TITLE:A reaction to an extremely serious discussion in ROM PALETTE:0223 067a 0799 09a7 3 WOMEN, SPREAD YOUR LEGS - I'M COMMING So, 2PEARL 1said some nasty things about women in the scene? Oh, dear! Poor ladies around... Yes, 2NINA/RUBBERDUX1, we men are sooo bad and stubborn, ain't we? We want the women back to the kitchen, eh? To me the ideal women has three knobs on her forehead: 3"Cooking", "Fucking" and "Off". 1That's enough. Why do you say, men don't want to realize that the nineties? We are just living in and we are having pretty much of fun. Over the seventies with all those damned "feminists" - the nineties bring us the rebellious "girlies". Well, we all know what is hard to hunt gives the most satisfaction in the end. This is why we let women think they have a dominating role. It's an interesting game. Nothing more. Did you really believe the girlie-hype was an invention of women? Yes, every human must have equal right. With the stress on hu3"MAN"1. Hey, in the end it's also wo"MAN" isn't it? Don't get me wrong, girlies out there: I totally agree with you about that article of PEARL's. He is wrong. Women would never ever destroy the scene when floating into it in huge figures - since when may women be a danger for male domaines? If girlies might get into "big" groups for widening their legs I can't tell. It's a matter of what capabilities the males are. Who says that girls may set up rules for the game? Me not. You ask 2"us" 1(Ah, women - they really can only see two sides "we" and "them" - how could they ever become individuals with a free mind like they demand?) to treat you like any other? Well, you ask and therefore it's a question and questions may be neglected, comprendre? 3How am I supposed to take a woman serious that is in a group with a name that 3reminds me strongly of some toys from the sexshop? Now, over to you 2KATE/SPECTRA1: I can also only agree with you. Who said that having a girl inside ones group means that the group is better having it? Maybe a little more meet-the-eye (depends on the girl), but else? Which quality the woman could have increased? Who hampers you, little Kate, to shout out your opinion standing on your own? 2Why do you need "sisters"? 1Don't you know how to shout, babe? It's that noice you certainly do when a man does something that causes seat-wetting to you (if this wasn't worth 50 bucks for the macho-cass, I don't know what would be). Let me get serious again: Tell me, why do you need so many girls, then? Is it because you don't dare to on your own? Or do you somebody to justify your opinion? Let me tell you what I pitty you... and please, don't use always "we" and "them". You write your sister 2ORANGE 1was offered some gfx to be released under her name, but the mate didn't sent anything? Oh, I can understand... I get the picture... It's chauvinistic to offer this to a girl. It's nasty not deliver what was offered. Yet, it definately is ok to accept this afront and become "famous" for someone elses work? 3That's what I call female logic... Let me get over to you, 2CHRISTINE DE LA QUEEN 1- the only woman in the scene about which I am sure that she actually is a girl/woman. (Hey, MOP was it you writing these before-commented outcries from scenesses?) Oh, nice! I just found the female form of Scener: Sceness. Please, note that done, Macno! First of all, hat off for you CHRISSIE. Nice lamentment you start there - I could have done it more subtile, but for a woman this was outstanding. Very yellow - but not much of gawpment, isn't it? No, women ain't monsters, you are right. Without girls this world would be less complicated and exhausting but also a little more boring. You see, I really like to see girls in the scene. Always a nice topic for fillers... One answer for you: Women didn't become monsters for some sceners when they started to produce/release. Monsters are somthing threatening - yet all I can see are neat attempts in female releases, but definately no "danger" for the male position. Especially on the article sector I haven't found anything worth a read. Maybe except for a couple of your writings, my dear colleague. Hey, MOP! Nice idea, but don't you think it's really nasty to show what you really think about her painting in such a penetrating way? I mean excusing her style by saying: 2"It's different to what RA does." 1That's what I call cynic! 2"The most talented girl artist in the scene"1? You are wicked, mate! There are no other girl artists, so she has to be the best. Good shot, mate, you get a beer from me for that point. CHRISTINE, it seems you should be sure on what side someone stands before begging for his help. No one has - by the way - ever doubted that girls can write, paint or whatever. It's just that the quality isn't so high in the end... 3"Spread your legs and you are in." That's really unrealistic! It must be: 3"Spread your legs and I am in (you)." 2Would a girl spread her legs for a ugly pimpled dude to achieve something? 3Yes1, as far as I am concerned. I have often enough watched how girls use their full body to get a drink from a male - why shouldn't she spread her legs then? When she's routinised enough, she may have the affair finished within 10 minutes. What do these 10 minutes mean? If you don't do this, that's a plus point for you as it shows character. Many girls I came to know lack character. Much too many. Well, why do you think, women are refused to get to job? They are too expensive. Getting them trained for the job takes long and is costy (for my own job it is 2100000,-DM 1per apprentice) shortly after (1-4 years), the most women get pregnant and stay at home. 100000,-DM blown in the wind. Why the heck should bosses be fond of getting women into their offices? 2"What is a girl with a 468DX4, 80mhz, double spin cd-rom drive, 28.8 modem and 2laser-printer?" 3- 1Unable to cope with an AMIGA? 3- 1Wasted money? 3- 1A robot? 3- 1Too poor to get a Pentium? 3- 1or simply: Pure fiction? CHRISTINE, one last point: The scene is a place which originally was a black hole. No laws, no morality except for when the single scener wants to have them involved. 3Why the heck should we think over and check our words for morality?