These are all the messages posted to the JUST-AMiGA mailing list in April 1999. Signed. Chris Seward JUST-AMiGA Moderator and Editor of Amiga Information Online For help or more information email :- chris@aio.co.uk or read JOIN-JA.txt that came with this archive for details on joining this mailing list! ************** HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK ************** From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue Apr 04 13:26:34 1978 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26029 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:00:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 24641 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 18:09:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24613 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 18:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 18:09:21 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p030.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.94]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA16700; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:02:46 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1978 00:26:34 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Zip Compatability X-UIDL: be781c9150c76d2f1aaddf724e6eaaff From: Rick Giles There's a point, are Zip disks compatable between us and a PC? Or Mac? Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- Don't tell me there's no hope at all, together we stand, divided we fall. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: A free email community service ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 03 14:16:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02480 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:34:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 623 invoked by alias); 3 Apr 1999 18:29:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 617 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 18:29:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 18:29:23 -0000 Received: from modem-123.protactinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.45.123] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10TVI9-0003JR-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:37:13 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:16:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: See throughs disks? X-UIDL: 728d57a96ff93006ae8b91895f8e1370 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 02-Apr-99, you wrote: > Does anyone remember the demo of Cannon Fodder from an old Amiga > Format, it also had a game called Cannon Soccer where you killed the > Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came > on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you > can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a > computer show about 4 years ago but as the big Amiga shows don't > run anymore any idea if anyone sells them? I've got a few, red green and blue from amiga format, very nice. Oh and of course you aint getting them ;) like gold dust... Regards -- HTTP://www.myamiga.freeserve.co.uk/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Yo mama is like a shotgun, one cock and she's ready to blow! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come check out our brand new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Making the Internet intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 03 15:32:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21475 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:34:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 19099 invoked by alias); 3 Apr 1999 21:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 19016 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 21:13:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 21:13:05 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.250] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB6884300092; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 21:34:48 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:32:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990328170946.16082.rocketmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hacker, Cracker Or just Confused ???? X-UIDL: c82c9e4e70939d3ca7b8061f1926927a From: Chris Seward Ian, On 28-Mar-99, you wrote: > and Mis-quoting CS > people who consider themselves to be hackers must > have not of been able to excell in all subjects at school. > then i will admit that my school days were pathetic and thus it is my > opinion that your attendance in english literature was a little on the > low side ??? as you obviously didn`t comprehend my original request. Right.... did you errmm switch off as you where reading this message? you clearly have messed up totally. You 'mis-quote' me and then start saying to me that my english literature attendance was on the low side, ermm hello, did i say anything about that, you have merged someone elses mail with my quote and had a moan at me?! strange... You obviously did not understand what I was saying. What I meant was the text makes out that the person, ie. the hacker is a super brain and I am saying that you don't have to do well in all subjects to be a hacker. You could mess up big time on every subject but you can still be a hacker, the text makes it seem like you need to be someone who is clever in everything otherwise you don't have a chance of being a hacker. Hmpf.. -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Sat Apr 03 18:21:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA28144 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:46:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 13133 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 14:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 13128 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 14:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 14:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 7741 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 14:48:38 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-336.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.80) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 14:48:38 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 18:21:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: 8ad045c54b7755316c97ee2efdaf4e37 From: Phil Price On 02-Apr-99 Chris Seward said, about '[just-amiga] UK shells and irc spoof ip': > Does anyone know if you can buy space on a shell in the UK, they all > seem to be in the US which is to much hastle for me. If possible the > server should already have IRC, telnet and eggdrop pre-installed. > Honestly any shells in the uk would do? I buy in the us, and it's no hatle and very much cheaper ! (for amigacentral.com) But me and some m8's are setting up our own webhosting server soon, we just need to think of a cool domain name and by a linux box ! > My next question is does anyone have a program to spoof your IP > on irc? i want to do a trick on a friend and need to spoof my IP? there > are programs on the PC for this but not the Amiga, any help appreciated! Hehe, does tricking your friend include taking over channels with outop on a spoofed host ;) I've been trying to do this for years with no luck, mainly because amiga's don't really support raw socket tcp packeys very well ! It'll work well if you had root on a linux box :) Oh and then you need to know vunrable name servers (dns) and begin host's !But aprart from that it's easy ;) Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.onelist.com Sign up for a new email list today ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sandy@iro.u-net.com Sat Apr 03 20:43:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13625 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:46:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 10085 invoked by alias); 3 Apr 1999 19:41:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10079 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 19:41:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 19:41:18 -0000 Received: from [195.102.196.88] (helo=p88.nas1.is3.u-net.net) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10TWNv-00054z-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:47:16 +0000 Date: 03 Apr 99 20:43:36 +0000 From: "Sandy Gudgeon" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <437.762T1803T12435337iro@surf.to> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: c188ca5e8fcb21dcead6f7421ced3af6 From: "Sandy Gudgeon" --- On 02-Apr-99 18:39:02, Chris Seward said about [just-amiga] UK shells and irc spoof ip: > From: Chris Seward > Does anyone know if you can buy space on a shell in the UK, they all > seem to be in the US which is to much hastle for me. If possible the > server should already have IRC, telnet and eggdrop pre-installed. > Honestly any shells in the uk would do? try http://www.ukshells.co.uk -- Sandy Gudgeon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From triadian_uk@yahoo.com Sat Apr 03 21:13:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA26379 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:10:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 7255 invoked by alias); 3 Apr 1999 20:45:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7248 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 20:45:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web604.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.68.168) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 20:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403211321.19714.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.42.229.251] by web604.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:13:21 PST Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ian Ison To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hacker, Cracker Or FUBAR ???? X-UIDL: 671bf119cd5f13df595f1383e9c6db14 From: Ian Ison --- Chris Seward wrote: > Right.... did you errmm switch off as you where > reading this message? > you clearly have messed up totally. You 'mis-quote' > me and then start > saying to me that my english literature attendance > was on the low > side, ermm hello, did i say anything about that, you > have merged someone > elses mail with my quote and had a moan at me?! > strange... A Thousand Appologies But the flame wasn`t directed at you it was directed at somebody who i thought was having a go at my original message. you are in my mind a great person and i would not even consider having a moan at you!!! > You obviously did not understand what I was saying. > What I meant was > the text makes out that the person, ie. the hacker > is a super brain and > I am saying that you don't have to do well in all > subjects to be a > hacker. > You could mess up big time on every subject but you > can still be a > hacker, the text makes it seem like you need to be > someone who is > clever in everything otherwise you don't have a > chance of being > a hacker. I agree with all of the above and i wrote to that effect in my first message. > Hmpf.. Once again my appologies. I hope this hasn`t marred our friendship ! ________ /riadian. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come check out our brand new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Making the Internet intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From joopdejong@wxs.nl Sat Apr 03 21:31:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29909 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:51:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 27896 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 20:24:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 27883 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:24:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.wxs.nl) (195.121.6.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:24:04 -0000 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.169]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA59CC; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:53:59 +0200 From: * de Jong * To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 23:31:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: See throughs disks? X-UIDL: c75bfae77c0a82f9b9da30dbfec2796b Status: U From: * de Jong * Hello Chris On 02-Apr-99 Chris Seward wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Does anyone remember the demo of Cannon Fodder from an old Amiga > Format, it also had a game called Cannon Soccer where you killed the > Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came > on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you > can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a > computer show about 4 years ago but as the big Amiga shows don't > run anymore any idea if anyone sells them? I think I've seen them in Versalia in Germany. I don't know if they still sell them. Their url is http://www.versalia.de -- Mark de Jong - Member of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* ICQ: 16523430 IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #AMOS & #am!ga URL: http://fly.to/AmigaHeaven ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 03 23:05:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03169 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:03:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 31184 invoked by alias); 3 Apr 1999 22:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 31047 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.181] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A02791370092; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 23:03:19 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 23:05:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990403211321.19714.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hacker, Cracker Or FUBAR ???? X-UIDL: f8743515bbcf26fa29dae684f4cbd7b7 From: Chris Seward Ian, On 03-Apr-99, you wrote: > you are in my mind a great person and i would not even consider having > a moan at you!!! Should i be worried about that :) shhh, don't tell anyone they may get the wrong ideas, ug! > Once again my appologies. No worries, just thought i'd have a good old bash ;) Regards mate! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? http://www.onelist.com Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Apr 03 23:55:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA31722 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:40:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 23708 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 11:19:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 23476 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 11:18:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 11:18:59 -0000 Received: from du-025-0132.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-025-0132.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.132]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01646 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:43:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 04 Apr 99 00:55:07 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <894.763T398T553975tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: e23deab68790fc73e6792fcdc2365dca From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 02-Apr-99 19:39:02, Chris Seward (amiga@thefree.net) wrote: > From: Chris Seward > Does anyone know if you can buy space on a shell in the UK, they all > seem to be in the US which is to much hastle for me. If possible the > server should already have IRC, telnet and eggdrop pre-installed. > Honestly any shells in the uk would do? Strangely enough, you could try UK Shells :) http://www.ukshells.co.uk/ > My next question is does anyone have a program to spoof your IP > on irc? i want to do a trick on a friend and need to spoof my IP? there > are programs on the PC for this but not the Amiga, any help appreciated! Are there? Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 21967 2^28 blocks done -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: A free email community service ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 04 10:49:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22620 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:45:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 16444 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 10:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16436 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 10:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 10:19:51 -0000 Received: from modem-68.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.2.196] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=NCPIPLCP) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10TkRn-000149-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:48:11 +0100 From: Rob Hutchinson To: Just Amiga Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 11:49:34 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: 7fdfe0bc3d306c051f2a31944c041546 From: Rob Hutchinson Hello, does anyone know anything about AnimGifs in PPaint7?.. I got the update AnimGIF thing off aminet, but it requires some other version of the Gif lib,... and I dont know where to get it... any ideas? Cya! -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk | ICQ: 27181384 CURRENT PROJECTS: IconExtreme V3.01 [60%] Complete! SDS^GUI System [5%] Complete! *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ "It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Fostering connections and information exchange ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Apr 04 13:32:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08469 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:40:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 7907 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 13:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7901 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 13:19:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 13:19:41 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.10] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADCE40020142; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:40:46 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <894.763T398T553975tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: 0337264f834ab8b7ddde060cf451dbbe From: Chris Seward Tom, On 03-Apr-99, you wrote: > Strangely enough, you could try UK Shells :) > > http://www.ukshells.co.uk/ Thanks for this and to Sandy who also suggested this but I did find a cheaper place by searching on yahoo.co.uk why did I not think of this in the first place? :) > Are there? Ermm, yes. I suppose IRC servers these days check alot of things, but some of the less used one could allow this, i have seen it done on Efnet with a PC user but he logged off soon after, he had an IP like, can't remember what was before the '@' but just lots of letters after, and this I can assure you is not a shell. I suppose to find a program to do this you would have to know where to 'look' and I doubt that someone who knows how to do is releases trade secrets like that ;) I suppose i'll just have to fool my mate with a shell, oh dear... Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sandy@iro.u-net.com Sun Apr 04 17:10:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09163 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:13:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 20392 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 16:43:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20377 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 16:43:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 16:43:30 -0000 Received: from [195.102.197.197] (helo=p69.nas4.is3.u-net.net) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10TpYb-0001WD-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:15:33 +0100 Date: 04 Apr 99 17:10:56 +0000 From: "Sandy Gudgeon" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <753.763T2835T10306609iro@surf.to> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: 193532a4a6585856115301ad5b7ffa27 From: "Sandy Gudgeon" --- On 04-Apr-99 13:32:27, Chris Seward said about [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip: > From: Chris Seward > Tom, > On 03-Apr-99, you wrote: >> Strangely enough, you could try UK Shells :) >> >> http://www.ukshells.co.uk/ > Thanks for this and to Sandy who also suggested this but I did find a > cheaper place by searching on yahoo.co.uk Who did you find ? I have a shell account with wildstar.net but no IRCnet servers will accept a host from that domain. :(( I did look at UKShells but their webpage signup form didn't accept online VISA and I couldn't be bothered phoning. -- Sandy Gudgeon Team *AMIGA* ICQ 12624418 A4000/060/50 80+2MB 3.2GB HD CybervisionPPC 8x CD ROM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? http://www.onelist.com Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 04 19:49:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22377 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:56:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 32677 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 20:50:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 32653 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 20:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 20:50:18 -0000 Received: from modem-77.zirconium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.19.205] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10TtzB-00066G-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:59:18 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:49:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Zip Compatability X-UIDL: 0bb104cb5b0842928a8e0830837e6697 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Rick On 04-Apr-78, you wrote: > There's a point, are Zip disks compatable between us and a PC? Or Mac? We use Amigas, pardon my french but we can read every fucking filing system under the sun ;) Just for mat it to the pc FS if you want to share info. If not then I reccomend using them as harddrive partions. Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan We interrupt this quote for an important bulletin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.onelist.com Sign up for a new email list today ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 05 00:24:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13965 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:24:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 2028 invoked by alias); 4 Apr 1999 22:58:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1982 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 22:57:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 22:57:58 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-032.enterprise.net [194.72.196.152]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23467 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:26:37 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:24:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] [Major Off-topic] PC problems. X-UIDL: af38096d4a1f78dbef41214a30636e27 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I know this is the /Just*/ *Amiga list, but you guys are probably a lot more help then any PC manufacturas help desk: All I ask is why, when 'My Computer' clearly shows there to be 2.2 gigs of free space on my PC's 9 gig hd, does windows not let me write ANYTHING to the drive saying 'Disk is Full'. (I had to start deleting stuff) And no, there is NO way that I am gonna compressing that drive. And yes, its FAT32 formatted. If I was into the conspiracy theory, I'd say that Windows was reserving enough space for the minimum installating of the next version of Windows just to make sure that every one has enough space to buy it. Ofcorce, I suspect its probably because MS-Dos file system's just crap and the 2.2 gigs of 'free' space is simply the space the 'FAT' is taking up. So, um, any ideas? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Life is a flower; so precious in your arms, carry on smiling and the world will smile with you. -- Ace of Base. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited our new web site? http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Mon Apr 05 00:32:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16339 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:34:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 3853 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 00:05:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3832 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 00:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 00:05:07 -0000 Received: from pm4-25.bahnhof.se (pm4-25.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.218]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA05197 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:33:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 05 Apr 99 01:32:29 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Matthew O'Neill" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <756.764T1492T924177jonasth@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 99 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Zip Compatability X-UIDL: 70e15e611963badfb82841101fb1d1e8 From: "Jonas Thorell" Matthew O'Neill (mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) wrote: >We use Amigas, pardon my french but we can read every fucking filing >system under the sun ;) Yes I saw the smiley... HPFS? NTFS? 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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE7EE8.59DFBC60-- From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon Apr 05 03:35:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA20645 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 03:31:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 28858 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 03:24:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 28821 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 03:24:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 03:24:41 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (865 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Zip Compatability X-UIDL: e9eb7a08253bc68061511c11a6294351 From: Pat Kushko > There's a point, are Zip disks compatable between us and a PC? Or Mac? Hello Rick, Zip disks are the same disks regardless of were the drives is connected. But the format and directory arrangement will be specific to the machine it's hooked up to. You'll have to use multi-formatting software such as X-dos or X-Mac to read zips that have been initialised on PC's or Macs. Watchout though there is new double capacity zip disk now coming available... Hope that helps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email list services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon Apr 05 04:19:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA27888 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 04:17:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 14129 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 03:50:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14110 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 03:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 03:50:51 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912455.acay.com.au [203.19.124.55]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10652 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:20:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <370839D4.5331598F@acay.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:19:32 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Aminet Austrlian Mirror X-UIDL: 7b14f413a9dc50a52b9b4f935c431ebf From: Frank Bunton For information of all who used ot use the Australian Aminet mirror Re my recent enquiry about status of the Australian Aminet mirror on the Livewire web site. Livewire now seems to be back on line but this message has appeared:- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Start message on Livewire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 31st March 1999 PLEASE NOTE The Aminet Archive located on Livewire was lost after a RAID failure. Owing to the low utilisation, the archive will not be restored. Access numbers, dwindling CDRom sales (including not having the time to sell them anymore locally) plus space utilisation were the three deciding factors leading to the decision to not restore Aminet. I would personally like to than Urban Mueller for his time, help and support (in the form of CDRoms) to enable me to run the mirror for so long. Without the support Urban gave, Aminet would of disappeared 2 years ago. Also, thanks must also go to Dr. Greg Perry - GPSoftware - for initial support of the Archive. GPSoftware sponsored the mirror for as long as they could and got the archive through quite a few tight spots. Thanks, Ross Delaforce - ross@livewire.com.au Archive Administrator Livewire Communications ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ End message on Livewire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jeff@starinternetinc.com Mon Apr 05 05:20:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA04896 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:22:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 29062 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 05:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 28983 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 05:15:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.netacc.net) (206.28.142.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 05:15:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 21550 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 01:24:28 -0400 Received: from dial-45-max1.starinternetinc.com (HELO jeff) (207.138.111.50) by mail.netacc.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 01:24:28 -0400 Message-ID: <001301be7f23$fc7288a0$326f8acf@jeff> From: "Jeff Elliott" To: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:20:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE7EFA.120B3240" Subject: [just-amiga] unsubscribe X-UIDL: 1954bc01dd274bbfa46f7eff0f6a2f24 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE7EFA.120B3240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe jeff@starinternetinc.com ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE7EFA.120B3240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large `X' outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the Cin-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the ``List Guy'' call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a ``Shower seal'' button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the ``Manual off'' override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue ``Shower seal'' release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A & B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the ``ON'' position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the ``manual off'' override switch in the ``OFF'' position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From RSisk@world.std.com Mon Apr 05 10:23:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA19192 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:24:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 1583 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 09:59:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1361 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 09:59:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europe.std.com) (199.172.62.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 09:59:18 -0000 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id GAA28223; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from World.STD.Com (ppp0a006.std.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA25873; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:27:13 -0400 From: "Robert A. Sisk" To: Just Amiga List Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:23:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: d32bef0b6d017d12ec52a7c3c88a8601 From: "Robert A. Sisk" I've installed an internal IDE CD-ROM drive in my A4000 with AmigaOS 3.1, and I've dragged the CD0 file from Storage/DOSDrivers to Devs:DOSDrivers. When I load a CD into the drawer, I can hear it spin up, but no icon for it appears on the Workbench. The Info command shows unit CD0: as having no disk present. How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help from the list. Thank you. -- Bob Robert A. 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Meet a new friend. http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email list services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From D.Mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk Mon Apr 05 10:28:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA19210 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:27:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 6658 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 10:36:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6635 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 10:36:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk) (193.62.34.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 10:36:49 -0000 Received: from eee.rgu.ac.uk (ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk [193.62.34.252]) by glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA03917 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:28:14 GMT Message-Id: <199904051028.KAA03917@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> Received: from NS-EEE-1/SpoolDir by eee.rgu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 5 Apr 99 11:28:43 0 Received: from SpoolDir by NS-EEE-1 (Mercury 1.44); 5 Apr 99 11:28:33 0 From: "David McMinn" Organization: The Robert Gordon University, E&EE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:28:30 +0100 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 05b47a02d088454c36d61ae4cbb277ba From: "David McMinn" > How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help from > the list. Thank you. Have you tried typing diskchange into a CLI window? |) /\ \/ ][ |) |\/| © |\/| ][ |\| |\| dmcminn@house-of-mojo.freeserve.co.uk http://members.xoom.com/David_McMinn ICQ=16827694 I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come check out our brand new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Making the Internet intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From RSisk@world.std.com Mon Apr 05 10:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA26300 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:07:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 4974 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 11:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4940 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 11:38:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europe.std.com) (199.172.62.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 11:38:17 -0000 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id HAA00772; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from World.STD.Com (ppp0a007.std.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA08055; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:09:54 -0400 From: "Robert A. Sisk" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:51:09 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904051028.KAA03917@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 07e122f204f30619e30175dbbd38ef7e From: "Robert A. Sisk" On 05-Apr-99, David McMinn wrote: >> How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help >> from the list. Thank you. > Have you tried typing diskchange into a CLI window? Typing diskchange cd0: has no apparent effect. -- Bob Robert A. Sisk RSisk@World.STD.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Mon Apr 05 11:14:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA26413 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:14:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 24261 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 11:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24254 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 11:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 11:25:44 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-30.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.33]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16880 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:16:43 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: "Robert A. Sisk" Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:14:07 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 6931da94a6f0b644b9e29e16c5eb8dc7 From: Colin Wenzel On 05-Apr-99, Robert A. Sisk wrote: >From: "Robert A. Sisk" >I've installed an internal IDE CD-ROM drive in my A4000 with AmigaOS 3.1, >and I've dragged the CD0 file from Storage/DOSDrivers to Devs:DOSDrivers. >When I load a CD into the drawer, I can hear it spin up, but no icon for it >appears on the Workbench. The Info command shows unit CD0: as having no >disk present. >How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help from >the list. Thank you. You need to do a LoadV43Modules ( from amiga.de/files/SCSI_IDE_43.24.lha ) so the IDE on the A4000 will be able to work the ATAPI CD drive properly. Get the patch from amiga.de & READ THE DOCS FIRST.... It will then work fine... I know, I have one.... -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? 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Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:06:06 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC problems. X-UIDL: 70eb8c2dad8c6118cdc0a4fdae7ef7c0 From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 04-Apr-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > All I ask is why, when 'My Computer' clearly shows there >to be 2.2 gigs of free space on my PC's 9 gig hd, does windows >not let me write ANYTHING to the drive saying 'Disk is Full'. > (I had to start deleting stuff) Swap space or virtual ram? Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 721a73a2b473f966b36db060ec2c1b73 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Robert! On 05-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: "Robert A. Sisk" > I've installed an internal IDE CD-ROM drive in my A4000 with AmigaOS 3.1, > and I've dragged the CD0 file from Storage/DOSDrivers to Devs:DOSDrivers. > When I load a CD into the drawer, I can hear it spin up, but no icon for > it appears on the Workbench. The Info command shows unit CD0: as having no > disk > present. > How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help from > the list. Thank you. I suggest you to try IDEFix97 3.4 (Aminet). You can use data CDs, audio CDs, a CDDA player, a CD32 emulator. And if you like it, you can register and use every update without any annoying requester. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Mon Apr 05 18:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17889 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:02:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 28053 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 16:56:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28046 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 16:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 16:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24997 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:05:23 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-355.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.99) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:05:23 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:01:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <894.763T398T553975tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: d4c6ebebc3fe6bb7a56d07f2705fc05f From: Phil Price On 03-Apr-99 Thomas Hurst said, about '[just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip': > Are there? I did a little bit of investigation this weekend on irc with my 'accosciates' most of it i kew allready but i've learned some more, so i'll explian about A little more about spoofing :) there are three sort's of Spoofing Telnet, IRC and TCP, all are pretty obvious what they are so i won't examplian. But if you coudl TCP Spoof then you 'could' play your little trick. Chris. :) As yet i have not managed it on the amiga due to me knot knowing a chacher, or begin host that i can spoof of ( i know dns (NS) servers that i can). IRC spoofing is allmost impossible nowdays, as ther IRCd servers have been updraged to pick out spoofers etc. There is slighty dodgy way to gain a differnet host (and IP) on irc, via Proxies or Wingates, if You'd liek to know bout this, mail me ;) Erm Fianlly you coudl use a VHost for IRC Spoofing, well it's not spoofing it's a Virtual host, but i'm a bit cloudy on this area, it more or less let's you make up a Host for your machine i've seen it on on IRCNET #amiga a few times, having hosts like bot@i.steal.things.from.macd0nalds.com etc. I think ukshells / grid9.net shells offer this, it's a part of the unix IRC Clinet, BitchX (i have amiga bitchX but it's dire ;)) There are EXE's for Amiga spoofing, that are meant to work, but amiga TCP/IP has crappy RAW Socket implimentation (not at all in some ways) and not Fork and other such tcp/ip things, which *nix's have. IF you'd liek the exe's then i'll again, mail me privatly and i'll send them off to you, i don't really see the harm :P. Oh and don't ask me how i got them, or how i know all this stuff ;) Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have a new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 05 18:04:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17873 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:02:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 23583 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 16:39:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23578 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-012.enterprise.net [194.72.196.132]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08987 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:05:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:04:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC problems. X-UIDL: fd2de430d5d00c0ed6ebeab1ffc2365a From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> All I ask is why, when 'My Computer' clearly shows there >> to be 2.2 gigs of free space on my PC's 9 gig hd, does windows >> not let me write ANYTHING to the drive saying 'Disk is Full'. >> (I had to start deleting stuff) > > Swap space or virtual ram? Well, its hard drive space isn't it. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Walk around, be free and roam, there's always someone living alone. -- Simply Red ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From giark@youvegotmail.net Mon Apr 05 18:16:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18228 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:15:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 5379 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 17:55:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5369 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:55:23 -0000 Received: from youvegotmail.net (Giark@AS52-24-194.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.132.194]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22866 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:17:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC problems. X-UIDL: 61c1d4c6e9e24ec419ab340269bf7142 From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 05-Apr-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: >>> All I ask is why, when 'My Computer' clearly shows there >>> to be 2.2 gigs of free space on my PC's 9 gig hd, does windows >>> not let me write ANYTHING to the drive saying 'Disk is Full'. >>> (I had to start deleting stuff) >> Swap space or virtual ram? > Well, its hard drive space isn't it. What I meant was that ibms use hd space for swap space and/or virtual memory. If you have those options set, that may be what is holding your space. Conversely, you could be just another ibm lamer with a virus. Q8-{) Well met and godspeed, Rev. 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Sisk" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:30:44 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 7f6c21aeef00789d4429aede45cc343a From: "Robert A. Sisk" On 05-Apr-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: > On 05-Apr-99, Robert A. Sisk wrote: >> I've installed an internal IDE CD-ROM drive in my A4000 with AmigaOS >> 3.1, and I've dragged the CD0 file from Storage/DOSDrivers to >> Devs:DOSDrivers. When I load a CD into the drawer, I can hear it spin >> up, but no icon for it appears on the Workbench. The Info command shows >> unit CD0: as having no disk present. >> How can I get the drive to recognize a disk? I'd appreciate any help >> from the list. Thank you. > You need to do a LoadV43Modules ( from amiga.de/files/SCSI_IDE_43.24.lha > ) so the IDE on the A4000 will be able to work the ATAPI CD drive > properly. I put LoadV43Module and a1000.ld.strip in C: and added LoadV43Module >NIL: C:a1000.ld.strip REBOOT to my S:Startup-Sequence before SetPatch and rebooted, but the drive still doesn't recognize disks. -- Bob Robert A. Sisk RSisk@World.STD.