~iff.fs3 }0a0000oddf1oddf2occf3occf4obbf5obbf6oaaf7oaaf {2{nREPLY TO MR. CLIT (AHEM) IN DEADLOCK 4{1{a }0o99f1o99f2o88f3o88f4o77f5o77f6o66f7o66f0m8de0n8eb0l5370kfff0g8eb {f by: Tango/Destiny {j First of all I would like to say objective. }0ofcb0m8eb0n8de0l5370jd34 that I am quite sure there are many other people out there who thought this article was a wee bit harsh on a lot of the mags on the scene, so I'd just thought I'd pick him up on a few points. I don't really want a slanging match or people saying {l"{nOooh, he's lame{l" {jor all that crap. I just want to sort this out before everyone starts moaning on about various things. Personally after reading this article, I had the urge to make a {msmall bomb{j Right away, his name. {lMr Clit?{j Ah and shove it up this guy's arse, but yes. {mThat all time great.{j Who is I'll be a little better than his this guy? It's the first I've heard ground level comments and try to be of him and if I'm lucky it'll be the last. Perhaps it's a pseudonymn for could last a lot longer. one of the guys already on the scene who doesn't want everyone to know it's {k ----------------------------{j him. It doesn't really matter does {nEurochart #16 / STATIC BYTES{j it? Is this article all a {isick joke{j, {k ============================{j well if it is, it just wasn't funny. {nIf it's serious here's a loooong{j Okay, first warning bell rang when {nreply.... {j he started talking about looking too samey and saying it's lost it. {k--------------------{j {lFamiliarity breeds contempt? {nNaah.{j I {nMcDisk #5 / ALCATRAZ{j think it's called sticking with a {k===================={j tried and tested formula. It's nice to look at and simple to use. If you Right, he didn't say much bad about don't like the charts, then it really this magazine apart from it looks like isn't anything special. What I do a version of {nDeluxe Diskmaster{j. Okay, take exception to is his comment about so that's his opinion about it, but it being a {l"{nsinking ship{l"{j. I don't personally I thought it looked rather agree with this as it could carry on nice so I put it {mAND {jthe rather indefinitely as long as people kept surreal intro on my packs ({mTango Packs{j voting for it. - modest aren't I?). He's entitled to his own opinion and I do agree it As for it becoming worse when the {iCrusaders {jleft, I don't agree with I'll poke hell out of it anyway.... that either, as it has stayed ({min my{j {mhumble opinion{j) much the same as it There's nothing like the direct always was. approach is there? This is somewhat too subtle and calls the majoritory of {k--------------------------{j editors {l"{nthick as pigshit{l"{j and {nSatanic Rites #3 / DESTINY{j {l"{nuseless{l"{j this is not a wise move and {k=========================={j guaranteed to make you popular with most lynch mobs. Okay, so there's a Aaah. A simply superb piece of few editors, and a few spelling writing. I'll leave this one 'till mistakes do happen but not everyone last! takes English at University. Believe it or not, spelling mistakes are just {k------------------------{j that. {iMISTAKES{j. They aren't put {nStolen Data #9 / ANARCHY{j there on purpose to piss the reader {k========================{j off. No matter how good a group is, everyone is only human. Well, in {mDeadlock {jthis time, it appears to be an issue with several {l`Embareasing'.{j Yes, a VERY weak articles having a shot at Anarchy pun. How sad this man is. which was something of a surprise. This wasn't the main offender, but {nNext gripe, please!{j ~iff.fatso }0b537 {a---------------------------------- }0bfcb0o8eb Eternal #1 / BRONX, STAGE + REBELS }2b537 ================================== {b My God, a magazine that actually gets the seal of approval!!! So? Some of the translation is a little dodgy, but I bet '{nMr Clit{b' can't speak French fluently. I've been doing it }0o8de for 5 years ({nand French - oo-er!!{b) and still have trouble over quite a few }0ofcb words. Considering it's a {nfirst issue. {bA lot of effort has been put into the translation and all the articles are legible. }0o5370bfcb0gddf }0gccf {n ---------------------------- }0gbbf {aEuropean Top 20 #2 / EQUINOX }0gaaf {n============================ }0g99f }0g88f {bI would have thought it obvious why }0bfff0ofcb0m8eb0n8de0l5370jd34 {athe {nCRIMEFILE, NEWFILE {aand {nPARTYZONE{a all your fault. After all, it's not icons were in there. When you clicked like you've seen enough bloody text to on them, it told you there wasn't any drive you round the bend is it? of the above and send some in! Lighten up dude, it's only human to There's more chance of people using make a mistake! [My God, some the mouse on pretty icons than reading undertanding? -Ed] a couple of lines in the editorial saying {l"{nSend some stuff in{l".{a I am {k--------------------------{a writing this article a little while {nSatanic Rites #3 / DESTINY{a after {mEuropean Top 20 #3 {ahas been {k=========================={a released. Full use of these examples of {l"{nlazy programming{l"{a has been made What can I say here? Obviously I'm and whoa! what a bunch they are in gonna be biased over my opinion as it the {lCrime- File!!!{a is [was -Ed] my own group, but I'll try and be objective as I haven't Spelling mistakes. Another non-UK succeeded so far.... disk mag. Yet again I'll make my point about {iMISTAKES{a. They're not in {mIssue 3? {a That's really impressive! there to piss you off. It's very easy It's the {l18th November {awhen I'm to mix two letters up, but typing just writing this article and having just a little too fast. Oooh you naughty spoken to our cool manager - {nTantalus{a editor, slap the wrist. It must be - he's just told me it's finished. {jDeadlock #4 was released some time didn't have too many articles. {iWhy?{a before this. That means Mr Clit has They arrived too late. Those that the ability to time travel. Spooky have, have been incorporated into eh? He comments on #3 like he has a Issue 3 ({myou must have read them Mr{a copy right in front of him. BOLLOCKS. {mClit?{a). {lUtter fools for having a{a This sort of comment casts a serious {lrunning theme? {n Naah.{a It's all meant shadow on the whole seriousness of his to be harmless fun. No-one is article and doesn't make him my sacrificed {l[although if I find out who{a favourite person. {mMr. Clit {l is, all this might change{a {l-Ed].{a The disks don't drip blood on Okay, so {nIssue One {awasn't up to the the Amiga. Pentagrams aren't burned standard of {mDeadlock, Playbyte {aor on our forheads. {mIt's F - U - N - !.{a {mGrapevine{a, but SPUD (a brave coder) A novel twist on the usual approach to did an admirable job. It isn't easy diskmags. If you take half the stuff to be original with so many magazines in our mag seriously, then there's going around, but he gave it a shot. something wrong. Agreed, not as It was only the first issue so excuse varied as {nGrapevine{a, but where was lack of decent articles, but there that after a few issues? It wasn't wasn't much support for it. until issue 7 or 8 it became a proper magazine, so give us a chance. }0kfff {n Issue Two {j (coded by KIWI) was much improved in presentation but again, I think {lMr Clit{j has really got a grudge against us as a whole. When SR each other. A few wrote a substantial #2 was released, I had only just number of articles or asked others to some (not mentioning anyone.... ~iff.fs2 Nick!!!). {mMichael of End Of Century{j {m1999 {jhas written some music for Issue 4, while {lTwilight of Digital {j(hi Lee!) wrote some for Issue 3. {nTrue.{j At the time we didn't have many outstanding musicians, but compared to a lot of groups, we are still in our infancy and are constantly expanding, and of course now we have two stunning musicians in {mGermany {jand {mNorway{j. I'm not quite sure what the "{nhave no{j joined {lDestiny {jand was rather pleased. {nswappers{j" comment has to do with As a swapper, I do take pride in being anything. My guess it would be aimed fast and friendly and also enjoy at swappers collecting in articles for getting to know people. As a result, the mag. If people want to write I hope I have made many friends. articles, then they will. Pressuring These friends offer to do things for people into doing it, is the wrong approach and doesn't win votes. `{lcompliments{j' the rest of the magazine. {mWon't have the patience to keep it{j {mup? {j Well, I hope we do. Destiny aim That's lamers for you??? Hang on to be round for quite a long time and just a minute! I think this has gone we'll keep producing our magazine as far enough!!! What's all this about? long as {nTantalus {jis there to organise Pick up a diskmag and put it in your everything and format {lALL {jthe articles Amiga, Mr Clit (that's label upwards, - a task which he insisted on doing and shutter end in first). {lDo you{j himself, as well as running the group {lever read the articles about{j while modem/mail trading - we're a {lfriendship? {j Don't you know what a group organisation and all participate lamer is? In the same issue of in group things. Collecting articles {mDeadlock {jas your article, there is an isn't just a task delegated to the article saying there are loads of swappers. We all do it. different definitions of a lamer. What's yours? Someone who can't code? On a slightly brighter note, we're Someone who can't draw? Someone who glad he liked the graphics. {mNarc {jand can't do music? Come on! Unless you {mHampster{j must be pretty pleased to can do all 3 better than Paradroid, have such high approval. I wouldn't Watchman and Twilight then stop say it's all that's holding the {npicking holes! {j Nothing is perfect, magazine together, but it but we're getting better. {mPractice ~iff.fs3 {jmakes {mperfect {jand we'll still be here you with all those {lBIG {jopinions about long after you've gone. all the diskmags round. There's hundreds of us.... {lWhere are all the other mags?{j {nGrapevine, Deadlock {jand {nPlaybyte {jto name but three. You afraid these people will come looking for you? Don't worry. {lYou've got enough shit{j {lon your hands already. {j This is between no-one else but the article writer and me. If the rest of Destiny want to join in then go ahead. {nCriticism is one thing. Insults are another. {j If you think we're an enormous insult to the UK then give me a ring [{lMr. Clit's {nwelcome to submit a reply{j and tell me yourself. Send me your {nto SR, the contemptible cur -{mEd{j] address if you're brave enough. Just remember though: there's only one of {1{f* FINISH. *{a