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From lairfight@softhome.net Mon Feb 01 20:05:31 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1229-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 19:11:41 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:11:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:11:28 0000 Received: (qmail 16068 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 20:09:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15843 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 20:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 20:09:17 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t3o68p78.telia.com [62.20.139.78]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19498 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:33 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Lisa Purcell Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:05:31 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Linus Akesson On 01-Feb-99, Lisa Purcell (us@timaru.com) wrote: >From: Lisa Purcell >Hello >I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! >I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? >Where and how to I get it? >How do I use it? >Many thanks >-Lisa Telnet? Well.. when two programs on the internet decide to communicate with each other, they make a connection. They can then send and recieve characters. A web browser for example will connect to the web server, where another program (whose only purpose is to wait for a connection) will answer. Your web browser sends some characters that, rather complexly, mean something like "load index.html and give me the result". The two programs can thus communicate with complex transfer protocols. But if all you want to transfer IS characters, you don't need any protocol. How about a program that displays all characters it recieves on the screen, and that sends all characters you enter at the keyboard? That's what a Telnet client does. You can use it to e.g. remote login to a unix computer, play text based adventure games, chat 1-to-1 or whatever. You can get one at aminet, just search for telnet. Oh, and congratulations to a great choice of computer! I hope/suppose you will find nothing but friends among us other amiga users! Linus .--> ____ | \OO/ - -- --- ------ Linus Akesson -- http://fly.to/linus.world -. `-OoO-\/-OoO---------------------------------------------------------------' 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't. -------> MrCookie v1.1 (text/misc/MrCookie.lha) <-------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Mon Feb 01 19:59:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1230-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 09:26:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:26:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:26:47 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) id QQgasm03742 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28606 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 20:02:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28369 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 20:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 20:02:04 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-23.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.23]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA28288 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:59:39 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Larry Miller Hello Riccardo On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: > From: Riccardo Cretti > > Hello Larry! > > On 30-Gen-99, you wrote: > >> Hi. I recently ran across some Wolfenstein wads for use with Doom2. Has >> anyone had any luck getting these to work? In fact I havn't had any luck >> with any custom wads. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Are you sure that is possible to run a port of Doom with Doom2 and a > Wolfenstein wad? > I remember when I used ADoom 1.2 with the commercial wad of Doom2 > and a custom wad, and worked perfectly. > Maybe a corrupted wad? > The Wolfenstein 3D wad aren't compatible with Doom2? > You're using the Doom2 main wad of the shareware version? > The wads I am trying were made for Doom2. They are not actually real Wolfenstein wads. When I find the website again I'll send it along to the list to see if anyone else has tried these. I did get one to work sort of. It worked for about two or three minute and then is froze. I'll have to try some others. I am using Adoom 1.2 with a registered Doom2 wad. Regards, Larry Miller -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Mon Feb 01 21:56:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1231-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 09:42:49 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:42:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:42:48 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) id QQgasv23917 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27863 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 22:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27237 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 22:23:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 22:23:31 -0000 Received: from modem-75.silicon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.6.203] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107RkI-0003ly-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:23:07 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:56:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga 2 PC From: Loki Hello, Does anybody know a way I can copy some files to the PC that are bigger than 720K? A program to split and join, or a backup program that works? (Like PCBackup) Or maybe something like the SpanDisks option in ZIP? I just wanna try out some Emulators :) Thanks! Cya,.. -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Sun Jan 31 13:49:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1232-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 09:50:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:50:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:50:01 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) id QQgasv04059 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 623 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 22:28:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 171 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 22:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 22:28:00 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.2] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 107Rmr-0006CS-00; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:25:45 +0000 From: Ralph To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:49:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Ralph Hello Thomas On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: snip--> >> You can't have 50% with no probs and 50% with crashes > > Yam has a problem with the software used on some ISP's POP3 servers. It's > nothing to do with the system Yam is running on. Marcel thinks he knows > what the problem is (A buffer overrun), but he doesn't exactly seem to be > in a hurry to fix it... Yet again Ralph learns some thing that is going to help fill the virtual space between his ears :-) Ralph ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From willik@bellatlantic.net Mon Feb 01 16:39:08 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1237-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 09:54:14 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:54:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:54:13 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) id QQgatj16904 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11205 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 01:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8949 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 01:57:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.156) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 01:57:39 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-204-202-68.bellatlantic.net [151.204.202.68]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA01979 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:43:24 -0500 (EST) From: Willi Kusche To: Loki Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:39:08 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga 2 PC From: Willi Kusche Hi! On 02-Feb-99, Loki wrote: > Does anybody know a way I can copy some files to the PC that >are bigger than 720K? A program to split and join, or a backup >program that works? (Like PCBackup) Or maybe something like >the SpanDisks option in ZIP? I recommend hooking your Amiga and PC together with a null modem cable and using PC2Amiga. It allows you to access any directory on the PC as if it were an Amiga directory. Find it on Aminet as comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha. Willi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Tue Feb 02 00:29:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1235-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 10:07:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:07:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:07:35 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) id QQgate00208 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18463 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 00:33:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17675 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 00:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 00:33:14 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-43.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.43]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA21603 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:29:28 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Larry Miller Hello Andrew On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > > I belive that DoomII actually has 2 secret levels in Wolfenstein > style (level 31&2 I think) > > Use 'IDCLEV31' etc.(dont quote me on that cheat though, havn't played Thanks. You remembered the correct level. Guess this will give me something to mess aorund with until I get the other wads sorted out. In case you or anyone else is interested here is the web site that I got the Wolfenstein (for Doom2) wads from. http://www.doomworld.com/wolfendoom/index2.html Regards, Larry Miller Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Tue Feb 02 06:28:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1238-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 10:35:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:35:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:35:53 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) id QQgaty08702 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28827 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 05:54:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 28818 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 05:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.primenet.com) (206.165.6.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 05:54:09 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24892 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:40:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-081.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.81), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd024810; Mon Feb 1 22:39:52 1999 From: Hilda To: Lisa Purcell Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:28:44 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 01-Feb-99, Lisa Purcell is alleged to have said... >From: Lisa Purcell >Hello >I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! >I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? >Where and how to I get it? >How do I use it? >Many thanks >-Lisa Welcom. I am known as the "list technical idiot" on another Amiga mailing list - Pure Amiga - so let me try to explain this to you in my own simple- minded way. When you go on the internet, you use a program to log onto another computer - your internet service provider, or ISP. Then you use a browser to go onto the internet. Before the popularity of the internet, there used to be a lot of computer bulletin boards - or BBS's -(there still are a few, but they are not as popular now). To access a BBS, you would use a program called a "dial-up" program that would connect you by phone to the computer that the BBS was on. If the BBS was not local, you would have to pay for the long distance phone call. A "telnet" progam allows you to go directly into another computer. If the other computer is a BBS, you are going directly there without the long distance phone charge as you can go through your ISP. You can, if your ISP allows it, log on to a friend's ISP and then telnet to your ISP. I do this when I stay with my father in Texas. I log onto his ISP then telnet to mine to read my e-mail. This is because my ISP has no phone numbers in Texas and I save the long distance phone charge by having his ISP, in effect, call my ISP. IF you work for a company that has a computer and you want to work from home, it may be possible to telnet into the computer at work. You can also do this with some computers at universities or libraries. It can be set up so that you are actually logged onto another computer thousands of miles away from your own home computer. My husband used to telnet into the mainframe computer his company had across the country and write programs for it from home. Hundreds of programmers could all be telnetting into this computer at once. This is not something MANY computer users know about. I would venture to say that your average person on the Web today has never even heard of a telnet program, so it may not be something that you really need to know about. What was it that you were trying to do that you thought a telnet program would do for you? Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Feb 01 23:56:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1234-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 12:35:14 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:35:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:35:13 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) id QQgasx06542 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19200 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 22:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18845 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 22:54:40 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-209.enterprise.net [194.72.197.209]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08071 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:57:22 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:56:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga 2 PC From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Does anybody know a way I can copy some files to the PC that > are bigger than 720K? A program to split and join, or a backup > program that works? (Like PCBackup) Or maybe something like > the SpanDisks option in ZIP? Zip them first. Split them with MUIjoin. (on aminet) This should create a load of files called FILENAME.JAA FILENAME.JAB FILENAME.JAC FILENAME.JAD FILENAME.JAE etc. Make sure you copy them in the right order to the pc then goto the directory on the PC where you copied them and type into MS-DOS COPY FILENAME.*/B FILENAME.ZIP it should then print out: FILENAME.JAA FILENAME.JAB FILENAME.JAC FILENAME.JAD FILENAME.JAE Opperation sucsessful. if it does the filenames in the wrong order and/or PKunzip won't unzip it, you have to do COPY FILENAME.JAA/B&FILENAME.JAB/B&FILENAME.JAC/B FILENAME.ZIP etc. (don't quote me on that last one though) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Tue Feb 02 13:54:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1239-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 14:07:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:07:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:07:54 0000 Received: (qmail 26521 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 14:05:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 26451 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 14:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 14:05:38 -0000 Received: from modem-107.fluorine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.107] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107gUL-0007YQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:07:37 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:54:01 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Loki Hello Hilda Hiya, Hilda... ,on 02-Feb-99 you wrote me about [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet! :) H>> From: Hilda H>> H>> Then you use a browser H>> to go onto the internet. Before the popularity of the internet, there H>> used to be a lot of computer bulletin boards - or BBS's -(there still are H>> a few, but they are not as popular now). To access a BBS, you would use a H>> program called a "dial-up" program that would connect you by phone to the `Termial Package' :), Saying `Dial-Up' program /seems/ more to refer to a `Dialer' (TCPStack) such as Miami or AmTCP :) I used to run a BBS :) And what do you mean, `There still are a */few/*'? There are litterally 1000s!! You just gotta look for them, ever seen a Fido Node-List? Granted, there are probably only about 10% of what there used to be, but there are still lots about :))), and I still log-onto some from time to time to chat with the SysOps' :) H>> computer that the BBS was on. If the BBS was not local, you would have to H>> pay for the long distance phone call. H>> H>> A "telnet" progam allows you to go directly into another computer. If you want to try out TelNet, get a hold of AmTelNet which was with the Lite version of NetConnect2 (There`s probably a demo on AmiNet, maybe) which was on CUCD26. Then open your browser, point it to altavista (www.altavista.com) and just search `TelNet'.. If you have the Lite/Full version of NetConnect2 installed you will be presented with a set of links that when clicked on will automatically fire-up AmTelNet for you, and start the login procedure :) If you dont have the full instalation, It can be setup in all the Amiga Browsers to automatically load AmTelNet. But you could just get the Location and import it to AmTelNet manually :) I dont think anybody else has said anything about getting onto a TelNet sites on the Amiga, have they? H>> This is not something MANY computer users know about. I would venture H>> to say that your average person on the Web today has never even heard H>> of a telnet program, so it may not be something that you really need H>> to know about. Erm, I can tell you *al*l the people I used (still do) know from my BBS`in days know about TelNet, 1 person I know was actually going to set one up :) But I agree, not that many pll know a lot about TelNet and that definalty includes *me*, ehehehehe :) Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Feb 01 23:48:31 1999 tets >From bounce-just-amiga--1233-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 15:03:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:03:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:03:10 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) id QQgasx08436 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9538 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 22:51:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9131 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 22:51:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 22:51:19 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-209.enterprise.net [194.72.197.209]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06442 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:49:38 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:48:31 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > The wads I am trying were made for Doom2. They are not actually real > Wolfenstein wads. When I find the website again I'll send it along to the > list to see if anyone else has tried these. I did get one to work sort of. > It worked for about two or three minute and then is froze. I'll have to try > some others. > I am using Adoom 1.2 with a registered Doom2 wad. I belive that DoomII actually has 2 secret levels in Wolfenstein style (level 31&2 I think) Use 'IDCLEV31' etc.(dont quote me on that cheat though, havn't played it for ages!) As for the fact that these custom wads crash, well, um, I have no idea. I'd email the author if I was you. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue Feb 02 10:06:55 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1240-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 17:14:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:14:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:14:09 0000 Received: (qmail 12235 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 18:12:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 12222 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 18:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 18:12:12 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p060.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.124]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA04648; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:13:50 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Larry Miller Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:06:55 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Larry Miller wrote on 30-Jan-99: |>> |>> Yam has a filter that seems easy to use, but one which dosn't work! |>> |>Have you tried using a newer version of Yam? I never could get the |>> Sounds like a worthy tactic, I'll let you know if that works out. |>Good luck. Which release are you going to try, 5 or 6? I can't seem to get |>6 to work right. It seems that a lot of users get a crash trying to |>download a large number of articles and then a lot don't. 5 works perfectly |>for me. Maybe I'll be able to use the next one. YAM 1.3.4 is the one I have which is good, YAM 1.3.5 is the new one which seems the same. Niether will filter. It seems most likely to me that I'm doing it wrong. All I do is goto 'config' and select the filter part. I create a new filtering 'trick' with name and pattern, tell it to delete it if it's in the subject and then from main yam I click 'filter'. No go. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Life in the long term is for longer than life in the short term. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue Feb 02 20:31:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1241-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 17:39:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:39:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:39:34 0000 Received: (qmail 3502 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 17:41:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 3372 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 17:40:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 17:40:51 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p049.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.113]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA02858; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:39:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Thomas Hurst Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 06:31:37 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 31-Jan-99: |>[Yam] |>Yam has a problem with the software used on some ISP's POP3 servers. It's |>nothing to do with the system Yam is running on. Marcel thinks he knows what |>the problem is (A buffer overrun), but he doesn't exactly seem to be in a But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually do it, so it seems. It's a pest alright. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Mon Feb 01 22:07:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1242-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 18:03:03 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:03:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:03:03 0000 Received: (qmail 10418 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 18:17:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10275 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 18:16:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 18:16:43 -0000 Received: from modem-66.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.66] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107k9k-00001V-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:02:37 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Dral On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > I'm finally being forced into a corner! After fighting the > inevitable for a year or so I'm now beginning to find it very hard to > get certain software on floppy. For the first time I'm seriously > thinking about buying a CD ROM. Like me > (I have an Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230 accelerator including 8 > megs of extra ram. Internal HD and two external floppy drives). a bit like me > Questions... > (1) What needs to be done to fit an internal CD ROM? Can *anybody* do > it or should only /experts/ do it? internal? on a 1200? you can't. Where would you put it? do you see anywhere that it would fit? You have 2 options. External : you can either buy a pcmia slot one (hole on the left) or buy a scsi interface and then add one. this will be faster and give you a scsi chain. the surfsquirrle will also give you a faster serial port. internal: put your 1200 in a tower, like me. this way you can add loads more, cd drives, zips, more harddrives and it looks neater > (2) Where does an external CD ROM plug into an A1200? in the pcmia slot, on the left. or if the 1200 is in a tower, it can go onto the ide socket (like your harddrive) > (3) Most of all, does anybody have a list (or URL) which has a > selection of CD ROMs, UK retailers and UK prices? buy the latest amiga format magazine and have a look www.powerc.com (or may be .co.uk ?) www.eyetech.co.uk > (4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you > recommend it? I too would like to know Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Mon Feb 01 22:08:43 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1243-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 18:03:07 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:03:07 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:03:06 0000 Received: (qmail 10604 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 18:17:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 10290 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 18:16:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 18:16:46 -0000 Received: from modem-66.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.66] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107k9m-00001V-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:02:38 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Lisa On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Lisa Purcell > Hello > I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! > I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? > Where and how to I get it? > How do I use it? > Many thanks > -Lisa If you are new to computers, you do not want to be playing with telnet. it is a piece of software which allows you to connect to bbs (bulliten board systems) these are pretty old, and there are not many left now. Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Tue Feb 02 09:20:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1244-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 18:08:22 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:08:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:08:22 0000 Received: (qmail 4015 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 18:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3520 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 18:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 18:25:44 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0478.claranet.co.uk [195.8.90.224]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13197 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:05:42 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:20:44 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 01-Feb-99, Larry Miller wrote: > Hello Ralph > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: >> Hello Thomas >> On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: >> snip--> >>>> You can't have 50% with no probs and 50% with crashes >>> >>> Yam has a problem with the software used on some ISP's POP3 servers. It's >>> nothing to do with the system Yam is running on. Marcel thinks he knows >>> what the problem is (A buffer overrun), but he doesn't exactly seem to be >>> in a hurry to fix it... >> >> Yet again Ralph learns some thing that is going to help fill the virtual >> space between his ears >> > > If the ISP theory is true then why do I have a problem with release 6 and my > brother who is using the same internet provider and mail server (although a > different account) has no problem with it? It only shows up when you have a certain number of emails (usually about 60). You might also find different accounts go to different POP3 servers. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15611 2^28 blocks done -- Press any key to continue, and any other key to format hard drive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Mon Feb 01 22:50:41 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1245-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 18:24:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:24:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:24:57 0000 Received: (qmail 17029 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 19:23:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16958 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 19:22:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 19:22:56 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.165] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id va705375 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:23:01 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Lisa! On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > I would appreciate some info on Telnet. Ok. > What is it? Telnet allow you to use a remote server as if you are really on the keyboard of this computer (but you aren't). > Where and how to I get it? You can use a program like AmTelnet 1.3. It's available a shareware version on the Vaporware site at the URL http://www.vapor.com > How do I use it? You insert the domain where you want to connect, and the port that you want to use. -- Riccardo Cretti - CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Tue Feb 02 19:38:25 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1246-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 18:39:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:39:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:39:34 0000 Received: (qmail 13578 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 18:36:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13130 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 18:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 18:36:25 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t4o68p2.telia.com [62.20.139.122]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA19893 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:41:43 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:38:25 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Linus Akesson On 01-Feb-99, Matthew O'Neill (mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) wrote: >From: Matthew O'Neill >Hi Lisa >On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: >> From: Lisa Purcell >> Hello >> I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! >> I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? >> Where and how to I get it? >> How do I use it? >> Many thanks >> -Lisa >If you are new to computers, you do not want to be playing with telnet. >it is a piece of software which allows you to connect to bbs (bulliten board >systems) these are pretty old, and there are not many left now. Noooo. That's wrong. BBSs is only _one_ thing you can do with telnet, you can play on MUDs, remote login to unix-like (and many more) systems, use archie, query internic, send (fake) email, read email (if you have a shell account somewhere) etc. etc. etc. Linus .--> ____ | \OO/ - -- --- ------ Linus Akesson -- http://fly.to/linus.world -. `-OoO-\/-OoO---------------------------------------------------------------' The maze was so small that people got lost looking for it. -- Terry Pratchett: Men at arms. --------> MrCookie v1.1 (text/misc/MrCookie.lha) <-------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Tue Feb 02 21:05:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1247-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 20:36:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:36:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:36:53 0000 Received: (qmail 7818 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 20:38:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7801 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 20:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 20:38:16 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-028-0418.claranet.co.uk [195.8.84.164]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16633 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:34:17 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:05:38 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 02-Feb-99, Rick Giles wrote: > It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 31-Jan-99: Yeah, like most things I write ;) > |>[Yam] > |>Yam has a problem with the software used on some ISP's POP3 servers. It's > |>nothing to do with the system Yam is running on. Marcel thinks he knows what > |>the problem is (A buffer overrun), but he doesn't exactly seem to be in a > > But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually > do it, so it seems. Nothing to do with filtering, but when Yam connects and says "Getting statistics" Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15646 2^28 blocks done -- WinErr 43e: Modem driver corrupt. Download latest version any try again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Tue Feb 02 00:32:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1236-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 21:24:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:24:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:24:31 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) id QQgate08586 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21935 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 00:36:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 21428 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 00:36:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 00:36:16 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-43.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.43]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA23465 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:37:39 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Larry Miller Hello Ralph On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > From: Ralph > > Hello Thomas > > On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: > snip--> >>> You can't have 50% with no probs and 50% with crashes >> >> Yam has a problem with the software used on some ISP's POP3 servers. It's >> nothing to do with the system Yam is running on. Marcel thinks he knows >> what the problem is (A buffer overrun), but he doesn't exactly seem to be >> in a hurry to fix it... > > Yet again Ralph learns some thing that is going to help fill the virtual > space between his ears > If the ISP theory is true then why do I have a problem with release 6 and my brother who is using the same internet provider and mail server (although a different account) has no problem with it? -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue Feb 02 22:03:31 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1248-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 22:23:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:23:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:23:12 0000 Received: (qmail 8404 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 22:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8323 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 22:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 22:37:02 -0000 Received: from modem-24.perium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.152] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107oDe-0001iz-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:22:54 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:03:31 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga 2 PC From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Willi On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > I recommend hooking your Amiga and PC together with a null modem cable > and using PC2Amiga. It allows you to access any directory on the PC as if > it were an Amiga directory. Find it on Aminet as comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha. yep, this works brilliantly. I installed quake on my amiga like this :) took 1 hour though Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue Feb 02 22:04:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1249-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 22:23:21 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:23:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:23:20 0000 Received: (qmail 32561 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 22:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 32531 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 22:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 22:20:57 -0000 Received: from modem-24.perium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.152] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 107oDg-0001iz-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:22:56 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:04:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 02-Feb-99, you wrote: > But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually > do it, so it seems. yeah, filtering happens offline, after the download is complete. unless you mean the type where it happens server side, like spam filtering etc. that works on freeserve :) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Tue Feb 02 23:53:22 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1250-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 22:55:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:55:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:55:51 0000 Received: (qmail 32306 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 23:53:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 31343 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 23:53:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 23:53:07 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.58] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 107ogE-0006TN-00; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:52:26 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:53:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Stephen Williams Larry Miller (lmill@bellatlantic.net) wrote: > In case you or anyone else is interested here is the web site that I got > the Wolfenstein (for Doom2) wads from. > > http://www.doomworld.com/wolfendoom/index2.html I downloaded the "Second Encounter" .WAD; it works for me. I use the latest version of DoomAttack. Unzip the .WAD, and use adeusf from Aminet to patch it with your Doom II .WAD thusly: adeusf doom2.wad 2nd_enc.wad 2nd_enc_patched.wad Stick the patched .WAD and the .DEH file into your Doom directory. You should be able to start the game using: doomattack -wad doom2.wad -file 2nd_enc_patched.wad -deh 2nd_enc.deh I haven't extensively playtested this, mind you; I've got onto the third level so far (boy, this is difficult!) and it works up to this point. -- +--<><--- Stephen Williams -- sw@nysa.u-net.com -- sw@fysh.org ---<><--+ +------- Amiga Technologies A1200HD 030/50 882/50 16Mb fastram --------+ +------------------- Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A 128Kb -------------------+ +------- Why not visit my homepage? http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ -------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 03 00:19:25 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1251-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 23:23:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:23:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:23:01 0000 Received: (qmail 31434 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 23:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 28623 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 23:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 23:18:43 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0199.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.199]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20555 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:18:20 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 02-Feb-99, Thomas Hurst wrote: > On 02-Feb-99, Rick Giles wrote: > >> It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 31-Jan-99: > > Yeah, like most things I write ;) >> But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually >> do it, so it seems. > > Nothing to do with filtering, but when Yam connects and says "Getting > statistics" Ummm, I'll complete that - it crashes on some POP3 servers. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15674 2^28 blocks done -- Pentium instruction of the day: RJE: Return Jump and Explode ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Tue Feb 02 23:18:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1252-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 02 23:25:07 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:25:07 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:25:06 0000 Received: (qmail 3956 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 00:23:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 32615 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 00:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 00:19:46 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-7.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.7]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA26231 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Larry Miller Hello Thomas On 02-Feb-99, you wrote: >> If the ISP theory is true then why do I have a problem with release 6 and > my >> brother who is using the same internet provider and mail server (although > a >> different account) has no problem with it? > > It only shows up when you have a certain number of emails (usually about > 60). You might also find different accounts go to different POP3 servers. > I do get a lot more e-mails than he does. Usually 150 to 175 per day. However according to our prefs we both have the same mail server. That is unless mail gets redirected on the server side. Larry -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Wed Feb 03 01:38:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1253-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 01:42:59 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:42:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:42:58 0000 Received: (qmail 159 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 01:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 32192 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 01:40:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 01:40:11 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-9.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.9]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA13682 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:43:54 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:38:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Larry Miller Hello Stephen On 02-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Larry Miller (lmill@bellatlantic.net) wrote: >> In case you or anyone else is interested here is the web site that I got >> the Wolfenstein (for Doom2) wads from. >> >> http://www.doomworld.com/wolfendoom/index2.html > > I downloaded the "Second Encounter" .WAD; it works for me. I use the > latest version of DoomAttack. > > Unzip the .WAD, and use adeusf from Aminet to patch it with your Doom > II .WAD thusly: > adeusf doom2.wad 2nd_enc.wad 2nd_enc_patched.wad > > Stick the patched .WAD and the .DEH file into your Doom directory. > You should be able to start the game using: > doomattack -wad doom2.wad -file 2nd_enc_patched.wad -deh 2nd_enc.deh > > I haven't extensively playtested this, mind you; I've got onto the > third level so far (boy, this is difficult!) and it works up to this > point. Thanks, I'll give it a try. Larry -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Wed Feb 03 04:36:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1254-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 04:03:19 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:03:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:03:18 0000 Received: (qmail 21994 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 04:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21908 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 04:20:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp04.primenet.com) (206.165.6.134) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 04:20:50 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15778 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:03:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-083.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.83), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdb15602; Tue Feb 2 21:02:52 1999 From: Hilda To: Loki Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:36:20 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 02-Feb-99, Loki is alleged to have said... >H>> From: Hilda >H>> >H>> Then you use a browser >H>> to go onto the internet. Before the popularity of the internet, there >H>> used to be a lot of computer bulletin boards - or BBS's -(there still are >H>> a few, but they are not as popular now). To access a BBS, you would use a >H>> program called a "dial-up" program that would connect you by phone to the >`Termial Package' :), Saying `Dial-Up' program /seems/ more to refer to a >`Dialer' (TCPStack) such as Miami or AmTCP :) Didn't know this. I use JR Comm daily and always heard it referred to as a "dial up" program. I use JR Comm to log-on to my shell account and use the ISP's telnet client or TIN for usenet. >I used to run a BBS :) ^^^^ My point, exactly :) >And what do you mean, `There still are a */few/*'? There are litterally >1000s!! You just gotta look for them, ever seen a Fido Node-List? >Granted, there are probably only about 10% of what there used to be, >but there are still lots about :))), and I still log-onto some from time >to time to chat with the SysOps' :) I don't know about fido-nodes, but around here, there is one semi-amiga BBS for 300 miles... There used to be 6-8 within a local calling area... Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk Wed Feb 03 11:29:25 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1255-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 10:30:19 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:30:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:30:18 0000 Received: (qmail 2779 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 10:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2758 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 10:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk) (193.62.34.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 10:31:30 -0000 Received: from eee.rgu.ac.uk (ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk [193.62.34.252]) by glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22334 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:28:40 GMT Message-Id: <199902031028.KAA22334@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> Received: from NS-EEE-1/SpoolDir by eee.rgu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 3 Feb 99 10:29:38 0 Received: from SpoolDir by NS-EEE-1 (Mercury 1.44); 3 Feb 99 10:29:26 0 From: "David McMinn" Organization: The Robert Gordon University, E&EE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:29:25 -0000 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: "David McMinn" > External : you can either buy a pcmia slot one (hole on the left) or buy a > scsi interface and then add one. this will be faster and give you a scsi > chain. the surfsquirrle will also give you a faster serial port. You can also fit an external IDE device, as long as you have a buffered interface and a long enough cable. Both of which you'd need if you put your Amiga into a tower. (Unless you wnet SCSI.) > > (3) Most of all, does anybody have a list (or URL) which has a > > selection of CD ROMs, UK retailers and UK prices? Go into a PC hardware store, and buy an ATAPI/(E)IDE CD ROM. Or a SCSI one which suits the interface you have. It's all the same, just Amiga suppliers charge more. > > (4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you > > recommend it? > > I too would like to know I recommened LG (Goldstar) CD ROMs. I've used them in many PCs and my Amiga, and have never had any trouble with them. Very robust, quite nice looking (as far as a CD ROM can look nice:). They even read CDRWs. And they're as cheap as all the other makes of CD ROM out there. I've got a 16 speed IDE LG CDROM connected through a buffered 4-way interface and using IDEFix97. |) /\ \/ ][ |) |\/| © |\/| ][ |\| |\| d.mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk ICQ=16827694 http://members.xoom.com/David_McMinn Am I getting smart with you? How would you know? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Wed Feb 03 11:44:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1256-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 11:18:28 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:18:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:18:27 0000 Received: (qmail 27839 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 11:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 27827 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 11:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 11:20:20 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp07.cubenet.de[194.97.90.7]) (1521 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:19:36 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:55 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:31 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE4F6A.90356A60.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:30 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: Oliver Kastl On Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:29 AM, David McMinn [SMTP:D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk] wrote: > I recommened LG (Goldstar) CD ROMs. I've used them in many PCs and my > Amiga, > and have never had any trouble with them. Very robust, quite nice looking > (as > far as a CD ROM can look nice:). They even read CDRWs. And they're as > cheap as > all the other makes of CD ROM out there. > I've got a 16 speed IDE LG CDROM connected through a buffered 4-way > interface > and using IDEFix97. If you can find them, get a TEAC (e.g. the 532E). They do nice things like CDDA extraction, reading raw Subchannels, etc. Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 03 10:39:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1257-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 17:08:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:08:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:08:23 0000 Received: (qmail 18745 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 17:26:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18660 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 17:26:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 17:26:05 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p039.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.103]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA22631; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:08:05 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:39:38 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Terminus Script From: Rick Giles Here's a chance to be useful! I have created a terminus script to count rings on the phone, but I want to log them so I can see it for later. Unfortunatly the logfile will not accept INTEGER VARIABLES, ie I can't say: log RingNumbers but it's fine to say log RingNumber$ because that would be a STRING VARIABLE. So what I need to know is how to convert an integer to a string. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The front-line is everywhere. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 03 08:05:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1258-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 17:08:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:08:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:08:23 0000 Received: (qmail 1099 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 17:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1032 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 17:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 17:09:53 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p039.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.103]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA22601; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:07:55 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Frank Bunton Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:05:52 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B3A09D.1D9BD981@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Frank Bunton wrote on 31-Jan-99: |>> and I must say, it's a bit quiet. |>And one message already - if that keeps up it won't be quiet!! I just got rid of two other onlists because they're too big. Even with this one I wish yam's filter would work. This size is comfortable enough to keep. |>> Let's hope the NG Amiga is as "Kickass" as they say it will be. |>I am really looking forward to when I can revert to a new Amiga I wonder if you could tell me just briefly what it's going to do? Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Tue Feb 02 21:35:51 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1259-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 18:17:20 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:17:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:17:19 0000 Received: (qmail 32170 invoked by alias); 4 Feb 1999 18:17:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 32090 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1999 18:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 18:17:30 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.179] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id fa705723 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:15:31 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:35:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Dral! On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > I'm finally being forced into a corner! After fighting the > inevitable for a year or so I'm now beginning to find it very hard to > get certain software on floppy. For the first time I'm seriously > thinking about buying a CD ROM. Good idea! > (I have an Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230 accelerator including 8 > megs of extra ram. Internal HD and two external floppy drives). > Questions... > (1) What needs to be done to fit an internal CD ROM? Can *anybody* do > it or should only /experts/ do it? Internal? Impossible. You can buy a Squirrel or a Surf Squirrel, plug it in the PCMCIA port, and connect a SCSI CD ROM to it. I did this with a Plextor 6x, and worked very well. I _strongly_ suggest you to buy a tower for your Amiga. I've bought a Power Tower and is a good tower, with a lot of space. > (2) Where does an external CD ROM plug into an A1200? Read above. > (3) Most of all, does anybody have a list (or URL) which has a > selection of CD ROMs, UK retailers and UK prices? I don't know, sorry. > (4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you > recommend it? Now I use a Samsung 32x CD ROM IDE in my Tower. Is very cheap, works very well with data CDs and is excellent also with the Audio CDs (CDDA). Also Plextor and Creative are good. -- Riccardo Cretti - CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 03 18:07:55 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1260-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 19:23:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:23:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:23:53 0000 Received: (qmail 30687 invoked by alias); 4 Feb 1999 19:24:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 30668 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1999 19:24:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 19:24:07 -0000 Received: from modem-74.dextroamphetam.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.62.202] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1087tk-0004E7-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:23:40 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:07:55 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Filters in YAM... From: Loki Hello, I only joined the list a while ago, and there has been a lot of mails posted about using Filters in YAM. I`m using YAMP6 here, and every single one of my filters works beautifully. I did have some problems with a Remote filler I made to remove mail off my server from me to mailing lists, to save downloading my own mails. But I sorted that too! Have I missed something?, Or are you all actually having probs with the Filters? Cya,.. -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From skvr@swipnet.se Wed Feb 03 16:11:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1261-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 19:46:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:46:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:46:35 0000 Received: (qmail 7088 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 20:04:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7057 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 20:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb04.swip.net) (193.12.122.208) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 20:04:16 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup178-4-18.swipnet.se [130.244.178.210]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12011 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:46:21 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:11:06 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga 2 PC From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Loki On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Loki > Hello, > Does anybody know a way I can copy some files to the PC that > are bigger than 720K? A program to split and join, or a backup > program that works? (Like PCBackup) Or maybe something like > the SpanDisks option in ZIP? Splitz&Jointz. There are versions both for PC and Amiga. Search the aminet, or give me a shout and I'll throw them your way... -- /ZoomiX < mailto:skvr@swipnet.se > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss A mind is a terrible thing to taste. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 03 19:50:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1262-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 03 19:50:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:50:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:50:30 0000 Received: (qmail 20985 invoked by alias); 4 Feb 1999 19:50:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20697 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1999 19:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 19:50:40 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-028-0085.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.85]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24034 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:47:44 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:50:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 02-Feb-99, Larry Miller wrote: > Hello Thomas > > On 02-Feb-99, you wrote: > >> It only shows up when you have a certain number of emails (usually about >> 60). You might also find different accounts go to different POP3 servers. >> > I do get a lot more e-mails than he does. Usually 150 to 175 per day. As opposed to...? If it's less than about 60 then that'll be why. > However according to our prefs we both have the same mail server. That is > unless mail gets redirected on the server side. It's possible, but I don't really know enough about them to say that much. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15719 2^28 blocks done -- 0405 Do you know any people? 0406 ... more than one? 0407 ... more than two? -- from THE HACKER TEST ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Fri Feb 05 03:13:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1263-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 05 02:22:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 02:22:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 02:22:58 0000 Received: (qmail 10905 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 1999 02:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10831 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1999 02:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fatman.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1999 02:22:31 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912413.acay.com.au [203.19.124.13]) by fatman.acay.com.au (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA31627 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:37:20 +1100 Message-ID: <36BA53D3.351DBB84@acay.com.au> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:13:39 +1100 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Frank Bunton Hey, Sankey seems to have started something here! And I have only just been able to get back to it and put in another penny's worth. Matthew O'Neill wrote: > > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Frank On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > > > Well I must admit that I have given up using my beloved Amiga for web > > surfing. I just cannot justify spending more money on my A1200 to try > > and keep up with the rapid developments in software that Microsoft and > > Netscape are doing - it was just hopeless trying to read web pages with > > Amiga browsers. > > Why? only about 1% of web pages use all the fancy stuff, so why not? > > We have the best mailer and IRC program on any platform, and even PC users > are jeleous of them. YAM and AMIRC, they cannot be beaten. > > As for hardware, an 030 card with 16megs cost about 100 quid I have an A1200 OS3.1 with 68030/68882 8mb fast but I still find it is nowhere near the performance on the web as the PC PentiumII 300 64mb that I have access to for web surfing. My Amiga set up just cannot get any where near the performance of the PC. Maybe I could spend money as you suggest but I don't see any justification until the new Amigas come out. And prices in Australia are a lot higher than in UK or USA so what may be cheapish for you is rather expensive for us. The percentage of web pages use all the "fancy stuff" would depend on what sort of web surfing you do. I agree that nearly all Amiga related pages are designed for what the Amiga can handle but there is an awful lot of non computer related web pages that can be surfed that are designed for the latest Explorer and Netscape browsers. Brian Foster said:- > With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be > in trouble with or without the internet. It is a tribute to > the machine's greatness that there is any user base at all. > If anything the intermet saved the amiga because it kept a > small core community of users together I agree entirely with this comment. What would we do without Aminet and all the mailing lists? And what would we do without all the faithful developers who keep updating things like Directory Opus? Sankey wrote:- > I can't help, but feel sad at Your comment about "fancy stuff". > For one thing, the "fancy stuff" is what is being written NOW, > and is what is called progress Spot on! And if the current Amigas can't let us keep up with progress then unfortunately we have to use PC until the Amiga catches up. And a lot of that "fancy stuff" can be very useful in some situations. For instance, how else could I enter my tips in the weekly Australian Rules Football tipping competition at http://www.afltips.com/ ?? (Come on the Dons!!) BTW a quick glance through the headers of e-mails in a couple of Amiga mailing lists (not so much on this list but on others) shows quite a few using PC mailing programs so come on, hands up all those who are using PCs for the web!!. Another area in which PC is far ahead of Amiga at the moment is the vast amount of children's educational software on CD-ROM. I haven't seen anything like it for Amiga in Australia. Is there much Amiga stuff available in UK and USA? Some of the PC stuff is really fantastic for kids. Matthew O'Neill says:- > It's called the Ami*NET* because stuff is uploaded every minute > of the day via the *net* And I never cease to be amazed at just how much new stuff is appearing every day! Shows just how dedicated the Amiga user base is! I think the Amiga windows system is STILL far superior to that (ugghh!) PC Windows junk in many ways. So come on Amiga - get a new one out soon and let us update to something that will leave the PCs for dead! -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andyl@zetnet.co.uk Fri Feb 05 15:21:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1264-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 05 19:19:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:19:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:19:08 0000 Received: (qmail 27439 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 1999 19:21:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 27385 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1999 19:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1999 19:21:02 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-058.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.72]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18700 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:18:54 GMT From: Andrew Lowes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Personal Paint loaders From: Andrew Lowes Does anybody know why the Personal Paint Gif loader/saver has been removed from the Aminet? -- ---------------------------------------- Andrew Lowes is now available in widescreen. andyl@zetnet.co.uk. ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 05 21:09:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1265-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 05 20:09:20 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:09:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:09:19 0000 Received: (qmail 18458 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 1999 20:23:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18390 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1999 20:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1999 20:23:24 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.224] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 108rWs-0002oC-00; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:07:06 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:09:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint loaders From: Stephen Williams Andrew Lowes (andyl@zetnet.co.uk) wrote: > Does anybody know why the Personal Paint Gif loader/saver has been removed > from the Aminet? Probably due to a licensing problem. Unisys hold patents on the compression code used in GIF, and tend to demand large amounts of money from anyone who publishes commercial software using the routines. Cloanto tried to get round the problem by making the PPaint GIF plugin free; I suspect that Unisys are clamping down on it. I have this plugin (for PPaint 6.x) and can send it to you if you want. -- +--<><--- Stephen Williams -- sw@nysa.u-net.com -- sw@fysh.org ---<><--+ +------- Amiga Technologies A1200HD 030/50 882/50 16Mb fastram --------+ +------------------- Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A 128Kb -------------------+ +------- Why not visit my homepage? http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ -------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andyl@zetnet.co.uk Sat Feb 06 00:25:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1268-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 00:28:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:28:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:28:15 0000 Received: (qmail 23499 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 00:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23492 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 00:30:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 00:30:08 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-049.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.61]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA07878 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:28:00 GMT From: Andrew Lowes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:25:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint loaders From: Andrew Lowes > Andrew Lowes (andyl@zetnet.co.uk) wrote: >> Does anybody know why the Personal Paint Gif loader/saver has been >> removed from the Aminet? > > Probably due to a licensing problem. Unisys hold patents on the > compression code used in GIF, and tend to demand large amounts of money > from anyone who publishes commercial software using the routines. > Cloanto tried to get round the problem by making the PPaint GIF plugin > free; I suspect that Unisys are clamping down on it. > > I have this plugin (for PPaint 6.x) and can send it to you if you want. Regards That would be great thanks. -- --------------------------------------- Andrew Lowes is currently playing the lead in "Peter Stringfellow - The Musical" at the Hartlepool Playhouse. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sat Feb 06 01:52:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1269-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 00:56:42 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:56:42 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:56:39 0000 Received: (qmail 9580 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 01:54:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9570 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 01:54:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 01:54:33 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1544.