55 Chester Road, Poynton, Cheshire. Sk12 1qu WARNING. This letter contains dangerous words that can seriously damage your pride. :-) Letz kick azz Watcha! Were have I been then??? Well having done many,many shifts at christmas (pub) I managed to save-up for a Supra 2400 modem. WOW woz it kewl. I loved ringing round the bbs and talking to the Sysops (watcha Ciars). Trouble woz 2400 only sends/recieves data at 220CPS (aprox). Wot that last bit means is that 220 characters are sent/recieved every second. This runs to about 7mins for 100k. Now at local costs this aint bad. A disc can be transfered in 50mins (about £1). However I found that all the BIG boards for the Amiga where in far out places & besides the ELITE boards want only 9600 users & above. Luckily I called a PC board in my vicinity. I woz about to log off after I realized it woz for lame computers when god broke in. We got chatting & I found he had a 14.4 going for £290. I thought it over for about 3 weeks & decided to buy. I subscribed to Mercury (a must for modem users) and woz soon transfering data at 1700CPS (about 7mins for 1 disc!). My modem allowed me to meet many new kewl (& sad) people. It got me into a group & helped me out to my first copy party (Anarchy). But alas 3 months & 300quid later I realised this was too expensive for me. I sold my modem & gave up my co-sysop status (Hi Barbarian/Unknown Pleasures) & now I'm just another coder. But I gotta say this. Modems are the best things about computers. Its really brill getting in at 3am from a nite club & then calling your m8 down london. You get to know EVERYTHING happening on the scene AS it happens. Shame BT & Mercury spoilt my fun. There does exist methods to 'con' BT & Mercury that I wont go into. Wot I will say is that if youre a modem user dont even think about it. When I get a job after me A levels (uni?) I rekon another HST 14.4 (16.8 now aint it?) is a must. Paul, yo gorra modem then or you just into the lingo? ;-) Since I joined my group, Alliance I've done em a few menus (they release alot of dox) which I've sent to ACC. I hope you like em. I'm about to try a very new idea on the Amiga that has never been done before. I've been teaching a mate on the PC how to code & quite by accident he has discovered an amazing new scroller. The nearest to it is a very fancy vector bob. But it dont use vector bobs & is well fast compared to eg the sine scroller. I've also (I think) discovered a much faster routine to fill vectors than Dave Edwards. After my exams I'll try em both. 3 days ago I recieved a parcel from Mark containing ACC 22 & 23. The one thing that has stood out (not checked it all out) is the quality of the code. Especialy Paul Kents tutorial on 3D. Kewl! Shame the issue is let down by a twisted creep called Mike Cross. For those of you who dont know, Mike used all his power of intellect to write a very sophisticated letter full of positive criticisms. Actually thats b*******. Mike created a new area called "Creep of the week spot." He starts of by calling me an "unworthly little person." Boo hoo. Mike Cross dont like me. I'm going to change my whole life & beg his forgiveness. Well, actually, on second thoughts I'll tell him to stick his vindictive remarks up his fat . I noticed in your first paragraph that you where upset over me talking about footy in me letters (I think that woz the bare bones under those rather simple & spiteful words). Hmmmmmmm, guess wot? Your views are unimportant. There! Somebody had to say it, your written, personal opinions are nothing more than obnoxious insults aimed at people you are in someway jealous of. You are nothing more than a x-mas turkey. No ofense to Dave, but is it really necessary to write Dave "The King" Edwards (woz he the one you called king?) & may his assembler be forever virus free? Wot a stupidly absurd thing to write. I think Dave Edwards is a very good coder. But thats all he needs to here I think. By the way. I dont think your garbage is comparable to Daves letter. Dave has critisised me (& others) on a number of occasions in a mature & sensible way. He made positive critisisms & tried not to offend people. As a result I have cut the footy from me letters & 'tried' to label my code better. Your letter however is nothing more than petty minded abuse that you probably wrote in one of your tantrums or perhaps while your periods where particularly bad. Wot next? Are piracy. I own a legal copy of Devapc 2 & can prove it. Sorry if not being able to follow the RS codes has upset you. But lets not go into this "find the word on...." rubbish. As if I'm really gonna go round a m8s & find the answer JUST FOR YOU. Get real. If I didnt own a legal copy I wouldnt waste my time ringing somebody up for a pathetic character like you. But heres wot you can do if your life is really soo dull. Ring Hi-Soft and say:- "Has Leon Skeldon registered a copy of Devpac?" -Obviously anyone with half a brain would have thought of such an obvious task. Let me guess your reply "Being the sly little rat you are you probably bought a copy yesterday." Yes you really do sound that sad! Ask for the date then. Next! -Oh yeah. My m8s dad (a lawyer) reckons we can squeeze you for some money. Your wording OBVIOUSLY implies evidence beyond