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From stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com Wed Oct 11 16:53:46 1995
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Hi,

	I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)

	BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
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From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>
To: "Matthew O'Neill" <just-amiga@onelist.com>
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X-System: Amiga 1200(T)/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8
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From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Matthew O'Neill (mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk) wrote:

>> How good is the game BTW? I love pinball games and can only regret that
>> my 1200 refuses to run Pinball Dreams.

>why? my 1200 runs it fine?

This is the story. When I was about to upgrade my 500 to the 1200, I sold
of the 500 with some games and peripherals in order to finance the A1200.
Pinball Dreams was one game that the buyer insisted he wanted. Well,
it was either that or not getting it sold so the choice was easy. Then
some years passed, and last year or so I wanted to play it again. Tried to
get hold of it second hand. No luck. Then I got hold of a cracked version
that I tried. Won´t work. Well, it loads and I can choose what table
to run. The table loads, displays and the music can be heard. But it
doesn´t react to keypresses. Serves me right for selling the original in
the first place I guess. Not to mention getting a pirate copy when the original
was nowhere to be found. 

So if anyone´s got the original Pinball Dreams, and it stills work on todays
machines, to sell - I´d buy it in an instant.
Preferably one in sweden as it would make things a lot easier.

---
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From: Oliver Kastl <olli@elaborate-bytes.com>

On Wednesday, September 30, 1998 2:17 PM, Mikolaj Calusinski 
[SMTP:bloelle@kki.net.pl] wrote:
> From: Mikolaj Calusinski <bloelle@kki.net.pl>
>
> I see that author of IDEFix package, Oliver Kastl is on this list, so
> please
> let me take an opportunity...
>
> I changed all my Devs:DOSdrivers mountlists to one dummy file which
> contains
> a comment only and moved all the entries to icons' tooltypes. This 
allows
> me
> for easy access/editing of all parameters directly from WB and it works
> perfectly from CLI as well. Unfortunately such an arrangement confuses
> CacheCDFS Prefs program wchich cannot parse tooltypes to save changes.
> Oliver, is it possible to fix this in next release?

Not so easy. However, you can let all settings relevant for CDFSPrefs in 
the file and only add the "others" to the ToolTypes, e.g. UNIT, DEVICE or 
ACTIVATE. As values in the tooltypes override those in the mountfile, this 
shouls work fine.

Regards,

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From a.paynter@zoo.co.uk Wed Sep 30 23:17:23 1998
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Subject: [just-amiga] IDEfix & Blizzard Boards

From: Alan Paynter <a.paynter@zoo.co.uk>

Hi,
Thanx to all 10+ of you, for your useful and varied replies.In particular
to Oliver Kastl. I took a look at www.jschoenfield.com/eindex, Oliver,
wish I had knowledge of the Express Adaptor before I had the Powerflyer,
which required me to also upgrade to a Tower :-) :-(  - Im broke now.
Interesting also my personal point, the Powerflyer gives me a speed increase
from 1.85 to 4.5 Kb/Sec.(2.5x), though up to 10x is claimed possible.
The New Express Adaptor Claims 5.1 Kb/sec.
I think claims of both systems are outrageous, as AFAIK any CDrom on the
system will pull the max speed back.Not that I complain about 2.5x.

Yes, my friend has a buffered interface,so he is assured by the seller.
Knackered CDrom? No. Hes also tried a new 24speed.
Cant answer much of the other stuff for him, except I think its one of those
Escom Boards, so Ill put all your remarks into a printed iterary Work as a
start :-)
The "black box" as described by Oliver is particularly intriguing, -
see Web page above.So the other one is green, then.
I take it this is the same as "the older one" as described by Sami.
Again, have no idea what colour is under my desperate friend's 1200 case,
he tells me he is about to either give up the Ami or go back to nursery
class :-/
Not likely he will take his 1200 back to the shop AGAIN.
Sami - is your Atapi device V113.1 old or new. If its old, maybe you can
attach it to an e-mail for me ? We'll try anything simple I suppose.
Lasly (maybe).. where is this Atapi Speed 3 ?. I have seen SetAtapiSpeed,
which comes with several of the Atapi drivers AFAIK,and works automatically
without command, but is Atapi Speed 3 something new I've missed?

Regards,
Alan Paynter
Chairman, West London Computer Club
Amiga A1260/50Tower, PPC 603e-166Mhz
6.0 Gb Hard Drives + Power Flyer
SurfSquirrel, Zip Drive, 33.6 Modem,
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From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Oct 01 01:07:12 1998
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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 30-Sep-98, Matthew O'Neill wrote:
>From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

>[just-amiga] Re: PFS2 DIE DIE DIE!! gets dragged on once more......
-snip-
>I know all about the maxtransfer stuff (IDE) and I tried all sort, but
>it still gave the same errors over and over again
-snip-
>MashMan

I have found that if you have had errors with an IDE drive with the wrong
MaxTransfer value, then sometimes just setting it to 0x1fe00  will 
NOT always make all your problems go away..

It apparently had causes some corruption within the filing system too.

You have to back up all the files, Re-Format the partition,
 (with the correct MaxTransfer set)  Then copy all the files back into
the partition.

This should then fix all the strange problems you may have.


>-------------------------------------
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At 12:16 PM 30/09/98 +0100, Jonas Thorell wrote:

> A pretty long and detailed reply. <

For which all I have to say is 

THANX a LOT mate.

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At 01:33 PM 30/09/98 +0100, Mikolaj Calusinski wrote:

> A Nice and Long response to my query <

And For that 

A HUGE Thanx FROM me.

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Subject: [just-amiga] Encryption (transparent)

From: Sridhar Iyer <sridhar.i@usa.net>

I had asked sometime back about methods of encryption to use with data
files. I had mentioned that I had been using PPloadseg, to which it was
rightly pointed out that PPLoadseg was an compressor for libs, devs etc.
What i meant to say was until PP was active these compressed devices were
encrypted to the AVG user. So I was assured of some level of protection.

Now what I am searching for is something that will giv me a transparent
security cover. ie Anims, IFF images, Fonts work on my machines but just
filched from my machine will not enable them to work on others! And mind
you the user level here is just a notch or two above novice!! [ And I must
be at least a dozen notches above novice. ( And I am , Oh , SO modest!!)  ]

Danke once again to all those who pointed me to SCSImount. Shall try it out.

Namaskaaram ( = Greetings. In Tamil )
Sridhar.

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Subject: [just-amiga] Pinball Fantasies on 060

From: Mark Tierno <drstrange@usa.net>

Just a note on this Pinball Fantasies won't run on an 060 stuff:  I got an 060
and Pinball Fantasies on my Hard Drive- works just fine.  Maybe it just
doesn't like your graphics board?  (I usually use Nocyber for such things).
  Anyway, if it matters:
   Setup:
          A4000/060- CyberStorm MK II with Fast Winde SCSI
          CV64 w/4megs ram
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          4X CD ROM
          lots of hacks and utilities
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On Thursday, October 01, 1998 1:17 AM, Alan Paynter 
[SMTP:a.paynter@zoo.co.uk] wrote:
> Lasly (maybe).. where is this Atapi Speed 3 ?. I have seen 
SetAtapiSpeed,
>
> which comes with several of the Atapi drivers AFAIK,and works
> automatically
> without command, but is Atapi Speed 3 something new I've missed?

My fault. I should be more precise in what I post....
Atapi Speed 3 was meant as the result of doing a SetAtapiSpeed 
atapi.device x 3 (x is the unit).
BTW, if you have IDEfix or LoadIDE in your s:startup-sequence, you can use 
IDEfixPrefs to modify the Atapi Speed.

Regards,

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From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham)

Hi Colin

> I have found that if you have had errors with an IDE drive with the wrong
> MaxTransfer value, then sometimes just setting it to 0x1fe00  will
> NOT always make all your problems go away..
>
> It apparently had causes some corruption within the filing system too.

Any files that were corrupted due to a bad MaxTransfer value will
still be corrupted when you correct the MaxTransfer. Any affected
files will have to be reinstalled.

  Tim

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Sridhar Iyer (sridhar.i@usa.net) wrote:

>Now what I am searching for is something that will giv me a transparent
>security cover. ie Anims, IFF images, Fonts work on my machines but just
>filched from my machine will not enable them to work on others! 

I don´t know if this software will do what you want but you can check for
yourself. It´s a piece of software that encrypts files written on the
fly so it should do what you want but no warranties.

The shareware demo is at http://wwwrzstud.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~un60/DiskProtection/
I don´t know if it´s supported anymore though, the author is perhaps too
busy with MakeCD.

---
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crackpot with an ignorant opinion! I'm a busy man! _I_ say, either
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Hey all!
 Right, have you made any thing interesting that you think other
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Sorry to bother you all again ;) but does anyone on this list have
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Subject: [just-amiga] Graphics Cards

From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>

 I just seen a web page for a supplier of Picasso IV and it said that 
you need OS3.1 minimum. End of story. I checked out the dreaded 
Blittersoft's page (I do now have my 1260 and its great) and they say 
OS3.1 is highly recommended. Why?

 Also on a similar note, if the Picasso IV can have its own 
bridgeboard allowing the board to have a local PCi bus, why isn't 
there a board which does just the Zorro->Pci bus bridge, or even 
better a 1200 daughterboard like the Micronik one which provides 
Zorro slot and PCi slots, but with its own bridge so that the Amiga 
could use the PCi slots as well. Then we'd all be able to use the 
cheap PCi SVGA and 3D cards that have been available for PCs for ages 
(assuming someone was able to write drivers for them). Imagine, being 
able to run an Amiga version of GLQuake on a Voodoo/Voodoo2 3D card. 
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  Certainly, someone would be able to write AMIGA drivers for PCI cards
currently available for PCs. The question is: would anyone bother? Just
take a look at the Mac world to find the answer. Macs have been shipping
with a PCI bus for quite a long time. During this time, every card
manufacturer had the chance to write drivers for Macintosh. Hardly anyone
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From: "Malcolm Harnden" <malky@nobleone.u-net.com>

29 Sep 98 01:03:13 +0100

[just-amiga] Re: pfs2 and surf

Hi Jonas Thorell

My modest reply to your....
---------------------------


> From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>
> 
> Sami Näätänen (sami.naatanen@dlc.fi) wrote:
> 
> >> The user version was limited to 1 harddisk (and 1 partition only on it)
> >> with a maximum size of around 600 meg. The pro version was limitless.
> 
> >Well how big partitions you have, because I have AFS and it wont work in
> >bigger partitions than 2GB :( So that's the limit.
> 

I use, and recomend PFS2 on a SCSI III 4.3 Gb HD without any problems,
well only one problem since installing it I`ve forgotten how to
re-install a hard drive after a crash :-) 

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: jrjira@ix.netcom.com (John R. Jira)

On 3 Oct 98 17:36:40 +0000 you wrote to me about [just-amiga] Epson 440

> From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
> 
> Hi one and all,
>                     Can anyone help me.
>    I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
>   BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
>   Can you help please.
> -- 

You should purchase a copy of Turbo Print.

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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 04-Oct-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
>From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
>Hi one and all,
>  Can anyone help me.
>  I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
>  BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
>  Can you help please.
>-- 
>                                             Norwich City FC forever
>                                              The "AMIGA" lives on
>                                     mailto: paul@valerie.u-net.com


Go to:  *http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/index.html*


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From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>

Hi one and all,
                    Can anyone help me.
   I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
  BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
  Can you help please.
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440, Colin Wenzel, you said : 
> From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>
> 
> On 04-Oct-98, Paul Dixon wrote:
> >From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
> >Hi one and all,
> >  Can anyone help me.
> >  I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
> >  BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
> >  Can you help please.
> >-- 
> >                                             Norwich City FC forever
> >                                              The "AMIGA" lives on
> >                                     mailto: paul@valerie.u-net.com
> 
> 
> Go to:  *http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/index.html*
> 
been there. No good :-(

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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Epson 440 gets dragged on once more......

> From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
> 
> Hi one and all,
>                     Can anyone help me.
>    I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
>   BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
>   Can you help please.

try turboprint 6, it's supurb. even if you do find a driver for it, it
will suck, so tp6 really is best
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Subject: [just-amiga] Turbo Print v6 was - Re: Epson 440

From: "Bill Eaves" <bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk>

From:           	"Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

> 
> try turboprint 6, it's supurb. even if you do find a driver for it, it
> will suck, so tp6 really is best

That reminds me, does anyone else have a problem withTP6 that worked 
with TP4. It is not my current set up as I had this both before and after 
reinstalling a new hard drive.

With TP5 I could alter the Contrast and Gamma settings for coloured 
printout, I think it is in Gfx but am at work at the moment so cannot 
check. Unless I leave both at the default settings in TP6 it crashes every 
time I try to print, using the default is OK but not always what I want. I 
could use any Contrast or Gamma I liked in TP4 with no bother at all.

Oddly if I click the button to the right (can't remeber what it is called) I 
can alter the Gamma for individual colours, say lower Red to get a darker 
red  printout and can print that out fine.


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From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440, Matthew O'Neill, you said : 
> From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>
> 
> [just-amiga] Epson 440 gets dragged on once more......
> 
> > From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
> > 
> > Hi one and all,
> >                     Can anyone help me.
> >    I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
> >   BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
> >   Can you help please.
> 
> try turboprint 6, it's supurb. even if you do find a driver for it, it
> will suck, so tp6 really is best
   Installed tp5 demo but willn't work the printer :-(
   Where is the demo of tp6, so I can see if it will work my printer. 
   Thanks for your help.:-)
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From: Srdan Kvrgic <skvr@swipnet.se>

Hello Paul

On 03-Okt-98, you wrote:

> From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>

> Hi one and all,
>                    Can anyone help me.
>   I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
>  BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
>  Can you help please.

Check these out. Some of them should work

Epson_400.lha      text/print  11K   0+Epson Stylus 400 Driver for WB V1.0
Epson_600.lha      text/print  12K   0+Epson Stylus 600 Driver for WB V1.4

the place is aminet, of course

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Hi All

Hope you don't mind but i'd like to plug this groovy game....

I have a Freeciv game going every sunday at 6pm UK time.  If you fancy
battling against other net users in a game of Civilisation then come
join in.
Join #amiga on irc.netcom.net.uk and look for me, HomerJ around the
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440, Srdan Kvrgic, you said : 
> From: Srdan Kvrgic <skvr@swipnet.se>
> 
> Hello Paul
> 
> On 03-Okt-98, you wrote:
> 
> > From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
> 
> > Hi one and all,
> >                    Can anyone help me.
> >   I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
> >  BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
> >  Can you help please.
> 
> Check these out. Some of them should work
> 
> Epson_400.lha      text/print  11K   0+Epson Stylus 400 Driver for WB V1.0
> Epson_600.lha      text/print  12K   0+Epson Stylus 600 Driver for WB V1.4
> 
> the place is aminet, of course
Thanks to all the reply's :-)
 YES it work's now and its brill :-))))
  Thank you.
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From: Mark Tierno <drstrange@usa.net>

I just saw a flat bed scanner in the store, ScanAce 630p by Pacific Image
Electronics (30-bit), for $59.97.  Problem.
  1) I never heard of them, so
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To all on the list,
      Amiga Information Online now has a new phone number, if you
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From: Heiko Hayn <Smeagel@gmx.net>

private log, stardate  36073.0 :  I recieved a message from John R. Jira
concerning [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

Message log:

-> From: jrjira@ix.netcom.com (John R. Jira)

-> On 3 Oct 98 17:36:40 +0000 you wrote to me about [just-amiga] Epson 440

->> From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>
->> 
->> Hi one and all,
->>                     Can anyone help me.
->>    I've just gone and got an Epson 440 color printer. :-)
->>   BUT can't find a printer driver for it. :-(
->>   Can you help please.
->> -- 

-> You should purchase a copy of Turbo Print.

Hell, no! Purchase the original rather than a copy...

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On 05-Oct-98, Matti Niskanen wrote:
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>unsubscribe just-amiga

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Wow.. that's what I call service.. automatically getting a reply inside the
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Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Staff still wanted!

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Dear ALL,
      As per usual i'm still hunting for a couple of new editors to
take over various roles at AIO. Below is a list and description
of what will be involved.

*Games Editor 2* : The second games reviewer would be required
to review at least 2-3 games a month from various free sources
such as Aminet and other freely available sources. There is a chance
of some commercial games to review.

*Web Editor* : The web editor would write one colum per month about
5 different web sites of interest they have come across, being Amiga
or general interesting web sites. Small text about 4 of them and your
'pick of the month' should be explained in detail for the 5th.

*News Editor* : The news editor would be required to find as much
news each month as possible with a minimum of 6 news storys. They
can be obtained from amiga news sources like the amiga web
directory and also chasing up developers and programmers for
any latest news from them. *Benifit *: You will find out interesting
news before anyone else.

If you can help or would like to write the odd review or article
we are waiting to hear from you, thanks for your support!
Contact me via any of the listed contact methods in my tagline.

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Donate and WIN

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Hello all, I'm trying to raise funds for Amiga Information Online
to purchase a registered web domain in the format of www.aioworld.com
or something similar. I am doing this to make it easy to gain access
to AIO and then also add a JUST-AMiGA mailing list section at
www.aioworld.com/ja/ so it will benifit many people and raise awareness
and readership of AIO. To make this happen we are pleaing that if
it is possible you can send *£5.00* or *$10.00* and any money we receive
over the amount required will go to buying software/hardware to
competition off to our readers. If you can donate that amount there
is the insentive that when we receive your money you will be entered
into a *competition* to *win *Aga Experience 3 (Worth £10) and a
registered
copy of Cheat Zone v1.4.3. Send any donations to :-

 Chris Seward (AIO)
 10 Scafell Close
 Eastham
 Wirral
 Merseyside
 L62 9EU
 ENGLAND

Thankyou again for your great support and help.

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Subject: [just-amiga] AIO web page gets updated!

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

The Amiga Information Online web page as had a total overhaul,
please check it out as you will now be astonised with the quality
of the page. You can find links to interviews, latest aio news,
register online, download any issue, latest issue online, contact
any of the editorial team and also links to other worth while
web pages.

This work was taken out by Andrew Crowe who i'd like to give
great thanks to and also let you know he will do very good
web pages for very resonable prices, contact him at :
*andrewcrowe@enterprise.net*

Check the page at : *www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm*

(This could soon be www.aioworld.com with your help, check
message 'Donate and Win')

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To ALL people unsubscribing,

    Firstly don't any of you who are trying to unsubscribe read
the little tags one list add? It says to unsubscribe visits
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440, Heiko Hayn, you said : 
> From: Heiko Hayn <Smeagel@gmx.net>
 < big snip> 
> -> You should purchase a copy of Turbo Print.
> 
> Hell, no! Purchase the original rather than a copy...
  My order went out on Sunday night, for Turbo Print 6. ;-))))))))
  
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Subject: [just-amiga] Banner adverts anyone?

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Dear List,
     Due to the decline of most of the Amiga magazines like CuAmiga
recently, I am aiming at making AIO one of the best magazines in the
world with a type of 'cult' following like Amiga Report has. AR is good
but it comes out on an irregular basis and has a sort of released
when the editor is ready. AIO sticks to a one month deadline and
we are still requesting your suggestions or contributions.

 The main subject of this letter is regarding the www.aioworld.com
web page, once we have registered this domain I am offering banner
adverts to link to your company plus a small section dedicated to
your company or page. If you are interested find the prices for
a banner advert and dedicated section below.

1 month - £10
6 months - £40 (Save £20 if bought per month)
1 year - £75 (Save £45 if bought per month)

 If you are interested contact me by emailing : *amiga@thefree.net*
or phone (UK) : *07887 664 915*

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: Heiko Hayn <Smeagel@gmx.net>

private log, stardate  36075.0 :  I recieved a message from Paul Dixon concerning
[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

Message log:

->> -> You should purchase a copy of Turbo Print.
->> Hell, no! Purchase the original rather than a copy...
->  My order went out on Sunday night, for Turbo Print 6. ;-))))))))

God boy, here is your candy...

;-)

Its a good Package, but so is Studio, too. I use both. Studio has the
advantage of not being a hack but totally systemconform a printer driver.
Good, fast and reliable. Only for high quality color prints with the Photo-Kit
I use Turboprint, because it looks a little better and is faster then.
  
