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From: Bob Jordan <bjordan@soest.hawaii.edu>

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Somehow I missed the release of Amos 2.0.
I've reviewed the last 900 messages to the list,
but found nothing about upgrading.

I'm still in the dark ages with Amos 1.0.

Can anyone tell me how to get updated?
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From: roger buckley <rogerbu@callnetuk.com>

Hello Bob

On 01-Oct-99, you wrote:

> From: Bob Jordan <bjordan@soest.hawaii.edu>
> 
> -------
> Somehow I missed the release of Amos 2.0.
> I've reviewed the last 900 messages to the list,
> but found nothing about upgrading.
> 
> I'm still in the dark ages with Amos 1.0.
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to get updated?
>osFactory/front.html

Th compiler comes with Amospro2 upgrade Disk,Compiler & an Extras disk

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From: Declan Gorman <decg@gofree.indigo.ie>

As it is quiet lately I thought I would mention that Tony Horgan plugged
my latest AMOS project in his "Synth Studies" series in this months
Amiga Format magazine.  The project in question is a patch editor for
the Yamaha AN1x synthesizer.  For more info check out the mag and
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To tell you the truth, I am pretty pleased about it. :)

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Dear AIO Readers,

Please fill in the Amiga Information Online Survey 1999 if you have ever
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claude=20Heiland-Allen?= <cheilandallen@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi

Does anyone know what is going on with aminet - I can't seem to
access anything (no recent list, no search program, no connection
to aminet.net or de.aminet.net, etc) anymore.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Does anyone know what is going on with aminet - I can't seem to
> access anything (no recent list, no search program, no connection
> to aminet.net or de.aminet.net, etc) anymore.

   The main German site's been hacked, so is offline at the mo.

 us.aminet.net still works, but there aren't any new downloads.


See ya :)
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From: "Wolfgang Böhl" <wboehl@gmx.net>

Hi there,

I´ve been searching the web for a documentation
of the Intuition extension. I´ve downloaded the file
from the Amos Factory but there was only a text file
with a short discription of the commands included.
Do you know where I can get a more comprehensive
documentation?

If there is nothing like that could you tell me how to open
a Screen like 800x800 on my GFX Board (PicassoIV).

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> I´ve been searching the web for a documentation
> of the Intuition extension. I´ve downloaded the file
> from the Amos Factory but there was only a text file
> with a short discription of the commands included.
> Do you know where I can get a more comprehensive
> documentation?
> 
> If there is nothing like that could you tell me how to open
> a Screen like 800x800 on my GFX Board (PicassoIV).

   Well, I've got the complete guide if you need it.

By the way, make sure it's version 1.3a and not 1.3b, because 1.3b is completely full of bugs and all the useful stuff doesn't work...

See ya :)
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I like to use Amos to tinker with the Hardware - for obvious reasons
but how do you go about tinkering with the Hardware directly?
"Amiga-Hacks" at Onelist.com is all about Hacking the Hardware.
30 Members so far and increasing at the rate of about one a day
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> I like to use Amos to tinker with the Hardware - for obvious reasons
> but how do you go about tinkering with the Hardware directly?
> "Amiga-Hacks" at Onelist.com is all about Hacking the Hardware.
> 30 Members so far and increasing at the rate of about one a day
> at the moment. There has already been a help request for the best
> language to use for custom purposes... could it be Amos?!

Weeeelll, its certainly the quickest and easiest way to throw stuff
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From: "GarfieldAtWork" <garfield@dtgrp.com>

>> I like to use Amos to tinker with the Hardware - for obvious reasons
>> but how do you go about tinkering with the Hardware directly?
>> "Amiga-Hacks" at Onelist.com is all about Hacking the Hardware.
>> 30 Members so far and increasing at the rate of about one a day
>> at the moment. There has already been a help request for the best
>> language to use for custom purposes... could it be Amos?!

   >Weeeelll, its certainly the quickest and easiest way to throw
   >stuff together...

      ....and if it is HACKING you want then AMOS directly supports that
      even without trying.  LOL

      Okay.... seriously, AMOS would be great for direct hardware access.
      It supports Poke, Peek, Doke, Deek, Loke, Leek. 
      What more do you need??  

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From: Declan Gorman <decg@gofree.indigo.ie>

Hello All,
  I am looking into adding an online help system to my program but am
have difficulty.  I think the problem has got to do with the way Gui
Help handles multi dimensional arrays, or should that be how it doesn't
handle them.

  The syntax within the amiga guide documentation does not state clearly
that a multi dimensional array cannot be used but the syntax is as
follows 

Gui Help window,display gadget,array address

The example within the documentation is

GAD$(0)="Hello" GAD$(1)="This is a listview" etc.,etc.

Gui Help 1,2,Array(GAD$(0))

So, although the example only demonstrates with a one dimensional array,
does this mean that it cannot handle multi dimensional arrays?

Pietro?  Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>

Hello Declan

On 05-Ott-99, Declan Gorman wrote: [amos-list] Help with Gui Help


> So, although the example only demonstrates with a one dimensional array,
> does this mean that it cannot handle multi dimensional arrays?
> 
> Pietro?  Anyone?

You cannot use multi dimensional arrays.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@golden.net>

On 05-Oct-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>GAD$(0)="Hello" GAD$(1)="This is a listview" etc.,etc.
>Gui Help 1,2,Array(GAD$(0))
>So, although the example only demonstrates with a one dimensional array,
>does this mean that it cannot handle multi dimensional arrays?

Yes.

I'm not sure if the 2.0 GUIX has changed that aspect of it, but 1 dimensional
are de rigeur for now.

Well met and godspeed,
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Hello, all.

