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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>
To: Declan Gorman <amos-list@onelist.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:05:59 -0500
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Subject: [amos-list] Re: Slider Gadgets and Preset Values
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 25-Jan-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>  My problem is that I cannot display decimal numbers as they seem to be
>rounded off to the nearest whole number. ie. "0.5" is displayed as "1".

I found the same problem. It is in the GUI extension and Pietro seems to have
died. The only solution is to make a text gadget and use the str$() function
to change your number into a string.

A$=Str$(YOURNUM#)
'Remember that you must use the # after variables if they are floating point,
or AMOS will chop the decimals off itself
Gui Set 1,1,0,Varptr(A$)

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>
To: Declan Gorman <amos-list@onelist.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:06:52 -0500
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Subject: [amos-list] Re: TOME / TAME
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 25-Jan-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>Tome is available via the Amos Factory site,
>http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/ext/eclst.htm

But there are no docs, as of yet. Unless they've been added since I last
looked.

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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
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Subject: [amos-list] screen grabs
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Lots of people been talking about a good amos screen grabber.

I can't believe I'm the only one thats found one.

The author is on list I attached a demo of his programs grabs on a 3d screen. 

Could you ask for more ?

Only thing AFAIK is what he posted in the docs about not being able to ggrab
rainbows.


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Now that sounds like a challenge to me ! I Always loved Pitfall 1/2 on the old
2600 and when they produced Pitfall on the MegaDrive it lost some of the
sparkle in my opinion. Im all for re-creating the classics like that. I myself
have made REPTON (BBC) Sabre Wulf/Jet-Pac/Atic Atac (Spectrum) and TEMPEST
(Jaguar) all in AMOS, but I never thought about Pitfall ! Im game if no one
else is ! And I need something new to do ! Are we sticking to the classic
style or improving (as if one could !) ?

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From: "Rune J. Keller" <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>

On 24-Jan-99, Ken wrote:

> Lots of people been talking about a good amos screen grabber.

> I can't believe I'm the only one thats found one.

> The author is on list.

Yep, that's me. This program has been mentioned a couple of times. :)

> Could you ask for more ?

> Only thing AFAIK is what he posted in the docs about not being able to ggrab
> rainbows.

Also you have to have the source of the program, you wish to grab.

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi.

Damn Right. Sounds Kewl!

Theres Loads Of Other C64 Games Id Like To See Re-done
Creature 1+2
Mayhem In Monster land
I ball 1+2
yada, yada, yada, etc,etc,etc
Mail me

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Theres Loads Of Other C64 Games Id Like To See Re-done
> Creature 1+2
> Mayhem In Monster land
> I ball 1+2
> yada, yada, yada, etc,etc,etc
> Mail me

   Hey, you could always try it yourself ;)

Remember, "Practice makes perfect" applys to coding as well.

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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



Hi all


Heres a small list of oldies I'd love someone convert to miggy.

(In no particular order)


1- Mule (the c64 game)
2- EOS  "Earth Orbit Stations" (the c64 game)
3- Superman (the vcs2600 game)
4- F1 (the speccy F1 manager game) (by crl!)
5- Bruce Lee (the c64 game)
6- Rally X (the arcade game)
7- JCB Digger (the BBC game)
8- Minder (the speccy game)
9- Westminster (the BBC game)
0- Laser Blast (the vcs2600 game)

anyone fancy coding one..? ;)


Steve

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>


RESPONSE TO ANDREW CROWE`s Good Ol Days Response.!

This Was Response To Original Good Ol Days

Not. NOT!!!! asking All To Code old Games For Me

If I Wanted To I Could But Dont Have The Time Along Side Other Projects

Guess You Should Have Read The Subject Matter Properly.



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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi.

I Think we started a trend.

Bruce Lee Sounds Tempting Dunnit.

Mail me, if u want to discuss it further

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> This Was Response To Original Good Ol Days
> Not. NOT!!!! asking All To Code old Games For Me
> If I Wanted To I Could But Dont Have The Time Along Side Other
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> Guess You Should Have Read The Subject Matter Properly.

   Ok ok, I'm sorry.  I though you were making suggestions for other
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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>no way dude. its online 24 hours a day. sometimes it gets a little busy,
>but its hardly ever offline. If you cant always get in, keep trying. the
>FTP address is mushypd.dynip.com and you should be going into
/pub/amiga/amos/

Thats good to know. I haven't had a whole lot of luck with amos or the 
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Hi!
Say, I've noticed a problem with the procedure folding feature of AMOS PRO's
editor. When my code passed the 32K mark (ugh!) I noticed that I could 
unfold procedures fine but not fold them without wiping out everything below 
them (like other procedures). When I unfold them again, everything wiped 
out...comes back.
I have boosted editor memory to 64K but it still does it. I'm using Amos Pro 
2.0 on a A1200 030/50mhz 10meg system.
Any fixes? Thanks for you time.





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Hi,

Does anyone know how to avoid scanning the entire Fonts: dir for fonts (Get
Fonts) when you just want to grab one font?

It's really annoying to have to wait for scan completion every time i run a
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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 08:17 PM 1/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>
>
>Is mushies ftp site off line?
>

no way dude. its online 24 hours a day. sometimes it gets a little busy,
but its hardly ever offline. If you cant always get in, keep trying. the
FTP address is mushypd.dynip.com and you should be going into /pub/amiga/amos/


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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 25-Jan-99, Stephen Thornber wrote:
>1- Mule (the c64 game)

I'd love to see this one.

>0- Laser Blast (the vcs2600 game)

Already out there. I forget the filename though. On aminet.

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

hi.

try to.

set the font directory

then just place only the fonts u want in there

and use get disc fonts

hope this helps

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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

Well if you have seen the Windows version of Pitfall, you can see that 
the gfx is ok, but I don't like to play it. It does not remember me of 
Pitfall. I think we should stick to the original. It would be great if 
there would be a Pitfall for the Amiga! Maybe there are more people out 
there like us who like this idea and have something to bring in! C'mon 
people!


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>Now that sounds like a challenge to me ! I Always loved Pitfall 1/2 on 
the old
>2600 and when they produced Pitfall on the MegaDrive it lost some of 
the
>sparkle in my opinion. Im all for re-creating the classics like that. I 
myself
>have made REPTON (BBC) Sabre Wulf/Jet-Pac/Atic Atac (Spectrum) and 
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>(Jaguar) all in AMOS, but I never thought about Pitfall ! Im game if no 
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>else is ! And I need something new to do ! Are we sticking to the 
classic
>style or improving (as if one could !) ?
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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

hi

yeh i think a pitfall remake is surely on the cards now

would be good if this were an amos community effort, not just left to one prsn.

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Yep, I agree! It would also be nice to have some sort of editor in wich 
you can create games/levels that can be loaded in the game. In that way 
you have a lot of "games" that can be spreaded around! It's just an 
idea. The Amos - Pitfall community has begun!




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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

Greetings,
  I am wondering why the OS_Devkit V2.0 which is available for download at
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however is titled AMOSPro_OS_DevKit_20.Lib, which is very strange indeed.
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From: "David Vivash" <PMA98DAV@sheffield.ac.uk>

> From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>
> 
> Yep, I agree! It would also be nice to have some sort of editor in wich 
> you can create games/levels that can be loaded in the game. In that way 
> you have a lot of "games" that can be spreaded around! It's just an 
> idea. The Amos - Pitfall community has begun!

I think I must be too young for all this nostalgia... Could you 
briefly descibe what you do in 'Pitfall' ??? There's always a chance 
I've played it, but then again...

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From: "Ives, Neil, IVESNJ" <neil.ives@bt.com>

> Does anyone know how to avoid scanning the entire Fonts: dir for fonts
(Get
> Fonts) when you just want to grab one font?

I think you can put the required fonts in the program directory and assign
the path to them before Amos looks for them. Dont forget to re-assign to
your system fonts before quiting Amos though.

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From: Michel Donat <Michel.Donat@wanadoo.fr>

Hello Declan

Le 26-Jan-99, Declan Gorman a écrit:

> From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
> 
> Greetings,
>  I am wondering why the OS_Devkit V2.0 which is available for download at
> the AMOS Factory web site, contains version 1.61 of the lib file.  The
file
> however is titled AMOSPro_OS_DevKit_20.Lib, which is very strange indeed.
> Any comments?

 Yes is normally :-)

 Actually the version are 1.91

 It's a good choice to coding syste , but is more hard versus Gui Extention
 and is more System .


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From: "Rune J. Keller" <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>

On 26-Jan-99, Arash Tavakoli wrote:

> Does anyone know how to avoid scanning the entire Fonts: dir for fonts (Get
> Fonts) when you just want to grab one font?

> It's really annoying to have to wait for scan completion every time i run a
> program just to use another font than topaz... (especially with a fonts
> directory as big as mine...)

You can use AMCAF's font commands. Or you could install MCP on your computer
and use CacheFonts (basically it makes a list of all your fonts, which means
that you never have to load the fonts directory - in any program).

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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

Check out www.clark.net/pub/vgr/pitfall2.html      for a view of the 
levels!

Also check     www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Lair/9260/pitfall.html
for info on Pitfall and also other 2600 games!

Keep the info comming!


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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



Hi

>Bruce Lee Sounds Tempting Dunnit.

sure does :)

>Mail me, if u want to discuss it further

no point. :(  I'm a very lame coder.


Steve

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From: "Ives, Neil, IVESNJ" <neil.ives@bt.com>

> You can use AMCAF's font commands. Or you could install MCP on your
computer
> and use CacheFonts (basically it makes a list of all your fonts, which
means
> that you never have to load the fonts directory - in any program).

Dont have to have MCP, just Cache Font.

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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Jericho

Js > hi
Js > 
Js > yeh i think a pitfall remake is surely on the cards now

Are we sticking with the original style GFX or updating them ??

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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi patrick

pW > Yep, I agree! It would also be nice to have some sort of editor in wich

pW > you can create games/levels that can be loaded in the game. In that way

pW > you have a lot of "games" that can be spreaded around! It's just an 
pW > idea. The Amos - Pitfall community has begun!

Yeah, what a kewl idea.....that would definately let everyone in the AMOS
community to get involved in the project...designing their own levels would
give the lesser abled programmers a chance to join in too.


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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi David

DV > I think I must be too young for all this nostalgia... Could you 
DV > briefly descibe what you do in 'Pitfall' ??? There's always a chance 
DV > I've played it, but then again...

Well I played it on the Atari2600 and *LOVED* it.

It's a platform game....

Your a little man and have to negotiate the levels by jumping over opening
and closing swamps....swinging across bogs with crocodiles in them and
climbing up and down ladders whilst avoiding camp fires that have been set
out by mystery indians =)

It was really kewl....

You have played later versions that appeared on the Megadrive and SNES ?

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Hi all,
       Is AMOS still on Usenet, or any other newsgroup, or is the AMOS-List
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If it is available on other groups:
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                                    2) How do I do it ??

Is it the same mails as the AMOS-List or not.....??

thanks for your help....


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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Yeh now were getting somewhere

ive a feeling this could lead to bigger things

anyone else interested?
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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

>Okay, if no-one has any objections (too bad if) I'll put up a
>Project: Pitfall webpage on my site and post the address here
>when it's up.
>People who want to be a part, or even find out how it's going can
>go have a look!

   All of the talk of this new Pitfall project reminds me of something...

   What the hell happened to CBATNAM?????  Our stages were 
   completed a YEAR ago and still the game has not been released!!
   What is going on?  What is causing this delay??

Garfield Benjamin    e-mail: gbenjam@sosbbs.com


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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

>Could someone fill me in on what kind of a game pitfall is? It seem's to
>have slipped past me in my old 8-bit days...

   It was like the first side platformer created by David Crane for
   Activision back in the very early 1980s.  It used the flip-screen system
   later adapted by games like Flashback but Pitfall!  was the first game
   of this kind.  It was cool... your little guy would let out a Tarzan yell
   when swinging (or was it jumping on/off the vines?).  Hahaha.

   I actually sent for a 25 cent  "The Programming of Pitfall Harry"
   brochure back around 1983 or so which explained how David
   had performed the C64 translation of the game.  It was interesting
   reading and helped to boost my interest in game programming.  :-)

   I probably still have that brochure packed away in some far corner
   but have no idea where at the moment.  Hahahaha.   :)

   I do remember that he actually created a kind of "interpreter" which
   allowed him to easily recreate the scenes.  Obviously, it was just a list
   of objects and their x and y positions but it seemed pretty advanced
   back then.  :)

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hey all,

Regarding Pitfall (or any game)

You wrote:
>would be good if this were an amos community effort, not just
>left to one prsn.

I'd be willing to help out. Not coding, but I love doing
graphics. So if anyone needs help... email me ;)  And I'll see
what I can do.

 -- Leto

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hi all!

Look about this Pitfall game... I think it could really work. But
to get everyone organised, how about we set up a web-site with a
manager (or whoever) and ppl email him to join and they get their
details put on the webpage and also ideas and pics / etc get put
there.

This way everyone can know what's going on, etc. And i think it
would work out well.

I have space on my homepage account BTW ;)

 -- Leto

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Could someone fill me in on what kind of a game pitfall is? It seem's to
have slipped past me in my old 8-bit days...

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Okay, if no-one has any objections (too bad if) I'll put up a
Project: Pitfall webpage on my site and post the address here
when it's up.

People who want to be a part, or even find out how it's going can
go have a look!

Go AMOS!

 -- Leto

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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

Well, Leto Kauler was willing the set up a page for it! I agree with 
that! And he was willing to do the graphics! Excellent.

1) I think we should stick with the old gfx.
2) I also like my idea about creating an extra program that can be used 
the create in a simple way a sort of game wich can be loaded en played. 
That way there can be 1001 new games wich are different from the real 
game. It's a sort of level editor.
3) A good thing would be a "rotating sourcecode". If someone has 
allready created something, another can download the sourcecode and make 
some changes to it (or improving) send it up for showing and wait for 
reactions. Or just 1 or 2 coders doing it and showing it to others, hear 
there reactions and if there or changes to be made they are doing it.

More to follow......

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

>>1) I think we should stick with the old gfx.

Personally I think that old gfx should be improved upon.  If you want people
to take this team effort seriously, it will have to have more than just good
gameplay.  Give it some atmosphere with some good gfx, sfx and music.

Good luck.

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From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>

Thanks Rev Giark, your answer was something I was exploring but needed to
know if it was a bug or a "feature" of the GUI Extension.

Another thing for ya......Is it possible to set the range of a slider within
AMOS? i.e. Defined in Gadtools as 0-127, but in AMOS reset it to 0-100.
The reason I am asking is that I am trying to save a bit of space on my GUI
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Thanks.

Declan.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 25-Jan-99, Declan Gorman wrote:
>  My problem is that I cannot display decimal numbers as they seem to be
>rounded off to the nearest whole number. ie. "0.5" is displayed as "1".

I found the same problem. It is in the GUI extension and Pietro seems to
have
died. The only solution is to make a text gadget and use the str$() function
to change your number into a string.

A$=Str$(YOURNUM#)
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or AMOS will chop the decimals off itself
Gui Set 1,1,0,Varptr(A$)

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

hi

pitfall is a bit older than 8 yrs old

its concept is so simple, u cntrl a little man that had to negotiate
various hazards (pits) by swinging or whatever.

dead simple. but compulsive

ive forgotten quite alot myself, so ive hooked up my old c64 & am tring to find my old box of tape based games

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From: Ken <cbminfo@digital.net>

>ive forgotten quite alot myself, so ive hooked up my old c64 & am tring to
>find my old box of tape based games

If you have gary kitchens game maker also, the source to pitfall is included. 
I can't recall if you can write a text file of the source, but you can get a 
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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



Hi all


Instead of arguing for a month on wether to do the "original" pitfall
or an update..

why not do both...?  and have an option to play "Classic" or "Advanced"
pitfall..??

I can't help with the coding, but I can do gfx and design levels
for it..?

BTW - I've just had a game of pitfall on my c64, and the gfx are VERY
      simple.. so I think it would be a good idea to do Two versions..?


also - anyone remember the game called "Hero"..?
another activision classic..!!!



Steve


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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

You can also run a atari 2600 emulator and run Pitfall to bring back 
memories. Stella is a good Emulator for it! Looking forward to getting 
this project running!

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>hi
>
>pitfall is a bit older than 8 yrs old
>
>its concept is so simple, u cntrl a little man that had to negotiate
>various hazards (pits) by swinging or whatever.
>
>dead simple. but compulsive
>
>ive forgotten quite alot myself, so ive hooked up my old c64 & am tring 
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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

JS> ive forgotten quite alot myself, so ive hooked up my old c64 & am
JS> trying to find my old box of tape based games.
   K> If you have gary kitchens game maker also, the source to pitfall is
   K> included.  I can't recall if you can write a text file of the source,
   K> but you can get a printout of it.

      Cool. These things really bring back the memories!!  I remember
      loading Temple of Apshai from a cassette player on my C64.  One
      error during the 20 minute program load and you would need to
      rewind the tape and start again.  Hahahaha.

      Gamemaker was cool... create an entire game with just the joystick.
      I sometimes think that a modern version of Gamemaker would be a
      popular (hot selling) tool... especially on the PC.  :)

      -----<NEW SUBJECT BEGINS HERE>-----
      I forgot to mention that I finished that Lightwave Monitor Friday but
      for some odd reason once I added the speech (via the Play command)
      the program no longer runs outside of AMOS.
      Other than the "translator.lib", what files do I need to use the Play
      command?

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Hi Declan

DG > Personally I think that old gfx should be improved upon.  If you want
people to take this team effort seriously, it will have to have more than
just good gameplay.  
Give it some atmosphere with some good gfx, sfx and music.

Yeah I agree...if this is supposed to be a *team* effort and the finished
product looks like a Spectrum reject (although it will have been *made* to
look that way) ppl are just gonna laugh and not take it seriously.

If the game has great GFX, SFX and music and looks professional ppl will
take more notice...lets make something we can all be proud of...


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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 26-Jan-99, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   All of the talk of this new Pitfall project reminds me of something...

Reminds me, too. I wonder who will be project coordinator, a thankless job.

>   What the hell happened to CBATNAM?

About 6 months back, I passed the final assembly to Braneloc. Direct your hate
thataways. Q8-{)

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

hi.

I think the entire idea of pitfall NEEDS! to be brought right up to speed. just rehashing the original will not be enough, We need to update all components of the game, GFX, SFX, Design.

I think We should make this as a tribute to the original pitfall

I am running this now on my c64 & can see shitloads that could be done with the game.

Anyway its just a thought.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 27-Jan-99, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      for some odd reason once I added the speech (via the Play command)

Play command? Say command?

>      Other than the "translator.lib", what files do I need to use the Play
>      command?

narrator.device
possibly speak-handler too.

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On 27-Jan-99, r!K wrote:
>If the game has great GFX, SFX and music and looks professional ppl will
>take more notice...lets make something we can all be proud of...

I am looking at the ominous clouds on the horizon. Yikes! I'm a shattered Cbat
Nam vet.

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hi.

classic or update version!

sounds like a kewl idea

I will certainly do some coding for this
(not much good a gfx though)

sound & code is my game.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 27-Jan-99, Jericho swathe wrote:
>classic or update version!
>sounds like a kewl idea
>I will certainly do some coding for this
>(not much good a gfx though)
>sound & code is my game.

I'll throw in the amazing voice talents of Giark for the project. I've got
about 30 megs of custom sounds collected over the years at my disposal, too.

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GB> All of the talk of this new Pitfall project reminds me of something...
   RGTY> Reminds me, too. I wonder who will be project coordinator,
   RGTY> a thankless job.

      Hahahaha... yes, I remember well your continued attempts to push the
      project forward.  Actually, you succeeded in pushing the completion
      of all but one of the stages, I believe.

      Perhaps what is needed is for you to put that Project Coordinator
      hat on just one more time to bring CBATNAM to completion.  :)


GB> What the hell happened to CBATNAM?
   RGTY> About 6 months back, I passed the final assembly to Braneloc.
   RGTY> Direct your hate thataways. Q8-{)

      I think I remember Keith mentioning something about his Amiga hard
      drive being wiped out at one point so maybe all of his CBATNAM
      material is "gone".  :-(

      Well... I still have my stage... if the rest of the guys have their
      stages we can simpy integrate it all through your Menu system and
      have it done.

      Forget the animations and music... realistically, we will probably
      never see that stuff so why not just put everything together that is
      currently finished and waiting.

      Hell... I am more than willing to work with you Giark and eventually
      we will have the Menu and stages all integrated!!  Should not be
      difficult for two of us.

      Perhaps after we have the Main Menu and stages linked some
      talented musician might be inspired to compose the music and just
      maybe some talented artist... might be inspired to do those
      Between-Stage animations.

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> Hi all
> 
> 
> Instead of arguing for a month on wether to do the "original" pitfall
> or an update..
> 
> why not do both...?  and have an option to play "Classic" or "Advanced"
> pitfall..??
>

Presuming the screens will just be maps of icons, it would be quite 
easy to have a few sets of graphics that will work on the same maps.
For example, icons 1-5 could be "grass", 6-15 "walls" etc.
This way implementing two different versions would just mean loading 
in a different graphics set (maybe even give the option in the level 
editor of defining your own graphic set)...

Just an idea.

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GB> for some odd reason once I added the speech (via the Play command)
   RGTY> Play command? Say command?

      Hahaha... yes, that is what I meant... the Say command.  :)
      I did not use that command... tried it once when I first got AMOS but
      thought the quality was very poor so used sampled speech ever since.


GB> Other than the "translator.lib", what files do I need to use the Play
GB> command?
   RGTY> narrator.device
   RGTY> possibly speak-handler too.

      Aaaah.. I knew there was some kind of narrator file.  Hahahaha.
      Thanks... I will copy these from the AMOS disk and retest the LWM
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 27-Jan-99, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      I think I remember Keith mentioning something about his Amiga hard
>      drive being wiped out at one point so maybe all of his CBATNAM
>      material is "gone".  :-(

It's been replaced since then. I still have it all here.

>      Forget the animations and music... realistically, we will probably
>      never see that stuff so why not just put everything together that is
>      currently finished and waiting.

If you want the job, I'll pass the stuff to you. If it gets near completion,
I'll write the docs for it, along with the Bubba story.

"You'll never get /my/ taxes!"

>      Hell... I am more than willing to work with you Giark and eventually
>      we will have the Menu and stages all integrated!!  Should not be
>      difficult for two of us.

You're right. Ack! Nam flashback!

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On 27-Jan-99, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      I think I remember Keith mentioning something about his Amiga hard
>      drive being wiped out at one point so maybe all of his CBATNAM
>      material is "gone".  :-(

It's been replaced since then. I still have it all here.

>      Forget the animations and music... realistically, we will probably
>      never see that stuff so why not just put everything together that is
>      currently finished and waiting.

If you want the job, I'll pass the stuff to you. If it gets near completion,
I'll write the docs for it, along with the Bubba story.

"You'll never get /my/ taxes!"

>      Hell... I am more than willing to work with you Giark and eventually
>      we will have the Menu and stages all integrated!!  Should not be
>      difficult for two of us.

You're right. Ack! Nam flashback!

Well met and godspeed,
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On 27-Jan-99, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>      Hahaha... yes, that is what I meant... the Say command.  :)

I suspected as much. Q8-{)

>      I did not use that command... tried it once when I first got AMOS but

But it had the mouth commands in it! You could sync mouth movements to the
speech, as in Therapy, one of my first AMOS creations.

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>GB> All of the talk of this new Pitfall project reminds me of something...
>   RGTY> Reminds me, too. I wonder who will be project coordinator,
>   RGTY> a thankless job.
>      Hahahaha... yes, I remember well your continued attempts to push the
>      project forward.  Actually, you succeeded in pushing the completion
>      of all but one of the stages, I believe.
>      Perhaps what is needed is for you to put that Project Coordinator
>      hat on just one more time to bring CBATNAM to completion.  :)

Heh, that was the problem last time ;-)  I'd really like to see it finished.

>GB> What the hell happened to CBATNAM?
>   RGTY> About 6 months back, I passed the final assembly to Braneloc.
>   RGTY> Direct your hate thataways. Q8-{)

>      I think I remember Keith mentioning something about his Amiga hard
>      drive being wiped out at one point so maybe all of his CBATNAM
>      material is "gone".  :-(


Yeah, this is the main reason I'm on the peecee for email now.  YUK.  I have
a barely functioning amos on my system, all the updated source has gone, all
the old source I think is still around.  I havn't had a free minute to do
programming for a while now, and it annoys me more than it does you.

>      Well... I still have my stage... if the rest of the guys have their
>      stages we can simpy integrate it all through your Menu system and
>      have it done.


The menu system needs a lot of work, my level though mostly complete needs a
day or two contant work since the crash, and one or two of the other levels
need quite a bit of work to integrate.  The sound system was an immense
problem, my level plays from fast mem ok 99% of the time, but the real prob
was music.  Half the music is in THX (or some other such) format, and is not
really compatable with module music, and led to immense problems with that.
I had got almost to completion when the hard drive died.  I still havn't got
the website up to date, and I do that for a living !  Where the hell does
the time go ?

>      Forget the animations and music... realistically, we will probably
>      never see that stuff so why not just put everything together that is
>      currently finished and waiting.


We have SOME animation (very little) and music.  Also we have another level
being integrated by AP, which aparantly is making good progress, and the
alleged hang glider level that someone was updating..  I can't rememebr who
now.

>      Hell... I am more than willing to work with you Giark and eventually
>      we will have the Menu and stages all integrated!!  Should not be
>      difficult for two of us.

Oh yeah, and one or two of the levels use extensions I do not have.
(Specially after losing everythjing in a crash)

>      Perhaps after we have the Main Menu and stages linked some
>      talented musician might be inspired to compose the music and just
>      maybe some talented artist... might be inspired to do those
>      Between-Stage animations.

Heh, my thoughts exactly.  The menu was the key.  It has been started, and
needs a lot of cleaning up to finish.  My stage is a doddle to integrate,
there is just one procedure call for the whole damn thing.  If only everyone
else's was that easy..

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> Instead of arguing for a month on wether to do the "original" pitfall
> or an update..
>
> why not do both...?  and have an option to play "Classic" or "Advanced"
> pitfall..??
>

>Presuming the screens will just be maps of icons, it would be quite
>easy to have a few sets of graphics that will work on the same maps.
>For example, icons 1-5 could be "grass", 6-15 "walls" etc.
>This way implementing two different versions would just mean loading
>in a different graphics set (maybe even give the option in the level
>ditor of defining your own graphic set)...


    Juat do it !!  That is how CBATNAM got started.  An idea lept forward,
and a couple of programmers jumped onto the band wagon and had demos within
the week.  Then a few more, and a few more joined till we had a nice large
team.  Then we all got bored and went home.  (Well, not qauite, but a lot of
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On 27-Jan-99, Keith Hill wrote:
>The menu system needs a lot of work,

Yes, I learned a few new tricks since writing that menu, but it looked good.
Q8-{)

>My stage is a doddle to integrate,
>there is just one procedure call for the whole damn thing.  If only everyone
>else's was that easy..

They were /all/ supposed to be one procedure call each.

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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 27-Jan-99, Keith Hill wrote:
>    Juat do it !!  That is how CBATNAM got started.  An idea lept forward,
>and a couple of programmers jumped onto the band wagon and had demos within
>the week.

Not quite. There was the usual chatter back and forth forever until I
nominated myself project coordinator and started harassing everyone who had
even halfway said they might do something. /Then/ the two demos showed up
within a week. Not to brag, but if I hadn't started driving people, it would
never have got past the chatter stage. Whoever is doing the pitfall project
better get a leader damn quick and start getting some ideas worked out.
Discussion is great to get the idea started, but with no whipcracking,
programmers are a lazy lot, myself included.

>Then we all got bored and went home.

Or worse, left the list and changed email address. How can I harass people if
they disappear? Q8-{) 

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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Rev.

RGTY >> Tome is available via the Amos Factory site,
RGTY >> http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/ext/eclst.htm

Well I been here and all I get is a list of the extensions and when u click
on them a description (review) of it.

How do u d/l it ???

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

hi all

ok enough chitter chatter!

if no one has any objections, I will nominate myself as a kind of project coordinater/team leader sort of idea.

I will also do some coding

gfx are wanted/needed and same applies for sfx/music

new ideas to be intergrated into the original design are needed

I think i will go with the idea posted that there should be an option to play classic or enhanced, this sounds great & as was pointed out simple to implement.

right i am off

tra fnow.

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

   I see we've got a new amos project going on the list....


   I can't say I've ever played Pitfall, but isn't it like flashback? If
it is then it should make a good little game.

   I probably wouldn't be able to help much, but if you need any help I
might be able to do something ;)

      Good luck guys!

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

can anyone tell me whats happend to amiga formats web site?

all i get to is futurenet, & cant find any links to af.
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From: Arash Tavakoli <arash@online.no>

Hi ppl,

I was compiling some programs of mine when i ran across a horrible bug in the
amos pro compiler (at least i think it's the compiler's fault)...


Enter this in the editor:
--------------------
TRUTH

Procedure TRUTH
Print True 
End Proc
---------------------

Run it in the editor and it seems fine. (you'll see a -1)
Now compile it and run the compile version.

(Make sure you don't have any work unsaved coz this will most probably crash
your system)


It's not a tremendous bug as i can just replace the True statement with a
-1,but that makes the code less obvious so I wonder if it is fixable:\

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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

JS> ok enough chitter chatter!  I will nominate myself as a kind of project
JS> coordinater/team leader sort of idea.

   Yes, I agree with you.  It has already been 3-4 days since the Pitfall
   Project was first proposed!!!  It should only take a weekend (that's two
   days) to have the majority of the game engine "up n' running"...
   what is the delay?!  Hahahaha.  :-)

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

I'll donate some free space to the coordinator of the project if they get
in touch with me. That way,, the details dont get publicly released
directly. Thanks.

Mush

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 02:58 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

>>My stage is a doddle to integrate,
>>there is just one procedure call for the whole damn thing.  If only everyone
>>else's was that easy..
>
>They were /all/ supposed to be one procedure call each.
>

My morphing hiscore table was one procedure if i remember correctly. Tho
i'll have to dig out my source code from the archives of my HD if it needs
to be changed. I nicked the idea from Solaris on the speccy, but it looks
pretty good.

Mush

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 10:41 PM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote:
>From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>Hi all,
>       Is AMOS still on Usenet, or any other newsgroup, or is the AMOS-List
>the only AMOS group left ???
>
>If it is available on other groups:
>                                    1) is it worth joining ??
>                                    2) How do I do it ??
>
>Is it the same mails as the AMOS-List or not.....??
>
>thanks for your help....
>

When AMOSlist used to be on access.digex.net I would echo the mailings to
alt.religion.amos but I havent been there in a donkey's age. Dunno if it is
even used anymore. In fact. i havent used usenet in months.

Mush

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From: Christopher Kossa <abattoir@erols.com>

Hey patrick...

On 27-Jan-99, didn't you say...
> 1) I think we should stick with the old gfx.

I think somebody mentioned it, (I had about 120 e-mails and I've been in
classes for about 13 hours straight, so my mind is a bit fuzzy :) ) but I
think an option for a "classic" mode would be good.   

> 2) I also like my idea about creating an extra program that can be used 
> the create in a simple way a sort of game wich can be loaded en played. 
> That way there can be 1001 new games wich are different from the real 
> game. It's a sort of level editor.

I also like this idea.  And there could also be custom gfx.

I have Garry Kitchen's Game Maker in D64 on my machine, I'll see if I can
get the source from that.  I think It should make the conversion a little
easier.  Maybe I can rip the gfx from it for a real classic look.  As long
as Activision doesn't mind.

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There is an Amiga Format mail list up and running now, so if you are
interested in joing, just send an email to afb-subscribe@egroups.com

Declan.

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can anyone tell me whats happend to amiga formats web site?

all i get to is futurenet, & cant find any links to af.


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>>also - anyone remember the game called "Hero"..?
>>another activision classic..!!!

Yes, I remember H.E.R.O.  A classic games from my MSX days.

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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

Oke

Project coordinator/team leader: Jericho Swathe

This is what we need:

Coders - Anyone who is interested, apply!

GFX    - Anyone who is interested, apply!
** Same for musicians!

I think the it's up the Jericho to separate the bunch and make them 
start. A classic and new version is a must!

Jericho, let me know if this (you, as leader) is oke.




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I'm definitely in with the Pitfall thing. I'm not much good at
programming but I can do some gfx, suggest new ideas etc. etc....
At the moment I'm learning C and Assembler. Wish me luck!

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Don't forget level designers & beta testers.

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From: "patrick Wesseling" <p_wesseling@hotmail.com>

Oke

Project coordinator/team leader: Jericho Swathe

This is what we need:

Coders - Anyone who is interested, apply!

GFX    - Anyone who is interested, apply!
** Same for musicians!

I think the it's up the Jericho to separate the bunch and make them 
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 28-Jan-99, Leto Kauler wrote:
>way we can have a list of people with what they have nominated to
>do.  Then those ppl keep contacting what-is-name Jericho I think

I'm not trying to crush your hopes, but this won't work. You need someone to
be a complete hardass and bug people *every day* about their code. I know from
Nam that leaving it up to the programmers will result in most of the game
never getting finished. You gotta ride `em every second. Before I started,
there was nothing. Thanks to daily harassment, I got over 6 megs of stuff for
the game.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

LK> way we can have a list of people with what they have nominated to
LK> do.  Then those ppl keep contacting what-is-name Jericho I think
   RGTY> I'm not trying to crush your hopes, but this won't work. You need
   RGTY> someone to be a complete hardass and bug people *every day*
   RGTY> about their code. I know from Nam that leaving it up to the
   RGTY> programmers will result in most of the game never getting finished.
   RGTY> You gotta ride `em every second. Before I started, there was
   RGTY> nothing.  Thanks to daily harassment, I got over 6 megs of stuff
   RGTY> for the game.

      I saw the CBATNAM project as a personal challenge to see just how
      much I could pull out of AMOS and also kind of compete with Keith and
      others.  Granted, it was frustrating at times and that is when the ass
      kicking can help but it all depends on the people in the end.

      The right people are going to complete their assigned work.  I mean
      if a person cannot do that how can they expect to hold a job in the
      real world?  Hahahaha.  :-)

      I am not trying to take anything away from the fine job you did
      Reverend, just pointing out that it is a team effort and even the most
      hardcore hardass can accomplish no more or less than the people
      he is hardassing.

Garfield Benjamin    e-mail: gbenjam@sosbbs.com
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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hey all --

Right, after reading the 40 odd AMOS list emails, I'm gonna go
ahead with the website. I'll let you know when it's up. Then that
way we can have a list of people with what they have nominated to
do.  Then those ppl keep contacting what-is-name Jericho I think
it was... and he can tell us all what needs doing, and can give
me info of what to update the web-site with!

Phew -- big job. I wonder how the "Explorer 2260" ppl do it ;)

I also think (I'm not sure if this is what ppl have planned) that
in menu should have the OPTION of "Classic" or "Modern". It would
be relatively easy to implement I would say.

And guess what -- I've still got photos of the telly with Pitfall
running on it (Atari 2600)... it was for an Atari games club or
something -- HAHA... I scored about 55,000 :)

 -- Leto


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OK, Pitfall, Great ! Classic and New improved version in one ! If anyone out
there is interested I can post screen shots of both Pitfall and Pitfall 2 for
anyone who does not know what it looked like (or you just want to be nostalgic
!) Ive got screen shots of the NES version as well as the Mega Drive version
too, and the Arcade to boot ! If you dont want me to post them here, ask me
and I`ll post them direct !

My views on the New version - I see it as a romp accross the continets sort of
thing, Like a 2d Tomb Raider if you like. More puzzles, but keeping to the
original idea of the game. Similar to the Rick dangerous games if you like !
And thinking of the music, we have to keep the original there...somewhere ! I
still get that tune ringing thru my head from time to time !

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

anyone else in the PA area see the busted amiga on channel 18 (preview
channel)? Its just sat there in GURU mode waiting for someone to reset it,
hehe.

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From: Christopher Kossa <abattoir@erols.com>

Hey Andy...

On 28-Jan-99, didn't you say...
> anyone else in the PA area see the busted amiga on channel 18 (preview
> channel)? Its just sat there in GURU mode waiting for someone to reset
it,
> hehe.

They use Amigas for the "Prevue Guide" channels here in Jersey too.  When
ever my friend's brother uses my Amiga and it crashes, he say the computer
did a "Channel 61".  
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From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi on 29-Jan-99, Andy wrote to me about: [amos-list] Crashed Amiga on TV so I
decided to write back!
>From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

>anyone else in the PA area see the busted amiga on channel 18 (preview
>channel)? Its just sat there in GURU mode waiting for someone to reset it,
>hehe.

Channel 18 - wheres this on sky or sommat?

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi.

If anybody wants to put there name to something for pitfall

Contact me

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Hi, I'ce been desperately seeking Amospro + Amospro compiler.

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>anyone else in the PA area see the busted amiga on channel 18 (preview
>channel)? Its just sat there in GURU mode waiting for someone to reset it,
>hehe.


The local channel (23) did the same once over here in Peterborogh England !
It was fascinating.  I thought, I knew they were using scala for display !

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From: "Michel Bijlsma" <cloak@xs4all.nl>


-----Original Message-----
From: Declan Gorman <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
To: amos-list@onelist.com <amos-list@onelist.com>
Date: donderdag 28 januari 1999 9:34
Subject: [amos-list] Re: Pitfall


>From: "Declan Gorman" <declan_gorman@modusmedia.com>
>
>>>also - anyone remember the game called "Hero"..?
>>>another activision classic..!!!
>
>Yes, I remember H.E.R.O.  A classic games from my MSX days.
>
>Declan.


yeah, who doesn't remember...
i got a mapper done actually for hero, but we cancelled the project...
if you are interesed, let me know
i also have all gfx/sprites/sounds

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Hi all,
       does anyone know where I can obtain the TOME/TAME & AMCAF extensions
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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

> Yeah I agree...if this is supposed to be a *team* effort and the finished
> product looks like a Spectrum reject (although it will have been *made* to
> look that way) ppl are just gonna laugh and not take it seriously.

Years ago I had an Acorn Electron 8 bit computer, (this was a cut down BBC).
Anyway, I had a favorite game, Chucky Egg. The whole family enjoyed the
game. The graphics were for that era typically blocky and the movement was
jerky, but that didn't matter because the game was so good. When I got my
first Amiga (500) I searched for and found a conversion of Chucky Egg for
the Miggy. The graphics were very pretty, the movement was far too fast, the
controllability was poor. The programers had destroyed the playability. No
one in the family ever got past the first screen and it is still in my game
box gathering cobwebs. I don't know Pitfall, but please don't destroy the
*feel* of the original.

Please note my new (home) email <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

This flurry of excitement about Pitfall is good. As a contribution may I
suggest a name for the conversion.  What about an acronym based on '
Amoslist Readers Mails Pitfall' Do you like the sound of ArmPit ???
 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Seriously though I would like to help if I can.
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Will the guy with pictures of Pitfall please send them to me. Thanx

Ciao,

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

If U want 2 help, be my guest.

mail me direct with ur ideas
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Hi Everybody,

> anyone else in the PA area see the busted amiga on channel 18 (preview
> channel)? Its just sat there in GURU mode waiting for someone to reset
it,
> hehe.

Not a very good advert for amigas ;)
   (suppose no-one would no it WAS an amiga if it hadn't though...)

See ya.
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> Anyway, I had a favorite game, Chucky Egg. The whole family enjoyed the
> game. The graphics were for that era typically blocky and the movement was
> jerky, but that didn't matter because the game was so good. When I got my
> first Amiga (500) I searched for and found a conversion of Chucky Egg for
> the Miggy. The graphics were very pretty, the movement was far too fast, the
> controllability was poor. The programers had destroyed the playability. No
> one in the family ever got past the first screen and it is still in my game
> box gathering cobwebs. I don't know Pitfall, but please don't destroy the
> *feel* of the original.

Wow, I remember Chucky Egg. That game was class!!! I had it on my 
really old Dragon 32 - then got a copy of it for my speccy when I 
upgraded. The spectrum version wasn't that bad but it didn't have the 
*feel* of the Dragon version. I think it would be very hard to get 
the same "feel" for Pitfall that everyone remembers - simply because 
no game's the same as people first remember them, and creating a 
certain "feel" is more down to luck than programming skill. 



[BTW if I remember right both me and my sister got to the end of 
chucky egg - but all that happens is you go back to the first screen 
and the timer goes down faster - and that big chicken that chases you 
is faster. Of course, I might not remember right]

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Hello,

This mail is to inform you that AmigaCentral - The Online Amiga Magazine, is
back online after some serious technical problems, we will aim to carry on
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

   I'm writing a top-down shooter (like AlienBreed etc.) for an Amiga
Format readers game (another one). The only probem is that I /really/
can't draw or write music.


   So, anyone that a) has nothing better to do and b) can do some decent
GFX/SFX then I could have a little job for you.

   
And of corce, if I win the £50, then I'll post, say, £15 off to you (or
best offer ;)  (UK resedents *prefered*)
   
   Thanks in advance...

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

COME ON GUYS

I NEED TO KNOW WHOS WANTS TO DO WHAT!

Currently
---------
Giark ___ SFX/SOUND

NEIL  --- Design/(Coding?)

Me    --- Coding/music

WE NEED MORE.

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JERICHO SWATHE.




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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi.

ok, Andy Kellet Of mushypd has kindly donated an ftp & url

so im going to setup a sort of colaboration area where all ideas
& stuff will be dealt with (neat eh!) oh all right then.

anyways i will post the url & ftp as soon as ive discoverd why i cant
seem to upload anything properly.

& remember. NOTING WILL HAPPEN UNLESS YOU!!!! MAKE IT!.

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Greets, everyone.

I've maintained a low profile lately (more busy than you'd believe with
studies, etc.) but I noticed the rekindled subject of CBATNAM lately..

To start off, I'd say that *I* was probably the primary cause (if not half)
for CBATNAM being delayed. Why? The reason is that when it first started
back in '97 (gee, that was awhile ago) I signed up to donate a 3D
Wolfenstien level for use as the Dungeon (the last level). I never got a
chance to finish it (as I was too busy living my life) although I made time
for it that summer and fall, but packed it away after the CBATNAM craze
died down. It was until this PAST summer that I was talking with Brane
about CBATNAM and offered to dig up my source and finish work on it.

I have been working feverishly (more or less) these past winter months and
have it near completion (it only lacks object support and sound). It has
suffered from a little "feature-creep", but I think it's worth it.

I make it my utmost intention to send Brane a demo of the Dungeon this
weekend (expect it no later than Sunday night). If you were an original
beta-tester or level coder on the project, mail him for the demo and try it
out for me, as I need to get some input on it running on different setups.
As for a completion date: not sure.. most DEFINITELY by summer. Anyhow,
mail Brane and GET THE DEMO. If you don't tell me what you think (which I'm
sure you will), then you WON'T see the Dungeon in the final release.

Also, to those previously confused: the original level layout is STILL what
we're using (AFAIK). Brane: I am completing the level I originally signed
up to code, and AFAIK there is to be no hang-glider level (this was only a
suggestion after I considered a complete redo of my level). Sin embargo,
thanks for reading and let me know if you have any questions.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
The official Parrottsoft site at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net up soon.


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On 30-Jan-99, Adam Parrott wrote:
>To start off, I'd say that *I* was probably the primary cause (if not half)
>for CBATNAM being delayed. 

/Tomorrow for sure./ Q8-{)

In all fairness, the system upgrade and concurrent wait for a hd to put things
on slowed my contribution. The complete disappearance of our music guy,
/Evert-Jan Slypen/, slowed things further, as did the system meltdown of
Braneloc, along with his tame artist and animplayer routine. Then, once Brane
had agreed to take over the final compilation, his HD went belly up. IAPA took
what seemed to be mortal blows. Cbat Nam gave us shell shock and group effort
flashback syndrome. Garf is offering to redo the final compile. I still have
all the files. Show me a good response for it and Cbat Nam could be revived.

Oh, no, man. Back in freakin' Nam! Can we handle another tour of duty?

>I make it my utmost intention to send Brane a demo of the Dungeon this
>weekend (expect it no later than Sunday night).

I will not hold my breath. Q8-{)

Whip raised to start cracking again,
                      Rev. Giark
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AP> I make it my utmost intention to send Brane a demo of the Dungeon
AP> this weekend (expect it no later than Sunday night).
   RGTY> I will not hold my breath. Q8-{)

      Hahahaha... that is the interaction I miss.
     Just like old times again!!  LOL

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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hey all --

I've now done a basic Project: PITFALL web-site. Hopefully it
will be able to serve its purpose as a site for information and
organisation. One good thing I've found is the manual to the
original game! Everyone involved should read this as it really
lets you know some good things :)

I've sort of half nominated myself as another co-ordinator,
mainly because I've got to maintain the site ;)

The address is <www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/4280/pitfall/>

It should be running by the time you all get this email ;)

If you want to become official team members (am I allowed to say
this?) email me, tell me what you'd like to help with, and I'll
stick you up on the "Our Team" page.

You can send me your game ideas which I'll put on the originally
named "Game Ideas" page, for which people can vote for. Your idea
get put up, with 0 votes, so only others can vote for it. The
more
votes the more likely it will be implemented.. ???

If anyone has any more screenshots of the original game, please
send them to me. This will be handy for drawing the "Classic"
gfx, and also for sparking new ideas for the modern version.

Anyway, hopefully we can get this thing off the ground soon :)

 -- Leto


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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hi all --

I'm really sorry. It looks like 2 days away is far tooooo long
away :)    I'll try to be on once a day from now on (up goes the
phone bill)

The Geocities site I've done may be temporary, as Jericho has
acquired a different site. We'll see what happens.

  -- Leto

    .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.

       WWW   - http://surf.to/starfish
             - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/4280/


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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>


Hi

>COME ON GUYS
>I NEED TO KNOW WHOS WANTS TO DO WHAT!

>Currently
>---------
>Giark ___ SFX/SOUND

>NEIL  --- Design/(Coding?)

>Me    --- Coding/music

>WE NEED MORE.

>----------------------

I can do some gfx, I'm no Eric Shwartz though ;)


Steve

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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>


Hi.


>   I'm writing a top-down shooter (like AlienBreed etc.) for an Amiga
>Format readers game (another one). The only probem is that I /really/
>can't draw or write music.
>   So, anyone that a) has nothing better to do and b) can do some decent
>GFX/SFX then I could have a little job for you.

What sort of gfx do you want..?

maybe I could knock up a few examples for you..?

Steve


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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi all,
       Does anyone know any good sites (URL or FTP) to dowload any cool AMOS
stuff.

I ask because I've managed to hijack the college PC and can d/l onto disks
and bring them home, thus saving my phone bill =)))

Sites so far#.....

#http://members.xoom.com/AmosFactory/front.html#
BTW - I was told TOME was available here, but it isn't ??
Anyone know where I can get it ??

#http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Camous/6256/amos.html
MAC Disks and various tools.

#
#Also the #aminet/devs/amos# dir on Aminet.
And the #mushypd# FTP site.


Can ppl please add to this site list and maybe state what is available for
d/l ?

And does anyone know of an AMOS webring ?

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Ohhh this list goes on & grows. Currently .

Giark                =   sfx/sound
Neil ives            =   sfx/(coding?)
stephen thonbor      =   gfx
me                   =   coding/music

Come on anyone else want to have a go.

mail me

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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>


>I've now done a basic Project: PITFALL web-site. Hopefully it
>The address is <www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/4280/pitfall/>


Doesn't work on internet exploder..  

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Works fine for me on IBrowse + VoyagerNG

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LK> I've now done a basic Project: PITFALL web-site. Hopefully it
LK> The address is <www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/4280/pitfall/
   KH> Doesn't work on internet exploder..
      
      Also does not work on Netscape Navigator 3.0.  :-(

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JS> Works fine for me on IBrowse + VoyagerNG

   After a quick look at the HTML code you can see that the title was
   not "closed"...
   <head>
      <title>PITFALL - The AMOS Remake
   </head>

   I modified the source to...
      <head>
         <title>PITFALL - The AMOS Remake</title>
      </head>
   ... and was able to beam into the site in using Internet Explorer
   with Java Script warnings however Netscape Navigator only made
   it a little farther before bombing out.

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> JS> Works fine for me on IBrowse + VoyagerNG

Doesn't like netscape 4 at all. All I get is a "P" in the top left 
and that annoying "g" on the bottom right.

Ah well...

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> And does anyone know of an AMOS webring ?


The following will give a list of the sites on the AMOS web ring:

http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=amoscoder;list

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>


Ok. Its growing fast now

sofar.

giark               = sfx/sound
neil ives           = sfx/(coding?)
andy crowe          = gfx/mod supply!
stephen thonbor     = gfx
r!k                 = level design/play testing
me                  = coordinator/coding/web updates
leo kauler          = co-coordinator/website updates

leo could u mail me the login & pass for the geocities space.
as then i can update parts of this site 2. thnx

If u want to get involved mail me direct or leo or post to the list

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

> Doesn't like netscape 4 at all. All I get is a "P" in the top left
> and that annoying "g" on the bottom right.

Garfield found the problem and either Leo or Jerico needs to fix it. As for
the annoying 'g' at the bottom right of the page: it's required. If you
have a site on Geocities', then all your pages will have the 'g' watermark.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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Hello.

Do you guy's know that there is a Playstation version of the old game
Pittfall?
It's called Pittfall 3D and it's really cool, i used to play it alot before 
i got stuck abouth halfway into the game and finally gave up.
The really cool thing about this game is that you can type in a code and you
can play the original Pitfall game with the original GFX and everything,
it's really neat, so get a hold of this game if you got a Playstation, it
will be a nice way to boost you're inspiration for the Amiga version of 
Pittfall, good luck to you all on this project!!!

And now i need some help from you guy's.
I'am coding a diskmag in AmosPro called "Retro" and i'am working on the code 
for issue 4, but i need some help with the textrutine.
I have included a text rutine that a former member of this list wrote for me
a couple of years back, this rutine is exelent, but i want to add colour text,
diffrent fonts and maybee cliparts to the rutine, but i dont know how.

So if anybody can help me with adding this features to the rutine or write
a compleetly new rutine with these features, i'll be very happy!!!

The one who can do this for me will get credits for his work in the diskmag
and i will also be willingly to give you my Amos and Easy Amos programs 
(both in original with the instruction books and everything) pluss some
CD's filled with Amiga stuff sent freely to you're home adress.

So if you're a good AmosPro coder and want to help me out, contact me on:
bole@c2i.net  for more information and so on.


If anybody on this list want to write some articles for the Diskmag they are 
welcome, you can write abouth Amos, games that are beeing worked on or
whatever 
you want, the diskmag will be read by many peoples in the Amiga Scene.
Joust send them to my E-Mail and i'll make sure they are included in the mag.


Thanx!!! 

Morten.



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If leo mails me with the login & pass for the geocities site i

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Hi all


I was trawling through the AFCD34 and I found a few amos goodies
including a file called OS Devkit 20..
but its a demo :(

I'd like some info please :)

a:- is the "Os Devkit" any good.?

b:- how much the the full version

c:- where do I get it?

d:- is there a pd/shareware extension that does the same thing?


TIA


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Hi,
Have any of you heard what kind of speed differences there are between 
OCS-, ECS- and AGA-blitters? I know that in theory ECS-blitter can draw 
almost 1000 000 pixels per second in line-draw mode. But how fast is AGA?

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Hi,
> Have any of you heard what kind of speed differences there are
>between 
> OCS-, ECS- and AGA-blitters? I know that in theory ECS-blitter can
>draw 
> almost 1000 000 pixels per second in line-draw mode. But how fast >is
AGA?

   Well, I don't know how fast the *blitter* on AGA machines are, but I
can tell you that the CPU can refresh a 320x200x256 col. screen at a
maximum of 35 fps. 

   This maximum speed is due to the slow speed of Chip ram.

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From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Leto! And everyone else making html.

GO and get TIDY from Aminet it's a must, it'll fixx
the thing you forgot in the html.

and if you has picked tidy up, then send your hello
to the guy who has moved it to Amiga.

Den 31-Jan-99 skrev Leto Kauler:

LK>  From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>
LK>  
LK>  
LK>  Hey --
LK>  
LK>  You wrote:
LK> >   After a quick look at the HTML code you can see that the
LK>  title
LK> > was not "closed"...
LK>  
LK>  Hehe -- sorry 'bout that. Amiga browsers don't mind that sorta
LK>  thing :)  Fixed now.

With Tidy that kind of err. and any other err. will be history :).


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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Hey --

You wrote:
>   After a quick look at the HTML code you can see that the
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Hehe -- sorry 'bout that. Amiga browsers don't mind that sorta
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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Sorry to all who haven't been able to visit the site. It should
now be ok.

Please note too, that it may be moving soon!

 -- Leto

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From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>


Hi

>stephen thonbor     = gfx

Its "Thornber" actually ;)

and If I'm the only gfx person on this project, then it'll look
naffer than something very naff, I'm no 2d artist..
but things like rendered 3d wooden barrels for the updated
version would be simple for me to do..?

I'd also like to offer my services as "play tester" as I've
played pitfall on many computers, including the original
atari 2600 version.. :)


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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi.

Sorry for the spelling error m8t.

i`ll fix ur name when i update the pitfall cyte.

If u check out the new pitfall cyte ull c ur not the only person doing gfx
theres actually 3 ppl now
cYa.

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From: "Jericho swathe" <jericho@excite.co.uk>

Hi all

Just letting everyone know the pitfall website has moved

u can located the all new updated cyte at.......

HTTP://mushypd.dynip.com/pitfall

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From: "Andy \"Mushroom\" Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>

At 11:24 PM 6/1/78 +0500, you wrote:

>And now i need some help from you guy's.
>I'am coding a diskmag in AmosPro called "Retro" and i'am working on the code 
>for issue 4, but i need some help with the textrutine.
>I have included a text rutine that a former member of this list wrote for me
>a couple of years back, this rutine is exelent, but i want to add colour
text,
>diffrent fonts and maybee cliparts to the rutine, but i dont know how.
>
>So if anybody can help me with adding this features to the rutine or write
>a compleetly new rutine with these features, i'll be very happy!!!
>
>The one who can do this for me will get credits for his work in the diskmag
>and i will also be willingly to give you my Amos and Easy Amos programs 
>(both in original with the instruction books and everything) pluss some
>CD's filled with Amiga stuff sent freely to you're home adress.
>
>So if you're a good AmosPro coder and want to help me out, contact me on:
>bole@c2i.net  for more information and so on.

Heh, extreme AMOS 3 had some coloured text system in it. Its a very simple
procedure, in fact mine was almost babyish. I think i'll release the source
code for it to the public. Ill need to make an archive for it and then ill
mail the list. Feel free to leech what you want.

>
>If anybody on this list want to write some articles for the Diskmag they are 
>welcome, you can write abouth Amos, games that are beeing worked on or
>whatever 
>you want, the diskmag will be read by many peoples in the Amiga Scene.
>Joust send them to my E-Mail and i'll make sure they are included in the mag.
>

I wouldnt mind writing a few articles, thoi I have no idea what about, hehe.

Mush

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From: Neil Ives <neil.ives@btinternet.com>

Hello, all you Amiga/Amosians
Please can I see some pictures of Pitfall. Praps they could be uploadad to
the Pitfall website. It might be tricky to rewrite a game that we havn't
seen.
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

To those CBATNAM vets:

The latest demo of the Dungeon has been completed.
Some features of the features are listed below:

Support for doors added (not complete)
Support for sliding on walls (forward/backward)
Added ray gun which bobs up/down when walking
Replaced the original status bar
Cap'n Bubba icon which reacts to things
Added more toggling options (on/off)
Improved texture mapper (not c2p though)

and more. Brane and Giark have the demo, so if you are an ORIGINAL CBATNAM
beta-tester or programmer and would like to have the demo, mail Braneloc.
When you get it, follow the installation instructions in the docs. I can't
stress how important it is to READ THE FRIGGIN' DOCS. If you can't find a
key or have a feature-related problem and HAVEN'T READ THE DOCS, the DON'T
COME CRYING TO ME, and don't say I didn't warn you first. I know most of
you don't like (sometimes me included) to read the docs, but DO IT. I'm
sure you'll thank me afterwards (and you'll say, "Cool! New feature!").

Nevertheless, run the demo as per the instructions and *please* send me a
report of how well it ran on 1. different setups or 2. different details
(ie. with or without texture mapping, screen sizes, etc.). Until then.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
The official Parrottsoft site at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net up soon.


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From: Lee Marchment <Lee@rgb-bbs.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi on 31-Jan-99, Stephen wrote to me about: [amos-list] OS DevKit so I decided
to write back!
>From: Stephen Thornber <SThornber@steve1.demon.co.uk>



>Hi all


>I was trawling through the AFCD34 and I found a few amos goodies
>including a file called OS Devkit 20..
>but its a demo :(

>I'd like some info please :)

>a:- is the "Os Devkit" any good.?

>b:- how much the the full version

>c:- where do I get it?

>d:- is there a pd/shareware extension that does the same thing?


Yeah OS developers kit is kewl, it's a same its a demo tho!

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From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>

Hi Andy!

Den 09-Feb-99 skrev Andy Gibson:


AG> > What the hell, here it is, the source for one and all
AG>  
AG>  Hmm...is it just me or does Amos Pro V2 have probs with the source
AG>  sent to this list?

It works like a charm on my AmosPRO 2.x, what is the prob.???


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From: Minion2197@aol.com

Well, youve all had time to look at it, and I hope you enjoyed playing it too
(those of you that could). The frst 10 levels both forwards and backwards
where taken straight from the Atari original (I know, I played it non stop to
get it right !). But anyway, Is the NEW version based on this game or are we
intending to right a varient of the "Pitfall 2 -The lost caverns". This one
was an up/down screen  scroller set over 80 screens for all those that dont
remeber this, and Im already part way righting that. If anyones interested I
shall post that on to Leto to put on the site (for those that dont like the
downloads !) for all too see ! This one will be PROPERLY coded and spec`d this
time round !

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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>

Hi!

I'm sorry :(((((( Probably you've sent 10.000 flames in the 500 unreaded
messages in my mailbox.... i'm not dead, the Amos support isn't dead

                                      ---- my Amiga was dead ------

but finally my Amiga works again!! Repair a Amiga here in Italy is damned
difficult!!!
I was offline since December.. doh!

I've just received my Amiga today... let me some time (1-2 days) to organise
the work and i'll post a complete Amos report on the list.


P.S In this 2 days don't send me e-mails :))) My mailbox is full... the
report will come soon  I PROMISE! ;)


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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>>  Hmm...is it just me or does Amos Pro V2 have probs with the source
>>  sent to this list?

> It works like a charm on my AmosPRO 2.x, what is the prob.???

   Theres nothing wrong with the sorce, it was the compiled version that
for some reason he sent as an AMOS procedure. AMOSPro didn't like that
version at all, 'cos it was with AMOS1.35, was it not?

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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi all,
       does anyone know of any gfx artists interested in working on a few
projects....

If so mail me.....privately =)

cYa
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I hate dynamic domain garbage. Try this address out.
 
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On 31-Jan-99, Sasu Lintula wrote:

>Have any of you heard what kind of speed differences there are between 
>OCS-, ECS- and AGA-blitters? I know that in theory ECS-blitter can draw 

The OCS, ECS and AGA blitters are equally fast.
Well... In a given resolution AGA is using a smaller amount of the
bitplane-DMA bandwidth than ECS/OCS - and hence the blitting operations will
be faster.
But the blitter itself has the same speed.

If you don't use more than half of the bandwidth then the blitter will not be
slowed down at all.
Half bandwidth is:
AGA: SHires,4planes  or  Hires,8Planes
ECS/OCS: Shires,1plane  or  Hires,2planes  or  Lores,4planes


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On 25-Jan-99, John Glanville wrote:
>From: "John Glanville" <John.Glanville@btinternet.com>

>Sorry! Do you have to have a signature?

Damn, I asked for that, didn't I...? :)

>100,000 lemmings can't be wrong!

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From: Rune Zedeler <rune@zedeler.dk>

On 09-Feb-99, Keith Hill wrote:

>    a=abs(this) Mod 20
>    if this<0 then a=-a

make that

a=(abs(THIS) Mod 20)*Sgn(THIS)

Yeah, trainspotting, I know :)


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RZ> The OCS, ECS and AGA blitters are equally fast...

   Hmm... I am not certain but I think the AGA blitter can operate in
   32-bit mode which allows it to move twice as much data as the
   OCS/ECS 16-bit blitter in the "same" amount of time.
   Maybe I am just daydreaming.  :)

Garfield Benjamin    e-mail: gbenjam@sosbbs.com
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From:           	"Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
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> From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
> 
> RZ> The OCS, ECS and AGA blitters are equally fast...
> 
>    Hmm... I am not certain but I think the AGA blitter can operate in
>    32-bit mode which allows it to move twice as much data as the
>    OCS/ECS 16-bit blitter in the "same" amount of time.
>    Maybe I am just daydreaming.  :)
> 
> Garfield Benjamin    e-mail: gbenjam@sosbbs.com
> Website: http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam   
> 
Ah, I read through all my old amy-mags and found out the same 
thang. Have you heard that C= actually lost all of their 
documentation of OCS-chips before they started to plan AGA.
ECS is just a result of C=s trial to understand how the OCS works. 
AGA is nothing more than 8-bitplane 'update' of ECS:P 
Don't get me wrong but AGA is quite sad try:( - there are so many 
unforgettable mistakes in it, f.ex. different data fetches. I don't 
mean that AGA is lame but it should be much better...  

-Sasu Lintula



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From: Leto Kauler <letok@netspace.net.au>


Has anyone ever tried to use more than 67 bobs in AMOS Pro 1.3??
Or a bob with a number higher than 67?

I'm trying to make a sequel to my *eCHAOS* bomberman game. It
needs quite a number of Bobs to show all the flame from
explosions. I'm thinking I'll need about 80-100 bobs for
_everything_.

Now, I've set AMOS Interpreter prefs to run with that number of
Bobs and eveything works fine....... UNTIL I compile it!  In a
compiled version it will NOT allow any bobs above no. 67.... it
just quits with "Illegal function call".

I've checked that Compiler is using "S:AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config"
... and that's where AMOS saves it to........... what's going on?

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Just to let you know, I cleaned up the bubba website, and added, (no way, I
hear you say)... an update !

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Subject: [amos-list] I'm going away !
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From: Phil Price <cb.price@ukonline.co.uk>

To Whom this may concern,

First of all, i'm sorry for posting this to list's but 
it's one of the best way's to reach everyone i know,
anyway.. I'm going on a lovly holiday to Italy, were
i'm going skiing for a week. So of cource i won't be
able to work on any of the projects i'm involved in,
or awnser any of your mails (but send them any way,
i'll reply to them when i get back). The dates
are Friday the 12th of Feb till Sunday the 21st Feb..

Anyway hope you all have a great time whilst i'm in 
italy :)

P.S. If you here any one asking were I am plase tell them.

Yours
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From: "Keith Hill" <Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk>

>Just to let you know, I cleaned up the bubba website, and added, (no way, I
>hear you say)... an update !

Hey, I also just got hold of some video editing software....

peecee unfortunately, but I might be able to manage....

cyagain.

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From nobody Thu Feb 11 13:05:35 1999
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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.nws.net>

On 11-Feb-99, Keith Hill wrote:
>Just to let you know, I cleaned up the bubba website, and added, (no way, I
>hear you say)... an update !

What a nice birthday present.

Well met and godspeed,
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From: r!K <rik@riks-room.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi all,
       Well, I want to create a progress bar.

In the docs it says "create a text gadget with the default string set to
PBAR and the GUI converter will do the rest".

Well, I did this and I can't seem to get a working one =((

Can anyone send any example source (with GUI) to me personally or just an
example to the list.

Thanks in advance.

cYa
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

>>    a=abs(this) Mod 20
>>    if this<0 then a=-a

> make that

> a=(abs(THIS) Mod 20)*Sgn(THIS)

   Well, thanks but, I didn't actually want -1 mod 20 to be -1 (dang). 

What I was trying to do with it needed -1 mod 20 to be 19. 

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to do

repeat
   add a,20
until a>0
x=a mod 20




See ya.
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Everybody,

> Has anyone ever tried to use more than 67 bobs in AMOS Pro 1.3??
> Or a bob with a number higher than 67?

> I'm trying to make a sequel to my *eCHAOS* bomberman game. It
> needs quite a number of Bobs to show all the flame from
> explosions. I'm thinking I'll need about 80-100 bobs for
> _everything_.

> Now, I've set AMOS Interpreter prefs to run with that number of
> Bobs and eveything works fine....... UNTIL I compile it!  In a
> compiled version it will NOT allow any bobs above no. 67.... it
> just quits with "Illegal function call".

> I've checked that Compiler is using "S:AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config"
> ... and that's where AMOS saves it to........... what's going on?

   Well, I'm not sure why it won't work, but if I were you I wouldn't
use bobs to do the flames, that would be much slower then using, say,
Icons to draw the flame. 

   I think you should probably edit it to use icons insted I'm afraid.

See ya.
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