These are all the messages posted to the JUST-AMiGA mailing list in AUGUST 1999. Signed. Chris Seward JUST-AMiGA Moderator and Editor of Amiga Information Online For help or more information email :- chris@aio.co.uk or read JOIN-JA.txt that came with this archive for details on joining this mailing list! ************** HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK ************** From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sun Aug 01 00:48:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28906 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:51:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 5505 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 00:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5500 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 00:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.65.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 00:50:39 -0000 Received: from [148.176.236.100] (helo=amiga ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Ajp6-00038b-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:49:56 +0100 From: Richard Lane To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 01:48:43 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga"; dob=21031963 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga video buffs read on... X-UIDL: 4a260086f1efc1e4e46ca6852e8ad4dc From: Richard Lane Hello Chris On 31-Jul-99, Chris Seward wrote: > > Amiga is looking for a video trailer for WB3.5. In this competition you > can win 3 Amiga 1200 HDD Magic Packs and 25 copies of the new OS3.5. Much as I like the thought of O/S 3.5, why would I want with 25 copies of it. :)))) > All you need to do is produce a trailier animation using only Amiga > software, which lasts about 30 seconds. The deadline for entries is > October 15th 1999. Send any trailers in a jiffy bag named 'Trailer > Competition' to, Funny how this appeared in a PC mag (Computer Shopper) I'd not heard about this before, either that or I'd missed it. The news section in this mag about the Amiga is good, though old, even by Amiga Format standards. I often buy computer shopper as it's good to keep up with what's happening on other platforms. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* -- Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Sun Aug 01 06:49:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA30711 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 06:51:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 10696 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 06:50:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 10690 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 06:50:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 06:50:00 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912483.acay.com.au [203.19.124.83]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13716 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:52:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <37A3EE0C.7B76E61B@acay.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:49:48 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: 85ac25364f5ff8ff2a70ad131c416cc9 From: Frank Bunton Chris Seward wrote: > > Sorry to dissapoint you, but the amiga clock only goes from 1978-2077! > > My clock goes from 1991-2099 so ner ner :P Mine too :-) -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Sun Aug 01 07:25:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA30904 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:27:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 18346 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 07:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18328 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 07:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 07:25:48 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (usr2-ppp7.tranquility.net [206.156.230.162]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA02186 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 02:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37A3F671.C0DFDF2A@tranquility.net> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:25:38 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <37A3EE0C.7B76E61B@acay.com.au> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: 54bb90af5722a0ed99a4ec444ac4bcf8 From: Jim Mackoy Check the amiga.com website on Y2K. There are 2 or 3 aspects of Amiga subject to different problems. Mostly pretty minor. but we are not immune. BTW- since the problems come from various portions of the Amiga, they do involve different dates. Jim Frank Bunton wrote: > From: Frank Bunton > > Chris Seward wrote: > > > > Sorry to dissapoint you, but the amiga clock only goes from 1978-2077! > > > > My clock goes from 1991-2099 so ner ner :P > > Mine too :-) > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > From:- Frank Bunton > E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au > Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton > HOME OF: > AmigaDOS For Beginners > ARexx For Beginners > How To Write AmigaGuide Docs > > Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 > Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 > > Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide > http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html > ------------------------------------------------ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! > If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. 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For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Aug 01 09:37:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA31341 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:39:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 2804 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 08:37:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2797 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 08:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 08:37:57 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-005.enterprise.net [194.72.195.5]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19625 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:37:57 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 09:37:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37A3F671.C0DFDF2A@tranquility.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: 793c76bd5c6507e2a7403d0bf1654a24 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >>>> Sorry to dissapoint you, but the amiga clock only goes from 1978-2077! >>> >>> My clock goes from 1991-2099 so ner ner :P >> >> Mine too :-) Are you sure it /keeps/ it when you turn it off? I can set mine to 2099, it even goes over to 2100 fine, but when I turn my amiga off it sets it back 100 years. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 01 09:15:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA31619 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:19:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 5515 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 09:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5509 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 09:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 09:17:19 -0000 Received: from modem-122.hafnium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.35.250] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Arjw-0008Oq-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:17:08 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 10:15:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Off-topic! Transmeta (fwd) X-UIDL: 9878969dc072fa0c1aafa44dbf8862e8 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Kenneth On 31-Jul-99, you wrote: > Don't get too excited. Read this post from Don Hicks (Amazing > Computing) on csam: > http://www.amisite.freeamiga.org/news/19990729-trans.html > > Kenneth Even if they didn't confirm it, Transmeta's still the best fit for the clues given so far; great emulation ability, top secret, Linus Torvalds works there etc. Of course, the last only became important after that wee Linux announcement a couple of weeks ago. Regards, Sandy Brownlee ------------------------------ WinUAE: If you can't beat 'em, emulate 'em! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From SnorsleX@Home.se Sun Aug 01 10:46:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA31904 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:48:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 13371 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 09:46:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 13363 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 09:46:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 09:46:16 -0000 Received: from home.se (SnorsleX@md4690cde.utfors.se [212.105.12.222]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04723 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:46:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Lorens Johansson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 11:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: ba6abc60c5ec0719ccb0495b62604a55 From: Lorens Johansson Hi Andrew... >>>>> Sorry to dissapoint you, but the amiga clock only goes from 1978-2077! >>>> >>>> My clock goes from 1991-2099 so ner ner :P >>> >>> Mine too :-) > > Are you sure it /keeps/ it when you turn it off? I can set mine to > 2099, it even goes over to 2100 fine, but when I turn my amiga off it sets > it back 100 years. That should be just like that... over 78 then it's 19xx!! So... /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 Coders, the only men in the world who brag their's is smaller and faster :) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations DALMATIANRESCUE. Our latest ONElist of the week. To see full story and submit YOUR ONElist story, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/ootw_19.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 01 09:48:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA31934 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:50:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 12346 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 09:48:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12338 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 09:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 09:48:39 -0000 Received: from modem-122.hafnium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.35.250] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AsEY-0002xB-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:48:47 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 10:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: 50f8af1b90108ad7dc4d5d18248c243b From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Andrew On 01-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >>>>> Sorry to dissapoint you, but the amiga clock only goes from 1978-2077! >>>> >>>> My clock goes from 1991-2099 so ner ner :P >>> >>> Mine too :-) > > Are you sure it /keeps/ it when you turn it off? I can set mine to > 2099, it even goes over to 2100 fine, but when I turn my amiga off it sets > it back 100 years. That's because (I think) the Amiga clock does store it's years in two- digit form, only instead of just putting a 19 in front, like on PCs, if it is lower than 78, it attaches a 20. Hence the Amiga clock should cover 1979- 2078, but there are other issues; which, as Jim Mackoy points out, are highlighted at www.amiga.com. Regards, Sandy Brownlee ----------------------------------- Scott- "Dad, if you've got a time machine, why don't you just go back and kill him when he's helpless... On the crapper or something?" 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For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mike@mikech.demon.co.uk Sun Aug 01 12:30:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00318 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:38:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 13436 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 12:37:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13430 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 12:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 12:36:59 -0000 Received: from mikech.demon.co.uk ([158.152.215.4]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Aur0-0002pJ-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:36:39 +0000 From: Mike To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 13:30:45 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Busy serial device X-UIDL: 01ede57871d8781ab3b88ded5bb55612 From: Mike On 30-Jul-99, Linus Akesson wrote: > From: Linus Akesson > > In accordance with the prophecy, Mike uttered: >> Is there any way other than rebooting to reset the serial.device? (its the >> original wb one). Just thought I'd ask, having just done this a minute ago >> for the n millionth time... > Use a system monitor (such as ARTM), bring up the device list, look up > serial.device. It should have an OpenCount of 1, select it and choose Close. > This works in ARTM, I'm not sure about other monitor programs. It's a bit of > a hack though. > > Linus Thanks Linus, I guess the moral is don't forget to plug your modem in! Still I might have a look at your suggestion for interest, ta! Mike Child --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jul 31 13:14:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01737 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:18:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 15569 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 16:16:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15554 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 16:16:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 16:16:35 -0000 Received: from modem-121.regranex.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.86.121] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AyI6-0001dR-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:16:51 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 31 Jul 99 14:03:51 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) Message-ID: <37a34cdf@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 31 Jul 99 13:14:29 GMT In-Reply-To: Organization: Zeus Developments - The Killing Ground BBS X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6 (13.11.95) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: b8a39715fc6538b3156e9863482ce66b From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Saturday July 31 1999, Chris Seward said to All: CS> So we are not worried. But what happends when 2099 at 23:59.59 CS> comes? the Amiga clock only goes to 2099 :)))? so for the lucky ones CS> amoung us who will live til about 120 and still using a classic Amiga CS> what happends :)? anyone? The clock prefs program will allow you to go upto 2099, but most programs will loop back to 1978 in 2038 (or 2048 - I can't remember). I can give a technical explanation if you want :) -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Jul 31 13:23:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01741 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:18:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 6957 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 16:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 6950 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 16:17:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 16:17:27 -0000 Received: from modem-121.regranex.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.86.121] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AyID-0001dR-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:16:57 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 31 Jul 99 14:03:52 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) Message-ID: <37a34db9@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 31 Jul 99 13:23:32 GMT In-Reply-To: <001a01bedaf2$89a3b260$010aa8c0@sluggo.win95sux2.com> Organization: Zeus Developments - The Killing Ground BBS X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6 (13.11.95) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Windows... lame! X-UIDL: 521f2ccec17ebffb1dbeff7b955642d1 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Friday July 30 1999, Stephen C. Rigler said to All: SCR> In the interest of making this thread more productive, how would a SCR> "secure" screensaver work on the Amiga? Obviously it would have to SCR> be something that you wouldn't be able to hit LeftAmiga+N to SCR> bypass... Any ideas? Commodore-Amiga wrote a secure screen saver. It does block screen depth changes and other stuff.. I think it was created around the OS2 time, so I don't know how good it would be with blocking hot-keys though. -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 01 13:42:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01748 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:19:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 31546 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 16:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 31532 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 16:17:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 16:17:16 -0000 Received: from modem-121.regranex.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.86.121] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AyIW-0001dR-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:17:16 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sun, 1 Aug 99 13:48:08 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) Message-ID: <37a4a446@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 01 Aug 99 13:42:59 GMT In-Reply-To: Organization: Zeus Developments - The Killing Ground BBS X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6 (13.11.95) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Y2k problem not our only one! X-UIDL: b4b7735f0dc9e553f6538b607e025679 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Sunday August 01 1999, Sandy Brownlee said to All: SB> That's because (I think) the Amiga clock does store it's years in SB> two- digit form, only instead of just putting a 19 in front, like on SB> PCs, if it is SB> lower than 78, it attaches a 20. Hence the Amiga clock should cover SB> 1979- 2078, but there are other issues; which, as Jim Mackoy points SB> out, are SB> highlighted at www.amiga.com. The Amiga doesn't store dates as ASCII figures. It uses a variety of methods depending on where you peek: some will be okay for 65000 years, but others (like the main method of storing time) will run out around somewhere around 2050. -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andreone@wantree.com.au Sun Aug 01 16:49:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02358 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:42:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 22103 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 17:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22087 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 17:40:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mule.wantree.com.au) (203.27.235.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 17:40:43 -0000 Received: from wantree.com.au (p56B-151.wantree.com.au [203.12.222.151]) by mule.wantree.com.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA20439 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:40:57 +0800 From: Andre Wittkamp To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 00:49:29 +0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Jim, said so! X-UIDL: 98e32962b18b9e60d68f0dd6dc8e1a2e From: Andre Wittkamp Hello Everyone, I just e-mailed 'Jim VonHolle' who, for the less informed, is the man who will be Marketing the Next Generation Amiga, if anyone is intereseted to hear what he had to say about Marketing and PR then please read the following question and answer. I for one am now even more confident than ever about the Amiga's comeback! The best product (regardless of OS) + best wishes + wishful thinking, will not sell the Amiga. Good Marketing will. A good Marketing campaign will sell just about anything eg. Windows 95, Windows 98, Bottled water, pet rocks, etc! ================================================================================================ On 31-Jul-99, VonHolle, Jim wrote: >You are right on target and a hugely effective PR campaign is very much in >our strategy and plans to get noticed as we come back. >We can't outspend the current established power base but if you look at the >successes in recent past, small companies do make the headlines via >effective PR. Look at Netscape, Yahoo, AOL - all small companies who got >noticed and grew up under the noses of the large powers. We will too!. ================================================================================================ >-----Original Message----- >From: Andre Wittkamp [mailto:andreone@wantree.com.au] >Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:02 PM >To: Jim.VonHolle@amiga.com >Subject: This is going to be tough! >Dear Jim, >I have some food for thought! Firstly, though let me introduce myself, my >name >is Andre Wittkamp and I am 21 years old, I live in Perth, Australia (I also >have a degree in Marketing). "PLEASE READ ON, I assure you I don't intend >to >be a just-out-of-uni smart ass by >thinking that I can tell you things that you don't already know. I simply >wish to express my >thoughts and perhaps 'steer' your attention to where I see Amiga needs to >act. >Honestly I must say I don't envy your 'Marketing' title, you have everything >against you and only few things for you. Obviously Amiga, even with >Gateway's >backing cannot afford to match >the marketing might of the various IBM compatable companies. You must >remember that I am in the frame of mind that the Next generation of Amiga >will >be a technological breakthrough, at a reasonable price and that a market >exists for this breakthrough. Although I am sure that Gateway would have >made >certain of this before they purchased Amiga even if they only purchased >Amiga >as a 'wildcard' in the computer world (companies this big and successful >obviously don't get to be where they are by a series of bad decisions). >Ok, I'll get to the point, Amiga is product rich but money poor. And >current >research has shown that a good indicator of the market size of a company is >their 'share of voice' in advertising >and this paints a bad picture for the new product scenario, the new kid on >the >block, must outwiegh the share of voice of the established companies to even >get noticed ; not to mention to make up for the established company's >goodwill. The only way Amiga can hope to match the might of it's >competitors >is to invest HEAVILY in public relations, I can not stress this point more. >I >realise that the 'sensible' and conservative person would say "No thats too >risky, lets simply use the small amount of money that we have and advertise >in >the markets that have perviously proven most profitable for the amiga >(namely >England, Germany and most of Europe)." Should such an approach be taken >then >ultimately this will lead to failure, due to sub standard advertising, lack >of >clients, and lack of emotion. >Remember if you will 'the' one famous advertisement, played at the superbowl >that put Apple in minds and in the hearts of thousands of people. >Remember >that although only officially played once (and almost cancelled) it was >played >over and mentioned dozens of times, in thousands of places around the globe >by >the press, tv media, and most importantly by the people that watched the ad. >I know what your thinking, but this was a relatively unplanned occurance, >that >paid off it was not an elaborate PR campaign. My point is that it could >have >so easily been a PR campaign. You just need news worthy news (The next >generation of computer technology) and a capable PR co-ordinator. PR >campaigns are cheap in terms of what they achieve and have unlimited dollar >potential (how much would it have cost Apple to get the air time for that >one >ad if they had to pay for it?) however the professionals that are capable in >making this happen are expensive, but if correctly guided, can single >handedly >make the name Amiga mean something positive to more people than it ever has >before. >Amiga has several main advantages that the PR campaign would need to expand >upon. >1) It is the under-dog and people love to see the under-dog or Rocky-type >character win. >2) The Amiga's pioneering past! >3) The IBM compatibles are virus plauged, have year 2000 problems, cost an >arm >and a leg to > upgrade, and are constantly being upgraded, and are not user friendly. >(not to mention the > current technology is primarily governed by a person (Bill Gates) who >could >so easily be > portrayed as a money hungry, monopolistic, megalomaniac who is holding >the >world back in > terms of realising the computer's full potential and benefit to mankind!) > >Please do not under-estimate the power of Public Relations, we all know the >4 >P's of marketing Public Relations should be the fifth P. >Thank you for listening to my thoughts. Your feedack is eagerly >anticipated. >Contact me at : >AndreONE@wantree.com.au >.oO ANDRE Oo. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Sun Aug 01 17:45:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02386 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:47:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 8179 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 17:45:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 7895 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 17:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 17:44:59 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (usr2-ppp34.tranquility.net [206.156.230.189]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14257 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:45:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37A487AA.8079B824@tranquility.net> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:45:14 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Off-topic! Transmeta (fwd) X-UIDL: 61ea067d2d2684fcb8dac0dae26c1efc From: Jim Mackoy Didn't I see mention at one point that there might be multiple processors in the different boxes? For the set-top box one of the Japanese Mips chips might be a good fit. If its all Java it doesn't make much difference what the engine is. For the top end, the Transmeta (whatever it turns out to be) might be great, but there could be a multitude of chips that could do the job for the different boxes. Arm, PPC, Mips, and Fujitsu's new VLIW chip. Jim Sandy Brownlee wrote: > From: Sandy Brownlee > > Hello Kenneth > > On 31-Jul-99, you wrote: > > > > > Don't get too excited. Read this post from Don Hicks (Amazing > > Computing) on csam: > > http://www.amisite.freeamiga.org/news/19990729-trans.html > > > > Kenneth > > Even if they didn't confirm it, Transmeta's still the best fit for the clues > given so far; great emulation ability, top secret, Linus Torvalds works > there etc. > > Of course, the last only became important after that wee Linux announcement > a couple of weeks ago. > > Regards, > > Sandy Brownlee > > ------------------------------ > > WinUAE: If you can't beat 'em, emulate 'em! > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? > http://www.onelist.com > Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to MICHELLE UNSER This week’s FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 01 18:28:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02749 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:30:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 416 invoked by alias); 1 Aug 1999 18:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 411 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 18:29:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 18:29:02 -0000 Received: from modem-121.amoxicillin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.121] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11B0LU-0006lH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:28:28 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:28:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Jim, said so! X-UIDL: 921b12b1b1e0053ae4c3b1637955b090 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Andre On 01-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Andre Wittkamp > > Hello Everyone, > > The best product (regardless of OS) + best wishes + wishful thinking, will > not sell the Amiga. Good Marketing will. A good Marketing campaign will > sell just about anything eg. Windows 95, Windows 98, Bottled water, pet > rocks, etc! I agree. A group of pupils at our school sold rock last year, and made quite a tidy profit, too. Most of this was to do with their ad campaigns- putting notes on every blackboard in the building, shouting about it whenever they could... If they could sell rocks, I'm sure that a computer revolution won't be hard to push! Regards, Sandy Brownlee ------------------------------------ "DOCTOR Evil. I didn't spent 5 years at evil university to be called MISTER!" -Dr. Evil, in the original Austin Powers. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From brotheramiga@takas.lt Mon Aug 02 11:50:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11346 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:28:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 22746 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 11:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 22722 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 11:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srvr3.telecom.lt) (212.59.0.