From amiga@fdn.co.uk Mon May 01 00:09:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7683 invoked by uid 504); 5 May 2000 23:01:23 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 May 2000 23:01:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4004-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2000 00:01:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 741 invoked from network); 5 May 2000 23:01:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 May 2000 23:01:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 May 2000 23:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 7664 invoked by uid 504); 5 May 2000 23:01:13 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.96.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.96) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 May 2000 23:01:13 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:09:24 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] World of Amiga 2ooo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya, I heard about the World of Amiga 2ooo being held in Birmingham, UK. After that I've heard nothing else plus the website (http://www.worldofamiga.com) seems to have no information what so ever. Has this been cancelled? Its coming very close to the usual dates for such events and little has been said, I really hope it hasn't been cancelled as I was actually looking forwards to going even just for the atmosphere. 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Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3864/3/_/490399/_/957567679/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Mon May 01 00:57:55 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27872 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 01:04:22 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 01:04:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3959-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 01:03:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10897 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 01:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 01:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 01:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8612 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 01:03:29 -0000 Received: from iona.abel.net.uk (212.1.130.142) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 01:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 447 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 01:03:26 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-23.cvx5.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally.abelgratis.com@212.1.152.23) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 1 May 2000 01:03:26 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000430222343.24040407@mail.zedz.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 01:57:55 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Absolute Beginners Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi just-amiga people, Copying following email to just-amiga egroups to give some indication where i'm at. Have had lots of help from an Amiga user-group member via phone, snail + email, now trying to find own way. Have much to learn and hoping for some help or a prod in the right direction here and there. Other questions - apart from obvious unfamiliarity (long spelling of 'ignorance') with net software and etiquette - how can I check if FPU present? preferably without opening up my Amiga. Voyager 3.2 about: says image decode vimg lib is 68020. On install I selected 68030+FPU (there was no 68030 without FPU option. I've set 'images' config to '2 pass' and fpu. Don't know modem speed. thought it was 33k, have set interface to 38k and miami says V34 but have read somewhere that 32bis=9,600bps. Tried USR website but no info - its prob obsolete. Offline browsing is 'interesting':-) seem to lose some links or complete websites after switch-off or reboot. just had a thought-maybe should install Voyager Docs in V drawer. Cache directory takes ages to load, then, after selectting and viewing something, if i go 'back' to directory it goes through the whole loading process again. Don't know when to use 'cache memory flush' or prune. re - long load time for cache directory, I read emails from just-amiga re HD cache. As my HD is relatively empty to date I copied everything from the sector containing internet files to another sector, reformatted the sector with directory cache OFF and copied them back. Don't know yet if any different. (Had a look how to do it just using HDtools but couldn't find an option to do it). I hope these things not too trivial to engage brains:-) Thanks in advance, I'll be grateful for any daylight. /email referred to at top:/ >> Hello Nomen > >> On 30-Apr-00, you wrote: > >>> You have contacted an anonymous remailing service. If you are >>> trying to send anonymous mail, please send a message with subject >>> "remailer-help" to for more information. >>> >>> Problems or inappropriate use of the service should be reported to >>> the administrator at . >>> >>> -- remailer@dizum.com >>> >> I am new to Internet and receive messages 'you are about to submit data >> in an insecure way' - ok for now but some sites require encryption as >> condition of use, so I have experimented by sending emails to myself >> using: > >> (1st): 'encryption' Security option on my mailer - resulted in my >> internet access prog jamming up so had to shut down and reload. > >> (2nd): 'anonymous' Security option. then realised it had sent it to >> 'remailer'. > >> What I expected to happen was I would receive the email without a sender >> address. Obviously not the case - trying to see why. > >> I am using: Amiga 1200 computer, 68030/40 CPU accel. 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Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:41:17 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris... On 30-Apr-00, you wrote: > Thanks and Happy Birthday back (for yesterday) i'm > quite sure you've had plenty more than me :) shhh! You did say yours was the 7yh May, didn't you? I've aware of DST, but, a week earlier...??? Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Insanity is hereditary - you get it from your kids -- Bumper Sticker *Tony P. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi roger... >> today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with fan >> inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away fast, >> that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with a metall >> thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got 4 stiches >> :) >> >> am i the master or what? >> > everyone must make the blood sacrifice when messing about with the miggy's > internal workings. That is soo true :) thanks for pointing that out, don't feel bad about it any more.. it was a joke that it was an accident, I just wanted to sacrifice a little for it! ;-) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr f3a: Format of drive "a:" failed. Trying "c:" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits. 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You wrote at 01-Mai-00 concerning "[just-amiga] Absolute Beginners": Jc> Other questions - apart from obvious unfamiliarity (long spelling Jc> of 'ignorance') with net software and etiquette - how can I check Jc> if FPU present? preferably without opening up my Amiga. Type 'cpu' in a shell or in the command line of workbench. If you have a fpu, you will see '68030 68882' Or look at your acceleration board. If there is an empty square socket, you have no fpu. Jc> Don't know modem speed. thought it was 33k, have set interface to Jc> 38k and miami says V34 but have read somewhere that Jc> 32bis=9,600bps. Tried USR website but no info - its prob obsolete. V32bis is up to 14400 bit/s. Regards, Armin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! 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Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 03:35:09 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: remailer-help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30-Apr-00 at 22:02:45, Lorens Johansson wrote these words of wisdom: > Hi Joe > >> Software: Miami 2.0 Internet access > > I would upgrade miami, it's free to 2.1p (I THINK)... but 3.x should be > alot better!! 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And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/957166511/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From hugo@inbbs.fsnet.co.uk Mon May 01 09:41:17 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 5451 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 08:47:52 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 08:47:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3965-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 08:47:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11136 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 08:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 08:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 08:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5637 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 08:46:59 -0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.171) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 08:46:59 -0000 Received: from modem-139.minnesota.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.74.139] helo=inbbs) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mBnw-0005NU-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 01 May 2000 09:43:48 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Hugo Wilkinson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:41:17 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Absolute Beginners Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe > Copying following email to just-amiga egroups to give some indication > where i'm at. Have had lots of help from an Amiga user-group member via > phone, snail + email, now trying to find own way. Have much to learn and > hoping for some help or a prod in the right direction here and there. > > Other questions - apart from obvious unfamiliarity (long spelling of > 'ignorance') with net software and etiquette - how can I check if FPU > present? preferably without opening up my Amiga. Voyager 3.2 about: says open a CLI and type "cpu".. it should look something like this; ) System: 68030 68882 (INST: Cache Burst) (DATA: Cache CopyBack) if you have 68882 or 68881 present, then yes you do have an FPU... > image decode vimg lib is 68020. On install I selected 68030+FPU (there was > no 68030 without FPU option. I've set 'images' config to '2 pass' and fpu. it would probably crash if you didn't have an FPU... > Don't know modem speed. thought it was 33k, have set interface to 38k and > miami says V34 but have read somewhere that 32bis=9,600bps. Tried USR > website but no info - its prob obsolete. that is all fine.. i wouldn't touch anything in there... > Offline browsing is 'interesting':-) seem to lose some links or complete > websites after switch-off or reboot. just had a thought-maybe should > install Voyager Docs in V drawer. even after visiting whole webpages, you never seem to actually get the WHOLE thing in your cache.. don't know why ;( > Cache directory takes ages to load, then, after selectting and viewing > something, if i go 'back' to directory it goes through the whole loading > process again. yup.. this is just a little bit of crap programming really.. the author (bless him) works hard on the browser and such, but should really have an 'index' file for the cache - it takes AGES to load on EVERYONE's system! :) > Don't know when to use 'cache memory flush' or prune. you don't have to use them at all if you don't want to.. the browser will automatically prune/delete old stuff out of the cache.. you can use 'memory flush' if you find your running low on memory after a good 10+mins of browsing... > re - long load time for cache directory, I read emails from just-amiga re > HD cache. As my HD is relatively empty to date I copied everything from > the sector containing internet files to another sector, reformatted the > sector with directory cache OFF and copied them back. Don't know yet if > any different. (Had a look how to do it just using HDtools but couldn't > find an option to do it). i would highly recommend re-formatting the sector/partition *WITH* Directory Cache ON.. it does give significantly faster HD access.. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Neil.. > Freeserve have had a week to process my (=A310 a month 0800 access) order > and still haven't replied. i signed up for that too.. and if you did it on the THURSDAY 20th like I did, then the earliest you'll hear from them is tuesday (tommorow).. it takes 7-10 WORKING days apparently to get it all sorted..=20 > AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk > Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ what does TKG BBS stand for?? I use to run Innovations BBS on xenolink (which has stopped developement).. i'm interested in setting up a telnet BBS and I remember when I first bought Xenolink, it was a hot battle (back in 1994/95) between Xeno and Zeus. anyway, now, its obvious that Zeus is 'better'.. it was even better back at the time.. i just didn't realise, and I think the cost was substantially higher... anyway, how much does Zeus cost now!??! still available? and what useful internet features does it use?!? is it any good for telnet? (i imagine so, even Maxs was)... thanks cya hugo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High rates giving you headaches? 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... >> today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with >> fan inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away >> fast, that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with >> a metall thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got >> 4 stiches :) > > I have suffered with cheap cases too.. never more than a scratch though. I beg to differ, I don't think a Towerhawk is a cheap case! >> am i the master or what? > > I hereby appoint you to be a master of the finger slicing guild. Welcome. Thanks! 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To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/957204346/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 01 18:28:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25743 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 18:07:31 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 18:07:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3973-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 18:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 11751 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 18:05:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 21800 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.210) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from modem-9.glucophage.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.205.9] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mKZn-0007cW-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 01 May 2000 19:05:47 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.glucophage.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 1 May 0 19:05:38 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.glucophage.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 1 May 0 19:04:51 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390E29B3.FDA6@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 18:28:20 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday May 01 2000, Hugo Wilkinson said to Neil Williams: >> Freeserve have had a week to process my (£10 a month 0800 access) order >> and still haven't replied. HW> i signed up for that too.. and if you did it on the THURSDAY 20th like HW> I did, then the earliest you'll hear from them is tuesday (tommorow).. HW> it takes 7-10 WORKING days apparently to get it all sorted.. On their website they said one week - I took them at their word, damn bank holidays and all :) >> AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk >> Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ HW> what does TKG BBS stand for?? I use to run Innovations BBS on xenolink The Killing Ground. HW> (which has stopped developement).. i'm interested in setting up a HW> telnet BBS and I remember when I first bought Xenolink, it was a hot HW> battle (back in 1994/95) between Xeno and Zeus. anyway, now, its HW> obvious that Zeus is HW> 'better'.. it was even better back at the time.. i just didn't realise, HW> and I think the cost was substantially higher... Zeus was pretty much the same price as Xeno, until Xeno dropped to 60 quid - Zeus then dropped to 75.. HW> anyway, how much does Zeus cost now!??! still available? and what I'm working on Zeus everyday, in fact release 1.4 is due soon. You'll find pricing on our website (along with credit card ording facilities) at http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ You can also order by cheque if you want. We supply Zeus on CD-R disks. If you don't have a CD-ROM drive (ha!) then we can arrange to send a /big/ archive via e-mail too. It costs UK£59 new, or if you send us proof of purchase (front of the manual etc., which we'll send back) of Xenolink you can get a decent discount. /Please/ write to zeus@bleach.demon.co.uk (or follow the guides on the website) to arrange where to send it - as credit card ordering is more expensive than a cheque (US$97 vs UK£59) it'd be a good idea to stick a cheque in with the proof.. You can also buy a manual (1.1 manual with a suppliment for Zeus 1.3 features) for UK£15 - it's expensive but they cost loads to get printed... You get guide and HTML online manuals on the CD. HW> useful internet features does it use?!? is it any good for telnet? (i HW> imagine so, even Maxs was)... Currently, Zeus 1.3 relies on a third party telnet device (like TelSer) and works well. This will change with the 1.4 release, but I'm keeping that under wraps until release time :) -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High rates giving you headaches? 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday May 01 2000, Lorens Johansson said to Neil Williams: >>> fast, that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with >>> a metall thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got >>> 4 stiches :) >> I have suffered with cheap cases too.. never more than a scratch though. LJ> I beg to differ, I don't think a Towerhawk is a cheap case! Oh. Production irregularity, then? >>> am i the master or what? >> I hereby appoint you to be a master of the finger slicing guild. >> Welcome. LJ> Thanks! Means alot! You realise there's a subscription cost? ;) -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30-Apr-00 01:16:37, Chris Seward said about Re: [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER?: >Ian, >On 29-Apr-00, you wrote: >> Did it originate from a Freeserve address?? :)) >It didn't actually, it was from outside the UK, >no mention of any freeserve mail servers etc. >Why, if it had of been what difference would it >of made :)? >The actualy host was.... "acadia.net" >Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? Just another ISP that gives a free phone number 24/7 for a few quid :) Getting to be quite a few of them about...... -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 Children are curly, dimpled lunatics. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... >>>> fast, that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with >>>> a metall thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and >>>> got 4 stiches :) >>> >>> I have suffered with cheap cases too.. never more than a scratch >>> though. >> >> I beg to differ, I don't think a Towerhawk is a cheap case! > > Oh. Production irregularity, then? Well, I dunno, I think Towerhawk is a great tower, it's made in metall, not plastic :), fits alot, etc... >>>> am i the master or what? >>> I hereby appoint you to be a master of the finger slicing guild. >>> Welcome. >> Thanks! Means alot! > > You realise there's a subscription cost? > > ;) haha, ofcoz, what is it then? /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 IBM & MS are trademarks; Amiga is a philosophy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 01-May-00 18:50:22, Andrew Crowe said about [just-amiga] Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER?: >Hi Everybody, >>> Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? >> >> Why not go and see? It's £20 a year for 0800 internet access, from the >> Free4All people. I have yet to hear a bad word said about them. +£30 to register..... > Ooo, I've heard quite a few bad things about redhotand from the AFB > mailing list. My God.....some people are still on that list....probably rabbiting on about DVD films and anything not even remotely connected with Amiga and sending 150 mails a day to do it :( >Some people find it really hard to get on (always engaged) Depends if you try and get on between 6-11p.m.,with free access at all times and being a shift worker,I don't usually use those times. > and other people say it's really slow. I've had much slower downloads using a traditional paying ISP...it can be slow but if you do get on ,it usually downloads about 5k/s >They do say on their website they're dealing with the problems though... Yeah......we'll see :) -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 If you're not confused, you're not thinking clearly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday May 01 2000, Lorens Johansson said to Neil Williams: >>> I beg to differ, I don't think a Towerhawk is a cheap case! >> Oh. Production irregularity, then? LJ> Well, I dunno, I think Towerhawk is a great tower, it's made in metall, LJ> not plastic :), fits alot, etc... Argh, I hate plastic cases. If you scratch a metal case you can paint over it, not so with plastic. Is the Towerhawk an A1200 tower conversion? I'm thinking of doing it with mine.. >>>> I hereby appoint you to be a master of the finger slicing guild. >>>> Welcome. >>> Thanks! Means alot! >> You realise there's a subscription cost? LJ> haha, ofcoz, what is it then? It's measured in litres of blood. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ian On 01-May-00, you wrote: i Everybody, >=20 >>>> Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? >>>=20 >>> Why not go and see? It's =A320 a year for 0800 internet access, from t= he >>> Free4All people. I have yet to hear a bad word said about them. >=20 > +=A330 to register..... >=20 >> Ooo, I've heard quite a few bad things about redhotand from the AFB >> mailing list. >=20 > My God.....some people are still on that list....probably rabbiting on > about DVD films and anything not even remotely connected with Amiga > and sending 150 mails a day to do it :( .............................. Yup! =20 >> Some people find it really hard to get on (always engaged) >=20 > Depends if you try and get on between 6-11p.m.,with free access at all > times and being a shift worker,I don't usually use those times. I beleive ther had been a few problems at the start, But according to reports they seem to have sorted this out. Redhotant is run by "Free4all" and has great Amiga Support ;) =20 >> and other people say it's really slow.=20 >=20 > I've had much slower downloads using a traditional paying ISP...it can > be slow but if you do get on ,it usually downloads about 5k/s >=20 >> They do say on their website they're dealing with the problems though...= =20 >=20 > Yeah......we'll see :) I use Telewest's SurfUnlimited for web browsing .....=A310 per month ...Unlimited access .....Not to bad ...Never experienced a lot of problems with them ...But not as cheap as RHA (Yet;) Best --=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-()=20=20=20=20 (o o) The Ferret=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 \o/=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your=20 unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching.=20 And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/957219822/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chaos@free4all.co.uk Tue May 02 14:34:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 15:17:48 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 15:17:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3986-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 15:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5950 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 15:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 15:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 15:16:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 31878 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 15:16:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 15:16:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31268 invoked by uid 101); 2 May 2000 15:15:03 -0000 Received: from cust241.jakinternet.co.uk (HELO redhotant.com) (Pops@194.131.242.241) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 2 May 2000 15:15:03 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <390D0BB9.FC5C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk/wai/JohnLord.gif" X-eGroups-From: John Lord From: John Lord MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:34:39 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk , On 30-Apr-00, you wrote: >> Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? > Why not go and see? It's =A320 a year for 0800 internet access, from the > Free4All people. I have yet to hear a bad word said about them. I signed up with rha last week, and within about 1 min, got the confirmatio= n email from them, 20 mins later I was using them. There is, in a way, a problem, in that you can sometimes have a bit of a wait trying to connect, but once on, generally things are ok. I have not had many line drops, the only thing that they ask is for people NOT to stay connected all the time. Because that makes the connecting problem for others, and they state that they WILL track down the ones you are abusing the system, and when they do, their accounts will be terminated :) And ATM they are installing more modems to try to ease this problem, not ba= d for a new isp, IIRK since they have been active they have constantly monitored the situation, and acted on it where possible. I paid =A330 + =A330 a year for the top service, others are =A330 + =A320 a= nd =A330 + =A310. The prices are due to go up now, but they havn't announced the new prices yet. And the best bit yet is that they, and free4all actively support the Amiga,= so that's a big point in their favour anyway:) As My web site http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk is hosted by free4all, it now means that updating my site is nw free through rha. I need this because in the next few weeks, I hope to have added a great deal, (special project I have started). > Freeserve have had a week to process my (=A310 a month 0800 access) order= and > still haven't replied. I think I have said it all above :) Regards --=20 Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex John http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk John E Lord. chaos@free4all.co.uk ICQ 39248297 Nick =3D Chaos *** OS 3.5 *** ~*--------- A1200 BlizzardPPC 240mhz 060/50 --------*~ ~*----------------- BlizzardVision ----------------*~ Supporting Magnum Opus - http://www.magnumopus.co.uk Supporting Free Local Calls - http://www.unmetered.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957280598/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Tue May 02 14:55:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16653 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 14:57:01 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 14:57:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3985-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 14:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17697 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 14:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 14:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 14:55:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9896 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 14:55:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.netcom.net.uk (194.42.236.3) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 14:55:35 -0000 Received: from ntsbh10.capgemini.co.uk (hgty.capgemini.co.uk [194.42.240.2]) by mail1.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01146 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:55:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from nt-sbh-05.capgemini.co.uk (unverified) by ntsbh10.capgemini.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 15:55:18 +0100 X-Internal-ID: 38FE06F30004B175 Received: from exsbh01.capgemini.co.uk (10.16.16.26) by nt-sbh-05.capgemini.co.uk (NPlex 2.0.108) for just-amiga@egroups.com; 2 May 2000 15:53:38 +0100 Received: by exsbh01.capgemini.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:55:18 +0100 Message-Id: <07E46B1DAB75D311BB140008C75D96C93F58F9@exsbh03.capgemini.co.uk> To: "'just-amiga@egroups.com'" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) From: "Wheeler, Jeffrey " MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:55:15 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Microvitec 1438 Monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, A problem has manifested itself on my Microvitec 1438 multisync monitor, and I was wondering whether anybody else out there has experienced a similar problem. The video signal has started to intermittently disappear at regular intervals, even though the monitor screen still has power to it, and the only way to get the signal back is to tap the monitor on the side, or to switch the monitor off for five minutes or so, and then back on again. This is happening whatever screen mode I happen to be in, whether playing a game, or using workbench etc. Any information i.e. fault description or repair cost (and a recommended repair centre), would be much appreciated. Jeff Wheeler Cap Gemini UK (Rotherham) jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Tel: Internal: 717 6041 External: (01709) 84 6041 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/957279336/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Tue May 02 17:06:30 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21366 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 16:07:01 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 16:07:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3987-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 16:06:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12547 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 16:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 16:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 16:06:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 4222 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 16:06:33 -0000 Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net (195.102.240.34) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 16:06:33 -0000 Received: from [194.119.178.106] (helo=ramjam.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12mfBz-0003Nf-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:06:35 +0100 X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <390BABBB.FB73@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> (from just-amiga@egroups.com) (on Sat, 29 Apr 00 21:07:09) Lines: 28 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 02 May 00 17:06:30 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk > > On Friday April 28 2000, Marion E. Wyatt said to Gary Peake: > > MEW> How about rallying a group of developers to port Java to the classic > MEW> Amiga > MEW> :-) 68k/ppc optimized? It would be a great project to start up... It > > I've been considering this, I may have a CVS server I could 'procure'... > Apart from AmigaOS needing a better Java implementation than Kaffe, there's > also MorphOS and AROS to think about - both of which will good Java support. Writing the JVM is not a problem. There are several around. It's the libraries that are the problem. Before you commit to starting yet another Amiga java attempt, read up on the AWT and Swing libraries, and design an outline of how you'd implement that on the Amiga. Work out how many classes you need, and how many could be written per week - then work out how many years it will take... Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957283596/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 02 19:16:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6015 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 19:11:58 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:11:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3990-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 19:11:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23973 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:11:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 19:11:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:11:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 10031 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:11:30 -0000 Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.174) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:11:30 -0000 Received: from modem-58.praseodymium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.58] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mi4u-0002f6-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 02 May 2000 20:11:29 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.praseodymium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 2 May 0 20:11:16 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390F82E6.FF3D@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:16:09 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday May 02 2000, John Lord said to Neil Williams: JL> I signed up with rha last week, and within about 1 min, got the JL> confirmation email from them, 20 mins later I was using them. There is, .. JL> many line drops, the only thing that they ask is for people NOT to stay JL> connected all the time. Because that makes the connecting problem for Why not? You have paid for the service. JL> others, and they state that they WILL track down the ones you are JL> abusing the system, and when they do, their accounts will be terminated JL> :) I'm not too happy about that :( Pay for something, use it, get kicked for using it. I did use Free4All at one time, and found it very reliable. The thing that pulled me to Freeserve was the unlimited email accounts under my own domain.. I should really register my own domain, but haven't a clue how to go about it. If I do it via Freeserve it'd cost £150! 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday May 02 2000, Tim@ramjam.u-Net.com said to Neil Williams: >> I've been considering this, I may have a CVS server I could 'procure'... >> Apart from AmigaOS needing a better Java implementation than Kaffe, >> there's >> also MorphOS and AROS to think about - both of which will good Java >> support. TN> Writing the JVM is not a problem. There are several around. Oh. TN> It's the libraries that are the problem. Before you commit to starting TN> yet another Amiga java attempt, read up on the AWT and Swing libraries, I have only basic information on them. The source in the JDK is 17MB, although it appears to be mostly documentation. TN> and design an outline of how you'd implement that on the Amiga. Work TN> out how many classes you need, and how many could be written per week - TN> then work out how many years it will take... I'd better get started then. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. 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I can understand with Freeserve and Freenetname that > you already have webspace with them and upload the pages to there, but ho= w > does it work with Easily, for example? To be honest Neil I'm not really sure !! - I think they can just redirect t= o say a Freeserve account with email but I'm not quite sure about the webspace. Does anyone know what would be displayed in the address window of the browser after entering say http://www.pyrah.net would it be that address or would it say show the address its being diverted to like http://www.wayne-pyrah.freeserve.co.uk for example. When I use freenetname it actually shows http://www.pyrah.co.uk all the tim= e but this is actually with them so that could be why. 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Go get something great! http://click.egroups.com/1/3025/2/_/490399/_/957297572/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 02 20:34:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10297 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3993-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 19:50:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16932 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 19:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 15911 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:50:13 -0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.210) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:13 -0000 Received: from modem-61.lutetium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.61] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12migN-0007vu-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 02 May 2000 20:50:11 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.lutetium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 2 May 0 20:49:59 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390F9395.FF4C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <07E46B1DAB75D311BB140008C75D96C93F58F9@exsbh03.capgemini.co.uk> X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 20:34:32 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Microvitec 1438 Monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday May 02 2000, Jeffrey Wheeler said to All: JW> A problem has manifested itself on my Microvitec 1438 multisync JW> monitor, and I was wondering whether anybody else out there has JW> experienced a similar problem. The video signal has started to JW> intermittently disappear at regular intervals, even though the monitor Sounds like a loose connection or perhaps even the tube is going. If you have the Amiga version of the I think you'd be best off trying Analogic (advertise on the back of Amiga Format / Active) otherwise god knows what a PC repairer will make of the 23pin connector :) If it's the other version with a 15pin connector then any good PC or TV repair shop should be able to take a look. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957297015/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 02 20:42:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10308 invoked by uid 504); 2 May 2000 19:50:52 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3994-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2000 19:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 528 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 May 2000 19:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 13639 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 19:50:17 -0000 Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.18) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 19:50:17 -0000 Received: from modem-61.lutetium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.61] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12migR-0006Rw-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 02 May 2000 20:50:15 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.lutetium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 2 May 0 20:50:02 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390F9395.FF4D@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 20:42:45 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Domain names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday May 02 2000, Wayne Pyrah - H Y P E R B O Y - said to Neil Williams: >> domain.. I should really register my own domain, but haven't a clue how >> to go about it. >> If I do it via Freeserve it'd cost £150! So, I'm looking for other >> ways.. > Try www.easily.co.uk - you can get .co.uk for a tenner + .com + > .net for £35 - both last for 2 years and then you pay again if you want > to keep it. Interesting! How does this work? I can understand with Freeserve and Freenetname that you already have webspace with them and upload the pages to there, but how does it work with Easily, for example? Do I pay extra to have them host a web site and store email, or do they redirect to (e.g.) my Freeserve account? Is there a step-by-step or beginners guide to this somewhere? :) As soon as I understand the principles behind hosting & domain names I'll register what I need. I don't want to do it and find I've wasted 35 quid... -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. http://click.egroups.com/1/3012/2/_/490399/_/957297019/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 03 01:22:13 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32471 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 01:21:11 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 01:21:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3996-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 01:20:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 16781 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 01:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 01:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 01:20:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 27031 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 01:20:43 -0000 Received: from mail02.iprimus.com.au (203.134.65.91) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 01:20:43 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.137]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 3 May 2000 11:22:43 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <390F9395.FF4C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:22:13 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Microvitec 1438 Monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03-May-00, a un-named person wrote: > On Tuesday May 02 2000, someone else wrote: >> A problem has manifested itself on my Microvitec 1438 multisync >> monitor, and I was wondering whether anybody else out there has >> experienced a similar problem. The video signal has started to >> intermittently disappear at regular intervals, even though the >> monitor > Sounds like a loose connection or perhaps even the tube is going. Jeez I hate that, "The tube is going"..... Now listen, irrespective of what you have heard, or what "magic" you think is inside a TV/Monitor, unless you throw a damn ashtray through the front if the screen, *picture tubes DON'T go !!!* They have 3 colour guns, ALL of them would have to fail simultaneously to cause a black out. The best you can do, is watch them fade away over periods of years. The focus will degrade, the brightness & contrast controls will be flat-out and it is still not high enough for a normal picture. One or more of the colour guns output may be so low as to cause a "grey scale" imbalance, so that everything may be green-ish or purple.... That is what tubes do.............. The other ways it can fail are so rare that you would have a better chance of catching leprosy..... The above mentioned monitor appears to have an intermittent component malfuction of some kind. Or, if giving it a "whack" causes the fault to change state, it is a bad solder joint somewhere inside.. (quite common) That is all the information that can be supplied without a first hand evaluation of the unit. ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Sunshine Coast Audio & Television. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957316844/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 03 02:59:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2922 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 03:08:16 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 03:08:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3998-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 03:07:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3438 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 03:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 03:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 03:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2848 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 03:07:47 -0000 Received: from mail02.iprimus.com.au (203.134.65.91) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 03:07:47 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.137]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 3 May 2000 13:09:47 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0320001933335.Amiga@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:59:08 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Monitor driver needed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04-May-00, bgroff@earthlink.net wrote: > Hi all, > I am hoping that someone out there can help me in finding a monitor > driver for my Picssso IV graphic board. The driver I am looking for > is for an Electrohome 1440, series 13 autoscan monitor. My system is > an Amiga 2000 with an old Progressive peripheral 040 processor card > and 32 MEGs memory, also can't find a newer version of their software > driver any place. If anyone can direct me to a place where I may find > this monitor driver, it would be appreciated. Here in the states it > is very difficult to find any info for the Amiga. I think you have been talking to PC owners too-much. You do NOT need an individual monitor driver for the P96 software. The software IS the monitor driver.... To edit your MONITOR values, go into: :prefs/picasso96mode and define a new one or edit one in there.... ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. 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Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 01:59:12 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02-May-00 at 13:06:30, tim@ramjam.u-net.com wrote these words of wisdom: > Hi ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk >> On Friday April 28 2000, Marion E. Wyatt said to Gary Peake: >> >>> How about rallying a group of developers to port Java to the >>> classic >>> Amiga :-) 68k/ppc optimized? It would be a great project to start up... >> It >> >> I've been considering this, I may have a CVS server I could 'procure'... >> Apart from AmigaOS needing a better Java implementation than Kaffe, >> there's >> also MorphOS and AROS to think about - both of which will good Java >> support. > > Writing the JVM is not a problem. There are several around. > > It's the libraries that are the problem. Before you commit to starting yet > another Amiga java attempt, read up on the AWT and Swing libraries, and > design an outline of how you'd implement that on the Amiga. Work out how > many classes you need, and how many could be written per week - then work > out how many years it will take... Holger didn't think it would take years from the way he talked last year aftr announcing the project.. and as for the classes, wouldn't it be faster if multiple developers were working on it? 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To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@egroups.com) (on Wed, 03 May 00 01:59:12) Lines: 29 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 00 16:22:26 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Marion > > Writing the JVM is not a problem. There are several around. > > > > It's the libraries that are the problem. Before you commit to starting yet > > another Amiga java attempt, read up on the AWT and Swing libraries, and > > design an outline of how you'd implement that on the Amiga. Work out how > > many classes you need, and how many could be written per week - then work > > out how many years it will take... > > Holger didn't think it would take years from the way he talked last year > aftr announcing the project.. and as for the classes, wouldn't it be faster > if multiple developers were working on it? I thought that part of what this > whole OpenAmiga open source movement thing was about. > Holger had all the source code from Sun - that's a lot easier than writing from scratch. Even so, Holger hasn't finished it... Yes it would be faster if more people were working on it - but then management becomes a major problem. The quality of the resulting classes would also be rather variable :-/ Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/957367356/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chris@amigainsight.com Wed May 03 18:52:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32374 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 18:53:03 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:53:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4003-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 18:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22649 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 18:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:53:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 18365 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:53:00 -0000 Received: from jaguars-int.cableinet.net (HELO jaguars.cableinet.net) (193.38.113.9) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:53:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 30043 invoked by uid 21); 3 May 2000 18:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO groundzero) (213.48.25.247) by jaguars with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:46:35 -0000 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Disposition-Notification-To: "Chris Green" From: "Chris Green" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:52:45 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] More Kickstart Show News Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all Here is the latest info on the Kickstart Show - hope to see you all there. Chris Green PR Officer Kickstart Amiga User Group ---------------------------------------------------- There are just a few short weeks to go until K3, the third Kickstart Amiga Show takes place. The show is being held by The Kickstart Amiga User Group (http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk), based in Ottershaw, Surrey. The Date: Saturday May 27th 2000 The Time: 12-5pm The Place: Brook Hall, Brox Road, Ottershaw, Surrey Admission: £1 per person The Kickstart Show, sponsored by Amiga Inc and Analogic, is now in its third year, and regularly attracts hundreds of show goers in search of a bargain and the chance to meet and chat with other Amiga Users. The Kickstart Amiga User Group is one of the biggest Amiga user groups in the country, with a membership diverse in age, experience and professional backgrounds. Confirmed Companies and Groups Attending K3: * Forematt Home Computing: Forematt will be demonstrating Clickboom's new game Nightlong on our 8ft projection screen as well as selling a vast array of Amiga serious software and Games. * Ramjam Consultants: Ramjam will be selling PFS3, the new Amiga disk filesystem and various other Amiga goodies, including brand-new Amiga floppy drives. * Epic: One of the largest software retailers in the Amiga market, Epic will be selling a vast array of Amiga software, including both shareware collections and commercial applications. * Digitec UK: Digitec will be selling a selection of printer supplies (ink, toner etc) and printer paper. * SEAL: Once again our good friends at SEAL will be present to promote their group and their club magazine 'Clubbed' * ASA: The Portsmouth-based Amiga Support Association will be on hand to talk to anyone from the Portsmouth area that is looking to join a usergroup. * A further 8 stands selling modems, monitors, CD-Rom drives, hard drives and a diverse collection of Amiga software and hardware. Refreshments courtesy of CashCo will also be on sale throughout the day and a Kickstart membership stand will be on hand to answer questions and handle membership enquiries from show-goers. Also on-sale at the show will be the new issue of the Kickstart magazine ‘Amiga Insight’. Amiga Inc has also provided us with a selection of Amiga merchandise that will be available on the day! If you would like to take a stand, please contact us using the details below. Do hurry, as floor space is limited! Join the Kickstart Amiga Group: Analogic is also offering a special deal to anyone who joins Kickstart at the show: Join Kickstart for just £5 and get a 3.1Gb hard drive from Analogic for just £80 - that's £50 off the normal selling price! Giveaways: Amiga Inc has again agreed to support the Kickstart Show for a second time, this year giving us TWO (yes two!) A1200HD Magic Pack bundles to give away. Each pack consists of: 1 Amiga A1200 Personal Computer (2Mb RAM) 260Mb Hard Drive Full Magic Pack software bundle pre-installed - Wordworth - Organiser - Datastore - Photogenics - Personal Paint - Scala MM300 preinstalled - Workbench 3.1 - Complete with 3.1 ROMs (Ready for AmigaOS3.5) One of these packs will be given away as a door prize that all show goers will be automatically entered for. The second pack will be given away in a separate prize draw for Kickstart members. Other prizes will be available to runners-up and to the winners of the games competitions. Demonstrations: A number of presentations designed to show you how to use and get the most out of a variety of popular Amiga applications and activities will take place throughout the day including: AmigaOS 3.5 Lightwave Using Your Amiga for Internet Access PowerPC Games and Software Amiga for Beginners Games Competitions: Our games arena will again be packed out, with two main tournaments in Multiplayer Quake and Super Skidmarks. Up for grabs for the winners of these competitions are some fantastic prizes: Quake: A 3.1Gb Hard Drive and a copy of Clickboom's newest game Nightlong. Skidmarks: A 3.1Gb Hard Drive and a joystick. Places for these competitions are limited so make sure you can take part by signing up in advance. From May 20 you can do just that by using our online sign-up form. Just go to http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk and follow the SHOW link. Prizes for the games competitions have been donated by Analogic (hard drives), Forematt (Nightlong) and Epic (joysticks). 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Go get something great! http://click.egroups.com/1/3025/2/_/490399/_/957379981/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 03 19:02:04 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30909 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 18:33:07 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4001-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 18:33:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28316 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 18:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29084 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:33:01 -0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.171) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:01 -0000 Received: from modem-15.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.59.15] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12n3xD-0000qm-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 03 May 2000 19:32:59 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 3 May 0 19:32:38 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3910D246.1013E@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:02:04 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Microvitec 1438 Monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday May 03 2000, Colin Wenzel said to Neil Williams: >> Sounds like a loose connection or perhaps even the tube is going. CW> Jeez I hate that, "The tube is going"..... CW> Now listen, irrespective of what you have heard, or what "magic" you I've heard a bang. CW> think is inside a TV/Monitor, unless you throw a damn ashtray through CW> the front if the screen, *picture tubes DON'T go !!!* I have a TV which started making 'pinging' sounds occasionally, turning red in the process. After a while of this it failed in a fairly loud way blowing the back of the tube off. If you think it's still repairable I do still have it to try. I also have another TV, used for spares, in which the horizontal electromagnet no longer works. It is attached to the tube fairly well, but again I'm all for trying to fix it. CW> They have 3 colour guns, ALL of them would have to fail simultaneously CW> to cause a black out. I'm not really a retard, honest, but I find 'the tube is going, man' a quicker way of saying the obvious. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957378783/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 03 19:10:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30941 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 18:33:26 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4002-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 19:33:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28818 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:33:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 18:33:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29304 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 18:33:18 -0000 Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.23) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 18:33:18 -0000 Received: from modem-15.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.59.15] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12n3xU-0004Dx-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 03 May 2000 19:33:16 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 3 May 0 19:32:59 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3910D247.1013F@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0320001933335.Amiga@earthlink.net> X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:10:02 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Monitor driver needed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday May 03 2000, Bgroff@earthlink.net said to All: B> can help me in finding a monitor driver for my Picssso IV graphic B> board. The driver I am looking for is for an Electrohome 1440, series B> 13 autoscan monitor. My system is an Amiga 2000 with an old Progressive The 'driver' is in the monitor manual :) Set up the modes in Prefs/Picasso96Mode to be within the details given for the monitor specs. You don't need any form of software driver for a monitor. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/2/_/490399/_/957378799/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bgroff@earthlink.net Wed May 03 22:47:19 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2273 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 2000 02:44:18 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 02:44:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3997-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2000 02:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 12569 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 02:43:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2000 02:43:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 May 2000 02:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 30123 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 02:43:48 -0000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 3 May 2000 02:43:48 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (ip64.philadelphia12.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.234.64]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA11281 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <0320001933335.Amiga@earthlink.net> X-Receipt: No X-Form: Standard.FORM To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: Organization: None (Buddy Groff, PA USA) X-Mailer: Air Mail Pro v3.11 [MUI] -- Amiga Mailer By Danny Y. Wong X-eGroups-From: bgroff@earthlink.net (Buddy Groff) From: bgroff@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 03 May 2000 22:47:19 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Monitor driver needed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I am hoping that someone out there can help me in finding a monitor driver for my Picssso IV graphic board. The driver I am looking for is for an Electrohome 1440, series 13 autoscan monitor. My system is an Amiga 2000 with an old Progressive peripheral 040 processor card and 32 MEGs memory, also can't find a newer version of their software driver any place. If anyone can direct me to a place where I may find this monitor driver, it would be appreciated. Here in the states it is very difficult to find any info for the Amiga. -- The millennium is coming, Live, Love and be happy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/2/_/490399/_/957321828/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Thu May 04 22:19:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22384 invoked by uid 504); 6 May 2000 08:34:12 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 May 2000 08:34:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4006-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2000 08:34:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3841 invoked from network); 6 May 2000 08:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 May 2000 08:34:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 May 2000 08:34:08 -0000 Received: from modem-33.rhodium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.33] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12o02I-0001DY-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 06 May 2000 09:34:06 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1197.156T1266T12804965ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 23:19:53 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] afb (Was: Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER?) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now showing at a cinema near you: "Re: [just-amiga] Re: Possibily the slowest email EVER?," starring Ian Urie... On 01-May-00, you wrote: >> Ooo, I've heard quite a few bad things about redhotand from the AFB >> mailing list. >=20 > My God.....some people are still on that list....probably rabbiting on > about DVD films and anything not even remotely connected with Amiga > and sending 150 mails a day to do it :( Traffic is down recently, normally <100 mails a day, and Ben's been keeping a firm hand when it cmes to ot waffle. Most things seem to a vaguely on- topic at present, except that garb about monitor refresh rates. Sooner, Sandy --=20 Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Q: How do you identify a blind man in a nudist colony? A: It's not hard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How about a flat, no-fee long distance rate of 6.7=A2 per min. -=20 or less? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you rates which=20 fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/3820/3/_/490399/_/957602050/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From martin@madscientist.demon.co.uk Sat May 06 00:50:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30292 invoked by uid 504); 7 May 2000 20:45:15 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:45:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4008-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2000 15:19:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 4302 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 15:19:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2000 15:19:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 May 2000 15:19:00 -0000 Received: from madscientist.demon.co.uk ([193.237.50.20]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12oSpf-0009JF-0B for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:18:59 +0000 Organization: Private User Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/Amiga NC 1.4.4 [NC2-#000002AB] - http://www.vapor.com/ From: "Martin Nicholson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 6 May 2000 01:50:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] World of Amiga 2ooo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 01 May 2000 00:09:24 +0000, Chris Seward wrote, > I heard about the World of Amiga 2ooo being held in > Birmingham, UK. After that I've heard nothing else > plus the website (http://www.worldofamiga.com) seems > to have no information what so ever. > > Has this been cancelled? Its coming very close to > the usual dates for such events and little has been > said, I really hope it hasn't been cancelled as I was > actually looking forwards to going even just for the > atmosphere. I think they're looking at holding it in the autumn this year, which would explain the lack of any concrete info at the moment Worzel -- mailto:martin@madscientist.demon.co.uk ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | Martin Nicholson |Nick Worzel on BeyondIRC #HarryHomers | | ICQ UIN 14617500 | | |___________________________|________________________________________| | | | A1200, Blizzard 040/40, 48 Megs fastram, 4.2G & 2G UW-SCSI HDs | | 3G IDE HD, 12 x SCSI CD-ROM SCSI CD-Writer in tower, | | Dynalink V90 | modem/Hypercom 3i | |____________________________________________________________________| | Using Dopus 5.8 Magellan & NetConnect2 software. | |____________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sign up for the free zZounds.com newsletter for the latest and greatest music gear savings, musician tips and hot contests. http://click.egroups.com/1/3738/3/_/490399/_/957712742/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Sat May 06 05:24:13 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18558 invoked by uid 504); 6 May 2000 05:24:49 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 May 2000 05:24:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4005-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2000 05:24:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9902 invoked from network); 6 May 2000 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 May 2000 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.12) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 May 2000 05:24:46 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust210.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.210]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18282 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:24:44 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 01:24:13 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: World of Amiga 2ooo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30-Apr-00 at 20:09:24, Chris Seward wrote these words of wisdom: > Hiya, > > I heard about the World of Amiga 2ooo being held in > Birmingham, UK. After that I've heard nothing else > plus the website (http://www.worldofamiga.com) seems > to have no information what so ever. > > Has this been cancelled? Its coming very close to > the usual dates for such events and little has been > said, I really hope it hasn't been cancelled as I was > actually looking forwards to going even just for the > atmosphere. > > Toodle Pip! There was an announcement a few days ago that AmigaInc asked them to postpone the show until this Fall, and apparently they have. I guess Amiga wants to have something substantial to show off at the event... -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ beMANY! has a new way to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month: Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/3821/3/_/490399/_/957590687/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat May 06 21:29:55 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18259 invoked by uid 504); 6 May 2000 20:36:08 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 May 2000 20:36:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4007-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2000 20:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10969 invoked from network); 6 May 2000 20:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 May 2000 20:36:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 May 2000 20:36:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18253 invoked by uid 504); 6 May 2000 20:36:03 -0000 Received: from nas01-200.137.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.200.137) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 May 2000 20:36:03 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <390F9395.FF4D@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 21:29:55 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Domain names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil,=20 On 02-May-00, you wrote: > How does this work? I can understand with Freeserve > and Freenetname that you already have webspace with > them and upload the pages to there, but how does it > work with Easily, for example? I haven't actually looked into the company Easily but for =A335 I would be 99% sure they only register the .com / .co.uk domain or whatever they register. You need to have webspace somewhere. I'm not sure if your ISP or freeserve will allow you to have your domain name pointed to your own webspace, you'd have to email them to ask. Then you will need to give easily the two DNS servers for the webhosting so the domain knows where to be pointed to. For AIO I have dedicated webspace with a specific company which isn't too expensive. Do a search for hosting etc. Don't get conned into paying =A3200+ for hosting as alot of UK companies charge faaaaar too much. I suggest looking to US companies, these are much cheaper, you do have the hastle of paying in $$$ but in the end you'll save money. Although saying this your ISP may let you point to your free space, although i'm sure not many allow this, its worth asking. If you are stuck in the end I can recommend who I host aio.co.uk with. They do have their problems but you get access to a unix/linux system which can do alot more than just host your website, they can also subdomain etc. Any specific questions feel free to ask, i'll most likely write a beginners guide for AIO possibily. >=20 > Do I pay extra to have them host a web site and store email, or do they > redirect to (e.g.) my Freeserve account? I don't know about Easily, you'll have to look at what the provide, i do expect =A335 is just for the 2 years internic charges. If you want a dedicated pop3 server for your email then expect to pay a big amount for your hosting. > As soon as I understand the principles behind hosting > & domain names I'll register what I need. I don't > want to do it and find I've wasted 35 quid... If you want a .co.uk or .org.uk then freenetnames does those free, but if you want .com/.org/.net then =A335 is cheap. I think thats cheaper than if you register direct with the US internic company who handle all top level domains (.com/.org/.net) plus you save the hastle of paying in $$$ :) Another UK company i think charges =A325 or =A335 for those domains is http://www.ezee.co.uk I don't know what they are like but i plan to register my .com domain through them for my next project as soon as i can find a .com name that isn't already taken ;) Regards --=20 Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957645367/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun May 07 19:55:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27646 invoked by uid 504); 7 May 2000 19:57:09 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 19:57:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4009-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2000 19:57:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11440 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 19:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2000 19:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2000 19:56:13 -0000 Received: from p110.