From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Thu Jun 01 19:15:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27429 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2000 18:18:49 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 18:18:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4116-959883527-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2000 18:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26577 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 18:18:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 18:18:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 18:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 20166 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 18:18:03 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-238.cvx5.telinco.net (HELO cally.abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.152.238) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 18:18:03 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:15:23 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, #I thought I had posted this already but the only response has been a #complaint from amigactive moderator that I cross-posted. No intention to do #that, but I'm still finding my way. I did think I had copied it to an individual #user. Anyway.............sorry if this has already been sent. # #I want to get max performance out of my A1200for internet and graphics. Seems prob is AGA set is slow + many things rely on chip mem and ignore 32mb of fast ram. I have Apollo 1232........... /030 Accelerator NO FPU have mmu but try options like copyback, virtual..........nothing seems to happen. CPU CACHE BURST is required and apparently is accepted and implemented - but how do I know? Doc with accelerator says FPU required is Motorola MC68882FN40A (PLCC package) says should be ok at 50mhz.......does this mean it NEEDS 50 mhz or ok up to 50mhz? I intend to get a FPU but how can I check whether CPU is 25.........40.......or 50mhz? (Not towered so 68040 or 60 seem not suitable accell to get) i.e. stuck with 030:-( also cash not abundant :( Before lashing out for FPU I would like to be clear what involved and improvements to expect. Got FBlit (3.26..?) from Aminet - no docs - how use it ? I would be grateful for any advice on how to speed things up. Have found out how to save on chip mem with screens/colours *Using:* *A1200* *68030mmu* *Wordworth (1V..?) Ai200/2000 version* - HORRIBLY Slow - doesn't seem to know about fast ram. *Miami 3.2b* *YAM 2.0* *VOYAGER 3.2* *OS 3.0* *KS 39.xx* *32mb fast RAM* *500meg HD* *US Robotics Courier V34 modem* Miami says V43bis when online but maybe because interface is set to 38K. max achieved on downloading is about 3,400 cps Thanks in advance Cally -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ fnCentral.com cuts the cable. 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OPEN A FREE ACCOUNT NOW. http://click.egroups.com/1/4624/3/_/490399/_/959883522/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dirk@theripper.org.uk Thu Jun 01 22:13:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9013 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2000 21:17:23 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 21:17:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4118-959894239-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2000 21:17:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 2676 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 21:17:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 21:17:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lilly.ping.de) (195.37.120.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 21:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 10342 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2000 21:15:24 -0000 Received: (ofmipd 195.37.122.75); 1 Jun 2000 21:15:02 -0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@egroups.com Organization: The Ripper In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/Amiga 1.4.4 [#000188DC] - http://www.vapor.com/ From: "Dirk Harlaar" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 1 Jun 2000 23:13:56 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Before lashing out for FPU I would like to be clear what involved and > > improvements to expect. > > Sorry can't help (No FPU myself) But I think it only helps with quicker > calculations (or something like that) An FPU will help speed up math intensive programs no-end. 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Can't help you with this one (skint myself) :( I'm sure you know that was an explanation - not a request :-) >ICF Sorry can't help (No FPU myself) But I think it only helps with quicker >ICF calculations (or something like that) >ICF You've helped lots with the stuff above that I HAVEN'T displayed. Many thanks to you and Mathew for your very welcome help :-)) Regards, Cally -- I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde -||||| A1200. 68030. 32Mb 500megHD |||||- 3 months ago I thought a mod was a guy with a Vespa and libs were strictly for women ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. 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OPEN A FREE ACCOUNT NOW. http://click.egroups.com/1/4647/3/_/490399/_/959895610/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jun 02 01:38:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1224 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2000 19:45:43 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 19:45:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4117-959888741-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2000 19:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 31296 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 19:45:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 19:45:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 19:45:39 -0000 Received: from modem-7.platinum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.58.135] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12xauP-0006uw-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 20:45:37 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 20:38:44 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe On 01-Jun-00, you wrote: > #I want to get max performance out of my A1200for internet and graphics. > Seems prob is AGA set is slow + many things rely on chip mem and ignore > 32mb of fast ram. > I have Apollo 1232........... /030 Accelerator NO FPU have mmu but try > options like copyback, virtual..........nothing seems to happen. CPU CACHE > BURST is required and apparently is accepted and implemented - but how do > I know? Go to the Workbench menu bar select "Workbench Execute/command" a small requestor will open ....Type in CPU and press return or click OK. This will tell you if Cache burst is on! > Doc with accelerator says FPU required is Motorola MC68882FN40A (PLCC > package) says should be ok at 50mhz.......does this mean it NEEDS 50 mhz > or ok up to 50mhz? Not sure! But I would have thought that if your Accelerator Doc mentions that the FPU should work OK with it! > I intend to get a FPU but how can I check whether CPU is > 25.........40.......or 50mhz? Go to the Aminet and download "sysinfo" this will tell you all you need to know, also handy for turning your Cache's on or off. ( If I remember correctly when you open sysinfo, you need to click on "Speed" before the mhz value is displayed. > also cash not abundant :( Sorry mate! Can't help you with this one (skint myself) :( > Before lashing out for FPU I would like to be clear what involved and > improvements to expect. Sorry can't help (No FPU myself) But I think it only helps with quicker calculations (or something like that) Hope this helps a little :) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/4634/3/_/490399/_/959888735/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Fri Jun 02 03:53:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19186 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 03:26:59 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 03:26:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4121-959916414-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 03:26:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 686 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 03:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 03:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 03:26:52 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla1-p23.lafn.org [192.168.20.23] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA17711 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:53:31 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joe On 01-Jun-00, you wrote: > > Got FBlit (3.26..?) from Aminet - no docs - how use it ? 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Open your FREE account today! http://click.egroups.com/1/4648/3/_/490399/_/959916407/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Fri Jun 02 06:00:40 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 394 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:28 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4122-959925806-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 06:03:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20905 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 32315 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:22 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-95.cvx4.telinco.net (HELO cally.abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.148.95) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:22 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 06:00:40 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dirk On 01-Jun-00 Dirk Harlaar Whispered in my Ear Expect increased performance in raytracing programs, >DH graphics programs such as ArtEffect and ImageFX and DrawStudio, >DH web-browsers have special fpu version which help in image decoding >DH IIRC. So, it depends on what you do with your Amiga if you need one or >DH not. I never regretted getting an FPU. 1st off, Voyager images decoding But graphics/anim later. also Background music (mods players) heavy on chip mem - Miami will fail to connect if music playing - Is music processing math-intensive? Many thanks Cally -- Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/959925799/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From armin.huebner@t-online.de Fri Jun 02 06:06:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 746 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 06:07:27 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:07:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4124-959926044-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 06:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29791 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 06:07:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 06:07:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout06.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.19) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:07:23 -0000 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 12xkc5-0003Qh-00; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:07:21 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (340055078965-0001@[193.159.65.255]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 12xkc0-1sBA81C; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:07:16 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: [HueBiSoft] X-Sender: 340055078965-0001@t-dialin.net X-eGroups-From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin Huebner) From: armin.huebner@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:06:02 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Joe. You wrote at 01-Jun-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] 68030 CPU/FPU speed*": JC> Doc with accelerator says FPU required is Motorola MC68882FN40A JC> (PLCC package) says should be ok at 50mhz.......does this mean it JC> NEEDS 50 mhz or ok up to 50mhz? If your cpu is running with 50MHz, you will need a 50MHz fpu. JC> I intend to get a FPU but how can I check whether CPU is JC> 25.........40.......or 50mhz? Get 'WhichAmiga' from Aminet (output see signature) JC> Got FBlit (3.26..?) from Aminet - no docs - how use it ? Goto #http://www.tpec.u-net.com/# to get the newest version with docs. JC> I would be grateful for any advice on how to speed JC> things up. Get the 'MmuLibs' from Aminet and read the docs. The most important prog there is 'MuFastExec' combined with 'MuMove4k', which will give you an immense speed up. Regards, Armin -- ________________________________________________________________________ Computer : Amiga 1200 / Infinitiv Tower Central Processing Unit: MC68040 40.0 MHz Floating Point Unit: 68040fpu Memory Management Unit: 68040mmu running Custom graphics chip: AGA Lisa 4203 (rev 0) Custom animation chip: AGA PAL Alice 8374, rev 3-4 Other custom chip(s): Paula 8364 (rev 0), Gayle (rev 13) Graphics system: Amiga AGA display bandwidth: 4x Hardware Clock: clock found Max. Chipmem available: 2032 K Max. Fastmem available: 65040 K Max. Virtmem available: 32 K ROM chip version: 40.68 (Kickstart 3.1) Workbench version: 44.2 (Workbench 3.5) SetPatch version: 44.6 Expansion board(s): 8512/17: Phase 5 Digital Products Blizzard 12x0 (@$00EA0000 128k) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/959926037/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Fri Jun 02 06:40:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 406 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:36 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4123-959925807-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 06:03:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20217 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 32317 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 06:03:24 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-95.cvx4.telinco.net (HELO cally.abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.148.95) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 06:03:24 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 06:40:44 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike On 02-Jun-00 Mike Leavitt Whispered in my Ear FBlit has an extensive readme file or docs, one, and reading >ML them is why I decided not to use it (academic now, I have a graphics >ML card on my A3000). Thanks for the encouragement !! :) Regards Cally (I've spotted the Date mistake at top - will investigate) -- Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero -||||| A1200. 68030. 32Mb 500megHD |||||- 3 months ago I thought a mod was a guy with a Vespa and libs were strictly for women ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/959925800/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dirk@theripper.org.uk Fri Jun 02 11:04:16 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31789 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 10:07:44 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 10:07:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4125-959940458-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 10:07:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 24396 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 10:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 10:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lilly.ping.de) (195.37.120.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 10:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4846 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jun 2000 10:05:44 -0000 Received: (ofmipd 195.37.122.75); 2 Jun 2000 10:05:22 -0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@egroups.com Organization: The Ripper In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/Amiga 1.4.4 [#000188DC] - http://www.vapor.com/ From: "Dirk Harlaar" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 2 Jun 2000 12:04:16 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Well, guess my "lurking days" are over on this list, anyway: > 1st off, Voyager images decoding But graphics/anim later. Voyager image decoding: if you can't afford a gfx card, get your fpu. Voyager has different image decoding modules, optimised for processor and fpu. And if you say graphics/anims later, it's even more worth it (providing you have the software to support it). 24 bit graphics needs loads of calculatations, and the fpu helps here a lot. > also Background music (mods players) heavy on chip mem - Miami will fail > to connect if music playing - Is music processing math-intensive? Not AFAIK, but it does eats loads of chip mem. (Talking mod playing here, if you want to start messing with your own samples at realtime the story changes). I noticed this back in the old days, when I didn't have enough fast mem. What helped me with my MIAMI problems at that time was starting MIAMI without GUI (check the NO GUI on startup in the GUI page of MIAMI, and under events select auto online. This should start MIAMI without GUI, and because it will go auto online, you don't really need the GUI. If you do need a GUI for some reason, I found switching from MUI to Gadtools help give me enough free memory (nothing against MUI, but it eats more memory than gadtools). It might not look as good, but it gives you a basic GUI without eating to much mem. Playing mods etc. will not be helped a lot by an fpu AFAIK. This would be a bad thing, since the author of any mod will have the speed set in his masterpiece, imagine someone with an fpu, and the song gets played at double speed :) Dirk -- Greetings, Dirk co-editor of the Ripper online editor of the Ripper disk The best Online Amiga web & disk mag Dreamscape Productions http://www.theripper.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/959940451/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jun 02 16:35:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10464 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 16:02:04 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 16:02:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4126-959961720-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 16:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 27135 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 16:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 16:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 16:01:58 -0000 Received: from modem-236.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.236] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12xttV-0006fF-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:01:57 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Fri, 2 Jun 0 17:00:30 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <39383C7E.1509E@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:35:50 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday June 01 2000, Linus Akesson said to Marion E. Wyatt: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Hot off the press- summer's here! >> School's out and it's sizzling hot. Whether you're planning a >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LA> This is just soooo internationalized... No doubt the southern hemisphere has learned to put up with it, just as western Europe has learned to put up with creeping americanisation. -- Neil Williams, Britannia mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/3/_/490399/_/959961712/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Fri Jun 02 17:42:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25097 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 17:37:51 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 17:37:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4127-959967469-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 17:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14135 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 17:37:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 17:37:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 17:37:44 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp27.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.220]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA05415 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 03:07:39 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <393346C8.1422C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:12:46 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... On 30-May-00, you wrote: > On Tuesday May 30 2000, Tony P. Parr said to All: > >>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. > >> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. > >> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, > > It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably inform you it's not listed "*on the right, under "Support" - Matt's* *TTF guide.*" I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on *all* screens and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there is nothing available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you have to be a fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden buttons that are not accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you have not been there for a while and their site has altered. 8-) Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* GENTLEMAN: A man who is able to describe a womans' body without using his hands -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/959967461/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Jun 02 20:00:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4906 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 19:01:04 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 19:01:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4128-959972444-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 19:01:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 20910 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 19:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 19:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 19:00:43 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-039.enterprise.net [212.161.113.39]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05522 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:00:40 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:00:37 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 68030 CPU/FPU speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, >> also Background music (mods players) heavy on chip mem - Miami will fail >> to connect if music playing - Is music processing math-intensive? What screenmode are you in? Try lowering the colours or get Miami to open on its own 4 colour screen or something. > Not AFAIK, but it does eats loads of chip mem. (Talking mod playing > here, if you want to start messing with your own samples at realtime > the story changes). Mods use virtually no CPU power at all. All the simple ones do is send the sample info to the custom chips which then play the sound. Hence they need lots of chip ram to store all the samples. Now, newer players store sounds in fast ram, and copy little bits to chip ram at a time to be played. This uses more CPU (still very little, even on an 030) Of cource, once you get into one like OctaMed Soundstudio, it does multi-channel real time mixing, which does use chip ram. Anyway, I suggest you find a mod player that uses fast ram, if that is what is going wrong. > Playing mods etc. will not be helped a lot by an fpu AFAIK. This > would be a bad thing, since the author of any mod will have the speed > set in his masterpiece, imagine someone with an fpu, and the song gets > played at double speed :) If mods were played according to CPU speed, then an 060 amiga would get through a mod in about 5 secconds! Mods are timed through the amigas internal timer system. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Jupiter is bigger than all the other planets in our solar system combined. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/959972436/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dharelle@optusnet.com.au Fri Jun 02 23:33:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9937 invoked by uid 504); 2 Jun 2000 23:33:46 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 23:33:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4129-959988822-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 23:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11313 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 23:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 23:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au) (203.2.75.106) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 23:33:40 -0000 Received: from optusnet.com.au (kawax2-012.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.180.12]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00348 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:33:37 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://members.optusnet.com.au/~dharelle/DominiqueSnr.iff"; homepage="http://members.optusnet.com.au/~dharelle/index.html"; street="P.O. Box 728,"; city="Nambour, 4560"; country="Queensland, Australia"; phone="++61 413 584197"; dob=1011965 Organization: Doms' Computer Systems (DCS) From: Dominique Harelle MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:33:36 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tony P. Parr Date: 03-Jun-00 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Hello Tony, > Hello ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... > On 30-May-00, you wrote: >> On Tuesday May 30 2000, Tony P. Parr said to All: >> >>>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. >> >>> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. >> >>> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, >> >> It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. > I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably > inform you it's not listed "*on the right, under "Support" - Matt's* > *TTF guide.*" I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on *all* screens > and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there is nothing > available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you have to be a > fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden buttons that are not > accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you have not been there for > a while and their site has altered. 8-) Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. Regards Dom... -- Dominique Harelle - http://members.optusnet.com.au/~dharelle/index.html E-Mail : dharelle@optusnet.com.au or dharelle@excite.com.au ICQ - 17907440 My AMIGA 2000 Made This Possible ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/959988814/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From majik@tig.com.au Sat Jun 03 02:51:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31142 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 02:56:57 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 02:56:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4131-960001015-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 02:56:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15169 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 02:56:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 02:56:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO new-smtp1.ihug.com.au) (203.109.250.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 02:56:53 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (p3-max27.syd.ihug.com.au [206.17.109.195]) by new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23741 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:56:50 +1000 Message-ID: <393872B9.EA51E2A@tig.com.au> Organization: Majik Ink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Steven Fernandes MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:51:37 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, i am amazed that you seem to find difficulty locating this link. It is very clearly marked, it even has a little 'update' icon next to it. It is on the right hand side ! In case that you have a blind spot in your vision that doesn't allow you to see the bright yellow update icon, the link takes you to : http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ I hope this is the end of these emails. This kind of thing i'd expect from the spoon-fed M$ masses, a little more persistence and intelligence is usually shown by Amiga users. Don't be afraid to use your brain, it won't break. > > >> It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. > > > I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably > > inform you it's not listed "*on the right, under "Support" - Matt's* > > *TTF guide.*" I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on *all* screens > > and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there is nothing > > available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you have to be a > > fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden buttons that are not > > accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you have not been there for > > a while and their site has altered. 8-) > > Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. > Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. Steve the Muppet, keep the momentum going. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960001007/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drstrange@jps.net Sat Jun 03 08:02:16 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29489 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 08:05:48 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 08:05:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4132-960019546-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 08:05:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25799 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 08:05:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 08:05:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail016.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.71) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 08:05:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6135 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 08:05:39 -0000 Received: from 209-239-212-53.lax.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([209.239.212.53]) (envelope-sender ) by mail016.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jun 2000 08:05:39 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mark Tierno From: Mark Tierno MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:02:16 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] AIO and BCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Just to inform and head off anymore emails, issue #36 of AIO went out without use of BCC. This was *Unintentional.* Between the issue running late, finally getting it finished up at midnight or so, and a VERY stressful month (my dad passed away), I forgot to BCC the whole thing as normal. Sorry about that to all it may have affected. And to the one guy out there thinking of using those addresses for SPAM, aren't Amiga users supposed to be /above/ that sort of thing? -Mark Tierno AIO Editor -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960019537/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From RebelMouse@breathemail.net Sat Jun 03 08:49:27 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4644 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 09:13:01 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 09:13:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4133-960023579-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 09:12:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6929 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 09:12:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 09:12:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.opaltelecom.net) (62.24.128.69) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 09:12:56 -0000 Received: from 177-143-ras11-2.ppp.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.143.177] helo=compaq) by smtp-2.opaltelecom.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12y9zC-0001SG-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:12:55 +0100 Message-ID: <002301bfcd3b$b8ffce40$b18f183e@compaq> To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "RebelMouse" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:49:27 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not from the message that you sent - as you see below it came from an Abelgratis address -----Original Message----- From: Joe Callaghan To: [just-amiga]EGroups Date: 03 June 2000 00:37 Subject: [just-amiga] HELP with email address >Hello All @ just-Amiga > >Can anyone tell me what my email address is from the following info ? > >(new a/c with redhotant active today but emails fail and cant get rply from >RHA) >user name >user ID >domain name (jakinternet.co.uk) > >Tried username@redhotant.com > username@userID.redhotant.com >Lines BUSY for ages today/night so access to experiment limited:( > >Most grateful if you can HELP >:-) > >CU >Cally > >RegardsJoe >-- >I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to >make it shorter. >-- Blaise Pascal > >-||||||||||||||||||| -A1200. 68030. 32Mb 500megHD MICROVITEC 14" multiscan USR Courier V34 modem Seikosha sl-95 color prt ScreenBeat 3 (Honest) Stereo towered PSU - well, its a start -|||||||||||||||||- > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and >pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at >http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/959989011/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk > Rosie Suffolk U.K. ICQ#: 71846242 Homepage & Guestbook: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/index.html See my Rogues at: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/RebelsRogues.html Find out about The National Association of Blue Badge Holders (formerly The Association of Orange Badge Holders) Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/NABlueBadgeHolders Got an Amiga Computer? Go to: http://www.egroups.com/group/BuryAmigaGroup Sportswear: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/sentinel-trading/index.html (50% RRP) Need a Hire Vehicle? Go to: http://visitweb.com/DHIRE for info. Visit Obedience UK: http://www.ObedienceUK.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960023570/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sat Jun 03 09:49:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27112 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 12:24:36 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:24:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4134-960035074-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 12:24:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 796 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 12:24:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 12:24:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16908 invoked by uid 101); 3 Jun 2000 12:01:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redhotant.com) (RHA@212.41.39.57) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:01:53 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Magnum Opus http://www.magnumopus.co.uk X-eGroups-From: Richard Lane From: Richard Lane MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 10:49:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIO and BCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mark On 03-Jun-00, Mark Tierno wrote: Just downloaded and read issue ...... whatever the lastest issue number is 36 iirc. :) As any mention of DOpus always catches my eye. Nice review, of course the trouble with trying to review a product with so much in it is where do you stop. > And to the one guy out there thinking of using those addresses for SPAM, > aren't Amiga users supposed to be /above/ that sort of thing? If someone's using address of an eGroups list for spam, remove and ban them, inform eGroups, inform their ISP, and send them an email. I had a case of this a short while ago on my list where someone was taking the address's of people posting for spam. It was only when a few people mentioned on another list about spam that we figured out where it was coming from by working out that a common factor was that the only people getting this were subscribed to my list. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - amiga@redhotant.com richard@magnumopus.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Web site - http://www.magnumopus.co.uk -- We all live in the Yellow Runabout... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never lose a file again. Protect yourself from accidental deletes, overwrites, and viruses with @Backup. Try @Backup it's easy, it's safe, and it's FREE! Click here to receive 300 MyPoints just for trying @Backup. http://click.egroups.com/1/4936/3/_/490399/_/960035064/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Sat Jun 03 13:49:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30406 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 12:51:35 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:51:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4135-960036692-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 12:51:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18538 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 12:51:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 12:51:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16769 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 12:51:11 -0000 Received: from ppp-2-27.cvx4.telinco.net (HELO cally.abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.149.27) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 12:51:11 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002301bfcd3b$b8ffce40$b18f183e@compaq> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:49:31 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello RebelMouse On 03-Jun-00 RebelMouse Whispered in my Ear >R Not from the message that you sent - as you see below it came from an >R Abelgratis address >R >R -----Original Message----- >R From: Joe Callaghan >R To: [just-amiga]EGroups >R Date: 03 June 2000 00:37 >R Subject: [just-amiga] HELP with email address >R >R >R> Hello All @ just-Amiga >R> >R> Can anyone tell me what my email address is from the following info ? >R> >R> (new a/c with redhotant active today but emails fail and cant get rply >R> from RHA) R Sorry, I've confused you :-( thats not surorising - its my default mode-! abelgratis is my currnt isp I've signed up with RHAnt and from mails received today it looks like I should set up a mail a/c and haven't done so yet (with abelgratis it was done simultaneously with signup) As rha didn't mention the email setup I assumed it was automatic and I should be able to work out my email address (the NEW one at RHAnt) from the info I had been given. ie by arranging user name/ userID/ Domain/ etc into some standard format. Seems I'll have to get the adress from redhotant No criticism of abelgratis - my deal with RHA buys me allday freefone access Thanks for your reply, they all help in the long run :-)) CU Later Cally -- You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau -||||||||||||||||||| -A1200. 68030. 32Mb 500megHD MICROVITEC 14" multiscan USR Courier V34 modem Seikosha sl-95 color prt ScreenBeat 3 (Honest) Stereo towered PSU - well, its a start -|||||||||||||||||- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960036683/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sat Jun 03 17:57:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1221 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 17:57:47 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 17:57:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4136-960055063-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 17:57:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 1945 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 17:57:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 17:57:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 17:57:40 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp42.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.235]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA01410 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 03:27:42 +0930 To: Steven Fernandes Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 03:27:46 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Steven... On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:51:37, you wrote sarcastically... > I am amazed that you seem to find difficulty locating this link. It > is very clearly marked, it even has a little 'update' icon next to > it. It is on the right hand side ! In case that you have a blind > spot in your vision that doesn't allow you to see the bright yellow > update icon, the link takes you to : > > http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ > > i hope this is the end of these emails. This kind of thing i'd > expect from the spoon-fed M$ masses, a little more persistence and > intelligence is usually shown by Amiga users. Don't be afraid to > use your brain, it won't break. The email above was received at 1:30am on Sun, 4th June 2000. I never received the mail from Dominique Harelle, (that you quoted from and had the correct address in his reply) until after 2:00am on Sunday, 4th June 2000. I suggest that instead of alluding to me as a blind, gormless twit that you actually take the time to read the email you quote from. You would have then had no need to waste your valued time as a maillist censor by replying and pointing out my obvious stupidness in going to the wrong site as quoted in the first line below from your quoted mail. This is the one I was given by more than one responder, and is wrong. It kept sending me to some place called "Got One" which was obviously incorrect. >>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. > >> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. >> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, > > It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. > >> I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably >> inform you it's not listed "on the right, under "Support" - Matt's >> TTF guide." I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on all >> screens and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there >> is nothing available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you >> have to be a fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden >> buttons that are not accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you >> have not been there for a while and their site has altered. 8-) > > Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note the correct URL above added by Dominique Harelle which I never received until after your polite mail. Dare I suggest that there is a vast difference between www.v3.com and http://v3.vapor.com/ ? After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required document. > Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. Glad I've made you happy. > Steve the Muppet, You certainly don't have the patience of one. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying -- Woody Allen *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/960055053/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sat Jun 03 18:01:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1697 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 18:01:46 -0000 Received: from ml.egroups.com (208.50.144.77) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 18:01:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4137-960055301-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 19:01:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 8548 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 18:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 18:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 18:01:38 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp42.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.235]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA01482 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 03:31:40 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 03:31:45 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dominique... On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: >>>>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. >>> >>>> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. >>> >>>> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, >>> >>> It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. > >> I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably >> inform you it's not listed "*on the right, under "Support" - Matt's* >> *TTF guide.*" I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on *all* screens >> and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there is nothing >> available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you have to be a >> fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden buttons that are not >> accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you have not been there for >> a while and their site has altered. 8-) > > Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. Thanks, Dominique. The URL above was the correct one, not the one in the first line of the quoted mail. I've now d/l'd it. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A cashless world would make everything available, but our greed would thereby exhaust everything -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960055291/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Jun 03 18:46:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23302 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:09 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4138-960066906-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 21:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28747 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23289 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (213.108.11.100) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:03 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:46:29 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Linus, On 01-Jun-00, you wrote: > This is just soooo internationalized... I agree with you, but hey what can we do. The USA is the major nation. The internationali"z"ed is shown by your use of American-English and not English :) Or did I just make a big fool of myself :?) Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960066896/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Jun 03 18:50:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23324 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:16 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4139-960066912-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 21:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 9312 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 23299 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 21:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (213.108.11.100) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:15:08 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39383C7E.1509E@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:50:39 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil, On 02-Jun-00, you wrote: > No doubt the southern hemisphere has learned to put up with it, just as > western Europe has learned to put up with creeping americanisation. Not really all western europe. Place like Iceland are exact copies of America, as with countries surrounding the USA. I think the problem is many countries aspire to be like the United States, they've given alot, but also have many problems I wish to avoid having in our country ;) Errr... this was an Amiga mailing list... can anyone recall my last Amiga related posting? 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Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960066902/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From RebelMouse@breathemail.net Sat Jun 03 21:24:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30999 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 22:24:03 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 22:24:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4140-960071040-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2000 22:24:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1249 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 22:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 22:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.opaltelecom.net) (62.24.128.5) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 22:23:59 -0000 Received: from [62.24.141.230] (helo=compaq) by smtp-1.opaltelecom.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yMKj-0003bA-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 23:23:58 +0100 Message-ID: <00c901bfcdaa$3b0ceb20$138d183e@compaq> To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "RebelMouse" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:24:42 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Hope you get it sorted OK - if you have problems with RHA one of my pals on the ObUK list is with them so may be able to offer help I like the greeting > >On 03-Jun-00 RebelMouse Whispered in my Ear > much better than my usual so-and-so wrote.... I may "borrow" your phrase; and the quote from your sig. I like 'em! :-)) From: Joe Callaghan > Hello RebelMouse >Cally > >-- >You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. >-- Thoreau Rosie Suffolk U.K. ICQ#: 71846242 Homepage & Guestbook: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/index.html See my Rogues at: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/RebelsRogues.html Find out about The National Association of Blue Badge Holders (formerly The Association of Orange Badge Holders) Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/NABlueBadgeHolders Got an Amiga Computer? Go to: http://www.egroups.com/group/BuryAmigaGroup Sportswear: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/sentinel-trading/index.html (50% RRP) Need a Hire Vehicle? Go to: http://visitweb.com/DHIRE for info. Visit Obedience UK: http://www.ObedienceUK.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/960071030/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Jun 04 00:56:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2935 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:43 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4145-960122441-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 12:40:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16071 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2924 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (213.108.13.6) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:38 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00c901bfcdaa$3b0ceb20$138d183e@compaq> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 00:56:56 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You :),=20 On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: > Rosie Suffolk U.K. ICQ#: 71846242 Having the name Rosie, does this make you female? Or did I make a fool of myself again? as in the case of Sandy who was also a bloke... damn me! can't we have single sex names these days, the females even stole mine, grrr! > Homepage & Guestbook: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/index.html > See my Rogues at: http://www.geocities.com/rebelmouse_uk/RebelsRogues.html >=20 > Find out about The National Association of Blue Badge Holders > (formerly The Association of Orange Badge Holders) > Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/NABlueBadgeHolders > Got an Amiga Computer? Go to: http://www.egroups.com/group/BuryAmigaGroup > Sportswear: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/sentinel-trading/index.html > (50% RRP) > Need a Hire Vehicle? Go to: http://visitweb.com/DHIRE for info. > Visit Obedience UK: http://www.ObedienceUK.org I didn't know sig lines where an excuse to advertise a million things other than amiga, any chance of not having all this bulk ;)? Regards --=20 Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk (SELLING ONE USED SKODA, MISSING WHEELS, WINDOWS, HAS BOOM BOX IN BACK, BOXED AS NEW, LOTS OF RUST, NOTHING A BIT OF SCRUBBING CAN'T REMOVE.... WHO WANTS IT, RED IN COLOUR, SMELLS NICE, AND A WOMAN MAGNET ANYDAY... ONLY =A3250 ONO.) - Did i just turn into the most sarcastic git ever :)? whoops sorry, but its slightly annoying you see? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960122429/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Jun 04 01:01:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2942 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:46 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4146-960122444-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 12:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6213 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2927 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 12:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (213.108.13.6) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:40:40 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 01:01:24 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Linus, On 04-Jun-00, you wrote: > don't have an international "default country" that people can choose to come > from so that everyone else, automatically, will have the same culture, time > zone and Worcestershire Sauce habits. Of course, England should be the default country, who outside England agrees :)? you all want to be english, what a shock. i can't blame you :) As Worcestershire sauce comes from Worcestershire, England. It makes sence really, i'm a L&P sauce man myself, oh well. Who likes marmite? ug! 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960122433/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From lairfight@softhome.net Sun Jun 04 01:10:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3535 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jun 2000 23:09:55 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 23:09:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4141-960073793-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 00:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28152 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 23:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jun 2000 23:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailg.telia.com) (194.22.194.26) by mta3 with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 23:09:51 -0000 Received: from survivor.localdomain (t4o79p116.telia.com [62.20.201.236]) by mailg.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05454 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:09:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (lft@localhost) by survivor.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01858 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:10:13 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: survivor.localdomain: lft owned process doing -bs X-Sender: lft@localhost To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: Linus Akesson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:10:09 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In accordance with the prophecy, Chris Seward uttered: > Linus, > > On 01-Jun-00, you wrote: > > > This is just soooo internationalized... > > I agree with you, but hey what can we do. The USA is > the major nation. > > The internationali"z"ed is shown by your use of > American-English and not English :) Oops. =) Or whatever, I can post messages in American English if I want to, since American English is the language of computers (much like French is the language of (snail) mail and Italian is the language of music). (Be assured, however, that my pronounciation is English. =)) And though we have a standardized (sic) language of computers that people can choose to use in order for other netizens to understand what they write, we don't have an international "default country" that people can choose to come from so that everyone else, automatically, will have the same culture, time zone and Worcestershire Sauce habits. Linus -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= One of the jurors had a pencil that squeaked. This of course, Alice could not stand, and she went round the court and got behind him, and very soon found an opportunity of taking it away. She did it so quickly that the poor little juror (it was Bill, the Lizard) could not make out at all what had become of it; so, after hunting all about for it, he was obliged to write with one finger for the rest of the day; and this was of very little use, as it left no mark on the slate. -- Lewis Carroll, "Alice's Adventures In Wonderland" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960073782/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sun Jun 04 03:19:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21895 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 02:18:09 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 02:18:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4142-960085085-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 02:18:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 02:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 02:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 02:18:04 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p05.lafn.org [192.168.16.5] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA16899 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:19:05 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: > Linus, > > On 01-Jun-00, you wrote: > >> This is just soooo internationalized... > > I agree with you, but hey what can we do. The USA is > the major nation. > > The internationali"z"ed is shown by your use of > American-English and not English :) > > Or did I just make a big fool of myself :?) > > American-English> > > Regards Just because Noah Weblter simplified everything he could, like color instear of colour. But not to make any off-colour remarks. Spelling in either version is a horor (horour?). :-) Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/3/_/490399/_/960085074/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sun Jun 04 03:27:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22655 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 02:26:47 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 02:26:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4143-960085605-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 02:26:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25620 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 02:26:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 02:26:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 02:26:44 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p05.lafn.org [192.168.16.5] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA17449 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:27:44 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tony On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: > Greetings Steven... > > On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:51:37, you wrote sarcastically... > >> I am amazed that you seem to find difficulty locating this link. It >> is very clearly marked, it even has a little 'update' icon next to >> it. It is on the right hand side ! In case that you have a blind >> spot in your vision that doesn't allow you to see the bright yellow >> update icon, the link takes you to : >> >> http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ >> >> i hope this is the end of these emails. This kind of thing i'd >> expect from the spoon-fed M$ masses, a little more persistence and >> intelligence is usually shown by Amiga users. Don't be afraid to >> use your brain, it won't break. > > The email above was received at 1:30am on Sun, 4th June 2000. I never > received the mail from Dominique Harelle, (that you quoted from and > had the correct address in his reply) until after 2:00am on Sunday, > 4th June 2000. > > I suggest that instead of alluding to me as a blind, gormless twit > that you actually take the time to read the email you quote from. You > would have then had no need to waste your valued time as a maillist > censor by replying and pointing out my obvious stupidness in going to > the wrong site as quoted in the first line below from your quoted > mail. This is the one I was given by more than one responder, and is > wrong. It kept sending me to some place called "Got One" which was > obviously incorrect. > >>>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. >> >>> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. >>> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, >> >> It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. >> >>> I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably >>> inform you it's not listed "on the right, under "Support" - Matt's >>> TTF guide." I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on all >>> screens and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there >>> is nothing available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you >>> have to be a fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden >>> buttons that are not accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you >>> have not been there for a while and their site has altered. 8-) >> >> Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Note the correct URL above added by Dominique Harelle which I never > received until after your polite mail. > > Dare I suggest that there is a vast difference between www.v3.com and > http://v3.vapor.com/ ? > > After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required document. > >> Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. > > Glad I've made you happy. > >> Steve the Muppet, > > You certainly don't have the patience of one. > > Cop 'U Later... Tiny > People who write emails like his are acting like idiots. There is never a need to do that especially over something so trivial. Save youself some grief Tiny and ignore people like him when they get like that. There is a v3 link on the vapor site, if you can find it. I use it a lot, but it is still a challange to do so. I don't know why I bother with Voyager, as 3.2 is slower and more buggy than 3.0.52, which I still use in preferance, but behind IBrowse and Aweb. I do have Microdot running fine, and Ollie's last few upgrades at least haven't screwed it up, so one out of two is ok I guess. Hang in there, and forget this guy's lack of courtesy and sensativity. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960085594/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mattval@lcii.net Sun Jun 04 08:33:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24644 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 08:36:07 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 08:36:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4144-960107765-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 08:36:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18538 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 08:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 08:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.lakecountry.net) (208.161.201.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 08:36:04 -0000 Received: from lcii.net (mattval@mineola-ppp230.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.230]) by ch.lakecountry.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA16522 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 03:44:34 -0500 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Matthew Hart MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 03:33:11 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] J... A.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> The internationali"z"ed is shown by your use of >> American-English and not English :) Can't we save things like this for are racial hate meetings. Regards an American -- Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero -- Matthew Hart -Dj & Composer- Nocturnal Tribal Shamans Network Conspiring to write dance music and give it away freely! http://ntsn.bounce.to or http://bounce.to/ntsn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Buy Long Distance with your GROUP and SAVE!!! http://click.egroups.com/1/4123/3/_/490399/_/960107754/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ianurie@redhotants.com Sun Jun 04 13:53:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3457 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 12:56:46 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:56:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4147-960123403-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 13:56:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24771 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 12:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 12:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:56:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18590 invoked by uid 101); 4 Jun 2000 12:34:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 195.217.161.153) (rhaa0105516@212.41.53.199) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 12:34:00 -0000 To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <328.190T2268T8335563ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Ian Urie" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 4 Jun 2000 13:53:45 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04-Jun-00 00:56:56, Chris Seward said about Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address: >You :), >On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: >damn me! can't we have single sex names these days Like Dick,I presume ??? -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 TV is a medium; anything well done is rare. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/3/_/490399/_/960123392/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From RebelMouse@breathemail.net Sun Jun 04 14:01:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6021 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 14:11:59 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:11:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4148-960127916-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 14:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 32746 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 14:11:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 14:11:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.opaltelecom.net) (62.24.128.69) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:11:55 -0000 Received: from 53-136-ras11-1.ppp.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.136.53] helo=compaq) by smtp-2.opaltelecom.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yb85-0005fJ-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:11:53 +0100 Message-ID: <003901bfce2e$a7776360$3588183e@compaq> To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "RebelMouse" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:01:33 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Seward >Having the name Rosie, does this make you female? Yes - just had a look - definatly female! >any chance of not having all this bulk ;)? > Look - I've cut it out - just for you! :-)) Rosie Suffolk U.K. ICQ#: 71846242 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960127905/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jun 04 14:50:18 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7205 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 14:44:31 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4149-960129869-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 14:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 20583 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 14:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.176) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:28 -0000 Received: from modem-94.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.78.94] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12ybda-0002YH-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:44:26 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sun, 4 Jun 0 15:42:52 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <393ACB1F.156C6@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 14:50:18 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday June 04 2000, Linus Akesson said to Chris Seward: LA> And though we have a standardized (sic) language of computers that LA> people can choose to use in order for other netizens to understand what LA> they write, we don't have an international "default country" that LA> people can choose to come from so that everyone else, automatically, LA> will have the same culture, time zone and Worcestershire Sauce habits. 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A.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday June 04 2000, Matthew Hart said to Linus Akesson: >>> The internationali"z"ed is shown by your use of >>> American-English and not English :) MH> Can't we save things like this for are racial hate meetings. MH> Regards an American Take as good as you give. -- Neil Williams, Britannia mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups members: $60 in FREE calls! Join beMANY! And pay less each month for long distance. http://click.egroups.com/1/4122/3/_/490399/_/960129861/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sun Jun 04 15:05:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8074 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 15:05:53 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:05:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4152-960131151-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 15:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20328 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 15:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 15:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:05:50 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000604150550.BBXC22287.kuku.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:05:50 -0700 Message-ID: <14299282.960131150526.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.7.111.176 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HELP with email address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 00:56:56 +0000, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Chris Seward > *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 > *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 > *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga > Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk > (SELLING ONE USED SKODA, MISSING WHEELS, WINDOWS, HAS > BOOM BOX IN BACK, BOXED AS NEW, LOTS OF RUST, NOTHING A > BIT OF SCRUBBING CAN'T REMOVE.... WHO WANTS IT, RED IN > COLOUR, SMELLS NICE, AND A WOMAN MAGNET ANYDAY... ONLY > =A3250 ONO.) - Did i just turn into the most sarcastic > git ever :)? whoops sorry, but its slightly annoying you > see? Bargain! is it MOTed? im at uni this October and need a "nice little runner= " :-) I do agree with your point tho, sigs are for contact info, not plugging stuff. -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960131139/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jun 04 15:08:26 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7221 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 14:44:42 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4151-960129879-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 14:44:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29743 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 14:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 14:44:39 -0000 Received: from modem-94.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.78.94] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12ybdk-0000Uy-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:44:38 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sun, 4 Jun 0 15:43:05 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <393ACB20.156C8@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:08:26 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday June 04 2000, Chris Seward said to Linus Akesson: CS> Of course, England should be the default country, who outside England CS> agrees :)? you all want to be english, what a shock. i can't blame you CS> :) I'd like to speak French and live in Australia, but I speak English and live in Britain. And pay 101.4% tax. CS> Who likes marmite? ug! Boo! -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960129868/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Jun 04 15:57:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10552 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 15:57:46 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:57:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4153-960134263-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 15:57:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 17911 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 15:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 15:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:57:43 -0000 Received: from p53.nas4.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.201.181] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12ycmq-000409-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:58:04 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Vaporeon X-Zero-Hour: in 210 days, 7 hours, 2 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:57:32 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Seward wrote: > Who likes marmite? ug! *raises hand* Me! Me! I love the stuff. (Not the pretend Marmite that Twiglets are covered in; the real stuff that I smother liberally all over my breakfast toast). -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960134252/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sun Jun 04 16:15:47 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11531 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 16:15:56 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 16:15:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4154-960135352-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 16:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17729 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 16:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 16:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 16:15:47 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000604161547.CEES4821.fortune.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:15:47 -0700 Message-ID: <26337303.960135347301.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.7.10.170 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:57:32 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Chris Seward wrote: > > Who likes marmite? ug! > > *raises hand* Me! Me! I love the stuff. (Not the pretend Marmite > that Twiglets are covered in; the real stuff that I smother liberally > all over my breakfast toast). Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean where it was new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out of his window and cut some twigs off some trees.... Thought it needed mentioning :-) Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960135341/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sun Jun 04 19:29:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20505 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 19:30:40 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 19:30:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4155-960147038-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 19:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10546 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 19:30:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 19:30:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 19:30:36 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp23.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.216]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA24915 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:00:41 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 04:59:56 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike... On 04-Jun-00, you wrote: >> After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required document. >> >>> Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. >> >> Glad I've made you happy. >> >>> Steve the Muppet, >> >> You certainly don't have the patience of one. > People who write emails like his are acting like idiots. There is never > a need to do that especially over something so trivial. Save youself > some grief Tiny and ignore people like him when they get like that. > There is a v3 link on the vapor site, if you can find it. I use it a > lot, but it is still a challange to do so. I don't know why I bother > with Voyager, as 3.2 is slower and more buggy than 3.0.52, which I > still use in preferance, but behind IBrowse and Aweb. I do have > Microdot running fine, and Ollie's last few upgrades at least haven't > screwed it up, so one out of two is ok I guess. Hang in there, and > forget this guy's lack of courtesy and sensativity. As I said, Mike, I finally got it after I was given the correct URL. After all the trouble, it turned out I already had it and it didn't go by the name given, it was part of the TTF package. Just out of curiousity, where on the www.v3.vapour site is that link? I went there again last night (it's actually a site named "Got One") just to make sure I wasn't insane, blind and ignorant, and still couldn't find any such link. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform -- Mark Twain *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960147026/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jun 04 19:39:00 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20908 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 09:55:09 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 09:55:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4163-960198905-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 10:55:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30410 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 09:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 09:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by mta3 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 09:55:04 -0000 Received: from modem-9.euthyrox.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.93.137] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12ytb4-0004we-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 10:55:03 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.euthyrox.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 5 Jun 0 10:53:28 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <393B39C1.15770@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:39:00 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday June 04 2000, Stephen Williams said to Chris Seward: >> Who likes marmite? ug! SW> *raises hand* Me! Me! I love the stuff. (Not the pretend Marmite SW> that Twiglets are covered in; the real stuff that I smother liberally SW> all over my breakfast toast). You sick, sick man. For putting that image in my head, I sentence you to 15 hours hard Windowing, and configuring Linux for IP-NAT. -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960198892/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Jun 04 21:46:34 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27805 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 21:46:56 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 21:46:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4156-960155213-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 21:46:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5159 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 21:46:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 21:46:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 21:46:50 -0000 Received: from p125.nas4.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.201.253] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12yiEE-0006CJ-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:46:42 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <26337303.960135347301.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Machoke X-Zero-Hour: in 210 days, 1 hours, 13 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:46:34 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Butler wrote: > Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean where > it was new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out of his > window and cut some twigs off some trees.... Thought it needed > mentioning :-) Didn't he cover them in Marmite too? They'd have tasted nicer than proper Twiglets :-) Twiglets bad. Doritos good. -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960155200/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sun Jun 04 22:53:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31000 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 22:54:13 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:54:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4158-960159243-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 22:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19094 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 22:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 22:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bucky.excite.com) (198.3.99.218) by mta1 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:53:56 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000604225311.GTNB15397.bucky.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:53:11 -0700 Message-ID: <16904438.960159191163.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.7.84.3 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 04:59:56 +0930, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hello Mike... > > On 04-Jun-00, you wrote: > > >> After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required document. > >> > >>> Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. > >> > >> Glad I've made you happy. > >> > >>> Steve the Muppet, > >> > >> You certainly don't have the patience of one. > > > People who write emails like his are acting like idiots. There is never > > a need to do that especially over something so trivial. Save youself > > some grief Tiny and ignore people like him when they get like that. > > There is a v3 link on the vapor site, if you can find it. I use it a > > lot, but it is still a challange to do so. I don't know why I bother > > with Voyager, as 3.2 is slower and more buggy than 3.0.52, which I > > still use in preferance, but behind IBrowse and Aweb. I do have > > Microdot running fine, and Ollie's last few upgrades at least haven't > > screwed it up, so one out of two is ok I guess. Hang in there, and > > forget this guy's lack of courtesy and sensativity. > > As I said, Mike, I finally got it after I was given the correct URL. > After all the trouble, it turned out I already had it and it didn't > go by the name given, it was part of the TTF package. > > Just out of curiousity, where on the www.v3.vapour site is that link? > I went there again last night (it's actually a site named "Got One") > just to make sure I wasn't insane, blind and ignorant, and still > couldn't find any such link. FFS! cant we all stop behaving like idiots please and stop arguing? This has always been a nice, friendly and extremly helpful list and I dont particularly want it clogged up by a few imbeciels having a petty shout at one another. Sort it out! Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960159231/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sun Jun 04 22:56:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31091 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 22:56:28 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:56:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4159-960159386-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 22:56:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31617 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 22:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 22:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:56:26 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000604225623.YQI1914.gigi.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:56:23 -0700 Message-ID: <20868379.960159383608.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.7.84.3 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:46:34 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Mark Butler wrote: > > Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean where > > it was new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out of his > > window and cut some twigs off some trees.... Thought it needed > > mentioning :-) > > Didn't he cover them in Marmite too? They'd have tasted nicer than > proper Twiglets :-) Yeah he did actually, and Ill bet they tasted nicer. Although Twiglets are nice anyway with nothing on. > Twiglets bad. Doritos good. Twiglets are cool! With you all the way on the doritos though :-) Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960159374/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From lairfight@softhome.net Mon Jun 05 00:05:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29012 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jun 2000 22:11:22 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:11:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4157-960156307-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2000 22:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15167 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 22:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Jun 2000 22:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maild.telia.com) (194.22.190.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 22:05:06 -0000 Received: from survivor.localdomain (t3o79p47.telia.com [62.20.201.47]) by maild.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14749 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 00:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (lft@localhost) by survivor.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA00653 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 00:05:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: survivor.localdomain: lft owned process doing -bs X-Sender: lft@localhost To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <26337303.960135347301.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> Message-ID: From: Linus Akesson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 00:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In accordance with the prophecy, Mark Butler uttered: > Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean where it was > new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out of his window and cut > some twigs off some trees.... Thought it needed mentioning :-) They broadcast it every year (nearly) here in Sweden... a week after they give the christmas episode. So one kind of knows them by heart by now... =) LOOTAR: Um... Amigas have been used for a lot of TV productions... Linus -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Now - on to lyrics, this is soooo subjective, most people can spot completely pants lyrics (eg. "I don't wanna live without your love, I was born to make you happy"), but when the lyrics have feeling, power and emotion (eg. "always and forever you and me, that's the way our life should be"), it's more down to personal taste. -- David Ware -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960156295/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Mon Jun 05 03:52:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4303 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 02:51:52 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 02:51:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4160-960173507-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 02:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27665 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 02:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 02:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 02:51:45 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-lake1-p19.lafn.org [192.168.11.19] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA01984 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:52:45 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tony On 04-Jun-00, you wrote: > Hello Mike... > > On 04-Jun-00, you wrote: > >>> After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required >>> document. >>> >>>> Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. >>> >>> Glad I've made you happy. >>> >>>> Steve the Muppet, >>> >>> You certainly don't have the patience of one. > >> People who write emails like his are acting like idiots. There is >> never a need to do that especially over something so trivial. Save >> youself some grief Tiny and ignore people like him when they get like >> that. There is a v3 link on the vapor site, if you can find it. I use >> it a lot, but it is still a challange to do so. I don't know why I >> bother with Voyager, as 3.2 is slower and more buggy than 3.0.52, >> which I still use in preferance, but behind IBrowse and Aweb. I do >> have Microdot running fine, and Ollie's last few upgrades at least >> haven't screwed it up, so one out of two is ok I guess. Hang in >> there, and forget this guy's lack of courtesy and sensativity. > > As I said, Mike, I finally got it after I was given the correct URL. > After all the trouble, it turned out I already had it and it didn't > go by the name given, it was part of the TTF package. > > Just out of curiousity, where on the www.v3.vapour site is that link? > I went there again last night (it's actually a site named "Got One") > just to make sure I wasn't insane, blind and ignorant, and still > couldn't find any such link. > > Regards... Tony > Taint labled as such. It is the Voyager or the Download link, but as I said that site is a bugger to navigate, so I'm not absolutely sure. It just says v3 portal when you get there. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960173494/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From majik@tig.com.au Mon Jun 05 06:04:14 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8575 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 06:09:58 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 06:09:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4161-960185394-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 06:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3511 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 06:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 06:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO new-smtp1.ihug.com.au) (203.109.250.27) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 06:09:52 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (p44-max2.syd.ihug.com.au [206.17.104.108]) by new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03166 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:09:48 +1000 Message-ID: <393B42DE.1810C27D@tig.com.au> Organization: Majik Ink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Steven Fernandes MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 16:04:14 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Font Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Leavitt wrote: > Hello Tony > > On 03-Jun-00, you wrote: > > > Greetings Steven... > > > > On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:51:37, you wrote sarcastically... > > > >> I am amazed that you seem to find difficulty locating this link. It > >> is very clearly marked, it even has a little 'update' icon next to > >> it. It is on the right hand side ! In case that you have a blind > >> spot in your vision that doesn't allow you to see the bright yellow > >> update icon, the link takes you to : > >> > >> http://www.kittycat.co.uk/computing/webfonts/ > >> > >> i hope this is the end of these emails. This kind of thing i'd > >> expect from the spoon-fed M$ masses, a little more persistence and > >> intelligence is usually shown by Amiga users. Don't be afraid to > >> use your brain, it won't break. > > > > The email above was received at 1:30am on Sun, 4th June 2000. I never > > received the mail from Dominique Harelle, (that you quoted from and > > had the correct address in his reply) until after 2:00am on Sunday, > > 4th June 2000. > > > > I suggest that instead of alluding to me as a blind, gormless twit > > that you actually take the time to read the email you quote from. You > > would have then had no need to waste your valued time as a maillist > > censor by replying and pointing out my obvious stupidness in going to > > the wrong site as quoted in the first line below from your quoted > > mail. This is the one I was given by more than one responder, and is > > wrong. It kept sending me to some place called "Got One" which was > > obviously incorrect. > > > >>>> The www.v3.com site (VaporWare Site) has a new link to fonts. > >> > >>> Someone answered that a file named TTF.guide could be found here. > >>> OK... I'll bite, how does one find the TTF.guide, > >> > >> It's listed on the right, under "Support" - Matt's TTF guide. > >> > >>> I can only repeat, I've now been there 3 times and can reliably > >>> inform you it's not listed "on the right, under "Support" - Matt's > >>> TTF guide." I've clicked on every button, graphic etc. on all > >>> screens and nothing named TTF.guide exists. For that matter, there > >>> is nothing available for d/load anywhere I can find. Maybe you > >>> have to be a fully registered user of Voyager to access hidden > >>> buttons that are not accessable to the casual surfer, or maybe you > >>> have not been there for a while and their site has altered. 8-) > >> > >> Is at http://v3.vapor.com/ on the right. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Note the correct URL above added by Dominique Harelle which I never > > received until after your polite mail. > > > > Dare I suggest that there is a vast difference between www.v3.com and > > http://v3.vapor.com/ ? > > > > After going to the correct site I've now d/l'd the required document. > > > >> Having said that, i'm in a better mood now. > > > > Glad I've made you happy. > > > >> Steve the Muppet, > > > > You certainly don't have the patience of one. > > > > Cop 'U Later... Tiny > > > > People who write emails like his are acting like idiots. There is never > a need to do that especially over something so trivial. Save youself > some grief Tiny and ignore people like him when they get like that. > There is a v3 link on the vapor site, if you can find it. I use it a > lot, but it is still a challange to do so. I don't know why I bother > with Voyager, as 3.2 is slower and more buggy than 3.0.52, which I > still use in preferance, but behind IBrowse and Aweb. I do have > Microdot running fine, and Ollie's last few upgrades at least haven't > screwed it up, so one out of two is ok I guess. Hang in there, and > forget this guy's lack of courtesy and sensativity. OK Tony, it seems that i owe you an apology, no sweat i'm officially sorry if i caused you any grief. I guess i expect too much of people, that's my fault not yours. Just do like mike said and ignore people like me, it works for most people... As far as muppets having patience, that's an interesting thought. Consider that if i were to liken my character to one of the muppets it would be the hecklers in the balcony. Sorry again Tony, i just couldn't believe that it took so many emails to sort that problem out and i guess i was just having a bad day when i wrote that. If you want some nice TTF fonts, or further help with them, just call on this IOU. mmmmMMMmmm Humble Pie mmMMmmmmmMMmm The Muppet - Pigs in Space ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960185381/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drstrange@jps.net Mon Jun 05 07:31:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11794 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 07:35:13 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 07:35:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4162-960190508-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 07:35:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2341 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 07:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 07:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail005.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 07:35:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 28575 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 07:35:05 -0000 Received: from 209-239-212-179.lax.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([209.239.212.179]) (envelope-sender ) by mail005.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jun 2000 07:35:05 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20868379.960159383608.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mark Tierno From: Mark Tierno MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 00:31:37 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy Mark On 04-Jun-00, Mark Butler wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:46:34 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > >> Mark Butler wrote: >> > Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean where >> > it was new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out of his >> > window and cut some twigs off some trees.... Thought it needed >> > mentioning :-) Minor American question... What the heck's a Twiglet? -Later -- Any sufficiently advanced Amiga can look like magic Sorry: Any Amiga can look like magic ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960190495/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Mon Jun 05 20:17:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31984 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 20:18:02 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 20:18:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4164-960236280-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 20:18:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13078 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 20:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 20:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 20:17:33 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.142] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12z3JT-0002pp-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:17:31 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Vaporeon X-Zero-Hour: in 209 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:17:20 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Tierno wrote: > Minor American question... What the heck's a Twiglet? A corn snack; the pieces look a bit like pieces of twig. *tries desperately to bring this thread back on topic* Uhm... uh... Half-Life can be played on neither Twiglets nor Amigas. -Stephen :-) -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960236266/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Jun 05 22:18:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4559 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jun 2000 21:19:08 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 21:19:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4165-960239946-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2000 21:19:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2015 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 21:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jun 2000 21:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 21:18:43 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-052.enterprise.net [212.161.113.52]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA26277 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:18:39 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:18:36 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, Ok, a tad OT, but anyway, ;) I've heard a quite good song on the radio, but I have no idea what it was called, so therefore cannot find a copy Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things on Amster and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I think it goes something like this: ..Something something... I came alive, when I heard my favourite song, Hello world... Here I am... Tune me in... To the frequency of life... etc. Ta in advance :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Iceland consumes more Coca-cola per capita than any other nation. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960239932/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jun 05 23:06:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4805 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 10:15:33 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 10:15:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4167-960286530-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 10:15:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25006 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 10:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 10:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.177) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 10:15:29 -0000 Received: from modem-140.antimony.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.140] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12zGON-0002Qk-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:15:28 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.antimony.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 6 Jun 0 11:13:50 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <393CC4D8.15BF9@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 23:06:10 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday June 05 2000, Mark Tierno said to Mark Butler: MT> Minor American question... What the heck's a Twiglet? Go outside and find a tree. Pull off a small twig, and dip in mud. Leave to set. Okay, they're not actually all that bad but that's what they /look/ like. I believe you have something similar over there - pretzel? -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4057/3/_/490399/_/960286515/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Tue Jun 06 01:10:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15399 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 00:28:07 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 00:28:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4166-960251284-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 00:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12312 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 00:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 00:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 00:28:03 -0000 Received: from icon-5.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-5.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.5]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA18057 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:28:22 -0500 (CDT) To: "Mark Butler" In-Reply-To: <20868379.960159383608.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> Message-ID: <1285.191T1157T11502798wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 5 Jun 2000 19:10:23 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04-Jun-00 16:56:23 thehustler_amiga@excite.com Mark Butler wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:46:34 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: >> Mark Butler wrote: >> > Speaking of Twiglets, did anyone see that episode of Mr. Bean >> > where it was new years eve and he ran out of Twiglets? he lent out >> > of his window and cut some twigs off some trees.... Thought it >> > needed mentioning :-) >> >> Didn't he cover them in Marmite too? They'd have tasted nicer than >> proper Twiglets :-) >Yeah he did actually, and Ill bet they tasted nicer. Although Twiglets >are nice anyway with nothing on. >> Twiglets bad. Doritos good. >Twiglets are cool! With you all the way on the doritos though :-) Please excuse the interruption, but.... What the neck are twiglets???? :) -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 5-Jun-0 19:09:27 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Numbers 9:22 Whether the cloud stayed over the tabernacle for two days or a month or a year, the Israelites would remain in camp and not set out; but when it lifted, they would set out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960251270/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bunton@acay.com.au Tue Jun 06 04:20:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 5561 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 04:50:08 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 04:50:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4175-960353406-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.39] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 04:50:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30870 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 04:27:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.10.39 with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 04:27:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 04:27:01 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912447.acay.com.au [203.19.124.47]) by hamtic.acay.com.au (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA89817 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:29:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <393C7C07.97E8886F@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US,pdf To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Frank Bunton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:20:23 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Seward wrote: > Who likes marmite? ug! Surely only a Pommie would like that stuff!! Vegemite is what a true blue Aussie eats and relishes!! -- ------------------------------------------------ Join the fight against SPAM! Go to http://www.caube.org.au/ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- mailto:bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton Home of:- Bunton Family Tree Paton Family Tree AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember four years of good friends, bad clothes, explosive chemistry experiments. http://click.egroups.com/1/4051/3/_/490399/_/960353389/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Tue Jun 06 18:38:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8696 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 18:38:15 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:38:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4168-960316689-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 18:38:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1355 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bucky.excite.com) (198.3.99.218) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000606183808.RRI25535.bucky.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: <28290316.960316688886.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.167 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:17:20 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Mark Tierno wrote: > > Minor American question... What the heck's a Twiglet? > > A corn snack; the pieces look a bit like pieces of twig. > > *tries desperately to bring this thread back on topic* > > Uhm... uh... Half-Life can be played on neither Twiglets nor Amigas. Now Half-life, i could talk for days on that! I make levels for it all the time. We need a game like that on the Amiga now. Its based on the Quake 2 engine, and i read somewhere that a quake 2 engine-based game was being made fot the amiga. anyone know anything about it? Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960316674/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Tue Jun 06 18:45:43 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9210 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 18:45:45 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:45:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4169-960317144-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 18:45:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 30327 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 18:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 18:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bucky.excite.com) (198.3.99.218) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:45:43 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000606184543.SYX25535.bucky.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:45:43 -0700 Message-ID: <25456254.960317143006.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.167 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:18:36 +0000, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > Ok, a tad OT, but anyway, ;) > > > I've heard a quite good song on the radio, but I have no idea what it was called, so therefore cannot find a copy > > Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things on Amster and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I think it goes something like this: > > > ..Something something... > > I came alive, when I heard my favourite song, > > Hello world... > > Here I am... > > Tune me in... > > To the frequency of life... Havent a clue mate, sorry. What radio station and who was playing it? Oh btw, when u find out what it's called, have a look on Napster for it (you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster client for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960317128/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Tue Jun 06 18:47:34 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9531 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 18:48:57 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:48:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4170-960317333-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 18:48:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 31818 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 18:47:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 18:47:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 18:47:47 -0000 Received: from p120.nas4.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.201.248] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #35) id 12zONK-0004UM-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:46:55 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <28290316.960316688886.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Vulpix X-Zero-Hour: in 208 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:47:34 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga games (was: Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Butler wrote: > Now Half-life, i could talk for days on that! I make levels for it > all the time. We need a game like that on the Amiga now. Controversy time: I stopped caring about Amiga games a long time ago. I have a console to play games on. It's cheap, fast, and does far better 3D than I'm ever going to get out of my Amiga. Of course, I could upgrade the Amiga, but I don't see the point when the console games are so great. My Amiga is used as an Internet terminal, and for music and graphics. It can't cope with the kinds of games that I want to play, so I have something else for those. -Stephen (waiting for the angry responses) -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960317318/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wayne@here.is Tue Jun 06 18:59:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10442 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 19:00:29 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 19:00:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4171-960318026-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 19:00:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 32406 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 19:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 19:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 19:00:25 -0000 Received: from www.pyrah.co.uk (pyrah@cheese4.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.104]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA16035 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:02:54 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25456254.960317143006.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Wayne Pyrah - H y p e r B o y - MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:59:35 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark On 06-Jun-00, you wrote: >> Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things on > *Amster* and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I > think it goes something like this: > btw, when u find out what it's called, have a look on Napster for it > (you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster client > for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) Try Amster ! - I think there is another client also called Anapster. I'd try aminet 1st. Regards Wayne --=20 From : Wayne Pyrah - [ H y p e r B o y ] - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, Engl= and, UK --=20 Join my website announcement list - http://www.pyrah.co.uk.listbot.com --=20 Paid to watch ads @ http://www.bepaid.com/users.rhtml?REFID=3D10857997 =A0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960318010/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Tue Jun 06 19:04:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10820 invoked by uid 504); 6 Jun 2000 19:05:46 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 19:05:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4172-960318343-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2000 19:05:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 18420 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2000 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 6 Jun 2000 19:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ewey.excite.com) (198.3.99.191) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2000 19:04:53 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000606190453.VUX14345.ewey.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: <6505666.960318293681.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.167 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:59:35 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hi Mark > > On 06-Jun-00, you wrote: > >> Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things on > > *Amster* and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I > > think it goes something like this: > > > btw, when u find out what it's called, have a look on Napster for it > > (you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster client > > for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) > > Try Amster ! - I think there is another client also called Anapster. I'd > try aminet 1st. > > Regards > Wayne WTF!?!! How did I miss that in the first mail? soz all Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960318328/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Tue Jun 06 20:38:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24432 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 09:58:06 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 09:58:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4176-960371882-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 09:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15989 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 09:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 09:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bart.callnet0800.com) (212.67.128.108) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 09:58:01 -0000 Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com [212.67.128.5] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A41412B400F0; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:58:44 +0100 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.129.100] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2FB8000304; Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:54:03 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: roger buckley MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:38:11 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga games (was: Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stephen On 06-Jun-00, you wrote: > My Amiga is used as an Internet terminal, and for music and graphics. > It can't cope with the kinds of games that I want to play, so I > have something else for those. > > -Stephen (waiting for the angry responses) > Not at all. It's horses for courses. I've got the miggy, playstation and an ancient PC so between them I can accomplish virtually everything I want to do.. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer. Website:-http://www.callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu ICQ-62990780 Robuck2 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/3/_/490399/_/960371865/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Wed Jun 07 02:34:48 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1113 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 01:33:03 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 01:33:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4174-960341572-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.39] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 01:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 18686 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 01:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.10.39 with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 01:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 01:32:52 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla1-p28.lafn.org [192.168.20.28] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA12162 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25456254.960317143006.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 18:34:48 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mark On 06-Jun-00, you wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:18:36 +0000, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> Ok, a tad OT, but anyway, ;) >> >> >> I've heard a quite good song on the radio, but I have no idea >> what it > was called, so therefore cannot find a copy >> >> Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things >> on > Amster and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I > think it goes something like this: >> >> >> ..Something something... >> >> I came alive, when I heard my favourite song, >> >> Hello world... >> >> Here I am... >> >> Tune me in... >> >> To the frequency of life... > > Havent a clue mate, sorry. What radio station and who was playing it? > Oh btw, when u find out what it's called, have a look on Napster for > it (you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster > client for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) A friend of mine uses Amster, the Amiga version of Napster. I only know the name, but you might do a search and find it. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/3/_/490399/_/960341556/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Wed Jun 07 16:18:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31485 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 16:19:21 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 16:19:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4177-960394759-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 16:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2920 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 16:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 16:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 16:19:18 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust116.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.116]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA01928 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:19:16 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <28290316.960316688886.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:18:21 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06-Jun-00 at 14:38:08, Mark Butler wrote these words of wisdom: > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:17:20 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > >> Mark Tierno wrote: >> > Minor American question... What the heck's a Twiglet? >> >> A corn snack; the pieces look a bit like pieces of twig. >> >> *tries desperately to bring this thread back on topic* >> >> Uhm... uh... Half-Life can be played on neither Twiglets nor Amigas. > > Now Half-life, i could talk for days on that! I make levels for it all the > time. We need a game like that on the Amiga now. Its based on the Quake 2 > engine, and i read somewhere that a quake 2 engine-based game was being > made fot the amiga. anyone know anything about it? Hyperion probably... -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960394741/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Wed Jun 07 16:22:55 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31992 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 16:23:52 -0000 Received: from jj.egroups.com (208.50.144.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 16:23:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4178-960395029-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 16:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23166 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 16:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 16:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 16:23:48 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust116.tnt2.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.25.248.116]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15939 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:23:46 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <25456254.960317143006.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:22:55 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06-Jun-00 at 14:45:43, Mark Butler wrote these words of wisdom: > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:18:36 +0000, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> Ok, a tad OT, but anyway, ;) >> >> I've heard a quite good song on the radio, but I have no idea what it > was called, so therefore cannot find a copy >> >> Before you ask, I've tried searching for all the obvious things on > Amster and audiogalaxy ;) Now, this may not be entirly correct, but I > think it goes something like this: >> >> >> ..Something something... >> >> I came alive, when I heard my favourite song, >> >> Hello world... >> >> Here I am... >> >> Tune me in... >> >> To the frequency of life... > > Havent a clue mate, sorry. What radio station and who was playing it? Oh > btw, when u find out what it's called, have a look on Napster for it > (you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster client > for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) Amiga OS has 2 Napster clients and rumors of a 3rd in development. They are: Amster - http://www.amigart.com/amster/ aNapster - http://www.crosswinds.net/~jsiv/anapster/ -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960395011/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ianurie@redhotants.com Wed Jun 07 20:38:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31498 invoked by uid 504); 7 Jun 2000 21:06:45 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 21:06:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4179-960411794-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2000 21:03:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 5643 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 21:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jun 2000 21:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 21:03:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 19535 invoked by uid 101); 7 Jun 2000 20:40:11 -0000 Received: from user102.jakinternet.co.uk (HELO 195.217.161.153) (rhaa0105516@212.41.32.102) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 20:40:11 -0000 To: "Mike Leavitt" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <553.193T278T12383449ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Ian Urie" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 7 Jun 2000 20:38:5 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: That song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07-Jun-00 02:34:48, Mike Leavitt said about [just-amiga] Re: That song: >Hello Mark >>(you'll have to use a smelly PC, unless anyone know of a Napster >> client for the Amiga. Now theres an idea....) >A friend of mine uses Amster, the Amiga version of Napster. I only know >the name, but you might do a search and find it. Amster works fine,as does ANapster which doesn't have all the bells and whistles of Amster .....but does work exceedingly well ,too! -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 A mind is a terrible thing to taste. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960411776/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jun 08 11:54:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11866 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 13:25:38 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 13:25:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4180-960470735-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 13:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11005 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 13:25:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 13:25:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.172) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 13:25:34 -0000 Received: from modem-39.copper.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.28.39] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 1302JQ-0002sC-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:25:32 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:54:54 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anyone remember this game? I got the demo version off an AF coverdisk ages ago, and always meant to register it, but never got around to it. I've been playing it on my A600 (with the 1200's old monitor- I'm almost blinded after the bliss of .50Hz refresh),and I wondered if anyone knew of a newer version than the 1.3 on Aminet? The web url that was in the docs no longer works, and the author's mail address expired at the end of1996. I'm assuming that the author has long since gone to PC land. Sooner, Sandy, nostalgic -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5, PPC and BV Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- For sale: Parachute, used once, never opened, small stain. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960470716/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From blitzwing@goldweb.com.au Thu Jun 08 13:33:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13107 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 13:36:53 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 13:36:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4181-960471409-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 14:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8701 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 13:36:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 13:36:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aramis.goldweb.com.au) (203.37.36.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 13:36:43 -0000 Received: from goldweb.com.au (blitzwing.nethouse.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.21]) by aramis.goldweb.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 13A5B2B83C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:36:21 +1000 (EST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Blitzwing MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:33:12 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Sandy you blurted something about On 08-Jun-00, you wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone remember this game? I got the demo version off an AF coverdisk > ages ago, and always meant to register it, but never got around to it. > I've been playing it on my A600 (with the 1200's old monitor- I'm almost > blinded after the bliss of .50Hz refresh),and I wondered if anyone knew of > a newer version than the 1.3 on Aminet? The web url that was in the docs > no longer works, and the author's mail address expired at the end of1996. > I'm assuming that the author has long since gone to PC land. > > > Sooner, > > Sandy, nostalgic > you're not talking about Alien breed i take it.... Regards Blitzwing -- I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960471390/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk Thu Jun 08 14:07:23 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16245 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 14:07:31 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 14:07:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4182-960473249-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 14:07:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26149 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 14:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 14:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ej.egroups.com) (10.1.10.49) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 14:07:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.109] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 14:07:28 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: <8ho9ar+j0hg@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "Michael Carrillo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:07:23 -0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- In just-amiga@egroups.com, Blitzwing wrote: > Greetings Sandy you blurted something about=20 > you're not talking about Alien breed i take it.... >=20 Nope, Breed'96 was a simn type game, pretty much on the K240 mould. Blooming good it was too, shame I never regitered it either :( Regards Mikey C ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and C++ to mobile computing. Early Bird registration - save =A3200 NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/4855/3/_/490399/_/960473230/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jun 08 18:03:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18243 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 19:04:11 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 19:04:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4183-960491048-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 19:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5200 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 19:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 19:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 19:04:06 -0000 Received: from modem-103.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.231] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 1307b1-0000Jj-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:04:04 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 19:03:35 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Re: Breed96," starring Blitzwing... On 08-Jun-00, you wrote: >> Does anyone remember this game? I got the demo version off an AF >> coverdisk ages ago, and always meant to register it, but never got around >> to it. I've been playing it on my A600 (with the 1200's old monitor- I'm >> almost blinded after the bliss of .50Hz refresh),and I wondered if anyone >> knew of a newer version than the 1.3 on Aminet? The web url that was in >> the docs no longer works, and the author's mail address expired at the >> end of1996. I'm assuming that the author has long since gone to PC land. > you're not talking about Alien breed i take it.... Nope. This was a kind of "build up a settlement on your home planet while simultaneously launching spacecraft and kicking opposing civilisations butts" type thing. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5, PPC and BV Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Chinese names and their meanings: Tai Ni Po Ni -Small Horse ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960491028/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Thu Jun 08 21:56:06 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29445 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 20:55:57 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 20:55:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4184-960497754-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 20:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10493 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 20:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 20:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 20:55:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 32325 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 20:55:44 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-12.cvx1.telinco.net (HELO cally.abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.136.12) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 20:55:44 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:56:06 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Miami 32b fault Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I would appreciate any help with a prob I'm having with Miami. It started after I tried to alter the settings to use an additional ISP. I think I tried to 'move' a backup copy (in a different partition) while Miami window was open. Every copy in all partitions are affected in the same way. I re-installed from floppy backup. After power-up or reboot I have to run Miami_Install or else Miami will not open. MiamiInit will not open and says 'cannot open GUI' I don't have to re-configure - the settings remain intact. I just have to run the installer. Voyager crashes fairly often needind a reboot so its a bit more than inconvenirnt. It only seems to need Miami_Install to getthe GUI going - the settings are still ok. MUI is in Miami/Libs ( MUI.MiamiGui MUI.MiamiToolsGui MUIMWB.pch spatch also bpf pcap and socks .librarys) Tried putting spatch in workbench:C no difference Tried installin GTLayout - same result. 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Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960497734/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Jun 08 22:45:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2276 invoked by uid 504); 8 Jun 2000 21:45:27 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 21:45:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4185-960500724-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2000 21:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 25080 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 21:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Jun 2000 21:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 21:45:19 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax05-017.enterprise.net [212.161.115.17]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11858 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:45:14 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 22:45:12 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > Nope. This was a kind of "build up a settlement on your home planet while > simultaneously launching spacecraft and kicking opposing civilisations > butts" type thing. Here, I've found a copy on Aminet and apparently it's a commercial game: Registration is no longer available as Breed96 is going (or possibly by the time you've read this gone) commercial. If you would like further information contact Vulcan Software Limited on (01705) 670269 Although it sounds a bit like a game I've started, 'Solar Conquest'. You /could/ just wait for that to come out :) I'll support internet multiplayer and all ;) There's even some early screenshots on my website See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Driving down the endless road, taking friends or moving alone -- Simply Red ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960500704/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Mightyone@reaperman.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 09 00:00:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14665 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 00:01:00 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 00:01:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4186-960508854-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 00:00:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5249 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 00:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 00:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.90) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 00:00:53 -0000 Received: from reaperman.demon.co.uk ([193.237.79.102]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 130CEF-000OKU-0W for just-amiga@egroups.com; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:00:51 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: "P.Steadman" From: "P.Steadman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 01:00:21 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 Challenge, Amiga team page at: distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, currently with 64 Bit keys, Computers all over the net are running small clients which download blocks from a keyserver when they connect to the internet and then tick away in the background cracking the keys, one out of billions will decode a message. It is perfectly legal as the company that developed the codes is running the competition. 1 week ago 25%of the keyspace had been searched. The Amiga is well supported in this challenge, there are 68k (020 or higher) and PPC clients. I discovered that the Amiga team, as of two weeks ago, is ranked 6th overall (Dead Platform ???) having been recently overtaken by a russian team. another russian team is closing fast. I decided to put my PPC card to good use and uphold the Amiga's honour, I downloaded the client, this was followed by a GUI program, Myzar, which helps you set it up and operate it. Now I got a little window with progress indicator and keyspeed stats on my workbench. about six hours running and I've cracked 11.6 Billion keys so far. (about 12 blocks) All are welcome at Team Amiga but they prefer it if at least one of your computers is an Amiga Even bare A1200 14MHz systems can crack these keys and every key cracked and attributed to Team Amiga helps to keep the russkies at bay. Check out this site and think about doing your bit for the Amiga and Internet security. the client and GUI prog are easy to install and operate. It only uses spare CPU cycles (Priority -120) and if set up correctly only links to the server once when you connect to the net, to upload cracked blocks and refill your buffer file with new blocks to work on later. this takes about 10-15 seconds at login to grab 50 blocks and upload about 10. Wouldn't it be nice if an Amiga found the correct key, or better still finished in top position? btw my stats now show 12.6 billion Kind regards Stead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960508834/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From alden1@airmail.net Fri Jun 09 01:18:47 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19926 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 01:18:57 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 01:18:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4187-960513534-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 01:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9775 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 01:18:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 01:18:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 01:18:54 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.39.246] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.438) with smtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:18:53 -0500 (CDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Jon Peterson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 20:18:47 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello P.Steadman On 08-Jun-00, you wrote: > Hello, > Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 > Challenge, Amiga team page at: > distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html > The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, currently with 64 > Bit keys, > Computers all over the net are running small clients which download blocks > from a keyserver when they connect to the internet and then tick away in > the background cracking the keys, one out of billions will decode a > message. It is perfectly legal as the company that developed the codes is > running the competition. 1 week ago 25%of the keyspace had been searched. > > The Amiga is well supported in this challenge, there are 68k (020 or higher) > and PPC clients. I discovered that the Amiga team, as of two weeks ago, is > ranked 6th overall (Dead Platform ???) having been recently overtaken by a > russian team. another russian team is closing fast. It would be great to have some increased support for the Amiga effort. I have been running the Myzar program in support of the effort for a year or so. Very simply to set up and just let it run in the background. Myzar shows your stats and allows you to simply input the completed packets when you choose. Hope to have all join the effort! Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960513514/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From pelind@algonet.se Fri Jun 09 07:16:13 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4119 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 06:17:23 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 06:17:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4188-960531436-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 06:17:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6024 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 06:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 06:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO d1o86.telia.com) (62.20.182.241) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 06:17:15 -0000 Received: from cad3 (t1o86p10.telia.com [62.20.182.10]) by d1o86.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01633 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000801bfd1e2$986e1af0$3d09a8c0@cad3.mikrovr> To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Peter Lindberg" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:16:13 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: SV: [just-amiga] Re: RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >and allows you to simply input the completed packets when you choose. Hope to >have all join the effort! to bad the newmember form won't work :/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960531416/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From hugo@inbbs.fsnet.co.uk Fri Jun 09 08:01:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8141 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 07:09:48 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 07:09:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4189-960534586-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 07:09:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9916 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 07:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 07:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.173) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 07:09:45 -0000 Received: from modem-140.massachusetts.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.72.140] helo=inbbs) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 130IvI-0001sJ-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:09:44 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Hugo Wilkinson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:01:35 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All > Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 > Challenge, Amiga team page at: > > distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html > > The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, currently with > 64 Bit keys, i've been on the Amiga team a good year now... its very satisfying to watch the team stay up in the top10... although as the 'MightyOne' pointed out, Russian teams and a Japanese one are closing fast... we had been fifth for a long time... lets get back up there!!!!!!!! :) cya hugo -- The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960534565/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From magnus.sjoberg@asdo.se Fri Jun 09 17:45:00 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10976 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 17:45:11 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 17:45:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4190-960572708-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 17:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15362 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pine.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 17:45:06 -0000 Received: from asdogate.asdo.se (asdogate.asdo.se [194.132.65.82]) by pine.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01612 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:45:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by bu-asdogate with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Sj=F6berg_Magnus=2C_Dyn=E4s=22?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:45:00 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] LS 120 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All! 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Early Bird registration - save =A3200 NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/4855/3/_/490399/_/960572686/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From a.paynter@zoo.co.uk Fri Jun 09 21:27:27 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2834 invoked by uid 504); 9 Jun 2000 21:27:50 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 21:27:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4191-960586064-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2000 21:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 24410 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 21:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jun 2000 21:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoo4.zoo.co.uk) (194.216.59.4) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2000 21:27:42 -0000 Received: from zoo.co.uk (Harlech@d5-100.dialup.zoo.co.uk [193.192.66.100]) by zoo4.zoo.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13701 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:27:36 +0100 (BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: WLCC From: Alan Paynter MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 22:27:27 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi P.Steadman On 09-Jun-00, P.Steadman wrote: > Hello, > Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 > Challenge, Amiga team page at: > > distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html Thanx for reminding me of neglected duty ;-) - I'M NOW IN! > btw my stats now show 12.6 billion > 12.6 billion of what exactly, blocks? anyway, whatever they are, ppc knocks em down nicely :) -- Regards (aka Harlech) Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Amiga 1260/50T.PPC 603e BVision,SVGA,12G HD,Powerflyer 56K Modem,Yamaha 400t CDR,40x CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960586042/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Mightyone@reaperman.