|2-RedBox Dangers By Signal (American Article) All real phreakers know that a redbox is a great tool, if used wisely. Redboxes can be used to make both local and LD calls. However, as we know, to make a local call, one must first dial '0' and then make up some excuse like 'excuse me operator, the 5 button on this payphone doesn't seem to be working.' The TSPS operator would ask you to deposit 25 cents and dial then dial the number for you. Normally you don't need an excuse to have the operator dial a number for you. But in recent years the operators have become 'smarter' and aware of the rat shack tone-dialer conversion. Nowadays if you ask the operator to dial a number for you, for no apparent reason, he/she will become suspicious almost immediately. Although they will place the call whether or not you give them a reason, the will be listening to you when you place the tones. Sometimes, I have discovered, that using a redbox to make local calls doesn't allways work, as I have had the operator inform me that the quarter was not registering and that I was using an electronic device. The operator then said that she was going to call security and to please wait on the line. I think you can guess what I did then. I have never had a problem dialing long distance though. This is probably because it is automated when it asks for your money. The main reason that the operator will suspect that you are using a redbox is if the tones generated are too loud, as this somehow impairs the TSPS's ability to detect the quarter tones. The quarter tones generated by the phone are usually much quieter than that of the red box. To get around this problem, hold a credit card, or piece of thin cardboard between the redbox and the mouthpiece. This should significantly reduce the loudness. Another reason for the operator knowing that you are using an 'electronic device' is that the speed of the tones produced by the redbox, often times do not match the speeds of the phone; the redbox tones are slightly, but noticably slower. There is no real solution to this type of problem, oh well, there are other phones out there.