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.110] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12oX9W-0004wE-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:55:47 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Hitmonchan X-Zero-Hour: in 238 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 20:55:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga Active Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks: Have any of you got this month's Amiga Active magazine? The local W.H. Smith doesn't have it; I tried yesterday, as well as the previous Saturday. Anyone else having trouble sourcing a copy, or is it just me? PS. Happy birthday, Chris! :-) -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3864/3/_/490399/_/957729424/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dlbenson@psnw.com Sun May 07 19:57:17 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7066 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 00:21:00 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 00:21:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4013-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 01:20:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 19386 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 00:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 00:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 00:20:53 -0000 Received: from dlbensonpsnw (ct3-198.psnw.com [206.43.248.198]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA00325; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005f01bfb883$4de764a0$1ef82bce@com> To: "Pure Amiga" , "just-amiga" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Don & Lynn Benson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:57:17 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Great News for Me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, Just wanted to pass along the good news that I don't have to sell my A4000 after all!!!! Boy, what a relief. Especially after getting it running a little faster and more memory. My family and some others helped me out financially so I can still afford the Miggy. I have a smile on my face again. I am still moving, so I will be in North Idaho, USA, for 2 to 4 months. Then I will be heading to Arkansas, I think, to warm up some. Hope to do some catfishing there. I will be keeping in touch as I can. Thanks for all the good wishes, jokes and help. My email address for the meantime will be drb1939@yahoo.com if anyone wants to get in touch personally. Also, many thanks to SoftwareHut for getting my Miggy going again without charging me a king's ransom. Chris at SWH is definitely 'the Man!' Take care and keep the faith in the New Amiga! -----Don ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/3/_/490399/_/957745257/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 07 20:04:16 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28104 invoked by uid 504); 7 May 2000 20:05:49 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:05:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4010-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2000 20:05:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 25887 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 20:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2000 20:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.176) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:05:46 -0000 Received: from modem-76.iridium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.58.76] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12oXJ9-0004AW-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:05:44 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:04:16 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga Active Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Amiga Active," starring Stephen Williams... On 07-May-00, you wrote: > Have any of you got this month's Amiga Active magazine? The local > W.H. Smith doesn't have it; I tried yesterday, as well as the previous > Saturday. > > Anyone else having trouble sourcing a copy, or is it just me? You sound like a likely candidate for the competition that's just been launched by Pinprint. See http://amiga.org Basically, if you can't find Amiga Active in your local area, you get put in a draw to win a 6 month sub to the mag. And you'll be more likely to fnd it locally in the future. Sooner or later, Sandy, just fine and dandy, dandy. -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957729947/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Mon May 08 14:52:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14802 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 13:59:56 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:59:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4014-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 13:59:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23022 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 13:59:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 13:59:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7203 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 13:54:21 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-186.cvx4.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally.abelgratis.com@212.1.148.186) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:54:21 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:52:46 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All at just-amiga, My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared with PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this something to learn to live with or have I missed something? DEVS: drawer has multiscan driver. Startup-sequence has a couple of lines for a VGAonly driver so I tried changing that to multiscan but no effect. setups for multiscan say ECS required.....whats that? PAL is lower resolution but I would have thought the electronics/software would be fast enough for difference not to be so obvious. Its not just academic, it takes up a lot of time over any period, inc paid-for online time. To quantify it a bit I compared times to display a typical Wordworth doc from first clicking on Ww multiscan = 75secs Pal hi-res = 28secs times approx and include using mouse to select document. I'd be grateful to know how to put it right if I have set up wrong. Ta in advance Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/957794393/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon May 08 15:19:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21921 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 15:20:07 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 15:20:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4015-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 15:20:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 12224 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 15:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 15:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 15:20:01 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp31.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.224]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA06828 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:49:55 +0930 To: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 00:49:32 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Where's Henning Tietgens? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All... Sorry if anyone got this twice, I've had trubs with my ISP. Does anyone know the email address of Henning Tietgens, the author of CassCover v1.41 on Aminet? I D/L'd all the cassette inlay utils I could find on Aminet and the printouts from this were by far the best. The only problem is, all documentation and the utility itself are all in a language that is foreign to this English (well, sort of) speaking Australian. It's much, much easier to find out if he's done an English version than me doing a TAFE course and learning a new language. (I have enough trouble with this one !!) The address in the doc is: b19b@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de and he's not to be found there. TIA for any help. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957799203/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bgroff@earthlink.net Mon May 08 16:34:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29484 invoked by uid 504); 7 May 2000 20:30:51 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:30:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4011-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2000 20:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 8141 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 20:30:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2000 20:30:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:30:46 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (ip54.philadelphia13.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.235.54]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22263 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <08200045883352.Amiga@earthlink.net> X-Receipt: No X-Form: Standard.FORM To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: Organization: None (Buddy Groff, PA USA) X-Mailer: Air Mail Pro v3.11 [MUI] -- Amiga Mailer By Danny Y. Wong X-eGroups-From: bgroff@earthlink.net (Buddy Groff) From: bgroff@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 08 May 2000 16:34:45 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Thanks for the help.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit May 7, 2000 3:58 PM Hi list members, Thanks for the info concerning my request for help in finding a monitor driver for my Electrohome 1440 monitor to use with the Picasso IV graphic card. Unfortunatly, the skimpy manual I received with the monitor only has general information for their complete range of monitors, nothing specific to the 1440. Thanks again for your help. I guess I will have to try once again to contact the company, if they haven't merged and changed their name or gone under by now. -- The millennium is coming, Live, Love and be happy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957731449/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bgroff@earthlink.net Mon May 08 16:34:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30082 invoked by uid 504); 7 May 2000 20:40:56 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:40:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4012-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2000 20:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 8141 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 20:30:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 May 2000 20:30:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.49) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 May 2000 20:30:46 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (ip54.philadelphia13.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.235.54]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22263 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <08200045883352.Amiga@earthlink.net> X-Receipt: No X-Form: Standard.FORM To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: Organization: None (Buddy Groff, PA USA) X-Mailer: Air Mail Pro v3.11 [MUI] -- Amiga Mailer By Danny Y. Wong X-eGroups-From: bgroff@earthlink.net (Buddy Groff) From: bgroff@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 08 May 2000 16:34:45 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Thanks for the help.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit May 7, 2000 3:58 PM Hi list members, Thanks for the info concerning my request for help in finding a monitor driver for my Electrohome 1440 monitor to use with the Picasso IV graphic card. Unfortunatly, the skimpy manual I received with the monitor only has general information for their complete range of monitors, nothing specific to the 1440. Thanks again for your help. I guess I will have to try once again to contact the company, if they haven't merged and changed their name or gone under by now. -- The millennium is coming, Live, Love and be happy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/3/_/490399/_/957732052/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From a.paynter@zoo.co.uk Mon May 08 17:52:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3025 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 17:52:58 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 17:52:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4016-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 17:52:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 31273 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoo4.zoo.co.uk) (194.216.59.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 17:52:44 -0000 Received: from zoo.co.uk (Harlech@d5-110.dialup.zoo.co.uk [193.192.66.110]) by zoo4.zoo.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19853 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:52:10 +0100 (BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: WLCC From: Alan Paynter MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:52:15 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe On 08-May-00, Joe callaghan wrote: > Hello All at just-amiga, > My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In > multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared with > PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this something to > learn to live with or have I missed something? > I had a multiscan only last year,I found it far better to ignore multiscan mode completely, and put Super72, or DBLpal in your devs/monitors drawer. Available (still I hope) at aminet. -- Regards (aka Harlech) Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Amiga 1260/50T.PPC 603e BVision,SVGA,12G HD,Powerflyer 56K Modem,Yamaha 400t CDR,40x CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WIN A $5,000 SHOPPING SPREE FROM RESPOND.COM Just make a request, and you'll be automatically entered to win! http://click.egroups.com/1/3577/3/_/490399/_/957808370/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 08 17:59:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3794 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 18:01:58 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 18:01:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4017-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 18:01:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 30745 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 18:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 18:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.174) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 18:01:49 -0000 Received: from modem-4.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.36.4] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12orql-0007CZ-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 08 May 2000 19:01:48 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:59:24 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Screen modes," starring Joe callaghan... On 08-May-00, you wrote: > My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In > multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared with > PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this something to > learn to live with or have I missed something? Learn to live with it. I'm afraid that multiscan pushes AGA to its limits, with having to refresh the screen at about double the rate of PAL: hi-res. This is one of the reasons why people spend lots on nice, fast graphics cards. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Taglines always lie. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3864/3/_/490399/_/957808915/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 08 19:36:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10319 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 19:27:16 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:27:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4018-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 19:27:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23964 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:27:13 -0000 Received: from modem-9.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.9] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12otBP-0005Od-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 08 May 2000 20:27:11 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 8 May 0 20:26:43 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <39177672.10886@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:36:31 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday May 08 2000, Joe Callaghan said to All: JC> My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In JC> multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared JC> with PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this JC> something to learn to live with or have I missed something? Multiscan is much slower than PAL. Any modes that show as more than "15KHz" in ScreenMode are. Something important to consider is the number of colours. In PAL, 256 colours can be /just/ about usable - in MultiScan Productivity everything slows to a crawl in 64 colours. JC> DEVS: drawer has multiscan driver. Startup-sequence has a couple of JC> lines for a VGAonly driver so I tried changing that to multiscan but no JC> effect. setups for multiscan say ECS required.....whats that? ECS = Enhanced chipset, the chips in the A500+, A3000, some A500s and A2000 and others. AGA (in the A1200, A4000) is the next step up from ECS. JC> PAL is lower resolution but I would have thought the JC> electronics/software would be fast enough for difference not to be so JC> obvious. Well, this is something you'll see on any graphics hardware, but with the built-in Amiga modes you have to remember that they are more designed for PAL/NTSC applications. Multiscan was just something put in 'because it could be done'. The problem is that multiscan is something like 4 times more demanding of the chips than PAL. The solutions are to stick to PAL, reduce the number of colours in multiscan, or get a graphics card (all of which feature much faster graphics chips). -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3864/3/_/490399/_/957814035/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mick@failes.freewire.co.uk Mon May 08 20:26:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10469 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 19:29:03 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:29:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4019-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 19:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14615 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 19:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 19:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO get.freewire.net) (195.184.229.250) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:28:12 -0000 Received: from d2-s43-139-telehouse.mistral.co.uk (Mick@d2-s43-139-telehouse.mistral.co.uk [195.184.228.139]) by get.freewire.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16263 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:17:04 +0100 To: "Just-Amiga" Message-ID: <385.163T1088T12264732mick@failes.freewire.co.uk> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Mick Failes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 8 May 2000 20:26:21 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Printer Fetish Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Has anybody tried using 2 printers from thier Amiga ? Ive got a Canon BJC250 connected to my Hypercomm card but would like to have a dot matrix on my internal port, anyone know how to set up the printer prefs (OS 3.5)? The only reason for doing this is cos im a skin flint & dont want to waste ink just for a dir listing :) Ta very much :) Regards Mick. Forgive and Remember. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957814135/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From neil.ives@btinternet.com Mon May 08 20:28:03 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10663 invoked by uid 504); 8 May 2000 19:31:30 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:31:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4020-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 19:31:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17888 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 19:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 19:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rhenium.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.93) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:31:23 -0000 Received: from host62-7-66-58.btinternet.com ([62.7.66.58] helo=btinternet.com) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12otEg-0001kR-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:30:35 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Neil Ives MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:28:03 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joe On 08-May-00, you wrote: > Hello All at just-amiga, > My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In > multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared with > PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this something to > learn to live with or have I missed something? I don't know if Ww loading is slow cos I use Final Writer, (just tried it - It took 10 seconds to start FW then choose and load a letter). I just thought I'd let you know how I have my A1200 set up. you might like to try doing the same thing. I also have a Microvitec multiscan monitor. I found a better monitor driver for Super 72 Hi Res Interlaced. I use 800x600 in 64 colours for Workbench. I don't need a flicker fixer gizmo, the display is rock steady and comfortable and not too slow with 64 colours. If anyone wants a copy of this driver let me know. BTW I have an 040/40 accelerator and 32Mb ram. Regards -- Neil Ives Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord 85. 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Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/3863/3/_/490399/_/957814286/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Tue May 09 00:54:41 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30609 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 00:17:06 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 00:17:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4021-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 00:17:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29360 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 00:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 00:04:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 00:04:14 -0000 Received: from icon-3.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-3.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.3]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10892 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:04:32 -0500 (CDT) To: "Alan Paynter" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1311.163T2098T11343843wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 8 May 2000 18:54:41 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08-May-00 11:52:15 a.paynter@zoo.co.uk Alan Paynter wrote: >Hi Joe >On 08-May-00, Joe callaghan wrote: >> Hello All at just-amiga, >> My monitor is a Microvitec multiscan (computer is A1200+68030/40). In >> multiscan productivity screenmode all operations seem slow compared >> with PAL hi-res mode, which is more or less instantaneous. Is this >> something to learn to live with or have I missed something? >> >I had a multiscan only last year,I found it far better to ignore >multiscan mode completely, and put Super72, or DBLpal in your >devs/monitors drawer. Available (still I hope) at aminet. Has anyone else tried HighGFX from AmiNET? I use it for a lot of stuff on my A1200 and it doesn't seem all that slow here. It does flicker a bit, but that's not a problem for me. It goes all the way up to 256 colors and supports HAM8 and screen dragging, of course. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 8-May-0 18:48:15 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Acts 26:2 "King Agrippa, I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957831422/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Tue May 09 04:24:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2853 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 03:24:16 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 03:24:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4022-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 03:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 28040 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 03:24:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 03:24:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 03:24:11 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as1-dial171.pntc.mi.voyager.net [216.93.44.171]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.10.0/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id e493S0H24719 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 23:28:00 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <385.163T1088T12264732mick@failes.freewire.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Jack York MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:24:07 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Printer Fetish Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mick On 08-May-00, Mick Failes wrote: > Hi > > Has anybody tried using 2 printers from thier Amiga ? I have two printers connected. I am using the two ports on my Hypercom and the parallel port. One of the Hypercom cables and the parallel port cable goes to a switch box so I can still use them both. I have one old program that demands to use the parallel port thus the strange setup. But it works fine. > Ive got a Canon BJC250 connected to my Hypercomm card but would like to > have a dot matrix on my internal port, anyone know how to set up the > printer prefs (OS 3.5)? When you start printer preferences you select the printer name and the port. If you use the Hypercom port you will need to check the Use custom device gadget.. When it is set up the way you want it, save it. You can do this by just clicking the save gadget. If you do this you will need to restart the prefs program (I think) since it exits after saving. Or, you can use the saveas option. This is a little more involved than you may want to know about. If you do let me know. You are probably better off just clicking on the save button and restarting the program. Then for the next printer setup, click on the Printer Device Unit gadget at the top of the printer prefs window and choose unit 1 (or any other unit). Go through the same setup as before and save it. Now when you want to switch printers just start the prefs program, select which printer you want to use by using the Printer Device Unit gadget and then clicking on the use gadget. Note that there is a bug in the prefes program that won't let you set which printer to use via a cli command. This is useful if you want to set up a DOpus button to switch printers with just a click. I reported the problem and was told it would be fixed with the next Boing Bag release. I hope this helps. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957842654/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mick@failes.freewire.co.uk Tue May 09 18:05:14 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18317 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 17:12:56 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 17:12:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4023-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 17:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25282 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 17:07:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 17:07:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO get.freewire.net) (195.184.229.250) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 17:07:09 -0000 Received: from d2-s46-142-telehouse.mistral.co.uk (Mick@d2-s46-142-telehouse.mistral.co.uk [195.184.228.142]) by get.freewire.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA24031 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:56:02 +0100 To: "Just-Amiga" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1045.164T738T10853950mick@failes.freewire.co.uk> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Mick Failes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 9 May 2000 18:5:14 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Printer Fetish Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jack, on 09-May-00 04:24:07 you wrote >> Ive got a Canon BJC250 connected to my Hypercomm card but would like to >> have a dot matrix on my internal port, anyone know how to set up the >> printer prefs (OS 3.5)? >Then for the next printer setup, click on the Printer Device Unit >gadget at the top of the printer prefs window and choose unit 1 >(or any other unit). Go through the same setup as before and save it. Thanks, this is exactly what i wanted to know. >Note that there is a bug in the prefes program that won't let you >set which printer to use via a cli command. This is useful if you >want to set up a DOpus button to switch printers with just a click. >I reported the problem and was told it would be fixed with the next >Boing Bag release. Would it not be possible to use a dosdriver mountlist to say set up a device called PRT1: or whatever? I havent got my sticky mits on this second printer yet, so i have no way of trying it at the moment, probably will by the end of the week. Thanks again for your help. Mick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/3/_/490399/_/957892368/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 09 19:19:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29113 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 19:32:21 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 19:32:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4024-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 19:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 20138 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 19:31:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 19:31:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.175) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 19:31:35 -0000 Received: from modem-38.platinum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.58.166] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12pFjB-0001Fh-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 09 May 2000 20:31:33 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.platinum.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 9 May 0 20:31:02 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3918C8E2.109FA@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:19:29 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] A4000 batteries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right, I've tried to replace the battery on my A4000T with a battery from a PC, but it appears to be soldered on (it's a button battery! how could they do this to me?). Not only that, but they're different batteries anyway (I thought perhaps it was standardised). Could anyone please point me to a step-by-step guide to replacing it or connecting a battery to the pinouts below it. Same for an A4000D too. What I really need is known part numbers so I get the right things to solder on. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Save up to 54% on Quest & Kelty tents, backpacks, sleeping bags and outdoor gear. FREE Shipping and a 30 Day Money-Back Guarantee at screaminghotdeals.com http://click.egroups.com/1/4012/3/_/490399/_/957900738/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From johnnie@walker-whisky.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 09 20:21:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 476 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 20:20:41 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 20:20:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4026-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 21:20:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8827 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 20:20:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 20:20:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jaguars.cableinet.net) (193.38.113.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 20:20:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6245 invoked by uid 21); 9 May 2000 17:03:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO johnscomputer) (194.117.153.79) by jaguars with SMTP; 9 May 2000 17:03:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bfb9f4$342baea0$4f9975c2@johnscomputer> To: References: <3918C8E2.109FA@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "John Walker" From: "John Walker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:21:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A4000 batteries Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0" ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Neil, the battery can be obtained from Radiospares, I`ve changed mine twice, = you have to remove the motherboard from the case and de-solder the old = one, the new one needs to be solered in place. The battery has 3 tags on = it and it is polarised, so it will only fit one wat on the board. It`s a lithium coin cell type 2330, the rs part no is 597-368 and its = price is =A32.43 + vat. You may be able to obtain this from Maplin as = well. If you need one the I can get you one and post it off to you. John ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk=20 To: just-amiga@egroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: [just-amiga] A4000 batteries Right, I've tried to replace the battery on my A4000T with a battery = from a PC, but it appears to be soldered on (it's a button battery! how could = they do this to me?). Not only that, but they're different batteries anyway = (I thought perhaps it was standardised). Could anyone please point me to a step-by-step guide to replacing it = or connecting a battery to the pinouts below it. Same for an A4000D too. = What I really need is known part numbers so I get the right things to solder = on. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 = 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Neil,
 
the battery can be obtained from Radiospar= es, I`ve=20 changed mine twice, you have to remove the motherboard from the case and=20 de-solder the old one, the new one needs to be solered in place. The batter= y has=20 3 tags on it and it is polarised, so it will only fit one wat on the=20 board.
 
It`s a lithium coin cell type 2330, the rs= part no=20 is 597-368 and its price is =A32.43 + vat. You may be able to obtain this f= rom=20 Maplin as well.
 
If you need one the I can get you one and = post it=20 off to you.
 
John
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk=
To: just-amiga@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:19 P= M
Subject: [just-amiga] A4000=20 batteries


Right, I've tried to replace the battery on my A40= 00T=20 with a battery from a
PC, but it appears to be soldered on (it's a but= ton=20 battery! how could they do
this to me?).  Not only that, but they= 're=20 different batteries anyway (I
thought perhaps it was=20 standardised).

Could anyone please point me to a step-by-step guid= e to=20 replacing it or
connecting a battery to the pinouts below it.  Sa= me=20 for an A4000D too.  What I
really need is known part numbers so I= get=20 the right things to solder on.


--
Neil Williams, Euroland.&= nbsp;=20 mailto:neil@aio.co.uk  ICQ:18223711 2:442/107
AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk   &= nbsp;=20 TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co= .uk
Zeus=20 Developments, BBS s/w:      http://www.bleach.demon.co.u= k/zeus/
AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk=20
3D""
AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0-- From johnnie@walker-whisky.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 09 20:21:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 459 invoked by uid 504); 9 May 2000 20:20:34 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 20:20:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4025-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2000 21:20:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21213 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 20:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 May 2000 20:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jaguars.cableinet.net) (193.38.113.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 May 2000 20:20:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6178 invoked by uid 21); 9 May 2000 17:03:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO johnscomputer) (194.117.153.79) by jaguars with SMTP; 9 May 2000 17:03:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01bfb9f4$2b4404e0$4f9975c2@johnscomputer> To: References: <3918C8E2.109FA@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "John Walker" From: "John Walker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:21:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A4000 batteries Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0" ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Neil, the battery can be obtained from Radiospares, I`ve changed mine twice, = you have to remove the motherboard from the case and de-solder the old = one, the new one needs to be solered in place. The battery has 3 tags on = it and it is polarised, so it will only fit one wat on the board. It`s a lithium coin cell type 2330, the rs part no is 597-368 and its = price is =A32.43 + vat. You may be able to obtain this from Maplin as = well. If you need one the I can get you one and post it off to you. John ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk=20 To: just-amiga@egroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: [just-amiga] A4000 batteries Right, I've tried to replace the battery on my A4000T with a battery = from a PC, but it appears to be soldered on (it's a button battery! how could = they do this to me?). Not only that, but they're different batteries anyway = (I thought perhaps it was standardised). Could anyone please point me to a step-by-step guide to replacing it = or connecting a battery to the pinouts below it. Same for an A4000D too. = What I really need is known part numbers so I get the right things to solder = on. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 = 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Neil,
 
the battery can be obtained from Radiospar= es, I`ve=20 changed mine twice, you have to remove the motherboard from the case and=20 de-solder the old one, the new one needs to be solered in place. The batter= y has=20 3 tags on it and it is polarised, so it will only fit one wat on the=20 board.