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 11:26:32 -0000 Received: from takas.lt (user@dialup29.vln.takas.lt [212.59.0.93]) by srvr3.telecom.lt (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA12293 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:26:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Vytautas To: konferencija just AMMY Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:50:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; street="Taikos 49-1"; city="Vilnius"; country="Lithuania"; phone="8-22-476957" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] more about FIDO X-UIDL: 5389fd667361916b982a09bf82219b64 From: Vytautas Hello, FIDO GURUS I'm confused I have Spot, nice Telnet program ;) and Trapdor. What must I do now to get FIDO access.I would be greatfull for step by step instructions :) Kind regards, Vytas -- "Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit OS originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition." Mailed from AMIGA OS3.1 WB3.1 with YetAnotherMailer Freeware --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Mon Aug 02 16:40:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16408 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:16:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 5431 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 17:14:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 5345 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 17:14:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 17:14:53 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.132.141] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2341420114; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:15:32 +0100 From: roger buckley To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 17:40:42 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] No SIMMpathy X-UIDL: 4ae4746caf2861b95b1449abc1313f8d From: roger buckley Hi everybody A while ago I asked for help with my 'iffy' 16MB simm due to crashing regularly and usually invalidating hard drive partitions etc. Since then I have re-installed my 8MB simm which has always been perfectly behaved. Today I decided to have a try at the Napalm Demo for which I had to use the 16MB simm. It behaved beautifully, only crashing once in four hours using it with Napalm, Final Writer, Miami, Yam, Ibrowse and PPaint. Before running the above programs I ran MEMORYCHECK and the results of that told me that the Segments were OK and the Memory Chips themselves were OK but the were >36 errors in the Fast Memory addressing such as $172df800 gives 17adf800 $171ff800 gives 179ff800 $1727e800 gives 17a7e800 The third element of the address was corrupt all the way through. When it did crash the guru was 81000005 or Corrupt Memory List, Data written to wrong address. The other common guru is 8100000f, Bad Free Address, Memory Header not located. My query is that if the Memory chips themselves are OK and the addressing fault only appears when using the 16MB simm then the fault must lie within the simm but is this due to faulty hardware or software? If it's software can it be cured with a patch or something? The 16MB simm is a 60ns 72 pin simm from Gasteiner. The 8MB simm came with the original board from Power. I've rung them both and they both assure me that their hardware is fine. When I first had problems I reinstalled WB 3.0 and started from scratch but still got multiple crashes. I run an A1200 with 030 50mhz Viper Mk V Accel internal 2.5" Seagate HD, external 3.5" SCSI Quantum HD and Power 4xCD, both externals are in a midi tower, 56K Typhoon Modem and Power Port Junior Serial Interface. The PPJ and Modem can be discounted as the problems existed before I bought them. I have just backed up my wb to another HD partition and had 6 errors of either object not found or name too long. In every case when I clicked try again all was well. I wrote the first part of this last night during a five hour session during which I went on and off line, edited & read mail, used Final Writer, Dopus and PPaint without a single hitch BUT in one hour today it's crashed about 15 times, invalidated my internet partition and generally been obnoxious so it has been replaced yet again with my trusty 8MB and Napalm will have to wait for another day. It's been just like using a Wintel machine and do I not like that. Kind regards roger buckley --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon Aug 02 17:50:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17007 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:51:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 21510 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 17:49:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21479 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 17:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 17:49:47 -0000 Received: from modem-85.caffeine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.56.85] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BMDy-0003af-00 for Just-Amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:50:11 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: Just-Amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Dodgy WB X-UIDL: 402f418d8773e3c70eb033a84daab698 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello everyone, Just recently, my poor old WB3.0 has started misbehaving. Occasionally, when doing routine things like copying files, it crashes, with MCP telling me that: "Workbench has performed a privilage violation error (not in supervisory mode)" This sounds bad. Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this? Regards, Sandy Brownlee ---------------------------------- M$- "Sorry, I forgot again... Where do you want to go?" --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon Aug 02 17:39:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17013 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:52:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 2820 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 17:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 2813 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 17:50:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 17:50:53 -0000 Received: from modem-85.caffeine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.56.85] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BME6-0003bQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:50:18 +0100 From: Just-Amiga To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Legacies X-UIDL: 36455b690b284c59128ba5e0cb600beb From: Just-Amiga Hello everyone, I was thinking of the new Amiga :-), and all the "Industry Standard" parts that we'll finally be able use once again, like modern monitors, DIMMs etc, without forking out considerable sums of hard- earned cash. Yes, it'll be great, BUT; there are some niceties of the current Amiga that may be lost: Has anyone heard of a USB keyboard with the Amiga key layout? I personally couldn't stand using Windoze keys all day. Maybe Amiga will do something about this? Ahh, good old fashioned floppy disks. Amiga HD ones presently hold 1.72Mb, but sadly (shame) PC ones only hold 1.44Mb. 0.28Mb ain't all that much, but it can be useful from time to time. I hear rumours that MCC will ship with a 1.44/ 120Mb superfloppy, but these don't accept Amiga disks. Finished your work? SWITCH OFF! No cheapo shutdown and no Scandisk if you get trigger happy with the power switch. I have nothing against the shutdown, it's useful: For the less, computer- literate, it saves them having to work out if the HDD's being accessed. For others, it's a way to get a few minutes off work. It almost guarantees that your disks won't suddenly become invalidated. But it shouldn't be forced on us; even if the shutdown went on behind out backs, initiated by the power switch (perfectly possible on ATX motherboards), it would be better than going to your Start menu like a child and clicking with the mouse. HIT THE SWITCH! I may seem a bit pessimistic, and I do acknowledge that the machine, if pulled off, will be great; but it had better retain some of these good ol' fashioned Amiga ideas. Regards, Sandy Brownlee --------------------------------------------- Amiga: Experience, don't endure. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations COUNTRYSIDE-ELIST. Our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From drstrange@jps.net Mon Aug 02 19:53:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA18894 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:03:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 26880 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 20:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 26871 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 20:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.jps.net) (209.63.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 20:02:00 -0000 Received: from jps.net (209-239-213-52.lax.jps.net [209.239.213.52]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09021 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) From: - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:53:07 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Legacies X-UIDL: b7f299ad983808e47cedfa45dbcd0298 From: - Howdy Just-Amiga On 02-Aug-99, Just-Amiga wrote: > From: Just-Amiga > Has anyone heard of a USB keyboard with the Amiga key layout? I personally > couldn't stand using Windoze keys all day. Maybe Amiga will do something > about this? I really don't think Amiga will ship a carefully custom-designed computer without it's own matching keyboard > > Ahh, good old fashioned floppy disks. Amiga HD ones presently hold 1.72Mb, > but sadly (shame) PC ones only hold 1.44Mb. 0.28Mb ain't all that much, > but it can be useful from time to time. I hear rumours that MCC will ship > with a 1.44/ 120Mb superfloppy, but these don't accept Amiga disks. The only difference between an IBM 1.44 Meg and Amiga 1.8 meg is the file system. Take an IBM disk, reformat it, and you got an IBM disk which can still be read by that same drive. They just use 1.44meg as a way of saying High Density; those same drives will do Mac high density as well, even though they format to yet another figure. heck, I've formated IBM disks into DiskSpare, for 1.98 Megs a disk. This problem is non-existent. > Finished your work? SWITCH OFF! No cheapo shutdown and no Scandisk if you > get trigger happy with the power switch. I have nothing against the > shutdown, it's useful: For the less, computer- literate, it saves them > having to work out if the HDD's being accessed. For others, it's a way to > get a few minutes off work. It almost guarantees that your disks won't > suddenly become invalidated. But it shouldn't be forced on us; even if the > shutdown went on behind out backs, initiated by the power switch > (perfectly possible on ATX motherboards), it would be better than going to > your Start menu like a child and clicking with the mouse. HIT THE SWITCH! The tech reports mentioned nothing about a Shut Down system. Besides, this is an operating system SOFTWARE issue, not anything to do with the new hardware. -Later -- I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From johfor@stromsund.mail.utfors.se Mon Aug 02 20:28:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA19411 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:45:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 28744 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 20:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28705 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 20:44:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.utfors.se) (195.58.103.125) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 20:44:17 -0000 Received: from stromsund.mail.utfors.se (Graak@md46909a3.utfors.se [212.105.9.163]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA29807 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:43:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Forsberg To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] PPC Power !!! X-UIDL: ab60342f1d426a17ee0e09d5c5e700f5 From: Johan Forsberg I finally got my PPC... a blizz 603 160 mhz 040 25... Speed... Power :) Anyone who knows where I can get some nice software for ppc except aminet? -- Graak (or Johan Forsberg) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon Aug 02 20:46:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA19562 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:54:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 13066 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 20:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13044 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 20:52:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 20:52:32 -0000 Received: from modem-88.benadryl.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.54.216] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BP4S-000515-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:52:32 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 21:46:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Legacies X-UIDL: d235f3d59cb71ade72b2542ea4bc41cc From: Sandy Brownlee Hello - On 02-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: - > > Howdy Just-Amiga > > On 02-Aug-99, Just-Amiga wrote: >> From: Just-Amiga Has anyone heard of a >> USB keyboard with the Amiga key layout? I personally couldn't stand using >> Windoze keys all day. Maybe Amiga will do something about this? > > I really don't think Amiga will ship a carefully custom-designed computer > without it's own matching keyboard I was hoping that, but you never know... >> Ahh, good old fashioned floppy disks. Amiga HD ones presently hold >> 1.72Mb, but sadly (shame) PC ones only hold 1.44Mb. 0.28Mb ain't all that >> much, but it can be useful from time to time. I hear rumours that MCC >> will ship with a 1.44/ 120Mb superfloppy, but these don't accept Amiga >> disks. > > The only difference between an IBM 1.44 Meg and Amiga 1.8 meg is the file > system. Take an IBM disk, reformat it, and you got an IBM disk which can > still be read by that same drive. They just use 1.44meg as a way of saying > High Density; those same drives will do Mac high density as well, even > though they format to yet another figure. heck, I've formated IBM disks > into DiskSpare, for 1.98 Megs a disk. This problem is non-existent. You can't use Amiga formatted disks in those LS-120s, though, and that's pretty much what they'll be using from what I hear. This has got something to do with extra check bytes or something, but it's also the reason that you can't boot your old games from a PC drive through a Catweasel. (That's why they made that Kylwalda thing, so you can still read Miggy disks.) >> Finished your work? SWITCH OFF! No cheapo shutdown and no Scandisk if you >> get trigger happy with the power switch. I have nothing against the >> shutdown, it's useful: For the less, computer- literate, it saves them >> having to work out if the HDD's being accessed. For others, it's a way to >> get a few minutes off work. It almost guarantees that your disks won't >> suddenly become invalidated. But it shouldn't be forced on us; even if >> the shutdown went on behind out backs, initiated by the power switch >> (perfectly possible on ATX motherboards), it would be better than going >> to your Start menu like a child and clicking with the mouse. HIT THE >> SWITCH! > > The tech reports mentioned nothing about a Shut Down system. Besides, this > is an operating system SOFTWARE issue, not anything to do with the new > hardware. I didn't say I would just rant on about hardware ;-) Most modern OSs use a shutdown of somesort (even Linux), so there's a good chance that Amiga will implement one of some kind. > -Later Regards, Sandy Brownlee --------------------------------- PCs- not just your average bucket of bolts... well, actually, they are. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Aug 02 23:03:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA20611 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:05:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 7800 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 22:03:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7789 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 22:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 22:03:55 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-055.enterprise.net [194.72.196.175]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02922 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:03:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 23:03:38 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PPC Power !!! X-UIDL: a168bb8a9ca08b32da4bc2e65b67a629 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I finally got my PPC... a blizz 603 160 mhz 040 25... > Speed... Power :) > Anyone who knows where I can get some nice software for ppc except aminet? Ok, if I remember correctly, there are some PPC programs at these websites: http://come.to/amigappc http://www.xs4all.nl/~rvounik/ppc/ Although, they've basically got what aminet has though. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he was subject to an electrostatic discharge. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Sun Aug 01 11:18:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21455 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:18:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 1562 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 23:16:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1313 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 23:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 23:15:47 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912243.acay.com.au [203.19.122.43]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20230 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:17:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <37A42CFF.8B93B83F@acay.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 21:18:23 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <001a01bedaf2$89a3b260$010aa8c0@sluggo.win95sux2.com> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Windows... lame! X-UIDL: 8f4214235c57c7e55e4aa15b6ef52178 From: Frank Bunton "Stephen C. Rigler" wrote: > > From: "Stephen C. Rigler" > >From: Chris Seward > > > >Stephen, > > > >On 24-Jul-99, you wrote: > > > > This thread's getting a little OT, so I'm just continuing with it in the > interest of "making sure we bash other platforms knowledgeably." > > 1. The ctrl+alt+del option does not work in Win95 RevA or RevB nor does it > work in Win98. I'm not sure which version you witnessed this in, but it > shouldn't have been any of the above. In the Win 98 set up that I have to use at times it works with some screen savers but not others. It seems (but I not sure) that it does NOT work with the screen savers provided with Win 98 but DOES work with SOME third party screen savers. But how about just turning off the power, starting in DOS mode and deleting all *.pwl files in C:\windows (passwords to get into windows itself) and deleting all screen savers (*.scr in C:\windows) then going to Windows. Or maybe instead of deleting these items, create a new directory and MOVE them all to there (making sure they are not left in original positions). I'm NOT going to try it as I don't want to muck up the computer (these PCs are so EASILY mucked up!!) but I can't see why that shouldn't work. This goes to show that how weak the Window's password system is. -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Aug 02 23:32:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21616 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:34:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 15205 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 23:31:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 15190 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 23:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 23:31:45 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912243.acay.com.au [203.19.122.43]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22035 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:34:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <37A62A73.78BAEF15@acay.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:32:03 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: "just-amiga@onelist.com" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Marcel Beck X-UIDL: 9c498e325350ed1b74398b7a46a03588 From: Frank Bunton CONGRATULATIONS TO MARCEL BECK on winning the AAA Award International 1998. See:- http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1999/990802-acg.html Very well deserved!!! -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Aug 03 00:34:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21650 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:36:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 3690 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 1999 23:33:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3643 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 23:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 23:33:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-008.enterprise.net [194.72.196.8]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA17582 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:34:19 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:34:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37A42CFF.8B93B83F@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame! X-UIDL: 33fdba7428f7931a03b57225949f08f9 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > This goes to show that how weak the Window's password system is. I thought, with the standard password system in windows (not the screensaver or bios passwords) all you have to do is cancel the password prompt and it loads up windows anyway. I'm not actually sure what the windows password system actually does, not a lot by the look of things. PS. On the subject of hacking PC password systems, who wants to know how to by-pass 'WinLock' (win3.1)? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 25/7/99 --- James Bond updated! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as Mini-Me bit him in a rather painful area. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue Aug 03 02:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA23145 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:52:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 22941 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 02:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22796 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 02:51:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 02:51:42 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-54.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.57]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09050 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:50:44 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: roger buckley Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:46:45 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: No SIMMpathy-Funky Hardware X-UIDL: e2c2a9e61af9794ee2c5e83acef353d8 From: Colin Wenzel On 03-Aug-99, roger buckley wrote: >From: roger buckley >Hi everybody >A while ago I asked for help with my 'iffy' 16MB simm due to crashing >regularly Firstly, as a technician, (and coder) I have had to fix an amazing assortment of problems with various Amiga's, here are the top 3 causes for unstable Amiga's... 1: Funky software !! - hacks & dodgy code... Try booting from a virgin WB disk (with appropriate files for HD's etc) & run your applications that normally crash. 2: The 5 volt power supply is NOT 5 volts. if it falls below 4.8 volts, you get random lockups & memory corruptions & general guru's These seem to be most prevelant with programs that use a bit of memory, such as Browsers, lots MUI apps.... 3: Using an accelerator on an un-modified A1200 board. The mods are required as the clock signal to the accellerator is too low in amplitude to function properly. There are several components on the 1d.4 & 2d boards that perform no function, they were installed for options that did not happen or were simply in error. Remedies: -------- 1: Remove / fix / update the offending software.... 2: USING AN ACCURATE DIGITAL VOLTMETER, Jack up the 5 volt rail to EXACTLY 5.01 volts, Measuring this ON the main board, to accomodate any voltage drop on the cables. A good location is on the floppy power connector (dont unplug it) just poke the '+' probe into the back of the plug. (the end pin, closest to the centre of the board.) The '-' probe to the modulator's case. 3: Modification required for accellerators to function properly. (written instructions supplied by courtest of phil collins ) {not the singer} --------------------------------------------------- As with most machines, the A1200 left the factory with a few design flaws. Most of these won't affect anybody, but they can stop some accelerators from working. Here are the modifications that should be made for a "perfect" A1200; REV 1D.4 ------- Budgie REV -01 Remove E123C and E125C from the A1200 motherboard Budgie REV -02 Remove E123C and E125C from the A1200 motherboard Remove XR358 470 ohm pull-up resistor Add 470 ohm pull up resistor at pin 43 of U, ie the Alice chip REV 2B ------ Budgie REV -01 and -02 Remove E123C and E125C from the A1200 motherboard Add 470 ohm pull-up at pin 43 of U2, ie the Alice chip Change R118 from 470 ohm to 220 ohm ---------------------------------------------------- SO, CHECK YOUR HARDWARE, If you are unskilled at these proceedures, then DO NOT ATTEMPT IT, you may destroy your board. Find someone who can perform the mods to a suitable standard. If your hardware is not stable, then nothing else will be.... ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Tue Aug 03 17:49:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01533 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:51:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 8651 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 17:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8603 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 17:50:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 17:50:07 -0000 Received: from modem-9.atenolol.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.54.9] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BihT-0002US-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:50:07 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:49:55 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame! X-UIDL: db81cfb4616b7d08ec79720099d4065e From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Andrew On 03-Aug-99, you wrote: > I thought, with the standard password system in windows (not the > screensaver or bios passwords) all you have to do is cancel the password > prompt and it loads up windows anyway. This is true, but you won't be able to access any protected files. > I'm not actually sure what the windows password system actually does, > not a lot by the look of things. It's more important if you're on a network, because without a username and valid password, you only get access to the local machine. > PS. On the subject of hacking PC password systems, who wants to know how > to by-pass 'WinLock' (win3.1)? Sounds good; I'm always trying to show up PCs ;-) > See ya. Regards, Sandy Brownlee (Doesn't like PCs, but forced to use 'em far too often) -------------------------------------- Amiga: Enjoy, don't endure. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Tue Aug 03 10:02:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02442 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:50:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 14518 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 18:48:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14396 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 18:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 18:48:20 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.133.17] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9B924B01AA; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:49:29 +0100 From: roger buckley To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:02:55 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: No SIMMpathy-Funky Hardware X-UIDL: dacea0cf04f86f4c52bafd6abce3da59 From: roger buckley Hello Colin On 03-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Colin Wenzel > > On 03-Aug-99, roger buckley wrote: >> From: roger buckley >> Hi everybody >> A while ago I asked for help with my 'iffy' 16MB simm due to crashing >> regularly > > > Firstly, as a technician, (and coder) I have had to fix an amazing > assortment of problems with various Amiga's, > here are the top 3 causes for unstable Amiga's... st of phil collins ) > {not the singer} > > As with most machines, the A1200 left the factory with a few > design flaws. Most of these won't affect anybody, but they can > stop some accelerators from working. > Here are the modifications that should be made for a "perfect" > A1200; > SO, CHECK YOUR HARDWARE, If you are unskilled at these > proceedures, then DO NOT ATTEMPT IT, you may destroy your board. > Find someone who can perform the mods to a suitable standard. > > If your hardware is not stable, then nothing else will be.... >Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. Very many thanks for the comprehensive reply, I'm sure it has helped a lot of folks on the list as well as me. I'll let you know the cause when I find it. Regards roger --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From drstrange@jps.net Tue Aug 03 23:45:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA06558 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:53:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 1179 invoked by alias); 3 Aug 1999 23:51:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1166 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 23:51:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp6.jps.net) (209.63.224.103) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 23:51:34 -0000 Received: from jps.net (209-239-217-133.lax.jps.net [209.239.217.133]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14636 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT) From: - To: Amiga Info Online Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:45:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Transmeta or not-? X-UIDL: a9acf447dc3023217e29925b02e79501 From: - Fresh poff the presses, courtesy my subscription to Infobeat, is this clipped announcement concerning Sun Systems- one of the announced Amiga Partners... *** Sun to unveil new chip architecture SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Sun Microsystems Inc., a maker of workstations, network servers and software, said it is working on a new family of computer chips that will eventually power media-rich consumer devices such as video games, handheld computers and screen phones. Sun plans to unveil its design for its new media chips, called the MAJC (pronounced magic) Instruction Set Architecture, at the Hot Chips Conference, a symposium on high-performance chips at Stanford University later this month. Sun's new chip architecture will be used to create general purpose "convergence" processors, chips which will run applications that blend communications, video, sound and computing functions. Notice the word "confergence" My thinking- who says the AmigaNG can't have a Transmeta AND the new Sun chip <*really* evil grin> Later. -- Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Wed Aug 04 02:53:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA07755 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 02:56:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 27979 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 02:54:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 27917 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 02:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 02:54:20 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (usr2-ppp47.tranquility.net [206.156.230.202]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA10218 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:53:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37A7AB1C.D4DB6345@tranquility.net> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 21:53:16 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Transmeta or not-? X-UIDL: d33bdfd83ee88ecc21c7ca38871dd5fe From: Jim Mackoy - wrote: > From: - > > My thinking- who says the AmigaNG can't have a Transmeta AND the new Sun > chip <*really* evil grin> Yes that could be a crusher, but even better with the Glaze chip if it lives up to it's billing. check it at The specs on it are truly astonishing. Jim --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Ian.Latuskie@cmgplc.com Wed Aug 04 12:33:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14007 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:32:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 29987 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 12:30:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29978 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 12:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cmgplc.com) (195.153.64.65) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 12:30:49 -0000 Received: from uk-sta-route01.cmgplc.com ([10.10.20.106]) by mail.cmgplc.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-0U10) with ESMTP id AAA378 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:33:55 +0100 Received: by uk-sta-route01.uk.cmgplc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: <150396C2FD51D211800000104BC1D6D0A275B8@UK-STA-MAIL01> From: Ian Latuskie To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:33:18 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] further magc info X-UIDL: e462ac02cd693917e16be9447d9f8a99 From: Ian Latuskie http://www.theregister.co.uk/990803-000018.html ( Ian Latuskie, CMG Network Consultant, GECIS LFA, 0171 592 4077, 01784 416403, pager: 01523 523523 - 895646 ) * Please note that the above does not necessarily represent the views of CMG UK plc, * * nor be construed as forming a binding contract, which should be formally obtained. * * The above is confidential and only for use by the addressee unless indicated above. * ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From elessar@ionsys.com Wed Aug 04 13:01:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14653 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:13:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 21773 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 13:11:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 21766 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 13:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.formglas.com) (207.164.23.