From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 03:46:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA02706; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 21:37:51 -0700 Received: from mv.mv.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA02665; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 21:37:35 -0700 Received: by mv.mv.com (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-940616) id AAA29410 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:38:13 -0400 Received: by fusion.mv.com (V1.16/Amiga) id AA007zj; Mon, 1 May 95 00:10:30 EST Date: Mon, 1 May 95 00:10:30 EST Message-Id: <9505010510.AA007zi@fusion.mv.com> Message-Id: <2097e7f2.dfcd1-mark@fusion.mv.com> In-Reply-To: (from John Gross ) (at Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:19:38 -0700 (PDT)) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 4.159) From: mark@fusion.MV.COM (Mark Thompson) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: 4.0 and Image sequenc Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk John Gross replied: > Actually the current prerelease of LW 4.0 does handle sequences ending in > .tga. Well then chalk that up to the joys of being a beta tester :-) My current beta version does not do that. Looks like I need an update! *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * Mark Thompson (603) 424-1829 * * Fusion Films Inc. mark@fusion.mv.com * * Radiant Image Productions * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 08:37:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA08143; Mon, 1 May 1995 07:16:53 -0700 Received: from relay1.geis.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA08123; Mon, 1 May 1995 07:16:47 -0700 From: t.taylor4@genie.geis.com Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.11/15.6) id AA022347814; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:16:54 GMT Message-Id: <199505011416.AA022347814@relay1.geis.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 95 14:07:00 UTC To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Bones problem. X-Genie-Id: 0953240 X-Genie-From: T.TAYLOR4 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >> But after hours of playing around, I cannot seem to get the >> bone "influences" to work properly with the model. >Maybe I'm not crazy. I've spent hours of work and sleepless nights >trying to make bones work properly for a character figure, and I've >not been able to do it without splitting the character into separate >objects. >I'm not sure it can be done. Still, I'd be overwelmed with joy if >someone could tell me I'm wrong. I did an attempt to animate the triceratops using bones and failed miserably. I had over 30 bones in it, toes, jawbones, everything, and even simplified the bone layout in later attemps. Never could get them to work right The only way it would work was to split up the triceratops. Tank From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 10:09:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA12805; Mon, 1 May 1995 04:31:25 -0700 Received: from zevs.ifi.unit.no by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA12560; Mon, 1 May 1995 04:29:39 -0700 Received: from uranus.ifi.unit.no by zevs.ifi.unit.no with SMTP id AA17659 (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 May 1995 13:31:54 +0200 Received: by uranus.ifi.unit.no (4.1/Uninett-C-1.4) id AA25653; Mon, 1 May 95 13:31:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:31:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ole Andre Schistad To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: DraCO's RISC chip for Amiga In-Reply-To: <199505010317.WAA08757@lois.dti.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 blaise@lois.dti.com wrote: > workstations. The only problem is that this processor is not running > NT (if it is, please ignore my ENTIRE post), and therefore has, as of > this moment, exactly zero applications. The DraCo is an amiga clone , and as such runs a customized version of AmigaOS. It originally comes with an 060 , but can supposedly be upgraded with RISC chips later. The RISC upgrade will almost certainly include a 680x0 emulator . So LW will still run with the RISC upgrade , NT or no NT. Unfortunately , emulating a totally alien instruction set produces a huge overhead , and that's why a specific port of LW would be nice . I doubt it's justifiable for NewTek to spend time porting LW to work in a native-mode though , as the user base with Alpha'ed DraCos will probably be very small. > > Applications are written to an operating system first, and a > processor second, so Lightwave would have to be much more than > "patched" in order to run on this accelerator card. This is the same > argument that causes NewTek to say that an NT/PowerPC port would be > much easier than a MacOS/PowerPC port. Actually , the whole point of the DraCo is to allow people to keep their old programs and AmigaOS , and still be able to upgrade to state-of-the-art CPUs. Personally , I love the amigas operating system, in spite of all its quirks (No resource tracking hence no proper kill, flaky VMem etc) . A DraCo would be right up my alley , if only I could afford one. #include #define REALNAME Ole Andre Schistad #define EMAIL (schizo@nvg.unit.no || olesc@ifi.unit.no) #define OCCUPATION Comp.Sci student and 3D animation hobbyist. main(){ printf("Hello World\n");return(-1);} /* The world is an illusion. */ From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 10:39:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA23733; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:15:15 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA23703; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:15:09 -0700 From: RFCoates@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA055734921; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:15:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:15:21 -0400 Message-Id: <950501121519_102639456@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Need Lft Hand Object Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA Robert Coates From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 11:58:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA15460; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:04:15 -0700 Received: from lemur.magnet.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA15432; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:04:07 -0700 Received: from pdavies.MAIN (annexmacpc208.magnet.com [199.125.237.208]) by lemur.magnet.com (8.6.10/MAGNET) with SMTP id OAA16662; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:04:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:04:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199505011804.OAA16662@lemur.magnet.com> X-Sender: pdavies@magnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com From: pdavies@magnet.com (Paul A. Davies) Subject: Re: HELLO X-Mailer: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Of course this can only be done with one saved motion path...it would be >really cool if we could APPEND motion paths so that a bunch of seperate >sets of keyframes could be saved and then added together later. > >As an example, if you had 5 different 200 frame motion paths that you >wanted the camera to follow over the course of a big 1,000 frame anim, >you would load the first motion path and then append the other four >motion paths to it for the final 1,000 frame motion path. > >This would probably be a bitch to program though....or maybe not? 3dStudio already has a feature like this and it is extremely handy but I'd much rather see it implemented in LW. Alias Power Animator has a feature - sure just one - that I'd like to see in LW. It allows you to view multiple motion curves simultaneously. Not only can you view and manipulate all of an object's motion, rotation, scaling and visibility at once, you can also select any or all other elements in the scene and view and edit their curves. This can be a little overwhelming at first but it allows you to easily match timing and motion of seperate events for seperate elements. Just imagine being able to view or edit an objects motion graph at the same time as it's morph envelope! Cut, copy and paste features for multiple keys in the Motion Graph would also be very handy. If any of these features have been added to 4.0 please forgive me I haven't seen it yet. Paul Davies Concept Artist Magnet Studios From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 11:49:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA15497; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:33:26 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA15477; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:33:20 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (downinit@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA29305 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:43 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: videoman@netcom.com cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flyer-list? In-Reply-To: <199504302319.QAA22314@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk There is the Toaster-l, admin'ed by DJ McCoy, same guy who handles the Lightwave-l. There's a decent amount of Flyer discussion there, mostly complaints. ;) mail to listserv@netcom.com subscribe toaster-l Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 11:36:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA20882; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:31:01 -0700 Received: from earth.usa.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA21032; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:17:32 -0700 Received: (from jgjones@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA22906 for LIGHTWAVE-L@NETCOM.COM; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:01:26 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:01:26 -0600 From: James Jones/Nibbles and Bits Message-Id: <199505011501.JAA22906@earth.usa.net> To: LIGHTWAVE-L@netcom.com Subject: Modeler 4.0 Content-Length: 768 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Noticed a few things about the new 4.0 pre-release Modeler that I haven't seen mentioned before, so I thought I'd, um, mention them: * Merge Polys is much improved... instead of leaving a string of connected points on the interior area of the adjacent polygons, it now disconnects those points and leaves a nice polygon around the exterior perimeter of the original polys. (This is, in addition to being really neat, kinda hard to describe.) * Metaform handles adjacent, non-selected polygons differently. Not sure if this is an improvement, but it makes some interesting patterns. :) * Cool blue surface normals. * Keyboard Shortcuts is under the F12 key. -Jim | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0232 | ... James G. Jones * NIBBLES & BITS * jgjones@usa.net From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 12:37:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA22609; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:52:31 -0700 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA17130; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:48:34 -0700 Received: from primenet.com.primenet.com (ip034.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.34]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with SMTP id IAA09764; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:47:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:47:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199505011547.IAA09764@mailhost.primenet.com> X-Sender: desktop@mailhost.primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ecohane@ix.netcom.com (Eric Cohane), Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca From: Brady@desktopimages.com (Desktop Images) Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: LW 4.0 Scene Loading Problem! Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk At 03:12 PM 4/30/95 -0700, Eric Cohane wrote: >>Hi All - Just got my spanking new LW 4.0 PC and whenever I load a >>scene I have copied over from my Amiga (on a disk via CrossDOS), LW >>crashes! >>Loading the scenes that come with LW 4.0 PC works fine, it's just the >>scenes I copy from the Amiga. I'm running Windows 95 with 16 Meg of >>RAM. >>Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution? > I think it may be a bug with Win 95. I have trouble loding both scenes created on the Amiga and on the PC system. They all load fine, however, under NT. Brady Caverly Instructional Videotapes for Desktop Images Desktop Video, Computer Animation, Windows and the Internet. **ORDER 1-800-377-1039** Or http://www.destkopimages.com/desktop/ *********MASTERING THE TOOLS OF TOMORROW********* From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 15:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA02739; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:54:54 -0700 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA27087; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:33:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:33:31 -0700 From: bdady (Brian Dady) Message-Id: <199505011933.MAA27087@netcom2.netcom.com> To: RFCoates@aol.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > > Robert Coates Try mirroring your right-hand object across its long axis (after offsetting so it doesn't cross the long axis). Brian VideoMagic --* From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 14:54:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA09463; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:11:22 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA09449; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:11:16 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA05716 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:56:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:56:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Bones problem. To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 mbutler@micron.net wrote: > Maybe I'm not crazy. I've spent hours of work and sleepless nights trying to > make bones work properly for a character figure, and I've not been able to do > it without splitting the character into separate objects. Personally, the only way I've ever been able to get reliable results with Bones is to model my characters with the arms and legs as seperate objects. Here are some tips I can give you for working with bones... For your average humanoid character, you should have five objects, a torso/head, two arms, and two legs. Put a good sized bone in the torso and a couple of bones in the neck and head...you can also put bones where the shoulders would be if you want to simulate shoulder movements when moving the arms. Parent the arms to the torso and add bones to them...put the first bone where the torso shoulder bones are/should be and make all other bones children of this first "shoulder" bone. By doing this, you can match torso/shoulder movements to the bone movements of the arms. Parent the legs to the torso and add bones where appropriate. Make sure all bones' rest lengths cover the entire portion of the object you want that bone to manipulate, but never have them overlap. When applying bones to fingers or very close objects, try to model the object with as much space between each finger as possible...this will lessen the effect of bones influencing other parts of the object you don't want them to. Never use Limited Region bones for this type of animating...the only thing I've ever found Limited Region bones useful is doing facial expression or very subtle disturbances in an object. When animating, move only the bones and not the objects themselves. I have found it convenient sometimes to keep the bones' rest positions keyframed at frame 0, especially when tweaking the movements of your character's bones. Start your animation keyframing at frame 1 so the rest positions can be easily adjusted if need be. Hope these suggestions help.... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 15:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA05027; Mon, 1 May 1995 07:40:11 -0700 Received: from little-miami.iac.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA04652; Mon, 1 May 1995 07:37:25 -0700 Received: by little-miami.iac.net id KAA24894; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:35:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:35:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Hoffmann To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Another strange screen display problem! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I was going through the metaform tutorial in the latest LWPro (LW 101), and liked the results so much, I decided to cut the numbers into the faces and make the complete die object (as in singular of dice ;-) ). So, I created my metaformed die, and made number 1-6 in another layer, positioned the letters one by one, and did a boolean subtract to creat the recessed numbers on the die faces. Looked great, even had all the surfaces named right! I went to save the object, no problem. I also exported it to Layout. Still in Modeler, though, I reloaded the object and it was all hacked up! While the original object looked fine in the solid preview, the reloaded one had strange lines internal to the die connecting seemingly random points from one face to another! No real pattern, just a mess, although the outside contour of the die was ok. When I went to Layout, that version was all screwy too, and rendered with weird holes were the strange connecting line were! I tried to save with a different name, with nothing in the other layers and nothing! Anyone have a clue? BTW, this is LW 3.5 SA (Amiga, obviously) with no past problems at all! ------------------------------------ my sig! ------------------------------ | I brew the beer I drink! # This sig has been cruelly | | Try the Ohio Valley Amiga Users Group # tested on furry little animals. | | home page --> http://www.ovaug.org # http://iac.net/~ehoffman | From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 16:52:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA23284; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:28:30 -0700 Received: from sage.acti.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA22953; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:26:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 95 08:16 PDT Message-ID: <9505010823.AA04744@sage.acti.com> Received: from acti.com by sage.acti.com; Mon, 1 May 95 08:16 PDT X-Sender: dan@sage X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) Subject: Re: Flyer-list? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Hi, does someone on here know if there is a flyer list, and if so it's >address? If not maybe one of you kind LW'ers who has a flyer can explane >an odd problem I had at a studio yesterday: Currently, the Video Toaster mailing is a good place to post Flyer related items. To subscribe to the Toaster mailing list, send e-mail to "listserve@netcom.com". In the body of the message, include: subscribe toaster-l end If you wish to subscribe an address other than the one you're sending e-mail from, include that address after 'toaster-l'. Depending on what happens this week, I might not move the mailing lists over to Primenet. They do allow for digests however they are considered as another mailing list and at $10.50 per mailing list with four mailing lists... I'm checking in with another mailing list/web site service now that may be far more reasonable. The fun continues... Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy | djmccoy@primenet.com or netcom.com and dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 19:14:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA23849; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:59:01 -0700 Received: from rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA04813; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:57:50 -0700 Received: from line22.pm1.nwm.mindlink.net by rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s62Xx-0004JUC; Mon, 1 May 95 13:58 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 May 95 13:58 PDT X-Sender: Daen_Campbell@mindlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: Daen_Campbell@mindlink.net (Daen Campbell) Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >To: lightwave-l@netcom.com > >Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need >to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the >surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but >have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > >Robert Coates > How about loading the right hand into modeller, mirroring it & then deleting the right hand? DC From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 19:14:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA27005; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:25:02 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA09218; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:28:52 -0700 Received: from hpmwtd.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA189730972; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:29:32 -0700 Received: from calvin.sr.hp.com by hpmwtd.sr.hp.com with SMTP (15.11.1.6/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA02201; Mon, 1 May 95 16:29:30 -0700 Received: by falcon.sr.hp.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23.1.1 $/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA050640967; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:29:27 -0700 From: Mike Powell Message-Id: <199505012329.AA050640967@falcon.sr.hp.com> Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:29:26 -0800 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Ed Hoffmann" at May 1, 95 10:35:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2118 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > I was going through the metaform tutorial in the latest LWPro (LW 101), > and liked the results so much, I decided to cut the numbers into the > faces and make the complete die object (as in singular of dice ;-) ). So, > I created my metaformed die, and made number 1-6 in another layer, > positioned the letters one by one, and did a boolean subtract to creat > the recessed numbers on the die faces. Looked great, even had all the > surfaces named right! I went to save the object, no problem. I also > exported it to Layout. Still in Modeler, though, I reloaded the object > and it was all hacked up! While the original object looked fine in the > solid preview, the reloaded one had strange lines internal to the die > connecting seemingly random points from one face to another! No real > pattern, just a mess, although the outside contour of the die was ok. > When I went to Layout, that version was all screwy too, and rendered with > weird holes were the strange connecting line were! I tried to save with a > different name, with nothing in the other layers and nothing! > > Anyone have a clue? BTW, this is LW 3.5 SA (Amiga, obviously) with no > past problems at all! > This appears to be a _big nasty bug_. It may to be related to the copy protection of SA since I have only heard of this problem in SA. It has cost me many hours of work. I think that it might also be related to the import/export of objects, but since everyone seems to use this so much, it's hard to tell. I think this "spider-web" scrambling is the way modeler responds to a 'missing dongle'. I have not seen this problem with the Toaster version. Copy protection is understandable, but copyprotection that destroys work and makes a port unusable is simply intolerable. Of course the nasty part of this one is that you don't have any clue that there is a problem with your object usually until _after_ you have saved it... meaning that the last usable version of your object was written over. Damn. I hope it doesn't bite you again... and perhaps it will be solved in V4.0... -Mike- From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 20:10:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA16732; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:33:53 -0700 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA16706; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:33:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Bones problem. To: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > But after hours of playing around, I cannot seem to get the > > bone "influences" to work properly with the model. > > Maybe I'm not crazy. I've spent hours of work and sleepless nights trying to > make bones work properly for a character figure, and I've not been able to do > it without splitting the character into separate objects. Getting bones to work well with a solid character is/was not, shall we say, that easy. Some new bone advances for the final shipping 4.0 should prove to help that along... JG From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 20:35:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA14213; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:10:44 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA14192; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:10:39 -0700 Received: from hustle.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA07301 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 May 1995 18:11:19 -0700 Received: from satlink.UUCP by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA23537 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lightwave-l@netcom.com); Mon, 1 May 1995 18:11:19 -0700 Received: by satlink.net with uucp (FX UUCP) for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Mon, 01 May 95 19:46:32 -0400 Received: by sicoar1.satlink.net (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 01 May 95 18:46:01 ARG for lightwave-l@netcom.com To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: ggarramuno@sicoar1.satlink.net (Gonzalo Garramuno) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 01 May 95 18:43:36 ARG Organization: SiCoAr BSAS1 - BBS - UUCP-FTSC mailer - Bs. As. Argentina Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Thanks everybody who answered my request. The macro was uploaded by Suraj Gulrajani to the Tomahawk site. You may need to wait for a couple of days for the FTP Admin to move it to the /LW/arexx directory. BTW... I made a silly mistake and sent Suraj a buggy macro, so I have sent him a new one, with added features. Gonzalo Garramuno ggarramuno@sicoar1.satlink.net Carlos Sorin Cine S.R.L Buenos Aires, Argentina From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 19:51:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA14128; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:38:14 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA13908; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:36:55 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA24044 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 May 1995 13:36:37 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA14289 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for Lightwave ); Mon, 1 May 1995 13:36:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl Andrew Johnson To: Lightwave Subject: Named Motions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I've notced while checking ut LW scene files that motions can be named. DOes this mean that if I have a scene file and want to change up the motion, all I have to do is edit the scene and specify a motion file? Carl From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 19:45:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA12879; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:04:32 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA12450; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:02:08 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id LAA01909; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:02:07 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.12/4.7) id LAA26914; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:02:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Ives Chrystie Subject: Modler speed on PC? To: Lightwave List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Could someone comment on the speed of modeler?? How are teh screen updates compared to Amiga?? how about some of those complex commands??? Thanx ------------------------------------------------------- I'm just following my GROOVE and spreading happiness :) ------------------------------------------------------- University Of California at Santa Cruz - UCSC Adam Chrystie adamchry@cats.ucsc.edu ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 20:31:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA20101; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:14:12 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA19955; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:12:34 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA05745 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:12:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 17:06:29 -0400 Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <199504302340.QAA24697@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 videoman@netcom.com wrote: > > Last night, I had to turn my machine off 4 times, reload the scene and > > try rendering before I finally got LW to start rendering without the > > little speckles showing up. > > I'm not so sure this is LW. Do you run other software a lot? I have had > my amiga do strange display suff, (even had one wig out at a studio) and > 9 times out of ten it was the Custom chips on the MB getting over heated. > try taking the cover off... setting a small fan to blow cool air over it > and see if your speckles still show up... worth a try eh? Well, my first thought was that this was a heating problem, but the thing is, if I just let the computer render away, it can go for days or weeks of uninterrupted rendering without any speckles whatsoever. If I interrupt a rendering (for whatever reason) and restart it later, there's 20 or 30 percent chance now that LW will start rendering speckles in the image. Sometimes I can get rid of the speckles by simply rebooting, or sometimes I have to shut the machine off altogether, but it usually works fine once I power up again and reload the scene. I do not run any other programs in the background aside from the usual Arexx stuff and occasionally Pegger....these programs do not seem to have any affect on the speckles. Oh well, guess I'll have to hope for the best when LightWave 4.0 shows up! -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 21:54:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA00503; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:46:00 -0700 Received: from rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA00465; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:45:49 -0700 Received: from line33.nwm.mindlink.net by rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s67yf-0004KEC; Mon, 1 May 95 19:46 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 May 95 19:46 PDT X-Sender: Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca (Eric Thornquist) Subject: Thanks & Bernoulli 150 CrossDOS Mountlist? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Hi All, Thanks to all for the help on loading Amiga scenes into LW 4.0 on the PC under Windows 95. It does appear the solution is to Load from Scene the objects, save them all, and then edit the scene file to point to the right directories. Perhaps the crashing can be fixed in the final release? Please, Allen? Now for my next problem. I'm shuttling the completed frames from the PC to the Amiga (with a PAR) by using a serial connection. This is way too slow. I have a Bernoulli 150 that I can connect to both but cannot get the Amiga to read it using CrossDOS. Do I have to buy the commercial version of CrossDOS or does someone have a mountlist that will do it for me? Rick From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 20:39:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA22394; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:53:13 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA22297; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:51:57 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA00756 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:52:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:52:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Looping Brush effect? To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <9504291918.5dj0@nesbbx.rain.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Thomas Healy wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to do a "Looping Anim-Brush" effect in LW > like you can do in Dpaint. I.E.: I have a 60 frame loop of a walking figure > and I want to incorperate it into a longer Animation where the figure walks > through a room and out. What I'm looking to do is like what you can do in > Dpaint. Take a "Anim-Brush" and loop it within the Animation. Is there a > way to do this in LW? The closest thing I can figure is to manipulate the > motion path of the walking figure. Anyone have any Sugestions?? Hmmm...I'm not sure if you're asking about looping the movements of an object or using a looping image sequence within your LightWave animation, so I'll cover both! To make an object repeat it's movements throughout a scene, simply select that object's Motion graph by pressing 'M' and then click on the Repeat key. Whatever motion you've defined for that object will repeat throughout the entire animation. Please note though, that if you've animated the object using Bones, then you'll need to click on Repeat for each bone's motion graph. Now, if you want to use an "anim-brush" within a LightWave animation, the looping anim brush will need to be saved as individual sequential images (an Image Sequence). So, load your anim brush into DPaint, and save it as an image sequence...when you select the Save Picture option, you'll see "From" and "To" fields, which should be set to the first frame for "From" (usually 1) and the last frame for "To"...when you click Save, DPaint will save your image sequence by appending the appropriate frame number onto the save file name. So you've saved the actual image sequence you'll need for brush mapping, but you still need to save an Alpha image sequence to use for clip mapping, so go into the palette menu and change all the colors (except for the black background) to solid bright white (values of 15,15,15)...so you'll now have an animation of a white shape against a black background. Save this image sequence the same way you did before but use a slightly different filename and maybe a different directory. You now have two sets of image sequences which you will then map onto an object in LightWave. Enter LightWave and then Modeler...select the Box tool and draw a rectangle in the X/Y view that's maybe 6 units wide by 4 units high. Click Make. Select Polygon from the TOP of the screen and then click the Surface button on the left side of the screen...type in an appropriate surface name for the rectangular polygon you just made(ex:plane). Select Object from the top of the screen and Export this object as whatever you want to call it (ex:plane.lwob). Go back to LightWave's Layout screen. Select Images from the top of the screen and click on Load Image Sequence, find the first image sequence you saved from Dpaint and click on one of the frames...then remove the last three number from the filename and press enter (so if the image filename is "FRED.004", you should have entered "FRED.")...no image will be loaded just yet, but LightWave knows where to look for it when it's ready....next you want to click on Loop Sequence and enter the number of frames in the image sequence. Now do the exact same thing for the second image sequence you saved from DPaint but use the different filename/directory you saved the second image sequence under. Next, select the Surfaces menu and find the polygon surface name you selected for your object (ex:plane)...click the little T button (for Texture) next to the Color selector window...you'll see Planar Image Map, which is what we'll use here, and a bar under it that says "None"...put the mouse pointer on the bar with "None" in it, hold down the left mouse button and find the first image sequence you loaded into LW. Click the "Z" axis button and then click Automatic Sizing, also click okay when the Automatic Sizing warning appears. Then click on Use Texture at the bottom of the screen. Next, select the Objects menu and find the name of the object you exported from Modeler...click the "T" (Texture) button next to Clip Map. Select the second image sequence you loaded into LW, set it for the Z axis and hit the Automatic Sizing button like you did for the first image sequence under the Surfaces menu...last, click on the Negative Image button. Clip Mapping will cut out any parts of an object that have white mapped onto it, so everywhere there was black in your Alpha image sequence will now be white (Negative) and your object will be cut out to match these areas of white. Click Use Texture and then save your objects and this scene. Whew! You're ready to render now....what you should end up with when you render is the image of your anim brush on a flat "cardboard cutout" object. Since you selected Loop Sequence, the images used for brush mapping and clip mapping will automatically repeat throughout the length of you animation. You can then move the object through the scene, thus mimicking DPaint's Move function. This technique would be especially useful if you had an image sequence of a person running or swimming...you could move the object across the screen and it would look as if the person were running or swimming across the screen...you could then add objects in front of and behind this person and get a nice layering effect. =) If you have any questions about what I've described above, then ask away... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 23:25:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA20907; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:34:20 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA20891; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:34:14 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02793 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:34:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:34:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, Ed Hoffmann wrote: > I reloaded the object > and it was all hacked up! While the original object looked fine in the > solid preview, the reloaded one had strange lines internal to the die > connecting seemingly random points from one face to another! Sounds like a loose dongle to me...make sure that lovely little piece of.... ....err.....copy protection is securely connected to your serial port and try reloading the object, it should have saved properly, but LW will not load objects properly if the dongle is acting finicky. Make sure your computer is off when you try to reseat the dongle...also, make sure the dongle's screws are tightened down, but not too tight. -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 00:20:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA12226; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:52:41 -0700 Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA08907; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:27:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Modeler 4.0 cc: LIGHTWAVE-L@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <199505011501.JAA22906@earth.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, James Jones/Nibbles and Bits wrote: >> Some cool new Modeler stuff Don't forget that you can save zoom levels/layers and window sizes under the numeric keypad keys and do math in the numeric requesters! JG From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 00:32:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA14303; Mon, 1 May 1995 22:06:40 -0700 Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09237; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:30:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > I was going through the metaform tutorial in the latest LWPro (LW 101), > and liked the results so much, I decided to cut the numbers into the > faces and make the complete die object (as in singular of dice ;-) ). So, > I created my metaformed die, and made number 1-6 in another layer, > positioned the letters one by one, and did a boolean subtract to creat > the recessed numbers on the die faces. Looked great, even had all the > surfaces named right! I went to save the object, no problem. I also > exported it to Layout. Still in Modeler, though, I reloaded the object > and it was all hacked up! While the original object looked fine in the > solid preview, the reloaded one had strange lines internal to the die > connecting seemingly random points from one face to another! No real > pattern, just a mess, although the outside contour of the die was ok. > When I went to Layout, that version was all screwy too, and rendered with > weird holes were the strange connecting line were! I tried to save with a > different name, with nothing in the other layers and nothing! Did your dongle fall out? JG From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 1 22:20:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA12243; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:53:37 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA12032; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:52:31 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07266 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:54:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199505012154.OAA07266@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:56:14 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need >to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the >surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but >have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > >Robert Coates Why can't you just mirror the hand? Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 01:03:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA19421; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:23:16 -0700 Received: from clark.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA19355; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:22:18 -0700 Received: (jamesb@localhost) by clark.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA13229; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:22:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:22:51 -0400 (EDT) From: James Brooks To: Lightwave Mailing List Subject: April issue of LWPRO out! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk YaaHoo!!! Just received my April issue of LWPRO! :-) FYI --- Issue consist of: - Tutorial on Sparks (the program) - Tutorial on creating a Starfield - Tutorial on creating Fractal trees by using PC program, LPARSER - Tutorial on making Simple Refraction - Tutorial on Metaform (Lightwave 101) "Holding curves with Metaform" Well, it is time to dig in and have fun! :-) Later, Alex --------------------------------------------------------------- James "Alex" Brooks Amiga 4000/040/28MHz 20MB RAM Lightwave 3.5 / Imagine 3.0 VideoToaster 4000 3.1 Syquest 3.5" 270MB Bernoulli 90Pro NEC 3xp Triple Speed CDROM Warp Engine 4028 Epson ES-600C Scanner E-Mail: jamesb@clark.net -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 01:17:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA23503; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:23:52 -0700 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA23407; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:23:09 -0700 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA19032 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:22:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 01:22 BST-1 From: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Fenton) Subject: Re[2]: DraCO's RISC chip for Amiga To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Reply-To: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: <199505010317.WAA08757@lois.dti.com> blaise@lois.dti.com wrote: >I'm entirely biased by the fact that we sell Alpha workstations, but >I don't get it. When you talk about an Alpha processor that runs at >450 MIPS, you are probably talking about the 21064A. If you put >enough memory and cache alongside this thing so that it becomes a >reasonable renderer, then you're in the price range of cheap 21064A >workstations. The Alpha card will cost 2000 to 3000 DM (German currency) so I guess that's under $2000? (sorry if my previous post gave a different figure). This is cheaper than an Alpha WorkStation even if you add RAM. (Unless you're selling Alphas at really good prices? :-) >NT (if it is, please ignore my ENTIRE post), and therefore has, as of >this moment, exactly zero applications. Correct. A library is being written (eg alpha.library) which will allow programmers to write apps which utilise the Alpha as a co-pro. I'll post more info if I get any. I'm just a journalist! :-) Gary F. From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 01:18:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA24853; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:38:06 -0700 Received: from island.amtsgi.bc.ca by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA24743; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:37:23 -0700 Received: by island.amtsgi.bc.ca (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s661q-000KzJC; Mon, 1 May 95 17:41 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 May 95 17:41 PDT From: dretch@IslandNet.com (Christopher Stewart) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Bones problem. Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated Sun, 30 Apr 95 09:40 mbutler@micron.net writes: M> Maybe I'm not crazy. I've spent hours of work and sleepless nights trying M> to make bones work properly for a character figure, and I've not been M> able to do it without splitting the character into separate objects. M> I'm not sure it can be done. Still, I'd be overwelmed with joy if someone M> could tell me I'm wrong. I've had limited sucess with an animated hand by putting multiple bones in a segment I want to bend. (ie. three or four bones arrayed inside a finger's segment instead of one). It, careful control of the limited range and the use of null axis work in a rather limited fashion. If there's some great secret to getting bones to work, I've yet to discover it. I tend to break up my object as much as possible and assign bones to various pieces of it for a more (I hope) "artistic" effect. Christopher ----------- "I wish there was a knob on the TV Christopher Stewart to turn up the intelligence. PRIMORDIAL SOUP There's a knob called `brightness', Graphics and Animation but it doesn't work." -- Gallagher Dretch@IslandNet.com ------------------------------- * Offline Orbit 0.73c * From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 02:31:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA29146; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:56:32 -0700 Received: from bos1c.delphi.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA29053; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:55:40 -0700 From: MADVIDEO@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HQ03EA4O0G8X5BB3@delphi.com>; Mon, 01 May 1995 20:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 20:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Flyer 4.03 To: Lightwave-l@netcom.com Message-id: <01HQ03EA57AQ8X5BB3@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"Lightwave-l@netcom.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk At the dealer I work at we recieved 4.03 of the Toaster/Flyer soft today, along with a note that said all registered uses would be receiving thiers soon. CG, edit Switcher, format and Calibrate, were updated. LW is still Pre-release, but should be out with the next upgrade, 4.1, I don't expect this for a month. Marc A Dole MADVideo@Delphi.com 603-659-7778 Alpha Lightwave Animator/Amiga Re-animator From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 01:09:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA01288; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:08:57 -0700 Received: from Beach.silcom.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA00662; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:05:43 -0700 Received: from caddy.uu.silcom.com by Beach.silcom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00448; Mon, 1 May 95 09:07:44 PDT Received: by caddy.uu.silcom.com (wcGATE v4) id 32795W Mon, 1 May 1995 16:04:10 GMT From: mike.vandersommen@caddy.uu.silcom.com (Mike Vandersommen) Subject: Competitive upgrade Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:17:00 GMT Message-Id: <9505010904102428@caddy.uu.silcom.com> Organization: Caddyshack BBS To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Seems I remember someone mentioning that New Tek will be offering a competitive upgrade for Lightwave 4.0 when it "officially" ships. Does anyone know if this is indeed true? Do you know if it will be available for Imagine users? Price? ....and can it be for cross platform? (ie. Imagine Amiga to LW 4.0 PC). Thanks for any info..... _______________________________________________________ /_________________________________________________________\ /=============================================================\ =| Mike van der Sommen || Email: |= =| GraFX Haus BBS || mike.vandersommen@caddy.uu.silcom.com |= =| Santa Barbara, Ca. || ______________________________________ |= =| "..where the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse play golf..." |= =| 14.4k v.32bis 24 hours - 805-683-1388 |= \_____________________________________________________________/ --- þ InterNet - GraFX Haus BBS - Santa Barbara, Ca - (805) 683-1388 From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 01:42:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA27509; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:42:23 -0700 Received: from efn.efn.org by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA01742; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:31:28 -0700 Received: from haus.efn.org.efn.org by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA13024; Mon, 1 May 95 11:30:41 PDT Received: by haus.efn.org.efn.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10072; Mon, 1 May 95 11:31:01 PDT Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:31:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike McCool To: RFCoates@aol.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object In-Reply-To: <950501121519_102639456@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA Interesting coincidence. This identical topic is now reigning on the Imagine mailing list. The easiest answer anyone came up with was to scale the original object a -1 in the y (or whatever) plane. Shouldn't this work in LW? The question (in Imagine) was how to MIRROR an object. Same problem: a guy had one hand, needed the other without having to model it all over again. From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 02:13:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA28328; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:45:27 -0700 Received: from mv.mv.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA05580; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:45:47 -0700 Received: by mv.mv.com (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-940616) id OAA23536 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:46:05 -0400 Received: by fusion.mv.com (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0080w; Mon, 1 May 95 13:45:13 EST Date: Mon, 1 May 95 13:45:13 EST Message-Id: <9505011845.AA0080v@fusion.mv.com> Message-Id: <2098a6de.d3980-mark@fusion.mv.com> In-Reply-To: (from garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Fenton)) (at Mon, 1 May 95 00:06 BST-1) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 4.159) From: mark@fusion.MV.COM (Mark Thompson) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: DraCO's RISC chip for Amiga Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk wites: > There are no definate prices yet. DraCO could be about £3000 and the RISC > DEC ALPHA card from $2-3000. The DSP card from Phase 5 is due out much > later this year for about $2500. > The question is, will NewTek be willing to change the LW code to run with > the promised RISC/DSP hardware for the Amiga? I don't speak for NewTek, but I'd be willing to bet that the answer is "absolutely not". It doesn't make any financial sense to do so. LightWave will be moved to those platforms that have the numbers to justify the cost and effort of a port, and more importantly, support. And with comparable Alpha systems costing perhaps a little less, whats the point. My guess is, your looking at a repeat of that dismal Transputer based Warp System and its so-called LightEngine. *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * Mark Thompson (603) 424-1829 * * Fusion Films Inc. mark@fusion.mv.com * * Radiant Image Productions * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 02:47:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA19323; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:08:40 -0700 Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA19040; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:07:08 -0700 Received: from ppp62.cac.psu.edu (ppp62.cac.psu.edu [128.118.73.62]) by genesis.ait.psu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA10678 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:07:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199505012207.SAA10678@genesis.ait.psu.edu> X-Sender: ajc126@psu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 18:04:16 -0400 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: ajc126@psu.edu (Anthony Cingle) Subject: PC PAR and LW 4.0 (again) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk O.K., talked to a guy at DPS about the problems I've been having with the PAR. I followed his instructions to the T. 1. Click on save RGB. 2. Enter filename WITH the .TGA extention 3. select "Name001" for output filename format 5. select Targa as your file format 6. renderaway Well I did all of this, and still the same thing happens. LW will render directly to the PAR, but it doesn't advance the frames. So when I render a 30 frame animation. All I see when I go into the PAR is a one frame .ANI file. It writes over all of the previous frames with the next one. He was running LW 3.8X. and said that it was working fine for him. Could it be the different versions of LW? I don't know. I'm really depressed at the moment. I sunk a huge chuck of cash into the PAR and LW, and to find out that they won't work togther is rather depressing to say the least. :( Has ANYONE been able to render directly to the PAR (s.w. version 1.5) with LW 4.0 for the PC? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, if you have I'd love to know how. Tony From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 03:34:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA15683; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:53:30 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA15120; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:51:03 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA00198 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:51:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 17:50:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <950501121519_102639456@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995 RFCoates@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA Dude, if you've got a right hand object, then you've already got a left hand object! (with a little work) Go into modeler, load the hand object, select the Modify menu (top of the screen), click on Stretch (left side), then click the Numeric button and enter a value of -1 on an appropriate axis (probably the X axis).... this will make a mirror image of the right hand, thus a left hand! But wait, you're not done yet! By making a mirror image of the hand, you've flipped the objects polygons, so select the Polygon menu (top of the screen) and click on Flip (left side)...this will flip the hand's polygons back to their correct orientation and your left hand will now render correctly. Save this as your Left Hand object and you're ready to animate! Hope this helps..... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 04:39:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA27653; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:11:17 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA27601; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:10:45 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA28867 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:10:44 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id XAA26598 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:10:43 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Bones problem. Lines: 34 Date: Mon, 1 May 95 23:10:42 PDT Message-ID: <9505012310.2.26457@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > >> But after hours of playing around, I cannot seem to get the > >> bone "influences" to work properly with the model. > > >Maybe I'm not crazy. I've spent hours of work and sleepless nights > >trying to make bones work properly for a character figure, and I've > >not been able to do it without splitting the character into separate > >objects. > > >I'm not sure it can be done. Still, I'd be overwelmed with joy if > >someone could tell me I'm wrong. > >I did an attempt to animate the triceratops using bones and failed >miserably. I had over 30 bones in it, toes, jawbones, everything, >and even simplified the bone layout in later attemps. Never could >get them to work right The only way it would work was to split up >the triceratops. > >Tank > Hmmmm, on the few occasions I've used bones, using limited region and salting the objects with bones seems to work, i.e., I'll have a major "headbone" and a bunch of smaller headbones parented to it with a very small region to prevent the head geometry from being deformed. But I don't use them a lot..... *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 08:18:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA06152; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:11:51 -0700 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA03675; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:52:10 -0700 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA01230 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Tue, 2 May 1995 03:51:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 03:50 BST-1 From: dbarnard@cix.compulink.co.uk (Dave Barnard) Subject: Re: LW arexx & A4000 To: GUNNAR@scala.no Cc: dbarnard@cix.compulink.co.uk, lightwave-l@netcom.com Reply-To: dbarnard@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: gunnar.norum@scala.no said: > I have been making a small arexx script at home on my A3000 to control > some aspects of the Lightwave Layout. > Everything was working fine, but when I brought it to work it failed > miserably, saying "Error 13, Host environment not found." > This comes up for the first line after the "Address LightWaveArexx.port" > Is there a difference in the operation of Lightwave on A3000 and A4000? Gunnar, have you checked that you have the rexxapp.library installed? Lightwave Layout's Arexx port will *not* work unless this library is present and did not appear to be included in the 3.5 Standalone version (at least the version I have) I discovered this after buying Wavemaker, which could not communicate with Lightwave, producing the same error message, until I grabbed this library off my Aminet CD set. Now I know why my Layout Arexx scripts never worked... ;-/ Gross Slackness Awards to all parties concerned for not including this disk-hungry 1568 byte file... ;-S >---- Dave ----< From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 07:56:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA06270; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:13:26 -0700 Received: from geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA19826; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:35:42 -0700 Received: from geoscc.oslo.sgp.slb.com (geoscc.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com) by geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (4.1/Oslo-211193-1) id AA16588; Tue, 2 May 95 08:35:46 +0200 Received: from cc:Mail by geoscc.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A03576; Tue, 02 May 95 08:37:21 MET Date: Tue, 02 May 95 08:37:21 MET From: Ivan Moen Message-Id: <9505020837.A03576@geoscc.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com > To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Amiga & PC PAR Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk How compatible are the PC and Amiga PAR? Can I copy the PAR animation's from the Amiga to the PC PAR? If I move the HardDisk from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR will my animation's be lost? Ivan Moen From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 07:56:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA06099; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:11:17 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA07381; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:52:33 -0700 Received: by mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #20) id m0s6765-000DKEC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:49 CDT Received: by oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu id 0T38U01C Mon, 01 May 95 20:42:26 From: alan.chan@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Message-ID: <9505012042.0T38U01@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu> Date: Mon, 01 May 95 20:42:26 Subject: NEED LFT HAND OBJECT To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By > restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the > right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA What's wrong with mirroring the hand in Modeler? AC From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 09:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA06124; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:11:30 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA08967; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:39:21 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA21173; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:39:10 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 1 May 95 19:50 CDT Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 1 May 95 19:50 CDT Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:50:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Crookshank, MicroTech Solutions, Inc." Subject: Re: 30 fps previews? Part II To: James Jones/Nibbles and Bits cc: LIGHTWAVE-L@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <199505010026.SAA23378@earth.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, James Jones/Nibbles and Bits wrote: > I guess PC diagnostics entails looking at ALL the different components > of your system for the problem's cause. > Even the mouse pad, no doubt. :) I always advise clients to keep their original Amiga mouse pad when they upgrade platforms. After all, it got you this far... ;-) ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 09:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA27926; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:33:46 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA27906; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:33:39 -0700 From: RFCoates@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA228645218; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:33:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:33:38 -0400 Message-Id: <950502102637_103900641@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LeftHand Obj. Thanks Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Thanks for all the suggestions. Yeah, just mirror the right hand to create left. Duhhhhh! I use mirror all the time when modeling but didn't think of it here. Anyway sorry for the bandwidth but thanks for the quick responses. Project is now well under way. Robert Coates From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 10:41:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA12715; Tue, 2 May 1995 08:13:18 -0700 Received: from iglou.iglou.com by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA12679; Tue, 2 May 1995 08:13:10 -0700 Received: by iglou.iglou.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0s6JcE-0001zMC; Tue, 2 May 95 11:11 EDT Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Meshew To: James Brooks cc: Lightwave Mailing List Subject: Re: April issue of LWPRO out! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, James Brooks wrote: > > YaaHoo!!! Just received my April issue of LWPRO! :-) > > > FYI > --- > > Issue consist of: > > - Tutorial on Sparks (the program) > > - Tutorial on creating a Starfield > > - Tutorial on creating Fractal trees by using PC program, LPARSER > > - Tutorial on making Simple Refraction > > - Tutorial on Metaform (Lightwave 101) "Holding curves with Metaform" > > > Well, it is time to dig in and have fun! :-) > > Later, > > Alex > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > James "Alex" Brooks Amiga 4000/040/28MHz 20MB RAM > Lightwave 3.5 / Imagine 3.0 VideoToaster 4000 3.1 > Syquest 3.5" 270MB Bernoulli 90Pro > NEC 3xp Triple Speed CDROM Warp Engine 4028 > Epson ES-600C Scanner E-Mail: jamesb@clark.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > The latest version of the LPARSER program along with a collection of objects created with that program is included on LIGHT-ROM 2. Michael Meshew Graphic Detail From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 07:09:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA07926; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:37:39 -0700 Received: from gandalf.muscatine.k12.ia.us by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA07899; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:37:28 -0700 Received: (from wdfrawly@localhost) by gandalf.muscatine.k12.ia.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA28965; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:34:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:34:33 -0500 From: William Frawley Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object To: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <950501121519_102639456@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995 RFCoates@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA Have you tried just "Mirroring" the left hand on the appropriate axis in Modeler? --- Bill ____________________________________________ ** ** ** William Frawley ** ** BlueLine Studios - 3D Animation Design ** ** 1-319-264-1965 ** ** ** ** wdfrawly@gandalf.muscatine.k12.ia.us ** ** ** ** "Sativas get higher than Indicas" ** **____________________________________________** From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 12:55:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA29344; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:04:48 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA29330; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:04:44 -0700 Received: from enet-gw.pa.dec.com by inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (5.65/24Feb95) id AA01865; Tue, 2 May 95 11:02:04 -0700 Received: from marbls.enet by enet-gw.pa.dec.com (5.65/09May94) id AA03001; Tue, 2 May 95 10:58:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9505021758.AA03001@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Received: from marbls.enet; by decwrl.enet; Tue, 2 May 95 10:58:37 PDT Date: Tue, 2 May 95 10:58:37 PDT From: 02-May-1995 1356 To: lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com Apparently-To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: upgrade cutoff Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk My Lightwave Dealer John Sauter(System Eyes Computer Store) called me to tell me the cutoff date for upgrading 3.5 SA was June 30th. He got this from his rep at NewTek. To bad looks like I will go with the PC version but will have to run 3.5 until I get a PC, an that could be many months. bill From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 13:17:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA24811; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:16:20 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA24788; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:16:13 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA18645 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021817.LAA18645@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:18:33 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Modler speed on PC? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Could someone comment on the speed of modeler?? How are teh screen >updates compared to Amiga?? how about some of those complex commands??? Thanx > It depends on the speed of the computer. On my 486-66 Modeler is faster at the same screen res, but because I run it at 1024x768 the screen updates are a little slower. However Modeler and Layout look great at hi res. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 13:15:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA12338; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:06:49 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA12314; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:06:43 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA17886 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:07:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021807.LAA17886@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:09:16 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >> Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need >> to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the >> surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but >> have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > >Interesting coincidence. This identical topic is now reigning on the >Imagine mailing list. The easiest answer anyone came up with was to scale >the original object a -1 in the y (or whatever) plane. Shouldn't this >work in LW? > In LightWave be sure to use Mirror. If you scale (Stretch) by -1 all of the surface normals will be reversed. This is not a problem in Imagine because it always renders double sided. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 13:16:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA00777; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:58:20 -0700 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA29599; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:47:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > > Interesting coincidence. This identical topic is now reigning on the > Imagine mailing list. The easiest answer anyone came up with was to scale > the original object a -1 in the y (or whatever) plane. Shouldn't this > work in LW? Yes, just make sure that you flip all of the polys back out as scaling it by -1 will flip them in. (I would just mirror the damn thing) JG From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 13:53:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA11447; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:38:59 -0700 Received: from throm.jpl.nasa.gov by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA29305; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:30:51 -0700 From: Enrique.A.Gamez@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov Received: from danea-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov by throm.jpl.nasa.gov; Tue, 2 May 95 10:01:39 -0700 Received: by danea.jpl.nasa.gov (5.x/SMI-SVR4+DXRs2.3+GKEs1.0) id AA20112; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:01:38 -0700 Received: by danea from ccmail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov id <950502100137.CC5194967@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> with CCTORFC Tue May 2 10:01:37 1995 Message-Id: <950502100137.CC5194967@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Date: 02 May 95 09:17:00 -12407 To: Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On how many other LISTS can you answer a question in this manner without bringing up John Wayne Bobbitt? ;-) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! Author: at Internet Date: 5/1/95 9:30 PM >Did your dongle fall out? >JG From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 14:40:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA15689; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:51:23 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA15659; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:51:16 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ar08161; 2 May 95 18:10 GMT-60:00 Received: from hanger.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab14244; 2 May 95 18:07 GMT-60:00 Received: by hanger.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00045; Tue, 2 May 95 17:02:19 GMT Date: Tue, 2 May 95 17:02:19 GMT Message-Id: <9505021702.AA00044@hanger.demon.co.uk> Return-Receipt: darren Return-View: darren@hanger.demon.co.uk Organization: PandGImaging X-MailViewer: Mail 1.15 From: Darren Priestnall To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Sorry for putting this on the Lightwave mailing list, but I don't suppose where there's any job's going for a soon to be unemployed animator :( I can send examples of me work either as computer digital image's on disk or via the net or animation's in the Mpeg, Fli, Flc, SSA, Anim format's or on video tape. Email me if anyone can help or else I'll just have to try and get more Freelance work........thank's. Does anyone know the official shipping date for the Amiga version of Lightwave V4 ? Oh yes, any detail's regarding the update price's ? A friend is considering trading in his 3D software for the excellent and user friendly Lightwave......not before time either :) -- ~===========================================================================~ Darren Priestnall - darren@hanger.demon.co.uk (PandGImaging) Connecting via Demon Internet, Finchley, London, N3 1TT. Tel: 081-349-0063 -- Full IP Connectivity for a 10 UKP per month - no usage/online fees!! -- From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 15:26:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA13491; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:56:20 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA05260; Tue, 2 May 1995 08:14:40 -0700 Received: by mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #20) id m0s6JcF-000DKkC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:11 CDT Received: by oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu id 0E3H300H Tue, 02 May 95 10:02:03 From: alan.chan@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Message-ID: <9505021002.0E3H300@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu> Date: Tue, 02 May 95 10:02:03 Subject: NAMED MOTIONS To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > I've notced while checking ut LW scene files that motions can be > named. > DOes this mean that if I have a scene file and want to change up the > > motion, all I have to do is edit the scene and specify a motion Yes, and that's what the motion graph is for. You can load/save a motion to load into some other graph. There is usually even a subdirectory in your system labeled Motions that all your motions get saved to, so you can call a motion you've saved from a previous project (assuming you saved the motion file..) AC From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 17:12:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA07872; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:33:19 -0700 Received: from ormail.intel.com by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA07849; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:33:11 -0700 Received: from relay.jf.intel.