 
It`s a lithium coin cell type 2330, the rs= part no=20 is 597-368 and its price is =A32.43 + vat. You may be able to obtain this f= rom=20 Maplin as well.
 
If you need one the I can get you one and = post it=20 off to you.
 
John
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk=
To: just-amiga@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:19 P= M
Subject: [just-amiga] A4000=20 batteries


Right, I've tried to replace the battery on my A40= 00T=20 with a battery from a
PC, but it appears to be soldered on (it's a but= ton=20 battery! how could they do
this to me?).  Not only that, but they= 're=20 different batteries anyway (I
thought perhaps it was=20 standardised).

Could anyone please point me to a step-by-step guid= e to=20 replacing it or
connecting a battery to the pinouts below it.  Sa= me=20 for an A4000D too.  What I
really need is known part numbers so I= get=20 the right things to solder on.


--
Neil Williams, Euroland.&= nbsp;=20 mailto:neil@aio.co.uk  ICQ:18223711 2:442/107
AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk   &= nbsp;=20 TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co= .uk
Zeus=20 Developments, BBS s/w:      http://www.bleach.demon.co.u= k/zeus/
AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk=20
3D""
AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFB9FC.8BDBD3C0-- From foulkrod@cybertours.com Wed May 10 11:04:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3682 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 21:11:19 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:11:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4028-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 22:11:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16809 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 21:11:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 21:11:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO transporter.cybertours.com) (208.130.42.17) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:11:16 -0000 Received: from cybertours.com (robert@kenn004b-p3-166.cybertours.com [208.51.216.166]) by transporter.cybertours.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA21278; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:11:14 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: RobertMillerFoulkrod , Barbara Hero Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2(unreg) - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck From: Robert Miller Foulkrod MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:04:54 +0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] 50-cycles&USA-Amigas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Amiga Lovers, I have an Amiga A600HD computer which I hope to use during a tour of Europe, including Bulgaria. I know that I may have to step down the voltage from 220 to 110 volts. I have an adapter with which to do that. The computer is used to generate interval tones for our harmonic keyboard. The A600 generates specific-frequency, sine-wave tones. My question is: Will my A600HD run correctly with 50-cycle electricity? Thank you, in advance, for your wisdom on this subject. Bless You with Divine Inspiration, The Robert Part of Our Creator 496 Loop Road, Wells, Maine 04090-7622, USA Voice & Fax: 207-646-7950 http://www.cybertours.com/~robert/cocreate.html Mailto: foulkrod@cybertours.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bids starting at $7 for thousands of products - uBid.com http://click.egroups.com/1/3027/3/_/490399/_/957993076/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From eddie@4-moores.co.uk Wed May 10 15:37:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4416 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 21:21:29 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:21:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4029-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 21:21:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22107 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 21:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 21:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8662 invoked by uid 101); 10 May 2000 20:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redhotant.com) (194.131.241.46) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 10 May 2000 20:59:27 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Eddie Moore MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:37:35 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Domain names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris On 06-May-00, Chris Seward wrote: >> How does this work? I can understand with Freeserve >> and Freenetname that you already have webspace with >> them and upload the pages to there, but how does it >> work with Easily, for example? > I haven't actually looked into the company Easily but > for =A335 I would be 99% sure they only register the > .com / .co.uk domain or whatever they register. No, that's an all-inclusive price, for a period of two years. After that, = the renewal fee would be another 35 UKP, again for a period of two years. > You need to have webspace somewhere. I'm not sure if > your ISP or freeserve will allow you to have your > domain name pointed to your own webspace, you'd have > to email them to ask. I don't think that Freeserve do or, at least, if they do, they may well cha= rge you for doing so. RedHotAnt do, and if you've bought the Advanced or Superior options, it's included in the price. > Don't get conned into paying =A3200+ for hosting as alot > of UK companies charge faaaaar too much. I suggest > looking to US companies, these are much cheaper, you > do have the hastle of paying in $$$ but in the end you'll > save money. If all that you want is web space within your own domain, with no fancy bel= ls or whistles, then a combination of Easily and RHA is a good, cost-effetctiv= e way to go. That's the route that I went, so I'm probably a bit biased B-) =20 >> Do I pay extra to have them host a web site and store email, or do they >> redirect to (e.g.) my Freeserve account? > I don't know about Easily, you'll have to look at what > the provide, i do expect =A335 is just for the 2 years > internic charges. For the 35 squids (or a tenner, if you go for a *.co.uk* address), Easily w= ill redirect calls to either your domain name or e-mail address, to any account of your choice. They will also point your domain to someone else's name servers (as they did for me, with RHA), or they will transfer the name to a= n ISP of your choice. As I said, that's all inclusive of the original purcha= se price; there are no hidden transfer fees, for example. =20 Regards, Eddie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bids starting at $7 for thousands of products - uBid.com http://click.egroups.com/1/3027/3/_/490399/_/957993686/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Wed May 10 19:08:13 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22425 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 18:17:52 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 18:17:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4027-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 18:17:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 18801 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 18:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 18:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 18:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6388 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 18:10:18 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-47.cvx1.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally.abelgratis.com@212.1.136.47) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 10 May 2000 18:10:18 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:08:13 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] re; Screen modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello j-a Egroups, Many thanks for help re screen modes 08-05-00 from: Neil Ives Alan Paynter Neil Williams Sandy Brownlee I don't know if Ww loading is slow cos I use Final Writer, (just tried it - It took 10 seconds to start FW then choose and load a letter). Neil Ives /Sounds like FW a bit faster. The example I used was long winded, using/ /several screens on the way - wanted that for easier to time. / I found it far better to ignore >multiscan mode completely, and put Super72, or DBLpal in your >devs/monitors drawer. Available (still I hope) at aminet. Alan Paynter /Found I had those drivers. Super 72 worked out best/ Something important to consider is the number of colours. In PAL, 256 colours can be /just/ about usable - in MultiScan Productivity everything slows to a crawl in 64 colours. Neil Williams /Reducing the number of colours from 256 to 64 had a lot more effect than / /changing drivers/ Learn to live with it. Sandy /Sorry you had to talk about refresh rates!! :-) (re your mail to j-a last/ /week) / Thanks again for all the info. Its not a perfect world but its starting to make sense. I now know what I am doing in this area of the Amiga. Regards Joe -- A1200+68030/40. 32Mb Fast Ram. 500Mb HD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bids starting at $7 for thousands of products - uBid.com http://click.egroups.com/1/3027/3/_/490399/_/957982669/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed May 10 22:35:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7508 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 22:03:37 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 22:03:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4031-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 22:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11367 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 21:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 21:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:35:19 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-010.enterprise.net [212.161.113.10]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18657 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 22:35:16 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:35:10 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 50-cycles&USA-Amigas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > My question is: > Will my A600HD run correctly with 50-cycle electricity? Yes. If you're using a telly, it may not support NTSC (or pal, whichever way round you're doing it), so you may need to go into the early startup, press a key to change it, and then in display options change the default screen. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Pleasure, at the fairground, on the way... -- Simply Red ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember four years of good friends, bad clothes, explosive chemistry experiments. http://click.egroups.com/1/4051/3/_/490399/_/957996207/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed May 10 22:35:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7052 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 21:58:24 -0000 Received: from jj.egroups.com (208.50.144.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:58:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4030-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 21:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 11367 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 21:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 21:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 21:35:19 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-010.enterprise.net [212.161.113.10]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18657 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 22:35:16 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:35:10 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 50-cycles&USA-Amigas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > My question is: > Will my A600HD run correctly with 50-cycle electricity? Yes. If you're using a telly, it may not support NTSC (or pal, whichever way round you're doing it), so you may need to go into the early startup, press a key to change it, and then in display options change the default screen. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Pleasure, at the fairground, on the way... -- Simply Red ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *--- FREE VOICEMAIL FOR YOUR HOME PHONE! ---* With eVoice Now you can keep in touch with clients, vendors, co-workers, friends and family ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Sign Up Today for FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3426/3/_/490399/_/957994821/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed May 10 23:12:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9196 invoked by uid 504); 10 May 2000 22:27:16 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 May 2000 22:27:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4032-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2000 22:27:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21250 invoked from network); 10 May 2000 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2000 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 May 2000 22:12:10 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-010.enterprise.net [212.161.113.10]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26642 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 23:12:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:12:05 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 50-cycles&USA-Amigas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, Huh? I didn't send it twice... (hmm, which one's the evil twin? :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I no longer fear hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Up to 60% OFF food! Buy Now and Shipping is Free. http://click.egroups.com/1/4016/3/_/490399/_/957997618/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drb1939@yahoo.com Thu May 11 03:34:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20254 invoked by uid 504); 11 May 2000 03:38:17 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 May 2000 03:38:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4033-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2000 03:38:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20298 invoked from network); 11 May 2000 03:38:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 May 2000 03:38:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 May 2000 03:38:12 -0000 Received: from dlbensonpsnw (ct3-22.psnw.com [206.43.248.22]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA13480; Wed, 10 May 2000 20:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01bfbafa$6299cc20$16f82bce@com> To: "just-amiga" , "Pure Amiga" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-eGroups-From: "Don & Lynn Benson" From: "Don & Lynn Benson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:34:02 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Help with A4000 jumper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, Can some email me directly with the jumper to change an A4000 from the 030 daughter board to a 040/25 daughter board. Sure appreciate the help. I won't see it on the list as I am off list right now. This is for a friend. Thanks ever so much. -----Don ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Double your manufacturer's warranty on all computers, home appliances, and electronics AND win up to $500 towards your purchase! http://click.egroups.com/1/3749/3/_/490399/_/958016293/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Thu May 11 19:33:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20805 invoked by uid 504); 11 May 2000 19:01:46 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 May 2000 19:01:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4034-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 May 2000 19:01:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20066 invoked from network); 11 May 2000 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 May 2000 19:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 May 2000 19:00:10 -0000 Received: from modem-4.polonium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.61.132] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12pyBq-0001Yv-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:00:07 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.polonium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Thu, 11 May 0 19:59:32 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <391B656E.10CD0@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:33:46 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] 50-cycles&USA-Amigas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday May 10 2000, Robert Miller Foulkrod said to All: RMF> I have an Amiga A600HD computer which I hope to use during a tour RMF> of Europe, including Bulgaria. RMF> I know that I may have to step down the voltage from 220 to 110 RMF> volts. I have an adapter with which to do that. In the EU the voltage is 230 volts, give or take. Bulgaria I have no idea about though. You're not totally clear though; do you have a 110v/60Hz A600? RMF> The computer is used to generate interval tones for our harmonic RMF> keyboard. The A600 generates specific-frequency, sine-wave tones. This may be a problem depending on the program used: basically, keep the machine set to an NTSC screen mode if you hear differences when using PAL. Most TVs and monitors handle both. RMF> My question is: RMF> Will my A600HD run correctly with 50-cycle electricity? Erm. I defer. On the A2000/A500 there are switches on the motherboard to set the system to run with 50 or 60Hz supplies, but I don't know if that affects the /usability/ of the machine or just the genlocking capability (which depends on accurate timing). -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Up to 60% OFF food! Buy Now and Shipping is Free. http://click.egroups.com/1/4016/3/_/490399/_/958071685/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Fri May 12 13:43:00 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13303 invoked by uid 504); 12 May 2000 12:42:45 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 12 May 2000 12:42:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4035-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2000 12:42:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19899 invoked from network); 12 May 2000 12:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 May 2000 12:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.mx.voyager.net) (216.93.66.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 May 2000 12:42:38 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as1-dial57.pntc.mi.voyager.net [216.93.44.57]) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.10.0/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id e4CCgXC15061 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:42:34 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1045.164T738T10853950mick@failes.freewire.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Jack York MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:43:00 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Printer Fetish Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mick On 09-May-00, Mick Failes wrote: > Thanks, this is exactly what i wanted to know. Glad I could help. >> Note that there is a bug in the prefes program that won't let you >> set which printer to use via a cli command. This is useful if you >> want to set up a DOpus button to switch printers with just a click. >> I reported the problem and was told it would be fixed with the next >> Boing Bag release. > > Would it not be possible to use a dosdriver mountlist to say set up a > device called PRT1: or whatever? I havent got my sticky mits on this > second printer yet, so i have no way of trying it at the moment, probably > will by the end of the week. I don't think so but I have never tried it. When you are entering the command I mentioned above you are just running the printer prefs program with various arguments. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958135361/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Fri May 12 20:26:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15818 invoked by uid 504); 12 May 2000 20:26:49 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 12 May 2000 20:26:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4036-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 May 2000 20:26:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16671 invoked from network); 12 May 2000 20:26:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 May 2000 20:26:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 May 2000 20:26:43 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp3.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.196]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA27920 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 05:56:43 +0930 To: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 05:56:53 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All... Can anyone aid me in finding the current email or web address of Denis GOUNELLE the author of APrf and co-author of ABackup? The address from both the above (denis.gounelle@ramses.fdn.org) doesn't seem to apply anymore. or Reza ELGHAZI (reza.elghazi@psygnosis.co.uk) co-author of ABackup with Denis? Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources -- Albert Einstein *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/958163205/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat May 13 11:49:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 17082 invoked by uid 504); 13 May 2000 11:39:44 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 May 2000 11:39:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4037-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2000 11:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29887 invoked from network); 13 May 2000 11:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 May 2000 11:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 May 2000 11:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 17074 invoked by uid 504); 13 May 2000 11:39:35 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.104.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.104) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 May 2000 11:39:35 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:49:57 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Spam, my story :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Just thought i'd tell my interesting spam story, its not too long but its really p**s annoying. Last sunday i got more than a bit annoyed at receiving emails from a k@pcuk.co.uk I had never asked to receive them and had been for a long time so i reported it to, abuse@pcuk.co.uk THIS was my first mistake, i didn't think that they could actually own the domain pcuk.co.uk and so emailing abuse@pcuk.co.uk just sent the email to them. I got a reply from a alicia.@pcuk.net is the surname that I can't remember. The reply was telling me the users account had been closed etc. With that email I received two emails saying i'd sign up on two different sites, which i can assure you I hadn't, this week I have receivied about 8-10 more for different websites that I've never even visited, nor wish to probably. Luckily most require me to reply to confim my subscription, but still, I am now being targetted. Now you could say anyone is targetting me, but when I wrote to abuse@pcuk.co.uk I only used my first name and ALL the subscriptions to the sites are ONLY signed up with the name "Chris", no surname or anything which is why it makes me 100% sure that it is these same people donig this to me. A mistake the "person" made is when they signed up on some sites the IP of the person who signed up was emailed to me with the confimation, and so a friend who will remain nameless did a scan on the IP and found it is a dynamic or static IP belonging to a customer on NTL (the cable company) internet provider, in the United Kingdom and so this links in with the pcuk.co.uk as it being a uk address. I am going to report this all to my ISP but if anyone has any suggestions or help otherwise, then i'd be MOST thankful. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958217982/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bunton@acay.com.au Sat May 13 13:15:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20766 invoked by uid 504); 13 May 2000 13:15:31 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 May 2000 13:15:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4038-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2000 13:15:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3446 invoked from network); 13 May 2000 13:15:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 May 2000 13:15:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 May 2000 13:15:23 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912411.acay.com.au [203.19.124.11]) by hamtic.acay.com.au (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA71651 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:18:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <391D5563.63CB4E6A@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US,pdf To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Frank Bunton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:15:15 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam, my story :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'Day Chris and all others The way I handle spam is to report it all at this site:- http://spamcop.net/ When you get there read all the conditions and click on:- I understand and agree Then a bit more to read and enter your e-mail address. No worries there - they are legit. Then they send you your own personal URL reporting adress. Bookmark it. You then go to that URL every time you want to report spam. All it takes is to copy the whole spam e-mail (including ALL headers) into a form on the page and click on "PROCESS SPAM" Their system analyses the spam and comes up with a number of address to which reports will be sent. NOT JUST ONE ADDRESS!! They show all addresses to which report is sent Then you click on SEND SPAM REPORTS and away they go. All very simple and I get the feeling that I am getting less spam since I started doing this! (But maybe that is just my imagination) In the case you talk about, I think that:- pcuk.co.uk would be hosted by some other ISP and SPAMCOP would ferret out that ISP and report it to them, not just to pcuk.co.uk Chris Seward wrote: > > Hi All, > > Just thought i'd tell my interesting spam story, its not > too long but its really p**s annoying. > > Last sunday i got more than a bit annoyed at receiving > emails from a > > k@pcuk.co.uk > > I had never asked to receive them and had been for a > long time so i reported it to, > > abuse@pcuk.co.uk > > THIS was my first mistake, i didn't think that they could > actually own the domain pcuk.co.uk and so emailing > abuse@pcuk.co.uk just sent the email to them. I got a > reply from a > > alicia.@pcuk.net > > is the surname that I can't remember. The > reply was telling me the users account had been closed > etc. > > With that email I received two emails saying i'd sign > up on two different sites, which i can assure you I > hadn't, this week I have receivied about 8-10 more > for different websites that I've never even visited, > nor wish to probably. Luckily most require me to reply > to confim my subscription, but still, I am now being > targetted. > > Now you could say anyone is targetting me, but when I > wrote to abuse@pcuk.co.uk I only used my first name and > ALL the subscriptions to the sites are ONLY signed up > with the name "Chris", no surname or anything which is > why it makes me 100% sure that it is these same people > donig this to me. > > A mistake the "person" made is when they signed up on > some sites the IP of the person who signed up was > emailed to me with the confimation, and so a friend > who will remain nameless did a scan on the IP and found > it is a dynamic or static IP belonging to a customer > on NTL (the cable company) internet provider, in the > United Kingdom and so this links in with the pcuk.co.uk > as it being a uk address. > > I am going to report this all to my ISP but if anyone > has any suggestions or help otherwise, then i'd be > MOST thankful. > > Toodle Pip! > -- > Chris Seward > *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 > *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 > *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga > Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: > http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958217982/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk -- ------------------------------------------------ Join the fight against SPAM! Go to http://www.caube.org.au/ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- mailto:bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton Home of:- Bunton Family Tree Paton Family Tree AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958223727/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bastid@wt.net Sat May 13 14:08:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22915 invoked by uid 504); 13 May 2000 14:14:26 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 May 2000 14:14:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4039-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2000 14:14:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 23079 invoked from network); 13 May 2000 14:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 May 2000 14:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sluggo.win95sux2.com) (216.119.163.206) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 May 2000 14:14:22 -0000 Received: from wt.net (IDENT:steve@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sluggo.win95sux2.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02089 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 09:08:12 -0500 Sender: steve@sluggo.win95sux2.com Message-ID: <391D61CB.911205A0@wt.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: S C Rigler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:08:12 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam, my story :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read the other post on spamcop.net which sounds like a very interesting prospect that I'm considering trying, but what I've been doing until now is this... NEVER reply to the spam mails you get. If your reply actually gets to a live mail box then you are just letting the spammer know that somebody reads the mail at the address he just spammed. View the header of the offending message. You should see something like this somewhere in the header: from myrop (AC8E6AFC.ipt.aol.com [172.142.106.252]) by amhotsv01.amhot.co.jp... This is out of a message with a reply to of "ielauty@calvacom.fr" What has happened is the spammer is using an AOL dialup account to send messages through an smtp server in the amhot.co.jp domain. In this case sending a message to "abuse@aol.com" might fix it, but I never actually have heard a reply from them before. Other ISP's are much better about it and will give you a status as they nail the spammer. Many times it's not always this easy as spammers will sometimes use an smtp server with a "HELO localhost" in which case you'll never find out who sent it. because you won't find the originating IP address. -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/4052/3/_/490399/_/958227264/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From lairfight@softhome.net Sat May 13 16:19:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23092 invoked by uid 504); 13 May 2000 14:19:35 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 May 2000 14:19:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4040-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 May 2000 14:19:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24229 invoked from network); 13 May 2000 14:19:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 May 2000 14:19:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailg.telia.com) (194.22.194.26) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 May 2000 14:19:31 -0000 Received: from survivor.localdomain (t1o79p107.telia.com [62.20.200.107]) by mailg.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16257 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (lft@localhost) by survivor.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00521 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:19:42 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: survivor.localdomain: lft owned process doing -bs X-Sender: lft@localhost To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <391D5563.63CB4E6A@acay.com.au> Message-ID: From: Linus Akesson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 16:19:39 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam, my story :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In accordance with the prophecy, Frank Bunton uttered: > G'Day Chris and all others > > The way I handle spam is to report it all at this site:- > > http://spamcop.net/ > snip I'm sure that's a great site. However, for those who prefer an email interface, please have a look at www.abuse.net. Once you sign up, you can send mail to site@abuse.net, where site is the name of the site you wish to report. Example: pcuk.co.uk@abuse.net. In the message body I usually include about 2 lines with "The following mail was sent to me, and I consider it spam. Please take appropriate action.", followed by the original mail (with headers!). Then abuse.net will send the mail along to whatever addresses will be appropriate (probably including abuse@pcuk.co.uk if they've never heard of that site before, since abuse@site is the default). But remember to send your mail to many sites (as in site@abuse.net, site2@abuse.net), actually to every site you find in the Received: lines in the mail headers. My experience of abuse.net is that it works great. Linus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (The numbers in this quote are a bit old. The moral is still valid.) Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has an 800 MHz processor, 512 megabytes of RAM, 1500 gigabytes of disk storage, a screen resolution of 2048 x 2048 pixels, relies entirely on voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300. What's the first question that the computer community asks? "Is it PC compatible?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CLICK HERE***SPECIAL OFFER***$60 in FREE calls ***SPECIAL OFFER***CLICK HERE http://click.egroups.com/1/4127/3/_/490399/_/958227573/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bunton@acay.com.au Mon May 15 00:06:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30378 invoked by uid 504); 15 May 2000 00:06:27 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 May 2000 00:06:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4041-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 May 2000 00:06:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 957 invoked from network); 15 May 2000 00:06:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 May 2000 00:06:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 May 2000 00:06:17 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912474.acay.com.au [203.19.124.74]) by hamtic.acay.com.au (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22416 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:09:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <391F3F73.F14898F2@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US,pdf To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Frank Bunton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:06:11 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam, my story :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'Day Linus et al The thing I like about SpamCop is that it decides on a number of address to which to send the report. For example, one I am doing right now was:- From: success@freeinet.com Reply to: starluckcasino@mail.com But Spamcop made out reports to be sent to the folloiwng four addresses, none of which appear at first glance to be related to freeinet.com:- Spam Recycling Center src@admin.spamcop.net Source of email abuse@mindspring.net fire41@bigfoot.com - Email host abuse@bigfoot.com http://www.starluckcasino.com/slcasino/links/4540.... - Web host jcrescenzi@colosseum.com which makes me think that just sending it to abuse@freeinet.com may not work!! Linus Akesson wrote: > > In accordance with the prophecy, Frank Bunton uttered: > > > G'Day Chris and all others > > > > The way I handle spam is to report it all at this site:- > > > > http://spamcop.net/ > > > snip > > I'm sure that's a great site. However, for those who prefer an email > interface, please have a look at www.abuse.net. Once you sign up, you can send > mail to site@abuse.net, where site is the name of the site you wish to report. > Example: pcuk.co.uk@abuse.net. In the message body I usually include about 2 > lines with "The following mail was sent to me, and I consider it spam. Please > take appropriate action.", followed by the original mail (with headers!). Then > abuse.net will send the mail along to whatever addresses will be appropriate > (probably including abuse@pcuk.co.uk if they've never heard of that site > before, since abuse@site is the default). > > But remember to send your mail to many sites (as in site@abuse.net, > site2@abuse.net), actually to every site you find in the Received: lines in > the mail headers. > > My experience of abuse.net is that it works great. > > Linus > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > (The numbers in this quote are a bit old. The moral is still valid.) > > Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has > an 800 MHz processor, 512 megabytes of RAM, 1500 gigabytes of disk > storage, a screen resolution of 2048 x 2048 pixels, relies entirely on > voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300. > What's the first question that the computer community asks? > > "Is it PC compatible?" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CLICK HERE***SPECIAL OFFER***$60 in FREE calls > ***SPECIAL OFFER***CLICK HERE > http://click.egroups.com/1/4127/3/_/490399/_/958227573/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk -- ------------------------------------------------ Join the fight against SPAM! Go to http://www.caube.org.au/ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- mailto:bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton Home of:- Bunton Family Tree Paton Family Tree AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/958349179/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Wed May 17 00:15:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30186 invoked by uid 504); 17 May 2000 00:16:45 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 00:16:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4042-958522587-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2000 00:16:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8369 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 00:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 May 2000 00:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 May 2000 00:16:25 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp36.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.229]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA24569; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:46:25 +0930 To: I-Amiga Main , JAM Mail List , Mike Leavitt Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:45:39 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] GVP revisited Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Mike... On 16-May-00, you wrote: >> BTW... I took your suggestion and emailed Dan at both the addresses >> below, twice as a matter of fact... >> >> mailto:sales@antigravity.com >> sales@antigravity.com >> >> I was not clear which was correct, ie., if the `*mailto*:' bit should >> be in front or not, and asked him for their snail and email addresses, >> and used your name. To this date I've had no reply. > The mailto just makes it highlight, in YAM and other mailers, the bottom > one is the actual address. They are very busy with the new Boxer > project and I have even had trouble reaching them by phone. > 1-800-7-gravity. Email them again, and use my name, but I would not > expect a quick reply. Software Hut http:''www.softhut.com, may have > them too, but the price is likely to be higher. I just know GVP-M is > in Pennselvania, but I can't find the pamphlet that came with my board. > If you have the address, a snail-mail might help. OK, I'll try sales@antigravity.com again, later. The reason I wanted to deal direct with GVP was they claimed to have the RAM board I wanted, they were cheaper by far than anywhere else, and most importantly I expected proper support and no lies regarding compatibility with my Series 1 accelerator. A sydney computer store told me bare faced lies about the RAM board I asked for. Another reason is of all the suggested sites to go to, www.softhut.com included, of those that bothered to reply, (2 from memory) none had the board in question, either new or secondhand, or knew where to get same. Regarding GVP, at this time I've sent 8 (yes, eight) emails to them. Three to each address on their Web site and 2 snail-mails, the last one by airmail included an international return mail coupon, I'm not sure what the correct name is, and a self addressed envelope. They just don't want a sale, and I find their attitude ignorant in the extreme. Why have a bloody Web site with addresses all over the place if one is arrogantly going to ignore potential customers? Someone answered me making excuses for the poor, hard working Mike and his partner, who, out of the goodness of their heart, are keeping GVP going while holding down an outside job. What utter bullshit!! the only reason they are involved with GVP is to make money, or to piss off potential customers, otherwise, why bother? Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* 320+ million WEB pages... why is life so short? -- ToPPer *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958522588/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Wed May 17 09:13:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18508 invoked by uid 504); 17 May 2000 09:21:31 -0000 Received: from fi.egroups.com (207.138.41.182) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 09:21:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4043-958555288-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2000 09:21:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8167 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 09:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 May 2000 09:21:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 May 2000 09:21:26 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.172] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12s017-0007Ok-00 for Just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:21:25 +0100 To: Just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: Ralph From: Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:13:08 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] (unknown) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does any one have any info on a Commodore 1935 monitor ? is it a multi sync ? Bye -- Ralph ralph@twiss.org http://twiss.org Firemen do it with a big hose --anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/958555288/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From foulkrod@cybertours.com Wed May 17 11:15:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13354 invoked by uid 504); 17 May 2000 21:19:30 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 21:19:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4046-958598367-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2000 21:19:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15658 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 21:19:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 May 2000 21:19:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO transporter.cybertours.com) (208.130.42.17) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 May 2000 21:19:26 -0000 Received: from cybertours.com (robert@kenn002b-p4-174.cybertours.com [64.208.66.174]) by transporter.cybertours.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA23993; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:19:25 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: RobertMillerFoulkrod Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2(unreg) - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck From: Robert Miller Foulkrod MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:15:37 +0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] VoiceInput Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Amiga Lovers, What is the best application program for imputting text into an Amiga by voice? I am interested in dictating text into a file rather than voice control of the computer's functions. Bless You with Divine Inspiration, The Robert Part of Our Creator 496 Loop Road, Wells, Maine 04090-7622, USA Voice & Fax: 207-646-7950 http://www.cybertours.com/~robert/cocreate.html Mailto: foulkrod@cybertours.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/958598368/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 17 13:42:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6246 invoked by uid 504); 17 May 2000 13:41:43 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 13:41:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4044-958570901-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2000 13:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13965 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 13:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 May 2000 13:41:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail01.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.64.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 May 2000 13:41:40 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([203.134.101.33]) by mail01.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 17 May 2000 23:41:30 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:42:54 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (unknown) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17-May-00, Ralph wrote: > Hi, > Does any one have any info on a Commodore 1935 monitor ? > is it a multi sync ? > I have a 1940 & a 1960, they are.... So I guess all the 19xx series are too... Try running it at 31 Khz, (DBLPAL) you'll soon find out if it can display it or not.. ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/958570902/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Wed May 17 17:34:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25328 invoked by uid 504); 17 May 2000 17:35:05 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 17:35:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4045-958584901-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2000 17:35:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1897 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 17:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 May 2000 17:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 May 2000 17:35:00 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.16] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12s7ik-0006YM-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:34:59 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: Ralph From: Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:34:50 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Monitors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Colin On 17-May-00, you wrote: > On 17-May-00, Ralph wrote: >> Hi, >> Does any one have any info on a Commodore 1935 monitor ? >> is it a multi sync ? >> > > I have a 1940 & a 1960, they are.... > So I guess all the 19xx series are too... > > Try running it at 31 Khz, (DBLPAL) you'll soon > find out if it can display it or not.. I had a 1960 till a few months ago :-( This monitor will not show a pal screen ( high res ) very well ( it is ghosted & distorted ) but will show screens on my PPC/Bv ok it is not listed in the cyber gx list of monitors . -- Ralph ralph@twiss.org http://twiss.org Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958584901/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu May 18 02:46:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29339 invoked by uid 504); 18 May 2000 02:45:15 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 18 May 2000 02:45:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4047-958617913-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2000 02:45:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25105 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 02:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 May 2000 02:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail01.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.64.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 May 2000 02:45:12 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.214]) by mail01.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Thu, 18 May 2000 12:44:58 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:46:23 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: VoiceInput Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17-May-00, Robert Miller Foulkrod wrote: > Dear Amiga Lovers, > What is the best application program for imputting text into > an Amiga by voice? I am interested in dictating text into a file > rather than voice control of the computer's functions. > Search Aminet for "Voice Shell" As far as I know it is the only one... ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/958617913/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chris@amigainsight.com Fri May 19 19:52:38 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7517 invoked by uid 504); 19 May 2000 19:52:45 -0000 Received: from jj.egroups.com (208.50.144.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 May 2000 19:52:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4048-958765962-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2000 19:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24105 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 19:52:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 May 2000 19:52:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blueyonder.co.uk) (195.188.53.121) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 May 2000 19:52:41 -0000 Received: from groundzero ([213.48.99.20]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 19 May 2000 20:53:15 +0100 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "Chris Green" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:52:38 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Final exhibitor list for K3 - The Kickstart Amiga Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit PRESS RELEASE – 19/5/00 Final exhibitor list for K3 – The Kickstart Amiga Show announced! The Kickstart User Group (http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk) is pleased to announce the final exhibitor list for K3 – The Kickstart Amiga Show. The Date: Saturday May 27th 2000 The Time: 12-5pm The Place: Brook Hall, Brox Road, Ottershaw, Surrey Admission: £1 per person Retail Exhibitors: Eyetech – Selling a huge array of hardware expansions for all Amiga models, in particular the A1200. Items on sale will include the Zorro4 Busboard expansion and Eyetech’s new EZ-Tower A1200 tower conversion and EZ-Key keyboard adapter. Analogic – Co-sponsor of the show, selling Amiga hardware including the Squirrel SCSI interface for the A1200 and A600, along with hard drives, CD drives and other peripheral expansions. Join Kickstart at the show and get £50 off a 3.1Gb 2.5inch hard drive. Forematt Home Computing – A long-time supporter of the Kickstart Show, Forematt will be selling their vast stock of Amiga games, utilities, educational software and serious application software. Foremat will also be previewing several titles on Kickstart’s 8ft projection screen. Ramjam Consultants – On hand with copies of acclaimed disk filing system PFS3 and other Amiga products. Alive Mediasoft – Will be selling their catalogue of current and classic Amiga games. Epic Marketing – Offering an array of Amiga games, serious software and compilation CD sets. AmigActive Magazine – The UK’s number one newsstand Amiga magazine will be on hand to take subscription orders and to sell copies of the brand-new issue of the magazine, back-issues and AmigActive merchandise Digitec UK – Stocking printer supplies (ink, toner etc) printer paper and other computer consumables. Kelly Taylor – A regular independent trader at the show offering a range of classic Amiga software and hardware for sale. Stephan – Another regular independent trader at the show selling the latest in peripherals such as hard drives, monitors, printers and CD drives (exact sale stock to be confirmed). Chris Green – Selling a range of Amiga software, games and hardware - including copies of MacOS 8.1, ideal for Fusion or ShapeShifter emulation and a limited stock of Amiga-compatible memory SIMMs. Dean Swift – Selling books, back issues of Amiga magazines, software and hardware. Usergroups: Kickstart – The host usergroup will be on-hand to sign up new members and sell copies of its Amiga Insight fanzine Seal – The Essex-based usergroup and publisher of the Clubbed Amiga fanzine ASA – A growing usergroup in the Portsmouth/Southampton area PAG – A new usergroup in the Portsmouth area Contacts: For show enquiries and stand bookings (stand-by only) please contact Ray McCarthy (Show Promoter) at ray-mccarthy@cwcom.net or call (01737) 215432. For all other enquiries, please contact Chris Green (PR Co-ordinator) at chris@amigainsight.com or call (07971) 273850. -------------------- Directions to the Show: Directions to Brook Hall: From the M25, J11 take the Woking exit, at the next roundabout take the first left onto the A320 to Woking, at the next roundabout take a left again into Murray Rd, about 20yds on the left is a car park, park here and Brook Hall is straight in front of you, on the corner of Murray Rd and Brox Rd. Public transport: Ottershaw is close to Woking, which is easily accessible from London and the South. From Woking to Ottershaw transport is by Bus or Taxi. Taxis cost about £5. PLEASE NOTE: All software sold by anyone at the show must be original and proof of ownership may be required from vendors before entrance to the sale is permitted. Kickstart reserve the right to refuse entrance to any person, regardless of a booking. Kickstart cannot accept responsibility for any goods purchased at the show. Entry to the show is at your own risk. Kickstart reserve the right to add or remove events from the show without notice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 72% off on Name brand Watches! Come and buy today and get free shipping! http://click.egroups.com/1/4011/3/_/490399/_/958765962/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chris@amigainsight.com Sat May 20 12:40:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23950 invoked by uid 504); 20 May 2000 12:40:52 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 May 2000 12:40:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4049-958826450-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2000 12:40:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 12507 invoked from network); 20 May 2000 12:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 May 2000 12:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blueyonder.co.uk) (195.188.53.122) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 May 2000 12:40:50 -0000 Received: from groundzero ([213.48.99.112]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 20 May 2000 13:41:25 +0100 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "Chris Green" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:40:51 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Sign-up online for the Kickstart Show games tournaments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all Just to let you know that from 1pm on Saturday (May 20th) you can sign-up for the multiplayer Quake and Super Skidmarks tournaments taking place at K3 - The Kickstart Amiga Show. How to sign up for the Kickstart Games Arena: Simply go to http://www.kickstart.amiga.co.uk and click on the 'Show' link. Places in the tournaments are limited so don't delay. Places are offered on a strict 'first come, first served' basis. ----------------------- The Prizes: ----------------------- Quake: ------ First Prize: A 2.5" 3.1gig Hard Drive from Analogic A trackball A copy of Quake for the Amiga from Forematt A copy of Super Skidmarks from Forematt A mouse from Eyetech A joystick from Epic Runner-up: A 2.5" 800k Hard Drive from Analogic A copy of Super Skidmarks from Forematt A mouse from Eyetech A joystick from Epic 3rd and 4th Place Prizes: A joystick, mouse and a copy of Super Skidmarks each Super Skidmarks: ---------------- First Prize: A 2.5" 3.1gig Hard Drive from Analogic A trackball A copy of Quake for the Amiga from Forematt A copy of Super Skidmarks from Forematt A mouse from Eyetech A joystick from Epic Runner-up: A 2.5" 800k Hard Drive from Analogic A copy of Super Skidmarks from Forematt A mouse from Eyetech A joystick from Epic 3rd and 4th Place Prizes: A joystick, mouse and a copy of Super Skidmarks each ----------------------------- K3 - The Kickstart Amiga Show ----------------------------- The Date: Saturday May 27th 2000 The Time: 12-5pm The Place: Brook Hall, Brox Road, Ottershaw, Surrey Admission: £1 per person ----------------------- Directions to the Show: ----------------------- Directions to Brook Hall: From the M25, J11 take the Woking exit, at the next roundabout take the first left onto the A320 to Woking, at the next roundabout take a left again into Murray Rd, about 20yds on the left is a car park, park here and Brook Hall is straight in front of you, on the corner of Murray Rd and Brox Rd. Public transport: Ottershaw is close to Woking, which is easily accessible from London and the South. From Woking to Ottershaw transport is by Bus or Taxi. Taxis cost about £5. --------------------------------- PLEASE NOTE: All software sold by anyone at the show must be original and proof of ownership may be required from vendors before entrance to the sale is permitted. Kickstart reserve the right to refuse entrance to any person, regardless of a booking. Kickstart cannot accept responsibility for any goods purchased at the show. Entry to the show is at your own risk. Kickstart reserve the right to add or remove events from the show without notice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/958826451/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chris@amigainsight.com Sat May 20 14:26:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32583 invoked by uid 504); 20 May 2000 14:26:24 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 May 2000 14:26:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4050-958832783-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2000 14:26:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23807 invoked from network); 20 May 2000 14:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 May 2000 14:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blueyonder.co.uk) (195.188.53.123) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 May 2000 14:26:22 -0000 Received: from groundzero ([213.48.99.112]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 20 May 2000 15:26:57 +0100 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "Chris Green" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:26:24 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Correction: Sign-up online for the Kickstart Show games tournaments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please note that the correct web site address for Kickstart is actually http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk. Online signup for the Quake and Super Skidmarks tournaments are now online and ready to accept applications. Thanks Chris Green PR Officer Kickstart Amiga User Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/958832783/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chris@amigainsight.com Sat May 20 15:17:26 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4412 invoked by uid 504); 20 May 2000 15:17:26 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 May 2000 15:17:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4051-958835844-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2000 15:17:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15473 invoked from network); 20 May 2000 15:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 May 2000 15:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blueyonder.co.uk) (195.188.53.125) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 May 2000 15:17:23 -0000 Received: from groundzero ([213.48.99.112]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 20 May 2000 16:17:58 +0100 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "Chris Green" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:17:26 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] ** UPDATE ** Getting to the Kickstart Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In answer to many requests we have received from people wanting to use route-planning software to find their way to the Kickstart Show, the post code for Brook Hall is: KT16 0HL In addition, local and Motorway maps showing the venue can be found on our web site at http://www.kickstart-amiga.co.uk ----------------------- Directions to the Show: ----------------------- Directions to Brook Hall: From the M25, J11 take the Woking exit, at the next roundabout take the first left onto the A320 to Woking, at the next roundabout take a left again into Murray Rd, about 20yds on the left is a car park, park here and Brook Hall is straight in front of you, on the corner of Murray Rd and Brox Rd. Public transport: Ottershaw is close to Woking, which is easily accessible from London and the South. From Woking to Ottershaw transport is by Bus or Taxi. Taxis cost about £5. Thanks Chris Green PR Officer Kickstart Amiga User Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Over 1,000 solutions for allergies & asthma-gazoontite.com! Shop now! http://click.egroups.com/1/4193/3/_/490399/_/958835844/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rom@digicolor.net Sat May 20 16:52:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12448 invoked by uid 504); 20 May 2000 16:49:26 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 May 2000 16:49:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4052-958841364-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 May 2000 16:49:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22670 invoked from network); 20 May 2000 16:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 May 2000 16:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns.digicolor.net) (194.185.147.131) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 May 2000 16:49:23 -0000 Received: from super ([194.185.147.210]) by dns.digicolor.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20294 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 18:48:44 +0200 Message-ID: <005d01bfc27b$b8b77520$d293b9c2@super> To: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 From: "Roberto Monticelli" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:52:01 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] VoiceInput Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Dear Amiga Lovers, > What is the best application program for imputting text into > an Amiga by voice? I am interested in dictating text into a file > rather than voice control of the computer's functions. search on Aminet "Voiceshell" or "aniMan" or "VCLI" bye RoM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. http://click.egroups.com/1/3012/3/_/490399/_/958841364/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From gavilan@sinectis.com.ar Thu May 25 23:07:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30243 invoked by uid 504); 25 May 2000 23:08:29 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 May 2000 23:08:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4053-959296106-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 May 2000 23:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12820 invoked from network); 25 May 2000 23:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 May 2000 23:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ix2.sinectis.com.ar) (200.16.183.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 May 2000 23:08:24 -0000 Received: from gavilan (modem70-tc7.capfed1.sinectis.com.ar [216.244.203.190]) by ix2.sinectis.com.ar (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA22064; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:13:23 -0300 Message-ID: <005e01bfc69d$f543f560$becbf4d8@gavilan> To: "afb" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Gavilan Pollero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:07:08 -0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] HELP with netwroking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: well after a lot of time...i have finally got a pcmcia ethernet device for my Amiga. Now im ready to network 2 pc and my Amiga in my house via RJ 45. The amiga device is called APNET. What i would really love is any directions/suggestions/comments you could give me on how to configure everything. I have Miami 3 Deluxe new, not yet installed as i dont want to mess up my system. What i would like to know is what machine is better as server: the Amiga or one of the Pc, how to connect them to the HUB, how to configure Miami... The 2 pc are already networked...so only advice on the amiga side is asked here.... Any help will be very much apprecciatted... Kind Regards Sebastian ------------------G4vil4n P0ll3r0-------------------------------------------- Amiga 1200T - 48 megas - HD Seagate 4,3 - Modem Motorola 56 k Blizzard 1230 050 - Blizzard SCSI kit - Monitor Commodore 1942 CD-R Pioneer 16x - CD-W Teac 55RS - MIDI - DSS8+ - Zip Plus - --------------------Gavilan Pollero--------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/959296105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Fri May 26 14:30:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19847 invoked by uid 504); 26 May 2000 14:31:10 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 May 2000 14:31:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4054-959351464-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 May 2000 14:31:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 1411 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 14:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 May 2000 14:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 May 2000 14:30:45 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp48.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.241]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA06487; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:00:41 +0930 To: JAM Mail List , I-Amiga Main Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:00:50 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Amigans... I have some questions regarding fonts. This is a bit longwinded, so, please bear with me. The problem was brought home to me when I recently attempted to install a different font caching utility than the one I'd been using for some years. It failed to work because it was looking for a dir called `_bullet' in my Fonts: assign to write the fontcache file to. When I copied this dir along with `_bullet_outlines' from my back-up partition, it started working correctly. (So far, anyway.) These two directories have never been in my Fonts: dir since I got the A1200. At present I have the normal assigned Fonts: directory, plus some add assigns for fonts stored on another partition. These assigns all work correctly and all fonts in the multiple assigns are listed and can be used in all programs that I use regularly, eg., paint programs and so forth. The following is a truncated version of my setup: Directory WORKBENCH:Fonts/ Courier (sub-dir) Courier.font (in root of WORKBENCH:Fonts) Courier.metric (as above - but no sub-dir) Helvetica (sub-dir) Helvetica.font (in root of WORKBENCH:Fonts) Helvetica.metric (as above - but no sub-dir) Times (sub-dir) Times.font (in root of WORKBENCH:Fonts) Times.metric (as above - but no sub-dir) To the best of my knowledge, the above have been in my Fonts: assign since I've had the A1200 with OS3.0 along with the normally installed and added fonts and their associated sub-dirs. What I need to know is, what purpose do the 3 .metric files serve, as to my knowledge, I have not been able to use them? Should there be some sort of assign? If so, I've never seen one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The following are also in the root of WORKBENCH:Fonts and have no associated sub-directory. CGTriumvirate.otag CGTriumvirate.font CGTimes.otag CGTimes.font What purpose do these 4 files serve? Once again, I don't believe I've ever been able to use them. PLEASE NOTE: There are Triumvirate sub-dir and Triumvirate.font and as mentioned above, Times and Times.font files in the Fonts: assign, but no `CGwhatever' sub-dirs. Do the above have something to do with the newly added sub-dirs below? These have the following files in them... Directory WORKBENCH:Fonts/_bullet hq3.fnt (all inside the _bullet sub-dir) hq3updt.tyq if.fnt if.uc plugin.types Directory WORKBENCH:Fonts/_bullet_outlines CGTimes.type (all inside the _bullet_outlines sub-dir) CGTriumvirate.type LetterGothic.type OctaMED.type The above do not have any assign associated to them either. Should they have one? The only fonts I have no problems with are Bitmap and the type used by FinalWriter. (Adobe, NimbusQ - I think.) My version 4.02 of FW has never given me a single problem using these (vector ?) fonts, the ones with the .pfb postfix, and the internal FW libs/files have allowed me to add many fancy fonts from Aminet that work absolutely transparently with FW. Though, with only 6Mb of memory, I am limited on how many pages (and fonts) I can use. The A1200 manuals are sadly lacking in information on the above, and, despite my prolific reading on Compugraphic and other types of fonts, (eg., Truetype) I have no idea what I should be doing to access these add-on fonts. Any information on the above, or pointing me in the right direction of some dox that may help, would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* SHAPE: something which everyone has, but looks much better on young women -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959351461/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sdomina@hotmail.com Fri May 26 23:06:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 26094 invoked by uid 504); 26 May 2000 23:06:32 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 May 2000 23:06:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4055-959382384-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 May 2000 23:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11515 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 23:06:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 May 2000 23:06:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.148.152) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 May 2000 23:06:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 65946 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2000 23:06:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000526230623.65945.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.42.141.110 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:06:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.42.141.110] To: just-amiga@egroups.com From: "Stephen Domina" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:06:23 MST Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes using any of the FontManager utilities. The *.otag are what it looks for when creating these new fonts. The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. The creator wrote the documents sop you could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and see. Sincerely, Steve Domina Globe, AZ USA ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/959382380/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Sat May 27 07:08:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10110 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 07:08:48 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 07:08:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4056-959411326-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 07:08:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 30041 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 07:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 07:08:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.50) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 07:08:45 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust29.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.29]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA04678 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:08:43 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000526230623.65945.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 03:08:12 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26-May-00 at 19:06:23, Stephen Domina wrote these words of wisdom: > Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes > using any of the FontManager utilities. > The *.otag are what it looks for when creating these new fonts. > The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. The creator > wrote the documents sop you could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and > see. Also works great with iBrowse2.2. FWIW I have the _Bullets and _Bullets_Outlines in the same directory as my CGFonts. I keep my fonts seperated my type. My main FONTS: assign points to Sys:Fonts/BitMappedFonts with additions "ADD"s for Sys:Fonts/CGFonts, Sys:Fonts/PS_Type_1, and Sys:Fonts/True_Type_Fonts. For the most part it all works. A few of my TTF fonts aren't recognised though they do show up in font requestors. I could probably do it simpler, but this is my method. I hope the original poster finds his answer. -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959411321/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 27 17:28:25 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22887 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 11:35:15 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 11:35:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4057-959427313-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 12:35:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 31290 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 11:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 11:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.171) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 11:35:11 -0000 Received: from modem-50.lead.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.60.178] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12ves1-00008Z-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:35:09 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000526230623.65945.