Abduction Digest, Number 31 Thursday, October 31st 1991 Today's Topics: Re: abductions abductions Re: abductions Re: abductions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 23 Oct 91 05:37:00 GMT In a message to Doug Rogers <10-20-91 01:01> Sue Widemark wrote: SW> >false on the face as you have done cannot go unchallenged. SW> . SW> It has been observed by psychologists that people who have a SW> religious orientation tend to deal with disability and age better SW> than those who don't. Also, Bill W., the founder of AA makes a SW> rather impressive case that atheistic beliefs caused alot of his SW> problems. People who join AA and embrace the Deistic orientation SW> tend to deal with their lives better than they did before joining. But, of course! They are so well hypnotized. The same can be said of people on Thorazine! AA gives STRUCTURE, as does religion. Nothing really wrong with that, particularly since the average IQ is 100 (a tautology, I know! :-) All you got to do is joing this neat family of people who will listen to you, nurture you, and understand your terrible problems with reality. Besides, if you believe it's a disease, then it really isn't your responsibility anyway. Only problem is when these folks demand everyone else pop these Thorazine pills, too. Frankly, I';d ratehr be kidnapped by a grey. -- Michael Schuyler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@p1.f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: abductions Date: 25 Oct 91 23:12:00 GMT MS> But, of course! They are so well hypnotized. The same can be said MS> of people on Thorazine! AA gives STRUCTURE, as does religion. Sure, along with the military, prison, and the Fortune 100. MS> Nothing really wrong with that, particularly since the average IQ MS> is 100 (a tautology, I know! :-) All you got to do is joing this MS> neat family of people who will listen to you, nurture you, and MS> understand your terrible problems with reality. Besides, if you MS> believe it's a disease, then it really isn't your responsibility MS> anyway. Only problem is when these folks demand everyone else pop MS> these Thorazine pills, too. Frankly, I';d ratehr be kidnapped by a grey. Does this have anything to do with abductions or abduction research? If alcoholism, drug dependency, deism, and/or diminished responsibility have a high profile in abduction reports/regressions, I'd love to see some evidence. If not, I hope we can leave the railing about pill-pushing to the Scientologists. Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@p1.f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 27 Oct 91 22:56:00 GMT In a message to Michael Schuyler <10-25-91 16:12> Clark Matthews wrote: CM> a grey. CM> Does this have anything to do with abductions or abduction research? CM> CM> If alcoholism, drug dependency, deism, and/or diminished CM> responsibility have a high profile in abduction reports/regressions, CM> I'd love to see some evidence. CM> CM> If not, I hope we can leave the railing about pill-pushing to the CM> Scientologists. Clark, To get a full sense of my post you might want to page back and see what it is a response to, then you might go a little easier on me. I suppose this has as much to do with abduction research as my dealings with the NIS have to do with UFO research, which you have asked me to elaborate on. Cheers, --Michael -- Michael Schuyler - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Rogers) Subject: Re: abductions Date: 26 Oct 91 02:26:18 GMT > . > I didn't feel your message was attacking at all. I have > expressed the fact that what I posted was my impression > from the books I had read. I am interested in reading the > 'other side' and would be interested in your presenting > some evidence to refute what I have stated. > What you have stated are your unsubstantiated opinions. How am I to refute them? Your response still lacks specific evidence. I would suggest that any "evidence" based on an unprovable "belief system" is going to be called suspect by any scientifically based researcher, myself included. It is not my place to "refute" a charge which has had no evidence presented. Your citation to the AA founder is an interesting account of another single person's experiences. It does NOT show basis in fact. -- Doug Rogers - via FidoNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG ****************A**B**D**U**C**T**I**O**N****D**I**G**E**S**T******************* Submissions UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!abduct Submissions DOMAIN abduct@scicom.alphacdc.com Admin Address abduct-request@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ****************A**B**D**U**C**T**I**O**N****D**I**G**E**S**T*******************