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s6QVQ-000UsnC; Tue, 2 May 95 15:33 PDT Received: from ccm.hf.intel.com by relay.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0s6QVO-000twpC; Tue, 2 May 95 15:33 PDT Received: by ccm.hf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #2) Tue, 02 May 95 15:33:22 PDT Date: Tue, 02 May 95 15:30:00 PDT From: DawsonX Schaffer Message-ID: To: listserv@netcom.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Questions For NewTek... Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I just received my copy of LW4.0 for the PC and I have some questions regarding plans/features for LW on the PC. My System: 486DX4 32MB Ram Win95 (Latest April Release) Tseng4000 VLB Video Card (w/2MB VRAM) 1) I am running in 1024 x 768 64K color mode and the only render preview available seems to be nothing more than a postage stamp size on my screen. I cannot seem to change its size regardless of the render resolution. There is a setting for Render Frame Buffer, but I have no selections available. What are available? What will be available?, etc. I would very like to be able to generate a fuller screen render with out having to render to a file and then load it into an display program (I could use REXX to do this, but that is no longer available). Will the capability be in the final 4.0 release or is planned (if at all) for a future version? 2) The controls for generating and ANIM file are in the PC version but when selected they inform you that ANIMs can only be generated on an AMIGA. What about PC FLIC or more appropriately AVI (Video for Windows) format. Why not generate and AVI file. It would still be nice to get some idea of what a color render would look like. I realize the VT4000 is not there and that precludes the 30fps Toaster preview, but I have some 320 x 200 AVI with a lot of motion that play at 30fps. I would like to see this ability in LW. Is this planned, a plug in, etc.? 3) The wireframe previews in Layout. They play at most 10fps and I cannot seem to get them to go any faster. I also have a beta copy of TrueSpace (Caligari) and their wireframe preview can be played full screen at 60fps (LightWave is still by far my favorite 3D package). What is my problem? Are there plans for variable sized previews so that the 30fps can be obtained. 4) The manual and box mention several plug-ins for rendering and loading and saving. My pre-release copy did not come with any plug-ins (I have searched the CD). With these plug-ins, will I be able to texture map with JPG, TIFF, etc.? How about rendered file; JPG, TIFF, etc.? It would be very nice to have all those file formats available for both texture mapping and rendering (saving). What are the plans. 5) Screamer Net. I do not have Screamer Net, but I have already purchased a 120MH Pentium system and I plan to buy another copy of LightWave for it. Since they will be networked together with the Win95 networking (WinSOC), will I be able to cooperatively render with the two machines. If not, it seems silly to have to buy additional software when I already have to FULL blown copies of LW. 6) Are there any plans to support some of the new video boards that are coming out with 3D rendering capability (i.e. - Matrox Video Impression). These boards will automatically be support when Win95 ships with the OpenGL (note: OpenGL will most likely be added after Win95 ships, as a patch or update). I realize Win95 is still unreleased but what are the LightWave plans for these standards(OpenGL?) and the newer video boards? 7) There is no mention in the documentation regarding the textures Steve Worley (APEX) did for LW 3.5. Are there plans to include more of his textures as plug-ins for the final release? 8) The final release. There was no mention in the package of what was as yet missing from the pre-release. Can I/we get some idea of what the final package will include. 9) This may seem like a long list, but if LightWave wasn't my favorite 3D/Art/Creative package I wouldn't take the time. Finally, THANKS for releasing LW in a pre-release form. It really has helped to get my hands on it now. Dawson M. Schaffer eMail: DawsonX_Schaffer@jf.ccm.intel.com darkstar@teleport.com From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 16:50:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA27724; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:36:15 -0700 Received: from cello.QNET.COM by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA27619; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:35:45 -0700 Received: by cello.QNET.COM (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s6LsI-0003kuC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:36 PDT Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Manuel Coats X-Sender: mcoats@cello To: davewarner@globalone.net cc: LightWave Mail List Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 May 1995 RFCoates@aol.com wrote: > > > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > > Dude, if you've got a right hand object, then you've already got a left > hand object! (with a little work) > > Go into modeler, load the hand object, select the Modify menu (top of > the screen), click on Stretch (left side), then click the Numeric button > and enter a value of -1 on an appropriate axis (probably the X axis).... > this will make a mirror image of the right hand, thus a left hand! > > But wait, you're not done yet! By making a mirror image of the hand, > you've flipped the objects polygons, so select the Polygon menu (top of > the screen) and click on Flip (left side)...this will flip the hand's > polygons back to their correct orientation and your left hand will now > render correctly. Save this as your Left Hand object and you're ready to > animate! > -David Warner Or you could just use the MIRROR tool and then cut out the unwanted hand. Walla, done. Manny From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 17:07:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA07465; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:04:26 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA07175; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:02:53 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA17555 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:03:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021803.LAA17555@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:05:15 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Bones problem. Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'm no expert on bones, however I do have one suggestion. Don't take the word bones too literaly. You do not have to set them up in a skeleton fashion. Think of them more as handles that you push and pull to deform your object. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 17:40:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA08681; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:51:24 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA08624; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:51:11 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA08197 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:51:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 19:51:53 -0400 Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995, John Bourg wrote: > We've experienced this problem with our lightwave system too. We're running > an Amiga 3000 (yes there are some people using the 3000) with a Toaster 4000 > card and Lightwave 3.5. We called Newtek about the problem. The tech I spoke > to seemed to think it was more of a graphics chip from in the Amiga rather > than a Toaster problem. Anyway we're back to square one as well. Uh HUH! So, the common denominator here is the Amiga 3000...I'm experiencing this problem only on my A3000 w/Warp Engine running LightWave 3.5 Standalone. My Toaster machine (A2000 w/G-Force and Toaster4000) has never experienced this problem during the 3+ years I've been rendering LW anims. I wonder if this is something Allen knows about and it will be corrected in 4.0 or it it's a hardware problem....I've started playing with different CPU settings for the Warp Engine...LightWave will definitely not work with CopyBack turned on...gonna try some other things though and hope for the best. -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 22:30:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA10026; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:46:56 -0700 Received: from clss1.bangor.ac.uk by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA09910; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:46:19 -0700 Received: from clss1 (clss1.bangor.ac.uk) by clss1.bangor.ac.uk; Tue, 2 May 95 12:46:50 BST Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:46:48 +0100 (BST) From: Christian Graham X-Sender: bss104@clss1 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Cylinderical image maps seam angle? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone know how I can alter the seam angle on a cylinderical image map? I'm building a circular room with an entrance and exit that are just off center and I need to find a way of shifting my image map round a few degrees so that the seam is above either the entrance or exit. Anyone any ideas. Email me direct if its a really easy answer. Thanks and Best Regards to you all, Christian bss104@bangor.ac.uk ODA/SBS Video Producer and Animator, School of Biological Sciences, University of Wales, Bangor. U.K. From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 19:09:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA23922; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:59:28 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA23519; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:57:25 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05200; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:57:24 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19906; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:58:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:57:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LW arexx & A4000 To: Dave Barnard Cc: GUNNAR@scala.no, dbarnard@cix.compulink.co.uk, lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > I have been making a small arexx script at home on my A3000 to control > > some aspects of the Lightwave Layout. > > Everything was working fine, but when I brought it to work it failed > > miserably, saying "Error 13, Host environment not found." > > This comes up for the first line after the "Address LightWaveArexx.port" > > Is there a difference in the operation of Lightwave on A3000 and A4000? > > Gunnar, have you checked that you have the rexxapp.library installed? > > Lightwave Layout's Arexx port will *not* work unless this library is > present and did not appear to be included in the 3.5 Standalone > version (at least the version I have) I think that the NewTek BBS has a copy of that lib mainly because they forgot to include it. Just a sidenote... -- Joe From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 23:21:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA07730; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:31:41 -0700 Received: from daemon.apana.org.au by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id EAA07704; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:31:19 -0700 Received: (from sumaleth@localhost) by daemon.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA31811 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:31:55 +1000 From: Rowan Crawford Message-Id: <199505021131.VAA31811@daemon.apana.org.au> Subject: Multi-keyframer To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:31:53 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1282 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > Alias Power Animator has a feature - sure just one - that I'd like to see in > LW. It allows you to view multiple motion curves simultaneously. Not only > can you view and manipulate all of an object's motion, rotation, scaling and > visibility at once, you can also select any or all other elements in the > scene and view and edit their curves. This can be a little overwhelming at > first but it allows you to easily match timing and motion of seperate events > for seperate elements. Just imagine being able to view or edit an objects This feature of Alias one probably the biggest hurdle in it's learning curve. Coming from Lightwave to Alias, it is a BIG step in trying to handle all these different parameters, each with it's own set of keyframes. But there is no doubt that this is where Alias gets most of it's power. So the question is really what Lightwaves aim is - is the aim to be powerful or simple to use? Even the option to have both could be confusing. I'd like to see the "more power" approach, but that's because I'm familiar with the approach now ;). Today I was keyframing an animation (on Alias) that had probably 10000 keyframes across 100 objects.. argh. Row. Animagrafx --SAB30086.799405164/daemon.apana.org.au-- From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 21:39:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA16744; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:18:16 -0700 Received: from earth.usa.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA11653; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:09:44 -0700 Received: (from jgjones@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA28580 for LIGHTWAVE-L@NETCOM.COM; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:07:35 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:07:35 -0600 From: James Jones/Nibbles and Bits Message-Id: <199505030207.UAA28580@earth.usa.net> To: LIGHTWAVE-L@netcom.com Subject: Cylinderical image maps s Content-Length: 768 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know how I can alter the seam angle on a cylinderical image > map? I'm building a circular room with an entrance and exit that are > just off center and I need to find a way of shifting my image map round > a few degrees so that the seam is above either the entrance or exit. Try rotating the "room" object in modeler (rotate around 0,0,0) so that the image will line up properly, and then just un-rotate it in Layout. If other sufaces will be messed up by this method, separate the surface that needs to rotate out as another object. -Jim | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0232 | ... James G. Jones * NIBBLES & BITS * jgjones@usa.net From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 21:39:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA12604; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:36:48 -0700 Received: from little-miami.iac.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA12450; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:36:00 -0700 Received: by little-miami.iac.net id KAA02196; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:35:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:35:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Hoffmann To: John Gross cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, John Gross wrote: > > ... Still in Modeler, though, I reloaded the object > > and it was all hacked up! While the original object looked fine in the > > solid preview, the reloaded one had strange lines internal to the die > > connecting seemingly random points from one face to another! ... > > Did your dongle fall out? > > JG > THAT'S a rather personal question! :-) Actuall, I followed the thread on the dongle/display problems, and I made sure first thing that it was OK (thank you lightwave-l!). So, to my satisfaction, it is not a dongle problem. First time I have seen anything like this - I will investigate further and report back any interesting results... From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 23:18:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA01908; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:42:35 -0700 Received: from mv.mv.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA01869; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:42:15 -0700 Received: by mv.mv.com (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-940616) id QAA25717 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:42:51 -0400 Received: by fusion.mv.com (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0084g; Tue, 2 May 95 14:45:52 EST Date: Tue, 2 May 95 14:45:52 EST Message-Id: <9505021945.AA0084f@fusion.mv.com> Message-Id: <209a069e.208db-mark@fusion.mv.com> In-Reply-To: <9505020837.A03576@geoscc.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com > (from Ivan Moen ) (at Tue, 02 May 95 08:37:21 MET) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 4.159) From: mark@fusion.MV.COM (Mark Thompson) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Amiga & PC PAR Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > How compatible are the PC and Amiga PAR? > If I move the HardDisk from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR will > my animation's be lost? I just moved my HD from the Amiga to the PC PAR and everything was still there and worked perfectly. *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * Mark Thompson (603) 424-1829 * * Fusion Films Inc. mark@fusion.mv.com * * Radiant Image Productions * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 01:53:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA05690; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:58:12 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA05676; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:58:08 -0700 From: DanEsmond@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA187250882; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:01:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:01:22 -0400 Message-Id: <950502004206_103587179@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Retarded Preview Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk LW-PC 4.0 Pre-Release under Win 3.1 For some reason my previews ALWAYS take 65% longer to play back than they should. For example 120 frames takes 6.6 seconds at 30 fps and 66 seconds at 3 fps. I've tried 2 different display resolutions, 3 display modes, shut down all other tasks, and run in a 1/4 size window. Regardless of what I do with the system, or what playback speed I choose I get the same 165% playback. I'm running a 90 Mhz Pentium... Did I miss something during setup? I'm baffled. Do I need to change something in CMOS? Dan Esmond Animagic Austin, TX From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 01:59:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA14045; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:30:28 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA13682; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:28:34 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA08448 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:29:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:29:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995, Manuel Coats wrote: > Or you could just use the MIRROR tool and then cut out the unwanted hand. > Walla, done. Oh sure! You could that...but isn't that taking the EASY way out?? Ahem....Mirror, ya say? Hmmm....time to whip out a cliche...lessee, "You learn something new every day"...ummm...."Stitch in time saves nine" ....ummm...."Bird in the hand..." I think it's time to read the documentation.... =) -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 00:53:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA12302; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:27:43 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA12286; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:27:34 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (downinit@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA17036 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:28:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:28:14 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LW 4.0 PR Intel Install Weirdness Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Cool, finally got it. Comes with a 6 month sub to VTU too! Thanks Tim & Jim. I converted my D: drive to NTFS before the install. The installer still puts the 16bit (8.3 Names) Content on my disk. No problem, just delete everything and copy it back from the 32bit directory. But! The dongle driver was not auto installed, so I figured it out, find the right disk (3) and install from Control Panels/Drivers. OK. Reboot the system and hang at the point where my Dual Boot screen comes up. Can you say I/O conflict? Fuck. As in FuckFuckFuck. NewTek, please put a Working Installer Script that checks the machine's config before assigning a Port and I/O Address to the dongle. Argh. Here I go again, pulling cards, dongles etc. etc. I really hate this silly architecture. Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 04:31:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA18772; Wed, 3 May 1995 03:09:05 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA18765; Wed, 3 May 1995 03:09:01 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13816; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:09:28 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13589; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:10:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 06:02:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: Switcher and programs To: James Brooks Cc: Toaster List , LightWave Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > At times when I am in the SWITCHER, I have programs that run in the > background and sometimes when they are done they want to come to the > front of the screen. Of course that can not happen when you are in the > SWITCHER screen. At that point you do not have control of the SWITCHER > any more. > > Question: Is there any way that I can get the SWITCHER screen to 'come > back' for I can have control without rebooting? I have tried cntl-cntl > alt-alt and that do not work. I have tried left amiga M key combos and I > thing it switch programs but can not see them because the SWITCHER screen > will not move. > > I guess this question has been ask before? Not that I've noticed... > What really spark me to asking this question is my terminal program was > dialing out and trying to connect and it and there were busy signals. > While I was playing with the Switcher the terminal program finally got a > connection and the program took over and tried to pop the screen in front. > Had to reboot! :-( I've had the EXACT same problem! I have Flyer .94 (and am praying that 4.03'll be here soon...) and the ctrl-ctrl-alt-alt has been replaced with the standard Amiga-M keys, but any prgrams like Term or ImageMaster R/t that pop the screen to front fail to -- The Toaster screen remains in from, so clicking does nothing, but te current program in use is not on the screen, so you can't use that, and Amiga-M/ctrl-ctrl-alt-alt doesn't work, so you have to reboot! I've learned to turn off Term when in the Switcher -- works fine in LW, though (more system compliant -- I think TPaint'll work, too, but nothing else I bet...) ALSO, the front-to-back screen gadgets will NOT switch between the Flyer switcher and the other Amiga screens -- only Amiga-M. AND I use an overscan WorkBench screen (656x240 or something), and when Amiga-M-ing from LW (or front-to-back gadgeting), I get the same screen, only flickering. It's like another interlaced screen has been dragged down part way, and flipping screens pops it up where I don't want it (does that make ANY sense? probably not... ) Well, you get the point. I'd like to know if these little things'll be fixed ever... -- Joe From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 02:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA06746; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:20:01 -0700 Received: from rhythm.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA06685; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:19:42 -0700 Received: by rhythm.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for lightwave-l@netcom.com id AA00610; Tue, 2 May 95 15:20:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 15:20:18 -0700 From: neil@rhythm.com (Neil Richmond) Message-Id: <9505022220.AA00610@rhythm.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LW Upgrade Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I justr got off the phone with Newtek. The upgrade cutoff is June 30. Also anyone planning to get a DOS card for your Mac and run LW can forget it. It won't work. This is a MAJOR disappointment!!!! Anyone who got onto the Mac platform from the Amiga is out in the cold.:-( :-( :-( neil " Give a skeptic an inch and he'll measure it. " Neil F. Richmond neil@rhythm.com Rhythm & Hues Inc. From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 02:51:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA13546; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:49:31 -0700 Received: from sage.acti.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA13468; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:49:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 15:45 PDT Message-ID: <9505021545.AA22976@sage.acti.com> Received: from acti.com by sage.acti.com; Tue, 2 May 95 15:45 PDT X-Sender: dan@sage X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) Subject: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon Cc: toaster-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk A few months back, I mentioned I would probably move both the Lightwave and Video Toaster mailing lists to my primary internet provider. As it turns out, it would cost me $20 per month to run the mailing lists with digests there. Though with killing off my Netcom account, I'd have that money but my intentions were to find a home for the mailing lists with digest capabilities but also save me some money. :) I've found a place that will allow me to run as many mailing lists as I wish with digests and automatic archiving. Though there ARE bandwidth quotas, I should fall below those quotas. At any rate, I've had an account set up and will set up the mailing lists as soon as the account is enabled. When I'm happy with the way things go, I'll let everyone know. Until that time, render on! Dan (Who hopes Eudora formats a message before it sends it otherwise the above is one big mess... WHOOPS!) -- Daniel J. McCoy | djmccoy@primenet.com or netcom.com and dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 04:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28572; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:07:46 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28530; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:07:10 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA06162 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:06:42 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id AAA28773 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:06:42 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cylinderical image maps seam angle? Lines: 22 Date: Wed, 3 May 95 00:06:41 PDT Message-ID: <9505030006.3.28663@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know how I can alter the seam angle on a cylinderical image >map? I'm building a circular room with an entrance and exit that are >just off center and I need to find a way of shifting my image map round a >few degrees so that the seam is above either the entrance or exit. > >Christian If you are using an Amiga, you can use ADPro to slide/wrap the image any given number of pixels. There's an operator to do this. > >bss104@bangor.ac.uk >ODA/SBS Video Producer and Animator, *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 04:29:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28574; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:07:46 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28498; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:07:03 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA06153 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:06:31 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id AAA28770 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:06:31 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PC PAR and LW 4.0 (again) Lines: 18 Date: Wed, 3 May 95 00:06:30 PDT Message-ID: <9505030006.2.28663@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk A. Cingle writes: > He was running LW 3.8X. and said that it was working fine for him. >Could it be the different versions of LW? I don't know. I'm really >depressed at the moment. I sunk a huge chuck of cash into the PAR and LW, >and to find out that they won't work togther is rather depressing to say the >least. :( Why so bummed? You can still save out to HD, then to PAR, no? > > Tony > *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 04:04:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA23486; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:34:19 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA23222; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:32:41 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA08068 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:33:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 19:33:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, Eric Case wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > > Sounds like a loose dongle to me...make sure that lovely little piece of.... > > ....err.....copy protection is securely connected to your serial port and > ^^^^^^^^^^^????? > Hmm this could be the problem, I bet he has it on the parallel port. :) > -Eric Ugh! I gotta stop taking naps while I'm typing! =) Yes, the LW 3.5 Standalone dongle goes into the PARALLEL port.... ....zzzzz.... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 04:49:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA29376; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:41:18 -0700 Received: from ormail.intel.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA28945; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:39:35 -0700 Received: from relay.jf.intel.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s6Peq-000UiwC; Tue, 2 May 95 14:39 PDT Received: from ccm.jf.intel.com by relay.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0s6Pep-000tx7C; Tue, 2 May 95 14:39 PDT Received: by ccm.jf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #1) Tue, 02 May 95 14:39:03 PDT Date: Tue, 02 May 95 14:34:00 PDT From: DawsonX Schaffer Message-ID: To: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com, ecohane@ix.netcom.com, Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Re: LW 4.0 Scene Loading Problem! Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Text item: I have seen the same problem on my Win95 system. However I finally got it to work by editing my LightWave configuration file (LW.CFG) and changing the path statements to point to the directory where I installed LW (I put it on my D: drive instead of C:). After the change all worked fine. Well most of the time! I can still get LW (Layout) to crash every 5-10 min, without much help. System: 486DX4 32MB Ram Win95 (Latest April Release)(I am always up to date) Dawson M. Schaffer At 03:12 PM 4/30/95 -0700, Eric Cohane wrote: >>Hi All - Just got my spanking new LW 4.0 PC and whenever I load a >>scene I have copied over from my Amiga (on a disk via CrossDOS), LW >>crashes! >>Loading the scenes that come with LW 4.0 PC works fine, it's just the >>scenes I copy from the Amiga. I'm running Windows 95 with 16 Meg of >>RAM. >>Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution? > I think it may be a bug with Win 95. I have trouble loding both scenes created on the Amiga and on the PC system. They all load fine, however, under NT. Brady Caverly Instructional Videotapes for Desktop Images Desktop Video, Computer Animation, Windows and the Internet. **ORDER 1-800-377-1039** Or http://www.destkopimages.com/desktop/ *********MASTERING THE TOOLS OF TOMORROW********* Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: LW 4.0 Scene Loading Problem! From: Brady@desktopimages.com (Desktop Images) To: ecohane@ix.netcom.com (Eric Cohane), Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 X-Sender: desktop@mailhost.primenet.com Message-Id: <199505011547.IAA09764@mailhost.primenet.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:47:58 -0700 Received: from primenet.com.primenet.com (ip034.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.34] ) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with SMTP id IAA09764; Mon, 1 May 1 995 08:47:58 -0700 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA17130; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:48:34 -0700 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA22609; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:52:31 -0700 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s64Ib-000Upfa; Mon, 1 May 95 15:50 PDT Received: from ormail.intel.com by relay.jf.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0s64Ic-000txJa; Mon, 1 May 95 15:50 PDT From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 06:33:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09719; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:46:41 -0700 Received: from cello.QNET.COM by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09623; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:45:30 -0700 Received: by cello.QNET.COM (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s6WIW-0003s3C; Tue, 2 May 95 21:44 PDT Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:44:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Manuel Coats X-Sender: mcoats@cello To: Ivan Moen cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Amiga & PC PAR In-Reply-To: <9505020837.A03576@geoscc.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com > Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995, Ivan Moen wrote: > > How compatible are the PC and Amiga PAR? > Can I copy the PAR animation's from the Amiga to the PC PAR? > If I move the HardDisk from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR will > my animation's be lost? > > Ivan Moen Yes you can move the HD over to the PC and use it with a PC PAR. I did it myself. One problem though that you are bound to run into is the file names. Make sure you name all the files and directories on the amiga PAR with 8 characters or less. THen when you have hooked it up to your PC, Optimize the drive using the PAR software, otherwise you are bound to run into problems if your drive is already more than half full, atleast I did. You won't be able to delete the files that were created on your amiga either, atleast not until you rename it under the PC PAR software. Manny From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 07:08:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id CAA09856; Wed, 3 May 1995 02:18:00 -0700 Received: from hermes.rdrop.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id CAA09825; Wed, 3 May 1995 02:17:31 -0700 Received: from nesbbx.UUCP by hermes.rdrop.com with UUCP (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s6aYe-000FIxC; Wed, 3 May 95 02:17 PDT Received: by nesbbx.rain.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <5e81@nesbbx.rain.COM>; Wed, 3 May 95 00:23:41 PST Date: Wed, 3 May 95 00:23:41 PST Message-Id: <9505030823.5e81@nesbbx.rain.COM> X-Mailer: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) From: Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM (Thomas Healy) To: ggarramuno@sicoar1.satlink.net, lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: {none} Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In , ggarramuno@sicoar1.satlink.net (Gonzalo Garramuno) writes: > Thanks everybody who answered my request. The macro was uploaded by > Suraj Gulrajani to the Tomahawk site. You may need to wait for a couple > of days for the FTP Admin to move it to the /LW/arexx directory. > BTW... I made a silly mistake and sent Suraj a buggy macro, so I have > sent him a new one, with added features. > If anyone feels like E-mailing this Macro to me, I would be grateful (Dead that is ;) Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: ** LIVE CONCERTS FOR TRADE ** Thealy@nesbbx.rain.com REM, U2, PEARL JAM, THE DOORS + MANY MORE send e-mail if interested, your list gets mine "Before I ever learned how to talk, I forgot what to say" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 11:59:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA14089; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:34:47 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA12621; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:27:13 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA27079; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:27:28 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 3 May 95 08:27 CDT Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 3 May 95 08:27 CDT Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Crookshank, MicroTech Solutions, Inc." Subject: Re: Switcher and programs To: Joe Angell cc: James Brooks , Toaster List , LightWave Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, Joe Angell wrote: > It's like another interlaced screen has been dragged down > part way, and flipping screens pops it up where I don't want it (does that > make ANY sense? probably not... ) Well, you get the point. I'd > like to know if these little things'll be fixed ever... You've guessed the deep secret. When you ctrl-ctrl-alt-alt, the Switcher screen is put away behind the Workbench, and shoved down below your viewing area. When you use the front/back gadget on the Workbench, the Switcher screen comes to the front, but it's still down out out sight. But because the "front-most" screen (Switcher) is an interlaced screen, the other visible screens will be interlaced by the OS as well. The new Toaster/Flyer 4.xx software uses Amiga/M to switch screens, but all that's changed is the hotkey. The result is still the same. Any program running in the background that issues a "screen to front" and "make it active" command will cause you to lose control of the Switcher. Now if only the mouse would go down that low.... ;-) ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 11:35:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA13989; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:33:42 -0700 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA29640; Wed, 3 May 1995 03:02:35 -0700 From: videoman Message-Id: <199505031002.DAA29640@netcom9.