--- Log for 13.08.98 Server: babylon.beyondirc.net Channel: #Team*AMiGA --- Nick: @Darxide_TA Version: Dancer V4.10 Started: 23 hours and 56 minutes ago 01.59.18 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 03.59.21 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 04.55.18 Join gio [50] (gio1@gio1.port.net) 04.55.18 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o gio " by services.beyondirc.org () 04.55.26 Part gio 05.41.53 # * Dave_C oils the revolving door for all the driveby visitors 05.42.03 # 8^) 05.59.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.22.38 Join mustang65 [10] (eldor@ppp-151-164-42-31.eulstx.swbell.net) 07.23.11 Part mustang65 07.25.22 Join Arvid [0] (bobdavis@209-184-63-229.carrollsweb.com) 07.29.57 Quit Arvid (:Searching for Servalan) 07.59.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.43.00 Join Ogge [20] (~s-42324@dialup158-3-10.swipnet.se) 09.43.00 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Ogge " by services.beyondirc.org () 09.43.37 # hey dave 09.47.09 Quit Ogge (:Beam me up....) 09.59.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.26.16 Join Sterri [20] (jksterry@lon5-60.ukonline.co.uk) 10.26.34 # hello? 10.26.43 # Dave_C: you there? 10.26.54 # yes 10.27.02 # whassup Kyle? 10.27.22 # I just got a mail from "Tony Horgan" 10.32.49 # I've stayed away from the mags for the past year... 10.32.57 # they tend to be 2 months behind... 10.33.06 Join Gozlingo [0] (~me@modem72.krycek.kingston-internet.net) 10.33.06 # press lead-time and all 10.33.06 # hmm 10.33.11 # It's true 10.33.12 # Hi... 10.33.15 # CU Amiga is no more 10.33.17 # Hiya Goz 10.33.22 # What!??!?!?! 10.33.24 # Gozlingo 10.33.29 # Good thing I didn't send them any money 10.33.35 # Sterri: What about CU amiga?? 10.33.46 # Kyle: paste it to the channel 10.34.10 # or forward it to the mailing list 10.34.18 # I'll foward it. 10.34.56 # someone tell me :_ 10.35.50 Ctcp Ping on #Team*AMiGA from Gozlingo!~me@modem72.krycek.kingston-internet.net 10.36.06 # hello? 10.36.08 # sending 10.36.17 # (Fwd) Sad Announcement. 10.36.51 # Goz: I don't know, myself. BUt it appears that CU AMiGA has gone the way of IDG's AMiGA World 10.36.53 # which mailing list??? 10.36.57 # Team*AMiGA 10.37.43 # I wanna join thins mailing list :) 10.37.51 Join Ogge [20] (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 10.37.52 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Ogge " by services.beyondirc.org () 10.38.31 # hi everyone 10.39.02 # I don't want to buy the AF one, it's crap 10.39.24 #>> "faq ta-ml" by Dave_C (davecook@host245.internettport.net) 10.39.32 # there y'go Goz 10.40.13 # ha, already done, went to peake's site.. :) 10.41.01 # hmmm... yam's thrown a wobbler.. back in a sec.. 10.41.05 Quit Gozlingo (:) 10.41.46 # * Ogge ponders.. 10.41.51 Ctcp Ping on #Team*AMiGA from Ogge!~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se 10.42.09 # http://www.jokewallpaper.com/ 10.42.29 # recommended for AMiGA users / Microsoft haters 10.43.18 # heh 10.43.19 # anyone using shapeshifter here? 10.43.23 # I saw that in CU Amiga 10.45.04 # :) well i'm having some problems while formating a mac partition... 10.45.29 #>> 'seen' used by Dave_C (davecook@host245.internettport.net) [snoop prevented] 10.45.46 # ha... 10.45.50 # some help he was 10.45.58 # hehe 10.46.03 Join Gozlingo [0] (~me@modem72.krycek.kingston-internet.net) 10.46.06 # hi.. 10.46.16 # check w/ Cryto when he wakes up this afternoon 10.46.27 # wb gozlingo 10.46.36 # ok i will .. 10.46.59 # I'm waiting approval on the mailing list.. 10.47.21 # got the mail Dave_C ? 10.47.46 # got something to Team*AMiGA 10.48.45 # I see your asking about it, but didn't see the actual post 'Sad Day' 10.49.10 # you what? 10.49.19 Join [X_MaN] [100] (~Ramiga@fm-3-08.cytanet.com.cy) 10.49.19 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o [X_MaN] " by services.beyondirc.org () 10.49.34 # hey x... 10.49.40 # I see where you are asking if it's going away after Oct... but not the post you said you received 10.50.16 # <[X_MaN]> h iguys 10.50.33 # <[X_MaN]> hey did u guys see CU is closing? 10.50.46 # yes.. :> 10.50.47 # what? 10.50.49 # <[X_MaN]> Shit mag, but it doesnt deserve to close:( 10.51.08 # Dave_C: give the post a few more minutes 10.51.26 # <[X_MaN]> then again maybe it does deserve to close, but is still should not have to:( 10.51.48 # [X_MaN]: that leaves with ONE major UK Amiga mazagine. :( 10.52.29 # <[X_MaN]> Sterri:Well the news it carries is little to of no use to a proper net based user, but it services those who are not on the net:( 10.52.53 # :((( 10.53.07 # What precisely made it close.. money? 10.53.20 # <[X_MaN]> Money is not such an issue I guess 10.53.49 # <[X_MaN]> I think it has more to do with the fact its readership fell so heavily, and it stopped being supported by major shops 10.54.04 # oh well.. maybe there will be another one. 10.54.06 # <[X_MaN]> It was no longer sold here for 6 months now 10.54.15 # I doubt it tho.. 10.54.16 # I missent the teamamiga mail 10.54.24 # X_Man: where is here? 10.54.38 # <[X_MaN]> With the Amiga in the state it is, A new magazine is dead in the water 10.54.44 # * [X_MaN] is from Cyprus 10.55.00 # Hmm... Bet it's nice and hot in cyprus.. 10.55.27 # are we sure this is for definate? 10.55.58 # What about the companies like power and blittersoft? 10.56.17 # They'll have less place to advertise, esp. to those not on the net. 10.56.18 # Gozlingo: the email UID matches Tony's UID 10.56.40 # Oh.. maybe.. oh no, it isn't april.. 10.56.46 # where can i read about the close of CU? 10.56.59 # Sterri: Could you forward that message to me? 10.57.33 # <[X_MaN]> Its on the CU mailing list 10.57.41 # Gozlingo: it's on the TAML now 10.57.55 # I'm not tho.. I think I'm waiting to be approved.. 10.58.02 # <[X_MaN]> Gozlingo:Amiga companies have had ZERO place to advertise recntly 10.58.05 # <[X_MaN]> or just about zero 10.58.06 # there's nothing on their homepage about it. 10.58.30 # * [X_MaN] feels bad about his CU slagging in the past:( 10.58.38 # When I get on the mailing list, it won't be there will it? 10.59.07 Join Arvid [0] (bobdavis@209-184-63-229.carrollsweb.com) 10.59.09 # <[X_MaN]> Gozlingo:by the time u subscribe, it may even close... 10.59.11 # <[X_MaN]> heys Arvid 10.59.21 # hey lo X_man 10.59.31 # Good confidence Xman :) 10.59.44 # hey arvid 11.00.58 # and hi Ogge 11.02.14 # I'm on the list now.. 11.02.42 # Gozlingo: if not, then check out: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/kyle.sterry/cu-amiga.html 11.03.25 # ok, thnks Sterri. 11.08.43 # <[X_MaN]> Ive just read the FAQ 11.08.51 # <[X_MaN]> funny how it has quite a few lies theer:( 11.08.58 # <[X_MaN]> Its NOT the number 1 seller 11.09.05 # <[X_MaN]> Format has always had that crown... 11.09.26 Join Gemini [20] (kimts@ti18a23-0112.dialup.online.no) 11.09.26 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Gemini " by services.beyondirc.org () 11.09.33 # howdy folks! 11.09.37 # <[X_MaN]> heys Gemini 11.09.40 Nick Gemini is now known as [Gemini] (kimts@ti18a23-0112.dialup.online.no) 11.09.43 # <[X_MaN]> Gem:cu Amiga closed down today 11.09.43 # [X_MaN]: wrong, the ABC figures showed that the CU sells more than AF recently. 11.10.04 # <[Gemini]> x: it did????? 11.10.05 # yeah, good reason to go tits-up then 11.10.10 # hey gem.. 11.10.11 # <[X_MaN]> Sterri:what for three issues? 11.10.15 # Oh CHANGE the topic please! 11.10.19 # <[Gemini]> well..i buy AF... so it dossent realy affect me 11.10.25 # <[X_MaN]> Gem:buahahahahaha;) 11.10.31 # Sterri: Why? 11.10.35 # [X_MaN]: has been since May 11.11.10 # <[X_MaN]> Sterri:wow they finally had higher numbers;) 11.11.20 # <[X_MaN]> And then they closed... 11.11.36 # this is quite devastating.. 11.11.38 # X: makes a lot of sense.... 11.11.41 # NOT 11.11.50 # <[X_MaN]> Format wont close now 11.11.51 # unless the numbers were bought 11.11.57 # <[X_MaN]> It will be guarnteed mor esales 11.12.03 # * [X_MaN] thinks so too 11.12.04 # like the Gates propaganda machine 11.12.14 # * [Gemini] is not happy 2 day..... there were lightning and thnder last night and it seems like it messed up my TV and destroyed my 33.2 MOdem :-((((( 11.12.20 # Bet the final October issue will be worth alot in years to come ;) 11.12.26 # <[X_MaN]> Sorrry to hear that Gem 11.12.35 # you got to have something that reflects the news in the Amiga community in the topic. 11.12.55 # gem, bummer.. what modem r u using now? 11.12.56 # <[Gemini]> yeah... all my 33.2 modem do when i turn it on is make a high realy irritating noise 11.13.08 # * Gozlingo has had trouble with lightning that blew his answering machine sky high.. Still, my 14.4k is intact :) 11.13.10 # <[X_MaN]> Sterri:Im sorry to say but CU aMiga has not reflected Amiga news for almost three years... 11.13.30 # <[Gemini]> Ogge: my old 28.8 11.13.48 # * Dave_C doesn't worry about the mags - they're 2-3 months behind anyway... 11.14.23 # <[X_MaN]> Dave:yeps, I got into a discussion with Korn about that, he claimed to be more advanced than net news... 11.14.38 # pbbbbffftttt! 11.15.12 # only ONE way that a mag can out do us, and that's w/ inside info, and well, we have the inside folks. 11.15.18 # * [X_MaN] is hoping people really will miss CU, but Im guessing that the majority stopped reading CU a while back 11.15.52 # * Gozlingo didn't 11.15.59 # no mag, no support, no feedback to non netted users. 11.16.15 # It encourages people to get on the net.. 11.16.27 # anyone not on the net by now has no excuse.. 11.16.38 Join Jackle [10] (James@jackle.demon.co.uk) 11.16.40 # I wouldn't be here without the ukonline 30 day trial thingy advertised in CU.. 11.16.47 # And I post stuff to FIDO too 11.16.56 # hi jackle.. 11.17.15 # ooops 11.17.18 # wrong one 11.17.43 # Blittersoft got my order wrong today.. 11.17.51 # <[Gemini]> if CU cant make it... how will those newstarted magz do?? 11.18.02 # They gave me an A4000 Ide splitter... 11.18.20 # I had hell explaining to a sales person that two diodes does not equal a buffer.. 11.19.03 # which newstarted magz? 11.19.19 Quit Jackle (:Client exiting) 11.19.45 # Jackle would have appreciated this wav 11.20.26 # <[Gemini]> Gozlingo: i dont remember the name... but its i.e that Amiga gamez onlymag 11.21.04 # <[X_MaN]> Dave:exactly, the inside folks are all either channel members post on TA, or are friends of ours;) 11.21.15 # yup 11.21.48 # <[X_MaN]> bbs 11.23.11 Quit Gozlingo (:Ping timeout for Gozlingo[modem72.krycek.kingston-internet.net]) 11.30.31 Join heart [50] (~heart@209-142-35-11.stk.jps.net) 11.30.31 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o heart " by services.beyondirc.org () 11.30.45 # hi all 11.30.52 # <[Gemini]> hiya heart 11.31.13 # Hi heart :/ 11.31.43 # hey heart 11.31.44 # hows everyone today then? 11.31.59 # <[Gemini]> could have been better 11.32.52 # i'm fine tnx.. and u? 11.33.17 # ok yuchhy day outside tho so much for going out riding my bike today =( 11.34.42 # :( 11.36.05 # Hiya Polly 11.37.24 # It's sunny and warm here today... 11.37.57 # hey Dave 11.38.24 # wish i was there today (or almost anywhere south of here) 11.38.49 # <[Gemini]> heart: hahaha, know the feeling :-) 11.38.59 # where are you Gemini? 11.39.07 # <[Gemini]> Norway 11.40.33 # cool.. my physical therapist is from near Stavanger neat lady 11.41.24 # <[Gemini]> heart: i live 85 kms frome stavanger 11.41.42 # <[Gemini]> just a little over an hours drive 11.41.56 # What's Neil Bothwick's IRC nick and network? 11.43.09 # Gemini i had the chance to visit Stavanger when i lived in Scotland wish i had taken it even tho it would have just been for a day 11.43.45 # <[Gemini]> well... stavanger is an okey place... 11.44.01 # <[Gemini]> heart: btw... where in scotland did u live? 11.44.14 # well things to do gotta get out of the house and try to improve my outlook today! take care guys and have fun!!!! 11.44.28 # i lived in Aberdeen for about 8 yrs 11.44.30 # <[Gemini]> cya heart 11.44.32 Join Merko [10] (~Merko@merko.hemmet.s-hem.chalmers.se) 11.44.40 # hi Merko bye ya'll 11.44.44 # cya heart 11.44.47 # hey merko 11.44.49 Quit heart (:: its heaven here... :) 11.44.51 # Aberdeen? Im going to their Uni next year ;) 11.45.11 # heart, ogge, everyone 11.45.48 # <[Gemini]> i was in scotland when i were in the navy... we were in glascow, kyle of lochalsh and loch hue 11.47.20 # <[Gemini]> anyway.... any news 2 day? 11.49.42 # merko, u got any experience using shapeshifter? 11.52.43 # * [X_MaN] i sback 11.53.27 # Ogge: No. 11.53.44 # <[X_MaN]> hey guys whats up? 11.54.55 # downloading mods from aminet.. 11.55.38 # <[Gemini]> reading about cu on their page... 11.55.51 # Does anyone here have datatypes.library v40.x, but NOT the latest one on Aminet? 11.56.11 # merko, guess i can find it one one of the cucd's.. 11.57.32 # Ogge: Would be nice! :) 11.57.41 # which version is on aminet? 11.58.03 # 45.something I believe.. 11.58.19 # 45.4 seems to be the latest.. and 45.3 is on there too.. 11.58.38 # i got 39.11 on my hd.. 11.59.21 # Ogge: Hmm.. I have 39.11 too, but TheMpegaLibraryGUI won't start with it.. and the latest ones don't work here. 11.59.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.59.47 # checking cdcu's.. hold on.. 12.01.11 Join Bastard [20] (Bastardson@mp-37-164.daxnet.no) 12.01.15 # found 40.6 on one of the cd's.. just the library not an archive.. 12.01.19 # hey bastard.. 12.01.25 # Hey Ogge 12.01.34 # <[Gemini]> hiya Bastard 12.01.47 # Long Time no see 12.01.53 # Hi 12.02.07 # Im off 12.02.11 Quit Sterri (:LAGnet, better find another server before I become LagMonster..) 12.02.13 # Ogge: Great.. I don't need an archive.. dcc? 12.02.43 # on it's way.. 12.03.00 # <[Gemini]> ops.. there i-b crashed on me..... it just had 2 happen.... it havent done that in several weeks now :-) 12.03.02 # Ogge: Tnx a lot! :) 12.03.16 # anytime.. 12.03.24 # gem, hehehe 12.07.09 # gem, fixed the permission denied on cd0: now from the ftp :) 12.07.24 Quit Bastard (:Ping timeout for Bastard[mp-37-164.daxnet.no]) 12.07.28 Join HAMLET [20] (wizard@mp-215-22.daxnet.no) 12.07.28 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o HAMLET " by services.beyondirc.org () 12.07.31 # <[Gemini]> Ogge: ahh... kewl... gota check it out then :-) 12.07.39 # hey hamlet.. 12.07.45 # <[Gemini]> HEY, HEY, HEY HAMLET ! 12.07.50 # Greets Ogge =) 12.07.54 # How r u mate? 12.08.01 # Ho ho ho Gem =) 12.08.02 # i'm fine tnx.. and u? 12.08.06 Quit Arvid (:Exciting? ME?) 12.08.09 # I`m allrite 12.08.13 # Sorta 12.08.28 # sorta? whats wrong 12.08.47 # Got phonebills looking worse than anything i have ever seen in my life... =P 12.08.52 # Thats why i`m not much around 12.09.39 # hamlet, like me then.. 12.09.51 # Gotten to do anything on RF yet btw? 12.10.01 # hamlet, got bills this months with a total amount of 20k SEK 12.10.21 # Holy... 12.10.22 # hamlet, not lately.. hava had alot to do at work and on my vaccation i have done other things.. 12.10.48 # I figgured it hadn`t progressed yet =P Know how buzzy ya are 12.10.54 # Where is X? 12.11.00 # Out checking ladies? 12.11.01 # hamlet, but as soon as i start to work again i'll get some time.. thinking of writing the whole thing like a plugin for amirc2.0 12.11.12 # hamlet, yep.. 12.11.42 # <[Gemini]> btw HAMLET have u heard about CU-Amiga? 12.11.56 # Old Amiga Mag no? 12.12.34 # <[Gemini]> HAMLET: well... they r no more... 12.12.46 # Like a few others =P 12.13.27 #>> "talk" by HAMLET (wizard@mp-215-22.daxnet.no) 12.13.42 # Oh well =P 12.14.11 # brb.... changing servers 12.14.26 Quit HAMLET (:(¯`·.,¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.->   ~¤§¤~ eMeRaLd^LiGhT v.1.0~¤§¤~ : Switching Server <-.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ )) 12.14.38 Join WiZaRd [20] (wizard@mp-215-22.daxnet.no) 12.14.48 Nick WiZaRd is now known as HAMLET (wizard@mp-215-22.daxnet.no) 12.14.52 DBUG sent MODE #Team*AMiGA +o HAMLET 12.14.53 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o HAMLET " by Darxide_TA (rhythm@not.bigger.net) 12.15.47 # merko, did the datatype.library work ??? 12.16.03 # Anyways... i have to go to bed..... got a meeting tomorrow.... 12.16.08 # Might start school again =P 12.16.08 # cya hamlet 12.16.33 # <[Gemini]> well.. in order 4 me 2 avoid gettin a phonebill the same size as HAMLET did... i better log off now :-) 12.16.43 # In plain norwegian..... Barne og Ungdoms Pedagog =P 12.16.44 # cya gem.. 12.16.45 # <[Gemini]> cya all 12.17.00 # Take care Gem... 12.17.01 # <[Gemini]> bye, bye 12.17.03 Quit [Gemini] (:Hmmm..... what does this button do??????) 12.17.26 # And you too Ogge, take good care of yerself, and say hello to Mario when and if he gets back... 12.17.36 # ok.. i will 12.18.04 # * HAMLET vanishes into the dark mist of the shadowrealms..... 12.18.06 Quit HAMLET (:(¯`·.,¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.-> ~¤§¤~ eMeRaLd^LiGhT v.1.0~¤§¤~ : Client Exited<-.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ )) 12.20.37 # Ogge: Oh.. well, gonna try it now. Played a bit with cgxmode to get rid of monitor resync when switching between 8-bit and 15/16-bit screens. 12.20.48 # ok.. 12.21.33 Join Yoshi2 [20] (ckemp@ppp6.vo.lu) 12.21.33 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Yoshi2 " by services.beyondirc.org () 12.21.49 # hey yoshi 12.22.09 # Hi! 12.23.08 # I just updated ANN. Check it out at http://www.ann.lu/ :) 12.23.28 # haven't got the needed memory to start a browser :( 12.24.05 # Ogge: Want some of mine? :) 12.24.06 # avail total 12.24.06 # 23845392 12.24.27 # well fastmem is ok.. but i'm short on chipmem at the moment.. 12.24.47 # avail chip 12.24.47 # 1897696 12.24.48 # :) 12.25.16 # sheeze.. using a gfx card or what? 12.25.27 # Ogge: Yep :) 12.25.32 # thats it.. 12.25.52 # i'm junking this a1200 when the inside out board comes.. and use my pc setup for everything.. 12.25.53 # I usually have >2000000 bytes of free chipmem.. dunno what snatched it this time.. 12.26.16 # * Ogge is jealous 12.26.42 # Merko: I usually have about 90%... (P96, two 800x600 screens) 12.27.06 # Yoshi2: Duh, cgx here, 3 1024x768 screens. ;D 12.27.39 # hmm.. anyone got a cheap zorro board for a1200 and a gfx card to sell to me?? 12.27.53 # or even a cheap a3000 with gfx card will do.. 12.27.53 # Merko: I can't do 1024x768 with this monitor (14")... 12.27.56 # Hmm.. 4 was too much, now they don't fit in the VRAM anymore. :( 12.28.04 # Ogge: Buy an A3000, like I did :) 12.28.33 # Yoshi2: I can do 1600x1200, but the cv3d doesn't do it very well.. tried running ADoomPPC in it though. 8) 12.28.41 # don't know where i should put the a3000 though.. my desk is full of computers and monitors.. 12.29.01 # Hey, I even killed an imp with my fists.. that has to mean it was playable, right? ;D 12.29.10 # yep.. 12.29.16 # Ogge: Actually, it's more convenient, as you can move away the keyboard - my A1200 would crash if I moved it... 12.29.43 # yoshi, using an old pc keyboard for my homemade a1200t :) 12.29.53 # Merko: I want to buy a 19", but fear that my PicassoII will be very underpowered... 12.30.01 # Ogge: :) 12.30.48 # Yoshi2: Yeah... I got this monitor at Cologne last year, I thought it would go nicely with the CVPPC. :) 12.31.30 # * Yoshi2 won't buy a CVPPC - I look at the price of PowerUp and estimate that it is *way* to high for what's offered... 12.32.30 # yoshi, have u seen my homemade a1200T ? 12.32.43 # Yoshi2: Too high.. well that depends on what you want.. 12.33.14 # Merko: No L2 cache, only few software... 12.33.18 # * Ogge thinks he will w8 for the inside out board instead of buying an A3000 with gfx card.. 12.33.34 # Ogge: Depends on your PC, I guess... 12.33.42 # Yoshi2: I must say I haven't missed the L2 cache a lot so far. ;D 12.33.57 # yoshi, only a 166MMX with 64MB SDRAM at the moment.. but it will change.. 12.34.31 # Ogge: I wouldn't hold my breath for that card.. but that's me of course. 12.34.32 # Merko: It affects performance quite a lot, I'm told 12.35.00 # merko, well i think it will be ok.. and hopefully it will be released soon.. 12.35.10 # Yoshi2: Perhaps.. it's LOTS faster than any other Amiga card anyway, I think that discussion about the L2 cache is insanely theoretical.. 12.35.31 # Yoshi2: The memory is lots faster I mean. 12.35.35 # Merko: Don't know... 12.35.42 # Merko: Faster than a 3640, sure :) 12.35.57 # * Yoshi2 is signing off. Might be back later 12.36.02 # cya yoshi 12.36.32 Part Yoshi2 12.36.56 # brb 12.36.58 Quit Merko (:Oh no, it didn't crash. This was *fully* intentional.) 12.38.50 Join Merko [10] (~Merko@merko.hemmet.s-hem.chalmers.se) 12.39.13 # <[X_MaN]> heys guys 12.39.15 # <[X_MaN]> back again 12.39.25 # wb x.. 12.39.37 # x, i should say hello to you from Hamlet.. 12.39.44 # <[X_MaN]> thanks Ogge:) 12.39.45 Quit Merko (:Oh no, it didn't crash. This was *fully* intentional.) 12.40.29 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:ur gonna buy a 3000? 12.41.11 # x, don't know at the moment.. i will w8 and see how the Insideout (siamese pci) will be.. 12.41.47 # if it's good enough i'll but it.. otherwise it will be an A3000 with gfx card.. 12.41.48 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:ive heard that a K6 running UAE is faster than a 4000 12.42.17 # <[X_MaN]> So is it time to start looking at UAE completely till next year? 12.42.18 # k6.. which speed? K6233 is really cheap today.. 12.42.28 # <[X_MaN]> 233 12.42.32 Join kernel [0] (gordc@wilson.ca) 12.42.37 # <[X_MaN]> Ive not been able to verify that 12.42.42 # <[X_MaN]> heys kernel 12.42.49 # Howdy! 12.42.49 Join Merko [10] (~Merko@merko.hemmet.s-hem.chalmers.se) 12.42.59 # hmm.. maybe i'll go out and buy me an k6 233 instead.. and trow that intel 166MXX away.. 12.43.01 # wb merko.. 12.43.17 # <[X_MaN]> how much faster is a k6 than a p166 12.43.19 # x, drop me a line as soon as u have it verified.. 12.43.27 # x, alot faster.. 12.43.29 # <[X_MaN]> I dont have a k6;) 12.43.32 # <[X_MaN]> how much? 12.43.45 # <[X_MaN]> Swap is talking of getting some from sweden 12.43.50 # k6 166 says to be the same speed as intel 233.. 12.43.56 # Hmm.. that datatype.library didn't work either. Strange. When I run it, all requests to open a picture will fail with a "file not found".. 12.44.07 # merko, wierd.. 12.44.09 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:what are u trying to do? 12.44.27 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:I saw u ask for a datatype earlier but I was busy, whats the problem? 12.44.34 # x, check out tom's hardware guide for more info.. 12.44.40 # [X_MaN]: Install a datatype.library newer than 40.0. 12.47.27 Quit kernel (:Leaving) 12.48.29 >>> "help" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.48.37 >>> "cmd" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.49.30 >>> "help exchange" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.50.25 #>> "exchange 995 sek gbp" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.50.41 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:so what is the problem? 12.50.44 # buahahaha.. 12.50.51 #>> "exchange 995 sek us" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.50.55 # <[X_MaN]> lol 12.50.59 #>> "exchange 995 sek usd" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.51.25 #>> "exchange 600 cyp usd" by [X_MaN] (~Ramiga@fm-3-08.cytanet.com.cy) 12.51.27 # x, thats the price for a k6 233 in a local computer shop i my hometown 12.51.44 #>> "exchange 600 usd cyp" by [X_MaN] (~Ramiga@fm-3-08.cytanet.com.cy) 12.52.08 # <[X_MaN]> hey I can use Darx to do my foreign exchange;) 12.52.08 #>> "exchange 1250 sek usd" by Ogge (~s-42324@dialup151-2-60.swipnet.se) 12.52.21 # thats the price for a k6 266 12.52.22 #>> "exchange 200 Nkr cyp" by [X_MaN] (~Ramiga@fm-3-08.cytanet.com.cy) 12.52.36 # [X_MaN]: Well.. the older ones don't work with TMLG, and the newer ones return with a "file not found" on all calls. 12.52.39 # <[X_MaN]> whats norsk kroner 12.52.45 # <[X_MaN]> TMLG? 12.53.05 # TheMpegaLibraryGui 12.53.31 # <[X_MaN]> why do they not work with TMlg then? 12.53.31 # x, the currency they use in norway 12.53.33 # Beats Songplayer and AmigaAmp, I heard.. and I hope. :) 12.53.40 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge;)_ 12.53.48 # <[X_MaN]> I meant whats it for Darxide_TA 12.53.55 # ah ok :) 12.54.01 # [X_MaN]: TMLG needs datatype.library v40+ 12.54.24 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:that comes with V3.0 12.54.37 # [X_MaN]: Not here. I have 3.0, and 3.1 roms.. 12.54.39 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:uve destroyed ur V3 system if it wont work... 12.54.44 # maybe i should borrow a k6 233 and verify the rumours about uae being faster than an a4000.. 12.54.59 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:then use the one from V3.1 that is DEFINATELY 40+ 12.55.03 # [X_MaN]: But I have datatype.library v 39.11 on the 3.0 disks. 12.55.32 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:V3.1 is DEFINATELY 40+ 12.55.48 # [X_MaN]: Yeah.. but I don't have any 3.1 disks. Tried something Ogge sent me from a CUCD.. gotta be the one from 3.1. Didn't work. :( 12.55.54 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:please do, that interests me;) 12.56.19 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:so if it wont work with Original Amiga datatypes library then the program is not worth running... 12.56.34 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:if it can`t follow current Amiga standards then... 12.56.35 # Ogge: I bet it is.. faster than an A4000/030/28. ;D 12.56.39 # x, i'll see what i can do.. 12.56.41 # <[X_MaN]> It may format ur hd or something stupid 12.57.00 # [X_MaN]: It's not THAT program only, ALL programs fail! 12.57.28 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:so u have as I said destroyed ur datatype system 12.57.32 # <[X_MaN]> reinstall them all properly 12.57.35 # [X_MaN]: So, I can't use v40+.. and then I can't use TMLG, because it needs v40+. 12.57.51 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:use the ones from 3.1;) 12.57.56 # [X_MaN]: No I haven't. But of course I have exchanged them, I have a gfxcard and the original ones wont work! 12.57.57 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:go to a UAE site 12.58.39 Join ExiE [20] (ExiE@ts3-4.bm.cesnet.cz) 12.58.43 # <[X_MaN]> Merko:what card do u have? 12.58.48 # hi 12.58.53 # <[X_MaN]> hello ExiE 12.59.13 # hey exie 13.01.05 NSplit irc.snowhill.com Hfdata.EU.BeyondIRC.Net 13.01.05 Quit Merko (:irc.snowhill.com Hfdata.EU.BeyondIRC.Net) 13.01.50 Quit ExiE (:www.REaLDREaMS.cz/AMIGA/) 13.01.56 Join Seed [20] (~Ben@p12.sharon2.actcom.co.il) 13.01.56 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Seed " by services.beyondirc.org () 13.02.02 # <[X_MaN]> hiya Seed 13.02.06 # <[X_MaN]> how r u? 13.02.15 # Hi 13.03.01 # <[X_MaN]> brb 13.03.19 # hey seed 13.03.31 # Hi Ogge 13.03.58 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:P2 233 is not that much faster than a P200 u know 13.04.15 # X_Man: I'm fine :) 13.04.20 # <[X_MaN]> Oge:not enough imo to make the damn UAE go so much faster at least 13.04.20 # x, true 13.04.36 # <[X_MaN]> what is it at maximum 3 times faster? 13.04.53 # <[X_MaN]> I doubt it even goes 3 times, more like 75% 13.04.58 # the p2 233?? 13.05.09 # <[X_MaN]> yes 13.05.19 # it depends on the bus speeds.. 13.05.32 # i bet the p200 uses a faster bus speed.. 13.05.35 # <[X_MaN]> so how much faster? 13.05.47 # <[X_MaN]> ever seen a speed comparison? 13.05.59 # think i have seen one at tom's hardware guide.. 13.06.04 # <[X_MaN]> I mean how much faster can a new processor really be than its predecessor 13.06.25 # <[X_MaN]> it is not 10-15 times, which is what is needed to make it faster than my 4000 as I have been told 13.06.29 Join Cryto [50] (Cryto@pb72.softmax.softronics.com) 13.06.29 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Cryto " by services.beyondirc.org () 13.06.34 # <[X_MaN]> heys ChanServ 13.06.42 # [X_MaN]: Chanserv??? :) 13.06.43 # hey cryto.. 13.06.47 # <[X_MaN]> ugh file name completion in Virc sucks;) 13.06.49 # HI Ogge 13.06.55 # [X_MaN]: Hehehe 13.06.56 # <[X_MaN]> hiya Cryto 13.07.04 # Hi to you too [X_MaN] :) 13.07.10 # * [X_MaN] is gonna reinstall UAE 13.07.15 # <[X_MaN]> time to go back to Amirc 13.07.16 # cryto, do u have any experience using shapeshifter.. like formatting a partition with shapeshifter? 13.07.16 # hehehe 13.07.23 # Ogge: Yep.. 13.07.28 # * [X_MaN] has done that 13.07.31 # Why? What did you break? :) 13.08.01 # <[X_MaN]> who me or ogge? 13.08.08 # Ogge :) 13.08.17 # cryto, how the heck can i speed up the format.. i have a 120mb partition i want to initialize.. but after 6 hours it wasn't finished?? 13.08.25 # didn't break anything.. yet :) 13.08.41 Join Agima [50] (Agima@p32.nas1.is2.u-net.net) 13.08.41 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +v Agima " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.beyondirc.org) 13.08.45 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:that is NOT normal 13.09.00 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:are u giving SS a partition or swap file? 13.09.02 # Hi Agima 13.09.06 # <[X_MaN]> heys Agima 13.09.13 # Evenin' people 13.09.21 # x, partition.. 13.09.25 # <[X_MaN]> hows things? 13.09.30 # * Agima announces what people may already know. CU Amiga will be no more. :( 13.09.47 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:how long does it take to boot? 13.09.52 # Ogge: 6 hours?? Ouch. Try givving the drive more buffers.. I dont remember it taking me that long... It took me a little bit yet, on a 100 MB partition.. 13.10.01 # <[X_MaN]> Agima:yeah we do, doesnt mean it still doesnt suck:( 13.10.11 # x, the amiga or the shapeshifter? 13.10.16 # * [X_MaN] remembers nothing more than 10 mins 13.10.18 # Agima: I havent heard about it. Whats going on with them? 13.10.20 # cryto, i will .. 13.10.37 # Cryto : The October '98 issue will be the last one. Ever. See www.cu-amiga.co.uk 13.11.01 # Ok 13.12.43 # why are they going down? 13.13.12 # <[X_MaN]> Seed:not enough profit, they were actually making a loss 13.13.31 # this is sad 13.13.37 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:do u have cross mac? 13.13.46 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:U can use the Amiga to format the disk;) 13.14.38 # don't have crossmac.. 13.14.49 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:how long does it take to boot? 13.14.58 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:ur running SS on what system? 13.16.32 # a1200/030/50 13.16.37 # with 16MB fast 13.16.57 # but i'll try to add more buffers before i try to format next time.. 13.17.37 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:how many buffers does the partition have in the first place? 13.17.39 # which will be as soon as the last 20 modules are downloaded.. 13.17.54 # x, only 20.. but i'll give it 1000 more.. 13.18.10 # <[X_MaN]> Ogge:giving it too many detracts from speed too 13.18.30 # x, true.. but i think i read something about "500-2000 is ok" 13.18.37 # <[X_MaN]> :) 13.18.42 # <[X_MaN]> well I am off to bed guys 13.18.46 # <[X_MaN]> its late and I am tired 13.18.50 # cya x 13.18.51 # <[X_MaN]> so take care and good night 13.19.00 # [X_MaN]: Its early in the afternoon!!! 13.19.01 # :) 13.19.17 # <[X_MaN]> cryto:so come over and help me clean up, your still fresh;) 13.19.25 # <[X_MaN]> ciao 13.19.29 Quit [X_MaN] (:Read error to [X_MaN][fm-3-08.cytanet.com.cy]: Connection reset by peer) 13.19.43 # * Ogge is AWAY: «« MAking some tea and watching tv »» LOG[OFF] PAGE[ON] 13.19.45 # Hehehe 13.20.11 # Did I miss Roc today? 13.20.30 Join Brinto [0] (Brinto@brinto.demon.co.uk) 13.20.36 # Hi Brinto 13.20.38 Join Bastard [20] (Bastardson@mp-39-162.daxnet.no) 13.20.47 Quit Brinto (:Switching server) 13.21.06 >>> "TELLME" by Bastard (Bastardson@mp-39-162.daxnet.no) 13.22.17 #>> 'seen' used by Dave_C (davecook@host245.internettport.net) [snoop prevented] 13.22.34 # Thanks, Dave_C 13.24.20 Quit Cryto (:Local kill by Cryto1 (Ghost)) 13.25.22 Join Cryto [50] (Cryto@pb72.softmax.softronics.com) 13.25.22 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Cryto " by services.beyondirc.org () 13.25.27 # re 13.25.41 Quit Bastard (:Read error to Bastard[mp-39-162.daxnet.no]: Connection reset by peer) 13.25.46 Join Bastard [20] (Bastardson@mp-213-210.daxnet.no) 13.25.52 # wb Bastard 13.25.56 # Hi Bastard 13.25.57 >>> "TELLME" by Bastard (Bastardson@mp-213-210.daxnet.no) 13.26.02 # Hello Darxide_TA Dave_C Ogge Seed Agima Cryto 13.29.02 # * Ogge is back again, was away for 0 hours 9 minutes and 20 seconds 13.30.00 Quit Bastard (:Read error to Bastard[mp-213-210.daxnet.no]: Connection reset by peer) 13.30.06 Join Bastard [20] (Bastardson@mp-37-179.daxnet.no) 13.30.16 # wb AGAIN Bastard :) 13.30.55 # wb bastard.. 13.32.02 # My Dynalink VQE1456 Keeps on dropping the line 13.32.11 # bummer.. 13.32.19 # ;( 13.32.37 # the 1428 was a lot better :) 13.32.43 # Bastard: Threaten it with violence if it does it again... :) 13.32.55 # * Ogge prefers US Robotics modem.. 13.32.57 # never worked, tried that before 13.33.04 # violence works on Monitors. not modems :) 13.33.19 NHeal (timeout) irc.snowhill.com Hfdata.EU.BeyondIRC.Net 13.33.21 # * Bastard prefer ISDN modem, but do not have it.. :( 13.33.33 # didn't work on my M1438s when it died.. had to leave it to a repair shop.. 13.33.40 # Seed: Cool, fix my 1950 then. :) 13.34.37 # Anything new from the AI camp? 13.34.51 # Bastard : What? Are you crazy? 13.34.54 # Bastard: Nothing that I have heard of lately.. 13.34.59 # Cryto: you shouldn't have bought one in the first place :) 13.35.14 # Got a guy in #Cnet that sayd he has a TransAm-300, that has AmigaOS 4.0 on it.. :) 13.35.24 # Seed: Thats besides the point... :) 13.35.31 # that's a PIOS? 13.35.55 # Seed: Mine needs re-aligning.. The 2 magnets in it to focus it are gone, brightness/contrast are at max, and are still too low... 13.36.06 # Bastard: The Machine made by Dave Haynie & Pios-One 13.36.29 # okey, just like I thought 13.36.49 # version 4?, I thought that one came for the PC's only 13.37.19 # Bastard: It is.. :) It needs a intel chip for the emulation tools for the new chip... :) So this guy is BSing... 13.37.44 # bsin? 13.37.47 # bsing? 13.37.51 # * Dave_C thinks someone is fishing for real info and expects someone to break NDA 13.37.59 # Bastard: Bullshitting. :) Lying. 13.38.02 # cryto, 4?!.. is it possible to get a screengrab maybe? 13.38.05 # oki 13.38.19 Join xmaGe [0] (xmage@evil.micros0ft.com) 13.38.22 # Ogge: heh, doubtfull, as he cant possibly have it yet.. 13.38.31 # hehe.. thought so.. 13.38.39 # dave_C: have the fun is to fish for NDA info... 13.38.49 # dave_C: half the fun is to fish for NDA info... 13.38.59 # not when you have an NDA... 13.39.02 # * Cryto will break his NDA and tell ALL!!! 13.39.14 # * Dave_C will thwap Cryto hard if he does! 13.39.17 # dave_C: The problem is how talks the truth and who don't 13.39.34 # Dave_C: Start thwapping man!!! 13.39.35 # :) 13.40.24 Quit xmaGe (:Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?) 13.40.31 Quit Bastard (:Read error to Bastard[mp-37-179.daxnet.no]: Connection reset by peer) 13.40.37 Join Bastard [20] (Bastardson@mp-216-160.daxnet.no) 13.40.41 # Hey Cryto: [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] [THWAP!] 13.40.44 # wb bastard 13.40.52 # heh 13.40.59 # * Cryto nails Bastard to the floor... 13.41.10 # how long have this modem been dropping the line? 13.41.14 # Yer wearing out my "wb" keys.... :) 13.41.35 # *lol* 13.42.35 # to often 13.42.52 # since u bought it or? 13.42.59 # Yep 13.43.14 # sounds like u should return it the the shop and get a new one.. 13.43.19 # Gonna burn a new flashrom on it this weekend hopefully 13.43.53 # ok 13.44.20 # It's not bad when there is very little activity on the net.. Only when it falls low down. 13.44.39 # It's run smooth when set to run at 33600 13.44.52 # Later all 13.44.54 Quit Agima (:Amiga Universe magazine - «http://www.amigauni.u-net.com» - The place to be!) 13.44.57 # bye 13.45.59 # so whats the info on the new cpu, or are we supposed to hold our breath until autumn 1999 13.46.24 # i'm off.. cya all.. 13.46.25 Quit Ogge (:Beam me up....) 13.48.04 # anyone here that was at London WoA? 13.48.34 # * Dave_C doesn't see anyone from .uk 13.53.41 # I wish I could be in London.. this heat is bad! :) 13.53.58 # take me to an Atari show in London.. just take me! :) 13.54.15 # heh 13.54.31 # This fool that was in #CNet was saying he had AMiGA OS/4 running on a PIOS One/TransAM w/ G3 running under emulation 13.54.50 # Totally clueless 13.55.23 # Said he bought a PIOS One @ WoA London (before anyone but Haynie had prototypes) 13.58.28 # Maybe he does.. But then what do I care.. I have a 060@300 MHz, PPC @ 600 MHz, 1 GB ram, 23 GB HD space, and a T3 internet connection, on my A500.. 13.58.51 # yeah, right 13.59.08 # o6o@300? 13.59.18 # Damn, I thought my 250 was as fast as they went 13.59.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.40 # Nope, these are special chips from Motoirola.. 14.06.58 Join Yoshi2 [20] (ckemp@ppp6.vo.lu) 14.06.58 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Yoshi2 " by services.beyondirc.org () 14.07.01 # Hi Yoshi2! 14.07.06 # Hi! 14.07.22 # HI Yoshi2 14.09.27 # Yoshi2: how are you? 14.09.59 # Hi Yoshi 14.10.23 # Seed: Fine, thanks :) You? 14.10.45 # Yoshi2: Do you really want to know? :) 14.10.59 # Seed: It depends :) 14.11.19 # Well, then trust me.. you don't want to :) 14.11.30 # Seed: 14.13.56 Join StG^sNTx [50] (~sjurm@ti02a04-0013.dialup.online.no) 14.13.56 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o StG^sNTx " by services.beyondirc.org () 14.14.05 # Hi StG^sNTx 14.14.08 # hi StG^sNTx 14.14.11 # hello there 14.14.49 # so.. wassup? 14.15.44 # HI StG^sNTx 14.18.02 # StG^sNTx: No major news... ANN was updated, but nothing earth-shaking, I guess. 14.18.57 # Yes. nothing earth-shaking. Mathias Ortmann is still alive :) 14.19.02 # and kicking :) 14.19.45 # Yoshi2: just found an error on ann. u've got a bad link.. I can't get local 980812a.txt if u know what I mean 14.20.11 # Yoshi2: I know what he means ;) 14.20.12 # So you haven't heard that the october issue of CU will be the last ever then? 14.20.31 # StG^sNTx: Hmmm. It should be there. 14.20.33 # StG^sNTx: Yep.. 14.20.40 # I dont get CU that much tho... 14.21.05 # Yoshi2: it's there I c now.. but it's not what I expected.. 14.21.10 # But what is left after CU is away? Only Amiga format? 14.21.28 Join Jamesc [0] (jamesc@203.37.213.250) 14.21.32 # Amiga Format is the biggest left 14.21.35 # Hi Jamesc 14.21.53 # Hi Seed.. Still want to find an A.F. around these parts... 14.21.56 # Yoshi2: I can't find the local file on the first os5 dev-machines anywhere though 14.22.00 # hi Jamesc 14.22.25 Join Petah [0] (petah@montezuma.acc.umu.se) 14.22.34 # Hi Petah 14.22.35 # Hi Petah 14.22.38 # Heya Cryto, Seed 14.22.51 # Not much action here 14.23.05 # Jamesc: I've been a subscriber for 4 years.. been reading it for 7 years now 14.23.09 # * Petah strongly suggests this channel being moved to amiganet instead. 14.23.11 # Not much right now, nope. 14.23.20 # well, bye for now.... 14.23.21 Quit Bastard (:Client exiting) 14.23.22 # Petah: Hell no! :) 14.23.26 # Better to have all Amiga channels under one umbrella 14.23.28 # StG^sNTx: the url for the os5dev article is .../980813a.txt 14.23.31 # Cryto, why not? 14.23.42 # Yoshi2: ok:) 14.23.51 # Petah: There is a stong Amiga following here too... :) 14.23.54 # * Dave_C is still trying to figure out WTF Hembach is doing with his fingers still in the pie... 14.24.06 # I thought he handled the sale to Gateway and he was thru. 14.24.12 # Cryto: Heh. 14.24.46 # Now he's putting an injunction against QP forcing them to stop production 14.24.52 # You betcha Petah.. I reckon they should all come over here :) ... After all, how many servers are there on Amiganet? 14.25.01 # Dave_C: Hembach may still be trying to make money out of this... 14.25.08 # Jamesc: Hehe :) 14.25.21 # And is there an Australian Server? 14.25.24 # If his legal involvement is dont, where are his grounds? 14.25.33 # Dave_C: He's prolly related to medhi ali or Irving... 14.25.44 # JamesC: If you run beyondircd and apply to become a server.... 14.26.06 # Yoshi2: What article is it? I can't find it 14.26.19 # Seed: What article? 14.26.23 # Now if Gateway hadn't issued them a license, I could see it 14.26.42 # and they HAD a license that was supposed to stand THRU the litigation 14.27.35 # Yoshi2: The one he can't access 14.27.43 # If Hembach was supposed to be saving the AMIGA, he's sure doing a 180 by trying to close the main manufacturer 14.28.15 # especially after his involvement (legally) is over 14.28.20 # Well plug into irc.ggcs.net.au Dave :) .... But then, you aren't Australian, so there's probably no point :) 14.28.38 # Seed: 980813a.txt? 14.29.24 # Jamesc: Are you linked to beyond or just stand alone? 14.29.54 # Hopefully today we'll be linked!!! :) Depends on the remaining vote... 14.30.00 # Yoshi2: yes.. what's the subject? 14.30.05 Join HMetal [200] (rakey@wnd1-93.netrover.com) 14.30.05 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o HMetal " by services.beyondirc.org () 14.30.10 # HI HMetal 14.30.10 # Hi HMetal 14.30.11 # reray 14.30.24 # Seed: Is that file not in the archive? 14.30.25 # Yo.. :) 14.30.30 # Still BBQing.. 14.31.00 # did you sculpt those hotdogs like I suggested? 14.31.11 # hehehe 14.31.25 # Yoshi2: It is! I am just tired and didn't look enough 14.31.44 # Seed: OK :) 14.32.11 # Seed: The only change I did to the index.html was from "12b" to "13"... Do you need an ANN_update? :) 14.32.36 # Yoshi2: I see 14.33.21 Join Trolan [200] (trolan@kcochran.tggh.net) 14.33.21 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Trolan " by services.beyondirc.org () 14.33.30 # HI Trolan 14.33.32 # yo 14.33.37 # Hi Trolan 14.34.04 # Yoshi: Do you have a reliable US mirror? 14.34.47 # Dave_C: The main site is located in the US. And then there's the mirror at Amiga.org - but you asked for a reliable one :) 14.39.02 # Dave_C: Why do you want to know? 14.39.32 # it's in the US> 14.39.33 # ?> 14.39.49 # I don't consider amiga.org reliable 14.40.04 # Dave_C: The main site? Yes. All my homepages are located at Dreamhost.com, who are in the US. 14.40.15 # I was gonna see if we could work up an auto updating mirror 14.40.36 # I always hit ann.lu 14.40.41 # Dave_C: My link will always be reliable and fast.. unfortunately it's also expensive for me to keep :) 14.40.42 # Dave_C: So far, I'm sending them by mail... 14.40.50 # 14.41.11 # Dave_C: can you check my mirror and tell me how speedy it is, please? www.seed.co.il/ANN/ 14.41.15 # I can use CNet's IMP to intercept the mail, and route the index.html to the appropriate directory 14.41.23 # Dave_C: Only few people visit the mirrors. Paul and Meni are doing a great job though. 14.41.42 # Dave_C: There are also the articles that need to be copied 14.41.57 # or use a mirroring script 14.42.33 # Trolan: I never used a mirroring script, so I don't even know how these really work. :) 14.43.23 # I don't keep local news 14.43.41 # my news server doesn't even CARRY any AMiGA groups 14.44.06 # Dave_C: No, the local articles that ANN uses 14.44.48 Nick StG^sNTx is now known as StG^aWAy (~sjurm@ti02a04-0013.dialup.online.no) 14.47.33 Quit Seed (:Excess Flood) 14.53.53 # It is very quiet here today... :-/ 14.54.09 # It's been very quiet for a week 14.54.15 # since the 'leak' 14.54.24 # the mailing list is WAY down... 14.54.29 # but Paula's been on vaation 14.54.33 # Hmmm. 14.54.34 # vacation 14.54.38 # hehehe 14.54.41 # Dave_C: Who's Paula? 14.55.08 # Paula Lieberman... very prolific poster on the list and on fidonet 14.55.36 # * Yoshi2 repeatedly mumbles "it's my fault", "it's my fault", "it's my fault", "it's my fault", and has a bad conscience... 14.56.09 # no.. it's the leak's fault 14.56.17 # he knew better. 14.56.19 # Dave_C: :) 14.56.44 Join Ogge [20] (~s-42324@dialup237-2-45.swipnet.se) 14.56.44 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Ogge " by services.beyondirc.org () 14.56.51 # re all 14.56.51 # Dave_C: I don't know... 14.56.52 # and from what I hear, he was surprised at how fast he was nailed. 14.56.56 # Yosh: If I have a piece of news I'd like to show up on ANN, do I have to post it to some appropriate newsgroup with in the c.s.a.#? hierarchy -more- 14.56.58 # Hi Ogge 14.57.03 # * Ogge curses his HD.. 14.57.11 # Petah: Yes 14.57.14 # Yosh: Or can I post the article in question directly to you? 14.57.28 # Petah: No, you need to post it. This requirement is new. 14.57.40 # Yosh: Ah. So I post the article to USENET and simply hope that you divert your interest to it? 14.57.47 # ANN will only echo the newsgroups... 14.57.51 # Yosh: Or can I point it out to you? 14.57.52 # no direct posts anymore 14.58.00 # Ok 14.58.08 # Hey, Seinfeld is on Letterman right now 14.58.21 # Petah: Yes. The risk of being accused for news leaks is lower :-/ 14.59.04 # Petah: You can send the article viy mail or DCC; but I will only mention it as soon as I get it via the newsgroups. 14.59.09 # cryto, r u here? i found out that the formating stops after about 5% in SS.. must be a bad partition.. think i've to choose another partition.. 14.59.31 # Yosh: Okay. So I post an article, wait some hours for it to show up on newsservers around the planet and then send you an e-mail asking if you publish it on ANN? 14.59.37 # Yosh: Ah, I see. 14.59.49 # Ogge: Someone's trying to nuke Cryto and he's attending it 14.59.52 # Dave_C: He was "nailed" as he agreed to have his name mentioned to take away some pressure to me 14.59.56 # Yosh: Okay, that's reasonable. 14.59.57 # dave, ok.. 15.00.04 # Dave_C: ... from me, not to me 15.00.16 # Dave_C: Actually I am FTP'ing from a site that is HARD for me to get on.. So I am PISSED... 15.00.25 # Yoshi: He forgot the Darx logs the channel and Gary and Fleecy both have access to the logs 15.00.41 # Petah: Yes, exactly. You can also send the mail now. The important thing is that I get it on Usenet before putting it on ANN. 15.01.05 # Yosh: Well, there isn't any mail to send right now. :) 15.01.12 # Dave_C: Everybody's got access to the logs 15.01.15 # Yosh: There will be, however. 15.01.28 # Dave_C: Aminet 15.01.32 # cryto, there are alot of such ftp servers all over the world.. always full or down.. 15.01.33 # Petah: OK. 15.01.38 # Yoshi: Yup. 15.01.44 # after I up them 15.01.55 # the next one goes up tomorrow 15.02.04 #>> "find ta731" by Dave_C (davecook@host245.internettport.net) 15.02.06 # Dave_C: I'm almost sure that he didn't do the leak on purpose 15.02.39 # Dave_C: OK. Although the numbering scheme will get confusing in a few months... 15.03.00 # I know, but it was from the ICOA closed list... I checked the ICOA page and it stated that it is NDA. 15.03.08 # Dave_C: We'll see things like ta10011007.lha... 15.03.28 # the actual content was previously discussed, but it was simply that a complete doc from the list was passed out 15.03.42 # Dave_C: Yes, but how did he get on that list? Gary Peake said you need to be developer to get there... 15.03.53 # 7318 must be july the 31:st 1998.. but what the heck does 06 mean?? 15.04.04 # ending date 15.04.15 # Ogge: 06th August 15.04.16 # 7-31 thru 8-06 15.04.22 # ah.. 15.04.36 # make it 07310806 then. :P 15.04.51 # Yoshi: Beats me... 15.04.53 # Dave_C: IMHO, it would have been more logical to just have a starting date OR ending date, and put it in YYMMDD format. 15.04.59 # I saw his name listed in the membership 15.05.24 # I may change that... 15.05.31 # I'll put it to a vote here or something 15.05.58 # Dave_C: The "programmers-only" requirement? 15.06.17 # no.. the date format... sorry 15.06.56 # Dave_C: 15.07.12 # * Yoshi2 figures we need a threaded IRC program :) 15.07.15 # bbiaf 15.07.17 Part Cryto 15.07.35 # * Dave_C has enough windows open already, thank you.. 15.07.53 # ;^) 15.08.20 # I have to work tonight, so I'm gonna head out and grab something to eat before I get ready 15.08.21 # Dave_C: No, one that automatically indents things :) 15.08.59 # Dave_C: You're making me hungry again (over here it's already past midnight :) 15.09.13 # WE have enough trouble w/ ppl whining about quoting formats and line length on the mailing lists 15.09.46 # Dave_C: Blame the programs, not the people. Microdot-II is handling stupid users just fine :) 15.09.47 # sheeze.. 15.09.55 # isn't there better things to whine about.. 15.10.14 # hey, it was Dr. Peter K who was whining the loudest 15.10.23 # and Joanne D too 15.10.47 # Yosh: Hm... it looks like http://www.ann.lu shows up as garbage when using the "alynx" browser. You may want to investigate this closer. 15.11.02 # Petah: Let me check that here 15.11.04 # Petah: It's because of the many nested tables, probably. 15.11.47 # Yoshi2: Could be. This is the output of the seriously outdated ALynx: 15.11.48 # [TABLE] (Not yet implemented. Please ignore any garbage, below.) 15.12.26 # Petah: Yep, so it's tables. The only solution would be to make a separate version without any tables... 15.12.27 # And that's about it. Oh well, I'll just start IBrowse (another old HTML dinosaur) 15.12.59 # Yosh: Well, a set of CGI scripts could easily build different versions of ANN. 15.13.13 # Petah: Yes, but I don't have CGI access ATM 15.13.21 # Yosh: Bummer. :( 15.13.27 # Petah: Besides, I never did anything using CGI/Perl/... 15.14.15 # Yosh: Ah. Well, it's not that hard. Not that I've used it but... :) 15.14.37 Quit Ogge (:Beam me up....) 15.14.38 # Yosh: If you know C, you know CGI. At least that's my interpretation of the CGI hype. 15.14.49 # Petah: I could do many things with CGI, but I'm not sure if the time invested would pay... 15.14.54 # if you know C and are good with your stringhandling routines. =) 15.14.58 # Petah: I know a bit of C 15.15.16 # Petah: I'm already using a combination of hsc macros and C programs to create ANN 15.16.19 # Yosh: Ah. Well, you can use virtually any language for CGI access - at least any language that supports environment variables. 15.16.43 # Petah: I'd probably use Perl 15.17.09 # Yosh: AFAIK, a webserver sets a standard set of environment variables and then it's up to the developer to interpret this data in an appropriate way. 15.17.35 # Yosh: This in theory, of course. 15.17.50 # Petah: The interesting thing would be to replace the standard index.html with an index.cgi that can be customised... 15.18.20 # Petah: ie. index.cgi?look=lynx would create a version without tables 15.19.15 # Yoshi: Exactly. This technique allows you to e.g. monitor what clients the users are running, client IP-addresses... 15.19.49 # Petah: I do have server logs, so I know IP addresses, but they're not that interesting (at least not for me) 15.20.04 # Petah: If I want client monitoring, I just check the WebTracker stats 15.20.29 # Petah: http://www.fxweb.holowww.com/v2-fullstat.cgi?userid=A41159&password=Y1997 15.20.43 # Yosh: Well, that's one way of doing it. I just pointed out one way of using CGI. 15.21.03 # Petah: OK 15.21.30 # Petah: But the interesting thing about CGI is that you can do interactive webpages, ie. pages that adopt to the user's needs. 15.21.55 # Yosh: Well, as I've said before, ANN is truely outstanding! This with or without tables. :) 15.22.11 # Petah: I'm glad you like it. :) 15.22.34 # Yosh: Yeah, that's neat - customizable news. 15.23.12 # Yosh: Have you seen the MS Internet Explorer 4 "desktop components" feature? 15.23.25 # Petah: Nope. 15.23.49 # Petah: I only have MSIE3 through Shapeshifter 15.24.13 # Yosh: Ah. Well, this "desktop" approach allows you to put up small windows on your desktop. In Workbench terms... 15.24.56 # Petah: I don't really like that concept though... 15.25.08 # Yosh: I'd say these windows would be "backdrop" windows on your Workbench. Every "component" has a timer telling the web browser system when to look for updates. 15.26.02 # Yosh: Well, once you get the hang of it you'll probably like it. It's real neat to have a small desktop component (e.g. The CNN News Window) on your computer that updates itself. 15.26.02 # Petah: I guess this is mainly used by newstickers and advertisements? 15.26.13 # Yosh: Exactly. 15.26.20 # Petah: But you have to be online all the time for that feature... 15.26.27 # Yosh: Well... 15.26.57 # Yosh: I don't think so. However, I havn't paid much attention to that matter as we have T1 connections here. 15.27.04 # Yosh: AmiTCP around the clock. :) 15.27.05 # :) 15.27.53 Quit HMetal (:Ping timeout for HMetal[wnd1-93.netrover.com]) 15.27.54 # Yosh: I believe the webbrowser can deal with the updates all by itself, though. If you are still using a modem, you can request regular updates. 15.27.55 # Petah: I'm accessing the net via an 28k8 modem. A leased line (don't know what speed) costs as much per year as a small car costs to buy... 15.28.25 # Petah: I prefer to hunt for the news on my own :) 15.28.51 # Petah: Most news are only updated once every day anyway... 15.28.56 # Yosh: Ouch. Well, don't you guys have... hm, like small apartments for students with permanent Internet connections? 15.29.18 # Yosh: Or apartments in general with Internet connections? 15.29.23 # Petah: There are no universities in Luxembourg :) 15.29.28 # Petah: Nope. 15.29.31 # No universitets at all?? 15.29.55 # Petah: Luxembourg is small, we all go to Germany, France, Belgium... to study 15.30.07 # Yosh: So there are no people in Luxembourg with university degrees then? Just garbage men and waitresses? :) 15.30.47 # Yosh: Heh. I get the idea. :) Well, in Sweden just about every new apartment that is built features some Internet jack in the wall. 15.30.50 # Lots of people have degrees, but from foreign universities. 15.31.13 # Petah: Most nordic countries are more advanced as far as technology is concerned... 15.31.27 # I hear ya loud and clear. The European Union ERASMUS exchange student program comes in handy here. 15.32.09 # Petah: I think I was in Copenhagen through that programme two or three years ago... 15.32.38 # Yosh: Well, I guess that's just a priority issue, really. Speaking of high tech, I just got a new cell phone - an Ericsson GA628. Swedish quality. :) 15.32.50 # Yosh: Really? What did you study? 15.33.02 # Petah: Nothing yet. Highschool. 15.33.21 # Yosh: Ah. I didn't know ERASMUS covered "pre university studies"? 15.33.23 # Petah: I'm a very lazy person, so didn't progress as fast as I could :) 15.33.41 # Yosh: Heh. Well, there's something I find familiar. 15.34.02 # You: Du snakker dansk? 15.34.13 # Yosh, that is 15.34.13 # Petah: Oops, I think it wasn't called Erasmus, but "Comenius"... 15.34.18 # Ah. 15.34.29 # Yosh: Yeah, I know. 15.34.34 Join Cryto [50] (Cryto@pb82.softmax.softronics.com) 15.34.34 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Cryto " by services.beyondirc.org () 15.34.47 # Petah: Nope :) I don't understand a single word of Danish :) 15.34.51 # hi Cryto 15.34.59 # HI Yoshi2 15.35.15 # Yosh: Hey, me neither even though Swedish and Danish are very closely related to one another. :) 15.35.48 # I think I'll be signing off in 5 minutes. I'm beginning to get tired :) 15.36.04 # Yoshi2: Why? Its early.. :) 15.36.28 Nick StG^aWAy is now known as StG^sNTx (~sjurm@ti02a04-0013.dialup.online.no) 15.36.30 # Yosh: The problem is the Danish pronounciation. They uh, "swallow" all of their words and you have this fragmented stream of words pouring outta their mouths. Impossible to understand anything. 15.36.30 # Cryto: It's 00:36 over here 15.36.57 # Yosh: I hear ya. Gonna crash myself. 15.36.58 # Petah: I agree. 15.37.01 # Yoshi2: Heh. :) 4 over here. :) 15.37.03 # (PM) 15.37.09 # * StG^sNTx speaks both swedish and danish, but the again he's norwegian:) 15.37.33 # StG: Heh. So which lingo is most easy to understand? 15.37.44 # StG: Swedish or Danish? 15.37.48 Join TA [200] (gpeake@wt-d8-45.wt.net) 15.37.48 # Night Yoshi2 15.37.48 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o TA " by services.beyondirc.org () 15.38.00 # Hey TA! 15.38.01 # Cryto: 15.38.01 # StG^sNTx: I'm speaking English, French, German (and, most importantly) Luxembourgish :)) 15.38.06 # mornin 15.38.11 Mode "#Team*AMiGA -o TA " by TA (gpeake@wt-d8-45.wt.net) 15.38.17 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o TA " by Cryto (Cryto@pb82.softmax.softronics.com) 15.38.19 # :) 15.38.28 # hi TA 15.38.30 # Petah: easier to understand swedish when listening, but think it's easier to read danish:) 15.38.37 # Yoshi2: I also speak english and german 15.38.38 # "Luxembourgish"? Heh, it sounds like something elves or dwarves would speak. Donald Duck language. :) 15.38.39 # hey yoshi2 15.38.55 # StG^sNTx: so you're more multilangual than I am :) 15.39.19 # StG: Ah. Well, written Danish and Norweigan look just about the same to any Swede. 15.39.19 # I would like to emphasize on "english" in the last sentence, as you probarbly didn't know:) 15.39.32 # Petah: No way... :)) Luxembourgish is a fine language, it's just that only ±350.000 people speak it... 15.39.35 # Petah: there u go:) 15.40.12 # Yosh: So this language of yours... is what, like a French dialect? Some German-Dutch combo deal? 15.41.05 # Petah: It's not a dialect. It's a mixture of German, French, but also contains many words that are "original" 15.41.06 # StG: Hey, do you how to say "can you carry my suitcase" in Danish? 15.41.25 # Petah: You'd offend many Luxembourgers if you said "is it a Dutch dialect" :) 15.41.34 # Yosh: Ah. Sounds like a pretty good base if you wanna learn additional euro lingos. 15.41.59 # Petah: Yep. We learn German from age 6, French from age 7, English from age 13. 15.42.12 # Yosh: Well, if there are only 350 000 of you guys I think I'd have a good chance in a fight. :) 15.42.29 # Petah: hehe:) english in main, isn't it? Kan du ta hold om min "koffert"? 15.42.56 # Petah: Actually 410.000, but not all speak Luxembourgish. We have over 30% that don't have Luxembourgish nationality. 15.43.02 # Yosh: English from age 13?? Man, that's late! In Sweden you begin yer English studies in the 3rd or 4th grade... and many consider that to be late (including myself) 15.43.23 # Petah: I know how to make myself understood by a danish person. That might not be the same as to know every work of the language 15.43.26 # Petah: We already learn German and French earlier... 15.43.31 # st: Well, actually, it goes something like "Kan du runke min task". You know what that means in Swedish? 15.43.48 # Yosh: I hear ya. 15.44.05 # Petah: Besides, our direct neighbors are Germany, Belgium and France, so these languages are more important... 15.44.22 # Petah: hehe:) Ville inte passera sensuren;) 15.44.27 # Petah: English is often only required for work 15.44.33 # Yosh: Now, that depends on where on the planet you are and to whom you're talking, right? :) 15.44.41 # StG: haha :) 15.44.41 # heh! We start learing English at birth ... :) 15.44.59 # Petah: I was talking about Luxembourg :) 15.45.09 # TA: Yeah, and then you don't learn any other languages. Guess who's the big sucker here? :) 15.45.31 # Petah: We've got lots of international banks here, so English is very useful there... 15.45.35 # Yosh: Heh. Well, it's not like Luxembourg holds every chair in the European Parlament, huh? :) 15.45.50 # Petah: Not really. But let's not talk about politics :) 15.45.55 # Yoshi2: I just remebered another language I know; AmosPro:) 15.45.55 # Petah: We are here, of course. Same with our foreign policy of selling arms and giving away money. We should build schools and hospitals and give books and medicine ONLT. 15.46.04 # StG^sNTx: Hehe. I know HTML :) 15.46.10 # Yosh: English is useful everywhere, hence my opinion that every kid in Europe should start learning English from the 1st grade. 15.46.35 # Yoshi2: so do I:) 15.46.44 # Yosh: No politics? Awright. :) 15.46.51 # Petah: You don't have much contact with English people in Luxembourg until you're over 20, or so. As such, it is sufficient if you start learning it at 13... 15.47.20 # The US has made many mistakes over the years ... 15.47.41 # We should acknowledge that and straighten up our act now. 15.47.51 # Petah: If you travel to France, Germany, Italy, you'll often meed people who don't understand a single word of English. Often old people, but also a lot of younger ones. 15.47.57 # Yosh: Well, the world is getting smaller. The European Union is getting tighter every day and Internet is becoming a more important part for communication for every day. 15.48.03 # TA: Every country makes lots of mistakes 15.48.39 # Petah: Sure. Internet = English, until all Chinese can get computers. Then, English will be a minority. 15.48.41 # Yoshi2: We grew up being told we could buy peace with money and arms. We should have bought peace with schools and books. 15.48.53 # Yosh: I know about the French, they are... uh, "special" (to say the least). But still, I figure just about every young continental European speaks English, right? 15.49.10 # I'm outta here. "CU"? 2morrow:) 15.49.13 # Petah: Most do, yes. 15.49.43 # TA: The US are/were at the top, and it's easy to look down on other countries... 15.49.48 # Bye! 15.49.49 # Yosh: Well, I don't think China will threaten the English language in any way even if every chinese had a MMC sticked to his forehead. :) 15.49.50 Quit StG^sNTx (:| I'll be back! Visit http://home.sol.no/~stgenius/ Always updated with amiga news and usefull info!) 15.49.51 # bye StG^sNTx 15.51.04 # Petah: On one of my pages, I got 26000 visitors from Europe and also 26000 from Asia. It shows that these countries are becoming an important market to consider 15.52.24 # Yosh: Of course. Still, I find it extremly hard to believe there is anything that could compromise English as the dominating Internet language, no matter how many computers the chinese get. 15.52.54 # Yosh: In fact, I'd say that's just about impossible. 15.52.58 # Petah: China is a huge market. Even with only 10% owning an Internet box, that would make way over 100 million Chinese users 15.53.13 # Yosh: Sure, but there are a lot of factors to consider here. 15.53.43 # Petah: Sure, but it's a fact that there's a huge market for non-English content. 15.53.50 # Yosh: First, you have the Chinese censorship. The government has to control what passes out of China, and what goes in. 15.54.34 # Yosh: Then you have to consider what interest people from outside China has in Chinese homepages, mailinglists... whatever. 15.54.55 # Petah: Agreed. But the Internet cannot be censored, and I don't think the Chinese can manage to keep people from using it 15.55.17 # Yosh: Vice versa, you need to know what interest people from China has in foreign Internet services of any kinds. 15.56.07 # Petah: Yes, but these 100 million Chinese will have their own demand, and that demand is almost as strong as the demand of the (English-speaking) Internet at the moment. 15.56.19 # Yosh: Well, even if we belay (sp?) from the censorship issue, there are IMO too many differences that stand between China and the western civilazation (Europe, North America, Australia...) -more- 15.56.58 # Yosh: for any actuall blending to take place. 15.57.01 # Petah: Yes. But if there are interesting pages in Chinese, all Chinese will look at these pages and neglect English pages. 15.57.03 # actual 15.57.14 # Yosh: Well, that's my point. 15.57.38 # Petah: Yes, but then major services will start doing Chinese pages, since it's a new and huge market... 15.57.39 # Yosh: The Chinese will probably target a different market than "Western" services. 15.57.57 # Yosh: Exactly. However, these are two different markets. 15.58.00 # Petah: I don't know. We're talking way too much politics again :)) 15.58.18 # * Yoshi2 is too tired to argue :)) 15.58.42 # Yosh: I'd say that you'll have the "Western scene" and other scenes, such as the Chinese. 15.58.46 # Yosh: Heh. 15.59.23 # my isp is a group of Chinese guys, They do a really good job here too. 15.59.27 # Yosh: Alright, I'll give you a break. Still, I don't believe any of us will need to learn Chinese in order to read ANN in 10 years. :) 15.59.32 # TA: Cool 15.59.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.41 # Ah 15.59.43 # Petah: Who knows :) 15.59.44 # 00:59 CET 15.59.53 # Yosh: Heh 16.00.03 # Well, I really gotta hit the sack. 16.00.11 # Yosh, nice talking to ya dude. 16.00.25 # * Petah yawns and heads for the exit. 16.00.29 # Petah: Yeah :) 16.00.35 # Alright ppl, g'nite 16.00.39 Quit Petah (:Zzz) 16.00.39 # Petah: bye, see you :) 16.04.55 # Hey TA.. How's things... 16.09.07 # * Cryto is away bbiaw 16.10.44 # TA is asleep.. 16.12.22 # * Yoshi2 is signing off. See you all later. 16.12.38 Part Yoshi2 16.15.17 Join heart [50] (~heart@209-142-58-110.stk.jps.net) 16.15.17 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o heart " by services.beyondirc.org () 16.15.35 # hey all 16.18.42 # Hi Polly... 16.18.54 # Just here for a few before getting ready gfor work 16.19.58 # have fun! =) 16.20.22 # wonder if Gary will answer his page... 16.21.09 # =) 16.21.10 # There was a guy in #CNet earlier claiming he had AMiGA OS/4 already running under emulation on a PIOS One/TransAM300 16.21.14 # no telling 16.21.41 # ? some kid probably 16.21.57 # said he was at WoA and bought it there... 16.22.13 # funny how Dave H said he had the only prototypes... 16.22.38 # but it does not exist yet... did you tell him to send to you for a test run! 16.23.01 # ya never know what people manage to snag on the internet tho 16.28.21 # bbl guys have fun! 16.28.41 Quit heart (:: its heaven here... :) 16.58.47 # Asha was on.. Got on, then got back off. :( 17.00.37 Join PerGunnar [0] (PerGunnar@du204-245.ppp.algonet.se) 17.00.39 Quit PerGunnar (:I moved house - my Canon printer died... So I'm saving paper!) 17.02.15 # hello Dave 17.03.15 # Dave_C: There is no OS 4 for the amiga yet. 17.05.33 # hello, hello 17.06.08 # olleh, olleh 17.07.06 # heh! 17.07.16 Join Arvid [0] (bobdavis@209-184-63-229.carrollsweb.com) 17.07.33 # hey bob! 17.07.40 # Cryto: you wanna deal with Fam? 17.07.53 # hi TA 17.08.02 # Trolan: No.. :) 17.08.09 # <-- got his new 68000 cpu computer with pre-emptive multitasking today 17.08.10 # Cryto: well I'm busy. :P 17.08.12 # I need to call someone, so I aint back yet. :) 17.08.23 # I'm on the clock, so I ain't either. =) 17.08.44 # Trolan: Temm em to come here and we'll confuse him for ya. 17.08.46 # Trolan: What are you doing? Taking down another ircd?? 17.08.47 # :> 17.08.52 # Cryto: and he needs to look in !changes.. 17.08.52 # * Cryto ducks 17.08.54 # tell him even ... :) 17.09.05 # TA: nah.. don't want to drive you all nutz 17.10.02 # sorta person that wonders why he can't access an FTP site that only allows certain blocks of Ips to login after he was added, but then changes ISPs and can't anymore. 17.10.14 # hahaha 17.10.35 # and thinks his access was removed.. 17.10.57 # confuse him even more by really removing his access then ... :) 17.12.00 # well he changed ISPs again, and hasn't informed me of the new IP range.. so.. =) 17.14.05 # well, gotta run ... 17.14.13 # cya later tonite. 17.14.17 Quit TA (:http://web.nt.net/~gpeake/) 17.27.54 Part Trolan 17.34.19 Quit Arvid (:Exciting? ME?) 17.49.58 Join Classylady [10] (RukhS@port1-43.ephrata.desupernet.net) 17.49.58 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Classylady " by services.beyondirc.org () 17.50.07 # * Classylady waves 17.53.22 Part Classylady 17.54.12 # * Cryto is back. 17.59.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.02.04 # * Cryto is away Hrm, I'll be back in just a few, AGAIN.... 18.13.42 Join Harv_ [50] (hrlaser@netcom10.netcom.com) 18.13.43 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o Harv_ " by services.beyondirc.org () 18.13.51 Quit Harv_ (:Leaving) 18.32.37 Join alanwall [50] (alanwall@d142.nas17.sonic.net) 18.32.37 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o alanwall " by services.beyondirc.org () 18.33.30 # hi-by 18.33.35 Part alanwall 18.36.17 # * Cryto is back. 18.42.54 # Yes 18.43.52 Mode "#Team*AMiGA -o ChanServ " by services.beyondirc.org () 18.43.52 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o ChanServ " by services.beyondirc.org () 19.18.29 # bbl 19.18.39 # bye Jamesc 19.19.32 Quit Jamesc (:Farewell Folks! Catch you on the Bitstream!) 19.41.11 Quit Dave_C (:Read error to Dave_C[host245.internettport.net]: No route to host) 19.59.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.13.04 Join Arvid [0] (bobdavis@209-184-63-179.carrollsweb.com) 20.13.30 # HI Arvid 20.13.45 # <-- is playing with his new 16-mhz 68000 machine 20.13.49 # and hi Cryto 20.14.06 # 16 MHz machine? You get one of those accelerators?? 20.14.30 # Nah. Got a 3Com Palm Pilot Professional 20.15.00 # PreEmptive multitasking, software seems to be small and efficient 20.15.38 # Ah.. Cool. Never seen one of those.. Cant be running windows ce then.. :) 20.16.13 # Nope no windows ... Palm OS v 2 .. the newer machines have Palm OS v 3 .. 20.16.43 # Cool 20.16.56 # Too late tonight to try everything .. but it somes with tcp/ip so I'll try it on the Internet tomorrow 20.17.45 # The CD rom with software which comes with it assumes Windows of course .. but I'll be talking to it from the A3000 20.17.54 # but it comes with tcp/ip 20.17.58 # Thats cool 20.18.16 # slick little box 20.18.43 # What all does it do? 20.18.52 # 5.5 inches by 3.5 inches X 0.85 inch thick 20.19.27 # I dunno. Just got it this afternoon. My kid got a new Palm Pilot III and gave me his old one 20.20.01 # Lots of software available for download ... three different web browsers and even an IRC client 20.20.17 # Wow.. 20.20.46 # Wonder how much they cost.. Theyt have a built in port to plug in a 10b2 or 10bt connector? 20.21.02 # it has a memo pad and calculator and such stuff 20.21.15 # The one I have comes with a cradle and an RS232 cable 20.21.31 # The newer one has an IR interface, too 20.21.59 # Cool. SOunds interesting. Specially if it has an irc client in it.. :) 20.22.07 # I've seen this Professional for $214 plus shipping, I dunno if that includes the RS232 20.22.29 # The IRC client is available for download but I have not grabbed it yet. 20.22.36 # Still learning how to do all this stuff 20.23.16 # Learning how to get it to recognize my writing 20.23.43 # Cool.. Good way to stay on the net I guess.. :) 20.23.43 # Got the Amiga software from aminet today though 20.23.50 # Kewl! 20.24.47 # It will be interesting .. now trying to get a terminal program onto the PalmPilot from the Amiga ... maybe 20.25.16 # I read that 3Com USR sold two million of these things .. I wonder if Motorola makes the CPUs 20.26.31 # Maybe. Possibly not.. 20.27.06 # Yeah .. my A500 .. ten years old this month .. came with a non-Motorola CPU, originally 20.27.26 # One I had was the same way.. 20.27.48 # But the A500 has a Motorola 68010 in it now 20.28.29 # Dont that mess up the clock? 20.28.43 # Not at all .. works perfectly 20.28.48 # Got a friend that has fast clock problems.. May have a bad CIA tho.. 20.29.20 # Very likely. I read that some clock chips in clone computers have a y2k problem 20.30.07 # Yeah.. Hope my A3k's dont.. :) 20.31.29 # I read that the Amiga OS is OK until the year 2037 .. and I don't expect to last that long myself 20.31.50 # And most flavors of Unix crap out in 2037 too 20.33.18 # Heh 20.33.27 # Well, I wouldnt mind being around... :) 20.35.12 # heh 20.35.21 # I would be .. lemme count 20.35.25 # 94 years old 20.35.50 # I would be 60 somehting.. :) 20.36.52 # ah 20.40.40 # OK!!!! I got the Amiga to read the internal list of files from the Palm Pilot 20.41.00 # Kewl! 20.42.19 # On the Palm Pilot screen it says AMIGA made it possible 20.42.40 # Hahaha, cool! 20.44.07 # * Cryto is off for now.. Gnite. :) 20.44.29 Part Cryto 20.53.03 Join TA [200] (gpeake@wt-d8-12.wt.net) 20.53.03 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o TA " by services.beyondirc.org () 20.53.17 # ooops, everyone has gone home it seems? 20.54.15 # yes I am home 20.54.39 # <-- has the Palm Pilot and the Amiga talking to each other .. slick 20.54.40 # heh! 20.55.45 # The Amiga displayed the directory of files in the Palm Pilot and on the PP screen, it said --AMIGA made it possible-- 20.55.56 # hahaha, too cool 20.56.48 # The Palm Pilot being a 16 Mhz 68000 cpu machine 20.57.56 # pretty neat Arvid 20.59.16 # It is the closest thing to a really tiny Amiga 20.59.34 # Harv loves his. 20.59.58 # ah gotta talk to him about it then 21.00.54 # tomorrow I shall try the tcp/ip and get the IRC client that should be a hoot 21.02.03 # Harv thinks the palm pilot is the next best thing to Maccy D's. 21.02.41 # I am not a fan of that particular place 21.03.51 # Harv only eats out i hear from him ... :) 21.05.18 # heh .. I wish I could do that 21.05.59 # He told me once that his stove may have never been used. 21.06.53 # heh again i know mine has 21.07.14 # yeah, I cook daily. 21.07.40 # Not that I am a good cook .. but I can prepare Minute Rice .. sometimes 21.08.01 # Cajun here. Even if I don't know how to cook it, I do. :) 21.08.15 # ummm 21.09.01 # My kid, who lives somewhere out there in the area where Harv Laser lives, is a consumer of Asian Restaurant food 21.09.06 # mostly in Palo Alto 21.09.16 # If it's dead, cook it. If it's not dead, kill it and cook it. If you can't kill it, eat it raw. Old Cajun saying. 21.09.39 # uh umm 21.10.30 # well, gotta fly. 21.10.33 # cya 21.10.51 Quit TA (:http://web.nt.net/~gpeake/) 21.21.07 Quit Arvid (:Exciting? ME?) 21.56.32 Join alanwall [50] (alanwall@d145.nas17.sonic.net) 21.56.32 Mode "#Team*AMiGA +o alanwall " by services.beyondirc.org () 21.57.00 Quit alanwall (:Client exiting) 21.59.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.19.06 Join Jamesc [0] (jamesc@203.37.213.250) 22.20.42 # I see TA has completly died after midnight :) 23.59.51 *** No seen item changed, no save performed.