~::::Press RETURN::::` : : ~ * ` : The Alamo! ~ *** ` : ---------- ~ ** ** ` : ~ ** ** ` : ~Sysop: Axe Man` ~ ** ** ` : ~ ********* ********* ` : ~ ** ** ` : V21 300 Baud ~ ** `THE ALAMO~ ** ` : ~ ** `BBS~ ** ` : A Free Message ~ ** ** ` : And File Transfer ~ ** ** ` : System. ~ ********* ********* ` : ~ ** ** ` : Written By Stephen Jones. ~ ** ** ` : ~ ** ** ` : Hours: 24 Hours 7 Days ~ *** ` : ~ * ` : ~What is your name?`Tony Wills ~ From?` Wellington Tony Wills from Wellington ~You are a new user.` ~Is this correct (Y/N)?` Y ~::::Welcome to The Alamo::::` ~Press J at the Command? prompt to Join.` Your privilege: 0 - guest Time limit: ~45 min.` Access to: ABCDEFGIJKLMNORUYZ You've called 0 times. The last was NONE. You've left 0 msgs. Last msg you read was #770 Logged at ~12:21.23` on Wed 26 Aug 1987 Messages 1 to 770 0 new messages. Checking for mail to you... You have received no mail ~Command?` b ~::::Information menu::::` 1 - About The System. 2 - The First Bulliten Board 3 - The Student Hacker 4 - Computer Expresions 5 - Jokes Thanxs -=* Gerry *=- 6 - The Top Ten Singles 23/8/87 ~What is your choice?` 1 The Alamo is run on a Commodore PC with a Twenty Megabyte Hard Drive. ~What is your choice?` 2 The First Bulletin Board The first BBS came on-line in 1978, when two members of CACHE (Chicago Area Computer Hobbyist Exchange), Ward Christensen and Randy Suess, decided to set up a computerized message machine. They Called it a computerized Bulletin Board System and trademarked the acronym CBBS in conjunction with their software. The system allowed club members to communicate with each other by placing messages and want ads on the system. Later, two fwllows by the name of Craig Vaughn and Bill Blue Creadted bulletin Board software for the very popular Apple computer. Bill Blue went on to develop a very user freindly BBS called the People's Message System (PMS). Bill Abney wrote his first (and most widely distributed) bulletin board software for the Raido Shack TRS-80, called "Forum 80." ~What is your choice?` 3 The Student Hacker I considered myself a Student Hacker, and if someone had asked me why I was hacking, this is what i would have said: "I come home from a typical day in school, wishing they would actually teach me someting - get me intrested. I throw my homework on the floor flip on my terminal, and do over the list of accounts I've acquired. I have access to a dozen or so systems ranging from two-thousand-dollar college computers to multibillion-dollar corprate systems. I decide i'll start the day out with a DEC-10 in Nabraska ... it has four or five games on it I like to play. "If I decide I can stop work long enough to attend school, at best I am disappointed by the amount and level of anything I learn during those 'wasted' hours. More likely, though, I will complain about the repetition of it all: 'You told us that yesterday','This is just useless review', or 'Let's get on with it already!' "After getting an account on a new system, I will spend as many hours as possible on that system - twenty or twenty-four hours at a time on one account, if the system is something that I havent already seen before, or if it has programs or text that intrest me. I need learn as much as I possibly can: not only everything about the computer it self, but everything about the data, too. Students are bright, and they are bored. They are smart enough to know they have a lot to learn, and what intrests them most is what they can find out next. As the name implies, this is a stage from which one can only graduate by finding out how to graduate. BY the end of a typical day, a Student may have visted several computer systems whose total hardware value could of been in the tens of millions of dollars, and he may feel that he has learned twice as much in one day as he has during the entire school year. Bill Landreth 'The Cracker' ~Command?` ? ~::::The Alamo Menu::::` B Library of bulletins C Page sysop for chat D Doors system I Include only some sections F File transfer menu J Join: become a member L Leave a message N New messages M Read mail to you P Change Password R Read messages R- Read reverse RS Read search-string S Section names ST BBS statistics T Time left TS Change terminal size TT Set your terminal type U Show recent users V View list of users X Exit: Log off ~Command?` v ~::::The Alamo users::::` The Ace from Wellington, Atari The Shuriken from Ak, C64 Spike from Freak City, Commodore 64/Amiga Master from Wainuiomata, -Compucolor Axe Man from The Alamo, C64/PC Pamela Freeman from J'ville, c64 Dad from Timberlea, Amiga 500 Aaron from Wellington, NEC Phil Hayward from Wellington, C64 Sysop from The Alamo, -C64/PC Hieatt from Wellington, Epson QX-10 Conrad Bullock from Newlands, Commodore 64 or DHL 1000 Model 3 or Compaq Deskpro 386 Guy from Featherston, commodore 128 Cosmac from Wellington, C128 The Baron from Mirror, Amstrad PCW 8256 Brian Hunter from Wellington, C128D Freebooter from The High Seas, pc John from Wellington, 128d Kris Spurling from Ruboard, IBM AT compat Peter Lowe from Wellington, Redstone Edward Kingswood from Wellington, Amstrad 464 Gerry Macridis from Wellington, Amstrad CPC464 Stephen Jones from Wainui, Amiga 500 Peter Howard from Auckland, c64 Nosilloc from Wellington, Apple //e The Vulcan from Software City, Amstrad PC 1512 HD20 Richard Donaldson from Silverstream, IBM PC CLONE David Wilson from Upper Hutt, Macintosh Wayne Rossiter from Nowhere, c128d(efective) Martin Freeman from Johnsonville, 64 The Bear from A Large, Well Lit, Airy Cave, Amstrad 6128 Ron Wilson from Wellington, clone at Darren Cheung from Wellington, AMIGA 1000 Phil Smith from Wainuiomata, C64 Fred from Wellington, Amstrad 8512 Keith Archibald from Wellington, c128 Catherine Duthie from Karori, BBC Peter Mccarroll from Lower Hutt, Commodore 64 Bernadette Mooney from Auckland, COMMODORE 128!!! Eddy Tryselaar from Taita, Commodore C64 Fuzz from Kelson, C= 64 Kenneth Coe from Linden, C-64 ~Command?` u ~::::The Alamo User Log::::` ctrl-P to stop, ctrl-S to pause The Ace from Wellington Atari 11:12.52 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 11:34.01 The Ace from Wellington Atari 10:27.48 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 11:12.22 The Shuriken from Ak C64 9:41.18 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 10:15.04 Spike from Freak City Commodore 64/Amiga 9:18.18 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:39.42 Master from Wainuiomata -Compucolor 9:17.17 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:18.00 Axe Man from The Alamo C64/PC 9:16.07 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:17.10 Master from Wainuiomata -Compucolor 9:14.30 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:15.56 Axe Man from The Alamo C64/PC 9:12.01 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:14.23 Axe Man from The Alamo C64/PC 9:08.44 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 to 9:11.12 ~Command?` j You are now making an application for membership onto the B.B.S. If you want to use an assumed name, then log on again under that name. Make sure you tell me your real name, or your application will not be accepted. When you have finished, please leave a message to the SYSOP telling me a little about yourself. When you next log on, you will be asked for a password. Enter the password you will use below DON'T FORGET IT!!!!!!! What password will you use? xyzzy The following question won't affect the operation of the bulletin board. It is only so other users will know. What computer are you using? Amiga 1000 How many columns does your terminal have (RETURN for 80)? Your phone number will be confidential. What is your contact phone number? 877-258 Press return (blank line) if "Tony Wills" is your real name. This information will be kept confidential. What's your real name? You have now been added to the user files, and when your application is accepted you will be a member, and have write access to the sections. Axe Man. Tony Wills from Wellington password: Xyzzy computer: Amiga 1000 phone: 877-258 If this is not correct, type J at the command prompt ~Command?` f ~::::FILES::::` ? for menu ~File func?` l Sections to list (RETURN for all, ? for help)? Filespec (RETURN for *.*)? ~Directory of C:\BBS\FILES\` ~ FILENAME SEC BLOCKS DESCRIPTION` SCROLLING TUT(C) 59: C64 demo, use joystick port 2 to move.. Cosmac... HENDRIX (C) 54: C64, King of Guitar Jimi Hendrix MAX HEADRROOM(C) 49: C64 demo, different to one aready on here. Cosmac... LIGHT FANTASTIC(C) 146: Graphic/Music Demo using muzic of Syth Sample THE PACER (C) 58: C64 demo not to bad Cosmac..... TRACKFIELD (O) 130: ATARI game BLUES.BAS (O) 14: Blues music program (basic) SECTORBUSTER (O) 22: One of The Ace's favourite Copiers X-PIC (C) 100: X - Demo The Shuriken IBALL (C) 60: A Demo - 2nd time lucky - Biffed Up by The Shuriken MISTER-MISTER(D) 96: AN INTERESTING TEXT FILE. RAINBOW.ARC (A) 29: Rainbow coloured workbench for the insane AMSMAG.TXT (Z) 5: A note on using xmodem for amswell mag CALENDAR.BAS (G) 9: A basic prog for gwbasic or locomotive basic - Prints year's calendar. FIJI.TXT (Z) 98: An interesting and provoking article picked up from gvt computer sys. AMSWELL.TXT (Z) 7: file for amswell magazine CHROME DEMO (C) 114: See for yourself,I'm to buggered to write this out A BURNING NOTE!