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Live long and prosper


Heiko

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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>    Firstly don't any of you who are trying to unsubscribe read
>the little tags one list add? It says to unsubscribe visits
>http://www.onelist.com  Stop flooding the list with boring unsubscribe
>messages when you could save everyone the trouble by reading
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Thats all fine and good, if you're account is intact at onelist. I've been at 
war with them now for a month. If you're cookies screwed , SO ARE you. you 
can't get in to do diddly, and all onelist does is repeat everything in the 
FAQ's instead of listening to what you're telling them..

I'm doing all I can (droping all my lists best I can) to maybe delete my 
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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

On 10-Oct-98, you wrote:

> Thats all fine and good, if you're account is intact at onelist. I've
been at 
> war with them now for a month. If you're cookies screwed , SO ARE you.
you 
> can't get in to do diddly, and all onelist does is repeat everything in
the 
> FAQ's instead of listening to what you're telling them..
> 

Yes, i am also having problems, i can't get into my account.

> I'm doing all I can (droping all my lists best I can) to maybe delete
my 
> account at onelist and hopefully come in as a NEW account !
> Not likely...


Is everyone still out there? has it gone quiet or has onelist
buggered up?

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From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Message to unsubscribers!, Chris Seward, you said : 
> From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>
> 
> On 10-Oct-98, you wrote:
> 
> > Thats all fine and good, if you're account is intact at onelist. I've
> been at 
> > war with them now for a month. If you're cookies screwed , SO ARE you.
> you 
> > can't get in to do diddly, and all onelist does is repeat everything in
> the 
> > FAQ's instead of listening to what you're telling them..
> > 
> 
> Yes, i am also having problems, i can't get into my account.
> 
> > I'm doing all I can (droping all my lists best I can) to maybe delete
> my 
> > account at onelist and hopefully come in as a NEW account !
> > Not likely...
> 
> 
> Is everyone still out there? has it gone quiet or has onelist
> buggered up?
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From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>

'Twas the night before 10-Oct-98, and all through the net,
 not a creature was stirring, except for Paul, who whispered ominously:

>  WELL I am still here

So am I, just don't have much to say at the moment. (Any of you guys tried
MUCKing before?)

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Message to unsubscribers!

From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Message to unsubscribers!, Ragnar Fyri, you said : 
> From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
> 
> 'Twas the night before 10-Oct-98, and all through the net,
>  not a creature was stirring, except for Paul, who whispered ominously:
> 
> >  WELL I am still here
> 
> So am I, just don't have much to say at the moment. (Any of you guys tried
> MUCKing before?)

 No ???? 

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>


    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440, Heiko Hayn, you said : 
> From: Heiko Hayn <Smeagel@gmx.net>
> 
> private log, stardate  36075.0 :  I recieved a message from Paul Dixon concerning
> [just-amiga] Re: Epson 440
> 
> Message log:
> 
> ->> -> You should purchase a copy of Turbo Print.
> ->> Hell, no! Purchase the original rather than a copy...
> ->  My order went out on Sunday night, for Turbo Print 6. ;-))))))))
> 
> God boy, here is your candy...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Its a good Package, but so is Studio, too. I use both. Studio has the
> advantage of not being a hack but totally systemconform a printer driver.
> Good, fast and reliable. Only for high quality color prints with the Photo-Kit
> I use Turboprint, because it looks a little better and is faster then.
   Got my turbo Print today :0.
   Ordered on line on saturday last week. Rung up Wizard to find out
they only down load there site twice a week  :( 
   So could have rung them and it would have been quicker :(
   Never mind it got here in the end ;)
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From: cbminfo@digital.net

Someone from this list wrote me (I suspect it was the moderator, and I also 

suspect he was using Aweb 3.2 can't get into his account at onelist either...





Well here's the fix if you're interested. I stumbled across it completely by 

accident while attempting to create an internet email account where I could 

call a 2nd home to send email from if needed in the future. Trouble was, can't 

recall if it was yahoo mail or hotmail.com. Pretty much irrelevant, but it came 

back with the error 'trouble getting your end to accept the cookie we use for 

security' Hmmmm.... Damn Cookies and aweb.. Anyways this turned a lightbulb on 

that had been in a brownout the past few weeks. Do some aweb config such as 

'SPOOF as Mozilla 4.0' Go to the Privacy section of network settings and 

toggle 'Browse anonymously' I also turned RFC 2109 off, but I suspect that can 

stay turned on. It is just that much more security. And possibly more than 

onelist can handle. Where it says use cookies, I chose the 'ask before set' 

though Always (Quiet) would have served just as well. I wanted to see what was 

happening while trying to set onelists cookie again..



Anyways things finally took. There was now a onelist cookie where every 

attempt at entering was met with wrong address or you're already registered. 

Now to see if I can't get a 2nd mail account case this happens again.. 

Blasted cookies...



Ain't no one gonna be hacking into anyones onelist account. Cripes most 

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Subject: [just-amiga] Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Some good news all, read this that I received from Digital Images.

--snip--

Talks are still going with Psygnosis with regards to Wipeout 2097. We are
confident that we will get the necessary licencing to port Wipeout 2097
to
the Amiga. Watch this space for the latest info...

--snip--

So expect to see Wipeout 2097 soon on the Amiga, read AIO issue 17 which
is out on the 24th October for an article on who Digital Images are and
there other plans and news.

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] ACE Basic compiler

From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

For those that were unaware David Benn finally released the source to his 
Amiga Basic compiler. It's available from Aminet. as ace_final.lha.. Rather 
than bugging David about it he included the Sozobon K&R C compiler he used to 
write ACE.
 
He knows it's screwed up. This compiler w/source is also available from 
aminet.

Since David has discontinued support other than a passing interest He 
mentioned he intended to convert it to ANSI C. Currently I have it compiled 
and converted under SAS/C 6.58. 

Rather than duplication of effort, here's mail I rcv'd from David re: ACE 
release and future of the code.

Hi Ken

>Which I assume means you're using a differnt style machine (clone) so the 
>attachment is in amiga zip format. I have de-arced amiga zips on my clone. 
>Much simpler than lha's on my clone..

Yep, thanks.

>I fired up my aminet CD's when I saw it was the sozobon compiler directory 
>that was messed up. And found this compiler on aminet 1a. But even this was 
>missing something.

I notice from the listing you provided me that the main compiler files for
ZC appear to be extractable. That's good. I only provided that archive so
that people would know exactly which version of ZC I was using for ACE
(although that's documented in ace.doc), so whether it's intact probably
isn't critical. I recall there being something wrong with the original
archive for ZC too. Don't recall the details now.

>I'm currently in the process (as you were) of converting 
>to SAS/C 6.58 version (last release) there's 3 functions I'm having trouble 
>with as they don't even exist in SAS the functions are itoa ltoa and fsize.
>None of these functions seem to exist in the C files. The names are fairly 
>self explanatory (I imagine itoa means int to ascii and ltoa means long to 
>ascii, and fsize = file size..) I browsed thru C source code I have stored, 
>fsize was non-existant but itoa and ltoa I found in Snoopdos source.

BTW, for s=ltoa(n) and s=itoa(n) you could use sprintf(s,"%d",n) and
sprintf(s,"%ld",n). For fsize() you could either make use of stat() or
fseek()+ftell().
 
>Oh I found itoa, ltoa, and fsize in the sozobon compiler source code. Just 
>made them part of a 'extras.c' module added to your original source code.

Goodo.

>Two other immediate problems are 'rename() and chdir()'. 1st attempt I went 
>and just commented them out instead of using sas built in 'rename() and 
>chdir()' this didn't work...
>
>Incorrect number of parameters. Simpler for the moment to just rename the 2 
>in your source as ace_rename() and ace_chdir() thruout the code..

What was the conflict?

>This is just an interim note. I got way further than I expected yesterday
and 
>actually converted your ACE to SAS/C 6.58 ANSI C. Or whatever SAS/C is I'm 
>pretty sure it's ansi compliant. Anyways got all the way thru yesterday, 
>(totally blew me away) few minor 'WARNINGS' ie: no prototype declared at 
>definition ' These were in the majority and hardly much to mention. I can
send

Yes, SAS/C is ANSI. Those prototype warnings arise from the fact that K&R C
permitted no prototypes except to specify function return type (but not
params). To do a proper conversion would require these protos and the
function definition param lists to be converted to ANSI C also.

>you the completed project if you want, or what I've done so far. 

There's not much point sending me the code because I don't have time to
work on it, but thanks for the offer. Since you've started some work on it,
might I suggest you announce this on comp.sys.amiga.programmer so as to
avoid duplicated effort?

>Anyways got it all done, even ran it thru SAS optimizer. your last version
of 
>ace shows 239,084 bytes, and the sas optimized version for ANY processor (I 
>assume that means the 68000 this came out to 154,732 or a savings of 84,352 
>bytes.. Haven't run it thru enforcer yet (Never used enforcer before) but it 
>didn't crash when I fired it up so thats a beginning...

Wow!

>This has been a quick and dirty convert but I'm really not done yet. I
expect 
>I'll run it thru all the checks and balances..

Great. I'm really glad someone is picking this up and running with it. Good
for you! I'd be very happy to see ACE developed further.

>Oh since it's your code, and most likely the central source. FWIW..
There's a 
>inet company giving out FREE MAILING LISTS. http://onelist.com..
>
>I'd set it up myself, but using an amiga has seemingly caused more troubles 
>than expected. Their site uses cookies for security and my hd crashed, 
>trashing the cooky. So my account itself is trashed so there's no way for me 
>to immediatley set up a ACE mailing list not till they erase or fix my 
>account on their site so it will send me a cookie I can make 1000 backup 
>copies of...

Right. You might want to mention this on the c.s.a.p newsgroup too. I may
well join the list and monitor things as they progress, and be available to
answer questions, but I really don't want to run this.

>It would be (assuming there are others out there besides me) almost a 
>necessity ie: the GNU chess program source code where hundreds work on it. 
>There has to be a central source ACE MAILING LIST to maintain the integrity 
>of the code. I did read at your site where you credited aides author of 
>bugging you to release the code. So you must have forgot my request months 
>back.. Anyways...

Yes, I agree. There would have to be coordination.

Oh, sorry about forgetting that you asked me too. Daniel just hassled me a
lot in recent months, that's all. He wasn't very happy with me last time he
e-mailed. Hopefully he will be now though.

>Like I said this is just an interim note. I have it converted, had it 
>compile, today comes the acid test to see if it can also run without erasing 
>my HD...

Good luck. Thanks for the note, and I _really_ am interested in the
progress, but I just don't have the time to work on ACE now. Too much other
stuff happening.

Rgds,

DB

David Benn
e-mail: dbenn@camtech.net.au
http://www.adelaide.net.au/~dbenn/
phone: +61 8 8266 6508 [home] +61 8 8203 3682 [work]


Thats the original and here's the 2nd reply
>>I'm currently in the process (as you were) of converting to SAS/C 6.58 
>>version (last release) 

>>Two other immediate problems are 'rename() and chdir()'. 1st attempt I went 
>>and just commented them out instead of using sas built in 'rename() and 
>>chdir()' this didn't work...
>>
>>Incorrect number of parameters. Simpler for the moment to just rename the 2 
>>in your source as ace_rename() and ace_chdir() thruout the code..

>What was the conflict?

See above 'Incorrect number of parameters.' Think yours required no 
parameters and SAS requires a source and destination.

>Yes, SAS/C is ANSI. Those prototype warnings arise from the fact that K&R C
>permitted no prototypes except to specify function return type (but not
>params). To do a proper conversion would require these protos and the
>function definition param lists to be converted to ANSI C also.

>>you the completed project if you want, or what I've done so far. 

>There's not much point sending me the code because I don't have time to
>work on it, but thanks for the offer. Since you've started some work on it,
>might I suggest you announce this on comp.sys.amiga.programmer so as to
>avoid duplicated effort?

>>Anyways got it all done, even ran it thru SAS optimizer. your last version
>of 
>>ace shows 239,084 bytes, and the sas optimized version for ANY processor (I 
>>assume that means the 68000 this came out to 154,732 or a savings of 84,352 
>>bytes.. Haven't run it thru enforcer yet (Never used enforcer before) but it

>>didn't crash when I fired it up so thats a beginning...

>Wow!

Yeah wow. It also didn't work...

>>This has been a quick and dirty convert but I'm really not done yet. I
>expect I'll run it thru all the checks and balances..

>Great. I'm really glad someone is picking this up and running with it. Good
>for you! I'd be very happy to see ACE developed further.

>>Oh since it's your code, and most likely the central source. FWIW..
>There's a inet company giving out FREE MAILING LISTS. http://onelist.com..
>>
>>I'd set it up myself, but using an amiga has seemingly caused more troubles 
>>than expected. Their site uses cookies for security and my hd crashed, 
>>trashing the cooky. So my account itself is trashed so there's no way for me

>>to immediatley set up a ACE mailing list not till they erase or fix my 
>>account on their site so it will send me a cookie I can make 1000 backup 
>>copies of...

I've been wrangling with that onelist cookie thing and aweb so long trying 
every dirty trick I can think of to get back into my account there. Short 
story I finally did. Haven't been able to even look at ace since last mail. 
But will be moving full steam ahead now that I'm back in there..

>Right. You might want to mention this on the c.s.a.p newsgroup too. I may
>well join the list and monitor things as they progress, and be available to
>answer questions, but I really don't want to run this.

No prob bob! Now that I'm back on onelist, I'll go ahead and create a ACE 
mailing list. and you can go ahead and advertise the list on your home page. 
FWIW to subscribe send the people to http://onelist.com. Find Ace. Then 
just follow the yellow brick road and sign up.

>>It would be (assuming there are others out there besides me) almost a 
>>necessity ie: the GNU chess program source code where hundreds work on it. 
>>There has to be a central source ACE MAILING LIST to maintain the integrity 
>>of the code. I did read at your site where you credited aides author of 
>>bugging you to release the code. So you must have forgot my request months 
>>back.. Anyways...

>Yes, I agree. There would have to be coordination.

>Oh, sorry about forgetting that you asked me too. Daniel just hassled me a
>lot in recent months, that's all. He wasn't very happy with me last time he
>e-mailed. Hopefully he will be now though.

>>Like I said this is just an interim note. I have it converted, had it 
>>compile, today comes the acid test to see if it can also run without erasing

>>my HD...

>Good luck. Thanks for the note, and I _really_ am interested in the
>progress, but I just don't have the time to work on ACE now. Too much other
>stuff happening.


So as anyone can see David seems to be all for the future of ACE, he just 
hasn't the time to do it himself. 

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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>

>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga
>
>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>
>
>> As much as I like the idea, what kind of Amiga are we talking about
>here?
>> I have my doubts that even a 040 would cut it. A 060, maybe. 
>>   Surly, being realistic, only a Fast PPC / Amiga NG? would really
>'hack it'. I mean, look at quake; an 060 with a GFX card would be lucky
>to do 10fps in full detail 320x200, while a /AGA/ PPC A1200 can do upto
>about 20fps, nearly full speed with a gfx card. 
>
> the PC version needs a P120 at least, so imagine trying to run a game
>like that on an 060'50 amiga.
>

quake??? well look at the data on the different gfxcards and you will 
see that quake actually needs twice as much as tombraider. (ie. 
tombraider 35 fps - quake 20 fps) SO if they can run tombraider on a pc 
with half the power of quake then surely we should be able to run 
wipeout 2097 on the amiga.... :) 

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From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Chris Seward (amiga@thefree.net) wrote:

>Talks are still going with Psygnosis with regards to Wipeout 2097. We are
>confident that we will get the necessary licencing to port Wipeout 2097
>to the Amiga. Watch this space for the latest info...

As much as I like the idea, what kind of Amiga are we talking about here?
I have my doubts that even a 040 would cut it. A 060, maybe. 

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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

On 10-Oct-98, you wrote:

> As much as I like the idea, what kind of Amiga are we talking about
here?
> I have my doubts that even a 040 would cut it. A 060, maybe. 


Hmm maybe a 060 minimum if at all, probably PPC me would think.
Watch this space though!
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,


>> Talks are still going with Psygnosis with regards to Wipeout 2097. We
are
>> confident that we will get the necessary licencing to port Wipeout
2097
>> to the Amiga. Watch this space for the latest info...

> As much as I like the idea, what kind of Amiga are we talking about
here?
> I have my doubts that even a 040 would cut it. A 060, maybe. 

   Surly, being realistic, only a Fast PPC / Amiga NG? would really
'hack it'. I mean, look at quake; an 060 with a GFX card would be lucky
to do 10fps in full detail 320x200, while a /AGA/ PPC A1200 can do upto
about 20fps, nearly full speed with a gfx card. 

 the PC version needs a P120 at least, so imagine trying to run a game
like that on an 060'50 amiga.

See ya.
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,



>>  Surly, being realistic, only a Fast PPC / Amiga NG? would really
>> 'hack it'. I mean, look at quake; an 060 with a GFX card would be
lucky
>> to do 10fps in full detail 320x200, while a /AGA/ PPC A1200 can do
upto
>> about 20fps, nearly full speed with a gfx card. 
>> 
>> the PC version needs a P120 at least, so imagine trying to run a game
>> like that on an 060'50 amiga.
>> 

> quake??? well look at the data on the different gfxcards and you will 
> see that quake actually needs twice as much as tombraider. (ie. 
> tombraider 35 fps - quake 20 fps) SO if they can run tombraider on a
pc 
> with half the power of quake then surely we should be able to run 
> wipeout 2097 on the amiga.... :) 

   Tombraider may need less power to run, but I think we can safely say
that Wipeout 2097 has more detailed GFX then Quake. Think of all those
transparent Flares and lighting effects.

   I'm sure a PPC amiga should be able to handel it all though ;)

See ya.
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Hi!

    Go download "comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha" from Aminet.  With this software you
can access ANY drives on the PC as if they were drives connected to your
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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga gets dragged on once more......

> 
> So expect to see Wipeout 2097 soon on the Amiga, read AIO issue 17 which
> is out on the 24th October for an article on who Digital Images are and
> there other plans and news.

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From: Howard Macartney <howardm@thenet.co.uk>

Hello,
       Some new programs like contact manager are introducing new MUI
textinput.mcc mpp and textinputscroll.mcc functions. These seem to cause
strange dragging in YAM and other programs. When you install new programs make
sure that you have an old backup of the  MUI directory in case the worst
happens and you need to revert to older versions. 

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private log, stardate  36077.8 :  I recieved a message from Paul Dixon concerning
[just-amiga] Re: Epson 440

Message log:

->   Got my turbo Print today :0.
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-> they only down load there site twice a week  :( 
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From: Paul Ferguson <baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com>

Hi Stuart

On 11-Oct-95, Stuart Luscombe wrote:

>     I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)

Well you've come to the right place mate.

IRC is a wonderful way to meet people too...just fire up
AmIRC and try your luck :)

If you think that some channels may be a bit overwhelming to start
with try: 

irc.thenet.co.uk #FCI Port 7000 

We are a good bunch and welcome new users :))

>     BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
> its an Amiga floppy drive and transfer files to disk from my HD?

Not that I'm aware of :(

> -
> Stuart


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From: Hans-Joerg Frieden <hfrieden@fax.uni-trier.de>

Andrew Crowe wrote:
>   Tombraider may need less power to run, but I think we can safely say
>that Wipeout 2097 has more detailed GFX then Quake. Think of all those
>transparent Flares and lighting effects.

The flares and stuff on WipeOut XL/2097 are more or less post-render
effects, and quite easy to apply (just a matter of scaling). The graphics
detail in 2097 is ok, but there is never really THAT much on screen, and
for speed considerations, you might ommit parts of the scenery...

And there's 3D hardware, the ViRGE and the Permedia2, which would help
very much here...

Actually, I thought the original WipeOut had much better graphics, and
much better course design... XL plays better, though.

Regards, Hans-Joerg.



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If anyone has any ideas or suggestions for the GTA game
I am making please drop me a line. 

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Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:53:46 +0100

[just-amiga] Trying to meet other UK users.

Hi Stuart Luscombe

My modest reply to your....
---------------------------


> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 	I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK

Stop me and Try one?

I`m from Wittering near Stamford near Peterborough near the A1....