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 05 22:16:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA24696 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:14:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 14546 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 21:06:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14541 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:06:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:06:54 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-090.enterprise.net [194.72.195.90]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23899 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:17:12 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PC problems. X-UIDL: 6dae61c05a63738a0f226bf88e138f78 From: Andrew Crowe > What I meant was that ibms use hd space for swap space and/or virtual > memory. If you have those options set, that may be what is holding your > space. Ah right, I see now. Well I don't think so, but I'll check it out anyway, thanks. > Conversely, you could be just another ibm lamer with a virus. Q8-{) it wouldn't supprise me ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 05 23:24:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09021 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:57:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 4358 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 23:38:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 4322 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:38:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:38:02 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-074.enterprise.net [194.72.196.194]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11097 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:59:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:24:27 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 51f35056389b916f3072f998d152796e From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I'm very worried about my PPC A1200 desktop: this morning when I turned it on, mu harddrive was dead! (it didn't spin up at all, but I could see the green led on it flash through the vents). very worried about it, I opened my amiga up and unplugged everything from the inside and just had the harddrive power cable in. It worked fine. I reconnected every thing and it all worked perfectly. I shrugged it off as a loose connection and thought no more of it. Until just now when my hd just suddenly stopped, and when I powered down and back on it span half up, stopped and made some very worring noises!!! (and the h.disk access led flashed). I turned it all off, opened it up again and just pushed all the connections back in, and unplugged the floppy power lead. Again the harddrive worked fine. So whats going on? Is my hard drive, floppy drive, internal leads or power supply dying (heaven forbid!!!!!!), or was it just chance that this happened for the first time, twice on the same day?? (I'm afraid, very afraid!) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Do you suffer from long term memory loss? I can't remember... -- Chumbawamba ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk Tue Apr 06 00:14:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:21:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 12269 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 23:47:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12216 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:47:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (195.44.54.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:47:30 -0000 Received: by mail.jakinternet.co.uk from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:21:15 +0100 Received: from free4all.co.uk [212.41.34.219] by mail.jakinternet.co.uk [195.44.54.75] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 62A17BCCEBA011D299D9006067311B2C for ; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:21:14 0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:14:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SLUIDL: 6A57CA7C-EBA011D2-99D90060-67311B2C Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: e4ae89aaa2dab6f82f7fe84ac0d5785f From: Nik Williams Hello Andrew On 05-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > Ok, I'm very worried about my PPC A1200 desktop: > > this morning when I turned it on, mu harddrive was dead! (it didn't spin > up at all, but I could see the green led on it flash through the vents). > > very worried about it, I opened my amiga up and unplugged everything from > the inside and just had the harddrive power cable in. It worked fine. I > reconnected every thing and it all worked perfectly. > > I shrugged it off as a loose connection and thought no more of it. > > > Until just now when my hd just suddenly stopped, and when I powered down > and back on it span half up, stopped and made some very worring noises!!! > (and the h.disk access led flashed). I turned it all off, opened it up > again and just pushed all the connections back in, and unplugged the floppy > power lead. Again the harddrive worked fine. > > > So whats going on? Is my hard drive, floppy drive, internal leads or > power supply dying (heaven forbid!!!!!!), or was it just chance that this > happened for the first time, twice on the same day?? > > (I'm afraid, very afraid!) > > See ya. Regards -- Do you use a standard power-supply? Stop the World, I want to get off <<< Amiga 1200 Tower, 030/50, 10 Mb, 24x CD, 300 Mb HD >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? http://www.onelist.com Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 06 00:32:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13864 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:30:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 20536 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 23:56:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20425 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:56:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:56:47 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-074.enterprise.net [194.72.196.194]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15434 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:33:02 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:32:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: c6292b6bbee899105610f0ad64ff7fe8 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Do you use a standard power-supply? Ha. Well Yes, if you call a heavy duty 200W PC power supply standard that is ;) Anyway, if it was a power shortage, it would have happened a long time ago. (unless my power supply is dying, how do I check it?) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is ONElist important to you? Has it changed your life? http://www.onelist.com Come visit our new web site and share with us your stories ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Tue Apr 06 01:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06844 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:42:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 169 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 14:15:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 164 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 14:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 14:15:56 -0000 Received: from tnt-2-237.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.237]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UX5m-0004oa-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:44:43 +0100 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 6 Apr 99 01:10:50 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 84361448e79e16eb0aefa1dfbef4d59d From: "Andy Kinsella" Andrew Crowe said this... > From: Andrew Crowe *snip* > So whats going on? Is my hard drive, floppy drive, internal leads or > power supply dying (heaven forbid!!!!!!), or was it just chance that this > happened for the first time, twice on the same day?? > > (I'm afraid, very afraid!) If you do the following steps, all will be well. 1. Back up ALL important data 2. Unplug the hard drive 3. Direct the harddrive toward the nearest bin 4. shed a tear, for 'tis now an ex harddrive 5. Buy a new harddrive 6. Plug in the new harddrive 7. Restore data to new drive 8. There is no 8. Before doing that, it would be wise to make sure the PSU isn't flaking out and is failing to give the HD enough power to spin up. try disconnecting everything apart from the harddrive, and see how that goes. . . > See ya. > -- -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come check out our brand new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Making the Internet intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Tue Apr 06 01:23:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA32521 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:21:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 16747 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 01:13:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 16725 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3782 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:23:19 -0500 Received: from mw-pm5-14.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (12.5.164.44) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:23:19 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:23:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: unsubscribe X-UIDL: 3fe3188cea8bf6e5e57e73f613e2093d From: Kenneth Craig Hello Hilda, On 05-Apr-99, Hilda wrote: > From: Hilda > > On 04-Apr-99, Jeff Elliott is alleged to have said... > >> unsubscribe jeff@starii.net > > > Please follow official instructions below to unsubscribe properly! > > ******************************************************************* > > First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing > Kit. 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Clarke Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited our new web site? http://www.onelist.com Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 06 01:39:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA06938 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:14:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 31366 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 02:41:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 31358 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:41:23 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-45.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.48]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29153 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:17:07 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: "Robert A. Sisk" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:39:28 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.7765.1448.143495392.3" Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: e4b5208074511038cfe6c257244327ab Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer. YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/ --BOUNDARY.7765.1448.143495392.3 Content-Type: text/plain On 06-Apr-99, Robert A. Sisk wrote: >From: "Robert A. Sisk" -snip- Ok here is my mountlist & icon for CD0: on the 4000. Put the file AND THE ICON, in your devs:dosdrivers drawer. ( This is setup so you can pop it in the WBStartup drawer if you choose. ) Make sure you have the filesystem in L: -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- --BOUNDARY.7765.1448.143495392.3 Content-Type: text/plain; name="CD0" /* $VER: CD0 40.6 (31.8.93) * * CD-ROM file system entry * * This file enables the CD-ROM file system which allows you to read standard * ISO-9660 CD-ROM disks from an Amiga with a SCSI or IDE controller. * * The "Unit" line defines the SCSI address of the CD-ROM drive. Drives * often come configured as unit 2, which is the default. Check the * documentation for your CD-ROM drive to find the exact SCSI address. * Note that most drives let you change this number using jumpers. */ FileSystem = L:CDFileSystem Flags = 0 Surfaces = 1 SectorsPerTrack = 1 SectorSize = 2048 Mask = 0x7ffffffe MaxTransfer = 0x1fe00 Reserved = 0 Interleave = 0 LowCyl = 0 HighCyl = 0 Buffers = 10 BufMemType = 0 StackSize = 1000 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 DosType = 0x43443031 /* The Device and Unit fields are controlled by tooltypes in the CD0 icon. * * Device = scsi.device * Unit = 2 */ --BOUNDARY.7765.1448.143495392.3 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="CD0.info" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 4xAAAQAAAAAADQCMADYAFwAFAAEAAQiWwngAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBAoIlurc CJ/qjAAAAAkAAAB+AAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAA2ABYAAgALClgDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAA ABAAAAwAAAAAMAAADAAAAABwAAAMAAAAAfwAAAwAAAACcgAADAAAAAQxAAAMAAAACBCAAAwA AAB/AIAADAAAAD4BwAAMAAAAHAPgAAwAAAAIB/AADAAAAAhAgAAMAAAABGCAAAwAAAAAcQAA DAAAAAAAAAAMAAAf4fwP8AwAAAMBgwwADAAAAwGBj/AMAAADAYMMAAwAAB/h/A/wDAD///// ///8AP////////gA1VVVaVVVUADVVVXJVVVQANVVV45VVVAA1VVWA1VVUADVVV2NlVVQANVV WsrVVVAA1VX361VVUADVVYC7ZVVQANVVwZY1VVAA1VVjHBlVUADVVXb4CVVQANVVVr95VVAA 1VVbmUFVUADVX/+O/+VQAMAAAAAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAADAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAwAAAAAAA AADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEM6TW91bnQAAAAAWAAAAAtBQ1RJVkFURT0xAAAAAAdV TklUPTAAAAAAE0RFVklDRT1zY3NpLmRldmljZQAAAAAKRE9OT1RXQUlUAAAAAAIgAAAAACkq KiogRE9OJ1QgRURJVCBUSEUgRk9MTE9XSU5HIExJTkVTISEgKioqAAAAAElJTTE9QkVJITSm SqZAIzZUTVi7bKmmubwmOse3pE6/PGG+v2iv0DxJIlCkWUmkqNDQ0MfMXa6rvlZpRKNGvFWr aUSjRGJBMNoAAAAAgElNMT3cNyOx2iFWOLQsUWY4tCxRZji0LDzaJi5ZuDzEaEEkUMRuWbg+ N2Dawrg8xG5BLDBmLlm4PjFAydouPMRuWSRQwyiyuD4xJDQv2iG0blm1MWNoQyc+NaswYmHB 2jxZuDBmLkEsPjWnrEIoSD7aI2c8YjhBLFI1p7u8VEEAAAAAgElNMT0oSD7aI2cwYii0MU1W p6u8VEElI7HaWMc4tDFNVqervk1WZDChXNkhVy5Zwk1Wp6u+TVWnuWIqJ2DXIVJqwsJNVqer vk1Vq6u+KEFAydYhUmqrv01Wp6u+TVWrq7xNoiQ0L9UhUmqrvE1Wp6u+TVWrq7xNoiQwYmHB 0yEAAAAAgElNMT1Mo6ervE2mp6xLTVanq7xUQSQwYionYNJMUTyrvE2mp6xLTVanq7xUQSIw YihAscnRIWEkM2tNpqesS01Wp6u8VEEiuUIoQSMjsdI4MGJZVaesS01Wp6u8VEEirC4kQSMj sdMjIihHNqxLTVanq7xUQSKsLFGxYyOx1VAAAAAAgElNMT0oQTyrvE2mp6u+KECntCxRZ0DJ 1iFhJDNrTaanq74oQKe0LFFmOsnYODBiWVWnq74oQKe0LFFmOsnZIyIoRzarvihAp8QsUWY6 ydtQQSTDvihAp8FiUWY6zWDZMWpJQjBuKECnsWIoRjrLampA1SEw0WlULTBiaEEkKr0AAAAA gElNMT0oRqvLaklFRTDTITLDXkQuVG9pKSQwYU1mq8tqSUU0o6PSITK5PkkuWaNlI20wYig2 OstqSUU0o2po0zI8xG5ZuDzEbTBiKECxy2pJRTSjo2jUXkNuVKNoxG8zsyhAsctqSUU0paPT JFJqSS5UaklJLlyjakixy2pJRTUAAAAAgElNMT1qQNQpNmInPkUyakloxG5Zo0U0o2pSaNZE YWY4yjSjSUZELFFmaTSjbKPXISyjakNvMmpGRW80o2o0pDRg2iHKLlnDakWhXG9JRUUw3Ckw Wbg8xS5ZuGlJRN0pMFmjaMRvNGc8ut8hMaNeQ25Ub2i64TLRKS5Ro2gp5EMAAAAACUlNMT1q SULhAAAAAExJTTI9QkVJITWmSqZAIzZUTVi7bKmmuWiuMi1QtE69u1W+tGg9rrorwMRlMEYq VzU6WtDQ0M/AV6ysTae6NGpEvlasSTRqRGhEMtcAAAAAgUlNMj3cOSzbIilHPMRuWbg8xG5Z uDzDYNopMGIoQSQwYihBJDBiKEFo2iEiKEEkMGEkMGahYihBYUPbMEEkMGIkMaMouyhBYSQ0 UNoiJDBiKDBmoUFNQWY8MGJm20BiKEBiOmEkVWY4tGIoSLHaJChBIii7JDFmOMQsWEElLNth AAAAAIBJTTI9QSIouiRRZjy0LFGyJDRQ2iIkKEEkUWY8tCxZZjwwYmbaJkBjTVFmPLQsWWY4 tGIoSLHYJixUKFFmPLQsWWY4xCxYQSUs1yYsUyxdZjy0LFlmOMQsUWckMKJg1SYsUyxRZjy0 LFlmOMQsUWckMGIqONQmLFMsUWY8tCxZAAAAAIBJTTI9UWY8tCxRsiQoYihIsdIhYWTMLFFn OLQuUWY8tCxRsiQrYShBIyzSJmQwb1FnOLQuUWY8tCxRsiQrLVwxJCxQ07liKcc4tC5RZjy0 LFGyJCstVahiLFDULShBPrQuUWY8tCxRsiQrLVWnq81Q1SGiJDO9UWY8tCxRsiQrAAAAAIBJ TTI9UaervE1a1yNCKEeptGxRZjwwYVGnq7xNWtlUQSTMLFFmPDBhUcervE1a2iZkMG9RZjww YVHKt7xNWty5YinHPDBhUaq4PL5aKWDZRTzEaEE+MGEkNjs8v1olqDyx1SJQITspPlElOGIo MGK0Tlolp6u8blDTIlZHJLpAAAAAAIBJTTI9PlhGbLMoQGIrTmFVp6u8TVlg0m1kojy5QMq1 aidsQSQoUWFVp6u8TVW30ymhYihBJDBiJ2xBJDBRYVWnq7xNWbfUQTooPlm3YihuISQwUWFV p6u8Tllg0iJJuDy5PlWnrblCWbg8wmFVp6u8blDUKalqSEJVpaNqbSQwAAAAAHdJTTI9QMql o2pJSbfWM0TEbmS8TUU1Okc8xLejakpZYNdqWbg6KG1Vpjsoblm4MmpuUNohJLlBKbg7KUJY NqvEbNwkukEkMGJIQSRGrcTdJLpAyrdiKG5UMFyx32zKsjooPlhGXLHgKWAkuTzKtySx4zJu WbXhAA== --BOUNDARY.7765.1448.143495392.3-- From giark@youvegotmail.net Tue Apr 06 02:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02209 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:42:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 10260 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 01:15:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10161 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:14:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phantom.golden.net) (199.166.210.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:14:56 -0000 Received: from youvegotmail.net (Giark@AS52-35-228.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.134.228]) by phantom.golden.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29285 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Giark To You" To: Andrew Crowe Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:40:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: ef432835cdc227f091e5318c1fd63394 From: "Rev. Giark To You" On 05-Apr-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > this morning when I turned it on, mu harddrive was dead! (it didn't spin >up at all, but I could see the green led on it flash through the vents). Power supply. > Until just now when my hd just suddenly stopped, and when I powered down >and back on it span half up, stopped and made some very worring noises!!! >(and the h.disk access led flashed). I turned it all off, opened it up >again and just pushed all the connections back in, and unplugged the floppy >power lead. Again the harddrive worked fine. 1200 power supply has barely enough to drive the 1200 and floppy. Each added device means more drain on a cheap power supply (damn commodore). Get an external ps if possible. Well met and godspeed, Rev. Giark ICQ 12235820 giark@youvegotmail.net http://24.112.23.20/~giark/ .----------------------------------------------. | ______ ______ _____ Coming Soon! | | / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ ·SoloTrek III | | / /__ / /_/ / / / / / | | / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / ·Cap'n Bubba | | / / / /___/ / / / / / And The Nasty | | /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ Alien Menace | | Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! | | Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast | `----------------------------------------------' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? http://www.onelist.com Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se Tue Apr 06 07:18:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA31173 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 20106 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 07:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20100 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 07:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO asdo.se) (194.218.132.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 07:48:15 -0000 Received: from asdogate.asdo.se ([194.132.65.82]) by gateway.asdo.se with ESMTP id <28687>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:24:06 +0100 Received: by asdogate.asdo.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2CMYMKD5>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:22:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:18:37 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 032c2a6c713d1202c9b85b016ca8499c From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se > Andrew Crowe wrote: > Hello Andrew >Anyway, if it was a power shortage, it would have happened a long time ago. >(unless my power supply is dying, how do I check it?) > This is how I would do. Get a digital voltmeter and two thin single wires. Connect the wires to the HDs power supply by squeezing them into the connector from the back and pull the other ends throu the chassis. Conncet them to the voltmeters wires using insulation tape to prevent a short circuit. If the power drops low when running it may be the PSU. It might as well be your HD causing this. Has your HD any problem to spin up when you start your miggy? In that case it could be the motor or the motor controller going bad. Get HDOff or any other power-saving utility that turn your HDs motor off. Then keep an eye on the voltmeter. If there's sudden power-drops it's probably the PSU. I guess that your problem starts when the computer has been running for a while, right? That would point to a heat-related fault and then again I'd suspect the PSU. But before anything else, MAKE A BACK-UP. Your HD has been kind enough to give you a warning. Take it seriously, next time... Magnus HAL 9000: "Dave. Put down those Windows disks. Dave. DAVE!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ta Da! Come see our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: A free email community service ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bachorim@frpd.utcpd.sk Tue Apr 06 07:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA31263 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:28:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 12061 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 08:09:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12045 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 08:09:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frpd.utcpd.sk) (194.160.135.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 08:09:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frpd.utcpd.sk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05990 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:31:01 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:31:01 +0200 (CEST) From: mIFo X-Sender: bachorim@frpd To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] possible candidate for MMC X-UIDL: d563a0dfd2efe8734ff090efb39a9f6f From: mIFo Hello everybody .. I read very interesting article about very powerful chip, which I think could be one of candidates for NG Amiga .. It's called ElbRus III and comes from Russia .. It is no RISC or CISC , it's based on (sorry I'm not sure it is the right translation) parallel architecture and its constructors said it is four time faster than Merced should be (and it'll be out next year). I'm not sure, but consider this: It comes from Russia, it'll be very cheap .. Very few people know about this .. It is four times faster than Merced ( MMC should be 5 times faster thn any pentium based PC).. so .. we'll see :) (c) mifkoslav....... bachorim@frpd.utcpd.sk ....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? http://www.onelist.com Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Apr 06 12:43:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05059 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:42:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 11562 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 17:34:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11557 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb04.swip.net) (193.12.122.208) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:34:07 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup203-2-18.swipnet.se [130.244.203.82]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02151 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:45:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:43:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: 45cca61aeceec6d2202ffeebdd8c93db From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Rob On 04-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Rob Hutchinson > Hello, > does anyone know anything about AnimGifs in PPaint7?.. I got the update > AnimGIF thing off aminet, but it requires some other version of the > Gif lib,... and I dont know where to get it... any ideas? To the best of my knowledge, the only gif lib there is "personal_gif_io.library", and this one you should be getting with PPaint. It's version 5.1 and dates back the day before X-mas 1994... I don't know anything about any newer versions... -- /ZoomiX < mailto:zoomix@cyberdude.com > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss Enjoy yourself. If you can't enjoy yourself, enjoy somebody else. -- Jack Schaefer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Tue Apr 06 15:48:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02833 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 11045 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11015 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:23:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:23:45 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A600799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:53:52 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:48:42 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: 34a95e78646d2ef20d33ec2c86378bfc From: Chris Seward Ok, i've decided to write an article, well... not exactly but i'm going to write a piece or something, not for AIO just to see what you think, its just me babbling on but it may make sence and it may not, who knows, and honestly does anyone really care? Before I start excuse grammer and spelling errors because i'm not checking after i've typed it ;) I've been thinking about the computer industry alot, its funny isn't it, you get these well known computer companies, well in computer and console circles that are 'known'. The team name is known, through out the world PC and console users mainly have heard to often of Team 17, Bullfrog, Rare, Camcom. blar, blar, blab blab.. all these names, who to an extent are famous, yes? well no famous in the console users and some computer users circles, outside, well who cares less about them? team17 who? capcom what? new hair dye? new soap on TV? the reaction is all to often, certain groups of people will know them, obviously computer/console users, kids and school and one or two games playing adults. The rest? they are just kiddies video games and thats all. But the story is different, the computer and console industry is now one of the biggest in the world producing masses of profit for fat cats at the top, so the people who make these game are famous right?.... wrong! the people who make the games aren't heard of, great!, credits at the end, does anyone read these? not exactly, so when do the people who create the games get credit and are famous, well face it, they don't. Honestly I think this completely stinks... if it was the music industry they would all be famous now, riding around in their sports cars and doing radio interviews.. but its not the music industry, its the computer industry and the people who do the work get sh*t on. Ok maybe the computer industry is the best place to go these days, most jobs, better pay, maybe they are on a good wage but why are they not famous? it is a big industry, we have film and music industry with its stars and then we have another big industry the computer/console one, where are the stars? name me the famous programmers or 3d gfx artists that are showing up and being treated like they are famous, they just don't exist. Nearly all the people who make these games are not known of, name me some people that are famous games makers in the industry, well I doubt most of you could, maybe some of you can, but then say that name to a none computer user and see what the reaction is. Ok the computer industry is VERY different to the music industry, but is the film industry the same as the music industry? i don't think... These stars who we all love, me included sing a 3:30 minuite song and make hundreds of thousands, ok they've written the song, have the talent (or not) to sing it, maybe play something or are in a band but then what, they are famous and rich if the song is good enough, they make to more songs and they are set up for life, in total 9 minuites of actual song and they can retired. Obviously it is not that easy because you have interviews and concerts and whatever and alot of stars say it is hard work which it probably is but isn't making a game hard work? a game can take over 2 or 3 years to be complete, some times longer and you can be damn sure its going to last longer than 3 and a half minuites. So 2-3 years in the making and a game that will say take 80 hours solid to complete without getting beat or stuck on puzzles, 80 hours of full gameplay and 2-3 years making, if you think about that it is a hell of a lot of time in production and then to use the actual game and complete it.. we compare that with a 3 minuite song, now do you see the difference? what we have is the two big industrys, music and film, computer/console industry is there, just not in a big way and when are we going to see the programmer stars? not in a long time and I guess never and again i will say it, if this was the music industry alot of us would be famous.... Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 06 18:47:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05427 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:45:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 5330 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 17:38:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5315 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:38:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-003.enterprise.net [194.72.196.3]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20367 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:48:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:47:46 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: b05df710a1a4747b20d2c01f59da1c00 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Until just now when my hd just suddenly stopped, and when I powered >> down >> and back on it span half up, stopped and made some very worring noises!!! >> (and the h.disk access led flashed). I turned it all off, opened it up >> again and just pushed all the connections back in, and unplugged the >> floppy power lead. Again the harddrive worked fine. > > 1200 power supply has barely enough to drive the 1200 and floppy. Each > added device means more drain on a cheap power supply (damn commodore). Ha, as if a standard A1200 power suply could run the PPC on its own, let alone everything else ;) I have a 200W PC power suply of course. Anyway, My amiga seems fine today (phew). See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 06 18:58:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07596 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:56:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 32279 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 17:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 32262 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:48:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-003.enterprise.net [194.72.195.123]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23102 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:48 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:58:28 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 2a428375f711a5086511b32933ed6fc6 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> So whats going on? Is my hard drive, floppy drive, internal leads or >> power supply dying (heaven forbid!!!!!!), or was it just chance that this >> happened for the first time, twice on the same day?? >> >> (I'm afraid, very afraid!) > > If you do the following steps, all will be well. > > 1. Back up ALL important data done already. > 2. Unplug the hard drive > 3. Direct the harddrive toward the nearest bin No way, I can't afford a new hard drive! (I'm gonna have a big prob if it does go! arrrgggg.) Anyway, 'tis working fine again, so I'm not too worried any more, I think its either a loose connetion, or a short somewhere in the internal power cables (maybe to do with the diskdrive, but thats working fine). I don't think theres anything wrong with the hard drive its self. > Before doing that, it would be wise to make sure the PSU isn't flaking > out and is failing to give the HD enough power to spin up. try > disconnecting everything apart from the harddrive, and see how that > goes. . . Like I said, it worked for ages before, and its working again now, but how can I test to make sure the PSU hasn't developed a fault? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 06 19:40:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27812 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:58:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 28195 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 20:30:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 28170 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:30:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:30:07 -0000 Received: from modem-11.viracept.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.92.139] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=NCPIPLCP) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Uc1j-0001Hd-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:00:51 +0100 From: Rob Hutchinson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: 14c8a5a57104eea75c5e4c57f7c3ebf6 From: Rob Hutchinson Hello Srdan Hiya, Srdan... ,on 06-Apr-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint....! So I`ma reply`in... [=> From: Srdan Kvrgic [=> [=> Hello Rob [=> [=> On 04-Apr-99, you wrote: [=> [=>> From: Rob Hutchinson [=> [=>> Hello, [=> [=>> does anyone know anything about AnimGifs in PPaint7?.. I got the [=>> update AnimGIF thing off aminet, but it requires some other version of [=>> the Gif lib,... and I dont know where to get it... any ideas? [=> [=> To the best of my knowledge, the only gif lib there is [=> "personal_gif_io.library", and this one you should be getting with [=> PPaint. It's version 5.1 and dates back the day before X-mas 1994... I [=> don't know anything about any newer versions... I`m using the PPaint7 off AFCD26.. And the CD only contains the following Libs, I haven`t got the GIF lib.. any ideas why?: personal_68000_blit.library personal_agnus_blit.library personal_ascii_io.library personal_bmp_io.library personal_datatypes_io.library personal_ilbm_io.library personal_jpeg_io.library personal_pcd_io.library personal_pcx_io.library personal_png_io.library personal_raw_io.library personal_req.library Um?? Is this lib availible anywhere do you know?? Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk | ICQ: 27181384 CURRENT PROJECTS: IconExtreme V3.01 [60%] Complete! SDS^GUI System [5%] Complete! *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ Oxymoron: Little Giants (from the current movie). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Tue Apr 06 19:50:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA32555 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:17:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 16577 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 20:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16569 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:49:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:49:37 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.242] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10UcHJ-0003Sx-00; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:16:57 +0000 From: Ralph To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:50:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 1361a38130b4831a3ff2858ffabdaadf From: Ralph Hello All >> (I'm afraid, very afraid!) > > If you do the following steps, all will be well. > > 1. Back up ALL important data > 2. Unplug the hard drive > 3. Direct the harddrive toward the nearest bin > 4. shed a tear, for 'tis now an ex harddrive > 5. Buy a new harddrive > 6. Plug in the new harddrive > 7. Restore data to new drive > 8. There is no 8. > Heed this advice well , do not rty to get another day , week , month , out of your HD *It will *, die just before you back up every thing Ralph ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Tue Apr 06 20:25:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02523 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:43:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 19745 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 20:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16973 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.65.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:52:29 -0000 Received: from [148.176.232.73] (helo=e1c2p9.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10UchB-00047j-00; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:43:41 +0100 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: Me, organised. hah ha ha Date: 6 Apr 99 21:25:35 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: adde921bec10cfff1270c0783bdfb931 From: "Richard Lane" Hi Rob Hutchinson, In reference to "[just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint....", > > I`m using the PPaint7 off AFCD26.. And the CD only contains the following > Libs, I haven`t got the GIF lib.. any ideas why?: > > personal_68000_blit.library > personal_agnus_blit.library > personal_ascii_io.library > personal_bmp_io.library > personal_datatypes_io.library > personal_ilbm_io.library > personal_jpeg_io.library > personal_pcd_io.library > personal_pcx_io.library > personal_png_io.library > personal_raw_io.library > personal_req.library > > Um?? Is this lib availible anywhere do you know?? IIRC, the "personal_gif_io.library" was only supplied with the commercial versions due to licencing restrictions by unisys. But if you have a GIF datatype installed, select "DType" in the loaders options when loading a GIF file. Unfortunately you still can't save GIF files. :( -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 06 21:37:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02311 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:34:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 13122 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 1999 20:27:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 13115 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:27:10 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-039.enterprise.net [194.72.196.159]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28136 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:37:30 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:37:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 8d0627d4a737f65477387fc6765da384 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> 1. Back up ALL important data >> 2. Unplug the hard drive >> 3. Direct the harddrive toward the nearest bin >> 4. shed a tear, for 'tis now an ex harddrive >> 5. Buy a new harddrive >> 6. Plug in the new harddrive >> 7. Restore data to new drive >> 8. There is no 8. >> > > Heed this advice well , do not rty to get another day , week , month , out > of your HD > > *It will *, die just before you back up every thing Ok, I'm now performing a whole backup, as I speak. I still think that the hard drive its self is innocent, as why would it not work until I open my amiga up and fiddle with the leads? And it then works fine for a whole day. (had no problems today) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Updated 27/3/99 -- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Tue Apr 06 23:05:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA15017 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:50:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 23097 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 17:26:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23092 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:26:14 -0000 Received: from du-024-0230.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0230.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.230]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00277 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:52:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 07 Apr 99 00:05:35 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Andrew Crowe" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <740.766T1768T55753tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 2f0282870ffce97b70edbfa9cd5db6cf From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 06-Apr-99 22:37:07, Andrew Crowe (andrewcrowe@enterprise.net) wrote: >> *It will *, die just before you back up every thing > Ok, I'm now performing a whole backup, as I speak. > I still think that the hard drive its self is innocent, as why would > it > not work until I open my amiga up and fiddle with the leads? And it then > works fine for a whole day. (had no problems today) Always treat any hard disk as it it's about to fail, because one day it will be true... Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 22299 2^28 blocks done -- Taglines are like cars - You get a good one, then someone nicks it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! 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Sisk" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:08:36 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 8802cb218e532839316c5680d1a43924 From: "Robert A. Sisk" On 05-Apr-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: > Ok here is my mountlist & icon for CD0: on the 4000. > Make sure you have the filesystem in L: Yes, I have it. I found three changes in your file from the standard one: MaxTransfer = 0x100000 > 0x1fe00 Buffers 5 > 10 Priority 10 > 5 Also, you changed tool type Unit from 2 to 0. I forgot to mention it, but I had done this too, to get unit CD0 recognized by the Info command and by file requestors. However, using SCSI_IDE43_24 and your mount file still doesn't let my drive recognize a loaded disk. -- Bob Robert A. Sisk RSisk@World.STD.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Wed Apr 07 11:06:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22140 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:22:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 19332 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 11:35:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19315 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 11:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 11:35:36 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp31.cubenet.de[194.97.156.31]) (1319 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:24:14 +0200 (MEST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Apr-8) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:03:49 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:02 +0200 Message-ID: <01BE80F7.63915960.olli@elaborate-bytes.com> From: Oliver Kastl To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:02 +0200 Organization: Elaborate Bytes X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 632fe01cbf6d8d83bcff9291aa024cdd From: Oliver Kastl On Monday, April 05, 1999 11:31 PM, Robert A. Sisk [SMTP:RSisk@world.std.com] wrote: > > I put LoadV43Module and a1000.ld.strip in C: and added > > LoadV43Module >NIL: C:a1000.ld.strip REBOOT > > to my S:Startup-Sequence before SetPatch and rebooted, but the drive > still > doesn't recognize disks. You could try IDEfix97.lha from Aminet or from http://www.elaborate-bytes.com/download/IDEfix97.lha Regards, Oliver Kastl Elaborate Bytes URL: http://www.elaborate-bytes.com Email: olli@elaborate-bytes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed Apr 07 14:07:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA32117 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 31509 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 12:57:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 31502 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 12:57:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 12:57:29 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18193 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc2-90.digital.net [204.215.229.90]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA06550 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: Rob Hutchinson Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:07:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: 0320fd1596f27d2c9f418dd04ce79150 From: ken >Um?? Is this lib availible anywhere do you know?? For this info, you have to post the lib here once you get it. I got the lib you're talking about ages ago, but with 3 hd crashes, all backups are gone. To get the gif lib you're talking about you must contact the PPAINT people directly and ask for it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed Apr 07 14:19:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01855 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:18:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 9558 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 13:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9534 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 13:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 13:09:21 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18454 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc2-90.digital.net [204.215.229.90]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09149 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:20:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: (Serious?) H/W prob with my Amiga. X-UIDL: 0bb87e3f8f9aeef55ebf42399d36d711 From: ken > I still think that the hard drive its self is innocent, as why would it >not work until I open my amiga up and fiddle with the leads? And it then >works fine for a whole day. (had no problems today) This is just for my info: Are you using checkdrive 1620 bytes and disksafe 12888 bytes ?? I suspect one or both in combo may be actually creating bad sectors. Moving on, the hardest problem to find that is almost always an intermittant is a cut, loose, cold, broken, whatever trace. ie: +5v______________________HD_POWER the one above works. ie: +5v________ _____________HD_POWER The one above doesn't.. You should be so lucky to actually be able to see a cut,broken,shorted,cold whatever trace. Wiggling anything can usually make the problem go away. Wiggling the right thing can tell you what to fix.. If the voltage were high enough as with the motorola flybacks for the C='s and the amigas all you needed to do was work in total darkness and watch what sparks and where while wiggling.. That won't work with low voltage. A cut trace on the low DC voltages in the amiga you'll never find it. Only possibility is to hit the right spot to wiggle day after day then go at it with a microscope to find the break. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed Apr 07 14:51:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA17323 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:52:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 2127 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 15:20:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2049 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 15:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 15:20:02 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-23.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.26]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA02478 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:52 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: "Robert A. Sisk" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:51:21 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: a959023cb21aa520031d2ffc5f91ef89 From: Colin Wenzel On 07-Apr-99, Robert A. Sisk wrote: >From: "Robert A. Sisk" >On 05-Apr-99, Colin Wenzel wrote: >> Ok here is my mountlist & icon for CD0: on the 4000. >> Make sure you have the filesystem in L: >Yes, I have it. >I found three changes in your file from the standard one: > MaxTransfer = 0x100000 > 0x1fe00 Just in case there is a problem with sucking more than 256 blocks at a time with this drive. > Buffers 5 > 10 Really not important but gives a small speed up... > Priority 10 > 5 So that when it is reading the CD initially, it did not steal too-much cpu time from other things I had running at the time. >Also, you changed tool type Unit from 2 to 0. I forgot to mention it, but I >had done this too, to get unit CD0 recognized by the Info command and by >file requestors. The comment in the mount file is the original, the ID is set up in the icon on the one I sent you. On a 4000 the default IDE unit is 0. /* anything between these characters is a comment */ >However, using SCSI_IDE43_24 and your mount file still doesn't let my drive >recognize a loaded disk. Well then, I may suggest your CD drive is either buggered or it is not connected correctly. If you share this IDE bus with a harddrive, make sure the harddrive is set to: "Master WITH a non ATA slave" setting. Ensure that the CD drive is set to SLAVE. If you have only the CD on the IDE bus, then set it to: "Master only, with no slaves" I would presume you have a SCSI card or something in this case. Also, test it with one of the Aminet CD's as icons won't always come up with Windblows cd's & other things... I am also using v40.11 of the CDFilesystem. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. 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If I promote eg. the warp3d screen with newmode to the similar screenmode it works well... Does somebody know's a solution? -- Gruss, Michael Jaccoud -------------------------------------------------------- Best regards Return mail address: Michael Jaccoud topgun@pop.ch -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk Wed Apr 07 18:08:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17542 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:04:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 13240 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 18:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 13234 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:07:48 -0000 Received: from modem-53.magnesium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.5.181] helo=194.152.64.35 ident=NCPIPLCP) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UwjC-0004Rh-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:07:06 +0100 From: Rob Hutchinson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Satanic Dreams Software. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: b463b4c7bfa05e58c65b17c52fa114df From: Rob Hutchinson Hello ken Hiya, ken... ,on 07-Apr-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint....! So I`ma reply`in... [=> From: ken [=> [=>> Um?? Is this lib availible anywhere do you know?? [=> [=> For this info, you have to post the lib here once you get it. [=> I got the lib you're talking about ages ago, but with 3 hd crashes, all [=> backups are gone. Is that legal?... Oh well we we see.. [=> To get the gif lib you're talking about you must contact the PPAINT [=> people directly and ask for it. I`ll contact them [=> Regards -- *CONTACTING ME:* E-MAIL: loki@napalmdeath.freeserve.co.uk | ICQ: 27181384 CURRENT PROJECTS: IconExtreme V3.01 [60%] Complete! SDS^GUI System [5%] Complete! *SATANIC DREAMS SOFTWARE FOUNDER* WWW: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/ TV Truth: Teenagers can access any computer by using their PC's. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ck@mystcorp.com Wed Apr 07 19:12:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29904 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:18:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 19584 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 19:11:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19577 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:11:01 -0000 Received: from [195.102.197.154] (helo=myst00003) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10Uxt2-00019o-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:21:20 +0100 Message-Id: <4.1.19990407200614.009a4680@mail.u-net.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990407200614.009a4680@mail.u-net.com> X-Sender: mystcorp@mail.u-net.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:12:22 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Conor Kerr In-Reply-To: <05199946.Amiga@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] Re: unsubscribe X-UIDL: 3e60f18f5d0422b29d3bbb6dd473000f From: Conor Kerr At , you wrote: >From: lupusy@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu (Lupus Yonderboy) _ >STOP NAZI NATO FORCES! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! KOCOBO JE CPb|/|JA! >------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry, but if this dickhead is still on this list then he better well justify a statement like that! I'm one of the ones that wouldn't have kept quiet during the Nazi's persecution of other peoples, I'll damn well not sit back and let some facist get away with something like this on any list I'm on. You're a wanker lupus. Regards to everyone else... Conor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Wed Apr 07 19:17:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27576 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:14:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 3181 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 19:56:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3173 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.150] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Uxlg-0001Dg-00; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:13:45 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Foo: Bar X-Zero-Hour: in 634 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: 324caf228784455a4fb856b13697fa48 From: Stephen Williams Phil Price wrote: > There are EXE's for Amiga spoofing, that are meant to work, but > amiga TCP/IP has crappy RAW Socket implimentation (not at all > in some ways) and not Fork and other such tcp/ip things, which > *nix's have. Erm, point of information :-) fork() (and vfork(), its cousin) aren't TCP/IP-related, they're the Unix system calls used to create processes by duplicating an existing process. -Stephen (the obsessive Unix fan) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed Apr 07 22:14:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14787 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:13:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 3284 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 21:04:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3263 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:04:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:04:37 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02147 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc1-73.digital.net [206.228.234.73]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA10380 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:16:22 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: amiga Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] mov X-UIDL: 1cd3fcbad7987591e16840ddf8fc5dad From: ken I have a standard a3k @25mhz. Does anyone have any idea how to either convert or view .MOV files on this machine ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed Apr 07 22:20:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17082 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:17:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 19818 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 20:53:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19772 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:53:42 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-004.enterprise.net [194.72.197.64]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17003 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:20:23 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:20:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: mov X-UIDL: dd387f9248c637455f44c4b5929f1e30 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I have a standard a3k @25mhz. > > Does anyone have any idea how to either convert or view .MOV files on this > machine ? get either QT or CyberQT from aminet. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Wed Apr 07 22:32:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA19659 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:35:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 30429 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 21:07:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29296 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:06:41 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese13.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.113]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA06710 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:45:02 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: Just-Amiga Mailing List Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:32:30 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: 0612eb8d7d9f90a3ee154f2c4fcbccbf From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi I have been using WW5 now for about 6 months and have only just realised that the only fonts that are displayed in my font list are the compugraphic fonts, it just ignores my standard amiga fonts. I have tried running the various font programs that came with WW but to no avail. The fonts are just standard and work with PPaint and Finalwriter but not WW. Does anyone know if WW supports standard fonts ? If so how do I use them ! Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed Apr 07 23:07:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA24650 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:07:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 21268 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 21:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 21232 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:58:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:58:18 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03888 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-95.digital.net [208.14.41.95]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA25520 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:07:42 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: mov X-UIDL: 9714ebf7bfe9a75d97c2a2ec64c40666 From: ken >> I have a standard a3k @25mhz. >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to either convert or view .MOV files on this >> machine ? > get either QT or CyberQT from aminet. See 'Standard a3k' Everything but xanim needs a gfx card. Anyways I finally got it up and running, but it really needs some help. I modified a PDF script. only getting 4 colors pink, blue, black and white.. Yuck. If anyone else would just like to see what a MOV looks like, here's the script.. .key mov IF NOT "" EQ "" IF EXISTS "" IF EXISTS "SYS:libs/libX11/rgb.txt" Assign LIBX11: "SYS:libs/libX11" Stack 40000 SYS:c/xanim >NIL: "" Assign LIBX11: REMOVE ENDIF ENDIF ELSE RequestFile >ENV:mov PATTERN=#?.mov TITLE="Select a Quicktime movie" IF NOT $mov EQ "" Assign LIBX11: "SYS:libs/libX11" Stack 40000 SYS:c/xanim >NIL: $mov Assign LIBX11: REMOVE ENDIF UNSET mov ENDIF The way to call it (that works for me) is s:xanim.scr from the mov command line. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed Apr 07 23:29:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27246 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:27:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 25231 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 1999 23:09:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25203 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:09:21 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-031.enterprise.net [194.72.196.151]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02257 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:29:47 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: mov X-UIDL: fe9402b875c86d7a0f420666fb5a55b9 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >>> I have a standard a3k @25mhz. >>> >>> Does anyone have any idea how to either convert or view .MOV files on >>> this machine ? > >> get either QT or CyberQT from aminet. > > See 'Standard a3k' Everything but xanim needs a gfx card. Oh, I was sure one of them at least ran on non-aga. (neither of them need a gfx card though, works on my aga only A1200). > Anyways I finally got it up and running, but it really needs some help. I > modified a PDF script. only getting 4 colors pink, blue, black and white.. > Yuck. Well, I'm afraid I've never used XAnim. Try its command line options. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I no longer fear hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From drstrange@jps.net Thu Apr 08 05:56:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00622 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:55:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 7182 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 06:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7176 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.jps.net) (209.63.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:37:40 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-227.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.227]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA17896 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: 69eb86c01d9c94f5da354d8388d39004 From: Mark Tierno Howdy Wayne On 07-Apr-99, Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - wrote: > From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - > > Hi > > I have been using WW5 now for about 6 months and have only just realised > that the only fonts that are displayed in my font list are the > compugraphic fonts, it just ignores my standard amiga fonts. I have tried > running the various font programs that came with WW but to no avail. > > The fonts are just standard and work with PPaint and Finalwriter but not > WW. > > Does anyone know if WW supports standard fonts ? Yes WW supports standard fonts, but even after you use the given program to get it to recognise your fonts (after remembering to change the appropriate tooltype in the program before running it so it scans the right directory for your fonts), you have to go into Settings (into whichever setting it is that handles fonts, can't remember right now nor be bothered to look it up, but it should be easy to finds) and check which fonts you want it to list/use. They're given as stuff like True Type, Compugraphic, Amiga Bitmap, etc. If it isn't checked then it won't be used. -Later --- I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 08 08:13:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22530 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:15:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 27806 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 08:28:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27799 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 08:28:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 08:28:07 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-15.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.18]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18342 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:18:04 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: ken Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:13:25 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: mov X-UIDL: d7ed8cce7034d5c4c1976ee5c37d1dfc From: Colin Wenzel On 08-Apr-99, ken wrote: >From: ken >I have a standard a3k @25mhz. >Does anyone have any idea how to either convert or view .MOV files on this >machine ? QuickTime (Qt) available on aminet. Ohh, btw, and an 040 or 060 equipped Amiga would be nice. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ralph@twiss.u-net.com Thu Apr 08 12:40:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04206 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:49:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 7248 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 13:22:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 7240 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 13:22:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 13:22:17 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.126] (helo=u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10VEEJ-00048t-00; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:48:24 +0000 From: Ralph To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:40:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: 9388921e8709aea05e587b9d00ce6f01 From: Ralph Hello Mark snip--> >> Does anyone know if WW supports standard fonts ? > > Yes WW supports standard fonts, but even after you use the given program > to get it to recognise your fonts (after remembering to change the > appropriate tooltype in the program before running it so it scans the > right directory for your fonts), you have to go into Settings (into > whichever setting it is that handles fonts, can't remember right now nor > be bothered to look it up, but it should be easy to finds) tish tish can't be botherd to look :-) they are in the settings menu under fonts and check which > fonts you want it to list/use. They're given as stuff like True Type, > Compugraphic, Amiga Bitmap, etc. If it isn't checked then it won't be > used. -Later Ralph ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From joopdejong@wxs.nl Thu Apr 08 14:46:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29913 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:51:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 27973 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27951 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp02.wxs.nl) (195.121.6.60) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.169]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB59CC; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:54:01 +0200 From: * de Jong * To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: mIFo Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:46:24 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: possible candidate for MMC X-UIDL: b883765dfc8eb6f2898962c9328d9f55 Status: U From: * de Jong * Hello mIFo On 06-Apr-99 mIFo wrote: > From: mIFo > > Hello everybody .. I read very interesting article about very powerful > chip, which I think could be one of candidates for NG Amiga .. It's called > ElbRus III and comes from Russia .. It is no RISC or CISC , it's based on > (sorry I'm not sure it is the right translation) parallel architecture and > its constructors said it is four time faster than Merced should be (and > it'll be out next year). I'm not sure, but consider this: > It comes from Russia, it'll be very cheap .. > Very few people know about this .. Well, actually a lot of people know about it :) I've read it on a IT-newspaper (Computable), a few popular PC magazines and I've read about it in the TeamAmiga emailing list (long ago.. 26-feb) where somebody forwarded the news about the processor from some newssite. I did read however that they didn't found anyone to finance/produce them yet. One other thing, how do you know it will be cheap? The fact that it comes from Russia doesn't mean it will be cheap :). It might also be an expensive chip only meant to be used in supercomputers, not ment for use in homecomputers :(. > It is four times faster than Merced ( MMC should be 5 times faster thn any > pentium based PC).. > > so .. we'll see :) I hope :) -- Mark de Jong - Member of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* ICQ: 16523430 IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #AMOS & #am!ga URL: http://fly.to/AmigaHeaven ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Thu Apr 08 17:47:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29713 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:52:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 28278 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 21:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28254 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:42:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:42:59 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=pii400) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VMlo-0007Z8-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:55:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000601be820a$c855c2a0$02000003@pii400> From: "Alan Gryniewicz" To: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:47:26 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: unsubscribe X-UIDL: 574c29e234ab7ddf43c93d004b042a25 From: "Alan Gryniewicz" >>STOP NAZI NATO FORCES! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! KOCOBO JE CPb|/|JA! >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I'm sorry, but if this dickhead is still on this list then he better well >justify a statement like that! To be honest when I first saw that I was a little disturbed by it but I decided to let it go because it was an Amiga mailing list and didn`t want to go off topic but after reading your reply I think it is very much ON-TOPIC because it is something important that is going on in the world at this very moment! What worries me is that the writer of this crap seems to think that proving "KOSOVO IS SERBIA!" is the main issue here.... It isn`t!! In fact it`s completely irrelevant in my opinion...... The way I see it, the ONLY thing that we should be worrying about now is the fact that..... PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING!!!!! (Excuse my language but I feel it is justified!) >I'm one of the ones that wouldn't have kept quiet during the Nazi's >persecution of other peoples, I'll damn well not sit back and let some >facist get away with something like this on any list I'm on. You're a >wanker lupus. I think anyone who thinks whatever is going on justifies in any way sacrficing lives is a complete asshole!! C yA! Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From skvr@swipnet.se Thu Apr 08 19:04:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02144 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:11:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 10366 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 19:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10336 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:24:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb06.swip.net) (193.12.122.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:24:45 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup162-3-31.swipnet.se [130.244.162.159]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA07855 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Personal Paint.... X-UIDL: 0f73cdd7b0329214fc58c8bb6f0f3b08 From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello ken On 07-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: ken >> Um?? Is this lib availible anywhere do you know?? > For this info, you have to post the lib here once you get it. > I got the lib you're talking about ages ago, but with 3 hd crashes, all > backups are gone. > To get the gif lib you're talking about you must contact the PPAINT people > directly and ask for it. Yeah, that's right! They ran into trouble with the packer routine they used in GIF. All of the sudden some dude figured out they used his routines, so he sued them for a couple of million bucks or something. The process took roughly a year and during this time Cloanto couldn't deliver the GIF filetypr reader and saver. That's the main reason behind PNG ever getting started BTW... I think This is all from memory (and my isn't the greatest one TBH) so don't quote me on anything. -- /ZoomiX < mailto:zoomix@cyberdude.com > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss Treat the Earth well. It was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. --Kenyan Proverb ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Thu Apr 08 19:23:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27399 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:29:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 28180 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 18:00:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 28172 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:00:11 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese11.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.111]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA18958 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:41:44 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:23:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: df8cff437947b6b75b3065fd894e4671 From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Mark On 08-Apr-99, you wrote: > tooltype in the program before running it so it scans the right directory > for your fonts), you have to go into Settings (into whichever setting it is > that handles fonts, can't remember right now nor be bothered to look it up, > but it should be easy to finds) and check which fonts you want it to > list/use. They're given as stuff like True Type, Compugraphic, Amiga > Bitmap, etc. If it isn't checked then it won't be used. I don't have a fonts menu in my settings options at all, I am using the WW5 SE version if that makes any difference. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Thu Apr 08 21:07:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12043 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:08:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 22782 invoked by alias); 8 Apr 1999 20:51:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22775 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:51:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:51:50 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00264 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc1-45.digital.net [206.228.234.45]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA07714 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:09:38 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: amiga Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Printer reviews X-UIDL: 33aaf2e401eb5d149f34bbaffc7034bc From: ken We need more reviews of printers being used by amiga users.. There's only 2 total reviews at http://math.uh.edu/~barrett/reviews.html In the meantime while I hold my breath waiting for others to submit reviews of their printers, does anyone have any pros or cons on printers they're using ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! 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X-UIDL: 4892ec085caa8573ff9b31256431388a From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Yeah, that's right! They ran into trouble with the packer routine they > used in GIF. All of the sudden some dude figured out they used his > routines, so he sued them for a couple of million bucks or something. ok, a pretty pointless post, but wasn't it that whats-their-name copyrighted some packing routine, and then decided they could use it in an image format, and so that was copyright too? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I no longer fear hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 09 22:02:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA06228 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:01:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 12621 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 1999 21:52:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12612 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:52:31 -0000 Received: from [212.228.65.251] (helo=pc300a) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VjLZ-0000jl-0A; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:01:58 +0000 Message-ID: <004b01be82d4$bb01fd60$f9c1fea9@pc300a> From: "Gavin Williams" To: , Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:02:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] BVision PPC Graphics card X-UIDL: ca51228d6db69db9b4669e749644edac From: "Gavin Williams" Hi all. I know that the manual states that the card is not designed for running in an A1200 desktop but is there any way it can be done. I have tried but the system just doesn't boot up. I assume this is because it cannot supply enough voltage? I have an uprated PSU. Can anyone help? Thanks. Gavin Williams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Apr 09 22:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA30121 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:03:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 23070 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 1999 20:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23059 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:35:26 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05150 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc4-72.digital.net [204.215.233.72]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07458 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:06:31 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: amiga Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:04:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] star gemini 10x X-UIDL: 4396932c3e0f56214732497dfa157e4f From: ken Well I found a Star Gemini 10x at the local thrift shop (that works) for $20.00 Even got a driver for it from aminet. There's no manual (not surprised) did a web search and only found 57 pages with +star +gemini +10x +printer in them and none of these really had anything worth keeping a web page for. Even found one page that had nothing to do with the star 10x printer, but it did have all 4 words in it.. Anyways It will print if I use SE (SAS/C text editor) just fine, but I have several other editor programs that can do a bit more in the line of printing than SE can. ie: Wordworth 5SE. I selected the driver and chose a small phone entry style text to print. Nothing fancy just words and numbers in mixed case.. SE worked fine. Wordsworth spat out a line of capitalized junk (not even a full line), then spit out 2 blank pages, and about a third a line of more garbage. I finally just turned the printer off with 4 feet of paper on the floor and 2 lines of garbage separated by 2 feet of empty space. Does anyone have either a manula, or know what the switch settings in the back mean or any other specifics on this printer and maybe why it doesn't print. Also does this thing also do color ? I saw where you can get 4 color ribbons for this printer.. Does anyone know who the company is that made these printers ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Apr 09 23:09:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07257 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:08:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 3407 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 1999 21:42:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3192 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:42:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:42:23 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.195.50]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21828 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:10:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:09:38 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: star gemini 10x X-UIDL: e363ff15730f5e1be5e88e712f6e4b75 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Well I found a Star Gemini 10x at the local thrift shop (that works) for > $20.00 > Even got a driver for it from aminet. > Anyways It will print if I use SE (SAS/C text editor) just fine, but I > have several other editor programs that can do a bit more in the line of > printing than SE can. ie: Wordworth 5SE. I selected the driver and chose > small phone entry style text to print. Nothing fancy just words and > numbers in mixed case.. > SE worked fine. Wordsworth spat out a line of capitalized junk (not even > full line), then spit out 2 blank pages, and about a third a line of > garbage. I finally just turned the printer off with 4 feet of paper on > floor and 2 lines of garbage separated by 2 feet of empty space. > Does anyone have either a manula, or know what the switch settings in the > back > mean or any other specifics on this printer and maybe why it doesn't > print. The company responsible is almost certainly Star, I used to have a Star LC10, before I got my Cannon BJC blahblahblah. I'd leave the switches alone, they probably change between different fonts and ascii sets. The reason it wordworth can't print is almost certainly because you arn't using the right driver. SE can print because it's just sending text to the printer, but because WW5 uses graphics, it sends gfx to the printer. If you have the wrong driver then the other printer interprets this wrong, and spits out a load of crap. I'd look for a different Star driver on aminet, or check the printing settings on the one your using now. If you can't get it working, well, you may have to go and buy a different printer that has got drivers for the Amiga. (well, its only $20 eh? If your a good bargainer you might be able to sell it as second hand for more then that ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Apr 09 23:16:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07343 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:13:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 26702 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 1999 22:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 26695 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:43:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:43:29 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.195.50]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23000 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:16:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004b01be82d4$bb01fd60$f9c1fea9@pc300a> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: BVision PPC Graphics card X-UIDL: 27643e1c7e348272d79ab41e960a47b3 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Hi all. > > I know that the manual states that the card is not designed for running in > an A1200 desktop but is there any way it can be done. I have tried but the > system just doesn't boot up. I assume this is because it cannot supply > enough voltage? I have an uprated PSU. Can anyone help? Yep, almost everyone seems to be having trouble with the BVision. Try these: 1. If all the power and the hd come on, but the screen stays black, try a Ctrl-A-A reboot. (my A1200PPC, no BV. does that, and other peoples do to for some reason). 2. Failing that, make sure the BV is secure in its port, it may be loose. (aparently you're supposed to screw it down real tight) 3. Check it runs with the cover off and the keyboard out the way, they could be pushing it out of its socket. 4. Make sure its not shorting on the metal case underneath it (put a bit of paper under it or something) 5. Ask the PPC list. 6. Maybe you've got a broken one? Ring the place you got it from or Phase5. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. 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Thanks Gavin Williams ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Sat Apr 10 12:24:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01960 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:25:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 7532 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 11:55:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 7523 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 11:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 11:55:00 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese15.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.115]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10679 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:37:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: Just-Amiga Mailing List Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:24:57 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Flash on Amiga X-UIDL: 2cb716af737bb9132899041b482ee442 From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi all I saw something a whilee back syaing that flash was now posssible on the Amiga, but I can't seem to find anything on the net about it. Does anyone know where the s/ware or info has be found. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Apr 10 13:24:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11480 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:22:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 810 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 12:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 797 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 12:52:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 12:52:25 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-061.enterprise.net [194.72.196.181]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24131 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:24:59 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:24:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002701be833f$715ab1a0$77c2fea9@pc300a> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: PPC group/list X-UIDL: 0208a2ad7d65800779909c4dce3e5815 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Can anyone tell me if there is a newsgroup or mailing list for PPC stuff, > and if so where. Send an email to powerup-request@lists.best.com with 'subsingle your.email@address' in the body & subject See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Apr 10 14:19:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30721 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:19:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 15006 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14998 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:22:35 -0000 Received: from pm1-39.bahnhof.se (pm1-39.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.52]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA08747 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:18:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 10 Apr 99 15:19:07 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y -" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <953.769T387T9192836jonasth@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 99 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Flash on Amiga X-UIDL: 21472f1a4d0dc838883603934fec21bb From: "Jonas Thorell" Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: >I saw something a whilee back syaing that flash was now posssible on >the Amiga, but I can't seem to find anything on the net about it. >Does anyone know where the s/ware or info has be found. Macromedia's shockwave flash? That one's certainly possible. I can't find the url again but just let me know and I mail you the archive. --- Come in from your checkpoints on your lonely roads, Come in from your ditches in your silent fields where intensified light from a rifle sight makes the darkness day and the day too bright. --- Instead of putting others in their place, put yourself in their place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 14:32:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02846 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 11294 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11287 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:24:16 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A620799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:54:24 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:32:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000601be820a$c855c2a0$02000003@pii400> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: unsubscribe X-UIDL: 38d3c14392efe76712281adb582ad51e From: Chris Seward All, On 08-Apr-99, you wrote: >>> STOP NAZI NATO FORCES! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! KOCOBO JE CPb|/|JA! >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> I'm sorry, but if this dickhead is still on this list then he better well >> justify a statement like that If you are going to talk about Kosovo or whatever and think it is alright to send out messages for or against Nato action then you will be removed from the list instantly with no hope of returing to it. Of course what is going on is very worrying but this has nothing to do with the Amiga and should not be discussed on this list. Regards. -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 14:47:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02850 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 11575 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11542 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:24:21 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A625799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:54:29 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:47:52 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Interview with Digital Dreams Entertainment, questions wanted! X-UIDL: 3febed23482c450c691672a7cad995e7 From: Chris Seward Following the sucess of the 'you ask them' idea which was used with Petro where you the people on the JUST-AMiGA mailing list get to ask the questions we are running it again. This time we have secured an interview with *Cvijan Cvijanovic* at *Digital Dreams Entertainment*. For those of you that do not know who these are, they are currently releasing *Wasted* *Dreams* as well as working on other titles like Diablos Lands and MegaPolice. We have the first (to my knowledge) interview with them and want your questions, anything you want to know, Please send your question/s to, *amiga@thefree.net* - thanks! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 14:52:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02857 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 11681 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11659 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:24:23 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A627799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:54:31 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:52:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: d4ffce82357d6c820d2dad9466b6d496 From: Chris Seward Phil, On 05-Apr-99, you wrote: > there are three sort's of Spoofing Telnet, IRC and TCP, all are I do not exactly agree, Telnet is not spoofing, you can telnet in to a Linux or Unix server or even something running SunOS etc. etc. These are shells and things like @i.eat.at.macd0nald.com are registered domains being subdomained to have bits before macd0nald. IRC is not spoofing, spoofing is spoofing and you can spoof your IP to anything, ie. web pages, irc servers whatever. > > bot@i.steal.things.from.macd0nalds.com etc. > > I think ukshells / grid9.net shells offer this, it's a part > of the unix IRC Clinet, BitchX (i have amiga bitchX but it's > dire ;)) Not exactly true to my knoledge either. The IP is not part of the unix irc client, firstly you have to buy a Shell which gives you a certain amount of space to run unix/linux programs, bitchx, ircII, ircd, eggdrop whatever. Then you registered the domain macd0nalds.com or whatever you want, then subdomain to the words before, this way your IP is being 'pulled' to be used as i.steal.things.from.macd0nalds.com or whatever you choose. > Oh and don't ask me how i got them, or how i know all this stuff ;) As far as I can tell know one on the list knows and what I already know seems to be the most anyone on the list knows on this subject unless some clever d*ck is hiding :) Spoofing your IP occours when you source-route your packets - i.e. the data you send to a distant host has both the destination address and your false source address. As far as I can tell most if not ALL ircd do what is called IDENT, this sends back data packets to the suppied IP address to check if it is real, this is where the IP spoof would occour, but how is not something I know yet. Quoting "Oh and don't ask me how i got them, or how i know all this stuff ;)" I don't seem to understand because I don't really see what you know, so how can you say this ;)? Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 14:55:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02861 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 11793 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 11757 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:24:24 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A629799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:54:33 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:55:00 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Slow HD spin down? X-UIDL: 89c295b27568bad88a763ce045da8867 From: Chris Seward Reading Andrew Crowes emails about his HD reminded me that my HD plays up sometime and wondered if any of you could help. It doesn't effect me in anyway and my computer is running fine but occationally when I switch off the computer th HD spins down very slowly and you can hear it, only takes a few seconds longer than normal and doesn't break anything but it sounds strange? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 15:01:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02865 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:54:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 11891 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11861 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:24:26 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.191] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A62B799E0098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:54:35 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:01:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: d9957cc30ced59a6d1a469c2e50d4662 From: Chris Seward Wayne, On 07-Apr-99, you wrote: Whats this FREE personal and national rate numbers you run on your web page? > > Regards, +W A Y N E+ > *[ h y p e r b o y ]* Paperboy more like! Hmpf. -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From lairfight@softhome.net Sat Apr 10 16:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12471 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:49:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 21719 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 15:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21713 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 15:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maild.telia.com) (194.22.190.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 15:19:05 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (LFt@t2o68p110.telia.com [62.20.138.230]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15227 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:52:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Linus Akesson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:52:37 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: f133bdc15f6baf497612d1aa4f62cf93 From: Linus Akesson On 06-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > Ok, i've decided to write an article, well... not exactly but i'm going > to > write a piece or something, not for AIO just to see what you think, its > just me babbling on but it may make sence and it may not, who knows, > and honestly does anyone really care? > ... 1. Linus Torvalds can be considered a 'star'. Bill Gates too, although he's a bit more hated. 2. Pop stars generally don't write their music. Some don't sing it themselves either. And the big guy at the top of the pyramid gets all the money anyway. 3. Who hasn't heard of Martin Galway and Rob Hubbard? Those were the days. Linus -- wwww (o)(O) .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://linusworld.cjb.net | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' If it wasn't so cool out today, it would be warmer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From oliver.roberts@iname.com Sat Apr 10 18:03:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03647 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:22:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 15599 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 17:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15585 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 17:52:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 17:52:07 -0000 Received: from modem-54.chef.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.114.54] ident=oliver) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10W2RH-0000nM-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:25:07 +0100 Date: 10 Apr 99 19:03:03 +0100 From: "Oliver Roberts" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <1158.769T197T11432609oliver.roberts@iname.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Pace 56 Solo mailing list X-UIDL: f0637de9548e11d770c771425b48a755 From: "Oliver Roberts" Announcing a new mailing list, for owners of the Pace 56 Solo modem... The mailing list is a discussion forum for owners of Pace 56 Solo modems. The subject matter is really anything to do with the Pace 56 Solo - be it, queries, problems, quirks, upgrade woes, etc, etc. Why have such a forum? Well, the main aim is to provide a central place for all Pace 56 Solo owners to communicate, and hopefully help each other out with any problems encountered. I plan to inform Pace should any bugs in the firmware come to light (i.e. if loads of people appear to be experiencing the same problem). The mailing list is open to anyone who has a Pace 56 Solo modem, and it should be noted that this is a platform independent forum (not just for PC users!). To subscribe, go to http://www.egroups.com/list/56solo/ or send a blank e-mail to 56solo-subscribe@egroups.com -- Oliver Roberts /~\ ___(~)__ __ |~~~/~| UIN: 34640231 Norwich, UK | o | ' |~/. /. | | ~|| | oliver.roberts@iname.com |_|_|_M_|_\_,\__; |_| |_| oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Developer |__/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Apr 10 18:26:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA26893 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:24:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 23314 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 17:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23307 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 17:14:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 17:14:55 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-062.enterprise.net [194.72.196.182]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02893 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:27:22 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:26:52 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: 771ed216ea1f597b6f23971bc77f7f10 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > But the story is different, the computer and > console industry is now one of the biggest in the world producing > masses of profit for fat cats at the top, so the people who make these > game are famous right?.... wrong! the people who make the games aren't > heard of, great!, credits at the end, does anyone read these? not > exactly, so when do the people who create the games get credit > and are famous, well face it, they don't. Honestly I think this > completely > stinks... Well, maybe the programmers arn't in it for the fame, they're in it for the money? Hell, as long as I got a big juicy pay cheque at the end of each month I don't think I'd care if anyone knew I'd programmed it. Also, with your movie analogy, ok so that stars are famous, but what about the teams of special effect artists that spend ages doing all the special effects etc? And the music analogy, true it may only be a 3 minute song, but for a start they have to write the music with the tune, then they spend hours recording different tracks, mixing and gererally fiddling with it before they mix it in to the final 3 minute track. Anyway, as most modern software is is developed by litrally hundreds of people, how could you make them all famous? It would be impossible. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Apr 10 19:32:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25283 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:32:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 6903 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 10:01:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 6898 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 10:01:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 10:01:09 -0000 Received: from du-024-0210.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0210.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.210]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06675 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:33:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 10 Apr 99 20:32:53 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y -" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <799.769T2678T12325875tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Flash on Amiga X-UIDL: d4c17e6d26e61c1e301586d574b1628c Status: U From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 10-Apr-99 13:24:57, Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: > I saw something a whilee back syaing that flash was now posssible on the > Amiga, but I can't seem to find anything on the net about it. > Does anyone know where the s/ware or info has be found. You mean ShockWave flash, the streaming animation format? Paul Hill has ported/is porting an open source player, it's at: http://www.lagernet.clara.co.uk/ Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 22645 2^28 blocks done -- AMAZING BUT TRUE There is so much sand in Northern Africa that if it were spread out, it would completely cover an area the size of the Sahara Desert. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Sat Apr 10 19:56:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08495 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:57:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 17134 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 18:47:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17114 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 18:47:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 18:47:01 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi138031.voyager.net [209.153.138.31]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager) with SMTP id PAA03275 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:01:28 -0400 (EDT) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Spectrum and Emplant questions X-UIDL: 9ba5a52332d57e70da867b5c63eeeb03 From: jack york Hello, I was recently given an EGS Spectrum graphics system and an Emplant Mac emulator card (without the chips). I don't have access to the person that gave me them ( a friend of a friend who is now overseas ) and I have several questions I was hoping someone here could answer for me. On the Spectrum: I have it installed and in use but the display is a 640 x 480 screen. Maybe it's because I am used to working with a normal hi-res screen (640 X 200) but everything on the screen seems out of aspect. The text and images appear wider than they should. Is it possible (and if so, how ?) to make a driver for 640 X 200? When I look at the specs from workbench prefs, the minimum settings are 640 x 480 so I can't change it that way. Am I correct in assuming that if I select the standard workbench High Res screen driver that I am no longer using the Spectrum package? When I switch screens the monitor flashes, as if it was losing power for an instant. Is this normal with Spectrum? If I try to set the colors to more than 8, the monitor stays black when I boot up. How do I take advantage of the 24 bit colors? I tried setting Voyager to use more colors but it didn't seem to make a difference. BTW, I have a stock A3000 with the full 16 meg and 2 meg added by this card. There's a black border now around the workbench screen. I can adjust it out with the monitor controls but then other applications do not appear right. Is there a way around this? I realize the board isn't supported any longer but are there any updated libraries that I should be aware of? On the Emplant: I have no intention of using the Mac emulator part of it but I would like to use the serial and SCSI ports. Can I do this without adding the chips? How would I go about that if it is possible? If anyone can help me with any of the above I would appreciate it. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 20:19:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13163 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:21:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 24817 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 18:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24726 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 18:50:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 18:50:59 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.107] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4ACCF8F0056; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:21:16 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:19:45 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Its nearly here.... X-UIDL: 29ee8c927fec9bfbe5ed88321cb38377 From: Chris Seward WWW.AIO.CO.UK will be online by next saturday :))) Also when people register as an AIO reader or send me emails, sometimes people say I like your AOL or please send me AOL each month. Have AOL brainwashed everyone into typing AOL when you start a word with 'a' it looks that way ;) Any why is AOL in Europe no EOL? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 10 20:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA13229 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:27:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 28651 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 18:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 28625 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 18:56:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 18:56:57 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.107] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A612A5570098; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:27:14 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:30:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: 0d686b503bbc898ef770d210757ace40 From: Chris Seward Andrew, On 10-Apr-99, you wrote: > Anyway, as most modern software is is developed by litrally hundreds of > people, how could you make them all famous? It would be impossible. Yes but as Linus says mostly the artist doesn't write the music, don't do the sound and half the time don't sing it, how can you sing to VengaBoyz? "We like to party" now "we have loads of money" is what they are saying. Maybe money is good but fame is something that I look for. Even if just earning a gereral wage and famous is better me thinks! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sat Apr 10 20:37:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA25152 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:34:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 18254 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 21:19:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 18218 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 21:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 21:19:45 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.86] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10W4S5-0005Jk-00; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:34:05 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Foo: Bar X-Zero-Hour: in 631 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: 9e67b492dbfa0896742871b73559fa9a From: Stephen Williams Chris Seward wrote: > Telnet is not spoofing, you can telnet > in to a Linux or Unix server or even something running SunOS > etc. etc. Why distinguish SunOS from Unix? SunOS is derived from BSD Unix. -Stephen (obsessive Unix fan, just ignore me :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sat Apr 10 20:40:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA25180 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:37:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 17736 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 20:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 17723 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 20:11:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 20:11:50 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.86] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10W4Uv-0005LV-00; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:37:01 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Foo: Bar X-Zero-Hour: in 631 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Its nearly here.... X-UIDL: f1c53412cc45e695d6a1e9c8422f8c6d From: Stephen Williams Chris Seward wrote: > Have AOL brainwashed everyone into typing AOL when you > start a word with 'a' it looks that way ;) No, I don't think so. -Stephen (in front of his AOL 1200) ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Sat Apr 10 21:00:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA25200 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:39:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 5615 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 20:10:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5593 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 20:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 20:10:07 -0000 Received: from pm2-15.bahnhof.se (pm2-15.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.88]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04024 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:38:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 10 Apr 99 22:00:53 +0100 From: "Jonas Thorell" To: "jack york" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1618.769T2698T13204735jonasth@bahnhof.se> X-System: Amiga 3000/040@40 Mhz, 99 Meg, 11.5 Gig HD, 28k8 X-Hardware: Prelude soundcard, Vlab digitizer, CV64 gfx-card X-Hardware: Buddha IDE-controller, 24x CD-ROM X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor, ScalOS, MCP and assorted bits of bytes... X-UIN: 12427044 X-Misc-info: Who's reading this?? X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Spectrum and Emplant questions X-UIDL: 68fcba70806e9296a24c5ea07cdce667 From: "Jonas Thorell" jack york (jyork@voyager.net) wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that if I select the standard workbench > High Res screen driver that I am no longer using the Spectrum > package? Yes. But ditch EGS if you're using that. Use Picasso96 or CybergraphX instead. I don't know how the EGS prefs-programs work but with P96/CGFX you can create your own screenmodes, as much as the card and your monitor can handle. Then you just use the screenmode-prefs and chooses a new resolution for your main display and saves. Hey, 800x600 in 24 bit (or higher if the card supports it). > I realize the board isn't supported any longer but are there any > updated libraries that I should be aware of? CyberGraphX...I recomendend v4.1. Commercial but worth every penny/lire/rubel/ dollar... >On the Emplant: > I have no intention of using the Mac emulator part of it but I would > like to use the serial and SCSI ports. Can I do this without adding the chips? > How would I go about that if it is possible? No idea, sorry. Give it to me otherwise...could be handy together with ShapeShifter. Perhaps... --- Come in from your checkpoints on your lonely roads, Come in from your ditches in your silent fields where intensified light from a rifle sight makes the darkness day and the day too bright. --- Appearances often are deceiving. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Sat Apr 10 21:40:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23465 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:50:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 4468 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 00:23:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4264 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 00:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 00:23:11 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-59.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.59]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10W7Wf-0004MQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:51:02 +0100 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 10 Apr 99 21:40:04 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Interview with Digital Dreams Entertainment, questions wanted! X-UIDL: 2cd90fe89c6effd3220d5fce303ed004 From: "Andy Kinsella" Chris Seward said this... > From: Chris Seward > > Following the sucess of the 'you ask them' idea which was used with Petro > where you the people on the JUST-AMiGA mailing list get to ask the > questions we are running it again. This time we have secured an interview > with *Cvijan Cvijanovic* at *Digital Dreams Entertainment*. For those of > you > that do not know who these are, they are currently releasing *Wasted* > *Dreams* as well as working on other titles like Diablos Lands and > MegaPolice. > > We have the first (to my knowledge) interview with them and want your > questions, anything you want to know, Please send your question/s > to, *amiga@thefree.net* - thanks! > > Toodle Pip! > -- > Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net I have a question. What will be the next title for wasted dreams? 8) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Sat Apr 10 22:22:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA32408 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:22:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 23811 invoked by alias); 10 Apr 1999 21:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23805 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 21:25:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 21:25:41 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese23.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.123]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA14913 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:35:17 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:22:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts X-UIDL: 32aef1150bc0ef6e1974d58903cec528 From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Chris On 10-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > Wayne, > On 07-Apr-99, you wrote: > Whats this FREE personal and national rate numbers you run on your > web page? It not on my page but on a company called Grays Communications who I have used before and liked the service they provided me so I put thm in way signature, they are completely free as I said so visit http://listen.to/grays for me info or http://grays.nu if the redirection is busy. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Apr 10 22:42:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25596 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:32:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 2658 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 2651 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0000 Received: from du-024-0210.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0210.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.210]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06737 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:34:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 10 Apr 99 23:42:45 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y -" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <690.769T2251T14226036tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Redirection URL's (Was: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts) X-UIDL: ead8769c165a62af1f0fedf984a2cf83 Status: U From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 10-Apr-99 23:22:17, Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: > http://listen.to/grays for me info or http://grays.nu if the redirection > is busy. listen.to, come.to, surf.to etc all suck extremely hard. I estimate they have about 50% downtime, maybe more. OTOH I've only seen www.amiga.tm down a few times - you might want to try them out. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://surf.to/amisite, but not for long. #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 22659 2^28 blocks done -- Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. E. B. White ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! Accessories, Apparel, Gourmet, Jewelry, Kids, Outdoors, Sports, More! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bunton@acay.com.au Sun Apr 11 02:31:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA14416 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:29:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 27218 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 03:04:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27127 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 03:04:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 03:04:26 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912457.acay.com.au [203.19.124.57]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25343 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:32:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <3710099D.82F39F27@acay.com.au> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:31:57 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: star gemini 10x X-UIDL: cd7d890e8feced0e0532123cbebdb0a1 Status: U From: Frank Bunton ken wrote: > Well I found a Star Gemini 10x at the local thrift shop (that works) for > $20.00 > Even got a driver for it from aminet. > ........... .............. I still have my Star Gemini 10x sitting here from my C=64 days - it was a very popular printer for the C=64. When I got Amiga I got it to work by using Amiga's printer driver EpsonXold and it worked fairly well but I soon pensioned it off for a better one. I have a manual here somewhere but can't put my hands on it quickly so I will search around after I am off the web and get back to you next time I log on. The manual certainly gave all the settings for the dip switches at the back. > Also does this thing also do color ? I saw where > you can get 4 color ribbons for this printer.. >From memory it did not do colour but I will confirm when I find the manual Cheers for now .... -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Sun Apr 11 12:19:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09732 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:17:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 14295 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 11:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14279 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 11:51:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 11:51:20 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.144] (helo=p16.nas2.is5.u-net.net) by mserv1c.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10WKAS-0007JH-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:57 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Organization: Private User Date: 11 Apr 99 13:19:23 +0100 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000099] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Interview with Digital Dreams Entertainment, questions wanted! X-UIDL: 9ee7ce21b540102a8537b6e1875733f9 Status: U From: "Paul Dixon" In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Interview with Digital Dreams Entertainment, questions wanted!, Andy Kinsella, you said : > From: "Andy Kinsella" > > Chris Seward said this... > > > From: Chris Seward > > > > Following the sucess of the 'you ask them' idea which was used with Petro > > where you the people on the JUST-AMiGA mailing list get to ask the > > questions we are running it again. This time we have secured an interview > > with *Cvijan Cvijanovic* at *Digital Dreams Entertainment*. How far are they going to support the Amiga ? Are they now investing in more games or is the, to do list finished ? paul -- Norwich City FC forever The "AMIGA" lives on mailto:paul@valerie.u-net.com Norfolk Amiga user group http://www.valerie.u-net.com And now Monday night BOWLING league in Norwich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ck@mystcorp.com Sun Apr 11 13:42:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21922 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:45:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 16905 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 13:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16869 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 13:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 13:48:20 -0000 Received: from [195.102.191.176] (helo=myst00003) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10WKad-00057E-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:47:59 +0100 Message-Id: <4.1.19990411143858.009c3950@mail.u-net.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990411143858.009c3950@mail.u-net.com> X-Sender: mystcorp@mail.u-net.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:42:15 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Conor Kerr In-Reply-To: References: <000601be820a$c855c2a0$02000003@pii400> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] War (was Re: unsubscribe) X-UIDL: cfaa2b117fb1a9ed3b08ce971bad7259 Status: U From: Conor Kerr Hi, >If you are going to talk about Kosovo or whatever and think it is >alright to send out messages for or against Nato action We're not, Ralph rightly informed that the place for this was not the list. However, I thought that the original mail was better directed to the list to bring to the attention of those who hadn't noticed what Lupus had said on the list. I made the mistake though of not making it clear that all further coments should be made privately. Sorry ;) >then you >will be removed from the list instantly with no hope of returing to >it. Of course what is going on is very worrying but this has nothing >to do with the Amiga and should not be discussed on this list. I thought that this was very strong though Chris! (And not in a good way) All the best... Conor Kerr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 11 18:19:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28824 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:07:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 11903 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 21:24:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11716 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:24:42 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.192] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10WRR4-0006SY-00; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:06:37 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:19:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Foo: Bar X-Zero-Hour: in 630 days, 4 hours, 40 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: 1167bb730ee337b3f7549c780a26b825 Status: U From: Stephen Williams Linus Akesson wrote: > 1. Linus Torvalds can be considered a 'star'. Bill Gates too, although > he's a bit more hated. Bill Gates is a "star" in business circles really. He hasn't written any code for about fifteen years. Microsoft is phenomenally successful because of Big Bill's business acumen, not his coding ability (or lack of it - it's been said that he was never that hot a coder, although that might just be sour grapes). Linus Torvalds I agree with you on. Eric S. Raymond and Richard Stallman could be considered "stars" for the same reason. Shame that J. Random Loser has never heard of these people. > And the big guy at the top of the pyramid gets all the money anyway. It sucks, doesn't it :-S Be careful who you complain to though, or people will call you a "communist" (even though most people don't even know what that really means) and won't take you seriously. > 3. Who hasn't heard of Martin Galway and Rob Hubbard? Those were the days. And Allister Brimble and Bjorn Lynne, both of whom now record audio CDs in addition to their computer projects. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 11 18:23:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28817 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:07:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 30239 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 20:56:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 30110 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:56:17 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.192] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10WRR8-0006SY-00; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:06:39 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:23:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Foo: Bar X-Zero-Hour: in 630 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ohh Chris does waffle... X-UIDL: ab0ecda7ba327dfe866b1e7b23f8037d Status: U From: Stephen Williams Andrew Crowe wrote: > Well, maybe the programmers arn't in it for the fame, they're in it for > the money? Hell, as long as I got a big juicy pay cheque at the end of > each month I don't think I'd care if anyone knew I'd programmed it. I personally get more satisfaction from distributing software for free, and people emailing me and saying "I like your free software". I code for money because I need to eat and put a roof over my head. Money on its own is a poor motivator for me. Someone taking the trouble to tell me I did a good job gives me much more of a buzz. What's the difference between me and a prostitute? She sells her body. I sell my brain. Not that much difference when you think about it. Capitalism sucks. Money sucks. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Sun Apr 11 18:37:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27624 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:37:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 17986 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 17:26:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17930 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese3.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.103]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA24730 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:50:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:37:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <953.769T387T9192836jonasth@bahnhof.se> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Flash on Amiga X-UIDL: 8d4ec072464a1ecd39cdac8eeb7ae166 Status: U From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Jonas On 10-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: "Jonas Thorell" > Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: >> I saw something a whilee back syaing that flash was now posssible on >> the Amiga, but I can't seem to find anything on the net about it. >> Does anyone know where the s/ware or info has be found. > Macromedia's shockwave flash? That one's certainly possible. > I can't find the url again but just let me know and I mail you the archive. Yep That the one I meant, Thnaks for offering to send it to me, I would love it. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Sun Apr 11 18:42:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27687 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:42:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 4443 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 17:30:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4433 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 17:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 17:30:21 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese3.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.103]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA24763 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:55:27 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <690.769T2251T14226036tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Redirection URL's (Was: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts) X-UIDL: cbe40ba53e03418f038f6ef769dcc405 Status: U From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Thomas On 10-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: "Thomas Hurst" > Hi > On 10-Apr-99 23:22:17, Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: >> http://listen.to/grays for me info or http://grays.nu if the redirection >> is busy. > listen.to, come.to, surf.to etc all suck extremely hard. I estimate they > have about 50% downtime, maybe more. I know they are either down or just too busy. The only reliable one I have found is here.is which as you can see is what I use. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sun Apr 11 19:39:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA23977 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:36:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 4998 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 1999 20:05:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4944 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.65.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:05:36 -0000 Received: from [148.176.232.86] (helo=e1c2p22.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10WR0t-0004W5-00; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:39:31 +0100 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: Me, organised. hah ha ha Date: 11 Apr 99 20:39:48 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <690.769T2251T14226036tom.hurst@clara.net> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Redirection URL's X-UIDL: 04bcb18b140ac4bdf2fb46c89f8de0ac Status: U From: "Richard Lane" Hi Thomas Hurst, In reference to "[just-amiga] Redirection URL's (Was: [just-amiga] Re: WordWorth 5 SE fonts)", > From: "Thomas Hurst" > > Hi > > On 10-Apr-99 23:22:17, Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - (wayne@here.is) wrote: > > > http://listen.to/grays for me info or http://grays.nu if the redirection > > is busy. > > listen.to, come.to, surf.to etc all suck extremely hard. I estimate they > have about 50% downtime, maybe more. I've got one these too, http://surf.to/magnum-opus but I've never botherd to promote is as like you I've found it to be extremely unreliable. I much prefer to use its full URL as prestel have been *very* reliable. > > OTOH I've only seen www.amiga.tm down a few times - you might want to try > them out. Hmmmmm, Not tried this one, I'll have to take a look sometime. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk List Owner: AmiWebMaster http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/AmiWebMaster Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Sun Apr 11 23:00:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA10772 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:03:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 6724 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 01:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6705 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 01:31:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 01:31:58 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA19135 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:05:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Sun, 11 Apr 99 18:00:00 -0500 Message-ID: <923924165@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT K/S X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Programming Stars! X-UIDL: 3921729c284cfdb90882737ab41f7ac0 Status: U From: Rich Holtzschue Greets- Linus Akesson wrote: LA> And Allister Brimble and Bjorn Lynne, both of whom now record audio CDs LA> in addition to their computer projects. Altho not strictly a programmer let's not forget Raymond Kurzweil. Kurzweil reading machine, Kurzweil keyboard, among other things. _rich_ AmigaLine BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* The light at the end of the tunnel is a person with a lamp coming toward you ... looking for the end of the tunnel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Mon Apr 12 11:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01506 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:53:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 3927 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 17:14:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3442 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:54:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 30057 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:09:56 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-354.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.98) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:09:56 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:30:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip X-UIDL: d187228f846d1eba77c69cabc22829f1 Status: U From: Phil Price On 10-Apr-99 Chris Seward said, about '[just-amiga] Re: UK shells and irc spoof ip': > From: Chris Seward > > Phil, > > On 05-Apr-99, you wrote: > >> there are three sort's of Spoofing Telnet, IRC and TCP, all are > > I do not exactly agree, Telnet is not spoofing, you can telnet > in to a Linux or Unix server or even something running SunOS > etc. etc. These are shells and things like @i.eat.at.macd0nald.com > are registered domains being subdomained to have bits before > macd0nald. IRC is not spoofing, spoofing is spoofing and you can > spoof your IP to anything, ie. web pages, irc servers whatever. Well Your wrong here Chirs, As I looked up the subdomian name of macd0nalds.com did not exist, therefore it was no a true subdomain name of macd0nlads.com, i know about this as i've got a Zonefile DNS subdomain thing for amigacentral check out sex.amigacentral.com :) You'll see what i mean. Or even warez.amigacentral.com :) And by telnetspoofing i mean connecting on port 23 (telnet) with a fak or spoffed host, not telnetting into a box and then spoofing from there. >> > Not exactly true to my knoledge either. The IP is not part of the > unix irc client, firstly you have to buy a Shell which gives you > a certain amount of space to run unix/linux programs, bitchx, > ircII, ircd, eggdrop whatever. Then you registered the domain > macd0nalds.com or whatever you want, then subdomain to the > words before, this way your IP is being 'pulled' to be used as > i.steal.things.from.macd0nalds.com or whatever you choose. Hmm, Okay, but i think this is wrong agian as i pinged the host as i said and it did not resolve or exist's, any how i knew some 1 on IRC who had 200 VHost's, for what ever reason he'd want then for :) > As far as I can tell know one on the list knows and what I already > know seems to be the most anyone on the list knows on this > subject unless some clever d*ck is hiding :) Naw i know all this stuff in this mail, just did not over complicate things. > Spoofing your IP occours when you source-route your > packets - i.e. the data you send to a distant host has both the > destination address and your false source address. Really ? I never knew that :) > As far as I can tell most if not ALL ircd do what is called IDENT, > this sends back data packets to the suppied IP address to > check if it is real, this is where the IP spoof would occour, but > how is not something I know yet. Nor that :) (BTW You can turn IDENT off, and IRCNET does not check, along with a few other's) > Quoting "Oh and don't ask me how i got them, or how i know all > this stuff ;)" I don't seem to understand because I don't really > see what you know, so how can you say this ;)? Eheh :) Do you want them spoofing EXE's or not i have got them, nd they probally work but i can't find a cache or begin host. And Chris, When some 1 is trying to help you it's good pratice to be nice to them and just say there wrong to embarress them and make your head even bigger. PS. You can't slag my spelling off as i admit i am dislexic ! So there :) Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Mon Apr 12 12:39:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29467 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:25:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 1751 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 17:36:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29545 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:24:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:24:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29901 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:09:20 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-354.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.98) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:09:20 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:39:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] CD-RW's X-UIDL: 191b7414c4117366c8fa71424e8c277f Status: U From: Phil Price Hello, I'm going to get my self a CD-R(W) and i'm wondering what is the best CD creation tool on the amiga (like MakeCD) and were can i find a list of what it is compatiable with. Also woudl any one suggest a good CD-R for around £150 ? I saw a CD-RW (that's CD rewtire i'm not shure of the initails) In a computer shop were my nan lives that was 2x2x6 for £149.99 is that any good ? (I think it was a creative labs one). Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Mon Apr 12 15:43:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08687 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:35:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 31336 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 18:18:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 31207 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:18:04 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.119] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB8357CE0098; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:29:23 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:43:38 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Amos Pro V1.12 and Ultimate Amos Book !FOR SALE! X-UIDL: 252556c3110c16c880dbff6a29f78ef6 Status: U From: Chris Seward Amos Pro V1.0 with update disk to V1.12, full manual and original disks, excellent condition - £25 inc. p&p Ultimate Amos Book with example disk also for sale. £10 inc. p&p UK offers only, cheques payable to 'Carl Seward' or cash at your *own risk*. Email first to reserve either or both items or/and send money to, Carl Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside, L62 9EU. Heafty postage included in all prices! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 12 17:45:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA31905 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:42:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 3354 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 17:58:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3293 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:58:49 -0000 Received: from [212.228.65.251] (helo=pc300a) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10WklS-000OSe-0K for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:44:54 +0000 Message-ID: <006d01be850c$4e544580$32aefea9@pc300a> From: "Gavin Williams" To: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:45:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CD-RW's X-UIDL: 889247184e84248e622842c3c94a9a08 Status: U From: "Gavin Williams" Hi Phil I know it's a bit above your price range but the Yamaha CDRW 4416 is the dogs dangly bits. 16x read, 4x write, 4xrewrite. SCSI. Gavin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr 12 17:56:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08774 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:41:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 1796 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 18:11:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 1788 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:11:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:11:15 -0000 Received: from modem-4.molybdenum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.20.132] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Wl6C-0006SB-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:06:21 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: The Conscience of a Hacker X-UIDL: 168905145b9b6832a5b54c23ddfe4409 Status: U From: Matthew O'Neill >What's the difference between me and a prostitute? She sells her >body. I sell my brain. Not that much difference when you think >about it. Capitalism sucks. Money sucks. so does the prostitute ;) -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan An agreeable person: One who agrees with you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! Accessories, Apparel, Gourmet, Jewelry, Kids, Outdoors, Sports, More! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Mon Apr 12 19:40:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22907 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:13:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 31984 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 20:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31976 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:29:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:29:58 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip460.nordwest.net [134.106.225.204]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA15579 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:13:44 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:40:09 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 826db698fd8282181fe1693368cccb84 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello everybody! I have some questions here I`ve been worrying about for quite some time now. Any help`s welcome! 1. Where can I get `RAplay`? Aminet search didn`t produce anything real. 2. I`m using Wordworth (v7) and MUI and YAM and STfax and DOpus (v5.62) and bla+blubb: Now when Opus runs and I try to start WW, WW will perfectly hang and crash the sys. The other way round, ie. first WW, then Opus, works fine. If WW runs and I start STfax (uniconified), I get a crash in 85% of the times. Doing it the other way round is even worse. Having YAM open and also WW, starting STfax won`t produce probs in *most* of the cases. Any idea to fix this behavior? 3. I got the latest Version of MagicMenu (v2.25), but i can`t config it. As it is a commodity, popping it up won`t work with me (expect that it accesses HD a bit). 4. Does anyone know of a programme that saves urls to disk and that works? Saving complete sites (with pictures and links) would be nice. HTTPResume with etAllHTML.rexx has no effect. Is it possible to ftp www.pages with a ftp-client? 5. Im looking for a web-service that sends SMS-messages to cellular phones (especially in Germany) and that does it for free ;) (I`m convinced there`s such a miracle...) 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Doing it the other way round is even worse. Having YAM open and also >WW, starting STfax won`t produce probs in *most* of the cases. >Any idea to fix this behavior? Don't use MUI ! Sorry but thats a common problem. I'll be cranking along with aweb, YAM will be sitting in the background, then kick into gear to pick up mail and crash... animated or big GIF pix in aweb cause the crashing also. And I've heard even more aiming their fingers at MUI. Might be some sort of conflict with MUI and Classact.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk Mon Apr 12 22:17:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01954 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:28:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 29479 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 21:46:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 29468 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:46:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (195.44.54.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:46:54 -0000 Received: by mail.jakinternet.co.uk from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:29:26 +0100 Received: from free4all.co.uk [212.41.33.73] by mail.jakinternet.co.uk [195.44.54.75] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id B99EB580F0EF11D299DD006067311B2C for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:29:24 0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:17:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SLUIDL: 749D389A-F10B11D2-99DD0060-67311B2C Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 6f56737e21d466e36bb525c054ebc59e Status: U From: Nik Williams Hello ken On 12-Apr-99, you wrote: >> If WW runs and I start STfax (uniconified), I get a crash in 85% of the >> times. Doing it the other way round is even worse. Having YAM open and also >> WW, starting STfax won`t produce probs in *most* of the cases. >> Any idea to fix this behavior? > > Don't use MUI ! > > Sorry but thats a common problem. I'll be cranking along with aweb, YAM will > be sitting in the background, then kick into gear to pick up mail and > crash... > animated or big GIF pix in aweb cause the crashing also. And I've heard even > more aiming their fingers at MUI. > Might be some sort of conflict with MUI and Classact.. Sorry to butt in guys, but I use IBrowse (demo) & YAM2, sometimes when Yam fetches mail it crashes & for no apparent reason. I haven't really taken much notice over this debate about MUI & Classact until I noticed the post above. BTW, even IBrowse crashes for no apparent reason. Is it MUI causing these crashes then? I tried using Aweb & Voyager but I thought they were a bit slow so I'll stick with IBrowse for now (& put up with the odd crash ;-) ) -- Nik Williams Peterborough England ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From rcwash@concentric.net Mon Apr 12 22:33:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13204 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:32:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 22833 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 22:20:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22608 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uhura.concentric.net) (206.173.118.93) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:20:25 -0000 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA21025; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:33:51 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from pa9300rcwash.micro.lucent.com (ts001d34.har-pa.concentric.net [206.173.37.46]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA00476; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371274CE.24F7@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:33:50 -0400 From: Bob Washburne X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Docs for Vector Accelerator? X-UIDL: 079c1610808c34923591fdb0bd1cf4f6 Status: U From: Bob Washburne Greetings! A While back I bought a "Vector Accellerator" 68020 card for my A2000 at a flea market. The price was right, but it did not come with any docs. There are many, many jumpers on this card all cleverly labled JP1, JP2, etc. The card has many features, such as SCSI adaptor. Needless to say, the machine won't boot when I plug it in. I suspect that the card would work, if only I had the docs to properly set all the jumpers. And the company is long out of business. So...would anyone out there happen to have or know where I could find the docs to this card? I am willing to pay good money for photocopying and postage. Thanks for any help, Bob Washburne rcwash@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 12 22:42:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04364 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:41:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 15026 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 21:44:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 14985 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:44:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:44:26 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (max01-074.enterprise.net [194.72.195.74]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11355 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:43:41 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Chris Seward email address doesn't work. X-UIDL: 2018e6290caf36a9e012311bb63b3c69 Status: U From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, or Chris Seward more specifically... Chris, look what happened when I emailed the gfx to you (or at least tried) The original message was received at Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:28:01 +0100 (GMT/BST) from max01-074.enterprise.net [194.72.195.74] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.thefree.net.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 not local host thefree.net, not a gateway 550 ... User unknown Whats going on here then? Has your email server gone down or something, or a typo somewhere? Anyway, how do I get the new button to you? (Other people please ignore this) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andyl@zetnet.co.uk Mon Apr 12 22:59:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA06953 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:00:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 14746 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 22:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14704 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:18:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:18:47 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-026.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.32]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id XAA11466 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:02:02 +0100 From: andrew lowes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:59:08 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] ffnews website X-UIDL: 941a63629e14c98a22466a3300ce17a1 Status: U From: andrew lowes Does anybody have the URL of the ffnews update website? It was printed in Amiga Format recently but I've managed to lose my copy. -- ------------------------------------ Andrew Lowes will be repeated via a time warp in 1975. ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Mon Apr 12 23:01:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07519 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:01:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 21006 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 21:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21001 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:29:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:29:09 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19310 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc3-26.digital.net [206.228.238.26]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11152 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:03:29 -0400 (EDT) From: ken To: Nik Williams Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:01:29 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 1c3ed8a7ede533b258aa92772ac1bb1a Status: U From: ken > Sorry to butt in guys, but I use IBrowse (demo) & YAM2, sometimes when >Yam fetches mail it crashes & for no apparent reason. I haven't really taken >much notice over this debate about MUI & Classact until I noticed the post >above. BTW, even IBrowse crashes for no apparent reason. Is it MUI causing >these crashes then? I tried using Aweb & Voyager but I thought they were a >bit slow so I'll stick with IBrowse for now (& put up with the odd crash ;-) I think it's the Amigas.. I'm sure they're running one program or another and then crash. Or maybe just quitting a program, who knows why or for that matter what program is running the Amigas are prone to crashing.. Funny but I can't recall my Timex 1000 ever doing all this crashing.. I do know the 64 and 128 both had to be reset often but those for just locking, which isn't far removed from a guru. As long as I have nothing running or touching any keys the amiga runs.. Big deal, highly unproductive. Fire up ANY program and odds are favorable there's going to be a crash. It all seems to be just a matter of whats happening when the crash occurs. I'd guess it has more to do with timing and the amigas special design. How long can you rub your stomach, hop on one foot and whistle before crashing ? Thats how I see the amigas multitasking. Something has to give eventually ie:try to pat your stomach vs rub it and crash. I'd guess since running snoopdos with enforcer invariably stops my crashing entirely. It is a timing problem as snoopdos and enforcer both make everything come to a crawl so these programs can check whats happening. before letting it happen. Having executive running to a degree could minimize crashing almost as well as the combo of snoopdos and enforcer. I was asked to find the GIF problem so added all those program monitors (and a watched pot never boils) and couldn't get a crash to happen no matter how overloaded I made things. There must have been 12-15 items running with all those extras turned on, but snoopdos and enforcer just wouldn't allow the amiga to trip on itself. Without these on, I could usually just be scanning a page, or scrolling a page and watch it crash. If you can live with a slower machine this combo of enforcer and snoopdos can almost eliminate your crashes. Eventually I did get a crash. It was always while loading an animated GIF into aweb. It's not aweb specific. I also had the same crashes with voyager and animated gifs. Which makes me think the gif datatypes aren't up to par.. But then what with all the different PC formats of GIF and JPG, guess it's lucky the amiga can run these files at all without crashing.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon Apr 12 23:12:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA20288 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:17:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 4792 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 1999 23:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 4728 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:35:24 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-144.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.144]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Wpzb-00078v-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:19:51 +0100 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 12 Apr 99 23:12:49 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 34666ad7af101ee11f3e865d87fbac43 Status: U From: "Andy Kinsella" uLf iTl Seemann said this... > From: uLf "iTl" Seemann > > Hello everybody! > I have some questions here I`ve been worrying about for quite some time now. > Any help`s welcome! > > 4. Does anyone know of a programme that saves urls to disk and that works? > Saving complete sites (with pictures and links) would be nice. HTTPResume > with etAllHTML.rexx has no effect. > Is it possible to ftp www.pages with a ftp-client? What you need is TCPDL available from www.ramjam.u-net.com It will do exactly what you want. -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From RSisk@world.std.com Tue Apr 13 08:24:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA07880 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:45:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 31742 invoked by alias); 13 Apr 1999 09:04:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31735 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 09:04:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europe.std.com) (199.172.62.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 09:04:27 -0000 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id EAA03544; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from World.STD.Com (ppp0a014.std.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA22755; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:48:32 -0400 From: "Robert A. Sisk" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:24:14 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <923991164@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Need help using CD-ROM drive X-UIDL: 83c4270966bc31342aa38fdc27ce8657 Status: U From: "Robert A. Sisk" On 13-Apr-99, Rich Holtzschue wrote: > I then discovered that the Pioneer required the CDs to be placed in the > trays with the LABEL SIDE DOWN! > Not sure this applies at all. I loaded a couple of disks label side down, but they still weren't recognized. Thank you for responding, though. -- Bob Robert A. 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Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Tue Apr 13 19:10:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28840 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:04:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 13852 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 16:50:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 13795 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 16:50:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 16:50:53 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.166] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id ca732890 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:04:13 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:10:14 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1396.772T814T9134351tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 3d4fb0a9b1831f6cc67ed47caa1696f9 Status: U From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Thomas! On 13-Apr-99, you wrote: > Now, MCP, that's different. MCP crashes my machine every 6 hours like > clockwork - I get a series of CyberGuard hits and then a crash from > WorkBench, with SegTracker pointing the finger at CGX and MCP. I only use > a handful of MCP features, too. I'd use MCX but it doesn't have the > features I want. What version of MCP do you use? The latest (1.33a21)? -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 13 21:46:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA05025 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:46:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 25131 invoked by alias); 13 Apr 1999 21:14:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24834 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:14:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:14:10 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip629.nordwest.net [134.106.229.117]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA32352 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:46:02 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:46:47 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HTML into ps/pdf X-UIDL: 873ee5a97f82e579632472ac29d848b9 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Stephen Stephen Williams yelled out on 13-Apr-99 regarding [just-amiga] Re: HTML into ps/pdf: > From: Stephen Williams > Borrow a PC and print them to a file using Netscape. That'll get > you a Postscript file (Lamedows will give it a .prn extension, but > you can rename it). Thanks Stephen for advice. Anyway, can you do it on the Amiga? Regardz, uLpf -- . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 13 23:41:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02117 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:21:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 13278 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 1999 20:05:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13245 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:05:30 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip411.nordwest.net [134.106.225.155]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA24822 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:20:50 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: d1241b91cee99b362fb31365ac3d5e85 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Andy Andy Kinsella yelled out on 13-Apr-99 regarding [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems: >> 4. Does anyone know of a programme that saves urls to disk and that >> works? Saving complete sites (with pictures and links) would be nice. >> HTTPResume with etAllHTML.rexx has no effect. Is it possible to ftp >> www.pages with a ftp-client? > What you need is TCPDL available from www.ramjam.u-net.com > It will do exactly what you want. Well, I tried it, but it didn`t work. In fact, it was doin` nothing. But I`ll have another try on it, perhaps I just have to igure it out... Thanks anyway. Regardz, uLpf . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 13 23:50:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02113 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:21:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 6412 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 1999 20:41:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 6322 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:41:22 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip411.nordwest.net [134.106.225.155]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA24815 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:20:48 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:50:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <825.772T2624T8985925tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 5eddbfad4727fc466d3f54b13f20faa3 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Thomas Thomas Hurst yelled out on 13-Apr-99 regarding [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems: >> What you need is TCPDL available from www.ramjam.u-net.com >> It will do exactly what you want. > As will WGet, which is more general purpurse - continues batch downloads > from http or ftp 'n stuff. Never heard ofit :) Thats why i`m just heading off ..can`t wait to have it run (hopefully it does!) ;o Regardz, uLpf -- . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Wed Apr 14 00:35:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA31956 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:33:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 8693 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 00:21:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8522 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 00:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 00:21:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22327 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:36:02 -0500 Received: from mw-pm5-5.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (12.5.164.35) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:36:02 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:35:41 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371274CE.24F7@concentric.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Docs for Vector Accelerator? X-UIDL: d095efc0bff00b23156b9b0ac5a34b53 Status: U From: Kenneth Craig Hello Bob, On 12-Apr-99, Bob Washburne wrote: > From: Bob Washburne > > Greetings! > > A While back I bought a "Vector Accellerator" 68020 card for my A2000 > at a flea market. The price was right, but it did not come with any > docs. > > There are many, many jumpers on this card all cleverly labled JP1, > JP2, etc. The card has many features, such as SCSI adaptor. Needless > to say, the machine won't boot when I plug it in. > > I suspect that the card would work, if only I had the docs to properly > set all the jumpers. And the company is long out of business. > > So...would anyone out there happen to have or know where I could find > the docs to this card? I am willing to pay good money for photocopying > and postage. > > Thanks for any help, > Don't know if this will help but there is a DMS'ed install disk listed for the IVSVector A2000 accelerator at this URL: http://www.L8R.net/install/accel.html Maybe the docs are on the disk. Kenneth -- Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From joopdejong@wxs.nl Wed Apr 14 15:31:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA22003 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:27:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 949 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 1999 23:15:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 483 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 23:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp04.wxs.nl) (195.121.6.59) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 23:15:36 -0000 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.43.127]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA43BC; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:28:40 +0200 From: * de Jong * To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: ken Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:31:11 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: dc9fd0f037bf6e176f47a64ff532af93 Status: U From: * de Jong * Hello ken On 13-Apr-99 ken wrote: > what program is running the Amigas are prone to crashing.. > > Funny but I can't recall my Timex 1000 ever doing all this crashing.. > I do know the 64 and 128 both had to be reset often but those for just > locking, which isn't far removed from a guru. You can't seriously compare C64's and Amiga's :). Amiga's are more complex with multitasking, library's, devices and many programs that could crash if one of them has a bug. > As long as I have nothing running or touching any keys the amiga runs.. > Big deal, highly unproductive. > > Fire up ANY program and odds are favorable there's going to be a crash. It > all Are you sure you aren't talking about a pc?? > I'd guess it has more to do with timing and the amigas special design. The only serious bug I've encountered on my Amiga is when I play a MOD with Hippoplayer and scroll a guide in Multiview. (on which the computer locks up) Why would the design of the Amiga crash it? Because it would be too hard to program it and that way invites bugs to come?? Than that software just isn't tested good enough. > I'd guess since running snoopdos with enforcer invariably stops my > crashing entirely. It is a timing problem as snoopdos and enforcer both > make everything > > come to a crawl so these programs can check whats happening. before > letting it > > happen. > > Having executive running to a degree could minimize crashing almost as > well as > > the combo of snoopdos and enforcer. > > I was asked to find the GIF problem so added all those program monitors (and a > watched pot never boils) and couldn't get a crash to happen no matter how > overloaded I made things. > Eventually I did get a crash. It was always while loading an animated GIF > into aweb. > It's not aweb specific. I also had the same crashes with voyager and > animated gifs. Then use IBrowse :). > Which makes me think the gif datatypes aren't up to par.. > > But then what with all the different PC formats of GIF and JPG, guess it's > lucky the amiga can run these files at all without crashing.. -- Mark de Jong - Member of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS* ICQ: 16523430 IRC: Niceguy on #amiganl, #AMOS URL: http://fly.to/AmigaHeaven ------------------------------------------------------------------------ shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! 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I've been thru it this past few months when the Quantum 1.3 died. My HDTOOLS can't tell a thing.. I went and got the Buddha and an IBM 10gig. That ran maybe 2 weeks. Master / slave meant zip.. Stuck it on the 386 PC, PC uses 8 of the 10 gigs. Even it can't handle that much drive. So took the 2.1 gig from the PC, again master / slave on this WD 2.1 gig mean zip to HDtools. This one also still appears as unit 0. >The IDE bus implimentation in amigas is actually a fudged SCSI device, >it will always appear as 0. So whats the argument. Course this all may mean nothing as I haven't found anyone even using the Buddha on an a3k. It may work completely different on an a1200 or a4k. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From daz@sunhawk.u-net.com Wed Apr 14 16:44:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21203 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:00:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 24375 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 22:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24331 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:26:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is4.u-net.net) (195.102.240.153) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:26:50 -0000 Received: from sunhawk.u-net.com [195.102.198.162] by serv1.is4.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 10XYfd-0007nA-00; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:02:13 +0000 From: Darren Stevens To: Chris Seward Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:44:14 WET0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: See throughs disks? X-UIDL: 66c4981b9a60ed8b912fee3903727363 Status: U From: Darren Stevens On 02-Apr-99, Chris Seward wrote: >Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came >on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you >can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a Well, as no-one else seems to have spotted - I'll tell you - PC World sell them, or rather my local one does. TDK-Neons - you get 2 greens, blue, orange and red (2 of each colour) About a fiver for 10. They're High Density but that shouldn't be too much of a problem should it? Hope this helps! Darren ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Wed Apr 14 17:19:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA30068 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:16:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 21471 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 17:49:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 21455 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 17:49:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sheppard.torfree.net) (199.71.188.24) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 17:49:32 -0000 Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1478 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Fastview not working X-UIDL: 95dd08586b398de9ce820223ccd4abc3 Status: U From: Pat Kushko > From: jack york > > Since I added the graphics board to my system and switched to a different > driver for workbench (instead of the hi-res I had been using) the picture > viewer FastView no longer works. The message given is failed to open > screen. Does anyone know if this utility should work with the graphics > board - maybe an option I'm not aware of? If not, what is a good viewer to > use? I have tried a few others but they are either too slow for my taste > or are specific to one file type (jpg, iff, etc.). Yes I miss all those Amiga mode/screen viewers too. Visage, CyberView/Show, V, MysticView, Superview, work on multiple image formats some with more features than others. I suspect visage would be a the top of most peoples charts for all round viewers and datatype viewers the least liked. -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Wed Apr 14 17:23:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23923 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:35:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 10751 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 16:06:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 10737 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 16:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 16:06:25 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137071.voyager.net [209.153.137.71]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager) with SMTP id MAA21941 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:23:07 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Fastview not working X-UIDL: 5b79d858e2d618e028c5839293017be9 Status: U From: jack york Hello, Since I added the graphics board to my system and switched to a different driver for workbench (instead of the hi-res I had been using) the picture viewer FastView no longer works. The message given is failed to open screen. Does anyone know if this utility should work with the graphics board - maybe an option I'm not aware of? If not, what is a good viewer to use? I have tried a few others but they are either too slow for my taste or are specific to one file type (jpg, iff, etc.). Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Wed Apr 14 20:49:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00869 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:48:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 26800 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 20:14:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 26764 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 20:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 20:14:05 -0000 Received: from du-024-0012.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0012.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.12]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20328 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:48:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 14 Apr 99 21:49:27 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Riccardo Cretti" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <874.773T1359T13094856tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 0342a599ef61170d5d76220bfd852ff9 Status: U From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 13-Apr-99 20:10:14, Riccardo Cretti (CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com) wrote: > From: Riccardo Cretti > Hello Thomas! > On 13-Apr-99, you wrote: >> Now, MCP, that's different. MCP crashes my machine every 6 hours like >> clockwork - I get a series of CyberGuard hits and then a crash from >> WorkBench, with SegTracker pointing the finger at CGX and MCP. I only >> use a handful of MCP features, too. I'd use MCX but it doesn't have the >> features I want. > What version of MCP do you use? The latest (1.33a21)? Where did you get that? The latest on the AlienDesign HP is 1.32 beta12, as it has been for ages... Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://amisite.amiga.tm/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 24349 2^28 blocks done -- W*&t? I th^%k w% h@$% s%m# l&n$ n*&se. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From howardm@thenet.co.uk Wed Apr 14 20:56:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01048 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:55:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 2421 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 21:32:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2360 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:32:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.ldn1.uk.internetfci.net) (195.74.65.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:32:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29687 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 20:57:40 -0000 Received: from dip-195-74-66-213.thenet.co.uk (HELO thenet.co.uk) (howardm@195.74.66.213) by mailhost.ldn1.uk.internetfci.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 20:57:40 -0000 From: Howard Macartney To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:56:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Internal Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] SoftLogik X-UIDL: 2f0ca20eb9b29ab633dc7f592a7a7d8c Status: U From: Howard Macartney Hi, Does anybody know what has happened to SoftLogik Publishing. The Web site is no longer active and the mail lists stopped on March 11th 1999. I know they were moving but did not think this involved shutting down. Kind regards -- Howard Macartney. howardm@thenet.co.uk URL- http://www.thenet.co.uk/~howardm/ DTP, Photographic, hi-fi and men's health. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From daz@sunhawk.u-net.com Thu Apr 15 00:03:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA21217 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:00:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 29725 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 22:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29719 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is4.u-net.net) (195.102.240.153) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:47:42 -0000 Received: from sunhawk.u-net.com [195.102.198.162] by serv1.is4.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 10XYff-0007nA-00; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:02:15 +0000 From: Darren Stevens To: ken Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:03:04 WET0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: star gemini 10x X-UIDL: 6c2fac0dec32bacaeefafed9df85fd48 Status: U From: Darren Stevens On 13-Apr-99, ken wrote: >Well I found it will print from Textra also. But the gfx style editors, always A bit of background here. Amiga printing works in one of two ways - Text and graphics. Textra (and Ced GoldEd etc.) just send the ASCII codes of the text to the printer and the printer uses its own internal fonts. This is quite basic and would probably work with any printer driver. Graphics on the other hand are quite different... >go into sleep mode and turn the ready light off. >Actually the way the gfx programs are working is, they 1st do a little >something I'm interpreting as an initialization string, it seems to send a >single line feed. Nothing else, then says insert next page. (I got tired of >rerolling several yards of paper back into the thing everytime) then it sits a >few (timeout went from 60-90), I hit continue, and the ready light goes off >after a few secs the the 'trouble with printer or cables.' All classic signs of using the wrong printer driver or DIP Switch settings.. Your printer driver has sent a command to the printer to tell it that a graphics dump is coming, but the printer hasn't understood it. Hence blank pages/strange strings, as graphics bitmaps get printed as ASCII characters. I've looked up in my ROM Kernel Ref manual under printers and here is what EpsonXold says: density XDPI YDPI comments [....] 5 120 72 For use on old star printers 6 240 72 For use on old star printers Note: denity 6 cannot print adjacent horizontal dots. Use for B&W shaded dumps only. So try EpsonXold - Density 5 from your graphics util. And see if that has any effect. >But using SE or Textra it prints perfectly. I was hoping to be able to print >out some of these maps. But neither SE or Textra are going to be able to do >that. There is probably a printer driver for this printer somewhere out there! Aminet is always worth a check. Good luck! Darren ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Apr 15 00:12:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23272 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:11:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 28546 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 22:41:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28456 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:41:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:41:48 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-042.enterprise.net [194.72.195.162]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28468 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:13:01 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:12:11 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: See throughs disks? X-UIDL: ae5653e00be2a94e916d5e5e0ff74c55 Status: U From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came >> on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you >> can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a > Well, as no-one else seems to have spotted - I'll tell you - PC World sell > them, or rather my local one does. > TDK-Neons - you get 2 greens, blue, orange and red (2 of each colour) > About a fiver for 10. They're High Density but that shouldn't be too much > of a problem should it? Don't forget to stick a bit of tape over the HD hole though. Otherwise some drives won't like 'em. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Its the same room but everythings different, you can find the sleep but not the dream... -- Crowded House ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From jyork@voyager.net Thu Apr 15 00:54:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30471 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:56:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 11416 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 1999 23:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11403 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 23:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.voyager.net) (209.153.128.76) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 23:22:53 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137018.voyager.net [209.153.137.18]) by mail1.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager) with SMTP id TAA10854 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Fastview not working X-UIDL: 88eaf16cc69b3561b67a547474817a66 Status: U From: jack york Hello Pat On 14-Apr-99, Pat Kushko wrote: > From: Pat Kushko > >> From: jack york >> >> Since I added the graphics board to my system and switched to a different >> driver for workbench (instead of the hi-res I had been using) the picture >> viewer FastView no longer works. The message given is failed to open >> screen. Does anyone know if this utility should work with the graphics >> board - maybe an option I'm not aware of? If not, what is a good viewer >> to use? I have tried a few others but they are either too slow for my >> taste or are specific to one file type (jpg, iff, etc.). > > Yes I miss all those Amiga mode/screen viewers too. > > Visage, CyberView/Show, V, MysticView, Superview, work on multiple image > formats some with more features than others. I suspect visage would be I saw most of those on Aminet but had no way of telling which was which without going throught them all. You saved me a lot of time. Visage works fine. Thanks, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mjpicard@uswest.net Thu Apr 15 01:51:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA22437 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:00:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 9218 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 1999 06:03:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9211 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:03:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net) (206.81.192.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:03:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25243 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 1999 06:02:58 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-just-amiga@onelist.com@fixme Received: (qmail 25225 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 06:02:58 -0000 Received: from odsl68.sttl.uswest.net (HELO mjpicard) (216.160.65.68) by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:02:58 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01be86e2$8776e700$4441a0d8@mjpicard.sttl.uswest.net> From: "Michael Picard" To: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:51:49 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: See throughs disks? X-UIDL: 5d5ce8880f3eec6421bfa7eb2c194a9f Status: U From: "Michael Picard" > >Hi Everybody, > >>> Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came >>> on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you >>> can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a >> Well, as no-one else seems to have spotted - I'll tell you - PC World sell >> them, or rather my local one does. >> TDK-Neons - you get 2 greens, blue, orange and red (2 of each colour) >> About a fiver for 10. They're High Density but that shouldn't be too much >> of a problem should it? > > Don't forget to stick a bit of tape over the HD hole though. Otherwise >some drives won't like 'em. > >See ya. Office depot Also sells some of these. I work there And can get you an SKU# if you need it ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Thu Apr 15 18:57:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08579 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:03:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 15801 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 17:53:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 15705 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:53:53 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.186] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id na733785 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:03:24 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:57:24 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <874.773T1359T13094856tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 51125409099e8b078703fef4cc2f19a1 Status: U From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Thomas! On 14-Apr-99, you wrote: >>> Now, MCP, that's different. MCP crashes my machine every 6 hours like >>> clockwork - I get a series of CyberGuard hits and then a crash from >>> WorkBench, with SegTracker pointing the finger at CGX and MCP. I only >>> use a handful of MCP features, too. I'd use MCX but it doesn't have the >>> features I want. >> What version of MCP do you use? The latest (1.33a21)? > Where did you get that? The latest on the AlienDesign HP is 1.32 beta12, > as it has been for ages... Take some time also for me to find it, because it's strangely hidden on the Aliendesign server. The URL is http://www.aliendesign.net/MCPAlpha/ Also on onelist you can find the MCPList: a mailing list with a low, low, low traffic (average: less than one message per day! :) ). You can tell to the author, Michael Knoke, if there are problems with MCP. He is really helpful! PS: the new MCP 1.33 alpha 22 is near! :) -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Fri Apr 16 01:09:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA12018 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:46:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 10745 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 00:17:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10737 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 00:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 00:17:07 -0000 Received: from icon-23.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-23.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.23]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06114 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:49:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: 15 Apr 99 19:09:35 -0600 From: "William F. Maddock" To: "Howard Macartney" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <766.774T1762T11494399wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: SoftLogik X-UIDL: 2a157290e3d405b412b2935d75858b59 Status: U From: "William F. Maddock" On 14-Apr-99 14:56:32 howardm@thenet.co.uk Howard Macartney wrote: >From: Howard Macartney >Hi, > Does anybody know what has happened to SoftLogik Publishing. The Web >site is no longer active and the mail lists stopped on March 11th 1999. >I know they were moving but did not think this involved shutting down. The last contact I got was from the mailing list, in which Deron said he expected things to take a couple of weeks, give or take. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 15-Apr-99 19:08:23 CDT Wrfhf Yvirf mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6 Registered User Number 1621 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Fri Apr 16 09:54:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA23699 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:52:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 11133 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 09:13:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11120 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 09:13:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 09:13:16 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com ([194.119.178.106]) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10Y5L3-0002wQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:55:09 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 09:54:39 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Wed, 14 Apr 99 01:41:51) Lines: 18 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 3734a30dc56ae66d666e50fe31deb240 Status: U From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi uLf > > What you need is TCPDL available from www.ramjam.u-net.com > > It will do exactly what you want. > > Well, I tried it, but it didn`t work. In fact, it was doin` nothing. But > I`ll have another try on it, perhaps I just have to igure it out... > Thanks anyway. > If you have problems with it, just let me know. Tim -- ========================================================================== Ramjam Consultants Ltd, 28 Queensway, Caversham, Reading, RG4 6SQ, England e-mail: support@ramjam.u-net.com http://www.ramjam.u-net.com/ telephone: +44 (0)118 946 5940 fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Fri Apr 16 14:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13735 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:19:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 4289 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 15:09:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4282 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 15:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 15:09:50 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip566.nordwest.net [134.106.229.54]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04486 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:19:04 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:03:30 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: d8fac21fb267e4cbef7a9b9de45c8182 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hallo folks! Which is the best/ most usable offline(only)-browser around? Eh? :- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, uLf . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Fri Apr 16 14:16:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13746 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:19:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 28677 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 13:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28594 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 13:49:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.nordwest.net) (134.106.252.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 13:49:12 -0000 Received: from nordwest.net (teRRoR@ip566.nordwest.net [134.106.229.54]) by mail.nordwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04475 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:19:00 +0200 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:16:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: e97d6ef0594c2941c94fca75c3e08a85 Status: U From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Dr.Abdulkadir Dr.Abdulkadir SIRMA yelled out on 13-Apr-99 regarding [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems: > There are three RA archives in my DOWNL: directory. Here's URLs from > their filenotes: >> 5. Im looking for a web-service that sends SMS-messages to cellular > There was two or three links for you at: > http://www.mtn.co.za/sms/other.html Many thanks! The RA-links are ok. Regardz . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Fri Apr 16 18:48:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA30719 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:18:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 20080 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 19:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20075 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from du-024-0124.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0124.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.124]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15039 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:18:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 16 Apr 99 19:48:27 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Riccardo Cretti" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <951.775T1354T11885159tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 763844932a0c1a46eb00fbb4a4184ef9 Status: U From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 15-Apr-99 19:57:24, Riccardo Cretti (CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com) wrote: >>> What version of MCP do you use? The latest (1.33a21)? >> Where did you get that? The latest on the AlienDesign HP is 1.32 >> beta12, as it has been for ages... > Take some time also for me to find it, because it's strangely hidden on > the Aliendesign server. The URL is http://www.aliendesign.net/MCPAlpha/ 'y know, there's probably a reason it's hidden :) > Also on onelist you can find the MCPList: a mailing list with a low, > low, low traffic (average: less than one message per day! :) ). I can cope with that :) > PS: the new MCP 1.33 alpha 22 is near! :) Any interesting feature additions since 1.32 beta? Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://amisite.amiga.tm/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 24535 2^28 blocks done -- If at first you don't succeed, you must be using Windows... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Fri Apr 16 18:49:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA07743 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:35:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 12597 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 23:56:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12587 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 23:56:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 23:56:22 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.208] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A8F988470142; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:34:17 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:49:03 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Typing Tutors? X-UIDL: 4db48aa50378d24e45e4fbad9594168f From: Chris Seward Hi, My Mum has just started on a beginners course to computers, as she is a TOTAL beginner, ie. basically doesn't know how to turn the computer on I am looking for some typing tutors that may help her. At collage they have to use Peecees so its best if you have ones that stay away from Amiga specific keys like the 'Amiga' key, doh! :) If anyone has a PC guide for the Amiga that is easy to use and understand that would be great but i doubt these exists ;) So if you have any EASY typing tutors that record times etc or maybe able to help her, i'd be most grateful, just email me personally if you can help. Yes, I know there are plenty on the Aminet but can anyone suggest a good one? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Fri Apr 16 18:49:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA30711 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:18:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 5081 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 18:44:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5067 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:44:03 -0000 Received: from du-024-0124.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-024-0124.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.124]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA15033 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:18:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 16 Apr 99 19:49:51 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "uLf "iTl" Seemann" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1009.775T2599T11896636tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 2a24d0b44dbcef0ba28b5e3efafa684e Status: U From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 14-Apr-99 00:50:31, uLf "iTl" Seemann (iTl@nWn.dE) wrote: >> As will WGet, which is more general purpurse - continues batch >> downloads from http or ftp 'n stuff. > Never heard ofit :) Thats why i`m just heading off ..can`t wait to have > it run (hopefully it does!) ;o wget-bin.lha dev/gg 120K 55+Retrieve files over net via HTTP and FTP wget-src.lha dev/gg 206K 55+Retrieve files over net via HTTP and FTP Free, open source, ftp and http support, resumes on both protocols, and if the server if crap wget just keeps going back to get it... tcpdl is better (much better - supports multiple connections and parses the html to point to your HD) for spidering web sites though. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://amisite.amiga.tm/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 24535 2^28 blocks done -- Never learn to do anything. 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Eh? :- HTMLView.mcc demo. http://www.DIKU.dk/students/duff/ IProbe Allan is developing is in beta, BTW. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://amisite.amiga.tm/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 24535 2^28 blocks done -- The lagging activity in a project will invariably be found in the area where highest overtime rates lie waiting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Apr 16 19:06:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18410 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:05:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 10262 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1999 18:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10251 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:43:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:43:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-055.enterprise.net [194.72.196.55]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06764 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:07:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:06:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: c514fc8ee8c7ab051a1c9421803926a3 Status: U From: Andrew Crowe > Which is the best/ most usable offline(only)-browser around? Eh? :- Whats wrong with using IBrowse? It can view pages you've visited offline. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From hwagner@primenet.com Sat Apr 17 03:54:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA18307 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:05:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 29706 invoked by alias); 17 Apr 1999 03:31:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29629 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:31:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp01.primenet.com) (206.165.6.131) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:31:32 -0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00876 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:07:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-69-092.obt.primenet.com(207.218.69.92), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd000821; Fri Apr 16 21:07:48 1999 From: Hilda To: Chris Seward Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:54:45 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Typing Tutors? X-UIDL: a61497b119a9fcde44b589aef580338f From: Hilda On 16-Apr-99, Chris Seward is alleged to have said... >From: Chris Seward >Hi, My Mum has just started on a beginners course to computers, as she >is a TOTAL beginner, ie. basically doesn't know how to turn the computer >on I am looking for some typing tutors that may help her. At collage they >have to use Peecees so its best if you have ones that stay away from >Amiga specific keys like the 'Amiga' key, doh! :) If anyone has a PC >guide for the Amiga that is easy to use and understand that would >be great but i doubt these exists ;) >So if you have any EASY typing tutors that record times etc or maybe >able to help her, i'd be most grateful, just email me personally if you >can help. >Yes, I know there are plenty on the Aminet but can anyone suggest >a good one? I have Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing For the Amiga. It was a commercial program, but as it is not sold anymore, it is open to question whether or not if I sent it to you - it would be pirating. It is a decent program - I still use it for typing practice - but for some reason can not be installed on my hard drive but must be booted from disc. If it is kosher, I'll send it to you. Hildey -- >-----------------------------------------------------------< #-=- Hilda Wagner-=-# hwagner@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~swans/ DISCLAIMER: No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this e-mail >-----------------------------------------------------------< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat Apr 17 07:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA11860 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:00:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 12394 invoked by alias); 17 Apr 1999 06:44:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 12374 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:44:46 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1097 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:03:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <535.775T1295T11924460tom.hurst@clara.net> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: ebbee8a9ab0b10da1ac95a2bc8e9a934 From: Pat Kushko > From: "Thomas Hurst" > > Hi > > On 16-Apr-99 15:03:30, uLf "iTl" Seemann (iTl@nWn.dE) wrote: > > > Which is the best/ most usable offline(only)-browser around? Eh? :- > > HTMLView.mcc demo. > > http://www.DIKU.dk/students/duff/ > > IProbe Allan is developing is in beta, BTW. I thought HTMLView.mcc was pretty good too, but it timed out. I updated and the update crashes out everytime. 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with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 21:27:40 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.185] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id sa734232 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:20:21 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:59:56 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <951.775T1354T11885159tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: e154e2d40e9ddd7824c6baaeb6c13e95 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Thomas! On 16-Apr-99, you wrote: [MCP] >> Take some time also for me to find it, because it's strangely hidden on >> the Aliendesign server. The URL is http://www.aliendesign.net/MCPAlpha/ > 'y know, there's probably a reason it's hidden :) Yeah... probably. :) >> Also on onelist you can find the MCPList: a mailing list with a low, >> low, low traffic (average: less than one message per day! :) ). > I can cope with that :) I hope so! :) I remember some time ago when Pure Amiga ML reached the number of around 170-180 messages per day! >> PS: the new MCP 1.33 alpha 22 is near! :) > Any interesting feature additions since 1.32 beta? The MCPPrefs are divided in functions and patches. There's a special MCP commodity that uses only the functions section of the preferences: probably if you have great problems with the patches, I think. I'm looking the MCPPrefs, and some new features are: - SwapJoyMousePort; - enhanced Snap; - enhanced ScreenManager; - new events for the Hotkeys; - enhanced AssignPrefs; - ecc... What do you think of SFS 1.61? -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sun Apr 18 00:46:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09462 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:04:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 8602 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 22:45:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8545 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:45:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:45:03 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.26] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AFF64C0F029E; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:11:02 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:46:13 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Get your web site advertised totally FREE! X-UIDL: 43ab68ba3a93d9fc387c71a9af541d0a From: Chris Seward We are still looking for your web sites, if you have a web site that is Amiga related or has things that can be used on the Amiga like patterns etc and you want to advertise it free, please fill in the little form below and return it to me at, amiga@thefree.net *---SNIP---* Name : URL : Desc : *---SNIP---* Name - The name of your site URL - The address of your site Desc - A 2 line (max) description of what can be found on your site. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Tue Apr 20 15:23:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA21124 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:16:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 9849 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 22:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9613 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:54:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.204) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:54:04 -0000 Received: from modem112.byers.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.239.112] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10ZiqJ-0001XR-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:18:12 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:23:01 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Yam2/p7 X-UIDL: c6f17adb4c27346a2869aa2eb6e5304c From: kevin gill Hello, > I am only a beginner and my computer iq is only very small > but I have noticed in my Yam raw format in "display maessage" > the following in my Yam-2 raw fomat display when attachments are added:- > Warning: This is a message in MIME foomat. > Your mail reader does not support MIME. > Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. > To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader What am I missing,I have Yam/preview7 and use regesterd Voyager and Miami? Kind regards Kev... ( collector of cardsets for klondike ) Email, kev@reko.karoo.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Rcwash@concentric.net Tue Apr 20 18:10:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16889 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:42:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 11303 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 19:30:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15594 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:01:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uhura.concentric.net) (206.173.118.93) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:01:42 -0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA22185; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:10:20 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA08127; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:10:19 -0400 (EDT) From: RCWASH X-Sender: Rcwash@galileo.cris.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com cc: rcwash@concentric.net Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] What is DMS format? X-UIDL: a4035d1473f249d4c2b1490a230961d4 From: RCWASH Greetings! I've surfed around a few Amiga web sites and I keep seeing refferences to floppies in "DMS format". I'm assuming that this is some sort of file image of a floppy disk. So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into a floppy? What software should I be looking for to create/munge DMS files? Thanks for the help. Bob Washburne 610-939-3551 (office) 610-939-6058 (fax) 800-759-8888 1636840# (pager) rcwash@lucent.com rcwash@us.ibm.com munge v. Technical term somewhere between the Unix concept of filtering and the verb form of FUBAR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 20 18:27:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27954 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:26:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 6249 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 11:03:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6230 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 11:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.gmx.net) (195.63.104.62) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7401 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 11:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.net) (212.41.101.155) by mail2.gmx.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:28:04 -0000 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:27:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: 7455c4d3d8a3dff9d53f7fb8c6cdeaa0 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Andrew >> Which is the best/ most usable offline(only)-browser around? Eh? :- > Whats wrong with using IBrowse? It can view pages you've visited > offline. Well, I thought of a small-tiny-micro-browser that doesn`t eat your HD, Ram and time to start up. In fact, IBrowse (as well as AWeb, VNG) is far to huge and lazy to deal with if you just want to have a look at a HTML-page. Regardz -- . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 20 18:29:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27948 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:26:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 13018 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 10:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13013 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 10:30:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.gmx.net) (195.63.104.62) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 10:30:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7388 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 11:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.net) (212.41.101.155) by mail2.gmx.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:28:02 -0000 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:29:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <535.775T1295T11924460tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: 8386ad52ca23cbe0aaad25c4c35f983f From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Thomas > HTMLView.mcc demo. > http://www.DIKU.dk/students/duff/ Fine. and how do I use this mui custom class? Regardz, uLpf . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From iTl@nWn.dE Tue Apr 20 18:32:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27944 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:26:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 21809 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 11:52:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21798 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 11:52:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.gmx.net) (195.63.104.62) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:52:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7382 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 11:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.net) (212.41.101.155) by mail2.gmx.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:28:01 -0000 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:32:43 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1009.775T2599T11896636tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 880c62ff91750ec290a0dcb6645dfa37 From: uLf "iTl" Seemann Hello Thomas > wget-bin.lha dev/gg 120K 55+Retrieve files over net via HTTP and FTP > wget-src.lha dev/gg 206K 55+Retrieve files over net via HTTP and FTP > Free, open source, ftp and http support, resumes on both protocols, and if > the server if crap wget just keeps going back to get it... tcpdl is better > (much better - supports multiple connections and parses the html to point > to your HD) for spidering web sites though. Sounds great! Thanks. I`ll give it a lovely try. (the problem is my ISP-account broke down and I momentarily can`t access the net [properly]. I`m lucky to get my Emails!) Regardz -- . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- xiTl@gMx.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@dfACtOrY.pRomeTheUs.dE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mattias.andersson@home.se Tue Apr 20 19:18:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01169 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:17:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 21450 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 18:44:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10676 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:40:30 -0000 Received: from i-mancompaq (md4690d4e.utfors.se [212.105.13.78]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA28733 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:19:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Mattias Andersson" To: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:18:35 +0200 Message-ID: <01be8b62$96635260$0205a8c0@i-mancompaq> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: What is DMS format? X-UIDL: 281a1beae2e89dcac7a525a02b7192fc From: "Mattias Andersson" Aminet has the solution (i think). Tree to find it: util/arc/dms111.run or just search on aminet for dms111.run. Hopefully this file contains a helpful doc for you to read so that you can unpack those archives of yours. /Mattias mattias.andersson@home.se / UIN:417142 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: RCWASH Till: just-amiga@onelist.com Kopia: rcwash@concentric.net Datum: den 20 april 1999 20:20 Ämne: [just-amiga] What is DMS format? >From: RCWASH > >Greetings! > >I've surfed around a few Amiga web sites and I keep seeing refferences to >floppies in "DMS format". I'm assuming that this is some sort of file >image of >a floppy disk. > >So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into a >floppy? > >What software should I be looking for to create/munge DMS files? > >Thanks for the help. > >Bob Washburne >610-939-3551 (office) 610-939-6058 (fax) >800-759-8888 1636840# (pager) >rcwash@lucent.com rcwash@us.ibm.com > > >munge v. Technical term somewhere between the Unix concept of filtering >and the >verb form of FUBAR. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? >http://www.ONElist.com >Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.ONElist.com Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Tue Apr 20 19:36:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09468 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:04:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 8949 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 22:45:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8888 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:45:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:45:14 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.26] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AFFF4C0F029E; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:11:11 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:36:14 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: 021f9c51bd240361862097eaaca525e7 From: Chris Seward Hi y'all, On one of my 1200's it came with an external 3.5" 100mb HD (don't ask! it was 2nd hand, who knows?!) which is IDE. I've recently bought a new HD for it (810mb) from Power (Just 69.99) anyway I am trying to get both HD's to be recognised when one is used to boot up the computer and use all the preferences, better as the 100MB one if possible and then new one which is also IDE but is external as one to store everything but be shown aswell as the 100mb on the WB any ideas how to acheive this would be welcome, TIA! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Tue Apr 20 20:08:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA12082 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:23:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 26940 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 20:46:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26892 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.64.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:46:49 -0000 Received: from [148.176.237.71] (helo=e2c6p7.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10Zi1g-0004Xf-00; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:25:52 +0100 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: Me, organised. hah ha ha Date: 20 Apr 99 21:08:08 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: What is DMS format? X-UIDL: 0207eb427e47b69abcaa55fc999d7c0d From: "Richard Lane" Hi RCWASH, In reference to "[just-amiga] What is DMS format?", > From: RCWASH > > Greetings! > > I've surfed around a few Amiga web sites and I keep seeing refferences to > floppies in "DMS format". I'm assuming that this is some sort of file > image of > a floppy disk. > > So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into a > floppy? > > What software should I be looking for to create/munge DMS files? > Here's part of the page from my Magnum.Opus.Guide that should help explain it a bit more. DISK-Masher (DMS) is a utility that lets you compress an entire floppy disk or selective tracks to a single file while preserving the disk-structure. This is useful for archiving non-filing system disks that can not be done with standard file archivers. DISK-Masher offers varying modes of compression from simple to very deep. Do not rely on the bootblock virus checker within DISK-Masher as many new viruses have appeared since its release in 1991. The Command Line Version 1.11 TURBO GENERIC was the last official release which can be found on the Aminet (dms111.run util/arc CD14). All newer versions, 1.51 and above contain pirated code and are best avoided. Thankfully at last the use of Disk-Masher files for distribution is rapidly decreasing for several reasons, the main one being that Aminet no longer accepts them. For a better idea of why this has been done take a look at the file "dms_sucks.txt" written by Aminet administrator Urban Mueller (dms_sucks.txt docs/misc CD11). -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 20 20:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA12217 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:29:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 19261 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 19:23:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19235 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:23:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:23:50 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-046.enterprise.net [194.72.197.46]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23521 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:45:06 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:43:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: What is DMS format? X-UIDL: fbab2d1b931d5f70ea37febd27a0caf9 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I've surfed around a few Amiga web sites and I keep seeing refferences to > floppies in "DMS format". I'm assuming that this is some sort of file > image of > a floppy disk. Another sucessful diagnosis doc ;) Its a compressed disk format. > > So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into a > floppy? Try searching aminet for 'DMS' (or Its probably in the C drawer in most mag CDs eg. AF) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 20 22:16:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA25254 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:46:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 15470 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 1999 22:48:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15411 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:48:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:48:53 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ZjJL-0002RA-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:48:12 +0000 Message-ID: <371CFCDA.20CA3157@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:16:58 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: What is DMS format? X-UIDL: 3aa4cbc9f0406373fd7ce90545279d53 From: Alan Gryniewicz Hi! > So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into a > floppy? > What software should I be looking for to create/munge DMS files? A DMS file is basically an archived, single file, image of a floppy disk. The advantage of using DMS to the more popular file archivers (e.g. LhA, LZX, ZIP) is that it retains the disk structure (i.e. bootblock, snapshotted icons, etc) and is the only real way to archive a disk using a non-standard file system. DMS isn`t used as much as it used to be these days though as most software is designed to be installed and run off hard drives.... making disks pretty redundant. To unpack a .DMS archive you need a copy of the DMS executable which is a shell command, or you could look for DMS_WIN which is a GUI version for Workbench (much easier to use!). If you do a search on Aminet (ftp.uk.aminet.org) for "DMS" it should come up with what you need otherwise if you e-mail me privately I would be happy to send you a copy of the DMS program.... Don`t worry, it`s freeware so it`s not piracy! Hope that helps ya out! C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... 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Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Yam2/p7 X-UIDL: 3099ae9cc6dc9237e8a2522b6965557c From: Matthew O'Neill Hi kevin On 20-Apr-99, you wrote: >> Warning: This is a message in MIME foomat. >> Your mail reader does not support MIME. >> Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. >> To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader > What am I missing,I have Yam/preview7 and use regesterd > Voyager and Miami? Well like you said, that is the raw format. Mail reader which support MIMe will know to ignore it, but any non-mime reader will display everything (as in show raw format) don't worry, YAm does support mime Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Would you like to see my bunghole? -Beavis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Wed Apr 21 19:13:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28907 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:38:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 17789 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 21:17:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17639 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:17:09 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.234] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACFEFD0A02A6; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:43:42 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:13:49 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] NEWS, www.aio.co.uk now open! X-UIDL: d893c738d299ddcf5fac9ba4c4c09def From: Chris Seward For Immediate Release: 24.4.99 Amiga Information Online has now moved its web site to a registered web domain in the UK. You can find this new site by visiting www.aio.co.uk The old site (www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio) will act as a forwarding service to people who have the old address. I hope you all try this new site and see the speed improvements it brings. It is now also alot easier to remember and will of course attract alot more readers. The latest issue has just been released today (24.4.99) and is already online for downloading. Our last issue featured an interview with Petro Tyschtschenko which was very successful and is still online to be read. You can download the latest issue (issue 23) from our site by following the links online. Now that we have a proper website the site will be used to let the readers get more involved with the site instead of just using it as the latest issue downloading point. Some of the new features online include ALL the interviews to ever feature in AIO, all the latest readers letters we receive online, a global Amiga survey soon to be launched plus lots lots more like lists of all the product reviews we have done with issues numbers and scores to make it easier to find the issue with a review of something you want to know about. I would like to thank some people who without, this registered site would not be possible and people who have helped in the process of getting to this stage. Firstly I'd like to thank all the editorial team of AIO, past and present who have helped me bring a publication to many readers all over the world. I would like to thank Chris Brown for hosting the current site, even though he did slow on updates a bit to the end and also to Andrew Crowe who created the web site which I have hacked to bits and added various areas. 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Last but not least I would like to give great thanks to the people who believed in AIO enough to donate which without again we would not be seeing the domain today, these great people are, Malcolm Harnden, Ian Urie, Stuart Walker, Andrew Cashmore, Paul Steadman, Gerald Hobbs and Raynald Le Moing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Thu Apr 22 00:31:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA18085 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:30:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 8750 invoked by alias); 21 Apr 1999 23:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8676 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 13633 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:32:10 -0500 Received: from mw-pm2-3.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.42) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:32:10 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: rcwash@concentric.net Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:31:33 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: What is DMS format? X-UIDL: 6c2efbe254792306220a70c92b3743fa From: Kenneth Craig Hello RCWASH, On 20-Apr-99, RCWASH wrote: > > So, once I download one of these DMS files, how do I turn it back into > a floppy? > > What software should I be looking for to create/munge DMS files? > Get these files from Aminet: dms111.run util/arc 40K 348 V1.11 of the popoular Disk Archiver DMSII_V1.0.lha util/arc 105K 300 GUI interface to DMS, needs OS3.0+ > Thanks for the help. > You're welcome!;-) -- Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying. -- Woody Allen Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From islandmonkey@mindless.com Thu Apr 22 09:57:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA10397 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:55:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 29436 invoked by alias); 22 Apr 1999 10:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 29431 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 10:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rmx07.globecomm.net) (165.251.8.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 10:50:02 -0000 Received: from weba4.iname.net by rmx07.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA27452 ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:57:15 -0400 (EDT) From: islandmonkey@mindless.com Received: (from root@localhost) by weba4.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id FAA24774; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9904220557144I.15912@weba4.iname.net> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:57:14 -0400 (EDT) To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Cheap HDD & MegaLoMania X-UIDL: 048de4212c349793692f45436c1ea972 From: islandmonkey@mindless.com Greetings all. Just a quick note to ask if anybody has an old 20meg (or similiar small capacity) 2.5" HDD they would be willing to sell for a small sum. Also does anybody own a copy of MegaLoMania they would be prepared to sell/swap? Sorry to use the list in this way but I'm not having much luck finding these items. Cheers, Rudi Butler. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 130,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From tom.hurst@clara.net Fri Apr 23 07:58:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29932 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:37:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 13347 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 17:17:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13322 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:17:45 -0000 Received: from du-028-0223.claranet.co.uk (Tom@du-028-0223.claranet.co.uk [195.8.84.223]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23974 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:37:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Date: 23 Apr 99 08:58:46 +0100 From: "Thomas Hurst" To: "Riccardo Cretti" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <961.782T2301T5386146tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: eab9ce7b31b9fceaad082b7a72d6d1ec From: "Thomas Hurst" Hi On 17-Apr-99 22:59:56, Riccardo Cretti (CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com) wrote: [MCP Alpha] >>> Also on onelist you can find the MCPList: a mailing list with a low, >>> low, low traffic (average: less than one message per day! :) ). >> I can cope with that :) > I hope so! :) > I remember some time ago when Pure Amiga ML reached the number of around > 170-180 messages per day! Which is about 1/3rd of what I get now... :/ >>> PS: the new MCP 1.33 alpha 22 is near! :) >> Any interesting feature additions since 1.32 beta? [..] > I'm looking the MCPPrefs, and some new features are: [..] It simply refuses to work here. > What do you think of SFS 1.61? I'm not using it. I don't use my SFS partition that much TBH. Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <------> http://amisite.amiga.tm/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 25063 2^28 blocks done -- I no wanna work, I wanna bang on keyboard all day. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Rcwash@concentric.net Fri Apr 23 14:28:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01965 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:55:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 22085 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 13:46:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 21751 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 13:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO darius.concentric.net) (207.155.198.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 13:45:53 -0000 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id KAA01283; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:28:25 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id KAA13356; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:28:24 -0400 (EDT) From: RCWASH X-Sender: Rcwash@viking.cris.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Virus Checkers? X-UIDL: 856a0283e4430399a1e49972a79569b6 From: RCWASH Greetings! OK, I'm getting back into the Amiga scean after a couple of years off. I'm upgrading, cleaning house and getting Internet ready. Hooray for me. But one thing which has been conspicuous by its absence from the adds and discussions I've watched is virus protection. I'm just not seeing it advertised or discussed. (Oh boy, I can see the flames coming my way already!). But seriously, what is the state of virus threat against the Amiga today? -) Are new Amiga virus' getting out into the wild in any number? -) Are threats limited to Boot-Block virus', or do we also see macro, Web page and virus' which attach to executables? -) What are the recommended Virus Protection packages? -) Do these packages scan stuff coming in from the 'Net? Or are there attachments for email and web browsers? Inquireing minds want to know. Thanks, Bob Washburne User of A500, A2000 and UAE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From henrik.holst@ecovision.se Fri Apr 23 16:04:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA14429 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:02:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 10431 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 15:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10404 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 15:23:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailgwy.ecovision.se) (193.15.205.172) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 15:23:35 -0000 Received: from exchange.ecovision.se (exchange [192.168.1.153]) by mailgwy.ecovision.se (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA67994 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:05:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henrik.holst@ecovision.se) Received: by exchange with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:04:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: Henrik Holst To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:04:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Virus Checkers? X-UIDL: e36cd022ec1d9cd7ece105cf8b701639 From: Henrik Holst Hi! Nice to hear from Amiga-returnees :-) Here comes a small reply to your questions: The virus status on the Amiga is quite low these days. You can forget all abot the "internet" viruses such as email, macro and webpage viruses (as far as I know...). These are WinDOS only!!! However, bootblock and executables are as always a threat to your beloved amiga.... Try the aminet for antivirus programmes........ -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: RCWASH [mailto:Rcwash@concentric.net] Skickat: den 23 april 1999 16:28 Till: just-amiga@onelist.com Ämne: [just-amiga] Virus Checkers? From: RCWASH Greetings! OK, I'm getting back into the Amiga scean after a couple of years off. I'm upgrading, cleaning house and getting Internet ready. Hooray for me. But one thing which has been conspicuous by its absence from the adds and discussions I've watched is virus protection. I'm just not seeing it advertised or discussed. (Oh boy, I can see the flames coming my way already!). But seriously, what is the state of virus threat against the Amiga today? -) Are new Amiga virus' getting out into the wild in any number? -) Are threats limited to Boot-Block virus', or do we also see macro, Web page and virus' which attach to executables? -) What are the recommended Virus Protection packages? -) Do these packages scan stuff coming in from the 'Net? Or are there attachments for email and web browsers? Inquireing minds want to know. Thanks, Bob Washburne User of A500, A2000 and UAE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Fri Apr 23 21:54:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20308 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:53:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 6189 invoked by alias); 23 Apr 1999 20:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6090 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:31:30 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-055.enterprise.net [194.72.197.55]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA19652 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:55:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:54:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003801be8dbc$978e3540$f75195c1@oemcomputer> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Feedback on a new game please ;) X-UIDL: 6ca30594d4359bcc00ff2956240e81e4 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, Ok, I released a new version of my Bomber Man game on aminet, but no one seemed to notice. So I figured I may as well give it a big plug on this mailing list ;) It's called Bomber Blaster. Get it from aminet or from Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ I would really like to hear how it runs on other people's amigas, as its only been tested on an 040/25mhz. (with PPC). Also, some comments would be nice too ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 02:30:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27963 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:26:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 10057 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 11:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10047 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 11:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 11:07:06 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.198.109] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADF411440142; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:33:24 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:30:31 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] CUT and Sunday 6th June 1999 (fwd) X-UIDL: 146811c8b24f78f9d6df4b0649ea144b From: Chris Seward Thought this may be of some interest to you all.... *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Richard Sliwa Written on: 20-Apr-99 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** Some of you may have seen this message (or one like it) in one of the many other places we announce things, and some of you may get this more than once. Our apologies in advance if you have. First of all, a belated thank you to many of you for signing 'I agree with the aims of CUT'. Belated because we don't want to bombard people with email: this one is important, though, and is going out to a great many people. On Sunday 6 June we are taking part in a European Telecommunications Boycott with nine other European countries. The formal announcement is at: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/news/news210499.htm The aim is for as many people as possible in those countries to pull out their telephone plugs, and lay down their modems, for 24 hours on that day in protest at high telecommunications charging in most EU countries, not just ours. We're encouraging all telephone users, not just Internet users, to take part. So, without the telephone bell or the computer to annoy you, you can spend that Sunday doing all these things you've been putting off. I'll be reading a couple of books which have lain unopened for months because of CUT taking up so much time. You can do several things to help: 1. Take part and tell all your friends, relatives and Internet contacts what's going on. 2. Forward the CUT press release to all the organisations you know of: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/press/pr_210499.txt The Press Pack (http://www.unmetered.org.uk/press/) has background information which will let the media know what we're about, plus our contact details, so don't worry about having to summarise what we do yourself. 3. Put a link to the announcement of the event on your Web site - if you have one - or, even better, get your company to put the link up in its Web site. You can find the graphic and HTML you need to make the link at: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/graphics/vivi.zip 4. Add the two lines following to your email and news signature: 6 June 1999 - European Telecommunications Boycott In the UK: http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ 5. If you've not done so already, consider becoming a full member of CUT; have a look at the site again and, if you like what you see, please sign up. We now take credit card memberships via a secure server. 6. And when 6th June comes along, take down your own web site altogether and replace it with only the link to the campaign. Of course, don't forget to put it back up again at the end of the Boycott! If you don't have a web site yet, make one especially for the occasion! Your own ISP probably gives you space as part of your service, and if not, there are plenty of "free" web prividers around. There will be lots of things happening between now and then, so please visit the site from time to time for updates and further news. 6th June is the anniversary of D-Day. This is *our* D-Day, when we tell the telcos, the regulators, and all the other cosy partners in the Great Phone Waltz that enough is enough! We're fighting back and won't give ground any more! -- Richard Sliwa Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications Support the European Telecommunications Boycott on 6 June: http://www.unmetered.org.uk *** End of forwarded message *** Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shop.theglobe.com * One-Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! Accessories, Apparel, Jewelry, Kids, Sporting Goods, Apparel, More!! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sat Apr 24 03:26:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA17180 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:23:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 13924 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 02:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13890 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 02:24:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 02:24:46 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-47.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.50]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19859 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:25:22 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:26:25 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: 5775a8a8f7efdb9711c895100db343f0 From: Colin Wenzel On 21-Apr-99, Chris Seward wrote: >From: Chris Seward >Hi y'all, >On one of my 1200's it came with an external 3.5" 100mb HD (don't ask! >it was 2nd hand, who knows?!) which is IDE. I've recently bought a >new HD for it (810mb) from Power (Just 69.99) anyway I am trying to >get both HD's to be recognised when one is used to boot up the >computer and use all the preferences, better as the 100MB one if >possible and then new one which is also IDE but is external as one >to store everything but be shown aswell as the 100mb on the WB >any ideas how to acheive this would be welcome, TIA! Set the external drive to "SLAVE" by fitting the appropriate link on the drive. Make sure the first drive (boot drive) is set to "MASTER". Run HDToolbox & you should see 2 drives... For safety & stability reasons, set the "MaxTransfer" (in HDToolbox) on both drives AND all partitions, to 0x1fe00 NOTE: A1200's don't have a buffered IDE bus, keep the length of the IDE cable as short as possible, otherwise it can pick up junk like RF from mobile phones & static spikes, that will cause random reboots & crashes.... -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 130,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sat Apr 24 09:44:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA08947 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:01:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 2211 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 22:40:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2160 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:40:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:40:35 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.164] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id sa736806 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:00:15 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:44:35 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Virus Checkers? X-UIDL: cfb99cb011116dfa54d33b362b7a1dd9 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello RCWASH! On 23-Apr-99, you wrote: > OK, I'm getting back into the Amiga scean after a couple of years off. > I'm upgrading, cleaning house and getting Internet ready. Hooray for me. It's nice, eh? > -) What are the recommended Virus Protection packages? Virus Checker II 2.0, Virus Z II 1.44. > -) Do these packages scan stuff coming in from the 'Net? Or are there > attachments for email and web browsers? When you have downloaded some archive from the net, load the antivirus, select the new archives, and wait for the response. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sat Apr 24 09:50:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09019 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:01:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 2398 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 22:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2357 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:40:39 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.164] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id ra736805 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:00:13 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:50:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <961.782T2301T5386146tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: few nasty s/ware problems X-UIDL: 51ddb7a7fbc579daf6d354f8acaec4d4 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Thomas! On 23-Apr-99, you wrote: [Mailing lists] >> I remember some time ago when Pure Amiga ML reached the number of around >> 170-180 messages per day! > Which is about 1/3rd of what I get now... :/ My average slipped from 300-400 per day to 180-250 per day! >> I'm looking the MCPPrefs, and some new features are: > [..] > It simply refuses to work here. Are you sure you are using the MCPPrefs from the alpha archive? :P Doesn't start, or doesn't save the prefs? >> What do you think of SFS 1.61? > I'm not using it. I don't use my SFS partition that much TBH. I've got a test partition of 200 Mb with every new version of SFS, and I'm trying to (ab)use (of) it every day... it's a long test! :) -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 24 10:24:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10640 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:24:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 19084 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 15:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19078 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 15:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 15:28:50 -0000 Received: from modem-38.name8.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.163.166] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10b5FR-00041V-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:25:45 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: 14f6c1fe944d9716350003dfc2212afa From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 20-Apr-99, you wrote: > On one of my 1200's it came with an external 3.5" 100mb HD (don't ask! > it was 2nd hand, who knows?!) which is IDE. I've recently bought a > new HD for it (810mb) from Power (Just 69.99) anyway I am trying to Why? for 70 quid you could have gotten 2 or 3 gigs with a 3.5 drive! They do fit inside the 1200, and if you didn't want to risk it, you could use that one as the external one? > get both HD's to be recognised when one is used to boot up the > computer and use all the preferences, better as the 100MB one if > possible and then new one which is also IDE but is external as one > to store everything but be shown aswell as the 100mb on the WB > any ideas how to acheive this would be welcome, TIA! Well the 3.5 one (might) have some jumpers on it (it must be older than time itself) little pins with a clip of plastic on them, one of these will select it to be a slave drive. -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Ura Redneck if, Your kids have a three-day-old Kool-Aid mustache. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 24 10:26:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10646 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:24:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 24808 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 16:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24732 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 16:03:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.25) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 16:03:59 -0000 Received: from modem-38.name8.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.163.166] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10b5FS-00041V-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:25:47 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:26:56 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Feedback on a new game please ;) X-UIDL: 6ff9c7c498e038fa5d6b272205a9aed2 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Andrew On 23-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > Hi Everybody, > Ok, I released a new version of my Bomber Man game on > aminet, but no one seemed to notice. So I figured I may > as well give it a big plug on this mailing list ;) 1) change the player 1 controls to the normal arrow keys 2) get a better "bang" sound 3) be a bit more leaniet one the collision detection, hiding exactly behind the blocks is difficult! -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan He who laughs last probably doesn`t understand the joke. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From wayne@here.is Sat Apr 24 12:28:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04914 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:28:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 11609 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 12:07:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11278 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 12:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 12:07:22 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese12.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.112]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA09327; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:41:45 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] http://www.aio.co.uk X-UIDL: a56cb03204057a79e03a6eb24ccdbeca From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Chris On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net > *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 > Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha > Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga I have just tried to visit your site @ http://www.aio.co.uk as above however all is I got was a directory listing containing a few pics and various other bits. Is the site not uploaded properly yet ? Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND WEB SITE - THANKS ! *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 16:14:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31266 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:12:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 15567 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 14:52:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 15516 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 14:52:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 14:52:27 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.99] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A2CB5B330204; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:18:51 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:14:25 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO utilities editor position open! X-UIDL: 8520cc61a41ca713972ae2fa41630d3d From: Chris Seward Ok some bad news has just fought its way to the front of the AIO desk which is that Renne has decided to leave us as the Utilities Editor, this of course leaves a gap in the Editorial team and one that I would like to fill as soon as possible. I am looking for someone who has reasonable grammer, english, and can write in-depth reviews of utilities from Aminet and the occational commercial ones. Unfortunally this position does not get paid because AIO is a freely run magazine but job 'perks' include free email address, name@aio.co.uk Aswell as any commercial utilities we receive, you will get to review and keep them. Think your up for the job? if you are interested or would like to know more then please email me at, chris@aio.co.uk Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 16:15:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31291 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:13:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 17670 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 14:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 17661 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 14:53:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 14:53:32 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.99] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A30BD4C10270; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:19:55 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:15:30 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: 288cc5612f4abb0bb9e7c1dfab409f2a From: Chris Seward Colin, On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > Set the external drive to "SLAVE" by fitting the appropriate > link on the drive. > > Make sure the first drive (boot drive) is set to "MASTER". How do you set this? sorry hardware is not my area :( When both HDs are connected the power light flashes, I doubt this is a problem with not enough power because the computer has a 200 watt power pack. The external 3.5" drive doesn't have any jumpers on for slave master, whatever, is there a piece of software I should be using? > > Run HDToolbox & you should see 2 drives... Two HDs havn't shown at this point, but I can't boot up the internal 810mb when the external 3.5" one is connected because they both try to boot, any ideas? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 16:17:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31417 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:15:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 19488 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 14:55:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19480 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 14:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 14:55:34 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.99] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A3865B540204; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:21:58 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:17:33 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re : http://www.aio.co.uk X-UIDL: 40d45b0b7e8d47fc6e8c5228c4f66af8 From: Chris Seward Wayne, On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > I have just tried to visit your site @ http://www.aio.co.uk as above > however all > is I got was a directory listing containing a few pics and various > other bits. > > Is the site not uploaded properly yet ? No sorry not yet, my tag was gathering interest :) will be online in the next few hours, along with AIO issue 23, opps better go finish it then :) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Apr 24 16:42:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20419 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:26:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 24073 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 18:09:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 24058 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:09:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:09:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-086.enterprise.net [194.72.196.206]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12555 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:27:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:42:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: 26999c2d9ae4e366ca4ff01e86854ef9 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Make sure the first drive (boot drive) is set to "MASTER". > > How do you set this? sorry hardware is not my area :( When both > HDs are connected the power light flashes, I doubt this is a problem > with not enough power because the computer has a 200 watt power > pack. > > The external 3.5" drive doesn't have any jumpers on for slave > master, whatever, is there a piece of software I should be using? Well, there's the problem, they both must be set to master. A you totally sure that there are NO jumpers on your external 3.5? If there really are none, then that is totally weird. But You'll just have to set your other drive to slave insted then. There should be a sticker on the drive somewhere explaining the jumper settings for master and slave. Once you get them booting, run HDtoolbox and save changes to the droves. If they don't boot, try doing a reset. If they still don't work have a copy of hdtoolbox on disk and boot from disk. Once HDtools has writing which one should be booted first to the drive they /should /both work together noprob. (I've had 2 hds together no prob.) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 17:32:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28911 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:38:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 17812 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17679 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:17:12 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.234] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD02FD0A02A6; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:43:46 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:32:07 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO web site now more useful than ever! X-UIDL: 1d589deded2608a4d3d0803702d0de97 From: Chris Seward As we now have our new web site (www.aio.co.uk) I have decided that it should be more useful than just to download each issue and read the latest aio news. I have recently added a MISC section which contains other sections that will be updated regularly and need to be visited more often to keep up to date. We have, *Letters* - This section contains a certain amount of your letters which are new, this is updated with your letters as soon as we receive them and you can read readers letters before they appear in the latest issues. You can send any letters to, *amiga@thefree.net* *Interviews* - This section contains all the interviews ever to feature in AIO right from issue 1, this will be updated the minuite an interview has taken place and will be online before it appears in the latest issue. *Survey* - This section is not online right now but will soon be a global survey for every Amiga user, AIO reader or not to fill in. I am looking for new ideas of what to put online, maybe a preview and demos section where you can download the latest demos of new games, let me know what you want to see online at the usual address, *amiga@thefree.net* Please do not suggest an online HTML version of each months issue, reviews or articles as this will not happen. You can see the items above by visiting, *www.aio.co.uk* and clicking on the 'misc' button in the left window. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com Sat Apr 24 17:58:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA16954 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:30:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 7996 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 20:09:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7945 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:09:16 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.138] (helo=jomarcom.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10b92F-0006Po-00; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:28:24 +0000 From: Paul Ferguson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Freelancer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Feedback on a new game please ;) X-UIDL: 43646b5407155c4f0f2f0c7655262efe From: Paul Ferguson Hi Andrew, On 23-Apr-99, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Ok, I released a new version of my Bomber Man game on > It's called Bomber Blaster. > I would really like to hear how it runs on other people's > amigas, as its only been tested on an 040/25mhz. (with PPC). Works fine as far as I can tell on an 030/50 :) No nasty crashes or anthing 'peculiar' so far. Cheers, -- *Paul Ferguson* running Amiga and PC in total harmony...I wish ;) *PC Support Technician* for AMP of GB Ltd If you want to see how *not* to produce cool web pages go to: http://www.jomarcom.u-net.com/ mailto:baldrick@jomarcom.u-net.com :PaulFerg@bigfoot.com :ICQ: 9425266 A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sat Apr 24 18:24:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30109 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:22:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 9379 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 18:02:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9300 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:02:26 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-29.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.32]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA01585 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:24:41 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Chris Seward Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:24:59 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: 3d65b3ec6e1d3f74df47c7377c2f9929 From: Colin Wenzel On 25-Apr-99, Chris Seward wrote: >From: Chris Seward >Colin, >On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: >> Set the external drive to "SLAVE" by fitting the appropriate >> link on the drive. >> >> Make sure the first drive (boot drive) is set to "MASTER". >How do you set this? sorry hardware is not my area :( When both >HDs are connected the power light flashes, I doubt this is a problem >with not enough power because the computer has a 200 watt power >pack. >The external 3.5" drive doesn't have any jumpers on for slave >master, whatever, is there a piece of software I should be using? No. To be able to accomplish the task you want, it is necessary to have a bare minimum of knowledge regarding the hardware you are using. You do not appear to have this knowledge, so I shall elaborate. _ALL_ IDE drives have links on them to define if they are the connected as a Master unit or a Slave unit. You can only have 2 devices on the one IDE bus. They MUST be configured as to NOT clash. You cannot have 2 Masters or 2 Slaves on the one bus, only one of each, or only 1 Master by itself. IDE drives are usually supplied pre-configured as the Master. >> Run HDToolbox & you should see 2 drives... >Two HDs havn't shown at this point, but I can't boot up the internal >810mb when the external 3.5" one is connected because they both >try to boot, any ideas? Exactly........ -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. 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New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Apr 24 18:38:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22821 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:38:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 20901 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 16:50:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20846 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 16:50:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 16:50:31 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-001.enterprise.net [194.72.195.121]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14391 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:40:04 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:38:51 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Feedback on a new game please ;) X-UIDL: 88ab28833359565bb8ba269503d0d182 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Ok, I released a new version of my Bomber Man game on >> aminet, but no one seemed to notice. So I figured I may >> as well give it a big plug on this mailing list ;) > > 1) change the player 1 controls to the normal arrow keys Ok, I'm using those controls because if I used the arrow keys, they confict with ALL the other keys on the keyboard, making it impossible to have any other players on kb, making it only a 3 player game ;( (OK, Not very relevent to this 1 player demo, but try the older version..) > 2) get a better "bang" sound By all means, someone send me one ;) > 3) be a bit more leaniet one the collision detection, hiding exactly > behind the blocks is difficult! OK, its not the collision detection, but an optical illusion that some people seem to expherience because of the Psudo-3D look of some of the levels (never had a problem with it myself...) All you have to do is remember to allign the bomberman with the top of the block, not the base. (or play on level 2 & 4 which don't look 3d). Anyway I need a good gfx artist so, anyone want to help out? Anyone else got any comments? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories. -- Arthur C. Clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From ck@mystcorp.com Sat Apr 24 20:58:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA11590 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 06:16:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 8149 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 06:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8081 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 06:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 06:43:51 -0000 Received: from p119.x2.u-net.net ([195.102.191.119] helo=mystcorp.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10bEHF-0000Ep-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 03:04:13 +0100 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:58:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Ltd. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: NEWS, www.aio.co.uk now open! X-UIDL: b6d0857b277739f2f42acf6d29d668f3 From: Conor Kerr Hi Chris, > I would like to thank Conor Kerr who will be getting > the registered domain for me and the work he has done to bring it to > life. Hey, I'm chuffed :) However, there's no need to thank me, you deserved a decent home on the web for the great work that you do :) All the best to all at AIO [.co.uk ]... Conor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 21:31:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28919 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:39:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 20522 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 21:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20501 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:19:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:19:07 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.234] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD75FD0A02A6; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:45:41 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:31:34 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Issue 23 out now! X-UIDL: aa7c848268188797f145b2aa212cd677 From: Chris Seward Amiga Information Online issue 23, April 1999 - Out Now! Released : 24/4/99 @ 21:26pm - AIO issue 23 has been released! I hope you enjoy this issue because we have some great news about our new registered web domain being now open at, *www.aio.co.uk* We also have some great reviews, news stories and articles to be read, you can download AIO issue 23 from the following places, URL : *http://www.aio.co.uk* (Online now) Aminet: *Docs/Mags/AIOV23.lha* (Online Monday 26/4) The last note is that we are now looking for a new Utilities Editor, if you think you are up for the job or want more information please email me at, *chris@aio.co.uk* Regards, Chris Seward *chris@aio.co.uk* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 130,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 22:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA31341 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:52:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 31794 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 21:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 31788 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:32:46 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.234] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A0AA713601F4; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:59:22 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:54:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: 2e21a46ba66ebd9af12f3c1f7091cb22 From: Chris Seward Matthew, On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > Well the 3.5 one (might) have some jumpers on it (it must be older than time > itself) little pins with a clip of plastic on them, one of these will > select it to be a slave drive. Yeah my problem is there are no jumpers for that, just for power, yes it is older than time itself ;) is there any programs that can make it slave or anything? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From amiga@thefree.net Sat Apr 24 22:56:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA31366 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:54:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 57 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 21:33:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 51 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:33:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:33:53 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.234] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A0EC71B401F4; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:00:28 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:56:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: a694aa0e305745f87bdbba50424ecabb From: Chris Seward Colin, On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > No. To be able to accomplish the task you want, it is necessary to > have a bare minimum of knowledge regarding the hardware you are using. > > You do not appear to have this knowledge, so I shall elaborate. Well ermm actually I knew that but how can I work it without jumpers, why do you think I asked in the first place? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Sat Apr 24 23:47:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA15485 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:45:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 16850 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 22:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16831 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-05.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.205) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:50:51 -0000 Received: from modem73.scully.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.234.201] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-05.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10bC8u-0001Wl-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:47:29 +0100 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Virus Checkers? X-UIDL: 147065ec5a7f14268a48c895680ff839 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello RCWASH! On 23-Apr-99, you wrote: > OK, I'm getting back into the Amiga scean after a couple of years off. > I'm upgrading, cleaning house and getting Internet ready. Hooray for me. It's nice, eh? > -) What are the recommended Virus Protection packages? I have always used Virus Executer it's Freeware and I've never had any problems, Try it Kev... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Apr 25 00:46:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA26240 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:47:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 11177 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 23:59:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11165 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:59:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:59:09 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp16.cubenet.de[194.97.156.16]) (1526 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:40 +0200 (MEST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Apr-8) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:43:20 +0100 From: "Oliver Kastl" To: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:46:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000201be8eb5$0ddd8a40$0101a8c0@olli> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: a3609143dd92a4fcbd262bb7d9d5b779 From: "Oliver Kastl" > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Wenzel [mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au] > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 8:25 PM > To: Chris Seward > Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) > > _ALL_ IDE drives have links on them to define if they are the > connected as a Master unit or a Slave unit. > Almost true, but there are exceptions to the rule. Some 2,5" laptop drives don't have jumpers and will only operate as a single master, as they are designed to run alone in a laptop. Probably the manufacturer saved some cents for the jumper, who knows... A 3,5" drive always can be configured as master or slave - well, I simply haven't seen an exception to this rule until now. Cheers, Oliver ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Apr 25 00:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA26299 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:47:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 11339 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 23:59:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11277 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:59:11 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp16.cubenet.de[194.97.156.16]) (1583 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:41 +0200 (MEST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Apr-8) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:45:26 +0100 From: "Oliver Kastl" To: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:33 +0200 Message-ID: <000301be8eb5$58e6d460$0101a8c0@olli> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: bfc4999f44d0c7df2cabc17cffc73fa7 From: "Oliver Kastl" > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Seward [mailto:amiga@thefree.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 12:55 AM > To: just-amiga@onelist.com > Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? > > > From: Chris Seward > > Matthew, > > On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > > > Well the 3.5 one (might) have some jumpers on it (it must > be older than > time > > itself) little pins with a clip of plastic on them, one of > these will > > select it to be a slave drive. > > Yeah my problem is there are no jumpers for that, just for power, > yes it is older than time itself ;) is there any programs > that can make > it slave or anything? No. No jumper, no luck. What drive is it? Does the manufacturer still exist? Can you find some info on the WWW? Cheers, Oliver ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From olli@elaborate-bytes.com Sun Apr 25 00:51:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA26099 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:46:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 10945 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 1999 23:59:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 10925 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:58:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO salyko.cube.net) (194.97.64.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:58:59 -0000 Received: from WinProxy.anywhere(dialppp16.cubenet.de[194.97.156.16]) (1242 bytes) by salyko.cube.net via smtpd with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:41 +0200 (MEST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Apr-8) Received: from 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.1.4 (WinProxy); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:47:59 +0100 From: "Oliver Kastl" To: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <000401be8eb5$b4143300$0101a8c0@olli> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) X-UIDL: e0e55effc200742b84cc95a6005c7741 From: "Oliver Kastl" > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Seward [mailto:amiga@thefree.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 12:56 AM > To: just-amiga@onelist.com > Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re : 2 HD's (Colin) > > > From: Chris Seward > > > Well ermm actually I knew that but how can I work it without jumpers, You can't, sorry. And it would be the first 3.5" drive that can't be configured I have heard about. Cheers, Oliver ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Sun Apr 25 01:48:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02697 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:46:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 14613 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 02:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14608 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 02:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 02:44:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1908 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:48:42 -0500 Received: from mw-pm2-25.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.64) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:48:42 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Virus Checkers? X-UIDL: 754893ecf80cb953951a47419baffb63 From: Kenneth Craig Hello RCWASH, On 23-Apr-99, RCWASH wrote: > From: RCWASH > > Greetings! > > OK, I'm getting back into the Amiga scean after a couple of years off. > I'm upgrading, cleaning house and getting Internet ready. Hooray for > me. > -) What are the recommended Virus Protection packages? > -) Do these packages scan stuff coming in from the 'Net? Or are there > attachments for email and web browsers? > All that you need to know about viruses on the Amiga is at this site: _Virus Help Denmark_ http://home4.inet.tele.dk/vht-dk/ -- What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that knowledge is power? http://www.ONElist.com Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Sun Apr 25 03:11:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA15316 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 03:10:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 26506 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 02:16:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 26495 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 02:16:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 02:16:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20616 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:12:33 -0500 Received: from mw-pm2-25.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.64) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:12:33 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Q#7 offline browser X-UIDL: 6b83307a01e397081db22879dd9f6e19 From: Kenneth Craig Hello uLf, On 20-Apr-99, uLf "iTl" Seemann wrote: > From: uLf "iTl" Seemann > > Hello Andrew > >>> Which is the best/ most usable offline(only)-browser around? Eh? :- > >> Whats wrong with using IBrowse? It can view pages you've visited >> offline. > > Well, I thought of a small-tiny-micro-browser that doesn`t eat your > HD, Ram and time to start up. In fact, IBrowse (as well as AWeb, VNG) > is far to huge and lazy to deal with if you just want to have a look > at a HTML-page. > Use this Datatype from Aminet: html_hdtc.lha util/dtype 103K 71 HTDS html.datatype 40.8 for HTML documents -- I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Apr 25 04:17:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA24655 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:14:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 14721 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 03:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14581 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 03:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 03:53:28 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-45.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.48]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09601 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:16:30 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Chris Seward Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:17:43 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: bb29e043c5116c150e319d74d815f887 From: Colin Wenzel On 25-Apr-99, Chris Seward wrote: >Yeah my problem is there are no jumpers for that, just for power, >yes it is older than time itself ;) is there any programs that can make >it slave or anything? No, But what make & model is it, i'll see if I have data on it... Or, Just buy another one, they are real cheap now. $150 / 2 Gigs + -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. 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X-UIDL: e72ea78108aeac97710622223a3281a0 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Yeah my problem is there are no jumpers for that, just for power, >> yes it is older than time itself ;) is there any programs that can make >> it slave or anything? What about the other hard drive? It doesn't matter which one you set to slave, as it has no relation to what order they boot. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - All the leaves a brown, and the sky is grey, I've been for a walk, On a winters day, I'd be safe and warm, If I was in LA, California dreaming, on such a weary day. -- Mamas&Papas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Sun Apr 25 14:06:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20782 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:08:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 30600 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 13:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 30564 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 13:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.204) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 13:25:40 -0000 Received: from modem91.byers.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.239.91] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10bPbR-00001S-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:09:49 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:06:34 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Voyager/downloads X-UIDL: 73357e98c99821922eb1a3383204863e From: kevin gill Hello, I'm using NetConnect2/Voyager, my download path is DH2-UTILS:Downloads. But when I download, all downloads go to the CACHE. Again I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but why. Kind regards Kev... ( collector of cardsets for klondike ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From kwdjc@wf.net Sun Apr 25 14:52:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27920 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:51:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 4083 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 14:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 4078 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 14:10:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 14:10:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20907 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 09:52:56 -0500 Received: from mw-pm4-6.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.15) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 09:52:56 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: 2 HD's together? X-UIDL: 965f6a2430314a2c8f42d5ea3942c318 From: Kenneth Craig Hello Chris, On 24-Apr-99, Chris Seward wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Matthew, > > On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > >> Well the 3.5 one (might) have some jumpers on it (it must be older >> than > time >> itself) little pins with a clip of plastic on them, one of these will >> select it to be a slave drive. > > Yeah my problem is there are no jumpers for that, just for power, yes > it is older than time itself ;) is there any programs that can make it > slave or anything? What brand and model is this IDE drive? I have not seen one yet that does not have some kind of M/S jumpers. -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? 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New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Sun Apr 25 15:05:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20797 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:09:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 32696 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 13:48:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 32689 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 13:48:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 13:48:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 62569 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 14:10:45 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-376.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.120) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 14:10:45 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:05:51 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.21196344.1" Subject: [just-amiga] Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: 636c143387986903e90c3cf2d9fece25 Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.21196344.1 Content-Type: text/plain Hello all, i'm having this problem (attached is a screenshot of what happens), more or less it is crashed screen, with miscouring and genrally looks crap, I've tryed removing all my patches, (exept power snap) one at a time but to no luck. Basiclly when i open IB or V on there 128 colour pub screen they look like the screen shot, but for mo obvious reason, can you please help me as i can't browse the web any more, due to this :( Infact this may help some of you a list of what process i have running now, Process 1: Loaded as command: status Process 2: Loaded as command: workbench:FullPal/FPPrefs Process 3: Loaded as command: C:ConClip Process 4: Loaded as command: c:fblit Process 5: Loaded as command: PowerSnap-handler Process 6: Loaded as command: Workbench Process 7: Loaded as command: WBStart Handler Process 8: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:kernel/AmiTCP Process 9: Loaded as command: L:WBStart-Handler Process 10: Loaded as command: Amitcp:genesis Process 12: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:bin/inetd I have has this problem before, about 5 months ago but i fixed it, but i can't remember how :( This all started happening a day after i intalled my CD-RW, but i think that is just a coinsidence. 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hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-20.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.23]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA18211 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:08:37 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Phil Price Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:09:07 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: 850bdad9f35064cb541304ca1b78204e From: Colin Wenzel On 26-Apr-99, Phil Price wrote: >Hello all, >i'm having this problem (attached is a screenshot of what happens), more >or less it is crashed screen, with miscouring and genrally looks crap, >I've tryed removing all my patches, (exept power snap) one at a time >but to no luck. -snip- Well I would suggest you try a more logical approach. *: Remove _ALL_ removable patches (including power snap) first, Then put them _BACK_, 1 at a time. Now, #FBLIT#, it is _absolutely_ not to be used by beginners. This is the prime candidate.. If you _do_ know how to use it, or do not understand what it is doing then I would strongly recommend you _read the docs_, THEN, read them again.... Also, make sure you have the absolutely latest version. If you had read the docs, you would not have posted this email. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. 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New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Apr 25 16:11:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30323 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:11:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 23976 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 14:50:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23964 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 14:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 14:49:59 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max01-016.enterprise.net [194.72.195.16]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22592 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:12:51 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:11:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: ffeed23fb41766c1f31f839d92a0618c From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > i'm having this problem (attached is a screenshot of what happens), more > or less it is crashed screen, with miscouring and genrally looks crap, > I've tryed removing all my patches, (exept power snap) one at a time > but to no luck. Basiclly when i open IB or V on there 128 colour pub > screen they look like the screen shot, but for mo obvious reason, > can you please help me as i can't browse the web any more, due to > this :( Infact this may help some of you a list of what process i have > running now, > > Process 1: Loaded as command: status > Process 2: Loaded as command: workbench:FullPal/FPPrefs > Process 3: Loaded as command: C:ConClip > Process 4: Loaded as command: c:fblit > Process 5: Loaded as command: PowerSnap-handler > Process 6: Loaded as command: Workbench > Process 7: Loaded as command: WBStart Handler > Process 8: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:kernel/AmiTCP > Process 9: Loaded as command: L:WBStart-Handler > Process 10: Loaded as command: Amitcp:genesis > Process 12: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:bin/inetd Ok, is that an AGA or Gfx card screen? That first thing I'd try is disabling FBlit, I suspect that is the only thing that'd do tht kind of thing... See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Sun Apr 25 16:18:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32643 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:19:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 12223 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 14:22:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12215 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 14:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 14:22:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 77943 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 15:21:33 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-358.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.102) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 15:21:33 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:18:19 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: 012da39441ca76ed1fd2f16642198696 From: Phil Price On 25-Apr-99 Andrew Crowe said, about '[just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !!': > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > >> i'm having this problem (attached is a screenshot of what happens), more >> or less it is crashed screen, with miscouring and genrally looks crap, >> I've tryed removing all my patches, (exept power snap) one at a time >> but to no luck. Basiclly when i open IB or V on there 128 colour pub >> screen they look like the screen shot, but for mo obvious reason, >> can you please help me as i can't browse the web any more, due to >> this :( Infact this may help some of you a list of what process i have >> running now, >> >> Process 1: Loaded as command: status >> Process 2: Loaded as command: workbench:FullPal/FPPrefs >> Process 3: Loaded as command: C:ConClip >> Process 4: Loaded as command: c:fblit >> Process 5: Loaded as command: PowerSnap-handler >> Process 6: Loaded as command: Workbench >> Process 7: Loaded as command: WBStart Handler >> Process 8: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:kernel/AmiTCP >> Process 9: Loaded as command: L:WBStart-Handler >> Process 10: Loaded as command: Amitcp:genesis >> Process 12: Loaded as command: AmiTCP:bin/inetd > > Ok, is that an AGA or Gfx card screen? AGA > That first thing I'd try is disabling FBlit, I suspect that is the only > thing that'd do tht kind of thing... Tryed that (removing FBLIT) but no luck, every thing worked fine wit all patches uptill now :( So maybe it's hardware ? Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cerberus@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Apr 25 18:47:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10982 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:47:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 17695 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 19:26:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 17667 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 19:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO avalon.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 19:26:06 -0000 Received: from dialup-15-21.netcomuk.co.uk (dialup-15-21.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.231.213]) by avalon.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04019 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:49:40 +0100 (BST) From: "CERBERUS" Organization: Private User Date: 25 Apr 99 20:47:31 +0200 Message-Id: <37237F62.MD-0.196.cerberus@netcomuk.co.uk> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] WEBCAMS, AND THE AMIGA X-UIDL: 2d9638dc96c5e8f2b640cd056ac11d7e From: "CERBERUS" Hi, I have just joined the list, and would like to find out if there is any video conferencing packages for the Amiga. I understand that , if there is, it's bound to be a bit dire this end, but that don't matter much, as long as it works.I hope to link up with someone the other side of the world, and thishopefully will keep the 'phone bill down (It's over a quid a minute!!!!!!) Cerberus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 25 21:08:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21500 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 6953 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 1999 10:09:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 6822 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 10:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 10:08:47 -0000 Received: from modem-140.name33.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.176.140] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bhsd-0001py-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:40:48 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:08:12 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Voyager/downloads X-UIDL: a1d34b12340ea81500ffde002e2b7f06 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi kevin On 25-Apr-99, you wrote: > I'm using NetConnect2/Voyager, my download path is > DH2-UTILS:Downloads. > But when I download, all downloads go to the CACHE. > Again I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but why. > Hold shift then click on the link :) better still do what I did. Add another button to your mouse and then set it up as a shift key :) Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Recursion, noun: see recursion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shop.theglobe.com * One-Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in U.S.! 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Accessories, Apparel, Jewelry, Kids, Sporting Goods, Apparel, More!! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From majik@tig.com.au Sun Apr 25 22:42:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14731 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:41:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 40 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 23:19:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 31 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.tig.com.au) (203.109.250.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:19:30 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (Majik@p56-max2.syd.ihug.com.au [206.17.104.120]) by smtp2.tig.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12453 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:43:09 +1000 From: Steven Fernandes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:42:12 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37237F62.MD-0.196.cerberus@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WEBCAMS, AND THE AMIGA X-UIDL: a7b75cae74fa697c3fb4c6ec22edbaad From: Steven Fernandes In response to your email, > From: "CERBERUS" > Hi, > I have just joined the list, and would like to find out if there > is any video conferencing packages for the Amiga. I understand that , > if there is, it's bound to be a bit dire this end, but that don't > matter much, as long as it works.I hope to link up with someone the > other side of the world, and thishopefully will keep the 'phone bill > down (It's over a quid a minute!!!!!!) Grab BlackIRC off of aminet, it fully supports video conferencing, it is the only one that i can think of right now. Even though it is v1.0 it is quite good, haven't used the video conferencing myself, although i don't expect you should have any problems, it looks simple enough to set up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Apr 25 23:07:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00261 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:07:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 22753 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 1999 23:05:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 22738 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:05:51 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max06-025.enterprise.net [194.72.197.85]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23806 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:08:50 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:07:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: 8b4a4d45efe536fbffa0f35f412cd787 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> >> Ok, is that an AGA or Gfx card screen? > > AGA > >> That first thing I'd try is disabling FBlit, I suspect that is the only >> thing that'd do tht kind of thing... > > Tryed that (removing FBLIT) but no luck, every thing worked fine wit > all patches uptill now :( So maybe it's hardware ? Well, I don't /think/ its h/w, otherwise all other screens would be affected. Are you sure you havn't inadvertently installed some other patch that doesn't show up, or CGXAGA or something. Also, does it show up if you boot from a wb disk and then assign MUI, so you can run it on a patch clean setup? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying. -- Woody Allen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist has over 115,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Mon Apr 26 02:14:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA05451 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:13:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 21203 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 1999 03:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 21139 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 03:11:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 03:11:48 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-57.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.60]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27125 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:14:41 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: CERBERUS Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:14:50 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37237F62.MD-0.196.cerberus@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WEBCAMS, AND THE AMIGA X-UIDL: b7526aeba71fe86cf97030400a939392 From: Colin Wenzel On 26-Apr-99, CERBERUS wrote: >From: "CERBERUS" >Hi, > I have just joined the list, and would like to find out if there >is any video conferencing packages for the Amiga. I understand that , >if there is, it's bound to be a bit dire this end, but that don't >matter much, as long as it works.I hope to link up with someone the >other side of the world, and thishopefully will keep the 'phone bill >down (It's over a quid a minute!!!!!!) >Cerberus You will find what you are looking for at: http://www.thule.no/ -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? http://www.ONElist.com Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From henrik.holst@ecovision.se Mon Apr 26 06:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA12270 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:20:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 31306 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 1999 06:48:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 31300 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 06:48:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailgwy.ecovision.se) (193.15.205.172) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 06:48:17 -0000 Received: from exchange.ecovision.se (exchange [192.168.1.153]) by mailgwy.ecovision.se (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA73427 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:22:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henrik.holst@ecovision.se) Received: by exchange with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:21:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: Henrik Holst To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:21:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! X-UIDL: 0ca920159dcb5b6a308edc87dc3bfd66 From: Henrik Holst Why not try to start without the startup-sequence, if you then still have a problem then it's almost guaranteed to be hardware related..... -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Colin Wenzel [mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au] Skickat: den 25 april 1999 17:09 Till: Phil Price Ämne: [just-amiga] Re: Corrupt Screens !! From: Colin Wenzel On 26-Apr-99, Phil Price wrote: >Hello all, >i'm having this problem (attached is a screenshot of what happens), more >or less it is crashed screen, with miscouring and genrally looks crap, >I've tryed removing all my patches, (exept power snap) one at a time >but to no luck. -snip- Well I would suggest you try a more logical approach. *: Remove _ALL_ removable patches (including power snap) first, Then put them _BACK_, 1 at a time. Now, #FBLIT#, it is _absolutely_ not to be used by beginners. This is the prime candidate.. If you _do_ know how to use it, or do not understand what it is doing then I would strongly recommend you _read the docs_, THEN, read them again.... Also, make sure you have the absolutely latest version. If you had read the docs, you would not have posted this email. -------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. | | Email: colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CyberStorm-III 68060/50 | 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show mom you love her. 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X-UIDL: f10f6e0a90bdad9d527a6e9ff8bf826f From: Peter Price Amiga Universe is proud to announce details of a second Screens conference to follow up the one held in February this year. Lennart Friden and Christian Nylen will once again be available to answer your questions regarding the operating system for PowerPC Amigas, on the ArcNET channel #amigaUni. The conference will start at 8pm British time on Sunday, May 2nd, and finish at 10pm. A list of ArcNET servers can be found at the redesigned ArcNET homepage at http://arcnet.vapor.com - the standard port is 6667. Apologies to anyone who sees this on more than one list, but we're trying to spread the word as far as we can, and we ask you to do the same. Logs of the conference will be available on Amiga Universe (http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk) within 48 hours of the conference. Best Regards -- Peter Price - Amiga Universe - http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/ - SOON The site that gives you everything. Mirrors. IRC Channel. Mailing List. 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X-UIDL: ccf8fc121567a86642ede459aa676be8 From: Chris Seward We are looking for BBSes around the world to be official distributors of AIO. This would mean your BBS permantely listed in AIO. 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X-UIDL: ad64b54cc99757ea0bc628824d3fd977 From: Chris Seward Conor, On 24-Apr-99, you wrote: > However, there's no need to thank me, you deserved a decent home on the web > for the great work that you do :) Ahhh, compliments, people say they don't get you anywhere, i believe they get you everywhere. Well credit where credits due I say and credit is due to you, Conor, basically without you and the support from the donations and other readers this site would not exist. It just goes to prove that making AIO is worth while and if the support stays as good as it is then I will try my best to not let anyone down. Support is all it takes to keep AIO alive so check out the website and find the various new email addresses you should contact to send us your letters, news, reviews etc. > > All the best to all at AIO [.co.uk ]... Thanks again! Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that ONElist now offers the richest set of group communications tools on the Internet? http://www.onelist.com Check out our homepage for details on these new tools! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 27 21:01:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03546 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:02:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 10065 invoked by alias); 27 Apr 1999 20:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10060 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:40:45 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cF1z-0007PL-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:04:40 +0000 Message-ID: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:01:37 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 49639a866cf2a782d28598077b338bfc From: Alan Gryniewicz Hiya! Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been searching through god knows how many old HTML tutorials in Amiga mags for hours and can`t find anything about them (although I`m sure I had one somewhere that was especially focused on a webcounter for a Demon site.... dunno where it has disappeared to though!). Thanx in advance for your help! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... Alan Gryniewicz [zYX!/A51]: :. / / |: / / // /__ / / | / ___ \ :. :....alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk:: : / /| |:/ / // ___// /| | \__ \\ \ :...:...:.. . : ... .:. ::. ..: / __ |/ _ \ \__/ __ | /___// /.A51hQ SiTE[#---------]-10%c0MPLeTE /_/:.|___/ \_/\_____/.:|_|:.. /_/ :.. .http://www.a51krew.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? http://www.ONElist.com ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 27 21:26:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06306 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:25:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 3946 invoked by alias); 27 Apr 1999 21:54:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3941 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:54:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:54:57 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=oemcomputer) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cFNd-0001qV-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:27:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01be90f4$a0274260$605a989e@oemcomputer> From: "Bradley Smith" To: References: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:26:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 7f45bd5edcc985c6f05c8b769c469d64 From: "Bradley Smith" ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Gryniewicz To: Sent: 27 April 1999 22:01 Subject: [just-amiga] Webcounter for Demon site > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > searching through god knows how many old HTML tutorials in Amiga mags > for hours and can`t find anything about them (although I`m sure I had > one somewhere that was especially focused on a webcounter for a Demon > site.... dunno where it has disappeared to though!). I can't remember the actual HTML, but go to http://www.demon.net/ and check out services/web sites/ cgi section, and the instructions are online there. -- Brad Smith : brad@bradman.demon.co.uk : http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk brad@tekrum.com : ICQ: 14717831 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 27 22:23:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06258 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:22:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 11730 invoked by alias); 27 Apr 1999 20:32:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 11684 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:32:53 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-003.enterprise.net [194.72.196.123]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14441 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:24:29 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:23:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 7ddcb6462aa62b30864dbf2a83974046 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > searching through god knows how many old HTML tutorials in Amiga mags > for hours and can`t find anything about them (although I`m sure I had > one somewhere that was especially focused on a webcounter for a Demon > site.... dunno where it has disappeared to though!). You can't just write one in plain html, you've got to get a CGI script from demon, or use a free counter. (can't remember any of the names though) Usuall you just have to add an image like this (this is for geocities I think) ' have visited this website.' or such and such. It depends how the cgi script works though. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 27/3/99 --- New Bomberman clone started - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? http://www.ONElist.com Sign up for a new e-mail list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From drstrange@jps.net Wed Apr 28 05:31:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA18999 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:32:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 14284 invoked by alias); 28 Apr 1999 05:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 14273 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 05:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.jps.net) (209.63.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 05:33:59 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-236.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.236]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20182 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Tierno To: Amiga Info Online Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:31:44 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] DOpus Article X-UIDL: 9c532e37221b20a541b5ea5ed8a38c1f From: Mark Tierno Hi All. Based on a single letter sent in to the last AIO (See, those letters #do# het read), I'm going to take a crack at a DOpus Tutorial for at least the next issue or two. What I need from you people are ideas on what you would like to see covered in this tutorial. If you don't wanbt to crowd this ML with your responces then you can email it to the Articles Editor address given in the last AIO (or just post it here). -Mark Tierno, AIO Articles Editor Later. -- Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Wed Apr 28 17:24:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06105 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 19391 invoked by alias); 28 Apr 1999 17:25:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19233 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:25:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:25:04 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.137] (helo=p9.nas2.is5.u-net.net) by mserv1c.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10cZ1W-0002BM-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:25:31 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Organization: Private User Date: 28 Apr 99 18:24:12 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000099] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DOpus Article X-UIDL: 4b3b8a93558645c8c2dd901b345f957a From: "Paul Dixon" In reply to your:>[just-amiga] DOpus Article, Mark Tierno, you said : > From: Mark Tierno > > Hi All. > Based on a single letter sent in to the last AIO (See, those letters #do# > het read), I'm going to take a crack at a DOpus Tutorial for at least the > next issue or two. What I need from you people are ideas on what you would > like to see covered in this tutorial. If you don't wanbt to crowd this ML > with your responces then you can email it to the Articles Editor address > given in the last AIO (or just post it here). How about "how do you make file types" I have looked through the book and get lost. !!!! Paul -- Norwich City FC forever The "AMIGA" lives on mailto:paul@valerie.u-net.com Norfolk Amiga user group http://www.valerie.u-net.com And now Monday night BOWLING league in Norwich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 28 19:04:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14862 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:50:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 7272 invoked by alias); 29 Apr 1999 20:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7264 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:51:48 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cxmz-0000Ue-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:52:10 +0000 Message-ID: <37275BC3.44E72E15@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:04:35 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> <000e01be90f4$a0274260$605a989e@oemcomputer> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: a232502ae9f802dfab5de1cdc4cb4fcd From: Alan Gryniewicz Hiya Brad! > > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > I can't remember the actual HTML, but go to http://www.demon.net/ and check > out services/web sites/ cgi section, and the instructions are online there. I checked it last night have managed to get the counter working fine now.... Thanks for the help and quick reply.... appreciated! C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... Alan Gryniewicz [zYX!/A51]: :. / / |: / / // /__ / / | / ___ \ :. :....alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk:: : / /| |:/ / // ___// /| | \__ \\ \ :...:...:.. . : ... .:. ::. ..: / __ |/ _ \ \__/ __ | /___// /.A51hQ SiTE[#---------]-10%c0MPLeTE /_/:.|___/ \_/\_____/.:|_|:.. /_/ :.. .http://www.a51krew.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for an easy, effective way to research an important topic? http://www.onelist.com Joining a ONElist community is your answer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Wed Apr 28 19:05:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14875 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:50:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 2207 invoked by alias); 29 Apr 1999 20:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 2201 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:52:51 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cxnB-0000Vc-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:52:21 +0000 Message-ID: <37275C0B.D3BA2222@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:05:47 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 2d02f6a3afa7f7ec196b6aa448f29609 From: Alan Gryniewicz Hiya Andrew! > You can't just write one in plain html, you've got to get a CGI script > from demon, or use a free counter. (can't remember any of the names though) > Usuall you just have to add an image like this (this is for geocities I > think) > ' have visited this website.' or such and such. > It depends how the cgi script works though. I checked the Demon site and got it working fine now.... thanx for the help :) C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... Alan Gryniewicz [zYX!/A51]: :. / / |: / / // /__ / / | / ___ \ :. :....alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk:: : / /| |:/ / // ___// /| | \__ \\ \ :...:...:.. . : ... .:. ::. ..: / __ |/ _ \ \__/ __ | /___// /.A51hQ SiTE[#---------]-10%c0MPLeTE /_/:.|___/ \_/\_____/.:|_|:.. /_/ :.. .http://www.a51krew.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Wed Apr 28 19:05:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA06002 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:46:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 18801 invoked by alias); 29 Apr 1999 16:47:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18790 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:47:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:47:52 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.179] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id va739773 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:45:25 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:05:47 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 4220f8d9cce2e515c4906cc1aee03fb0 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Alan! On 27-Apr-99, you wrote: > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > searching through god knows how many old HTML tutorials in Amiga mags > for hours and can`t find anything about them (although I`m sure I had > one somewhere that was especially focused on a webcounter for a Demon > site.... dunno where it has disappeared to though!). You can take a free counter from The Counter! The URL is http://www.thecounter.com/ -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Thu Apr 29 18:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA15249 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:37:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 17930 invoked by alias); 29 Apr 1999 17:39:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17875 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:39:17 -0000 Received: from modem-54.anadrol.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.182] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk ident=Sanderson) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cumb-0003c2-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:39:34 +0100 From: Sandy Brownlee To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:38:14 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 4d7c4eb450d8e0af700caf9985809e69 From: Sandy Brownlee Hello Alan On 27-Apr-99, you wrote: > From: Alan Gryniewicz > > Hiya! > > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > searching through god knows how many old HTML tutorials in Amiga mags > for hours and can`t find anything about them (although I`m sure I had > one somewhere that was especially focused on a webcounter for a Demon > site.... dunno where it has disappeared to though!). > > Thanx in advance for your help! > > Alan > Regards As opposed to doing all that CGI stuff, just go to www.ipstat.com for an excellent counter (and more). Its a bit PeeCee oriented, but I guess we've got to live with these thins sometimes. SeeYa Sandy Brownlee ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.ONElist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Apr 30 06:07:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30271 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:08:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 28952 invoked by alias); 30 Apr 1999 15:10:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28941 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 15:10:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 15:10:32 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20283 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-52.digital.net [208.14.41.52]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08066 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:28 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 9180d937b48ee8e767257d6c56933190 From: Ken I've been fiddling with dtconvert, (NEEDS Datatypes.library 45.5) I have the last datatypes library amigaguide file and the files it says 45.5 can be found in. They version out at 40.6. Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert worth fiddling with ? I'm figuring on converting some mpgs to iffs.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know why... "The Closer" picked ONElist to host their baseball humor community? http://www.onelist.com Because of ONElist's reliable service and live customer support! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 30 09:22:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05124 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:22:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 1991 invoked by alias); 30 Apr 1999 09:24:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1943 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 09:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 09:24:20 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=oemcomputer) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10d9Wz-0003oY-0C for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:24:26 +0000 Message-ID: <002501be92eb$2981e0e0$605a989e@oemcomputer> From: "Bradley Smith" To: References: <372625B1.3147F01C@a51krew.demon.co.uk> <000e01be90f4$a0274260$605a989e@oemcomputer> <37275BC3.44E72E15@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:22:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site X-UIDL: 0fb3f8255455e52a3cdb3520f68997ef From: "Bradley Smith" ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Gryniewicz To: Sent: 28 April 1999 20:04 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Webcounter for Demon site > > > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? I`ve been > > I can't remember the actual HTML, but go to http://www.demon.net/ and check > > out services/web sites/ cgi section, and the instructions are online there. > > I checked it last night have managed to get the counter working fine > now.... Thanks for the help and quick reply.... appreciated! No probs. It's certainly a reliably counter as well, and don't forget that you can change the look and style of it in many different ways... what would be nice would be for demon to give us free web site statistics, instead/as well as the useless bwusage.txt file. -- Brad Smith : brad@bradman.demon.co.uk : http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk brad@tekrum.com : ICQ: 14717831 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always wanted to set up a book club, but can't find the time? http://www.onelist.com Create an online book club through ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read AIO at : *http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* From Amiga@tankertytanktank.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 30 17:11:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17539 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:11:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 26172 invoked by alias); 30 Apr 1999 17:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26164 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:13:15 -0000 Received: from [212.228.52.69] (helo=tankertytanktank) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10dGqM-0002U2-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:12:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01be932c$863c5ea0$4534e4d4@tankertytanktank> From: "Jay" To: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:11:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE9334.E7514CC0" Subject: [just-amiga] Demon Amiga Counters (Was-[Web counter for demon]) X-UIDL: 79d325436ad9eaa76857ce898f56a1be This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE9334.E7514CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hiya! > > Does anyone know how to add a webcounter to a Demon website?? > > Alan =20 Try: http://boingdragon.km-cd.com/counters.html they have free easy to use animated counters, and some of them have been designed by our very own ERIC SCHWARTZ. they even give you instructions on how to install them. I use one on my demon site. www.tankertytanktank.demon.co.uk =20 J. If you have any problems mail me. j@tankertytanktank.demon.co.uk =20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE9334.E7514CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE9334.E7514CC0-- From cbminfo@digital.net Sat May 01 00:58:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14341 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 09:58:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 5553 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 10:00:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 5413 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 10:00:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 10:00:03 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12759 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 05:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-37.digital.net [208.14.41.37]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA26462 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 06:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Kenneth Craig Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 05:58:00 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: e4fb93bcf44955515178649db54f85ab From: Ken >> Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert worth >> fiddling with ? >Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the >passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse >about it. Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. Also where it says can be found, it CAN'T! Thats why I asked if anyone found it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? http://www.onelist.com Tell them about ONElist's 130,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kwdjc@wf.net Sat May 01 01:54:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA04263 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 01:53:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 14115 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 01:55:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14060 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 01:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 01:54:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2075 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 20:55:28 -0500 Received: from mw-pm2-24.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.63) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 20:55:28 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:54:33 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 0c0af6277e11475b95f6aa3afd3655d9 From: Kenneth Craig Hello Ken, On 30-Apr-99, Ken wrote: > From: Ken > > I've been fiddling with dtconvert, (NEEDS Datatypes.library 45.5) I > have the last datatypes library amigaguide file and the files it says > 45.5 can be found in. They version out at 40.6. > > Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert worth > fiddling with ? Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse about it. http://www.nordicglobal.com/pwlistadv.txt -- Reality is for people who lack imagination. Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK*