Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by star.flashnet.it (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24138 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:18:22 +0200 Received: from dc2-modem1194.dial.xs4all.nl (dc2-modem1194.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.132.170]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06464; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:17:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: 26 Sep 98 12:03:27 +0100 From: "Ruud Hoekzema" Subject: Re: About Wolfgang Lug To: Guido In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8782.573T1352T7233138@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: arnis@tripnet.se, L.UNGER@TU-BS.de, bjbjoern@online.no, Mika.Leinonen@oulu.fi X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) X-UIDL: b57514eadf81df9662750539cbde271a Guido schreef op 26-Sep-98: >23-Sep-98, Bo Arnholm wrote: >>I too feel real bad about that email-conversation in early August. >Could I read this email conversation? This is what probably triggered some things: ************************************** From: Ruud Hoekzema To: Wolfgang Lug Subject: Re: received aw 5.20 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 98 15:50:01 Message-ID: <3557.522T2814T9505204@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Hi Wolfgang, it's me again, >> [registration.asc] >> >> Ok, that shouldn't be too much work... >Ist es wirklich nicht. Ich schicke Dir sowohl die englische als auch die >deutsche Fassung der Datei. The translation is below. I found a rather strange error in the text: For the NETHERLANDS, BELGIUM and LUXEMBURG: Ruud Hoekzema Laan van Vollenhove 1539 3706 GB Zeist Holland Price: HFL 45,- or BFR 400,- BFR 400,- is only about DM 20,- :=) Or about half the price. I don't know where and when this mistake originated, and I very much wonder why I didn't notice it before, but the difference in price is a bit *too* much! :-) I changed it to BFR 800,-. Please do the same in the other registration files... All the best, Ruud *************************************************** Here is the last mail exchange Wolfgang, Bo and I had: ********************************* >From Lug@stud-mailer.uni-marburg.de Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:04:45 (+0100) From: Wolfgang Lug To: arnis Subject: future of AmigaWorld Date: Fri, 7 Aug 98 08:04:00 Message-ID: <19980807.7E287C8.6E8D@Lug.UUCP> Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.53])by maildrop.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10842for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.9.4])by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12031for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:06:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Lug (sppp084.Stud-PPP.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.9.216])by Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA26710for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:06:31 +0200 Received: by Lug.UUCP (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994)id AA01; Fri, 7 Aug 98 07:05:55 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Serious Voodoo 1.280 (Registered to Wolfgang Lug ) To: arnis@tripnet.se, rhoek@xs4all.nl X-UIDL: 2f7a2e2ac7e6361722739cba8829d3a8 Status: N Dear Bo, dear Ruud! AmigaWorld 5.21 was to be released two weeks ago if I remember right but I still haven't done it yet. I still like the program (well, it's mostly mine :) and would like to see it continued. Writing some new lines of program code is not so much of a problem for me, but doing all the related things like updating the data files, changing all these doc and history files every time, all these related works are getting on my nerves. As I said: I would like AmigaWorld to be continued and volunteer to stay in the AmigaWorld team as the programmer. But I really would like to see one or both of you in charge of the whole thing. This would mean: You become the prime (or only or however you decide) registration site, have to do all the non-programming work, and when you think that a new program feature is needed, then I will try to program it. What do you think? Best Wishes, Wolfgang -- // Wolfgang Lug // // (Lug@stud-mailer.uni-marburg.de) \\ // (Tel. +49-6421-63161) \// ************************************************* >From bosse@arnholm.nu Fri, 07 Aug 1998 17:23:43 +0200 From: Bo Arnholm To: Wolfgang Lug Subject: Re: future of AmigaWorld Date: Fri, 7 Aug 98 16:23:00 Message-ID: Reply-To: arnis@tripnet.se Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51])by maildrop.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24504for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:26:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from karos.tripnet.se (mail@karos.tripnet.se [195.100.19.5])by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29417for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (tripnet.se) [195.100.19.153] (arnis)by karos.tripnet.se with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1)id 0z4oPX-00005q-00 (Debian); Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:26:32 +0200 To: Wolfgang Lug , arnis@tripnet.se,rhoek@xs4all.nl X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by maildrop.xs4all.nl id RAA24504 X-UIDL: 8c0990dc624faa68a6c6bc7fb6054587 Status: N Hi, You can't do this to us! But I have another suggestion - why not try to get down to only one public update every year. That's when the datafiles are updated - I don't know when is best. I'll try to help in any way I can - but you know bloody well how little time I have. Best wishes Bo On 07-Aug-98, Wolfgang Lug wrote: > > Dear Bo, dear Ruud! > > AmigaWorld 5.21 was to be released two weeks ago if I remember right but I > still haven't done it yet. I still like the program (well, it's mostly mine > :) and would like to see it continued. Writing some new lines of program code > is not so much of a problem for me, but doing all the related things like > updating the data files, changing all these doc and history files every time, > all these related works are getting on my nerves. > > As I said: I would like AmigaWorld to be continued and volunteer to stay in > the AmigaWorld team as the programmer. But I really would like to see one or > both of you in charge of the whole thing. This would mean: You become the > prime (or only or however you decide) registration site, have to do all the > non-programming work, and when you think that a new program feature is needed, > then I will try to program it. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > Wolfgang > Regards -- Bo Arnholm, Södermalmsgatan 13, S-431 69 Mölndal, SWEDEN email: bosse@arnholm.se, URL: http://www4.tripnet.se/~arnis/ I am webmaster for The Rover Club of Sweden URL: http://www.tripnet.se/rcos/ ******************************************************** From: Ruud Hoekzema To: Bo Arnholm Subject: Re: future of AmigaWorld Date: Fri, 7 Aug 98 21:24:01 Message-ID: <2004.523T2755T12845077@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Lug@Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Hi Wolfgang, Bo, you wrote: >Hi, >You can't do this to us! >But I have another suggestion - why not try to get down to only one public >update every year. That's when the datafiles are updated - I don't know when >is best. Maybe this is a solution? >I'll try to help in any way I can - but you know bloody well how little time I >have. >On 07-Aug-98, Wolfgang Lug wrote: >> Dear Bo, dear Ruud! >> >> AmigaWorld 5.21 was to be released two weeks ago if I remember right but I >> still haven't done it yet. I still like the program (well, it's mostly mine >> :) and would like to see it continued. Writing some new lines of program >> code is not so much of a problem for me, but doing all the related things >> like updating the data files, changing all these doc and history files every >> time, all these related works are getting on my nerves. I'm not really surprised. Keeping all those files up to date and all the coordination must be an immense job, and a lousy one. >> As I said: I would like AmigaWorld to be continued and volunteer to stay in >> the AmigaWorld team as the programmer. But I really would like to see one >> or both of you in charge of the whole thing. This would mean: You become >> the prime (or only or however you decide) registration site, have to do all >> the non-programming work, and when you think that a new program feature is >> needed, then I will try to program it. >> >> What do you think? I don't know. If I would take that job, it would mean very slow updating, especially of the aw.data files. On the other hand, you have done all the related stuff for years now, and I can well imagine it's getting on your nerves. If you are really serious about delegating that task then I guess I could give it a try. Though I must honestly say it doesn't really attract me. But as long as you don't expect me to invest more than a few hours a week on average... oh, well... someone has got to do it. Best wishes, Ruud ****************************************************** All the best, Ruud