From: worc0223@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ben Hutchings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: Amiga Warez Date: 15 Sep 1997 15:51:04 GMT Organization: Not organised Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5vjlh8$dji$1@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <5vhulh$l4r@basement.replay.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sable.ox.ac.uk Path: 195.95.96.10!news.unisource.be!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!ubnnews.unisource.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!server3.netnews.ja.net!news.ox.ac.uk!sable.ox.ac.uk!worc0223 In article <5vhulh$l4r@basement.replay.com>, Anon wrote: >Adrian Flaherty On 09-Sep-97 05:29:57 Wrote: >>Why don't you get in contact with the original writers and aske them if >>they would mind you taking a free copy direct from them? Wonder what anser >>you would recieve. > >Some might say yes! I wish more people would give away their old Amiga >commercial programs to Aminet, seeing as there is no commercial gain >being made from them directly anymore. Team17 effectively did this by >releasing the whole source to Alien Breed 3d II - The Killing Grounds. > >I just wonder why we haven't seen those 'new and improved' versions of the >game, after all the fuss caused from Amiga coders on Usenet/wherever >about how they could do much better with such and such a routine. The source is in a complete mess; there is no Makefile or script to pull it all together. I suspect only Andy Clitheroe actually knows which files need to be linked together to build the damn game. Frankly it's probably easier to disassemble and patch the executable, which is what the TKGpatch author did. >The main reason copyright holders wont give away their games is for fear >of harming existing sales of games. I think many of the big companies >got ELSPA to get magazines to agree not to give away commercial games >for this reason too - Something which, stupidly, Amiga magazines are >still obeying today, by still only giving mainly commercial apps away. If an ELSPA member started giving away ex-commercial games, it might risk getting kicked out of ELSPA, which would be undesirable. -- Ben Hutchings, compsci&mathmo | Save Amiga! http://www.znet.com/~colin/icoa/ email/finger m95bwh@ecs.ox.ac.uk | homepage http://users.ox.ac.uk/~worc0223/ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today.