonet address - Notes about the person - "Projects" that the person has "created" 2. Companies. That includes : - Hardware/Software Distribution Companies - Hardware/Software Development Companies - Software Houses Additional information includes : - E-Mail address - FTP address - WWW address - Fidonet address - Activities - Products that are developed/distributed 3. Dealers/Vendors. That includes : - Hardware/Software Dealers - Hardware/Software Vendors Additional information includes : - E-Mail address - FTP address - WWW address - Fidonet address - Products that are distributed 4. Groups/Teams. That includes : - Programming Groups/Teams - Demo Groups/Teams - Gfx/Sfx Studios Additional information includes : - E-Mail address - FTP address - WWW address - Fidonet address - Activities - Products that are developed/distributed 5. BBS. That inlcudes all kinds of BBS dealing with Amiga. Additional information includes : - Sysop Name - E-Mail address - FTP address - Telnet address - Fidonet address - Amiganet address - Phone Lines (+modem type) 6. Mailing Lists. That includes all kinds of Mailing Lists/List Servers dealing with Amiga. Additional information includes : - E-Mail address - (Un)Subscribe address - (Un)Subscribe commands - Mail address - FTP address - Notes about the mailing list 7. Newsgroups. That includes all Usenet Newsgroups dealing with Amiga. Additional information includes : - Notes about the newsgroup - Moderator name/e-mail, if the newsgroup is moderated. 8. Zines. That includes Zines in electronic and "printed" form. Additional information includes : - E-Mail address - WWW address - Editor name/e-mail 9. Aminet Sites. That includes all sites that mirror the whole (or part of) Aminet. Additional information includes : - Country - Site name - IP address - Aminet path - Number of files mirrored 10. WWW Resources. Tassos Hadjithomaoglou (chatasos@teia.ariadne-t.gr) Amusing Amiga! ============== Tired of the usuall dull and boring technical information found on most Amiga webpages? Tired of pages that never updates or get refreshed? Looking for something to waste some time on? Well then, read on! This is the annoncement of the first 'infotainment' webpage dedicated to the Amiga only. You might have read about it back in AmigaReport 3.19, but until now, I have been busy figuring out how to organize, design and set up the service. The object of the webpage is to create a place that everyone can stop for a few minutes and enjoy themselves. All (or most) text is dedicated directly to the computer we all love - the Amiga. Anecdotes, stories, tricks, how someone has used his or her Amiga in a specially clever or different way, people on other platforms stupidity, amazing hardware and software, records of computerkind, etc., etc. To simply put it: as long as it either fun or interesting, and involves the Amiga in some way, it qualifies for the page! Currently only a few articles have been added, but already the page is shaping up. However, it's now we are coming to the main point: how much I ever want, I can't collect and supply information in the amount needed! I need help to make this happen! This is not my page! This is OUR page! If you like it, and want it to survive, YOU must contribute! If you don't like the appearance, atleast tell me! If I get many diffrent suggestions, I'll arrange a voting! But without feedback it's impossible to know what to do. So, how is this page maintained? Well, the main reason why most homepages never or seldom gets updated, is that the person responsible for it either works in an alien and/or unfriendly environment, ie. Unix and PC, or that the process for uploading the information to the www directory (usually the homedirectory) involves so many cumbersome steps that only the thought of doing it, discourages even the most determinded writer. I soon realised this and developed an arexx script that automatically checks if there is files to upload or directories to make, and simultaenously maintaines the files, inserts datestrings etc. In the development is also a routine that creates and maintaince a history index, which contains links to each article that have been uploaded. This makes it easier (not to say possible!) to resume reading from the previous location. Ok, if you have a giant setting for your global history file in your web browser, you may maybe succed in remembering which articles you have read but I doubt it. The history index file will contain links in historical order (hence the name :) and an user can jump in reading from the date of the latest visit. What is now the name of this amazing page? Well, actually it has no real name sofar, only a work name: 'Funny Stories', which I after long discussions have determinded to discard. If you have a suggestion, please tell me. Check out the page at: Amusing Amiga - http://artworks.apana.org.au/~johan/iasf/ Although this URL is subject to change, it will be valid for the