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:28:25 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All. Anyone help with a "Self Inflicted" Problem? I have an old Pal monitor (Acorn) which i have happily been using for the past 4 years (can't afford any thing better at the Moment) I have been using almost the standard Workbench (3.0) running on a "SuperHires" screen. Now I was quite happy with this set-up, But found an old version of Magic Workbench on a CD and thought I wouuld try and "Spruce" thing up a little. Regardless of how much I tried, I could only get a reasonable viewing screen using "Superhires interlaced" However this suffered from so much "flickering" and the fonts were so small that I couldn't read any text. So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench ....(not the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( I have the Workbench *almost* back to normal (With the exception of the "Workbench Drawer" whish is distorted and coloured Blue/Green & White. Also if I try to switch from "Superhires" to "Hires Interlaced" For using the internet ...The screen changes to a Total Blue Background (Screen & Windows) with black text. (although the web pages display ok) I have "racked" my Brains and tried everything I can think of to rectify this problem ....But sadly failed! Anyone suggest something or had the same experience. Thanks in advance for any assistance given. P.S. the random tagline says it all ;) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959427308/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sat May 27 17:33:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7067 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 17:33:36 -0000 Received: from ml.egroups.com (208.50.144.77) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 17:33:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4058-959448813-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 18:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 7464 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 17:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 17:33:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 17:33:30 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp8.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.201]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA01784 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 03:03:24 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000526230623.65945.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 03:03:20 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stephen... On 27-May-00, you wrote: > Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes > using any of the FontManager utilities. Err... what FontManager utilities? They're not on my system. > The *.otag are what it looks for when creating these new fonts. > The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. The creator > wrote the documents sop you could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and > see. I'll try this URL later Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959448807/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sat May 27 17:36:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7182 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 17:36:17 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 17:36:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4059-959448975-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 17:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 5925 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 17:36:12 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp8.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.201]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA01822 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:11 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:08 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Marion... On 27-May-00, you wrote: > On 26-May-00 at 19:06:23, Stephen Domina wrote these words of wisdom: >> Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes >> using any of the FontManager utilities. >> The *.otag are what it looks for when creating these new fonts. >> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. The creator >> wrote the documents sop you could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and >> see. > > Also works great with iBrowse2.2. > > FWIW I have the _Bullets and _Bullets_Outlines in the same directory as my > CGFonts. I keep my fonts seperated my type. My main FONTS: assign points to > Sys:Fonts/BitMappedFonts with additions "ADD"s for Sys:Fonts/CGFonts, > Sys:Fonts/PS_Type_1, and Sys:Fonts/True_Type_Fonts. For the most part it all > works. A few of my TTF fonts aren't recognised though they do show up in > font requestors. I could probably do it simpler, but this is my method. I > hope the original poster finds his answer. Thanx, Marion. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Life is an inherited disease -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959448969/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 27 19:38:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13949 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 19:41:28 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 19:41:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4060-959456485-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 19:41:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1353 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 19:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 19:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.176) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 19:41:23 -0000 Received: from modem-77.cobalt.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.26.77] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12vmSX-0004A5-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 27 May 2000 20:41:22 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 20:38:11 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Any Suggestion Welcome!," starring Ian C Fyvie... On 27-May-00, you wrote: > Anyone help with a "Self Inflicted" Problem? I have an old Pal > monitor (Acorn) which i have happily been using for the past 4 years > (can't afford any thing better at the Moment) I have been using almost the > standard Workbench (3.0) running on a "SuperHires" screen. Now I was quite > happy with this set-up, But found an old version of Magic Workbench on a > CD and thought I wouuld try and "Spruce" thing up a little. > > Actually, I think MagicWB is great, but it does like a proportional resolution. > Regardless of how much I tried, I could only get a reasonable viewing > screen using "Superhires interlaced" However this suffered from so much > "flickering" and the fonts were so small that I couldn't read any text. What about MagicTV? Or are you using too many colours? > I have the Workbench *almost* back to normal (With the exception of the > "Workbench Drawer" whish is distorted and coloured Blue/Green & White. > Also if I try to switch from "Superhires" to "Hires Interlaced" For using > the internet ...The screen changes to a Total Blue Background (Screen & > Windows) with black text. (although the web pages display ok) Hmm, odd. Sorry, can't help out there. Can you not just replace the workbench drawer icon with another one? > P.S. the random tagline says it all ;) Indeedy. Sooner, Sandy, if my maths is right, 5ish days to go... -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Taglines always lie. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959456479/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sat May 27 21:44:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16670 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 20:43:02 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 20:43:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4061-959460180-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 20:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 30126 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 20:42:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 20:42:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 20:42:59 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p37.lafn.org [192.168.11.37] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA09562 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 13:44:09 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy On 27-May-00, you wrote: > Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Any Suggestion > Welcome!," starring Ian C Fyvie... > > On 27-May-00, you wrote: > >> Anyone help with a "Self Inflicted" Problem? I have an old >> Pal monitor (Acorn) which i have happily been using for the past 4 >> years (can't afford any thing better at the Moment) I have been using >> almost the standard Workbench (3.0) running on a "SuperHires" screen. >> Now I was quite happy with this set-up, But found an old version of >> Magic Workbench on a CD and thought I wouuld try and "Spruce" thing >> up a little. >> >> > > Actually, I think MagicWB is great, but it does like a proportional > resolution. > >> Regardless of how much I tried, I could only get a reasonable viewing >> screen using "Superhires interlaced" However this suffered from so >> much "flickering" and the fonts were so small that I couldn't read >> any text. > > What about MagicTV? Or are you using too many colours? > >> I have the Workbench *almost* back to normal (With the exception of >> the "Workbench Drawer" whish is distorted and coloured Blue/Green & >> White. Also if I try to switch from "Superhires" to "Hires >> Interlaced" For using the internet ...The screen changes to a Total >> Blue Background (Screen & Windows) with black text. (although the web >> pages display ok) > > Hmm, odd. Sorry, can't help out there. Can you not just replace the > workbench drawer icon with another one? > >> P.S. the random tagline says it all ;) > > Indeedy. > > > Sooner, > > Sandy, if my maths is right, 5ish days to go... > If you just comment out the two long MWB lines, one in startup.sequence, and the other in user-startup, it should totally disable MWB and return things to normal. Did you try that? Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959460174/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sat May 27 21:45:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16749 invoked by uid 504); 27 May 2000 20:44:44 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 20:44:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4062-959460282-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2000 20:44:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27264 invoked from network); 27 May 2000 20:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 May 2000 20:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 May 2000 20:44:42 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p37.lafn.org [192.168.11.37] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA09637 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:44:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 13:45:53 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Marion On 26-May-00, you wrote: > On 26-May-00 at 19:06:23, Stephen Domina wrote these words of wisdom: >> Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes using >> any of the FontManager utilities. The *.otag are what it looks for >> when creating these new fonts. The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) >> has a new link to fonts. The creator wrote the documents sop you >> could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and see. > > Also works great with iBrowse2.2. > > FWIW I have the _Bullets and _Bullets_Outlines in the same directory > as my CGFonts. I keep my fonts seperated my type. My main FONTS: > assign points to Sys:Fonts/BitMappedFonts with additions "ADD"s for > Sys:Fonts/CGFonts, Sys:Fonts/PS_Type_1, and Sys:Fonts/True_Type_Fonts. > For the most part it all works. A few of my TTF fonts aren't > recognised though they do show up in font requestors. I could probably > do it simpler, but this is my method. I hope the original poster finds > his answer. Simpler still, the bullets and bullets_outlines are just in my basic fonts drawyer. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959460277/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sdomina@hotmail.com Sun May 28 01:24:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 26947 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 01:24:50 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 01:24:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4063-959477087-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 01:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 20862 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 01:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 01:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.148.129) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 01:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 40670 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2000 01:24:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000528012446.40669.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 162.42.141.83 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:24:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [162.42.141.83] To: just-amiga@egroups.com From: "Stephen Domina" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 18:24:46 MST Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went there today.. It's called TTF Guide. It addresss' the fonts for V-NG, but you can use the guide for all your font needs. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CLICK HERE***SPECIAL OFFER***$60 in FREE calls ***SPECIAL OFFER***CLICK HERE http://click.egroups.com/1/4127/3/_/490399/_/959477081/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun May 28 12:27:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11805 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 11:28:01 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 11:28:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4066-959513279-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 11:27:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 8123 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 11:27:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 11:27:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 11:27:57 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax05-027.enterprise.net [212.161.115.27]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15110 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 12:27:54 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 12:27:51 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > Fortunately I tend to back-up my "S" Drawer after installing any new > programs, And I had just re-installed "Kingcon" a week prior ...So I > simpley replaced the whole "S" drawer.....I did thnk that this would get > rid of MWB and it seemed to help apart from the annoying problems with the > switching of screen modes and the WB Drawer icon. :( > > Ok, I'm still not sure how MWB can be causing you so much problem, as it's only replacement Icons. Although, you say you were running you workbench in superhires??? 1280x256??? uch! thats a 4x1 proportion screenmode! You really should be using a 1x1 screenmode. If you want MWB, all you need is a little program called, 'MagicColour' I think (to sort the palette out) and you really should be running your workbench in hires-laced (640x512). Of course, if you don't like the MWB look, try 'NewIcons' instead:) And if you don't like Interlaced, MWB will still look fine in hires. (but you really shouldn't use superhires modes, they eat chipram speed.) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - An ingot of pure gold the size of a matchbox can be flattened into a sheet the size of a tennis court. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959513272/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From pelind@algonet.se Sun May 28 15:03:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21435 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 15:03:51 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 15:03:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4068-959526228-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 15:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 23466 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 15:03:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 15:03:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO musse.tninet.se) (195.100.94.12) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 15:03:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16977 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 17:03:43 +0200 Received: from delenn.tninet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.94.104) by musse.tninet.se with SMTP; 28 May 2000 17:03:43 +0200 Received: from aristotle.algonet.se (aristotle.algonet.se [194.213.74.200]) by algonet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.1) with ESMTP id delenn-s1-959.526142.108443 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 17:02:22 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: Peter Lindberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 17:03:42 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] The 4GB barrier again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello!, i have just replaced my old 6gb disc, with a new 12gb.. but.. i'm having some odd problems, i'm using: scsi.device 43.34 (OS3.5) Professional-File-System-II 18.5 PROFESSIONAL-VERSION Format64 V1.04 (19.5.98) so i shouldn't have any problems with the 4gb barrier? or, have i missed something?, after formating it says, can't find disc error -3 any ides'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959526221/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun May 28 15:34:26 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22869 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 15:33:20 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 15:33:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4069-959527998-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 15:33:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6089 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 15:33:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 15:33:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail01.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.64.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 15:33:17 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.123]) by mail01.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Mon, 29 May 2000 01:33:31 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 01:34:26 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-May-00, Ian C Fyvie wrote: -snip- > Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor > ATM. So stuck with this old Pal thing. > Problem is that the standard "High Res" is so big that it leaves > little room to work on the Workbench screen. Put it on it's own screen then, that way you have the entire display area free for wb & the browser screen is full size too... _________________________________________ Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959527991/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 28 16:21:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9525 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 10:33:26 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 10:33:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4064-959510004-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 10:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19081 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 10:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 10:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 10:33:23 -0000 Received: from modem-72.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.200] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12w0Nk-00062w-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 28 May 2000 11:33:20 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 11:21:22 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy On 27-May-00, you wrote: >> > > Actually, I think MagicWB is great, but it does like a proportional > resolution. >> Regardless of how much I tried, I could only get a reasonable viewing >> screen using "Superhires interlaced" However this suffered from so much >> "flickering" and the fonts were so small that I couldn't read any text. > > What about MagicTV? Or are you using too many colours? Well normally I use a 64 colour WB screen but reducing it to 4/8 colours made no difference, In fact it seemed worse! As I said for some reason MWB would only give a reasonable display in Superhires Interlaced running at the Full 256 colour mode. Apart from the fact that this was almost impossible to read because of the small text and flicker it also "Ate" up a lot of chip Ram, Hense the reason I had to try and un-install it :( >> I have the Workbench *almost* back to normal (With the exception of the >> "Workbench Drawer" whish is distorted and coloured Blue/Green & White. >> Also if I try to switch from "Superhires" to "Hires Interlaced" For using >> the internet ...The screen changes to a Total Blue Background (Screen & >> Windows) with black text. (although the web pages display ok) > > Hmm, odd. Sorry, can't help out there. Can you not just replace the > workbench drawer icon with another one? Again I thought that would be easy! and it did work for the "Ram Disk" icon, but for some stupid unknown reason the WB Drawer refuses to return to normal, I have tried replacing it (Icon edit and Dragging a new icon in to the Info screen) I even tried re-drawing the Soding thing in icon edit..But it keeps going back to the Distorted Blue/Green/White thing :( Notice your from AberdeenShire ( Land of my birth :) well the name says it all ;) Ever been in "Cruden Bay"? I stayed there for 6 years :) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959509997/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 28 16:26:18 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9532 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 10:33:29 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 10:33:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4065-959510005-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 10:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28476 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 10:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 10:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 10:33:25 -0000 Received: from modem-72.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.200] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12w0Nm-00062w-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 28 May 2000 11:33:23 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 11:26:18 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike On 27-May-00, you wrote: > If you just comment out the two long MWB lines, one in startup.sequence, > and the other in user-startup, it should totally disable MWB and return > things to normal. Did you try that? Fortunately I tend to back-up my "S" Drawer after installing any new programs, And I had just re-installed "Kingcon" a week prior ...So I simpley replaced the whole "S" drawer.....I did thnk that this would get rid of MWB and it seemed to help apart from the annoying problems with the switching of screen modes and the WB Drawer icon. :( Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Sex is hereditary. 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Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959509998/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Sun May 28 18:11:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27784 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 17:12:07 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 17:12:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4070-959533925-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 17:12:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14919 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 17:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 17:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.mx.voyager.net) (216.93.66.201) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 17:12:03 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as2-dial115.pntc.mi.voyager.net [209.153.138.243]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.10.1/Voyager) with SMTP id e4SHFHp58879 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 13:15:18 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Jack York MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 13:11:50 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: The 4GB barrier again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter On 28-May-00, Peter Lindberg wrote: > Hello!, > > i have just replaced my old 6gb disc, with a new 12gb.. but.. > i'm having some odd problems, i'm using: > scsi.device 43.34 (OS3.5) > Professional-File-System-II 18.5 PROFESSIONAL-VERSION > Format64 V1.04 (19.5.98) > > so i shouldn't have any problems with the 4gb barrier? or, have i missed > something?, after formating it says, can't find disc error -3 > any ides'. It has been a while since I formatted my drives but two thoughts come to mind. First, be sure you are using pfs2ds instead of pfs2 for the area greater than 4 meg? And second, be sure you are doing a quick format instead of a full format? Hope this helps. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959533917/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 28 18:22:14 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20905 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 14:52:33 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 14:52:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4067-959525550-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 14:52:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13839 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 14:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 14:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.175) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 14:52:28 -0000 Received: from modem-4.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.82.132] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12w4QU-0008Eq-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 28 May 2000 15:52:27 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 13:22:14 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrew On 28-May-00, you wrote: >> >> > > Ok, I'm still not sure how MWB can be causing you so much problem, as > it's only replacement Icons. Although, you say you were running you > workbench in superhires??? 1280x256??? uch! thats a 4x1 proportion > screenmode! You really should be using a 1x1 screenmode. Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor ATM. So stuck with this old Pal thing. Problem is that the standard "High Res" is so big that it leaves little room to work on the Workbench screen. "high Res Laced" is OK but the "Flicker" bugs the old eyes to much! Super Hi-res provides a nice sized screen with no flicker and easily readable text, Combined with FBlit I can run it at 128 colours and still have in excess of 1.5 meg of chip Ram left ( and yes I do have a Back Pic on Workbench ;) > If you want MWB, all you need is a little program called, 'MagicColour' I > think (to sort the palette out) and you really should be running your > workbench in hires-laced (640x512). Don't want MWB ...In fact the CD is now lying somewhere in a Field about 500 yards from my house (Makes a great frisbee ;) > Of course, if you don't like the MWB look, try 'NewIcons' instead:) Tried Newicons but it seemed to eat up Chip Ram worse that my Screenmode :( > And if you don't like Interlaced, MWB will still look fine in hires. > (but you really shouldn't use superhires modes, they eat chipram speed.) Call me fussy ;) Hate "hires screenmode" Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959525542/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sun May 28 20:51:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3359 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 19:50:43 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 19:50:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4071-959543436-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 19:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9745 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 19:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 19:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 19:50:34 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p39.lafn.org [192.168.16.39] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA09514 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 12:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 12:51:42 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: The 4GB barrier again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter On 28-May-00, you wrote: > Hello!, > > i have just replaced my old 6gb disc, with a new 12gb.. but.. > i'm having some odd problems, i'm using: > scsi.device 43.34 (OS3.5) > Professional-File-System-II 18.5 PROFESSIONAL-VERSION > Format64 V1.04 (19.5.98) > > so i shouldn't have any problems with the 4gb barrier? or, have i > missed something?, after formating it says, can't find disc error -3 > any ides'. There is something else you have to set in OS 3.5 to make it work beyond 4 gigs, but I don't remember what -- anyone know? 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!," starring Ian C Fyvie... On 28-May-00, you wrote: >> What about MagicTV? Or are you using too many colours? > > Well normally I use a 64 colour WB screen but reducing it to 4/8 colours > made no difference, In fact it seemed worse! As I said for some reason MWB > would only give a reasonable display in Superhires Interlaced running at > the Full 256 colour mode. Apart from the fact that this was almost > impossible to read because of the small text and flicker it also "Ate" up > a lot of chip Ram, Hense the reason I had to try and un-install it :( MagicTV is a program that seriously reduces interlace flicker, but it only works on screens up to 16 colours. Also, you could try increasing font size to make things more readable. >> Hmm, odd. Sorry, can't help out there. Can you not just replace the >> workbench drawer icon with another one? > > Again I thought that would be easy! and it did work for the "Ram Disk" > icon, but for some stupid unknown reason the WB Drawer refuses to return > to normal, I have tried replacing it (Icon edit and Dragging a new icon in > to the Info screen) I even tried re-drawing the Soding thing in icon > edit..But it keeps going back to the Distorted Blue/Green/White thing :( Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer info somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the right type? > Notice your from AberdeenShire ( Land of my birth :) well the name says it > all ;) > Ever been in "Cruden Bay"? I stayed there for 6 years :) Not recently. Last time was a couple of years ago- decent place, amd not quite as small as where I stay. (New Deer- know where that is?) :-) Sooner, Sandy, maybe this week... -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Why should I bother typing out a tagline? AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Sun May 28 23:43:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24931 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 03:31:52 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 03:31:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4076-959571108-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 03:31:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27949 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 03:31:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 03:31:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 03:31:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13215 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 03:31:38 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-21.cvx2.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.140.21) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 29 May 2000 03:31:38 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:43:23 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ian On 29-May-00, you wrote: >ICF TRied just about everything ....I have now managed to get rid of the >ICF "Squashed Bug" effect for the Workbench Drawer I found a drawer of MWB extras in my A1200 (started withbog-standard min config given to me by a relative 'moving on...? to 486:-) and am collecting goodies as I go along) Had some interesting moments in this area. I haven't got a MWB install prog which may have prefs etc - just imported icons to iconedit. Pretty icons all change colors when apps progs run...even prettier!! had to make screen 256 colours to stabilise them, then everything slows to near-stall if wbackdrop+music+application prog. Using multiscan productivity is part responsible and other modes better but number of colours main prob. More trouble after installing organiser EO2?? (found at aminet). When I dragged windows across the screen they left residual debris behind, obscuring everything eventually. EO2 refused to be de-installed. when I tried to delete it it always said 'object in use'. I found it had put time prefs in WBStartup aand launched itself when I booted Some places I went to get rid of these probs: Boot amiga up with L&R mouse buttons held down - goes to early start screen. (avoids WBStartup) Use cd and dir commands in the shell window to have a look whats in where. If you not amigaDos wizz - i certainly not-u can go back to WB to remove anything you find wrong. think loadWB command (?) will take you there without reboot. Have a look at startup-sequence and user-startup (ed s:start...xxx...) Disable with CAUTION, partic in startup-sequence,;-) any lines that refer to MWB or whatever by putting ; at start of line. Reduce screen colurs/resolution After doing it the hard way I found DOpus makes life easier by miles. ...Sadly the Drawer icon >ICF has now been replaced by a Disk symbol ... Is it a drawer in a window or a 'drawer type' disk icon in Workbench ? Use Iconedit to change it: select the correct drawe or disk option from types menu select 'open' from project menu - choose a xxx.info file to import to Icoedit. select saveas from project menu. select the icon you want to change. Sounds like your "Disk symbol" is a default icon. to change these go to 'save as default icon' in project menu. dont forget the 'type' >ICF But at least it is usable :) Who dares wins:-)))) Hope i not boring you stupid or insulting intelligence. Its just the route I took. Regards Cally -- Reality is for people who lack imagination. -||||| A1200. 68030. 32Mb 500megHD |||||- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959571100/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Mon May 29 01:58:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18854 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 00:57:30 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 00:57:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4074-959561848-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 00:57:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 1540 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 00:57:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 00:57:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 00:57:26 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p30.lafn.org [192.168.16.30] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA25645 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 17:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 17:58:35 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy On 28-May-00, you wrote: > On 28-May-00, you wrote: >>> Hmm, odd. Sorry, can't help out there. Can you not just replace the >>> workbench drawer icon with another one? >> >> Again I thought that would be easy! and it did work for the "Ram >> Disk" icon, but for some stupid unknown reason the WB Drawer refuses >> to return to normal, I have tried replacing it (Icon edit and >> Dragging a new icon in to the Info screen) I even tried re-drawing >> the Soding thing in icon edit..But it keeps going back to the >> Distorted Blue/Green/White thing :( > > Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer > info somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the > right type? Colors. I used a program off Aminet called FullPalate to recolor the MWB icons on OS 3.5. I must warn you it is a bitch to use in more than 16 colors, but going back to my ECS NTSC workbench and resetting the colors at 16 worked, and the settings held when I went back to 256 colors at 800x600x8. I also set the WB to 800x600x16, and the changes still held there -- that is the MWB icons still looked ok. That might help if not solve your problem. I don't run MWB on OS 3.5, BTW. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959561839/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Mon May 29 02:56:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23597 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 02:56:52 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 02:56:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4075-959569009-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 02:56:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1236 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 02:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 02:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.123) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 02:56:49 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust11.tnt4.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.31.17.11]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04210 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 19:56:47 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 22:56:09 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 27-May-00 at 13:33:20, Tony P. Parr wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Stephen... > > On 27-May-00, you wrote: > >> Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes >> using any of the FontManager utilities. > > Err... what FontManager utilities? They're not on my system. OS2.0-3.5 comes with CompuGraphic Outline fonts (CGTimes, CGTriumvirate, and Lettergothic) and the outline font manager "Intellifont". If you install the ttf.library for TrueType Fonts it comes with a font manager called "ttfmanager", and last but not least, type1.library for PS Type 1 fonts comes with "t1manager". -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Buy Long Distance with your GROUP and SAVE!!! http://click.egroups.com/1/4123/3/_/490399/_/959569001/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 29 04:35:19 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12564 invoked by uid 504); 28 May 2000 22:45:52 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 May 2000 22:45:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4073-959553948-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 22:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3048 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 22:45:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 22:45:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.171) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 22:45:46 -0000 Received: from modem-30.bromine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.33.30] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wBoV-0004z5-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 28 May 2000 23:45:44 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:35:19 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy On 28-May-00, you wrote: > MagicTV is a program that seriously reduces interlace flicker, but it only > works on screens up to 16 colours. Yeah! I've tried MagicTV but still didn't like the Interlaced screen to much :( > Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer info > somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the right type? TRied just about everything ....I have now managed to get rid of the "Squashed Bug" effect for the Workbench Drawer ...Sadly the Drawer icon has now been replaced by a Disk symbol ... But at least it is usable :) >> Notice your from AberdeenShire ( Land of my birth :) well the name says >> it all ;) >> Ever been in "Cruden Bay"? I stayed there for 6 years :) > > Not recently. Last time was a couple of years ago- decent place, amd not > quite as small as where I stay. (New Deer- know where that is?) :-) Yep! My Mother and Father Both ame from that area ;) I still have loads of relations in Aberdeenshire ( Mintlaw/ Ellon/ Turrif/ Aboyne etc ) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959553940/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Mon May 29 04:56:49 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28001 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 04:57:32 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 04:57:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4077-959576248-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 04:57:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15500 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 04:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 04:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.22) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 04:57:28 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust11.tnt4.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.31.17.11]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06718 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 21:57:25 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:56:49 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 27-May-00 at 17:45:53, Mike Leavitt wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Marion On 26-May-00, you wrote: >> On 26-May-00 at 19:06:23, Stephen Domina wrote these words of wisdom: >>> Tehy are there so that you can crerate fonts of various sizes using >>> any of the FontManager utilities. The *.otag are what it looks for >>> when creating these new fonts. The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) >>> has a new link to fonts. The creator wrote the documents sop you >>> could use IBM-PC fonts with V-NG. Try it and see. >> >> Also works great with iBrowse2.2. >> >> FWIW I have the _Bullets and _Bullets_Outlines in the same directory >> as my CGFonts. I keep my fonts seperated my type. My main FONTS: >> assign points to Sys:Fonts/BitMappedFonts with additions "ADD"s for >> Sys:Fonts/CGFonts, Sys:Fonts/PS_Type_1, and Sys:Fonts/True_Type_Fonts. >> For the most part it all works. A few of my TTF fonts aren't >> recognised though they do show up in font requestors. I could probably >> do it simpler, but this is my method. I hope the original poster finds >> his answer. > > Simpler still, the bullets and bullets_outlines are just in my basic > fonts drawyer. Yeah, they only need to be in the Fonts: path. I simply put them in my CGFonts directory since they deal with outline fonts and this was before I started using the Type1 and TTF libs and fonts. -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959576240/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mattval@lcii.net Mon May 29 08:40:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6304 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 08:48:23 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 08:48:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4078-959590102-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 08:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 9945 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 08:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 08:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.lakecountry.net) (208.161.201.10) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 08:48:20 -0000 Received: from lcii.net (mattval@mineola-ppp246.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.246]) by ch.lakecountry.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA02015 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 03:56:47 -0500 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Matthew Hart MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 03:40:39 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ian, I have installed a demo of MWB in the past and had some of the same problems. As for your monitor, I've never gotten to work with a pal so don't know much about them. Super hires always shows things super small i think... and if you don't have aga or graphics card in only four colors.... If you use MUI, then try your screen mode hi-res lace (will flicker without graphics card) remember to make the dimentions slightly wider than taller and go into the MUI drawer and then the Goodies drawer and click on "Click for Colors" then go to your pallet and click on save ... now it won't look the same when you reboot but it might clear up the icon color prob. Another thing in addition you might try is to go to the prefs dir and then into the Env-Archive dir and delete any thing that says MagicWB On 27-May-00, you wrote: > Hello All. > Anyone help with a "Self Inflicted" Problem? I have an old Pal > monitor (Acorn) which i have happily been using for the past 4 years > (can't afford any thing better at the Moment) I have been using almost the > standard Workbench (3.0) running on a "SuperHires" screen. Now I was quite > happy with this set-up, But found an old version of Magic Workbench on a > CD and thought I wouuld try and "Spruce" thing up a little. > > > > Regardless of how much I tried, I could only get a reasonable viewing > screen using "Superhires interlaced" However this suffered from so much > "flickering" and the fonts were so small that I couldn't read any text. > > So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench ....(not > the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( > > I have the Workbench *almost* back to normal (With the exception of the > "Workbench Drawer" whish is distorted and coloured Blue/Green & White. > Also if I try to switch from "Superhires" to "Hires Interlaced" For using > the internet ...The screen changes to a Total Blue Background (Screen & > Windows) with black text. (although the web pages display ok) > > I have "racked" my Brains and tried everything I can think of to rectify > this problem ....But sadly failed! > > Anyone suggest something or had the same experience. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance given. > > P.S. the random tagline says it all ;) > > > > Best Regards -- I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein -- Matthew Hart -Dj & Composer- Nocturnal Tribal Shamans Network Conspiring to write dance music and give it away freely! http://ntsn.bounce.to or http://bounce.to/ntsn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959590093/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From armin.huebner@t-online.de Mon May 29 09:51:17 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 17605 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 12:13:33 -0000 Received: from ml.egroups.com (208.50.144.77) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 12:13:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4081-959602410-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 13:13:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 26256 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 12:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 12:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout01.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.80) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 12:13:29 -0000 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 12wN3G-000146-00; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:45:42 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (340055078965-0001@[62.158.126.246]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 12wN39-1VxE3MC; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:45:35 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: [HueBiSoft] X-Sender: 340055078965-0001@t-dialin.net X-eGroups-From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin Huebner) From: armin.huebner@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 11:51:17 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. You wrote at 29-Mai-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!*": MH>> So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench MH>> ....(not the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( Did you delete the MWB entries *both* in S-S *and* U-S? Regards, Armin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959602401/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 29 10:52:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14369 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 11:11:43 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 11:11:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4079-959598697-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 11:11:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 7373 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 11:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 11:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.174) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 11:11:35 -0000 Received: from modem-98.hafnium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.226] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wNSH-00001Q-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:11:33 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 11:52:07 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!," starring Mike Leavitt... On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Colors. I used a program off Aminet called FullPalate to recolor the > MWB icons on OS 3.5. Is this similar to 3-2-8? (ie, remaps the blue/red/green type icons caused by differing MWB versions to the nice MWB gradient) Or does it convert the MagicWB icons to GlowIcons? > I must warn you it is a bitch to use in more than > 16 colors, but going back to my ECS NTSC workbench and resetting the > colors at 16 worked, and the settings held when I went back to 256 > colors at 800x600x8. I also set the WB to 800x600x16, and the changes > still held there -- that is the MWB icons still looked ok. That might > help if not solve your problem. I don't run MWB on OS 3.5, BTW. I do, but slowly it is getting superceded by Glowicons. Especially in the next couple of weeks, when hopefully the BVision arrives. :-) Sooner, Sandy, please let it be this week! -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Why should I bother typing out a tagline? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959598688/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 29 10:59:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14370 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 11:11:44 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 11:11:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4080-959598700-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 11:11:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7462 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.174) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 11:11:39 -0000 Received: from modem-98.hafnium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.226] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wNSL-00001Q-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:11:38 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 11:59:54 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!," starring Ian C Fyvie... On 29-May-00, you wrote: >> MagicTV is a program that seriously reduces interlace flicker, but it >> only works on screens up to 16 colours. > > Yeah! I've tried MagicTV but still didn't like the Interlaced screen to > much :( Mmm, it does get bugging after a while. Roll on my BVision! >> Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer >> info somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the right >> type? > > TRied just about everything ....I have now managed to get rid of the > "Squashed Bug" effect for the Workbench Drawer ...Sadly the Drawer icon > has now been replaced by a Disk symbol ... But at least it is usable :) Now you just need to muck around with IconEdit. Do you you a replacement WBInfo prog? If so, it should let you copy and paste icon images from other drives. > Yep! My Mother and Father Both ame from that area ;) I still have loads of > relations in Aberdeenshire ( Mintlaw/ Ellon/ Turrif/ Aboyne etc ) Cool. If any of them are Amiga users, let them know about agnes, the new user groups. Mailing list address is in my sig. :-) Sooner, Sandy, please let it be this week! -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Cat-"All in all, 100% successful trip." Kryten-"But sir, we lost Mr. Rimmer!" Cat-"All in all, 100% successful trip!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959598691/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon May 29 18:03:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1945 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 18:05:06 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:05:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4082-959623501-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 18:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29607 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 18:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 18:03:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:03:44 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp44.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.237]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA17980 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:33:43 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:33:20 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Marion... On 29-May-00, you wrote: >> Err... what FontManager utilities? They're not on my system. > > OS2.0-3.5 comes with CompuGraphic Outline fonts (CGTimes, CGTriumvirate, and > Lettergothic) and the outline font manager "Intellifont". If you install the > ttf.library for TrueType Fonts it comes with a font manager called > "ttfmanager", and last but not least, type1.library for PS Type 1 fonts > comes with "t1manager". OK... got all them but have not made any real use of them. The dox are horrendously long and presume we're all experts. I'm not. 8-) Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* If you want to sacrifice the admiration of many men for the criticism of one, go ahead, get married -- Katharine Hepburn *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CLICK HERE***SPECIAL OFFER***$60 in FREE calls ***SPECIAL OFFER***CLICK HERE http://click.egroups.com/1/4127/3/_/490399/_/959623501/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon May 29 18:09:04 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2285 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 18:10:27 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:10:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4083-959623821-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 18:10:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28245 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 18:09:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 18:09:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:09:28 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp44.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.237]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA18031; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:39:22 +0930 To: JAM Mail List , I-Amiga Main Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:39:04 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] FW at eGroups Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All... On 25 May 2000, I received a welcome mail from Heiko to the... finalwriter@egroups.com mailinglist informing me that I'd been added to HIS finalwriter group at eGroups and that it was the "first and one and only Final Writer Mailing List." As the above is patently not true, I thought I'd go to the eGroups URL in this mail and check it out. When I got there, I was informed that I was a guest, and when I tried to go anywhere I was told that as a guest, I didn't have access to where I was trying to go. I sent an email asking what the whole thing was all about, and at this stage have not received a reply. What's happened to the real, original mail list at... finalwriter@thepentagon.com Is this now dead and has Heiko taken over and moved us to the new site? Has anyone else received this email, and, do they know what's going on? Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography -- Paul Rodriguez *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find long lost high school friends: http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/3/_/490399/_/959623821/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon May 29 18:16:47 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2729 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 18:17:14 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:17:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4084-959624231-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 18:17:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 4242 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 18:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 18:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:17:08 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp44.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.237]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA18159 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:47:06 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:46:47 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Stephen Domina... On Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:08, you wrote... > The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, or anything else for that matter, on this site? It seems to have no search options and many links to oddly named sites such as: go.to, where.are, look.at, etc., etc. It's the most user un-friendly site I've ever been to. TIA. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A clear conscience is often the sign of a bad memory -- Graffiti *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959624231/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ianurie@redhotants.com Mon May 29 19:19:25 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 5453 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 19:05:24 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 19:05:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4086-959627118-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 19:05:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9496 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 19:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 19:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 19:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 1535 invoked by uid 101); 29 May 2000 18:01:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 195.217.161.153) (rhaa0105516@212.41.49.180) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:01:34 -0000 To: "Ian C Fyvie" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <934.184T1282T11594953ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Ian Urie" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 29 May 2000 19:19:25 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-May-00 04:35:19, Ian C Fyvie said about [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!: >Hello Sandy >On 28-May-00, you wrote: >> MagicTV is a program that seriously reduces interlace flicker, but it only >> works on screens up to 16 colours. >Yeah! I've tried MagicTV but still didn't like the Interlaced screen to much >:( >> Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer info >> somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the right type? >TRied just about everything ....I have now managed to get rid of the >"Squashed Bug" effect for the Workbench Drawer ...Sadly the Drawer icon has >now been replaced by a Disk symbol ... But at least it is usable :) Go into Dopus, use select #?.info ,use "delete" all. Select all directories, click "add icon"! There, that better now ? -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 There is always a law against doing anything interesting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959627118/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From armin.huebner@t-online.de Mon May 29 19:54:26 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8413 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 19:55:25 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 19:55:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4087-959630121-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 19:55:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 27630 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 19:55:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 19:55:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout06.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.19) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 19:55:20 -0000 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 12wVd9-0003OY-05; Mon, 29 May 2000 21:55:19 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (340055078965-0001@[193.159.66.236]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 12wVcx-1qwRU0C; Mon, 29 May 2000 21:55:07 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: [HueBiSoft] X-Sender: 340055078965-0001@t-dialin.net X-eGroups-From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin Huebner) From: armin.huebner@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:54:26 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Ian. You wrote at 30-Mai-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome!*": ICF> Yeah! I've managed to almost get everything back to normal :) The ICF> only problem remaining is I can use *any screenmode* in anything ICF> more than 32 colours. If I try to go beyond 32 colours the screen ICF> just locks up and i am forced to reboot :( Are you sure that installing MWB is the reason for that? I have been using MWB icons for years now, because I like them, but never saw a connection between MWB and the selection of screenmodes. Regards, Armin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959630121/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Mon May 29 21:10:59 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24953 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 19:50:47 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 19:50:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4108-959716245-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 19:50:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26628 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 19:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 19:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vi-b1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de) (195.182.96.61) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 19:50:43 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (f-223.hamburg.ipdial.viaginterkom.de [62.180.159.223]) by vi-b1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11474 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:48:08 +0200 (MET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stefan Schulz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:10:59 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] where does it hide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I turn on my Amiga and press Amiga-V it pastes: ----------snip--------- IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly EndIF C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s" Execute T:M C:Delete >NIL: T:M EndIF ----------snip--------- Where does it hide these lines? Not in envarc: it seems... Gruss, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959716243/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Mon May 29 21:21:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14338 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:29:05 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:29:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4090-959635742-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:29:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22347 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.85) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:29:01 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust166.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.166]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06252 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 14:29:00 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:21:45 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 28-May-00 at 14:22:14, Ian C Fyvie wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Andrew On 28-May-00, you wrote: > >>> >>> >> >> Ok, I'm still not sure how MWB can be causing you so much problem, as >> it's only replacement Icons. Although, you say you were running you >> workbench in superhires??? 1280x256??? uch! thats a 4x1 proportion >> screenmode! You really should be using a 1x1 screenmode. > > Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor ATM. So > stuck with this old Pal thing. Problem is that the standard "High Res" is > so big that it leaves little room to work on the Workbench screen. "high > Res Laced" is OK but the "Flicker" bugs the old eyes to much! > Super Hi-res provides a nice sized screen with no flicker and easily > readable text, Combined with FBlit I can run it at 128 colours and still > have in excess of 1.5 meg of chip Ram left ( and yes I do have a Back Pic > on Workbench ;) > >> If you want MWB, all you need is a little program called, 'MagicColour' I >> think (to sort the palette out) and you really should be running your >> workbench in hires-laced (640x512). > > Don't want MWB ...In fact the CD is now lying somewhere in a Field about > 500 yards from my house (Makes a great frisbee ;) > >> Of course, if you don't like the MWB look, try 'NewIcons' instead:) > > Tried Newicons but it seemed to eat up Chip Ram worse that my Screenmode > :( How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the system use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959635742/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 29 22:10:41 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15436 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:46:59 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:46:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4094-959636816-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25696 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.175) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:44:44 -0000 Received: from modem-153.potassium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.18.153] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wXL0-00028a-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 22:44:42 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.potassium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 29 May 0 22:43:22 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <393346C8.1422C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:10:41 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday May 30 2000, Tony P. Parr said to All: >> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. TPP> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. TPP> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. TPP> or anything else TPP> for that matter, on this site? It seems to have no search options and TPP> many links to oddly named sites such as: go.to, where.are, look.at, TPP> etc., etc. It's a portal only. It's designed to tell you about new Voyager3 updates, releases and utilities. TPP> It's the most user un-friendly site I've ever been to. TIA. You know where to complain to :) MAILTO:webmaster@vapor.com?subject=V3Portal -- Neil Williams, Yourolund mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/4634/3/_/490399/_/959636816/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Mon May 29 22:34:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14840 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:36:53 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:36:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4092-959636211-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:36:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20199 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:33:30 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p20.lafn.org [192.168.11.20] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28144 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 14:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:34:36 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello armin.huebner@t-online.de On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Hello. > > > You wrote at 29-Mai-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion > Welcome!*": > > >>> So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench >>> ....(not the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( > > Did you delete the MWB entries *both* in S-S *and* U-S? > > Regards, Armin All you really have to do is to comment them out, but deleting would be better if you know you don't wnt to go back to it. This should do it, but it won't get rid of the Icons. I have the things on my OS 3.5 machine, which has never had MWB on it, because the programs were installed with them by default. Worse, the colors were messed up and I had to use FullPallate to fix them. That may be his problem with the WB Icon. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959636211/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Mon May 29 22:35:25 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14649 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:34:20 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:34:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4091-959636057-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:34:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 20755 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:34:17 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p20.lafn.org [192.168.11.20] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28204 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:35:25 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ian On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Hello armin.huebner@t-online.de > > On 29-May-00, you wrote: > >>>> So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench >>>> ....(not the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( >> >> Did you delete the MWB entries *both* in S-S *and* U-S? > > Yeah! I've managed to almost get everything back to normal :) The only > problem remaining is I can use *any screenmode* in anything more than > 32 colours. If I try to go beyond 32 colours the screen just locks up > and i am forced to reboot :( > > Best How much Ram do you have? Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/959636057/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Mon May 29 22:38:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14889 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:37:53 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:37:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4093-959636269-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:37:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 30963 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:37:49 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p20.lafn.org [192.168.11.20] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28415 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 14:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:38:57 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tony On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Greetings Stephen Domina... > > On Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:08, you wrote... > >> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. > > Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. > > OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, or anything else > for that matter, on this site? It seems to have no search options and > many links to oddly named sites such as: go.to, where.are, look.at, > etc., etc. > > It's the most user un-friendly site I've ever been to. TIA. > > Cop 'U Later... Tiny > You're right. If it's a file, the easiest place to find it would be in downloads, but you may have to check more than one country as different countries have some variation in the files they cary. First goround I had to go to Germany to find Voyager 3.2 and ist plugins. The next night they were finally on the US site. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/4633/3/_/490399/_/959636269/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 00:04:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3730 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 18:32:38 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:32:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4085-959625153-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 18:32:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31405 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 18:32:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 18:32:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.175) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 18:32:32 -0000 Received: from modem-117.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.245] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wUL0-00013u-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 19:32:31 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 19:04:54 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello armin.huebner@t-online.de On 29-May-00, you wrote: >>> So I had to "TRY" to un-install the version of Magic Workbench >>> ....