-= Fruitie Digest: AWP edition #3 =- INTRO: It's a beauty. People are becoming more and more willing to part with their info. This is good news, and good karma (?). This issue has a few more tips, a couple more machine guides (I love receiving these) and some more feedback on past tips. I figured it would be best to reorder the stuff into the order new info, corrected info, requested info. Maybe once you've read all the new and updated information, you'll feel more inclined to mail me some of your own. :-) Thanks this month go to Richard Brittan, Barry Edgar, Chris Mappley and Chris Mcdonnell, Chris Wren, and Steve B (apologies if I left out anyone's name) CONTENTS:- Intro New Stuff Respins Hyper Viper Money Madness Ring My Bell & Riverboat Gambler Big Banker Money Money Money Feedback Sinbad Casino Crazy Requests Further Reading New Stuff: // Respins // > From: Chris Wren > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:02:43 GMT > > For your information, on most of the newer JPM machines when you get a > bonus feature if it is a respin, you can hold the '?' and stop it > respinning and you get another bonus. You can also hold the other > symbols if they are useful ie have numbers on them. Personally I didn't know this till Chris told me. Then, all of a sudden I get three people tell me at once (see Big Banker, Money Money Money, and the newly revised Casino Crazy guide!) // Hyper Viper // > From: Christopher McDonnell > Date: 7 Nov 1996 11:05:59 -0000 > > On Hyper Viper, if you get 2 symbols on the winline and one just above > you can hold all 3 and you are awarded with a nudge to give you a > feature. This works every time, but only with the symbols nowt else! > This also works on similar machines such as Hotrod and Viva Las Vegas > 6, but this is only when the reels flash. If only I had a Hyper Viper to try this on... Can anyone name the types of machines this will work on? // Money Madness // > From Richard Brittan Wed Nov 6 13:12 GMT 1996 > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:52:47 +0000 > On money madness, I know that if you nudge mixed 7s in with a goldie in > the middle(#4), hold them all and then cancel, it will drop a jackpot > in. BUT not if you get the mixed 7s with goldie any other way. > > Other than that, I see a bloke use #30-40 before and then it stil > stuffs me If anyone knows anymore about this machine please mail me... // Ring My Bell & Riverboat Gambler // > From Richard Brttan (again :) > I get stuffed on these as well. > If you cancel the nudge on these machines the nudge can hold eg If 1 > nudge is cancelled then 2 nudges come next, you can then cancel 2 for > 4, and 4 for 8. It is worth doing as if the nudges aren't holding it > generally means the machine isn't very due. However if it gives you 2 > nudges straight off you can't cancel them. Both of these machines > operate on hoppers and not tubes...I've yet to see them in a pub. > > Also if you have 3 mixed symbols on the line (with no more than one > feature thingie in view) hold them all and you will always get a nudge, > which of course you can then cancel it. // Riverboat Gambler // > If you get #5, collect it and it often holds, after about 2 holds > gamble for JP as it almost always goes...I mean it. And now for something completely different... (cliche kid) A guide to Big Banker! // BEGIN -------------------------------------------- Big Banker ----// Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:02:46 +0000 From: Chris Mappley Here's my compiled hints for The Big Banker, there's probably more, but I've got to finish sometime, so here goes...... Basic one this, but when you get four straight in to take you to bonus, remember that if you hit respin, although the lights don't flash, you can still hold the reels. Therefore, hold the numbers and you get to, at worst, one nudge. If you get respin without having enough numbers on the reels, you could try to hold pairs of fruit/symbols this way, but so far this has not proved 'fruitful' for me. Obviously, and everyone knows this, on the bonus, if you get skill nudge, it goes all the way to 16 nudges first time. When you get the 'hidden' feature, there's three ways of stopping the lights. Firstly, if it's spinning around in a non-skill type way, as far as I can tell it stops randomly. Then, there's the continuous spinner which is very similar, but of course it's a skill chance, so choose wisely, oh, incidentally this is quite a rare beast, so don't expect to see it much. Lastly, there's the more common 'random' stop, which flashes all around the wheel. This can be slowed down by holding the cancel button. This is still not that easy to stop, but on the right hand side on the machine (at approx. 3 O'clock), there's Win spins, Skill nudge and Skill Fruit, as these are all pretty good and there together is reasonably easy to hit one of them. If you're feeling bold, you could go for Mega Nudge or my favourite Reel 'em in, or whatever it's called, anyway, it's opposite the red 7 at the bottom. This feature can go ridiculously fast, which gives you no chance, but most of the time, it's slow enough to bring in the jackpots. You can even afford to miss the jackpots, as long as you stop the jackpot symbol either just above the win line or one below. The machine is kind enough to nudge the win up or down for you, which is quite handy. As for Skill Fruit and Skill nudges, not only do they go up to the top first time, actually, I got skill fruit recently, and I don't think it did, but I had been drinking, anyway, but if you hold down the cancel button, these skill chances both slow down dramatically. Look, basically, the cancel button's the dog bollocks. I can't guarantee this one, but 'a bloke in a pub' told me it, so it must be true ;). On Skill nudge (via the features, I'm not sure if this the same as when you get it from the bonus), if the rewards only six English pounds or less, apparently if you nudge for the jackpot, obviously not get it, the nudges repeat. I cocked this up slightly, I went for the jackie, didn't really know what I was doing, brought in nothing, and what actually happened was the 'hidden features' repeated and I got win spins I think I actually may need help myself on this one. If the machines being a 'rascal', avoid gambling higher or lower on a three from six pounds to the tenner, I know the aim of the game is the Jackie Collins, but I have lost this too many times now, and it its a six pound repeater after all. Back to some more basic stuff, when a three comes in and it holds, don't bother holding it, as that way you definitely avoid the bonus on four, this is just my opinion of course. Right, we all know that if it feature holds on six or seven three times, on the third feature hold a number will comes in to take you up to nudges. Now, here's a little tip, should it feature hold for the third time and you get the option to hold, you can still hold one of the reels, with a symbol you need for the 'hidden' feature above the win line, (Oh, I held two once and it didn't work), and on one of the other two reels a number will still come in, taking you to nudges, at least one. This can be very useful to bring the feature in. I hope that makes sense. Another obvious one, but to increase your prize via nudges, let's say you've already got 2.40 on nudges, and you've got a queen, if you collect this, you'll have a crap number when it comes to the case prizes, what I would do is to go lower on the queen (Hopefully the king won't come it, sadly, it has in the past) on the nudges side and you should get better number on the cash side. Some-one pointed out to me that on each reel, the blue sevens are four nudges away from the red sevens and visa versa. The only stops you having to bend over to look up the reels, but that's part of the fun. // END ---------------------------------------------- Big Banker ----// Nicely. If anyone would like to redescribe the skill-nudge tip about going for the jackpot, I'll re-edit it and put it in a bigbanker.txt file along with any other corrections & additions! Next up, a Money Money Money guide from Barry Edgar. This machine seems great to play, lots of bright things, lots of noises and features and holds and and and... It's so good you might even enjoy losing your shirt. But, you won't have to if you know how to play... // BEGIN ------------------------------------- Money Money Money ----// Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 17:22:46 GMT From: Barry Edgar Here is my guide to Maygay's new #10 Money, Money, Money game. The Cost ======== Playing this game can be very expensive, you either win a lot or lose a lot. Therefore, play this only if (1) There's #10 in the cashpot (2) It sounds full when you insert your #1 (3) You have a big pocket full of #1 coins and are prepared to play them all The Cashpot =========== Winning the cashpot is the best thing you can do. I have had it once - 2 repeats; my mate has had it once - 3 repeats; I was talking to this guy in the pub, he has had it once with 2 repeats. It is not possible to nudge onto 3 cashpots, I could see them and gambled on a risky 6 to get them. I won the gamble and the bastard only offered 3 cherries, there is no manual nudge. So you need to get 3 holds on 2 cashpots to get the 3rd (or be very lucky). The Features ============ Most of the features are crap but have the possibility of being good - this really is sneaky. For example "Evens Favourite" usually gives you an even number on the 1st spin (and pays 10p * the number) so could keep giving you evens but usually gives you odd on the 2nd spin. 90% of the time these features are crap. There are 3 good features though:- Heavens Above - choose one of the fruits above the winline, if you don't choose a 7 or a boxed symbol you can get 2,3 or 4 quid (and believe me on this machine this is a good prize!) Twister - It's easy to time this well and get a high amount of nudges or cash Lucky For Some - it will be lucky for you if you know to press CANCEL cause you will get #10 repeat (I have never got the repeat though) The Bar Codes ============= Maygay have stolen this idea from BellFruit. If you get triplebar doublebar singlebar you get a hidden feature - by pressing any hold button it immediately gives you the feature. The first time I pressed HOLD button 1 - this gave me a crap feature; the 2nd time I pressed Exchange+Hold1 - this game me the same crap feature; the 3rd time I pressed hold3 - this gave me a crap feature! There must be some technique to get a good feature but I don't yet know it. [hold2 is also pretty crap :) - ash] The Bonus ========= All the bonuses are rubbish as well! If you get skill bonus press and release CANCEL and you will be able to choose which useless bonus you get! If you get RESPIN on the BONUS you can hold symbols (if you are quick) but not if there are numbers which will give you a win! Good Luck, let me know if you find out any more on this (especially the Bar Codes - I think this is a feature that will be appearing in future Maygay games as well) Regards, Barry Edgar. // END --------------------------------------- Money Money Money ----// A note to the curious: Yes, it does matter which order the bars come in. You won't get the hidden feature for triple-single-double. And, though it's a 'hidden' feature, it's pretty obvious by the flashing fairy dust/stars on the left-hand-side of the fruitie. FEEDBACK: // Sinbad // In The second digest, Ian Coggins said he thought the three holds in a row on the Sinbad machine didn't end in a win. Well, here's a man who thinks it does: > From: Richard Brittan > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:36:22 +0000 > > Sinbad has held 3 times for me on blue sevens for JP gamble. Well worth quoting I'm sure you'll agree...? // Casino Crazy // Of course, that wasn't the only thing RB had to say. He had a lot of corrections to make to the Casino Crazy guide (by Neil Drinkall) which I have ammended and is available to you from... http://www.aston.ac.uk/~searlea/casinocrazy.txt The ammended copy also has a quality tip from a mate of Neil's, Steve B <104706.3252@compuserve.com> (what's the B stand for?). Which I'll quote here so nice wise people can tell me which other machines it works on ;-) Fruit-Climb feature: > The fruits work on the 'on/off pattern'. This means you can get the > jackpot every time! Just hit the button when the first fruit is on, > then on the next when the light goes out, just repeat this and your > away!! I guess that works on Cash Climb on some fruities...? REQUESTS: // Money Money Money // Any additions to the guide would be good, and here's a question of my own (incase you think I never play :) There's a feature called Crazy Cash where you stop the number reel (which spins stupidly fast), and you then get M * the number in cash. It's easy to stop on 10, 11 or 12 cos they're fat numbers, so you can get into the rhythmn of them spinning past. I was stopping on 12 regularly, and getting a choice of 20, 40, 60 or 80p * 12 - which always ended up being 20p (it's probably not a choice at all:). When I stopped it on 1, I got 2.20 * 1... So, what's the best number to stop it on? 12 * 80p is 9.60, which is nice, but it's not jackpot value. Do you get jackie for stopping it on 10? (* 1.00, obviously) I'd have tried it myself, but didn't have time to, and hadn't thought of it while I was still playing anyway :( // Match of The Day // > Date: 7 Nov 1996 11:05:59 -0000 > From: Christopher McDonnell > I was shocked the other day when I was playing a 10 pounds Match Of > The Day machine to find that spinning holds after a nudge does not > work. Can you suggest a way to make the win fall in? Anyone? // Riverboat Gambler // // Money Madness // // Ring My Bell // // Tutti Fruttie, or Tooty Frooty or whatever // Any tips at all... and, while we're at it, tips for any other fruities // Cluedo Super Sleuth // > Date: today > From: me > Our local's got CSS in it, and the first time I played it, I noticed > a 'weird' noise twice. Both times I heard it I had holds with one > Suspect (or feature symbol, if you like) on reel 3 (rhs), and both > times I span all reels. Both times, three suspects dropped straight > in, taking me to the feature board. I can't work out whether the > feature dropped in because of the suspect on the winline, or because it > was on reel 3, or because of the noise. The sound coincided with me > putting a quid in the machine both times, and the second time it was > well after receiving the holds. (obviously, it's a different sound to > the sound the fruitie makes when you put in a coin anyway). Anyone know of any other machines that have this 'quirk'? FURTHER READING: Past digests are continually hanging around at: http://www.aston.ac.uk/~searlea/fd1.txt http://www.aston.ac.uk/~searlea/fd2.txt http://www.aston.ac.uk/~searlea/fd3.txt (but that's this one...you won't need that ;) and the corrected Casino Crazy guide is at http://www.aston.ac.uk/~searlea/casinocrazy.txt If you happen to be going near Clubs and Casinos, you'll probably want a hand with the slightly LARGER jackpot fruities. You wouldn't say no to 250 quid would you? Well, I haven't got any info on those, but I know a man who has (and you probably do too): Check out Chris Smedley's web pages at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/the_president/homepage.htm for info on his big guide to Club Fruitties. I hear a lot of people saying they haven't got 150 quid to play on club machines... Remember, the idea isn't to _lose_ your money ;-) FINALLY: If you've got any corrections, tips, expert knowledge, or you've done, or are going to do, a machine breakdown please send them to me by replying to this email. (Writing a guide would help to sort things out in your own mind too...) Until next time (probably November 25-29th by current performance ;) That's all, Ash Searle - searlea@aston.ac.uk