predictable future. Contributions, questions, suggestions, etc. can be sent to: IAS-Funny@artworks.apana.org.au Once again: I need YOUR contribution! NOW! (Sounds like Uncle Sam :) Johan Torin - Halmstad, Sweden - johan@artworks.apana.org.au The latest on the world-wide web ================================ - SLIP Emulators For those of you without SL/IP or PPP access to the internet, you probably make do with a UNIX shell account of some kind. The joke here is that to get something more satisfying you will need to shell out more money. But you can have more just using the shell account. Most of you will already have figured this out. What you need is a SLIP emulator which pretends to do SLIP over the terminal connection. There are several options here. SLiRP - http://blitzen.canberra.edu.au/slirp/ SLiRP features a program that runs on the UNIX computer that actually talks real SLIP protocol (or PPP if you prefer) so that AmiTCP can be set up on the Amiga side with either SLIP or PPP. There are some restrictions MultiLink - http://www.warped.com/~ezy/mlink/mlink.html MLink or Multilink contains a TCP protocol stack (emulates both AS225 and AmiTCP) and an encapsulation for TCP/IP packets so that if you install both the UNIX part of the software and the Amiga part you will effectively have the same as SLiRP but it is Amiga specific and much easier to set up. TIA - http://marketplace.com/tia/ The Internet Adapter is essentially the same as SLiRP except that it costs $US30. By the way, if you are trying to set up internet software and are having trouble, then try the beginner's page. Amiga Internet for Beginners - http://atlantis.ucc.ie/amiga-net/MAIN.HTML - WEB Servers When you have got a permanent connection for your Amiga (when not if), you want to make it permanently available on the network 24 hours a day right? We Amigans have an axe to grind, preferably on the heads of MS-Windows users. So you will want to get a web server up and running immediately. Here are a few that I've found. Amiga Web Server - http://www.phone.net/aws/ I have been running this for 6 months or so and it works wonderfully. You can write CGI scripts using the interpreter of your choice, including ARexx. My A3000 system is currently transferring more than 50MBytes a month just through AWS. It is easy to set up, but currently requires AmiTCP. NCSA HTTPd - http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/Overview.html There is an Amiga port of this server at http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/AMosaic/ftpdir/httpd.lha Apparently there are some CGI differences (see http://www.phone.net/amiga-docs/ ) - Printer Drivers Canon have an extensive web service, the only part of which would interest Amiga users are the printer drivers. Here are a selection. CANON BJxx Printer Drivers - http://www.europe.canon.com/drivers/bj/ The drivers for BJxx printers BJ10 - http://www.europe.canon.com/drivers/bj10/ The drivers specifically for the BJ10 bubble-jet printer Amiga Drivers - http://www.europe.canon.com/drivers/bj/ami/ All the Amiga drivers for BJxx printers CANON LBPxxxx - http://www.europe.canon.com/drivers/lbp/ All the drivers for LBPxxxx printers Amiga Drivers - http://www.europe.canon.com/drivers/lbp/ami/ Just the Amiga drivers for LBPxxxx laser printers - Chunky Graphics on an A500? Ever wondered what to do with your A500? Here is a little gadget that when attached to your machine will give it some chunky graphics. I haven't been able to figure out how the software works but the hardware is relatively simple. Most of the details are available on the following web page, ask the author of the page for distribution and more technical details. AGX Chunky Graphics Adapter - http://ph4227b.jcu.edu.au/agx.html - Dr. Kittel's Home Page Dr. Kittel has been answering questions about Amigas for years over the internet, finally we have a picture of this guy. Who's going to start a fan club? Dr. Kittel's Home Page - http://www.amiga.de/staff/peterk.html - Team 17 Team 17 are a game developer for amongst other platforms the Amiga. You probably know more about them than I do. Team 17 - http://www.team17.com/ Who works at Team 17 - http://www.team17.com/T17/T17Whos.html - Workbench window manager For those of you who are X users (AmiWin or UNIX) there is now a window manager that looks like workbench. I managed to compile it under NetBSD and it works fine. It is an early beta at this stage but it does show what is possible. I was trying to get a screen snap of how it looks (with Netscape running :-) but wasn't able to organise the required software in time. Maybe next month. AmiWM is written by Marcus Comstedt (marcus@lysator.liu.se) And you'll find it at Workbench Window Manager AmiWM - ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/emulators/amiwm0.19pl29.tar.gz Oberon System V4 ================ For those of you unaware Oberon 2 is a non class-based object-oriented programming language with modularity support (still a feature missed by C++ programmers). It was designed by N. Wirth & H. Mossenbock as a successor to both Pascal and Modula. The "Oberon System" is a complete development system featuring the Oberon 2 language. Oberon has be available for Amigas in several forms for a few years. There is even a special directory for it on AmiNet (/dev/obero). The compilers available for it are Amiga Oberon by Fridtjof Siebert (a commercial compiler - demo on AmiNet), Oberon-A by Frank Copeland (a very nice freeware compiler - see http://artworks.apana.org.au/~oberon-a/ ) and System V4 by Ralf Degner et al (also available on AmiNet - see http://sun1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/~nhbidegn/ ). The first non beta (V1.0) of "Oberon System V4 for Amiga" is ready and available. It includes many bug fixes and enhancement. The full source of O4A is available, too. O4A Archives: Oberon.lha - main achive (1.2 MB) Oberon-NonFPU.lha - to use O4A without FPU (100 KB) Oberon-Src.lha - the full source of (600 KB) You will find all archives at ftp.inf.ethz.ch in directory /pub/Oberon/Amiga . It should also be available on the AmiNet soon. If you don't have access to ftp, you may write mail to degner@pallas.amp.uni-hannover.de and I will send it to you uuencoded by e-mail. Ralf Degner (degner@pallas.amp.uni-hannover.de) {========================================================================} { IAS Project Reports } {========================================================================} The Membership Database ======================= As of the 3rd of January 1996 the database contains 232 entries which represent 5546 members in total. If you know of any Amiga users groups out there please check whether they are members or not. Also individuals and other organisations are welcome to join. A logo for the IAS ================== A few possible logos have been put up on the web page. IAS Logos - http://www.zen.it/~lcs/ias.logos.html Keep them coming in, the more the better. {========================================================================} { Reader Mail } {========================================================================} Intrepid Amiga ============== I'm in the military and I'm temporarily down in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I'm the only Amiga user here that I know of, certainly the only one here WITH one. Speaking of which, want a nice tale of diehard Amigaism? Instead of bringing lots of clothes, books or whatever else one would normally bring on a six-month trip away from home, I took but the bare necessities including my Amiga 1200 *AND* 1942 monitor literally crammed in a seabag and another large duffel. As far as I know, I'm the only person to ever bring an entire computer setup with them on a trip of this kind (not including laptops, mind you)... Is that dedication or what? I was NOT going to be doomed to six-months of MS Hell! Phil Beazley (beazley@holonet.net) The PERSONAL Computer ===================== : I'm just thinking about that is the difference of an Amiga (or : Atari or whatever niche computer) to any PC? In the Amiga community, the names of the designers, and original engineers and most of the more recent engineers are well known. Jay Miner. Dave Morse. RJ Mical. Dale Luck. Dave Haynie. Andy Finkel. Carolyn Scheppner. Jeff Porter. Greg Berlin. George Robbins. Mike Sinz. and on and on and on. How many people who own PCs or Macs or SGIs or Suns can name 10 or 20 of the people who work for the company that makes those machines, or their original design team? This is going on even now with Amiga Tech. Anyone with even slight usage of the Amiga newsgroups and who reads Amiga magazines knows already that Petro T. is the Pres. of Amiga Tech and that Gilles Bourdin is their PR guy, and that Dr. Peter Kittel is their documentation guy. These people have names and faces. This is one facet of the rather tightly-knit Amiga community that gives the machine personality. The people who made the thing didn't hide in glass towers and wear gray suits. They were online a lot. They showed up at trade shows and user group meetings. A lot of Amiga software is made by one and two-person companies. You call a co. up for support and chances are you end up talking to the guy who wrote your software. You can't get much more personal than that. You go to an Amiga show and there's the guy who wrote your software standing there at his booth. He's real and you can talk to him. Maybe even have lunch with him. You go to a big trade show like COMDEX and chances are the popular software has a huge booth with 50 people in it, all in gray suits, who dont' know you from adam. "You bought our product? You want to talk about it? Here.. fill out this card and drop it in the box. Next." The GURU meditation error gave the Amiga personality. So did the Boing ball and the checkmark logo. And RoboCity. And all the other classic ten year old stuff that even today people want to download and play with. Look what happened when C= went bust. Have you ever seen or heard of or known of any other consumer product which had such a world-wide community of support? So many people whose hearts felt like they'd been ripped out and stomped on when they learned Amigas were no longer being made? I mean, if your model of vacuum cleaner, or toaster, or telephone or hifi speakers, or hell, even if your make/model of car is no longer made, who cares? You just buy another brand. A different model. These products have no personality. The Amiga does. The Mac does. The Newton does (having recently become a Newton owner, although I can't name one of its designers, its user community feels to me a lot like the early Amiga user community.) The Mac has a little smiley Mac face that comes up onscreen on powerup. That's cute, and I've always liked it. Apple machines have some soul. A lot of very hip people work for Apple. PCs have no soul at all. They're appliances. Ten zillion people code Windows and work for Intel. Aside from Bill Gates and Andy Grove, how many can most PC owners name? Faceless masses at huge buildings with parking lots full of BMWs and Porsches, guys behind locked doors wearing white shirts and ties. That's IBM. The Amiga has personality because the people who made her have personality. Anyone who ever met Jay Miner will know this. And those people have been highly accessible. On the phone. At expos. On the net and online services. There's also a common feeling amongst many Amiga owners that they know they own and use a very special product. Something that was so far ahead of its time, it's hard to explain to people who use other personal computers. Many of them still don't grasp what multitasking is. And many people, myself included, wonder just how it came to pass, through good PC marketing and bad C= marketing, that the PC became the world standard for personal computers. Perhaps, though, in the end result, the Amiga gets a lot of its charm and personality simply Harv Laser (Harv@cup.portal.com) Can AT make enough machines? ============================ I am wondering how many machines AT can make in 1996. The old CBM was selling at a million machines a year until that last year. That was still small potatoes compared to big blue and little fruit. Before somebody makes like a preacher and starts answering questions no one asks, I know that the initial start up sequence of production was necessarily limited by the availability and cost of parts and that this just applied to the first run of 1200s, and 4000Ts. But I have heard nothing about AT' plans for full scale production. I am begining to have some hope agin for our favorite machine, if AT is able to pull off the conversion to the PPC as quickly as they seem to want to do, then the best may be yet to come for the Amiga. But I wont let myself get really excited until I see production ramped up to at least the point where we can see that existing demand is satisfied, and AT has some spare machines they can try to start attracting new owners with. I know, I don't want to wait for a PPC Amiga, as things stand, I want a 4000T and I will get a Phase 5 PowerUp board later. Assuming I can get a 4000T. Having SMG distribute to a local dealer is great, but if that local dealer has already presold every machine he can get, it wont do me much good. How long will I have to wait until my turn in line comes up. I understand that AT's plans are for 550,000 machines in 1996. I think this is about half of the existing demand without any sales to non-Amiga owners. I also think that the new A1200+ with the Voyager browser is a natural, and could easily boost sales into the multimillion machine range if the production capacity is there. Both the Scottish plant and the production facilities in PA (currently making the 4000T) could produce A1200s but you have to get them the chips to assemble, and that is serious lead time. My one hope is that Petro Tyschtschenko was the head of procurement for CBM, so if anybody can get the parts he can. I didn't realize until recently what Petro's job with the old Commodore was, or I would have had more faith in the Amiga's resurrection. Lets face it, anybody who can get Samsung to make monitors for them, when you owe them for the last two years worth, is a bloody genious. Gerald R. Everett (GREMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU) Correction ========== I would first like to say I am glad to be part of IAS and I hope the group grows stronger (as well as hopefully being recognized by bigger developers and ESCOM). I wanted to comment on a piece written in volume 1.3 of the newsletter which was sent to me. The article is titled "The PPC and the PowerAmiga". First off, I don't think PowerAmiga sounds all that bad, although a more catchier name could probably be devised. What I really wanted to comment on was the idea of ESCOM made Mac clones. The article proposes that such a Mac clone would be the same hardware as the Amiga, and that, conversely, PowerAmigas would run MacOs. Similarly, Macs could run AmigaOS. Well, this isn't true. The "Mac clones" are not entirely clones. Each one has a set of custom chips (*16* in one clone machine I saw) made by and liscenced from Apple. Thus, a PowerAmiga would need all these chips in order to run Mac software (without an emulator) -- ESCOM would be just plain stupid to make an Amiga with those MAc chips, because the cost would be unecessarily high. As for the Mac running AmigaOS... why not? We may get some converts. When they see AmigaOS running faster than MacOS on their PowerMac, they might switch. I think it would be just plain silly to customize the PPC chip so that AmigaOs could only run on an Amiga. Why? As for PCI cards, from what I understand, there is a standard for SVGA cards on the PCI bus, such that, you only need one driver and it will work with ANY PCI-SVGA card. This is one of the things that the OS programers at Commodore were planning on. Simply plug any SVGA in and it would work. Aric the Blue (greywire@quick.net) Sydney Plastered ================ Well, this e-mail is a follow-up on some previously discussed business in issue 3 of Diversity. I had suggested that people generate small stickers or posters to plaster their own locality with Amiga advertising... Since then, I have produced 500 stickers with AMIGA logo's and phrases etc, as well as some IAS advertising with e-mail and web page addresses. So far, I have only got around to sticking a few up... Xmas shopping has caused a horde of people to get in the way, not to mention the fact that i'd rather be a little more covert... :) Anyway, I'm not sure when the next issue of Diversity is out, but if it would be possible to add a small follow up article that Sydney is *about* to covered in AMIGA stickers etc, with a slight *plea* that some other Amiga lovers in other states, countries consider doing the same... Believe me, it is a MOST rewarding task... I've already placed a few around my workplace, and managed to piss off more than a few of my workmates!! heheheh :) Samples of stickers are: 1. Windows 95 = Amiga 85 ...AMIGA... multitasking 10 years ahead of the rest 2. Network your ideas. Join the International Amiga Society, and support your platform. (relevant web/e-mail addresses) 3. Why buy a generic PC? New production A1200 and A4000T's out now. AMIGA. Simply smarter performance. 4. You want: Pre-emptive multitasking / Plug-and-play technology? AMIGA. Doing for 10 years what PC's have only managed today... All stickers of course are nicely set out etc... they look good for an hour or two's work... :) Ian Sorbello (ians@sydney.DIALix.oz.au) {========================================================================} { Next Month (The Rumour Mill) } {========================================================================} Last month I promised all sorts of things in this section and none of them came true. So this month I'll be boring and not make any promises. Also it is a bit early in the year for people to be actually doing anything. If you absolutely need rumours then check out last month's column. {========================================================================} { Credits & Contributions } {========================================================================} Contributors (in no particular order) * Tassos Hadjithomaoglou (chatasos@teia.ariadne-t.gr) * James Burton (James@Snark.apana.org.au) * Phil Beazley (beazley@holonet.net) * Harv Laser (Harv@cup.portal.com) * Johan Torin (johan@artworks.apana.org.au) * Gerald R. Everett (GREMS@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU) * Aric the Blue (greywire@quick.net) * Ralf Degner (degner@pallas.amp.uni-hannover.de) * Ian Sorbello (ians@sydney.DIALix.oz.au) To contribute material or comment on Diversity please feel free to contact the editor James Burton on James@Snark.apana.org.au P.O. Box 201 Kingsbury 3083, Victoria Australia Contacting the IAS coordinators The IAS coordinators are members who coordinate various functions that the IAS feels responsible for. They are available by mailing to the internet address IAS-Coordinators@ArtWorks.apana.org.au Adding web pages or modifying material in the web pages Contact John Paden (dangermo@falcon.cc.ukans.edu ) who is webmaster for the IAS. Subscribing to the members' mailing list We have set up a mailing list for the members of IAS. You can and should subscribe to the mailing list if you have an internet mailbox by sending a message to the address majordomo@ArtWorks.apana.org.au containing the lines as follows: subscribe ias [your email address] quit Availability of Diversity Diversity will be posted to the members' mailing list shortly after the HTML version has been completed each month, in plain text form. 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