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04.28.27 #       <Seed> Hi
04.44.18 #       <Jamesc> Hi
04.44.33 #       <Seed> Hi Jamesc. How are you?
04.45.11 #       <Jamesc> Tired. :)
04.45.32 #       <Seed> already? :)
04.48.24 #       <Jamesc> Well it IS 9:45PM
04.48.52 #       <Jamesc> :)
04.49.10 #       <Seed> I know :)
04.49.28 #       <Seed> actually, it's about the time I get tired every day :)
04.53.56 #       <Jamesc> You must be Australian at heart :)
04.54.45 #       <Seed> I think I'm French at heart..  but hey, It's possible to be both :)
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05.16.39 #       <Seed> Hi Arvid!
05.19.26 #       <Arvid> hello Seed
05.19.39 #       <Seed> How are you?
05.20.08 #       <Arvid> <-- is barely awake.  Thinking about going out and getting away from the computers for a while
05.20.19 #       <Arvid> But must consume food first
05.20.22 #       <Seed> A very good idea :)
05.20.28 #       <Arvid> yeah
05.24.25 #       <Seed> Gotta go. bye all
05.24.53 #       <Arvid> <-- finds an unusual situation .. the 2.5" hard drive in my 386 notebook has a jumper labelled c/d ... hmmm
05.25.26 #       <Arvid> that particular hard drive was originally installed in an A1200
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13.54.05 #       <DrJekyl> Dave_C 
13.54.10 #       <Rocambole> wb Dave_C 
13.54.19 #       <Dave_C> ok... try it now guys
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13.54.39 #       <Rocambole> Dave_C: back to normal :)
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13.54.54 #       <Dave_C> ;^)
13.55.04 #       <Dave_C> and a new aminet index too!
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13.55.17 #       <Cryto> Ok..  First PW I used the first time was the right one..  What was wrong with darx Dave_C?
13.55.35 #       <Dave_C> I don't know how it was run.
13.55.55 #       <Dave_C> the launch.sh script handles all the stuff involved...
13.56.06 #       <Cryto> Hmm..  Ask War..
13.56.14 #       <Dave_C> no biggie..
13.56.17 #       <Cryto> Its almost as if it had no userfile...  Or just you in it.
13.56.22 #       <Dave_C> it's back to normal now
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13.56.37 #       <Dave_C> no, Cryto was in it
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13.56.44 #       <Dave_C> it just forgot the last ident
13.56.58 #       <Dave_C> so it defaulted you as a non-Cryto
13.57.21 #       <Dave_C> and afforded you level 0
13.57.32 #       <Cryto> Yep. :(
13.57.36 #       <Dave_C> isn't that what it's supposed to do...
13.57.57 #       <Dave_C> aside from forgetting the last ident ... ;^)
13.58.00 #       <Cryto> I idented with the right PW tho, so if it knew me from codeshit, it still shoulda worked..
13.58.14 #       <Dave_C> and if someone unplugged the box...
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13.58.25 #       <Rocambole> Hello StG^sNTx 
13.58.33 #       <Cryto> HI StG^sNTx 
13.58.36 #       <StG^sNTx> ello good people:)
13.59.37 #       <Cryto> Anyway, I will bbl..  Homework time..
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14.00.04 #       <Dave_C> bbl
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14.01.08 #       <StG^sNTx> hmm.. I join and people leave..:\
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14.01.34 #       <StG^sNTx> ello Worzel
14.01.37 #       <DrJekyl> Worzel 
14.01.50 #       <Worzel> hi all
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14.02.01 #       <Rocambole> re all
14.02.01 #       <DrJekyl> wb Rocambole 
14.02.05 #       <Worzel> hi Rocambole 
14.02.12 #       <Rocambole> hello Worzel 
14.02.23 #       <Rocambole> d**n IBrowse
14.02.32 >>>     "sview" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p3.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
14.02.45 #       * Worzel wonders if anyones heard this rumour mentioned on cu-list of Phase 5 shutting business down?
14.02.49 >>>     "sview StG^sNTx " by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p3.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
14.03.19 #       <Rocambole> Worzel: was nothing about that on phase5's homepage
14.03.44 #       <StG^sNTx> Rocambole: nothing about prebox or abox there either...
14.04.12 #       <Worzel> Rocambole: someone posted it to cu list, as possible bad news coming that tony horgan referred to
14.04.14 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: no, maybe thay have closed them
14.04.46 #       <StG^sNTx> Rocambole: when on monday was the irc-session you mentioned to me arlier this week?
14.05.05 #       <Merko> Worzel: I've heard it lots of times, I just forget about it since it doesn't seem likely.
14.05.10 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: MT -5
14.05.26 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: 5.00 GMT -5
14.05.58 #       <StG^sNTx> Rocambole: gimme the cet or I'm bound to count hours the wrong way or something:)
14.06.15 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: we are GMT +1
14.06.59 #       <StG^sNTx> Rocambole: meaning 01:00?
14.06.59 #       <Worzel> whoops, not Tony Horgan, Andrew Korn said that there was some bad news about to come out
14.07.11 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: 23.00
14.07.20 #       <StG^sNTx> Rocambole: almost got it:)
14.07.52 #       <StG^sNTx> Worzel: not tony and andrew? then who?
14.08.04 #       <Worzel> then someone called Amorel posted saying he'd heard that Phase 5 were closing down
14.08.56 #       <Worzel> StG^sNTx: was andrew, not tony
14.09.54 #       <StG^sNTx> Worzel: my mistake, sorry:)
14.10.07 #       <Worzel> Merko: cu amiga closing didn't seem likely
14.10.32 #       <StG^sNTx> brb
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14.10.53 #       <Merko> Worzel: No, it's rather strange I must say. But, well.. I can live without them even though I subscribed since '92..
14.10.59 #       <DrJekyl> wb StG^sNTx 
14.11.09 #       <StG^sNTx> thnx doc:)
14.11.14 #       <DrJekyl> Worzel: read my version of why it did close :/
14.11.55 #       <StG^sNTx> anyone know when the last cu will be out?
14.12.08 #       <Merko> Hmm.. maybe this week?
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14.12.20 #       <Yoshi> Hi!
14.12.21 #       <StG^sNTx> k
14.12.23 #       <StG^sNTx> Yoshi!
14.13.08 #       <Rocambole> hello Yoshi 
14.14.41 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: I guess CU will be here next week. AF came this week
14.14.57 #       <Rocambole> StG^sNTx: october issues that is
14.15.23 #       <Worzel> cu is usually around 14th of month
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14.15.46 #       <Worzel> DrJekyl: hmmm, file aborted
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14.16.57 #       <Rocambole> wb StG^sNTx 
14.17.03 #       <StG^sNTx> lag is phun:\
14.18.59 #       <StG^sNTx> any news btw?
14.19.30 #       <Yoshi> StG^sNTx: nope
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14.21.59 #       <Rocambole> wb Yoshi 
14.22.06 #       <StG^sNTx> wb Yoshi
14.22.28 #       <Yoshi> hmmm...  33k6 at my ISP is actually faster than 57k6...
14.22.47 #       <Worzel> wb Yoshi 
14.25.56 #       <Merko> What cdfilesystem is it that supports joliet?
14.26.01 #       <Yoshi> is anybody else experiencing 10000ms pings to his ISP when using 56k?
14.26.24 #       <Yoshi> Merko: CacheCDFS
14.26.28 #       * StG^sNTx is stuck with a 28.8 modem, so...
14.26.50 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Tnx!
14.27.03 #       <Yoshi> StG^sNTx: I bought a cheap 56k one a few days ago
14.27.52 #       <StG^sNTx> how big a difference is it?
14.28.14 #       <Worzel> Yoshi: ~3400ms, which still ain't good :(
14.28.51 #       <Yoshi> StG^sNTx: I can't say much, since I only get a few minutes of high speed transfer and then my ISP seems to go dead for a few min (10000ms pings, etc.)
14.29.14 #       <Yoshi> StG^sNTx: this only happens with 56k (which has a different phone number).  up to 33k6 works fine.
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14.29.24 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: Normally, I have 200-300ms...
14.29.24 #       <Rocambole> hello Jamesc 
14.29.31 #       <Rocambole> hello wurzel 
14.29.31 #       <Yoshi> hi Jamesc 
14.29.32 #       <Worzel> hi Jamesc wurzel 
14.29.34 #       <StG^sNTx> Yoshi: ok...
14.29.38 #       <StG^sNTx> ello Jamesc
14.29.41 #       <wurzel> Rocambole: hello :)
14.29.43 #       <Yoshi> hi wurzel 
14.29.45 #       <StG^sNTx> ello Worzel
14.29.50 #       <Worzel> Yoshi: everythings on go slow tonight it seems
14.29.54 #       <Rocambole> Jamesc: goodmorning to you :)
14.30.22 #       <wurzel> Worzel: Hi there, so my StrICQ was right: you are online ;)
14.30.33 #       <wurzel> StG^sNTx: Hello 
14.30.39 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: I'm fine over here at 33k6 now, downloading MP3's at over 3500cps :)
14.30.42 #       <wurzel> Gosh, wot a welcome :)
14.30.55 #       <Jamesc> Morning All!!