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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

Willi Kusche wrote:
> 
> From: Willi Kusche <willik@bellatlantic.net>
> 
> Hi!
> 
>     Go download "comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha" from Aminet.  With this software you
> can access ANY drives on the PC as if they were drives connected to your
> Amiga.  All you need is a standard serial cable to connect the serial port of
> the PC to the serial port of your Amiga.
>     You want to chat?  Please find a more appropriate forum.

Can I use this on my PC?? I mean, can I un-lha the file with Winzip or
something?

Where can I find more appropriate forums for chat then?

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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

Paul Ferguson wrote:
> 
> From: Paul Ferguson <baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com>
> 
> Hi Stuart
> 
> On 11-Oct-95, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
> 
> >     I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> > not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> > ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)
> 
> Well you've come to the right place mate.
> 
> IRC is a wonderful way to meet people too...just fire up
> AmIRC and try your luck :)

I would use IRC on my Amiga if it weren't for two small things...

1) I only have an A500

2) It doesn't have a modem!
 
> If you think that some channels may be a bit overwhelming to start
> with try:
> 
> irc.thenet.co.uk #FCI Port 7000
> 
> We are a good bunch and welcome new users :))

I'll try it out thanx.
 
> >     BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
> > its an Amiga floppy drive and transfer files to disk from my HD?
> 
> Not that I'm aware of :(

Another user of this list has told me of a way I can do it. 

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> > From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >       I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK
> 
> Stop me and Try one?
> 
> I`m from Wittering near Stamford near Peterborough near the A1....

I'm from Havant near Portsmouth, near the A3 (I think! I can't be arsed
to get a drivers license!)
 
All these ppl with fast Amigas...it's scary! Theres me with my little
A500 seeking out some software for it as the guy I bought it off gave
me a load of crap!

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Well, if the files in the lha files is longer than 8 characters you can't unpack the file with lha (on the pc ofcoz). You should download winpack in that case. Works fine.

http://www.csdd.com/download.htm

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>From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
>
>Willi Kusche wrote:
>> 
>> From: Willi Kusche <willik@bellatlantic.net>
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>>     Go download "comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha" from Aminet.  With this software you
>> can access ANY drives on the PC as if they were drives connected to your
>> Amiga.  All you need is a standard serial cable to connect the serial port of
>> the PC to the serial port of your Amiga.
>>     You want to chat?  Please find a more appropriate forum.
>
>Can I use this on my PC?? I mean, can I un-lha the file with Winzip or
>something?
>
>Where can I find more appropriate forums for chat then?
>
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>Stuart
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From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>

> The flares and stuff on WipeOut XL/2097 are more or less post-render
> effects, and quite easy to apply (just a matter of scaling). The graphics
> detail in 2097 is ok, but there is never really THAT much on screen, and
> for speed considerations, you might ommit parts of the scenery...

 If the games good/exciting/fast enough then you won't have time to 
look at the scenery :)

 Most games include stuff for changing graphic detail, why not 
inclkude one for turning off scenery or at least not texturing it.


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Hi!

    The "PC2Am308.lha" archive contains programs for both a PC and an Amiga. 
You have a modem on your PC but not on your Amiga so you can download the
archive onto your PC but then no way to get the Amiga modules over to your
Amiga.  Prime example of why you should always buy an external modem.
    The program that runs on the PC ought to be run from DOS.  It turns your
PC into a server.  On the Amiga side, a handler is installed in your "L:"
library and you add an entry to your mountlist, "PC:" for example.  Then use
the 'MOUNT' command to mount the device "PC:".  Finally, to see the contents
of drive A on the PC, simply enter 'dir PC:A' on the Amiga.  To see the
contents of the hard drive, enter 'dir PC:C'.
    Of course, the simplest solution is to install a file system handler for
MS/DOS on your Amiga so you can read MS/DOS floppies directly via the floppy
drive on your A500.  I use "PC2Amiga" because my PC has a high density floppy
drive but my A3000 does not.

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---Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> 
> Willi Kusche wrote:
> > 
> > From: Willi Kusche <willik@bellatlantic.net>
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> >     Go download "comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha" from Aminet.  With this
software you
> > can access ANY drives on the PC as if they were drives connected
to your
> > Amiga.  All you need is a standard serial cable to connect the
serial port of
> > the PC to the serial port of your Amiga.
> >     You want to chat?  Please find a more appropriate forum.
> 
> Can I use this on my PC?? I mean, can I un-lha the file with Winzip or
> something?

Yes you can BUT you need to have a copy of the command
line version of Lha and tell Winzip where it is - and DOS copies of
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> 
> Where can I find more appropriate forums for chat then?
> 
> -
> Stuart
> 
> 
> 
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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>[just-amiga] Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga gets dragged on once more......

JU>> So expect to see Wipeout 2097 soon on the Amiga, read AIO issue 17 which
JU>> is out on the 24th October for an article on who Digital Images are and
JU>> there other plans and news.

Hey that's great news...  But the big question will be : Will the game
have the excellent PSX or the sh!tty IBuM soundtrack?  ;]

(For those that don't know, the IBuM version has music written by some
freelance or inhouse guy, I think, and, well, he's crap =]

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From: Paul Ferguson <baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com>

Hi Stuart

On 12-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:

> I would use IRC on my Amiga if it weren't for two small things...

> 1) I only have an A500

Oh...

> 2) It doesn't have a modem!

Bummer.....

> I'll try it out thanx.

Erm I thought you didn't have a modem ??

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> Yes you can BUT you need to have a copy of the command
> line version of Lha and tell Winzip where it is - and DOS copies of
> Lha are not easy to find. Good luck!

After this do I need to run the software just from my PC, or does
it have to be from both my Amiga AND my PC? Cause My Amiga doesn't
have a modem (It's only an A500!) and so I can't get the files onto
an Amiga disk very easily!

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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once more......

> 	I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)

I'm in luton, where abouts are you?
 
> 	BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
> its an Amiga floppy drive and transfer files to disk from my HD?

nope, but why not make your amiga read the pc disks? you should have a
small prgram called cross-dos somewhere...
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Subject: [just-amiga] 500.....uhuh........right then....

From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Re: Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once more......

> All these ppl with fast Amigas...it's scary! Theres me with my little
> A500 seeking out some software for it as the guy I bought it off gave
> me a load of crap!

use the 500 as a door stop and get a nice 2nd hand 1200. You'll be
lucky if you can find anything for the 500, there is no hardware you
can buy for it
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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

On 11-Oct-95, you wrote:

> Hi,

Hi Stuart,

> 
>     I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)
> 

Class machine it is! I'm from the UK, I am the moderator of this list
and run Amiga Information Online magazine, which can be downloaded
from Aminet Docs/Mags under the name AIOV??.lha or find it on my
web page at : http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm

I'm happy to talk to you and anyone else if they want.

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From: Kenneth Craig <kwdjc@wf.net>

Hello Stuart

On 12-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:

> 
> Where can I find more appropriate forums for chat then?
> 
> -
> Stuart


Try using AmiComSys. Very good for talking personally to fellow Amigans. You
can get the program from:
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From: sHANE <shane@netwings.ch>

Hello hotcakes@abacus.net.au

Am 12-Okt-98 schrieb hotcakes@abacus.net.au:

> From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
> 
>> [just-amiga] Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga gets dragged on once more......
> 
>>> So expect to see Wipeout 2097 soon on the Amiga, read AIO issue 17 which
>>> is out on the 24th October for an article on who Digital Images are and
>>> there other plans and news.
> 
> Hey that's great news...  But the big question will be : Will the game
> have the excellent PSX or the sh!tty IBuM soundtrack?  ;]
> 
> (For those that don't know, the IBuM version has music written by some
> freelance or inhouse guy, I think, and, well, he's crap =]

There are enough well-talented amiga musician around, why wasting money in
investigating in expenisve licenses when you can get it for almost free?

I`m involved in the amiga demo-scene and i`m sure it will be easy to get some
good soundtracks

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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>Yes you can BUT you need to have a copy of the command
JU>line version of Lha and tell Winzip where it is - and DOS copies of
JU>Lha are not easy to find. Good luck!

Can the person who wants a copy email me and I'll give it to you.

Either that or visit http://abacus.net.au/hotcakes/filez.htm and grab it
from there.

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Subject: [just-amiga] IRC Conference - Fleecy Moss

From: "Gary Peake" <gpeake@wt.net>

MONTHLY IRC MEET WITH AMIGA INC'S FLEECY MOSS


This is to announce the regularly scheduled monthly IRC conference
with Fleecy Moss from Amiga Inc. to take place on Tuesday October 13,
1998 at 5pm EDT (Eastern Daylight Time).

The topic for this month will be Evie (latest member of the Moss
family), Corba, and other topics of interest to Classic Amiga Users
and Amiga2 supporters, as well as the REAL news from MAE. (Was Joe
Torre pinned by two models in the lobby of the hotel?)


The IRC conference will be held on the following servers:



BeyondIrcNet

     irc.snowhill.com
     more.beyondirc.net
     babylon.beyondirc.net
     europe.beyondirc.net
     oz.beyondirc.net

Channel will be:   #Team*AMIGA


We invite all interested parties to come chat with Fleecy Moss in a
moderated session of Q&A.

For those who can not attend, a log will be provided to the Amiga Web
Directory http://www.cucug.org and the Team AMIGA Web pages
http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/

Team AMIGA welcomes IRC stalwarts as well as people new to IRC. IRCOPs
will be available to assist those who need help prior to the
conference.




Sincerely,

Gary Peake
Team AMIGA

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Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga Survivor gets new look! (& more)

From: Robert Iveson <thedomain@enterprise.net>

Hello Amiga fanatics!

Well, Amiga Survivor is proving more of a success than any of us could
imagine. Our print-run increases every month and new subscribers are added to
our database daily. Even after a mere three issues!
And now everyone around the world can have a taste of it.
Amiga Survivor has recently had a complete overhaul, both the magazine, and
it's official homepage
(http://www.crystal-software.com/AmigaSurvivor/survindex.html). Go see for
yourself the new-look covers, new logos, and get information about
distributors and contents of the magazine.
Since the new look and new promotions, many stores around the planet are now
stocking issues, in the US, Canada, The UK and the rest of Europe. Have a look
at the website to see if there's a store near you! Or you can order online and
have each issue delivered to your door!

At one point in it's life, Amiga Survivor was just a games magazine, but due
to it's popularity, it has grown to covering more 'serious' items, with the
help of some ex-CU Amiga staff members. And in the coming months, AS is set to
gain more pages, and the possibility of swelling to an A4 format!

Amiga Survivor has also recently gained the rights to distribute the
incredibly popular U.S publicaton, Amiga Informer in the UK! Be one of the
first European residents to own this fine magazine by ordering it from the
Amiga Survivor website.
(http://www.crystal-software.com/AmigaSurvivor/survindex.html)

Of course, Amiga Survivor could always benefit from being even more popular,
so if you're an Amiga stockist anywhere in the world, then you could be one of
the many distributors to stock this new, popular publication.
Please note that Amiga Survivor is available via mail-order only, and not on
news-stands!

Amiga Survivor is the ONLY place to read the Work-In-Progress of Gilbert
Goodmate and the Mushroom of Phungoria (the excellent Monkey Island 3 / Disney
inspired adventure game) courtesy of Prelusion and Crystal Software.
Read the latest games reviews, previews, special features, regular articles,
and the latest Amiga news, all sandwiched between a glorious full colour
cover!

If you require any further information, then visit the website, or e-mail the
editor, Robert Iveson at: robert@survivor.enterprise-plc.com

You can subscribe online for a bulk amount of issues, or merely just the one
to give it a try. You never know, it might be just what you're looking for in
a magazine.....   

-- 
Robert Iveson,
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From: Jonathan Combe <joncombe@yahoo.com>






---Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> 
> > Yes you can BUT you need to have a copy of the command
> > line version of Lha and tell Winzip where it is - and DOS copies of
> > Lha are not easy to find. Good luck!
> 
> After this do I need to run the software just from my PC, or does
> it have to be from both my Amiga AND my PC? Cause My Amiga doesn't
> have a modem (It's only an A500!) and so I can't get the files onto
> an Amiga disk very easily!

Oh. To get the files accross you will need a version of CrossDos or
something similar - enabling you to read Double Density floppy disks
from a PC on your Amiga. Unfortunatly only newer versions of Workbench
have it (2.1 or better) but there is a program on AMinet which can do
something similar but I don't know the name.   

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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

I got the lha from the Aminet. But would it be possible for someone to
send me the equivalent Amiga version on a disk?

And does this software run on an A500? Cause that's what I'm using

-
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JU>>> [just-amiga] Wipeout 2097 on the Amiga gets dragged on once more......
JU>>
JU>>>> So expect to see Wipeout 2097 soon on the Amiga, read AIO issue 17 which
JU>>>> is out on the 24th October for an article on who Digital Images are and
JU>>>> there other plans and news.
JU>>
JU>> Hey that's great news...  But the big question will be : Will the game
JU>> have the excellent PSX or the sh!tty IBuM soundtrack?  ;]
JU>> (For those that don't know, the IBuM version has music written by some
JU>> freelance or inhouse guy, I think, and, well, he's crap =]

JU>There are enough well-talented amiga musician around, why wasting money in
JU>investigating in expensive licenses when you can get it for almost free?
JU>I`m involved in the amiga demo-scene and i`m sure it will be easy to get som
JU>good soundtracks

Oh yeh I'm just hoping they don't get the same guy who did the IBuM
soundtrack...  Hell, if anyone in DI is reading this, -I'll- do some
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From: "Dr.Abdulkadir SIRMA" <asirma@escortnet.com>

Hello Stuart,

On 13-Ekm-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:

> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> 
> I got the lha from the Aminet. But would it be possible for someone to
> send me the equivalent Amiga version on a disk?

AFAIK Lha evaluation version 1.38 is equivalent. You can find it at:
http://ftp.wustl.edu/~aminet/dirs/aminet/util/arc/LhA_e138.run

> 
> And does this software run on an A500? Cause that's what I'm using

Again AFAIK it works :-)

Best regards...

-- 
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 500.....uhuh........right then....

From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 13-Oct-98, Matthew O'Neill wrote:
>From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>
>[just-amiga] Re: Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once
>more......

>> All these ppl with fast Amigas...it's scary! Theres me with my little
>> A500 seeking out some software for it as the guy I bought it off gave
>> me a load of crap!

>use the 500 as a door stop and get a nice 2nd hand 1200. You'll be
>lucky if you can find anything for the 500, there is no hardware you
>can buy for it
>--
>MashMan


If you're into 500's  I have 34 of them.......   Want some ?
You pay the freight......

I also have a Microbotics 030 accelerator for one (no ram card)
& an AddIDE interface for IDE harddrives....


>-------------------------------------
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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

Dr.Abdulkadir SIRMA wrote:
> 
> From: "Dr.Abdulkadir SIRMA" <asirma@escortnet.com>
> 
> Hello Stuart,
> 
> On 13-Ekm-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
> 
> > From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> >
> > I got the lha from the Aminet. But would it be possible for someone to
> > send me the equivalent Amiga version on a disk?
> 
> AFAIK Lha evaluation version 1.38 is equivalent. You can find it at:
> http://ftp.wustl.edu/~aminet/dirs/aminet/util/arc/LhA_e138.run
> 
> >
> > And does this software run on an A500? Cause that's what I'm using
> 
> Again AFAIK it works :-)

The software's not the problem, it's my Amiga, it's NOT connected to
the net, but my PC is, so I need to SOMEHOW get the files onto an
Amiga disk to be able to use them.

BTW, has anyone found a version of LHA for Win'95 that'll do long
filenames?

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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

Matthew O'Neill wrote:
> 
> From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>
> 
> [just-amiga] Re: Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once more......
> 
> > All these ppl with fast Amigas...it's scary! Theres me with my little
> > A500 seeking out some software for it as the guy I bought it off gave
> > me a load of crap!
> 
> use the 500 as a door stop and get a nice 2nd hand 1200. You'll be
> lucky if you can find anything for the 500, there is no hardware you
> can buy for it

Hey, the 500 has kickass games! i.e. Dune 2, Turrican 2, Hired Guns etc.

BTW, 1200's aren't easy to come by around here.

Can Workbench 2.* be run off a 500? Or do u need a higher Kickstart?
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>If you're into 500's  I have 34 of them.......   Want some ?
>You pay the freight......

I also have a 1mb a500 for free for postage. if anyone wants it...

I'm after a second hand 16 bit sampler if anyone has one?

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From: BOURMAULT Philippe <BOURMAPH@e-i.com>


Hello,
I'm also looking for a way for 16bit sampling, so I have some questions :
Does 16bit sampler exists for the parallel port or only for zorro II audio
cards ?
What is the best 16 bit sampler ? What do you all use as sampler ?
Thanks for your responses ...
Philippe BOURMAULT
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De:	Cold Spring [SMTP:coldspring@thenet.co.uk]
> Date:	mardi 13 octobre 1998 20:40
> À:	Colin Wenzel
> Objet:	[just-amiga] Re: 500.....uhuh........right then....
> 
> From: Cold Spring <coldspring@thenet.co.uk>
> 
> >If you're into 500's  I have 34 of them.......   Want some ?
> >You pay the freight......
> 
> I also have a 1mb a500 for free for postage. if anyone wants it...
> 
> I'm after a second hand 16 bit sampler if anyone has one?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> Justin / COLD SPRING
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC to Amiga transfer

From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

Linus Akesson wrote:
> 
> From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
> 
> On 13-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
> 
> >The software's not the problem, it's my Amiga, it's NOT connected to
> >the net, but my PC is, so I need to SOMEHOW get the files onto an
> >Amiga disk to be able to use them.
> 
> >-
> >Stuart
> 
> Easy; fire up AmigaBASIC, write a small program like this:
> 
> open "filename" for output as 1
> input a
> while a<>-1
> input a
> print#1,chr$(a);
> wend
> close
> 
> And then use a hex editor on the pc.. =)
> 
> But seriously, how do you expect to get the files transferred without even a
> null-modem?

Huh? Firstly, I don't have AmigaBASIC anyway, it didn't come with my
Amiga. And I can get a null modem cable, but will that routine do the
job?

Forgive my stupidity, but the Amiga's way of thinking is confusing me.
Hasn't someone wrote a way to put Amiga disks in a PC drive and make
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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once more......

> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 	I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)
> 
> 	BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
> its an Amiga floppy drive and transfer files to disk from my HD?

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 500.....uhuh........right then....

From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Re: 500.....uhuh........right then.... gets dragged on once more......

> If you're into 500's  I have 34 of them.......   Want some ?
> You pay the freight......
> 
> I also have a Microbotics 030 accelerator for one (no ram card)
> & an AddIDE interface for IDE harddrives....

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC to Amiga transfer

From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>

On 13-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:

>The software's not the problem, it's my Amiga, it's NOT connected to
>the net, but my PC is, so I need to SOMEHOW get the files onto an
>Amiga disk to be able to use them.

>-
>Stuart

Easy; fire up AmigaBASIC, write a small program like this:

open "filename" for output as 1
input a
while a<>-1
input a
print#1,chr$(a);
wend
close

And then use a hex editor on the pc.. =)

But seriously, how do you expect to get the files transferred without even a
null-modem?

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 16 Bit Sampler Was Re: 500.....uhuh........right then....

From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

BOURMAULT Philippe (BOURMAPH@e-i.com) wrote:

>I'm also looking for a way for 16bit sampling, so I have some questions :
>Does 16bit sampler exists for the parallel port 

Yes, did exist anyway. The Clarity16 does that but I don't know if it's
available anymore. Check http://www.hisoft.co.uk to make sure. Otherwise,
try to find one secondhand.

>or only for zorro II audio cards ?

That's the better option if you have a Zorroslot-equipped machine. Some
of the audio-cards are not that expensive.

>What is the best 16 bit sampler ? What do you all use as sampler ?

I don't know which one is best but I am very pleased with the Prelude
soundcard. Poor old Paula doesn't have a chance in comparison, neither
in playing or sampling.

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On 13-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
>From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

>Linus Akesson wrote:
>> 
>> From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
>> 
>> On 13-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
>> 
>> >The software's not the problem, it's my Amiga, it's NOT connected to
>> >the net, but my PC is, so I need to SOMEHOW get the files onto an
>> >Amiga disk to be able to use them.
>> 
>> >-
>> >Stuart
>> 
>> Easy; fire up AmigaBASIC, write a small program like this:
>> 
>> open "filename" for output as 1
>> input a
>> while a<>-1
>> input a
>> print#1,chr$(a);
>> wend
>> close
>> 
>> And then use a hex editor on the pc.. =)
>> 
>> But seriously, how do you expect to get the files transferred without even
a
>> null-modem?

>Huh? Firstly, I don't have AmigaBASIC anyway, it didn't come with my
>Amiga. And I can get a null modem cable, but will that routine do the
>job?

>Forgive my stupidity, but the Amiga's way of thinking is confusing me.
>Hasn't someone wrote a way to put Amiga disks in a PC drive and make
>them work?

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Well, heh, that routine involves copying the file by hand by looking at a hex
editor on the pc. =) But if you have a null modem cable you should of course
use it. Try doing a "copy SER: to filename", and then something similar on
the pc, but copying from a file to the serial port.

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From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>

On 13-Oct-98, Jonas Thorell wrote:

>I don't know which one is best but I am very pleased with the Prelude
>soundcard. Poor old Paula doesn't have a chance in comparison, neither
>in playing or sampling.

Especially in sampling... =)

Anyway (in reply to some earlier message), I use some 8 bit thingy by
Trilogic. You plug it into the parallel port, and attach a mono out line from
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 16 Bit Sampler Was Re: 500.....uhuh........right then....

From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Linus Akesson (lairfight@softhome.net) wrote:

>>I don't know which one is best but I am very pleased with the Prelude
>>soundcard. Poor old Paula doesn't have a chance in comparison, neither
>>in playing or sampling.

>Especially in sampling... =)

She's needed there too. Otherwise nothing would get sampled.

>Anyway (in reply to some earlier message), I use some 8 bit thingy by
>Trilogic. You plug it into the parallel port, and attach a mono out line from
>the stereo. Works ok, but I'd really like to have 16 bits instead.

I have one in stereo but it cheats. Don't know if it's by Trilogic though
but it works fine with Audiomaster. If anyone wants it, it's yours.

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC to Amiga transfer

From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Stuart Luscombe (stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com) wrote:

>Huh? Firstly, I don't have AmigaBASIC anyway, it didn't come with my
>Amiga. 

Believe me, you don't want it. It's a piece of crap.

>And I can get a null modem cable, but will that routine do the
>job?

Yes but without errorchecks and it would be very slow.

>Hasn't someone wrote a way to put Amiga disks in a PC drive and make
>them work?

Not possible. 

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From: Cold Spring <coldspring@thenet.co.uk>

>I have one in stereo but it cheats. Don't know if it's by Trilogic though
>but it works fine with Audiomaster. If anyone wants it, it's yours.

How much is it?

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On 14-Oct-98, BOURMAULT Philippe wrote:
>From: BOURMAULT Philippe <BOURMAPH@e-i.com>

>Hello,
>I'm also looking for a way for 16bit sampling, so I have some questions :
>Does 16bit sampler exists for the parallel port or only for zorro II audio
>cards ?
>What is the best 16 bit sampler ? What do you all use as sampler ?
>Thanks for your responses ...
>Philippe BOURMAULT
>* 03.88.14.86.69
>* BOURMAPH@E-I.COM

There are only 8 data bits available on the parallel port.
Doing a 16 bit transfer via the parallel port would require sending
2 bytes per sample, this alone is not a major problem,
but I don't know of any software that supports this.

ie:  AudioMaster,Audio Engineer......

I presume that someone has made a card to do it via the zorro slot,
it would make life a bit easier....


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From: Sridhar Iyer <sridhar.i@usa.net>

Huh?

I just dunno why everyone is bothered about copying filez over by floppy.
It is such a unreliable method! I prefer to use TwinExpress. Available on
aminet. A simple three wire null modem cable gives me acceptable results.
And the beauty is Twin is pretty small in size!! Just @ 56K or so!!!! And
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I cant believe no one else thought of this earlier or do you chaps have a
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At 11:03 AM 14-10-98 EDT, you wrote:
>Again, I have a copy of that =] Mail me your EMail address and I'll send
>it your way...

Plz. mail me a copy of LhA for Windoze. Danke.

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On 14 Oct 98, at 14:49, Sridhar Iyer collapsed under the weight of:

> I just dunno why everyone is bothered about copying filez over by floppy.
> It is such a unreliable method! I prefer to use TwinExpress. Available on
> aminet. A simple three wire null modem cable gives me acceptable results.
> And the beauty is Twin is pretty small in size!! Just @ 56K or so!!!! And
> dead easy to use too.

 Yeah, but the problem is that he is trying to get PC2Amiga from one 
machine to the other. The same would happen using TwinExpress, he 
needs to copy via floppy to get the executables on the correct 
machine before he can use serial/parallel.
 
> I cant believe no one else thought of this earlier or do you chaps have a
> faster method????

 Use WinUAE then you don't have to transfer files at all ;)


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Sridhar Iyer wrote:
> 
> From: Sridhar Iyer <sridhar.i@usa.net>
> 
> Huh?
> 
> I just dunno why everyone is bothered about copying filez over by floppy.
> It is such a unreliable method! I prefer to use TwinExpress. Available on
> aminet. A simple three wire null modem cable gives me acceptable results.
> And the beauty is Twin is pretty small in size!! Just @ 56K or so!!!! And
> dead easy to use too.
> 
> I cant believe no one else thought of this earlier or do you chaps have a
> faster method????

I shall tell you my main reason for wanting to do this. You see, I
can download games and stuff from the net from emulator sites,
convert it back to it's original filenames and then put them
into my Amiga.

The thing is, my Amiga DOESN'T have a modem and I can't put
the disks into my PC. So I have a problem!

Plus mine is an A500, I live in the dark ages when games were GOOD!

That server thing that someone talked about? Is it possible to
link my PC to my Amiga but make my PC think the Amiga's floppy
drive is an external drive or something??

My friend used to have a program on his A500+ which loaded through
Workbench and allowed him to use PC floppies. Does anyone have this?
It came on a coverdisk.

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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

David McMinn wrote:
> 
> From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>
> 
> On 14 Oct 98, at 14:49, Sridhar Iyer collapsed under the weight of:
> 
> > I just dunno why everyone is bothered about copying filez over by floppy.
> > It is such a unreliable method! I prefer to use TwinExpress. Available on
> > aminet. A simple three wire null modem cable gives me acceptable results.
> > And the beauty is Twin is pretty small in size!! Just @ 56K or so!!!! And
> > dead easy to use too.
> 
>  Yeah, but the problem is that he is trying to get PC2Amiga from one
> machine to the other. The same would happen using TwinExpress, he
> needs to copy via floppy to get the executables on the correct
> machine before he can use serial/parallel.
> 
> > I cant believe no one else thought of this earlier or do you chaps have a
> > faster method????
> 
>  Use WinUAE then you don't have to transfer files at all ;)

My PC's too slow to run WinUAE, plus why use an emulator when I can
play on the real thing?
 
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From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

hotcakes@abacus.net.au wrote:
> 
> From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
> 
> JU>Hey, the 500 has kickass games! i.e. Dune 2, Turrican 2, Hired Guns etc.
> 
> Well I don't know about T2 but Dune and Hired Guns are *MUCH* better on
> the 1200 ;]

How much do 2nd hand A1200's go for these days?
 
> JU>Can Workbench 2.* be run off a 500? Or do u need a higher Kickstart?
> 
> Yup =]
> 
> To the Kickstart question, btw

DAMN! 

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From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>

On 14 Oct 98, at 15:01, Stuart Luscombe collapsed under the weight of:

> My PC's too slow to run WinUAE, plus why use an emulator when I can
> play on the real thing?

 Well for a start, the WinUAE Amiga would be better than your A500 
(apart from not having an Amiga floopy drive). You can get a 
68020/882 with 70+Mb ram, as much storage space as your PC has and 
with v0.7.5 you can get the GFX card version. You only need to pay 
for the shareware fees for WinUAE and the Picasso system (for the 
uaegfx drivers). You'd also be able to use all the rom images you 
had, selecting a different one at boot-up to use liek a ROM switcher, 
and if you use the original chipset (although you need a damned fast 
PC to do that) you'd be back to the same graphics chipset that you 
have.

 How many people on this list use WinUAE anyway? I only use it at 
uni, less now since I got my 060...




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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>Hey, the 500 has kickass games! i.e. Dune 2, Turrican 2, Hired Guns etc.

Well I don't know about T2 but Dune and Hired Guns are *MUCH* better on
the 1200 ;]

JU>Can Workbench 2.* be run off a 500? Or do u need a higher Kickstart?

Yup =]

To the Kickstart question, btw

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JU>BTW, has anyone found a version of LHA for Win'95 that'll do long
JU>filenames?

Again, I have a copy of that =] Mail me your EMail address and I'll send
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JU>>Forgive my stupidity, but the Amiga's way of thinking is confusing me.
JU>>Hasn't someone wrote a way to put Amiga disks in a PC drive and make
JU>>them work?

Crappy IBuM drives can't handle the Amiga's filesystem =]

Well, I think.  That's what I was told.  Is this right, everyone?  =]

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PRESS/NEWS release 14/10/98 (For every Amiga user)

Amiga Information Online is currently raising funds to buy a
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From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>

On 14-Oct-98, Jonas Thorell wrote:
>From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

>Linus Akesson (lairfight@softhome.net) wrote:

>>>I don't know which one is best but I am very pleased with the Prelude
>>>soundcard. Poor old Paula doesn't have a chance in comparison, neither
>>>in playing or sampling.

>>Especially in sampling... =)

>She's needed there too. Otherwise nothing would get sampled.

True. Didn't think of that...

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Matthew O'Neill wrote:
> 
> From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>
> 
> [just-amiga] Trying to meet other UK users. gets dragged on once more......
> 
> > From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >       I'm trying to get in touch with other Amiga users in the UK,
> > not only to expand my dire software collection, but to chat to other
> > ppl who obvioulsy have the brains to like such a class machine! :)
> >
> >       BTW, is there ANY way to make my PC's floppy drive think
> > its an Amiga floppy drive and transfer files to disk from my HD?
> 
> 1098 days old !!!???

I know, I know, I think the battery on my PC's motherboard is screwed!
It resets the clock every morning! Along with my 2nd HD and my modem!

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,


> There are only 8 data bits available on the parallel port.
> Doing a 16 bit transfer via the parallel port would require sending
> 2 bytes per sample, this alone is not a major problem,
> but I don't know of any software that supports this.

> ie:  AudioMaster,Audio Engineer......

> I presume that someone has made a card to do it via the zorro slot,
> it would make life a bit easier....

   Doesn't some version of Techno Sound have 16bit recording and 14bit
playback?

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From: "Gary Peake" <gpeake@wt.net>



Question:

Why these high system requirements for the OS3.5 Upgrade? Up to now
AOS was running on ALL Amigas!!



The "honest" answer: To encourage customers to upgrade their
hardware and thus provide input and sales activity for the market.



The "tricky" answer: The new OS will deliver more power and
functionality, but it cannot do this unless the hardware platform
supports it to do this.



The "some people might find the following statement offensive"
answer: listen Sunshine, we've seen the likes of you before. Always
whining about how slow your 7 MHz A500 is, how difficult it is to
upgrade that crummy machine and then expecting Amiga Inc. to work
miracles, possibly even by releasing any OS update for free. If you
want a miracle, go join a church. And not the Church of the
Amiga!



The "historical" answer: When the last AmigaOS update was released,
Windows 95 and the Pentium processor were still two years from
delivery. Today the standard PC configuration is a 64 MByte, 233
Pentium
II machine with Windows 98. Do you really believe that requiring an
Amiga system that was considered "high performance" in 1988 is asking
too much of you?



The "embarrassing" answer: Amiga Inc. wants to make sure that all
Amigas running OS 3.5 are at least as fast as UAE, running on a
233 Pentium II.



The "that's what Heinlein would have said" answer: Think of it as
evolution in action.



The "you gotta be kidding" answer: Actually, Amiga Inc. had *you* in
mind
when they pictured the kind of customer they don't want to buying OS
3.5.



The "obvious" answer: Are you stupid or what?



The "that's what Darwin would have said" answer: Only the fittest
Amiga Classic computers will survive.



The "buzz off" answer: Why don't you go upgrade your PC?




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Stuart wrote

>My friend used to have a program on his A500+ which loaded through
>Workbench and allowed him to use PC floppies. Does anyone have this?
>It came on a coverdisk.

hmmm, the proggy that ur friend used was called CrossDos. Now u do have a
unique problem. To get the CrossDos system mounted on ur Amiga u must have
it in Amiga formatted disks. So .. ? Thinking cap on ...

Nope. No way mate. your best bet would be to ask someone on this list who
lives reasonably close to you to mail u a floppy (bootable) with Twin
(amiga version, the pc version u can download) and dms etc. I am sure that
someone here would do it for you. I will if no one else bothers but I live
in India ad it might be a while before it reaches ya!! Mebbe a coupla
weeks. Lemme know.

Ciao
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From: Sridhar Iyer <sridhar.i@usa.net>

From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>
>
> How many people on this list use WinUAE anyway? I only use it at 
>uni, less now since I got my 060...
>

I do, though I have 2 A1200s!! One at work and one at home. But the PC is
hooked to the net. So any aminet downloads are first given a test on WinUAE
before i twinexpress it to the miggy. Is there a winUAE mailing list??
Loadsa queries on winUAE from me!!

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From: "Gary Peake" <gpeake@wt.net>

hotcakes@abacus.net.au scribed to us about [just-amiga] TA's
UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ! in Just_Amiga

>From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>>Question:

JU>>Why these high system requirements for the OS3.5 Upgrade? Up to
JU>>now AOS was running on ALL Amigas!!

>I don't know who brought this up, but you should consider becoming a
>comedian =]

Just watching all the whining in the newsgroups ... :)

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JU>> JU>Hey, the 500 has kickass games! i.e. Dune 2, Turrican 2, Hired Guns etc
JU>>
JU>> Well I don't know about T2 but Dune and Hired Guns are *MUCH* better on
JU>> the 1200 ;]

JU>How much do 2nd hand A1200's go for these days?

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JU>Question:

JU>Why these high system requirements for the OS3.5 Upgrade? Up to now
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Stuart,
    What O.S. are you running?? I've got two A500's with GVP A530's, one
running 1.3/3.1, and the other 1.3/2.1. Perhaps you should at LEAST
upgrade to O.S. 2.1, as this includes CrossDos (as does O.S. 3.1).
    Come on dude, get with the program! Sure, I'm only running A500's,
but with a 40Mhz 68030/68882 and O.S. 3.1, there is little that I can't
run (barring AGA only stuff).

Bob Mason

Buff A500 user (and damned Proud of my Amiga!)

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   Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:59:42 +0100
   From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>
Subject: Re: PC to Amiga transfer

Sridhar Iyer wrote:
>
> From: Sridhar Iyer <sridhar.i@usa.net>
>
> Huh?
>
> I just dunno why everyone is bothered about copying filez over by
floppy.
> It is such a unreliable method! I prefer to use TwinExpress. Available
on
> aminet. A simple three wire null modem cable gives me acceptable
results.
> And the beauty is Twin is pretty small in size!! Just @ 56K or so!!!!
And
> dead easy to use too.
>
> I cant believe no one else thought of this earlier or do you chaps
have a
> faster method????

I shall tell you my main reason for wanting to do this. You see, I
can download games and stuff from the net from emulator sites,
convert it back to it's original filenames and then put them
into my Amiga.

The thing is, my Amiga DOESN'T have a modem and I can't put
the disks into my PC. So I have a problem!

Plus mine is an A500, I live in the dark ages when games were GOOD!

That server thing that someone talked about? Is it possible to
link my PC to my Amiga but make my PC think the Amiga's floppy
drive is an external drive or something??

My friend used to have a program on his A500+ which loaded through
Workbench and allowed him to use PC floppies. Does anyone have this?
It came on a coverdisk.

-
Stuart

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On 12-Oct-98, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
> From: Stuart Luscombe <stuart.luscombe@mcmail.com>

> > Yes you can BUT you need to have a copy of the command
> > line version of Lha and tell Winzip where it is - and DOS copies of
> > Lha are not easy to find. Good luck!

> After this do I need to run the software just from my PC, or does
> it have to be from both my Amiga AND my PC? Cause My Amiga doesn't
> have a modem (It's only an A500!) and so I can't get the files onto
> an Amiga disk very easily!

You will need:

NULL modem cable      (From your previous mails I found out that you have)

Terminal program for PC (Shouldn't be a big problem)

Terminal program for your Amy (Try to find out terminus NComm or JrComm
                               some where and your problem is solved)

So then you can make link from PC to Amy and just upload the stuff from PC
terminal proggy and voila the file is transferred to your Amy. ;) sounds
               easy and it should be, but you never know about those PCs.

If you didn't understand then you can mail me directly and I can try to
give a more specific explanation.

PS. after you have transfered the archive to your Amy you can unpack it and
send the PC version back by uploaning it (pack it with zip if you can).

PS. PS. important rules while making null terminal connection!!

        make sure both terminals use same speed (for example 19200 bps)
        if cable is only 3wire cable use lower speed because the lack of
          error and flow control checking.
        make sure both proggys use same file transfering protocol! (for
          example Zmodem 32bit CRC with 1024 byte packet size. This One is
          quite appropriate setting in your case)
        If you get bad progs after sending them through null link just pack
          those before sending, and it should be okey!
        Use Zip as packing because it's PC's most commonly used packing
          proggy, and thus may even work. ;)

         _____________________________________________________
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Hi Alan

On 16-Oct-98, Alan Paynter wrote:

> I also tried irc.thenet.co.uk (as suggested recently by someone on this
> list),a couple of times. Only found a "dog" there too. 

A "dog" ? We do have a reindeer but no dogs AFAIK

If you mean a bot then it's quite possible that the owner was
there but not at the keyboard when you joined.

>Surely there must  be an Amiga Channel where adults can go to. 

Try thenet again...I should be there Tonight, Sat and Sun from (approx)
9pm 'til about 11 or so. I'll be [Baldrick] or something close to it anyway :)

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Hi Chris, 3 Saturdays ago I met you and your dog (Shell was her name ? ;-)
at irc.stealth.net. Couldnt make it the following Sat, but last week I
only found your sleeping puppy. Erm, what have I missed, Chris?
...............
I also tried irc.thenet.co.uk (as suggested recently by someone on this
list),a couple of times. Only found a "dog" there too. Surely there must
 be an Amiga Channel where adults can go to. The only populated one I know has
been taken over by spotty bored kids. Can anyone help?

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From: Alan Paynter <a.paynter@zoo.co.uk>

Hi Paul

On 16-Oct-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> 
> A "dog" ? We do have a reindeer but no dogs AFAIK
not even a husky one? Oh, well, send me a reindeer at Xmas then ;-)

> If you mean a bot then it's quite possible that the owner was
> there but not at the keyboard when you joined.
yes I probably mean that, but cant spell it ;-)
>> Surely there must  be an Amiga Channel where adults can go to. 
> 
> Try thenet again...I should be there Tonight, Sat and Sun from (approx)
> 9pm 'til about 11 or so. I'll be [Baldrick] or something close to it anyway
:)
Thanx a lot for that info . Ill try to join you. and might be Harlech.
Baldrick? An escapee from The Blackadder TV series?

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From: "Paul Dixon" <pauldix@valerie.u-net.com>

  Hi one and all,
                       Me again !
       Do any one Know where I can get my Power CD 2 speed  install
disc's upgraded ? The virsion I have is 1.07.  Dated 24/3/95.
       I need this as there are four Error's on my disc !!!! :-(
       No I didn't make back ups of the disc's   Yes I know, more fool
me ! :-(
      Any one help a fool ;-)
      Thanks

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: TA's UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ!

From: Hans-Joerg Frieden <hfrieden@uni-trier.de>

On 16 Oct 1998, ian urie wrote:

> As for the specs for 3.5.....
> I think most people still using their Amigas will have at least 4meg,
> an '060 is a different matter.I also believe the point he was trying
> to get across was that Amigas functioned previously on very meagre
> system resources as opposed to the bloated spec list for comparable
> PC applications.....
I would not go so far as to call a '020 "bloated". I think it's really
time to push the envelope a little bit. I would have liked it to be a 040
or 060, with MMU support. I don't see why there should still be support
for those guys that thought that Doom was so slow on their machines
because of lazy programmers.


> Since the advent of the New machine is apprx. 6 months later than 3.5,
> will anyone actually buy upgrades for a machine which won't be actively
> supported by the parent company? And given the fact that,hopefully,everyone
> will rush out and buy the new machine,is it worth their while?
Whoever still has an 68000 *only* is not a very likely customer for the
new machines. The 68000 went out of style ages ago, as did a 020 and 030. 

Personally, I wish they had based the new design on a bit higher spec.

Regards, Hans-Joerg.

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From: "William F. Maddock" <wmaddock@icon-stl.net>

On 16-Oct-98 17:09:46 hfrieden@uni-trier.de Hans-Joerg Frieden wrote:

>I would not go so far as to call a '020 "bloated". I think it's really
>time to push the envelope a little bit. I would have liked it to be a
>040 or 060, with MMU support. I don't see why there should still be
>support for those guys that thought that Doom was so slow on their
>machines because of lazy programmers.

>Whoever still has an 68000 *only* is not a very likely customer for the
>new machines. The 68000 went out of style ages ago, as did a 020 and
>030.

>Personally, I wish they had based the new design on a bit higher spec.

Personally, I am an avid Amiga user. I have two 68030/68882 based
machines sitting in front of me. One has 34 megs, the other has 18 megs.
I can't afford to upgrade either of them. I *might* be able to afford an
OS upgrade for them, though.

You may not recognize my name, I don't know. If you explore AmiNET under
docs/mags you'll find a series of archives (FLAK????.lha). All ofthose
were posted by me when I was editor of the Gateway Amiga Club, Inc.
newsletter, the *GAC FLAK*. Further, if you explore pix/art you'll find
a series of JPEGs uploaded by me. Each are graphics created on my out of
date 68030/68882 based amigas.

I'm *very* glad that the specs allow for the processor I use, and that I
don't need to buy a new accellerator (probably meaning new RAM also)
just to upgrade the OS.

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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

On 16-Oct-98, you wrote:

> From: Alan Paynter <a.paynter@zoo.co.uk>
> 
> Hi Chris, 3 Saturdays ago I met you and your dog (Shell was her name ?
;-)

Dog, yeah it was a Camel actually :)

> at irc.stealth.net. Couldnt make it the following Sat, but last week I
> only found your sleeping puppy. Erm, what have I missed, Chris?

Nothing as far as i know, noone seemed to visit #just-amiga on ircnet,
did you all die? or am I boring you all ;)

> ...............
> I also tried irc.thenet.co.uk (as suggested recently by someone on this
> list),a couple of times. Only found a "dog" there too. 

Wrong again it's still a camel

Surely there must
> be an Amiga Channel where adults can go to. The only populated one I
know has
> been taken over by spotty bored kids. Can anyone help?
> 

#amiga by chance ;) only kidding, or did you really mean that channel :)

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Have you registered as an AIO reader yet? if not email the
'form.txt' that comes inside each AIO archive or goto

http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/reg.htm

and do it online.

BTW : The new aio web page will probably be called www.aio.co.uk
when funding is sorted. If your interested in advertising on it
just request details.

Thankeee!

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: TA's UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ!

From: "ian urie" <ianurie@jwu.u-net.com>

On 14-Oct-98 21:15:26, Gary Peake said about [just-amiga] TA's UnOfficial
OS3.5 FAQ!:

The "Nit Picking" answer:

> The "that's what Heinlein would have said" answer: Think of it as
> evolution in action.

Actually it was Larry Niven in "Oath Of Fealty" although I'll bet
Heinlein wished he had said it.

As for the specs for 3.5.....
I think most people still using their Amigas will have at least 4meg,
an '060 is a different matter.I also believe the point he was trying
to get across was that Amigas functioned previously on very meagre
system resources as opposed to the bloated spec list for comparable
PC applications.....
Hopefully the "New" amigas will have the necessary clout for the next
generation but lets not forget that 3.5 is simply to improve what we
already have.
Since the advent of the New machine is apprx. 6 months later than 3.5,
will anyone actually buy upgrades for a machine which won't be actively
supported by the parent company? And given the fact that,hopefully,everyone
will rush out and buy the new machine,is it worth their while?
2p worth finished...... back to lurking.


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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: TA's UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ!

From: "Gary Peake" <gpeake@wt.net>

ianurie@jwu.u-net.com scribed to us about [just-amiga] Re: TA's
UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ! in Just_Amiga

>From: "ian urie" <ianurie@jwu.u-net.com>

>On 14-Oct-98 21:15:26, Gary Peake said about [just-amiga] TA's
>UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ!:

>The "Nit Picking" answer:

>> The "that's what Heinlein would have said" answer: Think of it as
>> evolution in action.

>Actually it was Larry Niven in "Oath Of Fealty" although I'll bet
>Heinlein wished he had said it.

>As for the specs for 3.5.....
>I think most people still using their Amigas will have at least 4meg,
>an '060 is a different matter.I also believe the point he was trying
>to get across was that Amigas functioned previously on very meagre
>system resources as opposed to the bloated spec list for comparable
>PC applications..... Hopefully the "New" amigas will have the
>necessary clout for the next generation but lets not forget that 3.5
>is simply to improve what we already have. Since the advent of the
>New machine is apprx. 6 months later than 3.5, will anyone actually
>buy upgrades for a machine which won't be actively supported by the
>parent company? And given the fact that,hopefully,everyone will rush
>out and buy the new machine,is it worth their while?
>2p worth finished...... back to lurking.

The Classic lifespan is estimated to be 18-36 months. That is twice
the lifetime of most computer upgrades sold, so, yes, people will rush
out to buy it.


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    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: TA's UnOfficial OS3.5 FAQ!, Hans-Joerg Frieden, you said : 
> From: Hans-Joerg Frieden <hfrieden@uni-trier.de>
> 
> On 16 Oct 1998, ian urie wrote:
> 
> > Since the advent of the New machine is apprx. 6 months later than 3.5,
> > will anyone actually buy upgrades for a machine which won't be actively
> > supported by the parent company? And given the fact that,hopefully,everyone
> > will rush out and buy the new machine,is it worth their while?
> Whoever still has an 68000 *only* is not a very likely customer for the
> new machines. The 68000 went out of style ages ago, as did a 020 and 030. 

    I must dissagree with you.
    We are NOT all made of money. Some of us sill have 030's and can't
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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>

Hi everyone!

Just wanted to let you all know that i just released v0.46 of my 
RealAmiga Player. 

What it is??

well it is a RealAudio player that can play both 14.4 and 28.8 streams 
(using radecode & radecode2). It is at the moment only CLI-based but i 
am working on a gui.

Take a look at: www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ellington/783/

And please let me know if you find any bugs/problems!

Have fun!

// Alcom //

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Hello Nicklas,

On 17-Okt-98, Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson writes:

> Take a look at: www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ellington/783/

Do you think, black writing on dark background is good to read?

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On 18-Oct-98, you wrote:


> 
> Dale Hemenway.
>

Don't you run an amiga company? or am i mistaken?

>  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good idea :) check out the new design. Donations still wanted
to buy www.aio.co.uk find out what you can win or get if you 
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>From: Sebastian Becker <beckers@TU-Cottbus.De>
>To: just-amiga@onelist.com
>Hello Nicklas,
>
>On 17-Okt-98, Nicklas 'Alcom' J=F6nsson writes:
>
>> Take a look at: www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ellington/783/
>
>Do you think, black writing on dark background is good to read?

i'm sorry , i dont really understand you here! do you mean you have
any problem with the homepage or the program???
if it is the homepage then YOU suggest any better colors (ie #00ff00 -=20
green)...:)

besides i CAN read it..... ;)
>
>Regards,
>Sebastian Becker
>--=20

love, peace and maybe understanding...

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Nicklas 'Alcom' J=F6nsson (nicklas97@hotmail.com) wrote:

>>Do you think, black writing on dark background is good to read?

>i'm sorry , i dont really understand you here! do you mean you have
>any problem with the homepage or the program???
>if it is the homepage then YOU suggest any better colors (ie #00ff00 -=20
>green)...:)

Where's the black writing on the homepage?? A dark background pattern
and yellow text is what I get.

Nice little program, only one problem which isn't your fault. Most of the
RA files have higher compression than 28.8k nowadays.=20

This is a rather typical output from the RA-files I have around here:

-RealAmiga Player V0.46 by Alcom-
File: BOAG.RA
Title: Barrel Of A Gun (Behind The Barrel Mix)$Depeche Mode (remixed by T=
ranceBack)/1997
=B7M!>j=A1l^=F9THIRD FLOOR VIOLATIONS all rights reserved_Copyright: Ol=D7=
y=3D}=A5=DBJ=DB=D7.yH$=B2=FA=A3s=B0=A4=D6-=AB=B5$=B4=DEZ=AA
Compression: dnet
Length: 2059900 bytes. (hex: $001F6E7C)

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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>


Sorry but I can't get it to work,  it just prints an error message..


my usage:    RAP play dh1:sounds/music.ra

It comes back with:  radecode2 unable to open redirection file.
                     radecode2 failed returncode 10

Any suggestions ????


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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:00:24 +0000, Alan Paynter wrote,
> Surely there must
>  be an Amiga Channel where adults can go to. The only populated one I know has
> been taken over by spotty bored kids. Can anyone help?

#Harryhomers is a friendly channel populated by a broad age range
(about 16 to  60+). It's primarily for conversation about anything and
everything, with a sister channel called #HarryTech for the heavy
techie stuff to be dealt with. Any computer platform is welcome,
though the majority of poeple on channel are Amiga users, and in
fact derive from the old #Netconnect on Dalnet. The channels can be
found on Babylon.BeyondIRC.Net on ports 6660 to 6670.

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From: Sebastian Becker <beckers@TU-Cottbus.De>

Hello Nicklas,

On 17-Okt-98, Nicklas 'Alcom' J=F6nsson writes:

>>> Take a look at: www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ellington/783/
>> Do you think, black writing on dark background is good to read?
> i'm sorry , i dont really understand you here! do you mean you have
> any problem with the homepage or the program???
> if it is the homepage then YOU suggest any better colors (ie #00ff00 -=20
> green)...:)

I mean the homepage... but this black writing seems to be a bug of
voyager... when I use IBrowse I get yellow writing... ;-)

> besides i CAN read it..... ;)

Now I'm too!

Regards,
Sebastian Becker
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>


>From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

>Nice little program, only one problem which isn't your fault. Most of 
the
>RA files have higher compression than 28.8k nowadays. 

This will be corrected if someone knows how to decode these higher
compression.
>
>This is a rather typical output from the RA-files I have around here:
>
>-RealAmiga Player V0.46 by Alcom-
>File: BOAG.RA
>Title: Barrel Of A Gun (Behind The Barrel Mix)$Depeche Mode (remixed by 
TranceBack)/1997
>·M!>j¡l^ùTHIRD FLOOR VIOLATIONS all rights reserved_Copyright: 
Ol×y=}¥ÛJÛ×.yH$²ú£s°¤Ö-«µ$´ÞZª
There seems to be a little bug here! where can i download this file 
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!
>
>From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>
>
>
>Sorry but I can't get it to work,  it just prints an error message..
>
>
>my usage:    RAP play dh1:sounds/music.ra
>
>It comes back with:  radecode2 unable to open redirection file.
>                     radecode2 failed returncode 10
>
>Any suggestions ????
>
Do you have AHI installed???
You also need to mount the device AUDIO:

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 19-Oct-98, Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson wrote:
>From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>

>>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!
>>
>>From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>
>>Sorry but I can't get it to work,  it just prints an error message..
>>my usage:    RAP play dh1:sounds/music.ra
>>
>>It comes back with:  radecode2 unable to open redirection file.
>>                     radecode2 failed returncode 10
>>
>>Any suggestions ????
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Do you have AHI installed???
>You also need to mount the device AUDIO:
-----------------------------------------------------------
AHI is installed, but I really have no idea what it's for anyway,
it's preferences are set to "Paula Hi Fi, 8 Bit Stereo."

Mode Settings  "Music Unit"   (Whatever a 'Music Unit' is ??)
Frequency 22050Hz
Volume 0.0dB
Monitor.
Input Slider = Quarter way up ( Parallel Port Sampler )
I don't have a sampler on the parallel port ( ??? is that a problem) 

Device AUDIO:  is mounted....   (It's in the devs/dosdrivers drawer)
when I type "Mount AUDIO:"   it says that it is already mounted...

Any other suggestions......

>-----------------------------------------------------------
Colin Wenzel. Australia.

Email:  colstv@hotkey.net.au
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Has anyone on this list managed to get Cinema 4D V4 (the same version that
was on the CU-Amiga cover CD last month) working over an RTG Siamese screen.
I have managed to get renders etc to work but cannot move any points on
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson (nicklas97@hotmail.com) wrote:

>>Nice little program, only one problem which isn't your fault. Most of 
>>the RA files have higher compression than 28.8k nowadays. 

>This will be corrected if someone knows how to decode these higher
>compression.

Not the easiest of tasks though.

>>-RealAmiga Player V0.46 by Alcom-
>>File: BOAG.RA
>>Title: Barrel Of A Gun (Behind The Barrel Mix)$Depeche Mode (remixed by 
>TranceBack)/1997
>>·M!>j¡l^ùTHIRD FLOOR VIOLATIONS all rights reserved_Copyright: 
>Ol×y=}¥ÛJÛ×.yH$²ú£s°¤Ö-«µ$´ÞZª

>There seems to be a little bug here! where can i download this file 
>(boag.ra)??

I don't remember where I got it from, it's over a year ago I downloaded it.
But I get the same result no matter which one of the ra-files I have that's
compressed in more than 28.8k. Slight differences though. Some of them gets
the output right and others clears the shell-window and others do like the
above. 

I've got a couple smaller ones here that exhibits more or less the same symptom
as the one above. I could mail them to you so you can check for yourself. Mail
me privately if you're interested.

BTW, anyone know of a site where I could download a ra-file that's known to
be compressed with 28.8k? The ones I have here that this player can play is
all of the 14.4k variety and I'd like to hear how a 28.8k one sounds like.
14.4k ones sound awful (:

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Colin Wenzel (colstv@hotkey.net.au) wrote:

>AHI is installed, but I really have no idea what it's for anyway,
>it's preferences are set to "Paula Hi Fi, 8 Bit Stereo."

Set it to another value. That's the most cpu-demanding audiomode
AHI has to offer. Paula: Fast 8bit stereo++ would be more
appropiate.

>Mode Settings  "Music Unit"   (Whatever a 'Music Unit' is ??)

That's a low-level device AHI uses. Also a default mode and
what AUDIO: uses as it's output.

>Input Slider = Quarter way up ( Parallel Port Sampler )
>I don't have a sampler on the parallel port ( ??? is that a problem) 

No.

>Device AUDIO:  is mounted....   (It's in the devs/dosdrivers drawer)
>when I type "Mount AUDIO:"   it says that it is already mounted...

Try this:

Copy thisfile.8svx AUDIO:

Do you get any sound at all? It will sound like hell doing it that
way but you should hear something. If you don't, check that you have
ahi.device in devs: and ahi-handler in l:

---
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crackpot with an ignorant opinion! I'm a busy man! _I_ say, either
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Subject: [just-amiga] *More goodies to win!*

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

As well as all the other software you can win you can now also win

1mb Web space for a year with an address
www.aio.co.uk/BLANK/

'Blank' is replaced with anything of your choice.

This is worth £20

Total Prize bucket is now :-


Professional File System 2          (Worth 28 UKP/US$57)
Aga Experience 3 CD                 (Worth 14 UKP/US$32)
Registered copy of CheatZone V1.4.3 (Worth 5 UKP/US$12)
TechnoDataBase98 CD                 (Worth 14 UKP/US$32)
1mb Web space at www.aio.co.uk      (Worth 20 UKP/US$42)
(for a year)

Total prize worth : 81 UKP/US$175
(p&p paid by AIO)

Cheques payable to *'C.Brown'* (Cheques are UK only)

Any country money excepted to the amount of 5 UKP/US$10

Send 5 UKP/US$10 cash or cheque to :- 

Chris Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside, 
L62 9EU, ENGLAND.

Kind Regards!
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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

There have been 890 visits from 5/9/98 - 18/10/98 little over 1
month. Lets see if we can't push that to 1000 by next saturday
hey? if you havn't checked it out yet zoom to :-

*http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm*

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] *SPECIAL JA-ML ONLY OFFER*

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

                   *JUST-AMIGA MAILING LIST ONLY OFFER*

Get 5mb of web space for two years for just £ 50 UKP/US$105/
155 Dutch Guilders.

This is a limited offer for the two fastest people on the list
to email me. You can have a web address like :-

www.aio.co.uk/cool/

'Cool' can be anything of your choice. This is normally charged
at £ 120 UKP/US$245/ 365 Dutch Guilders.

*EMAIL NOW AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE TO SAVE YOUR OFFER SPACE*
(Just one email and the offer is reserved for you!)

email : *amiga@thefree.net*

Kind Regards!
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From: "Malcolm Harnden" <malky@nobleone.u-net.com>

Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:12:01 +0000

[just-amiga] Come on, support us guys and gals!

Hi Chris Seward

My modest reply to your....
---------------------------


My cheque for £10 is in the post.

> amiga@thefree.net


Today is a good day for the Amiga not to die.
(Worf DS9 - Well maybe)

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be met with *MONEY* from
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Subject: [just-amiga] ALSO NOW WIN UROPA2 FROM VULCAN.

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

I've decided to take the web space out of the winnings and replace
it with a better prize being Uropa 2 from Vulcan Software on CD,
worth 25 UKP/US$52/Dutch Guilders 80 the total prize is worth a
whopping great 86 UKP/US$180 so come on? you don't want to win
all that? you must be crazy, check it all out below :-

Professional File System 2          (Worth £28 UKP/US$57)
(With free Kang Fu Game)
Aga Experience 3 CD                 (Worth £14 UKP/US$32)
Registered copy of CheatZone V1.4.3 (Worth £5 UKP/US$12)
TechnoDataBase98 CD                 (Worth £14 UKP/US$32)
Uropa2 CD                           (Worth £25 UKP/US$52)

Total prize worth : £86 UKP/US$180
(p&p paid by AIO)

Just slightly interested? send your donation to :

Chris Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside
L62 9EU. ENGLAND.

Cheques only available in UK, payable to *'C.Brown'*

Send 5.00 UKP/US$10.00 or 17 Dutch Guilders and you will
be entered to win *ALL* those goodies. Thats one util, one
cheat guide, one hugh compilation of software CD, two 
games and a hugh techno related CD. All work on Amigas.

*Commercial Companys Note :*

If you would like to donate you can, you will be recognised
on our web page for this. Also if you have any other prizes
you can offer for this competition they are also excepted.

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disney Animation Studio

From: Dale Hemenway <dalemation@enterprise.net>

On 19-Oct-98, Chris Seward wrote:
>From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

>On 18-Oct-98, you wrote:


>> 
>> Dale Hemenway.
>>

>Don't you run an amiga company? or am i mistaken?

Er, well, I and a few others, have made films using Amigas. I think
you may remember my name from the article AF did on the
making of our film 'All Talk' for Central. I really wanted to promote
the Amiga with this film. I did a large AmigaGuide, with pics, on
the making of All Talk but don't know quite what to do with it!

Early this year I was asked to work on a  puppet animation
series at a new studio in Altrincham so have not used the Amiga
as much as I would have liked recently. However, I am desperately trying
to finish an all Amiga film I have been doing with a school. My time is limited
now but it should be completed soooooon.!!!

Regards

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

From: Jeb Baker <jeb@snet.net>

Hi Nicklas:
.
.. Just wanted to let you all know that i just released v0.46 of my 
.. RealAmiga Player. 
. 
.. And please let me know if you find any bugs/problems!
.

Got the player, couldn't get it to work on any of the files I was able to save
to disk.  (It took forever to find any that allowed me to save, most wanted to
play in real time / stream mode)  I was able to find some "answering machine
messages" that had files in both .wav and .rm but couldn't get the .rm's to
work.  (The .wav files worked fine using multiview.)

AHI works fine using the copy command, audio: is mounted and
I have version 47.3 of ixemul.library.  But after issuing the
command with the "play" option included, the program echoed it's Title,
Author, &
Copyright statement (blank for the files I was doing),then a "Playing file..."
comment; then paused and
returned the command line prompt.