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Retarded Preview To: DanEsmond@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 03:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <950502004206_103587179@aol.com> from "DanEsmond@aol.com" at May 2, 95 01:01:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 787 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > what playback speed I choose I get the same 165% playback. > > I'm running a 90 Mhz Pentium... Did I miss something during > setup? I'm baffled. Do I need to change something in CMOS? you left out an important part... what video card? -- .__________________________________________________________________________. | -== When Dreams Become Reality ==- -= IM Design=- | |"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""|"""""""""""""""""""""|""""""""""""""""""""| | videoman@netcom.com | FTP: ftp.netcom.com | Video Production | | videoman@cyberspace.org | DIR: pub/videoman | 3D Graphics & DTP | | Mosaic Home Page: file://ftp.netcom.com/pub/vi/videoman/web/HOME.html | From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 12:01:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA05227; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:46:53 -0700 Received: from lucy by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA05206; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:46:46 -0700 Received: from mindgames by lucy with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0s6geK-00019QC; Wed, 3 May 95 11:47 EDT Received: by mindgames.com (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00q7w; Wed, 3 May 95 11:42:23 EDT Date: Wed, 3 May 95 11:42:23 EDT Message-Id: <9505031542.AA00q7v@mindgames.com> From: videoman@mindgames.com (Jeffrey Hall) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: VMM Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk VMM...hmmmmm What are the system requirements and where do I get it? ______________________________________________________________________________ Videoman @ Mindgames.com / Amiga Freak- Toaster Geek \ We've all become Gods madmen... C= is dead, Long live the AMIGA!!! / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 14:07:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA08374; Wed, 3 May 1995 12:59:35 -0700 Received: from earth.usa.net by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA20817; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:27:14 -0700 Received: (from jgjones@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA20202 for LIGHTWAVE-L@NETCOM.COM; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:25:05 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:25:05 -0600 From: James Jones/Nibbles and Bits Message-Id: <199505031525.JAA20202@earth.usa.net> To: LIGHTWAVE-L@netcom.com Subject: 30 fps previews... Content-Length: 1024 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk James G. Jones wrote: > Anyone else having trouble getting LW (4.0 pre-release on an P100 with > 32 MB ram and WinNT) to do 30 fps previews?? As usual, I should've done more digging before I posted. Through a bit of experimentation, I discoverd the solution: my particular graphics adapter (ATI WinTurbo w/2 MB VRam), when set to 800x600 with "16.7 million colors", was (it seems) causing the problem with slow preview playback as well as other things, like windows not being redrawn properly and slow feedback from some keyboard controls. When set to "true color", via WinNT's Display program, all the strange behavior disappeared and previews now do 30 fps reliably. I guess PC diagnostics entails looking at ALL the different components of your system for the problem's cause. Even the mouse pad, no doubt. :) -Jim | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0232 | ... James G. Jones * NIBBLES & BITS * jgjones@usa.net From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 14:06:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA08803; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:01:45 -0700 Received: from accursio.comune.bologna.it by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA16995; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:21:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199505031821.LAA16995@mail4.netcom.com> Received: from async-12.iperbole.bologna.it by accursio.comune.bologna.it with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA09906; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:23:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 20:23:56 +0200 X-Sender: fev0197@iperbole.bologna.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: fev0197@comune.bologna.it (Roberto Naldi) Subject: LW overseas upgrade Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Hello ev'rybody, my name's Roberto Naldi, I'm italian and a newbie to LW mailing list; my system's an Amiga 4000 18 megs RAM; 1.4 Gigs HD; CD-ROM and Picasso II 2megs wich I use for hobby and, sometimes, for work. I'm also one of the few and lucky (?) italian owners of a registered copy of LightWave 3.5 PAL. My question is: after sending the registration card I expected some feedback from NewTek, but nothing happens; now, with LW 4.0 at hand how can I get the upgrade? As a reg. user I think to have the right to a competitive one, ....or not? Thank you all in anticipation for the answers; best wishes. Roberto Naldi From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 13:59:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA28788; Wed, 3 May 1995 05:46:04 -0700 Received: from infomatch.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA28511; Wed, 3 May 1995 05:44:47 -0700 Received: (from trace@localhost) by infomatch.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA12987; Wed, 3 May 1995 05:45:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 05:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: The Tracer To: Enrique.A.Gamez@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov cc: jgross@netcom.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Not another strange screen display problem! In-Reply-To: <950502100137.CC5194967@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Ummm... not this one... :) But seriously...My question is for the LW world at large. I need a list of LW animation houses, preferably with 5 or more animator/modelers. Character animation experience is quite neccessary. In case I'm not being obvious at 6:00 am local time, my company needs a LW house to farm some work out to. The person (Company) we pick will get a contract for several months work, and will learn my real name and probably get drinks bought for them by me. Thanks in advance!! - trace On 2 May 1995 Enrique.A.Gamez@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov wrote: > On how many other LISTS can you answer a question in this manner > without bringing up John Wayne Bobbitt? ;-) > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: Another strange screen display problem! > Author: at Internet > Date: 5/1/95 9:30 PM > > > >Did your dongle fall out? > > >JG > From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 15:55:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA13220; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:52:34 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA13202; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:52:27 -0700 From: DanEsmond@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA257834356; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:52:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:52:36 -0400 Message-Id: <950503165235_105605861@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: More Sequences Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk LW-PC 4.0 I've got a rather expensive Moving Textures 100 disk chocked full of beautiful textures that LightWave 4.0 refuses to load as a sequence. They all use the file EXTENSION as the sequence number and some have numbers in the base name. Attempting to load them as the manual suggests or by any other method ( other than copying to disk and renaming each image ) is impossible in the current release. The operating system Ah-Hem... I mean GUI interface ( Win 3.1 ) objects to the selection technique outlined in the manual. Copying 900 images to disk and renaming them is not something I want to do. Someone please tell me this is being fixed for the final release. Dan Esmond Animagic From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 17:15:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA21845; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:03:17 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA21832; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:03:13 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) By server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA15431 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 18:03:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 18:03:54 -0400 Subject: Re: LW Upgrade To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <9505022220.AA00610@rhythm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995, Neil Richmond wrote: > anyone planning to get a DOS card for your Mac and run LW can forget it. It > won't work. This is a MAJOR disappointment!!!! Anyone who got onto the Mac > platform from the Amiga is out in the cold.:-( :-( :-( Where did you hear this? When you say "DOS" card, are you talking about the 486 board that's currently shipping or are you referring to any DOS emulator? Since LW 4.0 needs Windows, it doesn't surprise me that a DOS emulator won't work....I'm kinda hoping that the new Pentium boards for PowerMac (hopefully shipping in August) will do the trick. -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 2 17:22:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA04906; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:53:37 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA04392; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:51:10 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA16686 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:53:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021753.KAA16686@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:54:53 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Thanks & Bernoulli 150 CrossDOS Mountlist? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Now for my next problem. I'm shuttling the completed frames from the PC to >the Amiga (with a PAR) by using a serial connection. This is way too slow. >I have a Bernoulli 150 that I can connect to both but cannot get the Amiga >to read it using CrossDOS. Do I have to buy the commercial version of >CrossDOS or does someone have a mountlist that will do it for me? > >Rick You need to buy the commercial version of CrossDOS to use the Bernoulli. It works great. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 18:14:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA29442; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:37:48 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA29254; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:36:52 -0700 From: DanEsmond@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA090489016; Wed, 3 May 1995 12:36:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:36:56 -0400 Message-Id: <950503123653_105349473@aol.com> To: videoman@netcom.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Retarded Preview Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 95-05-03 06:03:35 EDT, you write: >> what playback speed I choose I get the same 165% playback. >> >> I'm running a 90 Mhz Pentium... Did I miss something during >> setup? I'm baffled. Do I need to change something in CMOS? > >you left out an important part... what video card? The video card is a Tseng Labs ET4000/W32P PCI with 1 Meg of VRAM. Why would the video card effect playback for speeds like 3 FPS where 90% of the time is spent waiting? I would find it hard to believe that LightWave is coded to plaster the same image up ten times in a row and then move on to the next. I would expect it to prepare the next image in a buffer and watch the clock until the exact moment arrives for the switch. This Mitac machine is a curse. I think I need to sell it and look for a whole new system. Dan Esmond Animagic From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 18:37:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA07839; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:27:35 -0700 Received: from larry.infi.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA07781; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:27:10 -0700 Received: from [204.117.157.199] by larry.infi.net with SMTP (8.6.12/Server1.12) id NAA02666; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:27:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:27:55 -0400 X-Sender: austin@mailhost.nr.infi.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: austin@infi.net (John-Mark Austin) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk We have to animate a roller coaster and wanted to add realistic thrust and gravity response. So far the only way we've found to do it is completely manually. It's a large piece though and without some kind of formula it's not going to be easy. We may have to resort to a spreadsheet. We purchased Impact and even the old ProMotion programs in hopes that they would be of help, but neither one will allow real world forces to be applied to an object with a *known* path. They seem to be more oriented toward applying forces and determining where the object will end up as a result. Some time ago I read an article in VTU or LWP that mentioned a program that would calculate accelertion and deceleration between key frames. I've poked around a few sites and have been unable to find anything that meets this description. Thanks. Any input is appreciated. ---------------- John-Mark Austin Audio Graphics 6008-B High Point Road Greensboro, NC 27407 'God is dead' - Neitzche 'Neitzche is dead' - GOD From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 18:45:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA13590; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:31:53 -0700 Received: from little-miami.iac.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA13320; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:30:30 -0700 Received: from slb.iac.net by little-miami.iac.net with SMTP id JAA14371; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:31:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:31:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199505031331.JAA14371@little-miami.iac.net> X-Sender: scottbe@iac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: scottbe@iac.net (Scott Bennett) Subject: Re: Amiga & PC PAR Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk You can take the Harddrive from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR, I would however recommend then backing up the files, formating the drive and reinstalling the files because there are slight differences between the two formats. You can NOT however take an exported PAR (anim) file from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Scott Bennett Voice: 606-371-5533 <> <> Digital Processing Systems, Inc FAX: 606-371-3729 <> <> scottbe@iac.net BBS: 416-754-8368 <> <> http://iac.net/~scottbe ftp.dps-inc.com <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > >How compatible are the PC and Amiga PAR? >Can I copy the PAR animation's from the Amiga to the PC PAR? >If I move the HardDisk from the Amiga PAR to the PC PAR will >my animation's be lost? > >Ivan Moen > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Scott Bennett Voice: 606-371-5533 <> <> Digital Processing Systems, Inc FAX: 606-371-3729 <> <> scottbe@iac.net BBS: 416-754-8368 <> <> http://iac.net/~scottbe ftp.dps-inc.com <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Scott Bennett Voice: 606-371-9690 < < Expert Services/ECO Development FAX: 606-282-5942 > > scottbe@iac.net BBS: 606-282-5943 < From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 20:29:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA14182; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:11:00 -0700 Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA13838; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:09:20 -0700 Received: from ppp13.cac.psu.edu (ppp13.cac.psu.edu [128.118.73.13]) by genesis.ait.psu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA23315 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199505031809.OAA23315@genesis.ait.psu.edu> X-Sender: ajc126@psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 14:06:21 -0400 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: ajc126@psu.edu (Anthony Cingle) Subject: Re: PC PAR and LW 4.0 (again) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >To: Jeric@cup.portal.com >From: ajc126@psu.edu (Anthony Cingle) >Subject: Re: PC PAR and LW 4.0 (again) > >>A. Cingle writes: >>> He was running LW 3.8X. and said that it was working fine for him. >>>Could it be the different versions of LW? I don't know. I'm really >>>depressed at the moment. I sunk a huge chuck of cash into the PAR and LW, >>>and to find out that they won't work togther is rather depressing to say the >>>least. :( >> >> Why so bummed? You can still save out to HD, then to PAR, no? >>> > >Yeah, but with only 40MBs free on my HD, it's rather a pain. > > But, I think I've solved one problem and found another. The Tech dude at DPS failed to mention that his system was running the new MCI drivers. I found them on the DPS BBS (416)754-8368 and loaded them on. > Now the par will accept the targas even though the naming is still screwed up (Name.tga001 instead of Name001.tga). They play back fine. A problem I found though is that if I enter the par drive with that DOS program they included (the thing w/ VCR type controls) and then exit, the PAR goes back to its old ways of writing over the frames it records. GRRR. > O.K. this wouldn't be a problem, BUT, (you had to know there was one coming) the only way to load image sequences off the PAR is to first enter the DOS program and then exit. I have no idea why but this is what you (or atleast I) have to do. If I don't LW (and Photoshop, Elastic Reality, etc.) gives me an error message saying it can't read the file. > So this is what it comes down to . I can either render directly to the PAR w/o the ability to take image sequences off the PAR (sounds like a small problem but I plan on doing a lot with recorded video to the PAR) or I can take sequences of the PAR, but I have to Render to MY puny HD. I'm not sure, but I must have done something really horrible in a past life or something and it's now just catching up. > I'm just hoping that with the full release of LW and the release of the New PAR drivers something is done so that I can render directly to AND load image sequences off the PAR. > >Fingers Crossed..... > Tony > From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 21:51:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA04871; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:38:28 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA04330; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:35:58 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04921; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:36:13 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22857; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:37:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:32:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LW Upgrade -- an Why Are Macs Slow? To: Neil Richmond Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <9505022220.AA00610@rhythm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > I justr got off the phone with Newtek. The upgrade cutoff is June 30. Also > anyone planning to get a DOS card for your Mac and run LW can forget it. It > won't work. This is a MAJOR disappointment!!!! Anyone who got onto the Mac > platform from the Amiga is out in the cold.:-( :-( :-( Why is it that Macs can't emulate even THEMSELVES (PowerPC running non-native) at a reasonable speed (68030-ish, I think), but an 040 33MHz Amiga can run Mac or PC software FASTER than an equivilent Mac or PC (040 40MHz Mac/486DX2 PC, using an EMPLANT)?!? Even SHAREWARE, software ONLY Shapeshifter claims the speed of an equivilently equiped Mac. Why won't the DOS card work on the Mac? I want to get an Emplant and a Picasso II simply to run PhototShop (and probobly Fractal Design Painter). It it some strange IBM addressing thing, or is the Mac just wierd? Thanx for the info on the upgrade stuff -- hopefully LW Amiga'll be around by then... (sorry for the non-LWish topic...) -- joe From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 22:30:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09139; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:33:48 -0700 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09123; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:33:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Retarded Preview To: DanEsmond@aol.com cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <950502004206_103587179@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995 DanEsmond@aol.com wrote: > For some reason my previews ALWAYS take 65% longer to play > back than they should. For example 120 frames takes 6.6 seconds > at 30 fps and 66 seconds at 3 fps. I've tried 2 different display > resolutions, 3 display modes, shut down all other tasks, and run > in a 1/4 size window. Regardless of what I do with the system, or > what playback speed I choose I get the same 165% playback. > > I'm running a 90 Mhz Pentium... Did I miss something during > setup? I'm baffled. Do I need to change something in CMOS? Since you are running under windows, I can't say for sure, but I had similar problems with previews running under NT. I could never get anything to play back realtime, even at 640x480 with 256 colors. When I uploaded a new NT driver for my card (the previous one I had was a beta version), everything worked great. Perhaps it is a driver problem with your card? JG From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 22:46:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA11178; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:52:12 -0700 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA08531; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:28:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:28:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: LW 4.0 PR Intel Install Weirdness cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > Reboot the system and hang at the point where my Dual Boot screen comes > up. Can you say I/O conflict? Fuck. As in FuckFuckFuck. > > NewTek, please put a Working Installer Script that checks the machine's > config before assigning a Port and I/O Address to the dongle. Argh. I may be mistaken, but I believe there is a readme file on the Rainbow driver install stuff (They make the dongle) that explains about possible conflicts. It is the driver software that selects IRQ stuff, not Newtek's install script. JG From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 22:51:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA18453; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:15:57 -0700 Received: from gw2.att.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA18422; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:15:48 -0700 Received: from anuxv.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA23289; Wed, 3 May 95 22:49:08 EDT Message-Id: <9505040249.AA23289@ig1.att.att.com> From: mvaf@anuxv.att.com (Alex Fernandez +1 508 960 6510) Date: 3 May 95 22:47:00 -0400 Original-From: anuxv!mvaf (Alex Fernandez +1 508 960 6510) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LW 4.0 PC Woes! Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk O.K. First, let me say that I'm a newbee to 3D animation, and LW in general. So I wouldn't be surprised if I'm doing something wrong (I hope I am). I'm running the pre-release on a PC with the following: 486DX2 @ 80Mhz 32 MB RAM 1.5 GB HD Diamond Viper VLB w/ 2MB VRAM Windows for Work Groups 3.11 w/ 32-bit file access & 32-bit disk access. Second, I just like to make a note that the install option should have an option for installing JUST the LW programs in case some out there don't have a CDROM. Otherwise, the installation process will not complete (Am I doing something wrong?). My computer at work doesn't have a CDROM, but my home computer does. My first problem is with the make preview function. When I make previews of animations, two things happen: 1. If the animation is less than about 100 frames, when I go to play it, all I see is the background and no objects. I know I'm doing something wrong here. Anybody know? 2. If the animation is longer than 100 frames, it hangs my PC after making the 105th or so frame. This happened with the spacefig.scn that came on the LW CD. It doesn't matter whether I'm using bounding boxs or wire frames, it still hangs. If anyone can tell me the exact procedure for making the preview of this without hanging up my PC, I'd greatly appreciate it. My second problem is when rendering a single frame (#43) of the blade scene on the LW CD. These are the settings: render type= Realistic Trace shadows = on Custom size = 1024x768 pixel aspect ratio = square pixels Antialiasing = Med. Soft Filter = on Adaptice Sampling = on Threshold = 8 With the above settings, my machine gets to rendering the second half of the frame and crashing with the following error (this is most likely useful only for the programmers): Win32s Error Lightwave.exe Unhandled Exception detected. (Code=0xC0000005, Lightwave.exe : 7C70B [or sometimes 7C67E]) Any clues?? Thanks! Alex AT&T Bell Laboratories No. Andover, MA From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 22:58:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA12072; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:10:13 -0700 Received: from everest.pinn.net by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA11939; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:09:36 -0700 Received: (zact@localhost) by everest.pinn.net (8.6.9/8.6.4) id AAA11067; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:09:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 00:09:19 -0500 (EST) From: David Thomas To: RFCoates@aol.com cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Need Lft Hand Object In-Reply-To: <950501121519_102639456@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk =:|\Pinnacle Online - Open and dynamic Internet services:= =:|o\. | | | ______ := =:|_/||\ ||\ | |\.| __ | Voice: 804/498.3889 email: info@pinn.net:= =:| || \|| \| o | \| \_ .| Data: 804/498.9762 login: guest or new := On Mon, 1 May 1995 RFCoates@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have or know someplace I can download a lefthand object. I need > to make a pair of white gloves for an invisible magician. By restting the > surfaces on the hand obj included with LW, I can use it for the right one but > have been unsuccessful in modifying it for the left one. TIA > > Robert Coates > try using mirror in modeler that might work.......Zact From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 23:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA02437; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:21:00 -0700 Received: from zevs.ifi.unit.no by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA02206; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:19:25 -0700 Received: from uranus.ifi.unit.no by zevs.ifi.unit.no with SMTP id AA00273 (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 4 May 1995 01:21:37 +0200 Received: by uranus.ifi.unit.no (4.1/Uninett-C-1.4) id AA06056; Thu, 4 May 95 01:21:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 01:21:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ole Andre Schistad To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: VMM In-Reply-To: <9505031542.AA00q7v@mindgames.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, Jeffrey Hall wrote: > VMM...hmmmmm > > What are the system requirements and where do I get it? VMM requires an MMU-equipped amiga , and a HD. The latter I would assume you already have , and the existence of an MMU can be verified by running enforcer and the supplied lawbreaker program. Enforcer can be found on aminet, in /pub/aminet/dev/debug/enf37_62.lha . You can also verify this by checking which CPU you have .. all 040 accelerators have an MMU , the A3000 has one , all 50MHz 030s have one , and all non-LC 4000s . If you have an 020 (even with a 68852) , an EC030 or an LC040 then VMM won't work. If you can run VMM , then by all means .. SWAP TO A PARTITION. Swapping to file is the best way to slow down any system, as every time a ram page is swapped in or out , the OS has to go through miles and miles of linked lists just to access the swap file. Be prepared that your renders will be much slower when the system starts swapping , and a good advice would be not to load VMM unless you're certain that you'll need the added memory ; VMM uses quite a lot of RAM on its own for buffers and program code. A side note: If you're the (un)lucky owner of a GVP Series-II controller , you will have to buy Gigamem in order to get VMem.. the scsi device conflicts with VMM , and produces instant crashes and can even thrash your HD pretty good. The guy at GVP who thought that mapping gvpscsi.device to address 0x300 0000 was a good idea should be publicly hung, drawn and quartered ; it's such a monumentally stupid thing to do. :-) Hope this helps, #include #define REALNAME Ole Andre Schistad #define EMAIL (schizo@nvg.unit.no || olesc@ifi.unit.no) #define OCCUPATION Comp.Sci student and 3D animation hobbyist. main(){ printf("Hello World\n");return(-1);} /* The world is an illusion. */ From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 23:28:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA28651; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:21:09 -0700 Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA27856; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:15:57 -0700 Received: from epa.epa.ericsson.se (epa.epa.ericsson.se [146.11.8.1]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with SMTP id BAA26392; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:15:38 +0200 Received: from bxsun163.epa.ericsson.se.epa.ericsson.se by epa.epa.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1-EPA1.6) id AA22547; Thu, 4 May 95 09:15:20 EST Date: Thu, 4 May 95 09:15:20 EST From: epajjy@epa.ericsson.se (John Yiannis - T/HY) Message-Id: <9505032315.AA22547@epa.epa.ericsson.se> To: imagine@email.sp.paramax.com Subject: Copy Protection Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com, animaster-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'm looking at PC versions of Imagine, Lightwave and Animation Master. Do any of these have some form of copy protection? I've seen the word dongle mentioned in some mail. If I had 2 or more programs would I have to have a dongle on top of a dongle on top of a dongle ... ? Will this work ? If there must (but preferably not) be some form of copy protection why not try the method used by some PC-CD ROM games. All they require is that the CD be in the drive. They then just check for the presence of the CD in the drive before they will start. I dont find this form of copy protction too intrusive and must be much cheaper than a dongle. What do others think? From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 23:01:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA23960; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:38:25 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA23745; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:37:23 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA15292 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 17:38:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:38:04 -0400 Subject: Re: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <9505021545.AA22976@sage.acti.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995, Daniel J. McCoy wrote: > it would cost me $20 per month to run the mailing lists with digests > there. Though with killing off my Netcom account, I'd have that money > Though there ARE bandwidth quotas, I should fall below those > quotas. At any rate, I've had an account set up and will set up the mailing > lists as soon as the account is enabled. Dan, instead of having to worry about bandwidth limits, why don't you go with the place you have to pay for and take up a collection from all the people here who benefit so much from your efforts! I'll make the first offer and cover you for a couple of months+. ($50) When the floodgates open wide and the IBM Wavers start showing up, the bandwidth is certainly going to increase...you put enough effort into this list without having to worry about trying to control "frivolous" conversations. Maybe you should get yourself a P.O. box and start including the address in your monthly notes here...I think enough people here would be willing to donate and support a GREAT LightWave resource! -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 00:32:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA27808; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:15:35 -0700 Received: from escape.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA27692; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:15:00 -0700 Received: (marc@localhost) by escape.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id TAA17513; Wed, 3 May 1995 19:11:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 19:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Delsoin To: Eric Thornquist cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Thanks & Bernoulli 150 CrossDOS Mountlist? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I have a mountlist for Bernoulli's if you still need it. Email me if you do not have it already.... On Mon, 1 May 1995, Eric Thornquist wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks to all for the help on loading Amiga scenes into LW 4.0 on the PC > under Windows 95. It does appear the solution is to Load from Scene the > objects, save them all, and then edit the scene file to point to the right > directories. Perhaps the crashing can be fixed in the final release? > Please, Allen? > > Now for my next problem. I'm shuttling the completed frames from the PC to > the Amiga (with a PAR) by using a serial connection. This is way too slow. > I have a Bernoulli 150 that I can connect to both but cannot get the Amiga > to read it using CrossDOS. Do I have to buy the commercial version of > CrossDOS or does someone have a mountlist that will do it for me? > > Rick > > ***************************************************************************** ** -=> Animated Images <=- ** Marc Delsoin -=> Animation Gun For Hire ** ** 3D Animation, Image ** 718-712-9352 marc@escape.com ** ** Processing, Morphing ** animated@interport.net ** ** Render Farm, Step ** ** ** Frame Recording ** Life, The Ultimate Game..... Enjoy It! ** ***************************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 05:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA19223; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:55:22 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA18763; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:53:17 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (downinit@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA20781 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:54:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 00:47:51 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: John Gross cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: LW 4.0 PR Intel Install Weirdness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I figured it out about a minute after I posted (of course). I also posted again about it explaining what a dork I had been, there was no I/O conflict... I had the LW Disk3 in the floppy drive still. The strange thing: no DOS Non-System Disk Error Message, go figure. But I never saw that second post get to the list. John, mind if I quote you? Dooogh! Also, my apologies for railing against the poor guy who gets to write NewTek's Windows Install scripts. That would not be >my< dream job at NewTek. Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 05:30:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA21927; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:12:19 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA21660; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:10:34 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (downinit@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA22687 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:11:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 01:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: Ole Andre Schistad cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: VMM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 1995, Ole Andre Schistad wrote: > If you can run VMM , then by all means .. SWAP TO A PARTITION. Swapping > to file is the best way to slow down any system, as every time a ram page > is swapped in or out , the OS has to go through miles and miles of linked > lists just to access the swap file. Be prepared that your renders will be > much slower when the system starts swapping , and a good advice would be not > to load VMM unless you're certain that you'll need the added memory ; VMM > uses quite a lot of RAM on its own for buffers and program code. Although I haven't run any comparison tests, I've used VMM with a PSEUDO-PARTITION swap file very successfully. LW, ADPro and even Opalpaint don't slow down noticeably at all. Of course, with LW every second counts, but I haven't had to use it for anything besides print resolution 8.5x11 images. LW just shuttles the huge frame buffer onto the HD and doesn't access the VMem again until the end of a segment. When it takes 36 hours to render a frame, what's a couple extra minutes? Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 06:03:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA04852; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:04:29 -0700 Received: from news.iii.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA04306; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:01:57 -0700 Received: from bahianet.UUCP (uubahia@localhost) by news.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) with UUCP id WAA28418 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:22:30 -0400 Received: by bahianet.com (MailGate 0.23 mg@ear.anpe.br) Wed, 03 May 1995 11:20:15 Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 11:14:00 From: David Roth Message-ID: <2fa7abf12fa7abf1@bahianet.com> Organization: BahiaNet Echomail Network Organization Reply-To: David Roth To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! X-Mailer: MailGate 0.23+ Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk -=> On 03 May 95 7:42:, davewarner@globalone.net wrote: <=- dn> Uh HUH! So, the common denominator here is the Amiga 3000...I'm dn> experiencing this problem only on my A3000 w/Warp Engine running dn> LightWave 3.5 Standalone. If I remember correctly, this is about rendering problems (speckles or something). Well I have an Amiga 3000 with Toaster 2000 and LW 3.5 and have never experienced any problems what so ever. I don't have a Warp Engine though, Mine is a Progresive Mercury (UGH....ARRRGH....BLAH) 040 at 33MHz. LightWave runs fine in copyback mode for me. I've had this setup for about 3 years and It's been stable and reliable since day 1. David. --- +----------------------------+-----------------------------------+ --- | David Roth | E-mail: david.roth@bahianet.com | --- | VideoGraphics | Voice/Fax/Data: 55-71-336-5871 | --- | Tecnologia em Multimidia | Salvador, Bahia, Brazil | --- +----------------------------+-----------------------------------+ * AmyBW v2.11 * --- Blue Wave/RA From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 06:01:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA04855; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:04:33 -0700 Received: from news.iii.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA04294; Wed, 3 May 1995 20:01:55 -0700 Received: from bahianet.UUCP (uubahia@localhost) by news.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) with UUCP id WAA28420 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:22:33 -0400 Received: by bahianet.com (MailGate 0.23 mg@ear.anpe.br) Wed, 03 May 1995 11:20:31 Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 11:14:00 From: David Roth Message-ID: <2fa7abf32fa7abf3@bahianet.com> Organization: BahiaNet Echomail Network Organization Reply-To: David Roth To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Cylinderical image maps seam angle? X-Mailer: MailGate 0.23+ Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk -=> On 03 May 95 7:43:, bss104@clss1.bangor.ac.uk wrote: <=- bu> Does anyone know how I can alter the seam angle on a cylinderical image bu> map? I'm building a circular room with an entrance and exit that are bu> just off center and I need to find a way of shifting my image map round bu> a few degrees so that the seam is above either the entrance or exit. bu> Anyone any ideas. Email me direct if its a really easy answer. You could use the Roll operator in ADPro to shift the seam an amount of pixels and make it match with where it should be in relation with your surface. David. --- +----------------------------+-----------------------------------+ --- | David Roth | E-mail: david.roth@bahianet.com | --- | VideoGraphics | Voice/Fax/Data: 55-71-336-5871 | --- | Tecnologia em Multimidia | Salvador, Bahia, Brazil | --- +----------------------------+-----------------------------------+ * AmyBW v2.11 * --- Blue Wave/RA From owner-lightwave-l Wed May 3 21:02:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA29436; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:41:46 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA29384; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:41:25 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (downinit@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA19767 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:41:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: LW 4.0 PR Intel Install Weirdness Apologies Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk There I went, spewing off at the mouth again. Yup, I'm a dork. I left the silly disk in the silly floppy drive and the silly architecture didn't tell the silly user what was going on. My .sig tells the whole story... Sorry for the bandwidth, the first point about 16bit content still stands, has that happened to anyone else? Now that it's up and running I can tell you that Screen Redraws in Modeler on my P90 PCI Stealth 2MB in 1280x1024 seem to be about twice as fast as my 2000 040/35 in 640x480, very cool. Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 06:55:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA15339; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:25:47 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA14730; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:41 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA27642 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:38 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id XAA28920 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:37 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon Lines: 27 Date: Wed, 3 May 95 23:22:37 PDT Message-ID: <9505032322.1.28875@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >A few months back, I mentioned I would probably move both the Lightwave and >Video Toaster mailing lists to my primary internet provider. As it turns >out, it would cost me $20 per month to run the mailing lists with digests >there. Though with killing off my Netcom account, I'd have that money but >my intentions were to find a home for the mailing lists with digest >capabilities but also save me some money. :) "Hey everybody, let's put on a show!" Actually, let's get NewTek to cough up $40 a month to support something that is in their best interests. Stuart, Allen, John, Jim Plant, could you maybe lean on Tim Jenison (sic) and make him see that supporting Daniel is a Good Thing? >-- >Daniel J. McCoy | djmccoy@primenet.com or netcom.com and dan@acti.com > *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 06:54:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA15334; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:25:45 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA14774; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:51 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA27647 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:46 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id XAA28923 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:22:45 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Not another strange screen display problem! Lines: 22 Date: Wed, 3 May 95 23:22:45 PDT Message-ID: <9505032322.2.28875@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Ummm... not this one... :) > >But seriously...My question is for the LW world at large. I need a list >of LW animation houses, preferably with 5 or more animator/modelers. >Character animation experience is quite neccessary. Hmmmmm, prolly some LW animators have character experience, and I'm sure they'll respond, but LW isn't the best suited software to create character animations. AFAIK, that pretty much goes to Animation: Master hands down. Ohhhh, reread it.....farming out. Well, there's still some useful info here, I'll post it anyway. *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 08:08:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA00919; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:15:55 -0700 Received: by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA09054; Wed, 3 May 1995 21:42:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:42:23 -0700 From: shf (Stuart Ferguson) Message-Id: <199505040442.VAA09054@netcom3.netcom.com> To: DanEsmond@aol.com, videoman@netcom.com Subject: Re: Retarded Preview Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk re: preview playback speed I think the embarassing truth about preview playback in the pre- release is that it is not timed at all. Layout just throws the frames up at some relatively constant rate, perhaps as fast as it can. This will obviously be made correct in the final. Of course, if you run into virtual memory your playback will slow down a lot. - Stuart From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 08:59:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA01157; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:19:00 -0700 Received: from sentry.foxboro.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA06766; Thu, 4 May 1995 06:18:15 -0700 Received: by sentry.foxboro.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26799; Thu, 4 May 95 09:18:27 -0400 Received: by foxvax14.local (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17859; Thu, 4 May 95 09:14:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 May 1995 09:19:08 From: rboyd@foxboro.com (Robert Boyd) To: 02-May-1995 1356 Subject: Re: upgrade cutoff Cc: lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com, Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9505021758.AA03001@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Date: Tue, 2 May 95 10:58:37 PDT >From: 02-May-1995 1356 >To: lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com >Subject: upgrade cutoff > My Lightwave Dealer John Sauter(System Eyes Computer Store) called me to > tell me the cutoff date for upgrading 3.5 SA was June 30th. He got this > from his rep at NewTek. To bad looks like I will go with the PC version but > will have to run 3.5 until I get a PC, an that could be many months. > bill I hope this isn't true, I sent my registration card in about 3 or 4 months ago and I have yet to hear from NewTek about an upgrade!! Rob From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 08:38:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA04036; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:27:54 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA03957; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:27:28 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (downinit@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA24185 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:28:11 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 01:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: PShop, Painter, AnimatorStudio under NT? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen the new Autodesk 2D animation and effects package? Is it shipping? Have I got the name right? Is it Win32s? How about Photoshop3.0 and Painter3, do these programs work with NT 3.50 Build 807? There was mention earlier of an AlphaNT compatible software list, how about an IntelNT (in)compatible software list? LW Content: Thanks Allen and Stuart, for demonstrating that complex software can be written for Windows that runs from >one< executable without two dozen (or two hundred) support files spread all over the system disk. Is it just a different mind-set? How much can you attribute to years of Amiga programming? Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 11:01:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA15190; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:44:53 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA15174; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:44:49 -0700 From: FXVET@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA161025896; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:44:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 12:44:56 -0400 Message-Id: <950504124455_106657667@aol.com> To: videoman@netcom.com, DanEsmond@aol.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Retarded Preview Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk OK, let me describe my problem, hopefully someone will have an idea how to resolve it. My system-- Dell P90 32 MB RAM #9 128-bit graphics card Windows NT Workstation Problem-- No matter what resolution or number of colors I try, my preview will play at no more than 15 frames per second. The card is supposed to be one of the fastest available, so I would guess that it is a software or driver problem. Anyone have any ideas? From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 10:04:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA01197; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:19:54 -0700 Received: from UTKVX1.UTK.EDU by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA16291; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:01:59 -0700 Received: from utkvx.utk.edu by utkvx.utk.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #9964) id <01HQ3NLY8YEK8Y4X9S@utkvx.utk.edu>; Thu, 04 May 1995 10:01:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 04 May 1995 10:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Prosise Subject: Help PLEASE. Networking PC and Amiga To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Message-id: <01HQ3NLY8YEM8Y4X9S@utkvx.utk.edu> X-VMS-To: UTK_IPS:HUB:VMS:UTKVX:WPGATE:IN%"lightwave-l@netcom.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I just recieved my work copy of the pre release lightwave 4.0 for the PC. My P100 with 32 megs of ram and a Gig HD should be here any day. In anticipation of moving rendered frames from the PC to one of 2 toasters for out put to videotape, we have bugun a series of experiments with networking the Amigas with a PC whit ablolutely no luck. Each amiga has a CEI A 4066 ethernet card and we use Enlan DFS software and between the 2 amigas it is great and easy to use. when trying to use the TCP IP demp software freely available to talk to the PC we cant seem to make a connection. I'm lucky in that I have 2 very Knowledgable broadcast engineers helping me on this but it has us all stumped. According to all the Documentation we have read we should be talking, but, no cigar. The people from ENLAN say that in 8 to 12 weeks they will have a product to do this easily but I have to be able to produce right away in order to justify the purchase. If anyone could email me any information, in as much detail as possible, software, hardware, setups or whatever it could be helpful. I know Im not the only one doing this so pleas Inundate me with information. Also, Ive been running my personal copy of 4.0 on my P90 with 16 megs of ram and windows 3.11 at home for about a week and its great. I cant wait for the real release. Im sure it will be full of macros, displacement mapping, and AVI support (wishfull thinking?) Brad Prosise Post Production Supv. University of TN Center for Telecommunications and Video From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 13:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA22175; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:53:28 -0700 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA22097; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:53:00 -0700 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA00189 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:52:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 May 95 15:52 BST-1 From: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Fenton) Subject: Re: LW overseas upgrade To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Reply-To: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: <199505031821.LAA16995@mail4.netcom.com> Roberto Naldi wrote: >My question is: after sending the registration card I expected some feedback >from NewTek, but nothing happens; now, with LW 4.0 at hand how can I get >the upgrade? As a reg. user I think to have the right to a competitive one, You can get an upgrade to v4 directly from NewTek for $150. It's worth every effort to call them (it's not that expensive to call!) and place your order with them. You won't get an upgrade as cheap as that anywhere else! Best do it before the end of June. Gary F. From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 13:15:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA13205; Thu, 4 May 1995 06:51:28 -0700 Received: from lemur.magnet.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA12963; Thu, 4 May 1995 06:50:25 -0700 Received: from pdavies.MAIN (annexmacpc208.magnet.com [199.125.237.208]) by lemur.magnet.com (8.6.10/MAGNET) with SMTP id JAA13284 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:50:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 09:50:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199505041350.JAA13284@lemur.magnet.com> X-Sender: pdavies@magnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: pdavies@magnet.com (Paul A. Davies) Subject: Re: Copy Protection X-Mailer: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >I'm looking at PC versions of Imagine, Lightwave and Animation Master. >Do any of these have some form of copy protection? Lightwave is the only one of the three that I know uses a dongle. >... If I had 2 or more programs >would I have to have a dongle on top of a dongle on top of a dongle ... ? >Will this work ? Yes but I would guess it gets pretty hairy with more than three dongles. >... All they require is that the >CD be in the drive. They then just check for the presence of the CD in the >drive before they will start. I dont find this form of copy protction too >intrusive and must be much cheaper than a dongle. >What do others think? That could be a problem if you need to load models or images from some other disk. Paul Davies Concept Artist Magnet Studios From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 14:33:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA17719; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:39:45 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA17678; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:39:35 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00844 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:40:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 16:40:16 -0400 Subject: Re: LW overseas upgrade To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <199505031821.LAA16995@mail4.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, Roberto Naldi wrote: > My question is: after sending the registration card I expected some feedback > from NewTek, but nothing happens; now, with LW 4.0 at hand how can I get > the upgrade? As a reg. user I think to have the right to a competitive one, > ....or not? LightWave 4.0 for the Amiga should be shipping this month...as far as I know, nobody has received any notices directly from NewTek about ugrading LW 3.5 Standalane...all news has been spread by word of mouth (or text). You should contact NewTek directly about upgrading your copy of LW 3.5... their number, for people outside the USA, is: 1-913-228-8000 or you can hit their Internet sites at: HTTP://WWW.NEWTEK.COM (WWW site) or: FTP.NEWTEK.COM (anonymous FTP site) Cost of upgrading LightWave 3.5 Standalone to LightWave 4.0 for ANY platform is $149 (+shipping?). Deadline for upgrading LightWave 3.5 SA to LightWave 4.0 is June 30, 1995 -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 14:47:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA05270; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:20:45 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.cognos.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA25476; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:04:48 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gatekeeper.cognos.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12564; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:56:14 -0400 Received: from unknown(142.80.28.21) by gatekeeper.cognos.com via smap (V1.3) id sma012562; Thu May 4 15:56:11 1995 Received: from pilot by Cognos.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02554; Thu, 4 May 95 15:56:58 EDT Received: by pilot (4.1) id AA14617; Thu, 4 May 95 15:56:55 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:56:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Currie Subject: Re: LW Upgrade -- an Why Are Macs Slow? To: Joe Angell Cc: Neil Richmond , lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, Joe Angell wrote: > Why is it that Macs can't emulate even THEMSELVES (PowerPC running > non-native) at a reasonable speed (68030-ish, I think), but an 040 33MHz Because the PowerPC chip has to emulate a *TOTALLY DIFFERENT* chip. That takes alot of work. > Amiga can run Mac or PC software FASTER than an equivilent Mac or PC (040 > 40MHz Mac/486DX2 PC, using an EMPLANT)?!? Even SHAREWARE, software ONLY > Shapeshifter claims the speed of an equivilently equiped Mac. Emplant and SS are as fast as they are because THEY ARE NOT EMULATING THE PROCESSOR, only the OS. Nobody (except JD) has "proven" that the Amiga can emulate a PC faster than the PC runs native. > Why won't the DOS card work on the Mac? I want to get an Emplant and a What do you mean? There's at least a few different DOS cards for the Mac. > Picasso II simply to run PhototShop (and probobly Fractal Design Painter). > It it some strange IBM addressing thing, or is the Mac just wierd? I'm not sure what you're talking about at all... | Think for yourself... then Decide... |----------------------------- | Ignorance breeds Arrogance... | curriek@cognos.com | A4K/WE40/40/NetBSD/Emplant |Silicon Valley NORTH, Canada From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 15:11:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA04493; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:16:18 -0700 Received: from datasrv.co.il by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA06472; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:28:56 -0700 Received: by datasrv.co.il id AA12883 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for LightWave Mailing List ); Thu, 4 May 1995 18:28:32 +0300 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:28:28 +0300 (IDT) From: Zapa Digital Art Subject: Render times To: LightWave Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk All :) I don't have the 'official' table, but I rendered the texture examples scene on a P100, 16MB RAM, win 3.1. Render settings were 752x576, Low AA, adaptive sampling 8, all trace effects on... 4 minutes 23 seconds. Same settings on an A4000/040/40mhz, 52MB RAM... 14 minutes flat. shucks. Nir Hermoni, Israel zapa@datasrv.co.il From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 15:03:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA22593; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:36:51 -0700 Received: from Norway.EU.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA22194; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:34:23 -0700 Received: by Norway.EU.net with UUCP id AA19974 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/EUnet/NO for lightwave-l@netcom.com); Thu, 4 May 1995 16:34:52 +0200 Received: by scala.no; Thu, 04 May 95 16:33:06 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 04 May 95 16:33:06 From: Gunnar Norum To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Donations for DJ McCoy anyone? X-Mailer: UGate [Ver. 2.05] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On 3 May, 1995, David Warner wrote: >I think enough people here would be willing >to donate and support a GREAT LightWave resource! I agree. I certainly had a lot of questions answered by just 'lurking' on the list. Thanks to everybody. Best regards, ___________________________ |Gunnar Norum |Scala Computer Television |gunnar.norum@scala.no |__________________________ From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 15:10:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA06372; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:03:15 -0700 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA06304; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:02:39 -0700 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA12608 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:02:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 May 95 17:02 BST-1 From: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Fenton) Subject: Get NewTek to pay for mailing list To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Reply-To: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Jeric@cup.portal.com wrote: >Actually, let's get NewTek to cough up $40 a month to support something >that is in their best interests. Stuart, Allen, John, Jim Plant, >could you maybe lean on Tim Jenison (sic) and make him see that >supporting Daniel is a Good Thing? I agree. Just think how much time and money NewTek are saved when people come to this mailing list for technical help instead of calling NewTek. Surely this mailing list saves them money? And we promote LW too! Gary F. From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 16:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA04146; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:21 -0700 Received: from sol by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA04026; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:09:58 -0700 Received: by sol (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17855; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:08:59 +0600 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:08:59 +0600 (GMT) From: Fernando Polini To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Flyer-NT-PC Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 145 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I've heard rumors that Newtek is working on a NT or PC version of the Flyer. Does anybody knows anything about it ? Answers welcome ! R.Nassar From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 18:42:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA07346; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:53:24 -0700 Received: from uu2.psi.com by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA07333; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:53:16 -0700 Received: by uu2.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA05561 for ; Thu, 4 May 95 19:42:39 -0400 Received: from costamesa by icc_lab.bozell.com (NX5.67e/BJKEgate.931116) with SMTP id AA12175; Thu, 4 May 95 18:32:37 -0500 Received: from thrash by costamesa (NX5.67d/3.0M_BJKE_931108CB) id AA17248; Thu, 4 May 95 16:37:15 -0700 Message-Id: <9505042337.AA17248@costamesa> Received: by thrash (NX5.67e/NX3.0X_BJKE_931108CB) id AA00763; Thu, 4 May 95 16:37:22 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2.RR) From: Rob McNaughton Date: Thu, 4 May 95 16:37:20 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Lightwave on OS/2 Warp? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried Lightwave 4.0 on OS/2 Warp? Does is work? Is it multitasking well with paint programs at the same time? And is it worth my money? If OS/2 works well with Lightwave, How fast is it compared to Windows NT and Win32? The reason I ask is because I hate Windows so much. If there is any alternative to the memory consuming NT or the dogidly slow Win32 I would be very intrested. I currently have a fleet of Pentiums with 24 megs of RAM (to little for good stuff with Windows NT.) I am only guessing right now because my Lightwave is still on order. Thanks in advance if anyone can answer. Rob McNaughton the A/V guy Bozell/SMS Advertising From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 20:37:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA03420; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:34:08 -0700 Received: by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA03409; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:34:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon cc: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > Maybe you should get yourself a P.O. box and start including the address > in your monthly notes here...I think enough people here would be willing > to donate and support a GREAT LightWave resource! Agreed! JG From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 22:50:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA04015; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:42:31 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA03939; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:42:02 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (downinit@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA24564 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:42:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:36:26 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help PLEASE. Networking PC and Amiga Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Here's the real poopoo on Interworks' new package. I am not affiliated with Iworks. I'm impressed by Enlan2 and think this product could be very cool, and probably the answer to my particular Amiga-PC-Mac-internet needs! Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 4 May 95 16:47:31 PST From: Allen P. Brooks To: downinit@teleport.com Subject: Re: Help PLEASE. Networking PC and Amiga Our software is a full professional implimentation of TCP/IP for the Amiga and will support all systems with 802.3 compliant TCP/IP network protocol stacks. This includes UNIX, SGI, MAC, PC's and Amigas, to name a few. Here is some PRELIMINARY INFORMATION you can look at: From: sales-info@iworks.com (Sales Information Automated Responder) Subject: I-Net 225 TCP/IP Software I-Net 225 - Current Version: 1.0 ************************************ I-Net 225 is a professional, SANA-II compliant, TCP/IP networking software package for the Amiga. TCP/IP is an internationally accepted network protocol which exists on virtually all computer platforms. This gives different systems a common means by which to exchange data. Finally the Amiga can communicate with everyone else! (i.e. Mac, PC, SGI, WindowsNT etc.) Utilities which were written for AS225R2, should be fully compatible with I-Net 225. There are quite a number of these utilities available on BBS's and FTP sites around the world. FEATURES -------- I-Net 225 comes with a full host of clients and servers allowing the Amiga to not only connect with remote hosts, but also be a host to other systems on the network. I-Net 225 is SANA-II compliant, allowing it to operate concurrently with any other SANA-II compliant networking package, like ENLAN-DFS. CLIENTS ------- arp, chmod, finger, ftp, host, ifconfig, last, login, lpr, ls, netstat, nfsc, nfsmgr, passwd, ping, rcp, rsh, rlogin, showmount, telnet, traceroute, whois SERVERS ------- fingerd, ftpd, inetd, lpd, portmapd, rshd, syslogd, telnetd, timed, wprintd INTERNET UTILITIES ------------------ I-Net 225 also comes with a full set of Internet utilities: GMail - an intuition based mail reader GRN - a news reader SMTP & SMTPd - mail protocol and daemon NFS - NETWORK FILE SYSTEMS SUPPORT ---------------------------------- I-Net 225 comes with NFS Client support, allowing the Amiga to `mount' remote systems' devices, and have them appear as local resources. PRICING ------- I-Net 225 comes with a 5 node license. Additional licenses avaiable to support over 50,000 systems! 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Contact Interworks for details. ********************************************************************** * * * Interworks * * Professional Network Solutions * * * * 43191 Camino Casillas * * Temecula, CA 92592-3714 * * * * Voice: (909) 699-8120 * * FAX: (909) 699-8279 * * * * EMail Addresses: * * * * info@iworks.com - General Interworks information * * tnet.info@iworks.com - T-Net Software Info * * enlan.info@iworks.com - ENLAN-DFS Network Info * * inet225.info@iworks.com - I-Net 225 TCP/IP Info * * icard.info@iworks.com - I-Card PCMCIA Ethernet Info * * hydra.info@iworks.com - Hydra Systems Ethernet Info * * * * tnet.support@iworks.com - T-Net Render Farm Tech Support * * enlan.support@iworks.com - ENLAN-DFS Tech Support * * inet.support@iworks.com - I-Net 225 TCP/IP Tech Support * * icard.support@iworks.com - I-Card PCMCIA Card Tech Support * * hydra.support@iworks.com - Hydra Systems Ethernet Tech Support * * * * orders@iworks.com - Place Product Orders * * * * abrooks@iworks.com - Allen Brooks - President * * * * FTP: ftp.iworks.com - anonymous access - cd to pub/iworks * * * ********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 23:42:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA05292; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:50:22 -0700 Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA05174; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:49:33 -0700 Received: from by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA12621; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:49:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:49:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199505050249.TAA12621@ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: fwtep@ix.netcom.com (Fred Tepper) Subject: Re: Copy Protection To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: >>... All they require is that the >>CD be in the drive. They then just check for the presence of the CD in the >>drive before they will start. I dont find this form of copy protction too >>intrusive and must be much cheaper than a dongle. >>What do others think? > >That could be a problem if you need to load models or images from some other >disk. > >Paul Davies >Concept Artist >Magnet Studios > > Paul, No, the idea would be that you only need the CD in when you start the program. After that you could take it out and put in whatever CD you want. -=Fred=- From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 23:42:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA07040; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:05:46 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA06556; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:03:15 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA00973; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:03:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:03:12 -0400 Subject: LightWave Interface color changes?? To: LightWave Mail List cc: Allen D Hastings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Okay, here's something I've requested from Allen a number of times already, but since I now know of at least 3 people who are legally blind and using LightWave, I figured it would be a good time to repeat myself. I desperately need the ability to customize all the screen colors on the LightWave interface. My current level of eyesight makes it very difficult for me to see anything except high contrast colors...since MOST of the software I use on the Amiga can be altered with Preferences, it's not a problem, because I've changed all screen colors to be white text on a black background. (or other high contrast screen colors) Unfortunately, the program I use the most, LightWave, has this "artsy" dark grey/light grey on grey color scheme and it's a real BITCH for me to use this program! I've been struggling with LW's colors for more than 3 years now and I'd really like to know if there are any plans to offer a more configurable interface in the 4.0 or greater version?? If not, can someone PLEASE tell me if there is any way I can alter the current screen colors in LightWave...I can live with the small text, but I "lose" my pointer about a hundred times a day and I won't even tell you how close I have to sit to the monitor to read LW's file requester screens. (can you say "brain cancer"?) Allen! >HELP!!< Please?! Thank you for your time...we now return to our original program, already in progress.... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 23:41:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA06250; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:00:56 -0700 Received: from larry.infi.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA05821; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:58:22 -0700 Received: from [204.117.157.207] by larry.infi.net with SMTP (8.6.12/Server1.12) id QAA10371; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:57:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 16:57:34 -0400 X-Sender: austin@mailhost.nr.infi.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: austin@infi.net (John-Mark Austin) Subject: Roller Coaster in search of physics Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >You may be thinking of a past issue of VTU (Feb?). The article had to do with >accident recreation and offered formulas for calculating acceleration and junk >like that. Hope this helps and please keep hands and arms inside the car at >all times! Hmm. Actually I hadn't thought of that. Geoffrey Williams pointed us towards the program Franzoom but we can't seem to locate it. (The VTU issue in question was Oct '94.) Can anyone direct us to this thing or maybe drop me a copy? Meanwhile, I will look for that Feb. article. Thanks. ---------------- John-Mark Austin Audio Graphics 6008-B High Point Road Greensboro, NC 27407 'God is dead' - Neitzche 'Neitzche is dead' - GOD From owner-lightwave-l Thu May 4 23:55:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA19641; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:36:25 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA19381; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:34:52 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (downinit@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA29679 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:35:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 12:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: DMetcalfe To: lightwave-l@netcom.com cc: Brad Prosise , brandonb@teleport.com, abrooks@iworks.com Subject: Re: Help PLEASE. Networking PC and Amiga In-Reply-To: <01HQ3NLY8YEM8Y4X9S@utkvx.utk.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Brad, Your mention of an upcoming product from Interworks got me on the phone to them right away. The product is called Inet225, and works right now for Amiga and NT. It's being used now "at lots of sites around the world". You can buy it for an "un-discounted" price of $349. The release in 2 months will support Win3.1(Win32s) and cost less. It's more now because of "the increased tech support required". I didn't get details but Allen said it's more than just PC<->Amiga. Perhaps the full release will include Unix and Mac? Oh... PleasePleasePlease. Allen can be reached at abrooks@iworks.com or (909) 699 8120. Who's using it? Do >any< of the big-time LW beta sites still use Amigas? Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 01:17:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA20836; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:35:52 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA20369; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:33:51 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08182; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:34:14 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04236; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:35:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:21:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: David Roth Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <2fa7abf12fa7abf1@bahianet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, David Roth wrote: > -=> On 03 May 95 7:42:, davewarner@globalone.net wrote: <=- > > dn> Uh HUH! So, the common denominator here is the Amiga 3000...I'm > dn> experiencing this problem only on my A3000 w/Warp Engine running > dn> LightWave 3.5 Standalone. > > If I remember correctly, this is about rendering problems (speckles or > something). Well I have an Amiga 3000 with Toaster 2000 and LW 3.5 and have > never experienced any problems what so ever. I don't have a Warp Engine > though, Mine is a Progresive Mercury (UGH....ARRRGH....BLAH) 040 at 33MHz. > LightWave runs fine in copyback mode for me. I've had this setup for about 3 > years and It's been stable and reliable since day 1. > Just to joing in, I have a G-Force 040 33MHz (A2000) with copyback on, and it's fine and dandy -- according to SysInfo, I looses about 25% of my speed by turning it off... Point is, LW works fin with Copyback for me... AND for all you people with A2000's out there... I called RCS after hearing that they'll be making an 060 card for the A2000. They said they'll certainly be doing it (I don't know who I talked to, but I get the feeling it was someone who knew a lot about the company) since there are a LOT of A2000s out thereand they almost never fail like 4000s/3000s (he said). He also said there was some sort of problem getting a true 060 to work with the A2000... Something about 68000/68010 instructions work, but anything above fails. He also said that once Motorolla releases it's Cold Fire (I think that's the name) chip, that it'll be used for an A2000 card. The Cold Fire seems to work with all instruction sets, and is 2x 040 speed. RCS's # is Phone: 514-990-5477 <- NEW NUMBER FAX 514-926-3131. Oh, and this little tidbit from AmyNews Issue 17/April 1995: - There are a lot of falsk rumoures around about how fast a Pentium can render a pictures using LightWave. A Motorola 68060/50 MHZ is 20% to 30% faster than an Intel Pentium 90 MHZ. At the latest CeBIT they demonstrated it. An Amiga equipped with a Cyberstorm 68060/50 MHZ run LightWave faster (55 sec for the test frame) than the Pentium 90MHZ (70 secs for the same frame). Imagine Amiga version 3.2 was also 30% faster on the 68060/50 MHZ Amiga compare to imagine running on an IBM PC clone equipped with an Intel Pentium 90 MHZ. It also says that 50 MHz cards do about 85 MIPS, and 80 MHz cards do around 130 MIPS! (CyberStorm 060s, but they're only for 3000/4000 machines) So I'll just be sitting back, waiting for those 060 cards... (BTW I don't know if that's Windoze 3.11 or Windoze NT, which, of cource, makes a BIG difference) And about that 750000-poly rendering DSP card... AmyNews has this... - Advanced Systems & Software, AS&S, Germany, the maker of CyberVision and CyberStorm 68060 for the Amiga is currently developing 2-GO!, an all new DSP-Board for the Amiga. The Zorro-III DSP Board allows you to greatly speed up your Amiga. MPEG/ JPEG coding and decoding is possible in real time. The 2-GO! processors are freely programmable, so one could use it as a render engine, port OpenGL to it, do audio processing etc. The hardware consists of a very fast Zorro-III interface (up to 34MB/sec) , 64 bit DSP memory, a 64bit port to the CyberVision64 graphics board and audio/video in & output. The board is powered by a DSP (max. 2 billion instructions/sec), a master RISC CPU (50 MIPS) and a floating point unit (100 MIPS). This is enough number crunching power for MPEG/JPEG de-/encoding, or for rendering 750.000 gourard shaded polygons/sec to the Cybervision. The software is planned to include a MPEG/JPEG tool, interfaces to 3D renderes and image processors and libraries for you project developement. The 2-GO! should be released during the second half of 1995, at a projected price of $2600 US. Phase 5 digital products (used to be Advanced Systems & Software, AS&S) Homburger Landstrasse 412 60433 Frankfurt am Main Germany Phone: +49 (69) 5488130 Fax: +49 (69) 5481845 That's about it... Sorry if I went a bit off topic... -- Joe From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 04:17:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA02894; Fri, 5 May 1995 03:14:32 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA02888; Fri, 5 May 1995 03:14:27 -0700 Received: from enet-gw.pa.dec.com by inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com (5.65/24Feb95) id AA18028; Fri, 5 May 95 03:12:22 -0700 Received: from marbls.enet by enet-gw.pa.dec.com (5.65/09May94) id AA19014; Fri, 5 May 95 03:09:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9505051009.AA19014@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Received: from marbls.enet; by decwrl.enet; Fri, 5 May 95 03:09:02 PDT Date: Fri, 5 May 95 03:09:02 PDT From: 05-May-1995 0605 To: "fwtep@ix.netcom.com"@24580.enet.dec.com Cc: lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com Apparently-To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Copy Protection Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > No, the idea would be that you only need the CD in when you start the >program. After that you could take it out and put in whatever CD you want. Well with the cost of CD recorders less than $2000.00 and blanks at 4 cents a meg($29.00) this is not a real deterant to the professional pirate. For a small investment(that could also be used to build interactive games ect) one could crank out CD of Lightwave for $30.00 apiece. The price on these units will only be going down in the future. So while it is a nice thought it is not practicle at this point in time and will be less so as time passes. bill From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 04:04:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA17545; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:14:11 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA17228; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:12:57 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA00786 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:12:58 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id XAA28855 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:12:58 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon Lines: 20 Date: Thu, 4 May 95 23:12:57 PDT Message-ID: <9505042312.2.28696@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk D.Warner wrote: > >When the floodgates open wide and the IBM Wavers start showing up, the >bandwidth is certainly going to increase... You left out, "...and the signal to noise ratio plummet." :^/ > -David Warner > Event Horizon Graphics > *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 04:59:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA27942; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:11:47 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA27812; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:11:06 -0700 From: Jeric@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA05536 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:11:06 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id AAA29485 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:11:05 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Copy Protection Lines: 30 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:04 PDT Message-ID: <9505050011.1.29293@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >>... All they require is that the >>CD be in the drive. They then just check for the presence of the CD in the >>drive before they will start. I dont find this form of copy protction too >>intrusive and must be much cheaper than a dongle. >>What do others think? > >That could be a problem if you need to load models or images from some other >disk. Hmmmmm, that strikes me as only a slight problem--one could always load the objects / images onto the system drives, which I'd prolly do anyway. IMneverHO, a "CD-Dongle" is the least intrusive way to donglize. Also saves the cost of a switchbox. On the down side, EVERY pc has a parallel port, not all have a CD drive. Is the dongle the same across all platforms? Anyway, this is all pretty moot, eh? > >Paul Davies *********************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * \\\\\\ Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * \\\\\\ Or else! | * *********************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 08:11:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA07404; Fri, 5 May 1995 07:21:02 -0700 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA19464; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:55:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:55:02 -0700 From: vance (Vance Gloster) Message-Id: <199505042155.OAA19464@netcom9.netcom.com> To: animaster-l@netcom.com CC: imagine@email.sp.paramax.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com, animaster-l@netcom.com In-reply-to: <9505032315.AA22547@epa.epa.ericsson.se> (epajjy@epa.ericsson.se) Subject: Re: Copy Protection Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'm looking at PC versions of Imagine, Lightwave and Animation Master. Do any of these have some form of copy protection? I've seen the word dongle mentioned in some mail. If I had 2 or more programs would I have to have a dongle on top of a dongle on top of a dongle ... ? Will this work ? If there must (but preferably not) be some form of copy protection why not try the method used by some PC-CD ROM games. All they require is that the CD be in the drive. They then just check for the presence of the CD in the drive before they will start. I dont find this form of copy protction too intrusive and must be much cheaper than a dongle. What do others think? Animation Master does use a dongle. I do not use multiple dongles myself, but a friend of mine does with no problems. I doubt that you could find anyone who likes the dongle, but the CD-ROM solution has its own set of problems. When I work with A:M I frequently load bitmapped textures from CDs (I use the Pixar and Autodesk texture libraries) and I would find needing to exit or reload the A:M CD even more intrusive. Also, not all users of A:M have CD-ROM drives at this point. But I support your effort to find a viable alternative to the dongle! -Vance Gloster vance@netcom.com From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 08:35:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA07432; Fri, 5 May 1995 07:21:12 -0700 Received: from mail.torfree.net by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA19572; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:37:10 -0700 Received: from queen.torfree.net by mail.torfree.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s79UR-000LW9C; Thu, 4 May 95 18:35 EDT Received: by queen.torfree.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s79UQ-0006zfC; Thu, 4 May 95 18:35 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:35:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bowie Subject: Re: upgrade cutoff To: Robert Boyd cc: 02-May-1995 1356 , lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com, lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 1995, Robert Boyd wrote: > >Date: Tue, 2 May 95 10:58:37 PDT > >From: 02-May-1995 1356 > >To: lightwave@marbls.enet.dec.com > >Subject: upgrade cutoff > > > My Lightwave Dealer John Sauter(System Eyes Computer Store) called me to > > tell me the cutoff date for upgrading 3.5 SA was June 30th. He got this > > from his rep at NewTek. To bad looks like I will go with the PC version but > > will have to run 3.5 until I get a PC, an that could be many months. > > Could someone kindly post the current NewTek phone/fax numbers so those of us who've been waiting (duhhh) for NewTek to inform us about our upgrade options can get off our keesters? .............................................................. * Steve Bowie |"Commodore is dead - * * ad636@torfree.net | long live the Amiga!!!" * * North York, Ontario, Canada | SPECTRAN * .............................................................. From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 08:21:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA21802; Fri, 5 May 1995 01:49:11 -0700 Received: from hermes.rdrop.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA21623; Fri, 5 May 1995 01:47:34 -0700 Received: from nesbbx.UUCP by hermes.rdrop.com with UUCP (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s7J2j-000FIyC; Fri, 5 May 95 01:47 PDT Received: by nesbbx.rain.COM (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <5evy@nesbbx.rain.COM>; Thu, 4 May 95 21:39:08 PST Date: Thu, 4 May 95 21:39:08 PST Message-Id: <9505050539.5evy@nesbbx.rain.COM> X-Mailer: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) From: Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM (Thomas Healy) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Quick LW Questions Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Couple of quick questions: Is there a way to set Layout's preferences to start up with certian features engaged? Like Show safe areas? I tried messing with the prefs file, but I didn't have any luck. Is there a quick (Key-shortcut) way to get modelers four views centered again? Like what happens when you hit new, but without loosing the data?? Thanks, Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: ** LIVE CONCERTS FOR TRADE ** Thealy@nesbbx.rain.com REM, U2, PEARL JAM, THE DOORS + MANY MORE send e-mail if interested, your list gets mine "Before I ever learned how to talk, I forgot what to say" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 08:46:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id CAA00154; Fri, 5 May 1995 02:54:16 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id CAA29984; Fri, 5 May 1995 02:53:56 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA04365 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 05:54:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:54:41 -0400 Subject: LightWave 4.0 for Mips? To: LightWave Mail List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'm sure this has been answered a million times already, but I'm seriously considering the purchase of one of the Raptor 2 machines for sale on the LightWave newsgroup and I can't remember if LightWave 4.0 has a Mips version coming out or not?? Most likely, yes? Does anyone else out there own a Raptor 2 machine or better? The gentleman selling it says it will run most Windows application for the PC in addition to WindowsNT stuff...is this correct? I was under the impression that I would have to find software written specifically for the Mips processor. Any additional info anyone could give on the Raptor 2 or DeskStations' Tyne workstation would be greatly appreciated! -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 10:25:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA07614; Fri, 5 May 1995 07:23:09 -0700 Received: from phoenix.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA14160; Thu, 4 May 1995 22:13:33 -0700 Received: from jbctn.phoenix.net (dial82.phoenix.net [199.3.234.124]) by phoenix.net (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA05709; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:07:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 00:02:54 PDT From: John Bourg Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: davewarner@globalone.net Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com X-Mailer: Chameleon ARM_55, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 1995 19:51:53 -0400 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > * S N I P * > >Uh HUH! So, the common denominator here is the Amiga 3000...I'm experiencing >this problem only on my A3000 w/Warp Engine running LightWave 3.5 Standalone. > >My Toaster machine (A2000 w/G-Force and Toaster4000) has never experienced >this problem during the 3+ years I've been rendering LW anims. > >I wonder if this is something Allen knows about and it will be corrected >in 4.0 or it it's a hardware problem....I've started playing with >different CPU settings for the Warp Engine...LightWave will definitely >not work with CopyBack turned on...gonna try some other things though and >hope for the best. > > -David Warner > Event Horizon Graphics > > I don't think it has anything to do with the WarpEngine. I experience this problem prior to installing the WareEngine. I think it has something to do with the graphics display chips used in the Amiga 3000. This is only a guess. ------------------------------------- Have a Nice Day! John Bourg - Production Manager Computer Television Network jbctn@phoenix.net ------------------------------------- From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 15:01:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA04185; Fri, 5 May 1995 14:13:17 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA04116; Fri, 5 May 1995 14:13:11 -0700 Received: from crl5.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA00244 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 5 May 1995 14:12:57 -0700 Received: by crl5.crl.com id AA17672 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for Lightwave ); Fri, 5 May 1995 13:53:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:53:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl Andrew Johnson To: Lightwave Subject: NewTek COntact Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk For those of you who want to know if the Amiga has been abandoned, when the next Flyer upgrade will be, and what are the upgrade options for the Toaster users, call INFORAMTION in Topeka, Kansas and ask for the number of NewTek. I think that's the easiest way to get all your questions answered. -Carl From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 16:34:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA19816; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:18:40 -0700 Received: from phoenix.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA28258; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:55:43 -0700 Received: from jbctn.phoenix.net (dial31.phoenix.net [199.3.234.66]) by phoenix.net (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA23549; Fri, 5 May 1995 15:49:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 15:47:05 PDT From: John Bourg Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: Joe Angell Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com X-Mailer: Chameleon ARM_55, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I remember having to change the "Fat Agnes" chip out to make the Toaster 2000 work with the Amiga 3000 but I don't recall ever changing it back when the Toaster 4000 was installed. Hummmm? I'll get back to you on this one. On Fri, 5 May 1995 16:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Joe Angell wrote: > > >> * S N I P * >> > >> I don't think it has anything to do with the WarpEngine. I experience this >> problem prior to installing the WareEngine. I think it has something to do >> with the graphics display chips used in the Amiga 3000. This is only a >> guess. > >I dunno about that. As far as I can remember, the A3000's only difference >between the A2000 is the 030, ZorroIII and the ECS chip set. I have >upgraded my Old ChipSet to the Enhanced ChipSet, including both a MegAChip >with the 2-Meg Agnus and the ECS Denise (which I had to remove -- the >Toaster gives messed up buffers with the ECS denise in when I'm at RISD, >but when I go home for vacations, the ECS chip works fine back to >OCS Denise now (BTW, by "messed up" I mean the DVs are the wrong colors, >with almost a key-type effect cutting through parts. really strange...) > >Oh well.... Just my 2 cents... > >-- Joe > > ------------------------------------- Have a Nice Day! John Bourg - Production Manager Computer Television Network jbctn@phoenix.net ------------------------------------- From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 16:32:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA19663; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:16:45 -0700 Received: from lois.dti.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA24126; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:30:38 -0700 Received: from menage.dti.com ([192.84.116.10]) by lois.dti.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA22140 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:54:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199505051754.MAA22140@lois.dti.com> From: blaise@lois.dti.com Organization: Deskstation Technology To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:30:43 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: LightWave 4.0 for Mips? Reply-to: blaise@dti.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: blaise@dti.com X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > From: davewarner@globalone.net > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:54:41 -0400 > Subject: LightWave 4.0 for Mips? > To: LightWave Mail List > > I'm sure this has been answered a million times already, but I'm > seriously considering the purchase of one of the Raptor 2 machines for > sale on the LightWave newsgroup and I can't remember if LightWave 4.0 has > a Mips version coming out or not?? Most likely, yes? > Yes. Coincident with the NT/Intel and NT/MIPS versions. I have one of the preliminary versions on this very system for benchmarking. > Does anyone else out there own a Raptor 2 machine or better? The > gentleman selling it says it will run most Windows application for the PC > in addition to WindowsNT stuff...is this correct? I was under the > impression that I would have to find software written specifically for > the Mips processor. > You may run many Windows applications emulated. I'm typing this message on a Tyne workstation running Pegasus Mail for Windows in emulated mode. I have native versions of Excel, Word, Mosaic, and electronic design and simulation tools. The rule of thumb is that you probably want to run your line-of-business applications native if at all possible. The little tools you use to help you get through the day are reasonable in emulation. > Any additional info anyone could give on the Raptor 2 or DeskStations' Tyne > workstation would be greatly appreciated! The Raptor 2 is great, but I'm biased because I designed it :-) > > -David Warner > Event Horizon Graphics > > > Blaise Fanning Chief Technology Officer Deskstation Technology (913) 599-1900 blaise@dti.com From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 16:34:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA10544; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:08:22 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA10534; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:08:12 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01668; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:08:33 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02994; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:09:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:05:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: John Bourg Cc: davewarner@globalone.net, lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995, John Bourg wrote: > > On Tue, 2 May 1995 19:51:53 -0400 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > > * S N I P * > > > >Uh HUH! So, the common denominator here is the Amiga 3000...I'm > experiencing > >this problem only on my A3000 w/Warp Engine running LightWave 3.5 > Standalone. > > > >My Toaster machine (A2000 w/G-Force and Toaster4000) has never experienced > >this problem during the 3+ years I've been rendering LW anims. > > > >I wonder if this is something Allen knows about and it will be corrected > >in 4.0 or it it's a hardware problem....I've started playing with > >different CPU settings for the Warp Engine...LightWave will definitely > >not work with CopyBack turned on...gonna try some other things though and > >hope for the best. > > > > -David Warner > > Event Horizon Graphics > > > > > I don't think it has anything to do with the WarpEngine. I experience this > problem prior to installing the WareEngine. I think it has something to do > with the graphics display chips used in the Amiga 3000. This is only a > guess. I dunno about that. As far as I can remember, the A3000's only difference between the A2000 is the 030, ZorroIII and the ECS chip set. I have upgraded my Old ChipSet to the Enhanced ChipSet, including both a MegAChip with the 2-Meg Agnus and the ECS Denise (which I had to remove -- the Toaster gives messed up buffers with the ECS denise in when I'm at RISD, but when I go home for vacations, the ECS chip works fine back to OCS Denise now (BTW, by "messed up" I mean the DVs are the wrong colors, with almost a key-type effect cutting through parts. really strange...) Oh well.... Just my 2 cents... -- Joe From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 16:24:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA21213; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:44:26 -0700 Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA21032; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:42:58 -0700 Received: from by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA08595; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:42:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:42:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199505051542.IAA08595@ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: fwtep@ix.netcom.com (Fred Tepper) Subject: Re: Copy Protection To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: > >> No, the idea would be that you only need the CD in when you start the >>program. After that you could take it out and put in whatever CD you want. >> -=Fred=- > > Well with the cost of CD recorders less than $2000.00 and blanks at 4 > cents a meg($29.00) this is not a real deterant to the professional pirate. > For a small investment(that could also be used to build interactive > games ect) one could crank out CD of Lightwave for $30.00 apiece. > The price on these units will only be going down in the future. So > while it is a nice thought it is not practicle at this point in time and > will be less so as time passes. > bill > Bill, There ARE no ways to stop professional pirates. This would stop the casual pirater, just like the dongle does. Besides, I don't think professional pirates would be too interested in LW. -=Fred=- From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 17:56:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA11797; Fri, 5 May 1995 15:58:35 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA21241; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:44:40 -0700 From: Harv@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA13104 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:44:43 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id IAA16016 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:44:42 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Copy Protection Lines: 19 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 08:44:41 PDT Message-ID: <9505050844.1.15724@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Amiga Standalone LightWave 3.5 uses a parallel port dongle. It has pass-thru holes on it but those holes don't pass thru nuttin. No way to stack another dongle on it, or a printer cable, or a networking cable or anything else. It's an odious form of copy protection. If they HAD to use a dongle, they should've put it on another port, such as mouse/joystick port #2, which I'd guess most animators/artists would be a lot less likely to already have something plugged into than their parallel ports. You asked about Imagine. It has no copy protection. As far as the PeeCee flavor of LightWave, I believe it too has a dongle on the parallel port. Whether or not it passes thru the pins I don't know since I don't have a PeeCee, don't plan to buy one, and generally dislike them completely :) Harv harv@cup.portal.com From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:22:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA12957; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:09:27 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA16864; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:22:33 -0700 From: DonH@cup.portal.com Received: from hobo.online.portal.com (hobo.online.portal.com [156.151.5.5]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA10816 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:22:30 -0700 Received: (pccop@localhost) by hobo.online.portal.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) id IAA15541 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:22:28 -0700 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Switching LW4 Video Modes on the Fly Lines: 13 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 08:22:28 PDT Message-ID: <9505050822.2.15373@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I recently received LW4/PC. Many people have been frustrated by the fact that it seems to run a lot slower in 24 bit versus 8 bit even with a very fast video card. Also, Modeler suggests it be run in 8 bit. It's not realistic to have to reload Windows at a different resolution each time you want to switch video modes. Sample renderings with 256 colors look terrible. I have th Matrox Ultima2 card which allows hotkey switching between 4 different resolutions without exiting Windows. I can work with 8 bit in Modeler and 24bt in Layout or stay in 8 bit for all operations and view the output file in 24bt with a simple image viewer. For thoses whose card does not have this function, there used to be a Windows program called Anyview which did the same thing. I think I read that this function will also be included in Win 95. Don From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA02840; Fri, 5 May 1995 14:29:44 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA02455; Fri, 5 May 1995 14:27:31 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA07951 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:28:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:28:10 -0400 Subject: Re: upgrade cutoff To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 1995, Stephen Bowie wrote: > Could someone kindly post the current NewTek phone/fax numbers so those > of us who've been waiting (duhhh) for NewTek to inform us about our > upgrade options can get off our keesters? NewTek: From the United States: 1-800-847-6111 From outside the USA: 1-913-228-8000 FAX: 1-913-228-8099 Internet Web Page: HTTP://WWW.NEWTEK.COM Anonymous FTP: FTP.NEWTEK.COM ShortWave: unknown Morse Code: unknown Smoke Signal: unknown Intergalactic Transponder: unknown Interactive Cybernetic Link: coming soon? That should help! =) -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:11:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA26121; Fri, 5 May 1995 09:06:15 -0700 Received: from mv.mv.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA25622; Fri, 5 May 1995 09:04:05 -0700 Received: by mv.mv.com (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-940616) id MAA02902 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:04:49 -0400 Received: by fusion.mv.com (V1.16/Amiga) id AA008d4; Fri, 5 May 95 10:28:19 EST Date: Fri, 5 May 95 10:28:19 EST Message-Id: <9505051528.AA008d3@fusion.mv.com> Message-Id: <209dbeb7.e7f07-mark@fusion.mv.com> In-Reply-To: (from DMetcalfe ) (at Thu, 4 May 1995 12:29:14 -0700 (PDT)) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 4.159) From: mark@fusion.MV.COM (Mark Thompson) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help PLEASE. Networking PC and Amiga Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk DMetcalfe writes: > Your mention of an upcoming product from Interworks got me on the phone > to them right away. The product is called Inet225, and works right now > for Amiga and NT. As you may have guessed, this is based on the original Commodore AS225 TCP/IP package for their 2065 ethernet card. More importantly, as with every other Amiga network solution out there, it *DOES NOT* include NFS server software. So you still have the problem that you cannot mount Amiga drives and resources from other systems. To me, this is a major bummer! > Who's using it? Do >any< of the big-time LW beta sites still use Amigas? Yes, but because of the terrible state of networking on the Amiga, most are doing everything they can to move everything over. *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * Mark Thompson (603) 424-1829 * * Fusion Films Inc. mark@fusion.mv.com * * Radiant Image Productions * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:51:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA13995; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:20:40 -0700 Received: from throm.jpl.nasa.gov by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA26053; Fri, 5 May 1995 09:00:07 -0700 From: Enrique.A.Gamez@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov Received: from danea-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov by throm.jpl.nasa.gov; Fri, 5 May 95 09:00:21 -0700 Received: by danea.jpl.nasa.gov (5.x/SMI-SVR4+DXRs2.3+GKEs1.0) id AA29868; Fri, 5 May 1995 09:00:20 -0700 Received: by danea from ccmail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov id <950505090019.CC5234400@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> with CCTORFC Fri May 5 09:00:19 1995 Message-Id: <950505090019.CC5234400@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Date: 05 May 95 08:44:00 -11337 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com, toaster-l@netcom.com Subject: COMMODORE reborn! Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes --------------------------- From: info@ivory.educom.edu at Internet Date: 5/4/95 7:04PM *To: at Internet Subject: Edupage 5/4/95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thought you'd all like to know AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT! (see article summary below) :-) -EG. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Edupage 5/4/95 Author: info@ivory.educom.edu at Internet Date: 5/4/95 7:04 PM *************************************************************** Edupage, a summary of news items on information technology, is provided three times each week as a service by Educom -- a Washington, D.C.