14.31.03 #       <Worzel> wurzel: yep :))
14.31.14 #       <wurzel> Oh, Yoshi , hello, didn't mean to miss you ;)
14.32.32 #       <wurzel> Rocambole: Got the latest version of StrICQ, V5.?. Seems really good. Thanks for your help with this ;)
14.32.41 #       <Rocambole> wurzel: what is your STRICQ ID?
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14.33.25 #       <Rocambole> wurzel: 0.688 is the latest I think
14.33.28 #       * Worzel has V0.688 of STRICQ, works with Genesis too
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14.34.14 #       <Rocambole> hello ExiE 
14.34.16 #       <Yoshi> where can I get that version?
14.34.33 #       <ExiE> Roca!Yoshi!James!
14.34.36 #       <Yoshi> hi ExiE 
14.34.48 #       <ExiE> Yoshi: no updates tonight ?
14.34.50 #       <ExiE> :)))
14.34.57 #       <wurzel> Rocambole: 18233176
14.35.00 #       <Worzel> Yoshi: if you want i'll send it
14.35.06 #       <Yoshi> ExiE: no news = no updates :-(
14.35.22 #       <ExiE> :)
14.35.26 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: Rocambole was faster. :)
14.35.31 #       <Yoshi> Rocambole: Thanks. :)
14.35.41 #       <ExiE> no news = good news in these times :)))
14.35.52 #       <wurzel> Rocambole: My mistake, STRICQ 0.560 (22.08.98)
14.35.57 #       <Yoshi> ExiE: not necessarily...
14.35.58 #       <Rocambole> Yoshi: np :)
14.36.00 #       <Worzel> Yoshi: want the new STricq notify rexx script?
14.36.24 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: What's that?
14.36.54 #       <Jamesc> Anyone seen someone with a name like "Neanderthal" come through?
14.36.59 #       <Worzel> Yoshi: later version of the rexx script thats in stricq 0.688 rexx dir, allows you to be offline, etc
14.37.43 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: Send it. :)  Thanks.
14.45.26 #       <wurzel> Does anyone know what the bad news is Jason Compton hinted at?
14.45.34 #       <Yoshi> wurzel: where?
14.45.46 #       <wurzel> I think it was TA ML
14.46.00 #       <wurzel> It could have been CU ML, Yoshi 
14.46.23 #       <Worzel> wurzel: was cu m/list
14.46.36 #       <wurzel> Worzel: Thanks, mate.
14.47.14 #       <Worzel> wurzel: and Andy Korn agreed there was some on way
14.47.51 #       <wurzel> Worzel: Yeah, but he wouldn't say what it was either :(
14.48.29 #       <Worzel> wurzel: except the one post by someone saying P5 were shutting shop :(
14.48.48 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: That wouldn't come as a surprise...
14.49.04 #       <wurzel> Worzel: Ah, I missed that one. That may well be it.
14.49.14 #       <Worzel> wurzel: hope it isn't
14.49.23 #       <Yoshi> Worzel: Like ExiE mentioned on his pages, Wolf got of the ICOA ML...
14.49.31 #       <Yoshi> of=off
14.49.43 #       <ExiE> :)
14.49.52 #       <ExiE> But he is off only from mailing list
14.49.55 #       <wurzel> Worzel: Me, to, any one closing ATM is bad news :(
14.50.22 #       <ExiE> Ditrich is part of some council 
14.50.29 #       <ExiE> as i remember
14.50.36 #       <Merko> Yup. He was elected.
14.50.40 #       <Yoshi> BTW, read some bits about PIOS: apparently they're pretty successful with their G3 accelerators...
14.50.49 #       <Yoshi> (for Mac :(
14.51.04 #       <wurzel> On the good side, I climbed 984 places in the RC5 challenge: now I'm 78159th !
14.51.18 #       <ExiE> i think nut many people will requre accelerators for mac with huge start of imac 
14.51.33 #       <ExiE> will better buy new model
14.51.55 #       <Yoshi> ExiE: many people put loads of money in their "old" Macs and won't leave it for a non-SCSI 15" model...
14.52.39 #       <Merko> I haven't heard much about IMac.. does it STILL have built-in monitor?!
14.53.14 #       <Yoshi> Merko: yes, that's the main idea behind it, I suppose :)
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14.53.37 #       <ExiE> its cheap and fast !
14.53.42 #       <Merko> Yoshi: That wasn't nice said. ;D
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14.54.10 #       <Yoshi> Merko: what wasn't nice said?
14.54.16 #       <ExiE> they are noe making big advertisiments in US trying beat PCs on market
14.54.20 #       <Rocambole> wb wurzel 
14.54.29 #       <Merko> Yoshi: That the main idea behind the IMac is to put a monitor glued onto it. ;D
14.54.47 #       <wurzel> Rocambole: Thanks, tried to join CU as well but pressed "connect"
14.55.16 #       <Merko> But.. IMac *only* comes with 15"??
14.55.20 #       <Yoshi> Merko: The main idea was to have an "easy to use" computer.  One that doesn't require 10 different plugs, is easily transportable, etc....
14.55.27 #       <Yoshi> Merko: Yep, only 15" (AFAIK)
14.55.30 #       <ExiE> now imac is only first model
14.55.51 #       <ExiE> but u can use seconf monitor :)
14.56.06 #       <Yoshi> if they were to do a 19" Imac, I wouldn't want to be the one to move it arround. :)
14.56.14 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Well, a monitor isn't hard to use.. ppl know how to connect a TV to their videos, they can also manage to connect a monitor to their computer imho. ;D
14.56.24 #       <Yoshi> ExiE: Yes, but I think the gfx card only has 2 MB (IIRC)...
14.57.17 #       <ExiE> nope
14.57.19 #       <Merko> 2MB?! You've gotta be joking.. I heard nice things about IMac!
14.57.23 #       <Yoshi> Merko: Of course, but it's easier to assemble, easier to transport, easier to fix ("got any problem?  bring *it* back to your dealer" :)
14.57.25 #       <ExiE> its 4GB 
14.57.35 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I have to verify the 2 MB
14.57.40 #       <ExiE> if i read well
14.57.44 #       <Yoshi> ExiE: I was talking about gfx card memory
14.58.06 #       <ExiE> me too :)
14.58.09 #       <ExiE> i will look
14.59.29 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I just verified in German mag "c't":  the Imac has 2 MB SGRAM gfx memory.
14.59.33 #       <ExiE> 2MB of SGRAM video memory; supports up to 6MB via SO-DIMM slot
14.59.46 #       <ExiE> directly from apple.com
14.59.54 #       <wurzel> Ah, gotta go, getting a small guru :( Must clear system ..
15.00.01 Quit    wurzel (:Bye all, gotta get some sleep ;-))
15.00.16 #       <ExiE> 6MB is usable :)))
15.00.38 #       <ExiE> http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html
15.00.48 #       <ExiE> i know i see it somewhere
15.00.57 #       <Yoshi> 2 MB is enough for the 15", but not enough for a 19" or better (believe me, I only have 2 MB :)
15.01.09 #       <Merko> 2MB would mean 780*590 max in 24(32)-bit.. what mac-person would want that?!
15.01.11 #       <ExiE> there are some tables with 2MB and 4MB and resolutions/.colors
15.01.34 #       <ExiE> 800 by 600 95 Hz 24-bit, millions of colors
15.01.42 #       <ExiE> 1,024 by 768 75 Hz 16-bit, thousands of colors
15.01.46 #       <ExiE> with 2MB
15.02.02 #       <Merko> 4mb isn't nearly enough for 17" imho, but maybe that's only on Amiga when you want several screens to swap between in a jiiffy. :)
15.02.22 #       <ExiE> Video - Built-in ATI RAGE IIc accelerated 2D and 3D graphics chip
15.02.42 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I gave up screens...  takes several seconds to switch.  Now I have everything running on a 1152x900 Workbench (only 256 colors though :(
15.04.12 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Ah.. I can't live without screens.. first when I got the gfxcard I was very frustrated, of course 1024*768 is better than 656*414 but not enough to fit all on one screen..
15.04.36 #       <Merko> But then I found the nodrag tooltype which makes screenswapping fast like on AGA. :)
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15.04.53 #       <ExiE> i like multiple screen too
15.04.56 #       <Yoshi> Merko: Even if the gfx card memory is full?
15.05.10 #       <Rocambole> wb ExiE 
15.05.12 #       <ExiE> i hate macs hide all other aplications :)))
15.05.36 #       <Merko> Yoshi: No, of course not. Then it takes maybe half a second.. not nice!
15.05.41 #       <Yoshi> Merko: Actually, I don't regret using a single screen for surfing...  now I have everything under control. :)
15.06.11 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I'm still waiting for a PicassoV :))
15.06.40 #       <Merko> Yoshi: How many Hz do you get with the PIV in 1152*900?
15.07.04 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I only have a PII :(
15.07.17 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Ah.. not many then, I guess. ;D
15.07.32 #       <Yoshi> Merko: 68 Hz
15.07.43 #       <Yoshi> Actually, more than in 640x480 AGA :)
15.07.47 #       <Merko> Hmm.. not bad. I don't think the cv3d gives that many..
15.08.37 #       <Merko> Hmm, yes it does..
15.08.40 #       <Yoshi> Merko: CV3d = CV64?
15.08.55 #       <Merko> Yoshi: No.. cv64/3d.
15.09.19 #       <Yoshi> Merko: Still, a CV64 should be at least one generation "in front" of a PicassoII...
15.09.21 #       <Merko> Hmm, why am I not using it then.. gotta be because screenswitching is too slow then. 8)
15.09.54 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Yes, it does 1280x1024 in 67Hz.. probably possible to push that up a bit too. :)
15.10.18 #       <Merko> I even tried ADoomPPC in 1600x1200@50Hz. 8)
15.10.44 #       <Yoshi> Merko: I can only do 1280x1024 at 45 HZ (interlace), 1600x1200 at 36 Hz...
15.11.07 #       <Merko> My monitor doesn't support less than 50Hz..
15.11.30 #       <Merko> Anyway.. I managed to kill an imp with my fists in ADoom at that resolution, so I guess it was playable then?-)
15.11.39 #       <Yoshi> Merko: neither does mine.  I use 90Hz interlace and 72 HZ interlace.  Wrong wording above
15.11.56 #       <Yoshi> :)
15.12.31 #       <Merko> Yoshi: Ah.
15.12.58 #       <Merko> Anyway.. 50Hz looked awfully flickering at first.. can't imagine I used to run it like that until 10 months ago. ;D
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15.17.58 #       <Yoshi> hi Agima 
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15.18.19 #       <Rocambole> hello Agima 
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15.18.38 #       <Jamesc> Goodbye Agima
15.18.46 #       <Agima> Damned Escape key :)
15.19.34 #       <ExiE> ok must go bye
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15.19.55 #       <Jamesc> Goodbye ExiE and WB Agima! :)
15.20.18 #       <Agima> Jamesc :)
15.20.41 #       <Jamesc> And how are you today Agima? :)
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15.21.03 #       <Rocambole> hello phoe 
15.21.11 #       <phoe> hiya guyz...
15.21.15 #       <Agima> Jamesc : As well as can be expected :)
15.21.20 #       <Yoshi> hi phoe 
15.21.23 #       <Agima> Quite good, as it 'appens :)
15.21.28 #       <phoe> is it just me with server probs, or has the channel been empty a lot through the week ???
15.21.41 #       <Agima> phoe : I'd noticed as well
15.21.46 #       <Yoshi> phoe: I think you didn't have server problems. :)
15.22.05 #       <phoe> hmm.. ah well
15.22.15 #       <phoe> what's new ? anything ?
15.22.28 #       <Yoshi> phoe: nothing
15.22.46 #       <Worzel> cya all later
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15.22.53 #       <phoe> anyone seen or heard from Down ??? hows his project going ?
15.23.04 #       <Yoshi> phoe: who's Down
15.23.06 #       <Yoshi> ?
15.23.28 #       <phoe> Yoshi: he was working on a MIPS based amiga machine a while ago
15.23.42 #       <Yoshi> phoe: Never heard anything about it...
15.23.50 #       <phoe> Yoshi: but I think due to licensing probs with the OS, he was going to use a.n.other OS
15.23.59 #       <Yoshi> OK.
15.24.11 #       * Yoshi is signing off.  See you all later.
15.24.21 #       <phoe> Yoshi: he was going to use the same MIPS chip the N64 uses
15.24.42 #       <phoe> and it allows 4-processor multi-processing
15.25.01 #       <Agima> phoe : This is all new to me....
15.25.02 #       <phoe> and it was going to be DAMN CHEAP !!!
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15.25.33 #       <phoe> Agima: it could do more than 4 processor MP'ing, but it'd be more expensive
15.26.05 #       <phoe> Agima: 4 MP's can run as standard from what he was saying about the chipset...
15.26.42 #       <phoe> Agima: it was supposed to be < $500 for a FULL system when he last reviewed the pricing...
15.27.01 #       <Agima> phoe : Sounds very nice :)
15.27.06 #       <phoe> but.... he seems to have been very quiet lately :-(
15.27.26 #       <phoe> Agima: I last got a mail about 2 months ago now :-(
15.27.47 #       <phoe> he's had sponsor probs too over the course of the project :-(
15.28.06 #       <Agima> Shame.
15.28.07 #       <phoe> anyone else know any more ?
15.28.41 #       <phoe> the specs were originally going to contain PCI compatibility among a lot of other things...
15.29.15 #       <phoe> his original idea was for an amiga replacement, running 680x0 code under hardware emulation
15.29.23 #       * Rocambole is heading for bed now. Have a good night and the sweetest dreams all of you. Bye
15.29.45 #       <Rocambole> bye
15.29.45 #       <phoe> thus retaining full compatibility, as well as running native mips code as standard
15.29.48 #       <phoe> cya m8
15.29.56 #       * Rocambole signs *OFF*
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15.30.29 #       <phoe> it was going to be a 4-board implementation that was supposed to fit in ANY existing amiga case, including the A1200
15.30.42 #       <phoe> one of the boards was to handle the hardware emulation
15.31.01 #       <phoe> and he also had plans for native PC hardware emulation using the same method
15.32.31 #       <phoe> i'm probably out of date on a lot of my information now though ;-(
15.33.06 #       <phoe> apparently the AI licensing policy means AI would *OWN* all rights to anything you make now, or in the future !!!
15.33.21 #       <phoe> so you're screwed :-(
15.33.46 #       <phoe> that's why he dropped the idea of native amiga OS :-((((
15.34.22 #       <phoe> btw if this is getting pubished on aminet, it might be worth zapping some of that stuff ;-)
15.34.37 #       <Agima> Hmmm... yes. :)
15.40.31 #       <phoe> eveyone else asleep ?
15.44.10 #       <phoe> ok, i'm off
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16.17.15 #       <Jamesc> Hi Merko.. You still around?
16.20.04 #       <Merko> Jamesc: Actually I am. :)
16.20.17 NHeal   irc.snowhill.com dlld.beyondirc.net
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16.24.26 #       <Jamesc> So
16.24.31 #       <Jamesc> is everyone else now :)
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16.34.30 #       <Agima> brb
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18.01.08 #       <Revenant> hi all
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18.06.03 #       <Seed> Hi
18.06.13 #       <Revenant> hi Seed 
18.06.33 #       <Seed> Hi Revenant
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18.13.38 #       <Seed> Hi TA! :)
18.13.44 #       <TA> mornin'
18.13.48 #       <Revenant> hi TA 
18.14.11 #       <TA> Everyone ready for the Java conference on Monday?
18.14.26 #       <Revenant> where/when?
18.14.40 #       <TA> Here at 5pm EDT or GMT-4
18.15.12 #       <TA> With Stephan  Desrosiers and Fleecy Moss
18.15.27 #       <TA> Please pass the word ...
18.15.47 #       <Revenant> pitty, cant make that, but I'll let ppl know
18.16.19 #       <TA> We'll have logs on the ta web pages (above in topic) and probably on cucug.
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18.20.35 #       <Seed> Hi Agima!
18.20.43 #       <Agima> 'lo people :)
18.20.45 #       <Revenant> Agima
18.20.47 #       <TA> Agima, hey!
18.20.59 #       <Agima> Seed! Revenant! TA!
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18.22.14 #       <whispa> hiya everybod
18.22.22 #       <Revenant> hi whispa 
18.23.15 #       <Seed> Hi whispa
18.23.40 #       <Jamesc> Hey groovey... Thanks for the Note!
18.23.57 #       <Jamesc> TA, How come the Team Amiga mailing list dropped me?! Should I just reattach?
18.24.05 #       <TA> Jamesc: No problem!
18.24.50 #       <TA> Jamesc: Yes, sometimes I get a couple of days where a mailserver dumps the messages back to me. I unsubscribe peeps figuring it's a server problem or they have changed accounts.
18.25.57 #       <Jamesc> Okay.. Thanks for the explanation :) So it was probably because I had a problem with my CNet for a couple of days there...
