Xref: ghost.dsi.unimi.it comp.lang.smalltalk:2627 news.answers:3448 Path: ghost.dsi.unimi.it!batcomputer!caen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!agate!xcf.Berkeley.EDU!latta From: latta@xcf.berkeley.edu (Craig R. Latta) Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk,news.answers Subject: Smalltalk Frequently-Asked Questions (FAQ) Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 16 Oct 1992 07:52:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 454 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Distribution: world Expires: 9 Nov 1992 07:53:26 GMT Message-ID: Reply-To: smalltalk@xcf.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: xcf.berkeley.edu Summary: This posting contains a list of frequently-asked questions (and their answers) about the Smalltalk programming language and environment. It should be read by posters to comp.lang.smalltalk. Originator: latta@xcf.Berkeley.EDU Archive-name: smalltalk-faq Last-modified: 1992/10/1 Version: 2.1 *** This is a Smalltalk frequently-asked-questions (FAQ) sheet, distributed by Craig Latta (latta@xcf.Berkeley.EDU). It is posted fortnightly to the USENET newsgroups comp.lang.smalltalk and news.answers. It is also available via ftp as anonymous@xcf:misc/smalltalk/FAQ/FAQ.entire. Finally, it can be obtained by mail by emailing smalltalk-request@xcf with the subject line "request for FAQ". The machine xcf.Berkeley.EDU has IP address 128.32.138.1. The FAQ answers these questions: [Meta-issues] How can I browse ftp sites and their data without using my own disk space (unless I want to keep data), and locate files on ftp sites, given pathname fragments? [Archival] How can I get GNU Smalltalk? What Smalltalk archives are there? [Projects] What is Smallmusic? [References] Can someone recommend a good introduction to Model-View-Controller concepts? Is there a Smalltalk bibliography? Please send contributions to smalltalk-request@xcf.Berkeley.EDU. Raw FAQ submissions (which I have not yet incorporated into this document) are available (in 'mh' message format) via 'ftp' as anonymous@xcf.berkeley.edu:misc/smalltalk/FAQ/raw/*. Comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated. I realize that information has a short half-life. Disclaimer: I am an employee of ParcPlace Systems, Inc., but I am solely responsible for this FAQ and its contents. In August, I solicited comments about the appropriateness of my maintaining and posting this FAQ. The feedback I got was unanimously approving. Thanks, -C *** +++ [Meta-issues] --- Q: How can I browse ftp sites and their data without using my own disk space (unless I want to keep data), and locate files on ftp sites, given pathname fragments? A: This question might seem tangential at first (and I suppose it is). But it is vitally important, as resources such as papers, documentation, code and software tools become more numerous and distributed. There is a set of Emacs-Lisp ("elisp") code, called "ange-ftp.el", which makes 'ftp' use transparent within GNU Emacs (GNU Emacs is available via anonymous ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu). This package attempts to make accessing files and directories using FTP from within GNU Emacs as simple and transparent as possible. A subset of the common file-handling routines are extended to interact with FTP. Using these routines, one is able to access remote files and one would any other local file, without having to write it locally to disk. The result is an immense virtual global filesystem. The routines are available via anonymous ftp (naturally!) as tut.cis.ohio-state.edu:/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/as-is/ange-ftp.el.Z, (incidentally, if you already had "ange-ftp.el", you could paste the above line in response to Emacs' 'copy-file', stick "/anonyous@" in front of it, and copy the file.) My current version is dated 22 October 1991. Another useful bit of elisp is "context.el". It saves the Emacs buffer list and window configuration between editing sessions. So, one can have several buffers, with several files open (as I usually do), quit and restart Emacs, and have the state preserved, cursor locations and windows included. Happily, it works well with "ange-ftp.el", so that even remote files are restored (after possibly having to prompt for passwords). "context.el" is also available via anonymous ftp from tut.cis.ohio-state.edu, as /gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/as-is/context.el.Z. Also look for "tree-dired.el" which provides for hierarchical directory editing. Incidentally, it was very easy to produce references for the above tools, thanks to another tool called "archie", developed at McGill University. Dubbed a "resource discovery tool" by its authors, it comes in very handy when one knows what tools are needed but not their availability. Archie consists of a server for this information (basically from a database of directory trees from "all known" anonymous ftp sites, updated once per month), and a client, which may be run via 'telnet' from the server machine itself (frowned upon...), or from a standalone client available from that machine (...highly encouraged, for the considerable host load win). Some clients even perform ftp tasks based on user response to search results. There are clients available for dumb and X terminals as well as for (of course) Emacs. Poke around archie.mcgill.ca for a client and documentation. Porting these tools (or at least new interfaces to them) to Smalltalk would be a great project. I'm working on it in my spare time. I'd love to hear from any interested people. -Craig --- +++ [Archival] Q: How can I get GNU Smalltalk? A: The most current location, to my knowledge, is anonymous@prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu/smalltalk-1.1.1.tar.Z. Please direct problems to the author, Steven Byrne, at sbb@eng.sun.com. --- Q: What Smalltalk archives are there? A: There are many. Most of them simply archive GNU smalltalk, but there are also a few large archives containing many interesting and varied sources. All of the sites may be retrieved by invoking 'archie smalltalk' (see above reference to 'archie'). For convenience, descriptions of a few of the archives follow. If you have a site/announcement you'd like included, please let me know. ** Directory: anonymous@xcf.berkeley.edu:misc/smalltalk Summary: Smalltalk FAQ, smallmusic discussion archive. ** Host: mushroom.cs.man.ac.uk Summary: The Manchester Smalltalk archive. Information about it is posted regularly to comp.lang.smalltalk. ** File: anonymous@st.cs.uiuc.edu:pub/Index Summary: Information about the UIUC Smalltalk archive (which has local files and a mirror of the Manchester archive). ** File: anonymous@ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu:pub/st80/README Summary: Information about various Smalltalk-related offerings, including the Musical Object Development Environment (MODE). --- +++ [Archival] Q: What is Smallmusic? A: A work group has formed to discuss and develop an object-oriented software system for music. The current environment is Smalltalk 80. The email address for the group is smallmusic@xcf.Berkeley.EDU. If you are interested in joining the discussion, email smallmusic-request@xcf.Berkeley.EDU, with the subject line "add me". The abstract and outline to a recent version of our working paper follows. The document is available via ftp as anonymous@ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu:pub/st80/OOMR6.t. Thanks, Craig Latta latta@xcf.Berkeley.EDU *** Abstract to the working document This document describes an object-oriented description language for musical parameters, events and structures known as the Smallmusic Object Kernel (SmOKe) . In object-oriented software terms, the representation is described in terms of software class hierarchies of objects that share state and behavior and implement the description language as their protocol. The authors believe this representation, and its proposed linear ASCII description in Smalltalk-80 syntax, to be well-suited as a basis for: (1) concrete description languages in other languages, (2) specially-designed binary storage and interchange formats, and (3) use within and between interactive multi-media, hypermedia applications in several application domains. --- +++ [References] Q: Can someone recommend a good introduction to Model-View-COntroller concepts? A: ~From: ege@blitz.fiu.edu (Dr. Raimund K. Ege) ~Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk ~Subject: Re: MVC -- good introductions? ~Date: 8 Mar 92 18:26:40 GMT Organization: Florida International Univ. Look at Chapter 10 in the following book that just came out: Programming in an Object-Oriented Environment, by Raimund K. Ege Academic Press, Inc., San Diego, CA, 1992, hardcover, ISBN 0-12-232930-9 To order call 1-800-321-5068. (also: Academic Press Limited, London, United Kingdom) It presents a complete and thorough introduction to all object-oriented concepts. It contains a large example/case study, and a comparison of major OO programming languages. In addition, the book extends the object-oriented view to all elements of the programming environment: data structures and algorithms, programming tools, user interfaces, data bases and software design. Chapter 10 is on user interfaces: it describes and illustrates the Smalltalk MVC paradigm (also: InterViews) -- Raimund K. Ege School of Computer Science Florida Int'l University ege@scs.fiu.edu (305) 348-3381 University Park ege@servax.bitnet FAX (305) 348-3549 Miami, FL 33199 ** ~From: asmundvn@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Nils Erik Asmundvaag) ~Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk ~Subject: Re: MVC -- good introductions? ~Date: 11 Mar 92 10:56:38 GMT Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept. The book Smalltalk-80: A Practical Introduction (ISBN 0-273-03105-8) by Philip D. Gray & Ramzan Mohamed, 1990 and published by Pitman (at least in the UK) contains two chapters on interactive applications and the MVC. I found it very helpful when first learning about the MVC. Nils E. Asmundvaag -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nils Erik Asmundvaag University of Glasgow, Scotland asmundvn@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk asmundvn@uk.ac.glasgow.dcs ** ~From: bruce@utafll.uta.edu (Bruce Samuelson) ~Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk ~Subject: Re: how are st80 views and controllers used? ~Date: 12 Mar 92 14:12:48 GMT Organization: UTexas at Arlington, Linguistics There are two papers on MVC that provide an introductory overview of the pre-version 4.0 ST80 scheme. Much of what's in them also applies to version 4.0. I understand that one of PPS's priorities in the forthcoming version 4.1 will be improved documentation. We'll see how well they explain the new windowing scheme launched in version 4.0. It would certainly be helpful to get an overview of what's going on before plunging into the source code of the myriad new classes. (1) A Cookbook for using the Model-View-Controller User Interface Paradigm in Smalltalk-80 by Glenn E. Krasner and Stephen T. Pope, ParcPlace Systems, copyright 1988. (2) Applications Programming in Smalltalk-80: How to Use Model-View-Controller (MVC) by Steve Burbeck, Softsmarts, Inc., copyright 1987. The first paper may still be in print. Try info@parcplace.com. The second paper is probably no longer available. I think Softsmarts is the company that used to sell a version of Smalltalk for 80286 machines but went out of business some years ago. The phone number on the paper is listed as 415-327-8100 (Palo Alto, California). You may try asking ParcPlace (or, less likely, Digitalk) if they have copies of Burbeck's paper. -- ********************************************************** * Bruce Samuelson Department of Linguistics * * bruce@ling.uta.edu University of Texas at Arlington * ********************************************************** --- Q: Is there a Smalltalk bibliography? A: There are many... here is one: ~From: schultz@grebyn.com (Ronald Schultz) ~Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk ~Subject: Smalltalk Relevant Texts ~Date: 10 Jan 92 16:08:05 GMT Organization: Grebyn Timesharing A list of Smalltalk-relevant texts. Retrieved from the Digitalk forum on Compuserve. If you know of any additional texts, please let me know. Thanx. ========================================================================== Ron Schultz Berard Software Engineering, Inc. Columbus Ohio Office Headquarters 5634 Claire Court 301 Lakeforest Drive Dublin, Ohio 43017 Gaithersburg, Md. 20877 Phone (614) 798-0295 (301) 417-9885 FAX (614) 798-0296 (301) 417-0021 ========================================================================= Smalltalk 80 The Language, Adele Goldberg & David Robson Addison-Wesley 1989 ISBN 0-201-13688-0 Smalltalk 80 The Interactive Programming Environment, Adele Goldberg Addison Wesley 1984 ISBN 0-201-11372-4 Smalltalk 80 Bits of History, Words of Advice , Glenn Krasner Addison Wesley 1984 ISBN 0-201-11669-3 Inside Smalltalk Volume I, Wilf Lalonde & John Pugh Prentice Hall 1991 ISBN 0-13-468414-1 Inside Smalltalk Volume II, Wilf Lalonde & John Pugh Prentice Hall 1991 ISBN 0-13-465964-3 Object-Oriented Graphics, P. Wisskirchen Springer-Verlag 1990 ISBN 3-540-52859-8 Practical Smalltalk: Using Smalltalk/V, Dan Shafer and Dean A. Ritz. Springer-Verlag ISBN 0-387-97394-X Rapid Prototyping for Object Oriented Systems, Mark Mullen Addison Wesley 1990 ISBN 0-201-55024-5 Object-Oriented Design, Peter Coad and Ed Yourdon Yourdon Press 1991 ISBN 0-13-630070-7 Object Oriented Programming for Artificial Intelligence, Ernest Tello Addison Wesley 1989 ISBN 0-201-09228-x The Well Tempered Object, Stephen Travis Pope MIT Press 1991 ISBN 0-262-16126-5 RefTalk/Vwin, David Carl O'Neal NuVista Press 1991 ISBN pending Human-Computer Interface Design Guidelines, C. Marlin Brown Ablex Publishing 1989 ISBN 0-89391-332-4 Designing Object-Oriented Software, Rebecca Wirfs-Brock, Brian Wilkerson, and Lauren Wiener Prentice-Hall 1990 ISBN 0-13-629825-7 Object Oriented Programming with Smalltalk/V, Dusko Savic Ellis Horwood 1990 ISBN 0-13-040692-9 An Introduction to Object Oriented Programming & Smalltalk Lewis Pinson & Richard Wiener Addison Wesley 1988 ISBN 0-201-19127-x SAA Common User Access Advanced Interface Design Guide IBM 1989 IBM Document # SC26-4582-0 IBM Red Books----(available from your IBM representative contact your local office of IBM and request the placing of an IBM Red Book Order. If you are an IBM customer, the books are free. If you are not an IBM customer, the books may have a nominal fee.)---- A Practical Introduction to Object Oriented Programming IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3641 Object Oriented Design - A preliminary Approach IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3647 Developing a CUA Workplace Application IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3580-00 Managing the Development of Object Oriented Applications IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3581-00 Object Oriented Analysis of the ITSO Common Scenario IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3566 CUA Evaluation IBM 1990 IBM Document # GG24-3456 SAA CUA '91 Guide IBM 1991 IBM Document # SC34-4289 SAA CUA '91 Reference IBM 1991 IBM Document # SC34-4290 SAA - A Guide for Evaluating Applications IBM 1991 IBM Document # G320-9803 --- End of Smalltalk FAQ