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 13:11:03 -0000 Received: from ionsys.com ([207.164.23.144]) by mail.formglas.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) with SMTP id 852567C3.004825F0; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:08:03 -0400 Message-ID: <37A839C1.60364609@ionsys.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:01:53 -0400 From: Stephen Lopes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <001a01bedaf2$89a3b260$010aa8c0@sluggo.win95sux2.com> <37A42CFF.8B93B83F@acay.com.au> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Windows... lame! X-UIDL: 74eee2458116e8183fdf94e7debfbf6e From: Stephen Lopes > In the Win 98 set up that I have to use at times it works with some > screen savers but not others. It seems (but I not sure) that it does NOT > work with the screen savers provided with Win 98 but DOES work with SOME third > party screen savers. I haven't been able to get it to work with 95 or 98 but haven't tried third party screen savers. (mind you that would then be a problem with the 3rd party not with windows). > But how about just turning off the power, starting in DOS mode and > deleting all *.pwl files in C:\windows (passwords to get into windows > itself) and deleting all screen savers (*.scr in C:\windows) then going > to Windows. > > Or maybe instead of deleting these items, create a new directory and > MOVE them all to there (making sure they are not left in original > positions). > > I'm NOT going to try it as I don't want to muck up the computer (these > PCs are so EASILY mucked up!!) but I can't see why that shouldn't work. > > This goes to show that how weak the Window's password system is. Yep do this all the time (I support a medium sized network and people are always forgetting their passwords)... It doesn't damage anything to delete the offending .pwl file in the windows directory while in DOS mode, but you don't have to del the *.scr files, 'cause once you're logged in you just go to the display properties and disable the screen saver password by unchecking the check box... (this really pisses me off btw. because it should, really really should ask you to enter the password to disable it...) Steve --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Wed Aug 04 12:10:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18933 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:53:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 16150 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 17:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15841 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 17:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 17:52:20 -0000 Received: from modem-78.amitriptyline.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.50.78] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11C5Cb-0003z0-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:51:45 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 13:10:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Transmeta or not-? X-UIDL: 8cb1f3253401b929f3f1e2039b17a578 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello - On 04-Aug-99, you wrote: > *** Sun to unveil new chip architecture > > SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Sun Microsystems Inc., a maker of > workstations, network servers and software, said it is working on a > new family of computer chips that will eventually power media-rich > consumer devices such as video games, handheld computers and screen > phones. Sun plans to unveil its design for its new media chips, > called the MAJC (pronounced magic) Instruction Set Architecture, at > the Hot Chips Conference, a symposium on high-performance chips at > Stanford University later this month. Sun's new chip architecture > will be used to create general purpose "convergence" processors, > chips which will run applications that blend communications, video, > sound and computing functions. > > > Notice the word "confergence" Mmm. Interesting. Well, after all these possibilties, one thing is certain; Amiga will kick Intel ass! A thought- given that Sun are "a little" involved with Java, would this effectively be a native Java platform? (Completely destroying the platformless standard, but nevertheless) Regards, Sandy Brownlee ------------------------------- Scott- "I like animals, maybe I'd be a vet." Dr. Evil- "An evil vet?" Scott- "No. Maybe like work in a petting zoo." Dr. Evil- "An evil petting zoo?" Scott- "YOU ALWAYS DO THAT!!!" Parental love in the original Austin Powers. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From oliver.roberts@iname.com Wed Aug 04 17:33:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19882 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:29:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 10907 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 18:26:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10858 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 18:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 18:26:49 -0000 Received: from modem-91.candle.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.122.91] ident=oliver) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11C5ku-0008RO-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:27:12 +0100 Date: 04 Aug 99 18:33:57 +0100 From: "Oliver Roberts" To: "-" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <770.885T2886T11134770oliver.roberts@iname.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Transmeta or not-? X-UIDL: 94a3e78116095da269bb4324770cbacb From: "Oliver Roberts" On 04-Aug-99 00:45:09 BST, - wrote: > *** Sun to unveil new chip architecture > My thinking- who says the AmigaNG can't have a Transmeta AND the new Sun > chip <*really* evil grin> Well, according to all the available facts, Transmeta do not have the facilities to make chips - they are just designing them for other parties to use. So, who's to say that Transmeta didn't design Sun's new chip? -- Oliver Roberts /~\ ___(~)__ __ |~~~/~| UIN: 34640231 Norwich, UK | o | ' |~/. /. | | ~|| | oliver.roberts@iname.com |_|_|_M_|_\_,\__; |_| |_| oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Developer |__/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ [ PGP public key available on request ] Team *AMIGA* --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Wed Aug 04 21:23:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22245 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:49:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 32026 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 1999 20:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 31939 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 20:47:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 20:47:45 -0000 Received: from modem-69.amlodipine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.50.197] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11C7wQ-0004lZ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:47:14 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.tamoxifen.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 4 Aug 99 21:43:36 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) Message-ID: <37a90400@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 04 Aug 99 21:23:24 GMT In-Reply-To: Organization: Zeus Developments - The Killing Ground BBS X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6 (13.11.95) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] more about FIDO X-UIDL: 69c80b7676dd52cdd1b1fb36315dc252 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Monday August 02 1999, Vytautas said to All: V> I'm confused I have Spot, nice Telnet program ;) and Trapdor. What must V> I do now to get FIDO access.I would be greatfull for step by step V> instructions V> :) You e-mail me and ask to be set up :) Info coming your way now. -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From elessar@ionsys.com Thu Aug 05 15:40:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04831 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:03:35 +0100 Received: from onelist.com by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) id QQhayy16178 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:01:54 GMT Received: (qmail 21174 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 15:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21132 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 15:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.formglas.com) (207.164.23.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 15:57:35 -0000 Received: from ionsys.com ([207.164.23.144]) by mail.formglas.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) with SMTP id 852567C4.0056ACA2; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:46:42 -0400 Message-ID: <37A9B06A.A0A1082D@ionsys.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:40:26 -0400 From: Stephen Lopes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame! X-UIDL: 2a4d3c44be3fdfd8dbae0ca8d456a89c From: Stephen Lopes > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > > This goes to show that how weak the Window's password system is. > > I thought, with the standard password system in windows (not the screensaver or bios passwords) all you have to do is cancel the password prompt and it loads up windows anyway. > > I'm not actually sure what the windows password system actually does, not a lot by the look of things. There is a setting in the windows registry that allows you to change that, but I think by default if you hit cancel it just lets you in. (impressive security huh??) Stephen --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Richard van den Brink This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bastid@wt.net Thu Aug 05 09:09:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA07689 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:38:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 12549 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 19:36:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12483 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 19:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wmailz.wt.net) (205.230.159.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 19:36:30 -0000 Received: from wt.net (sys48.hou.wt.net [205.230.159.48]) by wmailz.wt.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20599 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:09:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bastid@wt.net) From: "Stephen C. Rigler" Sender: bastid@wt.net To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:09:28 +500 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.0n, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <37a9e168.5074.0@wt.net> X-User-Info: 192.70.218.5 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 104eb01002a85af5ae6d3dee0bbdb57a From: "Stephen C. Rigler" >> I thought, with the standard password system in windows (not the screensaver or bios passwords) all you have to do is cancel the password prompt and it loads up windows anyway. >> At the risk of sounding like I'm praising Windows, I believe that we all need to recognize the merits of each OS before we go around bashing everything that doesn't run on Amiga and wind up sounding completely ignorant in the process. First off, we should understand that just as there are things which make us extremely proud of our Amigas, there are also things that other platforms can do that ours can't. I work in an IT department supporting Win95, WinNT 3.51/4.0, MacOS, Solaris, and IRIX. The LAN I support is in a building with about 1500 machines. The WAN is worldwide (the only continents we don't connect to are Australia and Antarctica). While I love to come home and relax with my Amiga, I recognize that it could not handle any of the tasks that the machines I work with have to perform. So before we run around chanting "mine is better" let's ask ourselves if our Amiga's can do anything that is expected of another platform such as: 1. Automated software delivery system 2. Centralized hardware and software inventory 3. Centralized security 4. Fault tolerance 5. Can easily roll out multiple machines with different configurations 6. Thin Clients (ie Terminal Server or Winframe) This just what I've come up with off the top of my head, but the Amiga hasn't even begun to play catchup with what most of the widely used machines can do already. So, before we go around saying "Windows sucks because you can just hit cancel at the logon prompt to use the machine" maybe we should ask ourselves what advantages the Amiga still has. I'm always rooting for Amiga, but I know that smooth multitasking on a 50mhz processor and screen dragging will never sell someone when the cheaper alternative is a 500mhz machine that can do everything else. -Steve --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Aug 05 20:37:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA07698 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:39:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 9947 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 9830 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-006.enterprise.net [194.72.196.6]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10999; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:37:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: afb@egroups.com, just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:37:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] !James Bond on a GFX card screen!! X-UIDL: ebffd71e7a0e2abc0eeda0be1b336c50 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Whats that you say? You can't use a GFX card with amos? Well, Think again! James Bond V0.98 is now out (cor, that was quick - ed) and this time it supports ANY GFX CARD! Yes, thats right! Now all you BV/CV owners who were missing out because they didn't have a scandoubler can now finally play You Only Live Twice. And if that wasn't enough, the CPU players are better and some bugs are fixed too ;) So, why not go to my homepage, Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ and download a copy of James Bond V0.98 now ;) PS. James Bond has not yet been /tested/ on a gfx card, but the routines it uses have, so it should work no prob. PPS. Does anyone have one of those 4-player adapters? I would /really/ like to know if James Bond actually works with it... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 4/8/99 --- James Bond CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Aug 05 20:37:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA07702 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:39:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 9956 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 9830 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 19:37:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-006.enterprise.net [194.72.196.6]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10999; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:37:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: afb@egroups.com, just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:37:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [amos-list] !James Bond on a GFX card screen!! X-UIDL: 85b4d11b6f73b910909600ec80e57063 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Whats that you say? You can't use a GFX card with amos? Well, Think again! James Bond V0.98 is now out (cor, that was quick - ed) and this time it supports ANY GFX CARD! Yes, thats right! Now all you BV/CV owners who were missing out because they didn't have a scandoubler can now finally play You Only Live Twice. And if that wasn't enough, the CPU players are better and some bugs are fixed too ;) So, why not go to my homepage, Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ and download a copy of James Bond V0.98 now ;) PS. James Bond has not yet been /tested/ on a gfx card, but the routines it uses have, so it should work no prob. PPS. Does anyone have one of those 4-player adapters? I would /really/ like to know if James Bond actually works with it... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 4/8/99 --- James Bond CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Thu Aug 05 21:47:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA08913 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:56:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 7511 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 20:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 7503 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 20:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 20:54:39 -0000 Received: from [194.119.178.23] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 11CUWb-0006vJ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:54:06 +0100 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 21:47:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37a9e168.5074.0@wt.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: a9d5d526be9b00edb1dc523795f53405 From: Paul Ferguson Hi Steve, On 05-Aug-99, Stephen C. Rigler wrote: > At the risk of sounding like I'm praising Windows, I believe that we all > need to recognize the merits of each OS before we go around bashing > everything that doesn't run on Amiga and wind up sounding completely > ignorant in the process. I have to admit that until (approx) 12 months ago I'd fall into the category that 'bashed' anything that didn't run on the Amiga...since I got my present job however, I've come to realise that there are many things that are possible on those 'other' platforms that the Amiga (in it's current incarnation) just can't compete with. That was quite a sobering discovery ! (Ok, so I knew the facts but didn't realise quite how much I'd miss certain features offered as standard by Windows in it's various incarnations when I came home to my Amiga) > First off, we should understand that just as there are things which make > us extremely proud of our Amigas, there are also things that other > platforms can do that ours can't. One thing for me stands head and shoulders above the rest. Put quite simply, it's the Amiga community ! > I work in an IT department supporting Win95, WinNT 3.51/4.0, MacOS, > Solaris, and IRIX. I have Win 95, NT4, Novell 3.51 and some god awful IBM Mainframes. Luckily for me the Unix is handled by another IT guy...I'd love to learn about it but don't have the time :( >The LAN I support is in a building with about 1500 machines. Well, you beat me there...by a long way ! >The WAN is worldwide (the only continents we don't connect to > are Australia and Antarctica). I don't deal much with the WAN but yes, ours is global too > While I love to come home and relax with my Amiga, I recognize that it > could not handle any of the tasks that the machines I work with have to > perform. I think here that we have to remember that the Amiga was designed as a home machine not a business one...yes there are Amigas in use in business but primarily I'd say that it wasn't meant to be a server (for example) >So before we run around chanting "mine is better" let's ask > ourselves if our Amiga's can do anything that is expected of another > platform such as: > 1. Automated software delivery system > 2. Centralized hardware and software inventory > 3. Centralized security > 4. Fault tolerance > 5. Can easily roll out multiple machines with different configurations > 6. Thin Clients (ie Terminal Server or Winframe) All of these would be nice but would be almost impossible to implement bearing in mind the current Amiga architecture :( > This just what I've come up with off the top of my head, but the Amiga > hasn't even begun to play catchup with what most of the widely used > machines can do already. We'll get there :) > So, before we go around saying "Windows sucks because you can just hit > cancel at the logon prompt to use the machine" maybe we should ask > ourselves what advantages the Amiga still has. See above...the user base/community...call it what you will. >I'm always rooting for > Amiga, but I know that smooth multitasking on a 50mhz processor and screen > dragging will never sell someone when the cheaper alternative is a 500mhz > machine that can do everything else. Unfortunately I have to agree...running an 030/50 here myself I would love to see an Amiga that could be all things to all people...who knows ... maybe it's possible ? -- Cheers, *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :baldrick@ukonline.co.uk :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 Old mercenaries never die. They just go to hell and regroup. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Thu Aug 05 22:22:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA10071 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:24:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 21960 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 22:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21495 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 22:23:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 22:23:00 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (usr2-ppp3.tranquility.net [206.156.230.158]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA02946; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:22:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37AA0E8E.9DFF6501@tranquility.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:22:06 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com, teamamiga@thule.no References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Remote sessions/ remote system administration for Amiga. X-UIDL: 853c347ecd8de917076a4d7cf8270d15 From: Jim Mackoy This from the Linuxtoday site. VNC allows X type (but much leaner than X) remote sessions from many platforms, including Amiga and BeOS. Jim --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bastid@wt.net Thu Aug 05 23:36:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10893 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:40:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 12005 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 1999 23:39:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 11999 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 23:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sys32.hou.wt.net) (205.230.159.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 23:39:52 -0000 Received: from sluggo (216-119-129-171.ipset9.wt.net [216.119.129.171]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA15456 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:51:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002801bedf9b$55a11ea0$010aa8c0@sluggo.win95sux2.com> From: "S C Rigler" To: Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:36:25 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: c88b9e7ada68b254b879efbefff29430 From: "S C Rigler" >One thing for me stands head and shoulders above the rest. Put quite simply, >it's the Amiga community ! That's the most true thing I've heard so far. I can't really think of any other platform with such a loyal userbase besides maybe the Mac people and the Linux people. The most important thing a loyal userbase can do though is not be closed-minded. The Amiga has to play catchup to a lot of things, and it helps to know what those are. The only way to know what you're competing against is by learning it. -Steve --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kwdjc@wf.net Fri Aug 06 01:08:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA11643 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 01:11:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 12166 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 1999 01:09:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12051 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 01:09:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 01:09:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 17091 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 20:09:44 -0500 Received: from mw-pm2-16.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.55) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 20:09:44 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:08:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AAC X-UIDL: df50c5393c1115bab00a321830529e44 From: Kenneth Craig Hello all, Here is the AAC (Amiga Advisory Council) members. http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1999/990805-ai.html Kenneth -- The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net UIN 12669981 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From borkar@SoftHome.net Fri Aug 06 15:00:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19820 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:04:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 2785 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 1999 14:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 2758 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 14:02:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO charleston.softhome.net) (204.144.231.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 14:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 6081 invoked by uid 417); 6 Aug 1999 14:27:01 -0000 Received: from sdu65-225.ppp.algonet.se (HELO SoftHome.net) (195.163.225.65) by smtp.softhome.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 14:27:01 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje?= Karlsson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 16:00:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Questions (CyberVision) X-UIDL: 0b521aaaada6a12167546d3b3c1a736e From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje?= Karlsson Hello, I bought a used cybervision64/3D, and I have A2000 with a 2630 card and an Oktagon 208 harddrive card. I have 1mb chip ram and 8mb fastram The problem is following: I don't get any picture on my monitor (Goldstar Studioworks 74m) I have installed the latest drivers,and I have put the card in the nearest zorro slot(nearest to my2630 card) I also disconected 4 mb ram from the Oktagon card. Is there anyone who has any suggestions on what to do? Thanks in advance Kind regards Börje Karlsson --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Fri Aug 06 19:42:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23806 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:54:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 10292 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 1999 18:53:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10287 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 18:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 18:53:42 -0000 Received: from [194.119.178.23] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 11Cp7o-00011J-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:53:53 +0100 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 19:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002801bedf9b$55a11ea0$010aa8c0@sluggo.win95sux2.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 9b0818482b79c85a4b7489655e525c95 From: Paul Ferguson Hi Steve, On 05-Aug-99, S C Rigler wrote: >> One thing for me stands head and shoulders above the rest. Put quite >> simply, it's the Amiga community ! > That's the most true thing I've heard so far. The fact thats its the truth makes it all the more important >I can't really think of any > other platform with such a loyal userbase besides maybe the Mac people and > the Linux people. Having not really met many Mac users I can't comment on them but the Linux folks are pretty close knit. >The Amiga has to play catchup to a lot of things, and it > helps to know what those are. The only way to know what you're competing > against is by learning it. I'd love (don't know what the correct term is) Universal cut 'n paste without having got resort to plug in utils that sometimes work and sometimes don't. Thats a start to my wish list for the NG Amiga :) -- Cheers, *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :baldrick@ukonline.co.uk :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 Maybe you can't buy happiness, but these days you can certainly charge it. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From RSisk@world.std.com Fri Aug 06 23:38:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA26697 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:46:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 3678 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 1999 23:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3654 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 23:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europe.std.com) (199.172.62.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 23:45:08 -0000 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id TAA07302; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from World.STD.Com (ppp0a004.std.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA20502; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:44:27 -0400 From: "Robert A. Sisk" To: Just Amiga List Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 19:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 21438f5678117a687805c0afb5d2f12b From: "Robert A. Sisk" On 05-Apr-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: > On 05-Apr-99, Robert A. Sisk wrote: >> I've installed an internal IDE CD-ROM drive in my A4000 with AmigaOS >> 3.1, and I've dragged the CD0 file from Storage/DOSDrivers to >> Devs:DOSDrivers. When I load a CD into the drawer, I can hear it spin >> up, but no icon for it appears on the Workbench. The Info command shows >> unit CD0: as having no disk present. >> How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help >> from the list. Thank you. > You need to do a LoadV43Modules ( from amiga.de/files/SCSI_IDE_43.24.lha > ) so the IDE on the A4000 will be able to work the ATAPI CD drive > properly. Here's a late update: Based on documentation I found at Seagate's site, I moved a jumper on my Seagate ST3144A hard drive's JP3 jumper block from the "Master on (Slave off)" position to "Slave present", installed SCSI_IDE from the Amiga site, and finally, renamed the CD0 mount file to CD1 and changed the Unit tool type from 2 to 1. My CD drive now works. A belated thanks to all those who offered assistance. Kind regards, -- Bob Robert A. Sisk RSisk@World.STD.Com --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sat Aug 07 10:34:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA31145 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:28:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 7578 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 11:27:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7568 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 11:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 11:27:10 -0000 Received: from modem-77.amantadine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.205] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11D4cm-0004aW-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:26:52 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 11:34:26 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 1738d9c15d8f1f0deea4fd4b6c58245d From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Paul On 06-Aug-99, you wrote: > I'd love (don't know what the correct term is) Universal cut 'n paste > without having got resort to plug in utils that sometimes work and > sometimes don't. Thats a start to my wish list for the NG Amiga :) I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple clipboards? Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press a number key at the same time, you perform the action on a different clip to the main one. It's probably already been thought of, though. Regards, Sandy Brownlee. ------------------------------------- "If there's one film you must see this summer, then it would be Star Wars. But, erm, if there's TWO films you must see, then make Austin Powers your second." -Austin Powers 2 trailer. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ianurie@jwu.u-net.com Sat Aug 07 23:05:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01393 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:18:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 7451 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 17:12:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 7324 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 17:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 17:12:42 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.150] (helo=p22.nas2.is5.u-net.net) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 11DA0n-00026B-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:12:01 +0100 Date: 07 Aug 99 18:05:04 -0500 From: "Ian Urie" To: "Sandy Brownlee" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <687.888T209T10853916ianurie@jwu.u-net.com> Organization: At Home X-Installer: Wirenet 1.8 X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 6eec2d6319c29fd3861ff6741cb6b328 From: "Ian Urie" On 07-Aug-99 05:34:26, Sandy Brownlee said about [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand??: > I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple > clipboards? > Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press a number key at > the same time, you perform the action on a different clip to the main one. > It's probably already been thought of, though. It was years ago.....with Powersnap! Still works to this day although not on proportional fonts. I believe there are also some others available. -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 All for one; one for all, except me above all. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Sat Aug 07 17:55:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02272 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:02:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 32401 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 19:00:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 32396 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 19:00:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 19:00:23 -0000 Received: from [194.119.178.23] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 11DBge-00062a-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:59:21 +0100 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 17:55:46 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 928ee926bb72e4a64fb80dab67aa48ea From: Paul Ferguson Hi Sandy On 07-Aug-99, Sandy Brownlee wrote: > I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple > clipboards? I'm sure it's possible now.... > Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press a number key at > the same time, you perform the action on a different clip to the main one. > It's probably already been thought of, though. Thats got me thinking...I can't remember if it's already a feature of Win '98 or an add-on...Cliptray will handle multiple text entries (Thats on the Win98 CD in \tools\reskit\desktop) Anyway, thats just one of the features I'd like to see :) -- Cheers, *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :baldrick@ukonline.co.uk :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Sat Aug 07 21:02:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02958 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 20:32:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 9223 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 20:30:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9150 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 20:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 20:30:57 -0000 Received: from [194.119.178.23] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 11DD7v-0000zS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:31:37 +0100 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 21:02:12 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <687.888T209T10853916ianurie@jwu.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 298387f69a7c44807a03857407e21d5c From: Paul Ferguson Hi Ian, On 07-Aug-99, Ian Urie wrote: Ref Cut 'n Paste > It was years ago.....with Powersnap! Yeah I know, I use it here > Still works to this day although not on proportional fonts. > I believe there are also some others available. Powersnap for some reason or another is a flaky as hell on my machine. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't...possibly due to the text editor or whatever s/ware I'm using at the time. I think it could be a bit more stable if the Cut 'n Paste was 'built in' as part of the OS Just my 2p worth :) -- Cheers, *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :baldrick@ukonline.co.uk :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 Friends don't let friends use sendmail! --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bloelle@polbox.com Sat Aug 07 21:56:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03469 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:38:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 18900 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 21:36:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18626 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 21:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO priv.gold.pl) (212.244.33.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 21:36:18 -0000 Received: from priv.gold.pl (root@pa10.czestochowa.ppp.tpnet.pl [212.160.21.10]) by priv.gold.pl (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA17078 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:35:43 +0200 From: Mikolaj Calusinski To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 22:56:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: No SIMMpathy-Funky Hardware X-UIDL: ff03c8ec5bfee5c5c81d6ade3177011e From: Mikolaj Calusinski On 03-Aug-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: > 2: USING AN ACCURATE DIGITAL VOLTMETER, > Jack up the 5 volt rail to EXACTLY 5.01 volts, > Measuring this ON the main board, to accomodate any > voltage drop on the cables. > A good location is on the floppy power connector (dont unplug it) > just poke the '+' probe into the back of the plug. > (the end pin, closest to the centre of the board.) > The '-' probe to the modulator's case. On my motherboard multimeter shows 4.90 at floppy power connector. Unfortunately, I cannot adjust it to your suggested value as there's no potentiometer inside PSU I use. Frankly speaking, I have no probs with my Amiga but it would be fine to assure it stays that way when I connect some additional expansions. Can you advice something? > REV 2B > ------ > Budgie REV -01 and -02 > Remove E123C and E125C from the A1200 motherboard > Add 470 ohm pull-up at pin 43 of U2, ie the Alice chip > Change R118 from 470 ohm to 220 ohm As I said I had no probs but neverthless I did these fixes. Just in case. ;) You seem to be highly experienced in hardware areas: is there a way to switch color burst off to in-built modulator? I have an old (but still very usable) Philips NTSC/PAL green monitor and sometimes I connect it to my Amiga (mainly to CD32 which serves as a debug console). It works fine but the picture quality is not very impressive comparing to that of A500 MONO output. Any chances to disable or bypass that Sony encoder on motherboard? Regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikolaj Calusinski - MM - bloelle@priv.gold.pl A1200/E-Box/040@33MHz/48MB/WD2.1GB/MITSUMI 4x/FHD+2FDD/Zoltrix33.6 Pure Amiga Fanatic ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Aug 07 17:04:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03728 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:13:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 20649 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 22:11:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20642 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 22:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 22:11:01 -0000 Received: from modem-13.amoxicillin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.13] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DEgc-0001Ay-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:11:30 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.amoxicillin.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 7 Aug 99 19:50:40 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) Message-ID: <37acbc77@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> Date: 07 Aug 99 17:04:30 GMT In-Reply-To: <37a9e168.5074.0@wt.net> Organization: Zeus Developments - The Killing Ground BBS X-Mailer: AmiGate 1.6 (13.11.95) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: b0084f4ac0f01abae21c1aec3e010047 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Thursday August 05 1999, Stephen C. Rigler said to All: SCR> While I love to come home and relax with my Amiga, I recognize that it SCR> could not handle any of the tasks that the machines I work with have SCR> to perform. So before we run around chanting "mine is better" let's SCR> ask ourselves if our Amiga's can do anything that is expected of SCR> another platform such as: SCR> 1. Automated software delivery system Yes. SCR> 2. Centralized hardware and software inventory Yes, to an extent. SCR> 3. Centralized security Yes. SCR> 4. Fault tolerance Nope. Not anything decent anyway. SCR> 5. Can easily roll out multiple machines with different configurations Yes. SCR> 6. Thin Clients (ie Terminal Server or Winframe) Yes, more advance stuff is in process. -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Aug 07 23:57:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA04392 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:57:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 17591 invoked by alias); 7 Aug 1999 23:55:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 17583 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1613 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:57:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <687.888T209T10853916ianurie@jwu.u-net.com> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 5c7caa4257a14c0338650d0002646e38 From: Pat Kushko On 7 Aug 1999, Ian Urie wrote: > From: "Ian Urie" > > On 07-Aug-99 05:34:26, Sandy Brownlee said about [just-amiga] Re: Windows... > lame!..getting out of hand??: > > > I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple > > clipboards? > > Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press a number key at > > the same time, you perform the action on a different clip to the main one. > > It's probably already been thought of, though. > It was years ago.....with Powersnap! > Still works to this day although not on proportional fonts. > I believe there are also some others available. I'm still suprised that there are people who have never heard of CBE 'short for Clip Board Enhancer' which auto-magically assigns each clip it's own clip (up to 256 clips) and paste from anyone of them. The clips can be preloaded and works hand in hand with powersnap, supports your editor, save functions, datatypes and more.. CBE should be one of those 'must have items' turns your clips into files with icons and works with just about every Amiga program and is especially nice with Browsers. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Aug 08 04:40:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA05820 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 04:44:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 19841 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 04:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19772 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 04:42:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 04:42:59 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-56.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.59]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23684 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:42:52 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Mikolaj Calusinski Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 14:40:08 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: No SIMMpathy-Funky Hardware X-UIDL: 3a02be68a8103434546d2fe779091ab9 From: Colin Wenzel On 08-Aug-99, Mikolaj Calusinski wrote: >From: Mikolaj Calusinski >On 03-Aug-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: >> 2: USING AN ACCURATE DIGITAL VOLTMETER, >> Jack up the 5 volt rail to EXACTLY 5.01 volts, >> Measuring this ON the main board, to accomodate any >> voltage drop on the cables. >> A good location is on the floppy power connector (dont unplug it) >> just poke the '+' probe into the back of the plug. >> (the end pin, closest to the centre of the board.) >> The '-' probe to the modulator's case. >On my motherboard multimeter shows 4.90 at floppy power connector. >Unfortunately, I cannot adjust it to your suggested value as there's no >potentiometer inside PSU I use. Frankly speaking, I have no probs with my >Amiga but it would be fine to assure it stays that way when I connect some >additional expansions. Can you advice something? In your case, anything above 4.85 volts will be fine, (but not a millivolt lower) The computer /may/ tollerate low voltage conditions reasonably well but unfortunately, accellerators & ram simms go really strange when the voltage goes too-low.. It can even be mistaken for thermal problem, because the simms or GAL chips used on accelerators/ram boards/gfx cards change their characteristics depending on temperature. If they are also experiencing a low voltage situation as well, they may only seem to 'crash' when they warm up.. A lot of the power supplies are not adjustable because they are preset in the hardware or totally sealed in epoxy resin.... If you have a sealed one, get hold of an old A500 power supply, they had a better current rating, plus, they are adjustable too.... >You seem to be highly experienced in hardware areas: > is there a way to switch >color burst off to in-built modulator? I have an old (but still very usable) >Philips NTSC/PAL green monitor and sometimes I connect it to my Amiga (mainly >to CD32 which serves as a debug console). It works fine but the picture >quality is not very impressive comparing to that of A500 MONO output. Any >chances to disable or bypass that Sony encoder on motherboard? The only effect you may get, using a monochrome monitor on a color CVBS output, would be very fine (mesh like) lines over the picture... However this is unlikely, because most mono monitors roll off their response at about 4.5Mhz, so having the color subcarrier present should have no effect on the video display.... I would be more likely to suspect your coaxial cable from the video output. Most people don't realize that CVBS signals occupy a large signal bandwidth & cable designed for audio are NOT suitable. You need a good 75 ohm coaxial cable for the video signal. (with proper line termination at the monitor.) Otherwise you get color bleed, streaking, ringing & other nasty effects.. Incase the color subcarrier IS the cause of your "bad picture" you can disable it for test purposed quite easily, by simply linking the 2 terminals of the color crystal together.. (square metal can with 4.43Mhz on it) This will effectively remove all color component from the signal. If you still get problems, your trouble is elsewhere... ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. 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X-UIDL: 92060400aba30aefb5d95aa0f2c5d064 From: neil@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) On Saturday August 07 1999, Sandy Brownlee said to All: SB> I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple SB> clipboards? Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press SB> a number key at the same time, you perform the action on a different SB> clip to the main one. It's probably already been thought of, though. The Amiga has 256 clipboards - a lot of programs allow you to choose which one they'll use, but normally most things clip to unit 0. There *is* a program somewhere that will let you choose which unit to work with for any program, but I can't remember it's name.. -- Neil Williams, Wrexham, Wales mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 SlamMail & Zeus BBS Developer/TKG SysOp/RC5 Amiga Team/AIO News Editor Zeus Developments - http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From johfor@stromsund.mail.utfors.se Sun Aug 08 11:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08496 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:11:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 30031 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 12:09:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 30024 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 12:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.utfors.se) (195.58.103.125) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 12:09:40 -0000 Received: from stromsund.mail.utfors.se (Graak@md4691135.utfors.se [212.105.17.53]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26357 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:09:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Forsberg To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 13:54:18 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37adbea8@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: 4eca6e2ce621bf0b5ec86ffbd2738ef5 From: Johan Forsberg Hi Everyone I got a problem with Theme Park AGA. When I start it, it just crashes. It dosen't matter if I start it from WB or no startup-sequence. In the manual it says that if you got problems with Theme Park then just remark setpatch in startup-sequence. I disabled all patches I got and started from WB. What did I see? Flashing lights :) It crashed... I disabled my PPC-board and made backups of my orignal disks and runned it from disks... It worked but it isn't so fun to run from disks... And it's very slow on a 020... Anyone who can help me? I want to run from Hd without disabling stuff... I can't run from Hd with only 2 Mb ram (when I disable my PPC-board). My computer spec is: A1200 Blizzard 603e 160 MHz with a 040/25MHz 16 Mb ram 1.7 Gb Hd -- Graak (or Johan Forsberg) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 08 15:17:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10058 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:29:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 665 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 15:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 660 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 15:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 15:27:47 -0000 Received: from modem-84.nefazodone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.212] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DUrk-0006Mc-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:28:05 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 16:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37adbea8@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Clipboards [Was: Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand??] X-UIDL: 9ea36404e4c296c3d79d78db20e7e7e2 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Neil On 08-Aug-99, you wrote: > The Amiga has 256 clipboards - a lot of programs allow you to choose which > one they'll use, but normally most things clip to unit 0. There *is* a > program somewhere that will let you choose which unit to work with for any > program, but I can't remember it's name.. Thought so- any good computing idea, and normally Amiga has already been there in some shape or form. Bizarre how the workbench itself never made use of this facility though, like Windoze's cut, copy and paste files. Regards, Sandy Brownlee ------------------------------------ Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Aug 08 15:20:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10065 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:30:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 32451 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 15:27:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 32423 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 15:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 15:27:51 -0000 Received: from modem-84.nefazodone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.212] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DUro-0006Mc-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:28:09 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 16:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: bf973db982b5262e7fd3bee8504f9c0c From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Johan On 08-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Johan Forsberg > > Hi Everyone > I got a problem with Theme Park AGA. When I start it, it just crashes. It > dosen't matter if I start it from WB or no startup-sequence. In the manual > it says that if you got problems with Theme Park then just remark setpatch > in startup-sequence. I disabled all patches I got and started from WB. > What did I see? Flashing lights :) It crashed... I disabled my PPC-board > and made backups of my orignal disks and runned it from disks... It worked > but it isn't so fun to run from disks... And it's very slow on a 020... > Anyone who can help me? I want to run from Hd without disabling stuff... I > can't run from Hd with only 2 Mb ram (when I disable my PPC-board). My > computer spec is: This may be a bit patronising, but it's always best to check the simple things- have you got 68040.library correctly installed? On the same topic, does anyone know how to use Theme Park's save game on an HDD, without invalidating the disk? --------------------------------------- A paradox: Taglines are a waste of time. 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For details and to order, go to: http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From nybo@softhome.net Sun Aug 08 16:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10679 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:53:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 6032 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 16:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6023 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 16:50:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO charleston.softhome.net) (204.144.231.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 16:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27838 invoked by uid 417); 8 Aug 1999 17:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO softhome.net) (130.228.57.61) by smtp.softhome.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:16:14 -0000 Message-ID: <37ADB63A.75F8806C@softhome.net> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:54:18 +0200 From: Martin Nybo Andersen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: cd3bbd2f48e4dea8c746f3348aeee0d7 From: Martin Nybo Andersen Sandy Brownlee wrote: [...] > On the same topic, does anyone know how to use Theme Park's save game on an > HDD, without invalidating the disk? Either recode TP or use a filesystem which doesn't get invalid (ie. SmartFileSystem) The same goes for Syndicate -Martin --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Aug 08 17:25:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10806 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:05:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 27170 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 17:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27165 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:03:41 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-052.enterprise.net [194.72.196.52]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27733 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:03:40 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:25:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: 4b68fb950383292391a1517f29a14f3c From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > On the same topic, does anyone know how to use Theme Park's save game on an > HDD, without invalidating the disk? Yes, go to the title screen, then press F7 to quit the game (I think its F7, Fsomething anyway). That way the system can write back the bitmap. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Aug 08 17:23:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10810 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:05:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 931 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 17:04:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 925 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 17:04:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 17:04:11 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-052.enterprise.net [194.72.196.52]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27728 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:03:38 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:23:50 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: 4737e189d63ca42d93beed14d1635216 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > > I got a problem with Theme Park AGA. When I start it, it just crashes. It > A1200 > Blizzard 603e 160 MHz with a 040/25MHz > 16 Mb ram > 1.7 Gb Hd I have the same spec. (alomst) and the same problem. I'm afriad that it seems that themepark just doesn't like the PPC cards... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as the comet impacted --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist announces "FRIENDS & FAMILY!" For details, including our weekly drawing, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mwyatt@kih.net Sun Aug 08 21:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13481 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:49:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 12201 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 21:46:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5086 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1999 21:40:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO autoreg.kih.net) (209.209.180.8) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 21:40:59 -0000 Received: from kih.net (AmiScorp@lon132.kih.net [209.209.179.132]) by autoreg.kih.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08118 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marion E. Wyatt" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:41:38 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Clipboards [Was: Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand??] X-UIDL: 17b507b3e9c701f9f849a665cc0bde7d From: "Marion E. Wyatt" On 08-Aug-99 at 11:17:58, Sandy Brownlee wrote these words of wisdom: > From: Sandy Brownlee >> The Amiga has 256 clipboards - a lot of programs allow you to choose >> which one they'll use, but normally most things clip to unit 0. There >> *is* a program somewhere that will let you choose which unit to work with >> for any program, but I can't remember it's name.. I don't recall the name but I do remember it ison Aminet somewhere. Doing a search for clipboards would probably find it. > Thought so- any good computing idea, and normally Amiga has already been > there in some shape or form. Bizarre how the workbench itself never made > use of this facility though, like Windoze's cut, copy and paste files. Does OS3.5 have better support for the 256 clipboards? :) I keep hearing stuff that I wish was better supported by Workbench. -- Marion E. Wyatt AMIGA3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.1 138MB 1GB ZIP100 mwyatt@kih.net / // / I support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! __ __ / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member \ \\ \/ // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\_/_//_/ and * * A M I G A * * My homepage * http://www.users.kih.net/~mwyatt Amiga Connexion * http://www.users.kih.net/~mwyatt/AmigaConnexion.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Mon Aug 09 01:57:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA15575 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:04:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 22335 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 02:02:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 22314 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 02:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 02:02:25 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-29.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.32]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11389 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:02:21 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:57:19 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] PPaint Screen Grab. X-UIDL: b0f2b838a6019015a28cf8bc84260b43 From: Colin Wenzel Could someone please tell me why PPaint 7.1 gives me a 2 color (monochrome) screen grab, when I try & grab a screen that's on my Spectrum card. ?? ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060 / 50Mhz 150Mb RAM. ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Richard van den Brink This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Aug 09 04:05:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA16240 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:07:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 30464 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 04:05:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 30453 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 04:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 04:05:35 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912416.acay.com.au [203.19.124.16]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16120 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:08:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <37AE5386.6501BE70@acay.