The headers in the .rm files all started out with .RMF and had
"audio/x-pn-realaudio" a few bytes down when viewed in multiview using
binary.datatypes.

Any suggestions??  This would be GREAT! if it worked, especially if I could
have it run through Voyager on streaming audio.
-- 

       J  E  B


<tsb> Amiga 1200 CPU:DKB_cobra25mhz 
<tsb> 68030/68882fpu/68030mmu/1.2ghd/2+16megs
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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Jeb Baker <jeb@snet.net>
>
>Hi Nicklas:

>Got the player, couldn't get it to work on any of the files I was able 
to save
>to disk.  (It took forever to find any that allowed me to save, most 
wanted to
>play in real time / stream mode)  I was able to find some "answering 
machine
>messages" that had files in both .wav and .rm but couldn't get the 
.rm's to
>work.  (The .wav files worked fine using multiview.)
>
you can save all those files that says pnm: in the beginning and
then renaming them. like this:

original format:
pnm:testsound.com/test/sound.ra
renamed as:
<a href=http:testsound.com/test/sound.ra>sound</a>
and now you have a link that you can download!

>AHI works fine using the copy command, audio: is mounted and
>I have version 47.3 of ixemul.library.  But after issuing the
>command with the "play" option included, the program echoed it's Title,
>Author, &
>Copyright statement (blank for the files I was doing),then a "Playing 
file..."
>comment; then paused and
>returned the command line prompt.

i'm sorry this is my fault. The realmovie player isn't finished yet!
>
>The headers in the .rm files all started out with .RMF and had
>"audio/x-pn-realaudio" a few bytes down when viewed in multiview using
>binary.datatypes.
i know , i am working on this one too!

>
>Any suggestions??  This would be GREAT! if it worked, especially if I 
could
>have it run through Voyager on streaming audio.

at the moment no, but i am working on it! remember you will probably
need a 040 to do realtime decoding. I will release a new version 
today/tomorrow that use a SLOW switch, so that everyone should be
able to listen to 28.8 realAUDIO files atleast. On my 030 it decodes 
14.4 files in realtime....

see you!

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Greetings,


Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back to
amiga disks?

No problem's with .adf files i just use adf2disk but i can't find any
adz2disk type prog :(
Kind regards

Andy.
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From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>

I got a bit confused the other day when some people on a different mailing
list started discussing Doom and similar games. Thought for a moment YAM had
started getting things mixed up, but then i checked the archive site and
found the thread there too. So I wrote the following response and got an
unexpected answer... (My response first [with >>s] of course)

>>Now *that* was confusing! I'm on an Amiga mailing list as well, and they're
>>discussing games like that there too. So my first throught when I saw the
>>current end of this thread was "What, Chris and Vexx are on this list too?"
>>Then I saw the headers and wondered if either my mailer or the server had
>>got some messages seriously mixed up! Finally went to the website to check
>>the official archives, backtracked and found out how it started. <whew!>
>>
>>Stop messing with my mind will you? I've just recovered from last night's
>>furry discovery...

>Sorry to mess with your mind back there, but do you know if any of the people
>on that list are looking for fun DOOM II wads? I've been working on one
>off and on for a few months and now feel that it's about as good as it's
>going to get. Some honest criticisms from players would be greatly
>appreciated.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Well if anyone should be interested, contact M. J. Smith at 
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From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>

I tried downloading the program too and got problems similar to the ones
described by others, so I decided to wait and see what came out of it, but
it looks like everyone has gone silent again. Yes, I do have AHI (and it
works with DigiBooster at least) and I have tried changing the settings as
described. Still getting error messages when trying to play a file. Now
what?

BTW, I've also had some problems with downloading RA files from the web.
The usual procedure only gives me a small file called something.ra which
turns out to contain nothing but the URL to the file something.ram. If I
change the file name before starting to download I do get the .ram file
which is considerably longer and which RAP does recognize but still refuses
to play...

While we're on the subject of sound, turns out I have a little problem to
air anyway, it's just so old I hardly think about it any more.
One of the first things I got for my (first) Amiga was a sampler. Couldn't
get it to work, so I shelved it, figuring I had done something wrong and
busted it. More recently I got another one - and couldn't get that one to
work either! Further testing showed that neither of my two samplers works
with either of my (by now) three Amigas... Any bright ideas? [I could return
the new sampler to the dealer but they charge a pretty stiff fee for testing
devices that turn out to be okay...]

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X-System: Amiga 1200(T)/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8
X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, Domono gfx-card
X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM
X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes...
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From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>

Jeb Baker (jeb@snet.net) wrote:

>Got the player, couldn't get it to work on any of the files I was able to
>save to disk.  (It took forever to find any that allowed me to save, most
>wanted to play in real time / stream mode)  I was able to find some
>"answering machine messages" that had files in both .wav and .rm but couldn't
>get the .rm's to work.  (The .wav files worked fine using multiview.)

Rm is usually a sign of it using the new improved RealAudio technologies,
i.e. those not supported by this player yet. More often than not,
they include video as well.

>The headers in the .rm files all started out with .RMF and had
>"audio/x-pn-realaudio" a few bytes down when viewed in multiview using
>binary.datatypes.

All the ones I have start with .ra in the header.

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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>


Does anyone here get the teamamiga mailing list ???

Mine has stopped a few days ago, I went to look for it at:

http://www.thule.no

The link is not there ???

Anyone know whats happened to it ??


>-------------------------------------
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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 20-Oct-98, Ragnar Fyri wrote:
>From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
-snip-
>One of the first things I got for my (first) Amiga was a sampler. Couldn't
>get it to work, so I shelved it, figuring I had done something wrong and
>busted it. More recently I got another one - and couldn't get that one to
>work either! Further testing showed that neither of my two samplers works
>with either of my (by now) three Amigas... Any bright ideas? [I could return
>the new sampler to the dealer but they charge a pretty stiff fee for testing
>devices that turn out to be okay...]
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What type of sampler & what software are you using to talk to it ???


>-------------------------------------
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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

>I tried downloading the program too and got problems similar to the 
ones
>described by others, so I decided to wait and see what came out of it, 
but
>it looks like everyone has gone silent again. Yes, I do have AHI (and 
it
>works with DigiBooster at least) and I have tried changing the settings 
as
>described. Still getting error messages when trying to play a file. Now
>what?
Could you please send me a copy of the file??? maybe then we can find 
what's wrong.... --> nicklas97@hotmail.com
 

>
>BTW, I've also had some problems with downloading RA files from the 
web.
>The usual procedure only gives me a small file called something.ra 
which
>turns out to contain nothing but the URL to the file something.ram. If 
I
>change the file name before starting to download I do get the .ram file
>which is considerably longer and which RAP does recognize but still 
refuses
>to play...

hmmm...I already have answeared this once today...but here goes...
rename the file as the following:

original name:
pnm:someone.com/some/one/something.ra
rename it to:

<a href=http:someone.com/some/one/something.ra>something</a>

and include it in a http page....And voila you got a link you can
save....

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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

>I tried downloading the program too and got problems similar to the 
ones
>described by others, so I decided to wait and see what came out of it, 
but
>it looks like everyone has gone silent again. Yes, I do have AHI (and 
it
>works with DigiBooster at least) and I have tried changing the settings 
as
>described. Still getting error messages when trying to play a file. Now
>what?
Could you please send me a copy of the file??? maybe then we can find 
what's wrong.... --> nicklas97@hotmail.com
 

>
>BTW, I've also had some problems with downloading RA files from the 
web.
>The usual procedure only gives me a small file called something.ra 
which
>turns out to contain nothing but the URL to the file something.ram. If 
I
>change the file name before starting to download I do get the .ram file
>which is considerably longer and which RAP does recognize but still 
refuses
>to play...

hmmm...I already have answeared this once today...but here goes...
rename the file as the following:

original name:
pnm:someone.com/some/one/something.ra
rename it to:

<a href=http:someone.com/some/one/something.ra>something</a>

and include it in a http page....And voila you got a link you can
save....

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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.46 RELEASED!

>I tried downloading the program too and got problems similar to the 
ones
>described by others, so I decided to wait and see what came out of it, 
but
>it looks like everyone has gone silent again. Yes, I do have AHI (and 
it
>works with DigiBooster at least) and I have tried changing the settings 
as
>described. Still getting error messages when trying to play a file. Now
>what?
Could you please send me a copy of the file??? maybe then we can find 
what's wrong.... --> nicklas97@hotmail.com
 

>
>BTW, I've also had some problems with downloading RA files from the 
web.
>The usual procedure only gives me a small file called something.ra 
which
>turns out to contain nothing but the URL to the file something.ram. If 
I
>change the file name before starting to download I do get the .ram file
>which is considerably longer and which RAP does recognize but still 
refuses
>to play...

hmmm...I already have answeared this once today...but here goes...
rename the file as the following:

original name:
pnm:someone.com/some/one/something.ra
rename it to:

<a href=http:someone.com/some/one/something.ra>something</a>

and include it in a http page....And voila you got a link you can
save....

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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

I know I created a directory at my web page ages ago, but I've had a HD crash 
long since I 1st set up my web page.

And now I can't recall which program I used to create the directory.

I have amiftp on the desktop, and use it regularly to upload to my site, but 
theres no access that I can see to the rexx port. 

By that I mean in the amiftp docs it does say you can use the 
FTPCOMMAND COMMAND amiftp
via the rexx port amiftp to send commands. But I don't show any option on the 
pulldowns, configs or anywhere on how to send the command to the port.

Or is there a different program I can use to do this with ? GEEZ 1 command 
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From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>

Can't you just connect to the site and click on the rightmost Makedir gadget
in AmFTP?

Linus

On 20-Oct-98, Ken wrote:
>From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>I know I created a directory at my web page ages ago, but I've had a HD crash

>long since I 1st set up my web page.

>And now I can't recall which program I used to create the directory.

>I have amiftp on the desktop, and use it regularly to upload to my site, but 
>theres no access that I can see to the rexx port. 

>By that I mean in the amiftp docs it does say you can use the 
>FTPCOMMAND COMMAND amiftp
>via the rexx port amiftp to send commands. But I don't show any option on the

>pulldowns, configs or anywhere on how to send the command to the port.

>Or is there a different program I can use to do this with ? GEEZ 1 command 
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>Can't you just connect to the site and click on the rightmost Makedir gadget
>in AmFTP?

See thats the problem I have amiftp in use. But luckily you said amftp. 
Picked that up from aminet. Thats a real good program. But thing that 
confuses me, I've never used (that I can recall) amftp before. But I have a 
directory at my web site that I created. So there must be another program, 
maybe an arexx script or something that accesses amiftp's rexx port ?

Oh well thanks the nudge at least I found a program that could make my 
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Hello Colin

On 20-Oct-98 Colin Wenzel wrote:

> From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>
> 
> 
> Does anyone here get the teamamiga mailing list ???
> 
> Mine has stopped a few days ago, I went to look for it at:

I also wondered about that, although it was longer ago
for me that the messages from TA suddenly stopped coming.
But the TA-list was too chatty anyway so I didn't care and
joined this list instead :)

> http://www.thule.no
> 
> The link is not there ???
> 
> Anyone know whats happened to it ??
> 
> 
>> -------------------------------------
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Hello Andrew

On 20-Oct-98 Andrew Phillips wrote:

> From: Andrew Phillips <andy@sectorx.u-net.com>
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back to
> amiga disks?

Just use TransADF. You can get it from Aminet.
The author also has an homepage from which you can download the
newest version of TransADF:  http://www.lis.net.au/~kjots

ADZ files are ADF files compressed with ZLIB.
TransADF supports normal ADF files and ones compressed
with ZLib and GZip.
 
> No problem's with .adf files i just use adf2disk but i can't find any
> adz2disk type prog :(
> Kind regards
> 
> Andy.
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From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham)

Hi Colin

> From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>
>
>
> Does anyone here get the teamamiga mailing list ???
>
> Mine has stopped a few days ago, I went to look for it at:
>
> http://www.thule.no
>
> The link is not there ???
>
> Anyone know whats happened to it ??
>
The postmaster there moved a couple of thousand km away, and then there
was a software problem which he couldn't fix remotely. It won't be back
up until he has moved the machine to be nearer to where he now lives.

It is not just the teamamiga list that is affected, but also all the
ICOA lists and website too :(

  Tim

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On 21-Oct-98, Tim Corringham wrote:
>From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham)

>Hi Colin
>The postmaster there moved a couple of thousand km away, and then there
>was a software problem which he couldn't fix remotely. It won't be back
>up until he has moved the machine to be nearer to where he now lives.

>It is not just the teamamiga list that is affected, but also all the
>ICOA lists and website too :(
>  Tim
--------------------------------------

Thanks Tim,  I was starting to worry about it,  could you tell me
where was the site hosted before & where is it moving to...  ??

I never could figure out where the  www.thule.no   was at ??

I'll guess & say   NOrway  ???

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Hi Colin

> >The postmaster there moved a couple of thousand km away, and then there
> >was a software problem which he couldn't fix remotely. It won't be back
> >up until he has moved the machine to be nearer to where he now lives.
>
> >It is not just the teamamiga list that is affected, but also all the
> >ICOA lists and website too :(
> >  Tim
> --------------------------------------
>
> Thanks Tim,  I was starting to worry about it,  could you tell me
> where was the site hosted before & where is it moving to...  ??

Not a clue I'm afraid :-/
>
> I never could figure out where the  www.thule.no   was at ??
>
> I'll guess & say   NOrway  ???

Yes, .no is Norway, but just where in Norway it is/was based I don't know.

  Tim

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From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>

 Thought I'd just send this here as well, there must be some 
programmers (or anybody that knows the answer) on the list.

 Does anybody know the format of the .otag files for non-bitmapped 
fonts (its different from the .font structure). I know they contain 
the name of the font and the location of the original outline file, 
but I want to know the structure, so I don't go reading from anywhere.

 And are all .otag files the same for different font types, i.e. 
truetype, postscript and compugraphic. They look the same, but 
nothings ever that easy.


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Subject: [just-amiga] RealAmiga Player v0.48 released...

From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>

Hi everyone!

I have updated the player a little bit now...
Hopefully this will work for everyone now!
As always it is at: www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ellington/783/

have fun!

// Alcom //

history:
0.46 first internet release.
0.47 small bugfixes. Added a SLOW switch.
0.48 Fixed the problem with spaces in the filenames. (my mistake!)



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From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>

'Twas the night before 21-Oct-98, and all through the net,
 not a creature was stirring, except for Nicklas, who whispered ominously:

>From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>

>Hi everyone!

>I have updated the player a little bit now...
>Hopefully this will work for everyone now!

Well at least it gives a more informative error message when trying to play
the file I'm using for experimenting. It says this compression (dnet it
seems) is not supported yet. Guess I'll have to find another one (for now)
then... Or is dnet support next on the to-do list? <g>

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'Twas the night before 21-Oct-98, and all through the net,
 not a creature was stirring, except for Tim, who whispered ominously:

>> I never could figure out where the  www.thule.no   was at ??
>>
>> I'll guess & say   NOrway  ???

>Yes, .no is Norway, but just where in Norway it is/was based I don't know.

I did a bit of searching and found the email address of someone who's got a
site there. Sent him a note and just got the answer. The server is on the
move to Trondheim. Didn't say anything about where is used to be though...
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Hello !

David McMinn wrote:
> Does anybody know the format of the .otag files for non-bitmapped
> fonts (its different from the .font structure). I know they contain
> the name of the font and the location of the original outline file,
> but I want to know the structure, so I don't go reading from anywhere.

A good place to look for info is the Bullet.library tuturial on the
Developer Disks
(or the CD). I am currently 600km away from my Amiga ( stupid NT machine who

tries to be clever in front me...) so that's all I know for now.

    Elmar Plischke




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Hi Elmar,

> A good place to look for info is the Bullet.library tuturial on the
> Developer Disks
> (or the CD). I am currently 600km away from my Amiga ( stupid NT machine
> who
> 
> tries to be clever in front me...) so that's all I know for now.

 Doh, first place I should ahve checked, thanks (I take it thats the 
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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Ok, i've found out that in total it will cost me £243 UKP to get the
web site, thanks to *Malcolm* *Harnden* who sent me the first £10 UKP,
if just 23 more of you sent £10 UKP we could get the web page and
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Cheques from UK only excepted, make payable to *'C.Brown'* 

If you live outside the UK and don't want the hastle in chaging
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From: Richard Griffith <ragriffi@sprynet.com>

On 21-Oct-98, David McMinn wrote:
> Does anybody know the format of the .otag files for non-bitmapped 
> fonts (its different from the .font structure). I know they contain 
> the name of the font and the location of the original outline file, 
> but I want to know the structure, so I don't go reading from anywhere.
> 
> And are all .otag files the same for different font types, i.e. 
> truetype, postscript and compugraphic. They look the same, but 
> nothings ever that easy.

As someone else already suggested, the Amiga Developer CD is a
good place to start. Specifically, the Amiga Mail Vol 2 article
on V-23 explains them well. In a nutshell, otag files are just a
tag list passed to an outline engine to open a font. Other uses
for the data include font mapping, and several items serve for
the most part just to force the outlines into a form compatible
with the traditional bitmap font.

As for specifics, the file alternates tag, tag value. Any tag
value that is a pointer refers to the actual data located at the
tail end of the file. Other than the initial tag, there is no
required order. Many of the tags are generic, applying to all
outline engines, while some are private to a specific engine.
For example the file name of the outline font file is a private
spec tag, so its associated tag could vary from one engine to
another, while the tag naming the engine required to use the
font is common to all, only the location might change.

Hope this helps, and if you have any specific questions after
checking the docs, just ask. If you don't mind me asking, what
do you have in mind that prompts this question?

Oh, and let me take this opportunity to make sure everyone knows
about ttf.library. You can use truetype fonts on your Amiga!
Look for util/libs/ttflib.lha on Aminet, or visit my page at:

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/ragriffi/

Later,
-Richard



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> > 
> > Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back to
> > amiga disks?
> 

Hmm, Lazarus?  Thats erm... piracy methinks :/

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tim@ramjam.u-net.com scribed to us about [just-amiga] Re: Team Amiga
List in Just_Amiga

>From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham)

>Hi Colin

>> >The postmaster there moved a couple of thousand km away, and then
>> >there was a software problem which he couldn't fix remotely. It
>> >won't be back up until he has moved the machine to be nearer to
>> >where he now lives.
>>
>> >It is not just the teamamiga list that is affected, but also all
>> >the ICOA lists and website too :(
>> >  Tim
>> --------------------------------------
>>
>> Thanks Tim,  I was starting to worry about it,  could you tell me
>> where was the site hosted before & where is it moving to...  ??

>Not a clue I'm afraid :-/
>>
>> I never could figure out where the  www.thule.no   was at ??
>>
>> I'll guess & say   NOrway  ???

>Yes, .no is Norway, but just where in Norway it is/was based I don't
>know.

Petter recently moved to Oslo. I do not remember his home town or
where he just moved from though. Sorry, I know but at 46 the memory
isn't what it used to be.  :)


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Scott D Allan wrote:
> 
> From: "Scott D Allan" <scott@crewerw.demon.co.uk>
> 
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back to
> > > amiga disks?
> >
> 
> Hmm, Lazarus?  Thats erm... piracy methinks :/


"OOH dear...piracy!" <said carcastically> When the A500 was the thing to
have, EVERY user had pirated software! Why pay money to overpaid ppl
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From: "David McMinn" <D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk>

On 21 Oct 98, at 18:55, Richard Griffith floundered in a pit of silicon hell:

> Hope this helps, and if you have any specific questions after
> checking the docs, just ask. If you don't mind me asking, what
> do you have in mind that prompts this question?

 I'm trying to recode my Viewfonts 2 program <cue biiig shameless 
plug> available in Aminet/text/font (its really great, honest) to be 
a bit nore freindly to your ttflib and the postscript font lib (can't 
rememeber its name). Currently it assumes that anything with a .otag 
file has its correesponding outline in _bullet_outlines subdir, which 
promptly causes it to crash and burn with truetype and postscript 
fonts, and probably any other font that doesn't have its stuff in 
_bullet_outlines. Theres other reasons for recoding as well, because 
it doesn't work properly with colorfonts and crashes with postscript 
ones.
 
> Oh, and let me take this opportunity to make sure everyone knows
> about ttf.library. You can use truetype fonts on your Amiga!
> Look for util/libs/ttflib.lha on Aminet, or visit my page at:

 And I'll take this opportunity to advertise it again.


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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.48 released...
>
>
>Well at least it gives a more informative error message when trying to 
play
>the file I'm using for experimenting. It says this compression (dnet it
>seems) is not supported yet. Guess I'll have to find another one (for 
now)
>then... Or is dnet support next on the to-do list? <g>
>
it is on the todo-list, but i am very busy at work for the moment so it 
may take a while...if anyone has any info about the dnet-compression - 
PLEASE MAIL ME!!

// Alcom //



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From: Raynald Le Moing <ucl@club-internet.fr>

Hello hotcakes@abacus.net.au

Le 24-Oct-98, hotcakes@abacus.net.au hotcakes@abacus.net.au a écrit:

>h From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
>h
>h>>>> Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back
>h>>>> amiga disks?
>h>>
>h>> Hmm, Lazarus?  Thats erm... piracy methinks :/
>h
>h> "OOH dear...piracy!" <said carcastically> When the A500 was the thing to
>h> have, EVERY user had pirated software! Why pay money to overpaid ppl
>h> when u can get it for free!?

he he, memory, memory, the good old time ;)
>h
>h ...  I wasn't going to reply to this, but seeing's as no one else has
>h yet, I think this guy needs to be set straight =]
>h
>h Reply :
>h
>h YOU FOOL!
cutting details here ;)

Maybe you have not payed enough attention to the meaning of the message.
Provocation ? Yes.
Sarcasmes ? Sure
But is it so far from the truth ?

And, after all, what is exactly a computer without piratry ?
May be a dead computer.

I don't want to say that I'm OK with piratry but ...
"Remember when you was young ..." (Pink Floyd - Shine on your Crazy Diamond
- part One)
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From: Stuart Luscombe <morden@mcmail.com>

hotcakes@abacus.net.au wrote:
> 
> From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
> 
> JU>> > > Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back
> JU>> > > amiga disks?
> JU>>
> JU>> Hmm, Lazarus?  Thats erm... piracy methinks :/
> 
> JU>"OOH dear...piracy!" <said carcastically> When the A500 was the thing to
> JU>have, EVERY user had pirated software! Why pay money to overpaid ppl
> JU>when u can get it for free!?
> 
> ...  I wasn't going to reply to this, but seeing's as no one else has
> yet, I think this guy needs to be set straight =]
> 
> Reply :
> 
> YOU FOOL!
> 
> It's an attitude like that that KILLED the Amiga's commercial release
> scene in the first place!
> 
> Besides, who was `overpaid'?
> 
> When you take out production costs, retail hikes and tax out of the
> price of -any- game, you'll realise that the people who actually
> -deserve- the money, who have put all their effort into it for the past,
> well, some games take up to 6+ years, I think you'll find they get
> extremely little out of it.
> 
> If you need someone to blame for the price of games, blame the
> retailers.  If you want to save your money, go to the wholesalers the
> reatilers bought it from in the first place.  At least then 90% of your
> money spent will go towards the rigth people ;]

You are right there, in that the retailers charge too much, but in the
days when I originally had my A500, games were like £40 and on a £5
a week pocket money, they cost too much. Games still cost too much
today. And you're right, the developers don't make much money, it's
the publishers that nick it all. :(

-
Stuart


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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

I just ran across a page that seems to be designed with(out) amiga in mind. As

I've gone and firedt same program several times on my own a3k just to see 
what it was capable of, the fact that the amiga client is (PPC also) is 
inaccessible, makes me wownder if the people are really interested in 
'COMPUTER POWER' or just making their own machines look good ?

Anyways I tried over a half hour to get any one of the amiga client programs 
available myself. All came back fith failed to connect...

Here's the page if anyone is interested. There's $10,000.00US in it.
http://distributed.net/
distributed.net - Node Zero 

Way I understand this (this seems to be some sort of ongoing contest). The 
object is similar to letting your computer define PI to the last digit. 
Someone has hidden a text file somewhere on this computers drive or memory. 
It's encrypted. 1st you run the encryption algorithm starting at block 
(whatever block they've assigned you) and run thru all blocks (they say avg 28

blocks per half hour) which means the even my a3k amiga should be able to cut 
that down to 28 blocks every 5 minutes. 1st descrambling the stuff, then 
Looking for readable text in whats been unscrambled.

Maybe someone else knows a bit more about this. And maybe we should get 
gateway to rattle their cage and really show the rest what the amiga can do ?

I can see it now 1 25mhz a3k amiga outruns Pentiums finest by double clutching

with the same program distributing the load vs tying up all the processor on 
one task...

Maybe even ethernet 2 or more amigas together and find the answer in one day 
vs an entire year..



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From: Kenneth Craig <kwdjc@wf.net>

Hello Ken
    Try this link instead:
_#http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5/#_

It has all the Amiga related stuff for the RC5 contest. Please be sure to join
the 
Amiga team and have it count for us. 
On 23-Oct-98, Ken wrote:
> From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
> 
> I just ran across a page that seems to be designed with(out) amiga in mind.
As
> 
> I've gone and firedt same program several times on my own a3k just to see 
> what it was capable of, the fact that the amiga client is (PPC also) is 
> inaccessible, makes me wownder if the people are really interested in 
> 'COMPUTER POWER' or just making their own machines look good ?
> 
> Anyways I tried over a half hour to get any one of the amiga client programs

> available myself. All came back fith failed to connect...
> 
> Here's the page if anyone is interested. There's $10,000.00US in it.
> http://distributed.net/
> distributed.net - Node Zero 
> 
> Way I understand this (this seems to be some sort of ongoing contest). The 
> object is similar to letting your computer define PI to the last digit. 
> Someone has hidden a text file somewhere on this computers drive or memory. 
> It's encrypted. 1st you run the encryption algorithm starting at block 
> (whatever block they've assigned you) and run thru all blocks (they say avg
28
> 
> blocks per half hour) which means the even my a3k amiga should be able to
cut 
> that down to 28 blocks every 5 minutes. 1st descrambling the stuff, then 
> Looking for readable text in whats been unscrambled.
> 
> Maybe someone else knows a bit more about this. And maybe we should get 
> gateway to rattle their cage and really show the rest what the amiga can do
?
> 
> I can see it now 1 25mhz a3k amiga outruns Pentiums finest by double
clutching
> 
> with the same program distributing the load vs tying up all the processor on

> one task...
> 
> Maybe even ethernet 2 or more amigas together and find the answer in one day

> vs an entire year..

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JU>> > > Does anyone know of a program to convert lazurus .adz game files back
JU>> > > amiga disks?
JU>>
JU>> Hmm, Lazarus?  Thats erm... piracy methinks :/

JU>"OOH dear...piracy!" <said carcastically> When the A500 was the thing to
JU>have, EVERY user had pirated software! Why pay money to overpaid ppl
JU>when u can get it for free!?

...  I wasn't going to reply to this, but seeing's as no one else has
yet, I think this guy needs to be set straight =]

Reply :

YOU FOOL!

It's an attitude like that that KILLED the Amiga's commercial release
scene in the first place!

Besides, who was `overpaid'?

When you take out production costs, retail hikes and tax out of the
price of -any- game, you'll realise that the people who actually
-deserve- the money, who have put all their effort into it for the past,
well, some games take up to 6+ years, I think you'll find they get
extremely little out of it.

If you need someone to blame for the price of games, blame the
retailers.  If you want to save your money, go to the wholesalers the
reatilers bought it from in the first place.  At least then 90% of your
money spent will go towards the rigth people ;]

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>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.48 released..
>
>From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
>
>OK, I grabbed this program, but I also have had no luck getting it to
>work :(
Could you please give me some more info on this.

>
>My first question is : Does it work on an 020 machine?  ;]
>
yes! or atleast it should, but it will be slooow....

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[just-amiga] make money with/for amiga/you gets dragged on once more......

are you talking about RC5 ???
I think you are.

last I heard, the amiga team were in 6th place out of about 2000. goto
the page with the top 10 teams and click the link to the amiga team.
they have a cool mui gui for it called myzar which works for me :)
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>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Memory check in command files.
>
>
>
>   I need it because sometimes I have to disable my accelerator to run
>some programs, and that means no mem so normal startup crashes.
>
>
>   I've managed to get it working by copying a 2.5meg file (?!) to ram
>and checking if its there. If it isn't (not enough mem) then it stops
>the startup-sequence. It  deletes it and carries on if it is there. 
>
are you using an a1200/a4000 ???? then you can just hold down both 
mousebuttons on startup and select "boot without startup". then just
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

   I'm just wondering if anyone know any command(s) that work in the
startup-sequence that checks how much memory I have and if its below a
certain point executes a script eg.


If fastavailble < 0
   
   execute smallstarup
   endcli

endif

propper starup blahblahblah.


  I've tried 


avail fast >ram:f

if ram:f < 0 

   blahblah

end if


   but that worked about as well as a PC.




   I need it because sometimes I have to disable my accelerator to run
some programs, and that means no mem so normal startup crashes.


   I've managed to get it working by copying a 2.5meg file (?!) to ram
and checking if its there. If it isn't (not enough mem) then it stops
the startup-sequence. It  deletes it and carries on if it is there. 

   Obviouly this method's crap, but I can't find another way to do it.


   Anyone got any ideas ?

See ya.
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Subject: [just-amiga] !AIO Issue 17 (Oct'98) OUT NOW!

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OK, I grabbed this program, but I also have had no luck getting it to
work :(

My first question is : Does it work on an 020 machine?  ;]

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>    Try this link instead:
>_#http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5/#_

>It has all the Amiga related stuff for the RC5 contest. Please be sure to
join
>the Amiga team and have it count for us. 

>> I just ran across a page that seems to be designed with(out) amiga in mind.

I finally found a http:page with the clients for amiga, haven't run through 
the stuff yet, but no reason I can't let the amiga work while I'm sleeping. I 
can always use $10k. BTW. seems you know more about it than I do why didn't 
you explain it here ?

Oh I found that page also..


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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>> 
>>   I need it because sometimes I have to disable my accelerator to run
>> some programs, and that means no mem so normal startup crashes.
>> 
>> 
>>   I've managed to get it working by copying a 2.5meg file (?!) to ram
>> and checking if its there. If it isn't (not enough mem) then it stops
>> the startup-sequence. It  deletes it and carries on if it is there. 
>> 
> are you using an a1200/a4000 ???? then you can just hold down both 
> mousebuttons on startup and select "boot without startup". then just
> execute your smallscript.

   Well, thats what I /used /to do, but I got fed up with it. There must
be some way to automate it.

See ya.
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Hello Ken

On 24-Oct-98, Ken wrote:
> From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
> 
>>    Try this link instead:
>> _#http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5/#_
> 
>> It has all the Amiga related stuff for the RC5 contest. Please be sure
to
> join
>> the Amiga team and have it count for us. 
> 
>>. BTW. seems you know more about it than I do why
> didn't you explain it here ?

Anyone that might be interested in the RC5 competition to help to show that
the Amiga is still a viable platform should go to the link above and
everything is fully explained there. That is why I did not completely
explain it here. The Amiga team is now in sixth place and could use a boost
from more participants. There is a very easy to use Gui for the Amiga
client called Myzar that you need to get to make it as painless as
possible. Hope to see all dedicated Amigans participating in the contest!
;-)

Jump on the bandwagon! Stop the Madness! Get an Amiga and upgrade!

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From: John Hancock <john@flump.u-net.com>

Hello Andrew

On 24-Oct-98, you wrote:

> From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
> 
> Hi Everybody,
> 
>   I'm just wondering if anyone know any command(s) that work in the
> startup-sequence that checks how much memory I have and if its below a
> certain point executes a script eg.

Well this  should work but it only checks whether there is any fastmem or
not.

Make sure you have an assign to env: beforehand and....

avail fast >env:fastmem
if $fastmem eq 0
execute s:smallstartup-sequence   
endif

Hope it works - it did here :)
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Hi Kenneth

On 24-Oct-98, Kenneth Craig wrote:

> Anyone that might be interested in the RC5 competition to help to show
that
> the Amiga is still a viable platform should go to the link above and
> everything is fully explained there. 

Ok so I'll re-enter the fray :)...I have a PC here that could be put 
to good use so .... I need to get the RC5 client for it. I used to have 
a URL but can't find it now so can anyone point me in the right 
direction please. Of course all of the keys it works on will be credited 
to the Amiga effort  :)

(In fact if I put my mind to it I may be able to employ more than one
PC after all I support 250 @ work :)

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>Anyone that might be interested in the RC5 competition to help to show that
>the Amiga is still a viable platform should go to the link above and
>everything is fully explained there. That is why I did not completely

Thats why I asked you to describe it. Best I could get to make a sensible 
explanation of whats actually happening there is they have several hundred 
teams of computers attempting to do the impossible faster than the next guy. 
Best I could ascribe to it was defining every integer of PI to the last one. 
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Hi Everybody,

> avail fast >env:fastmem
> if $fastmem eq 0
> execute s:smallstartup-sequence   
> endif

> Hope it works - it did here :)

Thanks, it worked fine.

See ya.
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On 24-Oct-98, Andrew Crowe wrote:
>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

>   Well, thats what I /used /to do, but I got fed up with it. There must
>be some way to automate it.

I would write a small command to do it (ask someone else to write it if you
can't code), which you would then combine with an "if warn" in the script.

By the way:

>  - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- -
>640k is all the memory anyone will ever need.
>-- Bill Gates

That's NOT what he said.. =) he said "640K ought to be enough for anybody",
as he wasn't talking about "all the memory you would ever need". It's more
like the 2M chip ram limitation of our Amigas. Not that I'm keen on defending
old Billy, but I think quotes sort of lose their meaning when they aren't
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From: Kenneth Craig <kwdjc@wf.net>

Hello Paul

On 24-Oct-98, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> From: Paul Ferguson <baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com>
> 
> Hi Kenneth
> 
> On 24-Oct-98, Kenneth Craig wrote:
> 
>> Anyone that might be interested in the RC5 competition to help to show
> that
>> the Amiga is still a viable platform should go to the link above and
>> everything is fully explained there. 
> 
> Ok so I'll re-enter the fray :)...I have a PC here that could be put 
> to good use so .... I need to get the RC5 client for it. I used to have 
> a URL but can't find it now so can anyone point me in the right 
> direction please. Of course all of the keys it works on will be credited 
> to the Amiga effort  :)

_#http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5#_

Look under downloads in left frame.


> (In fact if I put my mind to it I may be able to employ more than one
> PC after all I support 250 @ work :)
> 
Be sure to obtain permission to use them! Everything that you can do would
be great.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> I would write a small command to do it (ask someone else to write it
if you
> can't code), which you would then combine with an "if warn" in the
script.

Don't worry, someone else has shown me a got a way ;)

> By the way:

>>  - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- -
>> 640k is all the memory anyone will ever need.
>> -- Bill Gates

> That's NOT what he said.. =) he said "640K ought to be enough for
anybody",
> as he wasn't talking about "all the memory you would ever need". It's
more
> like the 2M chip ram limitation of our Amigas. Not that I'm keen on
defending
> old Billy, but I think quotes sort of lose their meaning when they
aren't
> exact...

   Its just a tag line. Anyway I got it from that anti-PC PC tagline
generator so its a second hand quote.

See ya.
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From: Jeb Baker <jeb@snet.net>

Hi Nicklas:
 
.. I have updated the player a little bit now...
.. Hopefully this will work for everyone now!


YES! Got it to work, using the slow switch.  Painfully slow!  BUT IT WORKS! 

Now, how about a switch that will convert the file to an IFF or something the
Amiga can readily handle??

I grabbed the rap_test.lp file generated by the slow switch in RAM: the second
time I ran the program.  What format is that??

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From: Paul Ferguson <baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com>

Hi Kenneth

> Look under downloads in left frame.

Thanks...I had a quick look last night but trying to balance 3 IRC sessions
as well I must have missed it !

>> (In fact if I put my mind to it I may be able to employ more than one
>> PC after all I support 250 @ work :)

> Be sure to obtain permission to use them! Everything that you can do
would
> be great.

As I'm going to be the only IT guy on site after the end of next week
 I think I'll just ask myself ;)

But seriously, I'm sure there will be a couple of machines I can set up in a

corner somewhere to crunch some keys for me :)

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Hello, Everyone..

I've only recived a few bug-reports since I released V3.02 of the AlienBreed
3D-II LevelED 3 months ago. So either there's not many bugs left, or noone
uses the program anymore. Anyway I've decided to release a version that 
should fix the few bugs that's been reported. As it seems like the interest
for the editor is dropping I've decided to close the project for now, but
if I might reopen it later on if the interest is present..

As usualy the editor can be downloaded from my homepages, and it should
be availeble on the AmiNET in the near future (circle time)...


Anyway the new version handles the folowing topics:

 NEWS in V3.03 (Released: 25-10-1998)
  ! RELEASE NOTES !
    - More bug-fixes..
    - It appears that the interest for the editor is dropping so  this  might
      end up as the last version :-(..
  * FIXED *
    - Crash in 'Set brightness'..
    - 'Add objects' would crash when entering values directly..
    - 'Define Objects frames' had some old left-overs included..
    - 'Define Bullets' also had some old left-overs there..
  * INTERNAL *
    - Now compiled with amos.library V2.21
 
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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.48 released..
>
>From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au
>
>
>OK.  I have the following setup :
>
>A1200, 68020/28mhz, 4 meg fast.
>
>I am using ixemul.library v47.2 and AHI v4.
>
>I downloaded the 4.ra that was given as the demonstration in the 
pnm.lha
>archive.
>
>If I type rap 4.ra, the program displays the usual copyright infos and
>the length of the file, and then quits back to CLI and leaves it at
>that.
this is the normal behavior. You need to specify the PLAY or SLOW switch 
to hear it...

>
>If I run it with the SLOW switch, it gets as far as saying "Playing the
>file from ram..." and crashes straight away.
>
>I also tried 'radecode2 4.ra' but that just says it's an Unrecognised
>File =]

Try radecode2 <4.ra >ram:test
and then use play16 bits=16 freq=8000 ram:test

>
>The program doesn't bring up any error messages anywhere, so I'm afraid
>I can't be any more helpful than that right now =[
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From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" <nicklas97@hotmail.com>



>From: Jeb Baker <jeb@snet.net>
>
>Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.48 released...
>

>
>Now, how about a switch that will convert the file to an IFF or 
something the
>Amiga can readily handle??

The radecode(s) program converts it to a raw file. you can play it like 
this:
play16 bits=16 freq=8000 <name of file>

>
>I grabbed the rap_test.lp file generated by the slow switch in RAM: the 
second
>time I ran the program.
you are quite fast ;) The reason that the rap_test.lp is not left in 
memory is that it takes up too much space....usualy 8-10 times the size 
of the realaudio file...
but you can just run the radecode program to get it! (ie radecode2 
<myfile.ra >ram:myfile.raw - radecode myfile.ra >ram:myfile.raw)

>What format is that??

see above!

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From: Srdan Kvrgic <skvr@swipnet.se>

Hello Andrew

On 24-Okt-98, you wrote:

> From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

> Hi Everybody,

>   I'm just wondering if anyone know any command(s) that work in the
> startup-sequence that checks how much memory I have and if its below a
> certain point executes a script eg.

[snipped code]

You were on the right track mate. Only one little problem. Y'see AmigaDOS
doesn't use logical (<, >, =) letter when it compares, but plain ASCII code.
So the right way to do it would be:

set two 2000000          ;Min Memory stored into $two
set one `avail fast`     ;Checks how much fast and stores it into $one

if $one GT $two          ; if string $one is Greater Than string $two then
    echo Coolness        ; Execute something cool
endif                    ; And give me a job well done, clap =)

And just as you though "Success" it slams you in your face! "If" can only
(to my knowledge) handle 16 bit strings which means your values can't be
greater than 65536 if you want a correct comparison. This can mean only one
thing. Find you shot-gun and go Aminet hunting! =)

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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] AlienBreed3D editor V3.03 gets dragged on once more......

> From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
> 
> Hello, Everyone..
> 
> I've only recived a few bug-reports since I released V3.02 of the AlienBreed
> 3D-II LevelED 3 months ago. So either there's not many bugs left, or noone
> uses the program anymore. Anyway I've decided to release a version that 
> should fix the few bugs that's been reported. As it seems like the interest
> for the editor is dropping I've decided to close the project for now, but
> if I might reopen it later on if the interest is present..
> 
> As usualy the editor can be downloaded from my homepages, and it should
> be availeble on the AmiNET in the near future (circle time)...