reasonable doubt & so you have made yourself liable for criminal prosecutions. But you're not worth it. & besides I'd have to look at your mug for a few hours. "Leons a naughty boy & he nicks other peoples code so I'm telling the teacher." Really? Whos code then??? I used mark's sine table, & Daves fill on the square so I could see wot the result would be like. But I take it you are implying that I nicked the 3D rotation routine? I wished you hadnt used the wording "IF I looked I could find one similair" Because (At the beggining of a sentence too) this sugests you havent looked & are just thinking "ooh, I didnt think Leon woz that good. I bet hes nicked it." Send in the routine thats the same as mine & we can all have a laugh. But remember. All the code does is work out a formula so wot am I supposed to do? Make long winded code like you just incase some pillock with nothing better to do says "ooooh I'm pretencious" ??????? Lets round up with a general summing up of Mike Cross. Hes been with ACC since the start & has only slagged off some of the people generous enough to contribute code. He started to show his true self by attacking Steve "my interrupt is better than yours" Marshall (I think it woz him that you slagged off with that crappy name). However being the hypocritical ------- that he is he comes back with Steve "Super" Marshall (A simple Steve your my hero is good enough ya know). He then graduated to entire disc mags (give him credit where credits due. Hes stupid enough to slag off anyone, not having the sense to realise he mite damage himself). I think CSM were the first. Mike thought the coders where good but begrudged the fact that they programmed for fun when he programmed for a life. Next Masterbeat (stupid wotsit nyms eh? ;-) ) started a debate with Mike about Stolen Data & good old Crossy turned it into an arguement. Mike basically said that Stolen Data were crap coz there tutorials werent very good! Wot a twat. Who cares? It woz fun to read. As an example to how ridiculous Mikes statement is I will take grapevine. In ish 8 there is a tutorial on 3D. It breifly details how to rotate & do hidden line. Now in ish 22 of ACC Paul Kent did a 3D tutorial that knocks the stuffing out of the one in grapevine. BUT does this mean Grapevine is crap? No. Grapevine is a general mag (like SD) & a very good one at that. It would be pointless to judge it (slag it) soley on the tutorials & would only go to prove that I woz as sad & worthless as Crossy babes. I think Mike then took a brake & just nipped in & out. He then comes into the includes debate & TELLS US EXACLTY WOT OUR OPINIONS SHOULD BE. I do wonder about you ya know. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG, its called an opinion (eg in my opinion you are a demented idiot who has nothing better to do than type nasty letters. But thats just my opnion). Mike then does alot of slagging in the background. Finally Mike comes back with one final letter where all his EMOTIONS (hate & fear) are lets loose. He decides to battle it out with Masterbeat again (even though MasterBeat is tired of Mikes stupid remarks & no longer gives a ----). He uses his "DECISIVE" points that Stolen Data have crap tutorials (already covered here) and that ONE reporter made a sick joke so the mag is crap & not worth reading! hehehehehehe, dead decisive. Ever thought that the guy that writes those tutorials could blow you away? He could beat the ---- out of your demos & so I find my self wondering if there is any jealousy here?? My mate Treebeard is also targeted (hey, any mate of Raistlins!) for his name. Mike forgets that we code for fun & that almost the entire Amiga scene uses handles (ZAPHOD!) & thinks we are all like him...S A D (I cant stress that word enough!!). The letter also picked on me (only slighlty). Stating that I oughtta grow & stuff. And I say......Woopie Ding Dong!! I rekon Mike oughtta take some time away from his computer & go in search of a life (an interesting one!) "Bloody grow-up" Lets remember "Who got ACC where it is." A group of enthusiasts that submitted code, letters and tutorials. You didnt do it alone Mike & if you were to disappear I doubt the mag would die. But if ya like...... I'm off now. Let me leave you with a little extract & a piccy of Mike "..If you compare yourself with others. You may become vain or bitter. For always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself..." So lets stop comparing ourselves & others & do wot we came to do. To learn & to have fun. '''''''''''''' | | | O O | <<-- Mike "I can take a JOKE" Cross | J | | | | ______ | <<-- a.k.a. MEGATWATT \ / \ / \ / | | <<< >>> . . . <<-- Leon "I'm a child" Skeldon ^ | Mikes Life |___| Ooh, didnt that get all personal then eh? Mikes gets personal with me & I get personal with him. I really dont think ACC is the place for these stupid squabbles & so if any more senseless letters are written about me don't expect to drag me down to your level! I'm off to wheel spin my car out of its parking space now to prove I'm ard. Then I'm of down the sewers to see my "mate" Mike. -Hes soooo good with the whips & chains! Raistlin.....(Oooh, I'm a worthless little child!!!) This letter is dedicated to Mike John Cross. May his soul rot in hell.