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18.26.11 #       <Jamesc> New beta had a little bugette :)
18.26.15 #       <DrJekyl> re
18.26.20 #       <Jamesc> re
18.26.22 #       <Revenant> hi DrJekyl 
18.26.27 #       <Seed> Hi DrJekyl
18.26.29 #       <whispa> hi DrJekyl 
18.26.30 #       <Jamesc> What the heck does re mean anyway?
18.26.36 #       <DrJekyl> Revenant Seed 
18.26.50 #       <Agima> 'lo Jekyl
18.26.59 #       <Jamesc> Revenant?? OKay... What's Revenant mean? :)
18.27.00 #       <DrJekyl> Agima :)
18.27.00 #       <Agima> Jamesc : Regards, maybe? :)
18.27.24 #       <Jamesc> Could be... Regards.. Hi there. Nice to see you. 
18.27.28 #       <Jamesc> re
18.27.32 #       <whispa> Run Everybody
18.27.35 #       <Jamesc> fairy Nuf<tm> :)
18.27.39 #       <Agima> So, erm, 'gards
18.27.54 #       <Seed> Agima: re means Really Euuuch :)
18.28.08 #       <Revenant> Jamesc:  Revenant means someone/thing that returns
18.28.28 #       <Jamesc> ooooooh
18.28.43 #       <Jamesc> Well I'll just take it at that then :)
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18.29.37 #       <Seed> Hi Kinners
18.29.52 #       * Agima is going to be awkward with his use of Re from now on...
18.29.54 #       <Agima> 'gards Kinners
18.29.57 #       <DrJekyl> Kinners 
18.30.08 #       <Kinners> hello everyone
18.30.14 #       <whispa> hiya Kinners 
18.30.17 #       <Revenant> hi Kinners 
18.30.17 #       <TA> re Kinners
18.30.34 #       <Jamesc> Kinners here when there's people??? Strange .. . :)
18.30.53 #       <Kinners> Jamesc: :)
18.32.48 #       <Kinners> TA: Do you want those URL's directly?
18.33.18 #       <TA> yes, send to me at gpeake@wt.net
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18.40.30 #       <TA> who is going to make the conf on Monday?
18.40.51 #       <Agima> TA : I'll try. I've read that there won't be a log. So if I don't show up I'm buggered. :)
18.40.59 #       <whispa> TA:  what conf is this and when
18.41.13 #       <TA> There will be a log on ta pages and possibly cucug.
18.41.50 #       <TA> whispa: Java Conf with Stephan Desrosiers and Fleecy Moss Monday at 5pm EDT (GMT-4)
18.42.32 #       <Kinners> If I can figure out what time that is, I'll be there :)
18.42.43 #       <Agima> Hmmm.... 10pm GMT by the almighty Darx
18.42.46 #       <whispa> thanks 9 gmt
18.44.10 #       <TA> Agima: 10pm GMT?
18.44.18 #       <DrJekyl> p pm BST ;)
18.44.23 #       <DrJekyl> p=9
18.44.25 #       <Agima> I think so. Darx just spat it back at me. :)
18.44.35 #       <Agima> So, yes, 9pm BST.
18.44.39 #       * Agima glares at DrJekyl
18.44.51 #       <DrJekyl> lol
18.45.51 #       <TA> what is BST? Boston Standard Time?  :)
18.46.04 #       <Revenant> British Summer Time
18.46.07 #       <Agima> British Summer Time (apparently :)
18.46.21 #       <TA> no wonder no one knows how to tell time.
18.46.30 #       <TA> we should have ONE world time period.
18.46.38 #       <Revenant> yeah GMT
18.46.56 #       <TA> let it be the same exact time all over the world and just adjust sleep patterns or something.  :)
18.47.20 #       <Seed> TA: we all adjust sleeping patterns as it is :)
18.47.40 #       <whispa> could try by phases of the moon
18.47.45 #       <Revenant> do you have a sleeping pattern?
18.48.09 #       <TA> Revenant: Yes, when I am tired, I sleep.
18.48.37 #       <Revenant> TA: what a luxury
18.48.56 #       <Seed> TA: It's easy for you.. for some, it doesn't work so smoothly :)
18.49.04 #       <TA> well, actually my job and TA and the ICOA frequently interfere with my sleep patterns, but ...
18.51.16 #       <Seed> those who are really lucky have sex interfere with their sleeping patterns :)
18.51.40 #       <TA> I fixed the note now. Thanks guys.
18.51.52 #       <Agima> Seed : Oh VERY funny :D
18.52.09 #       <TA> Seed: That happens 'occassionally' too.  :)
18.52.20 #       <Seed> Agima: are you deprived? :)
18.52.32 #       <TA> Seed: Probabl;y just married ...
18.52.36 #       <Agima> Seed : Deprived? Deprived? Oh HELL NO!
18.52.42 #       <Seed> LOL
18.52.50 #       <TA> same difference.
18.52.50 #       <Agima> Married? Me? I must have logged on under a false name.....
18.52.59 #       <Seed> anyone using web trackers of any kind?
18.53.13 #       <TA> Seed: Too expensive.
18.53.23 #       <Seed> Expensive?
18.53.48 #       <TA> If you are talking about those things that track users, etc, yes they cost about $10 monthly.
18.53.56 #       <Seed> I meant those who come for free.. I have 2 but they don't give much info. I tried a third now, but the logo disappears :)
18.54.17 #       <Agima> Seed : Are you using WebTracker from FXWeb?
18.54.21 #       <Seed> TA: try HTTP://www.counterguide.com/  you'll be surprised to know how many of those are free :)
18.54.36 #       <Seed> Agima: FXWeb?
18.54.47 #       <Agima> Seed : www.fxweb.holowww.com/tracker/
18.54.57 #       <Agima> IF they still give out new counters.....
18.54.59 #       <Seed> let me check it
18.55.28 #       <Seed> Ohh. this is the one I registered 5 mins ago :)
18.55.35 #       <TA> My isp furnishes a counter. I have found too that some of those trackers actually suck down email addresses for spammers who pay them for lists.
18.55.44 #       <Agima> Doh! :)
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18.56.00 #       <Seed> I configured it properly but it doesn't give me any stats
18.56.06 #       <Seed> Hi TruKr
18.56.12 #       <TA> hey TruKr 
18.56.18 #       <Seed> Agima: any help would be appreciated
18.56.20 #       <Revenant> hi TruKr 
18.56.24 #       <TruKr> Hi
18.56.46 #       <Agima> But, but, but..... I can only think of WebTracker :\
18.56.54 #       <whispa> hi TruKr 
18.56.56 #       <TruKr> TA: central time is GNT -6, right?
18.57.06 #       <TruKr> GNT = GMT
18.57.07 #       <Seed> Agima: NedStat is very good.. but the stats are limited
18.57.12 #       <TA> TruKr: -5 actually.
18.57.29 #       <TruKr> ?
18.58.04 #       <TruKr> I still can/t make it :(
18.58.06 #       <TA> TruKr: It is happening at 5pm EDT which is 6pm our time.
18.58.16 #       <Seed> Agima: OK..  made it work :)
18.58.33 #       <TruKr> I don't close till 6PM
18.58.40 #       <Agima> :)
18.58.49 #       <TA> TruKr: Yeah, me too. I am calling in sick ... again.
18.58.50 #       <DrJekyl> someone looking for a counter ?
18.58.54 #       <Seed> Agima: Hey! it tracks Amiga OS users :)
18.59.04 #       <TA> Seed: which one?
18.59.19 #       <Agima> Seed : Yep. I had one on my site, and IBrowse was the top access :)
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18.59.31 #       <Seed> Agima: WorldStat can even tell the resolution and # of colors a client uses :)
18.59.36 #       <DrJekyl> BillM 
18.59.44 #       <BillM> Doc
18.59.49 #       <Revenant> hi BillM 
18.59.50 #       <Seed> Hi BillM
18.59.56 #       <Agima> 'lo Bill"Not McEwen"M :)
19.00.00 #       <BillM> Revenent. Seed
19.00.04 #       <TA> BillM: Won't BillM be surprised ... :)
19.00.17 #       <Agima> Seed : Re-ea-al-ly? What brand of kitchen sink does visitor #56 use then? :P
19.00.29 #       <BillM> Hey, I was born with this name, too. :)
19.00.43 #       <TA> Seed: Which one are you talking about?
19.00.47 #       <Seed> Agima: I have no clue.. I don't use WorldStat.. It's in Dutch, AFAIR
19.01.46 #       <Agima> Seed : Well why didn't you say so? :)
19.03.15 #       <Seed> Agima: why did I have to say so? :)
19.03.22 #       <BillM> Folks, I've just finished another Graphic. I call this one Seizure.
19.03.31 #       <Seed> TA: didn't understand you
19.04.06 #       <TA> Seed: which tracker are you using that gives amiga info?
19.04.19 #       <Seed> Ta: WebTracker
19.04.58 #       <DrJekyl> TA: the one on AWA rocks for stats :)
19.05.06 #       <Seed> TA: and it looks good.. and it's free.. But, I have AWeb spoof as Mozilla and WebTracker thought it was Netscape.. so what good is it??
19.06.17 #       <Kinners> TA: I just had a look at the message I sent you, and I just realised I waffled on but didn't give you a URL :)
19.06.19 #       <BillM> Folks, I've just finished another Graphic. I call this one Seizure. If anyone's interested, let me know and I'll send it.
19.06.24 #       <TA> DrJekyl: Do you have a url for that tracker?
19.06.34 #       <TA> BillM: Send away
19.07.05 #       <DrJekyl> http://www.sea-mammals.org/drjekyl click on the counter and it should take you to the stats and links page for the counter
19.07.22 #       <TA> BillM: If I have space, can I post it to my amiga artists page?
19.07.39 #       <BillM> TA: Of course.
19.07.42 #       <DrJekyl> AWA has a passwd set so you can't access it's stats
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19.08.23 #       <BillM> TA: If you want, you can get my other stuff out of pix/art and put that up as well. Just search for "maddock"
19.08.57 #       <Seed> A weird pic :)
19.09.08 #       <TA> billm: Will do. You wouldn't want to renew our TA logo would you?
19.09.12 #       <BillM> Seed: Thus the name. :)
19.09.17 #       <TA> It needs to be more modern.
19.09.28 #       <Seed> BillM: Is it a portrait of someone I know? :)
19.09.48 #       <BillM> TA: I could take a look at it with a friend of mine, if that's OK.
19.10.09 #       <BillM> Seed: Only my own demons. >:)
19.10.33 #       <TA> BillM: Sure, any help is appreciated.
19.11.01 #       <BillM> OK, How about you send the current one to me, and we'll see what we can do.
19.13.56 #       <BillM> TA: You know, that's actually a pretty good logo now. I'll show it to my buddy, though, and we'll take a crack at it. :)
19.14.01 #       <TA> I have finally sent off for PPaint 7.x should get that next week. Then I can do a little myself with gfx.
19.14.31 #       <BillM> TA: You don't need commercial software to do Amiga Graphics. ;)
19.14.33 #       <TA> BillM: It is a good one, but I want to change the background on my pages and can't with the white background on the logo.
19.14.40 #       <Seed> TA: 7.1?
19.14.46 #       <TA> Seed: Yes.
19.14.56 #       <Seed> TA: what version is free on Aminet?
19.15.09 #       <TA> Software Hut loves me, my wife hates me.
19.15.27 #       <Seed> Software Hut love me more :) I buy hardware there :)
19.15.29 #       <TA> Seed: 6.4 but it has some limitations. I also have 6.4 real from AmiWest.
19.16.08 #       <TA> every two weeks they get another $50 bucks or so.
19.16.17 #       <BillM> So Download and register ImageStudio and ImageEngineer from AmiNET. That's what I used for Seizure. Of course, I use a custom filter in one of them. :)
19.16.28 #       <TA> pretty soon I will own a warehouse full of stuff I can't use or have no time for.
19.16.52 #       <Seed> TA: I don't have a warehouse for my unused stuff :)
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19.16.59 #       <Seed> re TruKr
19.17.07 #       <TA> BillM: My problem is the cybergfx 84/3D card. Lots of stuff just won't promote right.
19.17.09 #       <BillM> wb Trukr
19.17.10 #       <TruKr> I HATE when that happens
19.17.29 #       <TA> make that 64/3D
19.17.52 #       <Seed> I want an 128/3D :) Can you make me one?
19.17.56 #       <BillM> TA: Both of these work just fine on CyberGraphX and P96.
19.17.57 #       <TruKr> But uh LUV mah Picasso IV :)
19.17.59 #       <TA> 3/4 of the stuff I have will not promote.
19.18.30 #       <TruKr> TA: what are you using to promote scrrens?
19.19.10 #       <TA> TruKr: NewMode
19.19.10 #       <TruKr> <wimper> srrens = screens
19.19.46 #       <TruKr> Hmmm, I also use NewMode, and near ALL mt stuff will promote, if it don't, it's toast
19.20.18 #       <TA> I wish I could figure out that other one ... what's it called?
19.20.23 #       <BillM> I regularly use ImageStudio and ImageEngineer on 1024x768x16bit
19.20.43 #       <TruKr> Vista Pro will not, but they use a low res behind a high res, so, that don't eve launch from a Picasso IV WB
19.21.07 #       <Kinners> TA: ModePro?
19.21.23 #       <TruKr> I run Imagine 4 in 800X600
19.21.26 #       <Agima> See ya guys later!
19.21.28 #       <TA> Kinners: Yeah, ModePro. I keep setting it up and don't see it happening here.
19.21.29 Quit    Agima (:Amiga Universe magazine - «http://www.amigauni.u-net.com» - The place to be!)
19.22.35 #       <Kinners> TA: Works fine for me
19.23.09 #       <TA> Kinners: I suspect my partial college education is keeping me from properly setting it up.
19.23.12 #       <TA> :)
19.23.29 #       <TruKr> Heh, some one is on my BBS, telnetting to another BBS, oh well
19.23.43 #       <BillM> Well, right now, while I type this on my 1200, I'm also working on another graphic on the 3000 in ImageStudio and am about to move it over to ImageEngineer. This one still needs a name, BTW. :)
19.24.42 #       <Seed> BillM: buy ImageFX and save yourself hard work :)
19.24.58 #       <TA> TruKr: I try to run everything in 800x600, but alas ...
19.25.24 #       <BillM> Seed: I have ImageFX. I find these easier to use, believe it or not. :)
19.25.28 #       <Seed> TA: I run 99.5% of my software at 800x600 on a CV64
19.25.38 #       <Seed> BillM: I believe
19.25.41 #       <TA> Oh, good news to all, I just registered MUI to see how long it takes to actually get a key from them as I get complaints almost daily. Got mine in 48 hours?
19.26.18 #       <TA> BillM: I have ImageFX 1.51 (cover disk).
19.26.29 #       <BillM> TA: 2.6 here.
19.26.33 #       <Seed> TA: from CU Amiga?
19.26.38 #       <TA> Looks like SASG has cleaned up thier act a little now.
19.26.46 #       <Seed> I hear v3.2 is tremendous
19.26.51 #       <TruKr> I have Image FX 2.1 ADPro 2.5
19.26.54 #       <TA> Seed: Yes, amiga format or CU amiga
19.26.58 #       <TruKr> ooops, 2.6
19.27.38 #       <Seed> TA: I've been reading AF for 7 years.. it's not them. must be CUA :)
19.29.40 #       <BillM> Anyone seen the final CU yet?
19.30.00 #       <TA> BillM: No but Software Hut has one coming to me as soon as they get it.
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19.30.01 #       <Revenant> not I
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19.31.24 #       <TA> I think Neil said it will have an uncrippled Cinema4D on it.
19.31.32 #       <BillM> I promise I'll register as soon as I have the cash. :-/
19.33.00 #       <TA> BillM: Using a demo is no problem.
19.33.09 #       <TA> That is why they make them.
19.33.34 #       <BillM> Yeah, but I've been on demo mode for almost a year now. :-/
19.33.43 #       <TruKr> :P
19.33.46 #       <TruKr> heheh
19.34.05 #       <TruKr> Demo of what?
19.34.11 #       <BillM> AmIRC
19.34.14 #       <TA> AmIRC
19.34.57 #       <TruKr> Oh, Reg, it's worth it :), I did, and got slamd on ther IRC chanel for it
19.35.28 #       <TA> It's the peeps with Pirate Keys that piss me off since I pay for mine, they should pay fopr thiers or use the demo's like they are supposed to.
19.35.51 #       <TA> TruKr: How did you get slammed?
19.35.54 #       <BillM> TruKr: Slamd?
19.37.25 #       <TruKr>   Well, I payed a guy for his shareware stuuf since he was leaving Amiga, the key was <see above> but I did not know, they said somthing about it, I regd, I retured, and DFDuck slamed me because my new key was from a brit site (the ONLY place to use a creadit car)
19.38.01 #       <TruKr> kickd/band
19.38.02 #       <BillM> Well, that's a bit rediculous.
19.38.04 #       <TA> TruKr: What diff does it make where you get a key from if it is legit?
19.38.28 #       <TruKr> I don't know, but DFDuck is an %^$$%#@
19.38.45 #       <TA> I order from all over the world using credit cards. Shame on he who bans me for ordering from somewhere they don't like.
19.39.23 #       <TruKr> He said two days was too soon, I must have made another pirate key, what an ass
19.39.27 #       <BillM> TA: I got rid of all my credit cards last spring.
19.39.37 #       <Seed> The guys on that channel are pretty rude. Don't take it personally
19.39.43 #       <TruKr> WEll, I was realy using debit card :)
19.39.57 #       <TA> BillM: Me too, but this is really a Visa Debit Card. That way I know it is gone the second I click submit.
19.40.22 #       <BillM> TA: How do those debit cards work?
19.40.29 #       <BillM> Fee wise, I mean.
19.40.36 #       <TA> And I actually buy from as many places as possible just to keep them in business.
19.40.43 #       <TruKr> Same as credit card only from you checking account
19.41.03 #       <TA> BillM: No fee, it is an instant debit to my checking acct. Like writing a check or doing an ATM 
19.41.12 #       <BillM> but how do they make their money off of you?
19.41.32 #       <TA> BillM: They don't. It is a way of getting my checking acct with thier bank.
19.41.33 #       <TruKr> I pay NO fee
19.41.43 #       <TA> It's like an ATM card.
19.42.04 #       <TA> But, Visa or Mastercard also accept it for instant withdrawels from your acct.
19.42.26 #       <TA> I think merchant's pay some fee (like 2%) when we use them.
19.42.39 #       <TA> But they also pay with a real Visa too, so no loss to them.
19.43.11 #       <BillM> Hmmm. I may have to look into that some day.
19.43.36 #       <TA> BillM: It's great as long as you remember that it come sout of your acct right away.
19.43.39 #       <TruKr> It's a good way to order things, and NOT be paying for life :)
19.44.14 #       <TA> And most banks will issue a debit card to anyone who has an acct without regard to credit status.
19.44.26 #       <BillM> I take it you should write the transaction into your check book right away, then?
19.44.34 #       <TruKr> YES!
19.44.47 #       <TA> BillM: Yes, cause that money is gone seconds after clicking submit in most cases.
19.45.26 #       <BillM> OK, well, I've just finished that other graphic, and it's called FireStorm. Anyone?
19.45.44 #       <TruKr> Can I see?
19.45.53 #       <TruKr> huh?huh?
19.45.53 #       <BillM> sure
19.46.04 #       <Revenant> BillM: yeah OK, and could you offer the other one too pls?
19.47.12 #       <TA> BillM: Go for it here too.
19.48.07 #       <BillM> OK, Guys, They's on they way. :)
19.48.20 #       <Revenant> tnx
19.48.53 #       <TruKr> How manny colors?
19.49.00 #       <BillM> Hey, No problem.
19.49.03 #       <BillM> 24 bit
19.49.20 #       <BillM> Oh, Seeeedddddd!
19.50.23 #       <TruKr> What did U use to do this?
19.50.26 >>>     "help" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
19.50.27 #       <Seed> BillM: Sorry.. busy :)
19.50.35 #       <TA> Thanks Bill
19.50.39 >>>     "cmd" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
19.50.40 #       <BillM> That's OK. :)
19.50.47 #       <BillM> Nope
19.51.25 #       <TruKr> BillM: what did you create this with?
19.51.25 #       <BillM> I usually start in FRAC Blank
19.51.49 >>>     "sview DrJekyl" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.51.59 #       <BillM> Then process in ImageStudio and ImageEngineer. Secret Filter in one of those two.
19.52.20 >>>     "#team*amiga chmod DrJekyl 100" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.53.17 #       <TruKr> OneAmine
19.53.24 >>>     "sview Stg^sntx" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
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19.53.46 #       <BillM> One BIG Anime. :)
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19.54.47 #       <Seed> TA: Do you know/use the program Candy Factory?
19.55.12 #       <TA> Seed: No, i downloaded it, unarced it, and it shot craps here so I deleted it.
19.55.24 #       <Seed> shot craps? :)
19.56.39 #       <Seed> TA: I don't understand why it would fail.. works well for many
19.56.45 >>>     "sview TA" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.56.52 #       <TruKr> What IS it?
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19.57.06 #       <DrJekyl> hi sdesros 
19.57.13 #       <sdesros> Hi DrJ
19.57.20 #       <BillM> sdesros
19.57.37 #       <Seed> TruKr: do you know Candy Factory?
19.57.39 >>>     "help" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.57.41 #       <Kinners> hello sdesros, you're a bit early aren't you? :)
19.57.44 #       <TruKr> No idea
19.57.54 >>>     "cmd" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.58.03 #       <TruKr> Seed: No idea
19.58.08 #       <sdesros> Kinners...  I am...  I must have my timezones mixed up. :P
19.58.24 #       <BillM> sdesros: early for what?
19.58.39 #       <Seed> Candy Factory ->  http://members.xoom.com/seed/CF/   A must for any AGA/GFX card owner
19.58.54 #       <sdesros> BillM: For the next IRC conference. :)
19.59.11 #       <BillM> Have I wondered into something here? :)
19.59.32 >>>     "set DrJekyl 100" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
19.59.43 #       <sdesros> BillM: Not really...  The next IRC Conference is on Monday.  Therefore I'm early...
19.59.46 #       <BillM> seed: got the archive. will look at it later.
19.59.55 >>>     'pass' used by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net) [snoop prevented]
20.00.02 >>>     "set DrJekyl 100" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.00.03 #       <BillM> ah HAH! :)
20.00.08 #       <DrJekyl> sdesros: it's Monday tomorrow here ;)
20.00.29 >>>     "help set" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.00.34 #       <BillM> well, folks. must dash!
20.00.38 Quit    BillM (:Din Din. :))
20.00.47 >>>     "help set label" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.00.58 >>>     "help set <label>" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.01.14 >>>     "help set level" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.01.20 #       <sdesros> One thing I don't like about IRC is that I usually can't associate the nicks with the names.
20.01.20 >>>     "help set mode" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.01.42 >>>     "help set chmod" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.02.00 >>>     "help set mode" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.02.03 #       <Seed> sdesros: With me it's no prob..  that's my real name :)
20.02.09 >>>     "help set user" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.02.34 #       <Kinners> sdesros: You can use the /whois command '/whois Kinners' to get more info about someone.
20.02.43 >>>     "set usermod DrJekyl 100" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.02.52 #       <sdesros> (I'm an IRC nitwit.) :P
20.03.07 >>>     "usermod DrJekyl 100" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.03.21 >>>     "sview" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
20.03.23 #       <sdesros> Well, that really didn't clear anything up. :)
20.03.35 >>>     "cmd" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
20.04.10 #       <Seed> sdesros: It should.. if users give their real details there :)
20.04.34 >>>     "help set" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
20.05.01 #       <sdesros> (the /whois command)
20.05.01 #       <sdesros> Seed: I stopped using imaginative nicks long ago.  I was too frustrated to find that they were already in use. :)
20.05.27 >>>     "sview stg^sntx" by DrJekyl (DrJekyl@p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net)
20.05.44 #       <TA> sdesros: Good to see you here!
20.06.34 #       <TA> sdesros: I have the same problem with nicks. Most of them make absolutely no sense to me at all.
20.06.47 #       <TruKr> <snif snif> BillM never said if he hated MY pic <pout>
20.07.12 #       <Kinners> TA: My nick is just the first three letters of my last name with a bit added on :)
20.07.19 #       <Seed> TA: I didn't understand your problem with Candy.. Can you explain?
20.08.16 #       <Seed> Kinners: So mister Bill would be Clinners here :)
20.08.45 #       <TA> Seed: I tried to play with it and it kept having problems on every screen I tried it on? I have a wierd A3000 though.
20.09.29 #       <Seed> TA: Just promote it with NewMode.. Works for me
20.09.38 #       <TA> Kinners: I have thought of changing mine to my name. Much simpler to remember.
20.09.58 #       <TA> Seed: I blew it out when I got PPaint anyways.
20.10.20 #       <TA> Now if I get time to read up on PPaint and learn how to use it, it will be great.
20.10.39 #       <Seed> TA: what do they have in common? :) Use both
20.11.14 #       <TA> I am really not heavily into gfx yet. I am color blind.
20.11.26 #       <Seed> TA: I'm sure the latest version would work fine for you. I create te imagemaps for it with PPaint
20.11.43 #       <Seed> TA: to what degree?
20.12.04 #       <TA> I only see baby blue and then shades from white to black (greyscaled).
20.12.16 #       <Seed> I see
20.12.36 #       <sdesros> TA: If you're used to DPAINT, PPAINT is a snap... 
20.12.51 Quit    Revenant (:Ping timeout for Revenant[dialup-11-51.netcomuk.co.uk])
20.12.55 #       <Seed> Yes. PPaint is very much like it
20.13.01 #       <Seed> only FASTER :)
20.13.08 #       <TA> Seed: Typical CoonAss (Cajun- Louisiana French) color blind.
20.13.25 #       <Kinners> At least Windows is consistent when it crashes :)  Every time I use it, something crashes :(
20.13.28 #       <sdesros> Seed: In RTG modes maybe... :)
20.13.30 #       <Seed> Ya Cajun?
20.13.32 #       <Seed> :)
20.13.37 #       <TA> sdesros: I could never get DPaint to open a screen on my Cybergfx 64/3D.  :(
20.13.42 #       <TA> I have that too.
20.14.20 #       <Seed> sdesros: in AGA modes nothing comes close to Brilliance.. but I think PPaint is still faster than DPaint in 8-bit mode
20.14.21 #       <TA> Seed: Very much so, one side of the family is heavily La. French, the other is German Irish.
20.14.28 #       <TruKr> I can get DPaint to OPEN on a Picasso IV, but EA bangd the hardware on some things and it would crash
20.14.38 #       <Seed> Ta: do you speak French?
20.14.56 #       <sdesros> TA: Dpaint V?
20.15.04 #       <TA> Seed: I used to fluently. Have forgotten most of it over my 46 years. Though I know some when I hear it.
20.15.06 #       <Seed> TA: how is your gnawing animal doing, BTW? :)
20.15.38 #       <TA> sdesros: Yeah, I won that on AmigaZone and it sucked for me since I have no AGA.
20.16.07 #       <TA> Seed: The wolf puppy is getting bigger and bigger. Almost the sioze of a German Shepherd now.
20.16.26 #       <TruKr> TV Paint is nice on GFX cards
20.16.30 #       <sdesros> TA: There was a bug on my DPaintV.  I have to first open the software on the default screen mode...  Then I can change the screen mode to anything else.
20.16.39 #       <Seed> TVPaint is the king, period
20.17.01 #       <TA> sdesros: But, if I don't have aga, it just locks up that opening screen.
20.17.22 #       <Seed> TA: I think your A3000 is not a real Amiga :)
20.17.39 #       <TA> I even offered to trade version V for another version and got no takers.
20.17.41 #       <Seed> I'm almost certain DP5 worked on my A500
20.17.42 #       <TruKr> I have 3.6 here, but can not use it as the jerks did not put the serial number on the disk, and, and, and this stuped jerk LOST it :(
20.18.17 #       <sdesros> TA: mine defaults to CyberGraphics...  320x240x8 strange.
20.18.26 #       <sdesros> Seed: I never tried TVPaint...  What is it like?
20.18.27 #       <TruKr> DP5 WILL work, but, ECS??? akc!
20.18.50 #       <TA> TruKr: I am saving my cash for that developer box and an Inside-out card.
20.19.18 #       <TA> sdesros: Went looking for some Java books. $40 per book for a 4 book set from Sun!!
20.19.23 #       <TruKr> I would like ta have the InsideOut card :)
20.20.03 #       <Seed> sdesros: It's like a dream. the first Amiga program to do layers properly, and many tools that you can only get on expensive programs like Fractal Designer on the PC/Mac
20.20.17 #       <TA> Be prepared to get asked about some good Java books for those of us just getting into it.  :)
20.20.22 #       <sdesros> TA: You can find some okay books at those "Discount Computer Book Stores"...  You might not have the "latest" information but it's a good place for a general start.  Your best bet is to get the API, joing the Java Developer's Connections (it's free).
20.20.58 #       <sdesros> Seed: What's the going price for it now a days?  
20.21.00 #       <Seed> Fractal Painter.. oops :)
20.21.09 #       <TA> The wife almost fell over and said 'wait a week or two yet'.  :(
20.21.29 #       <Seed> sdesros: no going price. I doubt they still sell it. It's only for GFX cards, though
20.21.47 #       <TA> Seed: Wher can we get TV paint?
20.22.24 #       <sdesros> TA: I'll try and get some ISBN# from some of the books I've got at work.  (But books become out-of-date quite quickly with JAVA's rapid evolution)
20.22.28 #       <Seed> TA: I don't remember. I don't own it..  just toyed with it for a long time
20.22.36 #       <sdesros> Seed: WCi did have a copy of it.
20.22.44 #       <TA> Seed: Didn't that come on a CU or AF coverdisk at one time?
20.22.50 #       <Seed> sdesros: right. they had it
20.23.04 #       <TA> who is WCI?
20.23.11 #       <Seed> TA: A $300-$400 program? I doubt it
20.23.40 #       <sdesros> TA: WCi is "Wonder Computers International".  Their main retail location is about half an hour's bus ride from my house. :)
20.23.48 #       <Seed> It works like a dream on a Z3 card.. 32-bit mode at 1024x768 is so fast
20.23.58 #       <TruKr> I REALY don't think the full program would be on a cover disk
20.24.10 #       <Seed> sdesros: really? so can you check if they still sell it?
20.24.18 #       <TA> TruKr: I think I have a demo of it somewhere. I will search later.
20.24.30 #       <TA> Too many disks and cd's to do that now.
20.24.37 #       <Seed> they are working on the PC version.. they don't develop the Amiga version anymore
20.24.38 #       <sdesros> Seed: Yup.  Although I only remembered a single box.
20.24.53 #       <TruKr> I started woth TV-Paint Jr, came with my first GFX card, a Picasso II
20.25.07 #       <Seed> the Jr version was pretty cool as well
20.25.30 #       <TA> I may have to go visit Wonder on the net and see if they have it.
20.26.38 #       <sdesros> TA: Their catalogue is quite old...  Their webmaster has been waiting for an update for a few months now. :)
20.27.06 >>>     "usermod StG^sNTx 20" by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.27.33 #       <sdesros> I wonder how PPaint8 will be like and Paul Nolan's new paint package (I forgot the name... argh.)
20.27.47 #       <Seed> PhotogenicsNG
20.28.00 #       <TA> sdesros: I saw Paul's work at AmiWest. It was beautifully done.
20.28.01 #       <sdesros> Seed: That's it...  I remembered it just after I typed it. :)
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20.28.51 #       <Seed> www.wonder.ca
20.28.54 #       <Trucker> Hi self :)
20.28.54 #       <TA> Paul did a demo for us a xcouple of times. Very intuitive. Remembers things like basic color set a user likes, etc and opens in that mode for you without having to save it.
20.29.28 #       <TruKr> hahahah
20.29.55 #       <TA> Trucker: Has finally lost it ... :)
20.30.26 #       <Seed> what a badly designed page
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20.30.37 #       <Seed> hi Ashke
20.30.39 #       <TruKr> Ashke!
20.30.42 Mode    "#Team*AMiGA -o TA " by TA (gpeake@wt-d6-119.wt.net)
20.30.54 #       <TA> hey Ashke 
20.31.01 #       <Ashke> hi therehihi there
20.31.07 #       <Ashke> sheesh...:)
20.31.14 #       <sdesros> TA: I just started to fool around with ImageFX3 right now...  I don't consider it a paint package, it's more an Image Processing package to me.  What would Photogenics NG be classified as?
20.31.15 #       <TruKr> TA: I have IRC on my BBS, Ashke is on my BBS, and so am I, and AmIRC
20.31.34 #       <TA> sdesros: 24 bit Paint package plus more.
20.32.01 #       <TruKr> Ashke: did ya get yer HD fixed up?
20.32.36 #       <Ashke> This is wierd...I'm typing over a blue ansi line that makes it kindof hard to see what I'm typing. :)
20.32.39 #       <sdesros> TA: Sounds great...  Will he be at Columbus? ;)
20.32.39 #       <Seed> I wouldn't paint with anything other than TVPaint.. its anti-aliasing and font support are so much better than what ImageFX or PG give you
20.32.55 #       <TA> sdesros: He had it doing all kinds of beautiful things, then when he wanted to change his mind and erase something, just hit the right mouse button and went over whatever with the mouse and it went away.
20.33.06 #       <TruKr> Hmmm, maybe new colors needed?
20.33.27 #       <Ashke> colors look fine...just maybe set up for too many lines?
20.33.44 #       <Trucker> I am typing UNDER blue ansi bar, black background, green text
20.33.44 #       <sdesros> Ashke: Change your brightness and contrast on your monitor. :P
20.33.47 #       <Seed> TA: that was the best thing with the early versions of Photogenics..  the undo only works after you hit the "fix" button
20.34.10 #       <Trucker> Ashke, do an ET and set lines
20.35.01 #       <TA> Of course, Paul made it all look so easy, I was drooling for it. It should be out in a month or two now.
20.35.21 #       <TA> I asked why he couldn't release it then and he said it wasn't perfect yet ... :)
20.35.46 #       <Seed> He's busy drooling over it himself
20.35.47 #       <TA> His wife verified that he is somewhat of a perfectionist about his work.
20.36.04 #       <Seed> Isn't he too young to be married? :)
20.36.18 #       <sdesros> TA: The funny thing is that I get all of these image processing software, and I'm not the artist... :)
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20.36.46 #       <TA> Seed: He is about 19 I think, beautiful wife, very understanding person. She was like a fifth wheel with people all over Paul and she just grinned and beared with it.
20.37.24 #       * Seed ponders... why make this mistake when you are so young :)
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20.37.27 #       <TA> Seed: Published and sold well his first work at like 11 or 12.
20.37.50 #       <Trucker> Ashke: now?
20.39.11 #       <TA> It was funny, she told me that Paul will lock himself up in the computer room and code without stop for days, just snacking every so often.
20.39.50 #       <TA> She said he was driven like he just had to get whatever is in his head into the computer at times.
20.39.53 #       <Seed> well, that's what I'm saying.. I would never do that to my wife :)
20.39.58 #       <Trucker> Sounds like Ray
20.40.12 #       <Seed> well, artists and programmers are like that :)
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20.40.32 #       <Trucker> OK But this is gooder :)
20.40.36 #       <TA> Seed: If you saw her, you wouldn't do that to her either. It would be hard to get my mind back onto programming with her around.  :)
20.40.38 #       <Trucker> l8r Ashke
20.41.24 #       <Seed> TA: That's why I don't program. I want to be able to spot those gorgeous creatures when they walk near me :)
20.41.25 #       <TA> They make an excellent couple. Paul is very shy and introverted. She was very outgoing and easy to talk to.
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20.41.53 #       <TruKr> So, Trucker, how do YOU like CNet IRC 3.5?
20.42.04 #       <TA> And she beemed from ear to ear every time Paul got a compliment. 
20.42.05 #       <Seed> shy is good.. as long as it doesn't hurt his money-making
20.42.19 #       <TruKr> HEY, dose it anounce ME like that? huh, <pout>
20.42.23 #       <TA> Seed: She will see that it doesn't ... :)
20.42.23 #       <Seed> TA: is she British? Older than he is?
20.42.48 #       <TA> Seed: I think they are the same age. She sounded British or Irish but I didn't ask.
20.42.54 #       <Seed> TA: He had a big dispute over thhe old version.. I'm sure you are aware of this
20.43.03 #       <TA> Seed: Yes.
20.43.26 #       * Trucker thinks that CNet Amiga BBS ANYTHING rules :)
20.44.32 #       <sdesros> Anyway, I've got to run...  I'll see you all on Monday... :)
20.44.35 #       <TA> Paul talked a little about that. This one won't goout until HE thinks it is perfect.
20.44.43 #       <TA> see ya Stephan!
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20.45.29 #       <Seed> TA: I don't think I'll ever meet him.. tell him Photogenics Lite is cool.. if you see him again :)
20.45.42 #       <Ashke> *Trucker's right! :)
20.45.49 #       <TA> Seed: Part of that dispute surrounded the fact that Paul didn't have complete control over it either.
20.45.59 #       <Seed> TA: I know that
20.46.06 #       <TA> PhotoNG he does have complete control over.
20.46.28 #       <Seed> I don't think I'll be able to buy it
20.46.29 #       <TA> I doubt he will ever do it any other way again.
20.47.14 #       <Seed> Perfectionists do things their way. It's the only way for them to have complete control over it
20.47.58 #       <TA> Paul's wife had a smile that would melt chocolate at 100 yards ... :)
20.48.22 #       <Seed> Well, I guess it would melt things inside of me :)
20.48.48 #       <Seed> not sure which things exactly :)
20.49.04 #       <TA> While he was on irc, she was whispering in his ear about how to answer some of the things. I think they make a great pair. They were like one person.
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20.49.27 #       <TA> another Texan joins the fray!!
20.49.53 #       <Seed> TA: I wouldn't go that far.. These things either last long or end one day with a big bang
20.49.58 #       <Seed> Hi Fredy
20.50.35 #       <DrJekyl> nite all
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20.50.43 #       <Fredy> Nite nite termite
20.51.27 #       <Fredy> It's a dog's world
20.52.43 #       <TA> Seed: 26 years and climbing here.
20.53.00 #       <Seed> TA: I'm happy for you
20.53.25 #       <TA> Seed: Don't be ... :)
20.53.32 #       <Seed> I'm being polite
20.53.34 #       <TA> It was an accident that we even get along.
20.53.56 #       <Seed> Well, those accidents get you on the right track sometimes :)
20.54.07 #       <TA> She is completely computer illiterate, hates the things. Thinks we are all idiots for spending so much time on them.
20.54.29 #       <Seed> find a way to make her hate it less :)
20.54.39 #       <TA> She talks on the phone just as much as I play on the computer though.  :)
20.54.51 #       <Seed> worked for me..  not with a partner to life, but with friends.. and family
20.55.03 #       <TA> Seed: Well, Holger helped with that some. She can now do Voyager and IRC.
20.55.25 #       <Seed> I hardly play.. although I did break my SpellTris highscore yesterday :)
20.55.32 #       <TruKr> TA: My wife has her own computer, a PC thingy for playing games
20.55.50 #       <TA> She double clicks the Miami icon and it auto dials in and brings up Voyager for her. If she wants irc, (seldom) she can do that.
20.55.54 #       <Seed> Give a PC to a wife.. you are cruel :)
20.56.19 #       <Seed> TA: so she doesn't hate it THAT much after all :)
20.56.48 #       <TA> Seed: She ONLY gets on it for Beanie Baby's and when I am at an amiga show so she can irc in and chat with me.
20.57.03 #       <TruKr> SHE picked it, so she could play Kings Quest, DN3D ect
20.57.50 #       <Seed> I can't go to Amiga shows. And no wife here :)
20.58.06 #       <Seed> Not many Amiga users here, as a matter of fact :)
20.58.35 #       <TruKr> We have TWO Amiga BBSs here :)
20.59.05 #       <TruKr> and BOTH the SysOps are on the chanel now :)
20.59.15 #       <Seed> you are lucky
20.59.48 #       <TA> Fredy: Did you get the channel note about the Java conf Monday?
21.00.09 #       <Fredy> Yep
21.00.17 #       <TA> OK, just making sure it works.
21.00.33 #       <Ashke> 'cept one of the Sysop's is asleep. :)
21.00.59 #       <TruKr> Ya, wake up Ashke!
21.01.15 #       <Seed> Any good BBSs on telnet that you know?
21.01.28 #       <TruKr> right now mine is
21.01.49 #       <Seed> and it is....?
21.02.10 #       <TruKr> 209.197.193.122
21.02.25 #       <TruKr> Trucker's Place BBS, Fort Worth Texas :)
21.02.35 #       <TA> well, guys, gotta run, speaking of wives ... 
21.02.56 #       <Seed> Bye TA!
21.03.01 #       <TruKr> Another fine CNet Amiga Pro BBS stystem
21.03.06 #       <Seed> Sweet dreams
21.03.09 #       <TruKr> Bye
21.03.10 #       <TA> cya
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21.03.33 #       <Seed> TruKr: Can you tell what Telnet client a user logs in with?
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21.04.21 #       <TruKr> Duno, I used AmTelnet once, but my BBS has one built in, I only use that now
21.04.58 #       <Seed> No.. I meant "can YOU tell what I use when I try to get into your system?"
21.05.39 #       <TruKr> duno, why?
21.05.45 #       <Seed> is it on port 23, BTW?
21.05.58 #       <TruKr> I can tell where, and 23 yes
21.06.12 #       <Seed> "Error 61 - Connection refused"
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21.07.34 #       <TruKr> 209.197.193.181 try that
21.08.25 #       <TruKr> also port 23
21.10.06 #       <TruKr> Some one kick Trucker, he ain't there no more
21.10.29 #       <Seed> It looks nice so far
21.11.06 #       <TruKr> Oh goodie, a new user!
21.11.18 #       <Seed> Yeah! I wonder who it is :)
21.11.47 #       <TruKr> I some times have ppl telnet in and the use CNet IRC
21.12.03 #       <Seed> It's a nice option
21.12.12 #       <Seed> for those who can't get on the net for some reason
21.12.45 #       <TruKr> Kick Trucker so he can get in!
21.13.21 Kick    (#Team*Amiga Trucker :Way to go :)) by Seed!~Ben@p50.sharon2.actcom.co.il
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21.15.08 #       <Seed> What's there on your BBS anyway? :)
21.16.00 #       <TruKr> ? BBS stuff, message bases, on line games, files, IRC, FTP, TelNet
21.16.36 #       <TruKr> Oh NOOooo, new user went away!
21.17.35 #       <Seed> New user is half-asleep.. presses Esc buttons at wrong time :)
21.20.12 #       <TruKr> K, SysOp person was afraid new user hated BBS already
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21.25.57 #       <TruKr> :)
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21.30.08 #       <TruKr> Ah, NOW I can pole Ashke's system for mesg packets :)
21.30.52 #       <TruKr> Hmmm, he must still be online
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