From 101.7455@relay.germany.net Sat, 01 Aug 1998 11:29:36 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2965 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2966 (database) From: Jeffrey L. Burford <101.7455@relay.germany.net> To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 17:29:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id JAA08508for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:39:53 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02157for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:41:34 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id LAA02155 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0811e46591380c554a1abd26c4f81760 What would the chances be of someone or a group taking on the rights for the hardware and software development? How dificult would this be? I do believe the interest is still there for this wonderfuld product. In regards to AHI How about "Bribes" to the people with the API knowledge to break their agreements and everyone chips in the money for any pending lawsuit?? Sincerely, Jeffrey L. Burford Frankfurt/Germany ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 01 Aug 98 12:53:11 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2966 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2968 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Jeffrey L. Burford Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 12:53:00 Message-ID: <837.517T598T7732283@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id KAA09760for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 10:58:59 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02909for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:02:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 599612a7e56ca6946a6aa1ec5ba261c8 Jeffrey L. Burford wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >What would the chances be of someone or a group taking on the rights for the >hardware and software development? How dificult would this be? Nearly impossible. There was a discussion earlier on this ML on this. We have a small indication on who owns the stuff, but we're not 100% sure. Ben knows, but he said he would be "killed" if he told us. To me it tells me that the owner isn't very willing to hand over the stuff to anyone no matter what. >I do believe the interest is still there for this wonderfuld product. Agreed, but the others are catching up on us. >In regards to AHI >How about "Bribes" to the people with the API knowledge to break their >agreements and everyone chips in the money for any pending lawsuit?? You could always try, but I doubt it will work :) re, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From g_roche@istar.ca Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:03:11 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2969 (database) From: Greg Roche To: studio16 Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Fri, 31 Jul 98 17:03:00 Message-ID: <000a01bdbc9c$b8f92e20$949abfcc@a> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA13863for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 16:04:00 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06729for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:04:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a2f057b09397adf924935ce06edfc6e6 Please tell me what API and AHI mean or stand for....I keep seeing them quoted but no one ever defines them ....thanks Greg -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey L. Burford <101.7455@relay.germany.net> To: Kenny Nilsen Date: August 1, 1998 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes >What would the chances be of someone or a group taking on the rights for the hardware and software development? How dificult would this be? I do believe the interest is still there for this wonderfuld product. > >In regards to AHI > >How about "Bribes" to the people with the API knowledge to break their agreements and everyone chips in the money for any pending lawsuit?? > >Sincerely, > > >Jeffrey L. Burford >Frankfurt/Germany > > > > >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fw@well.com Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:26:52 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2969 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2971 (database) From: Fred Wright To: studio16 Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 23:26:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA19749for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:28:00 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10480for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:30:20 +0200 X-Sender: fw@paix-alg-gw1-15.ncal.verio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: bd276c3082f2259160ebcabfa21efc30 On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Greg Roche wrote: > Please tell me what API and AHI mean or stand for....I keep seeing them > quoted but no one ever defines them ....thanks Greg API means Application Programming Interface. It's a spec on how one piece of software talks to another. AHI originally meant Audio Hardware Interface, although the author has since disowned that meaning and prefers that you treat it as a word. It's a retargetable audio system that supports different add-on audio cards as well as the native audio, in a similar manner to the way CyberGraphX and Picasso96 support a variety of display cards. The general concept is sometimes labeled RTA for ReTargetable Audio, just as RTG is used to refer to things like CGX and P96. There's at least one other RTA system - ARTAS from A.C.T. Fred Wright ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 01 Aug 98 19:29:31 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2969 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2972 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Greg Roche Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 19:29:00 Message-ID: <811.517T1574T11693155@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA21805for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 00:29:23 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11470for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 02:32:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 2d29963424f41a89846c701ed66b3eae Greg Roche wrote: >Please tell me what API and AHI mean or stand for....I keep seeing them >quoted but no one ever defines them ....thanks Greg Hi Greg, API is short for Applications Program Interface AHI is short for Audio Hardware Interface API is for developers. It tells the programmer how he can interact with a system or software. Studio 16's API is only defined for the library meaning you can only interact with it though here. As the other modules don't have defined APIs you can't interact with those. AHI is a system that provides an API so the developer doesn't need to think of what audio card a computer has. You just put in a driver for your audio card and the program written for AHI will work with the card. To create a driver for an audio card you will need to know its API. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From g_roche@istar.ca Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:32:50 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2973 (database) From: Greg Roche To: studio16 Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 08:32:01 Message-ID: <000b01bdbd1e$974fcd60$529abfcc@a> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id HAA28766for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:31:31 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14568for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:34:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e1deed02b027c1fc504eead53432fc6a -----Original Message----- From: Fred Wright To: studio16@thule.no Date: August 1, 1998 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes > >On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Greg Roche wrote: > >> Please tell me what API and AHI mean or stand for....I keep seeing them Thanks...Greg ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From g_roche@istar.ca Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:34:54 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2974 (database) From: Greg Roche To: studio16 Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 08:34:01 Message-ID: <000e01bdbd1e$e1341f80$529abfcc@a> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id HAA28776for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:33:16 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14624for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:36:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 557baad108e949d8c3fccc8e056a8a3c -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Nilsen To: Greg Roche Date: August 1, 1998 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Survey comments and wishes >API is short for Applications Program Interface >AHI is short for Audio Hardware Interface > Thanks.....Greg ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From westdunn@cyberus.ca Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:58:55 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2868 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2976 (database) From: Bill Dunn To: studio16 Subject: Re: Latest vs. Studio16 3.0 ???pops and clicks Date: Mon, 10 Aug 98 10:58:01 Message-ID: <35CEC45A.32F90F76@cyberus.ca> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA26374for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:01:32 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11006for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:02:52 +0200 Organization: West/Dunn Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <874.484T1272T11123105@bgnett.no> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b1e6bd4d0014019c26927001358e414c Kenny Sorry to interrupt your summer, but where can I get an update for my Studio16 vs. 3.0? Also seems SOund PRobe does decrackle and various noise reduction manoeuvers Thanks Bill Dunn ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From ged@mindspring.com Thu, 20 Aug 1998 19:05:55 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2977 (database) From: Mark Montfort To: studio16 Subject: test Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 00:05:01 Message-ID: <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA28093for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:58:44 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28045for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:35:42 +0200 X-Sender: ged@mindspring.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 15a5724617b7bd61793b3952d216b47b test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. -test ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gclink@dryden.net Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:50:46 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2978 (database) From: Gord Clink To: studio16 Subject: Re: Test Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 14:50:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA28931for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:45:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29547for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 01:24:29 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a757bc3c551e8b69609fa3f32eea2dde Hello, I'm still here.... I think everyone must be enjoying the summer! Gord Clink ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:06:15 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2977 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2979 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: test Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 03:06:00 Message-ID: <19980820.222436.11198.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA01331for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:15:38 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01374for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:54:25 +0200 References: <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 25bc14d98edda0d6ae68c787e0cb6d8e >test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. I was wondering the same thing. It has been very quite in all mailing list lately. I am recording some demo projects with studio16/B&P so though I'm quiet here, I am making lots of noise with my amiga. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From creger@neumedia.net Fri, 21 Aug 1998 01:32:04 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2979 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2980 (database) From: Chris Reger To: troy silvey Subject: Re: test Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 21:32:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA03533for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 05:25:03 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04276for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:03:57 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 0aa0f63101d8c1198b990170e559caa7 Iam another that was wondering I thought I got kicked off the list for not talking or something. Hey I was just wondering if it wouldnt be any trouble to tell me how you have your studio16 hooked up. you know what mixing board you use to record mics cables the mix down and is it for full bands? Iam primarly a bass player but play drums to in a band and we want to make a demo. I have two make 1202 one is a 1202 VlZ which is much nicer than the older one. The mics I have are Shure beta58s 5 of those shure57,some shure dynamic mics and two AKG mics a bass drum one the cool one and another that is pretty exspensive. I use the 58s for recording everything but have yet to get a really good recording. i know the room acoustics has a lot to do with it but figured you might know a little more about it after reading your post. also do you get any noise from other boards in your computer I have an IO card Pic2 Opalcard and will have a Vlab capture card. Thanks On 21-Aug-98, troy silvey wrote: >test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. I was wondering the same thing. It has been very quite in all mailing list lately. I am recording some demo projects with studio16/B&P so though I'm quiet here, I am making lots of noise with my amiga. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:32:39 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2981 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: test Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 02:32:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id IAA08343for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:34:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06164for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:12:40 +0200 X-ROUTED: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:34:04 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e0cdb00fb77864d01da0c2ecf009d963 On Thu, Aug 20, 1998, at 07:05 PM, Mark Montfort wrote: > test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. > -test > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) Just got back from 2 weeks of Sun, MountainBiking, Sailing, Rafting and Eating. Found my Amiga and Blew some dust of it. I am Back. Greets, Rene'(DSP) Schaap --------------------------------------------------------------- NEW VOICE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR THE N.E.T. PRODUCTIONS !!!!!!!!! PLEASE UPDATE THEM IN YOUR AGENDA, DATABASE. ETC ETC. --------------------------------------------------------------- _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 88 (ISDN) FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 89 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Solar@geleb.wolfenet.com Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:18:34 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2981 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2982 (database) From: Solar To: studio16 Subject: RE: test Date: Sat, 25 Jul 98 09:18:00 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980725011834.00913e90@popserv.wolfenet.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id JAA09705for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:17:12 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07122for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:56:25 +0200 X-Sender: Solar@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 3e07e212e37b167c1cccdb99837d362c Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers properly... At 10:32 AM 8/21/98 +0900, you wrote: >On Thu, Aug 20, 1998, at 07:05 PM, Mark Montfort wrote: > >> test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. >> -test >> >> >> ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > > >Just got back from 2 weeks of Sun, MountainBiking, Sailing, Rafting and Eating. > >Found my Amiga and Blew some dust of it. > >I am Back. > >Greets, > > > > > >Rene'(DSP) Schaap > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > NEW VOICE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR THE N.E.T. PRODUCTIONS !!!!!!!!! > > PLEASE UPDATE THEM IN YOUR AGENDA, DATABASE. ETC ETC. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _ > ( ) No Empty tape Productions. > ------------------------------ >Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. > >Email : net@Dutch.nl > >Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net > >Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 88 (ISDN) > >FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 89 > > > > > >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fdiebel@emrl.com Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2982 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2983 (database) From: Floyd Diebel To: studio16 Subject: RE: test Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 10:35:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id JAA10349for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:33:52 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07497for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:13:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ee7d3d2f8ddb367a0405453ba27fa429 On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Solar wrote: > Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? > > I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers properly... i've got two in my a2k. they should just plug right in. you need two ad516 handlers in the handlers drawer. ----- fdiebel@boulez.emrl.com a/v composition and engineering. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:27:30 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2984 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 14:27:00 Message-ID: <19980821.100718.89.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA18998for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:08:49 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11592for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:47:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: bdcc0ca69f9fee83c29b97290da22eb0 >Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? > I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers >properly... Greg Ham of "Men at Work" uses this kind of a setup, but I understand that you have to make a modification or have a certain rev board for it to work. Some one else on the list probably knows more about it. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From beachler@iastate.edu Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:35:15 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2984 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 2985 (database) From: Rich Beachler To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 15:35:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA19514for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:28:23 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12023for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:07:30 +0200 X-Sender: beachler@pop-2.iastate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: de08cecd1dd9c89863309bc971e572d2 >>Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? >> I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers >>properly... > >Greg Ham of "Men at Work" uses this kind of a setup, but I understand >that you have to make a modification or have a certain rev board >for it to work. Some one else on the list probably knows more about it. I've done it with my 2 AD516s. It worked in both an A2500 25mhz 030 and an A3000 w/25mhz 040. The software can support more cards as well (up to 4, I think). No hardware modifications or jumper changes were needed. The trick is to have an AD516handler for each card. They then show up as AD516-1 and AD516-2 in Studio16. On the A3000 I managed to get 12 tracks to play at once and I believe that's the limit. I saw someone else on this list say that theirs topped out at that same number of tracks. I think this is more a limit of data I/O (SCSI, CPU, etc.) than a limitation of the cards/software. I bought a second card mainly for 4 tracks of simultaneous recording (which worke great!). More separate audio I/O would be the only reason to exceed 2 cards since the multitracking tops out at 12 tracks. Rich Beachler beachler@iastate.edu ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gordc@wilson.ca Fri, 21 Aug 98 09:46:46 CDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2984 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2986 (database) From: Gord Clink To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 15:46:00 Message-ID: <9808210946.15f42a@www> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA19806for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:40:33 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12232for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:19:41 +0200 Message-ID: <35DD8854.8CA18D73@wilson.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:46:45 -0500 Organization: Wilson's Business Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19980821.100718.89.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9a77d16cf4e99f497f1f87ffbf6f2c19 I use two boards in my system. It works very easily...... First of all, you don't have to change any jumpers... those jumpers on the boards were for diagnostics(AFAIK). Secondly, you don't actually get 16 channels, you get 12.... after the second board, you get 4 additional channels for each board you install up to 4. So, if you had 4 boards installed, you would get 20 channels. But of course your HD throughput would have to be able to handle this. Thirdly, you have to have an additional copy of the AD516 handler for each additional board. All you have to do is copy it with a new name.... that is sufficient. Now when you load Studio16, it sees two AD516 drivers installed, so it looks for two boards.... that easy! Gord Clink troy silvey wrote: > >Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? > > I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers > >properly... > > Greg Ham of "Men at Work" uses this kind of a setup, but I understand > that you have to make a modification or have a certain rev board > for it to work. Some one else on the list probably knows more about it. > > troy > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From creger@neumedia.net Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:10:55 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 2987 (database) From: Chris Reger To: Gord Clink Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 10:10:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA23483for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:03:48 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17600for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 19:42:58 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 143f6fc09f1434e6a8c947bc609989d2 I thought the Zorro bus can only handle 12 channels max? This would be cool if it is true I would buy two extra boards if I could find them cheap of coarse. then I would have 16 channels,that would be nice. On 21-Aug-98, Gord Clink wrote: I use two boards in my system. It works very easily...... First of all, you don't have to change any jumpers... those jumpers on the boards were for diagnostics(AFAIK). Secondly, you don't actually get 16 channels, you get 12.... after the second board, you get 4 additional channels for each board you install up to 4. So, if you had 4 boards installed, you would get 20 channels. But of course your HD throughput would have to be able to handle this. Thirdly, you have to have an additional copy of the AD516 handler for each additional board. All you have to do is copy it with a new name.... that is sufficient. Now when you load Studio16, it sees two AD516 drivers installed, so it looks for two boards.... that easy! Gord Clink troy silvey wrote: > >Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? > > I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers > >properly... > > Greg Ham of "Men at Work" uses this kind of a setup, but I understand > that you have to make a modification or have a certain rev board > for it to work. Some one else on the list probably knows more about it. > > troy > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Solar@geleb.wolfenet.com Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:34:59 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2982 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2988 (database) From: Solar To: studio16 Subject: RE: test Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 19:34:01 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970725113459.00935670@popserv.wolfenet.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id TAA25012for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 19:34:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18971for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:13:05 +0200 X-Sender: Solar@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) References: <3.0.1.32.19980725011834.00913e90@popserv.wolfenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b8d6a29564d1619945efccdd31cbec5d That was certainly a quick response.... Thanks to all who replied to the 2 boards in one machine question. I'll have to go try it out. Does anyone out there have a SoundStage board (Digital Micronics/Applied Magic)? At 02:35 AM 8/21/98 -0700, you wrote: >On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Solar wrote: > >> Anyone ever try and put two Studio16's in a machine for 16 channels? >> >> I tried it once, but had no luck. I even think we set the jumpers properly... > >i've got two in my a2k. they should just plug right in. you need two >ad516 handlers in the handlers drawer. > >----- >fdiebel@boulez.emrl.com >a/v composition and engineering. > > >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:18:22 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2979 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2989 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: test Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 08:18:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA25425for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:01:19 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19350for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:40:34 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e0dd09c97c048fd7218143932e51583c On 21-Aug-98, troy silvey wrote: > I was wondering the same thing. It has been very quite in > all mailing list lately. I am recording some demo projects > with studio16/B&P so though I'm quiet here, I am making > lots of noise with my amiga. I've been busy teaching on a Summer College, and working on an algorithm for click removal. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fw@well.com Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:16:30 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2986 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2992 (database) From: Fred Wright To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 23:16:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA28008for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 22:17:00 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21233for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 23:55:56 +0200 X-Sender: fw@paix-alg-gw1-58.ncal.verio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 30238fc759fa7773fe29e685455e619f On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Gord Clink wrote: > First of all, you don't have to change any jumpers... those jumpers on the > boards were for diagnostics(AFAIK). My AD516 only has one jumper on it, which selects the interrupt priority level. I don't know whether it can be changed without confusing the software. > Secondly, you don't actually get 16 channels, you get 12.... after the > second board, you get 4 additional channels for each board you install up > to 4. So, if you had 4 boards installed, you would get 20 channels. But of > course your HD throughput would have to be able to handle this. Really? For what reason? Fred Wright ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fw@well.com Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:28:19 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2987 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2993 (database) From: Fred Wright To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 23:28:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA28134for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 22:28:27 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21571for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 00:07:46 +0200 X-Sender: fw@paix-alg-gw1-58.ncal.verio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c2b4f1ad0326a080dc958a867f2b5ebc On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Chris Reger wrote: > I thought the Zorro bus can only handle 12 channels max? This would be cool if Seems unlikely unless something really crappy is going on. But it dends on a number of things. The best-case scenario would be a fast accelerator with local RAM and SCSI (e.g. CSPPC). Here all the CPU RAM accesses and all the SCSI transfers are purely within the card, and only the actual data output needs to go over the Zorro bus. If the card is Z2-only (I think it is) then the absolute maximum data rate would be 3.58Mb/s, although I'm not sure how close you can come to that in practice. Each channel at CD audio rate needs 88.2Kb/s, so you might be able to get up to around 32 channels or so. Some of the advertised limits may predate modern accelerators. If decompression could be done on the DSP the Zorro bus would be less of a limitation. This may not be possible on the current card, though. Fred Wright ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gclink@dryden.net Fri, 21 Aug 1998 19:09:33 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2992 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 2994 (database) From: Gord Clink To: studio16 Subject: Re: 2 S16's in one Date: Fri, 21 Aug 98 15:09:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA29485for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 00:04:34 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24635for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:43:19 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: ee3e567273b555274c4eb42474bf277f Hello Fred On 22-Aug-98, you wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Gord Clink wrote: > >> First of all, you don't have to change any jumpers... those jumpers on the >> boards were for diagnostics(AFAIK). > > My AD516 only has one jumper on it, which selects the interrupt priority > level. I don't know whether it can be changed without confusing the > software. Mine has one as well.... but there is no need to change it! Even with multiple cards. > >> Secondly, you don't actually get 16 channels, you get 12.... after the >> second board, you get 4 additional channels for each board you install up >> to 4. So, if you had 4 boards installed, you would get 20 channels. But of >> course your HD throughput would have to be able to handle this. > > Really? For what reason? I believe it's a limitation of hardware interaction between the boards.... you get 8 on the first board and 4 on every board after it! I really don't know why! Gord Clink ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From jkrutz@meta.burner.com Mon, 24 Aug 98 13:23:54 MST X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2977 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3000 (database) From: Jamie Krutz To: studio16 Subject: Re: test Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 21:23:01 Message-ID: <9808242023.AA019s9@meta.burner.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id BAA07655for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:54:34 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05695for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:31:29 +0200 References: <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com> X-NewsSoftware: GRn 2.1 Feb 19, 1994 Organization: The Back Burner BBS Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5e5b48eeb0b4174acaf28f01610d33eb In article <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com> Mark Montfort writes: > test -anybody still out there? Been a while since I've seen any mail. -test Still here. It's been an extremely busy summer. Used the AD516 last weekend to create a solo piano CD for a friend. He recorded it elsewhere, and we transferred it to the Amiga. Trimmed the start and end of each movement in Studio 16. We burned the CD with Master ISO. Best Regards, -Jamie ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 25 Aug 98 19:24:47 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3002 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: Future plans Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 19:24:00 Message-ID: <609.541T2373T11644170@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA00750for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:25:48 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24388for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:02:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: f5ff49282e9f1160af58306518e48f8d Hello everyone! Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm back behind the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro photographer and am loaded with work, and it will get worse later this autum and by christmas time. In addition we're gonna install a brand new digital lab during the next half year so that means I have not much time left to program anything for the Amiga. My list of projects will be however: - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 - A new mixer module for Studio 16 - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. regards, - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From gordc@wilson.ca Tue, 25 Aug 98 13:44:54 CDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3003 (database) From: Gord Clink To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 19:44:01 Message-ID: <9808251344.57ad5@www> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA01025for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:40:02 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24632for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:18:37 +0200 Message-ID: <35E30625.4026711C@wilson.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:44:53 -0500 Organization: Wilson's Business Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <609.541T2373T11644170@bgnett.no> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 53105bdee80c0bb735698bf694530550 I'm looking forward to the completion of these project.... keep up the good work! Gord Clink Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm back behind > the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro photographer and am > loaded with work, and it will get worse later this autum and by christmas > time. In addition we're gonna install a brand new digital lab during the next > half year so that means I have not much time left to program anything for > the Amiga. > > My list of projects will be however: > > - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 > - A new mixer module for Studio 16 > - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. > > regards, > - Kenny > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From beachler@iastate.edu Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:03:23 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3004 (database) From: Rich Beachler To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 20:03:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA01323for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:56:34 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24952for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:34:52 +0200 X-Sender: beachler@pop-2.iastate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: db6aeb46e7fad1114129c99863e14078 Hello Kenny (and all), >Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm back behind >the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro photographer and am >loaded with work, and it will get worse later this autum and by christmas >time. In addition we're gonna install a brand new digital lab during the next >half year so that means I have not much time left to program anything for >the Amiga. > >My list of projects will be however: > > - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 > - A new mixer module for Studio 16 > - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. Wow! It seems amazing to me that you will have time to even think about it. I'm sure most members on this list tremble with excitement ( or at least smile in anticipation ;) at the thought of these projects actually happening! Your efforts make life with Studio16 better for us all. Thank you, thank you (and thank you)! Rich Beachler beachler@iastate.edu ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From bygarcia@suffolk.lib.ny.us Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:35:51 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3005 (database) From: Luis Garcia To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 21:35:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA03739for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:42:07 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26470for studio16-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:20:07 +0200 Importance: High X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d74b32333a72ec30a150fac9fdb69d44 Hi! Kenny please dont abandone us now! All of us on this list need you and thiese projects to be completed and so does The AMIGA Just think $$$$ Thanks Kenny for all your time and efforts.. Regards L. Garcia On 25-Aug-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm back behind > the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro photographer and am > loaded with work, and it will get worse later this autum and by christmas > time. In addition we're gonna install a brand new digital lab during the next > half year so that means I have not much time left to program anything for > the Amiga. > > My list of projects will be however: > > - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 > - A new mixer module for Studio 16 > - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. > > > regards, > - Kenny > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > Kind regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From grzanich@prismnet.com Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:37:11 -0500 (CDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3007 (database) From: Jeffrey W. Grzanich To: All Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 23:37:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA06250for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:38:16 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28450for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:16:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 83ee43c34e67fad0c2d2656e41bd90d7 Hey, count me in for the interested parties as well. I would love to have the new support for my AD516/Amiga. Thanks again for the support. ********************************************************** **** grzanich@prismnet.com (Jeffrey W. Grzanich) **** ********************************************************** Member *TeamAmiga* ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 26 Aug 98 17:32:51 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3004 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3014 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Rich Beachler Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Wed, 26 Aug 98 17:32:01 Message-ID: <403.542T2590T10524587@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA27750for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:21:03 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16253for studio16-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:57:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1ccc9b83949cd80bdc34120b9f8b2593 Rich Beachler wrote: >Wow! It seems amazing to me that you will have time to even think >about it. I will be amazed myself :-) Today I also got to know that I will be in charge of the whole store when the owner is away which will be a lot the next half year. I will try to squeez programming inbetween now and then, but please don't expect something in this year :-/ Sorry about that folks. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From juchnoa@uwstout.edu Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:35:37 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3000 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3016 (database) From: Art Juchno To: studio16 Subject: Developer Interested. Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 15:35:00 Message-ID: <35E56EB9.C31@uwstout.edu> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA01781for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:49:00 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10102for studio16-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:25:50 +0200 Organization: Learning Technology Services MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) References: <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com><9808242023.AA019s9@meta.burner.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7095886f54f3d3ee37777d0e7b8420a1 Hi all, Saw this on comp.sys.amiga.audio Can anyone on the list help this guy out? Art Juchno >Email: dupont3@juno.com >Date: 1998/08/19 >Forums: comp.sys.amiga.audio >Anyone know if it is possible to license the Sunrise Studio16 >technology? I want to develop a program based on the Studio 16 >interface >Yet I can not find any contacts to the authors or copyright holders of >this program.I am sure that they must be out there and ready to make >some money off of there great program for a change. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ciao, dupont ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:35:32 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3017 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 20:35:00 Message-ID: <19980827.153744.70.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id WAA13829for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:46:08 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22236for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:21:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-14,16-20 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: bac69c813c8a21f80d2a053beb2c7b41 >>Anyone know if it is possible to license the Sunrise Studio16 >>technology? I want to develop a program based on the Studio 16 >>Yet I can not find any contacts to the authors or copyright holders >>this program.I am sure that they must be out there and ready to make >>some money off of there great program for a change. >>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I treid as hard as any one I have met to do the same thing. I did manage to contact Ben Fuller and he lent some help and expertise to ken and this group, but made it pretty clear that the holders of this technology had no intention or desire to release or license it to any one else at this time. I beleive Ben still monitors the list. He may answer your question with more authority than I. But unless some thing out there in california has changed the heatrs and minds of those with the technology since the last time we spoke, I think you will get a very similar answer.... "No." You can forward mail and address to the other list if you like. I can also tell them what microsoft said about releasing bars and pipes. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From ged@mindspring.com Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:34:23 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3017 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3019 (database) From: Mark Montfort To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 00:34:00 Message-ID: <199808272324.TAA00600@dewdrop2.mindspring.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA14533for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:24:48 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22952for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 01:03:42 +0200 X-Sender: ged@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 References: <19980827.153744.70.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: cfaa64a59cfdd5b5d77115f1a0315dd8 At 08:02 PM 8/27/98 -0300, you wrote: >Troy spoke and whirled like a Dervish divine: > >> I treid as hard as any one I have met to do the same thing. >> I did manage to contact Ben Fuller and he lent some help >> and expertise to ken and this group, but made it pretty clear > >Kenny Nilsen now has the developer information, but has decided to keep >it >to himself so that he can maximize the potential money he can make from >development. >dhomas trenn. Wow, did I miss something, was kidnapped by aliens or something? This isn't at all my impression of Kenny's stand on this. I'm sure he'll reply to this, but I remember him offering to whoever wanted it! Mark ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From dupont3@juno.com Thu, 27 Aug 1998 04:29:52 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3020 (database) From: dupont3 To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 12:29:01 Message-ID: <19980827.042953.-127143.3.dupont3@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id AAA15425for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:30:59 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24067for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:09:04 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-16,18-48 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1e2bb680e2bfff7c54b3127099f7b56d Thanks for the info. Hopefully the Studio 16 copyright holders are keeping their options open for a future return to developing on the Amiga. What I really wanted to do was port the program over to the PC which I am sure that some Amiga aficionados have expressed interest in already. Licensing the rights to use the technology can be used in many ways and depends on many factors that need to be negotiated depending on the goals of the owners. I am sure that if MicroSoft came around looking for the the rights that those Sunrise guys would pop up in a second. In that regard there has got to be a deal able to be made for the right price. Can Ben Fuller provide a contact to the owners so that we can talk? Ciao, dupont On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:35:32 -0400 tc_silvey@juno.com (troy silvey) writes: >>>Anyone know if it is possible to license the Sunrise Studio16 >>>technology? I want to develop a program based on the Studio 16 >>>Yet I can not find any contacts to the authors or copyright holders > >>>this program.I am sure that they must be out there and ready to >make >>>some money off of there great program for a change. >>>Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >I treid as hard as any one I have met to do the same thing. >I did manage to contact Ben Fuller and he lent some help >and expertise to ken and this group, but made it pretty clear >that the holders of this technology had no intention or desire >to release or license it to any one else at this time. I beleive >Ben still monitors the list. He may answer your question with >more authority than I. But unless some thing out there in california >has changed the heatrs and minds of those with the technology >since the last time we spoke, I think you will get a very similar >answer.... >"No." You can forward mail and address to the other list if you like. >I can also tell them what microsoft said about releasing bars and >pipes. > >troy > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno >at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list >(unofficial) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:11:08 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3021 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 03:11:00 Message-ID: <19980827.221108.11062.1.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id CAA16708for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:02:23 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25972for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 03:40:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-12,14,16,18-20,22,24,26-27,29-33,35-48 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 17f45d33b009c485554d0fbacc1b1e39 >Kenny Nilsen now has the developer information, but has decided to >keep it to himself so that he can maximize the potential money he can make >dhomas trenn. Not true. I also have the information. I'm just not any where near the progammer kenny is to do any thing about. And the information given by Ben was absolutly bare. All the necessary additional information it takes to produce some thing useful with the awesome 3 pages offered by Ben, is kenny's skill and knowledge of programming amiga and studio16 added to the 1.0 dev docs. Sounds as if you're not a happy camper. I can mail you or any one else the same 3 pages from Ben. I promise it would do you little to no good. 3 pages of nothing but the C function proto types for the handler lib. Nothing else. No code to go with the protos, no docs, no notes. If you're a exsperienced C programmer it will be usefull. I understand the information, but cannot program well enough to matter. I hate the fact that he has no time to program. And hate more the problem that I am such an enept programmer at the moment. I hope to change that soon as I continue to program ( and screw up ) my amiga. I don't know if I can get there fast enough to make any difference to AHI though. If some one else who is a programmer, interested and willing to take this on, I would gladly send them all the same info. And if there were such big bucks involved in writting this, I would think kenny would be busy doing it instead of photography. I once estimated about $3500US might be made. This based on a survey I did long before kenny's, and his info added to that. That divided by a huge amount of time, is not much per hour. ( 90 days * 2-4 hours a day maybe ) If I were a good enough programmer to pull it off, I would do it for free. But I don't fault kenny for wanting to make some thing for his effort. So far all the other utils he has done have been shareware. The other thing is that there was no information offered by ben on the hardware at all. I can't say, but I got the impression that the ex-prez of sunrize was sitting on this info and was never going to give it up. Ah well, I have rambled enough. I honestly have lost most of my fire for the revival of S16 and Bars and Pipes. I think by the time we have more for the S16 cards, we will be buying a new amigaOS5 and some newer, more awesome pci based sound card. Pity. troy --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From skuba@flash.net 25 Aug 98 21:01:52 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3022 (database) From: Craig Blackman To: Kenny Nilsen Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Wed, 26 Aug 98 05:01:01 Message-ID: <1310.541T2645T12614468@flash.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id FAA19306for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:17:11 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30961for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 06:55:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: d8eb8514410f0f85d4056218bd5d3c26 Really interested to see how AHI would work with Studio16. Nicer still to work with the AD516. Oh well. Starting to think we will not see this. On 25- Aug- 98 11:24:47, Future plans, Kenny Nilsen wrote: >Hello everyone! >Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm >back behind the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro >photographer and am loaded with work, and it will get worse later >this autum and by christmas time. In addition we're gonna install a >brand new digital lab during the next half year so that means I have >not much time left to program anything for the Amiga. >My list of projects will be however: > - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 > - A new mixer module for Studio 16 > - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. >regards, >- Kenny >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) _________ Cheers, Craig Blackman | 3000T & 3640 in PC Tower, ADOS 3.1 mailto:skubaREMOVEME@flash.net | 50Megs, CV 64, GVP I/O, Fusion/Emp Tucson, Arizona | FastLane Z3, AD 516, Syq 270 "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Some mornings it's just not worth gnawing through the straps. ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From martin.e@aa.telia.no 28 Aug 98 08:16:41 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3021 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3023 (database) From: Martin Ettestøl To: troy silvey Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 14:16:00 Message-ID: <2708.544T2094T4964295@aa.telia.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id GAA20552for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 06:27:20 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32390for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:05:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5 (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: de46546fedc7b78ac75e06c89257cee1 Why not release this information publicly on the Aminet or something, so anyone who cares could have a go? >Not true. I also have the information. I'm just not any where near the >progammer kenny is to do any thing about. And the information >given by Ben was absolutly bare. All the necessary additional >information it takes to produce some thing useful with the >awesome 3 pages offered by Ben, is kenny's skill and knowledge >of programming amiga and studio16 added to the 1.0 dev docs. >Sounds as if you're not a happy camper. I can mail you or any one else >the same 3 pages from Ben. I promise it would do you little to no good. >3 pages of nothing but the C function proto types for the handler lib. >Nothing >else. No code to go with the protos, no docs, no notes. If you're a >exsperienced >C programmer it will be usefull. I understand the information, but cannot >program well >enough to matter. I hate the fact that he has no time to program. >And hate more the problem that I am such an enept programmer at the >moment. I hope to change that soon as I continue to program ( and screw >up ) >my amiga. I don't know if I can get there fast enough to make any >difference >to AHI though. If some one else who is a programmer, interested and >willing >to take this on, I would gladly send them all the same info. >And if there were such big bucks involved in writting this, I would think >kenny >would be busy doing it instead of photography. I once estimated about >$3500US might be made. This based on a survey I did long before kenny's, >and his info added to that. That divided by a huge amount of time, >is not much per hour. ( 90 days * 2-4 hours a day maybe ) >If I were a good enough programmer to pull it off, I would do it for >free. >But I don't fault kenny for wanting to make some thing for his effort. So >far all the other utils he has done have been shareware. >The other thing is that there was no information offered by ben on the >hardware at all. I can't say, but I got the impression that the ex-prez >of sunrize was sitting on this info and was never going to give it up. >Ah well, I have rambled enough. I honestly have lost most of my >fire for the revival of S16 and Bars and Pipes. I think by the time we >have more for the S16 cards, we will be buying a new amigaOS5 and >some newer, more awesome pci based sound card. Pity. >troy >--------- End forwarded message ---------- >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:55:52 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3021 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3024 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 08:55:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id IAA23051for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:05:53 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01843for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:44:19 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1ec5a33cd2d2644f23800ceec8bf2baa On 28-Aug-98, troy silvey wrote: > would be busy doing it instead of photography. I once estimated about > $3500US might be made. I would be very surprised if it was as much as that now. AHI for AD516 would be a public service much appreciated by a small group of users, not a source of income. The best bet if Kenny is really too busy would be to spread this info around and hope it gets picked up by a good programmer. > Ah well, I have rambled enough. I honestly have lost most of my > fire for the revival of S16 and Bars and Pipes. I think by the time we > have more for the S16 cards, we will be buying a new amigaOS5 and > some newer, more awesome pci based sound card. Pity. I am inclined to think the time has come to start on a new program with the same modular approach as B&P but written for OS5, and probably in Java. There are of course some very good programs out there already (Cubase etc), but B&P has a special attitude and meshes well with video and multimedia. Audio in Java seems to be fairly embryonic at the moment but it is being worked on. Structures such as linked lists (which B&P uses throughout) are well supported. In the same way as OS5 is planned as a new OS with the traditional Amiga spirit, we need a new music program with the spirit of B&P. A core program which makes use of plug in modules gives various authors a chance to make a bit of money writing plugins, as happens with Photoshop or Lightwave. From what I have seen of Java it seems well suited to this modular approach. Its main disadvantage is that it is still under construction. An obvious advantage is that porting to several OSs is fairly easy (the claim that Java applications just work on any OS is probably exaggerated). What do people think? Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:41:38 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3025 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 15:41:00 Message-ID: <19980828.104142.56.1.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id OAA05854for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:43:50 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08427for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:21:58 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 55fe8dc43f4d3bb8dcdc36e3712d84de >Why not release this information publicly on the Aminet or something, >so anyone who cares could have a go? I have no problem with that in support of all things amiga. I would like to support kenny and his efforts in every way. But if he is unable to do his work because of his other obligations, then there is no reason others could not explore this. I had no Ideal the small tempest I may have unleashed with my response to these recent messages. My private mail has lit up with some interesting plots I was not aware of. I have no reason or desire to hurt kenny's efforts. He has my support. But if it is obvious that he will not be able to complete his projects, then someone else should have the opportunity. I'm holding up while waiting to hear from kenny about this. I want to do the best I can for amiga, S16, kenny and everyone else. All of a sudden, that may be in slight conflict. I hope not. More soon. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:47:21 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3025 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3027 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 16:47:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA07699for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:49:37 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10342for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:28:23 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 050d741ee1682acc12c626bb76124d28 Hello troy On 28-Aug-98, troy silvey wrote: >> Why not release this information publicly on the Aminet or something, >> so anyone who cares could have a go? > > I have no problem with that in support of all things amiga. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put it on the Young Monkey site? Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 28 Aug 98 19:20:59 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3028 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: All Subject: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 19:20:01 Message-ID: <1581.544T2980T11604569@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA12006for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:24:18 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12105for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 19:02:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 882ec3fe35a4f6bf9fb6c5198ba1d1ab After the posts I have decided to release the info I have to Aminet. I'm not sure exactly when, but in near future. The info is limited, but it's possible to figure it out by spending some time with it.. I _was_ hoping to gain a small compensation for the effort. Troy mentioned some numbers and is what I have figured out too, a USD 3300,- _optimally_ for an AHI driver, /if/ Martin accept a "commercial" driver for his freeware system (he must add a MODE-ID number for his system) ! Now, my last year of purly idealistical effort to study the Studio 16 env. has prevented me to earn my usual income. The loss is many times bigger than the number above. In fact, I have payed to carry on with this. I didn't have to start the study, I didn't have to start this mailinglist, I didn't have to create any tools for Studio - I didn't have to bother at all. I don't blame anyone, but Sunrize stopped their business three years ago and you shouldn't really expect something at all. I know I didn't. I have gotten many motivating posts, but I have also gotten critical posts, childish posts and manipulating posts. Some seem to think of me as a large company with a hotline for angry customers. I am a PRIVATE person and doing this of before mentioned, idealistical reasons. Oh btw, my shareware stuff: I have sold two copies of QMaster and two copies of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to put more effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware stuff too..), I neither have the time to finish the projects. Are you happy now trenn ? - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From beachler@iastate.edu Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:56:53 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3028 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3029 (database) From: Rich Beachler To: studio16 Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 19:56:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA17417for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:50:10 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15328for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:28:41 +0200 X-Sender: beachler@pop-2.iastate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 71af0c23463562b41204fc6a17a1dd7e Kenny, and all, I could see this coming. Someone gets frustrated because they can't get something when they want it, or feel they need it. They speak up, but use a negative tone to express their frustration. Sometimes it's accusations, sometimes it's nasty comments or names. It's the end result that's always the same. They cause a process to collapse, often not getting what they sought, and even more often, ending up with less than they had to begin with. >Now, my last year of purly idealistical effort to study the Studio 16 env. >has prevented me to earn my usual income. The loss is many times bigger than >the number above. In fact, I have payed to carry on with this. I didn't have >to start the study, I didn't have to start this mailinglist, I didn't have >to create any tools for Studio - I didn't have to bother at all. I don't >blame anyone, but Sunrize stopped their business three years ago and you >shouldn't really expect something at all. I know I didn't. > >I have gotten many motivating posts, but I have also gotten critical posts, >childish posts and manipulating posts. Some seem to think of me as a large >company with a hotline for angry customers. I am a PRIVATE person and doing >this of before mentioned, idealistical reasons. > >Oh btw, my shareware stuff: I have sold two copies of QMaster and two copies >of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to put more >effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware stuff too..), I >neither have the time to finish the projects. Kenny may put the docs on Aminet, but his implied withdrawal from the process that is this list, his programming efforts, his pursuit of the necessary knowledge, his negotiations with Ben Fuller, is a loss much greater than the gain. He has put much unselfish effort into all of this. He has asked for very little. The least he deserves is some courtesy concerning his changing personal life. I'm as anxious as the next person to see AHI happen, but cannot do it myself (no matter how good the docs are). I reluctantly have to be patient and wait, but cannot fault someone because of changing circumstances. I can only say "Thank you for your continued efforts, please continue to do what you can". It's not only the "right thing to say", it's what I honestly feel. >Are you happy now trenn ? I certainly am not. Please reconsider Kenny. If anything, please see this as a challenge instead of a criticism. I'm sure most readers of this list could use AHI immediately. I'll gladly pay upfront but I know this won't buy you more actual time to do it (which looks to be your scarcest resource). Here's hoping this thread takes an upward turn from here... Rich Beachler beachler@iastate.edu ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From greenboy@bigsky.net Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:19:11 -0600 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3028 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3031 (database) From: greenboy To: studio16 Subject: S16> Recent Developments Here Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 21:19:00 Message-ID: <005c01bdd2c1$1e914580$a8e5fcce@greenboy> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA23353for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:19:03 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18455for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:57:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 03dbb350da21857791dc69861c94c8ed >Kenny Nilsen : I have gotten many motivating posts, but I have also >gotten critical posts, childish posts and manipulating posts. Some seem >to think of me as a large company with a hotline for angry customers. I >am a PRIVATE person and doing this of before mentioned, idealistical >reasons. > >Oh btw, my shareware stuff: I have sold two copies of QMaster and two >copies of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to >put more effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware >stuff too..), I neither have the time to finish the projects. > >Are you happy now trenn ? Well, I wasn't going to say anything, since -- as I've mentioned previously, I sold my AD516. But I am sad to see angry little boy attitudes in some quarters -trenn- (but I've sniffed that action before, and it left a bad smell for awhile). I am also sorry to hear that your shareware experiences were not more renumerative, Kenny. Actually I'm quite shocked that people were not more forthcoming, but I suppose it was the typical Amiga wait-and-see. I wish you well in your future endeavors, Kenny. Troy, good luck in your quests. Seems that it must be frustrating to know what must be done, and be able to do nothing -- for all of us for that matter. But it has been a educational goad for you I suppose. We can both look forward to future glories I'm sure. If I were to find fault anywhere it would be with the obstructionists responsible for what I believe are vindictive actions in not releasing their stranglehold on Sunrize code and docs, as this intellectual property is probably not worth a fig on another platform. The name Sunrize is probably forgotten except on the Amiga as well. Just bundles of opportunistic goodwill, one thinks at times. But it is not ours to say... Don Cox, no more polling. Go forth and multiply! (and ADD, DIVIDE, MOVETO, etc.) OF COURSE we need a cool Amiga sequencer, especially on the 5.x OS. It's a given. Maybe this list can permutate to a more general topic, perhaps moving out of Kenny's hair. I'll continue to lurk. It has been a pleasure to share space, and duel with everyone here, and try to light a few fires. Hope to see all that individualism and energy move on to the 5.x Mitchie machine, where I plan to be in nn months. // T e a m -- greenboy --------------------------------------------- \XX/ A M I G A ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:37:53 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3032 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 21:37:01 Message-ID: <19980828.163753.161.6.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA24678for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:38:39 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18872for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:17:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-9,11,13-23,25,27-28,30-33 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a3a7152ad33e06ce588d6c3c1ca1086d >of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to put more >effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware stuff >too..), I neither have the time to finish the projects. > >Are you happy now trenn ? No we are not happy. I don't know the mail you receive and all the good and bad it contains. I can only imagine. I have stated before and still support kenny. He is the only one of two (young monkeys) who has added ANY thing valuable to S16 since sunrizeand I for one appreciate it. Untill this latest round of mail, I had no ideal of the under currents that have been going on here. And I unintentionally just made it worse, though it seemed that it was coming on it's own anyway. He mentioned also his invisible shareware sales. I for one had not bought one. On my schedule, I only got to DL them and have never even had the chance to use them. But I suspect that with the current state of amiga markets, that an AHI driver would only do slightly better. If kenny or anyone else takes this on it will almost have to be for free, and probably done in secret as far as I can tell from some of the responses I have seen. Just to avoid the B.S. mail. Kenny I can't blame you for wanting to toss it in, but I hope you can find a way to stay. Releasing the dev info to aminet will not help if no one understands it, can't program and doesn't care anyway. If some out there was interested, I think we may have already heard back from some one given the usenet and many amiga news postings on amiga.org and AWD. If kenny's calling it quits, will the last one out of the list please turn out the lights? And maybe we will see you all again on OS5. :( troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From kenny@bgnett.no 28 Aug 98 23:06:57 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3022 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3033 (database) From: Kenny Nilsen To: Craig Blackman Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 23:06:01 Message-ID: <4861.544T2854T13865275@bgnett.no> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA26543for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:10:05 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19897for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:48:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 81cdf9566214993f5943dc48381a076d Craig Blackman wrote: >Really interested to see how AHI would work with Studio16. Nicer >still to work with the AD516. No one knows really. I will explain the strategic of the AHI driver I was planning so anyone interrested can have a go when I release the info. To allow AHI and Studio 16 to interchange there must be a interface to "convert" between the two as they use different methods of getting data (for the API of it atleast). Studio 16 uses disk buffering (memory buffering internal, but as we don't have access to this we're stuck with disk buffering). AHI uses memory buffering. After looking at several options I found the best way, together with Martin (author of AHI), to do this interfacing is to create a dos handler (the one put in the L: drawer). The handler would look like this: Studio 16 disk read/write <--> HANDLER <--> AHI memory read/write | | | \|/ Dynamical allocated buffer set by global prefs controlled by user with counters. Resource handling. To achieve double buffering a counter must trace the memory copying from every single read or write. The trigger points will occure every buffer/2. When counter=buffer/2 or counter=buffer a message is sent to AHI to change buffers. This way you will have complete control on where Studio 16 is in writing or reading the files and you will get true double buffering. A small overhead is also present and will probably reduce number of channels in work simultainously on a semi system. There should be no problem whatsoever to use stereo (two channels) in and out though. Problems to work around: - Studio 16 uses two files for stereo. How to allocate and trigger them in sync from within the handler. - How to alloc resources for Studio 16 fast enough for programs using AHI. You might expect instant play, but you won't get that with an AHI driver for Studio 16. That's just how it is.. - How to communicate with the handler to share datas for buffers and other resources. How to track the resources. - How to stop playing/recording fast enough for AHI. - Studio 16 deallocates some resources after stopping (a small bug when multi-triggering samples). How can the resources be re-used when AHI for example request a freeing of the already freed resources.. - Rule of the tumb - there will always be more problems during development... You also need to write a complete new dos-handler. Of course, a few limitations such as only allow two channels beeing allocated etc. would make it a bit easier. Preallocated channels that got inited with the new file(s) is one solution, but here bugs strikes. Every problem here within could be avoided if the knowledge about how to directly interface the DSP in co-operation with Studio 16 were available. Ok, I have a hardware map Ben was so kind to give me on the DSP addresses etc. (I was told that there doesn't exist any other info), but the information is to short and partly cryptic and I have no experience with DSP programming so I'm unable to dechiffer it completly. Hopefully, someone else is able to. You also have to understand that the Studio 16 environment is full of small bugs. They aren't usually noticed when used with the specialized program Studio 16 and modules, but you notice them well when using the environment from external programs. This will also include an AHI driver. A particular bug will make things frustrating. Studio 16 allow you to select auto_close for file and auto_dealloc for channel when allocating a channel. However, when /not/ choosing any of these options Studio 16 still deallocates. This is sometimes noticed using the arexx interface. I also had some headace to work around this with the NewPlay program. An AHI driver written for the Studio 16 API will work with both AD516 and AD1012; just to clear that up btw. Personally I would rather create a complete new and good sample editor and include direct interface to Studio 16 with own drivers capable of memory- and diskbuffering. This would allow future/other cards to use the sample editor as well. Effects and functions would be added with plugins etc. I would add envelope editor for filters and every other effects (in fact I have already created lo/mid/high/notch pass filters with variable cutoff freq. and a phase/flanger with variable delay - all in realtime controlled by moving the mouse up and down, but no friendly interface). I really want to create something like this all-in-one thingy, plugin based, but I'm behind - way behind. I program 68k asm and I don't know PPC asm or C well enough to work structured and continously. - Kenny ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From baff@baff.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:23:56 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3029 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3034 (database) From: Brian A. Fields To: studio16 Subject: RE: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 22:23:01 Message-ID: <000201bdd2ca$29b115e0$5685d2d0@peecee1> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA27779for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:29:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20374for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:08:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 1a5605c60aad3ec3f3aad8f0e10b6432 > I can only say "Thank you for your continued > efforts, please > continue to do what you can". It's not only the "right thing to say", it's > what I honestly feel. > > >Are you happy now trenn ? > I certainly am not. Please reconsider Kenny. If anything, please see this > Here's hoping this thread takes an upward turn from here... > > Rich Beachler > beachler@iastate.edu Hear,hear. :^) -Brian F. - baff@baff.com ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From dupont3@juno.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:25:01 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3035 (database) From: dupont3 To: studio16 Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 10:25:00 Message-ID: <19980828.023654.-4188855.5.dupont3@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA28354for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:37:53 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20552for studio16-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:16:56 +0200 X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.9 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2,5-11,13-58 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6412f5b76536137e05808bef2f3f29a5 I would sure appreciate Kenny posting the developer docs and Studio 16 3.0 code on Aminet . I think you have to give much respect to Kenny for what he has done for the Studio16 system so far. I would like to know why is it that Kenny is the only one who understands the Studio 16 material? Are there other programmers out there that can do it? If so who are they? Thank you for your reply. Ciao, dupont On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:37:53 -0400 tc_silvey@juno.com (troy silvey) writes: >>of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to put >more >>effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware stuff >>too..), I neither have the time to finish the projects. >> >>Are you happy now trenn ? > >No we are not happy. I don't know the mail you receive and >all the good and bad it contains. I can only imagine. I have stated >before and still support kenny. He is the only one of two (young >monkeys) >who has added ANY thing valuable to S16 since sunrizeand I for one >appreciate it. Untill this latest round of mail, I had no ideal of the >under >currents that have been going on here. And I unintentionally just made >it worse, >though it seemed that it was coming on it's own anyway. >He mentioned also his invisible shareware sales. I for one had not >bought one. On my schedule, I only got to DL them and have never >even had the chance to use them. But I suspect that with the current >state of amiga markets, that an AHI driver would only do slightly >better. >If kenny or anyone else takes this on it will almost have to be for >free, >and probably done in secret as far as I can tell from some of the >responses I have seen. Just to avoid the B.S. mail. >Kenny I can't blame you for wanting to toss it in, but I hope you >can find a way to stay. Releasing the dev info to aminet will not >help >if no one understands it, can't program and doesn't care anyway. If >some out >there was interested, I think we may have already heard back from >some one >given the usenet and many amiga news postings on amiga.org and AWD. >If kenny's calling it quits, will the last one out of the list please >turn out >the lights? And maybe we will see you all again on OS5. > >:( troy > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno >at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list >(unofficial) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From animate@castles.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:47:46 -0700 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3033 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3036 (database) From: Daniel W. Schallock To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 00:47:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id XAA06193for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:49:01 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22318for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:27:15 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: e9284f691e5d027759e9fbc02d4b7243 Hello. I am a studio16 owner and user. I have been reading this list for about 6 months (I think) . I have always enjoyed the inofrmation and felt lucky that there was still people working to better this great product. I have never written because I haven't had a good question yet. But with all the bad comments passing by in the last couple days I felt it time to speak up. It's true that the negative voice is usually the most often heard, and the postitive one is missed. How to help? I was honestly suprised that the new Utilities written by our host have not sold to many (appranently only 2 copies or something like that.) I have downloaded them, but also have not tried them. I'm sure there great. And what's more they symbolize continued support. I would bet there are a lot of people like me who read this list but don't speak up. I would like to pose a affirmitive action (If it would help). for everyone who would like to see continued support of these utilities and possibly more to register and buy them all now. If we could all write in our commitments, and then send a check, I bet our positive actions would speak louder then some negative words. So I'll start it. I don't even know who many util's you've written for the A516 or how much they are. AND NO I'M NOT RICH, but you all I both know we can come up with a bit when we need it. I hope this helps set the future in a better direction. I hearby pledge to buy a copy of all the util's Kenny has written thus far. Please send me mailing information and I'll send it today. If you are like me, please step forward now and put a little money where our thoughts are, and lets make this go in a positive direction instead of a negative one. Sincerely, Daniel W. Schallock animate@castles.com ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:33:35 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3035 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3037 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 04:33:00 Message-ID: <19980828.233336.12110.3.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA19946for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 03:23:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27035for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 05:02:02 +0200 References: <19980828.023654.-4188855.5.dupont3@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-13,15-26 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 4d700677893025106c163186427f5185 >I would like to know why is it that Kenny is the only one who >understands the Studio 16 material? Are there other programmers out >there that can do it? If so who are they? There is a world wide shortage of good professional programmers. In the US, with 2 years of average exsperience you can start at a salary of $60-65k/year US funds. And a good amiga programmer that is not already programming windows programs for about $100US and hour, is about as rare as a white tiger. Now find a white tiger that has spent his time studying only studio16. On planet earth you find only one so far. Named Kenny. The only others who could do it are the original S16 programmers, but they are now working for mac and windows projects making too much to think about coming back to amiga. Except for a brief and suprising visit by ben fuller, none other will talk to us. I am the only other person I know who is trying to program amiga AND is interested in S16 and B&P. If kenny is a college level programmer, then that would put me at about 5th grade. I'm just not good enough yet to do it. I've spent the last 8 months learning C and amiga, and I predict another year of work to be productive on any kind of a professional level. Too little to late maybe, but it will put me in demand for amigaOS5 projects I hope. That should about cover the question I hope :) troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:56:00 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3036 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3038 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: I'll pay for it and frame it! Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 03:56:00 Message-ID: <19980828.233336.12110.1.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id DAA19945for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 03:23:21 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27029for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 05:02:01 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,7-22 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: bc28ed5303858ec3220a380d9de8a9c7 >How to help? >speak up. I would like to pose a affirmitive action (If it would help). >for everyone who would like to see continued support of these >utilities and possibly more to register and buy them all now. If we could all write >pledge to buy a copy of all the util's Kenny has written thus far. >Please send me mailing information and I'll send it today. Most excellently spoken. Count me in. Kenny mail me directly or post your information on the list once more and I will pay the registration for Qmaster and I'll even pay the same price for Newplay. I don't even think you ask for a registration on Newplay, but I'm paying it any way. At this point I have not gotten to use either, and even if I never do, I think you deserve the support. An amiga project may wither and die, but it won't be said that I didn't do as much as I could to help. Send the info once more please. And how does someone in norway get paid from the USA any way? troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Fri, 28 Aug 1998 19:15:54 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3028 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3039 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 19:15:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id HAA05800for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:30:47 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30141for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:09:20 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b440d3201fc4c0bff2b71bd4b3415ad4 Hello Kenny > Oh btw, my shareware stuff: I have sold two copies of QMaster and two copies > of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to put more > effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware stuff too..), I > neither have the time to finish the projects. I would say, keep them on the market, because it can be a long time between when one says "I could use that" and actually sending the money off. Certainly I usually have a long list of software and shareware to work through. I did sell a few dozen copies of my Pro Page Arexx scripts, but that was back in the days when Amigas were popular, and the price was very low. The hourly rate would be tiny. The reason for writing Amiga software cannot be to make money: I think it is to help your friends. Of course there are idiots around who have no idea of the economics and think programmers are all big corporations. SMPTEcontrol is good. Thanks. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From westdunn@cyberus.ca Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:15:24 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 2989 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3040 (database) From: Bill Dunn To: studio16 Subject: Re: test Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 05:15:00 Message-ID: <35E78057.2CC3ABD0@cyberus.ca> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA06897for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:16:58 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02982for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:53:55 +0200 Organization: West/Dunn Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 579c4a4412ccb8620bedffa887bb3784 That click re-moval sounds very interesting to us who are trying to restore some old records. Bill Dunn ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From westdunn@cyberus.ca Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:31:00 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3000 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3041 (database) From: Bill Dunn To: studio16 Subject: Re: SMPTE video Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 05:31:00 Message-ID: <35E783FD.C60A215C@cyberus.ca> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA07962for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:31:53 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03472for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:09:20 +0200 Organization: West/Dunn Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199808202256.SAA27735@camel14.mindspring.com> <9808242023.AA019s9@meta.burner.com> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 33f1237ccdc0a7045eb7de659b871bcc Hey we just finished a 17.5 minute master mix on the AD512 with Horita SMPTE. After setting the record level of the SMPTE to -8db all worked very well. Then sent it over to the MAC G3 and married it up with the Picture in Radius EDIT DV. All worked as advertised. Bill Dunn ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From westdunn@cyberus.ca Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:34:30 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3042 (database) From: Bill Dunn To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 05:34:00 Message-ID: <35E784CE.9100AD07@cyberus.ca> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA08185for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:35:10 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03647for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:12:57 +0200 Organization: West/Dunn Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <609.541T2373T11644170@bgnett.no> Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c426a734204f47d663d1d3f504e86c57 Kenny, Sounds great the pro-photographer thingy. AS one who has shot 7UP ads etc for 25 years, then graduating to films, I can only wish you well. All your programming skills will come in mighty handy. Bill Dunn ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From 101.7455@relay.germany.net Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:37:55 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3029 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3043 (database) From: Jeffrey L. Burford <101.7455@relay.germany.net> To: Rich Beachler Subject: Re: Dev info Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 23:37:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA09022for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:48:53 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04271for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:26:29 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.2 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by odin.thule.no id RAA04266 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 20e2fd9ae474e742d71735e65691d72d I would suggest that everyone on this mailing list send $10 or $20 to Kenny for his past time, effort and dedication that he has provided in allowing us to keep the spririt and dream alive. Jeffrey L. Burford Frankfurt/Germany "AMIGA, Where The Future Lies in Your Hands" ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From bygarcia@suffolk.lib.ny.us Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:34:48 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3002 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3044 (database) From: Luis Garcia To: studio16 Subject: Re: Future plans Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 00:34:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id RAA15151for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:27:10 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06003for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:05:25 +0200 Importance: High X-Mailer: YAM 2.0.0 Preview [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 27b7ac7c3652a448f843318f39b175bd Kenny! I would like like to thank you for your time and efforts by regis Q-Master and Newplay. I trully feel everyone should show their support now! Sorry if i had not replied before but i had so little time to even check out your programs for the AD516 . And still really haven't check out Q-Master completly but i'm very shure it works great! Please give me your mailing address and Kenny Thanks You! so much for your time...... GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEW JOB! There's a little misconseption in the Amiga community! We must all pledge our support for all the programers like Kenny. by purchasing there programs if We Really Love The Amiga! The Time To Show It is NOW! Regards L.Garcia Kenny please dont abandone us now! All of us on this list need you and these projects to be completed and so does The AMIGA Just think $$$$ Thanks Kenny for all your time and efforts.. Regards L. Garcia On 25-Aug-98, Kenny Nilsen wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Not much summer to enjoy anyway (no sun and lots of work..) - I'm back behind > the keys, but not for long. I have got a new job as a pro photographer and am > loaded with work, and it will get worse later this autum and by christmas > time. In addition we're gonna install a brand new digital lab during the next > half year so that means I have not much time left to program anything for > the Amiga. > > My list of projects will be however: > > - AHI (if "possible") for Studio 16 > - A new mixer module for Studio 16 > - A new modular sample editor with direct interface to Studio 16. > > > regards, > - Kenny > > > ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) > Kind regards ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From Brrr@aol.com Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:13:10 EDT X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3045 (database) From: Brrr To: studio16 Subject: Re: I'll pay for it, Me too! Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 19:13:00 Message-ID: <177381df.35e844b6@aol.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id SAA18203for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:14:17 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08085for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:53:18 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 6585ef53071908d0ed89d2252c4b105d In a message dated 8/28/98 11:30:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tc_silvey@juno.com writes: << Most excellently spoken. Count me in. Kenny mail me directly or post your information on the list once more and I will pay the registration for Qmaster and I'll even pay the same price for Newplay. I don't even think you ask for a registration on Newplay, but I'm paying it any way. At this point I have not gotten to use either, and even if I never do, I think you deserve the support. An amiga project may wither and die, but it won't be said that I didn't do as much as I could to help. Send the info once more please. And how does someone in norway get paid from the USA any way? >> I'd like to echo that, Kenny...and pledge some dollars to send you. Please don't feel shy about telling us how to send the funds...you've more than earned it! Burr Huntington ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From masquith@bellatlantic.net 29 Aug 98 14:59:13 +0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3024 (There are more replies.) X-Message-No: 3046 (database) From: Mike Masquith To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 10:59:00 Message-ID: <35E81741.MD-0.198.masquith@bellatlantic.net> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA25180for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:00:38 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10211for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:39:23 +0200 Organization: Barkin' Beaver Studios Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS 0.198 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 5a11e52ec49778f8970d11e11d633eda .snip. > I would be very surprised if it was as much as that now. AHI for AD516 > would be a public service much appreciated by a small group of users, > not a source of income. Probably quite correct. > I am inclined to think the time has come to start on a new program > with the same modular approach as B&P but written for OS5, and > probably in Java. There are of course some very good programs out > there already (Cubase etc), but B&P has a special attitude and meshes > well with video and multimedia. > Audio in Java seems to be fairly embryonic at the moment but it is > being worked on. Structures such as linked lists (which B&P uses > throughout) are well supported. > In the same way as OS5 is planned as a new OS with the traditional > Amiga spirit, we need a new music program with the spirit of B&P. Yes, and yes. I'm concentrating on learning Java. I can use it at work, and hopefully for the Amiga. A lot of progress needs to be made in the audio area, but in a platform independant way. > A core program which makes use of plug in modules gives various > authors a chance to make a bit of money writing plugins, as happens > with Photoshop or Lightwave. From what I have seen of Java it seems > well suited to this modular approach. Its main disadvantage is that it > is still under construction. I hope I'm right in saying that the momentum for Java is increasing. The 'classic' AND any new Amigas have to take advantage of this. I certainly wish the Merapi (and other) Java efforts would move quicker. We need to be able to do serious Java programming NOW. > An obvious advantage is that porting to several OSs is fairly easy > (the claim that Java applications just work on any OS is probably > exaggerated). > > What do people think? I don't think it's exaggerated. Having written my first serious Java program just recently, and doing lots of reading, platform/OS independance is a reality. It really is built into the language. Keeping it that way with M$ trying to infect the language with Windows specific 'features' is another matter. If few Java programs come out for non-Windows platforms, there will be little 'weight' behind the effort to keep Java independant. -- -Mike Masquith, Barkin' Beaver Studios, VA, USA -A4000/060,CSMK1,CybSCSI Eagle Tower,VLM-Toccata,Ariadne -A3000/040,AD516,Ariadne,YamahaCDR101 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:57:48 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3033 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3047 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Start paddling? Or jump ship? Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 22:57:00 Message-ID: <19980829.175917.6918.3.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA02016for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:49:22 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11436for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:28:20 +0200 References: <4861.544T2854T13865275@bgnett.no> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,10,12-17 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: c998a78347982ab47d7ffd230f5bc055 If Kenny says he can do more with S16 and AHI that is usefull, then I'll do what I can to support him as I would any amiga project. I have already bought software I barely need or use, just to support good amiga efforts for the future. I tried to move my recording work to PC and it was a joke. B&P and S16 does the job so much more reliably. I don't want to, and don't intend to leave them for a long time. AHI would still be very useful for two things on classic amiga. 