(not the easiest task I have ever undertaken :( > > Did you delete the MWB entries *both* in S-S *and* U-S? Yeah! I've managed to almost get everything back to normal :) The only problem remaining is I can use *any screenmode* in anything more than 32 colours. If I try to go beyond 32 colours the screen just locks up and i am forced to reboot :( Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Marion, On 29-May-00, you wrote: >>>> > How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the system > use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. Do you think this FBlit might work on say SequencerOne+ that uses chip ram for the samples. Or does it just focus on graphics? SeqOne may be programed to look for this address.:( Regards -- Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying. -- Woody Allen -- Matthew Hart -Dj & Composer- Nocturnal Tribal Shamans Network Conspiring to write dance music and give it away freely! http://ntsn.bounce.to or http://bounce.to/ntsn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959650609/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Tue May 30 01:45:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22674 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 00:44:20 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 00:44:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4097-959647458-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 00:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 30405 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 00:44:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 00:44:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 00:44:16 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p06.lafn.org [192.168.16.6] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA11600 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:45:23 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ian On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Hello Marion > > On 29-May-00, you wrote: > >>> Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor >>> ATM. So stuck with this old Pal thing. Problem is that the standard >>> "High Res" is so big that it leaves little room to work on the >>> Workbench screen. "high Res Laced" is OK but the "Flicker" bugs the >>> old eyes to much! Super Hi-res provides a nice sized screen with no >>> flicker and easily readable text, _#Combined with FBlit I can run it >>> at 128 colours_ and still have > in >>> excess of 1.5 meg of chip Ram left ( and yes I do have a Back Pic on >>> Workbench ;) > >> How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the >> system use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. > > As I said above I do use FBlit (Couldn't live without it ;) ....32 meg > Fast ram. > > Best Now that I think of it though, even with fblit, this could be a chip ram limitation. Not everything goes to fastram afterall. Still, even with AGA, you ought to be able to manage 64 colors. What's running in the background? Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CLICK HERE***SPECIAL OFFER***$60 in FREE calls ***SPECIAL OFFER***CLICK HERE http://click.egroups.com/1/4127/3/_/490399/_/959647457/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 02:11:30 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13440 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:12:26 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:12:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4088-959634742-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 8519 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.173) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:12:20 -0000 Received: from modem-42.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.36.42] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wWpe-0001J9-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 22:12:18 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:11:30 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello armin.huebner@t-online.de On 29-May-00, you wrote: >> Yeah! I've managed to almost get everything back to normal :) The >> only problem remaining is I can use *any screenmode* in anything >> more than 32 colours. If I try to go beyond 32 colours the screen >> just locks up and i am forced to reboot :( > > Are you sure that installing MWB is the reason for that? > I have been using MWB icons for years now, because I like them, but > never saw a connection between MWB and the selection of screenmodes. Not positive M8 ...But prior to installing MWB ...I often switched to HiRes Laced (Full colour) for web browsing. In an attempt to get rid of Magic Work bench I have installed "Newicons" so I suppose it could be that causing the screen colour selection problems. Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959634741/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 02:16:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13444 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 21:12:26 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:12:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4089-959634743-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 21:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8749 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.173) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 21:12:22 -0000 Received: from modem-42.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.36.42] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wWpg-0001J9-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 22:12:20 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <934.184T1282T11594953ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:16:12 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ian On 29-May-00, you wrote: >>> Dunno why that would be. Is it the disk.info on WB, or is it a drawer >>> info somewhere? Have you checked that you're saving the icon as the >>> right type? > >> TRied just about everything ....I have now managed to get rid of the >> "Squashed Bug" effect for the Workbench Drawer ...Sadly the Drawer icon >> has now been replaced by a Disk symbol ... But at least it is usable :) > > Go into Dopus, use select #?.info ,use "delete" all. Select all > directories, click "add icon"! There, that better now ? Got the drawer back now :) Only got a problem that I can use a screen with more than 32 colours without the "miggie" Freezing up on me ( Oh! and another strange one! The prefs drawer in WB is the size of a standard "Keyhole" Dragging it out "Clean up" and Snapshot makes no difference, it just goes back to the Keyhole after a re-boot) Hey! I forgot you were on this list ....Gave me quite a shock there ;) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959634743/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 03:31:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18465 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 22:48:28 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 22:48:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4095-959640506-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 22:48:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20674 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 22:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 22:48:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.177) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 22:48:24 -0000 Received: from modem-41.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.41] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wYKb-0006cu-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 23:48:22 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:31:53 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Marion On 29-May-00, you wrote: >> Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor ATM. >> So stuck with this old Pal thing. Problem is that the standard "High Res" >> is so big that it leaves little room to work on the Workbench screen. >> "high Res Laced" is OK but the "Flicker" bugs the old eyes to much! Super >> Hi-res provides a nice sized screen with no flicker and easily readable >> text, _#Combined with FBlit I can run it at 128 colours_ and still have in >> excess of 1.5 meg of chip Ram left ( and yes I do have a Back Pic on >> Workbench ;) > How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the system > use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. As I said above I do use FBlit (Couldn't live without it ;) ....32 meg Fast ram. Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959640505/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 04:16:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18470 invoked by uid 504); 29 May 2000 22:48:29 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 May 2000 22:48:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4096-959640506-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2000 22:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20727 invoked from network); 29 May 2000 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 May 2000 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.177) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 May 2000 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from modem-41.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.41] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wYKe-0006cu-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 29 May 2000 23:48:24 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:05 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Hello Ian > >> Yeah! I've managed to almost get everything back to normal :) The only >> problem remaining is I can use *any screenmode* in anything more than >> 32 colours. If I try to go beyond 32 colours the screen just locks up >> and i am forced to reboot :( > How much Ram do you have? 2 Chip & 32 fast (using FBlit) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959640506/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From badger@ducklington.u-net.com Tue May 30 07:40:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1378 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 07:04:46 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 07:04:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4099-959670283-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 07:04:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 17550 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.77] (helo=p77.nas1.is5.u-net.net) by mserv1c.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #35) id 12wg4E-00030n-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:03:59 +0100 Organization: Badger Message-Id: To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#000000A8] From: "peter j west" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 30 May 100 07:40:21 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'Am looking for help/advise - I've just, well yesterday, bought an A2000 from a car-boot(=A310). It's a rev' 6.2 board, non up-graded, with a card carrying a hard drive and what looks like 4meg' of Ram, plus the front panel from an A1500 with it's two floppy drives. So far all I've done is powered it up, the power supply, hard drive and one floppie seem to work.('t other one's missing a jumper) I think my main question is - do I now expand the A2000, or my A1200 030/50 34meg? TIA & Regards, Badger. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations.=20 Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959670282/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue May 30 09:32:55 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 09:32:11 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 09:32:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4100-959679129-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 09:32:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14423 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 09:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 09:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail02.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.65.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 09:32:08 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.240]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Tue, 30 May 2000 19:32:24 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:32:55 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 30-May-00, peter j west wrote: > 'Am looking for help/advise - I've just, well yesterday, bought an > A2000 from a car-boot(£10). It's a rev' 6.2 board, non up-graded, > with a card carrying a hard drive and what looks like 4meg' of Ram, > plus the front panel from an A1500 with it's two floppy drives. So > far all I've done is powered it up, the power supply, hard drive and > one floppie seem to work.('t other one's missing a jumper) > > I think my main question is - do I now expand the A2000, or my > A1200 030/50 34meg? The *first* thing you need to do is change the clock battery... Second, lubricate the rails in the disk drive/s. Then, see if you can pick up a GVP board from somewhere. Try here..... http://amibench.org for a used one.... Have fun.... -- _________________________________________ Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find long lost high school friends: http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/3/_/490399/_/959679128/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Tue May 30 09:33:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10767 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 09:33:45 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 09:33:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4101-959679223-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 09:33:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16289 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 09:33:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 09:33:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.50) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 09:33:43 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust110.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.110]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA19268 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 02:33:41 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 05:33:01 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-May-00 at 14:16:47, Tony P. Parr wrote these words of wisdom: > Greetings Stephen Domina... > > On Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:08, you wrote... > >> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. > > Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. > > OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, or anything else > for that matter, on this site? It seems to have no search options and > many links to oddly named sites such as: go.to, where.are, look.at, > etc., etc. > > It's the most user un-friendly site I've ever been to. TIA. Go here http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959679222/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Tue May 30 10:25:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14398 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 10:26:39 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 10:26:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4102-959682393-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 10:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12674 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 10:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 10:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.22) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 10:26:32 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust110.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.110]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA06120 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:26:30 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:25:39 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-May-00 at 21:34:08, Matthew Hart wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Marion, On 29-May-00, you wrote: > >>>>> :( >> >> How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the system >> use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. > > Do you think this FBlit might work on say SequencerOne+ that uses chip ram > for the samples. Or does it just focus on graphics? SeqOne may be > programed to look for this address.:( I do not know. I think it is only for graphics operations. I have never used it since I have a graphics card, but many people without one seem to like it, and it is still being developed. -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find long lost high school friends: http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/3/_/490399/_/959682392/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From braker@danenet.wicip.org Tue May 30 14:49:38 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1290 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 14:51:10 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 14:51:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4104-959698259-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 14:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24188 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 14:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 14:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 14:49:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 30633 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 14:49:43 -0000 Received: from imu.egroups.com (HELO mu.egroups.com) (10.1.1.40) by iqg.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 May 2000 14:49:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: braker@danenet.wicip.org Received: from [10.1.10.111] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 15:49:43 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: <8h0ke2+h240@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "Steve Braker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:49:38 -0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] English-language MovieShop forum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MovieShop users -- with VLab Motion or DraCo hardware -- are welcome to join members of the ancient Videotec Listserv at its new eGroups home. To subscribe to this English-language list, send a blank message to , or go to http://www.egroups.com/group/MovieShop/ . You will receive further information after subscribing. If you have trouble with either of these methods, please write to braker bo worthwhilefilms gla com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959698258/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue May 30 16:45:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10162 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 16:46:44 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:46:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4107-959705188-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 16:46:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1475 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 16:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 16:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail02.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.65.91) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:44:36 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([203.134.101.105]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 31 May 2000 02:44:53 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 02:45:36 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 31-May-00, Tony P. Parr wrote: > I think I asked you before Col, anywhere in OZ to get second-hand > stuff - pârticularly GVP? Adelaide would be even better. > > Regards... Tony Yes, quite a few places, Me for one !! Sunshine Coast Audio & TV 07-54445445 Then there's: Synapse Comp.. 07-38990980 Unitech Elect... 02-98203555 MVB Computers... 03-97256255 Comprepair.. 03-93315600 AmigaTech... 03-94365555 Byte One... 03-97523991 IAM Australia.. 08-92710624 GSoft.. 08-82841266 These are some I can recall off hand... I don't know how many are still around.... -- _________________________________________ Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/959705186/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Tue May 30 17:09:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7532 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 16:11:00 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:11:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4105-959703038-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 16:10:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19456 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 16:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 16:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:09:47 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp21.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.214]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA12552 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 01:39:51 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 02:39:37 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Peter... On 30-May-00, you wrote: > 'Am looking for help/advise - I've just, well yesterday, bought an > A2000 from a car-boot(=A310). It's a rev' 6.2 board, non up-graded, with > a card carrying a hard drive and what looks like 4meg' of Ram, plus > the front panel from an A1500 with it's two floppy drives. So far all > I've done is powered it up, the power supply, hard drive and one > floppie seem to work.('t other one's missing a jumper) >=20 > I think my main question is - do I now expand the A2000, or my > A1200 030/50 34meg? The best advice I can give is, bundle it up and send it to me. I'll give you =A320 for it. 8-) Regards... Tony --=20 */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations.=20 Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959703036/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 30 17:11:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20171 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 11:48:34 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 11:48:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4103-959687311-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 11:48:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27837 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 11:48:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 11:48:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 11:48:29 -0000 Received: from modem-3.cobalt.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.26.3] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12wkVW-00001v-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:48:27 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:11:45 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike On 29-May-00, you wrote: > Now that I think of it though, even with fblit, this could be a chip ram > limitation. Not everything goes to fastram afterall. Still, even with > AGA, you ought to be able to manage 64 colors. What's running in the > background? OK! Your mail got me thinking :) I totally disabled my WBstartup drawer ...Then tried rebooting ....WoooHooo! all the Newicons displayed in the correct colours & I could easily switch from Superhires to an Interlaced screen using full colour (And the interlaced screen didn't come out that horrible blue colour) I then tried re-installing all the little patches one&one and continually testing the Icons & Screenmodes. I discovered that both "Autorun" & "Tools Dameon" when installed caused the screen to lock up if switched. :) Workbench now working properly again I did use the Tools Dameon quite a bit, but as I have "Netconnect" installed, I just have to move my Fav. programs to the Menu Bar. Thanks for the "Suggestion" and to all who have responded over the past few days. A Happy Ferret once again :) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/959687309/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Tue May 30 17:16:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8203 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 16:19:02 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:19:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4106-959703531-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 17:18:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 10220 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 16:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 16:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 16:17:06 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp21.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.214]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA12687 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 01:47:09 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 02:46:56 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Colin... On 30-May-00, you wrote: >> I think my main question is - do I now expand the A2000, or my >> A1200 030/50 34meg? >=20 > The *first* thing you need to do is change the clock battery... > Second, lubricate the rails in the disk drive/s. >=20 > Then, see if you can pick up a GVP board from somewhere. > Try here..... http://amibench.org for a used one.... I think I asked you before Col, anywhere in OZ to get second-hand stuff - p=E2rticularly GVP? Adelaide would be even better. Regards... 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Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959703529/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Tue May 30 21:48:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2434 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 21:49:08 -0000 Received: from jj.egroups.com (208.50.144.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 21:49:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4109-959723346-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 21:49:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15269 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 21:48:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 21:48:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 21:48:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5283 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 21:48:03 -0000 Received: from ppp-2-42.cvx1.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.137.42) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 30 May 2000 21:48:03 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:48:15 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: where does it hide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stefan On 29-May-00, you wrote: >SS >SS When I turn on my Amiga and press Amiga-V it pastes: >SS >SS ----------snip--------- >SS IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors >SS IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly >SS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly >SS EndIF >SS >SS C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT >SS "DEVS:Monitors/%s" >SS Execute T:M >SS C:Delete >NIL: T:M >SS EndIF >SS ----------snip--------- >SS >SS Where does it hide these lines? Not in envarc: it seems... >SS >SS Gruss, >SS Stefan Workbench drawer (whatever you have named it) S:startup-sequence Handle with care :-)) CU Later Cally ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959723344/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed May 31 00:01:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8959 invoked by uid 504); 30 May 2000 23:16:01 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 30 May 2000 23:16:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4110-959728547-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2000 23:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 11884 invoked from network); 30 May 2000 23:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 May 2000 23:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 May 2000 23:15:41 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax03-053.enterprise.net [212.161.114.53]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA25346 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 00:15:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:01:12 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: where does it hide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > When I turn on my Amiga and press Amiga-V it pastes: What pasting program do you use? > ----------snip--------- > IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors > IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly > DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly > EndIF > > C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s" > Execute T:M > C:Delete >NIL: T:M > EndIF > ----------snip--------- > > Where does it hide these lines? Not in envarc: it seems... It is part of your s:startup-sequence See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Tiger stripes are like human fingerprints - no two tigers have the same pattern of stripes. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/959728545/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 31 01:03:48 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14070 invoked by uid 504); 31 May 2000 01:03:59 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 31 May 2000 01:03:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4111-959735032-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2000 01:03:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 8453 invoked from network); 31 May 2000 01:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 May 2000 01:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail02.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.65.91) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 May 2000 01:02:43 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.158]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 31 May 2000 11:02:59 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:03:48 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: where does it hide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30-May-00, Stefan Schulz wrote: > When I turn on my Amiga and press Amiga-V it pastes: -snip example- > Where does it hide these lines? Not in envarc: it seems... > Gruss, *CLIPS*: If you havn't assigned it to ram:clips in your S-S then it must be picking it up from the old default location devs:clipboards directory. It is not used these days, clips are put in clips: assignment, but I am not sure if it still checks in there, if clips: is empty, probably still does. ? Same thing goes for the old devs:Mountlist file, it's not used anymore as all the mountable device entries are put in devs:Dosdrivers, however, "Mount" will still look for/in it, if it can't find it in the dosdrivers drawer. Isn't backwards compatibility wonderfull..... (:/ _________________________________________ Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hot off the press- summer's here! School's out and it's sizzling hot. Whether you're planning a graduation party, a summer brunch, or simple birthday party, shop GreatEntertaining.com before your next celebration. http://click.egroups.com/1/4473/3/_/490399/_/959735029/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Wed May 31 01:08:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1912 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2000 00:59:27 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 00:59:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4115-959821165-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2000 00:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12079 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 00:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 00:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 00:59:24 -0000 Received: from icon-1.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-1.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.1]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA23284 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 19:59:45 -0500 (CDT) To: "Joe Callaghan" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1670.185T551T11482708wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 30 May 2000 19:8:11 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: where does it hide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30-May-00 15:48:15 joe@cally.abelgratis.com Joe Callaghan wrote: >Hello Stefan >On 29-May-00, you wrote: >>SS >>SS When I turn on my Amiga and press Amiga-V it pastes: >>SS >>SS ----------snip--------- >>SS IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors >>SS IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly >>SS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly >>SS EndIF >>SS >>SS C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT >>SS "DEVS:Monitors/%s" >>SS Execute T:M >>SS C:Delete >NIL: T:M >>SS EndIF >>SS ----------snip--------- >>SS >>SS Where does it hide these lines? Not in envarc: it seems... >>SS >>SS Gruss, >>SS Stefan >Workbench drawer (whatever you have named it) S:startup-sequence >Handle with care :-)) Hang on a bit. Stefan, you say that *when you turn on your Amiga* you press Amiga-V and it pastes the above text in, right? Do you mean that you're pressing those keys during boot-up? If this is the case, this is enlightening for me, as it means that the Amiga is already using the clipboard *during the boot process* as that is where anything that gets pasted by the Amiga-V combination comes from---the clipboard (in most Amigas this is RAM:clipboards/). Why it would do that is beyond me at the moment. :) -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 30-May-0 19:02:14 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Jeremiah 42:20 that you made a fatal mistake when you sent me to the LORD your God and said, `Pray to the LORD our God for us; tell us everything he says and we will do it.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don=92t buy CDs or DVDs until you see this new web site http://click.egroups.com/1/4741/3/_/490399/_/959821161/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Wed May 31 01:11:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14382 invoked by uid 504); 31 May 2000 01:12:33 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 31 May 2000 01:12:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4112-959735542-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2000 01:12:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20687 invoked from network); 31 May 2000 01:11:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 May 2000 01:11:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.50) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 May 2000 01:11:45 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust143.tnt3.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.31.15.143]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02487 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 18:11:43 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:11:01 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Any Suggestion Welcome! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-May-00 at 23:31:53, Ian C Fyvie wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Marion On 29-May-00, you wrote: > >>> Yeah! I'm an "Oddball" :) .... Sadly can't afford a Decent monitor ATM. >>> So stuck with this old Pal thing. Problem is that the standard "High >>> Res" is so big that it leaves little room to work on the Workbench >>> screen. "high Res Laced" is OK but the "Flicker" bugs the old eyes to >>> much! Super Hi-res provides a nice sized screen with no flicker and >>> easily readable text, _#Combined with FBlit I can run it at 128 colours_ >>> and still have > in >>> excess of 1.5 meg of chip Ram left ( and yes I do have a Back Pic on >>> Workbench ;) > >> How much fast ram do you have? Have you tried FBlit? It makes the system >> use fast ram instead of chip ram for graphics. > > As I said above I do use FBlit (Couldn't live without it ;) ....32 meg > Fast ram. Ooops :-) -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hot off the press- summer's here! School's out and it's sizzling hot. 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Parr wrote these words of wisdom: >> Greetings Stephen Domina... >> >> On Sun, 28 May 2000 03:06:08, you wrote... >> >>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. >> >> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. >> >> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, or anything else >> for that matter, on this site? It seems to have no search options and >> many links to oddly named sites such as: go.to, where.are, look.at, >> etc., etc. >> >> It's the most user un-friendly site I've ever been to. TIA. > > Go here http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ > > Thanks Marion, I took a brief look at it and downloaded it. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hot off the press- summer's here! School's out and it's sizzling hot. 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Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:13:29 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A2000, help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30-May-00 at 05:32:55, Colin Wenzel wrote these words of wisdom: > On 30-May-00, peter j west wrote: >> 'Am looking for help/advise - I've just, well yesterday, bought an >> A2000 from a car-boot(=A310). It's a rev' 6.2 board, non up-graded, >> with a card carrying a hard drive and what looks like 4meg' of Ram, >> plus the front panel from an A1500 with it's two floppy drives. So >> far all I've done is powered it up, the power supply, hard drive and >> one floppie seem to work.('t other one's missing a jumper) >>=20 >> I think my main question is - do I now expand the A2000, or my >> A1200 030/50 34meg? >=20 > The *first* thing you need to do is change the clock battery... > Second, lubricate the rails in the disk drive/s. >=20 > Then, see if you can pick up a GVP board from somewhere. > Try here..... http://amibench.org for a used one.... >=20 > Have fun.... Or go PPC and really see some speed coming from your Amiga(s) :-) But you'd have to wait for the AmiJoe 2000 cards to use PPC on the 2000. =20 --=20 Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hot off the press- summer's here! School's out and it's sizzling hot. 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