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From drstrange@usa.net Sat Nov 14 06:47:48 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--636-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 06:48:54 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 06:48:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 06:48:53 0000 Received: (qmail 24765 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 06:44:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 24686 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 06:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.jps.net) (209.63.224.235) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 06:44:42 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-235.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.235]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00814 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:47:48 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Mark Tierno Hello Andrew On 13-Nov-98, Andrew Crowe wrote: > Where? I can't see it on any of the Aminet Recent lists. Do a FIND for it off the German site, Wustl doesn't seem to have it by the other does. -- Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Fri Nov 13 20:58:14 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--638-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 14:58:29 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:58:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:58:28 0000 Received: (qmail 12917 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 15:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12590 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 15:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.27) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 15:00:32 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zeh9B-0002Mv-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:57:58 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:58:14 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! gets dragged on once more..... >> I know you'll probably be annoyed at the cross post, but It's worth >> it. >> Everyone: goto the aminet and download fastboot.lha NOW!!! >> It is amazing!!! It cut my boot time from 50 seconds down to 5 !! and >> it worked first time. I urge you to all at least try it, it's the best >> piece of software I have > Where? I can't see it on any of the Aminet Recent lists. it's not recent, just use the search thing > Anyway, what exactly does it do you your amiga to make it boot so fast? The reason computers boot so slowly is that there is lots of processing to do between each item that is loaded. fastboot simply grabs all the ram in use, copies it to your hd (about 2-3 megs) and whenever you boot it simply copies it back. perfect bootup in 5 seconds flat! -- Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mike@mikech.demon.co.uk Fri Nov 06 14:23:19 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--616-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 06 14:25:04 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:25:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:25:04 0000 Received: (qmail 7685 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 1998 14:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 7671 invoked from network); 6 Nov 1998 14:23:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 1998 14:23:34 -0000 Received: from [158.152.215.4] (helo=mikech.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zbmoJ-0006fA-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:24:23 +0000 From: Mike To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:23:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <363E164D.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AlienBreed3D editor V3.03 From: Mike > From: "Andy Kinsella" > I bought AB3D when it hit the shelves all those moons ago. I completed > level 1, got totaly hammered everytime I tried level2 and the goddam > menu was buggy as hell. Crashed rather frequently. Oh yes. > > Basically, I havn't touched it since. So, Is there a bunch of fixes > out there? I'd like to get my monies worth out of it one day 8) > > Baring in mind I have a rather pathetic 030@40 and AGA, could someone > point me toward some good stuff that will make it a pleasure rather > than veritable torture to play... Hi Andy There's only two "fixes" that I know of and niether are what you could call transformative. Aki Laukkanen's TKGPatch (available on aminet) which is a speed up patch, basically better C2P routines and an optional frame counter. Definitely worth having, but you'll still be cursing the speed. The other fix is for the Editor and was released by Andy Clitheroe. Also on Aminet. I have 030@50 AGA and consider most of my levels playable in 1x1 small screen, reduced rendering quality + TKGPatch, but some of the more complex ones I have to go down to 2x1. And when I say playable I mean playable not smooth. Others would doubtless disagree with "playable". If you come across AB3D1, get it. That IS smooth on 030 and though blocky its a great game. Getting totally hooked on that one is the reason I'm very tolerant of AB3d2's shortcomings - I just love the atmos. :) Also AB3D1 has a much more sensible difficulty curve and playing that gives you a big (skill) advantage when you start the next game. If you really do find AB3d2 too difficult the best thing to do is edit the TEST.LNK file with the GAMELINKER programme, and just increase the amount of life medipacs give you. To do this you will need SBUnpack (from Aminet) to unpack TEST.LNK and you will need to know to delete the .LNK from the load requester of GAMELINKER or it refuses to load it... (one of the many things Jens put right..) Oh dear, far too much waffling on about a 2 year old game... Regards Mike Child ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Sun Nov 15 14:13:25 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--642-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 15 14:53:07 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:53:07 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:53:06 0000 Received: (qmail 31079 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 1998 14:55:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31072 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1998 14:55:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb07.swip.net) (193.12.122.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 1998 14:55:26 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup237-3-22.swipnet.se [130.244.237.150]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07286; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:52:47 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: Ulf Engstrand , Just-Amiga-Mailinglist Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:13:25 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] [pamiga] OS partner announced! (fwd) From: Srdan Kvrgic *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Lau W. Nielsen Written on: 14-Nov-98 *** Begin of forwarded message *** Hi! Finally, after months of waiting AI announced the OS partner: QNX. I didn't know of that system until now, but it seems pretty cool, and much like the AmigaOS. You can read up on QNX at , but don't expect to find any mention of the Amga on that site yet. Regards, -- Lau W. Nielsen ICQ:17708169 ICQNick:Monster --«Powered by Amiga»-- ---- ...and todays tagline: A Law of Computer Programming: Make it possible for programmers to write in English and you will find the programmers cannot write in English. *** End of forwarded message *** -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss Famous Last Words #47: Don't worry, it doesn't eat meat... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Nov 17 18:59:29 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--643-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 17 19:16:11 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:16:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:16:11 0000 Received: (qmail 14500 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 1998 19:19:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4327 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1998 19:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb05.swip.net) (193.12.122.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 1998 19:09:49 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup203-1-17.swipnet.se [130.244.203.17]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27868; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:05:47 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: Ulf Engstrand , Just-Amiga-Mailinglist Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:59:29 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] [pamiga] Amiga OS Partner Info (fwd) From: Srdan Kvrgic The best news I've heard today! *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: John R. Jira Written on: 15-Nov-98 *** Begin of forwarded message *** #=#===================================================================== _ __ _ <>_ __ _ || /\\ |\ /|| || / ` /\\ || A M I G A U P D A T E /__\\ | \ / || || || ___ /__\\ || -News and Rumors- / \\_ | \/ ||_ _||_ \__// / \\_|| (An Occasional Newsletter) KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING || ====================================================================== AMIGA and the Amiga logo are trademarks of Gateway, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 981114 SPECIAL EDITION! A M I G A ' S O S P A R T N E R R E V E A L E D ! Editor's Thoughts and Introduction: We're very pleased to bring you this special edition of Amiga Update, in which we present the long awaited news about the Amiga's partner company for development of the next generation operating system. From our point of view, this looks like an excellent choice, one which should make all Amigans very pleased. Check out the details below for yourself. We think you'll finish with a smile on your face. The announcement was made Friday night, making Friday the 13th a lucky day for the Amiga. Enjoy, Brad Webb, Editor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- THE NEW PARTNERSHIP... At Computer '98, currently being held in Cologne, Germany, Amiga Incorporated has kept their promise and revealed (November 13) the company which will be their partner in developing Amiga OS 5.0 for the next generation machines. That company is the Canadian firm QNX Software Systems Ltd., makers of the realtime operating system QNX. What follows is information on QSSL, obtained from their website *_(http://www.qnx.com/,*_ and more in depth information direct from on-line question and answer sessions involving key Amiga Incorporated personnel in Cologne. A LOOK AT QSSL QSSL (QNX Software Systems Ltd.) Corporate Headquarters 175 Terence Matthews Crescent Kanata, Ontario Canada, K2M 1W8 QNX® RTOS QNX is a realtime, extensible POSIX-certified OS with a lean microkernel and a team of optional cooperating processes. This flexible architecture lets you scale QNX down for lean embedded systems, or scale it out to create a virtual super-computer orchestrating hundreds of processors. QNX®/Neutrino® QNX/Neutrino is a POSIX microkernel that can be scaled to a standalone system as small as 32K or as large as 4G. A subset of the modules available for our full OS are now available for QNX/Neutrino - with more being added every day. Currently QNX/Neutrino is being designed into deeply embedded applications such as telecom/datacom devices, industrial controllers, office equipment, and consumer electronics. We've also recently announced QNX/Neutrino with support for symmetric multiprocessing. This allows the same code base used in tiny embedded devices to be easily scaled up to large distributed networks of SMP clusters. QSSL COMPANY OVERVIEW QNX Software Systems Ltd. was founded in 1980 by Gordon Bell and Dan Dodge to develop, maintain, and market the QNX realtime operating system. Privately owned and self-financed, our company has been profitable each and every year. It has also enjoyed exceptional growth. In fact, over the past decade, we've expanded our corporate headquarters four times to handle increases in staff and production. We have over 40 distribution partners that serve almost 100 countries worldwide. To support our thriving distribution network in the European Community, we have a division, QNX Europe, located near London, England. Our corporate headquarters, which houses facilities for R&D, sales and marketing, and customer training, is located in "Silicon Valley North" just outside Ottawa, Canada. Business Philosophy Our approach to business is based on the firm belief that all dealings with us should be simple and convenient. For instance, we make our software modular from a technical as well as a pricing standpoint so that customers can keep costs to a minimum by ordering only those modules their target application needs. We strive to make our service and support the best in the business. We offer a 24-hour online conferencing and update system, a third-party solutions directory, and an international technology conference. We deliver three levels of technical support with varying degrees of phone, fax, and email support. And finally, we offer hands-on training as well as consulting services. Product Strategy ANSWERS FROM AMIGA INCORPORATED ... {The following sections have been edited from logs of IRC conferences held at Computer '98 and posted on the User Group Network website *_(http://ugn.amiga.org/).*_ We have edited them to save space and correct typos. Where important for understanding, we have left some questions in the text. Brad} FROM JEFF SCHINDLER, AMIGA INC'S GENERAL MANAGER JSchindl I want you all to understand that Dr. Allan Havemose is head and VP of devlopment So Allan will be working with QNX as our next generation foundation OS we will be building the next Amiga architecture on top of QNX low level OS The QNX OS is a microkernel RTOS that is fully protected. It is network\Internet centric supporing distributed processing. We will be adding information to our website amiga.com coving the QNX soon. We have many months of work ahead to add things like a gaming kit, multimedia, gui, ... to the foundation os ... we are planning a 24bit true color object oriented architecture ... we have many things in the definition stage at this point as we work with QNX. As many are aware we have been looking for a partner for the last 9 months. Dr. Havemose has been evaluating all the os possiblities for the best technology to fit the next amiga. I have been evaluting the companies to see if they would make the best working relationship and business partner. QNX was the winner in our minds by a long long way, then we had to negotiate how we would best work together. Most of the QNX engineers are Amiga people and have owned Amigas and many still use them, so they are very excited for this new opportunity. Both QNX presidents first home computers were Amigas We will be building on top of the QNX foundation and QNX is working on adding many low level features to support our plans for the new architecture. It will take several months to have the development platform ready to start programing apps to then months following this we will release our first version MARKETING DIRECTOR BILL MCEWEN ON QNX AND THE FUTURE Last night we announced the OS foundation partner. QNX! We were able to give breakdown of the OS, and see a demonstration of its capabilities. We will be placing the presentation and information on the web site by the end of the month. The team for the NGAmiga, will be announced soon, again we are in final specification stage with our partner, and we need to make sure that the teams can accomplish their tasks. We have spent over 18 months on market research, the target market is still Gaming/Internet. According to IDC this market will see 96% growth over the next 10 years, while PC growth will stall in the next two years and decline. DEVELOPMENT'S DR. ALAN HAVERMOSE SPEAKS Question: What advantage will QNX give us? Dr. Havermose: Several. most importantly it is a fully protected OS with processes and threads. Also the networking capabilities are very impressive. For instance, qnx supports transparent networking. where you can move an applications from one computer to another one without any special programming. Full support for TCP/IP, with java enabled browser. Microkenel architecture,where all device drivers run in user space havemose scalable from 100k rom with no disk to 100s for SMP systems networked. Powerful ... The classic OS upgrade is scheduled for release in the first half if 99. We have not given a real schedule for the new Amigas. We will first create a "development system" this will be followed systems. My focus right now is on the development system. {In OS 5.0} Networking is standard. Browser is standard. java is standard. Question: how many people will you/amiga inc hire for development ? Dr. Havermose: Outside the QNX development group I will probably initially hire under 20. More later. Question: Will amiga os 5 have the same structur as older amiga os version! I mean C: libs: startup-sequnce and so on? and the same device names and so :) Dr. Havermose: We haven't made those decisions yet. QNX's layout is different but very logical, so it will likely be somewhere in between We did a quick survey at qnx. More tna 60% of all engineers have or had amigas! They fully understand what Amiga is, was and what I want to do ! Very importnat to me. .. Some confusion here. People often use the words kernel and OS as synomyms. That is not the case. We will use must of the qnx as our FOUNDATION. Amiga will add OpenGL, multimedia, user interfaces configuration and lots of the user experience stuff. .. Question: With recent chip anouncments and developments, is the MMC still a good option? TB GA Dr Havermose: Assuming the MMC means the "mystery" chip. Yes, but we have multiple choice of of chips. havemose QNX works on both intel, PPC, mips, and several risk processors. So we do not have to make a choice yet and we havent. We are working on an "amiga on a PCI card". We plan to use that for the development system. We are investigating an emulatin option as well, even though I personally think that the AmigaPCI should havemose be sufficient. Question: Do you intend to use the X Window System, as QNX seems to support it now? Dr. Havermose no. Question: What exactly is an "OS partner"? What parts of the QNX OS do you find interesting? What parts of Classic AmigaOS can we expect to show up in AOS 5? Eh, ARexx? :) Dr. Havermose: qnx will provide kernel, file system, device drivers etc. Amiga will provide ui, graphics, 3d, multimedia, video etc. Question: Realtime OS means that now my multitrack audio/midi project will not loose sync?!? Dr. Havermose: Exactly. We can do a context switch will full context save/restore in less than 1 micro second. havemose This allows us and you to use the OS to synchronize video and audio. Question: Since the writer of glowicons works for SGI too, does this imply any further implication between SGI and Amiga? Dr. Havermose: no. Question: What functionality did you show in your demo last night of QNX-OS? Dr. Havermose: We moved an application from one computer to another live. It was running on PC1 and at the press of a button, it began running on a second system. We played doom running with 1/2 of doom on one PC and the other half on the other PC. This was doom on QNX, not Windows. Showed the multiple languages. Booted the entire OS with internet support, browser, word processor and an animation off a 1.4 MB floppy. qnx is mostly in embedded applications. They are in cisco routers, IBM's pervasive computing initiative, nucelear powerplants, the space shuttle, etc. Stuff that cannot crash ! Very impressive customer based. We will introduce new UI technologies which combined with the new OS and networking will put the havemose Amiga back in the lead again. The sysem can boot from a 100k rom without disks. It can boot using a bootrom plus a HD, every config is posisble. Graphics memory has no limitations,other than to do 1208x1024 in 24bits with double buffering you will need 4 to 8 MB. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Amiga Update on the net: some issues available at: Australian Mirror Site: *_http://www.comcen.com.au/~paulm/index.html*_ All back issues available (in ASCII text) at: *_http://www.globaldialog.com/AdventureCentral/AU/index.html*_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 1998 by Brad Webb. Freely distributable, if not modified. ====================================================================== _ __ _ <>_ __ _ A M I G A /\\ |\ /|| || / ` /\\ A M I G A U P D A T E /__\\ | \ / || || || ___ /__\\ U P D A T E / \\_ | \/ ||_ _||_ \__// / \\_ _amigaupdate@globaldialog.com_ ====================================================================== -- John R. Jira E-Mail: jrjira@ix.netcom.com Chula Vista, CA USA Regards, ill QNX give us?*** End of forwarded message *** -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss Top Ten Actual Country Song Titles: Nr7. You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly. id you show in your demo last night of QNX-OS? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bloelle@polbox.com Thu Nov 19 00:47:56 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--644-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 00:47:07 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:47:07 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:47:06 0000 Received: (qmail 25546 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 00:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 10464 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 00:11:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.polbox.com) (212.244.200.11) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 00:11:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.polbox.com (ppp-cen156.czestochowa.tpnet.pl [194.204.180.156]) by mx1.polbox.com (8.9.1/rev-A0) with SMTP id BAA06774 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:06:47 +0100 From: Mikolaj Calusinski To: just-amiga mailing list Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:47:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Mikolaj Calusinski Hi, It seems I found a long standing bug in ReadArgs routine of dos.library. It shows up when you try to supply a parameter (filename) which spells the same as in template and when the current path and parameter file are both in the same directory. To give it a try let's take, say, Multiview. Now, Multiview first parameter is 'FILE' - so copy any text file to RAM: and rename it as 'FILE'. Finally cd in shell to RAM: and type 'Multiview file' and see what happens... Are there any AmigaOS-Gurus on this list who could comment on this? Is this really a bug? If so, maybe someone could report this to AI, to make new release of SetPatch? (Personally I have no idea who's now responsible for Classic Amiga updates/development so I decided to report it here.) Regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikolaj Calusinski - MM - bloelle@kki.net.pl A1200/E-Box/040@33MHz/48MB/WD2.1GB/MITSUMI 4x/FHD+2FDD/Zoltrix33.6 Pure Amiga Fanatic ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk Thu Nov 19 10:11:50 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--645-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 09:13:11 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:13:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:13:10 0000 Received: (qmail 31477 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 09:17:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 31443 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 09:17:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk) (193.62.34.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 09:17:02 -0000 Received: from ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk (ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk [193.62.34.252]) by glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01207 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:12:22 GMT (envelope-from D.McMinn@eee.rgu.ac.uk) Message-Id: <199811190912.JAA01207@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> Received: from NS-EEE-1/SpoolDir by ns-eee-1.eee.rgu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 19 Nov 98 09:12:04 0 Received: from SpoolDir by NS-EEE-1 (Mercury 1.43); 19 Nov 98 09:11:57 0 From: "David Mcminn" Organization: The Robert Gordon University, E&EE To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:11:50 -0000 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: "David Mcminn" On 19 Nov 98, at 0:47, Mikolaj Calusinski wrote: > It seems I found a long standing bug in ReadArgs routine of dos.library. > It shows up when you try to supply a parameter (filename) which spells the > same as in template and when the current path and parameter file are both > in the same directory. To give it a try let's take, say, Multiview. Now, > Multiview first parameter is 'FILE' - so copy any text file to RAM: and > rename it as 'FILE'. Finally cd in shell to RAM: and type 'Multiview file' > and see what happens... Are there any AmigaOS-Gurus on this list who could > comment on this? Is this really a bug? If so, maybe someone could report > this to AI, to make new release of SetPatch? (Personally I have no idea > who's now responsible for Classic Amiga updates/development so I decided > to report it here.) Try multiview FILE=file and it works fine. OK you maybe shouldn't need to do that. However, it says in the Autodocs (which is pretty useless for non-programmers) that the ReadArgs function will remove parameters from the /M type to fill up the other keywords. And is it me or has there been a lack of postings recently? |) /\ \/ ][ |) |\/| © |\/| ][ |\| |\| d.mcminn@eee.rgu.ac.uk ICQ=16827694 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Thu Nov 19 11:15:43 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--646-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 10:22:37 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:22:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:22:37 0000 Received: (qmail 4514 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 10:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4383 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 10:20:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 10:20:04 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zgR7z-00003o-00; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:15:55 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 10:15:43 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Thu, 19 Nov 98 00:47:56) Lines: 41 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi Mikolaj > From: Mikolaj Calusinski > > Hi, > > It seems I found a long standing bug in ReadArgs routine of dos.library. It > shows up when you try to supply a parameter (filename) which spells the > same as in template and when the current path and parameter file are both in > the same directory. To give it a try let's take, say, Multiview. Now, > Multiview first parameter is 'FILE' - so copy any text file to RAM: and > rename it as 'FILE'. Finally cd in shell to RAM: and type 'Multiview file' > and see what happens... > Are there any AmigaOS-Gurus on this list who could comment on this? Is this > really a bug? If so, maybe someone could report this to AI, to make new > release of SetPatch? (Personally I have no idea who's now responsible for > Classic Amiga updates/development so I decided to report it here.) > This is known behaviour. Try Multiview "file" If a file happens to have the same name as a keyword you have to make it explicit just what you want. You can do this easily by putting the filename in quotes. You can also use wildcards. As for reporting problems - like most developers I have no idea where to send them. Apparently Haage & Partners are now entirely responsible for OS3.5 (Amiga Inc have sacked their OS3.5 project manager!), but there has been no formal announcement. I don't expect Amiga Inc to release any more Setpatch versions, but I guess H&P might. Anyway, in this case it isn't a bug, so the problem of where to send a bug report doesn't arise. Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Thu Nov 19 11:59:11 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--647-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 10:59:29 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:59:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:59:29 0000 Received: (qmail 20948 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 10:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20921 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 10:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 10:55:14 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zgRo2-0002TK-00; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:59:22 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 10:59:11 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <199811190912.JAA01207@glayva.eee.rgu.ac.uk> (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Thu, 19 Nov 98 09:11:50) Lines: 15 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi David > > And is it me or has there been a lack of postings recently? It's not just list - most Amiga mail lists are getting quieter by the week :( Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ragriffi@sprynet.com Thu Nov 19 03:14:50 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--648-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 11:02:21 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:02:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:02:20 0000 Received: (qmail 8094 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 11:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8062 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 11:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO m6.sprynet.com) (165.121.2.89) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 11:01:56 -0000 Received: from sprynet.com (ragriffi@hil-c45-064-vty192.as.wcom.net [199.174.244.192]) by m6.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06191 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:16:00 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Griffith To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:14:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Lacking; Does not play well with others. Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Richard Griffith On 18-Nov-98, Mikolaj Calusinski wrote: > It seems I found a long standing bug in ReadArgs routine of dos.library. It > shows up when you try to supply a parameter (filename) which spells the > same as in template and when the current path and parameter file are both > in the same directory. To give it a try let's take, say, Multiview. Now, > Multiview first parameter is 'FILE' - so copy any text file to RAM: and > rename it as 'FILE'. Finally cd in shell to RAM: and type 'Multiview file' > and see what happens... > Are there any AmigaOS-Gurus on this list who could comment on this? Is this > really a bug? Well, I wouldn't claim Guru status, but I'll comment anyway. I wouldn't exactly call this a bug, as it is a virtually unavoidable side effect of the parsing. The response seems appropriate, as it basically stops in face of an ambiguious condition, which is probably much stronger than trying to press on. By presenting a key word as the argument, you put ReadArgs in the position of determining what the program expects to do with the argument, which is a job it was not intended to do. It just sorts whatever the command line supplies into an order defined by the program. Although it seems 'wrong' in this case, imagine a potentially destructive command jumping to a conclusion that just because a file with the same name as a key word exists, choose to treat it as an argument rather than a key word. No protection, no safety net, no more file . . . The 'fix' is quite simple, just fully specify your arguments when such ambiguity exists, as in 'multiview file file'. That seems safer than any other alternative. -Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From 95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk Thu Nov 19 22:35:00 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--649-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 13:38:28 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:38:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:38:27 0000 Received: (qmail 16919 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 13:38:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16867 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 13:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.rmplc.co.uk) (194.154.16.99) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 13:37:57 -0000 Received: from mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk ([194.238.118.130]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA16373 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:37:45 GMT Received: from [194.238.118.160] by mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id za023269 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:35:01 +0000 From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:35:00 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Message-Id: <13350198406174@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] I need a Monitor! Recommendations? From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> Hi, I am thinking of getting a monitor for Christmas, but I need some recommendations of good ones to buy. I have a budget of about £150, and it would be great if I could use it if I got a PC to play GTA on!! Please help me! Lee Hesselden RSVP wrecker98@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 19 19:31:52 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--650-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 21:51:49 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:51:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:51:49 0000 Received: (qmail 5276 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 21:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26513 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 21:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 21:02:25 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zgbHT-0000DS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:06:24 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:31:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13350198406174@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: I need a Monitor! Recommendations? From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] I need a Monitor! Recommendations? gets dragged on once more..... > From: "95LHSC" <95LHSC@saltash.cornwall.sch.uk> > Hi, I am thinking of getting a monitor for Christmas, but I need some > recommendations of good ones to buy. I have a budget of about 150, and it > would be great if I could use it if I got a PC to play GTA on!! Mee too, I want one as well. I've seen power computing selling a 17" one for £240 with a .26 dotpitch. onscreen controls too anyone? -- Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From pauldix@valerie.u-net.com Thu Nov 19 23:23:45 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--652-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 23:17:15 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:17:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:17:14 0000 Received: (qmail 2275 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 23:12:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15656 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 22:24:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 22:24:13 -0000 Received: from (p102.nas2.is5.u-net.net) [195.102.200.230] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zgcUe-0004SM-00; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:24:05 +0000 From: "Paul Dixon" Organization: Private User Date: 19 Nov 98 22:23:45 +0000 Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0a Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Web page From: "Paul Dixon" Hello one and all, I have got my first web page up and running. Please go there and tell me how it looks Ta Paul -- Norwich City FC forever The "AMIGA" lives on mailto: paul@valerie.u-net.com Norfolk Amiga user group http://www.valerie.u-net.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From rom@digicolor.net Thu Nov 19 23:28:59 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--653-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 19 23:46:10 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:46:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:46:09 0000 Received: (qmail 19277 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 1998 23:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 841 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1998 23:08:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns.digicolor.net) (194.184.21.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1998 23:08:41 -0000 Received: from digicolor.net (romontic@ppp-9.digicolor.net [194.184.21.54]) by dns.digicolor.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA31763 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:00:20 +0100 From: Roberto Monticelli To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:28:59 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Aged MacroSystem scsis controller From: Roberto Monticelli Hi all, I need help: I bougt in Cologne98 a second-hand scsi controller for Zorro bus from Macrosystem. The problem is that it was without software driver. Sameone plese can orient me to find it? Thanks RoM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Thu Nov 19 20:01:42 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--654-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 20 20:02:08 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:02:08 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:02:07 0000 Received: (qmail 1521 invoked by alias); 20 Nov 1998 20:05:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15559 invoked from network); 20 Nov 1998 19:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb07.swip.net) (193.12.122.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 1998 19:11:40 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup161-2-53.swipnet.se [130.244.161.117]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA20000 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:07:10 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:01:42 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Tim On 19-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) > Hi David >> >> And is it me or has there been a lack of postings recently? > It's not just list - most Amiga mail lists are getting quieter by > the week :( Well, Pure-amiga still averages about 100/day , and the STRICQ list has gone up to roughly 40.. -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss If it walks out of your refrigerator, in heavens name, LET IT GO !! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bloelle@polbox.com Fri Nov 20 14:25:56 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--655-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 20 21:09:58 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:09:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:09:57 0000 Received: (qmail 15935 invoked by alias); 20 Nov 1998 21:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4602 invoked from network); 20 Nov 1998 19:55:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.polbox.com) (212.244.200.11) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 1998 19:55:52 -0000 Received: from smtp.polbox.com (ppp-cen140.czestochowa.tpnet.pl [194.204.180.140]) by mx1.polbox.com (8.9.1/rev-A0) with SMTP id UAA24155 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:56:22 +0100 From: Mikolaj Calusinski To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:25:56 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Mikolaj Calusinski Greets to all recipients, Thanks to those who replied for enlightening me. It's just like I suspected - this strange behaviour is known; I would argue whether it's 100% proper though. I considered myself quite experienced Amiga user; even coding little proggies in assembly from time to time. Two days ago I assembled a small util for my Apollo turboboard and it (in its early test version) had only one argument (filename). While testing, I assemble always to ram:, so imagine my surprise when it refused to process the file just because I copied it to ramdisk. (Accidentally the filename sounded exactly like keyword of course). Usually in cases like this I suspect my fault and start to debug - but then there were not really much to investigate; short code with simple template. I started to check other commands and it seemed to me I found a bug in Kickstart. That's the story - I knew how to deal with this; I just wondered if the reaction of dos is normal. So thanks again you let me now. Encouraged by this positive response :) I'd like to ask someone to be a betatester. I need to check one short routine on 060 processor; it would be ideal for a candidate to owe an A1200 Apollo/060 but not necessarily. The routine is a special, embedded version of access error traphandler I must use in my program. As techies know 040 and 060 differ seriously when it comes to exception stack frames, so I need to know whether my theoretically developed approach (God bless Motorola for providing free manuals! If C= has ever had a support like this... ;) actually works in hardware. So, are there any volunteers? Regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikolaj Calusinski - MM - bloelle@polbox.com A1200/E-Box/040@33MHz/48MB/WD2.1GB/MITSUMI 4x/FHD+2FDD/Zoltrix33.6 Pure Amiga Fanatic ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 21 21:35:38 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--666-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 20:35:06 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:35:06 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:35:05 0000 Received: (qmail 8420 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 20:39:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8356 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 20:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 20:39:23 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=bradman) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.053 #1) id 0zhJjt-0005jx-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:34:42 +0000 Message-ID: <002101be158e$808b3a60$605a989e@bradman> From: "Bradley Smith" To: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:35:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Saving dirs? From: "Bradley Smith" -----Original Message----- From: Chris Seward To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: 21 November 1998 19:24 Subject: [just-amiga] Saving dirs? >From: "Chris Seward" > >Does anyone know how you can save the list of files when you >'list' in cli? I need to save out the list of files with the sizes >so is it possible to save the list? otherwise it just goes shooting >off and you can't save it. Any ideas? Try list c:#? >ram:output That'll list the c dir to ram:output :) Brad Smith brad@tekrum.com brad@bradman.demon.co.uk http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk [IRC] ^Bradman^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From sandy@iro.u-net.com Sat Nov 21 21:27:06 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--662-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:33:38 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:33:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:33:37 0000 Received: (qmail 7670 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:33:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7615 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:33:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:33:17 -0000 Received: from (p94.nas2.is4.u-net.net) [195.102.196.209] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zhIml-0006yp-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:33:36 +0000 Date: 21 Nov 98 20:27:06 +0000 From: "Sandy Gudgeon" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <588.629T328T12273442@iro.u-net.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Saving dirs? From: "Sandy Gudgeon" --- On 21-Nov-98 17:16:51, Chris Seward said about [just-amiga] Saving dirs?: > From: "Chris Seward" > Does anyone know how you can save the list of files when you > 'list' in cli? I need to save out the list of files with the sizes > so is it possible to save the list? otherwise it just goes shooting > off and you can't save it. Any ideas? Redirect it to a file ? list sys: >ram:list.txt -- Sandy Gudgeon Team *AMIGA* ICQ 12624418 A4000/030 16+2MB 3.2GB HD CBM 1942 8x CD ROM AWA Team Member ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Fri Nov 20 19:55:28 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--656-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 00:52:16 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:52:16 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:52:15 0000 Received: (qmail 22632 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 00:48:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 4085 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 00:35:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 00:35:58 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:30:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.196.162] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:30:46 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:55:28 Message-ID: <9811201855.01042@mail.nomailserver.com> X-Mailer: MPDMailpost by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpost multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] News - Press Release From: "Chris Seward" FOR INSTANT RELEASE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PRESS RELEASE 20/11/98: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AmigaHeaven PD is to revolutionise the way Amiga PD is run. In the past I have found a few good PD librarys but alot of the programs they carry are old or out-of-date. This is not such a bad thing but if you are always looking for the latest programs then it can become a pain. AmigaHeaven PD is aimed at people without a modem and access to the great Aminet resource. We will ONLY be dealing in aminet pd from the latest and most recent downloads (updated weekly) this way you know you are getting the latest software and most of it cannot be found in other PD librarys. The price of each disk will be #1.50 including p&p and other charges. You decide which programs/files you want upto 800k and it will cost you no more than #1.50 you can ofcourse choose over 800k which will be spread across two disks and so on. Each additional disk is also #1.50. As well as the normal disk prices we also have some other offers available. Order 10+ disks and choose 1 free (800k) Order 25+ disks and choose 3 free (800k each) Order 50+ disks and choose 10 free (800k each) Single files over 800k will NOT be split and therefore can only be ordered on our HighDentity disk range. Please write/phone for further details. We also have a technical helpline for general queries/questions and comments which is open 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. Send now for a great catalogue disk. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 21 02:15:03 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--659-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:18:57 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:18:57 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:18:56 0000 Received: (qmail 17137 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:21:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17085 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:21:41 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:18:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:18:48 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:15:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: "Chris Seward" On 19-Nov-98, you wrote: > Well, Pure-amiga still averages about 100/day , and the STRICQ list has gone > up to roughly 40.. We'd be lucky to get 4 a day, what happend to the hugh amount that used to happen. Whats gone wrong? any ides suggestions. Kind Regards -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 21 16:26:27 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--660-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:19:39 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:19:39 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:19:38 0000 Received: (qmail 18613 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:22:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18494 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:22:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:22:14 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:19:23 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:19:21 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:26:27 Message-ID: <9811211526.01048@mail.nas9-36.thefree.net> X-Mailer: MPDMailpost by Andy Kellett (mushypd@redrose.net) X-Comment: Posted via MPDMailpost multi-personell mailer program X-Comment: This program will post the same piece of text to all recipients X-Comment: In a list which you can specify. If you would like a copy of X-Comment: Of this program, email me at mushypd@redrose.net X-Comment: This program is not to be abused, or used as a mass spammer Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO ISSUE 18 OUT From: "Chris Seward" ******************************************************************* AMIGA INFORMATION ONLINE ISSUE 18 OUT NOW (21.11.98) ******************************************************************* Aminet:Docs/Mags/AIOV18.lha Http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio ******************************************************************* Amiga Information Online issue 18 has now been released. This November 1998 issue is a great read with many interesting articles like an interview with Oliver Kastl of IDEfix fame and also Web of the Month. We have some great reviews including MAX Rally commercial game in for full review. !!!Make sure you don't miss this issue!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Sat Nov 21 16:45:07 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--658-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 17:12:57 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:12:57 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:12:56 0000 Received: (qmail 3023 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 17:12:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 2970 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 17:12:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb06.swip.net) (193.12.122.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 17:12:36 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup166-2-3.swipnet.se [130.244.166.67]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26044; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:12:41 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: Ulf Engstrand , Just-Amiga-Mailinglist Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:45:07 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] [pamiga] [UGN-NEWS] Computer98 report (fwd) (fwd) From: Srdan Kvrgic *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Bob Arceneaux Written on: 20-Nov-98 *** Begin of forwarded message *** Hi, all A report from Computer 98: *** Forwarded message, originally written by U. "puh" Seemann on 19-Nov-98 *** ***************forwarded message************ Report From Computer 98 From: heine@uni-hannover.de (Martin Heine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Cologne / Sober Analysis of the "Sober Analysis" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:43:00 Reply-To: Senex@gmx.de > Don't do anything rash on my account. If you go, you can give us a > report. : ) Well, I've been there - and I really don't regret it!!! Since still nobody else did, I'll give you a few infos about the press conference - but there's no warranty all I'll mention is correct, especially because the conference was not held in my native language. (Btw: Since I'll have to write this quick, the result will be horrible German-English; but I think you'll understand it anyway and since there's no other report yet in this NG this seems to be better than nothing.) Already just from having met the people of AI and the one of the two QNX-presidents who was there as well has reassured me. I'm quite certain we will get what we want. The conference was delayed. It was planned to make one exclusive first for the press, later the one for the public. But because of technical problems with the demonstration - at least I suppose this was the reason - this delayed. Therefore we were waiting before the room. Bill came out, said that it would be delayed, thanked us for our interest and patience and said in return to the delay he would let come some drinks for us: "Is this okay?" - Well, we didn't refused very much to accept this... =) Some time later he came again, said that it would delay a little bit more. He told us that it was originally planned to have that separate exclusive press-conference first, than the one for the public. So we sighed, expecting that we would have to wait even longer. But unexpectedly Bill offered that we could combine them, making just one conference for all, because of the delay. He asked us just to leave the first rows of seats in the room for the press. - Well, when the doors finally opened some minute later, and the crowd of Amiga-Fanatics stormed into the room, the "let first the press into the room" was no longer valid... :) At the conference were Jeff, Allan, Bill and Darreck of AI and of course Petro of AII. Additional there was one of the two presidents of QNX, but in the beginning he was sitting in the auditorium. In the auditorium was also someone from the german TV-channel ZDF. Therefore we can expect that the big news of the Amiga-QNX-cooperation will be reported correctly by them. At first Petro was speaking. The only new thing was that he confirmed that AII will build further A4000T using the parts from Quikpak, Mr. Hembach gave his okay. Petro said Mr.Hembach would be a nice guy, but the auditorium made clear it thought different about him... :) The Amiga-parts from Quikpak are currently shipping on the ocean, he told us. Then Bill spoke some introducing sentences and gave the word to Jeff, than spoke Allan. Some details about OS3.5 and OS5 were told, but nothing really new. And then the big news - the OS-Kernel-partner is QNX. A murmur went through the auditorium, many were disappointed in the beginning, because they did not know QNX and had expected a better known company like Be or Sun. But after the demonstrations they were certainly all as convinced as I that QNX is the best possible choice. Although it was already said in this NG that QNX is the partner and that their homepage is www.qnx.com, nobody told you that they are big Amigans! Many of their (IMHO 16) developers have an Amiga, and this even includes both presidents of QNX. The president told that the first computers he and his co-founder bought for the company (that was 1981) were PCs - but the first computers both they bought for private use at home were A1000s! He told us that he got due to the cooperation with AI spots of coffee in their office - because when they told this to their employees and asked them who of them would own an Amiga, some of them were currently standing at the coffee-machine... =) So you see we do not only have a very good Kernel-partner but even one who knows the Amiga - and loves it and is therefore excited to cooperate with AI for a comeback of Amiga. Corresponding were his words about Microsoft... :) Again we were told at the show that Amiga will be as much ahead the competitors when it's re-introduced as it was the first time. QNX architecture is very stable (as it has to, being even used in the Space Shuttle; wouldn't like to see Windows installed there, if I were an astronaut) and very compact. Those who were already on their homepage may have found their demo disk - surf the web not from HD but only from a small 1.44MB-disk. The disk was demonstrated as well. The new AmigaOS microkernel will be QNX' "Neutrino". It is extremely modular, so it fits the needs of AI's DC-plans: from settop-box to workstation you'll have the same kernel core and add as much components as needed for the specific device. Something new in computing is their GUI "Photon" - it's the first microGUI. For details please look at their Homepage. They demonstrated QNX RTOS and the auditorium was impressed. Demonstrating the abilities of the GUI, he showed us a window not only as used from it's "front", but also from it's side - i.e. just a vertical line, because the window was 2D, of course. Then he demonstrated how a programm running in a window on one computer was retargeted to another computer without any delay and easily back by clicking on a button on the window-border for this purpose. Also it was shown that the demo-programm was on both computers at the same time, so that any action (for example mouse-movement to press a button in this demo-program, a card-game) could be done from each computer. Because of the QNX-architecture it is very easy to spread the tasks for example of a Raytracer to many other computers to speed it up. But most impressive was the following. He started Doom in a window and moved the window around while Doom was running without any impairments. No, this wasn't what I meant to be impressive. Very impressive was what happened when he moved the doom-window to the right border of the screen: as much as it got beyond the screenborder of the first computer, it appeared at the left border of the second computer's screen! So he moved the window from the one computer's screen step by step on the other's one. Then he drew it back a bit, so that the left half of the still running Doom was on the one computer's screen, the other one on the other's. After the conference we had half an hour to speak individually with Petro, Jeff, Allan and the president of QWX (a very nice man, like the AI-crew). Regarding the Sober Analysis-Thread it seems I were wrong. I thought the OS-partner would be "BIG" in the meaning of well-known, rich and with certain influence. (But the reality is much better in my opinion, too.) But now it seems that the whole project is really something AI has initiated, therefor I admit my speculations were wrong. Looking at AI, QNX and - maybe - Transmeta, we have three small companies that fit very good together, being "BIG" in quality but not in quantity and complementing each other. I did not ask Jeff about my former speculation regarding AI may not be the initiator of this project, because I talked to others before, and when I came to Jeff again the time was already more than over and he was already talking with a woman (I suppose it was his wife) about other stuff, the computers were already removed and I was already the last user who was there, so I decided not to disturb him. But looking at the facts as they are now, it's very likely this was initiated by AI, especially being aware that they were at first thinking about another OS-partner. Obviously they heard about Transmeta (or whoever the MMC-maker is, but the details and the time of the patent (because it was said they'll tell us MMC-maker's name around this time, i.e. in January) make it somewhat likely) due to their GW-relationship and found later QNX; as they told due to the WOA-announcement - maybe due to it the QNX-Amigans heard about AI and their plans and contacted them then. Instead of this I asked the QNX-president about another topic - because they licence their technology to many third parties I wanted to know if it could happen that they licence it to a competitor of AI as well or if Amiga would have exclusive access to their technology. But now I notice that I didn't tell yet something about the very big question that rose out of their cooperation: Why did they cooperate with AI instead of doing it all at their own since they already have a running RT-OS? What's their benefit? Well, AI's work will mainly be to implement the APIs. As Jeff told us they'll use standard APIs like OpenGL where standards are and that they'll implement new ones where necessary - there he sees a chance for AI setting new standards. The QNX-president told IMHO (I did not understand all, and the bit I heard had still to be translated) that the reason why they cooperate with AI is that they want to concentrate on their kernel, while AI has to make a full OS out of it for the DC-market. QNX is small regarding employees but of a good quality because they focus on this core and care there about every detail, he told us. And regarding the question if AI has to fear competition licencing the same technology the president told me that he could not tell me more about this topic due to contracts but he gave me the impression that this would not be their aim - their licenced partner for the market-segment of Digital Convergence is Amiga Inc. All in all I have to say that I'm very satisfied with what I've heard and seen at Cologne and that I'm sure AI do their work very well and therefore will have a certain chance. Anyway I doubt very much that it will be easy to be successful, because since the partner is no "BIG" company in the definition I gave above it will be harder to get a foot into the markets. And, to add this, I wouldn't count that much on GW's money regarding this. After the official part of the conference Jeff stressed again on the question about the relationship GW-AI that GW keeps AI very separate; GW does it's PC-business, AI does it's Amiga-business. So far about my memories of the press conference. Hope I could tell some users a little bit new. - - Brought to you by World News (Amiga) v1.0 - - **************end of forwarded message*********** regardz, uLf . ` -- ____ _ __ ________ _ . ·-- __ __/ __/__ _/|___ _/ |/\/(_)_ __/ / -- iTl@nWn.dE ·-- / // /\ \(_-<> _< _ `//|//\/ / / / / /__ -_ _ \_/ . ·-- \_,_/___/___/|/ \_, /____ /_/ /_/ /____/ _ / \ ^ · .-- -]AMiGA[- /___//___/HonEYBee@tOPscOpE.oHz.noRTh.dE *** End of forwarded message *** 19-Nov-98 01:41:52 -- Bob Arceneaux - *Team AMIGA* Mandeville, Louisiana, USA /You know you're a redneck if/ *Your idea of a 7 course meal is a bucket of KFC and a sixpack.* ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ*** End of forwarded message *** -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 21 18:16:51 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--661-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:24:49 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:24:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:24:48 0000 Received: (qmail 9455 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:20:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9439 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:20:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:20:32 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:21:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:21:42 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:16:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Saving dirs? From: "Chris Seward" Does anyone know how you can save the list of files when you 'list' in cli? I need to save out the list of files with the sizes so is it possible to save the list? otherwise it just goes shooting off and you can't save it. Any ideas? Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 21 19:38:21 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--663-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:38:33 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:38:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:38:32 0000 Received: (qmail 18181 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17976 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:42:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:42:58 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:38:23 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:38:22 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:38:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <588.629T328T12273442@iro.u-net.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Saving dirs? (Ta) From: "Chris Seward" Hi Sandy. > Redirect it to a file ? list sys: >ram:list.txt Ta. Worked a treat :) Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From The-Logics@usa.net Sat Nov 21 19:34:00 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--667-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 21:51:25 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:51:25 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:51:24 0000 Received: (qmail 20700 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 21:54:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 20626 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 21:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO servernt.cscompu.com.ar) (200.16.214.2) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 21:53:53 -0000 Received: from usa.net ([200.16.214.69]) by servernt.cscompu.com.ar (Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 215 ID# 0-52876U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id ar for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:00:06 -0300 From: The LOGIC's To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:34:00 -0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Logic's Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Subscribe From: The LOGIC's Hi: Any1 can tell me how to subscribe to this list? A friend want to enter but i can't remeber how i'm here. just-amiga-subscribe@onelist.com?? Bye, Gonzalo. The LOGIC's The-Logics@usa.net -- O N L Y A M I G A M A K E S I T P O S S I B L E AMIGA 4000/060/42Mb/CVPPC-8Mb/4.3Gb/CDR Teac4x12 M1084/USR 33K6/PS 3.0/EpsonStylus 600C Socio CUAE Nº215/Private User Reg. of MakeCD AIO Mag Distributor/Importador AMIGA Argentina/ICQ #22329491 Secretario Gral. AMIGA CLub Argentina mailto:amigaclub@usa.net http://members.xoom.com/under construction Los recuerdos no pueblan la soledad, la hace más profunda. G.F. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 21 21:58:07 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--668-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 21:58:24 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:58:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:58:23 0000 Received: (qmail 19325 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 21:57:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19266 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 21:57:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 21:57:30 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:58:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.15] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:58:08 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:58:07 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Subscribe From: "Chris Seward" The Logics, On 21-Nov-98, you wrote: > Any1 can tell me how to subscribe to this list? A friend want to enter but i > can't remeber how i'm here. Goto http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga and take it from there. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From aMIGA_dUDE@aSSIGN.u-nET.cOM Sat Nov 21 23:33:46 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--669-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 22:45:11 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:45:11 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:45:10 0000 Received: (qmail 25392 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 22:44:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25356 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 22:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 22:44:41 -0000 Received: from (p57.nas2.is5.u-net.net) [195.102.200.185] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zhLir-0004EN-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:41:45 +0000 From: "Andrew" Organization: Author of ProPassWord , AmiVisual , IRCGamer Date: 21 Nov 98 22:33:46 +0000 X-Face: (_q}6lZ;BQops9`}X~b69)+|*BiJl_ur1MVm@7?1L%b8~r^vjuPaA+*y_KvLLQF.~mMmTO5@)C56oH;@6Zw(D}.-Fw!a+i58GajsiC$/C.!.zW,hx Message-Id: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0a Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] ProPassWord (Aminet) From: "Andrew" Please note, if you are using Aminet version of ProPassWord you might be having some problems. They are know and fix has been sent to Aminet. Please give the Aminet at least to next Saturday before you down load the fix. Sorry. Amient:utils/misc/ProPassWord.lha Old, Short : PPW is a FOF securty System 0.16b (ENGLISH ONLY) New, Short : PPW is a FOF securty System 0.16b (Rev 2) -- Where to to get your dose a Micro$lop news http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_203000/203557.stm http://www.cnnfn.com/specials/antitrust/ -- \\//Amiga\\// Team AMIGA -- 603e+ 233/040 32 Meg, Zip, CD-Rom. Kickstart 3.1 Pace56 External Voice. ISP http://www.wirenet.co.uk/ -- Where to to get your dose a Micro$lop news http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_203000/203557.stm http://www.cnnfn.com/specials/antitrust/ -- \\//Amiga\\// Team AMIGA -- 603e+ 233/040 32 Meg, Zip, CD-Rom. Kickstart 3.1 Pace56 External Voice. ISP http://www.wirenet.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Mon Nov 02 21:30:05 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--614-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 03 00:01:00 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:01:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:00:59 0000 Received: (qmail 14047 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 1998 00:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12261 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1998 00:01:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 1998 00:01:35 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk ([195.40.5.13] ident=qmailr) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #3) id 0zaTwT-0000lk-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:03:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 28884 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1998 00:14:06 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-215.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.206.215) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 3 Nov 1998 00:14:06 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 2 Nov 98 20:30:05 +0000 Message-Id: <363E164D.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AlienBreed3D editor V3.03 From: "Andy Kinsella" A feller called Mike said this: > Just a quick note to say (1) thanks to Jens for his work on the editor, > please accept my apologies for not sending you an email before, I've been > meaning to for ages. I've used the original, your versions 2.01, 2.13 and to > a lesser extent the 3.xx ones, which brings me to (2)... > > I have very nearly completed a full 16 level replacement game for AB3D2 > including such delights as a mini rocket launcher that doesn't block your > view (killing wasps in confined spaces with this is actually fun!), a flare > laser to light up dark areas, my fave monsters from AB3D1, some new aliens > and game features not exploited in the original, and an OTT > going-insane-with-terror story line... > > I'm doing a final (hopefully) play through now and hope to have the archive > on Aminet in time for Christmas :) > Greetings, I bought AB3D when it hit the shelves all those moons ago. I completed level 1, got totaly hammered everytime I tried level2 and the goddam menu was buggy as hell. Crashed rather frequently. Oh yes. Basically, I havn't touched it since. So, Is there a bunch of fixes out there? I'd like to get my monies worth out of it one day 8) Baring in mind I have a rather pathetic 030@40 and AGA, could someone point me toward some good stuff that will make it a pleasure rather than veritable torture to play... -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-group.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From wrecker98@geocities.com Wed Nov 04 10:46:15 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--615-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 04 10:06:46 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:06:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:06:46 0000 Received: (qmail 23055 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 1998 10:08:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23032 invoked from network); 4 Nov 1998 10:07:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.rmplc.co.uk) (194.154.16.99) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 1998 10:07:57 -0000 Received: from mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk ([194.238.118.130]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24396 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:20 GMT Received: from [194.238.118.225] by mail.saltash.cornwall.sch.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id qa022454 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:46:15 +0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19981104094615.2a2fb1fc@194.238.118.130> X-Sender: 95LHSC@194.238.118.130 (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: Wrecker98 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:46:15 +0000 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] I need some graphics! Help? From: Wrecker98 Hi, There are about 150 of you on this mailing list, and I think at least one of you fellow Amigians could help me. I am thinking of making a web site called Amiga Gamer. I already have 20mb web space thanks to Fortune City, I have some HTML knowledge and all I need is some quality graphics. I need your help!! Can you do graphics?? To start with I need a logo about 100x100 pixels in size, in hi-res interlaced. I need it to say Amiga Gamer, orif you like you can shorten Amiga Gamer to AG. I would be grateful if anyone can help me? If you can please EMail me personally, with you ideas, name, and examples?? Thanks again, - Lee Hesselden AIO Games Editor a.k.a. wrecker98 wrecker98@geocities.com My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/7110/ A.I.O Web Site: http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 14 12:25:04 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--639-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 20:57:51 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:50 0000 Received: (qmail 20991 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 20:53:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20591 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 20:53:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 20:53:25 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.144] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:21 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:25:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: "Chris Seward" Andrew Crowe, On 14-Nov-98, you wrote: > Anyway, what exactly does it do you your amiga to make it boot so fast? Probably deletes half your startup-sequence :) I know mine would go super fast if I did that ;} Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From willik@bellatlantic.net Sat Nov 21 10:42:40 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--664-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:43:26 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:43:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:43:25 0000 Received: (qmail 8474 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8468 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iconmail.bellatlantic.net) (199.173.162.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:42:28 -0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-204-202-136.bellatlantic.net [151.204.202.136]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id OAA26355 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:42:48 -0500 (EST) From: Willi Kusche To: Chris Seward Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:42:40 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Saving 'LIST' output From: Willi Kusche Hi! 'LIST >ram:savedList'. Willi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From drstrange@usa.net Sun Nov 08 08:48:21 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--619-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 08:49:10 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 08:49:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 08:49:10 0000 Received: (qmail 19853 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 08:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 19824 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 08:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.jps.net) (209.63.224.235) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 08:47:40 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-219.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.219]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA11427 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 00:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 00:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIO Hot topic! From: Mark Tierno Hello Chris On 07-Nov-98, Chris Seward wrote: > > Also is my mail messed up or has the list gone sleeping? zzzzzzzz... huh? wha? -- Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you ready to put all of your color pictures on your website or email them to friends? XOOM.com has high quality scanners for only $69.95! http://orders.xoom.com/scn/lsscn1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Tue Nov 24 19:41:51 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--697-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 00:04:53 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:54 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:53 0000 Received: (qmail 8581 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 00:07:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8571 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 00:07:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 00:07:55 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.89] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:45 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:41:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Come on...... From: "Chris Seward" Right i'm now up to £40 of donations including some of my money and still looking for help, it would only take 20 more people sending £10 to raise enough money to beable to buy the site. You can send in any major currency, just add a bit extra as they charge to convert money, i'll get it changed. With Christmas around the corner see if you have any spare change you can donate, the address is :- Chris Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside, L62 9EU. ENGLAND. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Wed Nov 25 21:35:14 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--698-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 00:04:55 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:55 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:54 0000 Received: (qmail 8690 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 00:07:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 8582 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 00:07:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 00:07:58 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.89] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:48 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:35:14 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] UK FREE INTERNET... From: "Chris Seward" Right, for those of you who havn't heard of this yet i'm just letting you know the basics. In the UK you can now get a free internet account. How it works... Goto Dixons and ask for there free internet package Goto a PC owning friend and setup the software, login etc. Take the username and password from the account and stick it into your Miami or whatever. There you go a free internet account, no £10 a month internet charge, you get email addresses and web space, an example for just-amiga might be :- Email : *@justamiga.freeserver.co.uk (* can be anything) Web : www.justamiga.freeserver.co.uk Simple, wondering how they make thier money? the helpline is £1 a minuite, so aslong as you don't phone the helpline its free internet. Note : I take no responsibility for mis typed or errors, incorrect information. ^^ thats just incase but it worked fine for me and others. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ragnar.fyri@daf.no Sun Nov 08 10:54:30 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--620-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 09:56:20 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:56:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:56:20 0000 Received: (qmail 23111 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 09:58:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 23087 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 09:58:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO login-2.eunet.no) (193.71.71.239) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 09:58:15 -0000 Received: from daf.no (rfyri@pc3.pm2-3.eunet.no [193.71.251.3]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.9.0/8.9.0/GN) with SMTP id KAA11699 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:55:56 +0100 (CET) From: Ragnar Fyri To: Mark Tierno Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:54:30 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIO Hot topic! From: Ragnar Fyri 'Twas the night before 08-Nov-98, and all through the net, not a creature was stirring, except for Mark, who whispered ominously: >On 07-Nov-98, Chris Seward wrote: >> >> Also is my mail messed up or has the list gone sleeping? >zzzzzzzz... > huh? wha? "Pretty quiet out there..." "Yeah, almost *too* quiet..." And it's not just this list. This was half the mail I got this morning... -- We'll be right back after these messages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a jump start on your web site? XOOM.com Web Site Templates 250 helps you get your site up and running in no time. Only $29.95! http://orders.xoom.com/tmp/lstmp1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 07 18:01:32 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--617-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 07 20:26:56 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:26:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:26:55 0000 Received: (qmail 27403 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 1998 20:28:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27397 invoked from network); 7 Nov 1998 20:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 1998 20:28:54 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:26:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.210] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:26:44 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 18:01:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] AIO Hot topic! From: "Chris Seward" Any comments, ideas on the following question for AIO? "do you think the Amiga can take over the richest man in the world, B*ll G*tes?" Send ideas/comments to : amiga@thefree.net Thanks! Also is my mail messed up or has the list gone sleeping? Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 35 UKP/243 UKP [XXX/--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a jump start on your web site? XOOM.com Web Site Templates 250 helps you get your site up and running in no time. Only $29.95! http://orders.xoom.com/tmp/lstmp1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 14 19:26:31 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--640-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 20:57:59 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:58:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:59 0000 Received: (qmail 21198 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 20:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21178 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 20:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 20:53:53 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.144] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:57:49 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:26:31 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Check out the new AIO gui From: "Chris Seward" Right, i've just uploaded a preview picture of the new AIO gui, check it out at Aminet : Docs/Anno / aiogui.lha AIO issue 18 with this new gui will be out in one week on *21st* *November 1998*, check it out for this new great GUI and also for the 5 christmas compos which include :- 2 copies of Amiga Quake to give away 2 copies of Space Station 3000 to give away Max Rally with 4ply adaptor compo Vulcanology, Uropa2, Final Odyssey to give away IDEfix registered to give away. See you there, check out *www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/* Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Nov 14 12:17:01 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--637-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 11:18:45 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:18:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:18:45 0000 Received: (qmail 19280 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 11:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19217 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 11:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 11:20:56 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@ppp72.enterprise.net [194.72.195.72]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07662 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:18:20 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:17:01 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Everyone: goto the aminet and download fastboot.lha NOW!!! > It is amazing!!! It cut my boot time from 50 seconds down to 5 !! and > it worked first time. I urge you to all at least try it, it's the best > piece of software I have Ok, I've had a look at the contents of fastboot archive, and it seems to be a simple extention of the action replay's save state command. I will definatly NOT be using this on my amiga, I know how unstable these hacks can be. The author even give a riminder to refresh your memory grab every time you add/remove new hardware (like if I disable my PPC board with "2") or your harddrive'll get trashed. Anyway, my bootup time is only 30 seconds. If you have a stable amiga config, and arn't likely to change anything on the fly, then it /should/ be safe to use this. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed. -- Carolyn Scheppner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From scubidu@netcomuk.co.uk Sun Nov 22 13:53:53 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--670-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 13:59:44 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:59:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:59:43 0000 Received: (qmail 2371 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 14:04:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2360 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 14:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO camelot.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 14:04:22 -0000 Received: from dialup-12-21.netcomuk.co.uk (nobody@dialup-12-21.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.231.21]) by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07777 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:59:33 GMT From: "SCUBIDU" Organization: Private User Date: 22 Nov 98 13:53:53 +0100 Message-Id: <36581770.MD-0.196.scubidu@netcomuk.co.uk> To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.196 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] MPEG AUDIO ENCODERS ??? From: "SCUBIDU" Hi, all, Does anyone know the whereabouts of an Mpeg audio encoder, so as to make My own tracks? Any help would be gratfully recieved Scubidu -- LIFE'S A BEACH, THEN YOU DIVE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk Sun Nov 22 22:51:42 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--671-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 21:55:32 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:55:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:55:31 0000 Received: (qmail 7292 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 21:58:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 7118 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 21:58:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 21:58:11 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bill.eaves@man-210.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.43.12]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01128 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:55:09 GMT From: Bill Eaves To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:51:42 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Bill Eaves Hello, Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU mailing list seems to have disappeared? Kind regards Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Sun Nov 22 20:35:16 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--672-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 22:11:47 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:11:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:11:46 0000 Received: (qmail 25074 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 22:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24756 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:10:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:10:49 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.053 #1) id 0zhhiy-0000r0-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:11:20 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:35:16 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36581770.MD-0.196.scubidu@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPEG AUDIO ENCODERS ??? From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] MPEG AUDIO ENCODERS ??? gets dragged on once more..... > From: "SCUBIDU" > Hi, all, > Does anyone know the whereabouts of an Mpeg audio > encoder, so as to make My own tracks? Pegase is one, but I cant work it :( -- In order to get in front, there must be someone behind you. -- Matthew O'Neill Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ragnar.fyri@daf.no Sun Nov 22 23:22:22 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--673-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 22:24:53 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:24:53 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:24:50 0000 Received: (qmail 29598 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 22:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 29430 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:24:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO login-2.eunet.no) (193.71.71.239) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:24:22 -0000 Received: from daf.no (rfyri@pc22.pm2-5.eunet.no [193.71.251.85]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.9.0/8.9.0/GN) with SMTP id XAA26472 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:24:27 +0100 (CET) From: Ragnar Fyri To: Bill Eaves Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:22:22 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Ragnar Fyri 'Twas the night before 22-Nov-98, and all through the net, not a creature was stirring, except for Bill, who whispered ominously: >From: Bill Eaves >Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU >mailing list seems to have disappeared? Probably disappeared when the magazine did? -- We'll be right back after these messages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Nov 22 23:30:58 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--674-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 22:32:47 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:32:47 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:32:46 0000 Received: (qmail 14767 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 22:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 14699 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:31:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:31:54 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@max02-090.enterprise.net [194.72.197.90]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20152; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:32:23 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com, powerup@lists.best.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:30:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Who wants to port a full 386 emu. (in C) that runs win95? From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, C'mon guys, I have the source of a full 386 emulator in C. It can run win95 etc. I can't do a port myself, but I'm sure there's someone out there who can do a PPC/68k port of it. So, if anyone wants the source then I have a copy, just ask ;) See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From aj.cashmore@ukonline.co.uk Sun Nov 22 23:35:08 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--675-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 22:37:13 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:37:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:37:10 0000 Received: (qmail 9219 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 22:36:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 9029 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:36:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:36:31 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk ([195.40.112.13] ident=qmailr) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #3) id 0zhi99-0002xb-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:38:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 13461 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:52:25 -0000 Received: from tnt-1-208.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (aj.cashmore@195.40.206.208) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:52:25 -0000 From: Andrew Cashmore To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:35:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Andrew Cashmore Hello Ragnar On 22-Nov-98, you wrote: >> From: Bill Eaves > >> Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU >> mailing list seems to have disappeared? > > Probably disappeared when the magazine did? IIRC someone on another list mentioned that FCI's cable had been damaged or something like that. I think it's just gone down rather than gone away. Yours, Andy. -- Don't wrestle a pig in a mudhole. You both get all dirty, and the pig enjoys it. *Team AMIGA* A1200T 040/25 603/166 2MB/32MB 1.6GB HD + 24x CD + ZIP http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From gpeake@wt.net Mon Nov 02 00:29:12 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--612-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 02 00:20:44 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:20:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:20:43 0000 Received: (qmail 29996 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 1998 00:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29813 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1998 00:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sys32.hou.wt.net) (205.230.159.32) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 1998 00:22:16 -0000 Received: from 208-236-17-30.wt.net (208-236-17-30.wt.net [208.236.17.30]) by sys32.hou.wt.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA25732; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:27:16 -0600 (CST) Date: 01 Nov 98 17:29:12 -0600 From: "Gary Peake" To: "Gavin Williams" In-Reply-To: <000301be05e2$efd64f60$fb41e4d4@gavin> Message-ID: <760.609T602T10493342gpeake@wt.net> X-HTTP: http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/ X-Organization: Team AMIGA Worldwide Cc: just-amiga@onelist.com, blitz-list@netsoc.ucd.ie X-Mailer: THOR 2.6 Jupiter (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: New Amiga rumours I found..... From: "Gary Peake" gavin@micro-media.demon.co.uk scribed to us about [just-amiga] New Amiga rumours I found..... in Just_Amiga >From: "Gavin Williams" >Hi all. >Just surfing the net one night and found this on a Mac page. You may >find it interesting. Have a look at >http://macweek.zdnet.com/1998/10/26/op-knife.html for the full story. The entire article was garbage ... do not believe any of it. -- gpeake@wt.net http://web.wt.net/~gpeake/ babylon.beyondirc.net #team*amiga -- Team AMIGA - Dedicated, motivated, and committed to changing the world of computing. 6000 plus strong and growing daily! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mike@mikech.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 02 15:02:02 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--613-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 02 15:03:51 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:03:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:03:50 0000 Received: (qmail 6093 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 1998 15:05:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 5983 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1998 15:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 1998 15:05:09 -0000 Received: from [158.152.215.4] (helo=mikech.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zaLVb-0003w4-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:03:08 +0000 From: Mike To: just-amiga@onelist.com CC: Jens Vang Petersen Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:02:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AlienBreed3D editor V3.03 From: Mike > From: Jens Vang Petersen > > Hello, Everyone.. > > I've only recived a few bug-reports since I released V3.02 of the AlienBreed > 3D-II LevelED 3 months ago. So either there's not many bugs left, or noone > uses the program anymore. Anyway I've decided to release a version that Just a quick note to say (1) thanks to Jens for his work on the editor, please accept my apologies for not sending you an email before, I've been meaning to for ages. I've used the original, your versions 2.01, 2.13 and to a lesser extent the 3.xx ones, which brings me to (2)... I have very nearly completed a full 16 level replacement game for AB3D2 including such delights as a mini rocket launcher that doesn't block your view (killing wasps in confined spaces with this is actually fun!), a flare laser to light up dark areas, my fave monsters from AB3D1, some new aliens and game features not exploited in the original, and an OTT going-insane-with-terror story line... I'm doing a final (hopefully) play through now and hope to have the archive on Aminet in time for Christmas :) Regards Mike Child PS. 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Now you can, AND at a super low price--ONLY $89.95! http://orders.xoom.com/zvc/emzvc921 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Mon Nov 09 18:05:30 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--625-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 09 19:27:15 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:27:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:27:14 0000 Received: (qmail 23459 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 1998 19:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20149 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1998 19:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb05.swip.net) (193.12.122.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 1998 19:26:37 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup204-3-8.swipnet.se [130.244.204.136]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00352 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:24:10 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: Just-Amiga-Mailinglist Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:05:30 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: [pamiga] G3 processor Boards (fwd) From: Srdan Kvrgic Anyone have some more info on this? http://www.escena.de *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Lau W. Nielsen Written on: 07-Nov-98 *** Begin of forwarded message *** Hello Chris On 05-Nov-98 the earthling Chris thought that all humanoids should know this: > #05-Nov-98# Message from *John Girvin*: > Hi John, > >> Chris [mailto:chris@worldfoundry.demon.co.uk] wrote: >>> My info tells me it's 2xG3, no 68k will be required. It'll be >>> using H&P's 68k emulator for 68k support. That's what I'm told anyway. > Personally I can't wait to see the looks on Phase 5's faces. They've been > saying that they could make a G3 card "any time they wanted" for the last > few months but have been stalling saying there was no application. It > should be interesting to see what they come up with this time.... I think they can indeed make a G3 dual or quad board fairly fast, since they have already done all the hard work. They already have a complete system ready for more CPU's, so that shouldn't pose a big problem. I do however have a few problems with Escena's board (am I the only one who have never heard of that company? And did people really expect me to not have something to say about this board? :-). The first rather big problem is that it is a ZIII board, that means it won't be able to get full access to the hardware. If it was a CPU slot board instead it would. But that would cause problems, since it would be pretty hard to boot without a real 68k, at least without too much hacking. So from that POV it makes sense to make it a ZIII board. The next problem I have with it is that it dosen't have any local diskcontrollers or expansion buses. Everything happens across the ZIII bus. So what we have is a very simple board compared to the PowerUp's. It is bascially just two G3's, a bunch of memory, and a ZIII interface. This means four things: It should be cheaper than the PowerUp's, it should be lightning fast, it should crawl on disk I/O and gfx operations, and it won't be as compatible. The fact that there is a clean PPC system, complete with L2 cache, SDRAM etc., means that the PPC's will be able to run at full speed, as long as they use the local RAM. So this board will be able to render Quake screens at blazing speed. The problem is that you won't be able to take advantage of the high speed, as the ZIII bus limits the gfx speed. Same problem with disk I/O. Compared to this the PowerUp's are much more complex with their 68k/PPC multiprocessing, onboard gfx bus and onboard SCSI controller. So for normal system usage that includes lots of gfx output and disk I/O a PowerUp board will probably have the edge, since it dosen't use the Zorro bus for anything really speedcritical. Add to that that the PowerUp will run any 68k programs without any problems, and that the board has full control over the machine. The Escena board on the other hand will be a killer rendering engine. Just throw all your data etc. into the local RAM and let the PPC's do their job. But don't expect it to have the same general improvements as the PowerUp range. I would say that the PowerUp boards are a much more impressive system due to the way it interfaces to the existing machine and because of the extras it provides. The Escena board OTOH seems more like a PPC reference design glued onto a ZIII board. Regards -- Lau W. Nielsen ICQ:17708169 ICQNick:Monster --«Powered by Amiga»-- ---- ...and todays tagline: The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants; instead of referring to pi as 3.141592653589793 at every appearance, the variable PI can be given that value with a DATA statement and used instead of the longer form of the constant. This also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi change. FORTRAN manual for Xerox computers *** End of forwarded message *** -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss Schizophrenia - the natural multi-tasking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sun Nov 08 10:54:44 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--621-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 10:00:44 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:00:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:00:43 0000 Received: (qmail 16051 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 10:02:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16044 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 10:02:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au) (203.37.241.194) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 10:02:27 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-20.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.37.241.215]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02725 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:04:42 +1100 (EST) From: Colin Wenzel To: Mark Tierno Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 19:54:44 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIO Hot topic! 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Now you can, AND at a super low price--ONLY $89.95! http://orders.xoom.com/zvc/emzvc921 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ck@mystcorp.com Sun Nov 08 14:15:53 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--622-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 13:24:00 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 13:24:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 13:23:59 0000 Received: (qmail 6745 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 13:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 6738 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 13:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 13:22:34 -0000 Received: from (mystcorp.u-net.com) [194.119.133.251] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zcUom-0005gT-00; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:23:48 +0000 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 13:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Disaster Strikes :( From: Conor Kerr Hi, Just a quick note to tell you about the latest from Mystique... http://www.mystcorp.com/update-081198.html All the best... Conor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sun Nov 08 15:27:32 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--623-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 14:28:46 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:28:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:28:45 0000 Received: (qmail 27212 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 14:30:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26975 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 14:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo13.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.3) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 14:29:57 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9PPAa13873 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:27:32 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:27:32 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: DCWILSON99@aol.com In a message dated 11/8/98 08:23:46, ck@mystcorp.com writes: <> all I got from this website was a graphic :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a jump start on your web site? 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Only $29.95! http://orders.xoom.com/tmp/lstmp1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ck@mystcorp.com Sun Nov 08 16:30:02 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--624-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 08 15:34:14 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:34:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:34:13 0000 Received: (qmail 17988 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1998 15:36:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 17974 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1998 15:36:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1998 15:36:08 -0000 Received: from (mystcorp.u-net.com) [194.119.133.221] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zcWnh-00065P-00; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:30:50 +0000 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:30:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: Conor Kerr Hi DCWILSON99@aol.com, > all I got from this website was a graphic :( The site isn't online yet :) There are only two pages, the title page (probably the one you tried?) and the update page: http://www.mystcorp.com/update-081198.html The title page doesn'tlink to this page. 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Only $29.95! http://orders.xoom.com/tmp/lstmp1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Nov 10 18:19:42 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--626-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 10 18:56:29 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:56:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:56:28 0000 Received: (qmail 264 invoked by alias); 10 Nov 1998 18:46:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29208 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1998 18:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb06.swip.net) (193.12.122.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 1998 18:43:20 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup62-2-17.swipnet.se [130.244.62.81]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27403 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:47:02 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: Just-Amiga-Mailinglist Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:19:42 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] [pamiga] Re: IBROWSE: Update status please (fwd) (fwd) From: Srdan Kvrgic *** FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Original author: Roger J. Beaulieu Written on: 09-Nov-98 *** Begin of forwarded message *** Hello, *** Forwarded message, originally written by Stephen Marriott on 09-Nov-98 *** Roy E Brown wrote: : >>> I hesitate to ask, but what is the status of Ibrowse 2.0? : [snip] : > I think Kenneth wanted to know how the development of IB V2 is going. And : > that is something I`d like to know, too! Hopefully it will be released this : > year... : I was talking to someone at HiSoft on the telephone last week (placing an : order) and while I was at it I asked about the release of IBrowse 2.0. I : was informed (and it wasn't by Steve Marriott) that there was no chance of : it appearing this side of Christmas or even soon after. I got the : impression that things are not going as well as we are led to believe. : Any comments Steve? Yep - did u get the name of the person you were speaking to? FYI - there are only two ppl in the office who speak to Omnipresence about the development and distribution of iBrowse - that is me and the manager. FYI - version 2.0 will be out b4 the end of the yr. There has been delay as it took Stefan some time to re-setup everything in the States. -- Stephen Marriott - stevem@hisoft.co.uk HiSOFT SYSTEMS, The Old School, Greenfield, Bedford, MK45 5DE, UK Tel: +44 1525 718181 Fax: +44 1525 713716 http://www.hisoft.co.uk/ http://www.cinema4d.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mailing list address: ibrowse@omnipresence.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Help: majordomo@omnipresence.com Human list maintainer: ibrowse-owner@omnipresence.com IBrowse ftp server: ftp.omnipresence.com:/pub/amiga/ibrowse IBrowse Web server: http://www.omnipresence.com/Ibrowse/ *** End of forwarded message *** -- Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero *Mahalo Nui Loa* from *Hawaii* Roger J. Beaulieu - (2-A3K's) & (1-1200) Mililani, Oahu, Hawaii, USA *Team AMIGA* In the middle of the big Pond *#ICQ:14691050 ICQnick:El^Diablo#* mailto:rogerb@pixi.com *** End of forwarded message *** -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss The bigger a person's head gets, the easier it is to fill their shoes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Mon Nov 09 21:25:13 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--627-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 11 19:01:02 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:01:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:01:02 0000 Received: (qmail 6011 invoked by alias); 11 Nov 1998 19:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4041 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1998 18:58:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 1998 18:58:27 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:59:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.198.47] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:58:59 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:25:13 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: "Chris Seward" Conor Kerr, On 08-Nov-98, you wrote: > Just a quick note to tell you about the latest from Mystique... Just wondering what you do at Mystique? anything amiga related AIO may be interested in? -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ck@mystcorp.com Wed Nov 11 21:45:22 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--628-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 11 21:11:02 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:11:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:11:01 0000 Received: (qmail 12694 invoked by alias); 11 Nov 1998 21:10:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8507 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1998 21:06:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 1998 21:06:37 -0000 Received: from (mystcorp.u-net.com) [194.119.133.254] by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zdhTp-0004Wi-00; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:07:09 +0000 From: Conor Kerr To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:45:22 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mystique Corporation International Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: Conor Kerr Hi Chris, > Just wondering what you do at Mystique? anything amiga > related AIO may be interested in? I thought AIO was supposed to be informed :) We're the leading developers of children's software for the Amiga. Full details about our product and the plan for the coming year for our Made For KiDS campaign will be made available when the new website is released so keep them eyes open ;) All the best... *Conor Kerr* MD, Mystique Corporation International Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Wed Nov 11 23:42:53 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--629-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 11 22:57:20 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:57:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:57:19 0000 Received: (qmail 25771 invoked by alias); 11 Nov 1998 22:51:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17995 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1998 22:43:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 1998 22:43:39 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@ppp374.enterprise.net [194.72.196.120]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16795 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:43:57 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:42:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199811071322.FAA16225@lists1.best.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] *FORWADED* calling all good programmers.... From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > Btw, there is a portable PC-emulator available, anyone? It runs in X but I > guess it would be easy to port it to use Intuition. I just can't recall > the damn emulator name.. A quick look through EmuNews links and I think I've found it: http://www.bochs.com/ "What is Bochs? Bochs is a portable x86 PC emulation software package that emulates enough of the x86 CPU, related AT hardware, and BIOS to run DOS, Windows '95, Minix 2.0, and other OS's, all on your workstation." So, what are we waiting for? Every one should now go straight to there homepage and ask for an Amiga version, or volenteer to compile one yourself! It could at least be a stop-gap until PPC versions of PC-Task and PCx, maybe even better, although its only 386 emulator w/ VGA. There is also Softwindows and RealPC (PowerMac versions) which probably /could/ be ported to Amiga, but I doubt they would. (Could be used with a PPC PowerMac emulator though) If everybody emails them asking for an Amiga Version, then who knows ;) http://www.insignia.com/SoftWindows/ So, any good programers want to have a go at porting Bochs? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.vgr.com/ppc powerup-request@lists.best.com w/'unsubscribe' to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From hotcakes@abacus.net.au Thu Nov 12 10:30:04 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--630-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 12 04:31:52 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:31:52 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:31:51 0000 Received: (qmail 27346 invoked by alias); 12 Nov 1998 04:31:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 31439 invoked from network); 12 Nov 1998 03:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a1bbs.abacus.net.au) (203.32.176.30) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 1998 03:59:46 -0000 Received: from [203.32.176.34] by abacus.net.au id 73cc0.wrk; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:30:24 EDT From: Toby Zuijdveld To: Conor Kerr Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:30:04 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Res=A1stance?= Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: Toby Zuijdveld On 12-Nov-98, Conor Kerr set out across the seas with this message: ->> Just wondering what you do at Mystique? anything amiga ->> related AIO may be interested in? ->I thought AIO was supposed to be informed :) Yeh, but they still have to get their original sources from somewhere ;] -- *************** *** CAT TAG *** OS/2: a better Windows than Windows... but still a *************** Windows. _ _ _ __ _ _ /\_ _ _________\/_________/\___ -- Toby Zuijdveld -- \____ ¬\/. ______ __/ | ) _/\____ \/ \ -EMail : mailto:hotcakes@abacus.net.au- |! | ¬\ \ \\ \\ - HTTP : http://abacus.net.au/hotcakes |___| //_____ //___ // [ Last updated : 06·11·98 ] !___/ \/DTN.\/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Nov 21 13:57:45 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--657-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 14:54:53 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:54:53 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:54:52 0000 Received: (qmail 7232 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 14:57:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 7066 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 14:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 14:57:19 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-028-0187.claranet.co.uk [195.8.86.187]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13584 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:49:53 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:57:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <911621250.18911@onelist.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 19-Nov-98, Tim Corringha wrote: >> And is it me or has there been a lack of postings recently? > >It's not just list - most Amiga mail lists are getting quieter by >the week :( I think that now a lot more people are accepting that the Classic is pretty much a very dead end. AI don't care any more, development is slowly grinding to a halt, and there isn't really much hope for revival. Personally I'll stick with my Amiga until something truely better turns up. I'll probably install Linux on both my machines, run my modem through the PC running Linux (because it's got a faster serial port than my miggy), and run my miggy through that... Anyone want to provide some tips on how to actually impliment that? :) Regards Tom -- *AmiSITE: http://surf.to/amisite* A1200T 040@25 603p@166 32MB V90 850MB+2.5GB HD 24X CDRom P200MMX 64MB 4.3GB HD 32X CDRom ICQ:17701673 tom_hurst@geocities.com IRC:"Freaky" -- Windows 3.11 took us to the edge of the cliff. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Sat Nov 14 16:39:24 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--641-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 15 14:52:41 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:52:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:52:40 0000 Received: (qmail 31481 invoked by alias); 15 Nov 1998 14:48:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 31475 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1998 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb07.swip.net) (193.12.122.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 1998 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup237-3-22.swipnet.se [130.244.237.150]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06997 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:52:27 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:39:24 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Andrew On 14-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > Hi Everybody, >> Everyone: goto the aminet and download fastboot.lha NOW!!! >> It is amazing!!! It cut my boot time from 50 seconds down to 5 !! and >> it worked first time. I urge you to all at least try it, it's the best >> piece of software I have > Ok, I've had a look at the contents of fastboot archive, and it seems > to be a simple extention of the action replay's save state command. > I will definatly NOT be using this on my amiga, I know how unstable > these hacks can be. If it's worth anything to you, I've used it for the past one and a half years with no problems what so ever! > The author even give a riminder to refresh your > memory grab every time you add/remove new hardware (like if I disable my > PPC board with "2") or your harddrive'll get trashed. Could, possibly, in the worst event scenario, trash your HD. But the chances of this happening are as big as you winning the lottery. =) The worst thing that has ever happened to me is that a system partion went invalidated and at the time I was doing some pretty serious hacking inside my computer. Anyway, It's not documented, but if Fastboot detects something different it doesn't boot the computer at all, it just stands there. If this happens, you just Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga it and hold down any mouse button to start WB as if though FastBoot never was installed. What can I say, the program rules! > Anyway, my bootup time is only 30 seconds. I just figured out a way to squeeze another 3 seconds of my boot-up. Now it only takes 3 seconds to boot my amiga. > If you have a stable amiga config, and arn't likely to change > anything on the fly, then it /should/ be safe to use this. One Warning though. Do not attempt to install this program if you don't know your way around DOS-scripts. And don't be calling a friend that knows all about Amiga to install it for you, you're gonna need him at your house a lot the first week. And one more last thing. Don't put "execut s:grab.com", or whatever you choose to name the command it uses to grab memmory, in startup-sequence. Execute it from the menu "Workbench/Execute command" instead after all disk activity has stopped and you should have no probs! -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Fri Nov 13 20:22:36 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--631-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 13 21:40:01 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:40:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:40:00 0000 Received: (qmail 29861 invoked by alias); 13 Nov 1998 21:39:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28752 invoked from network); 13 Nov 1998 21:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.27) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 1998 21:38:43 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zeQvh-0003zy-00; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:38:57 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: Just Amiga Mailing List Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:22:36 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Matthew O'Neill Lo there, I know you'll probably be annoyed at the cross post, but It's worth it. Everyone: goto the aminet and download fastboot.lha NOW!!! It is amazing!!! It cut my boot time from 50 seconds down to 5 !! and it worked first time. I urge you to all at least try it, it's the best piece of software I have If you need help, just ask :)) again, sorry 'bout the cross post -- How many Bill Gates' does it take to change a light bulb? One, he just puts the light bulb in and lets the world revolve around him. Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Nov 14 00:04:15 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--632-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 13 23:06:14 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:06:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:06:13 0000 Received: (qmail 26306 invoked by alias); 13 Nov 1998 23:05:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25904 invoked from network); 13 Nov 1998 23:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 1998 23:05:08 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@ppp268.enterprise.net [194.72.196.14]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21340 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:05:26 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:04:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Andrew Crowe Hi Everybody, > I know you'll probably be annoyed at the cross post, but It's worth > it. > Everyone: goto the aminet and download fastboot.lha NOW!!! > It is amazing!!! It cut my boot time from 50 seconds down to 5 !! and > it worked first time. I urge you to all at least try it, it's the best > piece of software I have Where? I can't see it on any of the Aminet Recent lists. Anyway, what exactly does it do you your amiga to make it boot so fast? See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From morden@mcmail.com Sat Nov 07 21:38:03 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--618-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 07 20:38:28 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:38:28 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:38:27 0000 Received: (qmail 31712 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 1998 20:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 31681 invoked from network); 7 Nov 1998 20:37:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cwcom.net) (195.44.0.153) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 1998 20:37:05 -0000 Received: from mcmail.com ([195.44.21.175]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:35:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3644AFAB.67475D26@mcmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:38:03 +0000 From: Stuart Luscombe Organization: Gaming Freaks! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: just-amiga@onelist.com, "Chris Seward" References: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIO Hot topic! From: Stuart Luscombe Chris Seward wrote: > > From: "Chris Seward" > > Any comments, ideas on the following question for AIO? > > "do you think the Amiga can take over the richest man > in the world, B*ll G*tes?" Not without Linux it can't. Linux and OSS has got Bill running scared at the moment! :P - Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a jump start on your web site? XOOM.com Web Site Templates 250 helps you get your site up and running in no time. Only $29.95! http://orders.xoom.com/tmp/lstmp1105/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ragnar.fyri@daf.no Sat Nov 14 00:18:36 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--633-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 13 23:21:46 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:21:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:21:46 0000 Received: (qmail 5682 invoked by alias); 13 Nov 1998 23:23:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3790 invoked from network); 13 Nov 1998 23:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO login-2.eunet.no) (193.71.71.239) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 1998 23:22:55 -0000 Received: from daf.no (rfyri@pc1.pm2-5.eunet.no [193.71.251.64]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.9.0/8.9.0/GN) with SMTP id AAA01014 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:20:17 +0100 (CET) From: Ragnar Fyri To: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:18:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Ragnar Fyri 'Twas the night before 14-Nov-98, and all through the net, not a creature was stirring, except for Andrew, who whispered ominously: > - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - >I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World >War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. >-- Albert Einstein The next war will determine not what is right but what is left --unknown -- We'll be right back after these messages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Wed Nov 25 21:40:19 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--699-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 00:05:03 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:05:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:05:02 0000 Received: (qmail 9007 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 00:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 8943 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 00:08:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 00:08:05 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.197.89] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:04:50 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:40:19 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] A step closer to free UK local calls....? From: "Chris Seward" Dear ALL UK JA amiga users. Phone bills are a pain aren't they, 'specially big internet bills that you get from spending to much time on the web or chatting on irc etc. Wouldn't it be good to have free evening local calls and free local weekend calls? America and Japan have had them for years and we have been charged great amounts of money. Help get free calls by visiting :- *www.unmetered.org* and sign your name up in the petition for free local calls. Please spread this message far and wide. P.s. Does anyone know the address for Oftel, the government organisation that regulates telephone companys, the b'stards that won't let us have free calls, I would be interested in writing to them if anyones got the address. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sat Nov 14 00:33:07 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--634-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 13 23:35:41 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:35:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:35:41 0000 Received: (qmail 28359 invoked by alias); 13 Nov 1998 23:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27498 invoked from network); 13 Nov 1998 23:37:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enterprise.net) (194.72.192.18) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 1998 23:37:58 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@ppp268.enterprise.net [194.72.196.14]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA27593 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:34:35 GMT From: Andrew Crowe To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Manta Soft Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: fastboot, get it now, I mean it! From: Andrew Crowe Hi Andrew, >>> - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - >>> I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World >>> War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. >>> -- Albert Einstein >> The next war will determine >> not what is right >> but what is left >> --unknown I'll add it to my taglists. See ya. -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing Http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/ ICQ: 21829166 - --------------------- Quote of the day: ---------------------- - I no longer fear Hell, for I have used Windows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From aj.cashmore@ukonline.co.uk Sat Nov 21 20:26:34 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--665-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 21 19:43:50 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:43:50 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:43:49 0000 Received: (qmail 22860 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 1998 19:48:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 22849 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:48:14 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk ([195.40.112.13] ident=qmailr) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #3) id 0zhIxz-0006bo-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:45:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 15411 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1998 19:59:18 -0000 Received: from tnt-6-180.easynet.co.uk (HELO ukonline.co.uk) (aj.cashmore@195.40.201.180) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Nov 1998 19:59:18 -0000 From: Andrew Cashmore To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:26:34 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Saving dirs? From: Andrew Cashmore Hello Chris On 21-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: "Chris Seward" > > Does anyone know how you can save the list of files when you > 'list' in cli? I need to save out the list of files with the sizes > so is it possible to save the list? otherwise it just goes shooting > off and you can't save it. Any ideas? You mean like: list dh1: >ram:listfile ? Yours, Andy. -- If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? *Team AMIGA* A1200T 040/25 603/166 2MB/32MB 1.6GB HD + 24x CD + ZIP http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 14 00:13:27 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--635-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 14 00:14:09 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:14:09 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:14:08 0000 Received: (qmail 1299 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 1998 00:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 794 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1998 00:16:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 1998 00:16:00 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:13:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.174] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:13:35 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Disaster Strikes :( From: "Chris Seward" Hi > I thought AIO was supposed to be informed :) Ok, ok i'm at fault :) all this news buzzing around I need reminding now and again :) Thanks for letting me know BTW. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Sun Nov 22 23:42:44 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--676-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sun Nov 22 22:43:06 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:43:06 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:43:05 0000 Received: (qmail 24887 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 1998 22:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24852 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1998 22:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 1998 22:42:12 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zhiAL-000194-00; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:39:37 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Sun, 22 Nov 98 22:42:44 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Sun, 22 Nov 98 21:51:42) Lines: 20 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi Bill > From: Bill Eaves > > Hello, > > Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU > mailing list seems to have disappeared? > Yes, I believe that Neil is considering setting up a replacement on a different server as the current "problems" seem to be related to the current provider. I've no idea what's causing the problem though. Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From nbent@netcomuk.co.uk Mon Nov 23 11:52:07 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--677-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 10:54:44 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:54:44 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:54:43 0000 Received: (qmail 23166 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 10:57:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 23155 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 10:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO camelot.netcom.net.uk) (194.42.225.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 10:57:37 -0000 Received: from netcomuk.co.uk (NigelBent@dialup-03-02.netcomuk.co.uk [194.42.228.194]) by camelot.netcom.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00221 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:54:33 GMT From: Nigel Bent To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:52:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Nigel Bent Hello Bill On 22-Nov-98, you wrote: > Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU > mailing list seems to have disappeared? Yeah, me too. It seemed to go quieter than normal a few days ago, and now it's completely gone :( Don't suppose there's much point in looking at the status on the CU website any more :( Anyone mailed Eden Akhavi yet? Regards -- Nigel Bent Powered by Amiga Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk Mon Nov 23 12:26:43 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--678-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 11:29:45 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:29:45 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:29:44 0000 Received: (qmail 22366 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 11:25:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 22355 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 11:25:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tantalum) (194.73.73.80) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 11:25:30 -0000 Received: from mail-3 [195.99.53.239] by tantalum with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0zhuA6-0005D2-00; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:28:10 +0000 From: "Bill Eaves" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:26:43 -0000 Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: "Bill Eaves" Nigel Bent wrote: > Don't suppose there's much point in looking at the status on the CU > website any more :( None whatsoever. I tried that yesterday, it is way out of date. Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From axis@distrinet.com.uy Mon Nov 23 18:26:33 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--679-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 17:24:48 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:24:48 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:24:47 0000 Received: (qmail 18133 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 17:20:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18059 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 17:20:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zofanor.distrinet.com.uy) (207.3.114.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 17:20:06 -0000 Received: from [207.50.244.67] (r244-67.adinet.com.uy [207.50.244.67]) by zofanor.distrinet.com.uy with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id WMDNLK5C; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:22:04 -0300 X-Sender: axis@mailer.distrinet.com.uy Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:26:33 -0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [just-amiga] MP3 on the Amiga From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Help ! I need to find out about MP3 and what is the best solution for the Amiga. If someone has ever worked with it please tell me! TIA Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Mon Nov 23 17:50:31 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--680-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 18:21:59 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:21:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:21:59 0000 Received: (qmail 11950 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 18:21:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11798 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 18:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb05.swip.net) (193.12.122.209) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 18:21:07 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup200-3-51.swipnet.se [130.244.200.179]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18729 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:21:35 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:50:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bug in ReadArgs() ? From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Chris On 21-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: "Chris Seward" > On 19-Nov-98, you wrote: >> Well, Pure-amiga still averages about 100/day , and the STRICQ list has > gone >> up to roughly 40.. > We'd be lucky to get 4 a day, what happend to the hugh amount that > used to happen. Whats gone wrong? any ides suggestions. There's heeps more OT on Pure-amiga for one thing (during the summers there were rougly 300 mails/day...) -- /ZoomiX ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss ZMODEM has bigger bits, softer blocks, and tighter ASCII. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tom.hurst@clara.net Mon Nov 23 21:29:03 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--681-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 20:37:17 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:37:17 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:37:16 0000 Received: (qmail 1762 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 20:39:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1597 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 20:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 20:39:06 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-1220.claranet.co.uk [195.8.77.150]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16030 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:33:58 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:29:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 22-Nov-98, Tim Corringham wrote: > Hi Bill > >> From: Bill Eaves >> >> Hello, >> >> Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU >> mailing list seems to have disappeared? >> > Yes, I believe that Neil is considering setting up a replacement on > a different server as the current "problems" seem to be related to > the current provider. I've no idea what's causing the problem though. FCI - the hosts of the amiga.co.uk domain have lost all their connectivity. I hate to think how many 'mails will be waiting for me once they get it back :) And this 'different server' isn't a million miles from this list ;) Regards Tom -- *AmiSITE: http://surf.to/amisite* A1200T 040@25 603p@166 32MB V90 850MB+2.5GB HD 24X CDRom P200MMX 64MB 4.3GB HD 32X CDRom ICQ:17701673 tom_hurst@geocities.com IRC:"Freaky" -- How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb? One, but if he changes it, the whole building will probably fall down. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From aMIGA_dUDE@aSSIGN.u-nET.cOM Mon Nov 23 19:52:14 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--682-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Mon Nov 23 20:59:43 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:59:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:59:42 0000 Received: (qmail 1555 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 1998 21:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1464 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1998 21:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1998 21:01:55 -0000 Received: from (p83.nas1.is5.u-net.net) [195.102.200.83] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zi2zK-0001aI-00; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:53:38 +0000 From: "Andrew" Organization: Author of ProPassWord , AmiVisual , IRCGamer Date: 23 Nov 98 18:52:14 +0000 X-Face: (_q}6lZ;BQops9`}X~b69)+|*BiJl_ur1MVm@7?1L%b8~r^vjuPaA+*y_KvLLQF.~mMmTO5@)C56oH;@6Zw(D}.-Fw!a+i58GajsiC$/C.!.zW,hx Message-Id: To: Just-Amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0a Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Saving dirs? From: "Andrew" >Does anyone know how you can save the list of files when you >'list' in cli? I need to save out the list of files with the sizes >so is it possible to save the list? otherwise it just goes shooting >off and you can't save it. Any ideas? To easy to be true. List *Device*: all >*Where to* If you wanted to do list of HD0: and save the report to Ram:ListOfHD0 List HD0: all >Ram:ListOfHD0 But it always is to easy to be true when you know! -- There is know bug old version of ProPassWork on the Aminet The new version has posted to Aminet. Old, Short: PPW is a FOF securty System 0.16b (ENGLISH ONLY) New, Short: PPW is a FOF securty System 0.16b (Rev 2) THK to ever one who e-mailed me -- \\//Amiga\\// Team AMIGA -- 603e+ 233/040 32 Meg, Zip, CD-Rom. Kickstart 3.1 PortJnr, Pace56 External Voice. ISP http://www.wirenet.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 23 19:18:38 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--683-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 24 18:07:43 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:07:43 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:07:42 0000 Received: (qmail 12030 invoked by alias); 24 Nov 1998 18:03:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11944 invoked from network); 24 Nov 1998 18:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 1998 18:03:10 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.053 #1) id 0ziMrp-0005K4-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:07:13 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:18:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. gets dragged on once more..... >> Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU >> mailing list seems to have disappeared? > Probably disappeared when the magazine did? hell no! It's been going on for months, and still will -- What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Nov 24 19:30:31 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--684-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 24 19:38:10 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:38:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:38:09 0000 Received: (qmail 29570 invoked by alias); 24 Nov 1998 19:37:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29556 invoked from network); 24 Nov 1998 19:37:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb07.swip.net) (193.12.122.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 1998 19:37:54 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup242-3-47.swipnet.se [130.244.242.175]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19142 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:37:57 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:30:31 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36581770.MD-0.196.scubidu@netcomuk.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPEG AUDIO ENCODERS ??? From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello SCUBIDU On 22-Nov-98, you wrote: > Hi, all, > Does anyone know the whereabouts of an Mpeg audio > encoder, so as to make My own tracks? Pegase.lha mus/misc 165K 7+Fast MPEG audio encoder (68k+FPU) Two-three hours for an MPEG-III track on my rather slow 030@40/882@40 -- /ZoomiX < mailto:skvr@swipnet.se > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss If a fly had no wings, would you call him a walk? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From skvr@swipnet.se Tue Nov 24 19:34:09 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--685-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Tue Nov 24 19:38:14 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:38:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:38:13 0000 Received: (qmail 18251 invoked by alias); 24 Nov 1998 19:43:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18244 invoked from network); 24 Nov 1998 19:43:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mb07.swip.net) (193.12.122.211) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 1998 19:43:15 -0000 Received: from swipnet.se (dialup242-3-47.swipnet.se [130.244.242.175]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19187 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:37:59 +0100 (MET) From: Srdan Kvrgic To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:34:09 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Who wants to port a full 386 emu. (in C) that runs win95? From: Srdan Kvrgic Hello Andrew On 23-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: Andrew Crowe > Hi Everybody, > C'mon guys, I have the source of a full 386 emulator in C. It can run > win95 etc. On a 386? The speed must be blindening. ;-) Sorry I can't help though... -- /ZoomiX < mailto:skvr@swipnet.se > ICQ:13499516 | t e a m | People think the Year ~~~~~~~~ ZoomiX's WorkShop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+--+ *A* +--+ 2000 problem refers A1200/030/40 - 882/40; - 14 Meg | *M* | to time. It is going to MicroCom 33.6 - 1.7 Gig - 4 x 200W | *I* | refer to a new Amiga Mitsumi 24x CD-ROM - Cannon BJC250 | *G* | that kicks PCs all over http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/ | *A* | the face of the new ~~~~~~ Amiga Shall Overcome.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ +---+ millenium -- Fleecy Moss A day without sunshine is like, you know, night. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk Tue Nov 24 20:42:37 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--686-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 10:43:03 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:43:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:43:01 0000 Received: (qmail 27309 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 10:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27301 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 10:42:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 10:42:30 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bill.eaves@man-004.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.41.4]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12373 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:42:55 GMT From: Bill Eaves To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:42:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Bill Eaves Hello Matthew >> Probably disappeared when the magazine did? > hell no! It's been going on for months, and still will It was going quite well. Too well in fact ;-) I asked Neil Bothwick today and he confirmed the problem with the FCI feed at the moment. The list will be back as soon as the problem has bee fixed. Regards, Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From sami.naatanen@dlc.fi Wed Nov 25 16:28:22 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--687-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 15:29:59 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:29:59 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:29:59 0000 Received: (qmail 12248 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 15:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12153 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 15:29:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vlad.sci.fi) (195.74.0.49) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 15:29:19 -0000 Received: from elf.dlc.fi (elf [195.218.64.6]) by vlad.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA05348 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:29:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from dlc.fi (voltage@MMMCCCVI.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.47.6]) by elf.dlc.fi (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26451 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:29:41 +0200 (EET) From: Sami =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E4=E4t=E4nen?= To: Srdan Kvrgic Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:28:22 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Diverse Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MPEG AUDIO ENCODERS ??? From: Sami =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E4=E4t=E4nen?= On 24-Nov-98, Srdan Kvrgic wrote: > From: Srdan Kvrgic > Hello SCUBIDU > On 22-Nov-98, you wrote: > > Hi, all, > > Does anyone know the whereabouts of an Mpeg audio > > encoder, so as to make My own tracks? > Pegase.lha mus/misc 165K 7+Fast MPEG audio encoder (68k+FPU) > Two-three hours for an MPEG-III track on my rather slow 030@40/882@40 Well there are quite litle difference in the sizes of MPEG-II compared to MPEG-III but the CPU power required for the layer 3 decoding is bigger than the size difference. So if you have slower machine I recommend using layer 2 MPEGs. Oh and my machine will do layer 2 mpeg in the time of 3*n where the n is the length of the song. :) So its much faster than anything else. Oh and it supports batching so just read CD to HD and let it roll. :) _____________________________________________________ | | | Sami Näätänen A1260 20MB 2.5GB 2X 56k BJC-4100 | | EMail: sami.naatanen@dlc.fi | | | `-----------------------------------------------------' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk Wed Nov 25 16:42:17 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--688-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 20:00:18 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:00:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:00:17 0000 Received: (qmail 17665 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 20:00:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 17612 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 20:00:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satsuma.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.44) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 20:00:00 -0000 Received: from hertz.ukonline.co.uk ([195.40.112.13] ident=qmailr) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #3) id 0zil8h-0006F3-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:02:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 7160 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 20:16:05 -0000 Received: from tnt-6-164.easynet.co.uk (andy.k2@195.40.201.164) by hertz.ukonline.co.uk with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 20:16:05 -0000 From: "Andy Kinsella" Organization: Blurred Vision Date: 25 Nov 98 15:42:17 +0000 Message-Id: <365C2559.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] MD02 0.198 From: "Andy Kinsella" Greetings; I'd normally throw my technical questions into the cu-list, but it seems to be buggered atm 8) Can I add multiple filters to a folder in 0.198 of Microdot? I want to filter a folder so that two pepes mail gets shuffles into it. currently it's filtered with "#?@q#?, but one of the guys keeps pissing around with his email address Grrr...(you know who you are!) Anyways, I thought something like "#?(#?|ross#?|#?oondy#?)" would do the business, but when I did that, my md kept jamming on random mails, prolly wondering where to put stuff...So I changed it back to what it was, and all is well, apart from one geezers mail not landing in the right box. Any clues? An update is in order meethinks 8) -- Regards, Andy. *F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From axis@distrinet.com.uy Wed Nov 25 21:41:34 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--689-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 20:39:41 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:39:41 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:39:40 0000 Received: (qmail 31522 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 20:44:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 31418 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 20:44:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zofanor.distrinet.com.uy) (207.3.114.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 20:44:30 -0000 Received: from [207.50.244.67] (r244-155.adinet.com.uy [207.50.244.155]) by zofanor.distrinet.com.uy with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id WMDNLNA0; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:36:16 -0300 X-Sender: axis@mailer.distrinet.com.uy Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <365C2559.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:41:34 -0300 To: just-amiga@onelist.com From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] EGS Spectrum From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" Hi, I just got an old GVP EGS Spectrum 24 bit board, but with no manuals, so I am trying to figure out where the connectors go, it comes with a VGA cable and the board has to VGA connectors, I suppose one is for the monitor and the other don´t know ? maybe to the Amiga RGB ? I don´t want to make a mess so if anyone knows please help me also anything related to this board will be greatly appreciated!!! TIA, Regards, Rick *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald AXIS Computers - We are Amiga Uruguay Hocquart 2018 Montevideo 11200 Uruguay Phone 00598 2 402 76 55 FAX 00598 2 402 76 55 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From lairfight@softhome.net Wed Nov 25 21:23:15 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--690-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 22:10:46 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:10:46 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:10:46 0000 Received: (qmail 15678 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 22:15:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 15627 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 22:15:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO softhome.net) (204.144.231.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 22:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 13612 invoked by uid 417); 25 Nov 1998 22:26:33 -0000 Received: from t2o68p18.telia.com (HELO softhome.net) (62.20.138.138) by smtp.softhome.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 22:26:33 -0000 From: Linus Akesson To: Andy Kinsella Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:23:15 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <365C2559.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MD02 0.198 From: Linus Akesson That wildcard would match everything, since it's "#?(#?|...|...)". Linus On 25-Nov-98, Andy Kinsella wrote: >From: "Andy Kinsella" >Greetings; >I'd normally throw my technical questions into the cu-list, but it >seems to be buggered atm 8) >Can I add multiple filters to a folder in 0.198 of Microdot? I want to >filter a folder so that two pepes mail gets shuffles into it. >currently it's filtered with "#?@q#?, but one of the guys keeps >pissing around with his email address Grrr...(you know who you are!) >Anyways, I thought something like "#?(#?|ross#?|#?oondy#?)" would do >the business, but when I did that, my md kept jamming on random mails, >prolly wondering where to put stuff...So I changed it back to what it >was, and all is well, apart from one geezers mail not landing in the >right box. >Any clues? An update is in order meethinks 8) >-- >Regards, >Andy. > > >*F U B A R* @ http://www.q-soft.demon.co.uk >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm .- Linus Akesson `--- lairfight@softhome.net -+- http://fly.to/linus.world Constants aren't; Variables don't. --------> MrCookie v1.1 <--------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tim@ramjam.u-net.com Thu Nov 26 00:30:35 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--691-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Wed Nov 25 23:30:56 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:30:56 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:30:55 0000 Received: (qmail 9563 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 1998 23:33:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9511 invoked from network); 25 Nov 1998 23:33:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1b.u-net.net) (195.102.240.137) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 1998 23:33:46 -0000 Received: from ramjam.u-net.com [194.119.178.106] by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zioLG-0002WP-00; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:27:27 +0000 From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) X-SMTP-Client: Amiga SMTPclient 0.1 by Ramjam Consultants Ltd. Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 23:30:35 To: just-amiga@onelist.com In-Reply-To: (from just-amiga@onelist.com) (on Wed, 25 Nov 98 17:41:34) Lines: 25 X-Mailer: ADMail 1.7 Copyright 1995 S.T.Brown Message-Id: Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: EGS Spectrum From: tim@ramjam.u-net.com (Tim Corringham) Hi . > From: "Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald" > > Hi, > > I just got an old GVP EGS Spectrum 24 bit board, but with no > manuals, so I am trying to figure out where the connectors go, it comes > with a VGA cable and the board has to VGA connectors, I suppose one is for > the monitor and the other don´t know ? maybe to the Amiga RGB ? I don´t > want to make a mess so if anyone knows please help me also anything related > to this board will be greatly appreciated!!! > The DB9 goes to the Amiga RGB, and the HD15 is a VGA style monitor connector. The DB9 allows Amiga display modes to be passed through to the monitor (assuming it will work with whatever Amiga mode you're using) without swapping cables. Tim -- ====================================================================== Tim Corringham e-mail: tim@ramjam.u-net.com Ramjam Consultants Ltd tel: +44 (0)118 946 5940 Reading, England fax: +44 (0)118 946 5941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bill.eaves@zetnet.co.uk Wed Nov 25 22:51:12 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--692-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 26 10:13:13 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:13:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:13:13 0000 Received: (qmail 11765 invoked by alias); 26 Nov 1998 10:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11635 invoked from network); 26 Nov 1998 10:18:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO irwell.zetnet.co.uk) (194.247.47.48) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 1998 10:18:34 -0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bill.eaves@man-152.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.193]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21362 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:13:04 GMT From: Bill Eaves To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: CU Amiga Mailing List. From: Bill Eaves Hello Ragnar o.uk> >> Sorry to be slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the CU >> mailing list seems to have disappeared? > Probably disappeared when the magazine did? It seems not :-) An email from Andrew korn, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I would like to invite you to join the cu-list mailing list. The description of this mailing list is: The current incarnation of CU-list, the CU Amiga magazine mailing list. Of course there is no CU-Amiga magazine anymore, but CU-List remains a meeting place for ex readers of CU to shoot the breeze with each other and various ex CU-Amiga staff. There will also be some interesting hints and announcements... ;^) You can join this list by going to the following web page: #http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/cu-list# If you do not wish to join this list, please ignore this message. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The mailing list address has just changed after recent problems with the last server, that is all :-) Regards, Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 26 17:48:02 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--693-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Thu Nov 26 18:09:36 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:09:36 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:09:35 0000 Received: (qmail 20945 invoked by alias); 26 Nov 1998 18:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20905 invoked from network); 26 Nov 1998 18:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.41) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 1998 18:05:12 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.053 #1) id 0zj5r1-0001Kr-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:09:23 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <365C2559.MD-0.198.andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: MD02 0.198 From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] MD02 0.198 gets dragged on once more..... > Can I add multiple filters to a folder in 0.198 of Microdot? I want to > filter a folder so that two pepes mail gets shuffles into it. > currently it's filtered with "#?@q#?, but one of the guys keeps > pissing around with his email address Grrr...(you know who you are!) IIRC you just put a comma (,) between the addresses. eg. bill@gates.net, mr@big.man.com -- Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From drstrange@usa.net Fri Nov 27 07:09:23 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--694-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 27 07:11:07 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 07:11:08 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 07:11:07 0000 Received: (qmail 3913 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 1998 07:10:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 3883 invoked from network); 27 Nov 1998 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.jps.net) (209.63.224.236) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 1998 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-201.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.201]) by smtp1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA29046 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:10:33 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: Amiga Info Online Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:09:23 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] C question From: Mark Tierno SAS/C C/C++ question here. Is there a SAS/C or DOS function that allows you toc ount the number of lines in a file (ie: number of carriage returns)? If so, is there also another function that will allow you to start reading from a specified line number (instead of byte count) of a file? If so, it's make a little program I have in mind a bit easier. Thanx in advance. -DrStrange Later. -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Nov 27 15:53:53 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--695-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 27 14:55:15 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:55:15 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:55:15 0000 Received: (qmail 9234 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 1998 14:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9181 invoked from network); 27 Nov 1998 14:58:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 1998 14:58:20 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09434 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-tnt-21.digital.net [208.14.41.21]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25300 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Mark Tierno Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: C question From: Ken >SAS/C C/C++ question here. >Is there a SAS/C or DOS function that allows you toc ount the number of >lines in a file (ie: number of carriage returns)? If so, is there also >another function that will allow you to start reading from a specified line >number (instead of byte count) of a file? If so, it's make a little >program I have in mind a bit easier. SNIPPETS is distributed through the FidoNet Programmer's Distribution Network and via the Internet. Starting with the December 1992 version, SNIPPETS is distributed in two files: SNIPdddd.xxx is the full SNIPPETS collection. SNPDdddd.xxx contains only the files changes since the last release. FidoNet locations to get SNIPPETS (for FidoNet file requests, the magic names "SNIPPETS" and "SNIPDIFF" may he used to obtain the latest versions from many BBS's): 1:106/2000 - my "home" BBS, Comm Port One, (713) 980-9671 *** 1:2320/38 - home of FidoNet Programmer's Distribution Network (PDN) 1:11/70 Other PDN sites Internet locations to get SNIPPETS via anonymous ftp: snippets.org /pub/snippets (This is the official SNIPPETS ftp distribution site) juge.com /file/c connectn.acs.niu.edu ~/C ftp.funet.fi /pub/msdos/Simtel/c (Europe) ftp.microdot.com.au /pub/snippets (Australia) ftp.simtel.net /pub/simtelnet/msdos/c (also Simtel CD-ROM) World-Wide Web sites http://www.snippets.org (This is the official SNIPPETS web site home page) http://www.strangecreations.com/strange/library/snippets.htm http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/simtel-msdos/c/ (Europe) Places that may also have SNIPPETS: Bix page 1445 in the programming RT Compuserve GEnie America Online numerous BBS's around the world ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From cbminfo@digital.net Fri Nov 27 17:45:21 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--696-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Fri Nov 27 16:46:49 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:46:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:46:48 0000 Received: (qmail 11006 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 1998 16:46:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10944 invoked from network); 27 Nov 1998 16:46:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.digital.net) (206.228.237.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 1998 16:46:37 -0000 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by smtp.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12241 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from digital.net (cbminfo@max-roc2-77.digital.net [204.215.229.77]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA13702 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:46:32 -0500 (EST) From: Ken To: Just amiga Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:45:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] rkm's From: Ken booksamillion just put up a web site, thought this might be of interest. 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Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From oliver.roberts@iname.com Sat Nov 28 01:30:02 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--700-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 00:39:51 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:39:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:39:51 0000 Received: (qmail 4548 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 00:42:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4492 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 00:42:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.210) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 00:42:54 -0000 Received: from modem-90.cesium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.27.90] ident=oliver) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05iplimit-2 #5) id 0zjYQD-0001Cc-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:39:38 +0000 Date: 28 Nov 98 00:30:02 +0000 From: "Oliver Roberts" To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1297.636T141T302085@iname.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: UK FREE INTERNET... From: "Oliver Roberts" On 25-Nov-98 20:35:14, Chris Seward wrote: > Right, for those of you who havn't heard of this yet i'm just letting > you know the basics. In the UK you can now get a free internet > account. How it works... > > Goto Dixons and ask for there free internet package You do not need this at all! > Goto a PC owning friend and setup the software, login etc. Nor this. The signup procedure can be completed on an Amiga, with Miami or whatever. I won't bother repeating the instructions here, so take a look at: http://www.amiga.de/diary/1998/981118.html Simple enough. Worked fine for me. > Simple, wondering how they make thier money? the helpline is > £1 a minuite, so aslong as you don't phone the helpline its > free internet. They also take a cut from the calls to the 0845 dialup number, seeing as it's provided by one of the new Telco companies (ie not BT). FYI, Freeserve now fully support V.90 and offer 15Mb free webspace (it was 5Mb). -- Oliver Roberts /~\ ___(~)__ __ |~~~/~| oliver.roberts@iname.com Norwich, UK | o | ' |~/. /. | | ~|| | oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk |_|_|_M_|_\_,\__; |_| |_| Amiga Developer |__/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ Amiga Formula One pages ==> http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/AmigaF1.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From drstrange@usa.net Sat Nov 28 07:38:58 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--701-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 07:40:42 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:40:42 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:40:41 0000 Received: (qmail 15129 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 07:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 15121 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 07:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.jps.net) (209.63.224.236) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 07:46:14 -0000 Received: from jps.net (208-237-196-219.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.219]) by smtp1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16721 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tierno To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:38:58 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: C question From: Mark Tierno Hello Ken On 27-Nov-98, Ken wrote: > From: Ken > SNIPPETS is distributed through the FidoNet Programmer's Distribution > Network and via the Internet. WOW! Just had a look at it- that's quite an archive of functions (Jackpot!). I see I'll be looking through it for a while. Thanx. Later. -- Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From iklett@hvymetal.u-net.com Sat Nov 28 07:39:45 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--702-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 07:40:49 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:40:49 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:40:48 0000 Received: (qmail 15306 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 07:46:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15294 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 07:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 07:46:22 -0000 Received: from [195.102.191.188] (helo=hvymetal.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 0zjfu3-0001Wu-00; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:38:56 +0000 From: David Bateman To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:39:45 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A step closer to free UK local calls....? From: David Bateman Hello Chris On 25-Nov-98, you wrote: > From: "Chris Seward" > > Dear ALL UK JA amiga users. > > Phone bills are a pain aren't they, 'specially big internet bills > that you get from spending to much time on the web or chatting > on irc etc. Wouldn't it be good to have free evening local calls > and free local weekend calls? America and Japan have had them > for years and we have been charged great amounts of money. > > Help get free calls by visiting :- > > *www.unmetered.org* > > and sign your name up in the petition for free local calls. > > Please spread this message far and wide. > > P.s. Does anyone know the address for Oftel, the government > organisation that regulates telephone companys, the b'stards > that won't let us have free calls, I would be interested in > writing to them if anyones got the address. > > Kind Regards! oftel are in the phone book, i had to write to them to get BT to install a proper line instead of those shite carrier lines. i was loggingonto BBS`s at 19,200 instead of 28,800/33,600!! Regards -- Team AMIGA http://www.hvymetal.u-net.com UIN:22288065 Amiga A1200 + PPC 200/040 It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same. -- Mike Dennison ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sat Nov 28 09:24:11 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--703-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 08:24:30 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:24:30 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:24:29 0000 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 08:20:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 17915 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 08:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo20.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.10) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 08:19:58 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9GKQa27479 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:24:11 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:24:11 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Help From: DCWILSON99@aol.com I need to know where I can d/l software to use graphics on my amiga. Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect to amiga. anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly Here in states with my amigas in waiting for the big dance ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 28 11:30:29 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--704-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 10:29:00 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:29:00 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:28:59 0000 Received: (qmail 10766 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 10:32:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 10760 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 10:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.40) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 10:32:09 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=bradman) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.054 #1) id 0zjhcS-0007ZS-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:28:52 +0000 Message-ID: <002701be1aba$1fc07b60$605a989e@bradman> From: "Bradley Smith" To: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:30:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: "Bradley Smith" -----Original Message----- From: DCWILSON99@aol.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: 28 November 1998 08:24 Subject: [just-amiga] Help >Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect to >amiga. anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly >Here in states with my amigas in waiting for the big dance What type of Zip Drive is it? Is it parralel, or SCSI, as if it's a parallel drive I think you'll run into some problems trying to run it on the miggy.. Brad Smith brad@tekrum.com brad@bradman.demon.co.uk http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk [IRC] ^Bradman^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mattias.andersson@home.se Sat Nov 28 12:18:17 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--705-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 11:19:20 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:19:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:19:19 0000 Received: (qmail 28362 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 11:25:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28357 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 11:25:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www) (192.176.126.19) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 11:25:03 -0000 Received: from sala.se by www (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA23638; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:19:08 +0100 From: Mattias Andersson To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:18:17 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002701be1aba$1fc07b60$605a989e@bradman> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: Mattias Andersson > From: "Bradley Smith" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DCWILSON99@aol.com > To: just-amiga@onelist.com > Date: 28 November 1998 08:24 > Subject: [just-amiga] Help > >> Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect to >> amiga. anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly >> Here in states with my amigas in waiting for the big dance > > What type of Zip Drive is it? Is it parralel, or SCSI, as if it's a > parallel drive I think you'll run into some problems trying to run it on > the miggy.. Well, I built an interface for the parralel drive with great success. Easy to make and works just fine. Search on Aminet for it. /Matte -> mattias.andersson@home.se/UIN:417142 <- ----- Dispite all my rage, i'm still just a rat in a cage. /SP ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Nov 28 14:49:49 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--706-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:19:37 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:37 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:37 0000 Received: (qmail 28691 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:19:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28674 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:19:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:19:23 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0036.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.36]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14070 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:21 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:49:49 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Come on...... From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 24-Nov-98, Chris Seward wrote: > Right i'm now up to £40 of donations including some of my money and > still looking for help, it would only take 20 more people sending £10 > to raise enough money to beable to buy the site. You can send in > any major currency, just add a bit extra as they charge to convert > money, i'll get it changed. With Christmas around the corner see if > you have any spare change you can donate, the address is :- > > Chris Seward, 10 Scafell Close, Eastham, Wirral, Merseyside, L62 9EU. > ENGLAND. No chance... £40 will just about cover my debt once I get my phone bill :( Are you sure you can't get the name cheaper? Why not go for something like a V3 URL? If you're after a free, easy to remember URL, you have these to choose from (off the top if my head): http://welcome.to/aio http://surf.to/aio http://come.to/aio http://fly.to/aio http://aio.amiga.tm/ http://aio.amiga.to/ aio can be anything you want, and you can get them at http://come.to/ and http://www.amiga.tm/, and that's how I got my URL http://surf.to/amisite To be honest, I can't see a domain name making AIO more populour - a V3 URL is £243 UKP cheaper, as easy, if not easier to remember, and then you have £40 with which to buy review material etc. To get it free, you do have to have a banner on your site (what I do), have a redirection page diplayed every so often, with an ad on, or something else I can't remember right now. If you don't want any of that, £10 p.a. will pay for the URL, at least at come.to. Regards Tom -- *AmiSITE: http://surf.to/amisite* A1200T 040@25 603p@166 32MB V90 850MB+2.5GB HD 24X CDRom P200MMX 64MB 4.3GB HD 32X CDRom ICQ:17701673 tom_hurst@geocities.com IRC:"Freaky" -- I understand you sell dead birds, fried, here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From tom.hurst@clara.net Sat Nov 28 14:34:43 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--707-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:19:38 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:38 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:37 0000 Received: (qmail 17255 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 17162 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:19:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remus.clara.net) (195.8.69.79) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:19:07 -0000 Received: from clara.net (Tom@du-026-0036.claranet.co.uk [195.8.89.36]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14076 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:19:23 GMT (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) From: Thomas Hurst To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:34:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: AmiSITE -> http://surf.to/amisite <- AmiSITE Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A step closer to free UK local calls....? From: Thomas Hurst Hi! On 28-Nov-98, David Bateman wrote: >> From: "Chris Seward" >> P.s. Does anyone know the address for Oftel, the government >> organisation that regulates telephone companys, the b'stards >> that won't let us have free calls, I would be interested in >> writing to them if anyones got the address. Oftel are not preventing free local calls - they are keeping BT's prices high, but anyone else who wants to can provide free calls. The thing is, the current system is set up for metered calls - ISP's get money off telecos for providing business, take that away and a lot of ISP's would go down the tubes. > oftel are in the phone book, i had to write to them to get BT to install a > proper line instead of those shite carrier lines. i was loggingonto BBS`s > at 19,200 instead of 28,800/33,600!! BT only promise speeds of 9,600 bps... Regards Tom -- *AmiSITE: http://surf.to/amisite* A1200T 040@25 603p@166 32MB V90 850MB+2.5GB HD 24X CDRom P200MMX 64MB 4.3GB HD 32X CDRom ICQ:17701673 tom_hurst@geocities.com IRC:"Freaky" -- :programming: n. A pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sat Nov 28 15:23:57 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--708-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:24:26 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:24:26 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:24:26 0000 Received: (qmail 217 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:24:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 212 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:24:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo19.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:24:19 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9QRAa04573 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:23:57 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:23:57 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: DCWILSON99@aol.com In a message dated 11/28/98 05:29:00, bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk writes: > > >What type of Zip Drive is it? Is it parralel, or SCSI, as if it's a SCSI - MY A4000 has a IDE hard drive but my 2000 has a SCSI hard drive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sat Nov 28 15:25:51 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--709-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:26:34 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:26:34 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:26:33 0000 Received: (qmail 2348 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:26:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2316 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo26.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.70) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:26:20 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9WGHa01253 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: <658b8b58.366007ef@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:25:51 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: DCWILSON99@aol.com In a message dated 11/28/98 06:19:22, mattias.andersson@home.se writes: > >Well, I built an interface for the parralel drive with great success. Easy >to make and works just fine. Search on Aminet for it. thanks, however right now neither Amiga has capability of going online. My online software for Amiga is really outdated :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From wmaddock@icon-stl.net Sat Nov 28 14:29:37 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--710-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:33:40 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:33:40 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:33:40 0000 Received: (qmail 7875 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:39:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 7774 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO icon-stl.net) (199.217.153.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:39:23 -0000 Received: from dialin-61.icon-stl.net (wmaddock@dialin-61.icon-stl.net [199.217.229.61]) by icon-stl.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24504 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:33:37 -0600 (CST) Date: 28 Nov 98 07:29:37 -0600 From: "William F. Maddock" To: "DCWILSON99" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <916.636T1857T4494070@icon-stl.net> X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: "William F. Maddock" On 28-Nov-98 02:24:11 DCWILSON99@aol.com DCWILSON99 wrote: >From: DCWILSON99@aol.com >I need to know where I can d/l software to use graphics on my amiga. >Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect >to amiga. anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly Here in >states with my amigas in waiting for the big dance What do you mean by "use graphics on my Amiga"? Please be more specific. As for the ZIP drive, buy another (SCSI) ZIP for the miggy, and get CrossMAC from Consultron. Works like a charm. You can format the "exchange" ZIPs on the MAC and use them on the miggy as well. -- William F. Maddock ICQ:14668944 http://www.icon-stl.net/~wmaddock Time: 28-Nov-98 07:26:53 CDT mailto:wmaddock@icon-stl.net St. Louis, Missouri, USA ftp://ftp.icon-stl.net/users/wmaddock Team AMIGA Written using THOR 2.5a Registered User Number 1621 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sat Nov 28 15:37:54 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--711-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 14:38:22 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:38:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.31] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:38:22 0000 Received: (qmail 9900 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 14:38:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9834 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 14:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo19.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.9) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 14:38:14 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9XJIa24635 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:37:54 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:37:54 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: DCWILSON99@aol.com In a message dated 11/28/98 09:33:37, wmaddock@icon-stl.net writes: >What do you mean by "use graphics on my Amiga"? Please be more specific. I'm sorry I meant to get a program to get graphics from the internet. all I have are old text only software for online. Thanks and I will look into crossMAC I have crosdos on my miggy but never used it and so maybe thought of trying that :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From topgun@pop.ch Sat Nov 28 16:42:17 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--712-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 16:43:20 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:43:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:43:19 0000 Received: (qmail 25241 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 16:49:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25096 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 16:49:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xariffusion) (195.141.232.20) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 16:49:01 -0000 Received: from dyna-azh-10.dial.eunet.ch (dyna-azh-10.dial.eunet.ch [193.72.22.233]) by xariffusion (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ba003303 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:43:58 +0000 From: Michael Jaccoud To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:42:17 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview6 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] fusion/shapeshifter and freeppp From: Michael Jaccoud Hello On emulated mac i have the following problem: by terminating an internet-connection with freeppp 2.5v(x) or higher the emu hangs... Does someone knows a solution for this? -- Gruss, Michael Jaccoud -------------------------------------------------------- Best regards Return mail address: Michael Jaccoud topgun@pop.ch -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 28 17:38:50 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--713-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 18:26:20 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:20 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:19 0000 Received: (qmail 24919 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 18:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24902 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 18:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 18:21:52 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:12 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.249] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:11 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:38:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <658b8b58.366007ef@aol.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: "Chris Seward" On 28-Nov-98, you wrote: right now neither Amiga has capability of going online. My > online software for Amiga is really outdated :( All you have to do is connect to the aminet with some PC or Mac ftp software depending on what computer your using. Copy the file to a 720k (I think thats the size?!) disk and then bung it into your amiga and mount pc0: or pc1: whichever suits. Kind Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From amiga@thefree.net Sat Nov 28 17:47:56 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--714-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 18:26:22 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:22 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:21 0000 Received: (qmail 24920 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 18:21:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24911 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 18:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.thefree.net) (195.34.192.14) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 18:21:54 -0000 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:14 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from thefree.net [195.34.195.249] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:26:13 0000 From: "Chris Seward" To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:47:56 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Amiga Information Online Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: A step closer to free UK local calls....? From: "Chris Seward" Thomas, On 28-Nov-98, you wrote: > Oftel are not preventing free local calls - they are keeping BT's prices > high, but anyone else who wants to can provide free calls. Why are they keeping BT's prices high? anyway I don't use BT because they are are a slightly over priced company, I'm now using Cable& Wireless. If your telling me that they are allowed to offer free local calls then why hasn't anyone written to them as they are probably the second biggest phone company in the UK or at least England at the moment. > > The thing is, the current system is set up for metered calls - ISP's get > money off telecos for providing business, take that away and a lot of ISP's > would go down the tubes. I'd rather see a few isps go down than see my bank balance go down :) We pay 'standing charge' each month so that could have a cut to the isps, they could charge like £20 a month and your local calls are free, that way phone companys make a reasonable profit and isps can stay secure, plus the biggest bonus is customers are happy with a service. > > BT only promise speeds of 9,600 bps... > BT are still using copper wire phone lines. Regards! -- Chris Seward Email : amiga@thefree.net Editor of Amiga Information Online Phone : +44 (0)7887 664 915 http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/ Aminet : Docs/Mags/AIOV??.lha Join JUST-AMiGA Mailing List: www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga AIO Registered domain 40 UKP/243 UKP [XXXX--------------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 28 14:15:18 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--715-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 21:20:27 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:20:27 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.13] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:20:26 0000 Received: (qmail 10681 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 21:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10606 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 21:23:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 21:23:33 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.054 #1) id 0zjrmo-0000FF-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:20:14 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:15:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] Help gets dragged on once more..... > From: DCWILSON99@aol.com > I need to know where I can d/l software to use graphics on my amiga. > Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect to > amiga. anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly > Here in states with my amigas in waiting for the big dance You need to be more specific, how do you mean use graphics? do you mean a prograam to view them, convert them, edit them, apply effects to them......? I'm guessing that you've never heard of the aminet. It's the world's largest collection of free software for any computer, but it's only for amiga :)) I'm not sure of the address, have a look for aminet. There are many many mirrors out there. What type of zip drive is it? parralel, scsi, ide ? -- Want a job with plenty of tips?, try circumcison Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 28 22:15:24 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--716-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 22:22:03 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:22:03 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:22:02 0000 Received: (qmail 22257 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 22:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 22252 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 22:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 22:21:33 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.054 #1) id 0zjskQ-00034D-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:21:50 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:15:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] Re: Help gets dragged on once more..... > I'm sorry I meant to get a program to get graphics from the internet. > all I have are old text only software for online. > Thanks and I will look into crossMAC I have crosdos on my miggy but never used > it and so maybe thought of trying that :) do you mean a web browser? like netscape?? try voyager, ibrowse, aweb..... -- Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice. Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From mash@dingnet.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 28 22:14:18 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--717-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 22:22:24 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:22:24 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:22:23 0000 Received: (qmail 7325 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 22:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7088 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 22:17:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 22:17:37 -0000 Received: from [193.237.14.110] (helo=mash) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.054 #1) id 0zjskO-00034D-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:21:48 +0000 From: Matthew O'Neill To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:14:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <658b8b58.366007ef@aol.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: Fluffy Pink Things.Inc Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: Matthew O'Neill [just-amiga] Re: Help gets dragged on once more..... > From: DCWILSON99@aol.com > In a message dated 11/28/98 06:19:22, mattias.andersson@home.se writes: >> >> Well, I built an interface for the parralel drive with great success. Easy >> to make and works just fine. Search on Aminet for it. > thanks, however right now neither Amiga has capability of going online. My > online software for Amiga is really outdated :( then just use the mac??? -- Worst name in the world : 3 Bill Gates Matthew O'Neill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk Sat Nov 28 23:33:34 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--718-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 22:35:33 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:35:33 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.229] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:35:33 0000 Received: (qmail 18988 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 22:31:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 18979 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 22:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.mail.demon.net) (194.217.242.7) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 22:31:04 -0000 Received: from [158.152.90.96] (helo=bradman) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.054 #1) id 0zjsxT-0003os-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:35:19 +0000 Message-ID: <005601be1b1f$9b919ca0$605a989e@bradman> From: "Bradley Smith" To: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:33:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: "Bradley Smith" -----Original Message----- From: DCWILSON99@aol.com To: just-amiga@onelist.com Date: 28 November 1998 14:24 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help >From: DCWILSON99@aol.com > > >In a message dated 11/28/98 05:29:00, bradley@bradman.demon.co.uk writes: > >> >> >>What type of Zip Drive is it? Is it parralel, or SCSI, as if it's a >SCSI - MY A4000 has a IDE hard drive but my 2000 has a SCSI hard drive. In that case then, it should be easy. Once you have the zip drive connected to a SCSI interface, download Zip Tools from aminet (youll have to do a search for the freeware version) and then format a disk via that. Brad Smith brad@tekrum.com brad@bradman.demon.co.uk http://www.bradman.demon.co.uk [IRC] ^Bradman^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From ragnar.fyri@daf.no Sat Nov 28 23:39:52 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--719-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 22:42:29 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:42:29 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.135.253] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:42:28 0000 Received: (qmail 6480 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 22:42:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6430 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 22:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO login-2.eunet.no) (193.71.71.239) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 22:41:58 -0000 Received: from daf.no (rfyri@pc11.pm2-5.eunet.no [193.71.251.74]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.9.0/8.9.0/GN) with SMTP id XAA11801 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:42:13 +0100 (CET) From: Ragnar Fyri To: Mattias Andersson Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: Ragnar Fyri 'Twas the night before 28-Nov-98, and all through the net, not a creature was stirring, except for Mattias, who whispered ominously: >Well, I built an interface for the parralel drive with great success. Easy >to make and works just fine. Search on Aminet for it. I searched (not because I need it, I'm just curious ) and found a file with some stuff created by someone in New Zealand. Haven't looked at it yet but unless you moved and changed your name I guess that's someone else's work... How about being a bit less cryptic and just giving us the path/filename? "Search for it on Aminet" is a bit like saying you live somewhere downtown... -- We'll be right back after these messages. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From DCWILSON99@aol.com Sat Nov 28 23:54:25 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--720-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 22:55:13 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:55:13 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:55:12 0000 Received: (qmail 26601 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 23:00:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 26592 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 23:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo18.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.8) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 23:00:50 -0000 Received: from DCWILSON99@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 9YLRa26097 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:54:25 -0500 (EST) From: DCWILSON99@aol.com Message-ID: <8a50fd5f.36607f21@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:54:25 EST To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: DCWILSON99@aol.com In a message dated 11/28/98 13:26:30, amiga@thefree.net writes: > >All you have to do is connect to the aminet with some PC or Mac >ftp software depending on what computer your using. Copy the >file to a 720k (I think thats the size?!) disk and then bung it >into your amiga and mount pc0: or pc1: whichever suits. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm From malky@nobleone.u-net.com Sat Nov 28 23:52:49 1998 >From bounce-just-amiga--721-amiga=thefree.net@onelist.com Sat Nov 28 23:05:01 1998 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:05:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from onelist.com [209.207.164.159] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:05:00 0000 Received: (qmail 4567 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1998 23:10:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4522 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1998 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.251) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 1998 23:10:39 -0000 Received: from [195.102.196.52] (helo=p52.nas1.is3.u-net.net) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for just-amiga@onelist.com id 0zjuKK-0002kc-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:03:01 +0000 From: "Malcolm Harnden" Organization: A4000 040/40Mhz PPC200Mhz CVPPC User Date: 28 Nov 98 22:52:49 +0000 X-Face: #5A^%~r~O5\5q,N}k*W3cw&!4,T%8,*s7U3r3@P(jYTrfOy8bd=xYgoI3)q[rXYD3+[_5~KHA.,+H2*@'=LB0wJQGCap9hEC_Os\Oy}!4v7-y6^Gg(uoNFg9^5,F[W{M'HIg1Jh;,8HJ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@onelist.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0a Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: just-amiga@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Help From: "Malcolm Harnden" Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:24:11 EST [just-amiga] Help Hi My modest reply to your.... --------------------------- > From: DCWILSON99@aol.com > > I need to know where I can d/l software to use graphics on my amiga. What type of use. You can find all sorts of progs on Aminet > Thanks. Also I use a zip drive for my mac clone would like to connect to > amiga. Is the Zip scsi or Parallel? For SCSI you`ll need a scsi interface for parallel you can use a IOBlix board from http://www.rbm.de anybody know of software to make it amiga friendly > Here in states UK, FRANCE, GERMANY, SPAIN, NORWAY, AUSTRALIA, with my amigas in waiting for the big dance > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm > -- Only the Amiga makes it possible (Especially the new super Amiga) Malcolm Harnden malky@nobleone.u-net.com http://www.nobleone.u-net.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the AIO team at www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/index.htm