1.) It would allow me to edit my samples using a more powerfull sample editors that supports AHI. I already have a big need for this. 2.) You could still use it as playback for the latest games supporting AHI. I would pay, no problem, to add these features to my 516. So what's the verdict? Can we get this done, or is it time to go? troy (mr. "to the point") _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From tc_silvey@juno.com Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:30:57 -0400 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3045 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3048 (database) From: troy silvey To: studio16 Subject: Re: I'll pay for it, Me too! Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 21:30:01 Message-ID: <19980829.175917.6918.0.tc_silvey@juno.com> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id VAA02023for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:49:24 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11435for studio16-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:28:19 +0200 References: <177381df.35e844b6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-10 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 7329c4952fa996020f2faecaada48091 >I'd like to echo that, Kenny...and pledge some dollars to send you. >Please don't feel shy about telling us how to send the funds...you've more >than earned it! I found the address in the qmaster.guide in my help dir on my ami. It tells where to send it, but little on how. These international exchanges are a pain. When I figure out the best way, I'll let those who are interested know. troy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:20:34 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3046 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3049 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 21:20:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id LAA24634for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:46:11 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19668for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:23:38 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: b717098c506f9cdea602988d7ec23f8c Hello Mike On 29-Aug-98, Mike Masquith wrote: > Yes, and yes. I'm concentrating on learning Java. I can use it at > work, and hopefully for the Amiga. A lot of progress needs to be made > in the audio area, but in a platform independant way. > We need to be able to do serious Java programming NOW. > I don't think it's exaggerated. Having written my first serious Java > program just recently, and doing lots of reading, platform/OS > independance is a reality. It really is built into the > language. I can envisage software that works on any platform but demonstrably works best on an MMC Amiga - or even an Amiga with a G3 PPC processor and the AA+ chipset. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:52:58 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3050 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: S16>RecentDevelopmentsHere-Kenny_Support!!!!!! Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:52:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA28746for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:52:08 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20319for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:31:11 +0200 X-ROUTED: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:53:08 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 71e7213e16a95154c909c650fd7e605d On Fri, Aug 28, 1998, at 02:19 PM, greenboy wrote: > >Kenny Nilsen : I have gotten many motivating posts, but I have also > >gotten critical posts, childish posts and manipulating posts. Some seem > >to think of me as a large company with a hotline for angry customers. I > >am a PRIVATE person and doing this of before mentioned, idealistical > >reasons. > > > >Oh btw, my shareware stuff: I have sold two copies of QMaster and two > >copies of SmpteCTRL. My programs probably sucks, but I don't want to > >put more effort to program anything else (FYI: there exists freeware > >stuff too..), I neither have the time to finish the projects. > > > >Are you happy now trenn ? It is very sad to hear that Kenny only sold 2 copies of both SMTEControl and Qmaster. I bought them both and i like them both. I would have bought them even when i would not have any purpose for these programs just to support Kenny, the Ad516/Studio16 and the Amiga. All those people on this list who said they buy these programs are i think the same people who has send those critical,childish and manipulating post to Kenny. I think they suck and not Kenny. If you all want to keep The Amiga Alive and this harware (Ad516) we all use you all must support kenny and his software. If you do not like his software or parts of it you should have mentioned this on this list, so Kenny could make some improvement to the software. Togheter we can make this software better. That's how it works in the real world. I think we must continue this list and all together start thinking how to make our Studio16/Ad516 combo better and more suitable for the future. And also talk and do something about the Amiga (Audio/music.Midi/MultiMedia) future. So first all buy SMPTECTRL and Qmaster so Kenny will be motivated to make the all be wished AHI driver for studio16. Rene'(DSP) Schaap --------------------------------------------------------------- NEW VOICE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR THE N.E.T. PRODUCTIONS !!!!!!!!! PLEASE UPDATE THEM IN YOUR AGENDA, DATABASE. ETC ETC. --------------------------------------------------------------- _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 88 (ISDN) FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 89 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From net@dutch.nl Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:53:00 +0900 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3051 (database) From: Rene' Schaap To: studio16 Subject: RE: SMPTE video Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:53:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id MAA28755for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:52:11 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20320for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:31:14 +0200 X-ROUTED: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:53:10 0000 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Net X-Mailer: AEMail (Amiga EMail), Version 1.51, (c) 1997-1998 by John F. Zacharias Organization: No Empty Tape Productions Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 9ef60c4578bb9a80543dc91c5dd55ae5 On Fri, Aug 28, 1998, at 11:31 PM, Bill Dunn wrote: > Hey we just finished a 17.5 minute master mix on the AD512 with Horita > SMPTE. What's Horita SMPTE ???? > After setting the record level of the SMPTE to -8db all worked > very well. Then sent it over to the MAC G3 and married it up with the > Picture in Radius EDIT DV. All worked as advertised. How did you sent it over ????? Tell me more about this Radius EDIT DV. > > Bill Dunn > > Rene'(DSP) Schaap --------------------------------------------------------------- NEW VOICE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR THE N.E.T. PRODUCTIONS !!!!!!!!! PLEASE UPDATE THEM IN YOUR AGENDA, DATABASE. ETC ETC. --------------------------------------------------------------- _ ( ) No Empty tape Productions. ------------------------------ Get your Masterplan ready for the interactive decade. Email : net@Dutch.nl Homepage: http://www.dutch.nl/net Voice : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 88 (ISDN) FAX : 0031 (0)35 52 44 6 89 ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From westdunn@cyberus.ca Sun, 30 Aug 1998 00:11:50 -0500 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3051 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3052 (database) From: Bill Dunn To: studio16 Subject: Re: SMPTE video Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 06:11:01 Message-ID: <35E8DF0A.F2A6167A@cyberus.ca> Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id QAA11978for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:11:57 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22714for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:50:22 +0200 Organization: West/Dunn Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 555a72801a643ea29ce0b6181a3ade07 Horita is the US maker of external SMPTE box that reads and generates SMPTE code. We transfered the MAster Mix via ethernet as an AIFF (MM recorded as AIFF in S16) file which the MAC likes. Radius EditDV vs 1.5 works great. They have a big update due this fall which adds batch capture and ???? Ciao ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From fw@well.com Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:45:41 -0700 (PDT) X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3024 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3053 (database) From: Fred Wright To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 21:45:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id UAA29858for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:46:25 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27460for studio16-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:25:02 +0200 X-Sender: fw@paix-alg-gw1-41.ncal.verio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: a61faba9540cf2b9f0cf8431f7ab312e On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Don Cox wrote: > I am inclined to think the time has come to start on a new program > with the same modular approach as B&P but written for OS5, and > probably in Java. There are of course some very good programs out Oh no, another victim of Javamania. :-) Java makes sense for things where transparent cross-platform use is important, such as browser plugins, but it's performance won't match decent C code compiled for the target system. Unless you anticipate the number of different CPUs being used on new Amigas being so large that multiple compilations is impractical, Java would just be a CPU sink. An *interface* to Java to permit modules in Java for people who really want to do it that way would be OK, but I wouldn't actually write the core program in Java. Fred Wright ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From doncox@enterprise.net Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:10:58 +0100 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-ReplyTo-No: 3053 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 3054 (database) From: Don Cox To: studio16 Subject: Re: Developer Interested. Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 09:10:01 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id IAA17963for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:20:19 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04416for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:58:14 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 2696fa175c7034b95170898294b00995 Hello Fred On 30-Aug-98, Fred Wright wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Don Cox wrote: > >> I am inclined to think the time has come to start on a new program >> with the same modular approach as B&P but written for OS5, and >> probably in Java. There are of course some very good programs out > > Oh no, another victim of Javamania. :-) Java makes sense for things where > transparent cross-platform use is important, Exactly. How else would you write a program that could work on old Amigas, PPC Amigas, MMC Amigas (if they appear), Macs, etc? There is so much uncertainty as to what platform a program might be used on that code needs to be very portable, unless you write for Windows only, which I am not interested in doing. It would be madness to write a program for Amigas at this point: you could work for 2 or 3 years and sell two hundred copies. This would only be practical if you charge workstation prices of a couple of thousand dollars per copy, with expensive dongles. Allan Havemose assured me that Java code would run at 90% of the speed of c++ code. I think on fast PPCs or on the MMC this should be fast enough. Although nobody at AmigaInc has suggested this, I think it's quite likely that the MMC can offer some hardware support for Java. Another reason, not unimportant, is that Java looks like a language I would enjoy using. Obviously tastes differ. Regards -- Don Cox doncox@enterprise.net ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial) From dhomas@youngmonkey.ca Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:14:34 -0300 X-SystemInfo: Studio 16: EMail X-Message-No: 3055 (database) From: dhomas trenn To: studio16 Subject: SoundFX now supports SAVE/LOAD S16 sound files. Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 16:14:00 Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Reply-To: studio16@thule.no Return-Path: Received: from odin.thule.no (majordom@odin.thule.no [195.18.176.82])by bryggen.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.5/brage2.1) with ESMTP id PAA02289for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:29:26 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost)by odin.thule.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09321for studio16-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:07:40 +0200 X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: young monkey studios MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-studio16@thule.no Precedence: bulk X-Errors: kenny@bgnett.no X-LISTHELP: mailto:majordomo@thule.no, put 'HELP' in body X-ARCHIVES: Aminet:docs/misc/Studio16MLmmyy.lha (mm=month, yy=year, eg 0198) X-FAQ: mailto:studio16@emrl.com, put 'get faq' in subject X-UIDL: 56ddc765b51a33f5badb78a120c86216 Just thought everyone would like to know that the latest release of SoundFX supports both LOADING and SAVING of Studio16 format sounds. So, you now have access to THE BEST sample editor on the Amiga. Tons of effects and other great features for a very low registration fee. Grab this new version from Stefan's website: http://www.imn.htwk-leipzig.de/~kost/SoundFX.html Of course you can't audition sounds in SoundFX on the AD516 cards YET; but, you can use the Amiga's internal audio which is just fine for auditioning while working in SoundFX. -- dhomas trenn. ********************************************************* EMail: dhomas@youngmonkey.ca WWW: http://www.youngmonkey.ca/ 797 Mitchell Street, Fredericton, NB, E3B 3S8, Canada Phone: (506) 459-7088 ******************************** young monkey studios *** ** The Studio 16 mailing list (unofficial)