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.8]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA26884; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:56:23 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Andrew Lowes Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:52:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint loaders From: Erik Bruser Hello Andrew On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Lowes > > >> Andrew Lowes (andyl@zetnet.co.uk) wrote: >>> Does anybody know why the Personal Paint Gif loader/saver has been >>> removed from the Aminet? >> >> Probably due to a licensing problem. Unisys hold patents on the >> compression code used in GIF, and tend to demand large amounts of money >> from anyone who publishes commercial software using the routines. >> Cloanto tried to get round the problem by making the PPaint GIF plugin >> free; I suspect that Unisys are clamping down on it. >> >> I have this plugin (for PPaint 6.x) and can send it to you if you want. > Regards > > That would be great thanks. > Regards A copy For me too please... -- Greetinx Erik Bruser ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sat Feb 13 15:03:56 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1352-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 14:03:21 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:03:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:03:12 0000 Received: (qmail 31434 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 14:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 31422 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 14:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 14:02:00 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp34.cubenet.de[194.97.90.34]) (1049 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:06:43 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:02:21 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:03:57 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5762.14692840.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:03:56 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: Oliver Kastl Oh, just forgot to mention: To prep the "big drive" I recommend my HDInstTools. It is ">4GB safe" and is available on my Website for free. Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sat Feb 13 14:52:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1353-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 14:26:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:26:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:26:33 0000 Received: (qmail 12519 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 14:25:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12514 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 14:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.65.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 14:25:21 -0000 Received: from [148.176.238.45] (helo=e2c9p45.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Bg1M-0006ya-00; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:26:12 +0000 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: None Date: 13 Feb 99 13:52:37 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Richard Lane" Hi Stephen Williams, In reference to "[just-amiga] Dust", > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi y'all > > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. > I use a small paint brush (about 1/2 inch wide) with a dab of methylated spirits here, works wonders. :) Those mini Vacuum cleaners IMHO are a waste of time. They're really not powerfull enough to do anything useful. -- Best Regards, *Richard Lane* - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Sat Feb 13 14:30:59 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1354-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 14:31:59 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:31:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:31:58 0000 Received: (qmail 9300 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 14:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 9295 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 14:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 14:30:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21345 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 08:31:42 -0600 Received: from mw-pm2-29.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.68) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 08:31:42 -0600 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Kenneth Craig Hello Stephen On 13-Feb-99, Stephen Williams wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi y'all > > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. > Don't bother buying on of those small computer vacuums as a large vacuum with a hose attachment does just as well, and you can use it to do other cleaning. -- Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Sat Feb 13 15:33:51 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1355-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 14:46:00 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:46:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:45:59 0000 Received: (qmail 8585 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 14:46:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8576 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 14:46:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 14:46:10 -0000 Received: from (p89.nas1.is3.u-net.net) [195.102.196.89] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10BgKR-0006Wu-00; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:45:55 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 13 Feb 99 14:33:51 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE5760.5BC0EE00.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000446] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Microsoft Outlook Express HTML off? From: "Nick Bergquist" Hi Oliver, > From: Oliver Kastl > > > Well actually I think this info would be welcomed by many Amiga users > > and should be posted publicly here! I think we all have this problem > > with html 'garbage' posted to us by PC users and... I for one would > > love to explain to them exactly how to stop it. > > Okay, that's easy: > > Tools->options... > Send... > Mail Sending Format: Plain Text > News Sending Format: Plain Text Good grief - it's that easy!! Looks like I was right about severe ineptitude then.. Thanks, Nick Bergquist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Feb 13 17:21:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1356-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 16:29:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:29:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:29:12 0000 Received: (qmail 28769 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 16:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28659 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 16:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 16:27:43 -0000 Received: from pm3-39.bahnhof.se (pm3-39.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.172]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05428 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:26:38 +0100 (MET) Date: 13 Feb 99 17:21:36 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Oliver Kastl" In-Reply-To: <01BE5762.14692840.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> Message-ID: <1233.713T1836T10414381@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: "Jonas Thorell" Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: >To prep the "big drive" I recommend my HDInstTools. >It is ">4GB safe" and is available on my Website for free. Someone care to enlighten me to why this happens (nothing to do with HDinsttools though): I'm using a Buddha IDE-interface in my A3000 and am trying to use two things on it, on separate IDE-channels. One 500 meg harddisk and one CD-changer. So far, no problem. I can access one or the other but not at the same time! If the CD-changer is attached to the Buddha, the harddisk is invisible to every program that inquires the bus to what devices it has. Remove the changer and I can do whatever I please to the harddisk. I really don't understand this since both channels seem to work just fine. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Sometimes you just gotta say "What the fuck!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Sat Feb 13 19:01:36 1999 0 octets >From bounce-just-amiga--1357-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 18:12:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:12:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:12:31 0000 Received: (qmail 11083 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 18:12:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11025 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 18:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 18:12:42 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi138074.voyager.net [209.153.138.74]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id NAA00515 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:12:43 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:01:36 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000601be56ab$01e47ba0$0e0c7b8f@andrew> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: EPS images From: jack york Hello Andrew On 12-Feb-99, Andrew McCombe wrote: > From: "Andrew McCombe" > > try metaview - I think you have to register it to batch convert stuff, but > it does handle eps's. I installed it but it doesn't recognize the image. I get an unknown filetype message. The docs mention the program is able to convert to EPS but the list of types that can be read in doesn't include EPS. Were you able to get it to work for you? Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Feb 13 19:52:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1358-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 18:51:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:51:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:51:26 0000 Received: (qmail 4095 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 18:50:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 4082 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 18:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sheppard.torfree.net) (199.71.188.24) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 18:49:59 -0000 Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1605 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:52:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:52:06 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Pat Kushko On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Stephen Williams wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi y'all > > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. I live in a very dusty area and have to frequently turn the keyboard upside down and give it a hard shake to knock out the bread crumbs etc. I then use a Q-tip & rubbing alcohol or just a soft cloth damp with dish soap to mop up the remains. It looks like most of the grim on keyboards is a combination of human finger oils and hot dog splatters. When in real trouble... (I have to pull the key cap up... ) I use one of those IC chip removers and gently pry all the caps off... work each key until it looks brand new, Qtips usually do the rest.. and light wax for the sticky key. Disassembling a keyboard to clean out the dust bunnies once in a blue moon should be seen as a long term investment. Of course all of this is moot if you have a wedge designed keyboard:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Sat Feb 13 17:55:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1359-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 21:11:37 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:11:37 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:11:36 0000 Received: (qmail 4085 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 21:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31056 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 21:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 21:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22916 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15266 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 21:01:52 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-108.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.206.108) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 21:01:52 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 13 Feb 99 16:55:35 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Andy Kinsella" Stephen Williams said this... > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi y'all > > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. I use cotton wool and an alcohol solution. Works a treat. I once bought a used Amiga that was filthy. I had to completely strip it down and take off all the keys and throw the lot in the bathtub and get scrubbing 8] > -Stephen > -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From fosterb@voyager.net Sun Jan 31 01:26:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1209-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 01:27:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 01:27:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 01:27:14 0000 Received: (qmail 1600 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 01:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1593 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 01:25:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 01:25:01 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@flntmi142024.voyager.net [209.153.142.24]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id UAA22855 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Foster To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:26:52 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B39D3B.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Brian Foster Hello SANKEY On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: > From: "SANKEY" > > Hi, alll > I've been on this list for about a week, now, and I must > say, it's a bit quiet. --------- So, to liven things up a bit, I > thought I would run the following thought past You all :- > > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- > *THE INTERNET!!!!* With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be in trouble with or without the internet. It is a tribute to the machine's greatness that there is any user base at all. If anything the intermet saved the amiga because it kept a small core community of users together. Without the internet that community may not have existed at the time of the Gateway purchase and Gateway may have opted to take the patents and do nothing. Brian > Let's hope the NG Amiga is as "Kickass" as they say it will be. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 06 22:13:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1289-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 07 01:02:14 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:02:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:02:13 0000 Received: (qmail 22106 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 02:00:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 22098 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 02:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 02:00:08 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0189.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.189]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16192 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:59:00 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:13:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering In Secret From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 06-Feb-99, Rick Giles wrote: > From: Rick Giles > > It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 03-Feb-99: > > |>Yeah, like most things I write ;) > > I might have to agree... :) > |>> But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually > |>> do it, so it seems. > |>Nothing to do with filtering, but when Yam connects and says "Getting > |>statistics" [SNIP] > ))Ummm, I'll complete that - it crashes on some POP3 servers. > > Uhh, now I understand what you dudes were talking about. > Can't blame me for not knowing how it works, yam docs don't tell. Heh, yeah, this is related to bug in Yam that causes it to crash when you try to downloaed more than 60 mails. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15984 2^28 blocks done -- The Borg assimilated my race, and all I got was this lousy tagline. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Mon Feb 08 00:23:26 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1302-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:32:11 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:32:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:32:10 0000 Received: (qmail 2144 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 00:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2132 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 00:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 00:50:36 -0000 Received: from dialup-02-55.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-02-55.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.183]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14284 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:31:56 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 8 Feb 99 00:23:26 +0100 Message-Id: <36BE2E7E.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: "SANKEY" > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi SANKEY > > On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > > > Now ---- what's all this I have been reading, regarding a so called > > "protest" about BT phone charges????? > > All due respect, and all that --- BUT, a one day strike !!!!! Do Me a > > favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! > > This has been planned for weeks, maybe months. An organisation called > unmetred.org trying to get rid of all the per minute charges, like most > american phone companies have > > Regards > -- > HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ > Matthew O'Neill - MashMan > > Yeh, that's the one I was reading about. The instigator was someone who was fed up paying 700 quid per quarter for his web calls -- right? A few things spring to mind here :- 1/ He should try to get out more --- it's a BIG world out there. 2/ His intentions may well be sound, but the methods? Nah, not a chance!! All that will happen, is people will "double up" the next Sunday, or even worse, go on - line the following day (at peak time!!) When will we Brits learn that the Internet is a tool, AND NOT a substitute for a social life ? BT will laugh all the way to the bank, until some PROPER competition comes along. 3/ If an American phone company charged the ammounts BT charged, do You think the Yanks would call a one day Internet strike? NO they would be laying Capitol Hill to siege !!! and banging on Billy boys' door (WITHOUT the "kneepads on :-)) If it happened in France, there would be riots in the streets, and barricades at the ports -- In Britain ---- a one day strike (yawn!!!) A far better approach, in My opinoin would be to unplug the modem from the computer for, not just a day ---BUT FOR *AT LEAST* THREE MONTHS!! THEN see BT come up with a better deal for us all --- they've gotten away with it for far too long now. It may seem a bit of a drastic measure, but, as the saying goes "No pain -- no gain" But, I honestly can't see it happening, at least not for a while, and not by what the people of Britain are prepared to do about it. Just a few comments to "keep the pot boiling" :-) Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon Feb 08 01:18:59 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1303-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:33:53 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:33:53 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:33:53 0000 Received: (qmail 5480 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 00:31:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5402 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 00:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 00:31:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 24406 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 00:32:51 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 00:32:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 10247 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 00:32:50 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-225.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.206.225) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 00:32:50 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 8 Feb 99 00:18:59 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Andy Kinsella" Matthew O'Neill said this... > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Hilda > > On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > > >> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner > >> by chance :)? > > > Nope! > > > Hildy > > A single redhead with an Amiga :) > > Is it true that women with read hair also....... > > ;) It's true that blokes with red hair have big. . . . . .;) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From drstrange@jps.net Sat Feb 06 07:45:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1270-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 07:50:30 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:50:30 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:50:30 0000 Received: (qmail 19268 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 07:48:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19242 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 07:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.jps.net) (209.63.224.235) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 07:48:04 -0000 Received: from jps.net (209-209-18-55.lax.jps.net [209.209.18.55]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00322 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:50:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:45:18 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint loaders From: Mark Tierno Hello Andrew On 05-Feb-99, Andrew Lowes wrote: > From: Andrew Lowes > > Does anybody know why the Personal Paint Gif loader/saver has been removed > from the Aminet? Probably because GIF is a proprietary format which is now being enforced by the copyright owners; you can't use it in a program anymore unless you pay a fee. A lot of programs have been taking out their GIF support because of this and going to PNG. I'm surprised that it wasn't removed from Aminet earlier. -LAter -- Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 06 01:46:19 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1282-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:51:46 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:44 0000 Received: (qmail 1317 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1193 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 22:09:58 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.88] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:30 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B4A337.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "Chris Seward" On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > *CURSES!!!!!!* got Me on that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) > But the Aminet is out on a regular basis, on CD? Ermm excuse me mr.mistake but how do you think aminet is produced? it is an online source, people upload, so how to you suggest the Aminet CD is produced if we all hadn't got online like you think would have been better for the Amiga? Right people buy the CD and don't have internet connection, but who is providing the files to ONLINE aminet? You are crazy! Bibi! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 07 18:32:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1295-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:36:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:36:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:36:08 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) id QQgbou04855 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14956 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 21:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14894 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 21:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 21:11:39 -0000 Received: from modem-70.tailor.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.123.198] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109bRr-0008VB-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:08:59 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:32:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Hilda On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: >> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner >> by chance :)? > Nope! > Hildy > A single redhead with an Amiga :) Is it true that women with read hair also....... ;) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Jan 31 15:45:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1266-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 00:16:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:31 0000 Received: (qmail 13543 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 00:18:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13494 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.116] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:21 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:45:04 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] How to submit to Yahoo? From: "Chris Seward" Ok. Ok. this isn't really Amiga related but does anyone know how to submit sites to Yahoo? the .com site, I can't seem to find any option except help on submitting but that doesn't actually say where to go or click. I need to sumbit the AIO site as soon as i get the registered domain and another -secret- site that i'm working on ;) shhhh. nudge, nudge, wink, wink :) You'll find out soon enough..... Any help is greatly welcome! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Feb 07 22:37:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1300-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:46:01 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:46:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:46:01 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) id QQgbpa07231 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31482 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 22:41:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 31460 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 22:41:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 22:41:36 -0000 Received: from dialup-13-30.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-13-30.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.231.94]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08111 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:44:28 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 7 Feb 99 22:37:29 +0100 Message-Id: <36BE15A9.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "SANKEY" > From: Erik Bruser > > Hello Chris > > On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > > > From: "Chris Seward" > > > > On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > > > >> From: Lisa Purcell > >> > >> Hello > >> I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! > >> I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? > >> Where and how to I get it? > >> How do I use it? > >> Many thanks > >> -Lisa > > > > This question has already been answer but i'll put it in my words :) > > > > Telnet is a form of connecting two computer terminals over the internet, > > when logging onto the internet you are given an IP address, this > > can be Static (same each time you logon) or dynamic (Changes each > > time) - It is sort of like a telephone number which locates you on the > > internet and where all things you do and request are sent to. > > > > With telnet you would connect to another computer terminal at > > their IP address, eg 64.222.531.224 - Telnetting has many uses, > > but really you should only use it if you have a certain purpose for > > doing so, this is usually access to Bulletin Board Systems etc > > to gain files, these are open to anyone but it is rare to find a > > BBS connected 24hours. You can also connect to other terminals > > like Shells. These are usually PC or Unix based systems. > > > > Unless you have a reason for connecting to some other computer > > on the internet then this isn't really an important part of the > > internet. > > > > Regards! > > The main reason one needs telnet is because many providers require it to > upload webpages for websites. > Regards > -- > ErikB > > Also, does it not have it's uses in allowing access to One's mailserver, to delete mails from there ? Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 06 11:22:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1271-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 11:42:50 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:42:50 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:42:50 0000 Received: (qmail 22649 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 11:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 22643 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 11:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 11:42:32 -0000 Received: from modem-60.manisyl.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.77.188] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109689-0003EG-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:42:33 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: How to submit to Yahoo? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > Ok. Ok. this isn't really Amiga related but does anyone know how to > submit sites to Yahoo? the .com site, I can't seem to find any option > except help on submitting but that doesn't actually say where to > go or click. I can't find it at all! a few years ago there wa a link called submit which took you straight to the form, but no more. I recommend doing a search on "submit" you will get a couple of dodgey ones, but the rest will be free sites where you enter the details and it will submit your site to every search engine going. beware of the ones which charge you! Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Mon Feb 08 01:44:09 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1304-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:47:08 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:47:08 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:47:08 0000 Received: (qmail 32387 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 1999 00:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 32373 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1999 00:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 00:47:18 -0000 Received: from (p58.nas1.is3.u-net.net) [195.102.196.58] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 109eqc-0007WL-00; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:46:46 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 8 Feb 99 00:44:09 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Nick Bergquist" > From: Erik Bruser > > Hello Matthew > > On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > > > From: Matthew O'Neill > > > > Hi Hilda > > > > On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > > > >>> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner > >>> by chance :)? > > > >> Nope! > > > >> Hildy > >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) > > > > Is it true that women with read hair also....... > > > > ;) > > > > Regards > > I thought this was -Just amiga- not -Lonely singles making out via > e-mail- > Regards > -- > ErikB Ah... but the thing is we're all gaga now 'cos Hildy describes herself as 'A single redhead with an Amiga' - funny though 'cos I could have sworn that you said your husband had a passion for his mainframe a couple of mails back Hildy!? Nick - a scruffy brown-hair bloke with an Amiga... BTW EricB you're not my long lost brother of the same name? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From paul@kernow.net Sat Feb 06 13:00:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1272-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 12:03:55 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:03:55 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:03:54 0000 Received: (qmail 15144 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 12:00:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15081 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 12:00:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kernow.net) (195.89.138.130) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 12:00:40 -0000 Received: from leo.internet-place.co.uk(really [195.89.138.147]) by kernow.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1997-Feb-9) Received: by leo.internet-place.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE51C8.3B2D82E0@leo.internet-place.co.uk>; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:00:04 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE51C8.3B2D82E0@leo.internet-place.co.uk> From: Paul Venton To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:00:02 -0000 Encoding: 48 TEXT, 67 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: How to submit to Yahoo? From: Paul Venton Hello To submit on Yahoo! you need to first be in a category that relates to the submission. Then you will see the infamous Add URL button. If you need any help, let me know. I have submitted our business sites to many, many search engines. The best/quickest/easiest appears to be Alta Vista. Bye for now Paul -----Original Message----- From: Matthew O'Neill [SMTP:mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 10:22 AM To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: How to submit to Yahoo? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > Ok. Ok. this isn't really Amiga related but does anyone know how to > submit sites to Yahoo? the .com site, I can't seem to find any option > except help on submitting but that doesn't actually say where to > go or click. I can't find it at all! a few years ago there wa a link called submit which took you straight to the form, but no more. I recommend doing a search on "submit" you will get a couple of dodgey ones, but the rest will be free sites where you enter the details and it will submit your site to every search engine going. beware of the ones which charge you! Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@0,`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`M $```$````0`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````2P`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````&IU``$P`0```!D````G:G5S="UA;6EG84!O;F5L:7-T+F-O M;2<``````@$+, $````<````4TU44#I*55-4+4%-24=!0$].14Q)4U0N0T]- M``,``#D`````"P! .@$````>`/9?`0```!<```!J=7-T+6%M:6=A0&]N96QI M`' ``0`` M`"T```!213H@6VIU M`!X,`0````4```!33510`````!X`'PP!````$ ```'!A=6Q :V5R;F]W+FYE M= `#``80$Y:)3@,`!Q!!!0``'@`($ $```!E````2$5,3$]43U-50DU)5$]. 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"" &``````# ````````1@`````.A0````````,`$8 (( 8` M`````, ```````!&`````!"%`````````P`2@ @@!@``````P ```````$8` M````$84````````#`!6 "" &``````# ````````1@`````8A0```````!X` M)8 (( 8``````, ```````!&`````#:%```!`````0`````````>`": "" & M``````# ````````1@`````WA0```0````$`````````'@`G@ @@!@`````` MP ```````$8`````.(4```$````!`````````!X`/0`!````!0```%)%.B ` -`````P`--/TW```.0H4` ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 07 23:26:29 1999 >From Bruser@xs4all.nl Mon Feb 08 00:51:32 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:51:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:51:31 0000 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl by relay2.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) id QQgbpa02247 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1538.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.2]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05241; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:30:16 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: "Chris Seward" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:26:29 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello Chris On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: "Chris Seward" > > On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > >> From: Lisa Purcell >> >> Hello >> I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! >> I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? >> Where and how to I get it? >> How do I use it? >> Many thanks >> -Lisa > > This question has already been answer but i'll put it in my words :) > > Telnet is a form of connecting two computer terminals over the internet, > when logging onto the internet you are given an IP address, this > can be Static (same each time you logon) or dynamic (Changes each > time) - It is sort of like a telephone number which locates you on the > internet and where all things you do and request are sent to. > > With telnet you would connect to another computer terminal at > their IP address, eg 64.222.531.224 - Telnetting has many uses, > but really you should only use it if you have a certain purpose for > doing so, this is usually access to Bulletin Board Systems etc > to gain files, these are open to anyone but it is rare to find a > BBS connected 24hours. You can also connect to other terminals > like Shells. These are usually PC or Unix based systems. > > Unless you have a reason for connecting to some other computer > on the internet then this isn't really an important part of the > internet. > > Regards! The main reason one needs telnet is because many providers require it to upload webpages for websites. Regards -- ErikB From buckingham84@yahoo.com Sat Feb 06 13:07:54 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1273-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 12:07:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:07:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:07:32 0000 Received: (qmail 32605 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 12:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 32599 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 12:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web311.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 12:25:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990206120754.29174.rocketmail@web311.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.216.120.24] by web311.yahoomail.com; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 04:07:54 PST Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 04:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Buckingham To: BuiltWithAmiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Copying problem From: Richard Buckingham Every time I try to copy a disk I keep getting an error message saying "Error on destination disk" then " Error validating disk Key 1587 ckecksum error." I have formatted the disks and I have tried quite a few different disks. Could anyone email me back if they knoy the answer. Thank you very much. Richard Buckingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 07 23:22:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1297-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:51:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:51:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:51:34 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) id QQgboz01623 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16438 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 22:28:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16427 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 22:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 22:28:23 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1538.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.2]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03143; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:26:19 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Andrew McCombe Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:22:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000a01be51d2$f27098c0$0e0c7b8f@andrew> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Copying problem From: Erik Bruser Hello Andrew On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: "Andrew McCombe" > > > >> Every time I try to copy a disk I keep getting an error message saying >> "Error on destination disk" then " Error validating disk Key 1587 >> ckecksum error." I have formatted the disks and I have tried quite a >> few different disks. Could anyone email me back if they knoy the >> answer. > > > may be a fault on the floppy drive, the heads are faulty - tryied a > different drive? > > Or worse... some old virus like lamer exterminator or saddam virus.... these viruses gave those problems. however this was pre-3.0.... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > Regards -- ErikB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sun Feb 07 12:34:55 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1293-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 00:54:19 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:54:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:54:19 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) id QQgbnk08770 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31354 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 12:12:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 31343 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 12:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 12:12:48 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0430.claranet.co.uk [195.8.90.176]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20310 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:08:06 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:34:55 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BCF329.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 07-Feb-99, SANKEY wrote: [SNIP] >> Moan over! > > Yeh, --- for now, just wait 'til c & d part 3 :-) Quick, postban him! We can't have any debate on a mailing list! ;) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 16025 2^28 blocks done -- Quotes from CVs (#10): "Am a perfectionist and rarely if if ever forget details." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Feb 12 17:21:41 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1344-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 02:22:53 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:22:53 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:22:52 0000 Received: (qmail 6752 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 02:21:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6736 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 02:21:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 02:21:47 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00429 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-36.digital.net [208.14.41.36]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA13947 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: jam Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:21:41 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] 4.5gigs From: ken Is anyone using a 4.5 gig Quantum HD on their a3k ? I just picked one up today, but had no idea 4 gig was the max. I ran across something called giga.device on aminet, says the big drive needs to be dev 0. Thats all fine and good, but my a3k looks at dev0 to boot from. I've tried hooking a system up to a floppy, a 100 meg hd, and a 1.3 gig (almost shot Quantum HD). The 100 is dev 6, the 1.3 gig also is dev 6. giga device (until registered can only access as dev/unit 0.. Anyone else hooked up with a gig drive over 4 gigs ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ja49@rapid.co.uk Sat Feb 06 13:44:03 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1274-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 12:45:05 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:45:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:45:04 0000 Received: (qmail 24051 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 12:46:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24042 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 12:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gandalf.rapid.co.uk) (195.188.0.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 12:46:31 -0000 Received: from rapid.co.uk (modem133.rapid.co.uk [195.188.2.22]) by gandalf.rapid.co.uk (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00168 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:51:09 GMT From: Jimothy To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:44:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: How to submit to Yahoo? From: Jimothy Hi Matthew On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Matthew O'Neill > Hi Chris > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: >> Ok. Ok. this isn't really Amiga related but does anyone know how to >> submit sites to Yahoo? the .com site, I can't seem to find any option >> except help on submitting but that doesn't actually say where to >> go or click. You can register your site with ukplus really easy, just click on the Add A Site button and fill in the form also you get the option to register with many other search engines at the same time. Also Yahoo is quite straightforward just make sure that you are in the catagory which best fits your site then click Add Url. Good Luck Jim #www.users.rapid.co.uk/ja49# ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From instantprint@allcomm.co.uk Sat Feb 06 14:16:42 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1275-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 13:14:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:14:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:14:50 0000 Received: (qmail 19338 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 13:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19333 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 13:28:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brains.allcomm.co.uk) (195.74.100.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 13:28:51 -0000 Received: from andrew (dial26.allcomm.co.uk [195.74.100.90]) by brains.allcomm.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12830 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:19:23 GMT Message-ID: <000a01be51d2$f27098c0$0e0c7b8f@andrew> From: "Andrew McCombe" To: Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:16:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Copying problem From: "Andrew McCombe" >Every time I try to copy a disk I keep getting an error message saying >"Error on destination disk" then " Error validating disk Key 1587 >ckecksum error." I have formatted the disks and I have tried quite a >few different disks. Could anyone email me back if they knoy the >answer. may be a fault on the floppy drive, the heads are faulty - tryied a different drive? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Feb 06 16:34:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1276-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 15:35:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:35:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:35:23 0000 Received: (qmail 3499 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 15:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 3479 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 15:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 15:37:18 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max10-092.enterprise.net [194.72.199.92]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05051 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:35:12 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:34:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990206120754.29174.rocketmail@web311.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Copying problem From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > From: Richard Buckingham > Every time I try to copy a disk I keep getting an error message saying > "Error on destination disk" then " Error validating disk Key 1587 > ckecksum error." I have formatted the disks and I have tried quite a > few different disks. Could anyone email me back if they knoy the > answer. > Thank you very much. > Richard Buckingham What are you using? Disk copy? It is a DOS disk your trying to copy isn't it? Have you tried copying all the files from one disk to your harddrive, and then copying them all back onto a blank disk? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. Hogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 06 05:25:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1277-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 16:45:45 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:45 0000 Received: (qmail 9088 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 16:46:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8950 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 16:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 16:46:09 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p029.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.93]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id FAA18536; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:45:29 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Loki Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:25:39 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM... From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Loki wrote on 04-Feb-99: Thomas Hurst just sent me an interesting message in our list that might change this one to you I'd already written. It seems possible that the filtering does happen on the server and that there is no way of knowing it worked without outside help. The filter button on main screen dosn't do anything. Time will tell me if it's true. |> I only joined the list a while ago, and there has been a lot of mails |>posted about using Filters in YAM. I`m using YAMP6 here, and I've only been joined one or maybe two weeks myself and the first thing I remember doing is bringing up this question. Even though I've grabed the latest aminet YAM13_5.lha (YAM 1.3.5) it just dosn't work. But it's really easy to operate! |>every single one of my filters works beautifully. I did have |>some problems with a Remote filler I made to remove mail off my |>server from me to mailing lists, to save downloading my own mails. |>But I sorted that too! Well that sounds even better! You've missed nothing, if you wouldn't mind telling me how to remove them directly then I'm in business. ps Does your yam deal with over 60 messages? I think it was when I got 170 one day that I first tryed using it. Could be wrong, but now I have 10/20 it sure dosn't work. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- That which does not kill me makes me smarter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 06 05:31:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1278-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 16:45:45 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:45 0000 Received: (qmail 19224 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 16:47:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19219 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 16:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 16:47:21 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p029.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.93]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id FAA18541; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:45:32 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:31:29 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 03-Feb-99: |>> But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually |>> do it, so it seems. |>yeah, filtering happens offline, after the download is complete. unless you |>mean the type where it happens server side, like spam filtering etc. Thomas Hurst suggests that yam tells the server to do it. Yam suggests that it does it, by the press of its button. Except it never acts. I suggest that my filters have been working since the deselected subjects havn't appeared in the amiga mail list recently. You swing things back again. If it is indeed done offline and so isn't working at all I don't really care. The object of my plan is now to have what you call 'spam filtering' because I really care about wasting online time and it would be better not to have to retrieve something in order to destroy it. So if you can help there, please do. Or is it something you have to pay the isp to do? Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The future's not set and the end is always near. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 06 22:11:05 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1288-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 07 01:01:57 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:01:57 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:01:55 0000 Received: (qmail 27791 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 01:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27771 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 01:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 01:20:10 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0189.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.189]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16158 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:58:41 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:11:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 06-Feb-99, Rick Giles wrote: > It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 03-Feb-99: > > > |>> But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually > |>> do it, so it seems. > |>yeah, filtering happens offline, after the download is complete. unless you > |>mean the type where it happens server side, like spam filtering etc. > > Thomas Hurst suggests that yam tells the server to do it. When? Server side filtering is very simple, and mainly designed for killing spam, irritating posts from people you don't like etc. It does this by using the TOP command to download headers and deciding what to do with the mail depending on what your filter does. > Yam suggests that it does it, by the press of its button. Except > it never acts. It won't work if your POP3 server doesn't support the TOP command. moving mail won't work, either, as stated in the docs. > You swing things back again. If it is indeed done offline and so > isn't working at all I don't really care. [...] Filtering into different folders occurs after disconnecting from the server, yes. > So if you can help there, please do. Or is it something you have > to pay the isp to do? If it doesn't work, chances are your POP3 server doesn't support the TOP command - bug your ISP about it. Some ISP's support automatic server-side filtering, which is handy for killing posts from irritating people. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15984 2^28 blocks done -- Programming errors which would normally require one day to find will take five days when the programmer is in a hurry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 06 05:33:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1279-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 16:45:49 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:45:49 0000 Received: (qmail 9664 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 17:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 9652 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 17:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 17:04:03 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p029.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.93]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id FAA18546; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:45:36 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Thomas Hurst Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:33:37 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Filtering In Secret From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 03-Feb-99: |>Yeah, like most things I write ;) I might have to agree... |>> But dosn't the filtering happen offline? The isp dosn't actually |>> do it, so it seems. |>Nothing to do with filtering, but when Yam connects and says "Getting |>statistics" If that's true then how do I know it's not working, maybe it has been. I'll just have to see if any declined message subjects are through and let you know! I do know that there is a filter button on the main screen and that it never does anything to the current messages. I can see no trace of towerization or of DTP suggestions since my last mail run on 2nd of feb. It might be working after all! You'll have to tell me if this is a fact though. ))Ummm, I'll complete that - it crashes on some POP3 servers. Uhh, now I understand what you dudes were talking about. Can't blame me for not knowing how it works, yam docs don't tell. Yeah, I do think it might be working for me after all. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The future's not set and the end is always near. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From malky@nobleone.u-net.com Sat Feb 06 09:10:46 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1280-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 17:48:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:48:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:48:17 0000 Received: (qmail 3043 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 17:45:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 2723 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is4.u-net.net) (195.102.240.252) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from p103.nas1.is4.u-net.net [195.102.198.103] (malky) by serv1.is4.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 109Boc-00042g-00; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:46:47 +0000 From: "Malcolm Harnden" Organization: A4000 040/40Mhz PPC200Mhz CVPPC User http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Date: 6 Feb 99 08:10:46 +0000 X-Face: #5A^%~r~O5\5q,N}k*W3cw&!4,T%8,*s7U3r3@P(jYTrfOy8bd=xYgoI3)q[rXYD3+[_5~KHA.,+H2*@'=LB0wJQGCap9hEC_Os\Oy}!4v7-y6^Gg(uoNFg9^5,F[W{M'HIg1Jh;,8HJ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0a Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: How to submit to Yahoo? From: "Malcolm Harnden" Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:45:04 +0100 [just-amiga] How to submit to Yahoo? Hi Chris Seward This *PPC* owner and program buyer reply`s to your.... ------------------------------------------------------ > From: "Chris Seward" > > Ok. Ok. this isn't really Amiga related but does anyone know how to > submit sites to Yahoo? the .com site, I can't seem to find any option > except help on submitting but that doesn't actually say where to > go or click. > > I need to sumbit the AIO site as soon as i get the registered domain > and another -secret- site that i'm working on ;) shhhh. nudge, nudge, > wink, wink :) You'll find out soon enough..... > > Any help is greatly welcome! Cannot remember the url but try http://www.register.it or similar. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Malcolm Harnden *PPC* software support will be met with *MONEY* from the _PPC_ user named below. Visit My WebSite at:- http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Email me at:- malky@nobleone.u-net.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Sat Feb 06 21:17:56 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1290-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 07 01:58:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:58:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:58:24 0000 Received: (qmail 29382 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 01:59:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 29347 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 01:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 01:59:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 13298 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 01:58:09 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 01:58:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2473 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 01:58:08 -0000 Received: from tnt-3-157.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.202.157) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 01:58:08 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 6 Feb 99 20:17:56 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering In Secret From: "Andy Kinsella" Rick Giles said this... > From: Rick Giles > I can see no trace of towerization or of DTP suggestions since > my last mail run on 2nd of feb. > It might be working after all! You'll have to tell me if this > is a fact though. I'm sorry if I have missed somewhat here; but why would you want to filter out those subjects? Subjects often change without people actually changing the subject line; and you could be missing something usefull. . . -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Feb 07 01:58:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1291-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 07 02:05:50 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:05:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:05:50 0000 Received: (qmail 3323 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 02:02:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3175 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 02:02:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 02:02:36 -0000 Received: from dialup-07-30.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-07-30.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.229.222]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08716 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:05:27 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 7 Feb 99 01:58:01 +0100 Message-Id: <36BCF329.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: "Chris Seward" > > Someone fill in his name, sharkey or shanky.. whatever! It's Sankey ------- *MISTER* Sankey to You, dude !!!!!!!! :-) > > machine with only the internet in mind. Not quite the same glow of > > satisfaction there is there? I know there are valid reasons why the > > software isn't up to scratch, even the hadware is a bit "flakey" , in > > as much as You need to bolt things on, in a heath robinsonesque way. > > But, giving reasons why, doesn't alter the fact that the internet (I > > feel) has done more harm, than good to the amiga community. It's a bit > > I don't really see where you are basing your facts. What's the phrase I am looking for here ? --- Ah yes ---" There are none so blind as those who will not see" If You look at the subject line above, it reads "controversy & *debate" Now, I won't insult Your intelligence, by writing the definition of "debate", just try to keep up with the next installment ---- coming to a monitor near You REAL SOON !!!!!!!!!!!!! (Entitled C & D PART 3) You won't like THAT ONE, I don't think !!!!!!!!!!!! > > They are just a very few... sor first before you open your mouth check > that what your saying is at least a bit correct. I won't even dignify that last comment with a reply > > > Talking of the Amiga community, does it annoy anyone else when You see > > an article in the Amiga press that goes along the lines of "I have > > this A500, with 1meg ram, and a broken mouse, and dirty keyboard. I am > > Hmm, doesn't this paragraph always end up in Amiga format? I think > Mr.Shankey/Sharkey has been doing a bit of copying. Sly. D'ya know, I knew --- just *KNEW* as I was writing that last bit, about the non - upgraders, that I had heard it /somewhere/ before thanks for letting Me know --- I must re-read all the old issues again to see what I can come up with next time for You :-) > > Moan over! Yeh, --- for now, just wait 'til c & d part 3 :-) Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Sun Feb 07 03:50:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1292-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 07 03:17:11 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:17:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:17:10 0000 Received: (qmail 23176 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 03:29:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22505 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 03:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.primenet.com) (206.165.6.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 03:29:19 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03551 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:14:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-105.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.105), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd003540; Sat Feb 6 20:14:25 1999 From: Hilda To: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:50:52 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 05-Feb-99, Chris Seward is alleged to have said... >From: "Chris Seward" >> Hildy >Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner >by chance :)? Nope! Hildy A single redhead with an Amiga :) -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 07 23:26:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1299-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 01:38:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:38:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:38:34 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) id QQgbpa12147 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13124 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 22:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12971 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 22:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 22:48:55 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1538.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.2]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05241; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:30:16 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: "Chris Seward" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:26:29 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Erik Bruser Hello Chris On 06-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: "Chris Seward" > > On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > >> From: Lisa Purcell >> >> Hello >> I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! >> I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? >> Where and how to I get it? >> How do I use it? >> Many thanks >> -Lisa > > This question has already been answer but i'll put it in my words :) > > Telnet is a form of connecting two computer terminals over the internet, > when logging onto the internet you are given an IP address, this > can be Static (same each time you logon) or dynamic (Changes each > time) - It is sort of like a telephone number which locates you on the > internet and where all things you do and request are sent to. > > With telnet you would connect to another computer terminal at > their IP address, eg 64.222.531.224 - Telnetting has many uses, > but really you should only use it if you have a certain purpose for > doing so, this is usually access to Bulletin Board Systems etc > to gain files, these are open to anyone but it is rare to find a > BBS connected 24hours. You can also connect to other terminals > like Shells. These are usually PC or Unix based systems. > > Unless you have a reason for connecting to some other computer > on the internet then this isn't really an important part of the > internet. > > Regards! The main reason one needs telnet is because many providers require it to upload webpages for websites. Regards -- ErikB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Feb 07 23:21:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1341-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 00:10:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:32 0000 Received: (qmail 19703 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19553 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:21 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:21:35 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Microsoft Outlook Express HTML off? From: "Chris Seward" A friend has really started to annoy me with his stupid Microsoft Outlook Express program, it sends a copy of his message in HTML like Gavin Williams, anyway looking through the past JUST-AMiGA archives I can't seem to find the message that told him how to turn it off, I'd appreciate it if someone could email me privately to let me know what menu etc it is in so I can get him to turn it off. Don't want to rubbish the list with PC trash so email me at *amiga@thefree.net* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Feb 07 22:34:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1342-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 00:10:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:35 0000 Received: (qmail 19735 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19514 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 00:09:34 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:19 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:34:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BCF329.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "Chris Seward" On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > It's Sankey ------- *MISTER* Sankey to You, dude !!!!!!!! :-) Ok, then mr. shankey. Sorry about the mistake first time, oh laugh laugh, i'm just soooo f-u-n-n-y... i think not! > What's the phrase I am looking for here ? --- Ah yes ---" There are > none so blind as those who will not see" If You look at the subject > line above, it reads "controversy & *debate" Now, I won't insult Your > intelligence, by writing the definition of "debate", just try to keep Hmm debate, people talking and giving ideas about a certain topic, debating.. well when I debate i usually say things that ring maybe just a little tiny bit true. > up with the next installment ---- coming to a monitor near You > REAL SOON !!!!!!!!!!!!! (Entitled C & D PART 3) You won't like > THAT ONE, I don't think !!!!!!!!!!!! I am always re-assured because I have the ban button, now we wouldn't want it to come to that, kidding! don't take this too seriously kids. > I won't even dignify that last comment with a reply I bet thats nice for you? > D'ya know, I knew --- just *KNEW* as I was writing that last bit, > about the non - upgraders, that I had heard it /somewhere/ before > thanks for letting Me know --- I must re-read all the old issues again > to see what I can come up with next time for You :-) Well when i buy the LATEST copy I normally read it, thats what you do you know, shock horror, have you just woke up and realised what the AF is for? well you don't have to read old issues to notice they say that nearly every issue. > Yeh, --- for now, just wait 'til c & d part 3 :-) Well Swankey, we can all be sarcastic b'stards now and again so in the old school teacher phrase, "don't try and be clever with me" I'll just crawl back under my stone now thankyou :) -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 06 01:43:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1281-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:51:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:42 0000 Received: (qmail 1130 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 1124 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 22:09:55 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.88] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:26 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B49E71.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "Chris Seward" Someone fill in his name, sharkey or shanky.. whatever! > machine with only the internet in mind. Not quite the same glow of > satisfaction there is there? I know there are valid reasons why the > software isn't up to scratch, even the hadware is a bit "flakey" , in > as much as You need to bolt things on, in a heath robinsonesque way. > But, giving reasons why, doesn't alter the fact that the internet (I > feel) has done more harm, than good to the amiga community. It's a bit I don't really see where you are basing your facts. The internet is a savour for the Amiga, firstly, things like Team *Amiga* along with many mailing lists etc would not run. Amiga users would still be sending off a few quid in a piece of card to PD librarys to get less files for more money than they could from the internet. Online magazine would not exist which would only leave Amiga format and the odd other printed mail order mags. You could not meet Amiga buffs on irc, post costs alot more in the long run and takes alot longer. You can get beta testers and have a reply within days instead of weeks or months. They are just a very few... sor first before you open your mouth check that what your saying is at least a bit correct. > Talking of the Amiga community, does it annoy anyone else when You see > an article in the Amiga press that goes along the lines of "I have > this A500, with 1meg ram, and a broken mouse, and dirty keyboard. I am Hmm, doesn't this paragraph always end up in Amiga format? I think Mr.Shankey/Sharkey has been doing a bit of copying. Sly. Moan over! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 06 01:58:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1283-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:51:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:47 0000 Received: (qmail 1412 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 22:10:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1312 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 22:09:59 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.88] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:34 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:58:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Chris Seward" > Hildy Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner by chance :)? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 06 01:53:40 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1284-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:51:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:49 0000 Received: (qmail 1431 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 22:10:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1283 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 22:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 22:09:59 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.88] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:32 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:53:40 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Chris Seward" On 01-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Lisa Purcell > > Hello > I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! > I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? > Where and how to I get it? > How do I use it? > Many thanks > -Lisa This question has already been answer but i'll put it in my words :) Telnet is a form of connecting two computer terminals over the internet, when logging onto the internet you are given an IP address, this can be Static (same each time you logon) or dynamic (Changes each time) - It is sort of like a telephone number which locates you on the internet and where all things you do and request are sent to. With telnet you would connect to another computer terminal at their IP address, eg 64.222.531.224 - Telnetting has many uses, but really you should only use it if you have a certain purpose for doing so, this is usually access to Bulletin Board Systems etc to gain files, these are open to anyone but it is rare to find a BBS connected 24hours. You can also connect to other terminals like Shells. These are usually PC or Unix based systems. Unless you have a reason for connecting to some other computer on the internet then this isn't really an important part of the internet. Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 06 19:11:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1285-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:51:56 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:55 0000 Received: (qmail 1954 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 22:10:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1935 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 22:10:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 22:10:10 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.88] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:51:47 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:11:57 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] !!!Kournikova Heaven OPEN!!! From: "Chris Seward" Ok, this isn't Amiga related but its my first attempt at HTML and was made on an Amiga so here goes.... Kournikova Heaven is a new web page dedicated to the 17 year old teen sensation tennis player, Anna Kournikova, born in Russia, now lives in the USA she is one of the best looking tennis players and people in the world, check out my page at :- *http://members.xoom.com/anna_net/* plenty of pictures online, comments welcome! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 06 21:40:10 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1286-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 21:53:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:53:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:53:09 0000 Received: (qmail 18907 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 21:52:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 18307 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 21:52:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 21:52:26 -0000 Received: from modem-48.erythromycin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.65.176] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109Fe6-0004RW-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:52:11 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM... +(Tutorial) From: Loki Hello Rick Hiya, Rick... ,on 06-Feb-99 you wrote me about [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM...! :) RG>> Well that sounds even better! RG>> You've missed nothing, if you wouldn't mind telling me how to RG>> remove them directly then I'm in business. Ok, here I`m going to explain it simply for those of you having problems or those who dont know how to use filters in YAM. (Please ignore all this if you know what ya doing :) eheheheh, this is for the newbies and the people who cant get the filters working.) B4 I start, I`m using YAM2.0Preview6 (thats what it says in the About req.) If you are using an earlier version, I suggest you d/l this version, cus it`s cool! If you are using a later version (I think this is the latest tho, maybe not? Then thats even better.) Now, the way I see it, the filters get executed in order down the filters list, so you have to be careful with them. Creating filters for mailing lists and similar: o Open the preferences. Goto the `Folders' section. o Click the new button and type a directory name in the requester. This will be the name of the dir in your YAM: assign. When you press enter, it should come up as the `Path', you can then change the `Name' to anything you want, and it wont affect things, the name is what you will see in the folders section of the main window. :) But for example, lets do a JustAmiga filter, so put `JustAmiga' for the /Path/ and `Just Amiga' for the /Name/. o Leave all of the options as they are, unless you want the folder to be encrypted? (Maybe it`s personal and you dont want anybody else to be able to read it?) This option is esspecially cool for those of you who share the email account with other family members' IE, say your brother was: john@thehouse.demon.co.uk, and you are bob@thehouse.demon.co.uk, you could have mail to your address encrypt and filter to your own folder, and he would have to put in a password to be able to read it. To do this, change the `Mode' to `Compressed with password.'. But as it`s JustAmiga, you dont need to change it. o Now, if this IS a mailing-list filter we are creating,.(hyperthetically) in the `To: address' field, you can put the address of the mailing list in here, then if you have the list name highlighted in the main-window, when you hit the `Write' message button, the message will automatically have the To: field filled in. But as this is the JustAmiga we are doing, put `JustAmiga ' in the field. o Now goto the `Filters' section, and hit the `New' button. Change the name to `JustAmiga' and make sure only `Apply to new mail' and `Apply on request' are selected. Then click the `Comparison' tab. this is where you tell YAM what messages will be affected by this filter. For the JustAmiga filter, change the `Search in' cycle to: `To field' (this is because, all mail sent TO the Just Amiga list, will have just-amiga@onelist.com in the To: header.). So put `just-amiga@onelist.com' in the feild. `Substring search' will check the entire field for the string. For example: if you were doing a Subject search. and you put `Amiga' in the field, something like `The *Amiga* is cool' for the Subject of the message would be affected, where as without `Substring search' enabled, only the subject `Amiga' would get affected. But as this is the JustAmiga filter, leave it unselected. `Address' checks the address for the string (So make sure it is selected for mailing lists). `Name' will check the actual name of the person who sent the message, (IE this one would be `Loki') :).__ _SO:_ make sure we have: `Search in'=`To field' the type to `=' the string as `just-amiga@onelist.com' and `address' selected. Oh and `don`t combine' o Ok, now click the `Action' tab, This is where you have to figure what will happen to mails of this filter! For mailing lists you will want the `Move' button checked, and then click the pop gadget next to it and select the folder you want it moved to. That`s `JustAmiga' for this filter,.. From here, you can do loads of different things to your mail,. such as, auto reply with a text, or file. execute a command, etc. NOTE: if you select `Delete' with this type of filter, the message will be downloaded and then moved you your `Deleted' trashcan. o Oh yeah, you can save now :) Filters to delete mail remotly off the server: o Open the preferences and goto the `Filters' section. o Click the `New' button and hit the `Options' tab. Give your filter a name (lets do one to delete the just-amiga mail, ehehehe, just as an example). So give it the name `Just Amiga Delete' and click the `Remote filter' button. This should blank out all the rest of the options. o Goto the `Comparison' tab and set all the options in it the same as the example above. o Now click the `Action' tab and you will have a limited range of options availible. But click the `delete' option to automatically delete off the server, without downloading. o If you were to select the `Don`t download' option, you would not get the mails, but they would build up on the server, and when you finally did download them, you would get them all in one go, IYSWIM :) o Now, lastly, move your filter to the top of the filters list (drag and drop to make sure it`s executed first), then save your prefs. (The `Delete' maybe a feature the Mail server has to support for you to be able to use it,.) Finally, the `Filter' button in the main-window does work! What it does is applys your `Local' filters to the `Incoming' directory,. IE, switch off your filters, download mails that are to lists, put your filters back on and then click it. If you have filters that move your list mails to individual folders, it will sort your `Inbound' directory out. :) It`s not for remote filter (I dont think.) WOW!,. took me ages to write that, perhaps I should do a FAQ :) Maybe not :) If anybody has any other questions I`d be happy to help, if I can of course :) RG>> ps Does your yam deal with over 60 messages? I think it was when I got RG>> 170 one day that I first tryed using it. Could be wrong, but now I RG>> have 10/20 it sure dosn't work. I`ve never had over 60 mails,. I poll my mail 4 times a day usually :), and still get about 30 everytime, other wise I`d have a little too many to take in, in one go :) But yeah, I heard something about a 60 mail limit. And people having problems downloading more :( Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 11:30:45 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1211-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 11:40:11 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:40:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:40:10 0000 Received: (qmail 32593 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 11:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 32588 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 11:39:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 11:39:35 -0000 Received: from dialup-21-35.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-21-35.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.233.99]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00135 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:39:50 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 11:30:45 +0100 Message-Id: <36B43EE5.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: Brian Foster > > Hello SANKEY > > On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: > > > From: "SANKEY" > > > > Hi, alll > > I've been on this list for about a week, now, and I must > > say, it's a bit quiet. --------- So, to liven things up a bit, I > > thought I would run the following thought past You all :- > > > > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the > > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- > > *THE INTERNET!!!!* > > With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be in trouble with > or without the internet. It is a tribute to the machine's greatness that > there is any user base at all. If anything the intermet saved the amiga because > it kept a small core community of users together. Without the internet that > community may not have existed at the time of the Gateway purchase and > Gateway may have opted to take the patents and do nothing. > > Brian I must disagree with You, on a couple of points, here :- All Commodore were doing 6 years ago were "box shifting" stuff they had developed a year, to 18 months previously, so it's about 8 years we have been left in limbo. *BUT, STILL* the user base was holding up, until about 2 years ago, about the same time as the Internet exploded onto (into?) the scene, in a big way. Looking through the back issues of My Amiga magazines, I noticed they all had good circulation figures *until* they started "talking up" the internet, and sales plummeted --- coincidence ? I don't think so. I agree with You about the Amigas' greatness, but where's the greatness in browsers that have more crashes than Stevie Wonders' Caddilac ? More hangs than a vigalante group ? I think, it's just a case of "soldiering on" with what We have, and hope that this is the nadir, and that, soon, once again, We will be able to say to all those doubters --- "*TOLD YOU SO!!*" Sankey PS Why is it, that now there is talk of an upturn in the Amigas' fortunes, all the gamesplayers come out of the woodwork, and start rattling on about how great it will be to be able to play the "bestest" games ever ? Ain't that where Commodore fu*&ud up. by selling the Amiga as a games machine. (contoversy & debate (part 2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Feb 07 22:24:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1343-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 00:10:41 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:41 0000 Received: (qmail 19753 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19552 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:10:17 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:24:57 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Chris Seward" Hilda, On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > A single redhead with an Amiga :) Welcome to JUST-AMiGA dating service, please give full descriptions of yourself... blab blab blab....... grrwlll. Male with an Amiga..... woohoo? you decide?! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 10:16:50 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1210-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 11:40:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:40:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:40:10 0000 Received: (qmail 16320 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 11:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 16315 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 11:53:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 11:53:46 -0000 Received: from dialup-21-35.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-21-35.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.233.99]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00129 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:39:48 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 10:16:50 +0100 Message-Id: <36B42D92.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <36B3A09D.1D9BD981@acay.com.au> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: Frank Bunton > > > SANKEY wrote: > > > I've been on this list for about a week, now, > > I can beat that - I've been on for about 5 minutes (literally!) > > > and I must say, it's a bit quiet. > > And one message already - if that keeps up it won't be quiet!! Oh, but it *does* get very quiet here, for most of the time -- I've been here before changing My ISP account details, so have decided to inject a little input of a "cage - rattling" nature ;-) (hope that's OK with everyone !!!!!) > > > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the > > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- > > *THE INTERNET!!!!* > > Well I must admit that I have given up using my beloved Amiga for web > surfing. I just cannot justify spending more money on my A1200 to try > and keep up with the rapid developments in software that Microsoft and > Netscape are doing - it was just hopeless trying to read web pages with > Amiga browsers. > > > Let's hope the NG Amiga is as "Kickass" as they say it will be. > > I am really looking forward to when I can revert to a new Amiga > Let's just hope there will be sufficiant confidence, to enable the development of all the things (*AND MORE!!!!!) that the PC has, that are sadly lacking in current Amiga IT software *ROLL ON, 2000 !!!!!!!!!! Sankey > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > From:- Frank Bunton > E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au > Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton > HOME OF: > AmigaDOS For Beginners > ARexx For Beginners > How To Write AmigaGuide Docs > > Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 > Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 > > Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide > http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html > ------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From fosterb@voyager.net Sun Jan 31 15:27:14 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1212-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 15:27:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:27:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:27:30 0000 Received: (qmail 15741 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 16:25:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15730 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 16:25:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 16:25:37 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@flntmi142084.voyager.net [209.153.142.84]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id KAA11517 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:28:26 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Foster To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:27:14 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B43EE5.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Brian Foster Hello SANKEY On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > From: "SANKEY" > >> From: Brian Foster >> >> Hello SANKEY >> >> On 30-Jan-99, you wrote: >> >> > From: "SANKEY" >> > >> > Hi, alll >> > I've been on this list for about a week, now, and I must >> > say, it's a bit quiet. --------- So, to liven things up a bit, I >> > thought I would run the following thought past You all :- >> > >> > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the >> > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- >> > *THE INTERNET!!!!* >> >> With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be in trouble >> with or without the internet. It is a tribute to the machine's greatness >> that there is any user base at all. If anything the intermet saved the >> amiga because it kept a small core community of users together. Without >> the internet that community may not have existed at the time of the >> Gateway purchase and Gateway may have opted to take the patents and do >> nothing. >> >> Brian > > > > I must disagree with You, on a couple of points, here :- > All Commodore were doing 6 years ago were "box shifting" > stuff they had developed a year, to 18 months previously, so > it's about 8 years we have been left in limbo. *BUT, STILL* the > user base was holding up, until about 2 years ago, about the same time > as the Internet exploded onto (into?) the scene, in a big way. > Looking through the back issues of My Amiga magazines, I noticed they > all had good circulation figures *until* they started "talking up" > the internet, and sales plummeted --- coincidence ? I don't think so. I should have been more clear. I agree that commodore was not doing much. In fact you could make a good argument that in all the years that commodore owned the amiga they only made slight improvements to an original design that they had nothing to do with. In my comment I was refering to serious development from third parties. I know there were some companies who supported the amiga after commodores demise, but not many. And even the companies that did not desert the platform, were much more cautious in their development. I certainly do not blame the companies, after all they have a buisness to run. On the issue of the user base holding up untill about two years ago. I think that depends on where you live. The user base in the US was very small even in the last days of Commodore. When commodore went under it quickly got worse. In fact the name recongnition of the amiga in the US is almost down to zero, if you are talking about "normal", noncomputer types. I imagine things were diffrent in Europe where the amiga had always been a more "popular" machine. > I agree with You about the Amigas' greatness, but where's the > greatness in browsers that have more crashes than Stevie Wonders' > Caddilac ? More hangs than a vigalante group ? Don't complain about current amiga software. Ibrowse is basicly developed by one person in his spare time. Yet amiga users want all the features of IE and Netscape. These programs have hundreds of people in the development. It's not that I wouldn't like a better browser, I just think until the amiga's position improves you have to be realistic. > I think, it's just a case of "soldiering on" with what We have, and > hope that this is the nadir, and that, soon, once again, We will be > able to say to all those doubters --- "*TOLD YOU SO!!*" > > Sankey > > PS > Why is it, that now there is talk of an upturn in the Amigas' > fortunes, all the gamesplayers come out of the woodwork, and start > rattling on about how great it will be to be able to play the > "bestest" games ever ? Ain't that where Commodore fu*&ud up. by > selling the Amiga as a games machine. (contoversy & debate (part 2) You could not be more right. Amiga Inc should build a great computer. If that computer has great games fine, but that should never be the focus you can't compete with the consoles. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 07 23:24:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1298-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 02:05:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:05:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:05:33 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) id QQgboz18547 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7221 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 22:30:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 7145 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 22:30:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 22:30:12 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1538.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.2]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04283; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:28:24 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:24:37 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Erik Bruser Hello Matthew On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Hilda > > On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > >>> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner >>> by chance :)? > >> Nope! > >> Hildy >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) > > Is it true that women with read hair also....... > > ;) > > Regards I thought this was -Just amiga- not -Lonely singles making out via e-mail- Regards -- ErikB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Mon Feb 08 03:12:12 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1305-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 02:24:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:24:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:24:38 0000 Received: (qmail 28143 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 02:24:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27381 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 02:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.primenet.com) (206.165.6.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 02:23:55 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02994 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:21:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-007.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.7), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdc02807; Sun Feb 7 19:21:43 1999 From: Hilda To: Nick Bergquist Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:12:12 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 07-Feb-99, Nick Bergquist is alleged to have said... >From: "Nick Bergquist" >> From: Erik Bruser >> >> I thought this was -Just amiga- not -Lonely singles making out via >> e-mail- >> Regards >> -- >> ErikB >Ah... but the thing is we're all gaga now 'cos Hildy describes herself >as 'A single redhead with an Amiga' - funny though 'cos I could have >sworn that you said your husband had a passion for his mainframe a >couple of mails back Hildy!? >Nick - a scruffy brown-hair bloke with an Amiga... A *ruse* Nick, and you fell for it. My *ex-husband*. He *still plays with his mainframe, but *I* got the Amiga :) Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Feb 08 04:05:46 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1306-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 03:11:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 03:11:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 03:11:37 0000 Received: (qmail 32765 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 03:13:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 32724 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 03:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fatman.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 03:13:20 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912482.acay.com.au [203.19.124.82]) by fatman.acay.com.au (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA31182 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:28:11 +1100 Message-ID: <36BE548A.591EF609@acay.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:05:46 +1100 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <19990206120754.29174.rocketmail@web311.yahoomail.com> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Copying problem From: Frank Bunton G'Day Richard Richard Buckingham wrote: > Every time I try to copy a disk I keep getting an error message saying > "Error on destination disk" then " Error validating disk Key 1587 > ckecksum error." I have formatted the disks and I have tried quite a > few different disks. Could anyone email me back if they knoy the > answer. A couple of thoughts. I assume you have tried copying to more than one disk and get the same with each destination disk? Are you copying to a DSDD disk or a DSHD disk? Amiga disk drives will not handle high density disks very well - they may seem to format OK but some will end up with errors on them. Best to stick with double density if you can still get them! I have a disk drive that suddenly started creating errors every time I wrote to it. I can read OK from it but not write to it. So maybe your drive has had it? :-( -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Sun Feb 07 00:23:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1287-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 23:24:42 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:24:42 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:24:40 0000 Received: (qmail 14070 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 23:26:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14015 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 23:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 23:26:02 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t1o68p30.telia.com [62.20.138.30]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05391 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:26:06 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Chris Seward Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Linus Akesson On 06-Feb-99, Chris Seward (amiga@thefree.net) wrote: > snip >With telnet you would connect to another computer terminal at >their IP address, eg 64.222.531.224 - Telnetting has many uses, spot the mistake... =) Linus \\// [o][O] .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://fly.to/linus.world | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' Top Ten Actual Country Song Titles: #7. You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Feb 08 05:11:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1307-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 04:11:55 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:11:55 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:11:54 0000 Received: (qmail 15715 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 04:11:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 15687 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 04:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fatman.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 04:11:42 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912482.acay.com.au [203.19.124.82]) by fatman.acay.com.au (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04050 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:28:31 +1100 Message-ID: <36BE63F0.62C504C0@acay.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:11:28 +1100 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: "just-amiga@onelist.com" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Canon Printer Driver From: Frank Bunton Does any one know of a printer driver that will work on an Amiga 1200 OS3.1 for a Canon BJC-4200? I went to their web site but BJC-4200 not mentioned in Amiga drivers - closest was BJC-4000 Does anyone know if this will work on BJC-4200? -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Feb 07 17:58:27 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1294-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 04:13:21 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:13:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:13:21 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) id QQgboi14792 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18704 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 18:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18631 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 18:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 18:07:23 -0000 Received: from dialup-05-57.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-05-57.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.229.121]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18446 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:05:41 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 7 Feb 99 17:58:27 +0100 Message-Id: <36BDD443.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: "SANKEY" Firstly, apologies to the "non Brits" on the ml, who may feel excluded from this, due to it's content, (*but you can join in, anyway!!*) Now ---- what's all this I have been reading, regarding a so called "protest" about BT phone charges????? All due respect, and all that --- BUT, a one day strike !!!!! Do Me a favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! Comments welcome ;-) Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 07 21:44:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1296-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 04:46:25 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:46:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:46:24 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) id QQgbox29663 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5591 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 1999 21:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 5571 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1999 21:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 1999 21:43:09 -0000 Received: from modem-103.mifepristone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.79.231] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109c0U-0003co-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:44:46 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:44:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BDD443.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: Matthew O'Neill Hi SANKEY On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > Now ---- what's all this I have been reading, regarding a so called > "protest" about BT phone charges????? > All due respect, and all that --- BUT, a one day strike !!!!! Do Me a > favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! This has been planned for weeks, maybe months. An organisation called unmetred.org trying to get rid of all the per minute charges, like most american phone companies have Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Mon Feb 08 05:23:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1308-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 05:31:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 05:31:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 05:31:43 0000 Received: (qmail 30453 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 05:45:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 30270 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 05:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 05:45:54 -0000 Received: from modem-63.methcathinone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.78.191] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109jHf-0004du-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:30:59 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 05:23:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet; [just-amiga] Canon Printer Driver From: Loki Hello Hilda Hiya, Hilda... ,on 08-Feb-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet! So I`ma reply`in... FB>> I went to their web site but BJC-4200 not mentioned in Amiga drivers - FB>> closest was BJC-4000 FB>> Does anyone know if this will work on BJC-4200? I`ve got a Canon BJC-4300, but I suggest you get Turbo Print, It totally bypasses the crappy old printer.device. And gives some STUNNING print outs, that when you compare with the printer.device versions. The difference is amazing! You can also spool from any program that prints with the printer.device. And it improves the quaility of those too, for example, WordsWorth and FW. And I`m sure it has a driver for the BJC-4200, it has drivers for just about every printer in existance. Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 07 23:19:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1301-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 06:51:32 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:51:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:51:31 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) id QQgbpf17399 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23873 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 23:53:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 23771 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 23:53:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 23:53:21 -0000 Received: from modem-7.ibogaine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.72.135] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 109e09-0008RH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:52:33 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:19:20 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Big Time Sensuality Demo From: Loki Hello, Has anybody ever managed to rip that cool module out of the Big Time Sensuality Demo? All I get is binary. I think that`s due to some weird compression on the samples tho? Just wondering. Peeps on the Satanic List didn`t know, so I thought I`d ask you lot :) Cya,.. -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 31 12:27:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1213-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 16:52:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:02 0000 Received: (qmail 2578 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 16:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2495 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 16:53:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 16:53:10 -0000 Received: from modem-15.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.20.15] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10705u-0006dH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:51:34 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:27:01 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B39D3B.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Matthew O'Neill Hi SANKEY On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- > *THE INTERNET!!!!* It would have been a good idea to tell us why.... Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From drstrange@jps.net Mon Feb 08 06:31:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1309-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 07:56:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:56:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:56:24 0000 Received: (qmail 19330 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 1999 07:56:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19174 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1999 07:56:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO repop1.jps.net) (209.63.224.238) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 07:56:40 -0000 Received: from jps.net (206-18-125-120.lax.jps.net [206.18.125.120]) by repop1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06741 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:36:20 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BDD443.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: Mark Tierno Hello SANKEY On 07-Feb-99, SANKEY wrote: > Do Me a > favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! Actually a chocolate teapot would sound yummy right about now. Suggest that around Hollywood and there'll probably be a bakery that'll come out with it the next day. All cream filled. :) -Later -- The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 31 12:29:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1214-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 16:52:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:12 0000 Received: (qmail 19987 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 16:54:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 19651 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 16:53:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 16:53:50 -0000 Received: from modem-15.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.20.15] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10705w-0006dH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:51:36 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:29:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Brian On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be in trouble > with or without the internet. It is a tribute to the machine's greatness > that there is any user base at all. If anything the intermet saved the > amiga because it kept a small core community of users together. Without the > internet that community may not have existed at the time of the Gateway > purchase and Gateway may have opted to take the patents and do nothing. Yeah. Although the Internet does do the amiga harm, it also does it more good. If there was no internet, we wouldn't have all these MLs, all the newsgroups, and above all, the one thing which keeps the amiga going, the Aminet and all it's contrubuters. Remember that Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ianurie@jwu.u-net.com Mon Feb 08 04:08:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1310-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 08:00:08 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:00:08 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:00:08 0000 Received: (qmail 5544 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 07:59:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5388 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 07:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 07:59:48 -0000 Received: from (p48.nas2.is3.u-net.net) [195.102.196.176] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 109lKv-0001QJ-00; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:42:29 +0000 Date: 07 Feb 99 22:08:30 -0500 From: "ian urie" To: "Matthew O'Neill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <490.707T1500T13285443@jwu.u-net.com> Organization: At Home X-Installer: Wirenet 1.8 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "ian urie" On 07-Feb-99 12:32:52, Matthew O'Neill said about [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet: > From: Matthew O'Neill >> Hildy >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) > Is it true that women with read hair also....... > ;) Knew you couldn't resist that one. Besides IMHO its not true, well nearly always. :) -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hotcakes@abacus.net.au Mon Feb 08 18:10:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1311-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 11:40:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:40:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:40:50 0000 Received: (qmail 11641 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 11:59:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11600 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 11:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a1bbs.abacus.net.au) (203.32.176.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 11:59:14 -0000 Received: from [203.32.176.39] by abacus.net.au id b1590.wrk; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:10:50 EDT From: Toby Zuijdveld To: SANKEY Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:10:47 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BDD443.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Res=A1stance?= Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: Toby Zuijdveld On 07-Feb-99, SANKEY set out across the seas with this message: ->favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! Mmmmmm Chocolate Teapot Hhh-h-hhhhgg-h-hghgg-ggg-ggggg... -- *************** *** CAT TAG *** The easy way is always the hardest way. *************** _ _ _ __ _ _ /\_ _ _________\/_________/\___ -- Toby Zuijdveld -- \____ ¬\/. ______ __/ | ) _/\____ \/ \ -EMail : mailto:hotcakes@abacus.net.au- |! | ¬\ \ \\ \\ - HTTP : http://abacus.net.au/hotcakes |___| //_____ //___ // [ Last updated : 31·01·99 ] !___/ \/DTN.\/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue Aug 25 23:07:24 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1312-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 16:57:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:57:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:57:12 0000 Received: (qmail 31784 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 16:58:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 31745 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 16:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 16:58:39 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p017.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.81]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id FAA20977; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 05:56:46 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Andy Kinsella Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:07:24 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Filtering In Secret From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Andy Kinsella wrote on 07-Feb-99: |>> I can see no trace of towerization or of DTP suggestions since |>> my last mail run on 2nd of feb. |>> It might be working after all! You'll have to tell me if this |>> is a fact though. |>I'm sorry if I have missed somewhat here; but why would you want to filter |>out those subjects? Yes. Perhaps it dosn't work for a while because the recent ones I entered still got through this time. They might not next time. |>Subjects often change without people actually changing the subject line; |>and you could be missing something usefull. . . Probably I'll just remove the ones like that after a while, when the thread has died off. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The memorys grow sweeter each season, as we slowly grow old. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sun Feb 07 21:47:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1314-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 18:33:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:33:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:33:48 0000 Received: (qmail 10710 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 18:35:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10699 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 18:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 18:35:28 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-028-0236.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.236]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07997 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:30:09 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BDD443.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & AND DEBATE (PART 2) From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 07-Feb-99, SANKEY wrote: > Firstly, apologies to the "non Brits" on the ml, who may feel excluded > from this, due to it's content, (*but you can join in, anyway!!*) > > Now ---- what's all this I have been reading, regarding a so called > "protest" about BT phone charges????? > All due respect, and all that --- BUT, a one day strike !!!!! Do Me a > favour --- that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot!!!!!!! Thing is, most of us that want this also can't live without the 'net for too long, so a longer strike would probably prove impossible :) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 16092 2^28 blocks done -- This universe is sold by mass, not by volume. Some expansion may have occurred during shipment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Mon Feb 08 20:28:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1315-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 19:32:16 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:32:16 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:32:15 0000 Received: (qmail 19665 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 19:46:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19635 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 19:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.53) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 19:46:25 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1561.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.25]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12294; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:31:52 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Nick Bergquist Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:28:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Erik Bruser Hello Nick On 08-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: "Nick Bergquist" > >> From: Erik Bruser >> >> Hello Matthew >> >> On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: >> >>> From: Matthew O'Neill >>> >>> Hi Hilda >>> >>> On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: >>> >>>>> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner >>>>> by chance :)? >>> >>>> Nope! >>> >>>> Hildy >>>> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >>> >>> Is it true that women with read hair also....... >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> Regards >> >> I thought this was -Just amiga- not -Lonely singles making out via >> e-mail- >> Regards >> -- >> ErikB > > Ah... but the thing is we're all gaga now 'cos Hildy describes herself > as 'A single redhead with an Amiga' - funny though 'cos I could have > sworn that you said your husband had a passion for his mainframe a > couple of mails back Hildy!? > > Nick - a scruffy brown-hair bloke with an Amiga... > > BTW EricB you're not my long lost brother of the same name? > I dont know anyone as a brother called Bergquist My name is Erik Bruser and am from smoking holland ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > Regards -- ErikB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Mon Feb 08 20:57:50 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1316-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 21:01:59 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:01:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:01:58 0000 Received: (qmail 23435 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 21:20:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23327 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.156) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-112-167.bellatlantic.net [151.197.112.167]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA09435 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:57:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BE63F0.62C504C0@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Canon Printer Driver From: Larry Miller Hello Frank On 08-Feb-99, you wrote: > Does any one know of a printer driver that will work on an Amiga 1200 > OS3.1 for a Canon BJC-4200? Studio has a BJC-4200 driver. I've been using it for some time and it works very well. There is a demo of it on Aminet. You will probably have to download one or more of the upgrades to get the 4200 driver as the program is older than this printer. > I went to their web site but BJC-4200 not mentioned in Amiga drivers - > closest was BJC-4000 > Does anyone know if this will work on BJC-4200? I think this driver should also work but I'm not really sure. Regards, Larry Miller -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From willik@bellatlantic.net Mon Feb 08 12:24:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1317-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 08 21:28:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:28:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:28:50 0000 Received: (qmail 13249 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 1999 21:25:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13211 invoked from network); 8 Feb 1999 21:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.157) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 21:25:27 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-204-202-80.bellatlantic.net [151.204.202.80]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06558 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: Willi Kusche To: Rick Giles Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:24:00 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Is it really August? From: Willi Kusche Hi! Rick, according to the date stamp on your last message, your computer thinks it's August. Willi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From dussel@xs4all.nl Tue Feb 09 00:03:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1318-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 09 00:11:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:11:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:11:18 0000 Received: (qmail 16462 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 1999 00:25:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16391 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1999 00:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.53) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 00:25:26 -0000 Received: from xs4all.nl (dc2-modem1953.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.135.161]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23820 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 01:10:53 +0100 (CET) From: Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 01:03:57 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Canon Printer Driver From: Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee Hello Larry Op 08-feb-99 schreef Larry Miller: > From: Larry Miller > > Hello Frank > > On 08-Feb-99, you wrote: > > >> Does any one know of a printer driver that will work on an Amiga 1200 >> OS3.1 for a Canon BJC-4200? > > Studio has a BJC-4200 driver. I've been using it for some time and it works > very well. There is a demo of it on Aminet. You will probably have to > download one or more of the upgrades to get the 4200 driver as the program > is older than this printer. > >> I went to their web site but BJC-4200 not mentioned in Amiga drivers - >> closest was BJC-4000 >> Does anyone know if this will work on BJC-4200? > > I think this driver should also work but I'm not really sure. Have you tried searching on AmiNet? There's also a canondriver-set there (I use it with my BJC240). > > Regards, > Larry Miller > Regards -- A4000/060@50/604e@200/CV-PPC/118MB ram/8.6GB hd/12xCDrom/Ricoh CD-RW/Pioneer 36x/Toccata/Hypercom3Z Atari 600XL/800XL/800XE/2600/LYNX |SEGA megadrive+cd/GameGear|N64/SNES|PSX :( --Member of:Convergence International- The NON-Wintel user group-- --Cracking RC5-64// Warp*S - a program of M$ Tactics Inc. ICQ:255060020|||| BOOT ERROR|||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Feb 09 19:17:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1319-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 09 19:34:21 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:34:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:34:20 0000 Received: (qmail 30954 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 1999 19:52:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 30902 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1999 19:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb05.swip.net) (193.12.122.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 19:52:56 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup228-3-23.swipnet.se [130.244.228.151]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14645 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:33:58 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:17:29 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BE63F0.62C504C0@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Canon Printer Driver From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Frank On 08-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Frank Bunton > Does any one know of a printer driver that will work on an Amiga 1200 > OS3.1 for a Canon BJC-4200? > I went to their web site but BJC-4200 not mentioned in Amiga drivers - > closest was BJC-4000 > Does anyone know if this will work on BJC-4200? Probably, but that doesn't really matter anyway. I had the same problem when Iw as trying tp find drivers for my printer the 250. All i found was 200. Then I downloaded it and Caboom! 200, 220, 240, 280 and 250. Cannon packed them in series... -- /ZoomiX < mailto:skvr@swipnet.se > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue Feb 09 19:17:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1320-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 09 20:13:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:13:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:13:32 0000 Received: (qmail 19994 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 1999 20:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19950 invoked from network); 9 Feb 1999 20:32:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 20:32:04 -0000 Received: from modem-121.cardplayer.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.120.121] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10AJWr-0002kw-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:13:06 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:17:37 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Erik On 08-Feb-99, you wrote: >>>>> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >>>> >>>> Is it true that women with read hair also....... >>> I thought this was -Just amiga- not -Lonely singles making out via >>> e-mail- I'm not a linely single, I'm looking for a threesome =P >> Ah... but the thing is we're all gaga now 'cos Hildy describes herself >> as 'A single redhead with an Amiga' - funny though 'cos I could have >> sworn that you said your husband had a passion for his mainframe a >> couple of mails back Hildy!? mmmmmmm.................amiga....... >> Nick - a scruffy brown-hair bloke with an Amiga... ditto :) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Sat Feb 13 11:10:31 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1345-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 10:10:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:10:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:10:53 0000 Received: (qmail 15947 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 10:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 10:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 10:09:37 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10Bc23-0005Y1-00; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:10:39 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 10:10:31 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Fri, 12 Feb 99 21:21:41) Lines: 37 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi ken > From: ken > > Is anyone using a 4.5 gig Quantum HD on their a3k ? I just picked one up > today, but had no idea 4 gig was the max. I ran across something called > giga.device on aminet, says the big drive needs to be dev 0. Thats all fine > and good, but my a3k looks at dev0 to boot from. I've tried hooking a system > up to a floppy, a 100 meg hd, and a 1.3 gig (almost shot Quantum HD). > The 100 is dev 6, the 1.3 gig also is dev 6. giga device (until registered can > only access as dev/unit 0.. > > Anyone else hooked up with a gig drive over 4 gigs ? > Yes, lots of us :-) You basically have two choices: 1) download the latest TD64 and FFS stuff from http://www.amiga.de/ These allow you to use FFS with drives > 4GB 2) Buy PFS2. It copes with drives up to 2TG (= 2000GB!), and is much faster than FFS. I prefer PFS2 because I sell it ;-) Regards, Tim -- ========================================================================== Ramjam Consultants Ltd, 28 Queensway, Caversham, Reading, RG4 6SQ, England e-mail: support@ramjam.u-net.com http://www.ramjam.u-net.com/ telephone: +44 (0)118 946 5940 fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amirules@warpengine.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 13 12:25:49 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1346-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 11:28:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:28:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:28:09 0000 Received: (qmail 19160 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 11:26:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19155 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 11:26:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 11:26:48 -0000 Received: from modem-79.neon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.207] helo=oemcomputer) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10BdEb-0000ql-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:27:42 +0000 Message-ID: <003001be5743$9c4140a0$cf04883e@oemcomputer> From: "aaron colton" To: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:25:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: "aaron colton" >Is anyone using a 4.5 gig Quantum HD on their a3k ? I just picked one up >today, but had no idea 4 gig was the max. I ran across something called >giga.device on aminet, says the big drive needs to be dev 0. Thats all fine >and good, but my a3k looks at dev0 to boot from. I've tried hooking a system >up to a floppy, a 100 meg hd, and a 1.3 gig (almost shot Quantum HD). >The 100 is dev 6, the 1.3 gig also is dev 6. giga device (until registered can >only access as dev/unit 0.. > >Anyone else hooked up with a gig drive over 4 gigs ? i have 4.3 gig working ok i just partitiond the 4.0 gig of it and left the rest ..... works for me thanx aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 12 19:32:27 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1347-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 12:51:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:51:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:51:50 0000 Received: (qmail 31314 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 12:50:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 31309 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 12:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 12:50:32 -0000 Received: from modem-117.actinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.44.117] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10BeXa-0002oV-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:51:23 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:32:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Andy On 10-Feb-99, you wrote: >>>> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >> >>> Is it true that women with read hair also....... >> ^^^^ >>> ;) >> >> No reply as I am still trying to figure out what /read/ hair is. >> >> But then again, I am a technical idiot :) > It sounds rite if you use past tense i guess 8) > And "also" what, Mat? Speak up boy :) if quake was real, she would have fragged me by now, i'll leave it at that Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Wed Feb 10 06:20:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1321-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 10 05:26:41 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:26:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:26:41 0000 Received: (qmail 31407 invoked by alias); 10 Feb 1999 05:28:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 31362 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 05:28:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.primenet.com) (206.165.6.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 05:28:22 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24045 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:26:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-040.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.40), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdb23841; Tue Feb 9 22:26:20 1999 From: Hilda To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:20:02 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 07-Feb-99, Matthew O'Neill is alleged to have said... >From: Matthew O'Neill >Hi Hilda >On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: >>> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner >>> by chance :)? >> Nope! >> Hildy >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >Is it true that women with read hair also....... ^^^^ >;) No reply as I am still trying to figure out what /read/ hair is. But then again, I am a technical idiot :) Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sat Feb 13 12:38:16 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1348-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 12:57:03 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:57:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:57:03 0000 Received: (qmail 28995 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 12:55:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28990 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 12:55:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 12:55:50 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.18] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10BeaZ-0007JS-00; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:54:28 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:38:16 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Dust From: Stephen Williams Hi y'all Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how effective they are, or if they're worth the money. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Jan 31 15:45:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1267-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 06 00:16:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:33 0000 Received: (qmail 13557 invoked by alias); 6 Feb 1999 00:18:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13495 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 00:18:23 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.116] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:16:23 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:45:57 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] January 1999 listing out. From: "Chris Seward" JUST-AMiGA message base for January 1999 available now on Aminet, *Aminet*:Docs/Misc/JAJAN.lha It should be online Tuesday latest, it takes a few days after uploading to go online. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 31 12:38:16 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1215-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 16:52:17 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:52:17 0000 Received: (qmail 870 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 16:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 434 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 16:51:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 16:51:56 -0000 Received: from modem-15.niobium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.20.15] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10705z-0006dH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:51:39 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B3A09D.1D9BD981@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Frank On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > Well I must admit that I have given up using my beloved Amiga for web > surfing. I just cannot justify spending more money on my A1200 to try > and keep up with the rapid developments in software that Microsoft and > Netscape are doing - it was just hopeless trying to read web pages with > Amiga browsers. Why? only about 1% of web pages use all the fancy stuff, so why not? We have the best mailer and IRC program on any platform, and even PC users are jeleous of them. YAM and AMIRC, they cannot be beaten. As for hardware, an 030 card with 16megs cost about 100 quid Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Sat Feb 13 14:45:49 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1349-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 13:48:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:48:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:48:51 0000 Received: (qmail 24415 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 13:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 24409 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 13:47:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 13:47:49 -0000 Received: from (p55.nas1.is3.u-net.net) [195.102.196.55] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10BfRC-0003JD-00; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:48:50 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 13 Feb 99 13:45:49 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000446] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Microsoft Outlook Express HTML off? From: "Nick Bergquist" Hi Chris, > From: "Chris Seward" > > A friend has really started to annoy me with his stupid > Microsoft Outlook Express program, it sends a copy of his message > in HTML like Gavin Williams, anyway looking through the past > JUST-AMiGA archives I can't seem to find the message that told > him how to turn it off, I'd appreciate it if someone could email > me privately to let me know what menu etc it is in so I can get him > to turn it off. > > Don't want to rubbish the list with PC trash so email me at > *amiga@thefree.net* Well actually I think this info would be welcomed by many Amiga users and should be posted publicly here! I think we all have this problem with html 'garbage' posted to us by PC users and... I for one would love to explain to them exactly how to stop it. BTW I've found that Amiga mailing lists generally use perfect 'netiquette'. Whenever I've subscribed to more general lists the ineptitude in mailing skills is horrific! I get multiple copies, PC viruses, the HTML repetition of messages, blank messages, replies of "Yes - I agree" added to huge messages, massive pointless attachments of the same message in 'Word' format, etc, etc. Sometimes subscribing to some of these (non-Amiga) mailing lists is like strolling sober into a bar full of people in advanced states of intoxification... I don't half feel good to get that little rant off my chest... ;-) Nick Bergquist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sat Feb 13 14:51:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1350-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 13:50:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:50:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:50:44 0000 Received: (qmail 23338 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 13:49:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 23307 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 13:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 13:49:39 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp34.cubenet.de[194.97.90.34]) (1311 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:54:22 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:50:02 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:51:38 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5760.5BC0EE00.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:51:36 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Microsoft Outlook Express HTML off? From: Oliver Kastl > Well actually I think this info would be welcomed by many Amiga users > and should be posted publicly here! I think we all have this problem > with html 'garbage' posted to us by PC users and... I for one would > love to explain to them exactly how to stop it. Okay, that's easy: Tools->options... Send... Mail Sending Format: Plain Text News Sending Format: Plain Text Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From axis@distrinet.com.uy Wed Feb 10 18:21:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1322-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 10 17:19:00 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:19:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:18:58 0000 Received: (qmail 31471 invoked by alias); 10 Feb 1999 18:16:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 31456 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 18:16:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zofanor.distrinet.com.uy) (207.3.118.8) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 18:16:33 -0000 Received: from [207.50.244.141] (r244-80.adinet.com.uy [207.50.244.80]) by zofanor.distrinet.com.uy with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 1SABPYB3; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:14:24 -0300 X-Sender: axis@mailer.distrinet.com.uy Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:21:21 -0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] Apollo Controller Nightmares From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" >X-Sender: axis@mailer.distrinet.com.uy >Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:47:11 -0300 >To: cu-list@onelist.com >From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" >Mailing-List: list cu-list@onelist.com; contact cu-list-owner@onelist.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cu-list@onelist.com >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: >Reply-to: cu-list@onelist.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: [cu-list] Apollo Controller Nightmares > >From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" > >I just add an Apollo SCSI controller to a friend's A2000, since then I had >lot of problems. First the disk it's not recognized by the card. I have 2 >disks 1 internal an old Quantum, and 1 external a Fujitsu 4.3 Gb SCSI >ultra in an external case. Well the system recognizes just one, the other >is ignored, I already installed the apollo drivers and configuration a >thousand times, and no result, everything the same the controller >recognizes and mounts DH0 the other not. > >Regards, > >Rick > >--------------------------------------------------------- > >Ricardo Fitzgerald A1500T Micronik Blizzard PPC 603e 200 >OmNI & 040 25 Mhz > 32 Mb RAM CD 32 x HD 4.3 Gb VLabMotion > EGS Spectrum 28/24 > PowerMac 9500 150 96 Mb RAM >mailto:axis@distrinet.com.uy > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >**CU-List. Please quote sparingly and read all ADMIN-README mails** > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald AXIS Computers - We are Amiga Uruguay Hocquart 2018 Montevideo 11200 Uruguay Phone 00598 2 402 76 55 FAX 00598 2 402 76 55 mailto:axis@distrinet.com.uy *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From syzygy@sunlink.net Thu Feb 11 07:44:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1325-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 10:59:46 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:59:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:59:45 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) id QQgcbi09454 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14145 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 07:42:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14140 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 07:42:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO earth.sunlink.net) (204.170.191.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 07:42:19 -0000 Received: from jupiter.sunlink.net (syzygy@jupiter.sunlink.net [204.170.191.12]) by earth.sunlink.net (1.8.18/1.8.18) with ESMTP id BAA13703 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:44:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: Nano To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <36BE15A9.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Nano Yes, you can do that. Two of the most popular *nix programs for email would be Elm and Pine. I prefer Pine and still use that over any PC/Mac/Amiga email client to date (for this account anyhow =)). You can also use Lynx via telnet which is a non-graphical web browser which I use if I just need to grab something quick, no hassles. You can telnet from a telnet to another account, fun fun. How about zipping/unzipping or taring files in your shell from telnet. Moving files around and so on. To me, my account which I access via telnet is just an extension of my hard drive where I store files, email, web pages, etc. I keep backups there and store things there for others to access. I use Telnet more than any other internet application out there ... but I'm a freak. =) I love a shell. PS: MUDs are still very popular. We get many new users all the time and have a very large user base of regulars. Telnet required. =) >Also, does it not have it's uses in allowing access to One's >mailserver, to delete mails from there ? > >Sankey _____ | . arcanum.org:4000 MUD <-Arcanum Staff---> nano@arcanum.org | . ISP <---SunLink Staff-> syzygy@sunlink.net . | . WWW <-----Home Page---> www.sunlink.net/nano . ! ...................................................................... : : Alpha-> Multia---21164@166---64mb----------------RedHat--SCSI2 . | . Amiga-> A4000T---68060@50---130mb--PIV--CDR12x4--os3.1---SCSI2/3 . | Mac---> 7100/66----601@66---128mb----------------os8.1---SCSI2 _____! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From syzygy@sunlink.net Thu Feb 11 06:26:34 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1323-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 11:10:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:10:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:10:10 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) id QQgcbd04936 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2647 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 05:41:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2640 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 05:41:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO earth.sunlink.net) (204.170.191.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 05:41:16 -0000 Received: from jupiter.sunlink.net (syzygy@jupiter.sunlink.net [204.170.191.12]) by earth.sunlink.net (1.8.18/1.8.18) with ESMTP id AAA01297 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:26:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:26:34 -0500 (EST) From: Nano To: Just Amiga ML Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] SS From: Nano Is there a ShapeShifter mailing list? Or may I pose a question here about it? Thank you. _____ | . arcanum.org:4000 MUD <-Arcanum Staff---> nano@arcanum.org | . ISP <---SunLink Staff-> syzygy@sunlink.net . | . WWW <-----Home Page---> www.sunlink.net/nano . ! ...................................................................... : : Alpha-> Multia---21164@166---64mb----------------RedHat--SCSI2 . | . Amiga-> A4000T---68060@50---130mb--PIV--CDR12x4--os3.1---SCSI2/3 . | Mac---> 7100/66----601@66---128mb----------------os8.1---SCSI2 _____! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From syzygy@sunlink.net Thu Feb 11 07:33:56 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1324-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 13:24:40 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:24:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:24:40 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) id QQgcbi05770 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 06:48:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 60 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 06:48:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO earth.sunlink.net) (204.170.191.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 06:48:38 -0000 Received: from jupiter.sunlink.net (syzygy@jupiter.sunlink.net [204.170.191.12]) by earth.sunlink.net (1.8.18/1.8.18) with ESMTP id BAA12247 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:33:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:33:56 -0500 (EST) From: Nano To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Nano I don't know that you can up/download via a telnet session. I recall seeing a function like that in AmTelnet but haven't tried it. You can in a non-slip/ppp dial up terminal session into your account. Anyhow, yes, you can use telnet to EDIT web pages. If you're like me you prefer to telnet to your account and create your pages on the server they reside on rather than on your computer then uploading them... >The main reason one needs telnet is because many providers require it to >upload webpages for websites. >Regards >-- >ErikB _____ | . arcanum.org:4000 MUD <-Arcanum Staff---> nano@arcanum.org | . ISP <---SunLink Staff-> syzygy@sunlink.net . | . WWW <-----Home Page---> www.sunlink.net/nano . ! ...................................................................... : : Alpha-> Multia---21164@166---64mb----------------RedHat--SCSI2 . | . Amiga-> A4000T---68060@50---130mb--PIV--CDR12x4--os3.1---SCSI2/3 . | Mac---> 7100/66----601@66---128mb----------------os8.1---SCSI2 _____! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Feb 11 16:46:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1326-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 15:48:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:48:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:48:01 0000 Received: (qmail 14544 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 15:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14519 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 15:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 15:45:25 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14022 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc2-69.digital.net [204.215.229.69]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA25872 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:47:38 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Just amiga Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] A3k problem From: Ken I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, where software hut's current repairman didn't... Basically here's what did happen in case someone has suggestions. I can still access onelist from the library computer so mail will be small to non-existant till I get the ami back up to par. Couple weeks back, had to do a guru reset, ami didn't come back up . just sat there with the green screen. Eventually much fiddling and resets later it did come back up. Later on in the week repeated this process only it never came back. Off to software hut. 1 week and I'm told the hard drive about a year old maybe, bit the big one ? HUH ??? I just ran hdtools 'check data' option and it came back with ZERO errors. Hasn't been a bad sector on this drive since I got it. So Software hut says they got it back to booting (NOT !). I don't consider a machine that runs when cool and fails hot as repaired because it's been off long enough to cool down and run. So after $90+ and a week, it's now up to me to trace the prob down. The hard drive is full of hard sector errors. It takes maybe 30 minutes to format a 200 meg partition now. And the sectors are still shot. I still have the 'when it heats up it dies' problem. Which makes me think several things, but if we have any ami mechs here , maybe you have some input. Anyways my thoughts on what the prob is start with the power supply voltages, then go to the scsi controller. Those are my two ideas on what the problem is. Has anyone else seen this ? Then there's the other thing that makes me think huh ? how can it be scsi when the CD drive works fine ? I don't expect any hard sector errors on the cd, but if it's the scsi controller (which would be #2 in the troubleshooting) why isn't it also affecting the CD ? Oh why I don't think the problem is the hard drive. 1st Like I said I ran HDTOOLS just a few days before this all this went south, and came up with NO ERRORS.. 2nd I also completely removed the 1.3 gig hd and stuck the original 100 meg in. heating problem kept it from booting. So until I can get the heating problem to repeat and then stick the 100 meg back in, I really have no idea if the 1.3 gig hd is dead or not. It has lost almost all data. including all my ace work directories. But like I said before this thing died, I already have every single piece backed up.. 3rd I'm using the amiga right now after an overnight cooldown. Trouble is the hard sector errors have migrated to the whole drive I wonder if a virus could have caused all this ? Other than the aminet CD's I can't think where the virus came from.. Anyways if anyone else has seen this same problem and came up with a fix, I'd like all suggestions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Feb 11 17:09:14 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1327-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 16:13:45 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:13:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:13:45 0000 Received: (qmail 19781 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 16:15:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 19745 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 16:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 16:15:02 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-9.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.12]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA01304 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:13:17 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Ken Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 02:09:14 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: Colin Wenzel On 12-Feb-99, Ken wrote: >From: Ken >I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, where software hut's current >repairman didn't... >So Software hut says they got it back to booting (NOT !). I don't consider a >machine that runs when cool and fails hot as repaired because it's been off >long enough to cool down and run. >So after $90+ and a week, it's now up to me to trace the prob down. -snip- OK let me read this right... 1: You went to software hut to get the machine repaired. 2: You paid then $90.00 after a week & took it home. 3: You found that it still has problems. 4: You now want to find the hardware fault yourself, without any technical knowledge or experience with thermal intermittents. OK, Now here is something obvious, How about complaining - or take it back & explicitly mention that it only fails when hot. It's your $90.00, if they want it, tell them to fix it or get a refund & take it elsewhere to be fixed.. If you're getting green screens & such, you have problems, it is NOT funky hard drives or CD roms or any other minor (consumer) stuff. Get a _professional_ to fix it, screw around with the circuitry & you will finish up having an expensive mobile to hang from your ceiling..... -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From dlbenson@psnw.com Thu Feb 11 17:41:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1328-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 16:42:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:42:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:42:38 0000 Received: (qmail 593 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 17:01:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 503 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 17:01:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 17:01:31 -0000 Received: from psnw.com (root@vct1-29.psnw.com [206.43.240.52]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA13820 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: Don and Lynn Benson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:41:18 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: Don and Lynn Benson Hello Ken On 11-Feb-99, Ken wrote: > From: Ken > > I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, where software hut's > current repairman didn't... > > I still have the 'when it heats up it dies' problem. Which makes > me think several things, but if we have any ami mechs here , > maybe you have some input. > > > I wonder if a virus could have caused all this ? Other than the > aminet CD's I can't think where the virus came from.. > > Anyways if anyone else has seen this same problem and came up > with a fix, I'd like all suggestions. > You are not crazy. I went through the same/similar thing with an A-3000. My only solution was to get another computer. It is definitely a heat problem, but it HAS to be on the mother board At the time I suspected the fluctuating power in the house we lived in. I got a UPS after finding out the power was fluctuating, down mostly, from 10 to 12 volts. I replaced all kinds of chips that could be taken out and re-socketed everything. I tried blowing heat on the board with a heat gun and could not find ANYTHING that would cause it except that after it ran long enough to get hot it quit! I hope you find a solution other than mine. BTW, I sure love my A-4000 and I HIGHLY recommend geting a UPS to everyone. ----- Don /// /// AMIGA -D. R. Benson /// IS 1209 East Sweet Street \\\ /// ALIVE! Visilia CA 93292-2260 \\\/// U.S.A. \XX/ Amiga is what Windows wants to be when it grows up. -e-mail: dlbenson@psnw.com Those who are busy saying it can't be done need to stay out of the way of those who are busy doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From a2001@delanet.com Thu Feb 11 18:28:22 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1329-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 17:30:16 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:30:16 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:30:15 0000 Received: (qmail 2906 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 17:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2901 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 17:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sparcy.delanet.com) (208.9.136.54) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 17:30:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19072 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 17:24:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO delanet.com) (208.17.58.153) by sparcy.delanet.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 17:24:55 -0000 From: Craig Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] BVision problems. From: Craig Peterson I cant fiqure out how to run the BVision patch for CGv4, if someone has done this successfuly, PLEASE explain it to me! Thanks in advance. Craig Peterson. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Feb 11 20:15:43 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1330-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 19:20:47 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:20:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:20:46 0000 Received: (qmail 13254 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 19:20:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13232 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 19:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 19:20:47 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19275 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-51.digital.net [208.14.41.51]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA16692 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:20:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Just amiga Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:15:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] hard drive From: Ken I'm pretty sure this means a controller error, but can't find any info anywhere to verify or deny it. It would seem my Quantum Fireball tm1280s 300j has decided to all of a sudden quit, or maybe the scsi controller itself... Using hdtools, and marking bad blocks,(since it would seem something has gone drastically wrong) I get hardware error 2!. Can't find diddly in any of the amiga books I have, all of which I had to hunt up 2nd hand as nothing really came with my used amiga. Does anyone have any idea what would make a hard drive seemingly go from working perfectly not a scratch on any sector (I actually ran hdtools verify data option just days before this happened, I have no idea why..) To it's current state of hard booting if at all, and bad sectors from one end of the drive to the other. I suspect the controller but have no way to check it. And software hut wasn't any real help. They just said the HD is shot. Makes no sense one day perfect next day looks like it was at Hiroshima. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Feb 11 20:30:24 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1331-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 19:31:23 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:31:23 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:31:23 0000 Received: (qmail 29197 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 19:31:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 29178 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 19:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 19:31:24 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19512 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-51.digital.net [208.14.41.51]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA19307 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:30:57 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Colin Wenzel Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:30:24 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: Ken >OK let me read this right... >1: You went to software hut to get the machine repaired. Mailed it to them. >2: You paid then $90.00 after a week & took it home. They said it booted, just needed to replace the HD. >3: You found that it still has problems. Same problem as when it wnet in. Gets hot, it quits. >4: You now want to find the hardware fault yourself, without any technical > knowledge or experience with thermal intermittents. Well not entirely true, as I spent 8 years AF repairing radios. My eyes are no longer good enough to trace down the small stuff without a huge magnifying glass in the way. I had trouble just getting a cable in the right pins. It's simpler to let somone with 20/20 eyes repair it. But I can if pressed. I'm now pressed. Which still didn't answer my questions... Have you seen what I described, and have some useful input on it ? I got the freeze spray in case it was a faulty chip. But I need it to fail to use the spray which gave me time to think whats actually happening. HDTools says I have a hardware error 2!. I have no troubleshooting books that even tell me what hardware error numbers mean. That makes me think SCSI controller or maybe a fluctuating power supply. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Feb 11 20:46:07 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1332-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 19:47:42 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:47:42 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:47:41 0000 Received: (qmail 15507 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 19:47:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15444 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19877 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-51.digital.net [208.14.41.51]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA22990 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Don and Lynn Benson Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:46:07 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: Ken >You are not crazy. I went through the same/similar thing with an >A-3000. My only solution was to get another computer. It is >definitely a heat problem, but it HAS to be on the mother board Well I had an a3k 16. That board went out, and got this a3k 25mhz from software hut just last year sometime. I'm not saying it isn't on the board, it's just too deep to be just a faulty chip on the motherboard. 1 minute I have a VERY GOOD - EXCELLENT 1.3 gig HD. Gurus on me, then has an impossible time coming back up. Software hut runs it (after cooling down) and they find the HD is shot.. Actually I've been running it all day myself now with guruing and other than the shoddy hd, it's been fairly well behaved. A watched pot never boils... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Wed Feb 10 18:37:17 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1333-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 21:14:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:14:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:14:09 0000 Received: (qmail 28362 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 21:14:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28298 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 21:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 21:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5191 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 21:13:31 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 21:13:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25276 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 21:13:30 -0000 Received: from tnt-3-60.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.202.60) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 21:13:30 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 10 Feb 99 17:37:17 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: "Andy Kinsella" Hilda said this... > From: Hilda > > On 07-Feb-99, Matthew O'Neill is alleged to have said... > >From: Matthew O'Neill > > >Hi Hilda > > >On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: > > >>> Just a stupid question, you are not the wife of Oliver Wagner > >>> by chance :)? > > >> Nope! > > >> Hildy > >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) > > >Is it true that women with read hair also....... > ^^^^ > >;) > > No reply as I am still trying to figure out what /read/ hair is. > > But then again, I am a technical idiot :) It sounds rite if you use past tense i guess 8) And "also" what, Mat? Speak up boy :) > Hildy -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From pamiga@channel1.com Thu Feb 11 12:52:48 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1334-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 11 22:55:49 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:55:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:55:48 0000 Received: (qmail 21854 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 1999 22:55:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 21672 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 22:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO user1.channel1.com) (199.1.13.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 22:55:37 -0000 Received: from channel1.com (pamiga@remote213.channel1.com [204.96.32.213]) by user1.channel1.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA11510 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:55:20 -0500 (EST) From: peter mysliwy To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:52:48 +0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: peter mysliwy Hello Ken This is about the third letter that I have read about hard driver problems this as I my self am getting similar problems. I totally just lost my seagate 2 gig hard drive the boot block became bad and I can not write to them. This was for no reason that I could find. Is thier a Virus going around? I don't know But i am starting to think so. Before the scsi HD went down my main 1.3gig (IDE) went down total loss could not recover any files with AMI-Tools (which is strange). How do we check for a current virus? I have ran most of the software from aminet. They say nothing found. On 11-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Ken > > I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, where software hut's current > repairman didn't... > > Basically here's what did happen in case someone has suggestions. I can > still access onelist from the library computer so mail will be small to > non-existant till I get the ami back up to par. > > Couple weeks back, had to do a guru reset, ami didn't come back up . just > sat there with the green screen. Eventually much fiddling and resets later > it did come back up. > > Later on in the week repeated this process only it never came back. Off to > software hut. 1 week and I'm told the hard drive about a year old maybe, > bit the big one ? HUH ??? I just ran hdtools 'check data' option and it > came back with ZERO errors. Hasn't been a bad sector on this drive since I > got it. > > So Software hut says they got it back to booting (NOT !). I don't consider > a machine that runs when cool and fails hot as repaired because it's been > off long enough to cool down and run. So after $90+ and a week, it's now up > to me to trace the prob down. > > The hard drive is full of hard sector errors. It takes maybe 30 minutes to > format a 200 meg partition now. And the sectors are still shot. > > I still have the 'when it heats up it dies' problem. Which makes me think > several things, but if we have any ami mechs here , maybe you have some > input. > > Anyways my thoughts on what the prob is start with the power supply > voltages, then go to the scsi controller. Those are my two ideas on what > the problem is. > > Has anyone else seen this ? Then there's the other thing that makes me > think huh ? how can it be scsi when the CD drive works fine ? I don't > expect any hard sector errors on the cd, but if it's the scsi controller > (which would be #2 in the troubleshooting) why isn't it also affecting the > CD ? > > Oh why I don't think the problem is the hard drive. 1st Like I said I ran > HDTOOLS just a few days before this all this went south, > and came up with NO ERRORS.. 2nd I also completely removed the 1.3 gig > hd and stuck the original 100 meg in. heating problem kept it from booting. > So until I can get the heating > problem to repeat and then stick the 100 meg back in, I really have no > idea if the 1.3 gig hd is dead or not. It has lost almost all data. > including all my ace work directories. But like I said before this > thing > died, I already have every single piece backed up.. 3rd I'm using the > amiga right now after an overnight cooldown. Trouble is the > hard sector errors have migrated to the whole drive > > I wonder if a virus could have caused all this ? Other than the aminet CD's > I can't think where the virus came from.. > > Anyways if anyone else has seen this same problem and came up with a fix, > I'd like all suggestions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Fri Feb 12 02:08:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1335-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 01:13:17 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:13:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:13:16 0000 Received: (qmail 9078 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 01:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9022 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 01:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 01:13:29 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-26.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.29]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09757 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:12:47 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Ken Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:08:39 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: Colin Wenzel On 12-Feb-99, Ken wrote: -snip- >Have you seen what I described, and have some useful input on it ? >I got the freeze spray in case it was a faulty chip. But I need it to fail to >use the spray which gave me time to think whats actually happening. >HDTools says I have a hardware error 2!. I have no troubleshooting books that >even tell me what hardware error numbers mean. That makes me think SCSI >controller or maybe a fluctuating power supply. Being a Tech myself, I would just say: Be carefull using freeze spray, apply it slooooooowly to semiconductors, as the sudden cold shock can damage the device itself... Also, a hair dryer is required too... However, it will ultimately show up the thermal intermittent, providing that you can establish a 'reliably faulty' condition to base your tests on. The other thing that is important is: 1: Remove all sundry cards & periferals that are not needed for the test. 2: If you suspect a device, (eg: HardDrive) Change it with another one first. 3: Remove all but the chip ram, if you can, just incase it's a funky zip. 4: Use the logic: "If you don't know what it is, find out what it isn't." -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From henrik.holst@ecovision.se Fri Feb 12 09:51:05 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1336-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 08:50:57 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:50:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:50:56 0000 Received: (qmail 9091 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 08:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 9054 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 08:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail) (194.52.57.153) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 08:50:37 -0000 From: Henrik Holst Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 9:51:05 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com, cbminfo@digital.net X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /220000000/220040146/220000212/220080140/ Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: hard drive Message-Id: <19990212085056.8783380dc19211d2bcb50060974be5e3.in@mail.thefree.net> From: Henrik Holst >From: Ken > >I suspect the controller but have no way to check it. And software hut wasn't >any real help. They just said the HD is shot. Makes no sense one day perfect >next day looks like it was at Hiroshima. I would suggest that you took it out and tested if on someone elses controller, to make sure what is really faulty (the controller of the hdd). ***************************************************** Henrik Holst Ecovision AB Tel: +46(0)31 684958 Fax: +46(0)31 683785 Mobil: +46(0)709 679016 E-mail Address: henrik.holst@ecovision.se Home Page: http://www.ecovision.se ***************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Fri Feb 12 16:34:24 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1337-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 15:55:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:55:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:55:34 0000 Received: (qmail 16356 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 15:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16349 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 15:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 15:55:38 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137085.voyager.net [209.153.137.85]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id KAA13177 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:34:24 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3k problem From: jack york Hello Ken On 11-Feb-99, Ken wrote: > From: Ken > > I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, where software hut's current > repairman didn't... > > Basically here's what did happen in case someone has suggestions. I can still > access onelist from the library computer so mail will be small to non-existant > till I get the ami back up to par. > > Couple weeks back, had to do a guru reset, ami didn't come back up . just sat > there with the green screen. Eventually much fiddling and resets later it did > come back up. Just a thought, and I may be totally off base here, but it seems I remember reading somewhere that a green screen indicated a memory problem (although I would think Software Hut would know this). Still, reseating the memory chips would be worth a try. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Fri Feb 12 17:18:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1338-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 16:20:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:20:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:20:53 0000 Received: (qmail 25743 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 16:20:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25736 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 16:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 16:20:11 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137122.voyager.net [209.153.137.122]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id LAA18850 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:21:28 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] EPS images From: jack york Hello, I just got a CD with hundreds of EPS images on it and the only way I know of to display them is to load each one into PageStream. Is there a viewer that will quickly display an EPS image like there are for JPEGS, GIFS and the like? Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From instantprint@allcomm.co.uk Fri Feb 12 18:13:14 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1339-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 17:11:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:11:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:11:25 0000 Received: (qmail 5391 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 17:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5384 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 17:10:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brains.allcomm.co.uk) (195.74.100.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 17:10:45 -0000 Received: from andrew (dial53.allcomm.co.uk [195.74.100.117]) by brains.allcomm.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA19154 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:16:51 GMT Message-ID: <000601be56ab$01e47ba0$0e0c7b8f@andrew> From: "Andrew McCombe" To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:13:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: EPS images From: "Andrew McCombe" try metaview - I think you have to register it to batch convert stuff, but it does handle eps's. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Thu Feb 11 22:53:05 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1340-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 12 19:18:17 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:18:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:18:16 0000 Received: (qmail 6753 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 1999 19:17:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6746 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 19:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.213) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 19:17:31 -0000 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail8.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10BNbP-000375-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:46:11 +0000 Received: from modem-108.lipitor.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.76.236] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10BN6X-0001MS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:14:18 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:53:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Hilda On 10-Feb-99, you wrote: >>> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >> Is it true that women with read hair also....... > No reply as I am still trying to figure out what /read/ hair is. read? oh it's somewhere between blonde and red ;) > But then again, I am a technical idiot :) B) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sat Feb 13 15:00:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1351-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 13 14:00:32 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:00:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:00:31 0000 Received: (qmail 29844 invoked by alias); 13 Feb 1999 13:59:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29834 invoked from network); 13 Feb 1999 13:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 1999 13:59:24 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp34.cubenet.de[194.97.90.34]) (1443 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:04:08 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:59:18 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5761.A73BA220.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:00:53 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: Oliver Kastl On Saturday, February 13, 1999 11:11 AM, Tim Corringham [SMTP:tim@ramjam.u-net.com] wrote: > You basically have two choices: Three! > > 1) download the latest TD64 and FFS stuff from http://www.amiga.de/ > > These allow you to use FFS with drives > 4GB > > 2) Buy PFS2. It copes with drives up to 2TG (= 2000GB!), and is much > faster than FFS. > > I prefer PFS2 because I sell it ;-) > 3) Get SFS from Aminet. It is still beta, but the same is true for option 1) I prefer SFS because it is better than 1) and free :-) Cheers, Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 18:18:25 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1216-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 18:36:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:36:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:36:43 0000 Received: (qmail 1573 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 18:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1521 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 18:36:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 18:36:48 -0000 Received: from dialup-14-03.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-14-03.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.231.131]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23239 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:36:29 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 18:18:25 +0100 Message-Id: <36B49E71.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > > I must disagree with You, on a couple of points, here :- > > All Commodore were doing 6 years ago were "box shifting" > > stuff they had developed a year, to 18 months previously, so > > it's about 8 years we have been left in limbo. *BUT, STILL* the > > user base was holding up, until about 2 years ago, about the same time > > as the Internet exploded onto (into?) the scene, in a big way. > > Looking through the back issues of My Amiga magazines, I noticed they > > all had good circulation figures *until* they started "talking up" > > the internet, and sales plummeted --- coincidence ? I don't think so. > > I should have been more clear. I agree that commodore was not doing much. > In fact you could make a good argument that in all the years that commodore > owned the amiga they only made slight improvements to an original design > that they had nothing to do with. In my comment I was refering to serious > development from third parties. I know there were some companies who > supported the amiga after commodores demise, but not many. And even > the companies that did not desert the platform, were much more cautious > in their development. I certainly do not blame the companies, after all they > have a buisness to run. On the issue of the user base holding up untill about > two years ago. I think that depends on where you live. The user base in the > US was very small even in the last days of Commodore. When commodore > went under it quickly got worse. In fact the name recongnition of the amiga > in the US is almost down to zero, if you are talking about "normal", noncomputer > types. I imagine things were diffrent in Europe where the amiga had always been > a more "popular" machine. Yes, but surely, most companies still made money, and thought of the Amiga as a still viable platform, even after Commodore's demise (at least that appeared to be the case in the UK). I'm basing My case on reading through back issues of the UK Amiga press. Three to four years ago there were lots of advertisers in the mags, of which we had five or six here --- all with a healthy circulation figure. Then along comes the IT revolution *AND BANG!!!* a downward spiral 'til only one title is available, and it's circulation is such, that, if not for the other titles the group has it would go out of circulation also. > > > > I agree with You about the Amigas' greatness, but where's the > > greatness in browsers that have more crashes than Stevie Wonders' > > Caddilac ? More hangs than a vigalante group ? > > Don't complain about current amiga software. Ibrowse is basicly developed by > one person in his spare time. Yet amiga users want all the features of IE > and Netscape. These programs have hundreds of people in the development. > It's not that I wouldn't like a better browser, I just think until the > amiga's position improves you have to be realistic. I would NEVER knock the people who write for the Amiga -- if only I were half as talented. But let Me make My point, in a different manner Let's, just for a minute leave aside all internet soft, and hardware. Then look at Your computer --- what do You see? a brilliant, super efficient machine more than adequate for Your needs? probably (no -- definately!!). Now do it the other way, and evaluate Your machine with only the internet in mind. Not quite the same glow of satisfaction there is there? I know there are valid reasons why the software isn't up to scratch, even the hadware is a bit "flakey" , in as much as You need to bolt things on, in a heath robinsonesque way. But, giving reasons why, doesn't alter the fact that the internet (I feel) has done more harm, than good to the amiga community. It's a bit like a drug, this internet --- You always want more, and more. You don't get it from an Amiga, so You leave the platform, and go somewhere where it's "happening", ------ no? > > > > I think, it's just a case of "soldiering on" with what We have, and > > hope that this is the nadir, and that, soon, once again, We will be > > able to say to all those doubters --- "*TOLD YOU SO!!*" > > > > > Sankey > > > > PS > > > Why is it, that now there is talk of an upturn in the Amigas' > > fortunes, all the gamesplayers come out of the woodwork, and start > > rattling on about how great it will be to be able to play the > > "bestest" games ever ? Ain't that where Commodore fu*&ud up. by > > selling the Amiga as a games machine. (contoversy & debate (part 2) > > You could not be more right. Amiga Inc should build a great computer. If > that computer has great games fine, but that should never be the focus you > can't compete with the consoles. > Glad You agree with Me on that one that could "rattle a few cages" Sankey PS Talking of the Amiga community, does it annoy anyone else when You see an article in the Amiga press that goes along the lines of "I have this A500, with 1meg ram, and a broken mouse, and dirty keyboard. I am writing to complain that all Your pages are full of stuff I can't use. Please see to it that next month's coverdisk is filled to the brim with stuff written for w/b 1.3 ------ OR ELSE! ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 18:38:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1217-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 19:30:42 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:42 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:42 0000 Received: (qmail 29567 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 19:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29432 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO camelot.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: from dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.56]) by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28016 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:15 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 18:38:47 +0100 Message-Id: <36B4A337.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Brian > > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > > > With no developement for the past 6 years the amiga would be in trouble > > with or without the internet. It is a tribute to the machine's greatness > > that there is any user base at all. If anything the intermet saved the > > amiga because it kept a small core community of users together. Without > the > > internet that community may not have existed at the time of the Gateway > > purchase and Gateway may have opted to take the patents and do nothing. > > Yeah. Although the Internet does do the amiga harm, it also does it more > good. If there was no internet, we wouldn't have all these MLs, all the > newsgroups, and above all, the one thing which keeps the amiga going, the > Aminet and all it's contrubuters. Remember that > > Regards > -- *CURSES!!!!!!* got Me on that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) But the Aminet is out on a regular basis, on CD? Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 19:21:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1219-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 19:30:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:43 0000 Received: (qmail 30188 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 19:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29921 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 19:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO camelot.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 19:44:16 -0000 Received: from dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.56]) by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28022 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:17 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 19:21:32 +0100 Message-Id: <36B4AD3C.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Frank > > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > > > Well I must admit that I have given up using my beloved Amiga for web > > surfing. I just cannot justify spending more money on my A1200 to try > > and keep up with the rapid developments in software that Microsoft and > > Netscape are doing - it was just hopeless trying to read web pages with > > Amiga browsers. > > Why? only about 1% of web pages use all the fancy stuff, so why not? I can't help, but feel sad at Your comment about "fancy stuff". For one thing, the "fancy stuff" is what is being written NOW, and is what is called progress --- something we Amigans were at the forefront of. In fact we still are, in areas /other/ than the internet. For another thing --- 1% ? even if that figure were correct (and I must say, I doubt it) then by the time You read this, it's at least gone up to 1 1/2%, and by the morning, possibly 2%. Most of the commercial sites use Java applets, and such-like, and to access them only to have One's computer crash, when using the 2 non Javascript browsers we have, or to spend most of the time on-line clicking error requesters, or save windows closed, using the one that does,does not enhance one's time on-line. > > We have the best mailer and IRC program on any platform, and even PC users > are jeleous of them. YAM and AMIRC, they cannot be beaten. Can't comment on AMIRC --- don't use it that much. As to YAM, I had a BIG problem with it, when I installed v 6. It just dropped the files anywhere it wanted. after getting it all together it worked fine for a while, then just ceased to work, for some reason. I use Microdot now, until I can sort Yam out > > As for hardware, an 030 card with 16megs cost about 100 quid What should be said here is :- ANOTHER 100 quid --- and You still won't be able to use any of the latest AVI's, or RM/RA files. that might drop into Your cache. Do You now see, why I made My original statement ? Sankey Remember it's only "controversy & debate, and not to be taken /too/ seriously ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sanky@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Jan 31 18:34:31 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1218-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 19:30:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:43 0000 Received: (qmail 11008 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 19:32:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10757 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 19:31:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO camelot.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 19:31:50 -0000 Received: from dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-00-56.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.56]) by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28012 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:30:14 GMT From: "SANKEY" Organization: Private User Date: 31 Jan 99 18:34:31 +0100 Message-Id: <36B4A237.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: "SANKEY" > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi SANKEY > > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > > > I think, the biggest, if not, the ONLY factor, in the demise of the > > "classic" Amiga user - base is this thing we are all on --------- > > *THE INTERNET!!!!* > > It would have been a good idea to tell us why.... > > Regards > -- Please see further postings Sankey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Jan 31 20:42:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1220-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 19:43:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:43:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:43:44 0000 Received: (qmail 9018 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 19:57:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8865 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 19:57:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 19:57:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-038.enterprise.net [194.72.198.38]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12581 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:43:20 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:42:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B4A337.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > *CURSES!!!!!!* got Me on that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) > But the Aminet is out on a regular basis, on CD? You think people would send nearly as much if they couldn't upload it with FTP? I know I wouldn't. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sun Jan 31 00:07:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1221-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 21:04:04 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:04:04 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:03:58 0000 Received: (qmail 21774 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 21:20:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 18539 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 21:18:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 21:18:57 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.177] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id wa704648 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:00:06 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:07:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wolfendoom From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Larry! On 30-Gen-99, you wrote: > Hi. I recently ran across some Wolfenstein wads for use with Doom2. Has > anyone had any luck getting these to work? In fact I havn't had any luck > with any custom wads. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Are you sure that is possible to run a port of Doom with Doom2 and a Wolfenstein wad? I remember when I used ADoom 1.2 with the commercial wad of Doom2 and a custom wad, and worked perfectly. Maybe a corrupted wad? The Wolfenstein 3D wad aren't compatible with Doom2? You're using the Doom2 main wad of the shareware version? -- Riccardo Cretti - CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Jan 31 21:20:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1222-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Jan 31 22:17:28 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:17:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:17:26 0000 Received: (qmail 13016 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 1999 22:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12858 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1999 22:18:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1999 22:18:36 -0000 Received: from modem-44.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.44] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1075Ap-0007ib-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:17:00 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B4A337.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Matthew O'Neill Hi SANKEY On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > *CURSES!!!!!!* got Me on that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) > But the Aminet is out on a regular basis, on CD? You think all the stuff appears on there by magic!!?? It's called the Ami*NET* because stuff is uploaded every minute of the day via the *net* Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From peter@hard.u-net.com Mon Feb 01 05:07:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1223-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 04:08:32 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:08:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:08:26 0000 Received: (qmail 732 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 04:10:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31713 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 04:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 04:09:19 -0000 Received: from [195.102.196.84] (helo=p84.nas1.is3.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 107Abr-0007d8-00; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:05:16 +0000 From: "Dral" Organization: Canals: Roots & Routes - http://www.blacksheep.org/canals/dral/index.htm Date: 1 Feb 99 04:07:00 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] CD Rom Questions From: "Dral" Hi Folks, I'm finally being forced into a corner! After fighting the inevitable for a year or so I'm now beginning to find it very hard to get certain software on floppy. For the first time I'm seriously thinking about buying a CD ROM. (I have an Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 1230 accelerator including 8 megs of extra ram. Internal HD and two external floppy drives). Questions... (1) What needs to be done to fit an internal CD ROM? Can *anybody* do it or should only /experts/ do it? (2) Where does an external CD ROM plug into an A1200? (3) Most of all, does anybody have a list (or URL) which has a selection of CD ROMs, UK retailers and UK prices? (4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you recommend it? Thanks in advance, Dral -- Dral dral@hard.u-net.com http://www.blacksheep.org/canals/dral/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Mon Feb 01 08:16:59 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1224-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 07:20:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:20:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:20:05 0000 Received: (qmail 27259 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 07:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27095 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 07:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO asdo.se) (194.218.132.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 07:17:31 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se ([194.132.65.86]) by gateway.asdo.se with ESMTP id <28682>; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:18:46 +0100 Received: by SEG0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:14:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:16:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > "Dral" wrote: > >(2) Where does an external CD ROM plug into an A1200? >(4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you >recommend it? I've got a SurfSquirrel SCSI hooked on the PCMCIA-port. Works OK and was easy to install. Magnus Computers are tools, but the Amiga is an instrument. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Mon Feb 01 01:46:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1225-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 07:54:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:54:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:54:58 0000 Received: (qmail 7927 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 07:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 7905 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 07:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 07:51:53 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0341.claranet.co.uk [195.8.90.87]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12441 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:52:29 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 00:46:28 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CONTROVERSY & DEBATE (PART 1) From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 31-Jan-99, Matthew O'Neill wrote: > Hi Frank > > On 31-Jan-99, you wrote: > >> Well I must admit that I have given up using my beloved Amiga for web >> surfing. I just cannot justify spending more money on my A1200 to try >> and keep up with the rapid developments in software that Microsoft and >> Netscape are doing - it was just hopeless trying to read web pages with >> Amiga browsers. > > Why? only about 1% of web pages use all the fancy stuff, so why not? HTML 4 is all we *really* need... Java* would be nice, but isn't needed usually - a lot of PPL just end up disabling them, anyway :) > We have the best mailer and IRC program on any platform, and even PC users > are jeleous of them. YAM and AMIRC, they cannot be beaten. That's a matter of opinion. AmIRC may be about the best IRC client on Earth, but Yam is far from being the perfect mailer. Users of other OS's would be hard pressed to beat NewsRog, though, so I'm told... > As for hardware, an 030 card with 16megs cost about 100 quid And is pretty laughable... Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different.# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 15524 2^28 blocks done -- We are Superconducter of Borg. Resistance is zero. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From us@timaru.com Mon Feb 01 22:45:38 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1226-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 08:46:04 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:46:04 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:46:03 0000 Received: (qmail 9504 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 08:46:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 9401 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 08:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tish.timaru.com) (210.55.182.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 08:46:04 -0000 Received: from timaru.com (us@C37-ts1.timaru.com [210.55.182.82]) by tish.timaru.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA24381 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:53:34 +1300 From: Lisa Purcell To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:45:38 GMT-13 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] help with Telnet From: Lisa Purcell Hello I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? Where and how to I get it? How do I use it? Many thanks -Lisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Feb 01 20:02:59 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1227-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 19:04:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:04:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:04:25 0000 Received: (qmail 6501 invoked by alias); 2 Feb 1999 19:04:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 6355 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1999 19:04:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 19:04:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-014.enterprise.net [194.72.198.14]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA11876 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:04:06 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:02:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Hello > I am new to this list and Amigas and Computers!!! > I would appreciate some info on Telnet.i.e. What is it? > Where and how to I get it? > How do I use it? > Many thanks > -Lisa I don't know any details, but its basically BBS' across the internet. I don't know any Telnet sites, except my ISP's email server (to change passwords etc.) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Mon Feb 01 19:51:50 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1228-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 01 19:11:41 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:11:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:11:28 0000 Received: (qmail 17250 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 1999 19:08:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16913 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1999 19:08:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 1999 19:08:14 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t3o68p78.telia.com [62.20.139.78]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20386 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:29 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Dral Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD Rom Questions From: Linus Akesson On 01-Feb-99, Dral (peter@hard.u-net.com) wrote: >(4) Those who have a CD ROM already, what do you have and would you >recommend it? >Thanks in advance, Dral I have a.. humm.. wait... "CyberDrive"? Yeah, that's what it says. Okay, so it works OK but it's a bit peculiar when it comes to playing audio cds. Sometimes you can hear some ticks & tacks or something while playing. And it goes through the audio lines, it's not just the cd player humming. But it works fine for data cds. 24x, connects as an IDE drive (i.e. if you only have an internal harddrive it might be difficult to fix all the cables and stuff yourself). It's actually an internal cd drive but I have it on the table (with my harddrive on top). Linus .--> ____ | \OO/ - -- --- ------ Linus Akesson -- http://fly.to/linus.world -. `-OoO-\/-OoO---------------------------------------------------------------' "I don't mind the off topic posts but at least give them the right topic!" -- MashMan, in a moment of slight confusion? --> MrCookie v1.1 by L. Akesson (text/misc/MrCookie.lha) <-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Sun Feb 14 02:37:31 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1360-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 01:43:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:43:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:43:47 0000 Received: (qmail 31309 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 01:42:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 31301 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 01:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.primenet.com) (206.165.6.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 01:42:14 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03889 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:43:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-090.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.90), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpda03815; Sat Feb 13 18:43:04 1999 From: Hilda To: Stephen Williams Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:37:31 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Hilda On 13-Feb-99, Stephen Williams is alleged to have said... >From: Stephen Williams >Hi y'all >Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects >on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my >Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) >I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how >effective they are, or if they're worth the money. >-Stephen I've never kept my keyboard covered and .... I smoke...so little bits of ash get everywhere - and then there's cat hair... I used canned air. My computer is in my art studio and I have a small air brush that I use to blow out the keyboard every once in a while. You can buy cannned air at any computer store, though. I also blew out the inside of the Amiga case one time, the only time I got the Dreaded Green Screen. It worked. Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cameronl@astra.global.net.uk Sun Feb 14 03:25:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1361-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 02:30:40 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:30:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:30:39 0000 Received: (qmail 912 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 02:32:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 889 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 02:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sand.global.net.uk) (194.126.82.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 02:32:17 -0000 Received: from client9524.globalnet.co.uk ([194.126.95.36] helo=default) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10BrK2-0004j2-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:30:16 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990214022557.007fd6a0@mail.globalnet.co.uk> X-Sender: cameronl@mail.globalnet.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:25:57 +0000 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Cameron Lister In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Cameron Lister At 11:38 13/02/99 +0000, you wrote: >From: Stephen Williams > >Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects >on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my >Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) Have you tried dropping it on the floor? I did that to a PC keyboard once and all the keys flew off. Not only could I clean all the grot from the keys, I could also replace them (the keys, not the grot) to form some rude words! Of course it was a works machine so any damage caused was incidental and the owner was an American officer so there was no harm done. One important point to note is that this will only be effective with an A1000/1500/2000/2500/3000/4000 keyboard. For other machines, it may be a good idea to remove the mother board, hard drive, floppy drive, power supply, etc, etc, before subjecting it to a collision with a concrete floor! #1 in a series of useless tips, courtesy of: Author of lots of things Currently unavailable due to the scam merchants at easyspace.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Feb 14 04:08:07 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1362-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 03:11:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:11:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:11:34 0000 Received: (qmail 19718 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 03:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19588 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-16.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.19]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24692 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:11:04 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Tim Corringham Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:08:07 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: Colin Wenzel On 13-Feb-99, Tim Corringham wrote: >From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) >Hi ken >> From: ken >> >> Is anyone using a 4.5 gig Quantum HD on their a3k ? I just picked one up >> today, but had no idea 4 gig was the max. I ran across something called >> giga.device on aminet, says the big drive needs to be dev 0. Thats all fine >> and good, but my a3k looks at dev0 to boot from. I've tried hooking a system >> up to a floppy, a 100 meg hd, and a 1.3 gig (almost shot Quantum HD). >> The 100 is dev 6, the 1.3 gig also is dev 6. giga device (until registered >can >> only access as dev/unit 0.. >> >> Anyone else hooked up with a gig drive over 4 gigs ? >> >Yes, lots of us :-) >You basically have two choices: >1) download the latest TD64 and FFS stuff from http://www.amiga.de/ > These allow you to use FFS with drives > 4GB >2) Buy PFS2. It copes with drives up to 2TG (= 2000GB!), and is much > faster than FFS. > I prefer PFS2 because I sell it ;-) >Regards, > Tim You forgot to tell him to make sure that with the new FFS from amiga.de, you have to make sure the 'InterNational Mode' is ON in HDToolbox & when you format the drive. Also Note: He MUST NOT long format the partitions. 'Format' has a bug:- Use Format with the QUICK option ONLY, on drives over 4 gig. But don't forget to setup the SCSI_IDE-43.24 patches first. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Feb 14 04:39:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1363-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 03:44:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:44:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:44:31 0000 Received: (qmail 271 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 03:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 265 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 03:42:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 03:42:43 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-16.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.19]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25172 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:44:05 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:39:13 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Colin Wenzel On 14-Feb-99, Andy Kinsella wrote: >> From: Stephen Williams >> >> Hi y'all >> >> Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects >> on the sides of keycaps? -snip- In Australia we have a product called 'Windex' a blue liquid in a spray bottle for cleaning windows, smells a bit like weak ammonia. Pop off your key tops & put them in an ice-cream bucket & spray window cleaner on them, add a little cold water & slosh them around, then tip out the stuff & rinse in cold water..... Just like new.... No rubbing either.... PS: I would avoid using any solvents like methylated spirits or such, it may melt the plastic or the letters.... -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 14 11:36:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1366-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 15:08:45 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:08:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:08:45 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) id QQgcne02029 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9799 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 11:33:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9769 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 11:33:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 11:33:49 -0000 Received: from modem-92.thalium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.40.92] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Bzpg-0000nf-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:35:28 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:36:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Pat On 13-Feb-99, you wrote: > I live in a very dusty area and have to frequently turn the keyboard > upside down and give it a hard shake to knock out the bread crumbs etc. I Do breadcrumbs count as dust !? Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Sun Feb 14 15:55:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1367-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 15:15:25 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:15:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:15:25 0000 Received: (qmail 14991 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 15:13:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 14985 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 15:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 15:13:23 -0000 Received: from (p97.nas2.is4.u-net.net) [195.102.198.225] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10C3GV-0005mE-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:15:24 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 14 Feb 99 14:55:44 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000446] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Nick Bergquist" Hi Pat, > From: Pat Kushko > > I live in a very dusty area and have to frequently turn the keyboard > upside down and give it a hard shake to knock out the bread crumbs etc. [..] Here in Europe most civilised folk have been getting used to a remarkable device known as a 'plate' for some time. It seems to cope well with the spillage of most food items although some have to be transferred to a version with upturned sides known as a 'bowl'. Having said this, these contraptions cause their own problems in that we now need three hands: one to move the mouse/type, one to eat with and one to hold this plate thing. BTW isn't bread crumbs a little on the large side to be considered as dust? Yours helpfully, Nick Bergquist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Sun Feb 14 10:27:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1364-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 16:24:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:24:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:24:01 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) id QQgcmv29061 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 04:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7697 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 09:26:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7692 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 09:26:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 09:26:11 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10BxqK-0001Gv-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:28:00 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Sun, 14 Feb 99 09:27:35 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Sat, 13 Feb 99 16:55:35) Lines: 19 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi Andy > I once bought a used Amiga that was filthy. I had to completely strip > it down and take off all the keys and throw the lot in the bathtub and > get scrubbing 8] I remember at the UK DevCon where they announced the A1200 to the UK developers, the first question from the floor was "is the case dishwasher safe?" which wasn't a question they were expecting! Incidentally, it is ;-) Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 14 11:28:55 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1365-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 16:51:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:51:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:51:09 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) id QQgcne25979 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26482 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 11:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26474 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 11:35:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 11:35:49 -0000 Received: from modem-92.thalium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.40.92] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Bzpc-0000nf-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:35:26 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:28:55 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Stephen On 13-Feb-99, you wrote: > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. 2 methods i use. 1: get some cotton buds on small sticks (come in packs of 200 or so) and just use a little water on them. press the key next to it and wipe, simple. 2: unscrew the amiga and disconnect the keyboard. you can now use whatever method you like, very easy to do Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun Feb 14 19:55:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1368-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 18:55:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:55:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:55:17 0000 Received: (qmail 31648 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 18:55:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 31390 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (2266 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:55:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:55:53 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Pat Kushko On 14 Feb 1999, Nick Bergquist wrote: > From: "Nick Bergquist" > > Hi Pat, > > > From: Pat Kushko > > > > I live in a very dusty area and have to frequently turn the keyboard > > upside down and give it a hard shake to knock out the bread crumbs etc. > [..] > > Here in Europe most civilised folk have been getting used to a > remarkable device known as a 'plate' for some time. It seems to cope > well with the spillage of most food items although some have to be > transferred to a version with upturned sides known as a 'bowl'. Having > said this, these contraptions cause their own problems in that we now > need three hands: one to move the mouse/type, one to eat with and one > to hold this plate thing. BTW isn't bread crumbs a little on the large > side to be considered as dust? > > Yours helpfully, Obviously I missed the mark... a little humour and I'm swamped with definations of 'bread crumbs'. Lighten up peons... not to mention devices that try to replace hotdog buns and taco shells. Way off topic... Get back to 'how to get that dirty mark off my Amiga case' and 'The easiest ways to freshen and clean plastic cases'. I personally use soap & water on a cloth (just dampened) for the most part (downtown dust does not dislodge with a feather brush anymore), rubbing alchol does a good job with finger grease, and white gas (Coleman Stove Fuel) does a marvious job at really severe cases, beyond that; acetone melts plastic.. use it in a well ventilated area and you can sculpt with it:) (that's another bit of humour.. for those that thought it was advice). -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 14 18:14:48 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1369-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 19:09:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:09:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:09:09 0000 Received: (qmail 6390 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 19:07:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 6348 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 19:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 19:06:57 -0000 Received: from modem-117.arsenic.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.16.117] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10C6uP-000197-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:08:50 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:14:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Nick On 14-Feb-99, you wrote: > Here in Europe most civilised folk have been getting used to a > remarkable device known as a 'plate' for some time. It seems to cope > well with the spillage of most food items although some have to be > transferred to a version with upturned sides known as a 'bowl'. Having > said this, these contraptions cause their own problems in that we now > need three hands: one to move the mouse/type, one to eat with and one > to hold this plate thing. BTW isn't bread crumbs a little on the large > side to be considered as dust? No, only 2 hands needed. I heard rumours that someone had invented a portble version which can actually fold up into your pocket and doesn't need holding! Most romours have confirmed the production name as "bib" but you didn't hear this from me, wink wink, mums the word... Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Feb 14 13:26:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1370-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 19:20:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:20:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:20:51 0000 Received: (qmail 23294 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 19:18:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 18827 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 19:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 19:14:39 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere([194.97.90.36]) (1705 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:30:58 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:24:36 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:26:13 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE581D.97C4B720.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:26:13 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Buddha problem From: Oliver Kastl On Saturday, February 13, 1999 5:22 PM, Jonas Thorell [SMTP:jonasth@bahnhof.se] wrote: > From: "Jonas Thorell" > I'm using a Buddha IDE-interface in my A3000 and am trying to use two > things > on it, on separate IDE-channels. One 500 meg harddisk and one CD-changer. > > So far, no problem. I can access one or the other but not at the same > time! > If the CD-changer is attached to the Buddha, the harddisk is invisible > to > every program that inquires the bus to what devices it has. Remove the > changer and I can do whatever I please to the harddisk. I really don't > understand this since both channels seem to work just fine. This is weird, to say the least. I haven't seen this happen before. Probably you should contact the maker of the board at http://www.jschoenfeld.com Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bloelle@polbox.com Sun Feb 14 12:16:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1371-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 19:23:01 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:23:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:23:01 0000 Received: (qmail 5420 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 19:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 3734 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 19:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.polbox.com) (212.244.200.11) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 19:19:35 -0000 Received: from smtp.polbox.com (Hornet@ppp-cen241.czestochowa.tpnet.pl [194.204.180.241]) by mx1.polbox.com (8.9.1/rev-A0) with SMTP id UAA32329 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:08:33 +0100 From: Mikolaj Calusinski To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:16:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 4.5gigs From: Mikolaj Calusinski Hello Colin, on 14-Feb-99 you wrote: > You forgot to tell him to make sure that with the new FFS from amiga.de, > you have to make sure the 'InterNational Mode' is ON in HDToolbox > & when you format the drive. Not necessarily. You may load ffs by LoadV43Module (just like the new scsi) so the new version will completely replace filesystem from ROM (also on floppies and in OFS mode). But one should have fast memory with KICK attribute set for this method to be efficient or ffs will operate from chip ram. Regards -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikolaj Calusinski - MM - bloelle@priv.gold.pl A1200/E-Box/040@33MHz/48MB/WD2.1GB/MITSUMI 4x/FHD+2FDD/Zoltrix33.6 Pure Amiga Fanatic ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sun Feb 14 21:03:24 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1372-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 20:10:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:10:51 0000 Received: (qmail 7038 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 20:08:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6963 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 20:08:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 20:08:18 -0000 Received: from pm3-25.bahnhof.se (pm3-25.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.158]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA09560 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:08:04 +0100 (MET) Date: 14 Feb 99 21:03:24 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Oliver Kastl" In-Reply-To: <01BE581D.97C4B720.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> Message-ID: <1490.714T1214T12633763@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: "Jonas Thorell" Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: >> I'm using a Buddha IDE-interface in my A3000 and am trying to use two >> things on it, on separate IDE-channels. One 500 meg harddisk and one >> CD-changer. So far, no problem. I can access one or the other but not at the same >> time! If the CD-changer is attached to the Buddha, the harddisk is invisible >> to every program that inquires the bus to what devices it has. Remove the >> changer and I can do whatever I please to the harddisk. I really don't >> understand this since both channels seem to work just fine. >This is weird, to say the least. I haven't seen this happen before. >Probably you should contact the maker of the board at I have. No answer yet though. Thing is, it used to work the way it's meant to. With an ordinary CD-ROM attached as well. Not the same harddisk though. BTW, how do you turn off/on reselection and last unit and so on for things that are not harddisks? HDinsttools let me do it for HD's but not CD's and streamers. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Give your child mental blocks for Christmas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Feb 14 21:29:07 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1373-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 20:49:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:49:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:49:58 0000 Received: (qmail 12385 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 20:47:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12305 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 20:47:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 20:47:26 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp10.cubenet.de[194.97.90.10]) (1760 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:32:19 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:27:32 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:29:08 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5861.0DEC1400.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:29:07 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: Oliver Kastl On Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:03 PM, Jonas Thorell [SMTP:jonasth@bahnhof.se] wrote: > BTW, how do you turn off/on reselection and last unit and so on for > things that > are not harddisks? HDinsttools let me do it for HD's but not CD's and > streamers. You can't. These flags are stored on the RigisDisk block of an harddisk. As a CD-Rom/Streamer/Scanner.... doesn't have a RDB, you can't store it anywhere! That's why some controllers had Jumpers (ALF-3) or nonvolatile memory (Oktagon). The Buddha has neither. But this doesn't hurt much, as 1) The Buddha is an IDE controller, so you shouldn't worry about Sync bits and Reselection 2) AFAIR it completely ignores the "last lun/drive/controller" bits in any RDB. IDEfix does for sure, I am not 100% sure with the Buddha. (BTW, IDEFix uses its own executable as nonvolatile memory) Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sun Feb 14 22:24:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1374-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 21:40:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:25 0000 Received: (qmail 10284 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 21:38:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10262 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 21:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 21:38:26 -0000 Received: from pm3-05.bahnhof.se (pm3-05.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.138]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18724 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:37:58 +0100 (MET) Date: 14 Feb 99 22:24:53 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Oliver Kastl" In-Reply-To: <01BE5861.0DEC1400.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> Message-ID: <1397.714T2657T13444834@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: "Jonas Thorell" Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: >You can't. These flags are stored on the RigisDisk block of an harddisk. >As a CD-Rom/Streamer/Scanner.... doesn't have a RDB, you can't store it >anywhere! Any program to change it every time I boot up then? In s:user-startup or something? >1) The Buddha is an IDE controller, so you shouldn't worry about Sync bits >and Reselection Perhaps not but I'd like the option for the A3000 internal scsi port. I have yet to find a way to turn off the reselection for my CD-writer. It doesn't behave the way I want it to so I thought I'd give it a try. >2) AFAIR it completely ignores the "last lun/drive/controller" bits in any >RDB. IDEfix does for sure, I am not 100% sure with the Buddha. (BTW, >IDEFix uses its own executable as nonvolatile memory) Hm. Can the mountcd program on Aminet (uploaded by you I think) be used with the Buddha? The one that lets you boot from CD. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Windows: needs only 128 Mb of RAM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Bruser@xs4all.nl Sun Feb 14 22:50:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1375-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 21:54:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:54:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:54:35 0000 Received: (qmail 19864 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 21:54:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19683 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 21:54:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp3.xs4all.nl) (194.109.6.53) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 21:54:36 -0000 Received: from 194.109.6.92 (BruserLee@dc2-modem1546.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.10]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14067; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:54:02 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Bruser To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Oliver Kastl Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <01BE581D.97C4B720.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: Erik Bruser Hello Oliver On 14-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Oliver Kastl > > On Saturday, February 13, 1999 5:22 PM, Jonas Thorell > [SMTP:jonasth@bahnhof.se] wrote: >> From: "Jonas Thorell" >> I'm using a Buddha IDE-interface in my A3000 and am trying to use two >> things >> on it, on separate IDE-channels. One 500 meg harddisk and one > CD-changer. >> >> So far, no problem. I can access one or the other but not at the same >> time! >> If the CD-changer is attached to the Buddha, the harddisk is invisible >> to >> every program that inquires the bus to what devices it has. Remove the >> changer and I can do whatever I please to the harddisk. I really don't >> understand this since both channels seem to work just fine. > > This is weird, to say the least. I haven't seen this happen before. > Probably you should contact the maker of the board at > http://www.jschoenfeld.com > > Cheers, Oliver > > Oliver Kastl > Elaborate Bytes > E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com > http://www.elaborate-bytes.com > > I have a similar problem with a four way-splitter and ide-fix. if I use the extra two channels my dc-rom is no longer recognized. Greetinx Erik Bruser > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > Regards -- ErikB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Sun Feb 14 23:04:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1376-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 22:22:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:22:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:22:52 0000 Received: (qmail 19767 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 22:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 19693 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 22:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 22:18:45 -0000 Received: from (p24.nas1.is4.u-net.net) [195.102.198.24] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10C9uF-0003QL-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:20:51 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 14 Feb 99 22:04:21 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000446] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Nick Bergquist" Hi Pat! > From: Pat Kushko > > Obviously I missed the mark... a little humour and I'm swamped with > definations of 'bread crumbs'. Lighten up peons... not to mention devices > that try to replace hotdog buns and taco shells. Way off topic... Aye - we're just joining in with the humourous aspect. No offence intended! Afterall this is an Amiga discussion group rather than something like 'alt.cleaning-services-tips-n-tricks' ;-) > Get back to 'how to get that dirty mark off my Amiga case' and 'The > easiest ways to freshen and clean plastic cases'. I personally use soap & > water on a cloth (just dampened) for the most part (downtown dust does > not dislodge with a feather brush anymore), rubbing alchol does a good > job with finger grease, and white gas (Coleman Stove Fuel) does a > marvious job at really severe cases, beyond that; acetone melts plastic.. > use it in a well ventilated area and you can sculpt with it:) (that's > another bit of humour.. for those that thought it was advice). I'm going to be sensible now. I use those packs you can get for cleaning audio cassette player heads - the ones with a neat little bottle of alcohol, a strange little foam pad (never worked out what that was for exactly), and loads of cotton wool sticks. The latter get in all the crevices nicely and the alcohol evaporates too quickly to cause trouble underneath the keyboard. Okay, back into bad humour mode - what about using the ex-girlfriend's toothbrush for that ultimate real good shine... Cheers, Nick Bergquist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Feb 14 23:45:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1377-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 14 22:49:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:49:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:49:35 0000 Received: (qmail 764 invoked by alias); 14 Feb 1999 22:47:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 758 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 22:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 22:47:16 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp29.cubenet.de[194.97.90.29]) (2299 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:53:27 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:44:10 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:45:45 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5874.23CC6140.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:45:44 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: Oliver Kastl On Sunday, February 14, 1999 10:25 PM, Jonas Thorell [SMTP:jonasth@bahnhof.se] wrote: > From: "Jonas Thorell" > > Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: > > >You can't. These flags are stored on the RigisDisk block of an harddisk. > > > >As a CD-Rom/Streamer/Scanner.... doesn't have a RDB, you can't store it > > > >anywhere! > > Any program to change it every time I boot up then? In s:user-startup or > something? Maybe - this is controller dependant. > >1) The Buddha is an IDE controller, so you shouldn't worry about Sync > >bits > >and Reselection > > Perhaps not but I'd like the option for the A3000 internal scsi port. I > have yet to find a way to turn off the reselection for my CD-writer. > It doesn't behave the way I want it to so I thought I'd give it a try. I don't think there is one - probably someone else knows? > >2) AFAIR it completely ignores the "last lun/drive/controller" bits in > >any > >RDB. IDEfix does for sure, I am not 100% sure with the Buddha. (BTW, > >IDEFix uses its own executable as nonvolatile memory) > > Hm. Can the mountcd program on Aminet (uploaded by you I think) be used > with the Buddha? The one that lets you boot from CD. Sure (well, I think so - I haven't tried it myself - if you have a recent ROM for the Buddha - the one with atapi support), but take mountcd from my Website. The one on AmiNet is buggy. Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Mon Feb 15 04:41:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1378-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 04:40:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:40:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:40:25 0000 Received: (qmail 12536 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 04:42:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12528 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 04:42:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.primenet.com) (206.165.6.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 04:42:49 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20842 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-014.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.14), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpda20760; Sun Feb 14 21:40:03 1999 From: Hilda To: Chris Seward Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:41:02 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: help with Telnet From: Hilda On 07-Feb-99, Chris Seward is alleged to have said... >Hilda, >On 07-Feb-99, you wrote: >> A single redhead with an Amiga :) >Welcome to JUST-AMiGA dating service, please give full descriptions >of yourself... blab blab blab....... grrwlll. >Male with an Amiga..... woohoo? you decide?! Dear sir, This is a serious list and "just Amiga". If you want to indulge in "dating", "flirting" and other such non-tech issues, I do suggest you hie yourself to the pureamiga list where nothing is off-topic and there are even pictures of all of us posted so that should we ever catch up on our e-mail and decide to indulge in that mysterious activity called a social life, we can rule out the droolers. Nah, it'll never happen :) Hildy -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Mon Feb 15 12:40:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1379-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 11:58:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:58:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:58:13 0000 Received: (qmail 8292 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 11:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8274 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 11:55:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 11:55:31 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp38.cubenet.de[194.97.90.38]) (1106 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:01:55 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:39:05 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:40:37 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE58E0.63860A40.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:40:36 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] To Mikolaj Calusinski: MountCD unit 3 bug From: Oliver Kastl Hi Mikolaj, (sorry to bother everyone else) I tried to reach you by email, but it bounced several times. Thanks for your excellent bug report! I have a fixed version on my Website. Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Mon Feb 15 14:08:57 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1380-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 13:09:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:09:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:09:18 0000 Received: (qmail 9285 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 13:06:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 9220 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 13:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 13:06:24 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA18493 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:08:36 GMT Message-Id: <199902151308.NAA18493@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:08:57 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Lupus Yonderboy On Sun, Feb 14, 1999, at 01:55 PM, Pat Kushko wrote: > From: Pat Kushko [snip] > sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc > MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ^^^^^^^ I know that this is not my business but why not using MCP? I now use MCX since my SCSI died and I am working on quite lame configuration now, but remember MCP 16 months old being better than latest MCX. Especially neat are older versions which still had that awesome 'requester-timeout' feature :) My combination of choice was MCP + Toolsdaemon *sigh* -- PGP keys available via keyservers, finger or at www.rcub.bg.ac.yu/~lupusy Both keys are under the same UserID = 1024-bit RSA key KeyID=9CCDB6E5 fpr = 08104108C9A5352B 780D9A18ED3F8A74 2048-bit RSA key KeyID=43AC2F55 fpr = F516BC335C0BAF86 65DB67A827F266B5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Feb 15 20:10:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1381-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 19:10:11 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:10:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:10:11 0000 Received: (qmail 10197 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 19:10:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9972 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (2395 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:10:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:10:47 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <199902151308.NAA18493@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Pat Kushko > I know that this is not my business but why not using MCP? I now use MCX > since my SCSI died and I am working on quite lame configuration now, but > remember MCP 16 months old being better than latest MCX. Especially neat > are older versions which still had that awesome 'requester-timeout' feature > :) > My combination of choice was MCP + Toolsdaemon *sigh* Really no point in mine is better than yours disscusions. I was along for the ride when MCX first came out and got to like it and the author who disliked millions of hacks in his start-up, and noted most of these hacks were badly programmed. As time passed it became clear to me that it was the most stable of all; at the time. MCP does have a huge amount of extra features, so many that it takes weeks figuring which ones are solid with your hardware and which cause problems and why. Some people swear at it... others swear they can't live without it.. but when you're having problems it's the first thing disabled. Toolsdaemon/Toolmanager is very good and would be my choice of adds to-day, but when I started my custom set-up many moons ago, 'MyMenu' type programs were the way to go. I use Parm (Parmable Menu's) which is an extension to MyMenu's... it allows submenu's, shell executions, batches, and a few other tricks. I got stuck in that and the menuing system has grown to over 860 lines (that's a lot of menu's!:), so this would be a real chore to move over to a more modern menuing system. I have started a newer task bar system 'RunBar' which beats most others out in ease of configurability, allows access to all your system prefs from any screen. But there is a number of contenders for taskbar utilities, so I'm always looking and trying... heck that's half the fun! -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Mon Feb 15 20:45:40 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1382-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 19:51:23 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:23 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:22 0000 Received: (qmail 7377 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 19:48:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7356 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:48:23 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.144] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10CU0h-0000Rz-00; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:48:51 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:45:40 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] DoomAttack source From: Stephen Williams People: Anyone know where I can get the DoomAttack source code from? ISTR the URL was posted here a couple of weeks ago. I didn't need the source then, and didn't make a note of it :-) Cheers, -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Mon Feb 15 20:47:10 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1383-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 19:51:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:23 0000 Received: (qmail 3192 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 19:51:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 3180 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:51:39 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.144] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10CU0i-0000Rz-00; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:48:52 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:47:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990214022557.007fd6a0@mail.globalnet.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Stephen Williams Cameron Lister wrote: > Have you tried dropping it on the floor? [snip] > One important point to note is that this will only be effective with an > A1000/1500/2000/2500/3000/4000 keyboard. For other machines, it may be a > good idea to remove the mother board, hard drive, floppy drive, power > supply, etc, etc, before subjecting it to a collision with a concrete > floor! Indeed; I'm going with Matthew's cotton bud suggestion; I don't think my A1200 would appreciate being dropped :-) -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Mon Feb 15 20:44:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1384-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 19:51:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:51:32 0000 Received: (qmail 2403 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 19:48:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 2367 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.144] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10CU0f-0000Rz-00; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:48:50 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:44:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Stephen Williams Matthew O'Neill wrote: > 1: get some cotton buds on small sticks (come in packs of 200 or so) and > just use a little water on them. press the key next to it and wipe, > simple. Oooh, that sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a go. I've got some cotton buds; I use them for cleaning the lens in my top-loading CD player. Failing that, I'll try the hose attachment on my vacuum cleaner; though I have visions of sucking the keycaps off :-S -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Mon Feb 15 23:31:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1385-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 15 22:38:37 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:38:37 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:38:37 0000 Received: (qmail 15765 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 1999 22:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15627 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 22:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by ndhealthsource.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 22:38:20 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.109] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10CWc0-0006Bw-00; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:35:32 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:31:02 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] WBLaunch 1.1 released From: Stephen Williams Yo Anyone who uses my program "WBLaunch" may like to know that I just put a new version up on my Web site (http://www.nysa.u-net.com/software/), and it should appear on Aminet in the next couple of days. If you don't use it, here's what it does: it uses wbstart.library to run programs from the Shell as if they had been started from Workbench. New for this release: one bug fix, and full source is included. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Tue Feb 16 03:03:27 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1386-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 02:04:55 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:04:55 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:04:54 0000 Received: (qmail 1356 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 02:01:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 32755 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 02:00:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 02:00:28 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA12114 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:03:08 GMT Message-Id: <199902160203.CAA12114@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:03:27 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Software configuration (was Re: Dust) From: Lupus Yonderboy On Mon, Feb 15, 1999, at 02:10 PM, Pat Kushko wrote: > > My combination of choice was MCP + Toolsdaemon *sigh* > > Really no point in mine is better than yours disscusions. I was [snip] Of course not, I was just curious what others are using. > MCP does have a huge amount of extra features, so many that it takes > weeks figuring which ones are solid with your hardware and which cause > problems and why. Some people swear at it... others swear they can't live > without it.. but when you're having problems it's the first thing disabled. I could't live without it, needed screenmode promoter and req.-timeout, but you are right about this if_problem_disableMCP stuff. > Toolsdaemon/Toolmanager is very good and would be my choice of adds > to-day, but when I started my custom set-up many moons ago, 'MyMenu' type > programs were the way to go. I use Parm (Parmable Menu's) which is an > extension to MyMenu's... it allows submenu's, shell executions, batches, > and a few other tricks. I got stuck in that and the menuing system has > grown to over 860 lines (that's a lot of menu's!:), so this would be a > real chore to move over to a more modern menuing system. This reminds me of configuring TD/TM, took me few days to tune it up, had 20 nice tiny 8-colour brushes and many menus. Than I installed Tinymeter also and... Hmmm... I'm just babbling, got nostalgia attack. I dare to say that tuning-up is great fun when you have a lot of free time :) [snip] > from any screen. But there is a number of contenders for taskbar > utilities, so I'm always looking and trying... heck that's half the fun! *gasp* I just said that seven lines above :) -- PGP keys available via keyservers, finger or at www.rcub.bg.ac.yu/~lupusy Both keys are under the same UserID = 1024-bit RSA key KeyID=9CCDB6E5 fpr = 08104108C9A5352B 780D9A18ED3F8A74 2048-bit RSA key KeyID=43AC2F55 fpr = F516BC335C0BAF86 65DB67A827F266B5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Tue Feb 16 04:55:40 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1387-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 04:00:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:15 0000 Received: (qmail 2228 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 03:57:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2104 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 03:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 03:57:06 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137184.voyager.net [209.153.137.184]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id XAA21076 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:00:26 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:55:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] A3000 upgrade From: jack york Hello, I am hoping someone can explain to me what options I have for upgrading my A3000. I currently have 16 meg of ram. I recently purchased ImageFX and a CD-RW drive. I have trobule using both due to not enough memory and disk space. What I would like to do is add an accelerator, increase the memory and add another hard drive. I could add a hard drive now but it would have to be the older style SCSI. If I end up with an accelerator which has the newer, faster SCSI bus I would have made a mistake. SoftWare Hut tells me there are only two accelerators available for the A3000. The 3640 for around $200 and the Cyber MKIII for $750.00. Only the latter has an option for more memory and a SCSI port. But I thought I remember reading somewhere that accelerators for A4000's would work in an A3000. So, I guess what I am asking is: What accelerators are available for the A3000 and what do they come with (memory expansion, SCSI port, etc.)? If I go with the 3640 accelerator above, is there some other way to add memory and a SCSI port to an A3000? If I go with the Cyber accelerator, will it work out of the box? I saw a mention on one of the newsgroups that a wire had to be soldered on the motherboard to get it to work and some chips had to be updated. How does a graphics card fit into this, if at all? Any ideas, suggestions or experience dealing with this type of upgrade will be appreciated. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Tue Feb 16 10:22:05 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1388-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 09:21:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:21:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:21:35 0000 Received: (qmail 13413 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 09:21:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 13387 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 09:21:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 09:21:28 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (3387 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3000 upgrade From: Pat Kushko > From: jack york > SoftWare Hut tells me there are only two accelerators available for the > A3000. The 3640 for around $200 and the Cyber MKIII for $750.00. Only the > latter has an option for more memory and a SCSI port. But I thought I > remember reading somewhere that accelerators for A4000's would work in an > A3000. Software Hut is selling new product and the Cyber MKIII is a good choice.. there's also the PPC cards (not sure about there availablity though) There's the much talked about G3 card... which is not yet here (and may never be). > What accelerators are available for the A3000 and what do they come with > (memory expansion, SCSI port, etc.)? http://www.hszk.bme.hu/~s7236lup/ (Amiga Lex site) is a good start, at least you can see what has been around... Then look for specific pages of the various manufacturers for more details. > If I go with the 3640 accelerator above, is there some other way to add > memory and a SCSI port to an A3000? This one is a pain... not much speed up, no fast memory expansion, and quite a heat problem, not to mention .. flaky depending on rev. Stay away from this... 5 years ago... it was an option halfway toward the A4000.. to-day, it's not really an option. > If I go with the Cyber accelerator, will it work out of the box? I saw a > mention > on one of the newsgroups that a wire had to be soldered on the motherboard > to get it to work and some chips had to be updated. Most of the dealers will install... so it's in your box... outa the box:) It's a smart move if you're into a big purchase to have the pros set you up, they've got extra chips if yours need new revisions etc.. of course all of this isn't cheap. The factory or dealer will give you helpful support if you run into trouble, but when it comes to these high speed cards and chip revisons.. you better have a lot of patience. > How does a graphics card fit into this, if at all? No really much to say... here, although Phase-5 has a plug in graphic card to one of their PPC cards (at least I think) but in the main, a graphic card is sort of a separate issue, and in my opinion a 'must have' even before the accelerator. > Any ideas, suggestions or experience dealing with this type of upgrade will > be appreciated. The WarpEngine has a very good reputation for 040 accelerators, space for 64 megs of ram (more if you get the 4000 version and throw it into a tower case) but with that CD-RW you might want an 060.. The WarpEngine handles SCSI II while most 060's offer SCSI wide and more ram slots. Graphics is a must... it must be CFGX or P96 compatable. How much to spend? Depends on your usage... wallet size and many factors too numerous to mention here. -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nicklas97@hotmail.com Tue Feb 16 12:54:50 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1389-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 11:55:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:55:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:55:14 0000 Received: (qmail 26449 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 11:55:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26443 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 11:55:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 11:55:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24150 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 1999 11:54:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990216115450.24149.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.14.102.98 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:54:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.14.102.98] From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:54:50 PST Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DoomAttack source From: "Nicklas 'Alcom' Jönsson" >From: Stephen Williams >Subject: [just-amiga] DoomAttack source > >Anyone know where I can get the DoomAttack source code from? ISTR >the URL was posted here a couple of weeks ago. I didn't need the >source then, and didn't make a note of it :-) > have you tried the aminet????????? // Alcom // ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Tue Feb 16 13:28:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1390-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 12:29:16 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:29:16 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:29:16 0000 Received: (qmail 29876 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 12:32:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 29816 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 12:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 12:32:00 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp59.cubenet.de[194.97.90.59]) (1670 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:32:50 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:27:04 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:28:29 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE59B0.3D8512C0.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:28:28 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3000 upgrade From: Oliver Kastl On Tuesday, February 16, 1999 4:56 AM, jack york [SMTP:jyork@voyager.net] wrote: > > If I go with the 3640 accelerator above, is there some other way to add > memory and a SCSI port to an A3000? I don't know anything about the A3000, but I have an A4000/40 (with the A3640 board). I just want to tell you, that I can't really recommend it. Zorro-II and ChipMem bus accesses are "dead slow", much slower than an A4000/30. Memory accesses to Motherboard RAM are "slow" (same as an 030). I would assume this is true for an A3000, too. However, the A3640 has the nice "maprom" feature, where any Kickstart can be loaded write protected in 32 bit RAM. This is a very useful feature for a Software Developer like myself, I don't know if it useful for others. Cheers, Olli Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Tue Feb 16 16:14:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1391-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 15:15:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:15:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:15:12 0000 Received: (qmail 12510 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 15:15:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 12504 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 15:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 15:15:28 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29033 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc3-3.digital.net [206.228.238.3]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA02516 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:14:45 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: jack york Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:14:06 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3000 upgrade From: ken >SoftWare Hut tells me there are only two accelerators available for the >A3000. The 3640 for around $200 and the Cyber MKIII for $750.00. Only the >latter has an option for more memory and a SCSI port. But I thought I >remember reading somewhere that accelerators for A4000's would work in an >A3000. If acceleration is your goal, I ran across a page yesterday dedicated entirely to 'clock doubling' fast cheap way of speeding things up. ºiggest thing to keep on mind is to use plenty of heat sinks and fans. Brine cooled might not be so far fetched either. That page is... one of those listed below. I can't recall which exactly. http://cucug.cch.pmc.ru/amihardware.html Amiga Hardware Support http://www.amiga.com Amiga Inc. http://www.amiga.de/e-fr.html AMIGA International, Inc. http://www.amiga.de AMIGA International, Inc. Homepage http://www.fbe.fh-frankfurt.de/mitarb/schellha/ic/hwb/hwb.html HwB: The Hardware Book (Offline) http://www.amigaworld.freeserve.co.uk/ The Big Book of Amiga Hardware http://home.ican.net/~szymczak/amiga.html Wastebasket: Amiga Computer You're not exactly under warranty, so it's pretty much up to you.. > If I go with the 3640 accelerator above, is there some other way to add >memory and a SCSI port to an A3000? The 3640 in an a3k has nearly bad a rep with heat as over clocking.. So it's all now a matter of cost. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Tue Feb 16 10:03:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1393-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 20:01:08 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:01:08 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:01:07 0000 Received: (qmail 29927 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 20:04:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 29837 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 20:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 20:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14305 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 20:00:40 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 20:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15454 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 20:00:39 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-40.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.206.40) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 20:00:39 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 16 Feb 99 09:03:20 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] IDE/ATAPI Tape Drives From: "Andy Kinsella" Greetings, Does anyone have experience of these Drives? I've seen an Iomega Atapi tape drive in a local shop, and it seems the best bet for backing up large wodges of my harddrive. Floppies are not an option, as I don't have that long to wait :) ANd the amount of Zip disk's I'd need would cost a bit too much. . . I await the pourings of your wisdom. -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Tue Feb 16 20:57:16 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1394-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 20:19:22 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:19:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:19:21 0000 Received: (qmail 2345 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 20:19:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 2195 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 20:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 20:19:18 -0000 Received: from pm1-50.bahnhof.se (pm1-50.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.63]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20705 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:16:40 +0100 (MET) Date: 16 Feb 99 20:57:16 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Oliver Kastl" In-Reply-To: <01BE581D.97C4B720.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> Message-ID: <1773.716T824T12573481@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Buddha problem From: "Jonas Thorell" Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: >> I'm using a Buddha IDE-interface in my A3000 and am trying to use two >> things on it, on separate IDE-channels. One 500 meg harddisk and one >> CD-changer. >> So far, no problem. I can access one or the other but not at the same >> time! If the CD-changer is attached to the Buddha, the harddisk is invisible >> to every program that inquires the bus to what devices it has. Remove the >> changer and I can do whatever I please to the harddisk. I really don't >> understand this since both channels seem to work just fine. >This is weird, to say the least. I haven't seen this happen before. Well, problem solved. It turned out that it was the combination of my changer, harddisk and the buddha that didn't get along that well. They should have since they were on seperate IDE-busses but...that old harddisk have now been retired by a new one and everything works as intended. Got some weird numbers back from HDInsttools and HDtoolbox at first but now it works. Format claimed it couldn't write block 0 (quick mode) as well but that turned out to be a lie...I can write just fine to it. Anything in particular one should bear in mind with 10 gig drives? This is with the latest release of PFS2 though so the 4 gig limit is no more I hope. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Hiroshima '45, Tsjernobyl '86, Windows '95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Tue Feb 16 22:11:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1395-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 22:15:17 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:15:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:15:16 0000 Received: (qmail 18252 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 22:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 17971 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 22:11:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 22:11:19 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.210] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10CsjL-0005tB-00; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:12:36 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:11:30 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990216115450.24149.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DoomAttack source From: Stephen Williams >> Anyone know where I can get the DoomAttack source code from? > have you tried the aminet????????? Yes; I tried dev/src, game/patch and game/shoot. I did a search for "DoomAttack". None of these worked. I eventually did a DejaNews search and found the news article that the DoomAttack author posted, advertising the source. Forgot about Usenet :-) -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 02:04:49 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1396-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 00:04:39 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:04:39 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:04:38 0000 Received: (qmail 25595 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 00:00:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 25519 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 00:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 00:00:43 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (d5-u9.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.53.9]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id NAA03525; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:04:11 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Loki Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:04:49 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM... +(Tutorial) From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Loki wrote on 07-Feb-99: |>B4 I start, I`m using YAM2.0Preview6 YAM 1.3.4 [020] (Dec 12 1996) is the same as the latest one I grabbed from Aminet. I've also looked at your version but it dosn't impress me very much, not very nice looking. |>Now, the way I see it, the filters get executed in order down Noted. |>o Click the new button and type a directory name in the requester. |> This will be the name of the dir in your YAM: assign. When you press Okay, this is different to the old program. But I have managed to get the old one working by transposing the example from the guide to my config. script. |>Finally, the `Filter' button in the main-window does work! What it does |>is applys your `Local' filters to the `Incoming' directory,. IE, I wish! But it dosn't at all. The only time it works is when the mail comes in, I think. Havn't tested it yet. If the filters do work then my Just_amiga mail will all be together. But there is one thing I'm not sure of: Folder0 = 0;1;incoming;Incoming Folder1 = 1;1;outgoing;Outgoing Folder2 = 1;0;sent;Sent Folder3 = 0;0;archived;Archived Folder4 = 2;3;Just_amiga;Just_Amiga I've made folder4 there, but I just don't have a clue as to what those numbers mean. Then it's the directory and the location name though. Perhaps you can just send me your bit in the config file and that will answer the question, by showing your folder for that type of mail. |>WOW!,. took me ages to write that, perhaps I should do a FAQ :) You did a good job, but that yam version looks weird. Probably best suited to people who have those flashing screens and tiny icons. You know, the super high resolution or whatever. |>RG>> ps Does your yam deal with over 60 messages? |>I`ve never had over 60 mails,. I poll my mail 4 times a day usually :), No problems, been away a week and 150+ recieved. Later: Okay, it dosn't work. I bet it can though, but if I must I"ll use the demo. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 02:15:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1398-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 00:05:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:05:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:05:52 0000 Received: (qmail 11486 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 00:02:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11286 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 00:02:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 00:02:02 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (d5-u9.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.53.9]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id NAA03865; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:05:17 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Willi Kusche Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:15:35 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Willi Kusche wrote on 08-Feb-99: |> Rick, according to the date stamp on your last message, your computer |>thinks it's August. At the risk of wasting space talking about this.... Yes. Often my computer blows up and has clock failures due to it. I blame Ibrowse not working as it should, which I suppose is the same for everyone. Before I had my expantion I used an executable to set the clock and I just changed the time each session. The last time I needed to do it was in august and that executable is hidden somewhere I can't find it. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 02:11:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1397-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 00:06:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:06:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:06:02 0000 Received: (qmail 3440 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 00:01:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3144 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 00:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 00:01:47 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (d5-u9.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.53.9]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id NAA03829; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:05:13 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Thomas Hurst Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:11:47 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 07-Feb-99: |>> Thomas Hurst suggests that yam tells the server to do it. |>When? Server side filtering is very simple, and mainly designed for killing |>spam, irritating posts from people you don't like etc. That would be something. YAM 1.3.4 [020] (Dec 12 1996). How do I do it? |>Filtering into different folders occurs after disconnecting from the server, |>yes. Good, fine. Unless Loci beets you to it, I'd like an example for shifting Just_Amiga to it's own folder from the config. script and enough information that I can make lots of my own. & thanks for the help Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Wed Feb 17 00:42:33 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1399-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 00:19:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:19:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:19:51 0000 Received: (qmail 7488 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 00:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 7428 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 00:16:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 00:16:13 -0000 Received: from pm4-01.bahnhof.se (pm4-01.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.194]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18044 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:17:11 +0100 (MET) Date: 17 Feb 99 00:42:33 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "jack york" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2679.717T1693T423878@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 3 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A3000 upgrade From: "Jonas Thorell" jack york (jyork@voyager.net) wrote: > What accelerators are available for the A3000 and what do they come with >(memory expansion, SCSI port, etc.)? Phase5's Cyberstorm cards are good. I use one myself with a 040 onboard. It's got space for four simm's for a total of 128 megs. I'm using a MKII but the there's not much differing between it and the MKIII except that the latter have onboard SCSI as well. > If I go with the 3640 accelerator above, is there some other way to add >memory and a SCSI port to an A3000? There are memory-expansions available for the zorro-slots but it would be slower. I don't about the SCSI-part though (I'm quite happy with the built-in SCSI myself). > If I go with the Cyber accelerator, will it work out of the box? Most of it. >I saw a mention on one of the newsgroups that a wire had to be soldered on the motherboard >to get it to work Only necessary for the SCSI-part. The cpu and memory works fine without it. So, if you ditch the SCSI part it would work out of the box. >and some chips had to be updated. Not for the accellerator as far as I know. Could be a good idea to make sure you have revision 8 of the SCSI-chip and revision 11 of the Buster though. > How does a graphics card fit into this, if at all? Fits nicely into one of the zorro-slots so you wouldn't necessary need a accelerator to use one, although you do need more memory to use it to it's fullest. 16 meg is too little. I'm currently using the following setup and it works just beautifully: 2 meg fast on the motherboard with 2 meg chip Cyberstorm MKII 040@40 Mhz (fast enough for me) with 32 megs (about to upgrade there) 2 Harddisks on the internat SCSI-controller (350 meg for system software only + 1 gig HD mainly used for storing CD-imagefiles before writing) 1 Cybervision64 gfx-card. 1 10 gig harddisk attached to a Buddha-IDE interface. 1 Nakamichi 5-disk CD-changer (also attached to the Buddha) 1 Philips CDD2600 CD-writer 1 HP SureStore 5000 DAT-streamer 1 Prelude audio-card. 1 Vlab framegrabber. In my eyes, a rather nice system. So, for you I'd go for a Cyberstorm060 with at least 32 meg of ram on it and a nice gfx-card. The Cybervision series is nice, or the PicassoIV. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Thank god for Prop. 215! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Mick@winsux.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 17 01:58:45 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1400-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 01:23:30 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:23:30 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:23:30 0000 Received: (qmail 13338 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 01:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 13261 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 01:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 01:17:53 -0000 Received: from modem-105.altace.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.105] ident=root) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Cvfw-0001cl-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:21:16 +0000 From: "Mick Heyes" Organization: Couldnotbearsed plc. Date: 17 Feb 99 00:58:45 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000488] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Mick Heyes" Hi Stephen. On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:44:18 +0000 you wrote: > Failing that, I'll try the hose attachment on my vacuum cleaner; though > I have visions of sucking the keycaps off :-S I use a 1300 watt HITACHI vacum cleaner with a pair of my mums tights over the nozzle. Just make sure she's not wearing the buggers at the time :) -- Mick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed Feb 17 02:26:27 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1401-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 01:29:06 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:29:06 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:29:05 0000 Received: (qmail 601 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 01:25:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 425 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 01:25:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 01:25:05 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-21.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.24]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00124 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:25 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Nano Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:26:27 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Max Transfer From: Colin Wenzel On 17-Feb-99, Nano wrote: >From: Nano >Hello, >In short: >Hoping to find optimal max transfer for Quantum Viking 4.5g SCSI2. Ok problems: 1: DO NOT USE 'LONG FORMAT' on ANY partitions. Use only QUICK on drives bigger than 4095 Mb. (There is a problem with the Format command) 2: Use the a4000t 64 bit SCSI_IDE strip patches from amiga.de/files. Remember to read the docs, only the second one has the REBOOT option. 3: Use the latest FFS from amiga.de/files area: 'FFS Intl 43.20' You MUST have 'INTERNATIONAL MODE' on for it to work. 3: Ensure that this is so by doing a 'Version DH0:' or whatever your partitions are called. 4: Keep every partition below 2048 Mb in size. *: After you have done all the above, you can safely use drives as big as you like... I have an 8.2 Gig drive on an A4000T. PS: My Maxtransfer on SCSI is: 0xffffff, on IDE drives it is: 0x1fe00. Just remember to NEVER LONG FORMAT any partition...... (With WB3.1 or less, format command) Alternatively, Chop the last part of the drive down in HDToolbox, so that the total available space is 4095 Mb, & dont use the end bit. This is not actually necessary is you do the above properly.... (Just giving another suggestion, so dont bother flaming me) -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 04:36:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1402-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 01:39:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:39:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:39:34 0000 Received: (qmail 32500 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 01:35:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 32454 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 01:35:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 01:35:31 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (d5-u12.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.53.12]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id OAA00773; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:38:52 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:36:44 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Rick Giles Wait just a tick! I think I might just have sorted it out. Making folders, easy. But I think I just worked out what has been going wrong! The 'match' has to be exact. This means that putting [just amiga] in there isn't good enough. But it will work (move those messages to just amiga folder of mine) if I have the exact match in there. I believe it accepts #? wildcards and I'm going online now to test that very thing. [just amiga]#? might be the trick. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The future's not set and the end is always near. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 04:42:11 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1403-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 01:42:46 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:42:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:42:45 0000 Received: (qmail 10121 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 01:43:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10100 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 01:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 01:43:03 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (d5-u12.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.97.53.12]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id OAA01816; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:42:20 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:42:11 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Rick Giles wrote on 17-Feb-99: |>[just amiga]#? might be the trick. #?just-amiga#? has been successful. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The future's not set and the end is always near. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed Feb 17 09:24:33 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1404-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 17:05:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:05:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:05:57 0000 Received: (qmail 14712 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 17:06:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14433 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 17:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 17:05:47 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p053.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.117]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA25199; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:05:17 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:24:33 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Rick Giles The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be overcome? How? (dpaint iv btw) Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From henrik.holst@ecovision.se Wed Feb 17 18:10:48 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1406-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 17:11:06 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:11:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:11:04 0000 Received: (qmail 10720 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 17:06:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10505 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 17:06:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail) (194.52.57.153) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 17:06:17 -0000 From: Henrik Holst Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:10:48 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com, rickgiles@clear.net.nz X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /220000000/220040146/220000212/220080140/ Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbenc Message-Id: <19990217171105.c604ee0bc5b511d2bcb60060974be5e3.in@mail.thefree.net> From: Henrik Holst In the Icons tooltypes I think... There should be some CloseWB=yes or something... ---------- From: rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sent: den 17 februari 1999 18:07 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: [just-amiga] Dpaint Closing Workbench <> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Rick Giles The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be overcome? How? (dpaint iv btw) Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* ***************************************************** Henrik Holst Ecovision AB Tel: +46(0)31 684958 Fax: +46(0)31 683785 Mobil: +46(0)709 679016 E-mail Address: henrik.holst@ecovision.se Home Page: http://www.ecovision.se ***************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From BOURMAPH@e-i.com Wed Feb 17 18:11:46 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1405-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 17:11:22 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:11:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:11:22 0000 Received: (qmail 264 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 17:07:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 147 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 17:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO athena.e-i.net) (193.57.116.130) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 17:06:46 -0000 Received: from sinet.e-i.net by athena.e-i.net (8.8.5/SMI-SVR4) id RAA71924; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:10:29 GMT Received: by sowa.e-i.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <19PF1Q31>; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: BOURMAULT Philippe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:11:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: BOURMAULT Philippe >From: Rick Giles > > The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. >Can this be overcome? >How? > >(dpaint iv btw) ------------------------------------ Try to edit the ToolTypes of the DPAINT.info There must be such a line with CLOSEWB=YES (put it to NO) or something similar ... Good Luck ! Philippe B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From instantprint@allcomm.co.uk Wed Feb 17 18:14:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1407-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 17:13:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:13:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:13:43 0000 Received: (qmail 31877 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 17:09:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 31506 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 17:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brains.allcomm.co.uk) (195.74.100.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 17:08:59 -0000 Received: from andrew (dial62.allcomm.co.uk [195.74.100.126]) by brains.allcomm.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA21785 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:13:16 GMT (envelope-from instantprint@allcomm.co.uk) Message-ID: <001001be5a99$1fbf9d20$0e0c7b8f@andrew> From: "Andrew McCombe" To: Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:14:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: "Andrew McCombe" > The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be overcome? In the menu (the one at the end) is open Workbench. I'm not sure if it is also a tooltype. Select the Dpaint Icon and then choose Information from the icons menu. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mattias.andersson@home.se Wed Feb 17 18:39:20 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1408-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 17:43:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:43:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:43:09 0000 Received: (qmail 30883 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 17:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 30878 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 17:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www) (192.176.126.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 17:45:04 -0000 Received: from sala.se by www (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA03074; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:43:50 +0100 From: Mattias Andersson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:39:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.137535736.1" Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Mattias Andersson Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.137535736.1 Content-Type: text/plain > From: Rick Giles > Wait just a tick! I think I might just > have sorted it out. > > Making folders, easy. But I think I just worked out what has been going > wrong! > The 'match' has to be exact. This means that putting [just amiga] in there > isn't good enough. But it will work (move those messages to just amiga > folder of mine) if I have the exact match in there. > > I believe it accepts #? wildcards and I'm going online now to test that > very thing. > > [just amiga]#? might be the trick. Well, I use the reply-to adress.. works fine for me. 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Feb 17 19:23:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1409-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 18:23:55 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:55 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:54 0000 Received: (qmail 30696 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 18:19:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 30622 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 18:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 18:19:29 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t1o68p3.telia.com [62.20.138.3]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01061 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:23:24 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Rick Giles Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:23:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Linus Akesson On 17-Feb-99, Rick Giles (rickgiles@clear.net.nz) wrote: >From: Rick Giles > The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be overcome? >How? >(dpaint iv btw) > Cool Enough, TTFN!! I'm wrote a small hack called noclosewb, that patches CloseWorkbench() into a no-op routine. I can mail it to you if you want. Linus \\// [o][O] .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://fly.to/linus.world | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' And for all you telepathics out there...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From dlbenson@psnw.com Wed Feb 17 19:25:46 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1410-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 18:36:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:36:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:36:36 0000 Received: (qmail 29973 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 18:32:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29413 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 18:32:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 18:32:01 -0000 Received: from psnw.com (root@vct1-05.psnw.com [206.43.240.28]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA08547 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:35:45 -0800 (PST) From: Don and Lynn Benson To: Mail List Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:25:46 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] [RE] IBrowse GIF Viewer From: Don and Lynn Benson Hello, Can someone recommend an external GIF viewer for IBrowse? I have tried FastGIF2, GIF_View and ZGif and cannot get some GIFs to show up. /// /// AMIGA -D. R. Benson /// IS 1209 East Sweet Street \\\ /// ALIVE! Visilia CA 93292-2260 \\\/// U.S.A. \XX/ Amiga is what Windows wants to be when it grows up. -e-mail: dlbenson@psnw.com Those who are busy saying it can't be done need to stay out of the way of those who are busy doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Wed Feb 17 20:38:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1411-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 19:39:28 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:39:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:39:27 0000 Received: (qmail 15585 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 19:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15373 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 19:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 19:35:04 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.203] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10DCm3-00054K-00; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:36:46 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:38:52 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Stephen Williams Linus Akesson wrote: > I'm wrote a small hack called noclosewb, that patches CloseWorkbench() > into a no-op routine. Ooh! That's a neat way of doing it. I was wondering about writing a program which locks the Workbench screen and doesn't unlock it again. A screen can't be closed if it's been locked. Your way is much nicer though :-) -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lmill@bellatlantic.net Wed Feb 17 20:01:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1412-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 20:07:07 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:07:07 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:07:05 0000 Received: (qmail 14205 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 20:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14129 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 20:01:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.156) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 20:01:46 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-197-32-19.bellatlantic.net [151.197.32.19]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA15509 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Miller To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Larry Miller Hello Rick On 16-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Rick Giles > Making folders, easy. But I think I just worked out what has been going wrong! > The 'match' has to be exact. This means that putting [just amiga] in there > isn't good enough. But it will work (move those messages to just amiga folder > of mine) if I have the exact match in there. If you check the box that says "substring search" you don't have to be exact. Larry -- Larry Miller lmill@bellatlantic.net A1200/060 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 17 20:54:34 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1413-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 20:19:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:14 0000 Received: (qmail 13184 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 20:15:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13179 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 20:15:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 20:15:11 -0000 Received: from du-1433.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-1433.claranet.co.uk [195.8.78.35]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19760 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:14:08 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 17 Feb 99 19:54:34 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Rick Giles" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1443.717T1700T11942352@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM... +(Tutorial) From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 17-Feb-99 01:04:49, Rick Giles wrote: >From: Rick Giles >It's simply incredible what Loki wrote on 07-Feb-99: >|>B4 I start, I`m using YAM2.0Preview6 >YAM 1.3.4 [020] (Dec 12 1996) is the same as the latest one I >grabbed from Aminet. 1.3.5 has been out for years, and apparantly fixes a nasty bug in 1.3.4. >I've also looked at your version but it dosn't >impress me very much, not very nice looking. 1) It uses MUI; change it. 2) Since when did looks have anything to do with using an emailer? >|>WOW!,. took me ages to write that, perhaps I should do a FAQ :) >You did a good job, but that yam version looks weird. Probably >best suited to people who have those flashing screens and tiny >icons. You know, the super high resolution or whatever. If you mean the icons, you can change them (they are in the "Icons" dir IIRC). If you mean the listviews, you can change them in the MUI settings. >|>RG>> ps Does your yam deal with over 60 messages? >|>I`ve never had over 60 mails,. I poll my mail 4 times a day usually :), >No problems, been away a week and 150+ recieved. A *week*?? I usually get that in a day... you can imagine why I dumped Yam :/ Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 16957 2^28 blocks done -- Kludge: (v., adj., or n.) to fix a program in the usual way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 17 20:56:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1414-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 20:19:16 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:16 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:16 0000 Received: (qmail 1436 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 20:14:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1431 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 20:14:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 20:14:47 -0000 Received: from du-1433.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-1433.claranet.co.uk [195.8.78.35]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19765 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:14:10 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 17 Feb 99 19:56:47 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Rick Giles" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1096.717T2350T11962638@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 17-Feb-99 01:11:47, Rick Giles wrote: >It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 07-Feb-99: >|>> Thomas Hurst suggests that yam tells the server to do it. >|>When? Server side filtering is very simple, and mainly designed for killing >|>spam, irritating posts from people you don't like etc. >That would be something. YAM 1.3.4 [020] (Dec 12 1996). How do I >do it? I don't recommend it - it forces Yam to use the TOP command to download the headers and upper 10 lines of each message, which increases download times by about 1/3rd. >|>Filtering into different folders occurs after disconnecting from the >|>server, yes. >Good, fine. Unless Loci beets you to it, I'd like an example for >shifting Just_Amiga to it's own folder from the config. script >and enough information that I can make lots of my own. I've never used 1.*.*, sorry. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 16957 2^28 blocks done -- Windows 2000 - the number of seconds it takes to load ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 17 20:58:16 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1415-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 20:19:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:19:26 0000 Received: (qmail 27468 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 20:19:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27390 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 20:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from du-1433.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-1433.claranet.co.uk [195.8.78.35]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19770 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:14:11 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 17 Feb 99 19:58:16 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Rick Giles" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <892.717T800T11981296@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 17-Feb-99 03:36:44, Rick Giles wrote: > Wait just a tick! I think I might just >have sorted it out. >Making folders, easy. But I think I just worked out what has been going >wrong! > The 'match' has to be exact. This means that putting [just amiga] in there >isn't good enough. But it will work (move those messages to just amiga folder >of mine) if I have the exact match in there. >I believe it accepts #? wildcards and I'm going online now to test that very >thing. >[just amiga]#? might be the trick. Why filter by subject? That's a braindead way of doing it - use To: or Reply-To: (I recommend the latter, as it catches cross-post's too). Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 16957 2^28 blocks done -- This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Wed Feb 17 21:22:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1416-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 20:22:21 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:22:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:22:20 0000 Received: (qmail 30776 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 20:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 30756 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 20:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 20:22:39 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp40.cubenet.de[194.97.90.40]) (1306 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:22:01 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Nov-23) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:21:37 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5ABB.AE3EFBA0.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:22:52 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Oliver Kastl On Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:23 PM, Linus Akesson [SMTP:lairfight@softhome.net] wrote: > > I'm wrote a small hack called noclosewb, that patches CloseWorkbench() > into a > no-op routine. I can mail it to you if you want. Ooh, another SetFunction(). Just a hint: How about using LockPubScreen() on the Workbench? This will do the same and is much more ... hmmm .. beautiful. Cheers, Olli Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Wed Feb 17 22:27:52 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1417-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 21:28:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:28:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:28:53 0000 Received: (qmail 11182 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 21:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11119 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 21:24:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 21:24:14 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t2o68p28.telia.com [62.20.138.148]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20859 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:28:25 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Oliver Kastl Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:27:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <01BE5ABB.AE3EFBA0.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Linus Akesson On 17-Feb-99, Oliver Kastl (olli@elaborate-bytes.com) wrote: >From: Oliver Kastl >On Wednesday, February 17, 1999 7:23 PM, Linus Akesson >[SMTP:lairfight@softhome.net] wrote: >> >> I'm wrote a small hack called noclosewb, that patches CloseWorkbench() >> into a >> no-op routine. I can mail it to you if you want. >Ooh, another SetFunction(). >Just a hint: How about using LockPubScreen() on the Workbench? >This will do the same and is much more ... hmmm .. beautiful. >Cheers, Olli Yes, but I have some programs that use screennotify.library to automatically close their windows when someone tries to CloseWorkbench(). The workbench won't actually close (as I have some other programs that don't use that library) but all those windows will close & reopen, and the workbench screen will pop to front. All this mess is prevented by simply disabling CloseWorkbench(), although I know it should be considered a temporary solution. As we all know, AmigaOS has become a very patched os. Linus \\// [o][O] .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://fly.to/linus.world | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' Pentium instruction of the day: CIB: Change Important Byte ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Mon Aug 10 04:55:39 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1418-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 22:03:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:37 0000 Received: (qmail 7008 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 22:05:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 6985 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 22:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 22:05:36 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem029.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.129]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id XAA06710 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:02:40 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:55:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] ADoom ? From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hello folks !! I've ADoomV1.2 and DoomAttackV0.8 and 2 WAD files: one shareware.wad and one registered.wad. The problem is, with the shareware wad the game works, whereas the registered file does not. The registered file as a length of 10396254 bytes, I got it with DoomV1.94. Both amiga versions break with the message: >ST_Init: Init status bar. >W_GetNumForNAme: STBAR not found! Can anybody help me or tell me woh can ? Best wishes, Pearl ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed Feb 17 23:06:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1419-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 22:09:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:09:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:09:30 0000 Received: (qmail 5730 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 22:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5650 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 22:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 22:13:44 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13351 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc3-73.digital.net [206.228.238.73]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA13045 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:08:18 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: amiga stuff Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:06:06 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] thoughts From: ken After some time using the amiga, and especially today, leaching 2 different sites dry, and having that rc5 contest also running, it ocurred to me maybe one more reason why amiga may have fallen down. The PC's claim to have multi tasking, but we all know it's only simulated compared to what the amiga can do (has done for the past 15 years...) Anyways if you think about it, if the amiga had become as popular as the pc's, can you imagine the bottlenecks on the web with everyone using an amiga and leaching 2 or more pages at a time ? I've used this multi for a long while now on the web for reading the daily newspaper from excite, while waiting for newsgroups or mail lists to load, and switching between windows to handle all 3 whenever the activity button shows it's stopped.. There's no way anyone could have had the amiga become top dog. It'd make the web turn into a traffic jam just to logon.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Thu Feb 18 00:39:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1420-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 17 23:40:01 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:40:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:40:00 0000 Received: (qmail 16106 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 1999 23:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15713 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 23:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 23:35:05 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA19386 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:39:02 GMT Message-Id: <199902172339.XAA19386@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:39:23 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IBrowse GIF Viewer From: Lupus Yonderboy On Wed, Feb 17, 1999, at 10:25 AM, Don and Lynn Benson wrote: > Can someone recommend an external GIF viewer for IBrowse? I have > tried FastGIF2, GIF_View and ZGif and cannot get some GIFs to > show up. FastView or Visage, but they are not GIF-only. -- PGP keys available via keyservers, finger or at www.rcub.bg.ac.yu/~lupusy Both keys are under the same UserID = 1024-bit RSA key KeyID=9CCDB6E5 fpr = 08104108C9A5352B 780D9A18ED3F8A74 2048-bit RSA key KeyID=43AC2F55 fpr = F516BC335C0BAF86 65DB67A827F266B5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Feb 18 05:58:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1421-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 04:57:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:57:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:57:50 0000 Received: (qmail 19013 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 04:53:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19008 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 04:52:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 04:52:59 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1305 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:58:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:58:28 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <199902172339.XAA19386@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IBrowse GIF Viewer From: Pat Kushko On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Lupus Yonderboy wrote: > From: Lupus Yonderboy > > On Wed, Feb 17, 1999, at 10:25 AM, Don and Lynn Benson wrote: > > > Can someone recommend an external GIF viewer for IBrowse? I have > > tried FastGIF2, GIF_View and ZGif and cannot get some GIFs to > > show up. > > FastView or Visage, but they are not GIF-only. ViewGIF by Olaf Barthel supports the regular GIF87 and GIF89 standard files. requires: Amiga with OS 3.x and an '020 CPU will do and a screen display mode to match 256 colours (AA) or a graphic card. I'm not sure what you're looking for.. normally the internal version is sufficient. -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Feb 18 16:43:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1423-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 15:45:29 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:45:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:45:28 0000 Received: (qmail 2894 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 15:50:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2880 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 15:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 15:50:36 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-27.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.30]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA03106 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:45:05 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: "Marco B." Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:43:13 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HELP!! From: Colin Wenzel On 19-Feb-99, Marco B. wrote: >From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> >HY, >my name is Marco, >anyone can help me please?? >I found an old program named VBS, >this program backup a device in to a video cassette VHS. >What kind of cable i have to use?? >Anyone have an electric schema of this cable?? >Help please.... May I suggest that you just buy a second harddrive or a zip drive, that VCR backup was something that failed dismally years ago, the theory behind it was ok, but in practice you have to have a perfect VCR & brand new tapes & a mechanism in perfect alignment, something that rarely occurs.... Maybe for 2 weeks after you buy a new machine... ??? As IDE drives are now around $190 (AUD) for 4 Gigs, it is not even worth the time to make up a cable, removable drive bays are about $25 at the moment also... Not to mention CD writers or Jazz drives.... -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Thu Feb 18 07:37:46 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1424-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 17:23:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:23:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:23:32 0000 Received: (qmail 11469 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 17:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11321 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 17:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 17:18:40 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p016.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.80]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA06375; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:23:04 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:37:46 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] ModemSpeaker From: Rick Giles I've seen from time to time that when the computer gets a voice on the other end of the modem,that it comes clearly through the speaker. If I could somehow turn that on permanently it would be very useful. Not only for listening in on other peoples calls (not that I would) but for my computer to call up phone services by entering the tones. There's probably a way, even if nobody here knows it. Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- The future's not set and the end is always near. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Thu Feb 18 20:14:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1425-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 17:23:41 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:23:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:23:40 0000 Received: (qmail 31814 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 17:18:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 31804 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 17:18:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 17:18:34 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p016.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.80]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA06397; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:23:17 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:14:36 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Mailarchive (yam arexx) From: Rick Giles There is a command in arexx that allows you to archive the selected message, just as you would in person using the gui. I can't make it go! Far as I can tell I just type in: mailarchive Inquiries and it moves the message to my 'inquiries' folder. Nope. Help please. Cool Enough, TTFN! /**/ message="Df1:Collective_Soul/sked.txt" OPTIONS RESULTS ADDRESS YAM SetFolder 1 GetFolderInfo MAX; entries = RESULT DO i=0 TO entries-1 SetMail i GetMailInfo SUBJECT IF RESULT = 'send text' THEN DO mailarchive Inquiries endif end end /**/ -- All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lofty@fut.net Thu Feb 18 19:23:09 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1426-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 18:22:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:22:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:22:53 0000 Received: (qmail 31258 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 18:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 30932 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 18:25:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mars.cableol.net) (194.168.4.224) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 18:25:20 -0000 Received: from ns.nbc.co.uk by mars.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA14812; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:22:07 GMT Received: from oemcomputer [194.168.31.185] by fut.net [194.168.31.100] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP2.R) for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:22:06 +0000 Message-Id: <001201be5b6b$d2326960$b91fa8c2@oemcomputer> From: "Lofty" To: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:23:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mdaemon-Deliver-To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HELP!! From: "Lofty" -----Original Message----- From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: UKAmiga Cc: Amichat ; Just-Amiga Date: 18 February 1999 15:07 Subject: [just-amiga] HELP!! >From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> > >HY, >my name is Marco, >anyone can help me please?? > >I found an old program named VBS, >this program backup a device in to a video cassette VHS. > >What kind of cable i have to use?? >Anyone have an electric schema of this cable?? > >Help please.... > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' >box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > Hi Marco, I have the VBS unit you are after it contains a scart lead into two phonos but also there is a plastic box with a pcb mounted inside if you require more info let me know i`ll do my best to list the components or maybe a trade w.h.y? all the best Lofty ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 17 22:58:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1427-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 18:26:29 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:26:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:26:29 0000 Received: (qmail 28795 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 18:26:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27350 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 18:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 18:25:00 -0000 Received: from modem-116.uranium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.244] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DY7P-00018g-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:24:11 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:58:15 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 17-Feb-99, you wrote: > The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be overcome? > How? goto settings, untick the close workbench bit and save the settings ? Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like the colors orange and blue, you will like our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 17 23:22:59 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1428-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 18:26:59 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:26:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:26:58 0000 Received: (qmail 29090 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 18:27:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27318 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 18:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 18:24:58 -0000 Received: from modem-116.uranium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.244] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DY7R-00018g-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:24:13 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:22:59 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 17-Feb-99, you wrote: > Before I had my expantion I used an executable to set the clock and > I just changed the time each session. The last time I needed to > do it was in august and that executable is hidden somewhere I can't > find it. stick aminet in your startup and find the name of the program doing it. then you can search for it easily Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Feb 18 19:35:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1429-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 18:37:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:37:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:37:38 0000 Received: (qmail 15946 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 18:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15940 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 18:32:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 18:32:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-115.enterprise.net [194.72.198.115]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25203 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:37:16 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:35:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >I've seen from time to time that when the computer gets a voice on the other > end of the modem,that it comes clearly through the speaker. > If I could somehow turn that on permanently it would be very useful. Not only > for listening in on other peoples calls (not that I would) but for my computer > to call up phone services by entering the tones. Ok, to spy on people using the line go into a terminal program and type 'ATDT' (return) . Then you'll be able to listen in as much as you like (the other line goes a bit echoy though... bit of a giveaway!) As for using it up for computerised tone things, immpossible as you can't get it to dial numbers at will. (I think) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - I no longer fear hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From WaynePyrah@email.com Thu Feb 18 20:26:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1430-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 19:28:30 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:28:30 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:28:29 0000 Received: (qmail 26593 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 19:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26588 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 19:23:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 19:23:16 -0000 Received: from modem-12.zinc.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.14.140] helo=email.com) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DZ7I-0007BY-00; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:28:08 +0000 From: Wayne Pyrah To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Andrew Crowe Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Wayne Pyrah Hi Andrew On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >> I've seen from time to time that when the computer gets a voice on the > other >> end of the modem,that it comes clearly through the speaker. > >> If I could somehow turn that on permanently it would be very useful. > Not only >> for listening in on other peoples calls (not that I would) but for my > computer >> to call up phone services by entering the tones. > > Ok, to spy on people using the line go into a terminal program and > type 'ATDT' (return) . > > Then you'll be able to listen in as much as you like (the other line > goes a bit echoy though... bit of a giveaway!) > > As for using it up for computerised tone things, immpossible as you > can't get it to dial numbers at will. (I think) > > See ya. Regards Try the Amiga fax program STFAX it is perfect for things like that. You can even talk to people through your modem if you have a microphone! Try www.active-net.co.uk or something like that, you should be able to download a demo. Regards, + W A Y N E + -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK Web : http://here.is/WAYNE-PYRAH Email > Fax : WaynePyrahFAX@email.com - Faxes to me on +44 (0) 870 78 78 943 >>> NO ATTACHMENTS TO BE SENT BY FAX PLEASE - I WILL NOT RECEIVE THEM <<< ** Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ - NOW! ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Thu Feb 18 04:33:12 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1431-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 21:13:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:13:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:13:33 0000 Received: (qmail 29930 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 21:08:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27965 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 21:06:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 21:06:20 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem001.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.101]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id WAA16736 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:10:55 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:33:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] ADoom ? (fwd) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hallo, *** Weitergeleitete Nachricht, ursprünglich von Sven Dröge am 10-Aug-98 *** From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hello folks !! I've ADoomV1.2 and DoomAttackV0.8 and 2 WAD files: one shareware.wad and one registered.wad. The problem is, with the shareware wad the game works, whereas the registered file does not. The registered file as a length of 10396254 bytes, I got it with DoomV1.94. Both amiga versions break with the message: >ST_Init: Init status bar. >W_GetNumForNAme: STBAR not found! Can anybody help me or tell me woh can ? Best wishes, Pearl ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* *** Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht *** Mit freundlichen Grüssen -- ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Thu Feb 18 10:14:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1432-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 22:10:17 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:10:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:10:17 0000 Received: (qmail 32064 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 22:12:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 32056 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 22:12:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.27) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 22:12:16 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10Dbdl-0000S7-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:09:49 +0000 From: Alan Gryniewicz To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:14:15 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AREA 51 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filters in YAM... +(Tutorial) From: Alan Gryniewicz HiYA Rick ! > |>RG>> ps Does your yam deal with over 60 messages? > |>I`ve never had over 60 mails,. I poll my mail 4 times a day usually :), > No problems, been away a week and 150+ recieved. I've left my e-mail for about a week before and downloaded just over a 1000 at one time and YAM handles it perfectly!! C yA! 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Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 19 00:07:07 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1434-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 00:05:28 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:05:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:05:27 0000 Received: (qmail 30907 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 00:06:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 30834 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 00:06:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 00:06:54 -0000 Received: from modem-43.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.47.43] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DdRI-0003iV-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:05:04 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:07:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36CCA299.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPG3 AUDIO QUESTION From: Loki Hello SANKEY Hiya, SANKEY... ,on 18-Feb-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] MPG3 AUDIO QUESTION! So I`ma reply`in... S>> From: "SANKEY" S>> S>> Hi, S>> Does anyone know of a program, that allows a user to take a track S>> from an audio CD, convert it to WAV, then compress it into an MPG3 S>> sound file?? S>> S>> Sankey Pegase does the trick, methinks :) It was on the crimbo AF CD, I`m not sure if it`s on aminet, but it should be :) S>> Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From majik@tig.com.au Fri Feb 19 02:13:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1435-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 01:17:56 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:17:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:17:55 0000 Received: (qmail 28484 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 01:19:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28229 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 01:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.tig.com.au) (209.76.102.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 01:19:15 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (p11-nas1.syd.ihug.com.au [209.76.148.75]) by smtp2.tig.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA31200 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:16:47 +1100 From: AmiMajik To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:13:02 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: AmiMajik Hello Stephen On 13-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi y'all > > Does anyone know of a good way of shifting all that dust that collects > on the sides of keycaps? I keep my keyboard dustcovered when my > Amiga isn't in use, but it gets dusty 'coz it's in use so often :-) > I wondered about buying a little vacuum cleaner, but I don't know how > effective they are, or if they're worth the money. i think you will find that a keyboard skin will be the best way to go, protects you against liquid spills aswell... i know its saved my ass severall times.... and considering the cost of some amiga keyboards it might be something to consider. I bought one years ago for $20AUS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New interests? Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Fri Feb 19 02:42:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1436-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 01:46:05 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:46:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:46:04 0000 Received: (qmail 20534 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 01:48:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20524 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 01:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 01:48:12 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-24.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.27]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA12524 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:45:36 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: SANKEY Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:42:35 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36CCA299.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPG3 AUDIO QUESTION From: Colin Wenzel On 19-Feb-99, SANKEY wrote: >From: "SANKEY" >Hi, > Does anyone know of a program, that allows a user to take a track >from an audio CD, convert it to WAV, then compress it into an MPG3 >sound file?? >Sankey Firstly, there is no need to convert it to 'wav' format. 1: Get a copy of: 'Burnit V2' from aminet. That will allow you to suck the 40 - odd megas of AIFF coded data from the CD track, (if your CD rom supports that mode) 2: With the AIFF file, use MP3encode to make the mp3... ** You had better have an 040 or 060 if you want to do it in under a day... PS: Pegasus will encode in MP2 if you want to do it faster, (but you'll get a much bigger file.) -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From majik@tig.com.au Fri Feb 19 03:59:09 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1437-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 03:03:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 03:03:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 03:03:42 0000 Received: (qmail 11465 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 02:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 10652 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 02:57:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.tig.com.au) (209.76.102.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 02:57:55 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (p11-nas1.syd.ihug.com.au [209.76.148.75]) by smtp2.tig.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA06952 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:02:54 +1100 From: AmiMajik To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:59:09 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: AmiMajik Hello Rick On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: Rick Giles > > > I've seen from time to time that when the computer gets a voice on the > other end of the modem,that it comes clearly through the speaker. > > If I could somehow turn that on permanently it would be very useful. Not > only for listening in on other peoples calls (not that I would) but for my > computer to call up phone services by entering the tones. look at your modem manual, there is a command... however it differs between modems. The command for my spirit is #ATM2# = speaker always on ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From _caronte_@iol.it Fri Feb 19 18:08:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1438-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 11:07:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:07:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:07:09 0000 Received: (qmail 26216 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 11:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 26183 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 11:12:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.iol.it) (195.210.91.150) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 11:12:56 -0000 Received: from iol.it ([151.13.74.238]) by mta2.iol.it (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA4CB0; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:42 +0100 From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: Just-Amiga CC: AmiChat , UKAmiga , Amisite Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Commodity From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> Hy everyone, i need a commodity that take a part of txt from a WB window and paste it in a editor. Anyone have the name of this commodity?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Feb 19 14:34:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1439-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 13:33:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:33:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.157] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:33:51 0000 Received: (qmail 532 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 13:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 510 invoked by uid 99); 19 Feb 1999 13:34:02 -0000 Date: 19 Feb 1999 13:34:02 -0000 Message-ID: <919431242.500@onelist.com> To: just-amiga@onelist.com Received: from 208.14.41.3 by www.onelist.com with HTTP; 19 Feb 1999 13:34:02 -0000 From: cbminfo@digital.net Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] IDE and A3k From: cbminfo@digital.net I caught a message yesterday that was fairly vague, following up on it I ran over to Software huts homepage, also went to elaborate bytes, and the Buddha home page.. I used a search on every single page I hit for 3000 and couldn't find squat. There's lots of info. They do mention the a4k and 1200 both that I know use IDE drives just fine. The message I caught that was vague said something to the effect of using ide with the a3k.. Since I went and tagged more than 400+ bad blocks on my 1.3 gig yesterday and most likely last Quantum drive I'll ever own (1st time the warranty actually failed just after warranty..), I've thought the route to go since I figure I'm going to squeeze every useable penny out of this a3k is to go to IDE drives if it's possible. So the question is how many others are using the Buddha or something else to use IDE drives on their a3k's ? I'd also like to know any problems, or what all is involved in setting the a3k up to use ide vs scsi drives... I can't believe more haven't gone this route if it is possible. You can get the Buddha and a 4 gig ide for $100+ less than the equivalent 4+ gig SCSI drive alone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From _caronte_@iol.it Fri Feb 19 20:14:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1440-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 13:43:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:43:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:43:09 0000 Received: (qmail 3281 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 13:49:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3227 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 13:49:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.iol.it) (195.210.91.150) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 13:49:07 -0000 Received: from iol.it ([151.13.74.171]) by mta2.iol.it (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5104; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:42:25 +0100 From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: Just-Amiga CC: AmiChat , Amisite , UKAmiga Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:14:01 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] UAE files From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> Hy ev1, can i run with my Amiga1200 the gamefiles for UAE?? (This file, have an extension .adf) I am a collector of oldgames and for UAE the WEB is full !! Any of you have the my same interest?? Contact me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From nick@nab.u-net.com Fri Feb 19 17:22:33 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1441-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 16:29:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:29:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:29:14 0000 Received: (qmail 1225 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 16:29:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 1207 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 16:29:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 16:29:11 -0000 Received: from (p44.nas1.is4.u-net.net) [195.102.198.44] by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10DsnU-0005Cn-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:29:00 +0000 From: "Nick Bergquist" Organization: Private Date: 19 Feb 99 16:22:33 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000446] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE files From: "Nick Bergquist" Hi Marco, > From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> > > Hy ev1, > > can i run with my Amiga1200 > the gamefiles for UAE?? > (This file, have an extension .adf) #?.adf = 'Amiga Disk Format' file. This is designed to get round the problem that PCs running UAE cannot read DD Amiga disks. The entire file can be unpacked back onto a DD disk using the CLI tool ADFtodisk which is in the Aminet archives and then the game can be run as normal on the Amiga. > I am a collector of oldgames and for UAE > the WEB is full !! > Any of you have the my same interest?? > Contact me. There are loads but this includes disk images of legitimate games, demo games and pirate games. The other thing is that you may be able to get them running under UAE via a PC but you will have some big problems with them on an A1200 - many are old A500 games. Talking of which, does anyone remember an old ('86 ish) game called Faery Tale Adventure? I remember playing it some years ago on the first Amiga I ever met - a mate's A500. I'd love to have a go with it again for old time's sake. Anyone got it and want to sell/give it to me out there?!! Cheers, Nick Bergquist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 19 13:31:41 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1442-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:11:06 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:11:06 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:11:02 0000 Received: (qmail 31953 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:11:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 31819 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=oemcomputer) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10DtRk-0006Bh-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:10:36 +0000 Message-ID: <00a201be5c2a$e88d2aa0$605a989e@oemcomputer> From: "Bradley Smith" To: Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:31:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Commodity From: "Bradley Smith" -----Original Message----- From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: Just-Amiga Cc: AmiChat ; UKAmiga ; Amisite Date: 19 February 1999 11:10 Subject: [just-amiga] Commodity >From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> > > >Hy everyone, >i need a commodity that take a part of txt from a WB window >and paste it in a editor. > >Anyone have the name of this commodity?? Have you tried powersnap? Brad Smith brad@bradman.demon.co.uk brad@tekrum.com ICQ: 14717831 http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk [IRC] ^Bradman^ [Quake2] bRAD^bSP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 01:28:55 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1443-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:45:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:45:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:45:40 0000 Received: (qmail 12503 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:39:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12181 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:39:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:39:31 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18556; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:45:04 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: ken Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:28:55 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what ken wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>one more reason why amiga may have fallen down. Conspiracy! |>The PC's claim to have multi tasking, but we all know it's only simulated Well, they can blitz us these days can't they? Hardly simulated. |>I've used this multi for a long while now on the web for reading the daily |>newspaper from excite, while waiting for newsgroups or mail lists to load, Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 01:32:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1444-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:46:20 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:16 0000 Received: (qmail 28721 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:46:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28711 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:46:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:46:47 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18604; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:45:55 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Oliver Kastl Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:32:37 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <01BE5ABB.AE3EFBA0.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Oliver Kastl wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>Just a hint: How about using LockPubScreen() on the Workbench? |>This will do the same and is much more ... hmmm .. beautiful. Sounds great, is it a program? Because it's not in aminet:utilties and I havn't got it already. How do I make it go? Cool Enough, TTFN! -- All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 01:40:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1445-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:46:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:19 0000 Received: (qmail 18849 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18833 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:40:52 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18607; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:45:59 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Thomas Hurst Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:40:39 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1096.717T2350T11962638@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Filtering From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>I don't recommend it - it forces Yam to use the TOP command to download the |>headers and upper 10 lines of each message, which increases download times |>by about 1/3rd. That kills my interest completly. |>>shifting Just_Amiga to it's own folder from the config. script |>I've never used 1.*.*, sorry. Got it sorted, quite simple. What tricked me is that the archive catagory has the sub cats in it but names them in a little window not all that noticable to me. Things are cool thanks to all the help. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 01:44:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1446-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:46:29 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:26 0000 Received: (qmail 16249 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:46:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16235 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:46:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:46:32 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18615; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:46:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Larry Miller Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:44:01 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Larry Miller wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>> if I have the exact match in there. |>If you check the box that says "substring search" you don't have to be |>exact. No such option on my old yam, but don't need it. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 01:50:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1447-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:46:39 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:39 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:46:36 0000 Received: (qmail 21299 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:40:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21290 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:40:37 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18621; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:46:09 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Mattias Andersson Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:50:13 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: FILTERING- HOLD THE PHONE!! From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Mattias Andersson wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>> I believe it accepts #? wildcards and I'm going online now to test that |>> very thing. |>> [just amiga]#? might be the trick. Well #?[just-amiga]#? as it turned out. |>Well, I use the reply-to adress.. works fine for me. Look at attachment. Agreed, that works as well and is also more specific. Done that. Besides, I wouldn't want Thomas Hurst to think I was brain dead. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Fri Feb 19 02:09:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1448-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:47:05 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:47:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:47:02 0000 Received: (qmail 18044 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18033 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:41:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:41:04 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18626; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:46:11 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: BOURMAULT Philippe Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:09:15 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Rick Giles |>> The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. >Can this be |>Try to edit the ToolTypes of the DPAINT.info |>There must be such a line with CLOSEWB=YES (put it to NO) or something |>similar ... |>Good Luck ! Looked before asked here, all there are is: AutoGrid FastAdjust AutoGrid I tryed your suggestion and it dosn't work (yes or =no). But someone has a hack and someone has LockPubScreen, whatever that is. Someone asked this question a day before me or so, what are the chances of that?! Cool Enough, TTFN! -- The smallest ocean still gets big big waves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Fri Feb 19 18:48:24 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1449-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 17:52:34 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:52:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:52:26 0000 Received: (qmail 22290 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21981 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:45:28 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137142.voyager.net [209.153.137.142]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id MAA05169 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:51:54 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] A3000 Upgrade Thanks From: jack york Hello, To save everyone a lot of useless downloads let me use this one message to thank all of those that replied to my request. Most of the information came in handy and it looks like the MKIII is my only real choice. Too bad the price, when included with the memory and hard drive I need more, is more than I am prepared to spend right now. I do appreciate the help. Thanks, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 19 11:33:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1450-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 18:04:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:01 0000 Received: (qmail 32674 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 18:06:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 32588 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 18:06:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 18:06:04 -0000 Received: from modem-97.cadmium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.23.225] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DuGx-0000Vx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:03:32 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:33:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Sven On 10-Aug-98, you wrote: > I've ADoomV1.2 and DoomAttackV0.8 and 2 WAD files: > one shareware.wad and one registered.wad. > Both amiga versions break with the message: >> ST_Init: Init status bar. >> W_GetNumForNAme: STBAR not found! > Can anybody help me or tell me woh can ? I believe that you have to rename the wad to get it to work. I got the doom2 wad, but had to rename it to get it to work. I called it DOOMu.WAD and now it works, but unfortunately it won't let me use other shareware wads!! :( Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 19 11:35:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1452-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 18:04:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:05 0000 Received: (qmail 5912 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 18:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5886 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 18:04:07 -0000 Received: from modem-97.cadmium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.23.225] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DuGz-0000Vx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:03:33 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:35:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: > If I could somehow turn that on permanently it would be very useful. Not > only for listening in on other peoples calls (not that I would) but for my > computer to call up phone services by entering the tones. just load AMTerm and type in "atdt" that basically tells the modem to pick up the reciever :) be warned though, the other guy on the phone will hear it click and the sound quality will degrade somewhat Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New interests? Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 19 11:41:19 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1451-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 18:04:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:04:06 0000 Received: (qmail 3515 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 17:58:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3500 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 17:58:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 17:58:48 -0000 Received: from modem-97.cadmium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.23.225] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10DuH1-0000Vx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:03:36 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:41:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Wayne On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: >> As for using it up for computerised tone things, immpossible as you >> can't get it to dial numbers at will. (I think) sure you can! just do it in the terminal program, what didi you think it was for, just listening to other peoples phone calls!? ;) just goto the address book, enter the number then tell the terminal program to dial it Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Fri Feb 19 19:04:25 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1453-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 18:10:37 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:10:37 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:10:31 0000 Received: (qmail 13887 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 18:10:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13796 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 18:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 18:10:35 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp24.cubenet.de[194.97.90.24]) (1707 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:10:29 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1999-Feb-18) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:02:44 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5C3A.AB5CD940.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:04:25 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Oliver Kastl On Friday, February 19, 1999 2:09 AM, Rick Giles [SMTP:rickgiles@clear.net.nz] wrote: > From: Rick Giles > > > |>> The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. >Can this be > |>Try to edit the ToolTypes of the DPAINT.info > |>There must be such a line with CLOSEWB=YES (put it to NO) or something > |>similar ... > |>Good Luck ! > > Looked before asked here, all there are is: > > AutoGrid > FastAdjust > AutoGrid > > I tryed your suggestion and it dosn't work (yes or =no). But someone > has a hack and someone has LockPubScreen, whatever that is. > > Someone asked this question a day before me or so, what are the > chances of that?! If everything fails... Open a CLI (Shell) window before starting DPaint. The Workbench will stay open. Cheers, Oliver Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like the colors orange and blue, you will like our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From skvr@swipnet.se Fri Feb 19 17:46:35 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1454-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 18:31:19 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:31:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:31:12 0000 Received: (qmail 18561 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 18:25:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18498 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 18:25:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb06.swip.net) (193.12.122.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 18:25:12 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup184-3-10.swipnet.se [130.244.184.138]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05102 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:30:49 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:46:35 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello ken On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: > From: ken > After some time using the amiga, and especially today, leaching 2 different > sites dry, and having that rc5 contest also running, it ocurred to me maybe > one more reason why amiga may have fallen down. > The PC's claim to have multi tasking, but we all know it's only simulated > compared to what the amiga can do (has done for the past 15 years...) > Anyways if you think about it, if the amiga had become as popular as the > pc's, can you imagine the bottlenecks on the web with everyone using an > amiga and leaching 2 or more pages at a time ? If Amiga had been as popular as the PC, we would be having scare-the-crap-outta-you fast processors, dog-cheap gfx cards, insanely fast busses and connections and the world would be a better place! Remember, only people actually developing the Amiga during the years since 1993 are small fiftheenth party developers whose pockets were nowhere as deep as IBM's, Creative's, the VooDoo people's and so on... I thinks it's amazing how good the Amiga has been holding on without a mothercompany for, what is it, 6 years? Imagine where we would have been if Commodore weren't such screw-ups? -- /ZoomiX < mailto:skvr@swipnet.se > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss + + + + + + + + + + + + {~._.~} + + ( Y ) + + ()~+~() + + (_)-(_) + + + + + + + + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Feb 19 20:54:10 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1455-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 19:56:25 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:56:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:56:25 0000 Received: (qmail 1434 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 19:56:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 1214 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 19:56:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 19:56:41 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-232.enterprise.net [194.72.197.232]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24533 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:55:51 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:54:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > |>one more reason why amiga may have fallen down. > Conspiracy! > |>The PC's claim to have multi tasking, but we all know it's only simulated > Well, they can blitz us these days can't they? Hardly simulated. Yep, even though there comparitavely slow, my P333 is a LOT faster then most things on my 040 A1200. > |>I've used this multi for a long while now on the web for reading the daily > |>newspaper from excite, while waiting for newsgroups or mail lists to load, > Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If > so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. You can do that on a PC no prob. A P200 could probably do it with minimum slowdown, to be honest. Due to years of neglect the Amiga really is behind in raw speed-wise, even with a PPC as most stuff still runs on slow 68k chips. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. 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Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Feb 19 20:56:39 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1456-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 19:58:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:58:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:58:47 0000 Received: (qmail 25911 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 19:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 25906 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 19:53:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 19:53:08 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-232.enterprise.net [194.72.197.232]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24998 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:58:20 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:56:39 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > From: Rick Giles > |>> The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. >Can this be > |>Try to edit the ToolTypes of the DPAINT.info > |>There must be such a line with CLOSEWB=YES (put it to NO) or something > |>similar ... > |>Good Luck ! > Looked before asked here, all there are is: > AutoGrid > FastAdjust > AutoGrid What Version of DPaint is this. > I tryed your suggestion and it dosn't work (yes or =no). But someone > has a hack and someone has LockPubScreen, whatever that is. > Someone asked this question a day before me or so, what are the > chances of that?! I've worked out a way..... Open a small program, say the Time prefs. Then when it tries to close workbench, it CANT! (havn't tested it, but it worked for UFO) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Feb 19 20:59:10 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1457-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 20:01:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:01:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:01:34 0000 Received: (qmail 10905 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 20:01:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 10729 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 20:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 20:01:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-232.enterprise.net [194.72.197.232]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA25484 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:00:52 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:59:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >>> As for using it up for computerised tone things, immpossible as you >>> can't get it to dial numbers at will. (I think) > sure you can! just do it in the terminal program, what didi you think it was > for, just listening to other peoples phone calls!? ;) > just goto the address book, enter the number then tell the terminal program > to dial it No no no, thats not what I ment. to use those computerised things you have to tap a number after a prompt eg. "to view showing times, press 1..." "to book in advance, press 2" etc. You can't just get the modem to dial 2 while its still on the line, only when it first pickes up. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Fri Feb 19 21:30:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1458-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 22:26:33 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:26:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:26:32 0000 Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 22:20:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 18920 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 22:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 22:16:22 -0000 Received: from du-028-0252.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0252.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.252]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA23495 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:16:54 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 19 Feb 99 20:30:23 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Marco B." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <546.719T1170T12301306@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Commodity From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 19-Feb-99 17:08:18, Marco B. wrote: >i need a commodity that take a part of txt from a WB window >and paste it in a editor. >Anyone have the name of this commodity?? PowerSnap. Please don't crosspost, especially not directly to me :) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17104 2^28 blocks done -- COBOL: (n.) an old computer language, designed to be read and not run. 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Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 19 23:43:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1459-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 23:06:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:43 0000 Received: (qmail 1584 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 23:06:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1556 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 23:06:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 23:06:49 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.98] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Dyxq-0007Ff-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:04:06 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:43:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPG3 AUDIO QUESTION From: Stephen Williams Colin Wenzel wrote: > 2: With the AIFF file, use MP3encode to make the mp3... > > ** You had better have an 040 or 060 if you want to do it in under a > day... 8Hz-mp3 is a quicker encoder (the "8Hz" is the name of the coding team, not the sample rate it uses ;-) The Amiga port is by Mike "CStar" Cheng; he's a very clueful type who's done a few MP[23] encoder ports to the Amiga (as well as some other random Unix ports, I think). -Stephen http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 19 23:45:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1461-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 23:06:47 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:46 0000 Received: (qmail 13623 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 23:12:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13610 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 23:12:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 23:12:31 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.98] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Dyxt-0007Ff-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:04:09 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:45:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: Stephen Williams Mick Heyes wrote: >> Failing that, I'll try the hose attachment on my vacuum cleaner; though >> I have visions of sucking the keycaps off :-S > > I use a 1300 watt HITACHI vacum cleaner with a pair of my mums tights > over the nozzle. Just make sure she's not wearing the buggers at the > time :) Thanks for one of the funniest mental images I've had in a long time :-) -Stephen http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 19 23:43:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1460-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 23:06:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:06:47 0000 Received: (qmail 1624 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 23:06:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1581 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 23:06:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 23:06:50 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.98] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Dyxr-0007Ff-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:04:08 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:43:44 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE files From: Stephen Williams >> I am a collector of oldgames and for UAE >> the WEB is full !! > > There are loads but this includes disk images of legitimate games, > demo games and pirate games. A couple of legit ones can be found at: Katakis: http://www.factor5.com/download.htm Elite: http://people.netcom.co.uk/i.bell/elite/Default.html Elite can be written to a floppy using ADF2disk, as Nick mentioned. Katakis can be installed to your hard drive using an installed on this month's AFCD (AFCD37:-Websites-/jffabre/loaders/katakishd.lzx). > Talking of which, does anyone remember an old ('86 ish) game called > Faery Tale Adventure? People on comp.sys.amiga.games have been talking about this one for a couple of weeks. Never played it myself (I have never been seriously into the gaming scene), but it got a lot of good press in c.s.a.games. -Stephen http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 19 23:52:08 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1462-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 19 23:07:14 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:07:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:07:13 0000 Received: (qmail 19684 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 23:13:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19605 invoked from network); 19 Feb 1999 23:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 23:13:27 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.98] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10DyyE-0007Ff-00; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:04:31 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:52:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Stephen Williams Matthew O'Neill wrote: > I believe that you have to rename the wad to get it to work. I got the > doom2 wad, but had to rename it to get it to work. I called it DOOMu.WAD > and now it works, but unfortunately it won't let me use other shareware > wads!! :( The Linux Doom engine (from which all Amiga ports were done) expects the Doom 2 .WAD to be called "doom2.wad". The Ultimate Doom .WAD should be "doomu.wad". I have the Depths of Doom trilogy CD set; the Doom 2 CD has "doom2.wad" and that works fine for me with DoomAttack. The Ultimate Doom CD has the Ultimate Doom .WAD named "doom.wad", which is wrong (works for the PC version though); I solved the prob by making a symlink on my hard drive: makelink soft doomu.wad cd0:doom.wad Basically, passing this symlink to DoomAttack as the name of the .WAD file makes the engine think that "cd0:doom.wad" is actually a file on my hard drive called "doomu.wad", and everything works. -Stephen http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Fri Feb 19 16:21:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1463-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 00:12:37 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:37 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:36 0000 Received: (qmail 11210 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 00:07:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 11189 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 00:07:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 00:07:02 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.196.247] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:20 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:21:28 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga FTP daemons From: "Chris Seward" Does anyone know anyway to add ratios on AmiFTP program from the Aminet? or is there any other easy to set up FTP daemons that give good control and allow ratios to be used? ta! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Fri Feb 19 21:11:26 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1464-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 00:12:45 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:44 0000 Received: (qmail 11484 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 00:07:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11436 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 00:07:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 00:07:10 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.196.247] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:24 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:11:26 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Banner on AIO page From: "Chris Seward" I've set up on a new sceme with a site called Penny Web, a new banner is on the AIO page above the Amiga Zone one for registering .com domains or something similar, for every person that clicks on that banner and links to the site i get 2cents. Ok this may not seem much but if every 120+ visitors that visit the AIO site per week clicked on it it would slowly add up. The small amount of money that will be made will go towards the AIO registered domain so if you can't donate directly please go and click on the banner and get your friends to, the page is :- http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ I'm still accepting donations if anyone is interested. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Fri Feb 19 19:22:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1465-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 00:14:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:14:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:14:14 0000 Received: (qmail 13034 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 00:08:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13023 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 00:08:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 00:08:41 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.196.247] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:12:46 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dust From: "Chris Seward" Ok, its a bit late :) On 13-Feb-99, you wrote: > the sticky key. Disassembling a keyboard to clean out the dust bunnies > once in a blue moon should be seen as a long term investment. I find lots of blue 'fluff' building up below the keys surface, this takes a few years, but the side of a paper pushing it along right to the edge and then picking it out does the treat, unless the 'fluff' does a turn and gets pushed under one of the keys. It isn't worth thinking about what all the fluff is, if I did that i'd probably leave it there, full of dead human skin etc. Role on when they invent a keyboard with block between each key so nothing can get down in the depths of the dear miggy. Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Feb 20 02:02:26 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1466-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 01:19:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:19:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:19:43 0000 Received: (qmail 5825 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 01:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 5774 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 01:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 01:26:06 -0000 Received: from pm2-12.bahnhof.se (pm2-12.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.85]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02573 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:17:07 +0100 (MET) Date: 20 Feb 99 02:02:26 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: cbminfo In-Reply-To: <919431242.500@onelist.com> Message-ID: <1171.720T1345T1223642@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: "Jonas Thorell" cbminfo (cbminfo@digital.net) wrote: >So the question is how many others are using the Buddha or something else to >use IDE drives on their a3k's ? Sure. I'm using a Buddha, with a CD-changer and a 10 gig harddrive attached to it. Works like a treat. >I'd also like to know any problems, or what all is involved in setting the >a3k up to use ide vs scsi drives... If you want to just use a harddrive it basically is, to steal a windows term, plug and play. Plug in the card, plug in the harddrive, power up. Run HD-toolbox and do exactly the same procedure as when you last installed a SCSI-drive. You'll see all the drives in HD-toolbox from then on, both SCSI and IDE at the same time. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- If you're coasting, you're going downhill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Feb 20 02:02:33 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1467-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 01:19:50 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:19:50 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:19:49 0000 Received: (qmail 28210 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 01:23:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 28202 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 01:23:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 01:23:39 -0000 Received: from pm2-12.bahnhof.se (pm2-12.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.85]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02576 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:17:09 +0100 (MET) Date: 20 Feb 99 02:02:33 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Srdan Kvrgic" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <784.720T1681T1223454@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Jonas Thorell" Srdan Kvrgic (skvr@swipnet.se) wrote: >I thinks it's amazing how good the Amiga has been holding on without a >mothercompany for, what is it, 6 years? Imagine where we would have been if >Commodore weren't such screw-ups? Basically where we are now considering Commodores incompetence. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- It is only the shallow people who do not judge by appearance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Sat Feb 20 02:23:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1468-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 01:24:20 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:24:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:24:20 0000 Received: (qmail 16987 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 01:18:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16863 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 01:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 01:18:02 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22016 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc1-79.digital.net [206.228.234.79]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02818 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:23:49 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: Jonas Thorell Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:23:04 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1171.720T1345T1223642@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: ken >Sure. I'm using a Buddha, with a CD-changer and a 10 gig harddrive attached >to it. Works like a treat. Thats good to know, but it sure seems odd there's not many others saying anything about it.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From syzygy@sunlink.net Tue Feb 16 19:57:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1392-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 16 18:57:47 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:57:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:57:46 0000 Received: (qmail 14120 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 1999 18:54:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13944 invoked from network); 16 Feb 1999 18:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO earth.sunlink.net) (204.170.191.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 1999 18:54:13 -0000 Received: from jupiter.sunlink.net (syzygy@jupiter.sunlink.net [204.170.191.12]) by earth.sunlink.net (1.8.18/1.8.18) with ESMTP id NAA15160; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:57:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: Nano To: Amiga Universe ML cc: Just Amiga ML Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Max Transfer From: Nano Hello, In short: Hoping to find optimal max transfer for Quantum Viking 4.5g SCSI2. My system: A4T, using the stock SCSI controller that came with it [~one year old], filesystem is PFS2. Other particulars found in .sig. One other device on SCSI chain [cdr]. Two other drives, both IDE [.5gb and 1.6gb]. Why? The story... Purchased drive ~year ago. For past 6 months I've endured random data loss, sudden crashes [DH1:NDOS - needing to be reformatted], files suddenly becoming something else [i.e. picture i downloaded, views fine, next day can't load it, look at it and it's a bunch of random text from things/places I don't recall seeing anywhere on my system before]. As the frequency of this has been happening more and more often, I called Quantum -hoping to get an RMA for a replacement. They suggested that I A)Low level format. B)verify data on drive. C)change the max transfer. D)reformat the drive. They also suggested trying another cable which I will do shortly here. I told them that I have verified the drive and it found no bad blocks. The only thing I haven't done [I think] is low level -yet. I recall from a while ago [similar subject] that low level was not needed or necessary to do [that may have only applied to IDE though]. What I've done: I got the same results using FFS, AFS and PFS2. My max transfer is set to the default setting [0xffffff]. The drive is in 3 partitions so none of them exceed 2gb. Narrowed it down to the first gig that is causing problems. The rest of the drive beyond the 1g barrier does not produce the above problems. I get ~8.5 to 9mb/sec transfer with pfs2, below Quantums suggestion of lowering the max transfer to under 10mb/sec. Reformatted the drive many times trying both quick and normal format. It also did this before I got the CDR. Other than not knowing about the max transfer setting the only thing I've noticed [and perhaps this is the problem?] is that no matter how many times I define and save the drive type settings in HDToolBox, they don't stay there. They do stay for my other drives. Half true -When you first bring up HDTB it shows as Unknown. If you go into Change Drive Type there is a listing for the Quantum which I've previously defined. Yes, I've saved it with the appropriate drive type but when going back in HDTB after quitting or rebooting, gone. Maybe none of this needs to be done and it's simply a defective drive - which I tend to think. Quantum just wants to check all bases [which I understand] before replacing it. If they don't, I can live without ever using that first 1gb. Thank you for your time. _____ | . arcanum.org:4000 MUD <-Arcanum Staff---> nano@arcanum.org | . ISP <---SunLink Staff-> syzygy@sunlink.net . | . WWW <-----Home Page---> www.sunlink.net/nano . ! ...................................................................... : : Alpha-> Multia 21164@166 64mb RedHat SCSI2 . | . Amiga-> A4000T 68060@50 130mb PIV CDR12x4 OS3.1&MacOS8.1 SCSI2/3 . | Mac---> 7100/66 601@66 128mb OS8.1 SCSI2 _____! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From _caronte_@iol.it Thu Feb 18 22:08:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1422-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 18 15:07:46 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:07:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:07:45 0000 Received: (qmail 24502 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 1999 15:02:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24413 invoked from network); 18 Feb 1999 15:02:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.iol.it) (195.210.91.150) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 1999 15:02:28 -0000 Received: from iol.it ([151.13.74.156]) by mta2.iol.it (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA45D4; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:06:56 +0100 From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: UKAmiga CC: Amichat , Just-Amiga Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] HELP!! From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> HY, my name is Marco, anyone can help me please?? I found an old program named VBS, this program backup a device in to a video cassette VHS. What kind of cable i have to use?? Anyone have an electric schema of this cable?? Help please.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 20 02:44:17 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1469-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 02:44:50 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:44:50 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:44:49 0000 Received: (qmail 18779 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 02:45:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18697 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 02:45:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 02:45:01 -0000 Received: from modem-18.protactinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.18] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10E2Op-0004oZ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:44:11 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. 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Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 20 01:08:24 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1470-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 10:46:40 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:46:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:46:40 0000 Received: (qmail 15056 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 10:50:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15048 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 10:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 10:50:51 -0000 Received: from du-026-0342.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-026-0342.claranet.co.uk [195.8.90.88]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11745 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:41:03 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 20 Feb 99 00:08:24 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Andrew Crowe" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1999.720T1232T82060@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 19-Feb-99 19:54:10, Andrew Crowe wrote: >> |>The PC's claim to have multi tasking, but we all know it's only >simulated Windows multitasking sucks (one programmer mentioned he almost had nighmares over how it did it...), and sucks hard, but it's proper pre-emptive round robin multitasking... install Executive on your miggy and oy'll blow any NT box away though. >> Well, they can blitz us these days can't they? Hardly simulated. > Yep, even though there comparitavely slow, my P333 is a LOT faster >then most things on my 040 A1200. That sort of comparison is kind of silly. You said "most" things... find me 1 thing your 25/40MHz '040 does quicker than a P333. >> |>I've used this multi for a long while now on the web for reading the >daily >> |>newspaper from excite, while waiting for newsgroups or mail lists to >load, >> Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If >> so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. > You can do that on a PC no prob. A P200 could probably do it with >minimum slowdown, to be honest. The only problem you'll usually come accross is when Windows is paging out to swap. Windows virtual memory system is kinda lame (touch a keyboard on a Windows system and listen to it page off something for no apparant reason...). Loading apps also tends to make multitasking pretty useless... with big apps like Nutscrape this can be pretty irritating. > Due to years of neglect the Amiga really is behind in raw speed-wise, >even with a PPC as most stuff still runs on slow 68k chips. Due to years of neglect the Amiga really is behind full stop. Everything - the OS, the hardware, the software, everything. You could fix some of these by installing an *ix flavour, but then you're not using an Amiga anymore; you're using a crappy *ix box. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17128 2^28 blocks done -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Feb 20 11:55:27 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1471-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 10:57:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:57:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:57:42 0000 Received: (qmail 12444 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 10:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12439 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 10:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 10:51:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@ppp148.enterprise.net [194.72.195.148]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24022 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:57:11 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:55:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1999.720T1232T82060@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Yep, even though there comparitavely slow, my P333 is a LOT faster >> then most things on my 040 A1200. > That sort of comparison is kind of silly. You said "most" things... find me > 1 thing your 25/40MHz '040 does quicker than a P333. 1.It swaps between app screens a lot faster. Thats more of a h/w feature though, but still. 2.It also boots faster. 3.It logs on to the net quicker (PC waits a minute saying 'Loggin on to network'. Probably sending my copyright info to MS, grrrr...) 4.Um, It, er, moves the mouse pointer smoother. Thats all I've thought of so far. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From instantprint@allcomm.co.uk Sat Feb 20 12:26:45 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1472-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 11:25:30 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:25:30 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:25:29 0000 Received: (qmail 29664 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 11:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 29659 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 11:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brains.allcomm.co.uk) (195.74.100.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 11:19:04 -0000 Received: from andrew (dial59.allcomm.co.uk [195.74.100.123]) by brains.allcomm.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA02869 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:25:12 GMT (envelope-from instantprint@allcomm.co.uk) Message-ID: <000201be5cc3$ff0ef120$0e0c7b8f@andrew> From: "Andrew McCombe" To: Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:26:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Andrew McCombe" >> Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If >> so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. > > You can do that on a PC no prob. A P200 could probably do it with >minimum slowdown, to be honest. > Ok, try this. Load up Imagine, set up a scene and set it rendering. Now load up a Wordworth and print an a4 page. (at the same time) Is your amiga doing both at once? Now, load up photoshop on your PC, open a large-ish file, and apply a big blur filter. Now try & print something in MS word, whilst photoshop is applying the filter. Does that work? No. Power of Amiga. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Sat Feb 20 13:43:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1473-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 12:44:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:44:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:44:18 0000 Received: (qmail 5214 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 12:47:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5209 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 12:47:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 12:47:06 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA00546 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-31.digital.net [208.14.41.31]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA06307 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:43:51 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: Andrew McCombe Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:43:06 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000201be5cc3$ff0ef120$0e0c7b8f@andrew> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: ken >>> Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If >>> so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. >> >> You can do that on a PC no prob. A P200 could probably do it with >>minimum slowdown, to be honest. >> >Ok, try this. >Load up Imagine, set up a scene and set it rendering. >Now load up a Wordworth and print an a4 page. (at the same time) >Power of Amiga. Just to jump back into the fray, as you can see the subject has been modified from my original post to make the PC's look good. ie: 'can't do both!? ' I didn't stop at 2 items. I said reading mail in YAM, reading the excite newspaper in another window, running the RC5 contest, (this one takes 100% CPU time) who knows how many other tasks I've fired up SIP while all this activity is going on and with executive also running showing only those actually running , Not just WAITING, there was maybe 10 additionals.. using SIP I found usually more than a full page of tasks in the queue. BOTH !!! Gimme a break I wouldn't have said a thing with just BOTH. Heck my C=64 could do BOTH !... I was leaching several pages at once. D/L ing and modem activity takes up 100% of the CPU time also.. So there was the contest rc5 plus the modem tearing at each other for priority, and still had no problem reading several other windows at once.. Thats why the ami is still better than a PC. I've got a 386 sitting behind me. I can't even get it to work smoothly and fast using the turbo C compiler. I know I wouldn't want windows bogging that down any more.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 20 14:49:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1474-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 15:15:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:48 0000 Received: (qmail 30613 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 15:18:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 30607 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 15:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 15:18:51 -0000 Received: from du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.187]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11319 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:10:17 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 20 Feb 99 13:49:37 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Andrew Crowe" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1413.720T1852T8292384@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 20-Feb-99 10:55:27, Andrew Crowe wrote: >Hi Everybody, >>> Yep, even though there comparitavely slow, my P333 is a LOT faster >>> then most things on my 040 A1200. >> That sort of comparison is kind of silly. You said "most" things... >> find me 1 thing your 25/40MHz '040 does quicker than a P333. > 1.It swaps between app screens a lot faster. Thats more of a h/w >feature though, but still. App *screens*? I think that's a feature unknown to Windows :) > 2.It also boots faster. If your miggy had to load all the crap Windows loads (like most of a big web browser...), trust me, it would take the miggy a lot longer... > 3.It logs on to the net quicker (PC waits a minute saying 'Loggin on >to network'. Probably sending my copyright info to MS, grrrr...) That's a settings problem - disable "lot on to network" in your dial-up settings. > 4.Um, It, er, moves the mouse pointer smoother. That's also a hardware/settings thing - the Amiga uses hardware sprites, but with some GFX cards Windows has to software render the mouse pointer. Windows crappy multitasking probably also has a factor... >Thats all I've thought of so far. Find a more valid one :P Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17153 2^28 blocks done -- WinErr 006: Not enough memory to display er ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 20 14:59:54 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1475-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 15:15:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:53 0000 Received: (qmail 9234 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 15:09:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9229 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 15:09:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 15:09:58 -0000 Received: from du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.187]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11329 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:10:21 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 20 Feb 99 13:59:54 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: Loki In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <701.720T2720T8393476@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: YAM-Taglines From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 20-Feb-99 01:44:17, Loki wrote: > Does anybody know why the taglines in YAM dont work properly? Before you start getting into that you should trim your .sig to make room - it's too big. >All I get is a SPEW up of the entire file!!, ant a load of `%'`s Have you set the delimiter properly? If the tagfile uses %, you need to change it in Yam from the default %%. You might also want to delete .hsh >it sucks :( Anyone help? Well, it is a preview ;) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17157 2^28 blocks done -- He said "ENQ?". "NAK!", she replied. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 20 14:55:09 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1476-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 15:15:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:15:53 0000 Received: (qmail 9751 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 15:19:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9742 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 15:19:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 15:19:12 -0000 Received: from du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.187]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11326 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:10:20 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 20 Feb 99 13:55:09 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Andrew McCombe" In-Reply-To: <000201be5cc3$ff0ef120$0e0c7b8f@andrew> Message-ID: <1374.720T477T8350853@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 20-Feb-99 11:26:45, Andrew McCombe wrote: >>> Are you telling me that the usual household PC can't do both!? If >>> so then perhaps you're right about 'simulated'. >> >> You can do that on a PC no prob. A P200 could probably do it with >>minimum slowdown, to be honest. >> >Ok, try this. >Load up Imagine, set up a scene and set it rendering. >Now load up a Wordworth and print an a4 page. (at the same time) >Is your amiga doing both at once? *Very* slowly... >Now, load up photoshop on your PC, open a large-ish file, and apply a big >blur filter. Now try & print something in MS word, whilst photoshop is >applying the filter. >Does that work? >No. One small example of how utterly shite Windows is at prioritising stuff. Try it in Linux using the GIMP and Wordperfect (all free software) instead :) >Power of Amiga. That's it, multitasking? What about how it takes the Wintel 50 seconds to render an image in Imagine and it takes the miggy several hours? What about how easy it is for badly behaved software to crash AmigaOS? What about the lack of any reasonable form of memory management under AmigaOS? Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17153 2^28 blocks done -- User-friendly: (adj.) trivialized, slow, incapable, and boring. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Feb 20 17:01:53 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1477-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 16:09:02 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:09:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:09:01 0000 Received: (qmail 31767 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 16:12:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 31760 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 16:12:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 16:12:06 -0000 Received: from pm1-17.bahnhof.se (pm1-17.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.30]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18735 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:06:29 +0100 (MET) Date: 20 Feb 99 17:01:53 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <875.720T2696T10214833@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: "Jonas Thorell" ken (cbminfo@digital.net) wrote: >>Sure. I'm using a Buddha, with a CD-changer and a 10 gig harddrive attached >>to it. Works like a treat. >Thats good to know, but it sure seems odd there's not many others saying >anything about it.. Maybe because they don't bother with IDE-drives for some reason? I only know one other person with an A3k that's using IDE and it works fine for him too. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. 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Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Sat Feb 20 16:42:41 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1478-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 16:27:03 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:27:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:27:03 0000 Received: (qmail 13984 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 16:33:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11184 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 16:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 16:32:51 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA20482 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:42:20 GMT Message-Id: <199902201542.PAA20482@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:42:41 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Old games (was Re: UAE Files) From: Lupus Yonderboy On Thu, Feb 19, 1999, at 04:22 PM, Nick Bergquist wrote: [snip] > Talking of which, does anyone remember an old ('86 ish) game called > Faery Tale Adventure? I remember playing it some years ago on the > first Amiga I ever met - a mate's A500. I'd love to have a go with it > again for old time's sake. Anyone got it and want to sell/give it to > me out there?!! That reminded me... Anyone remembers Floor 13, a Conflict-like game but somewhat more addictive? 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Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Sat Feb 20 17:32:36 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1479-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 16:33:40 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:33:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:33:39 0000 Received: (qmail 156 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 16:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 115 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04983 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-87.digital.net [208.14.41.87]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15085 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: Jonas Thorell Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:32:36 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <875.720T2696T10214833@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: ken >Maybe because they don't bother with IDE-drives for some reason? I only >know one other person with an A3k that's using IDE and it works fine >for him too. What I got from the designer/owner of Buddha is that he thinks you can completely remove the SCSI controller and chips. (not that he's tried it yet on his testbench 3000). He says he's sold over 1300.. Thing is what I know is the thing works on a1200, a600 and a4k. Which already is IDE. That makes me wonder just how many of the 1300 are being used on a3k's.. I'm waiting mail from Jens right now on a recommendation for IDE drives that work perfectly with his Buddha. I have several Quantums on hand. 2 from my c=64/128 100 and 120 meg, + this 1.3 gig in the amiga. Trouble is this 1.3 gig (just over a year old out of warranty now, makes me want to think twice about going with Quantum again) is now creating bad sectors daily. I just fired up hdtools and added 4 more bad sectors before getting the hardware error 2! and still hadn't even made it to where I'd stopped yesterday. Todays sectors started about Cylinder 500+-, and I now have over 1600+ bad blocks. Once I'm warmed up, if I get a guru, or need to do a reset, the odds are I'll have a hard time getting it to reboot (the 100 meg has NO problems at all and thats the boot drive.) Today (I keep the cover off now till I find the actual problem) it happened and I have a bottle of quick cold sitting here. I've found if I spray from the front right side under the 2nd slot used to hold a floppy platform leg in place into that hole aiming to the center of the machine it will reboot on next CTRL LAMIGA RAMIGA with no prob. Spraying the individual drives does nothing, spraying on the left side (facing the miggy) spraying anywhere on the left does nothing. I'm pretty sure I'm overshooting the memory chips. It seems to be aimed at the CPU itself. My luck theres 64+ legs on that CPU chip and it'd be cheaper to replace the motherboard, trouble is C= isn't making any new boards. Wonder if there are any NEW CPU'S being made ? Or if replacing might just be replacing with another bad one ? Well still have a lot more troubleshooting before I say this is the problem. I'm just guessing CPU right now. Maybe there's some a3k GIF's around the web. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 08:18:23 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1480-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 17:22:29 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:28 0000 Received: (qmail 20135 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 17:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 20089 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 17:25:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 17:25:33 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18246; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:21:58 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:18:23 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Budget From: Rick Giles Looking for a good spreadsheet that can provide graphs too, something on aminet I expect. Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- The memorys grow sweeter each season, as we slowly grow old. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 01:03:12 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1481-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 17:22:54 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:54 0000 Received: (qmail 26569 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 17:26:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26494 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 17:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 17:26:12 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18291; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:22:31 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:03:12 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Dpaint Closing Workbench From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>> The default for Dpaint is to close Wb, how annoying. Can this be |>overcome? |>goto settings, untick the close workbench bit and save the settings ? Sorry Mashman, no such option as save settings. Don't anybody think it works just because you have yam running. Dpaint can't close wb if 'stuff' is happening, like yam or multiview for instance. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Curiosity killed the cat and split the atom, though niether directly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 00:09:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1482-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 17:22:57 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:57 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:22:56 0000 Received: (qmail 18582 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 17:16:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 18577 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 17:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 17:16:58 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18298; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:22:37 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: AmiMajik Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:09:37 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what AmiMajik wrote on 19-Feb-99: |>> I've seen from time to time that when the computer gets a voice on the |>> other end of the modem,that it comes clearly through the speaker. |>look at your modem manual, there is a command... however it differs between |>modems. I have, it dosn't help. Does do it if it makes the call itself though which isn't quite good enough. |>The command for my spirit is #ATM2# = speaker always on Cool, that makes all telephone activity audible? Where do you stick this command? If it's just the normal window then it's not for me. (terminus and a dynalink 14400) Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Curiosity killed the cat and split the atom, though niether directly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 00:57:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1483-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 17:23:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:23:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:23:09 0000 Received: (qmail 5862 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 17:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5851 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 17:16:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 17:16:30 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA18308; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:22:46 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:57:18 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 18-Feb-99: |>> Before I had my expantion I used an executable to set the clock and |>> I just changed the time each session. The last time I needed to |>> do it was in august and that executable is hidden somewhere I can't |>> find it. |>stick aminet in your startup and find the name of the program doing it. then |>you can search for it easily You talk as if aminet were a program that traced executables or something. It's not easy to do. I don't know the cause, but when the clock fails my computer reverts to augest 97. I never know when this will happen, I don't plan the crashes. Suppose the best I can do is have a permanent snoopdos going and be ready when it happens.....nope. It dosn't write the file until later and in case of a crash it never will. 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See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Fri Feb 19 22:49:11 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1484-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 17:26:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:26:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:26:12 0000 Received: (qmail 15025 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 17:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 15020 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 17:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 17:19:37 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.167] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id na713713 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:23:58 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36CCA299.MD-0.196.sanky@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPG3 AUDIO QUESTION From: Riccardo Cretti Hello SANKEY! On 18-Feb-99, you wrote: > Does anyone know of a program, that allows a user to take a track > from an audio CD, convert it to WAV, then compress it into an MPG3 > sound file?? With CDDA you can take the track from CD audio to HD in AIFF, IFF or WAV. Then, with an MPG encoder, you can obtain the MP3 file. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 20:35:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1485-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 18:06:23 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:06:23 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:06:22 0000 Received: (qmail 28660 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 18:06:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 28652 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 18:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 18:06:56 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p053.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.117]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id HAA20578; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:06:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Loki Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:35:04 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: YAM-Taglines From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Loki wrote on 20-Feb-99: |> Does anybody know why the taglines in YAM dont work properly? I get it to load a set file with a tagline it it. But the tagline changes every time I run directoryopus because it runs an arexx script that 'randomly' (arexx dosn't do random, I'll have to ask about it more one day) selects from my AmiQWK taglines. Works well, except the random part isn't all that hot. And as for running with directoryopus, don't know why I did that. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Curiosity killed the cat and split the atom, though niether directly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Feb 20 22:13:06 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1486-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 21:20:10 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:20:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:20:09 0000 Received: (qmail 8391 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 21:13:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8381 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 21:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 21:13:40 -0000 Received: from 195.178.166.17 (pm1-04.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.17]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10724 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:17:33 +0100 (MET) Date: 20 Feb 99 22:13:06 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1718.720T318T13332755@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: "Jonas Thorell" ken (cbminfo@digital.net) wrote: >What I got from the designer/owner of Buddha is that he thinks you can >completely remove the SCSI controller and chips. (not that he's tried it yet >on his testbench 3000). Unless the 3000 checks for the presence of those chips, I can't see a reason for it not to work. >He says he's sold over 1300.. Thing is what I know is > the thing works on a1200, a600 and a4k. Which already is IDE. How do you add Zorro-slots to a 600?? >That makes me wonder just how many of the 1300 are being used on a3k's.. I'm >waiting mail from Jens right now on a recommendation for IDE drives that >work perfectly with his Buddha. IBM Deskstar. >I have several Quantums on hand. 2 from my c=64/128 100 and 120 meg, + this >1.3 gig in the amiga. Trouble is this 1.3 gig (just over a year old out of >warranty now, makes me want to think twice about going with Quantum again) is > now creating bad sectors daily. I think the drive itself is going bad. I've almost exclusively used Quantums and have no bad experiences regarding them. Stay clear of Seagate though. >Well still have a lot more troubleshooting before I say this is the problem. >I'm just guessing CPU right now. I'm guessing: Heat problems. --- Let me take you on a trip around the world and back, and you won't have to move. You just sit still. Now let your mind do the walking. --- Human beings are consistently inconsistent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Sat Feb 20 22:27:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1487-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 21:28:32 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:28:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:28:31 0000 Received: (qmail 9338 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 21:22:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9323 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 21:22:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 21:22:15 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09989 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-64.digital.net [208.14.41.64]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA07536 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:28:09 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: Jonas Thorell Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1718.720T318T13332755@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: ken >>Well still have a lot more troubleshooting before I say this is the problem. >>I'm just guessing CPU right now. >I'm guessing: Heat problems. Think thats what I said, Sprayed some quick cool to the right side of the machine most likely hit the cpu. So either I get a bigger/better fan, a brine cooler, or a huge heat sink, but for the time being I need to find out whats over heating. I suspect the CPU.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 20 13:17:43 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1488-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 22:24:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:24:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:24:24 0000 Received: (qmail 24305 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 22:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 24182 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 22:18:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 22:18:11 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:23:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.6] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:23:28 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:17:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Free Aminet 29 CD anyone? From: "Chris Seward" As AIO is uploaded to the internet once per month I receive the deal to purchase the Aminet CDs at just a postage rate. As lot of you on this list read AIO so I am offering our reduced copy away to anyone who wants it. The price europe is 10DM, 6DM in Germany or 17DM outside europe. If you want it then please email me direct at :- amiga@thefree.net I'd prefer someone in Europe who wants it, either Germany or England. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Feb 20 16:10:26 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1489-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 22:24:46 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:24:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:24:46 0000 Received: (qmail 24671 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 22:18:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24665 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 22:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 22:18:32 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:24:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.6] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:23:57 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com, craigm@choice.southern.co.nz, Ngadd@southcom.com.au, kwdjc@wf.net, paul@delaney.demon.co.uk, rexel@sci.fi, pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com, juneau@freenet.hut.fi, kkilfedder@iee.org, elp@algonet.se, pb125@global.co.za, The-logics@usa.net, l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk, skuld@inconnu.isu.edu, taoberly@mindspring.com, marianol@hotmail.com, Drac@micks-cupboard.demon.co.uk, Dikrin@Acropolis.Net, rowinggiul@tin.it, dlbenson@psnw.com, elp@algonet.se, banzi@CS.UniBO.IT, goran.cvijanovic@in2.hr, chridez@club-internet.fr, philbert@start.com.au, jason@albatross.co.uk, regl@qb.island.net, vgouret@ireste.fr, mik@termv.jammys.net, craig@promptus.demon.co.uk, jperez@colon.net, elmcclur@yahoo.com, amiga.eagle@england.com, joopdejong@wxs.nl, nick@nab.u-net.com, ikoloski@mpt.com.mk, msawyer@netcom.com, csonne@get2net.dk, chris@doorhand.demon.co.uk, ambartsumian@glas.apc.org, info@compcity.nl, d_rivic@usa.net, siegel@siegel.in-berlin.de, 95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk, rennex@icon.fi, classic@thenet.co.uk, drstrange@usa.net, list-pr@amigazone.com, coenradi@cybercomm.nl, lairfight@softhome.net, teamamiga@thule.no, emeck@imarpe.gob.pe, morden@mcmail.com, langard@ebox.tninet.se, lyndon_c@hotmail.com, axis@distrinet.com.uy, rbiondi@mgr.com.br, pertorp@vip.cybercity.dk, letok@geocities.com, paul@valerie.u-net.com, clubbed@williams.demon.co.uk, perniolapa@bccsanteramo.it, p-e.soderberg@ebox.tninet.se, ps6666@aol.com, zaaron@galaxycom.net.nz, ours@noname.fr, lsd@tekrum.com, templar@net-link.net, barry@beestonb.freeserve.co.uk, 777@eastwind.com.au, stephens@netutah.com, curtcool@image.dk, mr.wibble@bigfoot.com, rocketperson@hotmail.com, ianurie@jwu.u-net.com, sd50086@lanet.lv, nallen@shipley.ac.uk, b.j.gaskell@iti.salford.ac.uk, hazy68@usa.net, tng@uq.net.au, KiloTwo@netcomuk.co.uk, alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk, mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk, acexe2@iname.com, muchar@promail.pl, bh@raut.de, ant@bridgebarn.freeserve.co.uk, fb691875@er.uqam.ca, bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk, steve@brackenburgh.demon.co.uk, garyr@icon.net, ja49@rapid.co.uk, elessar@dei.unipd.it, jeroen@infothuis.nl, abodo@netnitco.net, paul@pwalker69.freeserve.co.uk, bergei@online.no, tenbelly@netcomuk.co.uk, annsal@asan.com, faborg@usa.net, smassina@yahoo.com, luke@skywalker.8m.com, mjpicard@uswest.net, keelhaul@tig.com.au, digital-images@egroups.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga Information Online issue 21 out now... From: "Chris Seward" !!!AMIGA INFORMATION ONLINE OUT NOW!!! ******************************* Issue 21 of Amiga Information Online (AIO) has been released today 20.2.99. Some of the best features of this issue are :- Huge editorial about clickBOOM problems, with some exclusive bits! The Amiga in your country artcile. Interview with Jim Cooper Sooping up your system part 2 Rumour mill Genetic Species full review Gilbert Goodmate demo previewed Many interesting news articles, all the latest! Directory Opus Megallan II review. PFS2 full review. Issue 21 has alot lot more and is definatly worth taking a look at. If you have any letters, comments, suggestions, reviews, adverts or articles for next issue please send them to : *amiga@thefree.net* by *17th March 1999*. You can find issue 21 in the next few days at : URL : *HTTP://WWW.AMIGA1.DEMON.CO.UK/AIO/ * Aminet: *DOCS/MAGS/AIOV21.LHA* Email : *The-logics@usa.com* (request issue 21) Please allow 3-4 days for issue 21 to appear on web site and aminet. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat Feb 20 21:33:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1490-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 22:49:14 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:49:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:49:13 0000 Received: (qmail 5177 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 22:42:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5061 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 22:42:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 22:42:35 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p016.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.80]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id LAA10015; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:48:44 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:33:29 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 19-Feb-99: |>just load AMTerm and type in "atdt" that basically tells the modem to pick |>up the reciever :) But it realises there is 'no dialtone' and drops it. Terminus does. |>be warned though, the other guy on the phone will hear it click and the |>sound quality will degrade somewhat Just like the real thing. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Life in the long term is for longer than life in the short term. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sun Feb 21 01:24:29 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1491-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 22:49:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:49:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:49:17 0000 Received: (qmail 24112 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 22:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24074 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 22:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 22:55:40 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p016.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.80]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id LAA10034; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:48:49 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:24:29 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Terminus IN my way From: Rick Giles I like to have Terminus running all the time to let me know if the phone is rigging down the other end of the house. It gets in the way though when I'm flicking between screens. Unfortunatly I can't bypass it and in iconofied mode it's inactive. I can put it on a wb screen and flick it to the back, but I flick things all the time so it'll come up in my way again. So on the off chance, anybody know how I can tell it to sod off? Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- Never do anything that a machine can do as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Feb 20 23:46:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1492-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 22:53:40 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:53:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:53:39 0000 Received: (qmail 7183 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 22:47:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7163 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 22:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 22:47:27 -0000 Received: from du-028-0237.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0237.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.237]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04914 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:48:00 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 20 Feb 99 22:46:37 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Rick Giles" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1146.720T1858T13662346@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: YAM-Taglines From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 20-Feb-99 19:35:04, Rick Giles wrote: >From: Rick Giles >It's simply incredible what Loki wrote on 20-Feb-99: >|> Does anybody know why the taglines in YAM dont work properly? > I get it to load a set file with a tagline it it. But the tagline >changes every time I run directoryopus because it runs an arexx >script that 'randomly' (arexx dosn't do random, I'll have to ask >about it more one day) selects from my AmiQWK taglines. NUM=RANDOM([],[],[}) It's a bit lame, though, and doesn't seem to support the sort of numbers needed for any decent size tagfile, so I prefer rexxtricks.lib's rand() function which I use in an ARexx function to pick my tagline from a Yam format tagfile. It would also be possible to scale a randu() call rat returns a number between 0 and 1. Seed is best taken from a time(s). Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17214 2^28 blocks done -- This universe is sold by mass, not by volume. Some expansion may have occurred during shipment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andyl@zetnet.co.uk Sat Feb 20 23:20:56 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1493-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Feb 20 23:22:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:22:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:22:13 0000 Received: (qmail 2772 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 23:15:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 2752 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 23:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 23:15:37 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-170.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.216]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01667 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:21:47 GMT From: Andrew Lowes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Ugly Crossdos icons From: Andrew Lowes Does anybody know how to get Crossdos to use a different icon when it's formatted an MS-Dos disk? The default one is awful! -- ---------------------------------------- Andrew Lowes is now available in widescreen. andyl@zetnet.co.uk. ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sun Feb 21 01:30:32 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1494-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 00:38:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:38:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:38:43 0000 Received: (qmail 20382 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 00:43:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20371 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 00:43:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 00:43:25 -0000 Received: from pm2-20.bahnhof.se (pm2-20.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.93]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22786 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:36:05 +0100 (MET) Date: 21 Feb 99 01:30:32 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: ken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1036.721T1615T903372@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 35 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: IDE and A3k From: "Jonas Thorell" ken (cbminfo@digital.net) wrote: >>I'm guessing: Heat problems. >Think thats what I said, Yep, just wanted to reinforce it... >Sprayed some quick cool to the right side of the >machine most likely hit the cpu. So either I get a bigger/better fan, a brine >cooler, or a huge heat sink, but for the time being I need to find out whats >over heating. Not necessarily just one part. A combo of the cpu and a harddisk for instance could make the heat a problem even though they wouldn't cause as much heat individually. 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Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Sun Feb 21 02:45:41 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1495-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 01:45:58 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:45:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:45:57 0000 Received: (qmail 10078 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 01:49:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10073 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 01:49:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 01:49:30 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA23153 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:45:18 GMT Message-Id: <199902210145.BAA23153@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 02:45:41 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] News filtering From: Lupus Yonderboy I am using NNTPXfer to get news for offline reading and I was wondering if there is any program of the same sort that would allow filtering news before download. Like, to set up file with 'banned' headers which will block stuff with 'Subject: $$$CASH$$$' or 'From: spammer@yahoo.com' and it would not get them from NNTP server. Also, is there nntpxfer-alike that can download certain nummber of messages? Eg, to set max. to 200 and if newsgroup have 500 new messages it would download last 200. -- PGP keys available via keyservers, finger or at www.rcub.bg.ac.yu/~lupusy Both keys are under the same UserID = 1024-bit RSA key KeyID=9CCDB6E5 fpr = 08104108C9A5352B 780D9A18ED3F8A74 2048-bit RSA key KeyID=43AC2F55 fpr = F516BC335C0BAF86 65DB67A827F266B5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hotcakes@abacus.net.au Sun Feb 21 15:03:08 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1496-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 08:34:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:34:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:34:51 0000 Received: (qmail 17503 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 08:28:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 17454 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 08:28:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a1bbs.abacus.net.au) (203.32.176.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 08:28:07 -0000 Received: from [203.32.176.35] by abacus.net.au id 98970.wrk; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:04:46 EDT From: Toby Zuijdveld To: Lupus Yonderboy Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:03:08 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199902201542.PAA20482@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Res=A1stance?= Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Old games From: Toby Zuijdveld On 20-Feb-99, Lupus Yonderboy set out across the seas with this message: ->> Talking of which, does anyone remember an old ('86 ish) game called ->> Faery Tale Adventure? I remember playing it some years ago on the ->> first Amiga I ever met - a mate's A500. I'd love to have a go with ->> again for old time's sake. Anyone got it and want to sell/give it to ->> me out there?!! -> That reminded me... Anyone remembers Floor 13, a Conflict-like ->somewhat more addictive? You are not Israeli premiear anymore, but ->MI-5 (if I remember well). That is the game I lost years back and ->find it anywhere. While we're on the topic of games nobody remembers ;], I'll chuck in "Merv The Merciless" =] -- *************** *** CAT TAG *** "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on *************** us. 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Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 20-Feb-99, you wrote: >>stick aminet in your startup and find the name of the program doing it. >> then you can search for it easily Well spank me with a big wet fish, where did the word aminet come from!!??? that should have been snoopdos!, sorry, I really have no idea how managed to mix them up?...... > You talk as if aminet were a program that traced executables or > something. I have all of aminet on a floppy disk ;) > It's not easy to do. I don't know the cause, but when the clock > fails my computer reverts to augest 97. I never know when this > will happen, I don't plan the crashes. do you mean that the clock only resets after a crash? Have you tied changing the battery? or leave your computer on overnight to recharge the battery ? > Suppose the best I can do is have a permanent snoopdos going and > be ready when it happens.....nope. It dosn't write the file > until later and in case of a crash it never will. You read my mind ;) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 20 17:59:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1498-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 14:35:22 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:35:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:35:22 0000 Received: (qmail 29558 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 14:28:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29547 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 14:28:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 14:28:05 -0000 Received: from modem-109.selenium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.16.237] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10EZyJ-0001wz-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:35:03 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1413.720T1852T8292384@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Thomas On 20-Feb-99, you wrote: >> 2.It also boots faster. > If your miggy had to load all the crap Windows loads (like most of a big > web browser...), trust me, it would take the miggy a lot longer... Yeah, but that's the thing, it doesn't. >> Thats all I've thought of so far. > Find a more valid one :P The amiga has a HELP key, strange how PCs don't isn't it ? ;) Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ianurie@jwu.u-net.com Sun Feb 21 22:13:00 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1500-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 16:58:22 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:58:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:58:21 0000 Received: (qmail 18778 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 17:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18769 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 17:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 17:03:39 -0000 Received: from (p82.nas1.is3.u-net.net) [195.102.196.82] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 10EcCv-0003Rb-00; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:58:18 +0000 Date: 21 Feb 99 16:13:00 -0500 From: "ian urie" To: "Matthew O'Neill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <722.721T0T9733847@jwu.u-net.com> Organization: At Home X-Installer: Wirenet 1.8 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: "ian urie" On 20-Feb-99 11:55:52, Matthew O'Neill said about [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August?: > From: Matthew O'Neill > do you mean that the clock only resets after a crash? > Have you tied changing the battery? or leave your computer on overnight to > recharge the battery ? >> Suppose the best I can do is have a permanent snoopdos going and I might have missed something here....a bad crash which resets your clock. Use dateinspector available from aminet in your WBStartup.If your clock resets it will warn you and load the date/time prefs for you.Works for me! -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 Happiness: a combination of good health and a bad memory. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sun Feb 21 17:49:17 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1501-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 17:30:03 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:30:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:30:02 0000 Received: (qmail 4140 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 17:22:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4134 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 17:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 17:22:38 -0000 Received: from du-026-0235.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-026-0235.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.235]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29036 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:24:15 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 21 Feb 99 16:49:17 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Matthew O'Neill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1078.721T855T10091071@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: thoughts From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 20-Feb-99 16:59:13, Matthew O'Neill wrote: >Hi Thomas >On 20-Feb-99, you wrote: >>> 2.It also boots faster. >> If your miggy had to load all the crap Windows loads (like most of a big >> web browser...), trust me, it would take the miggy a lot longer... >Yeah, but that's the thing, it doesn't. Meaning you can't compare your '040 and x86 from boot times, unless possibly if you installed Linux on both machines... >>> Thats all I've thought of so far. >> Find a more valid one :P >The amiga has a HELP key, strange how PCs don't isn't it ? ;) PC have several help keys actually, Ctrl Alt and Del ;) Actually it's cunningly disguised as the menu key and is placed in an incredibly irritating position where I keep hitting it :/ For no apparant reason M$ decided to replace the help key with F1... hmmm, now that's logical :) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17278 2^28 blocks done -- Daddy, what does "Formatting drive C:" mean? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu Sun Feb 21 17:43:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1499-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 18:35:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:35:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:35:09 0000 Received: (qmail 7171 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 16:45:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 1451 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 16:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu) (147.91.1.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 16:44:03 -0000 Received: from rcub.bg.ac.yu (afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu [147.91.1.129]) by afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA10988 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <199902211643.QAA10988@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:43:47 +0100 (CET) From: Lupus Yonderboy Organization: Unorganized To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ModemSpeaker From: Lupus Yonderboy On Sun, Feb 21, 1999, at 07:33 AM, Rick Giles wrote: [snip] > |>just load AMTerm and type in "atdt" that basically tells the modem to > I>pick up the reciever :) > > But it realises there is 'no dialtone' and drops it. Terminus does. Than you type ATX3 and disable dialtone recognition :) [snip] -- PGP keys available via keyservers, finger or at www.rcub.bg.ac.yu/~lupusy Both keys are under the same UserID = 1024-bit RSA key KeyID=9CCDB6E5 fpr = 08104108C9A5352B 780D9A18ED3F8A74 2048-bit RSA key KeyID=43AC2F55 fpr = F516BC335C0BAF86 65DB67A827F266B5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sat Feb 20 19:13:01 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1503-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 18:47:00 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:47:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:46:59 0000 Received: (qmail 26993 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 18:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 26369 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 18:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 18:51:13 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.173] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id ya713854 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:43:35 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:13:01 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199902201542.PAA20482@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Old games (was Re: UAE Files) From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Lupus! On 20-Feb-99, you wrote: > That reminded me... Anyone remembers Floor 13, a Conflict-like game but > somewhat more addictive? You are not Israeli premiear anymore, but head of > MI-5 (if I remember well). That is the game I lost years back and can't > find it anywhere. Yeah! One of my favourite games from Virgin Games! You must help the government to stay over the 50% of approvation in the polls. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun Feb 21 13:54:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1504-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 21:34:59 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:34:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.221] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:34:56 0000 Received: (qmail 30681 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 21:42:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 30529 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 21:42:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 21:42:25 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.247] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10EgTP-00035e-00; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:31:36 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:54:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ugly Crossdos icons From: Stephen Williams Andrew Lowes wrote: > Does anybody know how to get Crossdos to use a different icon when it's > formatted an MS-Dos disk? The default one is awful! First, make a backup copy of your L:CrossDOSFileSystem. Next, load it into a hex editor (e.g. Zap), find the string "disk.info" in the file and change it to something else (e.g. "lame.info"). Using this altered version of L:CrossDOSFileSystem, MS-LOSS floppies will get the standard floppy disk icon. You could then use NewIcons and DefIcons to give a nicer default icon to MS-LOSS disks if you want. Anyways, that's what I do :-) -- +--<><--- Stephen Williams -- sw@nysa.u-net.com -- sw@fysh.org ---<><--+ +------- Amiga Technologies A1200HD 030/50 882/50 16Mb fastram --------+ +------------------- Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A 128Kb -------------------+ +------- Why not visit my homepage? http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ -------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Feb 21 21:23:48 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1505-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Feb 21 22:05:38 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:05:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.207] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:05:37 0000 Received: (qmail 16703 invoked by alias); 21 Feb 1999 21:58:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16258 invoked from network); 21 Feb 1999 21:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 1999 21:57:46 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-004.enterprise.net [194.72.198.4]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09908 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:04:03 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:23:48 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] (off topic?) CD32 pads on PeeCee'sss From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, I'm just wondering if anybody knows of a way to get CD-32 pads working on PC's (ick). Its just that I'm fed up with my rubbish PC joystic, but I have 2 perfectly good CD-32 (Competition Pro) pads of which one I hardly ever use. I could get a gameport adapter, but surly the protocall for the CD32 would be different to what the PC expects? Has anybody got a CD 32 pad working on a PC, or has any idea how to get it working please? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Mon Feb 22 04:55:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1506-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 03:58:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 03:58:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 03:58:11 0000 Received: (qmail 1915 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 04:03:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1909 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 04:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 04:03:49 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137014.voyager.net [209.153.137.14]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id WAA07074 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] what's last device From: jack york Hello, I saw a mention on one of the newsgroups that if you set the last device flag in the RDB of the boot disk it will speed up the boot process. I can't find this flag with HDToolBox. Does anyone know about this and how to set it? Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggestions on how we can improve ONElist? Go to the 'Suggestion' box on our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Mon Feb 22 09:24:54 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1507-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 08:24:11 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:24:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:24:11 0000 Received: (qmail 23905 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 08:17:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 23900 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 08:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 08:17:19 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp27.cubenet.de[194.97.90.27]) (1391 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:24:44 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1999-Feb-18) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:23:26 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:24:55 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE5E45.353B84C0.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:24:54 +0100 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: what's last device From: Oliver Kastl On Monday, February 22, 1999 4:56 AM, jack york [SMTP:jyork@voyager.net] wrote: > From: jack york > > Hello, > > I saw a mention on one of the newsgroups that if you set the last device > flag in the RDB of the boot disk it will speed up the boot process. I > can't > find this flag with HDToolBox. Does anyone know about this and how to > set > it? HDToolBox sets this automatically. HDInstTools does the same, but allows you to control it manually, too. Regards, Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes E-Mail: olli@elaborate-bytes.com http://www.elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue Aug 25 23:16:56 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1508-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 16:01:03 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:01:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:01:03 0000 Received: (qmail 12775 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 15:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 12731 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 15:52:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 15:52:58 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p055.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.119]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id FAA13600; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 05:00:39 +1300 (NZDT) From: Rick Giles To: Thomas Hurst Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:16:56 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1146.720T1858T13662346@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: YAM-Taglines From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 21-Feb-99: |>>script that 'randomly' (arexx dosn't do random, I'll have to ask |>>about it more one day) selects from my AmiQWK taglines. |>NUM=RANDOM([],[],[}) That's what I use, yep. And times is my seed. |>It's a bit lame, though, and doesn't seem to support the sort of numbers |>needed for any decent size tagfile, so I prefer rexxtricks.lib's rand() |>function which I use in an ARexx function to pick my tagline from a Yam |>format tagfile. Sounds good, it's exactly the trouble I have. Would you mind telling me how I can use this rexxtrick (got the lib) to do decent randoms? Though I do have a arexx guide around somewhere. Chears. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- We are all victims of society ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sun Feb 21 21:57:03 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1509-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 18:06:28 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:06:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:06:28 0000 Received: (qmail 19355 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 17:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 19296 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 17:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 17:58:13 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.173] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id na714285 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:04:05 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:57:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; address="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ugly Crossdos icons From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Andrew! On 20-Feb-99, you wrote: > Does anybody know how to get Crossdos to use a different icon when it's > formatted an MS-Dos disk? The default one is awful! Download DiskMonTools (on Aminet). Now, with the option FileMon (Disk), select the file CrossDOSFilesystem in L. Click on the search option, and insert disk.info. Modify the word disk to dosk, desk, or what you want. The internal icon generated in the code of CrossDOS isn't called disk.info now, so isn't showed on WB. If you install the program DefIcons (in the NewIcons4 archive), you can choose your favourite icon for PC disk. When you choosed it, copy it in SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive with the name def_MSD0 .info. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Explore a new interest; start a new hobby. Go to http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon Feb 22 15:59:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1510-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 19:39:06 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:39:06 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:39:05 0000 Received: (qmail 19038 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 19:39:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18782 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 19:39:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 19:39:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26478 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 19:38:42 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk (195.40.112.13) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 19:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19647 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 19:38:40 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-3.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.206.3) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 19:38:40 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 22 Feb 99 14:59:13 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.1 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ugly Crossdos icons From: "Andy Kinsella" Stephen Williams said this... > From: Stephen Williams > > Andrew Lowes wrote: > > Does anybody know how to get Crossdos to use a different icon when it's > > formatted an MS-Dos disk? The default one is awful! > > First, make a backup copy of your L:CrossDOSFileSystem. Next, load it > into a hex editor (e.g. Zap), find the string "disk.info" in the file > and change it to something else (e.g. "lame.info"). Using this altered > version of L:CrossDOSFileSystem, MS-LOSS floppies will get the standard > floppy disk icon. You could then use NewIcons and DefIcons to give a > nicer default icon to MS-LOSS disks if you want. I have a disk Icon in env:sys/ called "def_disk.info" that gets stuck to any disk I format. I guess there's a problem as all disk formats get the same Icon, but I don't care 'cos it looks nice (imo :)) > Anyways, that's what I do :-) And that, is what i do :) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Mon Feb 22 18:50:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1511-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 19:45:57 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:45:57 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:45:56 0000 Received: (qmail 11577 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 19:51:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11557 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 19:51:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Gunilla.passagen.se) (195.163.107.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 19:51:05 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (t3o68p14.telia.com [62.20.139.14]) by Gunilla.passagen.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19297 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:45:29 +0100 (MET) From: Linus Akesson To: Rick Giles Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it really August? From: Linus Akesson > lots snipped I'm sure this more-off-topic-every-day thread will remain alive, with the same subject, until August this year. =) Linus \\// [o][O] .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://fly.to/linus.world | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' Over 72% believe in statistical claims with no given source. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Mon Feb 22 21:20:47 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1512-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Feb 22 20:29:31 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:29:31 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:29:30 0000 Received: (qmail 10576 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 1999 20:37:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 10302 invoked from network); 22 Feb 1999 20:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 20:36:59 -0000 Received: from du-028-0247.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0247.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.247]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05888 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:23:17 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 22 Feb 99 20:20:47 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Rick Giles" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1446.722T2367T12203031@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: YAM-Taglines From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 25-Aug-98 22:16:56, Rick Giles wrote: >It's simply incredible what Thomas Hurst wrote on 21-Feb-99: >|>>script that 'randomly' (arexx dosn't do random, I'll have to ask >|>>about it more one day) selects from my AmiQWK taglines. >|>NUM=RANDOM([],[],[}) >That's what I use, yep. And times is my seed. >|>It's a bit lame, though, and doesn't seem to support the sort of numbers >|>needed for any decent size tagfile, so I prefer rexxtricks.lib's rand() >|>function which I use in an ARexx function to pick my tagline from a Yam >|>format tagfile. >Sounds good, it's exactly the trouble I have. Would you mind >telling me how I can use this rexxtrick (got the lib) to do >decent randoms? call addlib('rexxtricks.library',0,-30,0) MIN=0;MAX=5000 MyPsudoRandomNumber=rand(MIN,MAX,time(s)) If you need to generate lots of randoms very quickly, you might want to do something like: Seed=time(s) do for i=0 to 50 Random.i=rand(MIN,MAX,time+i) end But I'm sure you could be more imaginative than that :) > Though I do have a arexx guide around somewhere. These library do come with docs, you know :) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17383 2^28 blocks done -- Real programmers scorn floating point arithmetic. The decimal point was invented for pansy bed-wetters who are unable to think big. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From BOURMAPH@e-i.com Tue Feb 23 10:02:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1514-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 09:00:56 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:00:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:00:56 0000 Received: (qmail 26441 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 09:00:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 26429 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 09:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO athena.e-i.net) (193.57.116.130) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 09:00:54 -0000 Received: from sinet.e-i.net by athena.e-i.net (8.8.5/SMI-SVR4) id JAA85356; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:00:29 GMT Received: by sowa.e-i.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <19PFFSRQ>; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: BOURMAULT Philippe To: Just-Amiga Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:02:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DBM From: BOURMAULT Philippe DBM means DigiBooster Module ... You can download the DigiBooster program on aminet, it's a new multivoice tracker using AHI. You can't save your modules/samples unless you register to this program but to hear DBM modules, it's perfect. You can also find some players for delitracker/eagleplayer/... Hope that'll help you. Flip > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Marco B. [SMTP:_caronte_@iol.it] > Date: mardi 23 février 1999 03:59 > À: AmiChat > Cc: Just-Amiga; UKAmiga; Amisite > Objet: [just-amiga] DBM > > From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> > > Hy EV1, > > there are a lot of Acid Music in Aminet > in DBM format. > > I have some players but no one play this format. > > What can i do to hear they? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New hobbies? New interests? Sign up for a new ONElist community. > http://www.onelist.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From 95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk Tue Feb 23 10:07:21 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1515-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 14:06:13 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:06:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:06:12 0000 Received: (qmail 32359 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 13:57:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 32331 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 13:57:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.rmplc.co.uk) (194.154.16.99) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 13:57:41 -0000 Received: from mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk ([194.238.118.130]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA23993 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:06:05 GMT Received: from [194.238.118.161] by mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id xa025997 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:37:24 +0000 From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> To: Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:37:21 +0430 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Message-Id: <13372470300423@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] UAE Help From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> Can anyone help me load some Amiga CD stuff on a PeeCee. I have installed UAE, and all I get when I boot is the OS3.1 disk insert screen! Lee Hesselden ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with us your stories. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Mon Feb 22 04:36:30 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1516-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 16:27:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:27:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.225] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:27:12 0000 Received: (qmail 14183 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 16:33:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14142 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 16:33:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 16:33:51 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem014.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.114]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id RAA23300 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:26:38 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 04:36:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hello Stephen Am 19-Feb-99 schrieb Stephen Williams: > From: Stephen Williams > > Matthew O'Neill wrote: >> I believe that you have to rename the wad to get it to work. I got the >> doom2 wad, but had to rename it to get it to work. I called it DOOMu.WAD >> and now it works, but unfortunately it won't let me use other shareware >> wads!! :( > > The Linux Doom engine (from which all Amiga ports were done) expects > the Doom 2 .WAD to be called "doom2.wad". The Ultimate Doom .WAD > should be "doomu.wad". I have the Depths of Doom trilogy CD set; the > Doom 2 CD has "doom2.wad" and that works fine for me with DoomAttack. > The Ultimate Doom CD has the Ultimate Doom .WAD named "doom.wad", > which is wrong (works for the PC version though); I solved the prob by > making a symlink on my hard drive: > > makelink soft doomu.wad cd0:doom.wad > > Basically, passing this symlink to DoomAttack as the name of the .WAD > file makes the engine think that "cd0:doom.wad" is actually a file on > my hard drive called "doomu.wad", and everything works. As I read a comments of both of you, I organized myself an registered doom2.wad and everything works (it really depends of the different file names). Last (and perhaps a bit stupid) question: is there any speed difference between useing doom1 and doom2 files, beside the loading times ?? Regards -- ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Feb 23 22:06:37 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1517-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 21:08:47 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:08:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:08:46 0000 Received: (qmail 1015 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 22:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 847 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 22:11:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 22:11:53 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max09-025.enterprise.net [194.72.199.25]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08967 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:08:29 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:06:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13372470300423@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE Help From: Andrew Crowe Hi 95LHSC > Can anyone help me load some Amiga CD stuff on a PeeCee. I have installed > UAE, and all I get when I boot is the OS3.1 disk insert screen! Ok, as far as I know you cant use stuff on CD with the emulator. You have to make a self booting disk on a real amiga, then make a disk file with ADFblitzer. Then copy it to a PC disk (by zipping it etc.) and then you can load it into the emulator. Also, for a fully kitted out workbench for UAE, go to http://www.classicgaming.com/aiab/ See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - I did *not* have a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, but I'll admit this, I /did/ splash out on a new dress. -- Bill Clinton ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New interests? Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Tue Feb 23 21:18:10 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1518-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 21:33:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:33:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:33:43 0000 Received: (qmail 22563 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 21:34:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22452 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 21:34:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 21:34:31 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.246] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10FPPu-0005f1-00; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:31:02 +0000 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:18:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE Help From: Paul Ferguson Hi Andrew, On 23-Feb-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Also, for a fully kitted out workbench for UAE, go to > http://www.classicgaming.com/aiab/ Better still see if you can track down an older verion of AIAB and not the 2000 version...this one is slightly crippled in the fact that you need the 3.1 disks to run it (IIRC) Older versions had the required files distributed in the archive Possible Piracy flaming material ? Cheers, -- *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 Drive A: format failure, formatting C: instead... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Tue Feb 23 22:59:03 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1519-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Feb 23 21:59:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:59:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.213] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:59:47 0000 Received: (qmail 15800 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 1999 21:52:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15783 invoked from network); 23 Feb 1999 21:52:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 1999 21:52:09 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.252] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10FPpL-0005sA-00; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:57:15 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Stephen Williams Sven Dröge wrote: > As I read a comments of both of you, I organized myself an registered > doom2.wad > and everything works (it really depends of the different file names). > Last (and perhaps a bit stupid) question: is there any speed difference > between useing doom1 and doom2 files, beside the loading times ?? You might notice a slight drop in framerate with some Doom 2 levels. This is just due to the fact that a lot of Doom 2 levels are more complicated than Doom levels. If you find file access a bit slow, try adding a couple of hundred extra cache buffers to the hard drive partition with your .WADs on. -- +--<><--- Stephen Williams -- sw@nysa.u-net.com -- sw@fysh.org ---<><--+ +------- Amiga Technologies A1200HD 030/50 882/50 16Mb fastram --------+ +------------------- Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A 128Kb -------------------+ +------- Why not visit my homepage? http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ -------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 24 03:49:50 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1520-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 03:54:19 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:54:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:54:19 0000 Received: (qmail 17930 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 04:00:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17621 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 04:00:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 04:00:46 -0000 Received: from modem-74.lead.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.40.202] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=disaintcool) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10FVOd-0003ny-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:54:03 +0000 From: Loki To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:49:50 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! From: Loki Hello, Anyone know how to get onto Yahoo Chat with a Miggy Browser? I can`t get on with any of em, someone said you need a plugin on the PC to use Yahoo Chat?????? I know Yahoo is naff, but I`m just wondering, Any ideas? Cya! -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ ICQ: 27181384 *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From joncombe@yahoo.com Wed Feb 24 13:41:08 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1521-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 12:40:15 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:40:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.227] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:40:14 0000 Received: (qmail 9623 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 12:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9599 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 12:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO send104.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.122) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 12:46:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990224124108.1846.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.83.240.16] by send104.yahoomail.com; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 04:41:08 PST Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 04:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Combe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! From: Jonathan Combe ---Loki wrote: > > From: Loki > > Hello, > > Anyone know how to get onto Yahoo Chat with a Miggy Browser? > I can`t get on with any of em, someone said you need a plugin on the > PC to use Yahoo Chat?????? > > I know Yahoo is naff, but I`m just wondering, Any ideas? > > Cya! > -- > > *CONTACTING ME:* > E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk > WWW: http://www.napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk/ > ICQ: 27181384 > > *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* > ADMIN: admin@satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk > AMINET: SDPackN.lha (docs/misc) > WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ > IRC: Dalnet/#SatanicDreams > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* > There is a Java version available which (obviosuly) requires a Java capable browser. 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Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Mon Aug 10 04:45:14 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1522-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 15:57:43 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:57:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:57:42 0000 Received: (qmail 25210 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 17:00:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25184 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 17:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 17:00:12 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem029.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.129]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id QAA05234 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:57:13 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hello Stephen Am 23-Feb-99 schrieb Stephen Williams: > From: Stephen Williams > > If you find file access a bit slow, try adding a couple of hundred > extra cache buffers to the hard drive partition with your .WADs on. I've alreay done this like: addbuffers dh1: 2500 So what about the highest level that makes sence ? Regards, Pearl ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New interests? Sign up for a new ONElist community. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Mon Aug 10 05:31:37 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1523-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 15:58:01 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:58:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:58:00 0000 Received: (qmail 25781 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 17:00:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 25774 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 17:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 17:00:32 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem029.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.129]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id QAA05271 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:57:28 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 05:31:37 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] screen from shell ? From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= For my installed unix-port I would likely do the following: - open a screen from shell - open a new shell on that screen - after using this a while, close all Is that possible ?? And if it is, how ??? Regards, Sven ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Feb 24 13:57:48 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1524-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 18:12:09 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:12:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:12:09 0000 Received: (qmail 22995 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 18:12:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22803 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 18:12:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 18:12:22 -0000 Received: from du-026-0227.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-026-0227.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.227]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18501 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:05:47 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 24 Feb 99 12:57:48 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: Loki In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <882.724T2405T7772861@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 24-Feb-99 02:49:50, Loki wrote: >Hello, > Anyone know how to get onto Yahoo Chat with a Miggy Browser? >I can`t get on with any of em, someone said you need a plugin on the >PC to use Yahoo Chat?????? >I know Yahoo is naff, but I`m just wondering, Any ideas? Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me. It sucks when it works and it sucks when it doesn't. Working seems to depends on the orientation of the planets, phase of the moon, how you sit in your chair, whether or not you're an odd number of hops to their server and the mood of the support staff :) Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17496 2^28 blocks done -- There is always one item on the screen menu that is mislabeled and should read "ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! See our new web site. http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 24 19:17:18 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1525-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 19:27:35 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:35 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:35 0000 Received: (qmail 8456 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 19:27:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8400 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 19:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 19:27:51 -0000 Received: from modem-113.radon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.241] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Fjxi-0001Zy-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:14 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Sven On 10-Aug-98, you wrote: >> If you find file access a bit slow, try adding a couple of hundred >> extra cache buffers to the hard drive partition with your .WADs on. > I've alreay done this like: addbuffers dh1: 2500 > So what about the highest level that makes sence ? 2500, I hope that was a mis-type. 300 is about the highest level that will make any noticeable difference. Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed Feb 24 19:19:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1526-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Feb 24 19:27:36 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:36 0000 Received: (qmail 6412 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 1999 19:28:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6259 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 19:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 19:28:06 -0000 Received: from modem-113.radon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.241] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Fjxk-0001Zy-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:27:17 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:19:44 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <882.724T2405T7772861@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Thomas On 24-Feb-99, you wrote: >> I know Yahoo is naff, but I`m just wondering, Any ideas? > Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me. It sucks when it works > and it sucks when it doesn't. Working seems to depends on the orientation > of the planets, phase of the moon, how you sit in your chair, whether or > not you're an odd number of hops to their server and the mood of the > support staff :) 2 choices, 1) read through what you said and change it to make sense 2) get flamed for the next few weeks Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you seen our new web site? http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Feb 25 01:24:02 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1527-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 00:46:25 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:46:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:46:25 0000 Received: (qmail 29716 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 00:46:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28837 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 00:46:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 00:46:16 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-7.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.10]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22939 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:45:36 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:24:02 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: ADoom ? From: Colin Wenzel On 10-Aug-98, Sven Dröge wrote: >From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= >Hello Stephen >Am 23-Feb-99 schrieb Stephen Williams: >> From: Stephen Williams >> If you find file access a bit slow, try adding a couple of hundred >> extra cache buffers to the hard drive partition with your .WADs on. >I've alreay done this like: addbuffers dh1: 2500 >So what about the highest level that makes sence ? >Regards, >Pearl It figures out at 512 bytes / buffer, I use 2000 buffers on SCSI drive partitions, which equates to about a meg / partition. It seems to make little (if no ) difference to IDE drives, HOWEVER, SCSI drives absolutely fly with a heap of buffers. You will really notice it when using Shapeshifter with a Hardfile on a SCSI drive. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Thu Feb 25 00:01:45 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1529-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 10:10:24 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:10:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:10:23 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) id QQgebc16003 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6354 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 07:15:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 6344 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 07:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 07:15:12 -0000 Received: from du-026-0444.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-026-0444.claranet.co.uk [195.8.90.190]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14910 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:07:52 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 24 Feb 99 23:01:45 +0000 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Matthew O'Neill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1067.724T2283T13812455@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 24-Feb-99 18:19:44, Matthew O'Neill wrote: >From: Matthew O'Neill >Hi Thomas >On 24-Feb-99, you wrote: [Yahoo Chat] >>> I know Yahoo is naff, but I`m just wondering, Any ideas? >> Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me. It sucks when it >> works and it sucks when it doesn't. Working seems to depends on the >> orientation of the planets, phase of the moon, how you sit in your chair, >> whether or not you're an odd number of hops to their server and the >> mood of the support staff :) >2 choices, >1) read through what you said and change it to make sense Engage brain -> Reread what I wrote. For those without said brain: Yahoo chat sucks. Simple enough for you? >2) get flamed for the next few weeks By who? You? I'm really quivering in my boots. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 17539 2^28 blocks done -- PATH=C:\DOS;C:\DOS\RUN;C:\WIN\CRASH\DOS;C:\ME\DEL\WIN;C:\ME\USE\LINUX ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited our new web site? http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Thu Feb 25 05:04:54 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1528-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 11:20:52 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:20:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:20:52 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) id QQgeaq11928 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15116 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 04:06:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14690 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 04:06:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fatman.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 04:06:38 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912495.acay.com.au [203.19.124.95]) by fatman.acay.com.au (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04800 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:25:04 +1100 Message-ID: <36D4CBE6.1C9C6D88@acay.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:04:54 +1100 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <917741953.23747@onelist.com> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Livewire From: Frank Bunton Does anyone down south of the equator (e.g. Aussie or Kiwi) know what has happened to:- http://www.livewire.com.au where the Aminet mirror is kept? I was away for a week or so and when I got bacvk I could not get any response from it. -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Fostering connections and information exchange ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From _caronte_@iol.it Wed Feb 24 17:59:08 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1530-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 11:26:48 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:26:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:26:48 0000 Received: (qmail 16103 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 11:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16098 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 11:27:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.iol.it) (195.210.91.150) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 11:27:09 -0000 Received: from iol.it ([151.13.74.240]) by mta2.iol.it (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAB37B1 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:26:21 +0100 From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:59:08 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE Help From: Marco B. <_caronte_@iol.it> On 23-Feb-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >From: Andrew Crowe >Also, for a fully kitted out workbench for UAE, go to > http://www.classicgaming.com/aiab/ Hy EV1, what is AIAB ? Is an emulator Amiga for PC?? The files in the site upper are loadable on Amiga?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? http://www.onelist.com Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Feb 25 13:25:44 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1531-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 12:35:18 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:35:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.205] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:35:18 0000 Received: (qmail 24333 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 12:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 24327 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 12:34:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 12:34:57 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-9.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.12]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05175 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:34:45 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Frank Bunton Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:25:44 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36D4CBE6.1C9C6D88@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Livewire From: Colin Wenzel On 25-Feb-99, Frank Bunton wrote: >From: Frank Bunton >Does anyone down south of the equator (e.g. Aussie or Kiwi) know what >has happened to:- > http://www.livewire.com.au >where the Aminet mirror is kept? >I was away for a week or so and when I got bacvk I could not get any >response from it. >------------------------------------------------ I'm just north of Brisbane, the mirror is there, it has been down for me too for some time.... I'll see if I can find out whats happening. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come check out our brand new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Making the Internet intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Feb 25 18:20:15 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1532-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 16:20:44 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:20:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:20:41 0000 Received: (qmail 8054 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 16:20:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8000 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 16:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 16:20:49 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03161 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc2-7.digital.net [204.215.229.7]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA21444 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:20:17 -0500 (EST) From: ken To: amiga stuff Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] textra From: ken I've already been to aminet. Awhile back Mike Haas released Textra as freeware removing that 2-3 minute delay screen. The only version I can find is 2.14 This was his last shareware release.. Had a hd crash and lost everyhting.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lacoste@home.se Thu Feb 25 18:18:13 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1533-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Feb 25 17:19:29 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:19:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.209] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:19:28 0000 Received: (qmail 17009 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 17:19:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 16898 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 17:18:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.home.se) (194.52.202.65) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 17:18:57 -0000 Received: from home.se (dialup156-4-51.swipnet.se [130.244.156.243]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA04406 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:18:55 +0100 (CET) From: lACOSTE! To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] tooltypes.library From: lACOSTE! Hello folks. Anyone have or know where i can find tooltypes.library? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Fostering connections and information exchange ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sven.droege@UniBw-Hamburg.DE Mon Aug 10 04:59:31 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--1538-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 26 11:46:26 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:46:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.211] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:46:26 0000 Received: (qmail 24462 invoked by alias); 26 Feb 1999 11:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24438 invoked from network); 26 Feb 1999 11:47:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de) (139.11.130.52) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 1999 11:47:53 -0000 Received: from unibw-hamburg.de (modem003.unibw-hamburg.de [139.11.105.103]) by rzsparc-3.unibw-hamburg.de (UniBwH-Mail/2.2) with SMTP id MAA23531 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:45:42 +0100 (MET) From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] screen from shell ? From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= Hallo, *** Weitergeleitete Nachricht, ursprünglich von Sven Dröge am 10-Aug-98 *** *** SORRY FOR MY BROKEN BATTERY CLOCK *** For my installed unix-port I would likely do the following: - open a screen from shell - open a new shell on that screen - after using this a while, close all Is that possible ?? And if it is, how ??? Regards, Sven ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* *** Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht *** Mit freundlichen Grüssen -- ____________________________________________ A4000 - tiny desktop 68040/25Mhz ° 2C . 16F ° 1GB IDE PicassoIV ° lotsa stuff eMail : Sven.Droege@UniBW-Hamburg.de +++ If you just follow someone's footsteps, +++ +++ you will never pass him. +++ ____________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? http://www.onelist.com Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Feb 25 22:41:28 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1536-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 26 13:07:51 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:07:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:07:50 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) id QQgedl23672 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15177 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 22:27:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15167 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 22:27:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 22:27:49 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-021.enterprise.net [194.72.195.21]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16149 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:26:13 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:41:28 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UAE Help From: Andrew Crowe Hi Marco > >> Also, for a fully kitted out workbench for UAE, go to > >> http://www.classicgaming.com/aiab/ > > Hy EV1, > what is AIAB ? > Is an emulator Amiga for PC?? > The files in the site upper are loadable on Amiga?? Basically its a fully installed copy of WinUAE with all of workbench and the P96 gfx drivers installed. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Its the same room but everythings different, you can find the sleep but not the dream... -- Crowded House ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? http://www.onelist.com Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Fri Feb 26 00:02:04 1999 >From bounce-just-amiga--1537-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Feb 26 13:34:12 1999 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:34:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:34:11 0000 Received: from onelist.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) id QQgedo08507 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20883 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 1999 23:01:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20876 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1999 23:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 1999 23:01:36 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.163] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10G9kb-00007M-00; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:59:26 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:02:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Cu Amiga - Cinema 4D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay7.UU.NET id QQgedo08507 From: Stephen Williams Sergio Maiandi wrote: > As you probably know on the last CU Amiga CD there was the full > version of the 3d rendering prog Cinema 4D >=20 > Unfortunately after the installation i'm asked for a serial code, > which is not written in any part of the cd or of the magazine Email Hisoft and ask them for it. Be prepared to ask for proof that you bought the magazine (e.g. they might give you a page number and ask you what was on that page), as I heard some people pirated it and asked Hisoft for the serial code anyway! Geez, the magazine cost =A35.99, and these llamas still copied it. Cheap or what... :-/ --=20 +--<><--- Stephen Williams -- sw@nysa.u-net.com -- sw@fysh.org ---<><--+ +------- Amiga Technologies A1200HD 030/50 882/50 16Mb fastram --------+ +------------------- Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A 128Kb -------------------+ +------- Why not visit my homepage? http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ -------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? 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