>Return-Path: Received: from studm.hrz.uni-siegen.de (studm.hrz.uni-siegen.de [141.99.128.8]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/10/30 3.5)) id RAA26147; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:28:21 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: by studm.hrz.uni-siegen.de (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14157; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:28:05 +0100 Received: by informatik.uni-siegen.de (UMSRFC 0.12); Sat, 02 Nov 1996 23:28:07 +0100 To: "Paladin" , "Oliver Wagner" , "AmiNet Probleme" In-Reply-To: From: "Fionn Behrens" Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 19:44:44 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Phoenix 1.15 Message-Id: <43292245@mompls.mlink.uni-siegen.de> Hello Paladin ! You wrote the following in a private mail: > On 01-Nov-96, Fionn Behrens wrote: > > >Your upload to AmiNet is a warscript. Its uses causes netstress and there > >are features incorporated into it which are only intended to annoy and > >offend other users. It will be deleted from Aminet immerdiately. Please do > >not upload any more versions of this script - they will be deleted > >immediately. > > Completely incorrect, the public version of Phoenix-AmIRC has absolutely NO > war/bandwidth-consuming features incorporated into it. You may not know that every kick and ban is broadcasted worldwide and modes, nickchanges and joins are therefor the most bandwith-consuming actions you can take. Your script is full of automatically launched actions of this type. > All it's features > are passive defenses AGAINST attacks and I challenge you to show otherwise. I gladly will: The following features of your script do IMHO have nothing to do with "passive defense": · Auto-Op Friends on Join is it random delayed so that not everyone is op'ed by three others (hail to phoenix, yuck!) on every join? · Auto-BanKick Enemies on Join this is what you call passive? · Protect Friends from DeOp/Ban automatic unconfirmed actions of this type are generally questionable and (most of the time) superfluous. · Revenge Kick on DeOp/Ban/Kick of Friends "revenge"-autokick? quite childish, aint it? · Mass/Channel-wide Ban/UnBan/Op/Deop/Msg/Notice/CTCP how passive! deoping a whole channel, wow. You may be serious enough not to do such thing but there are shitloads of assholes out there waiting to abuse your script with a simple mouse click. · Random Nick · Random I-Nick what is this good for, except avoiding kicks while flooding a channel or whatever? · War Mode - BKick on DeOp/Ban/Kick of Friends/self quite passive. · Flash/Zflash Nick/Channel Crashing peoples terminals for peace, hmm?? Come on... > The "war mode" mentioned in the docs (if you even read them) bans, kicks, > and ignores a flooder; it DOES NOT return flood him. Well, thats what I call generous. > I will await your reply before notifying the rest of the Amiga programming > community of this unjust and ignorant action taken against a benevolant > freeware developer. *giggle* Just do it. We will have a good laugh. With kindest regards, Fionn PS: The next version of AmIRC will have a list of officially approved 'good' scripts in the docs. Users will be explicitly warned to use other scripts of any kind. I will approve the scripts. And yours - at least in its current state - will not make it there. -- fionn@informatik.uni-siegen.de IRC: Fionn@#amigager PGP Key available on request DoMethod( #AmigaGER, MUIM_Notify, MUIA_Channel_Logon, "stuntzi", + #AmigaGER, MUIM_Channel_Kick, MUIV_TriggerValue ); *** O.Wagner on IRC, 29.02.96