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 09 23:22:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25036 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 18:16:33 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 18:16:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4195-960660986-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 18:16:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23453 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 18:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 18:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 18:16:12 -0000 Received: from reaperman.demon.co.uk ([193.237.79.102]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 130Y6H-00093v-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 23:22:06 +0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: "P.Steadman" From: "P.Steadman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:22:20 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 Challenge, Amiga team page at: distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, currently with 64 Bit keys, Computers all over the net are running small clients which download blocks from a keyserver when they connect to the internet and then tick away in the background cracking the keys, one out of billions will decode a message. It is perfectly legal as the company that developed the codes is running the competition. 1 week ago 25%of the keyspace had been searched. The Amiga is well supported in this challenge, there are 68k (020 or higher) and PPC clients. I discovered that the Amiga team, as of two weeks ago, is ranked 6th overall (Dead Platform ???) having been recently overtaken by a russian team. another russian team is closing fast. I decided to put my PPC card to good use and uphold the Amiga's honour, I downloaded the client, this was followed by a GUI program, Myzar, which helps you set it up and operate it. Now I got a little window with progress indicator and keyspeed stats on my workbench. about six hours running and I've cracked 11.6 Billion keys so far. (about 12 blocks) All are welcome at Team Amiga but they prefer it if at least one of your computers is an Amiga Even bare A1200 14MHz systems can crack these keys and every key cracked and attributed to Team Amiga helps to keep the russkies at bay. Check out this site and think about doing your bit for the Amiga and Internet security. the client and GUI prog are easy to install and operate. It only uses spare CPU cycles (Priority -120) and if set up correctly only links to the server once when you connect to the net, to upload cracked blocks and refill your buffer file with new blocks to work on later. this takes about 10-15 seconds at login to grab 50 blocks and upload about 10. Wouldn't it be nice if an Amiga found the correct key, or better still finished in top position? btw my stats now show 12.6 billion Kind regards Stead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960660963/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Jun 10 03:48:41 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32553 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 12:45:14 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 12:45:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4192-960641111-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 12:45:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8562 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 12:45:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 12:45:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 12:45:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32543 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 12:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@213.108.11.127) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 12:45:06 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 03:48:41 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, On 09-Jun-00, you wrote: > The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, Where have you been for the past.... ages :)... this is very old news, how did you miss it :)? > ranked 6th overall (Dead Platform ???) having been recently overtaken by a > russian team. another russian team is closing fast. I do like the 5th, now 6th position of the Amiga, but when you think about it, the amiga effort is the worldwide Amiga effort, where some are just like the Japanese Linux effort, only one country. Its like on the Amiga effort, they'd appreciated it if at least one computer was an Amiga. Can the japanese team say, we wish one member of your family is japanese but it doesn't matter if your not from japan, like we can use PCs and Macs for the Amiga effort, isn't that slightly off point? Nextly, twiglets are horrible, marmite and vegimite also join the horrible gang but fruit pastles are king... whoops, did i just bring up another food argument ;)? Twiglets aren't actually like prestles. On a last note, i'm jealous of all the americans who still get to drink Mountain Dew, i loved that drink but they stopped selling it here in the UK, along with Tab and Tab Clear... plus this week i had a lemon crunchie, trust me, your best to avoid these limited edition and hope they run out soon, they are terrible. I'll just leave now! (Excuse all spelling, grammer, etc mistakes, its 3:48am and i'm actually tired after getting up at 7:30am g'night!) Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960641087/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jun 10 15:12:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12656 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 22:58:27 -0000 Received: from ml.egroups.com (208.50.144.77) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 22:58:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4200-960677905-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 23:58:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14282 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 22:58:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 22:58:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.175) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 22:58:23 -0000 Received: from modem-55.arizona.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.54.55] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 130uCr-0006rj-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:58:21 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.arizona.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 10 Jun 0 23:56:33 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3942C911.16BAE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:12:33 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday June 10 2000, Chris Seward said to P.steadman: >> The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, CS> Where have you been for the past.... ages :)... this is very old news, CS> how did you miss it :)? It's been running for years and will still be going in another three, at least - so it's worth repeating I think :) CS> I do like the 5th, now 6th position of the Amiga, but when you think CS> about it, the amiga effort is the worldwide Amiga effort, where some CS> are just like the Japanese Linux effort, only one country. Its like on Japan isn't, like, Holyhead. There are a few million there. CS> the Amiga effort, they'd appreciated it if at least one computer was an CS> Amiga. Can the japanese team say, we wish one member of your family is CS> japanese but it doesn't matter if your not from japan, like we can use CS> PCs and Macs for the Amiga effort, isn't that slightly off point? Non-slashdot people crack for slashdot using non-linux computers. Non-ex-USSR people crack for ex-USSR. And besides, what else is a PC useful for when you have an Amiga? :) CS> Nextly, twiglets are horrible, marmite and vegimite also join the CS> horrible gang but fruit pastles are king... whoops, did i just bring up CS> another food argument ;)? Do you mean Starbursts or has yet another product rename confused me entirely? CS> Twiglets aren't actually like prestles. Close enough such that you don't notice the different while projectile vomiting. CS> On a last note, i'm jealous of all the americans who still get to drink CS> Mountain Dew, i loved that drink but they stopped selling it here in CS> the UK, along with Tab and Tab Clear... My Amiga has a tab key. (LOOTAR) CS> plus this week i had a lemon CS> crunchie, trust me, your best to avoid these limited edition and hope CS> they run out soon, they are terrible. Lemon crunchie?? How dare they corrupt such magnificence! CS> (Excuse all spelling, grammer, etc mistakes, its 3:48am and i'm CS> actually tired after getting up at 7:30am g'night!) When asked to do a double shift, staple the offending manager to a table by the fingers. -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960677881/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From steve@maxxefx.com Sat Jun 10 16:38:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24412 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 18:09:07 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 18:09:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4194-960660541-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 18:09:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 23082 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 18:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 18:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.etexnet.com) (209.144.20.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 18:08:54 -0000 Received: from maxxefx.com (208.180.116.136[208.180.116.136])by WEBTIME-02(MailMax 3.059) with ESMTP id 4160590 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:18:03 -0500 CDT To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch From: Stephen Self MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:38:31 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: (inc FOOD), was RC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mountain Dew is still available, but Tab of any kind is not. It was > replaced by diet Coke, which I like, but it isn't Tab. I've never even > seen Tab Clear. Did you know Mountain Dew has more caffine than Coke? > Maybe you could order a case or two here from the states or from > Canada. We also have diet Mountain Dew, which is pretty good. > From What I understand, the major Lightwave houses would have to shut down if Mountain Dew was pulled fron the market here in the U.S. The joke is that as deadlines near, the animators cook Mountain Dew down into a syrup, mix in some strawberry surge, and call for an I.V. bag..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960660517/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Sat Jun 10 17:17:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15025 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 16:16:05 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 16:16:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4193-960653758-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 16:16:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8990 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 16:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 16:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 16:15:56 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (ac998lafn.org@cs-wla2-p33.lafn.org [192.168.16.33] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA12816 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:17:46 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (inc FOOD), was RC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris On 09-Jun-00, you wrote: > On a last note, i'm jealous of all the americans who > still get to drink Mountain Dew, i loved that drink > but they stopped selling it here in the UK, along > with Tab and Tab Clear... plus this week i had a > lemon crunchie, trust me, your best to avoid these > limited edition and hope they run out soon, they > are terrible. Mountain Dew is still available, but Tab of any kind is not. It was replaced by diet Coke, which I like, but it isn't Tab. I've never even seen Tab Clear. Did you know Mountain Dew has more caffine than Coke? Maybe you could order a case or two here from the states or from Canada. We also have diet Mountain Dew, which is pretty good. I know several people with Amigas on RC5, BTW. Wonder what the percentage is? Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960653735/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Sat Jun 10 18:03:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21044 invoked by uid 504); 11 Jun 2000 18:03:47 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 18:03:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4202-960746621-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 18:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27944 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 18:03:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jun 2000 18:03:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 18:03:38 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp39.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.232]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA22381; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:33:25 +0930 To: JAM Mail List , I-Amiga Main Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 03:33:33 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] SCSI answer - maybe!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All... There was some discussion on one of the mail lists recently about why SCSI doesn't work on certain Amigas. I found the following which may help those with this problem. *--- start Q and A ---* Q: Why doesn't SCSI work on the A4000? A: It does. But because of a bug in early versions of the Zorro-III DMA controller (the "Buster" chip), DMA SCSI controllers didn't work properly. This problem can be fixed (by replacing the early revision 9 Buster with a revision 11 version) or avoided altogether (by using a SCSI controller that doesn't use the Zorro-III bus, like the one built into the Warp Engine accelerator). *--- end Q and A ---* I know nothing of the technical side of the above, so, please don't mail me with questions as I won't know the answers. Hope this helps someone. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint -- Mark Twain *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960746595/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sat Jun 10 19:08:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28846 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 19:08:39 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:08:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4196-960664114-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 19:08:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 31220 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 19:08:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 19:08:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gigi.excite.com) (199.172.152.110) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:08:33 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000610190833.VUR5059.gigi.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:08:33 -0700 Message-ID: <20802218.960664113653.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.167 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:22:20 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hello, > Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 > Challenge, Amiga team page at: > > distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html > Hmmm, Im sure Ive read this somewhere before.... :-) Dont worry mate, we've all done it at one stage of our internet lives, me included. Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960664090/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Mightyone@reaperman.demon.co.uk Sat Jun 10 19:32:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30580 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 19:33:43 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:33:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4197-960665617-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 19:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18086 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.89) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:33:36 -0000 Received: from reaperman.demon.co.uk ([193.237.79.102]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 130r0c-000EGo-0V for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:33:31 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: "P.Steadman" From: "P.Steadman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:32:46 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 Challenge, Amiga team page at: distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, currently with 64 Bit keys, Computers all over the net are running small clients which download blocks from a keyserver when they connect to the internet and then tick away in the background cracking the keys, one out of billions will decode a message. It is perfectly legal as the company that developed the codes is running the competition. 1 week ago 25%of the keyspace had been searched. The Amiga is well supported in this challenge, there are 68k (020 or higher) and PPC clients. I discovered that the Amiga team, as of two weeks ago, is ranked 6th overall (Dead Platform ???) having been recently overtaken by a russian team. another russian team is closing fast. I decided to put my PPC card to good use and uphold the Amiga's honour, I downloaded the client, this was followed by a GUI program, Myzar, which helps you set it up and operate it. Now I got a little window with progress indicator and keyspeed stats on my workbench. about six hours running and I've cracked 11.6 Billion keys so far. (about 12 blocks) All are welcome at Team Amiga but they prefer it if at least one of your computers is an Amiga Even bare A1200 14MHz systems can crack these keys and every key cracked and attributed to Team Amiga helps to keep the russkies at bay. Check out this site and think about doing your bit for the Amiga and Internet security. the client and GUI prog are easy to install and operate. It only uses spare CPU cycles (Priority -120) and if set up correctly only links to the server once when you connect to the net, to upload cracked blocks and refill your buffer file with new blocks to work on later. this takes about 10-15 seconds at login to grab 50 blocks and upload about 10. Wouldn't it be nice if an Amiga found the correct key, or better still finished in top position? btw my stats now show 12.6 billion Kind regards Stead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you like to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month? 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Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/3/_/490399/_/960665593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sat Jun 10 19:47:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31623 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 19:47:13 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:47:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4198-960666428-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 19:47:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18443 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000610194707.DKVI25834.kuku.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:47:07 -0700 Message-ID: <4636583.960666427935.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.167 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:32:46 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hello, > Looking for Amiga news yesterday, I came across the RC5-64 > Challenge, Amiga team page at: > > distributed.amiga.org/RC5-64/fm_members-3.html (again) Wow! A third time, this must be an important message. Cheers, -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960666405/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chaos@free4all.co.uk Sat Jun 10 22:26:47 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10782 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 2000 22:28:19 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 22:28:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4199-960676094-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 22:28:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19769 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 22:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 22:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 22:28:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 32171 invoked by uid 101); 10 Jun 2000 22:05:14 -0000 Received: from user957.jakinternet.co.uk (HELO redhotant.com) (Pops@212.41.35.190) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 22:05:14 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <28290316.960316688886.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk/wai/johnlord.gif" X-eGroups-From: John Lord From: John Lord MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:26:47 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Blank topic, wooo) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mark , On 06-Jun-00, you wrote: > Now Half-life, i could talk for days on that! I make levels for it all the > time. We need a game like that on the Amiga now. Its based on the Quake 2 > engine, and i read somewhere that a quake 2 engine-based game was being made > fot the amiga. anyone know anything about it? IINM Heretic II uses that engine, and I've played the demo, and it looks very nice. Puts anything we've had so far in the shade. And it needs a PPC card and a graphics card to get anything special out of it. I started the demo using the ordinary gfx rendering routines, but when I switched to the Warp GL version, wow, what a difference. :) Have a look at http://www.hyperion-software.de And there are others in the pipe line also. Regards -- I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. John http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk John E Lord. chaos@free4all.co.uk ICQ 39248297 Nick = Chaos *** OS 3.5 *** ~*--------- A1200 BlizzardPPC 240mhz 060/50 --------*~ ~*----------------- BlizzardVision ----------------*~ Supporting Magnum Opus - http://www.magnumopus.co.uk Supporting Free Local Calls - http://www.unmetered.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Big Groups = big savings @ beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/4112/3/_/490399/_/960676070/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Jun 11 12:44:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28497 invoked by uid 504); 11 Jun 2000 12:48:59 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 12:48:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4201-960727734-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 12:48:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 31511 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 12:48:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jun 2000 12:48:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 12:48:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28459 invoked by uid 504); 11 Jun 2000 12:48:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@213.108.10.26) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 12:48:48 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8ho9ar+j0hg@eGroups.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:44:29 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Breed96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy etc, On 08-Jun-00, you wrote: > Nope, Breed'96 was a simn type game, pretty much on the K240 mould. Wow, i remember this, it was GREAT!!! > > Blooming good it was too, shame I never regitered it either :( I did plan to register this myself at the time I played it.... does anyone wonder why it stopped being produced if the users are made up of "I was going to register that"'ers. Dear me :( Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : o777 3o7 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 3o7 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk *SUPPORTING ENGLAND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE EURO 2000 COMPETITION* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960727709/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jun 11 20:25:48 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2377 invoked by uid 504); 11 Jun 2000 20:48:37 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 20:48:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4203-960756502-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 20:48:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11436 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 20:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jun 2000 20:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.171) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 20:48:21 -0000 Received: from modem-79.thulium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.54.79] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 131EeY-0005Hr-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:48:19 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3942C911.16BAE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:25:48 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD)," starring ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... On 10-Jun-00, you wrote: >>> The purpose of this challenge is to test encryption codes, >> Where have you been for the past.... ages :)... this is very old >> news, >> how did you miss it :)? > > It's been running for years and will still be going in another three, at > least - so it's worth repeating I think :) I'll sign up soon, honest! >> I do like the 5th, now 6th position of the Amiga, but when you think >> about it, the amiga effort is the worldwide Amiga effort, where some >> are just like the Japanese Linux effort, only one country. Its like > on > > Japan isn't, like, Holyhead. There are a few million there. Yes; how many Amiga users are in the world? Fewer than Japanese Linuxians methinks. >> the Amiga effort, they'd appreciated it if at least one computer was >> an >> Amiga. Can the japanese team say, we wish one member of your family >> is >> japanese but it doesn't matter if your not from japan, like we can >> use >> PCs and Macs for the Amiga effort, isn't that slightly off point? > > Non-slashdot people crack for slashdot using non-linux computers. > Non-ex-USSR people crack for ex-USSR. And besides, what else is a PC > useful for when you have an Amiga? :) Hmm, I think it would be better if only Amigas were used, but I suppose anything for the cause is good. And you could be running UAE for all we know... >> Nextly, twiglets are horrible, marmite and vegimite also join the >> horrible gang but fruit pastles are king... whoops, did i just bring >> up >> another food argument ;)? > > Do you mean Starbursts or has yet another product rename confused me > entirely? Starbursts? I still call them Opal Fruits. Fruit pastles are made by the same people, but are like suger coated jelly sweets. (For the Americans, not jelly as in jam, jelly as in wobbly fruity stuff, but a bit stiffer in this case) >> Twiglets aren't actually like prestles. > > Close enough such that you don't notice the different while projectile > vomiting. Chalming. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5, PPC and BV Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.0 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Where'd me tag go? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take your development to new heights. Work with clients like Dell and pcOrder. Submit your resume to jobs@liaison.com. Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960756476/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Jun 12 23:31:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13484 invoked by uid 504); 12 Jun 2000 23:33:18 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2000 23:33:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4204-960852788-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2000 23:33:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23145 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2000 23:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Jun 2000 23:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2000 23:33:06 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay019124137.acay.com.au [203.19.124.137]) by hamtic.acay.com.au (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA33548 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:36:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <394572E0.4CD70752@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US,pdf To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Frank Bunton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:31:44 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Seward wrote: > On 09-Jun-00, you wrote: > On a last note, i'm jealous of all the americans who > still get to drink Mountain Dew, i loved that drink > but they stopped selling it here in the UK, along Come on out to the "The Land Downunder" where all good things are avialable! 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Go to http://www.caube.org.au/ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- mailto:bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton Home of:- Bunton Family Tree Paton Family Tree AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960852760/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Mightyone@reaperman.demon.co.uk Tue Jun 13 00:20:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19086 invoked by uid 504); 13 Jun 2000 00:39:28 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:39:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4205-960856706-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 00:39:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 32751 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 00:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 00:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.90) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:38:25 -0000 Received: from reaperman.demon.co.uk ([193.237.79.102]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 131eik-0002Ui-0W for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:38:23 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: "P.Steadman" From: "P.Steadman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:20:22 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] RC5 Ooops. sorry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, to all who received 3 copies of my RC5 mail. terribly sorry about that ... ;EXCUSE BEGIN It appears that my mail from just-amiga got delayed by three days, still don't know why. so when i sent the first mail it didn't come back to me as it usually does with my just-amiga download. leading me to suppose it hadn't arrived. so i checked the address from another mail in my archive and discovered that onelist was now egroups, so i slapped my forehead and thought what a silly bunt. then i re-addressed it and sent it again. that never came back to me either, i thought the re-addressing process in YAM had decided not to send it twice 8) so i moved it to outgoing and i sent it again, meanwhile i was testing my e-mail by mailing myself test after test all of which returned within 15 minutes. it was only when i spoke to Chris Seward on IRC i discovered that my just-amiga mail was missing and he kindly mailed me to test from outside the demon server. his mail duly arrived and i thought my subscription to just-amiga had been cancelled. so i subscribed again and today received a mail from egroups dated 11/06/2K telling me that i was already a member and why did i want to subscribe again. the interesting thing is that all my just amiga mail has arrived today also. 11 messages 9-11th jun. i think some are still missing but they might still be in cyberspace awaiting re-entry so i'll hang on for a bit yet. has the mailing frequency changed since egroups took over or is there now a delay of 3-4 days? it used to be quite fast i suppose i'll find out when i fire this up the wire and i promise i'll only send it once this time 8) terribly sorry once again 8( ;EXCUSE END when i found out my mail had arrived all three times i thought i would be slaughtered on the list so i went on the web and found the list in all its technicolour glory, I was pleasantly surprised to find mostly support for the team effort and hope it inspired somebody to investigate further and join in. one mail (you know who you are....8) ) expressed the view that using a PC as part of the team effort defeated the object of an amiga team. the point is High Profile, the general population need to be reminded of things quite often or they forget quickly. as the Amiga developer systems are approaching launch(or they may already be out as I can't find recent reliable news lately) the name Amiga will be more readily recognised by non-Amiga users if they hear it more often. a lot of people buy a computer with no clear idea of what they want to do with it. I know people who bought the latest rocket powered PC and just play games, ok it's a valid use. but the impression people get is power = status. if the Amiga Team does well the name will be propagated throughout the PC press and amiga will sell more systems. As we all know software houses will only write software for a large user base so if the new amigas are to survive past the initial commissioned software releases they need to sell lots of units. then we may become more of a mainstream community rather than a enthusiastic cult which appears to dwindle daily. now i don't know exactly how many teams are competing but Team Amiga are team 200 so possibly more than 200 teams in it. and we are currently in 6th place. as i have already said , not bad for a dead platform 8). We as a community should support this effort and run this client on as many machines as we have access to. I am an Amiga user ( i have expressed my distaste at the term Amigan in a previous mail) but I also have a PII PC running Windoze 98, 266MHz of crippled power, the client is running on this machine also, its keys/sec rate is only slightly higher than my 160MHz PPC card and doesn't multitask very well at all, the simplest task will slow it down or stop it completely, the average keyrates are a lot slower than my miggy's . The Amiga is still my main computer, my Internet connection is via my miggy, all my printing is done with the miggy, all my graphics software is on the miggy. the PC is used for a scanner interface and fed into the miggy via PC2Amiga, also i have UAE set up on it and the RC5 client. first and foremost i am an Amiga user. should i not use this fast peripheral to aid my main computer in this team effort. i think i should and if i could work these bloody keys out with a pencil and paper i would be doing that too 8). If it helps the new Amigas to finally appear and survive I would show my a*se in woolies window. and after all the waiting wouldn't you ? 8) Apologies for the Third time 8) BTW its a Mac team in first place (that should be good for a few more members 8) ) my current stats are 114 Billion Total Keys processed after 4 days running (that answers somebody's question 8) ) Go for it... Stead ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. http://click.egroups.com/1/4935/3/_/490399/_/960856678/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jkanrav@netti.fi Tue Jun 13 16:39:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32053 invoked by uid 504); 13 Jun 2000 15:41:39 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 15:41:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4206-960910831-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 15:41:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12714 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 15:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 15:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pefletti.saunalahti.fi) (195.74.0.53) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 15:40:29 -0000 Received: from netti.fi (Bream@MCCCLXXXV.rdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.137.185]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA08461 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:40:24 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: J. Kannisto Boozing Organization From: Jani Kannisto MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:39:39 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? If I try use dos library's CreateProc() -routine, system crashes if started program tries print something. How can I provide output handle to the new process? Or do I need to use other libraryroutines, like RunCommand or CreateNewProc. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/960910802/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Tue Jun 13 21:17:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3908 invoked by uid 504); 13 Jun 2000 21:17:53 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:17:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4207-960931066-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 21:17:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7945 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 21:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:17:44 -0000 Received: from p2.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.2] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 131y4Z-0005pV-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:18:11 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Psyduck X-Zero-Hour: in 201 days, 1 hours, 42 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:17:35 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jani Kannisto wrote: > Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? Look at the autodocs for System() and SystemTagList(); I think they might provide the functionality you need. -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960931036/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jkanrav@netti.fi Tue Jun 13 22:54:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25001 invoked by uid 504); 14 Jun 2000 14:02:42 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 14:02:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4208-960991358-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2000 15:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11237 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 14:02:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jun 2000 14:02:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pyyhe.saunalahti.fi) (195.74.0.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 14:02:36 -0000 Received: from netti.fi (Bream@MCLXI.tdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.82.61]) by pyyhe.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA17378 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:15:36 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: J. Kannisto Boozing Organization From: Jani Kannisto MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:54:51 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stephen 13-Kes-00 Stephen Williams wrote: > Jani Kannisto wrote: >> Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? > > Look at the autodocs for System() and SystemTagList(); I think > they might provide the functionality you need. Unacceptable. These routines wait until the launched cli command returns. I want to send Ctrl-C to stop it. If I use Execute(), System() etc. routines I need to 'run' the command and then dig out the task name. I think this is too complex. 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This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of my hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have the stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. Any help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... Jeff Wheeler ------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/3/_/490399/_/960994707/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mike@stronvar.co.uk Wed Jun 14 16:24:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10306 invoked by uid 504); 14 Jun 2000 16:38:56 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 16:38:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4210-961000721-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2000 16:38:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4627 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jun 2000 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.173) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from modem-75.neodymium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.203] helo=stronvar.co.uk) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 132GB2-00044F-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:38:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.24] [192.168.0.24] by stronvar.co.uk (FTGate 2, 2, 2, 1); Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:24:00 +0100 X-Sender: mike@stronvar Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3942C911.16BAE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> References: <3942C911.16BAE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> To: just-amiga@egroups.com From: Mike Gompertz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:24:08 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] RC5-64 Amiga Team Effort (inc FOOD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > CS> On a last note, i'm jealous of all the americans who still get to drink > CS> Mountain Dew, i loved that drink but they stopped selling it here in > CS> the UK, along with Tab and Tab Clear... > >My Amiga has a tab key. 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Visit us at http://click.egroups.com/1/4358/3/_/490399/_/961000689/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jun 14 22:55:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 664 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 09:21:24 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 09:21:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4213-961060879-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 09:21:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16447 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 09:21:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 09:21:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 09:21:18 -0000 Received: from modem-36.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.36] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 132Vpr-0001aC-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:21:15 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Thu, 15 Jun 0 10:21:07 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <39487176.178CE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:55:07 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday June 14 2000, Jani Kannisto said to Stephen Williams: >>> Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? >> Look at the autodocs for System() and SystemTagList(); I think >> they might provide the functionality you need. JK> Unacceptable. These routines wait until the launched cli command JK> returns. I want to send Ctrl-C to stop it. If I use Execute(), System() JK> etc. routines I need to 'run' the command and then dig out the task You could use SYS_Asynch with System(). JK> name. I think this is too complex. I believe that If can manage to JK> start the other program as process, I can send Ctrl-C to it's JK> messageport. Not to its message port, to it's task structure.. If you signal the message port the program will expect a message - it's cleaner to use a plain signal. JK> I simply used LoadSeg() and then send the Seglist to RunCommand(). But JK> RunCommand doesn't do anything! Even if I set the registers to wrong RunCommand() won't do what you want, it runs the code on your process. JK> values on purpose, it won't even crash the machine. RunCommand probably JK> checks the containing of the registers, and won't do anything if JK> something is wrong. I'll put you out of your misery ;-) This is a quick translation to C of some of my E code, so excuse simple mistakes. The variables are typed as in the autodocs: if( taskcode=NewLoadSeg( "PROGDIR:PlugIn/Log/Log", null ) ) { if( ( smlog_task = CreateNewProc( NP_NAME, "SM-Log", NP_SEGLIST, taskcode, NP_INPUT, Input(), NP_OUTPUT, Output(), NP_CLOSEINPUT, FALSE, NP_CLOSEOUTPUT, FALSE, NP_STACKSIZE, 8192, NP_COPYVARS, FALSE ) == null ) ) Raise( "MEM" ); // fail } else PutStr("LoadSeg() failed on Log plugin\n"); -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! Conference in the whole family on the same call. Let the fights begin! 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This Yes, all the time. I think there's a working space in the program which is of fixed size. The programmer probably set it to support the biggest possible hard disk size he could imagine... Which is going to be less than you can get now :) Besides, Quarterback doesn't/can't support harddisks over 4GB anyway so its usefullness is limited. -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's? Or 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily? 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Keletsekis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:14:31 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, >> Jani Kannisto wrote: >>> Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? ....snip.. >I believe that If can manage to start the >other program as process, I can send Ctrl-C to it's messageport. The way to do this is to create a new process, send a message with all your data, have it run the command and reply to your message port. The code is as follows : // ****** make up a struct something like this.. struct LaunchMessage { struct Message rm_Node; // standard EXEC message structure // from hereon your struct can contain all your data... UBYTE commandline[256]; LONG result; // etc.. }; // ******* This is the function that launches the command, waits // ******* for the result and returns when finished. __saveds void launcher (void) { struct Process *myself = (struct Process *)FindTask(NULL); struct LaunchMessage *mess; // get the message that you prepared.. WaitPort(&myself->pr_MsgPort); mess = (struct LaunchMessage *)GetMsg(&myself->pr_MsgPort); // run the commandline mess->result = SystemTags (mess->commandline, SYS_Input, NULL, SYS_Output, (supply a con:), // there are many tags you can use here.. TAG_END); // if fail, call IoErr() etc.... Forbid(); ReplyMsg((struct Message *)mess); // process ends here } // ****** the above function can be called as follows... BOOL launchCommand (struct MsgPort *myport, char *comline) { struct LaunchMessage *mess; struct Process *child; // prepare your message... if (!(mess = AllocVec(sizeof(struct LaunchMessage), MEMF_CLEAR))) return (0); stccpy (mess->commandline, comline, 255); mess->rm_Node.mn_Length = sizeof(struct LaunchMessage); mess->rm_Node.mn_ReplyPort = myport; // launch the command.. child = CreateNewProcTags (NP_Entry, launcher, // add tags etc.. TAG_END); if (child == NULL) { FreeVec(mess); return (0); } // send the message to the new process... PutMsg(&child->pr_MsgPort, (struct Message *)mess); return (1); // when the command completes the message will be returned at // your port "myport" where you must free it. } Excuse any typing errors.. I cut/hacked/pasted from my code.. BTW to stop it with control-C is not simple, since it must be entered at the shell that launched the program which in this case does not exist.. You have to use Break and/or other methods. 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Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 14 Jun 2000 22:5:11 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14-Jun-00 08:58:49 jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Jeffrey Wheeler wrote: >Hi everyone, >I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error >message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". >This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of my >hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I >have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have the >stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different >versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same >effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. Any >help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... Have you tried DiskSalv? It was written by Dave Haynie, who knows a little about the Miggy. :) -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 14-Jun-0 22:04:06 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- 2 Kings 10:4 But they were terrified and said, "If two kings could not resist him, how can we?" AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Thu Jun 15 07:57:34 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24612 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 07:57:49 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 07:57:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4212-961055865-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 07:57:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13313 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 07:57:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 07:57:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ck.egroups.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 07:57:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.98] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 07:57:43 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: <8ia29e+glfm@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188.200T556T13252833wmaddock@icon-stl.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "Jeffrey Wheeler" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:57:34 -0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- In just-amiga@egroups.com, "William F. Maddock" wrote: > On 14-Jun-00 08:58:49 jeffrey.wheeler@c... Jeffrey Wheeler > wrote: > > >Hi everyone, > > >I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error > >message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". > >This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of my > >hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I > >have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have the > >stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different > >versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same > >effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. Any > >help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... > > Have you tried DiskSalv? It was written by Dave Haynie, who knows a > little about the Miggy. :) > > -- > William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon- stl.net/~wmaddock I have tried used disksalv before and have version 4, but I was using Quarterback Tools in this case because the partition I was testing has a few bad blocks, and I need to mark them as unusable, something which disksalv doesn't do. The file check was to identify any affected files, salvage them off the partition, and then mark the affected blocks as bad. Does anyone know of any other program that will mark bad blocks while there are still files on a volume, because I don't want to have to move all the files off to do a format?? (I know there are some formatting programs with this ability). Any help would be appreciated. Jeff Wheeler Up the Millers!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5536/3/_/490399/_/961055832/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jkanrav@netti.fi Thu Jun 15 20:01:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15153 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 19:03:07 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 19:03:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4216-961095785-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 19:03:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 12619 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 19:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 19:02:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pefletti.saunalahti.fi) (195.74.0.53) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 19:02:17 -0000 Received: from netti.fi (Bream@XIII.jdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.74.6.13]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA09162 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:02:13 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39487176.178CE@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: J. Kannisto Boozing Organization From: Jani Kannisto MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:01:24 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You could use SYS_Asynch with System(). Okay... > This is a quick translation to C of some of my E code, so excuse simple > mistakes. The variables are typed as in the autodocs: I'm coding with Asm. > if( taskcode=NewLoadSeg( "PROGDIR:PlugIn/Log/Log", null ) ) > { > if( ( smlog_task = CreateNewProc( NP_NAME, "SM-Log", NP_SEGLIST, > taskcode, NP_INPUT, Input(), NP_OUTPUT, Output(), NP_CLOSEINPUT, FALSE, > NP_CLOSEOUTPUT, FALSE, NP_STACKSIZE, 8192, NP_COPYVARS, FALSE ) == null ) ) I tried to convert this to Asm. Apparently I need the offsets for each NP_*, but they don't make sense in dos/dostags.h. It says: #define NP_Dummy (TAG_USER + 1000) #define NP_Seglist (NP_Dummy + 1) #define NP_FreeSegList (NP_Dummy + 2) and so on... These are all 1 longword pointers & variables? These are somekind of BCPL bulls*it or what? When playing with LoadSeg, I encountered to small code which converts the output of LoadSeg() to BCPL. oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo O O O == PGP key available on request == O O O O Jani Kannisto // jkanrav@netti.fi O O Polttimonkatu 14 // rai.rauma.fi O O 26100 Rauma \\ // O O +358 2 8228747 \X/ See the power of da Amiga: O O http://www.amiga.de O O O O I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours O O O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5534/3/_/490399/_/961095752/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jkanrav@netti.fi Thu Jun 15 20:10:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 15783 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 19:10:39 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 19:10:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4217-961096233-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 20:10:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 3699 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 19:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 19:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pefletti.saunalahti.fi) (195.74.0.53) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 19:10:27 -0000 Received: from netti.fi (Bream@XIII.jdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.74.6.13]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA09497 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:10:23 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000615012331.00ae7e70@mail.hol.gr> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: J. Kannisto Boozing Organization From: Jani Kannisto MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:10:22 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi D. 15-Kes-00 D. Keletsekis wrote: > Hi, > >>> Jani Kannisto wrote: >>>> Does anyone know, how to start other programs from own program? > ....snip.. >> I believe that If can manage to start the >> other program as process, I can send Ctrl-C to it's messageport. > > The way to do this is to create a new process, send a message with > all your data, have it run the command and reply to your message > port. The code is as follows : > > // ****** make up a struct something like this.. > struct LaunchMessage > { struct Message rm_Node; // standard EXEC message structure > // from hereon your struct can contain all your data... > UBYTE commandline[256]; > LONG result; > // etc.. > }; > > // ******* This is the function that launches the command, waits > // ******* for the result and returns when finished. > __saveds void launcher (void) > { > struct Process *myself = (struct Process *)FindTask(NULL); > struct LaunchMessage *mess; > > // get the message that you prepared.. > WaitPort(&myself->pr_MsgPort); > mess = (struct LaunchMessage *)GetMsg(&myself->pr_MsgPort); > > // run the commandline > mess->result = SystemTags (mess->commandline, > SYS_Input, NULL, SYS_Output, (supply a con:), > // there are many tags you can use here.. > TAG_END); > > // if fail, call IoErr() etc.... > > Forbid(); > ReplyMsg((struct Message *)mess); > // process ends here > } > > // ****** the above function can be called as follows... > BOOL launchCommand (struct MsgPort *myport, char *comline) > { > struct LaunchMessage *mess; > struct Process *child; > > // prepare your message... > if (!(mess = AllocVec(sizeof(struct LaunchMessage), MEMF_CLEAR))) > return (0); > > stccpy (mess->commandline, comline, 255); > mess->rm_Node.mn_Length = sizeof(struct LaunchMessage); > mess->rm_Node.mn_ReplyPort = myport; > > // launch the command.. > child = CreateNewProcTags (NP_Entry, launcher, > // add tags etc.. > TAG_END); > > if (child == NULL) > { FreeVec(mess); > return (0); > } > > // send the message to the new process... > PutMsg(&child->pr_MsgPort, (struct Message *)mess); > return (1); > > // when the command completes the message will be returned at > // your port "myport" where you must free it. > } > > Excuse any typing errors.. I cut/hacked/pasted from my code.. Thx for the help. This is however too complex for me (now). I'll try to get the CreateNewProc() work first... > BTW to stop it with control-C is not simple, since it must be entered > at the shell that launched the program which in this case does not > exist.. You have to use Break and/or other methods. Aha! Of course I can't break it that way. Break? The CLI command? That way I could simply start the command with dos.library's Execute() like this: "Run >NIL: " and later I could Execute() "TaskBreak ". 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Click to enter. http://click.egroups.com/1/4882/3/_/490399/_/961096199/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mattval@lcii.net Thu Jun 15 21:50:27 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23501 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 20:55:53 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 20:55:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4218-961102544-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 20:55:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1947 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 20:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 20:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.lakecountry.net) (208.161.201.10) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 20:55:42 -0000 Received: from lcii.net (mattval@mineola-ppp243.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.243]) by ch.lakecountry.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07938 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:55:40 -0500 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Matthew Hart & Valerie Nygren MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:50:27 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Installing Dataflyer SCSI+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm installing a DF SCSI+ in an A4000 Desktop. I can follow instructions very well so, I have it in the machine. I understand that no one will know what my jumper settings should be on all these drives, but my question is that in the trouble shooting section it says that if my LED drive light stays on and I'm sure that it is not verifing a drive that the polarity needs to be changed going to the LED. Then it say to reffer to the installing hardware section. I have found nothing on the "LED" in this section nor in the entire book. It is booting and working fine except for the 2nd ide device in the chain which is a cd-rom. I'm using AmiCDFS. A Syquest ext. 88m removeable cart. drive is working fine. Kind regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5534/3/_/490399/_/961102510/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mattval@lcii.net Thu Jun 15 21:54:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23795 invoked by uid 504); 15 Jun 2000 21:00:43 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 21:00:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4219-961102828-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2000 21:00:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 11275 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 20:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2000 20:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ch.lakecountry.net) (208.161.201.10) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2000 20:59:25 -0000 Received: from lcii.net (mattval@mineola-ppp243.lakecountry.net [208.161.201.243]) by ch.lakecountry.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA08647 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:59:23 -0500 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Matthew Hart & Valerie Nygren MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:54:11 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Installing Dataflyer SCSI+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, I forgot to say that ANY help will be respected and apreciated! On 15-Jun-00, I wrote: > Hello, > > I'm installing a DF SCSI+ in an A4000 Desktop. I can follow > instructions very well so, I have it in the machine. I understand that no > one will know what my jumper settings should be on all these drives, but > my question is that in the trouble shooting section it says that if my LED > drive light stays on and I'm sure that it is not verifing a drive that the > polarity needs to be changed going to the LED. Then it say to reffer to > the installing hardware section. I have found nothing on the "LED" in this > section nor in the entire book. It is booting and working fine except for > the 2nd ide device in the chain which is a cd-rom. I'm using AmiCDFS. A > Syquest ext. 88m removeable cart. drive is working fine. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5533/3/_/490399/_/961102794/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dck@hol.gr Thu Jun 15 22:37:18 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29527 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 10:41:03 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 10:41:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4225-961152060-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 10:41:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22240 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 10:40:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 10:40:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.hol.gr) (194.30.192.21) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 10:40:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 5309 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 10:40:43 -0000 Received: from vdp107.ath04.cas.hol.gr (HELO sdgfsd) (195.97.7.108) by mail.hol.gr with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 10:40:43 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.20000616011152.00aed720@mail.hol.gr> X-Sender: dck@mail.hol.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <961146231.4216@egroups.com> From: "D. Keletsekis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:37:18 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, >Aha! Of course I can't break it that way. Break? The CLI command? >That way I could simply start the command with dos.library's >Execute() like this: "Run >NIL: " and later I could >Execute() "TaskBreak ". This is simple, but I wanted >to make code that is able to break the program it started >by sending Ctrl-C to it (somehow). The way I do that (in C) is to find the task that I launched (by walking the task list) and signal it. I tried many other ways but couldn't get it to work - this works great.. The code I used is : BOOL breaktask (UBYTE *name) { LONG c, max; UBYTE *p; struct CommandLineInterface *cli; struct Process *proc; max = MaxCli(); // how many cli's are open? for (c=1; c<=max; ++c) { proc = FindCliProc(c); if (proc) { cli = (struct CommandLineInterface *)(BADDR(proc->pr_CLI)); if (cli) { // get process name p = (UBYTE *)(BADDR(cli->cli_CommandName)); // name starts on next byte ++p; if ((stricmp(name, p))==0) { // send a control-c - you can also OR ctrl-D etc.. Signal (&proc->pr_Task, SIGBREAKF_CTRL_C); return (1); } } } } return (0); } Note that the task name is the full command and path name (ie dh0:mypath/myprog) so you either do some parsing or provide the exact name. Rgds Dimitris http://users.hol.gr/~dck/gcmain.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. Remember the good 'ol days http://click.egroups.com/1/5531/3/_/490399/_/961152025/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jun 15 22:47:59 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23481 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 09:19:40 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 09:19:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4223-961147176-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 09:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19096 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 09:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 09:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.171) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 09:19:35 -0000 Received: from modem-4.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.78.4] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 132sHl-00007e-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:19:33 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Fri, 16 Jun 0 10:19:25 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3949BA38.17BE6@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:47:59 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, On Thursday June 15 2000, Jani Kannisto said to Neil Williams: >> This is a quick translation to C of some of my E code, so excuse simple >> mistakes. The variables are typed as in the autodocs: JK> I'm coding with Asm. Ah, all righty then. >> if( taskcode=NewLoadSeg( "PROGDIR:PlugIn/Log/Log", null ) ) >> if( ( smlog_task = CreateNewProc( NP_NAME, "SM-Log", NP_SEGLIST, >> taskcode, NP_INPUT, Input(), NP_OUTPUT, Output(), NP_CLOSEINPUT, FALSE, >> NP_CLOSEOUTPUT, FALSE, NP_STACKSIZE, 8192, NP_COPYVARS, FALSE ) == null >> ) ) JK> I tried to convert this to Asm. Apparently I need the offsets for each JK> NP_*, but they don't make sense in dos/dostags.h. It says: JK> #define NP_Dummy (TAG_USER + 1000) These are just tag values you pass through, not offsets. A tag is just a marker which says 'after me, this data follows.' So for each tag, also pass one data item - all longwords. JK> These are all 1 longword pointers & variables? These are somekind of JK> BCPL bulls*it or what? When playing with LoadSeg, I encountered to JK> small code which converts the output of LoadSeg() to BCPL. This isn't BCPL - it's a TagList: Tags and Tag Data. Don't use the BCPL functions like LoadSeg() unless you're running OS 1.3, use NewLoadSeg() etc. etc. In assembler, you create a tag list (in this example, statically) like this: tags dc.l NP_NAME, "SM-Log" dc.l NP_SEGLIST, dc.l TAG_END ; or 0 You then pass a pointer to 'tags' in the correct register. TagLists are used because they are extensible - you can add four million million parameters to a function over several versions, and not introduce any incompatibilities. You might want to look on AmiNet for example assembler programs... If you want more clarification, just ask. -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for Airfare deals? Visit Expedia.com for limited time offers http://click.egroups.com/1/5205/3/_/490399/_/961147141/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From martin@madscientist.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 16 00:30:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 5735 invoked by uid 504); 17 Jun 2000 14:02:01 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:02:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4228-961250517-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2000 14:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 26122 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 14:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Jun 2000 14:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:01:54 -0000 Received: from madscientist.demon.co.uk ([193.237.50.20]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 133JAW-0004CS-0K for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:01:52 +0000 Organization: Private User Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ia29e+glfm@eGroups.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/Amiga NC 1.4.4 [NC2-#000002AB] - http://www.vapor.com/ From: "Martin Nicholson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 16 Jun 2000 01:30:56 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:57:34 -0000, Jeffrey Wheeler wrote, > affected blocks as bad. Does anyone know of any other program that > will mark bad blocks while there are still files on a volume, because > I don't want to have to move all the files off to do a format?? (I > know there are some formatting programs with this ability). Any help > would be appreciated. Yeah, AmibackTools. I used to use it all the time when I had FFS formatted partitions, and found it a lot less buggy than QBTools. It will create a file that will be written to the bad blocks and sit on the partition. If you then just set the hide flag in the protection flags, you can happily ignore it; unless you de-fragment the drive, when you'll need to re-map the blocks again. 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Get your ticket to the future today! http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/3/_/490399/_/961250479/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 16 03:32:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10337 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 04:36:36 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 04:36:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4221-961130192-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 04:36:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23703 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 04:36:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 04:36:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail02.iprimus.com.au) (203.134.65.91) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 04:36:31 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([203.134.101.34]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:36:28 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:32:54 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Problems with dos library Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16-Jun-00, Jani Kannisto wrote: -snip- > These are all 1 longword pointers & variables? > These are somekind of BCPL bulls*it or what? > When playing with LoadSeg, I encountered to small code > which converts the output of LoadSeg() to BCPL. > The output from LoadSeg() is a BPTR.... A BPTR is just a LONG dressed up in drag, but the value it contains is a byte address / 4 or if you prefer, the longword address.... If you mean to convert the BPTR(bcpl pointer) to an APTR(byte pointer), just do: pointer <<= 2; ( multiply x4 ) Regards -- _________________________________________ Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, Spectrum Gfx Card. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5536/3/_/490399/_/961130158/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Fri Jun 16 04:48:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9267 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 04:02:31 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 04:02:31 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4220-961128147-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 04:02:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 14665 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 04:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 04:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 04:02:26 -0000 Received: from icon-41.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-41.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.41]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA17140 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:02:51 -0500 (CDT) To: "Jeffrey Wheeler" In-Reply-To: <8ia29e+glfm@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <2144.201T437T13682442wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 15 Jun 2000 22:48:8 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 15-Jun-00 01:57:34 jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Jeffrey Wheeler wrote: >--- In just-amiga@egroups.com, "William F. Maddock" >wrote: >> On 14-Jun-00 08:58:49 jeffrey.wheeler@c... Jeffrey Wheeler >> wrote: >> >> >Hi everyone, >> >> >I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error >> >message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". >> >This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of >my >> >hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I >> >have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have >the >> >stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different >> >versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same >> >effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. >Any >> >help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... >> >> Have you tried DiskSalv? It was written by Dave Haynie, who knows a >> little about the Miggy. :) >I have tried used disksalv before and have version 4, but I was using >Quarterback Tools in this case because the partition I was testing >has a few bad blocks, and I need to mark them as unusable, something >which disksalv doesn't do. The file check was to identify any >affected files, salvage them off the partition, and then mark the >affected blocks as bad. Does anyone know of any other program that >will mark bad blocks while there are still files on a volume, because >I don't want to have to move all the files off to do a format?? (I >know there are some formatting programs with this ability). Any help >would be appreciated. I'm not sure if it requires a format to do it, but HDToolbox can mark bad blocks. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 15-Jun-0 22:46:36 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Jeremiah 51:1 This is what the LORD says: "See, I will stir up the spirit of a destroyer against Babylon and the people of Leb Kamai. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ beMANY! has a new way to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on saving more each month: Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/3821/3/_/490399/_/961128113/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ac998@lafn.org Fri Jun 16 06:57:38 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14207 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 06:39:00 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 06:39:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4222-961137535-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 07:39:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20529 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 06:38:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 06:38:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zoon.lafn.org) (206.117.18.9) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 06:38:54 -0000 Received: from lafn.org (zoom [206.117.18.8]) by zoon.lafn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA20147 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac998@lafn.org) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8ia29e+glfm@eGroups.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mike Leavitt MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:57:38 -0800 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jeffrey On 14-Jun-00, you wrote: > --- In just-amiga@egroups.com, "William F. Maddock" =20 > wrote: >> On 14-Jun-00 08:58:49 jeffrey.wheeler@c... Jeffrey Wheeler >> wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi everyone, >>=20 >>> I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error >>> message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". >>> This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of=20 > my >>> hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I >>> have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have=20 > the >>> stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different >>> versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same >>> effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error.=20=20 > Any >>> help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... >>=20 >> Have you tried DiskSalv? It was written by Dave Haynie, who knows a >> little about the Miggy. :) >>=20 >> -- >> William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon- > stl.net/~wmaddock >=20 > I have tried used disksalv before and have version 4, but I was using=20 > Quarterback Tools in this case because the partition I was testing=20 > has a few bad blocks, and I need to mark them as unusable, something=20 > which disksalv doesn't do. The file check was to identify any=20 > affected files, salvage them off the partition, and then mark the=20 > affected blocks as bad. Does anyone know of any other program that=20 > will mark bad blocks while there are still files on a volume, because=20 > I don't want to have to move all the files off to do a format?? (I=20 > know there are some formatting programs with this ability). Any help=20 > would be appreciated. >=20 > Jeff Wheeler >=20 > Up the Millers!!! I haven't tried it, but it did fix my wife's HD when DiskSalve wouldn't touch it, and that is AmiBack tools in repair mode -- a friend recommended it. Of course, like both Quarterback and DiskSalve, it will only work on partitions 2gigs or less and HD's formated to 4gigs or less. You can do it with HDToolbox too (yuck). Regards --=20 Mike Leavitt ac998@lafn.org + team Amiga + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How about a flat, no-fee long distance rate of 6.7=A2 per min. -=20 or less? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you rates which=20 fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/3820/3/_/490399/_/961137501/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Fri Jun 16 09:34:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24619 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 09:35:01 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 09:35:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4224-961148099-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 09:35:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 4905 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 09:34:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 09:34:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 09:34:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.95] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 09:34:58 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: <8icsbu+6u4i@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "Jeffrey Wheeler" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:34:54 -0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Just like to thank everbody who responded to my query. I will give Amiback Tools a go, and try hdtoolbox as a last resort (I thought you had to know the block numbers already though with this, and if so, how do you find them??):) Many thanks again, keep the flag flying ;) Jeff Wheeler ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Savings + service + convenience = beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/4116/3/_/490399/_/961148064/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Sat Jun 17 00:30:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28269 invoked by uid 504); 16 Jun 2000 23:42:42 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 23:42:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4226-961198958-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2000 00:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8895 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 23:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 23:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 23:42:37 -0000 Received: from icon-33.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-33.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.33]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05375 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:42:56 -0500 (CDT) To: "Jeffrey Wheeler" In-Reply-To: <8icsbu+6u4i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <812.202T87T11101884wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 16 Jun 2000 18:30:1 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16-Jun-00 03:34:54 jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Jeffrey Wheeler wrote: >Hi, >Just like to thank everbody who responded to my query. I will give >Amiback Tools a go, and try hdtoolbox as a last resort (I thought you >had to know the block numbers already though with this, and if so, >how do you find them??):) There is a function in HDToolBox called *Verify Data on Drive* that will update the badblocks list for you. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 16-Jun-0 18:10:37 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- 1 Samuel 22:12 Saul said, "Listen now, son of Ahitub." "Yes, my lord," he answered. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/3/_/490399/_/961198922/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@torfree.net Sat Jun 17 13:59:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 5499 invoked by uid 504); 17 Jun 2000 13:59:29 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 13:59:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4227-961250365-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2000 13:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20667 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 13:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Jun 2000 13:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 13:59:15 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1529 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <8i86j9+2hg1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: Pat Kushko From: Pat Kushko MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jeffrey Wheeler wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error > message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". > This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of my > hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I > have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have the > stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different > versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same > effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. Any > help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... > > > Jeff Wheeler Hi Jeff, I'll bet your memory is mostly used up or otherwise fragmented. Try booting without a startup-sequence (holding both mouse buttons down on boot usually does it or a CNTL-D in the dos shell) and then run QBtools from a well stacked shell and see if that helps. There might also be a way of limiting QBtools buffer, but I'm not sure. DiskSalv and ABtools are alternatives. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- move.to/pk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. 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Get your ticket to the future today! http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/3/_/490399/_/961250328/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@torfree.net Sat Jun 17 14:08:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6285 invoked by uid 504); 17 Jun 2000 14:08:44 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:08:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4229-961250920-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2000 14:08:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10207 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2000 14:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Jun 2000 14:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Jun 2000 14:08:39 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1643 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:08:39 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <1188.200T556T13252833wmaddock@icon-stl.net> Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: Pat Kushko From: Pat Kushko MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Quarterback Tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14 Jun 2000, William F. Maddock wrote: > On 14-Jun-00 08:58:49 jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Jeffrey Wheeler > wrote: > > >Hi everyone, > > >I was wondering if anyone out there has ever come across an error > >message in Quarterback Tools: "Unable to get disk cache buffer". > >This occurs when I am doing a file check on a 1.1 gig partition of my > >hard drive, and always occurs at the same place (53% complete). I > >have 18 meg installed in my A4000 (2 meg chip, 16 fast), and have the > >stack set at 60000, but to no avail. I have even tried 2 different > >versions of the program (2.0 and 2.02), but this still has the same > >effect, stopping in exactly the same place with the same error. Any > >help would be appreciated, thanking in advance... > > Have you tried DiskSalv? It was written by Dave Haynie, who knows a > little about the Miggy. :) On thinking about this message for a few more minutes and because it's stopping at 'exactly the same place'. I'll bet a serious error is causing the program to overrun the buffer at that point (probably a looping affair) and it is possible that 'other' recovery programs might handle that error in a different way. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- move.to/pk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/3/_/490399/_/961250883/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drstrange@jps.net Sun Jun 18 06:10:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10172 invoked by uid 504); 18 Jun 2000 06:14:37 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 06:14:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4230-961308871-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2000 06:14:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15383 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 06:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Jun 2000 06:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail012.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Jun 2000 06:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10262 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2000 06:14:29 -0000 Received: from 209-239-214-199.lax.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([209.239.214.199]) (envelope-sender ) by mail012.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Jun 2000 06:14:29 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mark Tierno From: Mark Tierno MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:10:22 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Columnists needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, We at AIO are always looking to improve things, so in that effort I have an announcement/request. For a few months I've been trying to find someone willing/able to do a good programming column without success. So, I'm sending out this cattle-call to anyone that would like to do a monthly column on programming tips, basics, advanced tips, etc, for either C/C++ or ARexx. If you think you have the knowledge and are willing to commit to a monthly column, then please email me at- columns@aio.co.uk You'll be paid nothing more then the gratitude of the Amiga Community and readers of AIO. -Mark Tierno AIO Editor -- What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/3/_/490399/_/961308833/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From santulov@riteh.hr Mon Jun 19 22:25:00 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8990 invoked by uid 504); 19 Jun 2000 21:26:53 -0000 Received: from hp.egroups.com (208.50.144.93) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 21:26:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4231-961450009-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2000 21:26:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25136 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 21:26:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Jun 2000 21:26:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jagor.srce.hr) (161.53.2.130) by mta3 with SMTP; 19 Jun 2000 21:26:36 -0000 Received: from srce.hr (asy914.jmu.carnet.hr [193.198.135.74]) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA23393 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:26:14 +0200 (MET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://croatia.ourfamily.com/cgi-bin/framed/2532/Pics/Members/All/Web/Sony19.jpg" X-eGroups-From: Sanjin Antulov From: Sanjin Antulov MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:25:00 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Code name Hell Squad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We have some news we would like to share. 1. 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Regards, Sanjin Digital Dreams Entertainment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find long lost high school friends: http://click.egroups.com/1/5535/3/_/490399/_/961449967/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From steve.wroldsen@halton-borough.gov.uk Wed Jun 21 13:49:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13391 invoked by uid 504); 21 Jun 2000 13:47:41 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 13:47:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4232-961595256-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2000 13:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20779 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 13:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Jun 2000 13:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mimesweeper.halton-borough.gov.uk) (193.133.202.221) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 13:47:35 -0000 Received: from ntmxs1.halton-borough.gov.uk (unverified) by mimesweeper.halton-borough.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:45:43 +0100 Received: by NTMXS1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:49:54 +0100 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@egroups.com, afb@egroups.com X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) From: "Wroldsen, Steve - Highways" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:49:53 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] PAL to NTSC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am after software to switch screen modes between PAL and NTSC for games such as F1GP. I have had a look on Aminet but cannot find anything suitable. I currently use X-Panel to switch modes but instead of using this I want this to happen automatically. Any suggestions?? And something to switch back again... Cheers Steve Wroldsen Halton Borough Council Highways Tel: (0151) 424 2061 -- Disclaimer * This e-mail is sent in confidence for the addressee only and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipients although the Council may copy it to any person whom it judges has a proper interest in receiving a copy of the message. 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Many of them won't work unless I use the 'original chip' and 'disable CPU cache' setting on the early start-up menu. Other just won't work at all. I have recently installed OS3.5 and don't know whether this is the cause. I believe there is software available to downgrade (or is it degrade) my operating system. Is this true? Can anyone help me? Regards Steve Wroldsen Halton Borough Council Highways Tel: (0151) 424 2061 -- Disclaimer * This e-mail is sent in confidence for the addressee only and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipients although the Council may copy it to any person whom it judges has a proper interest in receiving a copy of the message. 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The picture is of a human face made up of various animals, whales, chimps, fish etc. It's a great picture but I cannot remember where it came from. Can anyone help? -- Steve Wroldsen Halton Borough Council Highways Tel: (0151) 424 2061 Disclaimer * This e-mail is sent in confidence for the addressee only and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipients although the Council may copy it to any person whom it judges has a proper interest in receiving a copy of the message. Unauthorised recipients must preserve this confidentiality and should please advise the sender immediately and return without taking a copy. * If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any use, disclosure, copying, distribution of this e-mail or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited. * We have taken all reasonable precautions to ensure that no viruses are transmitted from Halton Borough Council to any third party. 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Many of them won't work unless I use the 'original chip' and 'disable > CPU cache' setting on the early start-up menu. Other just won't work at all. > I have recently installed OS3.5 and don't know whether this is the cause. I > believe there is software available to downgrade (or is it degrade) my > operating system. Is this true? Can anyone help me? Your best bet to get old games working is to find / download from aminet a harddrive installer for them. This usually includes a fix for the game to get it working on modern amigas. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hitler and Napolean each had only one testical. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961612615/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed Jun 21 19:43:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7855 invoked by uid 504); 21 Jun 2000 18:44:06 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (207.138.41.166) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:44:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4237-961613036-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2000 18:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13740 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 18:43:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Jun 2000 18:43:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:43:49 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax06-125.enterprise.net [212.161.115.125]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24452 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:43:42 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:43:36 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PAL to NTSC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > I am after software to switch screen modes between PAL and NTSC for games > such as F1GP. I have had a look on Aminet but cannot find anything suitable. > I currently use X-Panel to switch modes but instead of using this I want > this to happen automatically. Any suggestions?? > > And something to switch back again... I think there is a program (killAGA or sommin similar) that can be set up to swich the screenmode to pal/ntsc when you run a game. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The state-sponsored Icelandic Board of Tourism was once responsible for answering letters to Santa that made it to Iceland. That is, until the funds dried up in 1982 and the practice was stopped. In 1995, spending cuts caused a similar cut in the same service in Greenland. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961613036/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rom@digicolor.net Wed Jun 21 19:56:25 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13677 invoked by uid 504); 21 Jun 2000 19:56:10 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:56:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4238-961617363-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2000 20:56:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24301 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 19:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Jun 2000 19:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns.digicolor.net) (194.185.147.131) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 19:55:58 -0000 Received: from petra ([194.185.147.203]) by dns.digicolor.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04897 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:55:53 +0200 Message-ID: <003701bfdbba$c884ce50$77d2fea9@petra> To: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 From: "Roberto Monticelli" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:56:25 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Picture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wroldsen, Steve - Highways" To: "Amiga Format Bulletin (E-mail)" ; "Amiga Madness (E-mail)" ; "Just Amiga (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:54 PM Subject: [just-amiga] Picture > I found a picture on one of my Amiga CD ROMs. I have searched them all > (Approx. 50 of them) for a picture that I cannot seem to find. The picture > is of a human face made up of various animals, whales, chimps, fish etc. > > It's a great picture but I cannot remember where it came from. > > Can anyone help? > > -- > Steve Wroldsen > Halton Borough Council > Highways > Tel: (0151) 424 2061 I don't remember the picture you noted, but from the description you give of it, I suppose it is by Arcimboldo an Italian reinassance painter. bye, RoM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961617363/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Wed Jun 21 23:53:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3839 invoked by uid 504); 21 Jun 2000 18:03:14 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:03:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4235-961610585-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2000 18:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15053 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2000 18:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Jun 2000 18:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by mta3 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2000 18:02:57 -0000 Received: from modem-95.promethium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.50.95] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 134opy-0005y2-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:02:54 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:53:05 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Picture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Steve - Highways On 21-Jun-00, you wrote: > I found a picture on one of my Amiga CD ROMs. I have searched them all > (Approx. 50 of them) for a picture that I cannot seem to find. The picture > is of a human face made up of various animals, whales, chimps, fish etc. > > It's a great picture but I cannot remember where it came from. Picture is "Beyond nature" it is on the Aminet CD (set 3 ...July 96) If you still can't find it mail me off list and i'll send you a copy :) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961610585/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From iscandar2@chatter.com Thu Jun 22 01:56:25 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4049 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 01:03:57 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 01:03:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4239-961635834-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 01:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15984 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 01:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 01:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.chatter.com) (207.43.172.39) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 01:02:58 -0000 Received: from port2.appli.com (207.43.172.42) by mail.chatter.com (FirstClass Mail Server v5.50) with SMTP (Sender: iscandar2@chatter.com) transient id 2195; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:00:08 -0500 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: The Iscandar Project From: Derek Wakefield MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:56:25 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] 2.1 gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm getting a 2.1 gig Seagate HDD to replace my now dead internal 40meg HDD in my 1200. I've never owned a HDD this large before and would appreciate any advise/tips on how to partition the drive. . The gent who I'm buying it from will be partitioning the drive for me. The question is, what's a good size for the various partitions on a drive this large. One of my concerns is I have an external Connor 540 meg HDD in a Dataflyer XDS. This is spilt up into two 150meg (DH2 & DH3) partitions and one 220meg (PCC) partition. At the moment, I'm booting off of DH2 (by holding down both mouse buttons and having given that drive a -1 priority). As this drive is my primary data drive, I don't want to lose access to it when I install the new drive. The dead 40meg was split into 2 20meg partitions (DH0 & DH1). I've never had to install a new drive in my 1200, so I'm a bit unsure about what to expect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Derek (/\)akefield iscandar2@chatter.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961635835/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From blitzwing@goldweb.com.au Thu Jun 22 07:03:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20074 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 07:07:43 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 07:07:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4240-961657654-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 07:07:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19423 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 07:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 07:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aramis.goldweb.com.au) (203.37.36.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 07:06:59 -0000 Received: from goldweb.com.au (arappp40.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.166]) by aramis.goldweb.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id C52242B83A for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:13:35 +1000 (EST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Blitzwing MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:03:09 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Derek you blurted something about On 22-Jun-00, you wrote: > I'm getting a 2.1 gig Seagate HDD to replace my now dead internal > 40meg HDD in my 1200. I've never owned a HDD this large before and > would appreciate any advise/tips on how to partition the drive. . > speaking from too much hd experience, I'd seriously recommend 2 things, firstly either 2 x 500 meg partitions and a 1 gig, or 3 partitions of equal size 700 meg roughly... you could split in into 2 even or uneven parts, but I wouldn't unless you can back it all up, I've found when I get a partition go haywire I can simply back up most of the data on a partition to another partition then reformat the sutffed partition, copy it all back, and away you go again... either way I'd use PFS on it... Regards -- I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961657655/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From blitzwing@goldweb.com.au Thu Jun 22 07:05:28 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20118 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 07:09:37 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 07:09:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4241-961657769-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 08:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2214 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 07:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 07:09:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aramis.goldweb.com.au) (203.37.36.2) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 07:09:27 -0000 Received: from goldweb.com.au (arappp40.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.166]) by aramis.goldweb.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F8E82B83A for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:15:58 +1000 (EST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Blitzwing MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:05:28 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD (forgot something in last post) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Derek you blurted something about On 22-Jun-00, you wrote: > > I've never had to install a new drive in my 1200, so I'm a bit unsure > about what to expect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > the only other thing I forgot to mention, was if it's a 3.5" drive and the 1200 isn't a tower, and has an accelerator (especially 040) you may incur power and or heat problems... heat - oh well, not really that bad, just get's real warm power - use an A500 power supply, they have the perfect amount of guts to runs a decked out 1200 I've got lots of stuff hanging off mine... Regards Blitzwing -- A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961657769/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From armin.huebner@t-online.de Thu Jun 22 11:09:30 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3767 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 11:11:56 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 11:11:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4242-961672304-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 12:11:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12032 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 11:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 11:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout02.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.17) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 11:11:43 -0000 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1354tX-00082U-04; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:11:39 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (340055078965-0001@[62.155.249.92]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1354tK-0yMEa0C; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:11:26 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: [HueBiSoft] X-Sender: 340055078965-0001@t-dialin.net X-eGroups-From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin Huebner) From: armin.huebner@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:09:30 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Derek. You wrote at 22-Jun-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] 2.1 gig HDD*": B>> I'm getting a 2.1 gig Seagate HDD to replace my now dead internal B>> 40meg HDD in my 1200. I've never owned a HDD this large before and B>> would appreciate any advise/tips on how to partition the drive. . One important thing is to exchange your power supply, because the original is not sufficient for new harddrives! Either you will get read/write errors or the drive won't even begin to start. For partitioning I recommend a 100 MB 'sys' partition only reserved for your operating system. Don't mess non OS related stuff with this partition, so you easily can upgrade to a newer OS. The rest of your HD may be partitioned as you like, but IMHO it is better to have some small partitions (e.g. named 'work', 'internet', 'docs', and so on) than one large. Small partitions ar easier to backup, and if the partition will be damaged, only these datas are lost. Furthermore, you should reserve one partition to backup another partition to the hd itself. This must be larger then the largest of the other partitions, of course. Browser caches will be the first which may damage a whole partition. So, you are on the secure side, if you have an own 'cache' partition for these purposes and for other temporary data (50-100MB). It is a good idea to store all data delivered from programs like Finalwriter, SBase, Yam to an own 'data' partition. If you are using FFS, it is strongly recommended to have small partitions, otherwise you will get an endless validating time, if an error occurs when writing to HD. Regards, Armin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961672304/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From steve.wroldsen@halton-borough.gov.uk Thu Jun 22 11:23:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4494 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 11:21:01 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 11:21:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4243-961672858-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 11:20:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25431 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 11:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 11:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mimesweeper.halton-borough.gov.uk) (193.133.202.221) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 11:20:57 -0000 Received: from ntmxs1.halton-borough.gov.uk (unverified) by mimesweeper.halton-borough.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:19:03 +0100 Received: by NTMXS1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:23:15 +0100 Message-Id: To: "Amiga Format Bulletin (E-mail)" , "Amiga Madness (E-mail)" , "Just Amiga (E-mail)" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) From: "Wroldsen, Steve - Highways" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:23:07 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] A1200 Power Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before I start please don't complain about the disclaimer. I am working to get rid of it. If it annoys you that much please don't respond (unless you can help of course), it will only wind you up even more. I want to tower my Amiga. I am considering purchasing an A1200 Power Tower from, yes, Power Computing, England! Does anyone out there have any reasons not to buy the power tower and if so can they recommend something else? Cheers for now Steve Wroldsen -- Disclaimer * This e-mail is sent in confidence for the addressee only and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipients although the Council may copy it to any person whom it judges has a proper interest in receiving a copy of the message. 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I've never owned a HDD this large before and >>> would appreciate any advise/tips on how to partition the drive. . > > One important thing is to exchange your power supply, because the > original is not sufficient for new harddrives! > Either you will get read/write errors or the drive won't even begin > to start. > point, not true in fact, I have had a 2.5" drive, a 3.5" drive an external floppy and an 030 on a standard 1200 power supply... having said that, I have run a cd rom, a 3.5" hd, 060, external floppy, and a scsi card as wel of the 500 power supply... what is the new 2.1 gig 2.5" or 3.5" ? Regards Blitzwing -- Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961678586/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From paul@thebeach.clara.co.uk Thu Jun 22 13:37:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31018 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 17:02:44 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:02:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4246-961693355-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 17:02:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18918 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:02:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 17:02:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oracle.clara.net) (195.8.69.94) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:02:32 -0000 Received: from [195.8.90.122] (helo=base) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 135AMy-000Osp-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:02:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bfdc6b$38ec87e0$7a5a08c3@base> To: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 From: "Paul Hilder" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:37:57 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A1200 Power Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wroldsen, Steve - Highways" To: "Amiga Format Bulletin (E-mail)" ; "Amiga Madness (E-mail)" ; "Just Amiga (E-mail)" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: [just-amiga] A1200 Power Tower > Before I start please don't complain about the disclaimer. I am working to > get rid of it. If it annoys you that much please don't respond (unless you > can help of course), it will only wind you up even more. > > I want to tower my Amiga. I am considering purchasing an A1200 Power Tower > from, yes, Power Computing, England! > Does anyone out there have any reasons not to buy the power tower and if so > can they recommend something else? I've been using mine for a while now and haven't found anything majorly wrong with the design. BFN, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961693356/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From armin.huebner@t-online.de Thu Jun 22 13:41:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16094 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 13:58:33 -0000 Received: from jj.egroups.com (208.50.144.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 13:58:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4245-961682287-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 13:58:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21987 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 13:57:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 13:57:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout04.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.18) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 13:57:59 -0000 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1357UI-0007vi-03; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:57:46 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (340055078965-0001@[193.159.114.27]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1357U7-1C5IwqC; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:57:35 +0200 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: [HueBiSoft] X-Sender: 340055078965-0001@t-dialin.net X-eGroups-From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin Huebner) From: armin.huebner@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:41:31 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Blitzwing. You wrote at 22-Jun-00 concerning "*[just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD*": B>> One important thing is to exchange your power supply, because the B>> original is not sufficient for new harddrives! Either you will get B>> read/write errors or the drive won't even begin to start. B> point, not true in fact, I have had a 2.5" drive, a 3.5" drive an B> external floppy and an 030 on a standard 1200 power supply... Lucky man! However, I wouldn't rely on that, and I'm speaking of my own experiences. Regards, Armin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/4/_/490399/_/961682287/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mcfarlnd@centurytel.net Thu Jun 22 16:38:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12855 invoked by uid 504); 23 Jun 2000 05:45:08 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 05:45:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4248-961739104-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2000 05:45:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15807 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 05:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Jun 2000 05:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nw.centurytel.net) (209.206.160.254) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 05:45:03 -0000 Received: from centurytel.net (root@ppp103.gh.centurytel.net [209.206.171.134]) by mail.nw.centurytel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA08491 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:45:01 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Jim & Penny McFarland MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:38:10 +0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, *** Begin of forwarded message *** Date: 20-Nov-00 10:27:36 From: Mike Pearson Subject: Re: Scanning --- Forwarded message follows --- 2 dumb questions but I'm on brain lock. 1.) I can't get my 4.2g harddrive to use the full space nor to except a partition larger than 1 G. I've done it before but just forgot how to do it and the os3.5 site suggestion doesn't work and I forgot the help page I used originally. 2.) Can you use a zip disk to transfer a file between a PC and an Amiga, I thought I've done that before also, but have forgotten how. Suggestions, Please. Thanks, Mike Pearson ----- Original Message ----- If I recall right, the answer to both questions is yes, but I have had no need to personally do either. Anyone here have first hand experience on the the "hows" ? Thanks very much. Jim McFarland mcfarlnd@centurytel.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. http://click.egroups.com/1/5294/4/_/490399/_/961739104/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Jun 22 18:57:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3708 invoked by uid 504); 22 Jun 2000 17:57:40 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:57:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4247-961696657-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 17:57:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 17:57:33 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-086.enterprise.net [212.161.113.86]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20181 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:57:12 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:57:10 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2.1 gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > I'm getting a 2.1 gig Seagate HDD to replace my now dead internal > 40meg HDD in my 1200. I've never owned a HDD this large before and > would appreciate any advise/tips on how to partition the drive. . > > The gent who I'm buying it from will be partitioning the drive for me. > The question is, what's a good size for the various partitions on a > drive this large. Well, when I had a 2.1 gig harddrive, I gave 100 megs to Workbench, 1.5 gigs to a partition called Work: Where I put all my stuff and gave my Mac Emulator the last 500 megs. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - 640k is probably all the memory anyone will ever need. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961696657/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mattias.andersson@home.se Fri Jun 23 08:49:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25049 invoked by uid 504); 23 Jun 2000 09:00:56 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 09:00:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4249-961750847-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2000 09:00:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4790 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2000 08:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Jun 2000 08:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 08:45:06 -0000 Received: from imannen (users.sala.se [193.180.253.2]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA24743 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:44:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000d01bfdcf0$058383b0$0200000a@imannen> To: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 From: "Mattias Andersson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:49:32 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the answer to question no 2 is yes. if you have a zip drive that uses the parallel port that is. any other connections i don't know but SCSI should also work and perhaps IDE too. on aminet there is a description on how to make a converter for your parallel zip drive. now, this is for amiga os 3.0-3.1. on 3.5 it might be easier, i don't know. anyway, you have to make a converter in that case. i've made one myself with great success. here's the file. http://ftp.sunet.se/~aminet/dirs/aminet/hard/hack/ppazip.lha Regards, Mattias ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Penny McFarland" To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help > Hello all, > > *** Begin of forwarded message *** > > Date: 20-Nov-00 10:27:36 > From: Mike Pearson > Subject: Re: Scanning > > --- Forwarded message follows --- > > > 2 dumb questions but I'm on brain lock. > 1.) I can't get my 4.2g harddrive to use the full space nor to except a > partition larger than 1 G. I've done it before but just forgot how to do it > and the os3.5 site suggestion doesn't work and I forgot the help page I used > originally. > 2.) Can you use a zip disk to transfer a file between a PC and an Amiga, I > thought I've done that before also, but have forgotten how. > Suggestions, Please. > Thanks, > Mike Pearson > > ----- Original Message ----- > > If I recall right, the answer to both questions is yes, but I have had no > need to personally do either. Anyone here have first hand experience on the > the "hows" ? Thanks very much. > > Jim McFarland > mcfarlnd@centurytel.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Take 20 friends to Vegas on New Year's courtesy of Expedia.com. > Win the airfare, a suite at Bellagio and $15,000. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click for a chance to win. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5294/4/_/490399/_/961739104/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961750848/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Sun Jun 25 21:30:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27064 invoked by uid 504); 25 Jun 2000 21:32:28 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 21:32:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4250-961968740-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2000 21:32:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7747 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 21:32:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2000 21:32:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 21:32:19 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.198] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 136K0n-0003h7-00 for Just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:32:17 +0100 To: Just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: Ralph From: Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:30:22 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have just typed Frogger.PPC VIDEOCD VCDDEVICE blizzppc.device VCDUNIT 6 ( to try to get frogger to read a data track on a music cd ) and got the reply bad number :-( any sugestions ?? Bye -- Ralph ralph@twiss.org http://www.twiss.org Mouse , An standard way to generate computer errors --anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. Fill out the form for more info and you will receive a 10% discount on Windows 2000 or Linux training and the chance to win free training. http://click.egroups.com/1/5933/4/_/490399/_/961968740/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Sun Jun 25 22:27:59 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30751 invoked by uid 504); 25 Jun 2000 22:30:08 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:30:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4253-961972202-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2000 22:30:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 2676 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 22:30:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2000 22:30:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:30:01 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.220] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 136KuY-0006vY-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:29:55 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-eGroups-From: Ralph From: Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:27:59 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrew On 25-Jun-00, you wrote: > Hi Everybody, > >> I have just typed Frogger.PPC VIDEOCD VCDDEVICE blizzppc.device >> VCDUNIT 6 >> >> ( to try to get frogger to read a data track on a music cd ) >> >> and got the reply bad number >> >> :-( >> >> any sugestions ?? > > on a music CD? Doesn't Frogger only play video cds? (or did you mean > video cd? :) I am trying to play the Video clip that is often found on CD singles , I have got frogger to locate the video data / track now , it reads the data but does not show it on the screen :-( -- Ralph ralph@twiss.org http://www.twiss.org The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961972202/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Jun 25 22:44:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 27896 invoked by uid 504); 25 Jun 2000 21:44:43 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 21:44:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4251-961969475-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2000 21:44:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8590 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 21:44:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2000 21:44:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 21:44:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax01-078.enterprise.net [212.161.113.78]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21620 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:44:32 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:44:29 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > I have just typed Frogger.PPC VIDEOCD VCDDEVICE blizzppc.device > VCDUNIT 6 > > ( to try to get frogger to read a data track on a music cd ) > > and got the reply bad number > > :-( > > any sugestions ?? on a music CD? Doesn't Frogger only play video cds? (or did you mean video cd? :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Hot water is heavier than cold. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961969476/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From joe@cally.abelgratis.com Sun Jun 25 23:26:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30545 invoked by uid 504); 25 Jun 2000 22:26:57 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:26:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4252-961972009-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2000 22:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18863 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 22:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2000 22:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iona.abel.net.uk) (212.1.130.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:26:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28785 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 22:26:46 -0000 Received: from ppp-2-127.cvx1.telinco.net (HELO abelgratis.com) (cally@212.1.137.127) by iona.abel.net.uk with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:26:46 -0000 To: [just-amiga]EGroups Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Joe Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:26:57 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] File management Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All @ just-amiga, Recent delays in recieving and sending mail have resulted in an accumulation of posts to and from friends I have on a USA site. I want simply to capture text contents of actual letters so I can print them and deal coherently with them. I've saved them in read?xxxxx form. This produces masses of data that is very tedious to edit. Can't seem to impot them to Wordworth IV except 1 file at a time - again massively tedious. All I want is a printout of the letters without loads of ~rest of page info' either plain text or HTML. There must be a way to do it. Most grateful for help in this matter. Wouldn't like friends to expire before I work it out myself ;-) , RegardsJoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. Fill out the form for more info and you will receive a 10% discount on Windows 2000 or Linux training and the chance to win free training. http://click.egroups.com/1/5933/4/_/490399/_/961972009/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Jun 25 23:33:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30927 invoked by uid 504); 25 Jun 2000 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:33:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4254-961972388-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2000 22:33:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16446 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2000 22:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Jun 2000 22:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2000 22:33:07 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax06-147.enterprise.net [212.161.115.147]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA28184 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:33:05 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:33:02 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > > I am trying to play the Video clip that is often found on CD singles , > > I have got frogger to locate the video data / track now , it reads the data > but does not show it on the screen Relax, music cd's with videos on them are just normal data/audio cd's. You just load the movie file up as you would one saved on your harddrive, or magazine cover cd etc. You only need to use direct CD access for /real/ video cd's, as they use a special CD format. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961972388/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Mon Jun 26 03:59:47 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8989 invoked by uid 504); 26 Jun 2000 02:59:06 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 02:59:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4255-961988330-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2000 02:59:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 12455 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 02:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:49 -0000 Received: from icon-2.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-2.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.2]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06416 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:59:13 -0500 (CDT) To: "Andrew Crowe" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1227.211T2353T13194786wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:59:47 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25-Jun-00 17:33:02 andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Andrew Crowe wrote: >Hi Everybody, >> >> I am trying to play the Video clip that is often found on CD singles >> , >> >> I have got frogger to locate the video data / track now , it reads >> the data but does not show it on the screen > Relax, music cd's with videos on them are just normal data/audio > cd's. You just load the movie file up as you would one saved on your > harddrive, or magazine cover cd etc. > You only need to use direct CD access for /real/ video cd's, as they > use a special CD format. Does anyone here have the Yes CD "The Ladder"? There is sopposed to be a demo of the Homeworld PC-game on the CD, but I can't get my drive to even recognize that the CD is in it. The drive works fine with other music CDs. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 25-Jun-0 21:57:31 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Mark 4:39 He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, "Quiet! Be still!" Then the wind died down and it was completely calm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/961988330/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Mon Jun 26 04:02:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8979 invoked by uid 504); 26 Jun 2000 02:58:54 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4256-961988331-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19466 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 02:58:50 -0000 Received: from icon-2.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-2.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.2]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06419 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:59:14 -0500 (CDT) To: "Joe Callaghan" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1460.211T2213T13224554wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "William F. Maddock" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:2:44 -0600 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] File management Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25-Jun-00 17:26:57 joe@cally.abelgratis.com Joe Callaghan wrote: >Hello All @ just-amiga, >Recent delays in recieving and sending mail have resulted in an >accumulation of posts to and from friends I have on a USA site. I want >simply to capture text contents of actual letters so I can print them >and deal coherently with them. I've saved them in read?xxxxx form. >This produces masses of data that is very tedious to edit. Can't seem >to impot them to Wordworth IV except 1 file at a time - again massively >tedious. All I want is a printout of the letters without loads of ~rest >of page info' either plain text or HTML. There must be a way to do it. >Most grateful for help in this matter. Wouldn't like friends to expire >before I work it out myself ;-) Does YAM 2.0 have an option in the save requester to allow you to choose how much header information gets saved with the email? I know THOR does. It allows me to save the whole blamed thing, just the minimal header stuff, or no header stuff at all. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 25-Jun-0 22:00:50 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6a Registered User Number 1621 -- Joshua 24:9 When Balak son of Zippor, the king of Moab, prepared to fight against Israel, he sent for Balaam son of Beor to put a curse on you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. 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Derek (/\)akefield iscandar@chatter.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know where I can find the latest version of MUI? Regards Steve Wroldsen -- Disclaimer * This e-mail is sent in confidence for the addressee only and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipients although the Council may copy it to any person whom it judges has a proper interest in receiving a copy of the message. Unauthorised recipients must preserve this confidentiality and should please advise the sender immediately and return without taking a copy. * If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any use, disclosure, copying, distribution of this e-mail or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited. * We have taken all reasonable precautions to ensure that no viruses are transmitted from Halton Borough Council to any third party. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Steve - Highways, http://www.sasg.com/ On 26-Jun-00, you wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find the latest version of MUI? > > Regards > > Steve Wroldsen Regards -- -- Matthew Hart -Dj & Composer- http://ntsn.bounce.to or http://bounce.to/ntsn -- AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon Jun 26 12:48:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11437 invoked by uid 504); 26 Jun 2000 13:02:16 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 13:02:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4260-962024523-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2000 13:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28242 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 13:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Jun 2000 13:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.173) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 13:01:55 -0000 Received: from modem-246.sodium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.10.246] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 136YWP-0001JU-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:54 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.sodium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 26 Jun 0 14:01:50 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <3957B68E.1A716@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:48:21 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Frogger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday June 25 2000, Ralph said to All: R> I have just typed Frogger.PPC VIDEOCD VCDDEVICE blizzppc.device VCDUNIT R> 6 R> and got the reply bad number Type "Frogger.ppc ?" and see which argument is wrong. Better still, copy all that from the shell and paste it in here :) -- Neil Williams, 0,0. mailto:neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk ICQ:18223711 http://www.aio.co.uk http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk fiydoh 2:442/107 Zeus Developments, comms s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. 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I tried retrieving them with Disksalv 2's undelete and salvage options, and the files do show up the the rescued files list. However, I select what I want resurrected, and when I change the output put to the place I want, the system goes into a partial freeze. That is, Disksalv and WB cease responding, but TolleUhr and Screentab appear to still be alive. The files aren't really important, but if I could get them back it would be nice. Sooner, Sandy, 6 months; blimey, can we last that long? -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5, PPC and BV Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.1 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. 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Better still, copy > all that from the shell and paste it in here :) I have now got it to see & read the data on a CD but it won't display it yet :-( -- Ralph ralph@twiss.org http://www.twiss.org Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/962041433/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Jun 26 18:22:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32553 invoked by uid 504); 26 Jun 2000 17:22:45 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 17:22:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4262-962040161-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2000 17:22:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 32704 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 17:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Jun 2000 17:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by mta3 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 17:22:39 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax03-042.enterprise.net [212.161.114.42]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15604 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:22:37 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:22:33 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DiskSalv 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > Okay, being the fool I am, I deleted some fles from my work: partition > (FFS), and now I'd like them back. I tried retrieving them with Disksalv > 2's undelete and salvage options, and the files do show up the the rescued > files list. However, I select what I want resurrected, and when I change > the output put to the place I want, the system goes into a partial freeze. > That is, Disksalv and WB cease responding, but TolleUhr and Screentab > appear to still be alive. > > The files aren't really important, but if I could get them back it would be > nice. Boot with no startup sequence and run it from CLI (a patch may need to access work for some reason, and hangs workbench and disksalv) Also, make sure the place you choose to retrieve the files to isn't anything do to with Work: Use a drawer on SYS: or ram: or some other partition. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/05/00 - Solar Conquest screen shots revealed - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Jupiter is bigger than all the other planets in our solar system combined. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. 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On 26-Jun-00, you wrote: > Boot with no startup sequence and run it from CLI (a patch may need to > access work for some reason, and hangs workbench and disksalv) This worked. Thanks. (I suppose a clean sys is the best place to do this stuff) > Also, make sure the place you choose to retrieve the files to isn't > anything do to with Work: Use a drawer on SYS: or ram: or some other > partition. It's okay, I wasn't doing that. Actually, I tried Ram: and Linux:, which is a different drive. Sooner, Sandy, appreciative -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5, PPC and BV Powered- Mail sent using YAM 2.1 Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Group: NE Scotland Mailing List- ag-nes-subscribe@egroups.com Sign up to afb-obsessed today! ---------------------------------- Chinese names and their meanings: Wai Yu Mun Ching -I thought you were on a diet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10% off Windows 2000 or Linux Certification training! Be one of the first 5000 people to visit http://www.cyberstateu.com/partner/info.html. 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I want >> simply to capture text contents of actual letters so I can print them >> and deal coherently with them. I've saved them in read?xxxxx form. > Does YAM 2.0 have an option in the save requester to allow you to choose > how much header information gets saved with the email? I know THOR does. > It allows me to save the whole blamed thing, just the minimal header > stuff, or no header stuff at all. > It does, but I think a batch system was wanted to save loading them into WW one by one. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 16 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer. 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EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, Spectrum Gfx Card. _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/4/_/490399/_/962069995/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Tue Jun 27 03:44:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13502 invoked by uid 504); 27 Jun 2000 21:53:12 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 21:53:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4268-962142763-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.39] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2000 21:53:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27027 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 21:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m5.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Jun 2000 21:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ostrich.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.14) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 21:46:17 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by ostrich.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23644 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust77.tnt1.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.17.93.77]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA07269 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:46:10 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:44:42 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: www.MUI.??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26-Jun-00 at 07:36:25, Wroldsen, Steve - Highways wrote these words of wisdom: > Does anyone know where I can find the latest version of MUI? 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Click Here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5481/4/_/490399/_/962196416/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From msayers@spidernet.com.cy Thu Jun 29 03:16:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22505 invoked by uid 504); 29 Jun 2000 03:16:57 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 03:16:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4270-962248612-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2000 03:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14247 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 03:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Jun 2000 03:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail0.spidernet.net) (194.154.128.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 03:16:42 -0000 Received: from spidernet.com.cy (lim-c53s02-l109.spidernet.net [194.154.147.117] with SMTP) by mail0.spidernet.net for id GAA14787; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:17:41 +0300 (EET DST) (ElectricMail-MESSAGE-2.0-GAMMA-SSM1.1-ANTISPAM) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000628124529.943CA1CE2E@mailer2.quickdot.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mark Sayers MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:16:51 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dot me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gareth On 28-Jun-00, you wrote: > Gareth Kempster would like to establish a Quickdot connection with > you. Gareth has created one end of the connection and is waiting for > you to activate your end. A case of oooopps, I think ? Regards Mark AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Thu Jun 29 08:42:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4427 invoked by uid 504); 29 Jun 2000 08:46:54 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 08:46:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-4271-962268242-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2000 09:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 14555 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 08:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Jun 2000 08:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.123) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 08:43:56 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust205.tnt4.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.31.17.205]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA22289 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.1 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-2000 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:42:31 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dot me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 28-Jun-00 at 23:16:51, Mark Sayers wrote these words of wisdom: > Hello Gareth > > On 28-Jun-00, you wrote: > >> Gareth Kempster would like to establish a Quickdot connection with >> you. Gareth has created one end of the connection and is waiting for >> you to activate your end. > > > A case of oooopps, I think ? 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