-based consortium of leading colleges and universities seeking to transform education through the use of information technology. *************************************************************** TOP STORIES TCI To Offer Online Access Computer Industy Urges Standard For Videodisks "Decency" Legislation Is Not The Answer Flat-Panel Display Project Gets Thumbs Down Digital Signature Gain Legitimacy ALSO Oracle Wins Another Interactive TV Deal Commodore Reborn MBone Covers Conference Funding For Public Broadcasting Microsoft Adds To Custom Service Operation IBM, NCR Win In RSI Trial Online Academic Publishing Venture Satellite-Delivered Digital Communications Services Mandatory Computers On Campus Spark Controversy Xerox Document Delivery CNN On Compuserve More Software On The Web COMMODORE REBORN The German company Escom AG which has about 1500 computer stores in Europe has paid $10 million for the rights to the name and intellectual property of Commodore Electronics Ltd., the company that developed Commodore and Amiga computers and went out of business last year. Escom says it plans to resume production of the entire Amiga product line and to make Amiga technology MS-DOS compatible. (Wall Street Journal 5/4/95 B7) Edupage is written by John Gehl (gehl@educom.edu) & Suzanne Douglas (douglas@educom.edu). Voice: 404-371-1853, Fax: 404-371-8057 *************************************************************** From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 20:30:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA20678; Fri, 5 May 1995 15:49:51 -0700 Received: from relay1.geis.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA20324; Fri, 5 May 1995 15:48:19 -0700 From: t.taylor4@genie.geis.com Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.11/15.6) id AA134594108; Fri, 5 May 1995 22:48:28 GMT Message-Id: <199505052248.AA134594108@relay1.geis.com> Date: Fri, 5 May 95 22:14:00 UTC To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Dual Pentium Question X-Genie-Id: 7720650 X-Genie-From: T.TAYLOR4 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Is anyone out there running a dual Pentium System with lightwave? My Dual P100 is on the way. I'm getting 48Mb RAM and I'm wondering if that will be enough to let one CPU render while the other runs modeler. For any having problems finding Lightwave, I've got one copy on the shelf and two more on the way. $775 +SH Tank Taylor Vision Imaging From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 21:03:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA11972; Fri, 5 May 1995 20:47:20 -0700 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA11959; Fri, 5 May 1995 20:47:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gross Subject: Re: Quick LW Questions To: Thomas Healy cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <9505050539.5evy@nesbbx.rain.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > > Is there a way to set Layout's preferences to start up with certian features > engaged? Like Show safe areas? I tried messing with the prefs file, but I > didn't have any luck. Some things aren't in the config. You could save a scene file with all of your prefs set and load that as the default each time. Of course, you wouldn't need to have any objects in the scene... > Is there a quick (Key-shortcut) way to get modelers four views centered > again? Like what happens when you hit new, but without loosing the data?? If you are using the prerelease of 4.0, each time you start Modeler, you could save the grid centered to one of the numeric keys. See the shortcuts requester (F12) for help.. JG From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 21:56:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA15504; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:06:46 -0700 Received: from sage.acti.com by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA15244; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:05:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 17:01 PDT Message-ID: <9505051702.AA03873@sage.acti.com> Received: from acti.com by sage.acti.com; Fri, 5 May 95 17:01 PDT X-Sender: dan@sage X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 2327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: dan@acti.com (Daniel J. McCoy) Subject: Pack your bags! We're moving to our new home! Cc: toaster-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk It's going to happen! The mailing lists are moving! The new home is set up and appears to be working fine. We can now have digests, message footers, and other goodies I can enable/disable at whim. But I've got a favor to ask. Rather than automatically subscribing everyone to the respective new home, I ask that everyone subscribe themselves to the new list of choice. This serves to purposes. First, you get to subscribe to your flavor of choice (digested or non-digested). Second, I now know what addresses truely are 100% working rather than making SWAGs. :) Which do you wish to subscribe to? That all depends on how much e-mail your mailbox can take. Some folk don't have large enough mailboxes to handle the message traffic. Perhaps you don't enjoy a flury of messages in your mailbox? In those cases, you can subscribe to the digested mailing list. No more than seven day's worth of normal mailing list messages are archived and sent out to you. Otherwise, you can subscribe to the normal mailing list and get messages as they come through. The process is painless and easy. :) To subscribe to the NEW home, send e-mail to one of the following addresses depending on if you wish to be on the normal or digested mailing list. Do NOT send to the address listed as the place to post messages though. In the body of the message, include the following: subscribe end can be an address other than the one you are posting from. Don't include the brackets. Remember, this is optional. LightWave3D Mailing List ------------------------ Normal Subscriptions: lightwave-request@webcom.com Digest Subscriptions: lightwave-digest-request@webcom.com To post messages, send e-mail to: lightwave@webcom.com Video Toaster/Flyer Mailing List -------------------------------- Normal Subscriptions: toaster-request@webcom.com Digest Subscriptions: toaster-digest-request@webcom.com To post messages, send e-mail to: toaster@webcom.com I figure two weeks is good enough before the mailing lists on Netcom are removed. It'll take a while before everyone knows where it is moving to. I'll be posting this information to the appropriate newsgroups tomorrow morning. That's it! Thanks a bunch! Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy | djmccoy@primenet.com or netcom.com and dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 23:32:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA28002; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:52:26 -0700 Received: from goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA27661; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:50:34 -0700 Received: from [199.245.242.128] (bei.moscow.com [199.245.242.128]) by goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA15579 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:53:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199505060153.SAA15579@goshawk.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 18:54:29 -0800 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Subject: Re: Quick LW Questions Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >Couple of quick questions: > > >Is there a way to set Layout's preferences to start up with certian features >engaged? Like Show safe areas? I tried messing with the prefs file, but I >didn't have any luck. If it can't be set in the config file you may want to make a dummy scene file that sets the parameters and load it when run LW. > >Is there a quick (Key-shortcut) way to get modelers four views centered >again? Like what happens when you hit new, but without loosing the data?? > There is in 4.0. You can use the Keypad to save and retrieve views and the zoom settings. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 23:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA22084; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:22:22 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA22034; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:21:56 -0700 From: Joseburgos@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA298889722; Fri, 5 May 1995 20:22:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 20:22:02 -0400 Message-Id: <950505202157_108506477@aol.com> To: dan@acti.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: New Home For Mailing Lists Soon Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'll (JD Media) donate one month. If we take turns , donating each a different month, then the list would thrive. Were all profesional's, or most of us, and use the list to help ourself's in one way or another. If were not stuck with a problem with a dead line hanging over us, were advertising our products on the list. Dan we love what you do for us and I know it's your love of the list that makes it better but let us help (Money that is. I bless this world that we have you to remove bounces, add subscribers and all the stuff you do) you. Thank you, ********************************************** Jose Burgos JD Media Inc. Home of "Into the Light" (Intolight@aol.com) 262 92nd Street Brooklyn, NY 11209 718-836-2821 Joseburgos@aol.com Computer Graphic Imagery ******************************************************* From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 01:13:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA20280; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:22:41 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA20272; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:22:35 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA10826 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:23:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:23:20 -0400 Subject: Networking PC and Amiga To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <9505051528.AA008d3@fusion.mv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk For anyone seeking detailed help with networking their Amiga to a PC or any other sort of networking solutions, I recommend a book by Dale Larson called 'Connect Your Amiga'. Dale is the former Software Engineer for Commodore's Amiga Networking Group and was one of the principle authors of the SANA-II Networking Device Driver standard...in other words, he know what he's talking about when it comes to setting up networks! It sells for $24.95 and aside from covering LOTS of networking info (TCP/IP, Envoy, PPP, DECnet, and much more) it gets pretty deep into the Internet and general telecommunications. "Connect Your Amiga" is sold by Intangible Assets Manufacturing who also carries many other cool Amiga products, including Dave Haynie's video "The Deathbed Vigil and other tales of digital angst" which documents (more or less) the final days (years) of Commodore and how the REAL Amiga people felt when Commodore went belly up...very funny tape and recommended viewing for any devoted Amigan. (Warning, the tape was produced by a hardware engineer and not a video producer, so the quality is not the greatest, but the content more than makes up for lacking technical merit) I.A.M. prefers to take orders via E-mail, Mail, or Fax but you can call them voice too...advisable for credit card orders...you can contact them at: Voice Phone: 1-610-853-4406 (orders only) Fax: 1-610-853-3733 World Wide Web: HTTP://www.iam.com/iam E-Mail: info@iam.com (info only) or: sales@iam.com (to place an order) Regular Mail: Intangible Assets Manufacturing 828 Ormond Avenue Drexel Hill, PA 19026-1604 USA Sorry for the non-LightWave post, but I think this book may help some people with their networking and Internet problems...it certainly cleared up a few things for me about Ethernet connections and using Mosaic on the Amiga! -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics P.S. No, I don't work for I.A.M. either...just passing along info about a couple of cool products. From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 02:08:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28078; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:32:15 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA28058; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:32:09 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06833; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:32:39 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26171; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:33:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LightWave 3.5 is fading fast! To: John Bourg Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > I remember having to change the "Fat Agnes" chip out to make the Toaster > 2000 work with the Amiga 3000 but I don't recall ever changing it back when > the Toaster 4000 was installed. Hummmm? I'll get back to you on this one. It's just one of those strange things -- it's a VT4000 in an A2000. When I'm back in Connecticut, it works fine and dandy with the ECS Denise in, but in Rhode Island (at least at RISD) the Toaster's DVs go wacky. The thing is that until I got to RISD, I'd had the ECS Denise in for almost a year with no problems. I called the NewTek BBS, and they suggested i check Denise. Seems to have helped, but it doesn't explain why it works in one state & not the other... really wierd... -- Joe From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 10:06:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA17852; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:25:52 -0700 Received: from datasrv.co.il by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA05804; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:26:00 -0700 Received: by datasrv.co.il id AA22228 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for LightWave Mailing List ); Sat, 6 May 1995 13:26:21 +0300 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 13:26:20 +0300 (IDT) From: Zapa Digital Art Subject: Re: Render times To: LightWave Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Mark :) > : shucks. > Of course the A4000-040 is gowing to be slower. How can u compare an > 040 to a P100 ? > A better comparison would be a P100 to an 060-50Mhz. > Ive read the 060-50 is 20 to 30% faster at rendering in LW and Imagine > than a P90. I'm not shucksing about the results, I do about this-is-the-slower-platform-I-work-on-and-love against this-is-the-faster-platform-but-I-hate-it. Life shucks. Nir Hermoni, Israel zapa@datasrv.co.il From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 10:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA17899; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:26:23 -0700 Received: from mail.torfree.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA23346; Sat, 6 May 1995 05:50:58 -0700 Received: from queen.torfree.net by mail.torfree.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s7jJH-000LWSC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:50 EDT Received: by queen.torfree.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s7ir6-0006zcC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:21 EDT Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 08:21:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bowie Subject: Re: Copy Protection To: Harv@cup.portal.com cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <9505050844.1.15724@cup.portal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995 Harv@cup.portal.com wrote: > Amiga Standalone LightWave 3.5 uses a parallel port dongle. It has > pass-thru holes on it but those holes don't pass thru nuttin. No way > to stack another dongle on it, or a printer cable, or a networking > cable or anything else. > Just to be perfectly fair, my 3.5 SA dongle (Amiga, of course) does "pass thru" most stuff, although several apps refuse to print through it (major pain in the ......). > It's an odious form of copy protection. If they HAD to use a dongle, > they should've put it on another port, such as mouse/joystick port #2, > which I'd guess most animators/artists would be a lot less likely > to already have something plugged into than their parallel ports. > If i remember correctly, this was tried at one point, but it seems to me that this system was equally unpopular among those using the gameport as a GPI trigger or some such.... > You asked about Imagine. It has no copy protection. > Maybe since so few of us Amiga users are expected to stick with the platform, and since we're having a partially "crippled" version foisted off on us anyway (lack of full support for capabilities of current machines) - PERHAPS WE FEW OF THE FAITHFUL DON'T REALLY POSE A SUBSTANTIAL PIRACY THREAT, AND THE AMIGA VERSION WON'T REQUIRE A DONGLE (Hint, hint).!!! After all, I thinks there's only you, me, and the other guy, and we're honest...what self respecting pirate would bother with the three of us? > As far as the PeeCee flavor of LightWave, I believe it too has a dongle > on the parallel port. Whether or not it passes thru the pins I don't > know since I don't have a PeeCee, don't plan to buy one, and generally > dislike them completely :) > > Harv > harv@cup.portal.com > Ahhh...a "cogniscenti"!! (Actually, I might eventually get one for my son as a game machine :-) .............................................................. * Steve Bowie |"Commodore is dead - * * ad636@torfree.net | long live the Amiga!!!" * * North York, Ontario, Canada | SPECTRAN * .............................................................. From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 10:35:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA17879; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:26:12 -0700 Received: from mail.torfree.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA21823; Sat, 6 May 1995 05:37:55 -0700 Received: from queen.torfree.net by mail.torfree.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s7j73-000LWaC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:37 EDT Received: by queen.torfree.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s7j6s-0006zeC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:37 EDT Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 08:37:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bowie Subject: Amiga 4.0 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Having read several warnings through this list of the June 30th date for the cancellation of the $149. upgrade from 3.5, I called NewTek yesterday. I was informed that the Amiga version was not yet released, and was expected around June 1. When I explained that I was concerned about the deadline for upgrading, I was curtly informed that I would still have 30 days or so, and that they were NOT (not my emphasis) taking orders! Now, I'm reluctant to be critical...NewTek has done a lot for us Amigans...still, I expected to be notified by mail of the upgrade offer; I expected to have time for a coffee before making out my cheque (what if it's late being released?); what if I am holidaying in Bolivia in June; what if I don't read this list........ Can you say "Customer Service " (and mean it)?? SERIOUSLY unimpressed :-( Steve. .............................................................. * Steve Bowie |"Commodore is dead - * * ad636@torfree.net | long live the Amiga!!!" * * North York, Ontario, Canada | SPECTRAN * .............................................................. From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 10:45:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA17685; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:24:53 -0700 Received: from motgate.mot.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA21641; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:23:23 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.6) with ESMTP id XAA28189 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 23:23:32 -0500 Received: from next3.corp.mot.com (next3.corp.mot.com [129.188.149.59]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.6) with SMTP id XAA14063 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 23:23:31 -0500 Received: from csnaa.corp.mot.com by next3.corp.mot.com (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA14111; Fri, 5 May 95 23:23:30 CDT From: nairdo@next3.corp.mot.com (Nick Airdo) Message-Id: <9505060423.AA14111@ next3.corp.mot.com > Received: by csnaa.corp.mot.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0X) id AA02291; Fri, 5 May 95 21:23:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 21:23:25 -0700 Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Copy Protection Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Fred wrote: > Bill, > There ARE no ways to stop professional pirates. I agree. > This would stop the > casual pirater, just like the dongle does. I also agree. > Besides, I don't think > professional pirates would be too interested in LW. I would have to disagree with this. I've seen companies formed because they found the "black market" that was willing to purchase *their* hardware and/or software that allowed them to illegally copy software that was 'uncopyable' through the operating system. Seeing as how LW is so very expensive and so very cool, a device (like a fake dongle and/or even a fake/pirate LW CD!) or software that allowed you to copy the LW CD could sell for even hundreds of dollars. I hate dongles, copy protection schemes, etc, but I also understand NewTek's concern for their income..... after all they need so re-sell us an upgrade of their software every year to pay their salaries...unless they start selling *new* copies of LW to many new customers (which *SHOULD* lower the cost for all of us - please). Sorry to get off the LW topic (I did want to voice my LW pricing concern ;) --- Nick -- perhaps we should move the 'copy protection religious war' into another news group. From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:37:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA29687; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:28:29 -0700 Received: from rhythm.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA29501; Thu, 4 May 1995 16:27:20 -0700 Received: by rhythm.com (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for lightwave-l@netcom.com id AA23725; Thu, 4 May 95 16:27:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 95 16:27:59 -0700 From: neil@rhythm.com (Neil Richmond) Message-Id: <9505042327.AA23725@rhythm.com> To: Kevin Currie Subject: Re: LW Upgrade -- an Why Are Macs Slow? Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >> > Why won't the DOS card work on the Mac? I want to get an Emplant and a >> What do you mean? There's at least a few different DOS cards for >> the Mac. >> I called Newtek and spoke a tech support person there, because I wanted to know why it wouldn't work. (I'm very tenacious). There are two issues involved: 1) It has to be DOS/Windows. The emulator cards I have looked at are r real DOS cards sitting in a MAC. He said, technically, it should work, , it had never been tried. 2) The dongle must be on a parallel port. At least one card I have seen has a parallel port. His final response was, if it works, let us know. So, I am going to try this, unless someone beats me to it and says it is a failure. Here's a big question. The card I am interested in has a max capability of 32 megs on board. How much is needed to run windows? Will what is left be enough to run LW on a Windows Platform? Later. neil " Give a skeptic an inch and he'll measure it. " Neil F. Richmond neil@rhythm.com Rhythm & Hues Inc. From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 18:41:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA06750; Thu, 4 May 1995 11:29:19 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA06567; Thu, 4 May 1995 11:28:09 -0700 From: DanEsmond@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA049592059; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:27:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:27:39 -0400 Message-Id: <950504142737_106759056@aol.com> To: mvaf@anuxv.att.com Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: LW 4.0 PC Woes! Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 95-05-04 07:44:16 EDT, you write: > If the animation is longer than 100 frames, it hangs my PC after >making the 105th or so frame. My machine hangs at the same place. I thought maybe the place had something to do with the amount of RAM in my machine. You have twice as much RAM as I do... hmmmm. Dan Esmond Animagic Austin, TX From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 20:56:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA15744; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:56:31 -0700 Received: from mickey.risd.edu by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA15720; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:56:19 -0700 Received: from minnie by mickey.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08344; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:56:33 -0400 Received: by minnie.risd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17885; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:57:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Angell Subject: Re: LW Upgrade -- an Why Are Macs Slow? To: Kevin Currie Cc: Neil Richmond , lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I re-read that message I posted a bit ago and I'd like to appologize for it... I realized it looks like a lot of Mac flaming and didn't make an incredible amount of sense. While I'm not a big fan of te MacOS (I think it's pretty damn slow, to tell ya the truth), I still have some problems understanding why the PowerPC chip can't emulate an 040-40MHz Mac or so ON a Mac while Emplant at least is somewhere around the equivilent speed -- even in the buggy IBM version. Also, I think that ShapeShifter being able to emulate the OS AND run about the same speed as a real mac is pretty impressive, since the PowerPC already has the OS, but still has to change the instructions, and still runs slow... Sorry for this rambling... I'm getting sleepy... Render... zzzz.... Thanx for the reply to clear some of this up, Kevin... -- Joe On Thu, 4 May 1995, Kevin Currie wrote: > On Wed, 3 May 1995, Joe Angell wrote: > > > Why is it that Macs can't emulate even THEMSELVES (PowerPC running > > non-native) at a reasonable speed (68030-ish, I think), but an 040 33MHz > Because the PowerPC chip has to emulate a *TOTALLY DIFFERENT* chip. > That takes alot of work. > > > Amiga can run Mac or PC software FASTER than an equivilent Mac or PC (040 > > 40MHz Mac/486DX2 PC, using an EMPLANT)?!? Even SHAREWARE, software ONLY > > Shapeshifter claims the speed of an equivilently equiped Mac. > Emplant and SS are as fast as they are because THEY ARE NOT EMULATING > THE PROCESSOR, only the OS. Nobody (except JD) has "proven" that the Amiga > can emulate a PC faster than the PC runs native. > > > Why won't the DOS card work on the Mac? I want to get an Emplant and a > What do you mean? There's at least a few different DOS cards for > the Mac. > > > Picasso II simply to run PhototShop (and probobly Fractal Design Painter). > > It it some strange IBM addressing thing, or is the Mac just wierd? > I'm not sure what you're talking about at all... > > > | Think for yourself... then Decide... |----------------------------- > | Ignorance breeds Arrogance... | curriek@cognos.com > | A4K/WE40/40/NetBSD/Emplant |Silicon Valley NORTH, Canada > From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 20:38:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA17803; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:24:29 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA17044; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:21:47 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA00334 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:21:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:21:07 -0400 Subject: Re: LW Upgrade To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: <9505040531.AA15257@rhythm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 May 1995, Neil Richmond wrote: > I got this directly from a customer service rep at Newtek. I asked about > possible other cards like a Pentium card and she said no way. She said it > would not work in a Mac. Dag-nabbit! Looks like I'm doomed to end up with a PC. =( I guess the only hope for a PowerMac version now is if a PPC version of WindowsNT gets released soon and Allen/Stuart find some spare time (HAH!) to port it over. Too bad...specs on the new 603 and 604 PPC chips suggest that they will blow the fastest Pentium clean out of the water and maybe even give the Alpha chips a run for their money.... -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 20:08:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA27561; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:36:16 -0700 Received: from lemur.magnet.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA27392; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:35:09 -0700 Received: from pdavies.MAIN (annexmacpc208.magnet.com [199.125.237.208]) by lemur.magnet.com (8.6.10/MAGNET) with SMTP id KAA14396 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:35:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:35:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199505041435.KAA14396@lemur.magnet.com> X-Sender: pdavies@magnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: pdavies@magnet.com (Paul A. Davies) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fwd: Re: LW 4.0 Scene Loading Problem! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >I think it may be a bug with Win 95. I have trouble loding both scenes >created on the Amiga and on the PC system. They all load fine, however, >under NT. Since altering my LW config I've had no problems running LW as a Win32 app under Windows95. It's to bad you have to edit the config if you change your installation destination. The installer should update the config to reflect the new location. Paul Davies Concept Artist Magnet Studios From owner-lightwave-l Fri May 5 19:59:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA25277; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:21:42 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA24926; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:19:07 -0700 From: FXVET@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA151167893; Thu, 4 May 1995 13:18:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: <950504131812_106689486@aol.com> To: DawsonX_Schaffer@ccm.jf.intel.com, owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com, ecohane@ix.netcom.com, Eric_Thornquist@mindlink.bc.ca Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: ** Commercial** For Sale... Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Amiga System for sale... Amiga 4000/040 18 MB RAM 120 MB HD GVP SCSI controller DPS Personal Animation Recorder Software (Lightwave, Forge, Image FX, Vista Pro etc.) $4000.00 I have also found myself with an extra copy of Lightwave 4.0 (Intel), due to a change of plans on my part. It's in the box, never used, with registration, 2 manuals, dongle, etc. I am offering it for sale at the bargain price of $600.00 From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 13:26:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA23692; Sat, 6 May 1995 07:59:30 -0700 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA23497; Sat, 6 May 1995 07:58:27 -0700 Received: from waynesworld.UCSD.EDU by mail.ucsd.edu; id HAA29478 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Sat, 6 May 1995 07:59:13 -0700 Received: by waynesworld.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDGENERIC.5) id AA11525 to lightwave-l@netcom.com; Sat, 6 May 95 07:58:11 PDT Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Gerber To: davewarner@globalone.net Cc: LightWave Mail List Subject: Re: LightWave 4.0 for Mips? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > I'm sure this has been answered a million times already, but I'm > seriously considering the purchase of one of the Raptor 2 machines for > sale on the LightWave newsgroup and I can't remember if LightWave 4.0 has > a Mips version coming out or not?? Most likely, yes? > > Does anyone else out there own a Raptor 2 machine or better? The > gentleman selling it says it will run most Windows application for the PC > in addition to WindowsNT stuff...is this correct? I was under the > impression that I would have to find software written specifically for > the Mips processor. > > Any additional info anyone could give on the Raptor 2 or DeskStations' Tyne > workstation would be greatly appreciated! > > -David Warner > Event Horizon Graphics > > > Well, I have a Raptor III with the Mips r4600 and yes, there will be a lightwave version for it coming out soon, (in the proverbial two weeks in fact) or so NewTek keeps telling us. It was supposed to ship a few weeks ago, but apparently, is hung up over problems with the instalation program (find it hard to believe). As for other programs running on it, I havn't had much luck with the things I want to run; photoshop doesnt seem to work, even with he 3.01 version, and thats the tip of the iceberg. Photopaint five does, but it's buggy as beta. I here Picture publisher will be coming out in the fall, native, and ron scott's qfx is out now, for the rediculiously high price of 1500 bucks. Winimages is native -- an interesting morph and f/x program which is desparately lackin in the drawing dept ( comon guys, how about a paint brush so you can create those alpha channels ?) a lot of other things are on the way -- softimage 3d and eddie -- but thats in the future. jonathan gerber ucsdtv From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 16:59:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA18428; Sat, 6 May 1995 16:46:34 -0700 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA18206; Sat, 6 May 1995 16:44:53 -0700 From: djmccoy (Daniel J. McCoy) Message-Id: <199505062344.QAA18206@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: Reminder - Moving to New Home To: Toaster-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Lightwave-l@netcom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1653 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Just a reminder to those still posting to this mailing list and those that have joined since I posted the messages yesterday. Both the LightWave and Video Toaster/Flyer mailing lists are moving to a new home. If you have already subscribed to the mailing lists at the new location, send this message to the appropriate trash can. :) If you haven't subscribed to the mailing lists at their new home, I suggest you do. The subscription databases won't be moving. It's a good way to flush out bad addresses. :) Here's the subscription information: Send e-mail to the address listed below depending on which version of the list you wish to received. In the body of the message, include: subscribe end is completely optional and can be used to subscribe an address other than the one you are posting from. Don't include the brackets. LightWave3D Mailing List ------------------------ Non-Digest - lightwave-request@webcom.com Digest - lightwave-digest-request@webcom.com Video Toaster/Flyer Mailing List -------------------------------- Non-Digest - toaster-request@webcom.com Digest - toaster-digest-request@webcom.com Those of you unsure which to subscribe to, the non-digest mailing list sends you each message as they are received and processed. In digest form, these messages are kept for up to 7 days and THEN sent to you in one large message. If your mailbox has quotas, the digest mailing list may be the way to go. Thanks and have fun, Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy BIX: dmccoy Internet : djmccoy@primenet.com, djmccoy@netcom.com, dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 18:12:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA25291; Sat, 6 May 1995 15:06:54 -0700 Received: from bos1f.delphi.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA25189; Sat, 6 May 1995 15:06:22 -0700 From: VIDAN@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HQ6X5706688X6OCT@delphi.com>; Sat, 06 May 1995 18:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 06 May 1995 18:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Who ever has PC-Prerelease for Sale! To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Message-id: <01HQ6X570PGY8X6OCT@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"lightwave-l@netcom.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Sorry for taking up the bandwidth, But could whoever posted that they had a PC-4.0 prerelease for sale please drop me e-mail. I think I might have a someone interested in it if you still have it! send e-mail to: VIDAN@DELPHI.COM << Sent by Scout v.3.1 >> From owner-lightwave-l Sat May 6 23:14:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA05737; Sat, 6 May 1995 18:44:45 -0700 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA05697; Sat, 6 May 1995 18:43:57 -0700 Received: from gonzales.compulink.co.uk (gonzales.compulink.co.uk [192.188.69.4]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA01026 for lightwave-l@netcom.com; Sun, 7 May 1995 02:43:34 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 May 95 02:43 BST-1 From: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gary Fenton) Subject: Re: COMMODORE reborn! To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Reply-To: garygfx@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: <950505090019.CC5234400@CCMail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> > Thought you'd all like to know AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT! (see article > summary below) :-) >The German company Escom AG which has about 1500 computer stores in Europe >has paid $10 million for the rights to the name and intellectual property >of Commodore Electronics Ltd., the company that developed Commodore and Thank you, but this was discussed in detail 2 weeks ago. We're waiting for a detailed plan from Escom saying EXACTLY what they plan to do for the Amiga's future. They're being very vague and shy at the moment. Gary F. From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 08:42:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA25939; Sun, 7 May 1995 05:45:00 -0700 Received: from iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA25911; Sun, 7 May 1995 05:44:41 -0700 Received: from ppp36.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au (ppp36.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au [203.1.75.136]) by iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA20859 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:37:20 +1000 To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: dshaw@iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au (David A Shaw) Subject: Traced shadow problem Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:46:58 Message-ID: Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, If I remember rightly this was brought up a while ago but I couldn't find it in my archives. Ok here it is. I loaded in a flat plane, the desklamp object and 1 light. Render away everything is OK. Turn on Spotlight and Shadow Map and eveything renders OK. Turn light to Trace Shadows and there is black lines and marks all over the head of the lamp. If someone could refresh my memory on this as to what the problem is. I was doing some light tests and was rather surprised to see this. One thing I will mention is that I haven't noticed this on two anims I did with traced shadows. Please help. Oh yeah my system is as follows. Amiga 4000/40Mhz Warp Engine with 16Mb RAM VLab Motion, Toccatta and an A2065 Ethernet card. The drive is a Barracuda and runs from the Warp. see ya David Shaw Qld Australia From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 09:12:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA28894; Sun, 7 May 1995 05:17:43 -0700 Received: from clark.net by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA28846; Sun, 7 May 1995 05:17:23 -0700 Received: (jamesb@localhost) by clark.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA12903; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:18:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 08:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: James Brooks To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Image map or object(s)? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I am now just about putting the finishing touches on my 'Apartment' project in the Kitchen section. I have notice I have been using a lot of surfaces in my project and it is taking up a lot of memory. I was thinking that I can replace the surfaces with objects where I was image mapping using a paint program but that adds to my SURFACE list! Oh well, something has to give. :-/ Just say for instance, I am touching up on my microwave object. I used a image map of the control panel. But I come to realize that I can create that as a object as well and to me it looks better! I would like to here from others (that is what this list for, right?) on what you all do....which route do you all take? What I have done is removed a good number of image maps off the objects and created objects that looks very much like them by hand in MODELER! Is it better that way or use image mapping? Weird question, huh? I understand that image mapping is great and to get the closest to 'real life' look. My guess: From the looks of it, the object ones look better. Maybe a little bit 'computized' (sp?) but still good in 'my book.' Don't be shy, let me know what YOU think. Thanks for your time. Good day Alex From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 09:43:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA03433; Sun, 7 May 1995 09:20:56 -0700 Received: from datasrv.co.il by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA00619; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:20:02 -0700 Received: by datasrv.co.il id AA13216 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for LightWave Mailing List ); Sun, 7 May 1995 18:20:26 +0300 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 18:20:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Zapa Digital Art Subject: LW and WIN 95 To: LightWave Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk All :) It went like this: Sefi Vigiser, the other amigan at my work place (all the others are MacMeisters) installed win 95 April Test Release, then LW INTEL for win 3.1. LW didn't run, so he installed win 95 again (which seemingly deleted the win32s stuff) and behold! LW 4.0 PR on win95. I tried the texture examples scene, which took 04:23 min on win 3.1 and 14:00 on the A4000/040/40, and it was completed in 03:23 mins. BTW - Win 95 seems like a nice, friendly OS. and I like the way games run on a Pentium 100... Nir Hermoni, Israel zapa@datasrv.co.il From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 10:01:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA03156; Sun, 7 May 1995 09:19:39 -0700 Received: from lois.dti.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA27241; Sat, 6 May 1995 23:12:47 -0700 Received: from menage.dti.com ([192.84.116.10]) by lois.dti.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA25707 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:37:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199505070537.AAA25707@lois.dti.com> From: blaise@lois.dti.com Organization: Deskstation Technology To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:23:08 +0000 Subject: Re: Dual Pentium Question Reply-to: blaise@dti.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > From: t.taylor4@genie.geis.com > Date: Fri, 5 May 95 22:14:00 UTC > To: lightwave-l@netcom.com > Subject: Dual Pentium Question > Is anyone out there running a dual Pentium System with lightwave? My > Dual P100 is on the way. I'm getting 48Mb RAM and I'm wondering if > that will be enough to let one CPU render while the other runs > modeler. > That should be a pretty good amount. If your dual P100 has a secondary cache for each processor, then I think you'll see that the modeler is about as fast with or without a background render taking place. I've always been skeptical of the shared cache schemes, though. If you're getting one of these, I'd be curious to know if the modeler is painful to use while a render is going on. > > . > . > . Blaise Fanning Chief Technology Officer Deskstation Technology (913) 599-1900 blaise@dti.com From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 15:18:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA05322; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:34:09 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA05276; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:33:50 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA17168 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:34:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:34:36 -0400 Subject: Re: COMMODORE reborn! To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995, Gary Fenton wrote: > >The German company Escom AG which has about 1500 computer stores in Europe > >has paid $10 million for the rights to the name and intellectual property > >of Commodore Electronics Ltd., the company that developed Commodore and > > Thank you, but this was discussed in detail 2 weeks ago. We're waiting for > a detailed plan from Escom saying EXACTLY what they plan to do for the > Amiga's future. They're being very vague and shy at the moment. At the risk of getting even further off topic with this thread, I've spoken to a couple of former Commodore engineers recently and while Escom is telling the world that they're hiring back former C= people, neither of these guys has heard a peep from Germany....and I consider at least one of them to be quite necessary to future real development of the Amiga. (can you say "Dave Haynie"?) For now, it seems like Escom is putting more effort into blowing smoke and hot air than actually making real plans for the future of the Amiga, although I hope I'm totally wrong about this...it's still far too early to tell. -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 16:51:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA08240; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:59:44 -0700 Received: from mail.torfree.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA08224; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:59:38 -0700 Received: from queen.torfree.net by mail.torfree.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s8CUC-000LW5C; Sun, 7 May 95 15:59 EDT Received: by queen.torfree.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s8CUB-0006zdC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:59 EDT Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Burton Subject: Thanks... To: lightwave-l@netcom.com In-Reply-To: <9504241525.0LNRB00@valley.megalink.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone on the list who replied to my plea for confirmation that my messages made it to the list. The respose was overwhelming. You have all restored my sanity. Thank you! Scott Burton - Lightwave Moderator - Command Line BBS AJ754@freenet.toronto.on.ca (416) 533-8321 From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 16:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA06791; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:47:09 -0700 Received: from server.globalone.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA06770; Sun, 7 May 1995 12:46:57 -0700 From: davewarner@globalone.net Received: from shell.globalone.net (davewarner@shell.globalone.net [198.69.121.31]) by server.globalone.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA17235 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Image map or object(s)? To: LightWave Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 May 1995, James Brooks wrote: > I would like to here from others (that is what this list for, right?) on > what you all do....which route do you all take? > What I have done is removed a good number of image maps off the objects and > created objects that looks very much like them by hand in MODELER! > Is it better that way or use image mapping? Weird question, huh? > > I understand that image mapping is great and to get the closest > to 'real life' look. Well, there are certain instances where there is just no substitute for image mapping, but if you can get away with a modeled object instead of an image map then go for the modeled object every time...especially with the memory constraints of only having 16megs! (Image maps usually use up much more memory than polygons) There is no right or wrong way of doing this stuff...it's all relative to the way you think. If you think the microwave looks better with a modeled control panel, then that's the "right" way of doing it....and hey, if you happen to save some memory in the process, then that's good too! Personally, I start with whatever requires the least amount of work...and then if I start running out of memory due to overuse of image maps, I'll go back and elliminate the image maps and replace them with modeled objects, whenever possible. -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics "Psi Corps is your friend...trust the Corps" From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 18:47:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA03537; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:09:01 -0700 Received: from hkg.hkg.ingr.com by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA03515; Sun, 7 May 1995 18:08:51 -0700 Received: by hkg.hkg.ingr.com (5.65c/1.921207) id AA25954; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:09:53 -0500 From: steven@hkg.hkg.ingr.com (Steven Davis) Message-Id: <199505081409.AA25954@hkg.hkg.ingr.com> Subject: re: image map or object To: lightwave-l@netcom.com (LightWave Mailing List) Date: Mon, 8 May 95 9:09:52 CDT Reply-To: steven@hkg.hkg.ingr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > I would like to here from others (that is what this list for, right?) on > what you all do....which route do you all take? > What I have done is removed a good number of image maps off the objects and > created objects that looks very much like them by hand in MODELER! > Is it better that way or use image mapping? Weird question, huh? I usually use image maps as much as possible, for speed. Why over-complicate a scene, you can not usually tell the difference if you create the geometry or use an image map. > Just say for instance, I am touching up on my microwave object. > I used a image map of the control panel. But I come to realize that I can > create that as a object as well and to me it looks better! If you want to model the geometry because you feel it better, you can do this. for example the MicroWave control panel, model it, move the camera to face it so it fills up the screen, render to an image, clip the image, and then use this image as the map. > > I understand that image mapping is great and to get the closest > to 'real life' look. You can image map with pre-rendered details. I do this often for windows, door, etc.. Saves alot of memory, and decreases render time. > Good day > Alex SD. From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 19:34:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA02065; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:01:03 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA01941; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:00:19 -0700 From: Joseburgos@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA287097604; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:00:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:00:04 -0400 Message-Id: <950507185919_110295759@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Cc: lightwave@webcom.com Subject: Into the Light Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, The April issue finally shiped out. All subscribers should see there issue's this week. May is in editing and should be layed out and printed this week with it being mailed out by the 13th. Thanks, ********************************************** Jose Burgos JD Media Inc. Home of "Into the Light" (Intolight@aol.com) 262 92nd Street Brooklyn, NY 11209 718-836-2821 Joseburgos@aol.com Computer Graphic Imagery ******************************************************* From owner-lightwave-l Sun May 7 19:38:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA05861; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:39:07 -0700 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA05836; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:38:55 -0700 From: Joseburgos@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA091679927; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:38:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:38:47 -0400 Message-Id: <950507193844_110332745@aol.com> To: jamesb@clark.net Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com, lightwave@webcom.com Subject: Re: Image map or object(s)? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk >I am now just about putting the finishing touches on my 'Apartment' project >in the Kitchen section. I have notice I have been using a lot of surfaces >in my project and it is taking up a lot of memory. I was thinking that >I can replace the surfaces with objects where I was image mapping >using a paint program but that adds to my SURFACE list! Oh well, >something has to give. :-/ I map only what ethier can't be modeled or shoulded be modeled. Like on your micro-wave, I would model the buttons if in my scene if the camera will be passing though them. An image map won't allow that. Other wise I would image map the buttons like you did. The only other reason I would model the buttons would be if I'm selling the object. What can't be modeled? One easy example would be wood. I mean you could if you nuts or something and still it would'nt look as good as mapping it :) Now to your problem. What I do very often is split up my animation and composite it later. If your kitchen is the background of your anim. and only a few items move, then render what does'nt move and save it. Make it your background image in the effects menu. Then render your animation with only the moving parts. This will save loads of render time. Many profesional outfits animate this way. If you look at your scene you can most likely break it up to fit the above method. If it's a still and not an animation then compositing is the easy answer. An animation might take some re-thinking to mach this technic but you can render very large scenes and render them much faster. Later, ********************************************** Jose Burgos JD Media Inc. Home of "Into the Light" (Intolight@aol.com) 262 92nd Street Brooklyn, NY 11209 718-836-2821 Joseburgos@aol.com Computer Graphic Imagery ******************************************************* From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 05:58:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA28948; Sun, 7 May 1995 21:09:16 -0700 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA05317; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:33:08 -0700 Received: from mcbones (ip061.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.61]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with SMTP id OAA01764; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:33:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:33:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199505072133.OAA01764@mailhost.primenet.com> X-Sender: djmccoy@smtp.primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lightwave-l@netcom.com From: djmccoy@PrimeNet.Com (Daniel J. McCoy) Subject: Mailing List Donations - A Response Cc: toaster-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I want to thank everyone for their volunteering to help pay for the mailing lists. It's greatly appreciated. I've been silent on this matter and have been thinking about it for the past few days. It's has been difficult coming up with a decision on how to handle this. Especially when I didn't volunteer to run the mailing lists for anything outside of helping keep the great information flowing and hope to see more wonderful objects, image maps, tips and more appear on FTP sites and available to all. Though I hadn't anticipated the workload of maintaining the lists, I don't reqret volunteering. Now that the mailing lists have been moved to Webcom and the message archives sit on Tomahawk (thanks Keith!), my outlay for the lists is considerably less. Couple that with my eventual Netcom and BIX account closures and I've got no worries. I HAVE gotten some benefits though! I want to thank Michael Meshew for sending me LightRom Vol 1 a while back. I STILL haven't looked at all of it! :) I think I feel much more comfortable sharing though. Perhaps as payback, that more objects, textures, plug-ins, tutorials and more could be made publically available no matter how small. I have just as much fun as everyone else checking out the methods used for object and scene creation. It shows just how work I have in store for me! :) I'm still unsure but at the moment, thanks everyone! I'll keep it in mind but in the meantime, keep on enjoying the lists. Dan From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 09:07:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA22274; Mon, 8 May 1995 08:30:20 -0700 Received: from pine.liii.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA14113; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:48:07 -0700 Received: from rowan.liii.com by pine.liii.com with SMTP (5.67b/15Feb94-Long Island Information) id AA20905; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:52:08 -0400 Received: by rowan.liii.com (5.67b/15Feb94-Long Island Information) id AA19076; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:49:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:49:19 -0400 (EDT) From: louie To: "Daniel J. McCoy" Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com, toaster-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Mailing List Donations - A Response In-Reply-To: <199505072133.OAA01764@mailhost.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk As a relatively new subscribe would it be possible to post the ftp address releated to this group? If not to much trouble.... Thanks, Louie From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 09:16:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA23519; Mon, 8 May 1995 08:38:27 -0700 Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA23508; Mon, 8 May 1995 08:38:24 -0700 From: djmccoy (Daniel J. McCoy) Message-Id: <199505081538.IAA23508@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: Reminder - We have a new home! To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 08:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: toaster-l@netcom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1960 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Just a reminder to those still posting to this mailing list and those that have joined since I posted the messages a few days ago. Both the LightWave and Video Toaster/Flyer mailing lists are moving to a new home. If you have already subscribed to the mailing lists at the new location, send this message to the appropriate trash can. :) If you haven't subscribed to the mailing lists at their new home, I suggest you do. The subscription databases won't be moving. It's a good way to flush out bad addresses. :) Here's the subscription information: Send e-mail to the address listed below depending on which version of the list you wish to received. In the body of the message, include: subscribe end is completely optional and can be used to subscribe an address other than the one you are posting from. Don't include the brackets. LightWave3D Mailing List ------------------------ Non-Digest - lightwave-request@webcom.com Digest - lightwave-digest-request@webcom.com Video Toaster/Flyer Mailing List -------------------------------- Non-Digest - toaster-request@webcom.com Digest - toaster-digest-request@webcom.com Those of you unsure which to subscribe to, the non-digest mailing list sends you each message as they are received and processed. In digest form, these messages are kept for up to 7 days and THEN sent to you in one large message. If your mailbox has quotas, the digest mailing list may be the way to go. Please direct all non-subscription postings to either toaster@webcom.com or lightwave@webcom.com. You may also wish to unsubscribe from the mailing lists on Netcom by sending e-mail to "listserv@netcom.com". In the body of the message, include "unsubscribe lightwave-l" or "unsubscribe toaster-l". Thanks and have fun, Dan -- Daniel J. McCoy BIX: dmccoy Internet : djmccoy@primenet.com, djmccoy@netcom.com, dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 10:40:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA08704; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:48:30 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA08692; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:48:25 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa04252; 8 May 95 13:48 GMT-60:00 Received: from hanger.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa07397; 8 May 95 13:48 GMT-60:00 Received: by hanger.demon.co.uk (V1.16/Amiga) id AA0009y; Mon, 8 May 95 12:44:41 GMT Date: Mon, 8 May 95 12:44:41 GMT Message-Id: <9505081244.AA0009x@hanger.demon.co.uk> Return-Receipt: darren Return-View: darren@hanger.demon.co.uk Organization: PandGImaging X-MailViewer: Mail 1.15 From: Darren Priestnall To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: VMM Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the correct VMM setting's for Lightwave ? The software seems to lock while setting up RGB buffers when rendering. -- ~===========================================================================~ Darren Priestnall - darren@hanger.demon.co.uk (PandGImaging) Connecting via Demon Internet, Finchley, London, N3 1TT. Tel: 081-349-0063 -- Full IP Connectivity for a 10 UKP per month - no usage/online fees!! -- From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 11:34:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA13908; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:26:31 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA13891; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:26:24 -0700 From: RRinkewich@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA156709604; Mon, 8 May 1995 09:26:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:26:44 -0400 Message-Id: <950508092642_110868616@aol.com> To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Upgrade? Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I'm new to this list, and must have missed some of the comments about the $149.00 upgrade. Can someone please explain this to me? Thanks. Rob Rinkewich From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 11:01:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA07776; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:39:48 -0700 Received: from clark.net by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA07770; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:39:43 -0700 Received: (jamesb@localhost) by clark.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id GAA06039; Mon, 8 May 1995 06:42:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 06:42:08 -0400 (EDT) From: James Brooks To: Steven Davis cc: LightWave Mailing List Subject: re: image map or object In-Reply-To: <199505081409.AA25954@hkg.hkg.ingr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Steven Davis wrote: > > I would like to here from others (that is what this list for, right?) on > > what you all do....which route do you all take? > > What I have done is removed a good number of image maps off the objects and > > created objects that looks very much like them by hand in MODELER! > > Is it better that way or use image mapping? Weird question, huh? > > I usually use image maps as much as possible, for speed. Why over-complicate > a scene, you can not usually tell the difference if you create the geometry > or use an image map. Hmm, I have to wonder. Of course with MORE OBJECTS in the scene mean MORE POLYGONS to render but to me it seems have a different look and looks better. Plus, I am planning on getting fairly close to the objects in my project. > > > Just say for instance, I am touching up on my microwave object. > > I used a image map of the control panel. But I come to realize that I can > > create that as a object as well and to me it looks better! > > If you want to model the geometry because you feel it better, you can do this. > for example the MicroWave control panel, model it, move the camera to face > it so it fills up the screen, render to an image, clip the image, and then > use this image as the map. Now this is something I have to learn more about and that is 'clipping'...if I am using the term correctly. Just to be sure, with the image map that I already have on the control panel of the microwave IMPORT the microwave over to the modeler and use the image map as a guide? { There are always those little things I forget that I can do to make my life easier. This is one of them. } > > > > I understand that image mapping is great and to get the closest > > to 'real life' look. > > You can image map with pre-rendered details. I do this often for windows, > door, etc.. Saves alot of memory, and decreases render time. Does this also go for what I have mentioned above? Have a good day. Alex --------------------------------------------------------------- James "Alex" Brooks Amiga 4000/040/28MHz 20MB RAM Lightwave 3.5 / Imagine 3.0 VideoToaster 4000 3.1 Syquest 3.5" 270MB Bernoulli 90Pro NEC 3xp Triple Speed CDROM Warp Engine 4028 Epson ES-600C Scanner E-Mail: jamesb@clark.net -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 14:13:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA08049; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:54:04 -0700 Received: from wabash.iac.net by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA08026; Mon, 8 May 1995 05:53:55 -0700 Received: by wabash.iac.net id IAA11389; Mon, 8 May 1995 08:52:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Hoffmann To: davewarner@globalone.net cc: LightWave Mail List Subject: Re: Image map or object(s)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk You hit on one of my peeves with LW (and there are not many). I used to use Caligari a lot, and found their image mapping (including UV mapping) superior. For instance, I made a grid of 64 squares, each with their own image mapped on (these were sizable images). I was able to render this scene in 9 MB! The image maps alone had to be about that much! Wassup wid dat?!? In LW, I seem to need bigger maps to look good (i.e., antialiasing of images not as clean) and they take over memory. So, in LW I also go for the modeled object when I can, and use small, seamless texture maps where I want so more "real world" texturing. ------------------------------------ my sig! ------------------------------ | I brew the beer I drink! # This sig has been cruelly | | Try the Ohio Valley Amiga Users Group # tested on furry little animals. | | home page --> http://www.ovaug.org # http://iac.net/~ehoffman | On Sun, 7 May 1995 davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > On Sun, 7 May 1995, James Brooks wrote: > > > I would like to here from others (that is what this list for, right?) on > > what you all do....which route do you all take? > > What I have done is removed a good number of image maps off the objects and > > created objects that looks very much like them by hand in MODELER! > > Is it better that way or use image mapping? Weird question, huh? > > > > I understand that image mapping is great and to get the closest > > to 'real life' look. > > Well, there are certain instances where there is just no substitute for > image mapping, but if you can get away with a modeled object instead of > an image map then go for the modeled object every time...especially with > the memory constraints of only having 16megs! (Image maps usually use up > much more memory than polygons) From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 18:27:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA09454; Mon, 8 May 1995 17:36:47 -0700 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA23231; Mon, 8 May 1995 14:46:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 14:46:45 -0700 From: shf (Stuart Ferguson) Message-Id: <199505082146.OAA23231@netcom2.netcom.com> To: dan@acti.com Subject: Re: Pack your bags! We're moving to our new home! Cc: lightwave-l Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Well, with the move to a new list this looks like an ideal time to let my subscription to this list lapse. As much as I enjoy listening to feedback, questions and even gripes, I don't have time to read this list, sort through personal mail and read the newsgroup. So I will be leaving this list. I will continue to read the newsgroup, and my mailbox is always open. Thanks to all for the interesting and worthwhile discussion and keep spreading the word! - Stuart Ferguson From owner-lightwave-l Mon May 8 20:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA06553; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:15:42 -0700 Received: from corpse.ecst.csuchico.edu by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA06250; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:17 -0700 Received: (from alang@localhost) by corpse.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA07056; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Adam B. Lang" To: t.taylor4@genie.geis.com cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Dual Pentium Question In-Reply-To: <199505052248.AA134594108@relay1.geis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk I know Windows NT is supposed to be able to tread tasks with multi-processor systems like alot layout to one processor and modler to another. I would like to know is any body with a Dual Pentium has acctualy done this, i.e. render out something in background with one processor and model something at the same time with anonther. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Adam B. Lang -- WWW at http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~alang | | e-mail : alang@ecst.csuchico.edu - Voice Mail : 916-244-5035 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5 May 1995 t.taylor4@genie.geis.com wrote: > Is anyone out there running a dual Pentium System with lightwave? My > Dual P100 is on the way. I'm getting 48Mb RAM and I'm wondering if > that will be enough to let one CPU render while the other runs > modeler. > > For any having problems finding Lightwave, I've got one copy on the > shelf and two more on the way. $775 +SH > > Tank Taylor > Vision Imaging > From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 9 02:52:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA26260; Mon, 8 May 1995 22:09:41 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA05335; Mon, 8 May 1995 21:02:50 -0700 Received: by mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #20) id m0s8gMf-000DKXC; Mon, 8 May 95 22:53 CDT Received: by oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu id 0VZ6B017 Mon, 08 May 95 22:45:44 From: alan.chan@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Message-ID: <9505082245.0VZ6B01@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu> Date: Mon, 08 May 95 22:45:44 Subject: RE: PACK YOUR BAGS! WE'RE To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk > Well, with the move to a new list this looks like an ideal time to > let my subscription to this list lapse. As much as I enjoy > listening > to feedback, questions and even gripes, I don't have time to read > this list, sort through personal mail and read the newsgroup. So I > will be leaving this list. I will continue to read the newsgroup, > and my mailbox is always open. Thanks to all for the interesting > and > worthwhile discussion and keep spreading the word! > > - Stuart Ferguson Godspeed Stuart! May your debug sessions be shorter than your render times! AC From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 9 08:43:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA26252; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:53:20 -0700 Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA26244; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:53:18 -0700 From: djmccoy (Daniel J. McCoy) Message-Id: <199505091453.HAA26244@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: Daily Reminder - We're Moving! To: lightwave-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 07:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: toaster-l@netcom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2119 Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk Just a reminder to those still posting to this mailing list and those that have joined since I posted the messages yesterday. Both the LightWave and Video Toaster/Flyer mailing lists are moving to a new home. If you have already subscribed to the mailing lists at the new location, send this message to the appropriate trash can. :) If you haven't subscribed to the mailing lists at their new home, I suggest you do. The subscription databases won't be moving. It's a good way to flush out bad addresses. :) Here's the subscription information: Send e-mail to the address listed below depending on which version of the list you wish to received. In the body of the message, include: subscribe end is completely optional and can be used to subscribe an address other than the one you are posting from. Don't include the brackets. LightWave3D Mailing List ------------------------ Non-Digest - lightwave-request@webcom.com Digest - lightwave-digest-request@webcom.com Video Toaster/Flyer Mailing List -------------------------------- Non-Digest - toaster-request@webcom.com Digest - toaster-digest-request@webcom.com Those of you unsure which to subscribe to, the non-digest mailing list sends you each message as they are received and processed. In digest form, these messages are kept for up to 7 days and THEN sent to you in one large message. If your mailbox has quotas, the digest mailing list may be the way to go. Thanks and have fun, Dan PS - Please post all new messages to the new mailing list addresses (lightwave@webcom.com or toaster@webcom.com). If you wish to no receive these reminder posts, please unsubscribe from the lists by sending e-mail to listserv@netcom.com. In the body of the message, include: unsubscribe toaster-l or unsubscribe lightwave-l If you have a different address, include that after "toaster-l" or "lightwave-l". I give the mailing lists on Netcom another week or so. -- Daniel J. McCoy BIX: dmccoy Internet : djmccoy@primenet.com, djmccoy@netcom.com, dan@acti.com From owner-lightwave-l Tue May 9 11:54:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA15895; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:11:17 -0700 Received: from cello.QNET.COM by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA15444; Mon, 8 May 1995 23:08:41 -0700 Received: by cello.QNET.COM (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s8iVe-0003xBC; Mon, 8 May 95 23:11 PDT Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 23:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Manuel Coats X-Sender: mcoats@cello To: "Daniel J. McCoy" cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com, toaster-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Reminder - We have a new home! In-Reply-To: <199505081538.IAA23508@netcom22.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-lightwave-l@netcom.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 May 1995, Daniel J. McCoy wrote: > Just a reminder to those still posting to this mailing list and those that > have joined since I posted the messages a few days ago. Both the LightWave > and Video Toaster/Flyer mailing lists are moving to a new home. How long will the old mailing lists be active for? Once they aren't, if somebody tries to subscribe to them, will they get a message stating that the mailing lists have changed locations? Manny