From greenboy@bigsky.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:30:18 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2426 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2430 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> DEVO-lution of Reprehensible Fools Date: Fri, 1 May 98 00:30:00 Message-ID: <3549098A.D9FCC3B1@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA22352for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:31:04 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19992for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 01:12:07 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3548207B.74CEF6DF@bigsky.net> <9804302032.AA0171a@meta.burner.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: eae8a507618030393e12ad8c00506a06 >>Well I'm a real two-fisted man's man, and I don't need no damn >>sequencer. Jamie Krutz wrote: >Speaking of self reliance: when I was growing up, we used to walk >10 miles through the snow barefoot, uphill both ways, carrying the >horse and buggy because the horse was too lame to walk! :^) Yeah. In our pajamas, as our clothes was froze to the chair beside the bed. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:30:08 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2429 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2431 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> ToasterFlyer Answers Date: Fri, 1 May 98 00:30:00 Message-ID: <35490980.5C8F35C5@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA22357for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:31:09 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19991for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 01:12:05 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6fe8c0618022a36023c8d3a2ca77d58e Dan Oberley wrote: >1. Will i need a TBC to use the Toaster/Flyer? Yes. >2. How many Drives will i need? One for video and one for audio? Minimum. Better to have A-roll and B-roll drives for video, 3 drives total. >3. I have an A4000T with 12megs ram, is that enough ram? A 4meg simm these days has got to be pocketchange. Seriously. >4. Does the Toaster/Flyer have S-Video ins and outs? No. But the signal off its BNCs specs out better than almost any system's YC signal. 3rd party YC is available. >5. how many audio tracks can i have? Can I edit them seperate from the >video? 8 tracks with some restrictions (need reserve for crossfading). Can operate and be collected independently. I would say the ToasterFlyer's biggest advantage over the other Amiga systems mentioned is a higher profile developer with good docs and support, the others have not enjoyed any secrity in the marketplace. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From bohus@xnet.com Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:25:38 -0500 (CDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2429 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2432 (database) From: Bohus Blahut To: studio16 Subject: Re:Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 01:25:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA23169for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 00:26:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20901for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:07:09 +0200 X-Sender: bohus@typhoon MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ee434ef6d6038c3ea80db63fd5eb49b3 > > 1. Will i need a TBC to use the Toaster/Flyer? Yes. You don't need one for VLM, but it's nice. > 2. How many Drives will i need? One for video and one for audio? Flyer needs two specifically rated drives for video. VLM only requires one. > 3. I have an A4000T with 12megs ram, is that enough ram? or will I need more? More is better. Toaster definitely works better with minimum of 16 megs RAM. Never ran VLM on less than 16 megs. > 4. Does the Toaster/Flyer have S-Video ins and outs? You can buy a separate card for this. VLM has S-video in and out built in. > 5. how many audio tracks can i have? Can I edit them seperate from the video? Don't know about Flyer- think that it's 8. VLM has unlimited audio tracks, but they must be rendered together. I sometimes got dicey audio on the VLM. > Right now I just need S-video quality but, if things work out I'll need > better. On the other hand, a V-Lab Motion maybe all i ever need. > > 6. Will I need a toccatta for V-Lab to get sound? Or is it built in? If not, > will the two cards sync up tightly? Vlab needs a Toccata for sound. The two sync up transparently to the user. > > I'd really Love to have a Toaster/Flyer. It depends on how much additional > hardware I'll need. A great bonus is Lightwave!!! I use Imagine right now > but, Lightwave looks much better. LightWave is the best, but other 3D softwares on the AMiga are faster renderers on the '060- Cinema 4D, Aladdin 4D, Tornado 3D. Bohus Blahut (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot) Bohus@xnet.com Modern Filmmaker vox/fax: 773.465.5158 director- The Vantage Point "Imitation is the sincerest form of copyright infringement" -BB ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From ImJohn@worldnet.att.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:17:58 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2431 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2433 (database) From: John Rice To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> ToasterFlyer Answers Date: Fri, 1 May 98 02:17:01 Message-ID: <354922C6.42224232@worldnet.att.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA23835for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 01:13:08 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21231for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:53:43 +0200 Organization: Ib Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <35490980.5C8F35C5@bigsky.net> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 844881da135bbaf8f9b5f1dca096aa39 > >3. I have an A4000T with 12megs ram, is that enough ram? > > A 4meg simm these days has got to be pocketchange. Seriously. > If you can even find them! :-) 8meg 72 pin 60ns SIMMs are going for about $20, but it's better to buy 32meg SIMMs for only $40, if you can use them. Wasn't it only a few years ago that a 1meg 30 pin SIMM would cost about $40?! Not an Amiga dealer ( just PC stuff ) but Computer Stop usually has very good retail prices. Check 'em out at ImJohn@worldnet.att.net .......I play drums. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From ImJohn@worldnet.att.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:20:30 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2430 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2434 (database) From: John Rice To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> DEVO-lution of Reprehensible Fools Date: Fri, 1 May 98 02:20:00 Message-ID: <3549235E.E5E5394A@worldnet.att.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA23879for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 01:14:59 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21265for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:56:15 +0200 Organization: Ib Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3548207B.74CEF6DF@bigsky.net> <9804302032.AA0171a@meta.burner.com> <3549098A.D9FCC3B1@bigsky.net> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 75cd3ef50eea6af07d9e13b3e9265d2b greenboy wrote: > >>Well I'm a real two-fisted man's man, and I don't need no damn > >>sequencer. > > Jamie Krutz wrote: > >Speaking of self reliance: when I was growing up, we used to walk > >10 miles through the snow barefoot, uphill both ways, carrying the > >horse and buggy because the horse was too lame to walk! :^) > > Yeah. In our pajamas, as our clothes was froze to the chair beside the > bed. You had pajamas????? ;-) ImJohn@worldnet.att.net .......I play drums. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fdiebel@emrl.com Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2429 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2435 (database) From: Floyd Diebel To: studio16 Subject: Re:Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 03:05:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA24705for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:05:30 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22489for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:46:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4d449ce1f82edcf3ae0c5b86e72b5f8a On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Dan Oberley wrote: > Thanks for all the input everybody :) > > I still have a few questions about the Toaster/Flyer and V-lab motion. > > 1. Will i need a TBC to use the Toaster/Flyer? for the flyer, yes. for the vlab, no. > 2. How many Drives will i need? One for video and one for audio? in order to do dissolves, the flyer needs two drives. they function in a similar way as having an a roll and a b roll. in order to use audio that is not married to that particular video cut, you'll need a seperate audio drive as well. so, an effective flyer system really requires three drives. vlab can work with only one drive. it needs seperate partitions for audio and video however, and they can not be amigados volumes. > 3. I have an A4000T with 12megs ram, is that enough ram? or will I need more? my a4000 has 16 megs, and its fine with the flyer setup. i think 12 would be fine, as long as i were not running imagefx/soundprobe/etc as well as the flyer. i'm prone to doing this, though. vlab really ought to have 16, but it will work with 12. you may have more problems though. > 4. Does the Toaster/Flyer have S-Video ins and outs? with a y/c plus add-on card, yes. in standard config, no - just composite. there's a s-in on the flyer card, but i don't think its functioning. maybe later in a mythical software update. > 5. how many audio tracks can i have? Can I edit them seperate from the video? the flyer will let you playback eight audio tracks, i believe. i've never used that many though - for anything really layered or tricky, i go back to the ad516, SMPTE'd to the flyer. editing audio on the flyer is not like editing audio on the sunrize at all. it's stuck too much in the "crouton"/object oriented thinking. problem is, its very difficult to edit the object! i think av8r pro provides a nicer interface to the flyer for more intricate editing, but i have yet to cough up for it yet. it also includes a keen jog shuttle. woowoo! > Right now I just need S-video quality but, if things work out I'll need > better. On the other hand, a V-Lab Motion maybe all i ever need. i wouldn't call the vlab s-vid quality. not on the a3000 here at my studio, anyway. > 6. Will I need a toccatta for V-Lab to get sound? Or is it built in? If not, > will the two cards sync up tightly? yes, you will need a tocatta, and yes, they work wonderfully together. the movieshop interface is more like the studio16 cuelist than the flyer - i like it better for most things. the flyer is *very* fast though, when you get the hang of it. > I'd really Love to have a Toaster/Flyer. It depends on how much additional > hardware I'll need. A great bonus is Lightwave!!! I use Imagine right now > but, Lightwave looks much better. lightwave is also much easier/faster, for me anyway. hope that helps. -f ----- fdiebel@boulez.emrl.com a/v composition and engineering. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:58:00 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2434 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2436 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> DEVO-lution of Reprehensible Fools Date: Fri, 1 May 98 03:58:00 Message-ID: <35493A38.DE09994B@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA25315for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:58:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23729for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:39:03 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3548207B.74CEF6DF@bigsky.net> <9804302032.AA0171a@meta.burner.com> <3549098A.D9FCC3B1@bigsky.net> <3549235E.E5E5394A@worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 98ca6d23fcac7bdd857fbc7a1fed2836 greenboy wrote: >>>>Well I'm a real two-fisted man's man, and I don't need no damn >>>>sequencer. >>>Speaking of self reliance: when I was growing up, we used to walk >>>10 miles through the snow barefoot, uphill both ways, carrying the >>>horse and buggy because the horse was too lame to walk! :^) >>Yeah. In our pajamas, as our clothes was froze to the chair beside >>the bed. John Rice wrote: >You had pajamas????? ;-) Yeah, and they was a designer brand too! Said so right across the chest: P-O-T-A-T-O-E-S ... [ta-ta-tum] --greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:06:08 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2433 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2437 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: S16> Ram-chip Cookies n' other confections Date: Fri, 1 May 98 04:06:00 Message-ID: <35493C20.3A4E10D1@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA25727for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:05:58 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24027for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:47:12 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <35490980.5C8F35C5@bigsky.net> <354922C6.42224232@worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 35e8f8842375ff9a9d38b4cf903c6630 John Rice wrote: >Not an Amiga dealer ( just PC stuff ) but Computer Stop usually has >very good retail prices. Check 'em out at http://www.computerstop.com/ And if you like COOKIES, they are sure to feed you until regurg is the urge (and you haven't even stepped in off the porch yet). ;^) -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Fri, 01 May 1998 09:00:09 +0000 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2435 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2438 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 10:00:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id HAA29685for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 07:58:25 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29220for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:39:26 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9e9251bb8f5c4a9176dcb25fe170d3b9 On 01-May-98, Floyd Diebel wrote: > vlab can work with only one drive. it needs seperate partitions for audio > and video however, and they can not be amigados volumes. Audio and video should really be on different drives, otherwise the heads have to be constantly jumping around from one to the other, which will slow things down. The audio partition can go on the main system drive, with a second drive just for video. > lightwave is also much easier/faster, for me anyway. Imagine is improving rapidly. It works well under CGFX, and on a 17" monitor the display is very usable. The new 68040/060 textures render much faster. -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fdiebel@emrl.com Fri, 1 May 1998 08:03:32 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2438 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2439 (database) From: Floyd Diebel To: studio16 Subject: Re: Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 16:03:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA07383for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:05:04 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08400for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:44:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: fd4896edc554f5aa674f5d669efb7cd4 On Fri, 1 May 1998, Don Cox wrote: > On 01-May-98, Floyd Diebel wrote: > > > vlab can work with only one drive. it needs seperate partitions for > audio > > and video however, and they can not be amigados volumes. > > Audio and video should really be on different drives, otherwise the > heads have to be constantly jumping around from one to the other, [...] yeah, i was talking minimum config to get going. i have less experience with the vlab than the flyer, however. i haven't noticed problems using one drive, but i haven't pushed the vlab to extremes really. > > lightwave is also much easier/faster, for me anyway. > Imagine is improving rapidly. It works well under CGFX, and on a 17" > monitor the display is very usable. The new 68040/060 textures render > much faster. i "imagine" it has been improving. i haven't looked at it since version 3 though. its hard to think about leaving lightwave, which is so well integrated into the flyer setup. -f ----- fdiebel@boulez.emrl.com a/v composition and engineering. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From madmaxx@cyberhighway.net Fri, 1 May 1998 18:06:23 +0200 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2429 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2440 (database) From: Marv B. To: studio16 Subject: Re:Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 17:06:00 Message-ID: <2220.217T834T178@cyberhighway.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA09070for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 16:25:57 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13167for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:06:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.22 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 678ba1abe48aa702c01545c7252a339a GOOD Dy Dan.. >Thanks for all the input everybody :) >1. Will i need a TBC to use the Toaster/Flyer? $$4600 Depending on the video deck you use Yes (some decks have a TBC built in ie: on the low end of pro a panasonic AG1980 S-VHS deck has a full TBC most BetaCam SP decks have at least a VSS (video signal stablizer) that will work with the toaster. on the plus side a DPS TBC IV has y/c in/out and y,ry,by out. $895 >2. How many Drives will i need? One for video and one for audio? You will need two (2) video drives 4gb aprox. 20min. per drive $699. 9gb aprox. 48min. per drive $899. and one (1) Audio drive 2.1gb $239. >3. I have an A4000T with 12megs ram, is that enough ram? or will I need more? you will need 18mb total 4mb simms $15. >4. Does the Toaster/Flyer have S-Video ins and outs? no. you can add a little magic box for $899. full y/c in and out. >5. how many audio tracks can i have? Can I edit them seperate from the video? a total of 4 stereo tracks one each on the video drivesand 2 on the audio drive or 8 mono tracks. >Right now I just need S-video quality but, if things work out I'll need >better. On the other hand, a V-Lab Motion maybe all i ever need. >6. Will I need a toccatta for V-Lab to get sound? Or is it built in? If not, >will the two cards sync up tightly? I had a few customers who had V-Labs but found to be inadiquite and got flyers. there is no real support for V-Lab in the US. >I'd really Love to have a Toaster/Flyer. It depends on how much additional >hardware I'll need. A great bonus is Lightwave!!! I use Imagine right now >but, Lightwave looks much better. If you have any questions please feel free to call me toll free 1-888-623-6299 Marv snip +----------------------------------------------------------+ | madmaxx@cyberhighway.net is: 116 N.Latah | | Marv Birkinbine Pres. Boise, Idaho 83706 | | MAXXIMUM VIDEO CREATIONS INC. 1-888-mad-maxx | | "YOUR AMIGA DEALER 1-208-385-9658 | | FOR THE NEXT GENERATION" www.cyberhighway.net/~madmaxx | +----------------------------------------------------------+ ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From onad@ao.net Fri, 01 May 1998 17:54:48 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2441 (database) From: Dan Oberley To: studio16 Subject: Re:Non-Linear Video Date: Fri, 1 May 98 13:54:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA15847for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 21:59:36 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27513for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 23:38:39 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b5445491eade13bd2cdf238e544130b9 i just visited Newtek's web site. And I found all the answers to the questions I asks here! {I guess I should have looked there first!!} I was surprised about the info they gave!! Most Companies don't want you to know about any additional hardware you'll need to get going e.i. TBC. But, Newtek seemed to go out of there way to let you know that you'll need it! WOW!! Thats pretty COOL. I'm still glad I asks here because it's alway good to get feedback from real users. >From your info, V-lab Motion doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for. But, the Toaster/Flyer +TBC +3 harddrives is alittle to pricey for me at this point. So I think I'll stay with a tape based system for now but, add a Toaster and TBC now, and get the Flyer later if needed. I have another question: I lost my manual to my A4000T, I have 12 megs ram and want 16, can I use 'any' 4 meg ram chip or do I need a certain type? And what are the jumper settings to make the Amiga see it? Thanks again for the help, I hope these e-mails helped others as well as me. ;) BTW: I know this has nothing to do with Studio16 but, we Amigans must flight off the evil forces of Bill Gates any way we can!! -- ******************************** Spider Byte Dan Oberley Studio's Winter Park, FL (407)740-6616 ******************************** ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 01 May 1998 16:13:08 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2441 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2442 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Fri, 1 May 98 23:13:00 Message-ID: <354A48F4.35F248E5@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA16139for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 22:13:16 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28061for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 23:54:13 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 90b802db2a01331f322a97c10f53ceff Dan Oberley wrote: >can I use 'any' 4 meg ram chip or do I need a certain type? And >what are the jumper settings to make the Amiga see it? Standard 72-pin simm, 80 nanosec, in the 4 meg size, non-parity is fine. Non EDO as well. Just a plain old 72-pin simm, and no jumper settings. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 01 May 1998 16:13:30 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2441 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2443 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Fri, 1 May 98 23:13:00 Message-ID: <354A490A.D6EEE68F@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA16157for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 22:13:32 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28072for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 23:54:39 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: cfccf8112b9f6bc78cceb72d471ee54d Dan Oberley wrote: >can I use 'any' 4 meg ram chip or do I need a certain type? And >what are the jumper settings to make the Amiga see it? Standard 72-pin simm, 80 nanosec, in the 4 meg size, non-parity is fine. Non EDO as well. Just a plain old 72-pin simm, and no jumper settings. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From onad@ao.net Fri, 01 May 1998 19:57:55 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2442 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2444 (database) From: Dan Oberley To: greenboy Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Fri, 1 May 98 15:57:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA18268for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 00:00:36 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA31222for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 01:41:45 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5a0d384684b82342e684556276a44d10 This is a reply to the massage greenboy wrote on 02-May-98: >Dan Oberley wrote: >>can I use 'any' 4 meg ram chip or do I need a certain type? And >>what are the jumper settings to make the Amiga see it? >Standard 72-pin simm, 80 nanosec, in the 4 meg size, non-parity is fine. >Non EDO as well. Just a plain old 72-pin simm, and no jumper settings. >-- greenboy My roomate gave me a 4 meg 72-pin ram chip from his PC. The pins have a gap in the middle of the row. I don't know what nanosec it is or parity or EDO? If i try it, can it hurt my Amiga? ******************************** Spider Byte Dan Oberley Studio's Winter Park, FL (407)740-6616 ******************************** ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 01 May 1998 18:24:41 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2444 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2445 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 01:24:00 Message-ID: <354A67C9.EF7BFEA7@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA18662for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 00:25:16 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA32427for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:06:00 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: f2e3a05cee6ab1ef36e11aab10795c6b Dan Oberley wrote: > My roomate gave me a 4 meg 72-pin ram chip from his PC. The pins have >a gap in the middle of the row. I don't know what nanosec it is or >parity or EDO? If i try it, can it hurt my Amiga? No number on any of the chips (usually 60, 70, 80 and part of a larger string)? Multiples of 2 chips on simm = nonparity. Multiple of 2 chips + 1 chip = parity. IF it fits in the slot and the side retainers correctly it won't hurt your Amiga. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From mikemcoo@efn.org Fri, 1 May 1998 18:00:28 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2445 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2446 (database) From: Mike McCool To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 02:00:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA19133for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 00:52:13 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01047for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:33:19 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: garcia.efn.org: mikemcoo owned process doing -bs MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b68d1f0d4f48cec4a3606d62e2e2cb20 Long as we're OT, can I pick you simms experts' brains? I've recently acquired an A4000 with (presumably) 18 megs of ram. It has 5 simms in their proper sockets, and the proper jumpers on the board are set,--but it seems to have only ONE meg of chip ram. Does this denote a bad simm? (They're SO expensive now, I hope not). Thanx, M http://www.efn.org/~mikemcoo http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/lofts/9794 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From turk@gulftel.com Fri, 01 May 1998 21:10:51 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2446 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2447 (database) From: CMM To: studio16 Subject: Re[2]: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 04:10:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA20421for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:12:50 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04897for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:53:29 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: CMM MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 8a55f7947d49f85da81af4394c8a243b On 01-May-98, Mike McCool wrote: > Long as we're OT, can I pick you simms experts' brains? > > I've recently acquired an A4000 with (presumably) 18 megs of ram. It has > 5 simms in their proper sockets, and the proper jumpers on the board are > set,--but it seems to have only ONE meg of chip ram. > > Does this denote a bad simm? (They're SO expensive now, I hope not). Chip ram is not s SIMM. It is more than likely a zip chip of some type and they are not that expensive. Anyway, the first thing I'd do is open the machine, locate the chip men and press on all the zips to make sure they are seated properly. Chances are they are not as I've seen this happen quite often. Also, be sure that the machine has 2MB of CHIP RAM. It might only have one, but you should be able to tell when you locate the zip chips. There should not be any empty sockets. regards, ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 01 May 1998 20:46:08 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2447 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2448 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 03:46:00 Message-ID: <354A88F0.118088C@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA20884for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 02:46:45 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05833for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:27:17 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: acf6ea018ad577d45fced7036d3bcbd2 Mike McCool wrote: >>I've recently acquired an A4000 with (presumably) 18 megs of ram. It >>has 5 simms in their proper sockets, and the proper jumpers on the >>board are set,--but it seems to have only ONE meg of chip ram. CMM wrote: >Chip ram is not s SIMM. It is more than likely a zip chip of some Not so; this is A4000. Hoped I'd answered all the ram queries of the day, but here we are again. The simm furthest from the edge of the motherboard can be either a 1 meg or 2 meg simm. The most likely scenario is that you currently have a I meg simm there, buried under the three simms for fastmem. There is no jumper for chipmem. --greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From MAJOR1TOM@aol.com Fri, 1 May 1998 23:03:36 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2449 (database) From: MAJOR1TOM To: studio16 Subject: Re: Re[2]: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 04:03:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA21323for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:04:43 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06307for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:46:03 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7adea25f3d29b84dc1c7ad5d7f069f20 In a message dated 98-05-01 22:15:49 EDT, you write: << On 01-May-98, Mike McCool wrote: > Long as we're OT, can I pick you simms experts' brains? > > I've recently acquired an A4000 with (presumably) 18 megs of ram. It has > 5 simms in their proper sockets, and the proper jumpers on the board are > set,--but it seems to have only ONE meg of chip ram. > > Does this denote a bad simm? (They're SO expensive now, I hope not). Chip ram is not s SIMM. It is more than likely a zip chip of some type and they are not that expensive. Anyway, the first thing I'd do is open the machine, locate the chip men and press on all the zips to make sure they are seated properly. Chances are they are not as I've seen this happen quite often. Also, be sure that the machine has 2MB of CHIP RAM. It might only have one, but you should be able to tell when you locate the zip chips. There should not be any empty sockets. regards, >> CHIP RAM in an A4000 is a SIMM at position "U261 CHIP" on the mother board. This is the SIMM slot nearest to the daughter board. It will be occupied by ether a 256Kx32 (1 MB) or a 512Kx32 (2 MB) (fast ram uses 256Kx32 or 1Mx32) 72 pin SIMM. You can use 32 bit (nonparity) or 36 bit(parity) (the extra bits are ignored) the SIMMS can be double or single sided (this applys only to chip, fast ram must be single sided) 80ns or faster no more than 1" hight. regards, Montgomery Anderson A mechanic who does Sound FX for the local plays and has an animation and video hobby that caused him to buy, to date, 5 AMIGAs and a 128 MB of ram for one of them. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From mikemcoo@efn.org Fri, 1 May 1998 21:06:03 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2448 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2450 (database) From: Mike McCool To: studio16 Subject: A4k chipram Date: Sat, 2 May 98 05:06:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA22052for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:57:28 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07269for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 05:38:24 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: garcia.efn.org: mikemcoo owned process doing -bs MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4a36ff945c9368927d0a5a3583a60961 Thanx, Greenboy and Montgomery, for your thoughtful responses to my A4000 chip ram query. Interestingly, all five of the simms in my machine have (or at least appear to have) the same part number. That means the machine somehow recognizes that fifth (first, actually) simm as chip ram, and the rest as fast? You can see my next question coming down the interstate: what's the part number for a 2-meg simm, and can I buy one at the corner store? Thanx, y'all, M http://www.efn.org/~mikemcoo http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/lofts/9794 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 01 May 1998 22:11:11 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2450 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2451 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> A4k chipram Date: Sat, 2 May 98 05:11:00 Message-ID: <354A9CDF.808C65F6@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id EAA22281for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:11:08 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07500for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 05:52:18 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0a06008dbd06634655761dd616f6862e Mike McCool wrote: > Interestingly, all five of the simms in my machine have (or at least > appear to have) the same part number. So does your fastram read as 16 meg? >You can see my next question coming down the interstate: what's the >part number for a 2-meg simm, and can I buy one at the corner store? Boy that is a small simm by today's standards. Hardly any I see at the local emporium less than 16 or 32 meg. Don't really need a part #, just the description: 512K x 32, 80 nanoseconds or better (70 or 60), 72 pin page-mode simm. Anybody should be able to know what you mean by asking for a 2 meg 72 pin simm. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From baff@stc.net Fri, 01 May 1998 23:02:30 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2414 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2452 (database) From: Brian Fields To: greenboy Subject: Re: S16> Non-Linear Video: Trinity Date: Fri, 1 May 98 19:02:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id EAA22593for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:35:55 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07857for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:17:12 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e71c897678504815cd9a3bd7b3c6bc2d Greetings greenboy, >>that does high end editing). Then you are not talking about a system >>that actually digitizes the video onto a hard drive. It's a fancy >>editor that will make a file of all of the edits and effects >Oh no, it's quite a bit more - in theory. For the scoop on it, from this >year's NAB, see this Amiga.Org news item (its been all over, actually): "It's" suggests that it is. But it isn't. I was talikng about what is available now. Not what is theory.. Meaning that the NLE (digitized video) isn't shipping yet. And you'll have to pay more for "it" when "it" is more than a come on. Please excuse me if I sound passionate. I am so tired of the vaporware concept that is so much a part it seems in the cumputer industry. Yes, for $15,000 one can get into a PC based editing system that the digital video part of is still being developed and probably will be a cheap solution with a minimum of bugs within a year. Or one can buy a Toaster/Flyer system for close to half of that price that is a tried and true product. Yes, I've seen a Trinity in person, Media 100, and Toaster/Flyer systems thank you greenboy... >-- greenboy -- Ta fer now, Brian baff@stc.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From baff@stc.net Fri, 01 May 1998 23:38:13 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2409 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2453 (database) From: Brian Fields To: McKittrick, Mike T Subject: RE: Studio16 to CDDA Date: Fri, 1 May 98 19:38:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id EAA22767for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:50:22 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08189for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:31:42 +0200 To: "McKittrick, Mike T" X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7309f422fe68289f136962aed9e9dac5 Greetings Mike, >What are the tools and procedures some of you use to record sound in >stereo with the AD516, then create audio CDs? >I'm hung up on the issue of stereo Studio 16 files which are separate >files but need to be a single stereo CDDA file. >What programs are the most useful for creating stereo CDDA files >(or even stereo .wav for that matter)? Yes, as has been said here Asimware's MasterISO has it covered. Version 2.0 has all you need to do any kind of sample format conversions and the making of a CDDA file. I haven't used my 2.0 to burn yet as I just installed it a short time ago. I have used the old version and Audio Thunder which now seems to be incorporated into the newer version. >Perhaps a tutorial from someone who has made a CD from the initial >recording to the final CD burning would be most instructive. I have not to date done any audio CD's. Sorry I can't be of help here. All of mine was data put on to a CD. >Travis Halfman >thalfman@viser.net -- Ta fer now, Brian baff@stc.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From turk@gulftel.com Fri, 01 May 1998 23:52:37 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2449 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2454 (database) From: CMM To: studio16 Subject: Re[4]: S16> SIMMS Date: Sat, 2 May 98 06:52:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id EAA22809for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 04:54:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08322for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 06:35:26 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: CMM MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d46eddfa674decca187eef649a369ac2 On 01-May-98, MAJOR1TOM wrote: > In a message dated 98-05-01 22:15:49 EDT, you write: > > << On 01-May-98, Mike McCool wrote: >> Long as we're OT, can I pick you simms experts' brains? >> >> I've recently acquired an A4000 with (presumably) 18 megs of ram. It > has >> 5 simms in their proper sockets, and the proper jumpers on the board > are >> set,--but it seems to have only ONE meg of chip ram. >> >> Does this denote a bad simm? (They're SO expensive now, I hope not). > > Chip ram is not s SIMM. It is more than likely a zip chip of some > type and they are not that expensive. Anyway, the first thing I'd > do is open the machine, locate the chip men and press on all the > zips to make sure they are seated properly. Chances are they are > not as I've seen this happen quite often. Also, be sure that the > machine has 2MB of CHIP RAM. It might only have one, but you should > be able to tell when you locate the zip chips. There should not > be any empty sockets. > > regards, >>> > CHIP RAM in an A4000 is a SIMM at position "U261 CHIP" on the mother board. > This is the SIMM slot nearest to the daughter board. > It will be occupied by ether a 256Kx32 (1 MB) or a 512Kx32 (2 MB) (fast ram > uses 256Kx32 or 1Mx32) 72 pin SIMM. > You can use 32 bit (nonparity) or 36 bit(parity) (the extra bits are ignored) > the SIMMS can be double or single sided (this applys only to chip, fast ram > must be single sided) 80ns or faster no more than 1" hight. > Well there you go! :) I've never seen an Amiga with a SIMM for CHIP RAM so that is a new one for me. Ooops...hehe! ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Sat, 02 May 1998 10:13:25 +0000 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2450 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2455 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: A4k chipram Date: Sat, 2 May 98 11:13:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id JAA26240for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 09:14:40 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15026for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 10:55:36 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 29127e4798dc66e71fe1a12629d268e7 On 02-May-98, Mike McCool wrote: Here is the relevant paragraph from the Commodore A4000 service manual: Chip RAM SIMMS An Amiga with one megabyte of Chip RAM can be upgraded to two megabytes by changing the SIMM in the Chip RAM socket to a larger module. One-megabyte Chip RAM systems have a 1MB module. By removing this module and inserting a 2 MB module, Chip RAM increases to 2 megabytes. .... There are no jumpers to set when upgrading Chip RAM. >From experience, be careful when taking out the other SIMMS. The sockets are poor quality and the little plastic retainers break easily. Then your SIMMs work loose every few weeks. There is a jumper J213 which should have its link on pins 1-2. This was for a never-made Amiga which could have used 8 Megs of chip. It is said that setting this on the wrong pins could damage the Amiga. A 2 Meg SIMM is going to be hard to find. Try Paxtron. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Sat, 02 May 1998 07:16:30 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2452 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2456 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> Non-Linear Video: Trinity Date: Sat, 2 May 98 14:16:00 Message-ID: <354B1CAE.5709D125@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id NAA00089for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 13:19:19 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20958for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:57:38 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4d9340b051faeb3137bcbced82de6ce2 >>Oh no, it's quite a bit more - in theory. For the scoop on it, from this >>year's NAB, see this Amiga.Org news item (its been all over, actually): >> http://amigaorg.ukonline.co.uk/news/1998/0409-trinity.html Brian Fields wrote: >"It's" suggests that it is. But it isn't. I was talikng about what is >available now. Not what is theory.. Meaning that the NLE (digitized >video) isn't shipping yet. And you'll have to pay more for "it" when "it" >is more than a come on. I thought the supplied URP would make a better case against Trinity than a self-authored diatribe in limited space. As of recently the NLE is functional, by Play's definition (har-har!). Here's an exerpt from the review in Amiga Informer: PLAY STATES; "Preditor is a next generation non-linear/linear video editor built for speed and ease of use. Using Trinity's powerful hardware, all operations happen in real-time, including compositing up to eight video clips and digital audio tracks simultaneously. You can drag through your timeline, and see every dissolve, wipe, digital video effect graphic, title, and still store instantly, all at full D1 resolution without rendering." REALITY: Preditor only layers two tracks of video and two tracks of stillstore with audio. The dealer claimed this may never change or the whole interface to the software might be thrown out anytime. How comforting. The non-linear part of Preditor has no shipping date and costs extra even though Play says it's included in the $4,995. According to dealers and price quotes, this seems to not be the case, but that is a matter of course when it comes to the Trinity System. I too am not a fan of droolware, and Trinity appears to be one of the biggest cases I have seen in a long time. I kinda hope they go bankrupt before they sucker anybody else. Your old buddy, -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 75223.671@compuserve.com Sat, 2 May 1998 09:15:06 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2457 (database) From: Steve Kusaba <75223.671@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: B&P infatuation Date: Sat, 2 May 98 14:15:00 Message-ID: <199805020917_MC2-3BB1-A95B@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id NAA00115for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 13:20:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21028for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:00:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1a8a39c5c0b8ec3bb3b95feb8c9bfcbb Marcel, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< In case I should do that, I listen to the track and then play it on my midi keyboard right away because that's what I've been trained to do in the Music College and that's what my ears and hands are for if I consider myself a musician. Looks like the role of many computer programs is to hide our lack of talent and education. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. For centurys music has been hamstrung by the limitations of what the "hand" could do. If the old master composers were alive today they would hail Bars&Pipes Professional as an invention as great as the well tempored scale. I have used KCS and I do not understand what it is that you can do on KCS that you can't do on B&Pp. I know only too well what the reverse of that comparison is. If spending a year to master the fingering problems of a peice that you have conceived rather than creating it in a few days with the available tools is talent and education then we need a better definition of the terms. In music all that is important is the end product not the way it was produced. Otherwise we should stop using pianos since there is an obviously more difficult method at our disposal. (Jug playing?) For serious music composition Bars&PipesPro is more than enough power for a lifetime. The weakness in the composition process in B&P settings is in the peripherals that are sometimes assembled around it. Cheaply made tone generators that are priced beyond what they are worth is the only bottleneck now to a complete music composition envirenment that is self contained. No popularity contest, no special people, just the individual and his/her conceptions. What could be better than that. Bars&Pipes is the greatest software on the earth. Steve .Everyone should listen to the Art of the Fugue. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Sat, 02 May 1998 08:23:36 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2457 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2458 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> B&P infatuation Date: Sat, 2 May 98 15:23:00 Message-ID: <354B2C68.158D4B43@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA01175for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 14:24:10 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22848for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:04:52 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199805020917_MC2-3BB1-A95B@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: f17b92a58330960d0d632787c150ca3c Marcel wrote: >>In case I should do that, I listen to the track and then play it on my >>midi keyboard right away because that's what I've been trained to do in >>the Music College and that's what my ears and hands are for if I >>consider myself a musician. Looks like the role of many computer >>programs is to hide our lack of talent and education. Steve Kusaba wrote: >For centurys music has been hamstrung by the limitations of what the >"hand" could do. If the old master composers were alive today they would >hail Bars&Pipes Professional Steve, Marcel, howdy! Well, there are many positions between the "player" approach and the "composer" approach. Sequencers also really open up the classification "experimental composer". Again, valid (my definition of VALID: if great music has come from this approach, then it is). >No popularity contest, no special people, just the individual and >his/her conceptions. What could be better than that. Bars&Pipes is the >greatest software on the earth. B&P is an archetypical experimental playground! It could probably be improved; it's been a few years. If the program addresses well the needs and likes of all types of players and composers, that will be an improvement. Now that this topic has gone for some time, I've examined many sequencers on all platforms, and recalled the use of quite a few more. The ones I gravitate toward seem to have much in common with B&P. They have had an active upgrade life as of late - so features that I find useful have been added/improved, and streamlining has taken place. Your mileage may vary. -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From turk@gulftel.com Sat, 02 May 1998 12:40:33 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2456 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2459 (database) From: CMM To: studio16 Subject: Re[2]: S16> Non-Linear Video: Trinity Date: Sat, 2 May 98 19:40:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA04724for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:42:46 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01241for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 19:23:21 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: CMM MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d9b39fe2688d7bcaf5ab3a97e0f5046b On 02-May-98, greenboy wrote: > I too am not a fan of droolware, and Trinity appears to be one of the > biggest cases I have seen in a long time. I kinda hope they go bankrupt > before they sucker anybody else. > Me too. May the Amiga rest in peace...my ass. Trinity is a joke! ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Sat, 02 May 1998 12:13:48 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2459 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2460 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> Non-Linear Video: Trinity Date: Sat, 2 May 98 19:13:00 Message-ID: <354B625C.A76816B6@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA05301for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:13:37 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01630for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 2 May 1998 19:54:56 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: bc1cea833bc03254fbb670968aaae26a greenboy wrote: >>I too am not a fan of droolware, and Trinity appears to be one of the >>biggest cases I have seen in a long time. I kinda hope they go >>bankrupt before they sucker anybody else. CMM wrote: >Me too. May the Amiga rest in peace...my ass. Trinity is a joke! A joke told in bad taste, and what's that smell? Why, its rotten Kiki- fruit, baking away in an old Toaster behind the showroom curtain. Quick, someone get an distinguished extinguisher... Back on the funway! -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From syncom@mail.datanet.hu Mon, 04 May 1998 01:02:17 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2457 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2461 (database) From: Zsolt Kovacs To: Steve Kusaba Subject: Re: B&P infatuation Date: Mon, 4 May 98 01:02:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA06145for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:06:25 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18441for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 4 May 1998 00:45:17 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Syncom MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 651b97ce51239a9f867a1dfa75949f11 Status: O On 02-May-98, Steve Kusaba wrote: >Marcel, ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >In case I should do that, I >listen to the track and then play it on my midi keyboard right away because >that's what I've been trained to do in the Music College and that's what >my ears and hands are for if I consider myself a musician. Looks like the >role of many computer programs is to hide our lack of talent and education. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. >For centurys music has been hamstrung by the limitations of what the "hand" >could do. If the old master composers were alive today they would hail >Bars&Pipes Professional as an invention as great as the well tempored scale. >I have used KCS and I do not understand what it is that you can do on KCS >that you can't do on B&Pp. I know only too well what the reverse of that >comparison is. Sorry, Steve, I ain't Marcel, but I happened to write the above quotation. Actually, I never stated I could do things on the KCS that I couldn't do on B&P because I never even managed to get used to the display of B&P. It has always looked too 'messy' to me, and - it's probably my fault - I never got to a point where it stopped making me nervous after a few minutes. God help me, I've tried it several times, but there are just a few pieces of software you can never get to like. A good example is Audiolab where I never got past the demo... Starting a program that switches windows on and off by itself when you call functions is like having your ugly mother-in-law standing behind your back with a whip supervising your every move. No offense, Maurizio, but please tell me it's only a faulty Internet line that's causing this, you could NOT have meant that... I'm standing here with a company behind me specialized in audio-for-video with some money each year set aside for technical development, but that money is going to the bank only because nobody in HW development seems to care about timecode control (necessities of life: food, water and SMPTE). Thus I developed a hobby of collecting AD516s. I've got six at the moment, if anybody wants to get into a contest with me I'd be more than happy to face the challenge. By the way, those of you who have experience with harddisk recorder systems on the Mac and the Gates-is-not-rich-enough-yet artefact, I hear the one recording-one file approach is not quite common. To build a soundtrack out of a few-second-long samples is a dream for audio-for-video people, but less convenient for musicians. Does anyone have any experience on that? Zsolt Kovacs ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From studio16-owner@odin.thule.no Mon May 4 05:53:27 1998 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2464 (database) From: Steve Kusaba <75223.671@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Re: S16> Drummers Demand Decent Drive Date: Mon, 4 May 98 06:48:00 Message-ID: <199805040150_MC2-3BD4-D1FF@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA12415for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:53:26 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30726for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 4 May 1998 07:33:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject Status: O <<<<<<<< Musical instruments, and musical communication tools like notation, theory, etc have been evolving forever. And yet the interface of an instrument that has "depth" (guitar as opposed to kazoo) requires much training and discipline to operate. Sequencer and computer interfaces are an infant form; as power increases the evolution of these interfaces becomes assured. But the depth of any truly musical sequencer will always require training and discipline from the user. And patience will probably always have its rewards.>>>> Well put. No matter what you do in music, the quality takes work. Steve .Everyone should listen to the Art of the Fugue. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From studio16-owner@odin.thule.no Mon May 4 19:45:39 1998 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2467 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Recording trouble... Date: Mon, 4 May 98 20:36:00 Message-ID: <199805041540_MC2-3BD4-3ED5@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA03734for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 19:45:38 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23251for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:23:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject Status: O H e l p , Maybe someone can guide me to the answer to this quandry. I am a new user of S16, and have in installed in a desktop A3000 os3.1 and all the newest chip revisions. Oh yes, and I do have an AD516 installed. When I try to record just two tracks at 44.1khz (or any other speed for that matter) Studio16 will only record a few seconds (once up to about 45 secs.) and then just quit. If I hit stop and try to record again, nothing. I have to shut off the Amiga and reboot in order to try to record again. I have found that the recording will last a little longer if I don't have the "monitor" button pushed in but that's it. Did I miss something in the instructions? I am using S16 v3.0. Would switching to 3.01 cure this problem? Any hints would be greatly appreciated! .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From studio16-owner@odin.thule.no Mon May 4 20:58:13 1998 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2468 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Mon, 4 May 98 14:43:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA06024for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 20:58:10 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25727for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:39:11 +0200 X-ROUTED: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:58:28 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject Status: O On Mon, May 4, 1998, at 03:36 PM, charles hess wrote: > H e l p , > > Maybe someone can guide me to the answer to this quandry. I am a new user > of S16, and have in installed in a desktop A3000 os3.1 and all the newest > chip revisions. Oh yes, and I do have an AD516 installed. > > When I try to record just two tracks at 44.1khz (or any other speed for > that matter) Studio16 will only record a few seconds (once up to about 45 > secs.) and then just quit. If I hit stop and try to record again, nothing. > I > have to shut off the Amiga and reboot in order to try to record again. I > have found that the recording will last a little longer if I don't have the > "monitor" button pushed in but that's it. Did I miss something in the > instructions? I am using S16 v3.0. Would switching to 3.01 cure this > problem? > My setup: A3000 desktop and OS2.04. Old chips with old revisionsm works great. So maybe all the new stuff is the problem. Is your harddisk fast enaugh ??? What is the amount of your buffer in studio16 prefs ??? Succes with your quest. SeeYaa Rene'(DSP) Schaap _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 42 72 0 FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 66 31 7 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gclink@dryden.net Mon, 04 May 1998 22:03:40 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2467 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2471 (database) From: Gord Clink To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 04:03:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA10091for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 00:12:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA32041for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:52:30 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0db7ab2f02b8588df00e856466e735c0 Hello charles To start with, make sure your using the rev 8 WD SCSI chip. I have a 3000 and had the same problem. When I replaced the chip, my problems went away.... Gord Clink On 04-May-98, charles hess wrote: > H e l p , > > Maybe someone can guide me to the answer to this quandry. I am a new user > of S16, and have in installed in a desktop A3000 os3.1 and all the newest > chip revisions. Oh yes, and I do have an AD516 installed. > > When I try to record just two tracks at 44.1khz (or any other speed for > that matter) Studio16 will only record a few seconds (once up to about 45 > secs.) and then just quit. If I hit stop and try to record again, nothing. I > have to shut off the Amiga and reboot in order to try to record again. I > have found that the recording will last a little longer if I don't have the > "monitor" button pushed in but that's it. Did I miss something in the > instructions? I am using S16 v3.0. Would switching to 3.01 cure this > problem? > > Any hints would be greatly appreciated! > > > .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! > .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) Regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From neil@drempel.org.uk Mon, 4 May 1998 23:40:41 +0000 (GMT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2467 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2472 (database) From: Neil Brewitt To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 00:40:00 Message-ID: <199805042340.XAA12937@crunch.drempel.org.uk> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA11559for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:36:17 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01818for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:17:25 +0200 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ccf36fdff2d567d17ee442807d5282de > H e l p , 8< > When I try to record just two tracks at 44.1khz (or any other speed for > that matter) Studio16 will only record a few seconds (once up to about 45 > secs.) and then just quit. If I hit stop and try to record again, nothing. I > have to shut off the Amiga and reboot in order to try to record again. I > have found that the recording will last a little longer if I don't have the > "monitor" button pushed in but that's it. Did I miss something in the > instructions? I am using S16 v3.0. Would switching to 3.01 cure this > problem? Ok, two guesses. One, you're recording all audio onto a different SCSI bus and that bus is hanging, maybe because of bad termination (admittedly it's a long shot that you're running an A3000 with two SCSI busses in it); Two, Studio 16 v3.00 was, as I recall a buggy piece of software and caused me endless problems with basically a vanilla '3000. It got better when I upgraded to KS3.1, but it was still irritating enough for me to hit the roof when Sunrize decided to charge us for the bugfix, 3.01. Sorry I don't remember any detailks, just that 3.0 was pretty flakey. Neil. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From manny11@idirect.com Tue, 05 May 1998 00:51:40 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2468 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2475 (database) From: manuel marques To: Rene' Schaap Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Mon, 4 May 98 20:51:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA14755for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 05:02:58 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05202for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 06:44:10 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9b68ebdb74ed88fb47656902d4902d30 On 04-May-98, Rene' Schaap wrote: >On Mon, May 4, 1998, at 03:36 PM, charles hess wrote: >> H e l p , >> >> Maybe someone can guide me to the answer to this quandry. I am a new user >> of S16, and have in installed in a desktop A3000 os3.1 and all the newest >> chip revisions. Oh yes, and I do have an AD516 installed. >> >> When I try to record just two tracks at 44.1khz (or any other speed for >> that matter) Studio16 will only record a few seconds (once up to about 45 >> secs.) and then just quit. If I hit stop and try to record again, nothing. >> I >> have to shut off the Amiga and reboot in order to try to record again. I >> have found that the recording will last a little longer if I don't have the >> "monitor" button pushed in but that's it. Did I miss something in the >> instructions? I am using S16 v3.0. Would switching to 3.01 cure this >> problem? >> Try to install the AD516 card in another slot. Reinstall the software. Make shore that you have enough room in the hard drive. Make shore that you have enough memory for the buffer size. If you are using a buffer of 512 KB studio 16 will allocate 1MB X number of tracks. If you are using 8 tracks you will need 8MB. Always double the buffer size times number of tracks. Manny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 75223.671@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 03:04:01 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2476 (database) From: Steve Kusaba <75223.671@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Re: B&P infatuation Date: Tue, 5 May 98 08:04:00 Message-ID: <199805050306_MC2-3BE9-C95B@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id HAA17010for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 07:07:42 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07984for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:49:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ba805c180382795833da95a9155a8ef9 Zsolt, <<<<<<< I never even managed to get used to the display of B&P. It has always looked too 'messy' to me, and - it's probably my fault - I never got to a point where it stopped making me nervous after a few minutes.>>> Well, I kind of know what you mean. My first experiences with Bars&Pipes came after I had used DeluxeMusic for some time. I liked the staff approach and had come to accept the limitations on the number of notes. One just had to use a contrapuntal style. When I opened up B&P it was sort of bewildering. Over time I set a compositional agenda that called for two learning elements in each peice produced. 1. A particular feature of B&P. A tool, a menu selection, an icon etc. 2. A compositional element, A mutant scale paired with a compound time signature or something else. In time, the program developed a different sort of relationship to me. It became almost like an instrument. With each revision new features were added and some were dropped. For certain kinds of compositions I would actually use previous releases for characteristics that had been dropped in later versions. In time what stood out about the program was that there were so many different methods available in it that one could do the same thing in four or five different ways. It became clear soon that any musical manipulation that I could imagine was attainable with this program from a number of methods. Even tools that did not work such as tempo tap did not matter, there was always another way to conduct that function that worked just as good. The features that needed fixing the most was the key and scale mode and the staff notation. But all in all I can tolerate these shortcomings far easier than I can the disgusting nature of the sound hardware that is made these days. By the way, what is your CD recording settup? Good luck to you. Steve .Everyone should listen to the Art of the Fugue. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Tue, 5 May 1998 07:22:03 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2475 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2477 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 12:22:00 Message-ID: <19980505.074049.3638.1.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA25361for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:43:35 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17289for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 13:24:08 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4,6-7,9-12 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4a7307ff743f3f12d3589741e1baa86f > Maybe someone can guide me to the answer to this quandry. I am a Some one else in the list had a similar problem. They had pulled a HD from a different controller and installed it in their 3000 on the native controller. They were able to fix their problem by completly repartioning/reformating the HD in the 3000, then reinstalling the apps and setting up the big blocks partition. At first they were only able to record 2 tracks max. After, they were able to do 8 tracks with no problems. Good luck. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Tue, 05 May 1998 08:25:40 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2476 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2478 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: S16> Disgusting Audio Friends I Made At Summer Camp Date: Tue, 5 May 98 15:25:00 Message-ID: <354F2164.6FC43115@bigsky.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA00604for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 14:29:12 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21731for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:07:43 +0200 Organization: Greendream X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199805050306_MC2-3BE9-C95B@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4aa10ddd8b1fa5bce4688b65f0dcba46 Steve Kusaba wrote: >But all in all I can tolerate these shortcomings far easier than I can >the disgusting nature of the sound hardware that is made these days. So you wouldn't want a 20-bit 98dB s/n digital audio card that has a metal breakout box with 1/4" phone-jack inputs (2) and outputs (8), digital i/o, and sells for under $450? (THD <.005%, 20Hz-22kHZ, A-wght) Or the same with 8 balanced inputs (simultaneous), 10 balanced outs, word-clock sync, midi ports, onboard Motorola 56301 DSP (80mips), that allows real-time 24-bit mixing and effects without CPU-load, for under $900? Well, prepare the Disgustigator - I'm coming in! -- greenboy ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:53 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2479 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 17:08:01 Message-ID: <199805051212_MC2-3C01-2C5@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA03652for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:14:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25747for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:55:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1977727d26ad095343ad6b40f85de197 T r o y , I have already done pretty much what you have said, but I'll keep it in mind if other suggestions fail. Thank you for the suggestion! .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:46 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2480 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 17:08:00 Message-ID: <199805051212_MC2-3C01-2C4@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA03653for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:14:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25704for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:54:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: faa9407bc201a5c30fb3cc652bb21fdc M a n n y , Thank you very much for your hints about S16. I'm not sure I understand a couple of them, though. ``If you are using a buffer of 512 KB studio 16 will allocate 1MB X number of tracks.'' Are you talking about the size of the "channel buffer". If so, mine seems to max out at 4096K. Right now I have it at 256K. ``If you are using 8 tracks you will need 8MB.'' 8MB on my Channel buffer? ``Always double the buffer size times number of tracks.'' Could you give me another example? I'm not sure I understand. Again, thank you very much. .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:28 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2481 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 17:08:00 Message-ID: <199805051212_MC2-3C01-2C2@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA03666for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:14:37 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25776for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:56:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 422451fe8c780d28ba92b626891f430f N e i l , Thanks for the advice 'bout v.3.0. I'll have to finally install v.3.01. .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:24 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2482 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Re: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 17:08:00 Message-ID: <199805051212_MC2-3C01-2C1@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA03665for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:14:37 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25728for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:55:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d77d7bb6e7fa1bb36a210f83e9394e54 G o r d , ``To start with, make sure your using the rev 8 WD SCSI chip. I have a 3000 and had the same problem. When I replaced the chip, my problems went away....'' I had the rev8 chip in there and the same problem existed, but I'll put it back in again and see what happens. Thanks for the tip. .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Tue, 5 May 1998 12:08:20 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2483 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 17:08:00 Message-ID: <199805051212_MC2-3C01-2C0@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA03741for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 16:17:46 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26057for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:59:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9f4a580b0a01b89f0bbe185e22800c3c R e n e' , ``What is the amount of your buffer in studio16 prefs ???'' The "channel buff" is 256K and the "copy buffer" is 64K. Do you recommend a different setting? I can't switch back to the old chips and OS, though. Thanks for the help! .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Wed, 6 May 1998 07:22:04 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2484 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Tue, 5 May 98 23:22:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA20515for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:27:43 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18436for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:04:13 +0200 X-ROUTED: Wed, 6 May 1998 07:23:28 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c82d7805f6d61d069847b7074293a047 On Tue, May 5, 1998, at 12:08 AM, charles hess wrote: > R e n e' , > > ``What is the amount of your buffer in studio16 prefs ???'' > > The "channel buff" is 256K and the "copy buffer" is 64K. Do you recommend a > different setting? Sounds OK by me, but try some diffrent setting for the channel buff. > > I can't switch back to the old chips and OS, though. I know, but it just passed my mind, some S16 users on this mailing list have those new chips without problems. So, i thinks that's not the problem. Maybe the SCSI Chip of your A3000 is the problem, i have heard this on this mailinglist. > > Thanks for the help! OK, no problem. > > > ..Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! Succes with your quest SeeYaa Rene'(DSP) Schaap _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 42 72 0 FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 66 31 7 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From neil@drempel.org.uk Tue, 5 May 1998 22:17:28 +0000 (GMT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2485 (database) From: Neil Brewitt To: studio16 Subject: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Tue, 5 May 98 23:17:00 Message-ID: <199805052217.WAA15410@crunch.drempel.org.uk> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA14472for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 19:39:03 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07849for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 21:19:13 +0200 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 757ce2ffea5e73fd1669c32a6c4074c8 Hi all, Before I expend an enormous amount of time doing something which somebody else may have done, can I appeal to you folks for some information? 1. Has anybody begun / completed reverse-engineering any or all of the Studio16 libraries? 2. What is the potential use of having an API and / or pseudo source code for any / all of the libraries? Specifically, I would target studio.library as being the most "interesting" for me, but this may not be the general case. 3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. Again, specifically, I would like, not realtime effects, but better effects - Envelope control, pitch-shifting, etc. but this may not be the norm. 4. Does anybody know how current the available SDKs are? I was told by Todd Modjeski around two years ago that "there was no real SDK for Studio16 v3.xx, and all the old SDK's are out of date now.". 5. Would there be any real interest in having a "whip around" and actually paying any of the Sunrize team for their time (I am thinking of one specific developer who was very open about the fact that he will do anything for money) to, for instance, reconstruct as much of an SDK as there could be for 3.xx? I should also point out that this project has been on the boil for a long time now, but I haven't had a) an amiga, b) a disassembler, or c) any time free all together in the same place at one time up until now. I also haven't noticed any of this in the FAQ. :) I'd also like to make clear that, whilst I am a software engineer by profession, I one of the main reasons I'm doing this is so that I can learn more about the amiga, of which I have little practical experience. Neil. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From roofdoc@dircon.co.uk Wed, 06 May 1998 21:20:35 -0000 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2485 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2486 (database) From: Wayne Olding To: Neil Brewitt Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Wed, 6 May 98 22:20:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA15770for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 20:23:56 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08944for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:04:16 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: V.T.C MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id WAA08932 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9f8e3208ce952a8f72cff37dbe15242d On 05-May-98, Neil Brewitt wrote: >5. Would there be any real interest in having a "whip around" and actually >paying any of the Sunrize team for their time (I am thinking of one >specific developer who was very open about the fact that he will do >anything for money) to, for instance, reconstruct as much of an SDK as >there could be for 3.xx? >I should also point out that this project has been on the boil for a long >time now, but I haven't had a) an amiga, b) a disassembler, or c) any time >free all together in the same place at one time up until now. I also >haven't noticed any of this in the FAQ. :) I'd also like to make clear >that, whilst I am a software engineer by profession, I one of the main >reasons I'm doing this is so that I can learn more about the amiga, of >which I have little practical experience. Count me in for the "whip around" I've got £50 UK if it goes ahead! -- Wayne :-) Amiga - A4000T CybStorm 060_50 + Cybscsi + CybVision3D + 2xIBM 4.3GB + SyJet 1.5GB + IIyama Pro17 + 128 Meg Ram + TBCPlus + Emplant Deluxe + Toshiba 32x SCSI CD-Rom + Yamaha CDR400t Writer + HP ScanJet 4C + Epson Stylus 800 + AD516 + OpalVision Thought: If PC's could fly, there would be a lot of air disasters... ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From andreas@idt.net Wed, 06 May 1998 17:05:35 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2486 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2487 (database) From: AnDy To: studio16 Subject: Re[2]: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Wed, 6 May 98 22:05:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA16819for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 21:09:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10473for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:50:42 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ccc36a7960dd23f1023d1e66fa2cec52 Hello Wayne > Count me in for the "whip around" I've got 50 UK if it goes > ahead! Yes me too .. we need help on that . Thanks for doing that ! and Good luck Greetings -- AnDy ------------------------------------ andreas@idt.net http://idt.net/~andreas Fax +1 (212) 961 1277 New York City ------------------------------------ Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying. -- Woody Allen ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From beachler@iastate.edu Wed, 6 May 1998 17:07:03 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2485 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2489 (database) From: Rich Beachler To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Wed, 6 May 98 23:07:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA19078for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:03:57 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12537for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:45:09 +0200 X-Sender: beachler@pop-2.iastate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: dea7c1b3f43f195c040f7bf3c9f273b9 Neil, Wayne and all... >Before I expend an enormous amount of time doing something which somebody >else may have done, can I appeal to you folks for some information? > >1. Has anybody begun / completed reverse-engineering any or all of the >Studio16 libraries? Kenny Nilsen (who started this mailing list) has done a lot of work investigating, breaking down and documenting the Studio16 Sample and Cuelist file formmats and written a number of great utilities and a fine modular application QMaster. (Thank you Kenny, we are forever in your debt!) Kenny also made some progress on an API for the libraries but ran into some problems. He could tell you better than I. Ben Fuller of the original Sunrise Team has hinted that he may be willing to write an AHI driver for the AD516. He's a member of this list and was an active participant for a while. However...he hasn't contributed since the middle of February. He has never really said he would do this for certain (and I understand his caution in doing so.) Other list members have stated that he hasn't been reponding to email they send him. Please Ben..If you're reading this, let us know if you have made any progress. >2. What is the potential use of having an API and / or pseudo source code >for any / all of the libraries? Specifically, I would target studio.library >as being the most "interesting" for me, but this may not be the general >case. Ah AHI driver would be the most immediately useful. Complete understanding of the Libraries could lead to driver development for apps such as AudioLab. Wouldn't the AD516handler be something useful to decompile also? >3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. Again, >specifically, I would like, not realtime effects, but better effects - >Envelope control, pitch-shifting, etc. but this may not be the norm. >4. Does anybody know how current the available SDKs are? I was told by Todd >Modjeski around two years ago that "there was no real SDK for Studio16 >v3.xx, and all the old SDK's are out of date now.". Access to the Recording and playback functions from other applications would be very useful. We might see better effects if someone who can program the DSP (and can get data to and from it) gets interested. >5. Would there be any real interest in having a "whip around" and actually >paying any of the Sunrize team for their time (I am thinking of one >specific developer who was very open about the fact that he will do >anything for money) to, for instance, reconstruct as much of an SDK as >there could be for 3.xx? I think many of the members of this group would be willing to contribute $$ to a project of this nature. Troy Silvey (another list member) tried to get people to commit to this a year ago, before this list existed. I was quick to sign on. >I should also point out that this project has been on the boil for a long >time now, but I haven't had a) an amiga, b) a disassembler, or c) any time >free all together in the same place at one time up until now. I also >haven't noticed any of this in the FAQ. :) I'd also like to make clear >that, whilst I am a software engineer by profession, I one of the main >reasons I'm doing this is so that I can learn more about the amiga, of >which I have little practical experience. > >Neil. Neil, I sincerely wish you the best on this endeavor and am sure you will receive a lot of support from others here. Bravo! Rich Beachler beachler@iastate.edu ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 07 May 98 02:53:11 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2485 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2493 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Neil Brewitt Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 02:53:00 Message-ID: <4181.431T567T1732316@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA22608for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 01:16:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18288for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:48:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 50af9be0a4447fa5318a4ba20a7c6ec7 Neil Brewitt wrote: >1. Has anybody begun / completed reverse-engineering any or all of the >Studio16 libraries? Hi Neil, I have disassembled the studio.library 3, the AD516 handler, Scala S16 EX EX and the StudioOpen comand. I haven't really had the time to go through the sources yet. Another thing that can make it problematic is that the studio.library put its args on the stack (functions and parameters can't be traced by patching the library as this would change the stackpointer) so you would be forced to parse every line in the disassembled source(s). There are no fd, lvo nor include files for the v3 library (only old ones v1/v2 which aren't compatible with 3.0). The basic for it is the same as for studio.library 2.0 AFAIU. That means a call to add a module, antoher call to receive broadcasted messages, a third call to allocate handler/channels and functions to handle messages and act upon them when they arrive. Cleanup is the reverse order to other calls (I take this on the fly so it might not be an exact recall of it..). Anyway, it's quite simple and the things that need to be found is the LVO for the calls and what parameters are put on the stack in what order. I won't have time to analyse the sources before after the summer atleast as I have a few projects going, but if you feel the urge and motivation for working on this I could send you a copy of what I have (not much other than disassembled sources..). >2. What is the potential use of having an API and / or pseudo source code >for any / all of the libraries? Specifically, I would target studio.library >as being the most "interesting" for me, but this may not be the general >case. A while before I started on the Studio16 add project I created a library called kstudio.library (just the worktitle.. :). It was a library interface that invoked arexx commands. It could have worked nicly playing and triggering files from HD - the latest version would also record and handle SMPTE, but due to a bug in the Studio 16's arexx interface (closing files while playing) it was terminated. Later I also did some research on the ADSP2105 dsp chip to target the hardware directly. I managed to write a DSP download program to download DPS object code to the ADSP onboard, but I wasn't able to enable sound even if the code seem to work (reading the sample and spend the time it was suppose to on playing it). Dr. Fuller provided me with some docs on the Studio 16 DSP environment and I got a book on the ADSP21xx from a person on the list (Brian Fields), but there are no ADSP assemblers on the Amiga (I don't have a PC) and I would need to learn the ADSP21xx assembler language from scratch. Dr. Ben Fuller also mentioned he _might_ write a driver for AHI, or look at the AHI API docs. We can wait and see how the status on that is currently. I personally would like to see a generic library from Ben to access the hardware directly with memory buffering. This way other people could pick it up from there and write an AHI driver based on that library (overhead is no problem here) and the library could also be used in other applications that doesn't need/want to support AHI etc.: / AHI driver / generic library --- Other driver software \ \ Other applications >4. Does anybody know how current the available SDKs are? I was told by Todd >Modjeski around two years ago that "there was no real SDK for Studio16 >v3.xx, and all the old SDK's are out of date now.". There are none (atleast at this time..). It's in the head of the developers. I guess we have been focusing on v3 of the library so much we haven't been able to see other options. Why not use v2 of the library if sound in/out is the only features we want to get ? It is doucmented and there are several example sources on who to use it. We could even 'zap' it to rename it to something else so that there won't be total system confusion. Just a thought anyway.. :-) For docs on the Studio 16 file formats look up the archive Studio16add.lha on Aminet, full path: ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/pub/aminet/dev/misc/Studio16add.lha regards, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From masquith@bellatlantic.net 6 May 98 21:52:59 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2485 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2495 (database) From: Mike Masquith To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Wed, 6 May 98 17:52:01 Message-ID: <3550DBBB.MD-0.198.masquith@bellatlantic.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA23384for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:02:24 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19755for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 03:44:09 +0200 Organization: Barkin' Beaver Studios Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ccac1de42de126748ffc977be9a74ed9 Neil Brewitt wrote: > 3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. Again, > specifically, I would like, not realtime effects, but better effects - > Envelope control, pitch-shifting, etc. but this may not be the norm. I would like to see better effects, too. I would like them to be previewable in real time (maybe at a lower quality if necessary), but the quality is more important. I already have some decent outboard gear (Alesis Quadraverb2, etc.), and if new effects in Studio16 aren't as good or better, I won't spend time using them. As always, I fervently hope Studio16 will be improved and experimented with. I also always have to restate my hope that digital I/O will be considered as a possible enhancement to S16. I was salivating at the prospect of getting a DD524 board when Sunrize announced it. I think they were on the verge of releasing it when they 'went under'. I am still VERY interested in it or an equivalent. -- -Mike Masquith, Barkin' Beaver Studios, VA, USA -A4000/060,CSMK1,CybSCSI Eagle Tower,VLM-Toccata,Ariadne -A3000/040,AD516,Ariadne,YamahaCDR101 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From manny11@idirect.com Thu, 07 May 1998 12:14:42 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2480 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2496 (database) From: manuel marques To: charles hess Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Thu, 7 May 98 08:14:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA15255for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 16:22:58 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12078for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 18:02:50 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b3f1f83b6c592a3be6b7dcae4c367c6c On 05-May-98, charles hess wrote: >M a n n y , >Thank you very much for your hints about S16. I'm not sure I understand a >couple of them, though. I'm sorry that I cause you some confusion. >``If you are using a buffer of 512 KB studio 16 will allocate 1MB X number >of tracks.'' What I meant was using a buffer of 512 KB with 2 tracks studio 16 will allocate 1MB with 4 tracks 2 MB and so on. >Are you talking about the size of the "channel buffer". If so, mine seems >to max out at 4096K. Right now I have it at 256K. So in your case will be 256 KB times number of tracks, check your cue list and see how many tracks you have loaded, if you have 2 tracks you need 0.5 MB with 4 tracks 1 MB. >``If you are using 8 tracks you will need 8MB.'' >8MB on my Channel buffer? Yes, if you are using 8 tracks with a chnnel buffer of 1024K >Could you give me another example? I'm not sure I understand. If your cue list opens with 4 channels and you have a channel buffer of 256K studio16 will allocate 1 MB for playback and record you need another megabyte to load WB, Studio16 will need one to two megabytes depending how many modules you have loaded, so in this configuration you will need 4MB. To run comfortably your machine should really have 8 MB fast ram. -How much ram do you have? -What size of HD and/or partition are you using? -Are you using the A3000 scsi controller? -Do you have one accelerator card with memory on it? There is something else that you can try, in preferences is a check box (Use Extended Memory) click on this box quit preferences save setup quit studio16, than load studio16 and try to record and see what happens. Manny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Thu, 07 May 1998 14:00:09 +0000 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2493 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2497 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 15:00:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA17223for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:45:58 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14691for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:26:58 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 791d226dde7df0ac61e1870a455e92cb On 07-May-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > I won't have time to analyse the sources before after the summer atleast as > I have a few projects going, but if you feel the urge and motivation for > working on this I could send you a copy of what I have (not much other than > disassembled sources..). I think it would be a good idea to mail these dissembled sources to anyone on the list who thinks he is a good enough programmer to dig some clues from them. The more people work on this, the better the chance of getting some docs out of it. The ideal outcome would be a programmers' guide with example code, like the "Rules for Tools". Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From neil@drempel.org.uk Thu, 7 May 1998 19:21:36 +0000 (GMT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2495 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2500 (database) From: Neil Brewitt To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 20:21:00 Message-ID: <199805071921.TAA05363@crunch.drempel.org.uk> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA24435for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:05:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21444for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:46:30 +0200 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ad6b40fdd9da767fcb78892b91f21a4f Status: O > Neil Brewitt wrote: > > 3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. Again, > I would like to see better effects, too. I would like them to be > previewable in real time (maybe at a lower quality if necessary), but > the quality is more important. I already have some decent outboard > gear (Alesis Quadraverb2, etc.), and if new effects in Studio16 aren't > as good or better, I won't spend time using them. Quite. My own interest is to develop effects which people don't MAKE outboard stuff to do. :) > As always, I fervently hope Studio16 will be improved and experimented > with. I also always have to restate my hope that digital I/O will be > considered as a possible enhancement to S16. I was salivating at the > prospect of getting a DD524 board when Sunrize announced it. I think > they were on the verge of releasing it when they 'went under'. I am > still VERY interested in it or an equivalent. Ah. Sore point. I had an amazing slanging match with both Premier Vision in the UK (my supplier) and Sunrize themselves because I basically bought the AD516 as my home-studio solution, incorporating the DD524 for direct digital mastering to my DAT machine. I was pretty unhappy when after telling me they would have a board in "any day now", PV stopped answering my calls. I was just as unhappy with Sunrize, who advertised the DD524, not as a vapourware product , but as a real on-the-shelves item. Short of sueing them (which would have probably not done me any good), there was nothing I could do but be incredibly angry. Neil. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From neil@drempel.org.uk Thu, 7 May 1998 19:44:29 +0000 (GMT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2493 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2501 (database) From: Neil Brewitt To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 20:44:00 Message-ID: <199805071944.TAA25724@crunch.drempel.org.uk> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA24609for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:14:11 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21639for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:56:10 +0200 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5ffb0be87b7a708e8af41fd341ed877b Status: O > Neil Brewitt wrote: > >1. Has anybody begun / completed reverse-engineering any or all of the > >Studio16 libraries? > > Hi Neil, > > I have disassembled the studio.library 3, the AD516 handler, Scala S16 EX > EX and the StudioOpen comand. I haven't really had the time to go through > the sources yet. Another thing that can make it problematic is that the > studio.library put its args on the stack (functions and parameters can't be > traced by patching the library as this would change the stackpointer) so you > would be forced to parse every line in the disassembled source(s). There are > no fd, lvo nor include files for the v3 library (only old ones v1/v2 which > aren't compatible with 3.0). Yeah- I had figured this already. They sure do some stack-churning. :) Makes you wonder what compiler generated such strange code. I have been doing exactly as you say, disassmebling the library line-by-line. Yes, it does get tedious, particularly with my inexperience with 680x0 code. I have the relevant books and manuals, though, so although it's slow going at the moment, it should get easier as I learn the most common "features" of whatever compiled the code and other such stuff. > The basic for it is the same as for studio.library 2.0 AFAIU. That means a > call to add a module, antoher call to receive broadcasted messages, a third > call to allocate handler/channels and functions to handle messages and act > upon them when they arrive. Cleanup is the reverse order to other calls (I > take this on the fly so it might not be an exact recall of it..). > Anyway, it's quite simple and the things that need to be found is the LVO > for the calls and what parameters are put on the stack in what order. Yeah- it's a lot of donkey work, but Resource makes it much easier. > I won't have time to analyse the sources before after the summer atleast as > I have a few projects going, but if you feel the urge and motivation for > working on this I could send you a copy of what I have (not much other than > disassembled sources..). To be honest, I doubt that they will have much use to me right now- I've been commenting things which weren't obvious to me but will be obvious to every 680x0 guru; I would maybe like your best-guess at which functions are at which ordinal in the jump table. That could be another point of view which I could compare with the list of vectors I'm collecting. > >2. What is the potential use of having an API and / or pseudo source code > >for any / all of the libraries? Specifically, I would target studio.library > >as being the most "interesting" for me, but this may not be the general > >case. > > A while before I started on the Studio16 add project I created a library > called kstudio.library (just the worktitle.. :). It was a library interface > that invoked arexx commands. It could have worked nicly playing and > triggering files from HD - the latest version would also record and handle > SMPTE, but due to a bug in the Studio 16's arexx interface (closing files > while playing) it was terminated. Yeah. I saw your stuff (and contacted you :)) a while ago, when I was working somewhere else, and while I appreciated what you'd developed, I didn't see it as being low level enough to be of use to a "serious" programmer, if you see what I mean. Since that time, I've developed enough commercial applications to realise exactly what I want out of this and exactly how I should go about it. I just need amiga experience (and time, lots of time :)). > Later I also did some research on the ADSP2105 dsp chip to target the > hardware directly. I managed to write a DSP download program to download DPS > object code to the ADSP onboard, but I wasn't able to enable sound even if > the code seem to work (reading the sample and spend the time it was suppose > to on playing it). Dr. Fuller provided me with some docs on the Studio 16 > DSP environment and I got a book on the ADSP21xx from a person on the list > (Brian Fields), but there are no ADSP assemblers on the Amiga (I don't have > a PC) and I would need to learn the ADSP21xx assembler language from > scratch. Not having a PC could be a problem. :) The PDF file for the 21xx series has lots of interesting information- I figured someone would have written a pdf-viewing utility on the amiga by now. No? I would certainly like to investigate the chances of writing some 2105 code, however. I think that, with an amiga, a win95 machine, and an OpenBSD/i386 machine here (and soon a Linux/i386 P60), I should have a shooting chance at being able to get a compiler or cross-compiler. :) > Dr. Ben Fuller also mentioned he _might_ write a driver for AHI, or look at > the AHI API docs. We can wait and see how the status on that is currently. I think we could wait forever for something from the ex-Sunrize people. It's a shame they build superb hardware and couldn't stay in business (because they didn't release SDK's to developers, of course ;)). It really kills me- the software could (and did at the time) beaten anything around at that price point on any platform, but it all went badly wrong. > I personally would like to see a generic library from Ben to access the > hardware directly with memory buffering. This way other people could pick it > up from there and write an AHI driver based on that library (overhead is no > problem here) and the library could also be used in other applications that > doesn't need/want to support AHI etc.: You have crystallized another idea of mine. That would indeed be cool, possibly cooler than giving people the API to Studio16. > >4. Does anybody know how current the available SDKs are? I was told by Todd > >Modjeski around two years ago that "there was no real SDK for Studio16 > >v3.xx, and all the old SDK's are out of date now.". > > There are none (atleast at this time..). It's in the head of the developers. It figures. > I guess we have been focusing on v3 of the library so much we haven't been > able to see other options. Why not use v2 of the library if sound in/out is > the only features we want to get ? It is doucmented and there are several > example sources on who to use it. We could even 'zap' it to rename it to > something else so that there won't be total system confusion. Just a thought > anyway.. :-) If anyone wants to make the release version of Studio16_2.0 available, it probably would help a little if I could play with it. Maybe it should go on the web page with the other versions? > For docs on the Studio 16 file formats look up the archive Studio16add.lha > on Aminet, full path: Argh! No thanks. ;) I spent many hours once figuring out all I needed to know about the file format (I have some scribbled sheets of paper somewhere) so that I could write a standalone audio compressor (in AREXX!!) which was quite unbelievably slow and blew up the output when the input hit zero (It turned input 0x0 into output 0xff00 ;)). Wow, what terrifying memories. :) Thanks, Neil. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From MCKITTRM@Mattel.com Thu, 7 May 1998 15:26:57 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2502 (database) From: McKittrick, Mike T To: studio16 Subject: RE: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 23:26:01 Message-ID: <11C089E676D0D011A14C0080D80016218CFCEE@ESTWR56> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA24883for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:28:56 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21978for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:10:50 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 8fb2f4ae49742558dffc1319ab134d78 Status: O Neil wrote: Yeah- it's a lot of donkey work, but Resource makes it much easier. Are you talking about the disassembler for the Amiga called Resource? If so, do you have any idea how I can purchase it. Or, any idea how I can find out who may have it for sale? I've been looking for this item for sometime. I recall the magazine ads for it years ago and it was a bit pricey at that time. I'm sorry I didn't get it when I had the chance. Thanks and regards, Mike ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Thu, 07 May 1998 23:46:03 +0000 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2501 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2503 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Fri, 8 May 98 00:46:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA25197for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 22:44:44 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22368for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:26:10 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 906b82f7be4b08df96970a996435db7b Status: O Hello Neil On 07-May-98, Neil Brewitt wrote: > lots of interesting information- I figured someone would have written a > pdf-viewing utility on the amiga by now. No? There is a port of a Unix Acrobat reader, but I found I got much better results using the proper Adobe reader on the Fusion emulator. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From syncom@mail.datanet.hu Fri, 08 May 1998 01:58:05 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2504 (database) From: Zsolt Kovacs To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Fri, 8 May 98 01:58:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA26443for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:06:22 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24421for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:47:31 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Syncom MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 24a7c91ef84b701846a6ef99c98278e7 Status: O Kenny wrote: >I personally would like to see a generic library from Ben to access the >hardware directly with memory buffering. This way other people could pick it >up from there Absolutely, like with the Toccata card. You get the toccata.library with the function calls like raw (double buffered) record/playback that you can call from your own software. If the Toccata wasn't so damned noisy by professional standards, it'd be a marvellous tool. >I guess we have been focusing on v3 of the library so much we haven't been >able to see other options. Why not use v2 of the library if sound in/out is >the only features we want to get ? It is doucmented and there are several >example sources on who to use it. Very true!!! We dub (lip-sync) movies in my company, and we use a custom- made controller program that controls S16 and a texteditor to display the text to be recorded and starts/stops S16 recording through Arexx. We do upwards of a thousand recordings a day in both our studios, and have come to find that S16 version 2.08 reacts a lot faster. V3 takes longer (sometimes even half a second!!!) to release a file after play/record to AmigaDOS, while v2.08 always does that within 40 milliseconds. For mixdown, the Cuelist in v3 is a joy to work with, but for simple rec/pb v2 is more than perfect. Zsolt Kovacs "Necessities of life: food, water and SMPTE." ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Thu, 7 May 1998 21:11:00 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2505 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Fri, 8 May 98 02:11:00 Message-ID: <199805072113_MC2-3C4D-291D@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA28985for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:14:28 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26201for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:55:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 115b141da001d116103ccb10431368e6 Status: RO M a n n y , Thank you for your help. ``What I meant was using a [channel?] buffer of 512 KB with 2 tracks studio 16 will allocate 1MB with 4 tracks 2 MB and so on.'' Allocate 1MB of what? ``...check your cue list and see how many tracks you have loaded...'' The problem I'm having is happening during recording, not playback. I am not sure, but I don't think the Cue List has anything to do with recording, does it? -How much ram do you have? The zips are full -- 16 fast, 2 chip -What size of HD and/or partition are you using? a 100mb partition, big block. Sometime when I get this working I'll make it bigger. -Are you using the A3000 scsi controller? Yes. If you mean my HD is plugged into my motherboard. -Do you have one accelerator card with memory on it? No. Just the AD516. There is something else that you can try, in preferences is a check box (Use Extended Memory) I am using it. To reiterate, I am having problems with recording. I seem to be only able to record from only a few seconds to up to 45 seconds or so and then the recording stops and no more can be done until I reboot. This happens at any sampling rate. So far I'm just able to experiment with the supplied samples and the cue list. I look forward to the recording part. Thanks again for your hints. .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Brrr@aol.com Thu, 7 May 1998 22:03:07 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2506 (database) From: Brrr To: studio16 Subject: Zero-crossing point auto-location Date: Fri, 8 May 98 03:03:00 Message-ID: <68253c31.355267dc@aol.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA29779for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:04:02 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26957for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:45:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 83868e07b8bddda13ed88befa4a00f70 In a message dated 5/6/98 10:06:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, masquith@bellatlantic.net writes: << Neil Brewitt wrote: > 3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. >> What I would most like to see is easier, finer detail, waveform scrolling, on a fully zoomed in display, in order to find the zero crossing point (see below). (I'm not talking of audio "scrubbing", here, which is not implemented, and would truly be appreciated.) Also, an automatic zero- crossing point locate for all edits. This hasn't been mentioned, AFAIK, and it's probably the biggest failing of the software. Burr Huntington ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 07 May 98 23:57:35 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2497 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2509 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Don Cox Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Thu, 7 May 98 23:57:00 Message-ID: <332.431T1785T14373498@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA29852for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:05:49 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26987for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:47:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 41375589131fd2f42b78ee34bb55f99b Don Cox wrote: >>other than disassembled sources..). >I think it would be a good idea to mail these dissembled sources to >anyone on the list who thinks he is a good enough programmer to dig Or better yet, people should probably disassemble them self since I'm not sure if it's legal to distribute disassembled sources.. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From turk@gulftel.com Thu, 07 May 1998 21:45:31 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2503 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2510 (database) From: CMM To: studio16 Subject: Re[2]: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Fri, 8 May 98 04:45:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA00391for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:47:32 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27463for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:27:57 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: CMM MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: eef12159fb0e45ed7ecc20b1fb42c580 On 07-May-98, Don Cox wrote: > Hello Neil > > On 07-May-98, Neil Brewitt wrote: > >> lots of interesting information- I figured someone would have > written a >> pdf-viewing utility on the amiga by now. No? > > There is a port of a Unix Acrobat reader, but I found I got much > better results using the proper Adobe reader on the Fusion emulator. > > There are two uploaded recently to Aminet Pdf2ASCII and xpdf5. regards, ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 08 May 98 04:44:59 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2501 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2512 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Neil Brewitt Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Fri, 8 May 98 04:44:01 Message-ID: <1734.432T2966T2845167@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA01154for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:17:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27834for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:59:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6b7e05292d801af35a539ab39b909ad7 Neil Brewitt wrote: >> a PC) and I would need to learn the ADSP21xx assembler language from >> scratch. >Not having a PC could be a problem. :) The PDF file for the 21xx series has >lots of interesting information- I figured someone would have written a >pdf-viewing utility on the amiga by now. No? Sure, there are several already (ghostscript, xpfd, pdfview.. :) I have looked at the specsheets btw. If we could take advantage of the dsp it could open for lots of possibilities. Realtime effects is one :) >OpenBSD/i386 machine here (and soon a Linux/i386 P60), I should have a >shooting chance at being able to get a compiler or cross-compiler. :) Check out Analog Device's homepage. They have some of of this stuff. :) >> There are none (atleast at this time..). It's in the head of the >> developers. >It figures. In the meantime that seems like it wasn't the whole truth.. ;) >If anyone wants to make the release version of Studio16_2.0 available, it >probably would help a little if I could play with it. Maybe it should go on >the web page with the other versions? I know Dhomas Trenn has a support page for Studio 16. The 2.0 docs are available from there. The page is at: http://www.youngmonkey.ca/hands/files/sunrize/index.html >> For docs on the Studio 16 file formats look up the archive Studio16add.lha >Argh! No thanks. ;) I spent many hours once figuring out all I needed to >know about the file format (I have some scribbled sheets of paper >somewhere) so that I could write a standalone audio compressor (in AREXX!!) >which was quite unbelievably slow and blew up the output when the input hit >zero (It turned input 0x0 into output 0xff00 ;)). Wow, what terrifying >memories. :) :-D re, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 08 May 98 06:38:02 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2514 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Maurizio Ciccione Subject: Re: AudioLabs Date: Fri, 8 May 98 06:38:00 Message-ID: <804.432T135T3981688@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA03009for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 05:35:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30507for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:16:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7b2c26e6f9e908b37ba9942f414544b6 Maurizio Ciccione wrote: >>This should be possible as the smpte sinc(s) is stored in the library base >Excellent suggestion, Kenny! Just gave a look and found the CurrentSmpteTime >field in struct StudioBase. >Do you have any idea if Studio16 must be running to get that field updated? >Any chance that just opening the library be enough? ------------------------- Hi Maurizio, long time no see.. Did the SMPTE read work ok ? I have another way to get the current SMPTE time: If you open the library and use this function: _LVOsmpte_QueryTime=-948 ;no args needed, this uses current smpte sink It will return the current SMPTE in D0 (long) as I might have some interresting news according to docs on the v3 library in near future. I will announce on the ML. regards, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Fri, 8 May 1998 08:48:22 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2516 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: Plug-in system via Arexx Date: Fri, 8 May 98 00:48:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id GAA04607for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:54:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00208for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:35:27 +0200 X-ROUTED: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:54:10 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b8358ccf8c4d653edcc30938fd63053d On Thu, May 7, 1998, at 10:03 PM, Brrr wrote: > In a message dated 5/6/98 10:06:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > masquith@bellatlantic.net writes: > > << Neil Brewitt wrote: > > 3. What do Studio16 users want implemented most of all. >> > An Arexx Plugin system, so we can implant tools like Limiting/Compression, Echo, Delay etc etc via external programs. Rene'(DSP) Schaap _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 42 72 0 FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 66 31 7 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 08 May 98 11:00:38 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2517 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Fri, 8 May 98 11:00:00 Message-ID: <957.432T1913T6604078@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id JAA08121for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:05:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03252for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 10:47:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 864549124c8e3f18d5df6b18f4a2cd0e Hi all! I am pleased to announce that I have managed to play/record sound through the Studio 16 environment, setting parameters and multitrigg samples (eg. stereo samples). This is with version *3* of the system! This means the following: a) we can start planning what modules we want/need/can replace b) we can take advantage of the Studio 16 environment for other applications But before any concret will be made I will go through some docs I got from dr. Ben Fuller last night and create a 'stub' library for the functions in studio.library v4.x (Studio16 3.x) so I can create new autodocs, FDs and LVOs. I will also have to go through the gui interface docs so we can make modules 'compatible' with the Studio 16 look to some degree atleast. This will take a while, as I have mentioned earlier I have a few other projects going that I need to finish, but I will now put the Studio 16 progress at a higher pri. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 8 May 1998 08:30:22 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2493 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2519 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Consolidation of info Date: Fri, 8 May 98 13:30:00 Message-ID: <19980508.083024.4990.1.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA13697for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:32:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08953for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:12:45 +0200 References: <4181.431T567T1732316@bgnett.no> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-12 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d16e827c1d17b7fcb5871accefda3d8d >I have disassembled the studio.library 3, the AD516 handler, Scala S16 I wanted to let every one know who might be working on any thing for S16, API's or AHI that I want to help out with programming. Just mail me direct at tsilvey@mail.egleston.org or at this juno.com address. Meanwhile I'm still working out a new sequencer interface, so if any one has any ideals for the user interface look they would like to see, let me know. I can't say it will wind up looking like what you had in mind, but I want to get as much input as possible. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From frank_@datasoft.com.br Fri, 08 May 1998 09:56:32 -0300 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2517 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2521 (database) From: Francisco Rabay Junior To: studio16 Subject: Re: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Fri, 8 May 98 13:56:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA14543for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:56:44 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09291for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:38:47 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 3f4f07ef673af68df164f930ce160c41 Hello Kenny On 08-May-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Hi all! > > I am pleased to announce that I have managed to play/record sound through > the Studio 16 environment, setting parameters and multitrigg samples (eg. > stereo samples). This is with version *3* of the system! > > This means the following: > > a) we can start planning what modules we want/need/can replace > b) we can take advantage of the Studio 16 environment for other > applications > > But before any concret will be made I will go through some docs I got from > dr. Ben Fuller last night and create a 'stub' library for the functions in > studio.library v4.x (Studio16 3.x) so I can create new autodocs, FDs and > LVOs. I will also have to go through the gui interface docs so we can make > modules 'compatible' with the Studio 16 look to some degree atleast. > > This will take a while, as I have mentioned earlier I have a few other > projects going that I need to finish, but I will now put the Studio 16 > progress at a higher pri. > > > - Kenny Congratulations!!!!!! Is there any chance that Studio16 will work with SamplitudeOpus from Sek'd ? Thanks, Francisco > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) Regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Fri, 8 May 1998 17:55:40 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2522 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Fri, 8 May 98 09:55:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA19793for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:57:33 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10420for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:37:36 +0200 X-ROUTED: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:57:06 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMAIL (Amiga eMail), Version 1.40 (October 10 1997), (c) 1997 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0f8ef021c2673ab1c1421061427da6c5 On Thu, May 8, 1998, at 11:00 AM, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Hi all! > > I am pleased to announce that I have managed to play/record sound through > the Studio 16 environment, setting parameters and multitrigg samples (eg. > stereo samples). This is with version *3* of the system! > > This means the following: > > a) we can start planning what modules we want/need/can replace > b) we can take advantage of the Studio 16 environment for other > applications > > But before any concret will be made I will go through some docs I got from > dr. Ben Fuller last night and create a 'stub' library for the functions in > studio.library v4.x (Studio16 3.x) so I can create new autodocs, FDs and > LVOs. I will also have to go through the gui interface docs so we can make > modules 'compatible' with the Studio 16 look to some degree atleast. > > This will take a while, as I have mentioned earlier I have a few other > projects going that I need to finish, but I will now put the Studio 16 > progress at a higher pri. > > > - Kenny Wow Kenny, this IS great news. Does did mean we can have AHI and Prostation support, or can we have more FX in The FX window ????? Tell us more, i am hanging on your Lips. SeeYaa, Rene'(DSP) Schaap _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 42 72 0 FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 66 31 7 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From frank_@datasoft.com.br Fri, 08 May 1998 13:06:10 -0300 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2521 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2523 (database) From: Francisco Rabay Junior To: studio16 Subject: Re[2]: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Fri, 8 May 98 17:06:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA20028for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 16:06:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10612for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:48:02 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e1317c55f8ab75f710e1b90973527dbc Hello Kenny and everyone at this list, *Below is the answer of my requests from Marc Albrecht,* the person who is directly involved on SamplitudeOpus development. He is a very dedicated and interested person on Amiga enviroment. So, please all the people who really cares about this issue, I mean Studio16 users and programmers, let's try to help Marc on this. His statement is very clear: IN A FEW HOURS OF WORK!!!!!!! he can be well defined a source code. so let us help him on what he needs, to our own benefits. I am actually an user of two AD516 cards, One Prelude card and one Toccata audio card. SamplitudeOpus is a very nice Recorder Sampler to the Amiga. Perhaps even Mr.Fuller can help him. We must think that in our Amiga community we need to be united and must work with solidarity. Only this way we can grow up again. Best Regards, Francisco Rabay Junior Brasil (South America) Moin, Francisco Rabay Junior, > Do you think it is possible to give support to the AD516 Studio card? Yes. We stand to our word that EVERY soundcard that has a market on the Amiga can be supported. We do need some API, some source code etc, which is all well defined and should be able to do within a few hours of work. Please - if you see a possibility of getting in contact with Studio16 programmers who _want_ to have Samplitude Opus support, let me know and tell them my EMail ad. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Albrecht ---------------------------------------------------- //Hard- and Software Developer // A.C.T. Germany // ----------------------------------------------------- #http://www.act-net.com/staff/Marc_Albrecht.html# Fido: 2:241/205 S-Mail: M. Albrecht - Seth 2 - 21769 Lamstedt Germany Tel. : +49-4773-8910-73 Fax: +49-4773-8910-72 ----------------------------------------------------- \\#http://www.act-net.com# \\ Amiga and more \\ ------------------------------------------------------ On 08-May-98, Francisco Rabay Junior wrote: > Hello Kenny > > On 08-May-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> I am pleased to announce that I have managed to play/record sound through >> the Studio 16 environment, setting parameters and multitrigg samples (eg. >> stereo samples). This is with version *3* of the system! >> >> This means the following: >> >> a) we can start planning what modules we want/need/can replace >> b) we can take advantage of the Studio 16 environment for other >> applications >> >> But before any concret will be made I will go through some docs I got from >> dr. Ben Fuller last night and create a 'stub' library for the functions in >> studio.library v4.x (Studio16 3.x) so I can create new autodocs, FDs and >> LVOs. I will also have to go through the gui interface docs so we can make >> modules 'compatible' with the Studio 16 look to some degree atleast. >> >> This will take a while, as I have mentioned earlier I have a few other >> projects going that I need to finish, but I will now put the Studio 16 >> progress at a higher pri. >> >> >> - Kenny > > > Congratulations!!!!!! > > Is there any chance that Studio16 will work with SamplitudeOpus from Sek'd ? > > > Thanks, > Francisco >> >> ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > Regards > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) Regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gmula@nwlink.com Fri, 08 May 1998 10:15:44 -0800 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2493 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2524 (database) From: Gary Mula To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Fri, 8 May 98 19:15:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA21837for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:19:32 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11431for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:59:38 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.3a [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9b44252d94e01c5ee8a40ceceb89ad45 On 06-May-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: >I personally would like to see a generic library from Ben to access >the >hardware directly with memory buffering. This way other people could >pick it >up from there and write an AHI driver based on that library (overhead >is no >problem here) and the library could also be used in other applications >that >doesn't need/want to support AHI etc.: > / AHI driver > / > generic library --- Other driver software > \ > \ Other applications seems logical--- >There are none (atleast at this time..). It's in the head of the >developers. >I guess we have been focusing on v3 of the library so much we haven't >been >able to see other options. Why not use v2 of the library if sound >in/out is >the only features we want to get ? It is doucmented and there are >several >example sources on who to use it. We could even 'zap' it to rename it >to >something else so that there won't be total system confusion. Just a >thought >anyway.. :-) I like it! Why not?! Though v3 was far beyond in developement, I recall v2 was very solid. -=gary=- -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Mula / /CALLEYE Productions/ / /The Dutchman/ Singer-Songwriter / Producer Seattle, Washington, USA Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 09 May 98 04:01:25 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2523 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2529 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Francisco Rabay Junior Subject: Re: Re[2]: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Sat, 9 May 98 04:01:00 Message-ID: <327.433T1269T2412962@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA02261for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:28:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16073for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 04:08:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9e7b5985b6a1ccca251eaea3242b08aa Francisco Rabay Junior wrote: Hi Francisco, sorry for the delay, I have taken a long nap - it's tuff to see _sunrise_ twice a day ;) >*Below is the answer of my requests from Marc Albrecht,* the person >who is directly involved on SamplitudeOpus development. Where can I find more information on SamplitudeOpus ? - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 09 May 98 04:03:39 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2524 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2530 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Gary Mula Subject: Re: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Sat, 9 May 98 04:03:00 Message-ID: <355.433T1992T2433797@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA02263for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:28:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16074for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 04:08:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 93445f5d6e7c0dc2a878e8a9a1de2f9f Gary Mula wrote: >>I guess we have been focusing on v3 of the library so much we haven't >>been able to see other options. Why not use v2 of the library if sound >I like it! Why not?! Though v3 was far beyond in developement, I >recall v2 was very solid. But when speaking of the sun, it seems like we now can use the v3 system after all :-) - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 09 May 98 03:53:40 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2522 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2531 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Rene' Schaap Subject: RE: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Sat, 9 May 98 03:53:00 Message-ID: <2161.433T2027T2333888@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA02262for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:28:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16072for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 04:08:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a2352c3dd92e63fa669e73b77de9ed1d Rene' Schaap wrote: >> stereo samples). This is with version *3* of the system! >Wow Kenny, this IS great news. >Does did mean we can have AHI and Prostation support, or can we have >more FX in The FX window ????? Hi René, We can /probably/ get an AHI driver, but the problem as mentioned before is that AHI buffers data from memory while Studio 16 from disk (that's ok really as they target different usages). The trick is to fool Studio 16 to think the memory buffer is a part of a Studio 16 file. That can be done by writing a special filehandler and do some fine timing to get continues sound. Possible, but not easy. More information about ProStation later.. About FX's - there is no problem to create new modules for Studio 16, but when it comes to realtime effects it will get more tricky as this need to dowload object code to the onboard DSP. The DSP is already in use by Studio 16 and I think that the DPS effects have to be integrated in the Studio 16 DSP 'driver' object. I don't think that is realistic. If Studio 16 doesn't need to be running the DSP can be used of course for this purpose. More realistic plugins for Studio 16 is a effect processing (non-realtime), new Mixer module and envelope editor and that sort of stuff. :-) However, I should take some reservation as I haven't yet verified that the module functions uses the same stucture as before (most likely they do). I know a few other people on the list has the same fd file I had a breakthrough with last night. If it's ok with you I would like to create a doc package which included a 'stub' library to access the studio.library by registers (overhead not noticable) [probably pluss some interface functions], a new standard autodoc and include files (lvo/protos/i/h etc). The initfunc of the stublibrary will also take care of initing of the environment, checking installation etc. We should probably get an overview of how many developers there are on the list that wants to contribute and in what area. Also, there will be some waiting as these things will take some time, but I think it secure the foundation a bit to know it's possible to go a step further. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 09 May 98 07:22:48 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2534 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: NewPlay Date: Sat, 9 May 98 07:22:00 Message-ID: <779.433T2424T4423877@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id GAA05765for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:50:40 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18427for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 07:54:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1b34424f90236bee988d5b2fd70d06e1 I wrote a small program called NewPlay. It replaces StudioOpen and StudioPlay (and is 1/6th of the size :). It plays stereo files and can optionally be triggered. It uses the system 3 of Studio 16. Demo/test purpose only. It does only work with Studio 16 samples. I was hoping some of you could download it from my web page and see if it runs well on your system. Note that Studio 16 must _not_ run (as applies to the old Studio#? comands due to resource allocation). I would appreciate feedback on my private email. USAGE: NewPlay dumps some info NewPlay SAMPLE_L SAMPLE_R plays both samples, or to trigger them with left mousebutton: NewPlay SAMPLE_L SAMPLE_R trigg Link: http://www.bgnett.no/~kenny/newfile (direct link to Amiga executable) Thanks, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 09 May 98 13:51:31 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2534 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2536 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Sat, 9 May 98 13:51:00 Message-ID: <463.433T1558T8313795@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA10425for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 11:56:33 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21281for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:37:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1e419757cce9310acae5955cda79177d Status: RO Kenny Nilsen wrote: Sorry guys, I have to make a few corrections: >Note that Studio 16 must _not_ run (as applies to... Not quite true. Actually it runs fine along with Studio 16, but if you started NewPlay first, Studio 16 won't start unless you use the StudioClose command and then flushes the libs (eg. "c:avail flush"). >Link: ..tt.no/~kenny/newfile ^^^^ This should be: http://www.bgnett.no/~kenny/newplay - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From frank_@datasoft.com.br Sat, 09 May 1998 09:56:55 -0300 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2529 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2537 (database) From: Francisco Rabay Junior To: studio16 Subject: Re[4]: NEWS: Breakthroughs Date: Sat, 9 May 98 13:56:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA11495for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 12:57:24 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21935for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:38:51 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 2be58afdd674244ad157a20f6c83a235 Hello Kenny Thanks for answering my requests, On 09-May-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Francisco Rabay Junior wrote: > > Hi Francisco, > > sorry for the delay, I have taken a long nap - it's tuff to see _sunrise_ > twice a day ;) No problem. > >> *Below is the answer of my requests from Marc Albrecht,* the person >> who is directly involved on SamplitudeOpus development. > > Where can I find more information on SamplitudeOpus ? > You can talk directly to Thomas Wenzel or Marc Albreicht from ACT Germany Marc is waiting for a word from you. He asked me to put Studio 16 programmers in contact with him. His private E-mail: marc_Albrecht@act-net.com His Company: ACT http://www.act-net.com Thank you, Francisco > > - Kenny > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) Regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Brrr@aol.com Sat, 9 May 1998 11:32:50 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2539 (database) From: Brrr To: studio16 Subject: Zero crossing-point autolocation Date: Sat, 9 May 98 16:32:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA14022for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:36:36 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23278for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 17:16:15 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 85b4e818007b37b551b536ebfc820b51 I think this got lost during Kenny's great breakthrough announcement...any comments, or suggestions. What I'd like to see most is an automatic zero-crossing-point locate for all edits, positive-going to negative (or vice-versa). If that's not practical, faster subframe-level, detailed waveform scrolling (fully zoomed-in display) in order to find that zero-crossing-point easier, and more important, quicker. This hasn't been mentioned in the list, AFAIK, and it's a big failing of the software. (I'm not talking of audio "scrubbing", here, which also is not implemented, and desireable.) Burr Huntington ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Brrr@aol.com Sat, 9 May 1998 12:14:21 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2540 (database) From: Brrr To: studio16 Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Sat, 9 May 98 17:14:00 Message-ID: <8173123d.355480de@aol.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA14635for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 16:17:04 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23557for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 9 May 1998 17:57:23 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a61b9a8adefffb4fd0348f3b1f6ef51b In a message dated 5/9/98 7:58:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kenny@bgnett.no writes: << This should be: http://www.bgnett.no/~kenny/newplay >> Kenny, Still couldn't access this page using my pee-cee. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From turk@gulftel.com Sat, 09 May 1998 13:34:43 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2487 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2543 (database) From: CMM To: studio16 Subject: Re[3]: Consolidation of info, and some questions. Date: Sat, 9 May 98 20:34:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA04160for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:27:45 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02443for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:04:38 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview3 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: CMM MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ac78ca2aa9f3d435a5aee899caedfe19 On 06-May-98, AnDy wrote: > Hello Wayne > > > >> Count me in for the "whip around" I've got 50 UK if it goes >> ahead! > > Yes me too .. we need help on that . Thanks for doing that ! and Good luck > I'd be willing as well. I was also willing to pay for the AHI driver mentioned about a year ago. Nothing ever came of that! regards, Lee ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 10 May 98 05:07:11 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2540 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2544 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Brrr Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Sun, 10 May 98 05:07:00 Message-ID: <275.434T584T3072069@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA09299for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:25:00 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01900for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:52:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6eef4ffcd0bb2b388d654e0832a722a2 Brrr wrote: >Kenny, >Still couldn't access this page using my pee-cee. You're right. Weird, I set chmod flags to 744 for the file, is there other flags that must be set ? Ok, anyone who wants to give it a try can write me in private email and I will bulkmail it. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 10 May 98 05:05:10 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2539 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2545 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Brrr Subject: Re: Zero crossing-point autolocation Date: Sun, 10 May 98 05:05:00 Message-ID: <452.434T538T3052731@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA09345for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:26:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01899for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:52:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0bf9a77043ad94cde4e30260158a31d4 Brrr wrote: >What I'd like to see most is an automatic zero-crossing-point locate for all >edits, positive-going to negative (or vice-versa). [...] Hi Burr and all, just to make things clear: there can't be done anything on _existing_ modules. All features wanted must be made from scratch. That's why I hoped more people would forward ideas and opinions so it would be more legitimate to create new modules as they will involve some work. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 75223.671@compuserve.com Mon, 11 May 1998 07:57:25 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2546 (database) From: Steve Kusaba <75223.671@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: S16> Disgusting Audio Friends I Made ... Date: Mon, 11 May 98 12:57:00 Message-ID: <199805110759_MC2-3C8B-CBED@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA09683for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:35:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01239for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:45:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6971d1aa66355cdc840c77682bdd0ca3 Greenboy, <<<<<<<<<<<< So you wouldn't want a 20-bit 98dB s/n digital audio card that has a metal breakout box with 1/4" phone-jack inputs (2) and outputs (8), digital i/o, and sells for under $450? (THD <.005%, 20Hz-22kHZ, A-wght) Or the same with 8 balanced inputs (simultaneous), 10 balanced outs, word-clock sync, midi ports, onboard Motorola 56301 DSP (80mips), that allows real-time 24-bit mixing and effects without CPU-load, for under $900? >>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmm! These things sound wonderful enough but the Disgustigator is waiting to bite the person that comes in with a typical tone generator! I have looked high and low for a good deal on tone generators and they are all overpriced for the stinky performance they deliver. Give me a good budget and I will make a GOOD tone generator for a FAIR price. (Send the money cashiers check for 5million dollars for development) I will also not have the rotten exclusivity that Roland, Korg, Yamaha and all of the others do. You can buy it direct from me or any store in the world that wishes to carry them. How is that for a good deal? Steve ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From danv@colba.net Mon, 11 May 1998 13:05:59 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2544 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2547 (database) From: Daniel Vaillancourt To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Mon, 11 May 98 18:05:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA12514for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:08:25 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07672for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:48:33 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Me Myself and I inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id SAA07664 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9d7c1892178fd147c152785fc135fc9e Le 10-Mai-98, Kenny Nilsen à écrit : > Brrr wrote: > >Kenny, > >Still couldn't access this page using my pee-cee. > You're right. Weird, I set chmod flags to 744 for the file, is there other > flags that must be set ? > Ok, anyone who wants to give it a try can write me in private email and I > will bulkmail it. Hi Kenny, I have try your program : it's fantastic. But if I can, may I suggest you to add a feature to stop the sample playing by adding a CLI ctrl C check for example. And for the ease of people you can file attach your progam to a message. it's only about 2K. bye, and thank again for your effort to keep Sunrize product alive ... -- Daniel Vaillancourt Vice-président danv@colba.net Club Amiga du Québec ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 11 May 98 20:26:22 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2547 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2549 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Daniel Vaillancourt Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Mon, 11 May 98 20:26:00 Message-ID: <510.435T1115T12263540@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA14681for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:36:23 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09085for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:16:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7576d9a617691e4afc7861bb8a06dd50 Daniel Vaillancourt wrote: >you to add a feature to stop the sample playing by adding a CLI ctrl C check >for example. Hi Daniel, NewPlay is merly a private 'pilot' project to test the v3 functions. I have planned to build on it and extend it further. Next up will be a GUI for it with a filerequester and a 'stop' button. >And for the ease of people you can file attach your progam to a message. >it's only about 2K. It's tempty, but no messages should have MIME attachments on the ML. regards, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From manny11@idirect.com Mon, 11 May 1998 20:07:33 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2505 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2550 (database) From: manuel marques To: charles hess Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Mon, 11 May 98 16:07:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA22196for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 00:16:25 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14413for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:55:49 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1283ad6c76be94d57faffcbe1e59a641 On 08-May-98, charles hess wrote: >``What I meant was using a [channel?] buffer of 512 KB with 2 tracks studio >16 will >allocate 1MB with 4 tracks 2 MB and so on.'' >Allocate 1MB of what? 1MB of memory. >``...check your cue list and see how many tracks you have loaded...'' >The problem I'm having is happening during recording, not playback. I am >not sure, but I don't think the Cue List has anything to do with recording, >does it? Memory is allocated on studio16 startup so although you are only recording your plyback setup will determine the memory that will be reserved. As log as your channel buffer isn't bigger than 512KB you should be ok ever with 8 channels >-How much ram do you have? The zips are full -- 16 fast, 2 chip >-What size of HD and/or partition are you using? a 100mb partition, big >block. Sometime when I get this working I'll make it bigger. >-Are you using the A3000 scsi controller? Yes. If you mean my HD is plugged >into my motherboard. >-Do you have one accelerator card with memory on it? No. Just the AD516. >There is something else that you can try, in preferences is a check box (Use >Extended Memory) I am using it. >To reiterate, I am having problems with recording. I seem to be only able >to record from only a few seconds to up to 45 seconds or so and then the >recording stops and no more can be done until I reboot. This happens at any >sampling rate. Did you try to use another slot for th card? I think that either the studio16 libraries, or the handler are given you problems, some of them might be old versions, just delete them an reinstall them. Once a had a similar problem, and the way I solved it was by deleting all the studio16 files and installing them again. Manny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From danv@colba.net Tue, 12 May 1998 00:04:52 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2549 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2551 (database) From: Daniel Vaillancourt To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: NewPlay Date: Tue, 12 May 98 05:04:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id EAA25871for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 04:06:45 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17391for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 12 May 1998 05:47:18 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Me Myself and I inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id FAA17388 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: f09925f774467d1420c923a8574e0375 Le 11-Mai-98, Kenny Nilsen à écrit : > Hi Daniel, > NewPlay is merly a private 'pilot' project to test the v3 functions. I have > planned to build on it and extend it further. Next up will be a GUI for it > with a filerequester and a 'stop' button. All right, good to hear it. If I can help you in any manner, let me know. I've done some program for my personal use in assembler, C and C++. bye, and thank again ... -- Daniel Vaillancourt Vice-président danv@colba.net Club Amiga du Québec ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 13 May 98 20:54:29 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2553 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: ANNOUNCE: NewPlay 1.0 and "SuperModel" Date: Wed, 13 May 98 20:54:00 Message-ID: <1838.437T1492T12543085@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA11111for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 19:10:34 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17956for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 13 May 1998 20:47:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 15fa0a678b4add049075034876c4ec6c I have just uploaded the following package to AmiNet. It should be available in a day or so. This new version contains a GUI instead. Short: Sampleplayer for Studio 16/AD516/AD1012 Uploader: kenny@bgnett.no Author: kenny@bgnett.no Type: mus/play Requires: Studio 16 V3, AD516 or AD1012 Version: 1.0ß mailto:kenny@bgnett.no $VER: NewPlay 1.0ß (13.05.98) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NewPlay --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Created by Kenneth "Kenny" Nilsen (kenny@bgnett.no) Copyright (C) 1998 by Digital Surface. This document also contains description on the patch SuperModel. WHAT IS NEWPLAY ? ----------------- NewPlay is a tool that can play Studio 16 samples, both mono and stereo, through the AD516/AD1012 cards. It uses the Studio 16 V3 environment. NewPlay consist of a GUI which allow you to select sample, play and stop. NewPlay does not require Studio 16 to run. Features: - Dynamic channel allocation - Preloading of samples -> instant play - Automatic reloading after done play or stop - Filerequester to choose sample - Autodetects if sample belongs in a filecouple (stereo) or is single - Simple GUI (one for MagicWB and one plain, same layout) with hotkeys. - Does automatic init of Studio 16 environment and removing of it if started without Studio 16 running. - Can be started and used together with Studio 16. - Pops up at Workbench using either MagicWB look or plain look. This software is currently BETA. Use at own risk! SuperModel - the Studio 16 GUI enhancer. ---------------------------------------- SuperModel enhances the Studio 16 GUI by using thin lines in windows and on text gadgets. More info in archive. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fdiebel@bartok.emrl.com Wed, 13 May 1998 12:25:14 -0800 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2530 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2554 (database) From: Floyd Diebel To: studio16 Subject: an interesting thing. Date: Wed, 13 May 98 21:25:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA11437for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 19:26:54 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18252for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:07:46 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [040] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Experimental Media Research Laboratory MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c9f26cfe2fc897a90143649b195fb2dd i was in an interesting situation today. i was working with a client on the final mixing of music for a television commercial, and we were both advocating different approaches. both the mixes were fairly complex. so, i had an idea. i went in to the Studio16_3:Apps drawer and made a copy of Cuelist, naming it Cuelist2. i was able to have two different cuelists open at the same time, so we could discuss our mixes, change them, and compare. all i had to do was turn off/on the cuelists depending on which one we wanted to listen to. this is the same way i was able to use the v3.0 +3db meters from within v3.01. i also put a copy of dirwork in the same drawer, making it available from within studio16. anyways, this idea with the cuelists truly saved the day here, and made for a quicker, more professional mix. just thought i'd share. . . -f -- fdiebel@bartok.emrl.com a/v composition and engineering. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Wed, 13 May 1998 16:07:00 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2555 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: RE: Recording trouble... Date: Wed, 13 May 98 21:07:00 Message-ID: <199805131608_MC2-3CDA-D338@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA12290for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 20:10:29 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19496for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:50:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: f774c714692860fa9db41e0bb2144258 M a n n y , ``Did you try to use another slot for th card? I think that either the studio16 libraries, or the handler are given you problems, some of them might be old versions, just delete them an reinstall them. Once a had a similar problem, and the way I solved it was by deleting all the studio16 files and installing them again.'' I am going to try all of that along with installing v. 3.01. Thanks for the advice. I'll let you know how it goes! .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Wed, 13 May 1998 22:09:29 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2554 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2556 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: an interesting thing. Date: Thu, 14 May 98 03:09:00 Message-ID: <19980513.221850.9630.4.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA17845for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:14:54 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27534for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:55:28 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-11 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4e0ea66912410c5dcade7735e0bf72e9 >i was in an interesting situation today. >advocating different approaches. both the mixes were fairly complex. >i was able to have two different cuelists open at the same time, so we that is an excellent approach. I could have used that many times to work out mixes and projects, but nerver thought of it. I don't think I would have thought S16 would have worked that way. Thanks for the tip, It will definitly go to good use. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From sag@cae.ca Fri, 15 May 1998 17:03:36 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2559 (database) From: Serge A Guilbert To: studio16 Subject: Phantom SMPTE -Reply Date: Fri, 15 May 98 22:03:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA12184for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 21:22:33 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07877for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 15 May 1998 22:59:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5b3dd4a9263ab82ccd0b5eb070045edc Hello Jonathan; Don't know if you've had much activity on this. I have Dr. T's Phantom box plugged into my A2000. The s/w stopped working somewhere between my 68030 to 68060 upgrade, and/or WB2.1 to WB3.1 upgrade. I too have the same crashing problem as you. I can get the s/w to run when I boot off the WB1.3 diskettes. I'm pretty sure the s/w is o/s dependent, as opposed to 68xxx dependent, although I can't say for sure because I have a hard time running my WB1.3 unless I disable my 68060 accel card (natch). I have the ROM Switcher installed, but it seems to conflict with soft-reboot on my accel card. The h/w box still works with B&P. The only use for the Phantom s/w would be to SMTPE stripe your tape. If you can find another way to stripe your tape, the rest should be pretty transparent, because the MIDI half works fine. In fact, the MIDI/SMPTE conversion is processed inside the box, so that works too. Like I said, the only part which doesn't work is the tape striping part (which requires the Phantom s/w). Dr. T's went the way of the dodo bird a while ago. It might have been swallowed up by another firm (Mark Of The Unicorn?? MAYBE...). Regardless, don't bother looking for more recent s/w. The Phantom module included in the B&P Accessories is the same version as the one that shipped with the Phantom h/w. Hope this helps. Sounding off; Serge A. Guilbert, B.Eng CAE Electronics, Flight Simulators, Sound Group (514)341-6780 x4129 sag@cae.ca ________________________________________________________ A Wise Old Man Once Told Me: "Go Away!!!". And So, I Did ________________________________________________________ >>> Jonathan Neisch 19/04/98 07:36am >>> I hope this isn't too far off topic... I've used a Phantom SMPTE interface on a 68000 Amiga, but would like to connect it to a 68040 Amiga. The support software crashes (the system) on 040's! Has anyone found a patch for this? Does anyone know what became of Dr. T's, the designers of the Phantom? Thanks for any insights. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tdavis@idirect.com Wed, 20 May 1998 22:55:03 -0400 (EDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2563 (database) From: tdavis To: studio16 Subject: Still active? Date: Thu, 21 May 98 03:55:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (root@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA11520for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:52:08 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11307for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:48:36 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 74751c05067dc87b25c4de36abc9cf7b Status: RO Its been a couple of weeks since I received anything from this list, have I be uncerimoniously removed or is everyone on vacation? Ted ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 74667.3434@compuserve.com Thu, 21 May 1998 23:12:54 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2564 (database) From: charles hess <74667.3434@compuserve.com> To: studio16 Subject: Still active? Date: Fri, 22 May 98 04:12:01 Message-ID: <199805212315_MC2-3DC9-6E4@compuserve.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA01429for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 03:17:52 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09640for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 05:16:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c9e39c07987a77128e266348d1256c90 T e d , ``Its been a couple of weeks since I received anything from this list, have I been unceremoniously removed or is everyone on vacation?'' I think your second guess might be correct. I've been wondering the same thing. .Greetings from W. Reading, PA!! .Charlie Hess -- Team *AMIGA* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From ImJohn@worldnet.att.net Fri, 22 May 1998 04:42:10 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2564 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2565 (database) From: John Rice To: studio16 Subject: Re: Still active? Date: Fri, 22 May 98 12:42:00 Message-ID: <35656492.F6C97EE5@worldnet.att.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA13636for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:38:05 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19456for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:36:53 +0200 Organization: Ib Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199805212315_MC2-3DC9-6E4@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: dc41d68c590627c8ad1a50ac0c246787 charles hess wrote: > T e d , > > ``Its been a couple of weeks since I received anything from this list, have > I been unceremoniously removed or is everyone on vacation?'' > > I think your second guess might be correct. > > I've been wondering the same thing. It seems like it's either 'rapture' or 'the great flood' around here! ;-) ImJohn@worldnet.att.net .......I play drums. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From bygarcia@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sat, 23 May 1998 07:07:33 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2563 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2566 (database) From: Luis Garcia To: studio16 Subject: Master ISO 2.0 Buffer under Run HELP ANYONE Date: Sat, 23 May 98 12:07:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA11921for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:05:40 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15472for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:06:19 +0200 Disposition-Notification-To: Luis Garcia Importance: High X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5f28627156afaa1ca222cacdc5993344 Hello, everyone let me just say thank god for this mailing list it has really kept me and my Amiga's alive.. has anyone had trouble with Master ISO V2.0 with buffer under run? I'm try to record at disk at once and just before i get to 10% of the recording i start seeing the buffer emptying and then i see error recording buffer under run. I've call asimware and they told me to make sure reselection is on for all units on the scsi chain which i did with no help. My system is an A4000T 25mhz with Recoh 6200s. I have also tried dumping to the hardrive with no success please HELP Anyone.. Kind Regards L. Garcia Cd-rw. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From danv@colba.net Sat, 23 May 1998 15:11:41 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2566 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2567 (database) From: Daniel Vaillancourt To: Luis Garcia Subject: Re: Master ISO 2.0 Buffer under Run HELP ANYONE Date: Sat, 23 May 98 20:11:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA20999for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:15:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23050for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 21:14:50 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Me Myself and I inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id VAA23046 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 092be0f56128f37a036bbf706ae57566 Le 23-Mai-98, Luis Garcia à écrit : > has anyone had trouble with Master ISO V2.0 with buffer under run? No, My only problem is when I write a CDDA disk my scsi host adapter fall in lockup. > I've call asimware and they told me to make sure reselection is on for all > units on the scsi chain which i did with no help. My system is an A4000T 25mhz > with Recoh 6200s. I have also tried dumping to the hardrive with no success > please HELP Anyone.. Go to the asimware web page, http://www.asimware.com and join the mailing list for MasterISO. -- Daniel Vaillancourt Vice-président danv@colba.net Club Amiga du Québec ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Brrr@aol.com Sat, 23 May 1998 15:20:07 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2568 (database) From: Brrr To: studio16 Subject: Re: Master ISO 2.0 Buffer under Run HELP ANYONE Date: Sat, 23 May 98 20:20:00 Message-ID: <3c2f6231.35672168@aol.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA21103for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:21:17 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23235for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 21:21:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 3918001160a6f067144e877574052049 In a message dated 5/23/98 7:07:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bygarcia@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes: << I'm try to record at disk at once and just before i get to 10% of the recording i start seeing the buffer emptying and then i see error recording buffer under run. >> I have simply done "Track-at-once" recording with ISO 2, but I know that "Disc-at-once" is much more system/cpu intensive. Therfore, my only suggestion is to try the "Track-at-once" record and "finalize" the disc when you are finished. Burr Huntington ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From goodidea@aye.net Mon, 25 May 1998 12:30:52 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2540 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2571 (database) From: Mark Needham To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 meg simm Date: Mon, 25 May 98 08:30:01 Message-ID: <19980525123052.8DA8B20@aye.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA15719for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:36:34 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04325for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:33:48 +0200 Organization: GOOD IDEA! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Eucalyptus 1.0 (Release 0.2217) (27.4.98) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 39c4e501fb59ceaa950c92b9426fefb7 I can't remember who asked for it, but there is a 2 meg SIMM for sale (asking price $10) in the Macintosh section of Computers at EBay, www.ebay.com ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Thu, 28 May 1998 23:57:45 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2574 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: Mailling List Subject: SMPTE software ! Date: Thu, 28 May 98 15:57:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA24512for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:59:57 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13619for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:58:38 +0200 X-ROUTED: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:58:40 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 8334fe9a682008134b787364b5f49116 Hey, I there anyone there who knows how to start the SMPTE Out software from within Scala or InfoChannel ????? I wanna use the Scala machine as a Master with SMPTE - timecode Out and Midi TC Out. SeeYaa Rene'(DSP) Schaap _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 42 72 0 FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 66 31 7 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 29 May 98 23:41:58 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2574 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2580 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Rene' Schaap Subject: Re: SMPTE software ! Date: Fri, 29 May 98 23:41:01 Message-ID: <239.453T2940T14215305@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id KAA27116for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:54:12 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12922for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:52:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 79f5fe85354c8c3db476d8b0e1ca3527 Rene' Schaap wrote: >I there anyone there who knows how to start the SMPTE Out software from >within Scala or InfoChannel ????? Hi René, you can't. SmpteOut is GUI only and has no comandline nor arexx interface to control it. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 30 May 98 21:22:32 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2582 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: Fileformats Date: Sat, 30 May 98 21:22:00 Message-ID: <332.454T1641T12823354@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA18281for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 11:50:39 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29533for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:50:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c7e6f09037dae91d80439381852081de Is there anyone that want Studio 16 to support other formats than the built-in Studio16_1.0, Studio16_2.0, AIFF, RAW, SVX8 ? I was thinking of creating some other filters such as WAV and an enhanced version of the Studio 16 format. The new format would get support with a new editor as well. Progress based on feedback. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From animatho@sn.no Sun, 31 May 1998 17:44:58 +0200 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2582 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2583 (database) From: Thor Sivertsen To: studio16 Subject: Re: Fileformats Date: Sun, 31 May 98 16:44:01 Message-ID: <35717AFA.5A111EA@sn.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA22698for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 15:43:31 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01171for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 17:44:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <332.454T1641T12823354@bgnett.no> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 45c2b6d46b7bd94b3e6c63b1a27313b1 Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Is there anyone that want Studio 16 to support other formats than the > built-in Studio16_1.0, Studio16_2.0, AIFF, RAW, SVX8 ? > Hadde vært bra med støtte for wav så man kunne importere disse direkte. Thor ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Sun, 31 May 1998 11:55:35 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2582 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2584 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Fileformats Date: Sun, 31 May 98 16:55:00 Message-ID: <19980531.115548.9110.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA22757for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 15:48:26 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01340for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 17:49:46 +0200 References: <332.454T1641T12823354@bgnett.no> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: db9b401041e520ad672f043e92639b26 >Is there anyone that want Studio 16 to support other formats than the >built-in Studio16_1.0, Studio16_2.0, AIFF, RAW, SVX8 ? Absolutly a WAV format if you can pull it off. I could start using that today. thanks kenny troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gembp@shore.net Sun, 31 May 1998 12:28:22 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2585 (database) From: Brad To: studio16 Subject: Re: Fileformats Date: Sun, 31 May 98 17:28:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA23387for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 16:28:45 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02149for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 18:30:08 +0200 X-Sender: gembp@shell1.shore.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e4546cfe94e7ee120d8fbec84ba3bfe0 How about Newtek Flyer Audio Format... There is conversion software but it would be great to load directly into S-16 >Is there anyone that want Studio 16 to support other formats than the >built-in Studio16_1.0, Studio16_2.0, AIFF, RAW, SVX8 ? > >I was thinking of creating some other filters such as WAV and an enhanced >version of the Studio 16 format. The new format would get support with a new >editor as well. Progress based on feedback. > > >- Kenny > > >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial)