{center} {subhead} Fleecy Chat Part I{def}{p} Article by Mark Tierno {left} {p} {p} A capture of a live chat with Fleecy Moss and new Amiga Partner Tao-Group. It is presented just as it was uploaded. All spelling errors are theirs :) -Mark {p} {p} LiveChat with TAO-Group and Fleecy Moss {p} {p} sNAK3^RP welcome to amigagames {p} {p} [breed-away] and its nice to see Cooksey wont be joining us hehe {p} {p} [breed-away] Are you ready to get started Francis? {p} {p} DD--i_c_u :D {p} {p} situation Here we go... {p} {p} Charig breed-away:re Cooksey - seconded {p} {p} Jagge ja {p} {p} Senex 1) One thing "Amiga Aurora" (my suggestion for the new OS's name) MUST have: Screens - so how about Screens, Datatypes, FFS-support? 2) Why not calling the product family just "Amiga", i.e. "Amiga Aurora", "Amiga XYZ", etc.? GA {p} {p} Charig We will be working with Amiga, taking a close look at the existing features and making sure that the new system will have the same or greater functionality. {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} Netsplit^ when can we expect to be reaching for our checkbooks, to buy something new from u guys & when might it be. GA {p} {p} Charig Bill's in the room and Fleecy can't talk! :) Announcements on this will come when the product is ready to ship. No more hype! {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} Urizen Will you support hardware-accelerated OpenGL? GA {p} {p} Charig intent(TM) supports hardware accelerated 2D and 3D graphics. As for the 3D APIs that sit on top, we encourage all 3D APIs to be ported across. Have you heard of Renderware? :) {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} tOmAsH-BB What is the real cooperation level of TAO and Motorola? I mean,does Motorola want to use your (Amiga?) software, and vice versa? {p} {p} tOmAsH-BB GA {p} {p} Charig It is publicly known that Motorola is releasing connected appliances utilising Tao's software (e.g. Timeport P1088 smart phone, see announcement 8.1.00) {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} dreamstar Q: will Elate be used as the next generation OS of future Amigas? GA {p} {p} Charig Specifics on this will announced shortly. :) {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} Firebird^ Hello Mr. Charig, my feeling about Gateway 2000's (Old Amiga Inc.) plans for using Linux as the OS of the new machines is that it would be a mistake. It wouldn't be an Amiga, just a Linux box with the Amiga name slapped on it. I hope this isn't going to be planned. ;) {p} {p} Charig That was a statement! {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} Elektro fleecy: please describe the new amiga Computer(!) thnx :) GA {p} {p} Charig "It's lovely and cuddly" says Fleecy {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} amiga-news_d Lost my text. {p} {p} situation msg me when you find it {p} {p} sNAK3^RP :ell there be a Os4.0 chipset...GA {p} {p} JoeSchmo Howdy {p} {p} Charig If you mean, "a new chipset for a new Amiga" then the answer is that the new Amiga has been designed to be hardware independent, hence Tao. {p} {p} Charig This is why we are partnering together. {p} {p} Charig Also I want to add a couple of other points. {p} {p} sNAK3^RP :will we still have Os as such...GA {p} {p} Charig The main objective today is to correspond about intent(TM) rather than have extrapolations about the precise configurations of the new Amiga. {p} {p} Charig ga {p} {p} TheB What is the Amiga "history" that TAO has? It doesn't seem very comforting that you have to take a look at the Amiga to figure out what it's about. (As for Firebird's statement.. that's true of any new "Amiga".) And as for this 'hardware independent' Amiga.. is that like java? :) GA {p} {p} Charig Have you looked at our website to see what technology we offer? {p} {p} Charig GA {p} {p} amiga-news_d 1st question: TAO: It was reported you helped funding the Amiga buyout. How much of it was "your idea", means, are you tech supplier, partner, or even more? 2nd question: Will VP Code and/or Amiga documentation be freely available for the "just curious"? GA {p} {p} fleecy We talked to Tao when looking for partners and got so horny about each other that Tao dropped us some VC names and made introductions and recommendations about Amiga. {p} {p} [breed-away] Gaij!!!! {p} {p} Guest45753 Tao is our foundation supplier. Amiga will be providing all the support. Anyone who signs up to develop will have access to full APIs. {p} {p} Guest45753 GA {p} {p} Swarfega Apple's new OS X has a lot of it's GUI done with vectors, which allows easy scaling, rotating, etc. of pretty much anything on the screen. Will that sort of thing be possible with new Amigas (or is the OS extensible enough to allow people to write their own interfaces)? GA {p} {p} JoeSchmo fleecy's nick got switched..... fix needed. {p} {p} charig We are not intending to have matrix style transformations embedded in the lowest layers of the graphics subsystem as this inherently slows down all other graphics functions. {p} {p} charig Such vector type operations are available higher up. {p} {p} charig ...where they should be. {p} {p} charig Remember... elegance through simplicity and performance. {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} dark4ces would there be any performance benefit to writing code in VP assembler rather than higher-level languages? GA {p} {p} NeRP^cF $#%@#$% server :) {p} {p} charig There will be the same benefit that writing an assembler over high level languages offers in any other environment. {p} {p} charig You trade off slightly higher development effort in order to gain tighter, faster code. {p} {p} charig Remember that writing in VP gives you the advantages of assembler but no portability drawback. {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} sNAK3^RP monolog::rendering will be faster:)))) {p} {p} AmigaDragon (1) Will the new system (HDW or SW) have equivalent (or higher) filesystem support such as CrossDOS/CrossMAC including Windows longfilenames? (2) Fleecy, will we see, sometime in the not too distant future, AmigaOS (classic) Open source? GA {p} {p} fleecy Me and 4 of the dev team have been VP for 2 days now and it's nothing like traditional assembler, more like C with the crap bits taken out. You'll find out soon. {p} {p} Guest78547 Answer to AmigaDragon - Q1 - You can mimic multiple file systems + they also have their own high performance native file system. {p} {p} Guest78547 Amigadragon (2) - our lawyers are looking into it but it is a much more complicated web than anybody could guess. {p} {p} Guest78547 GA {p} {p} TheRiley if someone wanted to build an "Amiga"-desktop based on, say, the POP-standard, and use your new OS , would you support it (and if, how)? could the new OS run on phase5 Amirage for example? (ok, that's 2 questions, but they overlap so much that they are basically one :)) {p} {p} charig 1. Yes. 2. Bill was talking to Gerald Carda yesterday. :) {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} HaXoR^ Mr Charig / Fleecy, is it just a coincidence this conference happening immediately before the transmeta cpu lauch(5pmGMT)? GA {p} {p} charig Yes. We are hardware independent. {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} Cpt_Hbl^ How long has Amino/Amiga and Tao been co-operating ? We know all about Fleecy/Bill/Petro but how does Toa feel about Amiga community? GA {p} {p} [breed-away] Yup, it was supposed to happen yesterday..... {p} {p} charig We have a large amount of respect for the Amiga community which is why we have been working cooperatively with Bill and Fleecy for some months, determined to make this really happen. {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} BJS The Time of Homecomputers of the 80's r over, i mean, what does a CHRP board with an strange OS with Amiga in common, other than the name, it's just marketing. and the things done from 1994 till now r only done for the existing userbase and they shrunk, how will u encourage others to buy amiga? {p} {p} charig By providing the best platform. {p} {p} charig GA {p} {p} {link fe6} Continue...{end}