I read MP3 files to extract the famous ID3 Tag that contains song name,
artist and so on.
For the moment I load the entire file in memory, using bload and it
works fine except 2 points :
- Some files are really huge (I found some up to 30Mb), so this amount
of memory is needed.
- Loading the entire file is slow, even on a 40x CD reader, even if it
is a "normal" 4-5 Mb file.

I tried to open the file with the random option with one single field
with a length of 255, but it seems that if the last record does not fill
the 255 characters, it seems to be ignored.
I tried a field with a lenght of 1 byte, but it seems that Amos cannot
GET records with a huge record number. GET 1,I with I containing
30.000.000 does not work.

So here is the question:
How can I quickly read the (let's say) 255 last bytes of a given file ?
The file can have *any* size, from 0 to megabytes.

You can download the V1 of the program on my webpage. It is slow and
ugly, but works.
V2 will include an intuition GUI (Thanx Declan) and if we can solve the
problem I asked for, a fast scan.

Thank you by advance for any help !
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From: F1 Software <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 09:53 AM 10/6/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>So here is the question:
>How can I quickly read the (let's say) 255 last bytes of a given file ?
>The file can have *any* size, from 0 to megabytes.
>

Open in 1,"MyFile"
Pof(1)=Lof(1)-255 : Rem Set Position Of File to 255 bytes less the end

A$=Input$(1,255)

Close 1

Print A$ : Rem A$ = last 255 bytes

I hope this is right, i havent used AMOS in a while, too busy messing with C.

Thanks

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Hey, Scott.
> I would love the oppurtunity to re-work the site on another server.
> I wrote it with Perl so it would most likely need a unix server, anybody
> got access to one??

Well, Hypermart (free business hosting) offers 10MB of disk space and full
custom CGI access (Perl4/5). Tripod just recently started offering full
CGI access (Perl5), which is in beta-test. They offer 11MB of disk space.

If it's CGI access that you need, you could try either of these, or goto
Yahoo and search for "free CGI access". And if 10MB of space isn't enough,
then you could always store your archive of messages on another server (or
convert the digest messages from Onelist). :) Anyhow, hope this helps.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>> So here is the question:
>> How can I quickly read the (let's say) 255 last bytes of a given file ?
>> The file can have *any* size, from 0 to megabytes.

> I hope this is right, i havent used AMOS in a while, too busy messing with 

   Well, it looks ok, but if that doesn't work, you could use Sload to load bits of the file, until you get to the right place, it'd be as slow as loading the whole thing, but it wouldn't hog memory

   If needed, I could probably knock something up for you :)

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Hey, Andrew.
>  Say I had an 8bit bitmap (256 colours) stored in memory (chip or fast).
> How would I copy it to an intuition extention screen in a *system
> friendly* way. Kind of like 'Amos Iscreen Copy' except from a memory
bank
> and not an amos screen?

Well, if it was stored in a memory bank, then I'd think you could use some
c2p for copying the bitmap onto the screen. All you'd have to do is obtain
some c2p's (I would recommend Kalms, from Aminet) and modify them to work
from either an asm Procedure or an AMOS Bank (using Call).
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|  _|___|  Webmaster of Parrottsoft, Ltd - http://parrottsoft.tripod.com
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Hey, Andrew.
>  Say I had an 8bit bitmap (256 colours) stored in memory (chip or fast).
> How would I copy it to an intuition extention screen in a *system
> friendly* way. Kind of like 'Amos Iscreen Copy' except from a memory
> bank and not an amos screen?

Well, if it was stored in a memory bank, then I'd think you could use some
c2p for copying the bitmap onto the screen. All you'd have to do is obtain
some c2p's (I would recommend Kalms, from Aminet) and modify them to work
from either an asm Procedure or an AMOS Bank (using Call).

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Greetings, CBATNAM'ers.

Anyone here from the original CBATNAM beta-test team care to see the
latest Dungeon demo (which will be available in a few days)? If so, mail
me and I'll send it to you. If you recall, I implemented some of Kalm's
c2p's (with the help of PAC) which make the Dungeon rock now. Here are the
latest stats:

(Amiga 2000, '040/28mhz, ECS, 64 colors)
8-12fps    Highest detail texture mapping (2x2)
20-22fps   Lowest detail texture mapping  (6x6)

The c2p's are optimized for AGA, so (in theory) an equivalent '040 with
AGA (i.e. A1200/A4000) could get double these frame rates easily. And,
yes, everything is written ENTIRELY in AMOS, except for the c2p graphics
routines, which are Assembler routines used through an Extension. :D

Anyhow, if you want to see the latest demo (when it is finished), please
mail me or Giark, and we will send it to you soon. Thanks again. :)

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>                F1 Webpage: http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk
>                 FTP:  ftp://mushypd.dynip.com/pub/amiga/
>    Contact: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Tel. (717) 367-6210
>                 ICQ #9701389 (Mush)    AOL IM - FishGuy876

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>       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
>         http://mantasoft.tripod.com/       ICQ: 21829166        
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From: "Andy H." <geosync@space.net.au>

Hi Adam,

Yes please.  Send me a copy.  I have an 020 so it will interesting to
see how it runs on that.

Andy H.

>Adam Parrott wrote:
> 
> From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
> 
> Greetings, CBATNAM'ers.
> 
> Anyone here from the original CBATNAM beta-test team care to see the
> latest Dungeon demo (which will be available in a few days)? If so, mail
> me and I'll send it to you. If you recall, I implemented some of Kalm's
> c2p's (with the help of PAC) which make the Dungeon rock now. Here are the
> latest stats:
> 
> (Amiga 2000, '040/28mhz, ECS, 64 colors)
> 8-12fps    Highest detail texture mapping (2x2)
> 20-22fps   Lowest detail texture mapping  (6x6)
> 
> The c2p's are optimized for AGA, so (in theory) an equivalent '040 with
> AGA (i.e. A1200/A4000) could get double these frame rates easily. And,
> yes, everything is written ENTIRELY in AMOS, except for the c2p graphics
> routines, which are Assembler routines used through an Extension. :D
> 
> Anyhow, if you want to see the latest demo (when it is finished), please
> mail me or Giark, and we will send it to you soon. Thanks again. :)
> 
>  ___ ___   Adam Parrott, parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, AKA Axianator
> | . |_ -|  Webmaster of Parrottsoft, Ltd - http://parrottsoft.tripod.com
> |  _|___|  Amiga 2000, '040/28, WB2.04/3.1, 1MB Chip, 32MB Fast, 501MB HD
> |_|
> 
> > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html

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From: "Rick Pezzimenti" <rickp@eisa.net.au>

Yes Please1!!!!! I got an 060 just waiting to make it rock!



> From: "Andy H." <geosync@space.net.au>
> 
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Yes please.  Send me a copy.  I have an 020 so it will interesting to
> see how it runs on that.
> 
> Andy H.
> 
> >Adam Parrott wrote:
> > 
> > From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
> > 
> > Greetings, CBATNAM'ers.
> > 
> > Anyone here from the original CBATNAM beta-test team care to see the
> > latest Dungeon demo (which will be available in a few days)? If so, mail
> > me and I'll send it to you. If you recall, I implemented some of Kalm's
> > c2p's (with the help of PAC) which make the Dungeon rock now. Here are the
> > latest stats:
> > 
> > (Amiga 2000, '040/28mhz, ECS, 64 colors)
> > 8-12fps    Highest detail texture mapping (2x2)
> > 20-22fps   Lowest detail texture mapping  (6x6)
> > 
> > The c2p's are optimized for AGA, so (in theory) an equivalent '040 with
> > AGA (i.e. A1200/A4000) could get double these frame rates easily. And,
> > yes, everything is written ENTIRELY in AMOS, except for the c2p graphics
> > routines, which are Assembler routines used through an Extension. :D
> > 
> > Anyhow, if you want to see the latest demo (when it is finished), please
> > mail me or Giark, and we will send it to you soon. Thanks again. :)
> > 
> >  ___ ___   Adam Parrott, parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, AKA Axianator
> > | . |_ -|  Webmaster of Parrottsoft, Ltd - http://parrottsoft.tripod.com
> > |  _|___|  Amiga 2000, '040/28, WB2.04/3.1, 1MB Chip, 32MB Fast, 501MB HD
> > |_|
> > 
> > > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html
> 
> > Official AMOS WWW: http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html
> 

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From: "floquet" <floquet@hp-sc.univ-lille2.fr>

> From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

> >> So here is the question:
> >> How can I quickly read the (let's say) 255 last bytes of a given file ?
> >> The file can have *any* size, from 0 to megabytes.
> > I hope this is right, i havent used AMOS in a while, too busy messing with
>    Well, it looks ok, but if that doesn't work, you could use Sload to load bits of the file, until you get to the right place, it'd be as slow as loading the whole thing, but it wouldn't hog memory
>    If needed, I could probably knock something up for you :)

Yes setting the file pos pointer works very fine & fast and uses small
memory.
I tried it last evening, wow !
When the program took 2 seconds per file to load it and seek the ID3
tag, it takes... well it's too fast, I can't read the filenames on the
screen !
I did not try with 30Mb files yet, although.

So next week, you will be able to download the new version of the
MP3LIST program. I still have to check 30Mb files, update the .readme
file, create the .lha file...

Lots of features are still missing and a few bugs remaining, but all
this will be soon fixed.

Thanx a lot for those who helped me !
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From: ric0@xs4all.nl

Hi people!

I'm just here for one short question, I couldn't find any information
about it on the Web.

Here at the NOB, a company that provides facilities for broadcasting
companies, we have an Amiga. It's an oldy; Amiga 2000 running KS 1.2.

It's just used for making Weather forecasts for "Jeugdjournaal" (Youth
News). Years ago some programmers made this, IMO nice, program which has
an easy click interface to make a short forecast animation.

The program is written in AMOS. So it probably is an AMOS executible.

The question is: will it suffer from any Y2K bugs?

I've read about the Amiga's Y2K problems (Well... the lack of them ;), but
I also want to check on AMOS. Although this application is not really
using dates or writing files.

Thanks in advance...      

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> ric0@xs4all.nl wrote:
> 
>The question is: will it suffer from any Y2K bugs?

Depends on how it's written but probably not.
You can always check by changing date and "simulate" y2k.

>I've read about the Amiga's Y2K problems (Well... the lack of them ;), but
>I also want to check on AMOS. Although this application is not really
>using dates or writing files.

If the AMOS-program isn't written in a bad way there won't be any problems
and I really doubt that AMOS it self would suffer from y2k bugs since
AMOS hasn't any own commands for date. There are extensions though
with date-functions but as they (probably) read the system-time it won't
be any problems there either.

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On 08-Oct-99, ric0@xs4all.nl wrote:

> I've read about the Amiga's Y2K problems (Well... the lack of them ;)

If you haven't allready, download the patch for 1.2 machines from amiga.com.. 
If I remember correctly those machines will have trouble setting the time/date
after y2k...

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Can anyone tell me how i get off this list ?

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> Argh, how do I get onto ICQ?

1. Get a copy of STRIcq, from Aminet I think

2. Go to the menu item 'Setting/Prefs'

3. Fill the details in, then I think you press 'Save Userinfo Changes' or 'Save password', or is it 'Fill In Userinfo From Server'

   Well, it's one of those buttons anyway :)


> From: Ashley Clarke <ashley@a-clarke.demon.co.uk>

   Hold on, I've just realised, Ashley Clarke, Ashley, Clarke... I've heard that name somewhere before, don't I know you from somewhere, ages ago?
 

See ya :)
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> From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
> 
> Greetings, CBATNAM'ers.
> 
> Anyone here from the original CBATNAM beta-test team care to see the
> latest Dungeon demo (which will be available in a few days)? If so, mail
> me and I'll send it to you. If you recall, I implemented some of Kalm's
> c2p's (with the help of PAC) which make the Dungeon rock now. Here are the
> latest stats:

Id like to have a look at it!

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Lo, everyone.

Well, I've had several responses for the latest Dungeon demo, which I will
be sending out as soon as I can. Some of those who have asked for it are
not from the original beta-testing team, so, unless Giark has any problems
with it, I will go ahead and send the demo to these people anyways.
(Giark?)

BTW, for those who are not familiar with CBATNAM (or "Cap'n Bubba and the
Nasty Alien Menace"), it is an international team project which origniated
on the List over 3 (!!) years ago, but has yet to be finished due to many
factors, two of which are hardware-related problems and lack of code and
graphics. Not all of us have given up, however. :)

The final game will contain the following levels:

1. a Side-scrolling level (Garfield Benjamin)
2. a "Space Harrier"-type level (Kieth Hill)
3. a "Tekken"-type level (Andy Hawkins)
4. a "Wolfenstein"-Dungeon level (me) :)
5. a "Bubble Bobble"-secret level (Peter Cahill/James Brown)

Giark was the original co-ordinator of the project, and Braneloc (Keith
Hill) has since joined him in overseeing the project and assembling the
final bits of code. All that is lacking is my level, some graphics and
some animations. Nevertheless, it WILL be finished, so expect to see it
soon. :D

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> Well, I've had several responses for the latest Dungeon demo, which I =
will
> be sending out as soon as I can. Some of those who have asked for it =
are
> not from the original beta-testing team, so, unless Giark has any =
problems
> with it, I will go ahead and send the demo to these people anyways.
> (Giark?)
> BTW, for those who are not familiar with CBATNAM (or "Cap'n Bubba and =
the
> Nasty Alien Menace"), it is an international team project which =
origniated
> on the List over 3 (!!) years ago, but has yet to be finished due to =
many
> factors, two of which are hardware-related problems and lack of code =
and
> graphics. Not all of us have given up, however. :)


Yes, its running just a little late.  <cough>


http://www.mirex.demon.co.uk/bubba


> Giark was the original co-ordinator of the project, and Braneloc =
(Keith
> Hill) has since joined him in overseeing the project and assembling =
the
> final bits of code. All that is lacking is my level, some graphics and
> some animations. Nevertheless, it WILL be finished, so expect to see =
it
> soon. :D


Actually, a cool new bit, is just what the project needs to kick it to =
completion.  It'll inspire the remaining creative people to finsihing =
the project.  We know who we are.

(PS, apologies for the mime html, but I wanted to put the graphic in, =
and it sends in text format as well...)

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>&gt; Well, I've had several =
responses for=20
the latest Dungeon demo, which I will<BR>&gt; be sending out as soon as =
I can.=20
Some of those who have asked for it are<BR>&gt; not from the original=20
beta-testing team, so, unless Giark has any problems<BR>&gt; with it, I =
will go=20
ahead and send the demo to these people anyways.<BR>&gt; =
(Giark?)<BR>&gt; BTW,=20
for those who are not familiar with CBATNAM (or "Cap'n Bubba and =
the<BR>&gt;=20
Nasty Alien Menace"), it is an international team project which=20
origniated<BR>&gt; on the List over 3 (!!) years ago, but has yet to be =
finished=20
due to many<BR>&gt; factors, two of which are hardware-related problems =
and lack=20
of code and<BR>&gt; graphics. Not all of us have given up, however.=20
:)<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Yes, its running just a =
little=20
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>&gt; Giark was the =
original=20
co-ordinator of the project, and Braneloc (Keith<BR>&gt; Hill) has since =
joined=20
him in overseeing the project and assembling the<BR>&gt; final bits of =
code. All=20
that is lacking is my level, some graphics and<BR>&gt; some animations.=20
Nevertheless, it WILL be finished, so expect to see it<BR>&gt; soon.=20
:D<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Actually, a cool new bit, is =
just what=20
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remaining=20
creative people to finsihing the project.&nbsp; We know who we =
are.</FONT></DIV>
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Just a quick unrelated AMOS question. Does anyone have a layout of a 
Portracker module. Nothing too complex, just the basics - track layout, 
sample data layout etc. Im writting a Midi to MOD converter (theres plenty of 
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Hi Everybody,

> Just a quick unrelated AMOS question. Does anyone have a layout of a 
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> sample data layout etc. Im writting a Midi to MOD converter (theres plenty of 
> MOD to midi) and I have so many midi files i want to use in AMOS. If anyone 
> can help, or at least point me in the right direction of a site that may 
> contain the info id bve very grateful. Ta

   Octamed Sound Studio can import midi files, then you can change the midi notes to amiga samples.

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Hi Everyone!

If you don't already know then AmigActive Issue 1 has been released.

You can buy it from WH Smiths for £4.95 with cover CD. Go buy it.

Read the AIO review/sum up of Issue 1 telling you what its like and
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@golden.net>

On 08-Oct-99, Adam Parrott wrote:
>not from the original beta-testing team, so, unless Giark has any problems
>with it, I will go ahead and send the demo to these people anyways.
>(Giark?)

Is it tomorrow already? Q8-{)

>graphics. Not all of us have given up, however. :)

CBATNAM will not die. "You'll never get /my/ taxes!"

>The final game will contain the following levels:

>Giark was the original co-ordinator of the project, and Braneloc (Keith
>Hill) has since joined him in overseeing the project and assembling the
>final bits of code. All that is lacking is my level, some graphics and
>some animations. Nevertheless, it WILL be finished, so expect to see it
>soon. :D

Don't forget the stunning voice talents of Giark, producing the hilarious
Cap'n Bubba.

Well met and godspeed,
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On 08-Oct-99, Keith Hill wrote:
>Yes, its running just a little late.  <cough>

Heh. If the damn artists would not keep disappearing...

Well met and godspeed,
                      Rev. Giark
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> There are only two certainties in this life, death and taxes.  Only one
man is brave enough to put down his Hero Brau long enough to take BOTH on at
> the same time.

Oh yeah, once its complete, (!!!), it will be available on a nice shiny blue
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Just a note:

Since so many people have asked for the Dungeon demo, I've decided to go
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Hiya all

	I have am woundering if it is possible to play CD-audio in amos, the only
way I can think of doing it is by sending a code to the cd players device
telling it to start playing etc.  if this is possible can someone please
tell me how.

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From: Claude Heiland-allen <claude.heiland-allen@lincoln.oxford.ac.uk>

In message <3.0.3.32.19991012153759.008d47e0@pop.wow.aust.com> amos-list@onelist.com writes:
> 	I have am woundering if it is possible to play CD-audio in amos, the only
> way I can think of doing it is by sending a code to the cd players device
> telling it to start playing etc.  if this is possible can someone please
> tell me how.

cd.device is available with os v40 (CD32 and later)
cdplayer.library on aminet acts as a nice interface to the ...
scsi.device commands to send codes to the cd player (IDE emulates SCSI)

I have used cdplayer.library from Amiga E, it works but seems a bit
unreliable (sometimes the CD drive locks up).  Docs are german only.


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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>     I have am woundering if it is possible to play CD-audio in amos, the only
> way I can think of doing it is by sending a code to the cd players device
> telling it to start playing etc.  if this is possible can someone please
> tell me how.

   Ok, there are three ways I can think of:

1. Somehow use the CD.device (I have no idea how)

2. Use a CDPlayer program that has a CLI interface (if any?)

3. Use a player with an AREXX interface (such as interplay)

   I could actually see if I can through some AREXX together to get it to work with interplay if you liked  :)  

See ya :)
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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.screaming.net>

> >     I have am woundering if it is possible to play CD-audio in amos, the
only
> > way I can think of doing it is by sending a code to the cd players
device
> > telling it to start playing etc.  if this is possible can someone please
> > tell me how.
> 1. Somehow use the CD.device (I have no idea how)

Be aware that 3rd party CD drives and CD32 drives are usually two entirely
SEPERATE entities, and require different code to handle each.

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From: "Gaz Davidson" <gaz_d@hotmail.com>

Hey! I`ve just managed to get a web page together...

It`s not much to look at yet, (Dosn't even work properly yet)
Expect lots of my old Amos stuff soon

And even some new stuff...

http://homepages.msn.com/RedmondAve/gaz_d/

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From: Steve Eaborn <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>

As it seems to be a bit quiet on this list at the moment, I thought I would
plug my games  which were recently featured in Amiga Format :)

They're freely available on Aminet (now it's back up!) together with the
_Amos source_.

Although some were written in AmosPro, they should all work under 1.3 (I
think!), and don't use any extensions other than the standard.

Readme:
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/dirs/aminet/game/misc/MrE.readme

File:
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/dirs/aminet/game/misc/MrE.lha



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From: Steve Eaborn <eaborn@powernet.co.uk>

As it seems to be a bit quiet on this list at the moment, I thought I would
plug my games  which were recently featured in Amiga Format :)

They're freely available on Aminet (now it's back up!) together with the
_Amos source_.

Although some were written in AmosPro, they should all work under 1.3 (I
think!), and don't use any extensions other than the standard.

Readme:
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/dirs/aminet/game/misc/MrE.readme

File:
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/dirs/aminet/game/misc/MrE.lha



Cheers,
    Steve

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> As it seems to be a bit quiet on this list at the moment, I thought I would
> plug my games  which were recently featured in Amiga Format :)

   Why not eh?  :)

> They're freely available on Aminet (now it's back up!) together with the
> _Amos source_.
> 
> Although some were written in AmosPro, they should all work under 1.3 (I
> think!), and don't use any extensions other than the standard.

   I'll have to have a look at them a little later :)


By the way, I once wrote a game called 'Mr E.' It was a 3d platform/puzzle game, the first (and LAST) attempt I made at using that god-awful 3D extention for amos ;)   


Maybe I should release it sometime?  On seccond thought, nah.


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Just a quick one. Ive just got my (Crappy) page up with stuff for download on 
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Hi Everybody,

   Ok, I remember someone has a procedure to copy bobs and icons to and from fastram, I don't suppose they could send us a copy please? :)

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>
>   Ok, there are three ways I can think of:
>
>1. Somehow use the CD.device (I have no idea how)
>
>2. Use a CDPlayer program that has a CLI interface (if any?)
that wouldn't be that reliable becasue different machines use different
kinds of scsi or ide devices
>3. Use a player with an AREXX interface (such as interplay)
>
>   I could actually see if I can through some AREXX together to get it to
work with interplay if you liked  :)  

That would be nice
>See ya :)
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From: Gaz Griffiths <gaz@jokerd.co.uk>

Hi,

I require some testers for the new game from JokerD, Aliens: Homeworld.

The main menu is done at the moment and requires testing on as many machines as
possible, altho' its AMOS based so probably won't work on GFX-card equipped
machines ;)

I'm going to start the game engine at the weekend. The game will be a cross
between Alien Breed '92 etc. and Metal Gear 2 on the MSX. Baically a Stealth
Shoot Em Up. 

a demo should be available relatively soon.

i'll be putting more info on my site within the next few days.

Cya!
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From: Gaz Griffiths <gaz@jokerd.co.uk>

Hi,

After sending a beta-test of my menu to somebody, hey reported horrible flicker
on there 040/060.

They said it may have something to do with either of the two programs in the
subject line

Anyway to work around the flickering?

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> I require some testers for the new game from JokerD, Aliens: Homeworld.

   I'll give it a go.

> The main menu is done at the moment and requires testing on as many machines as
> possible, altho' its AMOS based so probably won't work on GFX-card equipped
> machines ;)

   How would you like to know how to get it working on a gfx card screen? :)

   I know how ;)


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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> After sending a beta-test of my menu to somebody, hey reported horrible flicker
> on there 040/060.
> 
> They said it may have something to do with either of the two programs in the
> subject line

   Um, if it's in Amos then those programs will have no effect what so-ever, anyway if anything they should fix flickering.

> Anyway to work around the flickering?

   What kind of flickering, I've an 040 so you could send it over here and I'll have a peek at it...

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From: Gaz Griffiths <gaz@jokerd.co.uk>

Hi Andrew <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>,

On the 22-Oct-99 you muttered something about [amos-list] Re: FBlit/CPUBlit if I remember correctly, so I thought I would reply! Nice of me wasn't it?

>   What kind of flickering, I've an 040 so you could send it over here and
> I'll have a peek at it...

No idea. someone else reported it to me.

I've snt it to yur priv. mailbox ;)

Cya d00d
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From: Gaz Griffiths <gaz@jokerd.co.uk>

Hi Andrew <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>,

On the 22-Oct-99 you muttered something about [amos-list] Re: Testers wanted. if I remember correctly, so I thought I would reply! Nice of me wasn't it?

>   How would you like to know how to get it working on a gfx card screen? :)
> 
>   I know how ;)

Ooh please share that info ;)

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>>   I know how ;)
> 
> Ooh please share that info ;)

   Ok, basically you open an intuition screen with the intuition extention (only use version 1.3a though)  

   Then, (this only works if you're displaying one screen at once, and not using the amos joystick and inkey$ routines) copy the current amos screen to the intuition screen with Amos Iscreen Copy every frame. 

   To access keyboard use key state() and for joystick use the lowlevel library routines (that'll let you use cd 32 pads as well)

   for the mouse, just change all the mouse x&y to imouse x /y   etc...

   It's a rather rudimentery method, but it works :) 

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

   Does anyone know how to change RGB colour values to and fro the HSV value system? 

See ya :)
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OK, lame Question #527 !

In Classic AMOS the default font was stored in Dir AMOS_SYSTEM as Default.Font

But what is it stored under for AMOS_Pro ? I cant find it anywhere ! And i 
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From: Claude Heiland-allen <claude.heiland-allen@lincoln.oxford.ac.uk>

> From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>
> Does anyone know how to change RGB colour values to and 
> fro the HSV value system? 

colorwheel.gadget (I think) has library calls for that (possibly, it
has BOOPSI methods for sure), but it might be awkward.  And needs OS 3.


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On 24-Oct-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:

>   Does anyone know how to change RGB colour values to and fro the HSV value
> system?

(Sorry for ugly typing - my space key and my 'N' are in  bad moodz at the
moment)

There are some different ways of representing a colour.
except for the trivial rgb-representation the most common one is hue,
saturation, value (hsv)

In the following explanation, r, g, and b will be considered floating point
values from 0 (black) to 1 (full colour)

HUE is the position on the colour-wheel - from 0 to 360 with 0:red, 60:yellow,
120:green, 180:cyan, 240:blue, 300:magenta, 360:red.
If the values should be represented all correctly I would assume that you
would use some sort of sine-calculations to convert from HUE to rgb, but in
fact you just use a linear interpolation. That is 0 is r:1 g:0 b:0, 60 is r:1
g:1 b:0 and inbetween you use g=hue/60 
This representation of hue ensures that minimum one of the three colours, r,
g, and b will be 0 and minimum one will be 1 - nomatter what value of hue you
select. (That is: from 0 to 60 blue is 0 and red is 1 ; from 60 to 120 blue
is 0 and green is 1, from 120 to 180 red is 0 and green is 1, etc)

Then you use saturation and brightness to scale the colour so that you don't
need to have one colour 0 and one colour 1:

SATURATION is the distance from the lightest colour to the darkest, measured
in percent. That is: 100 means that the darkest colour is 0 (black) and 0
means that the darkest colout iquals the lightest colour (that is, all three
colours are the same - the colour is black/grey/white)

VALUE is the distance from the lightest colour to black. That is 0 means that
the lightest colour is 0 (black) and thereby: all three colours are black.
100 means that thelightest  colour is 1.

Sometimes HSV is known as HSB (B=Brightness). The term is moreaccurate, but
there then is  confusion between blue and brightness, so I prefer HSV.
There are also other colour formats, i.e. Cyan, Magenta, Yellow (CMY) where
c=1-r, m=1-g, y=1-b (actually only used in printers and scanners, i think)

And then I've once seen  some "HPV" quite  similar to HSV but with V=0:Black
(like in HSV)  V=100:White (unlike HSV)
To get aclean colour you use HSV:V=100, HPV:V=50

The HPV conversation is more complex than HSV but I guess that HPV is nicer to
work with since the brightness of the  colour is closer to V in HPV than to V
in HSV. Nevertheless I've only included RGB<->HSV in the following example.

The rgb<->hsv procedures works with floating pointvalues. r,g and b in [1,0],
h in [0,360], s and v in [0,100]
Call the rgb-conversation-procs to convert rgb-formats to some moreusefull
stuff:


Ex: Convert 24bit RGB to HSV:

      RGB82F[R] : R#=Param#
      RGB82F[G] : G#=Param#
      RGB82F[B] : B#=Param#
      RGB2H[R#,G#,B#] : H=Param#
      RGB2S[R#,G#,B#] : S=Param#
      RGB2V[R#,G#,B#] : V=Param#

Ex: Convert HSV to 24bit RGB:

      HSV2R[H,S,V] : R#=Param# 
      HSV2G[H,S,V] : G#=Param# 
      HSV2B[H,S,V] : B#=Param# 
      RGBF28[R#] : R=Param
      RGBF28[G#] : G=Param
      RGBF28[B#] : B=Param

(I've done a quick test, it seems to work)



' converts hsv to red in [0,1] 
Procedure HSV2R[H#,S#,V#]
  'ensure that h is in the interval [0,360)
  While H#>=360.0 : H#=H#-360.0 : Wend 
  While H#<0.0 : H#=H#+360.0 : Wend 
  
  ' H:   0    120   240   360
  '    1 ¯¯¯\          /¯¯¯
  ' R:       \        /
  '    0      \______/ 
  R#=Max(0.0,Min(1.0,Abs(H#/60.0-3.0)-1.0))
  
  R#=1.0-((1.0-R#)*S#*0.01)
  R#=R#*V#*0.01
End Proc[R#]

' converts hsv to green in [0,1] 
Procedure HSV2G[H#,S#,V#]
  HSV2R[H#-120,S#,V#]
End Proc[Param#]

' converts hsv to blue in [0,1]  
Procedure HSV2B[H#,S#,V#]
  HSV2R[H#+120,S#,V#]
End Proc[Param#]


Procedure RGB2H[R#,G#,B#]
  H#=0
  ' rotate wheel until h# in [0,60)
  While(R#<B# or R#<G#) or(B#>R# or B#>G#)
    TMP#=R# : R#=1.0-B# : B#=1.0-G# : G#=1.0-TMP#
    H#=H#+60.0
  Wend 
  ' now red is lightest and blue is darkest
  If R#=B#
    H#=0.0
  Else 
    H#=H#+(G#-B#)/(R#-B#)*60.0
  End If 
End Proc[H#]

Procedure RGB2S[R#,G#,B#]
  CMAX#=Max(Max(R#,G#),B#)
  CMIN#=Min(Min(R#,G#),B#)
  If CMAX#=0.0
    S#=0.0
  Else 
    S#=100.0*(1.0-CMIN#/CMAX#)
  End If 
End Proc[S#]

Procedure RGB2V[R#,G#,B#]
  CMAX#=Max(Max(R#,G#),B#)
  V#=100.0*CMAX#
End Proc[V#]

'converts [0,1] colour value to [0,$F] 
Procedure RGBF24[C#]
  C=C#*15.0+0.5
End Proc[C]

'converts [0,1] colour value to [0,$FF]  
Procedure RGBF28[C#]
  C=C#*255.0+0.5
End Proc[C]

'converts [0,$F] colour value to [0,1]   
Procedure RGB42F[C]
  C#=C/15.0
End Proc[C#]

'converts [0,$FF] colour value to [0,1]    
Procedure RGB82F[C]
  C#=C/255.0
End Proc[C#]






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Hi Everybody,


> in HSV. Nevertheless I've only included RGB<->HSV in the following example.
> 
> The rgb<->hsv procedures works with floating pointvalues. r,g and b in [1,0],
> h in [0,360], s and v in [0,100]
> Call the rgb-conversation-procs to convert rgb-formats to some moreusefull
> stuff:
> 

> (I've done a quick test, it seems to work)


   It worked perfectly :)  Except it completely failed when compiled. I fixed that by re-writing the min()/max() bits by using if's.
   

   Chears :)

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Hello All,
  Is there an extension available that allows me to play samples
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Hi Everybody,

>  Is there an extension available that allows me to play samples
> directly from a hard disk.  Thanks.

   You don't need one, AMOS has that ability built in. Just copy the example from the AMOSPro manual, look for 'Sam swap'.

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Declan Gorman wrote:
> 
> From: Declan Gorman <decg@gofree.indigo.ie>
> 
> Hello All,
>   Is there an extension available that allows me to play samples
> directly from a hard disk.  Thanks.
> 
> Declan.

Yes there is : The D-SAM extension does this work, you can play huge
samples from disk.
It was on a mag cover some years ago, I must have this somewhere 8)
It is a bit painful to use, but it works.

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Hello All,
  My current project consists of a large number of variables that read from
a large number of data statements.  I am concerned about the time it takes
to load the variables with values on startup as I anticipate having an
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From: Claude Heiland-allen <claude.heiland-allen@lincoln.oxford.ac.uk>

amos-list@onelist.com writes:
>   My current project consists of a large number of variables that read from
> a large number of data statements.  I am concerned about the time it takes

These variables being arrays?  Otherwise I see no need for Read.
if you know the format of the arrays (eg, starting address and size of
elements and type (eg 32 bit signed integer)) then you could do a CopyMem()
from some binary data that you load, or in fact load the binary data file
directly into the array.  If you want just the one file, you would need to
use INCBIN and copy, or something similar if AMOS doesn't support it.

If you were feeling particularly cunning you could write a short program to
convert the Data statements into the data binary automatically, I can't see
that being too difficult.


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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>  My current project consists of a large number of variables that read from
> a large number of data statements.  I am concerned about the time it takes
> to load the variables with values on startup as I anticipate having an
> enormous amount of variables by the time the project is finished.  So is
> there a faster way to load the variables on startup other than reading from
> thousands of data statements?  Any help would be appreciated.

   It takes a long time to read data statements? What amiga are you using?!? ;)

Using the 'Data' statement is one of the quickest ways of storing variables, but it is really not a good idea to use a lot of them as the compiler fails if there are more then about 64k's worth.

   What you should do is store all the data in a file instead. This is slower, but it is better in other respects (for a start you can compile it if there's more then 64k's worth) and it also means that it can be changed without recompiling it (if you want to release updates etc.)


   To store data in a file, first do:

open out 1,"filename"

do

   trap read a (or a$, a#)

   if errtrap
      exit
   end if
   Print #1,a

loop

close
end


then delete the data statements and replace that with

open in 1,"filename"

repeat

   input #1,a (or a$ etc)

   array(x)=a

until Eof(1)

close 



   (PS. I just typed that into Yam, not sure it'd work...)


Hope that helps ;)

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From: Claude Heiland-allen <claude.heiland-allen@lincoln.oxford.ac.uk>

Hello Claude,

>These variables being arrays?  Otherwise I see no need for Read.

Yes, the majority of the variables are arrays.  I did toy around with
the idea of using memory banks to store and read my data but found it a
very long winded way to go about it.

>if you know the format of the arrays (eg, starting address and size of
>elements and type (eg 32 bit signed integer)) then you could do a CopyMem()
>from some binary data that you load, or in fact load the binary data file
>directly into the array.  If you want just the one file, you would need to
>use INCBIN and copy, or something similar if AMOS doesn't support it.

I am not exactly clear about what you mean, could you elaborate?

>If you were feeling particularly cunning you could write a short program to
>convert the Data statements into the data binary automatically, I can't see
>that being too difficult.

Hmmm, one step at a time I think.

Thanks for you reply.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hello Andrew,

>    It takes a long time to read data statements? What amiga are you using?!? ;)

I have an A1200 030 30MHz with 16 Megs of fast ram.

> Using the 'Data' statement is one of the quickest ways of storing variables, but it is really not a good idea to use a lot of them as the compiler fails if there are more then about 64k's worth.

Hmmm, now that is not good as I do anticipate quite a lot of variables
when it is complete.  Is there anyway to change the 64k limit?

>    What you should do is store all the data in a file instead. This is slower, but it is better in other respects (for a start you can compile it if there's more then 64k's worth) and it also means that it can be changed without recompiling it (if you want to release updates etc.)
> 

That is something I will seriously consider.

>    To store data in a file, first do:

<snip>

> then delete the data statements and replace that with

<snip>

 
> Hope that helps ;)

I will let you know.  Thanks for your reply.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>>    It takes a long time to read data statements? What amiga are you using?!? ;)
> 
> I have an A1200 030 30MHz with 16 Megs of fast ram.

   Hmm, it shouldn't be slow at all, I rekon it should be almost instant (well, I suppose if you have lots of them and you haven't compiled it, then that could take a little bit, but I still thing it'd be the fastest method...)

>> Using the 'Data' statement is one of the quickest ways of storing variables, but it is really not a good idea to use a lot of them as the compiler fails if there are more then about 64k's worth.
> 
> Hmmm, now that is not good as I do anticipate quite a lot of variables
> when it is complete.  Is there anyway to change the 64k limit?

   It's a bug in the compiler, I think that not using 'Data' is the only way round it :(

>>    What you should do is store all the data in a file instead. This is slower, but it is better in other respects (for a start you can compile it if there's more then 64k's worth) and it also means that it can be changed without recompiling it (if you want to release updates etc.)
>> 
> 
> That is something I will seriously consider.

>> Hope that helps ;)
> 
> I will let you know.  Thanks for your reply.

   No prob ;)
   
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From: Claude Heiland-allen <claude.heiland-allen@lincoln.oxford.ac.uk>

> From: Declan Gorman <decg@gofree.indigo.ie>
>
> >if you know the format of the arrays (eg, starting address and size of
> >elements and type (eg 32 bit signed integer)) then you could do a CopyMem()
> >from some binary data that you load, or in fact load the binary data file
> >directly into the array.  If you want just the one file, you would need to
> >use INCBIN and copy, or something similar if AMOS doesn't support it.
> 
> I am not exactly clear about what you mean, could you elaborate?

An array in memory is a sequence of equally sized objects.  For example a long
integer needs 4 bytes, so an array of 8 elements would take up 8*4 = 32 bytes.

Then instead of reading the 8 values from the Data statement, you can load 32
bytes of data from a file into the memory used by the array.  To do this you
need to get the starting address of the array.

The easiest way to get the 32 byte file (in this example) would be to use the
first version of the program (with Data) to load the arrays, then save the
array data to disk.

This method is only likely to work with simple array types (integers and floats)
and almost certainly won't with arrays of strings.


Note:  I am more used to programming in E/C than AMOS, and these have quite low
level data types.  AMOS arrays probably have extra checking on out of bounds
indexes etc, but the format of the array contents should be the same.



Claude

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From: Truls Osmundsen <ozzy1@online.no>

* Svar til:* /Andrew Crowe/ (#andrewcrowe@enterprise.net#)
* Dato var:* /29-Oct-99/
* Emne var:* /[amos-list] Re: Data Statements/

>   It takes a long time to read data statements? What amiga are you
> using?!? ;)

If one got sooo many statements, why not just create a screen with
a progress bar with the words "Please wait" ?

It can be done in a proffesional way, keeping the user from saying "crap".
:)

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