³C²B JUSTIFYING STOLEN DATA'S "THE SCENE THAT WAS"³A²A



By ³D²CJudge Drokk of ANARCHY³A²A

 This  is written as an "²HOpen Letter²A" in reply to the article in issue six
of LSD's Grapevine entitled "Was that realy the scene?".  Firstly I would
like  to make it quite clear that I have no less respect for for Parasite
for  writing  the  article, or to Grapevine or LSD in general and have no
grievencies about the article whatsoever.  If I am prepared to write what
may  appear to some as being "contrevercial matierial" than I should also
be  prepared  to  answer any critisisms that may uprise from it.  Someone
who  cannon justify his own words should not make tham in the first place
should he?

 Before  I  begin  I  would like to make clear a couple of facts about the
Flashback  section, firstly the Flashback is made in realtime, this means
that I write it when I receive the news, and slowly builds up, snippet by
snippet,  line  by  line  over  a  period of 2 to 3 months.  Secondly the
Flashback  is an openly admitted "²HTongue in cheek²A" and "Fun" look back at
the  scene,  these  two  phrases  mean that it is not "Serious".  Certain
things  are  made  "larger than life" not always by me, but usualy by the
people who supply the news items that go together to make the final page.
The  reason I have made theses two points very clear will become apparent
when you read the rest of this article.  So without further delay...


"²IThe  Hulmerist²A  (of Slipstream) joined Equinox too, obviously Slipstream
wasn't enough to satisfy him (do they satisfy anyone?)."

 I  received the this news directly from The Hulmerist himself, he told me
his  reasons  for  joining another group, which were that Slipstream were
inactive  and  "didnt  have  its  act  together".   Shortly after joining
Equinoxe he left Slipstream, making it his only group.  At this time they
also  lost  some  other  members,  and were responsible for an unprovoked
attack  on  Anarchy  in their trainer of Zarathrusta, where they made the
bold  statement  "²IDo you know that Dan resources all Andi's code and that
Mediator  buy  all  his source from Andi?²A" This "out of the blue" slander
came  shortly  after  the release and popularity of Madness II and System
Violation.   During  this  time  Slipstream had released nothing for many
months  and  had nothing on the horizon, so it seemed that they made this
accusation  to  capture  some light for themselves during theie low spot,
this  hardly  helps  the scene and is just what the U.K scene can do with
out.  This is all water under the bridge now Slipstream has changed since
and as such are a better group for it.


 "The  once respectable ²IIpec Elite²A slipped further into oblivion when they
went into cooperation with no-hope lamer group "Relay"."

 I thought this was a valid statement at the time, Ipec Elite used to be a
powerful  international  group that would never have formed a cooperation
with  a  small  mostly unheard of group.  Ipec Died (for whatever reason)
shortly  afterwords.   This is one instance where I would like to clarify
that  Flashback  is built over a long period of time.  At the end of this
time  (Eg.  the release of Stolen Data) some groups my have changed, this
is true in this case.  Relay has improved, but this does that mean that I
should go back through the topics of the prevoius three months and change
what  were  THEN  facts.   Your right Parasite, Relay are doing some nice
stuff but they wern't then, Which is when I wrote wrote what I did.


"²IDual  Crew²A  gained an English member called "Red Devil", he used to be a
member of Pendle Europa (English guys will find this funny)."

 Correct  me  if I'm wrong but surely Pendle Europa not being able to hold
onto  someone  that  is above gutter lever is funny?  You seemed to think
that  this  statment  was  an  insult to Red Devil.  It wasn't.  Its like
saying  "Azatoth tried to get into Pendle Europa but they wouldnt let him
in",  then  he  joined  Phenomena  and  made  the current No.1 Mega Demo.
People  (and  Azatoth  himself) would look back and laugh and say "What a
laugh!   And  to think I tried to join Pendle Europa!" I'm sure that when
Red  Devil  looks  back  he  laughs  too, laughs at the past and what has
developed  since.   Laughs about the fact theat he joined Pendle and that
as  soon  he  realised  what  Pendle  was and what he was he escaped them
forthwith.   Having  seen the video made by Eclypse of the Digital I know
that Parasite find's Pendle Europa a source of amusment too.


"²ICrack UK²A had their application to join "Unity"
 (²Jthe UK friendship movement²A) Turned down."

 It  was explained that Unity had no connection with the "Friendship", but
this  was  after this statment had been written, and at that time "the UK
friendship  movenment"  was  the  easiest way to describe what Unity was,
rather than to go into great detail, describing Unity as a "UK Friendship
movement" instantly told the reader the type of outfit it was.


"²IEmpty²A  was kicked from Anthrox, but told his contacts he had left of his
own accord."

 I  wasnt  being  biased  towards one persons story here in case anyone is
thinking that.  I was asked by a member of Anthrox two weeks before Empty
was  kicked  if  I  swapped  with him, and how often he replied to me.  I
didnt give these questions any afterthought until a few days later when I
spoke  to  Mystik.  He had been talking to Mungo/Anthrox who had told him
that  they  were  going to throw out Empty.  I then realised why they had
been asking questions about him several days earlier.  Shortly after this
I  received a letter from Empty in which he said he had left Anthrox, and
was looking for another group.



"²IBirdy²A  (Ex.Ipec Elite) became Bod of Digital, a different name but still
as lame."

 Lameness  can  take  many  forms,  in this case it comes from spreading a
preview  of  a  demo  by a coder who at that time had just joined Anarchy
(Critical Mass).  The preview in question was not for the public eye, and
contained  many  original idea's and effects not to mention many hours of
hard  coding,  totaly shot up shit creek by this guys total stupidity and
amazing  capability  to  annoy.   Calling  this guy "lame" was an extreme
injustice.  Its the scene that misses out due to people like this.



"²ILSD²A left UNITY (the UK Friendship Movement)"

I  read  in  the scroller of an LSD compact "LSD are no longer mambers of
Unity", so I wrote what any normal person would.


"²IFlash  Production UK²A split up, Paradroid and Magic Mushroom tried to get
into  every  group in England and failed, so Flash UK was brought back to
life."

 This  was  written  after  ²IParadroid²A  asked  if they could join Anarchy, I
mentioned  to  some guy (who shall remain namless) that they had asked to
join us, he gave me the information that they had also tried to join many
other  groups apart from us but had been turned down.  I didnt lie when I
wrote  this  news, if it is incorrect then it is the fault of the guy who
supplied it to me.



"²ILSD's  Grapevine²A  was  released at the beginging of September with a "UK
only"  chart, which proved to be not a true representation of the Quality
of  English  groups  but  just  how low people can go to get a vote.  The
chart  was  originaly  set  up  as  a "Unity" chart, (Unity being the now
defunct  UK  Friendship  movement)  and the entire chart was covered with
Unity (when the chart was released ..Ex Unity) members.  Best group LSD!,
Wow look!!, Were No.1!!  But dont they run the chart?  Who's was the Best
BBS?   The  Best Musician?  and who got into the top three of every other
catagory  too?   Yep LSD!  NO!, I'm not claiming "FIX!" all I'm saying is
that  if you you thought that the Eurochart was irrespective of accending
order  of  talent,  you  should read this...  Its a right pile of fucking
shite!!"


As  I  made  very clear in the above text I was ²JNOT²A claiming fix, point I
was  making  was  that  was  that  the  outcome  of  the  chart was not a
representation of the accending order of talent in the UK scene, but more
of a "Mirage", caused by the inabilaty of voters to think about what they
are  being  asked  rather  than  just  voting  for  there  "mates".   The
votesheetes  were  spread by one set of guys and LSD published the chart.
Both of which made high entries in all catagories, This is a fact, but it
is  the fault of the voters not the publishers.  So LSD didnt collect the
votes  or  count  them but they were the publishers of the chart and were
known  by  every one to be so, so to the voter it made no difference.  By
they  way,  how  did  you feel about including the vote collectors in the
chart?    Wouldnt  excluding  these  have  been  the  same  as  excluding
yourselves  now?   Almost  everybody puts themselves in their first chart
though,  we  did  it,  even the ²KCrusaders²A did it once.  Now you dont, for
whatever  reason,  weather your counting the votes of not, neither do we,
and  the  Crusaders  stopped too.  No problemo!  The reason we started to
make  the  Stolen  Data chart an Anarchy-only opinionated chart was quite
simple  (and  does  not  make  it  a  "load  of  fucking  shite"...  just
different!)
 There  are  lots  of  charts,  all  voted  for  by  lots  of people, all
different,  and  then  theres  the Eurochart, which is unquestionably the
biggest  and  most voted for.  We thought it would be an interesting idea
to  made  the  Stolen  Data  chart  OUR  opinion.  If people want to vote
for  a chart, then there are plenty to do that in and if they want to see
the  Stolen  Data  teams chart then they look in Stolen Data.  Variety is
the  spice of life and in this tradition we thought we'd add a little and
make the Stolen Data chart that bit different.  This also prevents people
from  accusing  you of fixing a chart, because undoutably it IS!  One big
fix!   We  fixed every name on every catagory!  (He He!) Anyway, thays my
justification of what I wrote in the Flashback section of Stolen Data #7.
Wether  you  think  I  wrote things I shouldnt have done is up to you, if
anyone  else  has  ANY opinion on this (negative or possitive) I would be
most  happy  to  hear  it.  Although I'm afraid I cant promise a reply on
this grand scale!  By the way, if this had been printed in stolen data it
would have only covered 1.86 pages! An interesting fact!.....

                         ³D²CJudge Drokk!³A²A