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> CONFIRM I-AMIGA


  Before everybody sends CONFIRMs to LIST, let it be known that
that confirmation request sent to list was due to badly done peering
which didn't cause hickups before...

  Basically name of peered list MUST BE EXACTLY 'Peer Distribution List'
but it was '"Peer Distribution List"'  in I-AMIGA@UTARLVM1 against
I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.  Those "real names" aren't exactly same, and thus otherwise
working peer was considered to be some odd subscriber...

  It is being considered that whole I-AMIGA should be dragged to single
site and other peers to be removed entirely.
With 'modern' LISTSERV DIST2 method it uses whole network of LISTSERVs
to make nearly optimal distribution of mails in every case. To minimize
maintance headaches this consentration would be best for me.
(Multiple peers is relict from times before DIST2 method which came into
 LISTSERVs around -88)

  Selecting that site isn't done yet.


        /Matti Aarnio <mea@mea.utu.fi> OH1MQK

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Please read your renewal form before just blindly replying to it.  Send a
message containing "confirm i-amiga" to LISTSERV@RUTVM1 (or whichever peer
you are connected to).  Please do not send this notice to I-AMIGA@RUTVM1!
No one will be any better off for it.
        Charlie Fineberg                  BITNET: FINEBERG@WUMS
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

     I don't know of any redistribution lists for comp.sys.amiga on Bitnet (let
me know if one exists please, though), but the comp.sys.amiga.tech and
comp.sys.amiga.hardware new lists are redistributed through LISTSERV@DHURZ1
(that a one not an 'l').
     If you are interested, a subscribe command to the listserv.  The two lists
are called CSAMIGA and AMIGAHAR.  Be warned, the discussions are often very
technical especially on .tech [Sort of makes sense doesn't it 8-)], and you
will get a LOT, repeat LOT of mail.  I'm currently receiving somewhere around
35-40 pieces of mail daily just from these two lists.  There's probably no
better source for Amy info though especially on programming and hardware
problems unless you have a direct phone line to Dave Haynie who happens to post
quite a bit to the newsgroups.

BCNU,

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>From David Blezard (d_blezard):
>me know if one exists please, though), but the comp.sys.amiga.tech and
>comp.sys.amiga.hardware new lists are redistributed through LISTSERV@DHURZ1
>kthat a one not an 'l').

  Can you give me more information on the address used to connect to this
site?  I have been tring various locations and none know of DHURZ1.

 Thanks,

Will Dieterich
wdieteri@wrdis01.af.mil
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Comment: forwarded by CRNLNS/FMAIL v2.0
Comment: REPLY may not work.
Comment: Network-Source:  _LNS62::DSR (HEPnet/SPAN)
Comment: Originally-From: DSR          "Dan Riley"
Comment: Originally-To:   JNET%"i-amiga@ubvm"

>There is a version of X Windows for the Amiga by a company named GfxBase,
>I don't know anything more except that it requires an Ethernet conncection.

GfxBase is owned and operated by Dale Luck, one of the longtime Amiga
software guys.  It will run X11 locally, since you can run both the
server and clients on an Amiga  (thanks to multitasking).  GfxBase sells
the AmeriStar (soon to be re-released by Commodore) EtherNet card, and
I believe Dale has been working with the TSSNet(?) guys to get Amiga X11
working with their implementation of DECnet, so you can run X11 with DECnet
as the transport layer using a serial line or a supported Ethernet card.

-Dan Riley (dsr@crnlns)
-Wilson Lab, Cornell University
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Hello from SIngapore,

In reply to the LISTSERV address for com.sys amiga.hardware and com.sys.amiga.
tech. is not DHURZ1 as mentioned here.  I manage to subscribe to both by sendin
g the SUBscribtion message to LISTSERV@DHDURZ1 (Please not that there is an ext
ra D between H and U). Name of Discussion group in Listserv is CSAMIGA for the
com.sys.amiga.tech and AMIGAHAR for the com.sys.amiga.hardware.
Regards,  Suthipunha, School of Architecture , National University of Singapore
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     As I heard last week from our local dealer and user's group president,
the new version of AMax will have harddrive support with C= and GVP
controllers.  Currently, I believe that there's a way to do it with TrumpCard,
but I'm not completely sure on that (Anyone, anyone...?).  I don't know whether
the new AMax will have any other new features like Mac sound support, but they
had better have made it work with 2.0 and the new chip set!
    As to when it will be out, the best I can say is soon.  My guess is,
though, that it will appear some time around when the A3000 starts to ship or
shortly there after.

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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

> >There is a version of X Windows for the Amiga by a company named GfxBase,
> >I don't know anything more except that it requires an Ethernet conncection.
>
> GfxBase is owned and operated by Dale Luck, one of the longtime Amiga
> software guys.  It will run X11 locally, since you can run both the
> server and clients on an Amiga  (thanks to multitasking).  GfxBase sells
> the AmeriStar (soon to be re-released by Commodore) EtherNet card, and
> I believe Dale has been working with the TSSNet(?) guys to get Amiga X11
> working with their implementation of DECnet, so you can run X11 with DECnet
> as the transport layer using a serial line or a supported Ethernet card.

I think there was a distribution of X11 on Usenet a little while ago, but I
missed it for some reason; I can't remember why. Does anyone know where I can
FTP this thingie from ?  For some reason I can not FTP from uunet, so that's no
use (for me, that is).

> -Dan Riley (dsr@crnlns)
> -Wilson Lab, Cornell University

-- Rob

        Robert Belleman, co-system-manager
                         the Netherlands Cancer Institute Amsterdam.
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Hi guys, i need to know which keymap or what i can do to configure the
amiga keyboard exactly as an ibm pc or ps, like when i press home,
i get home and not number 7, i need this to connect correctly to my
host on campus via mode, or any term program for ibm 3270 tha can configure
the keys, i tried aftterm and ami3270, which work fine but return an undifined
keyboard sequence.
MARV
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Hi, soory to bother you again, but i need a favor.
I already downloaded Ami3270 and aftterm and i do connect to my host
in school but they only configured it to run on a ps with ftterm,
the problem is the CLEAR key is configured as home key on the ps, but
when i put ctfl c in aftterm it gives me a error that the key sequence
does not exist, how can i alter a program or is there a program
to make the amiga keyboard exactly as the ps or a term prog to configure
keys. I emulate ibm and communicate but is darn to slow.
PLEASE HELP AND MAIL PERSONALLY PLEASE. ANY ANSWER WILL BE APPRECIATED and
is someone has the same problem and i get it solved ill post it.
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The listserv is at DHDURZ1, an EARN/BITNET node.

Konrad Neuwirth
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

>     I don't know of any redistribution lists for comp.sys.amiga on Bitnet (let
>me know if one exists please, though), but the comp.sys.amiga.tech and
>comp.sys.amiga.hardware new lists are redistributed through LISTSERV@DHURZ1
>(that a one not an 'l').

     The typo struck again.  The listserv is located at DHDURZ1.
                                                          ^
I'm sure that will work a lot better.                     ^
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My Sincere Appologies,                                    ^
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From:         "Dr. Frank Kvasnik" <XUUM25@PRIME-A.CENTRAL-SERVICES.UMIST.AC.UK>
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

Not a very technical question but still it's got me stuck so

I've downloaded a few file from FINTUVM and UUDECODEd and ZOOd them Ok. the
problem occurs when I try to run them eg. the omega version on Fred Fish
disk 320 has an icon 'Click me to run' which if I click flashs up an
error message about 'c/Xicon' which I assume means it can't find Xicon.
But I've got Xicon and MuchMore in my c directory - the MuchMore because
similar problems arise when I click on the readme files associated with
these programs.
In a similar vein can anyone direct me to information on how these '.info'
files work.
Also does anyone have the info on any Fred Fish disk from 340 onwards?

Thanks for any help
Steve C.
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I've been told that AMIGA-D is a list that echos comp.sys.amiga.  You can
subscribe by sending the usual message to LISTSERV@FINTUVM.BITNET.

Tom
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From:         "Olaf Marx +49 (0)541 75624" <OMARX@DOSUNI1>
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Hello everybody,
CSAMIGA can be subscribed from DHDURZ1 (there was just a 'D' missing !).
So send your subscribtion command to LISTSERV@DHDURZ1. (The node is in
Heidelberg,FRG).

Olaf
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From:         "Will Dieterich;SCC;" <wdieteri@WRDIS01.AF.MIL>
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

  I am having trouble transfering files from a FTP network, and then having
them work.
  I am currently geting the files in an arc, or zoo format, from the FTP
connection to the UNIX system that I am on.  I then transfer them to my Amiga
by use of kermit.
The problem is that the files I get back to the Amiga are all garbage.  This
has happened with all of the files I have downloaded.  Is there some program
I sould be running on the UNIX system to fix them, ( I do have FTP set for
type binary)?  Or could it be that all the files I have received have been
corrupted.  The error is with the CRC.
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From:         SUTTON@BRANDEIS
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

First of all, do you mean Xicon or IconX?  Second, look at the filename in
your error message.  It's trying to find a directory off the current
directory call "c" and a file called "Xicon".  If such a thing doesn't
exist (and I'm assuming that it doesn't), you need to select the icon and
Info from the first Workbench menu.  You'll then get the Info requestor for
that icon.  Under "Default Tool", type something like "C:Xicon" (or
"C:IconX") --- that is, the path and file of the program that it's trying
to find.  This is the default program that's run when a project is started
up (double clicked).

Not a bad question... It's not entirely obvious how that stuff works.  On
the Mac, that kind of book-keeping is done for you automatically --- of
course, when you're that insulated from the workings of the machine, you
give up a lot in flexibility.

SUTTON@BRANDEIS.BITNET
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To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>


Thanks to all those people who sent me mail on the problem I had with
Xicon and MuchMore. I tried your suggestions and its worked fine.

Steve C.

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From:         James Miller <JMILLER@SCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Help on Caligari and other Raytracers!!
To:           Espen Outtasight Lyngaas <EDB88002@NOBIVM.BITNET>

     I have been writing a raytracer and some other graphic
utilities to create photorealistic images. I would like to
import some of the scene files from other packages to test my
algorithms. I was wondering if anyone out there has access to
the the format of the scene and object description files for
Caligari.  Unfortunately, with a mere college student budget,
I don't have the package, but have to pick up my images from
a rich friend!!  I am planning to write a few conversion
utilities to convert between Caligari and some of the more
popular ( and cheaper!!  ) raytracing packages out there,
such as Sculpt 3d, TurboSilver, and Opticks for the public
(shareware) domain. Any information (or source code) for this
format or any other format would be greatly appreciated!!
Thank you!!

        Please respond to one of the addresses below, as my
school no longer has a subscription to this list.

                                             Jim Miller

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