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:05:26 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Clipboards [Was: Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand??] X-UIDL: b65fad7834ca09d6e0415a7b6f2008fa From: Frank Bunton "Marion E. Wyatt" wrote: > > From: "Marion E. Wyatt" > > On 08-Aug-99 at 11:17:58, Sandy Brownlee wrote these words of wisdom: > > From: Sandy Brownlee > > >> The Amiga has 256 clipboards - a lot of programs allow you to choose > ... big snip ... For those interested below is an excerpt from "AmigaDOS For Beginners" (available on Aminet at:- docs/help/arexxbegin.lha Also I have a program (but never used it) called "Clip Board Enhancer" by Anthony J Moringello anthony@pha1.csd.uwm.edu this let you switch between the various clipboards. I don't know if it is still available ~~~~~~~~~~~~ excerpt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE CONCLIP COMMAND Location - "c" directory Purpose - To make available the ability to copy text from the console device to the clipboard device and then paste it into another window Availability - AmigaDOS Versions 2.0 Onwards As you probably know, from AmigaDOS Version 2.0 onwards, you can highlight text in a console window by dragging the mouse pointer over the text with the left mouse button held down then copying it by pressing RIGHTAMIGA/C The copied text can then be pasted into the same or another window by pressing RIGHTAMIGA/V. The windows being copied from and pasted to must both be ones that support such actions. The Shell and ED windows both allow it. Some third party programs also have windows that can act in this way. This system is set up by using the CONCLIP command. However, for it to work your system must have the following files present:- LIBS:iffparse.library DEVS:clipboard.device The usage for CONCLIP can be one of:- CONCLIP CONCLIP UNIT number CONCLIP number CONCLIP OFF CONCLIP UNIT number OFF CONCLIP number OFF The keyword UNIT is optional so that:- CONCLIP UNIT 1 CONCLIP 1 are identical in action. Both turn unit 1 on, and:- CONCLIP UNIT 1 OFF CONCLIP 1 OFF are identical in action. Both turn unit 1 OFF. If used without a unit number, the default unit 0 is used:- CONCLIP turns unit 0 on CONCLIP OFF turns unit 0 off There 256 available unit numbers ranging from 0 to 255 The default unit 0 is the one set up in the normal startup-sequence file. You can change the number to any of the other 256 units. For example, to change to unit 1 you would use:- CONCLIP 1 If you used this after unit 0 was set up at startup, anything previously copied to unit 0 would be preserved and all copying would then be to unit 1. You could then retrieve the text in unit 0 by using:- CONCLIP 0 and anything in unit 1 would be preserved. All this would be rather tedious if done manually in a Shell/CLI window. However, if you want to be able to preserve a lot of clips in different units, there are utilities available to do the job for you. Two of them that I know about (there could well be others) are:- CBE (Clip Board Enhancement) Shareware by Anthony Moringello ClipHistory Freeware by Magnus Holmgren Both are available on Aminet web sites and CD-ROM disks in the directory "util/cdity". Some programs also have the ability to select various clipboard units but offhand I cannot think which ones they are. The OFF Option can be used to turn off CONCLIP. What then happens is the you can still copy and paste but the copied text is NOT written to the clipboard. So, if you had text in the clipboard unit 0 (the default unit) that you wished to keep there, you could enter:- CONCLIP OFF then do a copy and paste, then enter:- CONCLIP and the original text in unit 0 will again be available. -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations COUNTRYSIDE-ELIST. Our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From brotheramiga@takas.lt Mon Aug 09 12:25:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22939 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:12:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 25429 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 14:10:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25417 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 14:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srvr3.telecom.lt) (212.59.0.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 14:10:07 -0000 Received: from takas.lt (guest@dialup48.vln.takas.lt [212.59.0.112]) by srvr3.telecom.lt (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA07309 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:10:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Vytautas To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 13:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; street="Taikos 49-1"; city="Vilnius"; country="Lithuania"; phone="8-22-476957" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Theme Park AGA X-UIDL: 4a3d0f734cb5dfdd2eb4347457f9cd66 From: Vytautas Hello Johan On 08-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Johan Forsberg > > Hi Everyone > I got a problem with Theme Park AGA. When I start it, it just crashes. It > dosen't matter if I start it from WB or no startup-sequence. In the manual > it says that if you got problems with Theme Park then just remark setpatch > in startup-sequence. I disabled all patches I got and started from WB. > What did I see? Flashing lights :) It crashed... I disabled my PPC-board > and made backups of my orignal disks and runned it from disks... It worked > but it isn't so fun to run from disks... And it's very slow on a 020... > Anyone who can help me? I want to run from Hd without disabling stuff... I > can't run from Hd with only 2 Mb ram (when I disable my PPC-board). My > computer spec is: > > A1200 > Blizzard 603e 160 MHz with a 040/25MHz > 16 Mb ram > 1.7 Gb Hd I see u have 040 CPU. I have 030 but MOST OLD and/or badly programed games doesn't like caches turned on or VBR in fast ram. So try tude from Aminet to turn off caches and move VBR to Chip mem. First I would sugest you to turn off Copyback mode of 040 CPU (with CPU command) and then move VBR to Chip mem. Hope this helps, Vytas -- "Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit OS originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition." Mailed from AMIGA OS3.1 WB3.1 with YetAnotherMailer Freeware --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ste.bar@cableinet.co.uk Fri Aug 06 18:30:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27161 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:07:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 10246 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 19:05:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 6144 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 17:50:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jaguars.cableinet.net) (193.38.113.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 17:50:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 7142 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 17:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.138.77) by jaguars with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 17:50:43 -0000 From: stephen barton To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 18:30:14 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] sending sms messages X-UIDL: 9b685725874d5a7a46de1fe86e303c8a From: stephen barton Hello,everybody i am having trouble sending sms messages to mobile phones. i have tried verious programs including smsmaster. smsmaster says could not open port. any ideas what i am doing wrong any help you can give will be great Kind regards ste --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Mon Aug 09 20:05:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29078 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:23:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 19248 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 1999 21:21:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 14379 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 20:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.wxs.nl) (195.121.6.61) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 20:05:23 -0000 Received: from ad9938 ([195.121.216.233]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA70C7 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:05:52 +0200 From: amiga@thefree.net To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <19998979551_NetKioskMail> X-Mailer: KPN/CPS Internet Kiosk (AD9938) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:05:52 +0200 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Wondering where i am? X-UIDL: 4b86dde1f9f5da7c8a9ba5323e7d4557 From: amiga@thefree.net Hi, If your all wondering why i haven't replied to any messages for about two weeks its because i'm in Amsterdam, Holland. Forgot to tell you I would be here but I fly home tommorow morning at about 8:00am CET which is 7am UK. I'll reply to all your emails by this coming Saturday at the latest!!!! I'm on an internet booth thing wwhich runs off fone cards and isn't too expensive! It's 22:03pm and i've gotta be up for 6am so i'd better go, just wanted to say hello :) I went to ttthe Ajax stadium which was mucho coolo :) Anyway i'll tell you about it in a few days after i'm home! Cya all! 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I'm sure I've done it once some time ago, but I can't remember how I did it. The game manual says nothing about using a joystick. Phil Collins Sydney, Australia --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed Aug 11 18:36:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26371 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:31:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 2468 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 1999 18:29:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 2135 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 18:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 18:28:54 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-045.enterprise.net [194.72.197.45]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01639 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:29:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:36:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Alien Breed X-UIDL: c881f91d79b9ea9e24e35aab3fedc2a7 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Can anyone please tell me if it's possible to use a joystick, to > navigate in "Alien Breed 3D II"? > I'm sure I've done it once some time ago, but I can't remember > how I did it. I don't know about the seccond one, but in the first AB3D you press 'J' to use a joystick. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Czar Paul 1 of Russia banished soldiers to Siberia for marching out of step. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From philbert@cyberone.com.au Thu Aug 12 10:40:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04793 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:51:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 28508 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 11:50:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 28446 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 11:50:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.canberra.net.au) (203.29.91.119) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 11:50:07 -0000 Received: from cyberone.com.au (philbertcyberone.com.au@dialup90.sydney.net.au [202.61.208.30]) by smtp.canberra.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04206 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:50:03 +1000 From: Phil Collins To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:40:34 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Alien Breed X-UIDL: 7d8119d70d09f41883bd79188315c898 From: Phil Collins On 12-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >> Can anyone please tell me if it's possible to use a joystick, >> to navigate in "Alien Breed 3D II"? I'm sure I've done it once >> some time ago, but I can't remember how I did it. > > I don't know about the seccond one, but in the first AB3D > you press 'J' to use a joystick. > > See ya. Regards Thanks Andrew, Guess what! - it works with v.II as well - I'm a bit embarrassed about it being so simple! Phil Collins --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Thu Aug 12 14:41:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06395 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:43:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 14812 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 13:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14799 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 13:41:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 13:41:55 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as4-dial62.pntc.mi.voyager.net [209.153.138.62]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id JAA00175 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack York To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Broken HardDrive X-UIDL: 5b772a5edeab21efcdae673411c82a73 From: Jack York Hello, I'm afraid I know the answer to this but I want to be sure. My original scsi harddrive lost its RDB. I was able to recover some of it but I wanted to get a second drive installed so I took it out of the system and set it aside for the moment. I got the new drive working and installed the original as a second drive to try and recover the rest of it but the system doesn't even recognize it as being hooked up. That is, if I run HDInstTools, only the new drive shows up on the bus. I replaced the original with a known good third drive and HDInstTools shows both of them (the new one and the third one). This seems to indicate that the original drive is really broken now. Is this repairable (there is still some important data on it)? Is there some utility to test it more in-depth? Or should I just throw it away and forget about it? :( Jack --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Aug 12 15:43:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA08359 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:44:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 9103 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 15:42:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8751 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 15:41:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 15:41:49 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1946 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Broken HardDrive X-UIDL: d96465d928e2ed2740acadefd9970a1d From: Pat Kushko On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Jack York wrote: > From: Jack York > > Hello, > > I'm afraid I know the answer to this but I want to be sure. > > My original scsi harddrive lost its RDB. I was able to recover some > of it but I wanted to get a second drive installed so I took it > out of the system and set it aside for the moment. I got the new drive > working and installed the original as a second drive to try and recover > the rest of it but the system doesn't even recognize it as being > hooked up. That is, if I run HDInstTools, only the new drive > shows up on the bus. I replaced the original with a known good third > drive and HDInstTools shows both of them (the new one and the third one). > This seems to indicate that the original drive is really broken > now. Is this repairable (there is still some important data on it)? Is > there some utility to test it more in-depth? Or should I just throw it > away and forget about it? :( Jack I suspect that you've got a corrupt RDB and it's causing HDtools to come up with problems. If you put back this drive 'EXACTLY' back as it came out... you'll be left with a semi-readable drive. By adding another drive in it's place, the RDB wants to be changed as it keeps a record of what drive is online and it's position, with one drive having a corrupt RDB... it's anyone's guess if you can recover the data. Sounds like you might be forced into specifying the drive type, size etc.. manully before a complete format. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Thu Aug 12 18:17:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA09750 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:20:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 6005 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 17:19:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 5916 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 17:19:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 17:19:07 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as4-dial101.pntc.mi.voyager.net [209.153.138.101]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id NAA04721 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack York To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Broken HardDrive X-UIDL: 5f6162dbbb76fe644f353688252c1087 From: Jack York Hello Pat On 12-Aug-99, Pat Kushko wrote: > From: Pat Kushko > > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Jack York wrote: > >> From: Jack York >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm afraid I know the answer to this but I want to be sure. >> >> My original scsi harddrive lost its RDB. I was able to recover some >> of it but I wanted to get a second drive installed so I took it >> out of the system and set it aside for the moment. I got the new drive >> working and installed the original as a second drive to try and recover >> the rest of it but the system doesn't even recognize it as being >> hooked up. That is, if I run HDInstTools, only the new drive >> shows up on the bus. I replaced the original with a known good third >> drive and HDInstTools shows both of them (the new one and the third one). >> This seems to indicate that the original drive is really broken >> now. Is this repairable (there is still some important data on it)? Is >> there some utility to test it more in-depth? Or should I just throw it >> away and forget about it? :( > > Jack > > I suspect that you've got a corrupt RDB and it's causing HDtools > to come up with problems. If you put back this drive 'EXACTLY' > back as it came out... you'll be left with a semi-readable drive. I think I have done this. The last time it was working I did have the original and the spare third drive I mentioned installed. But the spare drive didn't have all the tools I needed so that's why I decided to get the new one up and running first. By > adding another drive in it's place, the RDB wants to be changed as it > keeps a record of what drive is online and it's position, with one drive > having a corrupt RDB... it's anyone's guess if you can recover the data. > Sounds like you might be forced into specifying the drive type, size > etc.. manully before a complete format. I'm not sure how to do that since HDInstTools can't see the drive. I have to be able to select it before I can do anything else don't I? Jack --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw@nysa.u-net.com Thu Aug 12 17:57:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10308 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:59:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 4711 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 17:57:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4706 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 17:57:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 17:57:03 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.98] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 11Ez0U-0003og-00; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:51:14 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:57:16 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Arbok X-Zero-Hour: in 507 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Digital cameras X-UIDL: 8f49db1dcb8b46c1368be8b81c65397e From: Stephen Williams Hi folks Do any of you use digital cameras? I'm vaguely interested in getting hold of one, possibly the Sony one that uses floppy disks as "film". If any of you use one of those (or any digital camera) alongside your Amigas, I'd be interested to hear how well they work, any problems you've had etc. -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.u-net.com/ ]] --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations IM-USA, our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From kimmo.viitanen@pp.inet.fi Thu Aug 12 20:20:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12301 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:29:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 19108 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 20:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16741 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 20:25:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mbox-1.inet.fi) (192.89.123.189) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 20:25:53 -0000 Received: from user-kou2-132.dial.inet.fi ([195.165.10.132]:1760 "EHLO JIPPO") by mbox-1.inet.fi with ESMTP id ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:24:45 +0300 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990812231458.00998ea0@mail.inet.fi> X-Sender: viitki-2@mail.inet.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:20:36 +0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Kimmo Viitanen Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga to PC X-UIDL: eb72c484335c30650167bca4baedc892 From: Kimmo Viitanen Hi I have an Amiga 600 (1Mb RAM) without a harddisk and I'm trying to transfer files from Amiga to PC. I have found this very hard to get it work. I have used Pc2Am308 and every time it crash on Amiga side. When the program starts, I can see the PC drives and after 5 seconds it crash. I really like this program (if it works) because it uses PC:-device so I can transfer ADF-files directly to the PC. Any recommends to another easy to install & use file transfer systems? Or any help to get that pc2am to work. The best system would be a TCP/IP + NFS, but it sounds too big for my little Amiga. - Kimmo --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk Thu Aug 12 21:11:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA12875 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:14:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 26180 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 1999 21:11:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25826 invoked from network); 12 Aug 1999 21:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 1999 21:11:40 -0000 Received: from micro-media.demon.co.uk ([212.228.65.251] helo=pc300a) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11F28s-0004oy-0B for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:12:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01bee507$5d917c60$fb41e4d4@pc300a> From: "Gavin Williams" To: References: <4.2.0.58.19990812231458.00998ea0@mail.inet.fi> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:11:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga to PC X-UIDL: 3b26b2bcaf73e364512afc6cf897a97d From: "Gavin Williams" Hi Try Network PC from Weird Science, parallel connection, doddle. > I have an Amiga 600 (1Mb RAM) without a harddisk and I'm trying to transfer > files from Amiga to PC. Regards Gavin Williams gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Molly Jones This week's FRIENDS & FAMILY WINNER! To enter, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From alden1@airmail.net Fri Aug 13 00:32:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA15066 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:40:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 32027 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 00:33:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31964 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 00:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 00:32:58 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.16.36] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.405) with smtp for sender: id ; Thu, 12 Aug 99 19:32:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Digital cameras X-UIDL: 853dba75748ab2cf73db367a6d5e90f6 From: Jon Peterson Hello Stephen On 12-Aug-99, you wrote: > Do any of you use digital cameras? I'm vaguely interested in getting > hold of one, possibly the Sony one that uses floppy disks as "film". > If any of you use one of those (or any digital camera) alongside your > Amigas, I'd be interested to hear how well they work, any problems > you've had etc. I bought and used one of the Kodak cameras a year or so ago as it was about the only thing that I could afford and there was a program that would import the pics into the Amiga - to some extent. I then happened upon a pretty good price for one of the Sony Mavicas with the zoom lens. I have been quite pleased with it and have had it a year or so now with no problems. The pics are simply jpegs and if you can read the high density disks (PC formatted), then all you have to do is copy them over to your Amiga and that's it. Regards --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From willik@bellatlantic.net Thu Aug 12 14:58:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA15269 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:02:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 19385 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 01:00:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19374 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 01:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) (199.45.39.156) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 01:00:50 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-204-202-70.bellatlantic.net [151.204.202.70]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA23597 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Willi Kusche To: Kimmo Viitanen Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:58:33 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990812231458.00998ea0@mail.inet.fi> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga to PC X-UIDL: 0901e915e0ebcd54454e7cc7b7e70fa0 From: Willi Kusche Hi! On 13-Aug-99, Kimmo Viitanen wrote: --- snip --- >Any recommends to another easy to install & use file transfer systems? Or >any help to get that pc2am to work. The best system would be a TCP/IP + >NFS, but it sounds too big for my little Amiga. >- Kimmo I use "pc2am" frequently and am extremely fond of it. I'm trying to think of any reason why you're having the problem you're experiencing but am unable to do so. I have included the mountlist entry that I use, below. Willi # PC: /* Mounting receipt for the PC device */ FileSystem = l:pc2am-handler Stacksize = 4096 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 /* These four values specifies parameters of serial (or other if you use multiserial card) device to communicate via. */ Device = serial.device /* baudbandit2.device */ Unit = 0 Flags = 0 Baud = 115200 /* Maximal length of packet */ MaxTransfer = 8192 /* Timeout value in tenths of second (not surfaces :-)*/ Surfaces = 20 /* This contains type of indication. Supported types: 0=NONE, 1=LED, 2 = Gopher-like, 3 = Background */ BlocksPerTrack = 2 /* Specifies hotkey. Shifting bits are as follows: 8 - CTRL, 9 - LALT, 10 - RALT, 11 - LSHIFT, 12 - RSHIFT, 13 - LCOMMAND, 14 - RCOMMAND */ LowCyl = 818 /* Not used now, but may be used for config purposes later. Keep it zero. */ HighCyl = 0 # --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Aug 13 03:05:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA16128 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:11:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 16234 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 03:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16136 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 03:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 03:03:32 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (2302 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:05:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Digital cameras X-UIDL: 686c10e39dee020bc897f8b1d242357f From: Pat Kushko Hi Stephen, Just thought I'd give you my viewpoint as a Canon Xapshot owner and a Sony Mavica user. The Canon Xapshot is a still camera in name only... it stores it's signal on a small 2.5" floppy in analog format; much in the same was a video tape camera does. I use DCTV to get images of reasonable web quality 320X240 or quick grabs... although I've had to use IMFX and a script to do some post clean-up and re-sizing. The camera came in two versions... one double my resolution (and more than double the price at the time). These cameras should be available in the marketplace for $100-200 tops. Advantages, size (fits in a large pocket) and number of pixs (50 on a disk) and with no flash, I can grab 100 images on a battery charge, and of course price.. The Sony Mavica I have use of takes a 640X480 pixel picture and saves it directly on a MS-DOS formated 1.44 floppy. It's picture is much clearer than the Xapshot even used with better digitizers. It has zoom and image pre-view, and many assorted commands. This is a much more expensive unit... and of course there is newer models with even better resolutions, But the price is low amount of images per disk (no big deal carring floppies around) and the heavy size/weight and not to mention a much hefter price. Myself... I'll go for one of those super megapixel cameras (I heard Fuji has a 4 meg chip version coming) and the digital camera market is really hot so look for prices wars everywhere, and make sure you can get the final pictures into the Amiga somehow. > Do any of you use digital cameras? I'm vaguely interested in getting > hold of one, possibly the Sony one that uses floppy disks as "film". > > If any of you use one of those (or any digital camera) alongside your > Amigas, I'd be interested to hear how well they work, any problems > you've had etc. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Aug 13 03:11:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA16152 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:14:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 25327 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 03:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 25238 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 03:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 03:09:21 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1437 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990812231458.00998ea0@mail.inet.fi> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga to PC X-UIDL: 9962ab9b50cf7ca1f710e9f178134144 From: Pat Kushko > I have an Amiga 600 (1Mb RAM) without a harddisk and I'm trying to transfer > files from Amiga to PC. I have found this very hard to get it work. I have > used Pc2Am308 and every time it crash on Amiga side. When the program > starts, I can see the PC drives and after 5 seconds it crash. I really like > this program (if it works) because it uses PC:-device so I can transfer > ADF-files directly to the PC. > > Any recommends to another easy to install & use file transfer systems? Or > any help to get that pc2am to work. The best system would be a TCP/IP + > NFS, but it sounds too big for my little Amiga. Hi Kimmo, I've tried most of the Amiga<->PC software including Pc2Am but found them lacking... espcially considering how nice Pc2Am looks and sometimes works. I ended up using 'TWIN' as my day-to-day file transfer system. It's fast (read about a 1 meg a minute) compared to modem speeds and works well.. (you might have to use it from DOS) at least on my 25 footer. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jamffrey@hotmail.com Fri Aug 13 12:52:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA23260 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:54:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 7300 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 12:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7237 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 12:52:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.226) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 12:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 37036 invoked by uid 0); 13 Aug 1999 12:52:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990813125221.37035.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.37.67 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:52:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.152.37.67] From: "James Jaffrey" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:52:17 GMT Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re: Windows... lame!..getting out of hand?? X-UIDL: 681153141a7c95681b06bd0d8aed9463 From: "James Jaffrey" Hi, Sometime around the 13th of August Sandy Brownlee replied to this: >Hello Paul > >On 06-Aug-99, you wrote: > > > > I'd love (don't know what the correct term is) Universal cut 'n paste > > without having got resort to plug in utils that sometimes work and > > sometimes don't. Thats a start to my wish list for the NG Amiga :) > >I've always like the idea of cut 'n' paste, but how about multiple >clipboards? >Cut, copy and paste all work like normal, but if you press a number key at >the same time, you perform the action on a different clip to the main one. >It's probably already been thought of, though. My response is read the WB2 manual. Are we all forgetting that you can copy stuff from CLI's and output windows on WB by first selecting it and then pressing right-amiga and c. Paste it using right-amiga and v. This perhaps does not allow you to select certain things but is is useful nonetheless. 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(Next to the water-treatment works) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Thu Aug 12 10:16:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25737 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:37:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 8879 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 15:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8872 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 15:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 15:36:36 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.229] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 11FJHI-0002pL-00; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:29:56 +0000 From: Ralph To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:16:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: sending sms messages X-UIDL: 340a7ea0e05ec473f85c848d1eda2b6f From: Ralph Hello stephen On 06-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: stephen barton > > Hello,everybody > i am having trouble sending sms messages to mobile phones. > i have tried verious programs including smsmaster. > smsmaster says could not open port. > any ideas what i am doing wrong > any help you can give will be great > Kind regards ste > Hi Ste , What serial port are you using ? AFAIK you can only use the Amiga internal one :-( Ralph --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist’s FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ste.bar@cableinet.co.uk Sat Aug 14 00:02:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA28441 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:41:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 14566 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 18:39:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14544 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 18:39:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jaguars.cableinet.net) (193.38.113.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 18:39:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26973 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 18:40:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.138.182) by jaguars with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 18:40:16 -0000 From: stephen barton To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: sending sms messages X-UIDL: 1cec17645393f9762aa2493e214b65b3 From: stephen barton Hello Ralph On 12-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Ralph > > Hello stephen > > On 06-Aug-99, you wrote: > >> From: stephen barton >> >> Hello,everybody >> i am having trouble sending sms messages to mobile phones. >> i have tried verious programs including smsmaster. >> smsmaster says could not open port. >> any ideas what i am doing wrong >> any help you can give will be great >> Kind regards ste >> > > Hi Ste , > > What serial port are you using ? > > AFAIK > > you can only use the Amiga internal one :-( > > > > Ralph > hello ralf thanks for replying to my message, the thing i did wrong was i didnt put my name and phone number in the softwares phonebook ,so they can charge me for the call. thanks again for your help ste > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! > If you join ONElists FRIENDS & FAMILY program. 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For program details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/biglistbon_intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 14 00:02:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA31756 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:25:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 27892 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 1999 23:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27871 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 23:22:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 23:22:57 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.174] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB2848A0126; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:24:40 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:02:28 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] I'm back! X-UIDL: ff68e07678c5d7b915b0d1790883d431 From: Chris Seward Hi all, Well i'm back, at last. After a short weeks break in The Netherlands aka Holland. Well the trip was fine, the flight was fine, the country is great and the holiday was excellent :) Holiday talk, skip if you don't want to be bored ;).... Well the flight going was at 6:30am which was a real pain in the arse, meant having to get up real early to catch the flight. If your like me you don't normally go to sleep until 2-3am some nights then you'll know it was basically impossible for me to get any sleep as I had to be up for 4am to get ready. This meant... I got no sleep at all, well I tell a lie, about 15 mins in total. Big deal! I flew from Liverpool airport which is a bit hill-billy, ie. small :) But the flight only takes an hour which isn't bad at all. I'm still not completely sure I like the idea of flying, i've only flown these last few years, it'll probably take a bit more to get used to. I don't like the bit where the plane levels out as the engines seem to make no noise as the front of the plane tips forwards, arrg :) Well anyway I didn't crash as you can probably tell. No duty free this year due to the stupid europian ruling or whatever so that is a bit of a blow, us brits like our duty free. Anyway we flew out at 6:30am practically on the dot and arrived in the Netherlands 1 hour later at 8:30am CET, they are one hour ahead so don't think i've made a mistake in the times :) I'm not sure about spellings of these places so for anyone who knows or all you living in the Netherlands I excuse myself for my poor spelling of place names. The main airport, Schipol (Sp?) we arrived at was packed out. Ok its a main airport and 8:30am isn't that early in the morning but it could have been a little less packed :) A host of languages went flying around the place with the Americans out in force, it seemed like there was some male and female basketball team there or something from the US but i'm not sure, I just walked straight on past. We boarded a double decker train, yes! double decker, don'y know if they exist in any other country but in England trains with two floors, don't exist, it wasn't a shock to me because I was in the Netherlands last year also but they are a sight to see, very big :) The top floor gets very hot and is normally full of smokers and the bottom floor is too low. As always these trains are packed to the brim with people. You are lucky to get a seat if you get on at a main station at a peak time. You'll be lucky to be standing aswell. Standing on a moving train with bags and cases is not easy! These trains go fast, well fast compared to british trains which are down right slow. Oh the joy of trying to get out of peoples way without them needing to start speaking dutch to me only to find a blank faced reply. I was armed with my one liner "Spreekt u engelse" which for you who havn't caught on means something like do you speak english. >From the airport station we travelled to Amsterdam 'Centraal Station' to catch a connecting train to our first destination. Overall my holiday was great :) I love Holland especially Amsterdam but Amsterdam is nothing like the rest of Holland. If anyone is thinking of visiting the Netherlands but is in two minds then i'd say go for it :) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Create a list for FRIENDS & FAMILY... ...and YOU can WIN $100 to Amazon.com. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Sat Aug 14 00:46:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32514 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:56:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 26279 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 00:54:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26248 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 00:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 00:54:58 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.130.54] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AE2C63DF007A; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:54:04 +0100 From: roger buckley To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:46:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: I'm back! X-UIDL: 5357d7bc846f5c1c13b984bc5edf1899 From: roger buckley Hello Chris On 14-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Hi all, > > Well i'm back, at last. After a short weeks break in The Netherlands aka > Holland. Well the trip was fine, the flight was fine, the country is > great > and the holiday was excellent :) > I flew from Liverpool airport which is a bit hill-billy, ie. small :) But > the flight only takes an hour which isn't bad at all. You must have had a tail wind and I hope Liverpool Airport has improved from the mid sixties when the firm I used it. It was like Biggin Hill in '41 but with 2 more sheds! We used to fly British Caledonian DC3's to Schipol, Rotterdam, Bremen & Hamburg and back to take over fresh postings on Elder Dempster line ships. >I'm still not> completely sure I like the idea of flying, i've only flown these last > few years, it'll probably take a bit more to get used to. Nothing to it, just keep flapping your arms and ensure you've supped your pre-flight bottle of whiskey. > >> From the airport station we travelled to Amsterdam 'Centraal > Station' to catch a connecting train to our first destination. Back of the station used to be notorious for 'window-shopping' to suit all tastes. Wow all that black leather & whips. (Unfortuneatly that stuff doesn't fit me any more.) > Overall my holiday was great :) I love Holland especially > Amsterdam but Amsterdam is nothing like the rest of Holland. The strange thing about Amsterdam is naming their football team after a kitchen cleaner, weird. I once had a job interview in Amsterdam and as my mate and I arrived from Frankfurt at 8 o'clock in the evening, the interview was held in the bar of a strip club at midnight. Didn't get the job but we had a bloody good time on the expenses. Anyway good to see you back, the list has been pretty quiet of late. > > Toodle Pip! Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem and Citizen Swift Printer. I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 14 02:44:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08487 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:56:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 21432 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 18:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21415 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 18:54:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 18:54:31 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.40] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADB6282A00D6; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:56:06 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 02:44:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] sending sms messages X-UIDL: 2e44434096ce09e52931b89ee414d82c From: Chris Seward Stephen, On 06-Aug-99, you wrote: > i am having trouble sending sms messages to mobile phones. > i have tried verious programs including smsmaster. > smsmaster says could not open port. Dunno whats going on, sorry! But if anyone gets these SMS programs to work or websites then feel free to send an SMS message to me, on 07887 664 915 Its on the Vodafone network if thats needed :) Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now brings ICQ Instant Messaging to members For details, Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 14 15:10:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08491 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:56:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 21762 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 18:54:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21672 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 18:54:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 18:54:35 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.40] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADBA282A00D6; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:56:10 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:10:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: I'm back! X-UIDL: 0914406025114308c81783365d13a5d1 From: Chris Seward Hi Roger, On 14-Aug-99, you wrote: > You must have had a tail wind and I hope Liverpool Airport has improved from > the mid sixties when the firm I used it. It was like Biggin Hill in '41 but > with 2 more sheds! We used to fly British Caledonian DC3's to Schipol, > Rotterdam, Bremen & Hamburg and back to take over fresh postings on Elder > Dempster line ships. Well Liverpool airport is still a bit 'hill-billy' but its not far so it does the job for me :) > Back of the station used to be notorious for 'window-shopping' to suit all > tastes. Wow all that black leather & whips. (Unfortuneatly that stuff > doesn't fit me any more.) Not sure if I noticed that one! > The strange thing about Amsterdam is naming their football team after a > kitchen cleaner, weird. I once had a job interview in Amsterdam and as my > mate and I arrived from Frankfurt at 8 o'clock in the evening, the > interview was held in the bar of a strip club at midnight. Didn't get the > job but we had a bloody good time on the expenses. Well not exactly, the team came before the cleaner. The cleaner is also pronounced different so there you have it. I did goto the Ajax stadium and as I send in the email i send the list from Amsterdam is was great! you get to sit in the managers and team sideline chairs and walk right up to the pitch. > > Anyway good to see you back, the list has been pretty quiet of late. Yeah, I noticed that. Only 85 messages in 2 weeks. Better get shouting my mouth off on one or two topics then, huh? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist users: YOU can win a $100 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Check out the FRIENDS & FAMILY program to find out how. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 14 19:06:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08514 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:57:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 22429 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 18:55:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22410 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 18:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 18:55:34 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.40] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADF5282A00D6; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:57:09 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:06:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga video buffs read on... X-UIDL: 23a225d52fdc4a865b57ba08655bf5bc From: Chris Seward Hi Richard, On 01-Aug-99, you wrote: > Funny how this appeared in a PC mag (Computer Shopper) I'd not heard about > this before, either that or I'd missed it. The news section in this mag about > the Amiga is good, though old, even by Amiga Format standards. I often buy > computer shopper as it's good to keep up with what's happening on other > platforms. Yeah, thats what i thought. I posted it because I hadn't personally heard anything about it. I was expecting people to say thats old news but it appears not many people have heard of it. Is it a secret :)? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! 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For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 14 19:08:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08518 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:57:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 22603 invoked by alias); 14 Aug 1999 18:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 22568 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 18:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 18:55:37 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.40] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADF8282A00D6; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:57:12 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:08:20 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] MicroMart Amiga section update! X-UIDL: 66324cdf6808eca0d98ebfbb70378ab5 From: Chris Seward Dear Interested Parties :) For those of you who care, MicroMart say they would be interested in a 600 word news section once per month on the Amiga front for me to do. I guess its a good way to promote the Amiga into the general public so i'll keep you informed of where things are taken from here on. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk http://www.aio.co.uk Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Sun Aug 15 15:09:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16531 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:02:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 14896 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 1999 15:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 14890 invoked from network); 15 Aug 1999 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 1999 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.188] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 11G1fp-0007my-00; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:54:13 +0000 From: Ralph To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:09:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: sending sms messages X-UIDL: e8156d7aff7325de486528fde78a71e5 From: Ralph Hello Chris On 14-Aug-99, you wrote: snip--> > But if anyone gets these SMS programs to work or websites then > feel free to send an SMS message to me, on > > 07887 664 915 > > Its on the Vodafone network if thats needed :) > I will try it later , There is an sms prog called SMSMaster that does work , it's only draw back is that it only works on an Amiga internal ( orig) serial port Ralph --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Sun Aug 15 20:52:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30934 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:56:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 22996 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 14:53:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22925 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 14:53:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.callnetuk.com) (212.67.128.5) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 14:53:11 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.132.179] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A5711006011A; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:55:45 +0100 From: roger buckley To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] testing-ignore X-UIDL: 442120ea14f35c5c0c04358bb3757f0b From: roger buckley Hello, egroups mail is not getting through. One I sent myself did, so I'm just testing this one Kind regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem and Citizen Swift Printer. I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through August 20. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Mon Aug 16 16:13:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA32108 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:13:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 24104 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 16:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24096 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 16:11:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 16:11:17 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-24.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.27]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA19677 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:11:33 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:13:45 +1000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] [TA] Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 3080852db5a5f76d66cfe05de8df9db8 From: Colin Wenzel Sorry to cross post, but this has just surfaced on the TeamAmiga list. I thought you may like to know about it, if you don't already...! I don't know if it is real or not, maybe someone could shed some light on it... http://www.iwin-corp.com/Products/Servers_and_Workstations/Amiga_based/amiga_based.htm http://www.iwin-corp.com ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060 / 50Mhz 150Mb RAM. ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jonasth@bahnhof.se Mon Aug 16 17:05:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA00121 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:09:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 13884 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 17:07:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13814 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 17:07:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 17:07:25 -0000 Received: from JonasThorell (pm1-17.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.30]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA20933 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:07:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Jonas Thorell" To: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:05:29 +0200 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [just-amiga] [TA] Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 96ca1086db382df90be63e5aa2a0baa1 From: "Jonas Thorell" Colin Wenzel [mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au] wrote > Sorry to cross post, but this has just surfaced on the TeamAmiga list. > I thought you may like to know about it, if you don't already...! > I don't know if it is real or not, maybe someone could shed some > light on it... Considering the specs of one of them says it comes with a standard of 8 megs of chip, I'd say it's a hoax. /Jonas --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes! For details on ONElist’s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Aug 16 19:37:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01504 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:40:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 23530 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 1999 18:38:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23485 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:38:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:38:06 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.195.50]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24970 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:38:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: c6ecbaec4e478ea5630166944f9390b8 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Sorry to cross post, but this has just surfaced on the TeamAmiga list. >> I thought you may like to know about it, if you don't already...! > >> I don't know if it is real or not, maybe someone could shed some >> light on it... > > Considering the specs of one of them says it comes with a standard of 8 megs > of chip, I'd say it's a hoax. Isn't the picture of the A1010M actually one of those new IMac towers? Anyway, I think 8 megs of chip may be possible, (UAE does it) but the rest of it seems pretty unlikely, especially the 3D accellerator. But, I DARE someone to order one, that's the only way we'll really know :) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Nero's wife, Poppaea, kept 500 milking asses exclusively to keep her bath topped up. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist’s WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andreone@wantree.com.au Tue Aug 17 09:28:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA10232 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:37:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 4618 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 09:35:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4559 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 09:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mule.wantree.com.au) (203.27.235.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 09:35:45 -0000 Received: from wantree.com.au (p56F-153.wantree.com.au [203.12.223.153]) by mule.wantree.com.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA19380 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:35:44 +0800 From: Andre Wittkamp To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:28:05 +0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Bored with my Board! X-UIDL: 02fa9aac6b77287250320533520d5ab7 From: Andre Wittkamp Hi everyone, I am writing this letter because I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to expansion boards with the amiga 1200. I currently have an 'Act Apollo 1240' board that has an 040 chip, 32 Megs of Fast ram in it and runs at 25 Mhz (it also has a 68882 co-pro. thingy) What I wanted to know is how can I increase the Mhz (35+ would be cool) I've heard of overclocking, but am under the impression that this can damage the board if done incorrectly. What exactly is overclocking? Will it increase the temperature of my board, the board currently runs quite hot (it has its own tiny fan though), also I have already placed larger rubber stoppers under my keyboard to allow for more air flow and left the trapdoor cover off (I taped a fine synthetic mesh over the hole to keep out dust =) Any ideas? Does anyone also own this board who has already overclocked it successfully? Thank you for listening to my tale of woe, any help is most apprieciated. Contact me at : AndreONE@wantree.com.au .oO ANDRE Oo. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! http://www.onelist.com/store/tshirts.html With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue Aug 17 14:57:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16000 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:17:31 +0100 Received: from onelist.com by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [209.207.164.249]) id QQhcrb24260 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:57:06 GMT Received: (qmail 22065 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 14:56:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21876 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 14:56:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by 209.207.164.249 with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 14:56:23 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-58.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.61]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA10867 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:56:14 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Jonas Thorell Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:57:12 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: RE: [just-amiga] [TA] Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 4754a7edbbe8b388d54d76e02cda9f51 From: Colin Wenzel That in itself is nothing to disqualify it, all you need is 2 more address lines going to the "AGA-esque" chipset/registers & you can address 8 megs, add another one & you can do 16Mb.... It is obvious that it is not AGA, because that is copyright by Amiga. BUT - There is no copyright on making another chip that just happens to have the same registers in the same place... Maybe even more features than AGA, the thing only needs to have the same ones as the original Amiga to run the software though. The machine may just use a PC gfx card in a slot ?? With registers set up to make the software think its running on AGA, but just routing the data to the gfx card instead. ??? ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060 / 50Mhz 150Mb RAM. ---------------------------------------------------- On 17-Aug-99, Jonas Thorell wrote: >From: "Jonas Thorell" >Colin Wenzel [mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au] wrote >> Sorry to cross post, but this has just surfaced on the TeamAmiga list. >> I thought you may like to know about it, if you don't already...! >> I don't know if it is real or not, maybe someone could shed some >> light on it... >Considering the specs of one of them says it comes with a standard of 8 megs >of chip, I'd say it's a hoax. >/Jonas --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to online communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Tue Aug 17 16:20:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com ([209.207.164.245]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19044 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:14:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 10549 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 18:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10540 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 18:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by 209.207.164.245 with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 18:12:33 -0000 Received: from modem-85.platinum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.213] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Gnij-0006j6-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:12:25 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:20:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 82adda437bb78042de6f54061c997889 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Colin On 17-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Colin Wenzel > > That in itself is nothing to disqualify it, all you need is 2 more address > lines going to the "AGA-esque" chipset/registers & you can address 8 megs, > add another one & you can do 16Mb.... It is obvious that it is not AGA, > because that is copyright by Amiga. BUT - There is no copyright on making > another chip that just happens to have the same registers in the same > place... Maybe even more features than AGA, the thing only needs to have > the same ones as the original Amiga to run the software though. The BoXeR does this, does it not? Also, Iwin are rumoured to be after what's left of CBM, so maybe this is a hacked AAA? :-) Or do Amiga own this also? (Cor, 3 questions in one reply!) Regards, Sandy Brownlee ---------------------------------- Dr. Evil: "Guards, begin the unnecessarily slowly moving dipping mechanism" From the original Austin Powers --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Aug 17 19:25:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19424 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:47:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 17404 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 1999 18:46:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17304 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 18:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 18:45:59 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-077.enterprise.net [194.72.195.77]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA14617 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:45:31 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:25:49 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Info on Amiga Clones? (fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 7f91a3d9de930884ee475fe270648111 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > The machine may just use a PC gfx card in a slot ?? > With registers set up to make the software think its running on AGA, > but just routing the data to the gfx card instead. ??? I don't think so: A) AGA and GFX cards store the data in a totally different way (AGA panalar vs VGA chunky). B) The copper, blitter and other custom chips would have to be emulated or nothing would work. C) No PC card (AFAIK) supports all the stuff that AGA can do, H/W scrolling/vertical res switching etc. Anyway, that whole thing looks like a very late april fools, or just a stunt to get more hits on there web page? 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(fwd) (cross post) X-UIDL: 7c7e081483bb41b36e923f9f65098aad From: "Jonas Thorell" Colin Wenzel wrote: > > That in itself is nothing to disqualify it, all you need is 2 > more address lines going to the "AGA-esque" chipset/registers & you can > address 8 megs, add another one & you can do 16Mb.... In theory, yes. But what happens with the compatibility? Most stuff should run but I bet many games are a non-starter. Most modern stuff should run with 0 megabytes of chip even, if there's a gfx-card in there somewhere. 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unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 13:08:10 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.214] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A71B1F150154; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:10:03 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:24:08 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Wasted Dreams only =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A325.00?= X-UIDL: 059d15f57b74b58047694838092e23da From: Chris Seward Dear All, As UK Distributor of Wasted Dreams by Digital Dreams Entertainment I can bring you this special offer for Wasted Dreams priced, *JUST* : £25.00 inc p&p inside the UK A one off price of £25.00, going through an Amiga retailer will cost you £27.99 without p&p. If you are interested please contact me at, chris@dd-ent.com Orders outside the UK please contact, cvijan@dd-ent.com Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- How do you enter ONElist's WEEKLY DRAWING for $100? By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to Clickme.onelist.com/ad/Teaser114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 21 21:53:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21593 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:27:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 24337 invoked by alias); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 23872 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 22:17:42 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.169] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A6F162B0152; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:15:29 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:53:43 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] New AIO website, first glance! X-UIDL: 38f7a8f676af1a40d0fa9ef43da7555c From: Chris Seward Dear AIO go-ers, If your interested to see what the new AIO website will look like when it is back online in a few weeks then visit; http://www.aio.co.uk/sneakypeak.html I can't give a date for when the site will return because I need to get Conor Kerr to fax the .co.uk registration company to move the hosts. Pester him at, *ck@mystcorp.com* - he doesn't seem to be doing anything. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 21 18:55:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA22857 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 03:20:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 24316 invoked by alias); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23602 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 22:17:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 22:17:36 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.169] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A6EB62B0152; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:15:23 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Submit questions for AIO, Bjorn Lynne interview! X-UIDL: 0506960981cdc5df341978f5c18b06d4 From: Chris Seward Dear All, Amiga Information Online has secured an interview with the master of Amiga music, Mr. Bjorn Lynne. Famous for working on many computer game music titles, Bjorn Lynne is probably the most famous Amiga musician ever! If you have any questions you would like me to ask him then please email them to, *general@aio.co.uk* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From SnorsleX@Home.se Sun Aug 22 18:18:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29631 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:45:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 10695 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 1999 19:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5170 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.home.se) (195.66.45.71) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from home.se (Hiya@md469042e.utfors.se [212.105.4.46]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA16012 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:18:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Lorens Johansson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:18:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] PLEASE HELP with Wasted Dreams!!! X-UIDL: bc1aba9011781316be3065046f4bf087 From: Lorens Johansson Hi... Is there anyone that can help me in Wasted Dreams?? I'm COMPLETELY stuck!! :((( /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr 01D: System crash - We are unable to figure out our own code. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Aug 23 00:39:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA31935 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:12:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 995 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 00:10:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21289 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 23:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 23:44:41 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-075.enterprise.net [194.72.195.75]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27342 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:43:54 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:39:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PLEASE HELP with Wasted Dreams!!! X-UIDL: 9256ca1733a555060bd3427036a1086b From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Is there anyone that can help me in Wasted Dreams?? I'm COMPLETELY stuck!! > :((( Which bit? I'm up to that silly sewers bit... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as Odd Job /took his hat off/ for him. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! http://www.onelist.com Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Mon Aug 23 11:44:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA04618 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:46:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 2632 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 10:45:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2619 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 10:45:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 10:45:13 -0000 Received: from home.se (Hiya@md4690d34.utfors.se [212.105.13.52]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA26922 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:44:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Lorens Johansson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:44:51 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PLEASE HELP with Wasted Dreams!!! X-UIDL: 80f9021cc7b747d7f720e61324494ae8 From: Lorens Johansson Hi Andrew... >> Is there anyone that can help me in Wasted Dreams?? I'm COMPLETELY >> stuck!! :((( > > Which bit? I'm up to that silly sewers bit... I have killed everyone in the forest, and in the big "house" too... I have a few problems: Please don't tell me everything, just enough to get me going again!! · There is a bush the "he has the feeling there is something behind"... · And in the cave, it's a blue fire, how do I put that out?? I think that I must get one of the two cans that he doesn't wanna pick up! · How do I get behind the locked door by the shield recharger? · How do I get behind the door where I need higher ranks? · How do I get behind the door right next to the ventilation? · How do I get behind the door where two guards says no! ? Please, only answer on the things I need to get further!!! /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 MS-DOS Multitasking: Crashing both hard-drives at once.. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Why do WOMEN ASTRONAUTS have such BAD HAIRCUTS? What happens if you CLEAN your self-cleaning OVEN? The DR. has answers:Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Mon Aug 23 13:49:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.247]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07203 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:51:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 32700 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 13:49:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 32695 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 13:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.asdo.com) (194.218.132.34) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 13:49:47 -0000 Received: from seg0204.asdo.se (seg0204.asdo.se [194.132.65.86]) by mail.asdo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14131 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:50:26 +0100 (GMT) From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Received: by seg0204.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:49:04 +0200 Message-ID: To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:49:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: RE: [just-amiga] Bored with my Board! X-UIDL: ea6844b5aeb9201094c88707b8b2a3db From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > Andre Wittkamp wrote: > >I am writing this letter because I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to >expansion boards with the amiga 1200. I currently have an 'Act Apollo 1240' >board that has an 040 chip, 32 Megs of Fast ram in it and runs at 25 Mhz (it >also has a 68882 co-pro. thingy) What I wanted to know is how can I increase >the Mhz (35+ would be cool) I've heard of overclocking, but am under the >impression that this can damage the board if done incorrectly. What exactly >is overclocking? Usually you change the oscillator to one with higher MHz but it's kind of controversial. >Will it increase the temperature of my board Yes it will. >, the board >currently runs quite hot (it has its own tiny fan though), also I have already >placed larger rubber stoppers under my keyboard to allow for more air flow and >left the trapdoor cover off (I taped a fine synthetic mesh over the hole to >keep out dust =) >Any ideas? Does anyone also own this board who has already overclocked it >successfully? Look at http://www.starnet.com.au/davem/amiga.html. There you'll find some more info. Magnus The electric chair choice: Regular or Extra Crispy --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com! If you join ONElist's FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Aug 23 20:20:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12178 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:24:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 8080 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 19:22:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7983 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 19:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 19:22:16 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-009.enterprise.net [194.72.195.129]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17464 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:22:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:20:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PLEASE HELP with Wasted Dreams!!! X-UIDL: f90377b05c3de2974992eeb24b75992c From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I have killed everyone in the forest, and in the big "house" too... > > I have a few problems: > > Please don't tell me everything, just enough to get me going again!! > · There is a bush the "he has the feeling there is something behind"... Do stuff to it, I can't remember what. (he clears the bushes away...) You need whats behind it. > · And in the cave, it's a blue fire, how do I put that out?? I think > that I must get one of the two cans that he doesn't wanna pick up! You don't do that bit for a while yet... > · How do I get behind the locked door by the shield recharger? Where? It sounds like you've already got through it \/ > · How do I get behind the door where I need higher ranks? Go to the top room, get the person at the bar's locker key and open his locker, put his uniform on. > · How do I get behind the door right next to the ventilation? you can't do that until the previous bit /\ > · How do I get behind the door where two guards says no! ? that's even further into the future :) Hope that helps. I didn't want to spoil it too much, so if you have probs with the later bits too then I could give you a hand with those as well. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he mistook the liquefied stool sample for his cup of coffee. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Mon Aug 23 22:11:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.245]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13839 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:28:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 11987 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 1999 21:27:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11967 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 21:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 21:27:14 -0000 Received: from home.se (Hiya@md4690ad6.utfors.se [212.105.10.214]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07028 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:26:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Lorens Johansson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Wasted Dreams Again :))) X-UIDL: 0448d7080e2a421395b25ce1f85dc017 From: Lorens Johansson Hi Andrew... You said that you where stuck in the sewers?? Is that the place where energy waves sweeps by?? Then I'm stuck there too :) Did you use the bomb somewhere earlier? Did you kill the man you got the High Priority card from? (Depending on which card you give him!) So, then we're both stuck, I have NO idea on how to flee from the energy waves, seems there's no way of escaping! :( And two waves kills me :( /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 Windows NT = Windows Nice Try... --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Aug 24 01:02:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA15530 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:05:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 12336 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 00:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12247 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 00:02:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 00:02:57 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-006.enterprise.net [194.72.197.66]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09258 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:03:33 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:02:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Wasted Dreams Again :))) X-UIDL: 558572820f5f516e54e4ddb2c52f2df4 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > You said that you where stuck in the sewers?? Is that the place where energy > waves sweeps by?? Then I'm stuck there too :) way past that. > Did you use the bomb somewhere earlier? I won't spoil it for you yet.... > Did you kill the man you got the High Priority card from? (Depending on > which card you give him!) Yep. > So, then we're both stuck, I have NO idea on how to flee from the energy > waves, seems there's no way of escaping! :( And two waves kills me :( Ok, in the top right screen, you find the wall along the top that doesn't have a generator on it, then use the pickaxe on it. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - "Bother," said Pooh, as he wandered into the meat slicer. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andreone@wantree.com.au Tue Aug 24 07:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA18322 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:23:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 21686 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 07:21:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 21579 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 07:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mule.wantree.com.au) (203.27.235.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 07:21:26 -0000 Received: from wantree.com.au (p56A-99.wantree.com.au [203.12.222.99]) by mule.wantree.com.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA32206 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:21:10 +0800 From: Andre Wittkamp To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:13:18 +0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Free Emulators! X-UIDL: d065c9f428cb4e36e534303acf0b9bc9 From: Andre Wittkamp Hi everyone, Some of you will probably already know this but I just wanted to inform everyone that a certain Mr. J.A. Gomez of Spain is giving away his keyfiles and full programmes for free, he simply states on his home page that he has left the computer world and that his work is for the Amiga community!!! He has these: - AmiGameBoy (Gameboy Duh) - AmiMasterGear (Sega 8-bit) - AmiMSX2 (Similar to C64) Note that the above are all very complete and very quick they all run full speed and sometimes even too fast on my 25MHz 040, and that is even with Workbench and Ibrowse running!!!! What damn fine emulators! I guess if you ran em without booting WB (no startup-sequence) then even a mild mannered 030 would do. - AmiPCEngine - AmiNes (NES 8-bit) These two are not complete, however they still run graphics (to a certain extent) and if anyone has the know-how to complete them , Gomez is even giving away the sources at this web site : HTTP://WWW.Arrakis.es/~joanant (this is where they can all be found at) Happy gaming everyone! Contact me at : AndreONE@wantree.com.au .oO ANDRE Oo. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Aug 24 18:53:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.249]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28263 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:58:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 2667 invoked by alias); 24 Aug 1999 17:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 1733 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 17:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 17:55:08 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-051.enterprise.net [194.72.196.51]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18505 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:55:07 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:53:31 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Free Emulators! X-UIDL: 179168ac55fb87f82a6e000fc1dd174e From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > > Note that the above are all very complete and very quick they all run full > speed and sometimes even too fast on my 25MHz 040, and that is even with > Workbench and Ibrowse running!!!! What damn fine emulators! I guess if you > ran em without booting WB (no startup-sequence) then even a mild mannered 030 > would do. Technical point: (sorry, being picky) Workbench and Ibrowse were NOT running in the background, his emulators disable multitasking, therefor are quite fast. > These two are not complete, however they still run graphics (to a certain > extent) and if anyone has the know-how to complete them , Gomez is even giving > away the sources at this web site : Shame he hasn't released the sources to the other emulators so that other authors can finish them. ah well. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players! - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - The average ice berg weighs 20,000,000 tons. --The Miscellanea Digest --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and CONNECT to people with the same interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Wed Aug 25 20:10:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA14371 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:13:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 13444 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 19:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13439 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 19:09:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 19:09:39 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as4-dial43.pntc.mi.voyager.net [209.153.138.43]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id PAA16097 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack York To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:10:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] (no subject) X-UIDL: d1f82b91a1762ef49f3cd84f0498fa20 From: Jack York Hello, Has anyone been able to get the real audio player RAPlay to work? According to SnoopDos it is failing when looking for the tsocket.library. This isn't mentioned in the docs nor can I find it on Aminet. Jack --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members, don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist! Join our community member news update ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Wed Aug 25 22:14:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.249]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA16909 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:15:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 14244 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 22:13:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14234 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 22:13:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.121.49) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 22:13:48 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust219.tnt1.london.ky.da.uu.net [208.250.93.219]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29217 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Marion E. Wyatt" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (no subject) X-UIDL: 55daeeeadf86adf00ae49d280cccb8e0 From: "Marion E. Wyatt" On 25-Aug-99 at 16:10:16, Jack York wrote these words of wisdom: > From: Jack York > Has anyone been able to get the real audio player RAPlay to work? > According to SnoopDos it is failing when looking for the > tsocket.library. This isn't mentioned in the docs nor can I > find it on Aminet. I haven't got any RealAudio player for Amiga to work. -- Marion E. 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For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From pamiga@channel1.com Wed Aug 25 22:25:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA17026 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:27:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 6845 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1999 22:25:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5687 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 22:23:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO user1.channel1.com) (199.1.13.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 22:23:34 -0000 Received: from channel1.com (pamiga@xdial30.channel1.com [205.240.180.30]) by user1.channel1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18874 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:24:37 -0400 (EDT) From: peter mysliwy To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:25:02 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (no subject) X-UIDL: b5ca5ec34fcb7e885c422e2240e65cd1 From: peter mysliwy Hello Marion tsocket is the socket library for termite. On 25-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: "Marion E. Wyatt" > > On 25-Aug-99 at 16:10:16, Jack York wrote these words of wisdom: >> From: Jack York > >> Has anyone been able to get the real audio player RAPlay to work? >> According to SnoopDos it is failing when looking for the >> tsocket.library. This isn't mentioned in the docs nor can I >> find it on Aminet. > > I haven't got any RealAudio player for Amiga to work. > Regards -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -- Mark Twain --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu Aug 26 16:08:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29403 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:09:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 31753 invoked by alias); 26 Aug 1999 16:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 31703 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 16:07:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 16:07:24 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (2269 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:08:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (no subject) X-UIDL: bfc06ea128f1d7a4ed3eb1b786083cda From: Pat Kushko On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Jack York wrote: > From: Jack York > > Hello, > > Has anyone been able to get the real audio player RAPlay to work? > According to SnoopDos it is failing when looking for the > tsocket.library. This isn't mentioned in the docs nor can I > find it on Aminet. Jack There's a number of issues and factors to get this running properly (and some might say hardly worth the effort).I'm not sure if the support site at http://csc.smsu.edu/~strauser/RA.html is still alive, but you might have a look. RAPlay is just the decoder and needs a .RA file, most unfortunately are some other incarnation. There's also optimized versions for 030/FPU etc around... so you have to have the correct decoder, not to mention if the file is using 28.8K or 14.4K baud and of course your CPU has to be able to handle the file decoding or you'll get a lot of dead air. I debugged this whole set-up using the ra player from a shell on a known .ra file in ram: and then using the optimized settings for my configuration, tuned this up for the web. I use it inconjuction with my browser and set up the same sucessful .ra in a local web link and configured the optimal web settings using a pipe something like c:ra >AUDIO:B/16/F/8000/T/SIGNED filename It's clear my Amiga needs a somewhat faster CPU to really appreciate Real Audio. But if you can get it working from a shell, then there's no reason it shouldn't work streaming into a pipe from the web. from what I've seen of the RAplay script on Aminet, it looks like it's an update of the script included on AFCD38 (April issue) and might require the full original and a version of RXsocket.library. If the script doesn't work out of the box... either try modifying it, contact the author, or set-up RA as I did through the browser. -- Creative Solutions -Art for the visual industry- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Show your ONElist SPIRIT! Click Here With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Fri Aug 27 23:57:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18342 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:11:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 10378 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10364 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:10:37 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.213] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACDE6A6018E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:10:38 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com, amos-list@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:57:40 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list amos-list@onelist.com; contact amos-list-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list amos-list@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: amos-list@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [amos-list] Anyone got Willy Beamish? X-UIDL: 1901b02a03d23761328b6ce746a9f5a1 From: Chris Seward Dear All, Does anyone have the original of a point and click adventure similar to Monkey Islands called *Willy Beamish* by Sierra? I can't remember when it was released but probably some time between 1991-1994. I'm only looking to buy the original so if anyone has it and is willing to sell it please contact me. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html From amiga@thefree.net Fri Aug 27 23:57:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18363 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:12:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 21317 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19125 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:09:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:09:03 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.213] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACCF6A6018E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:10:23 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:57:13 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Digital Cameras X-UIDL: c81f78d7a4d804ee7119f954f2f629ab From: Chris Seward Dear People, I know someone asked this question a few weeks ago but can anyone recommend a good quality camera for under £300? I really don't want to spend over £300 just for a Digital Camera. If anyone has one that cost them under £300 that is of course available in the UK can they show me a true picture that they've taken with it, not an edited and processed one. If you can recommend one and have an example photo then please send it to, amiga@thefree.net Thanks Toodle Doo! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Fri Aug 27 23:57:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18369 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:13:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 22334 invoked by alias); 27 Aug 1999 23:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19577 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:09:14 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.213] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACD96A6018E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:10:33 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:57:32 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: fbc328c0a2cb692c29162d52f9feb3a4 From: Chris Seward Does anyone know where you can get the music to the film Hackers which was released to the end of 1995? At the end of the film it mentions the music can be bought from somewhere or another but I can't make it out. Anyone got any ideas? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations to Susan Davis! ONElist’s final FRIENDS&FAMILY WINNER! Stay tuned for exciting new contests, sweepstakes & more at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jong@home.nl Sat Aug 28 07:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22201 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:34:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 6186 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 08:33:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 6178 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 08:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com) (212.120.66.198) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 08:33:00 -0000 Received: from home.nl ([212.120.96.77]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990828083257.PMQE25896.