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From: Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@club-internet.fr>

    Hi everybody,

 Here are some questions about Amos Pro 2.0, have you got 
the answer for some of these ?

 1) Where is the Amos web site ?

 2) Are there any extentions or patchs to save Bob Banks
    to FAST RAM ? and for Sample Banks, Music Banks. 
    In fact, can we use FAST RAM for something when 
    programming in Amos ?
 
 3) Does it exist any update of the original Music Bank Maker ?
 
 4) How can I test (if possible) multikey pression : 
    for example I need to test if the keys 'a' and 'z' (and 
    some others) are pressed together.
 
 5) Is there a possibility to loop voices or samples 
    independantly ?
    (samloop on/off acts always on the four channels and 
    all samples)


Thank you very much for helping me !

            Sylvain

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 01-Jul-98, Zangiacomi Sylvain wrote:
> 1) Where is the Amos web site ?

Which one?

> 5) Is there a possibility to loop voices or samples 
>    independantly ?
>    (samloop on/off acts always on the four channels and 
>    all samples)

Try using a pattern with it.

Sam Loop On : Sam Loop Off %1010

That makes voices 2 and 4 loop, 1 and 3 not.

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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

Dear Amos-ers,
I'm having a problem with a programme which is using Dir First$ then Dir Next$
to scan folders for sequential text files for subsequent manipulation. The
problem is twofold; 
Firstly, these commands append a space to the start of the filename and the
file size to the end of the name. This can be worked around easily enough, but
is there an alternative? I thought there may be a Config item, but have
searched to no avail.
Secondly, and more importantly, some files with very long names are truncated
by Dir Next$, so when you then use this command to open the files you'll get a
'File Not Found', e.g. if the file names were, say "An extremely long
filename_Seq", and "A shortie_Seq"
F$=Dir Next$
Rem: This will return F$ as " An extremely long filXX" Note the extra leading
space and the file size (XX) and " A Shortie                XX"
P=Instr(F$,"_Seq") : Rem Find the end of the filename (and make sure it's one
that I'm after) So this will fail for the long filenames
F$ = Mid$(F$,2,P+2) : Rem Lose the leading space, and truncate to the end of
"_Seq"
Open In 1,F$
Doesn't work for long filenames, and retreats with a 'File Not Found'
Any ideas?
Rod

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Hi All

> o. I what a small (30x30 ish) Spinnig Logo, Or summint, My Screen Is a
>640x256      one but I what My logo to be normal (square) 320x256
>dimensions, Also , I        what my 0 colour to be transp. :) How Do I go
>About doing this, I have not a     clue, thnax .

Do you mean like the tv logos in the top-right of the screen.

The best way of doing this is to use a sprite amal animation. The logo
will be lowres (so you'll have to change the anim) but it will be
lowres even on hires screens and it will be transparent and will
not affect changes on screen. The only problem is that it'll have to
have the right palette in colours 16-31.

I've sent an example of how that works.

The other questions have been answered by Peter Cahill, and I'm sure
if you look in PD libs you'll find good examples of both.


See ya.


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On 26-jun-98 Alastair Murray wrote:

>From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>

>Firstly a suggestion to the people coding the new AMOS. Because of 
>all the problems with AMOS now and again I get really annoyed with it 
>and consider leaving it to code in something else. Knowing that a new 
>version is being produced is very good for keeping me with it but 
>when I don't hear anything about it I get a bit disillusioned again.
>How about giving us regular progress reports so we know how it is 
>going and what it will be like?

>Secondly... bloody AMOS compiler.
>My program Backbone is getting quite large now and all of a sudden 
>AMOS refuses to compile it (with or without GUI compiler). Usually it 
>just stops dead 30% of the way through but on the rare occasion when 
>it does compile it, the program doesn't work. Errors are also 
>reported where there aren't any. Once it even wrote a 10MB file onto 

If I renember correctly some years ago someone posted a list
of possible causes of problems with the compiler to the amoslist.
Try to find it in the archives on Aminet. Some things are:

- Large amount of data lines in the program
- Icon banks (uneven length??)
- Bug in amospro compiler. One line in the amospro compiler needs to
  be changed in order to allow all extension slots to work with the compiler.

>Thanks,
>-Murray

>--

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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 01-Jul-98, Phil Price wrote:

>Hello Amos Guru's,

Hi!

>Right I have more questions, Coz Of more things to add to my Music Disk :)
>Also thnx for all yourhelp on other points, I have found your the best list
>Out of all the ones in on :)

> o. I what a small (30x30 ish) Spinnig Logo, Or summint, My Screen Is a
>640x256      one but I what My logo to be normal (square) 320x256
>dimensions, Also , I        what my 0 colour to be transp. :) How Do I go
>About doing this, I have not a     clue, thnax .

Is your logo 30x30, or 320x256 ?!?
well, you can either have all frames saved as diffrent bobs or a Iffanim
or you can code up some asm routine to rotate it.

> o. How do I create a text scoller on some part of my screen , that Jut     
>        displayes, preset text, I woull like the font to be anything, exept
>Topaz.       :/, prefebly my own font :)

Theres a example of how to do this some where an the prodictivity2 disk.

> o. How do I create a vu-meter, (Protraker and Old Octamed Style) in some
>coner      of my screen ?!?

simple, VERY simple ;D
just use =Vumeter(chan), where chan is music channel 0-3.
then it will return how loud the current sample/tune is playing
in the channel, I think its a number between 1-64.
The just draw a box or something with the result of the vumeter added on.

I think that there is a few examples of this on Mushs site.

>wel thnx for all your help, I know this all seems like I'm adding Ponintless
>Eyecady , but It has to be done :) I have to keep the end usser interested
>in the Music, and kepping thier computeron :)

hehe

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Can someone translate this for me?  Thanks.

Michael Cox
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> Ihre Nachricht ist zugestellt worden :
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Is AMOS' rotate the same as shifting?  I know left shifting is
multiplying a number by 2 to some power (i.e. 3 << 24 = 3 * 2^24).  I am
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On 01-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:
>Firstly, these commands append a space to the start of the filename and the
>Secondly, and more importantly, some files with very long names are truncated

Annoying, but true. The best way around it is to use the GUI extension. Not
only will your prog be on the wb screen (or at least in intuition) it will use
the amiga file requesters. If you'd rather the program do it itself, try this:

Exec "Dir >RAM:temp YourDirHere"
Open In 1,"RAM:Temp"
<scan for filenames>
Close 1
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Well met and godspeed,
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From: Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@club-internet.fr>

Le 01-Juil-98, Mr. Giark To You a écrit:

>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

>On 01-Jul-98, Zangiacomi Sylvain wrote:
>> 1) Where is the Amos web site ?

>Which one?

I don't know any, so one of the more interesting about
extentions for exemple.

>> 5) Is there a possibility to loop voices or samples 
>>    independantly ?
>>    (samloop on/off acts always on the four channels and 
>>    all samples)

>Try using a pattern with it.

>Sam Loop On : Sam Loop Off %1010

>That makes voices 2 and 4 loop, 1 and 3 not.

>Well met and godspeed,
>                      Giark

Thank you very much for Sam Loop !


 
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From: Richard Griffith <ragriffi@sprynet.com>

On 02-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

>Can someone translate this for me?  Thanks.

>> Ihre Nachricht ist zugestellt worden :
 Their message was set:
>> 
>> An         : EMP:poseidon@canta.gun.de
>> Betreff    : BET:cdplayer.library
>> Message-ID : MID:1112AA6D60EDD011B7EE00805F31E03E08D05C@USHEM201
>> Route      : ROT:Canta.gun.de!nature.gun.de!easix
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Hinweis: Dies ist keine Bestõtigung, ob oder wann
>>          die Nachricht gelesen wurde.
>> ---------------------------------------------------
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Not much to go on, I'm afraid. Just seems to be a delivery
confirmation.

FYI: check out http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/

Very good rough cut translation to and from english for several
major languages. No where near perfect, but *very* good for the
price (free!) Does a very credible job at translating complete
web pages, too.

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This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Tuesday 30-Jun-98
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So here's a reply...

Hi there,


>From: Phil Price <cb.price@ukonline.co.uk>

> o. I what a small (30x30 ish) Spinnig Logo
> I have not a clue, thnax .

You'll have to double the lines of the logo! Use Amal to spin it under
interupt so that it spins the frames and won't be effected by the main
loop :)

> o. How do I create a text scoller on some part of my screen , that Jut     
>    displayes, preset text, I woull like the font to be anything, exept
>Topaz.       :/, prefebly my own font :)

Email me privately and I'll send ya some text scroller code which uses
either fonts or iff fonts (bobs). It's quite easy to do actually.

> o. How do I create a vu-meter...

Again, I can send ya some code :)

>wel thnx for all your help, I know this all seems like I'm adding Ponintless
>Eyecady , but It has to be done :)

What  you want to do is get a hold of the Amos CD! It's full of source
code  which  would fullfill ALL your needs above. Check out some sites
to see how cheaply it can be bought for these days...

Good luck.

-- 
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk
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Sorry.  The address before was wrong.  Its inextsoft.home.ml.org.  Thanks!

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Visit my web page at <a
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Can someone please list any problems there are with AMOS and 060's and
the solution (if any).
I'm particularly interested in how 060s affect the AMOS Compiler and
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Hi All

I have just spotted a new AMOS only web site, covered in extentions and games
try it at.
WWW.angelfire.com/ok/Dogski - capital "D". While your there sign the guestbook.

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Hi All

I have just spotted a new AMOS only web site, covered in extentions and games
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----------
> Hi All
>
> > o. I what a small (30x30 ish) Spinnig Logo, Or summint, My Screen Is a
> >640x256      one but I what My logo to be normal (square) 320x256
> >dimensions, Also , I        what my 0 colour to be transp. :) How Do I go
> >About doing this, I have not a     clue, thnax .
>
> Do you mean like the tv logos in the top-right of the screen.
>
> The best way of doing this is to use a sprite amal animation. The logo
> will be lowres (so you'll have to change the anim) but it will be
> lowres even on hires screens and it will be transparent and will
> not affect changes on screen. The only problem is that it'll have to
> have the right palette in colours 16-31.
>
> I've sent an example of how that works.
>
> The other questions have been answered by Peter Cahill, and I'm sure
> if you look in PD libs you'll find good examples of both.
>
>
> See ya.
>
>
> --
> <PRE>
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Is that artstudio PD or .AMOS if so where can i get it coz it looks cool.Ta



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Hi All

I have just spotted a new AMOS only web site, covered in extentions and games
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From: "A.Graham" <7355@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>

Hi All

I have just spotted a new AMOS only web site, covered in extentions and games
try it at.
www.angelfire.com/ok/Dogski - capital "D". While your there sign the guestbook.

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Hi All

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>> | andrewcrowe@enterprise.net |         AsciiArt Studio               |
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>Is that artstudio PD or .AMOS if so where can i get it coz it looks cool.Ta

   AsciiArt Studio is an Amos program, and is released as shareware on
aminet (look up 'asciiart' for various versions). 

Its the first serious utilitie i've written, but its old and buggy now.

It really needs a total re-write, but no-one seemed to bothered about
it, maybe if I get more support...


See ya.  


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Hello Hakan

On 04-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof smashed the keyboard with:
> From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>
> 
> Could someone send info
> about what extensions are good...
> 

That sure depends on what you'd like to make, but if we take a look at 
the 'free' ones, I'd say that 'EasyLife' and 'JD' is the ones that can
be of general use.. 'GUI' is usefull to support intuition and AGA, while
'tools' is great for 'advanced' use. 'Locale' is ofcourse some very
powerfull support of the locale.library, and 'DOOM' is the best music-
player around.. Among shareware/comercial extensions the 'AMCAF' will
always be usefull, OS_DevKit gives some very powerfull support of
the system (Intuition, AGA, locale, etc..), I don't think I have to
mention the compiler. LDos and LSerial is only availeble in a version
with a stupid error-requester (The author don't support amiga anymore),
but if you make sure you call the commands the right way then there's
no problems with that, LDos supports disc-commands and AREXX while
LSerial is the most powerfull access to the serial-port I've ever
seen.. The Craft extension can also be usefull, if you can find
it anywhere.. Finaly I most mention the Turbo+ V2.0 as a very powerfull
graphic-oriented extension, but the author don't appear to support
it anymore so either go for a 'illegal' version or get the old
freeware 'Turbo' extension...

All in all, extensions is a matter of personal taste, it depends
on what you like to program (games/demos/utilities), and how you
want things to work. I LOVE the OS_DevKit, becourse it gives
some direct access to the system and intuition, others prefer the
GUI for the same job becourse it's more 'idiot-proof'... I think
just about anyone on this list has some extension that he/she thinks
is the best becourse "- It's just what I need.." 
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Could someone send info
about what extensions are good...

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> 1) Where is the Amos web site ?

The official site is http://www.seta.it/amos/ 
It's called "The AMOS Factory".

> 2) Are there any extentions or patchs to save Bob Banks
>    to FAST RAM ? and for Sample Banks, Music Banks. 
>    In fact, can we use FAST RAM for something when 
>    programming in Amos ?

For samples, the trick is to store them in a Data Bank in Fast RAM, and
reserve a much smaller Data Bank in Chip RAM, the size of the biggest sample.
When you want to play a sample, copy it from Fast RAM to Chip RAM (using Copy)
and then play it from the Chip Bank (using Sam Raw). It's very fast, and not
too complicated.
There is no 'realistic' solution for Bobs.

> 4) How can I test (if possible) multikey pression : 
>    for example I need to test if the keys 'a' and 'z' (and 
>    some others) are pressed together.

Use 'If Scancode() And Scancode() Then...'
But beware, the letters won't have the same scancode on a QWERTY and an AZERTY
keyboard...

Regards to all (et salut à toi!)

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>> 4) How can I test (if possible) multikey pression : 
>>    for example I need to test if the keys 'a' and 'z' (and 
>>    some others) are pressed together.

>Use 'If Scancode() And Scancode() Then...'
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AZERTY
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Oops! I meant 'If Key State(scancode) And Key State(scancode)
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

Thanx to Jens Vang Petersen for your info about extensions.

Now I try the GUIextension first.

When installing GUIextension I'm supposed to install...

>>>These programs are the GUI Bank converter, the Hotlinks 
>>>editor, and the image editor

Where is the image editor?

I find the other two in GUIExtension_V1.70/Accessories/
but not the image editor.



I'm supposed to create AMOS GUI bank with the program Make GUI Bank
but I can't find that prog either...


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On 05-Jul-98, Phil Price wrote:
>From: Phil Price <cb.price@ukonline.co.uk>

Hi

>On 05-Jul-98, you wrote:
>>   I've had this problem before, I think it may be because there is
>> an S drawer in your Amos pro drawer. This means that although the
>> Config editor saves S:AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config Amos actually
>> reads the file at AMOSPro_System:S/AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config.
>> 

>I've found my Probkem :) But Now It says Cann't load Extension use Defualt ,
>or summint , So I can't even load AMos up :( Can U send me your Interpreter
>Config, ??? I need Dom Music and GUI Loaded and all the defualt ones,  Also
>Easylife, But Can U send me your ?

Put the extensions in:
AMOSPro_System:APSystem/

THEN it will work ;D
or you dont have the extension in the correct slot#, look in the docs
for each extension to find the correct slot #.

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Hello Amos'ers,

'm getting rally anoyed with AmosPro, When I add xtensions
(GUI,DoomMusic,AmCafe) None of them werk, Even though They are in the
interpter Loaded Extensions when I look, :( This is really a problem, All
then extension's Peograms say Exension [x] not loaded :( Is there any thing
that can fix this, I have installed all the .lib files to APSysytem, All
these problems have happedned after I Archived Amos, and split it into 800k
files to stick onto disk before my HD For,,at (Chusksum Eroor) Can U hel me
, PLEASE ? I remeber this happening before also, The only extenino that I
have added si the EasyLife 1 , that werks :(

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Hi All,

>Hello Amos'ers,

>'m getting rally anoyed with AmosPro, When I add xtensions
>(GUI,DoomMusic,AmCafe) None of them werk, Even though They are in the
>interpter Loaded Extensions when I look, :( This is really a problem, All
>then extension's Peograms say Exension [x] not loaded :( Is there any thing
>that can fix this, I have installed all the .lib files to APSysytem, All
>these problems have happedned after I Archived Amos, and split it into 800k
>files to stick onto disk before my HD For,,at (Chusksum Eroor) Can U hel me
>, PLEASE ? I remeber this happening before also, The only extenino that I
>have added si the EasyLife 1 , that werks :(

   I've had this problem before, I think it may be because there is
an S drawer in your Amos pro drawer. This means that although the
Config editor saves S:AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config Amos actually
reads the file at AMOSPro_System:S/AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config.

The simple way to fix this is to delete the S drawer in you Amospro
folder.

   If this is not the case then I'd have no idea what it could be :(


Hope it works now, see ya.


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Hello Andrew

On 05-Jul-98, you wrote:
>   I've had this problem before, I think it may be because there is
> an S drawer in your Amos pro drawer. This means that although the
> Config editor saves S:AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config Amos actually
> reads the file at AMOSPro_System:S/AMOSPro_Interpreter_Config.
> 

I've found my Probkem :) But Now It says Cann't load Extension use Defualt ,
or summint , So I can't even load AMos up :( Can U send me your Interpreter
Config, ??? I need Dom Music and GUI Loaded and all the defualt ones,  Also
Easylife, But Can U send me your ?
 
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Hello

I'am very interested in you're Game extension, so can you PLEASE mail me
some information abouth the extension and when it will be released.

I'am also very interested in beta testing it, so if you need another beta 
tester, i'll be extremly happy to do it!!!


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From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@EUnet.no>


Hello.

I need a way to unpack modules that are packed with PowerPacker, XPK and other
similar packers, and store the unpacked file in Ram:
Is this possible to do with AmosPro??

Also, can some of you that are experts in Internet try to trace this E-mail
adress: Playstation@softhome.net  And see if you can find out who gets their 
E-mail from this adress, is it possible to trace???

You should also contact me privatly if you have a Playstation.


Thanx 


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Here is another question that i desperatly need help with.

I cant manage to make a box appear around the article names in my diskmag
when you place the pointer on a article name, any ideas on how i should 
go about doing this.
If you dident understand what i ment, take a look at the menus in Amos Pro
when you hold right mousebutton and drag the pointer over a menu option a 
black square shows up aroud the text, this is what i want for my diskmag, but
the square has to be white.
I use the text command to print the article names on the screen and i use
set zone to set up the zones around the article names.
Any idea's???

Pleez help me with this one.


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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 05-Jul-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE  gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES  aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG 
sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,  sPRITES aND aLL tHE oTHER
kEWL THINGS lIKE cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE mEMORY bANK eNCYRPTION tHAT aNY cODER
cOULD
 http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html 

So it's available now? Just checked. Still no release. Come on, Pete, pump it
out!

Well met and godspeed,
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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

Hiya everyone,

I  know this has been covered a 100 times before and Pietro even has a
bug  fixed  version  of  the  Amos.Library  out  there,  but I'm kinda
confused!

I  have a 3.0 kickstart machine and obviously have never had a problem
with displaying interlace screens.

But to be on the safe side, I now use the library from pietro's site.

Anyway,  I  managed  to get the 3.1 rom file from a m8s Amiga and have
mapped  it  into  mine  using  Blizkick.  So  I decided to try the old
Amos.Library to see this interlace bug.

No matter what I have tried, I still can't get the bug to work!

In  other words, I can still display interlace screens with no problem
at all!

I  want  to  make sure that all my future productions will display the
interlace  screens,  but seeing as I can't create the bug (even on 3.1
with  the old Amos.Library), how can I be 100% certain my screens will
show on a real 3.1 amiga?

Any1 got any ideas?

And  if Andy Kellett is reading this, PLEASE get in touch as you don't
seem to be getting my private emails!!!

TTFN

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Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not
support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text.
To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader.

This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer.
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>go about doing this.

Hi,

Here's the simplest method I can think of:





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   YG=YO+(I-1)*FH
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From: "Nathan Reynolds" <shakester@cyberjunkie.com>

>Also, can some of you that are experts in Internet try to trace this E-mail
>adress: Playstation@softhome.net  And see if you can find out who gets
their
>E-mail from this adress, is it possible to trace???


Well, I'm not an expert, but I'll try and help anyhow!  Do you mean that you
want to know where the e-mail is forwarded to?  (softhome.net is an e-mail
forwarding service)  Their web page states that you need a password to gain
access to account information, and that they won't release this information
to anyone.  This means you can't find out the address the mail is forwarded
to or the account owners name.  I also tried fingering the account, but
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From: jono@enti.demon.co.uk (Jonathan Jones)

This maybe a stupid question, but has anyone got 
the full Amos Pro to sell to me? 

If not do you know where I can get it?

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Hi Jonathan,

> This maybe a stupid question, but has anyone got
> the full Amos Pro to sell to me?
> 
Try Mush at... Andrew Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>

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From bounce-amos-list--242-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul  6 13:17:49 1998
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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 05-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

>So it's available now? Just checked. Still no release. Come on, Pete, pump it
>out!

WAIT WAIT ;D
At the moment, Im waiting for the author of GMS to fix some GMSbugs, he said
that he would
fix 'em today, so I'll probably get a newer GMS tomorrow, with the bug fix, so
then I'll
finish off the gfx stuff, then just CDDA is left...(which wont that long at
all....)

Also, if I read your daily 'Hurry up with TGE' mail, it even wastes more time ;D
It will be out soon, and the sooner I get that bug fix, the sooner I'll release
a beta.

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Hi!

I need a help... GUI Extension users, please test the program attached here.

I need to know if it works correctly, *EXPECIALLY WITH GFX CARDS!*

This program should obtain the same effect of the Gui Clone command..... run
it and select a *NON-PAL* screen mode. Gfx Card users MUST select a CyberGfx
screen mode. You should see a 640x256 screen with 2 filled circles..... let me
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From bounce-amos-list--241-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul  6 09:36:29 1998
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On 06-Jul-98, Pietro Ghizzoni wrote:
>I need a help... GUI Extension users, please test the program attached here.

Done.

>screen mode. You should see a 640x256 screen with 2 filled circles..... let
me
>know.

Yes, I did. My setup is listed in my sig. 

Well met and godspeed,
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From bounce-amos-list--243-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul  6 13:54:40 1998
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On 06-Jul-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
>WAIT WAIT ;D

I don't want to! Q8-{)

>finish off the gfx stuff, then just CDDA is left...(which wont that long at
>all....)

How about that Iconify code?

>Also, if I read your daily 'Hurry up with TGE' mail, it even wastes more time
>;D

It's not daily. Well, it is now, because you are replying.

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From bounce-amos-list--246-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul  6 19:34:56 1998
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On 06-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

>>finish off the gfx stuff, then just CDDA is left...(which wont that long at
>>all....)

>How about that Iconify code?

Oh yeah, I forgot about it ;D
I'll do it tomorrow.

>>Also, if I read your daily 'Hurry up with TGE' mail, it even wastes more time
>>;D

>It's not daily. Well, it is now, because you are replying.

hehe, Ok OK OK oOooOOOOOOooooKKkkKKkKKK, I'll hurry it up !


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Hi Pietro,


   I'm afraid that you program didn't open an NTSC screen, it failed
on the Gui Screen Open line with a blank error line (?!). It did open
PAL DBLPAL DBLNTSC MULTISCAN A2024 EURO72 EURO:36Hz EURO:72Hz SUPER72 
screen modes though. Although my monitor couldn't display most of
those modes anyway, NTSC was the only one that failed to open.

   My Amiga is as follows : A1200, 25mhz 040, 16meg fast, WB 3.0


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From bounce-amos-list--245-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul  6 17:28:08 1998
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From: Deano@zetnet.co.uk (Deano)

I have fixed some bugs in this game. If you have downloaded it before
then please re-download archives Disk1.lha and Disk3.lha as they are
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HI ALL
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 06-Jul-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
>>How about that Iconify code?
>Oh yeah, I forgot about it ;D

Typical programmer mentality. I do the same thing.

>I'll do it tomorrow.

I wait with bated breath.

>>It's not daily. Well, it is now, because you are replying.
>hehe, Ok OK OK oOooOOOOOOooooKKkkKKkKKK, I'll hurry it up !

Okay then. Q8-{)

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HI ALL
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

Using the highligths program that was sent here earlier
by Bernie Noel <bnoel@club-internet.fr>
I wonder how to print many 'Options' on screen in
columns, something like this:



Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    


I need something like 45 different Options.




The program must be in Hires.
The colour of each option can be the same.



I'd also like to know how to print it like this:

Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    

Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    

Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    




The program is here:




Screen Open 0,640,240,16,Hires
Curs Off : Flash Off : Cls 0

' Initialize text and zones

Reserve Zone 450


Screen Open


FH=8 : Rem font height
XO=12 : YO=8
Ink 6,0

Restore OPTIONS

For I=1 To 450
   Read T$
   YG=YO+(I-1)*FH
   Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
   Set Zone I,XO,YG To XO+Text Length(T$),YG+FH-1
Next 


Repeat 
   Z=Mouse Zone
   If Z
      YG=YO+(Z-1)*FH
      Ink 6,2
      Restore OPTIONS
      For I=1 To Z : Read T$ : Next 
      Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
      Repeat 
         If Mouse Click : Cls 
         Print "You choosed ";T$ : Exit 2 : End If 
      Until Mouse Zone<>Z
      Ink 6,0
      Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
   End If 
Until Mouse Click
'
Clear key
Wait key  
Edit


'
OPTIONS:
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"
Data "Option 1","Option 2","Option 3","Option 4","Option 5"















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From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@EUnet.no>

On 06-Jul-98, Nathan Reynolds wrote:
>From: "Nathan Reynolds" <shakester@cyberjunkie.com>

>>Also, can some of you that are experts in Internet try to trace this E-mail
>>adress: Playstation@softhome.net  And see if you can find out who gets
>their
>>E-mail from this adress, is it possible to trace???


>Well, I'm not an expert, but I'll try and help anyhow!  Do you mean that you
>want to know where the e-mail is forwarded to?  (softhome.net is an e-mail
>forwarding service)  Their web page states that you need a password to gain
>access to account information, and that they won't release this information
>to anyone.  This means you can't find out the address the mail is forwarded
>to or the account owners name.  I also tried fingering the account, but
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I think the informatin softhome has is fake, what i want to know is it 
possible to trace the e-mail to his house.
Is it possible to trace him when he downloads his mail, so you can find 
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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 08-Jul-98, Adam Parrott wrote:

>Has anyone seen Mush around? And for that matter, has anyone seen Keith
>(Braneloc) or Chris (Hodges)? I was just wondering if any of these, esp.
>Mush, have been around..? I haven't tried mailing any of them, as I thought
>I would wait to see if they show up on the List. Anyhow, I haven't seen any
>of them lately (IRC too), not since the new List has gone up. Hmm..

Chris Hodges IS around, I see him about 6 days a week on IRC. As


>Btw Giark, do you still plan to get CBATNAM finished? hehehe
>I noticed you still have the page up, so this is a sign..? :D
                                                                 
Yeah, Giark how about that, YOU hurry up with CBATNAM and I'll hurry up with TGE
;D

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On 07-Juil-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>I wonder how to print many 'Options' on screen in
>columns, something like this:

>Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    
>Option 1        Option 1         Option 1    

>I need something like 45 different Options.

Hi Hakan,

Just have a look at this one and send me $1.000.000 if you use it :-)

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' 45 options, split into 3 columns (height 15 lines)
'
XO=24 : YO=16 : Rem Graphic offset
For N=1 To 45
   T$="Option"+Str$(N)
   XG=XO+96*((N-1)/15)
   YG=YO+((N-1) mod 15)*8
   Text XG,YG,T$
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>From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>The program down here prints 45 different texts on screen
>but how can I make the highlite function on all those
>texts?

Well OK, I corrected your prog. Grrrr...
One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody here is
interested in THAT level of programming :->

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Screen Open 0,640,240,16,Hires
Curs Off : Flash Off : Cls 0
' Initialize text and zones
Reserve Zone 45
FH=3D8 : Rem font height
XO=3D12 : YO=3D8
Ink 6,0
'
AD=3D40 : Rem Amount of Data =

NL=3D10 : Rem Number of Lines
'
NC=3DAD/NL-(AD mod NL>0) : Rem Number of Columns
WC=3D640/NC : Rem Width of Column
'
Restore OPTIONS
'
For I=3D1 To AD
   Read T$
   XG=3DXO+((I-1)/NL)*WC
   YG=3DYO+((I-1) mod NL)*FH
   Text XG,YG+Text Base,T$
   Set Zone I,XG,YG To XG+Text Length(T$),YG+FH-1
Next =

'
Repeat =

   Z=3DMouse Zone
   If Z
      YG=3DYO+(Z-1)*FH
      Ink 6,2
      Restore OPTIONS
      For I=3D1 To Z : Read T$ : Next =

      XG=3DXO+((Z-1)/NL)*WC
      YG=3DYO+((Z-1) mod NL)*FH
      Text XG,YG+Text Base,T$
      Repeat =

         If Mouse Click : Cls =

         Print "You chose ";T$ : Exit 2 : End If =

      Until Mouse Zone<>Z
      Ink 6,0
      Text XG,YG+Text Base,T$
   End If =

Until Mouse Click
'
Cdown =

'
Wait 25 : Clear Key : Wait Key =

'
'
OPTIONS:
Data "A","M","Z","9"
Data "B","N","=C5","D2"
Data "C","O","=C4","D3"
Data "D","P","=D6","D4"
Data "E","Q","1","D5"
Data "F","R","2","D6"
Data "G","S","3","D7"
Data "H","T","4","D8"
Data "I","U","5","D9"
Data "J","V","6","E1"
Data "L","Y","8","E3","E"



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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Has anyone seen Mush around? And for that matter, has anyone seen Keith
(Braneloc) or Chris (Hodges)? I was just wondering if any of these, esp.
Mush, have been around..? I haven't tried mailing any of them, as I thought
I would wait to see if they show up on the List. Anyhow, I haven't seen any
of them lately (IRC too), not since the new List has gone up. Hmm..

Btw Giark, do you still plan to get CBATNAM finished? hehehe
I noticed you still have the page up, so this is a sign..? :D

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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

On 07-Jul-98, Bernie Noel wrote:

>>>Just have a look at this one and send me $1.000.000 if you use it :-)


That was an quick answer...
...I'll test it...


Money, money...

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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>>>Bernie Noel <amos-list@onelist.com> 
>>>Colums.asc

Hello again...

...I tried your Colums.asc but I don't understand how to
put in the main program.



The program down here prints 45 different texts on screen
but how can I make the highlite function on all those
texts? 



-----------------------------------------------------------------

Screen Open 0,640,240,16,Hires
Curs Off : Flash Off : Cls 0

' Initialize text and zones

Reserve Zone 45

FH=8 : Rem font height
XO=12 : YO=8
Ink 6,0
Restore OPTIONS


For I=1 To 25
   Read T$
   YG=YO+(I-1)*FH
   
   If YG>200 Then Exit : Rem jump to print right column
   
   Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
   Set Zone I,XO,YG To XO+Text Length(T$),YG+FH-1
Next 


XO=320 : YO=8

For I=1 To 20
   Read T$
   YG=YO+(I-1)*FH
   
   If YG>200 Then Exit : Rem jump to highlite
   
   Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
   Set Zone I,XO,YG To XO+Text Length(T$),YG+FH-1
Next 





Rem Here comes the problem...what must be done to
Rem let highlite and 'mouse click' follow the texts
Rem like they were printed above?    





Repeat 

   Z=Mouse Zone

   If Z
      YG=YO+(Z-1)*FH
      Ink 6,2
      Restore OPTIONS
      For I=1 To Z : Read T$ : Next 
      Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
      Repeat 
         If Mouse Click : Cls 
         Print "You choosed ";T$ : Exit 2 : End If 
      Until Mouse Zone<>Z
      Ink 6,0
      Text XO,YG+Text Base,T$
   End If 
Until Mouse Click
'

Cdown 



Wait 25 : Clear Key : Wait Key 


'
OPTIONS:
Data "A","M","Z","9"
Data "B","N","Å","D2"
Data "C","O","Ä","D3"
Data "D","P","Ö","D4"
Data "E","Q","1","D5"
Data "F","R","2","D6"
Data "G","S","3","D7"
Data "H","T","4","D8"
Data "I","U","5","D9"
Data "J","V","6","E1"
Data "L","Y","8","E3","E"



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From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>

Hello Adam

> From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

> Has anyone seen Mush around? And for that matter, has anyone seen Keith
> (Braneloc) or Chris (Hodges)? I was just wondering if any of these, esp.
> Mush, have been around..? I haven't tried mailing any of them, as I
thought
> I would wait to see if they show up on the List. Anyhow, I haven't seen
any
> of them lately (IRC too), not since the new List has gone up. Hmm..

Im around, just finishing all the bits concerning the LAN my amiga now uses
for internet purposes. All FTP stuff is being transitioned to a PC, so will
be down for at least another week, as is the WWW and personal FTP pages.

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

I've recently been looking into seeing if I can softkick Workbench 3.0/3.1
(kick 40.68) on my A2000. I've tried this before with numerous kickers, and
even mailed the List awhile back after I failed in my attempt. Well, I'm at
it again, and I've still got the same problems. I've checked for updates
for all the kickers I used before, and even for new kickers I didn't have.

I did try the existing kicker(s) I have on my A3000 (which I never really
use except for testing). Naturally, it (Softboot) worked as the 3000 was
designed for this very thing, and it functions much like an A1200. However,
my A2000 is a different story. Although it's similar in construction to an
A500, I still can't get any kicker to work with it. My configuration is as:

Amiga 2000, accelerated w/PP&S 68040, 68040 FPU, MMU
1MB Chip, 15MB 32-bit Fast; 105MB Quantum HD, 105MB SyQuest
Internal Commodore IBM-PC/XT Bridgeboard, 2 external floppies
I'm currently running Kickstart 2.04 (37.175) and Workbench 2.1

I have tried the following kickers (all that I can remeber):
SoftKick 3.43 (can't match the kickstarts to relocation tables,
and I get nothing after (force) kicking except flashing bars,
indicating something going on with the MMU and Captures() I think)

MKick 1.09 (works, but needs 1.3 and doesn't survive a hard-reset)
ZKick 1.21 (same as MKick, needs 1.3, but doesn't work as well).

ReKick 1.xx (Giark sent me this the first time around, obviously
for use under 1.3 or an A500/2000, but never would work right.
Wouldn't rekick into new kickstart, and after reboot would lose HD).

Set040 (came with my '040 card, but won't kick 3.0) :|
LKick ?.xx (I've read about it, not very dependable).

PLEASE NOTE: I would NEED/PREFER a kicker that kicks UNDER 2.04+ !

If anyone thinks they can offer any VALUABLE help, please contact me. Also,
if you think you can help but you need more detailed specs, contact me and
I can give you almost anything you need (SysInfo is so handy). This isn't
urgent, but is a problem I will have to solve in the near future. Thnx.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
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From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com

     
     Greetings,
     
        I am coding a utility to record and playback System Exclusive 
     messages from midi devices and have run into a problem.  My program 
     pauses until a SysEx message is received at the serial port.  With 
     this it counts the number of messages and calculates the size of the 
     file being produced.
     
        My problem is that every now and then, AMOSPro V2 reports the error 
     Hardware Data Overrun.  The manual states that this error is generated 
     if you wait too long before loading your data from the serial port 
     using Serial Input$.  It gives two options to try an overcome this, 
     use Serial Get(), which I am using or alter the Serial Speed, which I 
     assume I cannot as Midi data is transmitted at a fixed speed.  
     Sometimes my program record over 700 messages and other times it may 
     record 16, it varies.
     
        My program checks for the existence of data at the serial port and 
     just loops if nothing is there.  I have also tried a Serial Check() 
     but it doesn't seem to work.  Can anyone help or give some advice?  I 
     have included the source for the main receiving code below.  Thanks in 
     advance.
     
     Declan.
     
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     
     Procedure _RECEIVE_BULK
     
     _BYTES=0
     _MESSAGES=0
     _POINTER=_BYTES : Rem Recording pointer of data in memory
     _SYSEX=False : Rem Currently we do not have a sysex message 
     _BIM=0 : Rem Bytes in message, used to delete incomplete last message 
     
     Repeat 
     
     SEL=Gui Event
     
     _OVERRUN=Serial Status(0)
     
     If _OVERRUN=8
     Gui Reset : Edit 
     End If 
     
     _RECEIVE=Serial Get(0)
     
     If _RECEIVE>-1
     If _RECEIVE<128 and _SYSEX=True
     Inc _BYTES
     Poke Start(10)+_POINTER,_RECEIVE
     Inc _POINTER
     Inc _BIM
     
     Else 
     
     If _RECEIVE=240 : Rem 240=$F0 - Start of Sysex'
     Inc _MESSAGES
     Inc _BYTES
     Poke Start(10)+_POINTER,_RECEIVE
     Inc _POINTER
     Inc _BIM
     _SYSEX=True
     
     Else 
     
     If _RECEIVE=247 : Rem 247=$F7 - End of Sysex'
     Inc _BYTES
     Poke Start(10)+_POINTER,_RECEIVE
     Inc _POINTER
     Inc _BIM
     _SYSEX=False
     End If 
     
     End If 
     End If 
     End If 
     
     If _BYTES=_BUFFSIZE Gui Beep
     _STOP=True
     End If 
     
     If SEL=4
      _STOP=True
     End If 
     
     Until _STOP=True
     
     If _SYSEX=True
     Dec MESSAGES
     _BYTES=_BYTES-_BIM 
     For N=0 To BIM
     Poke Start(10)+_POINTER-1,0
     Next N
     End If 
     
     Serial Close 0 : Gui Reset : Amos To Front : Edit Gui Beep : Wait 50
     
     Bsave "user1.303",Start(10) To Start(10)+Length(10)
     
        _END:
     End Proc
      

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	Bernie Noel [SMTP:bnoel@club-internet.fr] wrote:

	>Well OK, I corrected your prog. Grrrr...
	>One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody
here is
	>interested in THAT level of programming :->

	Level? This list is open for everyone and every level of
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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Tuesday 07-Jul-98
Time: 20:54:33
Name: Adam Parrott
Subject: [amos-list] Goings on.
So here's a reply...

Hi there Adam,

>Has anyone seen Mush around?

Nope!  I  have  not  had an email from him in some time and he has not
replied to any mail I have sent over the last few weeks either!

His FTP site always seems to be down too!

>And for that matter, has anyone seen Keith
>(Braneloc) or Chris (Hodges)?

I dunno Keith that well, not heard anything there, as for Chris, yeah,
he is still around. I got an email from him the other day :)

>Btw Giark, do you still plan to get CBATNAM finished? hehehe

How  long  has that game been in development now? Surely you guys must
have it almost completed? If not, get on with it...

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 08-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody here is
>interested in THAT level of programming :->

It's not the level so much as the size.

>...hm some years ago the list was much more filled with
>things like this I think...maybe most people on the list are so good
>at programming that they don't want to see these listings...

No. We had an attack of whiners who complained that any mail over 2k was too
big. It seems that all of them have left the list. I'd say, just try to keep
it under 20k or so for listings. I'm sure someone else will pop up and start
whining right away.

Well met and godspeed,
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>From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se

>Bernie Noel [SMTP:bnoel@club-internet.fr] wrote:

>>Well OK, I corrected your prog. Grrrr...
>>One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody
>here is
>>interested in THAT level of programming :->

>Level? This list is open for everyone and every level of
>programming, right?

I agree, but that's not the point, Magnus... 
More specifically, someone came up with a "trivial" problem and I gave a
"trivial" solution, that's OK. Then it appeared that the "trivial" solution
was in itself a problem, and if this should go on further with everybody
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>From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>The program down here prints 45 different texts on screen
>but how can I make the highlite function on all those
>texts?

>>>Well OK, I corrected your prog. Grrrr...
>>>One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody here is
>>>interested in THAT level of programming :->



Thanks a lot....a little beauty...

hm I haven't been doing much AMOS lately so I have forgotten
a lot of things but although I've got a PC now I still find AMOS 
and Amiga much more interesting...

Eee about where to mail stuff like this...
...hm some years ago the list was much more filled with
things like this I think...maybe most people on the list are so good
at programming that they don't want to see these listings...

For me, though, it would be better if there were more things
like these because today there aren't so many ways to get to
learn new things in AMOS.

Let's have a vote on it!

ee just joking...but could be interesting to get
some point of views here...

Anyway...thanks again...

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From: "Nathan Reynolds" <shakester@cyberjunkie.com>

>I think the informatin softhome has is fake, what i want to know is it
>possible to trace the e-mail to his house.
>Is it possible to trace him when he downloads his mail, so you can find
>out his street adress???


I can't see how any responsible domain would give out this information to
anybody.  I mean, the internet spans the globe, there may even be some real
crazy people here, so what if you ended up being stalked or worse (y'know,
murdered) just because you have internet access?  There's no chance of
getting this information from softhome, I'm afraid.


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From bounce-amos-list--270-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 17:51:13 1998
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From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>

Hi everyone. Seeing as I was being asked about and moaned at about the FTP
site, i figured I would explain a bit in detail as to what is currently
going on here at MPD headquarters.

Firstly, im converting my entire Amiga setup to that of an Ethernet. Im
doing this now, for when my other (at least) 4 Amiga machines are finished
building, each will have its own task of running web, FTP, and mailservers
etc. so I figure the practise now is better than panicing later. It works
good too, have it hooked to the PC with a 56K modem, which means lovely FTP
transfer rates.

The FTP server is also being transferred to the PC as I speak. The PC has a
56K modem on it now, and also has much better handling performances when it
comes to multiple users. All FTP services will be down for at least another
week. Those with private FTP accounts, get in touch with me telling me your
usernames and passwords (I cant see what they were in miami!) immediately,
otherwise you will be deleted.

Over the course of the next 6-10 weeks, i will be working extremely heavily
with Blitz 2, converting my mailinglist software to run on this terrible
language. I wanted to keep it completely in AMOS, but unfortunately AMOS
just can't handle everything I want to throw at it, and im having to limit
the software by large extremes just to keep it from GURU'ing all the time.
Ill still be on the list, i have no intentions of deleting the AMOS site,
so no need to panic!!

All AMOSPro compilers have veen sold. Dont ask me for anymore at this time,
i shall let you know when I get some in. Thanks to all those who have
purchased them.

Well, time for me to go. Live long and prosper!

Mush

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From bounce-amos-list--268-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 17:05:01 1998
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi, Hakan


   Here is how (I think) the program works, line by line :)


>Dim USED(10)
   This sets the table up for storing which line you've been to.

>Do 
>_START:
>X=Rnd(9)+1
   Makes x = a random number 1-10

>If USED(X)<>0 Then Goto _START
   Here is where the program checks the table to see if the no.
has been used yet. It works like this:
   When you start the program all the entrys in the table are
set to 0, so when it checks entry X, if it hasn't been done
then it carrys on (0<>0 is false). If it has been used already
then the entry is 1 and it Goes to _START (1<>0 is true)

>USED(X)=1
   As the no. X hasn't been used yet (or it would goto _start)
the program sets entry X to 1 so the program will never use
that line again.

>Goto(X)
   Now it finally goes to line X

>1
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>2
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>3
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>4
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>5
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>6
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>7
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>8
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>9
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>10
>Print "1" : Goto _START


>Loop 

There you go, I hope that clears every thing up with you :)


See ya.


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From bounce-amos-list--271-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 17:57:06 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 08-Jul-98, Andy Gibson wrote:
>>Btw Giark, do you still plan to get CBATNAM finished? hehehe
>How  long  has that game been in development now? Surely you guys must
>have it almost completed? If not, get on with it...

Bite me.

There are 10 graphic files minimum (never done or explained why not or handed
off), at least that many songs (also never completed nor passed to another
artist)... The list goes on.

Cap'n Bubba can't be finished for release without ALL the parts being
completed.

Well met and godspeed,
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From bounce-amos-list--272-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 17:57:21 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 08-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>>>>it under 20k or so for listings. I'm sure someone else will pop up and
>ee is it keep it under 2k you mean?

Naw, 20k ought to be good. I doubt anyone on the list has that antiquated
system of getting mail anymore. Admin?

Well met and godspeed,
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From bounce-amos-list--273-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 17:59:07 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 08-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>I don't understand why it works...
>Maybe someone could try to explain how it works?

The USED array keeps track of which labels have been hit. If it has been, it
won't go to that number again. Pretty simple. Check it out with my additions. 

>Dim USED(10)
>Do 

COUNT=0

>_START:
>X=Rnd(9)+1
>If USED(X)<>0 Then Goto _START
>USED(X)=1

COUNT=COUNT+1
If COUNT=10 Then Exit

>Goto(X)
>1
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>2
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>3
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>4
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>5
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>6
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>7
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>8
>Print "2" : Goto _START
>9
>Print "3" : Goto _START
>10
>Print "1" : Goto _START
>Loop 

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
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                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
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From bounce-amos-list--266-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 15:04:45 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>


>>>No. We had an attack of whiners who complained that any mail over 2k was
too
>>>big. It seems that all of them have left the list. I'd say, just try to
keep
>>>it under 20k or so for listings. I'm sure someone else will pop up and
start
>>>whining right away.


Hm I remember that now...

ee is it keep it under 2k you mean?

(20k would be more nice for me...but I understand many people
don't want it that way, I only had email in a BBS before and had
to download each letter page for page...it took a long time)


And attached files should be included in that size?

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From bounce-amos-list--265-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 15:04:39 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

This program goes to each label randomly
exactly once.

I don't understand why it works...

Maybe someone could try to explain how it works?



Dim USED(10)
Do 
_START:
X=Rnd(9)+1
If USED(X)<>0 Then Goto _START
USED(X)=1
Goto(X)
1
Print "1" : Goto _START
2
Print "2" : Goto _START
3
Print "3" : Goto _START
4
Print "1" : Goto _START
5
Print "2" : Goto _START
6
Print "3" : Goto _START
7
Print "1" : Goto _START
8
Print "2" : Goto _START
9
Print "3" : Goto _START
10
Print "1" : Goto _START


Loop 

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From bounce-amos-list--267-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul  8 16:55:51 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

I've got JD and Gui extensions working now but when
I try to install EasyLife it won't work.

What should be written in 'set loaded extensions'?

What else could be wrong?

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From bounce-amos-list--275-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 03:27:32 1998
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From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8ller?= <tfb@bigfoot.com>

On the day of: 30-Jun-98, a guy called: Richard Griffith
was jumping on his keyboard, resulting in a text about: [amos-list] Re: Amiga
RKMs still good?

>I should note that the old CATS Developer CD 2.0 had electronic
>versions of the RKM's. It was VERY cool, but short of prying it
>from the still clutching fingers of a deceased developer, it is
>unobtainable. As of the Amiga Developer CD V1.1, Amiga still had
>not managed to obtain the rights to the electronic versions,
>but hopefully that will be solved, one way or another, soon.

They are available for download at http://www.seta.it/amos/ there you
shouldt find a link to some document pages which contains the RKM's.

CYA.

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From bounce-amos-list--277-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 06:06:12 1998
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From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com

     
     I have a question about the LDOS extension, in particular the Arexx 
     support.  I am looking to send information to OctaMED Sound Studio 
     from my program every time a slider is moved or string in entered.  
     LDos provides a command which goes like this......
     
     A$=Lrexx Send Msg("Host-Name","Message",Result)
     
     For my program I am using......
     
     Host$="octamed_rexx"+chr$(0)
     Message$="in_select"+str$(instrument)+chr$(0)
     
     Send_Message$=Lrexx Send Msg(Host$,Message$,0)
     
     Within my program I have checked for the existence of the OctaMED 
     arexx port but it reports it as not open.  I do have OctaMED running 
     and I know that the port is open.
     
     If I enter a Arexx Open("octamed_rexx") command into my program, it 
     freezes amos.
     
     What am I doing wrong it regards to addressing the OctaMED arexx Port?
     
     Declan.

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From bounce-amos-list--278-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 07:08:10 1998
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From: "Alastair Graham" <7355@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>

HI ALL,
	Has anyone out there wrote a Doom style game engine.I would be suprised if
there was no-one as AMOS is pretty good for that style. By writing the engine I
don`t mean using AMOS 3D I mean writing  using the polygon command and rotating
them around a point.
            ,,
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From bounce-amos-list--279-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 07:13:37 1998
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From: "Barry Haswell" <7254@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>

I am making a new RPG in Amos, I need some ideas for the kind of things
that might be put into it.  It will be a free-roaming one like Final
Fantasy VII, I need ideas for characters / enemies / locations that can go
into it. Also, I need some code for memory relocation of bob banks as the
game will use at least 2 bob banks and 2 sound banks.
(On the subject of sound, anyone know where I can get a music composer?)

      ______
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From bounce-amos-list--281-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 14:10:38 1998
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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Wednesday 08-Jul-98
Time: 11:32:28
Name: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se
Subject: [amos-list] SV: [amos-list] Re: more highlite
So here's a reply...

Hi there everyone,

>Bernie Noel [SMTP:bnoel@club-internet.fr] wrote:
>>Well OK, I corrected your prog. Grrrr...
>>One suggestion: mail to me privately; I'm not sure everybody
>here is
>>interested in THAT level of programming :->

>Level? This list is open for everyone and every level of
>programming, right?
>Regards - Magnus

Damn right!

I like to see other people's code no matter how easy or complex it is.
This list is for everyone and with any problems.

Sure,  if  some  peeps  feel  that  they  can offer better support via
private  emails,  sure, that's fine too. But please don't anyone think
that the above email is the rules of this list.

Even  if  you  feel your problem is silly, send it in. There's a whole
host of programmers on this list ready and willing to help.

Keep 'em coming and give us something to chat about :-)

Without the problems, this list is nothing!

(well,  Ok,  that's taking it a bit far, but you know what I'm getting
at here...)

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From bounce-amos-list--282-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 14:11:32 1998
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Hi there,

>No. We had an attack of whiners who complained that any mail over 2k was too
>big. It seems that all of them have left the list. I'd say, just try to keep
>it under 20k or so for listings. I'm sure someone else will pop up and start
>whining right away.

And here was me thinking thaat it would be you first Giark :-)

Yeah, I don't mind attached files either, well as long as they are not
too large.

In  fact,  is  there  anyone  on  this  list  who has anything against
receiving binary files via this list anymore?

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 08-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>What else could be wrong?

Did you put EasyLife.Library in Libs:?

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From bounce-amos-list--284-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul  9 21:27:48 1998
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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Wednesday 08-Jul-98
Time: 20:53:11
Name: Mr. Giark To You
Subject: [amos-list] Re: Goings on.
So here's a reply...

Hi there Giark,

>On 08-Jul-98, Andy Gibson wrote:
>>>Btw Giark, do you still plan to get CBATNAM finished? hehehe
>>How  long  has that game been in development now? Surely you guys must
>>have it almost completed? If not, get on with it...


>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
>Bite me.

Bite bite, Arrrgg, ruff woof woof, ruff ruff - meeeaawwww! :-)

>There are 10 graphic files minimum (never done or explained why not or handed
>off), at least that many songs (also never completed nor passed to another
>artist)... The list goes on.

So  what  is the story then? In your personal opinion do you think the
game will ever be completed?

I'd like to think so, after all, you and the rest did a lot of work to
it. It'd be a shame to let it fizzle away :(

>Cap'n Bubba can't be finished for release without ALL the parts being
>completed.

Well,  get onto the guys and demand all the parts you need or get some
other guys to complete the task(s) :-)

I know it's not as easy as that, but I for one want to see Cap'n Bubba
on release sometime this year!

Good luck m8 and keep up the great work...

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On 08-Jul-98, Andy Gibson wrote:
>Yeah, I don't mind attached files either, well as long as they are not
>too large.
>In  fact,  is  there  anyone  on  this  list  who has anything against
>receiving binary files via this list anymore?

It seems like all the ones who complained about it are gone; no one is saying
anything against it now. I don't mind binaries, as long as they are not too
large. (Say, under 100k)

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 09-Jul-98, Andy Gibson wrote:
>Bite bite, Arrrgg, ruff woof woof, ruff ruff - meeeaawwww! :-)

Down, boy.

>So  what  is the story then?

Not much, but I am a busy beaver lately.

> In your personal opinion do you think the
>game will ever be completed?

It would be nice. Maybe I'll take a run at the admin thing again, if anyone is
willing to work on it.

>I'd like to think so, after all, you and the rest did a lot of work to
>it. It'd be a shame to let it fizzle away :(

You'll never get MY taxes!

>Well,  get onto the guys and demand all the parts you need or get some
>other guys to complete the task(s) :-)

The listers aren't as vocal as they should be.

>I know it's not as easy as that, but I for one want to see Cap'n Bubba
>on release sometime this year!

The pics would be a nice start.

>Good luck m8 and keep up the great work...

Thanks.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From bounce-amos-list--288-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 06:25:49 1998
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From: Andy H <geosync@ozemail.com.au>

Hi Andy G,

> I  want  to  make sure that all my future productions will display the
> interlace  screens,  but seeing as I can't create the bug (even on 3.1
> with  the old Amos.Library), how can I be 100% certain my screens will
> show on a real 3.1 amiga?
> 
> Any1 got any ideas?
I`ve seen this bug at work.  I saw it when I tried to run a animation
sequence on a PPC and a 68040 both running WB3.1  On the PPC the screen
was visible, but every second line was gone and on the 040 the program
crashed out when trying to display the screen. Getting the new Amos lib
apparently fixes the problem.

Seeya,
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>>>It seems like all the ones who complained about it are gone; no one is
saying
>>>anything against it now. I don't mind binaries, as long as they are not too
>>>large. (Say, under 100k)

>>>Well met and godspeed,
>>>                      Giark

Sounds nice to me...

...and it's always interesting for all of us

that are not THAT good programmers  :-)

to get examples
in AMOS here in the list, since there aren't so many
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From bounce-amos-list--301-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 20:20:44 1998
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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 02-Sep-78, Morten Bolstad wrote:

hi!

>I think the informatin softhome has is fake, what i want to know is it 
>possible to trace the e-mail to his house.
>Is it possible to trace him when he downloads his mail, so you can find 
>out his street adress???

Noway, all you can trace is his user name, and from that you'll need to
get into his ISPs office and get the house address off his account
then run out quickly without been seen ;D

Your ISP cannot give that sort of info out, as you can imagine the sort
of crap they would get into for doing it.

Why did you want this traced anyway ?


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When loading a font with
JD Textfont this font has to be loaded
again if it is to be used within a procedure.

Is it possible to avoid that?


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From bounce-amos-list--294-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 14:05:10 1998
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>>>Did you put EasyLife.Library in Libs:?     

Yes.

In the archive there are
AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib 
EasyLife.Lib 

I use AMOSPro, should both libs be put in Libs?

(I assume you mean SYS:libs)

The docs say 
:AMOS_System/EasyLife.Lib
should be written in the interpreter.

Is that correct (without the :  )?

Or should it be changed for AMOSPro?
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From bounce-amos-list--289-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 07:03:25 1998
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From bounce-amos-list--290-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 09:20:39 1998
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>>I know it's not as easy as that, but I for one want to see Cap'n Bubba
>>on release sometime this year!

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>From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>...and it's always interesting for all of us
>that are not THAT good programmers  :-)
>to get examples
>in AMOS here in the list, since there aren't so many
>places to get such things....

There won't be so many beginners around soon, I'll kill them all. By the way,
where can you be found? No, wait, you made me famous, so I think I'll let you
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From bounce-amos-list--292-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 10:52:07 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 10-Jul-98, Bernie Noel wrote:
>>I know it's not as easy as that, but I for one want to see Cap'n Bubba
>>on release sometime this year!
>Is there a preview of this somewhere?

Nope.

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From bounce-amos-list--293-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 12:20:32 1998
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>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
>>Is there a preview of this somewhere?
>Nope.

Come on, don't be shy.


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From bounce-amos-list--300-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 20:11:20 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 09-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>>Did you put EasyLife.Library in Libs:?     
>Yes.

Good.

>>In the archive there are
>>AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib 
>>EasyLife.Lib 
>>I use AMOSPro, should both libs be put in Libs?

Neither should be in Libs:

AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib goes in the APSystem drawer of your AMOS Pro setup.
EasyLife.Library (not .lib) goes in Libs: (yes, SYS:Libs, if anyone uses that
designation anymore)
>(I assume you mean SYS:libs)

>The docs say 
>:AMOS_System/EasyLife.Lib
>should be written in the interpreter.
>Is that correct (without the :  )?

That's for old old old amos. Do what I tell you instaed.

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From bounce-amos-list--296-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 16:59:44 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

On 10-Jul-98, Bernie Noel wrote:
>>>From: Bernie Noel <bnoel@club-internet.fr>



>>>There won't be so many beginners around soon, I'll kill them all. By the
way,
>>>where can you be found? No, wait, you made me famous, so I think I'll let
you
>>>live :-)

He he but I think you made yourself famous...

Anyway I'm really not a beginner, it's just that I never took the time to
learn AMOS or any other language that much...

...you know that's the good thing with AMOS, you can do a lot of
nice stuff with very easy listings...

Still I'd like to learn more but it's not easy to get documentation
beside the manual...
...that's why people like you are so good...even if I still can't
pay you a million $...



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From bounce-amos-list--297-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 17:00:08 1998
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If DMEcommands using Protracker modules are used in
a compiled program, must any libs be distributed with
the program to make it function in other computers?
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From bounce-amos-list--295-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 16:59:33 1998
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Thr new amos.library...

...is that for use with AmosPro?
Where should it be put?
Should it be renamed?
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From bounce-amos-list--298-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 10 18:15:17 1998
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Where is info about commands in
Turboext 1.5 available?

The docs don't say much at all...
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From bounce-amos-list--302-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 11 03:24:50 1998
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On 10-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>Thr new amos.library...
>...is that for use with AmosPro?

Yes, an only with Pro. No one is supporting old AMOS anymore.

>Where should it be put?

Right in APSystem, where the old one is now.

>Should it be renamed?

If it isn't the same as the old one - yes.

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From bounce-amos-list--304-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 11 08:04:04 1998
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Does anyone use this?  I am having problems and would like to know if
someone would help me out.  Please email privately.  Thanks.

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On 10-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

>On 08-Jul-98, Andy Gibson wrote:
>>Yeah, I don't mind attached files either, well as long as they are not
>>too large.
>>In  fact,  is  there  anyone  on  this  list  who has anything against
>>receiving binary files via this list anymore?

>It seems like all the ones who complained about it are gone; no one is saying
>anything against it now. I don't mind binaries, as long as they are not too
>large. (Say, under 100k)

OK..I dont mind 100k either but that doesnt mean if you want to send a 300k
mail that you split it up in 3 and send 3 diffrent mails ;P

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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Friday 10-Jul-98
Time: 02:24:04
Name: Hakan Venderlof
Subject: [amos-list] easylife
So here's a reply...

Hi there,


>In the archive there are
>AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib 
>EasyLife.Lib 

>I use AMOSPro, should both libs be put in Libs?

Just use the AmosPro_Easylife.lib

The other is for classic Amos (1.3 etc)

>(I assume you mean SYS:libs)

NO NO NO NO! Shove it in your ApSystem dir. Then it will work.

>The docs say 
>:AMOS_System/EasyLife.Lib
>should be written in the interpreter.
>Is that correct (without the :  )?
>Or should it be changed for AMOSPro?

My set up has Amos Pro installed in:

Work:Amos/Amos_Pro/

And I have the AmosPro_EasyLife.Lib in:

Work:Amos/Amos_Pro/APSystem/AmosPro_Easylife.Lib


Hope that has been of some help?


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From bounce-amos-list--313-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sun Jul 12 11:20:01 1998
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>>>AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib goes in the APSystem drawer of your AMOS Pro setup.
>>>EasyLife.Library (not .lib) goes in Libs: (yes, SYS:Libs, if anyone uses
that
>>>designation anymore)

Done and with AMOSPro_EasyLife.Lib written in line 16 in the setup
the program crashes when I start AMOSPro.

All other extension works OK but this one doesn't like me.




That was written before I found the problem:

The version I had of this extension wasn't the latest,
now I installed the one that is on Aminet and it seems
to work OK.

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From: Deano@zetnet.co.uk (Deano)

Can anyone help me with this problem. I want to send four lha files to
aminet at site 128.252.135.4

I can connect to the site and I have entered the right directories IE:
pub/animet/games/misc but when I try to send my files there I get
permission denided. I am using an FTP program to upload, can anyone
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From bounce-amos-list--306-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 11 14:30:08 1998
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From: Deano@zetnet.co.uk (Deano)

Excuse me, but was'nt it Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:54:58 GMT, that you
wrote:

>From: Deano@zetnet.co.uk (Deano)
>
>Can anyone help me with this problem. I want to send four lha files to
>aminet at site 128.252.135.4
>
>I can connect to the site and I have entered the right directories IE:
>pub/animet/games/misc but when I try to send my files there I get
>permission denided. I am using an FTP program to upload, can anyone
>tell me what to do to get my game onto Aminet?

Update: No need to bother cos I've just solved my own problem.


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From bounce-amos-list--307-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 11 14:33:46 1998
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

On 11-Jul-98, Deano wrote:
>From: Deano@zetnet.co.uk (Deano)

>Can anyone help me with this problem. I want to send four lha files to
>aminet at site 128.252.135.4

>I can connect to the site and I have entered the right directories IE:
>pub/animet/games/misc but when I try to send my files there I get
>permission denided. I am using an FTP program to upload, can anyone
>tell me what to do to get my game onto Aminet?

You cant just upload anywhere, you have to upload it too
pub/animet/new/ with a .readme file.


   You can yet more info in the Aminet readme's avalible from websites.


   See ya

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> Has anyone out there wrote a Doom style game engine.I would be suprised
> if there was no-one as AMOS is pretty good for that style. By writing the
> engine I don`t mean using AMOS 3D I mean writing using the polygon
> command and rotating them around a point.

I've had a 3D engine in the works for several months now (I've made several
sets of code to make it fast, more accurate, and work), and although I've
halted the major work of it for now (for the anticipated release of
AMOS_3), I'm working on a new set of coverted code. Hopefully, after I have
a working basic engine, I'll incorporate it into a game (ideas welcome).
Hopefully I can still get some speed out of AMOS Pro yet, with the help of
some Extensions. Anything that comes of it will be posted on Parrottsoft.

(Btw, the engine for now is just your basic Wolfenstein-er/Blake Stone. I
may end up doing either an update or an entirely new engine that is
Doom-like using sectors etc., but realize that a Doomer is harder to code.)

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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

> From: "Barry Haswell" <7254@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>
> I am making a new RPG in Amos, I need some ideas for the kind of things
> that might be put into it.  It will be a free-roaming one like Final
> Fantasy VII, I need ideas for characters / enemies / locations that can
> go into it. Also, I need some code for memory relocation of bob banks as
> the game will use at least 2 bob banks and 2 sound banks.
>(On the subject of sound, anyone know where I can get a music composer?)

I know for a fact that John (Bintz) just finished his latest RPG and
reported it to the List a few days ago (in case you didn't notice). I'm
also sure that he'll probably post something on this. Anyhow, if you need
any help, I'm sure he could lend you some. You also might want to try
visiting his site (http://inextsoft.home.ml.org) and downloading it (it's
called Final Existance). I would recommed watching the .mpg movie first (!)

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From bounce-amos-list--311-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 11 23:31:52 1998
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There is the Doom source code you can download from idsoft.  You could
probably make a derivative work from that, though you`d have to make the
raycasting engine in machine code (well at least the line drawing part)
to get it to run really fast thru AMOS.

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From bounce-amos-list--314-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sun Jul 12 15:44:49 1998
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From: "Michael Stieler" <StielerM@fbam.baynet.de>

> From: "Barry Haswell" <7254@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>
> 
> I am making a new RPG in Amos, I need some ideas for the kind of things
> that might be put into it.  It will be a free-roaming one like Final
> Fantasy VII, I need ideas for characters / enemies / locations that can go
> into it. Also, I need some code for memory relocation of bob banks as the
> game will use at least 2 bob banks and 2 sound banks.
> (On the subject of sound, anyone know where I can get a music composer?)

If you want a good composer, talk to Chris Huelsbeck, but I don't
think you WANT to pay him, 'cause he's too expensive, I think.
(mailto:ch@sis.de)

Well, if not, tell me which format you want the music to be, I could
send you some songs of mine then. (RPG style, of course)
(Preferred: Midi/Mod/Med/OctaMed)
Just tell me: mailto:stielerm@fbam.baynet.de


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From bounce-amos-list--315-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sun Jul 12 18:38:42 1998
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> Well, if not, tell me which format you want the music to be, I could
> send you some songs of mine then. (RPG style, of course)


On the subject of songs (I must have missed this last time when I replied
to Barry's message): aside from looking on Aminet, you can visit ModPlug
Central (where I go for some of my mod's and the player I use on my PC) to
look for mod's. The webmaster keeps an updated list of all new mod's that
he gets, as well as a very LONG list of links to other mod sites (more than
you could ever want). You might want to try it (http://castlex.com/modplug)

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WE-ARE-THE-CHAMPIONS
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From bounce-amos-list--319-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul 13 09:53:20 1998
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From: "Rune J. Keller" <keller@vip.cybercity.dk>

I'm working on a clone of the game Gunsmoke (Arcade/NES) called Lone Gunman.
Those of you unfamiliar with the game: it's a scrolling western-style shoot em
up in which you control a gunman who must shoot all the baddies to save the
town.

The game is currently completely playable so at the moment I need:

Graphic artists (sprites, tiles, title and menu screen)
Music artists (Morricone-style tunes)
Sound artists (basic gunshots and baddie sounds)
Level designer (once the gfx tiles are done)
Game testers (once the complete game is done...)

Anyone interested may mail me privately and I can send you the current version
of the game along with the Arcade and NES version (runs GREAT with MAME and
MESS if you've got a PPC!)

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From bounce-amos-list--317-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul 13 04:23:41 1998
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Failing my previous attempt, does anyone know the exact format of a sound
.Abk file, if I know this format I can probably make my own Music / sound
composer (possibly using the Amiga's serial port... How do you access this?)

Also on the subject, Michael Stieler, are those music files the usual
Fantasy style RPGs (with picturesque villages and nice scenery)?  If so,
they aren't the kind I'm looking for.  I want some kind of up-tempo techno
stuff to relay the futuristac setting of the RPG.  Oh and does anyone have
an Abk file with a series of explosion sounds? I need some for the RPG.

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From bounce-amos-list--323-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 14 07:14:31 1998
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On 14-Jul-98, Barry Haswell wrote:
> From: "Barry Haswell" <7254@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>

>> Compose it in Protracker then use the sound Converter program, with amos,
> I
>> think, TO convert it to abk. 

> Where can I get hold of a copy of ProTracker??

Aminet would be a good place... Anyway use OctaMed SoundStudio instead; it's a
much better program (can be download freely from
http://www.octamed.co.uk/amlist.html)

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From bounce-amos-list--322-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 14 04:27:32 1998
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From: "Barry Haswell" <7254@scarb-6-form.ac.uk>

Phil Price: Read this

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> Compose it in Protracker then use the sound Converter program, with amos,
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> think, TO convert it to abk. 
>  

Where can I get hold of a copy of ProTracker??

> 
> Duya What me to give it ago, the music that is ?? I'm doing music 4 the
Game
> XenoMorphs 2, if ya interested.


OK write some music and mail it to me.  If I use it I'll stick you in the
game credits.


Barry.

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From bounce-amos-list--324-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 14 13:05:45 1998
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Hello!

>Can someone please list any problems there are with AMOS and 060's and
>the solution (if any).

I can see one thing, that affected by the ´060. This is the SPEED!

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From bounce-amos-list--325-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 14 17:29:22 1998
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To those whom it may concern (Yes yes yes yes!):

For some time now, I've been trying (and failing) at soft-kicking OS3.1
onto my A2000 (which is running 2.1). I had tried almost _every_ kicker I
could find on Aminet, but nothing would work. I am now pleased to announce:

I HAD DID IT! I HAVE PULLED IT OFF! I now have 3.1 softbooting on my A2000!
I won't go into details as to how I finally managed to get it to work,
although if you are interested, mail me and I'll send you a breif account
(as this may help anyone else in the future who had the same problems I
did). It ended up working through the combined help of Mkick and sKick.

I would like to go ahead and send some small thanks out to Giark,
Mush, and PAC for the help they offered (the little bit if not much).

Believe it or not, I still have one small problem: My default OS is 2.1 (in
ROM), and so I have a requester pop-up at startup to ask if I want to go
ahead and boot or softkick into 3.1. Either way it's going to automatically
boot off my DH0: partition. I was wondering if perhaps there is a program
that will patch the Kickstart image so I could change the default boot
partition (i.e. DH0: -> DH2:)? I'm basically looking for a way _AROUND_
having to use the 3.1 boot menu (LMB+RMB) at startup, changing it from DH0
to DH2. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I don't suppose someone wants to make an interface for use with the GUI
Extension for me?  It would be a small interface for a CD player.  Just
something simple right now.  Buttons for Play, Stop, Eject, Pause, Next
Song, Previous Song.  A text box for displaying the Artist Name.
Perhaps a cycle for displaying the song titles so the user can click on
it and select which song to play.

I would appreciate it.  I can't design a decent interface for a paper
bag much less a program.  Thanks!

> Michael Cox
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I don't suppose someone wants to make an interface for use with the
GUI Extension for me?  It would be a small interface for a CD player.
Just something simple right now.  Buttons for Play, Stop, Eject,
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I would appreciate it.  I can't design a decent interface for a paper
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Sorry about the double message.  I was not sure if it went out from my
work account (this one) or not.

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Does anyone use this?  Does it do all the high resolutions for an A1200?
My monitor sucks and I want something that can handle higher res so I
can have a lot more on my screen and be able to see all that small MUI
crap.

Thanks.

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Yeah, I guess that it would provided you have a monitor driver for the
resolution you want and a resolution that the NEC can handle.

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> 
> Does anyone use this?  Does it do all the high resolutions for an
> A1200?
> My monitor sucks and I want something that can handle higher res so I
> can have a lot more on my screen and be able to see all that small MUI
> crap.
> 
> Thanks.
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Does anyone use =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks.</FONT>
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Does anyone have their old OS1.2 Extras disk?  Would you be willing to
email me the FDtoBMAP program that is on there? Thanks!

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Hi,

As some of you know TGE will have a Iconify command
(G Iconify ICON$). There are a few diffrent ways of having
the command, which do you think is best:

1. The command will close all screens, stop music free mem
   and restore EVERYTHING back when the icon is double clicked on.

2. The command just puts amos to back, frees no mem.

3. The command will Close all screens, stop all music
   but the user will have to draw everything that was of the screen
   back onto it themself.

4. It will JUST draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close
   everything, and send amos to back.

With No.1 IT wont be able to close windows, GUIs, etc..

Please Pick the one you think is best.

Also seen as Im putting the Iconify in, I could add the ability
to read ToolTypes, or does anyone know if any other extension already does it ?

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From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>

On 15-Jul-98, Adam Parrott wrote:


>To those whom it may concern (Yes yes yes yes!):

Hiya!

>I would like to go ahead and send some small thanks out to Giark,
>Mush, and PAC for the help they offered (the little bit if not much).

>Believe it or not, I still have one small problem: My default OS is 2.1 (in
>ROM), and so I have a requester pop-up at startup to ask if I want to go
>ahead and boot or softkick into 3.1. Either way it's going to automatically
>boot off my DH0: partition. I was wondering if perhaps there is a program
>that will patch the Kickstart image so I could change the default boot
>partition (i.e. DH0: -> DH2:)? I'm basically looking for a way _AROUND_
>having to use the 3.1 boot menu (LMB+RMB) at startup, changing it from DH0
>to DH2. Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

There is a MUCH MUCH easier way just..
simply set the partitions priority in HDToolBox, its pretty easy to do, just
set which ever drive you want to boot to priority '1' and all other drives to
have
a LOWER priority(ie. -5,-6,-7etc..). OR you can select them just not to be
bootable
in HDToolBox, this way you cant set there priority, so just Hd2: will boot.

cya,
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I like option #1.  This makes the most sense to me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Peter Cahill [SMTP:cahill4@iol.ie]
> Sent:	Tuesday, January 03, 1978 11:22 AM
> To:	amos-list@onelist.com
> Subject:	[amos-list] Iconify
>=20
> From: Peter Cahill <cahill4@iol.ie>
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> As some of you know TGE will have a Iconify command
> (G Iconify ICON$). There are a few diffrent ways of having
> the command, which do you think is best:
>=20
> 1. The command will close all screens, stop music free mem
>    and restore EVERYTHING back when the icon is double clicked on.
>=20
> 2. The command just puts amos to back, frees no mem.
>=20
> 3. The command will Close all screens, stop all music
>    but the user will have to draw everything that was of the screen
>    back onto it themself.
>=20
> 4. It will JUST draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close
>    everything, and send amos to back.
>=20
> With No.1 IT wont be able to close windows, GUIs, etc..
>=20
> Please Pick the one you think is best.
>=20
> Also seen as Im putting the Iconify in, I could add the ability
> to read ToolTypes, or does anyone know if any other extension already
> does it ?
>=20
> thanks,
> --=20
>                       \  \                      | /
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>   \__ \  LPPPPPPPO    {Z=AF=AFC}       (TT=AF=AFO)|/      pROUD =
aUTHOR oF tHE=20
>      \_\ LP      P=D0  {Z   C}     (TO     O)  gAME eXTENSION wHICH
> gIVES=20
>          LP     PO  {Z     C}   (O        o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG=20
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> lIKE
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">I like =
option #1.&nbsp; This makes the most sense to me.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Peter Cahill [SMTP:cahill4@iol.ie]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
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FACE=3D"Arial">amos-list@onelist.com</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
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</B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">[amos-list] Iconify</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: Peter Cahill =
&lt;cahill4@iol.ie&gt;</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hi,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">As some of you know =
TGE will have a Iconify command</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">(G Iconify ICON$). =
There are a few diffrent ways of having</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">the command, which =
do you think is best:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. The command will =
close all screens, stop music free mem</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; and =
restore EVERYTHING back when the icon is double clicked on.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">2. The command just =
puts amos to back, frees no mem.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">3. The command will =
Close all screens, stop all music</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; but =
the user will have to draw everything that was of the screen</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; back =
onto it themself.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">4. It will JUST draw =
the icon on WB, the user will be left to close</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
everything, and send amos to back.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">With No.1 IT wont be =
able to close windows, GUIs, etc..</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Please Pick the one =
you think is best.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Also seen as Im =
putting the Iconify in, I could add the ability</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">to read ToolTypes, =
or does anyone know if any other extension already does it ?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">thanks,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-- </FONT>
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LPPPPPPPO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
{Z=AF=AFC}&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
(TT=AF=AFO)|/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \_\ =
LP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; P=D0&nbsp; {Z&nbsp;&nbsp; =
C}&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (TO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; O)&nbsp; gAME =
eXTENSION wHICH gIVES </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
LP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PO&nbsp; {Z&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
C}&nbsp;&nbsp; (O&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o aMOS =
uLTIMATE aGA/rTG </FONT>
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LP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PO&nbsp; {Z&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; O}&nbsp; =
(O&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sUPPORT =
aS wELL aS gIVING </FONT>
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FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
LOOOOo/&nbsp; {AXXXXXXOO}&nbsp; =
(O&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \_ aMOS mUCH =
fASTER bOBS, </FONT>
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/|LI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {AXXXXXXXXX!}&nbsp; =
(O&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o| \&nbsp; sPRITES aND aLL =
tHE</FONT>
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C/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
/A}&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (=BF=BF=BF)&nbsp;&nbsp; =
\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \&nbsp; mEMORY bANK</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; / =
/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; eNCYRPTION =
tHAT</FONT>
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/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; =
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \&nbsp;&nbsp; aNY cODER =
cOULD</FONT>
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>As some of you know TGE will have a Iconify command
>(G Iconify ICON$). There are a few different ways of having
>the command, which do you think is best:
>...
>but the user will have to draw everything that was of the screen
When you say USER, do you mean the programmer or the person using the
program?

Maybe have a bitmask option that can be set to say what to close?  Like,
if you want music to still play, leave it 1.
G Iconify ICON$ %01000000

>1. The command will close all screens, stop music free mem
>   and restore EVERYTHING back when the icon is double clicked on.
Otherwise, I would go with 1.

BTW, can you tell us what your CDDA will do?  Thanks.

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Actually,

I agree with this fellow.  At first my understanding was that the
program would still be running using iconify option #1, but if it closes
EVERYTHING, then I think that option #4 is much better.

Stacey

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mr. Giark To You [SMTP:giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org]
> Sent:	Friday, July 17, 1998 2:59 PM
> To:	amos-list@onelist.com
> Subject:	[amos-list] Re: Iconify
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> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
> 
> On 03-Jan-78, Peter Cahill wrote:
> >4. It will JUST draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close
> >   everything, and send amos to back.
> 
> That's my choice. It makes the programmer more able to control how
> iconify
> works for his program. YAM iconify does not stop checking for mail,
> stuff like
> that. This version will let you keep your program running, but no
> interface
> showing, etc.
> 
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">I agree with =
this fellow.&nbsp; At first my understanding was that the program would =
still be running using iconify option #1, but if it closes EVERYTHING, =
then I think that option #4 is much better.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Comic Sans =
MS">Stacey</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Mr. Giark To You =
[SMTP:giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Friday, July 17, 1998 2:59 PM</FONT>
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FACE=3D"Arial">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">amos-list@onelist.com</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: &quot;Mr. =
Giark To You&quot; &lt;giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org&gt;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">On 03-Jan-78, Peter =
Cahill wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;4. It will JUST =
draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
everything, and send amos to back.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">That's my choice. It =
makes the programmer more able to control how iconify</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">works for his =
program. YAM iconify does not stop checking for mail, stuff like</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">that. This version =
will let you keep your program running, but no interface</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">showing, =
etc.</FONT>
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From bounce-amos-list--339-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 14:04:02 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 03-Jan-78, Peter Cahill wrote:
>4. It will JUST draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close
>   everything, and send amos to back.

That's my choice. It makes the programmer more able to control how iconify
works for his program. YAM iconify does not stop checking for mail, stuff like
that. This version will let you keep your program running, but no interface
showing, etc.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
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From bounce-amos-list--341-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 16:12:12 1998
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From: "Stephen Lebed" <slebed@ix.netcom.com>

I'm working on an old game I wrote some time ago.  I would like to have the
game run on a cybergraphx or p96 display.

I'm using the GUI CLONE to copy the graphics from my lowres screen to a P96
display.  I've got a coouple of questions though.

1) I'm using BOB CLEAR/DRAW to update my double buffer display.  When I use
GUI CLONE, only the power meter is updated on the P96 screen (the power
meter is drawn on the lowres display).  All the bobs are not copied.  I
thought GUI CLONE would do a screen grab of the lowres display and copy it
to the P96?
2) Will it be possible to create a double buffered screen?
3) How can I create graphics for a game using 256 color or more?  Will the
GET BOB command grab more than 5 bitplanes?
4) Is there a bug in the GUI iff display command?  In the example program
the image in the bank will only displat on a PAL screen.  I can't get it to
redisplay to anything else.

Thanks in advance,

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From bounce-amos-list--346-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 18 01:25:32 1998
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

>Has anyone managed to run an Amigaemulator on a PC and used AMOSPro on it?

Although I use UAE for Windows95, which seems to work well, I have yet to
actually run AMOS Pro under it. I HAVE, however, run a few AMOS programs
(John Bintz's 'The Hunt is On') under it, and they work great. If you're
going to get an emulator, I would HIGHLY recommend the Windows version of
UAE first, above the DOS versions of it and Fellow. DirectX-5 also helps.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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From bounce-amos-list--345-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 21:59:30 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

Has anyone managed to run an
Amigaemulator on a PC and used
AMOSPro on it?
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From bounce-amos-list--344-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 21:59:20 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>


In JD extension...what is
an Area like in JD Area First?

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From bounce-amos-list--343-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 21:59:08 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

Is there some way to increase the
default buffer size for program listings?
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From bounce-amos-list--342-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Fri Jul 17 21:58:47 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

AmosPro manual says

Global "*"

should define every variabel as global but I get 
a syntax error.  What's wrong?
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From bounce-amos-list--348-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 18 09:54:31 1998
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From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

The helpfile
Help_71.AMOS
is missing in my AMOSPro...
...anyone out there who's got it?

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From bounce-amos-list--349-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 18 10:01:16 1998
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 18-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>Is there some way to increase the
>default buffer size for program listings?

It's in interpreter config or editor config. If you change it, you need to
turn off autorestore (or whatever it is called) first. Otherwise, it will keep
giving you the 32k buffer, due to the restore. Right now, I use a buffer of
500k for my program space.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast   |
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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>

Hello Stephen

On 17-Lug-98, Stephen Lebed wrote: [amos-list] GUI game

> 1) I'm using BOB CLEAR/DRAW to update my double buffer display.  When I use
> GUI CLONE, only the power meter is updated on the P96 screen (the power
> meter is drawn on the lowres display).  All the bobs are not copied.  I
> thought GUI CLONE would do a screen grab of the lowres display and copy it
> to the P96?

GUI Clone doesn't copy your screen datas, but allows the intuition screen to
display the Amos bitmaps. The Bob Clear/Draw command doesn't work correclty
because your Amos screen is double buffered, and Gui Clone cannot handle
double buffered display.


> 2) Will it be possible to create a double buffered screen?

No.

> 3) How can I create graphics for a game using 256 color or more?  Will the
> GET BOB command grab more than 5 bitplanes?

No.

> 4) Is there a bug in the GUI iff display command?  In the example program
> the image in the bank will only displat on a PAL screen.  I can't get it to
> redisplay to anything else.

Actually the GUI Display Iff command display the picture using the monitor ID
specified on the IFF file only. You can't display it in a different screen
mode...



-- 


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>

Hello Stacey

On 17-Lug-98, Stacey Abshire wrote: [amos-list] Re: Iconify


>> Hi,
>> 
>> As some of you know TGE will have a Iconify command
>> (G Iconify ICON$). There are a few diffrent ways of having
>> the command, which do you think is best:
>> 
>> 1. The command will close all screens, stop music free mem
>>    and restore EVERYTHING back when the icon is double clicked on.
>> 
>> 2. The command just puts amos to back, frees no mem.
>> 
>> 3. The command will Close all screens, stop all music
>>    but the user will have to draw everything that was of the screen
>>    back onto it themself.
>> 
>> 4. It will JUST draw the icon on WB, the user will be left to close
>>    everything, and send amos to back.


Option 4 is the best because you can safely close everythings... only the
coders know the best method to deallocate their resources, how and when.

So just popup the icon and sen amos to back. The GUI extension will use the
same tecnique.

>> Also seen as Im putting the Iconify in, I could add the ability
>> to read ToolTypes, or does anyone know if any other extension already
>> does it ?

AMCAF


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On 18-Jul-98, Hakan Venderlof wrote:
>From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>

>Has anyone managed to run an
>Amigaemulator on a PC and used
>AMOSPro on it?
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------
> greets  grok@flashback.net  (or: grok@online.idg.se) 
>----------------------------------------------------------------


   I have tried some of my Amos creations (and amos pro shell) on 
A P333. UAE worked just about perfect, while FELLOW didn't run them
and just crashed. 


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   Hi All,


   Does anyone know how to use a modem in amos? I've tried sending
the string 'AT&F1&D2\r' and then 'ATDT*****' but this just returns
the string straight back.

   I can't get LSer to work so it'll have to use standard serial 
commands

   

   See ya.

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Hi all,

I'm having problems with loading a sound bank.  I use the command
 Load "<mysoundbank>",5
The first time around it works fine.  Then the next time or maybe 3rd or
4th time around it crashes with an "I/O Error".
At first I thought the file was corrupt so I made another.  No change.
Then I built an error trap around it so that if it did cause the error,
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looping over and over.
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	>The helpfile Help_71.AMOS is missing in my AMOSPro......anyone
out there who's got it?
Where is this file?  Is it in HELP or is it in Examples or ?  I am at
work so I can not check.

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	>   Does anyone know how to use a modem in amos? I've tried
sending
	>the string 'AT&F1&D2\r' and then 'ATDT*****' but this just
returns
	>the string straight back.
I think it is supposed to send it back.  I think the modem's defaults
are to echo back what you type.  Probably what you need to do is do an
ATZ\r then loop waiting for the data "OK".  If it does not receive OK
then maybe you have result codes turned off?

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>Where is this file?  Is it in HELP or is it in Examples or ?  I am at
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Not sure about that one, but why would you want every variable to be
global?  That's not a very sound programming style, at least from
professional programming experience.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Hakan Venderlof [SMTP:grok@flashback.net]
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> From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>
> 
> AmosPro manual says
> 
> Global "*"
> 
> should define every variabel as global but I get 
> a syntax error.  What's wrong?
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: Hakan =
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	about Global "*"
	it sounds dubious to me, I suggest just buckling down and
just globalizing all the variables individually, if you think you've got
too many variables to do it that way then you've probly got too many
varialbles to begin with, i suggest making a list of them all and what
they do, can you get rid of some?
	
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On 20-Jul-98, Andy H wrote:
> Load "<mysoundbank>",5
>The first time around it works fine.  Then the next time or maybe 3rd or
>4th time around it crashes with an "I/O Error".

Are you using Erase All at the start of your program? You know that amos does
not erase banks on its own. You may be filling up your chip mem with instances
of the bank, then, once chip is full, you can't load anymore. If you don't
want all banks cleared before you get into the program, try using Erase 5.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

I was wondering, what (if any) application is out there that could help
me write the AmigaGuide documentation for my CD Player?  I really want
something easy that I do not have to know AmigaGuide codes or anything.

Also, is there the same type of application for writing an Installer
script?

I figure I would go ahead and write the documentation while I write the
program.

Thanks.

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> On 20-Jul-98, Andy H wrote:
> > Load "<mysoundbank>",5
> >The first time around it works fine.  Then the next time or maybe 3rd or
> >4th time around it crashes with an "I/O Error".
> 
> Are you using Erase All at the start of your program? You know that amos does
> not erase banks on its own. You may be filling up your chip mem with instances
> of the bank, then, once chip is full, you can't load anymore. 
	
	Could this also be the nefarious Amiga memory fragmentation curse?
If you keep loading different size songs then your Amiga's ram gets all
chopped up to pieces and eventually no matter what you do or how much ram
you have free you can't load a file because there isn't enough contiguous
ram left.  The only solution is to reboot so you could be in bigger
trouble than Giark suggests, how big are the songs your loading, reloading
a few 1-200k files might be ok but if your files are more on the order
of 4-500+ kilobytes long your headed for trouble.
		Scott Matott sXe
 


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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

> From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

> I was wondering, what (if any) application is out there that could help
> me write the AmigaGuide documentation for my CD Player?  I really want
> something easy that I do not have to know AmigaGuide codes or anything.

I would _HIGHLY_ recommend Heddley (by Ed Dumbill). You can find it under
text/hyper on Aminet. The latest version is 1.1 (Heddley11.lha). I have yet
to make a full Amigaguide doc with it, but it has many a feature and looks
EXTREMELY cool. It's also the only one I could find on Aminet :)

> is there the same type of application for writing an Installer script?

The only one I've found on Aminet is called ScriptMaker. The filename is
"ScriptMaker20.lha" and is under util/misc. I haven't tried it yet, but it
looks like the only Install-script generator there is on Aminet.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>
>I was wondering, what (if any) application is out there that could help
>me write the AmigaGuide documentation for my CD Player?  I really want
>something easy that I do not have to know AmigaGuide codes or anything.

Amigaguide syntax is really very simple. Converting an ascii file to an
Amigaguide file is a matter of 5 minutes. I can send you a tutorial, or you
can just send your docs to me and I'll convert them.

Regards

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Stacey wrote:
>I have been out of the AMOS programming scene for a while, and I was
wondering
>if there is a nice add-in for AMOS that allows you to create friendly
Intuition
>apps, and if so, where can I get a copy of it?
You will probably get a ton of email on this but check out the GUI
Extension.  The official website is http://www.seta.it/amos

> Michael Cox
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>The helpfile
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  Hi Hakan,

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On 20-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

>>   Does anyone know how to use a modem in amos? I've tried
>sending
>>the string 'AT&F1&D2\r' and then 'ATDT*****' but this just
>returns
>>the string straight back.
>I think it is supposed to send it back.  I think the modem's defaults
>are to echo back what you type.  Probably what you need to do is do an
>ATZ\r then loop waiting for the data "OK".  If it does not receive OK
>then maybe you have result codes turned off?

   Ok I've found out why it didn't work, you have to send 
   "ATZ\r"+Chr$(13)+Chr$(10), now I'll be able to add modem commands
to some of my games :)

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From bounce-amos-list--371-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul 20 21:42:49 1998
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From: Andy H <geosync@ozemail.com.au>

The sound bank is about 400k.

If I want to load the sound in should I erase the bank if it exists?
What I have been doing in the past is just loading the next file into
the bank completely destroying the old one.  Which process fragments
memory quicker?

> > On 20-Jul-98, Andy H wrote:
> > > Load "<mysoundbank>",5
> > >The first time around it works fine.  Then the next time or maybe 3rd or
> > >4th time around it crashes with an "I/O Error".
> >
> > Are you using Erase All at the start of your program? You know that amos
does
> > not erase banks on its own. You may be filling up your chip mem with
instances
> > of the bank, then, once chip is full, you can't load anymore.
> 
>         Could this also be the nefarious Amiga memory fragmentation curse?
> If you keep loading different size songs then your Amiga's ram gets all
> chopped up to pieces and eventually no matter what you do or how much ram
> you have free you can't load a file because there isn't enough contiguous
> ram left.  The only solution is to reboot so you could be in bigger
> trouble than Giark suggests, how big are the songs your loading, reloading
> a few 1-200k files might be ok but if your files are more on the order
> of 4-500+ kilobytes long your headed for trouble.

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From bounce-amos-list--372-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Mon Jul 20 22:31:13 1998
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From: Andy H <geosync@ozemail.com.au>

When I upgraded to the new amos.library for AMosPro every time I leave
the AmosPro editor or a compiled AmosPro program WB is stuck in
Interlace.

Anyone else notice this, or know a fix?

Andy H.

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From bounce-amos-list--373-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 21 00:52:16 1998
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> The sound bank is about 400k.
> If I want to load the sound in should I erase the bank if it exists?
> What I have been doing in the past is just loading the next file into
> the bank completely destroying the old one.  Which process fragments
> memory quicker?

   Can't you just do a binary load?  I mean once you reserve that 400k
   bank you can Bload(?) new sound files to your heart's content and
   memory will never be fragmented as the binary load will force the
   data to use the same memory area.


                Garfield Benjamin    e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com
                     Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam )  

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From bounce-amos-list--375-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 21 07:50:47 1998
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From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

	>When I upgraded to the new amos.library for AMosPro every time
I leave
	>the AmosPro editor or a compiled AmosPro program WB is stuck in
	>Interlace.
	>Anyone else notice this, or know a fix?
It happens to me too.  However, I switched my monitor mode to a higher
res and now it does not cause that problem.  What monitor res/driver are
you using?  I was using the regular NTSC: HIgh Res.  I now have it on
Super72.

> Michael Cox
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From bounce-amos-list--377-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 21 09:59:56 1998
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On 20-Jul-98, Stacey Abshire wrote:
> if there is a nice add-in for AMOS that allows you to create
>friendly Intuition apps, and if so, where can I get a copy of it?

GUI extension

Well met and godspeed,
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From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk@EUnet.yu>

Hello to everyone, I'm back again on the Amos list, hope I'll stay for a
time...

I need help about Printer Dump command. Help says that there is a possible
usage: Printer Dump x1,x2 to y1,y2,px,py,s . s is a special command
parameter which tells printer precisely how to draw an image to the paper.
Could someone give me the list of possible values for s and their effect?

Also, I need some help about how to turn on bidirectional head moving (I
have Citizen ABC printer, Epson compatible), and then make Printer Dump .
Not sure could anyone here help me, but it's worth to try :)

Kind regards,
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

On 20-Jul-98, Andy H wrote:
>If I want to load the sound in should I erase the bank if it exists?

I always use Erase All at the start of my programs. It keeps the memory frag
problem from cropping up.

>What I have been doing in the past is just loading the next file into
>the bank completely destroying the old one.  Which process fragments
>memory quicker?

That's what does it. Amos doesn't really load on top of the old one, it sort
of grabs a new memory hunk.

If you're just testing the program and running it a lot, try doing the load
command the first time you run it, then commenting it out and let amos hold
the sound bank in ram for you.

Well met and godspeed,
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  Hello You,

 I saw that it exists 'CRAFT FOR AMOS' and 'STOS FOR AMOS' 
in the pages of an amiga mail seller. Do someone know these
two softs, are there extentions ? Which commands do they 
contain ? 


   Thank you for information !

       Sylvain 


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Has anyone interfaced with a SCSI device via AMOS?  I need some help!!!
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> 
>    As far as I know, STOS was the first version of what we now call 'AMOS'.
> It was only avalible on the Atari ST. I have no idea what STOS for AMOS
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> 
	Maybe a complete conversion kit?  as I recall Amos includes a
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On 21-Jul-98, Zangiacomi Sylvain wrote:
>From: Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@club-internet.fr>


>  Hello You,

> I saw that it exists 'CRAFT FOR AMOS' and 'STOS FOR AMOS' 
>in the pages of an amiga mail seller. Do someone know these
>two softs, are there extentions ? Which commands do they 
>contain ? 


>   Thank you for information !


   Well, I can tell you what Craft does:


   Its got commands for better palette control, Fractal Commands,
Encryption Commands (I use those a lot:), Inbuilt 'LOGO' command system
and a few other ones.

   As far as I know, STOS was the first version of what we now call 'AMOS'.
It was only avalible on the Atari ST. I have no idea what STOS for AMOS
could be.


>  
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Hello Hakan,

If you Protracker module to use wants, custom you no other libraries 
Uses since Protracker already is installed in the DME. You Must only the
corresponding 
Use libraries, your song also composes which one was

I hope I could help you

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Is there a way to create bobs with more than 32 colors?

Could it be done with paste bob?

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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

On 21-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

>Has anyone interfaced with a SCSI device via AMOS?  I need some help!!!
>Thanks!


Does using a CD-Rom count? Loading data off it should be no problem
just using DOS Mounts eg. CD0:

   If you mean directly Accessing SCSI devices then you'll have to
investigate your device drivers I guess.
 

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On 21-Jul-98, Stephen Lebed wrote:
>From: "Stephen Lebed" <slebed@ix.netcom.com>


>Is there a way to create bobs with more than 32 colors?

>Could it be done with paste bob?

>Thanks
>Stephen Lebed


64 colour EHB bobs are no problem. If you wait for a good AGA extention
then that should offer 256 colour bobs.

   IF you cant wait for that then 4096 colour HAM6 bobs will work, but
you have to understand how HAM works otherwise the bobs & backgrounds 
probably won't display properly.

   Don't forget that the more colours you use the slower the bobs will
be, so insted of having more colours using a better palette can
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C'mon, guys! It's impossible that noone of you know this!

I need help about Printer Dump command. Help says that there is a possible
usage: Printer Dump x1,x2 to y1,y2,px,py,s . s is a special command
parameter which tells printer precisely how to draw an image to the paper.
Could someone give me the list of possible values for s and their effect?

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From bounce-amos-list--392-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul 23 17:06:58 1998
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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

Just lately I've noticed that the price of flat bed scanners has come down a
lot, and are now quite cheap. Unfortunately, I bet there's no such thing as
Amiga software for these things these days :( Has anyone ever had a crack at
interfacing with these, and how difficult is it?
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From bounce-amos-list--395-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul 23 17:35:58 1998
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Hello!

> I was wondering, what (if any) application is out there that could help
> me write the AmigaGuide documentation for my CD Player?

I think you need Heddley. This shareware tool is on the Aminet.

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I recently reinstalled AMOS Pro (My productivity disks have died, if someone
could dms them and mail them to me, it would be appreciated) and am trying to
get all my extensions working again. Now, for some reason, the
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From: Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@club-internet.fr>

Le 23-Juil-98, Mr. Giark To You a écrit:

>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

>I recently reinstalled AMOS Pro (My productivity disks have died, if someone
>could dms them and mail them to me, it would be appreciated) and am trying to
>get all my extensions working again. Now, for some reason, the
>GuiCompPatch.AMOS program gurus my amiga. Any ideas?
> 
>Well met and godspeed,
>                      Giark

  Hi Giark, 

 I'll send you the .DMS of these disks !

  Bye, Sylvain
 
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

On 23-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:
>From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

>Just lately I've noticed that the price of flat bed scanners has come down a
>lot, and are now quite cheap. Unfortunately, I bet there's no such thing as
>Amiga software for these things these days :( Has anyone ever had a crack at
>interfacing with these, and how difficult is it?
>Thanks in advance
>Rod
>-- 
>Mitchell & Whiteley Physiotherapy.

   Amiga Format recently reviewed 2 scanning program that supported most
SCSI flatbeads, I can try to find that issue if you want details.


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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

On 24-Jul-98, Andrew Crowe wrote:
>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

>   Amiga Format recently reviewed 2 scanning program that supported most
>SCSI flatbeads, I can try to find that issue if you want details.
Yes please, we can't get that mag in Australia anymore.
TIA Rod

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On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Andrew Crowe wrote:
> On 21-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
> >Has anyone interfaced with a SCSI device via AMOS?  I need some help!!!
> >Thanks!
>    If you mean directly Accessing SCSI devices then you'll have to
> investigate your device drivers I guess.
Yes, I mean accessing a drive via the SCSI device.  I think all of the commands
are the same (SCSI standard) but just need to know how to set it up.

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On 23-Jul-98, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>C'mon, guys! It's impossible that noone of you know this!

RTFM!

10.03.04

Well met and godspeed,
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
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                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast   |
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On 23-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:
>flat bed scanners
> I bet there's no such thing as
>Amiga software for these things these days :( Has anyone ever had a crack at
>interfacing with these, and how difficult is it?

I think there are a few prgs for this on aminet. If not, maybe IFX can do it.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
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                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
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From bounce-amos-list--400-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul 23 21:28:43 1998
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On 23-Jul-98, Zangiacomi Sylvain wrote:
>>I recently reinstalled AMOS Pro (My productivity disks have died, if someone
>>could dms them and mail them to me, it would be appreciated) 
> I'll send you the .DMS of these disks !

Thanks much.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
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From bounce-amos-list--401-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Thu Jul 23 21:28:44 1998
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If someone out there has run the GUI Complier patch, could you mail me the
following files, as my computer gurus when I try to run the patch program.

Libs:

Gui.Library

AMOS:
GuiCmp
Gui_Backstart.Lib
Gui_Cli.Lib

S:
AMOSPro_Gui_Comp_Config

I have no idea why it won't work on my amiga anymore. I also have no idea
where the files went.
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast   |
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Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

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On 24-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

MY>> C'mon, guys! It's impossible that noone of you know this!

MY> RTFM!

I have no FM, I think I've lost it when i was moving... However, any number
I try simply crashes system after printing.

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On 23-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:
> Just lately I've noticed that the price of flat bed scanners has come down a
> lot, and are now quite cheap. Unfortunately, I bet there's no such thing as
> Amiga software for these things these days :( Has anyone ever had a crack at
> interfacing with these, and how difficult is it?

This kinda surprises me! I've had a flatbed scanner (Epson GT-6500) for many
years and have never had any problems with it at all. I used to go parallel
but have changed to SCSI about a year ago. I use ImageFX to scan and it works
perfect and smooth. There's drivers for most scanners around.

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On 24-Jul-98, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>I have no FM, I think I've lost it when i was moving... However, any number
>I try simply crashes system after printing.

Value Name Description
$0001 MILCOLS px is in 1/1000"
$0002 MILROWS py is in 1/1000"
$0004 FULCOLS use maximum print width
$0008 FULROWS use maximum print height
$0010 FRACCOLS px is a fraction of FULCOLS
$0020 FRACROWS py is a fraction of FULROWS
$0040 CENTRE centre the image on the page
$0080 ASPECT retain the original aspect ratio
$0100 DENSITY1 low density
$0200 DENSITY2
$0300 DENSITY3
$0400 DENSITY4
$0500 DENSITY5
$0600 DENSITY6
$0700 DENSITY7
$0800 NOFORMFEED do not eject paper
$1000 TRUSTME do not reset
$2000 NOPRINT donot print

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


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As soon as possible you should get all your important data off the drive.
The startup-slow down is the motor controller dying.  I've had this problems
countless times.  In a very short time the whole drive will not be
accessable.

Stephen Lebed

    -----Original Message-----
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    Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
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drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

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Gulp!!!
Is there any way to replace the motor?
While putting memory chips on the board I noticed a two connectors, SCSI and
XT, so I am wondering if it is possible to replace the current drive with a
new one?  And if so, which would be the best choice, SCSI or XT?

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lebed [mailto:slebed@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: 24 July 1998 16:02
To: amos-list@onelist.com
Subject: [amos-list] Re: (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems


As soon as possible you should get all your important data off the drive.
The startup-slow down is the motor controller dying.  I've had this problems
countless times.  In a very short time the whole drive will not be
accessable.

Stephen Lebed

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Declan Gorman [mailto:declan_gorman@modusmedia.com]
    Sent: July 24, 1998 1:45 AM
    To: amos-list@onelist.com
    Subject: [amos-list] (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems


    Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

    Declan.

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There is no way to replace the motor.  Hard drives are built to such an
exacting standard that its just not possible.

I had asked all these same questions.  I contacted a company that does data
retrieval, they are the best in the US.  They wanted $3000US to TRY to get
the data off.  They don't guarantee they can do it.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Declan Gorman [mailto:declan_gorman@modusmedia.com]
    Sent: July 24, 1998 9:10 AM
    To: amos-list@onelist.com
    Subject: [amos-list] Re: (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems


    Gulp!!!
    Is there any way to replace the motor?
    While putting memory chips on the board I noticed a two connectors, SCSI
and XT, so I am wondering if it is possible to replace the current drive
with a new one?  And if so, which would be the best choice, SCSI or XT?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stephen Lebed [mailto:slebed@ix.netcom.com]
    Sent: 24 July 1998 16:02
    To: amos-list@onelist.com
    Subject: [amos-list] Re: (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems


    As soon as possible you should get all your important data off the
drive.  The startup-slow down is the motor controller dying.  I've had this
problems countless times.  In a very short time the whole drive will not be
accessable.

    Stephen Lebed

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Declan Gorman [mailto:declan_gorman@modusmedia.com]
        Sent: July 24, 1998 1:45 AM
        To: amos-list@onelist.com
        Subject: [amos-list] (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems


        Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple
of seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

        Declan.

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to get=20
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D940170515-24071998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D940170515-24071998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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current=20
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choice, SCSI=20
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Stephen Lebed=20
    [mailto:slebed@ix.netcom.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July 1998=20
    16:02<BR><B>To:</B> amos-list@onelist.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
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    soon as possible you should get all your important data off the =
drive.&nbsp;=20
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this=20
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time the=20
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D630285914-24071998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Declan =
Gorman=20
        [mailto:declan_gorman@modusmedia.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> July 24, =
1998 1:45=20
        AM<BR><B>To:</B> amos-list@onelist.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[amos-list]=20
        (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D70344107-24071998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2>Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning =
for a=20
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resulted in=20
        some errors on the drive and to be honest I am starting to =
worry.&nbsp;=20
        It is an 5 year old Amiga A570 HD, should I worry?&nbsp; Is =
there=20
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        <DIV><SPAN class=3D70344107-24071998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>

As you probably know, the GUI extension kills the amos sound commands. I tried
using dme instead, but it has big problems with samples of more than 64k. Are
there any other extensions out there that handle samples, preferably as well
as the amos commands? Before you start typing, don't bother telling me about
shareware extensions - they aren't ever worth the money in my experience.
 
Well met and godspeed,
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From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>

Hello Nikola

On 23-Jul-98, Nikola Smolenski smashed the keyboard with:
> From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk@EUnet.yu>
> 
> C'mon, guys! It's impossible that noone of you know this!
> 
> I need help about Printer Dump command. Help says that there is a possible
> usage: Printer Dump x1,x2 to y1,y2,px,py,s . s is a special command
> parameter which tells printer precisely how to draw an image to the paper.
> Could someone give me the list of possible values for s and their effect?

I saw that someone else have typed the values up, so I won't, but it should
be noted that the original IO-Devices extension for AMOS Pro holds a
stack-handeling error when using the full syntax resulting in a crash. 
I made a fixed version some time ago and mailed it to the list, it can also 
be found on my homepages at:

'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'

Please note that the printer.device is very sensitive, so if you send
parameters to it that don't make sense it crashes before printing,
the AMOS command holds NO checking for values.... It's possible
to ask the device to dump a screen as a size of 0*0 dots, crash...

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On 24-Jul-98, Declan Gorman wrote:
>Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
>seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
>drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
>A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

>Declan.

   The problem could be your PSU. Is it a standard A1200 like one, or
do you have a high power one. Even if you do have a high power one,
some models might not be up to it, have you tried your amiga with any
one elses power supply?
   

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From: Martin <tfb@bigfoot.com>

At 09:01 24-07-98 -0600, you wrote:
>        In a very short time the whole drive  will not be accessable.  
>Stephen Lebed   
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>From: Declan Gorman      [mailto:declan_gorman@modusmedia.com]
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>>         Is there anything I can      do?           Declan.
Well, this might not be the problem, but recently i had a drive with
the exact same problem. That got solved by soldering the power connector on
the drive itself. Maybe you have the same problem.
(My oldest drive is a 20MB drive from 1984! Its sitting in an old 8088 8MHz)

CYA. Martin.


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From: Martin <tfb@bigfoot.com>

Hi guys.

Does any of you know the experts exchange?
If you don't, i can tell you that it's a place you can ask questions
in all kinds of areas (no Amiga though) I have sugested to make a
Amiga subject too, but without any luck so far!

So i thought that if some of you guys wouldt suggest the same thing
for them, then they HAVE to make an Amiga area!

The reason i'm so interested in getting Amigas on Experts exchange,
is that the experts have given me some really good answers and help
on setting up our web server. (Server ALLMOST ready to go online!)

If some of you wouldt like to suggest this to Experts exchange, the URL is:

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Hello Mr.

On 24-Lug-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote: [amos-list] Sound

> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
> 
> As you probably know, the GUI extension kills the amos sound commands. I
tried

??? this is true only if you use the Gui Amiga 1 command! If you need samples,
don't use Gui Amiga 1.

> using dme instead, but it has big problems with samples of more than 64k.
Are
> there any other extensions out there that handle samples, preferably as well
> as the amos commands? Before you start typing, don't bother telling me about
> shareware extensions - they aren't ever worth the money in my experience.

try the AMCAF demo on Aminet before....


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> Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
> seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
> drive and to be honest I am starting to worry. It is an 5 year old Amiga
> A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

I'm not sure what the exact problem may be (Stephen's answer sounded the
most probable), but I did have a similar problem with my GVP HD on my old
A500 some years ago. The problem was a faulty power supply that I think may
have been shorted by a lighting storm one night(!) (I remedied this by
getting a new power supply from GVP at little charge!) If this IS the
problem, you could take Andrew's suggestion and try a new power supply.

Adam Parrott, mailto: parrotta@usa.net, ICQ# 12967025, Handle: Axianator
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From bounce-amos-list--418-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 25 10:49:59 1998
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Come on! One of you must have the GUI Compiler patch successfully run! I've
got programs to compile and no way to compile them. Somebody send me the
files.

Libs:
Gui.Library

AMOS:
GuiCmp
Gui_Backstart.Lib
Gui_Cli.Lib

S:
AMOSPro_Gui_Comp_Config

The patch program won't work for me, even if I shut down everything and boot
from floppy.
 
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From bounce-amos-list--420-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sat Jul 25 13:49:47 1998
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I installed amos on the 3000 and ran the compiler patch there and it worked
fine. I don't need the gui compiler files anymore.
 
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Heyas again!

It took me a while to find this new list.
I've been away from the list since it went to the new addy.
Can anyone inform me of the status of Amos 3?
Also, for amos pro 2, What exactly can I do using the HAM mode?
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From bounce-amos-list--423-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Sun Jul 26 04:46:47 1998
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

On 26-Jul-98, Skid wrote:
>From: Skid <skid@angelic.com>

>Heyas again!

>It took me a while to find this new list.
>I've been away from the list since it went to the new addy.
>Can anyone inform me of the status of Amos 3?
>Also, for amos pro 2, What exactly can I do using the HAM mode?
>Are there any restrictions?


   Here are the easiest things to do with HAM:

   * 4096 colour static screens (title screen pic. etc)

   * 4096 colour backgrounds with sprites (only scroll a ham screen
      up or down or they'll look weird)

   * 4096 colour bobs on a 16 colour bg. (make sure you give the bobs
      an outline with one of the first 16 colours)

   * Horizontal colour fades like in the Hired Guns title screen. 
       

There is probably more you could do with HAM, but thats what I'd use
them for.


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From: Skid Vis <skid@angelic.com>

>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>   Here are the easiest things to do with HAM:
>
>   * 4096 colour static screens (title screen pic. etc)
>
>   * 4096 colour backgrounds with sprites (only scroll a ham screen
>      up or down or they'll look weird)
>
>   * 4096 colour bobs on a 16 colour bg. (make sure you give the bobs
>      an outline with one of the first 16 colours)
>
>   * Horizontal colour fades like in the Hired Guns title screen. 

I've tried to open a 4096 color background, but I get errors... am I doing
something wrong?
Here's what I type:

screen open 0,320,200,4096,Lowres
load iff "image.iff",0


Please help me? :)
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From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>

I know we were promised some sort of update on what is happening with
AMOS 3 a while back but nothing has been said so I'll ask this...

When will AMOS use OS firendly screens?
Both for the editor and the games? 
Is this something that is hard to do or not?

I'm asking because of the increase in GFX cards users. I am wanting to
get one myself and don't want all the problems that go with it. 
This is one thng that is starting to push me away from AMOS so please
let us know what's going on!

Thanks,
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Somehow, my ApCmp file got wrecked. Once I fixed that, things started to work
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On a related note, if I reopen the Cap'n Bubba project, is there anyone out
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On 26-Jul-98, Skid Vis wrote:
>From: Skid Vis <skid@angelic.com>

>>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
>>   Here are the easiest things to do with HAM:
>>
>>   * 4096 colour static screens (title screen pic. etc)
>>
>>   * 4096 colour backgrounds with sprites (only scroll a ham screen
>>      up or down or they'll look weird)
>>
>>   * 4096 colour bobs on a 16 colour bg. (make sure you give the bobs
>>      an outline with one of the first 16 colours)
>>
>>   * Horizontal colour fades like in the Hired Guns title screen. 

>I've tried to open a 4096 color background, but I get errors... am I doing
>something wrong?
>Here's what I type:

>screen open 0,320,200,4096,Lowres
>load iff "image.iff",0


   What errors are you getting? as far as I can see it's all fine.

   Is the picture already in Ham6 mode, what program did you save it in?


   Try this: 
     Screen Close 0
     Load Iff "image.iff",0 

   This should open the screen in the right res for you.


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> "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net> wrote:
> 
>> Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
>> seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on
the
>> drive and to be honest I am starting to worry. It is an 5 year old
Amiga
>> A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

>I'm not sure what the exact problem may be (Stephen's answer sounded
the
>most probable), but I did have a similar problem with my GVP HD on my
old
>A500 some years ago. The problem was a faulty power supply that I think
may
>have been shorted by a lighting storm one night(!) (I remedied this by
>getting a new power supply from GVP at little charge!) If this IS the
>problem, you could take Andrew's suggestion and try a new power supply.

I had the same problem myself with the GVP. I started to noticed how
the cooling-fan suddenly could temporarly slow down for a while and
soon enough random read/write errors occured. However the new supply
I got on guarantee (14 days before deadline) :))) fried one of the IC:s
in the HD
so I had to send the whole drive away. When I got it back it was
formated! X-(

Back to your drive...
If you're lucky there might just be a loose cable but it might aswell be
the motor controller or the motor itself.

But get the data off the HD before you try ANYTHING !!!

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Skid Vis wrote:
> 
> From: Skid Vis <skid@angelic.com>
> 
> 
> I've tried to open a 4096 color background, but I get errors... am I doing
> something wrong?
> Here's what I type:
> 
> screen open 0,320,200,4096,Lowres
> load iff "image.iff",0
> 
> Please help me? :)


I don'n know what error message you got but try ...

Screen Close 0
Load Iff "image.iff",0

... OK? ;)

I'm too new in this list and this is my first reply.

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This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Friday 24-Jul-98
Time: 21:39:10
Name: Andrew Crowe
Subject: [amos-list] Re: (Off Topic) Hard Drive problems
So here's a reply...

Hi there,


>From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

>On 24-Jul-98, Declan Gorman wrote:
>>Only recently my harddrive has began to stop spinning for a couple of
>>seconds and then restart again.  This has resulted in some errors on the
>>drive and to be honest I am starting to worry.  It is an 5 year old Amiga
>>A570 HD, should I worry?  Is there anything I can do?

>>Declan.

>   The problem could be your PSU. Is it a standard A1200 like one, or
>do you have a high power one. Even if you do have a high power one,
>some models might not be up to it, have you tried your amiga with any
>one elses power supply?
>   

Yeah,  please  do  get  another  PSU. I had similar probs ages ago. My
Miggy would work fine for 10 mins, then the HD would shut down and the
power LED would flash and the whole thing boots back up!

I  was  convinced my HD was ready to give in, but after getting a loan
of  a  PSU,  everything  was fine. BTW the PSU I got a loan of was not
more powerful than the one i was using!

So mine was obviously just crap :-)

In  the  end  I  bought  a more powerful one anyway. After all, it was
about the same price as the standard C= one at the time.

Good luck and let us all know how you get on....

-- 
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

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the palette has to be set right.  For AMOS, 64 color mode is EHB or
extra half-bright, which means that the second 64 colors are just half
as bright as the first 32 colors.  You can't set the values of the last
32 directly.  So, that is your problem.  You need to make them 32
colors., or figure out a way to set the colors in the last 32 registers
to half as bright from under Photoshop.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Skid Vis [SMTP:skid@angelic.com]
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> 
> From: Skid Vis <skid@angelic.com>
> 
> Ok, here's the situation...
> 
> I'm making a game on the PC ( I know, kill me ) , anyway, I'm also
> trying
> to make it on the miggy at the same time with AMOS. Now, I use
> photoshop
> for my graphics on the PC, then I save them as IFF and reduce the
> palette
> to 64 colors for AMOS.. well, it appears AMOS doesn't like Dpaint 4 or
> something.. my colors get all screwed up. Is there a way to get this
> to
> stop? Or is it only possible to use Dpaint 3 drawn stuff in AMOS?
> 
> Please help crazy ol' me.
> 
> ( Domo! ) ( Thanx! ) ( Gracias! )
> --------
> skid@angelic.com
> http://start.at/skid/
> --------
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">the palette =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: Skid Vis =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ok, here's the =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Please help crazy =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">( Domo! ) ( Thanx! ) =
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From: Skid Vis <skid@angelic.com>

Ok, here's the situation...

I'm making a game on the PC ( I know, kill me ) , anyway, I'm also trying
to make it on the miggy at the same time with AMOS. Now, I use photoshop
for my graphics on the PC, then I save them as IFF and reduce the palette
to 64 colors for AMOS.. well, it appears AMOS doesn't like Dpaint 4 or
something.. my colors get all screwed up. Is there a way to get this to
stop? Or is it only possible to use Dpaint 3 drawn stuff in AMOS?

Please help crazy ol' me.

( Domo! ) ( Thanx! ) ( Gracias! )
--------
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http://start.at/skid/
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> I'm making a game on the PC ( I know, kill me ),

   I wish people would quit apologizing for their PC development!!
   What's important is that you are doing SOMETHING (of course, it's
   always nice when the Amiga benefits from your work).   :-)


> anyway, I'm also trying to make it on the miggy at the same time with
> AMOS. Now, I use photoshop for my graphics on the PC, then I save them
> as IFF and reduce the palette to 64 colors for AMOS.. well, it appears
> AMOS doesn't like Dpaint 4 or something.. my colors get all screwed up.
> Is there a way to get this to stop? Or is it only possible to use Dpaint3
> drawn stuff in AMOS?

   You didn't mention exactly where in the conversion process you are
   using Dpaint 4 and what you are doing with it...

   I convert images over from my PC quite often and would use this
   sequence for your conversion:

   You need some Amiga tool capable of creating HAM images in order
   to convert the 64-color image to an Amiga HAM image...  try
   something like the old HamLab if you can find it.  I think I have it on
   my harddrive someplace...
                                              --- OR ---
   You could simply try using 64 colour EHB mode which is much easier
   to find support for (most popular Amiga Paint software supports EHB).

   Assuming you're going with EHB...

   1. Transfer the 64-color image to DPaint.

   2. Convert the image to a 64-colour (32+32 in reality) EHB image.

   3. Save this image and all should be well.

   However, I have sometimes noticed that Amiga paint programs save
   the palette in rgb8 (AGA) instead of rgb4 (OCS/ECS) which AMOS cannot
   handle.

   To get around this problem, simply boot your Amiga into OCS/ECS
   mode using the Early Startup Menu(?) and then your paint software
   will save the palette info in the correct format.

   Hope this helps, if not e-mail me the image and I'll have a go at
   converting it for you.


                Garfield Benjamin    e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com
                     Website( http://www.sosbbs.com/~gbenjam )  

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Hi Everybody,

On 27-Jul-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
> From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>

>> I'm making a game on the PC ( I know, kill me ),

>   I wish people would quit apologizing for their PC development!!
>   What's important is that you are doing SOMETHING (of course, it's
>   always nice when the Amiga benefits from your work).   :-)

Theres nothing wrong with writing PC programs, unless you wear glasses,
have a stupidly large grin, make far too much money and go by the name 
of '/Bill/' (I need not say any more)

>> anyway, I'm also trying to make it on the miggy at the same time with
>> AMOS. Now, I use photoshop for my graphics on the PC, then I save them
>> as IFF and reduce the palette to 64 colors for AMOS.. well, it appears
>> AMOS doesn't like Dpaint 4 or something.. my colors get all screwed up.
>> Is there a way to get this to stop? Or is it only possible to use Dpaint3
>> drawn stuff in AMOS?

Is that DPaint 4 AGA, if it is then Garfield is right, dont set the 
screenmode at 64 colours, simply put it to EHB mode . 
AMOS Screwed the 64 Colour pics up because it sees 64 colours as EHB, 
when in your case I guess it isn't. If the worst comes to the worst then 
just make do with 32 colours (AMOS will work faster with less colours)

    If you just want the gfx as static screens then why not use HAM6, 
DPaint4 and Amos are quite happy to use that mode.

(I'd use something like ImageFX for converting images, it was free on 
an AF disk, I could send you a copy if you want ;)


>   However, I have sometimes noticed that Amiga paint programs save
>   the palette in rgb8 (AGA) instead of rgb4 (OCS/ECS) which AMOS cannot
>   handle.

Thats really not a problem as amos seems to automatically reduce the 
palette, so although you dont get all the shades, it should still look 
alright. (At least with DPaint V+ImageFX)


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On 27-Jul-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>> I'm making a game on the PC ( I know, kill me ),
>   I wish people would quit apologizing for their PC development!!
>   What's important is that you are doing SOMETHING (of course, it's
>   always nice when the Amiga benefits from your work).   :-)

I wish aminet would stop being all messed up. I've made my first publishable
prg in a while (numerator, bin/dec/hex convert) And I can't upload it because
aminet is being flaky. Anyone wants it, let me know. It's a useful util. It
has three text gadgets. You type in a bin, hex or decimal number and it spits
out the other two formats. Shows up right on the wb and comes in handy.

>> Is there a way to get this to stop? Or is it only possible to use Dpaint3
>> drawn stuff in AMOS?

Amos can use dpaint anything, as long as the file is iff. You can't save
stencils and stuff with it and have amos work it out for you.

Well met and godspeed,
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From bounce-amos-list--437-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 28 01:25:50 1998
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Giark wrote:
> ...if I reopen the Cap'n Bubba project, is there anyone out there
> offering music/graphics?

   IF you REOPEN the project?!  I didn't know you closed it!!

   Hell, we all worked a long time on this project and it'd be ludricous to
   NOT finish it!!!  

   I have an entire CD-ROM filled with something like 3,500 MODS... all PD
   and available for use in programs (of course it'd only be professional
   to give credit to the author's IF their names are visible someplace)...

   Anyway, I'm sure we could find enough MODS out of all those to satisfy
   the music requirements of CBATNAM.

   Give me your street address Giark and I'll send you the CD-ROM
   tomorrow.  You can choose the ones you like best (copy a bunch more
   over to your harddrive for future needs) then send the CD-ROM back. 

   As for GFX well, I'm not much of an artist so unfortunately I can't help
   with that aspect.  :(

   ISN'T THERE EVEN ONE ARTIST ON THIS AMOS LIST WITH ENOUGH
   SKILL TO RENDER THE REMAINING CBATNAM GFX?!?!?

   COME ON, WE NEED YOU  -  VOLUNTEER!!!!  


                Garfield Benjamin    e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com
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From: "James Brown (Ender/Gcc)" <ender@vision.net.au>

Garfield Benjamin wrote:
> 
> From: "Garfield Benjamin" <gbenjam@sosbbs.com>
> 
> Giark wrote:
> > ...if I reopen the Cap'n Bubba project, is there anyone out there
> > offering music/graphics?
> 
>    IF you REOPEN the project?!  I didn't know you closed it!!

I think it was more of postponed then closed...
 
>    Hell, we all worked a long time on this project and it'd be ludricous to
>    NOT finish it!!!

<Nods> Exactly!
 
...

>    As for GFX well, I'm not much of an artist so unfortunately I can't help
>    with that aspect.  :(
> 
>    ISN'T THERE EVEN ONE ARTIST ON THIS AMOS LIST WITH ENOUGH
>    SKILL TO RENDER THE REMAINING CBATNAM GFX?!?!?
>
>    COME ON, WE NEED YOU  -  VOLUNTEER!!!!

I second that... Surly SOMEONE is intrested in voluntering??? Would it
help if I say PLEASE? :)
 
>                 Garfield Benjamin    e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com
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This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Friday 24-Jul-98
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So here's a reply...

Hi there,


>As soon as possible you should get all your important data off the drive.
>The startup-slow down is the motor controller dying.  I've had this problems
>countless times.  In a very short time the whole drive will not be
>accessable.
>Stephen Lebed

That's sound advice, and you may want to take Stephen up on that. It's
ALWAYS advisable to back up important data anyway, just in case...

(I'm sure we have all lost some important stuff due to o backup!)

Anyway,  my  previous  email  on  this  subject stated I had a similar
problem a while ago with a HD and a new PSU sorted it out.

That  HD is still going strong (in another A1200), but re-reading your
(Declan's)  original  email,  it  may  be  that  Stephen is correct in
stating that you HD is about to die :(

So, go on, back up important stuff NOW. Then get hold of a PSU and see
how you get on. If that doesn't work, get a new HD and be thankful you
got  the  data backed up in the nick of time, and, err...thank Stephen
too :-)

TTFN


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Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 28-Jul-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   IF you REOPEN the project?!  I didn't know you closed it!!

The graphic and sound people dried up and blew away. I'm not willing to do
that much work solo on what was supposed to be a joint project. I'm going to
check the list today and send a mail out to see if any of the IAPA have not
found the new amos list.

>   Hell, we all worked a long time on this project and it'd be ludricous to
>   NOT finish it!!!  

True. The website is still up.

>   Anyway, I'm sure we could find enough MODS out of all those to satisfy
>   the music requirements of CBATNAM.

I'd rather not. The whole idea of CBATNAM was to show the power of amos to
create an original game. Using non-commissioned mods would cheapen the
project, not to mention lower the sale price.

>   ISN'T THERE EVEN ONE ARTIST ON THIS AMOS LIST WITH ENOUGH
>   SKILL TO RENDER THE REMAINING CBATNAM GFX?!?!?
>   COME ON, WE NEED YOU  -  VOLUNTEER!!!!  

Stay tuned for a complete CBATNAM update.

Well met and godspeed,
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On 28-Jul-98, Declan Gorman wrote:
>I seem to have lost the keyboard map and cannot figure how to change it
>back.  The problem is when I type [Shift]+[2], I should get quotes ["] but
>get [@] instead.  How can I fix this?  I misplaced my workbench manual a
>long time ago so I am hoping you guys can help.  Thanks in advance.

You probably want the gb keymap. Try looking on your wb disks or just going
into prefs and reset it.

Well met and godspeed,
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>I wish aminet would stop being all messed up. I've made my first publishable
>prg in a while (numerator, bin/dec/hex convert) And I can't upload it because
>aminet is being flaky. Anyone wants it, let me know. It's a useful util. It
>has three text gadgets. You type in a bin, hex or decimal number and it spits
>out the other two formats. Shows up right on the wb and comes in handy.

You uploaded to the Aminet and they didn't put it in the archive for you??! 
Hmm, maybe they would if the program had more features, like if you made a
calculator thing and included conversion of the numbersystems? I don't know...

Next point...

Are somebody in knowlege how far Amos3 development has come? I saw someone
else writing in about it, but he got no answer! I'm sure someone knows!!!
Also,
PaC, on #Amos irc on irc.funet.fi is working on TGE (the game extension), and
maybe
Amos3 will be a waste then, if someone made a way to add amos-extension under
intuition and programming was made with a wordprocessor in ascii and then
compiled
with APCmp :)

Amos3 is a SLOW development, with no news as of yet, to my ears anyway! So
maybe the game extension will fix our programming problems for the amiga
future!?
Just by making a compiler version for ppc and "superchip" in the future.

PS: PLEASE dont be as slow with the amos3 development as AI is with
EVERYTHING!



-Hogne Titlestad of Lunadezign
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Cap'n Bubba
And The
Nasty Alien Menace

Intro
Orbiting above the planet Earth, the
AMOS (Atmospheric Monitoring Orbital
Station) circles in its steady path.

Aboard the AMOS, Cap'n Bubba, aging
superhero, was relaxing in the station
bar (Actually, he was hiding from the
Tax Man, but he's supposed to be a
hero, so forget I ever said anything.)
when an urgent message came in over the
HeroPhone. (Actually, he saw it written
on the men's room wall, but that doesn't
sound nearly so heroic, so, again,
forget I said anything.)

Before Stage 1

There was no time to waste, and no time
to call for reinforcements. Cap'n
Bubba grabbed his trusty Jet-Pac (Er,
actually a couple of fire extinguishers
duct taped together.) and headed off
into the stratosphere to fight the Nasty
Alien Menace (who aren't really nasty at
all, or even all that menacing, but
every hero needs someone to beat the tar
out of, and they lost the toss).

Play Stage 1

Before Stage 2

Cap'n Bubba hurtled through the
atmosphere of the Nasty Alien Planet,
propelled by his Jet-Pac, shooting his
trusty Violence-Dealing Shooter (Okay,
his bubble gun. You're not getting into
the spirit of this hero idea, are you?)
and flew off in search of the Nasty
Alien Menace's main base (or the nearest
bar, whichever came first).

Play Stage 2

Before Stage 3

Cap'n Bubba dropped his VDS (He was out
of bubble juice.) and shed his Jet-Pac
(No more CO2 either.) and strapped on
his dueling gloves to face the Nasty
Alien Guards (or old ladies, or pet
hamsters or anything. It'd been quite
some time since Cap'n Bubba had a drink
and he was getting a bit testy. Well,
how would YOU feel if you were in his
place?) that stood between him and the
Dungeon Of Ultimate Terror (which,
rumour has it, is one hell of a fine
bar, as well as being home to some of
the sweetest exotic dancers in the
galaxy).

Play Stage 3

Before Stage 4

Having defeated the guards (Cap'n Bubba
is something of a dirty fighter, you
see), Cap'n Bubba entered the Dungeon Of
Ultimate Terror (which, it turns out, is
NOT one hell of a fine bar and is
inhabited by Nasty Aliens, not exotic
dancers).

Play Stage 4

Before Bonus Stage

Oh, No! Cap'n Bubba is hallucinating
again (Too much drinking). The good news
is that he could pick up some nifty
bonuses if he can concentrate. The bad
news is that the hallucinations won't
last very long.

Win

The struggle is over. Cap'n Bubba has
defeated the Nasty Alien Menace (through
trickery and dirty pool) and swiped
enough treasure to pay off the Tax Man.
The only bad news is that there is not a
bar in sight!

Lose

The struggle is over. Cap'n Bubba, once
a mighty superhero, is now nothing but a
pathetic drunk. To make matters worse,
the Tax Man is dating Cap'n Bubba's
former girlfriend.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
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>>    ISN'T THERE EVEN ONE ARTIST ON THIS AMOS LIST WITH ENOUGH
>>    SKILL TO RENDER THE REMAINING CBATNAM GFX?!?!?
>>
>>    COME ON, WE NEED YOU  -  VOLUNTEER!!!!

>I second that... Surly SOMEONE is intrested in voluntering??? Would it
>help if I say PLEASE? :)
> 


Well, I do alot of gfx, and I think I'm good enough, even in 3D raytracing and
imageprocessing,
BUT, I'm already on a project, taking all my spare time (talk to NtT on
#amos). But doing
3D shouldn't be hard though for others to do. It is rather easy if you have
the CPU for
it :) So, sorry, I have no time, and secondly, I have a strange feeling that
many others could do it,
just wait for response and secon, ask around on #amos and #amiga/#amirc!

-Hogne Titlestad of Lunadezign
-titlesta@online.no
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Mr. Giark wrote:
> The graphic and sound people dried up and blew away. I'm not willing to
> do that much work solo on what was supposed to be a joint project. I'm
> going to check the list today and send a mail out to see if any of the
> IAPA have not found the new amos list.

   Well, that's certainly understandable - you shouldn't have to do all the
   remaining work by yourself.  Good idea to send out the mailings - soon
   it will be just like "old times" again with you cracking that whip. ;)

 
>> Hell, we all worked a long time on this project and it'd be ludicrous to
>> NOT finish it!!!  
   > True. The website is still up.

      I know... I still visit it.  One look at that page and you can easily
      see the amount of work that has already gone into the project.
      I think it's quite impressive.  :)


>> Anyway, I'm sure we could find enough MODS out of all those to satisfy
>> the music requirements of CBATNAM.
   > I'd rather not. The whole idea of CBATNAM was to show the power of
   > amos to create an original game. Using non-commissioned mods would
   > cheapen the project, not to mention lower the sale price.

      Okay, I understand your point but with something like thirty tunes
      required for the CBATNAM project it may be difficult to find someone
      willing/able to do that much work.  Having said that, I do agree that
      having completely original music composed for CBATNAM would be
      the best way to proceed.  

      We can see what you come up with (ie. perhaps you can contact the
      "old" music man and he'd be willing to continue work) and as a last
      resort we could go with the CD tunes.  The GAME would still be an
      AMOS original regardless of the music and there are some great
      tunes on that CD.  Some of them are quite old but that would most
      likely be an advantage to us... anyway, the offer still stands.
 

>> ISN'T THERE EVEN ONE ARTIST ON THIS AMOS LIST WITH ENOUGH
>> SKILL TO RENDER THE REMAINING CBATNAM GFX?!?!?
>> COME ON, WE NEED YOU  -  VOLUNTEER!!!!  
   > Stay tuned for a complete CBATNAM update.

      I'm tuned.  :-)


                Garfield Benjamin    e-mail:gbenjam@sosbbs.com
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On 27-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
>>>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>


>>>I wish aminet would stop being all messed up. I've made my first
publishable
>>>prg in a while (numerator, bin/dec/hex convert) And I can't upload it
because
>>>aminet is being flaky. Anyone wants it, let me know.


I want it...


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The final update of Mummies Playtime is now availible from the Silly
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From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk@EUnet.yu>

On 24-Jul-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote:

JP> I saw that someone else have typed the values up, so I won't, but it
should
JP> be noted that the original IO-Devices extension for AMOS Pro holds a
JP> stack-handeling error when using the full syntax resulting in a crash. 
JP> I made a fixed version some time ago and mailed it to the list, it can
also 
JP> be found on my homepages at:

JP> 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'

I was there (nice page :) but I couldn't find it. Could you send me direct
URL?

Regards
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On 28-Jul-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   it will be just like "old times" again with you cracking that whip. ;)

Big fun that.

>>> Anyway, I'm sure we could find enough MODS out of all those to satisfy
>>> the music requirements of CBATNAM.
>   > I'd rather not.
>      Okay, I understand your point but with something like thirty tunes
>      required for the CBATNAM project it may be difficult to find someone
>      willing/able to do that much work. 

There are a lot of the original thx tunes still there. If someone would be
willing to do the conversion process, we might just have enough music to make
it work.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
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                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast   |
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From bounce-amos-list--448-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 28 13:51:25 1998
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From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>

Hello Nikola

On 28-Jul-98, Nikola Smolenski smashed the keyboard with:
> From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk@EUnet.yu>
> 
> On 24-Jul-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote:
> 
>> I saw that someone else have typed the values up, so I won't, but it
> should
>> be noted that the original IO-Devices extension for AMOS Pro holds a
>> stack-handeling error when using the full syntax resulting in a crash. 
>> I made a fixed version some time ago and mailed it to the list, it can
> also 
>> be found on my homepages at:
> 
>> 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
> 
> I was there (nice page :) but I couldn't find it. Could you send me direct
> URL?

The link to it is placed a bit stupid on the page, sorry: The direct
URL to the updated lib is:
'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/lha/ioports.lha'

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From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

Thanks for the replies regarding Amiga drivers for flat bed scanners. 
It seems that the consensus is: get an Epson (or compatible) scanner, and
AdPro to drive it via the SCSI port. Sounds great. However, there don't seem
to be any Amiga vendors in Australia anymore. How do I get a hold of AdPro?
Any ideas (this is probably boring for the list, so mail me directly with your
thoughts)
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I was just about to increase the size of my Workbench partition via HDToolbox
(since I'm forever deleting stuff when installing software, fonts etc.) when I
vaguely recalled something about re-partitioning resulting in vast amounts of
lost data on original partitions. I RTFM, but it just tells me to 'see the
Amiga hard drive user's guide' where/whatever the hell that is. Can I increase
the partition size without tears via HDToolBox?
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From bounce-amos-list--454-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 28 19:19:27 1998
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On 28-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:

>I was just about to increase the size of my Workbench partition via
>HDToolbox
>(since I'm forever deleting stuff when installing software, fonts etc.)
>when I
>vaguely recalled something about re-partitioning resulting in vast
>amounts of
>lost data on original partitions.

Only ALL of it is lost. Backup all the data in all partitions you will
change. Repartitioning will make it ALL inaccessible. To be safe, you
should backup everything on the drive, as it is very easy to make a
mistake, and very painful to recover, if you don't lose it forever.
At the very least, make detailed notes about the start and stop
cyliders for each existing partition. Even a change by one cylinder
will render a partition useless.

I've changed things many times, but I once spent 5 hours locating
the partitions on a small drive for a friend of mine, who had been
trying to setup a zip drive, and managed to scramble his harddrive.
 
> Can I increase the partition size without tears via HDToolBox?

As long as you take reasonable precautions and know what you are
doing, it is fairly easy. If in doubt, get help.

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From bounce-amos-list--452-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 28 18:41:25 1998
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From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>

Hi Rod

On 28-Jul-98, Rod Whiteley wrote:
> From: Rod Whiteley <rwhiteley@magnet.com.au>

> I was just about to increase the size of my Workbench partition via
HDToolbox
> (since I'm forever deleting stuff when installing software, fonts etc.) when
I
> vaguely recalled something about re-partitioning resulting in vast amounts
of
> lost data on original partitions. I RTFM, but it just tells me to 'see the
> Amiga hard drive user's guide' where/whatever the hell that is. Can I
increase
> the partition size without tears via HDToolBox?
> Rod

    Yep, I think once you change the partition sizes you loos everthing
on those partitions (I guess you'd have to shrink a different parition
first).

    Before you did any partition work you'd have to backup all your
partitions you are re-sizing. Of course if you dont want that 
hassle you could use something like DiskExpander to compress you HD.
(It would make it slower though).

See ya.
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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Tuesday 28-Jul-98
Time: 15:21:40
Name: Garfield Benjamin
Subject: [amos-list] Re: CBATNAM MUST LIVE!!!
So here's a reply...

Hi there everyone,

Imagine this mailing list if you will over the last few weeks....

Very  quiet  and  not  much  going on, then suddenly, someone mentiond
CBATNAM and soon everyone is chatting again :-)

Any ideas when we can see a release yet?


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From bounce-amos-list--456-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Tue Jul 28 21:07:56 1998
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To the one known as ONElist,
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Greetings all !!

I'm back....

...Where have I been, and whats been happening ?

Discuss.

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When I was finished writing, I realised how long it was so my apologies if
the size of this email upsets anyone.

I thought I would share with you guys, some info on my current AMOS Pro
project......Midi Companion.  It is being coded on my 4MB A500+ with Amos
Pro V2 and it makes heavy use of the GUI extension.  It is a very useful
utility for users of OctaMED and any Midi equipment, especially the Roland
MC-303 Groovebox.  If you have ever used OctaMED you will know that a lot of
"programming" has to be done to access some of the various midi controllers
etc. by using player commands etc.  Midi Companion replaces all of this and
much more, giving the user the ability to easily change Bank Select, Midi
Presets, Instrument Pan, Portamento, Effects, Effect Levels, User Definable
NRPNs & the list is continually growing as I update the code.

At the moment V1.6r is the latest evaluation release and is available for
download from http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/midi_com.htm and V1.7r will
be available soon with even more features.

The future?
I hope to integrate full Arexx support within Midi Companion for better
communication with OctaMED and hopefully lead to real-time editing from Midi
Companion sliders into OctaMED tracks.

Bearing in mind this is my first release and first shareware release, I have
a couple of questions regarding the above......

In the evaluation program I have disabled a lot of the extra features, ie.
User Definable NRPNs, Effect Parameters, Load and Save.
Is this a good idea?
I am constantly debating with myself whether I should enable Load & Save in
the hope that people will see more of Midi Companions potential.

The shareware fee I am requesting is £10 Irish punts which is the equivalent
to £8.50 sterling and $14 US dollars.  Does this seem to much? Too little?
Just about right?

How can I truly copyright my program?
I don't think that writing (c) Declan Gorman is good enough, or is it?

As far as I know there is no other utility like this for OctaMED and my fear
is that with the release of OctaMED V2 next year, the authors may include a
similar thing within OctaMED itself.  Although everything in my program is
based on standard midi controllers and Roland MC-303 specific functions
would I have any legal rights should OctaMED V2 contain similar things?

Am I over reacting?  (After all I have already spent 7 months in total on
this project and will continue to develop it as far as I can.)

A short question on hacking......
At present OctaMED does not allow the serial port to be shared (throwing the
concept of multitasking out the window) and I have to have OctaMED Midi
disabled to allow Midi Companion to work and vice versa.  Would it be
possible to hack OctaMED and remove the code that prevents multitasking?

Can someone do it for me? (he he)

Any answers or advice on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Declan.

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release, I=20
have a couple of questions regarding the above......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>In the=20
evaluation program I have disabled a lot of the extra features, ie. User =

Definable NRPNs, Effect Parameters, Load and Save.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Is=20
this a good idea?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I am=20
constantly debating with myself whether I should enable Load &amp; Save =
in the=20
hope that people will see more of Midi Companions =
potential.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>The=20
shareware fee I am requesting is &pound;10 Irish punts which is the =
equivalent=20
to &pound;8.50 sterling and $14 US dollars.&nbsp; Does this seem to =
much? Too=20
little? Just about right?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>How=20
can I truly copyright my program?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I=20
don't think that writing (c) Declan Gorman is good enough, or is=20
it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>As far=20
as I know there is no other utility like this for OctaMED and my fear is =
that=20
with the release of OctaMED V2 next year, the authors may include a =
similar=20
thing within OctaMED itself.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Although=20
everything in my program is based on standard midi controllers and =
Roland MC-303=20
specific functions would I have any legal rights should OctaMED V2 =
contain=20
similar things?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Am I=20
over reacting?&nbsp; (After all I have already spent 7 months in total =
on this=20
project and will continue to develop it as far as I =
can.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>A=20
short question on hacking......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>At=20
present OctaMED does not allow the serial port to be shared (throwing =
the=20
concept of multitasking out the window) and I have to have OctaMED Midi =
disabled=20
to allow Midi Companion to work and vice versa.&nbsp; Would it be =
possible to=20
hack OctaMED and remove the code that prevents =
multitasking?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Can=20
someone do it for me? (he he)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Any=20
answers or advice on the above would be greatly =
appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D260271010-29071998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

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Thanks for all you help guys, one more thing......Are there any hard drives
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On 28-Jul-98, Titlestad wrote:
>You uploaded to the Aminet and they didn't put it in the archive for you??! 
>Hmm, maybe they would if the program had more features, like if you made a
>calculator thing and included conversion of the numbersystems? I don't
know...

No, aminet was screwed up. It would not allow uploads. It is fixed now. You
can find in in:

util/wb/FBN-Nmtr.lha

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From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Tuesday 28-Jul-98
Time: 17:29:14
Name: Hakan Venderlof
Subject: [amos-list] Re: amos-list
So here's a reply...

Hi there,


> From: Hakan Venderlof <grok@flashback.net>
> 
> On 27-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
>>>> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>
> 
> 
>>>> I wish aminet would stop being all messed up. I've made my first
> publishable
>>>> prg in a while (numerator, bin/dec/hex convert) And I can't upload it
> because
>>>> aminet is being flaky. Anyone wants it, let me know.
> 
> 
> I want it...
> 

Yeah count me in as well, I'd like to see your *Numerator* util also :-)

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This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Tuesday 28-Jul-98
Time: 06:52:41
Name: Declan Gorman
Subject: [amos-list] (Off Topic) - Keymap
So here's a reply...

Hi there Declan,

> I seem to have lost the keyboard map and cannot figure how to change it
> back.  The problem is when I type [Shift]+[2], I should get quotes ["] but
> get [@] instead.  How can I fix this?  I misplaced my workbench manual a
> long time ago so I am hoping you guys can help.  Thanks in advance.
> Declan.

If you look in Devs:Keymaps you should see the files you need. If you want
the USA and UK keymaps sent to you, emaail me and ask :-)

Why not try this at the CLI....

Setmap UK

See if that does anything.....


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On 29-Jul-98, Keith Hill wrote:

>Greetings all !!

>I'm back....

wow, I thaught you had left the Amiga scene.

>...Where have I been, and whats been happening ?

Giark is thinking of finishing CBATNAM, nothing much else though!

welcome back...

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> Very  quiet  and  not  much  going on, then suddenly, someone mentiond
> CBATNAM and soon everyone is chatting again :-)

I don't think its been quiet. It seems to have taken on a new life
since we moved to this new list.
It also seems that theres a lot of new people contributing a lot now.
I guess all the oldies are starting to drop dead now.

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The 29-Juil-98, Declan Gorman wrote:

>Thanks for all you help guys, one more thing......Are there any hard drives
>currently available that are compatible with my A500+ ?

   Hi !

 I use a A500+ too. On my Zorro, I've got the M'TEC AT500 interface in
which I put an IDE HD, a ROM, and some RAM. It works perfectly.
M'TEC is a german society who did acceleration cards, and others.
Ask your best Amiga dealer to obtain their address, they may have
something in the stocks for you.
 
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	Rod,
	Just to back up what Dave said, intuitively anytime you think
"repartition" or "reformat" you should always think "Lose all Data"
infact anytime you think about altering your HD setup at all you should
think "Lose All Data"  My defragging utility (QB tools) warns me to back
everything up before running it as it might destroy vital data as it
defrags, now there's a scary thought!

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe
ps
	of course Dave is right, thoeretically you could get away with
a reparition without losing everything on your drive but my gut tells me
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I was wondering.  On the Amiga, when you see a C program and it defines
a variable to be an integer, how many bytes does that use?  I have seen
2 or 4.  Same goes for unsigned integers (2 or 4 bytes).  I ask because
I am writing a program that uses library calls and returns an address
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Thanks for any information.  Or, is there a site that explains it?

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Hello Rod you said:

> I was just about to increase the size of my Workbench partition via HDToolbox
> (since I'm forever deleting stuff when installing software, fonts etc.) when
> I vaguely recalled something about re-partitioning resulting in vast amounts
> of lost data on original partitions. I RTFM, but it just tells me to 'see the
> Amiga hard drive user's guide' where/whatever the hell that is. Can I
> increase the partition size without tears via HDToolBox? Rod

It can be done BUT first back up EVERYTHING on the hard drive. Only when you
are confident you have perfect backups use HDToolbox to re-partition the
drive. After re-partitioning you have to format each changed partition; this
can be a quick-format but without backups you will still need to use DiscSalv
or some such to recover lost files. I speak from experience on this! HDToolbox
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From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>

> The 29-Juil-98, Declan Gorman wrote:
> 
> >Thanks for all you help guys, one more thing......Are there any hard drives
> >currently available that are compatible with my A500+ ?

	Declan,
	I actually have one such M-tec number on an A500+ that's currently
just collecting dust in a closet back home, it has 4 megs worth of ram in
it too, I'm not sure what the going price for such things is these days
but I wouldn't mind parting with it cheaply if it'd help you out some, of
course the HD in it is an old old 80 meg drive I had to nudge a little to
get up and spinning last time I checked so you'd probly want to put your
own drive in there which would mean installing and formatting it and all
that jazz, oh and I'm in the states so if you're overseas shipping could
be cost prohibitive but anyway let me know if it could be some use to you
as I'm probly never going to use it (i have two stacked 3000's) and I'd
hate to be sitting on while other Amigans go in want.
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>I want it...  
>>>You got it.   
>>>Well met and godspeed,     
>>>      Giark        

Thanks. Nice pice.
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From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>

Firstly to Braneloc (Keith), welcome back! Many of us (myself included) had
wondered where you had disappeared to. Good to see you back! (About IRC..?)

Secondly, on the subject of CBATNAM; I will not be finishing my level I had
going, namely for two reasons: One I don't have time (more schooling and
studies coming up again for another year) and Two I don't have the
horsepower needed to code such a raycaster in AMOS as of yet. I have
recently gotten my hands on the RKM's and PhxAss, hoping to get myself into
some Assembler, making my future AMOS coding faster (until AMOS-3). Until
then however, I'm afraid I can't offer much in the way of my level. Sorry.

I am, however, available for the graphics I originally signed up for.
Although I'm currently involved on finishing my website (which I just
recently got back to) and working on a personal project on my PC (more
details on these _VERY_ soon), I should be able to fit in a few graphics.
Just tell me what you need and I'll see what I can do. If any of you forget
what my previous work looked like, goto the CBATNAM website and check it
out. I'm pretty sure there are still a few other good graphicians here too.

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On 29-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@eds.com>

>I was wondering.  On the Amiga, when you see a C program and it defines
>a variable to be an integer, how many bytes does that use?  I have seen
>2 or 4.  Same goes for unsigned integers (2 or 4 bytes).  I ask because
>I am writing a program that uses library calls and returns an address
>where a data structure was created.  I then read the right number of
>bytes to get the correct info.  Let me know if that does not make
sense.

Makes great sense, but the answer may not. Current Amiga C compilers
use 4 byte ints, and some, such as the SAS/LATTICE line always have.
It is usually an option though to switch the default to 2 byte, and
that was the standard for older Manx/Aztec 3.? and below. In general,
code newer than OS2.0 will use long (4 byte) int, but older code may
vary. The best 'C' technique is to use an explicit typedef's for
anything where it really matters (LONG,SHORT,ULONG,USHORT,etc. as the
OS includes provide, and depend on, these) just to eliminate any
confusion. I guess the best answer would be assume long (4 byte size)
unless proven otherwise. For every compiler I can think of, the size
of an int and an unsigned int would be the same by default.

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From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

To the one known as Peter,
> >Greetings all !!
> >I'm back....
> wow, I thaught you had left the Amiga scene.

Not quite..
 
> >...Where have I been, and whats been happening ?
> Giark is thinking of finishing CBATNAM, nothing much else though!
> welcome back...

Thankx, I've been away too long.  I've missed everyone terribly.


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From bounce-amos-list--475-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul 29 22:17:42 1998
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From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

To the one known as Adam,
> Firstly to Braneloc (Keith), welcome back! Many of us (myself included) had
> wondered where you had disappeared to. Good to see you back! (About IRC..?)

Uh, yeah, I started hitting it again last night.
 
> Secondly, on the subject of CBATNAM; I will not be finishing my level I had

Bogus.
 
> I am, however, available for the graphics I originally signed up for.

Cool.


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From bounce-amos-list--476-mcox=access.digex.net@onelist.com Wed Jul 29 22:26:48 1998
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From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

To the one known as Alastair,
> > Very  quiet  and  not  much  going on, then suddenly, someone mentiond
> > CBATNAM and soon everyone is chatting again :-)

It's probably waking everyone up to an old promise they made.  Excellent.

> I don't think its been quiet. It seems to have taken on a new life
> since we moved to this new list.

The new list is, err, different.  Wierd.

> It also seems that theres a lot of new people contributing a lot now.
> I guess all the oldies are starting to drop dead now.

..I'm not dead yet.


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On 29-Jul-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:

CD> I was wondering.  On the Amiga, when you see a C program and it defines
CD> a variable to be an integer, how many bytes does that use?  I have seen

It depends on a compiler. SAS, for instance, has option SHORTINTEGERS , and
uses 4 bytes without it, and 2 bytes with it.

CD> 2 or 4.  Same goes for unsigned integers (2 or 4 bytes).  I ask because

They should be same as signed.

CD> I am writing a program that uses library calls and returns an address
CD> where a data structure was created.  I then read the right number of
CD> bytes to get the correct info.  Let me know if that does not make
sense.

If you want to be sure about size of your data, use WORD or LONG instead of
int . Or you can check data size with sizeof() function.

Note that, in structures, variables are padded to even adresses. So, if you
have

struct somestruct {
    char a;
    LONG b;
};

it has length of 6, not 5 because there is pad byte between a and b which
is used to store b at even adress.

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From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>

Hi!

As mentioned in the message subject, i'm here to explain the future and the
present of AMOS.


*                   PLEASE READ CAREFULLY _ALL _THE MESSAGE!!*


As you know some months ago i've obtained the AMOS sources... in this months
i've spent my time learning the AMOS internal functions and structures,
in order to upgrade it and develop the new AMOSPro V3... but i've to say that
my projects are deeply changed during this period. My original idea was to
upgrade/expand it, add the AGA support and mainly makes it more OS friendly!
but when i've examined the sources some problems are emersed.

Its old AmigsOS v1.3 structure, the total not OS friendly design, and the
confused
programming style, makes it really hard to upgrade as we want.... in order to
obtain the wanted results we have to rewrite it! :'(

So after some meetings with the other developers, we've decided to follow a
bit different way.... probably the /best/ choice for you and for us.


 *                      _AMOS will have a future and also a good present _*




                                             *- The Present -*


We'll release a upgrade package for AMOSPro... you'll obtain:

- expanded/bug fixed version of AMOSPro and compiler
- new extensions
- new tools 
- developer infos
- tons of AMOS materials

in detail:

*- EXPANDED BUG FIXED VERSION OF AMOSPRO AND COMPILER*

Self explaning.... we'll try to fix as many bugs as possible, and expand some
Amos functions. In particular i'm working on the AMOS Equates system...  the
equate system is a very good idea, but badly implemented. It'll works in a
totally different way, similar to the other languages. I've changed the amos
command Include"".... now it doesn't import a amos source in your program (...
a very stupid idea IMHO in a basic enviroment) but import your symbols. What
symbols? A good news... thanks to the collaboration with Wouter Van
Oortmerssen ( the Amiga E author) Amos will be able to import and use the
Amiga E modules! (supplied with the upgrade or available on Aminet)

The Struct() command has been extended, and now accept a C-like access method 

i.e  A=Struct(S,"RastPort,BitMap") : Struct(S,"Window,UserData")=255

in the first example you define the variable S as a pointer to a RastPort
structure and then the BitMap field will be returned. In the second S is a ptr
to a Window, and the UserData field will be set to 255.


*- NEW EXTENSIONS*


Since seriously upgrade the main AMOS code isn't possible (... upgrade it
means totally rewrite it!) we've decided to expand it trough our extensions.

This extesions will be added:

- Game Extension
- OsDevKit Extension
- AMCAF Extension
- GUI Extension
- FD Extension
- Turbo Plus 2.15 Registered
- PowerBob 1.1 Registered
- Amos3D *(not confirmed)*



A tipical question.... i already have the GUI Extension, AMCAF etc.. then i
already have the new  Amos?????

_/*NO!!!!!*/_

This extensions will be powered! and new functions will be added. Thanks to
the AMOS sources the new extensions will be better and faster.

The /GUI Extension v2.0/ will offers locale support, eXtra Fast Animation
(XFA) format support,  a better IFF support, drag'n'drop, app icons, new
advanced internet functions and lot more!


Together the /OsDevKit/  (now its size is greater than the main AMOSPro Lib!)
you'll have the most advanced AmigaOS support available. It supports all the
programming stuff like datatypes, RTG, boopsi, locale, gadtools, intutition
,gfx cards, etc.

The new /FD Extension v3.0/ creates a better code, and as you know it allows
you to integrate as standard Amos commands the functions of all the standard
Amiga libraries (MUI, Exec, Dos etc) using in-line code ie:

A=Lvo MakeVPort(W,V) : A=Lvo Mrgcop(W)


/AMCAF../ well.. probably the most famous Amos extension :) What can i say...
new version =  new power!


The /Game/ Extension is the games coders dream.. it allows you to create your
game with AGA support (screens,bobs,gfx...) with a incredible speed!
The Bobs are *4 time faster* than the Amos one! and the most important detail
is the *totally OS friendly design!*  plus you'll have a complete CDDA support
and may other useful functions.
 

_Plus the latest registered versions of Turbo Plus (v2.15) and PowerBobs
(v1.1)._


I'm working on AMOS3D.... i hope to include it in the upgrade release. This
extensions offers a complete access to *ALL* the system resources,
and cover all the programming requirements.

Briefly you'll obtain:

- the complete package AMOSPro + Compiler
- 100% complete AmigaOS support thanks to GUI and OsDevKit
- new Games coding engine... it's AGA, It's fast, it's OS Friendly, it's
   easy...
- lots of bug fixes
- cool demos and materials
- our support!! Now you've someone to blame directly if there is something
   unstable! :)


*- NEW TOOLS*

Some new tools will be added to the default Amos distribution, for example:


/IED - The Intuition Editor/

This program allows you to use the AMOSPro editor with a intuition screen! Now
you can program in Amos in the WB enviroment... is fantastic drag the AMOS 
editor screen together the others ;)


/AmilED - The AMOSPro Interface Language Editor/

It allows you to easly create your interfaces (and sources) in few minutes.
You can directly edit them or create the interfaces using the mouse
(GadToolsBox like), so the source code will be automatically created for you!
Thanks to this function you can create your interfaces without any knowledge
of the Amos interface language!!


/GUI Converter and GTBoxConverter/

This tools allows you to easly import your GadToolsBox GUI in your AMOS
programs as GUI bank or Amos (OsDevKit) source code!


bug fixed version of the standard AMOSPro tools like the Compiler Shell or the
AMAL editor.



/*DEVELOPER INFOS*/

The new AMOSPRO v2.x developer kit will be included, with all the extra tools
never released in the old versions. 


*TONS OF AMOS MATERIALS*

Examples,demos,games,sources,extensions, tons of materials coming from the
Mushroom PD library (the new official AMOS library) will be included.



All this stuffs will be released on a CD... the *Amos Developer CD*. The
release date is December '98. The price... not decided yet, /but it'll be very
cheap!/




*                                               _The Future*_


Well... due to the recent Amiga Inc annoncement, the PPC development, the new
top secret CPU and OS is clear that Amos needs to be heavly upgraded to follow
and support the new upcoming standards. But since upgrade AMOS isn't possible
since *its code isn't portable to different CPU*, we've decided to develop a
*NEW LANGUAGE!* Totally written in pure C++, it'll be easly portable on the
different CPUs like 68k and PPC. It's totally OS friendly, and the compiler
can optmize your code! The project name is AMOS NG. Now it's under development
together the AmosPro upgrade... more infos about this project will follow in
the future.


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
   |           ICQ 16361472                         \/// 18MB - CD4x    |
   |                                                                    |
   |  Amos Developer Team Coordinator                 AMIGA RULEZ!      |
   |                                                                    |
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:

12967025 Axianator
16361472 Ghizzo
12235820 Giark
9701389 Mush
955879 Wendal

If you're not on the list above and you are on icq, why are you not telling
us?
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
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	hello there

	...may sound stupidy but I can't load an icon bank.
	I try load the abk file in bank 2 but dosen't work
	When I paste an icon I get the bank not reserved

	help?

	See ya!
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What is the CBATNAM website url? :)


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Hello!

While I making my extension, I have got a problem.
Is there any way to change the contents of a string variable from an
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Hello!

I am working on a Database xtension, which is using XBase compatible data
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Hello!

>*NEW LANGUAGE!* Totally written in pure C++, it'll be easly portable on
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>different CPUs like 68k and PPC. It's totally OS friendly, and the
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There is an important question:
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From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

To the one known as Pietro,
> All this stuffs will be released on a CD... the *Amos Developer CD*. The
> release date is December '98. The price... not decided yet, /but it'll be very
> cheap!/

Where do I sign ?  ;-)


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To the one known as Pietro,
> All this stuffs will be released on a CD... the *Amos Developer CD*. The
> release date is December '98. The price... not decided yet, /but it'll be very
> cheap!/

Where do I sign ?  ;-)


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On 30-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

> AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:
> If you're not on the list above and you are on icq, why are you not telling
> us?

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Hello Lazar

On 30-Lug-98, Lazar Zoltan wrote: [amos-list] Re: The AMOS Future

> From: Lazar Zoltan <lazi@compuserve.com>
> 
> Hello!
> 
>> *NEW LANGUAGE!* Totally written in pure C++, it'll be easly portable on
> the
>> different CPUs like 68k and PPC. It's totally OS friendly, and the
> compiler
>> can optmize your code! The project name is AMOS NG.
> 
> There is an important question:
> Is my current source code will be portable with AMOS NG?

it's a new language, similar and easy to use like AMOS, but you can't directly
import your Amos sources.... anyway you can easly adapt your code.


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To the one known as Lazar,
> From: Lazar Zoltan <lazi@compuserve.com>
> I am working on a Database xtension, which is using XBase compatible data
> files and Dbase like functions.
> Is there anybody, who interested about it?
> I will upload the current version to the Aminet shortly, but I am curious
> about its interest.

Hmm, interesting.  Now if it could read dbase files, it'd be well worth it.
They are fairly simple if memory serves..


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To the one known as Rune,
> > AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:
> > If you're not on the list above and you are on icq, why are you not telling
> > us?
> 

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On 31-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:

>AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:

>12967025 Axianator
>16361472 Ghizzo
>12235820 Giark
>9701389 Mush
>955879 Wendal

theres also:

15173722 Muzza
16413517 PAC(me)

>If you're not on the list above and you are on icq, why are you not telling
>us?

cos I just got on today!

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On 31-Jul-98, Keith Hill wrote:
>From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

>To the one known as Pietro,
>> All this stuffs will be released on a CD... the *Amos Developer CD*. The
>> release date is December '98. The price... not decided yet, /but it'll be
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>> cheap!/

>Where do I sign ?  ;-)
                            
Why ALL of your mails are sent twice!
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On 31-Jul-98, Lazar Zoltan wrote:
>From: Lazar Zoltan <lazi@compuserve.com>

>Hello!

>I am working on a Database xtension, which is using XBase compatible data
>files and Dbase like functions.
>Is there anybody, who interested about it?
>I will upload the current version to the Aminet shortly, but I am curious
>about its interest.
       
Could you give me a list of its commands ?

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 Hi

	as said...
 
> AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:
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> 12967025 Axianator
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> From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

> To the one known as Rune,
>>> AMOS Listers on ICQ that I know of:
>>> If you're not on the list above and you are on icq, why are you not
telling
>>> us?
>> 

For those of you unaware. There is a quite good ICQ program for the Amiga
called DT-ICQ. It is still on an experimental state, eg. there's no
chat-function and you still can't register at Mirabilis. Otherwise runs fine.
I doubt it is on Aminet, but if any of you want it, I can mail it to you...

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On 30-Jul-98, Lazar Zoltan wrote:
>I am working on a Database xtension, which is using XBase compatible data
>files and Dbase like functions.
>Is there anybody, who interested about it?

Possibly. I guess it depends on the features/uses/slot of it.

Well met and godspeed,
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                                             ICQ 12235820
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
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On 30-Jul-98, Lazar Zoltan wrote:
>>different CPUs like 68k and PPC. It's totally OS friendly, and the
>>compiler can optmize your code! The project name is AMOS NG.
>There is an important question:
>Is my current source code will be portable with AMOS NG?

You know, he's right. That's a real good question. I suppose, if the amos code
was ported to ascii (I assume amos: the next generation will be standard text,
not amos funky format), you could make an import function?

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
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On 30-Jul-98, Keith Hill wrote:
>> All this stuffs will be released on a CD... the *Amos Developer CD*. The
>> release date is December '98. The price... not decided yet, /but it'll be
>>very cheap!/
>Where do I sign ?  ;-)

Right under my name, mate. Q8-{) Looks like I need to get a cdrom drive again
before december.

A salient point, however is:

What about all the amos users who do not have cdrom drives? Could there be a
smaller version (no examples programs or stuff) distributed on floppy?

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                             ICQ 12235820
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From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

On 30-Jul-98, Rune J. Keller wrote:
>For those of you unaware. There is a quite good ICQ program for the Amiga
>called DT-ICQ.

On the other hand, STRICQ does allow you to get a uin (its mui, and that
sucks, but its the most advanced/stable amiga version (I've tried 4 different
programs so far)).

http://www.momo2000.com/~mclaughd/

The updated list:
12967025 Axianator Adam Parrott
16380212 Braneloc Keith Hill
7823451 Ender/Gcc+(ÄÑî) James Brown
16361472 Ghizzo Pietro Ghizzoni
12235820 Giark Mr.Giark To You
5018620 Jack Burton Erico Monteiro
9701389 Mush Andrew Kellett
16413517 PAC Peter Cahill
12997219 Rune Rune Keller
955879 Wendal Andrew Hawkins

Getting there. Q8-{)

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
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                            .----------------------------------------------.
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On 31-Jul-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.ddns.org>

> On 30-Jul-98, Rune J. Keller wrote:
>> For those of you unaware. There is a quite good ICQ program for the Amiga
>> called DT-ICQ.

> On the other hand, STRICQ does allow you to get a uin (its mui, and that
> sucks, but its the most advanced/stable amiga version (I've tried 4
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> programs so far)).

Sorry - I messed up. I meant STRICQ... :)

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Hi Mr. Giark To You. Hmmmm, why not use your own name???

Den 31-Jul-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You:


MGTY> The updated list:
MGTY> 12967025 Axianator Adam Parrott
MGTY> 16380212 Braneloc Keith Hill

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Hi Mr. who ever you are ;)

Den 31-Jul-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You:


MGTY> A salient point, however is:
MGTY> 
MGTY> What about all the amos users who do not have cdrom drives? Could there
be a
MGTY> smaller version (no examples programs or stuff) distributed on floppy?

On the other hand, CDrom drives are VERY cheap today, every one who have an
Amiga should buy one and get the complete collection of AMOSUpgrade :).

I think, even a poor studen could affort to buy a CDrom drive.


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>I am working on a Database extension, which is using XBase compatible
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I am interested.  I am still trying to figure out if an ODBC interface
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>files and Dbase like functions.
>Is there anybody, who interested about it?
>I will upload the current version to the Aminet shortly, but I am
curious
>about its interest.

I would be interested

Stacey

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From: Braneloc@mirex.demon.co.uk (Keith Hill) (Keith Hill)

To the one known as Mr.,
> >>compiler can optmize your code! The project name is AMOS NG.
> >Is my current source code will be portable with AMOS NG?> 
> You know, he's right. That's a real good question. I suppose, if the amos code
> was ported to ascii (I assume amos: the next generation will be standard text,
> not amos funky format), you could make an import function?

Perhaps start publishing command structures as soon as possible..


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I have a text file that explains some library commands, but it is all in
German.  I am thinking of using this library to write my CD Player in
AMOS.  Would someone want to translate the file (into English) for me?
It is kind of large but any help would be appreciated.

I can email it to you so just reply to me instead of the list.  Thanks.

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Hello Palle

På 31-Jul-98, skrev Palle Anker Larsen:

> From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
> 
> Hi Mr. who ever you are ;)
> 
> Den 31-Jul-98 skrev Mr. Giark To You:
> 
> 
>> A salient point, however is:
>> 
>> What about all the amos users who do not have cdrom drives? Could there
> be a
>> smaller version (no examples programs or stuff) distributed on floppy?
> 
> On the other hand, CDrom drives are VERY cheap today, every one who have an
> Amiga should buy one and get the complete collection of AMOSUpgrade :).
> 
> I think, even a poor studen could affort to buy a CDrom drive.
> 
> 
Regards

I abselutely agree, but i thought the amos upgrade was going to be free? That
was the original statement anyway. And about that new rewrite. I agree with AF
in the latest issue of the mag, with all the crap basic has put into my brain,
I would really dislike future amos command lending atmosphere from C/++. 

Also, Pac (Peter Cahill), WHEN  IS TGE FINISHED, I need is SO urgently!


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	Eric,
	you don't need to specify the bank when loading icons, 
	so just
	load "icons.abk" (or however your file is called/located)
	should work, also make sure the bank was saved as an
	Icon bank as opposed to a Bob bank by the sprite editor.
	hope that helps some.
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> > On the other hand, CDrom drives are VERY cheap today, every one who have an
> > Amiga should buy one and get the complete collection of AMOSUpgrade :).
> > 
> > I think, even a poor studen could affort to buy a CDrom drive.
	As a poor student myself I can verify this, but the trouble isn't
with getting a cheap CD-Rom it's with getting a decent IDE/SCSI device
cheap.  I'm in luck cause my 'miggy is a 3000 with built in SCSI but I
think there are alot of folks on the list with A500 and A1200's who might
not be so lucky, I don't know maybe you guys should speak up!


> I would really dislike future amos command lending atmosphere from C/++. 

	I for one would love this, give us C-like data structures and
variables whose bit depth can be defined by the coder.  Oh but don't lose
one thing, be sure the editor will still 'hide' sub routines ala the
original Amos editor, you would not believe how handy this, or difficult
navigating code can be without it!
		
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>cheap.  I'm in luck cause my 'miggy is a 3000 with built in SCSI but I
>think there are alot of folks on the list with A500 and A1200's who
might
>not be so lucky, I don't know maybe you guys should speak up!
I have an A1200 with a SquirrelScsi.  Cost about $100.  I think everyone
should have a CD ROM drive.  You can get them cheap and get the
interfaces cheap too ($100 is not bad or used of course).

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Hey! I'm on ICQ too. My number is: 13580606
I'm about to try out the FD extention. Wish me good luck :)

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