From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 06:13:35 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 06:13:35 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07135
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 06:13:34 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA08696
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:59:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08693
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:58:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15400
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:58:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc18.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.18]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id LAA28502 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:58:46 +0200 (CEST)
From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
To: AmosList <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1978 18:48:10 +0500
Message-ID: <yam178.520.2014235072@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: GUI & Stuff
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 


Hello.

Thanx to those who helped me out with my previous questions, but now i have
some more questions that i'll need help with.


1. I have made my Gui file in GadtoolsBox and saved it with the save 
   command without crunching it.
   Then i go into AmosPro and start GuiConvert from my user screen, and
   klick's on the Gui file i joust saved in GadToolsBox, but nothing happens 
   exept that the requester pops up again asking for a Gui file.
   What's wrong????????

2. I read some place in the Guide for Gui Extension that there was a seperate 
   doc for the TCP commands, where can i get this Doc??? And is there a doc
   that explains the usage of how to for eksample check if a button on
   your Gui file has been klicked on???

3. Well this one is a bit hard for me to explain, but how do i go abouth 
   making a bar show up over a text when the mouse is over a Zone, but
   the text must be over the bar.
   If you have read some Diskmags you will have seen that most of them 
   have a bar that shows up under the article name when you move the mouse 
   over a article name, this is what i want.

Oki, please help me with this questions, so issue 4 of my diskmag can be 
really cool, so those Amos haters in the Amiga Scene can see that Amos is 
good for something.

Morten Bolstad


- Of all the things i have lost, 
  i miss my mind the most.



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 07:15:12 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 07:15:11 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16577
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 07:15:09 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA08766
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 07:39:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08763
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 07:39:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08550
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 07:39:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc16.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.16]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id NAA02805 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:39:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
To: AmosList <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1978 20:36:49 +0500
Message-ID: <yam178.2497.2013864872@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Using the printer
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 


Hello.

Here is a question that i forgot to include in my last mail.

I want a option to print the article you are reading in my diskmag to the
Printer.

Here is a bit of my code for putting the text file into a mem bank for 
displaying the text in the diskmag.


CODE$="I'am not gonna tell you"
Open In 1,F$ : SIZE=Lof(1) : Close 1
Reserve As Work 10,SIZE
Bload F$,10
Mem Unscramble 10,CODE$

After this i have a unscrambled version of the text file in bank 10,
what i now want to do is to print the text file i have in bank 10 to
the printer.

After trying some of the commands i tryed Printer out Start(10),Length(10)
and i thought that should work, but all i got on paper was some garbage,
What's the right way for doing this???

Morten Bolstad



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  1 10:28:05 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  1 10:28:04 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13234
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:28:03 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11516
	for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:13:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11481
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us [204.194.39.250])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22707
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:13:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost (fer007@localhost) by fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA30777; Fri, 1 May 1998 10:18:50 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:18:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: fernando Bartra <fer007@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
To: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
cc: AmosList <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: Amos Rools
In-Reply-To: <yam176.237.2014028600@smtp.eunet.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980501101815.31140A-100000@fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

all of Vulcan games (valhalla,hillsea lido,ect)i think were done in AMos,
good games.

rednova


On Mon, 26 Jun 1978, Morten Bolstad wrote:

> 
> Hello.
> 
> I'am thinking of writing a article abouth grait productions done in Amos to
> show those guy's that dont like Amos what it's good for, so let me know
> What games & stuff that are done in Amos.
> 
> If some of you also wanna write some articles, they will be welcome.
> 
> 
> Morten Bolstad  
> 
> 


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  1 11:39:47 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  1 11:39:46 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04869
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:39:45 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16036
	for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:08:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16033
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:08:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-32-98.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.134.98])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07188
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:08:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-15-204.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.204])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id LAA02935 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:07:35 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 10:58:42 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7425.2112.1747196680@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <yam7422.437.4320080@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: GUI?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 28-Apr-98, Andy Kellett wrote:
>The first thing which immediately strikes me for being odd, is why you are

Ya, I snapped the code when I was trying something else. I am closing screen
1. But it never gets there.

>Also, are you opening a wrong type of screen? For example, my machine boots
>in PAL, and the gui extension only allows me to open PAL screens.

That may be the problem.

> Top open
>an NTSC screen, i have to boot in PAL.

You mean NTSC? Q8-{)

>Pietro told me he fixed this little niggle, but I haven't seen the library
>yet.

Neither have I. Nor any info on the Tcp commands that I have not used yet.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  1 15:41:31 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  1 15:41:30 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12220
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:41:30 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24091
	for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:05:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24088
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:05:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27821
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:05:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ip010.pool-05.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip010.pool-05.flashnet.it [194.247.161.138])
	by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA21218
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 21:05:55 +0200
Date: 01 May 98 19:00:33 +0100
From: "Michele Berionne" <berionne@flashnet.it>
Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
To: "Amos List" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <6i8c5n$7b0$1@eldritch.dyn.ml.org>
Message-ID: <814.425T1685T11404802@flashnet.it>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi there!

>>>Amos Pro *2* ?  Doesn't exist, presume you mean just Amos Pro.
>>Are you sure about that? When I load it up, its a totally different
>>interface to Amos 1.35 (that I used to use when they gave it free on
>>Amiga Format). It gives me the message 
>>'Amos Professional Version 2.00

 > I think Amos Professional started with version 2.0 (version 1.x just
 > being called Amos).  No-one actually calls it "Amos Pro 2".

No. You're wrong. Amos and Amos Pro are different things.
So, Amos Pro 2 exists and it's version 2 of Amos Pro.

Bye


    berionne@flashnet.it                       >>Flagger<<
  +---------------------------------------------------------------+
  |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.   |
  +---------------------------------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  1 16:11:59 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  1 16:11:59 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17808
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:11:58 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23988
	for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:03:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23985
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:03:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.20])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28347
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:03:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from enterprise.net (nobody@max01-028.enterprise.net [194.72.197.28])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02785
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 20:03:39 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
Reply-To: andrewcrowe@enterprise.net
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 21:03:35 -0000
Message-ID: <yam7425.1782.271884904@mail.enterprise.net>
In-Reply-To: <01bd7532$25e01920$0ac548c2@fpgcsxhi>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: Manta Soft
Subject: Re: Speed! - Real speed regulation!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 


>Hello all,
>I'm currently trying to figure out how to creat an AMOS game which 
>will run at a decent spped on all Amigas.  I currently have an A2000 
>with an old 68000 7MHz cpu so my programs run quite slow, but the 
>speed is adiquite.  If, however, I try to run the game on an '030 or 
>'060 the game play is far too fast.  Is there any way around this?  
>Basically how do I slow down games on faster processors and still 
>retain the speed needed on slower ones?


Hi,

  Here is a method of speed control that I have developed.

 It keeps speed to 100% nomatter what the fraim rate.




DO

 Timer=0

  <Put ALL screen drawing and bob drawing routines here>
        eg. drawing the player on screen

 Wait vbl

 T=Timer

 <Check Joystic/Keyboard here>

 For A=1 to T

   <Put all movement and maths routines here >
          eg. making the player move 

  
   Rem  If this bit takes more then a vbl to run, then there
         will be some slowdown, but not much.

 Next



Loop


 the variable T is always how many VBL's the screen drawing has taken.



See ya.




-- 
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                ,aNNN               |
|  a&   NL                 ,a,                 ,gNNNNN               |
|  @7L d 0   ,a,,aw ,a,,  JN Q,  ,a,,aw,,,,  ,gNM"`NN'               |
| J  9w"  K N" "" NN"""""WF  ~3&N" "" N   ""^N"    NF                |
| N , " , Nd ,@M, NN JML @ML d@N ,@4, N       ',  JK                 |
|d JMc dN  N  NN  NN 0 1 1J1 0 0  NN  N         L,K                  |
|N,N 0w' Na@h,,a,,NQ,0 &J1J&,0  \,,a,,N         JF                   |
| ""  "  ~"  ""~"""~"" ""  """  t""~"""        j"1                   |
|                               F             JgmJ        ,gm        |
|                               F            N"  N  ,,    F ,N gNN   |
|      Andrew Crowe             Q          jJF  mP p""9w,NL NwmP 0mw |
|      ~~~~~~~~~~~~             ]         / I  0 F@ am, Nw  ,0&   ,N |
|       Manta Soft             ,F\      a' ,N  Nf L E 0 0ML N""N 0"  |
|       ~~~~~~~~~~            ,N  \,  ,P N@"  JF  & `@" NJL N  N 0   |
|                            ,N     ad"   \wam"   `Nx,aN JNmN  NmN   |
|                            NN ,,gN" ""PP"                          |
|                           dNNNNN"                                  |
|                           NNN@"      Web Designing and          // |
| Visit our Web Site:       ""               Amiga Programming \\//  |
|                                                                    |
|     HTTP://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/                     |
|                                                                    |
+----------------------------+      This signature was created using |
| andrewcrowe@enterprise.net |         AsciiArt Studio               |
+----------------------------+---------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  1 18:28:36 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  1 18:28:35 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06936
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:28:34 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01276
	for amos-out; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:24:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01273
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:24:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00656
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:24:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.200])
	by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07598;
	Sat, 2 May 1998 00:20:07 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-1c-1-19.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.144.84]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA16831; Sat, 2 May 1998 00:20:05 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk
To: Ben Hutchings <worc0223@sable.ox.ac.uk>,
        Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 00:11:11 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7426.592.142989176@vip.cybercity.dk>
In-Reply-To: <6i8c5n$7b0$1@eldritch.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Re[2]: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi Ben!

Den 30-Apr-98 skrev Ben Hutchings:


BH> >>> I don't own an Amiga, but I used to be a big fan. Recently I
downloaded
BH> >>> Amos Pro 2 off Lazarus, 
BH> >> 
BH> >> Amos Pro *2* ?  Doesn't exist, presume you mean just Amos Pro.
BH> > Are you sure about that? When I load it up, its a totally different
BH> > interface to Amos 1.35 (that I used to use when they gave it free on
BH> > Amiga Format). It gives me the message 
BH> > 'Amos Professional Version 2.00
BH> >      by Francois Lionet
BH> > Copyright 1992 Europress Software'
BH> 
BH> I think Amos Professional started with version 2.0 (version 1.x just
BH> being called Amos).  No-one actually calls it "Amos Pro 2".

Then you are wrong, AmosPRO started with v1.0 and short after a v1.12
update was released as pd, then there came an v2.0 upgrade witch was
PayWare and followed the AmosPRO compiler, that was the short storie ;).

-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective
stories.
-- Arthur C. Clarke



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  2 12:48:27 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  2 12:48:24 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12992
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:48:22 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04984
	for amos-out; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:45:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04981
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16984
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:44:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p53-puffback-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.68.233])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAA29251 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>;
          Sat, 2 May 1998 15:44:23 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 2 May 98 14:02:24 +0100
Subject: Re: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
Message-Id: <354B2770.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7426.592.142989176@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196
Status: O
X-Status: 

> Then you are wrong, AmosPRO started with v1.0 and short after a v1.12
> update was released as pd, then there came an v2.0 upgrade witch was
> PayWare and followed the AmosPRO compiler, that was the short storie ;).

Hell. This seems like a weird arguement.
What I think is that there was AMOS Pro 1.0 then a couple of updates
and then an update that reoriganised the way extensions worked and
then they called in V2.0
Basically it didn't look any different, it just worked internally a
little different and seen as there was no major differences people
just tend to call it AMOS Pro rather than AMOS Pro 2.

So you are all right! Just depends on how precise you are being.

-Murray

--

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would
be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  2 10:22:51 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  2 10:22:49 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21178
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:22:47 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04763
	for amos-out; Sat, 2 May 1998 09:56:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04760
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 09:56:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-32-98.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.134.98])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16719
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 09:55:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-08-113.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.113])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id JAA07355 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 09:54:53 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 09:54:43 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7426.2180.1747253560@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: GUI Fixed
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Thanks to all for the suggestions. Mush had it right - if I opened a PAL
screen, it worked. (My amiga is a PAL amiga but I run it in NTSC here in
Canada.) But I've got the updated lib from Pietro and it does fix the bug so I
can now open NTSC screens with no errors.

On a different not, the SCSI controller is in stock finally and I will be
getting it within the next week or so. CBATNAM is going to be back in
production! Now, how about the 12 tunes and all the anims and pics that I was
promised?
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  2 12:18:38 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  2 12:18:37 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26853
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:18:36 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05024
	for amos-out; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:25:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05021
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20275
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:25:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (root@midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12])
	by haven.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00762
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (15273@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA11915 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:24:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from localhost (sdmatott@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA06075 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 11:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: sdmatott owned process doing -bs
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@midway.uchicago.edu>
X-Sender: sdmatott@harper.uchicago.edu
To: Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: Speed! - Real speed regulation!
In-Reply-To: <yam7425.1782.271884904@mail.enterprise.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980502111907.4854A-100000@harper.uchicago.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

	Hey guys,
	What's wrong with just a wait vbl at the end
	of all your code? I stick a wait vbl command
	right after my screen drawing routines and then
	this sets the speed of my game at no faster than
	60 fps (or 50 in PAL) 
	I have an A3000 '030 25 and an old A500 000 8
	and things ussualy run great on both machines, if
	ocassionally a little slow on the 500 (depending upon
	how lax my coding has been ;) 

	That long T=Timer business seems to me like it would
	artificailly slow your game down, why?  Unless you 
	are in the gunning for less than 60 fps.

			Thanks,
				Scott Matott sXe


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  2 15:26:27 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  2 15:26:25 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00292
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:26:22 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06092
	for amos-out; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:42:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06089
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:42:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19576
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:42:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 3388 invoked from network); 2 May 1998 17:44:21 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.82)
  by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 2 May 1998 17:44:21 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 14:41:09 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7426.489.4353808@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <354B2770.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re[2]: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Alastair

>> Then you are wrong, AmosPRO started with v1.0 and short after a v1.12
>> update was released as pd, then there came an v2.0 upgrade witch was
>> PayWare and followed the AmosPRO compiler, that was the short storie ;).

> Hell. This seems like a weird arguement.
> What I think is that there was AMOS Pro 1.0 then a couple of updates
> and then an update that reoriganised the way extensions worked and
> then they called in V2.0
> Basically it didn't look any different, it just worked internally a
> little different and seen as there was no major differences people
> just tend to call it AMOS Pro rather than AMOS Pro 2.

> So you are all right! Just depends on how precise you are being.

Here's my 2 cents worth:

AMOSPro V1.1 was the original which went on sale
AMOSPro V1.11 was the Amiga Format, slightly crippled version
AMOSPro V2 never went on sale, as it was an update which came only with the
        compiler.
AMOSPro V3 - Who knows....

Regards

Mush
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 01:18:04 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 01:18:02 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22487
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:18:00 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA08465
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:24:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08462
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:24:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17740
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:24:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.202])
	by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA29398;
	Sun, 3 May 1998 07:23:55 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-2-3.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.100]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id HAA21902; Sun, 3 May 1998 07:23:25 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>,
        Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:49:37 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7426.1869.142954192@vip.cybercity.dk>
In-Reply-To: <354B2770.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Re[2]: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id BAA08463
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Hi Alastair!

Den 02-Maj-98 skrev Alastair Murray:

AM> > Then you are wrong, AmosPRO started with v1.0 and short after a v1.12
AM> > update was released as pd, then there came an v2.0 upgrade witch was
AM> > PayWare and followed the AmosPRO compiler, that was the short storie ;).
AM> 
AM> Hell. This seems like a weird arguement.

That's no argument, and weird !?!?!?!?, what exactly did you not understand???
I'm only telling about the versions, and nothing else.

A guy claims that there is NO v2.00, and that is NOT truth, that's why I'm
saying he's wrong about that part.

AM> What I think is that there was AMOS Pro 1.0 then a couple of updates
AM> and then an update that reoriganised the way extensions worked and
AM> then they called in V2.0
AM> Basically it didn't look any different, it just worked internally a
AM> little different and seen as there was no major differences people
AM> just tend to call it AMOS Pro rather than AMOS Pro 2.

>From the start, there was a guy who said that he has got AmosPro2, then
another guy claimed that no such thing exists, and that's wrong, I'm calling
it AmosPRO and every one else does, but it's still v2.xx that is the latest.

No matter how little or much diffrence there is from v1.00 to v2.00 the
versions still exists ;).

So short answer to ?, YES AmosPRO v2.0 EXISTS.


*------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
The *ONLY* reason for my intrusion in this tread, was that I'm sick of seeing
things like, one guy ask a question about AmosPRO2, and then a wise *** pops
up
and claims that no such thing exists, he should try to help the guy instead.
*------------------------------------------------------------------------------*

 
AM> So you are all right! Just depends on how precise you are being.

Great, now I'm happy ;)

Let's spare the bandwith, and stop this tread before it grows to noice.


Excuse my poor english, it's not my native language.
-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge
block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look
like an elephant.



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  2 18:28:52 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  2 18:28:51 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24809
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:28:50 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08016
	for amos-out; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:02:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08013
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:02:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.20])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21411
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:02:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from enterprise.net (nobody@max01-050.enterprise.net [194.72.197.50])
	by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05057
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 2 May 1998 23:02:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
Reply-To: andrewcrowe@enterprise.net
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:02:12 -0000
Message-ID: <yam7427.630.272209896@mail.enterprise.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980502111907.4854A-100000@harper.uchicago.edu>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: Manta Soft
Subject: Re: Speed! - Real speed regulation!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

>Hey guys,
>What's wrong with just a wait vbl at the end
>of all your code? I stick a wait vbl command
>right after my screen drawing routines and then
>this sets the speed of my game at no faster than
>60 fps (or 50 in PAL) 
>I have an A3000 '030 25 and an old A500 000 8
>and things ussualy run great on both machines, if
>ocassionally a little slow on the 500 (depending upon
>how lax my coding has been ;) 

>That long T=Timer business seems to me like it would
>artificailly slow your game down, why?  Unless you 
>are in the gunning for less than 60 fps.

>Thanks,
>Scott Matott sXe


  If you make a game which isn't very CPU intensive, then you don't
need any kind of sync because it would run at full speed anyway,
 but if you have a lot of big bobs and lots of gfx update every fraim, 
then the game can be too slow on older amigas, while too fast on the 
top of the range amigas.

My system works by taking how many VBLs the gfx updates take, and then
running through the control code that many times eg.

If the game is running at full speed (1 vbl per update) then it would
move the player 1 step at a time .

If the game then slowed down to 1/4 speed (4 vbl per udpate) then the
player would be moved 4 steps at once, making move at the same speed,
if a little jirky.

It wouldn't slow the game down in any way, it would just make sure
that if the game did slow down, it wouldn't slow down the gameplay.


  If you like I can write an example to explane it better :)




-- 
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                ,aNNN               |
|  a&   NL                 ,a,                 ,gNNNNN               |
|  @7L d 0   ,a,,aw ,a,,  JN Q,  ,a,,aw,,,,  ,gNM"`NN'               |
| J  9w"  K N" "" NN"""""WF  ~3&N" "" N   ""^N"    NF                |
| N , " , Nd ,@M, NN JML @ML d@N ,@4, N       ',  JK                 |
|d JMc dN  N  NN  NN 0 1 1J1 0 0  NN  N         L,K                  |
|N,N 0w' Na@h,,a,,NQ,0 &J1J&,0  \,,a,,N         JF                   |
| ""  "  ~"  ""~"""~"" ""  """  t""~"""        j"1                   |
|                               F             JgmJ        ,gm        |
|                               F            N"  N  ,,    F ,N gNN   |
|      Andrew Crowe             Q          jJF  mP p""9w,NL NwmP 0mw |
|      ~~~~~~~~~~~~             ]         / I  0 F@ am, Nw  ,0&   ,N |
|       Manta Soft             ,F\      a' ,N  Nf L E 0 0ML N""N 0"  |
|       ~~~~~~~~~~            ,N  \,  ,P N@"  JF  & `@" NJL N  N 0   |
|                            ,N     ad"   \wam"   `Nx,aN JNmN  NmN   |
|                            NN ,,gN" ""PP"                          |
|                           dNNNNN"                                  |
|                           NNN@"      Web Designing and          // |
| Visit our Web Site:       ""               Amiga Programming \\//  |
|                                                                    |
|     HTTP://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/                     |
|                                                                    |
+----------------------------+      This signature was created using |
| andrewcrowe@enterprise.net |         AsciiArt Studio               |
+----------------------------+---------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 02:38:12 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 02:38:12 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28707
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:38:11 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08483
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:09:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08480
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:09:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00346
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:09:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201])
	by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA05063;
	Sun, 3 May 1998 08:08:49 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-18-1-22.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.143.87]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA23234; Sun, 3 May 1998 08:08:19 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>, Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 08:04:42 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7427.2114.142786384@vip.cybercity.dk>
In-Reply-To: <yam7426.489.4353808@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Re[3]: AMOS-Compiling to Executable??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id CAA08481
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi Andy!

02-Maj-98 wrote Andy Kellett:


AK> > So you are all right! Just depends on how precise you are being.
AK> 
AK> Here's my 2 cents worth:
AK> 
AK> AMOSPro V1.1 was the original which went on sale

I had to find my old original's and I've got v1.00 :).

name:         size:     date:       time:      Version:
AMOSPro       113.516   04-Okt-92   18:26:12   1.00
amos.library   38.488   04-Okt-92   18:25:44   1.00

AK> AMOSPro V1.11 was the Amiga Format, slightly crippled version

Never seen this one, but heard alot about it.

You missed v1.12 ;), it was an update that was released to the PD, as they
used to do, but it was the last PD release.

Here is a text that I found on my v2.00 update disk.
name:                  size:     date:       time:
About_AMOSPro_Update   7.917     19-Jun-93   23:04:42
--- CUT ---

                      AMOS Professional V2.00 Updater

                         Written by François Lionet

                  Copyright İ 1993 Europress Software Ltd.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    This disc is NOT public domain, it is part of a commercial product:
               The AMOSPro Compiler. It cannot be sold alone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------


This  disc  contains  the latest version of AMOSPro, V2.0.  AMOSPro has been
through a major re-writing process which has modified its internal structure
tremendously.  For example, you will see that the "AMOSPro" file is now only
twenty Kilobytes long!

-> Inserted by me on

> Alastair Murray wrote.
> Basically it didn't look any different, it just worked internally a
> little different and seen as there was no major differences people
> just tend to call it AMOS Pro rather than AMOS Pro 2.

Murray, I disagree with you, after reading this txt.

-> Inserted by me off

You  can find all the documentation about this new version by selecting the
option  "Lastest  News"  from the Editor's "Help" menu of the newly updated
AMOSPro.

If you're updating from AMOSPro V1.00, you have missed AMOSPro V1.12, so you
will  also find in the help menu all the information about the modifications
between AMOSPro V1.00 and V1.12.

--- CUT ---

AK> AMOSPro V2 never went on sale, as it was an update which came only with
the
AK>         compiler.

No, you are right, I've got mine with the compiler to.


Then there is some ppl, talking about a v2.01 or 2.02, and that is not
Pietro's
updateded versions, but I've never seen them, does anybody know what diffrens
there was made in these versions, not pietro's, but the other 2.01/2.02, if
they
exists.


AK> AMOSPro V3 - Who knows....

hello Pietro, you promissed me a final 3.0 by the end of this month, nono
just kidding ;).


I'm off this tread, sorry for the noice.

-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain.
-- Lily Tomlin



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 02:23:26 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 02:23:25 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07840
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:23:25 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08492
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:24:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08489
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:24:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23132
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 02:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr02.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.202])
	by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23749;
	Sun, 3 May 1998 08:22:58 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-18-1-3.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.143.68]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA23645; Sun, 3 May 1998 08:22:57 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>,
        Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 08:20:57 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7427.2890.139720160@vip.cybercity.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Just a little note.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Hi Murray!

--- CUT from update doc. ---
This  disc  contains  the latest version of AMOSPro, V2.0.  AMOSPro has been
through a major re-writing process which has modified its internal structure
tremendously.  For example, you will see that the "AMOSPro" file is now only
twenty Kilobytes long!
--- CUT from update.doc. ---

-> Inserted by me on

> Alastair Murray wrote.
> Basically it didn't look any different, it just worked internally a
> little different and seen as there was no major differences people
> just tend to call it AMOS Pro rather than AMOS Pro 2.

-> Inserted by me off

Murray, I disagree with you, after reading this txt, not in the name part, but
in the diffrence from 1.0 to 2.0.

Sorry I had to write this letter 8).

-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice.
-- James P. Hogan



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 16:01:47 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 16:01:45 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01709
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 16:01:36 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10319
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10314
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18110
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 25878 invoked from network); 3 May 1998 17:39:52 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.129)
  by 204.249.184.7 with SMTP; 3 May 1998 17:39:52 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 14:09:44 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7427.2204.3215640@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam178.520.2014235072@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: GUI & Stuff
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Morten

> 1. I have made my Gui file in GadtoolsBox and saved it with the save 
>   command without crunching it.
>   Then i go into AmosPro and start GuiConvert from my user screen, and
>   klick's on the Gui file i joust saved in GadToolsBox, but nothing
happens 
>   exept that the requester pops up again asking for a Gui file.
>   What's wrong????????

Make sure that it's saved from the Project menu, and not saved as w indow
etc. Also check that your version of GadToolsBox is correct in the docs.

> 2. I read some place in the Guide for Gui Extension that there was a
seperate 
>   doc for the TCP commands, where can i get this Doc??? And is there a doc
>   that explains the usage of how to for eksample check if a button on
>   your Gui file has been klicked on???

The documentation for the TCP commands in in the archive available from my
homepages.

> 3. Well this one is a bit hard for me to explain, but how do i go abouth 
>   making a bar show up over a text when the mouse is over a Zone, but
>   the text must be over the bar.
>   If you have read some Diskmags you will have seen that most of them 
>   have a bar that shows up under the article name when you move the mouse 
>   over a article name, this is what i want.

Read your documentation on the " Gui Help" command. Dead simple. Does it
all for you.

Regards

Mush
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 15:19:13 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 15:19:12 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28567
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 15:19:11 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10322
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10317
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21006
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:40:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 25893 invoked from network); 3 May 1998 17:39:54 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.129)
  by 204.249.184.7 with SMTP; 3 May 1998 17:39:54 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 14:11:44 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7427.2242.3215640@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam178.2497.2013864872@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: Using the printer
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Morten

> Here is a question that i forgot to include in my last mail.

> I want a option to print the article you are reading in my diskmag to the
> Printer.

> Here is a bit of my code for putting the text file into a mem bank for 
> displaying the text in the diskmag.


> CODE$="I'am not gonna tell you"
> Open In 1,F$ : SIZE=Lof(1) : Close 1
> Reserve As Work 10,SIZE
> Bload F$,10
> Mem Unscramble 10,CODE$

> After this i have a unscrambled version of the text file in bank 10,
> what i now want to do is to print the text file i have in bank 10 to
> the printer.

> After trying some of the commands i tryed Printer out Start(10),Length(10)
> and i thought that should work, but all i got on paper was some garbage,
> What's the right way for doing this???

Use something like:

Open out 1,"PRT:"
Print #1,"Text for Printer"
Close 1

You can also use PAR: which uses the user's printer settings, if I remember
corretly.

Regards

Mush
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May  3 18:09:16 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May  3 18:09:15 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28697
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:09:14 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11883
	for amos-out; Sun, 3 May 1998 17:43:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11880
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 17:43:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18029
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 17:43:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 8233 invoked from network); 3 May 1998 21:43:06 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 3 May 1998 21:43:06 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.30]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA76840
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:43:04 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 23:43:06 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7427.319.1748602000@post8.tele.dk>
In-Reply-To: <yam7427.2242.3215640@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: Re[2]: Using the printer
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id RAA11881
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 03-Maj-98, Andy Kellett smashed the keyboard with:
>> Here is a question that i forgot to include in my last mail.
> 
>> I want a option to print the article you are reading in my diskmag to the
>> Printer.
> 
>> Here is a bit of my code for putting the text file into a mem bank for 
>> displaying the text in the diskmag.
> 
> 
>> CODE$="I'am not gonna tell you"
>> Open In 1,F$ : SIZE=Lof(1) : Close 1
>> Reserve As Work 10,SIZE
>> Bload F$,10
>> Mem Unscramble 10,CODE$
> 
>> After this i have a unscrambled version of the text file in bank 10,
>> what i now want to do is to print the text file i have in bank 10 to
>> the printer.
> 
>> After trying some of the commands i tryed Printer out Start(10),Length(10)
>> and i thought that should work, but all i got on paper was some garbage,
>> What's the right way for doing this???
> 
> Use something like:
> 
> Open out 1,"PRT:"
> Print #1,"Text for Printer"
> Close 1
> 
> You can also use PAR: which uses the user's printer settings, if I remember
> corretly.

No it don't.. "PAR:" is a direct dump/input with parallel port, that way you're
sure to get in trouble with special chars like ö, ĉ, ĝ, ċ. etc..

Use "PRT:" always to dump text...
-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May  4 17:19:42 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May  4 17:19:41 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14385
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:19:41 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23966
	for amos-out; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:35:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23963
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login-2.eunet.no (login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07153
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:35:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc26.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.26]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id VAA16221 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:34:54 +0200 (CEST)
From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1978 04:30:12 +0500
Message-ID: <yam180.635.2015354688@smtp.eunet.no>
In-Reply-To: <yam7427.2204.3215640@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: GUI & Stuff 2
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 03-May-98, Andy Kellett wrote:
>Hello Morten

>> 1. I have made my Gui file in GadtoolsBox and saved it with the save 
>>   command without crunching it.
>>   Then i go into AmosPro and start GuiConvert from my user screen, and
>>   klick's on the Gui file i joust saved in GadToolsBox, but nothing
>happens 
>>   exept that the requester pops up again asking for a Gui file.
>>   What's wrong????????

>Make sure that it's saved from the Project menu, and not saved as w indow
>etc. Also check that your version of GadToolsBox is correct in the docs.

Sorry, but i still have the same problem.
I use GadToolsBox v 37.121 (13.05.92) and in the preferences menu under
project i have nothing selected.

Then i make my gui and saves it with the Save as fuction in the Project 
menu and then the file is named what i want and .g at the end not .gui

When i try to convert the gui i joust made, the requester joust pops up 
again asking for a gui file, but i selected a gui file and it doesent work.
I've tryed to rename the file to .gui but that dident help at all.

Anybody able to help me with this????

PLEEEEZZ


Morten Bolstad


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May  4 19:02:02 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May  4 19:02:01 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17494
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:02:00 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06595
	for amos-out; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:57:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06587
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:57:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00932
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:31:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-10-199.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.199])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA04601 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:20:55 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:03:37 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7427.1860.1745780240@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: More GUI questions
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

I want to open a window with sliders to display a text file. I don't want to
put the file into an array and use listview, so is there a way to do that with
GUI, or will I have to write my own slider routines?
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May  4 18:15:46 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May  4 18:15:46 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02737
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:15:46 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23331
	for amos-out; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:22:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23328
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:22:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29711
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:19:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-12-95.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.95])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id PAA05852 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:17:55 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:13:46 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7428.2332.1745920280@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: GUI Groans
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Is there an easier way to get accurate gui button images than the image
grabber? If I draw a bunch of 56X16 buttons, is there a way to tell the
program where they are rather than trying to fiddle about with the mouse and
ending up with incomplete borders?

Is the img file just a bob bank? That would be easier, since the bob editor
has some tools for getting exactly the graphics you want.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May  4 20:03:47 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May  4 20:03:47 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06391
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:03:47 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11085
	for amos-out; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11082
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25084
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:28:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 20413 invoked from network); 4 May 1998 23:27:47 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@205.246.86.117)
  by 204.249.184.7 with SMTP; 4 May 1998 23:27:47 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 20:15:01 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7428.55.5347664@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7427.1860.1745780240@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: More GUI questions
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Mr.

> I want to open a window with sliders to display a text file. I don't want
to
> put the file into an array and use listview, so is there a way to do that
with
> GUI, or will I have to write my own slider routines?
> 

You could use a regular window/bevel box, and manually type the text lines
in there, using a vertical slider to work out the lines etc.

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May  4 21:13:03 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May  4 21:13:03 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24676
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:13:02 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA11316
	for amos-out; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11313
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:22:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10875
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:22:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.200])
	by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA09122
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:17:03 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-1c-1-7.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.144.72]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id DAA19361 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:17:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 03:14:40 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7429.2029.139695072@vip.cybercity.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Where doe's this come from???
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id VAA11314
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Hi!

I've just discovered that I have installed a AGA-extension, when, I do not
remember, but proberbly sometime in 1995, so it's long time ago, but can
anybody, PLEASE!! tell me what the name of the archive is, and where it may
have come from, because I can't remember where and when I got it.

AmosPro slot #20
Name:  AMOSPro_AGA.lib
Size:  9.872
Date:  21-Aug-95

When I use the show loaded extensions in AmosPro:
AMOSPro AGA Extension İ '95 N.Critten v1.00 Build 312 Dedicated to Kim

And when I dump the version info:
AMOSPro AGA Extension İ '95 N.Critten v1.00 Build 312
This program is Dedicated to Kim

Thanx in advance

-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge
block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look
like an elephant.



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May  5 10:47:04 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May  5 10:47:04 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17289
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:47:03 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18274
	for amos-out; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18271
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09737
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-10-217.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.217])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id JAA07783 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:57:56 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:32:32 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7429.1617.1747270176@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <yam7428.55.5347664@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: More GUI questions
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 04-May-98, Andy Kellett wrote:
>> I want to open a window with sliders to display a text file. I don't want
>You could use a regular window/bevel box, and manually type the text lines
>in there, using a vertical slider to work out the lines etc.

I had hoped to avoid doing all that programming for it. Q8-{)

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May  5 11:21:28 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May  5 11:21:28 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18105
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:21:27 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18347
	for amos-out; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18344
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:00:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13385
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:00:12 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-10-217.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.217])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id JAA07830 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:59:25 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:56:02 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7429.139.1747270176@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <00019757.eval@modusmedia.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Sequential Files - Problem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 05-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>        I am having a problem with sequential files where I cannot load all 
>     of the information from the file into memory. 
>        When I try to reload this file back into memory it only seems to 
>     load the first record in the file.

Believe it or not, there is a funky new bug with the gui environment. It
sometimes munches for/next loops. I've had the same troubles. In one case, I
actually had to go back to a=a+1: if a<12 then loop to get the data loaded.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May  5 08:28:26 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May  5 08:28:26 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16210
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:28:25 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14202
	for amos-out; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:16:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14199
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:16:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26365
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:16:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA134
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 06:21:59 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00019757; Tue, 5 May 98 06:13:20 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:08:00 -0600
Message-ID: <00019757.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Sequential Files - Problem
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: O
X-Status: 

     
     Greetings,
     
        I am having a problem with sequential files where I cannot load all 
     of the information from the file into memory.  I have included the 
     source for both the Load and Save routines below.
     
        After I save to file I have looked into the file via a hex reader 
     and all of the correct information is there.
     
        When I try to reload this file back into memory it only seems to 
     load the first record in the file.
     
        Any help you could give would be much appreciated.
     
     Declan.
     
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     
     Procedure _SAVE
     
     FILE$=Gui Asl$("Save file as....","Midi_Companion:","","#?.MC1")
     If FILE$="" Then Gui Beep : Pop Proc
     Open Out 1,FILE$
     
     For N=1 To 16
     
     Print#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N),_MIDI_CH(N),_BANK(N),_PRESET(N),_PAN(N),  
     _VOLUME(N),_CUTOFF(N),_RESONANCE(N),_RX(N),RX_OFF$(N),RX_ON$(N)
     
     Next N
     
     Close 1
     
     End Proc
     
     Procedure _LOAD
     
     FILE$=Gui Asl$("Load a file....","Midi_Companion:","","#?.MC1")
     If FILE$="" Then Gui Beep : Pop Proc
     Open In 1,FILE$
     
     For N=1 To 16
     
     Input#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N),_MIDI_CH(N),_BANK(N),_PRESET(N),_PAN(N), 
     _VOLUME(N),_CUTOFF(N),_RESONANCE(N),_RX(N),RX_OFF$(N),RX_ON$(N)
     
     Next N
     
     Close 1
     
     End Proc
     
     

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May  5 19:02:02 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May  5 19:02:02 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01100
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:02:01 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27376
	for amos-out; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:05:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27373
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:05:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10650
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:05:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr00.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.200])
	by cicero0.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA09013
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:02:35 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk)
Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (bbl1118@msx-04-1-19.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.138.84]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA10703 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:02:27 +0200 (CEST)
From: Palle Anker Larsen <p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
Reply-To: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 22:37:22 +0200
Message-ID: <yam7429.1130.141303952@vip.cybercity.dk>
In-Reply-To: <yam7429.543.1748785016@post8.tele.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: skodsoft
Subject: Re[2]: Where doe's this come from???
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id SAA27374
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi Jens

Den 05-Maj-98 skrev Jens Vang Petersen:


JVP> > When I use the show loaded extensions in AmosPro:
JVP> > AMOSPro AGA Extension İ '95 N.Critten v1.00 Build 312 Dedicated to Kim

I think Critten was involved in some other extensions, but I can't remember
which.

JVP> This might be a long-shot, but I remember that there once was a faked-AGA
JVP> extension out there. It claimed to provide full AGA-support for AMOS Pro,
JVP> but actualy it was a quite nasty virus-installer. It might be that one 

Nope it is no fake/virus but just some bad extension of a kind.

JVP> you've found there.. Have you any ideas on the included commands, if not
JVP> then maybe you could send me the lib, and I could try and hunt it down..

It's on the way, check you'r mail ;).


-- 
Best Wishes
         Palle (BALLS) Larsen
 
        _\|/_
        (6_6)                                        
  ----oOO(_)OOo--------------------------------------------
  | A4K.CS060II.CV64/4.CSCSI-II.cd*4.EZ135.HD+4GB.98MBram |
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  | E-Mail: p.larsen@vip.cybercity.dk                     |
  | H-Page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bbl1118            |
  ---------------------------------------------------------

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-- Albert Einstein



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 01:13:17 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 01:13:17 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12675
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:13:17 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA05027
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:10:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05024
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:10:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mago.agonet.it (mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07352
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:10:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126070.agonet.it [195.32.126.70])
	by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28956
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 06:05:53 +0200
From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it
To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 07:01:18 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7430.906.1747053504@mail.agonet.it>
In-Reply-To: <yam7429.139.1747270176@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Dairymen Soft
Subject: Re[2]: Sequential Files - Problem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Mr.

On 05-Mag-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote: Re: Sequential Files - Problem

> On 05-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>>        I am having a problem with sequential files where I cannot load all 
>>     of the information from the file into memory. 
>>        When I try to reload this file back into memory it only seems to 
>>     load the first record in the file.
> 
> Believe it or not, there is a funky new bug with the gui environment. It
> sometimes munches for/next loops. I've had the same troubles. In one case, I
> actually had to go back to a=a+1: if a<12 then loop to get the data loaded.

Oh my God... this is quite impossible.... let me another example.


-- 


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
   |            Team AMIGA                          \/// 18MB - CD4x    |
   |                                                                    |
   | Amos Professional Team Coordinator               AMIGA RULEZ!!     |
   |                                                                    |
   +--------------------------------------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 03:18:10 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 03:18:09 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13824
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:18:09 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05884
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05881
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:33:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17163
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:33:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA144
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:38:59 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00026F5F; Wed, 6 May 98 01:31:56 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 08:29:52 -0600
Message-ID: <00026F5F.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Re[3]: Sequential Files - Problem
To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>, Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: O
X-Status: 

     
     Is the a=a+1 a quick fix that I could use or am I at a total loss 
     until the bug has been fixed?


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re[2]: Sequential Files - Problem
Author:  Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it> at Internet
Date:    06/05/98 07:01


Hello Mr.
     
On 05-Mag-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote: Re: Sequential Files - Problem
     
> On 05-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>>        I am having a problem with sequential files where I cannot load all 
>>     of the information from the file into memory. 
>>        When I try to reload this file back into memory it only seems to 
>>     load the first record in the file.
> 
> Believe it or not, there is a funky new bug with the gui environment. It
> sometimes munches for/next loops. I've had the same troubles. In one case, I 
> actually had to go back to a=a+1: if a<12 then loop to get the data loaded.
     
Oh my God... this is quite impossible.... let me another example.
     
     
-- 
     
     
Bye!
     
     
                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+ 
   |                                                                    | 
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   | 
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   | 
   |            Team AMIGA                          \/// 18MB - CD4x    | 
   |                                                                    | 
   | Amos Professional Team Coordinator               AMIGA RULEZ!!     | 
   |                                                                    | 
   +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
     

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 10:45:44 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 10:45:44 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21004
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:45:43 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14822
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:25:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14819
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:25:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03647
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:24:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-10-233.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.233])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA11504 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:24:13 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:18:04 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7430.244.1745918136@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <00026F5F.eval@modusmedia.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Re[3]: Sequential Files - Problem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 06-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote: 
>     Is the a=a+1 a quick fix that I could use or am I at a total loss 
>     until the bug has been fixed?

As far as I know. 

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 14:20:23 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 14:20:23 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19598
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:20:22 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22622
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:07:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22617
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03483
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:07:20 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 7974 invoked from network); 6 May 1998 17:07:18 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 6 May 1998 17:07:18 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.7]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA45648
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:07:13 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:45:54 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7430.2736.1748785280@post8.tele.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: Mysterious AGA-extension
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id NAA22620
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello,

I assume you've all read the question from Palle on that (almost) unknown
AGA extension. To round it up, it's a library of 9.872 bytes, with a very
simple name: "AMOSPro_AGA.Lib", it should proberly rule slot 20.. The lib
identifies itselve as: "AMOSPro AGA Extension İ '95 N.Critten v1.00 Build 
312 Dedicated to Kim"...

Anyway, Palle was so nice to send me the lib, and I hunted it down with a
little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.. The result is 
a complete list of all syntaxes for commands in the lib, I'me including it
here in the hope it'll make somebody say "aha - I know this." so we can
shine some light on this thing..

Command list for "AMOSPro_AGA.lib"
aga ink I
aga ink I,I
aga ink I,I,I
aga screen open I
aga screen copy I to I
aga screen copy I,I,I,I,I to I,I,I
aga get palette I
aga colour I,I,I,I
I=aga colour(I)
aga box I,I to I,I
aga bar I,I to I,I
aga text I,I,S$
aga cls 
aga cls I
aga get block I,I,I,I,I
aga get block I,I,I,I,I,I
aga put block I,I,I
aga screen close I
aga screen I
aga load bitplanes I to I
aga draw mode I
aga sprite mode I
aga get bank palette I
aga clip I
aga del block I
aga spack I to I
aga unpack I to I
aga front screen I
aga use font S$,I,I
I=aga point(I,I)

-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  System going down at 5 pm to install scheduler bug.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 19:16:28 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 19:16:28 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13553
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:16:28 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07119
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:32:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07115
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:32:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from geocities.com (mail7.geocities.com [209.1.224.27])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02695
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:32:48 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from acer200 (1Cust202.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net [208.254.16.202])
	by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08086;
	Wed, 6 May 1998 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <002601bd7936$8f3bd5a0$ca10fed0@acer200>
Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
To: "Amos Mail Post" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Cc: "Mr. Giark to You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>,
        "Andrew Kellett" <mushypd@redrose.net>
Subject: More happenings.
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 15:52:16 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="x-user-defined"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4
Status: O
X-Status: 

Wie gehts?

As some may have noticed, I have been on or not sent any mail to the List
for the past few weeks (almost a month now). The reason for this is that
I'm about to move (state-to-state) and have been making preparations for
this (which included an additional trip down to my destination and looking
into getting a house). We now have a house (remember I'm living with the
folks since I'm still in school, eek!) and all the final paperwork for
everything is being done. I'll be moving the end of this wonderful month
(May) and will be off for about a week afterwards until I get moved in
and set back up. I am back now for a bit, and will be until about May 23rd.

Now you have a small updated piece of personal information from me :) I
thought I would respond to one more thing (regarding CBATNAM, Giark) :|

> On a different not, the SCSI controller is in stock finally
> and I will be getting it within the next week or so. CBATNAM
> is going to be back in production! Now, how about the 12
> tunes and all the anims and pics that I was promised?

Well, as much as I would love to have some GOOD news for you, I don't. As
I've said (here's an excuse) I've been busy, finishing studies for this
year and getting ready to move (which means I've barely had any time for
any computer-related activites at all). I understand that you wanted the
game finished for this month, but I can almost assure you that my level
will NOT be entirely finished by the end of the month. You have my go-
ahead to release the game with the addtional tunes and pics if you want
(and without my level), but you'll have to come up with some other ending.

That should do it. One thing: I have been working on my website (continual
testing on the beta-site too), with new graphics (smaller! ahem, Mush)
and more user-friendly layout. All this should be finished soon. :)

For those who want to know, I'm moving from Oklahoma to Texas.
(Not very far, so get out your maps and locate these if you want).

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft
Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!)



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 18:43:19 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 18:43:18 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10258
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:43:18 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06239
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:18:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06232
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:18:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19095
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pm1-36.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-36.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.100])
	by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA29533
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:17:29 +0200 (MET DST)
Date: 06 May 98 23:00:10 +0100
From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Mysterious AGA-extension
To: "Jens Vang Petersen" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7430.2736.1748785280@post8.tele.dk>
Message-ID: <943.430T504T13802913@bahnhof.se>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8
X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor
X-Misc-info: Who's reading this??
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Jens Vang Petersen (top_cat@post8.tele.dk) wrote:

>Anyway, Palle was so nice to send me the lib, and I hunted it down with a
>little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.

Can that one be found somewhere? I would like a utility to let me see what commands
there are in some extensions I have. I have one called TokenList.AMOS or something
like that which was a part of the Craft extension but for some reason it's very
buggy nowadays (somethings I only get a cursor at the top, other times it can't
recognise the name of the extensions).

---
What we don't like, we destroy. Reptal brains with lethal toys. Don't be concerned,
don't bother at all. Amuse yourself with phenobarbitals. At the age of 80 in my
rockingchair, I don't wanna think I didn't dare.
---
Error in reality.sys. Reboot universe (y/n)?


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 19:08:52 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 19:08:52 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12918
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:08:52 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07333
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:41:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07330
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:41:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [194.119.130.9])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAB04326
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 16:41:38 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from bexley.u-net.com [194.119.166.76] 
	by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2)
	id 0yXC1W-0003VK-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:46:46 +0100
Date: 06 May 98 22:37:45 +0000
From: "David Smith" <dsmith@bexley.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Sequential Files - Problem
To: "Amos-list" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <00019757.eval@modusmedia.com>
Message-ID: <1652.430T2261T13574576@bexley.u-net.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Declan, on 05-May-98 you said:

>      Greetings,

>         I am having a problem with sequential files where I cannot load all 
>      of the information from the file into memory.  I have included the 
>      source for both the Load and Save routines below.

>         After I save to file I have looked into the file via a hex reader 
>      and all of the correct information is there.

>         When I try to reload this file back into memory it only seems to 
>      load the first record in the file.

>         Any help you could give would be much appreciated.

>      Declan.

>      ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>      Procedure _SAVE

>      FILE$=Gui Asl$("Save file as....","Midi_Companion:","","#?.MC1")
>      If FILE$="" Then Gui Beep : Pop Proc
>      Open Out 1,FILE$

>      For N=1 To 16

>      Print#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N),_MIDI_CH(N),_BANK(N),_PRESET(N),_PAN(N),  
>      _VOLUME(N),_CUTOFF(N),_RESONANCE(N),_RX(N),RX_OFF$(N),RX_ON$(N)

>      Next N

>      Close 1

>      End Proc

>      Procedure _LOAD

>      FILE$=Gui Asl$("Load a file....","Midi_Companion:","","#?.MC1")
>      If FILE$="" Then Gui Beep : Pop Proc
>      Open In 1,FILE$

>      For N=1 To 16

>      Input#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N),_MIDI_CH(N),_BANK(N),_PRESET(N),_PAN(N), 
>      _VOLUME(N),_CUTOFF(N),_RESONANCE(N),_RX(N),RX_OFF$(N),RX_ON$(N)

>      Next N

>      Close 1

>      End Proc


When I save a sequential file I place the ";" character between all the
variables, plus a Chr$(13).

(Eg. Print#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N);Chr$(13);_MIDI_CH(N);Chr$(13);_BANK(N); ...etc)

That works for me.

David Smith


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 19:12:52 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 19:12:51 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25890
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:12:51 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08589
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:14:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08586
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:14:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05250
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 8554 invoked from network); 6 May 1998 22:13:40 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@205.246.86.60)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 6 May 1998 22:13:40 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 19:13:03 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7430.189.3219552@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7430.2736.1748785280@post8.tele.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: Mysterious AGA-extension
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Jens

> Anyway, Palle was so nice to send me the lib, and I hunted it down with a
> little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.. The result is 
> a complete list of all syntaxes for commands in the lib, I'me including it
> here in the hope it'll make somebody say "aha - I know this." so we can
> shine some light on this thing..

I have an AGA extension here in the F1 collection, i'll check it out in a
minute

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May  6 19:30:48 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May  6 19:30:48 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14950
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:30:48 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08355
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:48:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08352
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03793
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 18:48:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from (agasinc.demon.co.uk) [193.237.4.98] 
	by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2)
	id 0yXCyu-00011w-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:48:08 +0100
From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
To: Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:45:16 -0000
Message-ID: <yam7430.825.2016983752@post.demon.co.uk>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: AGAS Productions
Subject: Amos Library???
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hiya all,

I'm  a bit puzzled now as I have a few versions of the amos.library on
my hd!!!

What I wanna know is which is the best one to use?

I only want the one which fixed the 3.1 interlace bug.

Which one was it?

Here is the sizes and info I can remember...


amos.library - size 46948 (recompiled by Pietro - nothing else)

amos.library - size 47044 (not got a clue what this one was!!!)

amos.library - size 47216 (again, no clue as to what this is!!)

I  don't  even  seem  to have a backup of my original Amos.Library, so
what  size  was  that?  I  guess  it's also 46948 if the recompiled is
anything to go by!

Did this recompiled library fix the interlace bug with 3.1?

Wasn't there a library recently which allowed screens to be promoted?

And  wasn't  there  also a library which did nothing, but give a blank
screen when you tried to load Amos?

So many questions and I have no answers :(   HELP!!!

Can  someone  help  me here? I'm not sure which one to use as they all
seem to work fine for now!

I  can't check for 3.1 bug coz I only use 3.0 ya see, so I really need
to know which one to use, if ya see what i mean?

Feel free to email me your amos.library which works with the interlace
3.1 bug and which is still 100% stable in all other areas. Either that
or tell me some info on the above ones I have if poss.

Pietro?  How  about  shoving a Ver$ in the library from now on so that
Amos Pro reports which version it is using?

Now that would help a lot :-)

Tarra for now everyone and TIA.

Andy

-- 
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk
web  : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 01:07:02 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 01:07:01 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09435
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 01:07:01 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10398
	for amos-out; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:45:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10395
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:45:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03556
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 15119 invoked from network); 7 May 1998 02:44:34 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.7.250.106)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 7 May 1998 02:44:34 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:43:54 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7430.2714.3050384@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: AMOSPro_AGA.Lib - Found!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

I looked in the F1 AGA disk, and discovered that it is in fact this. The
title has now been removed from sale for over 2 months, as it was crap and
the author couldn't be bothered to update it to bring it to modern
standards.

Mush


                    Amos AGA Extension (Build V.312)

             AGA Extension Code Copyright '95 - Nigel Critten
             AGA Extension All Copyrights '95 - Michael Prince
          AGA Extension Distribution Copyright '95 - Formerly Joe Jenkins

Exclusive Worldwide distribution rights now F1 Licenceware as of Oct 26 1995


    Any bug reports to be reported to the following - 
    Telephone - (After 8.30pm) Michael Prince 01332 273679
    Letter - Michael Prince,5 Hall Park Close,Littleover,Derby,DE23 6GZ

 Disclaimer - All the above take no responsibility for any damage or loss to
 software or hardware which may occur if you use this extension.You do so at
 your own risk.

 Please Note -
 This extension is LicenceWare and may not be distributed by anyone other
 than F1 Licenceware and their official distributers.

 If you are installing the AMOS Pro version you'll have to manually enter
 the extension name into the extension list at number 20.
 Even though most graphic functions in this extension are slightly faster
 than their 32 colour counterparts you can get a 15% speed increase if you
 use AMOS Classic 1.35/1.36.e

 Installing The AGA Extension For AMOSPro -
 1) Goto the Config menu.
 2) Load the Interpreter.
 3) Load the Default Configuration.
 4) Click on Set Loaded Extensions.
 5) Type in at line 20 (excluding speech marks) "AMOSPro_AGA.Lib".

 Due to the way Amos works Sprites,Bobs and Mouse related commands may react
 in a corrupting way on screen. Future versions will take care of this.


 Bugs Fixed From Build V.251 -
 1) Sprites had a bad habit of appearing at random.

 2) AMOS patched so you can now use the Change Mouse command with AGA
 screens.

 3) RAW Image data can now be held in Fast Memory and copied straight to the
 screen from there.

 4) Screencopy and Blocks were known to misbehave if they went off the
 screen anywhere, sanity checking has been put in to clip these and they
 should behave themselves from now on (I hope!).

 5) If you quit out of a program that held a AGA screen open and used the
 Default comand to get your system back to normal (which is the only offical
 way of doing it) then the next time you ran the program the AGA screens
 wouldn't open and you were left with a normal AMOS screen.This was due to
 not clearing a flag that told the system that the screens were open.


 Bugs Fixed and Extra Commands From Build V.269 -

 1) Extension fixed to work with both AMOSPro and on a CD32.

 2) AGA Screen command added.

 3) AGA Front Screen command added.

 4) Second version of the AGA Colour command added.

 5) AGA Use Font command added.

 6) AGA Spack (Picture packer) command added.

 7) AGA Unpack (Picture unpacker) command added.

 8) AGA Sprite Mode command added.

 9) AGA Text command now supports clipping.

10) AGA Screenopen command now bug free.


 AGA Extension Commands Supported -

 AGA Screen Open

 Synopsis - AGA Screen

Mush
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 07:26:31 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 07:26:30 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12656
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 07:26:30 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12530
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:17:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12527
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:17:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailhost.utu.fi (mailhost.utu.fi [130.232.1.5])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05325
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:17:51 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <22787-672> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:17:49 +0300
Date: 	Thu, 7 May 1998 13:17:48 +0300 (EET DST)
Sender: samali@utu.fi
From: Sasu Lintula <samali@utu.fi>
To: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
cc: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: Mysterious AGA-extension
In-Reply-To: <yam7430.2736.1748785280@post8.tele.dk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980507131544.12428A-100000@alya.utu.fi>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Status: O
X-Status: 


> Hello,
> 
> I assume you've all read the question from Palle on that (almost) unknown
> AGA extension. To round it up, it's a library of 9.872 bytes, with a very
> simple name: "AMOSPro_AGA.Lib", it should proberly rule slot 20.. The lib
> identifies itselve as: "AMOSPro AGA Extension İ '95 N.Critten v1.00 Build 
> 312 Dedicated to Kim"...
> 
> Anyway, Palle was so nice to send me the lib, and I hunted it down with a
> little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.. The result is 
> a complete list of all syntaxes for commands in the lib, I'me including it
> here in the hope it'll make somebody say "aha - I know this." so we can
> shine some light on this thing..
> 
> Command list for "AMOSPro_AGA.lib"
> aga ink I
> aga ink I,I
> aga ink I,I,I
> aga screen open I
> aga screen copy I to I
> aga screen copy I,I,I,I,I to I,I,I
> aga get palette I
> aga colour I,I,I,I
> I=aga colour(I)
> aga box I,I to I,I
> aga bar I,I to I,I
> aga text I,I,S$
> aga cls 
> aga cls I
> aga get block I,I,I,I,I
> aga get block I,I,I,I,I,I
> aga put block I,I,I
> aga screen close I
> aga screen I
> aga load bitplanes I to I
> aga draw mode I
> aga sprite mode I
> aga get bank palette I
> aga clip I
> aga del block I
> aga spack I to I
> aga unpack I to I
> aga front screen I
> aga use font S$,I,I
> I=aga point(I,I)
> 
> -- 
> A load of kind regards from
>     _________________________________      _________________________________
>    /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
>    \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
>      /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
>     /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
>    /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
>    \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
>  Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
>  The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
>  The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   System going down at 5 pm to install scheduler bug.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

Does these commands mean that it IS a real aga-extension?

SLin   
    
     




From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 07:40:52 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 07:40:52 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16842
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 07:40:51 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12581
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12578
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:49:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailhost.utu.fi (mailhost.utu.fi [130.232.1.5])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04780
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:49:32 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from samali@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#15066@localhost")) by mailhost.utu.fi with SMTP id <22816-671>; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:49:15 +0300
Date: 	Thu, 7 May 1998 13:48:06 +0300 (EET DST)
Sender: samali@utu.fi
From: Sasu Lintula <samali@utu.fi>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Whatta heck!
Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980507133308.12428C-100000@alya.utu.fi>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
X-Status: 

I uploaded my program to aminet but it was deleted because it contained
illegal material. Here's a list of stuff I send with my program, could you
say which one is not legal to upload.

dpaint.font
dpaint 5 & 8
more 
assign
loadwb
mathtrans.library
dikfont.library

thanks in advance,

SLin   
    
     




From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 09:34:32 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 09:34:31 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08682
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:34:31 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15503
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:16:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15500
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20666
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:16:48 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 19848 invoked from network); 7 May 1998 12:16:04 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.206)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 7 May 1998 12:16:03 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Sasu Lintula <samali@utu.fi>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:15:26 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7431.1325.5684560@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980507133308.12428C-100000@alya.utu.fi>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Hello Sasu

> I uploaded my program to aminet but it was deleted because it contained
> illegal material. Here's a list of stuff I send with my program, could you
> say which one is not legal to upload.

> dpaint.font
> dpaint 5 & 8
> more 
> assign
> loadwb
> mathtrans.library
> dikfont.library

Diskfont and mathtrans libraries are copyrighted, thats why the upload was
stopped.

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 12:58:24 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 12:58:24 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08366
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:58:23 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19578
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19575
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08612
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:24:27 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 23021 invoked from network); 7 May 1998 14:24:20 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 7 May 1998 14:24:20 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.23]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA42860;
          Thu, 7 May 1998 16:24:18 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: Jonas Thorell <jonasth@bahnhof.se>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 15:34:53 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7431.2680.1748794632@post8.tele.dk>
In-Reply-To: <943.430T504T13802913@bahnhof.se>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: Re[2]: Mysterious AGA-extension
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA19576
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Jonas

On 06-Maj-98, Jonas Thorell smashed the keyboard with:
>> Anyway, Palle was so nice to send me the lib, and I hunted it down with a
>> little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.
> 
> Can that one be found somewhere? I would like a utility to let me see what commands
> there are in some extensions I have. I have one called TokenList.AMOS or something
> like that which was a part of the Craft extension but for some reason it's very
> buggy nowadays (somethings I only get a cursor at the top, other times it can't
> recognise the name of the extensions).

To get it, ask me to mail it ;-)
-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  If a program is useful, it must be changed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 12:34:29 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 12:34:27 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00859
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:34:27 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19561
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19558
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06242
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:24:01 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-05-225.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.225])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA15223 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:23:22 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:59:15 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7431.763.1747004296@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <002601bd7936$8f3bd5a0$ca10fed0@acer200>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: More happenings.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 06-May-98, Adam Parrott wrote:
>thought I would respond to one more thing (regarding CBATNAM, Giark) :|
>>CBATNAM
>> is going to be back in production! Now, how about the 12
>> tunes and all the anims and pics that I was promised?
>game finished for this month, but I can almost assure you that my level
>will NOT be entirely finished by the end of the month. You have my go-
>ahead to release the game with the addtional tunes and pics if you want
>(and without my level), but you'll have to come up with some other ending.

I'd like to see ANY of the tunes and graphics; ya, that would be nice. Get on
the ball, you lot. My SCSI controller will be here by next Wednesday, at which
point I will be finishing up the first alpha release of the final game. I'm
only going to add one level at a time to make sure it all remains compatible.

Get out your egos, dust them off, and prepare to have them trashed. My
hardware troubles were my excuse. What is the excuse for the rest of you?
Q8-{)

I need the tunes and graphics.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 10:45:22 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 10:45:21 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26628
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:45:21 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18785
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:10:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18782
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03020
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:10:52 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from pm1-28.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-28.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.92])
	by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA13287
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 16:10:25 +0200 (MET DST)
Date: 07 May 98 16:00:07 +0100
From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
To: "Sasu Lintula" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980507133308.12428C-100000@alya.utu.fi>
Message-ID: <990.431T371T9602968@bahnhof.se>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8
X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor
X-Misc-info: Who's reading this??
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Sasu Lintula (samali@utu.fi) wrote:

>I uploaded my program to aminet but it was deleted because it contained
>illegal material. Here's a list of stuff I send with my program, could you
>say which one is not legal to upload.

>dpaint.font
>dpaint 5 & 8
>more 
>assign
>loadwb
>mathtrans.library
>dikfont.library

Not a thing is legal to upload. And apart from the fonts, there's no need to
upload it either since everyone already have them.

The last one is in the ROM from 2.04 upwards anyway...I don't know which AMOS
version you're using but there is a Assign command built into AmosPro.

---
What we don't like, we destroy. Reptal brains with lethal toys. Don't be concerned,
don't bother at all. Amuse yourself with phenobarbitals. At the age of 80 in my
rockingchair, I don't wanna think I didn't dare.
---
DIPLOMACY: The art of letting somebody have your way.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 11:56:14 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 11:56:14 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15779
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:56:13 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19552
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19549
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08625
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:24:00 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-05-225.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.225])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA15227 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:23:46 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 10:02:21 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7431.1078.1747004296@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <943.430T504T13802913@bahnhof.se>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Mysterious AGA-extension
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 06-May-98, Jonas Thorell wrote:
>>little syntax-finder utility I have written some time ago.
>Can that one be found somewhere?

You can find one on Mush's site.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 11:32:15 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 11:32:14 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09010
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:32:14 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19671
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19666
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07518
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:28:29 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-05-225.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.225])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA15289 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:04 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 10:20:36 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7431.1809.1747004296@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <00028CE5.eval@modusmedia.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Delay......
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 07-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>     If I wanted to have a delay of 40 ms within my program.  How would I 
>     go about doing it?

Wait 40 isn't doing the job?

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 12:12:24 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 12:12:24 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19413
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:12:23 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19684
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19678
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-10-242.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.242])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09619
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:28:49 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-05-225.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.225])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA15298 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:28:31 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 10:22:06 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7431.348.1747004296@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SV4.3.96.980507133308.12428C-100000@alya.utu.fi>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 07-May-98, Sasu Lintula wrote:
>say which one is not legal to upload.
>dpaint.font
>dpaint 5 & 8

Copyright to EA and deluxePaint

>more 
>assign
>loadwb
>mathtrans.library
>dikfont.library

Copyright to Commodore and whoever owns Amiga this week.

>thanks in advance,

Easy enough.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 06:35:54 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 06:35:54 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09697
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:35:53 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12539
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:20:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12536
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02961
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:20:00 -0500 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp1.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.82])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA123
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 04:24:32 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp1.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 00028CE5; Thu, 7 May 98 04:17:15 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:13:23 -0600
Message-ID: <00028CE5.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Delay......
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: O
X-Status: 

     
     If I wanted to have a delay of 40 ms within my program.  How would I 
     go about doing it?
     
     To be more specific I need to receive strings from the serial port and 
     there is a delay of 40 ms between each string.  Without a delay I am 
     getting an overflow.
     
     Any help or advice would be appreciated.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 18:48:49 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 18:48:49 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05591
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 18:48:49 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06639
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:47:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06636
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail.netwave.net (mail.netwave.net [207.112.132.11])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19717
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 16:47:29 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from pppsrs92.netwave.net (pppsrs92.netwave.net [209.100.37.92])
	by mail.netwave.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27160;
	Thu, 7 May 1998 16:05:17 -0500
Date: 07 May 98 16:24:24 -0500
From: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>
Subject: Re: More happenings.
To: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
In-Reply-To: <002601bd7936$8f3bd5a0$ca10fed0@acer200>
Message-ID: <327.431T1213T9843146@netwave.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Cc: amos-list@access.digex.net
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Adam Parrott digitized on 06-May-98 15:52:16:

 AP> For those who want to know, I'm moving from Oklahoma to Texas.
 AP> (Not very far, so get out your maps and locate these if you
 AP> want).

Moving near San Antonio?


 - Rand

"Ah, the children of the night - what music they make." - Dracula


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 22:16:47 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 22:16:47 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25681
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:16:47 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09754
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:23:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09751
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20208
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:23:08 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from acer200 (1Cust4.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net [208.254.16.4])
	by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01414;
	Thu, 7 May 1998 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <005101bd7a28$4852ac20$0410fed0@acer200>
Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
To: "Rand R. Fredricksen" <rand@mail.netwave.net>
Cc: "Amos Mail Post" <amos-list@access.digex.net>,
        "Ken Axsom" <kaxsom@comsoltx.com>
Subject: Re: More happenings.
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:45:30 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4
Status: O
X-Status: 

Just to Rand (Fredricksen) and Ken: No, I won't be near San Antonio (other
side of the state), I'll be in the Dallas/Fort Worth area (the town of
Trophy Club to be more specific). Thanks for the welcome though. L8r.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft
Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!)


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  8 08:26:53 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  8 08:26:52 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09714
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:26:52 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10559
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10556
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA26015
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:27:19 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 3451 invoked from network); 8 May 1998 10:25:35 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO lp4-14.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.83.174)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 8 May 1998 10:25:35 -0000
Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga)
	id AA00y5q; Fri, 8 May 98 01:22:20 GMT
Message-Id: <9805080122.AA00y5p@mushypd.desupernet.net>
Reply-To: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net>
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 01:22:20
X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net)
X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program
X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients
X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of
X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net
X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer
X-Format: 114/305=63432018+7304P
From: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net> (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: MPD: F1 + Mushroom PD cat now available in paper form
Status: O
X-Status: 

A paper catalogue of the entire F1 Software USA and also the Mushroom PD
collection is now available. These include a complete list of all of our
titles, including the F1 Gold, and the Paul Burkey titles which I
distribute here on his behalf.

A copy of this 14+ page catalogue is available in the USA simply by mailing
a $1 bill to me, to the below address. If you would like a binded copy
(placed in a black folder, with the side punched and a ring-binder style
binding) then send $4. If you send a cheque, please make it payable to
Mushroom Software:

Mushroom Software
75 North Perry Street
Elizabethtown
PA 17022-1146
USA

Tel. (717) 367 6210
Email: mushypd@redrose.net

--
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  8 10:04:11 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  8 10:04:11 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28477
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:04:10 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10605
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:40:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10602
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:40:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27091
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:40:44 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 7580 invoked from network); 8 May 1998 10:40:01 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO lp4-14.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@205.246.83.174)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 8 May 1998 10:40:01 -0000
Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga)
	id AA00zc3; Fri, 8 May 98 01:34:34 GMT
Message-Id: <9805080134.AA00zc2@mushypd.desupernet.net>
Reply-To: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net>
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 01:34:33
X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net)
X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program
X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients
X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of
X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net
X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer
X-Format: 114/305=64134627+7609P
From: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net> (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: MPD Announce: F1 Software USA Pages updated!
Status: O
X-Status: 

The F1 Software pages have been updated, and a brand new version of the
catalogue id now available for download. Also available from the page, is a
list of titles written by Paul Burkey, author of the upcoming smash hit
Foundation, which are now available in the USA for a lot less than
purchasing from UK.

Ive also removed the huge table of existing F1 titles, and replaced it with
a much smaller one of current F1 demo titles, which you can download and
try before you buy.

Just to remind you, the URL for the F1 USA page is 
http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/f1software/ and from there, you will find
links to all the related info, including the list of Paul's titles. The
Mushroom PD FTP site is as always mushy-pd.dyn.ml.org and if you log in as
anonymous, you should be OK. To get to the F1 demo's, go to /pub/f1/ and
for the 5th dimension demo programs, /pub/ware5d/

For those who might already have an idea of the titles that they wish to
look at, this list is of all the demo titles which are currently on my FTP
site and available for download:

        Arcade Darts (F1-139)
        Ballunacy (F1-130)
        Boris Ball (F1-133)
        Dark Citadel (F1-151)
        DMC Gold (F1 Gold)
        Erik (F1-048)
        Grafix (F1 Gold)
        Guitar Fret Master (F1-132)
        JWindows 
        Keith's Quest (F1-145)
        Legions of Dawn (F1-085 and F1-086)
        Obstickle (F1-076)
        Outfall (F1-141)
        Pitch N Putt (F1-135)
        Prototype (F1-157)
        Pucman (F1-146)
        Q:Whizz! (F1-140)
        Relics of Deldroneye 2 (F1-124)
        Scavenger 2 (F1-152)
        Sorefist (F1-150)
        Starboy (F1-154)
        Stereop Jr. (F1-153)
        Teeny Weeny's (F1-131)
        The Experiment (F1-142)
        Ultimate Quiz (F1-065)

And Demo's of the 5th Dimension software:

        AGA Slideshow Maker
        Antz
        Black Dawn 2
        Blox
        Bouncy
        European Manager
        Gambling Games
        GCSE Physics Tutor
        Hideous
        Hilt 2
        International Golf
        Jump 'Em
        Plebs
        Rabbits
        Rotator
        Thunderdawn

Andy "Mushroom" Kellett
--
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May  7 22:36:03 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May  7 22:36:03 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27938
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:36:03 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09763
	for amos-out; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09760
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:23:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20367
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:23:45 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from acer200 (1Cust4.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net [208.254.16.4])
	by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01940;
	Thu, 7 May 1998 19:23:38 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <005601bd7a28$61fd1b60$0410fed0@acer200>
Reply-To: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@usa.net>
To: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
Cc: "Amos Mail Post" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: More happenings.
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 21:24:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="x-user-defined"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hiho. Giark did thus wrote (about CBATNAM):
> I'd like to see ANY of the tunes and graphics; ya, that would be nice.
> Get on the ball, you lot. My SCSI controller will be here by next
> Wednesday, at which point I will be finishing up the first alpha release
> of the final game. I'm only going to add one level at a time to make sure
> it all remains compatible. Get out your egos, dust them off, and prepare
> to have them trashed. My hardware troubles were my excuse. What is the
> excuse for the rest of you? >Q8-{) I need the tunes and graphics.

Well, as I said, I won't have my level entirely finished by the end of the
month, although I may have some addtional graphics for you (will have to go
back and see what else was needed). If you want to make a few beta releases
first, go ahead and I'll give you my level when it's done (sometime in
June), before you complete the whole build for the final version. :P

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@usa.net, work: parrottsoft@usa.net
Member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA. http://members.tripod.com/~parrottsoft
Webmaster and General Manager of Parrottsoft (Home of the 3D Cafe Engine!)




From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  8 03:14:16 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  8 03:14:16 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17236
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:14:15 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA10345
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:08:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10342
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:08:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10230
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:08:54 -0500 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA84
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:13:38 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001AFA7; Fri, 8 May 98 01:04:02 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:49:59 -0600
Message-ID: <0001AFA7.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Sequential Files - Problem
To: "Amos-list" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: O
X-Status: 

     >>When I save a sequential file I place the ";" character between all 
     >>the >>variables, plus a Chr$(13).
     
     >>(Eg.Print#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N);Chr$(13);_MIDI_CH(N);Chr$(13);_BANK(N)
     ; >>...etc)
     
     For those that are interested, I solved this problem by doing the 
     following.
     
     Procedure Save
     
     Print #1,Str$(_INSTRUMENT_NO(N)),Str$(_MIDI_CH(N)),....etc.
     
     End Proc
     
     
     Procedure Load
     
     Print#1,_INSTRUMENT_NO(N),_MIDI_CH(N),....etc.
     
     End Proc
     
     Very strange don't you think, considering all the choices I was given 
     by different people.  Would this be because of the GUI Extension?

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  8 07:35:26 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  8 07:35:25 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02676
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:35:25 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10510
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:41:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10507
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:41:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26776
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 05:41:39 -0500 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA125
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:52:52 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001B138; Fri, 8 May 98 03:44:22 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:30:52 -0600
Message-ID: <0001B138.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Projects
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: O
X-Status: 

     
     For those that are interested, I have a web page detailing all my AMOS 
     Pro projects, complete and WIP.  Check it out at 
     
     http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/projects.htm

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May  8 08:42:18 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May  8 08:42:18 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18968
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:42:17 -0500 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10932
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:59:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10929
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:59:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03252
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:59:26 -0500 (EDT)
Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP);
          Fri, 8 May 1998 12:49:31 +0100
Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31);
          8 May 98 12:56:33 GMT+0
Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 8 May 98 12:53:11 GMT+0
From: Lee <l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Central Lancashire
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 12:51:13 GMT+0
Subject: Theres a wasp!
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33)
Message-ID: <2EDB50BB4@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>
Status: RO
X-Status: 

I have some questions!
1. How are Amos programs stored?
2. Are they tokenised?
3. Are the bob routines using the graphics library blitter routines?
4. Whats the format of a bob .abk file, does this include the bob 
masks?

Oh how do I get on/off this list, it has probably changed since I 
joined 3 years ago.
I could just be nasty and join some more lists for when I leave 
university.
Hope someone can help.
____________________________________
Lee Atkins.
L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK

IRC nick : EMBWBAM
________________________________________
Its just a big egg pie!
And it always has been!
________________________________________

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 11 20:56:14 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 11 20:56:14 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12990
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:06:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06884
	for amos-out; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:54:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06881
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:54:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from www200.image.dk (www200.image.dk [194.234.58.146])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19919
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:54:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from zedeler.dk (rzedeler@pm51-59.image.dk [194.234.60.59])
	by www200.image.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA31960
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 8 May 1998 22:54:14 +0200
From: Rune Zedeler <rune@zedeler.dk>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 13:20:25 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7427.1288.139805240@smtp.image.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Speed! - Real speed regulation!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id QAA06882
Status: RO
X-Status: 

It seems like all of you guys love resetting the timer in the middle of oyur
programs...
This is very bad programing style and it can be coursing wrong timing.
Use:

Timer=0 : T=Timer
Do
  [Update screen here]
  Wait Vbl
  OLD_T=T
  T=Timer
  For FRAME=OLD_T to T-1
    [perform movements here]
  Next FRAME
Loop

This way the timing will be kept accurate no matter what is going on...
You kan even use the FRAME-variable in the moving of things :)

-- 

         /Ż\ __    __ /ŻŻŻŻŻ\           _         Rune Zedeler
________/ /// \\__/ \\\  ---/           \Ż-_      Peter Rĝrdams Vej 19
\      / //Ż|  \\/  ||Ż\ \\ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   Ż-_   2800 Lyngby
 )    / //  | \ ` / ||  \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet  -  Denmark
/    / ŻŻŻŻŻ\\|\-'/ /ŻŻŻŻŻ \\____________   _-Ż
ŻŻŻŻŻ\------'/||ŻŻ| \------'/           /_-Ż      rune@zedeler.dk
      ŻŻŻŻŻŻ\-'/  \-'/ŻŻŻŻŻŻ            Ż         Tel: +45-45871730
             ŻŻ    ŻŻ

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  9 12:00:03 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  9 12:00:03 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09569
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 12:00:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20801
	for amos-out; Sat, 9 May 1998 08:48:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20798
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 08:48:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from sunny.bahnhof.se (sunny.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.1])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05310
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 08:48:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pm1-46.bahnhof.se (jonasth@pm1-46.bahnhof.se [193.44.91.110])
	by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23584
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:47:39 +0200 (MET DST)
Date: 09 May 98 14:28:42 +0100
From: "Jonas Thorell" <jonasth@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Buggaboo
To: "Mr. Giark To You" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7432.1662.1745833984@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
Message-ID: <782.433T2131T8683896@bahnhof.se>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-System: Amiga 1200/030@50 Mhz, 34 Meg, 1.5 Gig HD, 28k8
X-Software: Aweb, Miami, Thor
X-Misc-info: Who's reading this??
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Mr. Giark To You (giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org) wrote:
>Well, here's another gui bug:

>If borderblank is running, GUI will not open on workbench.

Oh yes it will. I'm using the borderblank in MCP and my GUI-program I'm developing
is opening on the workbench screen without a problem.

Only problem with it is my programming...I'm having one small difficulty: how
does one set up custom tag-lists in Amos??

---
What we don't like, we destroy. Reptal brains with lethal toys. Don't be concerned,
don't bother at all. Amuse yourself with phenobarbitals. At the age of 80 in my
rockingchair, I don't wanna think I didn't dare.
---
Politicians do it to Everyone.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  9 18:07:40 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  9 18:07:39 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10417
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 18:07:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28235
	for amos-out; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:45:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28232
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:45:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26039
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:45:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by riverside.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14451
	  at Sat, 9 May 1998 15:45:18 -0500 (CDT)
	  SMTP "HELO" = students.nwc.edu
	  But _really_ from eagle.nwc.edu [199.86.79.248]
	  SMTP "MAIL FROM" = .mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu
	  SMTP "RCPT TO" = <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Received: from CEDAR/SpoolDir by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40);
    9 May 98 15:44:37 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by CEDAR (Mercury 1.40); 9 May 98 15:44:22 -0500
Received: from Unknown (199.86.79.136) by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40);
    9 May 98 15:44:13 -0500
From: "Michael Paul Ness" <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 15:44:05 +0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Subject: AMOS and equates
Priority: normal
Message-ID: <4E3F46092A@students.nwc.edu>
Status: O
X-Status: 

Ok, I just got done reading all that the manual and the doc files had 
to say about using the Equ() and Lvo() functions in AMOS.  After 
trying (and failing) for days now I resort to the list.
	Perhaps it's my ignorance of Amiga libraries or something, but I 
just cannot get any call to the graphics library to work.  One reason 
may be that I have no graphics library nor intuition library in my 
LIBS: assign, but I recall someone telling me some time ago that the 
exec, dos, graphics, and intuition libraries were all held in ROM.
	The docs on the productivity disc say that the equates and library 
vector offsets for the graphics and intution libraries are not 
included in the AMOS_Equates file.  So how then do I access these 
libraries?  What type of value does the Gfxcall() or Execcall() 
functions take?  (I tried positive, and negative intergers and 
strings--nothing works)
	Maybe I need to be educated about exectly what I'm dealing with 
here.  I have very little experience with Assembly or C because I 
find their extensive use library calls increadibly confusing.  Could 
someone educate me in this area please?  I do not what my programming 
abilities to be limited entirely by standard AMOS commands, 
especially since they are so unfriendly to the system at times.

	One more small question...how does the blitter work?  I don't mean 
to get to broad here, but since registering the AMCAF extension I 
have been tinkering with the blitter commands and I am at a loss as 
to how they really work.  I get the Blitter Clear command and I can 
even copy whole screen with these commands, but what if I want to 
copy a small section of the screen or do a little custom BOBing?  And 
what if the boundries of the section are not at word boundries?

	Sorry about all of the tech questions, but my desire to create 
better programs on the AMIGA seems to be hindered by these two basic 
concepts.  Any and all help will be greatly appriecated.

Michael Ness
mpness@eagle.nwc.edu
A proud supporter of Amiga computers everywhere!

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May  9 16:05:44 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May  9 16:05:43 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16789
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:05:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25204
	for amos-out; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25201
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:09:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19597
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:09:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 20660 invoked from network); 9 May 1998 19:09:33 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 9 May 1998 19:09:33 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.10]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA49660
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 9 May 1998 21:09:30 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:09:17 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7433.861.1748785232@post8.tele.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: BOOPSI Gadgets..
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id PAA25202
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello,

As you proberly know OS DevKit V1.59+ supports 'BOOPSI'gadgets, a very nice
thing, just one problem..

Does any of you have some docs on how to use:
'fuelgauge.gadget' and/or 'speedbar.gadget' (Taglists etc.)

Thanks in advance...
-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May 10 18:08:30 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May 10 18:08:29 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25633
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 10 May 1998 18:08:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22396
	for amos-out; Sun, 10 May 1998 16:24:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22393
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 10 May 1998 16:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAB12523
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 10 May 1998 16:24:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p46-guillemot-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.64.166])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAA6440; Sun, 10 May 1998 20:23:39 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 10 May 98 20:35:53 +0100
Subject: GUI Mouse Click
Message-Id: <35560FA9.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
To: ghizzo@agonet.it, amos-list@access.digex.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196
Status: O
X-Status: 

I've made a screen, got rid of its title bar and screen cloned it to
an AMOS screen.
I need to detect clicks on the screen and do adjustments accordingly.
I can do this fine except for one problem, if the user click where the
title bar WOULD BE, it doesn't register on Gui Wait as an event.
Is there a solution to this?

Thanks,
-Murray

--

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would
be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 11 11:46:08 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 11 11:46:08 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10608
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:46:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05034
	for amos-out; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:42:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05031
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:42:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA10884
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 07:42:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 12524 invoked by uid 1514); 11 May 1998 11:41:41 -0000
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:41:40 +0100 (IST)
From: Matt <mattw@orca.ucd.ie>
To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: For Chris re AMCAF Pt Raw Play
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980511123431.11559B-100000@orca.ucd.ie>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

Sorry - this ones for Chris but I can't find his addy.

I noticed something about the Pt Raw Play command. I loaded an Iff
sample into a chip data bank. Using code similar to that of the Sample
Bank maker it is easy to work out where the sample data is ie not the
header and other stuff. The AmosPro Sam Raw works ok with the values I
work out, but the Pt Raw Play always has a kind of click/buzz with the
same data. Even if you move the pointer well beyond the header it's
still there. Any ideas? (I have the Dec 97 AMCAF lib) BTW the reason
for all this madness is that instead of relying on .Abk banks for
samples Iff samples can be used. This makes changing/editing sigle
samples easy. 

###       ###  ########  ########### ###########
####     #### ###    ###     ###         ###
##!##   ##!## #!#    #!#     #!#         #!#
!#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@!     !@!         !@!     mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie
!!!   !   !!! !!!    !!!     !!!         !!!            x  x
:!:       :!: :!:    :!:     :!:         :!:            \__/
:::       ::: :::    :::     :::         :::  
::         :: ::     ::       :           :


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 11 11:46:25 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 11 11:46:25 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18373
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:46:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA03862
	for amos-out; Mon, 11 May 1998 03:54:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03859
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 03:54:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17186
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 03:54:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP);
          Mon, 11 May 1998 08:46:21 +0100
Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31);
          11 May 98 08:53:33 GMT+0
Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 11 May 98 08:53:06 GMT+0
From: Lee <l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Central Lancashire
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:49:12 GMT+0
Subject: Re: AMOS and equates
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33)
Message-ID: <46EF036577@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>
Status: O
X-Status: 

> included in the AMOS_Equates file.  So how then do I access these 
> libraries?  What type of value does the Gfxcall() or Execcall() 
> functions take?  (I tried positive, and negative intergers and 

They both take an offset from the library base to the function you 
require.
If your going to mess around with the library functions you need to 
get hold of the Autodocs for the libraries. And maybe some RKRM's.  
They are on the web somewhere (I cant remember the place but I 
followed a link from the Amos factory, any help anyone)
The place has all the stuff you need to download as amiga guide 
documents.

> 	One more small question...how does the blitter work?  I don't mean 

Get the stuff from the above site.
Once uve got the blitter sorted you can do all that lurverly AGA 
stuff youve been wanting to do for ages. 

 
____________________________________
Lee Atkins.
L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK

IRC nick : EMBWBAM
________________________________________
Its just a big egg pie!
And it always has been!
________________________________________

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 12 17:19:06 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 12 17:19:06 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01931
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23335
	for amos-out; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:06:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23332
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:06:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [194.119.130.9])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00788
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:06:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from bexley.u-net.com [194.119.166.76] 
	by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2)
	id 0yZJWZ-0005un-00; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:11:36 +0100
Date: 11 May 98 20:06:13 +0000
From: "David Smith" <dsmith@bexley.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: GUI Mouse Click
To: All <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <35560FA9.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <429.435T656T12063199@bexley.u-net.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Alastair Murray said:

> I've made a screen, got rid of its title bar and screen cloned it to
> an AMOS screen.
> I need to detect clicks on the screen and do adjustments accordingly.
> I can do this fine except for one problem, if the user click where the
> title bar WOULD BE, it doesn't register on Gui Wait as an event.
> Is there a solution to this?

Limit Mouse would prevent the pointer going into that area.

David Smith


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 11 20:31:31 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 11 20:31:31 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03937
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:31:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA11744
	for amos-out; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11741
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:07:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmp02.wxs.nl (mmp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAB04144
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:07:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.42.162]) by mmp02.wxs.nl
          (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52)  with SMTP id AAA1AE2;
          Mon, 11 May 1998 23:57:54 +0200
From: * de Jong * <joopdejong@wxs.nl>
Reply-To: joopdejong@wxs.nl
To: Michael Paul Ness <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:56:57 cst-2       
Message-ID: <yam7435.2857.123670184@mail.wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <4E3F46092A@students.nwc.edu>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: Joop, Marian, Mark, Bart
Subject: Re: AMOS and equates
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 09-mei-98 Michael Paul Ness wrote:

>LIBS: assign, but I recall someone telling me some time ago that the 
>exec, dos, graphics, and intuition libraries were all held in ROM.

The libs that are in ROM that I can renember from the top of my
head are: exec, dos, graphics, intuition & clist...

>The docs on the productivity disc say that the equates and library 
>vector offsets for the graphics and intution libraries are not 
>included in the AMOS_Equates file.  So how then do I access these 
>libraries?  What type of value does the Gfxcall() or Execcall() 
>functions take?  (I tried positive, and negative intergers and 
>strings--nothing works)

Negative... If I renember right something like  DUMMY=Execall(-132)
should turn off multitasking for example
(and DUMMY=Execall(-138) should turn it on again)
Variables and pointers (varptr()) are past with the dreg(x)
and areg(x) commands.

>Maybe I need to be educated about exectly what I'm dealing with 
>here.  I have very little experience with Assembly or C because I 
>find their extensive use library calls increadibly confusing.  Could 
>someone educate me in this area please?  I do not what my programming 
>abilities to be limited entirely by standard AMOS commands, 
>especially since they are so unfriendly to the system at times.

I would like to help you if you want, but since I'm also learning
ASM (but I'm probably further than you ??) I don't know if I can
help you with everything.

>One more small question...how does the blitter work?  I don't mean 
>to get to broad here, but since registering the AMCAF extension I 
>have been tinkering with the blitter commands and I am at a loss as 
>to how they really work.  I get the Blitter Clear command and I can 
>even copy whole screen with these commands, but what if I want to 
>copy a small section of the screen or do a little custom BOBing?  And 
>what if the boundries of the section are not at word boundries?

I havn't played with the blitter yet, but I do know some things about
it that I've read. But probably this isn't interesting for readers on this
list that only use AMOS.

>Sorry about all of the tech questions, but my desire to create 
>better programs on the AMIGA seems to be hindered by these two basic 
>concepts.  Any and all help will be greatly appriecated.

>Michael Ness
>mpness@eagle.nwc.edu
>A proud supporter of Amiga computers everywhere!


Mark de Jong     Member of Team*Amiga* & Team*AMOS*


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 12 12:15:32 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 12 12:15:32 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14560
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:15:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07710
	for amos-out; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:06:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07707
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:06:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (uv334@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04130
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 09:06:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from uv334@localhost)
	by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01214;
	Tue, 12 May 1998 05:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 05:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
X-Sender: uv334@vtn1
To: Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: Beta Tester needed
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980512055815.1082A-100000@vtn1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
X-Status: 

I need one beta tester with experience in playing role playing games by
Square Soft for the Super Nintendo or Playstation.  Any processor speed,
chip set, etc.  Only requirement is hard drive and fast Internet
connection to get files.  First beta test version should be done in a
month.  Thanks!

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
        John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
    http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 12 12:36:31 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 12 12:36:31 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03166
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:36:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13359
	for amos-out; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13356
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-02-95.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.95])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11845
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:38:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-12-100.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.100])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id KAA01444 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 10:37:10 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:00:09 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7436.483.1747215776@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <1159.434T1636T793885@bahnhof.se>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Buggaboo
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 09-May-98, Jonas Thorell wrote:
>>>>If borderblank is running, GUI will not open on workbench.
>Shouldn't make a difference which one you're using since they all work in
>pretty much the same way. They only set one flag that's already in the OS
>in the first place.

To all those concerned:

The borderblank I was using killed aweb, wordperfect, gui extension, etc. I
got rid of it.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 12 18:48:25 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 12 18:48:25 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26858
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 18:48:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25348
	for amos-out; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:32:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25307
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:32:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13592
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net
           id ac2027405; 12 May 98 18:22 GMT
From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
To: Jonas Thorell <jonasth@bahnhof.se>, Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:17:50 -0000
Message-ID: <yam7436.2527.2019737072@post.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <990.431T371T9602968@bahnhof.se>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: AGAS Productions
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Thursday 07-May-98
Time: 15:00:07
Name: Jonas Thorell
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
So here's a reply...

Hi there,


>Sasu Lintula (samali@utu.fi) wrote:

>>I uploaded my program to aminet but it was deleted because it contained
>>illegal material. Here's a list of stuff I send with my program, could you
>>say which one is not legal to upload.

>Not a thing is legal to upload. And apart from the fonts, there's no need to
>upload it either since everyone already have them.

>The last one is in the ROM from 2.04 upwards anyway...I don't know which AMOS
>version you're using but there is a Assign command built into AmosPro.


Erm,  sorry but Amos Pro may have Assign command but it STILL requires
Assign to be in your C directory before it'll work.

Seems silly if ya ask me and maybe Pietro could fix this too?

Surely a quick call to an internal library could assign?


Cya. Andy


-- 
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk
web  : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 14 20:37:26 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 14 20:37:26 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18621
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:37:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28445
	for amos-out; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28438
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07012
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p44-cassowary-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.58.44])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAB28910; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:31:01 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 14 May 98 23:35:42 +0100
Subject: GUI Colours
Message-Id: <355B7FCE.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
To: ghizzo@agonet.it, amos-list@access.digex.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198
Status: O
X-Status: 

I've mentioned this before but got no solution... 

Open a slider through the GUI extension and unless you're running a
program to change the gadtools like Visual Prefs or MCP, the slider
bars are invisable because they're the same colour as the rest of the
screen!

There must be solution to this!

-Murray

--

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would
be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 14 20:50:45 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 14 20:50:45 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22708
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:50:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28442
	for amos-out; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28439
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06902
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:31:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p44-cassowary-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.58.44])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAE28910 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>;
          Thu, 14 May 1998 23:31:12 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 14 May 98 23:51:19 +0100
Subject: Backbone
Message-Id: <355B8377.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198
Status: RO
X-Status: 

I'm not sure if any of you have used Backbone or not but since it has
moved onto using the GUI extension its taken off. I'm getting a fair
few more registrations and a lot more interested people in it.

Anyway I've got a mailing list going for it. Its basically used for
discussing new ideas and improvements to it as well as announcing new
versions when they appear. 

You can get it from aminet as dev/misc/Backbone2_main.Lha and
dev/misc/Backbone2_ex.Lha
The current version is v2.01 but v2.03 should be out soon which fixes
many bugs.

Anyway to join the mailing list go here:
http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray/backboneml.html
or:
http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm96m/backboneml.html

Oh and I want to create a really nice looking platform game with it to
show off seen as the examples are all a bit dull. If there's anyone
out there who can draw good GFX for a platform game and will stick
with the project until it's complete then let me know! :)

Thanks,
-Murray

--

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Man shall never reach the moon, for such a quantity of gunpowder would
be needed as to gravely injure the crew - Children's Encyclopedia 1926


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 14 22:19:18 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 14 22:19:18 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28217
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 22:19:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00913
	for amos-out; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:19:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00910
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:19:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from oznet15.ozemail.com.au (oznet15.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.121])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17678
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from archie (per1-16.space.net.au [203.38.10.238]) by oznet15.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA25509 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:19:02 +1000 (EST)
Message-ID: <355B97D3.7D5F@ozemail.com.au>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:18:11 +0800
From: "Andy H." <geosync@ozemail.com.au>
Organization: GeoSync Media
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: LIST Game
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi all,

I was just checking to see how the List Game was going. Is it ready yet?

Andy H

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 15 09:20:53 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 15 09:20:53 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23161
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 09:20:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03271
	for amos-out; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03268
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk (com1.uclan.ac.uk [193.61.255.3])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09144
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 07:44:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (PP);
          Fri, 15 May 1998 12:36:20 +0100
Received: from MAS1/MAILQ by mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31);
          15 May 98 12:43:36 GMT+0
Received: from MAILQ by MAS1 (Mercury 1.31); 15 May 98 12:40:09 GMT+0
From: Lee <l.a.atkins@uclan.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Central Lancashire
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:39:30 GMT+0
Subject: Man am I sweating (Amos.library)
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33)
Message-ID: <129D426345@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>
Status: O
X-Status: 

OK, so I was reading some article about Amos.  The only thing that is 
wrong with it (as we all know) is the lack of OS friendlyness.
Could it be possible to rewrite (if the library is shared) the Amos 
library using nice OS calls instead of just hacking your way in there 
and doing what you want.
Was there anything ever written about doing structures in Amos?

____________________________________
Lee Atkins.
L.A.ATKINS@UCLAN.AC.UK

IRC nick : EMBWBAM
________________________________________
Its just a big egg pie!
And it always has been!
________________________________________

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 15 18:53:10 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 15 18:53:10 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00561
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 18:53:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27230
	for amos-out; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:46:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27227
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:46:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mago.agonet.it (root@mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17035
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:46:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126071.agonet.it [195.32.126.71])
	by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12803;
	Fri, 15 May 1998 21:41:06 +0200
From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:11:04 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7439.210.1747659328@mail.agonet.it>
In-Reply-To: <35560FA9.MD-0.196.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Dairymen Soft
Subject: Re: GUI Mouse Click
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1747659328.1"
Status: O
X-Status: 

Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not
support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text.
To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader.


--BOUNDARY.1747659328.1
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello Alastair

On 10-Mag-98, Alastair Murray wrote: GUI Mouse Click

> I've made a screen, got rid of its title bar and screen cloned it to
> an AMOS screen.
> I need to detect clicks on the screen and do adjustments accordingly.
> I can do this fine except for one problem, if the user click where the
> title bar WOULD BE, it doesn't register on Gui Wait as an event.
> Is there a solution to this?

Yes of course ;)

Actually you don't receive a 'signal' because now there is the window title
bar where the screen title bar would be :) The perfect solution for your
problem is to open a backdrop-noborder window.

You can select the 'Backdrop' flag in the window/Edit Flag... menu of the
GadToolsBox (..or use the GUI attached here). Complete Example:

Gui Screen Open 1,640,256,4,Hires : Gui Open 1,1,20 : Gui Change 1,0,0,640,256
Gui Cls 1 : Gui Clone 1,True

et voila'! Now using Gui Wait you'll always receive the mouse clicks.

-- 


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
   |            Team AMIGA                          \/// 18MB - CD4x    |
   |                                                                    |
   | Amos Professional Team Coordinator               AMIGA RULEZ!!     |
   |                                                                    |
   +--------------------------------------------------------------------+

--BOUNDARY.1747659328.1
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="noborder.abk"
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="noborder.abk"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

QW1CawAUAAGAAAGUR3VpICAgICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA0ADQAvAC8
AAAAAAAAAAAAzAAAAAAAFgEUgAAAZAAAAACAAABlAAAAAIAAAGYAAAKAgAAAZwAAAQCAAABq
AAAAAIAAAGsAABkAgAAAbmg+wfSAAABwaBuzOIAAAHIAAABDgAAAcwAAABWAAAB0AAACgIAA
AHUAAAEAgAAAkAAAAAGAAACTAAAAAYAAAGwAAAAAgAAAbwAAAAAAAAAAAkwHfldvcmsgV2lu
ZG93AAIAAwAAAAAAAngA8wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAkwHfgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=

--BOUNDARY.1747659328.1--



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 00:08:10 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 00:08:10 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03488
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 00:08:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03515
	for amos-out; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:56:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03512
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:56:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07455
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:56:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 4973 invoked from network); 16 May 1998 02:58:02 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-21.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.149)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 16 May 1998 02:58:02 -0000
Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga)
	id AA015tz; Fri, 15 May 98 22:55:47 GMT
Date: Fri, 15 May 98 22:55:47 GMT
Message-Id: <9805152255.AA015ty@mushypd.desupernet.net>
X-Comment: 10101010
X-Comment: Generated by Mailinglist Manager V2.10
X-Comment: Written by Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett (C) July/August 1997
X-Comment: Email mushypd@redrose.net for more information
From: koda@netspace.net.au (Michael Zafiropoulos) (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: [AMOSList] GUI TCP
Status: O
X-Status: 

I have made a control connection to the ftp server but cannot open
a data connection after using the 'port' command then 'list'. 
Server always respond with 425 Can't build data connection:connection
refused. Can someone help?

--

  koda@netspace.net.au
--
Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!!

mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net  Subject: SUBSCRIBE <Email Address>

Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from
http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages
Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information!

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 15 21:38:16 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 15 21:38:16 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21744
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 21:38:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01938
	for amos-out; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:13:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01935
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:13:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13255
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:13:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agasinc.demon.co.uk ([193.237.4.98]) by post.mail.demon.net
           id ab2002642; 16 May 98 0:12 GMT
From: Andy Gibson <andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk>
To: Jonas Thorell <jonasth@bahnhof.se>, Amos List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:48:47 -0000
Message-ID: <yam7440.2353.2016438760@post.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <1503.438T1670T484271@bahnhof.se>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: AGAS Productions
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA01936
Status: O
X-Status: 

This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Wednesday 13-May-98
Time: 23:48:33
Name: Jonas Thorell
Subject: Re: Whatta heck!
So here's a reply...

Hi there,

>>But maybe that's because you have Assign set as a PURE command in your
>>startup-seuqnce or summat?

>No, I made a small check. I compiled an Amos program including only
>the assign command:
>Assign "kl:" to "ram:"
>Formatted a blank disk and made it bootable. Made the directories
>l, libs, s and c. 
>Copied l:happyenv-handler to l, amos.library to libs, and mountenv to c.
>Edited df0:s/startup-sequence so it read
>mountenv
>Copied the assign command to c and renamed it to info and finally copied
>my compiled amos program to the root of the disk. Booted with it and
>ran my program. It worked. Typing info gave me the info required so I now
>know that the assign command isn't required.

Geez!  All  this time that I have been using it thinking Amos required
it in the C Dir! DOH!

Thanx  for  that  tip. It sure is strange though why the Help function
states that it is required in the C dir though!

I'll  take your word for it seeing as you went to all the hard work of
testing.

Sorry I disbelieved you in the first place.

That'll teach me... ;ŝ

>BTW, the mountenv and happy-env handler is recommended! Can be found on
>Aminet somewhere under the name happyenv.lha. Makes the environment
>variables much more managable.

I used HappyENV before, but found some stuff didn't work well with it,
but that was a long time ago!

I may try a newer version soon. Once again ... thanx for the tips :)

-- 
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

      (aka SKiDZ/A51)

email: andy@agasinc.demon.co.uk
web  : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk

Member of Team *AMIGA*



From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 07:23:32 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 07:23:32 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09028
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 07:23:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA06317
	for amos-out; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:10:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06312
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:10:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22411
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:10:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 28501 invoked from network); 16 May 1998 10:11:46 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.158)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 16 May 1998 10:11:46 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 06:10:28 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7440.1408.4418688@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Thanks to All!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions about the ADZ problem. In the
end, I picked TransADF as it had more options than I needed  =))

Mush
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *

     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 22:11:24 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 22:11:24 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20166
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:11:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14939
	for amos-out; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:52:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14936
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from marvin.technet2000.com.au (root@marvin.technet2000.com.au [203.16.60.150])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13937
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:52:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from technet2000.com.au (Sniper@port44.qldnet.com.au [203.16.60.144])
	by marvin.technet2000.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12414
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 10:52:09 +1000
From: Jamie Bentley <sniper@technet2000.com.au>
Reply-To: sniper@technet2000.com.au
To: AMOS HELP <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1978 18:27:44 +1000
Message-ID: <yam25.2247.270794008@marvin.technet2000.com.au>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Organization: sniper productions
Subject: Veiwing AGA
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id UAA14937
Status: O
X-Status: 

 I need some help showing AGA animations (anim7/8) and possibly showing AGA images with AMOS, I'm making a game like Myst (well, not just me, a group of about 50 people), and I'm wondering if the intuition extension would be powerful enough to make a game like that.

 Of course, as for the animations, they'd have to be encoded or something, but thats way down the track. 

 Is the intuition extension good enough to do simple stuff, like loading a  picture (640x512) and making some mouse-zones (so the player can click around, move etc)

 If it can, could you please mail me and I'll get my team on it straight away.

 Jamie Bentley
 

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 10:23:27 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 10:23:27 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04426
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 10:23:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07023
	for amos-out; Sat, 16 May 1998 09:01:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07020
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 09:01:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08239
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 09:01:26 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 15917 invoked from network); 16 May 1998 13:02:37 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO lp18-30.desupernet.net) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.158)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 16 May 1998 13:02:37 -0000
Received: by mushypd.desupernet.net (V1.16/Amiga)
	id AA016d0; Sat, 16 May 98 08:49:10 GMT
Message-Id: <9805160849.AA016cz@mushypd.desupernet.net>
Reply-To: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 08:49:09
X-Mailer: MPDMailpostV2b by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net)
X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpostV2b multi-personell mailer program
X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients
X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of
X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net
X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer
X-Format: 120/311=65219457+7926P
From: Mushroom PD <mushypd@redrose.net> (Andrew "Mushroom" Kellett)
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: MPD Announce: Foundation Mailinglist Officially Open!!
Status: O
X-Status: 

The official Foundation mailinglist is now open. For all those who don't
know, ive been working closely with Paul for just over 6 months on this
project, and now the game has begun to go on sale (First copies are to be
sold at the WOA, where Paul will be attending on the Sadeness stand) it now
seems appropriate to go public with the email address.

The software used to run the mailinglist is my own, and will be available
directly from F1 Software in the next 2 months or so.

There are 2 sides of the mailinglist, a digest side, and a regular posting
side. If you subscribe to the Digest part of the list, you can still make
postings etc. and will receive one large email a day, with all the previous
day's postings compiled into an easy-to-read list for your convinience. If
you join the regular list, then you will simply receive lot's of seperate
mails. It is possible to join both of the lists if you wish.

To join the mailinglist, simply send a blank email with the subject as
SUBSCRIBE DIGEST  (if you want to join as a Digest member) or SUBSCRIBE
(on it's own will place you on the regular list) to
mushypd-foundation@redrose.net where it will be processed automatically.
Please allow for time to process your mails, especially if the list is
experiencing a lot of traffic. Digest's are compiled at Midnight EST time,
and can take as much as 2 hours to distribute it to everyone. Please be
patient.

I would also like to ask people not to make any kind of postings to the
list until they have received confirmation that they have been joined to
the list. The list is moderated by myself to ensure nothing spam-wise get's
through, and when a SUBSCRIBE/SUBSCRIBE DIGEST command comes in, an
authentication process must occur before you will be added. If you try and
post before you receive the final conformation, there is a good chance your
mail will not make it onto the list.

For those who are interested in seeing what the list is all about, you can
send a mail to the same address with the subject as FAQ and information
will be mailed to you, without placing you on the mailinglist. Note, that
the FAQ and INFO files will be majorly updated as soon as Paul returns from
WOA. Which takes us onto the next part of the message.

Paul Burkey is on the mailinglist, so please don't heckle him with lot's of
stupid questions that are already answered in the FAQ files. Paul already
receives lot's of mail about Foundation, so please give him time to read
and reply to mails.

Thank-you for your time and patience. Enjoy the game, and now enjoy the
mailinglist!

Andrew "Mush" Kellett
List Moderator
--
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
               with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 09:25:19 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 09:25:19 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14255
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 09:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06969
	for amos-out; Sat, 16 May 1998 08:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06966
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 08:08:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (uv334@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10806
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 08:08:24 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from uv334@localhost)
	by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11809;
	Sat, 16 May 1998 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
X-Sender: uv334@vtn1
To: Michael Zafiropoulos <koda@netspace.net.au>
cc: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: [AMOSList] GUI TCP
In-Reply-To: <9805152255.AA015ty@mushypd.desupernet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980516050102.9259A-100000@vtn1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

Grab a copy of BSDSocket.lha in dev/amos.  It show how to make an FTP
connection easily. 

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
        John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
    http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#

On Fri, 15 May 1998, Michael Zafiropoulos wrote:

> I have made a control connection to the ftp server but cannot open
> a data connection after using the 'port' command then 'list'. 
> Server always respond with 425 Can't build data connection:connection
> refused. Can someone help?
> 
> --
> 
>   koda@netspace.net.au
> --
> Brought to you from the AMOS Mailinglist!!
> 
> mailto: amos-request@access.digex.net  Subject: SUBSCRIBE <Email Address>
> 
> Posted via Mailinglist Manager V2.10, available soon from
> http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk - the worlds largest AMOS homepages
> Email me at mushypd@redrose.net for more information!
> 


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sat May 16 14:14:58 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sat May 16 14:14:58 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26005
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10279
	for amos-out; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10276
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cadcraft.se (root@[195.67.72.194])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15434
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from cadcraft.se (Giark@AS52-15-209.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.209])
          by cadcraft.se (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id RAA12827 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sat, 16 May 1998 17:53:57 +0200
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 12:55:47 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7440.2366.1747185832@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <355B97D3.7D5F@ozemail.com.au>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: LIST Game
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: RO
X-Status: 

On 14-May-98, Andy H. wrote:
>I was just checking to see how the List Game was going. Is it ready yet?

Well, I got my SCSI controller - it didin't work. So I have to send it back.
Luckily, there is an Amiga show in Toronto in two weeks, which I will be
attending. After that, I will either have a working scsi controller or a
bigger internal ide hard drive and the game will be rolling. Of course, as it
stands we still have no music for the game and most of the between level pics
never showed up.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May 17 13:09:57 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May 17 13:09:57 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08797
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:09:56 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27806
	for amos-out; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:12:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27802
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:12:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-14-154.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.154])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04292
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:12:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-14-197.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.197])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id GAA07255 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 06:11:31 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:13:24 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7440.1209.1748026136@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <B0000294348@mailhost.sosbbs.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: LIST Game
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 16-May-98, Garfield Benjamin wrote:
>   Incredible!!  The difficulty you have had in securing an SCSI
>   controller is absolutely rediculous.  If I remember correctly, you first
>   ordered this thing around Christmas 97 and now we're halfway
>   through May and you still do not have it (one that works)!!

And I am getting mighty annoyed about the whole thing.

>   You must be one patient man.  Good luck!!

Well, not much to be done about it. Hurray for the Amiga show in 2 weeks!

>   Hmm... what is the status of these items?  Are they simply delayed
>   or has the work completely stopped??

EJ has disappeared. He had all the music. Pics wise, all the artists seem to
have curled up and died.

>   I was under the impression that the music was already done and

Aye, but now?

>   Perhaps you can secure the original music and some of us can
>   pitch in on the conversion process.  Seems like there should be
>   some software that could automate this process for us.

That would be an idea.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May 17 13:04:16 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May 17 13:04:16 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05730
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:04:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21656
	for amos-out; Sun, 17 May 1998 09:46:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21650
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 09:46:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02423
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 09:46:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p20-oriole-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.70.200])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAC13459; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:46:20 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 17 May 98 14:42:30 +0100
Subject: Re: GUI Mouse Click
Message-Id: <355EF756.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7439.210.1747659328@mail.agonet.it>
To: ghizzo@agonet.it, amos-list@access.digex.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198
Status: O
X-Status: 

> Yes of course ;)
> 
> Actually you don't receive a 'signal' because now there is the window title
> bar where the screen title bar would be :) The perfect solution for your
> problem is to open a backdrop-noborder window.
> 
> You can select the 'Backdrop' flag in the window/Edit Flag... menu of the
> GadToolsBox (..or use the GUI attached here). Complete Example:

Thanks for the help. I've actually solved the problem in a slightly
different way. The problem with the backdrop option is that the window
has to be the full screen size and that caused me problems. Anyway, a
combination of various other options has had the same effect and works
great!

Now one other thing... detecting mouse clicks is easy but is there a
way that I do a sort of mouse key command? I need to know whether the
user is holding the mouse button down and not just clicking it.

Thanks,
-Murray

--
              Join the BACKBONE mailing list! Go to:
http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray/backboneml.html
or: http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm96m/backboneml.html

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May 17 18:40:06 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May 17 18:40:06 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01703
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:40:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13219
	for amos-out; Sun, 17 May 1998 16:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13216
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 16:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-04-190.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.190])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06887
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-08-132.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.132])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id LAA02050 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:43:08 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:42:27 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7441.1394.1747077760@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <01bd8183$37805ca0$37fb0bc3@orian.demon.nl>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: LIST Game
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 17-May-98, Maurice Hoffman wrote:
>What kind of in between level pics do you
>need, describe them and i can make them in
>lightwave or 3D studio MAX.

As soon as I get back on track, I will.

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Sun May 17 21:07:39 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Sun May 17 21:07:39 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13648
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 21:07:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA18008
	for amos-out; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:19:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18005
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:19:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from fep6.mail.ozemail.net (fep6.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.123])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09923
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:19:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from archie (per1-94.space.net.au [203.38.10.160]) by fep6.mail.ozemail.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03781 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:19:22 +1000 (EST)
Message-ID: <355F7E55.30D4@ozemail.com.au>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:18:29 +0800
From: "Andy H." <geosync@ozemail.com.au>
Organization: GeoSync Media
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: ChipNFastDales
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Hi all,

If you have 128fast mem and only 1megchip is it possible to simulate
chip ram for Amos proggies?

Andy H

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 18 11:39:46 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 18 11:39:46 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01946
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:39:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07617
	for amos-out; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:40:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07614
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:40:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-01-44.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03537
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-13-107.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.130.107])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id EAA05308 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:39:29 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:37:43 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7442.2190.1747416664@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <0001F129.eval@modusmedia.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Help with Hex
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: RO
X-Status: 

On 18-May-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com wrote:
>     40 00 00 00        31 7F 7F 7F
>     In example two, 00 00 02 00, what is the decimal equivalent and how do 
>     I calculate it?

Just shove them all together is my guess. You've seen amos code calling long
hex values, do that here.

$40000000 and $317F7F7F

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 18 07:24:12 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 18 07:24:11 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12760
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:24:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA00630
	for amos-out; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:19:11 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00627
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:19:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (firefox.modusmedia.com [208.14.214.2])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07870
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:19:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com
Received: from smtp2.modusmedia.com ([192.168.131.84])
          by mmi-mailrelay.ModusMedia.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1
          release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA179
          for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:23:36 -0600
Received: from ccMail by smtp2.modusmedia.com
  (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0001F129; Mon, 18 May 98 04:12:15 -0600
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:07:54 -0600
Message-ID: <0001F129.eval@modusmedia.com>
Subject: Help with Hex
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: cc:Mail note part
Status: RO
X-Status: 

     
     This is on topic as it involves a program I am working on.....Anyway, 
     I need some help with hex.  I understand the basics of hex ie. the 
     decimal equivalent of hex numbers up to 255.  What I am having trouble 
     with is hex numbers that include more than the usual.  I think an 
     example is called for....
     
     I am addressing some of my midi equipment and the specs say the 
     following....
     
      Address(H)          Size(H)
     -----------        -----------
     40 00 00 00        31 7F 7F 7F
     
     00 49 10 00        00 00 02 00
     
     00 40 21 50        00 00 00 01
     
     The address part is not a problem as I have figured that out.  In the 
     third example the size is 00 00 00 01 which means that it consists of 
     one value, so that is not a problem.  It is only when I see values in 
     any of the other columns that I cannot figure them out.
     
     In example two, 00 00 02 00, what is the decimal equivalent and how do 
     I calculate it?
     
     In example one 31 7F 7F 7F, what is the decimal equivalent and how do 
     I calculate it?
     
     Any help would be appreciated and I would appreciate you emailing me 
     privately.  Thanks.
     
     Declan.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 18 13:16:28 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 18 13:16:28 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03759
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:16:28 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14448
	for amos-out; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:00:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14445
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:00:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06492
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 29365 invoked from network); 18 May 1998 14:59:58 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 18 May 1998 14:59:58 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.5]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA41562;
          Mon, 18 May 1998 16:59:56 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:57:58 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7442.2930.1749004280@post8.tele.dk>
In-Reply-To: <0001F129.eval@modusmedia.com>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: Re: Help with Hex
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id LAA14446
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com

On 18-Maj-98, Declan_Gorman@modusmedia.com smashed the keyboard with:
>     This is on topic as it involves a program I am working on.....Anyway, 
>     I need some help with hex.  I understand the basics of hex ie. the 
>     decimal equivalent of hex numbers up to 255.  What I am having trouble 
>     with is hex numbers that include more than the usual.  I think an 
>     example is called for....

Right.. First a little background. HEX means 16, just like deci means 10,
I think it's either greek or latin.. Anyway they refer to the base number
of each position, always starting from the back...

a normal number folowes:

56
 +- Last pos is base 10^0=1, so value is       6*1 =50
+-- Second pos is    10^1=10, so the value is  5*10=50

Ok, for hex the base is 16, so we have a hexnumber:
$2F52
    +- PosValue= 16^0 =    1, number =  2 *    1 =    2
   +-- PosValue= 16^1 =   16, number =  5 *   16 =   80
  +--- PosValue= 16^2 =  256, number = 15 *  256 = 3840 ($F=15)
 +---- PosValue= 16^3 = 4096, number =  2 * 4096 = 8192

Then we add the ting together and get 12114 as result...


You can get amos to make the conversion:
Dec->Hex:  Print Hex$(256)    (Result=$100)
Hex->Dec:  Print Val("$100")  (Result=256)

In AMOS hexnumbers is always treated as a string with "$" as the first char..

-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  System going down at 1:45 for disk crashing.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Mon May 18 16:47:42 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Mon May 18 16:47:42 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03949
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03275
	for amos-out; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:46:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03272
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:46:48 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mago.agonet.it (root@mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08832
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:46:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126071.agonet.it [195.32.126.71])
	by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16591;
	Mon, 18 May 1998 19:40:21 +0200
From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:24:02 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7442.119.1747054464@mail.agonet.it>
In-Reply-To: <355EF756.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Dairymen Soft
Subject: Re[2]: GUI Mouse Click
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Alastair

On 17-Mag-98, Alastair Murray wrote: Re: GUI Mouse Click


> Thanks for the help. I've actually solved the problem in a slightly
> different way. The problem with the backdrop option is that the window
> has to be the full screen size and that caused me problems. Anyway, a
> combination of various other options has had the same effect and works
> great!
> 
> Now one other thing... detecting mouse clicks is easy but is there a
> way that I do a sort of mouse key command? I need to know whether the
> user is holding the mouse button down and not just clicking it.


Sure.. detect the mouse key press is easy. By default you'll receive 2 events
(-11) when you click the mouse.... the first when the user hold the mouse
button,
and the second when the button will be released. And so when you receive the
first event, consider the mouse key pressed until you'll receive the second
-11 event. You can also check the Gui Code:

Gui Code   =104    ($68)    Button Pressed
                = 232   ($E8)    Button Released
                = 105   ($69)    Right Button Pressed  (... see the Gui Rmb
command)
                = 233   ($E9)    Right Button Released 



> 
> Thanks,
> -Murray
> 
> --
>              Join the BACKBONE mailing list! Go to:
> http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray/backboneml.html
> or: http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm96m/backboneml.html
> 
> Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
>  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
> |~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
> | ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
> |  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
> |game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
> |  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
> |   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
> |  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
> | game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
Regards
-- 


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
   |            Team AMIGA                          \/// 18MB - CD4x    |
   |                                                                    |
   | Amos Professional Team Coordinator               AMIGA RULEZ!!     |
   |                                                                    |
   +--------------------------------------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 19 07:27:20 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 19 07:27:20 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03131
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20409
	for amos-out; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20406
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:39:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from asdo.se (gateway.asdo.se [194.218.132.33])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA04436
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Magnus.Sjoberg@asdo.se
Received: from asdogate.asdo.se ([194.132.65.82]) by gateway.asdo.se with ESMTP id <28682>; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:40:12 +0100
Received: by asdogate.ASDO.SE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3)
	id <K6JNPHKC>; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:40:32 +0100
Message-ID: <0C16986DE489D111860D00A024A419070E22F8@G02_STHLEX.ASDO.SE>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Array-randomizer
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:37:24 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3)
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Ok, here's something for you aces out there.

I've got an array with for example this data:
A,A,A,A,B,B,B,C,C,D,E

Now I want to randomize this array so that two equal data
won't be next to each other. I.e:
A,B,C,A,E,B,A,C,B,A,D

In cases this is impossible like when I've got the following data:
A,A,A,A,A,B,B
The output should be something like: A,A,B,A,B,A,A

Or when the data is: A,A,A,A,B
Output: A,A,B,A,A

All the datas must be randomized, even those that are equal.

Can anyone help me with this? Please???
The routine must be able to handle longer datas than one char.

If you got any additional questions E-mail me privatley.

Magnus

=================================================================
Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May 20 15:00:30 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May 20 15:00:30 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02256
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:00:29 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14078
	for amos-out; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:14:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14075
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:14:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from star.flashnet.it (star.flashnet.it [194.247.160.2])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23117
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:14:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ip022.pool-15.flashnet.it (Berionne@ip022.pool-15.flashnet.it [195.191.2.22])
	by star.flashnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA09883
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:14:27 +0200
Date: 19 May 98 22:28:36 +0100
From: "Michele Berionne" <berionne@flashnet.it>
Subject: Re: Array-randomizer
To: "Magnus.Sjoberg" <amos-list@access.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <0C16986DE489D111860D00A024A419070E22F8@G02_STHLEX.ASDO.SE>
Message-ID: <1270.443T1808T13485725@flashnet.it>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP)
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi there!

 > Ok, here's something for you aces out there.

Thank you for "ace"! :-))))

 > I've got an array with for example this data:
 > A,A,A,A,B,B,B,C,C,D,E

 > Now I want to randomize this array so that two equal data
 > won't be next to each other. I.e:
 > A,B,C,A,E,B,A,C,B,A,D

Actually what you want is NOT a rondomized array. It would be randomized if
you couldn't say if two equal datas are next to each other or not.

What you want is a different order.

I would do it in this way, even if I don't know if it's the best one.

A) Fix the first data
B) Go to the next data: if it's the same swap it with the first different
   one, otherwise do not anything.
C) Go back to B till the end.

For sure this tecnique isn't 100% sure because could happen that there's a
chance to order them as you want, but you don't get it. But at least it
should be rather fast.

 > The routine must be able to handle longer datas than one char.

Longer datas are handled easily with your own comparision.

Bye


    berionne@flashnet.it                       >>Flagger<<
  +---------------------------------------------------------------+
  |   BASIC programmers never die, they GOSUB and don't RETURN.   |
  +---------------------------------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 19 20:19:22 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 19 20:19:22 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10372
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:19:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA28407
	for amos-out; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:11:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28404
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:11:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-07-68.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.68])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14382
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:11:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-07-78.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.78])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id OAA04519 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:10:17 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:10:24 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7443.1218.1747276568@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: GUI
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

The guide file seems to be missing the button inactive command. Is it gone?
And is there a way to change button text?
 
Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Tue May 19 22:38:58 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Tue May 19 22:38:58 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13636
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:38:57 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29262
	for amos-out; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:50:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29259
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24165
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Tue, 19 May 1998 20:50:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 19047 invoked from network); 20 May 1998 01:01:34 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.230)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 20 May 1998 01:01:34 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:49:50 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7443.2514.4294592@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam7443.1218.1747276568@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: GUI
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Mr.

> The guide file seems to be missing the button inactive command. Is it
gone?
> And is there a way to change button text?
> 

If you look in the GUI SET command, there is a link to follow to making
gadgets inactive. Changing the text of a button is somethng ive been
wanting to do for ages.

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
               with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May 20 12:15:14 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May 20 12:15:14 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04738
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:15:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07559
	for amos-out; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:24:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07556
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11867
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:24:10 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 25206 invoked from network); 20 May 1998 14:24:06 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk (194.239.134.172)
  by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 20 May 1998 14:24:06 -0000
Received: from post8.tele.dk ([194.239.180.80]) by post8.tele.dk
          (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA41348;
          Wed, 20 May 1998 16:24:04 +0200
From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:12:32 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7444.1647.1747815896@post8.tele.dk>
In-Reply-To: <yam7443.2514.4294592@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Subject: Re[2]: GUI
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id KAA07557
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Andy

On 20-Maj-98, Andy Kellett smashed the keyboard with:
> If you look in the GUI SET command, there is a link to follow to making
> gadgets inactive. Changing the text of a button is somethng ive been
> wanting to do for ages.

First, changing the text in an active button is imposible, You can't even 
do it in 'C', 'ASM' or with OS DevKit.. The only way to change it is to
'remove' the button and define it once more, but the GUI can't do that
either (Not as far as I know anyway..).. For the same reason I've decided
to not use the GUI, as readers of my letters would know; I prefer to use
the OS DevKit anytime, simply becourse it's imposible to use a 'locale'
with the GUI extension... 
-- 
A load of kind regards from
    _________________________________      _________________________________
   /___   ____/  _____   /  _____   /\    /\   _______\   _____  \____   ___\
   \__/  /\__/  /\___/  /  /\___/  / /    \ \  \______/\  \___/\  \__/\  \__/
     /  / / /  / /  /  /  ________/ /      \ \  \     \ \   _____  \ \ \  \
    /  / / /  /_/__/  /  /\_______\/        \ \  \_____\_\  \___/\  \ \ \  \
   /__/ / /__________/__/ /                  \ \__________\__\  \ \__\ \ \__\
   \__\/  \__________\__\/                    \/__________/__/   \/__/  \/__/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                aka. JENS VANG PETERSEN  <top_cat@post8.tele.dk>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -++-  AMIGA  -++-  SOFTWARE  -++-  AMOS  -++-  AQUA  -++-  STAR TREK TNG  -++-
 Main Page:                                'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
 The AQUA Zone:                    'http://www.netby.net/Havnen/Lystbaade/taz/'
 The Cosmic String:       'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  This is no time to argue about time, we don't have the time...
                                                                -- Deanna Troi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Wed May 20 16:30:07 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Wed May 20 16:30:07 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02901
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:30:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17478
	for amos-out; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:28:40 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17471
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:28:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16243
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:28:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from p40-honeyeater-gui.tch.virgin.net ([194.168.120.160])
          by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2
          release (PO203-101c) ID# 1-55555U125000L125000S0) with ESMTP
          id AAA25916; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:28:30 +0000
From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
Date: 20 May 98 14:04:42 +0100
Subject: GUI Bug
Message-Id: <3562E2FA.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net, ghizzo@agonet.it
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198
Status: O
X-Status: 

I've found abug in the GUI extension.
When using scroller bars (Arrows at the end and a bar to slide
up/down) the bar part of it will only be displayed if you open the
window on the workbench screen.

If you create you own screen (however many colours) and then open the
window on it, the colour used for the bar is the same as the one used
for the background and therefore invisable.

I've only taken this long to find it because I use MCP which alters
the Gadtools look anyway and therefore allows it to look OK.

Please fix!  :)

Thanks,
-Murray

--
              Join the BACKBONE mailing list! Go to:
http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray/backboneml.html
or: http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~agm96m/backboneml.html

 Alastair  \\|//   malcolm.murray@virgin.net
  Murray   (o o)      http://freespace.virgin.net/malcolm.murray
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==--  |
|  game/shoot/Hanger18  |game/shoot/Traitor|    The Turtleminator   |
|game/jump/BananaIslands|  game/role/CHAOS |       Hangar 18 II     |
|  game/shoot/Extinct   | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
|   dev/amos/KeyState   | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
|  pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII   |                        |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll  |                  |                        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 08:32:37 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 08:32:37 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04840
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:32:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16067
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:38:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16064
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:38:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from www200.image.dk (www200.image.dk [194.234.58.146])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16501
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 07:38:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from zedeler.dk (rzedeler@pm23-7.image.dk [194.234.169.135])
	by www200.image.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13774
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:38:27 +0200
From: Rune Zedeler <rune@zedeler.dk>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:00:14 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7444.710.139870040@smtp.image.dk>
In-Reply-To: <yam7442.2930.1749004280@post8.tele.dk>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Re: Help with Hex
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by svcs1.digex.net id HAA16065
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Sorry, but I just HAD to write this :)

On 18-May-98, Jens Vang Petersen wrote:

>Right.. First a little background. HEX means 16, just like deci means 10,

No, HEX means 6 (you know a hexagon consists of six edges).
We talk about HEXaDECImal numbers, which means something like 6+10 = 16...


-- 

         /Ż\ __    __ /ŻŻŻŻŻ\           _         Rune Zedeler
________/ /// \\__/ \\\  ---/           \Ż-_      Peter Rĝrdams Vej 19
\      / //Ż|  \\/  ||Ż\ \\ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   Ż-_   2800 Lyngby
 )    / //  | \ ` / ||  \ \\ Lemmus of Efreet  -  Denmark
/    / ŻŻŻŻŻ\\|\-'/ /ŻŻŻŻŻ \\____________   _-Ż
ŻŻŻŻŻ\------'/||ŻŻ| \------'/           /_-Ż      rune@zedeler.dk
      ŻŻŻŻŻŻ\-'/  \-'/ŻŻŻŻŻŻ            Ż         Tel: +45-45871730
             ŻŻ    ŻŻ

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 12:20:06 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 12:20:06 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02825
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:20:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22776
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22773
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11589
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:40:13 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by riverside.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA18282
	  at Thu, 21 May 1998 09:39:57 -0500 (CDT)
	  SMTP "HELO" = students.nwc.edu
	  But _really_ from eagle.nwc.edu [199.86.79.248]
	  SMTP "MAIL FROM" = .mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu
	  SMTP "RCPT TO" = <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Received: from CEDAR/SpoolDir by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40);
    21 May 98 09:38:42 -0500
Received: from SpoolDir by CEDAR (Mercury 1.40); 21 May 98 09:37:52 -0500
Received: from w121.nwc.edu (199.86.72.39) by students.nwc.edu (Mercury 1.40);
    21 May 98 09:37:47 -0500
From: "Michael Paul Ness" <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu>
To: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:37:45 +0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Subject: OS3.1
Priority: normal
Message-ID: <168350B26D1@students.nwc.edu>
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Ok, I just finished compiling two cool games and/or parts of games on 
my nice little A2000 with OS2.1.  I saved them to floppy and tried 
the binaries on my friend's A1200 with OS3.1.  They didn't work!  All 
I got was the nice little "program failed" error.  I put in the amos 
library and everything I cound think of.  When I got back to my A2000 
they worked fine and even when I booted under OS1.3 they worked.  
Does anyone know at all what happened?


Michael Ness
mpness@eagle.nwc.edu
A proud supporter of Amiga computers everywhere!

From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 16:35:43 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 16:35:43 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06878
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:35:43 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01648
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01645
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:24:50 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (uv334@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14093
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:24:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from uv334@localhost)
	by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17892;
	Thu, 21 May 1998 11:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
X-Sender: uv334@vtn1
To: Michael Paul Ness <.mpness.users.nwc@students.nwc.edu>
cc: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: OS3.1
In-Reply-To: <168350B26D1@students.nwc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980521111739.17796A-100000@vtn1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

Name your extensions.  Plus, do you use the Trap statement?

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
        John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
    http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 17:26:21 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 17:26:21 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17872
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:26:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA03786
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:01:38 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03782
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:01:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mago.agonet.it (root@mago.agonet.it [195.32.124.10])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02772
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from agonet.it (ghizzo@p126067.agonet.it [195.32.126.67])
	by mago.agonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20794;
	Thu, 21 May 1998 19:54:44 +0200
From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@agonet.it>
Reply-To: ghizzo@agonet.it
To: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@virgin.net>, amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:01:59 +0100
Message-ID: <yam7445.2978.1747465704@mail.agonet.it>
In-Reply-To: <3562E2FA.MD-0.198.malcolm.murray@virgin.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Dairymen Soft
Subject: Re: GUI Bug
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Alastair

On 20-Mag-98, Alastair Murray wrote: GUI Bug

> I've found abug in the GUI extension.
> When using scroller bars (Arrows at the end and a bar to slide
> up/down) the bar part of it will only be displayed if you open the
> window on the workbench screen.

Yes i know :) A stupid bug about VisualInfo and the detail/block pens.

> If you create you own screen (however many colours) and then open the
> window on it, the colour used for the bar is the same as the one used
> for the background and therefore invisable.
> 
> I've only taken this long to find it because I use MCP which alters
> the Gadtools look anyway and therefore allows it to look OK.
> 
> Please fix!  :)

Already done... i've sent you the fixed version. Try it, and let me know if it
works fine for you.

*To all the GUI users:*

don't worry.. i'm working on a updated version. I've fixed all the reported
bugs and the strange effects. Now the GUI Extension should be rock solid as
usual :)

-- 


Bye!


                                     !!!
                                     o o
   +-----------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------------------+
   |                                                                    |
   |  Pietro Ghizzoni - Dairymen Soft              __  /// Amiga 12OO   |
   |     E-Mail:  ghizzo@agonet.it                 \\\/// 'O3O  5OMhz   |
   |            Team AMIGA                          \/// 18MB - CD4x    |
   |                                                                    |
   | Amos Professional Team Coordinator               AMIGA RULEZ!!     |
   |                                                                    |
   +--------------------------------------------------------------------+


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 19:30:33 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 19:30:32 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23021
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:30:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09164
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09161
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09847
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 12285 invoked from network); 21 May 1998 20:55:26 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.147)
  by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 21 May 1998 20:55:26 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:53:19 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7445.957.4334080@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980521111739.17796A-100000@vtn1>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re[2]: OS3.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello John

> Name your extensions.  Plus, do you use the Trap statement?

Is trap a command which doesn't work with 3.1? If so, I could have probs
with my mailinglist stuff.

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
               with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 19:24:36 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 19:24:35 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17466
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:24:35 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11625
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:50:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11620
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:50:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (uv334@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17271
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:50:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from uv334@localhost)
	by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24360;
	Thu, 21 May 1998 14:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
X-Sender: uv334@vtn1
To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
cc: amos-list@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: Re[2]: OS3.1
In-Reply-To: <yam7445.957.4334080@mail.redrose.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980521143940.23425A-100000@vtn1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

I've been using Trap in a program I'm working on.  Using it sparingly has
caused the following:

Random 2 byte writes to the screen
Random 2 byte writes anywhere else
All kinds of weird stuff being written to the screen

I'd avoid using it, especially in commands like Trap A=I Bob(4), where the
result is a function.  In that case, yor computer will bug out like crazy.
Avoid Trap!

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
        John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
    http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#

On Thu, 21 May 1998, Andy Kellett wrote:

> Hello John
> 
> > Name your extensions.  Plus, do you use the Trap statement?
> 
> Is trap a command which doesn't work with 3.1? If so, I could have probs
> with my mailinglist stuff.
> 
> Regards
> -- 
>  Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
>   *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored
> 
> Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
> mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
>                with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE
> 
> * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
>      World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk
> 
>    Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
>                 quality prices. See homepage for links.
> 
> 


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Thu May 21 20:59:06 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Thu May 21 20:59:06 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10911
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 20:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14413
	for amos-out; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14378
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail2.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.82])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18683
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Thu, 21 May 1998 18:54:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 5076 invoked from network); 21 May 1998 23:05:33 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.160)
  by 204.249.184.82 with SMTP; 21 May 1998 23:05:33 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:54:06 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7445.319.5578560@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980521143940.23425A-100000@vtn1>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re[4]: OS3.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello John

> I've been using Trap in a program I'm working on.  Using it sparingly has
> caused the following:

> Random 2 byte writes to the screen
> Random 2 byte writes anywhere else
> All kinds of weird stuff being written to the screen

> I'd avoid using it, especially in commands like Trap A=I Bob(4), where the
> result is a function.  In that case, yor computer will bug out like crazy.
> Avoid Trap!

Ouch! I just use it for trapping for file access right now, as I cant
figure out a way to get around it. Oh well, hehe

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
               with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 22 13:51:57 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 22 13:51:57 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12596
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:51:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17742
	for amos-out; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17737
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login-2.eunet.no (0@login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23139
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from login.eunet.no (Mortenbo@pc1.pm2-2.eunet.no [193.71.29.1]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.8.8/8.8.3/Torbjorn) with SMTP id SAA02521 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:22:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
To: AmosList <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1978 01:16:41 +0500
Message-ID: <yam198.2088.2015085880@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: GUI Pob & Non Amos
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 


Hello again.

here is some questions i hope to get some help with.


- I have some problems with understanding how to get the diffrent gadgets 
  to work in Amos.
  Here is my problem:

  I have made a little multitasking menu for my diskmag that is to pop up when
  you multitasks to the Workbench.
  On the gui that i have made in GadToolsBox there are one button for going
back
  into the diskmag and one for quitting.
  I've included the gui into my program and it pops up as it should when i 
  multitasks to wb, but i dont understand the syntax for checking if button
one 
  or two is presed.

  this is what i want

do 
If button one is pressed then multitask back to Diskmag
If button two is pressed then End 
loop

- Is there a way to make a homepage and put it on www in a special way so 
  no one can trace that homepage to you, not even the cops???
  And is this possible to do with a E-mail adress to??

  If i open a Hotmail account and Lie on all the questions i have to ansver
when 
  opening the account, can that account be traced to me in any way then??


Thanx in advance for helping

Morten Bolstad




From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 22 07:39:54 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 22 07:39:54 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09849
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 07:39:54 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA29441
	for amos-out; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:01:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-1.mail.digex.net (pony-1.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.5])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29438
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:01:09 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from orca.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA03540
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:01:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 26863 invoked by uid 1514); 22 May 1998 10:00:36 -0000
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:00:36 +0100 (IST)
From: Matt <mattw@orca.ucd.ie>
To: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: \problems with Trap? 
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980522105730.26283A-100000@orca.ucd.ie>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hi, I just saw that the use of Trap was causing problems. Can anyone
tell me exactly what these are. I was ready to (finally!) release my
game when I noticed that trap isn't rock solid. Unfortunatly I rely on
it quite a bit. Does it always bum out?

###       ###  ########  ########### ###########
####     #### ###    ###     ###         ###
##!##   ##!## #!#    #!#     #!#         #!#
!#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@!     !@!         !@!     mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie
!!!   !   !!! !!!    !!!     !!!         !!!            x  x
:!:       :!: :!:    :!:     :!:         :!:            \__/
:::       ::: :::    :::     :::         :::  
::         :: ::     ::       :           :


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 22 13:18:49 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 22 13:18:49 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07629
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:18:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12300
	for amos-out; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:42:02 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12297
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (uv334@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca [199.60.222.3])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10278
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:41:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from uv334@localhost)
	by vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18618;
	Fri, 22 May 1998 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bintz <uv334@victoria.tc.ca>
X-Sender: uv334@vtn1
To: Matt <mattw@orca.ucd.ie>
cc: Amos-List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: \problems with Trap? 
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980522105730.26283A-100000@orca.ucd.ie>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.980522073330.18264A-100000@vtn1>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

I use it very sparringly in my latest program, and it still hacks around
in memory.  Mayhaps Pietro can poke around the source and give us some
feedback on this Trap problem?  It really destroys programs if used with a
function:  Trap A=I Bob(6).  You have been warned.  8^)

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
        John C. Bintz - * uv334@freenet.victoria.bc.ca *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
    http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#

On Fri, 22 May 1998, Matt wrote:

> Hi, I just saw that the use of Trap was causing problems. Can anyone
> tell me exactly what these are. I was ready to (finally!) release my
> game when I noticed that trap isn't rock solid. Unfortunatly I rely on
> it quite a bit. Does it always bum out?
> 
> ###       ###  ########  ########### ###########
> ####     #### ###    ###     ###         ###
> ##!##   ##!## #!#    #!#     #!#         #!#
> !#! #!#!# !@! !@!!@@!!@!     !@!         !@!     mattw@netsoc.ucd.ie
> !!!   !   !!! !!!    !!!     !!!         !!!            x  x
> :!:       :!: :!:    :!:     :!:         :!:            \__/
> :::       ::: :::    :::     :::         :::  
> ::         :: ::     ::       :           :
> 
> 


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 22 11:33:37 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 22 11:33:37 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01463
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:33:37 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10047
	for amos-out; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:57:30 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10043
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (root@AS52-26-54.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.133.54])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17795
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from hicksville.dyn.ml.org (Giark@AS52-10-225.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.129.225])
          by hicksville.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id JAA11990 for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:56:18 -0500
From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
To: AMOS List <amos-list@access.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:54:09 -0500
Message-ID: <yam7446.476.1747417376@hicksville.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <yam7445.319.5578560@mail.redrose.net>
X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck
Subject: Trap
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

On 21-May-98, Andy Kellett wrote:
>Ouch! I just use it for trapping for file access right now, as I cant

I never use trap for file access.

For most, I use Exist and Eof(#)

as in

If Exist("File Path")
 open in 1,"file"
 do
 input#1,a$
 if eof(1)
  exit
 endif
 loop
close1
endif

Well met and godspeed,
                      Giark
                                       giark@hicksville.dyn.ml.org
                                http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
                            .----------------------------------------------.
                            |      ______  ______    _____                 |
                            |     / ____/ / __  /   / ___ \ Makers of      |
                            |    / /__   / /_/ /   / /  / / SoloTrek II    |
                            |   / ___/  / ____ \  / /  / /                 |
                            |  / /     / /___/ / / /  / /   CyberSpace BBS |
                            | /_/     /_______/ /_/  /_/    (519)579-0072  |
                            |    Fly By Nite Videe-Oh!      (519)579-0173  |
                            |                                              |
                            |    Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast   |
                            `----------------------------------------------'


From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net Fri May 22 15:47:04 1998
>From amos-request@svcs1.digex.net  Fri May 22 15:47:03 1998
Received: from svcs1.digex.net (svcs1.digex.net [204.91.197.224])
	by pony-1.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04184
	for <mcox@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:47:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24641
	for amos-out; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:31:04 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from pony-2.mail.digex.net (pony-2.mail.digex.net [204.91.241.6])
	by svcs1.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24638
	for <amos-list@svcs1.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:31:03 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail1.desupernet.net (qmailr@mail.desupernet.net [204.249.184.22])
	by pony-2.mail.digex.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20127
	for <amos-list@access.digex.net>; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:31:01 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (qmail 25239 invoked from network); 22 May 1998 18:33:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mushypd) (mushy-pd@208.157.100.233)
  by 204.249.184.22 with SMTP; 22 May 1998 18:33:13 -0000
From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
Reply-To: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>
To: Morten Bolstad <mortenbo@login.eunet.no>
CC: amos-list@access.digex.net
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:31:01 -0400
Message-ID: <yam7446.55.4425088@mail.redrose.net>
In-Reply-To: <yam198.2088.2015085880@smtp.eunet.no>
X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch
Organization: Mushroom PD - AMOS PD Library
Subject: Re: GUI Pob & Non Amos
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Status: O
X-Status: 

Hello Morten

> do 
> If button one is pressed then multitask back to Diskmag
> If button two is pressed then End 
> loop

Create the GUI with 2 buttons, and use something like:

Gui Open 1,1,20 : rem Open up GUI

do
a=gui wait

if a=1:end:endif
if a=2:amos to front: ..... :endif
loop

If you RTFM and look at the examples, its all their for you!

> - Is there a way to make a homepage and put it on www in a special way so 
>  no one can trace that homepage to you, not even the cops???
>  And is this possible to do with a E-mail adress to??

>  If i open a Hotmail account and Lie on all the questions i have to ansver
> when 
>  opening the account, can that account be traced to me in any way then??

I can do it with homepages, but its not advised. I dont even reccomend you
upload anything illegal. Most FTP sites carry at least your IP address in
the logs when uploading.

Regards
-- 
 Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@redrose.net>  Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
  *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
mushypd-foundation@redrose.net
               with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
     World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

   Also official US distributor of  F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
                quality prices. See homepage for links.