Well it would have helped if you had advertised it!, I sure as hell
didn't know abou it

How is it better than the supllied editor?

why did you have to use amos?

will it work on 32k screens?
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RealAmiga Player v0.48 released..

From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 25-Oct-98, Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson wrote:
-snip-
>..... You need to specify the PLAY or SLOW switch to hear it...


What else are you going to do with it ???  

  PLAY should be set as default.....
  


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Subject: [just-amiga] Artwork Page Updated.

From: "William F. Maddock" <wmaddock@icon-stl.net>

Hi, Folks! :)

I've just updated my Artwork Page on the WWW. It includes some images
created in PageStream3 Amiga. Most were created with no commercial
software. All were created on Amigas.

Please check it out and send me comments. If they would be inappropriate
to the list you're reading this on, send them in private email.

Thank you for your time. :)

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AlienBreed3D editor V3.03

From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>

Hello Matthew

On 25-Okt-98, Matthew O'Neill smashed the keyboard with:
> Well it would have helped if you had advertised it!, I sure as hell
> didn't know abou it

I think I've advertised it the relevant places, this list didn't
exist at the time, and it was mentioned at the unofficial support-
sites on the web...

 
> How is it better than the supllied editor?

Well it combines the original editor with the gamelinker program and
all the converters. Besides there are a bunch of new converters included
to get graphics and sounds back from the special format. It runs 100%
on intuition-screens and has full locale support....
(And ofcourse loads of new error-handlers and all the worst bugs
and strange crashes removed ;-)

 
> why did you have to use amos?
> 

Becourse it's the best ;-))..
(Well, it's not the plain AMOS but a version with loads of special
things included like the fast AMCAF and Turbo extensions and the
powerfull intuition support from OS DevKit....)

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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>>My first question is : Does it work on an 020 machine?  ;]
JU>>
JU>yes! or atleast it should, but it will be slooow....

Cool!  OK I wasn't gunna ramble on about my setup in case it was only
030 only and I made myself look like a fool by expecting it to work,
but here goes =]

OK.  I have the following setup :

A1200, 68020/28mhz, 4 meg fast.

I am using ixemul.library v47.2 and AHI v4.

I downloaded the 4.ra that was given as the demonstration in the pnm.lha
archive.

If I type rap 4.ra, the program displays the usual copyright infos and
the length of the file, and then quits back to CLI and leaves it at
that.

If I run it with the SLOW switch, it gets as far as saying "Playing the
file from ram..." and crashes straight away.

I also tried 'radecode2 4.ra' but that just says it's an Unrecognised
File =]

The program doesn't bring up any error messages anywhere, so I'm afraid
I can't be any more helpful than that right now =[

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Subject: [just-amiga] AIO news 28.10.98

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

AIO news 28.10.98
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Web space for sale
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Amiga Information Online is now proud to be offering web space for
a low-low cost. For 5mb web space for a year it will cost you just
#60 UKP / 130 US$ / 600 Francs / 200 Dutch Guilders with additional
5mbs for just #40 UKP / 85 US$ / 400 Francs / 130 Dutch Guilders

 You can have any name upto 8 characters, an example would be

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The wording 'amiga' can be replaced with anything of your choice,
if you are interested or would like specific details then please do
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AlienBreed3D editor V3.03

From: "Gary Peake" <gpeake@wt.net>

top_cat@post8.tele.dk scribed to us about [just-amiga] Re:
AlienBreed3D editor V3.03 in Just_Amiga

>From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>

>Hello Matthew

>On 25-Okt-98, Matthew O'Neill smashed the keyboard with:
>> Well it would have helped if you had advertised it!, I sure as hell
>> didn't know abou it

>I think I've advertised it the relevant places, this list didn't
>exist at the time, and it was mentioned at the unofficial support-
>sites on the web...

Please send any Public Relations type posts (new products, etc) direct
to me and I will make sure it is sent thru the Amiga News Feed. Every
Amiga news org takes the list and this way you get maximum publicity
for your work and your users will get the word that it is now
available.

We appreciate it too!


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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>>I also tried 'radecode2 4.ra' but that just says it's an Unrecognised
JU>>File =]

JU>Try radecode2 <4.ra >ram:test
JU>and then use play16 bits=16 freq=8000 ram:test

radecode2 replied with "EMT trap" and left ram:test empty.

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From: hotcakes@abacus.net.au

JU>People think the Year2000 problem refers to time. It is going to refer to a
JU>new Amiga that kicks PCs all over the face of the new millenium -- Fleecy
JU>Moss

I like that =] I like that a -lot- =]

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Subject: [just-amiga] Thanks to...

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

I have now received two donations to the AIO and JA web fund,
thanks to :-

Ian Urie and Malcolm Harnden

Without supportive Amiga users like these i'm sure the Amiga
wouldn't be still around today. 

*Please, please, please* help if you can, there is now £84 UKP
worth of CD's and disks up for grabs for just a small donation,
if you don't know what its about then email me for details.

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] AIO hot topic, give us your comments....

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

AIO issue 17 was released with a great success. Now the hot topic
was :-

"do you think the Amiga can take over the richest man in the 
world, B*ll G*tes?"

Send any crazy comments, suggestions, reasons, sensible comments
or anything regarding this and it'll be printed in AIO issue 18,
send it to the usual aio email address at : *amiga@thefree.net*  keep
them 100 words max.

Thanks for your support!

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Check this...

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Firstly let me say sorry for this message being 17k, I know its
slightly bigger but I had to let you all see this. Anyway its the new
AIO web banner, if you have a web page please stick it somewhere
on your web page. If you do please email me the address and i'll
also add a link to your page free of charge.

Kind Regards!
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On 27-Oct-98, Chris Seward wrote:
>From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Take a trip over to the RC5 site, for your next issue and let everyone know 
what the amiga is really capable of ie: 6th place, not bad for a dead machine 
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To: Just Amiga <just-amiga@onelist.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:09 +0100
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From: Ragnar Fyri <ragnar.fyri@daf.no>

This is just to let the world (?) know I have made a "small" contribution
to Aminet again. Well, a pretty big animation actually. Check pix/3dani
for the file Domino.lha. (Not Dominoes, that's someone else's version of
a similar idea!)
Okay, maybe not the most exciting theme for an animation, but after the
trouble I've had with it (the first upload went bad somehow - I got a form
letter from Urban saying the file was corrupt - so I had to do it again!)
I decided to plug it a bit to make sure *someone* downloads and views it...

To change the theme rather abruptly, that grinding noise you hear in the
background is my RC5 client chewing on numbers. I downloaded the software
(inluding the Myzar GUI) after reading about the project on this list a
couple of days back, and after a lot of starting and stopping and a couple
of crashes (caused by other software) it finished and sent off its first
block while I was connected earlier today. Time to register on the team, I
guess. I just have one question... The registration form has an entry for
processor speed. I have a 1200 with a Blizzard 1220/4, and SysInfo says the
processor speed is 30-something MHz. Should I enter this number or just
choose the nearest from the menu - or is this part of the form just for PCs?

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JU>Firstly let me say sorry for this message being 17k, I know its
JU>slightly bigger but I had to let you all see this. Anyway its the new
JU>AIO web banner, if you have a web page please stick it somewhere
JU>on your web page. If you do please email me the address and i'll
JU>also add a link to your page free of charge.

My page is devoted to my music and also contains links to a heap of
popular Amiga sites.

Your banner will be up in a few days =]

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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>guess. I just have one question... The registration form has an entry for
>processor speed. I have a 1200 with a Blizzard 1220/4, and SysInfo says the
>processor speed is 30-something MHz. Should I enter this number or just
>choose the nearest from the menu - or is this part of the form just for PCs?

Since it seems I started this and rc5 is most definitely on topic for amiga, 
but for the relevant type info you want, you need to visit the main rc5 site, 
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From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Ken,

On 28-Oct-98, you wrote:

> 
> Take a trip over to the RC5 site, for your next issue and let everyone
know 
> what the amiga is really capable of ie: 6th place, not bad for a dead
machine 
> considering the number of teams competing...
> 

Right ok i will do my best, just pop the url in a reply to this message
for me, ok? 

Kind Regards!

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Subject: [just-amiga] Letter to Digitiser from JA member

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

On Thursday 29/10/98 a letter was sent to the ani-amiga
teletext page 674 on channel 4 in the UK it is called Digitiser
and has been ani-amiga since about '93-'94 the letter was
from our own Matthew O'Neill. Heres how it goes :-

"If you were to receive a sudden spurt of Amiga games, would
you review them? or would you just call me a big poo-poo
head like you will in a minute?"

A reply to his email was :-

"....nnng.... nngg.. poo... poo-head"

If you don't live in the uk or have never read Digitiser it is
run by childish people who don't have a clue about anything
computer related. Lets get something done and make them
recognise the Amiga send your amiga letters or hate mail
to :-

*digitiser@teletext.co.uk*


Even if you don't live in the UK help get them to notice the
Amiga.

Nice one Matthew!!!!!

Kind Regards!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Donations news

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

So far i've had a less than welcome response to my fund raising idea
with now only 3 donations thanks to the following people who have
donated money so far :-

Malcolm Harnden
Ian Urie
Digital Images (Stuart Walker)

It is not really pay to enter a competition that is just a bonus to
whoever will donate something. Please please please help, if you
have some money you where going to send off send it now or if
you have some spare money please send it along.

Cheques payable to 'C.Brown'

Write : Chris Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside,
L62 9EU. ENGLAND.

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Subject: [just-amiga] Web visits boost...

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

Just a quick message to say the AIO site receives about 30 visits
per day atm. Thanks to everyone who is visiting and who has visited,
if you havn't already, why not :)? check it out at :-

http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/

We got about 97 hits in one day when issue 17 was released, any 
comments on the new issue? letters/articles/adverts/reviews or 
general help are welcome.

I have some great news for AIO and that is its getting a major GUI
overhaul, thanks to the brilliant work by *Linus Akesson* . This new
style should be out for next issue (21st November) don't worry though,
its only the GUI changing and not the quality articles.

Kind Regards!
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From: Kenneth Craig <kwdjc@wf.net>

Hello Chris

On 28-Oct-98, Chris Seward wrote:
> From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>
> 
> Ken,
> 
> On 28-Oct-98, you wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Take a trip over to the RC5 site, for your next issue and let everyone
> know 
>> what the amiga is really capable of ie: 6th place, not bad for a dead
> machine 
>> considering the number of teams competing...
>> 
> 
> Right ok i will do my best, just pop the url in a reply to this message
> for me, ok? 

Here is the URL:_#http://homepage.cistron.nl/~ttavoly/rc5/#_
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Subject: [just-amiga] AmosPro & Compiler for sale

From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

  Right all, my brother is selling AmosPro with loads of stuff (listed
below). UK customers only. Highest offer gets it, make him an offer by
emailing me at : *amiga@thefree.net*

The package includes :-

AmosPro V2.0 - With box, disks and manuels in good condition.
AmosPro Compiler - Boxed, with manuel, hardly used.
Ultimate Amos Book with example disk.
6 issues of Totally Amos on disk.

*ALL* orginals.

Make me an offer. Offer does not include P&P which will be required
to be paid once a deal is arranged.

Offers to : *amiga@thefree.net*

or phone (UK) : 07887 664 915

Kind Regards!
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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk>

[just-amiga] Letter to Digitiser from JA member gets dragged on once more......

SNIP

> If you don't live in the uk or have never read Digitiser it is
> run by childish people who don't have a clue about anything
> computer related. Lets get something done and make them
> recognise the Amiga send your amiga letters or hate mail
> to :-
> 
> *digitiser@teletext.co.uk*
> 
> 
> Even if you don't live in the UK help get them to notice the
> Amiga.
> 
> Nice one Matthew!!!!!
> 
:D

I send about 2 every day :))

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From: "ian urie" <ianurie@jwu.u-net.com>

On 29-Oct-98 05:48:41, Chris Seward said about [just-amiga] Letter to
Digitiser from JA member:
> From: "Chris Seward" <amiga@thefree.net>

> On Thursday 29/10/98 a letter was sent to the ani-amiga
I take it you mean _anti-amiga_......
> If you don't live in the uk or have never read Digitiser it is
> run by childish people who don't have a clue about anything
> computer related. Lets get something done and make them
> recognise the Amiga send your amiga letters or hate mail
> to :-

> *digitiser@teletext.co.uk*
I would agree on this point ie. they are childish and only interested
in games.They also ridicule amigas at every opportunity!
Sending letters to them will only reinforce their predudices,though,and
all amiga users will end up being further ridiculed.

> Even if you don't live in the UK help get them to notice the
> Amiga.

Wasting your time,see above.
I wouldn't bother,let them go their insipid way and simply ignore them.
Digitiser is mainly read by children,I would assume.Anyone else would surely
become very quickly tired of their unfunny jokes and their extremely
patronising attitudes to the public who actually buy the games.I believe their
service has been rubbished by nearly all formats and no-one takes them
seriously.



--
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

   I seem to be getting this error a lot, especially after running a PPC
program :

0x47960210 "CON"
0x0100000C (Recoverable)
ExecLibrary
Sanity check on memory list failed during AvailMem(MEMF_LARGEST)

   Pressing continue is normally enough to get it working but its really
annoying. This doesn't happen when IPrefs isn't run though.

   Does anyone know why this happenes? It does seem to clear itself up
after a while but I'd rather it didn't happen at all.

   I have a BPPC603e+ 240mhz/040 25mhz. 2x16meg simms.

   Can anyone help me? Is it just another bug in the amigas aging OS?

See ya.
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From: Raynald Le Moing <ucl@club-internet.fr>

Hello Andrew

Le 31-Oct-98, Andrew Andrew Crowe a écrit:

>AC From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>AC
>AC Hi Everybody,
>AC
>AC   I seem to be getting this error a lot, especially after running a PPC
>AC program :
>AC
>AC 0x47960210 "CON"
>AC 0x0100000C (Recoverable)
>AC ExecLibrary
>AC Sanity check on memory list failed during AvailMem(MEMF_LARGEST)
>AC
>AC   Pressing continue is normally enough to get it working but its really
>AC annoying. This doesn't happen when IPrefs isn't run though.
>AC
>AC   Does anyone know why this happenes? It does seem to clear itself up
>AC after a while but I'd rather it didn't happen at all.
>AC
>AC   I have a BPPC603e+ 240mhz/040 25mhz. 2x16meg simms.
>AC
>AC   Can anyone help me? Is it just another bug in the amigas aging OS?
>AC
>AC See ya.
Regards

May be using FastIprefs4035 (aminet 19/util/boot) will solve the problem.

Regards

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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 01-Nov-98, Andrew Crowe wrote:
>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

>Hi Everybody,
>   I seem to be getting this error a lot, especially after running a PPC
>program :

>0x47960210 "CON"
>0x0100000C (Recoverable)
>ExecLibrary
>Sanity check on memory list failed during AvailMem(MEMF_LARGEST)

>   Pressing continue is normally enough to get it working but its really
>annoying. This doesn't happen when IPrefs isn't run though.
>   Does anyone know why this happenes? It does seem to clear itself up
>after a while but I'd rather it didn't happen at all.
>   I have a BPPC603e+ 240mhz/040 25mhz. 2x16meg simms.
>   Can anyone help me? Is it just another bug in the amigas aging OS?
>See ya.
>-- 


Yep, it happened to me too, when I had a funky EDO simm on my 
accellerator board.

For some reason FPM (I think) never goes funky,  once it breaks, 
it stays that way...

But EDO ram, can get bits of it falling over intermittently & still
pass a memory test.
I think it has something to do with the way EDO ram is accessed.

The problem will not always show up,  also it can be temperature dependant.

So, if you are using EDO in you board, chuck the ram in the 'suspect' box, 
pop in 2 new (matched) EDO simms,   give that a whirl....

PS: Make sure that they are 60nS or less in access speed.


>-------------------------------------
Colin Wenzel. Australia.

Email:  colstv@hotkey.net.au
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,


> May be using FastIprefs4035 (aminet 19/util/boot) will solve the
problem.

I already use FastIPrefs. At first I thought that it was to blame, but
normal IPrefs does it too ;(

See ya.
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Yep, it happened to me too, when I had a funky EDO simm on my 
> accellerator board.

> For some reason FPM (I think) never goes funky,  once it breaks, 
> it stays that way...

> But EDO ram, can get bits of it falling over intermittently & still
> pass a memory test.
> I think it has something to do with the way EDO ram is accessed.

> The problem will not always show up,  also it can be temperature
dependant.

> So, if you are using EDO in you board, chuck the ram in the 'suspect'
box, 
> pop in 2 new (matched) EDO simms,   give that a whirl....

> PS: Make sure that they are 60nS or less in access speed.

There not EDO simms, and there matched pairs or 16megs with 60nS speed.

   Thanks anyway.

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From: Colin Wenzel <colstv@hotkey.net.au>

On 01-Nov-98, Andrew Crowe wrote:
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>They're not EDO simms, and they're matched pairs of 16megs with 60nS speed.
>   Thanks anyway.

--------------------------------------

Just a thought.....  Maybe they should be,  if I remember correctly,
the Apollo accelerators (mach II)  would only work properly with EDO.

Maybe the blizzard has special ram requirements....  or a wait state
link that may need to be set...

May I respectfully suggest,  a re-read of any documentation that
came with the board may be a good idea at this point.....


>-------------------------------------
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From: Mikolaj Calusinski <bloelle@polbox.com>

Hello Colin, on 01-Nov-98 you wrote:

> Just a thought.....  Maybe they should be,  if I remember correctly,
> the Apollo accelerators (mach II)  would only work properly with EDO.

No, you're wrong. I've got an Apollo 040 board with two SIMMS - the first is
a normal FPM type (16Mb) and the second one is EDO (32Mb). They coexists
quite happily. In the past I had used various sizes of FPM SIMMS alone
without any problems.

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Subject: [just-amiga] New Amiga rumours I found.....

From: "Gavin Williams" <gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk>

Hi all.

Just surfing the net one night and found this on a Mac page. You may find it
interesting. Have a look at
http://macweek.zdnet.com/1998/10/26/op-knife.html for the full story.

Lazarus, come forth!
Speaking of ugly political campaigns: The Knife's spin doctors inform him
that Apple is in a USDA Choice tizzy over an alleged plan by Gateway to
breathe life into Lazarus, the code name for a line of super Amiga boxes
based on the PowerPC G3 and slated to ship in 1999.

Here's the skinny: Some pie-eyed observers insist the G3 silicon runs
AmigaOS 4.0 faster and smoother than it does Mac OS 8.5 or Rhapsody. Adding
insult to injury, Lazarus will ship with a Mac emulation option that will
allegedly run 680x0-based Mac applications faster than a Power Mac. D'oh!

But wait! That's not all: Gateway is also reportedly planning to run AmigaOS
4.0 on Intel processors complete with Mac emulation. Double-d'oh!

Moving right along, AmigaOS 4.0's virtual machine mode, which can boot
another OS and run it natively, should allow Lazarus users to boot BeOS out
of the box and the Mac OS with just a soupçon of additional software. A
deer! A female deer!

Thanks to the tireless efforts of the Knife's grim-faced cadre of special
prosecutors, the Knife has cobbled together a preliminary set of specs for
the CHRP-compliant package: A $1,400 Lazarus package that includes a 15-inch
monitor will pack a 266-MHz G3 chip, an SVGA video port, two Universal
Serial Bus ports, two RS-232C serial ports, one EPP parallel port, built-in
SCSI-3, a 32-speed CD-ROM, a 3-Gbyte hard disk, 16 Mbytes of SDRAM, a V.90
56-Kbps modem, four PCI slots, three Zorro slots and -- dig this! -- a
1.44-Mbyte floppy drive. (An IDE Zip drive will be optional.)

The device's minitower case can be flipped over to do double duty on users'
desktops, and the whole package is reportedly designed to be simple enough
for a Young Republican to use.

Gavin Williams
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From: "Gavin Williams" <gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk>

Having just read the article in the Amiga Web Directory regarding the new
Amiga it seems Fleecy Moss does not share the Mac-heads views on the spec.
Maybe they are just getting a little nervous?

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