(C) 32: A Small Demo for the 64 ,Biffed Up by The Shuriken (The Fifth Dimension) TALKY-TERM (A) 4: AmigaBASIC terminal wot TALKS! (OH MY GOD) SJ WAITASEC.COM (I) 6: Uses scroll lock to pause a file. UNDEL.COM (I) 17: To unearse files. PR.COM (I) 15: Prints standard ASCII files. NPAD.COM (I) 9: Creates an on-line note pad FREE.COM (I) 3: Reports number of unallocated bytes. DOS-EDIT.COM (I) 5: To allow screen editing push up arrow to start DISKSCAN.COM (I) 8: Finds disk errors. DELZ.COM (I) 6: Deletes a file for good. DDIR.COM (I) 7: displays directory in double column. BROWSE.COM (I) 8: To browse at a file with out a WP. BAC.COM (I) 11: To Back-up a Directory ATTR.COM (I) 5: Display & modify the file attributes MOON BASE ALPHA(Z) 150: A game for the Amstrad. [G.M.] LYNX (C) 198: To use when you upload a multi-load program puts them into on and take take out COBRA (C) 55: Cobra!!! METAL2 (C) 169: Iorn Madien Graphix 2 Brill. METAL (C) 126: Iron Madien Grapix TRANSPUT (C) 134: Brillant Music and Graphix Demo. MAX (C) 48: It's M-M-M-Max Headroom FACE (C) 9: The Face of '85 TERMINAT (C) 35: The Terminator KILLER (C) 26: The Killer 1541 DIRK (C) 24: Dirk Bogart JUNO (C) 32: Graphix DOSS (C) 188: A COMMUNCATIONS PROGRAM...DISK. COMMS.64 (C) 51: commucations program for the commodore 64 MONOPOLY (C) 193: A game of Monopoly for the '64 in BASIC. LIGHT STROBE (C) 3: I really cool light dtrobe program. To be used in total darkness.(SPIKE) COMMS CODES.1(Z) 150: IF TELE CODES DOSENT WORK TRY THIS ONE. HYPERCODE (C) 18: A Very sinple en/decoder for the '64 (SPIKE) REPORT.TXT (N) 416: A report on the Space Shuttle disaster [G.M.] FALCONS (C) 112: Noui picture+music for the C64, from CBSP TARG.COM (I) 63: Target Talk comms prg. 1200/75 + dial SETUP.EXE (I) 13: SETUP for Bureaucr BUREAUCR.EXE (M) 68: Bureaucracy main prog. Space: 8416K 67328 blocks ~File func?` r Which text file to read? fiji.txt Philosophy is a mental tool to help people understand their environment and create other tools to alter it to meet their needs. Each social class has developed a philosophical system that gives logical explanations for the way it modifies the environment and its relations with other groups and classes. Marxism/Leninism is the philosophy class conscious workers and their allies use to explain what is happening in every part of the universe including the activity of men and women in the societies without which our species could not exist. The first thing noted when looking at events in Fiji is that the struggle for power to govern did not involve the masses of either of the ethnic groups that make up the bulk of the Fijian population. From this they conclude that the military coup was not one aimed at reconstructing society to use the tools at its disposal more efficiently but was one between Fijian tribal chiefs and other sections of the ruling class for the powers needed to appropriate a bigger proportion of the profits from the exploitation of all workers. It soon became clear that Fijian tribal chiefs feared that their social and economic status was threatened, and that they could be reduced to a similar status as that of their Maori and Kanak relatives or Australian Aborigines. As the struggle developed its real economic base began to show through. The chiefs realised that the changed power relationships could threaten their ability to collect rents for land used in the production of sugar and other businesses. But development of the sugar industry and its associated business activity had effectively transformed the majority of ethnic Fijians into wage earners working to enrich capitalists based in Sydney, Wellington, London, New York and elsewhere, and changed their attachment to the land from a compelling economic necessity to a sentimental one. The total population of Fiji is a little less than Auckland's, Most of them live on two of the 800 islands that make up a country somewhat smaller than Hawke's Bay. The majority of the total population are descendants of Indians imported last century to work in the sugar industry. Most are wage earners working for the sugar companies that grew and prospered under the wing of British imperialism. In the course of time some have become professional people, tenant farmers, and small businessmen. But foreign money is the real power in Fiji. Six banks, including the B.N.Z., have branches in every important centre. To maintain and extend its power to exploit the country and its people, finance capital helped create the racist constitution which perpetuated tension between Fijians and Indians, effectively preventing the development of a united working class pledged to make Fiji truly independent, freed from the domination of foreign finance capitalists who exploits ALL workers. The non-violent philosophy that is widespread among Indian workers also makes it difficult for workers to unite in the struggle. Marxist philosophy suggests that if we are to gain a real understanding of the events in Fiji we should look at these economic forces that were active when the low ranking colonel, Rabuka, led the coup against the recently elected government. If we do this we find that the world-wide economic crisis was creating tensions between different sections of the ruling class over the division of the profits generated by the wages system. To ensure the continuous generation of profits, finance capital has bought the loyalty of Fijian tribal chiefs, using some of their income from sugar and other business activities for this. They have also given their support to the government of the Fijian' political representatives. But today other issues have intruded onto the Fijian stage. In their struggle with Russia for world domination American capitalists are claiming the whole Pacific basin as their exclusive zone of economic and political influence. The election of a government based on the Indian community and a policy of non-alignment has prompted more or less open American intervention in Fiji's internal affairs in support of the putshist Rabuka. My next talk will examine the role of the Lange Government in these struggles. The basic philosophy of Social Democracy, of which the New Zealand Labour Party is a part, is that national interests supersede those of individuals, economic groups or classes. It follows from this that governments must create conditions in which classes can collaborate in the national interest. The state forces must therefore be used to make it difficult for individuals, groups and classes to pursue policies not sanctioned by statute law. It sees laws made by governments as the only effective means to adapt social relationships to cope with ever changing conditions. Disagreements with other political parties arise when the laws they enact do not produce these results. In practice this means that Social Democratic parties including the New Zealand Party, always see the interests of the classes who own the means of production and make the rules for their use as those of the nation as a whole. I have found this rather long introduction to try to make the following analysis of the posturing of the Lange Governments in the Fiji crisis understandable. As in all colonies, the interests of the local population of Fiji were catered for by men and women using comparatively small capital in their businesses. These supplemented the activities of British, Australian and New Zealand financiers who monopolised the principle industries based on the production of sugar and coconuts. To preserve business profitability foreign investors have gone to considerable lengths to prevent Indians and Fijians uniting to gain the powers of self-government. Inevitably a movement for independence grew as locally based small scale businesses increased in number and economic importance. However the independence movement was prevented from realising its full potential when it accepted a racist constitution that came into effect in 1970 and provided for a parliament divided between native Fijians and the Indian community and a minority of other races. British Imperialism undertook its supervision. Under the protection of this constitution which seemed to give them powers of government in perpetuity, Fijian Tribal chiefs have become a section of the local ruling class. They have used their position to preserve their social status and the wealth gained from renting land to people of all races. But the inter racial balancing act crystallised in the constitution fell apart and the powers of government passed to Fiji's Indian businessmen with minority working class support. Feeling their position threatened the Fijian section of the ruling class has used its representatives among army officers to depose the recently elected Indian majority government. In doing so they proved a Marxist philosophical point that in a class society all power comes out of the barrel of a gun. In these conditions the Lange Government has played its social democratic cards class to its chest. It knows that POLITICAL power grows out of the barrel of a gun. It is also aware that that power cannot exist in an economic vacuum. It is also aware that the finance capitalists of the rest of the world are in contention with the Soviet Union for political and economic domination of the whole Pacific basin, including Fiji. In this struggle Lange has shown that Labour Party sympathies lie with the established imperialist powers with which New Zealand capitalists acts as a junior partner. After news of the crisis broke Prime Minister Lange declared the Government's opposition to the Coup, claiming to support the constitution and the powers of the Governor General. The decline of British imperialism as a world power became clear when the Governor General's pleas were ignored. The claim that the coup was engineered by America's C.I.A., whose agent was in Fiji soon after the election also became credible. Throughout the crisis Mr. Lange has expressed the social democratic hope that the conflicting forces in Fiji would get together and resolve their differences amicably in the national interest. There can be no question of his sincerity, but the ineffectiveness of the class collaboration philosophy demonstrates that, in the real world, pacifist policies always assist imperialists, never the those oppressed by it. File func? l Sections to list (RETURN for all, ? for help)? ? ~::::Available sections::::` A: Amiga B: BBS Systems C: Commodore 64/128 D: Debating E: Private E-MAIL F: For Sale & Other Ads G: General computing I: IBM & Clones J: Joke des Tages K: Puzzles & Games L: High level languages M: New members' messages N: Non-computer general O: One-liners and pointless replies R: Reviews U: Unabridged Abuse Y: Your comments on the system Z: Z80 systems ~Sections to list (RETURN for all, ? for help)?` a Filespec (RETURN for *.*)? ~Directory of C:\BBS\FILES\` ~ FILENAME SEC BLOCKS DESCRIPTION` RAINBOW.ARC (A) 29: Rainbow coloured workbench for the insane TALKY-TERM (A) 4: AmigaBASIC terminal wot TALKS! (OH MY GOD) SJ Space: 8416K 67328 blocks ~Command?` ? ~::::The Alamo Menu::::` B Library of bulletins C Page sysop for chat D Doors system I Include only some sections F File transfer menu J Join: become a member L Leave a message N New messages M Read mail to you P Change Password R Read messages R- Read reverse RS Read search-string S Section names ST BBS statistics T Time left TS Change terminal size TT Set your terminal type U Show recent users V View list of users X Exit: Log off ~Command?` tt SET TERMINAL TYPE: - - ASCII A - ANSI V - VT-52 T - C64 VIPterm C - Compucolor S - Amstrad |terminal Which terminal are you using? ANSI ~Command?` st ~::::The Alamo Statistics::::` Please wait... First message number: 1 Last message number: 770 Total messages left: 722 Number of BBS callers: 577 Number of registered users: 42 ~-=*=- TOP TEN MESSAGE LEAVERS -=*=- -=*=- TOP TEN CALLERS -=*=-` # 1: Master 140 msgs # 1: Sysop 198 calls # 2: Pamela Freeman 132 msgs # 2: Pamela Freeman 42 calls # 3: Sysop 74 msgs # 3: Master 38 calls # 4: Hieatt 62 msgs # 4: Cosmac 34 calls # 5: Cosmac 55 msgs # 5: Gerry Macridis 32 calls # 6: Spike 33 msgs # 6: Stephen Jones 22 calls # 7: Gerry Macridis 30 msgs # 7: Edward Kingswood 22 calls # 8: The Ace 30 msgs # 8: Conrad Bullock 22 calls # 9: Conrad Bullock 25 msgs # 9: Spike 21 calls #10: Stephen Jones 24 msgs #10: Wayne Rossiter 15 calls ~Command?` t Logged on at: 12:21.23 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 Present time: 12:40.42 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 Time left: 26 minute(s) ~Command?` r Start at which message (1-770)? 750 MSG #750 - Section G: General computing 7:56.20 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Pamela Freeman to: Dad re: #736 - DAD is BACK Wow really great to seee your name again - speaking of meaningful drinkinjg have you heard/read about this drinking contest between me and Axe Man???? We are at present trying to decide what to drink I say Vodka he says beer what do you think????? Pamela {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? ? F)orward a msg to another section/user K)ill this message E)dit this msg Read O)riginal msg (which this one is a reply to) A)nswer/reply to this msg P)revious msg (go backwards) N)ext msg after this one R)ead replies to this msg Q)uit reading messages V)iew this message again RETURN:read the next message {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #751 - Section D: Debating 8:00.01 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Pamela Freeman to: Spike re: #674 - Burp Spike don't worry about them, smile I still love ya!! Which reminds me I amVERY depressed because this must be about the 60,000th time I've logged on and had NO msgs from you - I must warn you this could lead to devestating results - I may kill myself because of the lack of you - sounds exciciting huh!!! Pamela (replies: #757) {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #752 - Section N: Non-computer general 8:14.58 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Pamela Freeman to: All re: msg 666 Read our Satanic msg (by the way just to keep Axe Man happy when saying our I refer to all board users!!!!!) Pamela (replies: #768) {P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #754 - Section G: General computing 8:24.45 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Axe Man to: Gerry Macridis re: #369 - ? Where does he live? {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #756 - Section O: One-liners and pointless replies 9:21.08 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Spike to: Hieatt re: #688 - YOU !!!!!!! It waz the one where Rick was watching a program on T.V called "Nozin A'roun!" About 'young adults'. I've got them all on video... C U C=-+<<>>+-=* {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #757 - Section D: Debating 9:23.39 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Spike to: Pamela Freeman re: #751 - Burp Well, Stop moaning...'eres ya bloody message!!!!! C U C=-+<<>>+-=* {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #758 - Section N: Non-computer general 9:25.16 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: Spike to: Master re: #661 - YOU !!!!!!! Try DeATH Mate... Please? {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #765 - Section D: Debating 10:58.15 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: The Ace to: Master re: #706 - Pepsi If you leave COKE on something rusty overnight it'll be clean by the morning - Powerful stuff Huh! Ps the amiga sounded pretty hot when I called Stephen!! Pitty it lacks MIDI's. MSG #766 - Section N: Non-computer general 11:08.42 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: The Ace to: Master re: #707 - YOU !!!!!!! But with Lange trying so-called 'neutrality' I wouldnt be surprised if we are flying the Lybian flag in a couple of years. 1 aircraft carrier is estimated to be able to take over N.Z. -Our defences are pitiful. eg. We have 13 tanks of which 6 were operational last report I heard (tho a Belgian was coming to look at them) To be serious about neutrality we would have to have compulsary military training like switzerland and have to spend billions on defence. -Also compare trying to defend switzerland with many seperately goverened countries bordering behind massive mountain ranges, to newZealand with water all around and many convenient ports. ie a pact with a power saves us much MONEY and effort and is as, or more effective! {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #767 - Section N: Non-computer general 11:12.00 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: The Ace to: Master re: #707 - YOU !!!!!!! Anyway there is a difference between being able to just walk into a non-defended country without a fight, and being met with resistance - no matter how minimal. {O,P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #769 - Section G: General computing 11:22.04 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: The Ace to: Sysop re: STATS You should include top ten uploaders/downloaders to see who supports the board and who just jews!! (talking about the board statistics of course) {P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? MSG #770 - Section O: One-liners and pointless replies 11:29.27 on Wed 26 Aug 1987 from: The Ace to: Pamela Freeman re: ??? Um, pamela???......what is 'Rev 13:16 - 18' ? -Just curious...... ........ .... ........... .... .................. ................ ............... IIIIIIIIIIIIII {P,N,R,Q,V,?=help} ? ~Command?` ? ~::::The Alamo Menu::::` B Library of bulletins C Page sysop for chat D Doors system I Include only some sections F File transfer menu J Join: become a member L Leave a message N New messages M Read mail to you P Change Password R Read messages R- Read reverse RS Read search-string S Section names ST BBS statistics T Time left TS Change terminal size TT Set your terminal type U Show recent users V View list of users X Exit: Log off ~Command?` d ~::::DOORS MENU::::` Which number? 1 Not on menu ~Command?` s A: Amiga B: BBS Systems C: Commodore 64/128 D: Debating E: Private E-MAIL F: For Sale & Other Ads G: General computing I: IBM & Clones J: Joke des Tages K: Puzzles & Games L: High level languages M: New members' messages N: Non-computer general O: One-liners and pointless replies R: Reviews U: Unabridged Abuse Y: Your comments on the system Z: Z80 systems ~Command?` x Tony Wills logged off at ~12:47.22` on Wed 26 Aug 1987. CLICK...