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@home.nl> for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:32:57 +0200 Message-ID: <37C79162.AA064511@home.nl> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:36:02 +0200 From: Mark de Jong Organization: @Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHomeNL0405 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Anyone got Willy Beamish? X-UIDL: 0b9c1ec664312ec229dc07d6550c249e From: Mark de Jong Chris Seward wrote: > > From: Chris Seward > > Dear All, > > Does anyone have the original of a point and click adventure similar > to Monkey Islands called *Willy Beamish* by Sierra? Not me, but if you don't find someone who got it you could try to ask for it on the comp.sys.amiga.games newsgroup. -- Mark de Jong - Members of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #amos, #amiga, #amigaexotic EMail: jong@home.nl URL: http://altern.org/amigafan --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS! Are you getting your ONElist news? If not, join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From chrisgreen@insightonline.clara.co.uk Sat Aug 28 10:08:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23097 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:05:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 18234 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 10:03:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18222 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 10:03:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oracle.clara.net) (195.8.69.94) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 10:03:23 -0000 Received: from [195.8.92.157] (helo=insightonline) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KfKc-00052R-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:03:30 +0100 From: "Chris Green" To: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:08:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [just-amiga] Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: 2443c1ca021bf53c48da64ff62ce2926 From: "Chris Green" Hi Chris > Does anyone know where you can get the music to the film Hackers > which was released to the end of 1995? > At the end of the film it mentions the music can be bought from somewhere > or another but I can't make it out. Yeah - any and every decent record shop. If they don't have some filed under 'Hackers' in their soundtracks section, they can order it for you! Chris Green Technical Editor Computing --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From peter@amigauni.u-net.com Sat Aug 28 11:07:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23905 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:13:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 24072 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 11:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24065 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 11:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 11:11:56 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.121] (helo=amigauni) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 11KgIW-0002ZU-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:05:25 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:07:10 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://www.amigauni.u-net.com/images/photo-peter.gif" Organization: Amiga Universe UnLtd. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: 426ca082c208d2b6eff5c9b4747e68cb From: Peter Price Chris Seward didst speaketh about [just-amiga] Hackers, the film. Music!? herein. So I reply: > Does anyone know where you can get the music to the film Hackers > which was released to the end of 1995? My brother has it, he had to get it ordered in from across the Atlantic though. If you've got a Solid Sounds near you somewhere, they should be able to sort it out. -- Peter Price Gone, but not forgotten - A²? Man with athletic fingers make broad jump. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wayne@here.is Sat Aug 28 16:36:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26777 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:41:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 24653 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 16:38:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24628 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 16:38:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 16:38:55 -0000 Received: from wayne.here.is (pyrah@cheese6.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.106]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA10729 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:09:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - H y p e r B o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:36:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: http://here.is/wayne Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: 309633e85d23a60dcd07045eb6624189 From: Wayne Pyrah - H y p e r B o y - Hi Chris On 28-Aug-99, you wrote: > Does anyone know where you can get the music to the film Hackers > which was released to the end of 1995? > At the end of the film it mentions the music can be bought from somewhere > or another but I can't make it out. > Anyone got any ideas? Hi Chris As far as I know you can get the soundtrack from any good record shop. My mate got a copy from Virgin in Nottingham about a year ago. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ H y p e r B o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - [ H y p e r B o y ] - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England, UK > Direct Fax : +44 870 740 2523 - Voicemail Service : +44 7050 687 956 < > One2One Mobile Email Service : smswayne@here.is - max 1000 letters < -+-+- Visit my new improved website today @ #http://here.is/wayne# -+-+- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Congratulations GENEVINCENT. Our latest ONElist of the week. For full story and to submit yours, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 28 19:27:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA28014 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:03:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 8886 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 19:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8878 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 19:01:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 19:01:26 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.237] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A43E1E9E0266; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:02:38 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:27:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: ceaac10cc5599ee8370d9bca7340c75c From: Chris Seward Peter, On 28-Aug-99, you wrote: > My brother has it, he had to get it ordered in from across the Atlantic > though. If you've got a Solid Sounds near you somewhere, they should be > able to sort it out. Thanks! Also sorry to hear about Amiga Uni. What are you going to do with the domain name? If you've had the problems I have you'll never get it moved off fast hosts! Regards -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist members: don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist Join our community member news update at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sat Aug 28 23:52:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA29994 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:56:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 10119 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 22:54:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 10109 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 22:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 22:54:21 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.6] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AAD66D5A0206; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:55:34 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:52:41 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: 4ba05919ec30dd1491ab6c594abfa702 From: Chris Seward Hi, Does anyone use AmiComSys? I've just used AmiComSys for the first time and i went into the hotline bit but there was noone there, do you have to join channels like on IRC? Does noone use it or isn't it always full or something? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Why do WOMEN ASTRONAUTS have such BAD HAIRCUTS? What happens if you CLEAN your self-cleaning OVEN? The DR. has answers:Click ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From alden1@airmail.net Sat Aug 28 23:23:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30237 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:25:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 12804 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 23:23:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12768 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 23:23:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 23:23:33 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.16.37] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.405) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 28 Aug 99 18:24:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: 26f9bbf4edcebe7a0d65c1a5d55c52dd From: Jon Peterson Hello Chris On 28-Aug-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > Hi, > Does anyone use AmiComSys? > I've just used AmiComSys for the first time and i went into the hotline > bit but there was noone there, do you have to join channels like on > IRC? You have only the one channel I think. You can branch off into private chats. Program worked very well. > Does noone use it or isn't it always full or something? Yep. You're right. 'Tis a bit dull. Don't think anyone is using it much anymore since ICQ seems to be pretty well working. The thing about ACS was that it was only Amiga users. No ability to access anyone outside. Hope Hakan is still active with his programming. Very nice work on a number of programs in addition to ACS. I just got off and, as you said, no one there...... Regards --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS! Are you getting your ONElist news? If not, join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From peter@amigauni.u-net.com Sat Aug 28 21:27:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30291 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:32:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 1498 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 23:30:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1492 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 23:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 23:30:18 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.111] (helo=amigauni) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 11KrpZ-0005Rr-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:24:18 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:27:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="http://www.amigauni.u-net.com/images/photo-peter.gif" Organization: Amiga Universe UnLtd. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hackers, the film. Music!? X-UIDL: e3683a88e5f7da6ea67c8653f760e597 From: Peter Price Chris Seward didst speaketh about Re: [just-amiga] Re: Hackers, the film. Music!? herein. So I reply: >> My brother has it, he had to get it ordered in from across the >> Atlantic though. If you've got a Solid Sounds near you somewhere, >> they should be able to sort it out. > Thanks! No problem. > Also sorry to hear about Amiga Uni. What are you going to do with the > domain name? At the moment, the site is undergoing a huge rethink with regards to how it'll work and what we'll provide. It's looking likely that we'll be registering a second domain name, then running the site on both. > If you've had the problems I have you'll never get it moved off fast > hosts! It's going to take a while apparently. Best Regards -- Peter Price Gone, but not forgotten - A²? TOWER: "Say position." PILOT: "Position." --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Sun Aug 29 00:51:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30433 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:54:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 5329 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 1999 23:52:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 5318 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@as1-dial157.pntc.mi.voyager.net [216.93.44.157]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id TAA03665 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack York To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] ReadAudio thanks X-UIDL: e6437f9ab1a9fe628f3ed1b02b8ee779 From: Jack York Hello, To conserve messages, I want to say thanks to all of those that responded to my question about getting RealAudio to work. I did get it working but it turns out to only work on the older type of files. And while there are quite a few out there, apparently most are not recognized by the program. :( Jack --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Transfer your big list to ONElist and earn $500! For program details, go to Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From kwdjc@wf.net Sun Aug 29 00:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA30574 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:17:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 24199 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 00:15:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 24166 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14990 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (12.5.164.12) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 19:15:56 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: 673dd25c38a845fecacbb6ce19240504 From: Kenneth Craig Hello Chris, On 28-Aug-99, Chris Seward wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Hi, > > Does anyone use AmiComSys? > > I've just used AmiComSys for the first time and i went into the > hotline bit but there was noone there, do you have to join channels > like on IRC? > > Does noone use it or isn't it always full or something? > I frequent there sometimes but not much since we now have Stricq. The hotline does not have channels. It is a very fine program but was kind of messed up by a guy that was a nut named cooksey. We used to have a bunch of fun there but he just about drove everybody away. Maybe I will see you there. Kenneth -- The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net UIN 12669981 --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! For details and to order, go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Aug 29 04:47:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA31992 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:47:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 10991 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 04:45:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10969 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:45:31 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-60.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.63]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09210 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:45:26 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Chris Seward Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:47:15 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: a18ce03df53d82cb5426109ff19d80b9 From: Colin Wenzel On 29-Aug-99, Chris Seward wrote: >From: Chris Seward >Hi, Does anyone use AmiComSys? I pop it up occasionally, but there is seldom more than 3 people there. ICQ has taken over mostly... ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060 / 50Mhz 150Mb RAM. ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Aug 29 04:51:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.243]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA32019 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:52:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 8698 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 04:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 8587 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:50:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:50:23 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-60.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.63]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09273 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:50:18 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Kenneth Craig Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:51:53 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: d823ca7b10babb724e9bb479957ccbef From: Colin Wenzel On 29-Aug-99, Kenneth Craig wrote: >From: Kenneth Craig >I frequent there sometimes but not much since we now have Stricq. >The hotline does not have channels. >It is a very fine program but was kind of messed up by a guy >that was a nut named cooksey. >We used to have a bunch of fun there but he just about >drove everybody away. >Maybe I will see you there. >Kenneth I have heard his name poping up all over the place too, Does anyone know the full story, what is his problem....?? Can someone fill me in, I havn't had the privilage first hand. ---------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Queensland, Australia. EMAIL: colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060 / 50Mhz 150Mb RAM. ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Sun Aug 29 06:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA32186 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:29:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 1604 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 05:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1567 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 05:27:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 05:27:46 -0000 Received: from icon-19.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-19.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.19]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA15709 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: 29 Aug 99 00:28:10 -0600 From: "William F. Maddock" To: "Jack York" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <959.910T548T282933wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Liquid Audio [was: ReadAudio thanks] X-UIDL: 53862f76c215cbc6fdf61e25b78ff566 From: "William F. Maddock" On 28-Aug-99 18:51:23 jyork@voyager.net Jack York wrote: >From: Jack York >Hello, >To conserve messages, I want to say thanks to all of those that >responded to my question about getting RealAudio to work. I did get it >working but it turns out to only work on the older type of files. And >while there are quite a few out there, apparently most are not >recognized by the program. :( Does anyone know of a Liquid Audio player for the Amiga? There are a couple of files I'd like to get at, but I won't waste the time, if there's no player for the Amiga. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 29-Aug-99 00:26:36 CDT Jesus Saves mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6 Registered User Number 1621 -- Job 9:8 He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS: Get your ONElist news! Join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sun Aug 29 11:51:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01614 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:09:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 2079 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 11:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2069 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 11:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 11:07:16 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.119] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A68B67C016A; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:08:11 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:51:39 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] (fwd) Alive Mediasoft news X-UIDL: 3a6936a8f9e0722b5af68f27283dee14 From: Chris Seward Just some news from Alive Mediasoft.. thought you may all want to see.. or not :)?! Although Alive did kindly send me the Prophet patch of 300k email but no review copy, NICE! *---SNIP--- * Hello, Alive is no longer just a games company. From September 1st we are now offering utilities, hardware and serious software. Our publishing house is also in developement with several serious applications. The first to be released is a product we have just signed the distribution rights for this week. The developement team is an Italian company called Darkage Software. The product is Extreme. Extreme is a brand new program that is essential to anyone involved in creating visual demos or video titling on their Amiga. Whether you are new to the demo scene or an old pro, Darkage has created Extreme with an interface so user friendly it will make your life so much easier. Using Extreme you can create state-of-art visuals involving complex animated background animations. Anyone who has dabled in demos will be glas to hear that Extreme is controlled with the click of a button. *Extreme* is available on CD or *Extreme 1.5* is available on Floppy disk. Extreme 1.5 floppy version £9.99 Extreme CD £14.99 *Extreme Features:* 100% Assembler Coding Fully Multitasking Optimised Routines For 68020, 030, 040 &060 Real Time Calculated Effects Mixable Textures And Effects Highly Customisable Effects Pal Ntsc & CyberGFX Compatible Save Frames As IFF *Extreme CD Only* More Than 200 added Textures The Programs To Conveart Your own IFF Pictures into Extreme Textures Bippya-A New Tool To Genenerate New Wonderful Textures To Use In Extreme Already Saved Animations To use In Your Productions and much more. *_/New Exereme Demo Out Soon*/_ */_Extreme Out Septermer 99*/_ As we are still commited to Amiga gaming we will release 2 new games in September The first is to be *Goal 2000* I'm not going to give you a run down of the features in Goal 2000 as it is meaningless because Goal is quite simply the best Amiga Football game ever! We have been working on the 2000 version for about 8 months now and I have been playing it for about 3 years, so I know a thing or two about it (and also happen to be the world champion Goal player!) As the owner of Alive, I am looking forward to releasing Goal more than any other project. I will not bother to compare Goal to any other footy game because they don't deserve to be on the same E-Mail. Just be prepared...it's coming! _/*GOAL 2000 £14.99*/_ The Second is to be *Apano Sin* A new Top View Shoot-Em-Up. More news on this very soon.... And that's not all as Alive will now be selling Hardware and Serious Software, The Pulse will go up to 24 pages, so no games will be lost. And best of all - it's still completely FREE!! The Pulse Issue 6 will be out the first week in September and it includes: *Game Reviews* T-Zero Wasted Dreams Virtual GP Imperator Red Mars *Classic Reviews* Capital Punishment Zeewolf 2 *Buyers Guid*e Directory Opus Magellan 2 Paloma IV TV card for Picasso *NEWS* Worms Armourgeddon Heretic II Nightlong The Amiga NG /and so much more/ ----------------------------------------------- DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE PENALISED FREE P&P THROUGHOUT UK&IRELAND PART OF THE ALIVE NEW SERVICE Kind regards Steven Flowers Director. ALIVE mediasoft THE BIGGEST RANGE OF AMIGA GAME IN THE WORLD WE'RE ALL YOU WILL EVER NEED The only 100% Amiga company TEL: +44 (0)1623 467 579 FAX: +44 (0)1623 467 579 Email: stevenalive@innotts.co.uk www.innotts.co.uk/alive-mediasoft Address: PO BOX 940 NOTTINGHAM NG17 7FA ENGLAND *---SNIP---* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTENTION ONElist MEMBERS! Are you getting your ONElist news? If not, join our MEMBER NEWSLETTER here: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sun Aug 29 12:17:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01703 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:21:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 6295 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 11:19:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6289 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 11:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 11:19:31 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.119] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A96B331F014E; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:20:27 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:17:40 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Issue 27, August 1999 out now! X-UIDL: 528db018ab2468983468a014b316ddb2 From: Chris Seward Dear Readers, Amiga Information Online Issue 27, August 1999 has now been released! You can find the latest issue of AIO at, http://www.aio.co.uk Aminet:Docs/Mags/AIOV27.lha If you experience problems with the above website then you can also download it from :- #http://members.xoom.com/aionet/# Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! http://www.onelist.com/ad/nextcard1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@thefree.net Sun Aug 29 12:20:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01723 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:23:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 7492 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 1999 11:21:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7485 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 11:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 11:21:52 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.119] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9F7990702A4; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:22:47 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:20:00 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AmiComSys X-UIDL: c9179c788e0a0e4711c3217ba931e559 From: Chris Seward Hey All, Thanks everyone for your help. Its a GREAT program this. Some person called tOm is on but he refuses to chat. There are three people on now. Must just have been noone on last night. Well look out for AIOeditor. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward - Editor, Amiga Information Online *URL* : http://www.aio.co.uk / *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ONElist: your connection to people who share your interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Mon Aug 30 14:31:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop1.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14321 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:33:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 10302 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 1999 14:31:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10291 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.123) by pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:31:45 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust98.tnt1.london.ky.da.uu.net [208.250.93.98]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA15345 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:31:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Marion E. Wyatt" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:31:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AmiComSys lark X-UIDL: 4d2aaef2b9b79c6fcd41e6e342217b96 From: "Marion E. Wyatt" On 28-Aug-99 at 19:23:33, Jon Peterson wrote these words of wisdom: > From: Jon Peterson >> From: Chris Seward > >> Hi, > >> Does anyone use AmiComSys? > >> I've just used AmiComSys for the first time and i went into the hotline >> bit but there was noone there, do you have to join channels like on >> IRC? > > You have only the one channel I think. You can branch off into private > chats. Program worked very well. Right it is one "big" channel:) >> Does noone use it or isn't it always full or something? > > Yep. You're right. 'Tis a bit dull. Don't think anyone is using it much > anymore since ICQ seems to be pretty well working. The thing about ACS was > that it was only Amiga users. No ability to access anyone outside. Hope > Hakan is still active with his programming. Very nice work on a number of > programs in addition to ACS. > I just got off and, as you said, no one there...... I pop in occasionally, but lately there haven't been many people online AmiComSys, so I usually leave afterwards. -- Marion E. Wyatt AMIGA3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.1 138MB 1GB ZIP100 mwyatt@kih.net / // / I support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! __ __ / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member \ \\ \/ // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\_/_//_/ and * * A M I G A * * My homepage * http://www.users.kih.net/~mwyatt Amiga Connexion * http://www.users.kih.net/~mwyatt/AmigaConnexion.html --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jyork@voyager.net Tue Aug 31 16:32:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29562 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:36:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 16725 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 15:35:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16719 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 15:35:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 15:35:16 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (as1-dial50.pntc.mi.voyager.net [216.93.44.50]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id LAA01581 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack York To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Inkjet refils X-UIDL: fd95cd448706aab24b3390b74bf56899 From: Jack York Hello, Has anyone had any experience with inkjet refil kits? Do they work without causing problems? Is there a better way to go? Jack --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dlbenson@psnw.com Tue Aug 31 16:56:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA31475 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:44:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 15586 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 1999 17:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15537 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 17:42:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 17:42:34 -0000 Received: from psnw.com (root@vct1-10.psnw.com [206.43.240.33]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA05857 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Don and Lynn Benson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Inkjet refils X-UIDL: e72f87891cf0106b56a037d496dc662d From: Don and Lynn Benson Hi Jack On 31-Aug-99, Jack York wrote: > From: Jack York > > Hello, > > Has anyone had any experience with inkjet refil kits? Do they > work without causing problems? Is there a better way to go? > I have used refils in the past with my HP550C printer and they worked out okay. The black worked much better than the color. With the HP the kit came with a way to drill a hole in the top of the cartridge and simply fill the cart. They furnished a plug for the hole. Okay, but messy! I did it over the kitchen sink after learning my lesson. Working carefully was an absolute necessity. NO rushing the job. Color carts. were another matter. One kit I tried `popped' the top of the cartridge off. Another drilled 3 holes. The 3 hole version was inadvisable. The problem is that the space above the 3 color tanks is open. So if you fill a color too fast it spills over into the adjacent color. You have to fill it so slow that you can go crazy. With the popped top you can see what you are doing, but it isn't any faster. Also the colors are different from the manufacturer's colors. So if you have calibrated your color printing it will be off. I have not tried the kits with any other kind of printer. I got my color kits from MEI/Micro Center. They also have lower priced cartridges for some printers. They have a web site: http://www.mei-microcenter.com They also have a 800 #: 1-800-634-3478 Hope this helps. ----- Don --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- You can WIN $100 to Amazon.com by starting a new list at ONElist. Drawing is held each week through September 17. For details go to: Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk