|2-Carnage |1-Must Be Stopped What they did: On the 8th of January 1996, members of Carnage locked Wade/Eltech, Wil$h/G0DS/SøC and Dooba/SøC out of mailboxes for EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION. These people, among others, commented that Carnage are one of the lamest UK groups due to their releasing of porno slideshows, CLI-based packdisks, games and having deals with PD companies, similar to that of NFA (one of the decidedly LEAST "scene" groups in the UK). This could spell the end of the UK place in the Euroscene if this continues. Already magazines are considering NFA to be the scene authority on cracking (anyone seen an NFA crack lately???), and people flicking through magazines are more likely to consider NFA's productions to be REAL scene products, and most importantly, people who are NEW to the scene are reading The Word and believing that that so-called magazine IS the UK scene. Let's stop this crap right now. If you want the UK scene to carry on as it is going, ignore the points below...otherwise DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! 1. If you mailswap with a member of Carnage, STOP! 2. If you are a member of Carnage, LEAVE! 3. If you are a sysop, BAN ALL Carnage ACCOUNTS! 4. If you are a normal sensible person, IGNORE Carnage! These steps are not rash. Carnage and groups like them are changing the UK scene into a hollow shell of what it once was. This is NOT a scene war. This is a turning point. Either the UK scene can carry on as it is and become devoid of parties, decent diskmags, talented scene members, or we can actively stop the flow of lameness, get some demos out, get some Euroscene recognition again and STOP MESSING ABOUT! Feel free to reply to this message Carnage. At least you can't lock me out of my text-editor :) PS: This message isn't to all in Carnage, I'm sure all decent members will realise that what their group has done is wrong and sort something else out! BL¡SS/GHD End