These are all the messages posted to the JUST-AMiGA mailing list in MAY 1999. Signed. Chris Seward JUST-AMiGA Moderator and Editor of Amiga Information Online For help or more information email :- chris@aio.co.uk or read JOIN-JA.txt that came with this archive for details on joining this mailing list! ************** HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK ************** From Scooby@KiloTwo.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 06 10:29:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12405 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:36:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 16282 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 23:38:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16276 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 23:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 23:38:26 -0000 Received: from modem-109.cornucopia.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.148.237] helo=freeserve.co.uk ident=root) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hia0-000316-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:38:25 +0100 From: Michael Conde To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 06 May 1995 10:29:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: cbe167696c7de15093589cf8aa31f56c From: Michael Conde >How many people here are planning on going to WOA this year? I have > _never_ been to a computer fair before, and I think I might go. > > -Stephen I'm going!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!! Michael Conde ***************************************************** Amigas and PlayStations....that's all the world needs! ....Oh, and motorbikes!....and WOMEN!!! and, erm, loads of other things, but THAT'S IT! (Damn, forgot to press my humour button!) ========================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ck@mystcorp.com Sat May 01 11:49:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04690 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 12:17:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 29910 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 12:18:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29904 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from p39.nas3.is3.u-net.net ([195.102.197.39] helo=mystcorp.u-net.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10dYj8-0000OV-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 1 May 1999 13:18:38 +0100 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 11:49:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Ltd. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 777d9ac476ac955d710978771598aa49 From: Conor Kerr Hi Ken, >> Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the >> passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse >> about it. > > Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. Also where it says can be found, it CAN'T! Thats > why I asked if anyone found it. Yes but 45.5 IS A FAKE LIBRARY - for all intents and purposes it could even be said to be infected with a VIRUS. THAT is why it has been taken off the aminet and can't be found. Why would you want to run something that would only damage you?!! If DtConvert requires 45.5 then you have no choice, you can't use it. If you do your usernames, passwords and keyfiles wil be spread to the pirate sites on the internet, I don't think you want that. All the best... *Conor Kerr* MD, Mystique Corporation International Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know why... 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Please read this message from Holger Kruse >>> about it. >> >> Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. Also where it says can be found, it CAN'T! Thats >> why I asked if anyone found it. > Yes but 45.5 IS A FAKE LIBRARY - for all intents and purposes it could even > be said to be infected with a VIRUS. > THAT is why it has been taken off the aminet and can't be found. Why would > you want to run something that would only damage you?!! > If DtConvert requires 45.5 then you have no choice, you can't use it. If > you do your usernames, passwords and keyfiles wil be spread to the pirate > sites on the internet, I don't think you want that. > All the best... > *Conor Kerr* > MD, Mystique Corporation International Ltd. Try to patch the library you have into v45.5 in a hex editor (making a backup first of course). You're looking for $9014xxxx for the version and $9016xxxx for the revision (these two four-byte commands are often right after each other). Try changing it into $9014002d and $90160005. Linus -- wwww (o)(O) .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://linusworld.cjb.net | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' F U CN RD THS U CNT SPL WRTH A DM! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention small business owners: http://www.onelist.com Did you know that ONElist is a great way for small business owners to stay in touch with their customers? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat May 01 16:59:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15572 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:56:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 6577 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 16:58:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6570 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 16:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 16:58:43 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1456 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 1 May 1999 12:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 2aca574e4b6d8b462a539e5f97104cf2 From: Pat Kushko > >> Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert worth > >> fiddling with ? > > >Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the > >passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse > >about it. > > Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. > Also where it says can be found, it CAN'T! Thats why I asked if anyone found > it. Yes, I just checked and I have the older 45.4 version of this library because of the bogus 45.5 version. Quoting the docs of DTconvert: -- Fixed the bug that a descriptor was unlocked too often in some cases. See BUGS section above about a matching bug in datatypes.library V45.3 and V45.4 (V45.5 fixes this). 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X-UIDL: bb9651a71c84f8082a2ef9b04d773533 From: Chris Seward Amiga Information Online will have been running for 2 long years when issue 24, May 1999 is released on 22nd May 1999. We want to see your letters about your ideas on how AIO has changed over the years, what you think has improved, what you miss from older issues. Aswell as your birthday greetings to the magazine, please send any letters you have to, *letters@aio.co.uk* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 130,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Sat May 01 18:07:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17954 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 17:07:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 13364 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 17:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 13303 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 17:09:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 17:09:00 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19875 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 13:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-20.digital.net [208.14.41.20]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00971 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 13:09:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Pat Kushko Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 13:07:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 3d6f3226d4dd5d945a29d8d0b1d7495a From: Ken >> >> Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert worth >> >> fiddling with ? >> >> >Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the >> >passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse >> >about it. >> >> Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. >> Also where it says it can be found, it CAN'T! Thats why I asked if anyone >> found it. >Yes, I just checked and I have the older 45.4 version of this library >because of the bogus 45.5 version. >Quoting the docs of DTconvert: >-- >Fixed the bug that a descriptor was unlocked too often >in some cases. See BUGS section above about a matching bug >in datatypes.library V45.3 and V45.4 (V45.5 fixes this). >Fixed (both "datatypes.library" and "DTConvert"). So maybe since we've danced all around where do you find 45.5 ? I seem to recall using dtconvert ages ago, but that was about 25 gigs of HD's back.. And I can't recall if it ever did anything.. I have 45.4 Thats avail on aminet as 454upd. Next question was is dtconvert worth fiddling with ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Grow your list the most and receive a $5000 donation to the charity of your choice. http://www.onelist.com See our homepage for details on our new ONEreach incentive programs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From peter@amigauniverse.co.uk Sat May 01 22:29:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02035 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:17:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 20322 invoked by alias); 1 May 1999 22:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20273 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 22:18:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 May 1999 22:18:34 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.190] (helo=amigauni.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10di2M-0003xh-00; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:15:06 +0000 From: Peter Price Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:29:12 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Amiga Universe Organisation To: Just Amiga ML Resent-From: Peter Price Resent-Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:37:40 +0000 Resent-Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Double press release X-UIDL: b9b464f1006f1a990fae2f3ada96ddb7 From: Peter Price This is a special mail to announce two things, one of which you may already know about: a) amigauniverse.co.uk is GO for launch! 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From what I understand the best options are the Picasso IV and CyberVision boards. Does anyone have an opinion as to which is the better choice? Also, I will be purchasing an accelator later this year. If it ends up being the PPC type, would that make the CyberVision a better choice for the graphics card now since they are made by the same company? Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.onelist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kwdjc@wf.net Sun May 02 01:29:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02154 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 01:28:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 3865 invoked by alias); 2 May 1999 01:30:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3583 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 01:30:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 May 1999 01:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29705 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 20:30:34 -0500 Received: from mw-pm4-13.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.22) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 1 May 1999 20:30:34 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:29:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: datatypes lib 455 X-UIDL: 79f79f5ab109478f3496a804a7fec534 From: Kenneth Craig Hello Ken, On 01-May-99, Ken wrote: > From: Ken > >>> >> Has anyone found version 45.5 datatypes.library or is dtconvert >>> >> worth fiddling with ? >>> >>>> Please don't use version 45.5 as it was the fake lib that read the >>>> passwords for your isp. Please read this message from Holger Kruse >>>> about it. >>> >>> Dtconvert REQUIRES 45.5. Also where it says it can be found, it >>> CAN'T! Thats why I asked if anyone found it. > >> Yes, I just checked and I have the older 45.4 version of this library >> because of the bogus 45.5 version. > >> Quoting the docs of DTconvert: >> -- >> Fixed the bug that a descriptor was unlocked too often >> in some cases. See BUGS section above about a matching bug >> in datatypes.library V45.3 and V45.4 (V45.5 fixes this). >> Fixed (both "datatypes.library" and "DTConvert"). > > > So maybe since we've danced all around where do you find 45.5 ? I seem > to recall using dtconvert ages ago, but that was about 25 gigs of HD's > back.. And I can't recall if it ever did anything.. > > I have 45.4 Thats avail on aminet as 454upd. > > Next question was is dtconvert worth fiddling with ? > Seems after I did a search on Aminet for DTConvert I found this version of datatypes.library that includes dtconvert. dtypeslib453.lha util/libs 203K 99 New datatypes.library, V45.3, + AREXX + DTCo -- Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. -- Murphy's laws on sex Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net kcraig@usa.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can now easily share photos and documents with your fellow list members http://www.ONElist.com Check out our homepage for details on how to use our new shared files feature! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sun May 02 03:26:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA26723 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 17:59:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 23360 invoked by alias); 2 May 1999 18:01:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23299 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 18:01:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 May 1999 18:01:41 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p037.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.101]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA04298; Mon, 3 May 1999 06:01:03 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:26:56 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 77a3bf6ea6d39af7039be99fe562e3de From: Rick Giles It is a fact that WB dosn't allow a shell window to operate the Wb title bar. There is a program I've seen to fix that, but I've since lost it. Does ANYBODY have ANY information on what it might be called? Aminet searches arn't easy to win with. 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Regards Tom -- Editor, AmiSITE <----------> http://www.amisite.co.uk/ #The online magazine for those who dare to be different# ICQ:17701673 - IRC:Freaky - RC5: 26081 2^28 blocks done -- Netus Maternis, Netum Paternis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always wanted to set up a book club, but can't find the time? http://www.onelist.com Create an online book club through ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From malky@nobleone.u-net.com Sun May 02 21:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA30326 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:40:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 28397 invoked by alias); 2 May 1999 21:39:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28256 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:39:43 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.52] (helo=p52.nas1.is5.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10e3u7-00026L-00; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:36:05 +0000 From: "Malcolm Harnden" Organization: A4000 040/40Mhz PPC200Mhz CVPPC User http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Date: 2 May 99 22:33:10 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000130] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Graphics card X-UIDL: 7794e6bb1aa34a19672fa4b1c1980ef0 From: "Malcolm Harnden" This *Amiga PPC* owner and program buyer reply`s to your.... ------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 01 May 1999 19:29:09 -0500 [just-amiga] Graphics card Hi jack york > From: jack york > > Hello, > > I am going to purchase a graphics card this week. From what I understand > the best options are the Picasso IV and CyberVision boards. Does anyone > have an opinion as to which is the better choice? Also, I will be > purchasing an accelator later this year. If it ends up being the PPC type, > would that make the CyberVision a better choice for the graphics card now > since they are made by the same company? Only get a CVPPC if your going that accel route as the two marry together very well. I`ve sold my Cybervision now but it was a really good board a lot better than the CV3D version. If you do get a CVisionPPC remember you`ll need the additional cost of something like the automonswitch. I have one from Eyeline and it is perfect, I can now play all my old games etc on non CVPPC screens. ----------------------------------------------------- Yo momma Gates is so fat even Bill couldn't pay for her liposuction! ----------------------------------------------------- -- Only the Amiga makes it possible (Especially the *G4* Amiga) Malcolm Harnden malky@nobleone.u-net.com http://www.nobleone.u-net.com /| |\ / | | \ / ---- \_ / \ / | |May the Force be with you. |)----()---\_| \ /||\ / \ / ^::::::^ :::: : : : : :::::: :::: :: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to learn more about your list users...? their opinions, interests, thoughts? http://www.onelist.com You can now survey them with our new User Survey Tool Check out our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun May 02 22:30:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA27988 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:30:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 21365 invoked by alias); 2 May 1999 21:32:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21276 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 21:32:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 May 1999 21:32:36 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-063.enterprise.net [194.72.195.183]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11944 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:32:03 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:30:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 36727a95319ffc7dc872b81b641e17be From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > It is a fact that WB dosn't allow a shell window to operate > the Wb title bar. > There is a program I've seen to fix that, but I've since > lost it. well, what do you mean 'operate the WB tile bar'? I'm afraid that the meaning's lost on me. If you mean change it, then you could use MultiCX or MCP. If you mean change the menu items, then use toolsdeamon. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Meet me in the crowd, people, people. -- REM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Mon May 03 06:14:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA09258 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 05:47:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 6991 invoked by alias); 3 May 1999 05:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 6984 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 05:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 May 1999 05:48:41 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca ([206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06810 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port118.magma.ca [206.191.5.118]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA20163 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 01:14:27 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 282db58b72057e25288b25e1fee9e799 From: Jeff Brown > It is a fact that WB dosn't allow a shell window to operate > the Wb title bar. Why would you want to do this? Output to the shell itself is much neater! > There is a program I've seen to fix that, but I've since > lost it. Sounds like a hack... The easiest thing to do, IMHO, would be to change the context titlebar for the current console window. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. http://www.onelist.com ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jyork@voyager.net Tue May 04 15:02:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA21377 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 03:02:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 23909 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 03:03:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23812 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 03:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.voyager.net) (209.153.128.77) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 03:03:07 -0000 Received: from voyager.net (root@pntcmi137032.voyager.net [209.153.137.32]) by mail2.voyager.net (8.9.1/Voyager-MailX) with SMTP id XAA01835 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: jack york To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Graphics card X-UIDL: 61000fc66c07bebe32dfd51813359d25 From: jack york Hello Malcolm On 02-May-99, Malcolm Harnden wrote: > From: "Malcolm Harnden" > > This *Amiga PPC* owner and program buyer reply`s to your.... > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Sat, 01 May 1999 19:29:09 -0500 > > [just-amiga] Graphics card > > Hi jack york > > >> From: jack york >> >> Hello, >> >> I am going to purchase a graphics card this week. From what I understand >> the best options are the Picasso IV and CyberVision boards. Does anyone >> have an opinion as to which is the better choice? Also, I will be >> purchasing an accelator later this year. If it ends up being the PPC >> type, would that make the CyberVision a better choice for the graphics >> card now since they are made by the same company? > > Only get a CVPPC if your going that accel route as the two marry > together very well. > > I`ve sold my Cybervision now but it was a really good board a lot > better than the CV3D version. > > If you do get a CVisionPPC remember you`ll need the additional cost of > something like the automonswitch. I have one from Eyeline and it is > perfect, I can now play all my old games etc on non CVPPC screens. Thanks for the help Malcolm. I didn't know I would need something additional to get the PPC to work. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Star Wars fans are using ONElist to share the fun. http://www.onelist.com Are you? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue May 04 19:39:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23696 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:46:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 3227 invoked by alias); 4 May 1999 18:47:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 3167 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:47:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:47:19 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p036.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.100]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA28890; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:47:39 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Jeff Brown Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 06:39:31 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: b0cea3edc4a11ef44cebafb64476ebae From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Jeff Brown wrote on 03-May-99: |>> It is a fact that WB dosn't allow a shell window to operate |>> the Wb title bar. |>Why would you want to do this? Output to the shell itself is much neater! I like to use shell, yes. But the point is that I use toolmanager, and can't use it without finding a wb window to select first, then I need to select the shell again. This tedious operation is...well it is tedious. |>> There is a program I've seen to fix that, but I've since |>> lost it. |>Sounds like a hack... The easiest thing to do, IMHO, would be to change |>the context titlebar for the current console window. Console window....if the shell is the console then there is no titlebar for a shell. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Evil is just live, spelt backwards. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention Star Wars fans! http://www.onelist.com ONElist is the best place for your Star Wars list! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue May 04 19:41:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23735 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:46:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 23154 invoked by alias); 4 May 1999 18:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23128 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 18:48:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 May 1999 18:48:21 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p036.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.100]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA28906; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:47:43 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Andrew Crowe Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 06:41:39 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: c21b06e8086f146c27c987d9b63bec3f From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Andrew Crowe wrote on 03-May-99: |> well, what do you mean 'operate the WB tile bar'? You know, when we hit the right mouse button we can use the title bar for the program window which is active. Wb operates teh wb title bar, Ced operates the cygnused title bar but the newshell has no titlebar. I've seen a program that let the wb titlebar be used when the shell was selected. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Evil is just live, spelt backwards. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get "in synch!" http://www.onelist.com With the ONElist Shared Calendar Feature. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue May 04 21:42:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10787 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:42:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 3455 invoked by alias); 4 May 1999 20:44:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 3374 invoked from network); 4 May 1999 20:44:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 May 1999 20:44:33 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-063.enterprise.net [194.72.195.183]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA05351 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:43:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:42:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 71fd1a6b323e224fff42909e9825ecd7 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > |> well, what do you mean 'operate the WB tile bar'? > > You know, when we hit the right mouse button we can use the > title bar for the program window which is active. Wb operates > teh wb title bar, Ced operates the cygnused title bar but the > newshell has no titlebar. > I've seen a program that let the wb titlebar be used when the > shell was selected. Ah right, use menus on the shell. You don't happen to mean 'King CON' do you? That has menus on shell, and has a scroll bar and iconify feature too. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Why make good software, when people will buy bad. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention Star Wars fans! http://www.onelist.com ONElist is the best place for your Star Wars list! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Wed May 05 01:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA29418 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 01:48:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 7339 invoked by alias); 5 May 1999 01:50:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7289 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 01:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sheppard.torfree.net) (199.71.188.24) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 May 1999 01:50:44 -0000 Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1099 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Titlebar Program X-UIDL: ace7bea7e8a38bce8cb9362b921349d6 From: Pat Kushko On Wed, 5 May 1999, Rick Giles wrote: > From: Rick Giles > > It's simply incredible what Andrew Crowe wrote on 03-May-99: > > |> well, what do you mean 'operate the WB tile bar'? > > You know, when we hit the right mouse button we can use the > title bar for the program window which is active. Wb operates > teh wb title bar, Ced operates the cygnused title bar but the > newshell has no titlebar. > I've seen a program that let the wb titlebar be used when the > shell was selected. Wshell offers a complete menuing set-up from a shell, incombination with some sort of popmenu's (like what magicmenu's offers) and you'll have quite a lot of power at your finger tips. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged monthly. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist is truly helping connect the world! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Wed May 05 02:36:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA06129 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 02:48:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 27604 invoked by alias); 5 May 1999 02:50:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27596 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 02:50:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.204) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 May 1999 02:50:35 -0000 Received: from modem31.scully.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.234.159] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10erkj-0004Xf-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 5 May 1999 03:49:41 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 03:36:26 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Where can I find? X-UIDL: 51b1225d9053d736d50020b327776330 From: kevin gill Hello, I collect reko cardsets for the game of klondike. Many peolpe ask me if I know any www sites for them. Here on this justamiga onelist.com people ask where. there can find this that and the other. The same is happening on newsgroups. We have our telephone books with telephone addresses Would anybody take on a massive job on creating a www. magerzine. with www sites. The www sites could be collected on onelist.com, stating the adddress and a short discripion. I'm sure this would be very wellcome to all surfing the net, and an excellent way of advertising them. Or have you any ideas on a www. directory? Or is there one now? Kind regards Kev... ( collector of cardsets for klondike ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 05 08:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22932 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:02:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 15211 invoked by alias); 5 May 1999 08:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 14330 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 08:04:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 May 1999 08:04:11 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-55.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.58]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06912 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:03:52 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:04:47 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37237F62.MD-0.196.cerberus@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Squirrel Serial X-UIDL: d46cdfa29622e6178e1e6818a7802bce From: Colin Wenzel Dear people, I have a squirrel scsi/serial unit connected to an A1200's PCMCIA port. I am not actually using the SCSI bit, just the extra serial port. As I have a 33K modem connected to this A1200's internal serial port & it is working nicely, I would like to leave it alone... What I need is a Mountable device entry for SER2: or whatever you want to call it, that uses the squirrelserial.device. (in the devs: drawer) So that I have SER2: appearing as a normal DOS device for me. This is a special purpose setup I need for obtaining serial data from an external source & would be too-long winded to completely elaborate on here. Does anyone have a mountlist device entry for the squirrelserial.device that they could supply me with, please.... -------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060/50 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that http://www.ONElist.com More than 3.5 million people are using ONElist? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rcwash@concentric.net Wed May 05 18:22:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA28642 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:21:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 14837 invoked by alias); 5 May 1999 18:22:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14718 invoked from network); 5 May 1999 18:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uhura.concentric.net) (206.173.118.93) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 5 May 1999 18:22:26 -0000 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA10985; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:22:33 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA17620; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: RCWASH X-Sender: Rcwash@mariner.cris.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [just-amiga] HPDJ 420C for WB 1.3 ??? X-UIDL: 4d34687a8ee36bc282a415416d402b47 From: RCWASH Greetings! I have: A stock A500, 1MB, external floppy (with the rainbow checkmark!) and 1.3 ROMs I want: To get a printer for it, but spend as little money as possible. Good quality black a must. Color would be nice. I have seen: Ads for the HP DeskJet 420C for only $99. A driver in Aminet for the HPDJ 400C for WB 1.6 (???). Questions: -) HP's web page says that the 420C understands PCL 3. Will this work on an Amiga, or is this one of those printers which needs custom software to run, i.e. Windoze-only? -) Would this 400C driver work for a 420C? -) Is there a generic PCL 3 driver for WB 1.3 which would work? -) What is Workbench 1.6? I remember upgrading my A2000 from 1.3 to 2.04, but I don't remember anything in-between. -) And would a driver for "1.6" work under 1.3? -) OR...can anyone suggest another similarly priced solution? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Bob Washburne 610-939-3551 (office) 610-939-6058 (fax) 800-759-8888 1636840# (pager) rcwash@lucent.com rcwash@us.ibm.com "Microsoft supports industry standards the same way a rope supports a hanged man." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed May 05 20:34:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA13807 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:00:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 4128 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 18:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4014 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:02:13 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m002-p012.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.240.76]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA11864; Fri, 7 May 1999 06:01:38 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Pat Kushko Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 07:34:15 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 891a157d04da5d07021d7c734032107a From: Rick Giles |>Wshell offers a complete menuing set-up from a shell, incombination with |>some sort of popmenu's (like what magicmenu's offers) and you'll have |>quite a lot of power at your finger tips. Ah-ha! Thanks dude. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- He who gives up freedom for security deserves neither. --Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed May 05 20:35:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA13819 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:00:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 21660 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 18:01:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21541 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 18:01:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 18:01:26 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m002-p012.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.240.76]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA11870; Fri, 7 May 1999 06:01:41 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Andrew Crowe Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 07:35:50 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Titlebar Program X-UIDL: 7cb9ae79379701305fc4213419317e88 From: Rick Giles |> Ah right, use menus on the shell. You don't happen to mean 'King CON' do |>you? That has menus on shell, and has a scroll bar and iconify feature too. Shell has no menus. I'll post back and let you know that/if wbshell is the one that works- tomorrow morning...which is probably the same time I'll post this. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- He who gives up freedom for security deserves neither. --Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Wed May 05 23:58:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06257 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:09:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 901 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 17:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 751 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:10:08 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.162] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id ta742553 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:07:23 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:58:51 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HPDJ 420C for WB 1.3 ??? X-UIDL: 36a313b9a261d477ff14320e81eaf686 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello RCWASH! On 05-Mag-99, you wrote: > I have: A stock A500, 1MB, external floppy (with the rainbow checkmark!) > and 1.3 ROMs > I want: To get a printer for it, but spend as little money as possible. > Good quality black a must. Color would be nice. > I have seen: Ads for the HP DeskJet 420C for only $99. A driver in > Aminet for the HPDJ 400C for WB 1.6 (???). I own a HP 670C and works very well. WB 1.6? :) 1.6 is the version of the driver! If you look at the web site of the author, you can find the HP 670C 1.17 driver, the HP 800 1.8 driver, ecc. > Questions: > -) What is Workbench 1.6? I remember upgrading my A2000 from 1.3 to > 2.04, but I don't remember anything in-between. 1.6 is the version of the driver. > -) And would a driver for "1.6" work under 1.3? In the archive of HP 670C driver the author says: WB 1.3 or higher. So it must work for your WB, because I think it's the same for the HP 400 driver. But you can download this driver and check. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged monthly. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist is truly helping connect the world! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Thu May 06 05:55:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA21717 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 06:22:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 10987 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 06:24:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10980 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 06:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 06:24:03 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2x.magma.ca [206.191.0.220]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA02341 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 02:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port108.magma.ca [206.191.5.108]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA10899 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:55:04 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Titlebar Program X-UIDL: e1e45261515b81296a2450e52e3c9010 From: Jeff Brown > I like to use shell, yes. But the point is that I use toolmanager, > and can't use it without finding a wb window to select first, > then I need to select the shell again. This tedious operation > is...well it is tedious. hmmmm... One could feasibly write a little program that scans the Workbench screen's window list for ones with tag WORKBENCHWINDOW (?? I'd have to check includes...). When one is found, have the program call ActivateWindow(). > Console window....if the shell is the console then there is no > titlebar for a shell. Err?? The Amiga shell is usually used through a CON:-type console device. I don't see your distinction here. Note that since it IS in a window, and you CAN get a pointer to its window (one of the CON:-handler special packets...), you CAN attach a new menustrip to the titlebar or change several other aspects of the window. Note that this form of hacking is NOT safe, and I wouldn't try it with any of the CON: replacements (VNC, KCON, ...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From joncombe@yahoo.com Thu May 06 12:08:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA18219 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:02:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 8992 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 12:04:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8946 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 12:04:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web121.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 12:04:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506120858.13688.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.82.103.15] by web121.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 05:08:58 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Combe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HPDJ 420C for WB 1.3 ??? X-UIDL: 42e6d38c73edd2b345552ac4f9b45138 From: Jonathan Combe --- RCWASH wrote: > From: RCWASH > > Greetings! > > I have: A stock A500, 1MB, external floppy (with the > rainbow checkmark!) > and 1.3 ROMs > > I want: To get a printer for it, but spend as little > money as possible. > Good quality black a must. Color would be nice. > > I have seen: Ads for the HP DeskJet 420C for only > $99. A driver in > Aminet for the HPDJ 400C for WB 1.6 (???). > > Questions: > > -) HP's web page says that the 420C understands PCL > 3. Will this work > on an Amiga, or is this one of those printers which > needs custom > software to run, i.e. Windoze-only? As far as I know the Deskjet 420C is just a newer version of the DeskJet 400. The Deskjet 400 is not a Window only printer so I would think it would be OK. You might not actually need a new driver as it is comaptilble with the Deskjet 500 for which Woirkbench has a driver (or at least 3 does). > > -) Would this 400C driver work for a 420C? > Most probably. > -) Is there a generic PCL 3 driver for WB 1.3 which > would work? > Probably 500 for B+W Printing and 500C or 540C for colour work. > -) What is Workbench 1.6? I remember upgrading my > A2000 from 1.3 to > 2.04, but I don't remember anything in-between. > > -) And would a driver for "1.6" work under 1.3? > This is probably a typing error as as far as I know there was never a 1.6 version. I notice the 6 key is above the 3 on the NumPad. > -) OR...can anyone suggest another similarly priced > solution? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > -- > Bob Washburne > 610-939-3551 (office) 610-939-6058 (fax) > 800-759-8888 1636840# (pager) > rcwash@lucent.com rcwash@us.ibm.com > > "Microsoft supports industry standards the same way > a rope supports a > hanged man." > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ONElist: the best source for group communications. > http://www.onelist.com > Join today! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Thu May 06 16:03:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06159 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:04:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 32310 invoked by alias); 6 May 1999 17:05:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 32237 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 17:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 May 1999 17:05:31 -0000 Received: from modem-44.name41.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.180.44] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10fRar-00020k-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:05:53 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:03:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HPDJ 420C for WB 1.3 ??? X-UIDL: 4e383365087830e2f651d3da9c34111c From: Matthew O'Neill Hi RCWASH On 05-May-99, you wrote: > I have: A stock A500, 1MB, external floppy (with the rainbow checkmark!) > and 1.3 ROMs > I have seen: Ads for the HP DeskJet 420C for only $99. A driver in > Aminet for the HPDJ 400C for WB 1.6 (???). Hmm, a 500 isn't much use really. Printing takes loads of CPU time, as an example, my 1200 030 just manages 720x360 in B&W on my canon, even then it stops quite a bit. If you do get afairly new one, dont bother about resolution because you would have to turn it down as low as possible anyway (unless you wanna use the text mode) and colour printing would have to be done in draft if you want it this side of Xmas Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Ura Redneck if you've been arrested for getting relief in an ice machine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Thu May 06 19:17:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA17862 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:18:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 26385 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 00:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 26378 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 00:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 00:20:55 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05405 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:20:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Thu, 06 May 99 14:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: <926000406@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-Mailer: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT CRS K/S X-FTN-PID: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] AIO X-UIDL: b2c329d8f1ee3012f87415c57a31eecc From: Rich Holtzschue Greets- CS> From: Chris Seward CS> We are looking for BBSes around the world to be official distributors CS> of AIO. This would mean your BBS permantely listed in AIO. If you are CS> interested please contact me, note we DO NOT need bbses for the CS> following countries, CS> England CS> Wales CS> Australia CS> Germany CS> Greece How would this work? Would it be sent via FidoNet Mail, Email, or would we have to grab it off the web site? I assume we're talking an ASCII text file. _rich_ AmigaLine Fido BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* Fidonet 1:147/2020 Email rich.holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org The light at the end ot the tunnel is a sign at a dead end reading... Abaondon ye all hope who enter here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wanting to get back in touch with old friends? http://www.onelist.com Reunite through a ONElist community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Barry@amiga95.freeserve.co.uk Fri May 07 23:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14380 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:51:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 20216 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:48:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20134 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:48:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:48:33 -0000 Received: from modem-66.amantadine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.194] helo=amiga95.freeserve.co.uk ident=Yoda) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10fuMb-0000tJ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 8 May 1999 00:49:05 +0100 From: - = Baz = - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:47:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <926120750.30324@onelist.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="Http://www.amiga95.freeserve.co.uk/Garfield" Organization: Raising Hell Productions (Http://Welcome.to/Theripper.com) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] First Post! X-UIDL: 4ccb2b23611eab4ccd4911bb34e1ac84 From: - = Baz = - Hi All! This is my first post! Er.......Have I missed anything? How many people are on this list? Take care, -- - = Baz = - *Owner of The Ripper mailing list* *#Editor of The Ripper - The best online Amiga mag#* *Check it out NOW at* *Http://Welcome.to/TheRipper.com* *Telephone - [44] 01620-829-447* *Pager - 01426140422* *Fax - (707) 281-0587* Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.onelist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 00:04:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12016 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:40:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 6487 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:41:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6398 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:41:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:41:25 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD312650280; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:46:09 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:04:30 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: 0d24feeda3141e5f267966faf26b1482 From: Chris Seward I've been attempting to record some .mods and mp3's i've downloaded off the aminet to tape for future listening use when I'm out and about. I thought the best way to go about this would be to connect up the Amiga sound sockets to my stereo through the phono sockets. Press play on Hippoplayer/mpega and then the sound would come out through the stereo instead of the monitor or speakers. Well up to this point its all fine, I then record to my tape and this is also find, when I play back the tape on the stereo or listen to it on a walkman® it is really bad quality, not terrible but its not good enough to actually listen to. I know the Amigas sound is old and obviously out of date but is there some software/hardware I can buy/use that will allow me to atleast have nearly tape quality recordings, as close as possible to a tape quality would be helpful, something that is listen-able. If anyone can tell me how to achieve this or where I can buy some hardware for my problem then that would be great. TIA! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Who offers the richest group communications tools on the Internet? http://www.onelist.com Answer: ONElist. Check out our homepage for details! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 00:05:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12015 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:40:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 6498 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:41:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6428 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:41:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:41:28 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD352650280; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:46:13 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:05:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <414.791T161T7023866tom.hurst@clara.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmiSITE Moving! X-UIDL: e1003d6fd7d2e6b55b646e79fb15be2f From: Chris Seward Tom, On 02-May-99, you wrote: > The new site is at http://www.amisite.co.uk/, and my email will be changing > to tom@amisite.co.uk. Please update your bookmarks/links. Good luck Tom! Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 00:05:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12029 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:41:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 7399 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:41:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7376 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:41:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:41:57 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD502650280; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:46:40 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:05:38 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Epic Marketing gone bonkers? X-UIDL: e1256ccc3327065d94e88f723462849b From: Chris Seward In Amiga Format issue 123, May 1999, turn to page 4, just before the 'Month in View' page. You will see the last page to the Epic Marketing advert and in the bottom right corner you will see a heading 'Hot Software' go down the list until you come to, NibCopy2 - Removes password protection from games? Lockpick2 - Removes password protection from games? The thing that really gets me is that fact that they've added a '?' at the end like they don't really know what it is. Hehehe the title 'hot software' really does fit what they list there :) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know how many communities live at ONElist? http://www.ONElist.com More than 140,000 with nearly 1,000 new ones joining each day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 00:05:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12033 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:41:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 7672 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:42:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 7609 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:42:03 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD572650280; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:46:47 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:05:58 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Games Archive online at, www.aio.co.uk X-UIDL: 873738990576d23e046e1e9232e1b78a From: Chris Seward 8.o5.99 : ~~~~~~~ A full Games Archive has been put online at the AIO website, *http://www.aio.co.uk* . This archive offers a full list of all the games ever to be reviewed in AIO from issue 1 up to the latest issue of issue 23. Not only does it offer the game title it also offers the overall review score and a short quote from the actual review itself. Now you need never search AIO for a certain review, just look up in the Games Archive and you will find the game you are looking for, its review score and a quote. You can then get the game or download that certain issue to read the full review. To access the AIO Games Archive visit, *http://www.aio.co.uk* and click on the *MISC* link in the left frame, then click *AIO Games* *Archive* in the following menu. (http://www.aio.co.uk/GAMES.HTM) An AIO Utilities Archive is planned to be online within the next 2-3 weeks. If you have any comments, ideas or suggestions about the new archive then please let us know at, *general@aio.co.uk* NOTE : The Games Archive does not include previewed games and/or quotes. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a fun, easy way to stay in touch with family members? http://www.onelist.com Create a ONElist community just for your family! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 00:06:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12037 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:41:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 7931 invoked by alias); 7 May 1999 23:42:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7924 invoked from network); 7 May 1999 23:42:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 May 1999 23:42:09 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD5E2650280; Fri, 07 May 1999 23:46:54 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:06:14 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Have you made Game/Util/Mod/Anim X-UIDL: 968257b72d4ed439f7bb74ff9f1c8f99 From: Chris Seward I've recently seen alot of stuff from you lot. I'd just like to say its alright to advertise the fact that you've just released something. So if you've made anything from a game to animation then let the list know. Also games, utilities that you want AIO to review can be sent to the following place, chris@aio.co.uk Also if you have made a title screen for AIO or a module under 250k that you would like us to include please send it also to the address above. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga *HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO... ERMM ME :) 7TH MAY!!!* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wanting to get back in touch with old friends? http://www.onelist.com Reunite through a ONElist community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From majik@tig.com.au Sat May 08 04:21:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00450 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 05:21:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 15809 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 05:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 15797 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 05:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.tig.com.au) (203.109.250.51) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 05:23:11 -0000 Received: from tig.com.au (Majik@p47-nas7.syd.ihug.com.au [206.17.113.47]) by smtp2.tig.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA22454 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 15:23:08 +1000 From: Steven Fernandes To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:21:47 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: 880886e2c3fc679d9d9a393eee475f8a From: Steven Fernandes Hello Chris On 08-May-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > I've been attempting to record some .mods and mp3's i've downloaded off > the aminet to tape for future listening use when I'm out and about. > > I thought the best way to go about this would be to connect up the Amiga > sound sockets to my stereo through the phono sockets. Press play > on Hippoplayer/mpega and then the sound would come out through the > stereo instead of the monitor or speakers. > > Well up to this point its all fine, I then record to my tape and this is > also > find, when I play back the tape on the stereo or listen to it on a > walkman® > it is really bad quality, not terrible but its not good enough to > actually > listen to. > > I know the Amigas sound is old and obviously out of date but is there > some > software/hardware I can buy/use that will allow me to atleast have > nearly tape quality recordings, as close as possible to a tape quality > would be helpful, something that is listen-able. > > If anyone can tell me how to achieve this or where I can buy some > hardware > for my problem then that would be great. TIA! > > Toodle Pip! Regards The audio quality problem occurs because you are using the phono input, the signals are best put through the cd input or aux input. As the phono input has a different resistance rating, and signal input aswell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.onelist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Sat May 08 05:31:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA28518 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 04:50:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 5197 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 04:51:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5135 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 04:51:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 04:51:44 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca ([206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00834 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 00:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port157.magma.ca [206.191.5.157]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA04955 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 00:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: 1e69fbbe0a01df8f947390cfaea82860 From: Jeff Brown > I know the Amigas sound is old and obviously out of date but is there > some > software/hardware I can buy/use that will allow me to atleast have > nearly tape quality recordings, as close as possible to a tape quality > would be helpful, something that is listen-able. I don't think your problem is actually even Amiga-related. 8bit audio is quite good, and should sound fine on tape. If you have an AGA Amiga, try out some 14bit audio players -- make sure you calibrate your system first to clean up the glitches (if you don't know what I'm taking about, check Aminet for the, err, Cybersound package, I believe). Your main problem is gain/volume-related. If your tape deck is of a moderate quality, it probably has input source gain adjustments. Playing with this can help a *LOT* to eliminate audio clipping noise (if the volume is too high). If you have a VU meter, then you can check to make sure the level never rises above 0dB (red section, generally). Enjoy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to learn more about your list users? http://www.onelist.com Now you can with our new User Survey Tool - see homepage for details ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat May 08 09:06:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28582 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:17:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 21486 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 08:19:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 21468 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 08:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 08:19:35 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-017.enterprise.net [194.72.196.137]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA20219 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:19:15 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:06:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.1196671216.3" Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: 0399c3ef06264771f27eee96a91df636 Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. Following are some URLs where you can find MIME-capable mail programs for common platforms: Amiga............: YAM http://www.yam.ch/ Unix.............: Metamail ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/nsb/ Windows/Macintosh: Eudora http://www.qualcomm.com/ General info about MIME can be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mime-faq/top.html --BOUNDARY.1196671216.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > From: Chris Seward > = > I've been attempting to record some .mods and mp3's i've downloaded off= > the aminet to tape for future listening use when I'm out and about. > = > I thought the best way to go about this would be to connect up the Amig= a > sound sockets to my stereo through the phono sockets. Press play > on Hippoplayer/mpega and then the sound would come out through the > stereo instead of the monitor or speakers. > = > Well up to this point its all fine, I then record to my tape and this i= s > also > find, when I play back the tape on the stereo or listen to it on a > walkman=AE > it is really bad quality, not terrible but its not good enough to > actually > listen to. > = > I know the Amigas sound is old and obviously out of date but is there > some > software/hardware I can buy/use that will allow me to atleast have > nearly tape quality recordings, as close as possible to a tape quality > would be helpful, something that is listen-able. > = Well, does it actually sound fine when you play it back through the stereo, or just it just sound bad on the tape? If it plays through ok the= n you have a bust tape deck. If it sounds bad anyway, does it sound way too loud? If it sounds too loud, then your stereo is using mircophone volume for the phono inputs. This means that when you put your Amiga sound through it, the sound is to= o lound for the stereo to handel, so it distorts. You have too choices: 1. Find/Buy a new stereo system. You should really use one anyway, as the= y sound better then crappy monitor speakers any day. = I recomend the Aiwa NSX-S3, as its cheap and has 'QSound', which sligh= ly mixes the two channels which makes paula's harsh stereo sound much better= , even on head phones. 2. Make a lead: You'll need 2 variable resisters: = cut the phono lead in half, quite near one end. Strip the wires. Do as it says in this picture I've attached. Now simply adjust the resister until its quiet enough. Problem solved. See ya. -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - --BOUNDARY.1196671216.3 Content-Type: application/x-lha; name="Leads.lha" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Leads.lha" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 G94tbGg1LUsHAABoGgAApUioJgIABUxlYWRzMMwGHHN27tG23/v33fc33St1JOCkE5kG1aMB MQpBDEkBWJFJGNZgK9YLhiFwxBUQjiWCopHhswJ844BKS1xRoQhacxeEedeAtEHGLiNigkjc YoGHKzabm2mu/f/u5KKONqCSDYDEsTxLeAeO7wT3hFhvBbeA7733aM2yS/fg933tIDlWfw+5 z9Ln6XR0QB6yrCgn8sKYB7PspX6GlzukYVOWWU/XZP78Y9jRi/h2R2fyex2u12tHpdL8Zifo Dgxfyvzn4+YMMX8o+4afqz/v+v7oe9+L2z9Pn9+6HFvaM1flOZRrvrToyV6KIZQlNNwZTOhz tJAXQ5SHP93R98DN6f7x/v/b4Vnx9vx0t0KeveDjr8dfjrtrh7elF+9igO3xkZ8ZzSq3ZQz7 OKJfDr14YJHIdUKvnkZjrgsTSBYfwyN86Ev1iV2iGc2aYyl5JmhuAObRdfUP1XR1Qo8fo4gP 0kCigFJxXh1FHgJ5PnXrFUgHttbO2L4Mph7jzmeAkVXV7HVQh0M0xYsYCDwi54EMXsEwaacU D72r1XCWefRhnmLe1ULj2hQdFLOX1nU7CcVcF/GVnLZvHr643i9LQX1n0LdeYe0sZmg0x5jT Ksi/jmMop29jMkQwUdlC+dcWykhb/MDnEXKFquNM5jTOvCtlVDKUCaveMx6FpkCGKohbLCGe vGmu1jMSecG6o0NczsBvQhApeY3OmNXDspf7AarEN67PQbBMa8zZGU6/GF6iYK1Zx78q+Y2N pozu+TMy4aiGOaBMscJmQFXJjNBDCTMY7BNhi4CmzTHg77ckpyBKFyYfwtC8R+e+SKB3o2Xx gyYT4hp46UKiUGxu/5eReSRhqh7vegVI+QK/M9IlfyCWteXumo5Qom0HgGtTjUEG7g6iDLqV upJteUe4ObsIPU7wdV8/M5vdvBdexnkabvt1UIz9hIgonIc6vrdPPIbtr5PkkhTRJS1yjsJB D0ZguvOs+VAe5T+iYEPGzNZgm5JoK9yH6V74yFa9XlzhOIEemFQmhMHW6OSU79r74m5Oo4ns lLlsIL/Ry0B9zkqZhBSDpm6JjQXei/eD9/n8lYgFbLvjKsnFtEJAKws7zevkx6nt8qLPb725 q/TTRPnclwkInkzJxGyVqTezyGe0k0wzYkz5Y98cpV+z9uSLkFbTgkEkkCJwQVoJIJN+eygV t9tqIySur93Tz47we7lXl3hBFWvxUBZPienp6KGtCaTVidROI5dw9ubU10hVzfhp/ReFSKtF ehKp4APqvHllm9DgVz0VtBZvLdTAEipu2vCIqworCIDRy62XZhmVTAdMq81U4X0VOBA8ggp6 cEIrxG0mtFBJTkrwTqnDZWmwRNVOLpKxw23tps+vNPqTdgpWSz44tMvDPbAnn1MNbJmn8EB1 Mt5vmW8a26Ja2SbTzdFZ/m0vFMQt6asmePdD9YcBeKYhZ+zhgWbOjiKyjeInc6XkyTHYp+A7 eS5dRxJSxcgnfVEbVcuz4zp55xGBFuE42t2YtOc7FPTTtcuNrG1qFDvUTjqXZxWa0hP4AGn2 m1q7T8uCIU6Z68rxadfAf4wGn121qgmyvcMADdlS1ehPO8TbfUy7BlQLbq5c0+CjH9kzZh/W kugkvkWBVNrSbEE86g3jT2DgPLdnFNkWIV5oqQzvnhntvpkxIvI15xZ9XFNsFutklxRLywzV /ZOXmfPv+MrDscrZNthnaVyxqJuV1aRMq97zmKm3Hbh27z4TCF1SXYO6U+7S4t6P5ml2kL6w jO42hbDbI+/jLtNL+9snV2Yo1L9h8euNA9Bf0LqbKWXOV132ZJ4uPzAX8ZVfAUbM3Ki2aiWD j9YPb+Muo0ug0t2gvUU0vrkuxjLoNLeaW+8s745LIB8VvGW83w11nw1+Snj0rY6hjiadTMxh 1bofF6EVQtRqr1WPoimluoelEhzo558bJWxMi+dLNwox3YxH4f2xqNCPc4WlN8fq41lg7rKS M0jpblnUt29ZWp2NzWEObb1uBk0u6jFpGNQFiqjFU6WDszAu9j35BDuW5PQxXRjqgfFNicsF h9rEYzexmsGvbus4mPinY9U++OPamYYKl8UMySO6xUfhpxi1uMj4mPaRiptNzd5EJvWFA+dX STcMPmSKNqc2+l/EyNqb0IDj+w5xf7eiHujIppqbt3ndzzzB55nrJ5+RuQtxyD4DczGLpud3 vIE30S1b9vK1k4/r6yma9vW4AchoOpfwhCP+4VPXt+Xk83RRs01jrrWhaPRtq6ze4eyo0sn3 v8+rAbZE/43EMf+I+QbBjilutkXzpPSynmvqTdinCrrs4ZUsr53/rtu2yHiVymJfTmpKp2ft N7jnUlh28YKrutdZ8MfpBcIO3xyP+yM+WWP+shPEIllvbeDBlPDdPsK7Y/k3ism3xyv+Skva w3UJtWSy9vF94dAIXME7dnvn4qv/isGLjB9z6lk0w1KNzt4vrDrDthGmuTHT4w+MM4SmwvH9 YN7j//+AAA== --BOUNDARY.1196671216.3-- From fenris01@gmx.de Sat May 08 10:11:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21971 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:10:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 27686 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 11:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27672 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 11:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.gmx.net) (194.221.183.61) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 11:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 7664 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 1999 11:12:04 -0000 Received: from ppp04818.01019freenet.de (HELO gmx.de) (212.81.146.210) by mail1.gmx.net with SMTP; 8 May 1999 11:12:04 -0000 From: Micha To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: a7e79006536c2bf59d7faa7fe27a9c9f From: Micha Hi, On 08-Mai-99, Chris Seward wrote: > I thought the best way to go about this would be to connect up the Amiga > sound sockets to my stereo through the phono sockets. And that was your Problem. Try to connect your Amiga to CD-In or Tape-In on your HIFI System. Then record the Mod, Mpeg (...) File in Surround Mode (i use Eagleplayer for this). It works fine.. By the way, hello to all. This was my first Post to this List. -- CU Micha "We were playing in Yeovil, first date of our last tour," she says, shouldering her knapsack. "And someone was in the dressing room stuffing all my writing up his sweater." She puts her hands on her hips, imitating the confrontation. "He said, 'I haven't got anything,' and it all fell out. I very nearly did hit him. I've never hit anybody, but I could've hit him." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk Sat May 08 10:33:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14103 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:17:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 22674 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 10:18:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22663 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 10:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (195.44.54.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 10:18:26 -0000 Received: by mail.jakinternet.co.uk from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Sat, 08 May 1999 11:06:17 +0100 Received: from free4all.co.uk [212.41.33.49] by mail.jakinternet.co.uk [195.44.54.75] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 57D77AA004C611D399F3006067311B2C for ; Sat, 08 May 1999 11:06:12 0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:33:26 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SLUIDL: 3B5B2EA8-052D11D3-99F30060-67311B2C Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] First Post! X-UIDL: 579c21a3647da09c3be6602a62949f40 From: Nik Williams Hello - On 07-May-99, you wrote: > This is my first post! > > Er.......Have I missed anything? > How many people are on this list? I'm here ;-) -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wanting to get back in touch with old friends? http://www.onelist.com Reunite through a ONElist community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Barry@amiga95.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 08 11:25:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24387 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:26:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 16633 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 11:27:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 16624 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 11:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 11:27:48 -0000 Received: from modem-38.carafate.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.56.166] helo=amiga95.freeserve.co.uk ident=Yoda) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10g5GY-0005MD-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:27:34 +0100 From: - = Baz = - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:25:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; picture="Http://www.amiga95.freeserve.co.uk/Garfield" Organization: Raising Hell Productions (Http://Welcome.to/Theripper.com) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] First Post! X-UIDL: 240dd1b023a95d6d186e569a56593ef1 From: - = Baz = - While calling the Devil Nik said.... On 08-May-99, you wrote: --> From: Nik Williams --> Hello - --> On 07-May-99, you wrote: -->> This is my first post! -->> -->> Er.......Have I missed anything? -->> How many people are on this list? --> I'm here ;-) Realy? Cool! Hi Nick, Hows tricks? --> -- --> Nik Williams --> Peterborough --> England Powered by Amiga... --> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --> Wanting to get back in touch with old friends? --> http://www.onelist.com --> Reunite through a ONElist community. --> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --> NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* Take care, -- - = Baz = - *Owner of The Ripper mailing list* *#Editor of The Ripper - The best online Amiga mag#* *Check it out NOW at* *Http://Welcome.to/TheRipper.com* *Telephone - [44] 01620-829-447* *Pager - 01426140422* *Fax - (707) 281-0587* I can't dial 911. 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X-UIDL: 31836b92e00899c1f0a3b674a798b9b7 From: Chris Seward I've had a Star LC-200 for years, its an old Dot Matrix printer that takes a year to print but at the moment I can't afford to upgrade and its not in that much use to warrent an upgrade. I've recently been having problems with printin using Final Writer 97. Sometimes the printer will just cut out and stop, a wiggle of the cable to the printer sometimes gets it going again or switching off the printer and on again will also sometimes make it carry on. Other times or most of the time I have to reset and start again, this time it may work fully or stop.. it really is random. I have no problem with printing from the likes of CED but these are simple text and not font types with Final Writer. The problem sounds like Final Writer but why would switching the printer on and off make final writer work and also moving the cable make it work. This makes it sound like a connection but then why does it not do it with CED? I'd really like a solution without buying anything new but thats just me hoping I s'pose. Any help is appreciated. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to TOWERSHIGH, our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk Sat May 08 13:29:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02928 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:23:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 28072 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 19:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28063 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 19:24:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (195.44.54.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 19:24:25 -0000 Received: by mail.jakinternet.co.uk from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Sat, 08 May 1999 15:31:32 +0100 Received: from free4all.co.uk [212.41.34.224] by mail.jakinternet.co.uk [195.44.54.75] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 57D7825104C611D399F3006067311B2C for ; Sat, 08 May 1999 15:31:26 0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 13:29:41 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SLUIDL: ADC07021-056511D3-99F60060-67311B2C Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] First Post! X-UIDL: 8d4801df52fdaf9df81567f159372fb0 From: Nik Williams Hello Baz On 08-May-99, you wrote: > Hows tricks? > erm, good I s'pose. Never heard of The Ripper online mag, but I'll check it out tonight & I'll let ya know what I think eh? -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get "in synch!" http://www.onelist.com With the ONElist Shared Calendar Feature. See homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 14:07:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04265 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:05:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 12573 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 16:07:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12537 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 16:07:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 16:07:02 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.199.28] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4222AC20202; Sat, 08 May 1999 16:11:30 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:07:44 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Free 0800 Internet!! (fwd) X-UIDL: d822eb5407f40dcabc0b3ed81d39a7a9 From: Chris Seward *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: 95LHSC Written on: 06-May-99 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** Free 0800 internet. If you sign up please up 'Lee Hesselden' in the name box at the bottom of the form... > We would like to take a few minutes of your time to introduce you > to what will be one of the fastest growing online communities in the UK. > > Over the last few years the UK has experienced massive growth in the > global Internet market, as it becomes more and more part of everyday life. > > One of the many benefits to you for being part of Freecall-UK will be > to provide you with totally free access to the Internet via 0800 numbers. > > Like our American friends who already have the benefit of free local calls > the time is right to allow people in the UK the freedom to access information, product and service at no cost. > > Over the next few months we will be linking with other major businesses to > offer you discounts on products and services you already use on a daily basis. > > This is a totally free service, with absolutely no cost to you whatsoever. > > Please visit our web site at http://www.Freecall-UK.com and complete the > simple registration form today. > > Regards > > Freecall-UK > > http://www.freecall-uk.com *** End of forwarded message *** Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 08 15:13:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32205 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 15:34:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 31321 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 15:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31313 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from modem-56.name12.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.165.184] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10g99M-0000JL-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:36:25 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 16:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Epic Marketing gone bonkers? X-UIDL: 3626c327fa1bfa6f9aac940b96eab0f7 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 08-May-99, you wrote: > NibCopy2 - Removes password protection from games? > Lockpick2 - Removes password protection from games? > The thing that really gets me is that fact that they've added a '?' > at the end like they don't really know what it is. > Hehehe the title 'hot software' really does fit what they list there :) Trying to nobble the opposition are we? some people will stoop so low ;) anyway, you missed out maverick copy ;) Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan New Jersey: Where dump trucks go to die. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The possibilities are endless! http://www.onelist.com ONElist has something for everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 17:13:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04326 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:11:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 17829 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 16:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17638 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 16:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 16:12:33 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.199.28] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A56FB2D1029A; Sat, 08 May 1999 16:17:03 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 17:13:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Epic Marketing gone bonkers? X-UIDL: eca7b548151b765778199eccdef12f3d From: Chris Seward Matt, On 08-May-99, you wrote: > Trying to nobble the opposition are we? some people will stoop so low ;) Oh yeah i forgot about that big Amiga CD company i'm running, good job i'm pointing out other companies faults ;)) Yeeeaaahh, like whatever. Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Star Wars fans are using ONElist to share the fun. http://www.onelist.com Are you? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 18:45:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30914 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:58:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 5781 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 18:59:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5720 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 18:59:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 18:59:17 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.183] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AC80BFC702A0; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:03:44 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:45:30 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Where can I find? X-UIDL: 37aa51aadb8c237a01a66cca2ada5b70 From: Chris Seward Kev, On 05-May-99, you wrote: > We have our telephone books with telephone addresses > Would anybody take on a massive job on creating a > www. magerzine. with www sites. > The www sites could be collected on onelist.com, > stating the adddress and a short discripion. I would be happy to host this but not actually make it, if you are interested in making it then i'll put it up at my space under http://reko.aio.co.uk or whatever. So if your interested in doing the actual work i'll host it. > Or have you any ideas on a www. directory? > Or is there one now? If your talking about a Reko www direcory then no but, Amiga web directory (All sites amiga related) www.cucug.org/amiga.html All websites (Generally worldwide sites) www.yahoo.com or www.yahoo.co.uk or www.lycos.com etc. Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 19:11:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30908 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:58:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 3876 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 18:59:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3512 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 18:59:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 18:59:10 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.183] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AC81BFC702A0; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:03:45 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:11:51 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? (WORKS :) ) X-UIDL: 8eebcedd5a25a394b58946fbd5d27d09 From: Chris Seward Andrew, On 08-May-99, you wrote: > Well, does it actually sound fine when you play it back through the > stereo, or just it just sound bad on the tape? If it plays through ok then > you have a bust tape deck. Just want to say 'thanks' to everyone who helped. I've tried it with another 'newer' stereo and it works fine. I think the tape deck in the other one must be bust or the heads are dirty. Why was your name Andrew Crane in AF readers games :)? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know how many communities live at ONElist? http://www.ONElist.com More than 140,000 with nearly 1,000 new ones joining each day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 19:16:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30902 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:58:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 20499 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 19:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20489 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 19:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 19:00:10 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.183] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AC83BFC702A0; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:03:47 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:16:31 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] DDE news (fwd) X-UIDL: 6a8247bdfaccfb7d43cf1a50a8e9553c From: Chris Seward New news from Digital Dreams Entertainment. *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Raymond Written on: 07-May-99 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** 07.05.1999. ----------- Wasted Dreams master CD sent for pressing. Yes it's finally happened. Wasted Dreams is sent for pressing and according to CD plant we'll get the CDs within 10 (ten) days. 07.05.1999. ----------- What's new in Wasted Dreams? Are you sick of SMALL ANIMATIONS and BIG BLACK BORDERS around them? Are you sick of EXCUSES like "Amiga don't have enough power to play full screen animations..."? Well we say NO MORE BLACK BORDERS AND SMALL ANIMATIONS! We have developed a new video format, which allow us to smoothly play animations on FULL SCREEN even on plain A1200 with 4x speed CD-Rom. So check it out. 06.05.1999. ----------- Why Wasted Dreams is still not released? Last couple of months we have spent solving publishing and distribution problems for Wasted Dreams. We certainly didn't expect to spend that much time on this, but the problems were BIG. 06.05.1999. ----------- System crash! Last week we had a system crash and because of that we have lost some emails we've received. So if you have contacted us during last three weeks and didn't received an answer, please contact us again. ---------------------------- Digital Dreams Entertainment http://www.dd-ent.com contact@dd-ent.com ---------------------------- *** End of forwarded message *** or you can also contact me for Digital Dreams Entertainment UK things at, cseward@dd-ent.com Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The possibilities are endless! http://www.onelist.com ONElist has something for everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 19:18:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30907 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:58:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 3974 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 18:59:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3958 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 18:59:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 18:59:15 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.183] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AC84BFC702A0; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:03:48 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Promises (fwd) X-UIDL: 16f954fc1cccfa8d9436ebce5e66796e From: Chris Seward Epic Marketing news for yo' all ;) *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: malcolm pett Written on: 04-May-99 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** For immediate release 4th May 1999 Islona Entertainment is proud to announce that they have just completed a signing to bring the Amiga community the Best of Gremlin. The Best of Gremlin will contains over twenty five of Gremlins top Amiga titles on one CD. Here is a list of the full games you should expect..... Disposable Hero - Harlequin - HATE - Impossamole K240 - Litil Divil - Premier Manager - Premier Manager2 - Premier Manager 3 -Editor Shadow Fighter - Super Cars 2 - Switchblade2 Techno Cop - Top Gear2 - VenusFlyTrap -Zool - Zool2 - Utopia These should also be on the CD...Dark Fusion - Butcher Hill - Combo Racer FOFT - Pegasus - Plan9 From Outer Space Skidz - VideoKid - Super Cars - Suspicious Cargo - Vampires Empire They will all be full games in their original form, where we can both ecs and AGA versions of a game will be on the CD. The CD will retail at £29.99 but you can pre-order from Epic Marketing at £25.00 each. http://www.islona.co.uk *** End of forwarded message *** Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know how many communities live at ONElist? http://www.ONElist.com More than 140,000 with nearly 1,000 new ones joining each day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 08 19:22:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA30918 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:58:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 4030 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 18:59:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3943 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 18:59:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 18:59:38 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.183] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AC86BFC702A0; Sat, 08 May 1999 19:03:50 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:22:50 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.2014447944.6" Subject: [just-amiga] Moonbases (fwd) X-UIDL: beb5761541ec4d2c6ca4dff4ce643be2 Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text. To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader. --BOUNDARY.2014447944.6 Content-Type: text/plain Alive Mediasoft news.... *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: steven flowers Written on: 02-May-99 *** Beginning of forwarded message *** Hello, As you may have read on our web site this week, Alive mediasoft have signed up a brand new game called Moonbases. This is a futuristic war strategy game by a group of talented people who go by the name of Homegrown Software. The game is now complete and has already received some good publicity, so the planned release date is May 18th. Following much success with The Prophet, Alive will be investing heavily in game publishing. After much deliberation, we have decided that our future games will no longer be released on floppy disk, all projects are CD only. In another effort to keep the Amiga with the times, we are pushing our development teams to write for graphics cards and PPC. Alive's game schedule is as follows:- CD catalogue 1.3 Out Now The Prophet Out Now Moonbases May 18th Phoenix Fighters June 99 Goal! 2000 July 99 Putty Squad A little tricky. Could be in two days or two months but definately still to come Haunted TBA Thanks for your time, and we look forward to hearing from you soon. Kind regards Steven Flowers Director. 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Sat May 08 21:15:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10464 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:15:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 17032 invoked by alias); 8 May 1999 20:16:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17004 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 20:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 May 1999 20:16:34 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-028.enterprise.net [194.72.196.148]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA19387 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:17:01 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:15:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk 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(WORKS :) ) X-UIDL: b53d21760d4b7b1f96f2dfcbd4ef1809 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Why was your name Andrew Crane in AF readers games :)? Because *SOMEONE *in AF was obviously drunk on the job. I don't really care though, because they got the name right on the cheque ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. 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Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Moonbases (fwd) X-UIDL: e4ccd9404d31414ba5005f8eb7347392 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 08-May-99, you wrote: > As you may have read on our web site this week, Alive mediasoft have > signed > up a brand new game called Moonbases. This is a futuristic war strategy > game by a group of talented people who go by the name of Homegrown > Software. The game is now complete and has already received some good > publicity, so the planned release date is May 18th. Isn't that the same moonbases with the naff graphics that was in the AF reader games? if you're gonna sell it then it had better be one helluva lot better than the on on the coverdisk!!!! Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan "Oh no, not again!" -- Bowl of Petunias ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention Star Wars fans! http://www.onelist.com ONElist is the best place for your Star Wars list! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 08 23:05:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15319 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:37:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 13066 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 10:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13057 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 10:38:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 10:38:46 -0000 Received: from modem-72.name33.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.176.72] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gQz0-0000Gm-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:38:55 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Promises (fwd) X-UIDL: 51ee728e4c27eb12d4f01116017090b8 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 08-May-99, you wrote: > The Best of Gremlin will contains over twenty five of Gremlins top > Amiga titles on one CD. > They will all be full games in their original form, where we can both > ecs and AGA versions of a game will be on the CD. The CD will retail at > £29.99 but you can pre-order from Epic Marketing at £25.00 each. There is 1 deciding factor for me, will the games run from the cd or will it be a DMS file jobbie? even moreso, have they been AGA and accelerator fixed so that they will actually run on a modern system? I can't boot without my accelerator, and no accelerator = no CD drive.... -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan No, no butthead no I can't settle down! - Beavis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.onelist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Sun May 09 00:07:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA20249 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:43:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 29125 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 00:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 28970 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 00:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-02.core.theplanet.net) (195.92.192.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 00:43:56 -0000 Received: from modem17.byers.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.239.17] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-02.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10gHhn-0002DS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:44:31 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 01:07:43 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Where can I find?2 X-UIDL: e8cd07e235771c53b4f7504f50e23527 From: kevin gill >> We have our telephone books with telephone addresses >> Would anybody take on a massive job on creating a >> www. magerzine. with www sites. >> The www sites could be collected on onelist.com, >> stating the adddress and a short discripion. > > I would be happy to host this but not actually make it, if you > are interested in making it then i'll put it up at my space . So if your interested indoing the actual work i'll host it. > >> Or have you any ideas on a www. directory? >> Or is there one now? > Amiga web directory (All sites amiga related) www.cucug.org/amiga.html > > All websites (Generally worldwide sites) www.yahoo.com or www.yahoo.co.uk > or www.lycos.com etc. Thanks for replying Chris,I do not have the know how . But an email on site for Amiga www.sites with short comments ie:- games utils, progs etc could be put on AIO. All these could be found by using a search for people surfing wanting the said games/utils/progs etc as in your email named {Just Amiga} Have you made. The trouble with yahoo/cucug org etc is not just amiga but lots of PC stuff, and sites out of date. Yes this could be massive but all Amiga users would use it. The CU Magazine has now gone but AF still lives, could there be a sister magazine containing the emails advertising Amiga sites? I'm sure that people would love thier site in it, and could fill many pages. Also I hate it when you go to a site then have to goto several other locations to find what you want. > Regards! Bi for now Kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the Star Wars craze! http://www.onelist.com Set up your Star Wars list at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Sun May 09 02:04:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20052 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:05:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 26385 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 11:06:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26380 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 11:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 11:06:35 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-7.digital.net [208.14.41.7]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA01458 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Rich Holtzschue Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 07:04:28 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <926000406@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Name that program X-UIDL: 4a9f0a201d7f6c781c71da138a786e08 From: Ken These are the words I've used to find the program on aminet. I think it's a 'recent' upload in the last year. alias name commod commodi multi. What the program is 1st it's a commodity. It's a very small program. You know how everyone has a different text viewer or sound/gfx player than you. What this program attempts to do (and does fairly well) is ie: you get a program requiring Muchmore. You prefer textview. Don't even have muchmore on the drive. Rather than editing every single icon youfind calling muchmore, you use the progam I'm looking for. It intercepts calls to 'muchmore' and redirects them to textview. Ditto with any other program you might run across. calls to SYS:utilities/amigaguide send to multiview. Anyone happen to be using this program, and maybe can provide the name of the archive ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sun May 09 08:52:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA26714 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:25:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 7247 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 08:26:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7234 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 08:26:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 08:26:28 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m002-p044.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.240.108]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id UAA00087; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:26:32 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 19:52:35 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] TitleBar X-UIDL: 7fb35f64f85fda4e1e8045d1ecced618 From: Rick Giles Wshell is not on aminet. Anybody got it? This program is supposed to allow access to the wb screen from a shell window. Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- 23) In the movies, cars will explode in all accidents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sun May 09 10:18:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA24410 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:00:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 17062 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 18:00:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17004 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 18:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 18:00:51 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p010.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.74]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id GAA23610; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:01:14 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 21:18:49 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Printer Commands X-UIDL: a679d38df1b83c848d03c7e37ec46746 From: Rick Giles How can I make the printer wind in reverse? Dudes, I know you can tell the printer what to print from shell by saying: "copy system:spaces to prt:" And for me this is useful, because "system:spaces" is a text file full of nothing. My printer is told to make that copy in the morning so that the printer turns around at that time- taking the light-switch with it and so wakeing me up! So what more could there be to know? Well there's this! How can I make the printer wind in reverse? -- 26) In the movies, teenagers are always smarter than their parents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.onelist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Sun May 09 13:04:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05691 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:02:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 28247 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 13:03:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28241 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 13:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.204) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 13:03:27 -0000 Received: from modem103.skinner.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.235.103] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10gTF7-0006rx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:03:42 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:04:21 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: 07d7f0f3a761c123fa9a4db371b6cd34 From: kevin gill Hello, I n my email I recieved a letter ,the return address was warker@women.com says to go to http//:209.224.4.139. for free downloads. 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE 2 the return address is false. 3 the site is MAC + PC and inactive These must be stopped HOW? Kind regards Kev... ( collector of cardsets for klondike ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.onelist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun May 09 13:17:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07418 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:16:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 12467 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 13:17:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12460 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 13:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 13:17:45 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.83] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10gTOy-0005JU-00; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:13:54 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:17:53 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Raichu X-Zero-Hour: in 602 days, 9 hours, 42 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: 2396bf18207c11cddfd0e912ac93efe8 From: Stephen Williams kevin gill wrote: > I n my email I recieved a letter ,the return address was > warker@women.com says to go to http//:209.224.4.139. > for free downloads. > > 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE It's lying. If it's unsolicited bulk email, it's spam and should be treated as such. > 2 the return address is false. A typical hallmark of spam. > These must be stopped HOW? http://www.abuse.net/ has a lot of information about how to fight spam. Basically, you have to examine the "Received:" headers of the spam (some of which may well be forged) to determine where the message really came from, then send a copy of the message (including full headers) to the postmaster of the originating network. I won't go into detail, as the abuse.net site has a lot more information and can explain things better than I can. You might also want to sent the full message to postmaster@women.com and report that a spammer is using an address on their system as a return address. Hope that helped, -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: Where Star Wars fans unite! http://www.onelist.com Find your Star Wars list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Sun May 09 13:36:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11053 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:34:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 8780 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 13:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8771 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 13:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-02.core.theplanet.net) (195.92.192.12) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 13:36:36 -0000 Received: from modem81.scully.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.234.209] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-02.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10gTkb-0006RC-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:36:13 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: d358061ac9b559044202449598aa816b From: kevin gill Hello Stephen On 09-May-99, you wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > kevin gill wrote: >> I n my email I recieved a letter ,the return address was >> warker@women.com says to go to http//:209.224.4.139. >> for free downloads. >> >> 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE > > It's lying. If it's unsolicited bulk email, it's spam and should > be treated as such. > >> 2 the return address is false. > > A typical hallmark of spam. > >> These must be stopped HOW? > > http://www.abuse.net/ has a lot of information about how to fight > spam. Basically, you have to examine the "Received:" headers of the > spam (some of which may well be forged) to determine where the message > really came from, then send a copy of the message (including full > headers) to the postmaster of the originating network. I won't go > into detail, as the abuse.net site has a lot more information and can > explain things better than I can. > > You might also want to sent the full message to postmaster@women.com > and report that a spammer is using an address on their system as a > return address. > > Hope that helped, > > -Stephen thanks Stephen will do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to learn more about your list users? http://www.onelist.com Now you can with our new User Survey Tool - see homepage for details ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun May 09 13:43:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA01576 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:43:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 2417 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 12:45:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2409 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 12:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 12:45:30 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max05-018.enterprise.net [194.72.197.18]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14190 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:45:08 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:43:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Promises (fwd) X-UIDL: a1113ed79cb1102760d7be3064f35397 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> The Best of Gremlin will contains over twenty five of Gremlins top >> Amiga titles on one CD. > >> They will all be full games in their original form, where we can both >> ecs and AGA versions of a game will be on the CD. The CD will retail at >> £29.99 but you can pre-order from Epic Marketing at £25.00 each. > > There is 1 deciding factor for me, will the games run from the cd or will > it be a DMS file jobbie? even moreso, have they been AGA and accelerator > fixed so that they will actually run on a modern system? I can't boot > without my accelerator, and no accelerator = no CD drive.... I guess they've just been installed on the CD with those various hard drive installers/fixers availible on aminet, so they /should/ work. I don't actually know though, its just that that would be the easiest option for them, so I presume thats how they did it. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I did *not* have a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, but I'll admit this, I /did/ splash out on a new dress. -- Bill Clinton ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know that http://www.ONElist.com More than 3.5 million people are using ONElist? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 09 15:27:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA32211 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:32:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 22696 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 18:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22689 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 18:34:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.23) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 18:34:49 -0000 Received: from modem-239.name67.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.193.239] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gYP0-0003di-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:34:14 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:27:40 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Name that program X-UIDL: 55d728ddb753606c0793faf78dae7404 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Ken On 09-May-99, you wrote: > It intercepts calls to 'muchmore' and redirects them to textview. > Ditto with any other program you might run across. > calls to SYS:utilities/amigaguide send to multiview. > Anyone happen to be using this program, and maybe can provide the name of > the archive ? MCP does this and a whole lot more, its in the tools alias section I think Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan I find that very disturbing - Calvin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The possibilities are endless! http://www.onelist.com ONElist has something for everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sun May 09 17:13:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA15428 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:10:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 25843 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 17:12:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25834 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 17:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 17:12:42 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1241 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:13:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] TitleBar X-UIDL: d01541c84886b34201b72be6f051b627 From: Pat Kushko On Sun, 9 May 1999, Rick Giles wrote: > From: Rick Giles > > Wshell is not on aminet. Anybody got it? This program is supposed to allow > access to the wb screen from a shell window. Hi Rick Wshell is/was a commercial program written by W. Hawes (if I remember correctly). It replaced the Amiga dos shell and consol, with a shell that gave features such as file name completion, menu's, scroll back buffer, and many rexx features. Over time, other replacement shell's have appeared on Aminet with most of these features. Wshell, for many users that considered workbench buggy, an alternative system to access menu's etc. and Wshell can be moved through screens, but I don't think it will directly replace all the functions of WB. Confusing? well maybe, but it should give you a bit of fun trying to achieve your goal. Pat. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily. http://www.ONElist.com ONElist is truly helping connect the world! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sun May 09 17:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18301 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:27:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 27948 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 17:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27941 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 17:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.64.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 17:29:01 -0000 Received: from [148.176.238.118] (helo=e2c10p54.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10gXNR-0007VW-00; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:28:33 +0100 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: Me, organised. hah ha ha Date: 9 May 99 18:24:18 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: 454ac35562fad868ef6b2aca6d848406 From: "Richard Lane" Hi kevin gill, In reference to "[just-amiga] Spam", > From: kevin gill > > Hello, > I n my email I recieved a letter ,the return address was > warker@women.com says to go to http//:209.224.4.139. > for free downloads. > > 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE Complete rubbish, it is SPAM! > 2 the return address is false. Surprize, surprize. :) > 3 the site is MAC + PC and inactive Probably run from a Commodore VIC 20 :) > > These must be stopped HOW? Highlight offending email in folder and hit delete. Seriously though, I Personally wouldn't waste my time and money trying to find who sent this rubbish. IMHO it's realy not worth the bother. If you send back a reply to the remove address you'll more than likely get another load of spam as the sender now knows that this is a valid address. On average I get about 20 spam mails a week, which out of the 3000 plus emails from mailing lists etc. I get a week is not too bad. I probably get more junk mail than this through snail mail, now that really bugs me, what a waste of paper. And as for the idiots who ring me up doing surveys for double glazing companies.. AARRRRRRRRRR. Just tell them you're a rabbit and you don't have any windows in your burrow :) confuses the hell out of them. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you know how many communities live at ONElist? http://www.ONElist.com More than 140,000 with nearly 1,000 new ones joining each day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Sun May 09 18:05:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21910 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:18:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 18744 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 20:20:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 18736 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:20:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:20:34 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07986 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:20:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Sun, 09 May 99 13:05:00 -0500 Message-ID: <926260455@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-Mailer: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT CRS K/S X-FTN-PID: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] WShell X-UIDL: 320cfff7df88bb043e876b5b2c86eac1 From: Rich Holtzschue Greets- From: Rick Giles RG> Wshell is not on aminet. Anybody got it? This program is supposed to RG> allow access to the wb screen from a shell window. Our group has 2.0 in our collection of stuff. Probably not on Aminet due to the fact that it is (was?) commercial s'ware. Don't know what it's status is now. The approx 114 page manual indicates it is by Wishful Thinking Development Corp. I'd have to check with our group to see if they want to sell it. Mayhap someone on the list knows if it has been donated to the public. _rich_ AmigaLine BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* WARNING: No user serviceable parts in the light at the end of the tunnel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Sun May 09 18:37:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21917 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:18:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 8240 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 20:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8194 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 20:19:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 20:19:40 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08024 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:20:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Sun, 09 May 99 13:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: <926255327@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-Mailer: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT CRS K/S X-FTN-PID: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Alias? X-UIDL: 5b86e7cc76ebea6558ed0ee1b866f7a4 From: Rich Holtzschue From: Ken K> These are the words I've used to find the program on aminet. I think K> it's 'recent' upload in the last year. K> alias name commod commodi multi. K> Rather than editing every single icon youfind calling muchmore, you use K> the progam I'm looking for. K> It intercepts calls to 'muchmore' and redirects them to textview. K> Ditto with any other program you might run across. K> Anyone happen to be using this program, and maybe can provide the name K> of the archive ? Would someone tell me the advantage of this over just giving the prog in question an alias? Seems to me all you nave to do is put "alias muchmore textview" in your user-startup. Much less use of system resources thus less overhead. _rich_ AmigaLine BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* DANGER: Do not look directly into the light at the end of the tunnel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to learn more about your list users? http://www.onelist.com Now you can with our new User Survey Tool - see homepage for details ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Sun May 09 19:28:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10083 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:26:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 7416 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 19:27:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7366 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 19:27:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 19:27:27 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gZEu-000Liw-0C for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:27:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3735E1D6.25016440@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:28:22 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printing Woes.. X-UIDL: cb7538a8073b29b8c23cfc041f6a1377 From: Alan Gryniewicz > I've had a Star LC-200 for years, its an old Dot Matrix printer that > takes a year to print but at the moment I can't afford to upgrade and > its not in that much use to warrent an upgrade. > I've recently been having problems with printin using Final Writer 97. > Sometimes the printer will just cut out and stop, a wiggle of the cable > to the printer sometimes gets it going again or switching off the > printer and on again will also sometimes make it carry on. Other times > or most of the time I have to reset and start again, this time it may > work fully or stop.. it really is random. Sounds like a printer driver problem to me.... Simple text prints fine with the generic driver but more complex print matter would need a dedicated driver... Which one are you using at the moment? C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... Alan Gryniewicz [zYX!/A51]: :. / / |: / / // /__ / / | / ___ \ :. :....alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk:: : / /| |:/ / // ___// /| | \__ \\ \ :...:...:.. . : ... .:. ::. ..: / __ |/ _ \ \__/ __ | /___// /.A51hQ SiTE[#---------]-10%c0MPLeTE /_/:.|___/ \_/\_____/.:|_|:.. /_/ :.. .http://www.a51krew.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sun May 09 19:47:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA30194 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:28:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 1257 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 17:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 1211 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:30:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:30:01 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p035.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.99]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with SMTP id FAA11340; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:29:30 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Pat Kushko Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:47:15 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] TitleBar X-UIDL: 22e4fa54105373b6cc7edb56de09e878 From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Pat Kushko wrote on 10-May-99: |>Wshell is/was a commercial program written by W. Hawes (if I |>remember correctly). It replaced the Amiga dos shell and consol, with a I see. Well I'll keep looking for this program, I got it off a bbs a while ago. It'll be around. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- 26) In the movies, teenagers are always smarter than their parents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Star Wars fans are using ONElist to share the fun. http://www.ONElist.com Are you? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun May 09 21:24:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA31887 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:23:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 12781 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 21:25:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12775 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 21:25:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 21:25:23 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.146] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10gazx-000244-00; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:20:33 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Electabuzz X-Zero-Hour: in 602 days, 1 hours, 35 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] How to quit? X-UIDL: 478022a3cd7439a1a2e26750951616a8 From: Stephen Williams Martin Persson wrote: > Hi there! > > If I want to quit this just-amiga mailing list, how should I do? Send a gazillion messages to the list, all with "AMIGA SUX" in the body. This will annoy Chris, who will remove you in the blink of an eye ;-) -Stephen (joking, before anyone says anything) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's "Grow to Give"? http://www.onelist.com It's a new incentive program at ONElist. See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From lairfight@softhome.net Sun May 09 21:41:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01557 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:38:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 14911 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 21:39:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14904 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maile.telia.com) (194.22.190.16) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (LFt@t2o68p119.telia.com [62.20.138.239]) by maile.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA23376 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:40:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Linus Akesson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 23:41:53 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] How to quit? X-UIDL: 7f17fdbd19b44ea77014651a448a28b9 From: Linus Akesson On 10-May-99, you wrote: > From: Martin Persson > Hi there! > If I want to quit this just-amiga mailing list, how should I do? Ask Hilda. =) Or check one of the last posts in: http://www.onelist.com/viewarchive.cgi?listname=just%2Damiga&archive=194.gz Linus -- wwww (o)(O) .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://linusworld.cjb.net | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' Life is wonderful. Without it, you wouldn't know me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Who offers the richest group communications tools on the Internet? http://www.onelist.com Answer: ONElist. 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X-UIDL: 87868d0f25696e84b8e7448639315bd7 From: Martin Persson Hi there! If I want to quit this just-amiga mailing list, how should I do? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@free4all.co.uk Sun May 09 22:24:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA09094 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:55:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 30416 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 01:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 30102 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 01:58:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (195.44.54.75) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 01:58:01 -0000 Received: by mail.jakinternet.co.uk from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Sun, 09 May 1999 22:21:37 +0100 Received: from free4all.co.uk [212.41.33.238] by mail.jakinternet.co.uk [195.44.54.75] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with SMTP id 9D67B95A064011D399F7006067311B2C for ; Sun, 09 May 1999 22:21:31 0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 22:24:21 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SLUIDL: 8C4924AD-066211D3-99F80060-67311B2C Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 9ef8c62a798392b6b97aa63400c225e9 From: Nik Williams Hi ya, I have just joined a new ISP that provides free access via 0800 (UK ONLY) numbers. 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See ya -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From triadian_uk@yahoo.com Sun May 09 23:26:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18391 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:24:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 6296 invoked by alias); 9 May 1999 23:25:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6289 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 23:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web602.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.68.166) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 May 1999 23:25:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509232631.23722.rocketmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.250.68.8] by web602.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 09 May 1999 16:26:31 PDT Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Ison To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Name that program X-UIDL: 43bf9e7f7f9892634dc4e046c200a412 From: Ian Ison --- Ken wrote: > Anyone happen to be using this program, and maybe > can provide the name of the > archive ? ________ /riadian Says : ToolAlias102.lha util/boot 20K 320 Substitute loadseg'd programs with others _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The possibilities are endless! http://www.onelist.com ONElist has something for everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Mon May 10 00:44:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA30116 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:42:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 16690 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 00:44:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16356 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 00:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sheppard.torfree.net) (199.71.188.24) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 00:44:15 -0000 Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1192 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Name that program X-UIDL: 82dcf971d2bfd2753d519fc240573e90 From: Pat Kushko On Sun, 9 May 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote: > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Ken > > On 09-May-99, you wrote: > > It intercepts calls to 'muchmore' and redirects them to textview. > > Ditto with any other program you might run across. > > > calls to SYS:utilities/amigaguide send to multiview. > > > Anyone happen to be using this program, and maybe can provide the name of > > the archive ? > > > MCP does this and a whole lot more, its in the tools alias section I think REPLEX2.LHA also does this sort of thing. -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon May 10 00:49:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30253 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 23600 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 14:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23594 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 14:13:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 14:13:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10876 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 14:12:51 -0000 Received: from tnt-6-237.easynet.co.uk (195.40.201.237) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 10 May 1999 14:12:51 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 10 May 99 00:49:57 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] How to quit? X-UIDL: ed86d574ccf89af399f7ea4c6c6e7794 From: "Andy Kinsella" Linus Akesson said this... > From: Linus Akesson > > On 10-May-99, you wrote: > > > From: Martin Persson > > > Hi there! > > > If I want to quit this just-amiga mailing list, how should I do? > > Ask Hilda. =) Or check one of the last posts in: Hehe, that was a good one 8) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon May 10 00:55:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30249 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 1106 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 14:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1100 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 14:13:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 14:13:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10879 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 14:12:53 -0000 Received: from tnt-6-237.easynet.co.uk (195.40.201.237) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 10 May 1999 14:12:53 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 10 May 99 00:55:10 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] AIO.CO.UK X-UIDL: 1b8f8e2457a18b44094e03dc26d490be From: "Andy Kinsella" Greetings, I've just had the chance to check out www.aio.co.uk. My first impression...No ALT text for the Images!!! I tend to browse with Images turned off because I don't want to waste time waiting for them to download when all I want to do is read the textual content of the site. I reckon it's good form to add alt-text so folks like me don't have to load the images, or hover the mouse over an image link to find out where it'll take us 8) Get it sorted! ;) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Mon May 10 01:02:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22448 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:03:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 22843 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 10:05:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22835 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 10:05:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 10:05:00 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-27.digital.net [208.14.41.27]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA27677 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Rich Holtzschue Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:02:53 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <926255327@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Alias? X-UIDL: 801b99e1ba73d4a1fc04a12d2e37be91 From: Ken > Would someone tell me the advantage of this over just giving the prog >in question an alias? Seems to me all you nave to do is put >"alias muchmore textview" in your user-startup. Much less use of system >resources thus less overhead. Well for design purposes, the above would be best, if it 1st modded the alias file and added what you want aliased. Then made it take effect immediately as it does now. The one I found, all it did was made it current without need for a reboot or assign being made. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Mon May 10 01:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22553 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:08:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 26622 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 10:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26617 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 10:09:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 10:09:39 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-tnt-27.digital.net [208.14.41.27]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA28048 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:09:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Ian Ison Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:07:11 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990509232631.23722.rocketmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Name that program X-UIDL: df6dcf3141c9b7d4d2805194ef951434 From: Ken >/riadian Says : ToolAlias102.lha util/boot 20K 320 Substitute >loadseg'd programs with others Yeah finally found it when I found out it when I used tool and alias. I have no idea how I ran across it on set 1a... Thats a real oldy/moldy. Maybe it was one of those daily aminet NEW barfs that was happening randomly awhile back. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Mon May 10 01:19:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA04376 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:19:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 13799 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 01:20:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13791 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 01:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 01:20:19 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay0191248.acay.com.au [203.19.124.8]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13825 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <3736340B.C885F155@acay.com.au> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:07 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: 4ca84a1b14df68400159d6c707971ffa From: Frank Bunton G'Day all kevin gill wrote: > Hello, > I n my email I recieved a letter ,the return address was > warker@women.com says to go to http//:209.224.4.139. > for free downloads. > > 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE > 2 the return address is false. > 3 the site is MAC + PC and inactive > > These must be stopped HOW? You go to:- http://spamcop.net/ and in the place indicated you paste in the complete spam e-mail together with all headings and they will follow it through. Much better than replying to a false removal address!! -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Mon May 10 07:53:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25121 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:54:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 8805 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 17:00:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8767 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc2-66.digital.net [204.215.229.66]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA28032 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:55:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: just-amiga Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:53:43 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] imagine camera X-UIDL: 605026690082f07a6c5b97d9a26ba71c From: Ken Can someone explain in 'Imagine for Dummies' simplified langauge how I can easily get the camera to actually LOCK and HOLD like as if it were on a tripod ? What I've done so far (simple enough) is to take a tube, take an IFF and wrap it around Z axis then spun the tube for 29 frames. Objects in pix are 2 lights (beside the camera) aimed at tube 1 tube 1 ground I added a path for awhile there, but that just moved the tube all over the place. I used the stage editor to physically move the tube wqith camer lines on, AMiga K to track, What I get is an amateur photographers nightmare. All the heads are chopped off. I've changed the FOV from 55 to 90. I've tried sticking the camera directly in front of the tube, but still can't get a real full screen of the rotating tube. I'd like the tube to FILL the picture. But what I get is maybe a 1/4 sized tube (still full sized) but only takes up 1/4 of the scene. the other 3/4's of picture is background and ground.. I'd be happy with no background or ground. I only added the ground as a reference anyways. Using the action editor, I've used track to tube, still only get the bottom 7/8's of the tube.. What I have in mind is something like an animated cartoon, where one revolution displays one IFF, next picks up a 2nd etc.. But till I can get the camera to lock, and the tube to fill the screen, I'm wasting my time moving past the 1st pix... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get involved. Share your thoughts! http://www.onelist.com Join the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Mon May 10 08:31:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA28960 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:31:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 19486 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 07:32:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19463 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 07:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anduril.Austria.EU.net) (193.154.160.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 07:32:51 -0000 Received: from kbn2.kb-endlos.com ([193.228.86.5]) by anduril.Austria.EU.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21916 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:32:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Received: by kbn2.kb-endlos.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4125676D.002F27B1 ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:35:03 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KBE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <4125676D.002DE25F.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:31:25 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Antwort: [just-amiga] First Post! X-UIDL: 441acc0995885807bd1ea0d09a133857 From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Hi there from Austria Rudolf Rager Visit http://www.kb-endlos.com if you wanna know where I write my eMails ;-) A1200 TowerhawkEx+OnBoard1200Ex Blizzard 603e/240/40/25+40MB Fast Winner IDE/Fast ATA2 Controller Conner 240 MB + IBM 8,4 GB Piccolo 2MB+CybergraphX 4.0 Prelude+Samplitude Opus 3.5 Mitsumi FX400+AlphaData CD1200 PCMCIA-Controller 17"LG Monitor+AmiscanFF Commodore MPS 1200 Printer Microdeal MIDI-Interface AlphaData Handscanner Yamaha CS1x Roland RD 100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Mon May 10 10:18:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14840 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:18:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 17313 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 09:20:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 17011 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 09:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anduril.Austria.EU.net) (193.154.160.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 09:20:12 -0000 Received: from kbn2.kb-endlos.com ([193.228.86.5]) by anduril.Austria.EU.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA05479 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Received: by kbn2.kb-endlos.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4125676D.0038F71A ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:22:12 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KBE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <4125676D.0031888B.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:18:29 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Antwort: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: af38694c7232c019fcacfbb37454aeb6 From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Hi there! To get the maximum audio-quality, upgrade your Amiga with a 16bit soundcard (I´m a proud owner of a PreludeZII). I made a test sample in Samplitude Opus in 8bit 27 khz and replayed it first via Prelude, then via Paula. The difference is incredible! I also tried a XM-Module, first by using DeliTracker (Module and Delitracker on AmiNet Set 7) with Paula-output, then via Digibooster 2.20 Demo in Prelude Stereo 44,1 khz: same result as above! As there are several Boards for non-Zorro-systems, upgrading should be no problem. It is the same story as with GFX-boards: Once installed, you´ll never want to give it away anymore :-) rEgArDs A1200 TowerhawkEx+OnBoard1200Ex Blizzard 603e/240/40/25+40MB Fast Winner IDE/Fast ATA2 Controller Conner 240 MB + IBM 8,4 GB Piccolo 2MB+CybergraphX 4.0 Prelude+Samplitude Opus 3.5 Mitsumi FX400+AlphaData CD1200 PCMCIA-Controller 17"LG Monitor+AmiscanFF Commodore MPS 1200 Printer Microdeal MIDI-Interface AlphaData Handscanner Yamaha CS1x Roland RD 100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the Member Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Mon May 10 11:28:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA30058 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:34:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 25617 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 20:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 25557 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 20:36:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 20:36:15 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc6-71.digital.net [208.14.38.71]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26312 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:36:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: "Matthew O'Neill" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:28:28 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] imagine camera X-UIDL: ced6777950f0fb2d82d47644db36c311 From: Ken >Righty first of all you don't have to have the camera track to the object. >You can just go into the stage editor and move the camera about (you'll see >the box representation in the top right) If you really want to track to the Thats why I asked for 'dummies guide to imagine' explanation.. I just hadn't accepted the camera as an object and didn't think about using the x,y,z axis to rotate the stupid thing. I just figured out of the box, the camera SHOULD have defaulted to level... Fiddlin I played with the x,y,z and finally got all I'd asked except for the assigning keys ie:modifying the menu to add an amiga symbol next to keys that I can add ie: if Amiga N had not been taken already for something else in the stage editor, I'd have gone ahead and assigned it to single step thru the quick movie, made it permanent so I wouldn't need to keep pulling the menu down to see what was what. But best I could get was Amiga F4 and a toggle button. Would be better if I could make it a permanent part of a menu. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Mon May 10 16:07:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA17625 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:05:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 21395 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 16:07:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 21387 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-01.core.theplanet.net) (195.92.192.11) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:07:26 -0000 Received: from modem31.scully.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.234.159] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-01.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10gsa2-0003zc-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:06:59 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 497ed9401ea2a04c181a50b29d9729e6 From: kevin gill Hello Nik On 09-May-99, you wrote: > From: Nik Williams > > Hi ya, > I have just joined a new ISP that provides free access via > 0800 (UK ONLY) numbers. The web site address is #www.freecall-uk.com# if > any of you decide to join please don't forget to type my name `Nik > Williams' as the referal when you sign up. Cheers. > > See ya this is a good thing if it gets going but it ask you to send emails to 4 others about it. This is the chain effect. Bi for now Kev -- klondikeAGA@onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kevin@reko.karoo.co.uk Mon May 10 16:25:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA20200 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:23:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 20007 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 16:24:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19891 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 16:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net) (194.152.65.204) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 16:24:07 -0000 Received: from modem31.scully.kingston-internet.net ([195.92.234.159] helo=reko.karoo.co.uk ident=kar8tdw2) by svr-a-04.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10gsqz-00028U-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:24:29 +0100 From: kevin gill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:25:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 120bba5a27aafc8b29e919ab50a9566f From: kevin gill Hello kevin On 10-May-99, you wrote: > From: kevin gill > > Hello Nik > > On 09-May-99, you wrote: > >> From: Nik Williams >> >> Hi ya, >> I have just joined a new ISP that provides free access via >> 0800 (UK ONLY) numbers. The web site address is #www.freecall-uk.com# if >> any of you decide to join please don't forget to type my name `Nik >> Williams' as the referal when you sign up. Cheers. >> >> See ya > this is a good thing if it gets going but it ask you to send emails to 4 > others about it. This is the chain effect. Sorry sent the above a bit quick, is this the 0800 where you have to send emails to 4 others to do the chain effect? > Bi for now Kev Bi for now Kev -- klondikeAGA@onelist.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 10 18:18:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22545 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:55:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 28380 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 19:56:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28369 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 19:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 19:56:05 -0000 Received: from modem-68.name41.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.180.68] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gwAC-0000Wx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:56:33 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:18:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] imagine camera X-UIDL: a1088b83f231832c9ba5b014d97b7e99 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Ken On 10-May-99, you wrote: > I'd like the tube to FILL the picture. But what I get is maybe a 1/4 sized > tube (still full sized) but only takes up 1/4 of the scene. the other > 3/4's of picture is background and ground.. I'd be happy with no > background or ground. I only added the ground as a reference anyways. > Using the action editor, I've used track to tube, still only get the > bottom 7/8's of the tube.. Righty first of all you don't have to have the camera track to the object. You can just go into the stage editor and move the camera about (you'll see the box representation in the top right) If you really want to track to the object though I'm guessing the axis isn't in the centre. The camera will aim diurectly at this. Goto the detail editor and load the object. Now select it. There should be an axis there somewhere. Click on the SHIFT or SHFT button at the bottom, this tell you that it will only move the axis. now click on the move utton and you will be able to move the axis about. Better still, just join the imagine mailing list, all the creators of imagine are there to help all the time :) Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan "God said, "Let Newton be!" and all was light." Pope ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From triadian_uk@yahoo.com Mon May 10 18:45:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10123 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:44:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 29072 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 18:45:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29054 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 18:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web603.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.68.167) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 18:45:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510184537.22852.rocketmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.250.68.61] by web603.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:45:37 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Ison To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 3dd33dc645db9818c63479070f995712 From: Ian Ison --- kevin gill wrote: > From: kevin gill > KG > Hello Nik KG > On 09-May-99, NW wrote: NW > Hi ya, NW > I have just joined a new ISP that provides free access via NW > 0800 (UK ONLY) numbers. The web site address is #www.freecall-uk.com# NW > See ya KG > this is a good thing if it gets going but it ask you to send emails to 4 KG > others about it. This is the chain effect. KG > Bi for now Kev I`m Just About Getting Sick Of Reading Them Too !!!! I`m In So Many Mailing Lists And Newsgroups And There Are Just So ANNOYING Can Everyone STOP Sending Them EVERYWHERE If Anyone Has The Number Why Dont We All Just Ring It Or Would That Be Considered As Hacking ???? ________ /riadian. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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I need some help before I throw my Amiga out of the window. I have set up a website for MIDI files, but when I download them my browser displays a load of garbage on the screen, this is the link I used Ain't Seen Nothing Yet Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24802 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:24:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 10585 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 23:26:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10562 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 23:26:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 23:26:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 21460 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 23:26:00 -0000 Received: from tnt-5-136.easynet.co.uk (195.40.200.136) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 10 May 1999 23:26:00 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 10 May 99 20:59:02 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] imagine camera X-UIDL: ee163b2ff9718a1c77db4a748b331dfe From: "Andy Kinsella" Ken said this... > From: Ken > > Can someone explain in 'Imagine for Dummies' simplified langauge how I can > easily get the camera to actually LOCK and HOLD like as if it were on a tripod > ? > > What I've done so far (simple enough) is to take a tube, take an IFF and wrap > it around Z axis then spun the tube for 29 frames. > > Objects in pix are > > 2 lights (beside the camera) aimed at tube > 1 tube > 1 ground > > I added a path for awhile there, but that just moved the tube all over the > place. > > I used the stage editor to physically move the tube wqith camer lines on, > AMiga K to track, > > What I get is an amateur photographers nightmare. All the heads are chopped > off. > > I've changed the FOV from 55 to 90. > > I've tried sticking the camera directly in front of the tube, but still can't > get a real full screen of the rotating tube. > > I'd like the tube to FILL the picture. But what I get is maybe a 1/4 sized > tube (still full sized) but only takes up 1/4 of the scene. the other 3/4's of > picture is background and ground.. > I'd be happy with no background or ground. I only added the ground as a > reference anyways. > > Using the action editor, I've used track to tube, still only get the bottom > 7/8's of the tube.. > > What I have in mind is something like an animated cartoon, where one > revolution displays one IFF, next picks up a 2nd etc.. But till I can get the > camera to lock, and the tube to fill the screen, I'm wasting my time moving > past the 1st pix... > Hmmm. I'm having a bit of a problem deciphering exactly what you would like to do :) But I'll try to help if I can... The first thing to note is that STAGE and ACTION go hand in hand. i.e. Any changes made in ACTION are carried over to stage, and vice-versa. To "Lock" the camera in positon is pretty simple. Make sure you are in the first frame. Postion the camera to where you like it (Turn on "CAMERA VIEW" in the "display" menu), and set it's alignment to point at the main object in your scene. Select "SAVE CHANGES" from the "PROJECT" menu. The camera will now be locked in the start position for all frames. It WILL NOT move. The reason you only get the bottom of the tube when you use track is because the tubes AXIS is at the bottom of the Tube. Tracking always aligns to the object axis. If you need to track to the centre of the tube, eg. If you want the camera to follow a path around the tube, but still point at the tube (like a satalite orbiting earth), then you can add an empty axis; and position it in the centre of the tube. To this, just go into action and add a new actor in the empty actor bar at the bottom. select "track" from the menu that pops up. Then set that as the object that the camera is aligned to over the 29 frames. IF you never want the camera to move, make sure all the bars (actor, align, size etc.) only occupy frame 1. You can increase/decrease the focal length of the camera by alltering the SIZE parameter in the "transform" requester. Eg. increase X to 640 to give a wide angle. To easily align the camera to point dead ahead. open transform and set alginment to 0.000 for X Y and Z. I hope that's clear enough! anything else you want to know. . . -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Mon May 10 21:35:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07370 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:35:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 9502 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:35:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9468 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=oemcomputer) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10gxi1-0003fl-0K for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:35:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001101be9b2c$fe567da0$605a989e@oemcomputer> From: "Bradley Smith" To: References: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:35:14 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 972009c1e5349d75d336e03798b8f46d From: "Bradley Smith" ----- Original Message ----- From: Nik Williams To: Sent: 10 May 1999 20:25 Subject: [just-amiga] HTML > href="http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk/70s/nothingyet.zip">Ain't > Seen Nothing Yet > What am I doing wrong. My browser will download MIDI files ok from > other sites, but not my own. The HTML seems fine, just make sure you have the closing '>' after the and also make sure that the name of the file has proper case lettering... remember that HTML is CASE SENSITIVE like all programming languages, to an extent. HTH, -- Brad Smith : brad@bradman.demon.co.uk : http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk brad@tekrum.com : ICQ: 14717831 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From malky@nobleone.u-net.com Mon May 10 21:42:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA25408 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:23:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 22893 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 06:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22886 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:24:59 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.235] (helo=p107.nas4.is5.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10h5uG-0006v3-00; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:20:45 +0000 From: "Malcolm Harnden" Organization: A4000 040/40Mhz PPC200Mhz CVPPC User http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Date: 10 May 99 22:42:29 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000130] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 33b59c8ce03c80d47e808363d75fdaaf From: "Malcolm Harnden" This *Amiga PPC* owner and program buyer reply`s to your.... ------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 10 May 1999 19:25:57 +0000 [just-amiga] HTML Hi Nik Williams > From: Nik Williams > > Hi ya, > Are there any HTML experts are here? I need some help before I > throw my Amiga out of the window. > I have set up a website for MIDI files, but when I download them my > browser displays a load of garbage on the screen, this is the link I used > > href="http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk/70s/nothingyet.zip">Ain't > Seen Nothing Yet Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA09848 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:49:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 7196 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7177 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:50:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailg.telia.com) (194.22.194.26) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:50:11 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (LFt@t1o68p12.telia.com [62.20.138.12]) by mailg.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03376 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:50:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Linus Akesson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 9488f307f0703d85ea8a4332461c405f From: Linus Akesson On 10-May-99, you wrote: > From: Nik Williams > Hi ya, > Are there any HTML experts are here? I need some help before I > throw my Amiga out of the window. > I have set up a website for MIDI files, but when I download them my > browser displays a load of garbage on the screen, this is the link I used > href="http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk/70s/nothingyet.zip">Ain't > Seen Nothing Yet What am I doing wrong. My browser will download MIDI files ok from > other sites, but not my own. > See ya > -- > Nik Williams > Peterborough > England Powered by Amiga... That's an error at the http level, not in the html code. The website sends a mime type together with everything it sends. The mime type is usually text/html, image/gif, image/jpeg etc., which the browsers recognize as dislay-in-the-window kind of stuff. If the mime type is application/octet-stream (which is the default type for unknown data), the browser assumes it is some file that should be downloaded to disk. So, the web server sends an incorrect mime type. Linus -- wwww (o)(O) .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://linusworld.cjb.net | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon May 10 22:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04914 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:25:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 6725 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:26:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6448 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:26:21 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-040.enterprise.net [194.72.196.160]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25365 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:26:13 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:24:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 90a142c312ebf86c244c5d159b938e3a From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Are there any HTML experts are here? I need some help before I > throw my Amiga out of the window. > I have set up a website for MIDI files, but when I download them > my browser displays a load of garbage on the screen, this is the link I > used > > href="http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk/70s/nothingyet.zip">Ain't > Seen Nothing Yet > What am I doing wrong. My browser will download MIDI files ok from > other sites, but not my own. Hmmm, I guess its because somewhere along the line a setting (probably with your browser) isn't recognising it as a .zip file and so its just displaying it as text (hence the garbage) There is nothing wrong with your html. To get around this, hold down shift when you click on the link. 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Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Mon May 10 22:47:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07559 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:45:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 31727 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:47:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 31719 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:47:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:47:43 -0000 Received: from ppp-153-13.cvx2.telinco.net ([212.1.159.153] helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10gxqd-0005m8-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:44:27 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:47:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: ebeb82cf481974b16e2c8061b2734254 From: Nik Williams Hello Andrew On 10-May-99, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > Hmmm, I guess its because somewhere along the line a setting (probably > with your browser) isn't recognising it as a .zip file and so its just > displaying it as text (hence the garbage) > > There is nothing wrong with your html. > > To get around this, hold down shift when you click on the link. Yep, that works. But my browser has no trouble recognising zip files on other sites. Well, as long as the html is ok, my first attempt you see ;-) Thanks mate... -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Mon May 10 22:49:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA09784 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:47:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 24517 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:48:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24512 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:48:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:48:52 -0000 Received: from ppp-153-13.cvx2.telinco.net ([212.1.159.153] helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10gxsn-0005pQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:46:42 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:49:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101be9b2c$fe567da0$605a989e@oemcomputer> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: caa3366b3f66d8f67d2190d021268725 From: Nik Williams Hello Bradley On 10-May-99, you wrote: > The HTML seems fine, just make sure you have the closing '>' after the at the end... ie and also make sure that the name of the file has > proper case lettering... remember that HTML is CASE SENSITIVE like all > programming languages, to an extent. I didn.t realise about the case sensitive of files, but I think everything is ok. I just wanted to know if the HTML was right, thanks for checking that. -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Mon May 10 22:59:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA10024 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:57:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 5884 invoked by alias); 10 May 1999 21:59:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 5879 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 21:59:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 May 1999 21:59:36 -0000 Received: from ppp-65-9.cvx1.telinco.net ([212.1.142.65] helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10gy22-00061m-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:56:15 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:59:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: a543e76cf7d7c57ec3a94d5dd5706215 From: Nik Williams Hello Linus On 10-May-99, you wrote: > From: Linus Akesson > > On 10-May-99, you wrote: > That's an error at the http level, not in the html code. The website sends a > mime type together with everything it sends. The mime type is usually > text/html, image/gif, image/jpeg etc., which the browsers recognize as > dislay-in-the-window kind of stuff. If the mime type is > application/octet-stream (which is the default type for unknown data), the > browser assumes it is some file that should be downloaded to disk. So, the > web server sends an incorrect mime type. > That sounds very interesting & makes perfect sense. Any idea what the error could be & what I could do about it? Thanks.. -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From peter@amigauniverse.co.uk Tue May 11 01:11:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA03995 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:35:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 2602 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 00:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2597 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 00:37:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 00:37:25 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.116] (helo=amigauni.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10h0TG-0006rR-00; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:32:30 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:11:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Amiga Universe Organisation Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: ab56e5a7d690651ef5d699e45ba2579d From: Peter Price Nik Williams scribbled with a virtual Biro about [just-amiga] HTML : > What am I doing wrong. My browser will download MIDI files ok from > other sites, but not my own. One of two things - your service provider has badly configured MIME types, or you have. Try holding down SHIFT when you click on the link, that should forego the MIME type and go straight to a download. It often happens with LHA as well, it not being a compression standard like ZIP. Best Regards -- Peter Price - Amiga Universe - http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/ The site that gives you everything. Mirrors. IRC Channel. Mailing List. Administrator - ARCNet, #amigacafe and #amigaUni GUI's, We have to use those extra Mhz's somehow! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Tue May 11 05:53:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA27427 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:32:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 27962 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 06:33:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27950 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:33:54 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2x.magma.ca [206.191.0.220]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10781 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port74.magma.ca [206.191.5.74]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02498 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:53:30 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printer Commands X-UIDL: 1c9688e67ae248281f78008b6e0c9954 From: Jeff Brown > And for me this is useful, because "system:spaces" is a text file > full of nothing. My printer is told to make that copy in the > morning so that the printer turns around at that time- taking > the light-switch with it and so wakeing me up! Nifty!! > How can I make the printer wind in reverse? Disable the line buffer (if possible). Send a bunch of backspaces (ASCII 8) to the printer. Alternately, all you really need to do is send a carriage return or back-tab code to send the carriage back to the left. What kind of printer are you using? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Tue May 11 05:55:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA27467 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:32:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 28167 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 06:33:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 28152 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 06:33:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 06:33:58 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2x.magma.ca [206.191.0.220]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10789 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port74.magma.ca [206.191.5.74]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02505 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printing Woes.. X-UIDL: 859b50132d7b7119335a8bc3bd626948 From: Jeff Brown > The problem sounds like Final Writer but why would switching the > printer on and off make final writer work and also moving the cable > make it work. This makes it sound like a connection but then why does > it not do it with CED? Hmmmm... Wiggling the cable could disconnect the RDY line (IIRC) which will cause the printer to reinitialize itself. Alternately, perhaps the 8th signal line has been damaged. 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And just a bit curious if anyone knows a bit more about it ? I asked if it wasn't true that a3k's were extremely hard on hard drives and the story goes the early ones were fine with the antique drives, which got replaced as technology changed but the same chips that worked fine with the older drives were now killing the new ones. Can anyone confirm this, and maybe shed some light on just what chips need replacing to work with the newer drives ? Actually I had a 1.3 gig SCSI HD that lasted maybe a year with very little trouble then it just seemed to quit altogether. Sent off to softhut. They told me install a new HD and it should work. That was just before all this trouble started. I suspect something was going, and most likely is still just hangging on by a thread, but in the meantime it's eating hard drives. Then I attempted to install a 4 gig SCSI (not going to happen, or rather it didn't happen that drive couldn't even be recognized by hdtools). Went with the Buddha and since that (maybe 3 months now) it's gone thru 2 SCSI 100 meggers, ate one 2.1 gig IDE, there's now a 4 gig Fujitsu IDE installed and it needs to be reinstalled at least weekly. Usually more often. I've taken to making a complete backup of the entire drive so there's not more than a day or two lost. I have the tech manuals from softhut, but they don't really show any output voltages, or expected logic. These are more or less just schematics with names of the chips.. They're definitely not Chiltons... Does anyone else have any leads on good hardware manuals for a3k's ? Or know of a GOOD repairman ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Tue May 11 08:30:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15309 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:50:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 23161 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 11:52:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 23154 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 11:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 11:52:12 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.135.203]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA13872 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:12:07 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:30:06 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 7b630f691845f4dfdebbdaafd1adca45 From: Nik Williams Hello Malcolm On 10-May-99, you wrote: > Do the names your trying to load match the case! This is VERY > important on Unix servers..... Yep, I've double-checked that... -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Tue May 11 08:34:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08686 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:35:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 11146 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 17:36:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11140 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:36:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:36:57 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc6-36.digital.net [208.14.38.36]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16228 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:36:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Colin Wenzel Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:34:07 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A3K HD Eater X-UIDL: 91c4fc49b37a50cd213d3d662a16a439 From: Ken >Firstly, get hold of a digital voltmeter & check your 5 volt & 12 volt >lines from the power supply. >It sounds like you might be a bit on the high side...!! >It should be within half a volt.... It's a fair guess, but not likely in this case. How about movable bad sectors ? Thats what I get off and on now. One minute the sectors bad, hit retry and it's gone. Run the hdtool validate and it finds nothing. run it again and it can't find anything of value. bad drive etc.. I'm still under suspicion of the pioneer cd causing most of the troubles but other than termination I don't see the link.. Right after installing asimcdfs, caught a guru, and lost a partiton because the CD0 in SYS:devs somehow got scrambled. This was one constant. As long as asimcdfs was installed an odd crash would almost always lose a partition the one being written to. I know shouldn't fiddle with plugs with power on.. but Drive itself is dead to begin with, .... SCSI drive, I take and plug the 50 pin in, and the CD does a chatter.. The CD is plugged into the external SCSI plug. Just wiggle the 50 pin on the scsi, and I can hear the CD chatter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.ONElist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Tue May 11 08:42:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08837 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:43:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 17623 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 17:45:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 17611 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:45:16 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc6-36.digital.net [208.14.38.36]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA18706 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:45:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Pat Kushko Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:42:58 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] DRIVES X-UIDL: 3aa65de06c2054350448b77c32e980af From: Ken >I've always wanted to hear/try one of those Buddha interfaces, cheap >drive storage sounds good. How fast are they? Of course IDE are famous >for unreliablity :( but if I can get 2-3 HD's up for cheap... it would be >better than digging in a box for some floppy. Now why would you ask me about the Buddha ? I haven't been able to keep SCSI or IDE running for months now. I can't point the finger at the Buddha, as the decision to go buddha wasn't made till I couldn't find a SCSI HD local smaller than 4 gigs. Those are now 6-8 gigs. I'm using the a3k this second with the buddha, I'd guess if your machine works, it may work just as well with the buddha. Once I figured how to install the 44.5 filesystem. The docs seem to be complete, but they don't answer the obvious questions. There's very little on it re: using it as a IDE controller on an a3k. It would seem the Buddha was more or less a ZORRO IDE controller. Has nothing to do with machine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Tue May 11 09:10:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA04687 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:13:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 29701 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 03:16:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 29529 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 03:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 03:16:10 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912451.acay.com.au [203.19.124.51]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21005 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:15:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <3737F3EB.3AF20A84@acay.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:10:03 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: cadcb57e860995a75b363ef68cc7ec1f From: Frank Bunton Nik Williams wrote: > > From: Nik Williams > > Hi ya, > Are there any HTML experts are here? I need some help before I > throw my Amiga out of the window. If you want a very good HTML tutorial go to:- http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/htmlindex.html or one of the mirror sites - see:- http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/mirrors.html -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.ONElist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Tue May 11 10:01:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA23177 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:02:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 32587 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 19:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 32582 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 19:03:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 19:03:01 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc6-36.digital.net [208.14.38.36]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09126 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: Colin Wenzel Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:01:06 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A3K HD Eater X-UIDL: 8301204a8f248820feb88f636a3dc11b From: Ken Here's a note I left at the amiga hardware web site to Ian. I made it as thorough as I can.. I hesitate to send this back to softhut for repair, best they could tell me is the hd is bad replace it.. Like blowing the same fuse (I'm on my 7th HD now 4 SCSI and 3 IDE's Buddha in use on a3k) and their solution is to replace the fuse. (How many times do you have to replace a fuse till the problem itself self corrects ? I've been both an electrician and radio repairman for the AF and civilian life. But this one has me stumped. Maybe you've heard or seen something similar in the past. I'm going to step back several months to when I sent it to softhut.. Ami was having troubles coming back from gurus, (nothing to indicate a drive problem yet). Took several reboots even to complete power off. Usually recovered after the 3rd power down. Then it just wouldn't come back at all. Off to softhut. They said the HD was shot. And it was. They said pick out a SCSI and they'll put it in. There's a local apple dealer so I paid the $90, and had it sent back. A seemingly perfect 1.3 gig Quantum SCSI HD that had no bad sectors (that I knew of), was now spitting out bad sectors like chicklets. Last count before I gave up and quit looking for bad sectors to mark in hdtools the total was over 2000. I had to stop looking every so many sectors cause it came back with illegal medium or something and refused to look further. Tried the apple 4.x gig SCSI (HDTOOLS couldn't even see it). Luckily for me they took it back next day... +$400.00 They claimed it was bad when it came back, but I never really got past just plugging it in. I spose this thing could have killed it, but not likley as I couldn't do anything with it but plug it in.. Moved on to a Buddha heard this seemingly has squat to do with the scsi controller. The developer (Jens) said you could unplug the scsi controller with the buddha in. I have no idea.. Ok got a 10.1 gig IBM IDE (Jens recommendation as he uses it in his test bed a3k), plugged it in, ran for 2 weeks then the ami couldn't find it. Luckily I also have a PC that uses IDE. so did a swap with the WD 2.1 gig IDE in the PC with the IBM 10.1 gig. the WD ran over a year in the PC no problems. Quickly found out a midstream MASTER/SLAVE swap on a PC should not happen.. Lost everything on all the hard drives. But both drives still ran fine, just they'd lost all the data... And had to be reformatted. At this time I took one of my Quantum 100 meg SCSI's and made it as JUST the SYSTEM boot drive. nothing on it but system.. Ok 2.1 gig IDE WD installed on the ami. Can't say for sure but think it lasted maybe 2 weeks also. Used it with a SYS: (non-bootable) partition and as a bootable partition. Then the WD self destructed. Couldn't even write the partition changes to it write error !2 or maybe !21. Tried to reformat it on the PC. The ami had definitely eaten it. The PC couldn't do a thing with it either. Picked up a 4.x gig Fujitsu ( I have no idea if it's brand name or what) but this fuji has been consistantly flaky since day one. This may mean the ami was ready to self destruct when I got the Fuji (I have since lost 2 SCSI's I was using as boot drives with this fuji, but the fuji keeps flakily plugging along needing to be found and reformatted at least once a week. I make daily backups. I've now moved to a max of 3 partitions 1 200 meg boot part. 1 2000 meg work part. and whatevers left for a backup part. One other thing that suggests a loose wire or ground (trouble is I had the exact same trouble with an a3k @16mhz.) If it seems like the thing isn't going to boot, a twist of the frame and here it comes booting just fine. I haven't had the case on now since it came back from softhut. If I can pinpoint whats causing the drive troubles I may put it back in the case. Oh specs that may also help. a3k @ 25. fuji 4.x gig IDE HD cbm floppy pioneer 12x CD. CD0 (removed asim completely) Runs a bit smoother Buddha controller 16 meg fast 2meg gfx All of this started happening after adding a pioneer 12x CD drive. This CD drive hasn't given me a lick of trouble once I got it installed. Installed asimcdfs, (this has to be a virus in disguise as a commercial product) After that using aweb, everytime aweb would choke on a GIF and crash while writing to a drive, asim's CD0 in DEVS: (different from the CD0 that comes from amiga) would self destruct, (you wouldn't believe how much time it took to find this problem). 2nd part of the crash the partition being written would also self destruct needing reformatted cause validate couldn't get past the trash left there. (I installed checkdrive and disksafe to fix this it worked for awhile). 3rd part of an asim crash, with all the stuff refererring to asim in both startup and user-startup the ami just cycled guruing in a reboot cycle when it couldn't find anything asimcdfs and the cd0 in use was totally trashed. Then used the boot with no startup and edited out the asim refs, to get things back up and running. Finally threw in the towel with asim and found the AMI CD0 works just fine for CD control One more buyer beware story.. You MUST HAVE commercial CD control software. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From lairfight@softhome.net Tue May 11 16:23:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29001 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:27:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 30510 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 16:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 30463 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maile.telia.com) (194.22.190.16) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from softhome.net (LFt@t4o68p95.telia.com [62.20.139.215]) by maile.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17559 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:29:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Linus Akesson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:23:03 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 7691130af4cacf71d6baa6786214626f From: Linus Akesson On 11-May-99, you wrote: > From: Nik Williams > Hello Linus > On 10-May-99, you wrote: >> From: Linus Akesson >> >> On 10-May-99, you wrote: >> That's an error at the http level, not in the html code. The website sends a >> mime type together with everything it sends. The mime type is usually >> text/html, image/gif, image/jpeg etc., which the browsers recognize as >> dislay-in-the-window kind of stuff. If the mime type is >> application/octet-stream (which is the default type for unknown data), the >> browser assumes it is some file that should be downloaded to disk. So, the >> web server sends an incorrect mime type. >> > That sounds very interesting & makes perfect sense. Any idea what the error > could be & what I could do about it? > Thanks.. Well.. do you run the web server software on your own computer or do you just upload your stuff to some webspace provider? Because if you upload it there's not very much to do, except reading their online help, asking the support people etc. However, if you run the website yourself you should check the documentation of the software you're using. There must be some way of specifying a mime type with a file, be it in the file comment field or somewhere else. Linus -- wwww (o)(O) .--> .-------mm--(__)--mm--------. | Linus Akesson | http://linusworld.cjb.net | `---------------^-- ----- --- -- -- - - - `---------ooO--Ooo----------' In the beginning, the Universe was created. 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Firstly, get hold of a digital voltmeter & check your 5 volt & 12 volt lines from the power supply. It sounds like you might be a bit on the high side...!! It should be within half a volt.... -------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. colstv@hotkey.net.au | URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ | | 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060/50 150Mb RAM. | -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Tue May 11 17:32:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06378 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:30:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 7153 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 17:32:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7137 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:32:09 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (3546 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] DRIVES X-UIDL: 881a5eb60942cee60bff54ead42a828a From: Pat Kushko Hi Ken, Sorry to hear about those drives, it looks like you've had a string of bad luck on a grande scale. > And just a bit curious if anyone knows a bit more about it ? Reading your message doesn't give me too many clues and I know nothing in the old A3000 that could cross SCSI & IDE with the same sort of problem. I suspect heat is your true adversary, some drive seems to get very hot and go into melt down. There's is an off chance that you're looking at a power supply regulation problem. Buy 'brand new' full warranty drives from a reputable dealer, check out your cooling system (perhaps another fan would be in order) and power supply system (with at least a multi-meter) and you might have a quick peek at your house line voltage. I live in apt building with a transformer just for the building.. it outputs 125-128 volts depending. Spikes in the electrical system are not good and lightning does take systems down. I've had a few failures.. most because of 'stiction' shaking it a bit got the drive back long enough for a complete save. > Then I attempted to install a 4 gig SCSI (not going to happen, or rather it > didn't happen that drive couldn't even be recognized by > hdtools). Greater than 4 gigs will soon be fixed. But you should have 'seen the drive'. With all your trouble you might want to investigate the PFS2 filing system. > Went with the Buddha and since that (maybe 3 months now) it's gone thru 2 > SCSI 100 meggers, ate one 2.1 gig IDE, there's now a 4 gig Fujitsu IDE > installed and it needs to be reinstalled at least weekly. Usually more often. > I've taken to making a complete backup of the entire drive so there's not > more than a day or two lost. I've always wanted to hear/try one of those Buddha interfaces, cheap drive storage sounds good. How fast are they? Of course IDE are famous for unreliablity :( but if I can get 2-3 HD's up for cheap... it would be better than digging in a box for some floppy. > I have the tech manuals from softhut, but they don't really show any output > voltages, or expected logic. These are more or less just schematics with > names of the chips.. Well most digital logic circuits use +5 volts, 12 volts supplied for older HD motors. The expected logic depends on configuration and software, not a road to go down. > They're definitely not Chiltons... You need some better luck... buy a rabbits foot and rub it every day. Or even better how about a dailyback up system. > Does anyone else have any leads on good hardware manuals for a3k's ? Or know > of a GOOD repairman ? I've got the manuals for the A3000.. but it's sorta like the blueprints to an F-16 fighter... it's not going to tell you why it's falling out of the sky. Tom's hardware page showed a link to a refrigerator that cools chips down to -50, someone overclocked his 400mhz chip to 620 wow... Well it's icecubes and fans for me.. Good luck. -- HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500 sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From D.Mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk Tue May 11 17:38:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08747 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:38:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 11197 invoked by alias); 11 May 1999 17:39:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11072 invoked from network); 11 May 1999 17:39:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk) (193.62.34.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:39:39 -0000 Received: from eee.rgu.ac.uk (ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk [193.62.34.252]) by glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA13472 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:37:49 GMT Message-Id: <199905111737.RAA13472@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> Received: from NS-EEE-1/SpoolDir by eee.rgu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 18:38:50 0 Received: from SpoolDir by NS-EEE-1 (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 18:38:43 0 From: "David McMinn" Organization: The Robert Gordon University, E&EE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:38:35 +0100 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] A3K HD Eater X-UIDL: a73cccbfc7baebf50f2edcb73bae23cc From: "David McMinn" > It's a fair guess, but not likely in this case. How about movable bad > sectors ? Thats what I get off and on now. One minute the sectors bad, hit > retry and it's gone. > > Run the hdtool validate and it finds nothing. > run it again and it can't find anything of value. bad drive etc.. > I'm still under suspicion of the pioneer cd causing most of the troubles > but other than termination I don't see the link.. Could be a dodgy cable, but that wouldn't explain why IDE + SCSI were both going down the pan. -- |) /\ \/ ][ |) |\/| © |\/| ][ |\| |\| d.mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk ICQ=16827694 http://members.xoom.com/David_McMinn I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Tue May 11 19:24:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08132 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:58:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 19573 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 19:59:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19413 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 19:59:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 19:59:03 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p025.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.89]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id HAA09221; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:59:25 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Rich Holtzschue Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 06:24:15 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <926260455@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WShell X-UIDL: bd486cde5bdd66298f892feb5bdf9833 From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Rich Holtzschue wrote on 10-May-99: |> RG> Wshell is not on aminet. Anybody got it? |>Development Corp. I'd have to check with our group to see if they want to |>sell Nah nah nah, the program I want then isn't called wshell. This one I have in mind was a hack I guess you call them, it simply changed things in some way so that you could access the titlebar from within the shell window. Quite useful. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- 44) In the movies, helocopters are attracted to mountains. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Wed May 12 04:21:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA02528 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:18:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 980 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 06:20:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 971 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 06:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 06:20:02 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA19314 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:20:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Tue, 11 May 99 23:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: <926544562@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-Mailer: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT CRS K/S X-FTN-PID: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] bugging out X-UIDL: 6a5884fdfca6e81e66a2d4020a70fe1f From: Rich Holtzschue Greets- From: Martin Persson MP> If I want to quit this just-amiga mailing list, how should I do? IIRC, Hellen Waite knows all the procedures for that. I would recommend you go to Hellen Waite. ;^) _rich_ AmigaLine BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* Note: The USAF says the light at the end of the tunnel is Venus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.ONElist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cbminfo@digital.net Wed May 12 07:49:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10185 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:50:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 17576 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 16:51:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 17568 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 16:51:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddi.digital.net) (198.69.104.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 16:51:30 -0000 Received: from digital.net (max-roc6-33.digital.net [208.14.38.33]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA22680 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:51:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken To: just-amiga Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:49:32 +0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] dev/dos-drivers X-UIDL: 182ebca5dca961419ebe9055cf7b4d0a From: Ken Now using Amigas CD0 vs any CD filesystem There's an inconsistancy to it that I haven't quite figured out yet. Might be nothing more than juggling some lines in startup, but I haven't tracked it down yet. The problem: (semi-problem) Boot up, the CD Icon places itself just fine with CD0 sitting in DEVS/DOSdrivers. But soon as everything in startup has run. the CD Icon disappears. Pop it out and back in, and it's there till another reboot is needed. How do I get the icon to stay in place (without any fancy cd filesystem) What is this out and back in that keeps the icon in place ? Is there a tooltype command I add to CD0 to make it stay in place ? The current settings are those that come with the basic CD0 device=scsi.device unit=3 mount=active ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Wed May 12 15:52:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32720 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:50:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 23135 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 15:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 23128 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 15:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sheppard.torfree.net) (199.71.188.24) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 15:51:54 -0000 Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (904 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <3737F3EB.3AF20A84@acay.com.au> Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 9b6b800f6d11e14300dd5d027893f1de From: Pat Kushko > > Are there any HTML experts are here? I need some help before I > > throw my Amiga out of the window. > > If you want a very good HTML tutorial go to:- > > http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/htmlindex.html > > or one of the mirror sites - see:- > > http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/mirrors.html I'm sure the UofT has one of the best tutorials, but here's one that seems excellent and it's Amiga specific! How can you miss.. http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/tutorials/html-1.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Wed May 12 20:49:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10537 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:07:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 30894 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 20:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 30886 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:09:20 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.161] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A2D07E250208; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:13:20 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:49:04 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Digital Cameras? X-UIDL: 48fdb0ecd1110f25cae6919eec756d9d From: Chris Seward Heya yo'all, I'm thinking of buying a Digital Camera to take... erm pictures obviously. I'll be going to Holland in the summer so i'll want to take pictures there and if i drag myself down to the WoA this July then i'll want to get mugshots of everyone and everything. As always with me, funds are very limited so i was looking for a cheap Digital Camera. I've seen the VDC-100 digi camera sold by Power Computing for £99.99 and wondered if anyone knew if it was any good? I'm not bothered to much how good the pictures are as long as they are colour, are quite good quality. ie. not fuzzy and you can pretty much see clearly the picture, so good picture quality in other words. There is a better version the VDC-200 which has better pixels, the 100 only had 250,000 but the 200 has 470,000 and also has built in flash and memory slot. Does anyone know how many pictures it can hold at a time? and if these come with any software or not. I really really like those ones that save your pictures to disk, that means I wouldn't have to bother with the fuss of connecting the digital camera to the computer but just mounting pc0: and copying the pictures off, ie. unlimited film. I've seen these for about £400 which is very expensive, does anyone know if you can get a cheaper alternitave, the ones I saw where Sony, so they are going to be more expensive. Does anyone have any recommendations? tnx! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Wed May 12 20:50:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10541 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:08:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 31122 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 20:09:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31115 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 20:09:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 20:09:26 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.161] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A2D67E250208; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:13:26 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] UK Mail Customs? X-UIDL: a4fe78226099b214dc595a1689118f28 From: Chris Seward Just to let you know that this isn't Amiga related, skip if you want... A few issues ago in AF they did an article about buying CDs etc from the U.S.A. because it was cheaper then here in the UK. Then a few issues on from that they received a letter from someone who tried out what they said but was writing in because he was angry that they didn't tell you that you have to pay some import tax or something. Does anyone know if everything bigger than a letter from the US has to pay tax on or would that person have to have paid tax because UK Customs open packages randomly to check what is inside and because they saw it was a music CD he got taxed? Does this mean if they don't open it you won't have to pay tax or does everything over a certain size/weight have to pay tax and if so does anyone know roughly how much it is for various sized items. Any ideas on this would be appreciated :) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 12 21:01:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA18410 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 16290 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 17:01:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16284 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:01:33 -0000 Received: from modem-148.name45.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.182.148] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hyqz-0000Nm-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:01 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Digital Cameras? X-UIDL: 9dfb020f253baa1f470d2e09a6e953f9 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 12-May-99, you wrote: > I'm thinking of buying a Digital Camera to take... erm pictures > obviously. I can easily recommend any of the Olympus Camedia ones. I've used them with the serial port on my 1200 (via the y splitter on the modem cable) and camedia software on aminet, just click on it to download all the pics. Dunno how much it is but it hads a flash, card slot and does 640x480 or 1280xsomething. Also does 9 frame anims, panoramic stuff, red eye reduction, and tons of stuff. Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan URA Redneck if: you owe the taxidermist more than your annual income. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 12 21:05:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA18412 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 2081 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 17:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2074 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:00:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:00:40 -0000 Received: from modem-148.name45.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.182.148] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hyr1-0000Nm-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:03 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:05:09 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] UK Mail Customs? X-UIDL: 0bbff82ce81b98f56c16dfdbaa4b7f26 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Chris On 12-May-99, you wrote: > A few issues ago in AF they did an article about buying CDs etc from > the U.S.A. because it was cheaper then here in the UK. Then a few issues > on from that they received a letter from someone who tried out what > they said but was writing in because he was angry that they didn't tell > you that you have to pay some import tax or something. Idiot The article clearly stated that if may be taxed, he should have read it more! > Does anyone know if everything bigger than a letter from the US has > to pay tax on or would that person have to have paid tax because > UK Customs open packages randomly to check what is inside and > because they saw it was a music CD he got taxed? Does this mean if Random. They open every so many packages and see if they can tax it. Its pot luck really. On the other hand, even if you are taxed then it will still be cheaper than buying it over here, so either way you win. Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Without books God is silent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed May 12 21:06:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29101 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 12681 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 18:02:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12671 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m002-p003.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.240.67]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA09407; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:01:43 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:06:18 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] (no subject) X-UIDL: 58c9ccabee4c2e1b735528329a3c5596 From: Rick Giles I'm writing an amos program which will match faces with numbers. After using it a user will have had practise toward seeing a number and matching it with a face. In practise this means that you can look at a number plate and realise these few people instead and so have the plate memorised, any number memorised. Is there anything out there like it now? Most importantly, anybody know a place I can get all the pictures I want? I want a shot of Superman, Plato, Chomsky, Queen,.... But visiting each individual page would be hard as I want 100 faces. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- 54) In the movies, rich people are unhappy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 12 21:07:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18432 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:00:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 13482 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 17:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13441 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:01:29 -0000 Received: from modem-148.name45.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.182.148] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hyr2-0000Nm-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:01:05 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:07:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printing Woes.. X-UIDL: 1ff4d7e597b8525e52ea8f93b8391054 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Jeff On 11-May-99, you wrote: >> The problem sounds like Final Writer but why would switching the >> printer on and off make final writer work and also moving the cable >> make it work. This makes it sound like a connection but then why does >> it not do it with CED? Most likely because printing text only has to send data down certain lines? FW prints in gfx mode which would probably use more lines (just guessing here) get yourself a new cable, if wriggling it does it, then it sounds pretty obvious. Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Butthead! Butthead! Come here quick. Bare ass on TV! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From oliver.roberts@iname.com Wed May 12 22:09:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02790 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:37:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 10724 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 22:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10689 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:39:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:39:33 -0000 Received: from modem-113.dextroamphetam.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.62.241] ident=oliver) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hheO-0001Gw-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:38:52 +0100 Date: 12 May 99 23:09:12 +0100 From: "Oliver Roberts" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4347.801T618T13893498oliver.roberts@iname.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Digital Cameras? X-UIDL: 0740f3c908592da298f5dc962a4a6377 From: "Oliver Roberts" On 12-May-99 21:49:04 BST, Chris Seward wrote: > As always with me, funds are very limited so i was looking for a cheap > Digital Camera. I've seen the VDC-100 digi camera sold by Power Computing > for £99.99 and wondered if anyone knew if it was any good? I'm not It's ok, but limited. It takes some getting used to before you can get decent shots out of it all the time - mainly because the way it responds to differing lighting conditions. It has 2 resolution modes, but I only recommend the standard 320x240. The 640x480 hires mode is not really 640x480 resolution (it's a hack - pics tend to be blurry). > bothered to much how good the pictures are as long as they are colour, > are quite good quality. ie. not fuzzy and you can pretty much see clearly > the picture, so good picture quality in other words. There is a better > version the VDC-200 which has better pixels, the 100 only had 250,000 but > the 200 has 470,000 and also has built in flash and memory slot. Don't read too much into the CCD values. However, the VDC-200 is much better all-round. It's got an LCD viewfinder on the back, amongst other things. More importantly picture quality is much better than what you get with the VDC-100. In particular, it responds much better to different light conditions, and of course, it's got a flash. And the 640x480 high res mode is proper 640x480 (just as clear as stdres, unlike the VDC-100). If you can afford the extra £100 for the VDC-200, then go for it. The problem with the VDC-100 is that you really don't know if the image came out ok until you connect it up to your Amiga. At least with the VDC-200, you can check - if you get a dodgy shot, you can view it on the LCD screen and delete it. > Does anyone know how many pictures it can hold at a time? Here are the specs for both the cameras: _VDC-100_ Image / Video........ 250,000 pixel CCD / 24-bit colour Resolution........... 320 x 240 (standard), 640 x 480 (high) Memory............... Stores upto 20 images (20 standard, 10 high or a mixture of both) Compression Method... JPEG (customized) Shutter Speed........ 1/60 to 1/16000 second Focus Range.......... 10cm to infinity Input / Output....... Analog video output RS232 serial port Power Supply......... 4 AA 1.5V batteries or DC power adaptor (7.5V 0.5A) _VDC-200 / VDC-200P_ Image / Video........ 470,000 pixel CCD / 24-bit colour Resolution........... 320 x 240 (standard), 640 x 480 (high) Memory............... 2Mb built-in - stores upto 50 images (50 standard, 20 high or a mixture of both). Optional 2Mb CF card for expansion Optics............... Optical Viewfinder Monitor: 45mm colour TFT LCD Fixed focus lens, 250mm to infinity Compression Method... Standard JPEG (JFIF) Shutter Speed........ 1/60 to 1/4000 second Input / Output....... Analog video output RS232 serial port Self-timer........... 10 second Power Supply......... 4 AA 1.5V batteries or DC power adaptor (7.5V 2A) > and if these come with any software or not. Yes, it's called PowerDC - I wrote it. So, it's safe to say I know a lot about both these cameras :) I used them extensively while I was developing the software, but now I don't touch the VDC-100 - it sucks in comparison to the VDC-200. But, of course, that's why there is a £100 price difference between the two. > I really really like those ones that save your pictures to disk, that > means I wouldn't have to bother with the fuss of connecting the > digital camera to the computer but just mounting pc0: and copying > the pictures off, ie. unlimited film. I've seen these for about £400 > which is very expensive, does anyone know if you can get a > cheaper alternitave, the ones I saw where Sony, so they are going > to be more expensive. The Sony Mavica, IIRC. That's the only disk one that I know of. -- Oliver Roberts /~\ ___(~)__ __ |~~~/~| UIN: 34640231 Norwich, UK | o | ' |~/. /. | | ~|| | oliver.roberts@iname.com |_|_|_M_|_\_,\__; |_| |_| oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Developer |__/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ F1GP-Ed Web Site ==> http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/F1GP-Ed/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Wed May 12 22:45:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02874 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:44:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 23884 invoked by alias); 12 May 1999 22:46:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23879 invoked from network); 12 May 1999 22:46:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 May 1999 22:46:21 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.100] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10hhgt-0005Yk-00; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:41:27 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:45:35 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Ivysaur X-Zero-Hour: in 599 days, 0 hours, 14 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: 930e34da7d8631919c8c26e69f6110a4 From: Stephen Williams Hi all How many people here are planning on going to WOA this year? I have _never_ been to a computer fair before, and I think I might go. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Wed May 12 23:09:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23894 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:04:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 2425 invoked by alias); 14 May 1999 23:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2102 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:05:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:05:58 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.107] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AEFC9CE801F4; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:09:00 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:09:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <926000406@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AIO X-UIDL: 135a9d68e3e2d3c0d361f52066f408b2 From: Chris Seward Rich, On 06-May-99, you wrote: > How would this work? Would it be sent via FidoNet Mail, Email, or > would we have to grab it off the web site? I assume we're talking an ASCII text > file. I can send it each month via email. Its not an Ascii text, it'll be about 250k -ish each month in LHA, if your interested give me your BBS details etc, Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Thu May 13 00:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19600 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:26:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 19557 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 00:27:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19550 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 00:27:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 00:27:42 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912428.acay.com.au [203.19.124.28]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08071 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:28:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <373A1C9A.35EFDAE@acay.com.au> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:28:10 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 9de2d4fb3f5cad3a6cb9499eee3bd637 From: Frank Bunton G'DAy all Pat Kushko wrote: > I'm sure the UofT has one of the best tutorials, but here's one that > seems excellent and it's Amiga specific! How can you miss.. > > http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/tutorials/html-1.html Yeah - that looks like it will be good when it is finished -- ------------------------------------------------ From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From dlbenson@psnw.com Thu May 13 01:27:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA05966 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:19:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 9032 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 02:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9027 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 02:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 02:21:54 -0000 Received: from psnw.com (root@vct1-16.psnw.com [206.43.240.39]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA03713 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Don and Lynn Benson To: Mail List Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:27:46 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Newsletters X-UIDL: 8468ca123ee2b8ea50600d756d2fcda8 From: Don and Lynn Benson I would like to get in touch with anyone out there who creates newsletters, especially for computer clubs. The purpose is for the exchange of design ideas and possibly exchange of articles. Our club is quite small and our newsletter can be a maximum of 12 pages (6 sheets of paper) due to US Postal cost. I would prefer personal email contact instead of the List. Thanks /// /// AMIGA -D. R. Benson /// IS 1209 East Sweet Street \\\ /// ALIVE! Visilia CA 93292-2260 \\\/// U.S.A. \XX/ Amiga is what Windows wants to be when it grows up. -e-mail: dlbenson@psnw.com Those who are busy saying it can't be done need to stay out of the way of those who are busy doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From triadian_uk@yahoo.com Thu May 13 02:24:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA06009 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:23:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 9525 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 02:24:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 9516 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 02:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web607.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.68.171) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 02:24:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990513022458.22416.rocketmail@web607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.250.66.188] by web607.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:24:58 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Ison To: just-amiga@onelist.com Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: 8736c57730b59eed2340eb6f1ea803d1 From: Ian Ison --- Stephen Williams wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Hi all > > How many people here are planning on going to WOA > this year? I have > _never_ been to a computer fair before, and I think > I might go. > > -Stephen > when is the show this year and is it still at Hammersmith or are they moving it ??? ________ /riadian _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From peter@amigauniverse.co.uk Thu May 13 09:30:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28275 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:18:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 18416 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 11:19:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 18410 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 11:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 11:19:45 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.95] (helo=amigauni.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10htSm-0003DM-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:15:40 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:30:05 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <373A1C9A.35EFDAE@acay.com.au> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Amiga Universe Organisation Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HTML X-UIDL: 601a0c52178191aa9410fb729430e132 From: Peter Price Pat Kushko scribbled with a virtual Biro about Re: [just-amiga] HTML : > I'm sure the UofT has one of the best tutorials, but here's one that > seems excellent and it's Amiga specific! How can you miss.. > > http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/tutorials/html-1.html Hey, wow, thanks. Glad you liked it :) Best Regards -- Peter Price - Amiga Universe - http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/ The site that gives you everything. Mirrors. IRC Channel. Mailing List. Administrator - ARCNet, #amigacafe and #amigaUni Computers Make Very Fast, Very Accurate Mistakes.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thu May 13 16:23:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA13243 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:20:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 4710 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 16:21:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 4695 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 16:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 16:21:37 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1038 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:23:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WShell X-UIDL: 01257f1204f055735922c7a006222ae2 From: Pat Kushko > From: Rick Giles > > It's simply incredible what Rich Holtzschue wrote on 10-May-99: > > |> RG> Wshell is not on aminet. Anybody got it? > |>Development Corp. I'd have to check with our group to see if they want to > |>sell > > Nah nah nah, the program I want then isn't called wshell. > > This one I have in mind was a hack I guess you call them, it > simply changed things in some way so that you could access the > titlebar from within the shell window. Quite useful. You would be talking about PowerWB would you? WorkBench Menu's available from the frames of windows as gadgets? Guess there's hundreds of hacks like that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From james@jackle.demon.co.uk Thu May 13 17:12:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20906 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:12:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 2652 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 17:13:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2504 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 17:13:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 17:13:26 -0000 Received: from [158.152.126.30] (helo=jackle.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hz3G-000Fgn-0C for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:13:43 +0000 From: James Luscombe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] UK Mail Customs? X-UIDL: daad356cb9ce51eb2c0c503d14317c46 From: James Luscombe Hello Chris On 12-May-99, Chris Seward wrote: > > A few issues ago in AF they did an article about buying CDs etc from > the U.S.A. because it was cheaper then here in the UK. Then a few issues > on from that they received a letter from someone who tried out what > they said but was writing in because he was angry that they didn't tell > you that you have to pay some import tax or something. > > Does anyone know if everything bigger than a letter from the US has > to pay tax on or would that person have to have paid tax because > UK Customs open packages randomly to check what is inside and > because they saw it was a music CD he got taxed? Does this mean if > they don't open it you won't have to pay tax or does everything > over a certain size/weight have to pay tax and if so does anyone > know roughly how much it is for various sized items. When CDNow send out the CD's they put a sticker on the outside of the box with details of the contents, and their value in USD. AFAICT none of the packages I've had from the USA have been opened, but only one has escaped the customs net.... Cheers. -- James Luscombe Amiga 3000T, 604e/200 060/50, Picasso IV james@jackle.demon.co.uk Amiga 1200, 060/64 BorgerKing--Have it our way. Your way is irrelevant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Thu May 13 19:58:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA18832 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:07:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 31533 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 20:08:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 31528 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 20:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:08:38 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10i1mY-000F0N-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:08:38 +0000 Message-ID: <373B2F01.23B41A93@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:58:57 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: b4db0e342ce7541cd3c401b6c9d5aeea From: Alan Gryniewicz Hiya! > How many people here are planning on going to WOA this year? I have > _never_ been to a computer fair before, and I think I might go. Yeah I`m probably going this year if I can make it.... I went last year but it wasn`t confirmed until last moment so I didn`t have time to let a lot of people I knew, know I was going to be there..... Annoying really because I probably walked passed loads of friends that I just didn`t recognise in real life!! :( C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... Alan Gryniewicz [zYX!/A51]: :. / / |: / / // /__ / / | / ___ \ :. :....alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk:: : / /| |:/ / // ___// /| | \__ \\ \ :...:...:.. . : ... .:. ::. ..: / __ |/ _ \ \__/ __ | /___// /.A51hQ SiTE[#---------]-10%c0MPLeTE /_/:.|___/ \_/\_____/.:|_|:.. /_/ :.. .http://www.a51krew.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Thu May 13 19:59:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23899 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:04:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 2766 invoked by alias); 14 May 1999 23:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2714 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 23:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 May 1999 23:06:27 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.107] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AF239CE801F4; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:09:39 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:59:30 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Digital Dreams Entertainment interview online. X-UIDL: de20c19bd82cf14f9f97e44e0585b7fe From: Chris Seward The *MASSIVE* Digital Dreams Entertainment interview is now online at the AIO website, *http://www.aio.co.uk* In Misc/interviews. You will also beable to read this in *issue 24* which is due for release *22nd May 1999*. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get involved. Share your thoughts! http://www.onelist.com Join the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Thu May 13 21:19:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04538 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:00:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 5928 invoked by alias); 14 May 1999 18:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5854 invoked from network); 14 May 1999 18:01:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep2-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 May 1999 18:01:28 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p027.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.91]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with SMTP id GAA06110; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:01:45 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Pat Kushko Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:19:50 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WShell X-UIDL: bb22a4dcccbf509972b1d71ab4f8fb36 From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Pat Kushko wrote on 14-May-99: |>You would be talking about PowerWB would you? WorkBench Menu's available |>from the frames of windows as gadgets? Guess there's hundreds of hacks |>like that. Frames and gadgets? When the shell is selected, you can't use the title bar. You must click on the Workbench window to do it, then click back on the shell to continue. I've seen a hack that removes the need to change the selected window. I want it. If there are hundreds, then where are they? Would they be in aminet/utils/hacks or something like that?? Cool Enough, TTFN! -- b) In the movies, computers know everything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From malky@nobleone.u-net.com Thu May 13 22:25:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA11035 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:34:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 1999 invoked by alias); 13 May 1999 22:36:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1984 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 22:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:36:07 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.229] (helo=p101.nas4.is5.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10i40a-0002TP-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:16 +0000 From: "Malcolm Harnden" Organization: A4000 040/40Mhz PPC200Mhz CVPPC User http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Date: 13 May 99 23:25:43 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000130] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: cf4db7787c6fdf5b51c04b6e7a10881a From: "Malcolm Harnden" This *Amiga PPC* owner and program buyer reply`s to your.... ------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 12 May 1999 23:45:35 +0100 [just-amiga] WOA '99 Hi Stephen Williams I`ve been to all in Uk and a couple in Germany - Berlin was good. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Malcolm Harnden PPC User. 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Visit My WebSite at:- http://www.nobleone.u-net.com Email me at:- malky@nobleone.u-net.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ah802@freenet.toronto.on.ca Sat May 15 01:55:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA17585 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:53:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 25252 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 01:55:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25111 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 01:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO queen.torfree.net) (199.71.188.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 01:55:04 -0000 Received: from localhost by queen.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1716 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Kushko To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WShell X-UIDL: 42e07af93a1bb65510e5910bdd0c3006 From: Pat Kushko > From: Rick Giles > > It's simply incredible what Pat Kushko wrote on 14-May-99: > > |>You would be talking about PowerWB would you? WorkBench Menu's available > |>from the frames of windows as gadgets? Guess there's hundreds of hacks > |>like that. > > Frames and gadgets? > When the shell is selected, you can't use the title bar. You > must click on the Workbench window to do it, then click back on > the shell to continue. Well I'm still not sure what you're after... other than to say my Wshell consol has attached menu's (these are custom, hence anything you want). > I've seen a hack that removes the need to change the selected > window. > I want it. If you see something you want... hold on to it:) > If there are hundreds, then where are they? Would they be in > aminet/utils/hacks or something like that?? I don't think you will find them in one place, given the nature of what you're looking for. E.g. PowerWB puts menu items in drag bar of windows, MagicMenu's puts pop menu's at the mouse pointer on a right MB click. Runbar brings custom menu's and more on a hotkey, Switcher brings everything to a popup window at any location. There's just so many ways to do & get what you want. I suspect you will find that one of these programs I've mentioned will become your o/s crutch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get involved. Share your thoughts! http://www.onelist.com Join the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Sat May 15 04:17:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA27054 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:19:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 21231 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 06:20:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21222 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 06:20:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sandbox.dynip.com) (205.228.205.35) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 06:20:07 -0000 Received: (from fnet@localhost) by sandbox.dynip.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA15388 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:20:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sandbox.telepath.com: fnet set sender to Rich.Holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org using -f Apparently-To: just-amiga@onelist.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Rich Holtzschue Date: Fri, 14 May 99 23:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: <926726790@f2020.n147.z1.ftn> X-FTN-CHRS: LATIN-1 2 X-FTN-ORIGCHRS: IBMPC 2 X-Mailer: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT CRS K/S X-FTN-PID: DLGMail 1.27 RE025 X-FTN-Via: DLGMail @ 1:147/2020.0 (primary default address) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] AIO X-UIDL: 56a76292c620dbe33b294a7d91280bfb From: Rich Holtzschue Greets- From: Chris Seward RH> How would this work? Would it be sent via FidoNet Mail, Email, RH> or would we have to grab it off the web site? I assume we're talking an RH> ASCII text file. CS> I can send it each month via email. Its not an Ascii text, it'll be CS> about 250k -ish each month in LHA, if your interested give me your CS> BBS details etc, BBS details? Not sure what you need so I'll shotgun it. The Amiga group is in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA. The name is OACES (Oklahoma Amiga Computer EnthuseistS). Addy; OACES P.O.Box 890981 Oklahoma City, OK. 73189-0981 URL: www.amigapc.com/oaces/index.html Pres. Brian Basore Email: brian.basore@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Vice-Pres. Mike McDougal Email: mikemac3@flash.net Secretary/Treasurer/Editor Rex Suba Email: rex@amigapc.com Librarian Paul Chandonnett OACES Fido 7/24 BBS: AmigaLine (405) 447-8539 Fido addy: 1:147/2020 Sysop: me (surprise, surprise!) member Team *Amiga* Email: rich.holtzschue@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org Of coarse, all can be reached here using the canonical Fido Email gateway format firstname.lastname@f2020.n147.z1.fidonet.org. Group was established in 1985. BBS has been in existance in form or another since 1987. Meetings are the first Thrusday of each month starting 7:00 PM at the Tom Steed bldg Rose State College. (Actually, a *HUGE* tornado just went thru here recently and the college was in it's path so we're making do for now. Lived here in tornado alley all my life and never have seen such a monster). (shrug) Anything else you need just ask. _rich_ AmigaLine BBS sysop member Team *AMIGA* The light at the end ot the tunnel is a sign at a dead end reading... Abaondon ye all hope who enter here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Sat May 15 12:03:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05834 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:01:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 31898 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 11:02:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 31892 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 11:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 11:02:48 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.243] (helo=p51.nas4.is5.unet.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10ic9Q-0002Y6-00; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:58:41 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Date: 15 May 99 12:03:48 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000099] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: 396f2d7876a6f8484040eb70fed5e281 From: "Paul Dixon" Hi one and all, Can anyone point me in the right direction for themes to opus 5.5 thank you Paul -- Paul Mailto paul@valerie.u-net.com Webpages www.valerie.u-net.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat May 15 13:06:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16009 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:07:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 8867 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 12:08:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8862 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 12:08:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 12:08:20 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max03-066.enterprise.net [194.72.196.66]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29756 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:08:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:06:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: c2ad6bac062f4fecad1cbc4e09f9ee43 From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Hi one and all, > Can anyone point me in the right direction for themes to > opus 5.5 Aminet. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - All the leaves a brown, and the sky is grey, California dreaming, on such a weary day. -- Mamas&Papas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jrjira@ix.netcom.com Sat May 15 13:57:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01937 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:56:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 9727 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 20:57:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9722 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 20:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com) (206.214.98.16) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 20:57:25 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA20106 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sdx-ca37-44.ix.netcom.com(198.211.48.172) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020095; Sat May 15 15:57:13 1999 Message-Id: <15199935676287.Amiga@smtp.ix.netcom.com> From: jrjira@ix.netcom.com (John R. Jira) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:57:35 X-Form: Standard To: just-amiga@onelist.com Organization: None X-Mailer: StarGate v2.01 [68K] [MUI] -- Amiga Mailer By Danny Y. Wong Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (no subject) Finding Pictures X-UIDL: 817ccbc682e3e8e15e8a9e6ad9e26ffc From: jrjira@ix.netcom.com (John R. Jira) On Thu, 13 May 1999 08:06:18 +1100 you talked about... >From: Rick Giles > > > I'm writing an amos program which will match faces with numbers. >After using it a user will have had practise toward seeing a number >and matching it with a face. > In practise this means that you can look at a number plate and >realise these few people instead and so have the plate memorised, >any number memorised. > >Is there anything out there like it now? > > Most importantly, anybody know a place I can get all the pictures >I want? I want a shot of Superman, Plato, Chomsky, Queen,.... > But visiting each individual page would be hard as I want 100 >faces. > > Cool Enough, TTFN! > Hi Rick, Go to the Alta Vista search engine and use picture search. Type in what picture you want and stand back for picture overload :-) Regards, -- John R. Jira Chula Vista CA Chula Vista CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Sat May 15 16:01:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09516 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:59:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 9678 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 15:00:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9655 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 15:00:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 15:00:28 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.37] (helo=p51.nas4.is5.unet.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10ifra-00013O-00; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:56:31 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Date: 15 May 99 16:01:37 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000099] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: 454d251776c91f09adc45b5d378d77f7 From: "Paul Dixon" > From: Andrew Crowe > > Hi Everybody, > > > Hi one and all, > > Can anyone point me in the right direction for themes to > > opus 5.5 > > Aminet. done it but only got one !!! Paul -- Paul Mailto paul@valerie.u-net.com Webpages www.valerie.u-net.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.ONElist.com Join one today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Sat May 15 17:06:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21462 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:04:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 28038 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 16:06:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28030 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:06:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:06:29 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.153.115]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA31496 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:26:49 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:06:05 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AmigaActive X-UIDL: 896c8fab6a70684af32a5ee40dc44512 From: Nik Williams Hi ya, Does anyone know what the crack is with AmigaActive? See ya -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat May 15 17:25:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23883 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:26:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 23991 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 16:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23981 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 16:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 16:27:16 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max04-029.enterprise.net [194.72.196.149]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29376 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:27:33 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:25:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: 576277352b3bd0860d0f6aec13bd32cb From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, >> Aminet. > done it but only got one !!! I've seen a lot more then one appear in the recent upload list so far! try in the 'biz/dopus' section See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Meet me in the crowd, people, people. -- REM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 145,000 email communities to choose from! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Sat May 15 18:56:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA15456 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:00:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 30937 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 30902 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pa.scotland.net) (194.247.65.132) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:01:40 -0000 Received: from [148.176.238.44] (helo=e2c9p44.scotland.net ident=prs17788) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10ijgn-0006E7-00; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:01:38 +0100 From: "Richard Lane" Organization: Me, organised. hah ha ha Date: 15 May 99 19:56:49 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.3 [NC2-#00000628] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: d22a6c8a1f7a1e4f52de7c3f0d0975f1 From: "Richard Lane" Hi Paul Dixon, In reference to "[just-amiga] Themes", > From: "Paul Dixon" > > Hi one and all, > Can anyone point me in the right direction for themes to > opus 5.5 > thank you Aminet biz/dopus Also check out the links page on my web site. There's a Theme "CrazyAmiga" I've created available on the Downloads page that's not on Aminet, that you might like to take a look at. Details below. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Magnum_Opus support site - http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/amiga Powered by *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From pamiga@channel1.com Sat May 15 20:02:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA27340 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:04:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 3711 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 20:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3704 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 20:04:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO user1.channel1.com) (199.1.13.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 20:04:58 -0000 Received: from channel1.com (pamiga@remote130.channel1.com [204.96.32.130]) by user1.channel1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19752 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: peter mysliwy To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:02:52 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Themes X-UIDL: 8a6c3507ac9144243bf1d08a37f63618 From: peter mysliwy Hello Paul On 15-May-99, you wrote: > From: "Paul Dixon" > >> From: Andrew Crowe >> >> Hi Everybody, >> >>> Hi one and all, >>> Can anyone point me in the right direction for themes to >>> opus 5.5 >> >> Aminet. > done it but only got one !!! > Paul > Buy the Dopus plus Cd it has a couple of windoze conversion packages on it plus a lot of other info. Regards -- Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:40:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24947 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 3758 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3722 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:16 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4173E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:35 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:40:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] UK Mail Customs? X-UIDL: 8c3ea8cea30e4bf3b46aa2e6ecf35607 From: Chris Seward James, On 13-May-99, you wrote: > When CDNow send out the CD's they put a sticker on the outside of the box > with details of the contents, and their value in USD. AFAICT none of the > packages I've had from the USA have been opened, but only one has escaped > the customs net.... So you mean on all/most of your CDs you've been taxed? Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:40:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24948 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 3878 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3829 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:18 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4183E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:36 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:40:58 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Moonbases X-UIDL: 34a14d87b26b5abf12ea6d182bd7e693 From: Chris Seward Matt, On 08-May-99, you wrote: > Isn't that the same moonbases with the naff graphics that was in the AF > reader games? if you're gonna sell it then it had better be one helluva lot > better than the on on the coverdisk!!!! I dunno, i'm just forwarding the news AIO received from Alive Mediasoft, they are releasing it not me :) Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24954 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 4136 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4003 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:19 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A41A3E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:38 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Promises (fwd) X-UIDL: 604465165a7ecc4a7296d96485873b17 From: Chris Seward Matt, On 08-May-99, you wrote: > There is 1 deciding factor for me, will the games run from the cd or will it > be a DMS file jobbie? even moreso, have they been AGA and accelerator fixed > so that they will actually run on a modern system? I can't boot without my > accelerator, and no accelerator = no CD drive.... I run a magazine not a software company, you should contact epic marketing about this one.... epicmarketing@dialin.net Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Star Wars fans are using ONElist to share the fun. http://www.ONElist.com Are you? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24958 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 4185 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4137 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:21 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A41B3E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:39 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Where can I find?2 X-UIDL: 5e3f34a39132612bf9c8e74109bd5a08 From: Chris Seward Kevin, On 09-May-99, you wrote: > Thanks for replying Chris,I do not have the know how . You could always advertise for a webpage programmer and i'm still glad to host it for you. > The trouble with yahoo/cucug org etc is not just amiga but lots of PC stuff, > and sites out of date. www.cucug.org/amiga.html is 100% Amiga and is up to date if the authors of the site keep them updated. Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24966 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 4264 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4206 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:23 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A41D3E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:41 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3735E1D6.25016440@a51krew.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printing Woes.. X-UIDL: daf682db37ea80a4fa174948a7609b15 From: Chris Seward Alan, On 09-May-99, you wrote: > Sounds like a printer driver problem to me.... Simple text prints fine > with the generic driver but more complex print matter would need a > dedicated driver... Which one are you using at the moment? Star9Plus :) Now do you understand the problem :) Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24974 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 4498 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4310 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A41E3E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:42 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Spam X-UIDL: 271c8dfda99189f0ca8650e36c667aa6 From: Chris Seward Kevin, On 09-May-99, you wrote: > 1 It says this is not a SPAM because return in subject REMOVE If they say return the email to be removed *DO NOT* reply to it at all otherwise they will put you on a list for known 'real' email addresses. > 2 the return address is false. This is usual. > These must be stopped HOW? Hehe, welcome to the world of the internet. I used to get about 5-6 AOL spam emails a week, i sent lots of them to abuse@aol.com and they replied saying they had closed the accounts. Now i receive none or one in a blue moon. Does this not sound funny, anyone think AOL actually send the spam out? ToOdle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24962 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 4562 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 4505 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:26 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4203E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:44 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:13 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4125676D.0031888B.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Antwort: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: 57243d7db2765da87af493e2a023c810 From: Chris Seward Rudi, On 10-May-99, you wrote: Thanks for your help, but isn't this tagline slightly over doing it? > A1200 TowerhawkEx+OnBoard1200Ex > > Blizzard 603e/240/40/25+40MB Fast > > Winner IDE/Fast ATA2 Controller > > Conner 240 MB + IBM 8,4 GB > > Piccolo 2MB+CybergraphX 4.0 > > Prelude+Samplitude Opus 3.5 > > Mitsumi FX400+AlphaData CD1200 PCMCIA-Controller > > 17"LG Monitor+AmiscanFF > > Commodore MPS 1200 Printer > > Microdeal MIDI-Interface > > AlphaData Handscanner > > > > Yamaha CS1x > > Roland RD 100 Phew! I just found the bottom. ToOdle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24970 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 4671 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 4603 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:28 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4223E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:46 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990510184537.22852.rocketmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: edcbe70b93dd7ec13ec059bcec9536f4 From: Chris Seward Ian, On 10-May-99, you wrote: > If Anyone Has The Number Why Dont We All Just Ring It Or Would That Be > Considered As Hacking ???? Well I for a FACT know i've got 4 people to put my name in and havn't heard diddly from them, i reckon its a big ploy to get a mass spam list to spam everyone. They know most people will jump at the chance of an 0800 number. I don't know anyone who has an account, until I see proof or get mine which i'm owed i won't believe it. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24981 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 4946 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 4735 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4243E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:48 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:20 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: cc3767951dd35dc040a0f979c31d08b1 From: Chris Seward Stephen, On 12-May-99, you wrote: > How many people here are planning on going to WOA this year? I have > _never_ been to a computer fair before, and I think I might go. I havn't been to any Amiga shows since 1994, I used to go to plenty before 1994 but have never been to one since. I will try to make it down but i'm not 100% sure. I asked Andrew Elia who is in charge of organising this if there would be a coach trip for us northeners to stop off at various main citys in the north, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham etc etc. I would 100% go then but he said that they had no plans to, if you think this would be a good idea then bug him at, andrew@uk.amigasoc.org Pip Toodle (Confused? I am) -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 15 20:41:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24985 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:54:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 4992 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 4958 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 19:56:32 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.87] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A4253E2029A; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:59:49 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990513022458.22416.rocketmail@web607.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: eab667e4a32f871d14006c9f133c0784 From: Chris Seward Ian, On 13-May-99, you wrote: > when is the show this year and is it still at Hammersmith or are they > moving it ??? If you don't already know its July 24th & 25th 1999. The venue is the Kensington Town Hall opposite Kensington tube station, London. I'm assured by Andrew Elia that this venue is bigger than the Hammersmith and Amiga are interested in the WoA being kept to these dates (does that tell you something special maybe announced, released?) Is anyone actually interested in running a big Amiga show in the North? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From james@jackle.demon.co.uk Sat May 15 20:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01816 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:50:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 8358 invoked by alias); 15 May 1999 20:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8352 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 May 1999 20:51:18 -0000 Received: from [158.152.126.30] (helo=jackle.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ilPO-000Pol-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:51:46 +0000 From: James Luscombe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] UK Mail Customs? X-UIDL: 522aa35f5acf88fd8705bc342fe404b8 From: James Luscombe Hello Chris On 15-May-99, Chris Seward wrote: > >> When CDNow send out the CD's they put a sticker on the outside of the > box >> with details of the contents, and their value in USD. AFAICT none of > the >> packages I've had from the USA have been opened, but only one has > escaped >> the customs net.... > > So you mean on all/most of your CDs you've been taxed? Yep, afraid so. It's not just the tax though, the PO add a charge on top of that for collecting the tax :-( Cheers. -- James Luscombe Amiga 3000T, 604e/200 060/50, Picasso IV james@jackle.demon.co.uk Amiga 1200, 060/64 SPONGECAKE: Dessert made of borrowed ingredients. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Sun May 16 04:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26793 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:51:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 9467 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 16:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9454 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 16:52:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 16:52:15 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca ([206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07139 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port126.magma.ca [206.191.5.126]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15246 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Printing Woes.. X-UIDL: 337fbdf3e897f57573f7eae8b4d64841 From: Jeff Brown >> Sounds like a printer driver problem to me.... Simple text prints >> fine with the generic driver but more complex print matter would need >> a dedicated driver... Which one are you using at the moment? > > Star9Plus :) Star9Plus works fine... I used to use it all the time with my Star NX1000 before switching over to a Canon BJC-4100 inkjet (not the greatest printer, but it works well). Are you actually *USING* a Star printer? (Or Epson compatible as I doubt the Star9Plus driver has much in there which is actually Star-specific given Star dot matrix printers implemented the Epson control code set). Have you set the printer to 7bit? I remember there being a dip-switch for that. Check your printer manual... if it's set to default to 7bit, then you'll just have to tell it to do otherwise!! =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Armin.Huebner@t-online.de Sun May 16 10:22:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA30170 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:24:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 18381 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 10:25:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 18371 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 10:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout10.btx.dtag.de) (194.25.2.158) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 10:25:02 -0000 Received: from fwd03.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.163]) by mailout10.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 10iy6a-0007LS-00; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:25:12 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (0521450739-0001(btxid)@[62.157.11.102]) by fwd03.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:25:03 +0200 To: Just-Amiga-Liste Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:22:17 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: HueBiSoft X-Sender: 0521450739-0001@t-online.de From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: d06a117710aa333863cdc58c77a8bb20 From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Hello there, I am trying to use the new picture datatype v43 from aminet with A1200 and AGA, but it refuses loading wb background and window backgrounds. Hope that someone can help. -Armin- -- ____________________________________________________________________________ //armin.huebner@t-online.de \ // \X/ Long live AMIGA! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Sun May 16 12:04:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04599 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:03:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 28783 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 11:05:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 28768 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 11:05:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 11:05:05 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com ([194.119.178.106]) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10izeY-0004iG-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:04:22 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Sun, 16 May 99 12:04:43 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Sat, 15 May 99 20:41:20) Lines: 21 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: e6716f9754b7bc272c8b6c8a97359b0c From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi Chris > I asked Andrew Elia who is in charge of organising this if there would > be a coach trip for us northeners to stop off at various main citys in > the north, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham etc etc. I would > 100% go then but he said that they had no plans to, if you think this > would > be a good idea then bug him at, I think you'll find that coach companies already run coaches from most cities to London. There's also trains - Virgin Cross-country have some pretty good deals (although you'd have to allow a good bit of extra time, as they're never on tim!). Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sun May 16 16:41:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26833 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:55:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 25547 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 16:55:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25542 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 16:55:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail10.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.214) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 16:55:54 -0000 Received: from modem-10.name2.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.160.138] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10j4D1-0006y8-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:56:16 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:41:49 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 1a6f095d3aa1d0ddce17d0e77c7d4294 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Armin On 16-May-99, you wrote: > I am trying to use the new picture datatype v43 from aminet > with A1200 and AGA, but it refuses loading > wb background and window backgrounds. are you trying to use a jpg as a background? I'm guessing that you also have the options set to a HAM screen yes? 1) dither it, don't use ham 2) try an iff, they load quicker Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan They also serve who only stand and wait. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From oliver.roberts@iname.com Sun May 16 17:26:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08543 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:18:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 20145 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 18:19:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20136 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 18:19:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 18:19:13 -0000 Received: from modem-88.name39.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.179.88] ident=oliver) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10j5Vg-0007Z2-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:19:37 +0100 Date: 16 May 99 18:26:10 +0100 From: "Oliver Roberts" To: "Jeff Brown" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1233.805T509T11063221oliver.roberts@iname.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 987d6cc155f47e06e0736a76404943de From: "Oliver Roberts" On 16-May-99 18:54:53 BST, Jeff Brown wrote: >> I am trying to use the new picture datatype v43 from aminet >> with A1200 and AGA, but it refuses loading >> wb background and window backgrounds. > They (stupidly) removed AGA support from picture.datatype v43. That's > marketing for ya. CyberGraphX wanted to have it all to itself, then > P96. What's left for us AGA amigans? > > P.S. The short time I got to use it (before they removed AGA support) I > found it to be a marvelous enhancement -- especially with dithering > enabled. The picture.datatype supplied with P96 has AGA support - this should work just fine on AGA machines. But, as you say, AGA support was dropped from the different v43 datatype for CGX. You can find the datatype in gfx/board/Picasso96.lha on Aminet. Just manually copy picture.datatype to SYS:Classes/Datatypes - and, hey presto :) -- Oliver Roberts /~\ ___(~)__ __ |~~~/~| UIN: 34640231 Norwich, UK | o | ' |~/. /. | | ~|| | oliver.roberts@iname.com |_|_|_M_|_\_,\__; |_| |_| oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk Amiga Developer |__/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ [ PGP public key available on request ] Team *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Sun May 16 17:54:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26845 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:56:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 14641 invoked by alias); 16 May 1999 16:57:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14561 invoked from network); 16 May 1999 16:57:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 16 May 1999 16:57:14 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.218]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07480 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port126.magma.ca [206.191.5.126]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15870 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:57:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:54:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 4361daa2ecc8d53bbedd29d0854a090c From: Jeff Brown > I am trying to use the new picture datatype v43 from aminet > with A1200 and AGA, but it refuses loading > wb background and window backgrounds. They (stupidly) removed AGA support from picture.datatype v43. That's marketing for ya. CyberGraphX wanted to have it all to itself, then P96. What's left for us AGA amigans? P.S. The short time I got to use it (before they removed AGA support) I found it to be a marvelous enhancement -- especially with dithering enabled. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Mon May 17 06:34:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA19923 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:49:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 20057 invoked by alias); 17 May 1999 05:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20051 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 05:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 May 1999 05:50:24 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca ([206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA26928 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port108.magma.ca [206.191.5.108]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA17301 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:50:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:34:39 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1233.805T509T11063221oliver.roberts@iname.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 95b160a8d2246f4153d3bc70945eaeb7 From: Jeff Brown > The picture.datatype supplied with P96 has AGA support - this should > work just fine on AGA machines. But, as you say, AGA support was > dropped from the different v43 datatype for CGX. Oh! I've been hearing this, and even went to the point of downloading P96 to check it out. Careful examination of the docs pointed out that it would *not* work without a gfx card. I'll try again, this time, ignoring the docs. =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Mon May 17 08:33:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA03914 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:34:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 31286 invoked by alias); 17 May 1999 07:35:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31279 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 07:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anduril.Austria.EU.net) (193.154.160.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 May 1999 07:35:50 -0000 Received: from kbn2.kb-endlos.com ([193.228.86.5]) by anduril.Austria.EU.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13667 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:35:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Received: by kbn2.kb-endlos.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 41256774.002F8DD6 ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:39:25 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KBE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <41256774.002ED7CE.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:33:56 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [just-amiga] Antwort: Re: [just-amiga] Antwort: [just-amiga] Amiga Audio -> Tape quality? X-UIDL: c47ee6c22b0915121f23955b7b4b18e2 From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Erm..... sorry. Will be changed ASAP! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 14 million emails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist IS the place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From dharelle@mpx.com.au Mon May 17 13:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA32242 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:42:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 19991 invoked by alias); 17 May 1999 13:43:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19982 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 13:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailarray.mpx.com.au) (203.29.192.98) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 May 1999 13:43:43 -0000 Received: from mpx.com.au(really [198.142.180.24]) by mailarray.mpx.com.au via smtpd with smtp id for ; Mon, 17 May 99 23:43:58 +1000 (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.13.SOL #30.20 built 28-jun-97) From: Dominique Harelle To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:43:56 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Doms Computer Systems (DCS) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 97ce09a67781597b97b4c0a92ca2cab4 From: Dominique Harelle >From : Jeff Brown Date : 17-May-99 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 Hello Jeff, > From: Jeff Brown >> The picture.datatype supplied with P96 has AGA support - this should >> work just fine on AGA machines. But, as you say, AGA support was >> dropped from the different v43 datatype for CGX. > Oh! I've been hearing this, and even went to the point of downloading > P96 to check it out. Careful examination of the docs pointed out that it > would *not* work without a gfx card. > I'll try again, this time, ignoring the docs. =) I have it installed on my sons A1200 without problems. I am not sure what benefits it gives hime but it does work. Regards Dom... -- Dominique Harelle - http://www.mpx.com.au/~dharelle/index.html E-Mail : /dharelle@excite.com/ (/dharelle@mpx.com.au/) ICQ Number - /17907440/ A2000/060-60, 130meg RAM, 7Gig HD's, 2 x 24x CD's, 56k Modem, PicassoIV + Picasso96, Zip Drive, IOBlix i/o Board, 3x HD FDD, Epson GT-8500 Scaner, BJC-620 Printer, Catweasel Z2 Member of Team *AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Final Countdown is here! http://www.ONElist.com Join the "Star Wars" craze at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Mon May 17 15:25:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24302 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:17:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 17701 invoked by alias); 17 May 1999 19:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17603 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 19:17:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.38) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:17:39 -0000 Received: from [193.237.50.6] (helo=a51krew.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10jStm-000BHq-0A for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:18:04 +0000 Message-ID: <37403507.453D2A7@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:25:59 +0100 From: Alan Gryniewicz Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 91945d81daf14f858a025674ba54f735 From: Alan Gryniewicz > > If Anyone Has The Number Why Dont We All Just Ring It Or Would That Be > > Considered As Hacking ???? > Well I for a FACT know i've got 4 people to put my name in and havn't > heard diddly from them, i reckon its a big ploy to get a mass spam list > to spam everyone. They know most people will jump at the chance of > an 0800 number. I don't know anyone who has an account, until I see > proof or get mine which i'm owed i won't believe it. Well, in case anyone is interested here`s a little bit of information I came across if anyone has any problems with spam from these guys! -cut- Ok, it's official, it was a scam....here are their dox: 12 Trent Crescent Bicester Oxon, UK Tel: +44 (0)1869325139 Fax: +44 (0)1869325139 Their system is a unix box, runnng unknown os (maybe redhat) using wu-ftpd2.4.2BETA15. Wot you do with this is up to you :) -cut- Oh yeah, remember how fast a modern modem can fill a fax machine up with about 20-30 pages!!!!!! *EvilGrin* C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... 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Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Mon May 17 22:34:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA17291 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:54:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 11664 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 07:56:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11653 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 07:55:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 07:55:58 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-46.cvx2.telinco.net ([212.1.144.46] helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10jegi-0003sQ-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:53:20 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:34:17 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: e9fdfd48d2678f3b9599bacadd449c83 From: Nik Williams Hi ya, What is the best available Word Processing package on the Amiga? I need to know what it's like compared to Word and how much it costs. Thanks for any help.. See ya -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Tue May 18 04:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA06052 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 03:29:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 7769 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 03:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 7756 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 03:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 03:31:01 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.magma.ca [206.191.0.218]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17877 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port187.magma.ca [206.191.5.187]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13308 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:30:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 9b583d9f52ee299f07ea3a308942b4d9 From: Jeff Brown > I have it installed on my sons A1200 without problems. I am not sure > what benefits it gives hime but it does work. It improves the display of datatype-based images, while reducing the overall pen usage (read: waste). The dithering is quite good, and is certainly a welcome improvement over WB3.x's traditional image quantization scheme *shudder*. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "Motherless," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com See our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Tue May 18 06:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA02270 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:30:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 24349 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 06:31:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24341 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 06:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 06:31:33 -0000 Received: from metro.bahnhof.se (metro.bahnhof.se [195.178.160.40]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06260 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:27:22 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:27:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jonas Thorell To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [just-amiga] picture datatype V43 X-UIDL: 3ebf1ae048b6c608c69b06f9a30975ec From: Jonas Thorell On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jeff Brown wrote: > Oh! I've been hearing this, and even went to the point of downloading > P96 to check it out. Careful examination of the docs pointed out that it > would *not* work without a gfx card. > I'll try again, this time, ignoring the docs. =) Do that because it works :-) but a lot better with a gfx-card. /Jonas ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From drstrange@jps.net Tue May 18 06:41:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA04700 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:43:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 26824 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 06:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26784 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 06:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.jps.net) (209.63.224.55) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 06:44:38 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-246.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.246]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08439 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:44:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Tierno To: Amiga Info Online Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:41:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] SIMMS X-UIDL: 13d4b7518aea30eb9180bad4a8664085 From: Mark Tierno I have an A4000 wth the Cyberstorm Mk II. Anyone know if EDO SIMMS will work in it's SIMM slots? Later. -- Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. -- James P. Hogan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue May 18 08:45:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA31758 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:38:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 2769 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 01:38:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2755 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:38:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:38:41 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-33.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.36]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17823 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:39:14 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Mark Tierno Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:45:06 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] SIMMS X-UIDL: 5e1e88fbaf17fd7eb1c817b9bad05072 From: Colin Wenzel On 18-May-99, Mark Tierno wrote: >From: Mark Tierno >I have an A4000 wth the Cyberstorm Mk II. Anyone know if EDO SIMMS will >work in it's SIMM slots? >Later. >-- >Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. >-- James P. Hogan Yep- sure will, but make sure that to put them in MATCHED pairs. (same brand,speed,look) Don't mix & match between bank pairs either (as far as speed goes) It requires that they be 60nS or better. 70nS can be used but you need to add wait states to use them. That slows down your machine a bit. Have a look at your options in the config menu...... (Reboot & then hold down the key. ) -------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060/50 150Mb RAM. -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From topgun@pop.ch Tue May 18 09:56:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05171 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:56:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 7132 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 09:57:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 7125 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 09:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xariffusion) (195.141.232.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 09:57:06 -0000 Received: from pop-ls-07-1-dialup-30.freesurf.ch (pop-ls-07-1-dialup-30.freesurf.ch [194.230.15.30]) by xariffusion (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ca013028 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:58:21 +0100 From: Michael Jaccoud To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:56:38 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] SIMMS X-UIDL: 4ea75a0b9bc07b426f08848e5b49012d From: Michael Jaccoud Hallo Mark Am 18-Mai-99 schrieb Mark Tierno > From: Mark Tierno > > I have an A4000 wth the Cyberstorm Mk II. Anyone know if EDO SIMMS will > work in it's SIMM slots? No problem here (AFAIR it's explained in the docu). Only the MK1 can't use EDO. -- Gruss, Michael Jaccoud -------------------------------------------------------- Best regards Return mail address: Michael Jaccoud topgun@pop.ch -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From getthepoint_ami@hotmail.com Tue May 18 11:49:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f232.hotmail.com [207.82.251.123]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25114 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:49:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 30560 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 11:49:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518114946.30559.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.66.96.2 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 04:49:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.66.96.2] From: "The Point" To: just-amiga@onelist.com, afb@egroups.com, amformat@futurenet.co.uk, amiga@thefree.net, amithyst_mag@yahoo.com Subject: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:49:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; X-UIDL: f10f3094d09f216b37810065aa2c503d \\\\THE-\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ///////POINT//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// PRESS RELEASE Background Info: The-Point is one of the longest running Amiga electronic magazines. It started life back in June of 1992 under the name "Page" and part of the old Amiga group "Jemsoft". Jemsoft parted in 1997 and Page was renamed The-Point in September '97 and became an on-line publication. After 7 long years of development and information our current era has come to an end. Issue 54 will be the last issue from the team that started the mag back in '92. Editor Dan Wood started the original diskmag, and wrote the pilot publication "T.A.D". Dept editor Nick Anderson (also editor of RIPMag) joined in 1997 and due to time contraints, can no longer continue with the magazine. Luckily The-Point has been saved from extincition by Amiga group "Trogladite software" who have kindly offered to take-over the running and development of the magazine from Point-Productions. Firstly hello to your new editor! Neil Bullock Contact: About Anything Amiga related. Interests: Amiga Programming, Internet, Music, Londis Own Brand Cola :) Favourite Music: The Corrs (mainly), Queen and B*Witched (looks like this issue'll be the last time you get bombarded with articles about house and UK garage then - DAN :) Most Hated Thing: Bill Gates! Favourite Food: McDonalds Big Mac Favourite Amiga Program (Game or App): Workbench! Sam Brookes Contact: About Amiga or PC, hardware or software problems. Blitz, JavaScript and HTML stuff solved. Or if you are building a cheap PC (Well would you pay full price?). Interests: Amiga`s :), programming computers in lots of languages. Prefere programming my Amiga in Blitz and C. Also computers and anything electrical, electronics, humour, music (I play guitar). Favourite Music: Music taste: Metal, Grunge, Punk and most of the variations. Favourite bands = White Zombie, Placebo, MegaDeth and The OffSpring (hate the new album!) Most Hated Thing: I hate Microsoft and almost all M$ products! and I also hate pop music!!! Favourite Food: If it edibile I`ll eat it - Favourite would have to be McDonalds CheeseBurgers :) (3x Cheese Burgers, 2x Large Fries and a Large Chocolate Milkshake. Mmm...Cheese Burgers :) Favourite Amiga Program (Game or App): haven`t got one - have 3 favorite: The Settlers (Classic), K240 (I haven`t played this for 5 years as I never owned it, just borrowed :( ) and Blitz Basic (My favourate app by far!). I'm sure there'll be loads of other's helping, and of course YOU! The-Point has always been strong thanks to reader-interaction, so reader submissions are essential. The final issue should be on-line now at: www.geocities.com/timessquare/lair/9050 You can check out the new website for "The-Point" soon at: www.thepoint.free-online.co.uk As an additional bonus we have re-released our first issue with a special "Gold" edition (NewIcons and cleaned up look) you can download the new issue 1 from the website. For further information or questions, please contact Dan Wood at: GetThePoint_Ami@Hotmail.com Dan Wood Ex-Editor of The-Point The-Point is a member of Point-Productions, also the home of RIPMag, DoubleClick, WOA and Amiga Choice. ==THE======== ======POINT== ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 18 17:11:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13130 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:11:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 9345 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 17:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9337 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 17:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 17:11:54 -0000 Received: from modem-74.name53.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.186.74] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10jnPW-000544-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:12:10 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: Just Amiga Mailing List Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: 75514aa326e38739b0d6fc7872c4e0cd From: Matthew O'Neill does anyone here have their amiga set up to connect with free4all and use AMiTCP (came with netconnect 1) thanks Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 18 17:14:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA18139 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:51:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 19908 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 20:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 19901 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:53:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:53:09 -0000 Received: from modem-247.name65.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.192.247] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10jqqg-0005UK-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:52:28 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:14:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: dc4d0a6b4d792c95a5fc5d15d2311fc9 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Nik On 17-May-99, you wrote: > Hi ya, > What is the best available Word Processing package on the > Amiga? I need to know what it's like compared to Word and how much it > costs. best bet is wordworth7, dunno how much, but you can also get the digita office cd with spread sheets and stuff on it for a little bit more Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Reality? I'll only go as a tourist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From peter@amigauniverse.co.uk Tue May 18 17:43:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02971 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:22:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 6820 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 19:24:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6815 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:24:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:24:01 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.114] (helo=amigauni.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10jpOT-0001tO-00; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:19:14 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:43:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Amiga Universe Organisation Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: 7fdf5e2c49e43872e526af44783a81c5 From: Peter Price Nik Williams scribbled with a virtual Biro about [just-amiga] Word Processors : > What is the best available Word Processing package on the > Amiga? I need to know what it's like compared to Word and how much it > costs. I've only ever used Wordworth on the Amiga, so I'd say that was the best, but I'm sure a Final Writer user will tell me otherwise. :) Compared to Word the Amiga word processors are a lot faster and more responsive. But they are also seriously feature-lacking. We should give them Diet Tango. They need it because they're weak. :) Best Regards -- Peter Price - Amiga Universe - http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/ The site that gives you everything. Mirrors. IRC Channel. Mailing List. Administrator - ARCNet, #amigacafe and #amigaUni If you know the spelling of a word, you will err anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wayne@here.is Tue May 18 17:58:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23084 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:07:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 24053 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 18:08:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23974 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:08:12 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese26.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.126]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA21933 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:24:00 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: http://here.is/wayne Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: Re: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: 3d2f2c8d3e526b723786c891f65889fd From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Matthew On 18-May-99 Matthew O'Neill wrote : > From: Matthew O'Neill > does anyone here have their amiga set up to connect with free4all > and use AMiTCP (came with netconnect 1) I use Miami (demo) with Free4all if that helps ? Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < > One2One Mobile Email : SMSwayne@here.is - NO sigs/tags/html please < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Tue May 18 19:12:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA15673 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:40:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 10526 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 20:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29292 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:29:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:29:49 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.182] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A062865E0354; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:32:50 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:12:38 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Fortress interview for AIO, questions wanted. X-UIDL: da24097dd22d13aad53866b7baf3f6af From: Chris Seward We have secured an interview with the team *Fortress*. If you don't know who these are then you may have heard of a game released not so long ago called *Max Rally*. It was reviewed in issue 18, November 1998 of AIO and got an overall score of 88% with quote "A good effort, I want to see more of this" If you have any questions you would like us to ask Fortress then please send them to, *general@aio.co.uk* Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What was YOUR favorite part?! http://www.onelist.com Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Tue May 18 19:13:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA15710 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:41:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 11017 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 20:37:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 29310 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:29:57 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.201.182] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A06A865E0354; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:32:58 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:13:19 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: 9f375f74061b8f21c9b720758fed32de From: Chris Seward Hey all! Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have the same system running and the message appears in that? If not would anyone be interested in writing one? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From dck@hol.gr Tue May 18 19:38:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05554 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:41:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 4337 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 19:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4325 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.hol.gr) (194.30.192.21) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 14184 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:41:34 -0000 Received: from async028.ath03.tlc.hol.gr (HELO sdgfsd) (firewall-user@194.30.216.31) by mail.hol.gr with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:41:34 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990518223857.007d1100@mail.hol.gr> X-Sender: dck@mail.hol.gr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:38:57 +0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: "D.Keletsekis" In-Reply-To: <927014492.4824@onelist.com> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [just-amiga] SIMMS (not) X-UIDL: 4579603ee73abb2b0d578bbed4e15f21 From: "D.Keletsekis" > From: Mark Tierno >Subject: SIMMS Love your tagline :-) >Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice. >-- James P. Hogan Very deep. Reminds me of another one: - Principles are like farts - you hold them as long as you can. Who would have thought you could learn so much from farts ? :-) dck ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Tue May 18 20:48:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17764 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:47:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 23036 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 20:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23031 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 20:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 20:48:20 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (ppp-port1-52.tranquility.net [206.152.118.52]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA15520 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:48:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3741D216.C67FE38C@tranquility.net> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:48:22 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: 779b546c1a541e3deb1e71f1ee69406b From: Jim Mackoy Rebol lets you do just that. I tried it the other night. There may be other ways, but Rebol definitely works. You can download it at www.rebol.com Jim Chris Seward wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Hey all! > > Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to > send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the > IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the > other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have > the same system running and the message appears in that? > > If not would anyone be interested in writing one? > > Toodle Pip! > -- > Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk > *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 > Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha > Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking to expand your world? > http://www.onelist.com > ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Tue May 18 21:15:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20774 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:04:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 29166 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 17:04:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29126 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 17:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:04:49 -0000 Received: from modem-13.name57.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.188.13] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10k9mI-0006qz-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:05:11 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: a35ba7bbddc3975519df5278fe8aea02 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Wayne On 18-May-99, you wrote: >> does anyone here have their amiga set up to connect with free4all >> and use AMiTCP (came with netconnect 1) > I use Miami (demo) with Free4all if that helps ? not really, I don't wanna use a 30 minute demo :/ Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Investment strategy? How 'bout negotiable blondes? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's finally here! What's your opinion? http://www.onelist.com Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jonasth@bahnhof.se Tue May 18 21:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA24386 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:31:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 11632 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 21:33:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11627 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:33:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sunny.bahnhof.se) (193.44.91.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:33:26 -0000 Received: from default (pm2-18.bahnhof.se [195.178.166.91]) by sunny.bahnhof.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA15014 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:28:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:30:13 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEA186.61028FC0.jonasth@bahnhof.se> From: Jonas Thorell To: "'just-amiga@onelist.com'" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:29:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: fc0ae259ba83c9d83474e42784d801ab From: Jonas Thorell Sorry for using Outlook...it probably makes things look like hell... AmiTALK is not Amiga-only, it's a general talk-program that works just on every platform that can speak TCP/IP. I've never met anyone besides some Amiga users and a couple of Linux users that has actually used it though. StrICQ is the best for cross-platform compatibility and ease of use, otherwise AmiComSYS exists. Basically a ICQ-clone without the ICQ protocol if you see what I mean. Originated on the Amiga and I think there were plans to port it to Windows but I don't know what happened with that idea. /Jonas -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Crowe [SMTP:andrewcrowe@enterprise.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:18 AM To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? From: Andrew Crowe >> Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to >> send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > > This is what ICQ is for yea? I think there is an amiga only program called 'AmiTALK', but it'd be better using STRICQ anyway. 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X-UIDL: d3d61b3ea5b32ac4abed98816048688d From: "Bradley Smith" ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Seward To: Sent: 18 May 1999 20:13 Subject: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? > From: Chris Seward > > Hey all! > > Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to > send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the > IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the > other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have > the same system running and the message appears in that? Yes, there is.. and I wrote it... check out BSP-WAEchoD on aminet, it allows you to send short messages via telnet... 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See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Tue May 18 22:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA28381 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:33:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 8061 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 14:34:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 8055 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 14:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 14:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25881 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 14:34:13 -0000 Received: from tnt-2-199.easynet.co.uk (195.40.196.199) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 19 May 1999 14:34:13 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 18 May 99 22:03:32 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 0.238 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: ed34882abf1334eab766524e898d7a46 From: "Andy Kinsella" Peter Price said this... > From: Peter Price > > Nik Williams scribbled with a virtual Biro about [just-amiga] Word Processors : > > > What is the best available Word Processing package on the > > Amiga? I need to know what it's like compared to Word and how much it > > costs. > > I've only ever used Wordworth on the Amiga, so I'd say that was the best, > but I'm sure a Final Writer user will tell me otherwise. :) > > Compared to Word the Amiga word processors are a lot faster and more > responsive. But they are also seriously feature-lacking. We should give them > Diet Tango. They need it because they're weak. :) I wouldn't say Finalwriter ond wordworth are weak! Far from it. If I want to word process i use a word processor, if i want to do all that fluffy stuff word does, I pop my document into Pagestream and do it there. Much better it is too. I have to use Word quite a lot (unfortunately). There's nothing I have ever needed to use in word that I can't do in FW. Except maybe merge some addresses from access (urgh!) or summat. WW and FW are both very capable wordprocessors, and I guess Word is too 8) If you need to lark about adding pictures and and adding textframes and all that malarky, I suggest using a real DTP proglet :) getting back to the fellers original question. I prefer FW over WW, but FW is in some kind of developement Limbo, so I'd probably plumb for WW which is still fully supported i believe(?) Both should ineterface with word via RTF. I take FW doc's into word via RTF and it seems to take the formatting over 100% (not objects though) > > Best Regards > -- > Peter Price - Amiga Universe - http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk/ > The site that gives you everything. Mirrors. IRC Channel. Mailing List. > -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From pwcomp@elevate.demon.co.uk Tue May 18 22:13:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA20681 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:12:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 21371 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 21:14:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21340 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 21:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.39) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 21:14:14 -0000 Received: from [158.152.245.226] (helo=elevate) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10jrBH-0001Qy-0B for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:13:44 +0000 From: Paul Compton To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Elevate BBS Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: 79b1ed67d6e9ca4087dc6e1922f1d137 From: Paul Compton On 18-May-99, Chris wrote about [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? Hello Chris CS> Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to CS> send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? This is what ICQ is for yea? Paul from Elevate -- #Elevate# #BBS# http://www.elevate.demon.co.uk UK registration site for Virus Checker II, WebPlug, MapPlug and Spot All running on a 060/50 4k, and, well, lots of bits! 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X-UIDL: b39b43d6dd90ab857bec5458c4b7797f From: Andrew Crowe >> Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to >> send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > > This is what ICQ is for yea? I think there is an amiga only program called 'AmiTALK', but it'd be better using STRICQ anyway. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://members.tripod.com/~mantasoft/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 29/4/99 --- Bomberman clone major update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kwdjc@wf.net Tue May 18 23:37:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12732 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:36:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 26201 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 23:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26152 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:37:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:37:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16805 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 18:37:47 -0500 Received: from mw-pm4-9.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.18) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 18 May 1999 18:37:47 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: aa1f0afb479bdd784ac71abcb971a3c6 From: Kenneth Craig Hello Chris, On 18-May-99, Chris Seward wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Hey all! > > Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to > send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the > IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the > other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have > the same system running and the message appears in that? > You can use AmTalk from vapor.com or if you want a good Amiga to Amiga client you might want to try AmiComSys at http://surf.to/AmiComSys, or get Stricq which is an Amiga ICQ client from http://www.owlnet.net/amiga/stricq. Kenneth -- I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Wed May 19 00:10:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.223]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA07905 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:09:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 32191 invoked by alias); 18 May 1999 23:10:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 32092 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 23:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 23:10:47 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.135.64]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA21981 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:31:29 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:10:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: 4f2d51f4592773fc251a17060b88887d From: Nik Williams Hello Matthew On 18-May-99, you wrote: >> Hi ya, >> What is the best available Word Processing package on the >> Amiga? I need to know what it's like compared to Word and how much it >> costs. > > best bet is wordworth7, dunno how much, but you can also get the digita > office cd with spread sheets and stuff on it for a little bit more Cheers mate... -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What was YOUR favorite part?! http://www.onelist.com Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 19 01:51:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA01303 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:50:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 6656 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 01:50:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6640 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:50:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:50:47 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-33.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.36]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17846 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:51:24 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Chris Seward Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:51:30 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: 2d116a9aabe71630d75341883df3da88 From: Colin Wenzel On 19-May-99, Chris Seward wrote: >From: Chris Seward >Hey all! >Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to >send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? >I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the >IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the >other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have >the same system running and the message appears in that? >If not would anyone be interested in writing one? >Toodle Pip! Whats wrong with: AmiComSys or strICQ... ?? -------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060/50 150Mb RAM. -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kludge@magma.ca Wed May 19 02:09:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA01280 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:48:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 4522 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 01:48:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4516 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 01:48:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.magmacom.com) (206.191.0.217) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 01:48:44 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2y.magma.ca [206.191.0.227]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25122 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magma.ca (kludge@port148.magma.ca [206.191.5.148]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA08773 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Brown To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:09:15 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Wink Software Development Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: 9002313ab1992df7ed4edbf3cc5091cc From: Jeff Brown > Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to > send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the > IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the > other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have > the same system running and the message appears in that? Get STRICQ! =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com Wed May 19 06:16:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01154 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:09:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 6311 invoked by alias); 20 May 1999 17:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6250 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:10:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rachel.anthesi.com) (195.32.118.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:10:05 -0000 Received: from [195.32.118.170] by rachel.anthesi.com (NTMail 3.03.0014/1.aaup) with ESMTP id ia749068 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:06:42 +0200 From: Riccardo Cretti To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:16:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/"; street="Via Grez 76"; city="38066 Riva del Garda (TN)"; country="Italy"; phone="+39 0464556811"; dob=16011976 X-Info: . Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Simple message sender over the net? X-UIDL: dd47dd914d7c5a2621d9099c37623664 From: Riccardo Cretti Hello Chris! On 18-Mag-99, you wrote: > Would anyone happen to know if there is a simple Amiga only program to > send a message to another user connected on the net at that moment? > I only want like a simple system of type in your message, type in the > IP of the user you want to send the message to and then either on the > other users computer a window opens with the message in or they have > the same system running and the message appears in that? What do you think of StrICQ 0.1371? You don't need to type the IP of the friend connected to the net, and you can send messages, files, or chat with him. The latest version is available in the Aminet recent list. -- Riccardo Cretti - mailto:CrettiRiccardo@anthesi.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5413/ ICQ 15927849 A proud owner of two Amiga, a Playstation and a C64! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed May 19 18:48:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09446 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:01:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 15255 invoked by alias); 20 May 1999 18:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15036 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 18:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 May 1999 18:01:18 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m002-p008.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.240.72]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.13) with SMTP id GAA25626; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:01:27 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: "John R. Jira" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 05:48:08 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15199935676287.Amiga@smtp.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] (no subject) Finding Pictures X-UIDL: 937780b773c2eb0fe5c254f11634fc0e From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what John R. Jira wrote on 16-May-99: |>Go to the Alta Vista search engine and |>use picture search. Type in what |>picture you want and stand back for |>picture overload :-) Well that worked! Ta. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Just a mortal with the potential of a superman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Wed May 19 19:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11376 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:10:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 28434 invoked by alias); 20 May 1999 18:11:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 28419 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 18:11:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 May 1999 18:11:41 -0000 Received: from modem-2.name43.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.181.2] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10kXHh-0003rr-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:11:09 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:01:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Word Processors X-UIDL: 60b5f518ce68d7d4c3e1f9ea320ed21c From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Andy On 18-May-99, you wrote: > getting back to the fellers original question. I prefer FW over WW, > but FW is in some kind of developement Limbo, so I'd probably plumb > for WW which is still fully supported i believe(?) Both should > ineterface with word via RTF. I take FW doc's into word via RTF and it > seems to take the formatting over 100% (not objects though) Well you can still het support from digita, but they are no longer developing it :( Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan A woman must be a genius to create a good husband. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wayne@here.is Wed May 19 19:20:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA14688 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:35:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 31395 invoked by alias); 19 May 1999 19:35:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31365 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 19:35:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:35:48 -0000 Received: from pyrah.otago.co.uk (pyrah@cheese21.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.121]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA04143 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:51:57 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:20:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: http://here.is/wayne Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: Re: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: 3d50f67c7fc026556c57adbe8f072ee3 From: Wayne Pyrah - h y p e r b o y - Hi Matthew On 18-May-99 Matthew O'Neill wrote : > From: Matthew O'Neill > Hi Wayne > On 18-May-99, you wrote: >>> does anyone here have their amiga set up to connect with free4all >>> and use AMiTCP (came with netconnect 1) >> I use Miami (demo) with Free4all if that helps ? > not really, I don't wanna use a 30 minute demo :/ Its not 30 minutes, its an hour and you can easily click online again after you have been disconnected if an hour is not enough. Regards, +W A Y N E+ *[ h y p e r b o y ]* -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < > One2One Mobile Email : SMSwayne@here.is - NO sigs/tags/html please < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From cb.price@ukonline.co.uk Thu May 20 17:37:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08617 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:48:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 25564 invoked by alias); 20 May 1999 17:48:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25549 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:48:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wookey.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 61277 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 17:49:22 -0000 Received: from tnt-8-364.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (195.40.205.108) by wookey.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:49:22 -0000 From: Phil Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:37:50 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Central Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] 2 CDDrive Problems :( X-UIDL: 8c11bfcfd9acc8a7499fe07268a962d3 From: Phil Price Hello all, I'm havig great problems with dosdrivers for 2 cd-rom drivers, what ever i try to do to them, both CD Drives don't want to work 100%, I have a EIDE'99 Buffer for PowerComputing. The Driver for the buffer Reconises them, root@a1200 [Workbench:C]>4xEIDE.driver Primary Master ATA PIO4 SAMSUNG SW0434A (4.3GB) 4304MB Primary Slave ATAPI PIO3 MATSHITA CR-581-M Secondary Master ATAPI PIO4 CRW9420 The main problem is when ever i change disk the CD0 (matshita) drive does't want to see the new one, and CD1 (CD-RW) just don't want to work any way. I have got them to work to ovaring decreggs of success but it seems to be very tempremental.. Tbhe current Dos Driver i use is for both drives (with the unit number changed). FileSystem = L:CacheCDFS /* The name of the game */ Device = "atapi.device" /* Name of exec device driver */ Unit = 1 /* exec device unit */ Flags = 0 /* OpenDevice flags */ BlocksPerTrack = 351000 /* Unused */ BlockSize = 2048 /* True, but unused */ Mask = 0x7ffffffe /* Memory mask for direct read */ MaxTransfer = 0x100000 /* Maximum amount of bytes for direct read */ Reserved = 0 /* Unused */ Interleave = 0 /* Unused */ LowCyl = 0 /* Unused */ HighCyl = 0 /* Unused */ Surfaces = 1 /* Unused */ Buffers = 50 /* Number of cache lines */ BufMemType = 1 /* MEMF_PUBLIC */ GlobVec = -1 /* Do not change! */ Mount = 1 /* Mount it immediately */ Priority = 10 /* Priority of FileSystem task */ DosType = 0x43443031 /* Currently unused */ StackSize = 3000 /* Minimum stack required is 3000! */ Control = "MD=0 LC=1 DC=3 AL LFC=1 AUDIO=workbench:tools/playcd/playcd" I have both AmiCDFS and CacheCDFS and atapi.device and the virtual scsi.device, i don't know which to use or what to do I really need some help, as this is starting to get anoying. Yours -- +-------------------- A M I G A - C E N T R A L --------------------+ | [- The Online Amiga Magazine -] | | Phil Price icq : 21418142 | | Editor / Webmaster Supporting the Amiga | | phil@amigacentral.com http://www.amigacentral.com | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you hogging all the fun? http://www.onelist.com Friends tell friends about ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Thu May 20 20:39:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA26504 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:40:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 19389 invoked by alias); 20 May 1999 19:41:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 19382 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 19:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 May 1999 19:41:30 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.248] (helo=p120.nas4.is5.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10kYcJ-0001d0-00; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:36:31 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Organization: private user Date: 20 May 99 20:39:26 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.2 [NC2-#00000099] Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: 52be8663a538708b6726917463499510 From: "Paul Dixon" > From: Matthew O'Neill > > Hi Wayne > > On 18-May-99, you wrote: > > >> does anyone here have their amiga set up to connect with free4all > >> and use AMiTCP (came with netconnect 1) > > > I use Miami (demo) with Free4all if that helps ? > > not really, I don't wanna use a 30 minute demo :/ I have my 1200 up and running with free4all, BUT I use Netconnect 2 Whats the problem ? Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Fri May 21 23:56:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03454 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:05:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 32053 invoked by alias); 21 May 1999 23:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 32018 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:05:53 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9A067450268; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:09:36 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:56:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WOA '99 X-UIDL: 687eb392bfac67bee777c8dc6717fe1a From: Chris Seward Tim, On 16-May-99, you wrote: > I think you'll find that coach companies already run coaches from > most cities to London. There's also trains - Virgin Cross-country > have some pretty good deals (although you'd have to allow a good bit > of extra time, as they're never on tim!). I already know that they run coach trips and also the trains but I thought it would be easier than looking around myself. You also have the added benifit of it dropping you outside the venue itself. I'm glad the trains are never on you otherwise it could be painful :) Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the nearly 150,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Fri May 21 23:57:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03471 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:05:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 615 invoked by alias); 21 May 1999 23:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 601 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 23:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 May 1999 23:06:25 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.114] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9C167450268; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:10:09 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:57:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37403507.453D2A7@a51krew.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 05e0665f8a329e74a4a9d1d6828ce049 From: Chris Seward Alan, On 17-May-99, you wrote: > Ok, it's official, it was a scam....here are their dox: > Tel: +44 (0)1869325139 > Oh yeah, remember how fast a modern modem can fill a fax machine up with > about 20-30 pages!!!!!! *EvilGrin* Are you sure its a scam? i've phoned the number and someone picked up and said 'Hello, Freecall' ??? anyone got any ideas on this, I didn't bother speaking because I had nothing to ask, but if it is a scam why have they got someone sitting there? Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Sat May 22 10:09:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15550 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:16:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 12404 invoked by alias); 22 May 1999 14:16:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12354 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 14:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 May 1999 14:16:53 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.135.34]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA11405 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:39:04 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:09:28 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: 31a7ab689ee00c5af88f96aaeee7e04e From: Nik Williams Hello Chris On 21-May-99, you wrote: > From: Chris Seward > > Alan, > > On 17-May-99, you wrote: > >> Ok, it's official, it was a scam....here are their dox: > >> Tel: +44 (0)1869325139 > >> Oh yeah, remember how fast a modern modem can fill a fax machine up > with >> about 20-30 pages!!!!!! *EvilGrin* > > Are you sure its a scam? i've phoned the number and someone picked > up and said 'Hello, Freecall' ??? anyone got any ideas on this, I didn't > bother speaking because I had nothing to ask, but if it is a scam why > have they got someone sitting there? Because it is a scam? -- Nik Williams Peterborough England Powered by Amiga... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Sat May 22 15:06:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10728 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:11:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 20882 invoked by alias); 22 May 1999 17:11:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20875 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 17:11:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 May 1999 17:11:31 -0000 Received: from modem-88.name10.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.164.216] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lFJR-0005q9-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:11:53 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: Just Amiga Mailing List Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:06:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] tape streamer X-UIDL: 191effb38a10b9f17d168fdd63efa2a7 From: Matthew O'Neill Lo there Hey, does anyone know if its possible to use a parallel (or serial) tape streamer with the 1200? I've recently managed to blag one off of someone, along with 4 250 meg tapes. I've seen several scsi drivers on aminet but I cant find any parallel ones :(( is it possible, if not then would it work with one of the many clockport addons ? please help, I wanna backup my drive!!! :) -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan Yo mama so fat, she got hit by a truck and asked "Who threw that rock?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 22 20:20:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA32424 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:29:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 4473 invoked by alias); 22 May 1999 19:30:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4437 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 19:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 May 1999 19:30:18 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.134] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A898980A0200; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:34:00 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Off-Topic Free Internet Access X-UIDL: cf40d83797b7ba5ae8e4bff7619ee018 From: Chris Seward Nik, On 22-May-99, you wrote: > Because it is a scam? Ohhh, yeh! Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 22 20:39:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02003 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:38:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 15086 invoked by alias); 22 May 1999 19:39:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15080 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 19:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 May 1999 19:39:03 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.134] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id AAA6228101F8; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:42:46 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:39:27 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO issue 24 out now! X-UIDL: ff33021d7b40f67db2cc12bdd691ff01 From: Chris Seward Amiga Information Online issue 24 out now (22.5.99) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Issue 24, May 1999. of Amiga Information Online (AIO) has been released today 22nd May 1999. This months magazine is to the usual high quality that you have come to get used to. With some of this months features to look for listed below, - MASSIVE Interview with Digital Dreams Entertainment - New commercial racer demo reviewed - 10 Games reviews, 17 news stories - FULL review of Napalm by clickBOOM - AIO website database gets bigger! - DOpus tutorial part 1 - IRC interview with Dr. Allan Havemose - Disadvantages of being on the internet with an Amiga, Part II - Many quality utilities reviews Plus many more articles, reviews of games and utilities, news, adverts and other features to see. This months issue can be downloaded from URL : http://www.aio.co.uk (Online now) Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV24.lha (Online 24th May) Don't forget to send us your letters about anything to, letters@aio.co.uk and support us with your own reviews, articles and news stories. Visits our website at, HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK Chris Seward Editor of Amiga Information Online chris@aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's finally here! What's your opinion? http://www.onelist.com Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wayne@here.is Sun May 23 17:12:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA17437 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:34:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 14154 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 22:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14147 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:34:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:34:54 -0000 Received: from wayne.here.is (pyrah@cheese24.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.124]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA18910 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:52:19 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:12:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Problems with Epson Stylus 300 Colour X-UIDL: 5c12bb8783eedca26f86d40bfe6b6580 Status: U From: Wayne Pyrah > From: Colin Wenzel > On 24-May-99, Wayne Pyrah wrote: >> From: Wayne Pyrah >> Hi all >> I don't know whether anyone can help me with my printer problems. >> I have just purchased a used printer (Epson Stylus 300) and am having >> trouble getting anything out of it at all, even text ! > Oops !!! Epsom Stylus is a GRAPHICS ONLY printer, > you want a 400 or later to use with your Amiga. > Otherwise, you need to get a driver for it from: > http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/index.html No that doesn't work for me, so mine must be the newer one. However the web site is very good and very useful for anything at all to do with printing. > Plus, You will have to use it with Turboprint..... Thanks for the help Colin. I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure out what it was. I have checked up on TurboPrint and it costs £40 !!! - Is it really worth the money ? Does anyone know if there is an alternative out there or a demo ? 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If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wayne@here.is Sun May 23 19:14:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA17942 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:31:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 2679 invoked by alias); 25 May 1999 23:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16233 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 23:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otago.co.uk) (195.182.175.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 23:22:09 -0000 Received: from wayne.here.is (pyrah@cheese21.otago.co.uk [195.182.175.121]) by otago.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA03833 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:39:34 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Wayne Pyrah To: Just-Amiga Mailing List Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:14:58 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Problems with Epson Stylus 300 Colour X-UIDL: 729c08f37ee5326398ec419beccf6fa2 From: Wayne Pyrah Hi all I don't know whether anyone can help me with my printer problems. I have just purchased a used printer (Epson Stylus 300) and am having trouble getting anything out of it at all, even text ! The printer was previously used on a PC and worked fine, so I don't know why it isn't working here. When I print, I have tried direct to PAR: and the same occurs. What happens is for example a directory printout - parts of the printout are missing, it doesn't matter how many times I try I also get exactly the same problem where the text is missing in exactly the same places ( I tried 5 times in a row ) I though to start it was a printer problems as pictures are not working either, they just come out a gubblegooked text even with the proper driver from Aminet. So far the only legible printout I have managed to get is the self test on the printer and one program from Aminet called the Epson Stylus Colour utility which allows you to clean nozzles, align the heads, things like that and also allows you to print a test page which works absolutely perfect ! The only thing I can think of is the cable, I have tried 2 cables both from Epson dot printers which work fine on those but not for me. Could it be the wrong sort of cable ? - Any ideas greatly appreciated ! Regards, Wayne -- From : Wayne Pyrah - Lincoln, England, UK ~ Web : http://here.is/Wayne > Direct Fax : +44 (0) 870 740 2523 ~ Direct Phone : +44 (0) 700 534 8196 < > One2One Mobile Email : SMSwayne@here.is - NO sigs/tags/html please < Personal and National Rate numbers FREE at http://listen.to/grays/ NOW ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From eunderli@online.no Sun May 23 19:39:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30181 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:42:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 16959 invoked by alias); 23 May 1999 22:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16951 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 22:43:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO online.no) (148.122.208.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 May 1999 22:43:40 -0000 Received: from ti21a97-0223.dialup.online.no (ti21a97-0223.dialup.online.no [130.67.200.223]) by online.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA08679 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:43:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: 24 May 99 00:39:19 +0500 From: "Even Sandvik Underlid" To: "Dave Humphreys" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <522.813T967T392567eunderli@online.no> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: ced4e28ede9fa550206d4912d04384f3 From: "Even Sandvik Underlid" >From: Dave Humphreys >The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement of >this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) i've >found that the source code will not be released. This means that any >developement would need to be started from scratch. I cannot help you programming, but I would like to say that the project sounds interesting, and I would love to use the finished product and come up with suggestions etc. -- Even Sandvik Underlid ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alden1@airmail.net Sun May 23 22:50:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA32548 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:50:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 25372 invoked by alias); 23 May 1999 22:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 25334 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 22:52:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 May 1999 22:52:27 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.16.57] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.400) with smtp for sender: id ; Sun, 23 May 99 17:51:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:50:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: d8e77939c06e83490bc845fda2920955 From: Jon Peterson Hello Dave On 23-May-99, you wrote: > From: Dave Humphreys > We all know that Imagestudio has been out of developement for the last > couple of years. > The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement of > this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) i've > found that the source code will not be released. This means that any > developement would need to be started from scratch. Wish I had some idea of what programming was about. Although I registered the program waaayyy back and have used it on occasion, it is still quite capable but indeed aging. Sorry to hear the source code will not be released but I do understand the effort and time Andy had put into the program. However.... Not sure what the difficulty level will be having to start from scratch. The program is quite well done and hope an upgrade of sorts can be accomplished. Think you might just as well begin something "similar but a new generation thereof". Sincerely hope you can inlist the personnel to get the task going. Might advertise this on the c.s.a.programmer and c.s.a.graphic news groups. Keep us updated if you will. Very interested. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From newky@ukonline.co.uk Sun May 23 23:37:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30122 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:37:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 15890 invoked by alias); 23 May 1999 22:38:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 15875 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 22:38:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 May 1999 22:38:01 -0000 Received: from ukonline.co.uk (tnt-5-218.easynet.co.uk [195.40.200.218]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C2607B0E1 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 23:38:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Humphreys To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:37:59 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 9289eaaf35cb88a7f519074bfc015ac7 From: Dave Humphreys Hello, We all know that Imagestudio has been out of developement for the last couple of years. However it is still one of the easiest and fastest programs for converting between filetypes, cropping, scalling and various other image processing effects. But, it is begining to show it's age. For example there is no sliding gauge for jpeg quality, you can't open it on a workbench screen, no powerpc support. The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement of this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) i've found that the source code will not be released. This means that any developement would need to be started from scratch. What i'm looking for is programmers to make this project become reality. The aim is to bring Imagestudio up-to-date and add some of the following features to it. PowerPC Support Better CyberGraphics Support Updated GUI More optimized versions of loaders for 040 and 060 Scanner Support Workbench Screen support Better compatibility with visualprefs. Extended arexx interface. Progressive JPEG support. If you are interested in helping with this project and are fluent in C++ than please let me know. This is going to be a totally freeware project. I would like a project manager to co-ordinate the programming of the program. Thanks for your time BYe -- Dave 'Newky' Humphreys E-Mail: newky@ukonline.co.uk or dave@anewky.freeserve.co.uk ICQ: 26979212 Web Site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/newky/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From dlbenson@psnw.com Mon May 24 01:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30609 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:34:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 6225 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 15:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6203 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 15:34:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 15:34:58 -0000 Received: from psnw.com (root@vct1-12.psnw.com [206.43.240.35]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA12121 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Don and Lynn Benson To: Mail List Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:30:03 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Memory Board X-UIDL: 448ca387a543da5332ff542584b9e5e6 From: Don and Lynn Benson Anyone know of a memory board compatable with an A-4000 for sale? I'd be interested, if the price isn't too steep. Fixed, low income, you know! ----- Don Benson ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! http://www.onelist.com Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Mon May 24 06:35:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17825 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:02:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 29967 invoked by alias); 23 May 1999 18:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29953 invoked from network); 23 May 1999 18:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 May 1999 18:03:14 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p049.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.113]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.13) with SMTP id GAA00461; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:02:46 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:35:31 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Lha Busted X-UIDL: 134454dab8332b37e66f4b77d1f35b42 From: Rick Giles What are the possibilities for repairing a damaged lha file? It's a small text file which has been encoded in lha and died. Can I get any of it back? Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler. - Get Smart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alden1@airmail.net Mon May 24 13:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05861 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:14:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 19661 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 13:16:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19597 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 13:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 13:16:01 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.16.72] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.402) with smtp for sender: id ; Mon, 24 May 99 08:15:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 4a82029f28ae34bea444ee9880e3ac6c From: Jon Peterson Hello Tim On 24-May-99, you wrote: > From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) > Hi Dave >> The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement of >> this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) i've >> found that the source code will not be released. This means that any >> developement would need to be started from scratch. >> > What's the reason the source won't be released? Am I the only one getting duplicate messages on this mailing list? Each message is repeated. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Mon May 24 13:47:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.237]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA01898 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 21231 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 12:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 21225 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 12:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 12:47:40 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com ([194.119.178.106]) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10lv4M-0006nS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:47:06 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Mon, 24 May 99 13:47:38 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Sun, 23 May 99 23:37:59) Lines: 16 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 9d3b20fc083a0a41ff2d3f440f2232da From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi Dave > The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement of > this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) i've > found that the source code will not be released. This means that any > developement would need to be started from scratch. > What's the reason the source won't be released? Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From ck@mystcorp.com Mon May 24 13:55:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27882 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:41:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 9307 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 18:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 9286 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 18:41:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1c.u-net.net) (195.102.240.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 18:41:43 -0000 Received: from p33.nas2.is4.u-net.net ([195.102.198.161] helo=mystcorp.u-net.com) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 10m0bK-0004Ih-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:41:31 +0000 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:55:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Ltd. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: ad1d32c43485feca95c77273795adfe0 From: Conor Kerr Hi Dave, You might want to consider contacting Andreas Kleinart about this - he's the author of all of the ak datatypes (the Amiga's best : ) ) and of superview. Superview is being developed into superviewNG AFAIK, but Andreas isn't the best at interfaces which is the area superview always falls down on, maybe the two of you could collaborate in some way? Seems a shame to reinvent the wheel... All the best... *Conor Kerr* MD, Mystique Corporation International Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From jmackoy@tranquility.net Mon May 24 17:00:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10391 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:59:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 4017 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 17:00:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 3958 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tranq1.tranquility.net) (206.156.230.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:59:59 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (usr2-ppp47.tranquility.net [206.156.230.202]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA02176 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37498590.D44B0E16@tranquility.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:00 -0500 From: Jim Mackoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 7558a1cee6204f1d2e402c92d6f36a0a From: Jim Mackoy I occasionally get duplicates, but it's not consistent. Jim Jon Peterson wrote > > Am I the only one getting duplicate messages on this mailing list? Each message > is repeated. > > Regards > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? > http://www.onelist.com > At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From newky@ukonline.co.uk Mon May 24 17:45:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.225]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07996 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:44:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 21485 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 16:46:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21479 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:46:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:46:00 -0000 Received: from ukonline.co.uk (tnt-5-247.easynet.co.uk [195.40.200.247]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E937B7B047 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:45:24 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Humphreys To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: fe8b289c0531ab57d6364600ef85c4cf From: Dave Humphreys Hello Jon where are the c.s.a newsgroups located? Do they have a web site? Thanks On 23-May-99, Jon Peterson wrote: > From: Jon Peterson > > Hello Dave > > On 23-May-99, you wrote: > >> From: Dave Humphreys > >> We all know that Imagestudio has been out of developement for the last >> couple of years. >> The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement >> of this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) >> i've found that the source code will not be released. This means that any >> developement would need to be started from scratch. > > Wish I had some idea of what programming was about. Although I registered > the program waaayyy back and have used it on occasion, it is still quite > capable but indeed aging. Sorry to hear the source code will not be > released but I do understand the effort and time Andy had put into the > program. However.... Not sure what the difficulty level will be having to > start from scratch. The program is quite well done and hope an upgrade of > sorts can be accomplished. Think you might just as well begin something > "similar but a new generation thereof". Sincerely hope you can inlist the > personnel to get the task going. Might advertise this on the > c.s.a.programmer and c.s.a.graphic news groups. Keep us updated if you > will. Very interested. > > Regards > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking to expand your world? > http://www.onelist.com > ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* > Regards -- Dave 'Newky' Humphreys E-Mail: newky@ukonline.co.uk or dave@anewky.freeserve.co.uk ICQ: 26979212 Web Site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/newky/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From newky@ukonline.co.uk Mon May 24 17:49:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10296 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:50:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 28726 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 16:51:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28663 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 16:51:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:51:42 -0000 Received: from ukonline.co.uk (tnt-5-247.easynet.co.uk [195.40.200.247]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A14117B13F for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:49:18 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Humphreys To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:49:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 4a9d8e51b5e0fbcc3a0286d5e2fb9651 From: Dave Humphreys Hello Tim The reason they won't release the source code is becuase theey've used a lot of the loading and saving code in their drawstudio program and they don't want to let the code out because of it. Thanks Bye On 24-May-99, Tim Corringham wrote: > From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) > > Hi Dave > >> The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start developement >> of this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of Imagestudio) >> i've found that the source code will not be released. This means that any >> developement would need to be started from scratch. >> > What's the reason the source won't be released? > > Tim > > -- > ====================================================================== > Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com > Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 > Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking to expand your world? > http://www.onelist.com > ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* > Regards -- Dave 'Newky' Humphreys E-Mail: newky@ukonline.co.uk or dave@anewky.freeserve.co.uk ICQ: 26979212 Web Site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/newky/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Mon May 24 20:58:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17850 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:59:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 17020 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 20:59:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 16995 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 20:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 20:59:57 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.80] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10m1kn-0002r8-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:55:21 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:58:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Charizard X-Zero-Hour: in 587 days, 2 hours, 1 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: f46a220eeb9b355ef10461cabc92f456 From: Stephen Williams Dave Humphreys wrote: > This is going to be a totally freeware project. Why not consider making it "open source", i.e. make the new source available to anyone who wants it. If you ever decide to give up the project, the new maintainer won't have the same problems which you did. If I didn't code for a living, I'd offer to help with the program; as it is, I get home every night from work not wanting to see any more code. You might want to join the Amiga C coding list though, it's at onelist.com (search for "amiga-c", you'll find it). Olaf Barthel is one notable Amiga coder who reads the list. -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Mon May 24 23:56:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA04850 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:54:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 19405 invoked by alias); 24 May 1999 22:56:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 19396 invoked from network); 24 May 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:56:14 -0000 Received: from icon-39.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-39.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.39]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA12345 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:55:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: 24 May 99 17:56:06 -0600 From: "William F. Maddock" To: "Dave Humphreys" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2870.813T329T10762166wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: ba20f92a71b71647bd6e78c18a1f12c9 From: "William F. Maddock" On 23-May-99 17:37:59 newky@ukonline.co.uk Dave Humphreys wrote: >From: Dave Humphreys >Hello, >We all know that Imagestudio has been out of developement for the last >couple of years. However it is still one of the easiest and fastest >programs for converting between filetypes, cropping, scalling and >various other image processing effects. But, it is begining to show >it's age. For example there is no sliding gauge for jpeg quality, you >can't open it on a workbench screen, no powerpc support. >The reason i am saying this is that i would like to re-start >developement of this package. Having spoken to Andy Dean(co-creator of >Imagestudio) i've found that the source code will not be released. >This means that any developement would need to be started from scratch. >What i'm looking for is programmers to make this project become >reality. The aim is to bring Imagestudio up-to-date and add some of >the following features to it. >PowerPC Support >Better CyberGraphics Support >Updated GUI >More optimized versions of loaders for 040 and 060 >Scanner Support >Workbench Screen support >Better compatibility with visualprefs. >Extended arexx interface. >Progressive JPEG support. >If you are interested in helping with this project and are fluent in >C++ than please let me know. >This is going to be a totally freeware project. >I would like a project manager to co-ordinate the programming of the >program. >Thanks for your time Before you get all enthusiastic and everything, perhaps you should look into Image Engineer. Which uses SuperView's #?.library files and therefore every loader/saver at the disposal of those libraries, including scanner support and progressive JPEG support. It will even load those EXIF JPEGs you get from digital cameras. Because of this it also has PPC support (optional PPC-based loader/savers are available at a small fee from Andreas Kleinert, author of SuperView). The GUI is better than Image Studio. I'm not certain whether or not it can open on Workbench, but this is not a great concern for me. It is also actively supported by a European programmer who has been releasing new effects for it like there was no tomorrow. These are part of the Visual Engineering collection. Look for them on AmiNET under gfx/edit/VE#?.lha. I can't recall the Visual Engineering programmer's name right now, but perhaps you could speak to Andreas and him about the status of Image Engineer, which, although shareware, has not been upgraded in quite some time either. Image Engineer is on AmiNET as well. -- William F. 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See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From alden1@airmail.net Tue May 25 00:27:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19243 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:26:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 28628 invoked by alias); 25 May 1999 00:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28613 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 00:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.airmail.net) (206.66.12.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 00:28:32 -0000 Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.16.60] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.402) with smtp for sender: id ; Mon, 24 May 99 19:27:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Peterson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2870.813T329T10762166wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: c45b80a11b4ece52a24b26e76e084ec3 From: Jon Peterson Hello William On 24-May-99, you wrote: > Before you get all enthusiastic and everything, perhaps you should look > into Image Engineer. Which uses SuperView's #?.library files and > therefore every loader/saver at the disposal of those libraries, > including scanner support and progressive JPEG support. It will even > load those EXIF JPEGs you get from digital cameras. Because of this it > also has PPC support (optional PPC-based loader/savers are available at > a small fee from Andreas Kleinert, author of SuperView). The GUI is > better than Image Studio. I'm not certain whether or not it can open on > Workbench, but this is not a great concern for me. It is also actively > supported by a European programmer who has been releasing new effects > for it like there was no tomorrow. These are part of the Visual > Engineering collection. Look for them on AmiNET under gfx/edit/VE#?.lha. > I can't recall the Visual Engineering programmer's name right now, but > perhaps you could speak to Andreas and him about the status of Image > Engineer, which, although shareware, has not been upgraded in quite some > time either. Image Engineer is on AmiNET as well. Noyt a bad idea at all. The programmer you are referring to is Marko Seppanen and he has done and is doing some really nice work with add-ons for ImageEngineer. His web site is: #HTTP://wwnet.fi/users/smarko/visual/# He updates the scripts, etc. just about weekly. Check it out, it could be an interesting partnership. 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------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BEA685.36DBFAC0-- From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Tue May 25 21:09:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.207]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA30017 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:20:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 2944 invoked by alias); 25 May 1999 20:33:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 2818 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 20:32:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:32:59 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk (ppp-1-38.cvx2.telinco.net [212.1.144.38]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA11295 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:55:53 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:09:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006901bea69e$5c2932c0$798629c8@gavilanpollero> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HELLO X-UIDL: d3b919ac5b71f0286568f69419cda845 From: Nik Williams Hello GavilanPollero On 25-May-99, you wrote: > Hello fellow amigans!!! i have just subscribed here and i would like to tell > everybody that im here, and hoping to stay for a loong time :-o) My name is > Sebastian, im from Argentina, 23 years old, journalist and 100% amigan Hi ya dood! 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If not, see our homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From newky@ukonline.co.uk Tue May 25 23:31:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.213]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09705 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:37:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 8206 invoked by alias); 25 May 1999 22:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32247 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kiwi.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from ukonline.co.uk (tnt-5-109.easynet.co.uk [195.40.200.109]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B2EED928 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:31:40 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Humphreys To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:31:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2870.813T329T10762166wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 87e0cda273b41b3d56491ad6c9984e27 From: Dave Humphreys Hello William I know that ImageEngineer is a good package, but i find the menus aren't particularly useful. I also don't like using superview as it slows the whole process dwon. The main reason that i use imagestudio is becuase it is quick to load, the datatypes are all handled extremely fast and the program is simply laid out and easy to understand. The reason that i want to write a new version is to add support for new hardware like the ppc, no to make it work differently. Thanks BYe On 24-May-99, William F. Maddock wrote: > > Before you get all enthusiastic and everything, perhaps you should look > into Image Engineer. Which uses SuperView's #?.library files and > therefore every loader/saver at the disposal of those libraries, > including scanner support and progressive JPEG support. It will even > load those EXIF JPEGs you get from digital cameras. Because of this it > also has PPC support (optional PPC-based loader/savers are available at > a small fee from Andreas Kleinert, author of SuperView). The GUI is > better than Image Studio. I'm not certain whether or not it can open on > Workbench, but this is not a great concern for me. It is also actively > supported by a European programmer who has been releasing new effects > for it like there was no tomorrow. These are part of the Visual > Engineering collection. Look for them on AmiNET under gfx/edit/VE#?.lha. > I can't recall the Visual Engineering programmer's name right now, but > perhaps you could speak to Andreas and him about the status of Image > Engineer, which, although shareware, has not been upgraded in quite some > time either. Image Engineer is on AmiNET as well. > > -- > William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock > Time: 24-May-99 17:46:19 CDT Wrfhf Yvirf mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net > St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock > Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6 Registered User Number 1621 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Campaign 2000 is here! > http://www.onelist.com > Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* > Regards -- Dave 'Newky' Humphreys E-Mail: newky@ukonline.co.uk or dave@anewky.freeserve.co.uk ICQ: 26979212 Web Site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/newky/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From colstv@hotkey.net.au Wed May 26 01:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02086 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:16:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 8175 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 01:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8164 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:18:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.58.52.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:18:21 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-4.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.7]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17311 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:17:28 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Wayne Pyrah Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:17:27 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Problems with Epson Stylus 300 Colour X-UIDL: 60b33e5c58e98adf974486e5854fa8d9 From: Colin Wenzel On 24-May-99, Wayne Pyrah wrote: >From: Wayne Pyrah >Hi all >I don't know whether anyone can help me with my printer problems. >I have just purchased a used printer (Epson Stylus 300) and am having >trouble getting anything out of it at all, even text ! Oops !!! Epsom Stylus is a GRAPHICS ONLY printer, you want a 400 or later to use with your Amiga. Otherwise, you need to get a driver for it from: http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/index.html Plus, You will have to use it with Turboprint..... -------------------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ 'AMIGA' 4000T With CS-III 68060/50 150Mb RAM. -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From bunton@acay.com.au Wed May 26 01:24:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA03432 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:25:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 21583 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 01:24:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 21393 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hamtic.acay.com.au) (203.7.132.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:24:27 -0000 Received: from acay.com.au (acay01912467.acay.com.au [203.19.124.67]) by acay.com.au (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08263 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:24:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bunton@acay.com.au) Message-ID: <374B4D68.B87F9351@acay.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:24:56 +1000 From: Frank Bunton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US To: just-amiga@onelist.com References: <006901bea69e$5c2932c0$798629c8@gavilanpollero> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] HELLO X-UIDL: bd7f350e807604b46f3a602803236430 From: Frank Bunton > GavilanPollero wrote: > > Hello fellow amigans!!! i have just subscribed here and i would like G'Day Sebastian Welcome and greetings from Australia -- -------------------------------------------------- AMIGA - What Windows wants to be when it grows up! -------------------------------------------------- From:- Frank Bunton E-mail:- bunton@acay.com.au Web:- http://www.acay.com.au/~bunton HOME OF: AmigaDOS For Beginners ARexx For Beginners How To Write AmigaGuide Docs Phone in Australia:- (02) 43 331 224 Phone ex overseas +61 2 43 331 224 Member of Team *Amiga* Worldwide http://www.wans.net/~gpeake/teamamiga.html ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What was YOUR favorite part?! http://www.onelist.com Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Wed May 26 01:43:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA01089 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:14:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 19773 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 00:42:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 19738 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 00:42:13 -0000 Received: from icon-35.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@icon-35.icon-stl.net [199.217.231.35]) by icon-stl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24820 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:41:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: 25 May 99 19:43:24 -0600 From: "William F. Maddock" To: "Dave Humphreys" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3338.814T1232T11832893wmaddock@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] ImageStudioNG X-UIDL: 2dd66c83060b11fd0fc0f7439062fc7f From: "William F. Maddock" On 25-May-99 17:31:37 newky@ukonline.co.uk Dave Humphreys wrote: >From: Dave Humphreys >Hello William >I know that ImageEngineer is a good package, but i find the menus >aren't particularly useful. I also don't like using superview as it >slows the whole process dwon. The main reason that i use imagestudio >is becuase it is quick to load, the datatypes are all handled >extremely fast and the program is simply laid out and easy to >understand. The reason that i want to write a new version is to add >support for new hardware like the ppc, no to make it work differently. >Thanks >BYe >On 24-May-99, William F. Maddock wrote: >> Before you get all enthusiastic and everything, perhaps you should >> look into Image Engineer. Which uses SuperView's #?.library files and >> therefore every loader/saver at the disposal of those libraries, >> including scanner support and progressive JPEG support. It will even >> load those EXIF JPEGs you get from digital cameras. Because of this >> it also has PPC support (optional PPC-based loader/savers are >> available at a small fee from Andreas Kleinert, author of SuperView). >> The GUI is better than Image Studio. I'm not certain whether or not >> it can open on Workbench, but this is not a great concern for me. It >> is also actively supported by a European programmer who has been >> releasing new effects for it like there was no tomorrow. These are >> part of the Visual Engineering collection. Look for them on AmiNET >> under gfx/edit/VE#?.lha. I can't recall the Visual Engineering >> programmer's name right now, but perhaps you could speak to Andreas >> and him about the status of Image Engineer, which, although >> shareware, has not been upgraded in quite some time either. Image >> Engineer is on AmiNET as well. Looks like you might just be wanting a *new* gfx package, then. Might I recommend that you look up the author of the viewer "V", as he uses a loader/saver approach for the viewer, and might find your idea interesting enough to contribute loader/savers. That would leave you with the GUI and effects. Keep in mind that Image Engineer has a few features that Image Studio lacks. You might want to put these into your new package: *(1)* Respect for the image's aspect ratio on screen. *(2)* The ability to open more than one image at a time. *(3)* Very easy to use compositing. Also, keep the following features from Image Studio: *(1)* Its own Virtual Memory system. *(2)* Image Studio's unique way of handling convolution math. If you can get this to work *exactly* as it does in Image Studio, I will be a fan. I have a custom convolution filter that I use in Image Studio. It doesn't work the same way in *any* other package I've tried. Once you've gotten to the appropriate point in the development of your package, let me know, and assuming NDA-type secrecy, I'll send that filter on to you for testing. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 25-May-99 19:30:36 CDT Wrfhf Yvirf mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.6 Registered User Number 1621 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Wed May 26 09:28:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA04355 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:28:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 25808 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 08:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25797 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 08:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anduril.Austria.EU.net) (193.154.160.104) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 08:29:10 -0000 Received: from kbn2.kb-endlos.com (tiger.kb-endlos.com [193.228.86.5]) by anduril.Austria.EU.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06173 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Received: by kbn2.kb-endlos.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4125677D.00342889 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:42 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KBE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: <4125677D.00338F6B.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:28:08 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] HELLO X-UIDL: b0a6647f9dfcc078ff1d7341da25839f From: rudi.rager@kb-endlos.com Hi Sebastian! Hello from Austria! How´s the Amiga-situation in Argentina? Are there any local Software/Hardware dealers? rEgArDs Rudolf Rager ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's finally here! What's your opinion? http://www.onelist.com Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From zoomix@cyberdude.com Wed May 26 17:43:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA32511 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:43:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 26266 invoked by alias); 26 May 1999 17:43:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26251 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 17:43:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb04.swip.net) (193.12.122.208) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:43:28 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup199-3-50.swipnet.se [130.244.199.178]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA06141 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:43:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:43:52 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Lha Busted X-UIDL: 64e78a22487a3c50d34a954cea81b716 From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Rick On 24-Maj-99, you wrote: > From: Rick Giles > What are the possibilities for repairing a damaged lha file? It's a small > text file which has been encoded in lha and died. Can I get any of it > back? Use the "-k" as in *k*eep partial files. I.e.: lha x -k file.lha ram: This might give you back some of the text. Good luck! -- /ZoomiX < mailto:zoomix@aio.co.uk > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss I'm not as think as you drunk I am! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Wed May 26 20:42:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29961 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:32:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 2093 invoked by alias); 27 May 1999 17:33:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 2084 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 17:33:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 May 1999 17:33:53 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p034.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.98]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.13) with SMTP id FAA14067; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:33:26 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Srdan Kvrgic Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:42:37 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Lha Busted X-UIDL: 298edf9b8d2716d4593224dfbe0e2bae Status: U From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Srdan Kvrgic wrote on 27-May-99: |>Use the "-k" as in *k*eep partial files. I.e.: |>lha x -k file.lha ram: |>This might give you back some of the text. Good luck! Great suggestion, didn't work. I don't suppose you could open the archive with a text ed and transpose some of the code to an archive that works? Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Is a mirage real? Well, it's a real mirage. -- Edward Abbey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Armin.Huebner@t-online.de Thu May 27 14:58:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.159]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA03282 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:00:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 5475 invoked by alias); 27 May 1999 15:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 5440 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 15:01:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout08.btx.dtag.de) (194.25.2.156) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:01:06 -0000 Received: from fwd06.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.166]) by mailout08.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 10n1eq-0002Cu-00; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:01:20 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (0521450739-0001(btxid)@[193.159.144.135]) by fwd06.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:01:17 +0200 To: Just-Amiga-Liste , Open-Daug-Liste Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:58:10 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: HueBiSoft X-Sender: 0521450739-0001@t-online.de From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] PC-Monitor X-UIDL: 6e62a7090d19643ad2018e47265bded5 Status: U From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Hi, I`m living in Germany and just bought a scandoubler/flickerfixer for my amiga 1200 AGA. Is there anyone who can give me a hint which PC Monitor allows to perform all amiga screen modes (even dblpal e.g.) ? Regards -Armin- -- ____________________________________________________________________________ H //armin.huebner@t-online.de \S// \X/ Long live AMIGA! ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From D.Mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk Thu May 27 15:26:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.227]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07903 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:27:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 14358 invoked by alias); 27 May 1999 15:28:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14350 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk) (193.62.34.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 May 1999 15:28:30 -0000 Received: from eee.rgu.ac.uk (ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk [193.62.34.252]) by glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12649 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:28:02 GMT Message-Id: <199905271628.QAA12649@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> Received: from NS-EEE-1/SpoolDir by eee.rgu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 27 May 99 16:26:47 0 Received: from SpoolDir by NS-EEE-1 (Mercury 1.44); 27 May 99 16:26:38 0 From: "David McMinn" Organization: The Robert Gordon University, E&EE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:26:36 +0100 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [just-amiga] PC-Monitor X-UIDL: 6291531b70f6140e0713648e9d264e7e Status: U From: "David McMinn" Hi Armin, > I`m living in Germany and just bought a scandoubler/flickerfixer for my > amiga 1200 AGA. Is there anyone who can give me a hint which PC Monitor > allows to perform all amiga screen modes (even dblpal e.g.) ? The whole purpose of a scandoubler/flickerfixer is so you can use standard PC monitors with all Amiga display modes. You just need to make sure that they can sync as low as 30kHz horizontally and 50Hz/60Hz for PAL/NTSC respectively. You wouldn't want to use any of the DBL screenmodes when you have a scandoubler/flickerfixer as they are slower and use more memory than the PAL or NTSC screenmodes, which you should be able to see on you monitor through the sd/ff. -- David McMinn Research Student d.mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From zoomix@cyberdude.com Thu May 27 19:47:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.211]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15646 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:27:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 13751 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 15:28:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 15:27:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb04.swip.net) (193.12.122.208) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 15:27:59 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup160-2-42.swipnet.se [130.244.160.106]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12082 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:27:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Lha Busted X-UIDL: 4c1b90c9256b7f5ce6aa954dbe1ecd58 From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Rick On 26-Maj-99, you wrote: > From: Rick Giles > It's simply incredible what Srdan Kvrgic wrote on 27-May-99: > |>Use the "-k" as in *k*eep partial files. I.e.: > |>lha x -k file.lha ram: > |>This might give you back some of the text. Good luck! > Great suggestion, didn't work. > I don't suppose you could open the archive with a text ed and > transpose some of the code to an archive that works? I dunno for sure, but I have done similar actions with attatchments in e-mails. Though the whole file was actually intact, just the header was wrong. BTW, what happens anyway? Does LHA even start unpacking the archive? -- /ZoomiX < mailto:zoomix@aio.co.uk > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss The average pencil is seven inches long, with just a half inch eraser - in case you thought optimism was dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri May 28 14:13:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01460 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 10:31:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 9156 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 10:32:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9150 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 10:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 10:32:16 -0000 Received: from modem-235.name63.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.191.235] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ngPV-0000m2-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:32:15 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:13:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] help! X-UIDL: b5d735a4d6ad7d41ac958183e3991271 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Paul On 20-May-99, you wrote: >>> I use Miami (demo) with Free4all if that helps ? >> >> not really, I don't wanna use a 30 minute demo :/ > I have my 1200 up and running with free4all, BUT I use Netconnect 2 > Whats the problem ? > Paul At the moment free4all isn't compatible with amitcp (NC 1 version) because of something to do with the DNS servers. They are getting new servers in a week or 2 though so don't worry :) Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan ____________/oo\___________ What, No Taglines!?!?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk Fri May 28 14:15:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01485 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 10:31:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 30948 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 10:32:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 30939 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 10:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail9.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.22) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 10:32:05 -0000 Received: from modem-235.name63.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.191.235] helo=myamiga.freeserve.co.uk ident=Mash) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ngPY-0000m2-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:32:16 +0100 From: "Matthew O'Neill" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:15:34 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Things Inc. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] PC-Monitor X-UIDL: eab1ab46a524116358373573455970e3 From: Matthew O'Neill Hi Armin On 27-May-99, you wrote: > I`m living in Germany and just bought a scandoubler/flickerfixer for my > amiga 1200 AGA. Is there anyone who can give me a hint which PC Monitor > allows to perform all amiga screen modes (even dblpal e.g.) ? it depends if it has a pass through, if not you can't use them. Anyway, why would you want to? dblpal has the worst refresh rate ever!, you will most likely use PAL at full over scan which is something like 720x550. All monitors will show these Regards -- HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/ Matthew O'Neill - MashMan "Here I am, brain the size of a planet..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "M-K-ROSES," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From Armin.Huebner@t-online.de Fri May 28 16:31:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25709 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:32:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 973 invoked by alias); 28 May 1999 16:32:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 968 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 16:32:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout00.btx.dtag.de) (194.25.2.148) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 16:32:37 -0000 Received: from fwd13.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.173]) by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 10nPZ4-0004Td-00; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:32:58 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (0521450739-0001(btxid)@[193.159.65.1]) by fwd13.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:32:43 +0200 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: HueBiSoft X-Sender: 0521450739-0001@t-online.de From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] dev/dos-drivers X-UIDL: b0d7d5ae340be423309f65fe9e3f6662 Status: U From: Armin.Huebner@t-online.de (Armin =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCbner?=) Hello Ken, you wrote at 12-Mai-99: > How do I get the icon to stay in place (without any fancy cd filesystem) > What is this out and back in that keeps the icon in place ? Is there a > tooltype command I add to CD0 to make it stay in place ? Try ForceIcon by Kai Iske (Freeware). It's a MUI-program. But I don't remember where I got it from. Regards -Armin - -- ____________________________________________________________________________ H //armin.huebner@t-online.de \S// \X/ Long live AMIGA! ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Fri May 28 22:18:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA14009 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 01:22:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 20435 invoked by alias); 28 May 1999 21:35:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12794 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 21:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:17:31 -0000 Received: from ppp-1-46.cvx2.telinco.net ([212.1.144.46] helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10nTy6-0004uu-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:15:06 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:18:21 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] off-topic: PSX Cheats X-UIDL: 96edd58daa387b654385e5e9b29fbaf5 From: Nik Williams Hi ya, Sorry to go off-topic, but I know there are quite a few of us Amiga owners that also own a Playstation too. Anyway, I was wondering if any of you know of a site that has cheats for playstation games. Cheers, Nik... -- For good quality MIDI files check out my website http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 29 00:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA29705 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:33:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 2221 invoked by alias); 28 May 1999 23:38:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20029 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:21:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:21:47 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.111] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A61B714B02A6; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:18:03 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:14:20 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga webwise X-UIDL: 9e76452667282cb002dd4009362d30fd Status: U From: Chris Seward List, For those of you in the UK you might have seen a program called Webwise which is dedicated to teaching newbies about the internet. Well as I said in an earlier email my mum is doing a course and needed to know how to type so she also watched this program and suprise suprise on Sunday nights program they showed an Amiga :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) On Monday nights program they scrolled past some Amiga newsgroups, rec.amiga.demos or something, wow more mention of Amiga :) on in the Webwise article in RadioTimes magazine they mentioned when you join an ISP you need to ask if they support your computer, PC, Mac, Amiga, another mention of Amiga, this is great!!!!! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 29 00:14:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA32289 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:55:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 29381 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 00:01:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20113 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:21:49 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.111] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A61D714B02A6; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:18:05 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:14:24 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AmigaNG under threat of being too easy? X-UIDL: f48217a69b86dc734ab836eceb6c7527 From: Chris Seward Lets face it most of us are long time users with the odd exception, alot of us have probably been using the Amiga way longer than 5 years at least and probably more are around say the 9-11 years mark like myself, so we have become experts basically or experts compares to the rest of the computing world. The PC has probably the biggest amount of new users, no experience and no knowledge so of course because this market is captured by the PC they produce stuff for the masses and lets be honest there are probably more novice PC users than there are experts. This makes software on the PC that is used every day pretty easily layed out and simple to use. When the new Amiga comes out does this now mean that we are going to see big font and easily spelt out programs. Click here to exit the program etc. The amount of novice users about it is a big market and will Amiga intend to capture that market? new users which are mainly PC users will change from any computer to any computer and no matter how good the new Amiga is die hard PC fans just will not change just like us Amiga ONLY owning people, but the beginners are likely to change to keep up with the Joneses (?!) We have come to like how the Amiga runs and works and most of us no matter how complicated the software or hardware is we can alot of the time use it easily and because we have become more experts than anything even the most complicated tasks seem just 'normal' My point is that which was does Amiga go? they will obviously want to attract the mass novice market which will goto any new computer so they will make it easy and colourful and almost child like so its 'fun' and people who don't know about computers will like them, but where does this leave us hard-core Amiga users? i really hate the PC they way that everything is sort of locked away, i'm more of your Dos man on a PC because you have 'some' freedom, but mainly in PCs it is all done for you, you can't be the hacker in the original sence. I like to play about with things (no smutty comments ) and change to suit me, the Amiga gives you this power but the PC in alot of ways does not. I don't want to see little documents flapping into a folder when downloading because I can tell it is downloading by just a progress bar or the receive light on the modem flashing or even just the noise of the HD frantically accessing. I don't want buttons in email programs that say 'Send to more than one user' and headings like 'This will send to other users :' when we all know its talking about CC: or BCC: the PC on the outsides is just to basic and the Amiga is in danger of capturing that market. Will Amiga grab the beginners and leave us out or will they make it hard like it should be and please us who know how things work and like a challenge now and again. Does it have room to take in both markets? Just gives you something to think about.... Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Congratulations to "M-K-ROSES," our latest ONElist of the Week. http://www.onelist.com Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 29 00:14:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.233]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA29806 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:38:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 9999 invoked by alias); 28 May 1999 23:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 30844 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net) (199.171.54.98) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:25:31 -0000 Received: from fdn.co.uk by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: mail.fdn.co.uk [195.34.192.6]) id QQgrfh22795 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:19:09 GMT Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.111] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A626714B02A6; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:18:14 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:14:39 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Why not try #amos on IRCnet X-UIDL: f1203214fbb1774176869ee4853e491c From: Chris Seward If you've used IRC and use it regularly then why not try, IRCnet's *#amos* We don't just talk about amos but you can always find details of the new amos or other projects and talk about anything from life, computers, internet, amigas etc etc. So if your on irc connect to IRCnet and join #amos IRCnet servers : irc.stealth.net irc.cifnet.com irc.demon.co.uk Best of all you'll get to talk to me :) (?!) look for 'AIOeditor' Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From kwdjc@wf.net Sat May 29 01:44:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA25827 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:35:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 29256 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 01:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29034 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 01:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wf.net) (208.129.168.4) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 01:44:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21640 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 20:44:49 -0500 Received: from mw-pm3-19.wf.net (HELO wf.net) (208.134.151.88) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 28 May 1999 20:44:49 -0500 From: Kenneth Craig To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] off-topic: PSX Cheats X-UIDL: b2ac5f0c402debdbd40a134a39a1693f From: Kenneth Craig Hello Nik, On 28-May-99, Nik Williams wrote: > From: Nik Williams > > Hi ya, > Sorry to go off-topic, but I know there are quite a few of > us Amiga owners that also own a Playstation too. Anyway, I was > wondering if any of you know of a site that has cheats for playstation > games. Try this one: http://allthecheats.com/domaincgi/allthecheats.cgi -- What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." kwdjc@wf.net UIN 12669981 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 29 03:08:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13060 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:03:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 15869 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 15:02:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15860 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 15:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 15:02:52 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.200.92] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A498169F02A2; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:07:20 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 03:08:54 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4125677C.0036E5F1.00@kbn2.kb-endlos.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] duplicate messages X-UIDL: 504e5fd3542174becbfba6f77d222376 From: Chris Seward Rudi, On 25-May-99, you wrote: > I also get those sometimes, too. Not only from OneList-ML´s but also from > the samplitude-ML. Mostly they occur on weekends :-( Hmm. i've only noticed it this week, its happend on the Amos list and i've only just joined that so its obviously onelists fault. They havn't told me anything yet... oh well. Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What do lizards and rock music have in common? http://www.onelist.com They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From peter@amigauniverse.co.uk Sat May 29 10:38:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA30956 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 10:15:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 3151 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 10:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3139 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 10:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 10:15:08 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.215] (helo=amigauni.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10ng5V-00070I-00; Sat, 29 May 1999 10:11:33 +0000 From: Peter Price To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:38:52 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Amiga Universe Organisation Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] off-topic: PSX Cheats X-UIDL: 2fe3242d673ed0ac9a80aaaa13f068e7 From: Peter Price Nik Williams scribbled with a virtual Biro about [just-amiga] off-topic: PSX Cheats : > Sorry to go off-topic, but I know there are quite a few of us > Amiga owners that also own a Playstation too. Anyway, I was wondering if > any of you know of a site that has cheats for playstation games. Try www.cheatplanet.com Best Regards -- Peter Price · IRC Channel @ ARCNet #amigaUni Amiga Universe · Mailing List, Message Board http://www.amigauniverse.co.uk · The news, the views, the site How are lawyers and sperm alike? Only one in a million do anything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat May 29 18:07:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.205]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05463 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:03:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 29859 invoked by alias); 30 May 1999 18:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29819 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 18:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 May 1999 18:04:00 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.13) with SMTP id GAA08119; Mon, 31 May 1999 06:04:13 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 05:07:18 +1100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] harlot.lha X-UIDL: 57978b417441fc0f1fbc77d425a0a031 From: Rick Giles I found the program I wanted which will allow shell to use the wb menus. It's perfect. harlot.lha Cool Enough, TTFN!! -- Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? http://www.onelist.com At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From gavilan@sinectis.com.ar Sat May 29 20:22:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA30149 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:17:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 10828 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 20:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 10774 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 20:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO odin.sinectis.com.ar) (200.16.183.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 20:17:06 -0000 Received: from gavilanpollero (modem100-cisco8.sinectis.com.ar [200.41.200.220]) by odin.sinectis.com.ar (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA13112 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:18:18 -0300 Message-ID: <0f2b01beaa10$eb3d14c0$1b8629c8@gavilanpollero> From: "GavilanPollero" To: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:22:00 -0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Argentinian scene X-UIDL: fc28c5a013d205b8e794d9a78cfa5f65 From: "GavilanPollero" > Hi ya dood! What's the Amiga scene like over there in Argentina? Hello!!! well, actually...Argentinian Amiga scene doesnt exist anymore :-o(( I suppose that in the whole country (36 millions) we have between 100 and 200 active Amiga users...and from that number...i would say that only 30 use their miggys on the net. Some years ago, amigas ruled everywhere. All tv stations, video producers have their Amigas...but...we all now the story, dont we? :-o(( In my example, i came from a small town in the south of Argentina, in Patagonia (any1 heard of it?). My town, Comodoro Rivadavia, had 2 tv stations, both using Amigas 500 to do everything. Of course, I was the ONLY amiga user there, so we used to exchange knowldege and programs with the people working on the tv stations. Right now.im kinda of a Amiga addict: i own 4 Amigas 500 with loooooot of disks, mags, joysticks,books,disk drives, etc and my beloved and trusty Amiga1200Towered in one of those famous Power Towers. At this moment, there are only 3 "official" places where you could get Amiga stuff: all of them appear on the official amiga dealer list in the amiga web page. All of them are good friend of mine., but everything is SO expensive here: you have to be a rich man to be able to buy some amiga stuff: Here some examples: G-LOCK: U$ 700 Amiga 500: between U$250 and U$300 Amiga 1200: between U$800 and U$1000 You get the idea?? :-o// Pretty sad, but thats the actual situation here. I have friends in Brazil too, where the situation is a little better, and in Uruguay, where there are some Amiga owners spreaded over there well, i hope this illustrates you the South American Amiga situation!!!1 Kind Regards!!!! -------------------------------------G4vil4n P0ll3r0-------------------------------------------- Amiga 1200T - 48 megas - HD Seagate 4,3 - Modem Motorola 56 k Blizzard 1230 050 - Blizzard SCSI kit - Monitor Commodore 1942 CD-R Pioneer 16x - CD-W Teac 55RS - MIDI - DSS8+ - Zip Plus - -------------------------------------Gavilan Pollero--------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! >http://www.onelist.com >Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where the world talks! http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Sat May 29 20:26:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.253]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA20964 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:25:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 16818 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 19:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16811 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 19:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 19:24:32 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.135.152]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA20802 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:48:40 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:26:06 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AmigaActive Online X-UIDL: 119e2f660efdf060bc2097d9b107e0eb From: Nik Williams Hi ya, Just a short note to let people know that AmigaActive's website is now online at http://www.amigaactive.com See ya -- For good quality MIDI files check out my website http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From amiga@thefree.net Sat May 29 20:29:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA20994 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:28:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 10110 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 19:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10078 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 19:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 19:28:04 -0000 Received: from thefree.net [195.34.195.235] by fdn.co.uk (SMTPD32-4.07) id A2C7824F029A; Sat, 29 May 1999 19:32:39 +0000 From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmigaActive Online X-UIDL: 0a5488273a1794617cdc45205cc5743a From: Chris Seward Nik, On 29-May-99, you wrote: > Just a short note to let people know that AmigaActive's website is > now online at Are Amiga Active paying you :)? your the only one who keeps going on about it? :/ Regards -- Chris Seward Email : chris@aio.co.uk *http://www.aio.co.uk* Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 Editor of Amiga Information Online Aminet: Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's finally here! What's your opinion? http://www.onelist.com Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Sat May 29 20:54:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05483 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:04:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 2921 invoked by alias); 30 May 1999 18:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2830 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 18:04:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep1-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 May 1999 18:04:33 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m006-p056.wgtn.clear.net.nz [203.167.241.120]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.13) with SMTP id GAA08208; Mon, 31 May 1999 06:04:51 +1200 (NZST) From: Rick Giles To: Srdan Kvrgic Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 07:54:27 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Lha Busted X-UIDL: 86b1ab9d2f5b4d583a22eb129452f4f3 From: Rick Giles It's simply incredible what Srdan Kvrgic wrote on 28-May-99: |>BTW, what happens anyway? Does LHA even start unpacking the archive? Ricks:Junkdraw/Delete_me> lha x studdy.lha LhA Evaluation V1.38 - Copyright (c) 1991,92 Stefan Boberg. All rights reserved. Not for commercial use. Extracting from archive 'Studdy.lha': No files extracted. Operation successful. 11.Ricks:Junkdraw/Delete_me> Or... Listing of archive 'Studdy.lha': Original Packed Ratio Date Time Name -------- ------- ----- --------- -------- ------------- -------- ------- ----- --------- -------- 0 0 0.0% 22-May-99 20:20:06 0 files I hope there's something I can do. Cool Enough, TTFN! -- Nature's Great Book is written in mathematical symbols. - Galileo Galilei ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Sat May 29 21:17:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29165 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:17:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 20232 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 20:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20219 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 20:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (212.1.130.33) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 20:16:14 -0000 Received: from [212.1.149.78] (helo=connectfree.co.uk) by smtp with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10npV1-0004rU-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 29 May 1999 21:14:32 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:17:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmigaActive Online X-UIDL: 5ef295adb5b3d667b26185ab8d5585ae From: Nik Williams Hello Chris On 29-May-99, you wrote: > Are Amiga Active paying you :)? your the only one who keeps going on > about it? :/ I'm just giving them my support, and to do that I just thought I'd let people know what's going on. Surely having a new Amiga mag can only be good news, and news that must be spread amongst the Amiga community eh? -- For good quality MIDI files check out my website http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Campaign 2000 is here! http://www.onelist.com Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From axis@distrinet.com.uy Sat May 29 21:27:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.209]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07176 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 21:29:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 12315 invoked by alias); 29 May 1999 21:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12300 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 21:29:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zofanor.distrinet.com.uy) (207.3.118.8) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 29 May 1999 21:29:58 -0000 Received: from [207.50.244.183] (r244-183.adinet.com.uy [207.50.244.183]) by zofanor.distrinet.com.uy with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id L7H2VDC0; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:24:12 -0300 X-Sender: axis@mailer.distrinet.com.uy Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0f2b01beaa10$eb3d14c0$1b8629c8@gavilanpollero> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:27:10 -0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Argentinian scene X-UIDL: 05e8eaea68c133e006d012590aabb387 From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Hi, The situation reported here it is not right about Uruguay, we have 5,000 Amiga users over here, most of them are video producers, and the Amigas are still used in various cable TV channels, broadcast TV, and producers. The situation is Amiga is cheap for video titling. An A500 sells between $80 and $150 (american dollars), a new G-Lock costs $510, an A1200 with HD $385, an A4000 040/40 sells complete for $800. The "new" look Amigas in Micronik Towers are $630 for an A1300T, and A1400T goes for $890, and an A1500T $1058. But users are regaining confidence in their Amiga investment and are trying to upgrade their systems. There is people that used to worked with Amiga that really misses it, so they are trying to get at least a used A500 or A1200. One thing that helped this situation is the higher cost and maintenance of a PC system, that is way beyond the reach of many, because production fares have to be kept low, otherwise the prospective clients don't buy anything. In the home market the PC reigns supreme, because there are few sources of information to encourage new buyers to get an Amiga. People is getting sick of Microsloth clones! Specially in production environments. Best Regards, G-LOCK: U$ 700 > >Amiga 500: between U$250 and U$300 > >Amiga 1200: between U$800 and U$1000 >You get the idea?? :-o// >Pretty sad, but thats the actual situation here. I have friends in Brazil >too, where the situation is a little better, and in Uruguay, where there are >some Amiga owners spreaded over there >well, i hope this illustrates you the South American Amiga situation!!!1 >Kind Regards!!!! >-------------------------------------G4vil4n >P0ll3r0-------------------------------------------- >Amiga 1200T - 48 megas - HD Seagate 4,3 - Modem Motorola 56 k >Blizzard 1230 050 - Blizzard SCSI kit - Monitor Commodore 1942 >CD-R Pioneer 16x - CD-W Teac 55RS - MIDI - DSS8+ - Zip Plus - >-------------------------------------Gavilan >Pollero--------------------------------------------- >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>ONElist members are using Shared Files in great ways! >>http://www.onelist.com >>Are you? If not, see our homepage for details. >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where the world talks! >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* --------------------------------------------------------- Ricardo Fitzgerald A1500T Micronik Blizzard PPC 603e 240 OmNI & 060 50 Mhz 64 Mb RAM CD 40 x HD6.4 Gb VLabMotion A2000 Apollo 2030 030 50 Mhz 32 Mb Wb3.1 PowerMac 9500 150 96 Mb RAM mailto:axis@distrinet.com.uy ICQ: 37031810 --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? http://www.onelist.com Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun May 30 11:38:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.13]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09298 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:37:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 21522 invoked by alias); 30 May 1999 11:38:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21517 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 11:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 May 1999 11:38:10 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.156] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10o3qg-0007fE-00; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:33:50 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Hitmonlee X-Zero-Hour: in 581 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmigaActive Online X-UIDL: 6ee0f52199929e8cc277b8570f553a45 From: Stephen Williams Nik Williams wrote: > http://www.amigaactive.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There's no double "a" between "Amiga" and "Active". It's http://www.amigactive.com/ -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From sw@nysa.u-net.com Sun May 30 12:30:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.221]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28673 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:11:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 28580 invoked by alias); 30 May 1999 17:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28535 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 17:12:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 May 1999 17:12:34 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.182] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 10o93U-0000z0-00; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:07:25 +0000 From: Stephen Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:30:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0pre7/AmigaOS - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Psyduck X-Zero-Hour: in 581 days, 10 hours, 29 minutes Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmigaNG under threat of being too easy? X-UIDL: 05c7ab95c9a284569c29f3a271e3a9aa From: Stephen Williams Chris Seward wrote: > My point is that which was does Amiga go? they will obviously want > to attract the mass novice market which will goto any new computer > so they will make it easy and colourful and almost child like so its > 'fun' and people who don't know about computers will like them, > but where does this leave us hard-core Amiga users? You just described the iMac! I've seen it described as a kind of "My First Computer" for adults. Like you, I really hope the Amiga doesn't end up like this. It's never been the Amiga philosophy though, whereas lowest common denominator dumbing-down has plagued the Macintosh from the beginning. > i really hate the PC they way that everything is sort of locked > away, i'm more of your Dos man on a PC because you have 'some' > freedom, but mainly in PCs it is all done for you, you can't be the > hacker in the original sence. Even so, you have to agree that MS-LOSS is hideous. In my opinion, Unix is a command-based OS done properly. For those of you who have never used a Unix variant, AmigaOS when controlled from the Shell is in many ways like Unix with all the hard parts taken out. There's a bit of VMS in there as well. > I like to play about with things...and change to suit me, the Amiga > gives you this power but the PC in alot of ways does not. Windows hardly gives you any of that power at all. Win(NT|9[58]) suffers from the same dumbing-down malaise as MacOS. > I don't want to see little documents flapping into a folder when > downloading because I can tell it is downloading by just a progress > bar or the receive light on the modem flashing or even just the > noise of the HD frantically accessing. I don't want buttons in > email programs that say 'Send to more than one user' and headings > like 'This will send to other users :' when we all know its talking > about CC: or BCC: the PC on the outsides is just to basic and > the Amiga is in danger of capturing that market. And we don't want no steenkin' dancing paperclips :-) I wonder if they will make it adaptable to different skill levels? For example, MUI-style bubble help could be on by default, but could be turned off by those of us who don't like it because we know what we're doing. Error messages could come in two versions: "verbose" and "terse", and the user could choose which they want. For example, when you format a disk, the warning messages could be: "Formatting the disk in drive DF0: will erase all the files currently on the disk. Are you sure you want to proceed?" (The buttons on the requester would be "Yes" and "No") "About to format disk in drive DF0:" (The buttons would be "Continue" and "Cancel"). All this stuff could be controlled with a Prefs program called "Expert" or something. You're right about the documents flapping between folders being stupid. A progress bar is all that is required, and would suit novices and experts alike. Similarly, email clients should talk to both novices and experts in terms like "CC:" and "BCC:", as these are the correct terms. As long if documentation is provided, the novices will be able to look the terms up and thus learn and understand about their computer. If everything is made dumb, they'll never learn and will remain novices for ever. If they don't want to learn, they shouldn't be using a computer. They wouldn't use a car if they weren't prepared to learn how to drive it properly. I hope that, however they decide to do the GUI, Shell control will be retained so that the Unix-heads among us can drop into a Shell and do everything that way. I hardly do anything from Workbench except launch programs. All my file copying, maintenance etc. is done from the Shell. I hope AmigaOS 5 has a POSIX API layer, so Unix programs can be ported easily. I want zsh (the mother of all Unix shells) on my Amiga :-) > Will Amiga grab the beginners and leave us out or will they make > it hard like it should be and please us who know how things work > and like a challenge now and again. It should be both easy and hard, depending on how you like your computer to behave. Windows would be much nicer if there was a "stop patronizing me" option. > Does it have room to take in both markets? Yes! See above paragraph. Does anyone else think someone should let Jim Collas or Allen Havemose know about this stuff? -Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK* From NikWilliams@connectfree.co.uk Sun May 30 15:48:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.235]) by bluey.thefree.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11933 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:28:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 14304 invoked by alias); 30 May 1999 15:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14295 invoked from network); 30 May 1999 15:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.connectfree.net) (212.1.130.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 30 May 1999 15:29:14 -0000 Received: from connectfree.co.uk ([212.1.149.2]) by radius.connectfree.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA00558 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:52:23 +0100 From: Nik Williams To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:48:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [just-amiga] AmigaActive Online X-UIDL: bd494d717b78402baeeb569a40ad2050 From: Nik Williams Hello Stephen On 30-May-99, you wrote: > From: Stephen Williams > > Nik Williams wrote: >> http://www.amigaactive.com > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > There's no double "a" between "Amiga" and "Active". It's > http://www.amigactive.com/ sorry -- For good quality MIDI files check out my website http://www.nikwilliams.connectfree.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking to expand your world? http://www.onelist.com ONElist has over 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEW AIO WEB SITE AT : *HTTP://WWW.AIO.CO.UK*